Firstly, America cannot have peace with anyone until it has a sovereign who can say “war with the outgroup” and every member of the ingroup is at war, or imprisoned as a traitor, and can say “peace with the outgroup”, and everyone in the state apparatus is at peace with the outgroup, or gets sent in chains to the outgroup. All our previous living arrangements with India, China, and Russia have been torpedoed by elements of the state apparatus acting on their own initiative. As well as murdering Russian civilians inside and outside of Russia, and organising terrorism inside Russia, in our efforts to block and disrupt the Chinese Belt and Road Initiative, we are currently murdering Chinese civilians outside China engaged in the Belt and Road Initiative, and funding and arming terrorism inside China. This has to stop, and it can only be stopped by making conspicuous examples of offenders. They need a dramatic and conspicuous perp walk followed by a dramatic and conspicuous deportation.
Any peace deal that does not result in at least one dramatic perp walk is not going to be worth the paper it is written on.
Trump wants peace. Does he have the will to hold a perp walk? Does he have the power? In the events leading to World War I, it turned out that the Serbian sovereign, in so far as they had a sovereign at all, had neither that will nor that power. When Emperor Hirohito of Japan sought to make peace he had to seize the necessary authority, which had slipped from the emperor’s fingers long ago. In the process, the imperial palace developed quite a lot of bullet holes, and quite a few high ranking Japanese “committed suicide”. For Trump to grab the power needed to make a peace with Russia and China that is worth more than the paper it is written on, a similar power grab may be required.
Trump wants peace because he just does not like people being killed. He also wants peace because he needs an excuse to end sanctions, which are hurting Europe and America worse than they are hurting Russia, and especially financial sanctions, the weaponisation of Swift, which is hurting America far more severely than it is hurting Russia or China.
Assuming he successfully grabs the power needed to make peace, which may well look rather like a self coup, what does America and the Ukraine have to give up for peace?
Russia has no alternative but to insist on denazification and neutrality for the Ukraine, which is to say, a government for the Ukraine that is not run from the CIA and the State Department, and if it cannot get that, will fight on till the Ukraine is out of Ukrainians, and very likely till Eastern Europe is out of Eastern Europeans. Putin rejects any negotiations with Zelensky, because he is an illegitimate president, installed by the Maidan coupists with fake elections marred by murder, terror, and suppression of speech. Those elections happened a long time ago, Zelensky’s term has long expired, and no one has bothered to pretend to hold fresh elections since, or even cancel or postpone the scheduled elections which instead just somehow never happened. So a precondition for peace is to install a new president by some plausibly legitimate process — one would hope by free and fair election, though Putin is alarmingly flexible on that question. He is not flexible on the question of plausible legitimacy. By “legitimate” he likely means “dismiss your puppets, and I don’t care how things shake out in their absence.”
If the State Department had bothered to hold fresh elections in the Ukraine, or perhaps extend Zelensky’s term by some other process, or formally cancel or postpone the elections, it would have likely just meant we would be murdering even more Ukrainian dissidents than we are murdering.
Trump promised peace on the first day. However a precondition for peace is going to be removal of the Zelensky regime, perhaps by free and fair elections, and removal of certain people in the CIA and state department, preferably by perp walk. Which will take a while. It is possible that Trump could negotiate on the first day a temporary truce and temporary end to sanctions to facilitate free and fair elections in the Ukraine. Elections to be followed by negotiations, that can extend the temporary truce into a permanent peace with Russia and China.
Russia is getting within reasonable distance of the last Ukrainian, and has no reason to stop short of going the rest of the way if it cannot get a genuine peace. The Ukraine has conscripted near three million men, but only has about three hundred thousand fighting men, and is now hitting the bottom of the barrel for the twenty five and up age group. I find it hard to believe that the other two and half million are in logistics, when American and Europe are handling logistics. It is unable to replace the current loss rate.
So that you can fully understand what is happening in the Kursk region, for our infantry there it is a one way trip. … We are there entirely under enemy fire. We leave our comrades’ bodies there. No one comes to get them. Today my section was attacked by armored vehicles. Almost everyone is dead. I didn’t even know those guys any more. It’s the third or fourth wave of replacement in our unit. …
The Ukraine can conscript some more, but the sixteen to twenty five age group was only a small proportion of the population, and is now mostly fled, and any that have not fled are going to go into deep hiding when the age of conscription is lowered. The Ukraine is currently also conscripting women, but due to previous disasters with female brigades on the front line, only in very small numbers. It could conscript all of them, which is a lot more warm bodies, but, judging by past performance, would not last long. After that, the children, but there are not very many of them, and they would last an even shorter time.
So Russia is now most of the way “to the last Ukrainian”. If no possibility of real peace, and there is no possibility of real peace till the American presidency is brought under control of the president, why not finish the job? As Putin said “America is not agreement capable.” If no possibility of agreement, no alternative but to continue “to the last Ukrainian.”
Is the last Eastern European up next? Is it all going to end in nuclear fire? World War One did not start because anyone intended to start World War One. It started because neither the King of Serbia nor the Emperor of Germany had the necessary power and authority to stop it from starting.
Why do you think so? Wouldn’t anyone who orders the armed forces of Ukraine to surrender and is obeyed suffice to achieve peace?
At the end of World War II, the armed forces of Germany surrendered unconditionally. Would you say that Dönitz then had became president by a plausibly legitimate process?
Possibly.
The white race woke up, including young Ukrainians, and they understand that the Zelensky Regime is a Satanic psyop run by people who want to (((kill whitey))).
As Frank Zappa would sing: “I don’t wanna get drafted, I don’t wanna go!”
Recall that the “Free Russians” that invaded Russia largely spoke Polish and English. Unless the American President gains control of the American Presidency, and stops Globohomo from forever making low level war on Russia, the last Eastern European will follow the last Ukrainian.
If the Ukraine falls, and gets a new President after the manner of Germany when its army laid down its arms in World War One, there will forever be “Free Russian” invasions of Russia, and “Free Ukrainian” invasions of the Ukraine.
There has to be a negotiated peace between China, Russia, and America, and Trump has to make the American government stick to it. which is going to require some impressive perp walks and deportations. We have been making low level war on Russia since the Bush presidency, and low level war on China since the Obama presidency, just as Serbia was engaged in low level war on Austria, leading to World War One.
If elements of the government engage in warlike acts without presidential authorisation, that has to be a crime. It was a crime when Lieutenant Oliver North took the fall for Reagan.
Thank you for the concrete Oliver North example. Oliver was in big trouble back then, but just imagine how many Oliver North’s are running around Eastern Europe now. Jesus.
The difference between Oliver North and the current lot, is that everyone knows that Oliver North had presidential authorisation, and lied about it to protect Reagan, while one of the impeachment charges against Trump was that he was trying to find out what these guys were doing and stop them.
Who cares about Russia? Isolationism is best. Let the foreigners fight their own wars. Focus instead on convicting the American elite who used Ukraine as a money laundering machine. Round up every twit who put the Ukraine flag in their profile and send them there. Likewise for the “free palestine” people.
Musk is now at odds with the right wing on twitter for supporting H1-Bs.
He’s wrong on this one, he just benefits from being able to import infinity pajeets for cheaper labour like many other big companies do.
I do hope he changes his mind, because otherwise he’ll only find browns and grifters on his side.
If Musk is being honest about only wanting to import the top global talent, he should be fine with immigration quotas being reduced by 99% – or more. Not to mention that the H1-B program is full of fraud and largely the hires have nothing to do with the supposed goal of the program.
It’s sad seeing a wedge being driven between Musk and right wingers, but this one-hundred percent his own doing. He needs to give up on the cheap foreign labour.
Even if you are actually importing smart Indians, you are importing low trust culture. Due to massive scamming and fraud in the H1B process, you are likely to be importing stupid Indians. If you manage to get in a smart Indian, and you let your smart Indian get anywhere near the hiring process, you are definitely going to be importing stupid Indians, who probably all have the same last name as the one you let get near the hiring process.
If you are importing H1Bs, you are dealing with India and Indians, and everyone in India is going to lie to you.
I fully agree with you on this, but this is too big of a thoughtcrime to say at the moment.
If immigration was limited (in general) to such an extent that only a tiny amount of people were allowed to come in, it would be a much smaller problem. And if Musk is honest about only wanting to import top global experts he can’t find anywhere, he should be convinced this is a reasonable compromise.
Either way, Tesla much like other companies that require a lot of labour has hired masses of H1-Bs to save money, from what I’ve heard (not totally sure on the details). It’s difficult to accept that this is a bad thing when the bottom line depends on it. And there are no end of right wing browns (like Vivek) who will obviously be supportive of it.
It is good that many are pushing back on this, and that Elon is at least arguing with them. Not so good if the end result is just him distancing himself from that side of the right because of it. Trump is also prone to being pro-immigration so it’s not great that there’s no one with different views at the top.
Trump said he is siding with H1Bs not good he (well the Republicans) is going to lose 10s of MILLIONS of votes the Democrats will get a supermajority and Trump will be hounded out of office. I almost feel like I should play my contact my old high school friend Alex Spiro card on this… but I’m not quite sure what to say. Indian immigration is absolute cancer and I can’t support Trump while he is supporting H1Bs. I only forgave him for Covid and for not crossing the Rubicon because the other side was so bad.
I don’t think votes matter at this point, only who counts the votes. I think whatever happens in 2026 will cause everyone to either uncuck themselves or be rendered irrelevant. So yes, there’s no place on this world where support for female emancipation is negative, and Trump, Musk, et. all are not budging on H1-Bs, but I don’t think they can hold this position as the red terror escalates.
Imagine Thermidor launching a white terror, and telling them to leave the poor H1-Bs alone. Not going to happen.
This is pretty good evidence that Musk does not actually know what time it is. And if Musk doesn’t know, then Trump definitely doesn’t know. We will drown and nobody shall save us.
What is needed is corresponding open borders for EVs. What do you say, Elon? A bit of competition will spur your fresh workers to new heights.
https://www.quora.com/Were-US-Marines-tougher-than-elite-German-troops-in-WW2
Found this inspirational to read so just do it.
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Elon, next time before/during a psychedelic trip, reflect on the paintings of Hieronymus Bosch, particularly but not exclusively on the triptych called “The Garden of Earthly Delights,” and consider what message might be conveyed there for you.
Then go read Chesterton.
Indeed. Reread Chesterton’s The Everlasting Man after completing Vendramini’s Them and Us to get back on track to proper Christmas spirit last week. I can indulge some philosophical cosmopolitanism from weirdos such as Diogenes and Musk but we didn’t expect the Dark variety of his MAGA to mean subcontinental.
If someone initiates war across your border you have two choices…
#1 Immediately throw everything at repelling the invader back out.
You don’t need to cross their border yet since that would be launching and declaring a war, but do need to send a message.
So you must brutally slaughter every single one of their men, putting the heads of their generals and officers on pikes along your border, and leaving the rest to rot on the spot as fertilizer for your fields and carrion for your vultures, and fuel for your fires seeding their border winds with the stench of their men.
#2 Wimp around, slow roll, and find out how the invader will continue to kill, flatten, burn, rape, and plunder you next.
The West chose #2.
The West kept choosing #2.
The West lost the open phase.
Now if you faithfully execute #1 (just for the shockback quick end, and/or also because your intel said #4 wasnt necessary at that time), and if instead of fleeing, they still keep coming across, and if your defensive losses become noticeable, then your intel estimates should tell you to either #3 launch strikes of decapitation and anti-warsupply and general warfare across their border to win, or to #4 negotiate and surrender. And #5 continue grinding each other till someone calls #4.
The East kept coming.
The West’s losses were noticeable.
The West had intel indicating they weren’t quite at #4 yet on the physical war, but failed to include the longer geopolitical turning going on against them in the rest of the world in their net-estimate (AMAFROBRICKS).
The West couldn’t do #3, nor could the East against the West, because nukes.
The West kept choosing #2.
The West lost the middle-end phase.
The West keeps talking about doing #1, but keeps doing #2, which again keeps indicating they don’t have the balls and/or the power to do #1 (and/or the diplomatic framing skills to keep the kaboom mutually off the table during the proxy fight between West and East in the lands of the third country [UA]). So eventually they will have to do #4.
The West could have just given up two of the regions early on and settled points on the diplo, now it’s up to a hard four, and soon will be more if it keeps doing #2, while failing at #1 which just results in more loss, instead of doing #4.
Globally… this war probably defines some arcs of rationale a bit, but weakens borders massively. And the UN/etc remains pointlessly cucked as usual.
The West is dividing into ballsy factions around doing #1, it’s tolerant but pissed about the cables and SOSUS cuts, does not want to give up the gas/oil west of Crimea, doesn’t want the East to get the whole arc it already got let alone up to the Dnieper, is probably almost completely out of ammo stockpiles, has been incredibly stupid and disjoint on the diplomatic/military/sanction fronts, and has no idea how to play AMAFROBRICKS.
Going Woke and Climate and Covid and GloboHomo thoroughly wrecked the West beyond belief too.
They would have been better to fully friend and partner
with Russia 35 years ago when Russia came asking.
Now it’s better if the West’s Citizenries just riseup and depose their fucked up Governments.
Zelensky might find himself exiled to Israel, running for President there up against Sheinbaum, see how the Jews vote.
Huh? Nuts.
What was the West doing in Ukraine overthrowing the government in the first place? They crossed Ukraine’s borders first. If you think the west should have reacted to Russia crossing Ukraine’s borders, should not Russia have reacted to the West crossing Ukraine’s borders? Putin should have intervened immediately in 2014.
Right now, as we speak, the President of Georgia is asking for European and American intervention against the party that just won the election. The election outcome in Moldova was simply ignored. Not only have there been no free elections in the Ukraine after 2014, there were no elections at all after Zelensky was “elected”. And the way the wind blows, no further elections in Moldova.
These disputes are not genuinely internal — they are the American empire exercising imperial power in nations adjacent to Russia. If Globohomo is allowed to exercise power in these state, why not Russia?
The only reason the election Georgia seems likely to take effect, is that is a long way between Georgia and the nearest Globohomo military base. Otherwise the president would have just cancelled the election as she attempted to do, and gotten away with it, as she failed to accomplish.
When she attempted to cancel the Georgian election, as the Moldovan election was cancelled, and Ukrainian elections were just silently not held, people would have paid attention, fearing the next step, which she just took, calling for American and European “assistance”. The ultimate constitution of the nations of Western Europe is what people think the US military might do.