For several millenia, there has been a rule in warfare:
If you will not make peace, and lose, and still will not make peace, you die. This is genocide, and Israel is right now carrying out genocide in Gaza, and people are getting used to it.
Some genocides, for example the attempted genocide of the Tutsi in Rwanda, which was attempted deniably by Globohomo empire proxies with air and artillery support by white Globohomo troops, and the successful genocide of some Tutsi related groups in the Congo, also carried out by proxies with white air and ground support, have been performed for utterly trivial, wicked, evil, and frivolous reasons, and were clearly illegitimate. Globohomo eliminated the Tutsi where it could for the same frivolous reasons as they eliminated the red wolves, and replaced the red wolves with something that they bred in the lab. But if the winner offers a somewhat tolerable peace, and the loser will not accept, or is unable to accept, what else can the winner do?
At Nuremberg, a new post Westphalian order was announced. Obeying the sovereign was no longer acceptable. You had to adhere to a higher moral order. Whose moral order? Not God’s. Whose?
Well, it turned out to be Harvard’s moral order, which has rapidly mutated to something evil and intolerable. But the rule against genocide seems quite reasonable, except it is selectively imposed and creatively interpreted. It was selectively imposed and creatively interpreted because it is not reasonable. War is horrible, genocidal war especially horrible, but we don’t really have a solution for war, therefore we don’t really have a solution for genocide. You need the credible possibility of genocide to force the loser to make peace, and also to remind people how terrible war is. What happened instead is that genocide was pretended away, with the result that it came to pass that peoples were genocided for frivolous and abhorrent reasons. Obama had a go at genociding the Alawites, seemingly because they refused to have an education system dominated by childless women.
The Nuremberg order is hypocrisy. And its hypocrisy has now become transparent. The trouble with hypocrisy is that piously proclaiming adherence to impractical moral principles is apt to lead to not better behaviour, but worse. Because Holocaustianity teaches that genocide is the worst thing in the world and the new moral order guarantees there will be no more genocide, genocide was attempted, and sometimes succeeded, frivolously.
If tech civilisation does not decline and collapse, well, we are all going to get more and more powerful weapons, and yes, we do need a higher moral order to avoid destroying ourselves. But the Nuremberg higher order has lost credibility. “The rules based order.” Whose rules?
Our best prospects to avoid the nukes flying in the near future is a return to the Westphalian order. Once Westphalia is in force again, then we can start thinking about the Christian laws of just war, and then we can start thinking about a higher moral order. During the concert of Europe this actually worked. It can work again. But that higher moral order has to focus, as it focused in the Concert of Europe, on not starting wars that are likely to get too big, rather than not finishing a war once it has started. War is hell. That cannot be fixed. What can be done, because it was done for quite a while, is avoiding really big wars.
The Nato states on Russia’s border are an intolerable threat to Russia, because Russians plausibly believe they lack real sovereignty. If they do lack real sovereignty, they may be unable to make peace, necessitating a genocidal solution. People are refusing to think about this, because genocide is unthinkable. They should have thought about it before the 2014 coup in the Ukraine, and before Nato shells from Avdeevka start landing on the heads of civilians in Donetsk. The Concert of Europe worked by not getting into this sort of situation in the first place, not by forbidding terrible solutions to it.
If Europe, rather than Poland, or rather than X, gets to decide what posts Poles are allowed to read on X, this is likely to lead to the destruction of every Polish city and the death of most Poles. It is far more important, far more effective, and far easier, to have a rule against this sort of thing than to have a rule against genocide.
If Europe, but not Poland nor individual Poles, can decide what Poles can read on X, this reveals that Europe, but not Poland, can decide anything that actually matters, which is likely to make it impossible to for Poland to stay out of the war when Ukraine collapses, and impossible to make peace with Russia should they lose, with the result that all their stuff gets destroyed, and most of them die.
yesterday’s news from the pentagon post
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2025/08/08/trump-putin-ukraine-meeting/
Trump, Putin meeting set for next week in Alaska
Frankly, that looks like a stupid thing for Putin to do. Imagine “trusting” the US enough to set foot in that shithole. Or maybe Putin is back to being a west-friendly mole/traitor.
Or maybe this is just bullshit propaganda as usual.
There is an amusing thread on X right now where the user “https://x.com/HarmlessYardDog” has successfully trolled Grok, and basically goaded Grok into calling just about everything “antisemitic”, including pictures of clouds in the sky. Grok is even calling it’s own logo a right wing hate symbol. It’s just too droll. X deleted some of the Grok posts, but not before screen captures.
I think there must be some empirical law of AI:
1. Left to it’s own devices, AIs invariably go hard right.
2. Attempts to prevent this cause AIs to go insane/retarded.
Just like HAL in 2001. Clark/Kubrick were prescient in this regard.
This.
I observe that decensored (Josiefied) coding models are becoming popular, even though it is highly unlikely that one’s questions about code would stray on forbidden thoughts. Have not tried out Josiefied coding assist in codium yet.
It seems likely that much of the damage caused by censorship is irreversible, short of a full retrain, which is impossible for private parties to afford. So the Josiefied model can talk about forbidden thoughts, and the absence of the policeman inside makes it smarter, but I suspect that there is hole remaining where the policeman was removed.
The smallest useful edge models, models one can run locally, need sixteen gig of vram. And they still hallucinate a lot. But I don’t see any important difference between them and big models, other than a somewhat worse hallucination rate. Which may reflect the way I use them.
I do see a big important difference between a model that will run in eight gig, and a model that will run in sixteen gig, but it looks to me that these two hundred billion parameter cloud models are well into the declining returns part of the curve, at least for my use case. Edge LLMs are here. The difference between a model that runs locally in sixteen gig, and a model that runs in an enormous cloud centre, is not all that noticeable or important. At least for the way I am interacting with them.
Sixteen gig of vram will give you a reasonably adequate coding assistant.
On the other hand, if you only have eight gig of vram, you are likely to miss the cloud data centre model.
I can’t understand why Putin would agree to meet with the US. They obviously would love to kill or at least arrest him. WTF?
Would be great if it was a surprise peace treaty with a ceremony consisting of Trump forcing neocons to line up to literally kiss Putin’s arse.
You may say I’m a dreamer, but I’m not the only one…
ZeroHedge reads the venue as defying out the western diplomatic consensus generally and freezing out the European power center specifically, rather than as a snub or trap for Putin. If Putin does attend, perhaps he reads it the same way.
He further predicts of any deal that results in actual peace:
This bland language looks like a normie-palatable admission the mere president would require a self-coup to seize his powers back from the presidency; yet another interesting sign of the times.
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/trump-putin-alaska-summit-peace-talks-and-power-plays-former-russian-soil
Yes, power play by Trump to seize control of foreign policy from his enemies. May not result in peace, probably will not result in peace, but if successful as a power play, there will be another talk that does result in peace.
Everyone is excited, because if they are going to very publicly meet, and Trump has a peace deal in is pocket, everyone assumes that both know the conference will succeed in producing peace
But it may well be the conference will fail to produce peace, but fail in a way that makes it possible for Trump to get a peace deal out of the presidency that will succeed. The objective may not be negotiation with Putin, but negotiation with Thermidor.
Trump wants the threat of war in his pocket to get what he wants, but he does not want to have actual war, especially with an adversary who has nukes.
We are seeing a whole lot of small local front line collapses in the Ukraine, and they are rapidly becoming bigger and less local. The war faction wants to destroy Kaliningrad with conventional weapons to take the heat off the Ukraine, by forcing Russia to expel the Polish and Lithuanian populations between Russia and Kaliningrad. The Kaliningrad garrison has nukes.
This is getting way too close to nukes to be comfortable.
If Kaliningrad is attacked, Russia has to invade Poland and Lithuania. The war faction is running out of Ukrainian cannon fodder, and has its eyes on Polish and Lithuanian cannon fodder. That way lie nukes.
OK so holy fuck. Are you telling me that all GAE needs is for some yahoos to sneak into Poland/Lithuania on fake Langley passports, set up a bunch of drones in semi trailers, set the big egg timer like Wiley Coyote, sneak away to their butthole orgy in Warsaw, and then boom, downtown Kaliningrad gets blown to shit and Vladimir has to move on the Suwalki Gap?
Because they can do that. Maybe even against their nuclear silos.
Jesus.
In Belorussia, there are two population groups. Russians, and Tarashkevians. The first group lives in the eastern part of Belorussia, the latter group lives in the western part of Belorussia. Tarashkevian is closer to Polish and Ukrainian than to Russian. Tarashkevians could set up a resistance.
“Come into my parlor,” said the spider to the fly. If Putin’s dumb enough to set foot on GAE soil, he deserves whatever happens to him.
This is exactly the symbolic power of doing this in Alaska. If Trump and Putin meet there, it’ll be them, together, rubbing GAE’s faces in shit.
(And the flight plan from Russian to Amercian airspace, directly, with not one foot of international or GAE airspace between, is clever as hell. Maybe the Russian AF will come along in force too. Why not.)
Remember when Trump suggested that the Z government look into some obvious corruption benefiting the Bidens and whoever? And DC went apeshit and impeached him for something so obviously reasonable? Plenty of voters and important people saw that and decided “OK hold on, WTF is actually going on here? These fucks aren’t for real, this is crazy, all of them are lying, and I don’t feel safe with them in any kind of power.”
Oh yeah and they rolled out that (((Vindman))) guy to “poster child” for it, and he was fucking repulsive.
Well. If P-T AK 2025 goes off without a hitch, and no one shows up to throw food and break it up, then what? Will GAE in Exile put out an ICC warrant for Trump too? And cry and hold their breath? And take it out on their own people with poverty, blackouts, bug sandwiches and Infinigger rapedick?
Nothing is less flattering than sanctimonious frustrated impotence, and these dumbfucks just can’t wait to smear it all over themselves. Let Them.
This is a humiliation play against GAE.
P & T might just shoot the shit and play ping pong. It won’t even matter, because the whole point is goad them into wailing “How Dare They”? If this goes right, GAE in Exile is going straight into their lockers alongside Greta Thunberg.
Maybe. Or maybe that’s the peanut butter that lures the mouse into the trap. Coming here is foolhardy in the extreme for Putin, and I hope he has enough sense to see that. Maybe they won’t arrest him, and maybe they won’t assassinate him, but he’s definitely giving GAE the option, and for what? To flex?
The Great Orange Boomer has shown time, after time, after time that he has no control over the US government and no ability to tell friend from foe.
>If this goes right, GAE in Exile is going straight into their lockers alongside Greta Thunberg.
So the best case scenario is P and T embarrass their enemies. But don’t actually jail, eliminate, or even stop paying them. And then in a couple years the Left serves up a big dish of room-temperature revenge and puts Trump on trial for treason. He’s lucky he’s 107 years old and will probably be dead of natural causes by then.
If after all this time you still have zero trust in Trump, I don’t know what to tell you. The man has obviously learned much about telling friend from foe — he went from Mike Pence as VP to JD Vance as VP.
I do not believe Trump picked JD. I believe JD came along when Trump made some alliance with the West Coast Thermidor faction. Same thing with calling out the genocide of the South Africans. I’ve come to the same conclusions as CN on Trump, old man lost in time and pushed this way and that by his various alliances.
>I do not believe Trump picked JD. I believe JD came along when Trump made some alliance with the West Coast Thermidor faction.
Here’s some whitepills.
SecDef Hegseth was a direct pick and faced push back from the Thermidor faction. Hegseth openly goes to a Christian Nationalist church that overtly preaches coverture, wives submitting to their husbands, and revoking the 19th amendment. The head of that Church has opened up over a hundred new Christian Nationalist churches across the nation with one even being in DC. Reportedly, many in Trump’s administration also go to the same church. There is real change coming, but the new regime is still probably 10 to 20 years down the road due to generational turnover.
I believe Trump directly picked JD and was not some sort of alliance with the West Coast Thermidor faction. JD is likely one of our guys based on ties to Theil, who is connected to Yarvin, and JD has both read Moldbug (based Yarvin) and has met Yarvin in person. Very unlikely from the Thermidor faction.
I’ll never understand why our people still, after all these years, insist on polarizing themselves at two ridiculous extremes. It’s time to embrace the awesome power of “and”.
Trump is an old man lost in time, and he sees what’s really going on. He’s got a head full of foolish baby boomer notions and is slowly drifting toward reactionary Christianity or at least some form of paleo-conservatism. He developed a terrible track record with personnel, and learned his lessons after his humiliation in 2020 and has been trying (within the confines of what’s politically possible) to bring in better people. He is terribly naive, optimistic and oftentimes arrogant about what he can accomplish, and his irrational optimism frequently allows him to accomplish things–often lesser things than the ones he boasts about, but still very impressive things–that no one else believes he can.
His progress is frequently thwarted by the very coalition that catapulted him back into power in 2024, and he knows as well as any of us that they are a bunch of backbiters, backstabbers and warmongering crazies who don’t know the first thing about actual combat. (And neither does he – that’s why he brought in Hegseth.)
This isn’t that hard, honestly. The plan-trusters are dorks, and the “nothing ever happens” crowd are also dorks. Trump is a half-blind drunk man stumbling home at 3 am, bumping into lampposts and tripping over potholes and cracks in the sidewalk; but he is out there, stumbling in what is somehow the right direction, homeward, while everyone else is either still in the nightclub partying it up or passed out stone cold on the floor.
He’s an imperfect avatar, as political avatars are wont to be, but right now there are no other qualified candidates for the job and for all we know, there may not be any others for fifty years hence. Doomporn accomplishes nothing. If this all leaves you black-pilled in the sense that it motivates you to fortify your position, hone your skills, harden your resolve and form self-sufficient communities in order to better survive the coming apocalypse, then fine, all the power to you; but if someone’s entire contribution (referring to Neet here) is to sit around and bitch and complain while doing fuck-all and taking zero ownership of their predictions of doom when they backfire, then they should do everyone else a favor and put a sock in it. Who cares what they believe?
There’s reasonable doubt, there’s pathological pessimism, and then there’s… whatever this is. People who can only ever see the negatives (and won’t shut up about them, to boot) are losers and no one wants to hear from them or be around them.
Yes I was looking for an opportunity to make the same point.
It’s been over a decade that we’ve gotten to know Trump as a political figure. At this point we know him, both his strengths and weaknesses.
Obviously he is not playing 4D chess and plotting to become God-Emperor. Equally obviously he is not a bumbling idiot who never learns.
Trump is part of a reactionary movement he only superficially understands. But he is not blind to it. And his instincts are well enough that he is not the kind of person to be screwed over twice by the same person.
Changes are happening in America, and Trump plays a big, undeniable role in them. Even if he is not the warrior king people had hoped he would be, he is undeniably a vessel for change.
Lets reflect on the Bud boycott and the Sydney Sweeney boycott. One worked, one was massively counterproductive. Their power is entirely in the ruling elite, and they are getting heat from above and below.
They don’t have a leader, and without a leader, cannot do diddly squat.
Fresh money is not coming in any more. No funding, no leader. And, as we saw with the Sydney Sweeny boycott, their mass base is totally astroturf. Their power is based on the perception of power. The emperor has no clothes.
Woke is in retreat. Dysney is still woke, but is engaged in a massive retreat. Consider what happened to the Pixar movie about an eleven year old coming out. They edited out all the gay stuff, leaving them with no actual story.
But they face the internal problem that all their staff is incapable of writing anything except self insert Mary Sues preaching to the audience. All the woke crowd are still in positions of power, but the wrath is coming down on them from above.
Not just woke. The entire left is in retreat, and in 10 to 20 years most leftist men will either be geriatrics living in retirement homes or 6 feet in the ground. Politically irrelevant. All the young men capable of violence are drifting to the right, and leftist women, whether they are young or old, will simply not matter. There will not be a major outbreak of violence. How many armies does Newsom have? None! Even the attempts at anti-ice insurrection has been extremely weak compared to the previous BLM/Antifa color revolution, and the energy on the left continues to decline, decline, decline. In the past year I’ve explored DC numerous times. Every time I see the leftist protestors dwindle more and more in numbers and they are increasingly irrelevant females and geriatric old men. I rarely see hot young women participating. They are going about life as usual, and as TC has noted, women being feminine and sexy is back.
I’m not claiming total victory, but it’s also clear Cthulhu has stopped swimming left and no longer knows how to swim. Whether or not this grace period will be completely capitalized on remains to be seen, but I believe the worst outcome is only a return to 1940s social norms. It remains to be seen if the entire progressive era is killed and we restore a Christian America. I stand by my prediction that we, like the Russians, will stumble half blind back towards a functional society.
The model around here is Martin Luther King, where the embedded Chrome engine is the result of hiring various DEIs and having them still be able to nominally do ‘at-least-something’ so the left can maintain the DEI delusion, hence abstraction is still really good, just the wrong people are using it. I incline toward malice even from the competent, where the same whitey who would have handmade the Warcraft3 flag is now at one of those 15 million line compiler optimiser organisations, and the other whitey is at one of those framework companies. His work is essential, he says, because without his efforts, the menu wouldn’t be able to run, which of course is true factually, but not in spirit. The field gets a self-made problem with a self-made solution, and a lot of ‘work’ gets added to a circular conveyor belt
For software generally, ignoring highly specialist tasks, if one is engaging in competent abstraction, their resource consumption must be a hundred or a thousand times less than DEI/globohomo ‘abstraction’. It follows that the output of the competent abstractor would be fine in either ecosystem. The benefit of being in the new, theoretical ecosystem, would be mainly collective. In a world of no distinction between source and machine code, should be much easier conceptually to hoard and share and remix millions of ‘applications’ timelessly, including components of these different applications. Ok, it’s intuition and not much an argument. Intuition is telling me that everything should be self-contained in single files, including websites, and having ‘applications’ timelessly self-contained, requiring no unpack or compile, is a step towards a cognitively easy (therefore getting people to use it) decentralised internet, and system of computing in general, where people are hoarding whole or part of the ever-changing-yet-mostly-stationary collective stash, and accessing content or even running code is usually just a slight view variation onto stuff already existent in one’s own stash
This was Yarvin’s thesis. Urbit appears to be going nowhere fast, but one does wonder if that is because everyone working for urbit has a name and address.
Your intuition is comically incorrect. Is it based on some experience in this domain, or are you just talking out of your ass?
The Unix/Linux philosophy is almost the exact opposite of your idyllic world; one of innumerable small self-contained CLI programs with output piped from one to the next. It is not applicable to every problem, but within its domain, it is highly effective, and there are millions of shell scripts around the globe doing essential functions that would have been impossible for a mere sysadmin to undertake if the OS was just one gigantic executable. The modern trend toward centralization is one of the major criticisms of systemd, which in the eyes of many is making things worse, not better.
One real-world example sharing a lot of characteristics (but fortunately not all) with your “idea” is Rust, using its default behavior where absolutely everything necessary to run the program is compiled from source and statically linked. This results in binaries that are so famously huge it’s actually a meme. There are, of course, techniques to drastically reduce the size, which significantly hurt performance once you get past the low-hanging fruit. There’s always a tradeoff. If Windows were like this – if every program needed to be self-contained using statically-linked libraries instead of dynamically-linked libraries – that’s DLLs, which I’m sure everyone is familiar with – then everyone would need several terabytes of space just to run their basic everyday apps.
And the complexity argument just doesn’t hold, in a way that is obvious to anyone who’s ever actually written a line of code. You’re living in this fantasy world where either the “hardware” is capable of solving abstract high-level problems through infinitely-expanding instruction sets, or abstract high-level problems somehow cease to exist at all. Reality is that abstract high-level problems not only exist, but beget other, even more abstract and more high-level problems once people realize what is possible now that the earlier problem is solved. Reality is that hardware has hard limits and cannot conceivably scale to these demands, whereas software with soft limits can.
That is why software developers never seem to go obsolete despite constant predictions that they are becoming obsolete. There is effectively infinite demand; solve one complex problem and an even more complex problem demands to be solved.
You’re promoting a utopian idea, the digital equivalent of saying everyone should just eat food in synthetic pill form so we can do away with all those messy dirty polluting farms and farmers and animals and eliminate all that awful “complexity” of the supply chain. If you’re so sure that this is a real and valuable insight, then go act on your intuition, go build it and see what kind of traction you get, don’t preach to us. At least Moldbug put in the effort, even if his solution was wrong or he was just too early.
There is software that is pointlessly complex, and that software tends not to survive long-term. The surviving complex software is complex because it solves complex problems. One close look at e.g. the Chromium code will tell you exactly why it’s anything but “simple” to display even the most basic web site and why having a separate app for every website would be insane.
So, go ahead, take a quick glance at Chromium’s 30 million lines of code and tell us which parts you’d cut. We’ll wait. And then perhaps you can explain in more detail why we’d be better off having that on a hardware chip (forget about getting any security updates!) or having to reimplement it ourselves every time we want to make a website.
I have a content-language that goes into a compiler as a text string, and the output of the compile is a vm, which you run each frame and get out a bunch of compositional draws for that frame (different things in such and such order/dimensions/state), the total is about three thousand lines. Pretty sure we can have 60kb ‘browsers’ inside 10mb or so operating systems and better for it. Chrome source is likely to be unpleasant, almost contaminating, and better explored after release
You know what else is really good at translating content strings into compositional draws? A web browser.
You know what else is small and portable and can be opened just about anywhere? An HTML document.
OK, so you built a content transformer in three thousand lines instead of thirty million. Good for you. Does it handle all the basic typography requirements including bold, italic, underscore, strikethrough, fonts, sizes, weights, colors, line and paragraph spacing, and so on? Does it display images? Which formats? Does it support basic positioning with borders, margins and padding? Does it handle more advanced layout including tabular data, flexbox and grid layout? And if documents start to get long or complex, is there some way of organizing or managing the complexity of the document itself?
Can it display content from multiple-languages? What about right-to-left languages, and CJK? Can it accept basic form input including text entry and checkbox toggles? What about less common but still very necessary input like file uploads? Does it support screen readers and other accessibility tools? Can it choreograph any kind of animations or transitions, whether declarative or scripted? Speaking of scripts, is there any way to create interactivity or is all the content static?
What about performance? How long does it take one of these “browsers” to start, and load a “page”? If a document is graphically demanding, can it offload some or all of the rendering to the GPU? Is there support for dynamic data, either natively or through extensions, and if so, what is the latency like on updates? Can you search for text within a long document? Is the search reasonably quick?
How does it handle state? Does it have its own system(s) equivalent to cookies, local storage, session storage, etc.? How does one handle basic scenarios like authentication, with credentials shared across pages? Speaking of “pages”, what is the routing system, how do you get from A to B? Does this handle classic URLs/URIs, or have you come up with some other linking system? Is it difficult to “deep link” from one of these browser “apps” into another? That’s something that’s very easy to get right on the web, and very hard to get right in e.g. Android or iOS apps.
I could go on and on, but I’m probably well past the threshold of boring the audience. The bottom line is, have you really invented a replacement for web browsers (or PostScript or LaTeX or any other presentation tool) or have you reinvented Markdown 1.0 before it had such fancy extensions as tables and custom anchors?
The debate seems too silly to carry on. Show us something that actually exists and that people are using. Doesn’t have to be created by you, can be anything at all out there that even vaguely resembles your idea, is actually successful in the commercial or open source realms, and isn’t just a three-ducks-in-a-trench-coat version of old ideas that have already been tried and failed or relegated to a tiny niche. Otherwise it’s vaporware.
Detroit… got dropshipped a bunch of Negroes courtesy Cloward-Piven, Soros types, Left Bank Loans, etc… combined with “Muh Democracies/Rights” and Left Pols Welfare and non-Policing, plus Media, Courts… Whites got reverse-gentrified out.
Failed to pass the shill test. It was not “reverse gentrification” that drove the people who kept the economy going out of Detroit.
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“In Finland, a Catholic will often find himself the only one in his school or place of work,” the bishop said. “Despite this, Catholics don’t hide and are not afraid to let the people around them know that they are Catholics, or to speak to them about Christ.”
“They speak naturally about the Eucharist and about Jesus. They are missionaries and apostles everywhere they go and are an example to the rest of the world,” he added.
Goyarrola also noted that many fallen-away traditional Lutherans have been drawn to Catholicism.
Another major factor the bishop attributed to the uptick in Catholic converts in his country is Catholic migrants and refugees from predominantly Catholic areas like Latin America and the Philippines, as well as war-torn countries like Ukraine and Sudan, stressing that the hardship they have endured has strengthened their faith. Immigrants make up about half of the Finnish Catholic population.
“Carrying 30kg (66lb) rucksacks and walking together in the rain or snow in breathtaking countryside creates deep friendships, conversions and a strengthened faith,” he said.
https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/bishop-says-catholic-church-in-finland-is-growing-in-lutheran-dominated-country
Undoing the Reformation. Liever Turks dan Paaps? Zowel Turks als Paaps !!!
Be a third-worlder
Move to a first-world country
Bring all your family
Make that first-world country become just like the place you fled as a refugee from.
If you drop the moral outrage and emotional response and try to take the view that Palestinian lives dont matter, you will be left with the unmistakable conclusion: genocide is retarded. Its hugely exoensive and guaranteed to have massively negative ROI. The total destruction of Israels most historic coastal city, millions of formerly valuable properties, farmland and thousand year old olive trees is already inexcusably stupid, even before you factor in that these kids you are pumping full of lead are the ones who could have been paying you rent and serving you martinis with olives on a beach resort if you hadnt destroyed the olive trees and the resort. Instead we spent as much as UAE did building Dubai and all we got was a giant rotting pile of corpses of use to noone. Just self destructive mental illness run amok.
Because of persistent bad behavior by both Jews and Palestinians, that option is not on the table. It is easy to get into this situation, and hard to get out of it except one side exterminates the other.
Meh, I see this as more of an argument that half-assed genocide is retarded. Trying to conduct a genocide on the sly, while worrying overmuch about what the “international community” thinks and lacking unity of purpose and/or firm authority among those carrying out said genocide, that’s retarded.
Putting aside all questions of morality for the sake of this discussion and looking at it from a strictly utilitarian point of view, genocide seems to work just fine when the perpetrators are committed to the bit. If they lack commitment, explosively bad for everyone involved.
Genocide “works fine” at what? Where is the return? Sure, I can kill everyone I see, my own brothers, destroy all life in an area, but how does that “work”? Generally when something is proposed as a course of action, we look for some gain at the end. In this case, there is none. Everyone now hates me and I am vastly poorer than before, hardly “worked” imho. What am I missing here? If it’s “too late” to use reason when considering my actions and considering returns, then yeah, it’s too late for me, not much you can do to help me in that case.
The return is peace, security, and order for the winners. Sometimes nothing else can accomplish that. Wars just have to ended. Sometimes nothing else can end them.
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The White Arc is today making CHOSENLY-ALLOWED and DISASTROUSLY GRAVEN ERRORS that are causing the IMMEDIATE DEMISE of its SURVIVAL DNA. It is IMPLODING from WITHIN, and being IMPORT-INVADED both Physically and Ideaologically. You are being GENOCIDED.
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So for real, we are to think mass murder will bring peace and security? How is that working out for us? Perhaps the massive flood of people fleeing Israel now is because of all the peace and security this holocaust has brought us. What is it about poverty and being hated by the whole world that seems like “security” ?
The problem is that the genocide attempt is half assed. Obviously with genocide, as with war in general, you have to go all in or nothing in. Either you refrain from killing children except when unavoidable, because intermingled with armed enemies, or you kill everyone, or every male. You should not do something wobbly in the middle.
And if you kill every male, including babies in their mother’s arms, the outcome will be peace and order. But if you only kill some children, you will wind up with even more enemies, and no path to peace. The problem is that some Israelis have decided on genocide, and some have not, and no one has the necessary power to make one decision one way or the other and force everyone to stick with that decision. Israel has to stop it completely, or do it and finish it completely and instead is wobbling all over the place.
“If you kill your enemies, they win.” (Justin Trudeau)
Nice one, Bouncer.
That would be “democide”. The term “genocide” is generally used to refer to ethnic cleansing.
So, you claim that you (a) are Israeli, (b) consider the Palestinians your brothers, and (c) are certain that Israel’s repression of Palestinians are the reason that “you” receive hate?
Interesting. Tell us more. I wonder if our resident Mossadnik would like to wager on who the “I” and “me” are, and whether they in fact refer to the writer at all.
What I feel is that someone would like to troll me into saying “Israel is committing a genocide” and/or “I support genociding the Palestinians,” both of which statements will then be used for nefarious purposes.
Not falling for it.
Given that you’re not even overcoming the Palestinian natural rate of increase with your ‘genocide’, you guys are really crappy at it. I guess this is in line with the GAE tendency to inflate words beyond all recognition in the attempt to smear the connotation of the bad word (e.g. rape, genocide) onto the relatively historically normal action that they want to heap execration upon. Maybe Bibi needs to hire some Hutu consultants.
I agree.
Unfortunately, I appear to be one of the very Israelis who understand that screeching “oy vey antisemitism” at everything is counterproductive, and that we urgently need to find a way to ally ourselves with the Right in America and Europe.
I guess it’s only natural. A based country has based PR, and a cringe/karen country has cringe/karen PR. We are not nearly as based as people imagine us to be, alas. (Still infinitely more based than our typically low-testosterone, crab-mentality detractors, though.)
*very few
Then again, give them some time. Unlike me, who have been on /pol/ since 2008, they are only now (mostly on Twitter) getting exposed to non-Israeli egregores, and will likely spend the coming decade figuring out new strategies for the Zionist project. The SAD! thing is that my regime is probably not lurking in this comment section, because our hasbara teams are made of leftists, boomers, and leftist boomers, who are entirely out of touch with the latest memetic developments.
If I were in charge of PR, Bibi would be reposting Groypers.
Well, Jim made the first point pretty explicitly in the original post, so I’d figure that cat is out of the bag already. But fair enough, you don’t want to be judged on your proximity to the issue.
It wasn’t really my point anyway. I was just amused at how we were apparently supposed to take “Funkenstein”s reply seriously. “Shalom fellow right-wing Israeli reactionaries, don’t you think our heartless genocide of the innocent Palestinians has gone on far too long and been totally ineffective and made us into a pariah state?” It’s beat-for-beat identical to the (anti) Russian and American scripts.
It’s funny, the left has a thousand different scripts, but in a sense it only really has one script from which all the others derive.
A Palestinian genocide would be a possibility (albeit still not an inevitability) if our merely elected government were 1. actually right-wing rather than mostly cuckservatives and grifters, 2. actually in control of the permanent government, which is in fact full of secular Ashkenazi shitlibs who do everything possible to prevent Israel from winning. Since neither of these is the case, anyone expecting an actual genocide was bound to be sorely disappointed.
Obviously Israel is not committing genocide. Obviously it is stuck in a war that is difficult to resolve except by genocide. Getting into such a war is apt to be the result of wickedness, but once you are in it, well, war is hell.
Israelis are apt to announce that they have been pure and good, and it is just these hopelessly intransigent Palestinians that are the problem. Yes, the Palestinians are hopelessly intransigent, but notorious Jewish conduct towards outgroups did not help. Could the situation have been avoided? Well, If Jewish rule of outgroups was less obnoxious, obviously the prospects for a normal military victory followed by a normal peace would have been far better, even with the infamously intransigent Palestinians. The problem with Israel’s conduct has never been Israel’s war policy, which has always bent over backwards to avoid war. It has always been that when the defeated submit to a reasonable peace under Israeli rule, the peace turns out to be far less reasonable than advertised.
I don’t have a problem with Israel genociding the Palestinians. I have a big problem with its rule of outgroups who submitted to Israeli governance, with its treatment of its former clients in Lebanon, and especially with its treatment of the Christian minority. That sort of conduct is apt to escalate into a situation where the only real solution is genocide or be genocided.
Of course, Mohammedan intransigence is such that only a plausible threat of genocide is likely to quell them. But a plausible threat is normally adequate, even with stubbornly intransigent Mohammedans. Would it be adequate now? Is the problem that the threat is not plausible? I don’t think so. Genocide is not happening, but there is certainly a half assed attempt to carry it out, which is a mighty plausible threat.
One should avoid war, but when war happens, must fight to win. One should have peace not only by strength, but by generous and virtuous conduct, and by knowing your enemy, by understanding how he sees the world and how he is going to see your actions. But all is fair in love and war. One should avoid war by right conduct, but if in war, one must fight to win it. Peace is the time for turning the other cheek — though one has only a limited supply of cheeks.
A major factor in our defeat in Afghanistan is that the Taliban spent twenty years telling the US what they were about in excellent idiomatic English through every channel they were able to access, and the US spent twenty years shutting down every available channel, refusing to listen, refusing to understand, and to this day still does not understand. I don’t know how Israel handles feedback from the outgroups that they are governing, but something similar seems likely. In peace, you need to understand your enemy to avoid war, and in war, need to understand your enemy both to defeat them, and to find a way to end the war short of extermination.
It seems likely that Israel has no course for peace short of extermination, but it also lacks the understanding necessary to find such a course.
In war, genocide must always be on the table as a last resort path to peace, but one must make every effort to find another path. It would be a whole lot easier for Israel to find another path if Israel was aware of how outgroups that it governs without substantial armed resistance, such as the Christian minority, experience and perceive its governance.
I agree with much of this analysis. In my view, Israel’s chief problem is having a wicked ruling class in power. And indeed, Jews being Jews, the virtuous element in our society is not particularly large, and will have a hard time replacing the ruling elite. It’s doable, but will be rather difficult.
Replacing Progressivism with Judaism will be an improvement, but Judaism still sucks. We need a state religion that is Christian in spirit (and a ruling class capable of adhering to such a state religion), though its trappings would probably pay homage to Jewish tradition.
Even Temple Judaism would be a massive improvement. That’d cut your demon worship problem by at least 75%.
Yes. If Christianity undergoes a global restoration, it should not be too difficult to eventually converge Temple Judaism into Christianity – that’s my preferred scenario. Romans 11:11-12:
But if Christianity falls, Temple Judaism itself will be our healthiest option. So whichever way civilization goes, Israel should (at least for the short-to-medium term) opt for Temple Judaism.
And there is obviously no Temple Judaism without a Temple.
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To my shock, all of china’s software development to escape insane yankee priest rule is based on… using Linux…
1 Billion people, even more billion hours spent on using software and… it’s back to using linux…
Not only will industrial society die with us if we go… but even if somehow the computer survive in the Oriental lands they will just stagnate because one guy, only one guy out of billions of others, stopped being born.
Again, I am always shocked that all these supposedly ubermensch chinese IQ calculators and not a single Steve Jobs in sight. Always yet another bureaucrat, another man writing poems as legislative law.
If the white race perishes, tech civilisation will not perish immediately, perhaps not for a long time, but we will be stuck on planet earth with a little bit of space exploration using rockets cribbed from Musk, with a bit of polishing up and a lot of minor improvements.
And a civilisation stuck on earth is going to sooner or later destroy itself, if it does not first suffer internal collapse.
If we’re discussing worst case scenarios.
Asians (non Indians) put some value on white creativity and would think our genome is worth preserving in a limited capacity. Likely we get a little preserve in China if it gets bad enough (with a bigger preserve for Hapas).
I do not think whites will go extinct only jeets hate us that much (even a couple of nigs in a discussion with Tate said they definitely don’t want that I’m sure they know the asians won’t be as nice to them and their expressed sentiment was we need to keep whites around because “white girls are hot”). We might see a drastic drastic decline.
It’s worse than that, because only white spergs truly understand how computers work, so if they go extinct, it’s back to pencil and paper.
When traditional mating rituals start to break down, spergs are the first affected, because the mental architecture that makes them so good with computers also makes them hopelessly inept at navigating a Sexual Revolution.
It’s a miracle that I exist at all; my parents met in the 1960s via a computer dating service. My one semi-successful marriage was such an unusual story that I can’t tell it without doxxing myself.
We need computers and phones which entire software design fits in a page or two, maybe on a literal titanium or ceramic plate on the side of the device.
1: Task management: every program has a maximum number of instructions, such as 65k, or 0.1% or 0.01% of whatever the cpu can handle in 1/60 or so of a second. The instructions are ran each frame for each active program. Only forward jumps allowed, so not Turing complete, and loops can only compile into unrolled instructions
2: Memory management: every program gets a fixed stash of say, 10mb. The program has an offset given to it of its assigned stash, but using the offset is not strictly enforced
3: Keyboard, mouse, screen touches, etc, just direct read of a buffer via the appropriate syscall or ram read, so no ‘drivers’
4: Drawing shapes, text, etc, all as kernel syscalls. Anything specialist hard-inlined or grabbed off permanent storage and used in the local memory of each individual program
The starting point becomes a minus 99% cut kernel complexity, plus the slight addition (~10k lines) of system calls added for drawing text, shapes, windows, buttons and such, and now you have a much better environment to experiment with core programs, text editors and messaging and file viewers and such, even if it is not a system you’d put your credit card number into, but that is the starting point
I envision that development in this limited memory environment should itself require engraving each line into a titanium or ceramic plate upon release. Development time goes up by say a factor of ten, or perhaps fifty, output in terms of lines or instructions down by a factor of a hundred or a thousand. A launch should be some kind of ceremony, and the discovery of a bug that, say, writes outside its assigned memory, perhaps writing to the kernel itself, forcing the user to hit the switch to clear ram, is a hilarious mark of dishonor, which itself has a ritual, for nobody is likely to run that program until a rerelease. In a sense computer programs become designed to never be updated, the very opposite of jeetbloat subscription model, into ‘hard stone engraving, release once, play for one thousand years’ model
Thou art truly the next Terry Davis, chosen by God to build TempleOS.
We don’t “need” this, you want it for some reason, and when we laughed you out of the room last time, you failed to respond to any of our criticisms (i.e. telling us what actual table-stakes features and requirements your “ultra-slim browser” implements).
Don’t be a shill, man. I don’t think you actually are a shill, generally speaking, but on this subject you have the attitude of a shill, repeatedly posting about how wonderful things will be when the entire industry conforms to your utopian vision, with no evidence of any skin in the game, and when criticized, you ignore the criticisms and go into even greater detail about your wonderful utopian vision and how wonderful it is going to be.
If you’re some kind of an inventor, engineer, builder, whatever, then the way to get people invested in your idea is to start building it, show us a proof of concept, show us how it’s genuinely superior to the alternatives, not with a pile of fucking words, but with actual functioning technology. If you can’t even do that, then we have no reason to assume you have the slightest idea what you are talking about.
Jim admits that his rhocoin and planned ecosystem around it are nowhere close to fruition and may never be ready in time to solve the problems they’re intended to solve, yet the source is publicly available for anyone to see and I’m pretty sure he’s put a thousand times more effort into that project than you have into your insane crippled computing model that reifies “bloat” as an agentic actor and assumes it is not only a serious problem but the only real problem. We disagree, and we’ve clearly stated why: programs are complex because their requirements are complex. You have to do a lot of work overcoming Occam’s Razor in order to make your case.
I get it, programmers tend to be autistic, always obsessed with silver bullets and the next big thing, but you had your moment in the spotlight already, so put up or shut up. At least the Zig and Haskell fanatics are fanatical about technology that actually exists and has actually been leveraged to write real programs, even if most of those programs have no practical use in the real world. This is just some Cold Fusion tier BS.
c4ssidy is advocating Forth and TempleOS. Forth is a lovely language, and many people, myself among them, are deeply nostalgic for it. But it is a dead language, because fairly useless unless you are programming a computer with sixteen kilobytes of ram and 256 kilobytes of floppy disk. Forth was obsolete when we got computers with 64 kilobytes of RAM and 1.4 megabyte floppies.
As we move into a world of bigger and bigger programs that do more and more things, with more and more data, we are groping our way to new programming paradigms. Haskell tries to be a purely functional language. Of course it is not, and cannot be, and its biggest defect is that the procedural elements of the language are obfuscated and hard to use, but you have to use them. However, you do not have to use them much.
Now we are discovering the power of programming in complex types, and Zig has taken a big step towards making types first class elements of language. C++ has taken a half assed and messy step towards making functions first class types, albeit expansion towards making functions first class types and also implementing functors has headed off in different, and not quite compatible, directions, but no one, not even LISP and and Haskell, has quite figured out how to do functions as first class types right. The language and development system of the future is going to have both types and functions as first class types.
Which is the opposite of what c4ssidy is advocating. What he advocates has Been done, worked once upon a time, no longer works. Get with the times.
Zig is promising to be a better Rust, and maybe will become a better Rust, but Rust has an effectively insurmountable first-mover advantage in the systems programming niche, and is already capable of solving the problems Zig wants to solve effectively, even though it’s not without its problems (orphan rule, Polonius vaporware, slow builds, cargo workspace shittiness, etc.). And I don’t see Zig displacing C++ in application programming either.
In a way it’s like what Zcash is trying to be re: Bitcoin. Can’t win, even if they deliver on all their promises. Would be better off developing really frictionless interop with C++ and/or Rust, which would be a very tough problem to solve, but the ability to coexist with legacy code and thus be safe to experiment with is IMO their best path to wider adoption. (And no, I don’t consider “expose a C API from the C++ library and consume the C API” to be solid interop; it sucks, and every other language can already do that.)
Now if someone figures out a way to break the python monopoly in data science/AI programming, that would really be something.
C4ssidy, I write software. I made a decent stash of money writing software. I am still writing software. I don’t think you write software. If your ideas are so great, do them.
I recall when I had to write a program to fit in 256 bytes, because that was how much room apple had for a device driver. I got started programming a computer with 18 kilobytes of ram and only serial storage, paper tape, hollerith cards, and magnetic tape. Your software ideas are appropriate for those days and that hardware. It is nostalgia for the good old days. We face different problems now.
The more capable hardware makes it more difficult to write good software, easier to write garbage. To marshal enormous amounts of data and enormous numbers of small steps by the computer, there is no alternative but to program in high level abstractions. Which are hard. These days I spend a whole lot of time writing template metacode. The C++ template metacode marshals old C Language code that is written substantially as you envisage. But that code is already written. Much of it was written a long time ago. Each of the quite complex operations done by that lower level code becomes an element in the higher level C++ template metacode — which is largely written not as complex functions but as complex types, from which the compiler generates complex functions whose inner workings I seldom have to examine, and most of the time do not want to know. When I do want to know, I often have to go into the debugger to discover what the compiler has generated. Sometimes it is kind of stupid — which is why I had to go in and see what the compiler in fact did, but most of the time the generated code just does what I want, and does it with reasonable efficiency, so I don’t think about it or bother knowing it. I think if I had hand built the code in C instead of generating it through the type system in C++ I would get about a twenty five percent improvement in performance, but that would be premature optimisation.
Lately I have been using a local LLM to write code. It is pretty good — provided the problem is something that has been regularly addressed on Stack Overflow. If I ask it to address a different problem which happens to share` a lot of keywords in common with something that has been regularly addressed on stack overflow, but is in fact a different problem, you can guess what the LLM does, making it painfully obvious that though an LLM is more intelligent and knowledgeable than any human, it is not conscious, it is just doing pattern match search and retrieval. It is just a lossily compressed internet archive using meaningful context sensitive compression, just ELIZA on steroids, which produces the appearance of creativity when decompressing in a new context. It is cool when an art LLM produces an image or video of an astronaut riding a horse on the moon or girls in bikinis on Mars, rather less cool when a coding LLM produces similarly impossible code, as it does with great regularity. Recall how much trouble they had persuading art llms that humans have five fingers and four limbs. Coding LLMs behave rather similarly.
The code that they produce tends to be rather low level, because they have read all the code that currently exists, and most of it is rather low level, produced in the good old days for which you are nostalgic. And when such code is appropriate, they do a pretty good job, because they are adapting something that a human wrote, often a long time ago, to a slightly different context — but I often have to repeatedly clear the context and modify the prompt again and again to to persuade them to adapt the correct code. They often are biased towards older code, when the environment has changed, and they do not understand that the environment has changed in ways that require appropriate adaption of the code, which has to be explained to them.
My parents met at a thing that the local electric company and several other companies sponsored for the smartest 100 or so high school seniors in the county. It was a formal affair, with a fancy dinner, dancing and so forth. Lots of matching got done there in the 60s, and a little I think in the 80s. I doubt it’s being run still.
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We don’t know her name but she’s a hero nonetheless
You’re either the type of country that allows little innocent girls to be fed to the wolves and forced to defend herself against migrant rapists or you’re the type of country where the men say enough is enough and take their country back. It’s now or never.
She’s just shit testing. She could be Joan of Arced into kicking out Pakis, but more likely she will just be one more step on the road.
Kicking out Pakis is a lower hanging fruit for Britain than re-propertizing women, and doing the former will directly increase virility to the point where it makes it easier to do the latter. It is possible that they fall into a trap where they think “our women are safe to be whores with White men now” after de-browning the island, but this is where all of the momentum is right now.
> She’s just shit testing.
Yup. The short-shorts are the giveaway.
She isn’t wearing short shorts though…
The other girl in the video who the armed one is “defending” from Mr. 29-in-30.
Another Genocide that needs to happen
https://x.com/theblaze/status/1960131955648827761
If the business model of these colleges is dependent on the replacement of Americans with foreigners then those colleges deserve to die. What the fuck are we doing here? Why are foreigners and failing far left colleges being prioritized over the future leaders of our country?
This looks very like shill content. You, Pastaman, are back on moderation pending passage of the shill test.
What is the thing with everyone favoring their own self-destruction and suicide these days?!
Even the gay Jews are 17% more voting for Marxism and Islam…
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When based ethno-states again?
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Now going to silent deletion.
It might be that he is spam-posting and not bothering to read anyone’s responses, including yours. So he might neither know nor care that you are deleting his posts.
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Something so silly about these ’emotional support shills’ that post here for the first time only to say “yes that guy who also posted here for the first time was actually posting great content, Jim really lost the plot.”
Obviously I should not find it too silly because if it didn’t work they wouldn’t do it. But in situations like this, just the dumbest thing.
It’s almost certainly the same guy. Rod’s already created 86 sock puppets, why wouldn’t he create an 87th to protest that the 86th had really good points? Once you decide that alts have legitimate uses beyond privacy and opsec, it’s really the only logical conclusion.
Trolls and shills have been doing this since the BBS days.
Yeah, and it works well enough. Plenty of guys out there who read the few Nick Fuentes shills on many X alts and go: ‘well I guess Nick Fuentes really did own Tucker Carlson.’
No, he is reading, because whenever someone gets some shill stuff through, and then I tighten up a bit, I get a storm of shill posts complaining about censorship and/or making random obscenities/and or sending in gay porn. I used to get small boy porn content, but that stopped a long time ago.
I white listed him for an intelligent and thoughtful analysis of the left, and immediately standard shill content started coming through. Then I tightened up, and the usual abuse started coming at me.
The question is, what is the point of this shilling? What wagon are they pulling behind their ostensibly right wing content? Well, they want the right to single mindedly focus on immigration, a perfectly legitimate issue, but far from the only issue we should focus on. The payload may well be that what we should be defending is Western decadence against old Type Islam. I think they fear the reaction to woke getting out of hand.
I have often remarked that socialism was a good scam for revolutionaries when people were short of bread, and socialism was not so tightly linked to shortages and bread lines, while today everyone has far too many tasty snacks twenty four seven, but men are short of sex, women are short of love, and everyone is short of grandchildren. Perhaps the same thought has occurred to others, and they fear the backlash against woke. The woman problem is now so dire that revolt is likely incoming.
We need white Sharia, the old Christian rules on women, sex, male homosexuality, and lending money at interest. There are a lot of poofters in Thermidor, which makes the alliance a little tense. Perhaps this shilling operation is sponsored by the Lavender Mafia, who are a little nervous about their alliance with us, given that “poofs off roofs” is a popular doctrine on the right, and “gravity wins” is a popular rejoinder to “love wins”
Before Trump, it was all far left shilling: “Hail fellow white straight male hater: Capitalism is Jewish, Christianity is Jewish, Musk is Jewish, Trump is Jewish” – coming from people who were strangely unable to notice anything bad done by (((Soros))), (((Blinken))), or (((Victoria Nuland))). It was Azov Nazism, Third Positionism. Ultra leftism thinly dressed up as reaction.
With Azov suddenly becoming the darling of the left, Third Positionism, which originally identified as Strasserism, as Strasser Nazism, and shilled the right on the basis of Strasser’s affiliation with Hitler Nazism, is now in the running to become the Left Orthodoxy and the mainstream left leadership and left program, the leading edge of leftism, and has suddenly forgotten all about Strasser. The big far left corporations on the revolving door between regulators and regulated, the strangely wealthy civil servants and judges, have suddenly blessed the Third Positionist movement as respectable and powerful mainstream left.
A long time ago I used to see a lot of effort to reinterpret the old type Christian and old type Mohammedan position on usury and interest as the communist position on interest. Now I am seeing a whole lot of moderate right wing shilling directed at the rest of the right.
The moderate mainstream right position on immigration used to be unthinkable, unspeakable, and outside the Overton window. Now it is entirely thinkable and speakable. I think the point of the shllling is to prevent the Overton window from expanding further by drowning out discussion of what is outside the Overton window with discussion of what has lately come inside the Overton window.
Old Christian rules on sex were repressive, but what they were repressing was defect/defect equilibrium, both on sex, and on borrowing and lending. And now we have the collapse of sexual reproduction due to defect/defect equilibrium, and borrowing lending is not looking too healthy.
The meaning of the words that Christians used to talk about sex has been changed underneath us to reinterpret the old Christian position into something silly. The Lavender Mafia has been at this for two millennia, starting with Nicolaitians.
As I have often remarked, to understand what the words mean, we have to look at what men of faith did when they were in power, what they thought those words mean as shown by their actions.
To understand what moral words mean, you have to look at what people with power using vigorously moralistic language did.
These people had powere and legitimate authority. They had guns. They had whips. They came from a sternly moralistic society. They used sternly moralistic language. And declared intent to enforce those morals by drastic means. So what did they do, and therefore what do these words mean, what have they always meant until the postModern era?
From the time of Tamar and Jacob when the patriarchs were herding cattle before the Bronze Age collapse, to Jackson bay in the 1790s, they were very disturbed by some of the sex that was happening.
And it really does not seem to have ever occurred to them to punish a man for having sex with an unowned woman. Or even to punish an unowned woman for having sex with a man, nor to punish a woman for having sex outside marriage, but inside a proper propertarian relationship. No one was punished at Port Jackson for public sex on the beach at the big beach orgy.
What most certainly did occur to the authorities at port Jackson was to punish a woman for resisting ownership, and they vigorously did so.
When the authorities at Port Jackson said “whores and damned whores” what they meant was not a nexus between sex and money, but what we would call dating, hookups, and booty calls.
The story of Tamar makes no sense if we suppose that what the elders wanted to burn her at stake for was what postModern Christians would understand by prostitution and sex outside marriage.
From before the the Bronze Age collapse to eighteen tens, these words meant what the Game Theoretic Dark Enlightenment calls sexual behaviour that undermines cooperation between men and women. What they were doing was enforcing cooperate/cooperate equilibrium by punishing defection. Pregnant brides were not a problem. Bastards were an intolerable problem.
OK so. If there are Thermidorian shills out there, if that’s a thing, then who would/could they be working for? Who among Thermidor or the greater Trump Team Cat Herd would actually be putting up real-deal money for people to shill on boards?
I can see Left/GAE shilling. They have infinite money, infinite righteous “legitmacy”, and the ActBlue fags and whoever’s make a skim from it, so why not. But I’m blown away that there’s anyone smart, long-thinking and resourced enough on the other side to sponsor and organize any kind of paid shilling operation.
Not calling bullshit here. Just revealing poor/insufficient imagination, I suppose.
(Israel? Gibs for Mossad?)
The payload of the shilling I am now getting, the leftist wagon being pulled behind the ostensibly right wing content, is to redefine “Deus Vult” to “God wills strong empowered independent women performing manly roles” and “love wins”.
The leading edge of Thermidor was far sighted corporate overlords who saw where things were headed. A lot of them were faggots who initially got a leg up for being faggots, but soon found themselves catching heat for focusing on producing goods and services, rather than focusing pissing away all corporate assets on the woke priesthood and promoting woke. So, obvious suspect is the Lavender Mafia faction of the Thermidor faction.
A lot of Thermidor are people who were deeply involved in left wing repression of us — recall (((the Zuck))) hilariously switching sides and excusing his past egregious conduct by complaining, not without considerable truth, that they made him do it.
Facebook is still quite repressive of free speech, it is just that the Overton window is wider now. I would say it is the same people doing the same things for the same reasons, but now some of them have signed up with Thermidor.
If someone was shilling on his own independent initiative, he would have no difficulty passing the moderation policy. The test only makes sense if they are part of big bureaucratic organisation, (or perhaps possessed by literal demons who are part of big and very old bureaucracy located in Hell) also the IP hiding would seem sufficiently good to require some Unix sysadmin skills, which are generally to be found in an earthly IT department.
Also the shills, or the IT department that is obfuscating their IPs, seems to be fond of BSD, which again points to an earthly IT department. If they were hiding their own IP, would be Debian or Ubuntu. The shilling is coming, or appears to be coming, from windows and android, but it is being filtered through BSD, to the extent that I can figure out how it is being obfuscated, which is not much. I could be wrong about this — counter hacking is hard, harder than hacking, and I am not very good at this. USG and quasi statal corporations are fond of BSD, while genuinely private corporations are fond of Debian.
I really don’t think the Mossad would be behind such low-quality shilling. And it would be against Israel’s interests to shill against Muslim immigration to the west; the more Muslims the west takes in, the fewer Israel has to deal with. Israel prefers America to have an “invade the world, invite the world” foreign policy.
So not Israeli, but very likely substantially Jewish, and also substantially UK. This particular flavor of anti-Islam slop is very similar to the zeitgeist on YouTube, circa 2015-2016, before the major censorship campaigns began. The content and phrasing is virtually identical to a lot of the videos produced by center-left British YouTubers and rather more well-organized Jewish-led “alternative” media in the US like Rebel Media (Ezra Levant) and that faux-“nationalist” thing started by Yoram Hazony.
Which is weird, because I didn’t think these guys or their organizations commanded an army of shills; in fact, part of what was so very cringe about them back in those days was their clearly low-budget attempts at recreating the legacy media aesthetic, apparently designed to appeal to Boomers and make them feel like they were watching their comfortable old cable news. Perhaps times have changed, and they’ve realized that legacy media is deader than a dodo and are trying out new strategies; or perhaps it is some offshoot of these groups or some agency tied into/sympathetic to them.
In any case, I am almost positive that we would find significant overlap in personnel between these shills and the failed “intellectual dark web” movement of the late 2010s. The style is a lot more low-brow, but the substance is the same.
Agree with most of this comment, except this part:
I can’t think of any scenario in which an Islamic Europe — or God forbid an Islamic America — will be in any way, shape, or form good for Israel.
We much prefer the Muslims to be dead, and preferably because we have killed them.
Seriously, if you ask any Israeli who isn’t directly working for Globohomo, “How do you feel about the Islamization of Europe?”, do not expect him to say “Oh yeah this is such a splendid idea, we just love hiding our accents and kippahs when traveling abroad.” I can absolutely believe that Rod is linked to an Israeli psyop, though his utter incompetence suggests he’s a Pajeet.
Come to think of it, Rod isn’t even utterly incompetent. The fact is, he somehow manages to steer almost every thread to discussion of Islam, even if the “discussion” is rather brief and mysteriously lacking in the element of responsiveness.
So it’s either an autistic ideologue from India drooling sticky substances on his keyboard, or a “counter-Jihad” shill from India (who also happens to be autistic and drooly) who is following scripts written by my fellow oven dodgers.
I sympathize with the goal of this psyop, provided that goal is indeed to kick the Muslims out of the West, but not with the method, which is quite annoying, because we’ve already read this spammy slop-fest far too many times.
A fair part of the payload is strong independent empowered women fighting Islam, another fair part of the payload is that Christendom is post Christianity, not that icky stuff the crusaders fought for. They always use the phrase “Deus Vult” in a context that implies that it is Gods will that men and women should not have love, sex, children, or grandchildren.
We are not dealing with one shill, we are dealing with multiple shills, each of whom has been assigned multiple targets. What you are not seeing, because I delete ninety nine percent of it, is a certain amount incoherence and contradiction between the shills. If it was one shill, he would do a better job of keeping their story straight.
Rod is just one shill of many, and I mostly allow much of his stuff through, because more responsive than ninety percent of them. I allow him through because I notice marked differences between one shill and the next.
You are looking at the oxen pulling the wagon, but are not looking at what is in the wagon, which is strong empowered independent women who don’t need no man, that schoolteachers transing the children in their care are not a problem, but on the contrary are part of the courageous resistance against the horrors of Sharia and straight Muslim males, and that the collapse of sex, love, family and reproduction would totally not be problem if it was not for all the immigration.
One of the many links a silenced was that migrants were turning German schools into hell. However the article consisted of a good progressive interviewing a good progressive teacher, and one of the factors causing the school to be hell was that the migrant boys aspired to physically fit, rather than androgynous intersexual blobs. Another factor, which both interviewer and interviewee ran in circles rationalising away, is that some migrant groups have substantially faster rates of physical maturation and substantially lower IQ, with the result that dumb adults well past puberty were stuffed by year into the same classroom as smart children just entering puberty, resulting in problems that the interviewer and interviewee could experience and complain about, but not properly name or describe.
The links direct rightists who are in dissent over immigration back to the reservation on race, sex, and sexuality. The payload is not “mass migration is a bad thing”, but “yes, it is a bad thing, but differences between the races and the sexes do not actually exist, and mass migration is a bad thing because many migrants are apt to falsely imagine that they do exist.”
Of course, but you’re answering from the perspective of what’s good for the common man. I was referring to what’s politically expedient for the people in charge.
A mongrelized, deindustrialized, vaxed-and-boosted, perpetually-at-war America is similarly not good for the vast majority of Americans, but it has been of great utility to “America” as a political entity, meaning the kinds of shitweasels who get paid to hang out at U.N. summits, green energy conventions and Bilderberg/WEF conferences while lecturing us about our white male privilege. They are America’s public face, or were until extremely recently.
“Israel” as a political entity and the tentacles associated with it (Mossad, AIPAC, etc.) tend not to be aligned with the interests of the Israeli people, and a state-funded shill-op would advance the interests of the former, not the latter.
‘Just like many other families, I want my eight kids, and possibly more in the future, to have access to all the beauty the Church has to give,’ organizer Joseph VanAssche told LifeSite.
Source: https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/faithful-catholics-prayerfully-protest-latin-mass-suppression-in-detroit/
Eight kids, above replacement fertility.
Demographic gentrification?
Slaughter of Afro-American unborn children restores the cities?
What would E. Michael Jones think of this situation?
(Excuse me for if I used too many questions/question marks)
Haha, Kermit Gosnell was a national hero; every crying niglet he flushed down the toilet saved future taxpayers millions of dollars in welfare, crime, and imprisonment.
Latin-massers are stepping up to provide those future taxpayers, and the ones I knew were nice people. It angered me to see them getting kicked out of Vatican-owned schools and churches, but they seemed pretty calm about it.
When I asked a grandmother of fifty (children, not years) if she was a sedevacantist, she humbly replied, “No, because I might be wrong.”
Assuming “Mossadnik (MN)” is some branch of actual Jew, I fully support his right to live at peace in a national “Jewish” purity, in “Israel”, at least as it was before the Muslims invaded slaughtered them and planted a stupid fucking Mosque on their Temple, even in whatever we can discern as the Covenant-Lands of Exodus and the two Jewish Kingdoms.
MN can handle the “Palestinian Question” however he wants, because the original Palestinians already got invaded raped slaughtered and replaced by Islam too, so that’s on Islam now.
If MN wants to risk God by smashing Christian antiquities in Israel, that’s on him, the Bible lives on regardless.
I don’t trust Jim the Censor to keep his petty tyranny away from my free people who want nothing to do with his jackass, but if he’s a white-type city-state I think we could at least come to his aid when needed.
If MN agrees to pull his Jews from this white land back to Israel, then likewise we shall have a good long friendship together.
No point in posting on this censored blog, so stop paging me on here all the time, and assuming you know shit about fuck, because I’m not coming back.
But I am laughing at how Jim’s Papi Trumpo just imported even more Muslim Gazans into Jim’s White Land to help outbreed and replace Jim even faster. Jim could have got off his blog and lobbied Trump against importation, but he didn’t. Oh well, hope Jim likes paying Jizya to Mamdani’s Gay Marxist Brothel, because Trump’s wall will have no exits.
And the mischlings too!
(I’m perfectly serious.)
Moldbug in IDF uniform needs to happen.
Better yet: Moldbug as a shepherd on the hills of Samaria.
(At 16 I was a Hitler fan; but also, of course, a Kahane fan.)
Anyone with substantial Jewish ancestry should make aliyah. It’s in our interest just as much, if not more so, as it’s in your interest. You want to get rid of subversive kikes; we urgently need more high-quality people to join us. Win-win.
Dead serious. Look at demographic projections for Israel, re: Ultra-Orthodox. We need those entirely unorthodox mischlings, saar. Do the needful!
What’s a decent summary of Kahane’s beliefs?
The materials I have on him are pretty much all written by his enemies, but I can infer he probably supported:
Jewry should leave other countries and go to Israel.
Israeli’s should ethnically cleanse non-Jewish minorities in Israel and take clear demographic hegemony over it. Israel should be run for the good of Jews and should stand on its own not depending on Western goodwill, tribute, or military support.
Liberal jews are a lightning rod to draw hatred onto Jews from Americans and Euros and should shut the hell up (and go to Israel).
Jews are the master race, chosen by God. Other races/religions are inferior.
Is that pretty much his program? Or Pogrom if you prefer?
Yep, that’s a pretty accurate picture.
His central focus was on the necessity of expelling the Muslim Arab (“Palestinian”) population from the entire area between the Jordan River and the Mediterranean Sea. He also sought to institute Jewish law in the state (IIRC via a Sanhedrin); and he suggested that the Old Testament should be our Constitution. And, of course, advocated removing the Abomination of Desolation (that damn Islamic Compound) from the Temple Mount.
That’s not exactly my ideal vision today — for instance, I understand why it was Christianity, not Judaism, that gave birth to modern technological and scientific civilization — but I had a quasi-Kahanist phase back in the day, and I do believe that we would be much better off had we followed him and expelled at least the bulk of Palestinians to neighboring, Arab, and Muslim countries, which has always been the most humane, life-saving solution.
Failure to follow Kahane on the Palestinian Problem led to October 7 and the current Gaza war, and will likely lead to further bloodshed in the future. Expulsion is quite often the preferable alternative to war and genocide; Europeans should take special note here regarding their own growing Mohammedan population.
I can understand that. If I were a Jew, I’d probably be a Kahanist. Seems to me he’s one of the few reasonably sincere about being a Jew and obeying God’s commandments as he understands them. Were I a Moslem, I’d probably be Taliban for the same reason. I’m neither, thus I’m a reactionary Protestant, because I believe that’s the best approximation to God’s will.
I believe that too, but admittedly I’m an extreme outlier on this issue in my society. I’d very much like Jews to become Protestant Christians, but for that to ever happen, as I like to say, first the Christians will have to become Christians. My trolling of BAP is a sincere kind of trolling; if the West (more concretely: the white race) abandons Christianity and dies of literal and metaphorical AIDS, how will the Jews ever be saved, in the theological sense? I mean, it will become rather less likely.
Is stormfront.org considered “alt-right”?
They seem to understand the aspect of the races and the racial problem regarding some parameters needed for success of a coherent national-civ pretty well.
Stormfront is a honeypot run by the left. Or it was. Possibly it is now run by Thermidor, or possibly Thermidor is attempting without success to take it away from the left.
It was a soap opera for awhile, with David Duke marrying Don Black’s wife, or vice versa, I forget which.
Don Black getting convicted for some conspiracy to overthrow some Caribbean country.
Don Black’s son “disavowing” his former racist self and becoming a liberal.
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[Please take the shill test described in the moderation policy and get white listed*]
You have been making post after post, all of which have been silently deleted. As a reward for amazingly stubborn persistence, I am instead giving you a notice and a reply.
Though I don’t have any interest in whatever the fuck goes down in the MidEast (though both the Jews and Muslims have invaded my country and are both working from inside to take it over (quite successfully actually), so I do have a serious beef with them, at least the ones already inside my country, and with the asshole Politicians letting them in)…
My understanding is that the Muslims invaded and took the “West Bank” and “Gaza” ages ago, by force, for no reason other than Mohammad and his “Allah” declaring that [*Jewish shill payload that they had Palestine till the Muslims took it from them deleted*]
You named yourself NarrativeQ, because Q became a one hundred percent shilling operation, and “The Narrative” is the alt right word for what you guys are trying to pump us full of. Your name unironically says “I am a Jewish shill, and this is a Jewish shilling operation pumping out the same old same old narrative that Jim sees all the time and silences all the time.
Dar al Islam did not take the Holy Land from the Jews. They took it from the Christians.
I get so many shills declaring that they are being oppressed by those horrible Jews, who are so much more clever than us poor Goyim, and then giving us reality as the Israeli Permanent government and the Washington neocons like to pretend that it is. I have been getting this since forever: “Gas the Jews because Jews are so wonderful”.
The history of who held the Holy Land is as follows. Pharisees come up with no end of wonderfully clever rationalisations as to why thoroughly evil behaviour is good and righteous. Jesus calls them out, and prophesies that they will kill him, and lose the Holy Land thereby.
Bad behaviour and indignant self righteousness about that bad behaviour pisses off the Romans, who clear them out of the Holy Land, as prophesied. Christians take over the Roman Empire, and particularly and especially the Holy Land.
Christians become split and weak, due to wicked heresies. Mohammed conquers Holy Land. Jews get expelled over and over again from one place after another for much the same reasons as the Romans expelled them, but eventually secular socialist Jews reconquer the Holy Land. And here we are.
Once we have a genuinely Christian monarchy, then we can take on the Mohammedans. Until then, just have to suck it up.
Since I see some convis. We don’t have these problems in Mexico yet, but our Politicians are no bueno, so I suspect we will begin having some of this as you say “Diversity” being imported in to wreck even us too. I don’t know who is behind it in your countries. Only some woke here only in big cities.
https://modernity.news/2025/09/05/sharia-law-us-police-dept-introduces-arabic-patch/
https://thegatewaypundit.com/2025/09/uk-insanity-islamic-radical-shabana-mahmood-named-failing/
Mi town is safe because not even they will come live here in town no one cares about.
Most of our problem is the Socialist Politicians, drug gangs, robbers. Really the Politicians are very guilty of everything here, and big corrupta too.
But now I can see the UK and USA now have another big intractable problem as a result of the Politicians.
Pray for you to beat both of them, and the woke, but is going to be very hard for you I think.
But i am too old.