Gold, crypto currency, and hyperinflation

The fed is printing a pile of money, and what is happening to that money is as obscured and obfuscated as the claims about inflation.

We have for some time been seeing shortages of critical products, typically special products with sticky prices. A contractor cannot get his final payment for lack of a three hundred dollar part, and goes bankrupt. These shortages are increasing and we are now starting to see shortages of basic products, the most basic of them all being labor itself, and very high inflation in products that do not have sticky prices, such as lumber. This prefigures a lot of inflation already baked into the cake, which inflation will greatly exceed inflationary expectations, which are low due to normality bias. There has been quite a lot of inflation lately, considerably exceeding inflationary expectations. The shortages and the inability to maintain monetary discipline which underlies those shortages prefigure a great deal more inflation, exceeding inflationary expectations even further.

Hat tip Pseudo-Chrysostom for the image.

The official inflation numbers have long been detached from reality. They have now, rather suddenly, become rather more seriously detached. They are about to rapidly become a great deal more detached.

The underlying cause is collapse of cohesion and discipline among the elite. They are just unable to stop all sorts of people helping themselves to the printing press, which lack of control and discipline prefigures hyper inflation – not tomorrow, not probably next month, probably not next year or the year after, but not far off.

Hyperinflation does not happen all at once. It starts with wave of startlingly bad inflation, then a wave of relative stability, and people think normality has returned. But it has not. There is another wave, and another, each with more inflation than the last, each with more rapid inflation than the last, and the waves coming closer and closer together, finally blending into one continuous wave until no one knows what prices should be, and the money just stops being useful.

Asset prices are inflating, as people with access to easy money buy real assets, but in the final stages of inflation, asset prices no longer keep up with inflation, because the money ceases to be useful as a measure of value, and assets are illiquid. Someone has a trillion dollars, is not sure whether he should invest in a house with it buy or a hamburger. He is hungry, so he buys the hamburger.

Gold and crypto is hedge against hyperfinflation. Anyone who buys bitcoin intending to sell it for fiat money is a fool,, because investing with the intent of selling presupposes that it is a bubble. Outsiders cannot profit from a bubble. You cannot get out of a bubble sooner than everyone else, because by the time you know it is time to get out, everyone also knows it. (Unless of course the government is the buyer of last resort, or is funding wetbacks with no id, no income, no job, and no assets to take out million dollar mortgages, as in the great Minority Mortgage Meltdown) The primary argument for bitcoin is that fiat is a bubble, hence the hodl strategy. Pay no attention to the latest news, because you know the final destination. Dips are a buying opportunity, assuming the hodler noticed the dip, which he probably did not.

When one does book keeping and accounting, one wants the entries in the assets and liabilities column to be as directly as possible connected to real things that have real value. In contrast, the fed balance sheet is unreadable, and its flows incomprehensible – this has gone beyond normal government incompetence and looks more and more like three card monte. The budget and the debt limit and all that have become as meaningless and irrelevant as the Queen travelling in a stage coach to open the British Parliament.

Silver, these days, is an industrial metal. In the long depression, it was spontaneously demonetized, because people used banks and banknotes for small transactions, and it has been steadily demonetizing further and further. In a hyperfinflation, it might remonetize for transactions of moderate size, but I don’t think so. Crypto currency renders it irrelevant.

The real value of silver relative to other resources, like oil and iron, is likely to remain approximately stable, but as people see what is coming, the real value of crypto and gold, relative to resources and goods, is rising, with crypto rising far faster than gold. If, as I think likely, crypto currency results in the demonetization of gold, gold is going to fall in real value relative to resources and goods a very long way, while silver will remain relatively stable. Stability sounds good, but you will not be able to buy food, guns, and ammo with it.

1,893 comments Gold, crypto currency, and hyperinflation

Tityrus says:

Looks like James Bond is a cuck now.

> LONDON — There’s a scene in the new James Bond film, No Time to Die, in which 007 takes a young woman back to his bungalow in Jamaica, thinking that — as in the past — he will effortlessly seduce her. Instead, she removes her wig, and Bond, who’s been retired from MI6 for five years, realizes she’s a British agent.

> “The world’s moved on, Commander Bond,” says the agent, Nomi, played by Lashana Lynch, who also starred in Captain Marvel.

https://www.npr.org/2021/10/09/1044711550/james-bond-economy-no-time-to-die

Fëanor says:

Well, at least he didn’t actually fuck the negress.

/s

Aidan says:

Sorry man, but WB. We Scotsmen have to be extra horny, considering what our women look like.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Robert_Dunn

Fëanor says:

Alternatively, your willingness to fuck anything that moves is why your women look like that, just as the similar willingness of negroes is why their women look like that.

If you want hot women, gotta impose at least a little bit of sexual selection.

Aidan says:

I’m basically shitposting at this point but big butch wives = big manly sons.

Don’t let what happened to Korea happen to your race…

Leon says:

False. The healthiest children are produced from high estrogen healthy women and high tesosterone healthy men.

Varna says:

The new Superman just admitted he’s a blowjob queen.
https://wgntv.com/news/trending/new-superman-comes-out-as-bisexual-on-national-coming-out-day/
When the roles are reversed and he comes into a tranny’s mouth, does the tranny’s head blow up?

Wulfgar Thundercock III says:

Queer of Steel, Twink of Tissue Paper.

Varna says:

Throne of Cock-Ring world.

Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

There’s a kind of morbid fascination that comes from trying to get in the heads of these people who, on a semi-conscious level, are basically trying to kill the very mythos they are working with.

Varna says:

They are trying to kill every institution they infiltrate, while at the same time to use its dying body to spread their virus.

To them the value of James Bond or Superman or Star Wars or Ghostbusters is not the inherent essence of the fictitious world and the joy it brings, but rather how much political value they can wring from it before throwing away the husk.

They are the opposite of “sustainable development”. Every social or political or media institution they come in contact with they suck dry and then move on. Behind them is always a wasteland.

They can’t into creation of new things, only into feeding off preexisting things and then moving on to the next one like civilizational locusts. It doesn’t matter what they claim they do and why, what matters is results.

The results are as if they are servants of the father of lies and destroyers of life, on every single level of any single part of the human existence.

Yul Bornhold says:

It’s sympathetic magic. The theory is that “representation,” which is to say depiction, of minorities in positions of talent and success will cause real life minorities to occupy positions of talent and success.

Originally, the minorities occupied peripheral roles. Hence all the hotshot negro scientists in film, dating back to at least Jurassic Park but probably all the way to the 70s. That’s a long time but these depictions failed to produce actual black talent in the real world, so the Cathedral revised its theory to the idea that the *main characters* must be minorities in order for the magic to take effect. They seem also to have developed a theory of conservation of memespace, which is to say non-diverse media necessarily takes up limited memespace which could be occupied by diverse media.

Thus, the push starting in the last decade and now accelerate to diversify all legacy media. Don’t know what they’ll do when this magic fails but it will surely be ugly, stupid and violent.

jim says:

Just as it is accurate to model a well functioning corporation as single person pursuing its rational long term self interest, even though it is a very large group of people attempting to cooperate to pursue their collective rational long term self interest, a difficult thing to accomplish, it is accurate to model these people as possessed by a cacophony of demons.

Varna says:

They are Legion.

someDude says:

Hahahahahahahahaha

Varna says:

Current map of vax mandate in Russia by federal state.
https://imgpile.com/images/UCXjEu.jpg

Green–QR codes in action
Yellow–coming soon
Red–deliberating

In Tatary yesterday “international games for biothreat containment” have commenced, with WHO participation.
https://vashgorod.ru/news/1310558
Fema swat stuff basically.

Tatary is also one of the places in green on the map where the QR codes just kicked in. Only on a smartphone, apparently. Printed out doesn’t count.
https://www.evening-kazan.ru/articles/durdom-tak-i-zapishite-kak-v-kazani-proshel-pervyy-den-zhestkih-koronavirusnyh-ogranicheniy.html

Gauntlet says:

Lots of people without smartphones in these areas. This thing has a certain feel of biblical prophecy in it. Question is, how long can it last before in is abandoned or implodes, not just in Russia but also in the rest of the world?

At some point the economic cost will be too much and the black market will take over most trade. I mean, soon there won’t be any incentive to participate in “legal” society, that’s when the parallel institutions become indispensable.

With the lack of capable enforcement in the west, it wouldn’t take much mafia-styled resistance/protection of businesses in order to scare off the enforcers. Could be a future business idea for the right person. But that would only work locally and regionally, world trade would be impaired.

Varna says:

Lithuania, Latvia, and Slovenia have also gone full globohomo in terms of the vax mandate.

Usually when people discuss EE, they point out that the “progressive almost western ones” are
– the three Baltic republics (Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia)
– the two western Balkan ones (Slovenia, Croatia)
– The Czech republic

We can now watch in real time the extent to which this is true or not.
Lithuania, Latvia, and Slovenia are already full globohomo in the vax mandate sense.
Estonia is planning it https://sputnik-meedia.ee/Estonian_news/20211012/1030262/estonia-uzhestochit-ogranicheniya-nevaktsinirovannyi-zhitel.html

The Czechs on the other hand, appear to be shielded by a forcefield of Visegrad don’t give a fuckery.

A week back the prez of Croatia said that vaccination is not going to be pushed at everyone, and that 50% of the population is enough and society needs to learn to live with covid. https://www.nakanune.ru/news/2021/09/28/22622517/

Thus, we can see that the three Baltic states and Slovenia are the “lost” territories of EE as of today.

Gauntlet says:

Excellent points about EE and the Baltics. The globohomo is severe in Norway, but the Corona and vaxx stuff is actually very lax right now. Almost all domestic restrictions are gone and I haven’t heard a thing about vaxx passes or forced injections. The problem is that 85-90% of the entire population is vaxxed by now.

The only way for me to find an unvaxxed wife here is to find a 16 year old. Which would be legal, but very hard. Well, the sex would be legal, babies yes, but not actual marriage until age 18.

Karl says:

Real marriage is illegal anyway. I’m somewhat surprised they didn’t push the vaxx on 16 year olds as well

Fëanor says:

Real marriage is illegal, but it is at least not illegal to have an 18 year old living with you, which is fairly essential to even imitation marriage. I don’t think get away with “marrying” a 16 year old, even in eastern Europe, though it might be easier than it is here.

Karl says:

Economic costs never stopped a holiness spiral. It might be stopped by too many people dying of the clot shot, but only because those pushing the clot shot usually also receive it.

Don’t think there is a chance for businesses to organise in a way that would scare of enforcers. Businesses defend against stiffling government regulations by forgery and bribery, not by killing government’s enforcers.

Pooch says:

I have doubts that the people at the top are even taking the shot. The Pfizer CEO already admitted it’s not necessary for him to take it.

Karl says:

Those involved in the development of the clot shot probably know better than to take it, but those guys are not at the very top. People who develop or manufacture the clot shot are engineers or scientists. Even the CEO is not at the top, but rather taking orders from the high priests.

Maybe the high priests are not taking the clot shot, but most of the priests do.

Pooch says:

You are likely right. The priests are taking it. The vaccine merchants taking advantage of the money windfall are surely also pushing it just as enthusiastically as the priests, but are smart enough to not actually take it themselves.

The political elite (the Bidens, Pelosis, McConnells, etc) may also be smart enough to not actually take it either. They clearly don’t actually believe in the mask worshipping that much. As soon as the tv cameras are off, their masks are no where to be seen.

Gauntlet says:

I agree that a holiness spiral won’t be stopped by economics. What I struggle to understand is how the Nordic countries are not keeping up with the vaxx/Corona demon. They declared it to not be a big problem anymore.

In Norway there was recently an election. The outgoing coalition ended the restrictions before the incoming coalition formed a government. The only logical thing is they they ended it to hurt the incoming “red” “socialist” coalition. It will be interesting to see what the new government will do when we get the winter peak in flu cases.

Note: All parties in Norway are socialist. They argue over a 2% spending difference in the national budget every year. So they are all the same with small variations.

Gauntlet says:

Sorry, I was supposed to reply to Karl.

Oog en Hand says:

Simple. Antifax defeated Coronas.

Enforcing lockdown on migrant populations wasn’t feasible.

Gauntlet says:

The immigrant population in Norway is nowhere near Swedish levels. It is still extremely bad, but not as out of control as Sweden. Denmark has started deporting second generation immigrants back to their parents home countries if they are convicted of crimes.

I do agree that the immigrant situation in Sweden is the reason they didn’t lock down. But it doesn’t explain Norway’s sudden shift nor the official acknowledgment that Moderna is bad (suspended for males 30 years or younger).

Oog en Hand says:

In Norway, the absolute numbers of non-immigrants are far lower. Also, during the Cold War, Sweden had to run its own army.

Gauntlet says:

That is true, only 5.3 million or so if memory serves me, total population. Largest immigrant groups are Swedish and second largest is Polish.

The people have picked up that something is wrong with the vaxx and are trying to reassure themselves by saying “surely the government wouldn’t give us something bad”. They cannot or do not dare to acknowledge what they feel or articulate it.

Norway has not had an effective military since the union with Denmark haha. Half the population were sure the nazis would win, until about 1943.

Karl says:

Corona regulations have been chaotic from the start. Huge difference form one country to another. Sometimes the regulations are made a little bit less harsh, before they are tightened.

I guess the Nordic countries are just lagging a bit behind the general trend.

Aidan says:

Posting this up here because it turned into a good and illuminating comment as I was writing.

@Feanor
“The standard evopsych line, that… women are inclined to save themselves for the best man they can find, in reality belies a lot of variance in actual female behavior.”

The girl chastely awaiting gigachad is an alpha widow- she’s been with someone approximating gigachad, often by blind luck on her part, and normal men have become uninteresting to her. They often call themselves lesbians- there are no real lesbians.

Hypergamy is a ratchet. When you see a girl going home with a different guy every week, that is the ratchet clicking away at shocking speed, but that phase doesn’t last long. It ends up that the vast majority of men become uninteresting to her, so her “partying phase” is over, and she chastely awaits a booty call from gigachad that is unlikely to come.

Variance in female behavior is mostly because you are looking at different stages on the ratchet, snapshots of a girl’s sexual career where you can’t be sure what her past is, how far along she is. The endpoint of a long period of chastity and settling shortly before she hits the wall, as her body is screaming at her to reproduce, is determinate. But whether the ratchet clicks to the end for ten years through a series of long relationships, or clicks in ten weeks after she hit college as a freshman, or clicks in ten minutes as a rockstar hastily deflowers her backstage when she is 14, depends on circumstances.

Dealing with women can be mystifying, frustating, and leave you feeling insecure, because sometimes a five will give you the cold shoulder, and later that same night an eight will gleefully submit to mating, but that is because the five has banged a man more alpha than you and the eight has not. Once the red pill has been totally internalized, you get a state of zen where the apparent contradictions in female behavior cease to bother you, rejection ceases to hurt you, and success ceases to puff you up with pride.

There are actual aberrants in female behavior, but they fall into two categories, at two extreme ends of the bell curve.

One are women born with abnormally low sex drives, to the point that they do not even have an urge to masturbate. All the software for getting themselves banged and impregnated runs properly- shit testing, following a man to a place alone, and so on- but the script that makes them enjoy being banged fails to run, and actual penetration is as traumatic to them, I imagine, as a straight man getting raped by a fag would be. I feel like the internet amplifies the voices of what is a tiny minority of women; when you see some cunty feminist bitching that all sex is rape, or talking about how girls hate sex, it is probably this.

The second is “actual nymphomaniacs”, but I think this has less to do with sex drive and more to do with hypergamy malfunctioning. Nymphos don’t fuck any better than normal girls who consider you alpha- it’s just that their fucking alpha males doesn’t disqualify lesser men from banging them. And again, it is a tiny minority of women whose party phase lasts for most of their lives, and their voices get amplified on the internet to the point that one can believe it is more common than it actually is.

For 98% of women, the hypergamy ratchet goes like this:

Virgin- depending on how alpha her father is, she will be interested in 10-50% of men. Regardless of how alpha her father is, she will have lower standards in general than a girl who’s been exercising her hypergamy. If her father is absent or very weak, she is liable to start getting banged very young.

First partner- If he owns her properly, she will overestimate how alpha he is, and it will take a lot for her to go to another man. If he owns her improperly, or pumps and dumps her, she goes looking for more alpha men.

The ratchet- The starting point, her initial standard of alpha, is determined by how alpha her first partner was, and the speed at which she sleeps with progressively more alpha men can vary greatly, whether a series of LTRs or a whirlwind of slutty partying. Eventually, she sleeps with a man of a quality she’s very unlikely to get again.

Alpha widow- A girl can even jump right to this phase from virgin if she finds herself pumped and dumped by gigachad. This is where girls chastely await a booty call that will never come, and most men are completely unexciting for them.

The wall, and settling- We all know about this. Women who stay relatively attractive through their alpha widow phase manage to settle down with an herb and maybe pump out a kid or two, Jim’s “truck stop hooker” who manages to get married and have kids. Women who let themselves go to shit cannot even manage that and become catladies.

restitutor_orbis says:

Epic. That’s one of the best one-page summaries of female psyche I’ve ever read.

Question: Do you think what defines “alpha” for a woman in terms of its trappings is related to her relationship with her father? E.g. if Dad is a gun-owning construction worker vs Dad is a NY litigator, will the trappings of masculinity the girl is attracted to be different, and what seems “bad boy” different? Or is it all driven by paleolithic biology without much cultural influence?

Pooch says:

Do you think what defines “alpha” for a woman in terms of its trappings is related to her relationship with her father?

A woman is attracted to a man as least as alpha and masculine as her father to start out with.

A woman with a strong masculine father is likely to not have a high n-count because not many men are going to qualify. A woman with a weak, feminine, or non-existent father is likely to be a whore, because every man is going to qualify.

Aidan says:

Yes and no. Women have conscious preferences that dictate who they hang around with and spend time with, so most of the time end up sleeping with men of the same tribe, subculture, whatever. When it comes down to being alone with them, their conscious preferences of masculinity and their tribal identification don’t matter very much.

In other words, when it comes to meeting girls, helps if you are in the same tribe. When it comes to getting her back to your place, doesn’t matter much. I am an eccentric individual who doesn’t fit in to any subculture or is recognizable as a “type” and I’ve made it work. But if you’re using a dating site or something, more helpful to signal adherence to a tribe, just for the sake of initial interest.

Pooch says:

I have to disagree here somewhat. A woman’s subconscious detection to alpha and masculinity is going to be what she has been exposed to.

For example, a country girl is likely to get wet for country boys who hunt with big mud-splattered pick up trucks and be completely unimpressed by high-powered suit-wearing CEO types because that is what she knows high status masculine males to do.

Fëanor says:

What Aidan is saying is most true if you go around surrounded by men of your own tribe who recognize you as the alpha. If a country girl is for some reason at a business conference, she is going to want to fuck the CEO. If a CEO walks into a country bar, alone, then no, he’s probably not going to get very far.

Pooch says:

That’s exactly right. There is universal male behavior that all women instinctually pick up as alpha (everyone in the tribe taking orders from one man or everyone in the room looking at the man on stage).

Sans the obvious indicators, they go off what they have been exposed to. The CEO walking into the country bar alone, for instance, is unlikely to get very far, where as the CEO walking into city bar alone is likely to get eyed by the women who know what CEOs tend to look like.

Aidan says:

Yup. As long as the truck-drivin’, buck-shootin’ country boy is high status in her environment, the CEO in the country bar isn’t going to get very far. But put the same woman in a club in NYC, and the soft suit boy she’d talk disparagingly about back home seems strangely irresistible.

It makes a difference in practice, that it is easier to fuck emo girls if you are an emo boy, and easier to fuck country girls if you are a country boy, easier to fuck sorority girls if you are a frat boy, but the underlying status mechanics are much more powerful. Women like being stolen by men of other tribes.

Varna says:

Five women I had to meet up awhile back after realizing they’ve been alpha widows for a decade, and present myself as a silly chap who’s not really as awesome as some might have thought in the past.

I’m pretty sure this released three of them back into the market, the fourth I think became an embittered lesbian, and the fifth became a bisexual poly mumbo jumbo something something.

No one told me all the truth pills in the above post, so had to figure out stuff by myself. And late in the game at that.

A sixth one I set up with another guy and it was a good match, they’re still a couple.

Two more went looking for owners and found generic BDSM masters and then married them to themselves and then quickly outgrew them and divorced them. Another did the same but it was some astral magic BDSM guy, and after the divorce I think she dabbles in witchery as well. Two of the three gave their temporary owners sons but then raised them alone.

Then there’s another blurry pile from earlier in my youth whom I do not remember very well. One at least emigrated. One went through a cock carousel for a couple of years and is now a trad wife with two kids. One became an air hostess and is now also a wife and mom. One is a UN functionary in Brussels and I think still has a master. One went to London to become a webcam model with her new boyfriend/pimp and I don’t know what happened then.

In hindsight, I was surfing a wave with a complete disregard for anything except immediate pleasure, perfectly sure everybody else was also a rational adult only looking for fleeting pleasure. This was not correct, but I think the obvious disregard for anything else which this misconception propped up was a major part of what made them constantly jump into my lap.

Now I’m a trad husband fuddy daddy and… and glad I don’t have daughters, cough.

Fëanor says:

Well said.

However, a man is always more alpha to a woman when he’s right in front of her, than when he’s far away, or on the other end of her phone, and most of the variance I’m talking about is probably variance in how large this effect is for her. The so-called nymphomaniac is a very extreme example, but there are a thousand steps on the way.

To put it another way, “alpha” is situational enough that the ratchet is sometimes not all that racheting. Some women have been banged by men who outrank all others even as distant memories, but these are the outliers.

I have been with women who had almost certainly been with men who would outrank me in any social situation that would put us in the same room, and while I would like to believe that this perception is just me underestimating myself, I imagine I would have found them easier to lock down in that case. And on the other hand I have been with women who had boyfriends I certainly did outrank in their minds, and found them no less difficult to steal away long-term.

(Possibly it is my desire for a long-term relationship itself which is actually wrecking my perceived status, though I try not to be too obvious about it. And possibly I would not even want one all that much if I had continuous access to new women, but I do not.)

Aidan says:

It happens that women sleep down- you can be alpha enough in a girl’s face to outrank an even more alpha man who is a memory. But when she wakes up the next morning, she will compare the memory of you to the memory of her most alpha, and will likely fail to return your texts. She might even be lukewarm on you in comparison to a distant memory of alpha, but it is unlikely that you can keep her on the hook.

In the movie Titanic, what Rose remembers on her deathbed isn’t her husband and family, it is the starving artist who banged her on a boat for three days fifty years ago.

I can tell a girl on a first date that I want a relationship in general, with the unspoken underlying frame that if she does not meet my standards, she will be nexted shortly after her body has begun to bore me, but if you have the frame that you want a relationship -with her-, that will come across as low status.

Pooch says:

It happens that women sleep down- you can be alpha enough in a girl’s face to outrank an even more alpha man who is a memory. But when she wakes up the next morning, she will compare the memory of you to the memory of her most alpha, and will likely fail to return your texts.

Happened to me more than I could count. Fucking the chicks was never the problem, it was holding on to the ones that I liked after I had fucked them that had eluded me in my early game days. Perhaps I messed up in my post-fuck behavior and text, did not focus on fucking them well enough, or perhaps I just never was going to get another go once their alpha-comparison subroutine ran.

I can tell a girl on a first date that I want a relationship in general, with the unspoken underlying frame that if she does not meet my standards, she will be nexted shortly after her body has begun to bore me, but if you have the frame that you want a relationship -with her-, that will come across as low status.

Yes this. “Sure, I’m looking for something long term with a special girl,” Always served me well if asked and makes it clear that I’m not just looking for a relationship with any girl, only a special girl.

yewotm8 says:

tfw, the post.

It’s odd how they never really seem to shit test much, to see if you’d qualify. They just disappear. From the section down below, I am left to assume that letting them leave your house in the first place is the failure.

Regarding post-sex texts, I always let them text me first, but maybe you’re not supposed to do that? It’s worked for me.

Pooch says:

Yes eventually I realized that I was not allowing them to text me first for the 2nd meet, not being sure that they cummed when we fucked (extra time allotted to foreplay), and generally just being too much of a simp the next morning (offering them breakfast, ride home, etc).

After rectifying those issues, the problem largely went away but I was likely also getting more alpha as well.

Pooch says:

(not enough time allotted to foreplay)*

Varna says:

Orgasm and gender roles rambling with coffee.

I think that in current year many if not most women know their orgasms inside out via women’s articles and toys that they’ve tried/kept and so on.

They are “orgasmically independent” in other words, and the orgasmic experience is increasingly separated from the sexual experience with another person.

Thus, IMO, “trying to make sure she orgasms” is rather a late 20th century approach that hasn’t adapted to the new reality in which the girl will almost always have a more massive masturbatory orgasm alone than that with a new guy she’s banging.

Girls today masturbate and watch porn the way boys did in the 1990s but in an environment that constantly encourages this and flogs them all sorts of toys and tells them how cool and subversive it is to go to school with buttplugs etc.

The point is therefore not to kill yourself trying to give her an orgasm that pales with something she does to herself after edging for half an evening. (At least before you get to know each other well enough to become more in tune to each other’s bodies)

The point is emotional catharsis and a feeling of belonging/ownership. The point is her being able to allow herself to switch off her mind and lose control. But what form shall that take?

Globohomo society is primitive in that it turns men into faggots and it turns women into faggots, no difference. Hence female fascination with reading about gay vampires and sheit. The “modern emancipated woman” has been assigned the traits of a male fag, and they try to act that out like “good citizens”.

So a guy today has two types of catharsis he can deliver to a current year woman: a) fuck her like she’s a tranny faggot, b) fuck her like a trad woman. Or do a bait and switch: start with a) then gradually make a shift into b)

Summary: sexual women these days are not looking for an orgasm from a new guy they’re banging–they’re looking for something else which they themselves probably can’t articulate. This something else is a combination of catharsis and belonging.

Today they are programmed by globohomo to exhibit the character traits of tranny fags, and many of them have integrated this programming. A guy who wants a crazy one night stand is going to have a lot of fun (before the stalking and false allegations of rape start). A guy who wants something more stable will need to be aware that part of his job is gradually uprooting globohomo’s implanted mind viruses, and teaching the girl to just relax and accept her nature and stop pretending.

For this to work the guy must have learned to stop pretending and accept his nature as well. I.e. become some version of a trad man.

Female orgasm arrives on its own when she’s feeling it, and when it arrives it’s a deep primal thing; like with many red pill things it tends to happen when you’re not trying to make it happen.

Aidan says:

I somewhat disagree with Varna. I don’t find the female orgasm very rare at all. Masturbatory orgasms are unsatisfying for women just as they are for men, on a psychic level rather than a physical one.

Women on SSRIs generally cannot orgasm with a man, and a lot of women these days are on them. I apply a hard filter to antidepressant users, especially for relationships. It fucks with pair bonding. A woman who can’t cum and can’t fall in love is just a sex toy. I know this because way back I had a regular booty call who was on them, and for the life of me I couldn’t get her to cum until she went off her meds for a week, at which point she got off absurdly easily.

He is right, though, not to “try to make her cum” or “focus on her pleasure”. It will not work and it’s bad frame. At the same time, trying to get yourself off as fast as possible is not the point either. Don’t focus on her and don’t focus on you. Sex is fun, just enjoy the moment.

As for technique, it is hard to put into words, but don’t fuck with your dick, fuck with your hips, in the same way that you don’t focus your attention on the bat you are swinging when you play baseball. To throw a good punch, you aim at a point behind your opponent’s head, and punch “through” them, not “at” them, and to fuck good, it is the same, fuck like you are fucking through her. Don’t think about what you see in porn. The dudes in porn are fags who can’t lay it down right, because they need to shoot from angles that leave the guy out of the frame. You should be holding her down or even pulling her into you as you thrust, and sometimes you should ram it into her as hard as if you were deadlifting or squatting, something no sex toy can replicate. If you are going balls deep, your pelvic bone will be hitting her clit just as your hog rams into her cervix, but that is an angle that doesn’t fly in pornos, so you don’t see it. I don’t mess around with foreplay very much- just enough to aesthetically enjoy her body and get her wet enough that I can fit in and get to work.

My frame, and I sincerely believe it, is that she cannot fail to cum when I fuck her like a werewolf, and I am rarely disappointed in that. I have a big hog, but you can satisfy most woman with a single finger, and even if you have a small dick, it’s bigger than a finger.

If you cum too fast, no apologies, no excuses, tell her good girl, you got me off fast, then you can play around with her body for a few minutes until you are ready to go again. If it’s been a while, I can go five or six times in a night, though I’ve never met a woman who can take it for that long.

Varna says:

Agree with Aidan on the hip movement.

Sometimes guys have very frozen waists and pelvises and it takes weeks of self-work to gradually unfreeze them muscle by muscle. Lower back too.

Until that point, while still an awkward stiff robot, placing a non-giant pillow under her ass can help control the angle and depth in a mutually satisfying manner, but the ideal is to have a functioning flexible hip-action pelvis thrust, and be able to do the deed well in any position.

After the initial banging to establish what’s what, the next ones can be more “expansive”.

When you learn to expand you attention to the whole situation and absorb (and control) the details, with no fretting or fantasies in your mind, just the moment–then ejaculation control becomes easier and easier. The penis becomes one (central) limb within a larger scenario, with lips and hands participating, guiding her internal experience.

That’s the point where you can go on for hours (going closer or further from orgasm via managing speed and depth) if you wish, or you can let yourself go and build up and finish within a minute. While she’s tripping balls internally.

Fëanor says:

Sometimes guys have very frozen waists and pelvises and it takes weeks of self-work to gradually unfreeze them muscle by muscle. Lower back too.

I have encountered this problem myself. Presumably there are non-sexual exercises that can help with it, but I am not sure what they are.

Varna says:

Men’s frozen waists can be unfrozen with a fornight or a month of
– focused mild stretching,
– self-massage for 10min a couple of times a day (always very very careful and gentle at base of spine, always the tissues around the spine never the spine itself)
– 2-3 minutes of early vintage rock’n’roll
– faggy aerobic stuff, including hip rotation

It all looks silly until you start getting very fast results.

Sometimes men get sucked into the division of “fags are fluid and flexible while real men are stiff and wooden”.

This is likely at least to an extent based on peasants and workers (and trad merchants and even aristos) getting frozen lower backs at an early age due to the effects of what they do, and the status of the stiff alphas gradually creating the image of the “real man” having the visual symptoms that the alphas used to develop. But in all classes after say 30-40 men tended to get locked up and stiff in the joints early on, especially in cold and wet climes.

When porn actresses give fake moans, those do not come from nowhere. Those are based on authentic moans of a woman losing control, which we now associate with fake whores. Even self-directed dirty talk can be authentic free-flow at peak sex tripping, as opposed to cringy fake shit.

When strip dancers do snake-like movements running their hands up and down themselves, this also does not come from nowhere. Authentically over-excited women (with non-blocked bodies) do move like snakes and do touch their bodies while sensual currents flow through them. But today we associate this with fake stripper behavior.

Likewise when low level hoodlums of all sorts walk with an exaggerated expansiveness, shoulders and hips rotating, limbs a-swinging, this makes them look like retarded clowns. But this is also a moron-filtered imitation of the authentic condition of being an unfrozen, flexible, cat-like male. Think Simon Templar as described by the Leslie Charteris or Conan as described by Robert E Howard.

Or, in a very exaggerated and hyperbolic manner, the vintage negro pimps in Tom Wolfe’s old essay about the flack-catchers.

Non-frozen waist and neck (shoulders), non-drab core, non-drab leg muscles–that’s the ticket.

Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

The anatomy of the ball-and-socket joints is designed for changing position, while the anatomy of the spine is designed for holding a position.

So more or less by definition, the most common issue in the general population is not enough movement in the sockets and too much movement in the spine.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ke_boq4uFbE

Tangential lifehack: don’t sit to shit, squat to shit.

Fëanor says:

not being sure that they cummed when we fucked

Obviously you want them to. But worrying too much about it is bad frame, as Aidan has said.

offering them breakfast

Make her cook it.

I jest, but only slightly. If she volunteers to make you breakfast, don’t let her leave. (I have had girls once or twice offer when I was at their place, but not when they were at mine—I suppose it is somewhat awkward to go barging into someone’s refrigerator…)

Pooch says:

I think Jim has touched on this before but after the first bang if at your place you want to kick her out afterwards, if feasible. She should be wondering if you are having another girl coming over.

Fëanor says:

Jim undoubtedly knows more than I but man I’m not sure about that one. Seems like a great way to have her get fucked by someone else before she makes it back. If this were the Old Testament, she would not leave, ever.

If you are having another girl over, I say the more the merrier, lol.

Aidan says:

I spent most of my womanizing career either living in a dorm with roommates or at my parents’ house/apartment, so I can’t say which is best. (though there is nothing that cultivates ZFG like banging a girl in a small apartment that you share with your mother) Roommates coming back and parents being home is a very good excuse to kick a girl out.

When I would bang girls at my own place, I’d often let them spend the night, because I’m a horny bastard and I like taking them again in the morning or middle of the night. And then I’d make them leave at some point during the next morning when I had things to do. Kicking a girl out makes her think you are higher status, makes her chase you, so it’s the right move when you need to secure your status. But banging her again in the morning light when the both of you are stone cold sober will make her feel owned. Pros and cons.

What to avoid is clinginess and giving her the impression that you want or need her to stay for as long as possible. Should seem, if you’re keeping her over, that it is totally routine and natural for you to wake up with a girl in your bed, it’s all part of enjoying a fling. Not beta when James Bond wakes up with some naked chick twisted up in his bedsheets.

Fëanor says:

Incidentally, what is it with the “starving artist”? Have never really understood the appeal the type has to women, unless having a lot of people paying attention to you is just that much of a hack to the female psyche, even if the attention is somewhat distant and abstract, and not enough to pay the bills either.

Leon says:

They are raging narcissists. They are tempermental, don’t really give a damn what the woman thinks and full of themselves. Constant highs and lows. Chick crack.

Leon says:

To use a mythology angle, Aphrodite didn’t just fuck Ares. She also fucked Hermes. She just never fucked Hephaestus.

Aidan says:

The brooding loner artist type doesn’t do well with women, but faggy, histrionic men, which overlaps with “artist” tend to do well at getting laid, because they incessantly babble, and women see men’s disinclination to pop them in the jaw as proof that he is the alpha who can run his mouth off. But, in most places and most times, the annoying fag would get popped in the jaw, and act more humble.

However, that type is exceptionally bad at keeping women around; their relationships are always short, dramatic, and unstable. It’s a mating strategy for weak men to seduce wives and daughters, and thus men need to pop the little shit in the mouth, or at least make a credible threat of it.

notglowing says:

>when you see some cunty feminist bitching that all sex is rape
Those that I have seen online are clearly the opposite, they are openly fantasizing about it
I’m not denying the overall point though.

Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

The ‘all sex is rape’ meme is perhaps the most succinct example out there of the ironic female tendency to end up describing their own desires when accusing a man of something.

Aidan says:

Should clarify. Sometimes you will see a woman complaining that “women don’t actually enjoy sex, they just go along with it because of societal pressure”, and that’s what I’m talking about. The feminists who fantasize about rape are vastly more common.

Deebly Concerned Citezen says:

Jim.

Here is one of the greatest extreme dieting channels ever, Sv3rige, going through his latest breakdown and disastrous breakup:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DY_0VANsXzU

He married that bitch a couple of months ago. It’s over already.

It’s always sobering to find out that most men still have no idea about women.

A2 says:

Part of growing up is to learn not run towards the red flags. The various birds with broken wings that meep pathetically at you are thus as a rule not relationship material, even if you do feel a twinge in your heart. Please note that if she furthermore looks kind of hot it will be even worse. The counterintuitive wisdom of NRx.

“Catherine came to me as a desperate attempt to get away from her abusive, narcissist father / family. ”

Case in point, though I believe the commenters here already have read the plentiful commentary on this.

f6187 says:

Sv3rige was long on mumbling psychobabble and short on salient points. No wonder she regards him as weak. Yes, she’s an irresponsible narcissist with a dismal attitude and a serious daddy issue, but if he could think and act more incisively he might have recognized that sooner and either changed her into a Samantha Stephens or dumped her over the side. Easier said than done, but needs to be done.

chris says:

My university might be going in the direction of mandating vaccinations for its staff and students.

The vaccines currently available are;
AstraZeneca – risk of blood clots
Moderna – risk of heart inflammation
Pfizer – mRNA technology that isn’t long term tested.
Possibly Novavax which may become available in November.

If one had to get one of these vaccines, (unable to get a religious or medical exemption), would the Novavax one be the best as it is based on traditional vaccine technologies and trials on 30 000 people show no evidence of myopericarditis or thrombosis?

(I am one year away from finishing an electrical engineering and computer science degree which is a 5 year commitment and which I would not want to drop out of in the last year.)

Alfred says:

Any vaccine with the spike protean causes myopericarditis and thrombosis. That’s the nature of the COVID spike protean. How bad a case of it you get is depended on the amount of spike proteins in the vaccine and if the jab fails to hit the blood stream. Studies show that despite all the vaccines are suppose to be injected in muscle tissue 12 out of 14 people getting the vaccines show spike proteins in their blood. The clotting then causes damage to the Circulatory system, but the amount of damaged varies a lot from person to person and drug to drug, with Moderna being the worst.

I recommend you don’t get any of them. Take a year off from school instead.

If you do have to take one, make sure you are taking blood thinners like aspirin, blood protection drugs ivermectin and nicotine ahead of time and during the first month to reduce damage. After getting the vaccine stop to any sort of heavy physical activity until your blood cells are recycled completely(120days). Myopericarditis is made worse by exercise.

Karl says:

If you do have to take one (unlikely at present anywhere), use suction cups to get the poison out of your body. Have some in you backpack (and a sharp knife, and bandages for dressing a small wound) and immediately after getting the shot, go to a toilet and treat the puncture site like you were bitten by a very poisonous snake.

If you are right handed, make sure you get the injection into your left arm (or some other accesible place)

Varna says:

Also self-isolate for real for a fortnight after any hypothetical shots.

Natural immunity to other shit takes a nosedive while the body deals with the injected shit, so for a few days or weeks people have Freddie Mercury levels of defenses against viruses and bacteria.

Luckily, important people have decreed that if anything happens during the first 14 days, it’s registered as happening to an “unvaccinated person”.

So spend a few days chilling and boosting your immunity before hand, and then great care for the first two weeks after, while the natural defenses are overworked handling the introduced toxins.

Also, put off any boosters as long as possible. If your body is constantly overstimulated to produce insane levels of antibodies, this may gradually grind down natural immunity the way HIV grinds it down through constant overstimulation.

Once this happens, the over-jabbed start getting typical AIDS pneumonias, which luckily important people have decreed are “new variants due to the unvaxxed”.

They’re already preparing the narrative that the flu is back and “when it combines with covid” this will lead to twice the deaths.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/health/familyhealth/health-chief-jenny-harries-issues-coronavirus-and-flu-warning/ar-AAPljFP?li=AAJt1k3

Also the first wave of “the worst flu ever” has already hit the UK.
https://www.ukcolumn.org/community/forums/topic/flu-a-public-health-concern-as-worst-cold-ever-spreads-across-uk/
The narrative is that those who experience it are lucky to be vaccinated, because otherwise it could have killed them and may in fact be covid all along.

And that’s after two jabs. After enough mass boosters as “everybody gets AIDS” metaphorically speaking, the “worst flu ever” and the “bad combination of covid and the flu” will turn into full-fledged super-pneumonia waves.

The less shots, the higher the chances the natural immunity will still work.

The pharma-corps are already preparing daily pills which people should take in order “to stay protected”, in essence turning billions of people into AIDS sufferers who need daily pills to not get pneumonia every half hour.

But that’s still a few months away. For now it’s only “the worst flu ever” that’s kicking off this highly interesting winter of shortages and blackouts.

If you’re lucky, you can get off this ride after one round of jabbing. But the deeper you go into the booster cycle, the more likely you’ll have to spend your life being a good goy in order to earn the daily pills that keep AIDS symptoms at bay.

Varna says:

Sweden has a sudden eruption of respiratory infections already right now, so… we should all get lots of sleep and do vitamins and liquids, gurgle listerine to keep the throat protected, and sit back and watch the approach of a very exciting winter.

Varna says:

Here, found it.

Vintage Soviet revaccination experiments on guinea pigs 1968-1974.

By the third revaccination the monophagic antibody response is depleted.
https://anonfiles.com/Fe3630N7ud/Soviet_vax_mp4
https://www.nakanune.ru/articles/117607/

I.e. after the second “booster” a lot of people are going to need to take daily pills for GRIDS fags to survive.

Although you can already see the gradual shift in the dominant narrative. At first the vaccinated were “bulletproof”, but today they’re already almost treated like immunocompromised wretches who are mortally threatened by selfish purebloods and their aggressive natural immune systems.

Nonsense of course, but based on guilt-tripping inversions which have become the basis of policy over the last half century.

Should not have allowed that to happen, in hindsight. Now’s the time to put on the “everyone has AIDS” song from Team America.

pyrrhus says:

Any vaccine that does not contain mRNA or other genetic engineering stuff in it would be safer than Pfizer et al…

chris says:

So that would be Novavax which is a subunit vaccine. Hopefully I don’t have to get any.

Sole Poster says:

How does one handle the red pill on women while staying sane and healthy?

I have been reading this blog for a year. There is something disturbing regarding many of the threads on this post, something downright disgusting not about the content of Aidan’s thread rather that the subject matter of what he describes is ignored or accepted as “moral” by everyone around him and that there is no way to get around it. Like “the Wall and settling” my parents married when my dad was 30 and my mom 32, and she had me at 37, and that no one seems to find it disturbing or evil. There is a part of me that refuses to accept “taming a whore” as you put it.

I am a college-age musician attending conservatory in New York City, and there is a loneliness as all of my friends and family are hardcore progressives. I am maintaining my studies, but there is a part of me which refuses to accept the red pill, “getting gud” with women, and I am afraid that if I don’t figure something out I am going to fall apart. As men fight and suffer for women and progeny, how does one deal with the part of him which wants “puppy love,” doesn’t want to “tame the whore,” and can look at all of what surrounds him while staying sane? Is there something I am missing?

Cancel says:

I tend to agree with you.

Most commenters here will tell you to pretend to be someone you’re not in order to get a woman and keep her in line, which if you’re successful at will involve you pretending for the rest of your life in order to keep your wife. (Even jim admitted failing at this and losing a woman. Imagine failing and losing your wife lol)

Or you can incorporate the knowledge on women here into your identity and just be yourself and let the chips fall where they may.

Pretending to be someone I’m not for the rest of my life seems a worse prospect than dying alone and childless, but being myself still gets me laid now and then, so I’ll take my chances. YMMV.

jim says:

Men are always on stage. We can never be ourselves when women are around, but as time passes, you grow into the role.

Cancel says:

Nuts.

What role would you have to play to get and keep a 3?

alf says:

Depends on your relative value. If you are a 2, better role your ass off. If you are a 6, provided you’d want to marry a 3, merely giving her your attention will be enough most of the time, although being a woman, she will still give you the occasional shit-test as sure as the sun sets.

In response to OP: the trick is to play your role in a manner you enjoy. There is a part in all men that enjoys being an asshole some of the time.

Cancel says:

The whole point is that men’s value is relative.

I’d rather start a cult to get pussy and fail rather than pretend to be someone I’m not my entire life to keep a woman. The latter is the worst sort of bugman death that could only be dreamt up in this depraved age as a solution to the woman problem.

jim says:

Your demons are telling you you are not that man. Become that man.

Cancel says:

Message received.

Varna says:

The “show the real me” thing is mostly a mirage.

You show different aspects of yourself to different people in different contexts. A to close friends, B to colleagues, C to relatives, D to spouse, E to online strangers, F to safe looking strangers, G to iffy looking strangers, H to people you’re negotiating with, and so forth.

Sometimes the sum of those different aspects is the real you, sometimes it’s the sum plus additional stuff you’ve kept from everyone.

The fact that you’ll only have to show certain sides of yourself when with your woman is a given. Just organize life so that you don’t always have to be with her 24/7, and also regular times away “on business” or “fishing expeditions” or what have you.

Some people need a bit of daily time away to recharge, while others–more extended periods out of town.

If you find a good balance it’s not agony always showing only certain aspects of yourself. If the balance is off then yes, it’s agony. But not inherently. Only because the tuning is off.

alf says:

Yet for some strange reason the love I share with my current woman is a thousand times more genuine than the love I thought I shared in failed blue pill relationships.

Cancel says:

I believe you Alf. I admire you and wish you the best.

Aidan says:

I don’t feel like I’m pretending to be someone I’m not. I am a man- there is a part of my soul that rides with Attila. Maybe it’s a caste thing, but even if you are a spiritual peasant, there is a tough-as-roots old farmer in you who does not take shit from his wife. Your ancestors survived a mountain of staggering hardships that would probably crush you the way you are now. There is a boar in every pig. When pigs escape into the wild, it doesn’t take many generations for them to grow bristle and tusks. It’s in your blood.

That inner strength is not playing someone you are not. It’s a vestigial part of you that’s been made weak and locked away, and it’s necessary to get in touch with it. In a liberalism that pretends to value authenticity, showing or not showing different parts of yourself to different people is considered “playing a role”, but it’s not. It’s simple good human nature to summon the powers within you to accomplish certain tasks and temporarily suppress other parts of yourself that are counterproductive to the task at hand.

Being myself did not work too well when I was high school age, but being myself works very well right now, because I grew stronger and resolved the tensions within myself. Jim said that the blue pill is like being possessed by demons, and he is right. It muddles your thoughts and your actions. When I read the posts of blue pilled men in crisis, it is like they are trapped in hell.

Yul Bornhold says:

“I am a man- there is a part of my soul that rides with Attila. Maybe it’s a caste thing, but even if you are a spiritual peasant, there is a tough-as-roots old farmer in you who does not take shit from his wife.”

This is searing burst of white pill that stands alone in the same way as “do unto other as ye would have them do unto thee.” Needs no further explanation. The blue-pillers can make no answer beyond bleating about toxic masculinity.

The rest of the explanation; the boars from pigs, the ancestral hardships, inner strength; that’s all very well and helpful for anyone interested in what you’re saying but they’re also the parts the enemy will instinctively seize upon in his rebuttal because the first part is so powerfully true.

Dalrock was powerful because he stated the blue pill in real words. When you bring it into the light, there are few things uglier. “You should take shit from you wife because that thing between her legs is holy and you can only appease it by cringing before her.”

restitutor_orbis says:

I think the entire concept of an “authentic self” or “real self” needs to be rejected. It’s a grotesque distortion of good Greek wisdom “know thyself’ perverted into new age memetics that weaken you.

I see the so-called “authentic self” as a foundation you build on to achieve arete. It’s the starting point, not the destination. Per Aristotle, a man becomes what a man habitually does.

A man is a hero who habitually does heroic things. A man is a coward who habitually does cowardly things. And every habit starts with a day where you wake up and say “today I will begin.”

If you want to be a man who has a particular type of wife, starting doing the things that man does. Do it long enough and you become that man.

jim says:

> I think the entire concept of an “authentic self” or “real self” needs to be rejected.

Absolutely: “Authentic self” is your demons telling you that you are those demons.

You create your own self.

Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

‘Finding myself’ is the eternal solipsism of the post-modern mind.

The sense of a thing can only be understood through relation to something beyond that thing; but the nuager rejects reference to any supervention of more transcendent teleologies at work in the course of Being, and hence is left only with tautological masturbation.

It has no capacity for discriminating between the value of one thing or another in any principled way, operating then primarily on an uncritical recourse to the caprice of impulses that themselves were shaped by forces far beyond them.

jim says:

> there is a part of me which refuses to accept the red pill, “getting gud” with women

That part is weakness and fear

The red pill will make you mentally ill if you try to cling to blue pill morality. Recognize blue pill morality as demonic, cast out those demons, and you will be healthy.

You think you are clinging to your demons, but your demons are clinging to you.

Wulfgar Thundercock III says:

I do not think it is just fear, but there is a great part that is. There is also the distaste that someone who wants a proper pair-bonding has with the hardened sluts that you have to deal with in college. College girls are usually not worth the time, and those who are are snapped up almost instantly. It is really rather repulsive the shit they get up to at school. It turned me off of dealing with women for a while.

That said, a starving man has few options other than dumpster diving. A man has to eat, and a man has to fuck. If you can only fuck sluts, then that is who you have to fuck. A hobo does not turn up a half eaten hamburger in a dumpster, and you do not get to turn up the used-up disasters that are college girls. Once you work your way through a few, you will find that they improve their attitudes once you establish yourself as the man. If they do not, then dump them and move on to the next.

That is why the red pill is not about the women per se but the restoration of patriarchy, which to my surprise, has few takers even in dissident right circles. 90% of women troubles would disappear in a functional traditional patriarchy and the remaining 10% can be easily handled by the individual men concerned without fear of state interference in private affairs.

The problem is that we see the results of blue pilled society all around us and the way women behave reflects the present social order rather than the other way round. Remembering that alone will make your perspective better.

I think you should rename the WQ as the PQ – patriarchy question- because everything boils down to that.

Atavistic Morality says:

As men fight and suffer for women and progeny, how does one deal with the part of him which wants “puppy love,” doesn’t want to “tame the whore,” and can look at all of what surrounds him while staying sane?

Reevaluate your priors.

What part of you wants puppy love and why? Why do you not want to “tame the whore”?

Consider this: when boys are young they naturally “tame the whore” with girls, pulling their hair and being “mean” to them. Did you do the same? Why did you stop? If you never began, why didn’t you ever begin?

No one can give you the answer which you must find within yourself, looking inside of you and find the truth, what is really a part of you and what was put there by someone else?

Aidan says:

I have written in the past to not show weakness to a woman. That does not mean you cannot be tender, kind, or affectionate with your woman, does not mean you be an emotional robot, it means that you cannot betray anxiety, fear, and powerlessness to your woman.

My girl believes that if there is hardship, I will endure it, if there is a problem, I will solve it, and if there is danger, I will defeat it. Loving and cherishing is not weakness, in the same way that playing with a dog or small child is not weakness. If you are the most alpha man she has been with, you will get “puppy love” indeed from her, and ensuring that you are the most alpha she’s had is the essence of what I advise.

The blue pill involves using your woman as an emotional toilet; your morality is as disgusting to me as mine is to you. I’m not joking. Strength is beautiful and weakness is ugly- unloading your weakness onto your girl is as disgusting and wrong to me as dressing up in drag and taking a shit on her chest, and she will internally react with the same disgust and horror. I refrain from displaying fear and distress in much the same way I do not shit and piss my pants.

The blue pill mixed with the red pill is that we are reluctantly playing a character that women like, because we are doing things for womens’ sake and accommodating their nature (the only part of the red pill you accept), that it is hard and miserable for us to not treat women like second halves and soulmates and all that crap. Give me a fucking break.

I am fulfilling the natural order, and it is pleasant and satisfying. I know what men and women are for, and what they are not for. There is moral and spiritual force behind my assertion that men control their fear and weakness like we control our bowels. I do not have to restrain myself from slipping into the blue pill because the blue pill is not the default- it is demons fucking with your brain, malware that prevents your masculine inclination toward the natural order from running properly. The blue pill is gut-level disgusting and unnatural to me. So make an effort to understand my perspective.

neofugue says:

> the blue pill involves using your woman as an emotional toilet

This is perhaps the most succinct summation of the blue pill for men.

Therapy as a profession is based on using licensed professionals as emotional toilets. Using the analogy of avoiding defecation around others, it is as if one were hiring a peeping sodomite. If a man faces problems he must act, not wait for mommy/therapist/female to save him.

There is a spiritual gap between one’s heart and one’s mind, and while OP has accepted the intellectual red pill he has yet to accept the spiritual red pill. Through forgiveness, repentance and humility he will be able to accept his predicament and make the best out of his current situation. The red pill on women is not only that women should be women and not men, but also that men should be men and not women.

Oak says:

> the blue pill involves using your woman as an emotional toilet

This is perhaps the most succinct summation of the blue pill for men.

I know men who are stoic and unemotional around their women, but could be described as bluepilled.

I think in essnce the bluepill is the presumption that certain traits that men would find attractive in a son in law (high investment in one woman, protective instinct/not putting them in danger; more generally, pro-social behaviour towards other good men, adding value to a tribe/society) are inherently attractive to women and will be rewarded with reproductive success by feral women.

Hence, one could be bluepilled on the WQ, but be alpha/high status (as men understand status). The importance of the redpill is understanding that what you respect about yourself or other men won’t necessarily translate into attraction in a woman (for higher races) or even be detected by them in the first place. Hence the need to be on a stage for women, and, at the the societal level, to give pro-civic men the means to demonstrate status in ways women understand (e.g. cruelty in response to dyscivic behaviour, enforcing physical deference of men of lower civic value, allowing only good men to carry big weapons and wear ostentatious clothing to cater to women’s more primitive detection of status).

Boy from Mama's Basement says:

[*deleted for being way off topic*]

c4ssidy says:

what could actually be off topic on here? people bring up all types of random subjects

jim says:

In the current world, almost everything from obesity, exercise, dieting, education, architecture, to history, to who is the new Israel, what Gods should we worship, and how should we worship them, is unfortunately political.

But not everything.

Leon says:

Is it worth it to buy a house in the USA right now? Rent and housing keeps going up in price, even in red states. I keep getting told that the housing bubble will pop but it just keeps trucking on. That might just be normalcy bias anyways.

jim says:

Certainly.

We are heading into massive inflation.

Cat says:

If I cannot afford a home in the west right now, what is my best course of action? A fixed interest loan seems like it would make sense, allowing me to lock in current (relatively) low interest rates, which will then inflate into very low to no interest rates. Alternatively, I could invest in real estate indices.

Would one of those two be my best courses of action, or should I invest in something else entirely? (Excluding cryptocurrency).

PSeudo-Chrysostom says:

Step 0: not excluding cryptocurrency.

Cat says:

Already have a small amount of cryptocurrency, thats why I excluded it. Need other assets that will perform well during inflation, like real estate. Never bet the house.

Alfred says:

Get some friends to go in with on a house.

Pooch says:

Commodities

jinn says:

When massive inflation hits, what countries are likely to be affected? Inflation is already happening across Europe too. Will Swiss Francs be safe? Will currency in Eastern Europe and/or South East Asia be safe? Or will the whole world economy hit the fan?

I ask because I am not in a position to buy property in USA but could pick up a house elsewhere.

Alfred says:

Anyone on the Petrodollar is going to get fucked. Russia on the other hand should do very well.

jim says:

While the similar causes are likely to have similar effects, each national currency will follow its own path, with most of them decoupling from the dollar eventually.

Varna says:

Many if not most EE countries can be self-sufficient in the basic foodstuffs and even clothes and shit if the global system undergoes an eruption of entropy that could cause real chaos and suffering in places like France, Germany, Britain, and the like.

Back in Soviet Empire times many “approved systemic virtues” were dialectical combinations of opposites. For example extreme centralized control was combined with also extreme promotion of local ethnic identities and histories. Every region answered to the center, but every region was also a mini-country in many respects. Which is why even these days if some chunk of Ukraine or Georgia changes hands or goes solo, or some chunk of Serbia or Moldova, they have the deep infrastructure to instantly pull off either independence or reintegration into a neighbor. Like Legos.

Likewise, while EE were very integrated into a common market of communist countries, self-sufficiency in the North Korean sense was also seen as a parallel virtue.

It was a question of national pride to make your own washing machines, TV sets, primitive computers, your own Kalashnikovs and your own clothes, to have your own own pharma and their own auto industry, no matter how small and poor the country, since it wasn’t a matter of short-term market logic, but rather a matter of combining hyper-internationalist solidarity with hyper-nationalist pride.

Combining this knowhow and experience heritage with the very very low population density of almost all EE countries today, plus no imported third worlder population chunks, means that big civilizational storms below the level of all out war–these places will ride them out with comparative ease, by falling back on old habits.

As mentioned above, territorially as well–the countries are made up of “lego pieces” which can fall away and go solo, or recombine into new configurations with other “lego pieces”, and still make it. Every “mother ship” is made up of smaller “emergency pods” per the old timey schizo Soviet Empire logic of hyper-centralized hyper-decentralization.

Even if half the injected with the clot shot get aids– EE will tighten its belt and survive. Also their cultural memory is about tenfold richer in “picking up the pieces and moving on” moments in the 20th century alone, compared to most western places.

(Places like Indonesia or the Philippines on the other hand, look to me as more fragile systems, whose balance between population density and theoretical self-sufficiency in case of global disruptions is not quite as favorable. EE is “prepper country” in the global disruption sense, even if they themselves don’t really see it that way)

Then you’ve got your multi-vector players like Montenegro, Serbia, and Belarus. They’re trying to balance the West with Russia and increasingly China. The positive of this is that even if one or two of those powers lose interest in stabilizing these small places, due perhaps to internal problems, one will always remain in the game. If the west and Russia are out–China will step in. If China is out–Russia will step in. If Russia and China are out–the west will step in.

The negative is that in times of geopolitical tension it’s these places where coups and overturned elections and theatrical assassinations and engineered separatist/border conflicts could likely take place.

Right now inflation is hitting everyone everywhere, since the dollar influences everyone everywhere. People are thus investing what they have into real estate. Thus prices there are growing. But growing compared to prior local prices, not compared to the really expensive places.

So now is still a good time to buy a place somewhere in south-east EE, by the sea, or in the mountains, or in some nice medium-sized city. I’m not sure if they all allow foreigners to buy property though.

I would stay away from the most globohomo EE countries such as, seen today by the vax mandate enthusiasm, Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, and Slovenia.

Pooch says:

Yes but I would only buy a house that I personally would live in in a outer suburbs/exurbs/rural county that is overwhelmingly majority white (at least ~80%) and majority Trump voting (at least ~60%). Anything else, and you are at risk at buying into a future niggerhood.

Rental properties are another story, I would buy anything where the numbers make sense.

Kunning Drueger says:

You should remove suburbs and exurbs from that list. Just went through the whole process. Made it into a rural zone, but if one greedy/tired/old farmer quits the fight, my defense-in-depth calculations could be adopted-by-gays fucked. Subdivisions are a powerful tool completely unused by the Right. What’s more, I can’t figure out how to argue against them. The land belongs to the farmer. The developers are just chasing profit. The contractors are feeding families. The denizens are NPCs. I know this is a post post-coup-complete issue, but I wonder how a Jimian Christian King would deal with mass migration of the momentarily moneyed to rural areas without falling down the slippery slope of central planning.

The Cominator says:

“I know this is a post post-coup-complete issue, but I wonder how a Jimian Christian King would deal with mass migration of the momentarily moneyed to rural areas”

Why would they need to do anything about it?

Kunning Drueger says:

Turning away from the men of the farms in favor of the worms in the cities is always an initial step in decline. Rural areas need to be protected by the king, not some scribe or representative. As I said, post post-coup complete, so probably not relevant, but ruling North America is an incredible challenge for a single leader. Protecting the status and capacity of the farmers, and their sons and daughters, should be a fairly high priority. Suburbs are a waste of good farmland. If men with hollow chests wish to be clumped together, let them do it in the cities. If a suburb is organized into minimum 7 acre plots that cannot be combined or appropriated for non-agronomy use, I think it might work out. But I think you’d be hard pressed to argue for large concentrations of commuters. No ties to the land, easily swayed into laziness, and fertile ground for hedonic misadventure. I guess it could work as a transition state, but probably better to send young men into the wilderness or foreign lands if they need external motivation to become good citizens.

The Cominator says:

Cities are due to decline due to technological developments if we avoid a dark age anyway.. The last thing you want to do is force people to stay in them.

Pooch says:

Why remove exurbs or small towns? I want armed Amerikaner neighbors around me that I’m in cooperate-cooperate with.

Alfred says:

Pooch is right, you need Amerikaners at your backs.

Kunning Drueger says:

Maybe I misunderstood. I thought the question was where is a good place to buy property. I think the suburbs are better than cities, but not by much and not for much longer. Virginia is the best example, but I’m sure there are plenty of other states (Colorado? Arizona?) that have based rural areas but are overwhelmed by blue suburbs. In my experience, Joe Biden is the new garden gnome.

That said, small towns are an option. But it is becoming apparent that we need to make massed moves. Especially in low population density areas, it doesn’t take that many highly capable people to effect dramatic changes. The NJ election fraud machine has been exported to the Mid-Atlantic with great success for Soros. They targeted assumedly safe red states and slipped enough turncoats under the wire and dominated state elections. Maybe that method could go both ways?

jim says:

> Maybe that method could go both ways?

No. Works for the left because power.

Kunning Drueger says:

I thought as much, but I don’t want to discourage nascent Trumps, Musks, and Theils. There is honor in fighting losing battles.

Pooch says:

Cities and the inner suburbs are toast. Where the outer suburbs meet the countryside (exurbs) and small towns, as long as they haven’t been race replaced yet, are likely to be defensible by close-knit communities and seem ideal to me. Isolated farmers with no neighbors and no tribe tended to have a rough go at it in prior collapses.

Kunning Drueger says:

I had an incorrect definition of “exurbs” in my head. I thought they were suburbs directly next to urban areas, but they are in fact the opposite. And they are a great place to be.

If anyone comes to us for advice on land, I think we should say “go rural,” and leave it at that.

jim says:

I live in an exurb – they are great. Seems to me that everyone who matters is moving.

Aidan says:

I was gonna say, you live in one man. Though the name is also used to refer to the mcmansion developments that get stuck out in rural areas, at the extreme range of city commuting.

Cloudswrest says:

Does it seem to anybody else that the amount of *IMPLICIT* fedposting has gone way up lately? By “implicit” I don’t mean calls to “do a terror”. I mean news and information, primarily on alternative networks, that’s guaranteed to make a red blooded white man’s blood boil. A few immediate examples:

The crackdown in Australia on the unvaxed

The two female student rapes by a tranny student and the coverup by the school board, and the beat down of one of the girls’ father by the police.

Bullshit videos like Kamala Harris chatting with children who turned out to be actors!

I’ll have to turn off media for awhile.

Pooch says:

They are hoping, praying, and salivating at the prospect of a “domestic terrorist” doing actual terror. Don’t feed into it. Yes the Western world is collapsing around you. Yes it is absurd, shocking, and outrageous. Learn to reach into your limbic system and turn off all emotion about it. Complete calmness needs to be the response.

Kunning Drueger says:

Pooch and I rarely seem to agree, but I think he’s dead on the money. I would bet that the Female Bureau of Inquisition has started to realize they need cassus belli and it isn’t happening fast enough, meaning the lower and mid-level cunts will be sharpening the knives of “streamlining” and reorganization. I know the Feds we may be/seem to be encountering are morons, but the OSINT wing of DHS is actually pretty good at aggregating data that can be engineered to be “””evidence.”””

It’s a very interesting time, or so it seems to me, because I feel like there are plenty of events that could emasculate any nascent knives in the normie sheepdog crowd, but for the first time in my living memory it also seems like a lot of events that could snowball very quickly. Wulfgar and others were discussing the possibility of another Waco and the ramifications thereof. I’m of the opinion that the Feds could touch off a “controlled burn” that spins out of control because of their religious blindness, baseline incompetence, or some other factor.

If the Voice is actually trying to start a fire at the behest of their psyop handlers, it pretty much proves Jim’s analysis that it’s incompetent turtles all the way down.

Fëanor says:

the Feds we may be/seem to be encountering are morons

I have begun to think that perhaps there are no feds, and what we are calling feds are legitimately just hapless autists. In which case I do feel sorry for them, although not telling them where to get underage girls or whatever is probably for their own good.

Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

That’s funny; i have often felt that many of the folk who post here might originally have come to do no good, but ended up flipping after a while of exposure.

jim says:

I have had very long conversations with very persistent feds, and the conversations make no sense unless a computer is scoring their output, and problematic texts get sent to human resources.

Aidan says:

Autists tend to be responsive to your arguments when you engage them. If they refuse to even acknowledge your point, there is probably someone looking over their shoulder.

I remember getting into conversations with an incel account on twitter that held the mutually contradictory beliefs that women do a lot of dogfucking, and that their attraction to men was based only on that man’s bone structure, and when I pointed out that dogs have nothing resembling an attractive human’s bone structure, the point went completely ignored. When I posted pictures of hot girls with their ugly drug dealer boyfriends, the point went ignored. It is not that he sperged out, or got mad at me, he completely ignored what I was saying and went right on with what sounded like a script. I presume the account was run by an agent to incite sexless men into planning violence and then arrest them.

Fëanor says:

Yes, inciters are probably feds, but most of the accused feds that I recall on here specifically were either proposing IRL meetups or asking for potentially incriminating information, which I think are as likely to be done by noobs unaware of the danger of infiltration, as by actual infiltrators.

On a side note, committing violence against more successful men is the natural reaction of a man shut out of the sexual market, and in the ancestral environment presumably worked quite well sometimes, but Elliot Rodger etc. seem to be exempt from the usual female tendency to simp for mass murderers.

Prophet says:

Maybe killing (attracts women) and being an incel (repels women due to mate choice copying) canceled each other out = indifference.

Fëanor says:

Indeed, it seems to be a much broader truth, that if you do anything specifically to get women, especially if you admit this, you will get no women, even if you are doing something that would normally get you lots of women.

Frame trumps everything.

Dave says:

Women simp for living mass murderers, not dead ones. See e.g. all the girls crushing on Dzokar Tsarnaev and none on his dead brother Tamerlan, even though the latter was more of a badass. Girls want guys who kill people and don’t die. Their instincts have no concept of “life without parole”.

Varna says:

Bravo.

They do simp for dead rock musicians for a while, though.

Dave says:

Only because they don’t believe Elvis is really dead.

2:45 says:

There is a certain forum I read from time to time. The population there consists of maybe fifty or sixty regular posters, a few hundred or so rare posters, and maybe a thousand lurkers at peak. This group of people has been hanging out online for the better part of two decades now. I met quite a few of them in person in the early days, when I was working in the same field as most of them. The current forum isn’t technically the same as the one they started on but the group of people is essentially the same, with some younger additions, and the group dynamics haven’t changed.

They behave EXACTLY as you describe. They have their ideological premises – leftist ones. If one presents concrete evidence that the premise is wrong, they simply refuse to process it. They do not discuss it. They do not engage the truth or falsehood question. At best, they declare it “obviously” wrong and the person who brought it up “shitty”. Afterward, the matter is no longer addressed. The premise continues to be presented as true, and all participants in subsequent discussions continue to take it as true. References to contrary evidence are met with denials or genuine incomprehension.
They have been behaving this way for as long as I have known them – like I said, the better part of two decades. I know the day jobs for many of them. I have personally worked with some of them.

If they are feds, it is a deep cover operation that has been going on since George Bush the Younger, supporting cover identities and occupations throughout that time, and the possible intended audiences for the deception are so marginal that for such an op to exist, similar things would be so common that feds must make up a plurality of the population of the United States. If you find that believable, you are a fool.

If you observe this behavior among other groups and decide that “fed” is the only possible explanation, you are a fool and/or lying to yourself. Specifically, you are operating on false premises, just like they are, and it will bite you in the ass eventually, just like them.

If you decide that I am obviously a fed for trying to divert you from what you knows to be true, you’re one of Lewis’ dwarfs stuck in the Ape’s hut.

But that’s none of my business.

jim says:

There are lots of real people who will not engage your position because crimestop.

But inability to notice Mueller and the FBI among troofers, and inability to notice Soros among those ranting about the Rothschilds, is not crimestop. It reflects organized sponsorship.

There are lots of “people” who monotonously push the same crap, and fail to acknowledge anyone disputing their crap. It looks remarkably a broadcast into a narrowcast medium.

Usenet was designed as narrowcast medium, and suddenly various large organized groups realized they could broadcast into a narrowcast medium. Resulting in an outbreak of scripted and robotic behavior which killed off usenet. Similarly the chans. The outbreak of robotic posting followed a little while after the Greencard lawyer incident. At first it looked like well funded private actors, but pretty soon Harvard got into it, roboposting communism into every newsgroup.

New scripts appear abruptly and uniformly and change abruptly and uniformly. If you see one script in one group, you will see the same script in every group. If a script stops being pushed, it stops being pushed everywhere.

Plus, we have various leaks about organized and well funded efforts to broadcast into narrowcast media, for various objectives from promoting Bezos to president, to suppressing “terrorism”.

I hear leaks about such efforts, and I see behavior that looks like such efforts.

Plus there is internal consistency, in that those doing the broadcast cannot acknowledge, or notice anyone else noticing, the misdeeds of the beneficiary of the broadcast.

If someone complains about the Rothschilds, orthodox Jews, and Tel Aviv occupying Washington, he cannot notice George Soros, cities burning and people murdered by mobs funded by Soros, or Jerusalem. (He cannot notice Jerusalem because Soros does not recognize Jerusalem as the capital of Israel)

If someone is a troofer, he cannot notice what Mueller and the FBI have been up to. He will attack competing spook agencies, such as military intelligence, but will not acknowledge, or notice anyone else noticing, the misdeeds of the FBI. (Because trooferism was from the beginning an FBI operation created by Mueller to cover the fact that the FBI turned a blind eye to the terrorists)

Inability to notice the Mueller and the FBI among troofers, and inability to notice Soros among those ranting about the Rothschilds, is not crimestop. It reflects organized sponsorship.

If someone has genuinely has a bee in his bonnet about Rothschilds, he might well refuse to respond to or acknowledge the red pill on women because crimestop, but what is stopping him from acknowledging misdeeds of Soros, or that Israel is run from Jerusalem, not Tel Aviv?

There are lots of people who absolutely genuinely have a bee in their bonnet about Jews – no doubt there are some people who think that I am one.

But is it not odd that some of those persistently posting on the topic, though theoretically opposing antifa, think it a spontaneous mass movement of the poor and oppressed, and find the proposition that many of those showing up live in mansions with a personal security detail keeping an eye on the mansion walls absolutely hilarious?

These unresponsive posters have a consistent pattern of unresponsiveness – and that pattern does not reflect crimestop, but the interests of a particular sponsor – sometimes a private sector sponsor who is just trying to make a dollar, but usually a state or quasi state actor like Soros.

Mister Grumpus says:

“Usenet was designed as narrowcast medium, and suddenly various large organized groups realized they could broadcast into a narrowcast medium.”

Great synopsis.

Can “crypto stuff” even theoretically help with this?

My naive first guess would be to theoretically charge bits of theoretical crypto-money to post somewhere, but that has to be stupid. Soros people have more money to throw around at that than anyone. Bummer.

Is there another angle to this? I know you’ve been thinking about it.

jim says:

If you are aware that I am working on it, you have probably read social networking

Mister Grumpus says:

Stellar understanding and synopsizing:

“The highest priority for a crypto currency should be to re-open free public discussion. (Since we are, at the moment, out of power, we are temporarily free speech enthusiasts).

“But the second highest priority, and the one that will get us money, is re-opening the path to entrepreneurship.

“Thus we should primarily be interested in freedom of speech about money and transactions. The enemy is shutting down forums where people can discuss unregulated crypto currency transactions.”

alf says:

There is a nuanced position and an not nuanced position on this.

The nuanced position is that, considering there is a great deal of people and a state that is not nearly as powerful as it portrays itself to be, not every shill is a literal paid shill. Mostly, paid shills show up in places where we’d expect them to show up — public fora, alt-right groups and pro-Trump gatherings. They tend to stick out once tagged, but of course, have to be tagged.

The kind of shills you talk about are unpaid shills, or rather, normal people who feel the tug of power. They read the paper every morning, have well-paid jobs in offices and consider themselves educated. They value their place in society and go to reasonable lengths to defend it. In cliche terms: they are plugged into the matrix and automatically rush to defend the matrix.

It is wrong to say these people are ‘victims’ exactly. In some ways, yes, but in other ways they are paid for their opinion just as much as literal paid shills are. Sometimes in status among their peers, sometimes also in money — if one works for the state, say as a teacher or bureaucrat or judge, one naturally feels a pull to adopt the opinion of the hand that feeds.

There are differences in the ways paid shills and unpaid shills act. The latter will engage in shards of real conversation. He might acknowledge some of what you say, he might even agree with bits of it. The conversation will be more idiosyncratic, less as if you are being read to from a script. But he will still derail the conversation, and because he gets his memes from progressive society, will in the manner of derailment still sound like he is reading from a script.

Whether he succeeds depends on whether the platform is moderated or censored — if censored, conversation dies, if moderated, you’ll get a truce of some sorts and you’ll find that despite differences, everyone has the feeling they are free to express themselves.

That is the nuanced position.

The not nuanced position is that in practice the difference matters not so much. When people act like shills, you treat them like shills.

The Cominator says:

“The kind of shills you talk about are unpaid shills, or rather, normal people who feel the tug of power. They read the paper every morning, have well-paid jobs in offices and consider themselves educated. They value their place in society and go to reasonable lengths to defend it. In cliche terms: they are plugged into the matrix and automatically rush to defend the matrix.”

I think plenty of them are paid. One way broadcasting via a megaphone with inability to discuss things like the woman question as Jim says indicates their work is being reviewed for crimethought.

Yes since 2010 at the earliest and blatantly since late 2015 leftists are increasingly like NPCs and generally without being paid but the ones who show up on far right forums and stick around… you have to wonder if they are paid. I do not think they are generally full FBI agents or anything, THAT would be absurd (in 99% of cases) I mean generally low paid “private” contractors of some spook agency or Soros with the shills probably in most cases unaware of where their money actually comes from. Remember “thank you for “correcting the record” two cents has been deposited into your account”.

alf says:

Low paid shills wouldn’t go through the trouble of meeting up.

ten says:

“Since i got aware of it leftists have been leftists”

People are NPCs to the vast majority. Going against power has in evolutionary time been extremely bad for your health. Engaging in questions of power, politics, is a stupid waste of time for most people, and they wisely and virtuously defer to whoever has the power to dominate signal. Low friction cohesion and cooperation, vulnerable to exploitation from evil power, necessitating the existance of the few disagreeable non-NPc canaries in the coal mine, and demonstrating the reactionary position.

The Cominator says:

““Since i got aware of it leftists have been leftists”

No there has been no point in my life where I was a leftist and I’ve always been aware of them… But they used to have way more capacity for independent thought. The NPC plague was not a thing not the way it is now before 2010 or so and it wasn’t so total until late 2015.

jim says:

What has been happening is that universities selected for holiness. Which resulted in faith that makes empirically falsifiable claims (“All men are created equal”) constantly strengthening its claims, and becoming more and more readily falsifiable.

Which until about the time of Bertrand Russel was handled by coming up with ever cleverer sophomoric rationalizations, so the faith was able to select it upper level priesthood both for intelligence and holiness. But sophomoric rationalizations ran out of puff, being replaced by troofer level lies (lynchings and all that) Whereupon any smart, thoughtful, person became increasingly suspect.

Suspicion of the overly smart set in as early as 1875, when a ceiling on the IQ component of university entrance tests becomes visible, which ceiling has dropped faster and faster to the present day.

But the brains of elite only really started turning to cow mush around 2010 or so, though you can see it starting to have significant impact in 1906-1910.

Pooch says:

It takes a certain amount of IQ to critically think and realize everything you’ve learned in your life is propaganda bullshit, which is why, unfortunately, the lower races are mostly hopelessly brainwashed by Cathedral propaganda.

The Cominator says:

And to reiterate going to places that are organically far right is not even normal NPC leftist behavior, the NPC leftist gets mental pain at crimethought and avoids it and has a terror of it like a vampire avoids sunlight…

So if they stick around areas of crimethought but do nothing but one way broadcast… good indicator they are being paid to do so.

jim says:

It is impractical and unwise to be nuanced about deception, because nuance requires a lot of accurate information, while we have a shortage of information and oversupply of misinformation.

Further, it you detect one thing that is hidden from you, there is going to be a lot more that have not detected. One lie all lies. If you add a cup of wine to a barrel of sewage, you have a barrel of sewage. If you add a cup of sewage to a barrel of wine, you still have a barrel of sewage.

pyrrhus says:

Very good point..Something I learned later in life, partially from practicing law, is that if they’re lying about one thing, they are probably lying about many things..When I got the time to seriously study history, I quickly found that almost everything I was taught in secondary school had been twisted to support a narrative that was either nonsense or dangerously insane…

Alfred says:

The deep state is desperate for some sort of violence that would really enable them to put the hammer down hard so they’re trying foment it harder and harder. They’ve tried 2 shitty false flags using their usual recruit an mentally ill dude in the last 2 months but people saw right through it and no one was harmed by the idiots. They’re going to have to step up the level of incitement or go full on false flag with only their actors involved. They need blood.

Though the likelihood of that hammer working the way they want it to work is declining. Trannies, spooks, and female cops can’t don’t actually do well during home raids. And the respect that people once had for the feds is way down.

Karl says:

If the deep state wants violence, what is keeping it from creating such violence? Wouldn’t be the first false flag.

My guess is the top of the deep state (the old, less crazy left) doesn’t want it. They want stagnation, not escalation. Maybe the lower levels of the deep state want it, but the top for now doesn’t allow false flags.

Wulfgar Thundercock III says:

There have been a few false flags attempted, but no one is giving them the benefit of the doubt anymore. The right does not trust the cops or the feds. I was reading the comments on a cop drug bust that went bad. They went after some black drug dealer who had an automatic Glock and he fucked a few of them up. The comments were sympathetic to the black guy, because he had not committed any real crimes, and the police were the police. That attitude was rare on anonymous or semi-anonymous gun forums just a month or two ago, and now it is the norm and the guys defending the police just back down and slink away when challenged.

If the feds try to commit a serious false flag, they will fuck it up because they are incompetent. Even if it was mildly successful and looked somewhat plausible, no one would belive them simply because it came from the feds. If the media jumped on it, it would make it worse, as there is a large and growing section of the country that reflexively disbelieve anything that regime mouthpieces announce. The people that they are trying to false flag are almost certainly more competent than the false flaggers themselves, which does not help the feds.

False flags were attempted, and everyone just pointed and laughed at the obvious fed is obvious. So the narrative just moved on. After a year and a half of riots, burning cities, murders, FBI false flags and entrapment plots, and everything else, a fake bomb in DC is just boring and low energy. They tried, failed, and are now sitting around looking sheepish and poking the right, as if to say, “c’mon, do a terrorism.” A false flag does not work because they are too impotent to make people believe them.

Karl says:

I don’t think the feds are too incompetent to execute a false flag and at the same time smart enough to know it won’t work.

Incompetent people are rarely aware of their incompetence and most of those that are aware try to hide their incompetence.

Maybe false falgs won’t work, but that alone does not mean they won’t be done.

Pooch says:

They can’t do a total false flag with only exclusively FBI agents because they need people to blame and then arrest/kill like in J6.

Karl says:

Don’t think so. If, as Alfred assumed above, the deep state simply wants to be able to put the “hammer down hard”, they don’t need arrests, especially not arrests of people actually involved in the deed.

Pooch says:

“Dropping the hammer down hard” would be the mass arrest of Amerikaners. Don’t need to arrest the actual perpetrators (FBI agents) of the false flag event, but need to plausibly implicate Amerikaners from their actions as in the Reichstag and J6. Otherwise no need for a false flag.

Wulfgar Thundercock III says:

They are not smart enough to know it will not work, which is why they tried it. Remember the guy who was parked in DC and said he had a bomb in his truck? That was a false flag attempt. Everyone called it for what it was, and they moved on and forgot all about it. I am not saying that they will not attempt false flags. I am saying that they already tried them, and they failed miserably.

Kunning Drueger says:

Can you recommend a place that is aggregating suspicious events, near misses, and/or likely false flags? It is a daunting task because you can’t just use MSM. So much local news gets pruned, suppressed, or even counter signalled.

Wulfgar Thundercock III says:

No, not really, and I would not trust one if I saw it. It would probably be a fed operation itself. You just have to pay attention to the news. If the regime media starts loudly broadcasting about something that is obviously minor and fake, it is probably a false flag. Maybe it is just the autism, but the pattern is so obvious to me now that I can see how something gets reported and moves on social media and just know. The fact that their false flags are so forgettable and half-assed just goes to show that the idiots are in charge now, and they cannot do anything. Their provocations are so incompetent that people did not even realize that was what they were supposed to be.

Pooch says:

Exactly. Cathedral propaganda outlets don’t cover stories that aren’t favorable to the regime as they are happening.
If something unfavorable to the regime happens (fall of Kabul), it will cover it way late in order to give itself time to spin in it in some sort of positive light.

If it’s covering some sort of suspected “terror” plot immediately the day it happens, you can assume it’s a false flag.

Varna says:

When I notice I start spending the day in a quiet rage and start sleeping badly I know it’s time to turn off the news for at least two days.

Not good for health to be constantly fuming, and a guy needs to be in good condition and aware, especially in the current historical period. Not be cracked and drained and easy to anger.

Basil says:

How disgusting. Nations that allow their women to dress like whores have no future.

https://twitter.com/NordicKari/status/1439725946253283328

Fëanor says:

Whores should dress like whores, and our women are currently whores whether we like it or not. Any current fashion trend towards modest dress is whores trying to convince men that they aren’t whores, and is good insofar as it indicates that men are waking up from the bluepill and realizing their preference for modest women, and bad insofar as anyone actually falls for it.

(I have seen multiple e-thots posing in blue floral dresses very reminiscent of the tradwife meme. Hopefully this is a sign that we’re winning the meme war.)

Pooch says:
pyrrhus says:

France wants recognition that Europe will be one of the “three world superpowers” in this century…totally delusional

Fëanor says:

Jim made this point a while ago, but it was buried in other discussion:

[Orthodoxy] is the only faith remaining that has the chain of apostolic succession alive and unbroken (Roman Catholicism, Episcopalianism, and Anglicanism found apostolic succession far too embarrassing, and very quietly stopped doing it, though I expect that there are still a few secretly Christian Bishops that managed to quietly receive apostolic succession in those Churches.)

What did you mean by this? As far as I know, Catholics believe that they and the Orthodox both have apostolic succession, while Anglicans do not; there are movements within the Catholic Church that believe that the chain has been partially or entirely broken for various reasons, but no one that I’m aware of has ceased to teach that it exists.

Fëanor says:

Clarification: Catholics believe that Anglicans do not have apostolic succession. I’m not sure what the Anglicans teach about it, although I don’t think most of them teach anything distinguishable from progressivism these days.

jim says:

> As far as I know, Catholics believe that they and the Orthodox both have apostolic succession,

The Roman Catholic ceremony has been amended to make it less embarrassing and to make it comfortably and conveniently ambiguous as to whether apostolic supernatural power and divine authority is being passed on or not, and comfortably and conveniently ambiguous as to whether that power originates in an unbroken line starting from the Lord Jesus Christ.

Cloudswrest says:

Prince William says entrepreneurs should focus on saving Earth rather than space tourism. https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-58903078

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This is a sophistic false dichotomy. Why are the two linked? Some equivalent examples:

Entrepreneurs should focus on saving Earth rather than software development.

Entrepreneurs should focus on saving Earth rather than movie making.

For some reason there is a faction that REALLY hates space technology development, even when it is private, no matter that it has provided us with GPS, Iridium, Starlink, weather monitoring, … and then come up with these bogus rhetorical reasons.

Starman says:

@Cloudswrest

“For some reason there is a faction that REALLY hates space technology development, even when it is private, no matter that it has provided us with GPS, Iridium, Starlink, weather monitoring, … and then come up with these bogus rhetorical reasons.”

With the Inspiration 4 mission and Captain Kirk’s ride to space in a sub-orbital capsule, I noticed fed shills posing as flat earthers suddenly showing up in multiple comment sections. From old accounts that barely had any posts. On Gab I spotted three of them in only two days.

Guy says:

I understand fed shills’ motivation for a lot of things, but not flat earth shilling. Speaking as someone who entertains a lot of conspiracy theories, I think the main reason we see them so prevalently today is not just because of the internet allowing their proliferation, but because the idea that the elite are retarded fags stuck in holiness spirals is in a lot of ways more scary than the alternatives. And it’s also hard for some people to believe who see the western society as mostly meritocratic.

Jim pointing out a lot of troofer lies has made me more cautious. The fact that people said building 7 was undamaged before it fell despite the pictures to the contrary was a big one. Obviously I shouldn’t take anyone’s word for it, but I didn’t imagine they’d lie so blatantly and did not initially understand why they would have the motivation to do so.

jim says:

Flat earthers could well be just genuine idiots. I have never checked them out for shilling minionesqe behavior.

But their videos are stylistically similar to Troofer videos.

Wulfgar Thundercock III says:

I knew a flat earther one time who was a good guy, and it was an honest belief. He would listen to me and respond to my arguments, but he always returned to his beliefs in the end. Some of them are honest, but it would not surprise me if plenty were feds.

The Cominator says:

Was he just stupid…?

Wulfgar Thundercock III says:

Not really. He was seeing that there were people who said that the earth was round that there are 51 genders, and that God did not exist (but who worshipped Satan at Epstein’s island); and people that said that God is real, the earth is flat, and there are only two sexes: man and woman. Who would you trust? If the foremost men in the fields of astronomy and geology are talking about 57 genders, are you going to take their opinions on geology and astronomy seriously? Who do you believe? The scientists, or your lying eyes. There was a bit of hallucinogens influencing his worldview, but he was not stupid.

alf says:

Yeah when people bring up flat earthers I maintain that, insofar it is not a fed operation, I’ve seen people believe all kinds of obvious falsehoods, such as that blacks and whites have the same iq and that women do not cause trouble in the workplace. Why should I be amazed at one more falsehood?

jim says:

Because one is something people are required to believe, and they tend to believe it in a sunday sort of way, not a weekday sort of way – they believe it without necessarily expecting any connection to reality.

And the other is something people are not required to believe.

Wulfgar Thundercock III says:

Well, this friend was not a fed, because I could have red pill conversations with him about women and politics. Some of it was over his head, but he followed my thoughts where he could and agreed or disagreed with me the way feds cannot. He was definitely an odd one, but I got more a sense of loss of faith in what authorities said more than anything else.

Starman says:

@Guy
At first I thought flat earthers were just schizopoasters or just trolls having a good time. Then I asked them multiple choice RedPill on Women questions. And they all refused to answer.

jim says:

That is a tell. An independent can answer, if only to disagree.

Can’t see any payload in it, but I could not see any payload in the guys claiming that Rothschild’s ruled the world until I taxed them on Soros, Victoria Nuland, and antifa. The payload is “Don’t look at us Jews. Look at those other Jews”.

Kunning Drueger says:

Flat Earthers could be a similar psyop to Westboro Baptist Church. Recently read some old posts about WBC I found link-hopping from this comment garden and it was pretty clear that WBC was an operation to stigmatize any opposition to momos as mouth breathing morons. FE is a pysop intended to stigmatize climate skeptics as mouth breathing morons.

The Cominator says:

Also 5G, also people who claim israelis remote detonated everything on 9/11, also people who claim the moon landing was faked.

jim says:

Of course. Should have been obvious to me. The noise is the payload.

If you lack faith in the mighty anthropogenic catastrophic climate change demon, you are a flat earther.

Cloudswrest says:

Kind of a version of Chaffing and Winnowing.

Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

There doesn’t necessarily need to be a specific payload in signal jamming; sometimes the static itself is the signal.

That being said, of men i am personally familiar with who might happen to truck in stuff like flat earth, they definitely fall more into the ‘trolls having a good time’ camp, with a little side order of schizopoasting. Think like Eddie Bravo.

Kunning Drueger says:

I was pretty sure FE started as a trollOp against the sciencists because it really riles them up. Maybe it was Cathedral psyop from the get-go. Either way, it seems to me that we need to be wary of assuming the Cathedral is universally inept. The WBC psyop was brilliant and worked incredibly well. Trooferism, too, is a gift that keeps giving. Somewhere in the tangled web of incompetence and demon worship, there are competent and capable enemies.

Aidan says:

Poisoning the enemy discourse is a priestly activity and priesting is what they do best. The WBC was not really even aimed at us, it was set up as a strawman to push normies into the homo camp. In 2000, any normal blue-voting dad would say “they can do whatever they want in private but I don’t want it around my kids”, and in 2008, you’re either down with the poz or you’re the same as the WBC. Same as the KKK being kept alive by the feds as an approved public enemy.

The WBC had suspiciously broad media coverage for being one fringe church and a suspiciously deep pocketbook to be flying all over the place. Obviously an op. Flat Earth may be an op, but it is a bit different. The enemy is uncomfortable to see climate skeptics talk about logarithmic relationships, the Medieval Warm Period, and 1970’s cooling hysteria. They want the signal jammed by flat earth, hollow earth, lizard people, and so on, not just so that we cannot talk to each other, but so that people cannot join our side; our spaces being permeated by stupid and/or crazy shills turns away smart people who are dissatisfied with the official truth.

Thus, calling the stupid and insane who appear to be on our side an op, is good hygiene for a faith whether the WBC is actually getting a check from Soros or not.

There is a disturbing implication in what I just said. There is somebody in the enemy camp who can look at our discourse and realize that our talking about logarithmic relationships and the Medieval Warm Period is a problem, and thus we get shills. The enemy has a reverse-Beria working for it, somebody or some body of people who can commit crimethink, who can target the most dangerous parts of our discourse for infiltration and jamming, which means that they can understand what we believe. So yes, the most competent man among our enemies is probably leading the counterintel ops. That makes it our duty to turn him of course. Or maybe he’s already been turned and is waiting.

Wulfgar Thundercock III says:

An anti-Beria is a frightening thought, but I do not think it matters. He can try to jam the signal, but we have reached critical mass. Our memes spread regardless of the jamming. The NRx memeplex is the dominant force on the right. Everyday more people are reached and become more based. I hear things today that would have been unthinkable just months before, and the pushback against these prole-NRx heretics is steadily failing to keep them in check. We are cool, and the left is not.

notglowing says:

>but we have reached critical mass
Even if we had not, the enemy is effectively forcing people to the right one way or another. It is increasingly impossible to just ignore and accept, because they come up with increasingly intrusive ways to make your daily life impossible, and the constant lockdowns and vaccine passes are an example of that.

They will simply not leave people alone, which is poor judgement. Because many of those people would probably just try to ignore the problems, if they could, losing your job is not worth it.
But what if you are gonna lose your job either way? Then you have nothing to lose either.
If they had better judgement, they would not push things this far.
More than anything this is proof that our enemy is not a well coordinated, rational, well organized monolith. The only fitting explanation for this irrational behaviour is a holiness spiral.

Cloudswrest says:

When you mentioned “flat earthers” above I thought you were using it as a slang for anti-space people, but now I see you were being literal.

While I’m aware there are people on the interwebs that claim to be flat earthers, I always considered them to be trolls or schizo loons and never paid them much attention.

notglowing says:

There is way too much attention towards flat earthers. You will find no end of videos on youtube minutely analyzing and “debunking” their claims or ridiculing them. Traditional media also features that stuff sometimes.
It’s a go-to example for them to ridicule the right, and conspiracy theorists.
Which makes me believe they prop it up intentionally. I’ve never met a “flat earther”. It might not be an op in itself, but it being widely publicized absolutely is. And it’s not as big as they pretend it to be.

Cloudswrest says:

I once read of an FE who, when asked, “What happens when you get to the edge?” Replied, “There is no edge, you reappear on the other edge.”

This is basically the geometry of The Real Projective Plane. This is a regular, compact space that is not embeddable in 3 dimensions, sort of like the Klein Bottle. More complex than a sphere, and I don’t think it’s what the FE had in mind.

f6187 says:

“There is no edge, you reappear on the other edge.”

When my cat knocks a pencil off the edge of my flat table, I would love to see it reappear on the opposite edge.

Mister Grumpus says:

@Cloudswrest:
“For some reason there is a faction that REALLY hates space technology development, even when it is private”

“They hate us ‘cuz they ain’t us.”

I never went to high school or college football games and complained about sports stuff “taking” money from nerd stuff for the exact same reasons. I look back on that now with regret. So freaking obvious, and so unnecessary! What a little bitch. Facepalm!

Cloudswrest says:

Steve Sailer has an article today on NASA sending minorities to the moon. Here’s one hilarious comment!

“If making RuPaul mission commander is what is required to get humanity back to the moon, I’m all in favor Steve.”

Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNRpjXB3kcA

Vertical integration was one of the defining features of the ‘captains of industry’ of the eighteen hundreds, who, in the course of providing one particular good, found that they needed to essentially recreate an entire society in miniature in order to best provide that good.

Many of those valuable freeholds were ultimately destroyed at the hands of whiggish theocrats, under the pretext of monopoly busting, and the vital civilizational energy of that epoch was never fully recapitulated since heretofore. As it happens, they did in fact need to recreate an entire society in miniature in order to best provide one good in particular; and one part of society they more or less all missed, was it’s priesthood.

But the inevitable logic of what converges towards greater potency remains the same, and becomes all the more pertinent as broader structures of potency in general disintegrate in our most current of years.

We could call a landed gentes Lord, because he had valuable property, and a means of defending that property, and that property itself in turn also facilitating his means of defending it.

The organization of his land, his tenants, and his militia of tenants, altogether represented a teleoplexing of capital. As more potent forms of capital have increasingly developed, we should see how the old metaphor of comparing captains of industry to feudal lords, in fact can well be literally appropriate. The landed gentry that grew up out of the chaos of the western roman empires disintegration, reestablishing civilization, had power first, and were declared Lords after, a formalization of this fact, after the fact. And just as we might intuitively recognize ownership of land and supervention of it’s tenants as naturally entailing lordship, so should we also recognize supervention of more advanced superstructures of capital as freeholds that necessarily entail – and depend on – lordship.

jim says:

We are going to need sovereign corporations

Basil says:

Don’t you think that Orthodoxy is too centralized? If you look at examples of what can be called living religions in our era (some Protestants, Hasidim, Mormons, Russian Old Believers, and so on), they have a completely different organizational structure. The higher the hierarchical church ladder, the more likely that from top to bottom will be lowered “women’s rights”, “the fight against Nazism” or something like that. The risk that every next patriarch will become an analogue of Pope Francis is too great. Well, or the King, on whom the head of the church depends.

Of course, one can hope for a true revival of the ROC and the restoration of Orthodoxy, but one should always count on less positive scenarios.

jim says:

Centralized? There are umpteen national orthodox Churches. It is not like Roman Catholicism, where if the Pope is apostate, everyone is out of luck.

Of course Orthodoxy will not work if the sovereign is not Christian, but what does?

Basil says:

Itis not like Catholicism, but it doesn’t is not like Protestantism / Sunism either. The level of centralization at the national level is already too dangerous, as practice has shown.

The Cominator says:

The Orthodox Church seemed to survive a century of communism and in many places multiple centuries under Muslim rule fairly unpozzed with quick self correction…

It looks like it will survive the cathedral and globohomo as well.

“Of course Orthodoxy will not work if the sovereign is not Christian, but what does?”

Yeah this. The Sovereign doesn’t really have to be christian but he can’t be hostile to Christianity.

“Itis not like Catholicism, but it doesn’t is not like Protestantism / Sunism either. The level of centralization at the national level is already too dangerous, as practice has shown.”

A totally decentralized church that has massive political power is potentially prone to holiness spirals. I tend to think for various that American Southern low church Protestants would tend to avoid this for generations (as Southerners are not very holy by nature) but in time if the church is powerful you’d get entryists…

Basil says:

It is an open question how well Orthodoxy survived communism… During the Empire, the average Russian woman married at 16 as a virgin, gave birth to 6-7 children, went to church, listened to her husband, the marriage ended in death.

In just a few decades of communism, the age of marriage reached 26, a very rare woman marries a virgin, 1.5 children, in practice household matriarchy reigns in many families, churches are filled with grandmothers, marriage ends in divorce, world records for abortion (due to taxpayers), HIV epidemic at the level of Africa. Georgia is the only Orthodox country with a birth rate higher than the US birth rate (2.05). Given that every Orthodox country is poorer and has the same or less urbanization.

If there was one national church in the modern United States, it would be a globohomo church of worship of whores and blacks.The number of different sects and the affordable home education is something that somehow holds back the flow of crap.

jim says:

There is one globohomo national Church.

There is always a national Church. If no national Church, it is a vacuum that inevitably gets filled swiftly. The reason that the United States had several national Churches before the war of Northern Aggression was that each state had its own state Church – the war of Northern Aggression being the Church of New England imposing its religion on all the others.

jim says:

Practice was submission to communist rule. Seemed to handle it rather well.

Pooch says:

Of course Orthodoxy will not work if the sovereign is not Christian, but what does?

Afrikaner Protestantism working fine for the Afrikaners as they wait for the collapse of the sovereign. I reckon Amerikaner Protestantism will be fine for the Amerikaners.

HerbR says:

You want decentralization when out of power, centralization when in power.

A “decentralized” priesthood sounds like a priesthood with open entry. That is exactly the problem, along with priestly power over state affairs.

Catholicism is supranational, that’s what rubs so many of us the wrong way. A national church (i.e. state religion) is not only necessary, it’s inevitable. The only question is what it will be and who will run it.

Basil says:

I understand that decentralization has its costs. But the costs of centralization are incomparably higher.

It seems to me that fragmentation is the best way to deal with leftism. In a centralized system, socialists and feminists integrate into the system and change it to their liking. In a decentralized system, they will stray into gangs of shakers and gradually die out.

jim says:

It always comes down to war. If fragmented, the enemy will come for each fragment one at a time.

Dave says:

War selects for right-wing values; peace selects for left-wing values. This is not a claim of fact but an axiom that serves to define “right-wing” and “left-wing”.

Empires tend to instill right-wing values in the countries they invade, while the imperial homeland, untouched by war, drifts ever leftward.

HerbR says:

This is all backward. Globohomo is a highly centralized system and has no trouble dispatching agents all over the globe to deal with any decentralized pockets of resistance. We watch this happen in real time every day. It crushes any attempt by these decentralized groups to organize into anything larger. Feminism was always centralized, never decentralized. That’s Reaction 201/Jim 101: the left looks decentralized, makes itself look that way intentionally, but is in fact highly (if not totally) centralized and extremely well coordinated. Globohomo is starting to become weak and disorganized not because it is centralized, but because it is in the advanced stages of a holiness spiral/left-singularity and is rapidly losing the human capital necessary to organize effectively.

Come the reaction, government is still going to be centralized, because government must by definition be centralized. But it will openly centralized, clearly expressing the authority of one king over many warriors and some warriors over many priests, with an openly official state religion. We want to have one king a thousand miles away, not a thousand kings one mile away.

This does not imply that every aspect of society should be centralized (i.e. totalitarian). A wise king/effective government only centralizes the essential government functions of providing peace, security and order. There is no reason to get involved with trifles such as how many minorities a business employs or whether the husband and father down the street from you keeps a collection of shotguns and a wooden paddle in the closet. Although the large business will probably still centralize its operations, and the father of a large family may centralize familial responsibilities.

There are things we want to decentralize right now because centralization under an evil and increasingly incompetent authority is crushing the life out of them, but that does not equate to “hierarchy bad”. That’s the lefty mentality.

Leon says:

Governor Inslee of WA state just called for proof of vax to attend large events. Also doubled down on state employees required to get the vax.

Alfred says:

Washington State is like California Jr. How did the west coast get so fucked up?

Leon says:

WA state was the first place the Californians invaded. Plus a great deal of immigration into Seattle, and Seattle is home to some of the biggest leftwing companies and organizations. The massive growth of the Seattle area let’s it dominate all of the surrounding areas and the rest of the state. Sadly, I think the same is happening to Idaho. Idaho is getting not just Californians and Washingtons, but last year they were the number one immigration spot for New Yorkers.

Leon says:

To add to this,the Californians and Washingtonians have been invading Wyoming. Housing prices went up there, Montana, the Dakotas, even Tennessee thanks to Nashville.

Pooch says:

My guess would be that you can trace the origin of the West Coast white shitlib to the New England Brahmin. At some point, it became highly fashionable and high status for Brahmins to move out west.

Andy says:

I agree – the question is how to survive and where to flee if you’re just a regular Amerikaner. My family basically walked across the North American continent over the course of 400 years and spent the last 100 or so in Cali. Now what? Where does one go to sit out the collapse, or whatever comes, without being Holodomored? Find a secondary center of power and sidle up to the belly of the beast, hopefully going unnoticed? I have my eye on the great American redoubt but wonder if it will ultimately be targeted and starved out. Better to disappear in the coastal mountains for a time?

Andy says:

Thanks. Currently in a small town with its own local police force at the periphery of a major power center. Gun ownership is high and the diversity is wary. However, we do have a feral woman problem that seems to be getting worse…or perhaps getting a boost from the Covid/Woke insanity. We’ll see how things hold up as the rot continues. There may not be many better options for me in any case.

The Cominator says:

Within the Continental US Florida, yes its not strictly white but the right here is just more consistently competent than other places and actually for whatever reason does a good job at keeping the minorities from supporting the left.

Varna says:

Globohomo and the sane diverging into separate biological species is happening faster than anyone expected.

Karl says:

A recurring theme here has been that our rulers are getting dumber. I just encountered proof for this phenomen here in Germany.

The German government has been bullying people to get the clot shot. Proof of vaccination (or recent recovery) is necessary for entering shops, restaurants, gyms etc. However, proof of vaccination is very easy to fake. Of course, (almost) everybody had assumed that forging a vaccination pass is a crime.

However, apparently that isn’t the case. The government passed a law that at first glance looks like forging a vaccination pass or using a forged pass is a crime punishable by up to 1 year imprisonment or fine. Careful reading shows that it is only a crime if the pass was forged by a physician. The law firm also states that the state prosecution of cologne agrees that such forgery is no crime.

For those, who don’t want to take my word for it, here is a link to an article posted by a law firm that analyzes in detail why forging a vaccination pass is not punishable under criminal law.

https://www.wbs-law.de/allgemein/gefaelschte-impfpaesse-gesetzgeber-muss-strafbarkeitsluecke-schliessen-57123

Of course, the article is in German, but machine translation should work for those that are interested.

alf says:

Here’s one that got my friends laughing. In an attempt to convince the unvaccinated, they made a couple of commercials featuring a fat immigrant doctor shilling the shot.

https://youtu.be/Z5NMnXMrxBU

Which the Dutch minister of health proudly boasts will soon be aired in Dutch cinemas…. Where the unvaccinated are not allowed.

f6187 says:

Hah, good to see it’s ratioed all to hell and comments are turned off.

Pooch says:

Just curious what life is like in Europe. So are most of the unvaxed just forging documents to get into places? Or is it not being enforced so strongly outside of the major cities to much of an inconvenience?

Upravda says:

In Croatia, on 4th of October government obliged medical and social workers to either get vaxxed or subject themselves to test on Sunday and Wednesday evenings, payed by public money. Or get Covid – it counts as being vaxxed.

About 15 percent of doctors and one third of nurses still refuse to be vaxxed and rather subject themselves to periodic testing.

Among idiots and cowards who used to attach facehugger on themselves when walking alone on wastelands or driving alone their own car, there’s growing amount of unease because more and more of infected are vaxxed. Since the claimed reason for introducing Covid Ausweiss was “preventing virus entering hospital system” or something, it was quite hilarious when few days ago, less than two week since the introduction of the Ausweiss, entire department of otherwise fully vaxxed personnel in city of Rijeka hospital catched Covid.

Pubs are fully open since September, indoor and outdoor, I don’t know how, by the grace of God is the only explanation, and absolutely no one enters them with facehugger attached. Generally, folks do attach it loosely when shopping, in public transportation, and such. Older kids, 12 and up, still have to attach it in schools. On all other places, more and more people pretend they are outdoors, even when in churches and kindergartens.

Earlier this year, it seems to me that there was an attempt to get the Catholic church into obligatory vaxx camp, but priests, including local cardinal Josip Bozanić, have said something like “yes, yes, vaccines are nice, but vaccination should be entirely voluntary. And parents should decide for their kids.”

Since then, our cuckservative government has been repeatedly saying that there will be no obligatory vaccinations, and no lockdowns. There weren’t. For now.

Surprisingly, out President Milanović, nominally a lefty, but clearly an alpha male, has publicly denounced all that mindless hysteria as exactly that – “a frenzy” – calling for return to normal life. He even proclaimed CNN and other media outlets as “lunatics” who “spread panic”, and all attempts to eradicate Kung flu as “madness”, “out of mind”, something that “can not succeed”.

He has two sons, one of them is in high school. Milanović said: “My first two years in high school were formative for me. My son spent them in darkness, in front of computer screen.”

Never agreed more with a leftist.

chris says:

“Since the claimed reason for introducing Covid Ausweiss was “preventing virus entering hospital system” or something, it was quite hilarious when few days ago, less than two week since the introduction of the Ausweiss, entire department of otherwise fully vaxxed personnel in city of Rijeka hospital catched Covid.”

I’m worried that the plan is to normalise the spread of covid amongst the population so that it is as common as the flu. Then neither the vaccinated nor the unvaccinated will be able to avoid covid infection and we might end up with a Marek’s disease situation.

Alfred says:

It is the flu. The only issue with it is the difficulty in getting Ivermectin to treat it. India’s already over it by most accounts because they’ve been handing out Ivermectin.

Karl says:

As far as I understand a Marek’s disease situation require a working vaccine. Don’t think we have that.

alf says:

Ups and downs. Situation here comparable to Croatia it seems. No masks, but all-in on the shot. Unvaccinated are officially barred from restaurants, but unofficially many restaurants are not checking, save your local mcdonalds.

Most people seem to be done with the covid hysteria, even if they got the shot. But I see no signs from the state that they’re done with covid hysteria. Not sure what’s going on. Probably the holiness spiral spiraling further, as they await what are probably weekly changing instructions from the US/EU.

Gauntlet says:

In Norway all covid measures are rescinded except entry into the country in which you need to get a rapid test.

Normal life has resumed. Restaurants are open, public transport is open. I flew domestic recently and “had to wear a mask” in the airport, I did not and no one cared not even going through security. I had to have it to board the plane but quickly slid it down after passing the cabin crew.

As of Monday the 18th of October masks are not even required in the biggest airport and the two largest domestic airlines do not require them on flights either.

The people has moved on but are all in on the shot. Some will get a booster if offered but the uptake won’t be 90% as with the first doses. No vaxx pass required anywhere. Corona has been declared to be not much more serious than the yearly flue epidemic.

Oog en Hand says:

Mullah Krekar will thank Jens Stoltenberg for handing over Norway.

Gauntlet says:

We all (as in Europeans) live in countries where the “leaders” sold out the people and handed the land to invaders.

Upravda says:

@alf, @Gauntlet
You two are from Netherlands and Norway, am I right? Those countries, together with Sweden, Denmark and recently UK got some positive press coverage from, let’s say pro-liberty, press in Croatia regarding handling that mindless hysteria.

Is that positive press coverage deserved? At all?

I’ve also heard that Spain, despite being pretty much coronatard, manage to escape some of the worst consequences of mindless hysteria – Covid Ausweiss, to be precise, by ruling of their Constitutional court.

So, if some or all of that is true, I can not but notice that those countries are kingdoms, not republics. Furthermore, while some European republics did retain some amount of common sense, it seems then that monarchies retained, on average, noticeably higher amount of common sense.

Could there be some connection…? Or am I simply wrong?

By the way, I’ve started to enquire can Croatian company employ a Croatian citizen (me) whose temporary residence (“boraviÅ¡te”) is outside of Croatia and/or whose permanent residence (“prebivaliÅ¡te”) is outside of Croatia. In Bosnia and Herzegovina, to be more precise. If it can, I’ll further find out how to obtain some residence in Bosnia and Herzegovina. Just in case that everything goes downhill. Nobody will actually check where do I actually reside, nor could they, so I intent to actually stay at home but have some good shielding from eventual fees.

alf says:

Is that positive press coverage deserved? At all?

For the Netherlands, a little bit, but not so much. Does not seem like a mandatory shot is around the corner like our Italian friends. But at the same time there is a media offensive that tells us the unvaccinated are the new nazis, and the state at its best is cuckservative. Non-shots are already barred from restaurants. So who knows what the future holds in store.

I dont think it is correct to see the Netherlands as an ex-monarchy. Monarchy was always an off-on affair, I think arguably only the first Willem III pulled it off successfully, and that was 300 years ago. the Netherlands for most of its early history was a virtuous republic, and noting how it has declined into a corrupt republic, not so optimistic for the future.

Oog en Hand says:

Yes, there is a connection. Compare Saudi-Arabia (kingdom) with Israel (republic).

Upravda says:

What’s the comparison? As far as I can read in mainstream media, Saudi government is only just a little bit less coronatarded than Israeli. And I had in mind primarily European republics and monarchies…

Gauntlet says:

Yes, I believe that some of the good press coverage you speak of is warranted. The kingdom connection is interesting but I doubt it has much to do with anything. The king is cucked in general and race cucked by his daughter dating a negro.

Life is almost back to normal. Only the holy are mentioning coronadoom in everyday conversations. Everyone is aware “something is off” with the vaxx but dare not question it and talk little of it. It goes much like this:

“Surely the government would not give us anything bad. I could never believe that… oh you heard about there might be a third booster for the elderly? I don’t know much about it”

Complete official trust but a nagging doubt is noticeable.

I have heard nothing about vaxx passes, there is no need for them as the government declared victory over the Corona demon.

Upravda says:

“Surely the government would not give us anything bad. I could never believe that…”

That’s precisely the attitude of my dad and mum. Despite dad reading everything (wouldn’t be surprised if he even stumbles sometimes on this blog). There’s simply a mental line, a barbed-wire fence, he is unable to cross, unable to fathom the possibility that he is being grossly lied to. It saddens me a lot. Mum, of course, listens to him. And that’s the real mind-state of many elderly people.

In a way, Covid *is* the most dangerous disease ever – it turns off higher brain functions.

But, this lovely couple:
https://fritanke.no/kurerer-kreft-om-den-syke-har-sterk-nok-vilje-til-a-helbrede-seg-selv/19.11161
🙂

I’ve almost fallen from the chair laughing when reading one detail of her Wikipedia biography regarding that black fella: “Verrett claims to have been initiated spiritually by an American woman who calls herself ‘Princess Susana von Radic of Croatia'”

I actually did hear for that woman, “princess” Susanna, when I was a boy, in early days of Croatian independence when some magazines for women and “yellow” magazines did feature her a few times.

Pooch says:

Apparently the Princess’s divorced husband killed himself shortly after hearing of her relationship with the black. Fucking Christ.

Karl says:

Europe is huge. Covid laws and regulation differ by country. In Germany, covid regulations generally are enforced.

Face diapers have to worn in train stations, public transport, public buildings unless a medical exemption is certified. Non-compliance is treated as a misdemeanor and punished by fine of 70 to 250 EUR.

Vaccination passes have to be presented whenever a restaurant, hotel, gmy etc. is entered. The business owner is required to check the documents. If he doesn’t do it, he risks being fined (500 EUR to 5000 EUR usually). The police checks restaurants and such places often enough that most business owners do not want to risk being fined.

Hard to say how many of the vaccination passes in Germany are forged. I guess a few percent.

Pooch says:

Wow that is quite a black pill. Are they even enforced that severely outside the population centers? Don’t dox yourself but how are you getting groceries and such? Is it possible to manage an unvaxed life there at all (without forgery)?

Karl says:

Supermarkets at present do not require proof of vaccination, only that a face diaper is worn.

Enforcement in the countryside is generally somewhat lower, one reason is that there is simply fewer police. Another, perhaps more important reason is that the fewer people see that a business doesn’t care about corona regulations, the fewer people can tell the police. So if you walk into a family owned business when no other customer is present, chances are pretty good that no-one will care about your lack of a face diaper or vaccination status.

The population is divided on this issue, but many think that the black plague has returned and survival of everyone is at stake. Those people enforce corona regulations against businesses.

Pooch says:

The face diaper situation sort of mirrors that in America. In the cities, compliance is high indoors and if you don’t wear one you will be in the minority. You may or may not be asked to wear one when entering businesses although the diversity/migrant workers and cops seem generally uninterested in enforcing it. The populace seems mostly willing to comply anyways, but you’re more likely to just get dirty looks from white shitlibs than anything if you don’t wear one. Blacks would never get questioned for not wearing one because of their privilege so maybe this has contributed to the overall lax attitude in physical enforcement of the mask.

As you travel farther away from the cities compliance steadily drops to about zero in the exurbs and country, where the occasional face diaper wearer may be seen.

As far as vax mandates, I’m not aware of any major city that has them outside of NYC (and maybe LA?) so I was curious what it was like in countries that have them widespread.

Karl says:

Well, it is not yet a vax mandate, but we are getting there. It has started for some professions.

Funny thing is that the mandate started this year with teachers who now have to vaccinated against measles. So far corona vaccinations are not strictly required.

yewotm8 says:

What he describes seems very similar to Canada. However there is no “passport”, just show the receipt that you get after second injection. Ontario government was nice enough to leave a large, static space for your name, dob, health number etc so anybody’s details can easily fit in the spot on the pdf you show to the hostess on your phone. There are a few other blue collar purebloods working in my company’s shop and none of them have had any problems.

Gyms are only required to check once and then record in their system that they’ve seen it. No copy is kept, they’re just covering their ass. The based ones just added that to people’s membership info anyway.

notglowing says:

In Italy there have been protests because since the 15th all workers, even those self employed, need to show a covid pass in order to access their place of work, or face suspended pay.

You can get one by testing every 48 hours.

I actually have an interesting whitepill.
I recently had dinner with a childhood friend, whose family is part of the local elite and has connections.
He soon started telling me about his side effects from the vaccine, and how the rest of his family didn’t take it. He has to do errands for his father in his place.
They all had covid, grandma died (but she was on the brink of death already) and the rest survived, that was before. So they are still more worried about the vaccine than the virus.
But the interesting thing is that apparently the Marshal of our local Carabinieri force did not take it either, he is forced to just take a test every 48H and has been doing so for over a month.
The Marshal apparently thinks that the vaccine is a ploy to reduce the world population by the elite.

The Carabinieri are a branch of the military, and they act as our regular police basically. They’re also the military police, at the same time. Their stations are legally military bases.
The Marshal is the local chief, which makes him like a police chief.
I don’t know if he’s still testing but I hope so. I feel bad for him, having to do that and being in that situation. I’m pessimistic about people like that resisting for long with all the pressure but maybe I’m just being unfair towards him and pessimistic.

Restaurant owners including some of my friends are the most pro vaxx, they have been devastated by the inability to conduct business for almost a year and a half, with only a couple months of reprieve in that time.

I have not yet been asked for the pass anywhere, but I have also avoided places where it is required. It’s not required for outside seating in restaurants.
I’ve found a loophole that lets me take the test with minimal inconvenience to myself and at any time, but I will not detail that here.
Normally, getting the test is pretty annoying.
First off, there’s no free testing for this.
Second, in my city no one actually offers testing at any time, and without reservation.
There’s just two options, the pharmacy and the hospital
The hospital doesn’t require reservation, but is only available during one hour of the day.
And you need to wait for 40 minutes to get your results, walk inside and pick them up.
The pharmacy is faster, but it requires reservation on the day before, and they don’t let you choose the time.
Workers who have to do this every two days have been reserving the tests for the entire rest of the year in advance, so reservations can be difficult now.

ExileStyle says:

Any links for the curious containing an example/template of this? German links are fine, am fluent.

Karl says:

Example/template of what?

ExileStyle says:

A forged or forgeable vaccination pass.

Karl says:

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impfausweis

Yellow documents shown in the above link.

Yul Bornhold says:

The Cathedral has found a way to make consent even more gay:

https://twitter.com/GovernorTomWolf/status/1450146828360589317

jim says:

It can only get gayer, until she is required to bop you over the head with her club and drag you off to her lair.

Observe how racial equality between blacks and whites has been escalated to whites bowing before blacks, the right of blacks to assault whites, and denial of the right of self defense to whites.

Alfred says:

and denial of the right of self defense to whites.

I’ve been trying to think of a way to deal with this. I carry a gun, but clearly using a gun to defense yourself is going to get you locked up for a long time unless the nignog also has a gun and they know it. I need an easy to carry blunt weapon that’s generally legal to have to qualify for self-defenses.

Pooch says:

The guns aren’t needed now. They are going to be needed when the state ceases to matter.

Pooch says:

In terms of actionable advice, situational awareness is the best defense. Hostile negros give off a hostile vibe which is easy to detect once you see it enough. Avoid situations where you’d be at risk in close quarters with possible hostiles at all costs. If something is off just leave. Also, they tend to go after easy prey. Insane nigs tend to prey on the weak, the old, and the clueless specifically so looking strong by lifting weights and showing good situational awareness is usually a good enough deterrent.

Alfred says:

Also, they tend to go after easy prey.

Everyone is easy prey when it’s legal for them to beat you up and illegal for you to fight back using effective weapons.

Karl says:

No, some people readily commit crimes, even the the crime of selfdefense.

jim says:

Flashlight with two 26650 batteries.

By a strange coincidence all such flashlights are also heavy, hard, and strong at the business end. Funny thing that.

Edward H. McNamara says:

Maglites are made in three colors: Carbon Black, Vibrant Red and Malice Green.

Upravda says:

Comments are hillarious. 🙂

Old Romans supposedly had proverb “The more corrupt the state is, the more laws it proclaims”. What would *do* all that governmental institutions:
– agency for education
– state ombudsman for equality of sexes
– ministry for ore research and time wasting 🙂
– etc. about 180 of them

(In Croatia, universities are not *yet* monasteries to be dissolved. Governmental institutions and all those “citizen’s associations” funded from state budget certainly are.)

What would they do if not for omnipresent criminals in society in need to be brought to justice or, even better, to re-education.

However, regarding sexual questions, you colonial Anglos (North America & Down Under) seem to be the most crazy. Totally of the hook. 🙂 I mean, c’mon, your politicians are the only one who actually say that banging should go like: “Very respected owner of the vagina, not implying your gender, can I put my penis into your vagina in order to eventually achieve mutual satisfaction?”

Who votes for those? 🙂

Cancel says:

What Oz politician said that?

Upravda says:

Tom Wolfe? 🙂

Yes, yes, he did not say it in those words, but even semi literate goat keeper would unmistakably interpret his words exactly as I did.

Cancel says:

He’s a yank. You obviously know nothing about Oz, so why talk about it?

jim says:

> “The more corrupt the state is, the more laws it proclaims”.

Corruption means instead of one stationary bandit, the supposed servants of the sovereign are a horde of mobile bandits, that the state is losing its corporate character.

So, they want lots of laws, which they can enforce arbitrarily and capriciously – as we are now seeing at the SpaceX hearings.

Upravda says:

Regarding one of your upper comments…
I do not expect madness to end any time soon, and probably no one of your readers. However, it might happen that Branch Covidians loses its edge and gets replaced by something else. How would it benefit the ordinary Joe is another question, however. Facehuggers and clot shots might be replaced by… something worse. Any idea what?

Regarding this comment…
Right now, can USA even launch *manned* space mission? Or is it only in reach of Russians and Chinese? And, regarding Mr. Musk’s enterprise, it’s obvious that it’s over. Putting aside everything else, and despite me not being an American, it saddens me a lot because it means the end of the American space program. So, The Right Stuff and a lot of other things we looked up as kids is going to smoke.

Pooch says:

Facehuggers and clot shots might be replaced by… something worse. Any idea what?

Impossible to predict. What happens is something comes along that the regime arbitrarily deems an existential crisis and delegates all decision-making about said “crisis” to a faction of priests who than proceed to out-holy each other for status and away the holiness-spiral goes. Where? Who the hell knows.

Anon says:

Following up with uni covid exemptions RE “NeedItForSchool”. Curiously, I got several reports back. The individual I advised to use a tweaked version of The Ortho Defense said it worked. Some high school classmates of his that ended up going to different unis said there was no need to provide an explanation at all and simply requesting a religious exemption was sufficient, with caveats. No need to go into detail about what those caveats are

Well? Just lie and see what happens: the original advice. If you’re not clever enough to do that right, good luck

Anon says:

If you’re able and/or willing to say I would appreciate the cavaets in case I need to go this route in school or work or some other aspect of life. I know its specific to schools/unis but still would appreciate it as I might have to go to uni/ get a degree in the near future.

Anon says:

The caveats vary wildly from region to region and school to school, enough to specifically identify which school I was talking about were I to post it. You’re asking me to help you dox people: the answer is of course “No”

I’ve already commented on what I thought was going to happen with people trying to dodge vax mandates. If you “need to go this route in school or work or some other aspect of life” and you can’t figure it out yourself then you shouldn’t be at university, like most of the other people there. I only researched it to help out someone I knew. I don’t know you

On that topic, I’m entirely unimpressed with every single argument I’ve heard against getting the vaccine, including the people I was trying to help. That I don’t care how many fat or old or immunocompromised people not immediately related to me die – especially in the West – should be sufficient, but I then again you can’t post that on social media

Leon says:

How are individual American states or areas (midwest, south, etc) going to fair the coming years?

I used to think the intermountain states would do great and be a great place to prepare. However, Colorado has become a left wing craphole with Denver being a left wing city and expensive thanks to progressive whites. Idaho has had massive growth and housing prices have doubled in the last few years. Wyoming, Montana and the Dakotas have all had growth and housing costs increased as well. New Yorkers and Californians have been moving to these states and driving up costs. Certain southern and midwest states are now cheaper overall.

Texas and Florida have been hailed as promised lands by conservatives, but demographics are destiny. Not sure how the south will fair.

Pooch says:

Same rule applies for the western states as anywhere else in the US. You want to be in the red the exurbs, small towns, and rural areas (but with some neighbors) outside of the cities in the collapsing American Empire. These places are generally cheaper because there are no shitlibs there to drive up costs (even in Colorado). Shitlibs are mostly flooding the cities and suburbs of all the places you mentioned. They generally aren’t going to the country areas. Overall party of the state doesn’t matter too much because state governments are no longer going to matter too much as the collapse intensifies.

That said, the demographics of Colorado, Idaho, Montana, Nebraska, etc are among the best in the country so global South Africa may not come there quite as severely. They are good places to be. Global South Africa has already arrived for many places in the South and east coast. However, they are still increasingly getting tons of spics in the mountain states so a Venezuela eventuality is still likely.

As we devolve into a barely functioning third world country you want to keep in mind that not only is it man vs man, but will also be a return to man vs nature. if you move to a cold climate, heating your home for the winter without any functioning or intermittent utilities is going to take more competency.

pyrrhus says:

Yes, when the energy delivery systems, including the electric grid, start breaking down, the appeal of living in a warm weather State will become apparent..If you’re going to live in a cold State, you should own a good wood stove and have access to fuel for it…

Varna says:

Some here we discussing going to south-east Europe, and one user even settled on Bulgaria, which is in general an excellent choice.

However, as of tomorrow midnight, Bulgaria is shifting to a vax pass system.
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/bulgaria-makes-covid-health-pass-obligatory-leisure-activities-2021-10-19/

So, yeah, no. It’s 80% unvaxed, but the govt went for it anyway.

Things are moving fast in many places, so if going to a cheap quiet place–perhaps better the invisible ones outside the EU like Macedonia, Albania, and Montenegro.

Inside the globohomo citadel things are kinda unpredictable.

Italianon says:

Where would you recommend to go instead?

Upravda says:
Italianon says:

Since last Friday, Italy has a vaxx pass on all working, including working from home. Obviously, most or all of the EU will be like this soon, but Italy is especially bad for now. What should someone who finds themselves in Italy do? Or should they pack up and leave, and if so to where?

Pooch says:

What about negative test?

C4ssidy says:

Depends on the politics of the country. The east is great, and many countries there are not caring about the vaxx. U.K. is being moderate. Also Scandinavia including Denmark apparently do not care too much

Arqiduka says:

As mentioned by others, plenty of reasonable jurisdictions within the EU, to where one would incur minimal costs to move. One can come back in an afternoon from Denmark to Italy when the madness ends.

jim says:

Supposing the madness is going to end – meaning return to the levels of evil and madness of a few years ago, is normality bias. Every year the new abnormal gets replaced by the newer even more abnormal.

Expecting a return to the previous normal is like reacting to a burst of inflation by deciding “Prices are too high. I will save my money and wait for prices to drop back to normal.”

Pooch says:

Is it right to assume the supply and production of large complex items like cars and boats will continue to decrease as the West loses the ability to create them?

If so, the earlier the better than to purchase them? Even though there is uncertainty in the supply chain, being thrifty and waiting to purchase big ticket items is actually not ideal for the foreseeable future?

jim says:

That is happening slowly.

Wave of madness and the collapse of social institutions like fiat money are happening fast.

The Original OC says:

If you believe that prediction, you don’t want a modern car that uses 10,000 computers to reduce emissions by 2% and cannot work if 1 of the 10,000 computers breaks.

You want to buy an old car you can work on by hand. Or a motorcycle.

Varna says:

Derailing is possible in theory. Like we see in Russia toward the start and end of the 20th century.

First while tsarists and anti-tsarist liberals and social democrats were duking it out who gets to decide the future–the tiny Bolshevik party wedged itself into the situation and pulled a full-blown Taliban takeover on them.

The later, as Gorbachyov’s reformers and GKCHP hardliners were struggling who gets to decide the future–Yeltsin and his peeps met up and officially disbanded the USSR as such. Totally unexpected move that kicked the stool from under both of the other two big players, destroying the prize they were fighting over.

It seems to me there will be a number of similar windows of opportunities in Europe and North America in the coming 1-2 years. Starting this winter, then the summer of 2022, and then again the cold months. Moments in which the current controlled global crisis spins out of control for a bit, before being reined in again. These are the openings.

Like with the Bolsheviks and with Yeltsin, it has to be something completely unexpected and outside the gameplan. A way to overturn the table in a way that until that instant was utterly outside the attention of the big factions playing their games.

jim says:

Such derailings are not unexpected. Always happen. Completely predictable. Failure to predict them is normality bias.

The Tsarist and ant Tsarist liberals should have realized that they were predictably and inevitably going to meet the same fate as the their French Revolutionary equivalents. The Reformers and Hardliners should have realized they were fighting over the corpse of a dead state religion, that the basis of the power they were fighting over had vanished underneath them.

Starman says:

@Varna

“First while tsarists and anti-tsarist liberals and social democrats were duking it out who gets to decide the future–the tiny Bolshevik party wedged itself into the situation and pulled a full-blown Taliban takeover on them.

The later, as Gorbachyov’s reformers and GKCHP hardliners were struggling who gets to decide the future–Yeltsin and his peeps met up and officially disbanded the USSR as such. Totally unexpected move that kicked the stool from under both of the other two big players, destroying the prize they were fighting over.”

And that’s why I still occasionally come here for good gems like this among the Pissobiec and disguised Q posts.

Think of the “left-right” spectrum. It’s obviously not about your right hand vs your left hand. Nor is it about the left side of your face vs its right side. The “Left” is illegitimate because of empty shelves, antagonizing its own security forces, etc. And the “Right” is illegitimate because they cannot (or will not) physically stop the “Left” from doing those things.

Ask multiple men on the street who pay attention to politics, to try to place the Taliban as “right wing” or “left wing.” Think of people or entities who don’t quite fit on that artificial spectrum. He/it is embraced by left-wingers and right-wingers… and also he/it is detracted by left-wingers as “right wing” while being detracted by right-wingers as “left wing.”

Pooch says:

Left and Right are only meaningful terms in a democracy. Outside of that context, they are totally arbitrary and meaningless.

jim says:

Not true.

The left was quite recognizable in pharaonic Egypt, and looked distinctly modern in the eleventh century caliphate.

The left during the English civil war looked remarkably like the nineteen fifties anglosphere “super protestant” left, and the left that gave Cromwell a hard time and which he eventually had to crush looked awfully like the late nineteenth century left, and a faction of the nineteen sixties left took the name of a faction of the sixteen fifties left that they strikingly resembled.

The word “left” comes from a faction of the revolutionary French Assembly, which faction was primarily responsible for the overthrow of King Louis the sixteenth, and had continuity of doctrine, organization, and personnel going back to the fourteenth century false popes of Avignon. However, it has no continuity of doctrine, organization, and personnel with the modern left, which instead has continuity of doctrine, organization, and personnel with the Brownist faction that successfully engaged in entryism against the Church of England, leading to the English Civil War in 1642. The Avignon descended faction died under Napoleon, as communism died under Stalin, leaving behind a zombie communist faith that governed till someone gave it a hard poke, whereupon it crumbled to dust.

The Brownists were obviously leftists, but scarcely recognizable as modern leftists, and you could plausibly argue I am stretching the term “left”. However their numerous mutant heretical offspring who gave Cromwell a hard time in the sixteen fifties had among them numerous factions that were entirely recognizable as the twentieth century anglosphere left.

Karl says:

After a while all holiness spirals look very similar, regardless where they started.

The left is always on the leading edge of the holiness spiral, the right is trailing behind

Alfred says:

The left is always on the leading edge of the holiness spiral, the right is trailing behind

The left is about short term gains through power. The right is about long term gains through power where the fruits of those gains my not even be collected until their children or grandchildren’s days.

Rightist will build nuclear power plants because such power will make everyone richer for decades down the road. Leftists will shutdown down nuclear power so they can loot the public till with green energy companies that quickly fail.

Socialism vs Capitalism is the same dynamic. Capitalist Markets long term create more and more wealth but limits the amount of wealth those in power in extract at any given time. Socialism greatly increases the amount of wealth that can be extracted but at the cost of less wealth being produced next year.

Dave says:

All societies have left and right factions jostling for power. To distinguish them, one must understand that left and right are directions, not fixed positions, and that war favors right factions while peace favors left factions.

It’s a one-dimensional spectrum because there is no third force, of a magnitude comparable to war and peace, that might pull things in a third direction.

Afghanistan has been at war almost constantly for the last fifty years, so no surprise that it’s so far right today. When the Western social order breaks down, Christianity will become more right-wing than Islam or be crushed by Islam. Christians of the Levant failed this test, but Charles Martel passed it just fine.

Wulfgar Thundercock III says:

Right wing and left wing only work inside a recently collapsed order. The monarchists and the rebels. Outside of that, it does not properly map. With the situation in Afghanistan being what it is, right wing does work for the Taliban. The forces of order and reality facing against the forces of chaos and insanity. Two sides: the Taliban and the US, and the Taliban won by force of arms. Which force of arms they had because of the force of their faith, which is the reason America fled the field. The US not have a left and a right, just two forces of chaos and disorder. In that sense, some third party has to arise in order to provide an alternative.

A better conception of politics is a funnel. There is an unstable equilibrium at the lip of the funnel that requires plenty of effort to circle. Then there are an infinite number of points where you can begin your descent, but it all ends up at the bottom, circling the drain. “Right” is trying to keep the civilization at the top of the funnel. Once you push it off, you are “left.”

The Cominator says:

I enjoyed their humiliation of the regime but NEVER get the idea that Islamics are your friends.

Its another bad universal religion.

notglowing says:

Perhaps, but the madness has hardly stayed exactly the same for too long, they will find something else to spiral about. Going further in this direction is more and more difficult, and they’ve already had their impact and reaction to it.
Salvini managed to get a small concession in the last laws, that those who get a PCR test can do it every 3 days instead of every two, because doing it 3 times a week was unreasonable for workers. That’s a very small whitepill since he was at least able to argue from the frame of people being able to work despite the pass.

At least I hope so. I have a source of income that cannot be affected directly by the state, and I don’t need to go anywhere strictly speaking. But it’s going to be an issue for my academic career which I am not yet willing to give up on, I still want to get a Bachelor’s. So long as tests are viable, I won’t be affected.

However I will say that the current state has weighed on me psychologically. Having to constantly think of all the stuff I am restricted from if I don’t have a pass, having to decline invitations from friends because I was not allowed in, it makes you want to just shut yourself in your home and try to ignore everything outside. But that’s damaging to my mind in itself.

Arqiduka says:

Understand what you say, but I wouldn’t go all in.

UI reckon there’s a 50% chance that Covid madness will ratchet up, a 35% chance it will stabilise at post-jab levels, and a 15% chance that people will dial it way down to pivot to climate (already happening in NSW, it may be early days still). I wouldn’t advise a guy to drop his home country and disappear to India if there’s a 15% chance he may get a chance to come back.

Cloudswrest says:
jim says:

The opponents were speaking from a script, and arstechnica links to the script.

The point of the script is not to stop spaceX altogether, but to engage more and more bureaucrats each of whom can introduce some additional obstruction – to share the loot around. When one bunch of bureaucrats are getting a substantial payoff to get out of the way, another bunch of bureaucrats send in some shills to demand their cut of the action.

Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WX-VPZDJYAU

The funny thing about clickbait videos like this is, not so much the contents exactly, but the fact that they betray how the ‘average everyday’ perception of bureaucrats is as entities that exist only for making it difficult for people to do things.

Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

That is to say, the way that a normie relates to them is not as ‘fellow neighbors and citizens’, but as *enemies one needs to defeat*.

Varna says:

Certain immigrant developments piling up in Russia:
1. Uzbek migrant workers to be imported in compact chunks to work in poultry production
https://www.kommersant.ru/doc/5040363
2. A million hectares to be leased to Uzbekistan as farmland
https://www.gazeta.ru/business/news/2021/10/07/n_16650331.shtml?updated
3. Amnesty of hundreds of thousands of Uzbek and Tajik migrants, to be allowed back into Russia. https://vz.ru/society/2021/10/14/1123948.html

According to some this is a policy correction after the cops were previously given the right to use their judgement (Judge Dredd style, without courts, appeals etc) to kick out migrants out of the country for infractions, and instead of the expected couple of hundred thousands, the cops kicked out 3.5 million.

And now a shortage of working hands is alleged.

Kunning Drueger says:

Related news:

Uzbekistan is the ingress point for UN aid for Talibanistan.

Uzbekistan gives a hard No to US overtures regarding basing US assets for striking Taliban “terrorists.”

So Russia could be playing quid pro quo politics with Uzbek government to stymie US intentions and/or counter Globohomo influence. UN missions bleed money. So much corruption, grift, and waste. Local governments fall for the shekels in the short term and pay the toll in the long term. I still think Uzbekistan is a dark horse contender for the rebirth of the Neo-Horde, a reintroduction of a steppe based force of reavers and pillagers. They are well insulated from any superpower’s conventional forces as well as naval punishment. They are so far out of Western consciousness that they could go very far down the path of anti-Globohomo monarchism before the wailing womynz would notice. But so long as Ivan the Bear continues to employ Stalinist divisive “support” in the region, this is a pipe dream. But the Bear is sick, and if it continues to fall apart, who knows…

yewotm8 says:

The whole area certainly is based enough to pull off something. I’m sure this has probably been shared here before but I haven’t seen it in the comments: https://youtu.be/DKAusMNTNnk

Funnily enough I remember discussing the video with female family members many years ago and they thought the idea of kidnapping as “marriage proposal” was quite charming. I’m fairly surprised it’s still up in its current form, with all of the bride’s family and the bride herself being happy with the situation.

Pooch says:

So looks like Trump is not out of the woods quite yet and Jim’s prediction of Trump’s arrest may yet still come true. Seems like a considerable faction of the elites still have TDS and will just not be content until Trump is behind bars.

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/577515-cheney-bannon-refusal-to-cooperate-suggests-trump-personally-involved-in

Oog en Hand says:

Better a bad king(Biden) than a good president(Trump)?

Alfred says:

Sounds like the leftist infighting is over for now and they’re returning to their normal program of human sacrifice to the COVID demon and working to murder Trump and his supporters.

Pooch says:

Looks like it. Doesn’t seem like the McCarthy faction of leftists want to outright arrest/kill him, at least yet. They want to keep him around to subsume his political movement first and where it around as a skinsuit to further their own personal grift and power.

alf says:

Devil’s advocate: what are the opinions on this take — https://gab.com/JohnRivers/posts/107130113711040195

Shill or nuanced take? The media narrative is that 90% of COVID-hospitalised are unvaccinated.

Pooch says:

Well I think the biggest criticism would be that data from the CDC, being part of the regime, is hard to trust.

Having said that, I do believe this is an appropriate Moldbugian nuanced take to at least consider and not a shill take. As Yarvin has stated, we know the Cathedral lies and we can assume that everything they say is a total lie, but the right often falls into the trap of reflexively assuming the opposite of the official Cathedral line is the total truth. The actual truth may lie somewhere between the two poles.

If Trump had won, the holiness-spiral could just have easily gone in the opposite direction and leftists were indeed prepping the narrative that the “Trump vaccine” is dangerous. Kamala even said she may not trust it the debate against Pence. In that scenario, it’s easy to imagine an anti-vax holiness spiral with the FDA denying Trump’s vaccine to the thunderous applause of the media. Maybe the holiness-spiral would have gone further into lockdown madness or some other craziness. It’s kind of arbitrary where it heads.

Cloudswrest says:

Local data for Santa Clara Co. showed that the infection RATE for vaxed was about 10% the infection RATE for unvaxed, although both were low as a percentage of the total population.

jim says:

Perhaps, quite possibly. But politically correct data is frequently fabricated. We just don’t know.

alf says:

They’re being paid to lie, no one is paying us to speak the truth.

jim says:

We know that deaths from China flu are enormous exaggerated (from the mysterious decline in deaths from all other causes whenever deaths from China flu rise significantly)

If an unvaccinated gets run over by a truck, bits of him spatter all over the road and they take his nose to hospital and it swabs positive for China flu, he died of China flu.

I am not making this up. Policy is that all deaths within 28 days of swabbing positive for China flu are corona virus deaths, not matter if you swabbed negative three week before you fell from a skyscraper, if you also swabbed positive four weeks before you fell, it is a corona virus death. This is not hyperbole. This is official statistics.

No one dies of China flu. They die with China flu and something else. So, in order to know what this alleged statistic means, you have to know how deaths of the vaccinated were attributed to China flu, and how deaths of the unvaccinated were attributed to China flu. Were deaths of the vaccinated attributed to china flu in same rigid and absolutely indiscriminate manner that deaths of the vaccinated are attributed?

Which we we do not know, and attempts to find out will result in hostility, deplatforming, cancellation, demonetization and violence.

https://www.redvoicemedia.com/2021/10/whistleblower-physician-assistant-says-ny-hospital-admissions-were-90-vaccinated-not-being-reported-to-vaers

Javier says:

Every time someone dies from covid you can trace back the treatment history and find the point where they were given full body paralytics (which nuke the immune system) and remdesivir (which destroys your liver) before ventilating them, then they die weeks or months later after an enormous amount of horrific medical torture. Yet they want to say the minor lung infection killed them.

Meanwhile vaccinated people randomly expire for no reason, rapidly going from healthy to dead in an alarming amount of time. Happened to a cousin of mine; got the shot, felt fine for a little while, stayed home from work with a headache, dead the next day. Yet no one is allowed to draw conclusions form that.

Alfred says:

Meanwhile vaccinated people randomly expire for no reason, rapidly going from healthy to dead in an alarming amount of time. Happened to a cousin of mine; got the shot, felt fine for a little while, stayed home from work with a headache, dead the next day. Yet no one is allowed to draw conclusions form that.

A good friend of mine just went through surgery for a blockage that caused a heart attack. He is 39, in great health but 6 months ago he got the clotshot. The second shot really fucked him up but he seemed to be doing ok a few weeks later. 39 is pretty young for that short of shit especially in someone who’s good physical condition who doesn’t have diabetes.

The Cominator says:

“but the right often falls into the trap of reflexively assuming the opposite of the official Cathedral line is the total truth.”

Its best to assume they are completely lying and then from that set of assumptions work backwords and find out if for once they told the truth.

I called China flu as an exageratted hoax early on using that approach while Moldbug got it wrong.

Am I as smart as Moldbug, no not nearly. I’m above average IQ but more the highest level of midwit tier… but Moldbug has too much sympathy for the Brahminate (BAP called him out on this) and really doesn’t see them in a sinister enough light still.

Javier says:

It’s all bullshit. The graph doesn’t even make sense. “Cases or deaths” those are very different things.

Vietnam had 0 covid until they started injecting people. Then Bam, “delta variant.” It’s all ADE and vax side effects but no one is allowed to notice it.

Varna says:

Factchecking debunkers will pounce on the “ADE” thing and try to use this as proof this is all unfounded paranoia.

It really isn’t ADE yet, at least not massively. What it is, is segments of the population having their immune system conk out even before the 3rd or 4th boosters that finish it off for the majority.

Mechanical AIDS without the need for HIV beforehand, just crude burning out of the natural antibody production system. As I’ve mentioned before, Soviet experiments with animals between 1968 and 1974 illustrated that regular trad vax boosters kill the natural immune system of most guinea pigs by the fourth boost.

With the harsher clotshots, segments of the population likely start getting similar effects earlier.

England is already hit by a “super flu” right now, which affects the vaxed, as is Israel. Ironically, both England and Israel have also just discovered a “new strain of COVID” which is six gorillion times more infectious than the “delta”.

jim says:

> Ironically, both England and Israel have also just discovered a “new strain of COVID” which is six gorillion times more infectious than the “delta”.

Sound like the Marek effect may be biting.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4516275/

MDV became increasingly virulent over the second half of the 20th century [19,21–24]. Until the 1950s, strains of MDV circulating on poultry farms caused a mildly paralytic disease, with lesions largely restricted to peripheral nervous tissue. Death was relatively rare. Today, hyperpathogenic strains are present worldwide. These strains induce lymphomas in a wide range of organs and mortality rates of up to 100% in unvaccinated birds.

http://epidemics.psu.edu/articles/view/leaky-vaccines-promote-the-transmission-of-more-virulent-virus

Alfred says:

> Sounds like the Marek effect may be biting.

That would explain the endless blather about the unvaccinated killing the vaccinated. It’s the other way around.

Varna says:

Creeping AIDS for the booster riders, creeping Marek for the purebloods, what’s not to love?

Ideally every surviving biodegradable unit (falsely called by conspiracy theorists “a citizen”) will need a pill an hour in order to survive.
Better yet implanted tech that provides a constant stream of RNA and DNA “meds”.

Saw an article about the mysterious reasons people aren’t getting jobs.
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/10/20/6-reasons-why-americans-arent-returning-to-work.html

A masterclass of how to dance around a forbidden topic until you shroud it completely with bullshit. In this case the invisible topic being “people don’t want your work because it comes with a vax mandate, bitch”.

Upravda says:

Can you write (again?) a source links or other material for Soviet experiments, “super flu” and “new strain of Covid”? No need to be in English.

Pretty please, because among my near and dear people I’m in the middle of probably futile Crusade against third clot shot which our beloved government okayed recently (although only for those of “weak health”, “immunocompromised” and their household members).

Varna says:

Not gonna work I think, because it’s always circumstantial stuff which “may or may not be true”. Only really convincing to people whose instincts are already screaming at them.

Vid https://anonfiles.com/b5S8v6P7u8/Soviet_vax_mp4

Summary of a few concepts
https://www.nakanune.ru/articles/117607/

Russian immunologist quoted today by the biggest mainstream, carefully saying that too frequent boosting leads to “immunity paralysis” and thus totally not closer together than six months, preferably once a year.
https://www.vesti.ru/article/2629187
https://rg.ru/2021/10/21/reg-urfo/immunolog-chastaia-revakcinacii-vyzovet-immunologicheskij-paralich.html

Simple explanation how AIDS overloads the immune system https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn9791-how-hiv-burns-out-the-human-immune-system/

My elderly mom is getting the booster so I feel you. But after a certain point it’s people’s free will.

Belarus doctors hypothesize today that getting infected with COVID-19 can help people get LESS cancer.
https://tsargrad.tv/news/belorusskie-vrachi-schitajut-chto-covid-19-mozhet-lechit-onkologiju_434611

A few months back I ran into Russian online discussion (can’t find), where they swapped stories of people who instead of feeling like crap after COVID, started feeling better, smarter, more energetic. The users hypothesized that perhaps COVID was to an extent an unfinished leaked experiment to do with a general reset of the nervous, endocrine, and cognitive system of humans, and that those who are lucky genetically experienced the beneficial effects as opposed to brain fog, neurodegenerational crap etc.

Maybe good genes combined with not being a fat sack of lard with twenty chronic conditions help get the “benefits” more than the negatives.

I do know one guy who claims he became better at a number of things (from composing to stocks) after going through a medium-bad covid flu thing with his family a few months back.

Just always remember to remind loved ones who choose the jab that the first fortnight afterward is a lowered immunity risk period and no matter how much they believe in the protection, the first 14 days is when they should REALLY self-isolate and protect themselves in various ways.

Upravda says:

Thank you.

Even the first link (https://www.vesti.ru/article/2629187) is enough to raise the eyebrows, specifically Mr. ÄŒereÅ¡njev’s words who also seems to mention in passing old Soviet experiments with revaccination you talked about:
“Чем грозит частая вакцинация? Это тоже *установлено классиками* – развивается иммунологический паралич”

Domain is held by at least somewhat veracious entity (Federal State Unitary Enterprise “The Russian Television and Radio Broadcasting Company”), and Mr. ÄŒereÅ¡njev does exist and he is what the linked article claims him to be.

(BTW, funny surname 🙂 )

Same man, similar article, on other link (rg.ru) of similar veracity.

I see, Belarussian doctors are into really interesting theories. “What doesn’t kill you, makes you stonger” I suppose. I’ve already read about HIV in New Scientist, I even have the article in favorites.

The last link is real eye-opener because it is quite detailed in “popular science” sense of the word. Detailed, but you do not have to be medical doctor to follow it. I suggest everyone to read it – and yes, translation services actually can make some decent work of translation. There is nice conclusion in last two paragraphs.

Varna says:

Very glad online translate works and that you enjoyed the material.

Here are two more: longer and wackier, to top up the initial stuff.

One is an interview (Sept 2021) with a famous red-pilled futurologist https://www.fontanka.ru/2021/01/07/69670446/

The other is a longer ever-updated (summer of 2021) article on the habr platform which is still surprisingly pro free speech
https://habr.com/ru/post/564356/

Difficult to agree with everything said by these two chaps, but the very act of reading and forcing the brain to examine events from different perspectives is enjoyable cognitive gymnastics.

Have fun!

SJE says:

***having their immune system conk out***

Can anyone explain what the mechanism of this is supposed to be? Physiologically, how does the “vaxx” accomplish this.

I’m not doubting that they could/would do this, it’s just, I am a doctor and have not seen an explanation for how this actually works.

jim says:

Vaccination is a strong and unnatural stimulus, that provokes a strong and unnatural response.

China flu vaccination is a stronger and and even more unnatural stimulus.

When your system reacts to disease, it gets stressed. When any body system is subjected to sufficient stress, it is likely to cause harm, Unnatural stress is more likely to cause harm, while if your body is not too damaged by the natural stress, it will be stronger after recovering from the temporary damage.

On this theory, a live virus vaccine based on one of China Flu’s many, many, harmless relatives, or a genetically knackered version of china flu, which is applied through the natural route (sniffed up in a spray), should be quite safe, being a natural stimulus.

That was the basis of our first, greatest and most totally successful vaccine, the smallpox vaccine – cowpox (variola) being applied to the skin through mechanisms similar to wild smallpox and wild cowpox, not injected into a muscle.

The fact that we are no longer using this approach (it is not even legal any more except for an ever diminishing set of grandfathered in vaccines) represents technological decline.

The main reason for banning it seems to be that unnatural vaccines are easier to develop, big money wants new vaccines that are still under patent, and the priesthood takes a very substantial percentage of the action from big money, so agreeably concocts, after the style of Catastrophic Anthropogenic Climate Change, transparently bogus and blatantly fake reasons why older out of patent vaccines are a bad idea.

Unnatural vaccines are in a sense lower tech, even though developing them and manufacturing them is high tech compared to the old type live virus vaccines, in that finding a safe relative that gives effective cross immunity is difficult, and requires an extended trusting and trustworthy scientific community, which no longer exists.

Varna says:

The more the informational environment becomes a cloud of closely curated monopolist propaganda with tiny pockets of chaotic madness, the more rational autonomous citizens need to take a step back and anchor themselves the way the ancient Greeks did–through the simple building block of logic and analogy, via the use of, whenever possible, defined categories and concepts.

In the case of the endless booster cycle that overproduces antibodies every X months we can use two analogies:

1) Forcing through regular doses of meth or cocaine the human body to constantly burn through its energy reserves, until finally there are none left.
2) Forcing soil to overproduce constantly, until it becomes dead soil.

The exact opposite of “sustainable use” or “sustainable development”.

This is combined with the banal “narrow focus hubris” of the type when holy scientists decide they have figured out the “important elements you need in food” or “the only really important part of the sleep cycle” or “the only important part of what makes breastmilk nutritious”.

And then they make food which is missing half its important ingredients which are outside their focus, and they shift sleeping cycles to modes that lead to psychosis, and they produce baby formula which gradually starves infants and so on.

The third is the substitution fallacy “our margarine is even healthier for you than butter”.

The pharma lobby today can produce thousands of experts funded by billions of dollars to create a cloud of bullshit with lots of tech jargon. But we take a step back from that cloud and break down the situation the way an ancient Greek would have.

And this is what we get:

1) The narrow focus fallacy is in play with the clotshots. If virus X is made up of 10 components, the clotshot delivers 1 (the “only really important one”), while the trad vax delivers all 10.
Thus, when the virus starts to change over time, the trad vax immunity works until all 10 components have changed beyond recognition. The fancy clotshot stops working the moment the single protein changes form.

2) The “aggressive exploitation of inner resources/soil” fallacy, where the corporation provides super convincing charts how they can keep giving you meth forever and you’ll remain energetic and smart forever with no payback time ever. Here even with the trad vax you still get the “exhausted soil”/”crashed adrenal glands” equivalent for the immune system after enough boosters. Especially if close together.

3) The “margarine is butter” fallacy where synthesized imitations of the virus components are “just like the real thing” and will totally not rip up your vascular system from the inside.

Lastly, airborne respiratory viruses should be introduced through the nasal mucus membrane in order to start the defense cycle properly and activate all consecutive levels of the body’s defense cascade, instead of directly going into the muscle.

And, of course, suppressed research shows that not infrequently the spike protein enters the bloodstream after injection, instead of staying in the muscle, and starts circulating, and this is not unlike injecting margarine directly into the intestines, bypassing the filtering process of the mouth saliva, and overall gastric breakdown of the ingested product.

Over the last decades checks and balances have been dismantled aggressively across the board, and we see the result now with the covid business. Imagine a ten-step process from conceiving the clotshot to implementing it to making it mandatory.

40 years ago someone would have said “now hang on” at the experimental stage.
30 years ago someone would have said “now hang on” once the serum was out in the world, being examined by other scientists.
20 years ago after the first wave of reactions someone would have said “now hang on”.
10 years ago a courageous journalist or rogue scientist would have presented his findings and said “now hang on” and the big progressive media would have hailed him as a hero.

Today there is no one left to say this and be listened to.

Karl says:

“Today there is no one left to say this and be listened to.”

Nah, there are some (perhaps plenty) of scientists that say that the clot shots are harmful. It’s just that they say it either in private only or have no forum outisde some corners of the internet.

In addition, many physicians (at least where I live) simply see there duty ending after counseling their patients. So after a phsyician tells his patients that he recommends against taking the clot shot, he is done.

Why give unpaid advise to people who are not your customers, espially as you make a living by giving paid advise to customers? Not saying that I agree with that position, but I can understand that reasoning

Varna says:

Curious little sentence on page 23 of this new UK govt report:
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1027511/Vaccine-surveillance-report-week-42.pdf

> recent observations from UK Health Security Agency (UKHSA) surveillance data that N antibody levels appear to be lower in individuals who acquire infection following 2 doses of vaccination

Starman says:

@Alf

John Rivers is a confirmed fed shill. After he responded to me, I asked him a Redpill on Women Question.

He refused to answer.

And I suspect that he’s a urbanite fat fuck as well.

alf says:

Yeah I remember having a similar exchange a while ago. Into the shill category he goes.

Starman says:

Once I started making every single one of my replies to John Rivers have a WQ at the end, he stopped doing “repost with comment” responses to me. In order to avoid putting a redpill on Women Question on his timeline.

A2 says:

The revolution has begun devouring its own. Is it that time already?

https://quillette.com/2021/10/13/the-implosion-of-bostons-pride-parade-is-a-sign-of-things-to-come/

jim says:

Truly delightful.

The board controlled a lot of wealth and power, so fellow leftists kept coming after their applecart:

The board members also took the extra step of humiliating themselves by noting that they were under the close oversight of minders who might slap them down if they went off-script.

And suddenly, no more applecart, and no more apples. They did to the gay parade what they did to Star Wars, what they are now doing to SpaceX.

Wulfgar Thundercock III says:

Interesting, and timely, that I just saw this.

https://www.spiked-online.com/2021/10/20/have-we-reached-the-high-water-mark-of-woke/

People starting to identify Boston and the Puritans as the ancestors of modern leftist politics. The power behind the throne gain so much of its power from being arcane and occluded. If you can name it, point to it, then you can target it.

Kunning Drueger says:

Then again, if it is being reported on and spread, it could be that the Brain has decided it can twist the narrative to its own ends…

I don’t mean to be unnecessarily pessimistic, but I am certain that if there is any kind of cuckservative reconquista that it will only strengthen the Cathedral, buy them time to consolidate and continue.

A2 says:

Far too soon to get involved, in my opinion. Let them fight for a while.

The cuckservatives seem more intent on a third party to crush the ogre Trump at the moment and, at a guess, there will be no such reconquista neither this time nor the next.

Neurotoxin says:

The Associated Press is now using the phrase “Far-right cryptocurrency” to describe BitCoin:

https://www.usnews.com/news/politics/articles/2021-09-28/far-right-cryptocurrency-follows-ideology-across-borders

The “news story” is being picked up by the Chicago Sun-Times, ABC News, SFGate, etc., etc., …

By the way, whatever you think of Andrew Anglin, the story is a white pill on using cryptocurrencies as part of a strategy to remain below the Deep State’s radar. The entire story is a screech of frustrated rage that the legal system can’t find him.

jim says:

One hell of a white pill.

Note, incidentally, that he is being charged with political offenses. His “victims” are those that claim they were harmed by his thoughts.

Neurotoxin says:

Yeah, it’s amazing that they’re going after cryptocurrency on the pretext that some right-winger hurt someone’s feelings. That’s the best pretext they could come up with? Nothing about the traditional “drug dealers,” “arms dealers,” etc? Any one of us here could write a better boilerplate leftist attack article than this.

Unhinged.

jim says:

These people are not in power. The deep state is in power.

My prediction was that they would devour the deep state in a few months. To my surprise, the deep state has not been devoured.

When this news story appears in the New York Times, you will know that the deep state has been devoured.

Mr.P says:

“Similar to their jihadist counterparts, many of these groups ….”

Hilarious.

notglowing says:

Let’s hope we carry the luck of the Taliban

Alfred says:

Sounds like they’ve finally realized they need to massively increase truckers salaries to get things moving again. The one thing I’m unclear on, if the feds are trying to make the supply chain disruption worse or not. I get conflicting reports on that.

Pooch says:

They are increasingly going after fossil fuel engines. The CA port back up seems to be completely caused by a shortage of climate compliant trucks.

Cloudswrest says:

I read there are two reasons. The first you mentioned. The second is California banned temporary “gig”, (i.e. contract) labor. They have to be hired as *employees* of the company. Many truckers where independent contractors hired by shippers for individual shipments.

Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

It’s both because using ideologically rationalized backstabbing as a coordination mechanism results in a circular firing squad. The left hand bails water out as the right hand bails it back in.

Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

The only way they were able to coordinate is through occulted networks of backroom strongarming, extortion, and blackmail, to keep a line running through an indefinite series of unprincipled exceptions; where every now and then someone on their way up will be taken aside to ‘have a chat’ about how things things work; about how ‘the fundamental ideals of humanism and progress’ square with their form of power, ‘the ways of the world’.

But that network has been breaking down at an ever accelerating rate.

The Cominator says:

Yep this is what is basically going on…

jim says:

> The one thing I’m unclear on, if the feds are trying to make the supply chain disruption worse or not. I get conflicting reports on that

Doubtless both at once. The fedgov always works that way.

Alfred says:

There’s the smoking gun of a fed urging people to go inside the capital the night before J6:

https://twitter.com/Cernovich/status/1451350927059808257

He’s never been charged and he was filmed committing crimes that day.

Pooch says:
Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

>The FBI is a renegade, out of control, criminal organization no different than the Mafia, except it has more power. Your average FBI Agent gets up everyday, suborns perjury, alters official documents (302’s), destroys evidence under subpoena, withholds exculpatory evidence, hides Brady Material, lies under oath to the court, lies under oath to Congress, ignores the 4th amendment and supplies ex nihilo, out of whole cloth, phony evidence then initiates with no predicate, investigations into perceived enemies of the D 卐 M ☭ CRAT party, conduct pre-dawn raids on “dangerous” septuagenarians, illegally leaks classified material to sympathetic press pack dogs who work in support of the D 卐 M ☭ CRAT Imperium, slow rolls subpoenas for FOIA information and lies about the need to classify ever more evidence that the American public should be able to see and that is before 9 o’clock.

Lmfao, that’s the kind of fudd indignation i love to see.

Varna says:

Lukashenko grows a pair?

Like in many other places oy vey the fourth wave is coming, mandatory masks, hospitals closed to most people, how to get people vaccinated…
Suddenly, two weeks in, Lukashenko comes in today and says cut the panic, stop forcing people to wear muzzles (sic), vaccination is a private choice, no one should be forced to wear a mask anywhere except airplanes and trains.
https://ria.ru/20211022/maski-1755732259.html

Health ministry jumps to attention, publishes new guidelines about lack of guidelines. Also sprach Lukashenko.

Belarus is currently 11% jabbed, only with the trad Sinopharm and the Sputnik clotshot.
https://www.pharmaceutical-technology.com/covid-19-vaccination-tracker/

might bugout says:

I’ve heard he has also said 0% tax on crypto transactions for the next few years.

How is Belarus to live?

Varna says:

Looks like this https://www.stena.ee/blog/belorussiya-glazami-narvityanina-2

The basic implicit social contract between Lukashenko and the population from the mid-1990s onward was “create a country where the Soviet perestroika succeeded”. If the USSR had not collapsed but had managed an orderly move toward pretend democracy, pretend capitalism, open borders, well-stocked shops, and a comfier infrastructure, at its best it would look like this.

This social contract is now “being renegotiated” but up until COVID this was the one-sentence explanation of what’s what. A USSR that survived and became flexible and nice. By USSR standards.

The local news is as you would expect–everything is about the dear leader.
https://eng.belta.by/ However, before COVID, borders were open, and Internet censorship–minimal.

Wages are modest but mostly adequate for local prices. Out of 9 million people, 900K went abroad as tourists in the last pre-covid year of 2019
https://eng.belta.by/society/view/belarus-outbound-tourism-up-by-155-in-2019-128664-2020/

The industry of Belarus is to a large extent oriented toward Russia, which as a market absorbs:
Belorussian foods https://belmart.ru/
Belorussian cosmetics https://beloris.ru/country/belorusskaja-kosmetika
Belorussian clothes https://trikotazh.by/en/
Belorussian home electronics https://make-a-choice.ru/belorusskie-televizory-proizvoditeli-marki-brendy-i-otzyvy/
Belorussian tractors, trucks, and sheit https://beltrakt.ru/
https://www.abw.by/novosti/commercial/208055

Flat with lots of marshes, and the biggest oldest primeval forest in Europe, with prehistoric bisons. https://www.britannica.com/place/Belovezhskaya-Forest So if you want seasides and mountains–no. If you want lakes, rivers, and epic forests–then yes.

Normal north Slav climate–not Mediterranean warm, not permafrost.

Summary: white, Slavic, orthodox, chilly, marshy, moderately prosperous and safe chunk from an alternate reality USSR which adapted and survived.

It is, however, a one-man show of one determined boomer supported by a silent majority of heartland boomers. No one can tell how the country will go after Lukashenko. If he manages to swing some sort of integration with Russia in return for concessions before retiring, that’s one thing. But then again Russia itself is also one determined boomer supported by heartland boomers, so who the hell knows. Plus, Russia is more corrupt than Belarus, and has oligarchs.

The time to move into Belarus and raise your kids was in 2010.

Left to its own devices a “westernized” Belarus can become either a second Ukraine, or a second Lithuania, or a second Poland.

Varna says:

Important healthcare caveat for EE as a whole, especially the cheaper places outside the Visegrad group: it’s only OK up to a certain level of complexity.

Basic dentistry, basic surgery, setting broken limbs, fixing cataracts, fixing pneumonia–fine. Same as the 1st world but more affordable. So far so good.

But anything more complex than this, which needs doctor who able to tell the difference between say eye nerve degeneration or a brain tumor which is mimicking the same effect — you’re fucked.

Unless you can afford to fly to Germany or Austria, or unless you live in the capital and have managed to make connections with the three best doctors in the country.

EE works if you’re mostly healthy.

Arqiduka says:

+1

Varna says:

Romania just chose the opposite direction, joining Bulgaria and going beyond mere vax passes, including mandatory masks and curfews.
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/romania-tightens-restrictions-stem-covid-19-surge-2021-10-23/

70% unjabbed.

Intradesting.

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