How to deport eighteen million illegals

Eventually you’ll create a new race, a truly American race

Yes, and that race will probably have a few drops of East-Asian blood (white nerds in particular often have yellow wives) and possibly some other things, but for the sake of civilization, most of the genes in that gene pool should be white. And black genes in particular should be selected against, because even a few drops of black blood are horribly dysgenic and sufficient to completely destroy a civilization.

I don’t believe in “absolute racial purity” (which is utter bullshit and, as you say, a distraction from more important things), but Hajnal Line whites are the obvious and unmatched master race, and should not incorporate too many foreign genes into their gene pool, if the stars are to be conquered.

>Hajnal Line whites

Didn’t spring up from the soil. They were created by patriarchally determined selective breeding. In the Roman times, such people were largely considered barbarians who could barely build mud huts. They only rose to prominence because of Saxon blood. Where are they today? Are these people really what you want to preserve as they are today? Are those peoples today really the Hajnal Line whites of yesterday when they practice completely different breeding and have done for close to two centuries if not more? They don’t exist anymore. All that remains is wreckage with a few isolated spots of less wreckage progressing to more wreckage.

>should not incorporate too many foreign genes into their gene pool

Instead of being focused so much on where the genes came from. Be more focused on if those genes good or bad, if those gene arrived politely or hostile, and pruning the bad and hostile.

The European that conquered the known world only came into being from the Aryan conquest of old Europe. You are not Aryan though you may very well be of their heritage. We only exist because of eons of gene mixing with constant pruning, and it is those groups that pruned better that ended up better. It wasn’t groups that maintained complete genetic isolation that dominated.

We are headed to a future of accelerated pruning via vitro. We may already be there. We are men living among ruins, and we have to face what’s to be rebuilt is going to be different.

I think the core of Pax’s argument, that you cannot reliably form a synthetic tribe on racial principals — it’s notable that the Patrician’s stopped counting after 6 generations, to be that far removed meant you were now some kind of Other to either work towards common good with, or to fight with, but not to be considered part of the bubble of Self — is essentially correct. As a tree the races are fractal, and delineation ultimately arbitrary, as can be seen when you go in the other direction and the missing link Austrian Aboriginals are considered fully human, let alone another “race”, you need some other form of determining self or other that follows firmer principles of boundary making.

PC, in an unusual turn of events I don’t find your arguments that compelling. All of your examples seem far more accurately modeled to be as a result of geography and social orders favoring unfavorable types, which led rise to unfavorable mixing events, as a side phenomenon that made the situation worse as opposed to the other way around, the the terrible social order was caused by racial degeneration — though there is a feedback loop, it’s more accurate to say a man who has a weak body from lack of exercise, has that weak body from lack of exercise, rather than does not exercise as it is too difficult with a weak body.

The Hindoos fell into degeneracy, which led to mixing from the bottom up instead of the top down, as was happening in the Spanish Empire until the great tragedy of post-modernity. The Arabs are no different from usual, the Persians were always the ones of real cultural merit, and to this day, alongside the Turks, represent the best of the Mohammedan world (which is to say, we should veer away from that social order at all costs).

I find the success story of the Japanese in particular to be a result of the fractal feudal holding system that ran there for over 1000 years, the Japanese themselves being the product of a mixing event even in their self-conception. Men of good instinct and will to power held the reigns on biological direction, as opposed to the Han system of racing to bureacrat iron rice bowls determining selection of future generations.

All this to say that no, there shouldn’t be an indiscriminate melting pot into a yeastlike soup of beige life. Instead we need to hold fast to social orders wherein the best at parsing reality rise like cream on sitting milk, and that cream has the largest say in how exactly the next generation should be born.

I have struggled for well over a decade over questions of race identity. Whether it was on /pol/ trying to define what exactly is ‘white’ with autist HBD types, or with leftist social constructionists in complete denial of material biological realities, it is an immensely impossibly tied Gordian knot to untie. Murdoch Murdoch even touched on the problem with the episode ‘Pure 100 Bavarian Phenotype’. Any objective reading of the Nuremberg Laws sees the insanity of trying to define ‘race’ in biological/legalistic/logical terms. Imagine trying to apply that to America with all the additional races and ethnicity and religions. Good luck*. Any objective observation of DEI sees the insanity of trying to ignore ‘race’ in biological terms. Imagine Just look at all the wreckage ignoring biological reality has caused.

Fuck the Gordian knot. Is it in the spirit of that which is ‘The Good, the True, and the Beautiful’ (GTB)? That is what God rewards. Is it in the spirit of that which is ‘The Evil, the False, and the Ugly’ (EFU)? That is what God prunes. Spirit is not biological, and yet it is biological. For now, it escapes our ability to logically, consistently, and concisely categorize in any materialistically principled and consistent manner even though it has massively materialistic impact. Only through definitions of spirit can we define it. A deeply religious question. HBD autism kowtows in the presence of the Lord, and demonic leftism has no principled argument. Everyone (that matters) can recognize ‘GTB’ and hate and fear ‘EFU’. The right appreciates GTB and the left recoils in hate/fear/shame while immersed in EFU.

Forming the core identity based on GTB principle creates enough leeway to allow for the 1% outliers from certain demographics to be recognized and incorporated without opening the flood gates to all, and likewise ends any accusations about ‘hypocrisy’ and ‘social constructionism’. Christendom wasn’t overly concerned with materialistic biological definitions of identity. Christendom was majorly concerned with GTB, yet created largely homogeneous societies even within the circumstances of mixing. Christendom conquered the world. Materialist biologism ironically reversed eugenic Western race assent and opened a portal to demonic spirits.

*Hakan Rotmwrt was insightful and funny, but a legal code he does not make.

Which is, of course, exactly the point. Brazilification is a civilizational failure mode. There are no examples of higher orders emerging in spaces with high demographic ‘churn rate’, as it were, to be found anywhere. Empirically, higher orders emerge in situations where it is difficult for alien elements to intrude and disrupt the processes that are at work over time developing the higher orders.

My point is isolation is neither necessary nor sufficient for the arrival and maintenance of higher man. Take for example, the Welsh and Irish, whom never reached the peaks that their near neighbors the English managed. Yet the Welsh and Irish were in a real sense more racially pure, had less disruption to their evolutionary process. The English a beige soup in comparison, made up of a hodgepodge of settler-invaders over millennia.

Take the Greeks, whom did fine in an extremely multi-ethnic environment, up until they abandoned the principals that allowed them to become the Greeks. Or the Scyths, whom arose on the vast open roads connecting all the peoples of Eurasia. It looks to me like the great phenotypic diversity of the Aryan cum European was a result of all this mixing and pruning and mixing and pruning, in the harshest possible human evolutionary environment.

Look at the Korean, much closer in blood to the Japanese, but somehow more close in temperament to the Han. They imported the civilizational styling of the bureaucrat race, and so bred the temperament into themselves.

Brazilification is now seen as a catastrophe, when before it was seen as an uplifting, an accomplishment. When elite fertility fell, the natural ‘elite overproduction’, in the true sense of elite, not someone well trained to bark the right words when commanded, failed to exert downward pressure, and the gene flow reversed itself. The reason Brazil is not something like Haiti is because of the centuries long success of the Iberians.

There is no where on the planet isolated enough to protect ourselves from degenerated mating rituals, and there is no where so overpopulated by peoples that should be doing nothing other than managing the collection of coconuts that cannot be well managed by a people with proper mating rituals and concomitant social order. So we should first and foremost restore and preserve the process that creates and sustains the product, rather than attempt to shrinkwrap the now-smelling remains of the last harvest.

>Aryans[…]bred themselves into the Aryans.

Certainly. What is odd though is why positions along these lines have here and there been restated in other words as if they were arguments against what is being laid out here, rather than an isometry by other means.

Take heed of where their descendants thrived, and where they declined, and how.

Arguments like ‘I am not racialist because I have simcity fantasies about engineering new races from multifarious clay’ is not an argument against racialism because it is racialism, the whole point of the objective, just with the can kicked down the road a few blocks. Friends would benefit from clarifying their thinking.

‘In the misty pasts there were mixing events amongst the nihonjin ancestors… and contiguous populational pools stretching for millennia afterwards.’

It does seem like there is an abiding fetish in the idea of inclusively and inoffensively and ecumenically dissolving a broad mass of mysterious humanity into a new uniformity you may make make anything you like out of, a mode of thought that has been occasionally recurrent in many spheres across history; a specific attraction *because* of an exotically vagarious substrate, not in spite of it – even if any other theoretical working base without problems of incompatible outbreeding depression to deal with to such degrees at the outset would serve as well or better – an almost alchemical proposition to the power of a universal solvent, by which any form of creation may just as easy be shaped to any other form; the seductive appeal of Progress, in those hoary days of 18th century modernism.

Truth is over-determined; for something that is true, you may find multiple vectors by which you may arrive at its truth, through which its truth is demonstrated. Goodness (and beauty) is the same way. These things aren’t mutually exclusive, but are nesting ordinals in the greater fulsomeness of natural law. But it does seem like whenever the topic comes up, some folks start arguing with the thought-process of a straw fednat that exists in their head rather than with the person in front of them.

Make no mistake, I want racialist results. The problem is how to get them with elite/warrior/nomad male sexuality taken into account and how to do so without opening the floodgates and going down slippery slopes. The Aryans, Greeks, and Romans all clearly managed to create and maintain genetic quality despite influxes of Sabine women into their gene pools. Their meritocratic selection was guided by worship of the spirit of youthful vitality. You see it in their statues of young powerful men.

The point I wish to make, is that GTB Christianity is how you breed excellent racialist results in an environment of genetic influx without getting hijacked by Gnostic leftism.

Pseudo-Chrysostom is correct to notice a fetish aspect, although the selected quote is not entirely correct.

It does seem like there is an abiding fetish in the idea of inclusively and inoffensively and ecumenically dissolving a broad mass of mysterious humanity into a new uniformity you may make make anything you like out of

The bulk of men throughout evolutionary history have always perceived a woman shortage in the sex market. The natural solution was to expand the market with Sabine women. Proto-humans did it, Aryans did it, Greeks and Romans did it, and we do it today though we have many polite colloquialisms for it to avoid offending modern sensibilities. So ingrained in our evolutionary psychology and even physiology, it would be weird if a Sabine woman fetish did not widely exist, and indeed all the literature on sexual fantasies acknowledge it does in both men and women. Genetic qualities of the group inevitably becomes more and more stretched out on a spectrum.

And this is where it becomes difficult to hold a racialist position as a matter of principled government. Elites and warriors and nomads of a successful tribe are always going to have easy access to that sweet Sabine pussy. Edge cases are created at a social level where it becomes very politically hard to argue against it as a principled position. Attempts to do so quickly devolve into HBD spergs endlessly yapping over esoteric truth, but they can never agree on what exactly are the boundaries. Worse, by holding a position in the logic of the material, you have to deal with ever encroaching leftism in the form of Social Constructionism, itself a vehicle for Gnosticism. Not only are you not going to win that argument with logic and reason against literal demons, you may find many of your elites infected merely by engaging with it. That 1 in 1,000,000 African bitch is going to get added to your elite/warrior gene pool sooner or latter and she’s going to fuck up your entire reason based racialist social order.

Christianity has no such problem. Take note of Christian monarchies. The aristocracy and kings were often extremely mixed ethnically, yet it did not devolve them. Their offspring today remain ethnically ambiguous. In some ways one might classify them as the first ‘whites’. Those of a generally pan European heritage.

Interesting, Fidelis. So “regression to the mean” is a bad meme that somehow occupied the minds of many in the HBD-sphere and the WN-sphere? Yeah, I can see that. Thanks for the redpill.

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