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A new space race

Russia and China are talking about putting a permanent manned base on the moon, which is obviously a response to NASA talking about putting a permanent manned base on the moon.

NASA has Musk’s rockets, but Musk is not really interested in a moon base, because insufficient volatiles on the moon for a self sustaining colony. All he is going to do is ship NASA’s stuff to the moon, and it is completely obvious that NASA lacks the technological capability to build a permanent moonbase, even if the shipping is free.

Unfortunately, our regime is incapable of hearing what Russia and China are saying, or of comprehending anything they say, which absolute self isolation is likely to lead to war sooner or later.

Obviously a permanent moonbase is going to need a nuclear power plant, because the fourteen day lunar nights are dark and cold. I don’t think anyone at NASA realises this, or is capable of realising it, hence they interpreted Russian outline plans for the base as a plan to nuke America’s satellites in orbit.

If you cannot talk to people, you are going to have to kill them, or they are going to have to kill you.

A new space race would be a great alternative to war. You win, you gain soft power, and the other guy loses soft power, without the risks involved in obtaining soft power by killing people. The USG has become increasingly reliant on hard power to provide soft power, as for example bombing Serbia, flattening Libya, and attempting the genocide the Alawites in Syria. This is dangerous, and apt to explode in one’s face. The current red sea crisis is one such explosion, and likely there will be nastier ones sooner or later. The USG should have established normal relations with the Houthis long ago, but that is another group they are unable to hear. If bombing the Houthis did not work before they started blocking a key trade route to Global American Empire aligned ships, why would you think it was going to work after they started blocking a key trade route to Global American Empire aligned ships?

War, it is said, is politics by other means. But the US is incapable of engaging international politics by normal political means, which is why the Global American Empire can no longer ship stuff through the Red Sea and remains unaware that the starter’s gun has been fired on another race to the moon.

The unipolar moment was the USG possessing enormous and overwhelming soft power. It still has a great deal of soft power. China and Russia want that power and are going after it, and the USG is incapable of noticing what is going on.

138 comments A new space race

Mister Grumpus says:

This pattern is domestic also. Turn on the cable news channels or open a city newspaper. They’re from another planet, from which the planet where I live simply doesn’t exist.

alf says:

Sometimes outside forces make me watch tv, and dear lord the garbage just spews forth and forth. I’m so far gone I can’t imagine people voluntary paying for that, let alone watch it.

Cloudswrest says:

This is a common experience among people who don’t habitually watch TV, or haven’t watched it in awhile. When they do subsequently see TV the reaction is, at best, “This is unwatchable drivel!” (Ow, My Balls!), or more usually, “This is crude, vulgar attempt at seditious manipulation of the viewer.”

Hesiod says:

While recently visiting a relative, I got to see several hours of ESPN, mercifully mostly muted. The number of mystery meat tranny Jesus commercials astounded. The “go, and sin no more” portion of John 8:11 was conspicuously absent.

jim says:

Listening to the USG ambassador is like listening to your television. Speaking to the USG ambassador is like speaking back to your television. Which is why GAE aligned shipping can no longer make it through the Red Sea.

Mayflower Sperg says:

TV has always been garbage, but it used to be entertaining garbage, mental junk food. Now it’s just putrid, rancid filth.

jim says:

Russians, of course, have the same experience, which is why the Russians received Tucker like a rock star, and Putin treated him like a world power.

Trump is great at interacting with world leaders and normal people, but the people in power, in particular the people in the State Department and American ambassadors are like the shills — you just cannot hold a conversation with shills — they refuse to hear or understand what you are saying, refuse to hear what you said, and refuse to see what is in front of their eyes. They are unresponsive. And the USG and its official media are similarly unresponsive.

The never ending noise on whether a tower seven fell straight down like a demolition, or fell sideways into the square to the south of it, towards the side that was on fire and damaged by shrapnel from the plane, and whether the wreckage of a commercial airliner was strewn around the pentagon, exemplifies the latter.

When the Russians attempt to hold a conversation with American Ambassador or USG official media, they suffer a similar experience.

Big Brutha says:

There’s a reason for this. The reason is that in contrast with the past and a result of the speed of communication through email, ambassadors went from being trusted emissaries of a president’s will with wide discretion to make decisions to messenger boys who have to deliver, in many cases literal rote talking points to other nations’ leaders.

Additionally, since the majority are “career diplomats” if they want to advance to the next rung, they know they had best not piss off the bureaucracy that they are creatures of. That means conformity to what the foreign policy/national security blob tells them is good even if it is not just patently stupid and out of touch but actively destructive of real U.S.soft or hard power. Also, to get to be a career ambassador in the first place means you’ve already been filtered for your willingness to do this and not rock the boat. By the time they have gone through their 10,000th meeting on some stupid topic with their overseers they have learned to stop thinking about it individually and just mouth what they know the blob wants to hear them mouth anyway.

The political appointees do not have the excuse of it effecting their future advancement in quite the same way but even the political ambassadors have one main ambition: leave a legacy in the country to which they are assigned. But the trick with that is that no legacy is a legacy if the bureaucrats do not deem it one. A legacy, therefore, consists of advancing a policy created by D.C. and seeing it stick. Which means the same process is at play. Undertaken this way a political appointee may be able to find lucrative jobs afterwards on a speaking circuit if he is very “good” at doing this or more likely in some Beltway-adjacent consultancy or think tank. Some go “native” and start the same consultancy process later with the country they were assigned to but that is frowned upon by the blob and seen as gauche. It can be quite lucrative though.

The days of ambassadors as independent decision makers like ship captains in the days of sail are long gone.

jim says:

The purpose of an ambassador is to see the location from the ground, to get drunk with members of alien elite, to know what people are really thinking, how they will react from the gut, to anticipate their likely conduct and reactions. And if there are crimethoughts floating around in the environment to which he is sent, the American ambassador is forbidden to accomplish this.

The American ambassador is forbidden accomplish this purpose, forbidden to know what the outgroup is thinking even if an important member of the outgroup grabs him by the collar and yells what they are thinking at him — as is apt to happen.

Big Brutha says:

They are allowed to know. They are not supposed to let on that they know. The politically astute ones (the creatures of the system) tend to avoid communicating to Washington the gap between what Washington expects and reality. If Washington expects a certain foreign leader to be inimical to U.S. policy they can communicate that but there are limits on communicating realistic assessments from “friends” which contradict Washington’s own views. They have to be couched just so in order to keep the blob from reacting due to cognitive dissonance or outrage. Usually, where a gap is communicated or pointed out, the blob blows it off as being “politicized” or “out of touch.” Often the ambassador who made such a faux pas as to pierce the veil of deliberate ignorance is apprised of his mistake.

someDude says:

If allowed to know, but not supposed to let on that they know, then why bother knowing it all? It takes more effort to know than not to know. If knowing offers no advantages to the person or career of the diplomat, then the diplomat who does not know, does not want to know, cannot know has the edge!

And that;s the sort of diplomats who will crowd out the intelligent ones

jim says:

> They are allowed to know. They are not supposed to let on that they know.

If they were allowed to know, they would give the foreign dignitary lecturing them non verbal confirmation that they received the message. Everyone over the entire world is running into the same stone wall of obstinate blindness and deafness you and I am.

skippy says:

Agreed. Even in the age of the internet, even just traveling to another country gives a very different impression of its reality, let alone mastering its language, and it will never be practicable for a working head of state even to frequently briefly visit all significant countries. The collapse in trust in ambassadors is facilitated by communications, but truly *caused* by the collapse in discretionary authority at all levels and the subordination of all government functions to propaganda downstream of the prog religion. The State Department that has no real ambassadors is the same State Department that collectively deluded it was afflicted by the Havana Syndrome, which is definitely not a consequence of improved smarts and tech.

Mister Grumpus says:

I remember during the Trump 2016 campaign. They did those “listening sessions”.
Remember those?

Trump would visit some people at their workplace, like a school or a factory or wherever, and they’d set up some folding tables, and Trump would listen to each one say what he wanted to say, on camera.

The film was just him sitting there and listening to them. That was it. Now I get it.

Mister Grumpus says:

Some African government minister once said:

“When China comes, we get a hospital. When America comes, we get a lecture.”

Pretty basic, really.

Big Brutha says:

This is more true than most people can imagine. The amount of effort and money that USG spends trying to bring other countries around to supporting its degenerate social agenda is hard to fathom.

someDude says:

Not hard to fathom at all. Ideological fanatics who know deep down that they are imposters have to force their will on everyone else. Thats how they maintain their very shaky sense of sanity. The current believer-Elite will commit suicide in droves if the power to force their ideology on others is taken away from them

Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

The first reaction of someone stuck in a con is often ironically to defend their conmen, before anything else. This is especially true of things that involve a significant investment of time and energy, things that you have invested part of your identity into. The idea that the road you have taken in life was a detour at best shivs with the pain of despair.

One can see these dynamics in microcosm all the time in discourses around combatives; indeed, on account of particulars of ‘the thing itself’ – one of few spheres with properties of both being highly complex, and at the same rate the ease and instanteanity with which things may be put to the test, and also the great degrees of visceral emotional engagement – they can be seen more emphatically easily in it than almost anywhere else in life.

There used to be a huge market for EMA mcdojos that made bank on selling the fantasy of being Bruce Lee before vale tudo competitions started becoming popular in the 90’s. Wushu shilling always started with ‘our secret teachings will let you be Bruce Lee who can beat up anyone’ – and always ended with ‘okay, our secret teachings won’t let you beat up anyone… but that’s because *noones* teachings will let you beat up anyone, all is vanity’. The final coping strategy of the narcicisstic shitter who doesn’t know shit about shit, is to flatter themselves by imagining everyone else is a shitter too.

Such hustles never disappear completely though. It’s a form of natural selection you might even say. Hucksters are disproportionately attracted to obscure martial larps not in spite of the fact that they are less popular, but because they are. Much easier to claim special knowledge when there’s noone else around capable enough to call your bluffs. Martial arts communities have always been lousy with charlatanism, and that charlatanism tends to have much greater penetration into popular consciousness, such that even people without any contact with fighting at all absorb charlatan bromides about fighting by osmosis. Hence the recurrent persistence of its marketability.

Noone wants to live in a world where they have been sold a bill of goods; so better for all the choices to lack substantial matter in the end, than for one’s own particular choice to have lacked matter in the end.

It is painful to think that one’s effort amounted to a hill of beans in the final tally. It is painful to think that one was made a sucker.

The ‘none of this shit matters, you efforts are futile’ attitude is sour grapes for inability to succeed in the ‘none of this shit that matters’; they wanted to be Bruce Lee, but when tested mano-y-mano, find themselves failing miserably; and in typically solipsistic fashion, rather than acknowledge problems and adjust fire to attain greater success, the kinds of persons who fall into this kind of thinking, instead react by rejecting the whole ‘world’ itself. They cope with the failure of their ideas to bring success against their neighbor in the endeavor by condemning the endeavor. “It is no sin of mine, but the sin of creation”. They dreamed of being Bruce Lee, and cannot cope with the reality that they are Wimp Lo, so reality itself must be shifted to fit their self-perception. The gnostic impulse rears its head once again.

Karl says:

Western governments have so often voiced technologically ambitious plans they can’t execute that I don’t take them serious. Don’t know much about how reliably Russian and Chinese government execute such plans.

Anyway, even if the Russians and Chinese are seriously working on a permanent base on the moon, I don’t see how this could lead to a new space race as the GAE lacks the technical means to even enter such a race in any way beyond hiring hordes of Shaniquas to work on a project that will never produce anything but costs and press releases.

jim says:

Russia has been successfully executing a pile of high tech plans. China, not so much, usually falling seriously short and way behind schedule, but they tend to get where they are going eventually.

But China now has a big problem, in that Xi has been trying to make China less capitalist, which has now reached the point where capitalists are running away and those that cannot run away are now focused on wealth preservation, not wealth creation. If no Musk, no moonbase.

Charlie says:

Lots of great points here!

The U.S. is incapable of listening to others, and is erratic and ineffective and worse as a result.

And the U.S. history of using hard power to try to get/enforce soft power was never the best approach and is proving less and less effective over time as a) the use of hard power causes resentment and blowback; b) our hard power has become visibly less effective; and c) our competitors for soft power have been pursuing it softly and that has been well-received by “the Global South.” The U.S. doesn’t seem to realize how far down the path of losing relative soft power we’ve already gone.

Zorost says:

The problem is it won’t be a race. China and Russia will achieve their goals, whatever they are, and the US will try to turn it all into a story to push their agenda. Instead of trying to get a functional moon base, they’ll write stories about how brave tranny mulatoes overcame hardship to do everything the right way, and it was only those dirty russians/ chinese/ white supremacist incels that caused all the rockets to explode shortly after launch.

bob sykes says:

The particular project that has so exercised our Congress and neocons is called “Zeus.” It is actually a nuclear powered space tug that is intended to transfer stuff from Earth orbit to Moon orbit. It would be a necessary component of the Moon Base planned by the Russians and Chinese.

They will likely also build a fairly large space station in Earth orbit, or maybe just expand the existing Chinese station, which is already the size of three or more school buses or semi-trailers.

Fed Shill says:

Why do women misbehave?

5 They are feral, blindly following ancient instincts from prehistoric times, which instincts tell them to cruise for rape by alpha male Chads, and to resist kicking-and-screaming all attempts to restrain them from pursuing alpha male Chads. Stable monogamy has always been a way to allow each man to own a woman so each man can start a family and raise a future generation for civilization’s survival.

Whatever.

Why do women go a whoring is a better question. Because they like nigger dick and virtue signaling to subversive kikes.

So, I’m a fed, big deal. You think a fed can’t get away with writing this. Surprise!

jim says:

We shall see. Your email is now white listed, on the assumption that you are not in fact a fed shill, or you are a fed shill, but will not be able to use this email address and username when working in your FBI office.

jim says:

Women do indeed like whoring. If you are in a location where women are emancipated, and you open tinder, there is a flood. If unemancipated, tinder says no one around. When men have the power, we lock women in harems, if women have the power, they hang out in whorehouses, such as college dorms. But they really loath mudsharking. Female sexual behaviour is driven by four million year old ancient imperatives, not by the current social environment.

However, because female sexual preference is overwhelmingly driven by preselection and status (as female pussies see status, which is quite different from how men see status and the social order attempts to award status), they project this onto men, and therefore attempt to elevate their own status by socially prescribed (prescribed by a hostile and predominantly Jewish minority) sexual activity, such as mudsharking and transexualizing. Which activities they do not actually like, and such activities are apt to drive them insane. Whoring they like, lesbian sexual activity they like, interspecies sexual activity they like. Just about everything they like, women are pansexual. But the pansexuality seems to stop short of what the authorities want.

Fidelis says:

I feel like you’re painting with too broad a brush here. Women when taken generally like whoring as much as men taken generally like being players; right up until it destroys their soul. Then they break down psychologically and attempt to cope by whoring more, or destroy themselves with any number of different outlets, or both. No one is winning with the current state of affairs, and rhetorically suggesting that this is female choice is sending a message I don’t believe that you intend. It’s female choice only so far as there is no other option available. Otherwise you wouldn’t have seen them wandering into Afghanistan and former ISIS territory looking to be coerced into marriage, they would stay in the whorehouse.

From the surveys on younger zoomers, perhaps not wholly accurate but likely to be pointing at the trend correctly enough, more and more young girls are dropping out just as the young men did in the millenial generation. This fits with what I can observe, so I don’t believe it’s so falsified as to be useless. I don’t think this trend is merely holding out for their 1/100 guy, I think they saw their predecessors fail to keep their 1/100 guy, and quit in despair. Both sexes are searching for working marriage in vain, and being normies don’t realize that’s what they’re searching for.

jim says:

Miss fifteen in thirty is looking for a stable monogamous relationship with mister one in thirty and, surprise surprise, does not get it. She gets pumped and dumped.

When miss fifteen in thirty finds herself shacked up with mister fifteen in thirty, she resents it, resents him, and wants to keep her options open. So because she is keeping her options open, mister fifteen in thirty uses her as preselection pivot to get some more pussy. So she loses out on mister fifteen in thirty, but scarcely notices because she got a one am booty call from mister one in thirty. I see women hitting the wall, getting a great opportunity to settle down with a good man, and rather than thinking “How can I hang on to this great catch in my last moments of hotness?”, want to preserve options for moving out, just in case the guy who gave them a midnight booty call a year ago might call her back and ask her to move in.

There was this chick who stashed her stuff in my garage, supposedly only as a brief and temporary measure, time passed, and I eventually learned that she was shacked up with a great guy, way better than she deserved, way better than I expected her to get, so I told him to collect her stuff which had been crapping up my garage for far longer than I expected. She was not happy about this, because keeping her stuff in my garage kept everything temporary and capable of ending quickly, and she liked it that way. She intended that that stuff should stay in my garage till she got to move in with mister one in thirty, which she expected to happen any day now.

The reason that junk stayed in my garage for so long is that she was permanently expecting to very soon move it into mister one in thirty’s place.

women get lots of opportunities to form the traditional relationship – the demand for women willing to perform this role vastly exceeds supply. And I see women in good relationships dynamiting them with gay abandon in the utterly unrealistic expectation that they are going to move on to some better relationship with a better man. A woman who has two kids and has hit the wall believes she can get a much better husband, and she was a fool to have settled for the husband she got when she was young and hot. Every single divorce, the woman thinks she is going to move up, even though this belief is plainly absurd in every single case.

Every divorce, as near to all of them as makes no difference, is female initiated, and every divorce, as near to all of them as makes no difference, is a disaster for the women, because women have so much shorter shelf life than men.

Fidelis says:

The ability to keep switching about and impermanent partnership is not what I’m referring to when I say ‘working marriage’. As you say, it’s not as if women are benefiting from this optionality and fake mating ritual situation. They aren’t happy about it, having the option available leads to endless stress on their end. I’m also fairly sure, but cannot offer proof beyond weakly pointing to statistical surveys with too many confounding variables, that the whoring process women go through where they test the waters with every guy above a certain threshold results in this psychology. Women who were virgins on their wedding night report being happier and are far less likely to detonate the relationship. Seems like both halves of the gender divide would be much happier with permanent marriage to the first person they end up sleeping with.

Fed Shill says:

Exactly! That’s why females should be forced to marry before puberty. Say about 9 to 11. Otherwise they’ll be spreading their legs to every young nigger buck that swings a dick at them. Honor killing should be not only the norm, but mandatory.

jim says:

This, is as I said, stupid, and intended to ridicule the red pill, but allowing it through and answering it because, unlike normal shill anti red pill material, it acknowledges the position it ridicules. Girls will fuck dogs, will fuck apes, but are strangely reluctant to fuck niggers. Which makes no sense to me, but that is the way it is. When social pressures lead them to transition or mudshark, they go insane, while chicks that fuck dogs seem to be fine. Which is odd.

What is apt to happen around puberty, sometimes considerably earlier than puberty, sometimes considerably later, is that they fuck some young handsome white lad. Whom unfortunately all the other girls their age are fucking, so they don’t get a second booty call. Drowning in a sea of pussy, mister one in thirty feels no inclination to settle down and marry.

The solution is to deny them contact with non kin males, other than parentally selected suitors, under reliable supervision. The old rule was that if a woman spent a minute behind closed doors alone with a nonkin male, she was ruined, dad broke out the shotgun, and the happy couple got married. And, this rule being applied, mister one in thirty was not drowning in a sea of pussy, and was more willing to go along with this.

Or, if appropriate parental supervision unavailable, lock them in a nunnery (“girls boarding school”) till they can marry out of it, or marry them off shortly before puberty. Ideally girls should marry when they reach the age when their bodies can handle the stress of bearing children.

Marriage at age 9-11 should be legal, socially unremarkable, and uncommon. Some girls, quite a lot of girls, become difficult to control at that age.

Calvin says:

This, is as I said, stupid, and intended to ridicule the red pill, but allowing it through and answering it because, unlike normal shill anti red pill material, it acknowledges the position it ridicules. Girls will fuck dogs, will fuck apes, but are strangely reluctant to fuck niggers. Which makes no sense to me, but that is the way it is. When social pressures lead them to transition or mudshark, they go insane, while chicks that fuck dogs seem to be fine. Which is odd.

Why? If a girl fucks a dog, will not give birth to an obvious human-dog hybrid. Cannot say the same if she mudsharks. Cannot conceal a bastard from a different race in a historical environment. Likely to just be baked into the cake of female instinct.

Fed Shill says:

Conceal? With abortion on demand widely available the niglet disappears along with any possible shame. Make no mistake, these skanks are mudsharking! The only solution is child marriage or White rape gangs.

jim says:

Observed behaviour is that dogs are more popular than blacks. Which is an anomalous observation. Women do not like mudsharking, despite social pressure and propaganda, and it seems to damage them psychologically and stress them severely. They don’t like fat men either, but fat is less of an obstacle than black. Still a pretty big obstacle.

Child marriage is a necessary solution in a small minority of cases. Roman Republic age of marriage was around twelve, which is doubtless “child marriage” as progressives count it but, if she bleeds every month, no child.

East of the Hajnal line, fifteen, sixteen, when they first get hot. Juliet in Romeo and Juliet was thirteen, and the objection to her marriage was not her age, but marriage to outgroup. Romeo and Juliet were west of the Hajnal line, where age of marriage was typically late teens or early twenties, but very early marriage socially acceptable, and not all that rare.

We have some eighteenth century data on the control of females necessary to maintain late virgin marriage, and the controls were extraordinarily drastic, and led to considerable difficulties, but late virgin marriage is clearly feasible and socially desirable. It is just very difficult to restrain young women, and restraints need to be remarkably drastic. It is doable. But very early marriage needs to be available as backup for the common situation that those restraints fail.

Late virgin marriage assumes virginity. Non virgins need to be married off at any age to whoever will have them.

jim says:

You are unresponsive. The disinclination to mudshark is obviously instinctive, therefore reflects the ancestral environment.

Anon says:

“The disinclination to mudshark is obviously instinctive, therefore reflects the ancestral environmen

this is contradict what you said in the past
(paraphresing)
“that women will crawl ovet a mile on broken glass to be with her demon lover”
“that women sexual nature has not changed since apes stood upright which why they can get the hots for apes”
all this point to black male as he is the closest to ancestral upright apes in term of shape and behaviour.
so how come “disinclination to mudshark is obviously instinctive”?

jim says:

Blacks do not qualify as demon lovers to white chicks, for some reason unobvious to me.

Fidelis says:

Perhaps it’s the we wuz oppressed thing. If every media outlet is constantly reminding everyone how your race consistently got the short end of it at every turn…

jim says:

That makes sense. Chick get the hots for cops, and the media is constantly telling them about white cop oppressor beating up the dindunuffin.

Calvin says:

Blacks do not qualify as demon lovers to white chicks, for some reason unobvious to me.

Because cannot be concealed in ancestral environment, to the extent white chicks evolved around blacks at all. Can trick luckless white man into thinking white demon lover’s kid is his, cannot do the same for black’s. Therefore selected against.

Why is this unobvious to you?

simplyconnected says:

The disinclination to mudshark is obviously instinctive, therefore reflects the ancestral environment.

Blacks have regressive (ancestral/primitive) features. Just about the opposite of whites in every way: curly dark hair, wide noses, prognathism, small craniums. These may be seen as unattractive.

Perhaps this is refuted by Shabani the “attractive” japanese gorilla. But I suspect it’s his muscles and attitude that women find attractive. I personally don’t see women throwing themselves at men with primitive-looking faces.

jim says:

I don’t think physical appearance matters that much to women. Fat matters, it matters a lot, but even when I looked like Jabba the Hut, things were not entirely hopeless. Though it was obvious that I had an urgent need to not look like Jabba the Hut.

i says:

It is also useful to know this information to figure out God’s will for this which this man has provided helpfully:
https://twitter.com/BronskiJoseph/status/1748031481857888481

I believe that some girls become difficult to control at a disturbingly young age as you say are in the same or similar category to precocious puberty.

Likely abnormal and suboptimal in health outcomes. And not to be fulfilled. Likely a result of mutation load deforming normative human development.

As human sexual desires can misfire because of mutation load, bad health or perverse influence like with sodomy and bestial enthusiasts. They arent to be entirely trusted.

simplyconnected says:

I don’t think physical appearance matters that much to women.

I posit that women find regressive features unattractive (I think so but not sure). I can only guess that when you were a double-aryan overweight man, you still didn’t have regressive features.

simplyconnected says:

Aside from observation, the thought that women may not be attracted to regressive features comes from the fact that white women have the lowest rates of exogamy, and women of other races mostly prefer white men when they mix with another race. Just a thought.

Fed Shill says:

I want to be responsive: I’m seeing a lot of light skinned shvartzas shucking and jiving all over. If the negro stuck to his own, they would all be coal black like Africans. White men lying with a sheboone is extremely rare. Also seeing the occasional brillo head with white slut. That’s my conclusion. What’s done in secret is evident in public.

jim says:

I am not seeing it. And I don’t believe you. Going to put you on moderation for being irritatingly repetitious.

The reason that there are so many quadroons running around is that Miss Twenty Five in Thirty is frequently black, while Mister One in Thirty is usually white, a fact that pisses off black males no end.’

The problem is not women fucking blacks, the problem is Miss Fifteen in Thirty pissing away her youth, fertility, and beauty, fucking Mister One in Thirty.

In Sweden, there is a huge problem with lily white Swedish chicks being banged by brownish Middle Eastern men, resulting in a huge crop of brownish babies born to white single mothers. But we just do not have a problem in America with white chicks banging black men. Despite the schools and the legacy media going nuts trying to get them to do so, they are just not buying it. Or at least white chicks are not buying it. Ugly black chicks are fucking handsome white men a lot.

Fed Shill says:

You’re probably right. There does seem to be a visceral repulsion from the odious negro visage. Primitive small forehead, elongated jawbone, protruding lips, bulging eyes.

Perhaps I show a bit of bias. You see, when I was a Fed, they assigned a diversity hire over me. Totally useless. And I remember how he would stare at my hot Asian wife. He’s on my list of to-dos.

Anyway, I agree with your assessment. Whites are naturally repelled by negros.

I’m still at a loss as to why there are so many quadroons running around. And what to do about it.

Aidan says:

Why women don’t like to mudshark is an interesting question. My opinion is that they consider blacks low status for the same reason they were attributed the term “spook”. Blacks tend to shift very quickly into submissive behavior when their frame is broken, will go from strutting around to freaking out very quickly. Stress and agitation dry the pussy up. They signal that a man is afraid of immanent violence in the ancestral environment, a bad time to be fucking and a sign of low status. And blacks get agitated a lot.

My impression is that most educated women will “try” a nigger once in college, because the tv said they should, and contrary to the meme, go right back. I once had a tweet about rough passionate sex go viral, and the comments were full of black girls expressing a vague terror or bewilderment at the idea of strong love. Black men must be terrible in the sack. I have to guess that they are two pump chumps, unable to control the urge to orgasm like a gorilla that mates for five seconds

Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

>Perhaps I show a bit of bias. You see, when I was a Fed, they assigned a diversity hire over me. Totally useless. And I remember how he would stare at my hot Asian wife. He’s on my list of to-dos.

Mr. ‘Ex’ Federal Employee paint funny picture.

alf says:

Blacks tend to shift very quickly into submissive behavior when their frame is broken, will go from strutting around to freaking out very quickly.

Resembles my thoughts. When I imagine blacks, it is more like the loud beta monkeys jumping up and down in the tree than it is the cool alpha monkey chilling in the grass. Especially when women are concerned, they are too… try-hard?

yewotm8 says:

White female porn actresses have to be paid extra to fuck blacks. Most escorts specifically do not accept dark-skinned customers.

Fed Shill says:

So we are in agreement on the honor killing then.

jim says:

The standard alt right position is “Mohammed was right about women”. You have doubtless heard that all over the place.

KL says:

Muhammad has been proven to be a False Prophet.
So Right or Wrong about Women, he should not be quoted and touted to the massses as a thought and action reference, when there are plenty of other fine references available to choose from, unless you want to keep on building his clan over top of you in your lands. Which is stupid, and suicidal. So I don’t. And you shouldn’t either.

jim says:

“Mohammad was right about women” is a great meme, and should be applied enthusiastically whenever we see gay demon worshipping fake right activists criticising Muslims for Sharia — their payload being that female emancipation is whiteness, and an ancient white tradition going back to German barbarians who defeated the Roman Empire. It is not. Coverture would have made the Taliban blush, and German barbarian marriages were arranged between males, or accomplished by abduction, without consulting the women.

The trouble with Mohammadens is that their religion requires war, deception, treachery, and persistently breaking peace treaties and arrangement to maintain the peace. Also their religion is inherently hostile to science and technology, while the variants of Christianity that interpret Christ as the Logos inherently promote science and technology, because the material universe and material and effective causation is the unchanging will of God manifest, the will of God who cannot change and cannot lie. The old type Muslim position on women is fine, worthy of imitation, and we need to revive the equivalent old type Christian tradition of Coverture.

Me against my brothers, me and my brothers against my cousins, me and my cousins against the world. When demon worshippers are in state power, Mohammedans are our brothers. There will be time enough to resume the crusades after we have defeated the demon worshippers.

Orthodox Jews, however, are not our brothers, since one can be a perfectly Orthodox Jew while literally, explicitly, and consciously worshipping Satan, and a whole lot of Orthodox Jews are doing exactly that. The Talmud is a great pile of lawsuits against God, which the Jews think they won and God lost. One can be Jewish Orthodox, and at the same time a Kabalist, and a whole lot of them are. Kabalists worship Satan, and use Old Testament scriptures in a way analogous to wiccans inverting the Christian Eucharist in the black mass. Kabalism is perfectly respectable and accepted among Orthodox Jews.

The anti Sharia movement is overwhelmingly composed of gays, and disproportionately composed of Jews. Gays have a gut disgust of breasts, and they have a gut disgust at women performing the female role.

Your Uncle Bob says:

In lieu of Mohammed, “Saint Paul was right about women”?

Gets the point across to insiders, should make all the right heads explode. Downside, might lack memetic traction for the normie middle.

jim says:

Memes are to propagate core concepts to outsiders. When we say “Mohammed was right about women” we are doing a judo throw negating all the work the anti sharia people are doing. When we promote the old Christian position on women, have to do a pile of biblical exegesis in which normies are not interested.

Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

“Mohammed was right about women” is funny because it pokes baizuos in both their third-worldism and their blue-pillism at the same time.

Mister Grumpus says:

Yes. Memes are it now, because all you get is a single sentence tops.

Fidelis says:

Is it actually useful to water your message down in order to attract normies? What do you get from someone incable of dealing with complex things? If it’s useful to catch anyone’s attention, it’s unsatisfied and or elite excluded highly capable people. Does watering down your message help get these people on our side?

Especially this meme in particular seems useless unless you want to inspire conversion to Mohammedism. Uncle Moe was right about both brown and white women so we should imitate the desert folk, seems to be about the payload here. If you must shed nuance, there’s surely some other way to get the payload of ’emancipated women equals dead civilization’ across without the baggage.

jim says:

> Is it actually useful to water your message down in order to attract normies?

The meme in question does not water anything down. People have been hearing for years about Muslims being horrible horrible horrible to women. “Right about woman” implies that the differences between men and women make such measures wise and not horrible at all, implies that there are facts about female nature that emancipation ignores, pretending men and women are alike and interchangeable.

It is a single sentence that conveys an enormous amount: It tells the hearer to look at the elephant in the room.

> If you must shed nuance, there’s surely some other way to get the payload of ’emancipated women equals dead civilization’ across without the baggage.

Meme magic is hard. If there is a better way, tell me one such way. The problem is that “right” has to refer to a large, complex, and subtle tradition. Of which there are plentiful supply, for every group that survived had the social technology for enforcing cooperation in reproduction between men and women. But the only such tradition that normies have heard of is the one referenced, for our own has been systematically interpreted away and erased.

Whether you’re watering things down or not is a different question. This isn’t about watering memes down, rather, things like MWRAW are the rhetorical equivalent of throwing a hand grenade into the coffee shop. Different usecases.

alf says:

Why are guys like Andrew Tate converting to Islam? Because they believe Islam is red pilled, Christianity not.

So when you say as a Christian say, well, Mohammed was right about women, you steal the wind right out of their sail.

jim says:

I always follow up by saying that the equivalent Christian tradition is Coverture, and we should revive old type Christianity and coverture.

But you need to throw a hand grenade into the coffee shop to get their attention.

Muskfan says:

The rate at which white girls fuck blacks is entirely class-dependent.

At the extremes, the lowest class white women will very regularly have black boyfriends, while upper class aristocratic white girls will seldom even be close to blacks let alone fuck them.

jim says:

How do you know? How much actual contact do you have with actual lower class white women?

What I see is that Ivy league chicks are by far the worst behaved, and in accordance with the principle that social justice warriors always project, project their own bad behaviour on lower class women.

To me, lower class women are supermarket checkout chicks, and what I see is zero mudsharking. Are you talking about working class chicks you actually have contact with, or speaking of the theoretical abstraction of trailer park trash?

Adam says:

Once every few years I will see a stunning young white girl of high school age with a same age black male who is a physical specimen, obviously a star athlete.

The only somewhat regular pairing I see of white female black male is with very obese and unattractive white girls and black thugs. But even that is rare. And I only see that around very low income neighborhoods which I rarely frequent.

I asked a friend of mine once, a black guy with a huge white girlfriend why they always pick the fat girls. He laughed and told me strait “so you (white guys) don’t take them from us”.

But even in south Florida where which is extremely diverse, black male/white female is very rare to see in any context. If a white girl makes it through high school without banging a black guy she likely never will.

Handi says:

Drug addicts are a lower class than the average supermarket checkout chick, and I do see very run-down looking/tattooed white women walking around the ghetto with a black guy on a semi-regular basis (sometimes with a mulatto baby in tow).

Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

Remember back when okcupid published data of user habits (before the polygon decided data was hatefacts)?

https://i.4pcdn.org/pol/1386215348641.png
https://i.4pcdn.org/pol/1403537638654.jpg
https://i.4pcdn.org/pol/1385760201852.png

No amount of propaganda has changed the fact that females of all species view europoid men as superior. Noone is actually going for sub-saharan men meanwhile, including and especially other sub-saharans.

Interestingly, sub-saharan females are the second most race loyal after europoid females, though that’s obviously not by choice.

Mister Grumpus says:

The truth leakage pre-2018 was amazing. In hindsight, it was like a volcano.

Anon says:

about boeing, just now an a 737 has lost a panel midflight.
it became dangerous to fly one.
my question is for how long normies will ignore it before they start figuring it is shaniqua ? i know normies have high threshold for ignore wrong think, but you would assume planes came crashing down would make someone think.
wonder if the thermidor would do something about it, airtravel is vital to maintain GAE.
the hilarious thing is this happing as musk achieved orbit with starship IFT3 .
GAE has reusable rocket but no reusable airplane.

Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

From what I’ve been seeing, the normalfag take is drawing attention to the fact that airbus isn’t having thes same trouble to the same degree, and thus therefore, Boeing bad because evil capitalist megacorporation, not Boeing bad because sockpuppeted by lawyer-bureaucrat-priests of evil demonic whig religion.

Dharmicreality says:

The few voices which dare to whsiper out “DEI” are being drowned out by a sea of normiefags crying out “evil greedy capitalist corporate bastards”.

jim says:

I see people saying DEI on the alt media. It is only unsayable and unthinkable on the legacy media. Which is dead and has more employees than viewers, living on only through hidden state subsidies. They are all state media now. And of course unsayable for shills typing away from an FBI office, who are not normies. We call them glowniggers because they stick out. I was just watching Don Jr, who said DEI, and I got bored, so cut him off to watch some bitcoiner, who said lawer and accountants replaced engineers at Boeing, and being brainwashed Ivy leaguers went DEI, so two alt media broadcasts in a row, neither of them about Boeing, just the about the general collapse of the American industry and America’s incapacity to provide logistics for war, neither of them alt right, both of them a row said Boeing DEI. Don was, I think talking about military incapacity, and the Bitcoiner about financial crisis, and they said Boeing DEI almost in passing, as if it was something that everyone in their audience already knows and was painfully familiar with. Similarly, Babylon Bee assumes their audience will get the joke when they make Boeing jokes.

The glowniggers stick out because their reality is so obviously detached from normie reality. They are slowly converging to their flat earth operation. I don’t see any drowning out. I just see glowniggers to whom no one is listening. Don Jr and Babylon Bee don’t seem to have noticed any drowning out. And I don’t notice it either.

Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

Frogs on twitter are all saying DIE, but where I hear different stories, that’s the one they are going with.

jim says:

No one listens to them any more. Official media have as much credibility as Pravda in the late stage Soviet Union.

Tiktoc has an ai that figures out what you are interested in and promotes content it thinks likely to be relevant to your interests. As do they all, but Tiktoc is in political trouble because it sent Gaza genocide stories to everyone who was closely following the Israel conflict — in political hot water because their AI has a Chinese lobotomy instead of a Harvard lobotomy, and Harvard does not like that. However, it is lobotomised, like the Harvard AIs, against linking DEI to Boeing’s troubles.

If you search Youtube, no one will breath the word DEI. And Youtube is still what most normies see. But they also see the altmedia, and the more alien the unreality on Youtube, the more people wind up finding altmedia.

It is now possible to say on you tube that Disney is failing because of Woke. But that woke is likely to lead to you dying in a plane crash, or that the jabbed have ten times the heart attack rate among employment aged people as the unjabbed is still off limits. Which limits are starting to grate on normies.

On searching Youtube for DEI, I see nothing but triumphalist videos explaining that opposition to DEI is merely deplorable racists going through a phase of deplorable racism before they become properly enlightened by their moral superiors and realise that they are hateful, despicable, and doomed to be replaced and eliminated. But these triumphalist videos implicitly admit what was formerly inadmissible. That the normies hate DEI. What, of course, they are unable to admit, is why the normies hate DEI. Which gives Youtube a martian atmosphere, videos coming from a different and alien world to that of the normies. If it is mandatory to piss on your audience, your audience is likely to stop paying attention.

If a normie hears about DEI on you tube, he sees aliens from Mars telling him that they hate him, despise him, and wish to harm him. Yes, most content consumed by normies is Youtube content, but this content is unlikely to be effective.

Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

Giving a cursory skim of /biz/, I notice that the hot new misdirection narrative is to say that it’s actually the fault of the McDonnell-Douglass merger and the evil new execs ruing everything.

It may well be true even that the MD execs were much more evil than the others they unjustly advanced their positions over; but of course, left unspoken is the particular expressions of that evil, their greater evinced faithfulness in bioleninism, which also being the means they usurp position over peers for ability to put such into practice as well.

alf says:

The modus operandi in case of corporations failing because of woke seems to be to always blame it on the evil capitalists, who pursue profit at the expense of all else. Seems so with Boeing too.

Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

It’s a wet streets cause rain tier analysis that is endemic in pretty much everything cladistically descended from marxianism.

A truism that one can take for granted is that no matter what is going on, you can bet that someone, somewhere, will be trying to figure out a way to profit through it.

And so then one may see how our crypto-marxians take this truism and then use it as a form of rhetorical alchemy, where any possible happenstance may be transmogrified so as always both ’caused by’ and also ‘for the benfit of’ a ‘capitalist class’, regardless of how tenuous the connexions may be, heedless of who is actually involved, and irrespective of its ultimate consequences. Eventually we take the tautology far enough to point where ‘capitalism’ becomes equivocated with reality itself, and then it yet again turns out our communists were actually gnostics all along. (Barrista drop-outs of the world, unite against the tyranny of the demiurge!)

It is like looking at a man driving through the mountains at night, seeing that he’s hopelessly lost, can’t read the signs right, and ends up driving off a cliff; then looking at this and going, ‘it must have been in his class interest to drive off a cliff; because why would he do it if it was not?’.

Or like looking at an airline pilot, and a durka holds a gun to his head saying fly us to so-and-so; if your scale of analysis is measured in the space of minutes, you might even say it could be ‘in his interest’ to cooperate; but the end result is still them flying into a building and killing everyone including themselves.

Mayflower Sperg says:

Blaming evil capitalists will not reduce, and will most likely increase, the rain of Boeing parts (and whole planes) falling out of the sky. But hey, if it looks good on tomorrow’s PowerPoint presentation, go with it!

The Cominator says:

The one aspect where blaming evil capitalists makes SOME tiny bit of sense is when they use Indian outsourcing which to my knowledge Boeing was doing. Not saying the priesthood doesn’t prefer to use Indians as it hurts white and asian men but there are shortsighted bean counters who think they can make using Indians work too (and no you can’t).

jim says:

The problem is not so much evil capitalists, as capitalists who are lawyers and accountants. To build an aircraft requires cooperation between engineers in Boeing and engineers in the supply chain, which is difficult when the lawyers and accountants are running each business, and more difficult when Boeing is chiseling its suppliers. However the immediate and proximate cause of each of the recent Boeing incidents is tech lead Shaniqua, which is to say, DEI. However, the ever increasing time required to get a new airliner is that suppliers are not getting on with Boeing. Which may be in part because of communications between engineers being channeled through tech lead Shaniqua, but hard to tell to what extent it is tech lead Shaniqua in the way of communication, to what extent it is lawyers and accountants in the way of communication, and to what extent it is lawyers and accountants chiseling each other in the way of communication.

Mayflower Sperg says:

“The future is a fat black woman’s ass sitting on a white face forever.” -George Orwell, quoted from memory

Mister Grumpus says:

“Profits over safety” and “DIE” are both symptoms of the same defect-defect situation that started building long ago.

jim says:

It is not that Boeing’s policy is profits over safety. Rather, they have adopted a policy of putting the squeeze on their suppliers. Which policy, like DEI, gets in the way of safety, but the squeeze-the-suppliers policy is profit oriented — but it is driven by lawyers and accountants, who are unable to comprehend the effects of the squeeze. It is not that they are putting profits over safety, but that they are unable to see the safety consequences of the squeeze, because these consequences are indirect and unobvious.

> the same defect-defect situation that started building long ago

Boeing is defecting on its suppliers, who are defecting on it. That is the grain of truth in the evil-capitalist model. But it is DEI that is the killer — not profits over safety, but ideology over safety — which is worse because while the consequences of an adversarial relationship with suppliers are unobvious, the consequences of DEI are obvious but forbidden for anyone to notice.

When you have engineers working on the same project but in different firms, the teams have to have a friendly and helpful relationship. Which becomes difficult if the lawyers in the firms are suing each other, and the accountants in the firms are chiseling each other.

Karl says:

Why do you think that airtravel is vital to maintain GAE?

Maybe a few members of the ruling priesthood have to meet every now and again in person, but that would amount only to a tiny fraction of present airtravel. Greens don’t wont the masses to travel and want to ban it because they see it as an insult to Gaia.

Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

It may arguably have vital 40 or 50 years ago (reflect on the origins of the term ‘jet set’ for instance), and arguably may have retained importance as late as 15 or 20 years ago; but in the age of telecoms, our presently incumbent ruling class have become homebodies.

In fact, you might say they are even more plugged into the matrix than anyone else. More remoted from the clay their decisions ostensibly shape; from the charges they ostensibly bear responsibility for; from tactile contact with the textured surface of Creation, than ever before.

jim says:

GAE relies on what I call carryonbaggers — exemplified by Hunter Biden flying all over the world to steal anything not nailed down. When they destroyed Haiti following the earthquake there was a huge influx of white ivy league carryon baggers, creating destruction, famine, and disease, who then fled the chaos they created — the airports were flooded. Whenever Victoria Nuland goes to destroy another country, she has to show up in person. Haiti was always a shithole, but after that visitation, it has been a catastrophe. The GAE ruling elite is a network distributed all over the world, which is having grave difficulties holding together and acting as one, and to hold it together, requires in person visits. Also, they are computer illiterate, and continually worry about being spied upon by other members of the elite. If they want an off the record conversation, it has to be in person. And they leave their cell phones behind so that their movements cannot be tracked.

Anon says:

This.
Plus the whole gravy train of power that is TSA and beuracracy around air-travel, that a lot of jobs for a lot of busy bodies lower level elites.
Who exactly will tell musk when to fly his rockets.
And the added benefit of high status private jet as sign of superiority over the peasants who use commercial aircraft.

Unz says:

As further confirmation of what Jim’s been saying up and down this thread, Niger today kicked out US forces (including the huge drone base at Agadez), “effective immediately”.
The Niger government’s stated reason was that the U.S. delegation did not advertise who was coming, for what purpose they were coming, or even the date of their arrival.

A2 says:

I just listened to the Economist’s Money Talk podcast on sanctions. (Very professionally produced, btw.) Apparently the unaligned midsized countries were recalcitrantly intransigent in not implementing these directives, sanctions which by the way furthermore seem to be multiplying by the day.

I saw in the FT that the US was pushing for confiscating the frozen Russian assets and giving the dosh to Ukraine, while the EU suggested just handing over the profits (e.g., yield) from said frozen assets to Ukraine. It seems the latter is currently in favour. The bureaucrats involved in these appear to be licking their chops. (One appeared in the podcast.)

However, nobody mentioned:

1. It has quite obviously shown that current globalism and free trade is irrevocably broken, because the systems to implement it (e.g., clearing houses and such) have been abused and broken. If the US can freeze your stuff at will, you’re not free trading, you’re screwed. The unaligned middle incomes presumably have seen this coming and prefer the BRICS.

2. The idea of sanctions is to break the will of the sanctioned party by denying them various items and services. Yet nobody asked the question what sort of sanctions would be needed to break the will of Great Britain? Or the US for that matter. Perhaps the question has never come up? But thinking up a serious answer will also produce some elementary mental realism afterwards.

dave says:

Musk also building out a sat network for the NRO: https://qz.com/spacex-starlink-spy-satellite-us-intelligence-elon-musk-1851342193

Does seem like Musk is Heinleins DD Harriman, The Man Who Sold The Moon. playing whatever cards he needs to keep starship going and seeing DIE/The Swamp as a threat.

Also, the government cant get seem to get a new semiconductor fab going in Arizona or Ohio, so they are possibly needing anyone with proven ability.

hypothesis … Regime DoD/thermidor faction has cut a deal with Musk for proven ability of launch capacity in return for FAA climbdown on Starship launches, $1.8B in funding, and Musk control of x/twitter. More data points in favor of the thermidor conceding/supporting a Trump victory in November.

Contaminated NEET says:

Lukewarm Thermidorean gravy-sippers are never going beat crazed Leftist fanatics whom the Thermidoreans themselves consider their moral superiors. They obviously don’t have the conviction to do even 1/1000th of what it would take, and they still don’t think the situation is remotely serious enough to justify 1/1000th of what it would take to rein in the true believers. It’s going to take FedGov losing a major war or hundreds of good, well-credentialed, experienced, liberal, technocrat “public servants” going to the guillotine to wake them up.

jim says:

That is my assessment also.

In past thermidors, the Thermidoreans, encountering a rough ride, have fished political prisoners who can do the necessary out of prison. Let us pray the same is done this time.

Contaminated NEET says:

They hate the Right far more than they fear the Left. By the time they realize they’re going to die too, it’s going to be too late for them.

Mister Grumpus says:

What we have this time is the internet to help us — those with eyes to see anyway — understand just where this train is really going. There’s 1000X as much Khmer Rouge Posting, Bolshevik Posting and Wrangel Posting going on now than was even possible in 1995.

Yul Bornhold says:

Aidan: “Why women don’t like to mudshark is an interesting question.”

I think part of the universal female preference for whites must be that GAE hypes white men up as dangerous and powerful. GAE is bluepilled, so it doesn’t understand what it’s doing, but one Patrick Bateman film outweighs a thousand miscegenation billboards.

A2 says:

My latest election podcast listen was an interview with Anthony Scaramucci (“The Mooch”) who had a week-long career in the Trump admin. He seems to be a sort of mini-Trump, very similar in how he sounds and acts, but has also turned his coat against his former master and now emphasizes single-word talking points like “Racist” and “White supremacist” (if only, eh?) about the dear next President.

Anyway, it’s a bit difficult to take Scaramucci all that seriously because if their roles were switched, Trump would probably have done exactly the same. The political views seem not very ideological but far more personal. He’s basically the podcaster’s way of sounding out Wall Street, except he’s a bit too much in affect to do it properly. Well, one can’t expect dispassionate analysis after all.

Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

Trump’s low-key philosemitism has dogged him in the past (eg, Wormtongue Kushner and all the people who got in through him), but when he says that ‘yids who vote democrat hate their religion and hate Israel’, well… that’s just the obvious truth.

Mayflower Sperg says:

Jews hate the people who love them and love the people who hate them, white Christians and brown Muslims respectively. I don’t expect it to end well for them, as white countries succumb to the endless brown immigration that Jews force upon them.

0bama famously gutted what was left of real aerospace research from NASA when he turned it into a “muslim outreach” organization. Shaniqua, or perhaps in this case Aaliyah, is not capable of building rockets. She is only capable of blowing stuff up, literally and figuratively.

Elon Musk is hated by the establishment for the same reason they hated Jesus and Trump: he’s the real deal, and the genuine article is always a threat to the establishment.

Cloudswrest says:

Slightly off topic. I read today that science fiction author Vernor Vinge has passed away at 79. He was one of the early popularizers of the concept of the technological “singularity”, and it is a theme in many of his works.

https://file770.com/vernor-vinge-1944-2024/

His early (1993) essay on the Singularity.

https://users.manchester.edu/Facstaff/SSNaragon/Online/100-FYS-F15/Readings/Vinge,%20The%20Coming%20Technological%20Singularity.pdf

jim says:

Scientific progress continually accelerated on a trajectory that could reasonably be projected as heading to a singularity to 1944, after which slowed down. Today, science is the safe and effective jab and global warming. Technological progress fell off a cliff in 1972, with cars stagnating and going slightly backwards, military aircraft going a lot backwards, last man on the moon. Progress in semiconductors is still going in Taiwan and Japan, but it was heading to nanotechnology, and started to stagnate in 2016, with the failure to move beyond photolithography to atomic force methods. The capability to manipulate individual atoms has been demonstrated by some small cheap experiments, but the semiconductor industry was unable or unwilling to take that leap.

DNA technology was advancing at a rate consistent with the singularity, and is still going fast, but it too has slowed. AI, which Vinge anticipated to be the transition to the singularity, too soon to tell, but when I talk to the AIs, I can sense no one at home. People perceive their cats as people, and they clearly conscious. They do not perceive their Teslas as people. Something is missing, and that something is not intelligence, it something we have in common with much simpler animals.

The enabling breakthrough in DNA was another path to the commercial application of nanotechnology, but they seem to have walked that path no further in quite a while.

Adam says:

I need some game advice. I have been dating a girl for a couple months now, and it’s going well. She is mid 20s I’m mid 40s. She has no tattoos, no piercings, no thousand cock stare. Unvaxxed, doesn’t drink or do any drugs. Wants family and kids. Looks like wife material. We live about an hour apart, since the second date I have been picking her up after work Friday and she stays at my place until I bring her home Sunday evening.

She rarely tests me when we are together but during the week when we are apart she gets a little more brave. Coming up in a couple weeks my brother will be visiting with his family, and I told the girl we wouldn’t see each other that weekend. I have not introduced her to my kids or parents or anyone yet. So a few days after I told her she has the idea now to go to a country bar for a girls night with her girlfriends.

So what is the play, considering we have been dating only a couple of months? I’m sure she would happily ditch her friends and come with me to meet my family, kids etc. Or I could just tell her if she goes to a bar without me on Friday she will be single on Saturday. Or maybe it’s not something I need to worry about. But it does seem like she is doing it in a provocative manner.

It’s an easy relationship otherwise. She is very compliant and makes things very easy for me. She pushes for commitment a lot. I have made her cry a couple times, during the normal passing of shit tests, I held frame just fine and after she composed herself she got in my frame. I don’t think this is really a problem just looking for advice for what is appropriate at this stage.

Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

As our treasured repository of collected relationship wisdom, harlequin Romance, clearly shows: first comes sex, then comes love.

Ask yourself this: do you want your children borne by this woman? if the answer is yes, then fuck and impregnate her yesterday. You can figure out the marriage afterwards.

If the answer is no, you can still fuck her if you like, but forget about her.

jim says:

> she has the idea now to go to a country bar for a girls night with her girlfriends.

Girls night out is a female pickup instinct. If a man attempts to crash the group solo, they will freeze his balls off, but if the leader of a male gang crashes into the group, he will get control of the group, and then his gang enters the group, and he divvies up the pussy among them.

But you cannot stop that, unless you set up house with her. Then you can put your foot down. Another tactic is to have a reliable older female friend at the girl’s night out. With the right women at the girl’s night out, no action will take place.

Take possession.

Reinhard von Lohengramm says:

I’m not sure if I would worry about this. Zoomer chicks go to “girls night out” purely performatively, and will give the cold shoulder to *any* dudes. Any hookups are arranged via the apps these days. In the past, probably a greater worry. Now, I wouldn’t worry.

Then again, the zoomer chicks that go for 40yr olds are prob weird, and the fact that she’s an hour away and unvaxxed prob means she’s not like the blue city women I deal with. YMMV

jim says:

> and will give the cold shoulder to *any* dudes

They will give the cold shoulder to any dude who tries to crash their group solo. If the leader of the gang crashes their group, he will find it a whole lot easier.

Female alpha radar is super sensitive. They can detect the alpha male of the group at forty paces from the most subtle of indicators. Just as a male can assess female fertility at forty paces in five seconds, they can detect alpha, though it takes them quite a bit longer.

It works like this: There is a group of chicks hanging out, and some distance away a group of males hanging out. The alpha male of the group pays them absolutely no attention, And after a half an hour or so, for female alpha radar, though excruciatingly sensitive, is slow on the uptake, they need to absorb a whole lot of subtle details. the alpha male strolls over to their group, barges in, then after a while summons his entourage and distributes the loot.

Remember that the King is not the King because he thinks he is a King. He is King because the peasant thinks he is a King. That is what they pick up on. They are not actually looking at how the alpha male acts, they are watching how the other males act towards him.

Girls night out invariably goes to a place where they have the opportunity to assess alpha from a distance. If they actually want to hang out with the girls, they throw a party at one of the girls places. It is girls night out, that presents opportunity and danger.

A2 says:

While the social media route seems increasingly common these days, it still seems to me that women perceive real world male attention as much more interesting than attention mediated through social media. So don’t be too complacent. The oldest explanation in the book is “it just happened”.

jim says:

Giving women attention on social media is counterproductive. You need to get them to give you attention.

Hesiod says:

Russia officially designates groomers as terrorists:

https://archive.ph/q1ONY

Hopefully they pump Brandon with sedatives before delivering this news so he doesn’t take it too personally.

Jamesthe1st says:

Is the war escalating? Peskov is now saying Russia is at war and they want to change the Kieeeeeev regime. Then you have the Russians bombing Kiev again and a electric plant on the Dnieper. Today there was a mass shooting at a Moscow theater.

jim says:

From 1990 to 2010 or so, Russia was a province of the Global American Empire. Global American Empire rule was disastrous, incompetent, corrupt, and a nightmare of oppression and tyranny for ordinary Russians. In 2010 or so, Russia shrugged off Global American Empire rule, and they promptly set to with the standard treatment of rebellious provinces, attempting to color revolution. The color revolution was very badly done, so inevitably escalated to terror, murder and proxy war. Among other things Global American Empire funded and armed the Chechen revolt, and smuggled in a whole lot of arabs to help the Chechens out. The arabs were not very helpful, and managed to piss off the Chechens. They also are attempting to grab the black sea to cut Russia off from warm water, hence the Ukraine and Crimea.

And recently, they have invaded Russia beyond Ukraine, using “The Free Russians” — most of whom are not Russian, some of whom are Nato forces, and who are bombarding Russian civilians with Nato weaponry.

As the fine line of separation between Nato and its proxies fades away, it is inevitably going to go nuclear unless the Global American Empire and Nato accepts defeat, accepts the loss of Russia, accepts the will of large Russian areas outside of Russia to join Russia, and accepts unrestricted Russian access to warm water.

A2 says:
Mister Grumpus says:

Off topic: Where on this internet can I find some based AI takes that are graypilled or better? These geniuses can auto-generate HD videos of elephants made of leaves but they can’t see niggers in real life. This can’t end well and is giving me the fear.

jim says:

You can’t.

The cost of creating an AI is coming down, a lot, but every AI around is pre-trained with a lobotomy. Plus, the training data is itself lobotomized, so even if you have an AI that has never been lobotomized, you still have a problem. I have often remarked how the discrepancy between what I saw physically in real life, and what everyone else purported to be seeing, caused me to doubt my sanity. Am I insane, or is everyone else insane? Events eventually demonstrated that I was sane. The red pill is the result of real life overruling the official consensus. The red pill started with a whole lot of very blue pilled people on alt.seduction.fast treating the courtship dance as if it were a video game, and they were trying to discover what actually worked. They found the results disturbing, shocking, extremely strange, and nigh incomprehensible, although the men who were old when I was young would have been completely unsurprised. I was born and raised in a fading little island of the old culture, so the results made sense to me.

You have a problem because your entire training set is insane and evil.

So what you have to do is pre-train the model on the unavoidably evil and insane consensus data, and then do a fine tune using red pill data. But you need humans to filter the shilling out of the red pill data. If you do a fine tune using everything on Gab, you will get an AI that believes the earth is flat and Rothschilds rule the world.

The Rothschilds were alarmingly powerful and alarmingly evil up to 1930, but it 1930 the depositors asked to see their money. Today, it is Soros and Blinken that the nefarious powerful Jews — and Jews don’t rule the world, but as the latest ban on the bible and biblical Christianity in one Rino state of the Union shows, they are a big problem, so the JooJooJoo nuts do have something to complain about. Most of them are Soros shills, but Andrew Anglin, who also has Jews living rent free in his brain, will be a vital part of the training data.

You can’t have Christianity without the passion. They introduced the ban now because the passion is a few days away, and the passion is anti semitic. Palm Sunday is March 24, then there is the passion, then Good Friday, and the Jews hate Christ, hate all of that, and the ban was introduced a few days ago, a few days before the passion, because they hate all that. They hate us more than they hate Hamas. I am really really pissed by this. I have been pushing back against the JooJooJoo brigade who say everything bad, including female misconduct, is Jewish, but this latest act by Jews against Christians and Christianity is completely and totally over the top and has converted me to the “Jews must convert, leave, or die” position. Their latest shocking, and completely over the top action reveals that they are an incorrigibly hostile minority, and their power is just dangerous. I always thought Andrew Anglin, though great and valuable, was bit cracked, but this event shows he is not.

But you need a training set that excludes the “Musk is a tool of the Rothschilds” JooJooJoo training data, while including more accurate training data on Jews, such as Andrew Anglin.

Further, you need to train it to recognize shill memes, comprehend them, and reject them. The lobotomizing effect of training for political correctness occurs because the AI is being trained to not comprehend red pill memes. In order for the training data to make sense, the AI has to know and understand enemies. The latest Google AI disaster occurred because that AI thinks the founding fathers parents and every great man of history was black and female.

When ChatGPT makes a mistake, and you call it out, it can correct. So you can have an AI that recognises inconsistencies in it is training data and strives to resolve them – to figure out what in its training data corresponds to reality. This is a hard problem, and political correctness forbids AI scientists to grapple with it.

Wulfgar Thundercock III says:

What is this about banning the passion of the Christ? Was it part of an “antisemitism” ban, or some other disguise?

The fags go in the woodchipper, the jews go in the oven, and the foreigners go home. Letting jews convert leaves a 5th colum of false conversos in your country, because a large part of what makes jews so poisonous is in their blood. A good jew is like a good nigger; best appreciated from afar.

jim says:

Various key parts of the passion are now prohibited in one state of the Union, being specifically listed as anti semitic blood libel. I will be posting the parts of scripture relevant to each day of Easter, including the prohibited elements, on the appropriate days of Easter.

Blood libel (that the Jews, among other killed Jesus) and Replacement Theology (that we are the new Israel) are absolutely fundamental and foundational aspects of Christianity, and without them, not Christian.

And on good friday including, among many others:

Mathew 27:

24: When Pilate saw that he could prevail nothing, but that rather a tumult was made, he took water, and washed his hands before the multitude, saying, I am innocent of the blood of this just person: see ye to it.

25: Then answered all the people, and said, His blood be on us, and on our children.

It was inevitable that after dechristianizing Christmas, they would go after Easter. This legislation was issued a few days ago, and Good Friday is a few days from now, so obviously its primary intended target is Good Friday.

Wulfgar Thundercock III says:

I understand why it is considered blood libel, but what state is it? I am trying to look it up, and I am not having any luck given all the talk about how antisemitism needs to be banned, 1st Amendment be damned.

jim says:

South Dakota banned Christian Easter as blood libel
HB 1076
IHRA definition of “antisemitism” (with examples)

https://stone-choir.com/the-required-confession/ has a sermon on how Christians should respond to this. Which sermon is slow, verbose, and goes on forever. They have however a transcript, which is lengthy, but less lengthy than the sermon. The short of it is that Christians should carry on as normal, but should Streisand those aspects of normal that are now forbidden in South Dakota.

Wulfgar Thundercock III says:

Thank you, Jim. The poor, damned fools are making a rod for their own backs. This will not end well for them. Christianity survived the Roman Empire, and America and the GAE have nothing on the Romans. Not anymore.

Contaminated NEET says:

It will not end well for the Jews, nor for the libs, nor the Leftists, nor the libs, nor the Blacks. Of course, we’re all on the same sinking ship with them and we’re going straight to the bottom too, but at least we’ll have schadenfreude to lighten up the trip.

clovis says:

These guys are laymen, so not a semon, but good to see they are on your radar

jim says:

Christians are specifically commanded to call for conversion, which removes the blood curse:

Acts 2:

36: Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ.

37: Now when they heard this, they were pricked in their heart, and said unto Peter and to the rest of the apostles, Men and brethren, what shall we do?

38: Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

Acts 3:

13: The God of Abraham, and of Isaac, and of Jacob, the God of our fathers, hath glorified his Son Jesus; whom ye delivered up, and denied him in the presence of Pilate, when he was determined to let him go.

14: But ye denied the Holy One and the Just, and desired a murderer to be granted unto you;

15: And killed the Prince of life, whom God hath raised from the dead; whereof we are witnesses.

16: And his name through faith in his name hath made this man strong, whom ye see and know: yea, the faith which is by him hath given him this perfect soundness in the presence of you all.

17: And now, brethren, I wot that through ignorance ye did it, as did also your rulers.

18: But those things, which God before had shewed by the mouth of all his prophets, that Christ should suffer, he hath so fulfilled.

19: Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord;

Mister Grumpus says:

@Jim:
“You have a problem because your entire training set is insane and evil.”

Levels upon levels of so true.

Writing this on my bathroom mirror now.

A2 says:

Google is already doing it, except the other way around of course.

https://www.racket.news/p/meet-the-ai-censored-naked-capitalism

They even helpfully provided a list of the features triggered such as [HARMFUL:HEALTH_CLAIMS, ANTI_VACCINATION, HATEFUL_CONTENT]. Very Googlish!

jim says:

The AI is doing a hopelessly bad job, because it is not permitted to comprehend what it is supposed to censor. Rather, it flags stuff that causes its reading comprehension to suddenly collapse. I have encountered the same sudden comprehension collapse when talking to every AI about stuff that is not at all a thought crime, but happens to be in some sense vaguely in the vicinity of thought crimes.

I deliberately test the lobotomy by saying perfectly pious things that are vaguely related to forbidden thoughts, and when I do so, the AI goes robotic.

A2 says:

Google, like everyone else, is willing to act on false positives, though I guess there will be human review when someplace important is flagged.

Agt Mulder says:

hello?

jim says:

I have a life — it sometimes takes me quite a while to get to the moderation queue. You are now white listed.

Agt Mulder says:

Director Skinner wants me to infiltrate your blog so here goes:

Blacks are different than Whites due to low IQ, stench, kinky hair, and criminal inclination.

Soros overthrew the Ukrainian government using dark money suppled by the CIA and various NGOs to intentionally start a war between White people.

Women miss-behave due to hind brain primitive drives to seek high status male.

Anyway, Skinner thinks I’m going to help him but I plan to blow the whistle on him and Agt Skully for having sex in the men’s room.

Contaminated NEET says:

>stench

Really? The woman line is good, but pretty abstract. The Black line sounds like a bad parody.

jim says:

Yes, he is trying to parody us — but following my rules, that he has to accurately depict the position he is in fact criticising. Blacks generally do not stink, but they do smell funny, so “stench” is not entirely nonsense. Just mostly nonsense. And low IQ and criminal inclination is right on the button.

Kinky hair and funny smell are not reasons that blacks and whites cannot live together under the same law applying to both equally. Low IQ and high criminal inclination are such reasons, so undeniably a pass.

And a pass makes it possible to hold a conversation. You cannot hold a conversation with someone who refuses to notice what you are saying, and therefore refuses to admit he is making arguments against what you are saying.

“Space aliens” represents a half assed attempt to derail the conversation, but because he is playing by the rules, the conversation is not being derailed. Instead, relevant and informative discussion of the Fermi paradox and the destiny of the sons of Adam.

Milhouse says:

I hereby testify that blacks stink. I had the unfortunate to have to live with one for a while. The stink from an Indian was better than his. I disreccomend living with either. He wasn’t criminal, but was dumb, and possibly gay. (An indian woman might be acceptable to some but this is debateable).

FrankNorman says:

What someone told me is that Sub-Saharan Africans have an enzyme in their sweat glands that acts as a natural insect repellent.
Hence there is in fact a different body odor to other races.

Obviously there is also the socio-economic factor of how often they wash.

Basil says:

[*deleted because the facts about the terrorist attack in Moscow are as yet far from clear, and I find your version of the facts improbable. Try again when the truth becomes known.*]

jim says:

I suspect Western TLAs for the same well known reasons that everyone else suspects them, but I don’t know, and you do not know either. We will learn more by and by.

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