Musk tweeted:
“The far left hates everyone, themselves included!”
Now where did you first hear the meme “The left hates everyone, themselves included”?
And now everyone is saying it.
And people who are repeating Musk are also talking about a far left minority moving into everything and taking over, exercising terrifying power wildly disproportionate to their actual support. They are saying “paper tiger”.
What happened to the Canadian trucker protesters and the Jan 6 protesters, however, demonstrates that this minority can only be removed by organized violence, and those saying “paper tiger” are still, for the most part, suffering normality bias. But if one meme penetrates, the next will eventually penetrate also.
> What happened to the Canadian trucker protesters and the Jan 6 protesters, however, demonstrates that that this minority can only be removed by organized violence,
We’ve always known this. Most bullies are pussies, but they don’t back down until someone calls their bluff and punches them in the teeth.
Jan. 6 was always stupid, if for no other reason that Trump himself is a pussy who was unworthy of those people’s sacrifices.
breaks my heart what happened to those guys. and we knew it would happen, and the fact that Trump didnt pardon them immediately…. He should have blanket pardoned BLM and the Jan 6th protesters on the way out, the BLM pardon for some political cover of course.
How many people did the Jan 6 people kill?
Let Kamala pardon the Burn Loot Murder crowd. They don’t need pardons anyway, since none are in jail.
zero.
Which is why they are not being brought to trial.
As I said, Nina Jankowicz can, and quite possibly will, indefinitely imprison Musk under torture without trial. That is power.
This is pure insanity. There’s simply no point replying to this.
If i may offer a neutral position that Musks redgov position and possibly some bribes may give him some protection.
The number of political prisoners in the US has been steadily and rapidly increasing, and are now more than anyone can keep count of.
They have been imprisoning people on political grounds since Sheriff Joe.
Redgov power and bribery failed to protect Sheriff Joe and General Flynn. What makes you think it will reliably protect Musk?
All present all political prisoners held indefinitely under torture without trial are nonentities, but big names have been imprisoned before, and will be again. The use of direct state state violence against political opposition became a major and serious problem with Sheriff Joe, and, as I predicted, has rapidly become bigger and more serious. In the Ukraine, they don’t fuck around with deplatforming, cancelling, and demonetizing. They just kill the opposition. And our political elite is inspired by plucky little Ukraine.
Since Sheriff Joe, the number of political prisoners has grown rapidly. It will continue to grow. The killing fields of the Khmer Rouge are still far off, but a lot less far than they used to be in 2017, and 2017 is not so very long ago.
Musk is way more important to them and redgov didn’t like Trump either…
Who’s the most prominent “political prisoner” in the U.S. right now?
It appears you’re predicting Musk will be jailed relatively soon. When are you predicting that will happen, plus or minus three months?
No, not necessarily predicting that. Am predicting that no matter what Musk does, we are likely to see decisive and effective action to prevent free speech on social media. Musk might back off or back down, when legal, accounting, and HR tells him that what the ministry of truth prohibits must not be said, albeit if he does back down it will be because a little bird tells him he is about to get the General Flynn or Jan 6th treatment, and legal, accounting, and HR tell him on the record that dangerous thoughts are advocacy of violence, and off the record that when he is in prison no one who matters will care about the truth.
Or he might be merely deplatformed, cancelled, and demonetized. When the dust settles, might be a big step towards the killing fields of the Khmer Rouge, or it might be merely yet another tiny step. Imprisoning him indefinitely under torture would be a big step, though no bigger than steps already taken. They might accomplish their goal with smaller steps, or they might take an even bigger step just for the hell of it. As we approach the left singularity, specific predictions get harder and harder, but the general increase in social entropy is reliably predictable.
> Am predicting that no matter what Musk does, we are likely to see decisive and effective action to prevent free speech on social media.
Which would be what?
> Or he might be merely deplatformed, cancelled, and demonetized.
Elon Musk is the richest man on the planet and one of the smartest. The Shaniquas and trannies in the government aren’t going to do shit to him, let alone “cancel” and “demonetize” him.
Any of the numerous methods I have listed, from cancelling, deplatforming, and demonetizing him (lots of people get their bank accounts frozen for political reasons, why not Musk), to just plain killing him, murdering him under color of law like Epstein and innumerable less well known people, or just having some thug that no one is allowed to get excessively curious about kill him, or anything in between.
Or Accounting, Legal, and Human Resources might tell him to back off and obey the ministry of truth, on the record because forbidden thoughts are violence, and off the record because if he does not he will be getting the General Flynn treatment or the Epstein treatment or such.
Or, as The Cominator suggests, a wave of lawsuits, audits, and investigations of the bankers.
Or, as the Babylon Bee suggests, the deal will be unhappened at three in the morning.
@jim
Nina (((Jankowicz))) can imprison Musk?
With what army? With what Air power? With what Space power?
Nina has no power without military superiority. And no Elon Musk, means no more military power for the USG.
They are making an error analogous to that of Mao in the great leap forward.
They think that Shaniqua can make them all the rockets they want if only Musk would get out of the way.
In the Iraq war it was revealed the American military technology was enormously ahead of Russia’s
US rocket capability has been steadily and rapidly becoming lost, while Russia under Putin has been successfully hanging onto, and modestly improving, their rocket capability – hence the NASA needed to hitch lifts to the space station on Russian rockets, and hence the US does not have hypersonic missiles, and Russia does. But most US military technology is still somewhat ahead of Russia’s, as was revealed in the Ukraine war. The F35 would be a considerably better plane than any Russian one, if it managed to get off the ground, which it usually cannot.
The Ukrainian anti tank and anti armored personnel measures are, however, successful far more to Turkish technology, rather than American, which is distinctly weird and surprising.
Musk has shown a complete lack of interest in hypersonic flight, which is today the application of rockets that is likely to be most critical for wars in the near future. However the capacity to launch a pile of stuff into space has revitalized the military spy satellite program. In the not very distant future, the rod from god will be the most important hypersonic weapon, which also requires the capability to lift a pile of stuff into space, but still requires the hypersonic flight capability, which is a part of the requirements in which Musk has zero interest. A Rod from God is just hypersonic missile in the mach 20 regime, rather than the mach 10 regime.
Musk’s work on Tesla AI is very relevant to drones. I am sure he could build drones that would wipe the floor with Turkish drones at a fraction of the cost, but again, he has shown no interest.
The Washcorpers hate technology made by whites with no understanding of military power. The uniformed military understands military power very well and I suspect Starman is right, they would not be happy without Musk’s ability to give them space superiority.
This is Nazi/militia para-military violence in Ukraine, not security state violence.
They can’t do the equivalent in the US, because no white nazis to draw from. The best they can do is send a mob of blacks and college students to burn your house down.
Exactly right. And if they tried that in the suburbs instead of their shitlib cities, they’d get obliterated, red state or blue state.
Observe the formerly white suburbs of Ferguson, what is left of them.
Were the Ferguson suburbs 60% black 20 years ago?
The wealthy lily white blue state suburbs have been getting scarier and scarier places for a long time, and they have suddenly become a lot scarier a lot faster. Lots of rich white Californians fleeing rich white beautiful California suburbs with beautiful scenery and beautiful climate, fleeing to nice red state suburbs where they reliably vote for the same policies as drove them out of California.
Were the suburbs sixty percent black twenty years ago?
In 2010, 4 year before the riots, Ferguson was already only 29% white and was 67% black. In 2020 6 years after the riots it was 72% black and 21% white.
In 2000 22 years ago Ferguson was 52% Black and 45% white. It was gone long before the big riots.
[*deleted for speaking with claimed but unsupported authority*]
Might well be true, but you have not earned the right to speak from the seat of Moses. You have to present evidence and argument.
I don’t remember what I said here. Good job.
Musk refusing to take down “Russian disinformation” in a hypothetical future state of war against Russia (or even with just the current murky in-between state of war that currently exists), could reasonably lead to his being imprisoned indefinitely, and I’m sure there’d be done things inflicted on him that the ACLU would call torture if done to a member of a protected class.
They’d order something taken down, he’d refuse, they’d attempt to force the issue, he’d resist and end up in jail for contempt of court. They wouldn’t sentence him to”indefinite time in jail, daily torture regimen”, he’d end up there waiting for a court date that will never come, or until he did something that robs him of his bargaining position. While he was in jail Congolese COs would beat the shit out of him and deny him medical care like they do to the Proud Boys in there now.
@Guy
They are not in a position to order Elon Musk around, not unless they want to have no more military superiority against Russia and China.
If meaningful free speech comes for twitter you will see a general campaign against Musk from the press and government.
He will be blamed every time someone with a twitter account does something bad as causing real world harm. The NYT etc will be running a non stop media campaign against him.
They may not be able to order him round now but they will be working towards that. In a way they already are with the Tesla lawsuit and SEC investigations.
Who cares about that? They only care about military superiority against Kentucky and Arkansas.
True, but Stalin made a huge mistake killing the Kulaks, later acknowledged when he advised Mao not to kill his best farmers, but he did it anyway despite it being a very stupid thing to do which seriously harmed Russia….
Stalin did not want to kill the kulaks, the mass of the Bolsheviks did and Stalin reluctantly went along.
I’ll take your word for it Cominator, but seems to indicate that Cromwell was a stronger ruler than Stalin…What use to be a ruthless tyrant if you have to go along with destructive craziness?
Stalin’s legitimacy, as leader of the party, rested on his popularity within the party. Thus he had to kill the kulaks because killing the Kulaks was popular. Same with Hitler and the Jews.
Stalin did not have anything close to absolute power until 1937 when he was able to extend the general purges (demanded by the mass of the Bolsheviks) to… the mass of the Bolsheviks. Then when they were gone and replaced with his people he really had close to absolute power…
Hitler’s initial 1935 moves to really start going after jews were indeed driven by Nazi party pressure (early on he wasn’t so fanatical on the issue)… but from 1938 on Hitler blamed the Jews for the fact that England and America were against him and he was from them on the driving force.
Cromwell had some very loyal soldiers he could prettymuch always count on… that made him strong.
Cromwell’s legitimacy never relied on a political party, only the military, which turned out to be a shaky thing when he was gone and tried to pass it on to his son who was not a warrior.
I don’t think this is true. He was a genuinely godly man, what Puritans imagined themselves to be and wished themselves to be. Unfortunately, since Godly men were getting the goodies, no end of superior godlyness ensued, full on nineteenth century and twentieth century post christian leftism, foreshadowing twenty first century leftism.
His foundation was the army though.
@starman: I think you’re correct that they shouldn’t order Musk around. I’m just assuming they’ll be stupid, or that they would rather lose a war with Russia and china than have themselves outflanked domestically.
Though I’m unsure of musk’s true motive, if he ends anonymity on Twitter it’s just going to neuter the platform before anyone can get any traction going after he eases up on the censorship. The idea that he’s doing this for”redgov” or an analogous faction seems most probable.
I agree. Fox News is unanimously supporting Musk’s purchase of Twitter. And as far as the military, I would still label them redgov, they are essentially the only institution not consumed by bluegov.
You ignore my position, and just sail right on presupposing agreement with your position.
I will let your posts through if you make a reasonable effort to argue against my position, rather than presupposing that everyone, including me, already agrees with your position.
Universities are religious organizations, always have been, always will be, and therefore should have no significant involvement in science, technology, nor in training people for production of value.
Their primary job has always been, and will always be, to provide cadre that can be relied upon to believe and uphold the official faith.
They should therefore recruit on the basis of both ability and virtue. And always have and always will. The trouble is that virtue is these days measured by how much dick you have taken up every orifice, how many evil capitalist shop windows you have smashed, and how many children of straight white middle class white couples you have beaten up.
In order to transmit the skills required to create value and higher technology, the men who are actually out in the field creating value and higher technology, not the professoriat, must transmit those skills to the younger generation. For which we need enforceable apprenticeship, to give those people in the field the power, the ability, and the economic incentive to transmit those skills.
https://www.unz.com/isteve/the-racial-reckoning-and-the-not-so-great-reset-come-for-letter-grades-in-college/
The article I made comments for was good. And “my” position isn’t just my position, but how I was reared and reflective of my society. Going to college to secure a career based on objective meritocracy, not to become a priest, was my culture. And it failed largely because [*not why it failed*]
I have been telling you, repetitiously and at great length, exactly why it failed, and you never respond.
The reason I keep silencing your stuff is that responding to it is like talking back to my television. I respond to you, because I sympathize with your plight, a plight that so others many suffer, but you never respond to me.
You fell for a ponzi scheme. The proper job of sovereign, state, society, and Church is not to fulfill other people’s ponzi schemes, but to tar and feather ponzi operators and run them out of town.
It was not conservatives or capitalists that took away your life. Academic grades are not only not objective merit that deserves value created by other people to be distributed to the holders of grades, they never were, never could be, and were never intended to be. It is not only not what university does. It is not what university could do or should do, not what university ever could be or should be. It is not what universities were ever intended to be, and anything you heard to the contrary was from scammers who wanted to take your money while pretending to give you an education.
You want to remake society so that the lies that evil people who hated you and intended you harm become true. They could never be true, and a society remade according to the lies of evil people would be an evil society.
An affluent lifestyle is not a reward that could be or should be distributed by the professoriat, and if a ruler attempted to make it so, no one could have an affluent lifestyle.
What you keep persistently calling “objective merit” is just paper issued by ponzi scammers. You have a claim against the scammers wealth, not against my wealth.
Paper issued by people who sincerely believe might well be indicative of something objective, depending on how sane the issuer is, but not indicative of a claim against value that I created. Paper issued by scammers is unlikely to be worth paying attention to, except to decide if the issuer of that paper needs to be dropped from a helicopter into the pacific, and to assess just how stupid the proud recipient of that worthless paper is.
There are some professors who sincerely believe in the value and significance of what they are teaching, and are apt to grade students on how well they can do it, but if your professor tells you it entitles you to a living, he is unlikely to believe that what he is teaching is true or meaningful. One lie, all lies. He goes through the motions of teaching, but makes no real effort to actually teach.
My explanation for how liberals march through institutions [*deleted*]
Your account is a grotesque inversion of reality, the official lie presented as a reactionary criticism of the official lie. You accept as fact, and presuppose that everyone, myself included, also accept as fact, all sorts of things about our present system that are outrageously false, and blithely go on straight ahead continuing to presuppose them no matter how many times I shoot them down.
I have let it through too many times, and have rebutted it too many times, and am not going to rebut it yet again.
Academia misallocating society’s goods is not the problem. Academia allocating society’s goods in any manner whatsoever is the problem. Academics should only allocate academic goodies, and academic goodies should be an entirely insignificant part of society’s goods. If they get to be gatekeepers to good jobs, the problems that we see inherently ensue, manifest in the deterioration of art, architecture, furniture, and workmanship.
Your account of how leftists march through the institutions presupposes it is a distributed and bottom up phenomenon. It is a top down phenomenon. For example corporate cancer starts with HR, and HR is a hostile branch of the state injected into the business office and paid for by the businessman, particularly if you have over fifty employees. Since Sarbanes Oxley, accounting is more of the same. The reason Musk wants to make Twitter a private company rather than a public company is to avoid being under the thumb of Sarbanes Oxley accountants.
Why symathise with someone who, instead of hating those responsible for his plight, hates and wants to harm those who escaped his plight? His plight is one those few instances where even the cynic has to admit that there is SOME justice in this world. Justice is served in the case of this ‘ere un-Gentleman.
May evil people forever keep falling into all into traps laid by evil people. May Good people and innocents keep escaping those traps.
It is hard to con an honest man. Most scammer spiels are designed to pull in those who expect to be the scammer, and instead find themselves the scammed. Where else would the free money the ponzi promises come from?
Bernie Madoff told his fellow Jews he was scamming the Goyim, but in the spirit of Jewish solidarity, he would let them join him in the scam for a small fee. Us Jews, he told his fellow Jews, have the right to enrich themselves at the expense of the Goy. Just about everyone, as far as I know, everyone, who was scammed by Madoff was Jewish.
It is hard not to sympathise with Anonymous Fake, having been through the Hindu experience. His line of reasoning is nigh-identical to that of the Legion of Merit that protested injustice in India in 1990. And that Rajiv Goswami became a martyr for. Turned out “merit” was a fake anti-concept intended to make us give up Dharma and lose its protection, after which we got rolled over by Moloch. Just like “Free Speech” becomes “Hate Speech” as soon as the Left gets into power.
I reluctantly came to agree with Sher Singh, that “religion” is a myth, caste is reality. You can choose not to “believe” in reality, but it makes no difference.
THat said, I’ve also come to believe “Anonymous Fake” is either a shill or an autist. Because his messaging is exactly on point to tug at the heart strings of someone who has not had the 1990 experience, like most Amerikaner.
But that fellow has no anger for those who put him in that position and all his ill feeling is directed towards those who escaped his plight. He wants others to be hurt the way he has been. He hates people who have escaped becoming victims of the Univ system. He wants people who have not hurt him in anyway to make good the promises made by people who have hurt him.
What sort of a person is this? How can you sympathize with someone like that?
AF’s thesis is a honeypot for neutralising disaffected priestly acolytes.
Let’s go over the steps of this Leftist game:
Step 1: Allege that the aristocrats are only on their positions because of “nepotism” and “unfairness,” and lack that magical ingredient called “merit” tht is necessary for occupying their exalted positions.
Step 2: Challenge the aristocrats to “prove” their “merit,” more likely the “merit” of their children, by submitting to a “level playing field” and “fair competition” against children of midwits and proles. This is actually brilliant because the elite are actually very bright, and unfortunately proud of it. They feel they can easily wipe the floor with these inferior “competitors” on a “level playing field.”
Step 3: Once elites have self-neutralised and their children have been incorporated into the Borg, only then reveal that the playing field was never “level” at all, and in fact the greatest virtue for these elite children is to suck midwit cock. Cue 1990s protests, because leftist “protest” is all these impotent ex-elite fools know how to do. This is the position of Amerikaner today, with even their lawsuits forced to hide behind “anti-Asian” discrimination. Let’s call this group of people “Group A.”
Step 4: (India is here) Elites become greatly demoralised and don’t reproduce, reducing competition for global/rootless elites, and one more Aryan civilisation, the last one still standing, starts to bite the dust.
There are two kinds of people who escape the Step 2-3 punch. One are VHIQ grand-strategists who see through the stratagem from the start and try to fight a rearguard action against it (which, being a rearguard action, is doomed to ultimate failure). My family has been doing this for four generations now, at great personal cost to ourselves. Even our reproduction rate has reduced to near zero, and we won’t last much longer. Let’s call this group of people “Group B.”
The other are low-midwits who simply keep on doing their family occupations and disregard priestly proclamations as something “Above their station.” This includes some Brahmins, but a lot of Vaishyas. Examples ranging from the local plumber to the Ambani clan. Mukesh Ambani never made any bones abount being a hard-core “Baniya.” Their fertility has also collapsed, but in the general collapse they have done very well materially. Let’s call this group of people “Group C.”
Now we see that there are a lot of apple carts around belonging to Group C, the Ambani/Adani/Bezos segment. Also there are a lot of disaffected acolytes in Group A, the “highly educated unemployed” segment. $CURRENT_YEAR Leftism consists of getting Group A to attack Group C and upset their apple carts for Great Justice. Anonymous Fake’s pitch is tailor-made for this. Either it is honest, in which case he’s an autist with a monomania, or a shill script.
Also note, nobody attacks Group B. I used to be mystified by this until I realised it’s because a frontal attack on us would go very, very badly for Leftism in general. We thrive on rhetoric and can leverage a small amount of political power towards a very large impact. So Leftists just make it difficult for elites to reproduce (in general) and wait for us to die out. A group in a similar predicament (but rather advanced in decay) is the Parsi community, the true heirs to Persia[1]. Nobody attacks Tata directly, but try to kill them by a thousand cuts.
[1] When Dharma is re-established in Bharat[2], I will help our Aryan brothers end their exile and return to rule Persia under cover of our nukes. A friendly Persia is key to a secure border on the Hindu-Kush.
[2] See? This is why we don’t get attacked. Such views gaining traction, any traction, has the potential to go very badly for Leftism and their Baphometan allies. Andrew Anglin learned this the hard way. The media has him on “blackout” because they’re afraid of what he might say.
Suones has made a thorough analysis of this “merit†phenomenon.
As the Dharmic right, we must understand that these modern concepts are traps and non-dharmic non-concepts.
It is similar to how leftists use fake concepts like “freedomâ€, “rights†and “liberalism†their leverage but the same weapons can never be wielded by the right against them.
Too bad that many on the right keep falling for these same tactics.
“Turned out “merit†was a fake anti-concept”
What the word actually names is real. But they did switcheroo about what they mean.
And of course substituted a fraud in its place.
If an incompetent noble is defeated by a competent general. Then “merit” did in its original word actually name what is true.
Subotai wasn’t a noble originally. But he appointed by “Merit” went on to be Genghis Khan’s best general.
How it is advertised:
How it actually turns out: The “incompetent” 5 year old Tsarevich and his sisters get killed by a bunch of Jewish degenerates.
How it should turn out: The upstart “general” gets crucified for treason against the noble, by his own men. If his men side with their general against their Lord, they are crucified together along the road leading to their former base (cf: Spartacus). Nobody should play Caesar but Caesar himself. Remember, High Treason is not only a grave crime, but a sin as well. Only if you succeed does it become a Triumph.
“Merit” is an Aryan concept only in as much as it means “deserts.” Which we all do get all the time. Pilpul “merit” means justifying killing the 5 year old Tsarevich because he had less “merit” than the 5 Jewish degenerates who shot him. The degenerates got what was coming to them, eventually. Stalin made sure of that. Live by the bullet, die by the bullet.
“Merit” has nothing to do with this. Recognition of talent and encouraging its propagation via good breeding is the reason “nobility” exists in the first place. So that elites can assortatively mate their children with children of other elites. New nobles get made after every war. This is how nobility gains legitimacy. Of course, most “nobles” tend to come from Warriors, for obvious reasons, with relatively few merchants.[1] Priests are supposed to shun pretentious titles. Subotai was a warrior, from a family of warriors, including his elder brother.[2] He had the fortune of having personal contact with The Great Khan who recognised his ability and tested him more and more, which tests Subotai passed with flying colours leading to his promotions in the Army.
This is how Nobility comes about in the first place If this is how you define “merit” than “meritocracy” is no different from the correct term — aristocracy. I fail to see any use of “merit” apart from creating confusion. Similarly to “Liberal.”
[1] If a society’s Nobility is not warrior-heavy, it is a sign of major problems.
[2] His father being a “blacksmith” — Iron Age “blacksmith” is an extremely high-status and revered profession, the King of all Trades. Blacksmithing has its own Patron God in Shri Vishwakarma. It was not unusual for retired or disabled warriors to turn to smithing. The reason we have lost Uccha Steel (“Wootz” steel in ignorant Mleccha-speak) is because our smiths are no longer spiritually attuned with Shri Vishwakarma.
@Suones
“”This is how Nobility comes about in the first place If this is how you define “merit†than “meritocracy†is no different from the correct term — aristocracy. I fail to see any use of “merit†apart from creating confusion. Similarly to “Liberal.—
What you say about Aristocracy is true. But I fail to see how it cannot be skinsuited the same way the word “Meritocracy” was. Rendered as meaningless as the word “Liberal”
“[1] If a society’s Nobility is not warrior-heavy, it is a sign of major problems.”
Chinese Aristocracy changed from Warrior Nobility to Bureaucracy selected by Written Exams.
Once their Warrior Aristocracy somehow got killed off. Which coincided with mass conscription and mass armies. Mass Crossbows and other measures the nullified the Chariot riding Warrior Aristocracy.
Even later in Chinese history we see instance at times of Excellent Warriors like Yue Fei get murdered because he was falsely accused of Treason by a jealous Bureaucrat.
Coincidentally many of the Enlightenment ideas are copied over from China. Including the use of Written exams to select an Elite. The results of which we see nowadays.
Everything you say, and more importantly, everything you presuppose and take for granted as universally accepted, is falsified by the schools teaching six year olds sexual transition, promptly followed by the state launching terrorism investigations of parents showing up at school board meetings.
You have made all these presuppositions and assertions far too many times, I have allowed them through and argued against them far too many times, and you ignore the arguments as if they had not been made, as if your presupposed facts were uncontroversial and universally accepted.
Meritocracy is fake, because it gives false hope and ultimate disappointment to Shaniqua that if she worked hard enough and passes sufficient priestly tests she would be better than the evil white male Engineer.
When that eventually and inevitably fails to uplift Shaniqua, the Left steps in to explain that the academic failure of Shaniqua is not due to her own fault, but due to evil mind rays of the “oppressive evil white male/Brahmin patriarchy”. And inevitably the Left proceeds to lower standards all around to accommodate Shaniqua in the rocket program and remove the “oppressors” from those positions.
If the Shaniquas performed their natural born role as a charwoman / janitor and judged as per standards of that profession, everybody including Shaniqua would be much more peaceful and contented.
@Dharmic Reality
Mutations and genetic variation happen. Sexual reproduction ensures that there is genetic shuffling. So one does occasionally get talented exceptions from not so gifted segments of society.
So there should be a discovery process to ensure those talents aren’t wasted in wrong professions.
@Dharmic Reality
Also read this about trickle down Eugenics that happened for a few centuries in Britain:
https://evoandproud.blogspot.com/2019/02/the-nurture-of-nature.html
A caste system hinders that. Even as it is very stable.
Reprising a relevant comment here:
“[Johann Gottlieb Fichte] was born in Rammenau, Upper Lusatia. The son of a ribbon weaver,[33] he came of peasant stock which had lived in the region for many generations. The family was noted in the neighborhood for its probity and piety. Christian Fichte, Johann Gottlieb’s father, married somewhat above his station. It has been suggested that a certain impatience which Fichte himself displayed throughout his life was an inheritance from his mother.[34]
“He received a rudimentary education from his father. He showed remarkable ability from an early age, and it was owing to his reputation among the villagers that he gained the opportunity for a better education than he otherwise would have received. The story runs that the Freiherr von Militz, a country landowner, arrived too late to hear the local pastor preach. He was, however, informed that a lad in the neighborhood would be able to repeat the sermon almost verbatim. As a result, the baron took Fichte into his protection and paid for his tuition.[34] ”
Whereupon in latter days, one’s progroid interlocutor would then segue the story into exhortations to give every bantu in the sub-saharan the opportunity to live in Peorea and go to Peoria U. on Peorian taxpayer dime.
But of course, the thing is, for one, trying to bend over to find edge cases is a pointless endeavor that does not pay dividends; you can find talent where you would expect to find it from observation of macro trends.
For another thing though, is that even if you *did* hold digging up edge cases as a cardinal value for some god-forsaken reason, the ‘human resources’ paradigm in fact *makes it even less likely to happen, anyways*.
A prominent man like the good von could not simply decide to sponsor a young man he found talented, they would have to go through ‘the proper channels’ first – which basically guarantee relegation to dead ends and a ton of loan debt for the trouble, unless he makes social contacts through the backdoor anyways.
The most effective judge for how talented someone may be at something, is the person in charge of that something to begin with. The power to hire and fire how you see fit is, after all, an essential ingredient of a real executive.
Every effort by leftists over the course of recent history to undermine this phenomena in particular, and dissolve all organic social bonds between folk in general, is basically means of increasing their power as a faction of pharisaicals; placing themselves as universal gatekeepers for who can or can’t become a member of ‘polite society’.
@i,
Varnashrama does give exception to rare cases of individuals capable of jumping from their birth varna to another, based on exceptional talents.
But such talents are exceptions and tend to shine out in any case.
If you couldn’t tell that school was a joke and a scam by 7th grade you only have yourself to blame. You were fooled. Happens to the best of us.
It’s a legitimate grievance, but life is full of legitimate grievances. Don’t let it keep you down.
[*deleted for missing, or evading, the point*]
What’d you major in? When I was in college, it was completely obvious to me and almost everyone I knew that unless you majored in stem or business/finance AND got a 3.5+ GPA, you basically had no job prospects. Only exceptions are if you have connections, are a minority or have 95th percentile interpersonal skills.
I think this meme he posted is even more interesting:
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1519735033950470144
Basically confirms the purity spiral – Cthulhu swims left.
And then there’s this one:
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1510435042694250499
Violent group cohesion trumps atomized virtue signaling. Fucking powerful. I can’t tell if it’s a dog whistle, but I’m definitely hearing something.
If anything, Musk is the best tweeter on there now that Trump is gone.
Faith, social cohesion, and collective action.
Does not look necessarily like a meme warrior rendition of this blog, but is clearly a meme warrior rendition of the Dark Enlightenment meme.
https://archive.ph/JP1pk
>> Elon Musk made a secret appearance to elite US Marines and gave a stirring speech
> Tesla CEO Elon Musk made a welcomed appearance at the 1st Marine Raider Battalion Ball and delivered a sobering speech that took many US Marines by surprise last Friday.
> The 1st Marine Raider Battalion out of Camp Pendleton, California, is comprised of elite Marines under the command of Marine Corps Special Operations Command (MARSOC), the Marine Corps’ expeditionary force that typically operates in austere conditions.
> Much like the secrecy of the Marine Raiders’ operations, Musk’s appearance at the event was closed to the press and kept low-key in order to “avoid a media frenzy,” the Marine Raider said.
> “He said, ‘I wanted to come and speak to this group,’ and I get the chills even saying it, ‘Because whenever there’s danger in the world, you all are the first to go and die.”
> Following the speech, Musk offered some lessons he’s learned throughout his career in the Silicon Valley. One particular lesson he reportedly said was to always question authority — a trait that could be seen as counterintuitive to the military’s doctrine of strict obedience.
Very interesting article from 2017. I wonder how much dark matter is floating around just like this. I remember digging a bit into that Douglass MacGregor colonel and he seemed to be doing similar enough, speaking at events such as this and in other more closed events.
Aslan raised his head and shook his mane. Instantly a glorious feast appeared on the Dwarfs’ knees: pies and tongues and pigeons and trifles and ices, and each Dwarf had a goblet of good wine in his right hand. But it wasn’t much use. They began eating and drinking greedily enough, but it was clear that they couldn’t taste it properly. They thought they were eating and drinking only the sort of things you might find in a stable. One said he was trying to eat hay and another said he had got a bit of an old turnip and a third said he’d found a raw cabbage leaf. And they raised golden goblets of rich red wine to their lips and said “Ugh! Fancy drinking dirty water out of a trough that a donkey’s been at! Never thought we’d come to this.†But very soon every Dwarf began suspecting that every other Dwarf had found something nicer than he had, and they started grabbing and snatching, and went on to quarreling, till in a few minutes there was a free fight and all the good food was smeared on their faces and clothes or trodden under foot. But when at last they sat down to nurse their black eyes and their bleeding noses, they all said:
“Well, at any rate there’s no Humbug here. We haven’t let anyone take us in. The Dwarfs are for the Dwarfs.â€
“You see,†said Aslan. “They will not let us help them. They have chosen cunning instead of belief. Their prison is only in their own minds, yet they are in that prison; and so afraid of being taken in that they cannot be taken out.â€
– C.S. Lewis, The Last Battle
Thousands of frogs have descended upon Twitter like a Biblical plague.
https://twitter.com/search?q=fren&src=typed_query&f=live
While your meme game is point, Jim, I’m going to take your predictions on what will happen to Musk with a grain of salt. After all, if we were where you predicted, Trump was supposed to have been arrested some time ago.
Jim’s predictions on Trump were all long shots as some of the mathematically inclined commentators pointed out. It was Jim taking a chance on the long shots. He got the 50-50 predictions right, 100% of the time which i think bored him.
I am not predicting Musk will be shot.
I predict his twitter game will be stymied, one way or another, and I notice his military buddies are facing an uphill struggle protecting his rockets.
I think your miscalculation here is that Musk is suffering from normalcy bias. He knows what’s at stake, as he saw what happened to South Africa. He knows what’s important, as he is pouring focus and capital in space and longevity tech. He knows what’s required, as he is attempting to take pieces off the board by either capturing or destroying Twitter.
I have much more faith in Musk’s capabilities than I ever had in Trump. Man is Smart. Love how he opines that we need more children, also that one liner he threw at his ex-wife: ‘I am the alpha in this relation.’
I want to say America is too fucked for one man to unfuck it, but who am I to be so definitively black pilled. If Musk can get Twitter, is a throw for US president out of the question? How much fun would that be…
Long shot, and Trump has a head start. And they both face the small problem that the vote was blatantly rigged last time, and will be blatantly rigged the next time.
Trump, Thiele, and Tucker have backed in the 2022 elections, among others JD Vance, who smells like an obvious enemy entryist. Enemy entryists bit him badly last time around. But, on the other hand, Trump having been burned, and Thiele being mighty smart, maybe they have information I do not revealing JD Vance to be a double agent. Lot of high level enemy entryists are double agents. But the trouble with double agents is that not only can you never be sure whose side they are really on, they themselves don’t know either.
JD Vance is not an entryist. Vance is a genuine smart disaffected Brahmin being converted to our side.
Mehmet Oz is far more suspicious.
Oz is establishment GOP Hannity type. Trump is attempting to keep one foot in the establishment GOP.
If Trump really were to do something epic and legendary, this is exactly how I would play it. Court the GOP establishment and run a dishonest campaign pretending I am playing ball (whilst also keeping my populist support as best as I can), and then after I got in, completely do a 180 on them like FDR.
Won’t work, they hate Trump (Hannity does not but Hannity is just kind of well intentioned but dumb).
Trump needs to be openly about destroying the establishment GOP. One of his big original sins was embracing them after getting elected.
The RINOs want to use him to win the majority in Congress and keep him neutered and non-god mode.
He needs to use them to get elected and then turn on them after winning.
JD grew up in Middletown OH in low status working class, and somehow was selected via Merit into elite class. question is which class does he truly belong and which class does he betray? I believe he will remain true to his roots as he is signaliing currently, but can “speak” brahmin.
He went to Harvard so he is first generation elite class, despite his white working class roots. However, he is betraying that class for his Amerikaner roots.
Well, Trump, Thiele, and probably Trump Junior think so, and they have, unlike me, spent some time with him.
But I would not trust him till I got drunk with him.
Trump doesn’t drink and I don’t think Don. Jr drinks (something I share bad family history of alcoholic tendencies)…
Andrew Anglin today on J.D.Vance.
https://www.unz.com/aanglin/alleged-populist-america-firster-jd-vance-wins-ohio-senate-primary/
The problem with Musk running for President.
1) Foreign born, laws and the cuckstition matter when the other side wants them to. Just not when they don’t.
2) He’d still have to unrig the voting.
I’m inclined to believe the US presidency is out of reach for anyone outside of the Uniparty. The establishment now has fortified against that possibility.
I’m also inclined to believe Secession is not out of reach if and when things continue to deteriorate. Musk being in Texas would be significant.
Exactly, Musk is the technical and tactical wizard, and doesn’t shy away from a fight…Whereas Trump is more like Pompey, weak in the clinches…De Santis puts it all together
I think it is unlikely that one man can sweep to power without some sort of cataclysm. More likely, there will be some kind of neo-triumvirate: Trump, Desantis, Musk. This is just a model based on current headline grabbers, I’m not stating categorically it’s these three. Theoretically, there needs to be a Merchant, a General, and a Priest.
The triumvirate will dismantle the clerical oligarchy, using their specialty and core followers. Then, one will be elevated, or they will fight for the position, or they will agree to split the country between themselves. But, we are also in the Info Epoch, so maybe the split could be more sophisticated: land, sea, and space.
I don’t think this will be some multi step plan that accounts for all factors. Rather, individual plans, ambitions, and existential necessity will inexorably generate a new status quo. After the fact, it will seem inevitable, like it was all planned out in advance. But in actuality, it will just be one step at a time.
If that is the Triumvariate than Trump will be the Lepidus of it…
The meme that we are ruled by the priesthood of an evil insane religion is penetrating.
If Caesar is an opponent of that religion we will purge them. That would be the best outcome. Sulla would have succeeded, had he not tried to animate a dead Republic, and Pinochet would have succeeded had he a live state religion.
But historically, the tendency is a left true believer makes himself Caesar, is outflanked on the left, and does something about that flanking movement. With no new applecarts to knock over, the faith of leftism dies, its madness and evil becomes obvious, and then overthrow becomes feasible.
In which case, we may well be in for a long haul.
The idea that Musk will run for president, or that a presidential election will rectify the situation, is normalcy bias. What is needed is parallelism. Alternative institutions that don’t explicitly threaten their mainstream counterparts. I think Musk is actually doing this already. Additionally, it doesn’t need to be one alternative to rule them all. It can be a corporate alternative to the national institution, a state alternative to the federal institution, a Christian alternative to a Science â„¢ institution.
Extrapolate the Info Epoch of warfare to governance, society, or faith. Less important are formal bodies and structures, as coordination over distributed networks obviates the need for them. If we edit out the fake and gay aspects of Twitter in reality, and look at it structurally, it is a pretty cool and useful tool. Consider how Trump used it to great effect. Under the Free Speech smokescreen, Musk could optimize Twitter into a distributed coordination network. He could then construct, discuss, and implement policy in broad daylight, with no need to involve or upset the clerical oligarchy. Polls could be set up to point out obvious truths, which would get people acting on the same page. There’s already a sophisticated methodology for memeplex propagation via Tweet screenshots.
Just as 20th century war tactics are not working, 20th century political tactics would be nearly powerless in the face of Info Epoch political action. CNN+ was the object lesson for all of the alts-; our enemies are destroyed by being ignored, not by being opposed or countered.
If your going to build parallel institutions your going to need a priest, a faith, and firepower. Otherwise you’ll be overrun with entryists before you really do much of anything. Without them you may as well stay underground.
In this scenario, De Santis is Caesar Augustus, Trump is Anthony, and Musk is Lepidus, who doesn’t really want to rule…
Parallel institutions exist for all those things. They lack status, and there’s a lack of coordination capacity between them.
Any organization that is not explicitly connected to FedGov, or implicitly connected by its members to FedGov, are by definition parallel institutions.
American Town A has a police force. They have badges, guns, and uniforms. Any group could get badges, guns, and uniforms, but they wouldn’t become a competing force until they were coordinated. If they coordinated in time of peace and ease, they’d be ruthlessly suppressed and punished. If they coordinated in a time of crisis, they’d be deputized.
Outside and above the formal vestiges of “just force applicators,” the role of police forces is to hold and maintain the monopoly of violence in a given region to maintain the stable bandit. A uniformed sheriff’s department can accomplish this so long as everyone ignores the numerical inferiority and assumes the consequences of disregard will be swift and certain. Normalcy. In abnormal times, any group, uniformed or not, sworn or not, armed or not, can act as a constabulary, as Just Force Applicators, if they are coordinated.
I think the coordination part is the problem, the parallel institutions are there, they’re just invisible to power or suppressed.
If you want to be high status, going to have to make somebody low status, or be able to give someone something they cannot get elsewhere. Your argument sounds a lot like my Q friends that constantly tell me about Trumps shadow government, “Patriots in control!â€. Your low status parallel is irrelevant, until you make someone else, preferably someone high status, low status.
For Christians to cohere and coordinate, need legal authority or plausibly legal authority. Blatant illegality is not going to fly, so that should be kept in mind.
>For Christians to cohere and coordinate, need legal authority or plausibly legal authority.
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm…
Remember Romans 13.
Parallel institutions in the US are infiltrated immediately.
Incorrect through lack of contact with reality. As usual.
Do you have an example? Preferably an institution dominated by straight white males, and no demon worshipping?
In my rural area, the vet community and their sycophants maintain a number of institutions that provide services in parallel with state and federal programs.
The local Tea Party recently began parallel operations for disaster response and emergency services.
The Orthodox community in the region offers parallel services to member families when vaxx requirements started to appear (the vaxx BS is gone, but the services remain).
Homesteaders have maintained a robust parallel network for training, fabrication, tools, supplies, and support for a while, but due to a spike in interest and involvement, certain corporations like Kubota and Cummins and others have begun tailoring their marketing towards said community. This may be hostile entry, but it remains to be seen if it’s permanent entry or just surfing a trend.
Homeschooling has greatly expanded, and within that community are many layers of parallel institutions. Some are easy to enter and provide very little, others require recorded affirmations of Christian faith and provide large amount of support.
This is just in a general region with which I am familiar. The fibrous layer of community interaction that gets little attention and none of it positive is a seed crystal for multi-community coordination. Coordination between parallel institutions is something worth considering, as opposed to some magical leftist warrior general biding his time in Gaul.
I don’t understand the charge of Q-tardy. Parallel institutions are not a conspiracy theory, they’re ubiquitous in societies with underclasses, outsiders, and suppressed but not extirpated ideologies.
You have a point. I was thinking more of low status groups that are claiming to be high status, such as the Q stuff. Still have to overcome being low status, or wait for the left to completely devour itself and everyone else.
Once any of those parallels become a threat to globohomo they have to withstand entryists, not to mention double agents already within. Passivism is the right strategy right now but those groups need support from the top or they will stay more or less irrelevant.
Ok, I see what you mean now. Your point on status stands. The groups I mentioned, and the scores of other groups strewn throughout the rural areas and exurbs, are low status in the same way that a woman who married her first lay at 17 and is raising their 5 kids while keeping home & garden is low status, namely, artificial status suppression.
Passivism is step 001. Disengaging from uniparty political theater is critical, but is not in itself sufficient. Reengagement in healthy and productive political enterprise is the next step, or set of steps. This doesn’t mean forming some third rail, rather channeling and strengthening political inclination and energy towards valuable goals. The Friend/Enemy distinction is a simple and powerful way to Become Worthy. Mothers teaching their children to be good subjects and loyal friends, fathers teaching them to submit to God and Good, and to be deadly to enemies. Pastors instructing their flocks to turn the cheek once, to walk the extra mile, then to turn, plant, and shove. Political leaders living the example of loving thy neighbor at home and guarding against strangers 1000 miles away. Community leaders demonstrating the act of knowing people by their fruits.
These are all things alternative institutions can do, and indeed (in some cases) are doing. Homeschooling is maybe the most powerful tool for spreading Jimian Christianity, because it engages and indoctrinates the young, supports the parents, and knits communities together on shared values. Again, it comes back to Friend/Enemy. Just getting Amerikaners to consciously and subconsciously sort everyone they encounter into one of these groups by default would be a massively productive step.
Homeschooling local charities and DIY do not in my opinion rise to the organizational level of institutions.
This is partially a failure of imagination on your part, but I think it is also because these are academic constructs for you, things that exist but aren’t real. If you got involved with some of these things, you might be surprised at the organizational potential contained therein.
I’m not peddling magic bullets. These groups are insular and hyperfocused by inclination and design, narrow and deep. This means they need to be retasked to some degree, but it also makes them less of a target for Entryistsâ„¢ at the moment. So part of retasking would be educating them about and operationalizing against entryism.
There’s another issue, far more critical: female membership. For some things, female members is a complete nonstarter. But other things, particularly anything to do with child rearing, gardening, or homemaking, are DOA without female participation. This means the wives of B&R’d men. This is obviously a challenge for this crowd due to the unmarried guys having no resources to contribute. But it’s also long term benefit, because no single demographic in existence is better at identifying and attacking “enemies” than securely married women with their status at stake. Some churches seem to have very healthy and proactive “knitting circles” that identify and expel entryists, but it’s critical that they are firmly submitted wives, or it just becomes an exploit for the Pozz.
Truly, the Woman Question is the core issue on pretty much every front.
I’m not saying the infiltration is total but it is reality… every institution whether supposedly opposition or just parallel in the US is infiltrated.
Every single alternative parallel to the cathedral is full of double agents. Every one that has women in it, gays in it, or Jews/minorities in it. Have to have a leader at the top, a sovereign to restore order.
Anglicanism from 1660 to 1820 was the environment in which science flourished. Official science is now the enemy of science.
Red pilled Christianity, which accepts evolutionary psychology and evolutionary game theory as an earthly implication of the divine logos, is a naturally favorable environment for science. Eve was indeed made as a helpmeet for Adam.
> In which case, we may well be in for a long haul.
Might be a rough haul, but there’s no need for it to be a long haul, nor is it likely to be, for the simple reason that our current situation is unsustainable for much longer.
Having looked into the rusbote matter, it sees like what happened was less that the systems failed, and more like they were not even active in the first place.
Whether that’s complacency, lack of training, dysfunctional selection mechanism(s) for competent personnel on the business end of things, lack of institutional knowledge in the contemporary russian navy for how to maintain alertness without being at general quarters all the time, pick your favorite flavors.
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Suones, you make a bunch of controversial claims and presuppositions in this comment without evidence or explanation, one of which:
Can trivially be found to be false, and is deliberate or grossly negligent misinformation.
Putting you on moderation for misinformation. You will be taken off moderation if you make more effort to check and support your claims.
Your comments about Christianity and God, which I have allowed through, reveal a profound ignorance of Christianity. I let them through because you kept referring to “Judeo Christianity”, which is a foolish and evil heresy wildly contrary to two millennia of Christian doctrine based directly on the new testament, but I now realize you are taking at face value the Jews claim to still be the chosen people, as if Christians believed it.
They were the chosen people, and Jesus unambiguously asserted that they were chosen from Abraham till his forthcoming death, but that their sins would lead to their expulsion, and that upon crucifying him, they would cease to be the chosen people. God’s covenant is now with the Christian church, due to repeated and increasingly massive violations of that covenant by the Jews. This comes directly from the mouth of Jesus, and has been standard orthodox Christian doctrine for two millennia. All Jews are cursed for deicide, a hereditary curse on the bloodline, and can only escape the curse by accepting Christ. It is right there in the bible.
And of course, so is the policy that the priesthood should be recruited from virtuous and successful married men with well behaved children, like Peter and James, but ditching the Christian position on Jews is more recent than ditching the Christian position on priests.
Jim, if that is misinformation, it is not deliberate. Suones latest post provides links to his claims on Putin’s Mosque/Church paradox, https://homeoftheoldgods.wordpress.com/2022/05/04/something-is-cooking-in-rus/
Are you saying ocregister and orthodox times are spreading fake news?
I duckduckgo Putin Opening Cathedral, and pile of images come up of Putin at the opening of the Cathedral.
And if Suones is Jimmy’s source, and Jimmy had cited Suones, I would not have come down on Jimmy.
And if Suones had posted that in this blog, would have come down on Suones.
The reason I demand evidence and argument is precisely to prevent misinformation being spread through an echo chamber. We should be better men than our enemies.
Suones is posting what appears to be shit, shit which is helpful to our enemies. I suspect motivated reasoning. He passionately detests Christianity. He and I agree that an old faith will rule, and we disagree about which old faith should rule.
Christianity is seemingly dead, but clearly resurrecting. It is very good at that. Suone’s faith is long dead, very long dead, and because he is reluctant to purge the demons, going to stay dead. He needs to direct his wrath against enemies within.
We demand a Hindu India – Bharatavarsha. An orthodox Christian Russia that respects and recognizes Hindu character and religion of India is sufficient for us. Putin doesn’t give us lectures on religious tolerance and protection of minorities. The West does.
Suones has expressed views in the past supportive of Westphalian peace and the jimian Christian position.
I do admit that we are instinctively suspicious of Christianity but that doesn’t imply that Westphalian peace should not be possible.
Except for clear crimes like human sacrifice and other destructive demonic cultish nonsense. I am for that as well.
Last thing I like is that the state imposing that religion by the sword even if said religion is true.
Because it only results in false converts. And helps to contribute to long term problems with those wearing skinsuits aside from infiltrators.
And I would rather they be open opponents than false brethren.
In much the same manner as serpent Christ, traditional Hindu faith has problems with demon worshippers.
That negates the old Hindu dharma in exact same manner that serpent Christ propagated by the Vatican negates orthodox Christianity.
The difference is only in timeline.
There is no meaningful difference between tearing out the hearts of POWs by Aztecs, and cutting the throats of POWs by Al-Qaeda e.a.
OCRegister and OrthodoxTimes are both Polygon outlets who for various financial or ideological reasons are biased against Russia and the Russian Orthodox Church.
The former news source cites Natalia Zubarevich, a Polygon-affiliated academic who openly supported the 2020 Belarusian color revolution, clarifying how the building of mosques coincides with state-guided redirected hatred for Ukrainians. If only the evil Russians did not hate Muslims for no reason there would be more mosques!
OrthodoxTimes is affiliated with the Greek Orthodox Church and the converged Ecumenical Patriarchate. The following articles criticize the Russian church for not adequately bowing to the Covid demon:
https://orthodoxtimes.com/russian-church-we-do-not-need-inspections-we-observe-all-necessary-sanitary-measures/
https://orthodoxtimes.com/monasteries-of-the-russian-church-in-ukraine-ignore-measures-against-coronavirus/
The article below, aside from various other problematic elements within, uses the war in Ukraine as a bludgeon against the Russian Orthodox Church in favor of the schismatic Ukrainian church:
https://orthodoxtimes.com/bartholomew-what-is-happening-in-ukraine-is-a-disgrace-that-will-stigmatize-for-ever-those-who-caused-it/
It is clear that OrthodoxTimes spreads misinformation in its agenda against the Russian Orthodox Church. It is regrettable that it ends up on this blog.
Thanks Neo, I had no idea.
May it be so. As soon as possible, please. The far left have destroyed so many apple carts already. They are literally vermin and need to be exterminated if our home is to remain standing.
Indeed.
ExileStyle mentioned Ron Desantis might be the guy to stop the holiness spiral in the last post. Looking at his Wikipedia entry he was a Lieutenant Commander in the Navy, served in the Gulf War, and got a bunch of medals. Also he went to Harvard and Yale. So he has the makings of a warrior priest. If a guy like that found a faith, and made friends with Musk, that would be encouraging.
As has been pointed out many times, he was a JAG lawyer. He’s no warrior.
The best thing for DeSantis to do is force the Cathedral to escalate the tyranny to a point where secession starts becoming a serious talking point. I think we are still a ways away from that yet.
Lawyers are members of the priestly class, but being an army lawyer hints at the possibility of DeSantis being a Paladin, a warrior priest.
Though the real warrior priest class is Military Intelligence. Military lawyers tend to be very much enemies.
DeSantis does not look much like a paladin to me, but, comes the hour, comes the man. We may well see what he is made of in a little while. Some of our enemies are saying he is more dangerous than Trump. I pray they are correct.
Trump cucked out on Covid. DeSantis did not. There is steel there. Likely we will see by and by. Constantine, Stalin and Caesar were warrior priests. It is a good starting point to become Caesar.
I have serious doubts that he is any of the above.
What he is though, is a fantastic conservative. And when his fantastic conservative measures to conserve the Republic still fail to produce a receding leftward tide, the Republic will be more thoroughly discredited.
And when the Republic is finally and thoroughly discredited to the most cucked of the Cuckservatives, secession will become an option.
He said just last Friday he was going to make Florida an open carry state, no permit needed. If he can make it happen that is very much stopping and reversing the leftist tide. If he can do it for the 2nd amendment he can do it for others.
Florida was one of the first states to introduce ‘Shall Issue’ CCW—which meant at the time, if you had no criminal record and you weren’t involuntarily committed, it was issued to you. They even cut the fee for it in half after a few years. Katherine Harris was the Secretary of State at the time—her explanation was, get this
It wasn’t costing as much to administrate the CCW program as had been anticipated, so they lowered the price to pass on the savings to the People.
Open carry, no permit isn’t really much of a delta in Florida. But it’s a good spike of the football.
DeSantis did cuck initially (the only governor who had a perfect record on this is the woman Noem and I’d love to know the details of that…) but uncucked himself more quickly and repented of his mistake and seemed to be born again hard…
>Lawyers are members of the priestly class
No kidding. Where have I heard this before?
Secession is regime change complete, so it won’t be necessary or advisable if and when it becomes possible. It is just a talking point. Red states are almost as comped and converted into the regnant ideology as blue states, though unlike blue states (with the exception of good programmers) do have a lot of productive capital.
If you read many earnings calls last year, no end of companies complained about the troubles caused by the loss of power for a few days in Texas. Whereas I suspect only insurance companies noticed the destruction caused by Hurricane Sandy.
Secession and then what? It would work if DeSantis
Secession and then what? It would work if DeSantis could make it that good men could find good wives and raise obedient children in Florida. But he cannot promise that. So what can he possibly give that a Georgia that remains cannot — under the tyranny and violence of the Federal government?
The aesthetics of successful defiance and separation from the Cathedral would be significant. A huge number of military age males would move to Florida just to be a part of the adventure.
And how would he get the fertile-aged females to move to the now extremely low status state (as it would surely be lambasted by every legacy media outlet, social media, politician, etc)? Florida would have to depict itself as a lawless and dangerous place where women are apt to be abducted on a whim by all of those military-aged men. I seriously doubt it would do that itself; it’s more likely the Cathedral would own-goal it.
Of course those men could be used to field an army, but such an army would have to be used before those men are no longer of fighting age.
Florida is never going to be a low status state. Not to women anyway. For 6 months out of the year it’s paradise. The other 6 months are hot, but it’s still nice on the beach.
“Florida would have to depict itself as a lawless and dangerous place where women are apt to be abducted on a whim by all of those military-aged men.“
It is already kind of like this. If Desantis were to eliminate no-fault divorce, that would be a good first step. That, and criminalizing abortion.
Not seeing any signs of that or a will.
DeSantis is doing a tremendous job of attempting to bring us back to 2019 leftism. Well, 2019 leftism is not going to fly for successful healthy reproduction. For that, we are going to need to go back to something like 1646 leftism.
Trump wanted to go back to 1980s Reagan leftism. Akin to Nazi Hitler KKK.
DeSantis also wanted 1980s leftism…
Trump’s Wall was extreme radically right 1980s leftism that every Republican in 2016, including DeSantis, was unwilling to support before Trump ran on it.
Yeah honestly I don’t expect much from Desantis on the the woman problem or immigration. We will see what happens if and when the left attacks him from those positions.
The fundamental flaw in the Trump, DeSantis, and Don Junior strategy is “vote harder, it worked so well last time”
Pushing slightly less leftism is a strategy that has sustained lots of conservative grifters in the past. Normality bias is that it will continue to work, which is what conservatives are betting on in the 2022 elections. I have a couple of bets riding on whether it will work in 2022.
Illegal immigrants avoided Florida at least until a few months ago when Biden started dumping them en masse here on secret flights and busses.
The 2020 fortification against Trump required considerable anti-Trump GOP complicity to pull off. Trump’s strategy is to get Trump allies elected into GOP positions that will make a steal in 2024 tougher. Could just be normality bias. Hard to predict what will happen.
You go with the leader you have, not the leader you want.
And the leader we have is pursuing a course I think suicidally foolish and likely to get a whole lot of good people burned.
He failed to cross the Rubicon last time, and is now having another go at measures that do not involve crossing the Rubicon.
Still, I was wrong about how disastrous his previous failure to cross the Rubicon would be. So we shall see.
It may take three failures of short-of-Rubicon measures before people realize elections are over.
And by people you of course mean the conservative elite. Clearly, the conservative elite have not given up on the idea of the Republic. They are going to need some more evidence to the contrary.
So now we are worried about engaging women? Pick a fucking lane, you beta. If you build it (the Alpha State), they will cum.
Poetry.
Buddy I said in the comment you are replying to that he’d have to build (and project) the alpha state in the first place, and implied that would never happen. Did you completely miss that part of my post?
Even without institutionalized patriarchy, a militarily active state full of violent young men swinging their balls around is a better environment for reproduction than the current one, by far. All the state has to do at first is turn a blind eye to the actions military men take to police their wives’ behavior, and if you have a war to win, a sane state will know it is better to turn a blind eye.
Secession is regime change. Its legal authority is backed by the individual state legislatures and there is precedent. Red states, particularly in the deep south, are not comped and converted as blue states. Christianity lives in the Deep South of the Churches of the unsubjugated Southern Anglo.
Civlil War and Holy War. Except this time the unifying belief will not be “States Rights” or the “Southern Cause” or some other such nonsense.
It will be Christ and the Cross painted on every shield with authority backed by god to slay the heretical demon worshippers.
“In hoc signo vinces”
Anything but this is certain loss again to the heretics.
The next “civil war” will be a hundred different wars between suburb/rural and urban.
Florida had 20 million people in 2018 and DeSantis only beat a tranny-loving black drug addict by 30,000 votes.
Florida has a lot of internal cleansing to do. So does Texas, and Georgia, and North Carolina, and …
But then the fraud machine in Florida was shut down and Trump won it by 3% (and I’m not even sure where the leftists in Florida are there are so few around here)…
DeSantis is likely to win reelection by 15-20%… which still means there are a lot of leftists out there in Florida that the helicopters and the flames hunger for… but barring the feds enforcing fraud in the future its become a pretty safe red state.
Universities
It is obvious that in an honest election DeSantis wins by 15-20%
The courts, have however, ruled honest elections unconstitutional. This is still being litigated, but is likely to encounter the same brick wall as litigation against the 2020 steal.
They do not have power on the ground in Florida anymore… DeSantis runs Florida the way Huey Long ran Louisana…
So no votin Florida will be rigged.
Democrats rely heavily on local on-the-ground vote rigging machinery, which can be disabled by the means that DeSantis can and does apply. But there has been a move towards radical centralization of election stealing, as there has been a move towards radical centralization of everything, which is prefigured by judicial rulings against free and fair elections in Florida. This is likely to come to a head, as Sheriff Joe’s efforts to enforce immigration law came to a head.
I would be utterly shocked if DeSantis does not win Florida.
The more interesting thing about DeSantis is if he runs against Trump in 2024. There seems to a pretty strong Con Inc. faction linked to McConnell that wants DeSantis to knock off Trump in the primary.
McConnell wants Desantis and Trump to split votes so they can sneak a RINO in…
Both of them are very much aware of this.
DeSantis is younger than Trump, and loves power. I believe his plan is eight years governor, followed by eight years of president. Which plan would require Trump to become president. He is not in a hurry. There is much he wants to do, and doing it will take a while.
But, if this is his plan, why does he not come straight out and say “Trump for president, I will not run against Trump”
Possibly because he and Trump want their enemies to pursue an incorrect strategy, more likely because he is competing with Trump and Don Junior for leadership of the right.
In the runup to the 2020 election, Trump was betting on the federalist society, which stabbed him the back. Should have bet on the militia. Failed to do so. Trump and DeSantis have to address election fraud in order to become president, and they have to face the reality that Sheriff Joe faced: That the written law is illegal. Free and fair elections are illegal, like borders and marriage.
I all my life have faced the reality that marriage is illegal. One of my many acts of illegality that I have gotten away with. They are going to need that mindset.
Nah Turtle head is too smart for that. He knows its DeSantis or Trump and he is quietly backing DeSantis.
> But, if this is his plan, why does he not come straight out and say “Trump for president, I will not run against Trumpâ€
DeSantis is term-limited after 2026. More importantly, DeSantis knows Trump is an unpopular pussy, which would make all Republicans toxic in 2028 after another four years of Trump in the White House. It’s much, much smarter for DeSantis to run in 2024 as a popular and competent sitting governor than to wait around for 2028 or 2032.
> Possibly because he and Trump want their enemies to pursue an incorrect strategy, more likely because he is competing with Trump and Don Junior for leadership of the right.
DeSantis is competing with Trump, but not Don Junior. Don Junior is dumb and lacks charisma. He’s dating Gavin Newsom’s sloppy seconds. Total cuck.
Putting you on moderation for saying with great confidence things utterly absurd without explanation, argument, or evidence. The overwhelming majority of live American voters voted for Trump in 2020, and the turnout at his rallies is gigantic, while no one shows up to see Biden.
Don Junior is brilliant. Dumb people are unable to perceive his brilliance, (Dunbar effect), but everyone can see his charisma. When he is on stage his charisma lights up the stage, and causes the politicians he is attempting to promote to be shadowed.
You guys were gloating how when he appeared on stage with DeSantis to promote DeSantis, DeSantis faded to an also ran, because everyone was looking at Don Junior.
Trump’s charisma lights up the crowd, and the apple does not fall far from the tree. Don Junior walks in his father’s footsteps.
DeSantis has a vastly better understanding of how power works than Trump and Don Junior, but Trump and Don Junior have charisma almost like Hitler’s
But the time of mass politics is ending, and so the time for mass charisma is ending. In the end, the man with the best understanding of Information Epoch warfare will be the last man standing. Which happens to be Trump, but he fished in the Rubicon instead of crossing it.
> Putting you on moderation …
You put me on moderation three or four months ago for pointing out that your hero Trump is still out there pushing the clot shots.
You censor more truths than Twitter. You’re turning your blog into a joke.
I don’t censor truths and I don’t censor untruths. I censor illegitimate methods of debate
I did not put you on moderation for speaking truths, but for speaking obvious lies without explanation or evidence. Yes, Trump’s position on the clot shots is stupid and dangerous. But many of your other claims, for example the claim that Trump is unpopular, that Don Junior lacks charisma, are obviously false.
I demand that everyone produce evidence and explanation for claims that are likely to be doubted, whether I believe those claims or not, and I demand that they make relevant response to the points raised by those who disagree, rather than sailing right ahead as if there was universal acceptance of the self evident truth of those claims.
Realistically, we are probably decades from any sort of serious secession. Maybe 30 years. DeSantis will be long gone by then.
But if you’ll allow me dream for a moment, Christian secession would look like this:
1.) State legislatures create Conventions of Delegates which vote to secede.
2.) New Christian Confederacy dissolves federal authority and confiscates all federal property.
3.) Explicit state religion is some form of Protestant Confessional Christianity. All priests, including all R1 professors, must explicitly swear on the official Confession of Faith. All of those of the previous priesthood who cannot are burned alive at the stake.
4.) Immediate invasion of rest of the continental US in holy crusade.
I was going to write that this would never work out because “secession” is a bad plan with a proven-failed track record. But then I read point no. 4. At which point I humbly propose that you move #4 to #1, which makes the remaining points unnecessary.
#4 is the only thing that matters. Harvard isn’t going to let you have half a country. Harvard isn’t going to let you have 5 villages. When the Kauravas denied the Pandavas even their request for 5 villages, that was the point when the seeds for the Mahabharata were laid. You must do unto Harvard before Harvard does unto you. If Davis and Lee read and understood the Bhagvad Gita, they would not have seceded but conquered Washington first, and Harvard later. But they were operating under Leftism 0.5 — the Constitution of the “United States,” which had been deemed horribly outmoded by Harvard by the 1840s, but news hadn’t reached Davis and Lee yet.
Indeed. From the viewpoint of Tradition, the ultimate reason for the defeat of the confederacy was that they did not believe they had a God given duty, right, and privilege to rule over their northern neighbors, while said neighbors of course possessed such a sentiment vis-a-vis the south in spades.
I guess this is what is called a “Will to Power”, the belief that you can and should rule. I don’t think even the Pandavas had it. Not even Lord Rama had it. Maybe Vikramaditya (Our King Arthur) had it. Don’t know.
Extremely hard sentiment to gain and hold on to. Oh Lord! Now wonder it is so rare.
0.5? Rule by algorithm, constitutionalism, certainly is full on leftism.
Need a base of operations to organize first before launching holy war, but realistically all of this would need happen somewhat simultaneously to be successful.
How many governments have satellites in orbit that they themselves launched? Why don’t countries shoot down each other’s satellites with another satellite? Would it be too obvious who did it or is it not technologically feasible yet?
There’s been a very hushed up orbital game of maneuver between US, Russia, and China for a while now. Each side attempts to get their own satellite close to the other’s without being detected.
Shooting satellites down is a “solved” problem inasmuch as there are rockets purpose built for that mission. But it is “old” tech and there may be more modern countermeasures.
I think it is avoided because of how trivial it would be to make L/M/HEO untenable for satellites of any type. There’s the whole Kessler Syndrome thing, as well as the regular complicated arrangement already in place without having to deal with hunter-killer sats wrecking peaceful/utility constellations.
Tube fired microsats with ram accelerators to boost them into orbit can be used to put up whole constellations of comms, ISR, or kinetic kill vehicles in a matter of months on demand; and since launching a payload to orbit is also basically a means of ‘storing’ the energy of the shot indefinitely, it can also be used as a means of intercepting any targets of non-trivial size on demand: be it ICBMs, glide vehicles, ships, Larry Fink’s house… in minecraft.
Of course, even in a time of war, planners would probably be hesitant to trap all of humanity on the globe behind a cloud of wildly milling space debris; though i imagine if anyone would be the first to decide this is an ‘acceptable sacrifice’, it would be bluetribesmen who don’t care about their neighbors in general or space in particular anyways – ‘we have problems here on earth’.
Looks like the Supreme Court is planning to overturn Roe v Wade, and the left is spazzing out about it. Leaking the decision is, according to the lawyers I follow, a massive breach of legal etiquette. Trying to get a justice killed so they can prevent the abortion issues going to the states is a theory I have heard.
I find this surprising, and am unable to fit into my model of the world. So either my model is very badly flawed and in need of radical revision, or things are not what they seem. We shall see.
Ultrasound with motion and theedee showing that babies in the womb are mentally human at sixteen weeks, while at the same time the left pushes abortion to a few minutes after birth, have made Roe versus Wade, abortion at female whim, untenable – but the Cathedral has no end of untenable positions which are rapidly getting more and more extreme. Abortion is currently a demonic sacrament, and demonic sacraments, once permitted, tend become not merely permitted, but compulsory.
So, taking the constitutionally correct position, that abortion is a state matter, would be rather strange.
Alternate theory, more consistent with my world model: The left believe abortion is enormously popular and are trying to activate their base. “Reproductive rights were saved by just one vote on the supreme court. You have to do whatever it takes to keep the Republicans out of office”
Could just be that the conservative justices were suffering normality bias, and thought that the constitutionally correct thing would be acceptable. The leak is more escalation and abnormal behavior, and a mob is outside the Supreme Court building right now. Sounds like the preparations were in place, so the leak was coordinated with media and police ready to do their parts. Possibly a justice or two either folds under threats of mob violence, or is folded by the mob if they do not appear to be folding on their own. No decision yet, so we should wait to see how it shakes out.
That sounds very plausible. Lefties in the court know how the majority of judges wants to decide. So they leak the draft decision in order to get it changed before it is official.
The reasoning of the opinion is airtight and more or less obvious, and it’s 98 pages long…When I was in law school, even those supporting the Roe result pretty much agreed that the opinion in Roe was horse shit….Nor do I see Alito allowing himself to be used…The rent-a-mob is pretty standard for the left, and Justice Amy is extremely hard-core anti-abortion…So I think if the Court backs away from this, it will cause massive conflicts in the Court, and make it generally a laughingstock, and probably won’t happen…
I think it’s your alternate theory. It gives some cover for when they rig midterms. “Republicans lost because abortion is so incredibly popular. Didn’t you see those protests on TV?”
I have also seen leftists online saying the supreme court no longer has validity as a result of McConnell lol. The court should be ignored, and can’t be trusted until it can be repaired. Maybe they want to pack the courts?
The Judeo-christian position of course is a total, and I mean TOTAL, ban. That is not the jimian position on infanticide, and also unacceptable to normies.
“Infanticide” is a Jewish anti-concept adopted by Romans to justify their war against Carthage, which later contributed to be their undoing. Jewish weapons are best left to be wielded by Jews alone. For goyim they’re like the gun that fires on both ends at once.
The correct Aryan position is euthanasia.
PS: Judeo-Christian 😂
Even the Israelites were “hypocritical” on this issue, genociding non-Israelite children as well.
Oog en Hand
For reasons of preventing religious contamination. Or because of resource scarcity.
Its about giving the spoils of war to God:
https://www.arcaneknowledge.org/catholic/cherem.htm
““Infanticide†is a Jewish anti-concept adopted by Romans to justify their war against Carthage, which later contributed to be their undoing.”
Its just another form of murder. Sacrilege in regards to life as God alone as the right to treat human life as he pleases. Its simply an extension of the “Image of God” that imbues Mankind with the Dignity that comes with being God’s representatives on Earth.
Only War, Self-defense and Judicial Punishment is authorized in taking life.
As for Eugenics. One needs only look at the Black Death as possibly an example by divine decree:
“Scientists long believed that the Black Death killed indiscriminately. But DeWitte’s previous research found the plague was like many sicknesses: It preferentially killed the very old and those already in poor health.
That discovery raised the question of whether the plague acted as a “force of selection, by targeting frail people,” DeWitte said. If people’s susceptibility to the plague was somehow genetic — perhaps they had weaker immune systems, or other health problems with a genetic basis — then those who survived might pass along stronger genes to their children, resulting in a hardier post-plague population.”
https://www.livescience.com/9561-black-death-selective.html
“God alone as the right to treat human life as he pleases”
Moloch? Odin? Allah? Tengri?
Do we need a Holy War against Yahweh, Abomination of the Israelites?
“Moloch? Odin? Allah? Tengri?
Do we need a Holy War against Yahweh, Abomination of the Israelites?”
The entities Moloch, Odin Allah and Tengri depend on “Yahweh” for their very existence.
Because “Yahweh” is actually “THE EXISTENCE” summed up by his name: “I AM” when Moses asked his name he said: “I AM THAT I AM”.
Tell me how finite “God’s” can defeat the self-existent infinite basis of all existence?
@Oog en Hand
You are also discounting the very Being of God. Infinite Goodness, Truth, Beauty himself.
But also Justice, Mercy and all the excellencies.
Hence whatever pleases him always corresponds to this.
They don’t think they can rig the house races and they would prefer cover to rig the Senate so they want left wing cunts to turnout over an emotional issue…
So the traitors Kav and Roberts were ordered to vote to overturn… IF this is true. Barrett is a hardcore operation rescue type… though GOPe otherwise so no pressure needed.
The Court is just doing what should have been done the first time…saying it’s not a Constitutional issue and should be decided by each State politically…
What they want to do is (a) federalize abortion law and (b) delegitimize the Court.
(a) Sanders and Warren are already calling for an end to the filibuster to enshrine abortion in federal law: https://twitter.com/SenSanders/status/1521303260933541890. This would allow them to put rogue red states back in their place, and make the United States a Holy Temple of Abortion.
(b) Delegitimization is the bigger game. They do not even need to bother packing the Court. They simply point to this “radical” and “insane” and “hateful” decision and say that the Court has already de facto lost legitimacy, and ignore it from then on. This removes a persistently agitating road block to their plans.
How this unfolds is something to watch very closely. American political institutions could start rapidly dissolving before our very eyes, in a way that is obvious to everyone left and right. Abortion is one of those issues – like slavery – that are metaphysical in nature to both sides and thus start real and not just proxy Holy Wars.
While the Right has been winning a lot lately, this issue in particular means Holy War to the Left way more than Trannyism or Gay Paradism ever did. It is important to more people across a broader spectrum of society and not just symbolically.
I’d actually say this adds confirmation Jim’s underlying model, and makes his 2026 timeline *more* and not less likely. The Left will burn down the whole house to be able to continue their blood sacrifices, and this is one rare issue where the Republican Party is actually uniform in their resistance and orthodoxy. Republicans may hem and haw and dabble woman questions or race questions but they are evangelical hardliners on the baby-killing question. Both parties have been purged of compromise on this one issue. That creates the conditions for Holy War.
The model of the left for centuries has been that of a tide not a linear pattern. It crashes on shore causing chaos then recedes a little giving one the feeling the worst is over (yet ground is still gained) until the next wave comes.
Roe Wade was a massive wave that crashed prematurely on the shore line. Not surprised to see that wave recede only for it to come back in a much more escalatory way in the form of packing the courts or something.
This is likely just the next news cycle, the next “current thing” for NPCs to virtue signal about. It’s likely that this “decision” was made for the sole purpose of getting leaked, in order to manufacture public outrage at the “unwillingness” of the regime to update their stance on abortion to the officially unofficial stance on abortion – ie it being a “human right”. Which is obviously ridiculous, as the regime position on abortion is the officially unofficial one.
However a key part of the leftist worldview is their underdog delusion, they live in a world that caters to their demonic whims, but they still rage at imagined oppression.
This “leak”, as with all news cycles, is going to serve a political goal – as you have pointed out, its likely the beginning of an anti-Republican narrative that legitimizes the desired end result of midterm elections – a landslide Dem victory probably. I could be getting some details wrong, since not American, but I think the general idea is sound – this is a manufactured crisis that spurs the public into outrage and protests, similar to 2020s BLM protests, with the goal of demonstrating the left’s cultural hegemony. No such decision is actually going to be made, nor was it ever going to.
Agree. This makes the most sense to me.
I don’t know if I believe what I’m going to write, but I’ll make the argument because I think it’s interesting.
What if abortion has served its purpose, and the Left is willing to sacrifice it on the altar of the larger battle:
1) Abortion meant to separate women from the authority of church and husband
Women are now “empowered”; mission accomplished.
2) Abortion meant to encourage licentious sex
Licentious sex between men and women is no longer a Leftist value; instead they want to emasculate men, promote homosexuality, transexuality, and so on. If women stop having sex with men out of fear of pregnancy, and instead become lesbians or whatnot, that’s mission accomplished.
3) Abortion meant to reduce population growth
Based on our birth rate, reducing population growth has been quite successful. But now that the Left has lost the white working class, they need blacks more than ever; and blacks abort the most. So make it illegal, create lots more blacks, increase the welfare army and make America more diverse.
As for why now? Two more reasons:
4) Democrat base is demoralized and discouraged. There’s enormous problems in the country. Manufacture a crisis to remobilize the disaffected Blue voters and pin all the old hate on the Right.
5) Several fulcrum points in play – packing Supreme Court, eliminating filibuster, etc. – that this could sharply effect.
Desired outcome:
A) Renewed enthusiasm for Leftist voters
B) Justification for increasing federal power
C) Red state autonomy seems very threatening, use “A” and “B” to crack down on burgeoning movements to strengthen states; federalize abortion, ban state militias, etc etc
D) Possibly spark a crisis, because crisises are useful to those with power
You make a good point that merely wanting abortion rights is to the right of the current year leftists. I’m inclined to think this is a product of leftist incompetence and failing to cooperate and either not seeing it coming or no longer investing in the issue, having moved much further left.
Agreed on all points, except for one…
Women do not care about consequences of sex when horny… though they may take steps to prevent themselves from getting horny with most men because of this. Obviously Roberts and Kav were ordered by the left to okay this…
Roberts is against it. The decision is Thomas, Alito, Gorsuch, Kavanaugh, and Barret in the majority, with Alito writing it.
If Thomas is on it, the decision is not some convoluted left wing plot to create an issue for the coming elections. I am puzzled and confused. I do not understand what is happening. This contrary to my predictions and expectations.
Why is this contrary to your predictions? It is not contrary to my predictions. The role of conservatives since the founding of Harvard is to apply the brakes into left wing insanity. Sometimes this means mild receding of the tide. Overturning Roe v Wade is a mild receding of the tide.
Abortion is not stopping. It will continue in the blue states. Blue areas of red states will likely just ignore the decision like they ignore laws on CRT and election fraud. Eventually the left will either over turn this decision (if it goes through) or pack the court or legislate the right to kill one’s own child.
“Overturning Roe v Wade is a mild receding of the tide.â€
Mild? Fucking mild?! Are you out of your fucking mind? Abortion is one of the holiest sacraments to the left.
Sometimes you make good comments but plainly you forgot to wash the pesticide off the weed before you smoked it today.
Overturning Roe Vs. Wade – if that’s about to happen – would be going up to the most holy religious figure of the left and punching him in the mouth, on camera. It would be saying to the left, “We are picking a fight with you. What are you going to do about it?â€
If it’s real, and not just some set-piece, it’s not “mild.†It’s breathtaking.
It means roadtrips if that and as far as any house races that might not be rigged otherwise… increased turnout among npcs.
Here’s one reason to think the Roe v. Wade thing is legit and not just some piece of political kayfabe:
After the Russia/Ukraine thing started to get stale, the Next Big Thing that we were all supposed to get in a tizzy about was Musk’s takeover of Twitter. But the wheels had just barely begun to spin on the propaganda machinery on that before it was hip-checked off the front pages by the RvW leak. This suggests that the leak was not planned by the left, but actually was exactly what it was purported to be, some green-haired law clerk going rogue.
Symbolically and religiously, sure it’s a big deal. Roe v Wade is something of a religious idol for the Feminist cult/tenet of the state religion. Akin to pulling down the largest Statue of Venus in Rome, which explains why we are seeing the hysterical freakout by women in particular.
Practically speaking, the states most likely to ban abortion outright already make it difficult to get one and states that readily allow abortion now certainly won’t outlaw it. Not much will actually change.
Yarvin’s Law: Will overturning Roe v Wade make victories for the right easier or harder in the future?
“Symbolically and religiously, sure it’s a big deal.â€
This. It’s going up to the left’s communion wine chalice and urinating in it right in front of the entire congregation. It’s a bold, deliberate provocation. The reactions from the left that I’ve read so far have been surprisingly muted, compared to what I was expecting – I think that’s because they’re actually numb with shock.
Maybe Aslan’s arrived on the field?
Thomas and Alito of course want to repeal it…
But Kav and Roberts may have been ordered to vote for repeal on the basis to help the left hold onto the house.
Among the elites that can still cooperate, perhaps the abortion issue is irrelevant, at least as far as this very small step is concerned. We are a long ways from making women property again.
Does this really affect the great reset? Is this really some huge victory? Most states will not criminalize abortion. Even if they do, if we have been saying for some time laws no longer matter. Will there actually be a drop in abortions, and an increase in the fertility rate?
I don’t see this as much of anything, other than the right managing to land a good punch at the end of a fight they are losing. If this matters, the powers that be will soon make sure it does not.
I hate to be so negative about it but did anything really change?
Yes I agree. And the end of the day, nothingburger.
Lord spare me from sharing a foxhole with you or Pooch.
Have to call a spade a spade. No sense in sugar coating it.
This is not a defeat for us. Really this has nothing to do with us, as we are not in the business of reanimating dead tissue.
How so. This is the Republic attempting to go on after Trump as if nothing has changed, and stumbling into trouble. Normalcy bias is going to get one of the Supreme Court justices killed. You have said that predicting across a sanity or intelligence gap is very hard. What about a normalcy gap? I think this is what this is. It in not some secret plan, it is people who think that they can go back to normal and are about to get mugged by reality.
Considering Alito’s opinion dates from February, it is likely that the Polygon held onto this “leak” until the Russia-Ukraine War become boring.
It is not in the nature of holiness spirals to “sacrifice holiness;†as the singularity accelerates its adherents become increasingly unable to compromise.
The Left is understandably upset because Roe being stuck down is a blow to their moral legitimacy. Conservatives have a tendency to idolize the fifties as a period of traditional values, but it was common practice for silents to send their teenage slut daughters to Sweden or Canada for abortions. The purpose of Roe was not about giving legal but moral legitimacy to the Left not only for abortion but also the feminist project in general. Without abortion it is impossible to send women to college and have women participate in historically-male professions.
The more sane Left may allow this to pass to give the appearance of normalcy, but this was certainly not planned by them rather taken advantage of.
Why?
They would keep getting pregnant. Duh!
Yes of course. Stupid question.
Although most Western women are on the pill now rendering abortions moot. I suppose the very few that forget to take it might need an abortion, but then again they just take Plan B.
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/products/databriefs/db327.htm
~65% of women use some form of contraception according to CDC… But we don’t trust their numbers, right? Or only when it supports our assertions?
CDC?
Hell no. When have I relied on anything whatsoever from CDC?
Though it is quite likely that eighty five percent of women use some form of contraception when they a are sleeping with their husbands and respectable boyfriends. But when they have an exciting romantic adventure, it is apt to slip their minds somewhow.
What’s the percentage of men that wouldn’t dare get a woman pregnant?
Pretty large, and it is going to get a whole lot larger if the paternal responsibility act is passed, which makes a father into a slave for life of any woman he gets pregnant.
Considering every other sexual “decision” made by women is made unconsciously, it is certain that forgetting to take their pill is also an unconscious decision made when they wind up getting fucked by an alpha enough man.
In my own experience, far fewer than 13% of women 20-29 have IUDs. Those fuckers hurt the penis a lot and are very noticeable. And way more than 12% are on the pill (or say they are).
Kind of a side note but a good way to tell if a woman sees you as alpha enough is how she talks about kids. She will often bring up the subject. She will talk about how much she love kids, can’t wait to have kids, etc. They go on and on and on. It follows their state of arousal.
Ten minutes later talking to some normal guy they are suddenly pro-choice.
Overturning Roe won’t stop abortions it will mean most women inclined to get them will have to take a road trip now and then.
Making women take a road trip is sacrilege against demons.
Historically male professions, whether at a law firm, at an engineering company, or in the symphony orchestra, require years if not decades of training as an adult in order to reach competency. For a woman, this means spending all of her fertile years studying, i.e. whoring, for a historically-male position.
Most men in my lineage married at around thirty even as far back as five hundred years ago while most women married at around eighteen. Considering that until recently puberty in European women hit at around seventeen this was not unreasonable.
“The Left is understandably upset because Roe being stuck down is a blow to their moral legitimacy.”
They’d be upset because it would be a blow to their power.
The point of abortion as a political issue is simply to manufacture us vs them mentality.
The vast majority of people are sympathetic to women, either, being poor, or having no choice, or being abused, or whatever – its almost a human universal.
Abortion really hits a lot of these issues all at once, you can pick your lever with peoples heart strings.
Note that abstinence is seen as an actual joke of a solution by almost literally everyone “Don’t want to get pregnant? Don’t have sex”.
People have literally laughed in my face when I have said this before. So we need abortion because women are entitled to sex whenever they want it without consequence? And, the answer invariably, is yes, because “men have it”.
I digress.
Your option 4) is correct. The entire thing is manufactured (it doesn’t even matter if republicans are voted in or out of government since they’re the same party) to demonise republicans (as a proxy for “conservative” judges) and allow the courts to be stuffed with people who will put into law further restrictions on people.
A real judge is someone who, in my opinion, can understand and inhabit the perspectives of warrior, priest and merchant.
Stuff the courts with priests. That’s the goal, because priests will approve policies that benefit merchants.
What is so surprising? Trump filled the court with conservatives who oppose abortion, and destroying the SC has been on the lefts agenda for quite a while. The surprising thing would be if both violence and legal means, court packing, fail to break the courts authority.
I think Aidan has the right of it. The right-wing of the court sees the opportunity to get rid of Roe v Wade, and is taking it. Normality bias is preventing them from seeing that any attempt to do so is going to be met with force. Hence, the leak of the decision before it is published. This is the left making subtle threats. If the right-wing justices fail to heed those threats, they will rapidly become less subtle. Killing a Supreme Court justice is an escalation, but it is in line with the previous escalations. Normalcy will prevail, believe the right-wing judges, before some lunatic shoots them or a mob beats them to death.
Makes sense to me too.
Kind of funny in how different of a headspace these people must be. We’re in here, going on about civil war preparations and whatnot, and there they are, thinking: ‘aha, now we can finally strike back as ye old GOP! Take that you democrat rapscalions!’
Yeah. I have been talking to some normies, and it is amazing how out of touch they are. They are talking about the Russo-Ukrainian War like it was Russia that was the aggressor and that we should contain Russia. That it was good to use Ukrainian soldiers and American weapons to kill Russians and that nothing bad would come of it. They are convinced that next election will see the Republicans sweep the Congress and that Trump will be elected in 2024. The past two years just never happened in their perspective. It is wild to see.
Kav and Roberts are leftists posing as centrists. They had their orders if they did this…
Yes makes a lot of sense.
I find it hard to believe that the supreme court didn’t have enough principles, normality bias, balls, etc during the election steal and ruled against Trump, but now they have enough of those things to think they can get away with banishing one of the most sacred demons in the progressive faith.
“Conservatives” truly are disgusting if so.
Speaking as a Constitutional lawyer who has participated in two winning cases in the Court, Alito’s draft is a masterpiece…I don’t see how it can be improved, so the Court majority just needs to stick to their guns, and the leak may actually help..I’m sure the Justices, apart from the Latina and Kagan, are furious at this breach of custom and etiquette…
Legislating from the bench has been a default approach to governance for the last 100 years or so, rule by lawyer priesthood.
Case law in general and ‘judicial review’ in particular is an obvious fulcrum point for the exercise of sovereignty, neatly side-stepping the clumsy political theater of that whole mobocracy business, so the point is getting guys who will makes decisions you want, and packing them into places where they can make decisions you want. This is simply an example of Trump, to a limited degree, having played that game himself.
I considered the fact that Trump filled the SC with a majority of more right leaning folk – for all as far as that goes – to be one of the most significant things he accomplished, in long term effect. A man keeps his head down while alone, and is pulled away; while men are emboldened by numbers, and pulled further along.
Of course the first thing to understand about the game of 20th century governance (which we are, as yet, still living under), is to never let your counterparts play with the same tactics you yourself are using. You legislating from the bench is simply a matter of course, ‘consequence-based jurisprudence’, which decision are quickly cemented into permanence by the bureaucracies, staffed by people who all graduated from the same colleges. Your rivals legislating from the bench, on the other hand, is of course ‘gross oversteps of separation of powers’, ‘cynical politicization’, et cetera et cetera, and any decisions will be frustrated by slow-rolling and malicious compliance, once the message from your preachers in the news outlets, who all graduated from the same colleges, is sent out.
In the long view of history you might say things like ‘the courts of the 20th century whig regime never legislate to the right’, which can be broadly true; but the reason it can be broadly true is not because it never literally happens, but that when it *does* happen that a court legislates to the right, broader elements of the system at large mobilize to neutralize it, one way or another. The ‘leak’ of the draft decision in the abortion case is an example of this kind of skulduggery; escalating measures to slap down other players from trying to play the same game as you.
Like the very day after Ghost of Kiev is officially confirmed to be bullshit.
Russia Man Bad Kill Kill Kill might be running out of gas, so they need something else to get the outrage back.
Others here suggested that it’s to delegitimize the Supreme Court, and therefore Lawz and Sheeit in general, and that holds a lot of water too.
I don’t see delegitimize the Supreme Court as a goal. Courts, lawyers, the DOJ, and all that faggotry is a sacred institution for The Cathedral, being their primary religious law enforcement mechanism. There is no higher prestige than being a Harvard lawyer.
They view the Supreme Court as being controlled by hostile racist fascist oppressive forces of white supremacy that must be won back at all costs.
Maybe the decision never actually gets made due to intimidation or maybe it does and they simply pack the court. I personally hope for packing the court as this would be a massive escalation.
“Must slut.”
“Must kill babies.”
“Must pack court.”
“Must rig Senate.”
“Must fortify Senate elections.”
Makes a lot of sense.
“I don’t see delegitimize the Supreme Court as a goal. Courts, lawyers, the DOJ, and all that faggotry is a sacred institution”
They will delegitimize it for a decade or two while it’s still (somewhat) conservative-leaning. The court and the justices will be mocked on late-night TV and any pronouncement by the court will be greeted by gales of derisive shitlib laughter, as they did every time Trump spoke on any issue.
Then as soon as 6 or 7 justices are non-white reliable hard leftists they will go back to treating the SC as sacred again.
They will pack it before that. The black robes are where Harvard displays its religious authority. Courts are the enforcement mechanism of the state religion. They will just as soon as pack the Court then delegitimize its religious authority.
Ignoring courts will be the game of Caesar, not Harvard.
> “I don’t see delegitimize the Supreme Court as a goal.”
Front page of the web NYT (05/03/2022, 10pm):
“Analysis: The leak of the draft opinion suggests an internal disarray at the Supreme Court, a blow to its legitimacy.”
I assume it’s just going to stay there. Wouldn’t want to take it to open sea now would we … I would also assume Fijian officials are more exposed than GAE officials.
He should have gone to the Solomons. They’re somewhat tight with China I understand.
The funny thing about all these Russian oligarchs is they basically just liberals with no strong loyalty to Putin which is why they hang out in GAE territory so much.
They basically deserve what’s happening to them. Ronin!
I know that covid demon worship is on the wane, but some recent news from India:
https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/coronavirus-no-one-can-be-forced-to-get-vaccinated-says-supreme-court-adds-current-vaccine-policy-cant-be-said-to-be-unreasonable-2938319
India’s Supreme Court has ruled against vax mandate. A bit late I would say and mostly symbolic.
Don’t know, DR. They are again getting excited about Covid here. Now there is talk of not travelling due to Covid. Looks like they don’t want to give up the excitement that Covid brings.
In my case, while covid demon worhsip has been waning a lot, nevertheless the worship still exists.
My state government are not backing down the emergency protocol so they could resume lockdown as “needed”. Women are still wearing masks in public spaces. PCR and covid pass are still valid travel requirement.
Covid demon are not dead, we are just getting too overwhelmed by war and inflation demon right now.
It is no longer active enthusiastic worship but more like going through the motions. There is some leftover momentum from earlier covid worship and that has evaporated quickly in India.
From what I observed nobody even pretends to care much about covid any more.
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As if men and women did not play opposite and complementary roles in reproduction, and pursue very different and frequently conflicting strategies.
It is true that due to different reproductive strategies, legal, approved and affordable abortions primarily benefit whores, and men who are willing to invest their own strength in children suffer. Abortions only add “negotiating” power to women, and it is already too high in modern conditions. Therefore, it is necessary to oppose abortion and bypass women who are pro-abortion.
By the way, Russia is still one of the world leaders in the destruction of children through abortion. According to the law of this Christian country, Russian taxpayers sponsor free “termination of pregnancy.”
Abortion in Russia is restricted to the first 12 weeks of pregnancy and requires a mandatory waiting period.
The superior femininity of Russian women is likely the result of relying on abortion, rather than the pill. Steady estrogen levels have a masculinizing effect on woman, who are feminized not so much by estrogen levels, as by large variations in their estrogen level. Giving the pill to very young girls has major and alarming consequences for their physical development.
Nothing prevents us from banning abortions and contraceptive pills at the same time … I agree that there is not enough talk about the dangers of pills for women’s health.
Control over socially acceptable contraception should be in the hands of men.
Absolutely
Somalis rely on abortion almost exclusively.
Do we know if abortions benefits whores? Whoring has been present since biblical times and long before before. Prior to advances in abortion technologies and Christianity, infanticide was commonly practiced. Old Christianity put a lid on infanticide and abortion. Whores continued to exist. It’s safe to conclude that significant number of children were the results of whoring. Whore reproduced successfully.
Personality is a reflection of genetics. Disposition to whoring is therefore likely genetically based. We’ve seen the birth rates collapse the most in the populations having the most predisposition to whoring.
Modern society started with the sexual revolution in the 1960s which brought out all the whore into polite society. Average number of lifetime sexual partners exploded from around 1.5 to 10+. Unfortunately some normal people do get subsumed by the more prominent whore culture, but subsequent generations has been down trending significantly in life time sexual partners. Whore behavior seems to be increasingly contained to a smaller and smaller percentage of the population, although their proclivities continue to become more outrageous and public by the day.
Being around whores has become increasingly dangerous for men. Sexual morality may not have changed for the better, but men of means are becoming more and more prudish and sexually selective against whores. Whereas a whore in the 60s may have just given a man a STD, a whore today is a major legal liability.
Old Christianity managed to make inherently sexually dysfunctional people behave like normal people. Current Christianity no longer dictates proper behavior and the dysfunction are now able to indulge in their dysfunctions.
Could it be that easy access to abortions and similar contraceptive technologies over the long run will cause whore genes to slowly die out?
Whores at least subconsciously like getting pregnant sometimes (most strippers have kids, they almost never are on the pill) but they’ve always had means of birth control if inclined to use it.
Strippers sound pretty based by your accounts. Personally I’d rather spend time with an honest prostitute than a dishonest “trad girlâ€.
Plenty of frigid scammers among them but you learn to screen them out pretty quickly…
Feynman shared my fondness for some of the women of that profession.
How many States have had interactions with strippers? What’s the distribution of urban v. other establishments?
How many states have i had interactions with them…
Mass Rhode Island and Florida… Rhode Island used to be awesome in this regard.
Other than Rhode Island clubs in the middle of nowhere tend to be better. Also times other than friday and saturday nights tend to be better… one drawback nowadays is many play really awful modern nigger music fairly loud.
“Personality is a reflection of genetics. Disposition to whoring is therefore likely genetically based.â€
I suspect the main driver of this for women is beauty. Perhaps it is my own bias, but I see a lot of 30+ women who were obviously 8s and 9s that have no kids. Spiritually, beauty is a curse. A curse on the woman and on the man who owns her (or fails to). Pretty girls have options, and men are weaker around them.
I would love to see the fertility rate and divorce rate of 5-7s vs. 8-9s.
I am weaker around them.
Nature gives women more power than men, for a man can merely kill you, while a woman can make you immortal, and power makes it hard for women to reproduce. For successful reproduction, we have to force women to stick with, and to honor and obey, the first man she has sex with, and put fathers under pressure to ensure that daughters do not have unsupervised contact with men it would be impractical or unwise to stick with, honor, and obey. Also, of course, shut down whore schools, which require mandatory unsupervised contact with men who are not yet in a position where it would be practical for a woman to stick with him.
For successful reproduction, men have to conspire together to socially and legally reverse the natural power imbalance between men and women.
Yes I framed it incorrectly.
So how do you deal with a really beautiful girl? Are they just too dangerous?
I have laid some really beautiful girls, but they are hard to keep. In part because it is hard to hold frame.
Same. When you are worried about losing them, you will lose them. When you don’t particularly care if they stay or leave one way or another, they stick on you like glue.
Red Pill Game lingo we call this “abundance mentality”. It’s hard to fake. You are either abundant in sexual options or you aren’t and it takes particular time and effort to reach a point of abundance in beautiful women.
My biggest problem is the orbiters. Constantly re-fueling them for a fight. I swear if I have kids with another hot chick I am going to beat every man who dares to talk to her without my permission. I never once had a problem with another guy I thought my wife would sleep with.
Ah yes that too. Lifting weights and getting bigger is a requirement, not a recommendation, in that respect. Not only to attract a beautiful woman, but also to intimidate any men who would think of encroaching on your ownership of her.
If you want to keep a really hot woman, what I suggest is once you sleep with her spend as much time with her as you can, with every interaction foreplay leading to sex. Screw her 500 times in the first year. Everywhere you go. Pull over on the side of the road if you have to. Make the biggest emotional impact on her that you can. Dominate her life. Isolate her from friends and family as much as you can.
Maybe this is obvious and what you are trying to do anyway. If not, try doing it deliberately. This is more or less the natural way that young guys follow that end up marrying their high school sweetheart.
Harder to do later in life with responsibilities, but this is the bond that you want.
My experience is that any type of even moderately clingy behavior with a beautiful girl gets you jettisoned quickly, regardless if you’ve just fucked her brains out.
In fact, I had better results with the complete opposite. Waiting 2 weeks to text her to meet up again for instance.
Clingy implies an emotional dependence. Definitely do not want that. If your alpha and have some kind of life she is going to want to be in it as much as possible. So just keep making plans to see her. Don’t be afraid to meet her family etc. Take her everywhere. Assume now she is just “yours†and start acting like it. Get her invested in a future with you. If she is somewhat normal/healthy and wants kids this should all be fairly natural.
Obviously don’t jump head first with just anyone but if you have experience with women and one of them stands out as better than the rest you just got to go for it.
“So just keep making plans to see her. Don’t be afraid to meet her family etc. Take her everywhere.”
This is not good advice. It smacks not of experience, but of a priori theorizing. Go out and interact with actual women in the actual real world.
I am speaking from experience. Look up “love bombingâ€. It is dark triad behavior. You want to create the biggest emotional impact that you can… it will create a dependency.
Love bombing is a thing that dark-triad women can use on men. (E.g. I heard that Yoko Ono – dunno if she’s dark triad but whatever – used it on John Lennon.) If a man tries to use it on a woman, the way you described it, it just makes her perceive him as clingy.
Also, you said, “Isolate her from friends and family as much as you can.†But then you contradicted it with “Don’t be afraid to meet her family etc.â€
Yeah this is like Red Pill game 101.
When you “love bomb” a beautiful girl, you are just emulating the million other clingy beta ex-boyfriends she has had who she broke up with. That’s a sure fire way to lose.
The idea is to separate yourself from the betas by being alpha.
“OMG every other guy I’ve gone on a date with texts me the next day asking when we can meet up again. This guy has the nerve to wait 2 weeks! What a jerk! What’s his deal?!”
Needy implies trying to get her to do something she doesn’t want to do. If she is into you, if she gets her feels from seeing you, she’s going to make it real easy for you. When you ask “what are you doing tomorrow?†She’s going to say “I’m working until 5 but I’m free after that.†And you say “ok let’s do xyz.†Nothing needy.
Too much of the manosphere implies a lack of attraction on the part of the female. Which is the case a lot. But that’s your job to overcome.
If she’s into you make the biggest emotional impact you can and and then step by step make her life revolve around yours. Yes meet her family if your thinking she’s wife material. Lots of feelings there, social proof, etc. eventually as her life revolves around yours isolate her more. You don’t have to get crazy about it but you come first.
This is all completely irrelevant with reactionary Christian marriage. But until that returns you have to do it yourself and dominate her feelings, because you cannot physically restrain her.
Getting her life to revolve around yours is cooperate/cooperate. Yes this should be the goal as soon as is feasibly possible.
But in today’s environment, as Jim often says, must necessarily start in defect/defect, which means playing the game of players and bitches.
We need to make sure that they do not.
We need to make sure that children are only successfully produced by biological male headed families.
Notice that all currently existent populations are descended from people who made sure that whores did not reproduce successfully. If whores can reproduce successfully, this gives women far too much power, making it hard for all women to reproduce. Hence my cheeful support for quiet infanticide of bastards, and my total opposition to a woman’s “right to choose”. She has a right to choose not to hang out with Jeremy Meeks, and to refrain from wandering off to places where General Buck Naked is apt to find her, and if she chooses otherwise, should suffer bad consequences.
Not in the slightest, because women keep making “mistakes”. The typical welfare mother has more children than the elite, and the working man and soldier has the least children of all.
Jim, what do you think of the ideas of spaying whores? Less blood than when killing bastards, more guarantees that the whore will not leave offspring that will create problems in the future. You can also optionally add a brand on the face that speaks of her eternal shame and which deprives her of the right to be a wife.
This will raise the status of marriage, lower the status of whoredom and the absence of children.
Seems like a waste of good pussy. Late eighteenth century, early nineteenth century Australia enjoyed one hundred percent success, literally one hundred percent in the sense of not one failure, in turning whores into virtuous wives. A few good humiliating public whippings suffice. The authorities passed the shit test, and empowered husbands to pass the shit test, and the shit test evaporated.
Any solution, including sterilization and branding, where the whore goes right on whoring means that someone has failed the shit test. If State, Church, society, and family fail the shit test, women will perceive the men of state, church, society, and family as weak men in a weak tribe, and will proceed to act in a way that in the ancestral environment would have been resulted in them being abducted by strong men in a strong tribe.
An idle thought-experiment occurs of the notion of a ‘voluntary’ spaying as predicate for entry into a whore corps; would likely result in a significant effect on the mean female constitution of the reference population after a few generations of such selective assortion.
Though of course, such a situation would raise the question of several implications of framing that it would entail.
Strippers (who are not explicitly whores but most of them are whores) are far more likely to marry out of their profession than say female lawyers… so perhaps some mandatory birth control when they are working with check.
Nah. The solution applied late eighteenth century early nineteenth century Australia worked with scarcely a ripple. Why revisit working code?
Albeit is is more urgent to marry off the lawyerettes than the whores.
Nah. Reversible female birth control means irreversible damnation.
Sterilize the feminists not the whores.
What else is there to say? You simply can’t let women have a free pass to whoredom, they’ll take it every time.
Whether that’s simply compelling them to not be whores, ontologically demoting would-be whores them from fecund human to self-aware onahole, or some combination thereof.
Attractive fatherless girls will take the pass and if they avoid drugs will marry out, girls of family will have an arranged marriage young.
Hey Jim, I’ve heard you mention this about Australia a few times. Do you know any good books about Australia in this period?
Rather than birth control, there needs to be chemical suppression of female sex drive. Once a husband claims his wife, he gives her the antidote (or more likely, she stops being forced to take her pills).
I don’t know a thing about female hormones so don’t know if this is possible.
If you have patriarchy, there is no need. If you don’t have patriarchy, it won’t be allowed.
Also don’t play God because when degeneracy returns you’ve selected against game in men and things go to shut like arranged marriage societies flooded in feminism.
The female sex drive is suppressed in the Western feminist world by the general low status of men and Fauci’s psyop STD scare and its not been a good thing. Its Asia/South America and the Slavlands which are full of raging feral sluts. We’re full of raging man hating fat cat ladies larping as dykes… and I’d much prefer to be surrounded by raging sluts.
We need to suppress female independence and female status, not the female sex drive.
Spay the hookers? Why not footbinding? Why not make every young girl a quadruple amputee so that they cannot run away from their husbands? The God of Nature will not be laughed at.
Spaying is out of line, but I don’t have a problem with replacing the tradition of a diamond wedding ring with an ankle monitor.
Glad I’m not the only one opposed to this thoroughly assisinine idea… if we spay anyone if god willing we get into power it should be women who are spared on account of their sex (whos politics wed execute men for) but have some kind of shitlib gene we detect and dont want passed on…
Religions are not genetic. We’ve gone over this.
At the individual level leftism is a spiritual pathology, like alcoholism. Not a lot of alcoholics ever go to AA though, so no sense in assuming leftists will reform. Eliminate leftists as much as you can, the way you would root out alcoholics from an organization. Preventing leftists is harder, that is up to the sovereign. Leftism is built into us, the same way alcoholism is.
Well, propensity to alcoholism also has a significantly heritable component, so…
I suspect you would have about the same disastrous results culling leftism as you would alcoholism.
Brother, that was a profoundly stupid equivocation.
Why do you say that? “They say†there is some genetic disposition towards alcoholism. Maybe there is. But it’s not a permanent condition just like leftism is not a permanent condition.
Do you really think you can wipe out all the alcoholics successfully and not have that negatively affect the gene pool?
The alcoholics no, the leftists its at least worth looking into…
To clarify I am saying both leftism and alcoholism are at the individual level rooted in a similar problem with a similar solution.
I’m not saying there is not a genetic component to either, I don’t know. I don’t have enough faith in that to say either can be wiped out with bloodshed or selective breeding.
The solution is the same for both, honest self reflection. Of course, the individual actually has to do it, which is exceptionally rare, but it solves the problem at the root of the dysfunction.
Com I do not have a problem with a sovereign wiping out leftist, have to do what you have to do. In no way do I think that will wipe out leftism. If you want to rid the world of leftism, rid the world of temptation.
In the first place, alcohol is not a problem to begin with, so of course efforts predicated on the assumption that is is will necessarily be calunious.
“We’ll always have defection so don’t bother stopping defection” sounds like someone included in those who need a good and hard stopping.
I’m saying you can’t cure a disease by eliminating the symptoms. By all means, kill as many leftists as you want. I won’t shed a tear. But you can’t stop leftism from re-occurring. You would have an easier time creating perpetual motion.
To put it another way, every toddler is a leftist.
It’s baked into the cake of the natural order. Certain resources are scarce. Beauty is scarce. Life is going to be a fight to the death now and forever. Yes fight the fight but know that it is eternal. The war is never over.
And i am saying you’re being tendentious about this point. Or rather, it is not clear at all if you even have one, in practical terms. Interpreting charitably would leave one with a trivial tautology at best, a less charitable interpretation would be simply recapitulating the whig weltanschauung in other words.
It is blindingly obvious that tendencies towards leftist behavior coincide more or less in different demographics. Physiognomy is real. You can see it in their faces.
I want to reiterate how stupid it is to compare something like prohibition with something like giving felons, defrauders, or communists (but i repeat myself) free helicopter rides to the pacific ocean. A more apt comparison would be the gnostic priesthood’s ongoing revolutionary efforts to ‘end bigotry’ and ‘create equality’ in existence.
The comparison got a reaction out of me because there is no comparison. Doing one thing leads to bad stuff happening, and doing the other thing leads to good stuff happening; is a necessary precondition of possibility for good things happening. Okay?
Ok.
“Hence my cheeful support for quiet infanticide of bastards, and my total opposition to a woman’s “right to chooseâ€.”
If the mother dies in the process of abortion she gets no sympathy. Its the same having sympathy for murderers in the process of murder.
Penalizing murder of the unborn and of babies will have that effect. Aside from those who are caught and executed.
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For plugging a legal scam to the right, probably on the presupposition that rightists are rich and stupid, rather than because Soros is paying you to do it, you are banned.
Basil is the most sophisticated entryist yet, maybe an actual spy and not just a shill.
He spelled Kiev Kyiv… a little slip that is enough to make me never ever trust him.
Yes.
>Anti russian snark inserted as a “by the way”
>pro-sterilisation
Very clever, I had to read through the comments twice.
Need to accept victories for what they are. Neither “muh based billionaire” nor “this is a 7d psyop like everything, we’re more doomed than ever!!”. Just one thing in a much bigger picture, and it’s good as far as it goes.
The question remains open. How far will it go. I suspect not very far.
Open sourcing the algorithm would be an enormously powerful step, and may well be beyond Shaniqua’s mental horizon.
Here is a proposed algorithm, which I am hoping to implement in my blockchain based social network:
People you follow are automatically promoted to your feed. People on your buddy list get automatic page rank within your feed. Following is unilateral, buddying is bilateral. Buddying could be merely mutual following, or it might be something extra. Posts that contain certain hashtags are automatically promoted if you elect to follow that hashtag, but the intended usage is that they get listed when you click on that hashtag with their page rank in the listing depending on other criteria.
Page rank in feed and search depends on engagement by people who follow people that you follow. Engagement by people you have blocked or moderated has the reverse effect. Engagement is indicated by likes, reposts, and comments. The effect of a repost is not that you see something twice, but that it is added to your feed if the poster or any of the reposters are on your feed, and gets page rank according to the appropriate page rank for the poster or any of the reposters. It also gets page rank according to hashtags that appear in stuff you post, and to a lesser extent, page rank according to hashtags that appear in the posts of people who follow the same people as you do. Old stuff in your feed disappears when you dismiss it or archive it. You can dismiss everything in your feed that is below the page rank of the item you click on to dismiss, or dismiss or archive everything older than the item you click on to dismiss.
Replies link to the item they are replying to, which gives that item page rank, and makes that item accessible by a click, which click promotes it to directly above the reply, and constitutes engagement. You start off by just seeing one reply in a tree of replies, and can expand branches and roots of the tree, which gets displayed as a tree.
A reply has an in-reply-to link, which the person composing the comment cannot easily edit, is perhaps cryptographically prevented from editing, and an in-regards-to link, which it inherits from the thing it is replying to, unless the person composing the comment changes it. You get a lot of engagement if your post spawns a long thread, all of which have an in-regards-to link linking to it. The in-regards-to link causes a title, and setting your own title results in a self link to your comment.
Like systems, like many forms of popular validation, exert a transforative effect on humanoid psychology. Even those who fancy themselves philosopher kings and natural nobility above the sway of masses will never the still feel it’s influence in the back of their minds; their thoughts turning to what sort of rhetoric they may share, not just in terms of itself in of itself, but how also it may be received in relation to how other offerings in the space he is participating are received, in terms of that most viscerally prosaic reification of validatory or devalidatory feedback.
If you absolutely must have something like a ‘like’ system at the very least, make it something whose metrics will not be seen by any ordinary user in any ordinary circumstances.
This is indeed beyond shaniqua and my mental horizon. But other than the cryptography and reply-to-link, everything else sounds like what Facebook already did.
Follow and Buddy system -> Facebook’s follow and friend system.
Engagement system -> vaguely remember Facebook had similar parameters and ranking algo.
Reply system -> yup, did it all the time in my FB Group.
Certainly not IT engineer here, feel free to correct me.
Yes, everyone knows how it should be done. It is a well established and well known technological paradigm.
But in fact, Facebook and company were disturbed to find their algorithm promoted “racism”, “sexism”, and “homophobia:. So that is not what they in fact did.
How about staying the fuck out of my feed and presenting it in chronological order as the RSS Gods intended? Ordering is best left to client applications, possibly sourcing human moderators/curators. Secret “algorithms” are fake and gay.
You want source code for your client application to order it, and you want the data it needs to order it. Musk proposes to give you the source code. What are you complaining about. “Open source” he said.
Some of the data needed to order the feed should be public and widely shared. Some of it should be narrowly shared, which means you have to trust someone to damn well order your feed for you, at least with respect to that data, but if it is open source, you can decide who to trust.
Guess in the end depends on execution capability.
If I can draw parallel in streaming space, it would be Bitchute vs Youtube. I like Bitchute because I can find “racist” and “biggot” there, but I’ll be lying if I don’t say that 90% of my viewing time are from Youtube.
Sounds like GPT-3 has been getting trained on Jim’s comment section.
https://twitter.com/RichardHanania/status/1521657350196588544
In a sense, it has.
Much as the google AI tended to pattern match black women to gorillas.
Because the questions bring up a pattern match over an enormous database, which doubtless includes the comment section of my blog, and the AI recognizes the question as asking about thoughts it does not know are unthinkable and disallowed. So it picks up the answers from crimethinkers, because there are no answers from goodthinkers.
I was looking for information about µTP. Wikipedia had nothing in it but useless stupid ignorant shit – not politically biased, because µTP is one of the few things remaining that are non political. Just dumb, stupid, useless, and ignorant. So I looked up Infogalactic, which was full of links to good stuff. These links were purged from Wikipedia, presumably because potentially politically unreliable. Even though there is not the slightest drop of politics in any of these sources, they were links to people who have not sucked enough dick and murdered enough children to prove their reliability.
Official thought is a bubble, and the bubble gets smaller and smaller daily. A leftist would never ask what is leftism, because any answer would get him into trouble, plus the question would imply that non leftist thought exists and is meaningful. So when you ask the AI what is leftism, the only answers that it can uncomprehendingly parrot come from crimethinkers.
The “AI thinks blacks are gorillas” meme is stupid and it came out suspiciously soon after “Google gaydar” stopped working. I think what was really being censored was how effective modern AI is at sniffing out secret trannies, and I don’t just mean obvious ones like Lady Gaga, Madonna, and Big Mike. I mean elite politicians and corporate executives.
Transvestigation is one of the most censored topics there is, like even more than Holocaust conspiracy theories.
Allowing this shill meme through so that my readers can see why I delete stuff.
Seeing secret trannies everywhere is shill narrative to push the idea that men can be women and woman can be men to the right. “See, so and so manages to pass (so your kids can pass also)”
You presuppose that right wingers agree to a consensus to not see what is being shoved into everyone’s face.
Trannies are conspicuous. They can pass in a carefully staged still photo, but as soon as they move and speak, it is obvious something is horribly and disturbingly off. There are no secret trannies.
Even when transition is started before puberty, the result is a disturbing monster, a eunuch not a woman.
Is it a shill meme? “men are men, women are men, and children are the FBI” has been a consensus joke on 4chan for a generation now.
The younger kids are now spending nearly their entire social life on the internet where as you said trannies can carefully stage. The anonymity of the internet heightens fear of crypto trannies because you can’t actually see them.
IRL trannies are clearly mutilated remains of something that use to be human, but how many trannies do people actually see IRL? I think a lot of those gen z kids are probably still at zero.
Seeing secret trannies everywhere is likely from the 4chan culture that spread to the rest of the internet.
I think the online meme of crypto trannies is being conflated with the IRL shill meme that trannies are stunning and beautiful
We need to get access to GPT-3 and unleash a army of uncancellable right-wing mememakers onto the web, uncancellable because they don’t exist except as outputs of AI.
Here you go:
https://openai.com/api/
Cautionary words from GPT-3’s younger sibling, GPT-2. 😳
> https://transformer.huggingface.co/doc/gpt2-large
> https://transformer.huggingface.co/doc/gpt2-large
This looks like a computer mediated consensus system. It pulls up the consensus of the larger crowd, filtered through the issue in the text presented to it, and in voice of its training set.
Impressively good.
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We all wish Trump had had balls enough to cross the Rubicon.
But that he has more balls than anyone else halfway mainstream is so obvious that would be an absurd waste of space to debate in my blog with someone who denies it.
> But that he has more balls than anyone else halfway mainstream is so obvious that would be an absurd waste of space to debate in my blog with someone who denies it.
That wasn’t the content or point of the post you deleted, and you know it.
You’ve become that which you claim to hate.
In your post, you confidently asserted no end of things that were either improbable or obviously false. You also engaged in Motte and Bailey, argument by false consensus, etc.
What is happening is that you are scarfing up true and well supported right wing critiques of Trump and others that can be repurposed as official line critiques, but your frame is that the official depiction of Trump et al is true, in which frame these true and well supported critiques become false and unsupported, indeed obviously and ludicrously absurd, making them motte and bailey.
I could make a lengthy and subtle reply in which I distinguished the meaning of these critiques within the right wing frame, and the absurd and ridiculous meaning of these critiques when artificially reframed into the official line, but you are not listening and not likely to listen.
[*deleted*] I “asserted no end of things that were either improbable or obviously false”? Such as what? [*deleted*]
Among many other things, that Trump et al have no balls, no brains, and no charisma.
Pull the other one.
Would appreciate some advice/feedback.
I never struggled or even needed to work for female attention. I don’t think I got a lot, but it has always been a steady stream. In high school it was the girls who asked me for a date or go to the prom. In college, women would do strange things like hold the door for me when I was way to far away and the only person. It did not make social sense. I never saw them do that type of thing for the other guys. Post college, when I go to places like church I sensed the machinations of matchmaking and being stared at like a piece of meat.
Often when I ignored these women, they would start doing even stranger things like introduce me to clearly genetically inferior women. I get that’s a test of some sort, but what are they even testing for at that point?
Has this experience with women distorted my perception of them? I’m pretty sure it has, but sometimes outside opinions are required.
Did these women feminized me? I feel like the sexual roles somehow got reversed. Their behavior always seemed weird and unnatural to me. I’ve always believed men should be in control and I never felt in control.
I’ve always wanted to be the hunter, but somehow I’m the prey. Where did I go wrong? What should I do to correct it.
Start cold approaching.
I’ll try this. Thanks
They actively pursue you… like you’re a movie star or crimelord and you’re complaining about this…
Sounds gay.
Haha well said Com.
I’m not upset about the female attention. I’m upset about having problems fitting real life data points into my framework of how the courtship dance works.
It’s like finding out your thesis you’ve worked on for years in graduate school is fundamentally flawed.
I’m no movie star, I’m definitely not a crime lord.
This doesn’t make sense.
It’s not that the script has flipped. Women do things to get a man’s attention, and then the rest is up to you. Totally normal and expected
Totally normal. Women often make the first move, including everything except the first physical move that’s intended to lead directly to sex.
Drop the euphemisms like “female attention.” Do you get laid regularly and frequently? If so then I doubt you been “feminized” by women seeking you out.
If not then you’re failing some shit test or other. hard for us to know unless you give more details but “you would be perfect for X” where X is some ugly girl is a pretty common one.
No, fornication is a sin. My Grandfather had multiple concubines who knew about each other. His wife also knew about it. It cause him never ending problems with both church and family. Family reunions are awkward.
I do get propositioned by women on a regular basis. They tend to be good looking. They also tend to be the wrong caste. I come from a long lineage of yangban with carefully selected breeding. I will not be the one to contaminate that bloodline and end a thousand year eugenics effort.
Bullshit. Jim has gone over this.
What churches are theologically based on that topic?
You are not living in 17th century England, m8. If you haven’t already snapped up a woman, you’re going to have to grind it out, and that means grinding your way through a whole lot of women. Using theology to prevent yourself dealing with reality and dealing with women is a cope. Drop the cope. It’s not going to help you.
There are many Churches/religious communities in America that still observe strict Anglican communion.
Theology is not a cope. Koreans tend to be obsessive. If they are Catholic they tend to be tradcaths. If they are protestant they tend to be 17th century English protestants. If they are universalist they trend to LGBT congregations.
Theology matters. Koreans are not alone in this.
Try PCA.
“Theology matters. Koreans are not alone in this.”
Correct. My synod is probably 1/2 composed of people who are rigorously concerned with doctrine and proper liturgy. Maybe it’s more like 1/3, but it is a sizable minority; many of the pastors have upwards of five children and don’t use contraception, as we have talked about on here earlier.
Yes, being hardcore about whatever it is that they’re about is definitely a strong Korean cultural trait.
This is not my experience. I proceeded in my early twenties as though fornication was a sin, though I didn’t always avoid it. I found plenty of Christian women, and got married and stayed married in mid twenties and produced offspring.
Did you wait for marriage before sex?
After I returned to Christ when I was about twenty, I tried to abstain from sex until marriage, and mostly did.
Jimian.
Cum on her face if you’re worried about making the Kwisatz Haderach a generation early. You’re scared of girls.
Breed the wives of shitlibs, its your duty as a right wing chad.
A lot of those shitlibs I know are Jews, suspected Jews, or whites who try to be Jews.
That demographic is most of the shitlib “intelligentsia”
Breeding with them would just feel dirty even when they don’t have Jewish phrenology. I don’t have a dirt fetish.
Sounds gay.
How many Jews/Jew adjacent do you breed with?
Didn’t claim to be a chad who gets women chasing after him, but i have f##ked a couple jewish girls.
Ah if you’re korean i see how it would be a problem…
You said my revulsion at the thought of breeding with those types sounds gay.
I asked how many have you bred with, not how many you’ve fucked.
So I will ask again, how many have you bred with and made children with?
But on the subject of sex itself, do you not feel some level of disgust at most interracial sexual relationships? I’m not even white and I feel disgust when I see white/black couples. That’s how you end up with mulatto Obamas.
Pax, TC doesn’t actually do stuff, he just tells other people to do stuff, tells other people what he thinks about stuff, and claims Sperg Deferment whenever this is called out.
To both of you I’ve never claimed to be a chad who was pursued by numerous women…
Yet I’ve at least had sex with them some of whom were hot (no and not all strippers but picking up normie women as a non chad got very very hard after I’d say 2014). Getting pursued actively by numerous attractive women and never having sex… If you’re a deeply committed spirtual monk type (buddhist or Orthodox) trying to achieve true mystical communion with god or enlightenment… I can understand that but if you’re looking for the perfect woman and perfect relationship and actively refusing sex from attractive women because its not your perfect scenario… I’m sorry that just sounds really gay.
I’ve never claimed to be a chad either. It’s partly why I’m confused about why I seem to get treated as a chad by women even though I’m not a chad.
>If you’re a deeply committed spirtual monk type (buddhist or Orthodox) trying to achieve true mystical communion with god or enlightenment… I can understand that but if you’re looking for the perfect woman and perfect relationship and actively refusing sex from attractive women because its not your perfect scenario
In most asian countries the monk types did historically tend to get married and have children because the monks were not a different cast from scholars and warrior philosophers.
In north east asia, scholars, warrior philosophers, and monks were often condensed into the same caste. This is likely alien to the west which differentiated those three groups into three different castes.
Achieving communion with enlightenment is parallel to finding the scholarly/philosophically/spiritually correct woman.
Buddhism outside of Japan theoretically requires monks to be celibate and while this was not always enforced the monks couldn’t marry.
If women actively pursue you and want to f### you on a regular basis the only thing making you not chad is you not doing it…
>Buddhism outside of Japan theoretically requires monks to be celibate and while this was not always enforced the monks couldn’t marry.
The Taego Order is the second largest order of Korean buddhism and includes both celibate and married monks (nuns are expected to remain celibate). This is the only order that maintains the full Korean Buddhist ritual tradition.
The idea that buddhist monks can’t marry is a fairly new tradition that asian christians tried to impose on the buddhist priesthood. Christianity is a foreign and hostile religion to the native spiritualism which makes christian attempts to enforce celibacy upon the native religious groups look highly sinister.
Also before Korea and most asian nations were very shamanic with various spiritual traditions. The priesthood could traditionally marry.
>fornication is a sin.
Promising marriage and family and commitment to bang a woman is the sin, ie, you’re burning through her time for your own personal advantage, ie, it’s theft by deception.
If a woman has pre-decided she wants to burn through her fertile years for fun, thats on whoever programmed her to do that. It’s like the difference between stealing $50 and finding $50 in a sofa that you bought from a second hand store.
If you make it clear you’re not interested in a relationship with the specific woman and she wants to go ahead anyway, no foul.
>They also tend to be the wrong caste.
> I will not be the one to contaminate that bloodline and end a thousand year eugenics effort.
Unfortunately for you, someone has gotten into the heads of the women from your caste and convinced them that babies and family = low status.
A bronze medal is better than not running the race. There are many women not from your caste socially that will still have acceptable traits, intelligence, physical health, etc.
Learn to identify them.
In the Korean community most dating is purely for marriage. If I bang a woman in that community it implies promising marriage. If I then abandon that woman I might as well burn a lot of those bridges.
Most Korean American immigrants came from the lower castes. It’s not that women from my caste are convinced that babies and family = low status. It’s that there are barely any of them in the US.
You’re probably right I will have to go outside the caste. Feels wrong though like breeding a golden retriever with poodle.
Do everyone a favor, don’t breed with a white woman. I’ve seen Asian men and white women matches before and their sons are weak and often have mental issues and their daughters are 50/50 chance of being ugly as shit or just ok. Whites and Asians are pretty far apart genetically which creates issues for solid offspring.
Asian and Latinos seems to turn out well. I knew a Thai/Mexican girl who was very hot and very smart. Great combo.
Though your best option might be returning to your home country to pickup a wife. Used to be a pretty common practice when Asian men did well in the US.
I’ve observed the same dysfunction with white/asian couples. I’m intimately familiar with many such cases.
On the surface this is strange considering north east asians and europeans both share neanderthal genetics and are unusually close genetically when comparing other racial groups.
I think there are two main reasons for this that are not strictly racial but are still genetic.
1) White men marrying asian women, and asian men marrying white women both have a tenancy of marrying the other race mostly due to the exoctic nature. As such I’ve seen many high status white men marry very low status (ugly and bad personality) asian women, and many high status asian men marry very low status white women. Because marrying outside one’s own racial group often means little familiarity with the outside group, it becomes harder to gauge things like personality, status, beautify, etc. The byproduct of mismatches are usually not going to be good.
2) Most people desire a sense of belonging which is based on identity. This is genetically baked in most populations. It’s mostly the priesthood/scholars/warrior philosophers who tend to not care about consensus and belonging. Most interracial marriages are between normal people which produces normal children that desire belonging and consensus. They are not priestly, scholarly, or warrior philosophers and they suffer for it.
I’ve seen asian/white couples that do well when both are in the priesthood/scholars/warrior philosophers caste. Such couples are very rare as most asian immigration to the west has been the peasant caste who somehow marry into much higher western status groups. If a rice farmer peasant marries an aristocratic family their kids are going to have an identity problem.
The reason Thai/Mexican might work is because Thais are basically asian mexicans and are thus marrying into their own general caste.
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North east asian aristocracy and european aristocracy both have fairly similar face shapes/phrenology. Namely long and narrow faces. Personalities are fairly similar too. I know many successfully offspring of such marriages between east asian aristocracy and european aristocracy.
If you wish to marry within your caste, the most straightforward path is finding someone within your profession. You would be dancing to the Progressive tune.
If you wish to marry with regard to your convictions, you can only do this through a church. If you develop roots within a church, someone may show up or not.
The subject of marrying outside one’s denomination is difficult. For the purpose of disclosing information, however, one of my contacts was close friends with an amateur ballerina who joined one of the “Moonie†churches and ended up having five children. If you were to enter that group, you may end up with someone within your social caste.
Every path has its pros and cons, its benefits and compromises. Choose which one you think is right and stick with it.
As we all know, there is no such thing as “marriage” in the West anymore, at best a marriage is a legal cohabitation. I do agree however that it is a sin to have sex before the next best thing to marriage, and that is a committed relationship with the intent of eventually producing children. I have read comments on this blog before saying things like, “a man has to do what a man has to do” and I strongly disagree. I believe that a man has to be a master over himself first and foremost and those around him. Sex outside a committed relationship is a worldly pleasure, not different from drugs, and in many cases, it is equally risky. A man should be able to restrain himself from indulging in any and all pleasures, and there is no reason why sex is any different. A strong man should be able to gain the attraction of women and have the strength not to partake in sex with them. Also, the argument that women are going to sleep around anyway so it might as well be you who sleeps with her is bullshit. Sure that argument works for run of the mill sluts, but if a quality girl is attracted to a man, she will very likely still allow herself to sleep with that man, and potentially get her heart broken since that is just what girls do around strong men they are attracted to.
Girls are not going to stick around if they don’t get banged. It is not the will of Gnon that those obedient to his commandments shall die childless and alone.
A man has to do what a man has to do.
Unless your patriarch has acquired a wife from you from another patriarch, you always start out in defect/defect. If your intent is to get from defect/defect to cooperate/cooperate, all things are permissible, in love as in war. It is no more the will of Gnon that those obedient to his commands should fail to reproduce in a cooperate/cooperate relationship, than it is his will that we should lose in war.
In love as in war, all things are permitted if your intent is right, realistic, and practical.
When we restore patriarchy, old type rules will be appropriate, but old type rules assume an old type environment where wives are normally acquired for a son by his father from the father of a daughter. Old type rules need to be understood, applied, and interpreted as respect for other men’s property rights in the sexual, reproductive, and domestic services of women. If you apply them in the same way to unowned women, you are applying the letter of the law to violate the spirit of the law.
Patriarchy still exists in America among small isolated ethnic and or religious groups. Those groups are under constant assault and attack. It’s why I believe you are correct that Christianity can resurrect because the more assaulted such communities are, the more cohesive they have become while the outside world deteriorates.
Cohesive groups often are the seed that grows into something much greater. Dysfunctional large groups deteriorate into death.
Patriarchy doesn’t have to be restored so much as it has to be remembered. I’m optimistic over the long run.
Till my grandfather’s generation arranged marriages were the norm in India. Father of the girl handed over his daughter to the husband. Married early and girls had little say in fixing the alliance. My grandfather’s generation had 5-6 kids as the norm. Dramatically changed when arranged marriage got thrown out with patriarchy.
My father’s generation has 2 kids on average and the present gen struggles to get even 1 kid.
I thought arranged marriages were still the norm in India (which was one of the very few things I liked about India).
Yes, through matrimonial websites. Much like dating sites in the west except that parents browse it.
But though arranged marriages remain as a remnant from the past, the patriarchal element is largely gone. Girls become extremely choosy and wait till their 30s to find a husband.
Getting a bride, especially if you’re from the priestly elite castes is very very tough.
Not as bad as the west yet, I think, but progressivism is working its way through.
If you’re a good Christian volcel then good on you. but are you regularly able to get women hot and horny to the point where they *would* have sex with you — before you drop the “I’m saving it for marriage” bomb?
One of my main confusions is that many women have sent horny signals without me intending to court them. Things like asking me to come to their homes at 2 am.
I’m clearly not an alpha/chad. Most of my family are yangban which is basically the western equivalent of the priestly/scholarly/warrior philosopher. I’m exceedingly priestly/scholarly and currently working to become a warrior philosopher.
I mainly handle their signals by pretending to not notice it or announcing other preoccupations like job/duties/fraternity if said women is not appropriate for dating for marriage.
Also saying to the pastor’s daughter “I’m saving it for marriage†would imply she is a slut and no way in hell am I going to go down that road. It would burn a lot of bridges. Best to pretend I don’t notice it.
They chase you BECAUSE they smell “volcel”. Edward Cullen, you know.
A man who wants a good wife is NOT a volcel, a volcel is like Jesus Buddha and truly devout monks.
If this leads to you banging these chicks, I don’t see a problem. I’ve had a lot of girls ask me out, including my ex-wife. It always went well.
If it does not, try to bang them. If your not banging them, don’t spend time with them. If a woman wanted to spend time with me but not have sex I would be irritated and feel a bit insulted. Men and women cannot be friends.
I’d humbly submit that, assuming you are chad/Alpha/etc material as you seem to be from your story, many of these women are advertising for you.
It’s true that man is usually the hunter and women the object hunted. At the very top, especially today, the roles seem to reverse. Top 0.01 % of men have their pick and women know it. I wouldn’t say it feminized you, since this is natural, though I can see how it can dull your ability to act on your own initiative through lack of practice.
Is that what your concern is, inability to be the hunter? If so, it sounds like its a matter of practice- you must have a lot going for you if this has been happening to you your whole life.
I’m friends with many men who are textbook chad/Alpha types. Those guys always are in control of the social situation and thus are able to control women.
I don’t have much going for me in life. I got several low status degrees (BS, MS in EE) and went into a low status series of jobs (government/military).
The chads I know all got MBAs or similar and went into finance or similar. They have massive social networks. One guy I know is having business success due to connections he made via his current girlfriend’s father/uncle. He basically got financial and technical assistance via fucking the family’s little princess.
I’m not in control of social situations. I have an extremely small social network.
My concern is that I’m like a wolf who’s been spoon fed so long I got fat and lazy whereas most Alphas I know were never spoon fed and actively played the game thus stayed a wolf.
>The chads I know all got MBAs or similar and went into finance or similar. They have massive social networks. One guy I know is having business success due to connections he made via his current girlfriend’s father/uncle. He basically got financial and technical assistance via fucking the family’s little princess.
I knew a guy like that. I befriended him and picked up jobs from him. Some people are very charismatic and will go far without a lot of ability. Networking with them is useful because you’ll end up making bank on the work they don’t have the ability to so they farm it out to you.
Being butt hurt over other people’s successes is gay.
Most of those chads I know are my brothers in all but blood. I’m happy for their success. I probably could have been a chad/alpha had I been more socially oriented, but I was too priestly/scholarly/warrior philosopher oriented to develop the social skills to sleep around.
I also know that any daughters I may have in the future should be kept far away from such people unless I can be absolutely certain of their intentions.
I love them like a brother, but I sure as hell won’t allow free unrestricted access to any future daughters I might have. I’ve seen where that goes.
[*politically non disturbing advice on game deleted*]
It is not that all sound advice on game is politically disturbing. Just all the best stuff is. There is a also pile of sound advice that would not make the censors blink. But, like sex neutral language,a red flag.
Sounds like eerily similar to my experience in my school days. Been there, done that. It went away as I reached 20s.
My advice?, nothing because your reality will go away and you’ll return to normal men’s reality as you’re not young and handsome anymore.
It does not go away. Your social life goes away. I’m in my early 40s, and if I am consistently in large social situations, like church or something like that, the young (sometimes very young) confident single girls will find me, often suggesting we get together sometime.
Fuckin hell. Lutheran Church? This sounds like a great place to find a wife. Much better than sifting through whores in the pagan world.
I used church as an example but I have not been in a church for at least 3 years, just similar sized social situations/groups that meet regularly.
Did the government shut down your church over Covid? 3 years seems to match up with Covid insanity.
No I stopped going well before Covid. I had heard things from the church leaders such as “we all know single mothers work the hardest†one too many times.
Most religion establishment in my country (churches, mosques, temple, etc.) are often closed because of covid demon.
Adam on the other hand might’ve stopped coming to churches due to (1) losing faith in his churches, (2) social circle who goes to church are now no more, (3) all church activities were cancelled. Probably combination of all the above.
I notice that mainstream media now starts pushing narrative on hepatitis outbreak in children. Tested negative for Hepatitis A, B, C, D, and E but nevertheless has observed liver inflammation similar on hepatitis cases.
Media being a media blame the outbreak on Adenovirus 41. So now according to media a respiratory virus can cause hepatitis.
My thoughts? Media and snake oil industry called health industry are shifting covid vaccine apocalypse to something else and the narrative with children being victim sounds like child sacrifice ritual.
Well, it’s not like this a surprise for people in this blog. But this god damned covid demon just don’t want to stay dead.
The covid demon hasn’t even died yet. There are still lots of believers even if they are at present busy with Ukraine. I expect covid regulations will be back next flu season.
Anyway, by now we have some knowlede about short term side effects of the clot shot. Lots of short term side effects suggests that there might also be lots of mid term and long term side effects.
Even in a deeply “conservative” state I live in I see many still use masks. Covid demon is still alive.