Not the Zionist Occupation Government

Simply because Progressivism works as a religion now, does not mean that it came from a religious source.

A.J.P.

>If Jews ruled America, Hamas and the Palestinian Authority would be reduced to smoking grease spots in half an hour and the Al Aqsa Mosque would be flattened in a day. Therefore, the matador’s cape, not the matador.

Not really. Taking from Winston Churchill classical definition, American Jews are Bolsheviks, Israeli Jews are Zionists, they like each other as much as New England whites like Southern whites. There was actually a generation of American Jews who grew up by the time of the Six-Day War that came to like Israel as a symbol of Jewish genius, but this generation will soon pass away and the young politically powerful American Jews, if they have to choose between progressivism and Israel, will choose the first. I give 20 years at most for American Jews to abandon their support of Israel and the Jewish state go the way of Rhodesia.

Though I do agree that Jews are converts to progressivism, not it’s creators. It’s just that as converts they exhibit a zealotry not seen in the original faithful. That’s a very prevalent historical phenomenom. During the Early Middle Ages, the people who went out of the way to convert the countryside and the areas outside of previous Roman influence to Christianity were not the Romanized elites of the cities, but the recently converted Irish and Anglo-Saxon monks such as Columba and Boniface. Currently, South Korea provides the world’s second largest number of Christian missionaries, surpassed only by the United States. When Jews converted to the Enlightenment, during the 18th century, they also became it’s most zealous missionaries.

Jews have higher average IQ than gentile whites and so are overrepresented in all IQ-loaded professions, obviously including the ruling class but also totally benign fields like classical music composition and astrophysics. Its not clear to me that there is any over representation of Jews in the cathedral after normalising for IQ.

“In Moldbugs account: the Puritans started off holier than thou, then became the Evangelicals and such, who were holier than Jesus, then the Unitarians, who were holier than Christ, and finally the progressives who are holier than God. And here we are while they get holier still. While Jews are overrepresented among progressives, they are conversos.”

Basically a synopsis too great to be comprehended by the entryists.

Jim wrote:

“I predict that if the official belief system changes radically overnight by decree, from progressivism to reaction, most formerly progressive Jews will support the new system”

That’s exactly where you’re wrong. What your argument boils down to, in accordance with Moldbug’s fashion, is that Jews are not naturally, inherently Leftist any more than anyone else, but rather, became Leftist due to exposure to a memetic force instigated by Puritans. If only you expose Jews to a different memetic force, they’ll change their conduct altogether, so you reason. Basically, when the Jewish Question is concerned, you disavow of biological determinism in favor of the nurture hypothesis. There’s actually a subset of philo-Semitic WNs who believe that, if only Jews start identifying as White, their Leftist proclivity will instantly evaporate, so let’s convert Jews to White Nationalism; in similar vein, you want to convert Western Jews to Reaction and believe this will solve the Jewish Problem instantly. Wrong.

Jews are Leftist not due to exposure to any specific memetic force, but due to their biological programming. First off, when we speak of Jews here, we mean Ashkenazim, for the most part. This is not to argue that Mizrahim have wings attached to their backs, but evidently they are quite similar to Arabs, who are not known for excessive Leftism. So when Jewish Leftism is concerned, it is meant the Leftism of “White” Jews. It matters not whether you consider Jews to be Armenoids or Afro-Asiatics; Ashkenazim are the distinct sub-race under scrutiny here.

What differentiates Jews from normal Europeans? A lot, in fact. Let’s start with, say, creativity and talent. Most would assume that Jews are more creative than Whites. This is false, and particularly false when adjusting for IQ. A White man with an IQ of 125 is immensely more creative than a Jew with an equal IQ, probably more creative than any Jew with an IQ of 140. Jews are abstract thinkers who lack the spontaneity required to produce high culture. Aesthetically speaking, Jews are inferior – there are almost no great artistic, architectural, or musical masterpieces produced by Jews, barring a few insignificant exceptions here and there, mostly created by Jews with significant White admixture. Jews have verbal IQ in spades, but are low on performance IQ. What Jews do have is consistency, some would say rigidity, and I would add: zeal. Naturally, Jews are prone to formulate abstract ideologies which are meticulously internally consistent, detached from actual reality as they may be. (Marxism, Freudianism, Randianism, race-denialism, Cultural Marxism, etc etc.) Jews are scholastic, or rather, Talmudic. Shocking, I know. This internally-consistent ideological detachment from reality is a key feature of Leftism. If Leftism is defined as holier-than-thou signaling which inevitably spirals into complete insanity, then Jews are natural Leftists, specifically, natural completely insane Leftists. This has a deep biological root and nothing at all to do with conversion to any type of memetic movement. Jewish attraction to Leftism is not due to talent — Jews are less talented than Europeans in almost everything except legalism – but due to abstract-mindedness, scholasticism/Talmudism, and zeal.

Another source of attraction for Jews to Leftism is diminished empathy. Whereas White Leftism is of the “cat lady” variety, which is why so many Whites become cucks for Africans, Jewish Leftism is of the Machiavellian variety: they don’t actually care about the subject of their ostensible affection. White couples may adopt broods of African niglets, but Jews don’t do that – rather, they use Blacks as a cudgel with which to beat their White political adversaries. White Progressives were, initially, race realists who wanted to civilize Blacks for their own good. (And yes, many Jews were also quite racially realistic) Today, that would translate to supporting massive genetic engineering to increase Black IQ and reduce Black aggression, combined with other Eugenic measures. Then Jewish Boasian Anthropology happened, and so only an evil Nazi would want to increase Black IQ now. Jews transformed White Progressivism, which however misguided was at least somewhat altruistic toward its supposed beneficiaries and had a moral leg (however unsound) to stand on, into an insane, blind, totalitarian ideology which benefits absolutely no one. They did it because they are not driven by empathy, but by zealous pursuit of power, or less nefariously, by zealous adherence to ideological purity unmolested by the outside world. Jews are inherently Pharisaic, and Phariseeism leads to Leftism, leads to accelerated batshit insane frothing at the mouth Leftism. Jews did not convert to Phariseeism – they brought it with them, obviously. Because Jews have diminished emphatic capacity, they are attracted to ideologies which allow for Machiavellian competition for power, thus, ardent Trotskyism or conversely ultra-capitalism with international and individualistic features (did someone say “Neocons”?), whatever has a better prospect of taking over their hosts. Combined with the ability to rationalize everything on purely intellectual grounds, this already-sociopathic streak becomes particularly lethal. Jews are inherently destabilizing and can turn any harmless, to say nothing of harmful, notion into an expanding and accelerating black hole of death.

Let’s talk about sex. Jews are described here as converts to Progressive Puritanism. Do you believe your own words? Jews are definitely “puritanical” in the sense that they want to purify society of whatever mystical, immaterial force they blame their supposed misfortunes on – Tum’ah (ritual impurity), racism, anti-Semitism, pork, Sabbath violation, Hellenism, White Supremacism, Amalek’s scheming, “erev rav”, whatever. But then why is it that almost every time an article or a book is published promoting sexual perversion and degeneracy, there’s a Jewish name attached to it? I know: Whites never write articles or books ever, so it must be it. No, actually, Jews are not puritanical at all when it comes to sexuality, rather, Jews strive to sexualize each and every aspect of culture. My point here is that Jews make Leftism in their own image, and this image is not sexually puritanical in the least. Jews are perverted and hypersexual because of their genes, and will keep being perverted and hypersexual whatever the official state religion is.

Don’t even get me started on Jewish greed, nepotism, and general low-trust conduct. (But I guess these, too, are the result of “Jewish talent” and conversion to Progressivism rather than a biological predisposition. Right)

My last point here, which is crucial to the whole debate: many claim that because Leftist Jews don’t reproduce much while Orthodox Jews reproduce like rabbits, Jewish Leftism is on its way out. Aren’t you forgetting something? Namely, that all Ashkenazi Jews began as Orthodox, and that even if tomorrow all Leftist Jews disappear, individual Orthodox Jews will keep leaving the ghetto behind and in a generation or two will form the new stratum of Leftist Jews? Now at this point you may argue: the more Leftism-prone Jews leave Orthodoxy, the less Leftist will the Orthodox become. Alas, Giyur is a thing, and those who convert to Judaism, usually cynical, materialistic, pharisaic, special-snowflake cases, may as well bring with them an admixture of genes to ensure that the Orthodox never select too-harshly (if at all) against Leftism. That is, some Jews leave Judaism, some Gentiles join Judaism, but the Jewish people will keep producing Leftism forever, and removing the “bad” secular Jews without also removing the “good” Orthodox Jews and without ensuring that no Gentiles convert to Judaism is an exercise in futility. “Good” Orthodox Jews carry the same genes as “bad” secular Jews.

So now answer this: if supposedly you convert all Jews to pan-White Nationalism or to Reactionism, do you think that they *won’t* adjust to the new ideology by bringing with them abstract ideological zeal devoid of any organic connection to reality, Machiavellian power struggles, Phariseeism, sexual perversion and degeneracy, and legalistic & trust-diminishing endeavors? Were the Jews made this way because they converted, or is it hereditary? If a Cathedral functions as a Synagogue, is it really a Cathedral?

tl;dr Jews gravitate toward Leftism entirely because of their genes and regardless of Progressive memetics, are biologically predestined to Leftism, and replacing one memetic force with another won’t make the Jews any less Leftist. Convert Jews to Reaction and you’ll end up with Judeo-Reaction – a Reaction with Jewish features, not necessarily any better than Progressivism with Jewish features. There’s indeed a Jewish Problem independent of whatever critique you have devised against WASPs.

If attacking cathedral is more important than attacking it’s tools, then why did all it take to stop it in Germany was the removal of the Jews from power? Hitler beat the larglly jewish comunist party and gained control of the media and the cathedral died in Germany. Based upon that example attacking the cathedral is best done indirectly by attacking it’s most effective servants.

The other wrinkle in the “Jewish question” is that today’s Ashkenazi Jews are completely unrelated to the ancient Hebrews. They don’t even follow the ancient Hebrew Torah, but rather the Babylonian Talmud.