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Limited Hangout on the awesome might of the Covid Demon

I seldom report on the latest news of the day, because there are loads of people covering it with intense attention, most of them far better informed on details of the latest events than I am, which noise tends to drown out the perspective that enables one to see what is happening over the longer time scale. Today’s events are far better understood from a perspective that sees them as a continuation and unfolding detail of the events of 1660 and 1832.

But we now see a limited hangout on the awesome might of the Covid demon. This is the final report of the House Oversight Committee, so it is officially official. Too long, don’t read. It admits every conspiracy theory about Covid was true, while presupposing that the Covid Demon was awesome and mighty, though perhaps a little less mighty than originally advertised, and admitting the jab is dangerous and causes lasting harm, while massively playing down Sudden Adult Death Syndrome, Turbo Cancer, brain fog, and infertility.

This is a continuation and update of my previous post “Sudden Swerve on the way to the left singularity

Worshippers of the Covid Demon wanted to shut down Western science and industry (because stolen from the brave and stunning warrior women of subsaharan Africa by white male rapists), and erase the white race. When War with Russia loomed, the world conquering globohomo empire suddenly realised it needed white males and industry in order to conquer.

Thermidor is a temporary and fragile alliance between would-be world conquerors who want to remove elements of leftism incompatible with science, technology, and industry, such as Covid worship and Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion, so that successful globohmo world conquest can continue, and would-be world conquerors who in addition want a short pause in world conquest, until America is in a better position to succeed, and have realised they cannot do it while carrying DEI, Catastrophic Anthropogenic Global Climate Change, and all the rest on their backs.

The initial swerve shrugged of Covid while pretending to continue it. Thermidor has just dumped Covid, rather than merely having it quietly ignored, and now wants to dump DEI. A whole lot more needs to be dumped, and Trump and Trump’s cabinet have a little list. Reaction and the alt right have a considerably longer list. Our time is not yet, but it will come.

But to get anything done one needs a leader, The pandemonium that was pulling the strings of the Kamala and Biden puppets did not have a leader. Biden was chosen as a placeholder pending agreement on an actual leader, and they never agreed. And even less does Thermidor have a leader. So, Thermidor allowed Trump to be elected.

And Trump, whatever his grievous faults, is an isolationist. He is in coalition with the Thermidorean globohomo world conquerors, but his coalition also includes other isolationists. Trump, whatever his grievous faults, supports the Peace of Westphalia. The Thermidorean coalition, all of it, opposes the Peace of Westphalia.

The House oversight committee report was a bomb going off under Covid Worship. More bombs are likely in future.

Trump can sell isolation to those elements of Thermidor who want an orderly and temporary retreat from outer provinces of empire, and it is likely to remain ambiguous for quite a while whether he is capitulating to Globohomo imperialism, or betraying it. If, as is likely, it becomes apparent he is betraying it, things will get interesting.

Thermidor is the left dumping the far left, because dangerously insane. But to nail the far left in the nads, they have little choice but to ally with the right, as Thermidor always does. This alliance is apt to become tense, fragile, and explosive.

265 comments Limited Hangout on the awesome might of the Covid Demon

Travis says:

There is a new demon. The real Birdemic Flu/Cow demon. For now it only infects raw milk and criminal alien dairy workers but they are trying to grow the demon……

Adam says:

The Cathedral’s ability to stoke fear is diminishing. Assuming DOGE (and the rest of the Trump cabinet) does anything useful at all, the megaphone is set to be downsized. Not to mention, “official” sources are all discredited and disgraced at this point.

If Trump plays his cards right the next few years will mostly consist of left vs. left power struggles while the productive working class goes about its business.

Anonymous Fake says:

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Jim says:

Deleted because it does not sound much like the Trump cabinet.

Bix Nudelmann says:

So no more Covid, and Ukraine is getting skunked so bad they’re running out of men entirely. Tatters!

So what next?

New virus? I doubt it.

Climate emergency, but really for real this time? I doubt that too.

ChinaChinaChina? That would be racist, so no.

Double down on nigger worship? I can’t see it. Saint Floyd was just too ridiculous, we’ve come down from that high, and it’s never as good as the first time.

My wild card guess is something-something AI, crypto, killer drones and Teslabots as the new angelic victim class in doe-eyed desperate need of Ivy League Jews to liberate them from white male techbros. I’m not kidding. That’s how I took Blade Runner 2049, as the setup mythology for exactly that new kind of righteous cause.

But I can’t bet on it either.

Niggers, jungle and sand, are still running rampant all over the West, and Whites are still scared shitless of standing up for themselves, so probably that somehow, but in some new way, the details of which I can’t guess.

(And you?)

Cloudswrest says:

So what next?

They are currently running the, “He is falling” propaganda script on Assad and Syria. On “X” some Homs defender claimed it was all bullshit.

Adûnâi says:

This is indeed such a curious time. I can already imagine 3 years from now looking back at Dec 2024 and laughing at our naïveté. Charlottesville 2017, anyone?

Alternatively, Trump kicks the bucket, and all hell breaks loose. One can dream. The world is Gaza, and you’re in it the floating pier.

Calvin says:

So, Assad has finally gotten Mossaded, apparently thanks to Turkey. I wonder how much longer there will exist any Christians in Syria.

Jim says:

He is falling. They gave up on color revolution in Syria long ago, for old fashioned armed invasion.

Bix Nudelmann says:

I still have essentially no idea what the hell Syria has been about, and to all these different groups of people all over the world too, no less.

Israel’s neighborhood, OK. Gas pipeline right of way, OK. Russian navy base, got it. This White Helmets thing, yeah sure.

But just like how the mainstream news never brings up the Maidan Square snipers, or shelling Donbass villages with fucking Howitzers, or where these awesome East Ukrainian defensive mega strictures came from, or the fact that Ukraine is run by CIA Nazis and Jews, there’s never been a Nightline or 60 minutes (or Joe Rogan podcast for that matter) about what the fuck this Syrian civil war is all about, and who the sides even are, who pays for it all, and why they care so much.

“He’ll tell you what someone did to him, but will never tell you why.”

If any of you can point me to a decent backgrounder on this, please do, because cripes I can barely stand being lied to about it for much longer..

ayyylmao says:

“Israel’s neighborhood, OK. Gas pipeline right of way, OK. Russian navy base, got it. This White Helmets thing, yeah sure.”

It’s a little of each of those plus killing off old (and eugenic) Middle Eastern races and destroying some and surreptitiously seizing some ancient historical artifacts. Weighted by influence energy is the predominant security interest.

Alex says:

It’s another front in the existential war against Trumputler, i.e., unaplogetic white men. The idea is to get the helots to maintain the infrastructure or weapons manufacture while relegating them to 2nd class citizens.

Fidelis says:

This one is for Com

Unlike more concrete examinations of one’s fitness to serve in a public health regime—like, for instance, any tangible background in medicine or health policy—the test reveals itself to be a free-associative chimera of IQ-ish logic puzzles and the sort of discredited Meyers-Briggs queries you used to take in Computer Lab

https://archive.is/TeffV

They’re bringing in IQ tests for the mandarinate.

Jim says:

This is insanely good news. Only the older among our enemies will be able to pass. And, reading between the lines, Luke Winkie knows that he and his colleagues are just plain dumb.

Fred says:

> any tangible background in medicine or health policy

And didn’t they do so much good for us during the Covid scam? One of the lessons of the Covid scam is that we pay too much attention to credentialled people (“experts”) and not enough attention to smart people in general (though there were genuine experts in the field who pushed back on the scam, like Bhattacharya).

Remember, the Covid scam was not debunked by “experts” – it was debunked mostly by smart people who had some tangential skills in relevant fields, eg. statistics.

(BTW Jim, the Reply buttons aren’t working properly)

Contaminated NEET says:

> OMG, that test is like so ~weird! It’s also discredited!

What a fucking fag that Slate author is. Every corporate or government job I’ve ever had has given tests like that. Not to get hired, true, because that would be raaacist, but once you’re in, they love those kinds of things. The agency I work for right now pays consultants a fortune to give everyone these tests 2 or 3 times a year. I’m tempted to name a couple of them I did recently, but I don’t want to leave dox breadcrumbs; I’m sure most people in cubicle land are familiar with these. Granted, a lot of the stuff is obvious bullshit, but to act like it’s a deranged and out-of-left-field idea is either dishonest or extremely out of touch, and the way he does it is feminine mean-girl nonsense.

Pax Imperialis says:

It’s funny how adverse we are as a culture to being assessed. Even the military gets shy about it. Every officer in the military gets an IQ and personality test, but they are subtle about it. They don’t call it an IQ test or even a test, and they call the personality test university research. Some of the smooth brain officers were shocked and upset when I pointed out what they took. The female ones took it awfully badly.

Napoleon says:

Humans are hardwired to be hyper sensitive to status differences. (For multiple reasons, including a warning system for you when get too close to the bottom – “You might not survive, do something”, ensuring you don’t act inappropriately around someone high status & powerful & getting your head chopped off, and ascertaining quickly who is where in the pecking order to enable & enhance cooperation.)

As we know, the software memeplex of leftism and “equality” is a rebellion against reality (by those who don’t deserve high status, because nervous about the fact that they don’t deserve it; so they create a new/false status hierarchy by priesting). The equality memeplex “people are basically equal” has dominated our society to the point where normies accept it. So any hard data – like an IQ test – that explicitly demonstrates the reality that humans are vastly unequal in their capabilities comes as an emotional shock.

I was well into my adult life before I realized that the reason I was so different than most people in various ways is because my IQ is way higher than the vast majority of people. It instantly explained so much, but it was a shock. I have often wondered what that shock must feel like to a person with an avg or low IQ. Must feel horrible, in a culture with no real community and no honor conferred on you for doing your duty regardless of your abilities.

It used to be (in the West) that everyone in society basically accepted their station in life, and the emotional distress of knowing you were not high status because you just don’t have what it takes to be high status was ameliorated by a culture of duty and honor: whatever your station in life or natural capabilities, if you do your duty for the success of the tribe/group/community/nation you are worthy of honor.

When the time comes, cultural restoration of the harsh reality of the vast biological inequality of humans will need to be accompanied by restoration of duty and honor. (As part of king + healthy state religion.)

Jim says:

Realising there is a huge IQ difference makes it easy to communicate across the IQ gap. A whole lot of people are deeply damaged by growing up unable to communicate with those around them. I get on with cats, dogs, and women OK. Took me a while to learn how to talk to normie males.

JustAnotherGuy says:

“A whole lot of people are deeply damaged by growing up unable to communicate with those around them.”

We like to use the medically safe and effective term known as ‘introverts’ in these demon-infested times.

Jehu says:

It’s a lot easier to accept your station in life when being 50th percentile means getting a non-overweight virgin of average otherwise attractiveness as a wife who treats you reasonably respectfully. People who can’t get that reliably are quite right to be discontented and constantly seeking to change the rules to improve their lot. The problem is most ordinary white men believe it’s grossly immoral to take their own side in such contests.

The Cominator says:

wtf happened in Syria BTW did the spooks divert all the Ukraine arms (it being obviously a lost cause) to Al Qaeda in Syria?

Fred says:

Not a surprise at all – Assad has been obviously good as gone for over a week now. Where were you getting your news from?

The Cominator says:

I wasn’t paying too much attention and until a couple days ago I thought it was fake and gay color revolutionesque propaganda but how did this all happen in a week.

Mayflower Sperg says:

Weeb Union observed that the rebels had the latest FPV drone tech that we see in the Ukraine war, while the Assad regime had no drones at all.

The Cominator says:

perhaps the cia just spread billions in bribes around…

Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

The simple matter of things is jihadi proxy forces hopped in their technicals and did a thunder run down the highway all the way across the country from Aleppo to Damascus, and arabs are naturally both excitable and don’t deal well with rapid operational tempos if they aren’t the ones setting the pace.

What are the strategic failures? Not wiping the proxy forces out via siege when they were weak (Erdogan’s treachery in supporting them across the border is pertinent here); not cutting off their retreat to the north via the sea when the tides of the war turned; not having ordnance assets ready to blow shit driving on the highways up; much of the Russian forces being rotated out of theater when they should’ve been escalating pressure on the GAE’s global tentacles instead; general tenor of lackadaisicalness, arabic manana, lack of sense of urgency or purpose in keeping pressure on enemies and compounding your advantages when you have an edge.

Upravda says:

Probably partition of the country.

Assad’s regime obviously couldn’t hold, and became a burden to both Iranians and Russians. That’s the way it is with clannish divided countries where your retarded cousin must be a general because he is your cousin after all.

I guess we will have Alawites-held state on the Mediterranean coast with continued Russian presence and some Iranian support, Kurds under constant attack and/or occasional occupation by Turks, and the rest as backwater under retconed ISIL fellas recently released from GAE prison camps who already allied themselves with zionists, on CNN.

A new Somalia, but on the Mediterranean. If not new Somalia, Kurds and Alawites will all be genocided.

I feel sorry for native Christians there, they will be exiled and/or also killed.

Upravda says:

And, that retconed ISIL fellas held part will be left alone by Zionists, put under Turkish influence, as a route for a new Qatar gas pipeline. Which will obviously not be ending on the Syrian coast, but somewhere on the Aegean or Marble Sea.

The Spice must flow. – as they say.

Iranians will continue to have lever for supporting Hezbollah, just a little bit more inconvenient because no land route, just sea lanes vulnerable to Jewish subs and Sixth fleet.

On the other hand, north of Lebanon will become no-fly zone for Jewish warplanes because Russians will concentrate all those S’s in Alawite state.

Aidan says:

Turkey conquered Syria- or at least, the US allowed Turkey to conquer Syria. Removing restrictions on Turkey’s imperial ambitions is an insanely retarded policy in the long run, but these people can’t think past next week’s PowerPoint presentation. They probably thought it was a stroke of extreme genius. Russia no longer has a dog in the fight, and the stage is being set for a genocidal Turkey-Iran war of a sort which I predicted would eventually happen in the long term, but that term got a lot shorter. Iran’s opposition to Israel is an inconsequential little game compared to the coming war to rule the Dar-Al-Islam.

In the very long term, Turkey vs Iran is going to be the opening salvo of the great contest between East and West for pre-eminence over the planet, but the Turkish dog is likely to turn on its master as soon as it is able.

skippy says:

“the stage is being set for a genocidal Turkey-Iran war”

Rational if the belief is now that the US and Europe cannot be sold on doing it themselves.

However, unclear which of these dopes would be less effective in war.

The Cominator says:

Turks have a very good record as far as military history goes if they fight a bunch of other people in the middle east including the Persians they’ll likely win.

Exurban says:

Thermidor also has to contend with external forces. Russia and China have grown too strong to be dictated to while Europe is ever more fragile and dissolute. Plus, nobody outside the “West” still believes its fighting-for-freedom-and-democracy schtick.

Jim says:

The lack of democracy in the Ukraine since 2014 has been becoming more and more conspicuous.

The emergency extension of Zelenksy’s term as president and his martial law powers expired quite some time ago. Parliament could have voted themselves and Zelensky another extension, but never did, perhaps feeling that legalising what has been happening would draw attention to it.

Fidelis says:

Much of this is clearly fishing for statistical artifacts, but some of it is not.

https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=4972195

For something interesting that does not look like a result of torturing the numbers, between 1520-1720 there was a sharp rise in the usage of the words “God, Christ, Jesus” in written documents, followed by a fall. Wonder what caused this.

skippy says:

Unless it’s an artefact of the documents they look at (presumably it’s much easier to find/OCR printing press books than pre-press materials?) it looks a bit like Christianity was made up and introduced to Europe at the dawn of modernity, in the 15th century.

Fidelis says:

Beowulf fights grendel a suspected descendant of Cain, clearly Christian roots are buried quite deep in the culture. Can you please spare us the room temperature takes on this? I can find them literally everywhere else.

Starting roughly 1520, my conjecture is this is started by Henry VIII and Gutenberg. What is more interesting is the date it falls off, and dramatically so. What was happing around 1720?

skippy says:

I do not necessarily believe in or advocate this theory.

“Christianity” being made up by an academic clique at some late date however isn’t inconsistent with it being rooted in earlier ideas that were really present in the society.

In particular Christianity seems to graft some Western ideas onto a Middle Eastern root.

Any such theory indeed must contend with a huge amount of evidence for consistency, something I have not attempted. At the same time, I suspect expectation bias is responsible for at least some of the apparent consistent of any reigning chronology.

FrankNorman says:

It’s a nonsensical theory. Christianity being a major part of Western society is something we have written evidence of going right back to Roman times.

Conspiracy theories that throw out that much of written history refute themselves.

skippy says:

The problem with textual evidence for anything in the deep past is that the oldest manuscripts rarely date to before about 1500, and were often apparently completely unknown to people before that date (except, at least, in the deep past attested by the manuscript).

Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

My first thought is immune response to rot setting in followed by rot prevailing.

S says:

The graphs are deliberately bad. The graph on word density starts in 1500; you can’t make out pre 1520 trends.

The graph on scientists has the y axis inconsistent and cuts off parts of the comparison time period. The starting value is unlabeled, 70% of the y axis is to get to 2 per capita and 30% of the y axis is to get to 8 per capita.

The chart on secularization again has an inconsistent y axis. It goes (0 or 2) to 5, 5 to 10, 10 to 20, 20 to 40 and 40 to 80.

As a rule of thumb, if people do this AND don’t provide the data they used, just move on.

Jim says:

The dates do not match. Modernity, science, the scientific method, and tech startups (groups of people organised around the development and mass production of technology) started at a date we can exactly pin down. 1660 in England, a little earlier, and less precisely dateable in the Dutch Republic. Secularization trend started around 1720. So the argument that secularization caused modernity is silly.

Obviously science, technology, and all that existed long before 1660, but they were low status, furtive, and kept a low profile. Francis Bacon (1620) spent a long time in prison on suspicion of thought crimes. In 1660 the invisible college suddenly became the Royal society, and the Church of England suddenly realised that the doctrine of the Logos made science a holy profession. Science high status and productive 1660, Newton’s Principia 1687, Secularization 1720.

Widespread application of the steam engine followed secularisation, but widespread application of the steam engine was a child of tech startups, and tech startups began 1660 with science becoming high status, and the limited liability joint stock corporation becoming legal, high status, and an economic engine. The dates match for steam, but widespread application of steam was a child of the what happened in 1660, not a child of what happened in 1720, even though it arguably happened after 1720.

Christianity, a more logos centric version of Christianity due to the rehabilitation of the Greek elements of Christianity, fostered science. Science fostered technology. Technology fostered the steam engine. And the steam engine was coincident with secularisation.

To claim that secularism fostered modernity, science, and technology, you have to torture the dates. What the dates show, and the locations of centres of industrialisation and technology show, is that acceptance of Christ as the logos fostered modernity, science, and technology.

All official religions tend to be hostile to science and technology, because tech priests are competition. Hence Francis Bacon’s troubles. But Christ as the logos implies an official religion that has a place for the tech priesthood, and established Anglicanism from 1660 to 1820 exemplified this better than any other branch of Christianity, and Christianity, pretty much all of it, has been more tolerant of science and technology than any other official religion.

Fidelis says:

I agree the conclusions are moronic, and most likely an artifact of tortured data. I’m more interested in why exactly the sudden decline following the start of the 18th century.

Jim says:

> why exactly the sudden decline following the start of the 18th century.

The Enlightenment.

Our name, Dark Enlightenment, implies that the Enlightenment was false, evil, and heretical.

By attempting to derive conclusions from pure reason, without empirical input (example: “all men are created equal”) they cut themselves off from the logos, resulting in Jesus the Jewish community organiser, hence the decline in references to the Trinity, and eventually outright demon worship. This also led to rejection of the scientific method, which rejection is now manifest as peer review, where the consensus of secret clique gets to tell the experimenter what he saw.

By rejecting The Logos, they conceived man as infinitely malleable, resulting immediately in attempts to immanentize the eschaton, which continue to this day.

Our enlightenment is dark, because it accepts the Christian position that we are fallen men in a fallen world, and/or the Evolutionary Game theoretic conclusion that large scale cooperation is hard. The enlightenment was from the beginning an attempt to undo the fall in this world, a hostile reaction to the limits on reinventing the world implied by Christianity and science.

Recent examples of telling the experimenter what he saw being the Mars life experiment, Anthropogenic Global Warming Climate Change, and Gobekle Tepe.

The Mars life experiment gave compelling evidence for native martian microbial life, which was with great confidence and belligerent certainty explained away by increasingly far fetched explanations. The obvious next step would be to repeat the experiment, this time testing those explanations. But surprise, surprise, no such tests have been run.

Similarly, after unacceptable results from Gobekle Tepe were dug up, and strenuously explained away, digging up any additional areas of Gobekle Tepe was mysteriously halted. And you are no doubt familar with the story of Global Warming and “Hide the decline”. This is enlightened science. It is more important that results be “morally good”, which is to say, demonic, than that they accord with empirical reality. Facts would hurt people’s feelings, and undermine confidence in “The Science”.

FrankNorman says:

“The Mars life experiment gave compelling evidence for native martian microbial life, which was with great confidence and belligerent certainty explained away by increasingly far fetched explanations. The obvious next step would be to repeat the experiment, this time testing those explanations. But surprise, surprise, no such tests have been run.”

Jim, if they are dismissing evidence for life on Mars due to it conflicting with their ideology…. why does their ideology have a problem with the idea of life on Mars?

Jim says:

No reason is obvious to me. Possibly it is lockin of consensus. That once a consensus has been formed, undermining it would undemine “the science”:

Looks that is what is a work in Gobekle Tepe, where I see allegedly learned historians of ancient pre history denouncing the outrageous heresy that fully or predominantly agricultural societies developed by 1100BC rather than 9500BC with the scorn,passion and intemperance of people denouncing Trump and Maga. Whether civilisation is more ancient than generally believed could have a bearing on present day political disputes, but the exact ancientness of fully agricultural societies cannot possibly have a bearing.

What happened with the martian life experiments is that one of the experiments delivered the false reading that there was zero organic matter in the soil, so you had to decide whether the organic matter reading was false, or the life reading was false. And by the time it was discovered that the organic matter reading was false, it was too late to change the consensus on the life reading. That once a consensus is formed, it is apt to become a religious dogma, and attempts to falsify dogma, such as by doing another life experiment on mars, are sacrilege against “the science”.

Handi says:

Their ideology has a problem with anything that doesn’t help them knock over an existing applecart. Leftoids are very incurious and reactive organisms, and they feel individual existential dread over any open-ended novelty that doesn’t immediately fit their parasitic group evolutionary strategy.

Their reaction to possible life on Mars is the same as their reaction to any other new data: freeze it until a clique of their high priests consecrates a narrative around it that can metabolize white male energy (they know that if they don’t control perception right at the outset then they miss their chance, this is the kernel of order that allows leftism to continue existing). And no new narrative will be considered until one of the major demon cults exhausts its repertoire of current things and goes looking for a new one.

If there really is life on Mars, it will be suddenly discovered just in time to declare the whole planet a biological preserve, ban interplanetary expedition, and nationalize SpaceX to fortify the safety of exobacteria. A competing faction will attempt to preserve only one hemisphere, and use the other to set up a housing project space colony for black xenobiochemists who will be resupplied in perpetuity by OSHA-compliant Boeing rockets at 20x cost to taxpayers. A third faction will learn that asteroids ricocheting off the surface of Mars may be carrying hazardous MARVID-39 microbes into our own atmosphere, and a huge apparatus will need to be built to constantly scan the globe for alien life. Et cetera. But until then there’s no evidence to suggest any life on Mars, all reputable thinkers know it’s pseudoscience, and the only people who bring it up in public are those kooky flat earth types…

Handi says:

Fourth faction:

i says:

@Handi

Leftism seem to thrive best in resource plenty. But can stay around in dormancy like what happened with feminism with its reactivation after the world wars. But it was plenty active in the 19th century arising from literal witches as the “Secret History of Feminism” by Rachel Wilson points out.

Neurotoxin says:

If there really is life on Mars, it will be suddenly discovered just in time to declare the whole planet a biological preserve, ban interplanetary expedition, and nationalize SpaceX to fortify the safety of exobacteria.

Horribly plausible.

Adam says:

“Whether civilisation is more ancient than generally believed could have a bearing on present day political disputes, but the exact ancientness of fully agricultural societies cannot possibly have a bearing.”

Unless you believe in the Bible and that man has only been around for 4,000 years. Then it is a big deal. Which the actual DNA scientists have discovered.

Jim says:

but the debate as to when large scale agriculture got going is irrelevant to that dispute, since both sides of the agriculture debate agree that agriculture got started a lot earlier than young earth creationists would like.

Mainstream archaeology gets absurdly passionate about the “cranks” noticing evidence that some societies a faith that built megalithic temples earlier than the mainstreamers say they did, and adopted an economy based primarily on large scale agriculture slightly earlier than the the mainstreamers say they did, and does not like people finding evidence for slightly earlier agriculture.

Even if large scale agriculture got started before the Younger Dryas, which I don’t think the “cranks” are arguing that is still only a relatively small change in the date of agriculture)

The cranks are arguing that megalithic temples started before the Younger Dryas, but that large scale agriculture started after megalithic temples They argue Megalithic temples early, and that the bigger and more impressive megalithic temples were post agricultural, which only puts large scale agriculture a few thousand years earlier than the mainstreamers. It is actually a very minor disagreement, but the “mainstreamers” react to the “cranks”, the way mainstream Democrats react to RFK Junior. But with RFK Junior, real power, real money, and real lives are at stake.

Fidelis says:

Unless you believe in the Bible and that man has only been around for 4,000 years. Then it is a big deal. Which the actual DNA scientists have discovered

If you’re gonna post this at least provide arguments and evidence, not your own version of trust the experts.

Dan says:

Been going on for months, absolutely nothing has been done about it, and no facts proven…

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/watch-congressman-warns-iranian-mothership-behind-nj-drone-scare-urges-military-action

Anon says:

Jim
What happened in 1720 , how secularization started in this year?

Jim says:

The date of modernity is precisely known, at least in England. It is a bunch of public, semi public, and private institutions, and in 1660 they all got formally institutionalised in England, though the seeds of those institutions are ancient. The date of the enlightenment is extremely vague. Depends on what you call the enlightenment and what you mean by it. Like all forms of leftism, it mutated rapidly and radically over time. Began as Socinianism, dethroning Christ the eternal word who is from before the beginning, to Jesus the Jewish community organiser, and now is woke, the worship of the Demoness Ishtar.

Double entry accounting goes back a long way, and double entry accounting imagines the enterprise as a thing separate from the household of its owner, which made partnerships more feasible and common well before 1660. But in England the limited liability joint stock publicly traded corporation formally sprang into being in 1660, simultaneously with science and scientific method being given royal and religious status.

The scientific method precedes the Royal Society by a long time, but was furtive, low status, and invisible, Francis Bacon was imprisoned on suspicion of thought crime, and the Invisible College was invisible because they did not want what happened to Francis Bacon to happen to them. One day they were the Invisible College, and the next day they were the Royal Society. Modernity had suddenly arrived at a definite date. Modernity is a community practicing the scientific method,

Leftism, on the other hand, is mutable, formless, and ever changing. It always pretends to be what it is not, and what it really is not only hard to discern, but continually shits and shifts, so very hard to pin down.

cub says:

What does Ishtar have to do with modernity?

Jim says:

Trans and female promiscuity is the old cult of Ishtar, thinly warmed over.

Gilgamesh was pissed off by this cult. It is old, and it is after your children. Also keen on abortion and infanticide.

Pax Imperialis says:

They build the demon’s statue on the roof of our courthouses in open whoreship while banning any references to Christ. They participate in ‘spirit cooking’ rituals invoking the demons of baal and moloch. The Statue of Liberty itself is Istar

Rod says:

> What happened in 1720

In 2024 an Obese Muslim Negrid Cunt got busted for doing the same thing Ilhan Omar and her corrupt political tribe do everyday…
https://www.foxnews.com/us/fbi-arrests-boston-city-councilor-public-corruption-charges

https://twitter.com/battleforeurope
Syria-Turkey fully embrace JIHAD and HIJRA furthering the ongoing MUHAMMADEN reconquest and takeover of ALL EVROPA by MUSLIM’s ISLAM. Iran backs the plan with NUKES.
https://twitter.com/EuropeInvasionn

Manifesto will be CENSORED and BURIED…
https://nypost.com/2024/12/09/us-news/person-of-interest-nabbed-in-fatal-shooting-of-unitedhealthcare-ceo-brian-thompson-outside-nyc-hotel/

Daniel Penny rightly recognized as PUBLIC HERO by Whites
https://twitter.com/EricLDaugh/status/1866135530808684588
PAID Leftist AGIT COLOUR-POLS incite niggers on ragekill over NOT-GUILTY
BLM FOUNDER HAWK NEWSOME “ITS A SMALL WORLD BUDDY”
NY BLM leader calls for “black vigilante” retaliation and defense after Daniel Penny was acquitted on all charges
He seems to be implying ch*king and k*lling in return against those who they claim are “oppressing” them
Neely’s father reacts to Daniel Penny being found innocent.
“What are we gonna do, people? What’s gonna happen to us now? I had enough of this. The system is rigged. Come on, people. Let’s DO SOMETHING about this.”
Neely’s father is calling for violent protests after a jury, made up of different races, found Daniel Penny not guilty.
Instead of accepting blame for being a horrific father, he’s going to blame the system.
This deadbeat is trying cash in on his son’s drug-induced

Jake Tapper And GAE CNN Lose Major Motions In Defamation Case By Navy Veteran

‘Defund The Polic… AAAAAH HELP!’ Liberal Activist Gets Jacked In SF, Throws Fit After U-Haul Stolen
Left wing activist Darcie Bell, who spent years on social media railing to “Defund the police,” has gone viral after her U-Haul truck was stolen in San Francisco and the cops did nothing. Bell, who goes by “Jerque Costeau” on X, and whose bio reads “will respond to all bad faith arguments w/ad hominem attacks,” blasted the police hours after filing a police report for not immediately finding her stolen items.
To those accusing her of hypocrisy, she insisted she “literally never called the cops” and is reposting more calls to defund law enforcement for good measure.
After being appropriately mocked, Bell shot back: “Look at these good, Christian ‘victim advocates’ celebrating my kids losing their belongings at Christmas.”

Jim says:

This is irritatingly off topic and an attempt to swerve the thread. Putting you on moderation.

You have never taken the shill test. And reviewing your content, cannot see any thought crimes. You are always ranting about black people. Tell us how whites were driven out of Detroit. Explain why blacks and whites cannot live together under the same laws applying to both equally. Or if you think that they can, explain why the dark enlightenment view is wrong in a way that makes clear what it is.

Take the shill test. Your comments will then come through unmolested. Anyone can pass the shill test described in the moderation policy and get white listed, regardless of their political beliefs and what they want to talk about.

Rod says:

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Jim says:

This looks kind of thought crimeish, in that you are forcefully pointing at genetic differences between blacks and whites. It also looks rather shillish, in that your response does not address the need for different laws, differently enforced, for blacks and whites — does not acknowledge that you are responding to a request for a specific thought crime, nor mention what thought crime was requested. You dropped the context. Had you said that we don’t apply the same laws regarding a chimpanzee escaped from the zoo or a bear raiding garbage, had you mentioned law, would have been a response.

Nor does it mention how whites were forced out of Detroit, which was specifically requested.

Still on moderation.

Well at least you are not saying you hate niggers because niggers are magical, hate Jews because Jews are too clever, and hate women because women are so much better than men. But you are unable to engage with what we intend to do about these problems, nor are you entirely willing to state what problems our current state of affairs is causing.

skippy says:

“Secularization trend started around 1720. So the argument that secularization caused modernity is silly.”

It’s clear from the terms used that what they imply to be ‘secularization’ – atheism or irreligion – was actually the rise of deism and unitarianism. It’s not intriguing at all that this happened, as it’s well know, but it’s intriguing that this happened abruptly, which suggests it followed a change in political power and/or the emergence of a new widespread network of information disseminators.

Jim says:

Perhaps. Or you perhaps you should not put too much credence in statistics from someone grinding an axe.

If these statistics are true, then what happened was a particular state Church or major quasi state institutions of that Church came under enemy domination. I know established Anglicanism fell under enemy dominion some time before 1820. But 1720 seems far too early for England.

On the other hand, unitarianism and deism is well attested as substantially dominant in the elite during the American revolution. I don’t know the date at which Harvard went Deist, but 1720 is plausible. Certainly well before the American Revolution.

Anon says:

oh , you were taking about US , i thought in the US secularization started with the revolution.
in England in 1832 with socinian and arianism conspiracy.
and became permenant with the establishment of the civil service in 1854 through Northcote–Trevelyan report , here is an interview with dominic cumming talk about it:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5EK3diXgqbI&pp=ygUaZG9taW5pYyBjdW1taW5ncyBpbnRlcnZpZXc%3D

in one of the irony of history the Northcote-
Trevelyn system was inspired by the chinese bureaucratic system. complete with scripted cabinate meeting with final decisions already made and the meeting are kabuki theater to give the ministers the illusion of power.

Jim says:

That is what happened in England. And my wild assed guess is that if they have data showing “secularization” (meaning Socinianism and Deism) setting in 1720, they are cherry picking America, where it definitely did set in a lot earlier than in England.

I think they are pulling their data out of their asses. But if they are not pulling their data out of their asses, 1720 is kind of plausible enough for America. I doubt it, but it is not an entirely silly date.

skippy says:

What happened in England is that non-conformists continued to be “tolerated” (a legal term) even while out of power (in the firm sense, i.e. they had fewer civil and political rights). So, they had the potential to disseminate memes even while out of power, and it makes some sense that they came to power by disseminating their memes some generations before.

I know less about France, but by the time of the Revolution France seems to have already had a deist prestige culture.

T says:

And Gnon said, “Zoomers will usher in Regime Change.”

Contaminated NEET says:

Nobody’s dumping DEI. Too many people with too much power are too invested in it, materially, mentally, and spiritually. It’s like asking 16th century Spain to dump Christianity. They might dump the name, but the idea that White men are the cause of all evil in the world and that their many intersectional victims need and deserve a leg up on them is not going anywhere. As long as there is a USA, that idea will rule it.

Fidelis says:

At the very least provide some evidence that despite a seeming timid response from most of the rank and file left, with lots of meek barking and not a bit of biting, that they’re going to fight tooth and nail to keep race communism even once the lever pullers tell them to knock it off as we prepare for war.

You’ve seen all the military recruitment ads with pale faces, yeah? You’ve seen what the people working at SpaceX look like? Have you seen yet the dozens of startups spun off from that ecosystem? How many shaniquas?

The people at the top have gotten serious. Something has spooked them, and I’m not sure it was just the failed proxy war, though that definitely played a part. We have nuclear energy tech startups allowed to be built now, that’s more unusual than a sudden restraint in stomping on the faces of would be white engineers.

I think Jim is correct in his prediction all the films are being refilmed, and the game studios are going to have a sudden change in cast and content. We’ll see soon enough. I also suspect that if DoGE gets going, the HR departments are going to strangely lose influence. Perhaps not disappear, but no one will pay much attention to them anymore. I was blackpilling that they would not be capable of this before, but looking at all the steps that have already occured, we’ve already had the power transition. The hidden figures in the top ranks have decided war is near, and it’s time to prepare, and so have begun packing up all the bullshit that was rolled out since ’45.

Contaminated NEET says:

Evidence? Everywhere I look I still see DEI going strong: pronouns in email signatures of anyone I work with who wants to advance in their career; strong frizzy-haired mulatta girls kicking White male ass in all forms of media; the gleeful destruction of any man who lays a hand on a Holy Negro under any circumstances whatsoever; the enormous and elaborate legal-bureaucratic system of race-, sex-, and perversion-based preferences in all aspects of life touched by either government or big business; need I go on? Most of all, DEI is firmly lodged in the hearts and minds of the midwit functionaries who run everything as the standard and acme of all morality. TV firmly lodged it in the Boomers’ brains, and subsequent generations have only gotten worse.

The American Left is certainly feeling demoralized right now, and the Right is feeling its oats, but realistically the Left still has all the power. It’s like one of those videos where a tiny, aggressive animal is chasing a much larger animal around. The moment the big animal has had enough, it’s not a contest. “Aaah no! The croc ate my terrier!”

It’s going to take a lot more than a lost proxy war on another continent to change America’s religion. I absolutely agree that a faction among the rulers wants to role things back a bit (but just a bit) to prepare of WWIII, but there’s no way they can do it successfully. Losing WWIII would probably do it, but it’s going to take something that drastic and traumatic.

Fidelis says:

It somehow doesn’t feel like the same game anymore. Winds have changed. I think the power struggle has already occured, and we’ll see a mop up shortly. Very shortly, first 6 months of the term. Highly confident we’ll see lots of TV drama but an effective rollover of the old regime in favor of the newly installed. The culture will follow suit soon after, once the first companies learn that HR is no longer calling the shots.

There’s a very cohesive faction, that have all decided its time to prepare for war, and the extinction plan can wait until soon after. They are now installing the war party institutions, and allowing the very disunified and incompetent (by design) leftist middlemen to be rolled over. We are going to see a miraculous and radical shift in everything, very quickly.

Look at the people chosen here. RFK is going to fix the food and toxic environment (you need health for good soldiers and engineers). Elon is going to smash the regulatory overrun (Elon the world expert in practical mass scale military manufacturing). Kash is a hindu middleman, he can cut just as deep as his masters want. Hegseth wants a functional military, will clear out the gay. Gaetz probably removed as he could not be trusted to not uncover what shouldn’t be uncovered.

There’s been lots of new defense companies built out recently, and it looks to me like the trend has only just started. The focus on tarrifs as the solution to economic malaise, clearly a signal that they want war materiel built at home.

This all does not feel like some interleft struggle to me. This looks like the important people still have a collective grasp, saw they did not sit astride the world, and are now working on fixing that. I’m expecting lots of jew and hindu middlemen in praetorian positions, I’m expecting DIE and explicit feminism (not a legal rollback, but the particularly obnoxious cultural kind) to quietly disappear, and I’m expecting an economic miracle as the regulations disappear, tarrifs are raised, and mass subsidies on physical industry starts up.

Looks to me like WW3 is very soon.

ayyylmao says:

I endorse this analysis without condition or qualification.

JustAnotherGuy says:

I know I am only comparing this to a personal relationship, but I don’t think you can just be like a slut and after going through the cock carousel say “I am ready to get serious and settle down now.”

I’ll know what to look for if they are really serious. I haven’t seen something like a sudden turn backwards like in the 1930s so it’s hard for me to imagine it actually happening.

Jim says:

> I absolutely agree that a faction among the rulers wants to roll things back a bit (but just a bit) to prepare of WWIII, but there’s no way they can do it successfully.

The purge of the Covid Demon is belatedly going through with not a dog barking.

In 1933 they shut down first wave feminism and not a dog barked.

Right now the lower ranking DEI priesthood are barking pretty loudly, but I predict that when the purge gets going, they will suddenly fall silent, as the upper ranking DEI people already have.

Loudly barking DEI are getting fired. The rest will fall silent soon enough.

Jim says:

Obviously the name is about to be dumped.

But the critical problem that alarms people, is that the priesthood is destroying every business and area of technology it gets control over. The priesthood particularly dislikes technology, because supposedly stolen from the brave and stunning warrior women of Africa, so if you are in a tech business, the effect of the priesthood is particularly disastrous, even if you have, as you frequently do, an all white (but LGBTQ+++) priesthood.

Your prediction is that the name is going to be dumped, but the priesthood remain embedded in bureaucracy and management. I don’t think so. Thermidor is not worried about tech lead Shaniqua. They are worried about the people who appointed her.

The new wind is fixing America and the officially unofficial state religion for war. If you want America to be capable of fighting wars, not just the name DEI, but the entire DEI priesthood has to go.

ayyylmao says:

I don’t want USG to be capable of fighting wars. Forget “what have you done for me lately”: what have the criminals and terrorists done for me EVER?

Contaminated NEET says:

> If you want America to be capable of fighting wars, not just the name DEI, but the entire DEI priesthood has to go.

Certainly. The question is whether Thermidor has the will and the power to make this happen. I contend that they have neither. You’ve often said that Thermidor will have to borrow the will from the far Right, but even if they do (and I doubt that they can bring themselves to let Hitlerian Nazi Double Hitlers into the tent) they still won’t have the power to get it done.

Jim says:

> The question is whether Thermidor has the will and the power to make this happen.

Similar things have been done before for similar reasons. They are not officially in power yet, and have already made a good start on it.

> You’ve often said that Thermidor will have to borrow the will from the far Right

Every Thermidor borrows its will from the far right, for every Thermidor faces the same problem. Cromwell appointed Monck, the French Thermidor enabled the encroyables (but subsequently crushed them).

Pete Hegseth certainly has the will to do what is needed, at least in the military. I anticipate that Thermidor will deplore him, but strangely not actually do anything to stop him. Albeit a recess appointment or measures even more extraordinary (Trump’s 420 day power) may be necessary. And, once done in the military, the priesthood will find it difficult to resist anywhere else, because of the precedent set, and because once one has the military in one’s pocket, everyone else is disinclined to push for a confrontation.

Fidelis says:

Every Thermidor borrows its will from the far right

Who did they borrow from in 1933?

Jim says:

1933 was not Thermidor, but a swerve on the road to the left singularity, because they had a new leftism, moving towards the command economy, a new applecart to knock over.

What we have now is Thermidor, because they are snatching away the apples that DEI is going after, and not offering any substitute apples.

Jim says:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcLs7YMGYlA

Walmart announces it will not in anyway support pride events, will review all its product lines for DEI stuff, and will eliminate DEI in promotions, hiring and contracting.

And a big list of companies along with Walmart, though Walmart is the biggest.

Jehu says:

Toyota said more or less the same, saying we’re not going to do DEI, LGBT+, or electric cars anymore. Oh, and we’re bringing back the Celica.

Contaminated NEET says:

It feels different now, I agree. The little dog felt like he could take the crocodile, and the croc felt like it wasn’t worth fighting him. When the croc felt differently, though, the situation changed quickly.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdzI-Chu6Yo

ayyylmao says:

RFK Jr. says that the COVID PSYOP was run out of NSA. Your comment?

white bread says:

It’s pretty much obvious. Another fact that Kennedy hints at in his book is the obvious fact that the covaids PSYOP is the continuation of the original aids PSYOP.

Keywords here are Kary Mullis and Peter Duesberg, both high authorities in molecular biology who denounced the aids scam and were accordingly cancelled.

ayyylmao says:

I’m tempted to agree. What is Jim’s assessment?

Jim says:

Obviously Covid was run from NSA, and if RFK Junior failed to say so in his book, it was because back then too dangerous to say.

RFK Junior is now saying the obvious: That it was run from NSA and the objective was to kill or sterilise as many white people as possible.

Karl says:

Do you have any data that the virus is specifically designed to affect white people or that it primarily affects white people?

Jim says:

Not really. But it was engineered to kill people. It may or may not be engineered with certain racial groups in mind, RFK Junior argues it was engineered to harm Ashkenazi Jews less, on the basis of what evidence I do not know. But whether or not they attempted to engineer it to hit certain groups, those creating it were pissed at the civilisation whites created.

Bix Nudelmann says:

“RFK Junior argues it was engineered to harm Ashkenazi Jews less.”

Holy shit. Seriously?

Many anecdotal turbo cancers and whatnot in Korea or Japan?

/pol/watcher says:

I believe RFK is referring to the ACE receptors in lung tissues that the spike protein binds to. Apparently, these vary across ethnicities, with blacks being most affected as the Ashkenazi least. This is the kind of thing the bio labs in Ukraine and elsewhere research, looking for ways to have targeted bio weapons.

Jim says:

Ah, yes.

Covid was a common code. Among the genetically engineered modifications, was binding to the ACE receptors.

ayyylmao says:

I’m pretty sure that RFK, Jr. was saying that the Rona PSYOP was run out of NSA back when he was running for president. If it was too dangerous to say, wouldn’t it have been too dangerous to say then?

Zorost says:

I’ll take your advice and not read it 😉

The first limited hangout on covid was that all the harms were due to private corporations, that governments were just doing what the private experts were telling them. That there was no global roll-out of a coordinated plan. IIRC, even RFK’s book was of this sort.

Hesiod says:

OT: Daniel Penny found not guilty. Lots to be disgusted by with this case from start to finish in the vein of past cases of Zimmerman et al, but my favorite slice of degeneracy on display was the troon prosecutor. Dude looks like Carrot Top in a dress.

Hesiod says:

BLM alpha silverback calls for reverse vigilantism:

https://x.com/libsoftiktok/status/1866176309732495767

Isolated chimp outs across the US which the MSM will overrate in size and effect are possible in the aftermath of the verdict, but as Jim points out, there’s no longer the necessary cohesion to get another summer of St. Floyd. Images of Penny celebrating a victory drink are already making the rounds.

Dharmicreality says:

For the first time BJP has directly accused the US “deep state” of being involved in destabilising India with the help of Soros and company and their cathedral puppets in India.

https://archive.ph/n9zfN

Jim says:

The US piously says that its connections with news organisations do not influence content. Though any idiot can see that these news organisations are propaganda arms of the deep state.

Dharmicreality says:

lol

“The US government works with independent organisations on programming that supports professional development and capacity building training for journalists,”

Anon says:

Here is one of the rich guy who was left talking about the “deal”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgTeZXw-ytQ
the whole interview is very good but the interesting bit start at min 22:35
here a Transcription:

“The deal was .. someone like me can start a company a new technology … everyone will think that is great … you will make a lot of money and everybody will say that is great.. you will pay your progressive taxes and that is okay and good and at the end of your career you will be left with a giant pile of money which you donate to philanthropy .. and that washes away all of your sins … reclassify you from suspect business mogul to philanthropist … and then the press love you .. you get invited to honorary degrees from universities .. you get invited to all the great parties … davos .. aspen .. you get to set with the new york times editorial board and all of it is wonderful … and then what I experienced “they” broke the deal in every way you possible can .. everything i just said for the last decade is now held to be presumptively evil… the whole idea there is people with higher economic outcome is evil … technology is held presumptively evil … tech companies are evil … tech people are evil .. there is evil class .. everyone rich is evil … the caps for me , the thing that really shock me .. philanthropy are held to be evil … my friend mark zuckerberg and his wife did this thing because they operated according to the deal … they announced the committed there 99% of their wealth will go to philanthropic causes … they just got hammered with criticism and attacks … and the line of argument was they did this to get to not pay their tax break … the logic they should be tax up to 99% … and the government should allocate the money … which is a level of statism bordering communism… so every part of the deal no longer work .. and the entire thing have been jettison out of the airlock …

for everyone who asking what you get out from the GAE.

Rod says:

some ppl think regurgitation quotes staves off infidels, moles, rats, and disruptors.

we don’t apply the same laws regarding a chimpanzee escaped from the zoo or a bear raiding garbage

preservative non-woke law always the same since time… kill them, let nature evolve to protect itself.

Jim says:

Not a pass.

You have to say why white people fled Detroit, and you have to respond to the argument that equality before the law is impractical for substantially different races living in the same area (requiring segregation, or Jim Crow, or the millet system, or different rules for enslavement, or all of them, simultaneously or according to circumstances and history)

You are pushing the entirely true and relevant narrative that objectionable minorities need to be expelled, and white people should identify with white people. But that is not our narrative. And you are unresponsive to our narrative. You have the shill characteristic that talking to you is like talking back to the television.

Harold the Fat Jew Banker says:

> that is not our narrative

What then, Good Sers, is your narratives?

Might you, Fine Gents, have a page consolidating them for clarifying definition, and for study?

Many millions of plebs would benefit from such an excellent resource.

Jim says:

Maybe a good place to start is Throne, Altar, and Freehold.

But that only references the race problem and the women problem by implication. Presumably Rod would care mostly about pages that address the race problem directly, which is dispersed all over the place.

Perhaps my commenters could suggest other and better places.

The woman problem is addressed most directly in the tags game and marriage

Their really needs to be the race tag, though I don’t generally address the race question except in passing. There have been been several posts on the Jewish Question, notably Holocaustianity, Phariseeism, and Easter, which really need their own tag.

Pax Imperialis says:

>blacks and whites cannot live together under the same laws applying to both equally
>By attempting to derive conclusions from pure reason, without empirical input (example: “all men are created equal”) they cut themselves off from the logos

True, they cannot live together under the same laws applying to both equally, but they can certainly live separately under the same laws applying to both equally… that’s what equality before the law originally meant, and why segregation was originally understood to be perfectly constitutional from 1787 to ~1950. The legal trouble came from a secular reinterpretation of ‘all men are created equal’ which undermined the legal system among everything else with it, as ‘created equal’ was itself originally understood to be in the religious sense of being children of God rather than anything related to being materially equal or equal in character. The trouble with cutting off from the logos was adjacent to, and grew from, the linguistic drift of ‘created equal’ but not strictly due to it. Regardless, the phrase has clearly lost the correct intent and needs to retired.

Now the part that actually went off the rails was “endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights”. That is actually insane when taken to the logical conclusions and has led to no end of holiness spiraling by the left.

Jim says:

I don’t think living separately under the same laws equally works either. The special laws on powder cocaine are a workaround against equal application of the laws, a workaround rightly demanded by blacks, who were upset by the consequences for black communities of laws designed for drug use by white people. Defacto, Indian reservations and black majority areas with black cops apply and interpret the law rather differently, and everyone piously closes their eyes and pretends to not notice, and successful black states have laws far simpler, harsher, and swifter than successful white states.

Jehu says:

Yeah even fairly serious Christian groups tend to chafe bigtime under the imposition of ‘weaker brother’ rules. Subgroup A knows it can’t handle alcohol/fill in other common temptation and wants it banned overall so they don’t take a social hit from declining to participate in it. Subgroup B handles it just fine and is annoyed that they can’t do it because of the ‘weaker brothers’.

Pax Imperialis says:

This isn’t a problem of trying to enforce the same laws on different groups. People can live under the same laws equally enforced while living under different local customs and traditions. That has always been a part of Christian and Western legal practice. This is entirely a problem of no king to enforce any laws. The democracy of tyrants have enforced a right for some to rape, murder, and plunder other while harshly persecuting victims who object. This is Aztec ritualized murder.

The entire idea of equality before the law comes from the the king’s peace being equally and fairly applied to all subjects within a polity. The protection of property be it your cattle, life, wife, kids, or anything else you can reasonably lay claim to. That others are not allowed to wage unjust war against each other. This is what was always understood to be the spirit of everyone living under the “same laws” regardless of the exceptions on the local level. Exceptions historically were understood to be minor matters of local customs and traditions, and not usually the subject of the king’s law or what we see today with the massively over burden litigious legalism we have today.

Legalism infected the West fundamentally because of the destruction of patriarchy starting with the destruction of monarchy. The removal of male authority at the lowest level of society has lead to an ever growing nanny state to compensate for the power vacuum. Restore patriarchy, and I suspect you’ll find many of those special laws are no longer needed as the problem gets dealt with at the local level.

Niiiidriveevof says:

@Pax Imperialis “that has always been a part of christian and western legal practice.”
no, that is the enlightened absolutism that paid the bare minimum of lip service to traditional european governance while rapidly expanding and devouring all laws, customs, languages, cultures, and loyalties, out of greed, pride, envy, and revolutionary spirit.
“this is what was always understood to be the spirit of everyone living under the “same laws” regardless of the exceptions on the local level.”
there was no doctrine of “everyone living under the same laws” that then needed some interpretation to explain the exceptions. That view comes from much more recent and degraded philosophies of governance which want to pretend they have an older pedigree. pre-modern christian governance involved an infinitely complicated web of concentric jurisdictions and customs. the customs of every village dated back to the settlement of that village by various peoples centuries in the past, modified by its local history organically. enforcing the king’s peace in that village means upholding the law or custom that village already has, which may be unwritten, which may not be changed by the king arbitrarily, and which may have nothing to do with the laws in other parts of the realm.
in other words, this practice where the “problem gets dealt with at the local level” used to be honored by the king as subordinate but akin to the laws that come from his court, not treated as a curious exception to the normal activity of society, destined to be attacked as soon as some bureaucracy decrees it’s not rational and progressive enough.
the principle that the king respects a man’s authority over his own household, which jim calls freehold, is not sufficient to answer these questions in the long term. good governance also requires what the spanish call fueros, which means, that the king respects the stable, established traditions of each people and town, which are not to be rationalized and standardized.
in an industrial society, there are also industrial interests with an incentive to eliminate and standardize all things. in this case the king intervenes to prevent or limit this according to the common good.

The Cominator says:

Re the middle ages and “the same laws”.

It was more as you said a kind of radical localism by modern standards. You might have something resembling the same laws if you lived in the same city or village, but perhaps very different laws if you were in a village 20 miles down the road, although robbing and killing on the kings highway was almost universally a death penalty thing and that was something akin to modern federal law. Absolutism outside of Russia and Prussia was mostly a myth. Louis XIV really tried to be one but France was not actually an absolute monarchy and his assertion that he could have laws proclaimed and to have them take effect without approval of the local “parlements” (or academically the estates general) was ignored during his life and declared illegal immediately after his death.

Pax Imperialis says:

>there was no doctrine of “everyone living under the same laws”

Everyone lived under the King and his law, else they were outlaws. Likewise all Christians lived under God’s law and that law did not differ from one to another (in 99.999% of cases). Both recognized there is a great deal of differences between peoples, disputes that arose from them, and the need to arbitrate them, but most of which was far beneath the level of importance or even of standing to be recognized as a matter of law whether that be the King’s law or God’s law. Law was a high level function of governance, and not a question of local customs or traditions.

>pre-modern christian governance involved an infinitely complicated web of concentric jurisdictions and customs.

Yes, exactly, but those jurisdictions did not practice law. There were no legal argumentation or lawyers at that level of governance, nor were there juries, nor were there courts. Law was literally an outcome of the royal court, and there are many historical and Biblical examples of that. The entire mechanism of customs and traditions is to facilitate social cohesion, prevent disputes, and if needed settle them extralegally all without deliberating endlessly over giant tomes of legal precedent and theory more so than they do over the facts or what was best for the community.

The false modern idea of law originates from Enlightenment absolutism expanding the court system to the local level which ended up claiming local customs and traditions as and under the purview of law. This is why the legal system expanded so massively and rapidly, continues to do so, and has thus become completely unwieldy. It is trying to account for every single possible nuance and somehow coherently standardize it into one consistent legal doctrine. This is impossible, and as many have pointed out, different people behave and think different.

Varna says:

In EE, the whole chunk that used to belong to the house of Osman, and two thirds of the chunk that used to belong to the house of Hapsburg, and bits of the former Romanov territories, have had for centuries the “local niggers”, that lost nomadic tribe of dalit conjurers, clairvoyants, pickpockets, musicians for hire, sex traffickers and odd-job handymen – the romani gypsies.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Romani_population_average_estimate.png

Officially every country treats them as equal citizens, unofficially there is serious segregation, to the point that in smaller towns whites and darkies don’t look each other in the eyes when passing on the street, and policing is of course different. As is teacher attitude, shop keeper attitude, bureaucrat attitude and so on.

They do, however, constantly generate a subtle outflow, in the sense of each generation produces groups that become blue collar workers working for local municipalities, then their kids start graduating school, and their grandkids, get into higher education or some qualification program and look and dress and behave like “proper Hungarians/Romanians/Macedonians” etc., just a bit swarthier, but outbreeding fixes that fast.

The first/second generation assimilated darkie also tends to become turbo-patriotic with a passion, not unlike certain Russian jews such as Zhirinovsky and Solovyov. Or the rabid pro-US latinos and hindus I’m told about. Everyone kind of goes along with that in a don’t ask don’t tell manner in a way. “Sure, sure, real honest montenegrins, always have been.”

The core roma population keeps to its ways of thieving, scamming, and child-briding, but the outer fringes quietly enter the host population and merging with the landscape.

Hence a variation of some “early life” research can be sometimes needed. A gorgeous EE brunette catches your attention? Maybe a bit of spicy Uygur or Kasparian blood that just makes her yummier in your imagination? Check the social media. Everything looks normal? Just a conspicuous lack of older relatives? Good, good, find the one pic from childhood mixed in with the rest. If one or both parents or grandparents look suspiciously dark, scruffy, and simian, then know what you’re getting into.

Best case you’ll be the decisive gene/social capital provider to make the next generation huwhite for real.

Varna says:

I’m fairly convinced that in some regions and counties of EE this “slow internal migration” from the jack-rabbit breeding romani core into the host society is what keeps the official fertility rates above East Asian levels.

i says:

The thieving and scamming from the Roma population definitely is what crosses over to the rest of society making them less tolerable. What is the most suitable way to penalize such behaviors from them?

It would be desirous to root that out from them.

Your Uncle Bob says:

Interesting parallel to the Amish, who appear to be self-selecting for what they call plainness through a process of boiling off the un-plain.

Which raises the disturbing possibility Roma are still getting more Roma-ish not less. Unless, having been around longer than the Amish, they’re already closer to their stable equilibrium of optimal Roma-ness and have less room to grow.

In either event, bad news for trying to “fix” them. Any eugenic solution would be exceedingly harsh.

Pax Imperialis says:

A good start to rooting out undesirable behaviors is to actually penalizing them instead of turning a blind eye to it. Stop rewarding them with welfare which has reinforced their bad behavior and allowed them to reproduce it. Force them to settle down if they want to benefit from the king’s peace, otherwise they will be deemed outlaws and offenses committed against them are not punishable.

It may be that they are unemployable in today’s economy. It may be that no one wishes they be settled down as neighbors. No problem, we have some very big case studies on how to deal with and reform nomadic savages far worse. Reservations with carved out regional monopolies on hunting, gambling, and tobacco. It breeds out the savage and replaces it with something approaching a good host. Varna observes some of them mysteriously becoming “real honest montenegrins” or something like that under the current system of pretending they don’t exist. This process is currently limited to those who “boil off”, but a quick look at the reservation system proves the direction of gene flow can be reversed.

Many of the Indian reservations these days look rather white, and they are having to change their bylaws on blood because it’s getting to the point where none of them have enough native ancestry to qualify for tribal status. This is happening even in reservations as isolated and remote as Alaska. Blood quantum requirements are being removed because it has gotten to the point where they are having trouble finding enough people with more than 50% 25% 12.5% native blood to keep the tribe alive. Take a look at this interview with a chairwoman of the Chippewa tribe. That’s a very fair skinned blond Native.

https://youtu.be/-VzhSXyXVss?t=533

The problem of Roma criminality is the problem of democracy. No one wants to keep them in line for fear of being seen as bad under democratic norms. That mindset started with racial minorities, but has spread to vagrants, criminals, women, and society at large. It’s at the point where if law is enforced, it’s sporadically done so at best, and no one is properly kept in line.

c4ssidy says:

Trying to build systems to get the next generation using hashes for content and user IDs, with the intermediate steps being to leech off existing pipelines, using them to share fun content as hashes, easing people into the transition. Base 64 hash at 43 characters is ok but not ideal. Base 256 gets to 32 char (⊄⋗∱⊇≄∳⋒∉≣≟⋉≞∶∹≉⊭⊜≫≔∊∖⋔≈≕∂≔∍⊤⊰∙⊀∌), base ~65k goes to 16 char (𧘇𦞛誃𧮈𪏡赽𤺺𣌈巟𦍡𢡛𤖕𣽠𣞖敆𢕫) both with the problem that the characters are too wide, too messy. The best option is to use one of the unicode planes which have a blank ~65k reserved for private use, aka 󼶗󲸬󳋭󰏙󵬜󱂋󿂏󴄥󲽮󺿩󺧢󶥯󺧹󹷬󿨪󵊏. So I will focus on classic base 64 and base ~65k. When I, or anyone, gets around to making a font, to avoid the broken appearance of squares, they could be geometric shapes, needing only 2^16 variations, such as 16 small features with 2 varieties each, simplest example might be a bitmap with two columns of 8 pixels, each one on or off. This would also make the hash look much thinner than fallback squares, so a hash can encompass something as short as ‘www.google.com’ or even short as the word ‘google’. Next, as mentioned in past comments, just need a version of ipfs that uses plain hashes instead of filling up its cid design with garbage, along with software to make ‘pinning’ and filling up data collections (organizing big lists of hashes and hashes of hashes and building the matching data collections to greentick them) actually fun to do. The final part comes at the client/browser/OS level, where a unicode hash is intercepted, read, interpreted in real time. An image hash for example gets inlined or previewed. A public key brings up the zooko name type actions, compares it against one’s address book, adds a green or orange tick, stuff like that, but in addition, since the future of the internet is decentralised data hoarding, billions of text and other files stored locally, everything available somewhere to the extent someone considers a tibit of content to be worth keeping, it can easily search the hoard for past stuff already signed by that public key or mentioning the public key, starting in the local hoard and then pinging other nodes, so even hovering over the ID-hash would pull up some kind of twitter-like feed. The system could even be used indirectly to create a public message: write a paragraph referencing the key that is mildly interesting or funny enough that at least one person is going to pin it to their node/collection, so it would eventually show up in casual searches for the ID

Jim says:

I don’t want normies to ever see the hash. They should be able to access it, copy it and paste it for special and exceptional cases, but should never need to so in normal use.

You will probably need it for command line activities, but normies should never need to go to the command line.

[*deleted*] This satisfies most pedantic tyrants (incl govt) “need” for “Real ID”, but breaks “ID” based datasharing, thus preserving your privacy.[*deleted*]

Jim says:

Zeroknowledge.fm has Harvard connections. Harvard does not like this blog, nor the objectives discussed in Social networking.

Take the shill test. Your comments will then come through unmolested. Anyone can pass the shill test described in the moderation policy and get white listed, regardless of their political beliefs and what they want to talk about.

We hear far too much about Harvard approved cryptographic initiatives that are supposedly aimed at promoting privacy. They will not promote privacy. They will extend state power in an allegedly less obnoxious form. I think that none of these initiatives are likely to be less obnoxious.

If you want to argue that they will foster privacy and freedom, I welcome the debate. But it is impossible to hold such a debate with someone who is not allowed to acknowledge the existence of non Harvard cryptographic initiatives.

Harvard proposed applications of Zero Knowledge are knackered. Zero Knowledge is an inherently freedom promoting technology, and what Harvard is primarily interested in is finding ways to apply it that take the freedom out of it.

Cloudswrest says:

Off topic, but related to AI. This train of thought just occurred to me.

We all know that “surface” (i.e. top article) Wikipedia is heavily censored and extremely Left oriented, and is not a reliable source for anything controversial. But subsurface Wikipedia (all the collective edits) is a potentially immense resource, if properly curated. This would be an Augean Stables tasks for mere humans, but an AI, properly trained, could probably scrape all of Wikipedia, analyze the biases of every editor, and rewrite every article based on every one of it’s passed edits, weighing the editors biases for reliability. E.g., reversion by a flaming Lefty would indicate a high probability the reverted material was good.

This idea occurred to me when, just for jollies, I decided to see what what Wikipedia had to say about JF Gariepy. Starts off in first sentence with, “Canadian white supremacist”. LOL. He’s written a rather interesting book titled, “The Revolutionary Phenotype”. Which is both a fairly interesting idea and an interesting read. Of course this book is not listed in the surface article, but it is listed in the edits, and reverted away in the subsequent edit. BUT IT IS IN THE EDITS! So if an AI could properly curate deep Wikipedia we would have an immense resource of collective wisdom. Perhaps various spook agencies already have this?

Of course, if this endeavor was successful I could see Wikipedia immediately eliminating the past edit archive to the general public.

alf says:

Any future priesthood worth its salt needs its own social media and its own ai. The question is whether it needs wikipedia. Is AI not taking that over that role?

Jim says:

An AI, to be useful, needs to be trained on curated data or ranked data — Wickedpedia is a pile of curated data — curated by leftists,

Training our own ai is going to be a little bit like writing our own Wikipedia.

These days, AIs are migrating towards their actually useful function: Finding relevant links, and paraphrasing and summarising those links.

Obviously the state religion needs to restrain itself from meddling every area of thought and reason. The trouble with Wikepedia is that absolutely everything as become political, because we have a state religion based on points of faith that are empirically falsifiable, and empirically false, so each lie requires a multitude of other lies. On empirical matters, the state religion has to allow the logos to speak for itself. So curation or ranking means higher rank for first hand knowledge, and people that there is reason to believe are likely to speak the truth.

Varna says:

Asked AI how many slavs there are in the world and where they live. Chat described the east, west, and southern slavs. Says 143 million slavs in Russia, also equates country population number with number of slavs on the Balkans etc.. I go “Chat, be serious. Russia is not 100% slavic, neither are the Balkan countries”. Sure, says Chat, and revises downward to the real average of 70% for the relevant places. Then I notice the Ukraine is 40 million, with a diaspora in Canada. Again I go “Chat, give post-war figures, eh?” The Ukraine abruptly becomes 29 million, and the diaspora is suddenly spread all across Europe now.

Like a lazy student trying to do the basic minimum, for now at least. You have to already know the basic framework and figures and keep prodding the conversation toward reality.

Admirably fast reactions, and a real capacity to adapting to your own mental algorithm over the course of an hour or two, but without your mentoring, the starting position is just provide the most surface generic crap and leave it at that.

Fidelis says:

I suspect it will remain this way for a long time to come, longer than is generally expected even from the more pessimistic materialists (of course excluding those who believe humans have magic in them they cannot grant the machine, who will simply say ‘never’).

With just about every task with sufficient degrees of freedom, the bot flails. Even with more simulated experience than a human could gain in 100 lifetimes, they cannot quite master poker. But in any narrowly defined task, superhuman. No one can beat the bot at chess, similar to how no one can outlift a forklift. They’ve been trying to fully automate factories with robots and RL for quite a while, and everyone concludes it’s a fools errand, and that’s just a factory. With defined inputs and outputs.

Drones can’t exactly navigate themselves by looking around. Computer vision is easily tricked, to the point adversarial research has died down in volume because no one has bothered trying to fix it.

These systems work incredibly with a human in the loop, and fail catastrophically without one. On all tasks in the real world. It’s really quite something.

Dan says:

Scraped wikipedia edits for urls once, it was very fruitful.

Eventually there will just be uncensorable distributed deduplicated P2P global storage… you plug your storage drives into it, share all that and the same amount of free space, get the same amount of access to whatever your personal filter bot delivers to your feed, pay a little offset fee if you consume more than you supply.

c4ssidy says:

Pretty sure that, like a digital equivalent of Elon’s rockets, it is going to take a strained effort of the select few, else everything falls off the cliff into the abyss. The digital world in the dark age being these huge codebases staffed by indians which are constantly online and updating, immanentize the eschaton through obfuscation and bloat and backdoors in everything, actual functionality (measured by responsiveness and ability to perform simple tasks like writing a letter etc) declining in jumps every couple of years. Normies are starting to notice that Windows is slower and less useful than it was two decades ago, and are starting to dread every update

Jim says:

Linux has fallen. I expect it to be superseded by a Russian fork in a few years.

BoNix says:

Linux never “fell”, because it was always Gay, [*deleted*]

Jim says:

Linux was not gay until it surrendered to a code of conduct written by the Lavender mafia.

If you want to argue this, take the shill test.

Your comments will then come through unmolested. Anyone can pass the shill test described in the moderation policy and get white listed, regardless of their political beliefs and what they want to talk about.

I silently delete a huge number of comments, because they look shillish. If you don’t take the shill test, your comment will very likely not appear at all

BoNix says:

First principles…
If Linux was not gay, Linux would not have surrendered.
Linux surrendered, therefore Linux was gay.

Some BSD’s did cuck themselves onto Lavender tits
too, but most held out longer than GNU/Linux, or just
ignored the mob. None of the BSD’s have spammed their
website with a COC except FreeBSD.

Which of the huge Leftist activists at the top
of the GNU/Linux project do you admire, and why?

Jim says:

You are still on moderation, but it is a relevant reply so allowing it through. If you do not take the shill test, probably going to silently delete your next comment regardless of relevance.

A code of conduct is sold as not actually going to affect anything, because no one on the mailing list normally talks about race sex, sexuality, or nationality, let alone identifies their race, sex, sexuality, or nationality. On the internet nobody knows you are a dog. So it seems completely harmless. Why should anyone object unless he hates blacks, Jews, women and gays? Why should anyone care about this code of conduct?

And as soon as the code of conduct is in place, the woke start identifying their race, sex, and sexual preference, and suddenly the mailing list is full of gay sex, sexual promiscuity, and racial hatred against whites. Which gives them no end of microaggressions to complain about because some people decline to talk about these topics in the appropriately supportive and enthusiastic way. And the microaggressions are then applied to terrorise anyone who gets in the way of the woke priesthood exercising total power, and it is impossible to object to or resist this process without committing macro aggressions. You have to call people who bring up sex on the mailing list disgusting perverts who are dangerous to children, you have to call people who bring up race dumb niggers who are playing the race card to get fake stuff on the resume, and get their race credit for doing stuff, when in fact they lived in mud huts till white conquerors uplifted them, and so on and so forth. And if you fail to do this, pretty soon they are in power, and you are terrorised or kicked off the project.

You have to engage in these macro aggressions because they set up these conflicts so that you cannot push back except by macro aggressions.

For example, all science and technology was stolen from the brave and stunning warrior women of subsaharan Africa by white male slave stealing rapists, and therefore the project must do X, where X is something objectionable and stupid. And you cannot say why X is objectionable and stupid without saying, or at least implying, that black people are incapable of tech, and lived in mud huts before white people uplifted them, and black people generally need a slave driver standing over them with a whip if they are to pay for their own keep, rather hunting other people’s cattle and gathering from other people’s gardens.

Once you have one woke priest doing woke priesting in your organisation, once the camel’s nose is under the tent flap, you cannot stop a total takeover by any means short of launching a full on explicitly reactionary holy war against woke. Because they are going to launch a full on Woke holy war against you. You want to use an extra level of pointer indirection? Suddenly you find you are oppressing women and blacks and your pointers are engaged in white colonialism against the bodies of black gay women.

Which the Trump cabinet is about to discover. Still predicting civil war II or something equally terrible around 2026 or so. If things go as smoothly as the Trump team expects, I will be pleasantly surprised. Alternatively they capitulate, and probably get killed when the Woke are back in power, or they empower some full on reactionaries to do what it takes, while politely saying that they deplore this extremism, the extremism that they found it necessary to empower. This is the way Thermidor usually goes.

Pete Hegseth, Trump’s secretary of defense, has piously said that he is fine with women in combat provided they meet the same physical standards as men in combat. Of course he knows perfectly well that none of them will meet those standards, and by and by, the Woke priesthood is going force him into a corner where he actually has to say so.

They are going to say that women are prevented from meeting those standards by insufficiently woke officers, and therefore we have to make sure that only members of the woke priesthood get to be officers and only members of the woke priesthood get promotions. And he is going to have to say that the reason no women are meeting those standards is because women are the weaker sex, and therefore have no role in combat, and the gentle sex, and therefore have no role in combat. (Or perhaps hire a full on reactionary to say that for him.) See how it works?

A2 says:

Uuurgh, this gives me PTSD. Creepy sickos taking over open source projects and emptying the tiller. Donations to maintain the project are quickly converted into grants for strong independent women.

Debian has taken it to the next level with occasional human sacrifices (suicides) of those unimportant coders. Who all seem to be shitlibs, but still.

alf says:

Immense shame. An early sign of trouble was Linus Torvalds shilling the covid shot. He does not seem like a leftist type though. Just not anti-woke enough. Probably just one of those cases where when you don’t actively defend against shills, they eventually overrun you.

someDude says:

You got me there, mate. I would call this windows-update-phobia except that phobias are irrational fears. This one is very rational

K1 says:

Jesus Christ is Saviour.

Pax Imperialis says:

What about Christ being your Lord as well?

Pax Imperialis says:

An interesting legal theory (which is correct) that is being advanced in South Korea in order to defend President Yoon from legal prosecution is that martial law was an “act of governance” and thus is not subject to prosecution. For example, the legislative can pass laws that are found to be unconstitutional and thus illegal, but the legislators themselves are and always have been legally immune from being punished for their legislative conduct because it was “an act of governance” even if found to be unlawful. Thus, even if aspects of the implementation of martial law were unlawful, not an impeachable or prosecutable offense on the basis of legality.

This is relevant to the American system (and Nrx) because it exposes a double standard. President Trump faced numerous impeachment votes for acts of governance that were accused of being illegal despite having presidential immunity, yet congress itself has never been held legally accountable for the numerous illegal acts both of governance and or of personal behavior. It proves that democratic systems are incapable of maintaining virtuous behavior of their legislative body, and that they are prone to making presidents legally subservient. This is how constitutional Monarchies decay into virtuous Republics decay into degenerate Democracies. Accountability can only come from the top down, and legislative bodies often attempt to reverse the direction of accountability and in the process lose any ability to maintain virtue.

If a Republic cannot strictly maintain presidential immunity for acts of governance, then it cannot maintain the Republic. Such a standard is often impossible to sustain because Republics are created by the repudiation of Monarchical immunity, and thus foundational precedence for legislative anarchy is intrinsically baked into Republics. Benjamin Franklin has be theoretically and practically proven wrong. A Republic, you cannot keep.

Dharmicreality says:

It always boils down to the basic conflict between rule by priests vs rule by warriors.

Priests who want consensus always subvert warrior rule which is command based and hierarchical. That is why monarchy works by warrior rule explicitly suppressing priestly power and democracy is priestly rule clearly keeping the warriors subordinated, while a republic is an uneasy compromise between priests and warriors and breaks down the moment priests subvert warriors as is their nature. Unless a warrior just takes charge and throws the priests out of power first.

Jim says:

Yes, first crusade ran into trouble with the Pope trying to convert Jerusalem into a Papal Kingdom, coveting what was Caesar’s. This resulted in crusaders killing crusaders, and GGodfrey of Bouillon giving himself the deliberately unclear ambiguous title “Advocate of the Holy Sepulchre”

Kline says:

[*deleted because posted from the frame that commenter is a Christian]

Jim says:

I don’t think you are a Christian. I suspect you are a demon worshipper.

And I don’t allow any Christian theology that I do not like through unless the commenter affirms that Christ is King, born in Bethlehem, died at Jerusalem, and is, is from before the beginning of the world. Through him all things were created. Fully God and fully man. God is three and God is one.

Kline says:

[*deleted because posted from the frame that commenter is a Christian]

Kline says:

I never said I was Christian, nor do I recall implying it, nor would either be my intent…

Jim says:

You were telling us that God said this and that. OK. Which God?

Jews can speak freely here, and Hindus can speak freely here, and Mohammedans can speak freely here, but when someone speaks of God we need to know where he are coming from, because there are a whole lot of hostile enemy entryists lecturing Christians what Christianity is.

A theological debate is likely to ensue about the nature of God, in which you will hear the Christian position, and we need to know the belief system of the party we are addressing.

Socinians, Gnostics, and suchlike would also be welcome here except that none of them are ever going to admit to being a Socinian or a Gnostic.

Pax Imperialis says:

It always boils down to the basic conflict between rule by priests vs rule by warriors.

Jim, what we call “law” today is an anticoncept linking consensus priesting to governing and warrior king rule.

It’s clear there is a basic conflict between “law” by priests vs law by warriors. The Bible is clear that the King’s word is law, and Church (Cathedral) involvement in law is another example of coveting what was Caesar’s to disastrous effect. I contend that law by priests is in fact not law, and that we know this on an instinctual level due to the perpetual popularity of movies like Dirty Harry. If law by priests, then of course equal (in spirit) laws will never be consistently enforced because priests are concerned with consensus, and consensus must always expand. If law by warriors, then equal laws consistently enforced on different groups becomes possible and righteous. Kings naturally have no interest in overextending authority which keeps the purview of law down to the core necessities while leaving much to local patriarchs to deal with extralegally.

Prior to the Norman invasion of England, law was command based and hierarchical. A group of 10 families were organized into tithings with a tithingman in charge. They were subject to the hundredman who governed 100 families. They were subject to the king’s sheriff. There were no juries in the modern sense. Individuals who personally knew the accused and accuser used their personal knowledge about the character of both and were actively involved in figuring out the facts. They would help determine guilt. Strict accountability from the top down created both enough leeway at the bottom for local customs and traditions to take care of minor issues, while maintaining a hard line against serious crimes such as theft, murder, heresy, sodomy, etc. This is remarkably similar to military justice (before priestly bureaucracy sticks its fingers into the process) which often manages to enforce orders and standards equally between different groups (again, before priests get involved). The laws were more or less equal for various groups and fairly consistent in enforcement while specific practices of governance was not.

The whole notion of law we have today is based on consensus and legal argumentation devoid of personal knowledge of character. This originated from the Norman introduction of Church authority into law as a parallel system of governance. The chain of accountability was non-existant, and accused would claim membership in the clergy going as far as shaving their heads and pretending to be monks. There was no way of “proving” membership or not (I suspect the Church had no interest in determining validity), and more often than not they would grant shelter and right to trial in the ecclesiastical court. Notably this automatically took away the possibility of death. The jury of priests did not personally know anything about the accused or accuser, and based their verdicts purely on argument. This is where the modern structure of juries and lawyering was introduced into the English legals system. Likewise to modern courts, this system was notorious for being inconsistent and lenient.

K1 says:

“Then He said to them, “Then pay to Caesar the things that are Caesar’s; and to God the things that are God’s.” — Matthew 22:21”

Some have suggested this is a clever swipe at Caesar, actually calling for the end of such entities and powers.

S says:

How? Jesus is pointing to a Roman coin (which has the face of Caesar on it) when he says the phrase- it is clearly ‘pay your taxes’.

Pax Imperialis says:

*Some* have suggested that God is not really God and is in fact the demiurge.

Jim says:

Because some priests covet what is Caesar’s

The horrifying history of the Roman Catholic Church tells us it means what it says, for by their fruits you will know them.

As a government, they have been quite good internally, but in war and international politics, absolutely villainous.

/pol/watcher says:

The render unto Ceasar dialogue is [*deleted*]. Assuming it takes place in the temple, it shows the allegiance of the questioner by bringing currency marked with a pagan god there. The Pharisees were backed by the Roman state, hence their argument for Jesus’ crucifixion. The Sadducees were fully hellenized and borderline atheists, thus God doesn’t enter the equation at all. The Essenes would not want anything to do with Caesar, while the Zealots wanted to overthrow him. Thus every faction brings a pre-supposition prior to questioning the Lord, and intend it as a trap in the “When did you stop beating your wife?” vein.

[*deleted because I don’t allow theological debate unless the proponent identifies what religion he adheres to*]

Jim says:

Take the shill test. Your comments will then come through unmolested. Anyone can pass the shill test described in the moderation policy and get white listed, regardless of their political beliefs and what they want to talk about.

I silently delete a huge number of comments, because they look shillish. If you don’t take the shill test, your comment will very likely not appear at all.

The plain meaning of “render unto Caesar” is confirmed by numerous other sections of the Bible addressing the problem of Church and state. Obedience to legitimate earthly authority is commanded, but resistance to wicked earthly authority performing wicked acts is commanded, and actual overthrow of wicked earthly authority is commended.

And if your response claims to be from the Christian frame, give us the affirmation.

/pol/watcher says:

Apologies, I think I entered the wrong email on my comment above.

I am currently a catechumen in an Eastern Orthodox church, so I hold to the Nicene Creed.

I believe in One God, God the Father Almighty, maker of heaven and earth, and all things visible and invisible. and In one Lord, Jesus Christ, the son of God, the only begotten, begotten of the Father before all worlds and through whom all things were made,
very God of very God, light or light, begotten and not made, of one essence with the Father.
Who for us sinners and our salvation came down from heaven and was Incarnate of the Holy Spirit (God the Holy Spirit) and the Virgin Mary and made man, and was crucified also for us under Pontius Pilate and suffered and was buried and the third day rose again, ascended into heaven and sitteth at the right hand of the Father. And He shall come again in power and in glory to judge the living and the dead, whose kingdom shall have no end.
And I believe in the Holy Spirit the giver of Life, who proceedeth from the Father and together with the Father and the Son is worshiped and glorified. The Holy Trinity, three persons, one in essence, and undivided.
I believe in One, Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic church.
And I acknowledge one baptism for the remission of sin.
I look to the resurrection of the dead, and of the world to come.
Amen.

Definitely not a perfect rendition from memory.

As for thought crimes, let’s see. I think women are the weaker vessel and first deceived by Satan, that’s why being ruled by them is a judgment from God. I believe in genetics, and thus equality is a lie, and a horrible goal anyways (Arete/Virtu are far better). To be honest, I think the civilized races came about because of strict patriarchy plus harsh penal codes over the course of centuries that rooted out certain alleles. Also, Christianity helped, of course, for a variety of supernatural and natural reasons.

Still have hoppean/AnCap leanings, so I apologize for overly anti government at times. All authority comes from above, but even so we were given rational souls in order to make judgments on matters of justice. All just orders and laws are binding on Christians, and given the fallen state of man, excess should be expected, so some deference should be given to the one who holds the sword and renders judgment.

Jim says:

Pass, but I believe this email address was already whitelisted since 2024/January/12

skippy says:

I think it does make sense for law to be consistent and predictable. This is not purely priestly power-grabbing.

English Common Law around the early modern period probably reached the peak of legal theoretical sophistication while retaining the sovereign authority of the king as its foundation.

America by the way does not have English Common Law even though it claims to do so.

Dharmicreality says:

Laws created by priestly systems including democracies tend to be vague and ambiguous giving rise to creative and frequently inconsistent interpretations by lawyers and judges often bypassing the “spirit” and intent of the lawmakers. Even Judicial precedents are often ignored by twisting the facts to fit the creative interpretation.

Jim says:

> I think it does make sense for law to be consistent and predictable. This is not purely priestly power-grabbing.

Who whom?

The King cannot judge every case. Consistent and predictable law limits the powers of those who do judge. Who are normally of the priestly class.

Thus it is in the interests of the King that law be consistent and predictable, lest all that power slip through his fingers to the judges, while in the interests of the Priests that law be incomprehensible and unpredictable.

skippy says:

It is also in the practical interest of, for example, commerce.

The King is more likely to say, “create for me laws that make commerce flourish in my realm”, than to say, “I wish to decide the winner in each commercial case”.

And even in England, even the United States, and even more so in tax havens like Cayman, the commercial law remains less corrupt than the law for individual persons.

Pax Imperialis says:

In pre-Norman English law, the King’s men, sheriffs, would run around judging and enforcing where the King could not judge. They had the authority to raise a small army, a posse, to chase after criminals. Sheriffs are of the warrior class. This was the historical norm. There is nothing normal about priestly involvement in law, and it’s one of Christ’s top condemnations of the Pharisees.

There is remarkable consistency among the American officer corp on toeing the party line. Military structures have a way of creating coherence. Should the legal system be structured like the military, like most historical systems of law, there would likewise be similar consistency. There is no reason a king would have to personally oversee every judgement. The king heads a top down hierarchy and he’s the determining factor on the character of the hierarchy all the way down to the bottom.

Napoleon says:

Skippy: “I think it does make sense for law to be consistent.” Jim: “It is in the interests of the King that law be consistent and predictable, lest all that power slip through his fingers to the judges.”

This is exactly the way God set up the govt of the ancient nation of Israel. God had an opportunity to set up an earthly govt (the govt of ancient Israel) from scratch, however He wanted. The design He gave them is the optimal design, and it matches up perfectly with what Jim teaches. In short, it is Throne and Altar plus a code of Law written in stone.

God actually started with law. Through Moses He gave them a lengthy code of criminal law that outlaws every major form of evil that can cause national/civilizational decline. (This was in addition to a separate aspect of “the law” that had to do with how they were to relate to God at that time – animal sacrifices etc.) God started with the law to get everyone on the same page regarding what evil is. As long as that code of law is enforced, purity spiraling, leftism, etc is impossible.

Then God gave Israel a king, and gave him the ultimate responsibility of enforcing that law. “David administered justice and righteousness for all his people.” (2 Sam. 8:15) God instructed the king to keep a copy of the law with him at all times and read it every day (Deut. 17:19, also Joshua 1:8).

God also gave them a judiciary system that was to enforce this code of law locally (Deut. 16:18-20). Any person could bring any violation of the code of law to the local judicial system. Two things kept judges from going off the reservation: the strict, unchangeable code of law, and the king. The consistent law code stops undermining of law via “precedent” (how Western common law got undermined). And of course, God knows and reality dictates that the ultimate enforcer of the law must be the king. The king can do it because he has the military at his disposal. Which is why God said what He said in verses like 2 Samuel 8:15, and Deut. 17:19.

We also see that God gave Israel a state religion. The long, thorough criminal law portion of the code of law had the backing of the state religion and “God says.” But the priesthood could not change the law. And the priesthood did not have the military or any armed forces at their disposal – only the king did.

So basically you have Throne and Altar and a Code of Law written in stone. God then told Israel that if they ran this setup exactly as prescribed, without deviation, that they would outcompete other nations, financially and in every other way (Deut. 4:5-9). When Israel did it, they succeeded and outcompeted, when they deviated they failed and were conquered. Eventually they kept failing and were conquered and scattered.

The Gasman says:

I give it two years before everyone figures out that blompf is a fake; he has no intention of deporting anybody; and he’s going to plunge us headlong into war with Iran especially now that Syria is out of the way. He was already president once before but the usual suspects are tripping over one another to be first to earn the “fell for it again award.” Just like his first presidency it’s going to be all muh optics this and muh hamstrung by the courts that. Maybe there can be a real revolutionary front once all the boomers are either dead or fully demoralized.

Pete says:

I’ll give Trump enough credit to believe he actually does WANT to deport spics. He won’t be allowed to do so. The active military will tell him to fuck off, the National Guard of each state will be told by the governors not to cooperate, judges will issue various rulings to muddy the waters. Each and every illegal picked up will mysteriously have a team of white-shoe jewish lawyers that comes out of the woodwork with shadowy funding sources. Legal citizen spics will put themselves in a position to be arrested along with the migrants, so the media can run sob stories that Trump’s team is “just grabbing anyone who looks brown!” The Democrats will make it clear that once they return to power with a Leftist DOJ in 2029, anyone who helped Trump arrest one single migrant is going to prison for life. Due to this, the Border Patrol, ICE, ATF, DHS and the rest will quietly call in sick whenever asked to help with the effort.

After all of this, Trump will have no choice but to turn to the cameras, shrug and say “Sorry folks…I tried.”

Jim says:

> I’ll give Trump enough credit to believe he actually does WANT to deport spics. He won’t be allowed to do so. The active military will tell him to fuck off

The active military fully supports him. Almost everyone at the tip of the spear is Maga.

A fact that may well become important by and by.

He has far more power now than he did last time. And last time, he did deport them.

When push comes to shove, an NCO outranks a supreme court justice. A fact of which Musk, Pete Hegseth, and Kash Patel are very much aware. And Pete Hegseth has multiple bronze star medals, and the NCOs in his pocket.

Karl says:

Are military honors like the bronze star still meaningful or have they been corrupted like almost everything controlled by progressives?

I don’t know anything about US military awards, but suspect that they are give out like college admissions, i.e. a most must go to females, non-whites, fags and trannies.

S says:

How is he going to go to war with Iran? Russia can send shipments across the Caspian Sea, so the US can’t rely on superior firepower, Yemen has shown the US Navy can’t keep the oceans open- is the plan to invade through Turkey or travel Israel-Syria-Iraq?

Pax Imperialis says:

In theory there are large stockpiles of weapons in Saudi Arabia. In theory there’s enough tension between the Saudi Arabs and Persians for war. In theory Iraq is still mostly obedient to State Department desires. Is any of this true? If yes, will it be enough? Who knows? State Department won’t be accountable to the outcome, so might as well fuck around and find out.

Pax Imperialis says:

Oh great, girl boss Witcher 4. The dialogue quality took a noticeable hit too.

Hesiod says:

Razorfist contends we’re now seeing the rotten fruits of the four-year development cycle in entertainment that started during the coof lockdowns:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uY_jxgPOLBo

Alls I know is I’d love an old-school RPG game that’s actually contains adventure rather than constantly bouncing between overly verbose NPCs which is the norm these days.

Make Adventure Great Again

Adam says:

Path of Exile 2 early access was just released. It’s an action RPG but it is as deep as it gets. It’s not for casuals.

Hesiod says:

Played POE2 last weekend for an hour out of curiosity. While the over-all gameplay and mechanics look promising, it suffers two crippling flaws: stingy loot drops and needing to defeat bosses via Death by a Thousand Papercuts. Granted, it’s in early access state, so these aspects may change but I fear the loudest portion of the community wants it to be a grindfest requiring hundreds if not thousands of hours to “git gud”.

Earlier in the week, there was a news story concerning a 23-year-old man in Florida who killed his father and severely wounded his mother. Why? His parents were riding his ass to do something with his life besides play video games. Can’t help but to see certain correlations.

Pax Imperialis says:

There are still plenty of ok games when only looking at gameplay, but gameplay on its own is so very hollow. The people want great stories! They want beautiful art! They want characters to love and hate on the basis of great heroics and villainy. They want complexity and ambiguity with characters that are tragically heroic and villainous. They want Shakespeare.

They get Kathleen Kennedy and JJ Abrams at best.

Entertainment these days is just so bland at best and disgustingly terrible usually.

JustAnotherGuy says:

I remember playing Baldurs Gate 1 with never having played a DnD game before. Turns out I didn’t need to, and the whole story was so intriguing from the get go.

Seeing some weird dopey fortuneteller who was going to scam you run away in fear when she realizes what you are (but you don’t).

Having a succubus either charm you if you are male, or get angry that it was a female who came up the tower and try to kill you.

Minsc was such a great guy. I didn’t give a damn that he didn’t fit my class composition, I was keeping him around for boo as well. You just don’t get these kinds of deliveries anymore in ‘modern’ games: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3MqD7IxaHSI

I saw Baldurs Gate 3 Minsc and can immediately feel that something is off, like some Doppelganger ripped his skin off and is parading around his meat suit doing its best impression of Minsc.

Dead space ‘remastered’ also had all sorts of bullshit like this, with the big titty posters on the ship having the woman become flat chested, I don’t need to clarify why this happens in this blog.

The Cominator says:

Baldurs Gate II was the really awesome RPG IMHO the best of all time. BG III didn’t suck as much as current year stuff normally does but it was no BG II.

BG I also had the annoying experience of dying over and over again because you are a very low level character and even goblins and such can easily kill you.

Hesiod says:

“Baldurs Gate II was the really awesome RPG IMHO the best of all time. BG III didn’t suck as much as current year stuff normally does but it was no BG II.

BG2 is a worthy scion of the Ultima series and SSI goldbox D&D games I cut my teeth on back in the ’80s. Didn’t have the time to complete a playthrough when it was released, but I do fondly recall its class-specific questlines that granted iconic AD&D magic items such as the Holy Avenger and Staff of the Magi.

C4ssidy’s mention of modding leads into my musings while putting the finishing touches on a second Pathfinder WOTR playthrough, this time as a lawful good cleric on the angel mythic path. WOTR replicates a campaign from first level nobody to entry level demigod, complete with managing a kingdom at war. So, very ambitious in scope. It’s the yesterday’s wokeness (the blond, white angel character pics for both sexes you can switch to when reaching a certain rank in that path is inexcusably fascist in the Current Year) that pads out the campaign plot that’s a tad irritating. A rewrite of certain NPCs while completely reworking others would go a long way to make it a truly enjoyable game per Pax’s specs.

The Gasman says:

I find the new Indiana Jones to be a perfect example of what Imperialis is saying. 7.5/10 knockoff of Human Revolution in terms of gameplay, but the story is just another judeo-supremacist romp through Saturday morning cartoon WWII. At least, just this once, it doesn’t come across as hamfistedly shoehorned into the source material, since that simply IS the source material of Indiana Jones.

Pax Imperialis says:

> but the story is just another judeo-supremacist romp through Saturday morning cartoon WWII

That isn’t strictly the core issue with the story, although it is adjacent. Indiana Jones is all about having a Chad romping around exotic and foreign lands, making great discoveries and wooing hot women. The game flaunts your former student Annika who is just begging to be abducted from the enemy, hot. Instead your ‘love’ interest is a butch hair, strong independent, journalist who is your ‘equal’ and who turns you down because of her career priorities. Spiritually you get cucked.

A proper open world Indiana Jones game would have much more in similar to the original Witcher game or the Jame Bonds movies. Yes, card collecting conquests of women and hot women included. Sure, it’s crude and puerile, but that’s the core male fantasy which no one these days seemingly want to acknowledge or much less satisfy. Much like James Bond, the franchise got cucked and woke and boring.

The only reason why this recent game gets any praise is because it’s not nearly as bad as it could’ve been compared to contemporary DEI woke standards, and it’s thus not nearly as obnoxious, but compared to what men want, still a massive failure.

Jim says:

He is wrong. Video games became woke as soon as the eye of Sauron fell upon them a long time ago. They have been rapidly becoming woker, and have reached the point where wokeness supersedes story, action, and character. At which point most normies became Gamergate Two.

Hesiod says:

You are overall correct, but RF is dealing with a certain period of acceleration of wokeness specifically in video games spurred on by an increase in gaming due to not having much else to do while huddling in place during the lockdown. Market boom equates to more apple carts to overturn or beehives to attract wax moths.

The games developed initially in ’20 are now going live. That’s the four-year cycle reaching fruition. And what awful fruits they are.

Jim says:

Martyred Saint Fentanyl Floyd was applied to take over the US AAA games industry. And now, the US AAA games industry dies, causing mass unemployment among game developers.

This takeover was forced by HR and quasi state pension funds.

Good US games are these days developed by foreign game studios from outside the Globohomer empire, or US game developers who rely on teams located outside the globohomo empire — who therefore are immune to the power of Globohomo HR.

US game developers are now unemployable until HR is purged, and HR cannot be purged without the company being lawfared into the ground until the Department of Labor is purged. Trump’s picks for the Pentagon, FBI, National Intelligence, and Health and Human Services Department are clearly intended to enact a drastic purge. Department of Labor? I hear a worrying silence.

Lori Chavez-DeRemer is pro labor and pro union, and has never said a word against quotas, DEI, or censorship. She is, however, an “anti abortion extremist” — meaning she objects to babies being torn apart immediately after birth and their organs being sold off. (You can’t possibly get more extreme than that, can you? 🙃) She also has quietly noticed that the 2020 election was stolen, and is not happy about this. So maybe.

I need to promote this conversation into a gamer post.

The idea about modding is interesting. What WordPress has done is that they censor in order to avoid being censored, but allow, encourage, and support, people to anonymously download WordPress software to run their own uncensored pseudonymous WordPress. So a US game developer could produce a highly moddable woke game, with lots of capabilities that support modding, and have a supposedly independent team outside the Globohomo empire to develop a mod that makes it run the way it should and was originally intended to.

JustAnotherGuy says:

“Department of Labor? I hear a worrying silence.”

Jim, when you say this, do you mean they are likely to get purged, or unlikely to get purged?

Jim says:

I do not know whether the Department of Labor is going to get purged or not. If not purged, going to be impossible to dewokeify existing companies that have gone woke, and any company that reaches substantial size is going to find that for certain jobs, HR will only approve members of the Woke priesthood.

Fidelis says:

HR cannot be purged without the company being lawfared into the ground until the Department of Labor is purged

Looks to me like they’re interested in scaling smaller companies and startups, rather than attempting to reform the decaying giants. Mysterious lack of diversity in the spinoffs from SpaceX and Tesla engineers. In that case, selective application and a wink wink nudge that you can just make things work and ignore the lawfare will probably be effective. The game developers likely to get swept up making code and interfaces for the new automated factories, mines, and killbots.

Also seeing some early signs the diversity is getting canceled in video series. The Warhammer 40K series was originally going to be queer, now looks like it will be heroic. That’s coming out of prime video, if they successfully ignore HR to do so, so can anyone else.

I’m not expecting much of a political fight besides theater. It looks to me like the fix is in, the squabbles are just minor personnel preferences from here on out, and we are game for war reindustrialization.

The movies and games will feature white heros. The automated factories will be built by white engineers with a smattering of asians not connected to China. The killbots designed and built by white engineers. The equivalent of Letters of Marque handed to men like Prince to subdue the savages, clean the roads and reopen the mines. Mass deportation of all the trash carried out with only some quiet whimpering.

The sea change has been too drastic for me to think there’s serious resistance remaining. All this has started getting prepped with very little resistance even before the Trump team has their guys in seats. Lefty puppet politicians suddenly in favor of previously unthinkable Trump policy. Soon the praetorians will be headed by war faction loyalists and resistance will be impossible.

Something seriously spooked these people, looks to me like preparations were started before 2022, and the failed proxy war accelerated and made tentative plans serious. I think the failed covid response shook out how little power they actually had over the populations they supposedly control, it was too failed and unorganized to their tastes. Then the failed external war sealed in their minds that it is time to replace the failed incompetent middle men.

Jim says:

The normies took the initial jab, and initially put up with lockdown. But there was mass normie resistance to the boost, due to word of mouth anecdote of the consequences of the jab.

This shocked the elite. They realised they had gone too far. And then the Ukraine war. Suddenly they realised you can print unlimited money, but you cannot print unlimited weapons. I think that only a small minority of the elite decided something must be done, but they were a smart minority in an overwhelmingly dumb as rocks elite, and were able to cohere on backing off current year leftism. So Thermidor had cohesion. Probably considerably less cohesion than the various gay mafias, but the gay mafias have open entry to younger and handsomer members of the elite, and the younger members of the elite are all dumb as rocks.

JustAnotherGuy says:

“Looks to me like they’re interested in scaling smaller companies and startups, rather than attempting to reform the decaying giants.”

That Ubisoft is going to go under gives credence to this claim. My problems with this are there is a sea of garbage that can be activated at any time for these smaller startups (“hey, you’re breaking some IP laws, hand over the money”). DoD can protect Musk, can they protect a hundred different companies from the endless carpet baggers? Do they really want to protect them against laws *they made* so they can bring up a parallel institution not under their direct control?

I look at Putin and see a guy who still refuses to do what is necessary despite death staring him in the face. Unfortunately, the situation isn’t that severe for our masters, and they are far higher in their ivory towers than Putin is.

Varna says:

> “The automated factories will be built by white engineers with a smattering of asians not connected to China.”

TSMC tried to build and operate a factory in Arizona, quickly found out it needs to import whole families from Taiwan to get anything done, while the “train the locals to be part of this” element of the scheme seems to be increasingly unraveling.

That’s not a smattering of asians, that’s an asian core. And you never know with the Taiwanese, in the “connected to China” dimension. I think the glorious opening of the facility has been moved from 2024 to 2028.

South Korea has been threatening to build three super-factories in Kentucky and Tennessee after signing something with the Biden, but still sort of just about to start any minute now. Also likely with a core of imported Koreans who will “train the locals to take over at some point”.

In 2022 Koreans begun building a battery factory in Georgia, but have begun importing even plumbers and sheit from Korea, which makes local unions unhappy, the authorities arrest Korean workers for not having the proper papers. The Korean spokesmen are forced to keep assuring everyone that once the factory is up and running it will totally be operated by the locals, and everything is being done by imported koreans only for now, due to this and that… https://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/tech/2024/02/419_294751.html

In short, the current reindustrialization attempts with the help of EA allies keep getting snags, and the allies are forced to import everyone they need from home, and try to exclude the locals from even sweeping the floors on the construction sites if they can get away with it.

Jim says:

The Koreans and Taiwanese are probably forced to rely on local American HR, because of regulatory compliance, and because the HR is foreign to them find it extra hard to keep HR in line, and if you do not keep HR in line, they will not let anyone through unless the applicant has an advanced Harvard degree in ignorance, stupidity, malice, and hatred.

China industrialised by inviting foreigners to take advantage of cheap labor — which cheap labor turned out to be very smart, hard working people, who, even if they were sweeping the floor were figuring out how to imitate the foreign facility. The Chinese sent their best, because they wanted to learn.

Musk set up a battery factory and a Tesla factory in China, and lickety spit the Chinese were making better EVs and better batteries in his factories, and shortly after that, making them in their own factories.

Thing is, China has an efficient filter system for finding and mobilising the smart fraction, while our universities are now selecting for stupidity, envy, ignorance, and malice. This makes it very hard to build anything. Musk can handle this in the US, because no language barrier. You can tell who is smart just by sniffing him if you are little bit smarter than he is, but alien race, alien culture, and foreign language makes that a lot harder.

So the Koreans just cannot find any Americans who are actually useful. Finding Americans who are actually useful is effectively illegal, just marriage is effectively illegal. You just have to break laws as necessary, and though Koreans are pretty good at breaking laws, in a foreign land they are going to be extra careful about it.

Chinese have produced variants on the electric vehicle to which Musk has no equivalent, among them their truly wonderful hybrids, and their batteries are now way ahead of his batteries. Way way ahead of his batteries.

The BYD DM is a fundamentally new kind of hybrid, one that has no equivalent in the west, no equivalent from any other car manufacturer. It is currently very expensive, though in time there will be models that are somewhat less expensive. It will never be cheap, but is a better kind of vehicle than any car that currently exists. It is going to wipe out the higher end of the car industry in any place that does not put prohibitive tariffs against it. Tesla in China is now behind the times and playing catch up. Their batteries are not as good, and their cars are not as good. China is now the leading edge of car technology. But Tesla still has a huge lead in self driving. Tesla has been promising self driving next year for seven years, but now it looks as if they have actual self driving, and are just walking it through regulatory approval.

Fidelis says:

@Varna

We cannot infer much until the new team has asses in seats. The whole chips circus was run by the very diverse Biden admin, and included provisions like ensuring the construction crew had access to lactation rooms. Who knows any of the other ridiculous and counterproductive mandates that came out of the pantsuit class, probably something like explicitly making sure you keep the hired ratio at three colorful queers to two mexicans to one paleskin. Any and all information on successes and setbacks is coming from retarded liars; theyre not even smart enough to imbue the lie with a kernel of truth.

Alf says:

and their batteries are now way ahead of his batteries. Way way ahead of his batteries.

Really? I’d expect the lithium-ion battery to have been optimized or near optimization by this point.

Jim says:

The huge problem with lithium batteries is that they are an expensive way of powering something. They wear out. Powering a car on electricity is theoretically cheaper than gasoline, but once you factor in the cost of replacing the batteries from time to time, it is costlier, and sucks up more scarce resources, than gasoline..

BYD makes substantially cheaper batteries that last substantially more charge discharge cycles, making batteries an economically feasible storage medium. This will completely alter the landscape for solar power, which will become economic once solar power systems based around the new BYD batteries become available, and completely alters the landscape for DM hybrid vehicles, which is what BYD is right now concentrating on.

Right now, if you buy a low end BYD vehicle at China prices, and use it as battery backup for your solar power system instead of as a car, it is cheaper than the currently available battery packs. Cheaper than a Tesla wall of equivalent storage.

Up till now solar power has been a green scam, but now, technologically viable. Off grid will shortly become economical.

One huge problem with offgrid is sewage disposal laws. A vastly smaller system that laws mandate is amply sufficient to get rid of sewage, but then you will not get council approval. I have a sewage system that was legal (but still massive overkill) fifty years ago, and a completely illegal grey water system. Albeit the grey water system sort of accreted, rather than being designed. When it stops working, I dig another hole. I may eventually have to do the same for the sewage system.

Varna says:

> “Musk set up a battery factory and a Tesla factory in China, and lickety spit the Chinese were making better EVs and better batteries in his factories, and shortly after that, making them in their own factories.”

Guy I know worked in that part of China at the time. According to him the background is as follows: China had founded a few EV companies, but they quickly developed Russian state company behavior patterns — skim the budget, write endless reports about endless progress but give more gibs etc.

So comrade Xi at some point asked Elon specifically to come over and build his factories in the very same region where the local companies clustered, and told the companies “now listen here assholes. From this point onward you’re competing in real time with this guy, and I better get actual results fast from you losers or else.”

In this sense, according to this interpretation, Musk’s role was also of a boot up the ass of the locals to keep them from only pretending to work. Apparently it worked.

alf says:

If that’s all true, that is remarkably good news. And impressively innovative from the Chinese.

One huge problem with offgrid is sewage disposal laws. A vastly smaller system that laws mandate is amply sufficient to get rid of sewage, but then you will not get council approval.

John Seymour advocates a dry toilet and using the waste as compost.

Jim says:

the BYD clone of the Model 3 compared with the Model 3.

Same price, same performance, minor nice little details on the China car that improve on little things.

But. Grossly inferior software to Tesla. Tesla Better UI, better autopilot.

Similar range. But BYD claims much longer battery life, much more charge recharge cycles. Batteries are a little bit heavier, which means noticeably poorer handling.

ayyylmao says:

Why would Elon breed his own competitors? Simply moronic.

And in any case you can pry my old growly Porsche from my cold, dead hands.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTdO-w3xnpw

Jim says:

Musk maintains a small island of tech advance in a sea of social, economic, scientific, and technological decline. Needs a wider land of tech advance.

Wants the world to go solar. Attempted to reduce the cost of solar power. Failed. Chinese succeeded. Better batteries and cheaper solar power are all stuff he wants, that the Chinese have done. He helped them because he wants what they have accomplished.

S says:

@ayyylmaosays
Elon either thought the Chinese couldn’t do it or he holds colonizing the solar system to be all important and was willing to risk losing Tesla in exchange for better battery and electric motor technology for space exploration.

Fidelis says:

Same price, same performance, minor nice little details on the China car that improve on little things.

Why is it everything the Chinese do seems to resemble this? Like a weak one degree evolution optimization algorithm, they’ll copy a process wholesale, then do a slow walk on mutations. Look at that car, there’s barely anything at all changed. Almost everything I see coming out of that country looks like this. Is this some weird byproduct of incentive structures or some kind of national character?

I see this in academia too. Worthless slop research papers better suited as a sidenote to a conjecture or a table in a results database. I’m not sure I’ve ever seen an all-chinese name paper that wasn’t a waste of time.

They clearly are good at process optimization, but have no sense of ultimate vision. Outside of low price and scale, the only product that seemed even remotely innovative was that Huawei tri-fold phone, since it wasn’t a clear copy of the samsung single-fold version.

I’ve met and spoken to some clearly intelligent engineers from the middle kingdom, but something is missing. I used to think the “they can’t innovate” narrative was pure cope, but more and more it really seems like they cannot. They can optimize, and they can do random walks in ways that don’t introduce clearly deletorious mutations, but real innovation is missing, and I’m not sure why.

I would love if they pulled off some real innovation, because I want space factories and uranium fueled mine robots that self heal as they digest the ore they’re excavating. Instead we get cheaper boston dynamics bots with maybe one or two extra showy tricks.

Jim says:

> I’ve met and spoken to some clearly intelligent engineers from the middle kingdom, but something is missing. I used to think the “they can’t innovate” narrative was pure cope, but more and more it really seems like they cannot.

I have had the same experience. They also tend to follow specification in an overly literal way. They are not very good at learning from a written account of a process, though very good if they are there and actually see the process. Very smart hard working energetic people, but there is something missing.

On the other hand, a whole lot of minor optimisations have added up to a major improvement in battery longevity, a major reduction in battery cost, and a major reduction in solar panel cost.

c4ssidy says:

You could make a great, fully complete, non-woke game with minimal effort through modding. Take Morrowind for example, remove female soldiers, add wives and children into the homes of the NPCs, add questionable motivations to the Twin Lamps, and morally dubious consequences of releasing all the slaves, and either remove orcs from the legions or add questionable consequences from attempting to integrate them. It would be mostly rewriting dialogue. It would be very fun to write, and very fun to play. I had an Oblivion dialogue rewrite going and it was super fun, because the NPCs started feeling real. For instance, the triggered 2006 writers never used ‘to kill’, everything was bizarre, mafia style language, ‘take care of him’, even when contextually highly inappropriate, and the simple act of switching to blunt language make the game no longer feel muffled. Woke is like a padded room of unfun and unreal.

Also, since only old games are good, it’s a big trend these days to decompile and recompile old stuff, or build new engines which work with the original assets, causing moddability to keep getting easier.

Of course, if you tried hosting such a mod, it would be scrubbed from google, and certainly banned from any of the hosting platforms, or they’d go after your domain name and such. So even the straightforward task of building a non-woke game, takes everyone back to the problem of needing the new internet, node-to-node storage of files hosted simultaneously nowhere and everywhere, and with permanent links. It needs the mod archives themselves to be decentralized.

Jim says:

Times have changed. They will not go after foreign domain names, and very likely not go after local domain names. The FBI is who seizes domain names, Kash Patel is going to be in charge of the FBI, and having himself suffered FBI censorship, is unlikely to be keen on seizing politically incorrect domain names.

Google is going to derank it, but people mostly hear of mods on gaming sites, which are increasingly anti woke.

Niiiidriveevof says:

there are some such sites. laxmods.site and basedmods.eth.limo are two

c4ssidy says:

Well even so, still need permanent storage. A lot of the hard work of people in pass decades turned into dead links, the data either vanished or came very close to it (often some dedicated autist will save stuff but this isn’t a reliable system). The same is true even for text. Decades of those old php forum posts seem to be totally gone, archive.org very limited in what it can snapshot, and is itself a point of failure. I wouldn’t like to put a lot of hard effort into a project without expecting it to be reliably preserved. Even big projects will suffer the usual entropic processes and demon internal takeover. the counter examples are themselves points of failure because logically the dude hosting will die of old age, retire, lose interest, etc, or if an organisation, then entropy and corruption. A big part of this problem is lack of ease of duplication. I think this was a huge flaw in the internet since the start. A website should have been duplicable in a single click, with the duplication including all source material (images etc), database stuff like comments, if it was that easy we would never have lost anything of even slightest value, and to the extent one might have a technical objection to the one-click duplicate web concept , that is my point, the whole html/js/php bundle of systems being inherently flawed, rewarding obfuscation and punishing duplication and preservation and branching/remixing of previous material

Jim says:

In the days of communication by letter and publication by book and journal, an enormous amount of information was preserved for posterity.

Now in the days of communication by social media and publication by website, we have a lot more information that is a lot more accessible, but it is continually and rapidly getting lost, with the result that our past is apt to get rewritten 1984 style at alarmingly short intervals. It is more accessible over space, but less accessible over time.

The trouble with the PHP model is that it is brittle against PHP extensions. So existing websites suffer bitrot. My website recently went down by bitrot, and it was not easy to restore it, nor was the restoration entirely satisfactory. A tremendous amount of website structure is implicit in PHP code. To prevent bitrot, it would need to be explicit in the append only tables.

One should have a pile of files under git source control, which gets compiled into a website. Which I have for my rhocoin project. And be able to implement a blog with comments on it, which I do not have, and which would require a great deal of work. Trouble is one needs a database, which does not easily fit into the git pile of files model.

One could create an sqlite extension in which tables were regular append only files ordered by date, and sqlite then generated normal sql indexes of those primary files, which are additional normal sql tables generated from those files. The primary tables would then fit in the git pile of files of model, and the regular database would come up on compilation of a new table, or appending to an existing table.

A2 says:

I saw a reference at Unz to a professor getting fired by a Catholic university for being demon possessed and thought to myself ‘based!’.

The descriptions I’ve found is a bit muddier than that but it’s eminently clear that the guy, David Charles Ammon Hillman, is 100% unsuitable for his job (adjunct professor, ahem, and no kidding also janitor, lol) and could indeed reasonably be described as demon possessed. One of those who simply must infiltrate and transgress as far as possible. Seems to be one of those drug activists too, possibly a satanist, etc etc. I’m ready and willing to push him out of the chopper without chatting.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ammon_Hillman
https://www.thefire.org/news/silenced-saint-marys-censorship-and-academic-freedom-concerns-raised-after-professors-firing
https://medium.com/ill-ixi-lli/ammon-hillman-is-unstoppable-2c5199a20529

Firing very based, theatre kids young and old crying what about freedom of speech.

Fidelis says:

Continuing from this discussion

DoD can protect Musk, can they protect a hundred different companies from the endless carpet baggers?

Yes. They will protect one or two in a very public way, and the judges will get the picture that the game has changed and stop trying. This is while they are replaced one by one from the top down.

Do they really want to protect them against laws *they made* so they can bring up a parallel institution not under their direct control?

Frankly I’m as dumbfounded as you are, but yes. Looks like they want direct control over the praetorian agencies, and they just want everything else to work at maximum capability. Letting the leash out to the furthest extent. Why the drastic change in attitude? Im not exactly sure, but all signs point to this being very serious, very organized, and a complete 180 on the current course.

They might even intentionally crash the USD in favor of BTC for the reindustrialization. I’ve seen some policy wonks propose as much already, and no one seems to want to actually fix the finances, they want it so that the killbot factories and the nuclear bombs work. Seriously crazy policy choices that smart people have been proposing for decades now are all suddenly on the table.

Even crazier than taking the leash off of industry, I fully expect a sudden explosion of PMCs. They are going to tame Africa and South America.

Pax Imperialis says:

> Yes. They will protect one or two in a very public way

Musk gets attacked because got too big to hide away and obfuscate.

> Looks like they want direct control over the praetorian agencies, and they just want everything else to work at maximum capability.

The praetorian agencies are already under their direct control. That’s why they are able to protect what little functionality they retain, but it’s at the cost of scalability. Take Palantir for example which has received noticeably little to no lawfare despite the political connection to Theil. For every Palantir, there are hundreds of smaller companies and agencies and commands, all of which DOD is protecting by keeping them behind the scene, tucked away, and small scale. Despite small scale, much of gov would not function without them, but it’s at the cost of much higher cost. The workforce in that segment of DOD/affiliates is almost entirely white men (and their part asian descendants) and the contractors used were entirely only white men.

In a way this is like Twitter pre-Musk. A tiny protected core of engineers keeping everything working surrounded by significant chaff. Post-Musk, not having to be quiet about how things actually work, quick advances in efficiency. DOD not having to be discrete about how stuff works will allow for considerable and faster up-scaling.

> Frankly I’m as dumbfounded as you are, but yes.

Just as every good progressive is for housing equality, every good progressive (that matters) doesn’t want it in their neighborhood.

> They are going to tame Africa and South America.

And they’re going to do that by strictly and harshly enforcing white laws on african people under a hierarchical command based warrior law. I’m telling y’all, forcing natives to cleave to your ways and removing those who won’t and can’t is completely feasible and a good thing. Yes to segregation, no to (noticeably) different laws.

Jim says:

> The praetorian agencies are already under their direct control.

No they are not. In particular the FBI is fouling up all their other entities, and diversity equity and inclusion is sailing navy ships into dangerously stationary obstacles. Repair and maintenance of aircraft carriers is slow and getting slower, and they definitely do not like that. Particularly as diverse officers are likely to result in repairs being needed more frequently. Our nuclear subs are frequently unable to make their own oxygen from seawater and electricity, and so have to frequently return to port for resupply, which destroys the whole point of nuclear submarines, and have to hang around in port for an unreasonably long time, because resupply gets strangely delayed.

Pax Imperialis says:

Patriot Front disbanded the same day FBI director resigned. Women vanished from the Secret Service. The number of legal cases against male officers for ‘conduct unbecoming’ (making a hostile environment for women) have suddenly shrunk.

Orders from the top have clearly changed. You point out a number of accumulated problems from the past. I suspect those problems are going away in short order. It’s just a matter of making it official which would allow for rapid scaling.

Jim says:

> Patriot Front disbanded the same day FBI director resigned.

There has been a marked reduction in the amount of shilling, and a change in the content of the remaining shilling, though it went away about a week earlier than the FBI director announced his resignation. About the same time as Walmart announced it was ending diversity, equity, and inclusion.

Culture is downstream of power.

Pax Imperialis says:

Does that not all point to thermidor having direct control of the institutions that matter including the praetorians? That they haven’t gone full reactionary is a result of them being thermidor and stumbling in the dark looking for a solution. Much like Putin. Also, no one wants to jump without official authority green lighting what needs to be done.

Had there not been direct control, would still see women secret service, among other issues, and Trump likely having to resort to private security solutions. That or he would be dead by now.

someDude says:

Not enough to make the cases go away. Need to hunt down and punish those who brought the cases against the male officers in the first place

JustAnotherGuy says:

“culture is downstream of power.”

I agree with this, and yet, the brakes on the DEI train are just not stopping:

https://x.com/CivGame/status/1869082840396149216

I can only hope that this is inertia, and it doesn’t last another four years. Not strictly speaking about gaming, just video games and movies are a leading indicator to where the rest of society will be going.

Speaking about gaming, I’m sure some of you guys will argue civilization was always a gay game, and you might be right. If they could get away with it, they would have an abortion technology lead to hover tanks or whatever. But I don’t think Sid Meier’s is himself gay rather than just being held hostage like Linus is.

Jim says:

The brakes are stopping.

Unfortunately the stop is taking the form of game companies collapsing and massive unemployment amoung US gaming engineers.

A major factor in the woke takeover of gaming was free money. The government was handing out huge amounts of money through the backdoor for the development of woke games, laundered through Blackrock and others. This backdoor funding has come to a sudden halt, hence the sudden mass unemployment. However, the people installed in power in game companies to ensure that this money was dispensed as intended are, for the most part, still in power. And will remain so until all the backdoor money has been pissed away. What we are seeing is that when a woke game is released, most of the people who were working on lose their jobs, even if it does not do too badly.

A great deal of game developer employment was generated by willingness to spend money like water on woke games. hence the run of games that were unreasonably expensive to develop. They were chucking wheelbarrows of freshly printed money into changing gamer culture, and quite a lot of engineers got jobs as a result. Not to mention a thundering herd of diversities.

New grants of free money to create woke games are not coming, but the people installed to wokify games that were launched by free money are still there. The woke game, having been funded years ago, will be released, still woke. However “investment” money to fund the next woke game is not forthcoming.

The Cominator says:

Games are actually a lagging indicator IMHO so don’t worry too much about this.

S says:

Civilization was a lagging follower of current year- compare Civilization 3 (2001) with Sid Miers Alpha Centauri (1999). 32 leaders (5 female) versus 14 leaders (6 female), ecofeminism and the science victory being Star Trek energy beings.

Civilization 5 is the turning point. Compare the total conversion mods for Civilization 4 to 5.

ayyylmao says:

I endorse substantially everything you’ve said on these matters except that they’ll crash USD in favor of BTC. That will never happen.

Jim says:

They do not intend to crash the US$ in favor of BTC, but they do not regard keeping the US$ around as a priority.

The Cominator says:

With 38 trillion in debt the US dollar cannot be saved even if they wanted to.

ayyylmao says:

The “national” debt isn’t real, dawg. Sorry.

Jim says:

Nuts.

National debt is real. Fiat money is debt money. If the national debt is denominated in the money of the issuer, and it issues too much money, the currency is apt to vanish.

ayyylmao says:

The bigger threat is deflation than inflation. The interest rate is also completely fake. What holds up fiat money is belief. And what generates belief isn’t what you think.

alf says:

The bigger threat is deflation than inflation.

Maduro’s Venezuela, Mugabe’s Zimbabwe and Weimar Germany all seem much more daunting to me than Hoover’s America.

Pax Imperialis says:

I remember reading accounts of Americans who lived through the great depression. Many of them said that they survived because prices came down and that it was manageable with the lower pay. That’s a pretty distinct contrast to survivors of inflation who reported that the massive increases of costs far outpaced increases in pay.

Note deflationary America didn’t erupt in violence and multiple attempted revolutions like inflationary Germany.

Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

All forms of deflation dooming is literally a psyop by bad guys who want to keep their inflation tax.

ayyylmao says:

If you have a reasonable idea for what they’ll replace USD with I’d love to hear it.

Jim says:

They will think about that after fiat currencies start collapsing.

It took Caesar Augustus twelve years to bring the Roman government to order, and he had death squads. Doge is unduly optimistic about what can be done, and how fast it can be done. Suppose the government keeps on spending money like a drunken sailor. Then the fed fiat dollar goes away. And they are not unduly alarmed by that prospect.

The US can run a ginormous deficit for a very long time without adverse consequences by jacking up interest rates higher and higher, which is kicking the can down the road. But the debt is real, in that one day you do reach the end of the road.

And when interest payments on the debt are a major part of the deficit, the end of the road is in sight. You can always get out of that hole by just cancelling US treasuries, which is less damaging than allow the fiat dollar to inflate to nothing. But what government usually do when they are in this hole is inflate.

A2 says:

Just in recent years, the Fed has printed first 15% of GDP in 2009, then 14% more in 2020-21.

The Fed also holds bonds at a loss of currently somewhat more than $800 bn on a capital of $44 bn. The loss is because of the interest rate going up. They claim not to be bust because of ‘holding to maturity’ rather than ‘mark to market’. Other central banks have the same problem.

At the time Goldfinger was made, an ounce of gold cost $34 (it’s mentioned in the movie). Now it’s north of $2000, a dollar decline in value of 95%. Some Western currencies are worse with declines of 99% or so, but none are significantly better.

ayyylmao says:

The dollar isn’t valued against gold, it’s valued against human labor. You’re going to cry “labor theory of value” but it’s actually “store of value” theory. The general acceptability of a money is the dominant factor.

ayyylmao says:

Why can’t USG just lower interest rates? They kept interest at zero for over a decade. Everyone thought that they would be at zero forever. Why did they raise them back? No one knows.

Jim says:

If you are running a large deficit, and keep interest rates low, you run into hyperinflation fairly quickly.

If you keep raising interest rates, you can kick the can down the road for a long time.

Pax Imperialis says:

>it’s valued against human labor

Everything is in a sense valued against human labor. Even gold which takes human labor to mine form the ground and refine it and forge it and safe keep it and transfer it and etc…

USD is backed by global hegemony and threat of violence. It’s not our goods and commercial services that float the value of the dollar as seen by our trade deficit which is clearly sustained by printing. It’s our military, and that has been in noticeable and sustain decline for the last few decades, and in the last few years in accelerating decline.

Mayflower Sperg says:

Saving a failing currency is easy once you have the power and the will: Suspend all payments on the national debt, print just enough money to pay the men with guns, and tell everyone else to get a fucking job. It’s been done before.

The idea that national governments will base their economies on Bitcoin is ridiculous. Suddenly Goldfinger’s hare-brained scheme to steal thousands of tons of gold from Fort Knox becomes a simple matter of hacking the Treasury’s computers and copying the wallet.dat file.

The Dark Enlightenment talks about the importance of throne and altar, then tells us that crypto will save the world because it’s completely decentralized. Everything good needs a sovereign to keep it good — there can be no SpaceX without Elon Musk, nor a Jim’s Blog without Jim.

Bix Nudelmann says:

“It’s been done before.”

Is that so? 1930’s Germany you mean? Some other time and place?

The Cominator says:

“Saving a failing currency is easy once you have the power and the will: Suspend all payments on the national debt”
This alone makes your currency dogshit as far as its exchange value for a number of years. So no, the dollar can’t be saved as reserve currency…

Jim says:

The idea of basing paper money and banking on Bitcoin is stupid. Not because wallets are insecure. Ordinary competence provides ample security. If the government held bitcoin, would be far safer than holding gold. What you are referring to is the “Bitcoin Standard”, Hal Finney’s dumb idea of banks and governments issuing paper backed by a fractional reserve of Bitcoin, rather than a fractional reserve of Gold. Fractional reserve results in term transformation, which is how the Gold Standard died. I discuss this dumb idea and the evils that ensued during the Gold Standard in “Usury

Ordinary people using their own Bitcoin instead of government fiat or bank accounts is already happening. Satoshi’s goal was to get them out of the money business, not persuade them to use Bitcoin.

Fidelis says:

The idea that national governments will base their economies on Bitcoin is ridiculous.

“The idea that kings will have to resort to gold for paying their troops is ridiculous. They can simply mint as many brass coins as they’d like, so they would never give up that power.”

Bitcoin solves the exchange between soverigns problem better than gold. The gold standard comes and goes based on whether or not you have a hegemon or a multipolar order. We’re returning to multipolarity, so the digital age equivalent of gold will return.

Jim says:

I expect sovereigns to transact with other sovereigns using bitcoin. But the Bitcoin standard, like the gold standard, is subjects transacting with other subjects of through banks controlled by the Sovereign. Not likely, and if it happens, will be a very bad thing, just as the gold standard was a very bad thing, though not as bad as fiat is. I discuss Hal Finney’s very bad idea in “Usury“.

Fidelis says:

I read it. I expect the vast majority of people to just use whatever is simplest, which means the vast majority will be trading fake wrapped BTC of some form endorsed by the state. The tech savvy will not, and it will lower the barrier to entry for becoming your own bank, and the barrier for exiting the system, allow for at least soverign information management contracts, as well as increase the cost of currency manipulation, so on the whole a good outcome.

States don’t even have to be insidious and power hungry for this outcome. Most will probably just coast on the momentum, which means when they stabilize their shitty fiat with BTC, and it just works, they will stop changing things. Normal people will notice that hey, the currency is less shitty, and just go along doing what they were doing before. Some small fraction will continue to be enthusiasts, but will be mostly exchanging with other enthusiasts. Some edge case uses where the bugocrats infringe too far and destroy function, like international payments and such, will also be popular if frowned upon.

If I’m a company, I want to be able to have some measure of control over shares. It would make no sense to e.g. peg share price exactly 1 to 1 with some other currency or commodity. Why would this impulse be different for a state?

Varna says:

> “1930’s Germany you mean? Some other time and place?”

If one searches online for hyperinflation examples, there’s a list, but or some reason 1990s Eastern Europe is missing. You have to already know what to look for and specifically type in “hyperinflation 1990s Serbia/Montenegro/Bulgaria/Poland/Ukraine/Russia/Georgia” etc.

It’s mostly the same story: a torturous transition from a collapsed Brezhnevist command economy to some sort of wishy-washy half-baked mix.

This appears to work for a bit, then hyperinflation hits, the govt goes on a campaign how everyone is imagining things and the economy is in fact growing, and whatever isn’t working is because of saboteurs. Then either people storm Parliament or some less conspicuous change happens; usually (not always but frequently) some local reaganists taking control and fixing everything in a month.

Interesting and potentially useful case studies, but one has to know what to look for.

Mayflower Sperg says:

Suspending all payments on the national debt is going to piss off your bondholders, but they were fools to lend you money and deserve to be punished for it.

As Varna noted, when faced with the choice of cutting the state budget by 90% or letting the currency become completely worthless, most states choose the former, because if you don’t pay the soldiers, they’ll be playing soccer with your head.

Austerity stops price inflation dead in its tracks. Food and rent will come way down when there’s no EBT, no Section 8, and no cushy government jobs for strong independent black women.

A2 says:

Suspending your debt payments is not that unusual. Consider the many cases in the third world, the Asian currency crisis in the 90s or, why not, like currently popular Argentina. Argentina seems to have gone through five currencies in about a hundred years, from the peso moneda nacional to the current peso, introduced in 1992. It has defaulted on its debt nine times in 200 years (three times in the 21st century, if I’m counting correctly). Persistent and high inflation with occasional hyperinflation is of course a feature too. Tying the peso to the dollar didn’t help, that ended up with one of the recent defaults.

What else might happen? Jewish money managers may try to repossess a carrier (like Paul Singer did). The reserve currency status will be gone, like when the British pound was replaced by the dollar. (I vaguely recall reading the pound declined to about 1/3 its former value as a reserve currency.) The can-do attitude of the non-white majority will be tested.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/afontevecchia/2012/10/05/the-real-story-behind-the-argentine-vessel-in-ghana-and-how-hedge-funds-tried-to-seize-the-presidential-plane/

Air Force One exchanged for a pile of worthless bonds?

(The effects of something like that will presumably be quite hard on Europe too, should it happen.)

Milosevic says:

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1868351943288181144

“Interesting.

We need to rethink how messaging, including email, works overall.”

Dear Jim, dear Gentlemen,

We are indeed living in interesting times. Does anyone have a theory why censorship can be super effective for a while, and then it completely fails?

We have this in Europe about Ukraine now. Now the idea of Ukraine losing is very openly discussed. A few weeks, maybe months ago, it was utterly forbidden, suppressed in a grassroots-LOOKING, cancel-culture way. (It is never really grassroots, of course. But it can be made to look so.)

I do not care about the Ukraine. The Ukraine is mostly farmland, bought up on the cheap by American agribusinesses, they did not even leave some of the loot they took for us Euros to take, lol, so I do not care. I am anti-socialist, but I am not a fanboy of any random crony-capitalist. They made their decision, now let them enforce it. None of my business.

What I care about is social technology. How does this work? Very efficient grassroots-LOOKING censorship, and then it suddenly falls apart?

Another, different topic. Western Civ is suddenly showing some life again? Like the CIA or whoever kicked the Russians out of Syria, knowing how much Russians like warm water ports, an painful hit? And the rebuilding of the Notre-Dame and the masses at the ceremony…

Also anyone noticed Seb Gorka saying Trump can intimidate Putin? We Hungarians did…

Dharmicreality says:

> We are indeed living in interesting times. Does anyone have a theory why censorship can be super effective for a while, and then it completely fails?

The way censorship works is when you have a live and healthy state religion and the megaphone of priestly consensus drowns out all the dissent and makes dissent or divergence from the unofficial official line low status as well as dangerous to express in public, in other words “crime thought”. When the state religion is virtuous this is not a problem.

If the state religion weakens, so does the megaphone of consensus and dissent doesn’t get drowned out so much and especially when backed by a priestly faction such as Thermidor becomes relatively higher status and less dangerous.

Once crime thought is echoed by a faction of priests without danger and without much reputational damage it no longer is crime thought.

Jim says:

> What I care about is social technology. How does this work? Very efficient grassroots-LOOKING censorship, and then it suddenly falls apart?

The nature of University is that whatever it is ostensible teaching, it is training people in priesting. A University is a seminary of the state religion. Always has been, always will be.

The massive expansion of University education was a Ponzi scheme. And created a huge oversupply of state priests. Many of whom were assigned to the job of censoring. Which worked fine, so long as somewhat furtively backed by state power, and so long as the line from on top was clear.

Reflect on the enormous number of do-nothing jobs at Twitter. This was the creation of jobs for the priesthood. Similarly HR. Censorship was one of many jobs for the boys programs.

Because demonic (transing children, unilateral abortion at whim, the cult of ugliness, Covid) they wanted to destroy Western Civilisation. Because universalist, wanted to conquer the world (“Democracy”, the “Rules Based” order).

Which are incompatible wants. When this incompatibility became apparent, we got disunity within the priesthood. They need a King, but are unable to produce one. Which is why Biden was chosen as a placeholder, and why he was replaced by Kamala. A difficult and complicated decision has to be made, and they are unable to make it.

Napoleon says:

“What I care about is social technology. How does this work? Very efficient grassroots-LOOKING censorship, and then it suddenly falls apart?”

The elite faction(s) Jim calls Thermidor are a particular brand of parasites. They do financial parasitism (banking etc) and corporate corruption parasitism (e.g. big pharma’s profits in the vax during covid) on the American masses, and various forms of parasitism on foreign nations. They hate us (the honest people of Americans, and Christians) because we oppose their evils.

For a long time they hated us more than they hated the left, and they used/partnered with the left/woke to crush us and keep us down. Recently they realized that the incompetence caused by woke is hurting their ability to be parasites on foreign nations via hard power. So they suddenly switched to clamping down somewhat on woke & some other forms of reality denial. The sudden switch in censorship came top-down from some small group with the power to make that call. It is not easy to tell who has that power, but it is so obviously coordinated that it is almost certainly, as Jim says, a group of men small enough to fit around a table.

They are not doing this because they are good or they are our friends. They still hate us. They are only doing it because their brand of parasitism was being threatened by the woke left’s brand of parasitism.

“Western Civ is suddenly showing some life again? Like the CIA or whoever kicked the Russians out of Syria”

What happened in Syria is the U.S. deep state hitting the gas pedal as hard as it can before Trump takes office. The deep state is not “Western Civ”. The deep state got a win (in their own eyes); that does not mean it is a win for Western Civ or for us (good honest people).

“Also anyone noticed Seb Gorka saying Trump can intimidate Putin?”

Gorka is an idiot who believes “Putler bad”. There is absolutely no need to try to intimidate Putin. There is a very great need for America’s leaders and deep state to leave Putin and Russia alone, and stop poking the bear in a hopeless (it won’t work) and exceedingly unwise (risk WW3) attempt to color revolution Russia so as to get their dirty mitts on that sweet oil and natural gas and to turn Russia into a “liberal democracy” a.k.a. “we Thermidorians get to parasite on Russia the way we parasite on America.”

Karl says:

Censorship about Ukraine was super effective for a while, and then suddenly abandoned. My impression here in Germany is that they could have maintained censorship, but gave up when Trump was elected.

white bread says:

How many people in Germany admit that their US masters blew up Nordstream?

Orthodox_uber_chad says:

*first time poster, shill test*
Women are responsible for most sexual misconduct, Jews rejected Christ and worship Satan, Africans are criminally low IQ. True Christianity is best defined by the Nicene Creed. Anything in contradiction is heresy

*begin transmission*
The only strange downside to the powers that be moving on from the scamdemic is how easy it was to spot faggots, cowards, and snakes. How many “fellow right wing rebels* cucked entirely, taking the mark of the beast (vax) and wearing the demonic face mask

Now theyre back to hiding more easily

Pax Imperialis says:

Cheerleader comparison goes viral. Sure, it’s cherry picking, but…

https://x.com/kangminjlee/status/1867683667763777659

We’re all getting fat and the standards have been sliding for a long time. I’ve seen whales in uniform. Really confidence inspiring when nearly every Doc/Corpsman obviously isn’t passing height and weight. Ain’t no way they’re getting taping below 40 inch waistlines. I don’t get it, are they being exempt? How are they supposed to drag my fat ass back to safety and patch me up if I get hit?

I’ve gotten fat since entering military service. Have gained ~60 pounds and nearly weight 200 now. I’m having to stop eating at the chow hall every day. Full of simple processed carbs and very little good fat and protein. Many officers in my height weight class are around 200, many are a good deal heavier. I haven’t seen anyone O4 or above with a normal waistline, they’re all protruding over the belt. The average American service member in 1945 was just under 150 pounds. I’ve read about their physical performance standards in the archived military publications from back then. They could ruck faster and longer than what we do today. They could also run faster and longer and in full kit no less.

The military claims to be a standard above civilians, but I notice civilian average is 200 pounds for men and 170 pounds for women. Sure, maybe that’s at higher BMI for same weight (supposedly), but one only need look at pictures of military men from 1980s and compare it to today to see waistlines have significantly increased.

Jim says:

I don’t think it is cherry picked. Accurately reflects cheerleaders. Asian cheerleader are cherry picked for cuteness so not representative of average women, but the American obesity epidemic is real.

Fidelis says:

Cherry picked in the sense they chose some sheboon to represent America. Blacks have long been the most obese demographic. That also looks like a college, and therefore amateur, cheerleader, versus some more professional sporting venue. A better comparison would be the show girls for an MMA fight, who are not obese. I would argue they have suffered from the tranny disease where they try and sharpen their features too much, but they arent exactly ugly. Overall the aesthetic of the asian side where they go for cuteness, which can be off putting sometime, is still better than the american side where they go for a sort of unconsciously mannish face.

Pax Imperialis says:
Rod says:

The numbers aren’t insane because it’s the pollsters who are the faggots. Anytime you have a faggot in charge of anything, they skew the data in their favor, because pedo.

Your Uncle Bob says:

Girls especially are vulnerable to redefining as LGBT when previous generations would have identified either as tomboys, or straight girls who kissed other straight girls on a dare at a party to get a guy to make a move.

They buried this in the middle, but I expected to find it: “Women are nearly twice as likely as men to identify as LGBTQ+ … Bisexuality is the most common form of LGBTQ+ identification among women…” It’s female social conformity, not committed bull-dyke lesbianism.

Likely there has been some increase in real homosex as well, due to male homos being safer propagating their disorder via child abuse. With perhaps some growth in “real” lesbianism probably coming from college lesbians no longer socially supported in growing out of it. But exact numbers suspect, as Rod says.

All that said, those numbers are indeed bad when taken as a snapshot of normie allegiance to the state religion. But I think the female numbers flip fast when we win, and the lower but more problematic male numbers get fixed with an inquiry into what gays really get up to with their adopted children. Legally, with all due process and benefit of counsel, of course.

Pax Imperialis says:

Drunk Witcher rant. Please forgive me.

I loved The Witcher 3 because of the Red Baron writing. No other recent media has written such a man in a sympathetic and understanding light. Let’s face it, if you sacrifice years of your life serving as a warrior only to come home to find your wife has cucked you, I think it reasonable that you might be a bit mad, mad enough to kill the other man and beat her. What other game allows you to side with such a man and help him through the tragedy? The fact they could write such a quest line allowed for most other aspects of the game to be high quality in it’s depiction of the human experience and spirit. This is despite the source material being progressive in nature. CDPR managed to create art that transcended the original.

Now look at Witcher 4 Ciri. Much grace and femininity has been drained from her character model and voice acting. Her face and jawline are noticeably more masculine. Everyone seems to acknowledge she looks bad with “she got older”, but then cognitive dissonance sets in and they chorus that she’s just as beautiful as the original. Right… because aging changes bone structure by making it thicker. If your measure her facial dimensions you’d find the nose remains the same length, but the head proportionally widened by over 10%. I didn’t bother with chin or jawline measurements, but it’s clear to the eye.

Hilarity sets in when the devs say, ‘the game is only a few years after the Witcher 3’. This is obviously not “aging”, it’s DEI. Then the masses chorus, cinematic trailer Geralt always looked different from in-game Geralt and that his appearance changed from Witcher 1 to Witcher 3. Are they blind to the fact Geralt’s appearance improved with the technology? If Ciri followed the same trend, she’d look even better. The masses also chorus that it’s ‘just the cinematic’ as if cinematics aren’t artistic decisions that indicate the direction the studio wishes to take the game in.

From the trailer they’ve made her a Witcher not just in spirit, but also in physical reality. She has undergone the mutations and trial of the grasses. They’ve completely butchered her character development and the lore. The masses chime, ‘oh, but lore does support this’ by citing fanfiction. Then they say ad nauseam that lore doesn’t matter, it can always be changed. True, but every change increases internal incoherence of the setting. There is also a grotesque facet of their applauding her undergoing the mutations which make her sterile. In the book she romantically road off with Sir Galahad, her womb clenching. She got her happy ending and the implied family Geralt and Yennefer never got to materially have at their sacrifice. CDPR just killed any potential for her happy ending and the masses cheer.

I’m tire of this state of affairs. Shakespeare wrote for the King, most of classical music was for the aristocracy. That’s why there was quality, it was created for the elite and not for simpering vulgar masses. Just as DEI put obese pronoun wine aunts in HR, Trump needs to put chad bros in HR after purging it.

Contaminated NEET says:

They destroyed it because you liked it.

Varna says:

Here’s a hundred Conan adventures by Russian authors https://avidreaders.ru/serie/konan/

Red Sonja adventures by the same https://avidreaders.ru/serie/ryzhaya-sonya/

King Kull adventures by the same https://avidreaders.ru/serie/car-kull/

A small percent is by western authors, the ones with the fancy covers and made up western names like Brian Douglas, Brian this, Winlow that, etc, are mostly written in the 1990s and 2000s by Russians and Ukrainians.

Download, convert to txt, upload to Chat, ask for a decent translation, specify that word choices should be in the style of Howard, and de Camp, and let thy soul have a nice rest.

https://avidreaders.ru/book/vosstavshie-iz-praha.html

“Risen from the Dust” (Red Sonja)

by Elena Khayetskaya

The moonless night hung heavy over the border city of Hadan, nestled on the fringes of Stygia. Shadows loomed like spectral sentinels, and the guards strained their eyes into the impenetrable dark. Every now and then, they scanned the treetops, their minds conjuring the phantom gleam of Darfarian spear tips or the fleeting shapes of figures blacker than the void, hailing from the savage lands of the far south.

For years now, the Black Kingdoms, Kush, and Darfar had gnawed at Stygia’s edges, their endless raids leaving a trail of ruin, fire, and slaughter. And tonight, the air carried the weight of coming violence.

“Do you hear that?” growled Nilit Trarza, commander of a hundred spears, to his lieutenant, Brakna.

Brakna, a dark-haired youth of preternatural beauty, shrugged indifferently. His long hair fell in silken waves, almost as a woman’s, framing his sharp, chiseled features and eyes as round and black as an abyss. A noble of ancient Stygian blood, Brakna’s cold detachment grated against the rough-hewn Trarza, who, though born to a fishmonger, had earned his stripes defending Hadan for fifteen grim years.

“No, Nilit,” Brakna replied smoothly, his voice like a dagger wrapped in silk.

“Keep your eyes sharp!” Trarza snarled. “These cursed blackskins could be lurking behind every stone, every branch—what in the name of Set is that?”

His thick finger jabbed toward a shadow slinking by the stone piles beneath Hadan’s battered walls. Those stones, intended for repairs, stood in silent testimony to years of assault by the southern hordes.

“Where?” Brakna squinted, his sharp gaze slicing through the dark.

“There! By the stones! I swear it—”

“Archers!” Brakna barked, his voice snapping like a whip. “Where in the Abyss are you, you drunken dogs?”

Two archers stumbled into view, reeking of wine, their movements sluggish. With contemptuous efficiency, Brakna cuffed the men across their skulls, jolting them to some semblance of alertness.

Meanwhile, the shadow that had pricked Trarza’s suspicion crept closer to the wall. Trarza’s face darkened with resolve.

“Who’s there?” he called. “Step forward! We won’t shoot!”

“Won’t you now?” came a mocking voice from behind.

Trarza spun, his sword half-drawn. The flicker of torchlight revealed a tall woman, her lithe figure cloaked in a black veil that rippled with the wind. Though dressed as a man—in embroidered breeches and a sleeveless tunic cinched with silver-buckled belts—no disguise could hide her true nature. Her hair, a torrent of molten red, cascaded over her shoulders, braided with silver threads and studded with pearls that caught the firelight.

Varna says:

A bit more soul therapy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jrm4x19bAow&list=PLCtV619TXkk7icyEOxCccHimctPKHmEvL

PATRIOT

Ghosts of Distant Peaks
Ride with relentless speed,
Your land in flames!
Prayers rise to the Eastern skies,
Men are slaughtered like beasts,
Their souls break free to claim paradise.

But we, beneath the endless sky,
Stand in defiance, asking why:
Who is friend, and who betrays,
In this eternal fight, this maze.

Each of us is a marked prey,
Shadowed or hiding, no escape today.
The hunter’s arrow finds your back,
Everything sold, loyalty cracked –
Our own betray the pack!

They burned the faith of our fathers,
Yet her shadow still haunts the pines,
A whisper in the ancient woods,
Listen to the soil – the truth aligns.

Your name is Patriot!
Who forgets his roots will fall to dust!
The fire in our hearts still blazes,
Those not with us – oppose our trust!

There’s but one path – to stand and fight,
A bullet, a blade – pierce through the night.
Cover me now!
Let the dead find peace in the ground,
Act while you’re breathing –
The drums of war resound!

Blood flows down the mountain stones,
Forget all else, embrace the unknown.
March forward – don’t look behind,
Listen to the voice of fire – let it guide!

Hesiod says:

BTW, Varna, IIRC, you recommended the novel Godsdoom this past summer which I finally got around to reading last weekend. Still mulling over the various themes of this excellent book, particularly the moral aspects. Being steeped in mythology, I found the names, especially of the races, to be very evocative visually despite there being little description in the text. Godsdoom worked my imagination like a symphonic conductor, so I award it five black swords out of five.

Varna says:

Excellent:) Very glad to hear this, Hesiod.
Here are the other, untranslated books by the same gentleman, but we live in the future, so AI can help, especially if asked to do the translation within a certain english-speaking author’s style.
https://avidreaders.ru/author/nik-perumov/2

Golovachyov, epic sci-fi, very anti-globohomo in the past decades
https://avidreaders.ru/author/golovachev-vasiliy-vasilevich/3

Nikitin’s humorous sci-fi (half the plot tends to be female shit-tests)
https://fantasy-worlds.org/series/id4913/
In this one the MC keeps ribbing his female mossad partner what a cute kike she is https://fantasy-worlds.org/lib/id25718 recommended chat translation prompt “word choices inspired by Carter Brown and Raymond Chandler ”

Nikitin’s fantasy https://fantasy-worlds.org/lib/id34713/

The most hilariously anti-globohomo book ever published, by Pelevin, who is no longer being translated into English or other European languages for some mysterious reason
https://fantasy-worlds.org/lib/id29578/

OK, enough of that. Maybe next year or the one after that, God willing, we’re all still around, I’ll have inspiration to share more.

anonymous mouse says:

If it’s coming out now then that means that it was under development during Peak Woke. So this is probably the best outcome that could have been hoped for.

Fidelis says:

Slightly off-topic but tech related.

When we win and restore real science, how do we fix fundamental physics and theory? With most other branches of science, there’s some smouldering embers remaining to rekindle. Physics seems like it’s been dead for a long time. So you cannot just promote the people that have been successful but suppressed, because there doesn’t seem to be anyone there. No one has made empirically successful advances.

Do we fund contests? Ask the people that have succeeded in things like Quantum Computing and other very advanced manufacturing who they think should be promoted? How do we find the signal when the the entire room has gone dark?

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