People notice the overclass (brahman, in Moldbug’s terminology) hates whites. So they figure.
Well, people who think of themselves as white cannot possibly hate whites, so it must be Jews, who don’t consider themselves white, hating us.
Wrong.
The overclass hates whites because it is almost entirely white. It hates Jews because it is disproportionately Jewish. It hates males, marriage, and so on and so forth for much the same reasons.
And it hates all humans because it is composed of humans, hence the Greenie position that humans are a cancer upon the earth.
The left is the state and the state is the left, and the left has a long history of self destructive self hatred
The Populares (loose translation: Democratic Party, or People’s Popular Party of Rome) allied with the enemies of Rome, and did not seem to doubt the wisdom of this alliance, when during their civil war, in 82 BC, their allies showed up at the gates with the intention of not merely defeating the other side in the Roman civil war, but of permanently and completely destroying the city of Rome. The army of the Populares, seeking to rule Rome, fought shoulder to shoulder with the Samnites, seeking to destroy Rome, and against the army of Sulla, seeking to preserve the Roman Empire against internal and external enemies.
In 1647AD Chang Hsien-chong said:
Heaven brings forth innumerable things to nurture man.
Man has nothing good with which to recompense Heaven
Kill. Kill. Kill. Kill. Kill. Kill. Kill.
He committed an autogenocide more thorough than that of the Khmer Rouge. As with the Khmer Rouge, first killed the landlords for owning the land, then the intellectuals for insufficient ideological purity, then the peasants for insufficient collectivism, and so on and so forth.
To update his words to the twenty first century just substitute earth for heaven:
Earth brings forth innumerable things to nurture man.
Man has nothing good with which to recompense Earth
Kill. Kill. Kill. Kill. Kill. Kill. Kill.
10:10 no pressure.
Perhaps the reason is that leftism is always based on allying with those far away against those that are near, and leftism always gets lefter, so they wind up allying with trees against humans.
Perhaps the reason is that the easiest way to be holier than thou, the way that takes the least effort or thought, is to hate those closest to one for insufficient holiness.
Likely, both reasons and several more.
The liar-elite can’t help but despise the fool that believes their lies. The liar can’t help but despise themselves for needing them.
And how do you fight hate? Not with hate because then Luke becomes Vader and in the real world nukes get dropped on everyone’s head.
You fight hate with love. #JesusIsAGenius
And, as the red pill informs us, love is not wimpy-skimpy-roll-over-and-die. Love is strong and patient and assumes the sale.
As I’ve said earlier elsewhere, love also has rules. Rules for mutual benefit so that we collectively do not descend into a broken, lonely pool of cold leftist death.
I propose that, to defeat the Left, everywhere and forever, that we seduce the Left. We know the rules for seduction.
We should seduce individual leftists, institutions, and nations even.
Yes, a monarch would be best. For the monarch to have any power to govern, the people will have to truly, deeply yearn for a monarch.
No one seduces a Pimp Melonhead.
#F##k love your genocidal enemies. Which BTW I don’t think God actually wants now.
Get from us Satan.
So, VXXC, I was going to make a witty, impish comment about imagination and commas, but I didn’t.
I thought more about your comment. And, with all sobriety, I think that it is a very dangerous notion for a neoreactionary.
The Left/Cathedral/Elites are everywhere and control all the levers of power. If we were to hate them and tell them to “get from us”, what would that entail? To me, it sounds like it would involve much violence and hardship and the worst things about human nature because first we would have to carve out our own territory in order to cast the Left out of it. And, that is a battle we would lose. The Left controls nearly all the armaments of the world.
It is my impression that most of the people involved in the neoreactionary philosophy previously believed Leftist ideals, but abandoned them after noticing the lack of empirical support for them. They then, through research or observation, stumbled onto the red pill collection of truths about human nature. To cast away leftoids is to cast away future neoreactionaries.
My understanding of the neoreaction, and the red pill in general, is that we are researching and applying the conditions of social organization that are cognizant of the truths of human nature. We accept how people really are and are using that for good – to create more liberty and order in the world. Hating our enemies only spreads destructive chaos. Instead, we should strive to transform leftoids into neoreactionaries.
Furthermore, your comment smacks me of the “holier-than-thou” Puritanical and Pharisaic attitude which Jim and others have identified over the past few months as being the driving behavior behind the arrival of a Leftist singularity and all the death and destruction that follows it. If the neoreaction is only a Leftist ideal that has gone so far left that it circled back around to the right; then, I want no part of it. I want no part of something that leads to internment camps and nukes and more wasted lives.
Now, I am not suggesting that we accept leftist criminality, because patriarchal love involves discipline. But, the whole purpose of husbandry is to promote the well-being of all members of the herd. If we cast-out or slaughter the members of the flock for insufficient neoreactionary philosophical alignment, then there is no flock and the flock will likely turn on the neoreaction before that work is finished.
As an example of seducing the Left, consider the recent Duck Dynasty fluff-up. The liberal establishment shit-tested Phil Robertson with accusations of homophobia. Now, unlike so many others, Phil didn’t apologize – he agreed and amplified by basically saying, “Yes, I think homosexuality is wrong, and I can tell you about 50 other sins in the Bible. And, if you don’t like it, that’s okay – my family will just stop making new episodes of the most popular cable TV show ever.” Predictably, the left and A&E relented because Phil’s masculine dark triad display made their collective ginaz tinglez (narcissism – the controversy made the duckers more well known than ever, machiavellian – manipulated the left’s media machine into spreading hid biblical message, psychopathy – doesn’t care whose feelings he hurt in order to spread his message).
Maybe we ought to compile a set of neoreactionary conversation routines, like the old collections of pickup routines, in order to jump start the spread of the neoreactionary message into the wider population?
In closing, I think people adopt leftist ideals because those “holier-than-thou” attitudes cause the person to be pedestalized by society, much like society pedestalizes a hot girl. But, if we want the leftist to give us the levers of power, like a player would want the hot girl to give up her banging body, we need to depedestalize the leftist and seduce them with our neoreactionary truths. If we cast out the leftist/hot girl we do not enjoy the levers or power/her banging body. If attack her with hateful violence, we do not reach our goals and much chaotic desctruction would ensue, which is the opposite of what the neoreaction is trying to achieve.
I say all this as an earnest warning against what seems to be the spirit of your comment, VXXC, and not because I have any bones against you personally.
Phil Robertson observed “We know the enemy, but they do not know us”, a reference to Sun Tzu’s aphorism.
Mangan’s has this same article right now, about a Brahmin referring to the ways underclass men try to impress women as pathetic.
Looks like they’re kicking it up to the next level in Sweden:
http://topconservativenews.com/2013/12/marxists-explode-bomb-at-the-home-of-sweden-family-major-swedish-newspaper-directly-tied-to-the-attack/
Of course they hate you — they will always hate you. Hating you is a form of signalling. They hate reality and all who must deal with it. Living in an unreal bubble while advocating disastrous unreal public policy is clearly high status. Working for a living is low status.
Indeed.
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Every time I watch that ’10:10 no pressure’ video I cannot quite bring myself to believe it was made in total earnest and not the result of some insider sabotage and subversion. Just plausible enough to get the contract, but so absurdly demonstrative of the fanatically coercive nature of the climate campaign that it can’t possibly have been made by someone actually trying to rally the troops while making not-so-subtle threats to holdouts.
And then I see things like the Obamacare ho-surance ads, or pajama-boy, and I get the chills thinking, “Oh God, it’s not sabotage at all, is it? The true believers made this all by themselves and they really think it’s funny and effective. Lord protect us.”
It looked as if I scripted and directed it to colorfully dramatize and illustrate my wicked claim that warmists are blood crazed totalitarians.
They start with murdering children, and then the revolution devours its own.
But there are plenty more where that came from: Recall the cutting video on female circumcision. The Klu Klux Klan would have been embarassed to make that one.
These progressive anti-racists anti-female-circumcisionists conduct a “cake cutting” that is extremely mean-spirited toward the very targets of their charity. If white supremacists who advocate the forced sterilization of the entire black race did this then the cake cutting would not seem out of place, but this was supposedly done by their opposites.
The warmists really are blood crazed totalitarians, and the anti circumcision brigade really do hate and despise their mascots.
Recall how the animal rights activists wanted the worlds most cute and cuddly orphaned polar bear cub killed? Recall that animal rights activists do not have pets. Animal rights activists are, by and large, pretty much the same people who used to put cats in a sack, and put the sack on the fire for entertainment.
Consider the story of Macquarie Island.
Macquarie Island was a bird sanctuary. But feral cats were eating the birds. Oh, if you have watched Hanna Barbara cartoons, the mean Sylvester the cat is eating poor little tweety bird. So the eco scientists exterminated the cats.
Rabbits then multiplied and ate every green thing on the island, resulting in the absence of nesting materials, nesting sites, and massive erosion, and rats multiplied, launching gang attacks on nesting birds and eating them alive in a swarm of tiny bites.
The evil dominate the consensus, and from time to time, they display tone deaf behavior, and their evil is visible, as in “No Pressure”. Associating only with other derangedly evil people, they forget to hide their evil, they come out in public having forgotten to put their masks back on.
Hence their need for a middleman to do the actual propaganda for the masses. They’re terrible at it these days. Which could be a very powerful advantage if their propagandists jumped ship.
Red Middleman:
Ok, the img src= doesn’t work I guess. Try this then.
So, the wolf cannot blow the pig’s house down, so instead gets them to volunteer to drink the koolaid.
The trick to put images in comments is <img src=”http://i.imgur.com/u58K9nR.jpg” />
That picture is pretty much what happened to south Africa.
I somehow missed that cake cutting video. It’s particularly disgusting and beyond appalling. The KKK would be terrified of the prospect of something like that being videotaped and getting on youtube. Any individual would be terrified at even a false rumor associating them with it. And yet in that context it gets the equivalent of applause.
What gets me about it is that it clearly took a lot of time, money, effort, and planning to pull off – more than most people invest in their own wedding cakes. As ugly and horrible as it is – and like the ‘no pressure’ campaign – it certainly required a lot of professional-level skill and craftwork to pull it off, and probably the participation of a lot of people. Not to mention the guy in blackface pretending to moan chillingly at the cuts.
The originators of the project must not have encountered anyone who tried to push back against the revolting premise of the idea. Or else dismissed those concerns as prudish or oversensitive. At the very least, they had probably had no difficulty finding enough people to participate in these monstrous works.
I thought the 10:10 no pressure was horrible, but the fact that people could enjoy themselves with the cake bit was horrifying. The people there didn’t even seem human to me.
The cake simulation was merely group think, and herd mentality. If most oblige, then what’s wrong they suppose?
Most people act like that. Thus Cancer.
Merry Christmas Handle.
And a very merry Christmas to you VXXC
This was never a condition of our arrangement. The Oath gets worse all the time.
Here is a skirt, wig, and clown shoes.
This deal…is…..I’m proud to be part of it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpE_xMRiCLE
Humans are bacteria. Almost cancer. I’m no greenie.
“Risen killer apes” Remember that one?
On to your point:
“Perhaps the reason is that leftism is always based on allying with those far away against those that are near, and leftism always gets lefter, so they wind up allying with trees against humans.”
The ideology seems to suggest something of that sort.
It is a long way between bacteria and risen killer apes.
A large primate cannot afford a primate sized brain if it eats vegies. Eating meat enabled us to afford a large brain, enabled our brains to scale up with our bodies in the same ratio as is normal with smaller primates. Killing, however, gave us an urgent need for smarts, killing outgroups of our own species gave us an urgent need for smarts. We needed to cooperate, in order to compete.
Hardly a long way.
Gorillas have protruding stomachs because they eat veggies.
The rest sounds plausible, but lacking.
One of the striking differences between us and our near relatives is that the whites of our eyes are almost always white, while the equivalent in their eyes is almost always dark (and therefore protected from UV damage)
Our eyes are designed to make it easy to tell what we are looking at, so that we point with our eyes.
Our faces are also more expressive than their faces, we have muscle development for expression optimized for facial communication when the parties are looking directly at each other.
Our voice boxes can create a considerably wider range of sounds.
So, strong selection for communication, therefore, strong selection for the capacity for cooperative behavior in small groups.
Chimps hunt, chimps eat meat, chimps make war. Hunting large animals is very rare in the primate clade, and making war is very rare in the entire vertebrate clade.
Therefore, the common ancestor of chimps and men hunted and made war.
Making war, the way chimps and men do it, requires a lot of cooperation. Humans are optimized for cooperation, more so than chimps.
…and so strong selection for hypocrisy. 🙂 Lots to say, have no time. Thanks for the reply. I read every word.
Perhaps a real reply later, perhaps my first real reply ever… get your books out brah! I’m a comin’.
The British philosopher Roger Scruton has coined a term: oikophobia.
Xenophobia is fear of the alien; oikophobia is fear of the familiar: “the disposition, in any conflict, to side with ‘them’ against ‘us’, and the felt need to denigrate the customs, culture and institutions that are identifiably ‘ours.’
The oik repudiates national loyalties and defines his goals and ideals against the nation, promoting transnational institutions over national governments, accepting and endorsing laws that are imposed on us from on high by the EU or the UN and defines his political vision in terms of universal values that have been purified of all reference to the particular attachments of a real historical community.
The oik is, in his own eyes, a defender of enlightened universalism against local chauvinism. And it is the rise of the oik that has led to the growing crisis of legitimacy in the nation states of Europe. For we are seeing a massive expansion of the legislative burden on the people of Europe, and a relentless assault on the only loyalties that would enable them voluntarily to bear it. The explosive effect of this has already been felt in Holland and France. It will be felt soon everywhere, and the result may not be what the oiks expect.
http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052748704147804575455523068802824
Cosmopolitan status whoring. I’m sure it’s old as sin.
Chang Hsien-chong’s history is disputed.
The historians who portray him as a homicidal maniac had major conflicts of interest. They probably falsified records.
In fact, what Chang originally wrote was probably the following:
Heaven brings forth innumerable things to nurture man.
Man has nothing good with which to recompense Heaven.
The spirits and gods are knowing, so reflect on this and examine yourselves.
Of course it is disputed. Leftists lie about everything.
But there is clear and overwhelming evidence that the entire population of Szechwan was murdered, largely tortured to death, largely tortured each other to death, an extraordinary crime, without precedent in societies with written history. If not Chang, who? Who else had the power or the motive? Someone committed this quite extraordinary act.
Further, the historian on whom I rely is Donnithorde. What conflict of interest does Donnithorde have? What reason to lie or falsify records does he have?
Donnithorde says that the stele didn’t say “kill x7”, but that was the folk transmitted saying about the original stele which was found in Hanzhou, which says “The spirits and gods are knowing, so reflect on this and examine yourselves.”
And Donnithorde says it was Chang’s armies who tortured and killed the populace when they rebelled against him. Hardly “tortured each other”.
Donnithorde says that the stele did not say “kill kill kill kill kill kill kill”, but Chang did say “kill kill kill kill kill kill kill”
He cut the feet off his own concubine
Oh, c’mon…it’s not like she had some place to be…
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This post has been bothering me for some time, Jim. Something about it just didn’t sit right.
The way I see it is that the contempt of the “over class” is fairly earned; the average person is an uneducable f-tard. (Present company excepted of course). It is my expert scholarly opinion that this problem is getting worse too. Our universities educate morons beyond their intellect and have now become intellectual wastelands.
I think our self proclaimed ‘over class’ today fears us more than anything else. It is largely white and jewish because such people tend to be much more adaptable to various, rapidly changing political environments.
Not fairly earned. That our universities are wastelands reflects the fact that the overclass is becoming stupid. It was probably smartest around 1870 or so.
No doubt, Jim. But their mental decay is nothing compared to that of the rank and file citizen. Put it this way – who is dumber:
Barak Obama with his hopey-changiness and election platform that would have had him laughed out of the presidential race if he was white…
OR
… the legions of idiots, millions strong – that voted for him thinking that he would wave a magic wand and make all the problems caused by Bush to go away?
Further: Obama can’t even talk without a teleprompter. He can’t even memorize a speech! He can only win a debate when the race card is played and even then he has problems. His wife is a fat shrew. It is my position that somebody is pulling his strings. But who? The men that surround him are dummies and idiots as well.
Perhaps I should just shut up because going down that road leads to tin foil hats, straight jackets and psychosis. I would like to know who is really doing the driving and what their motives are.
There is no one at the wheel. It is turtles all the way down.
Holy crap!
Ya know Jim it would have taken me YEARS to come up with that one post – if I could at all. I have always been baffled by the mechanics of mass stupidity. I knew it existed but I could never explain how it morphed and moved.
That is an excellent piece of work!
THANK YOU JIM.
“my expert scholarly opinion”.
Fine but you are unfit to rule people you hate. Which is our problem, that you rule. Not that you take responsibility for it…another problem.
The reason people who aren’t really cut out for higher education are filling your universities is to pad your goddamn nest. And Goddamn you for this crime. These uneducable morons are there for you, not the other way round.
You are the criminal blaming your victims. They don’t want to be there, they don’t like having their time wasted, they are being pushed there from Junior High forward into your parasitic tentacles. You have quite successfully rigged the system so a college degree is a 65% Delta of income. You have sent legions of your truly moronic education majors who basically make the kids recite treason, vice, and more education [more money for you]. This means that without at least a 2 year degree [4 really] a prospective employer has no proof of even 6th grade literacy.
That’s YOU. Who is the Swine?
So they are only really stupid because they’re your victims.
Sadly for you and thankfully for them they’ve begun to realize this…you are the very core of the problem.
Si est Bellum, acadamae et dicit Ignit.
A king should do nothing but kill those who try to take a sliver of his power.
(or something like that written by the old one)
The average American has always been stupid. But have you compared American average to what passes for average in most parts of the world? Our dumb Americans look like rocket scientists compared to them. I’ve chatted with a guy from India who describes his first experience interacting with the very lowest casts in India. His family hired some people from the lower casts to do some work at his home. He described them as little better than automatons who could be told to do a repetitive task but was totally unable to handle any deviation from the simple way of doing things. They are in a word what we would describe as retarded. In India such people make close to the majority of the population. I’ll take stupid Americans over fully retarded 3ed worlders any day of the week.
Nations on the way up encourages the smartest, the strongest, the most successful to have the majority of the children and thus increasing the value of the group as a whole. Our elites encourage bad breeding at all levels and are actively trying to replace the portion of the populace that continues good breeding with 3ed world retards.
No conclusions should be drawn about any group until the social experiments are decades past. Never mind any policy made. It would be worst than unjust, it would be error.
All the dysfunctions we are seeing are artificial and the result of social experiments, in America the deliberate funding of weakness and vice at all levels of society.
For instance Wall Street attracts gamblers, under our current system this is encouraged and subsidized. Not exactly the lower class bottom of the Bell Curve…
If as many claim HBD is true once the completely false incentives to be stupid and evil at all levels are withdrawn, along with the punishments against truth and especially beauty are withdrawn, then who people are will naturally reassert itself. It’s genetic…right?
Would you want to permanently judge and make policy for Germans, Russians, Chinese based on the reigns of Hitler, Stalin, Mao?
Of course not.
Whatever you say about the old WASP ruling class they *did* allow the immigration cutoff of 1924 and (earlier) the Chinese Exclusion Act. Similarly,
there was no effort at race replacement in 19th Century England. Plenty of Indians were sent by the British to Fiji, Trinidad, Mauritius and elsewhere in the Empire.
Go where the Overclass dares not…
EXIT to Josephine county Oregon.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/12/26/citizens-take-law-into-own-hands-after-cash-strapped-ore-county-guts-sheriff/
“When budget woes reduced the sheriff’s department in one rural Oregon county to a bare-bones force, residents decided to take matters into their own hands — creating armed patrol groups in defiance of local officials.
Their decision has raised safety concerns with the county government, which would prefer residents instead hike their own taxes to fund the hiring of trained deputies. But despite the risks, the move stands as a unique, some would say innovative, response to one of the country’s most severe local budget crunches.
The government in Josephine County, where nearly 70 percent of the land is owned by the U.S. government, had long relied on federal timber subsidies to pay the bills. When the feds terminated the funds, county officials scrambled to pass a May 2012 tax levy to make up a nearly $7.5 million budget shortfall.”
“The average American has always been stupid.”
Hmm.
No enemies to the Right except Quislings. No friends to the Left you are wasting your time [their interests are with the State].
The Average American is conservative, which means he’s a reactionary that doesn’t know it yet.
jim says,”… Well, people who think of themselves as white cannot possibly hate whites, so it must be Jews, who don’t consider themselves white, hating us.
Wrong…”
What you’ve said is not completely correct either. This came to me in reference to an article Derbyshire wrote. He said that the people who are antisocial who are White are around 10%-15% but the numbers of Blacks who are antisocial are around 40%-50%. The antisocial Whites in smaller numbers society can handle but the far higher numbers of antisocial Blacks are too much for society to handle. The numbers may not be exactly correct but in the ball park. The same applies to the Jews. The number of anti-White Whites is a smaller number but the number of anti-Whites Jews is a vastly larger number. The combination of the ever present anti-White Whites with the anti-White Jews and the anti-White Blacks has overwhelmed Whites ability to defend themselves.
The solution is to deport the Jews and Blacks then socially destroy the anti-White Whites.
Which is politically impossible. But sounds about right.
Similarly I can (and have in great detail) imagined the perfect society. Not only how to perpetuate one, but how to keep and hold one. The problem is in the details – the political and economic climate has great influence.
In other words, writing a one paragraph version of The Hobbit, is all fine and well, but reality says, go fuck yourself.
As it did to me.
Yes I know I’m fucked but I can bitch about it.
I don’t believe in utopia. My personal belief is that something close to the founding fathers of America is about as good as you can do with Humans. Some kind of voting qualification. Property, pole tax, literacy test. Maybe all, some or any combination of the above. This would immediately change voting dynamics, if the votes are not all stolen. Saying it can’t happen is not necessarily true. Maybe “right this second” but no one absolutely knows the future. Getting rid of voting for Senatorial races would be a good start. The States could reign in the Federal government a bit.
Power is the problem. The power to make good choices has the power to make bad choices.
It’s a very delicate balancing act.
Oh, and let me respond to your comment too… doh!
I know too little to give a valued response. I don’t read history. When I’m retired, I will read history. I gotta stay up to date, and technology changes so fast, if you want to keep up, then who has time for Victorian (or any) history? Not me. And possibly not you.
First sentence = agree.
2nd sentence = agree, with modification, but I get it.
Sam, have you read the liberty site yet? Or *gasp* even a speech or two on Anarcho-Capitalism given by David Friedman, or literary work by Jim himself on the matter?
I’m the last guy to know about these things in detail. But just for fun:
https://reaction.la
I don’t pretend to be some uber-blogger, but that’s a good place to start.
I’ve only read in totality M Friedman, Spooner, and D. Friedman, with Spooner winning that contest. But I’m biased… I wrecked his output in a day. A rare free day.
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