The verdict that female jurors gave in the Lindsay Clancy murder trial reveals that most women are now in the mouse utopia behavioral sink.
In the mouse utopia, females abandoned their nests or attacked their own pups
Social withdrawal, maternal failure, and reproductive cessation.
We though it was maybe just a few overly noisy Karens. The jury verdict reveals it is most women.
You know the mouse utopia story — mouse population rapidly expanded to two thousand mice, and, despite having plenty of room, food, and nesting material, social pathologies resulted in failure to reproduce, and the population collapsed to zero.
So, what went wrong for the mice, how and why did it go wrong, and how to what extent, and in what ways, does it resemble what is going wrong for us?
The limiting resource that the mouse population hit was not room or territory, it was defensible territories. There were only a limited number of locales with a single defensible entrance where an alpha male mouse could exclude all other adult males, and enforce order and cooperate/cooperate equilibrium in that locale.
Mice born and raised in nests in such a defended and orderly location, mice born and raised in patriarchy, were normal mice, mice with families, mice born in a family, and initially, when population was low, all the mice were born in a family, and then founded families of their own.
As the population grew, it came to pass that there were many more mice than locations that could be defended. So a few male mice that could and would defend a location found themselves with larger and larger harems. Most male mice found themselves with no territory of their own, which drastically limited their mating opportunities, and even the female mice were hard up to find a harem lord willing and able to provide them with a safe environment to give birth and raise their pups.
What ran short was not food or room, but room under patriarchal authority.
Well, the increasing population of male mice with no territory of their own were not happy with this situation, the harems got overwhelmed, and suddenly there was no longer any defended territories, thus no longer any mouse families, just an atomized horde of strangers.
Territory defense collapsed under sheer numbers, and the losers stopped fighting entirely. They just… withdrew. Huddled in groups, ate when food came, never challenged anyone. The females took over the aggression the males abandoned, and in doing so they stopped being mothers. Pups scattered, unraised, untaught. The young never learned how to be mice. They never learned courtship, never learned aggression, never learned anything except how to groom themselves and eat.
Calhoun called them the beautiful ones. And they were, physically. Clean coats, no scars, no wounds from fighting. Serene. They’d eat, groom, sleep, and die. They had no interest in mating. No interest in anything. When the population collapsed to a handful of survivors, they were past saving. The beautiful ones couldn’t be bothered to breed even with paradise empty and waiting for them.
The collapse of property rights is not what happened to us, though something somewhat like that happened in Venezuela, but what does resemble what happened to us is the collapse of patriarchal authority and the patriarchal family. No patriarchal family mean, in practice no families at all, or no real families.
And the collapse of patriarchy among the mice led to social pathologies that much resemble those we are now suffering from.
The word “harem” has two meanings — the most common meaning is a household of two or more wives, but the other meaning is a household, or portion of a household, where all adult males but one are excluded, and an adult female can let down her hair and wear sexy clothes, or no clothes. A harem in the second sense is a location where a man can keep a harem in the first sense.
What the mice needed to be normal was harems in the second sense. The population did not stop growing because there was a limited supply of harems in second sense, because there was still plenty of room and nesting material for additional females and additional nests in each harem. The population collapsed because social change abolished the harems.
Yes, we have a terrible housing shortage, artificially created by building regulation (I speak from experience, having attempted to build a house, and from the experience of people I know who have built houses) and this is undoubtedly severely checking family formation, for us as for the mice. But the real obstacle, what killed off the mice, and what is killing us off, is that patriarchs are no longer able to have their way.
Feminism is a symptom, not a cause. What economic incentive is there for women to marry and make babies instead of, say, assembling toys in a factory in Shenzen? None, and there never was. Pressure to marry and make babies always came from the family, and when young women are separated from their families, that pressure goes away.
The economic incentive for women is factory work sucks. Historical factory work may have been an upgrade over agricultural labor, but that does not apply today. Trying to fit birth rate collapse into an economic explanation doesn’t work because it affects every single class in society. The richest man in the world was Jeff Bezos (4 kids) and his wife divorced him.
That’s my point: Marriage and children are not and never were an economic decision. Factory work was not fun, but it brought in money that families desperately needed. In the old days of small family farms and cottage industry, girls worked in close proximity to their parents, and fertility wasn’t a problem. Early textile mills promised farmers that their daughters would be kept in dormitories under tight supervision, but a man never guards someone else’s property as carefully as he guards his own.
This sounds like a “woman have no innate drive to have sex or children, they only do that because society expects it of them” kind of worldview.
I’ve read somewhere that the Calhoun experiments are questionable because he started with already inbred mice. Don’t know if true or how much it influenced the outcome of his experiments.
The Utopia experiment has yet to be reproduced despite multiple attempts
I’ll second Redbible the mouse utopia experiment is obviously true because we see the replication of his results before our very eyes and the debunkings were commissioned by progressive academia because they didn’t like the implications of the mouse utopia experiments.
Lindsay Clancy is the avatar of the crazy mothers who have inverted maternal instincts (its sort of semi normal in nature for mothers to kill their young at birth if they have some instinctual que that judges their child unfit but its not normal for them to kill them later) Clavicular is sort of an avatar for “the beautiful ones”. I feel like a somnanbulist myself half the time.
Still not a replication of the actual experiment. Yes, there are things in human society that have a similar “vibe” to them, but vibes aren’t science.
Millions of Instagram/Facebook/Tiktok comments, videos, posts, and recordings of posts of women lauding Clancy, arguing for, and endorsing her exact behavior, however, will mysterious remain a ~ViBe~ if referenced to Anon [with it requiring you fisk the entirety of all data everywhere, all at once] Certainly even a scintilla of anthropological, sociological, real-life advocacy evidence exhibiting the madness possessing women to commit child sacrifice would elicit a similar response. Nor would Carthage, Catalhoyuk, myriads of backwater African cultures, the actions of female lions in prides, birds inhabiting other birds nests, etc., past muster…
Hang yourself, communist faggomatronic.
This is such a classic mainstream liberal technocratic Catch-22 move:
>There’s no evidence for what you’re saying; it’s ridiculous, false, and unscientific. You have to stick with my politically useful null hypothesis, for which I haven’t provided any evidence, either.
The “politically useful null hypothesis” in this case being that the burden of proof rests on the one not trying to prove a negative, which is a well established principle of logic.
>What? I should gather that evidence? That would be a waste of time and resources, the matter is settled.
All of your post is strawman, but this is the part that is most obviously stupid. Of course you should go gather the evidence. My whole complaint here is that you haven’t done it! But there is literally nothing stopping the experiment from being replicated by anyone of modest means, if it is replicable. The fact that it has not been replicated despite credible attempts is extremely suggestive of whether it is possible to replicate.
Sounds like a bunch of crap to me. Progressivism and Feminism don’t like the implications they see in the study, and need to disprove the study, or the study will disprove them.
Same thing happened with Rind et al. in that the study suggest that maybe sex does not inherently cause any trauma in child abuse cases, and that all of the trauma can be that shows up can be explained by other well known and documented abuse issues (like beatings, threats, etc.) The one of the biggest thought crimes of Rind et al. is that little boys are traumatized by getting ass-raped, but that little girls are not traumatized by having penis in vagina sex. (Which is in agreement with Jimian principles.) The other big thought crime is that the moral argument and foundation for the age of consent is bunk, and that little girls would not be traumatized to be married off young.
Because of the thought crimes, the study became the only study ever to be denounced by congress, and it was attacked for not considering the implications of what they published. The study was also attacked for not controlling enough on the data, though a later study attempted the same research, with said “missing controls” and got the same result, but didn’t try publishing as publicly.
Which can all be summarized as Commies and SJWs always lie.
I’ve never bothered posting before, and lurked for years, but are you saying that it’s functionally ok to rape young girls and marry them off? Maybe my coffee hasn’t kicked in yet. Which study are you specifically referring to? Muhammad?
The lived experience of men who have adult female preselection and plausibly pass as alpha, and the lived experience of nine year old girls, resembles that of Maui (retired hero with a wrestler body) and Moana, nine year old girl. Disney depicts Moana as relentlessly pursuing and harassing Maui, and Maui as repeated throwing her out. See also Beauty and the Beast, and Wreck-It-Ralph.
If you discover a nine year old girl in bed with a adult man, the overwhelmingly most likely scenario is that she crept into bed with him when he was drunk and sleep, and rode his morning woodie to a happy awakening and a big surprise.
Every woman and every girl wants to fuck the man who is six foot tall, has a six figure income, and a six pack abdomen. Which is one man in two hundred. So every woman and every girl is going to creep out and fuck mister one in two hundred, frequently starting at an absurdly early age.
All girls and all women will swear on stack of bibles and sincerely believe that when they were very young they were only sexually attracted to age appropriate males, and all their friends were only attracted to age appropriate males, but all the princes except one in Disney princess movies are adult males, almost all of them have social roles of a middle aged male, and a significant minority are middle aged or older. Also, recollect the audiences at Mick Jagger concerts, similarly the audience for the movie “The Labyrinth”. David Bowie was thirty eight years old when they cast him to play the Demon Overlord in a move designed to get nine year old girls beating their pussies.
The Labyrinth is, like Disney princess movies, what is euphemistically called a “children’s movie” — meaning a movie for female children who are experiencing a mysterious itch in their genitals.
Women and girls appear to be genuinely unaware not only of their own sexual preferences, but even of their own sexual conduct “It just happened.”
Female domestic, sexual, and reproductive services have to be the property of a man. Women must be de-emancipated, because if allowed choice, they make very bad choices. A minority of very young girls are uncontrollable, and have to be married at an unreasonably early age to a man who can and will control her.
Given how badly Disney bowderized faerie stories back in the day such that Tolkien despised what the company has done. Why would they be reliable scripts for human sexual behaviour?
Aren’t they quite subversive in how they treat those subjects?
If you are referencing the Brothers Grimm faerie stories that hasn’t been watered down or Tolkien himself. I think that would be far better sources for that kind of thing. The Old Song of Roland or the Odyssey/Iliad in its original sources.
Or the venerable Church Fathers like St John Crystostom.
Homer, Tolkein, and the rest were not writing for nine year old girls.
The Brother’s Grimm were writing for nine year old girls, and what do we see? We see it is fairly Disneyesque.
Disney princess movies say something rather disturbing about all those little princesses, and the Brother’s Grimm say something even more disturbing about all those little princesses.
In the Brother’s Grimm, we see female intrasexual competition, preselection, and nine year old girls with an excessive interest in adult males.
Disney censored their stuff that said step families are apt to be cheerfully murderous. They censored their stuff that was about female intrasexual competition. But they did not expurgate nine year girls having an excessive interest in adult males.
Which of the Brothers Grimm(pre-disney) Faerie stories come to mind? And where might I find direct translations for those particular examples?
As for your other point of early marriage asuming girls have those desires before the completion of puberty.
One must also consider the health impacts of said unreasonably young marriage. Are they made for it physically sufficiently enough at that age, could their bodies handle pregnancy without health issues like obstetric fistula and so on?
The very Teleology is written in body functionality. And I believe that prior to the completion of puberty. Sexual union and subsequent pregnancy results in suboptimal outcomes of health.
The health impact of unreasonably early *pregnancy* is bad. The health impact, primarily on the children, of unreasonably late pregnancy is arguably worse, and yet no one seems to be worrying about unreasonably late pregnancy.
Ideally a girl should start popping out babies at age nineteen or twenty, and finish at age thirty. Why is no one complaining about women who intend to start popping out babies at thirty or so?
Why is everyone fine with almost every woman adopting a life plan where she starts popping out babies at age where it is less healthy for the babies, and riskier for her?
If a girl gets married at nine and starts popping out babies at fourteen, the popping out babies at fourteen part is undesirable. If, however, she fucks mister one in two hundred at nine, and then never gets married, or only gets married at thirty four, that is worse.
If we are strangely unworried by women marrying at thirty, we should not be worried by them marrying at nine with intent to get started on popping out children as soon as physically possible.
Ideally, all women should get married at nineteen or twenty or so. For many women, however, this would require raising them on the farm and not letting them wander off from the farm. In the city it is likely to require chaining them to water heater until they reach the age where the can be introduced to suitable suitors.
Ideally women should not be allowed to engage in early sex. If, however, they do engage in early sex, they need early marriage. And in the modern environment, it is hard to prevent them from engaging in early sex.
Marriage at puberty — twelve thirteen or so — should be common. Yes, it is optimal to not start popping out babies till nineteen or twenty, and a arguably a society where most women got married at nineteen or early twenties would be better, but even if marriage in early twenties is usual marriage at twelve should not be rare, and marriage at nine should not be extraordinarily rare.
If you want a society of marriage where woman get married in their twenties, you have to be very stern about denying them access is to Mister One-In-Two-Hundred.
Observe that fertility started collapsing at about the same time as pop stars found themselves besieged by screaming pre-teen groupies.
So we’ve been doing it wrong for millions of years, have we? It’s a wonder that the human race survived at all.
What do you think the ancient Hebrews were talking about when they declared that a girl becomes a woman at age 12? It wasn’t for getting driver’s licenses or voting in elections. It was correctly viewed as the typical age, or in biblical times perhaps the latest age, when a girl would start to display sexual characteristics and should very soon afterward be married and having children of her own.
A girl’s peak fertility is around 14-15; it’s just a bizarre twist of fate or evolutionary quirk that her peak sexual attractiveness is closer to 20-22. Perhaps there are more likely to be pregnancy complications at the younger end, but I’d say that is for the husband to decide, not you and not some childless bureaucrat.
And really, what is the point of all these moralfagging hypotheticals, other than to justify obscenities like age-of-consent laws enforced by childless bureaucrats and spinster shrews? The question of “should she” is a category error; the only question that matters is “will she”. Because yes, she will, if the opportunity presents itself. If you’re the father, your job is to deny her those opportunities until she comes of age, and when that’s no longer possible or practical, get her married off ASAP so that she doesn’t waste those peak fertility years cruising for alpha dick and getting railed by cads.
There’s nothing to be gained by arguing over whether men “should” impregnate younger women. If repressive AOC laws haven’t stopped it then obviously the problem is not with men being drawn to those girls. It is because those girls are drawn to certain men and are more persistent and persuasive than you seem to imagine, as anyone familiar with the groupie phenomenon can tell you.
In the wild, birds eat berries before they’re ripe. They have to, because it’s a race in which every bird must eat the berries before other birds do, so the idea is to eat them not when they’re optimally nutritious, but the very moment they become barely digestible.
Note this happens in the state of nature where there are no laws. Humans, where property rights are secure, do not do this; we eat things when they’re ripe. That requires social technologies – laws like enforced property rights, conventions like stealing being frowned upon, physical technologies like fences to secure crops, etc.
It’s game-theoretically inevitable that where there’s no, or weak, social tech that deals with human female reproductive behavior, berries will often be eaten before they’re optimally ripe.
In this case, as our host notes, the relevant behavior is coming from both the birds and the berries themselves, but the basic point is the same.
I do remember that there was one anecdote in early modernity or middle ages of a dad insisting that consummation had to wait until age 15. And Mediaeval Europe generally forbade cohabitation until 14 even if marriage age permitted was earlier. So I think back then people did recognise the health risks of too early pregnancy including maternal death.
As for women marrying at 19-22. I think it’s simply a result of not enough established men to go around in addition to women needing to save up money to be able to afford a dowry.
To clear the market women are forced to delay marriage. Leading to the European Marriage Pattern without the moralfagging except for absolute monogamy.
>In the wild, birds eat berries before they’re ripe. …
Excellent comment.
It’s good to see this blog still hammering this point as the zeitgeist catches up to the more digestible redpills.
There’s just one itsy bitsy problem with your theory: they do like the implications, and promoted the fuck out of them for decades. They just have a totally different interpretation, with totally different implications, c.f. the “behavioral sink” being triggered by overpopulation thus implying a need to reduce population, as argued in The Population Bomb, the more than 50-year-old “best selling” book based significantly on Calhoun’s work.
Just have a gander at his wik page, Wikipedia representing the progressive hive mind consensus on all subjects. They have very little negative to say about him, or his experiments. They’re not trying to suppress or disprove anything; to them, the experiment says exactly what they want it to say. At best, they might concede that maybe some of his work got misinterpreted or taken out of context. No dedicated “criticism” or “controversy” or “political views” sections like you’d find for someone like Charles Murray.
This openness to interpretation is the problem: the experiments were so numerous, long, inconsistent, poorly designed and even more poorly documented, that anyone looking at them can infer almost any conclusion they want. Jim says it’s territory and/or family structure. Severian is sure it’s caloric surplus. Progressives say it’s pure population density. All of these or none of these can be inferred because controls were absent, replications still largely nonexistent, and this happened in just one “universe” out of we don’t even know how many, but presumably at least 25 given his labeling.
It’s not a bunch of Karens throwing shade, it’s skeptical scientists, the same ones who became skeptical of climate alarmism and the Millgram experiments and other progressive “scientific” shibboleths. I really don’t know if Jim is onto something important here, maybe he is and maybe he isn’t, impossible to say because the original study was ass, and building cogent logical arguments on top of ass still gets you ass.
Mouse utopia is analogous to the Wakefield study on vaccines, i.e. even if it’s pointing to the truth (and Wakefield turned out to be just the tip of the vax injury iceberg), the overreliance and overhyping of one really shitty study can actually set the course of legitimate research back decades, because no one with both money and sense wants to get near it.
Fact. I’m living through this now and to negate this nonsense, takes vile and disturbing behavior of the patriarch as they will never give in as they run to the state.
Women are being wicked and worshipping Moloch, arguing their right to post partum abortion, and its all because the heckin resources are too good for patriarchy.
You have a perfectly clear case of religious frenzy demon worship spreading like wildfire, a crazed demon face woman as the archetype centerpiece, and you write about the mouse utopia and its lack of patriarchy? Are you serious?
This is the poster child case for the need to burn down the demon shrines they put up and march the faggot priest class — and the whores they lay in front to gather new male followers to castrate — down the street before throwing them into a trash compactor, in the name of cleansing the place of a demon infestation, real or metaphorical.
This is just going to ratchet further into hanging the toddlers off the bronze demon statues they keep putting up, I am not sure what the prog narrative for why post partum abortion is extra special if done in front of the totally-cool-transgressive bronze demon statue they put up in the park or by the courthouse, but I can tell you if we don’t start throwing the people advocating and spreading the demon worship into trash compactors, this will be the certain result.
Absolutely nothing triggers mouse utopia conditions like the modern compulsory school, though, and those most aggressively in favor of it are [*men like me and every man I know who is reproductively successful*]
I doubt it. It is Karens
Dystopia: Flock Cameras Spy Your Every Move
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49726586
You’re not living in a Utopia, you’re living in an anti-Human Dystopia, an intentional one, formed from harnessing Dark Evils.
You need to shut down all the people and politicians who created and maintain it.
All these Progressive stressors, including Politicians and the garbage they keep rolling out, are contributing to the auto-shutdown of the Human Reproduction-Drive.
It is plausible that different strains of mice will react differently. But that a creature’s reproductive capability may be lost or impaired if the ancestral environment of successful reproduction is impossible to accomplish is completely expected and unsurprising.
Wild type mice reproduce in harems (in the second sense of the word harem. Remove the possibility of having a harem, failure of reproduction is unsurprising
That worldview is correct; human female mating instincts are about a million years out of date. Women stopped evolving when men started making their mating decisions for them. Whenever this patriarchy was removed, women stopped reproducing until it was restored, or their bloodlines went extinct.
Jim, when I try to reply to a specific comment in Firefox or Chrome, the ?replytocom=number part of the link gets deleted and my comment drops to the bottom of the page.
I’m using Palemoon here, and it seems to work okay.
@franknorman, I’m replying to your comment. Let us see if it works for me.
Yes, the reply button seems borked.
What happened was that my blog was being hammered by a poorly written scraper, which if a blog post had four hundred comments, would treat each reply-to url as a separate web page, and if a web page had four hundred comments, would download the entire web page and all the comments four hundred times. It was using thousands of IPs, so I could not rate limit it. So, to enable it to finish downloading the entire blog, I turned off reply-to functionality.
It looked like a distributed denial of service attack, but was just a buggy scraper. Once it finished downloading the entire blog, it went away.
I am fine with scrapers that download the entire blog from time to time provided that they respect the rate limits and download efficiently. It downloaded inefficiently, which resulted in it being rate limited to death, so it beat the rate limiting with thousands of IPs, instead of fixing its download process.
Until the scraper finished running, I could not login to the blog, because the admin web page would always time out.
Elon Musk and his missions and teams are among the top10 most important things happening for humanity right now.
They decided to do things, organized a team, and did it.
AI is another, obviously going to result in massive tech advancement by being able to index, sift through, search path through, and iterate upon, all human data, and then dispatch further work units to go do research to fill in any gaps.
Wiping out the Left, and transitioning Govts/Politicians/Society towards a more Minarchist and Pol-Agnostic and Liberty rather than Progressive and “Muh Democracy” way of thinking, is also going to be vital to humanity.
But no one has organized anything to do this, even the “Right” is traditionally ineffective in organizing anything because “Muh Independence”.
Thus the Left destroys in 12 years what it took Humanity 100 years to build, and will take at least 40 years to restore.
Humanity simply must organize against the Left.
The “Right” must organize against the Left.
To impose limit, such that if the Left wishes to be Socialism, Marxism, Muh-Gibs… they may do so, upon communal land that they buy, and voluntarily, without forcing anyone else, and under the overall arch that Minarchism has provided for them and everyone else, who are also free to do as they wish internally.
Voluntary intentional societies upon the land.
Yet none with “right” of Govt or “Muh Democracy” to impose or “vote” upon or against the Liberty of any other.
Efficiency of Freedom will go way up.
Forks will be tested.
Advances will be had.
Yet nowhere shall the Leftism be wrought upon any who do not wish it anymore.
https://x.com/JackPosobiec/status/2099837375903846533
https://x.com/KenPaxtonTX/status/2099530350854582468
> Voluntary intentional societies upon the land.
Balajis describes the Free Network State, Intentional Communities which do not require Physical Formation upon the Land, but generally depend on and operate under some degree of a Minarchist Environment… or at least as Minarchist in which an Agorist Network State can form and operate until a more Free Minarchist environment evolves. At the present time all Network States are necessarily Agorist, until the Laws/Regulations of the Excess State are reduced unto Minarchism.
Intentional Communities often exampled by
– Amish
– Various religious cults
– Social Communes of the older Leftist Revolution/Hippie variety
– Ancapistan’s, Gupta, Seasteading, Free Keene, etc
– The recent White-only landed housing share-corporation movements, most of these are forming under “Trad / Back to the Land” themes
Why is China’s birthrate so low? Because all the village girls moved to the cities to make easy money as nightlife hostesses. Now the CPC is cracking down — hurrah!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbYBv0r4nmE
Behind every strong independent woman is either a government program that shouldn’t exist, or a gaggle of lonely simps paying a lot and getting very little.
Tossing out most government programs and cracking down on “compensated nightlife” will solve the career girl problem. But that does not solve the problem of the girls and all the woman fucking Mister One-in-Two-Hundred. For that, we need a state crackdown on female sexual misconduct. And in particular and especially sexual misconduct by extremely young girls. Instead of jailing every male in the general vicinity of a misbehaving underage girl, the girl should be shotgun married.
That only addresses the social environment that results after her Father has let her out of the house before marrying her off.
Visit your local youth night spot if you want to observe that environment.
It is the “Fatherhood” in general that has been allowed to fail, thus resulting in the weakening of the Civ.
Thus it is the Fatherhood that also needs disciplined, re-trained, and re-mentored until it is capable of self-operating on the necessary Ancestral Code again, thereby restoring the ongoing Civilizational Success.
Somehow the Successful Fork began loading and running errant code modules.
Yes, some of this was injected via exploit into the upper layers.
But the ROMMON is still there.
The RAPE of your own daughters, all the MURDERS, the DECLINE… Ok, so now go trigger your own reload from pristine sources.
There is a whole lot of feminist propaganda that Afghanistan is Hitler Nazi Nazi Hitler Nazi. Governments around the world are sponsoring terrorist operations against Afghanistan, and it is the most sanctioned country in the world.
But if you watch Youtube tourist videos, it turns out to be 1950s American patriarchy backed up by state power when push comes to shove. The social status of women and role of women is about 1950s America, the legal status is lower than 1950s America in that the cops will return a runaway daughter or wife (after a not very sympathetic judge hears why she ran) but the legal status of women is still way higher than in 1800AD France and England.
Governments around the world are so enraged by this that they are sponsoring the murder of women to protect them from patriarchy.
> Governments are so enraged by this that they are sponsoring the murder of women to protect them from patriarchy.
No Women, thus no strong Patriarch Men with Sons as Knights, thus Leftist Govt gets to continue. Govts (in reality Leftism’s Pols) view this as a win, according to their calculation.
But in reality they’re gambling Nature’s Decline Game by murdering the Ovaries and Men and Sons that even their own Lefty Civ needs to survive. Not to mention replacing them with Gay/Trans/Lesbians, all of whom rapidly descend the genome into non-successful reproduction.
You have to calculate beyond the current generation.
And act within the current generation to ensure the future generations survive.
That is what the Left isn’t capable of doing.
And what the Right, or at least the Agnostic Civ, the fork that has been continually rapidly advancing for 1-2-3 thousand years, since say Greece/Rome or so, has lately refused to organize and do. Thus it is experiencing the observed decline.
> 1950s Afghanistan
Afghanistan is very good at survival long term, it has figured out the solution to the Woman Problem, a basic level of Food Tech necessary to feed offspring at even War-Replacement rates, and knows how to stack stones to construct a fine abode.
But the Islam has always inhibited advancement, and will continue to do so. Its ROMMON has a SecureBoot that does not allow much of any advancement to run beyond version 1.1, while the rest of the world is more or less on version 2.9, or maybe even 3.x or greater.
One can denote the failed Forks by observing Creation/Invention/Recursion vs Adoption/Use.
In the Islam, and the Negro, and rest of 3rd world… you see the *Adoption* of cars, not the *Invention* of cars. You see the Adoption and *Use* of Electricity and Satellite strewn about randomly everywhere, but not the Recursive Invention of Technology. You do not see the Invention of Garbage Reclamation Tech, thus the streets of the Failed DNA Forks are still littered with Pooh, even though its members are talking on Cell Phones. The Failed Forks prioritize short-term Usage (Cellphones) over long-term Investment (Pooh-Removal).
By the time the West had the 1950s, complete with Cars and Math and Rockets and Sears-Roebuck pre-fab mail-order houses, and Women still happily at Home tending the Children and Garden… the Islam still had nothing but Women at Home.
The Natural Destiny of the Islam Fork is to not make it past the Great Filter, because it doesn’t have a Creative Light, nor a loader that can recursively incorporate the Free Creation necessary to do so in the limited time left available to pass the Great Filter.
And because the Islam is far slower, and destructive to all others (even the Hindu are far more advanced at SpaceX than the Islam is, because Light-Mode), Islam must never be allowed to Hijrah past even the Earth Filter to Mars.
You need to get the Natural merger of these two sorts of things to Mars
1) 1950s Reproductive Family-1.0
2) Technology
That combination is only available in primarily the Western-Civ form/culture of the Fork, perhaps even with adoption of some agnostic Chinese characteristics.
That video looks to me very much like a state crackdown on female sexual misconduct. Thousands of girls losing their nightclub jobs, going back to their parents’ villages, and considering marriage proposals.
Mister One-in-Two-Hundred fucks many attractive women but he doesn’t compensate them, so when those girls lose access to simps, they can’t afford to stay in the city, despite hotel rooms costing as little as five USD per night.
The rats grew tired of a static life and needed mobility. Mobility is like fresh air. You must never allow yourselves to become complacent. A general once said, “Fixed fortifications are man’s monument to stupidity.” This experiment, this rat-utopia, proves it.
Find for yourself a reliable vehicle so you don’t wind up trapped like a rat.
sailboat being the ultimate vehicle.
great fun. get out away from all territorial waters (and weather reports). stunning freedom amongst the chaos of the sea.
two days later battling a hurricane. chaos stops being so abstract.
Ecclesiastes 4:12
A person standing alone can be attacked and defeated, but two can stand back-to-back and conquer. Three are even better, for a triple-braided cord is not easily broken.
1. have a gun and plenty of ammo
2. bring friends with guns and more ammo
3. call in air support
No one should comment on this topic before reading Calhoun’s original paper, and one fact he emphasized is that there was no escape from his mouse utopia. The normal response to overcrowding is for surplus population to flee the colony to locations with less food and fewer places to hide from predators. Most die, but a few get lucky and discover a new promised land.
> Mouse experiments
Much starker is to realize the experiment the Earth and DNA is running regarding your own survival.
> response to overcrowding is … to flee
Critically important to recognize that since dawn of Human, all Human groups have had ample free land to flee into, and sufficient resources therein to thrive upon.
Even if a land had other Human groups already in it, they were very sparse and thus readily shifted around to avoid conflict, depletion, and starvation.
Now, every single square meter of land on Earth is “owned” by someOne/someGov who will ultimately murder you for “trespass”, even if such land is unused, never been used, won’t be used in the “owner’s” lifetime, and/or is totally inhospitable to all other life but the most hardy/advanced forks of the Civ.
Even the Ocean’s are no longer free, good luck strapping 100 cargo ships together and declaring your own Seastead Nation, they’ll sink and murder you for dumping 1/1,000,000th the shit in the sea that comes out of their own rivers of filth, garbage, and chem/nano pollution.
Point being… no more free land to flee to, because Over-population and Over-owning, both by legacy forks of the Civ. Thus War.
> Overcrowding … surplus population
That is what you get when you violate Nature’s Harmonius Relationship it has with the Lesser Forks of DNA that were already scheduled by Nature therein to die off and be superceded by the prevailing more successful/advanced forks of Life.
Yet you foolish Suicidal Empathetics didn’t recognize that and began feeding a Million Negro’s of the various Lesser Forks, thus giving them unnatural amounts of free calories, which their failed fork of the Genome then used to to do the only thing it actually did know how to do… outbreed you and become a Billion Negro’s.
Now the lesser forks artificially expanded into much more land, and you took your sons out of their housing, and imported the Negro’s into your land to fill the units, all while wasting your resources to give a 2 Million year old Failed Fork everything you have in 50 years, lol.
And you still continue to, in as many ways, artificially feed and up-tech your own Replacements competing against you… so how fucking stupid is that.
Now China has your ass in a real hard tech-pop jam, along with the Negro’s you fed, and the Islam you keep Importing and refusing to confine within its borders, and the Left you refuse to shut down, and the Women you refuse to own.
These Lesser Forks are lesser, they by Nature’s design and result are incapable of ascending over top of you.
Even Women are meant by Nature to be your Helpers.
So your problems are of YOUR OWN DOING, and are very serious.
Yet you REFUSE to ORGANIZE and do anything therein to correct your errant ways.
This is very bad.
You are turning your winning fork into a failed fork, overnight.
So you need to drop the silly insistence on not-organizing because muh independence, and get organized to save your own Civilization.
Because right now all you’re doing is sitting on your collectively independent disorganized plan-less non-executive asses thus ensuring the other forks of DNA wipe you out.
Your own inaction has gotten so bad that you sit on your cuck asses and watch and masturbate while your own DAUGHTERS are TAKEN, RAPED, IMPREGNATED, and MARRIED by the competing forks.
That’s how bad you have let things get.
You have only yourselves to blame.
You are the only ones who can fix it.
And you have VERY LITTLE TIME left to GET ORGANIZED and fix it before the other forks wipe you out by numerical superiority alone.
Your Great Cities, bastions of the Civ, are all being actively conquered now by the forks you helped replace you.
So we’re talking less than single digit years here.
Wars that last weeks or months are decided by surprise, boldness, tactics, and technology. Wars that last years are decided by economics, and wars that last decades are decided by demographics.
World War III has already progressed into the second stage, which is fatal to all liberal democratic socialist welfare states. You can’t expend scarce resources feeding useless eaters when your enemy devotes all its resources to winning the war.
As Pax put it, “The war with Iran has gone bad in the best possible way.”
The war with Iran has gone bad in the best possible way. Western Europe, which has become a cultural and political enemy is now in deep economic distress and is now warning about crisis. Simultaneously we continue troop drawdowns in Europe. Risk of a major direct conflict with Russia is declining, and Europe under what can cheekily be called economic sanction is now more likely to have regime change in our favor.
Iran also exposed the reality that a direct conflict with China is not an option we want to consider, and thus risk there is declining. The final necessary step the US must take is nuclear use in Iran for a quick resolution. We’ll retain control of global energy flows, and shatter the “Rules Based Global Order” in one strike. Unfortunately, Trump will likely balk at taking the final option, but such a choice is really just the cherry on top.
Some wishful thinking there.
Because direct conflict is something that only the USA decides whether or not to have? All wars happen because Americans want them to? Really?
There are other players in the game, and always have been.
Not at all what I said, but the wars American policy makers wanted to get directly involved with, Russia and China, prior to the Iran debacle were definitely wars of choice which would have gone much, much worse. Now there real talks of pulling back at the institutional level which for the longest time was undermining Trump.
I’ve previously said at the opening of the war with Iran that it would help de-escalate the risk for America of direct conflict with Russia and China. So far this appears to be happening.
Now I seem to recall you’re European, and for sure, with what you’re governments have been doing on the continent, risk has been going up, but that’s your problem and not mine, and in fact your risk is in American interests.
I agree with your assessment that war with Iran has gone bad in the best possible way, but I do not see risk of a European war with Russia as problem because the European part of NATO simply does not seem to be able to wage war with Russia for more than a few days. The EU does not yet have the infrastructure to drafts large parts of the population and Germany could not even find volunteers for a brigade in the Baltics. Maybe the infrastructure for a wide spread draft will be created in the next few years, but for now I don’t see it.
As long as wide spread draft is not possible and Europe lacks capability to hurt Russia in any meaningful way such a war would also go wrong in way that is beneficial for Europe. Europe would get new governments that would be more aligned with Russia’s interests and therefore aligned with Russia’s state religion.
From “Bennett’s Phylactery” blog, here: https://blog.exitgroup.us/p/mom-is-working-for-moloch
“The question is: why is Mom working?
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The rightist answer, basically, is that women are stupid and wicked.”
Bennett is an idiot. The rightist answer is ‘the government is subsidizing her’ and ‘the government is subsidizing the underclass to murder people which drives up home prices and mandates a two income family’.
It is literally the Christian position that unowned women, and women let on a very long leash, are wicked by nature, so it would make sense for a RW position to be, roughly, ‘women are displaying stupid and wicked behavior’. Mr. Dolan here has written well on the nature of what we face, and backed it with similar Old Testament understanding:
The strangest thing about the camps was that they were either literal “altars” of rock, or else bowl-like “nests” stuffed with decade-spanning archaeological strata of garbage.
In the Book of Kings, whenever a righteous king takes power in Judah, his immediate enemy is “the groves” (asherim) and “the high places” (bamot):
These are hidden sites of self-mutilation, ritual prostitution, and child sacrifice in the name of Ba’al, Molech, and Asherah — the gods of the tribes that Israel neglected to eradicate in the conquest of Canaan.
Weak kings allow these altars to fester in the wilderness; truly wicked kings bring the whoredoms into the cities, and eventually into the holy place of the temple.
It struck me, as we pulled down the rocks and bagged the garbage, that the homeless camp is an altar to our enemies’ gods.
https://blog.exitgroup.us/p/the-groves-and-high-places
Therefore, this is very ideosyncratic. Even stranger, according to Mr. Dolan this article is “3X more popular” than the next in sequence.
https://x.com/extradeadjcb/status/2102125438856544457
Astroturf? Kevin are you there? Are they logging your keypresses?
Looks like enemy aliens took over Bennet’s Phylactery.
If you look at American movies made between 1950 and 1963, and tourist videos from Taliban Afghanistan, the level of patriarchy is roughly similar, and the level of fertility is roughly similar.
It is just that simple.
Afghanistan is not nearly as patriarchal as the political activists make out, it is not nearly as patriarchal as England or France was in 1800. It just tolerates and supports the normal male and female sex roles, as 1950s America did.
To bring total fertility back up to four or five, we just have allow men to be men and women to be women, and to punish female sexual misbehavior as we punish male sexual misbehavior.
Repeating myself:
High fertility subgroups in America send their girls to their own educational system. It looks like the most critical variable is schooling during early female puberty.
The “” are me quoting a different part of Bennett’s substack. Bennett isn’t asking “why are women working”, but “why is Mom working”. Saying unowned women are evil isn’t helpful when we are talking about the only subset that includes owned women! If you are curious what he says about unmarried women, he ignores them.
I could eviscerate Bennett more, but he says
“But Moloch is in the business of eradicating all these relational assets — converting them into explicit transactions that can be booked as revenue, analyzed, and taxed.
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In other words, everything we want from each other is (or can, at any moment, become) a commodity and a one-off transaction.”
For non-Americans not understanding why this is insane, prostitution is illegal in the United States and restrictions were the opposite of ‘things are becoming more transactional’ (prostitution was more tolerated when fertility was higher and less tolerated in the modern era). It gets crazier when you remember OnlyFans exists- women are legally allowed to sell everything (including renting out their womb!)… except sex. You can’t even claim him missing this is a mistake as one of the issues of the day is the Epstein files, which are the records of a pimp.
The article you quote claims we cannot restore patriarchy except by widespread poverty and by keeping women barefoot and illiterate. Which claim is absurd on its face.
He suggests that we cannot have Afghan levels of patriarchy except with Afghan levels of poverty, and even Afghanistan cannot keep patriarchy because its living standards are improving. But in the quite recent past, in the 1950s, we did have Afghan levels of patriarchy.
I read this article as “Hail fellow right winger, all us fellow right wingers are agreed upon X, Y, and Z” — where X, Y, and Z are deranged lies emitted by the father of lies to ensure that we have no choice but to go along with the wet dreams of the alphabet soup of the oppression olympics and the aristocracy of victimhood that he piously decries.
He suggests we just clean up the homeless off the streets. Yeah, but while cleaning up that lot, what about gays and female sexual misconduct? Let us clean them up also.
Women shit testing male coworkers in the workplace need to get the same response of social shock and physical coercion as we would give to a man feeling up the boobs of a female co-worker.
He complains that the demands of the aristocracy of victim-hood are unfulfillable and ever escalating — while giving us no choice but to continue with all our existing concessions, because the arc of history bends towards justice.
He conflates permitting females to learn to read and write with coeducational classes for nine year olds in putting a condom on a banana.
We should have sexually segregated education for children older than six, with female teachers for girls and for boys under six, and male teachers for boys older than six, and we should teach nine year old girls to read and write without teaching them to put a condom on a banana.
The part Bennett wrote is a setup->takedown (with the takedown quoted below)
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“But if we take this correlation between women’s autonomy and fertility at face value — if we simply ask, “What is life like in countries with a sustainable TFR” — that really is, ballpark, the kind of world we would have to create in order to right the demographic ship.
Besides which, a naive interpretation of the correlation between women’s education/employment and fertility implies an absurdity: that if you give women any practical or legal autonomy whatsoever, having children is (almost literally) the very last thing they will willingly choose to do.
Does that make sense historically, or biologically — or even just intuitively, if you’ve had any passing personal contact with women?
Historically, women who were substantially wealthier and more literate and more autonomous than Afghan or Namibian women have managed to raise children in large numbers — not just psychologically exotic “trad wives”, but at scale, and as a rule.
Colonial New England was one of the most literate and educated societies in world history up to that point (Puritan women were not as educated as Puritan men, but better and more broadly educated than men anywhere else in the world) and also one of the most hyperfecund, with births per woman approaching biological limits.”
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He isn’t doing entryism either- he explicitly states he isn’t right wing:
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“The (unserious) implication from the Right is that if society could just get back to Putting These Broads in Their Place, then everything could get back to normal.”
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His actual beliefs are nonsensical. I’ve been pointing it out in bits and pieces in the thread, but he is kludging together two essays from other substacks (neither of which is about fertility) for his explanation. The first half avoids patriarchy, but the latter half has coherency nose dive and the more you look at it, the worse it gets. I’d say LLM, but you can trace a coherent thought and its dance around thoughtcrime in the first half.
S quoting Bennet:
But of course, obviously if society could just get back to putting these broads in their place, things would get back to normal.
I am old, I remember how things were. If women back then, back when TFR was collapsing, but had not yet collapsed, behaved as most women routinely behave today, they would have immediately encountered apocalyptic and forceful repression. We have just gradually gotten used to behavior that has slowly become ever more shocking and ever more outrageous. The unthinkable becomes normal, then becomes the norm, then the next unthinkable becomes normal.
Not only are we completely serious about making this claim, but anyone who doubts this claim is making an extraordinary counter claim which requires extraordinary evidence. Where is this extraordinary evidence? Where is any evidence whatsoever?
Support for the right’s claim is all of human history, plus prehistory. Where is the evidence for the counter claim? Where is the evidence that putting these broads in their place would would not result in restoration of fertility?
Sex for women just is not fun, and pregnancy is horrifying and traumatic, unless it is an act of submission, respect, and obedience, not fun unless she is commanded to have sex and obeys.
Vestiges of the old system survived as late as the 80s and 90s. He must be either too young to have experienced any of it, or too prog-brained to commit the thought crime of remembering.
Specifically, high schools would have a general curriculum based on the three Rs and then an “elective”, which was in theory something you could choose, but it was just understood by everyone that boys took shop and girls took home ec, making the classes not only de facto sex-coded but also de facto segregated.
This was obviously miles away from the 1950s system, but it’s a tiny glimpse of functional patriarchy that’s still within living memory for many. Boys taking the girls’ elective would be branded as dweebs or homos, and girls taking the boys’ elective were sluts or feminists, obviously with a few minor exceptions here and there. The point is that social attitudes and peer pressure, for at least a few decades, filled in the gaps that legal authority could no longer cover, and it tells us a lot about what patriarchy considers the “ideal” system to be.
Men don’t want completely illiterate, incompetent wives, especially in the internet age. We want them to be able to research things, communicate electronically, and recognize obvious scams. We need them to be able to keep a budget and have some inkling when they’re being ripped off. These are general skills. But they should also be learning domestic skills, like how to cook and mend, which is something the schools used to teach in place of feminist theory and Marxist economics. The millennial/zoomer women depending on DoorDash for day-to-day survival, whether or not they are getting laid, are functionally whores because they have nothing to offer other than a warm hole.
Women can also learn classic literature and art to help attract a particular, intellectual type of man, and I think most guys see nothing wrong with that, but we also think it shouldn’t be forced on them if their talents lie elsewhere. For example, athletic couples and creative couples both seem to have a pretty high success rate, much higher than generic intellectual couplings.
What don’t we want girls learning in school? Feminism, obviously, but more generally postmodernism, protest culture, Marxist economic and historical theory, deconstructions of classic literature and art, pseudoscience with puffed-up titles like “social psychology”, and obviously, how to put a condom on a banana. These have no value to either the job market or the sexual market, and our society is burning a terrible amount of resources to pretend that they do.
As with most problems in the Human meatspace, the Woman Problem was PsyOpped into existance by Dark Actors manipulating things to their own benefit, selling both the Man and the Woman a load of believable happy bullshit, which they both happily consumed.
Result:
Women began actively directly competing against Men in Politik, Biz, War, and Home… and making extremely costly civilizational errors due to female lack of Million-year genomic Natural experience in those spaces… and refusing to have children due to their newly-instructed “need to compete in all spaces as equal independents” leaving no free resources in the formerly nuclear family left to raise them.
And of course the Dark Actors who dreamed it all up have profited handsomely in both Power and Money.
The Men are no longer strong and supported by a Wife back home.
The Females are injecting competing noise into spaces long-reserved by DNA for the Males (where the long-proper Civ-survival reproductive signal encoded in DNA is for the Males to grab such unowned Women and take them back to their long-term mating nest).
And the finances of the former family unit are being wrecked due to encouragement of competing strategies there too, combined with strip-mining both with hyper-optimized AI-enabled extraction of every last dollar of family profit, through forcing both to sign home-loans at dual-earning price points.
Among other diabolical schemes being rolled by the Money-Power cabal, the Kalergi Krew, the WEF, and many more evil dastards.
To the point that they’re now losing profit due to schools being destroyed, cities falling to Mongrels and Moslems, and populations dropping like a stone.
To fix this mess any number of things need done
1 – Execute the Dark Actors purveying all the PsyOps and scams
2 – Restore the Civ with a happily adoptable counter-PsyOp
3 – Purge back out all the incompatible ideologies and people
Part of that can be accomplished by punting them off into their own Network States and Intentional Communities, while the Greater Agreed Minarchism rejects incorporating those as a universal valid, for being obviously foisted and forced upon the Liberty of others by mob-rule of “Muh Democracy”.
Birth Certificates and Driver Licenses were scams too, allowing Dark Power to vacuum up and logically and physically extract entire families and nations as numerically registered slaves, from birth to death. You need to abolish both of those Central Systems. Crypto now allows everyone to establish and maintain their own interoperable identity as they deem useful.
It was orchestrated by dark actors but the supposed rational was that females were supposed to be a massive talent pool of untapped intellectual power and productivity and it just didnt work.
Women ironically did better doing light physical work during WW2 under male supervision trying to make them do intellectual work has been an unmitigated disaster.
Nuts.
Educated white women were infertile in the 1920s, fertile in the 1950s. Urban fertility in the 1920s was abysmal — all the kids were being born on the farms, even though the population was predominantly urban.
Watch movies created between 1945 and 1963. America was patriarchal. Corporal punishment of a misbehaving wife was normal and normative. Divorce was extremely difficult.
Then watch some tourist videos from Afghanistan. Afghanistan is way poorer than 1950s America, but the level of patriarchy is much the same.
You can have patriarchy without illiteracy and poverty. And you can have female emancipation and demographic collapse with illiteracy and poverty — the infamous longhouse culture.
The level of female emancipation was roughly similar in 1920 and 2000, and the level of urban fertility roughly similar. During the gap between first wave feminism and second wave feminism, education and wealth improved, female emancipation dropped, and fertility rose.
From the tourist videos, I get the impression that corporal punishment of misbehaving wives was more normal in 1950s America than it is 2020s Afghanistan.
The part Cloudswrest quoted isn’t Bennett’s position; Bennett goes on to say
“Historically, women who were substantially wealthier and more literate and more autonomous than Afghan or Namibian women have managed to raise children in large numbers — not just psychologically exotic “trad wives”, but at scale, and as a rule.”
Cloudwrest didn’t pick up on Bennett’s actual views because Bennett’s position is really, really stupid.
“In my travels since, I have learned that this woman’s situation is on the more “privileged” end. For the average woman, the job is less cozy, and the ratio of daycare-expense-to-salary stops penciling out at two kids instead of three.
That would be enough to explain the Birth Rate Crisis all by itself.
In a two-income paradigm, the average American family can afford something like 1.4 kids — so that’s how many kids they have.”
Yes, he is blaming cost of living, ‘commodification’ and even references Mediations on Moloch. I wasn’t joking when I said Bennett was an idiot. You could put it down to crimestop, but he both treats dual income household as Molochian competition AND states:
“Young families now pay a $300K mortgage premium to live in the Good School District to ensure that their children won’t be the victim of a violent crime.”
Maybe the thoughtcrime for Bennett is ‘patriarchy is good’ or ‘our rulers hate and want to exterminate us’?
>Maybe the thoughtcrime for Bennett is ‘patriarchy is good’ or ‘our rulers hate and want to exterminate us’?
It’s the latter. Bennett is a Mormon at the end of the day, and Mormons base their identity on being the most American of Americans. To them, that means loyalty to the US Federal government. Understanding that that government is their greatest enemy is too much of a psychological blow for them to accept. Mormons are going to continue as the deep state’s best and most effective servants until the very end, no matter what happens, which is a crying shame.
The problem for Mormons is that the deep state will happily use them up and wipe them out. Replacing the prim and proper White Mormons with a bunch of dusky invaders is going to result in their faith being wiped out. They are starting to lose their unprincipled exception, and they are beginning to face the same fertility crisis. That is going to turn Mormons from nice White people with some strange beliefs into unruly brown heathen savages and then no one is going to have a problem crushing them.
I’m disappointed by that quote from Bennett’s Phylactery. Usually he’s not that much of a goddam moron.
Obviously there have been plenty of societies in which females were literate and fertility was above replacement. What an irritating blurt of idiocy.
He is a Mormon. I was interested in the Exit project he has going, but once I realized that he was Mormon, I decided against joining. Useful posts sometimes, but politically unreliable.
Among them, today’s Afghanistan. It is simply untrue that the Taliban bans female education. What it bans is whore school.
The girls are not denied reading, writing, and ‘rithmetic. What they are denied is coed classes in putting a condom on a banana.
Simps, redditors, and soycucks are more dangerous than Karens. The only thing Karens can do is screech at you. It’s the army of no-pussy whipped males who instantly materialize whenever you want to court or discipline a female who are the real issue. Their bloodlines are slowly dying out, but they’re sure as hell not dying out fast enough. The Karen problem could be solved by putting women in trash bags and remanding the most shrill and annoying ones into nunneries, but the essence of the simp problem is that eventually you will run across a simp bigger, stronger, or more politically powerful than you. The GOP is full of them. Hell I went past a church today that had every flag I could think of flying except the flag of America. Not just India somehow they even had the flag of Bangladesh up. What can mere mortals do against such essential faggotry?
This not my experience. I have had several encounters with police on these issues, and every time they were apologetic and complained they had to investigate the matter because a Karen was on their backs. And then they would report back to the Karen, “nothing to see here, we are moving right along”
Of course I am a lot better at talking to cops than most men, but if you get into trouble on these matters, it is not that the cops are pussy whipped, it is that you acted guilty and furtive, or you pissed the cops off, or you scared them so they arrested you and then charged you with whatever was handy.
Cops are easily scared, because they frequently have encounters with men who might kill them. Don’t scare them.
any Idea about Nostr it say
is decentralized communication open protocol
is it legit or in the pocket of GAE
When last I checked, Nostr was great, but it has several potential vulnerabilities to political power and to spam.