War and rational choice

It looks like the Ukraine war is going to be fought to its ultimate conclusion. All Ukrainian men who have not managed to escape the regime will die (the regime being composed of men who do not actually think of themselves as Ukrainians)

It is never rational to fight a war all the way to its ultimate end.

War is a test of will and capability. If both sides knew the other’s will and capability, and both sides were rational, they would know the outcome of the war, and they would agree to accept that outcome, without all those people being killed and stuff blown up.

It is frequently rational to go to war, because you don’t know the other side’s will and capability. But war is apt to reveal it rather quickly.

However, what is rational for the nation, is not necessarily rational for individuals and groups within the nation. If the Ukraine settled now for the likely outcome of the war (a neutral and disarmed rump Ukraine governing substantially less territory than it now governs) then the flow of graft money to regime immediately stops, and the regime has to immediately flee the country. If it delays, will still have to flee the country, but will have larger estates in England, Germany, and the South of France.

When the Russians thought they could get a negotiated settlement, they focused on the Donbas. They were willing to accept less than they would obtain by fighting the war to its final conclusion. Now that it is apparent that a negotiated settlement is unlikely, they are preparing to take Odessa.

This is going to take a while.

Russian tactics are increasingly focused on extermination of the Ukrainian army. Used to be when the Russians enveloped an area, they would leave open a narrow and dangerous escape route. And then they started to make escape routes rather narrower and more dangerous. And now they are shutting off the escape routes altogether.

The cost of this war has been horrifying for both sides. Total casualties were roughly comparable for both sides, but Russia is bigger — a considerably smaller proportion of their men died, even though a roughly similar number died.

But though total casualties were comparable for both sides, they no longer are comparable for both sides. As the Ukrainian army gets smaller and smaller, it suffers higher and higher casualties, while inflicting lower and lower casualties. Thus do wars of attrition end.

The only way Europe can avoid this end is mass conscription of European cannon fodder, starting right away, for the longer they delay, the more unfavourable the odds. Being a beast with too many heads and too many horns, they find it very difficult to decide to do anything decisive. They will dither, then dither some more. They want a low level war with Russia that goes on forever, but Russia wants a decisive war that will come to a final end.

Absent massive waves of fresh meat from Europe, the Ukrainian army is going to disappear sooner or later. But as long as troops can be compelled to obey, and as long as the European Union is willing to throw good money after bad, the war will go on.

It is politically convenient for Russia to exterminate the Ukrainian army in Russian majority areas, rather than in areas that are majority non Russian, thus the Russian army is in no hurry to advance.

When it comes to pass that the Russian army occupies all Russian majority areas, Russia is going to be in a very awkward situation, since advancing beyond these areas could make Europe sufficiently nervous that they stop dithering.

Once Russia occupies all Russian majority areas, they are going to offer a peace deal based on that area of occupation, plus rump Ukraine to be neutral, disarmed, and to respect Russians, the Russian language, and the Russian Orthodox Church. Europe and the proxy regime in Kiev are likely to offer a ceasefire based on the line of contact, which would turn into continued lower level war.

At that point Russia has no alternative but to continue onwards, or horizontally escalate against Europe in some other way, either of which leads to World War III.

Suppose the Russians occupy all of the Ukraine, create a rump Ukrainian government, and hold elections? This might make the Europeans so nervous that they escalate, and even if they do not, chances are that Europe will just continue low level war, now against the rump Ukrainian government, in which case Russia has to escalate.

Obviously, once the Ukrainian army is exterminated, Russia can impose its preferred outcome in Ukraine — Russian majority areas part of Russia, non Russian areas governed by a neutral regime that respect the rights of Russian language speakers and the Russian Orthodox Church. But what it cannot do is impose peace, if Europe persists in low level war even after the Ukraine ceases to be capable of war.

Europe’s preferred outcome is forever low level war with Russia, and they do not much care where this war is fought, since the objective is to exhaust Russia and Russians. This makes Russia and Russians nervous, so Russians would prefer escalate to a high level war so that they can fight the war to a decisive conclusion. Once the Ukrainian army is no more, if Europe attempts to continue low level war, it will be war without the Ukrainian fig leaf, in which case Russia is likely to escalate directly against Europe.

On the other hand, Russia has established a credible threat of responding to forever low level war with high level war. So, once the Ukrainian fig leaf is gone, Europe may chicken out and accept peace on Russian terms. Or they might gamble on Russia chickening out in favor of low level forever war, which I think would be a foolish gamble, for Russians are sick of low level forever war.

126 comments War and rational choice

A2 says:

I have to raise my eyebrow at the idea of Nato (minus the US, even??) wanting to fight Russia right now. Their armies are mostly unready and unequipped and will remain so for a decade. Their populations are unwilling. The young men and women are increasingly black and kebab, which can only be deployed in desperation. (Or are we supposed to do like Ukraine and send out the olds first? On the bright side, that might solve our pensions problems for a while.)

In short, for EU current outlook dark and jonesing for a big war stupid. But one supposes the EU bureaucrats prefer to see a short, victorious one.

Jim says:

> the idea of Nato (minus the US, even??) wanting to fight Russia right now.

They don’t want to fight Russia right now. But they cannot accept the idea that if Russia is winning, Russia does not have to make concessions for peace. They have to make concessions for peace.

The Cominator says:

The gay race communists think they can solve both their economic and dissent problems if they can just break up Russia and because they believe in the “right side of history” they think they can win… somehow. They don’t know how but questioning the endsieg is not allowed.

Contaminated NEET says:

I never thought of it that way, but you’re right: they genuinely think that all their dissent problems boil down to Russian bots, Russian propaganda, and Russian money. It’s not that they’re wrong (obviously), it’s not that people genuinely disagree with them, and it’s not that their propaganda is now garbage that doesn’t work like it used to. It’s Russia. It’s Putin. It’s evil foreigners infecting our bovine minds with lies. That explains a lot.

William Williams says:

It is increasingly difficult to say whether it is more degrading to be a subject of the EU, or to be ruling it.

A2 says:

If Russia takes Odessa and hinterlands too and leaves rump-Ukraine landlocked, that would count as a decisive victory in my book. They will then have split off the non-Russians into a separate, feeble state and improved their position in the Black Sea substantially, including a border with Moldavia.

The fate of rump-Ukraine is interesting, if we assume it will be compelled to be neutral after the war. It can’t be too friendly with the West without sacrificing neutrality (which it might want to do, but can’t). It can’t join Nato (or, presumably, EU), and it can’t have Nato troops inside. I don’t think a wheeze like a direct alliance with the US or something like that is acceptable either. Is it a viable state at all?

If it is unviable, I expect Russia to have a keen interest in not allowing Nato to creep up on the border by other means, such as splitting up the country and absorbing it into its Western neighbors.

glot says:

russia wont be allowed to take odessa.

Jim says:

> russia wont be allowed

And who is going to stop them? You are running out of Ukrainians.

Pax Imperialis says:

Probably the Russians. They’ve been shockingly levelheaded with extreme diplomatic self restraint.

hcm says:

Russia wasn’t allowed to take Crimea, but despite the impossibility, it has been incorporated for more than a decade.

A2 says:

I read one of many articles on the downsides of being famous: https://tim.blog/2020/02/02/reasons-to-not-become-famous/comment-page-3/

It made me wonder again why the mental hospitals were emptied out and how quickly they can be rebuilt and refilled again. Honestly, the schizos should always be long-term hospitalized (or permanently so). Current mores also encourages them with weed and the like to get their big schizo break ASAP. The terribly stupid idea of free-range mental patients can be consider conclusively disproven.

alf says:

Presumably fame in the ancestral environment equated to tribe leader or rival tribe leader. Fame meant capacity to do violence and ellicited shit-tests and challenges. Without the capacity to do violence to those who would challenge you, fame is likely not worth the societal shit-tests it elicits.

Humungus says:

Wars past were fought for honor, land, or lust.

Modern war is fought for profit and population control so the outcome is expected.

Fight for yourself, not corrupt officials.

Karl says:

My understanding of Roman history is that they fought wars for profit and population control, not always but often enough.

Humungus says:

You’re correct. It seems Whites have always been wolf to each other so nothing has changed.

Perhaps I was using nostalgia to provide a sense of hope.

S says:

The difference was in Rome the grunts and generals got profit from war loot so there was a connection between victory, troop survival (since the soldiers could look at your past record) and payoff.

Jim says:

> in Rome the grunts and generals got profit from war loot

It seems likely that we are going to transition to a highly unequal aristocratic system of direct military rule. Either through internal rebellion and revival, or though foreign conquest by old type Islam followed by white disappearance. Our Republic, like the Roman Republic, is walking dead. The voters have noticed that they never get what they voted for.

Obviously making sure that grunts and officers directly benefit from victory is going to be part of this transition. Making sure that camp followers benefit, though considerably less, is also part of this transition — we have to outsource logistics. If not everyone in the army fights, pretty soon you have an army like that of Britain, where no one fights. We have to get back to an all combatant army.

But, at the time of Rome, what short was bread, salt, and olive oil. Today, the biggest health problem of the poor is obesity and insulin resistance. What is short today is obedient virgin wives, children, and grandchildren. So, victory needs to provide not primarily gold and land, but wives.

I have noticed several female romances set in a fantasy world or a futuristic Japan or America where the state and the state religion takes drastic measures against women and in favor of soldiers and taxpayers to ensure an adequate supply of sons. We need to make that sexual fantasy real.

Randall says:

> We need to make that sexual fantasy real.

It used to be real.
Then someone, clearly either a cuck, or a gay, or bribed by the Jew, allowed the “Feminist” movement to spring out of his house in form of the “Emancipated Free Woman”.
So now it has become legal for a man’s wife to parade herself in front of the Negro/Muslim to seek rape, and not legal for the husband to require fulfillment of the marriage.
When this is restored back to the Old Ways, much gains and fruits will the Civilization bear again.
If not restored, the Civilization will complete its collapse into the rather non-exceptional least-common-denominator one of the Negro/Muslim.
A time of rule by the most violent of roving Beasts, rather than by the proper civility of the well-architected Light of Creation.

The most convincing argument to the Feral Woman, shall likely be to become the race of Superior Men, in Public, again.
And there is only one generation left to do it.

And if Man cannot displace the Left, which weaponizes the Ferality, from among His own Govt, than what Man is he?

Contaminated NEET says:

> Then someone, clearly either a cuck, or a gay, or bribed by the Jew, allowed the “Feminist” movement to spring out of his house

It always seems very easy and very profitable for a man to take a woman’s side against another man. I see “manly men” doing it all day long. Maybe he’s a cad or a “sneaky fucker,” and he’s after a sexual reward, either from the woman he sticks up for or from other women observing and approving. Maybe he’s already well established, with plenty of wealth, power, and offspring, and he’s sabotaging a potential rival who’s still getting set up. Maybe it doesn’t actually pay off, but it feels like it will.

Compare a typical Father’s Day sermon: “You fathers need to man up and do better!” to a typical Mother’s Day sermon: “Mothers are goddesses and angels, and we can never repay them for all that they do for us.” Thanks, Pastor. Well done.

Jim says:

> Compare a typical Father’s Day sermon: “You fathers need to man up and do better!” to a typical Mother’s Day sermon: “Mothers are goddesses and angels, and we can never repay them for all that they do for us.”

Every white knight needs the stuffing beaten out of him for threatening another man’s property. Starting with that pastor.

Contaminated NEET says:

Jim, that’s every pastor.

Jim says:

> Jim, that’s every pastor.

That is not the pastor at my wedding.

jaggard says:

>Europe and the proxy regime in Kiev are likely to offer a ceasefire
>if Europe persists in low level war
>Europe’s preferred outcome is forever low level war with Russia
>Europe may chicken out and accept peace on Russian terms.

It seems you misspelled CIA a few times. You wrote “europe” instead of CIA/US jews/neocons.

Karl says:

Europeans say America and mean USA, Amercians say Europe and mean Western Europe.

jaggard says:

Well, Estonia is not western europe and yet Estonia wants to further attack Russia. But of course it’s not so much Estonia as the CIA puppet government of Estonia.

Likewise, Nordstream was built under Merkel and Putin, and was destroyed by trump and biden.

In a nutshell, like ukraine and eastern europe, western europe is a pawn of the US war party.

Pax Imperialis says:

US war faction has moved on from Russia and China. They realized they effectively lost against the Houthis and the implications what peer anti-ship capabilities would do to the navy. It’s why Trump hasn’t had any push back from the Pentagon on returning to the Monroe doctrine. Hell, even State Department is reorienting under significant pressure from the administration (i.e. mass ambassador recalls).

What you’re seeing in Europe is now almost entirely Brussels taking things to their extreme logical conclusion even if it destroys them.

Taboaik says:

The problem with fighting pirates like the Houthis today is that the inexpensive tried and true methods would cause too much backlash against the people doing it. We don’t have a hot shooting war to fight with China right now, so you can’t say we’re pivoting from it, while we do have long standing business to settle with Cuba and Venezuela.

As for “the implications what peer anti-ship capabilities would do to the navy” that’s not news, what we’ve learned is we have empty magazines, and that the Navy just stopped making Mark 48 torpedoes decades ago. The US MIC appears to find it a lot more profitable to develop new, capable weapons than to push for making them in quantity.

So we learned there’s a huge bottleneck of only one certified company making the rocket engines that most of them need. That’s being addressed, but for now the best thing we can do is procure weapons including drones, Hegseth has designated the cheaper ones as ammo which is easy to procure compared to more sophisticated stuff, and sell weapons to Taiwan.

Should the PLA try to take Taiwan or blockade it which would turn off most of their electricity in a matter of days, it really depends on the will and courage of who’s in charge in the US at the time. China has immense vulnerabilities if we’re willing to exploit them, we could for example interdict ocean born commerce a bit like we’re doing with Venezuela. Except we do have more than enough torpedoes to enforce a declared maritime exclusion zone, and the Navy is working to get them back in production.

There’s also the sobering story of what’s happening in the Ukraine, it should give pause to Xi to the extent he even has much real power today, and to anyone else in the power structure. There’s doubts about him when so many of his picks for top positions in the military get disappeared or otherwise get purged within a year of being promoted. Shows something is going very wrong at the highest levels of the government, at least compared to the official story of who’s governing the country.

Pax Imperialis says:

>The problem with fighting pirates like the Houthis…

What you said is true, but it misses the objective lesson the war faction learned. We can’t effectively intercept their cheap rockets, and the Chinese and Russians surely have better ones with far superior guidance systems. This isn’t merely an empty magazine problem. A naval conflict would quickly turn into an attritional war, and we don’t build any where enough ships to sustain the losses we would sustain.

>We don’t have a hot shooting war to fight with China right now, so you can’t say we’re pivoting from it

There were reports 8 months ago the China hawks were losing influence in the White House. Now it is being reported that among the mass recall of ambassadors the hawks are being replaced by “diplomats”. Military assets are being shifted to the Americas. Commands are being restructured for hemisphere defense. Even SecWar is touting cooperation and understanding with China. There is a clear change in military and diplomatic priorities.

jaggard says:

>What you’re seeing in Europe is now almost entirely Brussels taking things to their extreme logical conclusion even if it destroys them.

I see no evidence for that claim. In the read world, european governments are laughable CIA puppets. Of course, you can expect CIA assets to try to deny such a self-evident truth.

Alf says:

History is rife with examples of puppets thinking they no longer need their masters. Zelensky and the EU being but the latest examples.

jaggard says:

Right. The puppets might think they are free agents, but they remain puppets and so their actions are dictated by their puppet masters.

Alf says:

I was thinking of actual revolts, like the Ukranian Ivan Mazepa who revolted against Russian Peter the great. Mazepa found out the hard way he could not do without Peter.

Then again, whether the EU taking steps toward (forced) mobilisation is an actual revolt against American interests, maybe not. Revolt against Trump, sure. But America effectively has two governments at this point, a tiny presidency controlled by Trump, and an immense machine controlled by not exactly the CIA, but not exactly not the CIA.

Jim says:

Mike Benz is a former state department officer and insider who is working very hard to track the threads of power. He is apt to produce four hour Youtube broadcasts densely packed with information that cannot be summarised.

He calls the apparatus that actually governs “The Blob”. Saying “the CIA” is as untrue as saying “the Jews”

And a whole lot of The Blob is located in Europe, or has relocated to Europe. (And a whole lot of the blob is Jewish, but it is not “the Jews”, anymore than it is Europe or the CIA.)

Power is centralised, and, as we saw with USAID, power has a physical headquarters, a bunch of computers, an IT department, an HR Department, and all that. But at the same time power is personnel, who seem to move around a lot — treating each physical headquarters as if was a hotel.

The left continually turns upon each other. Leftism is a pile of conspiracies to take power and money away from other people, including other leftists. So any entity that sticks its head above the parapet, as for example, the CIA, immediately gets attacked and devoured by the rest of the left.

It is not “the Jews”, it is not “the CIA”, it is not “the State Department”, it is not the FBI, it is not even “Brussels”. Because if it was the rest of the left would immediately turn upon them and devour them.

The left continually centralises power into a few hands, but at the same time those few hands are continually under threat from other leftists, which makes it very messy to trace power. Mike Benz provides more detail than anyone can handle because there is more detail than anyone can handle.

Pax Imperialis says:

CIA is effectively the armed wing of State Department and as I mentioned before, there are mass recall of ambassadors going on. This event happened after Trump laid out a new policy of freeing Europe from Brussels, who responded by passing more legislation for censorship. There is a clear political and diplomatic divide now, but go ahead, bury your head in the sand and ignore the reality around you. Everyone else sees your ass propped up into the sky like a faggot.

Jim says:

> In the read world, european governments are laughable CIA puppets.

Key personnel of the censorship industrial complex self deported to Europe, so presumably that is where the left’s centre of organisation is now located, since Musk couped USAID.

The disarray that ensued when Musk couped USAID indicates that command and control was largely located there, not at CIA headquarters.

Pax Imperialis says:

Is CIA even effective at anything anymore. They reported a few years back their entire China network got liquidated and that they are having a terrible time re-establishing it. Around the same time they were pushing recruiting videos touting their DEI credentials. Also got to meet a few people that work there. Late 20s Blacks and not terribly impressive intellectually, and one geriatric White guy who was a walking sack of bones.

jaggard says:

Come on Jim, you know as well as I do that the plan to conquer Russia is purely a US plan, in which your jews are very heavily involved. To quote you :

“The Ukraine project was Jews figuring they could use National Socialists to sic whites onto whites.”

https://blog.reaction.la/war/venezuelan-conflict/#comment-2985886

Also, it’s good that you bring up USAIDS. For starters, USAIDS wasn’t even completely shut down.

https://www.npr.org/2025/07/01/nx-s1-5451372/usaid-officially-shuts-down-and-merges-remaining-operations-with-state-department

USAID officially shuts down and merges remaining operations with State Department

https://abcnews.go.com/Health/usaid-programs-now-run-state-department-agency-ends/story?id=123373289

USAID programs now being run by State Department

etc

So assuming that the USAID coup was done in good faith, it only partially succeeded, but more important, USAID was just one of the countless branches of the US “deep state”, or “the blob”, or “the war party” or whatever the fuck you want to call them.

>Key personnel of the censorship industrial complex self deported to Europe

I don’t think that’s true or relevant if true. The relevant fact is that european governments keep following the US script to the letter.

>not at CIA headquarters

It should be pretty obvious that the CIA is at the center of “the blob” anyway.

Jim says:

> For starters, USAIDS wasn’t even completely shut down.

It was shut down enough to cause massive chaos and disorganisation on the left.

The left now looks to the blue states, and to Europe and Canada, for funding and direction.

FrankNorman says:

In response to: What you’re seeing in Europe is now almost entirely Brussels taking things to their extreme logical conclusion even if it destroys them.

This reminds me of something said by one of CS Lewis’ characters:
“In fighting those who serve devils one always has this on one’s side; their Masters hate them as much as they hate us. The moment we disable the human pawns enough to make them useless to Hell, their own Masters finish the work for us. They break their tools.”

hcm says:

You hardly need the CIA’s efforts. Our empire’s provincials are more zealous than the heartland.

jaggard says:

OK, second CIA asset trying to deny self-evident truths.

FrankNorman says:

Are you an “anyone who disagrees with me is a CIA asset” person?

Pax Imperialis says:

Reminds me of older liberals back when CIA actually did shit.

hcm says:

You’ve found me out. I’m a CIA asset.

Much more realistic than the prospect that a continent of people selected for obedience and risk aversion are so zealously loyal the state religion that they don’t need CIA supervision.

jaggard says:

LMAO at all the trumpist retards, led by Jim of course, trying to pretend that european governments are not fully under CIA control.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/puppet%20government

alf says:

At least make an effort to explain your argument. Why the CIA over state department? Why the CIA over Harvard, over the media, over the FBI, over Mossad, over the Pentagon, over USAID?

For instance, we have evidence that the main conspirators behind the Maidan coup were Victoria Nuland (state department) and Geoffrey Pyatt (state department). Where is your evidence to the contrary?

Jim says:

> fully under CIA control.

The CIA has been irrelevant and insignificant for quite some time.

Whenever we can track power to where it comes from, CIA nowhere in sight. What is in sight is Soros, USAID, and so on and so forth.

It was the state department that overthrew the Party of the Regions in the Ukraine, and installed a brutal tyrannical dictatorship. And then it was the British who sank the Minsk agreements. The British have always been a lot more keen on the US going to war with Russia than the US has been keen on going to war with Russia. This is not only obvious now, it was obvious under Biden.

jaggard says:

Alf:
>Why the CIA over state department? Why the CIA over Harvard, over the media, over the FBI, over Mossad, over the Pentagon, over USAID?

I didn’t imply it’s the CIA over any of those. It’s all of those since all of those are parts of the war party, the blob, or…the US government.

The obvious point here, which is apparently being purposedly ignored, is that european governments are acting to serve US interests, not european interests.

Cominator:
>The European governments are under some faction of the American permanent government sure

And “some” faction means the so called war party, which is the preeminent faction.

Jim:
>The CIA has been irrelevant and insignificant for quite some time.

The Spy War: How the C.I.A. Secretly Helps Ukraine Fight Putin
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/25/world/europe/cia-ukraine-intelligence-russia-war.html

https://abcnews.go.com/International/cia-helped-rebuild-ukraine-intelligence-russia-invasion/story?id=116909361
“17 Jan 2025 … The CIA also eventually helped Ukraine equip a dozen forward-operating bases along the Russian border”

etc

Anyway, I’m eagerly waiting for yet another “peace deal” coming from “peace president” Trump. He delivers a “peace deal” every month or so.

Jim says:

> I didn’t imply it’s the CIA over any of those

Yes you did, and you got torn to shreds because obviously stupid.

Where is power physically located? You can tell, because powerful people need to meet up with other powerful people. And when a lot of powerful people hold a meet, it is often in Europe.

> European governments are acting to serve US interests, not european interests.

Trump has a long, long, long, laundry list of economic issues where it is obvious that Europe was not sacrificing its interests for America’s. Rather America was sacrificing its economic interests for Europe’s.

What about America’s military and strategic interests? Obviously Europe has not been carrying its weight.

Jim says:

It is not “the CIA”

It is “Globohomo”,

It is not the American Empire. It is the Globohomo Empire.

People who are have American passports and office in the American government are prominent elements of the Globohomo apparatus, but they are not true Americans, and people who have Jewish ancestry are prominent elements of the Globohomo apparatus, but they want to destroy Israel and Jews as much as they want to destroy America and Americans.

jaggard says:

here we go : MacGregor says

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzuP4WC5tuc minute 8:30

“we should not lose sight of the fact that regardless of whatever president trump says regardless of whatever directives he issues the CIA is still heavily engaged in ukraine.”

“president trump says one thing on the phone and putin recognizes that he’s probably sincere but things continue unchanged”

I don’t think trump is sincere at all – he’s a neocon warmonger, but this time Macgregor says otherwise (In other interviews Macgregor recognizes that trump isn’t sincere)

>It is not the American Empire. It is the Globohomo Empire.

Lots of trump neocon accomplices are also faggots, yes. For instance, thiel, bessen and graham.

>they are not true Americans,

So who are the true americans. Is Massie who makes a point of not being bought by the jews a true american? Or is it trump whose job is to follow every order that comes from the jews.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/29/us/politics/trump-netanyahu-israel-meeting.html

“Trump Affirms Bond With Netanyahu and Says U.S. Would Back New Iran Strikes”

Alf:
>I’ve seen T-shirts fold under less pressure.

yes? You should also take a look at my first post. It said “CIA/US jews/neocons”. You then admited that european governments are puppets. And then just jumped to “refute” something I never said…

Jim says:

McGregor is a good source for what is happening in the Ukraine, but a poor source for what is happening in the west. He is full of shit.

Mike Benz is the good source on what is happening in America. To understand who is keeping the war going, Mike Benz.

“It is the EU, it is Soros town, it is the Democrats, it is the remaining never Trump Republicans”

jaggard says:

Benz says :
“it’s about the 75 trillions dollars worth of natural resources inside of Russia – it’s about control over the entire eurasian landscape

it’s important to remember the stakes : the ukraine sits on 14 trillion dollars worth of natural resources between the shale, the petroleum, the rare eath minerals.

[The 300 billions spent on the war] subsidized the R&D capital for military industrial complex contractors, big mining companies, big gas giants, big agricultural companies.

Ukraine is being put through shock therapy – while it’s firing the machine guns like a mad man, it’s convulsing at the biological and cellular level as it’s being sold off nucleus by nucleus of every cell to another wall street and london trading firm.

So guess what. It’s not about anti-rights for faggot scum. That’s just a propaganda excuse used by “the left”, i.e. wall street and the “city” of london.

“It is the EU, it is Soros town, it is the Democrats, it is the remaining never Trump Republicans”

So it’s the democrats and the republicans. Majority of republicans pretend to dislike trump, although most of what trump does is standard US statism, that is to say, pro-wall-street crimes.

Also, a more complete quote is

“that is the animating spirit of france, germany, the UK, to some extent norway, the dutch – it’s the EU – that’s soros town – this is where all this reconstruction money is coming apart from the US – you basically have democrats, the remaining never trump republicans and europe [controlling] zelensk’s body” (he doesn’t say “controlling” – he uses a word I can’t make out – “burgeoning”?)

So Benz is saying that europe is “soros town” – like I said, european governments are puppet governments. But of course not literally of soros – if anything soros is a proxy for the US “blob”.

>McGregor is … a poor source for what is happening in the west

Yes? Which lies does he tell or what mistakes does he make?

Alf says:

> European governments are fully under CIA control
> I didn’t imply it’s the CIA over any of those

I’ve seen T-shirts fold under less pressure.

Humungus says:

“Mike Benz is the good source on what is happening in America. To understand who is keeping the war going…”

The wolves are circling that last bastion of White purity (Russia). War profiteering and thinning the herd is in play. They smell fresh meat and blood.

Wolves do not stop unless you hunt them down and either exterminate or cage them.

To a wolf, peace is just a nap between meals.

The Cominator says:

The European governments are under some faction of the American permanent government sure (or the American permanent government is under the same people the Euro governments are under) but from an outside perspective stating definitively what organ that is is rather difficult. Mike Benz seemed to imply the Atlantic Council (an NGO) was the kind of ruling body (at least as far as he can trace it) for them both but there isn’t any certainty here.

jaggard says:

Hey guys! Look at this one :

“Starving Russian soldiers are ‘cutting up and eating’ fellow troops amid ration shortages, an intercepted radio message appears to show. ”

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world/starving-russian-soldiers-planning-to-eat-each-other/ar-AA1SM5Vd

So that’s how stupid jews are in reality. That’s the kind of propaganda that the best jew masterminds can come up with.

The sad part is that the western retards who consume jew propaganda are even more stupid than the jews who dish it out.

ps:Russians missiles are actually repurposed washing machines.

Pax Imperialis says:

Please tell, how Jewish is Ursula von der Leyen or any of the other EU bureaucrats that peddle the majority of this shit?

Yes, Jewish misbehavior is real, but if this was merely a Jewish problem, the West would not be as fucked as it currently is. This is very much a problem of European progressives (gnostics) that has been with the West since before Christ stepped foot on the earth, or are you so far gone as to claim the legacy of the French and English revolution were in reality Jewish driven plots?

jaggard says:

Oh my bad. I didn’t realize that german cunt owned microsoft, and wrote the pentagon propaganda that microsoft vomits.

https://www.msn.com/

>if this was merely a Jewish problem

Did I say it is merely a jew problem. Oh, look I didn’t say it’s merely a jew problem. As a matter of fact, I said

>the western retards who consume jew propaganda are even more stupid than the jews

And that would be you.

Pax Imperialis says:

Go ahead, ignore how the pro-Ukraine narrative is now mostly coming out of Europe. The MSN article itself a re-post of a British newspaper article which is notorious for being an EU mouth piece.

Go ahead, ignore how it’s the EU now that is by far the main monetary and material supportor of Ukraine. Just a few days ago they sent €2.3 billion, and just a few day prior approved a €90 billion loan to Ukraine. Do you see America doing the same? No you don’t. The allocated budget has shrunk into the hundreds of millions with no legal requirement to actually disburse any of that. The same budget also mostly gives the go ahead for troop withdrawals from Europe.

>Oh, look I didn’t say it’s merely a jew problem.
>>the western retards who consume jew propaganda

Bitch please, when you blame everything on Jews while conspicuously ignoring everything else, and non-stop spewing about ‘jew propaganda’ this or ‘CIA/US jews/neocons’ (we all know from your past posting history you use CIA/neocon interchangeably with jews), that you might as well be saying it’s merely a jew problem. If you spent even half the time and effort you did ranting about dozens of other far more pressing problems we face, no one you bat an eye at what you say about jews, but you don’t. You glow in the dark so hard you might not even be a shill. Just mentally ill.

S says:

You are late to the party. ‘Russia is running out of x’ has been a consistent theme in Western propaganda (my favorite is ‘Russian troops have run out of ammunition and been reduced to using shovels), repeated as much as ‘Putin weaponizes x’ and ‘Putin humilitated/spinning/realing/etc’.

In this case, it is almost certainly like Ukrainian claims about Russian casualties- projection since the claims occured just as Ukrainian troops were cut off without resupply.

Anon says:

Trump 2 now

The situation and solution

i concur with yarvin

Your Uncle Bob says:

[I]f obvious structural reforms are not undertaken simply because of structural inertia, you probably have not brought enough power to the table.

An incisive and valuable point. Though the article as a whole mixes a fair critique of the Trump admin with a positive prescription that doesn’t necessarily follow.

… treat it like an Arkansas miscarriage. Chuck the plastic bag out the sunroof. The possums will get to it first.

Simultaneously vulgar and dismissively anti-Amerikaner. Even when they’re on our side, even when they’re smarter than me and more valuable to the movement, the jew just can’t keep himself from jewing.

accepting the real commitments the state has made to its servants, who were not at fault for serving a different regime which no longer exists, is accepting the mantle of continuity of the state. … For successful minions of the old regime—inside or outside the formal government—their old jobs had both status and value. They were both noble ranks, and sources of income. They spent their careers building up that rank and paycheck. To simply erase these things is a pointless injustice.

Shades of Anonymous Fake. Namefagging makes for strange bedfellows.

America needs a new kind of political party, which is actually an old kind of party: a hard party.

The right being allowed anything like what he describes after this is itself a coup complete problem. First he threatens us with Trump appointees and allies being jailed or worse (yeah, probably), then pretends we can do this other thing that’s even more threatening without it being noticed or sanctioned.

Probably, in 2020, the libs did not hack the voting machines. But if they could have (and gotten away with it), they would have.

Well there’s some enemy payload. Probably repeater station not shill script, but still.

Jim says:

> Even when they’re on our side, even when they’re smarter than me and more valuable to the movement, the jew just can’t keep himself from jewing.

Moldbug was always that way. Upon becoming namefag Yarvin, became a whole lot worse.

> > They spent their careers building up that rank and paycheck. To simply erase these things is a pointless injustice.

> Shades of Anonymous Fake. Namefagging makes for strange bedfellows.

Everything they have was cruelly and treacherously stolen. To return it to the rightful possessors is impossible, but if whoever next seizes that wealth and power sends that lot to die of exposure in Alaska, it would be great and well deserved justice for the endless crimes they have committed and continue to commit.

Ninety percent of judges should be doing ten to twenty. If there is not enough room in the jails, kill them.

Randall says:

> die of exposure in Alaska
> Judges

Witches by Fire.
Treason by the Squad.
Judges by Polar Bear.
Please, Good Sers, do tell of the best ways for all the trials!

Anonymous Fake says:

The thing is, a lot of government workers only believe in Cathedral ideology because it is compulsory, and it was compulsory from the moment they were forced into a government school, graded, and ranked, for their future career. They obey it because they have to, if their intent is to work their way up the ladder and someday secure a meaningful position where they can change things. There is no guilt in any kind of obedience, and their intent is clearly benevolent, and the ideal time and place to stop them is simply to not force them into a school, and make the country actually capitalistic again. Conservatives who lash out against them in the middle of their careers are blatantly being fake opposition.

The greengrocer puts up Cathedral propaganda by choice. He’s not going anywhere, in any sense of the word. He just calculates that he’ll make more money by appeasing the Cathedral true believers in the mob, who tend to get away with breaking and burning things, but the state itself doesn’t force the greengrocer to do anything.

The greengrocer is a liar. The man in a uniform telling you he is just obeying orders and he hopes he will earn his way into the Inner Party someday, so that he can have his say about things, is honest.

Jim says:

Cathedral ideology does not make judges break the law. The Cathedral is not forcing judges and bureaucrats to be corrupt. The Cathedral enables them to be corrupt.

The California fast rail program and the California homeless program are not caused by their ideology.

Their ideology did not lead them to let Hollywood burn.

The Cominator says:

Not sure about that, since their ideology is more and more Jim Jones’ death cult likely did cause them to let California burn. Corruption other is more something it just allows because it doesn’t care about because they are robbing unholy white males which is almost morally neutral.

Jim says:

Much of the state and quasi state violence and corruption is directed against white males and is therefore holy, but the fast rail project is holy, because electrical state transport, and helping the homeless is holy, yet all the money budgeted for fast rail and homeless appears to have been stolen.

They are not only stealing money from people and things they deem unholy, but to much the same degree stealing money from things they deem holy.

We are suffering massive loss of state capability because anything the state attempts to do, for example manufacture arms for Ukraine or build a bridge, just turns into looting.

Not only are members of congress getting strangely and inexplicably wealthy, judges and bureaucrats are getting strangely and inexplicably wealthy.

The Cominator says:

Thats not a recent development of leftist insanity though (not sure whether this supports or hurts your view) either it goes back to The Big Dig in the 90s. Florida seems to be the only state government that can build anything anymore without all of the money being stolen.

Anon says:

“Cathedral ideology does not make judges break the law.”

I don’t understand, the cathedral is a religious network, is based on consensus, and without pope and above him a king it turned evil.
So saying “cathedral ideology dose not MAKE judges break the law” is unintelligible, yes literally the cathedral dose not do this but because it a religious network , people have no choice to achieve holiness is to break the law.

“…not caused by their ideology.
Their ideology did not lead them to let Hollywood burn.”

That … I am kinda dumbfounded.
You always said on multiple occasions that burning and looting is a leftist core feature.
They always congregate to loot the most shaky apple cart.
The cathedral is the left modern version

Jim says:

The actual behavior of leftists is the opposite of their ideology — their ideology is kindness, niceness, caring, and giving.

Thus the actual behavior — looting, cruelty, and malicious destruction — is not the result of their ideology.

The reason leftist beliefs and principles change so often, so radically, and so abruptly is that they are merely a flag to rally around, and a bludgeon to strike people down.

So their behavior does not result from their ideology, rather their ideology results from their behavior.

A leftist will snatch the shack of a starving Haitian and the bread from the mouths of his children just as energetically has he will go after the wealth of oligarchs — observe what happened in the aftermath of the Haitian earthquake. The plague of do gooders equipped with billions of aid money did more destruction and caused more suffering than the earthquake.

A leftist hates you, he hates me, he hates the Haitians, and he hates himself. And that is why Hollywood burned. The left burned Hollywood because it was full of leftists.

Which does not mean the belief system does not matter. The belief system is how they coordinate action. But the action is apt to fail because any money or resources allocated for the common purpose gets stolen.

JT says:

On one side, we have globohomo, i.e. the post-WWII governments that occupy the collective West but do not represent the people and nations they occupy.

Nor do they produce or manufacture the materiels at the scale needed for war since they are debt financialized economic zones that have been flooded with the 3rd world. Nor do they invoke patriotism aka nationalism since they have demonized that concept since the end of WWII.

So we have economic zones that do not produce or manufacture and a people that (rightfully) do not want to fight for globohomo.

On the other side we have Russia and China. Both produce and manufacture materiels needed for war. Both invoke and support national pride. Both have peoples that are willing to die for them.

It seems rather clear who will win and lose this war.

Varna says:

China’s fertility today is 1.0. The fertility in Russia’s European Slavic oblasts is between 1.00 and 1.4, and is likely much less than 1.4, because some regional authorities lie to the center.

Just like Beijing, about two years ago now, suddenly realized the regions were lying, and forced through an actual real census, and had to take a deep breath and radically revise downwards its numbers and projections. The regions like to round up numbers in ways that they think will make the center pat them on the heads and channel more gibs.

Moscow’s way of dealing with higher level incompetence and corruption is a series of kindly warnings and playful slaps on the wrist, and then suddenly the guy tragically falls out of a window. Many people realize after the second or third slap on the wrist that the tragic slipping on a banana peel may be fast approaching, and change their behavior, but it’s a messy way of maintaining the system. Beijing’s way is much more linear — instant investigation and firing, escalating as needed to jail time, escalating as needed to firing squad.

Anyway, back to the modern population. People who do not breed are not going to sacrifice themselves for anything. They are not the type. Of those who are the type, if you do have say a demographic X% who are indeed willing to do something like that, with China it’s X% of the able-bodied men within a population 1.4 billion, with Russia it’s X% of the able-bodied men within a population of 140 million.

Population is a super valuable non-renewable resource in the 2020s in ways which were unthinkable in the 20th century. Back then you lose half your men, the population bounces back in 15 years. This is no longer the case, now if you lose them – you lost them and that’s that’. Nothing will fill that hole in the social fabric, unless you import infinite wogs.

Today’s anti-Russia propaganda includes endless meat-waves of orcs filling up fields all the way to the horizon in a “drown in you in our bodies” zerg rush. People who believe this are stuck mentally in the 20th century. Russia can no more afford to sacrifice a generation of young men than can China. Today’s young men and women within a context of flatlined birth rates are a core non-renewable resource.

The Ukraine was 40 million not too long ago. If Russia had to match Ukraine’s army numbers with their own proper army numbers, especially drafted 18 year old youths, this would definitely put stress on society. So Moscow instead cobbles together a mix of a) professional army cadres, b) former army mercs, c) national guard units from Russia’s constituent states, d) pardon-seeking convicts, e) ideological volunteers, f) people’s militias from the Donbass, g) bribed plebs from commie block ghettos.

If Russia’s losses in this war were mainly conscripted 18 year old youths, and the results of this war were not say an instant new golden age for Russians, Putin’s govt would have already lost the mandate of heaven. The cost would so far outweigh any benefits as to be unbearable. But the losses are not mainly conscripted 18 year old youths; rather an eclectic mix of adults, a significant percentage of whom are middle-aged ne’er-do-wells that are not really the flowers of their nation.

A proper massive war would be something different. That’s when you really do mobilize the nation. That’s when Russia or China really would need to sacrifice their non-renewable 21st century resource of young men. Reaching the point when this is inevitable would already in itself be a strategic defeat.

dave says:

Dont forget North Korean Army regulars looking for experience in modern battlefields (win/win?). file that under “foreign mercs”

We wont ever get to a proper massive war… thats still 20th century thinking. 21st century is our drones vs their drones, until someone runs out of drones and drone operators.

Any target larger than a dirt bike is a dinosaur. Include fixed points like, oh, say electrical substations, fueling points, … tents with antennaes. Tanks and vehicles are right out.

Standoff weapons potentially still relevant. if they are way off. anything 50-100km from line of contact should be in full dispersal.

But that means your last point is on the nose. idea now is not to let yourself get into this situation. But Europe is not listening.

Varna says:

The norks are locked away in Kursk oblast, getting a narrow slice of real war experience, taking over the business of tying down of Ukrainian soldier incursions, freeing up Russian soldiers to wage war in the actual Ukraine.

Unless one or both sides are ready to escalate to total war, below this level war follows unspoken rules of “acceptable and unacceptable conduct” and “appropriate and inappropriate escalation”, which unspoken rules are improvised in real time on the spot by everyone involved.

For example Israel carries out a terror attack inside Iran, and takes out some top brass or a bunch of crucial scientists. Iran is not ready to escalate to total war, and thus tells the US: “we’re going to reply by sending a hundred missiles at Tel Aviv.” The US is also not ready to escalate to total war, and thus replies: “that’s fair. Only a dozen of your missiles will reach their target away. However, in turn we ourselves will be forced to shoot 200 tomahawks at this military base of yours.” Iran says: “200 tomahawks? You’re killing me. Fine. But in return we’re going to have some proxies in Yemen try to hit a ship of yours and we’ll publicly cheer them on.” The US replies: “whatever.” And thus the ripples generated by the original Israeli attack are managed in a multi-step kinetic winddown with everyone involved exchanging blows that decrease with each round, until the drama is played out and goes back to sub-threshold levels.

In the Ukraine, if suddenly the actual eastern Ukraine is flooded with regular divisions of norks, or chinamen, or iranians, or cubans, or bolivians or what have you, this escalates things to insane levels. It will no longer matter if Europe is ready or not, it will not matter if they have the tech, the ammo, the logistics, they will have no choice but to instantly flood western Ukraine with French, Spanish, German and other divisions. And once this happens, total war is one mishap away. As things stand, neither Moscow, nor Brussels, nor Washington are ready for this. Thus, until someone is ready to play for keeps, the norks can only ever take over army duty inside Russia proper, to tie down Ukrainian glorious counteroffensives into Kursk oblast or any other neighboring oblast.

The same reason “why doesn’t Putin just bomb the snot out of all military and political HQs in the Ukraine, and destroy their energy infrastructure in one night of total bombardment, and take over the whole eastern half in one concentrated blitz”. Because doing this will throw the whole business into unforeseeable and unmanageable territory. If Russia decisively takes out the whole top of the Ukraine political and military machinery, and plunges the whole country into darkness and ruthlessly pushes on all the way to the Dnieper river, or even crosses it, globohomo may panic and react in a manner that raises the stakes to total war. So you gotta play it in a way that kind of achieves your objectives, but always below the threshold of total war.

Both sides use foreign mercs, both sides call them “international volunteers”, but neither side can afford to introduce regulars from a third player, because this instantly raises the stakes into crazy territory. Even back when Macron was swaggering how he’ll send in French troops into the Ukraine, the idea was for them to take over the passive guarding of the borders with the Crimea and Belarus, allowing the Ukrainian troops stationed there to be redirected to the front. But even that was judged to be too close to approaching a situation in which someone’s nerves give out in some tiny kolkhoz hamlet, shots are exchanged, and this instantly spiraling into a drama that no one is really ready to play.

Media reports implying that North Koreans are laying siege to Kharkov are always manipulations, like with the Russian meat waves, and the horrible genocidal total war that is being waged against a peaceful democratic tiny bastion of European liberalism. Below this superstructure of b.s. there is an underlying foundation, an empirical reality in which actual military men and actual statemen, thus far at least, are still managing to play the game of making up rules of conduct with the enemy on the go, day by day, in order to not unleash Fenrir.

Jim says:

> Below this superstructure of b.s. there is an underlying foundation, an empirical reality in which actual military men and actual statemen, thus far at least, are still managing to play the game of making up rules of conduct with the enemy on the go, day by day, in order to not unleash Fenrir.

Yes, but that was true in the lead up to world war I. But everyone was dancing closer and closer to the abyss, until suddenly like Wiley Coyote, they looked down and discovered they were already over the abyss, that they had unleashed Fenrir.

Globohomo never wanted high level war with Russia. They always wanted to slow cook the frog with never ending low level not-quite-war. (Though US artillery shells landing on the heads of Russian civilians in Donbas looks to me like plain old fashioned war, not low level war.)

And what they imagine now is that when the last Ukrainian is expended, it will just drop back to low level not-quite-war. But Russia is unwilling to accept low level not-quite-war, which they perceive as an effort to impose on Russia a government that hates Russians even more than the British government hates the British, by many steps each step just barely short of World War three.

Any European effort to keep the war going after the last Ukrainian soldier has been expended is going to be seen by the Russians as escalation, and any reaction by the Russians to efforts to keep the war going after the last Ukrainian soldier has been expended are going to be seen by the Europeans as escalation.

In the lead up to World War I, Russia and Serbia misjudged what Austria and Germany would regard as low level not-quite-war, and what they would regard as just plain war. From the Austrian and German point of view, Serbia started it, knowing it had full Russian backing, which Austria did not know. Serbia started it, and Russia expanded it into a world war. From the Russian and French point of view, Austria started it, responding to not-quite-war with an impossible ultimatum (albeit the only reason the ultimatum was impossible was that complying with it would have exposed wicked conduct by the Serbian and Russian monarchs to their royal kinfolk) and Germany expanded it into a world war by invading France through Belgium.

So, after the last Ukrainian soldier is maimed or killed, Russia then redraws Ukrainian borders to its liking. But the government in Kiev is still launching missiles and stuff. So Russia marches up to the Polish border, installs an acceptable government in rump Ukraine, and holds an election in rump Ukraine to give that government sufficient legitimacy so that it can sign a peace treaty accepting the new status quo.

But suppose Globohomo refuses to accept the peace treaty, the new Ukrainian government, and the new status quo and continues low level not-quite warfare, only without Ukrainian proxies?

Well then, Russia is going to have to respond to that with actual warfare, but now the proxy that contained the war against a general war will be gone.

Having eradicated the last Ukrainian soldier, Russia will then have to get to work eradicating the last Polish soldier, the last Lithuanian soldier, and the last Finnish soldier.

To end the war, Globohomo has to make peace. To continue the war after the last Ukrainian soldier is eradicated, has to do something that it will not regard as escalation, but as a response to Russian aggression. But Russia will regard it as escalation.

After the last Ukrainian soldier is eradicated, Russia will not only want to draw the borders to its satisfaction, but will want a peaceful government in Kiev. If Globohomo refuses to make peace, Russia will have go into Kiev and install a peaceful government, and then hold an election in rump Ukraine, because it wants a government with legitimacy to sign a peace deal.

And if the elected government in Kiev makes peace, but Globohomo does not make peace, it will attempt to overthrow that government from Poland, which will initially be done by “free Ukrainians” much as the initial Kursk intrusion was “free Russians”, but the fig leaf soon dropped when they were invading Kursk, and it will soon drop when Nato invades neutral Ukraine.

Putin has signalled that this will be OK, provided that “free Ukraine” leaves a buffer zone of neutral Ukraine between the Polish army and the new Russian territories. Russia just wants a buffer zone, and will tolerate that buffer zone being nibbled thin.

But Globohomo is unlikely to be content with any buffer zone at all, in which case we get direct conflict between Russa and the regular Nato armies, as they will swiftly find themselves as short of “free Ukrainians” as they found themselves short of “free Russians”.

Bix Nudelmann says:

By the above logic, which I can’t argue with, I can’t see what on earth can prevent Russia vs. NATO now, short of Trump getting out of NATO ASAP, and I don’t understand how that could actually happen, even if he and his remaining “republican” congress ordered it tomorrow.

Maybe Hegseth could coup it from within somehow, disabling all the nukes and slashing all the tires.

I was so naively hopeful that reasonableness — even ice cold sociopathic reasonableness — would have set in by now, with Ukrainian Genocide baked fully into the cake, but that’s just not what I’m seeing. That said, I’m also in an infobubble.

How about this: Who on the Western side might be the factions who understand the situation as you do, and have a strong incentive to prevent Russia vs. NATO? Anyone?

Karl says:

Orban and Fico seem to understand it. Maybe some people in other EU governments also understand it as 7 governments recently objected to stealing frozen Russian assets.

Of course, many people out of power also understand it.

Karl says:

“It will no longer matter if Europe is ready or not, it will not matter if they have the tech, the ammo, the logistics, they will have no choice but to instantly flood western Ukraine with French, Spanish, German and other divisions.”

Logistics is what enables the movement of divisions from Germany or France to Ukraine. If Europe does not have the logistics, Europe cannot move divisions to Ukraine. Apparenty, you use the word “logistics” differently.

Does the EU or UK have divisions and the ability to move them to Ukraine? Germany does have divisions, but to the best of knowledge not the ability to move them with their euquipment to Ukraine. Maybe they could just round up the soldiers and deploy them with what they can carry on their backs to Ukraine. Maybe, but compliance would be very low. These divisions could not be deployed without coercion. The apparatus for coercion is not yet there.

I’m not saying there would not be enough soldiers who would go willingly to Ukraine for several divisions, but those soldiers are intermingled in units with other soldiers how would not go without threat of being shot for disobedience (and would then try to desert and/or mutiney). So the German army (and I think France or Spain would not be much different) would have to create new units filled with volunteers from other units. That takes time. At present, Germany could deploy a few battalions at most and with very little equipment at best.

S says:

Logistics allows you to sustain fighting. If you are sending men to soak up shells then the inability to supply them doesn’t matter.

dave says:

Having done a bit of a rabbit hole deep dive on the subject. I dont think there are any divisions to send. Back in the early 2000s, the UK could barely cover Basra, a small city in southern Iraq. UK situation is worse now. Germany has no divisions. France probably still has the foreign legion which might be serviceable because only part French and mostly mercs. Spain? I doubt they have any divisions.

It will be down to the Poles and thats about it.

Jim says:

> they will have no choice but to instantly flood western Ukraine with French, Spanish, German and other divisions. And once this happens, total war is one mishap away.

No, that is the big mistake. If they flood western Ukraine with European divisions, then the way Russia and Russians see it, World War three is not one mishap away, World War three has begun.

The Cominator says:

4chan’s christmas miracle is over, they dumbed down the captcha and now poos can post again.

Cloudswrest says:

A sad example of the results of normalcy bias. I just learned about the Chios massacre in 1822 of well to do Greeks on the Island of Chios by the Turks.

https://x.com/i/grok/share/JvLeDkSk4lwTZ2OetIr5ReJbB

Cloudswrest says:
S says:

You hadn’t heard of the Armenian genocide?

Cloudswrest says:

This was Greeks, and ~100 years earlier.

S says:

I know. I’m saying they acted that way in the 20th century so there shouldn’t be a surprise the Ottoman Empire acted that way in the 19th.

Beow says:

There were many such atrocities of the Ottomans against Christians. And Britain and France kept Russia from helping them very much so they wouldn’t gain influence in the region. Even going so far as war eg Crjmea.
I recently read an American travel book in the Balkans from that era. He really hammered the issue hard and beat the drum for war against the Turk. I wonder if this was the typical feeling in America and if the western euro countries did the opposite and downplayed it.
Anyways yes just a reminder what life under moselman rule was like and that we definitely don’t want to get too cozy with them.

Jim says:

The religious reasons for war in the Ukraine are the same religious issues as the Crimean war. Same causes, same area. Except back then the fact that Britain and France were Christian kept it from getting out hand.

This time around, they are postChristian, so the war is likely to escalate.

The Crimean war was fought because France and Britain feared that the decline of the Ottoman empire would bring the Patriarchate of Constantinople under the thumb of Russian Orthodoxy. That if Christians in the Ottoman empire enjoyed the protection of the Tsar, then this would project the influence of the Russian patriarchate, and thus the Russian Tsar, into all Orthodox lands.

Now we have schism between the postChristian Constantinople patriarchate, which Russians now call the Istanbul patriarchate, and Russian Orthodoxy. The Westphalian settlement, that each Christian land gets its own national Church, has been abandoned, so the sixteenth and seventeenth century wars of religion are likely to resume. Indeed, have resumed, starting in the Ukraine, with Russia demanding freedom for the UOC-MC in the Ukraine, as it formerly demanded freedom for Christians in the Ottoman Empire. Christianity is now being coercively suppressed in Europe, as marriage has been suppressed, so this war lacks the inherent brakes that the Crimean war had.

Jim says:

And with Trump bombing Nigeria, to protect the major diocese of GAFCON, we now have Sovereigns getting into holy war in both the Ukraine and Nigeria.

Epimetheus says:

It’s possible, even probable, that the Russian casualties are not comparable to those of the Ukrainians. The bulk of killing and wounding in modern industrial warfare has occurred because of artillery since WW1, and Russia has enjoyed artillery overmatch since they first rolled in, and now they have supplemented that with their ubiquitous gigantic glide bombs and drone overmatch.

We get these pathos-ridden pseudo-profundities across the West about the Russian willingness to accept mass casualties in meat assaults, their subservience to Putin’s personal authority, the cheapness of human life in Russia etc. etc – whereas a simple alternate explanation is that all the Russian casualty estimates bandied about in the West came originally from the Ukrainians, who are lying through their teeth.

The observed behavior of the Kremlin and Russia implies that they are suffering low casualties relative to those they inflict – which is why Ukraine has to throw old men and retards in vans while Russian farmboys flock to the recruiting stations of their own accord, and also why the observed behavior of the Pentagon and Washington implies that Russians are disproportionately deadly on the battlefield and in the air.

Randall says:

Bishop Athanasius Schneider shall be raised for Pope!
https://x.com/RadioGenoa/status/2004822769645801565

Jim says:

Athanasius Schneider is not going to be raised to pope until the faggots in the Vatican are thrown from high buildings.

Pax Imperialis says:

Reading between the lines, is that not what the Bishop implies will happen?

The Cominator says:

Yarvin had one of his good writings lately and he summed up the problem with the American right very well… its nothing we sort of haven’t heard before but it wasn’t simplified and distilled quite this way yet.

The American right is doomed to lose until it really decides it has no regard for Democracy or the Constitution because any serious political movement has to have as its objective the seizure of power and in fact absolute power for itself. Its ideology imposed, its leaders becoming the leaders of the state, its truth as the official truth, its opposition banned.

Any other sort of political movement is either a protest movement or a grift. American “conservatism” has started multiple times as a protest movement quickly evolving into a grift. The right before the 2000s used to be able to achieve some things as a protest movement because the left had some reasonable and intelligent people who actually wanted an excuse to course correct back in the day… but this is no longer the case. They are ideologically committed to white genocide, pervert primacy, holy war on Russia etc.

Jim says:

Yes. the Republic dies. We don’t want to take the blame for its death. But, on the gripping hand, we do not want to die with either.

The Biden regime came to power through great and grave crimes, and pretty much everyone on the left is guilty of a pile of stuff. Why have there been no prosecutions for covid etcetera?

If we do not imprison the left, they will surely imprison us.

A2 says:

The French have had an official Second Republic, also Third, Fourth and currently a Fifth. The US also has arguably had a series of republics (e.g., FDR compared to what came before), though only unofficially. So why not an official new one?

S says:

Because republics are defined by not having a monarch and having power and state religion be explicit is a clean break with the past.

A2 says:

Augustus still kept a senate, if memory serves.

S says:

Augustus was ‘first citizen’ and ‘father of the country’, not a king. The Imperator wasn’t officially called dominus (lord) until Diocletian.

I know it sounds like a colossal nitpick, but the final boss is the women question- you could Thanos snap away problem people and civilization still falls and humanity dies on Earth if you don’t solve it. The ruler needs to be more then a dictator or first citizens of the people or some other larp- they need to speak with the authority of Almighty God justifying their rule. I’m not aware of anything else working long term (Augustus took apparently successful short term measures but long term the Romans were ethnically replaced because they failed to reproduce).

Jim says:

> they need to speak with the authority of Almighty God justifying their rule.

With anything less, solving the woman problem is likely to be difficult.

The Cominator says:

We can blame the left for pushing things to the point but for the right to win it needs to get serious which means it needs to get very open about its intentions to establish some kind of right wing dictatorship where the left is outlawed.

The left insane as it is wants power, you can’t beat a movement that wants power with a grift. You can’t use a protest movement to reform a movement that wants power unless its open to reform at some level (which the FDR left pre LBJ left was because fundamentally they had good intentions and while they knew they really were the intellectual elite they were conscious that in vast adminisrative apparatuses mistakes were made) so the right can only counter the left now as a serious power seeking movement. Serious means we admit things aren’t working and run explicitly on installing a strongman, ending the republic and banning the left.

The Cominator says:

And the Somali daycare money provides the perfect sales pitch because since the Big Dig era at least virtually all American government spending has been Somali daycare money except debt payments and old people entitlements (which at least goes to where they say its going). Not that its all stolen by Somalis who kickup to Dems but its all stolen by various groups who kickup to Dems. Only a strongman can keep all of America’s money from being stolen by the kleptocratic American government.

alf says:

Why have there been no prosecutions for covid etcetera?

This is the biggest red flag for me that Trump will not do what is needed. Why are the covid murders still being memory-holed? Why isn’t trantifa being prosecuted in the wake of the murder Charlie Kirk? Why isn’t Trump blasting us daily on how Thomas Crooks was clearly a coordinated assassination effort against him? Who was Crooks working for or with? Why isn’t this the number one priority?

All we get is a meme of Obama being arrested. That’s like 1% of where we need to be Don.

The Cominator says:

One reason I was pro DeSantis in the primary is I thought Trump was compromised on covid by the fact he agreed to at least the initial lockdowns and seemingly too embarassed by this to come out and say covid was a massive fraud. In reality extrajudicially killing Fauci would be a great way for Trump to establish the precedent that he can extrajudicially kill people since everyone wants Fauci to be extrajudicially killed.

Contaminated NEET says:

Trump was never embarrassed by his handling of COVID; he was proud. He was embarrassed that his stupid low-class voters were too uneducated to understand what a great thing he’d accomplished with the vax. He only stopped bragging about it after getting booed a few times by his own crowds.

jaggard says:

To add insult to injury

“10 Oct 2025 … Trump, 79, received the flu shot and a Covid vaccine booster “in preparation for upcoming international travel.” “

The Cominator says:

https://united24media.com/latest-news/facing-record-low-birth-rates-putin-says-teen-marriage-is-the-answer-14442
Either it’s happening or he won’t go through with it and nothing ever happens.

Adam says:

“He cited Chechnya’s leader Ramzan Kadyrov and his large family, arguing that Russians should prioritize starting families earlier rather than delaying childbirth for education, career, or financial stability.”

This is good to read. Kadyrov is endlessly smeared for human rights violations and does not seem incompatible with Jimian Christianity. At least on the woman problem.

Randall says:

Variously [un]based convos have been allowed to trend rather recently, and the podcast channel count is exploding…

https://x.com/censoreddottv/status/2000555189430829095
Are young white men obligated to marry a ran through white woman?

yewotm8 says:

You can spank a White woman until she behaves. You can’t do anything to make a brown woman give you children that resemble you.

Randall says:
Randall says:

@GBNT1952
The Halal Right wants you to worry about 0.2% of the world’s population that has never conquered another nation and forget about the 26% of the population that proliferates an expansionist, murderous death cult that has conquered more nations than the Roman Empire. Also, about 30 of those conquered nations were once Christian… but yeah, nothing to worry about with them, guys.

You’ve got a Straight White Male at least nominally-Christian and Minimist-Govt Free-Liberty country to take back.

ews says:

> The Halal Right wants you to worry about 0.2% of the world’s population that has never conquered another nation and forget about the 26% of the population that proliferates an expansionist, murderous death cult

If I cannot buy Christian wrapping paper for Christmas, have not we been conquered?

If the story of Easter cannot be told at Easter services, have not we been conquered?

How come if someone calls for cutting aid to Jordan and Egypt, he does not get called a Jordanophobe, the FBI does not investigate him for terrorism, and no one tries to cancel, demonetise, and deplatform him?

How come if someone criticises Roman Catholicism or the Vatican, he does not get called an anticatholic, the FBI does not investigate him for terrorism, and no one tries to cancel, demonetise, and deplatform him?

How come kids get taught Holocaustianity, but are not taught Christianity?

How come Cyrus gets credit for allowing Jews to return from the first exile, but Americans get no credit for rescuing them from concentration camps and enabling the creation of Israel?

What has “our greatest ally” ever done for us?

Randall says:

Racism = Survival, they are un-separable and co-necessary
https://x.com/Broderline89/status/1993225682109747464
Live and Do in a way that recognizes and supports that most basic fact of hardcoded Nature and lived History, or die.

Randall says:

https://x.com/Cernovich/status/2005442108971520283
My whole life (almost 50), we were told we had to send unlimited food to Africa. All it did was create more of them. Who we now have to keep feeding. And then we had to take them in. So they can scam us. I’m tired of it all. I won’t even pretend to care anymore. I don’t.

Note: 100k of Western X users now refusing to pay taxes… growing movement.

Randall says:

https://x.com/Cernovich/status/2006154643634561096

“Why do they keep calling themselves “Somali” / “Muslim”? I thought @VivekGRamaswamy said they were Americans.


Just to be clear the Somali says Nick, who is white, is not allowed in this Somali’s neighborhood in the United States. Guess the Somali thinks it’s theirs now.

Yes, time to change the Constitution… No Islam, No Jewfluence, No Leftist Politicians, No Women’s Suffrage, No Immigration except White-types compatible with Christian-types, No “Communities” of Enclaved Foreigners all non-Integrators and non-GoodWill out, President may cancel Citizenships of Foreign Borns with or without reason, English is the Official Language, all Citizens must be able to read either the Constitution or Bible, and so on.

Duke says:

Full Somali/Islam Fraud video
https://x.com/NickShirleyy/status/2004642794862961123

Wait until they start investigating the Convenience Stores and the Car Dealerships and the “Charities” and the Mosques… massive criminal money flows, all into the coffers of Islam and their Left Politicians.

The Cominator says:

All these ethnic frauds are downstream of the democratic party/NGO/leftist church complex. Its obvious when you think about it, Somalis couldn’t do this on their own and even if they could white collar crime at a certain scale requires people in government looking the other way. And basically nearly all government spending now is like Minnesota daycare subsidies…

Mayflower Sperg says:

In one fell swoop, Trump could crush his enemies, save the dollar, end inflation, balance the budget, and make food and housing affordable for working families. All he has to do is zero-fund everything except ICE. Tell every employee of the US Treasury that if they spend one dime without the President’s approval, even if ordered to do so by a liberal judge, both hands will be chopped off so they can never use a keyboard again.

Contaminated NEET says:

But that would make Baby Jesus and the Ghost of MLK cry. The purpose of America is to take money from productive, law abiding, White men and give it to brown and Black semi-humans so they can have 8 kids. Trump believes in this holy mission; he just has a few quibbles around the edges. There is nothing on Earth that warms a boomer’s heart more than hearing a Black person say positive things about him.

Duke says:

Seen on recent Protest Signs: “You can build a Mosque in Texas and GroundZero, when we can build a Church and Synagogue in Mecca !!!”

Though 50-50 is “fair”, all that poor mentality does is further dilute you into assured self-destruction.
The real solution is zero (0).
Learn the lesson-evident, and cancel citizenship (both foreign and native born), and ship them all back out.
Before it’s too late.

Left Politicians need removed from office one way or another, because they are the ones who imported and weaponized them against you, and who defend them today.

Randall says:

61 Million Muslims Negroes Spics Pakis Afghans Indians and random other wastes into NorthAmerica in 2024, only 34M over the entire 24 years prior.
All Democrats (and half the Republicans) need hung for Treason of destroying the USA.

https://www.un.org/development/desa/pd/sites/www.un.org.development.desa.pd/files/undesa_pd_2025_intlmigstock_2024_key_facts_and_figures_advance-unedited.pdf

Contaminated NEET says:

Here’s to a reactionary 2026, everyone! We will drown, and nobody shall save us, but hopefully not this year.

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