How to deport eighteen million illegals

I saw Vance accepting the defeatist frame that it is hard to deport eighteen million illegals.  No it is not hard.  Tony Abbot in Australia faced a smaller but similar problem, and here is how he handled it:

Everyone has interactions where you have to present your ID:  Cops, welfare, hospitals, and so on and so forth.  And they then run your ID through their computers.  Which in Australia, if you are an illegal immigrant or have an expired visa, then automatically notifies the border control computers. Whereupon border control computer asks the cops to hold you around till the border patrol shows up, or border patrol shows up at the hospital or wherever.

Then, without bothering with lawyers and judges, the illegal is detained until he can arrange a plane out.

Suppose, alas, he cannot arrange a plane out. “Alas, I conveniently lost my passport and all my ID, not to mention there are a whole lot of people in my home country who want to kill me on sight.”  Then he stays in detention for a while.  And then a while longer.  A fusillade of letters to judges are all ignored.  Even though Tony Abbot has been out of power for a long time and his policies have been systematically white anted, judges still will not touch the border patrol.  Tony Abbot left the judges with lasting trauma.

This usually jogs the illegal’s memory and he discovers he is entitled to reside in some country that is not Australia.

Suppose it does not jog his memory.   Quite possibly there is prison, or some very angry people, awaiting him at home. When Tony Abbot started expelling people, there were a huge number of such cases.  Then he gets put on a boat, shipped somewhere, and dumped some place that is not Australia.   If he is being unhelpful, this is likely a place where no one wants to be.

533 comments How to deport eighteen million illegals

Pete says:

Looks like Gaetz got stonewalled by the Republicans and is withdrawing. Which means the Republicans are going to stonewall absolutely everything Trump tries to do, just like last time.

Which means that in 2029 the Left is going to come raging back into power, ready to punish the living shit out of the country that dared to reject them in this election.

DH says:

Which means that in 2029 the Left is going to come raging back into power

Even if Trump is not the true King, the Right still gets 4 years to prepare; no doubt the Left will attempt to return, but it’s not inevitable that it will succeed. Some things can and should be done about it. Since what drives the younger generations is TFW NO GF, which is not about to change anytime soon, (for to change it, need to control female sexuality, which is still far outside the Overton Window), by 2029 the Right will likely be even more motivated to win this thing than ever before.

DH says:

There are still dinosaurs among us who tell us that it used to be common (or at least not so uncommon) to marry a virgin bride when you were in your late teens or early twenties, and she a few years younger. And Occidental TFR is below replacement level. That’s the meaning of liberating female sexuality: all women are something between and a slut and a whore, and you can’t have a large, stable family. That may be the difference between this Thermidor and previous ones – if it doesn’t break radically to the right (sufficiently early), it’s Bronze Age collapse. And some people are feeling it in their bones and in their balls.

Jim says:

Secular cycle. All civilisations in their rising phase had women under control, their sexuality severely restrained. This is stressfull. Fathers just do not like their daughters becoming the absolute property of a nonkin male. Women get victimised by evil men, bad husbands and negligent fathers.

This control declines, and civilisation declines and collapses.

Searching back for the earliest beginnings of female emancipation, I found a poor father who sold his daughter into apprenticeship to be an entertainer, which the authorities reasonably suspected was selling her into a brothel. This came to their attention when a noble purchased her to be his personal concubine, which from the point of view of instinctual female behaviour and unconscious motivation, is hitting the jackpot. So the court emancipated her, whereupon this emancipated female got into the nobleman’s carriage and went back to his mansion. But now, being emancipated, her chances of having a happy ending are radically reduced. What the court should have done is given the noble full and complete ownership, but slapped him with the obligation to look after her and her offspring. Which they were reluctant to do, because of the conflict with monogamy. So now she has the right to attempt to trade up, or to get more cash and prizes, and because she does, he has less reason to keep her around, and better moral justification for dumping her when her looks fade, or she is encumbered by children that his legitimate children find inconvenient. The court attempted to severe the relationship, on the foolish assumption that the girl was being coerced into immoral behaviour. Rather, they should have cemented the relationship, to make it less immoral. No one ever needs to coerce women into immoral behaviour. All women are like that. The problem rather is that they want to behave immorally with only a small minority of men. Which results in the vast majority of men becoming demotivated, and less inclined to work, to pay taxes, and fight for God, King, and Country. And not long thereafterwards, results in considerably fewer men.

They severed the coercive aspects of the nobleman’s relationship with the girl, when the virtuous action would have been to have balanced them with obligations.

In order for a civilisation to thrive, has to ensure that husbands and wives are stuck with each other, or else you get defect/defect equilibrium. But this requires men to protect the property rights of other men in women, and why would they? It suits their collective interests, but in a large civilisation, does not suit their individual interests. And so they stop doing it. Little by little, Chesterton’s fence is dismantled. It starts with examples of men behaving very badly towards women in their care, as with the dad who sold his daughter into what very likely a thinly disguised brothel, which resold her to a nobleman, and pretty soon you have the family services and child protective services kicking down men’s doors, throwing them out of their homes, tearing down their families, and selling their sons to gay couples.

Note to self: Promote this comment to a post on the secular cycle.

But when we say a civilisation declines, we do not pay much attention to their elite population reproducing. We p[ay attention to the products of their intellectual output. We pay attention to them killing or demoting successful generals, enslaving or killing great builders. We pay attention to the bureaucratic simulcra of reason replacing actual reason. This is negative sum institutions in general, while the failure of reproduction is negative sum institutions regulating sexual conduct. So which comes first? Does failure of institutions governing reproduction cause failure of all other institutions, or is it just one failure of all the others. Family has collapsed, and scientific papers have been drowned out by publish or perish rubbish, roughly simultaneously. It looks to me that failure of family prefigures the failure of positive some skills, because if dad is in the elite, and your brothers are in the elite, you are going to be highly motivated to engage in positive sum interaction with your dad and your brothers. Nepotism and aristocracy, like Kingship, creates opportunity and incentive to make institutions positive sum.

If men and women have an adversarial relationship, kids are going to be raised in an environment where negative sum competition is normal. And when they go into the administrative elite, will play negative sums games. And if people play negative sum games in intellectual activity, we will see what causes us to call a civilisation declining.

If male and female cooperation in reproduction, enforced by soveregn, official Church, society, and family, people are apt to have considerably more sons. And the younger sons are not going to take over their father’s lands, nor his title if he has one, nor his business if he has one. They will go forth to seek their fortune. So you have an energetic and active civilisation full of energetic and active people. And the lack of these is one of the signs of a civilisation in decline. And since these people are doing new things, they will be thirsty for good knowledge and good skills.

If population is decline, you don’t need to build new aqueducts, new great public buildings, new sewers. And, after a couple of generations of not building them, you forget how. Even if the knowledge is theoretically recorded in books or on clay tablets, most of the necessary knowledge is tacit knowledge, which can only be transmitted by the apprentice following the master around and doing what he is told. So future people look at the aqueducts and great buildings, and say “civilisation declined after date such and such.”

And, of course, if your population goes on declining, you eventually get conquered and replaced, and future historians will say “this civilisation, its language, and its writings ended at date such and such”

If you don’t get conquered, it is only because your population is endlessly replaced by a flow of migrants from the periphery, and you lose trust and social cohesion, and then get conquered. The Roman Empire in the west fell for lack of virtue, but it lacked virtue because it lacked Romans.

Obviously there is no end of other things that can go terribly wrong with a civilisation, a nation or a people, but in Joseph Tainter’s survey in his book “the collapse of complex societies”, population decline prefigures and precedes the problems to which he attributes collapse.

DH says:

It looks to me that failure of family prefigures the failure of positive sum skills

Yes. Sexual and reproductive entropy sets in motion all the other forms of social entropy, whose combined impact is the certain downfall of civilization. But failure of elite reproduction seems to be the primary failure mode in declining civilizations. An anti-natalist memeplex is the fire on the altar, the priesthood preaches free love or prohibits marriage (same effect), females are allowed unrestricted mate choice, everyone and females in particular is liberated and encouraged to follow their own personal failure modes (aka “sins”) all the way to self-destruction, and civilization gives in to entropy. That’s why “Harvard delenda est” is the top strategic priority.

DH says:

Humans were banished from paradise because Adam failed Eve’s shit test.

For civilization to decline and collapse due to male collective refusal to seize the means of reproduction and regulate female sexuality is for us to fail the shit test of a lifetime. That male collective refusal to pass the shit test is rooted in an almost complete (though now slowly diminishing) memetic pwnage or possession by the hostile egregore centered in Harvard, and the problem remains until that egregore is killed and a new, friendly egregore is summoned by Gnon’s Priesthood.

i says:

This indicates that while Monogamy should be a socially enforced norm. It cannot be necessity be absolute given the inevitable actions of this nobleman and the woman he made his concubine. Hence making his polygamy official shotgun style is preferable to the alternatives.

Similarly to the Churches with Africa who had to contend with polygamous converts. Some enforced divorce to ensure monogamy but that led to destitution on the part of the women concerned. So they modified their stance to allow for polygamous families to remain intact. And descendants not to repeat their polygamy.

For clergy. Monogamy has to be absolute. To provide an example and norm to follow.

Pax Imperialis says:

>For clergy. Monogamy has to be absolute. To provide an example and norm to follow.

Then you get holiness spiraling towards monogamy and back towards exceptions being made. Monogamy is essential for the masses, but for those of the virtuously vital, must not be essential. Aristocratic warrior elites, top nobles and clergy must at the very least have a single legal wife and, at their discretion, legal concubine(s).

Fidelis says:

>This indicates that while Monogamy should be a socially enforced norm

Monogamy makes the most sense in the old pattern of the Gens, where the seat of identity was the patriarchal transition of the secret rites from father to son. In this case, the wife is a sacred vessel through which the spirit is carried, no more and no less. Any other woman cannot fit this pattern, similar to how a coin cannot have more than two faces, and thus cannot be a wife.

I don’t see how polygamy is a genuine barrier to a functional society and therefore should be squeezed out socially or otherwise. Elites should have more access to reproduction, and it will never be so untenable that middle class men get nothing, because women marry younger. I don’t see some 1000+ harems forming when fathers have rights over their daughters, except as very strange exceptions.

Making sure people leading the church are monogamous solves a distinct problem: as the leader of a church you are granted a lot of abusable social power. If you as a priest take lots of wives from your following, you end up with a bad incentive, which inevitably spirals into the FLDS state. Men are expelled as competition, and you have a tiny group of men and lots of women, lots of incest, and are rendered incapable of resisting any sort of violence. It’s different when you are a society and brides are first the total property of the father. You cannot take more than you are capable of handling, more than you can convince the father you are capable of handling better than another man.

alf says:

Enforcing monogamy for the elite has a lot of comparisons to telling magnets not to attract one another. The stronger the patriarchy, the stronger the libido of the men, the more enthusiastically women will throw themselves in the path of the top men. Some men find it very hard to resist.

Which is not to say they shouldn’t resist, or at least very seriously try to resist. Lust is a sin, and the palace which has a rotating harem of whores for the king will suffer under said sins.

DH says:

Obviously there is no end of other things that can go terribly wrong with a civilisation, a nation or a people, but in Joseph Tainter’s survey in his book “the collapse of complex societies”, population decline prefigures and precedes the problems to which he attributes collapse.

Yes, I believe that too. Failure to propertize and allocate pussy in an orderly manner loosens all of society’s morals, which facilitates a leftist holiness spiral initially driven by envy and eventually driven by spite. Leftism is in a sense a holy justification to discard Divine Law and pursue — whether as an individual or as a society — whatever delightful failure mode, whatever sin, one craves the most. Which rapidly leads the individual to destitution and the civilization to collapse. Sin came into the world through Eve; all problems are secondary to the Woman Problem.

DH says:

Of course, what causes this failure of advanced civilizations in the first place is having an evil, Gnostic priesthood that preaches pretty lies instead of harsh truths. The Woman Problem is civilization’s Pandora’s Box, but why is there a WP? Because the priests have given in to their own sins, have lost their virtue and became a wicked, demonic priesthood (fundamentally, an anti-priesthood posing as a priesthood), which is a common problem with priesthoods. It is the role of the King, if he wants to maintain the Mandate of Heaven, to make sure that the Priesthood adheres to Divine Wisdom. The King is the final arbiter. And right now we don’t have a King — the evil priesthood has abolished kings — and so priestly sin is allowed to run loose.

DH says:

Because Stalin actually did rule, he was able to tell the Priesthood: “You you will be as sinful as I tell you, and no more sinful than that.” Same with Hitler and FDR. But, as we know, that only delays the decline; it doesn’t avert it, since the Priesthood is still incredibly sinful. And currently in the Globohomosphere, there is no one in charge to at least tell the Priesthood, “You can be as sinful as that, and no more.” But Trump still has the potential.

The ideal, of course, is having a Virtuous Priesthood that will preach Jimianity to the elite, and a King who makes sure that the Priesthood does indeed remain Virtuous and keeps preaching the truth.

DH says:

An evil state religion inevitably leads to a kakistocracy, with the main vector being the emancipation of women. Failure seizing and properly allocating the means of reproduction leads to all sorts of social entropy, sin bringing in more sin, the leftist holiness spiral accelerates, and civilization falls to enemies and to barbarism from the outside and/or from the inside. The problem starts the moment you have hostile entryism within the priesthood (usually in the form of gay demon-worshippers conspiring to capture the priesthood), which is a recurrent problem with priesthoods.

Alternatively, no Hilkiah finding the book of the law, no Josiah initiating a religious revolution. The priesthood can be the source of the downfall; it can also provide the spark for the restoration – and for that, it needs a Prophet to inspire it in that direction.

W says:

Holy shit.

DH says:

The flip side can be an evil King choosing to persecute a virtuous priesthood and give high-status to a satanic priesthood (ideally one that will allow him to commit whatever sin he wants), but that is not the usual source of the problem, and that is not our problem. Our problem is lack of king, and a satanic priesthood — the priesthood of social entropy — running Globohomo, looking to infect the whole world with the memetic poz, to loot the world where it’s possible, and finally to destroy the world in demonic wrath and demonic glee.

If you don’t worship God, you worship demons.

i says:

@Pax Imperialis

The harems that we read about in history occurred in Highly Centralised states with an entire infrastructure that allowed for such harems to exist. Including Eunuchs and it’s equivalents. The Old Testament ban on men with damaged or no testicles from being admitted into the assembly of the Lord(Deuteronomy 23:1) a horrible and abominable condition along with the warnings against accumulating too many wives were attempts to forestall that. Likewise with the injunctions against cross-dressing which indicates an underlying disgust of the mutilations of the masculine and feminine. In other places the Harem was guarded by an Amazonian guard instead of Eunuchs.

Pax Imperialis says:

>The harems that we read about in history occurred in Highly Centralised states with an entire infrastructure that allowed for such harems to exist. Including Eunuchs and it’s equivalents.

Not advocating for there being imperial harems with 500 concubines cloistered inside a forbidden city with 1000 Eunuchs attending to their palace intrigues. High status men are naturally going to have some side ass. Rather than trying to endlessly police that, force them to take their side women as their legal concubine. Most men, even high status ones, will naturally have their limits.

Btw, Musk has effectively built a harem without a highly centralized state and associated infrastrucure.

The Cominator says:

Harems deplete the pool of women too much, put the nymphos in brothels. Problem solved. Everyone can still fuck young pussy when the wife gets old and ugly. Rich men can pay to have them as mistresses.

Jim says:

In order to make prostitution low status, the brothels have to own the whores, and be able to sell them to rich men as concubines. Otherwise whores are apt to be seen by women as high status. Albeit brothel ownership has to be considerably weaker and less enforceable than concubine ownership, concubine ownership less enforceable than wife ownership, so that status goes with ownership, which is the natural inclination of women.

Your Uncle Bob says:

I wondered what Gaetz was doing resigning his seat before confirmation. At best, he and/or Trump thought a deal had been struck. Instead, a stab in the back. A bad sign for Trump knowing what time it is, though possibly yet another learning opportunity rather than fatal.

Not completely impossible for Trump the negotiator to Gaetz as an opening bid to slide through someone else better for them in comparison but still acceptable to us. But not the way to bet either, given personnel and cutting the gordian knot are his two weaknesses.

A shame, because the hatchet job only made me like him more. The back and forth led me to a good video of Gaetz talking about his colleagues’ insider trading I wouldn’t have seen otherwise.

They led off by floating rumors of boy-loving, but by the end had retreated to rumors of consensual sex with a 17 year old girl. I’m out of step with full red pill culture in thinking don’t do that unless you’re trying to wife her up, but still, proves he’s not a Podesta or a tunnel jew if that’s all they’ve got.

Jim says:

I fear normality bias at work. That anyone cared, or thought it necessary to pretend to care, disturbs and frightens me. I predicted the contrary.

Hesiod says:

Trump announced former FL state AG Pam Bondi as his new nominee. Oh, to know what’s currently going on in Trump’s Privy Council…

Hesiod says:

Oh-ho, Bondi is the AG who spared no expense to bring to justice that Nazi poster boy George Zimmerman who, I’m sure we all remember vividly, mercilessly gunned down that cherubic Trayvon Martin just for being black and eating Skittles.

A most curious replacement, indeed…

Jehu says:

I recall that, although note that Zimmerman didn’t get convicted. Whether that’s because she didn’t railroad him, or was incompetent to railroad, or something else I don’t know. It looks like she was AG from 2011 to 2019, a period where Florida’s ‘rule of law’ improved quite a bit. I grew up there, a lot of areas that used to be ghettos are now pretty respectable and safe enough to walk around in despite the racial demographic not really changing that much.

Jim says:

Let us hope it was politically impossible to not attempt to railroad Zimmerman, but it was politically possible to deliberately screw up the railroad. And the railroading went wrong in ways that look deliberate.

Zimmerman’s arrest and detention was unambiguously illegal, since to prevent lawfare, the stand your ground law says you cannot arrest and detain someone for a jury trial, unless certain conditions are satisfied which were quite obviously not satisfied. The prosecution went on a full bore railroading operation which involved massive fraud, evidence tampering, witness tampering, and perjury, but the defense was allowed to object, and these objections were sustained, even though perjury and fraud went unpunished. This was preceded by the case being moved from judge to judge like a hot potato, which presumably reflected a power struggle over whether the judge was going to play ball with perjury and fraud.

However, Trump is now going to have an attorney general who had a prosecutorial team who engaged in witness tampering, evidence tampering, perjury, and fraud, in order to secure the conviction of an innocent man for left wing political reasons. If Zimmerman, why not Trump and Musk.

The Cominator says:

Literally everywhere in Florida that isn’t Jacksonville is safe to walk at night. Yes this includes nigger areas (once again other than Jacksonville).

Jehu says:

Yeah Florida has gotten a lot safer since I was younger. Even at 2am in a black neighborhood at a gas station in St Pete didn’t feel unsafe. I think the trend started in the early 2000s or late 1990s. But I’m a bit of a loss to explain why—Florida was one of the first CCW shall-issue states I suppose. What degree of credit is due to the AGs during that timespan I can’t say. But during it, for instance, Tampa really cleaned up Ybor city and made it a good nightlife spot. And the Puerto Rican Punisher (a MMA guy now working as a bouncer at the Mons Venus) beat the snot out of a crazy guy with a sawed off shotgun dressed as a cosplay Satan who was intending to shoot up the place. The Tampa cops congratulated him and took pictures with him.

Fidelis says:

Jim, you said it yourself, Gaetz not getting put in regardless of the senate implies a fatal normailty bias. Whether the second pick is terrible or not — leaning towards terrible — holds no relation to the fact we may be in a situation that has become irreversible.

Implies but does not confirm, Trump is yet to take the seat. Going to reserve all predictions on what they really think until we see what he does. Musk was posting Sulla memes after all, and now he’s hanging out with Trump full time.

Either way, past time to prepare for the worst. We got lucky either way, the energy will be diminished for some time compared to the previous trajectory.

JustAnotherGuy says:

Maybe the 2026 date wasn’t wrong after all…

JustAnotherGuy says:

To be honest, that isn’t such a bad outcome with Trump in charge. If things do get bad and push comes to shove, he will be forced to do what is needed.

Jim says:

I never retracted the 2026 date. I said that recent events increased the likelihood that I could be wrong.

And Bondi replacing Gaetz is a strong indicator that 2026 is right on target.

Contaminated NEET says:

>possibly yet another learning opportunity

The Great Orange Boomer is 125 years old and his brain is fully calcified. He hasn’t been capable of learning new things since 1995.

Pax Imperialis says:

Augustus was only possible because of “Boomer” Julius. It’s pretty clear that all those around “The Great Orange Boomer” knows what time it is.

Fidelis says:

Do they? The DoGE plan as written — as written at least, we’ll see the practice next year — involves similar lawfare compliance that you would need to get Gaetz put in, and we just saw that did not work. The second pick was extremely weak, looks to me like capitulation. I’m sure there’s at least a handful of types pushed to the edge of politics that, maybe not as strong as Gaetz may have been, at least would signal a new normal, a new crowd. Instead we get Meloni from Florida.

Very ominous. We’ll have to wait and see what happens next year, but I’m not that hopeful anyone besides Musk sees that we need a Sulla if you want to glue the Republic back together for another generation, and no one seems to think the Republic needs to be replaced.

Pax Imperialis says:

Yes, it is ominous that “Boomer Julius” continues to act as such. Yes, it is ominous that Musk desires a Sulla rather than an Augustus… but this is the natural progression of the overturn window shifting. Trump is old. He will either die or retire soon. Those replacing him will be more in line with us (I know what those aids and future elite are reading). By the grace of God, Trump bought us time for realignment without mass shedding of blood, and his exit will inevitability open the door for those of our persuasion and close it to our enemies. Trump is the modern Lot who interceded on our behalf, but has exceeded in convinced God to give us both a chance and time, but potentially like Lot, is not the return of the King.

I believe in Christ/Gnon, I believe in the return of belief in Christ, I believe redemption without mass graves. I believe Jim, DH, and many others here are wrong to believe in the worst case. I have personally witnessed a return to the faith among those who matter, those of manly youthful vitality. Sin among the old regime elite has brought more sin which has brought sickly frailty and death. Our enemies will be in walkers and mobility scooters and mental health facilities. Conquest will be swift and victorious.

alf says:

Always these eternal babysteps.

‘The left committed mass fraud during our presidential election. Let us watch more closely next time and surely things will turn out fine.’

‘They tried to murder our presidential candidate. That’s in bad taste but surely we can still cooperate and make deals with them.’

Dumb shit.

That said, probably best not to overanalyze every step. For a blog that promotes itself as not getting too much into current events, a great deal of the debate has recently been about current events.

Anon says:

“For a blog that promotes itself as not getting too much into current events, a great deal of the debate has recently been about current events.”

We are living history right know, imagine couple of roman discuss Caesar and Augustus before Caesar

alf says:

Caesar crossed the rubicon. It remains to be seen if Trump crosses the rubicon. The hour is getting late.

Jim says:

Not late yet. He got another four year extension. Caesar crossed the Rubicon after condemned to death in absentia.

Current left wing program is to resist the deportations. If Trump yields to resistance, we are toast, for he will then yield on everything. His Attorney General looks mighty wobbly on shutting down lawfare against the right. The left is not going to yield on that either.

Every illegal is given a free phone. Track the phones, he can round them all up. If he does not yield on everything, we get likely get, and win, Civil War 2.0. If he makes a stand on anything, likely the Rubicon will come to him.

The America empire’s main problem is a bloated and rapidly expanding elite of amazingly useless idiots. Boeing cannot make planes and Jaguar cannot make cars because of the numerous high power jobs they have created for the likes of Biden’s secretary of luggage stealing. Anything that checks the bloat is likely to lead to considerable drama.

Consider Musk’s plan to repeal by executive order regulations that exceed the authority granted by Congress (which is most of them) and then downsize the departments proportionately. Sounds very feeble. But the if implemented, the reaction will be apocalyptic. The left have been overreaching. They will continue to overreach.

alf says:

A common pattern in all restorations is men with guns outranking men in robes. Needs to court the military.

I suppose that using the military to deport illegal aliens is a great first step. We shall see, we shall see…

Pax Imperialis says:

>Jaguar cannot make cars

Of course, why would a gay fashion company make cars?🙃
https://x.com/Jaguar/status/1858800846646948155

Ryan says:

A surprisingly based video about masculine fiction was recommended randomly by youtube:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=da3NiVM3IcQ

The guys seem aware of at least parts of evolutionary game theory, and that the indo-europeans genocided the previous european men and took their women. An interest in history tends to make one more realist from what I’ve seen. They are Conan fans obviously.
Novels capturing the masculine spirit are one way to reignite the flame of masculine vitalism that preceeds an energetic new culture. Collapse and the return of violent conditions providing a proving ground and a prize for the most courageous and capable.

Other than Conan, what are some recommendations from you all?

One recent pick from me is Dungeon Crawler Carl, which is about everyman forced into a deadly gameshow run by a psychotic AI, together with millions of random humans. The first books are about overcoming normalcy bias and doing whatever it takes to survive, including finding good allies. Later on it’s about tearing down the system and people in power who allow the whole thing to happen on different planets. The series is very violent, very dark and very funny in places. It features many highly creative and unrestrained acts of warfare and terrorism. The author doesn’t pull any punches and it’s very hard to predict what will happen.

Jim says:

Based? On Youtube?

So I briefly watched part of the video and read the transcript in full. Not based. He says men and women are different, and mentions some differences, but neglects to mention the differences that really matter.

On Trump being elected, they clearly turned down the censorship on the Youtube algorithm. But still has a long way to go.

Neurotoxin says:

This blog frequently mentions “demons literal or metaphorical.” I’m drafting a post about metaphorical demons as failure modes and I’ve noticed the mentioning of “failure modes” in recent comments here, e.g. by DH. Newbies to this line of thought could profit by reading Scott Alexander’s Meditations on Moloch, which discusses some collective action demons/failure modes. (It doesn’t cover individual demons/failure modes like drug addiction or contra-reproductive sexual perversions.) There are no new insights for those already familiar with the basics of collective action problems – prisoner’s dilemmas, commons tragedies, etc. – but it’s probably a good intro for those who haven’t encountered such ideas before.

(At least down to the sentence “Like all good mystical experiences, it happened in Vegas.”)

To put it briefly: “Cooperation is hard,” as we say around here. What are some of the reasons for that? It’s not hard in the sense that bench-pressing (big number) is hard. It’s a different kind of hard.

Caveat lector: Scott Alexander, who is definitely not one of us, is the Slate Star Codex guy. That blog is no longer active, having been replaced by Astral Codex Ten, but SSC is still live. Alexander is/was part of the “Less Wrong” “rationalist” community, a group of people that started out trying to develop the science of rationality and got taken over by asshole leftists and skin-suited. Jim predicted that Alexander, who tried to supplicate to the leftists, would be eaten by them, and then that actually happened. Jim, you fucking maniac, how do you do that? Anyway, the author is not A Reliable, but that essay is a good intro for people who aren’t familiar with the basic ideas of collective failure modes.

Hesiod says:

Dang, Alexander’s essay turns into some grade-A Gnosticism towards the end. He’s got a Hippy Jesus named Elua too. I wonder how much his beliefs have changed if at all since writing this 10 years ago.

Looking forward to your work, Neuro.

Jim says:

Entertainingly “Harris for President” and “The Satanic Convention” appear to be substantially overlapping or intertwined organisations. They both required that applicants be fully up to date on Covid Boosters. This could be just them both dwelling in the same bubble, rather than anything institutional.

We should not be surprised to find literal demon worshippers intertwined with metaphorical demon worshippers.

Hesiod says:

Even a cursory search on SatanCon as it’s often abbreviated turns up a cornucopia of DEI jargon. Such a siren song to the faithful. “Ye shall be as gods,” as the serpent tempted Eve. Alexander contends it’s the acme of hubris to not take a bite.

Neurotoxin says:

Thx, hopefully I’ll get it done this weekend.

anonymous mouse says:

Today Trump announced Scott Bessent as his pick for Treasury Secretary. Bessent worked for Soros Fund Management between 1991 and 2000 and again as chief investment officer between 2011 and 2015. Also he’s married to a man.

It’s just obvious at this point that right-wing Trump supporters just will not get any of the things they voted for. MAGA 2024 is the biggest scam in American history.

Hesiod says:

Meanwhile, the Texas education board voted to bring The Holy Bible back into the school curriculum. No need to doomfag just yet.

Jim says:

The left is in severe disarray. The leftmost are the woke, and are engaging in reign of terror against the rest of the left, which has predictably come down with a severe case of Stockholm syndrome. But the woke suffer from severe administrative incapacity. They have the power to do stuff, but not the competence, nor even the attention span. Plus, severely detached from reality. Everything they control, be it an aircraft carrier, Boeing, or Dysney, gets run into the ground. Being has burned all its corporate social capital, so is finding it hard to build planes, and hard to maintain existing planes. Suddenly there is a world wide new plane shortage, as new planes are just not rolling off the assembly lines any more. This, of course, has led to massive capital burn with no end in sight. They have pivoted to a new business plan where they give up building anything, and live entirely on corrupt payouts by the government. No end of businesses have adopted this business plan. It is America’s new growth industry. Similarly, Jaguar is not currently making any Jaguars, hence their very strange new advertisement. Jaguar theoretically intends to restart building and selling cars some indefinite time in the future, but their plans are nebulous, incoherent, and silly. It is like Mao’s plan for the Great Leap foward. Mao failed to grasp that making steel is hard, and Jaguar fails to grasp that making a car is hard. If deplorables can do it, how hard can it be?

My prediction that Linux is a dead man walking is now rolling ahead full steam.

The left, like the monasteries in Henry the eighth’s England, are sitting on an enormous pile of loot. Due excessive elite production, they cannot help but demand every increasing amounts of loot, and will probably fight a civil war if the request is denied. Trump thinks he can compromise, he is after all the great deal maker. He is, of course, mistaken. The left is not agreement capable. It is now clear his plans will crash against the total inability of the left to compromise. However, this time around, he will not be quite as blindsided as he was last time.

He has some terrifyingly evil and dangerous people in his cabinet — for example his latest Attorney General pick is likely to continue lawfare against the right. But even the worst of them is considerably better than last time around, and he also has some very good people in his cabinet, notably Tulsi Gabbard. The spy agencies are the relatively competent core of the left’s administrative apparatus. Take them out, the left goes away. It has lost fedgov. Still has the stategov in the big blue megalopoli, which gives them a power base for Civil War 2.0.

A perhaps optimistic interpretation of what he is doing is that it is similar to Hitler’s deal. Hitler won the election but was not at first allowed to form a government. So he gave everything away except the cops, and it turned out that once he had the cops, nothing else mattered.

Jaguar’s new advertisement says: “We have forgotten about cars, to focus on pronouns, and our customers should forget about cars and enjoy our wonderful new pronouns.”

Karl says:

“..he also has some very good people in his cabinet, notably Tulsi Gabbard.”

Tulsi Gabbard is a woman. Even if she is a very good woman, why do you think that she will be able to do what is necessary? Woman have rarely been competent leaders.

Jim says:

And indeed she has never had any experience in leading anyone, and is probably not very good at it. But she is a good person, and knows evil when she sees it. She does not have to get stuff done. She has to stop stuff from being done.

DH says:

Almost all civilized or semi-civilized countries in the world are currently managed by leftist priesthoods, most of which are but branches of the leftist priesthood we call Harvard – that is the “brain.” Presumably, most peoples of the world can produce more virtuous priesthoods or more wicked priesthoods, and what we see is that in 2024 they are ruled by priesthoods tending towards wicked. The human race has been abducted by an evil priesthood, basically. And while leftism may be “organic” to all societies, the center of world leftism at the moment is ‘Murica. That is why, even if one is not an American and is as far away from power as possible, one must be extremely interested in “American politics.” That’s where the future of the human race will be determined. No one in Europe can save civilization from the evil priesthood, no one else in the Anglosphere, no one in South America or anywhere in Asia. Putin, well, maybe, but I wouldn’t count on it. Ultimately, the fate of civilization, at least the Western one, depends on what Real Americans do with the spiritual kakistocracy ruling America. If the central, strongest leftist priesthood is defeated, it will then be possible to defeat all the other, smaller leftist priesthoods around the world. That is why Regime Change in America is so necessary. Here’s my chief disagreement with Moldbug: he does not think that America is ruled by a kakistocracy. He has too rosy a view of the Blue Tribe. But they have certainly become a kakistocracy, both in America and globally, and as such it is urgent to replace them, which has to begin with the fall of Harvard. You cannot “convert” a kakistocracy to a virtuous elite; shitlibs are not likely to become “based” (or even just sane) anytime soon. And we know what the Bible says about bad trees that cannot produce good fruit.

DH says:

Virtue signaling, also known as conformism, is natural to most people. Virtue signaling is rooted in (evolutionarily adaptive) ego – people naturally seek to make themselves look greater, including “morally greater,” than what they really are, to impress the rest of the tribe. Where it goes maladaptive for the individual and for society is when — generally under a hostile, satanic priesthood — it socially selects for the “status maximizer” (to use Spandrell’s term), the holier-than-thou person who is all signaling, and no virtue. Aka, the leftist. That is one reason why all our societies, or at least the officially unofficial priesthoods of our societies, became kakistocracies.

That phenotype, which is likely an extreme version of something less antisocial, needs to be entirely removed.

DH says:

Women are often more into virtue signaling than into actual virtue, and they also tend to fall for and be hypnotized by virtue signalers and their pious pious bulls**t (at least leftists used to be popular with women due to high status, or so was their reputation, but I’m not even sure what’s going on today), so emancipation of women gives rise to the slick slithery status-maximizers in that manner too.

Jehu says:

Actual virtue is hard, and generally includes not signaling about itself. No surprise then that women go for the signal rather than the genuine article.

DH says:

“Which yet my soul seeketh, but I find not: one man among a thousand have I found; but a woman among all those have I not found.” – Ecclesiastes 7:28

Jim says:

Good women are made not born. A husband backed by God can accomplish a great deal. But even if one does one’s best, the best of women will still shit test you. You have to do a certain amount of mate guarding for her to feel securely owned. But if she feels securely owned, and she feels that if she misbehaved you might well kill her and/or her lover, she will be good. Female psychology is very different from that of men. A woman will find this very comfortable and calming, while a man in an analogous situation would find it disturbing, or at least irritating. Women love a man who might well harm them.

DH says:

The ancients were vehemently trying to warn us about the true nature of women underneath the virtuous facade (today most women no longer even bother with the virtuous facade), but the satanic priesthood that rules the world told us that to even think about the subject is “misogynist oppression.” To talk about Leftism without mentioning the elephant in the room, which is the WP, as some like to do, is to dance around the truth at best and to surrender to Harvard’s egregore at worst. One might respond, “But that means that 99% of society is memetically pwned!” – well, it is what it is. In fact, I don’t think it’s 99%; I think the support for restoration of coverture among younger men is great, at least around 30%, although they don’t necessarily know which words to use (and which weltanschauung to manifest) to express that sentiment. They will not usually explicitly tell you that they want to abolish feminism, but they obviously do. But let’s not get excessively whitepilled – most of society is still heavily mememtically pwned, and the evil priesthood is still in power.

Neurotoxin says:

That is why, even if one is not an American and is as far away from power as possible, one must be extremely interested in “American politics.” That’s where the future of the human race will be determined.

Disagree. The US is done as a world power. It can’t even stop Yemen from shutting down a shipping lane in the face of its Almighty Navy(TM). The Harvard religion, because it is manifestly insane, requires support by overwhelming force. No one will obey “Allow trannies in your girls’ bathrooms and infinite immigration” unless that order is backed up by irresistible physical violence. The US’s capacity for physical violence is now resistible. Even more importantly, everyone can see that it’s resistible.

DH says:

You are correct about the decline of hard power. Harvard still has plenty of soft power, though, and it will continue being a problem as long as the rest of the Occident is under GAE occupation.

Among other means, the satanic priesthood perpetuates itself through Prussian education and through academia, both of which are leftism-factories, the former by design, the latter through Harvard’s memetic capture (I don’t think it’s “organic” for the intellectual classes of all peoples to be leftists). So naturally most people, particularly those who still identify with the cultural hegemony of the Blue Tribe, are imbued with deep, nasty crimestop that is preventing them from seeing the entire picture. These are generations upon generations of heavy brainwashing that begins when you are 6 (or earlier) and continues until you are 21 (or later). I say there is no victory until the Blue Tribe is no longer in power in America. They might not have started out as a kakistocracy, but they have clearly become a kakistocracy. Kamala is a kakistocract par excellence, and the rest of them are about on the same level. USG has the Mandate of Hell, rather than of Heaven, and at least Europe and the Anglosphere, which are no more competent than USG, are dominated by the American Brahmin class via popular culture and well-funded “NGOs,” in other words through soft power.

To have a virtuous elite, and to keep it virtuous, need the elite to possess a patriarchal memeplex. Can you imagine the shitlibs, either the American strain or any other type of shitlib — that’s the phenotype that currently controls mainstream culture in all of the West — adopting a patriarchal memeplex? They would rather die, and indeed, they should die.

Pax Imperialis says:

>These are generations upon generations of heavy brainwashing that begins when you are 6 (or earlier) and continues until you are 21 (or later).

I know I’m beating a very dead horse. The majority of those people are redeemable and they will repent when there is a strong and virtuous king. There is no reason to mass kill these people post-victory.

Jim says:

The military weakness of the US will not result in the collapse of soft power. A counter priesthood protected by a Sovereign, as Luther was protected, is needed.

Military weakness does however mean that some sovereign somewhere can protect a counter priesthood.

Soft power is also deeply inserted into society, and has to be forcibly ripped out. A dissolution of the monasteries is required. This has to be preceded by an expose of the wickedness, corruption, decadence, and hypocrisy of the monasteries, or else it will just be seen as inter elite grab for power and loot, and will unavoidably become just another inter elite grab for power and loot.

A good start would be expose peer review for what it is. Most experimental data is fraudulent, because it is a lot easier to make the publish or perish publication quota that way. Fraud when detected goes unpunished, and those who expose it get punished. At the same time, should one be so foolish as to actually do the experiment or observation, you will likely get results that the differ from “the science” and thus your work will be unpublishable.

Henry the eighth, in order to dissolve the monasteries, sent out a research team to dig up what was actually happening, and once he had sufficient wagonloads of dirt, dissolved them. His team found dirt on all the monasteries, and all but one of the nunneries, and the one nunnery on which they found little dirt was not dissolved.

Of course Henry did not dissolve them because of the dirt. He dissolved them because they had power and money, he wanted it, and they were hostile to him. But it was politically necessary to dig up the dirt, and use it to bury them.

RFK Junior plans to do some digging. I hope that the dirt that he finds is in due course used to do some burying.

Henry the eighth was far from being a good Christian. But he dissolved the monasteries in faithful application of the spirit of Christian law, and used good Christians to do it.

Neurotoxin says:

Jim: “A dissolution of the monasteries is required.”

Domestically, of course. Harvard delenda est.

But (this is replying to both Jim and DH) I was speaking of the US Empire. Per Jim above, US weakness allows other competing religions to arise. Precisely.

Rod says:

This Bessent homo has 2 children, that pedofag BootyGig does too. Gays shouldn’t be allowed to have children, all it does is confuse the kids, get them diddled, and cause more gay, and more gay problems, in the future. BootyGig’s “children” are literally babies, pray for them.

Some questionable choices here…

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_cabinet_of_Donald_Trump
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_appointments_by_Donald_Trump_in_his_second_term
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_presidency_of_Donald_Trump

Rod says:

https://www.statista.com/chart/33552/number-of-children-adopted-in-the-us-from-abroad/

Apparently the star-studded virtue signalling for official baby raping has gone down lately. Now they just grab the ones their Pols illegally Imported for them off the streets.

Protip: Once you stop shipping boats full of food and money to them, their populations will naturally stop the resource wrecking excess breeding, and will redevelop their own internally balanced support structures, and be Kangz again. Everyone will be just fine like they always were before your “help” came along.

Protip2: Now, go get a wife, impregnate her, or adopt from your own kind and lands.

Humungus says:

Greetings,

Humungus is in favor of conserving precious gasoline to run in his fuel injected V8 war vehicles. Therefore, migrants must migrate back on foot the same way they got here.

Dan says:

Unfortunately for you, your whizbang electrojected sparkomatic puter-havin “war vehicles” wont withstand the snapcracklepop of the coming EM war. And you aint getting no puter parts when Dorman’s chinko supply chain, and AZ/NY/CA/WA/OH-US all get vaporizated. Maybe if you raid some old SouthAmerican/Mexican warehouse, but since you’re not there, the only way you’ll get there is paying the migrants to be your travel guides. I suggest chickens and bullets instead, at least you can make biodiesel from the fat, which also comes freely attached to these things they called humans in the West, those immobile blobs will be among first to unsurvival.

Humungus says:

Humungus has been working on a solution to solve the EMP problem. This factor has not gone unnoticed. Rest assured that Humungus will be on the highway with a fat tank of gas three days after the fall going at high speed.

Jim says:

The original Mad Max movie did not assume nuclear war. Rather the state declined to the point where the incohesive and corrupt police force and collapsing justice system was incapable of dealing with cohesive, competent, and brutal criminal gangs, and cops like Max, who were acting as if normality was still in effect resigned, because being a cop was dangerous, and wrongdoers unlikely to be punished, at least through due process of a legal system that had ceased to function, with the result that the state disappeared. Max being the last functional front line element of the state in that small town.

The quarrelling remnant of the police force is not particularly interested in doing any policing, nor particularly competent to do any policing.

The gang inflicts fatal or near fatal injuries on Max’s wife and child, and the hospital system is functioning about as well as the police and justice system (we don’t see anyone get any useful medical care) whereupon Max becomes Mad Max, and kills the wrongdoers (whom the police and dysfunctional justice system were unlikely to punish, even if he brought them all in in handcuffs).

So, nuclear bombs were kind of irrelevant to the destruction of a civilisation that was already destroying itself.

In subsequent movies the “bad guys” are increasingly the force maintaining islands of order, markets, and technology, and are thus what reaction would regard as the good guys, while Mad Max, the hero, is a madman, a very sympathetic madman, destroying order, markets, and technology.

The first Mad Max movie starts off irritatingly slowly and confusingly, because we cannot make much sense out of the activities of the cops. Eventually we realise that the the reason that the activities of the cops do not seem to make sense is is because they do not in fact make sense.

Humungus says:

Yes, we see the old order crumbling around us even now. Police and military are the prosecutorial arm of the old system. When it is gone, there will be confusion and a power vacuum. Then will be the time for Humungus to restore order. That requires mobility and power.

Keep your vehicles protected from what is to come. Shielding, surge protection, spare parts. It can come at any time now. Humungus wants you strong and ready. Fear is for the weak. Fear is our ally.

Jim says:

EM can be shielded. Most modern devices have good shields. The earth had its much anticipated second Carrington event, and this time nothing happened, because everyone upped their shielding.

The metal in a car acts like a faraday cage If one has surge protectors between all electrical systems and the faraday cage, one will be fine.

The emp of a nuclear war is likely to take out the electrical grid. But if the antennae on your car are surge protected, you should be OK.

There were three tests of nuclear emp. They took out grids, but not vehicles. Theoretically the grid is now supposed to be hardened against emp. I doubt that it is, but it is not very difficult to harden it.

In the 1960s, everyone introduced a policy of hardening their grids against nuclear emp. Did they actually do it?

Well, we recently had the long predicted second Carrington event, which was widely expected to take out grids world wide. Nothing happened. So looks like they actually did harden the grid. It is a lot easier to harden a car than a grid.

Rod says:

https://amgreatness.com/2024/12/23/fixing-the-biden-border/
No one seems to know what Biden thinks he’s atoning for.
Meanwhile, the LeftDems are trying to “deport” Musk.

Sure, fix your inbound borders, but be sure you leave ways for yourselves to flee and get *OUT*, because history proves that most who need to leave won’t have the luxury of time, docs, or money.

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