FBI bypassed for antiterror measures

I should not post on the news of the day, for it is best understood months, years, decades, and usually centuries after it has happened. But every day I have been predicting the uselessness of the FBI for Trump’s anti terror measures. Its command structure is full of lunatics, and Kash Patel does not look capable of addressing this problem. It is not that they are lefter than regular leftists, they are not all that far left, it is that they are even more seriously detached from reality than regular leftists.

Instead of attempting to clean out the Augean stables, Trump is bypassing the FBI with the Department of Justice and the military. And this is working. Suddenly, Antifa is being arrested, and suddenly its financiers are are being stopped. The Antifa now being arrested are going to facing real charges, and suddenly their deep pockets sponsors are going away.

Now I am shutting up about the news of the day. Back to your regular programming with less frequent but more thoughtful updates, made in the light of information less likely to change the following day.

And, in not news of the day:

18 U.S. Code § 2331 — 5

the term “domestic terrorism” means activities that—
(A)involve acts dangerous to human life that are a violation of the criminal laws of the United States or of any State;
(B)appear to be intended—
(i)to intimidate or coerce a civilian population;
(ii)to influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion;

This law has been sitting on the books being thoroughly ignored for two decades, but it allows the government to go after not just the particular individual who commits a particular crime, but the entire apparatus mobilising him, organising him, equipping him, and funding him. As, for example, Soros.

We have heard the announced intent to apply it, but Trump announces a lot of things that do not happen, or happen only after years, and then happen on a much smaller scale than promised, but, news of the day, stuff is happening right now, because the seriously deranged and thoroughly useless FBI has been bypassed. In a few months we shall be able to see where the stuff that is happening right now leads.

We shall see if Ubuntu turns its attention from sponsoring terror back to sponsoring open source software.

747 comments FBI bypassed for antiterror measures

The Cominator says:

One thing that needs to happen immediately now is Trunp must “deal with” Newsom as Newsom just tweeted “Stephen Miller is a fascist” ie an order from the inner party that tr00ns are to kill Stephen Miller.

Your Uncle Bob says:

Just to the flog the deceased equine some more. I saw the claim on social media that, of the one to two thousand members of the public who entered the Capital building on January 6th, 250 were undercover FBI, and another 250 were antifa.

Search isn’t helping me source the antifa part of the claim. Enemy media acknowledges 274 plainclothes FBI and 26 FBI confidential informants in the general crowd outside, but makes the bald assertion that they didn’t incite anything.

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/09/27/trump-january-6-fbi-00583383

Followed, as we all know, by FBI agents spending hours poring over video and soliciting family members to turn relatives in. To throw those guilty of arguably trespassing in solitary confinement without trial.

Keeping law abiding whites atomized and powerless via infiltration and entrapment of any organization is just what they do. Not an accident or an oopsie, it’s the entire point. Their raison d’etre as well as their method.

Sporadic Commenter says:

ICE under Homan is turning out to be both a second, and more loyal, military but also the lightning rod that will get the screechy shooty stabby sector of the left to raise its head high enough to be decapitated.

The Cominator says:

Mormon church suffers a shooting and apparently firebombing in Michigan. I’m not saying its a tr00n yet but its probably a tr00n.

Amri says:

Mormon Church in Michigan rammed shot-up torched… probably Troon or Islam. truck had us flagpole on it.

https://www.nbcnews.com/nbc-out/out-news/mormon-transgender-restrictions-lds-church-rcna167582
7 days before the shooting, the church restricted all transgender people from attending and called them child rapists
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russell_M._Nelson

Fish restaurant in Carolina shot-up by boater… was a white diagnosed schizoprenic with a bullet from the war stuck in his brain.

Amri says:

truck had us flagpole on it.
veteran license plates

Amri says:

23-year-old Hunter Nadeau charged with last night’s country club shooting free palestine

1 dead, 6 injured following shooting at Kickapoo Casino in Eagle Pass, Texas

Heavy police activity reported near Dallas ICE facility after reports of possible shooting

Active shooter reported at Augusta Mall in Georgia

Several police officers reportedly shot in York County, Pennsylvania

Man with long gun, multiple ammo clips arrested while searching for Attorney General’s Office in Baton Rouge

Police responding to suspicious package outside Turning Point USA HQ in Phoenix

Shooting reported at Louisiana State University’s Law Center; police responding

Hesiod says:

https://x.com/intelpointalert/status/1972343844336501142

Eyewitness mentions American flags conspicuous on the vehicle. MSNPC theorizes it must be a rightwing terror attack because LDS aren’t real Christians or some such. At the moment, it sounds like a fierier version of the troon attack on the Minneapolis Catholic school.

The Cominator says:

I’ve yet to hear any right wing christians call for a Mormon holocaust or anything (maybe some weird faggot tradcaths but they want to holocaust all non papists and I suspect they are feds or Jesuits anyway… holocausting all non papists was at least what the Jesuits originally believed) but I bet the left want to… Mormon reputation (which was generally very good) was hurt by Romney, being so pro Romney, and being so reluctant to back Trump but after the primaries they did back Trump mostly but their reputation is still pretty good and I don’t know of any right wingers who I consider good faith right wingers who would argue that America has a Mormon problem that we need to take extreme measures to solve.

As Jim I’m sure would point out, other than the Amish they are sort of the only group of white people reproducing at replacement level. Also they are more “old stock” Americans than most of America.

If the terrorist is “right wing” its almost certainly an FBI asset with the idea of trying to reopen the wedge between the Mormons and MAGA (and the Mormons have been coming around more recently).

Fidelis says:

Judging by the shill here, looks like we have a false flag operation in progress. The FBI is desperate enough to generate the right wing maga christian terrorism they’re looking for.

Amri says:

> desperate enough to generate the right wing maga christian terrorism they’re looking for.

“Desperation of the Left” could be a good sign of them losing, or a not so good sign of the entire Left transitioning to active war mode.

Also, no one is going to believe that RW/Maga/Christian has any ideology of shooting up Churches, not even Mormon ones. That’s retarded.
Nor were Breivik, Tarrant, or hardly any others were really from that space either.
Mormons did kill a bunch of people out West in the 1800’s.

Here’s a Leftopedia…

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_rampage_killers_(religious,_political,_or_ethnic_crimes)

Amri says:

550 church attacks in America since 2020

– The claim of 2 million Jewish American Christians (26.7% of the 7.5 million ethnic Jewish Americans) aligns with a 2020 Pew Research Center study showing 19% of those raised Jewish now identify as Christian, though exact numbers vary due to self-identification complexities and the additional 700,000 “Jews by affinity.” – The assertion that only 6% of non-Jewish Americans hold a biblical worldview is supported by a 2024 Barna Research Group survey, which found just 4% of Americans have a consistent biblical worldview, highlighting a significant gap in religious adherence between groups. – Recent archaeological findings, like the 1070 Jewish cemetery in London uncovered in 2025, reflect a historical pattern of Jewish diaspora integration and resilience, potentially influencing modern identity shifts toward Christianity among Jewish Americans.

As of 9/24, over a dozen U.S. troops have been suspended pending investigations into social media posts related to Charlie Kirk’s assassination. DoD branches say posts celebrating or mocking the killing violate military values and may face UCMJ action. – Military Times

https://www.csis.org/analysis/left-wing-terrorism-and-political-violence-united-states-what-data-tells-us

undetonated one way attack drone reportedly found on the streets of a small town in Mexico. Implied connection to cartels. The use of such munitions by militias and criminal groups is on the rise globally.

Mossadnik says:

The fact of the matter is, Judaism sucks. It really does. It has some healthy elements, but come on, it’s not a religion on which you can build a thriving civilization. Now, the Religious Zionists (or Datiim) are relatively functional, but this serves to emphasize my often repeated claim that Zionism itself is spiritually more Christian than Jewish, hence its pro-civilizational vigor. The non-Zionist Ultra-Orthodox (Haredim), while very fertile, are absolutely not civilizationally viable. Well, anyway, I’m glad that other kikes out there are figuring out that Christianity is an objectively superior path.

Amri says:

> Judaism sucks

If so, then why are you still a Jew?
Why still living in / affiliated with Israel / Jews?
Are you the Jewish Thermidor?
Bringing Jews to Agnosticism/Atheism/Christ?

Amri says:

Witness… Church looks like another war vet that cracked
https://x.com/IntelPointAlert/status/1972379992907759912

Fidelis says:

Hey FBI. Everyone involved in this false flag and mass lying campaign is going to be tried under a military tribunal. Hope it was worth it!

The Cominator says:

Supposedly he was shouting “free Palestine”. May have been a vet, maybe not a tr00n, but definitely a leftist.

Curious as to why the target was a Mormon church…

Hesiod says:

NY Post claims he’s a Marine vet and family man. Curiouser and curiouser.

Amri says:

Vets – Thomas Sanford, Nigel Max Edge

> Supposedly he was shouting “free Palestine”.

Clip?

> May have been a vet, maybe not a tr00n, but definitely a leftist.

Vets can be Leftists, plenty of recent examples.
First USA flag in truckbed could be neutral to that.
So what was the second flag in the truckbed?

Trump quietly signed NSPM-7, a sweeping national security directive labeling “anti-American,” “anti-capitalist,” and “anti-Christian” views as signs of extremism. It arms 4,000 federal agents with a pre-crime mandate – Ken Klippenstein reports

https://x.com/FaytuksNetwork/status/1972405054453043304
Vance says the U.S. is looking to provision Tomahawks to Ukraine through European purchases of the long range munition.

Amri says:

Almost the entire problem (which Mormons just rightly banned)…
https://x.com/TaraBull808/status/1971922781844476355
One of the many results of these problems…
https://x.com/libsoftiktok/status/1971629455857811742

States Sue HHS Over Order To Remove ‘Gender Identity’ In K-12 Sex Education

FBI had 274+ undercover agents at J6, Wray and everybody else lied, Pelosi admitted on tape it was also her fault.

Everything from the Left is fake, gay, “demonic”, manufactured, not real. The Left does not operate from Truth.

Neville Roy Singham, US $B, ties to CCP, PSL says “Free Roberts”
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/democrats-rage-after-ice-arrests-iowas-top-school-superintendent
He’s an illegal making $300,000+ per year paid for by taxpayers
Preprinted signs are always proof you’re not looking at an organic protest.

Mormonism… Nobody I know has a problem with them, other than they don’t like the door to door knocking proselytizing, but are generally ok with them converting the non-Christians in their neighborhood. LDS seems more a debate level thing… if Mormons could answer all the “Mormon debunked” videos on youtube they might have a bit more win there.
Mormons and Amish are the most based religions in the USA, and unlike Islam they aren’t commanded to slaughter you, so who is really going to have a problem with that.

Twitter…
https://x.com/BornLik23266/status/1790333449527501122
Varg Vikernes aka ThuleanPerspective announced he would rather if European men bred with European women who had sex with Black men than for European men to breed with Latinas. Varg is influential in the neo-pagan wing of the alt-right.
“Any sane European would marry even a leftist feminist worn-out European slut over his “Latino”. You can fix what is broken. If you have children that “do not even look like you”, there is nothing left to fix.”
https://x.com/GigaBasedDad/status/1789807518966759757
Based Wife

Adams quits, Mamdani going to win with Hoschul who is handing out free stimmy checks this month, NY going to get fucked hard… people of NY will convert Right and spank them for the collapse.

Andy was savagely beaten by Antifa
https://x.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1970941977559736502
https://www.ngocomment.com/p/two-more-arrested-in-north-texas
In July, members of a North Texas Antifa/John Brown Gun Club group allegedly shot up an ICE facility in Alvarado in an ambush. They had a cache of weapons & armor. One cop was shot in the neck. They gathered at a Dallas trans compound before the attack.

Christian ejected from council meeting for valid complaint, Muslim Mayor tells him his kind is not welcome in the city.

Point is, people think these battles are ending now with Trump’s election, I think the transition to war is just beginning… no side is backing down, lines are drawing, sides being chosen, no middle positions, actions accelerating. Be prepared for anything.

Have a nice day.

Amri says:

Last examples below…

Mearsheimer on Ukraine
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4

Netanyahu has been telling others that “I control the United States.” Caught on at least two recent video clips talking about Israel’s influence and plans re the USA. Hundreds of USA Congress and State Legislators flown in on “vacation/tour visits” to “Learn more about Israel” in 2025 alone.

Brokeass Leftists such as AOC now magically worth $Tens of $Millions of $Dollars.

Walsh bravely fighting two front war, Leftism/Troonism, and Islam…
https://x.com/MattWalshBlog/status/1971561248555708532
The mayor of Dearborn, Michigan is Abdullah Hammoud. The guy running against him in the mayoral race is Nagi Almudhegi. The mayor’s chief of staff is Zaineb A. Hussein. The police chief is Issa Shahin. He oversees the commander of the patrol division, Madou Bazzi. The public health director is Ali Abazeed. Don’t forget city council members Kamal Alsawafy and Mustapha Hammoud. Question: is this what our Founding Fathers had in mind? That’s a question that the residents of Dearborn can consider as they awake at 530 AM to the Muslim call to prayer blasted over the loudspeakers by the local mosque. They can keep thinking about it as they get in their cars and drive to work down Osama Siblani Street. Is this America? If the entire country resembles Dearborn in 50 years, in what sense will America still exist?
https://x.com/MattWalshBlog/status/1971575737665892498
The Founders wanted unity and peace among all of the various Christian denominations. Islam wasn’t anywhere on their radar screen. There were basically zero Muslims in America when the Bill of Rights was written. It didn’t factor into their calculations at all.
https://x.com/MattWalshBlog/status/1971589501605630329
Lots of morons in the comments insisting that the Founders did know what Islam was. Yes, obviously. Jefferson fought a war against Muslims. I didn’t say that the Founders were unaware of Islam’s existence. I said that it didn’t factor into their “freedom of religion” calculation at all. The possibility of millions of Muslims living in this country was not anywhere in their minds. It would have been inconceivable at the time.

https://x.com/MattWalshBlog/status/1971545323249238181
The situation in Dearborn is completely insane. The more you look into it, the crazier it gets. It’s even worse than Little Mogadishu in Minnesota. They’re really building an Islamic capital right in the middle of the American heartland. And nobody is doing anything to stop it.
“Dearborn mosques blast call to prayer at 5 am on loudspeakers in the street, which is against city regulations” City council shrugs her off

https://x.com/MattWalshBlog/status/1972328757206880727
Dearborn Michigan Chief of Police speaks in Arab “Hamdullah. Hamdullah,” All praise is due to Allah He proudly talks of replacing the American Dearborn police force with Arabs. The police force went from 3% Arabs to now 45% Arabs/ Muslims This is what being conquered looks like.

Mossadnik says:

Netanyahu has been telling others that “I control the United States.”

This is a Retard Test, which you failed.

Imagine reading this and thinking, “Yeah, that makes sense. Of course he would say that.”

Alas, the Online Right has undergone heavy Third-Worldification. Case in point is Raj/Rod here, who simply can’t tell between real and fake news.

(And if you happened to have automatically believed this headline, check your reality testing and spend less time around Pakistanis who pretend to be Americans.)

Amri says:

> Netanyahu

I don’t have the clips handy, will try to dig them up if you’re unfamiliar with them.

Are you suggesting to deny existance operation influence of Netanyahu’s words, AIPAC, trips to Israel?

Are you suggesting that all of any given Civilization’s externals are not all operating and influencing both that Civ, and each other?

Maybe someday, but not likely at all.

> Pakistanis who pretend to be Americans

Haven’t seen any, though there are Pak’s Raj’s Rod’s and whatever else you mention in America, they wave their US Passports around and try to tell you “I’m an American”, when they only hang out with their own kind, own language, own kids, own cities, and refuse to integrate.

Bottom line… all of them are in the USA because of weak White Politicians in Congress… here for economic reasons (whether free-shit, and/or their own honest earnings), more “Freedom”, less 3rd-world, and in the case of Islam, to also literally conquer and wipe you out.

Real line… the USA never did, does not, and will not ever need any of them, nor their children, ever, as permanent citizens or residents.

If you need specific talent, import and hire it, but not under permanent papers.

There is no such thing as “Birthright” Citizenship. Even the Religions make you convert and integrate before giving you anything real.

Allowing non-integretors and Anti’s… this is patently suicidal to your own Nation/Culture/Civ/Faith/Tribe etc. Don’t do it. You don’t need it. Ever.

Mossadnik says:

I don’t have the clips handy, will try to dig them up if you’re unfamiliar with them.

There are no such clips.

You posted fake news.

Amri says:

Is Netanyahu on FOX real news, or fake news?
https://x.com/zhao_dashuai/status/1972343076825039119

Are any of the vids, and references to other vids, findable from the above link real, or fake?

Why is the US involving itself so much with Israel, when for about 1950 years (or about 80 years if you prefer) they didn’t care too much one way or the other?

Are you suggesting that, in regards to all externalities in general, the US should…
a) disentangle itself, or
b) dig in deeper

Which externalites, if any, should be treated differently than that general blanket, and why?

Will post the two when I find them, have stuff to do IRL for now.

Mossadnik says:

The link you posted does not contain any clips in which Netanyahu says “I control the United States.”

Why are you posting fake news on Jim’s blog?

DaHorge says:

Both you and Jim are some combination of underinformed, misinformed, malinformed.
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Jim says:

You link to yet another discussion that no one should waste time caring about or thinking about at this moment.

I don’t care about unpleasant people killing each other in the Middle East, provided American blood is not added to those bloodstained sands.

If the threat of civil war is quelled in the US, then I will start worrying about World War III again. Middle East is a long way down the list.

Trump and Maga have to hurt leftists and the left severely enough that they are persuaded to stop killing us and start talking to us. After that, then will be time to think about a realistic deal with Russia. Thermidor is still offering Russia defeat on the instalment plan, conquest by the Global American Empire, and return to the 1990s all over again. A deal Russia is unlikely to accept. Since Thermidor is running out of Ukrainians, and the Poles are starting to balk at being added to the cannon fodder, the Global American Empire in Exile is now trying to add the Moldovans. But, with luck, the nukes may only be flying over the lands, rather than the oceans.

Jim says:

> Mearsheimer on Ukraine
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4
>
> Netanyahu has been telling others that “I control the United States.”

On moderation for spreading lies.

Mossadnik says:

The funny thing is that I initially gave him the benefit of the doubt and assumed that as part of his regular link-spamfest he accidentally posted this shill bullshit, since he appears to be brown and low-IQ and inattentive. But his responses after being called out, in which he attempts to change the subject and keeps promising what he can’t deliver, tell me that this is intentional. There is some kind of shilling operation active on your blog. A normal person would say, “My mistake, it’s indeed a fake news item, I apologize for posting it.” But this is not a normal person; his employers (whoever they are) gave him all these links and told him to spam them.

And he writes like a street-shitting poo-in-loo jeet.

Jim says:

Amri, and others, have been attempting to post link fests, some of those links pointing to people who are well respected on the right and post good content, some of which appear to be links to notorious enemy shills. However before each link, he makes a claim, so that one would expect that this well respected figure has made this claim, or posted content supporting that claim. Checked out one of them, link unrelated to claim, concluded Amri was trying to QAnon the right, by attributing falsehoods to figures well respected for truth, and mingling shills posting nutty nonsense with figures well respected for truth.

It appears that the claim that Netanyahu said “I control the United States.” was one more piece of squid ink intended to muddy the waters, among a vast deluge of squid ink, sprayed in every direction except the terror campaign now unfolding, every direction except the murder of Charlie Kirk, the murder of Iryna Zarutska, and the attacks on ICE.

yewotm8 says:

The claim that Netanyahu says he controls the US is corroborated by Tucker. It may have publicly started with him; I didn’t hear it before a few days ago when this clip was posted:

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/bANyo1XecgU

It does seem like the kind of thing you’d say to the leader of a nearby country to get a stronger negotiating position, regardless of veracity.

Mossadnik says:

The claim that Netanyahu says he controls the US is corroborated by Tucker.

Is Tucker present (in any capacity) in meetings between Netanyahu and Arab leaders? Does he have his own sources in “the region” who are uniquely privy to Netanyahu’s private conversations? This clip is just him talking to the camera, making baseless assertions, and pretending to be urrrgh very angry.

President Trump was 100% right about him.

Mossadnik says:

I’m willing to die on this hill.

Netanyahu has never, ever, in any way, shape, or form, directly or indirectly, in word or in deed or in hint or in gesture, absolutely never ever said (to anyone) “I control the United States” or anything remotely resembling that, similar to that, or that rhymes with that. I encourage anyone who thinks otherwise to prove that he did ever say such a thing.

Please, I’m waiting.

Alf says:

Yes did not expect Tucker to say that with such certainty.

Bibi kind of won me over with that Nelk Boys interview. Yes there was the ‘US is our greatest ally’ bit, though he sounded to me much more like a man pleading for the assistance to keep coming than a puppet master pulling strings.

What concerned me more was his emphasis on the ‘shared values’ of the US and Israel, those shared values supposedly being feminism and homosexuality. Typical boomer talk.

But what impressed me was the clearness in how he spoke. Very unlike most politicians. Yes, he probably rehearsed every line of his ‘special commando hostage’ story. Don’t care, still an impressive story.

Mossadnik says:

Yes did not expect Tucker to say that with such certainty.

I’m not kidding.

I’ll stake my entire (non-existent) online reputation that Tucker is just brazenly unabashedly lying here, lying through his teeth, lying as he breathes, and that no one will ever find any proof, or evidence, or indication, that Netanyahu has ever, under any circumstances, said to anyone “I control the United States.”

Tucker is a liar and yes, it pisses me off, because I’ve been waiting for indication that he isn’t a kook (as Trump correctly diagnosed him), since he is very talented, but alas he is a kook and a very dangerous one, because quite gifted.

Kenneth says:

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Daddy Scarebucks says:

One can’t help but notice that as the real-world violence ramps up, so does the online shilling, in both frequency and intensity.

The more shit hits the fan, the more feverishly committed they are to direct our attention to anywhere but the fan and the shit splatters.

Are they all straight from Central Casting, I wonder, or do some of them do it compulsively, as cope?

Jim says:

> Are they all straight from Central Casting, I wonder, or do some of them do it compulsively, as cope?

They are all straight from central casting. “Hey, look, a squirrel”.

We should not worry about Trantifa murdering our guys, nor the FBI being in bed with Trantifa metaphorically and literally. Look at the squirrel.

Garrison says:

Why does Jim, a self-proclaimed supposed Christian, consistantly fail to speak out against the slaughter of Christians?
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Jim says:

A while ago, a whole of Churches were burned down by leftists in the USA. Have Jews in Israel been burning down churches?

Just recently there were a couple of terror attacks on congregations in the USA by leftists. Have Jews in Israel been engaging in terror attacks against congregations?

I am not going to look at your squirrel.

Jews in Israel are doing what Jews always do — finding creative and ingenious interpretations of the law so that the property of Christians belongs to Jews. This sort of stuff is irritating and upsetting, but it is not “slaughter”. We have bigger fish to fry much closer to home. Here, we have actual slaughter. Jews are slaughtering Muslims, but they have excuses and I don’t care. And the Muslims also have excuses for slaughtering Jews. It is complicated, boring, and not my business. We have more important business closer to home.

Plus, the only reason you are giving us the JooJooJoo rant is you thought it might sell better than the IslamIslamIslam rant. Chances are that you yourself are a gay Jewish demon worshipper — there is a lot of JooJooJoo stuff coming from Soros employees.

You will have better luck with the niggerniggernigger rant. Except that if you gave us the niggerniggernigger rant, that might draw attention to the fact that Decarlos Brown was a bipedal bioweapon wielded by white leftists and you don’t want people looking at that.

Mossadnik says:

The funny thing is that I’m in friendly relations with some Middle-Eastern Christians; among the young generation they are (by and large) pro-Israel and “philosemitic.” You’ll never hear this from the shills.

Mossadnik says:

(Of course, I think the way Ehud Barak treated the South Lebanese Army was a disgrace. Well, Ehud Barak is about one of the most hated Jews among Real Israelis; he is the one coordinating the coup against Bibi.)

Mossadnik says:

(You can’t blame Likudniks for the misbehavior of Ehud Barak any more than you can blame MAGA Republicans for the misbehavior of Clinton and Obama. When I complain about Jewish Leftists, that’s what I’m about.)

Mossadnik says:

By the way, on the (boring, irrelevant, uninteresting) subject of Israeli current affairs, my position on the Gaza Deal now proposed is that the only thing that actually matters is that the Gazans are evacuated elsewhere, “temporarily,” like Indonesia or South Sudan or something. (No, not Europe/America; the D&C shills can relax.) Getting the Gazans out in significant numbers will be indispensable anyway while the Strip undergoes reconstruction. I expect Bibi to accept Trump’s currently proposed Deal, possibly with a few minor reservations, and Hamas to completely reject it as per usual; but again, that doesn’t really matter in the grand scheme of things – Gaza needs to be emptied of Gazans, and likely it will be, Deal or no Deal.

Hesiod says:

There’s a coordinated shill effort underway over on The Donald patriots.win site to poison perception against Netanyahu, making a plethora of accusations of the most wicked sort, yet always failing to provide any actual evidence. Not even a screencap of Netanyahu twirling an evil mustache. Amidst this are posts offering old ADL and SPLC hate group designations as if they were put in place yesterday.

Then I saw a few minutes ago Trump is hosting Netanyahu at the White House today, and the sudden outbreak of j00j00j00 makes more sense.

Mossadnik says:

In the event of a hot American civil/holy war, Netanyahu will absolutely side with the Right, while Macron and Starmer (as representatives of GAE-in-Exile) will absolutely side with the Left.

So of course the shills suffer from Netanyahu Derangement Syndrome. It’s all so obvious. Hey, I myself am quite receptive to criticism made against AIPAC and all that; but the shills are obviously not interested in any constructive discussion of American-Israeli relations, it’s just more of the usual “Bibi is falling, falling, falling, has fallen” and endless barrages of ridiculous and malicious lies.

To the shills’ chagrin, I believe Trump and Bibi are 100% coordinated behind the scenes, any “disputes” being wholly theatrical.

Hesiod says:

The best I can get for evidence of dastardly deeds is a recent video that looks a bit clipped between a young lady asking Netanyahu about the loss of Christian Evangelical support for Israel and Netanyahu replying “you ask about the Woke Right? I call them the Woke Reich.”

“Woke Reich” as an epithet for the fake Fuentes feds seems rather tame, so not seeing much of a problem here with the rhetoric.

Mossadnik says:

I have to say, though, that Netanyahu should never have embraced the term “woke right.” It is never applied in a way that tells you what the person accused of being “woke right” actually believes or why he is wrong to believe it. Then again, expecting 75-year-old Bibi to address groypers as groypers is a bit much, so I guess “woke reich” has its uses.

Jim says:

The term “woke right” is in fact accurate, since woke people care deeply about strangers far away and very different from themselves in order to justify harming those close to them and similar to themselves. It seems obvious that those blithering about mistreatment of Christians in Israel are not Christians and intend to eradicate their Christian neighbours in America.

I have complained to you about mistreatment of Christians in Israel, complained that Jews are very bad at ruling non Jews, and suggested that it would be a lot easier to live in peace with those of your neighbors who are less deranged if Israel treated its more peaceful minorities better. Being a peaceful well behaved minority in Israel does not seem very beneficial to the peaceful well behaved minority. But that is your problem and your sins. We have a sufficient of our own problems and our own sins.

The JooJooJoo brigade attribute this bad behavior to the Jewish right. I know nothing of who is to blame, you say the left, which I find plausible because the left in practice prefers to ally with dangerous and violent far in order to harm near, hence their affection for trannies and Mohammedans, for the left allies with far against near in order to commit violence against near, as Marians allied with the Samnites against normie Romans, despite, or rather because of, the loudly and frequently declared intent of the Samnites to level the walls of Rome and kill every Roman male. The left is allying with Hamas. Hamas hates Jews, but is none too keen on the Christian Palestinians either, hence would likely be considerably worse for them than the Jews. The left is slightly perturbed about the Hamas attitude to gays, but is enthused by their attitude to Jews and Christians. What the left and the groypers loves most of all, of course, is the Hamas attitude to America and normie Americans.

Israel is an alarmingly unsatisfactory ally, bribing politicans and applying media influence to drag us into far away wars that are none of our business, but Israel is an ally and Hamas is an enemy and would continue to be an enemy even if every Jew in the Middle East was eradicated.

It is rational for Hamas to suppress gays, because if gay sexuality is permitted to be visible, gays will disrupt cooperation between men and women in reproduction, and Hamas plans a war continuing generation after generation. Gays will promote their own mating behavior to straights, supporting male defection against women and female defection against males “You go girl”, and women do not need much encouragement to defect against males, this being a perversion and failure mode of their natural shit test behavior, plus women are omnisexual, and you need a society that channels their sexuality into healthy channels. Women have not had sexual choice in the ancestral environment, so have not been under selection to make sound sexual choice, so are easily blown into self destructive channels by the winds of their social environment. We see in social media behavior likely to prevent marriage and break up existing marriages being promoted to women. We see a whole lot of advice promoted to women which seems likely to destroy their relationships with husbands and lovers. Hamas wisely applies a firm hand to that.

Sulla crushed the Samnites with the necessary brutality, and assimilated the survivors, latinising them to the official Roman faith and Roman gods, by converging their faith. A similar solution is needed for Hamas. Globohomo intends to converge Islam to liberal progressivism and is having considerable success, but Hamas is not buying that, and I do not consider liberal progressivism an improvement, because its hostility to family and reproduction will end us. I want to see Hamas ended, but I do not wish the Palestinians converged to liberal progressive post Mohammedanism. Mohammedanism is an enemy, but liberal progressivism a closer and far more deadly enemy.

Mossadnik says:

Your critique is perfectly valid and reasonable.

Hamas is an enemy and would continue to be an enemy even if every Jew in the Middle East was eradicated.

Indeed.

Jews like to endlessly complain about “antisemitism,” but it is exactly the wrong angle when discussing Hamas. Hamas are old-type Mohammedans, and would wage Jihad against Israel even if it weren’t Jewish whatsoever, but were Christian, or Buddhist, or Hindu, or anything that isn’t authentically Islamic.

Israel should not complain about Hamas being “antisemitic”; it’s not the correct complaint here. Hamas is the Palestinian branch of the Muslim Brotherhood, which seeks world-domination for Islam by any and all means. It opposes Israel not so much because it hates Jews as Jews, but because Hamas (very correctly!) identifies Israel as an obstacle to achieving the Muslim Brotherhood’s ultimate goal, and would identify it as such even if it weren’t Jewish at all, but were Christian/Buddhist/Hindu/etc.

All the Christians (and of course Druze) I know understand that, and they are quite glad that October 7 failed to annihilate the state. They do not want to live as dhimmis under a Caliphate.

The Cominator says:

Okay apparently the “free palestine” was a different shooter. This one was apparently a “Trump supporter” who “hated Mormons” and apparently it was on the same day the Mormon “prophet” died. Looks like some MK-Ultra glownigger shit to me to drive Mormons (who among other things are influential in some parts of the federal government and probably the least shitlibby constinuency among them) away from MAGA but hard to prove that. Like I’ve said I’ve never heard people on the far right express anything like genocidal hatred of Mormons (Blacks, Jews, used to be spics but they have a generally better image on the right then they used to have and Indians sure) so I have a hard time believing its not an op. Perhaps its to try to influence the “prophet” election so they can get some ultra leftist Trump hater installed.

The Cominator says:

Scratch the Mormon prophet election angle, apparently when the incumbent Mormon “prophet” dies it goes strictly by seniority among the Quorom of Twelve.

Blafrican Cooze Hound says:

Hello. I would like to comment here.

[*Follow the instructions in the the moderation policy*]

Hesiod says:

UNC has placed on administrative leave professor Dwayne Dixon for his involvement with Redneck Revolt, an Antifa offshoot. The name seemed familiar, so I did some digging to find Dixon was the professor who bragged on video about brandishing his firearm at James Fields during the Charlottesville Unite the Right farce. Fields’ defense actually brought this up during the trial only to have the prosecution argue cellphone location placing Dixon there was highly unreliable. The defense replied, “oh ok” and that was that.

Still need those tanks in Harvard and many other campuses, but this is still an interesting development.

Hesiod says:

Well, that didn’t last long as Dwayne Dixon is back in the classroom. UNC “found no basis to conclude that he poses a threat to University students, staff and faculty, or has engaged in conduct that violates University policy.”

Tanks in Chapel Hill.

Hesiod says:

No more identity months, DEI offices, dudes in dress. No more climate change worship. No more division, distraction, or gender delusions. No more debris. As I’ve said before and will say again, we are done with shit.
-Hegseth

https://patriots.win/p/1AR0ixY7Qm/sec-of-war-pete-hegseth-no-more-/c

Mossadnik says:

Patriot.

Hesiod says:

Alas, I made a couple of errors in transcription, but the spirit is there. Trump’s later “if they spit, we hit” policy announcement also pleased.

Contaminated NEET says:

Big words. But that shit isn’t done with us, and it’s not done with you, Petey. The Progs are dug in deep in every American agency and every company, and they’re taking notes; anyone dumb enough to believe this is going to be drawn and quartered in a couple years. Trump and Co. do not have what it takes to purge the enemy.

The Cominator says:

Well in the latest news the left is now openly discussing that Yarvin exists but they pretend he is just some schizo and its clear they still won’t read his work or openly acknowledging doing so.

dave says:

I dont think anyone here or there is in unaware of how messy this is going to get. Churchills quote comes to mind. “”… this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning”

yewotm8 says:

“I’m going to be meeting with generals and with admirals and with leaders, and if I don’t like somebody, I’m going to fire ’em right on the spot.”

https://x.com/RapidResponse47/status/1973011313841541375

Sounds like the military is being purged. Do you expect the left to last long if they have zero control, memetic or otherwise, over the military, and the only violence they can engage in is an insurgency in the US mainland?

dave says:

Dont kid yourself. Bolsheviks had no power in 1915.

Fidelis says:

Unless Don figures out he needs to fortify the elections himself, they’ll just hire a million tranny generals all over again in 2028.

Jim says:

Why bring all generals to one location all at once, when Zoom exists?

To hold the conversation while their loyalists are far away, and Trump’s loyalists are close at hand.

Someone knows what time it is.

Bix Nudelmann says:

Simply firing the trannies and fatties from military leadership IS a political purge. We’ve been over this. It’s an inquisition in and of itself.

A bit of a Monte Carlo stochastic approach, but a pretty tight one, and if a tubby ourguy or two gets retired, oh well. At least we’re not torturing anybody.

Pax Imperialis says:

>Someone knows what time it is.

Trump Tells Military Brass US Faces ‘Invasion From Within’

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/QE-q4Q4zkCg

Jim says:

> anyone dumb enough to believe this is going to be drawn and quartered in a couple years.

You suffer from normality bias. If the left ever returns to power, they are going to kill everyone, including each other. The Thermidoreans are in substantial part former leftists who could smell that in the wind.

The FBI leadership is full of deranged perverts who need to be removed from society. But the FBI rank and file are pretty good. Pet Hegseth has the NCOs of the tip of the spear, and when everything falls apart, it is the NCOs who get to decide who is the government. ICE is rapidly becoming the largest cop organisation, and it is goodguys from top to bottom.

Bill Maher, who is deep inside the normie left, predicted that if the left do not return to normality, the right is never going to give up power, regardless of election results. We are now on the other bank of the Rubicon, and there are some in the Trump cabinet who know it. Some on the left, Bill Maher, know it also.

ICE is rapidly being expanded to a major military organisation, and its leadership is on our side from top to bottom

We have the coercive capability to stop the left. We have a preference cascade running among Havel’s Greengrocer. And we have a big military conference with ourguy leading it. What we are seeing is MAGA nailing down the instruments of coercion.

You are correct that it is not over. It is not even begun. But we are seeing the end of the beginning.

Bix Nudelmann says:

If Trump finds the FBI unredeemable, at least not quickly, then maybe putting a Jeet in charge and generally monkey-wrenching the place is actually the best thing he could do.

Jim says:

> Trump and Co. do not have what it takes to purge the enemy.

I am troubled by the fact that most of the FBI leadership is still allowed to wander around loose as if they were normal people, but we clearly have one man in the MAGA cabinet who does have what it takes to purge the enemy: The Secretary of War. And when push comes to shove, that is the only one we need.

Neurotoxin says:

“No more identity months”

If we win, we need to outlaw the word “community” except in a narrowly literal sense. You will be able to say, “I live in a nice pleasant community with lots of bookstores.” But if you say “The gay community thinks…” or the black community feels…” you should receive the death penalty.

We need to not only eliminate the genocidal death cult that has come to be called “identity politics,” we need to grind the bad guys’ faces into the fact that it has been eliminated.

It’s not enough to destroy their cult. We must take steps that they will find absolutely shocking in destroying it.

Your Uncle Bob says:

The headlines and quotes I’ve read didn’t do justice to the dog whistles in the speech. Hegseth quoting Jesus (and more importantly, attributing the quote), mentioning “our monthly Christian Pentagon prayer service,” and later namechecking “the laws of nature and nature’s God.” Calling “diversity is our strength” an “insane fallacy.” “Personnel is policy.”

And while formally endorsing women in service, rolling physical standards back specifically to before they were changed to allow women into combat roles and letting the chips fall where they may. And renouncing racial quotas and promotions, in favor of colorblind, merit based promotions. Momentum is all in the right direction, even while paying lip service to the old proprieties.

As always with a Trump administration, remains to be seen whether they can make it all stick. But separate from that, laying down some very firm markers that will be understood by the other side. Hegseth now might need to win or die even more than Trump.

ToBo says:

Heg-Trump takeaway

They’re very pissed at some other internal festering, some major unspoken problem, and it isn’t just DEI/faggots/obesity/women (which was the whole initial problem, but has since metastasized into other bigger problems of their own).

You don’t call a meeting like this and bore/threaten/browbeat the brass. It this was a PT standards thing, they would have pushed it via normal paths.

There is Left-wing political insubordination in the ranks, fatcat general fiefdoms around the world, and a lot of corrupt contractor kickback.
This was basically a loyalty test.

From there the budget, PT, and war winning will be addressed.

Expect much resignation, much wailing.
From a bunch of SocCom ex-Brass on TV.

Who they don’t talk about in detail, hints at what they’re very afraid of… China.
And getting into multiple conflicts at once.
Counting the one at home.

Also, there should be no fucking skirts in heels parading themselves around a base. [*deleted for not conforming to the moderation policy*]

Jim says:

I don’t think you are a shill, but please conform to the moderation policy so that I can be sure.

ToBo says:

Not going to be shillpasta anything, and damn sure not for someone who truncated my bit about women instead of acknowledging my position, and articulating how their position is different from mine.

I said Women shouldn’t be on base unless they’re Trad, it’s Family Day, and they’re bringing their Man sammiches and apples in a paper sack picnic basket. And that this little Whorelet shouldn’t be sashaying her ass across the tarmac, certainly not independently without any sign of Male escort/release/permission/supervision. Who is this woman anyways, sure as fuck isn’t Nuland or any of those Troons Biden’s gang put in…
https://x.com/disclosetv/status/1973013292315718041

Not gonna be talking with anybody that has a problem with that.

Jim says:

I don’t disagree with your position.

Neither do I allow people who have not passed the shill test to post links.

But your position on woman and the military is a little weak.

A key weakness with all militaries after women’s liberation, including the Hitler’s military, is reproductive opportunity for the grunts. Why should the rank and file fight, if victory does not secure reproductive opportunity? Hitler needed to secure the soldier’s women while their menfolk were away at the front, and failed to do so.

Hitler’s military issued a big report that this was a huge problem, that the soldiers were getting “Dear John” letters, and this was destroying morale and willingness to fight. The Nazis were enraged. Not enraged that it was a huge problem, but enraged that the military were complaining about it.

If you are going to fight a war, every soldier needs to know he has a woman to come home to, and that woman is not going to be allowed to get up to anything. If conscripting men, need to conscript wombs and pussies.

What you said was fine. No one gets censored for what they say. even if I disagree, even if I find it offensive. They get silenced for what they are strangely unable to say.

I agreed with what you said, and just repeated. It is your silence that is the problem.

What you said is good. But I am going to silence you if you are unable to say that which is not permitted to be said.

The Cominator says:

If you’re talking about the ai video of the spangler report to Himmler I loved the content but then I couldn’t find any corraborating source.

ray says:

> No one gets censored for what they say. even if I disagree, even if I find it offensive. They get silenced for what they are strangely unable to say.

LOL. You are such a liar, Jimianity. Smart. But a devious dweeb who thinks he is beyond self-criticism.

Jim says:

> > No one gets censored for what they say. even if I disagree, even if I find it offensive. They get silenced for what they are strangely unable to say.

> LOL. You are such a liar,

When have you been censored except for the reasons given in the moderation policy?

If I am such a liar, what have you been stopped from saying?

You disagree with me and others on just about everything this blog is about, but get allowed through because your disagreement accurately represents what you are disagreeing with, for the most part

You have sixty or so previous comments on this blog attacking game and supporting blue pilled post Christianity. Supposedly it is the will of God that women stay in line, but contrary to the will of God that men keep them in line.

And in that stream of demon posting, you have always claimed to be a fellow Christian, yet never given us the affirmation:

I affirm that Christ is King, born in Bethlehem, died at Jerusalem, and is, is from before the beginning of the world. Through him all things were created. Fully God and fully man. God is three and God is one

Can you affirm that, or would you catch on fire if you tried it?

I have lots of excuses under the moderation policy for banning you, notably posting as a Christian while not giving us the affirmation and sounding suspiciously post Christian, but have not utilised them, because you do not go out of your way to grossly misrepresent the thing you are disagreeing with or the position of the right on these matters. Unlike Anonymous fake, who can never notice that the right believes anything other than the positions that bubble attributes to us.

gina haspel says:

[*deleted for not conforming to the moderation policy*]
even randoms roll up post a link and say absolutely nothing other than posting the link
[*deleted for not conforming to the moderation policy*]

Jim says:

It is completely obvious that a single fake right organisation, or a quite small number of fake right organisations, composed of trannies, fatties, demon worshippers, gay Jews, childless women, and mutant freaks, is posting thousands of fake right articles under thousands of identities to thousands of sites on the internet and thousands of X accounts, and then shilling thousands of links to those sites onto thousands of blogs, my blog among them, in an effort to drown out the actual right with the imaginary right that radical leftists inside the bubble have invented.

You guys are doing this on an industrial scale, and you cannot do this on an industrial scale without it being completely obvious to everyone what you are doing and why you are doing it.

If you were allowed to know your enemy, you would have more success.

So if a random unknown posts a link, he automatically goes into the spam bucket, because there is an overwhelming likelihood that is it is just the heckler’s veto, trying to drown out the enemy with meaningless noise.

ray says:

You lie again. I did the whole Jimiam Affirmation before, but you still made up some reason to ‘moderate’ me. A bunch of self-referential babble. Fuck you and fuck your moderation.

The idea of a dweeby prick like you calling me a demon poster is a matter I will leave to heaven for disposition. You are a very foolish person and you assume, wrongly, that everybody else is like you (powerless and friendless where it matters).

You lie again, as I agree with 95 percent of what’s written here. What I don’t like is YOU, Jim, get that? and your stoopid, has-been game liturgy. Fuck your game liturgy and your Everything’s a Shit test. Facile bullshit.

Here is your demand, met a second time. If you weren’t too lazy or scared, you’d find The Affirmations I made long ago. As if I owed a punk like you anything.

‘I affirm that Christ is King, born in Bethlehem, died at Jerusalem, and is, is from before the beginning of the world. Through him all things were created. Fully God and fully man. God is three and God is on’

Christ is way too good for the likes of you, Lord Jimianity. He has to stoop WAY down to see your bitch mug.

Now fuck off and the same goes for your groveling blog.

Jim says:

> You lie again. I did the whole Jimiam Affirmation before, but you still made up some reason to ‘moderate’ me

And yet this comment just appeared without moderation.

When I complained about what you would not say, you went on moderation. Then you said it, and you got off moderation, and you have remained off moderation.

You go on moderation for stated and legitimate reasons, and get removed from moderation when you improve. And at the moment, you are not on moderation, which you should have realised when you posted, and the website did not tell you your comment was awaiting moderation, and you then saw the comment appear as part of the comment stream.

When I moderate someone, I am completely transparent about the reasons for moderation, and the fact that your comment appeared immediately should show I speak the truth. No one gets moderated for what they say. They get moderated for what they will not say. (And also for posting too much boring, irrelevant, and incoherent stuff that no one wants to wade through.)

I will happily debate with you concerning Gnon’s will for the role of men. But you do not seem willing to debate, just spitting insults.

Do women have a right to refuse sex with their husbands? If they don’t but refuse anyway, what should a man do? Do women have a right to commit adultery? If they don’t, but do it anyway, what should a man do? Is a man the head of the household? If he is, what may he do to maintain discipline?

This is a trick question, because dodging it gives me an excuse to put you back on moderation, but right now I have no excuse, and therefore you are not on moderation.

The Cominator says:

What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I’m the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your “life”. You’re fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking dead, kiddo.

Fidelis says:

Allow me to provide something succinct. No one likes homework, so go ahead and copy my work for a passing mark.

Do women have a right to refuse sex with their husbands? If they don’t but refuse anyway, what should a man do?

Marital rape is something of an anticoncept, like a peaceful murder. A man should laugh and take his satisfaction.

Do women have a right to commit adultery? If they don’t, but do it anyway, what should a man do?

No. Depends on the mercy of the man. Anywhere from death to dragging her through town by the hair, followed by shaving and a wooden pillory for a while. For the male party to adultery, depends on his level of knowledge. If it can be proven he knew the woman was owned, the injured husband must be encouraged to kill him as well.

Is a man the head of the household? If he is, what may he do to maintain discipline?

A stick, no wider than the width of the thumb, may be swiftly applied. Preferably on the upper arms, meaty parts of the back, thigh, and buttocks.

Mayflower Sperg says:

If you are going to fight a war, every soldier needs to know he has a woman to come home to, and that woman is not going to be allowed to get up to anything.

Lieutenant Viktor Belenko had long doubted the Soviet propaganda he’d been fed his entire life, but what triggered his defection was his wife leaving him and taking their four-year-old son with her. How can any state expect loyalty from men while letting women do whatever they please?

Your Uncle Bob says:

That’s a blast from the past. I read MiG Pilot in junior high, out of the school library. One of several small turning points that might have kept me out of adopting liberal orthodoxy in my youth.

In hindsight I see it still assumed the boomer civic religion on race and personal liberty. Nominally conservative and patriotic, yet still implicitly accepting the left as more holy.

I also suspect I just barely made the cutoff for getting even that much. I’d be surprised if it is still on the shelves now. Similarly, I recall an aged grade school teacher reading the class Harrison Bergeron, and later a science teacher loaning me a copy of Starship Troopers. Probably neither of those are happening today.

And checking now… Belenko had two sons with an American music teacher, leading to four grandchildren, but the music teacher also later divorced him. At least his line goes on, and better than the deal he got under open communism, but still not great.

someDude says:

Jim, is this the study you were referring to in connection to dear John letters to nazi soldiers on the front?

someDude says:

sorry, did not want to post them link, but you can search in YouTube under “The female loyalty study so dangerous the Nazis buries it”

The Cominator says:

As I said I saw that video but I could not find any corraborating source to verify its existence…

ToBo says:

She shouldn’t be there, [*you said that already, twice, and I agreed twice, and now you are saying it a third time, and I agree a third time.*]

[*Now say that which is not permitted to be said*]

[*deleted for not conforming to the moderation policy*]

Fidelis says:

They should be afraid of Yewkay, Canuck, and Jurope leftists allying together with the domestic resistance in order to take out Trumpler, before they should worry about China. China has deliberately avoided becoming energy independent, has not turned on any war economy whatsoever, and Xi has been squashing the biggest hawk voices in his party. They know what nukes would do to them, and are not interested in gaining the further attention of the deranged leftists that have been in charge of the GAE.

Jim says:

> they’re very afraid of… China.
> And getting into multiple conflicts at once.
> Counting the one at home.

I have long predicted war internal or external, or all of them at once. We need to permanently crush the left internally, and settle the war with Russia on Russian terms. Putin has just given an extraordinarily conciliatory speech on September thirtieth, which I would summarise as telling his people to prepare for war, while telling Trump he wants peace. He laid out the issues for which Russia is prepared to fight World War III, and the issues as defined by him are minimalist, though of course the forever war brigade are complaining that they are maximalist, and if conceded will lead to further demands.

Just kill Zelensky and agree to Putin’s terms. The war party complains that this would be Munich all over again. The difference between Munich and conceding to Putin’s minimalist demands, however, is that we have been shelling Russia and Russian civilians since 2014, and Putin did not do anything about it until 2022. Hitler’s wish for peace was transparently insincere. Putin’s wish for peace is obviously sincere.

Anonymous Fake says:

Moldbug/Yarvin always says one of the most successful strategies is to kick the dog, let the dog bite back, and then shoot the dog. The best implementation of this strategy just waiting to be done is banning gay marriage and sending ICE to round up all the little boys adopted by the queers. It’s the perfect issue to agitate the far left base, get them to bite, and then shoot them.

The right already has power. It sends ICE to round up Pedro and Maria, nice Mexican fruit pickers. Why can’t it round up Lindsay and Bruce?

Pax Imperialis says:

AF finally stop shillposting!?

A2 says:

The Conversion of the Shills? It’s finally here?

Kevin C. says:

So, already seeing another narrative on Hegseth’s speech that I’m not sure if shill script, foreign-policy-brain, or just too much black pill: that this is the “shot across the bow” that America will be invading Iran before year’s end, and they need a quick boost of morale and/or competence. That they’re only ending DEI and double standards for women now “at the height of geopolitical tension” because they need white men for something.

Thoughts?

Mossadnik says:

Exactly so.

I had a conversation with Netanyahu (who controls America) yesterday, and he told me that the plan is to make America just based enough to regain competence, and then we are going to send all of you GOYIM CATTLE to invade Iran, so that we can finally Make Israel Great Again.

It’s all definitely real and happening. You’re going to literally die for Israel by the end of 2025, you stupid little goy, and there is nothing you can do about it, hahahaha! I personally will make sure that you, your family, your loved ones, your neighbors, your dog, your neighbors’ dog, your mailman, your weatherman, your dentist, and (last but not least) your ex-wife will all DIE FOR ISRAEL in a war against Iran.

Hahahaha! Die for Israel, goyim, die die die!

[Please, please, will people ever stop being retarded? Will it ever actually happen? Will people ever not be drooling faggot retards?]

Mossadnik says:

Pax, Fidelis, Cominator, etc, I’m so sorry that you’re all getting sent to invade Iran so that you can die for Israel. But that’s what Boss Bibi (who controls America) decided, and it’s final. You’re getting shipped to Iran. None of you will make it to 2026. By the end of this year, all of you will be dead – on Iranian soil.

I’m so sorry it’s happening to you, but Israel (which 100% controls American foreign policy) needs dispensable goyim boots on the ground in Iran, and you’re all getting drafted. Trump will send you to invade Iran within the next 2-3 months. And then you will all die. In Iran. For Israel. I’m so sorry.

I’m so sorry it’s happening to you.

Mossadnik says:

Now if you’re curious what is actually (not inside the minds of retards and shills) going to happen in the Middle-East in the coming months, I expect:

Gaza will be resolved in a way that allows the Gazans to exit the Strip, which is the only thing that matters; Israel and Hezbollah may have another round of fighting if Lebanon fails to demilitarize Hezbollah, but I’m optimistic about the current efforts; and the Abraham Accords will start greatly expanding – Trump’s ultimate vision for the region.

This will be excellent for Trump — will gain him Nobel Peace prizes and all that crap — so his adversaries, some of whom may even pretend to be his allies (snakes), attempt to poison and poison and poison the atmosphere. The enemies of Trump are the enemies of peace; and being congenital liars, they therefore pretend to be “pro-peace.”

I’m not wrong about this. You can save/screenshot this comment and then shove it in my face if I end up “totally wrong” here.

Jim says:

I did not see anything indicative of war with Iran. Civil war, looks more like, in the sense that Pete and Trump wanted to feel out the audience to see whose side they were on, and also wanted the audience to see whose side the rest of the audience was on.

A lot of generals laughed at Trump’s jokes. On the other hand a lot of generals looked like they thought their seats had a trapdoor that could drop them into a shark tank.

Some leftists have been arguing that Trump and Hegseth were psyching the generals up to flatten the big blue megalopoli.

I would say, the meeting was a precautionary measure against the treason that happened against Trump 1.0, a precaution against a left coup, and to form the belief among the generals that in the event of civil war, the fighting arm of the military is going to support Trump, to get the generals to believe that in the event of civil war, the other generals are going to support Trump.

The non fighting arms and the admirals are mostly never Trumpers, looks like the fighting arm generals are Trumpers, and the admirals have concluded that it is good for their health to suck it up.

Pete summons the fighting arm generals, separating them from the non fighting arm generals, tells them they are elite and special, and superior to the non fighting arm generals.

You bring everyone together and tell them they are superior and special, you are creating a synthetic tribe within the department of war. A tribe that just got permission to revel in its masculinity, something that is automatically going to put them at odds with the left.

A precaution against civil war, and a preparation for the event of civil war. There was a small grain of truth in the leftist take that he was psyching the generals up to flatten the big blue megalopoli. The grain of truth being that he sought, not to flatten the big blue megalopoli, but to deter the left from creating a situation where they would need to be flattened.

JustAnotherGuy says:

The problem I see is that this masculinity in the combat Arms doesn’t lead to pussy.

Pax, if you’re here and this doesn’t dox you, can you tell me about how much poon the soldiers are getting? All modern states seem to have an inbuilt system to ensure the cuckening of the warrior class. I’m sure they’ll follow the orders to send all the libtards to Alaska, but if this just to secure female rights against transtifa terrorism, then they’ll still be getting 0 pussy.

Well, hohol conscripts get 0 pussy and are rewarded with getting blown up in trenches while their women whore themselves out in Turkey, so I can see why nobody thinks it’s a big problem if the soldiers still do what they are told.

The Cominator says:

“The problem I see is that this masculinity in the combat Arms doesn’t lead to pussy.”

Not secure pussy though most combat arms guys have a manly/dangerous aura often with a manly/dangerous mannerbund which makes women want to fuck them causally. But Jim would point out what they don’t get is secure pussy, apparently in the military they even tell you that “Jodie” is banging your wife or girlfriend when you’re away.

Pax Imperialis says:

Can confirm this. Many who find pussy fall into these two categories. Know a number of men who’ve run through a lot of women, but can’t keep one around (one buddy got a body count in the dozens and it’s depressing every time I see him crash out after she moves on). Know a number of other men who’ve all fucked the same barracks bunny(ies) and are in a state of constant drama because those bitches know how to stir the pot.

Then there are the men who’ve been waiting it out because they feel like they’re too tired, busy, and young to even bother finding a woman to fuck… which to be fair can be pretty true early on in a military career. Think 18-20 year old PFC/Lance who is in the field, supporting training, 24/7 for 70% of the month. He’s using the remaining time just to recuperate in time for the next round of support. He might not even have a car yet because pay is shit and stays on base all the time. Or think recent Lieutenants who find themselves thrown into the deep end right after getting out of the schoolhouse. (it doesn’t help that as Officers, our job is inherently political and the slightest whiff of sexual (or even any) “misconduct” brings all sorts of trouble. Walking on eggshells all the time is not conducive for impressing women. SecWar Hegseth called out fat servicemembers, had he still been in as an Officer, would’ve received a harassment case.)

There are some who have managed to get married and have kids in a stable relationship, but not nearly enough.

Smallest group are the weirdos who spend all their free time studying Ukraine/mil publications/exploring their [insert military equipment/vehicle fetish]/etc instead of chasing pussy who in the past would’ve been married already because their families would’ve arranged something… they, unsurprisingly, tend to be in the more technical jobs.

Jody is a problem.

Jim says:

We need a female base adjacent to the male base, which is subject to discipline and control that makes it difficult for women to get up to mischief. Plus, of course, before we can do that, have to restore marriage 1.0 — coercively penalise female adultery, rather than make it at inalienable human right.

The Cominator says:

I heard about how PC and sensitive everyone in the military with any rank has to be now too (maybe outside combat specops) guy I knew who was a noncom for a while called a fuckup guy a “scrub” and got lectured and almost faced disciplinary action over it and I think this was in the late 90s he said.

Jim says:

> how PC and sensitive everyone in the military with any rank has to be now

This empowers the broken against the whole. It gets weaponized to force the whole to hand the keys of power to a spiteful bioleninist conspiracy of the broken.

The bioleninsts are infuriated and outraged by Pete Hegseth’s speech.

The broken (defectives, faggots, trannies, fatties, childless women, and mutant freaks, the human waste assembled by the bioleninists to staff their conspiracy) are accustomed that when they declare themselves infuriated and outraged by some normie, all the other normies will flee from their target and outgroup their target, and they are trying to get the fighting arm generals to outgroup Pete Hegseth.

Pete Hegseth is a combat veteran. His vehicle was hit by rocket propelled grenade. Outgrouping is not going to fly. He did not perform anything particularly meritorious during combat (he only has non-combat bronze stars), but he has been shot at. No one who has faced enemy fire is going to outgroup a Secretary of the Department of War who has faced enemy fire.

I saw a bioleninist general who was telling us the generals have outgrouped Pete Hegseth. Sounded worrying until the bioleninist general said “particularly the women” In other words, only the bioleninist trash that the normies hate and fear. The more the broken piss on Pete Hegseth to no avail, the less the normies are going to fear the broken.

Fidelis says:

What are the barriers, besides normalcy bias, preventing SecWar and Commander in Chief from simply firing all the clear and obvious trash (out of a cannon, legally). Take basic facial analysis from the footage during the speech, basic analysis of their history, that sort of thing, and just get rid of them.

What would happen? The media would screech or something?

The Cominator says:

I was just relaying that example of a guy who was a long serving senior noncom who was threatened with disciplinary action for calling a screwup (this wasn’t in bootcamp) a “scrub”. Not screaming obscenities at him and calling him a retarded faggot from a mongrel race ala something R Lee Ermey would do in boot camp he was just about to screwup something again and he said to the guy “hey scrub”. Even in a civilian job you absolutely can get chewed out way worse than that.

Now otoh I’ve heard marine boot camp (the marines are something of a warrior mystery cult far more so than any other service and they are fond of saying that the Corps predates the establishment of the United States) strongly resisted for a long time the biolenist shit trying to change the Corps into being something very unlike the corps so…

Pax Imperialis says:

I know a SNCO Marine who got kicked out for putting a 10 lbs rock on a PFC’s back during plank PT. The PFC was well known for failing to meet standard for the PFT plank. The SNCO didn’t throw it or use any kind of force, just gently placed it on the shoulder blades to add some additional weight. No one in his unit, besides the fuck up PFC, called it hazing or bullying. No sane person would call it hazing or bullying. The PFC claimed SNCO broke his back. Medical denied the claim and found no evidence of any physical harm. SNCO was still charged under multiple articles in the UCMJ for violating the “PAC Order”.

Alf says:

What are the barriers, besides normalcy bias, preventing SecWar and Commander in Chief from simply firing all the clear and obvious trash

This is no doubt the million dollar question. Judging from the way Hegseth is acting, some on our side are no doubt thinking along these lines.

When Stalin publicly announced the end of the communist holiness spiral, he did not stop sending kulaks to the gulags. Quite the opposite: rounding up only increased. Stalin was able to stabilize the madness, but in order to consolidate power, had to ride out the communist wave to its end.

Currently everyone is feeling their oats. Can we fire this guy? What about that guy? Can we organize here? What about there? How will the Pentagon respond to this? How will Thermidor react? Etc.

Moving too quick is probably a mistake. Moving too slow, probably too.

Jim says:

As NEET complains, the apparatus of state is full of leftists, very hard to purge.

If leftism was a fixed and stable belief system, this would not be an intolerable problem, but leftism continually mutates further left. It cannot stand still, and the problems of governance cannot be resolved by discussion and compromise, for they are unable to hear what their enemies were saying.

Charles the second fired the entire priesthood, and had them reapply for their old jobs back, where during the job interview they faced a purity test on the old official religion, or the new official religion that plausibly claimed to be old official religion.

The matter can only be resolved by doing something similar.

I am really thrilled by how much win Trump is delivering, but we have a mighty long way to go.

Obviously the civil service, the professoriat, and all that, appoints only those sufficiently left, where “sufficient” keeps getting redefined upwards. To get stability, have to politically purge them all.

In the long run, the most critical thing to purge are the universities. The professoriat needs to be composed of married Christian men of good character who have successfully raised children of good character.

The judicial and prosecution system is broken from top to bottom, most of them deserve twenty years hard labor, the entire system is inherently dysfunctional. Need to brush it aside and rebuild from the ground up.

It took Augustus about twelve years to clean up Rome, and he was liberally using death squads.

NEETS position is “well, that much win is not on the cards, so it is back to ever lefter leftism sooner or later.” No, it is not necessarily back to every lefter leftism sooner or later, for leftism gets ever more insane and dangerous, and therefore the remedies become more drastic. And this has been happening as we watch. The left continues to get more left, more crazy, and more self destructive, and as they do, Trump continues to get more Trump. If they had backed off and backed down, they would be back in power soon enough. Trump’s wins consist in large part of him watching and laughing as they shoot themselves in the foot, then reload and shoot the other foot. If they had just lain low after losing the presidency, the house and the senate, and just let Trump govern, they would easily win the mid terms, and have a good chance in 2028.

Jimian prescriptions will probably be applied sooner or later, one way or another way. We will have that much win, if only because the left will force that outcome. What can you do with those whom you cannot speak to, and who intend to kill you? When diplomacy is impossible, then it must be resolved by war. The left has to be destroyed, because no compromise is possible, and no compromise is possible because no communication is possible.

Mainstream Democrats still think about winning elections, which is why they want to get rid of the present electorate and install a new dumber and more malleable electorate, a point that Trump so brilliantly communicated with his amazingly masterful Mexican hat memes. Elections matter only because so many people still think they matter. They will likely not matter for much longer. Observe what is happening in Europe.

Normality bias is preventing straight out exterminate-the-outgroup war, but with total inability to communicate, normality bias is going away.

Jim says:

Neet predicts that when the Democrats come back in power, anyone who acted as if Trump was in power is going to be punished. He is, of course, correct, Prominent mainstream Democrats have been saying that this is what they intend to do. The kill everyone for insufficient leftism phase is coming right along, and they probably will not be able to wait till they get back in power, just as they were unable to do the glaringly obvious and lay low till the mid terms. If it happens when our guys still have control of the military (and right now our guys do have control of the military) then the left is just going to be exterminated. If it happens when they have control of the miitary, then, failing another more drastic Thermidor, then they exterminate everyone, including each other.

Bix Nudelmann says:

Hegseth can purge the fatties and the out-of-shape. That’s a huge political move. A stochastic one, but very effective in the aggregate. Just out out fucking out.

The correlation of fatness and poor fitness with leftism won’t be 1:1 but damn close.

Jim says:

Hohol conscripts have the Ukraine’s elite nazis believers in their rear, the retreat blockers.

The Pokrovsk-Myrnohrad agglomeration was about to fall into Russian hands intact without a fight. The Ukraine swept up elite loyalist battalions from all over the front, and sent them into the thick of it, no longer comfortably in the retreat blocker rear, but right in the middle of Russian troops.

This threw the Russian troops north of the Pokrovsk-Myrnohrad agglomeration into chaos — but now that the former retreat blockers were no longer comfortably blocking conscripts from retreating, but instead right in the middle of Russian troops, the elite battalions also got thrown into chaos.

When the dust finally settles on the ruins of Pokrovsk, the Russians and the city will have paid a high price, but retreat blocker battalions are going to be thoroughly broken.

The fall of the Pokrovsk-Myrnohrad agglomeration has been delayed for quite some time, but once it falls, the stage will then be set for what remains of the Ukrainian army to mutiny.

Edit_XYZ says:

There were a lot of grim faces in that crowd, Jim. And few, if any, relaxed faces.

If the purpose of the meeting was creating a core of loyal generals, well…Trump has his answer. If he can’t purge most of them, he’ll be purged.

Jim says:

> There were a lot of grim faces in that crowd,

I saw that article too.. But the same source that showed the faces tells me that Trump’s jokes fell flat. Obviously they did not fall flat.

And Pete Hegseth’s psychological manipulation was masterful. And, in the crowd reaction to him and Trump I could see it working.

Because the claim that Trump got a bad response was false, I suspect the faces are out of context. I regularly read how “Putin is falling, falling, he has fallen”. That article looks like “Trump is falling, falling, he has fallen.”

I saw a masterclass in post Republic politics. I am not at all sure that Trump knows what time it is, but Pete Hegseth knows what time it is.

There were indeed a lot of grim faces in that crowd — so grim as to tell me that a lot of generals know what time it is.

When Trump began to speak, I could hear that Pete Hegseth’s speech had relaxed the crowd. They were relaxed because they smelled unity and leadership in their mannerbund.

The bioleninist tactic is to insist that the “oppressed” get “representation” and insert into the group broken members of the oppressed classes. When they have enough broken people inserted into the group, they mobilise the spite of broken against the whole. The DEI lectures divide the room into oppressors and oppressed, and mobilise, organise, and empower the oppressed to wreak vengeance upon the leaderless, disunited, black pilled, and disorganised oppressors.

Pete Hegseth selected generals who passed the weight and strength requirements, as Pete Hegseth himself does, who were overwhelmingly of the oppressor class. And now the oppressor class has a leader, and the oppressed class do not.

Pete Hegseth told the oppressor class that they were superior. Which, manifestly, they are.

Thus, when Pete Hegseth introduced Trump, the room was now relaxed.

The photograph of generals who were grim and distressed, reflected the distress due to being individually powerless and afraid against the organised and united spite of the oppressed. They got the reverse of the DEI lecture.

Jim says:

> the purpose of the meeting was creating a core of loyal generals

That was the purpose, and I can see that it worked. Pete Hegseth gave them the reverse of the DEI lecture.

He told them they have a moral duty of excellence. Bang. Identity on excellence, instead of on victimhood. He reversed the DEI script. They are superior.

Mossadnik says:

Hail Hegseth, Secretary of War, Christian Nationalist and Crusader, Restorer of Order, Real American!

And BEHEAD those who counter-signal Hegseth. He shall be purging the military of disloyalty and subversion, while the losers can only rant impotently on their podcasts, green with envy!

Jim says:

In an entertaining event a short while ago, antifa recognised one of ourguys, an influencer. They told him to leave while preventing him from leaving, which is preparation for violence “He started the confrontation out of racism, sexism, and homophobia”

As they were warming up to beat him or kill him, a green dot appeared on one of the antifa, shortly followed by a red dot. Everyone instantly assumed that these were DHS rooftop snipers, because the FBI would never do anything like that.

Hesiod says:

Saw that clip a day or two ago on The Donald. Hombre needed to change his drawers after that, I imagine.

Contaminated NEET says:

That’s the equivalent of passing a woman’s shit test through deflection. It often works in the short term, but it provokes escalation in the long term until they get a real answer. Nobody got shot. Does the government sniper have the balls to “murder” an “unarmed protestor?” Will the system crucify him if he does? Maybe yes, maybe no, and this scenario is going to repeat until we have a definitive answer.

Jim says:

As you say, the left will escalate the shit tests.

Governor Newscum is still trying to get arrested. The leftists in the street love it, but he makes his fellow leftists in the apparatus of power nervous.

The shutdown is a wonderful opportunity to purge the civil service. Trump says he will do it. The Republican party says he will do it. Will he?

Hesiod says:

To broaden my understanding of Dutton’s theory, I read King James I’s Daemonologie. What struck me most is the dialogue stresses Satan, being the father of lies, deceiving those who seek power through witchcraft with delusions as explanatory for the more outrageous claims such as changing into a bat to fly to France to kiss the Devil’s ass in person. But what is all too real and evident is the malevolent intent of the witch, the desire to harm another out of spite or revenge.

The book’s categorization of magic-users into two groups, mages/necromancers (the terms are interchangeable) and sorcerers/witches, also captured my imagination as the first group are comprised of the learned while the second, being more common, receive most of the spotlight. The primary pitfall of the mage is curiosity, feed of course by other vices. These are the overseers who think they are the masters of spirits but are merely the devil’s puppets. Years ago, someone here compared modern academics with court astrologers of the ancient Near East which I was reminded of reading Daemonologie.

My main concern at the moment is reminding myself not to be overly familiar with this book as four centuries separate its author from yours truly and I’m only beginning to study his world, at least on the subject of spiteful mutants.

FrankNorman says:

On the subject of “spiteful mutants”, I’d have thought there’d be far fewer such people in earlier times than in the modern-day world. A less abnormal environment for one thing.
Also, medical science can nowadays keep alive people who would normally have died in childhood.

Hesiod says:

There were less due to higher child mortality and harsher conditions but still a significant number still survive. If I remember Dutton correctly, during James I’s time, the bloody conflict between Protestant and Papist coupled with scarcer resources than earlier centuries due to real climate variation over time made folks rather less tolerant of those who damaged social cohesion.

Jim says:

Because of mutation, you have to run as hard as you can just to stay in the same place, and we are no longer running as hard as we can, resulting in rapid degeneration.

The low tech solution is to ensure that the high quality subgroup massively reproduces, and low quality group does not. We have seen a few aristocratic societies where this worked. The aristocracy produced astounding numbers of children, and not all of their numerous offspring inherited the same social status, with better, but far from 100%, ability to inherit parental social status if a legitimate offspring, and considerably smaller but non trivial inheritance of paternal social status for the talented children of concubines, but this arrangement was unusual.

The high tech solution is genome proofreading. We have theoretical reason to expect the result to be superhuman, not by adding some new genetic change, but merely through cleaning out the accumulation of random errors. It can, in theory, produce far better results, far faster, than a society with extreme differential fertility.

yewotm8 says:

I am curious about this idea and one I saw you posit a while ago regarding a genetic Adam. I have too many thoughts and questions on these topics and it is hard to cohere them.

I learned in school that genetic mutations are random, therefore if a mutation happens, it’s more likely to be into something different from it was in a previous generation. What you are suggesting seems to me to be undoing all of these changes, at least up to a point. I gather that we are less intelligent and industrious than our ice age ancestors, so we should be able to get a great deal of improvement from strictly undoing. But surely we must be better than them in some ways; there must have been some increases since then.

To add to this: Did the transition from ape to man happen in large leaps, small steps, or through neutral or even negative changes that eventually after subsequent mutations in future generations resulted in improvements? For our distant past, how certain can we be that negative mutations in a single individual were not just local minima? If all we are doing with gene editing is undoing things that look wrong, how could we ever advance to a higher state? With just better selection pressure and reproductive pairing, could we advance into something that makes the humans of the 20th century AD look like apes?

And regarding genetic Adam, I assume this is a hypothetical and not a real superhuman common ancestor of (at least the higher races of) man. If he were to be achieved in the future through gene editing, how would we handle further mutations in his offspring? Would we want to just clone him? Would we let the chips fall as they may and let natural selection happen? Would we allow random mutations in his offspring to “scout” for potential improvements that could be applied to others? What proportion of upgrades to the genome exist that we could never predict and would need to let happen randomly in order to know what they are?

Somewhat related: the differentiation between Orientals and Occidentals occurred less recently than the differentiation between Orientals and Amerindians, but Orientals are behaviourally more similar to Occidentals than to Amerindians. This means that either Amerindians degenerated, or East Asians and Europeans underwent a sort of convergent evolution. If the reason is Amerindian degeneration, I’m not sure that climate can be entirely to blame since Eskimos and even native Siberians aren’t much better than their warm weather cousins. There must be something else.

Jim says:

What happened in the origin of man is still unclear, because we cannot read DNA from bones that are too old, and because we do not really have recorded history until the late iron age. It seems probable that there were civilisations before the seas rose, but all record of that is lost to us, in part because of the ravages of time, in part because those civilisations, if they existed, did not have writing, and in part because underwater archaeology is hard. We have some fragments of history from shortly before the Bronze Age collapse, but not much until written history starts up again around the time of Solomon’s temple.

By analogy with other speciation events that happened more recently, it seems likely that there were a quite small number, half a dozen or so, mutations of large effect, and the rest of it was a selective sweep for a very large number of genes of small effect, with the total effect of those many genes of small effect adding up to quite large effects.

It seems likely, by analogy with speciation events for which we have more data, that if you took a chimpanzee and made the right half dozen or so key changes replacing the key genes with their human versions, the result would be recognisable as human, and if you also replaced a very large number of the common form of chimp genes with forms that exist, but are uncommon in the ancestral chimp population, imitating a selection sweep with no new mutations, you would get something obviously completely human and quite normal looking.

There are other animals that quite smart, not as smart as humans though they are getting there, but most of them are cursed with a short life cycle and rapid maturation, which prevents cultural transmission.

Humans are unique in having a very long childhood, enabling cultural transmission, so genes and culture have been co-evolving — social and material technology would change things, and then we would get selective sweeps to function better with the new social technologies, which would make possible additional new social technologies, leading to further selective sweeps at the genetic level.

But it seems likely that these co-evolved social and genetic changes are for the most part just employing changes of gene frequencies, except for a dozen or so new genes, just as you can make enormous changes in domesticated animals without relying on any new genes and new mutations.

So my recommended prescription is to go back as far as we can go, which is not very far at all, and ask what gene variants have stood the test of time, and what ones are new and rare, and set all new variants back to their older common ancestor. Erase the last few centuries of mutation. Any mutations older than that cannot be too bad, or they would not still be around. Any mutations newer than that are going to be bad in the overwhelming majority of cases.

Beow says:

Are the people here not mutants? There is something different about us. Serious question.

yewotm8 says:

Yes, a lot of the “concern” that brought upon my original questions was the fact that I am much higher IQ than my parents, grandparents, cousins etc. I believed that this must be due to some sort of beneficial mutation or set of mutations, and if pruned from me as an embryo, I would have lost something. I do understand that I would likely have gained much more, as the rest of my genome isn’t perfect, but still. It seems to me that beneficial mutations occur all the time.

Fidelis says:

More likely than not, you are not carrying mutant alleles making you more talented, but instead got a lucky combination. Imagine a more physical system with linear combination and stochastic motion: a gas. You always end up with radical particles zooming about with far more energy than the rest of their fellows.

Alf says:

Yeah fascinating stuff to think about. If we get this sort of gene optimization on the road a whole wild west of opportunity and craziness will be the result. Who knows what will happen. Do parents get to play with sliders in beauty, intelligence, charisma like a video game? If so, what’s stopping parents from maxing everything out? Will that indeed make every gene edited person resemble a similar Adam template? At what point do our children stop being our children and become, like Hercules, half-Gods of our own creation? Crazy stuff.

Beow says:

I have been thinking lately we probably all used to look sort of like Christian McCaffrey (look him up). He looks like the default template for “white guy”. Six foot, 200 lbs of muscle, lightning fast, handsome, smart. That is the imago dei before mutations and sin degraded us into our current misshapen state. There is something familiar and satisfying about guys who still look like that. If we could return there perhaps all vanity and superficiality and such would disappear since we are all perfect.

Cloudswrest says:

What you are suggesting seems to me to be undoing all of these changes,

The simplest algorithm is simply “proofreading”. There are large population surveys which imply which alleles are “good” and which are “bad”. If you upload your 23andMe DNA data to Promethease it compares all your alleles to what’s in the database and gives you a report on which are good and which are “not the best known version” in the database.

BTW, J.F. Gariépy has an interesting speculative science book out called “The Revolutionary Phenotype” which speculates on the far future implications of technologically robust gene editing. Eventually, economics dictates that people will be genetically optimized for being “printed” (instantiated from a database) rather than gestational breeding. Natural breeding will go extinct, and people will end up like mitochondria in a higher level organism which does the actual breeding. It’s “DNA” implemented as some new form of digital storage.

White Nationalist says:

Now I’m not exactly ready to manipulate our own genes just yet (we’re more likely to give ourselves cancer at this point), but also because if we have a White Civilization again, they will be free to evolve at their best Natural rate again. We will be able to select from among the best of ourselves, instead of out daughters being forced to be selected and raped by the inferior DIVERSITY that inhabits the disastrous Jungle known as today’s public schools.

Can you imagine that, an ALL WHITE PUBLIC SCHOOL again? Where not even tokens are free to move into without our permission?

And what do you think this “mitochondria in a higher level organism” is going to be made up of, and who will have the intelligience to make it… let me give you a hint… White People.

It is the White Type, that has advanced through all of history.
Everyone else is just a failed genetic fork that are still lingering around and slowly killing themselves off.

I admit the White Type builds itself into free cohesive contiguous successful all White Nations, it’s a Natural Law that is encoded in our genes.

Even the temporary fake Diversity that has been imported upon us is now being REJECTED by our White DNA.

Jim says:

Proofreading the genome is an obvious good idea.

Reinventing the kind of organism that we are is as far beyond our capabilities as genuinely conscious artificial intelligence, and considering that project is hubris.

Even creating new simple organisms, such as crops with a better photosynthesis is well beyond our capabilities, though our ability to manipulate natural kinds has improved and if we avoid yet another dark age will continue to improve.

Anonymous Fake says:

You’ve been dismissive of the ideal of the students who get the highest grades in school getting [*yet again the same payload deleted yet again*] “Aristocracy” is left mostly undefined [*deleted*]

Jim says:

> You’ve been dismissive of the ideal of the students who get the highest grades in school getting

I have not dismissed it. I have repeatedly explained (and you have repeatedly ignored my explanation and sailed right along) that what you propose is socialism with the professoriat as the commissars, and like any other socialism would lead to poverty, famine, and mass murder. Indeed you explicitly propose Soviet style housing, so at some level you are aware of this.

> “Aristocracy” is left mostly undefined

Aristocracy is direct decentralised military rule, with soldiers and officers exercising direct police and judicial authority, Judge Dredd style, the army funded by officers and men directly and individually owning most rent generating assets, rather than collectively through the state. Officers provide their own military equipment, and personally own it. Albeit this personal ownership of income generating assets is conditional on their loyalty to the state and service to the state, so is partly personal and partly collective.

It is a radically simplified and radically decentralised form of state, resembling, as Hoppes argued, the libertarian ideal in many important ways, though also in many important ways, the opposite of libertarianism.

When the state starts badly malfunctioning, it either goes aristocratic, or disappears altogether. The Western Roman Empire disappeared altogether, the Eastern Roman Empire went aristocratic.

Conversely when a state collapses, and people need to put together a new state from scratch, it is apt to start off aristocratic, and then develop increased complexity as time passes, which is what happened after the Western Roman Empire collapsed.

A Republic on the other hand, is a complex form of state, that requires a lot of moving parts to work together, which requires a virtuous elite. A whole lot of things are apt to go wrong, and frequently do. Many of those things are subtle, complicated, not consciously understood, and difficult to understand and explain. When it works, a Republic is great, but catastrophic failure is likely.

If a large mass of conscript cannon fodder can defeat a small group of elite warriors, you tend to get a highly centralised state. The simplified form of highly centralised state is the Oriental despotism, which is a very nasty form of state. The similarly simplified, but highly decentralised, aristocratic state is much more pleasant.

Alfred the Great and Henry the Lion of Justice introduced an important improvement to the very simplest form of aristocratic state: Paper work. When Judge Dredd administers justice, he has to record what he is doing and why he is doing it. This, of course, is apt to metasticize into bureaucracy, but it prevents an enormous amount of wrongdoing, and this accomplishes the most important quality of an aristocratic state — the creation of a virtuous elite. Warriors scarcely distinguishable from thugs grew into gentlemen.

Because Alfred’s warriors were illiterate, he relied on the priesthood, which rapidly became the bureaucracy. Henry the Lion of Justice had the advantage of somewhat literate warriors, so the bureaucracy was slower to grow.

A2 says:

Necromancers: Faustus might be the prime example (out of literature).

https://creativity-via-sociology.blogspot.com/2024/04/selling-your-soul-to-devil-goethes.html

Samten Omnisuperessentialiter Gyalpo says:

Shill Test:
Women are feral, blindly following ancient instincts from the ancient environment of evolutionary adaptation, which instincts tell them to cruise for alpha males and if emancipated endlessly cruise for rape by alpha male Chads, endlessly shit-testing, preselection testing to seek an Alpha male that’ll master & subjugate them whom they’ll serve for saeculum as the female hindbrain is maladapted for modern civilization & has not evolved since the primordial times of killer apes & Intuitionistic-formation where mating choice was imposed on women & they never choose since the choice was made for them by Men, they resist kicking-and-screaming all attempts to restrain them from pursuing alpha males. Stable monogamy has since in illo tempore been a way to allow each man to own a woman securely & have his property rights secured in her as well as her sexual, reproductive services be owned by him as an Indeclinable, uneffaceable, Ineliminable property right and so each man can start a family and raise a future generation for civilisation’s survival and gtheoretic prisoners dilemmata disequilibria of defect/defect where women apply old female taof “lets you and him fight” is halted, so male synthetic tribal cohesion necessarioriem for Civilization-subsistence & Civilization-maintenance keeps being vitalien & unoverturned, if women are emancipated, Miss Average will waste her youth, her beauty, and her fertility getting nailed by and cruising for Mister One in Thirty, thus a people, a race, a genos, a nation, a faith, an empery or an empire that emancipates women will perish for lack of families & leading to lack of sons. Men have to impose stable monogamy on women with a stick, better yet an Iron-fist.
In the ancestral environment, the environment of evolutionary adaptation, women never had to choose. The choice was made for them. So in our environment, we see women never making a final, equifinal choice, and endlessly cruising for situations where, in the ancestral environment, the decision would be made for them
But as they are all descended for women who did not have to make those choices, because peoples that allowed them those choices vanished.
No matter how abstractively wise in terms of selection presure & game-theoretic diffetential traits their choices, if females get sexual choice, its is defect/defect equilibrium, the game of players and bitches.

I apologise to Jim about My past disrespectful comments, I made them momentarily due to Wrath as I have a supercondensed propensity to Illimitable, uncontrollable Wrath, I apologise sincerely & am apologetic with the planiest unum Necessarium lucidity, I respect you infinitivally & don’t wish to decouple from this place due to its Transtemporal Trans-societal, Transhistorical Evolutionary game-theoretic Evoaletheiologoumenon Truthful wisdom & your polymathic absorptionism, I readily admit I was misbehaving and don’t expect to be forgiven…as the paper I posted on ultrarelativistic turbulence was indeed publish & perish junk science posted for Impressionabilität.

I apologise for being arrogating & posting needless things of low value to appear Superordinate & being disruptive for being called out on it, the reason I didn’t concede that I was being disruptive & didn’t apologise until now was because I felt shy, since I had a misunderstanding with Him and Jim truly is a engineering-minded polymath and a man who has avait beaucoup travaille dans ce monde, and since Jim has polymathic insights on physics, genoevolutionary dynamics, chronodynamics, behavioural gr dynamics, discrete evolutionary psychology, biology, game-theory, physical engineering, mechanoengineering, coenology, chemology, epistemology, historiography of science etc.
I apologise for my adversarialization borne out of wrath.

With that said Neurotoxin accused Me of being a Satanist, and said I had Satan in My username/nomen but I didn’t, and I’m not a Satanist.
Samten/བསམ་གཏན་ is a Tibetan name, has nothing to do with Satan, Here’s what it means:
“With samten, or meditation, you cannot be moved by wander-ing thoughts. Your attention is good, and your desire to do things becomes very real. Exertion encourages some sort of feistiness, and the practice of samten establishes that feistiness as grounded and real.. Working for sentient beings is finally becoming fully and thoroughly established as the ground of your whole being. Your state of mind is completely and fully soaked in it.

The fifth paramita is meditation. The paramita of meditation, or dhyana paramita, is described as a good rider. You ride on the horse of exertion with complete mindfulness and skill. You develop constant steadiness, which is like maintaining a good seat as you ride your horse.

The Sanskrit term dhyana is similar to the word Zen in Japanese, or Ch’an in Chinese. At the paramita level, dhyana means “subdued think ing.” or “mindfulness.” The Tibetan word for dhyana is samten. Sam means “thought process,” or “steadiness of mind,” and ten means “stabilized”; so samten means “stabilized thought process.” Dhyana or samten is like the king of the mountains. You are never moved or challenged. You always stay very still. Samten is a further elaboration on the notion of patience, but it is much more insightful than patience. By learning how to extend your attention further and to stay on one spot for a long period of time, you can cultivate the dharma and the notion of enlightenment”.

What I want to discuss with you and get your thoughts on is the grotesque over-valorization of Japan & gook cartoons by altrightists & supposed dissidents despite Japan being the most misandristic society on earth, in all Japanese media (such as a recent TV show aired on NHK called Husband, Why won’t you die, which showcases the husbands of gookesses dying & their deaths being celebrated by the wives for the original sin of sexism, despite all the males being very gynoikratia and feminist) & not just cartoons but most Venenatissimum in cartoons which demonizes Manliness, Men, Male behaviour, Male sexuality, Fathers, trivializes male life & death, showcases male martial artists & yakuza being killed & outcombated by 10 year old girls, shows women in manly roles with Equipotence, exercising male authority, shows women as angelic and men as beneath them & hopeless & demonic, disgusting etc.

Are malicious shills of globohomo pushing his stuff (in Japan and in the alt right) for the intentionalized effect of Androcidal depopulation?
How did the Manliest of nations on earth became the gildediest one? why is this hitting Japan so specifically & disastrously, Korea & China have lower fertility rates but there has been nothing anywhere in comparabilem to whay I have seen the demonization of men to the extent I observe in Japan

Jim says:

> What I want to discuss with you and get your thoughts on is the grotesque over-valorization of Japan & gook cartoons by altrightists & supposed dissidents despite Japan being the most misandristic society on earth,

It is just that Japan has enough freedom of speech left to be entertaining.

Thus for example, in the most recent Konosuba movie, the protagonist is captured by some female orcs, resembling humanoid feral pigs. Their males are all dead, so they attempt to forcibly have sex with him. This is played for laughs, reflecting the fact females sexually assaulting and raping males is hilariously different from, and inequivalent to, males raping females, and infinitely less serious. This was deemed problematic by the critics, because males and females are supposedly perfectly interchangeable. Subsequently he has a run in with a monster whose form comes from the people and creatures it consumes. Having consumed a hot chick, it has the form of a hot chick — except that before that it consumed a man, so it is a tranny. And again, played for laughs our protagonist discovers that has been sexually interacting with a tranny, and is horrified. (That he might have been eaten seems to bother him less) This is again deemed problematic by the critics, since it implies that sex with trannies is disgusting.

The anime has all the horrible flaws you list, but clearly less censored than western media. Western media cannot be fun, for the same reason as the left can’t meme.

Another good thing about this movie is that though it is full of action girls, none of the action girls are capable of going up against a man and taking him down in physical combat. Almost as if God created us male and female.

So, though all your criticisms are clearly valid, compare the alternative. Can you find a western movie that is not far worse? Western media stopped being fun when Princess Leia strangled Jabba the Hut.

The Cominator says:

Western movies were fun through the 90s at least (hell in the 90s they madeBraveheart, Goldeneye, Avatar, True Romance) the last somewhat entertaining movies were made sometime around the era of Avatar.

The Cominatorf says:

Why did I say Avatar, I mean Goldeneye. Avatar was sort of the last hurrah for entertaining movies even if it was globohomo propaganda…

Jehu says:

Last movie I enjoyed in a movie theater was Midway. But that one if I recall was heavily funded by China.

The Cominator says:

Yes, I saw that too and it was actually good. I have no idea whether Werner Best was so decisive in sinking the Japanese carriers I suspect that was exagerrated.

Jehu says:

Near as I can tell, it’s pretty much true. The movie focuses a lot on Best who is the only man in history credited with destroying 2 aircraft carriers in a single day. They also could have focused more on Thach, who was also a legendary figure who enabled Best to be, well, his best. But I understand they didn’t want the movie to be even longer than it was.

What I really liked most about the movie is it allowed everyone to be as they were with no authorial affirmative action. Even the Japanese honestly got a fair shake in the movie.

The Cominator says:

And I don’t know why I said Avatar I meant to say Goodfellas. Avatar was sort of around the last era of good movies.

If China largely made Midway it shows that Russia and China love “Americana” far more than our elites do as can be judged by the Russian “World of Warships” trailer.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FcjDzi3ghtM&list=RDFcjDzi3ghtM

Samten Omnisuperessentialiter Gyalpo says:

To answer your question Jim:
I’m sure that Western Media has been Omni-pervasively without any corners, arealities or avenues left (cornerlessly) been ‘globohome’ to dilute the concept of Marriage 1.0 as well as Manly virtues like courage, loyalty, orgonotic will, fearlessness, Imperturability, truth-seeking, infinitation-seeking, investing in genos & your tribe etc as well as feminine virtues of obedience, fidelity & submission to husbands, meekness, & unbounded maternal affection, lack of behavioural frigidity, insolence & ankylosis etc from the mnemoneutikon of people & do damantio memoratur of the reality of Patriarchal ordination as the only successful mode among all modalities of reproduction.
I don’t really watch anything after the 1980s, I do watch alot of professional wrestling, both Western & Japanese though, I can assure you that it’s much worse in Japan than American in some ways (an example is that there are much more effeminate professional wrestlers in Japan than America, much more intergender wrestling matches among major independent promotions while the concept of intergender pro wrestling is still unthinkable in America).

I gave an example of an Androcidal drama dvocating the extermination of all Men in Japan,that aired on prominent networks like TV Aichi TV Kyushu (Kyushu is more traditionalist than any other places in Japan) and TV tokyo the show is called 夫よ、死んでくれないか meaning ”Please Die My Husband” it’s adapted from a novel called “Otto yo, Shinde Kurenai ka” by Maruyama Masaki.
It shows 3 wives slowly plotting the demise of their husbands gleefully & has some really disgusting gore scenes of a man dying with blood gushing like geyser from his mouth while his wife does nothing.

What I’m trying to say is that Japanese leftism is based primarily on gynoiphilic gynoikratiac feminism & the extermination of all Japanese men for the original sin of sexism & sexual slavery during World War 2, Geisha system, concubinage, the infinitillion centillion rapes by Japanese Men during the Greater East Asian War (Dai Tō-A Sensō) the oh so horrific wordless, unspeakable horrors committed in the enforcement of Shinto-Buddhological Patriarchy, the burdens on women & blah blah.

It has been getting ever more extreme with ever accelerated extremity, it’s another leftist singularity, in recent times in Japanese Manga & all Uniparty Japanese media there has been a prevalence of disgusting gore & violence towards Men, deaths of men Trivialized, deaths of Men by females unrecounted as if nothing happened, it seems to Me like Japanese leftism, more so than any other Eastern Asian & Inner Asian nation has mutated & transmorgified into Androcidal leftism, and is getting ever closer to immanentizing the Eschaton, which means Instantiating Androcide, more than 60% of Japanese men younger than 40 are virgins

People like BAP have said for a few years that Japan as a polity is something that Europeans can model themselves after, and there is almost invariably universal praise for 2020s Japan on the right on twitter etc but the opposite seems to be the case, after MacArthurization/Westernization, anyone should never said imitate Japan.

Jim says:

> What I’m trying to say is that Japanese leftism is based primarily on gynoiphilic gynoikratiac feminism & the extermination of all Japanese men for the original sin of sexism & sexual slavery during World War 2, Geisha system, concubinage, the infinitillion centillion rapes by Japanese Men during the Greater East Asian War (Dai Tō-A Sensō) the oh so horrific wordless, unspeakable horrors committed in the enforcement of Shinto-Buddhological Patriarchy, the burdens on women & blah blah.

Well, yes, obviously, but it still permits the Japanese to create entertainment that western leftism does not permit, which we naturally wish we were permitted.

It also permits them to create a peaceful, orderly, and racially pure environment, which we naturally wish we were permitted.

Of course it permits them to reproduce even less than we are permitted, which is very bad indeed.

The Cominator says:

In Japan I’ve heard “feminism” mostly translates from women as “we want more money” but women are still more casually nice to men than American women are. American feminism is more “if you’re not chad don’t talk to us, and if you do we want the money upfront”, also we will be disagreeable harpies all the time.

Also Jim doesn’t like when I say this because its one of my slight heresies from him but I’ve often said that Japan as a country is kind of full, most of the country is mountains, almost all of their flatlands are filled with megacities. It would be hard to sustain reproduction at high levels even if they brought back pre WWII patriarchal social institutions.

Fidelis says:

Ever since social media they are rapidly converging on GAE feminism. They had the problem of ms average hating mr average, but strong social expectations managed to keep it from getting to Korea levels. Now with the boomers caring less as they get older and more detached, and the young get memetic cross pollination, they are converging.

Everyone lives in megacities because they’re getting more FIREized. Countryside had lots of small industrial shops that fed the keiretsu global manufacturers, or just had some specialized high skill good. Now, no patriarchy means no one to pass down the shop to, and no shops means no jobs, so the few remaining young migrate. You ride a train or drive a car between cities, remarkably low in population. It reminds me of driving around in PA or something.

I believe you talk to older guys on this, or your impression of the place from pre-social media remains intact, because your opinions remind me greatly of the older military guys that got married to a local at a bar near the base and it mostly stayed intact. That phenomenon is largely evaporating, looking more like american standard of marry, one child, if that, divorce.

Mossadnik says:

The HBD (racial or esoteric or both) answer is that Eastern Man does not have the same appreciation for life as Western Man does, so when exhibiting a misandric failure mode, it will manifest differently on the “kill all men” metric in the East than it does in the West. As for why it’s particularly bad in Japan, that could be related to the national humiliation inflicted on it when it lost in WWII.

Pax Imperialis says:

>As for why it’s particularly bad in Japan, that could be related to the national humiliation inflicted on it when it lost in WWII

Don’t think that’s it. Watch this compilation of openings of the top anime series from 1975 to 2024. Manly dreams of space and battle used to dominate. If you look at the less popular series corresponding with the years, adult male characters were mostly drawn with muscle and grit. Series focusing on war and politics were common. Around the late 2000s, men got soft looking and plots became more centered around moe shit or pure escapism (isekai) with pathetic lame men… actually, it’s more like men vanished and were replaced with androgynous boys. War and political anime are now incredibly rare*. Classic Mecha and space animes are basically dead.

I think a likely reason is that Japan simply stopped dreaming. They got old and geriatric. Another likely factor is that as anime started to go global in the 90s and wanted in on the American market, GAE censorship started to dictate what could and could not be featured in plots and art styles. We already know for a fact that Japanese game designers have been bullied into using “body type” rather than gender.

*Highly recommend watching this. This type of art has nearly vanished.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybLKmO5Kq5A

Mossadnik says:

I think a likely reason is that Japan simply stopped dreaming. They got old and geriatric.

The same applies globally. I guess we really do need to be advancing those anti-aging technologies, huh. BAP is likely to be proven right about the Trad Tard thing not happening (despite KD’s best efforts to troll me into playing Literally God in this timeline), and coverture is not actually a panacea to all social ills — past, present, and future — invaluable as it is as a society-stabilizing, pro-reproductive social technology. The only way out (of Modernity and its discontents) is through. The “N” in “NRx” does not stand for NIGGER.

Jim says:

> we really do need to be advancing those anti-aging technologies

Old people just get stuck with the skillset they developed in their youth.

What we need is more high quality children. Smart people are unable to reproduce.

Men and women are stuck in prisoner’s dilemma. If you look up pretty women complaining about male relationship misconduct, they think they are complaining about male relationship misconduct, but what they are in fact complaining about is that they are pretending to themselves and others that they have a relationship, when in fact they are on a booty call list, and are going to wind up dying alone and being eaten by their cats.

Sometimes those women will tell us what the men told them. And the men were not lying. They were allowing the women to believe they were in a relationship, but when woman pressed him, he would tell her the truth — gently, the truth with the hard edges removed, but the truth, that she was a booty call. That she was a booty call was cloaked in wordy gentle euphemisms, but the meaning was plain enough even in the second hand retelling. And the woman would not hear and would not understand. I doubt they would have understood even if their “partner” had just flat out plainly said “you are just yet another trash slut booty call, and you are giving me far too much grief for a trash slut.”

I strongly suspect that a lot of them were told they were just another trash slut booty call, but were unable to recall it except as another shit test passed. The heat in their pussy that they felt after being kicked out at one in the morning resulted in the actual reasons for that heat being replaced by socially acceptable reasons for that heat.

Why, they complain, do men not love us women the way we love him? But the traditional expectation was that men would love, and women would obey. No one expected wives to love their husbands. They expected men to love women, the other way around barely touched consciousness. The thought scarcely occurred. The idea of a woman loving a man was just not a thing.

And even those few men with a rather long booty call list find that a rotating collection of whores is not a harem. It is very stressful, and it burns them out.

We need a system where men and women get stuck with each other even if they don’t much like it, and even if it turns out very badly, a system women get stuck with one man at the beginning of their short fertile window. Otherwise we get too much energy devoted to zero sum and negative sum sexual competition.

The women would creatively and imaginatively re-imagine and re-invent what they had been told like Democrats trying to interpret a Trump meme. They put a great deal of thought and energy into not understanding what they had been told.

In the ancestral environment of evolutionary adaptation, women never got to exercise sexual choice. We are entirely descended from groups, populations, and tribes, that severely restricted or absolutely prohibited female sexual choice. As a result, women are very very bad at it, and if it is permitted at all, it can only be permitted under strong guidance and restraint from parents — or, in the absence of parents, by Church and state.

And even if women evolved to be good at it, which they will eventually do if an environment of female sexual choice continues for a long time, the result is a society in which far too much energy is wasted in in zero sum and negative sum sexual competition, with the result that such peoples got conquered and largely eradicated by peoples that did not permit female sexual choice.

Mossadnik says:

Notwithstanding all that, substantially increasing longevity (by reversing biological aging) is not in any fundamental contradiction to Divine Law.

Genesis 6:1-4:

1 And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them,

2 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.

3 And the Lord said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.

4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.

A lifespan limited to 120 is punishment for our sinful nature, according to whoever wrote the Bible. And yet the Bible itself gives ample examples of characters being immune to the punishment and living long past that (famously Methuselah, who lived to 969, or even Abraham, who died at 175), which can be interpreted as a hint — in the prophetic sense — that righteous conduct, i.e., adherence to Divine Law, may yet overpower the 120 lifespan limit.

We’re not looking to abolish the Law but to fulfill it, and scientific anti-aging is not (in itself) abolition of the Law, but rather may be vouchsafed as a reward for fulfilling it. Granted, we wretched sinners are not anywhere near fulfillment of the Law, but regardless, it’s clear that the Spirit of the Law is that Life is essentially good (Extropianism being a modern take on that theme), and I don’t believe that Heaven looks with any disfavor at scientific anti-aging, provided of course that the aforementioned righteous conduct is properly maintained.

There are echoes of Anti-Deathism in the Bible. Which may be given an entirely metaphorical interpretation, but the literal interpretation is not far-fetched either. (The point to remember here is that Anti-Deathism can be achieved not by rebelling against the Law, as the Serpent deceptively told us, but indeed by practicing it to the best of our ability.)

Mossadnik says:

Extropianism (which I support) posits an essentially Pro-Life telos for the Cosmos, which cosmic teleology is no doubt manifest reproductively, even sexually, but not necessarily to the exclusion of other manifestations, whether strictly biological or otherwise; prolongation and vitalization of existing life, for instance, has been hailed as a Blessing since time immemorial. In Israel, we literally say “May you live to 120.”

Yes, obviously need to solve the Woman Problem. But there are other pieces to this puzzle, even if we regard the WP as top priority. One aspect of successfully navigating Modernity is having a Jim-Christian (Reality is Real) orientation to scientific endeavor. This does not mean, to be sure, embracing the superior holiness of the SCIENCE! cult. Far from it. But some modern maladies will likely require modern cures, hence the “Neo” in “Neo-Reaction.”

Bix Nudelmann says:

I strongly suspect that a lot of them were told they were just another trash slut booty call, but were unable to recall it except as another shit test passed.

Sharp as fuck.

If we’re evolved from environments where women never made sexual choices, then those were also the environments were women never had to make sense of their sexual choices either. Everything just “happens” with them.

“Will I be pretty / Will I be rich / Here’s what she said / to me…”

So: Shit test passed, or shit test failed. That’s all we can expect from them until 60 or so.

Children don’t fly airplanes, and neither do they understand how airplanes work.

Samten Omnisuperessentialiter Gyalpo says:

That’s not completely correct Mossadnik, East Asians are also simply not like that, that’s only symptomatological of the greater causes.

the reason if they are behaving like that is because Eurasians are being oppressed even more than Europeans are, if I recall correctly USAID pushed for feminism among Tibetans, Bhutanese & Nepalis & even Mongols in Inner Asia.

As for Japanese, Japan is in a deep failure mode of it’s Iusnaturalem, Natural Telos & Gennêtikon Telos & Thymoeides, I have never seen any Japanese right-winger bring up the ie system which was the coenojurisprudential arrangement for Patriarchy & Patrimonialism in Japan, through which collective male ownership of female sexuality & collective male enforcement & control over female sexuality was maintained & substantiated, only leftist academics are allowed to discuss it as an example of how it was an outrageous oppressive failure and it oppressed wahmen & it was so antiquated feudalistic shogunal leftover and how it was dysprosperity & caused Japan to be cruel militaristic & warlike, war-waging etc and how it’s part of the numberless sins of Japanese men (the original sin being Manhood & Militarism/Militocracy itself)
Pre 1949 Japan had women entirely under the authority of the head of family (Paterfiliusfamilias)
To the contrarium, everyone brings up the divorces in Japan pre-1949 to prove to Me how progressive the past was, to which I bring up that in the past women were collectively lower status than Me & couldn’t talk back to an even average Man in Japan & he had full authority to punish any unbethrothed woman for any reason or no reason at all, that the Old Japanese system was were men divorced women if a woman failed to perform to their requirements, and the woman lost everything in the divorce while in the New Japanese system, women divorce men if the man fails to perform to their requirements (which is to say pass a shit test sociatively incompossible to pass due to state-feminism) , and the man loses everything.

Androcidal feminism is a Japanese-specific epiphenomenon so far, as Korea & China despite having some controlled state-feminism (which can rapidly polymorph into uncontrollable state-gynoifeminism) have mostly reigned in the fanatics somehow, alot of young Korean & Chinese men are redpilled, there are some old redpilled Japanese men but the young jap men just seem broken to Me on a pneumatological-dianoētikon level.

Mossadnik, I read alot of Manga/Manhwa/Manhua (like Jim, I read alot of webtoon/manhwa) you can compare the following to see whether what I say is true or not:

Manhwa:
Myst, Might, Mayhem (Evil Demonic Overlord who’s an incarnation of Māra, Through Metempsychosis Trabsmigrates to earth, incredibly Manly, values valour, love interest is a spirit class of what’s called a pretikā in Esoteric Buddhism, she throws a preselection test and tries to take over his body through some phantasmic evil magical illusion-spiritation, Protagonist overpowers her with his boundless wrath (thumoumenon) & undimimishable multipotent omnicompetent strength & enslaves her as his familiar, subjugates her and treats her like a maid/servantess, conquers everything through valour and reaches Nirvāṇa (in the end of the novel from which the manga was adapted he reached an infinite-dimensional space of nonduality Beyond 4-D Space-Time which only the Tathāgata and the Eight Immortal Taoists reached before him

The Great Heavenly Demon Sovereign:
Protagonist loses his grandfather to an unknown assassin he seeks revenge, and devours Martial Arts of the Ten Gates Demon Path and the bloody realities of battle, he becomes the strongest in the Jianghu, the series valorizes combat strength, Male agapistic love, male fraternization, male virtues etc..

Cry, even better if you beg: Jim already summated this, this shows the mating dance of men conquering & women surrendering but men competing & women choosing and gives a redpilled account of female sexuality through how the High Status Alpha Male Duke torments the female with virility & how the more he afflicts her the more she grows obsessed with him.

Second Life Ranker: protagonist’s brother dies in a mysterious Multidimensional Hyperspace inside a vertically stacked Tower/Pagoda, protagonist goes scorched earth on everyone, Strength, Engineering, Wise Decision-making, perseverance, perdurance, omniendurance, courage, dauntlessness, loyalty, Martial virtues etc are valorized, it also shows a redpilled account of female nature, in how the beta male brother sacrificed himself unconditioned for some evil demon sorcereress he was in love with who was attempting apotheosis or enopoietotheosis agglutination with some evil goddess, she aggultinates with the goddess, the protagonist kills her physical body then tells the goddess to wash her neck and wait and goes to the Higher Realm and kills the Dharmakāya of the evil goddess.

All of this is unthinkable in Japanese fiction.

Chinese Manhua:

Rebirth of the Urban Immortal Cultivator
Reverend Insanity
Return of the Invincible Patriarch
I am the fated villain (this one shows the most redpilled account of female pneumatopsychology/ontopsychology/sophiology I’ve ever seen in a modern piece of fiction, protagonist passes all shit tests & subjugates & enslaves females, it lacks intuitional psychologistic mapping & depth in male characters though, East Asians are not good at priesting & understanding priesting)

All of these valorize strength, manliness, loyalty of both subordinates & masters, behaviours that leads to success, infinitary self-cultivation etc, these works are not immunopoetologically infallible from feminism as they have many token/kibble muh hyperpotent female characters & the rest but they don’t valorize female defection, cruelty & monstrosity or do some worship of mortal female beauty as some Transcendentally unattainable auspice Which is desecrated by male sexuality.

Japanese works on the other hand hypervalorize female sexuality while demonizing male behaviour & male sexuality while also counter-juxtaposing all male virtues & competences on female characters & female submission & meekness unto male characters, they also transsexualize by having Great Men from history be represented in representamen as little girls, which is a very bizzare phenomena and come across to Me as trying to erase male magnificence, they also do cryptotrannyism as women inherit all male behaviours & mannerisms while men adopt all the things both behaviourally & phenomenologically traditionally expected from females.
I can name some of these disgusting mangas if you want, for now they’re obscure & only published in some magazines among the sheer measureless quantity of manga but these troupes so to speak have a pluriprevalence in even mainstream works nonetheless, there’s also a prevalence of gore with men being butchered & disemboweled in myriadic multifarious ways of disfiguring by female characters, it’s all horrifying & castrated.

What I wish to illuminate is that Androcidal extremity seems to be a Japan only modality & seems like an extreme mode of the leftist singularity specific to Japan, it hasn’t completely reared it’s unutterably vile dusky-veined head for now, & agrestic arealographies in Japan are somewhat unaffected from the Androcidal extremity for now but it’s very much a thing.

None of the Korean & Chink works are some Transcendental Transtemporal acrostic masterpieces of Timeless Poetischewissenschaftslehre, & there are indeed many junk gynoifeminist Korean & chink works with strong wahmen warrioresses in it but they don’t have any Androcidal pathema & propagare like your average Japanese manga does.

Goodnight.

FrankNorman says:

Samten, if you want to be understood, you need to stop posting in your own private language and instead use normal-people words.

I mean seriously – are you trying to communicate with others, or are you just indulging your desire to sound clever?
(And you don’t sound clever!)

A2 says:

I see than Stephen Miller goes hard on Memphis after the Iryna murder. Good, don’t let it be forgotten. Let’s hope they can get some scumbags off the streets (and ideally into the noose).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVC_Pw7Ov1Y

Hesiod says:

Some choice REEE-ing in the comments:

“This is so embarrassing. Why is secretary of defense even there??? The dumbing down of America is real. Idiocracy”

Jim says:

Memphis policing is under a consent decree, which means leftists get to breath down the necks of police and force Memphis to pay a never ending stream of money to leftists.

The left has been milking it the consent decree and escalating it ever since 1978. A consent decree creates a permanent unelected self perpetuating bureaucracy of radical leftists who escalate their power and fat cat jobs without limit, even though the original inciting incident of bad police conduct should have been deal with some quite moderate disciplinary action and then forgotten.

Why do we have a vast bureaucracy that derives limitless executive power over police through a judgement by a minor judge over inappropriate policing in 1978?

Consent decrees enable judges to create new federal bureaucracies that perform executive functions that are not answerable to elected leaders.

All federal executive power should depend entirely on what the current president decides moment to moment.

Note that the government shutdown does not empower the president to stop the river of money flowing from the City of Memphis to an unelected federal bureaucracy of radical leftists created by a minor judge in 1978.

This is akin to the problem Alexander the Liberator created when he gave land to the serfs collectively rather than individually. The practical effect was to give rural land to urban leftists in the capital who inevitably plotted the murder of the Czars.

To shutdown the left, shut down these unanswerable federal bureaucracies. Department of Education, environment, and the consent decree bureaucracies. And, of course, put tanks in Harvard.

Fidelis says:

I’ve been thinking, for those with lots of capital, might be a good bet to buy real estate in inner cities. Baltimore is right next to the capital city, has an amazing harbor, history of industry and old rail lines, and not much in the way of FIRE economy in the same way a city like Chicago or NYC devolved into. Yet some of the most prime real estate is lived in by some of the most murderous feral blacks on the Northern continent. Well, if we reverse crime, that real estate becomes quite valuable once again, and the market, I would argue, is still in normalcy bias and cannot recognize the opportunity.

Same with many of the destroyed industrial regions at key geographic hubs that failed to FIREize or FAGMANize. Bottom level real estate prices for what is geographically bound to be very valuable territory given a long enough time span. Buy up some beautiful riverfront property in Detroit and St. Louis.

Milosevic says:

All anyone should be buying at the moment is bitcoin.

Not only will it likely outperform most investments over the next few years, no one knows what is going to happen over the next few years. You need to retain mobility and custody.

Fidelis says:

It’s still an extremely high risk asset, and no one knows how well it will do the job of allowing you to be mobile when everyone is fleeing the sinking ship. Vast majority of people buying bitcoin are westerners themselves, what do you think happens to the exchange rate in other currencies when everyone has to flee?

Real estate, like bitcoin, has a limited supply. If you buy the right land, in the right places, and we don’t go full Khmer Rouge, you will also see a manyfold multiplication of wealth. On top of that, your mechanisms for aquiring the land title are more varied than BTC, which for the most part requires you exchange liquid cash at spot.

Seems like a good bet to me, if anything just for the diversification.

Pete says:

It’s hard to keep hating Trump when he’s in the same room with you, being friendly and joking. Trump just has that kind of charisma. Even the verminous Bill Maher flipped and started saying Trump seems like a decent guy after meeting him in person. This after screeching “Trump is Hitler” for the last decade.

This comes from authentically just being yourself and having confidence based on a lifetime of getting shit done in the real world. No Democrat can do this because they have no real accomplishments that weren’t handed to them. They try to mimic the “aw shucks” down to earth personality, even to the point of using fake accents but it just doesn’t work.

As for Hegseth’s speech it might simply be a preparation for a generals’ purge. He knows there’s no way on God’s green earth those woke faggots can get into physical shape, so he issues the warning, then next year when they are still butterballs, boom you’re fired.

Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.

Jim says:

> Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.

A bioleninist conspiracy manned by the broken and defective was using weaponized hostile work environment complaints to take control of the military, much like the Code of Conduct takeover of open source.

Pax Imperialis tells us that this operation has been blocked. So I do not think Pete Hegseth’s speech was just a cigar.

I think he was telling the generals “Stop the bioleninist takeover”

Pax Imperialis says:

>Pax Imperialis tells us that this operation has been blocked.

To clarify, it’s a preference cascade. Slowly and then suddenly it’s being felt at all ranks.

>then next year when they are still butterballs, boom you’re fired

Obviously Leftist leadership at the top was fired pretty early on into the administration. Certain promotions from the Colonel to BG were put on hold and investigations were launched. A number of JAGs who were pushing Social Justice suddenly got removed. Punishment for politically incorrect Officer “misconduct” suddenly went from administrative separation to NJP a few months into the presidency. Then the trannies vanished. Just a few months ago, it suddenly went from NJPs to Formal Counselings or NPLOCs. Now, in Hegseth’s speech, he said:

Department policy defining conduct by Service members that constitutes hazing, bullying, and harassment is overly broad, jeopardizing combat readiness, mission accomplishment, and trust in the organization
[…]
No more frivolous complaints, no more anonymous complaints, no more repeat complaints, no more smearing reputations
[…]
No more endless waiting, no more legal limbo. No more side-tracking careers. No more walking on eggshells
[…]
At my direction, we’re making changes to the retention of adverse information on personnel records that will allow leaders with forgivable, earnest or minor infractions to not be encumbered by those infractions in perpetuity

The last bolded section is massive for obvious reasons I don’t feel the need to spell it out.

Just this week a Lance openly complained to me about the barracks bunnies stirring shit up. A Lieutenant joked about all the females getting kicked out for not meeting fitness standards after complaining about how they’d all be useless in combat… in public of all places! Things that you’d never hear even whispered in the past because it would’ve been grounds for years of punitive investigations and legal limbo. It’s like we can breath again. This isn’t about a few butterballs getting removed. There is a complete culture shift in the military and it’s working.

Jim says:

If we have the military, everything else is solvable.

If we don’t have the military, nothing else is solvable.

Kash Patel has conspicuously failed to do anything about an FBI that has long been useless, broken, deranged, and in bed metaphorically and literally with Trantifa. But Pete Hegseth gave us back the military.

It looks like the crisis of infinite leftism in finite time is likely to hit well before the crisis of government insolvency, and Trump is putting measures in place to deal with it.

The solution to government insolvency is that the government funds the military, policing against large scale organised threats to order (gangs and political insurgencies), tax collection (with a focus on less administration intensive forms of tax collection, such as tariffs, tolls, land, and natural resource revenues) and just drops everything else. But at the moment we have more urgent crises. Worrying about the deficit now is like worrying about cancer while someone is shooting at you.

Pax Imperialis says:

Trump is using the deficit politics and the ensuing shutdown to justify mass firing of the administrative/deep state and cutting federal funds to blue states. ‘Worrying’ about the deficit is removing a large scale organize threat both within the federal government and in hostile state governments, so I hope this very sincere ‘worry’ continues till the last leftist is crying, starving, and on the streets unemployed.

Pax Imperialis says:

>Kash Patel has conspicuously failed to do anything about an FBI

I’ll have to disagree. FBI under first Trump administration was a constant problem. So far, haven’t seen any overt conspiracies against the second administration (probably went underground). Clearly there is house cleaning going on, and the most recent news is that ADL has been kicked out of their unofficial office. That said.

Patel is clearly having difficulty in reforming FBI. He does seem unreliable and slimy at best. The wrong faith and person for that job, but FBI appears to not have a clear hierarchical org chart in the same way a military will. Command and control is much harder. Compounding the problem, FBI (and CIA) is inherently, primarily, a culture defined by secrecy. Hard to know who is who and what they really believe in compared to the military where secrecy is secondary and subservient to the warrior culture. It would be easier, structurally, to just cut the Gordian Knot instead of unraveling it, and handing off the problem to DOW.

Now if Patel’s job was changed to outright dismantling FBI, could be the right guy, but I suspect Trump is too enamored by nostalgic Americana, which at this point, despite FBI’s crimes, still strongly views FBI as part of the culture’s pantheon.

Jim says:

> but FBI appears to not have a clear hierarchical org chart in the same way a military will. Command and control is much harder.

We have had this problem before many times, we know the solution, and the solution has been successfully applied many times.

Fire the whole lot, and invite them to re-apply for their old jobs. At the job interview, require them to give an affirmation of the official faith.

This might seem stupid. What stops them from just lying? And yet, strangely, it works. But of course, you need an official faith, manned by men who sincerely and seriously believe in the official faith.

If no faith, and no true believers, well you need to bring a gun to a gunfight and a faith to a holy war, and if you find yourself in a holy war where you do not have a faith, and the enemy does have a faith, you are going lose.

Jim says:

Trump recently issued NSPM-7, which directs that certain political beliefs should result in government keeping an eye on them for connections to terror😲 Oh the horror, the horror🙃

Right wing beliefs have led to investigation for terror for over a century. The FBI was created by men of one faith to watch men of a different faith. It has always been a primarily political organisation with a thin law enforcement veneer.

And it is still doing it, although over the years its faith mutated to something ever more evil and deranged.

It was the Army Intelligence that found the people selling nuke secrets to the Soviets, but army intelligence is not in the business of arresting and charging civilians, so they passed the information to the FBI, which sat dead on it until the House Unamerican Activies committee got up their ass. The FBI was in bed with the Soviet spies. In their official version of the events they were the ones that caught the spies, but they had to be dragged kicking and screaming the whole way.

Pax Imperialis says:

>Fire the whole lot, and invite them to re-apply for their old jobs. At the job interview, require them to give an affirmation of the official faith.

Why bother when there is a perfectly good alternative?

>It was the Army Intelligence that found the people selling nuke secrets to the Soviets

V. K. Ovelund says:

The solution to federal-government insolvency is that there is no such thing as federal-government insolvency.

The fiat dollar is a tax credit.

Worrying about the deficit now is like worrying about cancer while someone is shooting at you.

True, but worrying about the deficit later will remain unproductive until policymakers have grasped the nature of the thing about which they worry.

Daddy Scarebucks says:

Well, aren’t you a clever boy. “The government can’t run out of money, because it can just issue new money!”

What a complete surprise that Mr. “National Socialist” turns out to be a Socialist first and foremost, with less than a fourth-grade understanding of economics.

Fidelis says:

Distancing from the source of the comment, it’s a terrifying and historically true statement. States will use all means of cannibalism to fund their insanity, up until the very last moment when they can only afford police to stabilize any revolts against their cannibalism, shortly followed by state level suicide or getting robbed, enslaved, murdered by foreigners.

Run out of money? They’ll print more. Inflation? Print even more. This causes problems? Confiscate what your inflated currency cannot buy. Then print more to reward your political backers.

The Cominator says:

Well eventually they hit the Zimbabwe/Venezuala/Mid 20s Weimar stage of currency debasement where people do not want to bother with the worthless local currency… its odd that those governments still manage to stay in power after that sometimes though.

V. K. Ovelund says:

Well eventually they hit the Zimbabwe/Venezuala/Mid 20s Weimar stage of currency debasement where people do not want to bother with the worthless local currency… its odd that those governments still manage to stay in power after that sometimes though.

Zimbabwe is run by negroes. Venezuela, I know too little about to comment on (if you’d fill me in or point me toward a credible source, I’d appreciate it). Mid 20s Weimar owed reparations in gold.

Setting aside the Venezuelan example for the moment, the United States lacks the specific problems Zimbabwe and Weimar had. You have not mentioned Greece but, if you had, the same answer would apply there, too.

Run out of money? They’ll print more. Inflation? Print even more. This causes problems? Confiscate what your inflated currency cannot buy. Then print more to reward your political backers.

Corruption is bad but is a separate issue. As to inflation, you are right in a way, but inflation does not work quite as most intelligent, broadly informed citizens think. If it did, then the United States would have hyperinflated to bankruptcy 30 years ago.

Would you agree that inflation is chiefly caused by too much money in circulation? If so, and if too much is in circulation, and if you’d entertain a Socratic question, then how does the federal government remove the excess money from circulation?

Daddy Scarebucks says:

States will use all means of cannibalism to fund their insanity, up until the very last moment when they can only afford police to stabilize any revolts against their cannibalism, shortly followed by state level suicide or getting robbed, enslaved, murdered by foreigners.

All true, of course; but “insanity” can be replaced by “insolvency” in this paragraph without much change in the meaning. This most definitely does happen; I only object to the squid ink from fednats and nazbols insisting that it’s somehow not insolvency, or that we should embrace it because it’s inevitable in any case.

Zimbabwe is run by negroes.

Exactly how many times must we hear and refute the assertion that “socialism works fine without the jews and nonwhites” before we stop allowing it to be made? I understand the moderation policy, that positions aren’t inherently banned, but this is getting ridiculous; if someone wants to make an argument for socialism then they should at least be required to make a new argument that we haven’t heard and refuted a thousand times before.

It is always the exact same argument carrying the exact same payload. “There is nothing wrong with the progressive program–best economy ever, fat!–it is just being derailed by wreckers jews and niggers”. Always trying to sneak left-wing ideas into right-wing spaces by smearing those ideas with some kind of racism, the kind of barely-coherent racism that progressives attribute to non-progressives, like primitive hunters smearing themselves with dirt to evade olfactory detection for just long enough to get close to their prey, except a lot faker and gayer.

Every socialist state regardless of demographics follows the same trajectory: first stagflation, then Five Year Plans, then “we pretend to work, they pretend to pay us”, and finally killing fields. African communism might be faster-acting and more tragicomically catastrophic than the European or American flavor, but it is a difference of degree, not kind.

Jim says:

To be fair, Ovelund is not arguing that white socialism is fine, he is arguing that white money printing is fine.

The existing level of monetary debasement is not fine, it is just that it set in slowly, so as with slow boiling a frog, everyone gets used to it and thinks it is normal, but it is obvious that living standards are collapsing and that GDP and CPI is fake and getting faker.

And with ever higher deficits, we are getting ever higher rates of monetary debasement.

Printing money is the seignorage tax. And it is probable that the seignorage tax can go up quite a bit higher before it hits the Laffer limit. Zimababwe, Weimar, the Continental, and all that are what happens when you hit the Laffer limit of the seignorage tax.

The government can always print more money just as it can always raise more taxes. Except that taxes are already at or past the Laffer limit, so the government cannot raise more taxes. It can raise tax rates, but this results in decreased revenue. This leaves only the seigniorage tax, which is currently below the Laffer limit. So naturally Government as an interest group wants to raise it.

Weimar, Zimbabwe, and the rest, are what happens when you hit the Laffer limit on seigniorage.

If you raise it beyond the Laffer limit, you do not immediately discover you have hit the Laffer limit. It takes many years. So of all taxes, the seigniorage tax is the one where it is hardest to tell if you have passed the Laffer limit. Doom does not set in for a while.

Musk argues we have passed the Laffer limit on seigniorage. He is a smart guy, so maybe he is right. My assessment is we have not hit the Laffer limit, but we have reached the point where it is hurting the economy and ordinary Americans very badly.

The US in in the specially privileged position that the US$ is the one, the international currency, so America gets to export its inflation world wide. And if it continues to export inflation world wide, will continue to be able to print money indefinitely at the current rate. The US was executing a seignorage tax against the entire world. It is now executing a seigniorage tax only against the Global American empire. Should it come to pass, as probably will, that it can only execute the seignorage tax against its own citizens, then we are far past the Laffer Limit, and Zimbabwe like inflation will ensue. In this sense I agree with Musk. But even if I am right and Musk is wrong, (and betting against Musk usually turns out badly) we agree that the money printing, the seigniorage tax, is hurtful and dangerous.

The Cominator says:

America has not been run primarily by high IQ white men for a long time either. Being run by a coalition of women, professional minorities (many which are niggers), gays, midwit moonbat academics, bureuacrats, lawyers, moonbat dem donors and with the Jesuits intervening behind the scenes from time to time… there is probably more average intelligence than with niggers but probably also much more pure insanity.

V. K. Ovelund says:

D.S.: I think that you are engaging in a debate with someone who is not present. I gather that you do not care for my style, but I am not your foil.

Fidelis says:

inflation is chiefly caused by too much money in circulation

Inflation is a rise in prices that occurs when there is a growing supply of currency available to chase a pool of goods that cannot grow to match.

The GAE experiences significant inflation, but of course it is not an even rise in all prices. Similarly, when grilling a steak, the meat does not rise in temperature uniformly. Goods that the class closest to the proverbial money printer have the easiest access to inflate fastest and hardest. Do you wish to argue the GDP and stock market is rising from productivity growth? The A in GAE as well has the unique position of being able to siphon off the wealth of all its vassals and exchange partners by abusing its reserve status network effect. The EUrocrats and asian vassals back their own fiat in USD, and when the FED prints, face devaluation of their reserve, so sell more of their funny money to buy their imperial masters cuckbux.

V. K. Ovelund says:

Fidelis:

Do you wish to argue the GDP and stock market is rising from productivity growth?

No. Real U.S. productivity—in manufacturing, mining, agriculture, forestry, fishing, construction, transportation and the like—is moderately high and does indeed grow, but I would be more likely to argue the opposite of the position you mention. Much of U.S. GDP is irrelevant or fake and, at the moment, U.S. stock prices are probably in a once-in-a-generation market bubble.

The rest of your answer looks pretty accurate to me.

Jim says:

> Real U.S. productivity—in manufacturing, mining, agriculture, forestry, fishing, construction, transportation and the like—is moderately high and does indeed grow,

Real US productivity in real goods that can be measured is falling like a stone. Construction? I have done construction and the walls are closing in on construction. Transportation? The old transport hubs and warehousing hubs like New York and the port of San Francisco are dying, as people go to ever more elaborate and indirect lengths to bypass them, because overrun by plains apes and thieving quasi governmental organisations. People are flying stuff in and out that should be shipped in and out in order to avoid the obstacle course of bureaucrats, businesses on the revolving door between regulators and regulated, white collar criminals, and plain old fashioned smash an grab criminals. That is not higher productivty.

Neurotoxin says:

Would you agree that inflation is chiefly caused by too much money in circulation? If so, and if too much is in circulation, and if you’d entertain a Socratic question, then how does the federal government remove the excess money from circulation?

For the “Socratic question,” the answer is “They don’t, generally.” These things usually have a one-way ratchet effect.

A note: The link to the M1 measure of money in this quote (I didn’t embed the link when I blockquoted it) could be misleading. M1 went through a definitional change right where it rockets upward (May 2020) and that accounts for the rocketing. This is noted in the data description at the link; just scroll down. In saying this I am not denying that the Fed has been printing up money hand over fist since at least the housing recession of 2008. They did, it was excessive, and we eventually saw an increase in inflation.

But it didn’t print $11.4 trillion in one month. (From $4.8 trillion in April 2020 to $16.2 trillion in May 2020.)

Daddy Scarebucks says:

Real U.S. productivity—in manufacturing, mining, agriculture, forestry, fishing, construction, transportation and the like—is moderately high and does indeed grow

Hilarious. Just to take the most obvious–and egregious–example, of construction:

– Five Decades of Decline: U.S. Construction Sector Productivity (2025, FRB Richmond)
– The Strange and Awful Path of Productivity in the US Construction Sector (2023, University of Chicago/NBER)
– Reinventing Construction: A Route to Higher Productivity (2017, MGI)

Now of course, these are all namefags, so they like to dance around the real issues affecting construction, but even the hardcore diversity-is-our-strength, best-economy-evah shills like McKinsey (MGI) can’t even try to hide the fact that construction is, and has for a long time been in the toilet.

Whether you trust the sources or not, these are admissions against interest, and I don’t think I’ve ever seen a halfway decent study claiming to show the contrary–that construction productivity is good/decent and steadily improving. Even the BLS, which intentionally only goes back a few decades and straight-up lies in order to spike the figures for e.g. industrial building, shows some extremely depressing charts for single-family homes and civilian infrastructure like bridges and highways.

There’s no way that anyone can say what you just said, with a straight face, unless they live in a bubble. Jim has even discussed the specific problems affecting construction quite recently, and I can confirm his findings personally; it takes months or years of finding and cajoling the right politically-connected or guild-licensed people just to be able to lay a single brick or slab of concrete. The industry is infested with bureaucratic parasites and the infestation only ever grows, and many if not most of the “real” “productive” U.S. industries are in a similar state.

V. K. Ovelund says:

D.S.: If you merely wish to insult me, then reply by me serves little purpose. I had been unaware of the construction studies you cite, though.

One suspects that you are sincere, so for your own good, ease off the extremely online nonsense a bit. Assuming that I am not a Fed (you’ll have to make up your own mind about this), I’m just a guy. If you and I worked for the same employer, we’d probably get along fine.

Even persons far from Neoreaction (or whatever it is that the regulars at this salon call the philosophy the blog promotes) can see that the news is fake, but this does not mean that random pseudonymous persons performing ad hoc thought experiments online are a more reliable source of hard data than the Federal Reserve and the Department of Commerce are.

Jim says:

> This does not mean that random pseudonymous persons performing ad hoc thought experiments online are a more reliable source of hard data than the Federal Reserve and the Department of Commerce are.

On the contrary, we know the Federal Reserve and Department of commerce are lying, that they hate us, and they want us dead. They want to eradicate legacy americans and replace us all with third world peasants living in grinding poverty, while we do not know the random pseudonymous person is lying, and we can tell whether he hates us, wishes us dead, our children dead, and everything we have built destroyed.

So every random pseudonymous person is a more reliable source than the Fed.

And I am not giving you thought experiments. I am giving you my lived experience of collapsing productivity in construction and distribution, and I also see poverty soaring all around me at first hand.

Daddy Scarebucks says:

for your own good

Really now… is that concern I hear? Are you concerned about my reputation?

Of course you back off ever so slightly in the face of irrefutable evidence that your claims of productivity are wildly off-base. But will it cause you to reexamine any single one of your preconceptions for even a microsecond?

No, because you’re here with a script. And that script is: debt spending is not a big deal, inflation doesn’t matter, devaluation doesn’t matter, fiscal discipline isn’t important, we can just ignore the empty words of Hayek and Rothbard and the like, because in the long run we’re all dead. It’s the standard KFM/Post-Keynesian script, the standard (modern) Socialism script. We’ve all read it a thousand times and we all recognize it on sight, despite the attempts at deflection and rhetorical sleight of hand.

You think I should lay off, and that we’d get along fine in a hypothetical bar? Okay, then show us you can deviate from your script. For example, you could respond to any of my points or Jim’s points on why socialism (or money printing, or borrowing, or any other form of excessive seigniorage, or however else you want to narrow it down) doesn’t work in the long run, in such a way that actually acknowledges we made the argument, even if you disagree with the conclusion.

V. K. Ovelund says:

Neurotoxin:

I had not noticed the change in M1’s definition. Good point.

I had cited M1 because M1 is the measure of money supply most commonly cited and because I had doubted that many readers wished to read a lengthy explanation by me of why, in the present context,  M0 might be more pertinent. However, since you have prodded me, M1 as far as I know treats money as a bank credit, whereas we were speaking of money as a tax credit—which makes M0 the relevant measure for this discussion.

The key point about M0 is that, by definition, it excludes money in the U.S. Treasury General Account (TGA) and excludes bank credit. Other measures too exclude the TGA, but M0 is the narrowest measure and, since tax collections flow into the Treasury they pretty much directly reduce bank reserves unless and until—if I understand correctly—the Fed executes repurchase agreements to compensate.

Fortunately M0 does not appear to have been redefined in 2020; and you are right: the jump in M0 in 2020 was less dramatic than the jump in M1 was.

V. K. Ovelund says:

Jim:

Then you and I have one or two things in common: construction and distribution.

I suppose that neither of us can prove that he is a licensed building contractor. The namefags have an advantage over us on this point. My own lived experience suggests that it is plausible, even probable, that construction productivity has indeed declined as you say.

However, anecdotally, construction productivity has not been all that great for at least 40 years, which puts it back a bit. I cannot agree with you that construction productivity has collapsed. Buildings still get built—seldom on schedule, perhaps, but nevertheless—and once built they seldom fall or burn down.

As far as distribution is concerned, my experience is limited, so I’ll defer to you there. An awful lot of stuff is getting distributed in the United States these days, though. Distribution prices are reasonable and—as long as there are no, ahem, negroes around to make off with one’s parcel while the doorbell camera watches—the parcels nearly always arrive, and usually even on time. Freight, too, as far as I know. So, collapse? Maybe, but I don’t see it.

As for federal data, I use it a lot, and find zero evidence that the system is pervasively lying to me. Sorry. When the system tells me that, say, architects make $91,000 a year in Des Moines, or that Oregon has issued X number of new single-family-home construction permits during the past quarter, why, when I go to Des Moines or to Oregon, that’s consistent with what I see.

Does the system hate me and want me dead, as you say? No idea. If I were not under the general impression that many persons in positions of bureaucratic state authority hate me then I would hardly be reading your blog, but I do not actually know anyone who works for the Department of Commerce. All I know is that I must respond to the Department’s mandatory business surveys from time to time, and that the data the Department publishes seems to be good.

Why do you think that they’re pervasively lying to you? Not the fake news. I mean the Department of Commerce, the Federal Reserve and the like?

While you are considering the question, may I point out that, when it comes to SEC, SIPC, FDIC and the like (not to mention the aforementioned Deparment of Commerce and , they all seem pretty fanatical about publishing ledgers of everything they do. We’re not talking about the Department of the Navy or USAID, after all. The SEC and so forth are financial people. Do you remember when Blackrock made off with $400 billion from the Treasury during the COVID panic? Everyone was distracted by the prospect of individual stimulus payments and paycheck-protection loans at the time but, if one knew where to look, Blackrock’s scam was all published online in real time, unclassified and in the open. (After Ellen Brown drew attention to the scam I dredged up the federal sources for myself, right from this very keyboard. The scam was explained in bland, technical, nonalarming language, but it was all there.) Do you remember Silicon Valley Bank? Same thing.

Jim, for the most part, as a practical matter, the data’s good.

Jim says:

> Buildings still get built

Compare what is built now in the west with what was built during the sixties and seventies.

And compare with what is built outside the west: Compare the bridges, the skyscrapers, the dams, the railroads, the train stations.

When you travel, everywhere you go, you necessarily see the major airport. Compare those major airports with our major airports.

Jim says:

> I find zero evidence that the system is pervasively lying to me.

I look at fed data and I find overwhelming evidence that the system is pervasively lying to me.

Recall Musk and Doge’s complaints about federal accounting. They were auditing the presidency, not the fed, but they found plenty of evidence that the presidency is pervasively lying to the people and the president.

It might well be “true” in the way that there was absolutely no outright lying in the Enron accounts, yet the Enron accounts were a lie nontheless, even though every single fact in those accounts was, taken in isolation, technically a literal truth, but these literal truths were fitted into misleading contexts to produce a lie, like assembling a ransom note by cutting letters out of newspaper headlines.

The Fed’s accounts look like the product of such a cut and paste job.

There are no end of mystery categories and entries that give them a free hand to generate anything they like. The plumbing is over complicated in ways that give them the opportunity to hide, obfuscate, and misdirect, and the usual reason for such arcane accounting is that they have things that need to be hidden and obfuscated. The fed’s accounts look like the Enron accounts. Enron’s accounts smelled funny, and the Fed’s accounts smell funny.

In war, the first casualty is truth. These people intend to kill us and everyone like us and destroy everything we built and our ancestors built. Obviously they are going to lie to us.

Jim says:

> they all seem pretty fanatical about publishing ledgers of everything they do.

Enron was fanatical about publishing ledgers of everything they do. The federal government not so much. Recall Musk’s adventures at the treasury.

With the best will in the world, it is hard enough to generate accurate books for one’s own activities, books that I use only internally and never show to any outsider. I do this primarily for my own information, to see how things are going and what activities are worth doing. I give a somewhat truthful version of information generated from these books to my accountant, who generates a barely recognisable version for the government, which he seems confident is legal, though I find its legality surprising. With the worst will in the world, there is a lot of room for creativity.

Assuming the Fed is as scrupulous as Enron, that leaves a lot of room for creativity. Let us more plausibly assume they are as scrupulous as the Department of Treasury, then there is a lot more room for creativity.

Pax Imperialis says:

>Compare what is built now in the west with what was built during the sixties and seventies.
>And compare with what is built outside the west

Relevant cope.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22778499

Daddy Scarebucks says:

these literal truths were fitted into misleading contexts to produce a lie

Hell, just look at the inflation figures they kept posting during the Biden regime. Every year, a trite 2-3%, nothing really, the economy is doing great; meanwhile, everyone with eyes can see that the price of lumber has doubled, the price of eggs has tripled, the price of graphics cards has quintupled, and so on and so forth.

Did they just lie, and make up the 2% out of thin air? Not exactly. They use a very precise model that is very carefully calibrated and tuned to tell them exactly what they want to hear/say. Adjust X, revise Y, do a linear regression for Z, exclude P because reasons, increase the weighting of Q, such is the “consumer price index” and other types of federal paperwork.

Or as Briggs might put it, the reports are not actually the data, they are the output of models based on that data, and a model will say whatever the modeler wants it to say. Those $300/hr lawyers are still charging $300/hr, ergo no inflation!

You can do the same magic trick with wages, prove there’s no wage stagnation by oversampling/overweighting the blue state “professional services” AKA the parasitic FIRE economy as well as some jobs in what we laughably call medicine and maybe tech. Most people still can’t even afford a decent car, let alone a house, despite the fact that the houses and cars on the market are all inferior quality to what was available fifty years ago (or literally the same stock from fifty years ago), but hey, you got the number you wanted.

The Soviets had real data to back their five-year plans, too. Everything was totally legitimate and correct, on paper. It just did not correspond to any observable reality.

Jim says:

> The Soviets had real data to back their five-year plans, too. Everything was totally legitimate and correct, on paper. It just did not correspond to any observable reality.

Observable reality is the Freedom Tower in place of the two towers. You look the two towers and then at the freedom tower, and you have to say, rich country, poor country.

I saw San Francisco turn to shit, and Ovelund tells me we are getting richer?

V. K. Ovelund says:

Jim:

You and I are talking about two different things. The money USAID and the Department of the Navy waste flows through Treasury. I get it.

I was talking about monetary operations.

I guess that one could argue that the monetary system could be simplified, but it got to be the way it is for historical reasons, and one could equally argue that, if it works, one should not mess with it. I am well aware that my implied assertion that “it works” will provoke howls of indignation from some, but I don’t really know what to say about this. One reads that, up through the Great Depression, we used to have terrible depressions in the United States with 20 percent unemployment or more; and then you have William Jennings Bryan and his Cross of Gold. Neither of us was around then, so we are probably both missing context, but not everything is falling apart today. The monetary system at any rate is not falling apart, at least not that anyone that grasps how it works can tell.

I mean, maybe, the system is secretly teetering on the brink of collapse and the rot runs so deep, no one can see it all. However, people that do not grasp how the system works (which includes, like, 98 percent of Americans) have been saying the same ever since Nixon closed the gold window. At some point, one stops listening to Cassandra.

Dedollarization poses a challenge, but the U.S. has bigger problems that pose a greater threat.

I don’t know how lengthy a reply you want. Your point about Laffer answers chiefly to federal spending, which is hard to pare down when most of the money goes to Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, ACA subsidies, highway construction and defense. Yes, I’d like the government to spend less, but on what, exactly? So if you want to contain inflation, you need higher tax rates and more robust IRS enforcement.

But the government doesn’t need your money. The government can always print more. When I take my savings out of the proverbial mattress and cart the cash down to the Treasury to buy a note, the Treasury thanks me for my patriotic contribution, issues me a receipt, smiles, and then—once I have walked out the door, pleased with my thrift—shreds the cash. The function of taxation in a fiat system is not to raise money for the sovereign but to contain inflation by retiring enough money from supply to keep prices in check. The other principal function of taxation is to anchor the dollar in its role as the default currency of domestic transactions, for, if no one needed a dollar to pay taxes with, then soon no one would want a dollar for any purpose, and we’d all soon be using Jimcoins or, more likely, gold, or even more likely, euros or renminbi.

There are a heck of a lot of questions one could answer on the topic. I know some of the answers; don’t know others. In view of your oft-illustrated commitment to crypto, one doubts that you and I are likely to agree at every point, but if there were some particular additional point you’d like me to address, I’d try.

Jim says:

> You and I are talking about two different things. The money USAID and the Department of the Navy waste flows through Treasury. I get it.

> I was talking about monetary operations.

And the Fed’s accounting for monetary operations looks very like Enron’s infamous accounts — designed to be opaque, incomprehensible, difficult to interpret, and difficult to pin down what is going on.

> But the government doesn’t need your money. The government can always print more.

There is a limit. And when that limit is exceeded, and Musk argues it has already been exceeded, you are heading into a Zimbabwe situation, where the government can print as much money as it wants, but cannot buy as much as it wants no matter how much it prints. It is already printing enough to seriously screw up the economy and significantly diminish confidence in the future value of the dollar, hence what is happening with shares, gold, and Bitcoin.

Reduction in propensity to keep fiat money around means that a given amount of deficit leads to a higher amount of inflation, or equivalently, a given amount of inflation gets the government less seigniorage tax.

The trouble with the seigniorage tax is that you get people increasingly evading the seigniorage tax by not holding fiat dollars, or only holding them for as short a time as possible — which leads to them finding ways to not transact in fiat dollars. Minimising holdings of fiat dollars is stage one, and we are already in stage one. Minimising holdings of fiat dollars makes it less convenient to transact in fiat dollars, which leads to stage two, minimising transacting in fiat dollars. We are not yet in stage two, but Musk is arguing we will be getting there if the deficit continues at current levels.

As people discover that holding fiat is a bad idea, they will hold less fiat, which means our current deficit will cause more inflation that it is already causing, and as people adjust to that higher level of inflation, they will hold fiat even less.

In a Zimbabwe situation, people use gold and goods for money — clothes washing powder for small transactions, weighed gold for larger transactions, and Bitcoin for sophisticated transactions. The government offers someone a trillion dollars for a carton of eggs, and gets knocked back, because the egg supplier has lost track of whether eggs should trade for a billion, a trillion, or a quadrillion.

V. K. Ovelund says:

Observable reality is the Freedom Tower in place of the two towers. You look the two towers and then at the freedom tower, and you have to say, rich country, poor country.

Probably. I rode the two towers’ elevator up to the observation deck once as a teenager but do not remember details. I have not been to New York since 9/11, so cannot comment on the Freedom Tower.

I saw San Francisco turn to shit, and Ovelund tells me we are getting richer?

San Francisco sucks. She used to have charm. The hard left has wrecked it.

As far as getting richer goes, wealth in the United States is more concentrated in fewer hands than it used to be, so the number that have gotten substantially richer is fairly small. Consequently, I want a new income tax bracket on incomes over $2 million, and another new bracket over $10 million, and another new bracket over $50 million; and I want the $176,000 income ceiling on social-security contributions abolished, with zero percent to AIME above that. If this includes me, then I’ll pay, because I like Social Security, distrust the 401(k) system, and dislike inflation. As for the new tax brackets, rates of 43, 49 and 55 percent, respectively, should about cover it, along with corresponding increases in the capital gains rate.

But, no, I am disinclined to believe that GDP numbers in the hard productive sectors (manufacturing, distribution, construction, etc.) were largely fake. I am not sure, because GDP numbers are not among the federal statistics I use extensively, but I’d need to see more evidence. As I have said, the federal statistics I do use have invariably held up well.

I probably suffer from what you aptly call normalcy bias, but there is only so much I can do to help this. When the Revolution comes, if I live through its opening months, I shall have to adapt to the new reality as much as everyone else must. Leftists killing everybody including themselves is a real thing: I get this; but many futures are possible and we shall have to see what eventuates in fact. For there will be surprises, even to you.

Jim says:

> I am disinclined to believe that GDP numbers in the hard productive sectors (manufacturing, distribution, construction, etc.) were largely fake.

How do you define the value of what is produced in the hard productive sectors, and compare it to the value of what used to be produced in the hard productive sectors? There is ample room to get creative there, and, notoriously, when calculating CPI, they get absurdly creative. Which leads to rising prices in those sectors being redefined as increasing productivity and production in those sectors. Supposedly Freedom Tower represents more value than the Two Towers.

I can see in front of my eye,s that most Americans are very poor, and I used to see, in front of my eyes, that most Americans were doing fine.

Trump’s nuclear power program is that America should return to producing nuclear reactors at about the rate it did during the nuclear boom, and a lot of analyses ensued that this was just physically not possible. Even if you remove the regulatory obstacles, needs too much concrete, too much steel, too many industrial workers to lay the concrete and weld the steel.

If production and productivity in the hard industrial sectors has risen, why are we seeing these kinds of analyses?

Trump proposes that we engage in a lot of actual hard industrial sector production, and suddenly despite figures showing it is up, we see figures showing it is down.

V. K. Ovelund says:

As people discover that holding fiat is a bad idea, they will hold less fiat….

How will people manage this when (a) they are assessed a capital-gains tax on appreciation with respect to fiat of whatever alternate currency they use and (b) they must acquire fiat to pay taxes?

If Congress were too worried that the dollar were falling out of use domestically, then Congress could just include crypto, gold and whatever under the 28-percent collectibles tax. The bill to do this would be, what, four pages long? Maybe two pages. It wouldn’t take much.

As to Zimbabwe, you will wait long to see the United States resemble Zimbabwe. You speak of lived experience. Lived experience offers little reason to expect Zimbabweans to run a monetary system much better than gorillas could.

Jim says:

> > As people discover that holding fiat is a bad idea, they will hold less fiat….

> How will people manage this when (a) they are assessed a capital-gains tax on appreciation with respect to fiat of whatever alternate currency they use and (b) they must acquire fiat to pay taxes?

You cannot beat the Laffer limit in the long run. In the short run, you certainly can beat it by confiscating assets, which is what you are proposing. This works for about four to ten years, depending on how far you are above the Laffer limit.

Right now the government is exceeding the Laffer limit by inflating away the value of money in the bank, which it can do stealthily, without needing a large apparatus of coercion, and without people noticing for a while.

OK, you say, when fiat gets too much competition from other assets, the government just goes after those other assets. Which is less stealthy, more noticeable, and requires more coercion.

That will work for a while. Historically, it always has worked for a while. But then the government runs into increasing non compliance, its coercion becomes more expensive, more and more destructive, needs more and more coercion to confiscate less and less value while causing more and more damage and disruption. People just hide their wealth, and move their wealth to forms more hideable. Trust and law enforcement collapse. You wind up pouring gasoline over the peasant’s children and lighting them on fire to find where he has buried the seed corn, and then you don’t get all that much seed corn and have used up quite a lot of gasoline.

Neurotoxin says:

Ovelund: “I had cited M1 because M1 is the measure of money supply most commonly cited… [but] M0 might be more pertinent.”

Maybe. What proposition are you arguing for? That inflation is not bad, or that money creation does not cause inflation, or something else?

Also Ovelund (in a different comment): “But the government doesn’t need your money. The government can always print more. When I take my savings out of the proverbial mattress and cart the cash down to the Treasury to buy a note, the Treasury thanks me for my patriotic contribution, issues me a receipt, smiles, and then—once I have walked out the door, pleased with my thrift—shreds the cash.”

No no no. The government borrows money when it sells securities (Treasury bills, notes, and bonds). It doesn’t borrow that money so it can shred it; it borrows that money so it can spend it. Yes, the money sits in some Treasury account for some time, but it is then spent.

If money held by the Treasury in its Fed account is excluded from standard definitions of the money supply, that is a problem with those definitions. You can’t stop inflation by saying “According to the government’s definitions, the stuff they just printed and spent isn’t ‘money.'” Perhaps there is an argument that printing money is not a problem – in some of your comments I detect more than a hint of “Modern Monetary Theory” – but if so, definitions cannot be the main, load-bearing part of such an argument.

Daddy Scarebucks says:

One reads that, up through the Great Depression, we used to have terrible depressions in the United States with 20 percent unemployment or more

Yes, and now we euphemistically refer to them as “reductions in the labor force”. We are nearly always running at far higher than 20% unemployment, but have mastered the art of obfuscating it behind paperwork. Recessions and depressions used to come and go, were somewhat local, and were considered no big deal in the long run; it was only after women got the vote and FDR came into power that depressions got dragged out for years and years and became all-encompassing national crises requiring desperate “intervention”.

not everything is falling apart today

Killer argument, right there. “It could be worse, you know.”

San Francisco sucks. She used to have charm. The hard left has wrecked it.

“The hard left” is a revealing phrase here. None of us have used the “hard” qualifier for a long time, going back to at least 2016, when it became obvious that the Antifa and BLM rioters were being protected by those claiming to be moderates, and the non-physically-violent moderates were happy to wage endless lawfare and other “process is punishment” bureaucratic war on the flimsiest of pretexts. Of course, that goes back much farther than 2016, but 2016 is when everybody got to see it out in the open, and 2020 was when even the most hardened skeptic could no longer deny it.

And yet here you are, once again claiming that it’s just a tiny part of the left that somehow ruined SF all on its lonesome. The rest of the progressive left (i.e. you) bears no responsibility.

Consequently, I want a new income tax bracket on incomes over $2 million

I’ll bet you do. And since you have already expressly stated that “the government does not need your money”, and are no doubt already aware how little impact that tax would have on revenue even if it did need your money, the only possible reason why you would want such a thing is because you hate the productive classes and want to see them suffer.

Left-wing blather about “income equality” or “wealth distribution” doesn’t fool us anymore. The people who are really acquiring wealth unethically and really hoarding it unfairly are not the ones who are acquiring it through normal business channels or reporting it as taxable income. They are politically-connected leftists who get paid to do nothing, or worse, get paid to destroy what other people have built, and find themselves largely exempt from income taxes either through straight-up criminal conduct or elaborate legal loopholes created specially for them. They are the ones allowed to break the rules with impunity, and adding new rules just means they’ll be allowed to break those ones too.

How will people manage [holding less fiat] when (a) they are assessed a capital-gains tax on appreciation with respect to fiat of whatever alternate currency they use and (b) they must acquire fiat to pay taxes?

Are you stupid, or are you just fishing for a confession that you or your supervisors can use in an upcoming prosecution?

Alf says:

Yes, and now we euphemistically refer to them as “reductions in the labor force”. We are nearly always running at far higher than 20% unemployment, but have mastered the art of obfuscating it behind paperwork.

Ooh that’s how that works.

I suppose the reason that the left made a big deal out of this one hundred years ago is because they wanted to implement ‘solutions’ to their own created problems. The reason they no longer care is because they have done so in the form of the welfare system, which makes it so that the chronically unemployed are by nature supporters of the left.

V. K. Ovelund says:

Neurotoxin:

Modern Monetary Theory (MMT), to the extent to which I understand it, is two things. First, it is a description of the banking system (this is the Warren Mosler tier). Second, it is a set of policy prescriptions based on the description of the banking system (this is the Stephanie Kelton tier). I have little comment on the prescriptions but the description is what it is.

Having read only part of Mosler’s book and none of Kelton’s, my knowledge of the topic is limited. Still, more or less, from where I sit, MMT generally looks good to me—especially Mosler’s part of it. Have you another view?

Regarding the shredding of money, I think that you and I could have a splendid conversation about this but we would lose the audience if we tried. Briefly, when the TGA runs dry, the Fed sees to it—via Open Market Operations and repurchase agreements—that the Treasury can, at auction, borrow as much as it requires at a rate that does not far exceed the Fed’s IORB (interest on reserve balances) rate; and the Fed dictates the rate. I assume that, if the Fed balked, then Congress would quickly modify 12 U.S.C. to compel the Fed to unbalk.

Thus, literally, you are right about the shredding but, substantially, I would say that shredding is fair representation of what occurs. (A fine point, but sometimes a significant one, is that the Federal Reserve banks can find themselves in possession of securities due to Open Market Operations. Some of the earnings from these securities are paid as dividends to the private member banks but most of the earnings are simply transferred by the Fed to the Treasury.)

To be clear, I do not assert that the federal government can arbitrarily print without consequence. Far from it. What I assert is that inflation is the signal that tells the federal government that it has printed too much—and, right now, inflation says that the federal government has printed only a little too much.

Debt spirals mainly afflict private borrowers. They don’t much apply to sovereigns whose debt is denominated in their own currencies. Zimbabwe doesn’t count. Elon Musk has been mentioned but Musk (despite his time with PayPal) seems to be a microeconomics guy. We are talking macroeconomics and I have seen little sign that Musk grasps the relevant difference.

Jim says:

> right now, inflation says that the federal government has printed only a little too much.

And yet I can see with my own eyes that most Americans used to be affluent, and now most Americans are poor. I am old. I was around when Americans were affluent. That was a long time ago. Obviously inflation is a great deal higher than a “little too much”. It is a lot too much. Americans have a lot more money than they used to, and yet they have less stuff than they used to.

Hillbilly Elegy is largely about people whose parents and grand parents were affluent growing up poor. It is not just the Appalachian mountains. It is San Francisco.

If productivity and production have increased, why did we get Freedom Tower in place of the Two Towers, and why are we seeing learned analyses that it just not physically possible to build as many nuclear reactors as we once did?

Daddy Scarebucks says:

@Neurotoxin:

I detect more than a hint of “Modern Monetary Theory”

Understatement of the century there. This guy might literally be a fed, not in the “FBI” sense but in the sense of being directly employed by the federal government or one of its cutouts. If not, he surely works for one of those special accounting or law firms blessed by the fed to do its dirty work.

Where else could you find someone who knows all the ins and outs of MMT but not a scrap of classical, literary or Austrian economics, who admits to working with government-issued figures all day and trusts them completely, who is absolutely positive that reality operates exactly like the theory says it should, and whose seething hatred of the people who do real work is always carefully concealed behind a mask of concern and low-energy snark?

Only other possibility would be a university, but his prose isn’t quite rarefied enough to present as an academic.

Fidelis says:

You wind up pouring gasoline over the peasant’s children and lighting them on fire to find where he has buried the seed corn, and then you don’t get all that much seed corn.

I see this as even more likely than tranny pol pot. It would go roughly like so:

– Don ousted as his focus on having a real economy hurts the fake economy, and enough of the most lukewarm of his backers flip.
– Sudden reign of terror, ended by a true Stalin type figure, someone much more convinced of the strength of the US economy and the utility of gays — not trans, just gays — except of course all the gays he has to purge. Those were the bad ones.
– Goes back to stimulus bills, an order of magnitude bigger than 2020. Things begin to break.
– Blames tech, crypto, “landlords”, and middle class whites
– Cannibalizes everything to maintain appearances, until all that’s left is canned goods and bullets to keep the cops working.

V. K. Ovelund says:

If productivity and production have increased, why did we get Freedom Tower in place of the Two Towers, and why are we seeing learned analyses that it just not physically possible to build as many nuclear reactors as we once did?

I do not know.

Neurotoxin says:

To be clear, I do not assert that the federal government can arbitrarily print without consequence. Far from it. What I assert is that inflation is the signal that tells the federal government that it has printed too much—and, right now, inflation says that the federal government has printed only a little too much.

(1) The way to keep inflation under control is not to let it get too high and then say “Whoops, we’d better reverse course!” It is much easier to keep inflation under control in the first place, than to let it get out of control and then slam on the brakes and try to reverse course.

(2) The last time I checked, which was a few weeks ago, inflation was exactly at the Fed’s official target of 2% per year. You might think a higher level of inflation is desirable, but that calls for a supporting argument. There are people who think that 2% per year is too high.

(3) Plenty of people don’t trust the Fed’s numbers and think that the reality is already higher than 2% anyway.

V. K. Ovelund says:

Neurotoxin: That’s about the shape of it. The conventional macroeconomic wisdom is that inflation needs to be just high enough to forestall the price-induced idling of productive resources. As far as I know, the conventional macroeconomic wisdom is correct in this. I have nothing to add to it.

Jim says:

This theory seems to be markedly more popular among those first in line for freshly printed money.

Daddy Scarebucks says:

For anyone else who’s feeling the bile on the tip of their tongue from all this credulous discussion of KFM/MMT nonsense, here is some classic Moldbug to wash it down:

De gustibus non computandum: or, economics needs a divorce

Written nearly 20 years ago, at the peak of the Great Minority Mortgage Meltdown, although based on a lot of source material that was published decades earlier.

I’m sure that the Vapid Kike won’t read it, or even acknowledge that it exists, but it should be required reading for anyone wanting to discuss economics in this space. (Except for the wonks already directly familiar with the Austrian School’s seminal works; they get a pass if they want to skip the executive summary.)

Fidelis says:

The love of inflation has never been coherently justified.

“Lets set the money on fire so people wont hold it.”
“But won’t that reduce trust in anything and everything having to do with our currency?”
“Hmmmm, maybe if we just let it smoulder slowly…”

I am jesting, but only slightly. One should invest for a return, not because they are going to lose their savings if they do not. You are turning up the velocity of money in exchange for reducing its value as a medium, a measure, and a store. Terrible deal. People that managed to grab lots of cash almost never just sit on it, they invest it, or speculate with it, unless they are anticipating a recession and cheap assets as everyone overlevered loses their shirt, then they hold on to it and help the recovery process. Now, there can be no economic cycle, there can only be cheaper and cheaper credit until you’ve cannibalized the entire system chasing fake numbers. The GDP goes up as real capital, i.e. nice things like beautiful buildings to live in and futuristic factories to make your drones and artillery shells, gets sold off to buy fake paper assets.

The problem looks almost a bit worse than coup complete. Even after the coup, gotta pay the cops and soldiers somehow. Maybe something like a bitcoin standard might work, but this is like taking a man that’s been in low gravity for years and having him return to earth. No one knows how long, if ever, it will be before he can stand on his own again.

Daddy Scarebucks says:

The love of inflation has never been coherently justified.
[…]
One should invest for a return, not because they are going to lose their savings if they do not.

Indeed, even if one believes the government’s make-believe inflation figures without reservation, one is still compelled to ask: why, exactly, is the “ideal” inflation rate set at 2-3%, and not zero?

After all, if productivity is increasing, and the amount of money in circulation remains the same, then you have the same amount of money being spent on more goods, or better goods; the currency is thus worth more, relative to the goods being purchased. That is deflationary.

And this deflation, at least in a very local sense, is what it often looks like to the consumer when productivity is visibly and provably rising; goods and services actually get cheaper, as during the peak of the Moore’s Law years when personal computers went from costing thousands of dollars for gen-X hardware to mere hundreds for gen-(X+n) hardware a decade later. Better and cheaper. So too with mobile communication, at least until the smartphone era, which we could argue was really an entirely new product.

Or if anyone is tempted to declare silicon tech as an aberration, consider the decline in airfare costs after the 1978 deregulation, and the fact that the average cost of any length of flight (domestic, transatlantic or transpacific) today is still about the same today as it was in 1980 in actual dollars–not “inflation adjusted” dollars, I mean that a fare costing $300 in 1980s dollars is still about $300 today, give or take. Notwithstanding the much more recent problems at Boeing etc., air travel up to 2010 or so was another visible example of productivity going up, or at least not going down very much.

When tuition fees balloon from hundreds of dollars to tens of thousands over a few decades, or hospital bills balloon from thousands to millions, that is the aberration. We are all conditioned to view it instinctively as the norm instead: of course something that cost ten cents in the 1950s will cost ten dollars now, why wouldn’t it? But that is not normal at all, and would be a serious and terrifying problem if it were not being cushioned by the USD’s dominance as a global reserve.

It is actually absurd how well all of us, myself included, are conditioned to think this way; when was the last time you heard or read about some historical price and didn’t wonder “but what is that in today’s dollars?” Breaking that conditioning is very, very hard.

There is only one rational way to understand a 2-3% “target” inflation rate, and Jim already gave that answer implicitly in another post: it’s a tax, specifically a type of seigniorage, and 2-3% represents what the sovereign believes is the Laffer limit for that tax, before people start to panic and switch to other currencies (or plain old bartering) in significant numbers.

But the fact that nobody really wants to hold dollars, nobody stuffs dollar bills under the mattress anymore, everybody feels the need to “invest” their money even if they have no understanding of what that means or where to invest, and all that despite the fact that bank and treasury rates are still much higher than the declared inflation rate, very strongly suggests that either the arbitrary target is already far in excess of the Laffer limit, or that actual real-world economic behavior of real people does not track the reported figure at all.

Of course the tax collector is going to claim that inflation is low and actually good for us, just as the tax collector will claim that income tax or sales tax is no burden at all and is actually good for us. What the tax collector means is that it’s good for him and whomever else gets the proceeds, and that you and I should shut up about it because we don’t have a choice in the matter. Which is all well and good, and we are all normal rational law-abiding citizens who pay our taxes. But surely none of us are dumb enough to believe the tax collector; we don’t pay because taxes are wonderful, we pay because it keeps us out of jail.

P.S. anyone who can do simple math can easily show that even 50 years of price inflation at 2% does not yield a hundred-fold or even a tenfold increase in price. It is roughly a tripling or quadrupling. You can almost (not quite) twist an “average” 2-3% inflation to explain how a Big Mac went from 50 cents in 1960 to $4 in 2010 (a 700% rise), but not how the median home price rose from $12,000 to over $400,000 (a 3300% rise). Yet somehow, year after year, the official figures always say that it is exactly between 2 and 3%. It’s a stone cold mystery.

V. K. Ovelund says:

Neurotoxin: I have appreciated the colloquy. In view of the proprietor’s keen interest in monetary problems, I suspect that the subject will come up again. Until then, your word stands as the last word.

V. K. Ovelund says:

Fidelis: As I said to Neurotoxin, I am pretty sure that the subject will be discussed again. We need not resolve all points today and, meanwhile, I should resist the temptation to beat the subject into the ground, so to speak. Your last point is worthwhile and can stand without further argument by me.

V. K. Ovelund says:

Sorry, Jim, I had missed your last comment but see it now.

This theory seems to be markedly more popular among those first in line for freshly printed money.

And I am not too proud to get in line.

As to the theory, I lack a single, well written, cogent, recent source to support it. Everything one reads just sort of seems to take the theory for granted. However, if I may go back as far as 1923, you have Alfred Marshall’s Money, Credit and Commerce, pages 18–20.

Don’t expect anything brilliant if you choose to follow my hyperlink. Marshall was not an eminent mover of intellectual currents as far as I know and he was British, to boot, whereas you and I have been discussing the United States. However, Marshall did have the advantage of living under a hard-money regime during his youth and witnessing, in real time, the beginning of the regime’s end. To skim three pages of his thus might be worth your time.

Jim says:

Marshal correctly argues that changes in the value of money screw up planning, disrupt business, and cause people to make mistakes.

How do we get from that to “Inflation is good, so we should print more money”?

He complains that the hard money regime did not result in a stable value of money, there were fluctuations up, and fluctuations down.

well, the soft money regime definitely solved the fluctuations up.

V. K. Ovelund says:

Marshal correctly argues that changes in the value of money screw up planning, disrupt business, and cause people to make mistakes.

How do we get from that to “Inflation is good, so we should print more money”?

I would put it this way: deflation is pernicious and, thus, a modest inflation affords a necessary safety margin; therefore, we should print enough money to maintain the margin.

He complains that the hard money regime did not result in a stable value of money, there were fluctuations up, and fluctuations down.

well, the soft money regime definitely solved the fluctuations up.

I would say that you have answered your own question. The soft money regime has solved the fluctuations up.

I have no answer to your other point, regarding the decline of the American standard of living. For me, the decline is hard to separate from the ordinary, inevitable, personal decline of advancing age, whereas one’s material standard may rise with the ordinary arc of career. My standard has risen, at any rate, even as youth has faded, alas. This is all unremarkable and boring, but I mention it because one cannot board a plane to fly back 30 years to compare then to now. Absent the plane, memory is tricky.

This leaves one to rely on statistics, which you say are unreliable. Maybe you are right.

My adult sons have volunteered their impressions that it’s probably worse now, and wherever they got this idea, I do not believe that they got it from me. My sons however do not remember 30 years ago at all, so who can say?

Jim says:

Well this argument is that an increase in the value of money is enormously more terrible than a decrease in the value of money — but this does not follow His argument is that the value of money should be stable, not an argument that an increase in the value of money is the worst thing in the world, and a decrease is no problem.

Fidelis says:

deflation is pernicious and, thus, a modest inflation affords a necessary safety margin;

Once again, the hatred of monetary value rising is not sufficiently explained. The conventional answer I get is always some version of “but what if people just hold on to their money forever.” This would indeed be a problem in the class that is flush with cash, but in practice this never happens. Interest rates on credit trend down, price on commodities trends down, technology, the subject value of the product from clothes to home and all in between, trended upwards, and yet the wealthy end up handing money to men whom put capital to use productively regardless.

No I suspect like everything else coming from this particular class, the reasoning was illegitimate but the stated goals were truthful. The purpose of inflation is to prevent the low and middle from accumualating money. It works, the low and middle have gotten excessively more poor at an accelerating rate since at least the Nixon era.

V. K. Ovelund says:

Once again, the hatred of monetary value rising is not sufficiently explained. The conventional answer I get is always some version of “but what if people just hold on to their money forever.”

Maybe, but you didn’t hear this explanation from me.

Marshall is no authority of great stature but I thought his explanation pretty good on this particular question. His original is better than any answer I am likely to give.

V. K. Ovelund says:

Fidelis:

You and Jim have independently raised related points:

The purpose of inflation is to prevent the low and middle from accumulating money.

Jim’s way of approaching the matter has been to mention seniorage.

It may be an effect of inflation to prevent the low and middle from accumulating money, but I do not believe that this can be the purpose of inflation. If it were the purpose, there would not be 12 C.F.R. 204.10(b)(1):

… the interest on reserve balances rate (&ldquo:IORB rate”) … is 4.4 percent

(I think it’s now 4.15 percent. Government-shutdown furlough may have left the quoted, web-facing copy of C.F.R. out of date.)
Arbitrage forces the four-week bill to track IORB pretty closely as far as I know. Consequently, today’s auction has put the four-week bill at 4.099 percent.

Any American, low, middle or high, with a checking account and enough continence to tie up his cash four weeks can buy a bill at TreasuryDirect.gov. That 4.099 percent represents inverse seniorage.

One might object that the 4.099 percent comes from the Treasury and therefore represents not seniorage but federal debt. The objection is right on its face but arbitrage against IORB is the underlying dynamic. The 4.4 (or 4.15) percent for IORB comes out of thin air. The Fed just prints it.

I do not mean to be overly technical, and am certainly no financial specialist, but mention the details because the details matter here.

Jim says:

> It may be an effect of inflation to prevent the low and middle from accumulating money, but I do not believe that this can be the purpose of inflation. If it were the purpose, there would not be 12 C.F.R. 204.10(b)(1):

No one except the big institutions that are the first in line for freshly printed money keeps their cash in four week bills. It is not really practical for the low and middle. (And they make sure it is not practical) There are a bunch of little obstacles and little costs. If someone is going to invest his cash short term, it is more convenient, as well as more lucrative, to invest in an index fund or a gold fund

Fidelis says:

This is not particularly responsive. Marshall’s qualms about deflation amount to “but if people don’t spend their money there is a (temporary) drop in production and (temporary) market slowdown.” To which I say, “good.” This is creative destruction, genuinely so. Most importantly, the going out of the tide allows inefficient, stagnant, wasteful, and impulsively leveraged firms to die off. While it allows patient, far seeing men to accumulate capital. When you prevent the tides from ever going out, you prevent the zombie corporations from ever dissolving, and the total productivity and innovation in your economy falls to zero. Tell me, which is a more productive corporation, IBM or Apple? Should not IBM be allowed to dissolve, so other corporations may make use of the talent currently locked up in a “dead” firm?

That’s my explanation of why Marshall is not making a very compelling argument for intentionally increasing money supply at the first hint of a slowdown in money velocity. For seigniorage, while Jim’s term is technically accurate, denotationally correct, I would like to assert it lacks the emotional valence necessary to get a proper gut check on what is happening in reality. Seigniorage makes it feel as if the Spanish are weighing their coins a bit lighter than last year, while what all these fiat currency systems are doing is absolutely flooding the market with cash at every turn. Its like the Spanish didn’t even bother weighing silver, and started passing out seashells, a difference in degree has created a difference in kind.

So when you start talking about what is an insignificant market, it’s not that you are drowning us in technical detail, it’s that you are adding irrelevant detail. I claimed the purpose of the inflation regime is to loot the low and middle, because this has been the net effect. The low and middle earn income from trading labor, which means wages, which are sticky, as your man Marshall had stated. The high by and large earn income, when they earn their income and do not extort the middle via regulatory fiefdoms, from capital investments. Capital investments end up properly priced, being more liquid and having better relationships with banks and bank-like institutions that distribute the new cash, and so the net effect is a rise in dollar denominated terms. Take note that the Argentina stock market hasn’t had a bad decade, while the country went from income standards higher than Europe to something everyone mocks.

V. K. Ovelund says:

No one except the big institutions that are the first in line for freshly printed money keeps their cash in four week bills.

I have cash in eight- and 26-week bills right now. That’s not the four-week bill, but it’s the same difference.

It was easy.

Jim says:

> It was easy.

Yes it is easy for a moderately sophisticated investor. I am a moderately sophisticated investor, and it was not worth the my time, my effort, and my money and not very many people in my shoes do it — partly because most people in my shoes do not believe the official inflation rate, partly because the management cost, the time, thought, and trouble, is not worth it for short term federal debt. Lots of people in my shoes, probably the ever diminishing fraction that believe official inflation numbers, do invest in long term federal debt, because the management cost is proportionately less. But, for ordinary well off, sophisticated, investors, short term federal debt is stupid.

And if you invest in it, you are in the bubble, what Based Camp calls the urban monoculture.

You are obviously not a shill, because responsive, but sometimes, like a shill, you are unresponsive because you take for granted that everyone believes what those inside the bubble believe.

A sophisticated investor who also browses the supermarket shelves when considering what he will instruct his wife to make for dinner is unlikely to believe official inflation numbers.

Daddy Scarebucks says:

Maybe, but you didn’t hear this explanation from me.

And there it is, the first flagrant, open lie. And I quote:

The conventional macroeconomic wisdom is that inflation needs to be just high enough to forestall the price-induced idling of productive resources. As far as I know, the conventional macroeconomic wisdom is correct in this.

You people can never keep your stories straight.

Fidelis says:

You people can never keep your stories straight.

I would attribute this to never being challenged, and facing an unfamiliar prose. This particular poster has an east coast style: focused on implied credentials and authority, flowery, jargon filled, yet somehow light on information density. We have a prose here that is very dense in information, yet intentionally light on jargon and poetry. If you’ve spent more time reading the NYT and other rags than you have scouring internet comment sections looking for the tiniest nuggets of insight, the structural patterns you rely on to glean information are ill formed.

He seems to be attempting responsiveness, and considing our contemporary situation, a dialog on the nature of money is useful discussion. A member of the audience might find utility in seeing the old excuses for loose monetary policy get strongly criticized, even if our interlocutor finds himself ultimately unconvinced.

Daddy Scarebucks says:

This is not particularly responsive.

Did you expect otherwise? This “debate” has all the features of a pre-2008 socialist lecture, before the progressive left went all in on intersectionality, but long after they stopped listening to anything the other side had to say. It comes off as more polite than the SJW version, “I don’t have time to educate you”, but it is fundamentally the same substance.

VK: “Productivity is fine and getting better.”
Us: “Productivity is in the toilet and getting worse, here are half a dozen industry examples and several studies showing it, including some from government/academic sources you would consider trustworthy.”
VK: “Meh, don’t care. [Pretends that the debate never happened.]”

VK: “Conventional macroeconomics [actually KFM] says inflation is good.”
Us: “Inflation is a tax and an economic drag, here are several reasons why and sources explaining why the KFM theory is wrong and nonsensical.”
VK: “You just don’t understand economics, here is what the theory says.”
Us: “We know what the theory says; the theory is trash, and doesn’t play out in reality.”
VK: “[Posts more inane KFM jargon, ignoring objections]”

I don’t know–we (well, you guys) are treating this as if it’s coming from some normie/boomer con who’s just accustomed to thinking in KFM terms from a lifetime of habit, and with some effort could be brought around. Maybe you are right. What I see is someone whose income literally depends on it–and the one and only thing I’ll give him credit for is admitting that fact outright–and who is absolutely true-believing progressive left, does not have a single right-wing bone in his body or thought in his head, has no discernible reason to want to be here, introduced himself as “national socialist” because he thinks it’s “socialism for right-wingers”, and has no intention of budging one inch on any of these issues.

I don’t see any responsive replies, I see replies that pretend to be responsive in the way all leftists used to do it before the woke era, replies that duly acknowledge the literal words you spoke/wrote but ignore all of their substance, and instead use it as a jumping-off point to tell you more of their opinion or just spray squid ink.

All the replies adopt the frame that that we are uneducated rubes who aren’t aware of simple instruments like T-bills (despite adopting the shopworn “but I’m no expert” cliche, which masks condescension as humility), as opposed to people who learned all that stuff twenty or thirty years ago and eventually arrived at the conclusion that it was all a crock of shit.

Reminder, he said this:

…federal spending […] is hard to pare down when most of the money goes to Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, ACA subsidies, highway construction and defense. Yes, I’d like the government to spend less, but on what, exactly? So if you want to contain inflation, you need higher tax rates and more robust IRS enforcement.

Count the lies and misdirections here. Have we been rendered so complacent by the jeet-shills that we can’t recognize this for what it is?

Daddy Scarebucks says:

If you’ve spent more time reading the NYT and other rags than you have scouring internet comment sections looking for the tiniest nuggets of insight, the structural patterns you rely on to glean information are ill formed.

Yes, you have a point. I was in fact thinking yesterday, “this guy is probably a big fan of Paul Krugman”. That is what I meant by true-believing prog: the devoted listener of NPR and reader of the New York Times, who keeps up with all their bestseller lists. The highbrow, credentialed, cultured bugmen of the left that used to dominate before the SJWs ate their lunch.

But if this exchange is supposed to have some utility for normies or fence-sitters, then normies are not generally academics or policy wonks, and normies are going to benefit more (or at least equally) from having this kind of stuff exposed as the dishonest and manipulative gibberish it is, rather than some extremely info-dense technical critique they could just as easily read on mises.org.

I think normies are very, very tired of hearing “we know what’s best for you” from people who clearly either do not know or do not care what’s best for them. Normies do not need to know all the technical details because normies can see it in the price of the pork butt they bought at the supermarket for 3x the price it cost last year (not an exaggeration).

V. K. Ovelund says:

Well, I seem to have gone from national socialist to urban monoculturist within the span of single discussion, so that’s progress, I suppose. I haven’t been compared to a shill for a while, but suspect that I’ll get over it.

Jim, I don’t really have a comment on the official inflation numbers. You have just made an oblique reference to wives. I think the long-running discussion of Marriage 1.0 is probably the most valuable thing about your blog but I have also been happily married 29 years to exactly one girl and have insufficient experience with other girls to deal in generalities. You are right: I’ve little notion of the latest prices at the supermarket.

As far as investing is concerned, if I were an investing genius, I would have bought crypto a long time ago. I didn’t buy it, and still don’t believe in it, but so far have no leg on which to stand when it comes to persuading others. Crypto has gone up, up, up, while I have just watched from the sidelines. I think that it’s value will go to zero, but you shouldn’t mind me. (You won’t, anyway.)

Gold is okay. Its long-run performance runs somewhere between Treasurys and stocks. I don’t hold gold, for I generally like stocks, but P.E. ratios (I specifically prefer the Shiller P.E. ratio or CAPE) are historically high at the moment, so I’m in cash at the moment. I disagree with you that the short-term Treasurys are that much of a hassle, but anyway couldn’t think of a better thing to do with the money while I wait for the present stock-market bubble to pop. Treasurys have at least the minor advantage of exemption from state income tax. If you have another cash-oriented suggestion, though, I’ll listen.

So many points have been raised by you and others in this discussion that I have been practically unable to respond to all of them (and if I had tried, I’d have bored the audience with excessive verbosity, anyway; I’ve probably gone on too long as it is). If you or Fidelis think that there is some particular point I ought to address, but haven’t, I’ll have a go at it; but I’ve addressed a lot. I am not sure how much more I can add.

Fidelis: when you speak of the east-coast style, I don’t know quite what to say. The style comes from decades of practice for better or worse, and it’s the best I can do. As far as “implied credentials and authority” go, I have succeeded at some things in life and failed ludicrously at others. I do have some credentials including (since Jim brought it up) a building contractor’s license, but lots of men have building contractor’s licenses and what’s the point in listing my other credentials here when we’re all pseudonymous and I could be making it all up?

I have zero credentials in finance, so if you discredit my conclusions there, I won’t complain.

Anyway, if I have skipped something specific you think worth the time to address, let me know.

Jim says:

> Well, I seem to have gone from national socialist to urban monoculturist within the span of single discussion,

From our perspective, not a whole lot of difference. Azov being exhibit A for the claim not much difference. The original Hitler Nazis, though well to the right of the Azov Nazis, were fairly keen on printing money and denying inflation also.

All Nazis have the theory that leftism would be just fine, if it was not for evil foreign influences spoiling it. Which by some definitions of leftism makes them right wing, but the left’s definition of leftism is merely tactical, and changes from time to time. We have a different definition around here.

> As far as investing is concerned, if I were an investing genius, I would have bought crypto a long time ago. I didn’t buy it, and still don’t believe in it, but so far have no leg on which to stand when it comes to persuading others. Crypto has gone up, up, up, while I have just watched from the sidelines. I think that it’s value will go to zero, but you shouldn’t mind me

Obviously if the US$ goes to zero, Bitcoin is most likely to replace it, which would imply a substantial rise in the real value of Bitcoin.

Since Bitcoin has utility and limited supply, not going to zero. The US$ also has utility, but potentially unlimited supply.

I and other people I know have a practical use case for Bitcoin — bypassing an increasingly broken and criminal banking system for international transactions. Most, though far from all, banking systems still work reasonably well for transactions within a single currency, but international banking is in bad shape and rapidly getting worse. It is not just a narrow group of crypto nerds, it is ordinary people doing ordinary things. If you have to do money internationally, sooner or later you are going to run into an obstacle course that just cannot be navigated without an office full of three hundred dollar an hour lawyers and the right people with the right connections. It is not just the rules getting in the way, it is also the bankers not caring about the rules, plus incompetence, ignorance, and negligence. It is not just that the clients of bankers cannot navigate the rules, it is that their banks cannot be bothered with navigating them. This use case is not going away, and was the original use case for Bitcoin: Transactions over the internet that cannot be done, or should not be done, with credit cards, and it is now being extensively used for this use case. Attempts to introduce it into in person transactions have failed horribly, due to bad software and bad infrastructure. The software has improved, though it needs to improve considerably further, but the infrastructure is harder to fix. We know how to fix it, but it is a lot of work, and the work is just not getting done. It will be done, for there are ten dollar bills lying on the pavement.

But even if adequate financial discipline returns the US budget, so that the fiat dollar never goes away, and even if Bitcoin continues to be useless for in person transactions, its existing use case guarantees it can never go to zero. A guarantee that the US$ does not enjoy.

The value of Bitcoin, like the value of gold, is, however, not primarily driven by this use case. It is driven by the expectation that the value of the dollar is going to zero. A bet on Bitcoin is a bet against the dollar.

On the issue of your writing style, it is fine — but people who commit thought crimes have a more punchy information dense style, because of less reliance on supposedly shared assumptions, and because they don’t have the policeman inside checking every fact against the ever growing list of hate facts.

V. K. Ovelund says:

Fidelis, you have asked a question about IBM and Apple. The question is noted and so is your view regarding it, and for all I know you are right.

During the 20th century I had a general concept of what IBM did for a living: typewriters; then big computers; then small computers. During the 21st century, I lack a general concept, so can no longer intelligently compare IBM to Apple.

I guess that someone owns IBM stock and that someone works in IBM’s employ, but I do not. The company is a mystery to me.

Mossadnik says:

Investing effort into your Bouncer and Animus alts made sense. No idea what you’re doing here, Druegger. Trolling Daddy Scarebucks?

V. K. Ovelund says:

Jim, by design, I don’t do money internationally, not even to Canada. I even avoid traveling internationally when I can (which is most of the time). The U.S. has been sanctioning foreigners so flagrantly that, as a U.S. citizen, I fear the blowback.

Therefore, I had never given much thought to the basic, international use case of crypto you describe.

V. K. Ovelund says:

Mossadnik:

Investing effort into your Bouncer and Animus alts made sense. No idea what you’re doing here, Druegger. Trolling Daddy Scarebucks?

Daddy Scarebucks is not worth my time, but I’d troll you, if I thought it would do any good.

Mossadnik says:

You already did “high-quality nazi sneaks into the community,” though. But sure, go ahead.

Neurotoxin says:

“Investing effort into your Bouncer and Animus alts made sense. No idea what you’re doing here, Druegger. Trolling Daddy Scarebucks?”

Wait…what? There are several ways in which this fails to make sense.

Mossadnik says:

😉

Mossadnik says:

Tip: in order to troll me effectively, KD will need to credibly play an Israeli rightist (not leftist) who hates the goyim, hates white people, and hates Christianity. This, so that he can challenge the alliance I’m trying to create between the Israeli Right and the American/European Right. The problem is that his familiarity with the Israeli Right is very superficial, seen exclusively through left-wing caricatures thereof, so there won’t be a lot of lulz to milk out of this lolcow. Nevertheless, I’m pointing this out because that’s probably the surest way to (ideologically) troll me.

He can also make fun of my relatively short stature (I’m 5’7″ after a good stretching), but this is far too likely to backfire immediately.

Humungus says:

Humungus has noted that Mossad-Nick and Kunning Druger share a similar wit and style. No doubt because they are both avid fans of Mouldbug. Impossible they are one and the same.

Mossadnik says:

You’re right Hummus, in fact KD used to be one of my alts, but then one day I woke up and he just gained his own independence. Now I don’t know who’s running him, but maybe one day it will be me again. Probably not today, though.

V. K. Ovelund says:

Hey Jim, sometime when you have time: is there a way to estimate the proper expected market capitalization of Bitcoin or Jimcoin or whatever the dominant crypto turns out to be, based solely on the one, indispensable use case you have outlined? I mean, international transactions that need to avoid the banking system, for which practical factors bar the use of dollars, euros and yuan.

I suppose that one would arrive at the estimate by dividing the expected volume of such transactions by the expected velocity of money. Or maybe there’s a better way. Or maybe I have posed the question incorrectly.

Eventually, one might need to discount the estimate for anti-crypto state taxation/enforcement (which might in turn require a guess at crypto’s relevant price elasticity), but even without a discount, I’d still be curious how big a demand the use case in question has for crypto.

If you’ve already done this work in an old post, a pointer would suffice.

Neurotoxin says:

All these alts and alts of alts are getting weird.

Mossadnik says:

At long last, the true meaning of the term “Alt Right” has been discovered!

Neurotoxin says:

😂

i says:

Interesting that whilst the UN pushes trannyism and sodomy. They also do this:
https://news.un.org/en/story/2024/12/1158461

Jim says:

You will notice that they ban underage marriage, while no one is in practice banning underage sex.

Since females in practice frequently get horny at a startlingly young age, a law against underage marriage is in effect a law against virgin marriage, or, more accurately, a law to make virgin marriage difficult.

Fidelis says:

“They reinforce discrimination and the idea that the best thing that can happen to them is to marry and have children”.

lol. lmao.

White Nationalist says:

I’m a Racist, a White Supremacist Nationalist and Apologist indeed.
And when I see the FBI and other instrumentalities and Politicians now disassociating from and disavowing the SPLC, ADL, ACLU…
This makes me exceedingly happy and hopeful for my people 🙂
Someday our White ideas and competitive spirit will be free to displace all others again… nothing but a beautiful contiguous White civilization across all the land again.
When White Power is free of the GloboPol Govt DIVERSITY plan, it can return to its natural cohesiveness, buying all adjacent property, excluding everyone else, restoring the Nation, raising White Families with White children free to play outside all day again.

This is also VERY good for the non-Whites, as they will be encouraged and will now move back to their own lands and make them contiguously non-White and Great Again too. We will fully support their ideas in doing that.

Fidelis says:

I don’t believe you Rakesh. Tell me why white people are great, name some great things we’ve done that prove the superiority of our race, or at least our civilization.

Jim says:

If “White Nationalist” does not respond to this, going on moderation for unresponsiveness.

Tell us some great things we have done that prove the superiority of our race or our civilisation.

Daddy Scarebucks says:

Why even bother testing Sanjeev? You know it’s just the 168th sock puppet of the same guy, you know he’ll probably manage to post a “D” grade answer that barely passes the test while still raising all kinds of red flags, and you know that the first thing he’ll do when you whitelist him is to blast out another rapid-fire spray of spam posts full of thoroughly uninteresting outbound URLs.

Fidelis says:

If the barely passing reply gets read by his handler, that’s a handler getting more exposure to our memes. I asked him about whites as reflex, should have made it a test more explicit to what we talk about here.

Jim says:

I will pass a D grade answer, so long as it is enough to give his supervisor the runs.

Jim says:

And what do you know — another shill shows up, or the same shill under a different name, complaining about me asking “White Nationalist” to celebrate some of the many great accomplishments of white civilisation and/or the white race which demonstrate our superiority.

But “white nationalist” is not on moderation yet. He can post anything he likes, but if it is unresponsive, then he goes on moderation.

I begin to suspect that we may find white nationists are strangely unable to notice what makes us whites great, just as the JooJooJooRothschildsRothschildsJooRothschilds brigade are strangely unable to notice evil acts by (((Soros))) and (((Victoria Nuland))).

But we shall see. Anything “white nationalist” posts now will immediately appear, without going through moderation, because he came a lot closer to thought crime than any of the shills complaining about censorship.

Jim says:

more shills show up to complain about censorship, all of them more racist than thou and more antisemitic than thou, all of them unable to mention any notable misdeeds of Soros et al, or notable accomplishments of whites and white civilisation.

But White Nationalist is not on moderation. Anything he posts will appear immediately unmolested. The shills are upset not that has prevented from saying what he wants to say, but that he has been asked to say something that one would think a white nationalist would love to talk about.

On this blog, no one gets censored for what they say. They get silenced for what they are strangely unable to say.

We shall see if White Nationalist can say it.

Humungus says:

Looks too much like the standard script of what leftist say we are. Humungus is suspicious, not that I disagree though.

This is a reactionary blog. Do a little homework first, agent… gravely disappointed.

Jim says:

“Yes, “White nationalist” sounds suspiciously like what the left thinks we are. Not that he is wrong, but his stuff is thought crime adjacent, rather than actual thought crimes.

Obviously the current conflict is not white nationalism versus browns, it is Christian Nationalism versus Woke.

On the other hand, his stuff is very close to actual thought crimes. Not seeing any obvious enemy payload, which is why I allowed him through. But I would like to see some real thought crimes.

If he is a shill, which he likely is, they have given their shills a little more slack than I am accustomed to.

A long time ago, the left was composed of very clever evil people. Today, not looking all that clever.

But it still looks overwhelmingly white and Jewish — look at antifa mugshots. It is not that they are brown, it is that they are mutant freak whites. Obvious genetic whites for the greater part, but equally obviously, genetically inferior to normal whites. Wiggers.

Bioleninism recruits inferior people, and therefore tends to be disproportionately brown. But clearly, we are not at war with brown. Whites are wolf to whites.

The enemy payload of “white nationalism” is that the white left is OK. It is not OK. Jews are naturally priestly relative to whites, but whites are naturally priestly relative to the rest — we face a demonic enemy faith, not an enemy race.

Woke is defined by Diversity, Equity and Inclusion. The Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion speaker divides the room into the oppressor class and the official victim class, and unleashes the victim class to wreak vengeance upon the oppressor class. This is not a racial divide — the official victim class tends to predominantly composed of weird and disgusting perverts and other varieties of spiteful mutant.

White Nationalism is being for the most part pumped by obvious enemies, in order to shore up their failing support from black males, who are disgusted by all the perverts.

Straight male black Christians are a small but significant and valuable part of Christian Nationalism, and our enemies are not at all happy about this.

Racial degeneration due to random mutation is a far bigger threat to the white race than racial degeneration due to miscegenation with inferior races. Even if whites remain completely pure white, we are still rapidly and obviously turning into niggers, and the only solutions are future improvements in gene tech, or reversion to severely unequal patriarchal aristocratic governance, which everyone who does not make it into the aristocracy is going to find a bit harsh. Both solutions seem likely, and we if all goes well, we may well wind up with both of them, but the white nationalist movement tends to be Bernie style socialist — that is the enemy payload that the shills are pushing in the trojan horse of white nationalism.

It is not whites versus blacks, look at the trantifa mugshots. It is not even Jews versus whites. It is the genetically superior versus wiggers.

Because Woke, Christianity, and the Dark Enlightenment of Gnon are all faiths, we see massive white and Jewish overrepresentation in the leadership of all of them. Because Woke is a postChristian faith, the woke priesthood tends to be disproportionately Jewish, but because Woke is implemented as bioleninism, and bioleninism recruits the defective, we see a whole lot more mutant over representation in those mugshots than Jewish overrepresentation.

Haervon says:

I read this thread.

I really do wish people would stop associating all “White Nationalists” with being “Socialist / Nazi”, [*deleted for not conforming to the moderation policy*]

yewotm8 says:

White Nationalism always turns to socialism. It takes “It’s ok to be White” and turns it into “Your bad behaviour will be excused because you are White”.

It’s especially ridiculous now, as the edge of the Overton window approaches an actual based position on race. There are no new White Nationalists, if there ever were any real ones.

White Nationalist says:

When a room full of brainwashed White people collect and imprison the very Whiteness that Made them, the protective White type civilization that is responsible for everything they have and enjoy, every advancement that brought them survival and free time… when they do this they enter and guarantee downfall upon themselves.

Free This Young White Man
https://x.com/TRobinsonNewEra/status/1973889154531668213

Hesiod says:

DHS has a wonderful retort for antifa who take Pepe’s name in vain:

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/jAIKnV6II7s

White Nationalist says:

Speaking of this newfangled fad University, as opposed to trad University where they were still teaching and building Math, Science, and Rockets up until the 2000’s or so.
https://x.com/TRobinsonNewEra/status/1973889154531668213

I am beginning to speculate that this UNIVERSITY ideology is in fact the beginning of a weak fork of the genome, gestated in these colour ovens, and by its breeding with the Jungle, it will become a failed and dying non-White fork within the next few generations. These University breeds, the Diversity fork, will become indistinguishable from the species inhabiting the inner city ghettos. We are already noticing their social incapacity and reduced intelligience, creativeness, work ethic, not to mention their half-breed noses, hair, and eyes. The cumulative effects are being incorporated into their fork.

Find other White people that reject the Fad and accept the Trad, be they among the Citadels or the Trailers, and breed happily and bountifully with them, however you are able to survive, even if you are poor your long-successful DNA will help you through adversity and give you wisdom of stable steady navigation 🙂

Neurotoxin says:

Boring shill is boring.

yewotm8 says:

Why should James Fields be released from prison?

Anonymous Fake says:

[*unresponsive*]r.

Jim says:

I keep saying that universities are religious seminaries, always have been religious seminaries, and always will be religious seminaries, and their function always has been and always will be to inculcate the state religion in the state priesthood.

If you disagree with this argument, argue against it. But don’t just sail right along as if it has never been made.

For the rest of elite, we also need to ensure that they taught the state religion, and at least go through the motions of adhering to it. You do want have people learn practical stuff, as for example rocket science, at university, not because it is a good place to learn rocket science, but because such people are potentially powerful and dangerous. Because University is inherently a religious institution, it is inherently not a good place for science and technology, though how bad it is for science and technology depends on the nature of the state religion. (Global Warming and all that) But the state and state religion would much prefer science and technology to be there as much as practical, rather than somewhere potentially more dangerous, so is apt to corral such things into the university with the carrot and the stick.

The trouble is that your frame is that university bestows these things upon us, which is not my frame, my frame being that these things are coralled into university, and it is an uncomfortable fit, and the less obnoxious and intrusive the state religion is, the less they need to be coralled, and since you will not acknowledge or respond to my frame, no communication is taking place.

Neurotoxin says:

universities are religious seminaries, always have been religious seminaries, and always will be religious seminaries, and their function always has been and always will be to inculcate the state religion in the state priesthood.

This is how I understand it.

I’ll define “universities” as institutions that teach topics like political science, political philosophy, moral philosophy, and other subjects that are relevant to governance (they may teach other things too).

The argument is about long-run stability:

Suppose the university system is preaching some ideology other than the state religion. Then one of two things is going to happen:

1. If the state is serious about maintaining itself and understands the inevitable consequence of losing memetic sovereignty, it will step in, assert authority over the universities, and compel them – literally by force, if necessary – to resume teaching the state religion.
2. If the state does not do this, for whatever reason, then the alternative religion taught by the universities will very quickly, in a historical sense, become the new state religion as the universities’ students move into society, and especially as they move into positions of power and influence.

Thus, if there ever were a situation in which the universities were preaching something other than the state religion, that situation wouldn’t last long, one way or another. It would be ephemeral on a historical timescale.

Neurotoxin says:

Come to think of it, this is just the point that disputes over sovereignty inherently escalate until resolved, applied to memetic sovereignty.

As always, seriously disputed sovereignty is not an equilibrium.

Encelad says:

This white pilling video was posted by the official department of homeland security account. Alt-right Retrowave vibe. At the second 15 there is even the moonman (I am not very familiar with that meme, but it was from the alt right as well.)

https://xcancel.com/myth_pilot/status/1973873813504041344#m

A2 says:
Hesiod says:

That is a Shadow Man:

https://barsoom.substack.com/p/homo-umbrans

He has degraded his own sapience, becoming less human, for power. Like the Zizians, they actively work at becoming demons.

A2 says:

I’d say he looks and sounds like he’s already arrived.

A2 says:

Good article, by the way. Well worth reading.

Cloudswrest says:

I needed a mental refresh on who the “Zizians” are. So here’s Grok on the matter.

https://x.com/i/grok/share/oNusck2oQigXr6ExS3OHNUXu8

Hesiod says:

Brain Hemisphere Theories: Ideas that the brain’s left and right hemispheres can have conflicting “genders” or interests, with transgender women (common among Zizians) seen as uniquely suited for AI safety work due to cognitive profiles.

Ah yes, let’s turn AI over to the Warhammer 40K Warp.

…the group’s uncompromising moral code…

Am reminded of George Carlin’s old comedy routine concerning euphemistic language. “In a technical sense, Attila the Hun had an active outdoor lifestyle.”

Bix Nudelmann says:

Ohhhhh boy:

…of the ideas promoted by Jack Amadeus LaSota, a transgender computer engineer and blogger known mononymously as “Ziz” (they/them pronouns).

LaSota, who transitioned after moving to the Bay Area in 2016, gained a small but intense following through online writings on platforms like Tumblr and Discord, blending veganism, gender theory, AI alignment concerns, and unconventional psychological frameworks.

Jim says:

Zizeanism is just consistent Effective Altruism. Because mainstream Effective Altruists are horrified, they focus on trivial differences of detail between their ideology and Ziz, but what makes the Zizians murderous is precisely the moral theory that they have in common with Effective Altruism.

The brain hemisphere theory is just a rationale for usual standard cult psychological practices for accomplishing brainwashing and demonic possession, and this is a significant difference between Effective Altruists and Zizianism, but Effective Altruism is a cult with a whole lot of demonic possession, and Zizianism is just more of cult with even more demonic possession. The problem is their moral theory, which is just the Effective Altruism moral theory.

Based Camp are former Effective Altruists that were chased out of the left by the intolerance and hatred, and are now trying to create their own little cult, which is just Effective Altruism purged of most of the intolerance, hatred, and insanity plus a healthy dose of Christianity added. Reading between the lines of their “Effective Altruism to sex work pipeline” it becomes apparent that the Zizians and Effective Altruism are differ only in degree, not in kind. Based Camp are able to recognise egregious evil when they see it, but are reluctant to see evil when it dresses up in niceness. They are friends with evil people. I too am friends with quite a few evil people who don’t do evil to me, but I know evil when I see it.

It is not hard for me to love the sinner but not the sin when the sin does not harm me and mine. When it does harm me and mine, my wrath causes me to take extreme, and often wicked and extremely unwise, action.

Hesiod says:

NYT love letter to the Zizians in an attempt to “humanize” the demons published 10 days ago:

https://archive.ph/pKR82

In part because of the community’s devotion to open-mindedness, it attracts high numbers of trans and neurodivergent people. For the same reason, some participants flirt with extreme right ideology. Like the tech world more generally, the community is male-dominated and has been accused of encouraging norms of social and sexual freedom that provide cover for abusive behavior.

That’s right, folks! Right wing toxic masculinity is where the Zizians went wrong! LOL!

Fidelis says:

Curtis must have a strong stomach, I would be vomiting from the smell of sulphur and rot had I been around the nyt imps. This is like reading an apolgetic essay written by an exceptionally contemptuous fiend promoting the deeds of his fellow in the pit.

Neurotoxin says:

Even by the standards of the New York Times, that’s a particularly odious lie.

Daddy Scarebucks says:

If I were Trump, or Miller, or Kash, or whomever is supposed to be in charge of pursuing this, I’d be making a formal note that the New York Times is now on the record supporting a known terrorist organization, and should be subjected to some very intense scrutiny to discover whether there might be any financial or personnel ties.

Time to open up the Sulzberger books. And time for an inquisition.

Ask yourselves, Thermidoreans, what would they be doing if the New York Post wrote an article in support of the KKK or the Proud Boys (notwithstanding the fact that they are both run by glowies)?

yewotm8 says:

It’s getting very difficult for normies to pretend that demonic possession is not real:

https://x.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1974260079823028236

Jim says:

No, we have only still photos, so can only tell that Christopher Hudson is a spiteful mutant freak.

To assess demonic possession, you need video. It is their voices and the way they move, or the expression on their face that is only there for an instant.

A2 says:

He’s at the very least sweeping the entrance.

EastEnd says:

Georgian Presidency toppled by StGeorge’s flag bearers.
The Second Crusade has begun, in nearly the same region as the First.

Unfortunately, they’re also carrying the flag of the EU, and potentially turfed, which will almost assuredly weaken and doom any legit portion of such movement.

They could just be there to collect their Digital-ID and CIA paycheck.

Jim says:

Nope, this is another GAE in exile coup, similar to the one that just happened in Moldova, though Moldova was self coup and this is an external coup like Maidan. Because the Eurocrats are running out of Ukrainians, and the Poles are getting nervous and backed off from attacking Kaliningrad, they are going to feed Moldovans and Georgians to the cannons.

The Christian and Georgian symbols are like Antifa alternately carrying American flags when committing terrorist acts, and burning those flags when protesting.

Mossadnik says:

(The real Rod must be really confused right now HAHAHAHAHA.)

Wordcel Nationalist:

if we have a White Civilization again, they [white genes] will be free to evolve at their best Natural rate again… This is also VERY good for the non-Whites, as they will be encouraged and will now move back to their own lands and make them contiguously non-White and Great Again too. We will fully support their ideas in doing that.

That’s not entirely wrong, in fact.

As you definitely, vividly recall, 11 months ago Pax and P-C had the following exchange:

We only exist because of eons of gene mixing with constant pruning, and it is those groups that pruned better that ended up better. It wasn’t groups that maintained complete genetic isolation that dominated

There’s a remarkable correlation, though.

Peoples of the middle east are the result of millenia of empires marching up and down the land. Not a pretty look. Our vedic cousins in the sub-continent allowed far too much dravidianism to survive, a ‘technical debt’ their descendants have been paying for too this day. Japan has produced some of the finest folks this side of the tundra, and I dare say it’s not a coincidence they are on a waterlocked island chain. Et cetera et cetera.

In order to prune effectively, it helps to not have leaky boundaries; be it literally, or conceptually.

Where exactly is the flaw in Saint P-C’s argument? “In order to prune effectively, it helps to not have leaky boundaries” is obviously correct. How can you prune effectively if, as it happens, you’re constantly flooded by everyone from everywhere? Of course you can’t; so you need non-leaky boundaries.

If those non-leaky boundaries use, among other things, some or other racial/genetic criteria – that’s not the end of the world, in my view.

Pax Imperialis says:

Leaky boarders are bound to happen. When a genetically/spiritually/culturally/politically superior civilization forms in vicinity of an obvious inferior, the temptation to overrun the other for their resources is too strong to resist. All biology is growth mindset. Non-leaky boarders requires the type of stagnation that results from confinement that nature abhors. As soon as the Japanese got boats…

I’m not in disagreement with P-C, but I don’t see how pruning must be confined. Europe itself was formed from very leaky Aryan pruning… and I don’t see any civilization surviving if it doesn’t figure out how to prune sufficiently in a leaky state.

Daddy Scarebucks says:

This is quite a strange argument to hear from you, of all people.

Porous borders–and I’m using the term “porous”, not “leaky”, because “porous” describes the actual issue while “leaky” describes the terminal side effects–facilitate the flow of individuals from inferior nations into that of their superiors.

Not the other way around. You’ve framed the issue to suggest that porous borders are simply inevitable when major inequalities form across those borders. Certainly that inequality will make the inferior beings desire to move to the “better” lands and grab what they can. But the porosity of the borders is unrelated to said desire; all that determines the ultimate “leakiness” is the security of the border and the extent to which the superior nation allows the inferior ones to come in and loot the place.

Just because the brown hordes want to come, doesn’t mean we have to let them; and just because some of them manage to get in anyway, doesn’t mean we have to treat them in such as a manner as would encourage them to stay or bring their families over. There is a vast, vast difference between “strong desire to migrate” and “uncontrolled mass migration”.

Sure, you can also avoid mass migration to your nation’s land is to simply be a low-functioning civilization, but securing the border is part and parcel of a high-functioning civilization. Otherwise it won’t be high-functioning for very long.

Pax Imperialis says:

>This is quite a strange argument to hear from you, of all people.
>Certainly that inequality will make the inferior beings desire to move to the “better” lands and grab what they can.

It’s a ‘strange argument’ because you got the flow backwards. If I have a gun, and all my buddies have guns, and we are cohesive, and across the boarder is a bunch of uncohesiveness tribals sitting on top of a lot of gold, I may very well cross the boarder with my men and colonize. The boarder has now moved and now I find myself ruling over a bunch of inferiors. This describes much of human history. Boarders are never fixed, stagnant features on maps that never change.

Again, I’ll point out the rhetorical statement, “as soon as the Japanese got boats…”

The current state of affairs where inferiors can move to “better” lands and be handed everything on a silver platter is a complete inversion of human history… but regardless, leaky boarders are a facet of the natural biological desire to expand, conquer, and colonize.

Daddy Scarebucks says:

If that’s what you meant, then no one would call it “leaky borders” or even “porous borders”. That is simply Colonization, Empire, or straight-up Conquest.

Which, sure, it happens, but it’s not what anyone was talking about.

Pax Imperialis says:

Colonization, Empire, or straight-up Conquest tend to create leaky boarders so often they might as well be the same. This has been well recognized by the right for a long time.

Daddy Scarebucks says:

I do not understand what you are arguing, or with whom, or why. I do not understand whether you are describing things from the colonized/conquered point of view or the colonizer/conqueror’s point of view. I do not understand what this has to do with the original argument advanced by P-C, or Mossadnik’s restatement of it.

I respect your insights and opinions on most matters but in this particular one, you need to be a lot clearer about what you are trying to say, because I simply can’t make sense of it. And I am usually very good at making sense of vaguely-worded propositions, regardless of personal agreement, so if I can’t understand what you’re trying to say, it’s a good bet that other people can’t understand either. Judging by Mossadnik’s “White Man’s Burden” response below this one, and your reply to his, I am pretty sure that he misunderstood you too, and we are all talking in circles.

What it sounds like you are trying to say, and I hope I am incorrect on this, is: “If you are too weak to prevent conquest/colonization by your neighbors, then you can’t avoid having porous borders.” Which ultimately reduces to: “If you can’t secure your borders, then you can’t secure your borders.” It’s not wrong, but it is very obvious, very silly and only tangentially related to the issue at hand. If you had something deeper that you were intending to convey, it is not apparent to me from what’s been written so far.

What P-C was originally saying, and what Mossadnik was reiterating, was that if you are relatively strong, and if you have the ability to create relatively non-leaky boundaries (whether well-defended physical borders or softer cultural boundaries like the Amish), but fail to act on that ability, and allow yourselves to be overrun and interbred with foreigners and mystery meat due to passivity or ideological enstupidation, then you will be severely and unnecessarily limiting any chances of success you might have at eugenic breeding, all other things being equal.

I don’t know if you were obliquely hinting at something along the lines of “mystery meat demographics are inevitable [because conquest/colonization?] so you’d better get used to it and come up with a system that incorporates it”. If you were, then I would have to forcefully disagree, as even today there are many nations that have avoided the mystery-meat fate, and it is self-evidently not inevitable.

I know that you have argued in the past, and I have also argued in the past, that the USA is already a land of mystery meat and it is very impractical to worry about turning it into an ethnostate now, but that is an altogether different debate, and even within the confines of that debate, there is still a big chasm between “refugees welcome/no one is illegal” and “let’s shed several million illegal/barely-legal wetbacks and dots, then freeze the demographics where they are, and then work on culling from there”. There are degrees of so-called leakiness, and minimizing said leakiness to whatever extent is possible is clearly to the benefit of any nation that is interested in improving its genetic legacy over time.

Pax Imperialis says:

>I am incorrect on this, is: “If you are too weak to prevent conquest/colonization by your neighbors, then you can’t avoid having porous borders.”

Human nature is to expand.
Superior people will conquer and colonize inferior people. (although today we tend to economically colonize instead)
The boarders move and now include new people.
All the boarder security in the world doesn’t help when those people are now inside.
Empires try to maintain internal boarders between the core homeland and the colony, but they are inherently leaky.
Have to prune outgroups otherwise they will be a major problem.

>I would have to forcefully disagree, as even today there are many nations that have avoided the mystery-meat fate, and it is self-evidently not inevitable.

Examples? The major example often used of avoiding mystery meat is Japan (and Germany prior to mass migration) but that’s ironically because the American Empire put a stop to it. Imagine had they succeeded in WW2… There is still an ethnic Korean population in Japan to this day. The Japanese were trying to culturally and spiritually incorporate the Korean population. Had they the additional millions we’d be looking at a significantly different Japan today. The Germans (before GAE) remained “pure” only because they were already in the process of overrunning the rest of Europe, the flow was strongly in one direction.

All the current major powers, America/Russia/China, are all to one degree or another mystery meat. China simply had a lot more time to “Han” the subgroups.

Even when looking at the current minor powers, Spain/France/Italy/Korea/etc, you see the remains of past Empire mystery meat. Heck the entire meditarianian can aptly be described as “Greek with extra steps”. Clearly those aforementioned nations pruned the outgroups sufficiently because to outsiders we don’t recognize the internal divisions, but Spain for example still has problems with its Basque and Catalan population who are distinct enough from the Castilian pop that natives can recognize the difference from appearance. Even in Korea which claims homogenous ethnicity the natives can tell the difference between the remains of the Three Kingdoms. Jeolla people look and sound and act different from North Gyeongsang as just one example. France and Italy have similar subtle ethnic divisions. Italy is obviously Germanic in the North and “Greek with extra steps” in the south. France still has its Corsican problem and is clearly Germanic/Celtic in the North and Latin in the South.

What I’m saying is that it is possible to avoid mass, constant influx, of people, and that it’s preferable to do so, but at some point boarders move and internal boarders get leaky. No system remains steady state forever. Even the most stable Europe has ever been, Westphalian Aristocracy, saw a very leaky nobility. There were Germans on half the thrones of Europe, and those genes were trickling down. I just don’t see a way to 100% prevent this, the historical track record speaks, and if it can’t be prevented, going to have to figure out how to control it and master it.

Of course modern war technologies have made physically moving boarders a tremendously expensive endeavor, and so we don’t see much of that anymore… but trade boarders have remained in flux and accelerated in porousness. American businesses, and now Chinese continue to outperform others, and as soon as you get trade outposts in other countries, you get exchange of populations. This is how much of South East Asia has Chinese minorities spread out all over the region, how Germans were spread out all over Europe (before the Soviets genocided them), and how Americans often return home with various foreign wives. Are you going to force auturky economy on the merchant class? Good luck with that, the Chinese tried and failed, and the West is far more mercantile than the Chinese ever were.

Again, I will say I’m 100% against “refugees welcome/no one is illegal”. I just don’t see human nature being curtailed to such an extent there is absolutely zero flux of populations and resulting mystery meat. We like to test boundaries and infringe on the space of others. We like to “fuck around and find out”. In a perfect world this wouldn’t be the case, but man is fallen and we have to do our best to pick up the pieces. I don’t believe the Bible would be so focused on concepts of ‘pruning’ if that wasn’t the case, and so we must prune otherwise we will bear rotten fruit.

Pax Imperialis says:

I will also admit I’m somewhat concussed at the moment. I’m likely not the most coherent at the moment. The past couple weeks has been somewhat confusing, and I’ve never had the greatest verbal IQ.

Daddy Scarebucks says:

Nothing wrong with your writing in general. Was just hard to follow in this instance.

My main takeaway from your last reply is, to radically and probably unfairly summarize: every nation eventually becomes an empire, every empire eventually becomes expansionist, every expansionist empire eventually ends up governing conquered peoples and conquered territories, and every empire with conquered peoples and territories eventually ends up with gene backflow into the heart of the empire.

Well, maybe. But it’s a hell of a slippery slope argument. To whatever extent it is true and accurate, it is not going to be predictable or linear. Not every successful nation builds an empire (e.g. the Swiss). Not every successful empire becomes aggressively expansionist (e.g. the Chinese). Not every expansionist empire is very successful at expanding or consolidating its gains (e.g. Kingdom of Prussia). Not every successfully expansionist empire has uncontrolled admixture (e.g. Ottomans or, if you prefer, the Mongols).

Maybe, possibly, all these empires would have ended up the same way eventually, had time and circumstances and politics allowed, but all we know for certain is, they didn’t.

Just because some race has a frontier spirit, which leads to colonization and conquest, does not necessarily mean they’re going to “go native” in any significant number, or to invite the rest of the world to come live with them, or fail to prevent it in any case. In some ways, America is actually the perfect counterexample; compare our admixture with our aboriginals to that of the Conquistadors in what is now Mexico; they couldn’t stop themselves breeding with the Aztecs and becoming mongrelized, but America really did not have any of those kinds of problems until the Ellis Island era.

I think it’s entirely feasible for an empire to wave its big dick around the world without sticking that dick in every available orifice to produce mongrel half-breeds. I mean no offense here, I’m not perfectly “purebred” either, but we are discussing whether the phenomenon happens in significant enough volume to make eugenic breeding a difficult or futile effort, and the historical record shows, in my opinion, that it is not really an issue unless you make it an issue.

Historically, conquered peoples tended to just… disappear, not mix with the conquerors, except very slightly on the female side.

Pax Imperialis says:

Nature is expansionist until it hits a bottleneck, then it bounces up and down against the upper limit. Eventually circumstances of the limit changes. That is where we see massive declines or expansions. It’s not that every nation is destined to be an empire, it’s that biological desires strongly point in that political direction, that doesn’t guarantee outcomes. Extinction of entire gene lines is certainly possible, and history shows its fairly frequent, but of the few that survive, of all that exist today, all have the legacy of empire somewhere in their relatively recent past. I have a very Heraclitian view on man, “War is father and king of everything. War proves some to be gods and others human beings; it makes some slaves and others free.”

You bring up Switzerland as a counterpoint. What is the Swiss ethnicity? It doesn’t appear to exist. The nation is a strange mishmash of peoples of the Holy Roman Empire that survived the winds of 19th Century Liberal Nationalism. They are a remnant chunk of a past Empire, and resultant exists as an Empire on a small scale, a dominant Protestant German population ruling over Catholic French and Italians.

The example of Mexico vs America is not counter to each other, rather they both exist on the same continuum of various levels of pruning the outgroup. America simply pruned better and harder, largely by circumstance. It’s an argument for better pruning of the outgroup and not less.

I agree with you: “Historically, conquered peoples tended to just… disappear, not mix with the conquerors, except very slightly on the female side.” This is a likely outcome from any pruning. Breeding of farm animals the least controversial still practiced version of this, but human genes, like any complex animal, exists on a wide distribution, and so there are groups or segments of groups who are similar and advantageous enough, to the conquerors, that they survive, and so they don’t just disappear.

Although the question of pruning is rather moot, as we can remove dysfunction all we want, but so long as elite fertility remains collapsed, not going to get anywhere.

Mossadnik says:

I don’t see how pruning must be confined

Ah yes, the White Man’s Burden.

No, actually, attempting to prune the outgroup is never a good idea. The outgroup is the outgroup – you can ally with it, or be at war with it, or anything in between, but it’s still an outgroup. It’s not Americans’ business pruning outgroups, whether around the world (as neocons advocate) or in America itself if they have arrived there (as Magic Dirt believers and lolbertardians propose). The pruning should only be directed towards the ingroup.

And it’s okay that outgroups will be defined — again, among other things — along ethnic/ancestral/genealogical lines. I’m not a White Nationalist, and I do not subscribe to a “zero sum game” or Narrow Tribalist worldview of the world; nevertheless – it’s okay to be white. It’s also okay to be many other things, for that matter; embrace the power of “and.”

Now, one can argue that accepting valuable, vetted members from outgroups into the ingroup can be a feature of pruning the ingroup. That absolutely doesn’t mean, however, that you should accept having porous borders, whether literally or (as P-C originally noted) conceptually.

Pax Imperialis says:

As soon as the outgroup is conquered, it is owned by the ingroup and ownership becomes something the ingroup is responsible for. Conquest is an inevitability of human nature. Either solve the problem of pruning the outgroup (which there is many historical examples of) or change human nature to expand (of which there is, to my knowledge, no examples of success and horrific levels of bloodshed in failed attempts). Hell, your people are, slowly and ineffectively, pruning the outgroup in Gaza, and I doubt you’d call that a bad thing.

Mossadnik says:

I don’t believe that Jews belong in the West, but as Ashkenazi, I do regard Odin as one of my ancestors, probably along the female line rather than the male line. (Ashkenazim are said to be around 60% Semitic and 40% European.) The people of Odin were originally forged under climatic conditions that selected for cooperativeness and long-term planning. Yes, there was some mixing, but not to the extent you see in other places of the world, for the simple and obvious reason that the unsuitable just did not survive long enough to pass their genes. And this long, long predates Christianity.

Again, embrace the power of “and.”

Pax Imperialis says:

Some Ashkenazim are so European in lineage, they might as well be White, and we are seeing the American Jew increasingly become Messianic. They seem to integrate well enough after conversion to Christianity.

Mossadnik says:

The thing to remember about the Good Samaritan is that Jesus Christ regarded him as a Samaritan. He did not tell you, “The Samaritan is a Jew.” A neighbor of Jews, yes, perhaps a great neighbor, but not a Jew. (Which is not to deny that, under certain conditions, a Samaritan or even a Slav may be accepted into the Jewish ingroup. There is place for nuance, to be sure. Read the Bible.)

Again, not saying that America should define itself as “white,” and not advocating any “unfair discrimination” against non-whites; but it’s not the end of the world — (((OYYY VEYYY))) — if a Thede does self-conceive in a manner that takes biological ancestry, be it race or ethnicity or whatever, into account; as most naturally do. It’s not “inherently wrong.”

A nation can be Christian and European (and many other things), for instance.

Mossadnik says:

Having said all that, I should probably tone it down with the Moon Man references — hilarious as they are — if for no other reason than that nobody is going to implement a Moon Man-inspired policy. Check out (most of) the prominent Twitter Right accounts, for instance; they aren’t White Nationalists, and lurking in this comment section will certainly not make them become White Nationalists.

The instinctive response to explicit anti-white discrimination is to become explicitly pro-white, but the cerebral response is to eliminate (or “remove from power”) the sinful priesthood responsible for the anti-whiteness, anti-maleness, anti-heterosexuality, etc., and to institute a pro-civilizational program, a Christian one in the American and European contexts, which will be implicitly pro-[civilized races], but that need not be its objective – the objective is a prosperous, Gnon-compatible civilization.

And a crucial part of establishing and maintaining civilization is filtering out (or “getting under control”) the uncivilized or anti-civilized. Which is a phenotypical categorization that is not strictly speaking racial; yet it evidently correlates much more strongly with certain existing races than with other existing races, hence Race Realism. But race per se need not be a central or explicit component of the Restoration.

IS THIS GOOD ENOUGH, KUNNING DRUEGGER, OR DO YOU WANT ME TO JOIN THE SPLC-ADL-ACLU WHILE I’M AT IT?

The Cominator says:

> Moonman references
Well hilariously the whitehouse made one in their shutdown video…

Mossadnik says:

By the way, here is what Moldbug originally wrote about (against) White Nationalism, in case anyone has missed it:

By and large, the Brahmins are absolutely sincere. And since they are the ruling class, their ability to ignore reality is almost unlimited.

And, more to the point, what is the one ideology least likely to convince them to change their nefarious ways? What is the system of thought that Brahmins are most powerfully inoculated against? White nationalism! It’s a strategy that couldn’t be better designed to fail. It is almost eerie in its profound and incurable ineffectiveness.

[…]

This is the trouble with white nationalism. It is strategically barren. It offers no effective political program. You can be as smart as you want and think about white nationalism forever, and you will not come up with any productive strategy for collective action, white or otherwise.

At its best, white nationalism offers a sensible description of a general problem. This problem certainly exists, and it falls under the larger category of bad government. (If allowing the old cities of North America to be overrun and rendered largely uninhabitable by murderous racist gangs isn’t bad government, really, I’m not sure what is.)

But white nationalism offers no formula at all for how to transition from bad government to good government. Indeed, to the extent that white nationalism succeeds in anything, it motivates its enemies, keeping everyone stuck in the same old destructive patterns.

And the worst thing about white nationalism, in my opinion, is just that it’s nationalism. Nationalism is really another word for democracy—the concept of democracy makes no sense except as an algorithm for determining the General Will of the People, that is, the Nation. And whatever its electoral formula or lack thereof, every nationalist government has seen itself as in some sense a representative of the Volk.

Compare this to the world of the ancien régime, in which French aristocrats had far more in common with Russian aristocrats than with French peasants. The world before nationalism and democracy was a world of mild wars, small and effective governments, personal freedom, and civilized high culture. Let architecture be the judge: all buildings from the 18th century are treasures. So are most from the 19th. The 20th was the age of nationalism, democracy, tyranny, mass murder, and gigantic concrete eyesores. (I live within walking distance of not one but two hospitals which are dead ringers for any Bulgarian secret-police headquarters. Although on reflection this is probably an insult to Bulgaria.)

Note that, before the coming of nationalist democracy, it was actually not a problem at all for wealthy, high-IQ people to live in the same society as poor, low-IQ people. It worked just fine. The latter served the former. They got paid. No one starved. If the mob wanted to riot, there were more than enough Swiss Guards to handle them. It was not Louis XVI’s fictitious oppressions that doomed him to the implacable vengeance of the People, but his irresolution and gullibility that drew him to the deadly Anglo-American fad of popular government.

https://www.unqualified-reservations.org/2007/11/why-i-am-not-white-nationalist/

Make of that what you will, as they say.

Humungus says:

Thank you for the link to…
UNQUALIFIED RESERVATIONS
BY MENCIUS MOLDBUG

Humungus will take time to read it. There may be something in it I can use.

A2 says:

LOL. There are many worthy essays to read but I particularly liked the one about Congo. A very convincing example.

https://www.unqualified-reservations.org/2009/08/from-cromer-to-romer-and-back-again/

(NB: It’s furthermore my impression that the perfidy of the Belgians in the Congo Free State was greatly exaggerated.)

Those who read the long thread about crossing Congo overland in a Toyoter that was pointed to here a few weeks ago might recall the cry of the modern village natives: “Des blancs! Argent!” (Whites! Money!)

Mossadnik says:

His latest post is quite the blackpill.

Some excerpts:

The second Trump revolution, like the first, is failing. It is failing because it deserves to fail. It is failing because it spends all its time patting itself on the back. It is failing because its true mission, which neither it nor (still less) its supporters understand, is still as far beyond its reach as algebra is beyond a cat. Because the vengeance meted out after its failure will dwarf the vengeance after 2020—because the successes of the second revolution are so much greater than the first—everyone involved with this revolution needs a plan B for 2029. And it is not even clear that it can wait until 2029: losing the Congress will instantly put the administration on the defensive.

[…]

When you see clips of masked DHS goons hauling off some equally masked anarchist, you may be tempted to cheer. Don’t. Yes, charges will be filed. No, it will not harm the anarchist—it will make his day, his year, and maybe his life. All the money and power in the world will be at his defense. He will not even need to lift a finger to organize his own lawyers, much less pay them. In the end, as with many of the BLM rioters, he will probably be well compensated, with taxpayer funds, for his trouble. Not to mention all the pussy and/or dick s/he will, as a martyr, be entitled to! For the Islamist, this reward is only in heaven. But for the leftist it comes on earth.

The reward for Stephen Miller and his ilk is also on earth. They look tough. They’re doing something. That they are not even doing 0.01% of what it would take to solve the problem—that, at much more risk to themselves, the most they could probably do is 0.05%—matters not. They can milk it as far as it goes. They, too, will sell books. I’m sure they understand this and are doing all they can! Yet this does not change the facts.

[…]

Politics is fundamentally about power. In power, large things are easier than small things. Except for actual assassins, who do have to be thrown off the bus, but at least will not be executed, and will spend the rest of their lives in a safe comfortable place, answering huge stacks of perfumed notes from fans of the appropriate sex, their foot soldiers (who are of course disposable anyway) will be well taken care of. For the Trump administration to use its tiny, marginal power to try to punish its enemies, one by one, is so futile as to be barely worth trying—though it would certainly help if they prioritized this over “bread-and-butter governance.”

Getting rid of all the liberal judges is easier than getting rid of all one liberal judge. Getting rid of all the judges is easier than getting rid of all the liberal judges. Getting rid of the whole legal system is easier than getting rid of all the judges. Getting rid of the whole machine of government is easier than getting rid of the whole legal system. Getting rid of the whole philosophy of government is easier than getting rid of the whole machine of government.

It is not about “dismantling political opposition.” Politics is this establishment’s outer line of defense. It is not their source of power or money. Winning elections does not create liberal power. It protects liberal power. If they lose elections, it is fine, so long as their money and power is protected. While their power is feeling slightly annoyed, it is generally safe. Their money is completely safe—no one is even starting to talk about defunding the endowments, foundations, etc. In any case, even if these funds were taken, their billionaires would just refill them. Personal expropriation or even proscription/attainder is needed. Obviously, a violation of Our Vital Property Rights.

Would all these people, institutions and ideas need replacing? Of course they would. But that’s easy! At least, it’s far easier than impeaching one liberal judge. When the USSR fell, Yeltsin banned the Communist Party. He literally made it illegal as an organization. And, good democratic libertarian that I was, I disapproved. I was like: sadly, this is not getting off on the right track. It wasn’t—but not for that reason.

No: the only danger to this bipartisan kabuki, which has gotten much, much realer in the last 20 years and especially the last 1, is that everyone realizes how fake it is. This is starting to happen—but only starting to happen.

https://graymirror.substack.com/p/you-cant-handle-the-truth

Time will tell if he’s correct.

A2 says:

Yarvin sighs and complains a lot but doesn’t give a clear recipe for what he thinks should be done, presumably because a namefag. I don’t think ‘getting rid of the whole philosophy of government’ is on the table, even if that’s apparently the easiest action available.

We know a lot of helicopters will be needed, commanded by the Cominator. In the meantime, antifa can now be sent to Guantanamo. (I’ve already seen an FT columnist defensively write ‘it’s just an idea, maaan’.) I like that Trump has broken the ‘100 days of activity after election’ paradigm.

Daddy Scarebucks says:

I feel his frustration, but where Yarvin tends to get lost in the weeds is in the execution, and in particular the deployment of violence and the necessity thereof in enacting any kind of power coup.

He says, for instance, that Truth has no army. He is right, of course. More generally, though, words have no army. Suppose Trump, or anyone in the Presidency, were to come out tomorrow and declare “there shall be no more leftist judges, you are all fired” or even “there shall be no more judges, period”. What then? Will they all just stop coming to work?

It’s not that the president can’t, or shouldn’t, do what Yarvin wants him to do. He is right about the prescription, which is, more or less, the same as Jim’s–fire them all and invite them to reapply for their old jobs while making the Affirmation–but unlike Jim, he’s oblivious to the administration of said prescription. If you’ve ever had to pill a cat, you know what I mean; just because you’ve got the solution, and just because the patient needs it, does not mean it is going to be easy to administer.

To do any of the things that Yarvin thinks he should do, Trump needs an army, and he needs to know for certain that the army will be completely loyal, even if some of the ranks are a bit uncomfortable with orders like “tanks in Harvard”. I don’t know if Hegseth’s purge and reordering of the military is really designed to produce that army, or merely to produce a once-again fighting-fit army to ship off to the next third-world hellhole; but whichever it is, it is a necessary prerequisite for any of the “serious” political maneuvering that Yarvin wants to see.

Without an army, those “fired” judges will just say “haha fuck you” and sit on the bench anyway, and invent some legal reason why it was illegal for them to be fired. Even if most initially comply, all it takes is one to rebel; and unless said renegade takes a long walk off a short pier, it then becomes obvious that the emperor has no clothes, and no legitimacy. A kind of inverted Andrew Jackson situation.

I think Yarvin is right that the small measures will be ineffective, insofar as they are actually intended to be effective in that way. However, remember it is all kayfabe, and these small measures might be considerably more effective insofar as they are practice. If those DHS agents can’t even round up a few violent rainbow haired troons, there is no way they are going to have the stomach to round up federal judges. So, first need to make sure that they have the stomach, and are going to follow presidential orders.

Let the DHS agents arrest a few low-level agitators, and let the DHS agents see firsthand how the progressive judges and progressive DAs and progressive aid organizations ensure that those arrested agitators receive freedom plus lavish funding and praise; then the DHS will not need much further convincing to arrest the progressive judges and progressive DAs etc.

If Trump executes the first step but not the second or third or fourth steps, he is doomed. But it is too early to tell if he will stop there. Trump badly wants to capitulate, we know this, but the left is no longer willing to accept surrender. All they had to do in 2025 in order to [eventually] win was nothing, and they did the opposite of that, they went full retard. If they continue to escalate, which they surely will, then Trump will have to escalate in kind, which means going after targets higher in the food chain.

If he fails to escalate in kind, then he loses, and we lose; but I think, to his credit, he knows that is not an option, and he’s just reluctant to make the first move.

Jim says:

General Flynn recently gave us the same facts as Yarvin, from a white pilled perspective. This is D Day, we just successfully stormed the beaches. It was a long way to Berlin, and it is a long way to tanks in Harvard.

Deploying the military to restore order in the cities is a big step to what Yarvin just mentioned — firing all the judges. You don’t fire all the judges, you just render them irrelevant. Then a few years later you can sort through the now redundant judges and ship those of them that need it off to re-education camp in Alaska.

A2 says:

Btw, here is the text of which I was thinking, quoted from a longer piece. It might be useful to read and reflect on how it’s done; count the lies and misdirections. Does it make your blood boil? (NB: Luce and his landsman Martin Wolf on the opinion page are reliably, no invariably against Trump.)

Financial Times, Oct 1, 2025, p. 19. “Why Trump is Going for Soros” by (((Edward Luce))).

… Last week [Trump] ordered federal law enforcement agents to go after leftwing U.S. domestic terrorism. He also designated “Antifa” — anti-fascist — as a terrorist organisation. If it existed, Antifa would doubtless be putting its in-house documentation through a shredder. Alas, there is no Antifa, nor any address or bank account associated with that name.

Apart from the reckless diversion of anti-terrorist firepower against a fiction (let alone the signal this sends to actual terrorists) all this would be futile in a normal rule-of-law climate. The US has suffered from several plots and … shootings by leftwing lone wolves and traditionally many more from rightwing ones. Very few were sponsored by identifiable groups. Hence the term “antifa” which is a placeholder for something that in Maga minds ought to exist. …

Pax Imperialis says:

>Alaska is too beautiful to shit it up, and too close to home.
>Make peace with North Korea and lease their summer camps to house problem people.
>”Forget” about them
>🤔
>Profit

Yes, this is a shit post, but otoh…

The Cominator says:

Why should North Korea benefit from the sale of their organs when we could do so.

Sporadic Commenter says:

Stephen Miller today:

https://xcancel.com/StephenM/status/1974534850334933179#m

“The issue before is now is very simple and clear. There is a large and growing movement of leftwing terrorism in this country. It is well organized and funded. And it is shielded by far-left Democrat judges, prosecutors and attorneys general. The only remedy is to use legitimate state power to dismantle terrorism and terror networks.”

Just one more step, Stephen, and you will be there…

Alf says:

perhaps, Stephen, you are referring to the needed presence of caterpillar tracked vehicles in a certain high-ranking leftwing institution?

Samten Omnisuperessentialiter Gyalpo says:

What is the Jimian opinion on the German Cameralist thinkers like Leibniz, Montesquieu, Justus Lipsius, Veit Ludwig von Seckendorff, Philipp Wilhelm von Hörnigk, Melchior von Osse, Georg Obrecht, Wilhelm Freiherr von Schröder, Joseph von Sonnenfels, Friedrich II, Johann Heinrich Gottlob Justi, Christian Thomasius, Johannes Andreas Bosius, Joachim Jungius, Samuel von Pufendorf, Johann Joachim Becher, Wilhelm von Schröder, Ephraim Gerhard, Julius Bernhard von Rohr, Simon Peter Gasser, Justus Christoph Dithmar, Georg Heinrich Zincke, Johann Friedrich von Pfeiffer, Joachim Georg Darjes, Christian Wilhelm von Dohm, Johann Beckmann, Christian Wolff, Friedrich List, Adam Müller, Johann Gottlieb Fichte, Johann Heinrich Jung-Stiling, Theodor Schmalz, Karl Heinrich, Ludwig Politz, Christoph Besold, Kaspar Klock, Carl Gottlob Rössig, Peter Beuth, Christian Rother, Theodor Anton Heinrich Schmalz, Johan Ludvig Reventlow, Christian Ditlev Reventlow, Johann Jacob Moser, Carl von Moser, Justus Moser, Jakob Friedrich von Bielfeld, Pehr Kalm, Anders Pedersson Kempe, Johann Peter Süßmilch, Emmerich de Vattel, Johann August Schlettwein, Johann Furstenau Hermann, Christian Fürchtegott Gellert, Georg Christian Friedrich Lisch, Christian Friedrich Luben, Johann Jakob Trunk, Christian Julius Schierl von Schierendorff, Georg Christian Oeder, Gerlach Adolph von Münchhausen, Antonio Genovesi, Johann Heinrich Ludwig Bergius, Giambattista Vico, Gaetano Filangieri, Theodor Ludwig Lau, Paolo Mattia Doria, Ramón de Salas y Cortés…?

Jim says:

Bored now.

You, Samten Omnisuperessentialiter Gyalpo, are on moderation, not for being a shill, but for wandering off on long, long, long, sophomoric boring pseudo learned tangents and wasting blog space and reader time.

The very few of the people in that exceedingly long long list that I recognise seem like good guys who were trying to steer Christianity back onto the tracks. It has now gone far, far, further off the tracks, and we we now have a very different and much deeper crisis, so, not that relevant to today. Plus, we now have game theory and evolutionary psychology, which makes a big difference to their program.

To the extent that I recognise any of them, I would say that the faith of Gnon is a continuation of their program, but they were not faced with trannies, mass abortions by “strong empowered women”, the collapse of marriage and fertility, and all that. Things now are very different and more serious, so they are not particularly relevant to today.

As for all of the others: Who?

Samten Omnisuperessentialiter Gyalpo says:

”Bored now.”

Bored of what? Really? My posts are that terrible? How?

You, Samten Omnisuperessentialiter Gyalpo, are on moderation,

tbf, since My first post here under this anthroponym/theonym/theonomy I’ve been moderated & have never been whitelisted to begin with.

not for being a shill, but for wandering off on long, long, long, sophomoric

My intentionality in posting that list, to be honest was to categorize all thinkers taxonomizable as German cameralists or isomorphic to German Cameralism, nothing else, it got somewhat elongated as I named everyone umbrellable as a Cameralist in the past whether heterodox or orthodox.
I reject the proposition & personal insult that anything I’ve said is sophomoric, prove that it is sophomoric, provide a list or indexing anywhere on the internet or in any written book that has a more exhaustive categoriologization of German Cameralism than what I’ve just provided now.

boring pseudo learned tangents and wasting blog space and reader time.

I don’t understand why you’re being so scornful & contemptuous towards Me, perhaps that is true but I value inherent architectonic, semio-ontogenic semiolinguistic complexity & infinitivally long winded symbological prose itself as much if not more than the substance, I’ve already apologized to you for My past insults that were hurled at you in anger, I won’t insult you again but I can’t bend over backwards if you ask Me to change myself on a stylolinguistic level to attenuate to this blog.

The very few of the people in that exceedingly long long list that I recognise seem like good guys who were trying to steer Christianity back onto the tracks.

Yes, even more so they’re utile conceptual ammunition against Marxism 101, Marxology, Marxist eononometrics, Progressive econometrics, London School of Economics, Post-Keynesian economics & the rest which self-posturing right-wingers on twitter which I suppose are shills are pumped full of & gullible ignorant young people are suspectible to fall to their memetic virulence, alot of this is due to predaceous enthymematic presuppositionalist methodeutic of leftists

It has now gone far, far, further off the tracks, and we we now have a very different and much deeper crisis, so, not that relevant to today. Plus, we now have game theory and evolutionary psychology, which makes a big difference to their program.

Sure, but Moldbug argued for Cameralist governance in the past so for Moldbuggians intending to apply Moldbug’s Diagrammata learning about Cameralists & Mercantilist thinkers will be useful.

To the extent that I recognise any of them, I would say that the faith of Gnon is a continuation of their program, but they were not faced with trannies, mass abortions by “strong empowered women”, the collapse of marriage and fertility, and all that. Things now are very different and more serious, so they are not particularly relevant to today.

As for all of the others: Who

I would argue that these thinkers are not entirely worthless, 80% of them are as good as any Carl Schmitt, Jünger, Nietzsche, Schiller, Goethe, Schelling, Schopenhauer or any other hyperlauded thinker in right-wing spheres, atleast on a purely phraseological level & in many other domains too, I agree they are not relevant to the contents of this blog but they’re worth reading imo.

At the end of the day, it’s your place, Cuius regio, eius religio/Cuius Regio Eius Natio/cuius regio eius economia/cuius regio eius industria etc. Peace.

Jim says:

I don’t care about German Cameralism. No one cares about German Cameralism. No one wants to read about German Cameralism. Any future posts on this topic will be silently supressed

It is an economic theory that has been revealed to be stupid, linked to a Christian religious idea that was quite good, but no longer very relevant to our present troubles.

> They’re utile conceptual ammunition against Marxism 101, Marxology, Marxist eononometrics, Progressive econometrics, London School of Economics, Post-Keynesian economics & the rest

It was intended as a counter faith to post Christian socialism. Basically mild socialism with a healthy dose of Gnon compliant Christianity. The socialist part of the prescription turned out to be seriously not Gnon compliant, which poisoned the whole operation, which is now best forgotten.

They intended to be conceptual ammunition against Marxism, but when the dust settled, it became apparent that they were not. This was a failed counter faith against Marxism. The economic part of it poisoned the Christian part.

What we are doing is in the same spirit and intent as what they were trying to do, but one should not try to learn from the losers. Learn from the winners.

> I value inherent architectonic, semio-ontogenic semiolinguistic complexity & infinitivally long winded symbological prose itself

I don’t because it chases my readers away, because it looks stupid and ignorant, giving readers the impression this is a stupid and ignorant blog, and because fails to convey any useful information. Which is why you are on moderation.

You may think everyone is wonderfully impressed by “architectonic, semio-ontogenic semiolinguistic complexity & infinitivally long winded symbological prose” but you just sound stupid and you are making my blog sound stupid. You are running long words together in long sentences without any respect for the meanings of the words and the systems of ideas that they are part of, and anyone who has a faint glimmering of what the words mean and the systems of ideas that they reference is going to think “stupid”. Each of those words has a meaning, and those meanings do not belong together in the same sentence.

The Maga prescription is National Capitalism plus Christian Nationalism based on old type Christianity. This is somewhat similar to the German Cameralist program, but the German Cameralist movement was walking dead from the beginning, while the Maga prescription is obviously very much alive. The trouble was that like the Rinos, they tried to meet the socialists half way and the post Christians half way, while Trump enthusiastically celebrates big capitalists for being successful capitalists and the Christians around him are not trying to tell post Christians that they are more sophisticated than those old type Christians.

Trying to go part way to the enemy position without destroying anything important is a losing strategy. It has lost to the left over and over again for centuries. The left takes the win, pockets it, and then uses it to get to the next win. The German cameralists were apologetic about capitalism, and apologetic about old type Christianity. You never apologise to the left, they will just redouble their efforts to kill you, kill your children, and destroy everything you have built. That is why Trump has responded to accusations of racism by sticking Mexican hats on everything.

Samten Omnisuperessentialiter Gyalpo says:

Fine, there won’t a discussion of Cameralism any longer but you must allow Me to counter-substantiate, if you have such sharp pointed & exbraciating criticisms of Me.

[*deleted because it is a discussion of Cameralism, and if I were to reply to it I would be substantially repeating my previous discussion of Cameralism*]

The economists that are victorious conceptual ammunition?

[deleted for the stylistic reasons I already complained about. No one wants to read such stuff, and it is going to give readers the feeling that this blog is stupid.]

Jim says:

> The economists that are victorious conceptual ammunition?

Obviously Hayek et al were totally and completely victorious in economic theory, their position being concisely and accurately summarised in “Economics in One Lesson” by Henry Hazlitt.

“Mainstream” economists (More accurately referred to as legacy economists, as in legacy media) capitulated in the sense that they tried to find clever workarounds, like being so much in favor of free trade that in order to facilitate trade between nations, all goods should be subject to a common regulatory regime, such that if a pub out beyond the black stump in a Australia wanted to run a frog race, they would have to clear it first with a tower full of three hundred dollars an hour lawyers in New York.

One real flaw in “Economics in one lesson”, is that it leaves out the important fact that production of tech goods has large local positive externalities — the presence of one tech business facilitates the formation of other tech businesses, and that local production of some goods, such as steel, ships, and nuclear reactors, has large positive national security externalities.

The left tends to make a big deal of negative externalities, such as pollution, because they just spitefully hate businessmen from their guts, but businesses also have important positive externalities, while “Economics in One Lesson” assumes we have an efficiently enforced legal system that results in the capture of all positive externalities by the businessman creating them, and the containment of all negative externalities to the businessman creating them. Externalities are out of the scope of “Economics in One Lesson”.

The Sovereign has a right and duty to interfere in the economy to manage externalities, but must be careful to avoid unleashing his overmighty servants to strangle the goose that lays the golden eggs. Some of Trump’s adventures in AI lead me to fear he is being bamboozled by the well known scammers. It is a basic tactic in the long con to lead the mark out of his depth.

I says:

@Jim

The left tends to make a big deal of negative externalities, such as pollution, because they just spitefully hate businessmen from their guts.

Which is a shame because environmental pollution is a legitimate issue. Not the global warming nonsense but the chemicals that end up poisoning, land, air and water including water tables.

Which ends up in our bodies like the endocrine disruptors from birth control in the water supply and so on.

It negatively impacts the heritage of our descendants in terms of the beauty and functionality of the land. And screws with agriculture in the process.

There definitely should be a way to do this without the outright hatred of legitimate Capitalism.

Jim says:

Yes, externalities are a legitimate issue, and right and proper grounds for extensive state intervention.

But observe the trail of trash left behind by every left wing protest, including every left wing environmental protest, and cleanliness of every right wing protest. They don’t give a tinker’s dam about the pollution, it is just a bludgeon that is handy for the unproductive to spitefully lash out at the productive.

A huge problem with state intervention in the economy on externalities is that while the sovereign has a powerful incentive to not kill the goose that lays the golden eggs, the bureaucracy that he inadvertently unleashes has no incentive to keep the golden goose alive, and if the intervention and bureaucracy is motivated by spite and hatred, the intervention is likely to result in a whole lot of economic damage with rather little benefit for the environment.

That our state interventions are focused on negative externalities such as pollution, and, until Trump, completely ignored positive externalities, such as tech and national security, shows a motivation of spite, rather than genuine concern for externalities. As does the trail of trash left behind every environmental protest, and as does the enthusiasm for finding entirely artificial and imaginary pollution externalities.

Neurotoxin says:

“I reject the proposition & personal insult that anything I’ve said is sophomoric, prove that it is sophomoric”

LOL. You can’t buy comedy like this.

Neurotoxin says:

“I value inherent architectonic, semio-ontogenic semiolinguistic complexity & infinitivally long winded symbological prose itself as much if not more than the substance”

No kidding.

Daddy Scarebucks says:

I don’t know… maybe he IS kidding. Maybe this is all intended as some very elaborate self-deprecating, self-referential joke. Maybe it is Brahmin Blackface. Or some other camp.

But if so, needs to work on the delivery a bit. And by a bit, I mean a lot.

Neurotoxin says:

If so, needs to be reminded that brevity is the soul of wit.

Hesiod says:

Word.

Samten Omnisuperessentialiter Gyalpo says:

Oh c’mon.
Mr scarebucks:
It’s natural to feel distressed, aggrieved, heavy-minded, enraged & diminished when one is censored, especially for a creative creature as I.

Jim has already made the pronouncement that I’m on moderation, saying that My unique sense-expression is disunital, disjointed & discoherent and so on.

that leaves no room for sense-reflection.

His reasons might be valid, his reason being that I’m off-topic & derailing the discussion here through My long-winded, redundant, irrelevant, flowery, creative language.

However, since I’m already undercomplexizing here to begin with, it makes it incompossible to post here, I who’s used to writing in an overcomplexified, overproxemic, supersentential, overcontrived dialectology. He’s rejecting Me.

Jim has basically told Me and just declared that I can’t post and everything I say will be deleted unless I’m language-policing & self-diminishing, he’s over-chastising Me in the most disdainful tone possibilium, while telling Me that I need to tone down the overcomplexified phraseological verbosity & lower the verbal IQ of My messages to make them more intelligible & discursive in a commonsensical parlance.

I feel heartbroken to say the least.

There’s nothing I can do, as anything I write to complain about being censored, he can delete for any valid or peripheral, isomorphic, vague, vagueric, vaporous or abstract reason & no reason at all, it’s his website after all and I respect the ineliminability of property rights so cuius regio eius iusgentium.

The most dignified thing I can do to maintain a sense of impeccabilitatem dignitasis and self-animancy say nothing at all, you don’t understand how unprethinkably distressing it is for Me to be rejected by Jim like this in a menacing way, full of disdain and deprecation.

If you were criticised with someone as prominent as Jim with the ability he has shown to have in cryptography & engineering you’ll be illimitably distressed too.

but Jim simply isn’t interested in hearing anything I have to say so I don’t expect any sympatheia.

If I elongate this more I’ll come across as overly self-defensive but I’m not self-deprecating, if anything that is diametrically-diagrammatically obverse to everything I am on a Seinsological level.

To really answer your question about this being a “bit” or not:

I am basically an egoist-egologicist, so I respect the individualist property rights of others.
As an egological Buddhist I basically consider myself a Cosmocratic King, a Godking with a Supra-personal Destiny to rule over Eurasia, Inner Asia and perhaps as a Supramundane Mahācakravartin King reach unsurpassable enlightenment, being self-deprecating is ontologically incommensurable for Me.

I do want to get whitelisted and reach an understanding with Jim, but since his criticism has already been very direct, heavy as a superalloy, I dare not ask what his terms would be to reach an agreement.

Jim says:

I am really sorry you feel like that. I don’t want to upset you.

But neither do I want my readers to be bored and irritated.

Your writing is self indulgent. You are writing for yourself, and not for your readers. You want to be published, but you have no right to be published.

This makes you sad, it makes every writer that no one wants to read sad. And I regret that I am the one making you sad.

But what is making you sad is not really me, it is that you want people to read your stuff, and I doubt that people want to read your stuff. You are not moderation for shill content, nor banned for commercial content (a whole lot of people get onto the ignore list for shilling scamcoins, or posting links to websites selling random stuff.) You are on moderation for writing for yourself, not for this blog, nor for the reader. You are on moderation for self indulgent publishing.

Anonymous says:

Samten, why don’t you get a blog?

FrankNorman says:

Maybe people will take your opinions a bit more seriously if you stop using capitalized pronouns as if you think you’re a Person of the Godhead, or something.

Samten Omnisuperessentialiter Gyalpo says:

heh, an obvious neologism in My style would be ‘architectonolinguistics’.

Jim says:

Your style is more popular with writers than readers.

The Cominator says:

Jim writes in a way to convey information as simply and clearly as he can. Be like Jim. I hate writing styles that give the impression people are paid by the word.

Sher Singh says:

woman’s loyalty to her husband is often contingent upon his alignment with, or dominance within, the broader tribe or community. If she perceives that he has lost status, or that others no longer regard him as legitimate, her loyalty can waver, not necessarily due to disloyalty, but due to deeply embedded survival logic.

https://noahrevoy.substack.com/p/why-leading-women-requires-a-different?utm_campaign=posts-open-in-app&triedRedirect=true

Patriarchy = fertility

dharmicreality says:

Some additional notes:

The reason why women are absolutely incapable of being in any kind of leadership position let alone top leadership/management position is not just because of their evolutionary emotional instability (though that contributes a lot to their inability) but also their natural high time preference short-term thinking, incapability of looking at the “big picture” and also incapacity for higher abstract thinking.

Women are more detail-oriented and task-oriented and putting them in leadership roles at best will create a suffocating environment of excessive micro-management, poor long-term decision making and lack of innovation, regardless of the emotional stability of the woman involved. Even the women who have “masculinzed” enough to “fit” into such roles suffer from inability for long-term and abstract thinking. Men are simply better at this, biologically because of evolutionary reasons.

It’s not that men aren’t capable of task-and-detail oriented work though, but in my own experience, men get bored and extremely unhappy when doing repetitive task-and-detail oriented work. We have a tendency to forget details, because we instinctively think about the big picture.

The only reason I can think that old-school feminism “kind of worked” was mostly because all those women in factories worked on repetitive task-and-detail oriented work under the supervision of men, and even all those “successful women in leadership” positions were probably guided by some invisible male hand while remaining figurehead leaders. However, once feminism became holier, “women empowerment” became too sincere for things to work.

Patriarchy, far from being the “oppressive” system it is, is simply natural law at work, putting men and women in roles to which they belong and women clearly belong under the supervision and active guidance of men, whether at home or at work because women are simply better at repetitive task and detailed-oriented work, and managing a predictable environment like home.

gq says:

Can someone please tell me what is the problem with two men sucking each other’s cock in Private?
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Jim says:

If poofters are in the closet and stay in the closet, so that everyone can pretend they do not exist, not a problem.

But poofters love to shove their sexuality into the public space and cultural space, which shoves straight sexuality out of the public space and cultural space. It is legal for someone identifying as a male to interact sexually with someone identifying as female, but the sexual interaction characteristic of straight men and straight women is no longer portrayed in media, is forcefully discouraged, and is in significant part illegal.

The mating dance is inherently asymmetric for men and women. If men do not perform it correctly we don’t get laid and don’t get family and children. And the inherently asymmetric mating dance is nowhere portrayed or admitted to, so men below a certain age have never learnt to perform it.

Keeping poofters in the closet requires strenuous measures. Gay needs to be suppressed Poofs off roofs.

Rizolt says:

Jim, can you please exhibit where he said anything about GAY IN PUBLIC, or about WOMEN?
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Alf says:

As jim said, private sodomy were fine, if it kept private. But it never does. Gay men have sex in piles and conspire in those piles how to (often rather forcibly) lure young boys to their orgies. Part of their scheme is normalizing their behavior by stigmatizing normal sexual relations between man and woman. By the nature of their sin they are unable to keep it private. Hence, needs to be supressed.

The Cominator says:

We should also look into curing the biological basis of homosexuality if we get into power…

Mossadnik says:

Have been saying this all along. To categorize it as an illness in need of a cure (better yet: prevention), tanks in Harvard. The buttworms will undoubtedly do absolutely everything possible to prevent the biological eradication of their disease; and yet it’s inevitable if civilizational extropy is to triumph over civilizational entropy, and what’s more, might even be easier than curing cancer.

Faggot-Free Future!

Sporadic Commenter says:

Re-classifying it as a disease is easier than that — referenda to ban “gay” “marriage” were wildly popular even among people with no stomach for harsh measures against individual sodomites.
It is, tautologically, a reproductive disorder. Mis-targeted erotic attraction.

Forced cures for this disorder will require tanks at Harvard though.

Handi says:

No. ***BLAMM***

Fidelis says:

News of the day, but perhaps worth mentioning anyway. London stock market has reached a new bottom in irrelevance.

The UK exchange now sits in 23rd place, behind even Oman, after IPO volumes plunged 69% this year to just $248 million—the weakest fundraising haul in more than 35 years.

https://archive.is/GP8by

This represents a 99% drop since 2006. The insane policies are noticeable by the moneyed class, and are being punished accordingly. The UK can be counted as a third world country that does not yet realize its status. Among younger brits, Dubai is extremely popular, and getting there is the new wealth and status game. Accordingly, predictably, leftists hate the place even more than before.

The Cominator says:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWLbq7PlrIA
Ugly chick blames women for everything and says fire all the HR ladies, I’m shocked.

Mossadnik says:

Highly unattractive women, like highly attractive women, generally hate fellow foids far more than they hate men. The seething misandrists are usually the mids, the 5/10s, women who neither particularly ugly nor particularly attractive.

notglowing says:

https://x.com/curtis_yarvin/status/1975034511118475636
Yarvin blackpilling:

The second Trump revolution, like the first, is failing. It is failing because it deserves
to fail. It is failing because it spends all its time patting itself on the back. It is failing
because its true mission, which neither it nor (still less) its supporters understand, is
still as far beyond its reach as algebra is beyond a cat. Because the vengeance meted
out after its failure will dwarf the vengeance after 2020—because the successes of the
second revolution are so much greater than the first—everyone involved with this
revolution needs a plan B for 2029. And it is not even clear that it can wait until 2029:
losing the Congress will instantly put the administration on the defensive.

It is not about “dismantling political opposition.” Politics is this establishment’s outer
line of defense. It is not their source of power or money. Winning elections does not
create liberal power. It protects liberal power. If they lose elections, it is fine, so long
as their money and power is protected. While their power is feeling slightly annoyed, it
is generally safe. Their money is completely safe—no one is even starting to talk about
defunding the endowments, foundations, etc. In any case, even if these funds were
taken, their billionaires would just refill them. Personal expropriation or even
proscription/attainder is needed. Obviously, a violation of Our Vital Property Rights.
Would all these people, institutions and ideas need replacing? Of course they would.
But that’s easy! At least, it’s far easier than impeaching one liberal judge. When the
USSR fell, Yeltsin banned the Communist Party. He literally made it illegal as an
organization. And, good democratic libertarian that I was, I disapproved. I was like:
sadly, this is not getting off on the right track. It wasn’t—but not for that reason.

I can’t say his reasoning is wrong, but he’s also coming off as too demoralizing and pessimistic – it’s not very useful.

Sadly, I think he’s right that progress towards eliminating the ultimate sources of leftwing power has been scarce. Every time Trump scores a victory (defunding USAID, CRS) it becomes obvious how much deeper it goes, and how surface level the damage is.
It doesn’t matter if we keep damaging them. As Machiavelli said, enemies ought to be caressed or destroyed. Simply hurting them, even if it means many leftists lose their jobs or have their lives ruined, isn’t doing much in the long term.

Small whitepill:
https://x.com/EricLDaugh/status/1975257259832975640

“We will continue to get to the bottom of who is funding these organizations in this organized anarchy against our country and our government.”

The problem is, even if they do find them, it’s unlikely it will lead to charges never mind a conviction.
The administration is trying – and they are doing a lot of good. But if the results always fall short of hitting the ultimate target, what good is it? They can just bear with it and wait it out.

The one positive, is that the popularity of the right isn’t waning. It’s possible they will continue to win elections for a while, perhaps the midterms for the time being. But it’s a precarious position to be in.

Fidelis says:

I too agree that not enough has been done to fortify the elections and protect our democracy, but Yarv is not mentioning the very real power Don is grabbing. Possibly by strategy; Yarv is well aware the few remaining coordinated left are well aware of him. By acting like all is lost, like Don is doing nothing but bumbling, he is trying to sooth their frayed nerves.

By the looks of it, Hegseth has the military, and will more and more have the military as time goes on. ICE is expanding. The FBI is dangerous, but primarily made up of twink gays, fat lesbians, and other assorted freaks. I doubt they have much power of the sort Mao preferred. ICE is not exactly dangerously clever, but it is staffed by cops willing to be cops for Don, and willing to ignore lefty criticism for being cops for Don.

The midterms are quite a ways away. I am frequently lamenting the lack of election fortification, the lack of organizational backing for non-centralized sources of power, such as the well-put-together American man willing to shoot criminals without pay, but at least Don has reached for real power. We will see how things proceed. We might see a congress entirely filled with gerontocrats and freaks waving trans flags, but rendered entirely toothless by the shifts of power. Don, after all, never disbanded DOGE, once titled the “United States Digital Service”, which is computerizing the presidency. He can have his cabinet run the government, introduce some clownshow controversy in the Capitol, and let the lefty boomers and remaining trannies screech about that. According to them, he’s already a dictator, what else do they have to throw at him.

Daddy Scarebucks says:

what else do they have to throw at him.

Bullets and bricks. Which they already tried, and failed, but in light of recent events, I would fully expect them to take another crack at.

They are playing the provoke and DARVO game, and playing it very seriously, playing to win. They want to see a crackdown–or rather, they want to see the kind of toothless crackdown they are accustomed to, which gets them accolades and media attention and a light slap on the wrist just for show. On the other hand, if their leaders start waking up in Gitmo, and the low-level agitators simply disappear without a trace, they might start to rethink this strategy.

Fidelis says:

In 2024, and the first half of 2025, perhaps that would have worked. Now, not so much. The first attempt seemed to stiffen the spines of some Thermidor, a successful carrying out while we have JD as Commander in Chief and Hegseth as SecWar would be absolutely disastrous for them. Don is nothing if not the velvet glove, and we are here discussing if there is an iron fist within that glove. I doubt a newly minted president Vance would play softball the same way, especially with a national mandate to quit playing softball already. The murder of Gaius Julius made Octavian into Augustus, and I suspect a murder of Trump would have similar outcomes.

Mossadnik says:

“Jim’s Blog is the only website I ever visit.” – JD Vance

(It’s a joke. But there’s a grain of truth in every joke.)

Mossadnik says:

Also, I have little doubt that he is reading Yarvin. He understands what we understand, basically. However, President Vance will need Thermidor’s continued allegiance, and I’m not entirely sure they would be as loyal to him as they are loyal to President Trump – at least initially. But then again, the ever more deranged Left can be counted on to behave insanely enough to absolutely guarantee Thermidor’s break rightward, whoever is in the WH.

Jim says:

It is completely obvious that if the left had simply sat back and piously said “the people have spoken, we will wait till they come to their senses”, then they would be back in power soon enough.

But they were shocked and outraged when the elected government attempted to actually govern, and simply will not stand for it. “So kill all fascists” is now mainstream moderate left. And everyone to the right of tranny Pol Pot is a fascist. If Asmongold is “openly fascist”, all normies are openly fascist.

Asmongold is a totally normie apolitical gamer and former Bernie Sander’s supporter. He was radicalised when the left came for his beloved games. If you don’t like the games you are told you should like, you are openly fascist. Because Asmongold was giving game reviews the left did not like, he was “openly fascist”.And when enough people attacked normie gamer Asmongold for being openly fascist, he started pushing back.

I recall Asmongold reviewing some violently objectionable and stridently left wing propaganda — and he was completely oblivious to the fact that it was leftist and morally repugnant. There was not a political thought in his head. He reviewed it purely as a not fun game experience. Fascist!

alf says:

All normies are branded fascist, thus the wind turns in our favor. But the wind is fickle, and we are constantly playing this game where we are analyzing whether this or that leaf blows in our direction.

The missing puzzle piece, which Yarvin lacks and Mossadnik refers to, is a uniting faith. The meek shall inherit the world, meek referring to spiritual discipline, that which persists despite changing winds.

We are now in the stage of agreement over disagreement (against the left), but not in a state of agreement over agreement (of the definition of the right). We will not attain full agreement, a big circus tent of coalition is fine. But within that tent, we must have smaller tents, like the original tabernacle, that increasingly filter for shills and enemies.

The faith within that tent must be Jimian protestantism. It requires minimal conversion, is immediately applicable and, I can’t stress this enough, will solve all of our current problems. Jimian protestantism follows the will of God closest bar none.

Hegseth might already be there. Vance needs to say goodbye to his Catholicism. But even if neither of them convert, the future will belong to those who do.

Mossadnik says:

Outer Christianity is being shed for inner Christianity. “Which denomination you belong to?” will become an increasingly moot question, as “What faith you abide by?” will come into focus. (In a world of mass illiteracy sans smart phones, these might well have been one and the same. Not anymore.)

The Anglo-Protestant future has therefore summoned an Anglo-Protestant prophet. “Random pseudonymous persons performing ad hoc thought experiments online,” in the words of Oven Dude, is exactly how God’s Will is made intelligible in this early third millennium. (“In the beginning was the Troll…” is on point here.) One suspects that Land grasps the issue far better than Yarvin does, for the obvious reasons.

benito says:

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Mossadnik says:

Malcolm Pollack has returned from a trip to Britain.

He reports:

We’ve returned from our trip to Britain. We got around quite a bit — three nights in London, then a train to Edinburgh (where my mum grew up), where we spent another three nights. Then we rented a car and drove off to the Lake District, a stunningly beautiful area we’d never visited. After two nights there (we stayed in a little town called Keswick), we drove to Snarestone, a country village northeast of Birmingham, and spent the night with my cousin Claire, who has a lovely old house there.

Then we drove to Bath, where we spent two nights and visited my aunt and two of my other cousins, then to Oxford, where we dropped off the car and spent one night, then it was a train back to London and the flight home from Heathrow the following day.

It was a lot of zooming around, and more than a bit tiring at our age, but the sightseeing was enjoyable and it was good to visit with the family.

I have to say, though, that the trip was ultimately rather depressing: it would be hard to overstate how utterly doomed the ancient British nation and people are. Among the staff of the shops, hotels, and restaurants we visited, we hardly ever even heard a British accent. (In particular, I’d been looking forward to hearing Scottish accents in Edinburgh, and hardly heard a one.)

In London, the cab drivers were still mostly English, and to a one they asked me what I thought about Trump; once I said that I was glad he’d won the election, and that he was a necessary correction to the damage that had been done over the past few decades, they felt free to unburden themselves about the moribund state of England. The tone was unvarying: weary, hopeless resignation, and mourning for the homeland they had lost.

The British people have annihilated not only their own future, but also the magnificent, thousand-year legacy that all of their ancestors had bequeathed to them as stewards for generations yet unborn. All of it is just gone, destroyed. In a generation or two, Britain will be an Islamic nation; the only thing that can possibly prevent this is a furious awakening of the virile and indomitable spirit that once ruled the world, and it would have to happen now.

But it won’t. The only ones who seem to care enough, or even to realize what has been lost, are now too old — and as far as I can tell, they’ve already given up.

It’s all very sad.

https://archive.is/NSj1N

Those posting “There’ll Always Be an England” might not fully grasp how bad things really are.

It is very sad.

Contaminated NEET says:

It rubs me the wrong way when I see Americans lament the death of England (I guess you’re Israeli, but whatever – you’re Master to our Blaster; we’re a unit) England is in a far better place demographically and even politically than the USA. They can still come back from this. White English still have a solid majority, and young White English men are starting to defy their globohomo masters openly. They’ll probably still lose, but they have a chance. The USA is under 40% White and dropping like a stone, and the only opposition we offer is ballots to elect blackmailed controlled opposition.

Mossadnik says:

Europe is in a much worse state than America. The latter still contains some sane people, and is not being rapidly Islamized. The former is run by full on full retard lunatics, and is being rapidly Islamized. Declining fertility is a problem in the entire West, but America still has a decent chance to survive as a Christian, white-majority nation into the next century; Europe really does not. Look at the demographic trends. Sure, an autogenocide of Legacy Americans event can turn this around. But I don’t think America is currently headed for hot autogenocide of Legacy Americans. More like a slow decline. Europe is definitely a few decades away from being conquered by hostile foreigners and/or bloody civil war.

WAKE UP GOYIM

Contaminated NEET says:

>America still has a decent chance to survive as a Christian, white-majority nation into the next century

America is 35% White right now, and that 35% is disproportionately past the age of reproduction. The official numbers are are slightly better than that, but they’re skewed by lies, specifically by counting Mestizo and MENA brownoids as White. Humpty-Dumpty is already in a million pieces on the pavement. There is no coming back from this without a genocide that would make WWII look like a friendly rugby match.

>Well, who is going to save England?

I don’t know. Probably nobody. But, cometh the hour, cometh the man… Maybe. They’re probably as fucked as we are. However, as of right now, there’s still something to save over there. England’s demographics could conceivably be fixed without the bloody civil war you predict, while America’s are past the point of no return. Bloody civil war is the best case scenario for the USA. Gradual decay in Brazil Norte, followed by further gradual decay in South Africa II is the smart way to bet.

>You are a Blue Tribe Supremacist, in denial or otherwise.

Yeah, no kidding. They’ve been wiping the floor with us politically, culturally, intellectually, memetically, and military for centuries, long before one of their propagandists came up with the “Red State/Blue State” terms. Maybe the tide has finally turned. More likely, all this Trump nonsense is hormetic for the Left, more like an invigorating workout than a serious fight to the death.

Jim says:

> They’ve been wiping the floor with us politically, culturally, intellectually, memetically, and military for centuries, long before one of their propagandists came up with the “Red State/Blue State” terms. Maybe the tide has finally turned

We have been around this merry go round many times before.

The end state of leftism is infinite leftism in finite time. Everyone murders everyone else for insufficient leftism.

As this end state comes in sight, it is end leftism or die. By and large, most of the time, a sufficient number of sufficiently powerful people choose to live. Sometimes they do not, and literally everyone dies in hot autogenocide, as for example the Seven Kill Stele, but this is less common.

Contaminated NEET says:

>We have been around this merry go round many times before.

Indeed we have. And I still agree with you in the big-picture long run. I disagree that we’re anywhere near that point. This is a speed bump on the road to Leftist singularity, not Bonaparte putting a stop to it. “There’s a lot of ruin in a nation,” said Adam Smith, which can be taken in two ways. The USA, for all its terminal illnesses, is still working reasonably well for now. I’m fond of saying that our next stop is Brazil Norte, but for now we’re still quite a bit more prosperous and stable than Brazil Classico, and the Brazilian government has been chugging along for decades without collapsing into chaos nor being saved by a Stalin.

Once everything does fall apart, which I agree will happen sooner or later, it’s far from guaranteed that we will be the builders and rulers of the new order that eventually rises from the ashes.

Jim says:

> I disagree that we’re anywhere near that point

They are now calling each other fascist. They are going to very shortly be exterminating each other.

This is why the techlords came over. They saw their own names on the death lists.

The death lists continue to grow rapidly.

Daddy Scarebucks says:

it’s far from guaranteed that we will be the builders and rulers

What do you mean “we”, kemosabe? What have you contributed?

You’re good at hedging your bets, not openly advocating for leftist positions but still consistently adopting the stance of, as Mossadnik aptly put it, a blue-tribe supremacist, always positive that they are winning and going to win and that there is absolutely nothing anyone can do to stop them.

Hedging might very well keep you in the party, but it is not going to get you invited to the after-party.

Alf says:

it’s far from guaranteed that we will be the builders and rulers of the new order

Yeah I’ll jump on this too.

Are you married? Are you raising children? Building alliances on the ground? Preparing for mad max? Helping Jim program rhocoin?

It is very hard to escape the impression that you enjoy complaining a lot more than you enjoy working on solutions.

Fidelis says:

Why are you obsessed with proportions like this? If you wanted to blackpill about this, may as well count the ratio according to world population. It would make almost as much sense, and be a much scarier number.

Democracy is over, or we all get gulaged. No need to worry about keeping some voting majority. No one is marrying, and the people producing the most children are about the worst around as far as genetic health and personality go, but there is not an extinction level of outbreeding.

On the issues that matter, americans are much better off. Juros with any truly right wing sensibility are vanishingly rare, and their imports much more organized and dangerous. We have cartel mercenaries incapable of planning, they have true believing mohammedans thinking in generational terms. They have some vestigial christians, americans have many more.

Daddy Scarebucks says:

America is 35% White right now, and that 35% is disproportionately past the age of reproduction. The official numbers are are slightly better than that, but they’re skewed by lies, specifically by counting Mestizo and MENA brownoids as White.

America is over 60% white, with less than 1% of that being attributable to MENA and none of it being Mestizo. If you want, you can subtract the 5% of “White Hispanic” that the census counts as white, though they are not Mestizo either (maybe “Castizo”).

55% is lower than it should ideally be, but it is not 35%. I don’t know where you came up with the 35%, but it’s false.

Even if it were 35%, which it isn’t, it matters what precisely is in whatever the real % is. A thousand Englishmen ruled the Raj. Similar stories for Rhodesia and South Africa, the latter of which still survives despite absurd levels of repression, and both of which only suffered in the first place because of (white) western interference, not because of competition with the locals.

Europe is cucked, America is not yet completely cucked, simple as that. Russia’s demographics aren’t great either, which shows that demographics aren’t everything; it’s a question of will. Blah blah demography is destiny and all that, but you ignore the more crucial spiritual issues. It is not browns and blacks that are the biggest danger to whites, nor even Muslims, unless in extremely large numbers; it is white leftists, who are a tiny minority in America but a supermajority in western/northern Europe.

Contaminated NEET says:

The numbers are lies. How many illegal immigrants are in the USA? 11 million. It’s a verified fact which you can discover in any reputable source, and it’s been exactly 11 million for the last 25 years. You’d have to be mentally retarded to believe that, and yet, every TV network, every newspaper, every textbook will tell you that it is simply a fact. They are deliberately low-balling the count to keep the White population feeling secure and complacent as they replace us.

As for the census, “Mestizo” is not a category, nor is “Castizo,” and “Hispanic” is a culture not a race. So what does 40% Indio 60% Castellano, 5’4″ Jorge mark down on the form? Hispanic, of course. But then he’s got to pick a race. What are his options? American Indian or Alaska Native? Maybe, if he’s into Leftism or La Raza stuff, but most of them know what Indios are and look down on them, and certainly don’t count themselves among them. Black or African American? Hell no. Asian? Nope. Check multiple boxes? It’s an option, and some do it, but I bet most don’t, and even when they do, one of those boxes is White, which gives the lying thieving bureaucrats license to count him in your 60%. I don’t have any hard numbers, and neither does anyone else, because the people responsible for gathering those numbers use them to lie to us and would prefer nobody even think about this question. I will say I would be utterly shocked if your 60% White figure didn’t include at least half the clearly non-White Hispanics in the USA. Look at those wanted posters where every visibly Azteca felon is classified as White. The same people who decided that gather your census numbers.

How about Subcontinentals? The form clearly states that they’re included in Asian, and yet I’m certain a significant portion end up in your White total. There’s the whole “Aryan” thing that a lot Indians are quite proud of, and then there’s the fact that you can see them online advising each other to check White explicitly to keep our guard down as they build their numbers and power.

Daddy Scarebucks says:

It’s one thing to disbelieve official numbers based on internal inconsistency or implausibility in the face of observed reality; it’s quite another to simply make up your own numbers out of thin air.

Supposing the official figures lie about the number of illegals, to the tune of 20-30 million (Ann Coulter’s estimate, also somewhat arbitrary, but plausible). Okay, so instead of 60 million out of 320 million (slightly under 20%) you have 90 million out of 350 million (about 25%). This is the absolute worst-case plausible scenario. Do the math; it does not get you anywhere close to the 35% white figure you posted.

I live in a mostly White and Christian area, because I choose to live in a mostly White and Christian area. Maybe 1 in 100 are black; maybe another 5-10 in 100 are some sort of Latino, Asian or other non-white. Obviously, not all parts of the USA are 90% white; but a lot of parts are. Far more common is around 70-80%. The very worst demographics I have seen in a “normal” city (i.e. excluding failed/failing metros like Detroit or Atlanta, and some towns in Texas that are literally on the border) would probably be California. And California was not 35% white. It was dismal and depressing, no question, with various browns and yellows in substantial presence everywhere I looked, but still closer to 50% white.

When you put out arbitrarily low figures like 35%, you are outing yourself as an urbanite. You obviously live in one of the deepest blue parts of the country and have always lived there, and don’t have any Amerikaner-coded hobbies that would put you around normie white people, so these figures probably feel consistent with what you see in your bubble, and you imagine that the entire rest of the country is like what you see in your bubble. It is not what the rest of the country looks like; it is only what the blue state megalopoli look like, and even then, not applicable to all of them, and not applicable to all areas of the ones to which it generally applies.

You would probably see an immense improvement in your quality of life if you simply moved elsewhere. But then you wouldn’t get to complain as much.

Jim says:

> As for the census

If you worry about the census you suffer from normality bias. A few percent of whites can rule any other group, even including Han, though the Han counter measure of seductive assimilation has always proven effective when they found themselves ruled by a foreign minority.

Mossadnik says:

You are a Blue Tribe Supremacist, in denial or otherwise. I am not. I really do believe in Red Tribe Americans. No, I don’t like the anti-Israel shills who have embedded themselves among them. But in general, these are my cho- errr favorite people. If someone restores civilization for real (with all due respect to muh Israel), it will be Real Americans.

What Restoration-capable elements in Europe are there? When I ask Europeans themselves this question, they have no answer. Well, who is going to save England? Or France? Or any of the others in Northwestern Europe?

A2 says:

It seems quite difficult to effect change within the system, whether EU or local. There are a couple of good examples, Denmark probably foremost (but they are tiny).

For instance, will Nigel Farage do what needs to be done? Alas, it seems unlikely. Britain had Brexit as an excuse but the establishment was and is hell-bent on suicide.

France has equally severe problems, I guess they should start by nuking Marseille to stop the flow. Force de frappe. But who will push the button? Certainly not Macron. The impartial majesty of justice banned Le Pen, so that’s out. Their inability to form a functioning government might still give some hope. Or it might not.

Germany is already in the loony bin (diagnosis: severe nazi paranoia). How many more elections will be needed to correct the course? I’m seeing more judicial interference in their political future.

Italy might have a based population, at least. They have a history of violent action. Meloni is right wing but quite wobbly. Will they awaken?

Spain: not sure, they might be whistling past the graveyard (most enrichers choose to move on to richer climes). Nasty and incompetent socialist regime last I checked.

Sporadic Commenter says:

>> What Restoration-capable elements in Europe are there?

The obvious answer is to make friends with Russia and the non-globohomo Eastern European countries, who can contribute military manpower to help the natives do a literal Clean Sweep of the continent.

Of course this requires the natives to first do a Trumpish hostile takeover of their Rainbow Curtain governments. But that seems to be in progress in a number of the countries. The GAE is losing power slowly but steadily even in Europe.

Mossadnik says:

NOW – Trump will classify Antifa a foreign terrorist organization.

https://x.com/disclosetv/status/1976030029089001887

Donald Trump is my President and that I’m not American is totally beside the point. TRUMP IS MY PRESIDENT.

Also, the Republic is dead, and Democrats must never win another election, ever.

notglowing says:

Being a *foreign* terrorist organization gives the administration a lot more latitude for dealing with them. The idea of designating them as such was being spammed by right wing twitter a few weeks ago, trying to get the cabinet’s attention.
I wonder if that weighed on this decision at all.

On the other hand, I believe they recently found that some of the original US Antifa founders were hiding in Sweden, which might be why.

Hesiod says:

https://x.com/WallStreetApes/status/1976030014614421936

Meat of the tweet:

White House releases names funding Antifa, protests and violence in America

We paid for our own protests with over $100 million laundered by Democrats

“We found a network of NGOs”

– George Soros, the Open Society Network
– Arabella Funding Network
– The Tides FIShing Network
– Neville Roy Singham and his network
– Johann Georg “Hansjörg” Wyss a billionaire donor in Switzerland
– Additional Foreign Cash

“It’s also big left-wing funders, some of them who are not citizens of this country, Mr. Hans JorgJorg WyssSwitzerland, they’re pouring money into this entire ecosystem.”

“We have identified dozens of radical organizations, not just the decentralized Antifa organizations, but dozens of radical organizations that have received more than $100 million from the Riot Inc investors.”

“I think the most shocking thing is that we have found that more than $100 million in US taxpayer funding has flowed into these funding networks”

Bix Nudelmann says:

“Riot Inc”. They’ve given it a name, so now it’s a thing. Extremely important.

notglowing says:

It is high time we shut down League Of Legends. Please, Mr President

Hesiod says:

Discord is getting some attention:

https://x.com/KenPaxtonTX/status/1976305047165337771

BREAKING: I’m investigating Discord after the platform was used by the reported assassin who murdered Charlie Kirk.

Discord has chosen to allow extremist content, sexual exploitation, and addiction to flourish on its platform.

Bix Nudelmann says:

“GAE in Exile” indeed. They’re decamping to the provinces like the whites in the Russian Civil War.

A2 says:

While the transatlantic tail is now wagging the dog, I seem to recall Antifa originally a European organization. So it doesn’t seem excessive to call it foreign.

Based Glowie says:

(Using a new alias for anonymity)

@Pax_Imperalis and anyone else familiar with the federal government:

Would it be wise at this time to seek out a job with the federal government or with its contractors? I am a tech worker with an active low-level federal security clearance from a past job with a DHS contractor which I did not find fulfilling. Is it worth it for a Trump supporter to dive into the federal job market again in search of white-collar work, and if so, what should I look for?

Mossadnik says:

The shills were telling you that Trump should drop Israel and the Arab Nations, and instead shift to a pro-Iranian foreign policy.

I believe everyone (who isn’t a shill, or a Democrat; categories that often overlap) is glad that Trump did not do that. Had Trump listened to the shills, this moment would never have come. Iran can now go fuck itself, and the pro-Iranian shills can go fuck themselves too. Soon you will see Peace Agreements between Israel and the Arab Nations; the Abraham Accords will expand, and expand, and expand! And, of course, the Holy Emperor of the Ocean Lands will get most of the credit for these achievements, not to mention a beautiful plot of real estate, aka Trump Gaza.

(I like the Persian People, but screw the Ayatollah Regime and its paid/volunteer mouthpieces.)

BLESSED ARE THE PEACEMAKERS!

Hesiod says:

Y’all had Greta on a boat and didn’t sink it? WTF, Mossadnik?

Mossadnik says:

If Gaza is actually resolved for good, one has to wonder what Greta (or rather her handlers) will pick as the “next big thing.” I doubt she’ll be doing the Free Palestine bit forever; there’s no shortage of other applecarts to knock over for Lucifer.

The Cominator says:

Shutup and get me onto that 7 grand per pro Israel post deally. I’ll just shit on the free Palestine people (they’ll still be out there) all the time its not because I’m super duper pro Israel but I can zealously and sincerely shit on those people.

Cloudswrest says:

Years ago I predicted this would eventually happen! Caltrans demolishes and removes famous Bay Area landmark statue of Fr. Junipero Serra in the middle of the night without public input.

https://x.com/MattWallace888/status/1976084591078482349

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