Ever since 2016, we have been telling Trump he has to cross the Rubicon, and he has not crossed it.
Yet here we are, on the other side of the Rubicon anyway.
For a long time “Sexist”, “Racist”, “Homophobe”, “Fascist”, “Nazi” meant to businessmen that they should do what they are told, or their business will be burned down, their staff beaten up, financial irregularities found in their books, and whatever they are creating will be found in violation of regulations, and to private individuals, that they should do what they are told, or they will be debanked, deplatformed, cancelled, and probably roughed up a bit.
And, of course, this inevitably escalated to death threats, the Young Turks has been issuing veiled death threats for longer than I can keep track of, some of which were eventually carried out.
Suddenly, the left could no longer debank and deplatorm, so now all death threats all the time. “Sexism” et cetera means to businessmen “Do as you are told or we will shoot up your business, and to private individuals, do as you are told, or we are going to kill you. The left switched from threatening debanking, to threatening murder.
And then they murdered Charlie Kirk, a vastly bigger and better known figure than all the people that they have murdered over the past year or so. For three days they told us it they did not do it, Maga did it, it was a good thing, and if we did not shut up they would murder some more of us.
And then ABC, trying to back off from oncoming civil war, purged Kimmel for saying that.
The left went into a full on frenzy, with more terror incidents than I can shake a stick at, with senior Democratic leadership issuing veiled threats against the leadership of the ABC and FCC, and of course terror attacks on ABC, the most important one so far being shooting up an ABC10 facility in California. No one inside the building was hit, but there were bullets flying through the windows in their general direction. It seems like a message, not an attempted murder. Or maybe it is that since most poofters cannot shoot straight, and most leftists cannot shoot straight, Tyler James Robinson is the only useful killer they have. The assailant was immediately caught, and immediately released on bail with no threat assessment. Because who is that has been issuing veiled calls for terrorist attacks on the ABC? Of course governor Newscum had him instantly released. The swiftness of his release make it unlikely he is ever going to serve time in a California prison. The FBI needs to re-arrest him and give him federal charges. (What is one more constitutional crisis. There are going to be plenty more.)
So, what does Trump need to do? Well, he needs to ship most of the Democratic party, most of HR, a substantial part of the federal workforce, much of the entertainment industry, and most of the open source organisers who have non coding roles, off to Alaska. Will he? Eventually someone will, what remains to be revealed his how many people get killed before we get there.
As an Alaskan, I must ask… why do we have to get stuck with these people?
Like Siberia, you have a great deal of room, and a very bad transportation network.
Alaska is a beautiful if bitterly cold state. It does seem a bit unfair to shit if up like that. If free helicopter rides to swimming lessons in the Pacific is too hard a solution, could we not expatriate them to some shit hole country for shits and giggles? Haiti comes to mind. Conveniently close to the big ICE facility being built in Florida. It could always be repurposed into a staging ground for removals. Haiti is also close enough to keep them under watch.
I also don’t trust the Canadians to not facilitate their “rescue” from American “Siberia”.
You’ll be invaded by shitskins from the Northern Border if you don’t change the regime in Canada (by way of annexation, presumably). That’s even more within the Overton Window than the Alaskan Solution to the Democrat Problem, and Trump can and should do both.
Alaska has a shitskin shield, less extreme than that of Mars, but it is still working quite effectively.
My point though is that Canada’s immigration policy spells trouble for mainland USA, which will sooner or later require replacing the regime there. That may be a separate topic from Gulags for Dems, but fixing Canada will also have the benefit of preventing the rescue-from-Alaska scenario suggested by Pax here.
>Yet here we are, on the other side of the Rubicon anyway.
Lol. Not likely. This is just another outrage of the week, and the Great Orange Boomer and his crew of sycophants, subversives, and traitors will be on to something else soon enough. There is no White Terror, the administration doesn’t want a White Terror, and even if they wanted a White Terror, the judicial and law enforcement bureaucracies are staffed with 100% Reds and would never carry it out.
The Democrats arranging for ABC to be shot up is a rather new level of outrage.
The ABC was just trying to go the weasel middle ground, and the news is, you have to join the killemall left, or they will kill you. There can be no moderate left, because the immoderate left is putting them on the death list. We are all sexist racist homophobic Nazis now. Including the executives at ABC.
They do not want a White Terror, but neither do they want to be killed.
I have been saying for decades that the left will kill everyone if they can. The Democrats putting ABC on the death list is a good start on that.
When the radical left murdered Charlie Kirk, a lot of influencers felt a little bit disturbed. When the Democrats went after ABC, a lot of executives in boardrooms are going to start thinking.
One day Troontifa shoots Charlie Kirk, a week later the Democrats are shooting up the ABC building. Ever lefter, ever faster.
A polite and gentle purge of a few antifa elements is unlikely to solve this. Needs a White Terror.
That is our best hope: the radical Left drags the Right kicking and screaming into civil war. It could happen, but it will take a lot more than the assassination of some e-celeb and few bullets shot into an empty ABC affiliate building.
Naturally, my money is on the Right turning yet another cheek and then burying its collective head back in the warm, comfortable sand as the West continues its slide into oblivion. What’s the best predictor of future behavior? Past behavior. The USA barely noticed the Weather Underground and the Days of Rage, except to give the perpetrators tenured professorships, and that happened when we were a lot Whiter and a lot Righter.
The building was not empty. If purging Kimmel means the Democrats have random ABC employees shot up, what is going to happen when Reddit gets shut down?
Their death list was rather shorter. Weather Underground and Days of Rage only damaged property and threatened the lives of military personnel and police.
I guarantee that most of the people at ABC who found bullets wizzing past them were homicidal sex pervert leftists, and yet they still got shot at by other leftists. Left is now rapidly going into murder-everyone-for-insufficient-leftism mode.
Leftism must get ever lefter, and murder-everyone is the penultimate leftism.
>Their death list was rather shorter.
Speaking on the current death list:
I lurk in a number of Trantifa and various other leftist Discord servers. Their common attitude is that if there is just one “Fascist” allowed to sit at the table, then everyone else at the table is also a “Fascist”. The number of others at the table is completely arbitrary. Since their definition of “Fascist” is quite loose, they are advocating mass murder of everyone to the right of themselves. It’s really quite easy to find those servers and gain entry. Really wish there was actual Fed monitoring in order to crack down on these groups, but as far as I can tell, I’m the only “Fed” lurking there and it’s purely out of personal curiosity. Not my job. Though hopefully that might change with them being declared a Terrorist organization and US mil increasingly being used for dealing with domestic issues.
I’m very likely being shoved against my will into Intelligence. Really wanted to be a ground pounder and be directly involved in cleaning up the mess, but I just didn’t socially make the cut. Not fratty enough I’m told. Any suggestions on how I should proceed with my military career? Should I just be content with Intel?
Intel has long been where the power is. It is now about to become where the lethality is. In Ukraine, it is no longer grunts controlling territory. It is drones, spies and assassins versus drone operators. You are already doing entryism against Antifa on your own initiative. You should be doing on behalf of military intel.
If you attend a Ubuntu conference, you will find ample grounds for taking out half the speakers.
Well, my facts are probably long out of date. We have seen a lot of escalation since then. By now it is probably all of the speakers, and any speaker that does not make a thinly veiled call for murder and terror is promptly put on the death list.
So much is different from the Days of Rage era though. Surveillance is ubiquitous. White flight is no longer a guaranteed real estate play (urban whites are an endangered species). [*payload deleted again*] The birth rate continues to implode, basically everywhere except Africa.
The blue cities have government workers acting like politicians, outsourcing all their work to someone else who lives somewhere else. [*payload deleted again*]
Boomers keep revolutionary LARPing because they think it’s still Days of Rage. It’s more like a Spanish Civil War situation. There’s nowhere to run.
And, according to at least this article, those ABC executives are going to cave to the killemall left — that, indeed, the whole reason the show was “suspended indefinitely” was precisely because they intended for it to be temporary all along (as is often the case when the left “suspends” someone):
And they were right: after a week of “suspension”, ABC is already bringing Kimmel back:
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/business-news/sinclair-preempt-jimmy-kimmel-live-return-abc-1236377475/
So score another win for “nothing ever happens.”
I do not follow the Fake News closely, so your notice was the first I had heard of the shootup of the ABC affiliate in Sacramento. It was also the first I had heard of Jimmy Kimmel in years: I had forgotten that he existed.
Are you being poetic, or do you mean that the Democratic Party has arranged to target Sacramento’s ABC affiliate with gunfire? Or do you mean something between, such as that the senior Democratic leadership deliberately cultivate conditions in which random, drug-addled leftist college dropouts are likely to plan and execute such attacks on their own? (According to Fake News, the fellow arrested was one 64-year-old Anibal Hernandez Santana, whose identity would not seem to fit the type, but this isn’t necessarily the point.)
The trend und Drang of the times in which we find ourselves is so disturbing that practically nothing surprises one any longer, so I do not ask to cast doubt. The question just a question.
Regarding Jimmy Kimmel, I do cast doubt. My first thought when you mentioned his firing (and reminded me that he existed) was that Kimmel was an expendable gentile and that Bob Iger expended him—as Chris Mathews was an expendable gentile a few years earlier and Brian Roberts expended him; or Chris Cuomo, Jeff Zucker, etc. The JQ bores you but does not bore Manhattan’s and Hollywood’s Jewish elite. I am not sure that one can well speak of Kimmel’s dismissal without mentioning it.
The post’s title is great, by the way. I wish I’d thought of it.
Welcome back (you never left) Kunning Druegger; I enjoyed your alts, but I suspect that it’s time to stop being a massive faggot because of muh eschaton and to stick to one handle, like I’ve been doing for almost a year now.
Good points, by the way.
Good to see KD back, missed seeing you in the comments (Mossadnik, how can you tell?).
I would’ve spotted the ol’ bastard far sooner had I paid greater attention to this blog in the relevant years, but I used to not be glued here 24/7, believe it or not. Anyway, I employed muh high verbal IQ to reason as to who this trollish character, with his distinct writing style(s), could be, and what his actual mission here is; and being a tad ‘tarded, it has finally dawned on me yesterday that it was all him all along, trolololo. (And I had certain previous suspicions, but played along for everyone’s benefit.)
Looks like he wants to be “back for real,” which I strongly encourage, him being a valuable pillar of this community, and I thank him for what he actually sought — and succeeded — to achieve with “the sperg out of all sperg outs.”
>muh high verbal IQ
Ever get tested? I did, maxed out the test on abstract reasoning and spatial related categories at 145 (it couldn’t measure higher), absolutely floored verbal related categories at 55 (it couldn’t measure lower).
I think I won the title of sperg of all spergs, unless anyone else wants to contest the title. lol, TC where you at?
Indeed, we need competition to settle the matter:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0PWJDgh8I0
Never taken a real IQ test, and I couldn’t care less what my actual IQ is or how it’s constructed. The (non-WN) HBD fellas — who are spergs themselves — overemphasize IQ because they worship kikes and gooks to signal how scientific and non-biased their racism is; I much prefer old-fashioned non-scientific BELIEVE YOUR GODDAMN EYES racism, personally.
I was a mere high midwit at 128 I’m not sure how it broke down and 20+ years later I’m sure its gone down a bit (don’t drink though so I haven’t killed it with booze). I know a weird thing was my spatial reasoning was very good but my visual memory is very weak.
Never liked old fashioned racism. It’s always too low brow.
Scientific racism is too sterile and impersonal to get in the mud with gritty realities.
I prefer esoteric racism of the sort of Hakan Rotmwrt. Sad our Siberian Shaman was purged from Twitter and never came back. There are whispers that he is out there somewhere, if someone could point me in the right direction, would much appreciate it.
Which type of classification preserves a nation healthy? Or, to narrow it down, which type is better for keeping the streets safe? Old-fashioned racism allows me to easily notice the higher proneness to criminality of Mizrahim compared to Ashkenazim; I suspect that Esoteric Racism, at least of the kind which sees Jews as a spiritual — rather than spiritual and biological — category (which might therefore entail significant biological subdivisions) just would not be as effective for these purposes.
Esoteric racism is weird schizos making up crazy shit about jews while ignoring obvious facts to be racist about. Scientific racism is a good supplement to old fashioned racism.
Of course old fashion racism works well for individual safety, but it hardly protects you from an elite that one day decides to import a hundred million Africans.
For better and worse, it has always been the esoteric by which elites organize, so yes, the most effective form of racism that protects a people and nation is going to be, by default, esoteric in nature.
Yes, but esoteric racism is a pile of delusion and lies, so if you organise the elite on esoteric racism, you are going to get a demon possessed elite.
Racism needs both science and faith — that God’s plan was separation of kinds, plus scientific knowledge of differences between kinds.
>Racism needs both science and faith
>Yes, but esoteric racism is a pile of delusion and lies
Faith at the elite levels is always esoteric in nature. This is inescapable. The layman has little time, training, nor the interest to understand theology at the level of St. Augustin and the like. Whether or not esoteric racism is a pile of delusion is dependent upon the underlying faith. Is it solid? Since the Enlightenment it hasn’t. That can and will be fixed. I’m already seeing it happen in Christian Nationalist circles.
Pax is 100% right on this one. It doesn’t matter whether you believe it, what matters is that *they* believe it.
Shill test:
Women are feral, blindly following ancient instincts from prehistoric times, which instincts tell them to cruise for rape by alpha male Chads, and to resist kicking-and-screaming all attempts to restrain them from pursuing alpha male Chads. Stable monogamy has always been a way to allow each man to own a woman so each man can start a family and raise a future generation for civilisation’s survival. If women are emancipated, Miss Average will waste her youth, her beauty, and her fertility fucking Mister One in Thirty, thus a people, a race, a nation, a faith, or an empire that emancipates women will perish for lack of families, leading to lack of sons. Men have to impose stable monogamy on women with a stick.
Disclosure:
I am a national socialist, and this blog is important to me because cryptocurrency is the best defense we have against Jewish financial tyranny/debt slavery. I believe Jim doesn’t fully understand what he’s up against, and why national socialism is the logical path to freedom.
The trouble with national socialism is socialism. Germany was hungry because socialism immediately caused German agriculture to fail, and then caused agriculture in every country that Germany conquered to fail.
Socialism always fails. We have tried in over and over again for the past few thousand years, always with the same result for the same reasons.
Hitler invaded Russia just when the crisis of socialism — running out of other people’s stuff — was biting German military logistics.
Socialism works great when you are stealing last year’s harvest, but then the next year, comes the bread lines.
We have quite a few examples of Trump’s national capitalism failing, but we have rather more examples of it succeeding, South Korea being a huge success. Russia had national capitalism imposed on it by outside forces, and when Trump was talking sanctions relief, the national capitalists immediately started lobbying Putin against sanctions relief.
(A Christian Socialist boogeyman would be more interesting to exorcize than a National Socialist one. CR initially appeared more as the former, but rapidly revealed himself to be the latter. Boring.)
And you just so happened to feel this was essential to bring up during discussion of an incident for which there is no known connection to any Jew. Not the shooter, not his live-in boyfriend, not his Discord buddies (as far as we know), not the victim, not the boomer patsy on the scene, not the TV personalities and print journalists saying he had it coming. Not a bagel in sight. What an astonishing coincidence!
OK, you passed the copypasta test. Let’s see if you can pass a basic responsiveness test and demonstrate basic situational awareness. What should your ideal Nazi society do with poofs, and what should it do with troons?
The Reich was also far from a free society even outside economic matters, as Yarvin said there were no chess clubs only national socialist chess clubs. He also once talked about how a cat magazine later would talk about “the German cat”. You can plausibly argue that National Socialism was a path to bootstrapping a beaten down countries way to being capable of waging total war and becoming a world power if perhaps not ideally executed and I’m sure you will argue that it was essential to breaking the pernicious evil influence of jewish finance and other jewish influences (I disagree that was the cause of Germany’s problems as much as sincere national socialists think but you can make that argument).
But its very hard to argue that it was to be the path to freedom because I don’t think Adolf Hitler himself would argue that. The 3rd Reich was a total state, everything was subject to Gleichschaltung.
Dolfin:
For what it’s worth, I am probably a national socialist, too—at least to the extent to which I understand the proposition. Jim is a man of serious ideas, though, whereas Hitler, Hess and Rosenberg are no longer here to debate; so I have been considering Jim’s advice on the topic during recent years.
Jim has not persuaded me yet, either. The thing about the Nazis that is so very attractive is that the Nazis have all the right enemies.
Well, that, and the SS uniforms.
Perhaps a difference of opinion over Hitler’s mid-20th-century German political movement matters little in the 21st-century United States—different times, different problems—or maybe it matters much. Either way, I have not yet achieved enlightenment in the matter.
Do they? Recall the Canadian parliament honoring an actual SS officer.
Soros and the US State Department have been sponsoring Nazism since before the fall of the Soviet Union. The major center of US funded Nazism was Canada, where it was and is CIA funded, but when the Soviet Union fell, the State Department and USAID went big time funding Nazism in the Ukraine. Blinken and Nuland installed the most Jewish government outside of Israel, and the most Nazi government since the third Reich.
Harvard had just had a conference in on the Ukraine in which the leading Harvard advocate appeared in “traditional” Ukrainian costume (a very recently invented tradition, like most things supposedly Ukrainian, the official Ukrainian religion appeared in 2018, and the Ukrainian language continues to be manufactured in real time)
Then there is “Third Position”, a state sponsored political movement that whose pursuit of political leadership in the left is getting major sponsorship by the geriatric left and the big corporate left, despite the fact that they are lightly rebranded Strasser variant of Nazism, founded shortly after the night of the long knives to promote their version of Nazism outside of Germany. The big attraction for the left corporates is that Third Position are promising Nazi socialism, of which the quasi state corporations are the major beneficiaries, and Third Positionists are not calling for the guts of landlords and “fascists” to ripped out in the streets. The FIRE economy is already mostly Nazi style socialist, so the big FIRE corporations are fine with National Socialism, just as the newly minted National Capitalists of Russia do not want sanctions ended.
Fixing Europe in the 21st century will likely require a Great Man with Hitler-like energies, but the memetic content of original Nazism has become mostly irrelevant in this context. I.e., the Red-Green Alliance is not quite the same demon as Judeo-Bolshevism, albeit parallels certainly exist.
https://x.com/Cobratate/status/1970132572987396437
Tate gets it right, the elite need to be taught “race science”.
Jim: when you say “other people’s stuff”, are you referring to food imports, or land? Hitler wanted more land because he didn’t want to be reliant on other people’s stuff- that is, he wanted agricultural self-sufficiency, since Germans had been heavily reliant on food imports, causing them to starve in WWI.
Daddy Scarebucks: The reason I brought up NatSoc is that I don’t want to be later accused of being a shill or having a hidden agenda.
I would ban sexual degeneracy from public society. People can do what they want in private, but it needs to stay in the bedroom.
Jim: Which core tenets of NatSoc are held by these State Department/USAID funded “Nazi” groups? Or are they just nationalists that like to use fascist symbols?
Land does not magically bring forth food. Food production in Germany fell considerably, and rationing came into effect long before the war started. Then, when the war begun, everywhere Germany conquered food production collapsed.
The fallacy of socialism is to assume that production just happens. It does not just happen. Capitalists make it happen.
Nazism is a form of 1930s leftism. Leftist factions are always allying, always fighting, and always murdering each other. And their core principles are always changing. The original Hitler Nazis fought communists, then they allied with communists, then they fought communists again. Leftism has no essence. Its core principles are merely the tactics of the moment for taking power.
In their never ending internal conflicts, the leftmost always wins, and each faction is always re-inventing leftism to make themselves the leftmost. Right now the leftmost is whoever has the longest list of people who need to be killed. The big corporate leftists are horrified by this, and want to make third position the leftmost. If third position becomes the leftmost, the core principles of Strasser Nazism will become the core principles of State Department/USAID
Remember Orwell’s hate week? We have always been at war with EastAsia. Remember the friends of Clinton. Most of them were leftists.
Have you read Wilford Hugh’s America’s Great Game? It should tell you why I, a horrible disgusting zio-shill, have been sperging out about CIA Nazis. To be sure, I’m no fan of the (((neo-cons))) either; naturally however an Israeli would be very worried about the memetic descendants of CIA Arabists, just as surely as a Russian would be very worried about the memetic descendants of Gladio B, aka Azovites.
Unlike fellow oven-dodgers, I don’t attack Tucker for being “paid off by Qatar.” He has his strengths and his weaknesses, and there’s no need to bring Qatar into this – he is CIA, and on Israel, he has in recent years become sympathetic/connected to the Arabist faction documented by Hugh Wilford, alas. (Also, for the record, I think Patrick Buchanan is great.) But otherwise Tucker is good, and I enjoyed watching him on Fox News.
It wouldn’t be right to call them Arabists, since Saudi Arabia and the UAE have been taken over by saner leaders who are uninterested in jihad the Arabs seem cautiously okay with Israel. Probably their idea is that okay we know we Arabs can’t really develop high technology but knowing what we did with Dubai we can build a good society with existing society. Mohammed Bin Salman, the UAE leaders, the King of Jordan look at Israel as potentially the Middle East’s Silicon Valley/Bell Labs and since they don’t really like the Palestinians they don’t want to fuck that up…
I’m against the Israel lobby to the extent they lobby for wars but they are hardly the only foreign lobby. I don’t quite understand the fixation on them.
Jim, your last comment raises so many distinct points that I cannot address them all together with reasonable brevity. If I understand, in Russia and the Ukraine, “Nazi” is more or less a synonym for “anti-Russian,” whereas I was using the word in the common, American/German sense. Hitler suppressed Strasser and cannot be held answerable for Soros. FIRE is three things, the first of which is disproportionately Jewish, the second of which is unpleasant but effective in the way that a latrine is unpleasant but effective, and the third of which Congress could largely fix if it wished. I know little about the Canadian parliament but do not believe that the CIA is a Nazi outfit.
If you wish me to expand upon a particular point, I will try.
the Canadian Parliament celebrated Yaroslav Hunka, who belonged to the military wing of Adolf Hitler’s Nazi Party.
“True” Nazism is like “true” communism.
If one set of core principles is not working, leftists have plenty more lying around.
Your original claim was that Nazis have the right enemies. I proceeded to produce an enormous swarm of examples of Nazis having the wrong friends.
And here is another:. Before the Ukrainian coup, the left would always call everyone a Nazi. After the Ukrainian coup, they now call everyone a fascist.
Before the Ukrainian coup, Hitler was the definition of evil, the core identity of everything that the left hated. After the coup, he seemed to quietly slip their minds.
While we’re on the topic of socialism, what is the opinion here on the land reforms carried out in the Northeast Asia countries and Taiwan? Clearly it didn’t kill them in the end, but was it detrimental?
On one hand, property confiscation almost never, or simply never, I’m not sure, results in better management of the property. Yet, massive Latifundias seem inefficient, and create a lazy upper class when compared to industrial and martial elites. Is breaking up large mismanaged landholdings to be distributed to the serfs as a once in several generations deal, like a sort of jubilee, ever a reasonable policy?
The Taiwan land reforms were pretty good, being land to the tiller, rather than land to a committee of leftists.
Similarly, the Enclosures in England, which were also a land redistribution from aristocrats to commoners. The left were outraged by the enclosures, and remain outraged to this day. The land redistribution carried out by Alexander the liberator, on the other hand, which leftists love, and love to this day, was a catastrophic disaster from which Russia is only now recovering, since the peasants were given the land collectively, rather than individually, which in practice meant that the leftists got the land and the peasants did not, creating a permanent powerful and well funded group of leftists seeking ever more power and funding.
All land was stolen time after time, and stealing it again does not do much harm provided it does not happen too often, and it can be beneficial if it winds up in the hands of people competent to use it and free to maximise return from the land. Stealing is leftist, but competence and putting capital to the highest use is rightist. Thus the enclosures and the Taiwanese land reforms were in substantial part rightist. Indeed the enclosures were very much rightist, because they in large part took the land from absentee lords living in London, and gave it to people who got their hands in the dirt.
What provoked the enclosures was absentee lords not doing their job.
I bring up land reform as prelude to the real question I wanted to discuss: how do we handle all these firms and financial institutions that have been propped up by government policy and especially Cantillon effect beneficiaries?
It looks to me like we have the recreation of the latifundia combined with soviet economics. It has to go, and yet these firms are so big, just pulling the life support will cause the metaphorical house to collapse on everyone, leftist and rightist alike.
Ideally I would like to just have the leftists get their consensual swimming lessons and the fake economic policies revoked, but there’s not enough healthy economy underneath to prevent total misery and disaster. Any ideas how we do ‘land to the tiller’ when the land is rights to securities and investments, and the latifundia are zombie firms that are running the entire fake economy?
No it will not. They will just quietly vanish without a ripple.
The real economy, people producing and distributing actual goods and services used by actual people will continue unaffected, and no one will notice, except that the removal of parasites will allow the real economy to recover.
I’d estimate at least 50% if not more than 70% of the US workforce is directly employed by the government or working for a firm that would collapse if the government stopped feeding them cash. That’s not going to be a quiet exit.
The real jobs are… soybean farming, some manufacturing/assembly but mostly for domestic use, logistics companies, repair/maintenance of real estate (from framing to plumbing) and automobiles.
You cut the fake money, the insanely leveraged REITs collapse, there goes the few remaining domestic real estate builders. You cut the fake email jobs, starbucks and doordash and amazon dies, there goes all the service and logistics workers. Everyone is broke and having to repair or scrap their own car, handle their own plumbing, electric work, there goes the mechanics, plumbers, electricians, etc. On and on. It would be like cutting out a mass of tumors without bothering to retie or cauterize the blood vessels they were attached to, just catastrophic.
You need a controlled demolition plan, otherwise you’re going to get lots and lots of misery for innocent greengrocers, and you’re going to bleed out much of the tiny bit of productive economy as well.
Do the people who actually build stuff disappear? What disappears is the swarm of businesses living off the revolving door between actual builders and regulators of building.
I have actually attempted to build stuff, and I know people who have actually built stuff. There will be an explosion of new building once the FIRE economy vanishes in smoke. There is this vast network of contractors who actually build stuff, and the revolving door economy has a noose around their necks and is pulling it ever tighter.
I spent a whole lot of money on bagmen who bribed for approvals, and eventually gave up, realising that without all the right connections and influence I would never be allowed to build. Had I secured all the necessary ever multiplying approvals, actually physically building would have been easy. Take down the FIRE economy, and I will be building.
Controlled demo isn’t possible, you give out a food dole you deport every undesirable foreigner and you let the real economy heal. There is going to be some bad years like with the Fall of the Soviet Union.
The reason the Soviet transition was bad was that their only capitalist class was the unofficially tolerated mafia, who really were not up to the job of running a modern economy. It took quite a while for businessmen who could trust each other to grow to operate the economy. The fake economy in the US is not trying to replace the real economy, just parasitize upon it. We have an adeuate class of real capitalists. Just shut down the fake GDP economy, and the real economy will continue without a ripple.
I disagree and my primary example is x.com
Musk took a cancerous mass of leftists, excised the tumors, left an almost functional company behind. Would be actually functional if he were not cockblocked by regulators and integrated direct payments.
Obviously you’re going to be having a lot of pain, but there might be a way to minimize actual destruction during the process. Like an aquired company having its productive assets looted and the rest discarded.
Your example itself demonstrates the folly of the idea, you are talking about one company and it was mostly a matter of clearing out leftist bloat, and Musk and my oldfriend Spiro still were sleeping at headquarters for a couple months. Can’t do that with a whole economy too complicated.
I did say the word “demolition” alongside the word controlled. I have a feeling that a transition could be done well, or at least done less poorly. You cannot prevent all the pain it would cause to innocent grill-normies, but perhaps you could lessen the damage along the way. Big organizations likely have functional teams that could be lost forever by allowing an unmanaged collapse. What you want is to go through and empower people like Musk to be able to do so in every one of these zombie organizations, and so I suppose the question is how do you find them and how do you give them the power to do this surgery.
I fear that you are pushing against an open door, Jim. The word Nazi probably describes me accurately but I have not come with a strong drive to defend national socialism today. The word Nazi (as in Hitler, Hess, Rosenberg) merely, more or less accurately describes me as far as I know.
I had never heard of Hunka but there are millions of Nazis of whom I have never heard. Three cheers for the Canadian parliament, I guess. Hunka must have been a great guy.
If you say so, but then what are we even talking about?
I dispute that the Nazis were leftists. Strasser will not avail you. The Nazis abandoned him.
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My answer grows lengthy and I would cut it short here if you were not in the habit of admonishing commenters for unresponsiveness. Attempting to respond, therefore, I suppose that the canonical test of leftism asks on which side of the president’s chair in the French National Constituent Assembly of 1789 the putative leftist would have sat. I do not know enough about 18th-century France to answer, but if (with a search engine’s help) I may appeal to an era less distant, a paywalled editorial in The New York Times dated Dec. 9, 1931, reads in part:
There may exist other, significant, contemporaneous writings that regard the Nazis as leftists, but I have not read them.
I suppose that one could define left and right in some unusual way to make the Nazis leftists, but am skeptical that one could do so without warping the meaning of the words beyond customary recognition.
I did not know this. When used as pejoratives by the left, the words Nazi and fascist sound like synonyms in my ears, so I probably would not have picked up the shift in terminology. I shall take your word for it.
As to the Ukraine per se, please notice that I have already addressed the Ukrainian point. In that part of the world, “Nazi” mainly just means, “anti-Russian.”
Hitler’s time is now so long ago that Hitler’s name no longer inspires much more terror in gentile ears than the names of Napoleon or of Tamerlane do. This alone suffices to explain why Hitler has quietly slipped leftists’ minds, without bringing the Ukraine into it.
Jim, with respect, most of your examples are not examples of mainline Nazis or are not examples of Nazis at all. Either they are Strasserites (although I had not known that any Strasserites still existed), or they are Nazis only in the way the Russians misuse the word, or they are examples of persons some midwit or bad actor has decided to impugn by calling them Nazis.
You have not explicitly mentioned Stepan Bandera but you might have. Maybe Bandera was indeed a Nazi and maybe he wasn’t. Bandera might have liked SS uniforms as much as I do (and why shouldn’t he?), and if the German Drang nach Osten suited his purpose, so much the better. However, if you believe that George Soros is a Nazi, then I think that you have lost the plot.
I cannot comment on Third Position. I know almost nothing about it.
Jim, respectfully, I love your blog, but you are not the only one here with limited time available. I do not wish to respond to “an enormous swarm of examples” point by point. Is there any particular point I have skipped which you wish me to address?
Observe all the internet shills going Joo Joo Joo Mossad Joo Israel Joo Joo Rothschilds Rothschilds Joo Joo.
Observe their strange inability to notice any evil acts by today’s powerful evil Jews, such as (((Soros))) and (((Blinken))). Much as the troofers were unable to notice any bad acts by the FBI.
And then we have Victoria Nuland installing a bunch of Nazis in the world’s second most Jewish government.
Not true Nazism sounds very like not true communism.
OK, Hitler, the great bogyman and exemplar of evil until 2014, was presumably true Nazism.
National Socialism buggered agriculture in every country it touched from 1933 onwards, plus Hitler declared war on America when he was already up to his neck in alligators, plus Hitler allowed Churchill to bait him into indiscriminate bombing rather than highly targeted bombing.
These actions flowed directly from Nazi ideology, and every Nazi everywhere always makes analogous errors, much as the The Great Leap Forward was result of taking the Marxist theory of value seriously and sincerely.
Okay, that is an intellectually exercising boogeyman. Not gonna challenge him since kike and it would be awkward for me to “oy vey nazism,” but kudos.
Classic lefty non-answer, no thoughtcrime detected.
Obviously you can’t regulate what people do “in the privacy of their own bedrooms” because you don’t know what they’re doing in their own bedrooms. So instead of addressing the individual pathology or its consequences, or in any way acknowledging that fags, troons and other perverts cause problems far beyond the mere public display of their perversion, your answer invokes “consenting adults” absurdity to evade the issue entirely.
Ok, so you’ve made it illegal in your hypothetical Nazi utopia. Used to be illegal in lots of places, including Weimar Germany if I’m not mistaken. They don’t care, they do it anyway. What is your response? What is society’s response? And are all types of “sexual degeneracy” the same, all meriting exactly the same punishment?
It’s like you think we all have the brains of concussed goldfish, not realizing what you guys are up to. Commie troons just fired off the first shots of a civil war? Doesn’t matter, let’s talk about Nazi Nazi Nazi and Joo Joo Joo!
Oh come on, are you people for real?
“How do you do fellow right-wing reactionaries, my first post was yesterday but rest assured I am a long-time reader and a big fan, and truly felt you’d all benefit greatly from a refresher on fifty-year-old arguments about National Socialism, because during these troubling times it’s more important than ever to focus your attention on failed ideologies instead of real-world problems. By the way, my time is extremely valuable, but definitely not because I am paid by the post, it’s because I am actually a respected businessman and industrialist as far as you know, and you should all be deeply honored that I was willing to take a moment out of my busy schedule to enlighten you.”
They really aren’t sending their best.
Jim:
“rationing came into effect long before the war started.”
No, it began right when Germany invaded Poland.
“everywhere Germany conquered food production collapsed.”
Such is war.
“The original Hitler Nazis fought communists, then they allied with communists, then they fought communists again.”
Well, the same is true of the American government with regard to the USSR, but the US Government itself was never communist. Alliances of convenience do not necessarily indicate a change in ideology.
Hitler was a consistent and vocal opponent of Marxist communism for his entire life. To him “national socialism” meant the government ought to ensure the common well-being of its citizens, a belief I find hard to refute.
“In their never ending internal conflicts, the leftmost always wins, and each faction is always re-inventing leftism to make themselves the leftmost. Right now the leftmost is whoever has the longest list of people who need to be killed.”
Again, this is untrue of Hitler, who purged the leftmost members of his own party to solidify power.
Communism is when you expropriate the real estate holdings of BlackRock/Blackstone and manage them yourself; NatSoc is when you expropriate their real estate and give it back to the American people, as Hitler did to his country’s Jewish speculators.
Like any leftist, Hitler gave it to political activists, who failed to put capital to its highest and best use, unlike those Jews. The Nazi political activists ate the seed corn, and at the time of Operation Barbarossa, found they were running out of seed corn.
Blackrock and company are totally in favor of Nazi style socialism — they are the people who are promoting “third position”, because they are already intertwined with the state, and want the man who makes pizza and the man who lays bricks to be as entwined with the state as they are.
The crisis of socialism, running out of other people’s stuff, did not hit the allies until 1949. It hit Germany rather earlier.
Nazi Germany, just like every socialist country, took over the running of the economy in every detail. They did not “give it the people”, because the people would not know what to do with it. But the trouble with socialism is that the government does not know what to do with either. Husbanding capital is hard. Can you make a pencil? What would you do with the capital of a pencil maker if it was “given to the people”?
Socialists think that goods and services rain from the sky, and whenever they get to impose socialism, they suffer a rude awakening.
Daddy Scarebucks:
“What is your response? What is society’s response? And are all types of “sexual degeneracy” the same, all meriting exactly the same punishment?”
Obviously they aren’t all the same. A fag will get executed for raping kids, but not for wearing a rainbow flag t-shirt. The punishment should be proportionate to the size of the threat to public well-being.
“It’s like you think we all have the brains of concussed goldfish, not realizing what you guys are up to. Commie troons just fired off the first shots of a civil war? Doesn’t matter, let’s talk about Nazi Nazi Nazi and Joo Joo Joo!”
We can talk about more than one thing at a time, you know. Relax.
Oh come on. Give them an inch and they will take a mile. Gays have to go into the closet, because if we allow them to advertise their sexuality they will shove it right in your face. For reproductive sex to be normative, gay sexuality has to be non normative. And if you allow them to advertise their sexuality, then the natural relationship of males and females will become non normative.
You misunderstand- advertising homosexuality would still be illegal. I just wouldn’t administer the death penalty for it.
D.S.: I am just commenting. You are right: I cannot prove that I have been reading for years, any more than I can prove that I am not Kunning Druegger.
Jim: my cursory initial investigation of your point regarding Nazi food production seems to support your position. Screwing up national food production is a serious matter. Screwing it up and then failing, after three or four years of practical results, to admit the mistake is even worse.
Yours seems to be the soundest reason anyone has given me in a long time not to be a Nazi.
Hahahaha, another perfectly evasive non-answer from an obvious homo. “I guess it shouldn’t be against the law, or something, as long as there’s no actual enforcement or punishment or anything!” Is it any coincidence that these “100% Natural National Socialists” would have felt right at home in Weimar Germany?
Normies are finally waking up to the threat of the lavender mafia, and “poofs off roofs” is starting to go mainstream, so the poofters are all showing up in droves, wearing their Nazi Halloween costumes, saying “can’t we blame someone else for this, like Jews? There’s got to be one around here somewhere!”
These clowns aren’t Azov Nazis, they’re not even Quantico Nazis, they’re just a bunch of fags pointing and shouting “hey, look over there!”
You realize that there’s plenty of middle ground between “legal” and “punishable by death”? The only ones who would kill all those who disagree are those who cannot conceive of themselves being wrong- that is, people who are incapable of learning and should be nowhere near any sort of power.
Killing all fags is not just unpopular, it’s impossible. Forcing them back into the closet is popular and has a long historical precedent. My approach is simply pragmatic.
Also, you are oddly defensive about Jews. You jumped right to the “joo joo” straw man. Why is that? I’ve barely mentioned them.
Killing all fags that get in people’s faces is entirely doable. We have to create a society in which people can comfortably forget that fags exist, because they are all in the closet. If they stay in the closet, we do not care what they get up to inside the closet.
The proposition being disputed is what you should do if someone wears a rainbow flag. If someone can get away with wearing a rainbow flag, this is intolerable because it reminds normies that fags exist.
Libertarians keep saying “privacy of your bedroom”. Deviants have always had the privacy of their bedrooms. The problem is always them coming out in public. It has to end.
The most crucial thing is to physically remove them from priesthoods (broadly defined), since that’s where they do the most damage. The same applies — though in a somewhat different way — to Jews outside Israel and to Hindus outside India: some people you just do not want to be in charge of your society’s memeplex, because they are inherently, overwhelmingly subversive. Just look at the state of the Catholic Church, where closeted fags have embedded themselves.
To remove fags, kikes, and jeets from your priesthood, need a Christian (and pro-white) state religion. Tanks in Harvard!
The Democrats have been calling for terror actions against ABC. I have no idea whether Newscum was personally involved in targeting this particular ABC facility, but he was personally involved in instantly releasing the attacker without threat assessment.
When they are shipped to Alaska they should never come back.
Shipped via long march to be followed by conveniently lost in wilderness.
Let’s not waste gasoline.
There is useful infrastructure to be developed in Alaska which otherwise is cost prohibitive, I would want them as much is practical to work…
Good point.
https://www.lifesitenews.com/analysis/california-bishops-side-with-democrats-on-bill-critics-call-a-kidnappers-dream/
A way to acquire nubiles, Deutoronomy style?!
The intent of the bill is to allow poofter schoolteachers to arrange for the adbuction of schoolchildren by their fuck buddies. So you would have to be in the Lavender Mafia to utilise it.
https://patriots.win/p/1AR0ZUYkZI/-now-the-true-scope-of-the-crowd/c
As of an hour ago, an estimated 300K people have gathered so far for Charlie Kirk’s memorial service.
Heavenly Father, please protect them from those who reject your Son.
I hate to say it, but more martyrs are required to solidify hearts on the right.
This is a deeply concerning and disturbing read. The rhetoric here is inflammatory and promotes fear, suggesting a dangerous escalation of political conflict.
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While calling someone a sexist et cetera is of course totally not menacing and inflammatory rhetoric that would cause a reasonable person to fear for his life and the lives of his family🙃
Since the election, seeing a culture shift in the military, the PR efforts reflect. Take a look at The 75th Ranger Regiment’s Youtube channel for example.
“Doing God’s work”
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Qww5nKdIbZk
“Whatever it takes”, fighting, football, masculine
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/nGwHRX-Fx4w
“War is coming, you know that”
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/PWl6-1oSUek
Elite units have changed their PR the fastest, but the standard is being moved overall.
Marines “Striking Fear in Our Enemies”
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Fc85tcKo5R4
Recruiting numbers have been the best in decades. Up 56% compared to 2004, which is remarkable.
Although much work still remains to be done, I think it’s safe to say the military is well on the way to being secured by our guys.
Police astonished the Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville, Va., 2017, by suppressing the Right while allowing lawless Antifa to run wild. The private sympathies of individual policemen did little to prevent the police from acting in concert as the muscular arm of a tyrannical state.
I have never been a policeman but have been a serviceman and unfortunately can report that, in the heat of confrontation, servicemen like policemen are apt to follow orders reflexively. Basic military training sees to this. As far as I know, only officers influence policy to any practical extent, and even then only from the rank of full colonel or naval captain on up. Thus, although one may fill the recruiting barracks with our guys, filling those barracks regrettably might not help as much as you hope.
To fill the barracks with our guys is better than nothing, but still, it might not help as much as you hope.
I’m well aware that servicemen follow orders. I’ve expressed this often in the past. But that’s besides the implicit indicator that these ads provide. The only way these types of ads could’ve been made in today’s political culture are reactionaries (SecWar Hegseth) at the top forcing down a massive culture shift. It signifies they are well on their way of taking control of the bureaucracy.
That is what I meant by “I think it’s safe to say the military is well on the way to being secured by our guys”. Not that it’s being filled up at the bottom by our people, but that our guys (SecWar Hegseth and company are overt Christian Nationalists) are winning. This is very different from the first Trump administration which found itself unable to get anything done through DOD bureaucracy and often was outright sabotaged by the Generals themselves (Gen. Milley among many others).
We’re seeing a massive effort to overhaul DOW that would have been politically unthinkable just a few years ago, and all indicators point to its success.
On the other hand, they astonished the left by backing Musk’s second coup. Getting cops and military to obey criminal orders is delicate, complicated, and requires careful preparation. Musk got immunity because backed by authority and striking swiftly with surprise on his side. They did not have enough time to ensure that the cops would follow orders.
I was there in 2020 when one of the statues was torn down. I won’t say which one, because I’m not an idiot. It was nothing like what was portrayed on TV and in newspapers. It wasn’t a mob the authorities couldn’t control, and it wasn’t a rapid, clandestine strike by a skilled stealth team of black-clad “activists.” It was a boring, barely-competent, bureaucratic, officially-unofficial government action, and law enforcement was an officially-unofficial part of it.
A small group of half a dozen Hutu commies milled around for 45 minutes, bumblingly attaching chains and ropes to the statue, and eventually pulling it over with a pickup truck. I’m sure anyone reading this could have done the job in half the time with half the manpower. But anyway, there were five or six state troopers, standing around and watching the whole thing. It would have been simple for them to arrest the vandals, or even just chase them away, but they were there to make sure that no members of the public would dare interfere with this most holy destructive sacrament.
My point is, law enforcement is very much on the enemy’s side.
No it is not. They had to very carefully prepare, select and supervise those six cops, or else it would have gone south. The five or six cops watching the statue removal were probably outnumbered by HR staff watching the cops.
Maybe so, but the fact is the cops did it. They probably voted Republican. They probably thought it was stupid, or even disgraceful. They probably did have HR looking over their shoulders. They still did it, just like they’ll do anything and everything their masters bid them. As the regime’s pets blatantly and incompetently broke the law right in front of them, attacking their symbols, their people, their heritage, the cops protected them from the public. Trump won an election, but he is not the regime. We are not the regime. The regime is a hundred thousand bureaucrats, judges, and journalists, every one of them a Left-wing lunatic.
Many of us have done very bad things because we wanted to keep our jobs. But demonstrably, it is very difficult to make cops obey when they are ordered to do bad things.
The legions will salute the emperor.
Dave wins on brevity. That’s what I was trying to say.
>I think it’s safe to say the military is well on the way to being secured by our guys.
That’s not safe to say at all. You’ve got a couple recruiting and propaganda videos that express the very mildest crimethink. It’s lies and mind control to get young, White, right-leaning men to fight for the globohomo beast. That’s the whole reason they put Trump in, and there’s no sign that he’s escaped their control.
>“Striking Fear in Our Enemies”
Who do you think those enemies are? In the minds of the propaganda officers who made that video, they are DVEs and white supremacist domestic terrorists. You, me, Jim, and anyone else who doesn’t vomit in horror when reading this blog.
>“War is coming, you know that”
Yes. Civil war. Against terrorist white supreeeemist DVEs like you and me. Be ready, soldier, to fight for what you believe in: our democracy and the arc of history which bends toward justice.
Observed behavior of cops is that they remarkably ineffectual when leftists order them to do bad things.
The left has been trying to create an anti American military and an anti american police force for years. If they have been restrained from continuing their efforts to build an anti American military, then they are no longer in control of the military.
>very mildest crimethink
The left has become incapable of expressing even the most mildest of crimethink without being labled a Nazi-Fascist-Hitler. Even the normie right will shy away from talk of “God’s Work” in public. Something significant happened at the top for this to be approved, and it’s SecWar being a Christian Nationalist bringing in a bunch of other Christian Nationalists into top level positions. Yes, what they are saying now is modest crimethink, but I’ve gone to the Churches in the DMV area and personally heard what the preachers say, and I can guarantee you there’s a lot more crimethink going on than you’d think.
>Who do you think those enemies are?
Well originally we were gearing up for a fight against just the cartels, but recent events have made it clear much of the left’s pet projects are now on the chopping block. Trantifa, violent criminals, etc.
I’ve been to churches in this area, recently. A Reform Baptist place and a LCMS place. No crimethink to be found. Don’t reveal the church, but please share what the actual crimethink message was, because I find it hard to believe.
America should be a Christian Theocracy. Women submit to their husbands. Repeal the 19th. Make sodomy a felony again.
If it were anyone else writing, I would not believe it. I’ll look harder next time I’m in the area.
I have to admit I was writing sloppy. If it gives the impression that many of the Churches in DMV are that based, I was wrong. But what I’m getting at is there’s a lot more than what you’d expect for how leftist the area is. My perception might also be skewed by a freaky incident last year.
A fellow junior officer asked if I was a neoreactionary after we had a brief (heavily self censored) discussion about Christian theology. It mightily surprised me. I hadn’t thought I said anything overt. He ended up inviting me to a Church in Northern Virginia where the pasture gave a sermon almost exactly on the (very Jimian) topic we were discussing but without any censorship. It surprised me because all the other Churches I had gone to in the area were pretty dead, but once you find one living Church, becomes remarkably easier to find the others. They network between each other.
More recently this year, there is a rapidly growing number of Christian Nationalists that moved in or were brought in to the DMV area with the 2nd Trump administration. They brought their Churches with them. These are the people who are getting invited to the White House and Pentagon prayers (now a monthly occurrence much to media hysteria).
The local and national media has been bitching about these new arrivals, so not hard at all to find, but I won’t list any because I’d rather not tell the whole wide world where exactly I’ve been. Keep some plausible deniability. What’s a lot harder is finding or getting invited to the Bible study groups.
Wonderful to hear.
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Possibly you thought this was responsive, in that you were claiming that a celibate priesthood is celibate. But you failed to acknowledge the widespread claim that a celibate priesthood is practice not all that celibate, let alone respond to evidence and arguments for it.
Trouble is that the number of men who prefer to have zero penis in vagina sex vastly outnumbers the number of men who prefer to have zero sex, and the substitutes for penis in vagina sex that they prefer are revolting and wicked. And one category of those men are very good at conspiring in a great big naked pile, and we see a lot of such conspiracy. Notoriously, the Vatican is full of gays.
Plus scripture repeatedly commands that the priesthood be recruited from men with families who have successfully raised their children, because they have demonstrated competence in a the role that a priest is supposed to perform, guiding the flock, and because we can be more confident we know the character of such men.
You are not only unresponsive to me. You are unresponsive to scripture. You are failing to engage your interlocutor’s arguments. A responsive reply would at least reveal that your interlocutor believes that a celibate priesthood necessarily and unavoidably contains a dangerously large number of disgusting perverts, (Origen), and try to explain away and rationalise the scriptural commands on recruitment.
A claim that Churches doctrines are unchanging has to explain why they are so very different from the scriptures of the apostles.
They’re all going to be sent to the Eastern Front at this rate. Don is propping up the Yewkay and parroting the ‘Russian escalation’ lie. Be careful, and be glad you’re in intel.
Trump says a lot of shit to keep Thermidor on board, but look at his actions, material support for Ukraine trends in one direction. None. There are now reports that Ukraine has now resorted to participating in terrorism in Africa in order to get funding.
There have also been some quiet changes at Pentagon. War planing is now primarily focused on North America, not China or Russia. Speculation is that after US failed to secure naval security against the Houthis, Pentagon realized there was no way it could deal with China.
My lying eyes.
Does anybody else think Charlie Kirk’s neck wound, with no exit wound, is inconsistent with what one would expect by being shot in the neck with a 30-06? The close up video I saw showed a nickel or quarter sized wound followed by the subsequent blood spirt. If there was no exit would, i.e. no simple punch through, this would mean the bullet dissipated its energy in his neck, perhaps as an expanding round or direct hit on a cervical vertebrae. If this were the case I would expect a wound somewhat like a partial decapitation, not a quarter sized hole!!
For a similar case, look at JFK’s head going splat!
I’ve read and seen analysis that suggests he was wearing metal body armor, which is good for being discreet and can stop a bullet, but is a well known problem that it can send a bullet’s worth of fragments towards your face if not outright potentially deflecting the entire bullet there.
Obviously there had to be punch through. What leads you to believe there was not?
I seen unsourced claims the autopsy report said there was no exit wound.
Lots of links via a search. Here’s one below. Now all the media is claiming this inconsistency is just conspiracy mongers, even though it occurred to me independently as soon as they claimed the shooter used a 30-06.
https://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/charlie-kirk-didnt-have-exit-wound-turning-point-spokesperson-says/
If no exit wound, very odd.
Correction Bullet hit Charlie Kirk’s titanium alloy body armour. Dissipated its energy in the body armor, and deflected up into his neck.
Hat tip our expert on hurting people and breaking things, Pax Imperialis.
No punch through. Round impacts upper area of body armor, deflects upwards through his neck into the head. Lots of energy bleed off from the deflection and lots of bone for the bullet/fragments to lodge itself in.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6zPjo5Vogc
Key takeaway, if you’re going to use body armor, use composite.
Thank. This makes much more sense. You can skip over all the jabber and start seeing the real analysis at about 3:31.
Wow, funny to think the bullet might not have been fatal if not deflected…
Talk about a false sense of security…
I’ve wondered before if the FBI isn’t in the habit of getting the right guy, then framing him anyway just to make sure. The insurance shooter for one; I’m prepared to believe the guy with a botched back surgery, and whose mother was in chronic pain, offed an insurance exec. Then they caught him wearing the same clothes, still carrying the murder weapon, carrying his own written manifesto/confession, while he was on his laptop at a McDonald’s. Off a tip by a worker (who never received the reward). Did he really, or were they making damn sure they get a conviction? And did they really get lucky with the tip, or was that parallel construction to hide tracing him by datamining?
Then with Kirk’s assassin – he got his rifle up to the roof, got it down off the roof, wrapped it in a towel that just happened to have his dna on it (ew), and stashed it in the woods before departing. That was nice of him; he could have just dropped it and walked. While anons in other basements of the internet are claiming audio triangulation shows a shot closer and lower to the ground than the rooftop.
To be clear, I have no doubt that the gay furry tranny-fucker who tee-heed a confession on his antifa discord channel either was the shooter or was part of the team. But it sure did get wrapped up with a bow really quickly.
If any of that were the case it would be possible to pick up on discrepancies in the official story, while the broad outline were still correct.
Energy ranges of typical rounds, Ek = 0.5m * v^2
.50BMG 14000lb 2930ft
.460WeaMag 7504lb 2600ft
.458WinMag 5000lb 2400ft
.30_06Spr 2925lb 2700ft
.308Win/7.62Nato 2640lb 2800ft
5.56Nato 1300lb 3025ft
.44Mag 950lb 1325ft
.40/45/357/9mm 495lb 1140ft
.38/.380 250lb 795ft
.22LR 165lb 1475ft
The kid ripped that guys arm up with an AR-15 during the riots.
Plenty of 5.56 canoeing videos during the mideast/ukraine wars.
Skulls are pretty thin and watermelony, crack and pop.
Necks are thick conduit bones (think double walled gap sandwich armor), held together by a lot of strong flexy bands.
Low power stuff gets stuck in bodies all the time.
For a 30 rifle to not blow even a fragment through a neck would probably have required a very lucky direct bone-lodging hit, with said bone dislocating into the energy absorbing bands, chest rippled from the spinal impact energy.
Body armor theory is reasonably sound too.
If no vest was visibly obvious, then he may have chosen God’s Armor.
Another theory is some other shooter.
The SD cards were said to have been given to the Feds.
Expect more phone videos to come out after the funeral.
Court case discovery.
Consultants really shouldn’t allow clients to wear discreet armor. Either establish perimeter and put on the real shit, or go online, quit, or take the risks.
Perimeter is always the breakdown.
As they say, he was knocked/bled unconscious and picked up by the Lord.
Last week stopped time.
Next week will see what direction and speed it starts flowing again.
Wrong. The bullet fragment scattered off the upper ridge of Charlie Kirk’s bulleproof vest, lifting his shirt momentarily over much of his face and entered his brain directly through brain stem, From the position of the hole in his vest, we know exactly the direction the bullet fragments were moving when they entered his neck, and they were heading upwards into the brain, which would probably have caused instantaneous death, scrambling his brains like an egg. We can be pretty sure he did not bleed out, because they were able to manufacture a pulse in intensive care, and because bleeding out does not render you instantaneously unconscious. Even if you cut someone’s head off, he remains conscious for several seconds, up to twenty seconds.
And I am putting you on moderation for a lengthy screenfull of misinformation that you clearly did not bother to research. When you waste space on my blog with large amounts of unresearched bullshit, you are driving away my audience.
I am sometimes guilty myself of putting up unresearched bullshit, but not at such excessive length, and not after some other commenter has posted the good information, or a link to it on my blog.
You failed to read and understand the material on this topic that had already been posted, rendering your comment unresponsive.
you have no statement from anyone on charlies team or doctors or law enforcemnt that he was wearing a vest.
in all the videos of him that day, including throwing out hats, there is nothing on his body under his shirt.
you have no picture of a “vest with a hole in it”.
sure as fuck not “titanium alloy body armor”.
which you got caught calling “bulletproof vest”.
nor have you demonstrated seeing the other analysis videos.
please shut the fuck up you fucking imbecile.
We have a video of Charlie Kirk taken immediately before he was murdered in which the outline of a bullet proof vest is clearly visible, an image of bullet proof vest of similar to one he is wearing in the closeup, and a closeup in which a hole has suddenly appeared in his T shirt at about the upper rim of of the bullet proof vest.
Extrapolating the line from the upper edge of the bulletproof vest to the hole in his neck, the bullet fragments sprayed from the vest through his neck into his brain.
He then discusses the different types of body armor, and then shows us a breastplate that is clearly identical to the one Charlie Kirk was wearing.
Meaning right now in the assassination video he analysing, not right now when he is making the analysis.
Don’t talk about things you don’t understand. The catastrophic damage caused by rifle rounds at close range is due to hydrostatic shock. Kirk was shot far outside the range of hydrostatic shock.
Bullets also expand and wound, but they need to meet resistance to fragment and expand. Two feet of deer, a lot of energy is transferred to the deer and the other end of the deer may explode. A couple of inches of soft tissue, like a neck, will get punched through with no problem. 30-06 doesn’t leave a huge wound in a paper target at that range either. It just smokes through.
Who says reliably that there is no exit wound? I see a lot of retards repeating it. Where is the coroner’s report?
Question for the Americans here: what are the opinions on the public performances of Charlie Kirk’s wife?
Under the cover of anonimity I am going to be a bit mean and say that, despite her being a Christian wife etc, she embodies much of what I find wrong with Western (and especially pronounced in) American women. Too much hair dye, too much make-up, too much dramatic public attention seeking. Not to take anything away from her loss, but I don’t feel the need to see her publicly in tears ‘forgiving Charlie’s killer’.
But perhaps this is a cultural thing? How is her perfomance perceived in America?
Honestly we’re lucky she has the forebrain necessary to not start trying to branch swing already, and that she wasn’t wearing lululemons on stage.
For a women going through shock and grief, she’s doing remarkably well. As for her appearance, it’s solidly American lower class that suddenly catepulted to high status (got that new money look), which isn’t really attractive to me, but she is definately someone who the masses would identify with and easily sympathize with.
I don’t think anyone is taking her “forgiveness” seriously. She has said she wants to leave decission to the state because she doesn’t want it on her concious. Again, a very female brain momment, but also in a sense a very pro-patriarchy mind.
Look, for a woman, she hasn’t done anything terrible, and that’s a win.
That sums it up nicely, doesn’t it. Does that answer your question, Alf?
Yes it does.
Thinking it over, there is a balance between ‘grieving widow’ and ‘activist woman’, the former garnering sympathy, the latter nearly always dissappointing. She is clearly in the grieving widow phase, so not the moment to denounce her for being an female movement leader.
As for her appearance, yes that makes sense. Would be mean to forgive Charlie Kirk for being a normie, but criticize his wife’s appearance for her American normie looks.
You’re obviously more familiar with your own society than I am, but this strikes me as highly delusional. That’s not what normies tend to identify with, in my assessment. (It’s what makes “Reality Television” — cute Orwellian term here — entertaining to normies, but that’s not at all the same thing as identification.)
She don’t have that super model look like, keeping to prime example of reality tv, Kim Kardashian. Face is too round, soft, and wide instead of the long, sharp, and narrow. It’s solidly peasant looking to put it crudely. She looks like the masses, just suddenly high status by virtue of marriage. Going purely off appearance, that’s why they can identify with her. She looks like them.
There’s two basic types of reality tv. Wish fullfillment/fantasy where they don’t identify with the subjects but wish to be them and have what they don’t have (Kardashian), and the more base, crude entertainment of, “I wonder what my life would be like had I followed a different but ‘realistically plausible’ life path I can identify with (Duck Dynasty/Pawn Stars). The class differences in the shows are obvious and glaring, and the difference in the reason for appeal as well.
Bassically, ‘the people’ can identify and empathize with Chumlee and Rick. The Kardashians are more of a bloodsport.
If she keeps a high-profile for longer than the next 2-3 news cycles, I’ll concede the point. Somehow, I’m skeptical. Normiecon men liked Charlie (to the extent they were familiar with him) because his message resonated with them. Not sure which demographic is going to “follow” Erika, though. It goes beyond physical appearance; there needs to be substance, ultimately.
Not saying she’s going to be relevant. Just sympathetic because she’s relatable. Clearly in the same tribe. Look, if she looked like a big black momma with a bad attitude, do you think anyone on the right would really feel that sorry for her?
You have a point.
The echo-chamber is having its circlejerk moment, but I doubt she has widespread appeal.
Nothing wrong with her appearance imho but forgiving the killer who hasn’t even repented or sought for forgiveness shows why none of them should have any power.
I forget the exact quote, but yes we should forgive our enemies, but not until after we hang them.
Trump’s response:
https://patriots.win/p/1AR0ZWqMUR/trump-i-hate-my-opponent-and-i-d/c
“He was a missionary with a noble spirit. He did not hate his opponents. He wanted the best for them. That’s where I disagree with Charlie. I hate my opponent, and I don’t want what’s best for them! I’m sorry, Erica.”
Telling men to get serious and be ready to fight, especially without telling women to get serious and be ready to support their men while they are doing the fighting, counts against her heavily. The memorial was a religious event, a stadium turned into the largest church in the world, and a woman was lecturing men on manhood.
I strongly assume she was asked to make a statement. At the very least she was offered the opportunity. Odds she demanded the opportunity spontaneously approach zero.
Coming a week, ten days, after her husband was shot in front of her and their kids, there’s no reason to expect her to stick the landing to the satisfaction of you or anyone else here. Almost certainly someone from the Trump team or TPUSA either vetted her script or ghostwrote it, but in the unlikely event it was all self written and unvetted I’d file it under “words coming out of a grieving woman’s mouth” and not hold it against her.
Normiecons I know in the real world weren’t bothered in any way by her speech or appearance, were sympathetic to her, did not in any way take her to be a leader.
She is going to finish Kirk’s tour in his stead, which sounds like she wants to do more than what would be strictly expected of her. Nonetheless, points taken.
The way I took her statements was more along taking stewardship of her husband’s estate. She doesn’t have to, or need to be, the public figure/face to do that, similar to how Tucker was once the face of Fox News but wasn’t the owner. TPUSA is now large enough, and with enough skilled personel that it’s practically an institution now. She just needs to find a strong right hand man and supervise, which I think is in her capability.
pass the moderation test before you opine on other matters
omfg jim can u even read bro?
the poaster you just shitcanned [*was, like the legacy media, raising questions about Charlie Kirk’s murder for which we now know the answers, and is raising those questions despite them being answered because he, like the legacy media, wants to murder me, my family, and everyone like me*]
houston! ruh-roh, jimmy has a problem…
https://www.rumble.com/v6ytiok-dangerous-liberty-ep142-new-information-on-charlie-kirk.html
your roid infested playboi operator formally retracted himself OVER A FUCKING WEEK AGO, literally said he “debunked himself”
oopsie, NO ARMOUR, lol
so much for you doing your RESEARCH you can’t even post quality armchair podcasters, next you’ll be posting vids of urself and destiny twerking in alex soros nightclub
you owe BRIAN an apology.
and apologize to everyone else for you
“wasting space on your own blog with unresearched bullshit driving away your own audience”
On a subsequent episode, Dangerous Liberty Ep147, after more information has come in, he defends the body armor theory:
https://rumble.com/v6z9xku-dangerous-liberty-ep147-special-guest-zeb-boykin.html?start=3173
This is the only theory that makes sense: All the other theories are crazy.
If Charlie Kirk was not wearing body armor, then indeed something is very weird about this shooting and something is not as it seems.
But, whatever the details of the shooting, Charlie Kirk was murdered, the poofters did him in, and the Democrats and the mainstream media supported it, and whatever may or may not be strange about this shooting, should not distract us from this fact.
If there is indeed something strange about this shooting, what is being spewed forth is crackpot nuttery — no one has presented any physically plausible theory, other than the body armor theory, so further discussion, unless some new evidence comes out, is not going to get us anywhere.
Summarising: The entry wound on Charlie Kirk’s neck does not look like one such a rifle would have made, and such a rifle would have made a much larger exit wound. Something had to have been going upwards through his Charlie Kirk’s shirt. If not a richocet from body armor, he would have to have been shot by something other than a normal gun shooting upwards from almost directly below him with something other than a normal bullet.
Whatever, we know he is dead, for a huge number of people saw him die in person, and it was immediately obvious that the left killed him. There are indeed oddities about his death, but they do not matter.
What matters is that the response of the left was uniformly “We did not kill him, and if you don’t shut up we will kill you also”
If there is something odd about his death, this stuff does not help us figure out what it was, and does not change the important facts about Charlie Kirk’s death.
> he defends the body armor theory
False. throughout that entire episode, now more than a week after he first stated that he “debunked himself”, he still repeatedly and even at the end says
– he *thinks* thats what happened
– he does not *know*, is not *sure*, etc
– nipples, etc
– nothing really adds up
he’s not defending, he’s wandering lost
you get rocked by 2700 ft-lbs anywhere and your SHIRT is gonna be jumping and billowing around in crazy directions too, film yourself as test dummy if you dont believe it
plenty of theories and facts being discussed 4chan 8kun
> this stuff does not help us figure out what it was
you are the one approving everyone elses posts on it, you are the one to blame for your own noise, you dont get to accuse anyone of that
and it is YOU who continue to assert the THEORY as FACT, instead of admitting you dont know like your video guy did, because unlike him, you cant handle embarrassment and apology
so you then attempted a “WHATEVER” pivot away from your fail by shifting to charlie troons and left
you wanna talk about charlie, good man on the right, then talk about this
you still havent shown one bit of love prayer thought care for him/family
because you view him as a “normie” beneath you
and you are a look-at-me narcissist psychopath fuck
charlie was awesome and were his fam to ask i would help them as any other.
you on the other hand are a dick
im done with you, get fuct, asshole.
shutting down this conversation now until better information comes to light, because it is all noise, and the important facts are not exactly how Charlie Kirk was murdered, but that he was murdered, who murdered him, who was responsible, and how the left and right reacted, and how they are reacting.
The Democratic reaction has been to back off on gun rights, covid, and abortion, while continuing full steam ahead on trannieism, intimidation, and murder, seeking to appease both the Republican Right, and the terrorist radical left. That is what matters. The stuff you want to talk about does not matter.
Shutting down this conversation, because it is never going to produce any useful or meaningful information.
Jeet.
omfg jim can u even read bro?
the poaster you just shitcanned literally properly caveated his own post
required a ***very lucky***
armor theory ***too***
***if*** no vest
***another*** theory
dude may not have even seen any vids yet, you dont know
and you smoked him for basically listing possibilities
what a trigger happy retard asshole you are
truth
It’s another episode of “brand new poster is deeply concerned for the free speech rights of the other brand new shill who just got banned”
I’ve killed a fair amount of human sized animals with rifle bullets. Wounding is highly variable. There are strong trends, but looking at a particular wound doesn’t give much specific, accurate information about exactly how it was made. Bullets do weird, unexpected things much of the time.
There are many theories of exactly how kirk was wounded that would satisfy me and not trip my BS detector–that’s my personal take. Going too hard on the details can also become a red herring, I think.
Agreed, shoot enough and you’ll see some pretty wacky, rare behavior. I’ve been in the pits pulling targets and gotten hit in the face before hard enough to bruise. For anyone that knows the geometries of the range/pits, and ballistics, it’s really weird.
That said, for a normally functioning 30-06, physics would be absolutely broken if velocity wasn’t bled off by body armor fragmentation. It should’ve left a bowling ball sized exit wound under normal conditions.
There are reasonable confunding possibilities. We know the rifle used is old as fuck. Barrel wear can cause gas to escape around the round decreasing the muzzle velocity. Ammo defects or simply being old can reduce powder burn and reduce velicity. Combined with hitting a good chunk of bone in the chest, could in theory fragment and exit up into throat and head as seen in video, but that would be exceeding uncommon. Would need balistic testing of the gun and autopsy report to confirm. Right now body armor theory remains, in my opinion the best explaination, but for some reason everyone who would be in the know has been extremely tight lipped and dodgy about it for some reason.
Supposedly Megyn Kelly did an interview with some TPUSA people who confirmed Kirk was wearing body armor (can’t find it, if anyone has a link please post) and I have found a clip where she says it was fragmentation from body armor, but there are others close to Kirk at the event who deny it.
But this is all noise. The fact is he was murdered by a leftist to the glee and aplause of the regular Democrats. We’ve just seen a overt declaration of war. There’s no pussy footing anymore, and Trump has realized this and at the memorial said:
“He did not hate his opponents, he wanted the best for them. That’s where I disagreed with Charlie. I hate my opponents, and I don’t want the best for them, I’m sorry.”
Gentlemen, Trump now gets it.
Moldbug says that you’ll be wearing a “FELL FOR IT AGAIN AWARD” badge unless the Trump Administration speaks less floridly and acts more concretely to crush the Left.
If it was a (cheap, common) soft cup and core “deer” bullet, there’s a good chance for little or no exit wound. With high enough velocities and high enough resistance inside the target, those bullets can completely fragment in just a few inches. It’s a failure mode. Seen it in the woods many times. Tiny entrance, no exit or multiple tiny exits, mass of liquified tissue and bone dust left inside the animal between the holes. High velocity at the target wants a tough bullet for reliable expansion with weight retention.
The dramatic exit wound is less common than other outcomes in my experience. It requires the other side of the critter to be just the right distance from the entrance for the bullet weight, speed, and construction. It does happen though.
Either way, you don’t have to see too many bullet wounds to really not want to get one. Despite the variety, there are no good ones.
Dear Gentlemen,
I would like to ask a question about COVID, as in, the opinion around here is that it was a lie, and I would like to know some details how exactly the lie went. Because I did believe the lie back then, more or less. There WERE a lot of patients in Italy, for example, lots of temporary hospitals set up, it couldn’t entirely be a ruse. (Italy has strong Wuhan links due to the fashion industry making clothes in Wuhan.) So I would like to know some details.
So I was listening to a vlogger from 2022 claiming the Canadian government, as officially as possible, said the Omicron Variant had 9% the lethality of the previous COVID version, and a little research shows that is less lethality than the common flu.
If this is true, do you think this is an important, load-bearing part? That the lie was that the supposedly new Omicron Variant was the COVID all along and not a new mutation? Virii DO mutate, and they do tend to mutate towards less lethality, as it is not good for a virus if the host dies before infecting many people.
Maybe was it like this: COVID was more virulent – spreading more – than the flu, but not more lethal? It would explain all the temporary hospitals in Italy?
Just what the heck did really happen? In the very first stages, Wuhan was building new hospitals real quickly, I don’t think the GAE memed them into doing so.
To make it clear: if this was a lie, I am asking for the anatomy of this lie, as it was a very effective lie.
I don’t pretend to speak for everyone here, but I will provide an answer nonetheless.
There were myriad, countless, lies. Sometimes self contradictory and incoherent. I won’t bother pointing them out. Instead I’ll provide a shortform handwavey narrative on “what really happened.”
A bunch of Harvard jesuits, literally, ran gain of function research on covid viruses in a Wuhan lab. Well established fact, large paper trail. One of their engineered viruses escaped, intentionally or not. Upon escape, began spreading. Being engineered to be more deadly than a natural virus, was indeed more deadly than a natural virus. For a time. However, viruses in nature exist in a niche that has them become less deadly in exchange for more prolific spread. In a short period of time the virus evolved, through mutation and cross “breeding” with other endemic viral code extant in human population, to be less deadly and to be more easily spread.
So the tl;dr is, more deadly than normal virus at first, very quickly mellowed out. By the time the regime was trying to put you on permanent house arrest and 2 shots a day with breakfast, it was hard to distinguish the lethality from a normal flu.
“less deadly in exchange for more prolific spread”
That was my basic idea, too.
“more deadly than normal virus at first, very quickly mellowed out”
Ah, that would explain the psychology of it. Like in the first say 2-3 months, all the temporary hospitals I saw in Italy DID make sense. THEN not, and likely then not they did not happen.
Then the propaganda trick was that after that scary image stuck in my mind, they simply hid the part where it got mellowed out later on. This makes sense on a psychological level. The way human psychology works is that if Bob beats the shit out of you for 2-3 months, it is hard to believe that one year later Bob is harmless: human psychology is evolved to detect HUMAN threats because the selective pressure was human competition, in which case it just does not work like that, Bob is still as dangerous one year later. So human psychology tends to see things that used to be dangerous in the past as keep being dangerous.
Everyone’s death, except for George Floyd’s, that year was attributed to the Coof.
I’m really glad that I minimized my participation in online discourse during the covid years, since everyone (including everyone) went full retard about it at the time, and some are still fully retarded about it.
The short of it in my account is that the slant-eyed communists identified or perhaps created a new virus, spread a “PEOPLE ARE LITERALLY COLLAPSING IN THE STREETS!” psyop about it to undermine Western governments, and establishment boomer leftists (as distinct from more anarchist, younger, hippie leftists) expectedly went along with it, using it — in varying ways in different countries — as a cudgel against right-wing politicians and right-voting populations, because of course.
Beyond that, not an interesting issue, although it did initiate a worldwide descent into full-blown demonism, so there’s that.
No, Mossadnik, I do not quite buy this version. The cudgel against right-wing pops did not really work for anything useful for the left.
What did work is that they fanaticized the left-leaning populations, who kept wearing masks as a virtue signal even after it was not mandatory, as a virtue signal, even to such an extreme extent that they wore masks at home office Teams work meetings sitting alone, completely alone in their homes, where no one could infect them with anything. It was a virtue signal, a loyalty signal, and the most jarringly obvious virtue signals of them all, many signals have some bits of plausible deniablity, but this one as wearing a mask at staying at home so that people can see this on camera had none whatsoever.
“Virtue signals” are tribal flags, usually a bit hidden into some plausible deniabilty, but this case not at all, the masks on camera while sitting at home were such an obvious undeniable Left Battle Flags, or in other words, complete submissions to GAE signals.
It truly astonished me. Anyone wearing a mask while sitting alone at home, staring at a camera, and the mask looks so much like a gag, a muzzle, something that symbolizes that they have no voice, and they do this at WORK it truly amazed me. I have never seen so clear and obvious SUBMISSION signals before.
I was used to a previous version of Left who signalled being rebels (Boomers, but think Maoist-hippie-student revolutionary 1968 Boomers), an utter signal of SUBMISSION astonished me to no end.
It is not a submission signal. Antifa wears masks. Are they signaling submission? Well, maybe, in a certain rhetorical sense, but not submission to you.
Perhaps you could label it as submission to the Covid Demon; and people only submit to demons for one reason: hope that the demon will spare them and kill everyone else instead. It goes without saying that such behavior is never going to present rationally, i.e. as having any awareness of where a virus might actually be able to spread.
>and establishment boomer leftists (as distinct from more anarchist, younger, hippie leftists)
No, Mossadnik, this is also 100% the other way around, I believe. It was precisely the Boomers who were the 1968 type anarchist maoist hippie type leftists who hated authority, and disbelieved official truths, and loved conspiracy theories. As back then official truths were by 2025 standards only half-leftist. For example, read “The Illuminati!” trilogy, which was a good parody of Boomer leftism, all kinds of conspiracy theories, because the elites were not yet entirely on their side.
No, the astonishing thing about younger, Millenial and GenZ leftists is how much they love Bureaucratic Official Truth. This generation astounds me. They are not any kind of “rebels” at all. Older Leftists saw every Official Truth as Capitalist Conspiracy. Younger Leftists WANT an Official Stamp in order to believe things at all. They are dead afraid of “conspiracy theories” that is any counter-narrative, Not Official, they are the perfect Bureaucrats. While Boomer Leftists in 1968 loved conspiracy theories, also read “The Illuminati!”
What you call Boomer Leftists is what is in Boomer coordinates are Boomer Centrist Libs.
Well, in my country, around 80% of the anti-vaxx people in 2020-2022 were young hippie “anti-establishment” leftists, perhaps relics from a bygone era (as a type, not literally), while the boomers — regardless of political affiliation — all took 73 boosters for breakfast, no questions asked. But again, I never cared enough about this issue to determine “what really happened.”
I know nobody who died from covid or from the covid vaxx. It’s literally mass hysteria engineered by a foreign power in collaboration with Karen-occupied Western establishments that hate normal people and normal people’s elected officials. And I find it very boring, and glad it’s over.
Yes the hippieish leftist (who actually on a personal level tend to be nice and pleasant people not at all like progs and even years ago they wouldn’t hold being a Trump supporter against you) were against the covid thing at every level more consistently and earlier than anyone and in the US it turned them against the Democrats as is forever. These are the type of people who really like RFK even if they are leary of Trump but they will sometimes vote Republican now and NEVER vote Democrat here in the US again. Its hard to underestimate how much the covid thing permanently soured them on the Democrats forever (they were turning against it before).
This is very important detail that you completely fail to mention. This was an inside job, carried out by harvardians and jesuits. Do not blame the crimes of the criminals at home on the foreigners.
I blame both.
The uniquely Chinese reaction in China, both the natural reaction and their own internal psyops, made it onto Chinese apps in China, then onto TikTok. The sprayers, cleaners, drop-deads, welded doors, jammed hospitals.
The Western Globalist Elite Op Contractors then copied all those “scary videos” out onto Western Facebook, Twitter, Youtube, appending their own PsyOp narratives for a double triggering impact with the fake News Media parroting. That succeeded into lockdowns, shutdowns, forced vax. And $10T+ worth of printed money for the Elite Cantillonaire class.
The Masking Virtue Signalling was of Leftist Commie type and came shortly after, with even more devastating effect. Leftist Mask Cult still highly visible in universities, libraries, NGOs, protests, etc. Globalists loved this development, especially the fake masked-criminal protests aspect, which they heavily funded via Soros/NGOs/USAID as ruinous chaos to help accomplish their power grab.
The freshly weaponized virus got out in China, and plausibly killed a lot of people. By the time it got to the west, its lethality was evolving back to what is normal for a new flu, and they had to spike the death rate by propaganda and murder.
Because flu viruses cannot survive long outside the body, they want their host walking around and living his normal life, so that they can get around. Lethality does not matter much for a disease like cholera, whose spores can survive for centuries. The cholera suffer poops and vomits on himself and his bed, then his body and the bed is cleaned, the spores get into water, they soak into rock, they soak into a well, and then it is on. Flu cannot do that. To get around, they have to get around inside an ambulant host. The worst part of flu occurs after you have ceased to be infectious, the remaining flue viruses are holed up inside cells, and you suffer collateral damage as the immune system clears out the barricades.
I am a golden pureblood, meaning never jabbed, got Covid once, shortly after the bioweapon attack on us was launched. It was pretty rough, but not so rough as to prevent me walking around, living my normal life, and doing my normal things, and I have not gotten another flu since then.
Come to think of it, I’ve had basically the same experience. Never got vaxxed, got covid over 4 years ago, was bedridden for 2 days and lightly sick for the following week. Haven’t had a severe flu since.
I used to catch at least 2 bad flus every year (as in fever, chills, loss of appetite, etc.) But since getting covid, I’ve only ever caught light colds (slight coughs and sniffles, no fever). I guess Fauci’s bioweapon supercharged my immune system.
I too have not been as prone to colds or flushing since getting “covid”.
Got Covid twice, never took the vax, noticed the same thing myself, and still wonder why. Maybe all respiratory viruses had to dial down their virulence so as not to overload the weakened immune systems of millions of vaxees.
How are those unfortunates doing four years later? Are they recovering from their “Long Covid”? Are young athletes still randomly dropping dead?
There’s an argument covid has partially displaced influenza in the ecology of viruses. Not completely, because influenza is still out there, and has reservoirs in the wild to come back from. But to a great extent, if you’re seeing you and yours haven’t had the flu since, there’s something to that.
(Which makes our top-down societal mis-reaction all the more criminal. Early intervention with ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine, C, D, NAC, etc. massively alleviated mortality when it was used, and contributed to herd immunity. We could have had our cake (natural immunity) and eaten it too.)
At the tail end of covid, on a covid-skeptical blog, I read a fascinating take on the ecology of seasonal viruses. Asserted they’re not only dependent on season and temperature as you’d expect, but are partially competing against each other, or at least displacing each other, in their hosts. So if you look at occurrence of one virus you see spikes and valleys, but if you layer occurrence of all viruses together they’ve got a more stable top line with the individual spikes and valleys filling each other out. I regret no link, because I’m not nearly doing it justice, but search engines are not returning anything remotely as useful. Only Science!, wikis and CDC seasonal numbers.
As I recall Israel was one of the first and most insane to sign on to the Pfizer mRNA shot (while also “immunizing” Pfizer from liability for any side effects or vaccine failures). Posting videos of how everyone was getting the shot, from Bibi on down, to demonstrate their superior holiness.
If the Approved Experts on the Great Covid Demon were wrong about the vaccine, and it ends up sterilizing or outright killing or dement-ing (etc) your country’s population in a generation, your leaders will have suicided the country so that they can praise themselves in Youtube videos.
This would bother me if I were an Israeli, just as I am outraged over the similar Covid hysteria in the USA and deeply troubled by its imposition all over the civilized nations. In Africa you could ignore it.
I’m no more bothered by the prospect of that happening than by the prospect of covid itself doing all that, or by a sudden outbreak of Koro for that matter.
You’re not off to a promising start here. The proximate cause of “lots of temporary hospitals” is not “deadly virus”, it is “fear of being over capacity in regular hospitals”. Of course I can think of other, far more cynical explanations too, but let’s stick with the least-cynical to keep it normie-friendly.
You saw evidence that the Italian government believed there was a serious threat. Whether the threat was actually serious, or was actually given effect, is a different question, answered by whether or not the regular hospitals ever ended up at or near capacity. I don’t know the Italian statistics specifically, but in general, almost everywhere these temporary hospitals were built, they spent most of the time empty, and regular hospitals were under capacity.
This despite the fact that in many countries, and again I don’t know the Italian policy specifically, doctors were literally being paid to diagnose as many patients as possible with Covid and send them to hospital, permanent or temporary. So combined with the fact that hospitals never really went over capacity, we can only logically conclude that either (a) Covid did infect a lot of people but in doing so, simply displaced some other “trigger illness” like seasonal flu for immunocompromised patients who would have ended up hospitalized anyway, or (b) a lot of other illnesses were misdiagnosed, whether by accident or intent, as Covid.
And this is the “Steelman” interpretation of facts. I am not even considering outright malicious scenarios like the one we had in New York where they crammed the sickest elderly patients in nursing homes to deliberately induce widespread illness and death. There was a huge amount of iatrogenic injury worldwide; but it’s not required to explain what you saw.
As for what happened in Wuhan, Fidelis already covered the origin of the virus, I’ll simply add that I’m equally willing to accept either the “Chinese psyop” or “Chinese panic” theories. Makes little difference. Either way it has no bearing on what happened outside China, except to the extent that regardless of its authenticity, the image of it helped to foment a mass panic over a bogeyman that consistently failed to materialize, even before the virus mutated into a benign form as viruses tend to do.
Thanks a lot, Daddy Scarebucks. You are quickly becoming the second best “educator” here after Jim. Good job, really.
One question, tho – what was the ultimate purpose? This did not result in universal prog rule at all.
Answering that question decisively, and beyond any reasonable doubt, would require insider information that (I assume) none of us have access to, or physical evidence that (as far as I know) has never been made public, perhaps never will be, and may not exist at all. Even if we had audio recordings of conspirators, people don’t always say what they mean, and we can’t know for certain what was going on inside their heads.
The “why?” of it is going to boil down to your perspective of the world, human nature, the way power is distributed at any given moment and your mental model of the power players. There are so many plausible answers to choose from.
The parsimonious explanation, which I emphasize is not necessarily the correct one, just the easiest for a normality-biased individual to swallow, is that the gain-of-function/lethality research was a genuine attempt at developing better medicine, but, having been designed and managed incompetently, was allowed to leak into the wild, and the massive overreaction was a combination of irrational panic and rational ass-covering. Thus, no “why” at all, really; just a bunch of stupid assholes being stupid assholes. Let’s label this the “Accident Hypothesis”.
A less charitable, but still highly plausible explanation is that the GOL research was a deliberate attempt to create a “bioweapon”, but probably not a tool of genocide as the word traditionally implies, but rather a way to make a lot of people sick in order to force untested mRNA tech into the mainstream or just vie for greater “flexibility”. It leaked either accidentally or intentionally, turned out to be a lot less lethal than expected (because mutation is a thing, and natural immunity is also a thing), and the experimenters decided to run with it anyway, because hey, what’s done is done and we may not get another chance to push our miracle cures.
That second explanation–let’s call it the “Opportunism Hypothesis”–obviously requires more faith, or cynicism depending on your perspective. However, it does explain certain strange inconsistencies and improbabilities with the Accident Hypothesis, for example: why Fauci’s epidemiological was chosen when he’d been so disastrously wrong multiple times in the past; how Pfizer and other pharmas seemed to have jabs ready just a little too quickly, with rollouts timed perfectly to after the 2020 US election; why the hyperbole around the virus persisted even after the Diamond Princess incident which should have put it all to rest; or why parts of the medical community seemingly took actions that deliberately increased fatalities (the nursing home incident, excessive use of ventilators, prescribing that weird and deadly anti-HIV drug whose name I forget, etc.).
Or maybe we go with the “Malthusian Hypothesis”, in which the conspirators caused the leak on purpose, believing and hoping that it would actually cause mass death, and when it failed to cause mass death, went on to spin the news, spread misinformation and censor dissent in order to spike the death toll as high as possible (e.g. by denying access to actually effective treatments) and rain destruction upon all the parts of society they hate, such as churches and gym owners. The stark, mind-boggling hypocrisy behind episodes like the Summer of St. Floyd lend a lot of credibility to this hypothesis, and recent events have surely proven to everyone’s satisfaction that they really do want to kill us.
Or maybe, as with so many big world-changing events, there are simply too many actors involved to cleanly point to a single perpetrator or a single motive, and in reality there were elements of all three above, plus a dozen more that I haven’t thought of or couldn’t be bothered to mention. It’s like 9/11, in which there were (at least) two completely separate conspiracies, one by the muzzies to crash the planes, and a second by the FBI to suppress public awareness of brown dysfunction. With Covid, there may have been many different groups who all had their own “whys”–Jesuits, pharmas, progressives and Democrats, etc.
In conclusion let me respond to the second sentence:
No, but it very well could have. The Thermidorean reaction in 2024 was not a backlash against Covid policy, it was a backlash against DEI and the loss of unprincipled exceptions by old-money elites. If the leading edge of the left wasn’t so brazen, dysfunctional, and obsessed with promoting troons and other revolting madness, then the Covidians might still be in power, and indeed more powerful than ever before.
Just because it wasn’t the outcome, doesn’t (necessarily) mean it wasn’t the intent. I don’t really have a strong opinion on the matter, personally I’m in the “many actors, many reasons” camp, but if I were some Dem/WEF/Bilderberg shitbag circa 2021, I would absolutely have been thinking “Damn, this Covid thing is a political superweapon!”
Also, a reminder, that covid erupted in Wuhan right before the local holiday (lunar new year), when for two weeks one billion chinamen travel back and forth across the country, with a key rail hub being Wuhan itself.
While it could be an accident that this happened leading up to the one fortnight in a year when a billion people would be moving around between all corners of China, and in the one place through which at least a hundred million of them would passing through, this was likely enough to set off paranoid alarms in the sense of “the crazy bastards did it. They finally decided to hit us for real.”
Hence, once the layers between the epicenter and beijing finally relayed the info that stuff is actually happening, the rather merciless approach of isolating Wuhan (with the population of London/NY btw), and throwing I forget now, 50-60K medical workers at it, whole trains of mobilized students included, and then scrambling to isolate it anywhere it was detected throughout the country.
To the very end, the QR codes in China were showing where one had been in the last two weeks, and not jab status, unlike say the free world. Location-based approach, not jab-based.
There were also international war games, with participants and observers from the whole world, including the US, in Wuhan, which ended about one incubation period before covid erupted. This is a third, frequently overlooked variable, aside from the lab and the wet market.
Were there factions that thought to exploit it in ways to ‘strike back at the evil imperialist-pig dogs’? Likely yes. Contain it as much as possible inside the country, while allowing it to leak to have the crazy round eyed devils have a taste of their own medicine. Maybe something like that.
It would be highly strange if Beijing didn’t investigate ultra thoroughly how things kicked off. Maybe they figured out “crap, it was our fault all along”. Maybe they found something else.
The vids of people collapsing on the streets are a complete mystery to me to this day. On the one hand, a country with 1.4 billion people would have a thousand people collapse on the street from any reason morning, noon, and evening. On the other hand one could easily film additional fake Chinese streets in Taiwan, or Thailand, or really any chinatown across the world. No idea.
What is surprising is the ease with which people seem to have forgotten the wave of western TV hosts collapsing on air, athletes collapsing, etc, once the holy injection efforts really kicked in. It was a quite spectacular period. I myself only remembered it now, while writing this post. Had forgotten it for at least a year, what with all the other stuff going on.
So thoroughly forgotten that YouTube doesn’t bother censoring it anymore:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0CB0HshVjaM
‘Died suddenly’. I remember wondering if the effect would fall off or if we were seeing people permanently destroy their immune systems. There was some waking up- there was a fall off for vaccine intake, but I don’t know how many people internalized ‘our rulers are trying to murder everyone’.
The reason Italy was grounds zero for hysteria and malpractice deaths was because Jesuit world headquarters was is in Italy.
> origin of COVID virus
My theory…
Covid was created by the Western Globalist Left… its hubris of Gates Schwab WEF types, Climate/Enviro depopulation types, Neu-Commie types like Alex Soros, and various proponent Elites… some combination of that.
Created in NGO-labs that were themselves created by needing to deniably farm out the ongoing legacy AAMRID VECTOR programs to them decades ago. But now under new independent NGO control and funding and biotech advances they became truly diabolical. Some were in Ukraine, a convenient distant locale to hire ex-program staff, and launder everything. But also running components/HQ in US/EU from their own domestic university and NGO “research” locations.
COVID/COVAX were the first publicly known bioweapons (after perhaps levering GAIDS).
Created from and to serve two ideations…
1) the West-Govt desire against the blatant fact of the growing threat of China vv it’s massive population and tech capability and its rising global dominance empire. BRICS threat also contributed to urgency.
2) the Globo-Govt desire for depopulation, thus chaos leading to power and property grab, anywhere, and everywhere… “you will own nothing, be happy, and climate green”.
These NGO labs researched created and tested the genetic code… covid bioweapon was born.
Then one of two things happened…
1) the infection actually leaked from NGO lab
2) Fauci Dazczak et al, they scammed the Chinese love for medical research and copycat, by shipping the code as a “research opportunity” package over to China, where they knew the Chinese would fuck it up and leak it on themselves first, in hopes to wipe out poor China by 650M people or more.
Backed by safety of what the West thought they had already codeveloped in the bag as the COVAX. This was washdropped as the conveniently fast WarpSpeed rollout. And the associated refusals to give the COVAX code to other countries, only the product.
Trump had no real part or knowledge, happened to be the sitting President that got gimped by the Globalist timing, and abused by the Media for the Left.
Unfortunately the NGOs fucked up COVAX too, it fizzled badly, did far more harm than good (alternatively, didn’t do enough bad as weaponized).
Fortunately, COVID fizzled badly too.
Those two are the only reasons you’re alive today.
It’s entirely unknown what the ramifications of the DNA change will be generations from now.
What I wonder is what the net effect of the COVID episode will be if they try something similar in the future. Will it function as a precedent so that a lot of people will go along with it more easily next time? Or will it have made enough people cynical – e.g. “two weeks to flatten the curve” turned into almost two years – that they’ll meet more resistance if they try it again? My sense is that there will be more resistance, but then, the places I hang around on the Net are not exactly a random sample of Normie-space.
I see a huge amount of cynicism among normies. My feeling is that Covid discredited the left, and made subsequent events possible. It was overreach. They wanted to grab total power and murder everyone, they succeeded with total power and were helpless to use it, and murdering everyone ran into increasingly severe non compliance, causing them to lose total power.
Next time there will be more resistance. Last time it was not all that difficult to get a vax-pass without being vaxxed. Forging vax-passes was made much more difficult towards the end.
Many people simply got a vax-pass without being vaccinated. For the most part, these people didn’t resist too much as they were not affected by most covid related restrictions. Next time some of the people who got a fake vax-pass won’t be able to get a fake vax-pass. So they will resist.
Really? I was told, not just by the media but by people who worked in hospitals, that they were over capacity at the time. Which I attributed to the fact that hospitals are essentially always over capacity, the covid bump merely emphasising an already malfunctioning ecosystem.
I assume you’ve got some form of nationalized healthcare? Public hospitals are always claiming to be “under staffed” in the same sense that public schools claim to be “under funded”. It’s a combination of inflated demand, mind-boggling inefficiency and criminal corruption. “We don’t have enough resources”, they cry as they bill your insurance or government $30,000 for a simple MRI and make you wait six months to get it.
But during the Covid madness there was one group who was telling the truth, sort of, and that was the nurses. Not all of them, mind you, many of them are really nasty pieces of work; but there was a sub-community of them that came out early in favor of oxygenation over ventilation, Ivermectin and other generic drugs over the Remdesivir poison (h/t Bob for reminder of the name), and so on. And if we look at what they said, the ones who didn’t have dollar signs in their eyes (or uh… Euro signs), pretty consistently it was either business as usual except that the hospitals didn’t have enough of the ventilators which they shouldn’t have been using in the first place.
That’s what 99% of the “capacity” blather from corrupt hospital administrators and public health officials was always about. Not actual overcrowding in hospitals, many of which were half-empty because during the Covid panic most people avoided them like the literal plague, but “we need MOAR VENTILATORS”. And it’s probably been discussed enough on this blog how ventilators are just ritual sacrifice, so there’s no need to rehash it here.
Yes, totally. There’s a handful of private clinics in certain specializations, but by and large, everything is state run and really to be avoided at all costs.
Is that not the case in the US?
It is not the case in the USA. Our system is terrible, but terrible in different ways. Explaining how the system actually works and how it came to be would probably be a book-length article and uninteresting to most of Jim’s readers, but since it is hard for the Euros to understand, let me see what I can do in a few short paragraphs.
In America, we heavily subsidize medical care for the two unhealthiest and most expensive groups: the elderly (65+) and the diabetic candy-snarfing poors (mostly negroes). These are called “Medicare” and “Medicaid”, respectively. US politicians, not to mention US hospitals and pharmas, like to frame this as humanitarian but do not like public awareness of the true cost, so all of this malarkey is laundered behind “Insurance”.
The way the scam works, at a very high level, is that boomers and negroes apply for Medicare and Medicaid and get access to special “Insurance” “plans” that no one else can get; insurance with extremely low premiums, under $100 a month, with almost no deductible and almost 100% coverage. Everyone else pays an average of about $500/mo and gets a “co-pay”, “co-insurance” or both, so e.g. they have to pay the first $50 for every batch of a drug, or up to 50% of the charge for an emergency room visit which can literally be in the millions of dollars, although there is an “out of pocket maximum” so it will not actually bankrupt you for life.
Anyway, the result is a system that is very close to socialism, because there is hardly any cost transparency, and indeed some diagnostic labs will even quote you the normal/uninsured price for procedures like an MRI or CT scan if you tell them you are uninsured, which is typically 10% or less of what they bill to Insurance. This is why the system is so dysfunctional. But the reason why the system still functions at all is that it is not all the way to socialism (AKA “single payer”), and all these deductibles, co-pays and co-insurances still force some degree of sanity and rational behavior on normies.
The point is, in America, no one (except those on Medicare/Medicaid) goes to the ER for a sprained ankle–or a touch of the flu–because even though they will not be burdened with the entire $400,000 bill, they will still be out of pocket to the tune of about $30,000. Even before Covid–that is, even before they blurred the line between “hospital” and “hospice”–we always had an extremely large number of Americans who, for the most basic economic reasons, would avoid interacting with the system at all unless there was a real, genuine no-shit emergency, such as an axe lodged in their skull.
The result: American hospitals, despite having to deal with the burden of many chronically-ill patients who have no incentive to adopt healthier lifestyles, generally don’t have to deal with any other patients at all, because the process is so slow and expensive that everyone else avoids it. And this did not change during the Covid Era. The people who were rushing to doctors and hospitals because of the Wu Flu were the same hypochondriacs who are always rushing to doctors and hospitals for depression or PTSD or whatever, as well as the genuinely old and/or frail who can be taken out by a stiff breeze on a summer day.
A few years ago, I tried to get private health insurance in Europe that also covered the US. It was impossible. Every insurance company I asked explicitly excluded the US.
There were plenty of morale-boosting nurse dances as I recall. It didn’t seem too bad. We had no morale-boosting IT dances.
Government granted extra funds to hospitals for each covid patient specifically. Therefore every one getting into hospitals was magically diagnosed with covid on top of what they had. (I am exaggerating but that was the trend)
I don’t know about Italy, but in America hospital treatment propped the fatality numbers up. Ventilation + Remdesivir is a kill shot not a treatment. Probably low to mid six figures in America alone should be blamed on hospital mistreatment not covid itself, but it’s hard to separate out the numbers. So here, hospitalization was a lie, but the hospitals themselves were the deadly truth – they created their own reality.
Somebody knew remdesivir is of negative value. That goes back to early, pre-covid studies of it that pharma execs buried. What’s not clear is whether the people who knew only wanted their money out of it and didn’t care, or whether the deaths were positively desired in their own right. And I really have no way of knowing that from the outside.
What I wonder about now is what was up with the videos of Chinese people collapsing in the streets. Those circulated very early, early enough there was a brief period where leftists were deriding them and rightists were forwarding them, before the received truth crystallized and the battle lines were drawn more clearly. Was that Chinese propaganda, or was the early virus really that virulent? No idea.
Chinese psyop. At no point did people literally collapse in the streets because of a coronavirus.
Disney announced today they’re bringing Kimmel back tomorrow night. Gotta have that free speech, donchaknow.
OK OK I’ll accept a ‘fell for it again’ award for this one.
Many network affiliates are saying no. He won’t air in Florida here on the boomertube.
Would-be assassin Ryan Routh today, in the wake of being found guilty, proved the pen is not necessarily mightier than the sword as he stabbed himself ineffectually in the neck.
this is may sound strange but i vaguely remember wikipedia has bust waist and hip measurement for models and actress , i tried to search and strangley could not find it and even google search ai refused to give answer
Other than the Socialism, and the Warmongering, the Hitlerian Germany was offering some reasonable ideas.
Listen to Hitler’s AI translated speeches.
It’s all about founding and maintaining a White Nation.
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Unless we restore marriage 1.0, not going to have a white nation.
Emprically, Nazis are always arguing socialism, and have no concrete plans for accomplishing a white nation. How are you going to have a white nation if white men cannot control white women?
China is also suffering a collapse of marriage and reproduction for similar reasons to ourselves, because Chinese women have also priced themselves out of the market, and because Chinese family and divorce law gives husbands no right to obedience, fidelity, and sex.
None of the higher races are reproducing, which means that unless the problem is addressed, the highest race remaining will be Afghans.
Have been reading up on Leon Voss. And the other substack that is responding to Leon’s claims:
https://www.leonvoss.com/p/the-possible-origins-of-the-modern
https://hereticalinsights.substack.com/p/historical-female-age-at-marriage/
Would you your take on those articles? What do you think of their take on historical marriage patterns which is undoubtedly based on known historical data.
I don’t see any substantial contradiction between the two claims. They are spinning the same facts a little differently, but are in substantial agreement on the facts.
The second link keeps rationalising and explaining away evidence for very early marriage. It is obviously a little bit biased biased towards interpreting the age of marriage as late as possible as is plausibly consistent with the evidence.
It contains the interesting fact:
That would definitely fix the fertility and incel problems.
A lot of societies failed to utilise a substantial part of a woman’s fertile window, and a lot of societies utilised most of it. None, however discarded as much of the fertile window as we do. We have earlier menarche and later marriage than any of them, later by a considerable amount.
Women do not seem to be all that keen on consent:
A whole lot of webtoon romances, which are female wish fulfilment fantasies, have the burden of female sexual choice lifted off the protagonists to some degree by some circumstance, frequently improbable circumstance (transport to magical world, reincarnation, metapsychosis, whatever)
Taking seven at random:
Female fantasies, every one of which somehow lifted the burden of choice, or somewhat diminished it:
Protagonist gets stuck in the middle of nowhere, and has no alternative but to stick with only man around with transport. He is disinclined to allow her to follow him around, so she hits on him, partly because he is wealthy and handsome, but also the alternative is being stuck in the middle of nowhere.
Protagonist is sold by her family at age seventeen to a fifty year old man whom she has never met who already has seven wives. She reluctantly agrees, but while being transported to meet her husband, her coach is violently attacked and she is taken captive by another man.
Protagonist wakes up on a strange hotel room, which she does not recognise, with a male stranger whom she does not recognise, and a hangover.
Protagonist is in the modern world, is single, with no family, no job, becomes homeless, is magically transported, reincarnated, or something, to a medieval environment where she has a home, a husband, (whom she does not recognise) and two kids (whom she does not recognise either). Also, the poverty level in the new environment to which she is magically transported is such that if she leaves her husband, or unduly pisses him off, she will not only become homeless again with no family and no job, but will also starve and freeze. Since it is socially expected she will get into bed with her husband at bedtime, since she wants to pass as the original wife (and therefore have companionship, roof and food) and since he is already very pissed off and she fears to further piss him off, she does so.
Two protagonists in a magical steampunk world, in which family, society, the state, and the state religion requires women to get married by their twenty second birthday, or else. (Men face conscription for military service, women conscription to produce more taxpayers and soldiers) Two protagonists, one of whom is about to hit the limit, and one not far from it.
Princess is traded by a small kingdom to a powerful warlord.
Protagonist is marooned on a tropical island. No food. Discovers evil overlord has secret base, and a large food supply. Evil overlord puts her on a leash like a dog.
The chart “Mean Age of Female Marriage among British Peerage by Year” (first link, showing a sharp divide between 1550 and 1700) has a parsinimous explanation: The “Virgin Queen” Elizabeth I. It looks like this particular salami started to seriously be sliced in 1576.
https://archive.org/details/in.ernet.dli.2015.238530/page/n651/mode/2up – pp631-2 (p652 on viewer)
https://books.google.ru/books?id=PCuxyd7j4jQC&printsec=frontcover&hl=ru&source=gbs_ge_summary_r&cad=0#v=onepage&q=clergy&f=false – pp62-6 (search term is included to force visibility of pages in preview)
This blog is good at identifying problems, and suggesting possible solutions.
But what I want to know is, how exactly are any of them going to get done.
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It seems that after three troontifa terror attacks in the past two weeks, the FBI is still industriously looking for straight white male Christian terrorists, while if you attend a Ubuntu conference many of the speakers will cheerfully identify as tranny etcetera terrorists. Why don’t you go to a Ubuntu conference? You will hear end of declarations of intent to use violence against anyone who so much as sits at the same table with a “mysogynist”, “homophobe”, “racist”, or “fascist” from the public speakers.
It is the duty of the state to wield sword for the terror of evil men. Why are you coming after us, and ignoring evil men endorsing the murder of Charlie Kirk?
The solution at the individual level is game, on which I have posted much, and to prepare for civil war or genocide, on which I have not much to add to the existing literature. Particularly as the art of war is undergoing rapid change as we speak, and its future shape is unclear. Looks like a return to aristocratic warfare, but with drone operators instead of armored knights on horseback. We seem to be returning to individual and very small group conflict between expensively equipped elites, rather than hordes of grunts. Battles in Ukraine are increasingly one on one, one drone operator versus another drone operator, or one lone assassin versus one drone operator. Hero time. As in the time of mounted knights, a single hero may turn a battle with very large consequences.
We need to move to an economic system based on crypto currency. Existing crypto currency has intolerable problems, for which for the solutions are well known, and have frequently been described in this blog, but are as yet not implemented: https://gitea.rho.la/
Civil war is, of course, an intolerably costly solution, but sometimes there is no other. It would be vastly preferable to eradicate our enemies under color of law, and declaring Antifa a terrorist group is a good step in that direction. Why are you not trying to infiltrate troontifa, instead of us?
The solution at the collective level is, of course, collective action. The state must impose an old type Christian state religion, instead of the existing demonic state religion. Tanks in Harvard.
The funeral of Charlie Kirk turned into a Christian Nationalist political rally, which is a good step in the right direction, and Trump has taken a few small steps towards tanks in Harvard. If Antifa is a terrorist organisation, so is Harvard.
After today’s clownshow blompfenstein has a mandate to absolutely boot these motherfuckers into the dirt. But he won’t, because he’s a judas goat, and his job is to look busy and keep the normiecon right pacified until the tranny communists murder their way back into power.
This is stupid and possibly malicious noise shilling. Trump as Judas goat to keep normiecons pacified indeed. Do you remember Mitt Romney? John McCain? George Bush? Useless all of them. If Trump hadn’t come along, it would have been more of the same and worse. By now, the Republican party would 100% push for amnesty and those conservatives brave enough to not want this would have had no ability to stop it. What could they possibly do in such circumstances? A political murder or two? That would energize the Left, not to vote more but to enact specific and concrete measures to crush all opposition.
But yes Trump isn’t doing everything I would like or you would (supposedly) like. So you stupidly, or maliciously, pretend that means he is doing nothing and his administration is no different than zombie Biden’s goons.
I’m sure he’ll go just as hard to suppress actual anti-american terrorism as he did to crush student protests against the genocide in Gaza (he won’t.) Because he doesn’t care when a tradcon American debate me bro gets murdered on stage, and he does care about his yid masters being inconvenienced by student protests. Conservatives won’t admit what’s right in front of their faces. No one is coming to help; this administration doesn’t care about you; and every bone thrown to us gets full permission and approval from the zionist entity first. It’s a trick, get an axe.
You’re free to disagree with me to your heart’s content but I’ve been very consistent in my opinions.
Terror is coming home to the elite. ABC which is solidly radically left just got terrorised. Charlie Kirk was a personal friend of most the Trump cabinet.
The left always get lefter. The leftmost faction always wins, albeit what constitutes leftism is always being redefined. Right now, leftmost is whomever has the longest death list. If this had happened while the Biden group was in power, white genocide would have ensued.
We are now in a situation where it is completely obvious that the left must be ended, because it now should be obvious that the left not only intends to kill all conservatives and all normies, but also is, like Robespierre, going to kill all leftists. If the left ever regains power, it is going to kill everyone, including leftists. Especially leftists. The left must never be allowed to win another election.
The time has come to put down the entire left like a rabid dog. Reality is slowly soaking in. Kill enough of them, and ship all the rest, all of them, to Alaska.
That is the way the holiness spiral of ever lefter leftism usually ended before — except when it ended by them killing off everyone, including themselves. You think it can be ended in a more Christian manner. Maybe it can, I hope it can, Cromwell and Monck ended it with very little bloodshed. But if we are emulating Cromwell and Monk, we still need soldiers walking into the halls of Congress, purging Congress and ending Harvard.
Last time we sent all the rabid leftists to a remote and inhospitable territory, Massachusetts, they set up shop and got more focused. Eventually gathering enough power and resources to take everything. I vote No on the Alaska plan, and Yes to the serfdom and or swimming lessons plan.
Moldbug was wrong about modern leftist descending theologically from Mass Bay Puritans. The old Anglo version of the radleft lost the power struggle within the victorious republican party after the civil war and they lost it BADLY, the whole “Gilded Age” narrative was basically them bitching about that. Woodrow Wilson was not a northerner and his leftism was inspired by British Fabians. The more modern gay race communism left is more french Rosseauian/postmodernist in what passes for its intellectual beliefs than anything the Puritans radical sects like the “Diggers” ever would have imagined.
Indeed. We must also eradicate leftism abroad while we’re at it. More points to the total elimination plan.
Roussea-inspired “enlightenment” has a lot to answer for.
Im voting that we are dealing with a lot of Frankfurt/Gramscian damage that has coopted a fairly normal and regular puritan crusade.
Frankfurt and Gramsci are heretical offshoots of Phariseeism, while today’s woke is primarily a heretical offshoot of Puritanism.
Miss Marvel was primarily pharisee decended, but the Incredible She Hulk obviously puritan descended. They have merged together, but it is obvious that postChristians are dominant over the postJews.
Wanting to “pwn the libz” is how you get RINO’s elected who don’t ever do anything. Our [*deleted for saying “our”, “we”, hail fellow old type Christian*]
You point to the commonalities between our beliefs and Roman Catholic doctrine, but the Roman Catholic Church has been engaged in hostile acts against marriage, family, and Kings ever since it became the Roman Catholic Church in the year of our Lord 1054. In California, Roman Catholic Bishops just backed legislation intended to give schools legal cover for arranging kidnappings of other people’s children by gays.
The commonalities you point to are old type Christianity, but the Roman Catholic Church has been hostile to those commonalities for a thousand years. There were and are a whole lot of old type Christians in the Roman Catholic Church, and Roman Catholic doctrine is still theoretically old type Christian but the hierarchy has never been on their side.
Culture is downstream of power, and electoral politics, Maga and Turning Point USA, are downstream of culture, and thus downstream of power. And the Roman Catholic hierarchy, and in particular the Jesuits of whom you, Anonymous Fake, appear to be an operative, are part of power.
We lost the Crusades primarily because of Papal hostility to Kings, and we lost marriage 1.0 in substantial part because of the hostility of the Roman Catholic hierarchy to marriage and family.
I’ve attacked CPS before by [*not attacking it*]
But it looks like we’re about to test “culture is downstream from power” to its limit, as the right now has almost all legal power (breaking the filibuster or amending the constitution still quite a bit away) and this isn’t changing the culture much. [*payload deleted*]
The right has almost all legal power, but, as recent events demonstrated yet again, very little actual power. It needs to grab actual power. It needs to recognise that we are now on the other side of the Rubicon, and act accordingly.