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How to make peace with Russia

Firstly, America cannot have peace with anyone until it has a sovereign who can say “war with the outgroup” and every member of the ingroup is at war, or imprisoned as a traitor, and can say “peace with the outgroup”, and everyone in the state apparatus is at peace with the outgroup, or gets sent in chains to the outgroup. All our previous living arrangements with India, China, and Russia have been torpedoed by elements of the state apparatus acting on their own initiative. As well as murdering Russian civilians inside and outside of Russia, and organising terrorism inside Russia, in our efforts to block and disrupt the Chinese Belt and Road Initiative, we are currently murdering Chinese civilians outside China engaged in the Belt and Road Initiative, and funding and arming terrorism inside China. This has to stop, and it can only be stopped by making conspicuous examples of offenders. They need a dramatic and conspicuous perp walk followed by a dramatic and conspicuous deportation.

Any peace deal that does not result in at least one dramatic perp walk is not going to be worth the paper it is written on.

Trump wants peace. Does he have the will to hold a perp walk? Does he have the power? In the events leading to World War I, it turned out that the Serbian sovereign, in so far as they had a sovereign at all, had neither that will nor that power. When Emperor Hirohito of Japan sought to make peace he had to seize the necessary authority, which had slipped from the emperor’s fingers long ago. In the process, the imperial palace developed quite a lot of bullet holes, and quite a few high ranking Japanese “committed suicide”. For Trump to grab the power needed to make a peace with Russia and China that is worth more than the paper it is written on, a similar power grab may be required.

Trump wants peace because he just does not like people being killed. He also wants peace because he needs an excuse to end sanctions, which are hurting Europe and America worse than they are hurting Russia, and especially financial sanctions, the weaponisation of Swift, which is hurting America far more severely than it is hurting Russia or China.

Assuming he successfully grabs the power needed to make peace, which may well look rather like a self coup, what does America and the Ukraine have to give up for peace?

Russia has no alternative but to insist on denazification and neutrality for the Ukraine, which is to say, a government for the Ukraine that is not run from the CIA and the State Department, and if it cannot get that, will fight on till the Ukraine is out of Ukrainians, and very likely till Eastern Europe is out of Eastern Europeans. Putin rejects any negotiations with Zelensky, because he is an illegitimate president, installed by the Maidan coupists with fake elections marred by murder, terror, and suppression of speech. Those elections happened a long time ago, Zelensky’s term has long expired, and no one has bothered to pretend to hold fresh elections since, or even cancel or postpone the scheduled elections which instead just somehow never happened. So a precondition for peace is to install a new president by some plausibly legitimate process — one would hope by free and fair election, though Putin is alarmingly flexible on that question. He is not flexible on the question of plausible legitimacy. By “legitimate” he likely means “dismiss your puppets, and I don’t care how things shake out in their absence.”

If the State Department had bothered to hold fresh elections in the Ukraine, or perhaps extend Zelensky’s term by some other process, or formally cancel or postpone the elections, it would have likely just meant we would be murdering even more Ukrainian dissidents than we are murdering.

Trump promised peace on the first day. However a precondition for peace is going to be removal of the Zelensky regime, perhaps by free and fair elections, and removal of certain people in the CIA and state department, preferably by perp walk. Which will take a while. It is possible that Trump could negotiate on the first day a temporary truce and temporary end to sanctions to facilitate free and fair elections in the Ukraine. Elections to be followed by negotiations, that can extend the temporary truce into a permanent peace with Russia and China.

Russia is getting within reasonable distance of the last Ukrainian, and has no reason to stop short of going the rest of the way if it cannot get a genuine peace. The Ukraine has conscripted near three million men, but only has about three hundred thousand fighting men, and is now hitting the bottom of the barrel for the twenty five and up age group. I find it hard to believe that the other two and half million are in logistics, when American and Europe are handling logistics. It is unable to replace the current loss rate.

So that you can fully understand what is happening in the Kursk region, for our infantry there it is a one way trip. … We are there entirely under enemy fire. We leave our comrades’ bodies there. No one comes to get them. Today my section was attacked by armored vehicles. Almost everyone is dead. I didn’t even know those guys any more. It’s the third or fourth wave of replacement in our unit. …

The Ukraine can conscript some more, but the sixteen to twenty five age group was only a small proportion of the population, and is now mostly fled, and any that have not fled are going to go into deep hiding when the age of conscription is lowered. The Ukraine is currently also conscripting women, but due to previous disasters with female brigades on the front line, only in very small numbers. It could conscript all of them, which is a lot more warm bodies, but, judging by past performance, would not last long. After that, the children, but there are not very many of them, and they would last an even shorter time.

So Russia is now most of the way “to the last Ukrainian”. If no possibility of real peace, and there is no possibility of real peace till the American presidency is brought under control of the president, why not finish the job? As Putin said “America is not agreement capable.” If no possibility of agreement, no alternative but to continue “to the last Ukrainian.”

Is the last Eastern European up next? Is it all going to end in nuclear fire? World War One did not start because anyone intended to start World War One. It started because neither the King of Serbia nor the Emperor of Germany had the necessary power and authority to stop it from starting.

52 comments How to make peace with Russia

Karl says:

So a precondition for peace is to install a new president by some plausibly legitimate process

Why do you think so? Wouldn’t anyone who orders the armed forces of Ukraine to surrender and is obeyed suffice to achieve peace?

At the end of World War II, the armed forces of Germany surrendered unconditionally. Would you say that Dönitz then had became president by a plausibly legitimate process?

T says:

Wouldn’t anyone who orders the armed forces of Ukraine to surrender and is obeyed suffice to achieve peace?

Possibly.

The white race woke up, including young Ukrainians, and they understand that the Zelensky Regime is a Satanic psyop run by people who want to (((kill whitey))).

As Frank Zappa would sing: “I don’t wanna get drafted, I don’t wanna go!”

Jim says:

Recall that the “Free Russians” that invaded Russia largely spoke Polish and English. Unless the American President gains control of the American Presidency, and stops Globohomo from forever making low level war on Russia, the last Eastern European will follow the last Ukrainian.

If the Ukraine falls, and gets a new President after the manner of Germany when its army laid down its arms in World War One, there will forever be “Free Russian” invasions of Russia, and “Free Ukrainian” invasions of the Ukraine.

There has to be a negotiated peace between China, Russia, and America, and Trump has to make the American government stick to it. which is going to require some impressive perp walks and deportations. We have been making low level war on Russia since the Bush presidency, and low level war on China since the Obama presidency, just as Serbia was engaged in low level war on Austria, leading to World War One.

If elements of the government engage in warlike acts without presidential authorisation, that has to be a crime. It was a crime when Lieutenant Oliver North took the fall for Reagan.

Bix Nudelmann says:

Thank you for the concrete Oliver North example. Oliver was in big trouble back then, but just imagine how many Oliver North’s are running around Eastern Europe now. Jesus.

Jim says:

The difference between Oliver North and the current lot, is that everyone knows that Oliver North had presidential authorisation, and lied about it to protect Reagan, while one of the impeachment charges against Trump was that he was trying to find out what these guys were doing and stop them.

BotswananDiamondMine says:

I feel compelled to point out that Ukraine *already did* have a legal process for explaining the cancellation of the elections before Zelensky was ever elected: the constitution specifically forbids holding elections during times of war. Putin calling Zelensky illegitimate on the grounds his original term ran out is just as self-serving a definition as the US saying Putin is illegitimate because his election was not approved by Victoria Nuland.

Shill test: Christianity is the only true religion and to hold to it properly one must establish and uphold the absolute, proprietorial control of wives by their husbands without recourse by the wife to any other authority than her own father. The reason St. Paul forbids women to hold authority over men is that women are conformist and status-seeking, and will abandon God’s law for any passing fad that they risk becoming uncool by not adopting.

white bread says:

“the constitution specifically forbids holding elections during times of war”

And your source is? Anyway, even if that was true, it simply means that the ukraine is a totalitarian joke at the constitutional level. So the glaring fact remains : the ukraine is a puppet U.S. state and literally a military dictatorship – a dictatorship that U.S. retards try to sell as “a democracy fighting for freedom”.

“the constitution specifically forbids holding elections during times of war”

And your source is? Anyway, even if that was true, it simply means that the ukraine is a totalitarian joke at the constitutional level. So the glaring fact remains : the ukraine is a puppet U.S. state and literally a military dictatorship – a dictatorship that U.S. retards try to sell as a poor innocent democracy fighting for freedom.

“Shill test”
hardly fool-proof.

LangstonHughes says:

“When the Romans appointed dictators it was awesome and justified, but when modern satrapies do it the sacred institute of mass democracy is violated.”

Why do you care so much for a governmental form that is rightfully criticized to the point of excoriation? If blindly appplying the rule of negation to all acts of Ukraine results in endorsement of modern democracy, your rule system is unsophisticated.

Test: Negroes, like White Bread, being deficient in higher reasoning capabilities, can as a rule only be commanded by the lash, and this is the condition which best matches their genius.

Jim says:

“rules based order” “Defending Democracy”, when they cancelled the election in Moldova, overthrew the elected government in the Ukraine, attacked Serbia, and attempted to cancel the election in Georgia.

Who cares about Russia? Isolationism is best. Let the foreigners fight their own wars. Focus instead on convicting the American elite who used Ukraine as a money laundering machine. Round up every twit who put the Ukraine flag in their profile and send them there. Likewise for the “free palestine” people.

notglowing says:

Musk is now at odds with the right wing on twitter for supporting H1-Bs.
He’s wrong on this one, he just benefits from being able to import infinity pajeets for cheaper labour like many other big companies do.

I do hope he changes his mind, because otherwise he’ll only find browns and grifters on his side.

If Musk is being honest about only wanting to import the top global talent, he should be fine with immigration quotas being reduced by 99% – or more. Not to mention that the H1-B program is full of fraud and largely the hires have nothing to do with the supposed goal of the program.

It’s sad seeing a wedge being driven between Musk and right wingers, but this one-hundred percent his own doing. He needs to give up on the cheap foreign labour.

Jim says:

Even if you are actually importing smart Indians, you are importing low trust culture. Due to massive scamming and fraud in the H1B process, you are likely to be importing stupid Indians. If you manage to get in a smart Indian, and you let your smart Indian get anywhere near the hiring process, you are definitely going to be importing stupid Indians, who probably all have the same last name as the one you let get near the hiring process.

If you are importing H1Bs, you are dealing with India and Indians, and everyone in India is going to lie to you.

notglowing says:

I fully agree with you on this, but this is too big of a thoughtcrime to say at the moment.

If immigration was limited (in general) to such an extent that only a tiny amount of people were allowed to come in, it would be a much smaller problem. And if Musk is honest about only wanting to import top global experts he can’t find anywhere, he should be convinced this is a reasonable compromise.

Either way, Tesla much like other companies that require a lot of labour has hired masses of H1-Bs to save money, from what I’ve heard (not totally sure on the details). It’s difficult to accept that this is a bad thing when the bottom line depends on it. And there are no end of right wing browns (like Vivek) who will obviously be supportive of it.

It is good that many are pushing back on this, and that Elon is at least arguing with them. Not so good if the end result is just him distancing himself from that side of the right because of it. Trump is also prone to being pro-immigration so it’s not great that there’s no one with different views at the top.

The Cominator says:

Trump said he is siding with H1Bs not good he (well the Republicans) is going to lose 10s of MILLIONS of votes the Democrats will get a supermajority and Trump will be hounded out of office. I almost feel like I should play my contact my old high school friend Alex Spiro card on this… but I’m not quite sure what to say. Indian immigration is absolute cancer and I can’t support Trump while he is supporting H1Bs. I only forgave him for Covid and for not crossing the Rubicon because the other side was so bad.

JustAnotherGuy says:

I don’t think votes matter at this point, only who counts the votes. I think whatever happens in 2026 will cause everyone to either uncuck themselves or be rendered irrelevant. So yes, there’s no place on this world where support for female emancipation is negative, and Trump, Musk, et. all are not budging on H1-Bs, but I don’t think they can hold this position as the red terror escalates.

Imagine Thermidor launching a white terror, and telling them to leave the poor H1-Bs alone. Not going to happen.

The Cominator says:

Well anyway Elon backed down. H1Bs are to be for super duper high salaries with an additional yearly tax only.

neurotoxin says:

“Well anyway Elon backed down.”

But the mask has been ripped off. We saw what we saw.

Adam says:

> But the mask has been ripped off. We saw what we saw.

Elon was Thermidor from the start. I’m not sure why people are so surprised about this issue coming up. Especially about Elon. He is not interested in America or Europe. He wants to go to Mars.

This is where the fun starts. Antifa to the left, straight white men to the right.

Contaminated NEET says:

This is pretty good evidence that Musk does not actually know what time it is. And if Musk doesn’t know, then Trump definitely doesn’t know. We will drown and nobody shall save us.

Jim says:

Pretty sure Pete Hegseth knows what time it is, and he is spending a whole lot of time talking to Trump.

A2 says:

What is needed is corresponding open borders for EVs. What do you say, Elon? A bit of competition will spur your fresh workers to new heights.

Jim says:

Elon’s batteries are way more expensive than Chinese batteries, and some Chinese batteries can handle vastly more charge discharge cycles.

The Chinese are way behind him in self driving, equal or somewhat better in other aspects of electric vehicles, and way, way ahead of him in solar power and batteries.

The huge cost, and huge disadvantage, of an electric car is battery lifetime. The Chinese have fixed that, and are now working on rapidly bringing down the price.

His Solar City project failed. He just could not make cheap enough solar panels and battery packs. The Chinese have succeeded in what he failed to accomplish and gave up on. And the extremely high Biden Trump tariffs prevent Americans from taking advantage of the fact that solar power, long a useless Greenie boondoggle, has finally become economically feasible. Well, would be feasible if you could get a Chinese battery pack for your home. The Chinese are rather keen on centralised solar power, and the regulatory authorities around the world are rather keen on centralised power, so at the moment you can only buy these very cheap very long life batteries made into cars, or made into container sized backup storage batteries for the centralised electricity grid.

However the cost of the grid itself is very high, so decentralised solar power would undercut it — if you could get it, which at present no one in the world can.

We currently have the absurd situation that solar panels on people’s roofs feed power into the grid, which stashes it in centralised Chinese made batteries that the homeowners cannot buy, and then at night comes out from the grid into people’s homes, with the grid charging an arm and leg to move it back and forth.

Mayflower Sperg says:

Lithium battery storage must be centralized and carefully monitored for the same reason you can’t have a light-water nuclear reactor in your basement. All batteries degrade over time and must be replaced and safely disposed of before they erupt into a fire that cannot be extinguished until it burns itself out. Every lithium battery is a disaster waiting to happen, as seen in thousands of cellphone and security-camera videos from China.

Jim says:

Centralisation implies monopoly. Monopolies always charge far too much. Then the government takes over and announces they will run the monopoly without all that evil capitalist profit. Then ten years down the line they charging ten times as much despite massive subsidies paid by the taxpayers and are forbidding people from doing it themselves.

Everyone depends on a centralised electricity monopoly. Which has just become technologically obsolete, though the things that would enable people to bypass the monopoly at a reasonable price are not yet available to the public.

I have my own sewage system. Saves me a lot of cost and is not much trouble. Everyone would do it except for regulatory obstacles — my house was fortunately grandfathered in.

A2 says:

Also, Chinese EVs are far less expensive. Same goes for European manufacturers, they have positioned their cars and EVs as premium goods but now cheap and acceptable substitutes are arriving. Tariffs are already in place.

I don’t think software will be a moat. (And aren’t Tesla stubbornly doing theirs on hard mode, sensor-wise?)

The Chinese weakness might lie in cutting corners quality/safetywise, as hinted by MS above. But Teslas also meet a spectacular fiery end with some frequency so there may not be a clear difference. Also, the authorities certainly don’t want EVs to be considered dangerous. Yet, all in all, manufacturers still better be ready.

Jim says:

Doing it the hard way is the correct way. Lidar is a crutch. Camera only, if you can make it work which Tesla eventually did, is an inherently better solution.

Lidar is a workaround for the car not knowing what it is seeing.

Rod says:

A bucket of paint bounced out the bed of a truck, a burning smokescreen, mud slung from a dumptruck, a fucking heavy rain/snow/fog … all obscure vision.

If I’m going to be sleeping in the “car of the future” while it takes me somewhere, I’d prefer having fulltime radar backup that at least knows to apply brakes well before the safe stopping distance in my forward vector drops to zero.

Otherwise I’m not sleeping, I’m driving, for which I want a knife switch on the dash that turns all that shit off… nothing more than battery, voltage regulator, and motor.

There’s a market for a cheap, 100% dumb, pure electric car.

Sher Singh says:

https://www.quora.com/Were-US-Marines-tougher-than-elite-German-troops-in-WW2

Found this inspirational to read so just do it.

ਅਕਾਲ

T says:

Elon, next time before/during a psychedelic trip, reflect on the paintings of Hieronymus Bosch, particularly but not exclusively on the triptych called “The Garden of Earthly Delights,” and consider what message might be conveyed there for you.

Then go read Chesterton.

Hesiod says:

Indeed. Reread Chesterton’s The Everlasting Man after completing Vendramini’s Them and Us to get back on track to proper Christmas spirit last week. I can indulge some philosophical cosmopolitanism from weirdos such as Diogenes and Musk but we didn’t expect the Dark variety of his MAGA to mean subcontinental.

Rod says:

If someone initiates war across your border you have two choices…

#1 Immediately throw everything at repelling the invader back out.
You don’t need to cross their border yet since that would be launching and declaring a war, but do need to send a message.
So you must brutally slaughter every single one of their men, putting the heads of their generals and officers on pikes along your border, and leaving the rest to rot on the spot as fertilizer for your fields and carrion for your vultures, and fuel for your fires seeding their border winds with the stench of their men.

#2 Wimp around, slow roll, and find out how the invader will continue to kill, flatten, burn, rape, and plunder you next.

The West chose #2.
The West kept choosing #2.
The West lost the open phase.

Now if you faithfully execute #1 (just for the shockback quick end, and/or also because your intel said #4 wasnt necessary at that time), and if instead of fleeing, they still keep coming across, and if your defensive losses become noticeable, then your intel estimates should tell you to either #3 launch strikes of decapitation and anti-warsupply and general warfare across their border to win, or to #4 negotiate and surrender. And #5 continue grinding each other till someone calls #4.

The East kept coming.
The West’s losses were noticeable.
The West had intel indicating they weren’t quite at #4 yet on the physical war, but failed to include the longer geopolitical turning going on against them in the rest of the world in their net-estimate (AMAFROBRICKS).
The West couldn’t do #3, nor could the East against the West, because nukes.
The West kept choosing #2.
The West lost the middle-end phase.

The West keeps talking about doing #1, but keeps doing #2, which again keeps indicating they don’t have the balls and/or the power to do #1 (and/or the diplomatic framing skills to keep the kaboom mutually off the table during the proxy fight between West and East in the lands of the third country [UA]). So eventually they will have to do #4.

The West could have just given up two of the regions early on and settled points on the diplo, now it’s up to a hard four, and soon will be more if it keeps doing #2, while failing at #1 which just results in more loss, instead of doing #4.

Globally… this war probably defines some arcs of rationale a bit, but weakens borders massively. And the UN/etc remains pointlessly cucked as usual.

The West is dividing into ballsy factions around doing #1, it’s tolerant but pissed about the cables and SOSUS cuts, does not want to give up the gas/oil west of Crimea, doesn’t want the East to get the whole arc it already got let alone up to the Dnieper, is probably almost completely out of ammo stockpiles, has been incredibly stupid and disjoint on the diplomatic/military/sanction fronts, and has no idea how to play AMAFROBRICKS.

Going Woke and Climate and Covid and GloboHomo thoroughly wrecked the West beyond belief too.

They would have been better to fully friend and partner
with Russia 35 years ago when Russia came asking.

Now it’s better if the West’s Citizenries just riseup and depose their fucked up Governments.

Zelensky might find himself exiled to Israel, running for President there up against Sheinbaum, see how the Jews vote.

Jim says:

> The West chose #2

Huh? Nuts.

What was the West doing in Ukraine overthrowing the government in the first place? They crossed Ukraine’s borders first. If you think the west should have reacted to Russia crossing Ukraine’s borders, should not Russia have reacted to the West crossing Ukraine’s borders? Putin should have intervened immediately in 2014.

OK, American meddling was delicate and low level. But not that low level. People were being killed. A lot of people were being killed. That is not all that low level. And, til 2022, Russian meddling was even more delicate and low level — so low level that they killed vastly fewer people.

Right now, as we speak, the President of Georgia is asking for European and American intervention against the party that just won the election. The election outcome in Moldova was simply ignored. Not only have there been no free elections in the Ukraine after 2014, there were no elections at all after Zelensky was “elected”. And the way the wind blows, no further elections in Moldova.

These disputes are not genuinely internal — they are the American empire exercising imperial power in nations adjacent to Russia. If Globohomo is allowed to exercise power in these state, why not Russia?

The only reason the election Georgia seems likely to take effect, is that is a long way between Georgia and the nearest Globohomo military base. Otherwise the president would have just cancelled the election as she attempted to do, and gotten away with it, as she failed to get away with it..

Were US bases adjacent, then when she attempted to cancel the Georgian election, as the Moldovan election was cancelled, and Ukrainian elections were just silently not held, people would have paid attention, fearing the next step, which she just took, calling for American and European “assistance”. The ultimate constitution of the nations of Western Europe is what people think the US military might do. Has been ever since World War Two.

And for a long time, the system imposed on the world was a “democracy” of different branches of the uniparty. Because of increasing American political extremism, and decreasing American military power, that system is now collapsing.

Varna says:

Bad airplane crash in South Korea, on the heels of the idiotic coup-attempt.

Perhaps in places in East Asia we are going to witness the functional equivalent of replacing people with incompetents via generic ageing of society. When everyone running things is 70 and 80, in spite of them being conscientious and smart when younger, this could make things equivalent to younger people who are dumb and gay.

Likewise, over there they have their own demoralization malaise, which is not enforced by the media and polit commissars and schools, but a “natural” process, growing out of the forms their modernity has took.

In spite of their many amazing achievements, the eastern mongoloid is enduring collateral damage of modernity that includes near-zero fertility, spreading demoralization, and an old fuck society. Japan is porn-obsessed, South Korea forbids French kissing on TV, China forbids porn and gay parades but allows sex toys and gay clubs; Japan is a stable one-party “western democracy”, South Korea is a turbulent alleged pluralist democracy, China is capitalist-communist, but in spite of these surface differences, all three exhibit some strikingly similar “natural” collateral damage elements of modernity. Taiwan too.

Anon says:

Watched the video , what a catastrophe.
Especially the wall of death.
The plane had no landing gear and was going fast as if the engine still running ,there is multiple questions need to be answered.
A very unfortunate incident.

JustAnotherGuy says:

Japan is addicted to porn, but they are running out of porn artists.

Either because they don’t show up (the future belongs…), or they, like many other men, were claimed into the NEET life because no wife, no kids, no reason to do anything but jack off.

T says:

The Vivek episode demonstrates one thing – leftism, whether white, kike, or pajeet, is motivated by envy. It is the leftists who have “fragile egos” and an “inferiority complex.” The Worst Tweet Ever gave you a glimpse into the demon-possessed mindset of someone alienated from Christ. Even if you sincerely believe that Indians are superior to whites (lol), a foreign Hindu scammer using that as an argument for replacing white Americans who don’t have an “Israel” or an “India” of their own while blaming CHAD and STACY was the exact moment that the leftist bubble burst – a powerful redpilling moment for the normies who can now see the fundamentally sinful nature of leftism. Jimianity soon goes mainstream, and whatever his flaws, it is to Musk’s credit.

T says:

Leftists are wolves in sheep’s clothing. Vivek revealed the wolf inside. If he were a “mensch,” as the yids are fond of saying, he would signal his loyalty to his Anglo hosts by doing the Stephen Miller thing and advocating “America for Americans.” But he out-grouped himself, and exposed the predatory mindset of his type, the inherently hostile and antisocial reasoning motivating the pro-pooification charlatans. Such snakes don’t want (fellow) shitskins to join you as part of a team effort for building a great civilization and pursing happiness and all that – they want them to replace you and rule over you, eventually kill you and loot your stuff, while sanctimoniously pretending to be on your side. Which is not to paint all Hindus with the same brush – there are some legit Based Dharma Bros out there. But Vivek is not one of them, and neither are his supporters.

The Cominator says:

Jeets in general can’t be trusted. Dr. Shiva and D’Souza (I trust him because he was willing to go to federal prison for angering the left) are very very very rare exceptions. Vivek the pharma scammer may genuinely hate certain things about the bureaucracy but he is not trustworthy.

A2 says:

Looks like Elon has had a change of heart. He meant the H1B also had to be reformed. How, in detail? Well, just wait and see, lol.

https://nypost.com/2024/12/29/us-news/elon-musk-changes-his-tune-on-h1-b-visas-after-maga-backlash/

ayyylmao says:

He got the call.

Rod says:

H-1B BlueCheckmarks getting censored…? Linkquotes below…

https://www.theepochtimes.com/us/musk-appears-to-soften-pro-foreign-worker-h-1b-visa-stance-amid-online-spat-5783277

https://x.com/LauraLoomer/status/1873194785093370352
https://x.com/LauraLoomer/status/1873215684349657308
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1872344967382987161
https://x.com/OwenShroyer1776/status/1873189624891458033
https://x.com/GavinWax
https://x.com/ConservativeOG/status/1872491856438927476

Laura Loomer, a conservative activist and independent journalist who has long backed President-elect Donald Trump, wrote on X in multiple posts over the weekend that the social platform demonetized her account of more than 1.4 million followers. Her account appears to now lack a verified blue check mark.

Loomer said that it was because she posted comments that were critical of Musk and his allies’ views on immigration as well as H-1B visas.

“Why are X users who pay for @premium having their posts listed as ‘probable spam’ on my posts @elonmusk?” she wrote late on Saturday. “This is censorship. I understand you don’t like me, but this is nothing but retaliatory censorship?”

Last Tuesday, Loomer criticized tech billionaires for descending “upon Palm Beach” as Trump works on his transition team at Mar-a-Lago. Two days later, Musk responded by saying: “Loomer is trolling for attention. Ignore.”

Later that week, she said that her account lost access to premium features.

Others who also said their accounts lost premium access include InfoWars host and Jan. 6 defendant Owen Shroyer, New York Young Republican Club president Gavin Wax, and the ConservativePAC, which all have hundreds of thousands of followers apiece.

“My verification badge is now under review. Weird! Didn’t change anything,” wrote Wax, who also spoke out against H-1B visas. As of Sunday, however, Wax appears to have had his verification badge restored.

“All of our influencers have now lost verification status, as well as our own page,” the Trump-supporting ConservativePAC wrote. “Our brand did nothing. We spoke out against HB1 visas and it appears that @elonmusk intentionally shut us down? Is this the new status quo from America’s ‘most free’ social media platform?”

So far, Musk has not publicly responded to the recent accusations of censorship on X. The Epoch Times contacted the platform for comment but received no response as of Sunday.

Jim says:

Tensions are now rising between Trump’s billionaire base, who want woke out of the way so that they are allowed to run their businesses, and Trump’s ordinary people base, who want woke out of the way so that they can get on with their lives, but do not want to be screwed by the billionaires.

Trump needs to sit on his billionaires and make them shut up and toe the line, or we are going to get a commie Democrat party in place of a woke Democrat party.

Jehu says:

There’s an easy covenant that could be made that would give a long lasting majority, but most of the billionaires are too arrogant to consider it:

That covenant would be eject most present illegal immigrants, starting with the most obnoxious ones. H1B’s allowed only if they’re paid more than 150K, that number indexed to current salaries and possibly also to housing prices. Tariff and tax structure altered to make the US an expensive labor and cheap land country for the foreseeable future. Wokeness forbidden by law. Favored position to the Christian religion like what persisted in the 1950s. Hardcore anti-trust action applied against media and Hollywood who clearly value cultural subversion moreso than making money. Repeal of SOX. Increase of all magic numbers for corporations by 100% (i.e. this regulation applies to all companies with more than X employees) with indexing to population. Strict interpretation of census—actual enumeration as required by the Constitution, no sampling or other mathemagic. Revocation of any state or city charter (reverts to territory) under any of the following conditions:

Excessive debt or failure to maintain order or excessive electoral cheating.

Revocation of the Reynolds v Sims case, and requirement that all states immediately revert to previous schema, no repeal allowed for at least 30 years for reasons of path-dependency. This will allow rural areas in blue states to defend their interests.

All colleges that take any public money or accept any federal contracts are required to publish their admission rules and make them such that they can be scored by an autistic homeschooled 6th grader or by a crowdsourced metric. If the college wants to say that you get points for, say, your 50 yard dash time or your single rep max press or your SAT score or your leadership of an organization with at least N members, that’s fine. If it wants to have an evening gown or swimsuit competition for women applications, that’s cool too but it has to be crowdsourced on the judging. Basically no discretion can be allowed to a group that has shown itself to be hostile. Also, any actions or statements by a college are verboten if they would be verboten if you replaced X with Jew or Black or your favorite protected class.

Also any colleges that accept any federal money are required to change their professorial impact metrics. That change must include significant credit for successful replication of alleged papers by other researchers and even more significant for refutations of same. The incentives for scientists need serious realignment.

Contaminated NEET says:

And why would the bureaucrats and billionaires go along with any of this? You’re going to have to beat them thoroughly first to get them to accept it, and you haven’t. Trump’s victory has the Right and the populists feeling their oats, but it hasn’t actually changed anything. The President has been a celebrity actor since FDR. And even your celebrity actor isn’t on board with your program. They let him win because they’re confident that they can manage him, because they want his face on the disasters America is likely to hit in the next few years, and because they think he can motivate more young White male suckers to go die in the idiotic losing wars they’ve got planned.

Fidelis says:

Establishing hard numbers on H1B salary like this is essentially trying to set the price of bread on the shelf.

The problems with H1B:
– total abuse in order to both profit from looting zombie corps, and chain migrate
– wage suppression
– abuse natives by importing infinite foreigners, legally

Some easy fixes, easy as in easy to comprehend
– limit imported labor to a small percentage of any workforce, crack down hard on any attempts to obfuscate abuse
– auction system for the limited slots, not retarded lottery system
– hard caps on numbers

The current system is currently so broken and with abuse channels more known by the people abusing the system, you want a complete rewrite. Eliminate H1B system entirely, replace it with a system that implements the “easy fix” goals.

Rod says:

Simpler to revert Govts back to Sheriff, Roads, Defense.

Everything else you can accomplish on your own, amongst yourselves, as was done for thousands of years, before ProgMarx came on the scene and PsyOp’d you all into worshipping them.

In fact, even Sheriff Roads Defense were successfully done without Governments, because people simply rose to do those tasks together, as and when and where needed.

Did you murder, rape, assault, adulter in married person, steal or damage property, defraud a deal, kidnap, enslave, abuse the lesser, initiate war, not take care of your dependants the hungry and sick, destroy Land or Nature given by God unto your care for future generations?

Those are Old Law type, reciprocal universal sufficient.

Within it you are free, do whatever you want.

Every current Govt on the planet is Illegitimate, manufactured by, and for benefit of, those Fallen under Influence of Evil, and now Become an Insufferable Burden and Pestilence upon all Men.

Depose them all, go back to the Old.

Jim says:

> Simpler to revert Govts back to Sheriff, Roads, Defense.

Far from simple. Government is a monopoly of large scale organised violence, and it really has to be a monopoly, because though we want competition in the supply of goods, we do not want competition in the supply of bads, otherwise known as “war”

But how do you stop the monopoly in the supply of large scale bads from creating lots of other considerably less justified monopolies?

Well, for people who are in a position to resolve their differences by killing each other, they need to adhere to a faith that dissuades this. So, a state whose state apparatus is larger than a large family, needs a state faith. So you always have a state religion. Unfortunately, our current state religion is demonic.

The state religion of the founders discouraged excessive monopoly creation. But that faith has been dead for some time Pete Hegseth proposes that we revive it it. Sounds like a plan, though I favor a rather older faith than that. You, however, do not have a plan.

Rod says:

You can’t have a state religion based in evil and done by evildoers.
Continuing to worship these Pols and their Govts, and teaching and telling others to do so, is suicide.

If you’re in USA, probably 25% of the people who work, work for those Pols… Govt directly, Schools, Contractors, Political entities… all fully locked on the Teat of Money and Evil… that’s pathetic.
Then 1/2 your people are Demonrats, 7/8 of 1/2 are Republirats, the remaining 1/16 might have a clue, and only 50% of them talk or do anything about it.

> The state religion of the founders discouraged excessive monopoly creation.

They didn’t encode enough of their meme in the Constitution as a religion. They simply assumed that future generations would P2P inherit the meme they knew and would keep following and passing it on. Schoolkids are only quizzed on Constitution, not asked to do research papers on their Letters that went into it, and are only given vague words “Freedom and Sheit”. They grow up dunces on Vagaya Games.
Well Evil had another meme, and was successful injecting it. Evil’s meme said “Hey You Guize, see this Constitution, here’s how you can abuse it for your own gain, and how to bloat the land with Evil to help you do it.”
Evil is afraid of the Bible, it’s not afraid of the Constitution.
Even leaving that out of the picture.
If the Constitution had said things like…
“The entirety of your promulgated Law under Me must be no more than 500 pages of 10 point font. This is not Amendable.”
“Your Law must conform in spirit of type to Old Law, limiting Bad Work what 90% of people mutually agree is bad, decreeing Good Work what 90% of people mutually agree is Good. This is not Amendable.”

Smaller better monopoly, kept that way by a Faith, not no monopoly.

Contaminated NEET says:

>Trump needs to sit on his billionaires and make them shut up and toe the line, or we are going to get a commie Democrat party in place of a woke Democrat party.

They brought in Trump to do the exact opposite of that: he’s here to pacify and reassure the remnants of American’s White middle class while they bring in ever more replacements, faster and faster, who they imagine will be easier to manage. Trump thinks he’s a great deal-maker, and I suspect the deal he made is to sell us down the river in exchange for another term and not dying in jail.

Fidelis says:

Some reasons this is clearly untrue:

– Support from Trump 2.0 team for the European parties that are exporting foreigners
– UK PM admitting mass migration was intentional policy and apologising
– Very nice placarded and well-photographed “Mass Deportation” signs at Trump rallies
– The guy in charge of enforcing immigration law is Tom Homan, and he’s explicitly threatening lefty politicians with arrest for interference
– After the blowup, everyone in power pushing for coolie labor publicly backtracked. Side note because I’ve seen it posted here as well: Trump did NOT comment on the situation, he made a generic low commitment “yeah sure H1B, we need good people, we need the best people” comment more than 6 months ago, that rat journos then attempted to claim was a recent statement on the issue.

Trump 2.0 was put in place to reindustrialize and remilitarize the GAE. It is not a project to try and placate normies, or protect the FIRE economy, it’s an explicit plan for retaining the empire at all costs, and one of those costs is convincing the fighting class that they have something to fight for. Once again, I am asking you to blackpill on things that are true, and not make up scenarios in your head to then whine about.

Pilgrim says:

Eastern Europe (save for the Baltics and perhaps Poland) wants peace but EU is preventing it. They just blocked the Romanian election for that reason.

So no elections in Ukraine, Romania, Moldova… soon there will be no elections in Western Europe, either.

Unless Europeans grow the spine it requires to massacre every globohomo agent in Europe, they will end up being the human sacrifice in this holy war they are trapped on the wrong side of

Upravda says:

In my country, current president Milanović, a lefty but an alpha male, the man who, as the supreme commander of the armed forces, actively refused to send Croatian soldiers to Uke war in any form, pretense, or excuse, has just won almost half of votes. Including those from the right. There will be a second round, unfortunately, but the cuckservative candidate got less than 20 percent.

Oh, by the way, Milanović also refused to enforce covid ausweiss among his associates and was outspoken critic of that entire mindless hysteria.

So, there is some hope, although I’m aware that we will not vote ourselves out of this mess.

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