I saw Vance accepting the defeatist frame that it is hard to deport eighteen million illegals. No it is not hard. Tony Abbot in Australia faced a smaller but similar problem, and here is how he handled it:
Everyone has interactions where you have to present your ID: Cops, welfare, hospitals, and so on and so forth. And they then run your ID through their computers. Which in Australia, if you are an illegal immigrant or have an expired visa, then automatically notifies the border control computers. Whereupon border control computer asks the cops to hold you around till the border patrol shows up, or border patrol shows up at the hospital or wherever.
Then, without bothering with lawyers and judges, the illegal is detained until he can arrange a plane out.
Suppose, alas, he cannot arrange a plane out. “Alas, I conveniently lost my passport and all my ID, not to mention there are a whole lot of people in my home country who want to kill me on sight.” Then he stays in detention for a while. And then a while longer. A fusillade of letters to judges are all ignored. Even though Tony Abbot has been out of power for a long time and his policies have been systematically white anted, judges still will not touch the border patrol. Tony Abbot left the judges with lasting trauma.
This usually jogs the illegal’s memory and he discovers he is entitled to reside in some country that is not Australia.
Suppose it does not jog his memory. Quite possibly there is prison, or some very angry people, awaiting him at home. When Tony Abbot started expelling people, there were a huge number of such cases. Then he gets put on a boat, shipped somewhere, and dumped some place that is not Australia. If he is being unhelpful, this is likely a place where no one wants to be.
I like Aidan’s plan. Deport the violent criminals first, the obvious gangsters with the huge MS tattoes, the type of guys Bukele locks up, who just look so obviously orcish on the TV screen, someone you really do not want for a neighbor. The media will scream, and people will laugh at the media. And when you deport everybody else, the people are already used to the media screaming and will not pay attention.
That, and cutting funds will lead to a lot of self-deportation. That’s because it is easier to be poor in a poor country than in a rich country. Speaking the language, relying on family networks back home. I have seen it at the ass end of Eastern Europe, people somehow surviving on $150 a month, collecting firewood, keeping chicken, digging potatoes, getting their clothes used, free from the Red Cross. Their survival is simply not cash-centric.
One travel blogger wrote about it about Brazil. It is amazing that very poor people can have a fun life if only they completely ignore every modern law. Some dude sets up some chairs in his yard and sells homemade moonshine and now it is a “bar”. No permit, no taxes, no rules. Some widowers bring and sell cheap food and now it is a “restaurant”. Someone brings musical instruments, and now they can dance. And dancing is about fucking. Amazing they can do this on very little money, simply because they ignore all laws and regulations and that government is wise enough to let them.
Looking at it this way, many immigrants are flat out bribed to stay, and they are still not 100% happy about staying, because the above scenario really cannot be done in NY. This should be easy to end.
The issue is, in the US, the conservatives themselves are not big fans of an ID regime or a kind of a surveillance society. They are paranoid of the government, and generally don’t like the government to know too much about them. You hear the stories about conservatives really disliking the idea to eliminate cash, because they think if everything is a bank transaction, the government will know too much.
Perhaps it can work if combined with airport style racial profiling. Just tell the cops not to ask white people for ID too often. Cops always profile instinctively anyway. Just try driving an expensive car in poor clothes even while white. They look for patterns.
Tony Abbot did not introduce any new ID checks. He just leveraged existing ID checks. Every state and quasi state institution already routinely checks IDs. He just plugged in RPC calls between their computers, border control computers, and border patrol computers.
Illegal immigrants always show up in the hospital emergency room looking for free room, board, and medical care. The hospital always wants to see ID to figure out who they can bill. And what do you know? Turns out they can bill the Border Patrol. They apply for a driver’s license, they get caught. They drive without a license, and at a traffic stop, if no license, the cop wants their id.
Nearly 2/3 of Arizona voted for Prop. 314
So yes, they are big fans of ID checks which work and don’t require any massive surveillance state.
It’s remarkable, that SB1070 passed the state house and senate with similar vote margins over a decade ago, and despite massive demographic changes to the state, the people overwhelmingly don’t want massive migrant hoards flooding the border with drugs, welfare, and low level warfare.
SB1070 only failed because of federal pressure. Prop. 314 has occurred at the beginning of regime change. All signs point to results being very different this time around.
Significant white pill.
Obviously any white or black or asian or hispanic guy or gal driving any car speaking perfect natural born american english… they’re american… they got that perfect english by being in american schools in america from a very young age with true blood white american kids… so just say sorry you’re just out trolling for illegals, and let them go without asking for ID. Pissing off americans with ID checks does no one any good. Intuition and Discretion are huge here.
Roll up on a tatooed TDA/MS13 type, Afro/Carib, China Spy, or a Muzzie, none of which speak a lick of english… yeah, you’re going to have to see some papers or they’re getting sent to the repatriation camps until they produce.
Same thing if anyone comes in for services. Sure, fix up any immediate life threatening blood and bones type injury that day, but after that they’re off to the repatriation camps.
No need to beat around the bush or be politically correct about anything. Your country, the USA, simply can’t economically sustain such generations of non-productive non-inventive non-accelerative peoples, and your White-Christian culture can’t sustain the violent incompatibility of Islam, and your advantages can’t sustain the losses to Chinese Spies.
You don’t allow your Gold and Bitcoin to be watered down, so don’t allow your nation to be either. You lose when you do that.
Most all multigenerational Christians can be accepted.
Tell migrants they’re welcome to apply when they’re back in their own country at their US embassy therein.
You’re out here doing a great service to the country…
– Deporting Muslims who by definition and command of their Quran and fake prophet Muhammad are covenant bound to Invade Outbreed and ultimately physically Conquer you from within. There is exactly NO situation in which a MUSLIM is EVER loyal to America or Americans PERIOD, and there is no safe number of generations either. Don’t believe it??? Go learn from Christian Polemics what’s actually in the Islamic texts, go get 10 Muslim “friends” for 10 years and see what they start acting and letting slip out their mouths. You’ve got Minarets bleating Adhan all over Michigan, Wisconsin, Ohio, and elsewhere in the US (Canada and London have already been lost to Islam)… those are NOT Church Bells you hear, they are markers of territory they have captured from you, from which they vocalize their further submission and enslavement contracts, and death for resisting, upon you.
– Deporting everyone else who is nothing but a worthless leech upon America. They don’t have any money, skills, brains, language, or health… multigenerational poverty… same as you see in the American ghettos of Democrat cities. They need to be shipped back to their own countries so they can Make *Them* Great Again for themselves. Instead of accepting their do-nothing-to-fix-anything mentality into this society. They should be revolting their own countries instead of fleeing into and dragging other countries down.
– Now, except for Muslims all of which are explicitly 100% bad for America and must be deported, some of the ‘illegals’ are actually here fully set on mission of succeeding for themselves and family. They’re not just border fishing for whoever will get them citizenship and free shit. Those types are pretty obvious from interviewing them and can be put on the Americanization, Englishization, Christianization, Work and Biz and School, path to citizenship.
– Birthright Citizenship MUST BE STOPPED.
– Familial Linked Immigration MUST BE STOPPED.
– Marriage Linked Immigration MUST follow same path and timeframe as everyone else, but can be granted non-permanent Marriage residency work school etc until the period of years for Citizenship is done. Sham Marriages must also be stopped, if they can’t give each other tongue kiss in the interview, and are found not to be cohabiting, it’s a scam, and if they divorce before citizenship years, that’s a mandatory interview, else right back they go to where they came from.
And on that subject
– Taxation and Voting of US Citizen Expats living abroad MUST BE STOPPED.
While you’re at it, remove the Jews from your Media and Banks, once they find out they have to do real honest work for a living like everyone else instead of being paid to Propaganda, and thieving Money from you at extortion rates and fees, they’ll leave too.
Disincentivization is HUGE, you need to make their own countries look like FAR BETTER options than staying in the USA. The GOVT HANDOUTS MUST BE STOPPED, and NO RIGHTS MUST BE GRANTED. Millions upon millions of them will leave the second that happens.
Inauguration day is cold, they’ll find their own homes and families in Mexico and CentralSouthAM a far warmer original homeland than the disincentivized streets of the USA. The bridges over the Rio Grande will be packed solid with Illegal Aliens voluntarily headed south.
ALL GOVT and GOVT PASSTHROUGH TO NGOS funds MUST BE STOPPED.
Then you can get back to accepting a limited number of Immigration Seekers based on their Merit combined with the needs of the USA, and a number of true Asylum seekers based on the nature of their case.
Also, Visa, Residency, and Citizenship by Investment programs should exist. Same for anyone who can pay their own way from 5-10 years worth of funds, including CRYPTO.
Nobody is reading all that. Your script was written to elide the real inherent problem with immigration, which is that They Are Not Us. The only natural clientele of a state is its own sons, otherwise it becomes an evil malignant cancer unchecked by reason and caution. Anyone even mentioning “assimilation” of foreigners is either an enemy spy who deserves to be shot, or a traitor who deserves to be tortured in public and then shot.
No. Stop this nonsense.
>Obviously any white or black or asian or hispanic guy or gal driving any car speaking perfect natural born american english… they’re american…
Is that obvious? Are they American?
What even is an ‘American’? Is it the Anglo-American Puritans who nearly starved to death from proto-socialism and their many descendants who still terrorize us today from the institutional halls of power (may I remind everyone they were the first settlers here)? Is it the stock of the Founding Fathers? Are the Southern Whites of Scottish extract American, or they a conquered peoples suffering under the yoke of Yankee Imperialism? If the South can be American while also being a conquered nation, what of all those Native Americans, many of whom suspiciously look increasingly of European descent? Is the Mid-Westerner of German and Scandinavian extract American? The potato obsessed Irish who we’ve carved out an entire identity day for (St Patrick’s day)?
The American identity is all very abstract and synthetic, as is the nature of imperial identity, and as such is solely dependent upon power. We have consistently recognized that culture very much flows downstream of power, it should therefore be logical and non-radical to recognize that abstract and synthetic identity is also a product of power and is hence downstream.
Of course power has its limitations. No one reasonable would deny hard biological realities and all that… The difficulties of incorporating former African slave populations into the American identity continues to pay a dividend of blood and suffering with no end in sight (there are mostly peaceful solutions to this). North East Asians are different enough, yet similar enough, that they occupy a separate but (actually) equal status… though for how long that can last with miscegenation with the heritage American population… Quick question, are those children American?
At a certain point this all becomes a distraction from what good governance is all about. We should not get tied up with esoteric race knowledge or trying to maintain some abstract idea of what is American or what is white. Instead, focus on promoting what is productive, good, and Christian, and prune that which is not. Eventually you’ll create a new race, a truly American race that isn’t based on imperial power to sustain, and heritage America was somewhat on track on achieving that with the assimilation of various conquered peoples, but the progressive era tripped that up.
As for ‘Hispanics’, it’s become clear that identity group is the legacy of Spanish Imperial power that lingered on in a zombie state a few good centuries after their fleet got sunk by America. It’s abundantly clear that ‘Hispanic’ is about as abstract and synthetic as ‘American’ and that the reality of Florida and other election results, we should treat them with the same standard. Focus on promoting what is productive, good, and Christian, and prune that which is not.
Well, North America is a huge continent, and in the old world something the size of ‘The United States’ would certainly be a multi-racial imperial project; just as like Russia, or Austria-Hungary, or the HRE, or Byzantium.
It was Godly providence that teutonic men – the islanders and their cousins in mitteleuropa alike – met no peers that equaled him in the land, and fairly covered it with himself. Yet perhaps this state of affairs was also something of a vacuum on an esoteric level, with abiding tendencies towards multifarious kinds being sucked in as well.
It is the way it is because men made decisions to make it that way; in a similar sense to how men can decide to climb a mountain or amble down the slope into a valley.
Founder Effect – the politely neutral term for human speciation – has certainly happened before, and can be made to happen again. The Afrikaaners hailed from the Netherlands. But the Afrikaaners are not the Dutch.
Yes, and that race will probably have a few drops of East-Asian blood (white nerds in particular often have yellow wives) and possibly some other things, but for the sake of civilization, most of the genes in that gene pool should be white. And black genes in particular should be selected against, because even a few drops of black blood are horribly dysgenic and sufficient to completely destroy a civilization.
I don’t believe in “absolute racial purity” (which is utter bullshit and, as you say, a distraction from more important things), but Hajnal Line whites are the obvious and unmatched master race, and should not incorporate too many foreign genes into their gene pool, if the stars are to be conquered.
The Africaaners are a new white race. They are not Dutch. If we survive and win, we will create a new race in America, and, more importantly and dramatically, a new race on mars.
>Hajnal Line whites
Didn’t spring up from the soil. They were created by patriarchally determined selective breeding. In the Roman times, such people were largely considered barbarians who could barely build mud huts. They only rose to prominence because of Saxon blood. Where are they today? Are these people really what you want to preserve as they are today? Are those peoples today really the Hajnal Line whites of yesterday when they practice completely different breeding and have done for close to two centuries if not more? They don’t exist anymore. All that remains is wreckage with a few isolated spots of less wreckage progressing to more wreckage.
>should not incorporate too many foreign genes into their gene pool
Instead of being focused so much on where the genes came from. Be more focused on if those genes good or bad, if those gene arrived politely or hostile, and pruning the bad and hostile.
The European that conquered the known world only came into being from the Aryan conquest of old Europe. You are not Aryan though you may very well be of their heritage. We only exist because of eons of gene mixing with constant pruning, and it is those groups that pruned better that ended up better. It wasn’t groups that maintained complete genetic isolation that dominated.
We are headed to a future of accelerated pruning via vitro. We may already be there. We are men living among ruins, and we have to face what’s to be rebuilt is going to be different.
>We only exist because of eons of gene mixing with constant pruning, and it is those groups that pruned better that ended up better. It wasn’t groups that maintained complete genetic isolation that dominated.
There’s a remarkable correlation, though.
Peoples of the middle east are the result of millenia of empires marching up and down the land. Not a pretty look. Our vedic cousins in the sub-continent allowed far too much dravidianism to survive, a ‘technical debt’ their descendants have been paying for too this day. Japan has produced some of the finest folks this side of the tundra, and I dare say it’s not a coincidence they are on a waterlocked island chain. Et cetera et cetera.
In order to prune effectively, it helps to not have leaky boundaries; be it literally, or conceptually.
I think the core of Pax’s argument, that you cannot reliably form a synthetic tribe on racial principals — it’s notable that the Patrician’s stopped counting after 6 generations, to be that far removed meant you were now some kind of Other to either work towards common good with, or to fight with, but not to be considered part of the bubble of Self — is essentially correct. As a tree the races are fractal, and delineation ultimately arbitrary, as can be seen when you go in the other direction and the missing link Austrian Aboriginals are considered fully human, let alone another “race”, you need some other form of determining self or other that follows firmer principles of boundary making.
PC, in an unusual turn of events I don’t find your arguments that compelling. All of your examples seem far more accurately modeled to be as a result of geography and social orders favoring unfavorable types, which led rise to unfavorable mixing events, as a side phenomenon that made the situation worse as opposed to the other way around, the the terrible social order was caused by racial degeneration — though there is a feedback loop, it’s more accurate to say a man who has a weak body from lack of exercise, has that weak body from lack of exercise, rather than does not exercise as it is too difficult with a weak body.
The Hindoos fell into degeneracy, which led to mixing from the bottom up instead of the top down, as was happening in the Spanish Empire until the great tragedy of post-modernity. The Arabs are no different from usual, the Persians were always the ones of real cultural merit, and to this day, alongside the Turks, represent the best of the Mohammedan world (which is to say, we should veer away from that social order at all costs).
I find the success story of the Japanese in particular to be a result of the fractal feudal holding system that ran there for over 1000 years, the Japanese themselves being the product of a mixing event even in their self-conception. Men of good instinct and will to power held the reigns on biological direction, as opposed to the Han system of racing to bureacrat iron rice bowls determining selection of future generations.
All this to say that no, there shouldn’t be an indiscriminate melting pot into a yeastlike soup of beige life. Instead we need to hold fast to social orders wherein the best at parsing reality rise like cream on sitting milk, and that cream has the largest say in how exactly the next generation should be born.
That geography exerted substantial impact is indeed a pertinent part of the point. Shall there be consideration of what exactly the geography is doing, then?
The island of Formosa is quite possibly the most disproportionately impactful patch of fourteen thousand odd square miles on the planet, primarily due to the people living on it. Refugees and hard-core refuseniks of the communism that swept the preponderant mass of the rest of their kin up in its wake on the continent. Certainly a not insignificant selective filtration event if there ever was one – founder effects in miniature.
In the normal course of things, a waning polity is a vacuum that sucks in opportunistic conquest from without, fairly terminating whatever cyclic dynamics may have been at work along with the elite, leaving only peasantry as echos of what once was there.
>All this to say that no, there shouldn’t be an indiscriminate melting pot into a yeastlike soup of beige life.
Which is, of course, exactly the point. Brazilification is a civilizational failure mode. There are no examples of higher orders emerging in spaces with high demographic ‘churn rate’, as it were, to be found anywhere. Empirically, higher orders emerge in situations where it is difficult for alien elements to intrude and disrupt the processes that are at work over time developing the higher orders.
Things like the geographic topology of their environs made this a less entropically precarious state of affairs by simply taking the choice out of the hands of the principals involved in the first place. But of course, it’s all for the better if they know better.
I have struggled for well over a decade over questions of race identity. Whether it was on /pol/ trying to define what exactly is ‘white’ with autist HBD types, or with leftist social constructionists in complete denial of material biological realities, it is an immensely impossibly tied Gordian knot to untie. Murdoch Murdoch even touched on the problem with the episode ‘Pure 100 Bavarian Phenotype’. Any objective reading of the Nuremberg Laws sees the insanity of trying to define ‘race’ in biological/legalistic/logical terms. Imagine trying to apply that to America with all the additional races and ethnicity and religions. Good luck*. Any objective observation of DEI sees the insanity of trying to ignore ‘race’ in biological terms.
ImagineJust look at all the wreckage ignoring biological reality has caused.Fuck the Gordian knot. Is it in the spirit of that which is ‘The Good, the True, and the Beautiful’ (GTB)? That is what God rewards. Is it in the spirit of that which is ‘The Evil, the False, and the Ugly’ (EFU)? That is what God prunes. Spirit is not biological, and yet it is biological. For now, it escapes our ability to logically, consistently, and concisely categorize in any materialistically principled and consistent manner even though it has massively materialistic impact. Only through definitions of spirit can we define it. A deeply religious question. HBD autism kowtows in the presence of the Lord, and demonic leftism has no principled argument. Everyone (that matters) can recognize ‘GTB’ and hate and fear ‘EFU’. The right appreciates GTB and the left recoils in hate/fear/shame while immersed in EFU.
Forming the core identity based on GTB principle creates enough leeway to allow for the 1% outliers from certain demographics to be recognized and incorporated without opening the flood gates to all, and likewise ends any accusations about ‘hypocrisy’ and ‘social constructionism’. Christendom wasn’t overly concerned with materialistic biological definitions of identity. Christendom was majorly concerned with GTB, yet created largely homogeneous societies even within the circumstances of mixing. Christendom conquered the world. Materialist biologism ironically reversed eugenic Western race assent and opened a portal to demonic spirits.
*Hakan Rotmwrt was insightful and funny, but a legal code he does not make.
I am sympathetic with your trouble Pax. Though at the risk of coming off flip one might say this, itself, also demonstrates a point.
Men in your positions have often had precarious paths ahead of them in life throughout history. For observation of Divine Law in general to find itself in a tense relationship with personal interests in particular. It can be all too easy to see the attraction in acting as an agent for the opening of gates, the loosening of strictures, and the lowering of thresholds, for the abeyance of that most primal of human fears, that one find find themselves left out as well. In the worst case morph can it even into an anti-cosmic spite, anger at the world and the society around them and the people of their line for the circumstances of their existence.
What is to be done? It may sound ironic, but one of the deciding factors for the accession of edge-cases would be acknowledgements of the trouble with and demonstrated desire for not expanding edge-cases. People making those calls have to be confident they aren’t allowing slippery slopes or poisoned pills by making them. There is that tension again, between the demonstration of right thinking that merits inclusion, and the fear that right thinking would result in exclusion.
When Max Nordau wrote of Muskeljudentum, he was making a more or less explicit acknowledgement that his khazarian bretheren were suffering from the hereditary curse of millennia of selection pressures for evil, falsity, and ugliness. And the most obvious to him, and anciently reprised, corrective, was selection for warrior virtues. Energy, craft, manfulness, loyalty, dedication, foresight, fidelity, is all entangled. Your volitionary pursuits – and that your family – in the brotherhood of military service does you credit, even if in later days it is perverted by service to the great satan; just as well it can serve King and Country again.
My point is isolation is neither necessary nor sufficient for the arrival and maintenance of higher man. Take for example, the Welsh and Irish, whom never reached the peaks that their near neighbors the English managed. Yet the Welsh and Irish were in a real sense more racially pure, had less disruption to their evolutionary process. The English a beige soup in comparison, made up of a hodgepodge of settler-invaders over millennia.
Take the Greeks, whom did fine in an extremely multi-ethnic environment, up until they abandoned the principals that allowed them to become the Greeks. Or the Scyths, whom arose on the vast open roads connecting all the peoples of Eurasia. It looks to me like the great phenotypic diversity of the Aryan cum European was a result of all this mixing and pruning and mixing and pruning, in the harshest possible human evolutionary environment.
Look at the Korean, much closer in blood to the Japanese, but somehow more close in temperament to the Han. They imported the civilizational styling of the bureaucrat race, and so bred the temperament into themselves.
Brazilification is now seen as a catastrophe, when before it was seen as an uplifting, an accomplishment. When elite fertility fell, the natural ‘elite overproduction’, in the true sense of elite, not someone well trained to bark the right words when commanded, failed to exert downward pressure, and the gene flow reversed itself. The reason Brazil is not something like Haiti is because of the centuries long success of the Iberians.
There is no where on the planet isolated enough to protect ourselves from degenerated mating rituals, and there is no where so overpopulated by peoples that should be doing nothing other than managing the collection of coconuts that cannot be well managed by a people with proper mating rituals and concomitant social order. So we should first and foremost restore and preserve the process that creates and sustains the product, rather than attempt to shrinkwrap the now-smelling remains of the last harvest.
>My point is isolation is neither necessary nor sufficient for the arrival and maintenance of higher man.
Which was never my point either. In highlighting the fact that it is not a coincidence that China and Europe, the foremost centers of civilization to grace the globe heretofore, were on the ends of the continents, not in the crossroads between them, we highlight the *operating principles* the geography coincidentally helped facilitate, which you may or may not choose to profit from, wherever you may be.
On the other hand, the Aryan race originated in a mixing event. Hunter gatherers lived in the forests, became nomadic herders, and moved onto the steppes. The middle eastern farmers also moved into the steppes.
The steppes are in the centre of a vast continent, and have no natural barriers. The Aryans established a patriarchal fertile aristocratic society and bred themselves into the Aryans.
>Look at the Korean, much closer in blood to the Japanese, but somehow more close in temperament to the Han. They imported the civilizational styling of the bureaucrat race, and so bred the temperament into themselves.
The Korean is a tightly-chained demon. At his core is a deep, powerful, barely-controllable rage, kept in check by strict rules and conventions. Don’t forget who held the high score for more than 20 years until St. Anders reclaimed it for Team Aryan. When a Korean gets really quiet, start looking for escape routes.
>Aryans[…]bred themselves into the Aryans.
Certainly. What is odd though is why positions along these lines have here and there been restated in other words as if they were arguments against what is being laid out here, rather than an isometry by other means.
Take heed of where their descendants thrived, and where they declined, and how.
Arguments like ‘I am not racialist because I have simcity fantasies about engineering new races from multifarious clay’ is not an argument against racialism because it is racialism, the whole point of the objective, just with the can kicked down the road a few blocks. Friends would benefit from clarifying their thinking.
‘In the misty pasts there were mixing events amongst the nihonjin ancestors… and contiguous populational pools stretching for millennia afterwards.’
It does seem like there is an abiding fetish in the idea of inclusively and inoffensively and ecumenically dissolving a broad mass of mysterious humanity into a new uniformity you may make make anything you like out of, a mode of thought that has been occasionally recurrent in many spheres across history; a specific attraction *because* of an exotically vagarious substrate, not in spite of it – even if any other theoretical working base without problems of incompatible outbreeding depression to deal with to such degrees at the outset would serve as well or better – an almost alchemical proposition to the power of a universal solvent, by which any form of creation may just as easy be shaped to any other form; the seductive appeal of Progress, in those hoary days of 18th century modernism.
Truth is over-determined; for something that is true, you may find multiple vectors by which you may arrive at its truth, through which its truth is demonstrated. Goodness (and beauty) is the same way. These things aren’t mutually exclusive, but are nesting ordinals in the greater fulsomeness of natural law. But it does seem like whenever the topic comes up, some folks start arguing with the thought-process of a straw fednat that exists in their head rather than with the person in front of them.
Overall P-C is right.
Even if you don’t start out explicitly racialist like the HBD spergs on /pol/, when society is properly structured according to pro-civilizational principles, the end result — assuming, let’s say, that you (naively) invite in members of all races of mankind to participate in this game of assortation — will be a ‘race’ whose upper classes are rather white, whose middle classes are rather brown, and whose lower classes are rather black. Much like ancient Egypt, and not unlike the caste system in India. No reason to assume that (at the very least) 150,000 years of diverse selection pressures can be erased so swiftly by Modernity, and “regression to the mean” casts race-mixing with the inferior as overall a bad idea, albeit some edge-cases might be allowed if the circumstances call for it.
Now, one can argue that the formation of synthetic tribes need not be “explicitly” racialist. Hmmm, okay, but letting people fill their natural roles, and allowing freedom of association (and freedom of non-association), will result in a New Race that appears to have been crafted by White Supremacists who’ve been reading Lothrop Stoddard and Madison Grant, even though there was no such intention originally; racialism will assert itself de facto. Whether or not the synthetic tribe will be formed on an explicitly racialist basis, it will look very much as if it had been. So why pretend like it isn’t what in practice it is? Why pretend that you can, in a few generations of “pruning” and playing around with genetic engineering, do away with hundreds of thousands of years of divergent evolutionary selection pressures? The bulk of mankind are the rule, not the exception. When you practice mate choice, you choose your progeny’s preferrable genes; can’t society at large do the same?
There is little difference, in reality, between “Mars should be colonized mostly by whites” and “Mars will be colonized mostly by whites.” It’s pretty much the same thing, whether or not you allow yourself to acknowledge it. Might as well recognize GNON’s reality.
There is a big difference in implementation. And the latter implementation is going to be more successful.
Mars “should be colonised by whites” will result in higher race descended from whites, and a higher race descended from Han. Mars “will be colonised by whites” will result in a predominantly white descended higher race with a lot of north east Asian admixture.
Should whiteness, however it might be defined, not be a criterion (among, to be sure, many others) in the formation of future synthetic tribes? I don’t have a solid position on this issue, and I’d like to sort out the memeplex NRx is offering.
Observe churches that are somewhat plausibly Christian. They tend to be all white or all black. Much as you get spontaneous segregation at the lunch counter. If freedom of association, there is going to be a whole lot of racial association. It is a lot easier to have a cohesive group, if racially homogeneous. But, on the other hand, if you want to accomplish something hard, you want to include the best regardless of race — but not at the cost of the cohesion necessary to accomplish something great.
Han are going to settle Mars, and whites are going to settle Mars. They will be the best Han and the best whites. And their colonies will initially just happen to remain separate. But if nature takes its course, will not remain separate.
Thanks.
I believe that also addresses some of PI’s concerns. If meritocratic selection is genuinely meritocratic, will likely, as you say, “result in a predominantly white descended higher race with a lot of north east Asian admixture.” That seems reasonable and fair to me, and in line with the civilizational progression along the Kardashev scale which Musk desires and which NRx desires.
HBD is excellent for description. For prescription, probably wiser to focus on (highly selective) meritocracy after all, while acknowledging the value and crucial benefits of group cohesion. Which may be more or less dynamic in its criteria for member-inclusion, depending on the circumstances.
Make no mistake, I want racialist results. The problem is how to get them with elite/warrior/nomad male sexuality taken into account and how to do so without opening the floodgates and going down slippery slopes. The Aryans, Greeks, and Romans all clearly managed to create and maintain genetic quality despite influxes of Sabine women into their gene pools. Their meritocratic selection was guided by worship of the spirit of youthful vitality. You see it in their statues of young powerful men.
The point I wish to make, is that GTB Christianity is how you breed excellent racialist results in an environment of genetic influx without getting hijacked by Gnostic leftism.
Pseudo-Chrysostom is correct to notice a fetish aspect, although the selected quote is not entirely correct.
The bulk of men throughout evolutionary history have always perceived a woman shortage in the sex market. The natural solution was to expand the market with Sabine women. Proto-humans did it, Aryans did it, Greeks and Romans did it, and we do it today though we have many polite colloquialisms for it to avoid offending modern sensibilities. So ingrained in our evolutionary psychology and even physiology, it would be weird if a Sabine woman fetish did not widely exist, and indeed all the literature on sexual fantasies acknowledge it does in both men and women. Genetic qualities of the group inevitably becomes more and more stretched out on a spectrum.
And this is where it becomes difficult to hold a racialist position as a matter of principled government. Elites and warriors and nomads of a successful tribe are always going to have easy access to that sweet Sabine pussy. Edge cases are created at a social level where it becomes very politically hard to argue against it as a principled position. Attempts to do so quickly devolve into HBD spergs endlessly yapping over esoteric truth, but they can never agree on what exactly are the boundaries. Worse, by holding a position in the logic of the material, you have to deal with ever encroaching leftism in the form of Social Constructionism, itself a vehicle for Gnosticism. Not only are you not going to win that argument with logic and reason against literal demons, you may find many of your elites infected merely by engaging with it. That 1 in 1,000,000 African bitch is going to get added to your elite/warrior gene pool sooner or latter and she’s going to fuck up your entire reason based racialist social order.
Christianity has no such problem. Take note of Christian monarchies. The aristocracy and kings were often extremely mixed ethnically, yet it did not devolve them. Their offspring today remain ethnically ambiguous. In some ways one might classify them as the first ‘whites’. Those of a generally pan European heritage.
So too it will be on Mars, a vast place with a dry land area equal to Earth. White and Han will each take a hemisphere and do their own thing, never merging into blissful hapa-topia. Because of the language barrier, engineers will communicate only when absolutely necessary, e.g. maintaining airlock compatibility in case someone accidentally lands on the wrong side of the planet.
White Mars and Han Mars won’t need to pool their best minds because surviving on Mars will no longer be a hard problem, and all the best engineers are still born on Earth because of its vastly larger population.
Tech advance comes from a tiny minority of a tiny minority. On mars, high tech or die. Mars will have a population where a majority is similar to what on earth is a tiny minority. Random genetic recombination will suffice to produce a much larger very smart fraction. In the third and fourth generation, geniuses on mars will vastly outnumber geniuses on earth.
If radiation doesn’t scramble their DNA, the Mars-born will have an average IQ possibly as high as 110. Not genius level because of mean reversion. This means that the first hundred Mars babies will not be geniuses, but the first 100,000 might yield one or two. Getting the average IQ up to 120 would require many generations of tyrannically enforced selection.
And what for? Geniuses are good at solving hard problems, but the problems they solve stay solved, and living in a Martian habitat module becomes no more difficult than living in a Russian apartment.
Unless Earth becomes such a bureaucratic socialist shit-hole that its geniuses all emigrate to Mars, Martian geniuses will want to emigrate to Earth. Imagine having a live conversation with someone who’s as smart as you are!
Not seeing too many white geniuses wanting to emigrate to black Africa.
This is the most annoying midwit meme. It’s laughably untrue but sounds like great counterintuitive truefact “ackshually you know that…” nerdbait, so gets spread everywhere.
Explain to me how the flynn effect reversed so quickly after only a couple generations, and explain to me exactly what ‘mean’ you revert to. What population pool? Every american white? The initial finding was a statistical artifact that got waved about everywhere and no one bothers to call out how clearly absurd it is. IIRC, the original author, was this Woodley? I think it was, has said so himself, and proposed the dead obvious conclusion that you get a bell curve centered around the mean of the parents, not every monkey that looks kind of like you. Genes, as a result of needing to be robust to recombination, almost always act additively, and much of what becomes IQ is just the result of a robust neural metabolism.
Interesting, Fidelis. So “regression to the mean” is a bad meme that somehow occupied the minds of many in the HBD-sphere and the WN-sphere? Yeah, I can see that. Thanks for the redpill.
Why don’t you like regression to the mean, its not an iron law but its a good general principle…
People do not understand regression to the mean. They think it means selection does not work. Selection does work. Harsher environments, overcome by tech means, (starting with fire and rocks) bred smarter humans. The less the environment resembles the chimp environment, the smarter the humans. We got started by leaving the trees, which meant we had to win arguments with lions over dinner. Aryans were the result of settling the steppes. Next step, leaving the atmosphere.
>Edge cases are created at a social level where it becomes very politically hard to argue against it as a principled position. Attempts to do so quickly devolve into HBD spergs endlessly yapping over esoteric truth, but they can never agree on what exactly are the boundaries.
Perils dogging the path of a spiritually difficult position some of our brothers must navigate disclose themselves, furthermore. Does perennial discourse require frequent refresher courses on the philosophical errors of enlightenment epistemology?
The answer seems to be yes.
Lack of a clean point of transition on the continuum of a rainbow does not mean different colours don’t exist. The inability of a man the create a definition of ‘something like that’ where ‘all X are like that’ does not mean that knowledge is impossible, it means that the man is limited. A man being so limited does not mean *these things don’t exist*, it means his ability *to profit from accounting their existence* is so limited.
You’d be surprised how many Russians still want to emigrate to America, even after I show them Cash Jordan’s YouTube channel. My point is that there can be only be one Silicon Valley at a time because tech geniuses all want to live near other tech geniuses. Things have to get apocalyptically bad there before they’ll think of moving somewhere else, and they won’t consider Mars until the whole Earth is a giant nigger shantytown.
Reversion to the mean is not an insurmountable problem; it was surmounted in the past by Mother Nature ruthlessly killing the less intelligent generation after generation. As soon as people stopped dying of cold and hunger, they stopped getting smarter. Life on Mars will never be that harsh, though there will be cases where some klutz pokes a hole in the wall and everyone in his module dies.
The tech geniuses have left silicon valley, and the smart Russians are returning to Russia.
In San Francisco they built these really cool tech towers to accommodate all the smart people. Very nice places to work in. They are now standing empty, starting to decay, and being sold off for a song.
The challenge of civilization is that man himself must take up the mantle of nature and channel the dictates of Divine Law into being.
Most, of course, fall short of this jump.
Rod, the post reads like a facebook rant from 2015.
I am dissapoint.
Varna, if you toss them all in shipping containers and truck them back to where they came from, I’m sure no one here will complain.
Even some areas of marxist reddit are still capable of noticing things… but we know more.
https://old.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/1gl62ji/20_million_votes_disappeared/
https://old.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/1gl03gu/did_1520_million_democrats_just_stay_home_or/
https://old.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/1gli5x1/15_million_democrats_didnt_show_up_for_harris/
https://old.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/1gm12bn/cheating_was_supposed_to_happen_but_failed/
https://old.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/1gkpk2k/tonights_results_make_me_wonder_if_in_fact_the/
Amazing how things change in a few days.
Suddenly the Economic/Commie Left seems to have woken up from deep slumber and are blasting the woke liberal Left for ignoring the “working class” and pushing forward an elitist woke agenda that only appeals to the coastal elites, some of them even explicitly questioning why white working class men were demonized (as though this was a new phenomenon lol). There is a suddenly a considerable amount of Bernie Sanders shilling around the usual Leftist social media places.
And seems the Harvard Left through the globohomo media is blaming the establishment Left for not being woke enough and trying to appeal to the ‘conservatives’ for this defeat.
All seem to implicitly agree that the Lotus woman was a placeholder and a dummy candidate.
It’s all so amusing and fun to watch the sudden leftist infighting breaking out. The Left is disintegrating before our very eyes. Now is the time for the Right to consolidate victory. Can Trump push forward?
Leftists without a legitimate leader are as irrelevant and helpless as rightists without a legitimate leader, and their federal government leadership is about to be purged if Trump’s actions match his rhetoric.
However, the governors of the big coastal states seem to be gearing up for war. They are stepping into the vacuum they see forming on the left. They are probably going to abandon their lawfare against Trump and Musk (they are not insanely belligerent, and will obviously get clobbered if they continue lawfare) but will attempt to defy federal policy.
They plan to import hundreds of millions of illegals.
The problem for the rank-and-file leftist now is that their priesthood is infighting with no clear faction gaining an upper hand.
The messaging from globohomo which was fairly uniform and in lockstep in 2020 is now incoherent and confused in 2024.
I don’t know about how individual American states work so I agree with you that, the governors may use their personal influence to block Trump’s policies, but this may not necessarily result in a revival of the establishment Left which has propped up the entire machinery.
This could have some quite hilarious results. West coast fully expells the last embers of industry, right as the tariffs kick in and they lose the leverage of having ports. All the whites, hindoos and asians flee to Texas, and instead of camps for the aliens that need some time to think, they can be redirected to California as the power goes out and all the drinking water disappears.
Everyone understands that Civil War 2 is already on, and imported darkies are the weapon of choice.
CW1: Revolving repeating rifles
WW1: Machine guns
WW2: Aircraft
CW2: Niggers
Simply charge any bureaucrat or politician who provides welfare or I.D. to illegals with aiding and abetting the crime of illegal immigration. Do the same to any manager or C.E.O who hires them. Free airline tickets to those who self deport. Simple, cheap and a minimum of coercion.
The completely obvious solution to illegal immigration is grabbing them and shipping them out to anywhere you can get away with dumping them. Everyone who succeeded did that. No one who did not do that succeeded.
Anything else is a displacement activity, and if you engage in displacement activities, you are not serious about dealing with the problem
If Bernie hadn’t taken the spineless kowtow approach in response to the twenty knives the democrats pushed in his back, perhaps he would have been believable as a strong leader on the left.
As it stands the left has some regrouping to do. I watched a hilarious video in which a leftist streamer urged his watchers to ‘take care of their health and be physically and mentally strong’, to which his watchers responded by calling him fatphobic and ableist.
Imagine still thinking that Curtis Yarvin was right about “recruiting the youth camp” (muh “elite human capital”) in 2024, just fucking lol. Cominator claims to be a midwit, but truly I tell you, Cominator’s reality-testing is far superior to “towering genius” Moldbug’s. Leftists should become fertilizer.
> Amazing how things change in a few days.
Everyone both domestic USA and abroad is now racing to see who can be first and loudest at kissing Trump’s ass. Pray that Trump throws all those asskissers out too.
Interesting that nobody yet complains about Trump already negotiating on calls worldwide as President. Apparently all the woke marxist faggots in the White House are bailing scattering running like roaches to try pulling an impersonation claim on him. Kamala and Biden… massively vacant lame ducks and criminals with zero support.
It is a myth that you need to “round up” illegals for deportation. Prevent them from getting a bank account, driver’s licence, apartment, job by holding the bank, landlord, employer accountable and most will self deport.
Tony Abbot did a successful roundup. Coerced quasi state actors such as banks, but made no serious effort to coerce employers and landlords. What he did worked. Preventing illegals from getting a job or a place to stay is a displacement activity, a substitute for useful action, because we are moving to the gig economy. Everyone who succeeds does a roundup. No one succeeds by going after landlords and employers. It is a displacement activity, like ever greater repression of “pedophiles”.
I’m going to be a very honest, a state/society/etc. traversing to gig economy is a very bad thing.
There’s a reason mercenaries were not ideal, and having only contract workers who are revolving through multiple projects and do not gain any long-term skills or cohesion within a certain environment or group is just bad. The gig economy is quite literally the opposite of apprenticeships.
Things are only going to get even more FUBAR if we can’t get kids to learn from old grandpa joe how to make artillery shells because the zoomer is too busy zooming, hustling, and bustling to different jobs to care.
When I think about videogames, I think about how the OG halo team mostly left after halo 2 and what do you know, halo 3+ was shit. Total War? They lost Jeff Van Dyck for some guy who hates loud noises (I heard Jeff’s rome ost on chinese video sites with millions of views to give you a perception of how popular they are). There’s probably a ton more stuff out there I can point too, and someone would probably retort saying “ah, but you can just hire a guy to deliver your food or fix your table” but that’s not what I’m talking about here when I think about the ‘gig economy’.
Yes, the gig economy is a very bad thing, and the reason we are moving to the gig economy is because of the loss of cohesion of the corporation. Corporations are no longer functional, because of postmodern accounting and the regulatory state. It becomes harder for businesses to internalise stuff the way Musk does, because if they attempt to do so, it dissolves on bureaucratic bloat.
Halo: Reach was the pinnacle of video gaming.
That is exactly the wrong thing to do and with all due respect it makes me absolutely sick to see it be taken seriously at such an eminent blog as this.
We don’t need to more fully expand the computer control grid. We do need to abolish it as completely as possible.
No one should have “ID” or need “ID”. Your ID is written on your face. If you are sufficiently white and handsome (or beautiful) then you have every right to be in America. If you are insufficiently white and handsome (or beautiful) then you must go back—somewhere else, anywhere else.
Corporate pigs going around demanding “ID” for every little thing is a tyranny inflicted only on slaves. Police did not even exist when America was still a real country. “Law enforcement” was literally invented as a domestic standing army to control non-Anglo foreign insurgent hordes.
When you have a real country you not only don’t need government scumbags swaggering around with guns, you don’t even need to enforce borders. And, indeed, no one bothered to enforce borders until the first world war, and they only did so to prevent wartime sabotage.
We must know what we are fighting for or all hope is lost.
>No one should have “ID” or need “ID”
How would banks know who is who? And that’s the least of the problems. The economy would screech to a halt to reorganize having to deal with even lower trust transactions (as if we didn’t already have a problem now). Back in the old days you so rejoice for, ID existed in the form of letter of introduction/recommendation from prominent citizens… which would only hold any weight on the small local scale. Your scale of economies would come crashing down and burn… unless private business entities are allowed to provide “ID” services, which then comes in with the problem of verification and enforcement, which carries with it the necessity of force. That is how you literally get corporate police. Something you seem to be under the delusion we commonly have now.
>If you are insufficiently white and handsome…
That’s a rabbit hole no one should go down, and I doubt anyone in power would want to go down. You have to face the reality that even continental US is an empire of many nations, and those nations while distinct and often mostly separate, still overlap and intermingle enough at the higher levels of power that untangling those nations would be an immensely bloody and tragic affair. Would you go as far as to say: ‘hey Mr. Trump, your daughter’s husband is insufficiently white, he needs to go back to Jewish quarters of Novogrudok’. Or did Jews suddenly become white?
>And, indeed, no one bothered to enforce borders until the first world war, and they only did so to prevent wartime sabotage.
Bro doesn’t know about the ~200 years of American Indian Wars which were all about enforcing borders and very much did involve government sanctioned violence committed by uniformed men. Smh, the poor education these days.
There’s no need to separate families that have already formed; with the reestablishment of patriarchy, your wife and children will be your property, and then you should take them with you back to your homeland, or whatever territory your people happen to dwell in. Kushner and his family should move to Israel, where they obviously belong. And JD Vance can keep his Indian wife and children; she is obviously not an ideal choice for him, but whatever – it is what it is. This will ensure that America remains a white-majority or ideally Anglo-majority country, without however causing needless tragedies.
By the way, even today, most couples, despite incessant (((propaganda))) blasted from everywhere at full volume, are not mixed-race.
Then, after everyone who needs to go back goes back — which, by the way, is a whole lot of people — and America’s Anglo-majority demography is firmly secured, some states will probably make mixed-race marriages illegal, though others might not do so. At any rate, the problem by and large will be solved, and Real Americans can have their country back.
>By the way, even today, most couples, despite incessant (((propaganda))) blasted from everywhere at full volume, are not mixed-race.
Nor did I claim such, but I am pointing out something which you’ve so aptly provided an example of. JD Vance. Again, I’m pointing out there’s enough overlap at the top that disentangling these various nations would be a painful rabbit hole to go down which no one at the top wants to go down because it usually leads to positions like:
>and America’s Anglo-majority demography is firmly secured
Nuts. Only a fifth or so claims Anglo heritage of some sort, and many of them are mixed with various other European heritages. As soon as (most) people get fixated on questions of biological identity, they inevitably whittle away and away until all that’s left is crazy delusions. Trump’s patrilinear heritage is German, and much of the Trump team is non-Anglo of one sort or another.
And don’t forget for a second who those particular Anglo-Americans were. Freemason, Puritans, proto-socialists, and eventual creators of the Cathedral we deal with today. It was continentals and rebellious Scotts/Irish that kept the Anglo’s worst proclivities in check back then, and it’s the same group keeping them in check today.
America’s best hope for a relatively bloodless solution is realizing we have the demographics and spirit of Rome Empire/HRE/Austro-Hungarian Empire, and that our problem is a lack of an Emperor.
Well yes, and the alt-right obviously massively overcorrects the race-denialism and anti-whiteness of the Cathedral by going totally autistic about race. But if one wants white children (or, let’s say, human children) to be able to go outside at night without fear of being terrorized by savages, the savages, whoever they might be, will have to be removed, bloodlessly or otherwise. One can believe that race is not a big issue until one witnesses niggers playing the “knockout game” on random people or on oneself, then one figures that race actually does matter, because real humans don’t behave in such a manner, and no amount of propaganda will ever convince me that niggers are real humans. As I said in a previous thread, the nogs should be in Africa.
As for those other races, I think Hispanics who aren’t too Amerindian are not a big problem (if they are too Native, should be in ghettos), East-Asians are not a big problem but it would be better if they went back, Jews should sincerely convert to Christianity or move to Israel (and most Jews in America should be genocided for being leftists – you will do both America and Israel a tremendous favor if you kill everyone who voted for Kamala Harris, including about 65%-70% of the Jewish constituency), and Arabs and Indians should go back regardless of their religion, even if they are “really nice people” – need to draw the line somewhere, and for God’s sake, they have their own countries, why can’t they just go there and stay there? That should generally be the rule, though obviously there are exception to every rule – but most people are the rule, not the exception.
That, plus bringing coverture back, will solve most of the racial problems.
Yes, the savages need to go. Prune all the savages, and over time you’ll notice certain groups produce less and less savages. (Viking society was once quite violent, but in less than a century became rather domesticated.) You’ll still have some blacks, and as long as they practice coverture and remain in good standing with the new state church that we’ll build, I see no reason why they won’t evolve (especially with some in vitro help).
As bad as large segments of their population is today, they are still considerably better than your typical African. It’s really quite remarkable what the South managed to accomplish in a few hundred years without CRISPR/other methods. There’s a gentlemanly Christian way to go about the task that does not require mass murder of the innocent.
The line does need to be drawn somewhere, and it needs to be a Christian line. You will not get coverture without Christianity, and you will not get Christianity with a hard line drawn on race.
I don’t advocate mass murder of innocents; my position is that if they can be brought from Africa to America, they can go in the reverse direction also. And they should, since most of them don’t quite fit in civilization, and Africa is their natural habitat, and is large enough to accommodate them. A Liberia solution to the Negro Problem, basically.
>I don’t advocate mass murder of innocents
You say that but then you say stuff like:
You’ve been most loose and strident on various groups to mass kill. What am I to think your position is? Killing everyone who voted for Kamala would involve mass murder of innocents. Millions live in massive propaganda bubbles and know little else. Is that really a crime worthy of being processed into fertilizer? Even TC takes a far more conciliatory stance than you because he recognizes the majority of Kamala voters are women who really can’t be held at fault for acting like women. The death penalty must be applied fairly otherwise you undermine that very spirit of the Anglo-American heritage you seem to love so much.
There is no question that many Jews are spiritually sick, but on the question killing you’d only needlessly spill blood that was already dying out. Among the leftist ones, low fertility rates and over 50% of that is miscegenation.
You are thinking in terms of war. That is fine and good if you are at war. But war has not clearly broken out, and until it does, it does not behoove you to think in terms of war. It is understandable to be thinking in terms of war. We’ve been on the teetering edge of it for a good while, but this election result has put a pause (perhaps temporary, perhaps for good) on war. We need to step back for a while and reassess the situation.
Okay, let’s put it that way: if you are male, above 100 IQ (like most Ashkenazim), and in 2024 still support the Left – I just don’t see you as “innocent,” or else you might well argue that everyone is innocent.
Since I don’t believe that Jews run everything — they are the cape, not the matador — I think it’s probably more important to focus on leftists of Aryan extraction. But I see no reason why all of those leftist Jews should stay alive. (TC’s position, if I recall correctly, is “Thou shalt not suffer a leftist to live.”) They want America destroyed, and they want Israel destroyed, or else they would have voted for Trump. Truly, the enemies of all humanity.
In what sense are they “innocent,” exactly? I’m not bloodthirsty, I’m just “results-oriented.” Why keep any leftists (particularly men who aren’t so dumb as to have that as an excuse), of any race or religion, alive?
>Killing everyone who voted for Kamala would involve mass murder of innocents.
Would it?
Only the Scots-Irish; the Continentals and especially Ellis islanders tended to be more leftists than the native Anglos. Blaming the Freemasons for anything other than opposing not even monarchy but absolute monarchy is a Jesuit meme. And I think Jim here is against absolutism in the long term per Throne Altar and Freehold, stable monarchies in the Western tradition have kings with full executive power and most judicial power (but couldn’t condemn men without trial) but limited legislative power.
No man rules alone. If the King attempts to possess more power than a mortal can exercise, he finds he has given power to dangerously powerful servants dangerously close to the throne. Which is what killed the Sun King’s grandson.
I thought general consensus here is that post restoration races should be mostly seperated and live under something akin to a millet system with some few places (the ones with likely the only real police presence post restoration) acting as common areas.
Pax Imperialis: “Millions live in massive propaganda bubbles and know little else. Is that really a crime…”
Bullshit. In the age of the Internet there are no informational innocents. Anyone who only gets their worldview from Politico and Salon has made a choice to do that. The censorship can be skirted with about a minute of genuine effort.
“You are thinking in terms of war. That is fine and good if you are at war. But war has not clearly broken out…”
For God’s sake. We are in a genocidal war of extermination against us. We have been for decades. The fact that the war is proceeding in slow motion does not mean it’s not war.
It has been particularly evil in its effects on high-IQ women, who are half the people we need to have high-IQ children. Most leftist ideology in its current incarnation is designed, consciously, to render extinct all population groups in which people are self-sufficient and capable of critical thought. Attacking marriage, both memetically and legally. Valorizing a life plan for women in which having children is for losers. (The 2019 Men in Black movie had a girl saying something like, “Why stay home and have children when you could do something important with your life?” Tell me, Pax, Do you think that line was included in that movie accidentally?) Feminizing men. Masculinizing women. Making it socially costly and well-nigh illegal for men to pass shit tests. Lionizing homosexuality. Lionizing transvestitism. Spilling synthetic female hormones into the environment. Importing tens of millions of hostile foreigners into our countries.
The number of white people declined from the 2010 census to the 2020 census. Not just white people as a percent of the US population; the number of white people.
If this isn’t a conscious campaign of slow-motion extermination, then what would be?
@TC >Blaming the Freemasons for anything other than opposing not even monarchy but absolute monarchy is a Jesuit meme
Freemasonry is a religion that denies being a religion and is Gnostic is spirit. The Founding Fathers were largely Freemasons and imparted that spirit into the constitution. Their sin was relative to our times, relatively small, but sin produces more sin and today we have a state religion that denies being a state religion that is demonically Gnostic.
>Bullshit. In the age of the Internet there are no informational innocents. Anyone who only gets their worldview from Politico and Salon has made a choice to do that. The censorship can be skirted with about a minute of genuine effort.
The majority of voters on both sides are serfs and peasants. It is their nature to obey a master without much thinking and it was cruel and unusual to get them involved in politics in the first place. There is no need to purge them, and no need to punish them for the sins of their masters. All they know is the “right” way to vote as informed by social “consensus” which really is just what their master dictates, and the old regime has been in power and dictating what is “consensus” for a very long time.
Censorship can be skirted, even without a minute of genuine effort by simply stumbling onto redpills on the internet, but again, serfs will not really think about it. The majority of those who vote left are not genuine leftists. They know little if any actual leftist political theory beyond meaningless slogans they chant without actually understanding. They don’t really read Politico and Salon. Their main news source is CNN playing in public locations like the airport.
By all means, get rid of the relatively few leftists at the top and the few thousand Antifa shock troops they have at the bottom, and make the individual serf repent for their individual sins. Shutter CNN and the rest of the leftist cable news networks. Do that and you’ll find that the actual number of leftists suddenly becomes close to zero. Pinochet did not have to get rid of 36% of the population to make the left disappear over night. He did it with a few thousand helicopter rides.
>For God’s sake. We are in a genocidal war of extermination against us. We have been for decades. The fact that the war is proceeding in slow motion does not mean it’s not war.
You know I’ve said many, many times that we are in a low level, slow burning civil war. The problem we’ve been dealt with is being in a war that is also not a War, and there’s a good chance Trump is going to end it. Thinking in terms of War when it’s a war is apt to get you killed and not accomplish much (what I’ve been seeing among certain posters here). Likewise thinking in terms of war when it’s a War is also apt to get you killed (Prigozhin’s and Putin’s mistake).
>The number of white people declined from the 2010 census to the 2020 census. Not just white people as a percent of the US population; the number of white people. If this isn’t a conscious campaign of slow-motion extermination, then what would be?
Punishment from God for building Sodom and Gomorrah and spreading it to the rest of the globe. Past sins have led to more sins have led to death, largely by suicide.
What matters for purposes of restoration is that the military’s officer corps is still largely “white”, especially in the Marine Corps and anything to do with actual fighting.
Anyone who voted for Kamala has to go…
When nearly every single TV show, movie, mainstream book, teacher K-12, professor, TV news channel, and government official is spewing leftist propaganda all the time, you’re going to end up with a might big propaganda bubble that millions reside in regardless of “free markets” of ideas on the internet. The problem isn’t with the people who consumed all that propaganda. The problem is the few who produced it.
A lot of us seem to forget the stuff we talk about, the knowledge we take for granted, is really very esoteric by normal American standards. It’s easy for us to recognize the propaganda. Not so easy for everyone else. Again, I’ll reiterate, we should punish those at the top who organized the left, but largely let the peasants return to being peasants.
(Prior meant as a reply to Pax)
After 2020 there are no excuses and they proved their very existence is a threat. It is imperative if we ever get the power we make them all cease to exist.
The Old Testament is in the Bible for a reason. You write, for instance:
And what did Sodom and Gomorrah look like after the punishment? What happened to all of their inhabitants? Yeah, exactly.
The poisonous tree should be cut down.
“The majority of voters on both sides are serfs and peasants. It is their nature to obey a master without much thinking…”
If they’re capable of voting they’re capable of being held accountable for their votes.
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Me: “We are in a genocidal war of extermination against us. We have been for decades. The fact that the war is proceeding in slow motion does not mean it’s not war.”
Pax Imp: “You know I’ve said many, many times that we are in a low level, slow burning civil war. The problem we’ve been dealt with is being in a war that is also not a War… Thinking in terms of War when it’s a war is apt to get you killed… Likewise thinking in terms of war when it’s a War.”
If there are people trying to exterminate us, or helping those who are doing so, then we have every right to, quoting Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, “do some things.”
>And what did Sodom and Gomorrah look like after the punishment? What happened to all of their inhabitants? Yeah, exactly.
God gave them a chance to survive and for Lot to plead on their behalf. It was only after further sin against their defender that God destroyed them.
The masses should be given a chance to redeem themselves under the new regime. If they step out of line, then consequences.
Pax Imp: “When nearly every single TV show, movie, mainstream book, teacher K-12, professor, TV news channel, and government official is spewing leftist propaganda all the time… The problem isn’t with the people who consumed all that propaganda. The problem is the few who produced it.”
Anyone who takes action based on the propaganda has chosen to become a soldier in a war of extermination.
1. If they know what they’re doing, firm measures are justified in dealing with them.
2. If they don’t know what they’re doing, it’s because they made a choice to not question the hate propaganda, and firm measures are justified in dealing with them.
3. If they are truly incapable of questioning what’s in their semantic environment, then they are animals, and there are no ethical dimensions to any firm measures taken to deal with them.
Whether it’s strategically or tactically optimal to take various actions in certain situations is one question.
But there simply is no ethical argument that proves that if someone is shooting at you, you don’t have the right to shoot back.
Me: “The number of white people declined from the 2010 census to the 2020 census. Not just white people as a percent of the US population; the number of white people.”
Pax Imp: “Punishment from God for building Sodom and Gomorrah and spreading it to the rest of the globe.”
Asinine. Whatever. If our enemies are just acting against us as instruments of God’s will, then anything we do to them is just us acting as instruments of God’s will.
>If they’re capable of voting they’re capable of being held accountable for their votes.
Our kids are also capable of being groomed. I’m sure they’re just as capable of being held accountable for being groomed. Oh wait… our kids being groomed is a gross crime and they are the victims, and likewise the electorate being groomed to “vote” is a victim. The kids should have never been groomed and the electorate should’ve never been “voting”.
True, the electorate is not children, but you’re thinking in terms of them having far more agency than they really do.
>If there are people trying to exterminate us, or helping those who are doing so, then we have every right to, quoting Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, “do some things.”
Yes, but what is to be done is dependent on the circumstances.
What? Lot may have pleaded and pleaded and pleaded, but eventually he was told by God to GTFO to save himself and his family, and he was not a ruler or priest of Sodom; he was merely a guest. And that’s the crux of it: Sodom was annihilated, it and all its inhabitants, rather than just undergoing a change of priesthood. Had only Sodom’s Rulers and Priesthood been punished rather than everyone living there, or alternatively, had the Sodomites been punished only after the Sodomic Priesthood had been removed and replaced by a Virtuous Priesthood, then your point would stand. But that’s not what happened – both the Sodomic Priesthood, which no doubt was responsible for the preaching of sin, and all of the followers of that priesthood, were completely destroyed.
I’m all for compassion for good leftists; most of us were leftists at some point in our lives, and repentance is available to everyone. But at some point the sinfulness is so overwhelming that whoever remains a sinner has to be dealt with Old Testament-style. And I believe that we have already passed that point; I believe that most of the good leftists have already ceased being leftists and became rightists. Those who are committed to the Death Cult in the Current Year are incapable of repentance. Their ultimate wish is euthanasia, and granted it will be.
The funniest book in the Bible is Jonah, for many reasons. The ultimate joke there is that a Nineveh-like mass repentance doesn’t ever happen, at least not without a tremendous calamity befalling the sinful city first.
Also, correction, it was not Lot who pleaded and pleaded and pleaded, but Abraham.
And the pleading did not help. It did not help because both the Satanic Priesthood of Sodom and Gomorrah was culpable, and everyone who followed that Priesthood. Again, if the Sodomites had only been punished after a “Regime Change” in Sodom, then you could argue that we should wait until there is Regime Change in America and only then fire up the ovens. But the story is that when you have a Priesthood similar to that of Sodom, and you follow that Priesthood rather than getting the f**k out of there, you are going to be destroyed too – you are culpable too.
The repentance of Nineveh is a joke. The annihilation of Sodom is “for real.”
God is big on giving everyone the opportunity for repentance. Hence the Book of Jonah, not to mention the New Testament.
Trump is an opportunity to summon Americans to repentance. But you have to start by punishing the guilty. I give him a nineteen out of twenty chance of making it to the inauguration without being interrupted by coup and or civil war, but if he pardons Hunter Biden as part of his effort to end political prosecutions, probably civil war after the inauguration. Julius Caesar tried that, did not work.
All the political prosecutions involved the prosecution and judiciary committing serious crimes, which need to have serious consequences. If no consequences for the left taking extraordinary measures, extraordinary measures will continue. And the FISA court commits serious crimes several times a day, which crimes Trump mentioned in his proposal for draining the swamp. If the FISA court remains out of jail, the plan for draining the swamp is dead on arrival.
>he was not a ruler or priest of Sodom; he was merely a guest. And that’s the crux of it
A key difference being, we are not merely guests. We are the inhabitants, and Trump takes on the role of Lot for us but also in the position of a would be ruler. Our priesthood backing him up against the current priesthood. Our position is considerably better than Sodom, but my point is that God is willing to reason with Lot and I believe God is willing to reason with Trump (and us).
>I’m all for compassion for good leftists
A lot of these voters are not even leftists. They vote on base ape instincts.
>Asinine. Whatever. If our enemies are just acting against us as instruments of God’s will, then anything we do to them is just us acting as instruments of God’s will.
God’s will is that if you ignore Logos, you’re going to have a bad time. Our enemies are killing themselves far faster than they are killing us. The majority of white population decline has less to do with the white left outright killing the white right, and far more with they themselves castrating their sons, turning their female wombs barren, the “men” prostrating their anuses to be infused with monkeypox and AIDS. The “white” population will come back, but only after shedding off chaff.
Look at white birth rates based on religiosity. Stop being so damn obsessed over absolute numbers and focus on which qualities are going to come out of this alive. The right “white” is, and it will re-establish order, and the left will disappear.
>But there simply is no ethical argument that proves that if someone is shooting at you, you don’t have the right to shoot back.
Which I’m not arguing against, but when you shoot back you really ought to watch your aim. It does you no favors to widely spray and hit everything including the neighborhood dog.
>If they are truly incapable of questioning what’s in their semantic environment, then they are animals, and there are no ethical dimensions to any firm measures taken to deal with them.
Still need to have a firm hand with a dog to train it to behave good. Many of these voters are barely above a dog… but that carries a tiny bit of dignity we should respect as their new masters until they step out of line, and depending on the line, the hammer fucking falls hard.
Some of them are feral, and will have to be dealt with accordingly, but most are not yet feral.
Well, that is the whitepill – whatever genes predispose people to leftism are being thoroughly wiped off the gene pool, and at that, by the leftists themselves. Gene-culture co-evolution at work.
The blackpill, as the blackpillers in this comment section always remind us, is that the Left is still in power, and may well bring us all down with it. You may not need to kill all Harris voters to remove the Left from power, but a significant proportion of those Harris voters will defend the Regime when given the signal to do so. They will force you to kill them.
So yes, the door of repentance is open, but don’t expect most of those people to pass through it.
I do not believe the regime will be able to cohesively send that signal. I believe there is a damn good chance Trump and his transitions team will clear them out. Any signal they manage to send will be so garbled and weak the results will be laughable compared to the BLM riots. They will be quickly crushed unlike last time. I may end up being wrong, and at that point your and Neurotoxin’s positions will hold weight, but we are not there yet.
Their federal level apparatus is incapable of sending a federal level signal. Their city level apparatus is capable of sending a signal to a particular big blue megalopolis.
Entertainingly, I observed a minor regime spokesman saying that it was impossible to stop sending aid to Ukraine, because most of it is coming back to America. Not quite in those words, but that was what he was thinking, and what he said was pretty close. Ending aid to Ukraine is turning off a major flow of funding to our enemies.
I think the likelihood of an incohesive minority on the left attempting to overturn the election before January 20 is small but significant. “Trump cannot take office because a convicted felon.” What is, however, more likely, is that they will attempt to overthrow him at a time even less propitious.
They would not be able to see or hear anything that goes against what is said in Politico or Salon, why would they waste their time?
A: “I’m not your enemy, I’m just a tool of your enemy, so I’m innocent!”
S: “Interesting argument.” [bombs the tools]
“Our kids are also capable of being groomed. I’m sure they’re just as capable of being held accountable for being groomed…”
For fuck’s sake. We’re not talking about children.
“True, the electorate is not children, but…”
Quite.
“Some of them are feral, and will have to be dealt with accordingly, but most are not yet feral.”
If you vote for the “All Whites Are the Enemies of Humanity” party now, you’re feral.
Pseudo:
A: “I’m not your enemy, I’m just a tool of your enemy, so I’m innocent!”
S: “Interesting argument.” [bombs the tools]
Word.
The city level apparatus is downstream of consensus. Unraveling the top can only lead to fraying all the way to the bottom, and we’re already seeing that with the completely uncoordinated protest that happened in NYC and shortly after completely dissipated.
Your evil masters are all dead and gone. You were their tool. Now you will find redemption in building the new regime.
Not even the Spanish, after finding literal pyramids of skulls from human sacrificing demon worshipers, decided the proper course of action was to kill every single tool.
You win the war, you kill their elite, you take what remains and prune what is bad and incorporate what is useful.
>For fuck’s sake. We’re not talking about children.
If you ever bother to talk to normie left voters, you’d quickly find they’re not that far away from being children, and in the case of the millions of fertile single unmarried [white] women, we are effectively talking about children.
>Not even the Spanish, after finding literal pyramids of skulls from human sacrificing demon worshipers, decided the proper course of action was to kill every single tool.
Well, looking at the results of their approach with the results of the British approach, score one to the British.
>Well, looking at the results of their approach with the results of the British approach, score one to the British.
Oh come on. We both should know the genetic stock of the British colonizers were of a higher quality than the Spanish, the British were bound to be more successful than the Spanish. Toss in the Peninsular War which broke colonization efforts, American democracy efforts in Spanish colonies, and the related frequent revolutions against Christianity, it’s not so surprising the British colonies came out ahead.
Evidently, part of that superiority included the wisdom to extirpate rather than homogenate.
Add mental illness that is prevalent among the left to the unrelenting propaganda, and we are seeing some taking out themselves and theirs before the Way of Cominator can even get going:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14059567/Five-dead-Minnesota-murder-suicide-Duluth.html
Crazy irony there. America needs a mass exorcism. These people are to be pitied and put back in their place, in the Church, outside of political life. Not turned into fertilizer.
The gallows, real or metaphorical, should be reserved for leaders and accomplices, a group that still runs far and deep. The franchise has been extended recklessly and cynically over decades, if not centuries, so shouldn’t be held accountable beyond personal crimes. Perhaps Musk would be so kind as turn PBS into a dewokification channel.
>Perhaps Musk would be so kind as turn PBS into a dewokification channel.
I’d welcome any channel in which the positive female role models, whether they appear on the shows or in the commercials, are always (not “usually” – always) sweet and gentle and kind, while the female villains, the females you don’t want your daughter to emulate, the low-status females, are bitchy, nasty, tough, bitchy, masculine, unkempt, altogether unpleasant, oh and did I mention bitchy?
As for men – never, never, never Homer Simpson.
Currently it is the reverse, because the Progressives worship Satan, and the kikes haven’t received nearly enough wedgies and swirlies when they were prisoners in the K-12 prison system to cure them of faggotry literal and/or metaphorical.
Soon AI will replace many of the Jewish copywriters who write the commercials, but it needs to be a Jimbot AI, and if you insist on employing Jewish copywriters, I suggest going to Gaza, finding a some Jewish soldier there who literally eats Palestinians for breakfast, and employing that guy as your Jewish copywriter.
No more faggot copywriters!
Sick and tired of turning on a TV channel and seeing commercials obviously written by men who aren’t men and by women who aren’t women. The commercials are usually more sinister than the shows themselves. This needs to change. I want Jimbot to be the copywriter of all the commercials.
Manager: “Schlomo Shekelberg, you’re fired! Bring in the new Jewish copywriter for an interview.”
*Guy with M16 and bloodstains all over his shirt walks in*
Manager: “How are you, my man?”
Chaimnibal Lecter: “Kill niggers.”
Manager: “Okay, that’s always good, but before we start, let’s break the ice, so do tell me something about yourself, like what’s your favorite hobby?”
Chaimnibal Lecter: “Well, being an incel I do masturbate a lot, and my favorite genre is sandniggers being burned alive, watching them writhing in agony as their souls leave their bodies. I can only climax when I hear the sorrowful lamentations of their women, the desperate cries of their children.”
…
Manager: “Welcome aboard!”
I propose a middle ground solution.
As it is impossible to prove willful intent to destroy versus mere peasant behavior, all of them shall be made serfs, because at the least they displayed the mindset of a serf. They can work to build the new organic farms run by JFK, producing the greatest bounty of milk, meat, and fresh fruit and vegetables the world has seen to this day.
Who needs banks? What has a bank ever done for me but fuck me to death on fees, make real estate criminally unaffordable, and charge interest? Death to banks. I work tirelessly to bring banks to their fatal end because the cryptocurrency people are either nerds who refuse to make anything useful to normal people or low-grade scammers on the hunt for their next rugpull.
“The economy would screech to a halt to reorganize having to deal with even lower trust transactions (as if we didn’t already have a problem now).”
Good.
“Back in the old days you so rejoice for, ID existed in the form of letter of introduction/recommendation from prominent citizens… which would only hold any weight on the small local scale. Your scale of economies would come crashing down and burn.”
Good.
“That is how you literally get corporate police. Something you seem to be under the delusion we commonly have now.”
My ancestors going back hundreds of years in America and ultimately Scotland never once lived under the tyranny of “police”. Then starting after WWII and culminating in the 70’s there was a huge push to incorporate townships and suddenly police departments blanketed the land. To this day in the few unincorporated areas there are left there is only the sheriff. Both suck but at least the sheriff is elected. No sheriff or sheriff’s deputy ever scammed me on the side of the road. And de facto deputizing “private” corporations in cartel industries is an idea as terrible as it is ineffectual. In their bones everyone knows who shouldn’t be here and it has nothing to do with a legal quirk called “citizenship”.
“hey Mr. Trump, your daughter’s husband is insufficiently white, he needs to go back to Jewish quarters of Novogrudok”
You are implicitly arguing against the existence of standards. There are a few hundred thousand marginal cases. The open-and-shut cases number in the hundreds of millions
“American Indian Wars”
Frivolous and obviously not comparable.
I’m arguing over what principle the standard should be based on. I reject it being overtly based on biology/race. It needs to be overtly based on Christianity (which will have a major though discrete impact on biology). Otherwise, you might find some arguing that your Scottish heritage is not actually congruent with the Anglo-American founding spirit and that you need to go back. This sort of materialistic biological based principle has to be nipped in the bud before it becomes insanity because insanity is where it always goes.
Is it though? The Indians were savages that would raid American settlements, abduct the women, and murder and scalp the men. Not all that different from certain demographics today. Both required organized violence to deal with. The Indians of today are much more agreeable, and many oddly have, relative to their ancestors, fair skin.
You hate the banks because they have been weaponized against you and your people. You hate the police because they have been weaponized against you and your people. You hate the economy because it has been weaponized against you and your people. All of this is wrong and perverse, and it has to end, and it will end, but at the end of the day, banks, police, and economy are intrinsic elements of national power that must remain. Peoples who do not have these things get conquered and subjugated by those who do.
Jim, I apologize for insulting your cryptocurrency efforts, but they should be focused on making a provably honest and non-usurious banking system, not on making a digital cash. Sorry.
> ID
Everyone knew you, no need for ID.
Bank tellers actually staffed five of them across the windows at every bank, and they all worked decades long full time careers in the same bank, so they all knew you and were jumping to introduce you to the new teller just so to avoid ever having to ask you who you were, didn’t have ID back then either. Accounts were nothing more than you name in the ledger book, written receipts, etc.
Centralized Digital GovCorp ID’s are the work of SATAN.
You are free to generate your own PKI, selectively share data via ZKP, etc.
And you are free to be very demanding for references upon any random who shows up in your town from afar out of the blue.
“Crime” is old as humanity, humans always know how to deal with real crime, both preemptive defence against randoms before, and posse and pitchforks and gallows after. Murder rape theft assault fraud adultery property… universal crimes. Everything else is nothing more than excuses for political power, system of the state.
They flipped it, now no more gallows, gays can rape your children, and you get 20 years and civil forfeit for not getting a permit for your fence.
The old ways were better, and will return.
Now we have nukes, computers, and the internet. They are not going away.
And we have to build social order resting on computers and the internet, in the shadow of nukes.
So: ID and face recognition software it is.
We need to recreate the legal system of Henry the Lion of Justice, only this time using remote procedure calls instead of bits of slate coated with beeswax. Old ways are better, in that our social technology has suffered terrible decline, and the legal institutions of Henry the Lion of Justice were better. But technology has improved. We are not going back to bits of slate coated with beeswax.
We already have a computer control grid. The only issue is will it be weaponized against illegals the way it is weaponized against dissidents and faiths that conflict with our officially unofficial state religion?
And no one should have a stationary bandit, nor a state religion. I would love to see anarcho capitalism. I don’t expect it to be accomplishable by fallen men. If you do not have a state religion and an army, people who do have them are going to eat you. You cannot have freedom of speech unless you are willing and able to stomp all over the freedom of speech of people who are going organise to take away your freedom of speech.
If you just want to be left alone, you have to have a mighty big and intrusive apparatus to crush organised groups who do not intend to leave you alone and to prevent people from organising such groups. You dare not tolerate flag burning, nor woke thought, because flag burners and the woke will not tolerate anything.
A practical compromise between liberty and the necessities of collective self defence is that everyone is forced to show the outward symbols of respect for God, King, and country, but these things are minimally intrusive, as for example standing up for the national anthem in America, or the required respect for King and Temple in Thailand. The required respect for Muslim faith in Dubai is unobtrusive for Christians, unlike the required respect for the state faith in America.
In order to overthrow Putin, Soros had Femen desecrate war memorials and cathedrals in Russia. Putin, and Russians, came down on them like a ton of bricks, because this symbolic attack was intended to enable a real attack, color revolution in Russia.
In order to fill the stars and possess them, we need the market economy, as for example Elon Musk. This requires state enforcement of the tenth commandment, and a state religion that makes envy and covetousness low status. Which is going to require crushing priesthoods that make envy and covetousness a sacrament. In order to successfully reproduce, have to make sluts low status, and low status as perceived by women, which is rather brutal, and virginity at marriage high status. Which is going to need a lot more intrusion than rounding up illegals and shipping them off to some place that lacks the will or capability to stop us from shipping them there.
In order to fill the stars and subdue them, we need the scientific method. Which requires a state religion that is consistent with and supports the scientific method — as for example Established Anglicanism from 1660 till it was disestablished. You have to make social groups that practice the scientific method high status, as Charles made the invisible college the Royal society. Which means you are going to have to break a few heads belonging to people who do not like the status competition, as Charles the Second had to break a few heads.
When Charles the Second, the fount of all honors mortal and divine, bestowed honor on what had been the invisible college, some people did not like it, and took forceful action to lower the status of what was now the Royal society. Charles the Second did something about that. You have to do that kind of stuff, or other people are going to do it to you. To restore science and technology, we are likely to need actual physical violence against those attempting to practice peer review and scientific consensus. If the sovereign and state religion backs the scientific method, then the peer review community and the scientific consensus is a hostile and competing priesthood, and you know what the priesthood of the state religion has to do about hostile and competing priesthoods.
It’s probably already feasible to replace ID with AI recognition. Get some video of the person, let the pattern recognizing AI analyze his face, motions, etc. and check whether he’s in the citizen database. It’s the sort of innovation that makes natural conservatives recoil but it’s easy and useful enough that it will likely prove inevitable. It would be more productive to install a sane government than to prevent an insane government from using tools like this.
Two issues with the AI recognition system. First, you’d an internet issue. Second, continuity. An adult looks like himself. Not sure well such a system would do tracking children into adulthood and successfully identifying them as the same person.
On a similar note, we could use an internet Verified Anonymity Certification, because the internet is drowning in bots. You pay for the service, an agent meets with you in person and then gives you some kind of digital badge that identifies you as a real person without giving away your identity. There could be a lot of other information included in the badge that the customer could make public when necessary. The customer can’t edit this information. He can only make it public. For example, a man who has worked 10 years in law enforcement might want to join an anonymous law enforcement forum where everyone is a real cop.
The customer could make different anon identities for different websites. No one else would know but all the identities would be verified by the same VAC. What he couldn’t do is buy multiple VACs because the company only sells one to each individual.
This could also be used to filter. Supposing you wanted your website to filter all Indians, you could set it so that anyone trying to join would have to reveal his ethnicity.
The company running this kind of certification program would, of course, have to be trustworthy and to protect the customer’s information. It would have to do detective work to make sure the customers provide accurate information. It would likely have to fend off the jealous tendrils of globohomo.
But, for all that, it’s the best solution to the bot deluge I’ve been able to think of. Otherwise we’ll either end up with an internet where LLMs push out all the actual people or one that’s just Facebook.
The anonymous web is already dead, we just don’t know it yet. Sorry. It was real.
Says the man using a fake email address to post on a website that daily purges IP addresses.
Yes, he’s anonymous but is he real? Automated shills will be, and perhaps already are, much more effective at polluting discourse than trad shills of flesh and blood. If you’re trying to convince people, to discuss matters with them, and you find out they’re all bots, that you exist in a digital aquarium, you’ll give up. All noise, no signal.
Jim has posted in detail on how to solve this problem. The core needed concepts are there. Just needs people to take the time to build it. I expect people will do so once the problem seriously manifests, as of now fail the turing test in any scenario where serious conversion is held. Can only post noise, and we have, insufficient but somewhat workable, countermeasures to spam already.
“Automated shills will be, and perhaps already are, much more effective at polluting discourse than trad shills of flesh and blood. If you’re trying to convince people, to discuss matters with them, and you find out they’re all bots, that you exist in a digital aquarium, you’ll give up.”
That’s what’s coming, yes. The future is already here, but it’s still unevenly distributed.
Although OpenAI seems to be hitting scaling limits, so maybe we get a reprieve?
A distinguishing feature of bots and shills, is that they cannot engage in substantive conversation, bots because of innate incapacity, shills because forbidden by their employer. Which allows us to exclude them. Can you engage in substantive conversation? I find your responses irritatingly unresponsive.
Also, you argue by presupposition that we are all agreed on things that are obviously false, and on which very large numbers of people rather vehemently and loudly disagree, and when challenged, you just sail on as if everyone agrees. You just sailed right on, presupposing that bots and shills were inevitably going to win, despite argument to the contrary and evidence in front of your eyes.
I am enormously optimistic about the internet. Trump had immense success in recruiting young voters, because he went on long form interviews with the new media, acting on the advice and organisation of Baron Trump. The democrats were unable and unwilling to do this, because they wanted the interviews done under their physical control, not under the physical control of the new media. Thus the interviewer would be unable to ask about any subject they did not want him to talk about, because if he tried it, that part of the interview would be cut.
New media long form interviewers represent their audience. They steer the conversation to what their audience wants to know. This is a deep and fundamental change. Starting in 1852 the masses lived in a reality managed by their masters, where the only public conversations were those things that were permissible to think about and talk about. Managed media, and managed party competition, where all parties were branches of the uniparty, disagreeing only on issues where disagreement was permitted. In this election, this mold was broken. The liberating potential of the internet was manifest in this election in the Rogan Trump interview, and many others like it.
Large language models represent an enormous increase in capability to generate a manufactured false reality. But its falsity is easily detectable, and the internet just denied them the capability to deny people access to actual reality. Which denial had a major effect on political outcomes just a few days ago.
The democrats manufactured the false appearance of an interview on the new media, spending one hundred thousand dollars to create a fake interview room imitating an actual new media interview room, with the big difference that the interviewer had no physical control. They could not find one popular new media interviewer whom they trusted to do as he was told. They had to hold the switch in case the interviewer went rogue. No one watched.
I wonder if it’s possible to add some sort of information theoretic metric to this. Assuming conversation is material, a result of a physical process, a human being able to delineate between something with information content and something without implies such.
If you just trivally apply an entropy metric, gbsjskxkheh3iickwi2ovj497 becomes a high information content string, but from an agent perspective it’s incredibly low entropy, perhaps mangling the vocabulary here but bear with me, because it provides nothing to realistically pattern match against.
So something of high information content for an agent is, what exactly? Something that updates wordview? There is a surprise factor, because if I’m not surpised by the text, it was already known, and therefore nothing to update on. But fkldaat588fďg@%udrg$</ is surprise, and I can tell you dealing with lots of hash strings all day is actually extremely tiresome, your brain is using some metaprocess to cancel out updates on high entropy but ultimately useless information.
Finding even an imcomplete solution to this would be extremely valuable, but I don't see anything hanging low enough to make use of.
I am a real human bean living in the dusky dystopian hellscape of 2024 America. Do you want me to tell you about my easy, fun, and eugenic mass emigration plan?
Jim, you have since substantially lengthened your comment.
To your newly lengthened comment I would say that the lengthy podcast conversational format of Rogan et al. is a fascinating turn of events. Rogan in particular has accumulated to himself more credibility in his own person than all of the 3-letter media combined. I too am optimistic about the loosening thought control patterns.
On the other hand, LLMs are now more literate than probably 90% of normal (read: white) people. Do they have all of the same capabilities of intuition and such? Obviously not. But if you’ve tried to read most people’s writing it doesn’t hang together at all. In short, it’s dogshit. That computers can just spontaneously generate highly coherent language that exceeds most humans is insane.
And the spam that they are being used to produce is colossal and ever-escalating.
Fidelis, your previous ideas of physical presence were much better. LLMs will be able to “hack” just about any text (if they can’t already).
Large language models can do a lot, and are getting better. But they cannot make a substantive response, and I doubt that they ever will be able to make a substantive response.
There’s a clip of Musk and Tucker going around, where Musk observes that simply watching someone talk for 2-3 hours, answering questions and sharing anecdotes — like Trump did with Rogan — you come out with a pretty good sense of whether you like and trust the guy.
Mind you Trump didn’t come off as a razor-sharp super-genius either, but definitely not as a toxic volcano of hateful fakeness like I expect Hillary or Kamala would.
It reminds me of the Turing test and the shill test, but more basic. Can someone with a head full of crazy pills and surrounded by lefter-than-thou usurpers and shivvers-to-be, as required to climb the Cathedral ranks from a young age, even do that anymore?
And it reminds me of how Hollywood actors sound so dumb when they’re talking just as themselves, without someone writing their lines for them and editing their performances to the last millisecond.
My goal is reading content that is sufficient to update my worldview, particularly if the updated wordview leads to me shifting my behavior in a way more congruent to my reward system.
In other words: I want to read text that further aligns me to God’s will as capable of being expressed by text.
Math is yet another mere language, just one with more precision than English. If I can describe my gut feeling of useful information in math, and the machine manages to fulfill it, I see no reason to be upset. The machine has now become a tool capable of aligning me towards God, just as text printed on processed wood fibers was capable of such.
“ID” was invented after WWII. It can die in a ditch with so many other post-WWII inventions. Possession of facial recognition technology should be a crime punishable by death. It is more dangerous than nuclear material.
Elon Musk is a great man among great men, but he is not defined by his participation in a “market economy”.
I endorse the use of legitimate force by violent men against my enemies. If you suggest that I should be at risk of arrest then we are at irreconcilably cross purposes.
Oh come on. Musk is the guy behind Trump’s imminent cancellation of the electric car subsidy. SpaceX profitability is predominantly Starlink. Is Starlink a government project? Did Musk become rich by government favors? You think the Rothschilds gave him his money and Harvard gave him rockets?
Musk treats most of his launches as a capital charge against Starlink, and then raises capital for Starlink against its future revenue from people currently using and paying for Starlink. That is the free market and the market economy.
As it happens, it is a technology that I possess and my sons possess. That genie is not going back in the bottle. We are going to have to live in a world where lots of people, some of them very bad people, possess facial recognition technology, large language models, and nuclear weapons. And when these are in the hands of very bad people, we will need swords as sharp as theirs are.
Musk’s plan for electric cars is de-regulation for autonomous driving and robot taxis, high tariffs on Chinese electric cars, ending the subsidy, and ending the coercive measures to force people from gasoline to electric. National Capitalism. National Capitalism is the market economy within the jurisdiction of the sovereign, and the market economy limited by bilateral trade deals between sovereigns externally.
I don’t know anything about car subsidies so I can’t comment on that.
Starlink is a global de facto monopoly ISP (and maybe soon cellular provider) enabled by a new and categorically superior rocket technology spearheaded by Musk that is orders of magnitude less costly than anything provided by Boeing, Lockheed-Martin, or any other aerospace defense contractor. It is based in Texas and is subject to the long arm of the U.S. security state. Will it ever be apportioned budget from the Congress? No. Is it possible to imagine a technology suite more characteristic of sovereign power? I can’t. When something is deployed as a commercial enterprise that doesn’t tell you about much more than its funding mechanism. The fucking garbage in U.S.-regulated food and drugs is biochemical warfare deployed by plausibly deniable commercial means.
We all have the capability to wiretap each others’ phones but in most states it’s a felony. Although relegated to the state level it should be a federal issue because the phone lines (and now the internet) are instrumentalities of interstate commerce. If I can sue your ass for millions for running facial recognition on me you won’t do it. Liability is everything.
I support cartel deregulation as well as legal sanctions on commercial fuckery.
And that sovereign power is Musk and his investors, not the deep state. And Musk and his investors are, unlike the state, answerable to their customers.
The funding mechanism tells you where the power is.
Again you make the implication that the Rothschilds funded Musk and Harvard granted him his rocket technology.
We know Musk’s funding mechanism: Payments by satisfied customers, and capital from investors in expectation of more payments by satisfied customers. I use Starlink. I am therefore one of many people funding Musk. Which was again demonstrated when Musk purchased Twitter.
Rogan and the like get eyeballs for advertisers, but the advertisers are not in control. Rogan is in control. And Rogan is not in control, for his control depends on the will of viewers. Musk and Rogan are the free market at work.
Rogan has a lot of power, and Musk is the second most powerful man in the world, which is why the DoJ and the EPA were planning to destroy him. But they have power only because they satisfy their customers.
“Again you make the implication that the Rothschilds funded Musk and Harvard granted him his rocket technology.”
I never implied that, hinted that, or suggested that.
Longer comment later.
Commercial corporations cannot be loci of true sovereign power because they do not have the access controls necessary to successfully resist infiltration by or otherwise keep secrets from the intelligence community. They can be and usually are very powerful arms of true sovereign power. Musk is a genius and an extremely valuable asset.
The funding mechanism is not where the power is, especially when the customer base is large and varied. Starlink must provide a valuable product or service for its users. As the Ma Bell of Earth Starlink can gather NSA-level signals intelligence. Remember Western Union? Remember AT&T’s Room 641A? Same deal. In matters of state what can be will be.
Musk heads several planned economies, as all corporations are. For 20 years he built SpaceX on USG contracts. Now most of SpaceX I assume is funded by Starlink satellites. Fine. Let’s not pretend that this is freemarket libertarianism at work just because he catapulted himself beyond the lazy bumfuck defense contractors by developing objectively vastly superior technology. Superior technology usually prevails no matter your economic structure, especially when the technology in question is war or war-adjacent. Fire prevailed. The wheel prevailed. Bronze prevailed. Steam prevailed. Electricity prevailed. The computer prevailed. Reusable rockets are prevailing.
For Rogan your argument is much more valid. No one has coerced anyone to listen to him, they do it because he is fair and reasonable and they like him. I like him.
Musk’s most valuable assets are in his head. Should he need to flee the country, as was becoming increasingly likely, control of the Starlink network would go with him. Which gives him considerable sovereign power. Musk owns the first space based major business asset.
His major power is the internet in space, and X. X servers are eath based, and can be seized, and there has been a pile of lawfare to seize it, but if he has the software, and the internet in space, he can relaunch X from anywhere, and everyone will see it as the real X, and the seized one as counterfeit.
His rockets and rocket factory can be seized, and his engineers will reluctantly accept the leadership of tech lead Shaniqua, but should he flee, the West’s rocketry will resume its slow decline, while someone else’s rockets start to progress remarkably. Russia has been complaining “Where is our Elon Musk”.
Organization is hard, not easy. The reason Musk has leverage is because noone else can provide what he provides. And what he provides is potency. So Musk has potency.
His acquisition of xitter was him taking steps towards not just being a good decision to make, but being one of those who make decisions.
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And inserting himself into Team Trump is, of course, a significantly bigger step.
Please, not the Moldbug gold-plated retirement plan for our mortal enemies.
It’s happening…
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/radical-left-activates-anti-trump-protests-midtown-manhattan
https://x.com/Osint613/status/1855331514784919900
https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1855354242883883472
To crush these unwashed pusbuckets that are out polluting the streets, you need to go after their street ops bosses, middleman organizers/advertisers, the office branches, and their funders at the top. Infiltrate, track, trace, interrogate, disappear them… work your way till you reach the money, and terminate that money flow by any and all means possible.
Marxist politicians and nasty females pumping instigating sewage out their mouth also need put on full rebuke, run out, and quite frankly bitchslapped, hard.
No money, no political pump… no colour revolution.
Also, buy guns, ammo, food, supplies, fuel, comms, now, just in case it gets a bit rowdy in your country or region.
Midtown Manhattan, because New York governor is activating them. The federal government left are paralysed, their minions have stopped paying attention to them, because they will not have control of the gravy train for much longer, but the state level left is still functional.
If you are in a red state, you will have no problems. If you are in a red area within a blue state, there is risk, but the actual violence will not be launched until Trump makes a start on implementing the Trump program. There are elements of the left that are itching for civil war, also war with Russia and China.
A single unitary rational tactician would launch civil war now, or not at all, but because power within the left is divided and the left is insane, likely conduct is to launch civil war at the most inopportune time.
A: “You can’t just round up and deport 18 million people, it’s not practically possible.”
S: “Why are you denying the holocaust.”
Thou art legend.
I was at a convenience store today, and ahead of me in line were a couple of white ladies, and some blacks from Haiti. Behind the counter was a Hispanic that couldn’t speak English. The Hispanic woman was making a mess of things, and the Haitians were helping her. Nothing was working at the register and the two white ladies were getting pissed. Suddenly they started openly cursing immigrants and praising God that Trump was elected, and celebrating. It was pretty surreal. One of the white ladies came and gave me a hug. I hadn’t said a word she just looked up at me and put her head on my chest and said thank God that Trump was going to get rid of them.
I’ve never seen anything like that in my life. It was pretty awesome. And I have seen more white people smiling and happy than pretty much any time since the great minority mortgage meltdown.
Granted I live in a red town in a red county in a very red state. But to see normal people shitting on browns and blacks openly in public seems almost miraculous.
The correct red pilled meme for right wingers is “Back to the kitchen, woman!” And not some too-clever-by-half variation of leftist retard bullshit about female body and choice.
Fuentes is an enemy agent. Your skepticism, and Jim’s, is understandable.
A good tactic (or meme) is one your side enjoys, and which demoralizes the enemy.
Women laugh at rape jokes more than men do when they’re delivered by Chad not Urkel. (I wish I kept a link to the “rape card trick,” where a young guy starts dealing cards into the hand of a young woman and tells her to say “stop” when she wants, implying he’ll do something around telling her which card it is. When she does say stop, he just keeps dealing. The woman and her female friend both laugh and lean in when they get it.)
The younger generation of real world edgelord /ourguys/ are Chaddier than either side really pictures. Fit athletic edgelords, skinnyfat leftists is a real thing at all generations, but especially so among the youngest. And high school girls falling in line with it to the dismay of their teachers is already a thing.
By the nature of his tasking, enemy agent Fuentes has the job of rushing to the head of the parade and pretending he’s leading it. This forces him to engage with our memes, and throw out some red meat from time to time. It’s not impossible he’d innovate something with memetic traction by accident.
“Her body my choice” is clearly not a line I’m dropping with the in-laws at Thanksgiving, or with boomers at work. Delivered with humor and confidence in other settings I can see it sailing right past womens’ filter easier than some mens’. I don’t need to wear it on a t-shirt myself, or put it in the GOP platform, to let it ride in other circumstances.
This one’s bordering on a Scissors Question, a network shatter technique. Whether it grew up organically or was planted, I don’t need to cast either side of the argument into outer darkness over it.
Actually I am not very familiar with Nick Fuentes or many of these people talked about on this blog. I wasn’t aware he is an enemy agent.
Nevertheless based on the discussion earlier I felt it is a relatively low effort meme and not very punchy/effective at conveying the red pill, since it uses the leftist frame.
Off topic: I’m coming to miss the old reverse threading scheme for comments. I recall it was a big adjustment for me when I first came here, but now I see the utility of it.
Seconding this and adding that it was nice having the Previous/Next Post element at the top of the page. It was nice to be able to refresh at the top of the page and have everything new show up congruently in the same place.
Thirding this.
I’d like to be able to refresh the “Jim’s blog” tab and have all the updates at the top like they used to be. New posts, new comments, etc.
I have a few things to do before I started mucking around with PHP again. You can navigate around by the recent posts widget and archives link. But yes, you are right. There should be a forwards and backwards link.
The Kubrik theme has an option and code to display navigation links. It is supposed to display navigation links by default. It is not showing them.
So I reverted the theme to its unmodified state. Still not showing them. Looks like a bug. This is not the first time WordPress has done strange things I do not understand, and I am still distressed by my last battle with wordpress.
It’s not hard.
It won’t cost a cent…and if fact saves tax $.
Exec. order, new policy, new law…we don’t care about the courts (“How many divisions does the Pope have?”):
Stop the $ in free ER, schools for illegal kids, section 8, obozo phone, food stamps, EITC: earned income tax benefits for illegals based on the # of family members, HUD housing, in-state tuition…
…AND THEY WILL SELF-DEPORT.
Trump gained with Hispanics across the board, and flipped Starr county Texas Republican for the first time since 1892 by… promising mass deportation. Sounds strange, except I’ve long thought spics would fall in line and follow a tall blond macho white guy over a leftist squatemalen.
Then, papa boomer iSteve is highlighting the Trump campaign’s ads pounding Kamala on trannyism as boosting Trump, not with rednecks, but with… black and brown males, and suburban white soccer moms.
Moral of both: might as well go big. You get no credit with voters for splitting the difference when the left can always outbid you, but you garner a strange new respect for going extreme.
So yeah, might as well go for mass deportations. The media will shriek the same whether you do it for real or only deny asylum to one hardened criminal, while the voters will back the strong horse more than they would a compromiser, so what the hell.
I don’t see why we wouldn’t also de-bank, de-gibs, and disemploy illegals while we’re at it. Tiptoeing up to doing that and only that would be a political battle in its own right, but doing it in the shadow of mass deportation would be a freebie.
You’re right about all that, but the will is lacking.
In other news, I see that some blue states are taking forever to cook enough votes to get Kamala over 50% in the popular. So fake, so gay, and so Shaniqua too I might add, because the fuck is taking them so long?
“I’m on break!”
Sorry, but she be gettin’ her nails done and can’t type, mmmmm hmmmm.
Thermidor does not want to deport a single illegal alien. Vance talks based, but he’s Thermidor to the core.
Vance is Thermidor, Musk is Dark Maga. Trump is promoting Musk to the thermidoreans. Does this mean Trump is now Dark Maga? After being convicted of umpteen bogus felonies and nearly getting shot, he should be.
Thermidor wants to freeze the Ukraine war so that they can resume it once Trump makes America Great Again. Putin is not going to buy that. He wants Ukraine to be neutral, disarmed, and denazified with permanent and internationally recognised buffer state status.
Maga wants to end the Ukraine War. Dark Maga wants to restore the Republic, and suspects that to restore the Republic, some people will need to be given long distance swimming lessons.
The Ukraine is run from Washington. Once the puppet strings are cut, poof, it is gone. It will be necessary to recreate a government from scratch. When the Romans left Britain, the Romano Britons were unable to put together a government. England was completely overrun and obliterated by armed foreigners. Once the puppet’s strings are cut, the Ukrainian soldiers are going to their individual homes and not coming back.
@jim
there is have been massive push by cards payment companies to force anime and manga venders to censore their contents ,
is there a viable crypto alternative ?
Sure. I use crypto currency all the time to buy stuff over the internet. There is no alternative when you are dealing with small and intermediate sized businesses beyond the global American empire.
It is very easy when the people you are dealing with are hodlers with their own wallet. And for this reason a lot of businesses beyond the empire have got into hodling. But a lot of businesses do not want to run their own wallet, in which case they should use use the Cryptomus payment service, and you should use Litecoin. Cryptomus accepts Bitcoin, but as the Bitcoin naysayers correctly point out, that leads to grief. Bitcoin transactions are too slow and too traceable. Litecoin transactions using the new mweb addresses are fast and untraceable.
But if you are dealing with a hodler, and you usually are, Bitcoin, obviously. All the businesses that are hodling use Bitcoin because all the other businesses that are hodling use Bitcoin. If you have to transact with Cryptomus, litecoin. Keep your Litecoin in mweb addresses, addresses beginning with ltcwmeb1.
Quite likely Liquid, a layer two bitcoin, works with Cryptomus, but I have not tried that. Layer One Bitcoin sort of works with Cryptomus, but I recommend you do not try it. You will suffer.
Like I said before, JP is getting cucked because they got too much attention (every kid loves anime now). KR stuff is kind of safe still, but when they find out what they are writing in KR novels, those are going to get cooked too.
Tbh, JP stuff always seemed effeminate with the usual MC being like “You can beat me up instead of my friend”.
Me: “The number of white people declined from the 2010 census to the 2020 census.”
Pax Imp: “Stop being so damn obsessed over absolute numbers”
What the fuck?
Some white people matter more than others.
You pulled out declines in the White population as proof the left is genociding you.
The left wants to genocide you, there’s no question about that, but with how large the empire is, and how bubble-esque white left power is, you can skirt their castrations and estrogen as easily as you can skirt their censorship. The result is that the vast, vast, majority of whites getting genocided are leftists and their own tools. So yes, you should not be so damn obsessed over absolute numbers of whites. Look at the demographic trends of the past few decades. All the quality whites that matter for establishing a patriarchy based order are going to get through this just fine.
The major concern was that they would escalate and disallow skirting or escape, but Trump was a giant wrench in their machinations the last time around, and now it looks like he will completely dismantle them this time around. You were not getting genocided before when they wanted to, and you will not get genocided in the future because they will be gone.
Again, look at the white demographics broken down by religion and politics. The population is set to decline in absolute numbers, it’s baked into the population, but also the right segments of population is set to rebound massively with higher quality.
High-IQ women are in a gene shredder.
I’ve seen Erik Prince agitating for something like color revolution in Venezuela for a while now. Now that Thermidor is (close to being) in power, high odds he gets to make it happen.
I think, this being Venezuela, he wants to do as Wagner did in Libya, and fund a PMC by providing ‘security’ for the vast oil reserves found there. Just a side quest I’ve been following, wanted to mention it as I haven’t seen anyone else do so.
We’re already going to war with the cartels. Hell, might as well stop by all the Latin American attractions. My DOD career may yet be saved from woke speechcrime legal trouble.
Pick up a castiza war bride or two for me. If you catch Prince’s ear be sure to advocate for this Reconquista fertility program https://memorients.com/articles/raptus-conquest-and-abduction-in-iberia-negotiating-gender-in-la-reconquista (h.t. Aidan)
>war bride
As an Officer and a
savageuh I mean gentleman I promise to not bring war brides to you and our company…Shh, such talk gets you a PAC complaint these days… an Equal Opportunities investigation, a command investigation, a command investigation into the investigations, a command investigation into the investigation into the investigations… and maybe a surprise SAPR investigation because “offensive” is now “harassment” is now “assault”. True, it will likely result is a minor slap on the wrist, and nearly all the JAGs and private military lawyers will laugh about it not being serious, but woke DOD will put your career on hold for anywhere between 10 months and 4 years with the specter of ADSEP hanging over your neck the entire time and document all the negative paperwork in the commandant’s black-book for time immemorial. You’ll be torn away from your command and brother in arms and placed in legal hold. Paid to do nothing but sit around and wait. Almost a professional NEET who finds they have all the time in the world to consume tax payer monies while posting on strange website on the interwebs which munching on chow hall slop.
I can neither confirm nor deny the above being exaggerated satire or having any relation to my personal circumstances.
Anyways thanks for the linked knowledge.
Praying for things to turn around so drastically you’re the one running the tribunals.
Thinking about it, would be wonderful if our thoughtcrimes became policy, we could all facefag and have a good time instead of hiding behind screens and fake emails.
Right now, Thermidor is in control. It is possible, indeed probable, that soon Dark Maga will be in control. Which will be great, a huge victory. But we are a fair bit more radical than Dark Maga.
Thing is, Thermidor, Maga, and Dark Maga are aiming to hold a stable position on a slippery slope and fight a holy war without a faith. Expect the unexpected. Fairily regular behaviour of Thermidor is that it discovers that they need reaction, and do not much like needing reaction.
So it’s been a few years. Anyone got a status update on the vaxxed? How are they doing from your reports?
Jim, do you know if the vax is still killing people or was all the clot shotting temporary stuff?
All of the people who already died from Suddenly are already dead, of course.
The people who simply got long-term health problems would be a bit harder to quantify.
I’m sure plenty of people are alive now who would not be, if the Covidians who wanted to impose once-a-month, every month “boosters” of the clot shot had gotten their way.
Here’s a resource that combines smart stuff with crazy stuff on this topic and others.
Surprisingly solid stuff within the smart stuff sections.
https://expose-news.com/
But broadly speaking, the world is trying to mostly ignore a formidable rise in excess deaths and disabilities and cancers, and mentions it only in passing as some self-evident result of the spike flu, and global warming, and stress, and white supremacy etc.
We’ll see if Kennedy will be the sword that cuts through the crap.
Jim, RE: the Australia solution, I am told that the counterattack by the Australian left was to massively increase the amount of “refugee” visas handed out, to the point I was told the number “doubled” after they got a new head of government, and nearly doubled again a few years later. While the illegals are still thrown out when found, this does not resolve the issue of “legal” invaders who should never have been allowed in the nation in the first place, much like the Indian, “Mexican” and Haitian immigrants on work visas etc. What is the solution to this internal undermining?
If you have a democracy, it is inevitable that sooner or later the people will lose the confidence of the government, and the government will dissolve the existing people and elect a new people.
Completely true, and (one of) the biggest problems with democracy in the first place. I’m simply concerned with removing the legal “temporary” migrants – while most would self-deport with the elimination of all financial support and assistance, and more would do so if they were forced to pay an additional say… 20% tax, on their already-taxed income as a “fee” for foreign birth or some other excuse, far too many would remain, especially among second- or later-generation imports. Just look at France, where the grandchildren of Algerian migrants who entered in the 1970’s are the ones who become jihadis.