State of the Union Speech

Trump gave a great speech, in which he re-affirmed his campaign promises, not yet kept, to end the forever war and build the wall,

Wealthy politicians and donors push for open borders while living their lives behind walls, and gates, and guards.

Meanwhile working class Americans are left to pay the price for mass illegal immigration

  • reduced jobs
  • lower wages
  • overburdened schools
  • hospitals that are so crowded you can’t get in
  • increased crime
  • and a depleted social safety net

Smugglers use migrant children as human pawns to exploit our laws and gain access to our country.

These memes cheerfully lifted from Heartiste and from the reaction.

And what made this speech even greater is that the Democrats are planning to shoot themselves in the foot by having Stacey Abrams, dim witted fat middle aged black cat lady romance writer with fifty thousand dollars in unpaid taxes, a hundred and seventy thousand dollars in credit card debt, and no substantial assets, deliver the rebuttal. Stacey favors open borders so that our enemies who hate us can invade us, opposes gun rights so that the people coming over the open borders can kill us, opposes voter ID so that they can outvote us, favors late term abortions, and opposes religious liberty because old type Christians are Nazis who need to be punched, like the Covington boys.

Stacey Adams is the new face of the non white non male Democratic Party, which is going to run Kamala Harris for its 2020 candidate.

One of the delights of the State of the Union speech was watching evil ugly wicked witch Nancy Pelosi stare into the headlights of the oncoming truck. Too white for Democrats, too anti white for whites. When Trump renewed his promise, not yet kept, to end the forever war, she sneered, reasonably so because the senate had just voted near unanimously to overrule the president on the forever war. Then, as one of his measures to end the forever war, Trump listed moving the embassy to Jerusalem. She gasped, visibly shocked and distressed.

Moving the embassy means giving up on the project of doing to Muslims in the Middle East what Democrats have done to Christians in the West, and Trump’s statement makes sense from the point of view that the forever war is a crusade to impose progressivism on Muslims, and Trump is not going to impose progressivism on Muslims. He aims to cut a deal with the Taliban whereby they agree not to export terror, and he agrees to let them keep conservative Islam. Putting the embassy move into the context of ending the forever war puts ending the forever war into the context of progressivism losing the middle east to Islam, and to hell with the arc of history.

OK, we elected him to save America for Christians, not to save the Middle East for Muslims, but saving the Middle East for Muslims shows our enemy can bleed.

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  2. Neurotoxin says:

    The bill actually does seem to contain a poison pill on further reading. It basically says that in certain areas in Texas,

    “You can’t spend this bill’s money for a wall before September 30, 2019, and you can’t spend it after September 30, 2019 either.”

    The trick is to prohibit construction in certain border towns without “consultation” with the officials of said towns, which is required to go until 9/30/19. (The one town I checked is 99% Hispanic, so I think we can guess the political leanings.) And half of the funds can’t be spent after the fiscal year ends, which is… 9/30/19.

    • jim says:

      Does this poison pill affect State of Emergency money?

      • Neurotoxin says:

        Nope!

        The bill says (Sec 232),

        “…no funds made available in this Act shall be used for such construction while consultations are continuing.”

        So the Emergency deals with this underhanded trick.

  3. vxxc says:

    National Emergency on border declared.
    He keeps his word.

    He just won 2020 of course.
    Military engineer units will be used to build the wall.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6703509/Border-security-brawl-near-serene-resolution.html

    • Koanic says:

      Not only that, additional confirmation of Q.

      • The Cominator says:

        Q Is absolute horseshit. Remember “trust Sessions”, Q caused tremendous harm. It really pisses me off when people believe “Q”.

        • Neurotoxin says:

          Q Is absolute horseshit. Remember “trust Sessions”, Q caused tremendous harm. It really pisses me off when people believe “Q”.

          Ditto. Sessions is the best example. Another is, fucking insane though it seems, that “Maybe Mueller is a covert whitehat!” For. Fuck’s. Sake.

          People need to let go of Q.

          • The Cominator says:

            The reason I say Q caused tremendous harm is because Sessions after his treason was protected by his friends in the Senate for a long time…

            Now this could have been overcome if the Trump movement spoke with one voice demanding his firing screaming that Sessions was a traitor burning him in effigy at rallies and chanting “lock HIM up”. Q frustrated any possibility of this.

        • Koanic says:

          The Sessions gambit isn’t over yet. You’re going to look silly again.

          • Koanic says:

            The problem with Q is not that he’s fake, but that he’s real, and that he is likely to extend the stage of imperial miscegenation in the pathetic story of the USA’s decline and fall. At this rate Texans will have to start over from Tennessee again.

            • The Cominator says:

              As Jim would say nuts.

              Sessions is damn well over.

            • pterantula says:

              Q is real, America is unfixable, then not invading Russia last year makes us less of a threat to civilization. Q isn’t capable of having that intention. The only thing real Q can do other than win is lose and make America collapse faster.

    • Carlylean Restorationist says:

      You can always rely on this community to rush to get duped.

      Queen Ann saw through this nonsense in two seconds: this is game over. No court is ever going to allow Trump to use a national emergency to violate his own law on the day he passed it. What we DO get is all those concessions to the Dems.

      That’s it, bye-bye America. It was fun. Adios.

      • jim says:

        Duterte and Tony Abbott had a solution.

        By already building the wall illegally, as he has been doing for some time, Trump threatens the courts with the same solution.

        I predict that the courts, fearing a Jackson, will back down.

        When Tony Abbot demonstrated that an airforce commando outranks a high court justice, the courts suddenly and mysteriously fell silent on immigration and citizenship.

      • Starman says:

        Once again, Communist Revolutionary fails the RedPill on women test.

        • Mike says:

          Once again, R7 spams this autisticly in the comments on a topic that had literally nothing to do with women. We get it dude, women are a problem, and CR is an entryist. Doesn’t mean you have to spam this for no reason.

          • Starman says:

            That’s the thing, every single controlled opposition inserted into the dissident right fails the Redpill on women test every single time.

            • jim says:

              It is shibboleth they cannot fake.

              They can fake hating blacks – but they cannot quite fake believing that the great majority of blacks are inferior to the great majority of whites, and that every smart white is superior to the best of smart blacks (a few quadroons excepted)

              They cannot quite fake believing that the problem with black speech is that blacks just have lesser capability for speech than whites.

              But the best giveaway is not blacks, or Jews, or whatever, but women. They can loudly announce they hate Jews with the best of them. They may loudly announce they hate women. But they cannot doubt that women are wonderful. They might accuse women of being gold diggers, when the problem is that women are not gold diggers – the problem is that guy in the corner office cannot get laid, and the guy in prison for rape, torture, murder and kidnapping gets laid like a rug. We want women to choose the guy in the corner office, and to accomplish that, we will have to give him the aristocratic privilege to use violence and not be insulted that blacks currently enjoy.

              • Mike says:

                I’m going to assume you are already working on this Jim, but you gotta do a post on the recent funding bill or whatever it was that Trump just signed. Right-wing/reactionary community seems to have lost its fucking mind on every medium of communication except your blog. I admire your courage, but the situation is looking worrying.

                • jim says:

                  The poison pill effect only the funds allocated in the bill – not the funds allocated by the state of emergency.

                  Or at least that is how Trump is likely to interpret it. And then, it depends on whether the courts will risk a Jackson, and whether Trump will go ahead with a Jackson.

                  But hell, Trump is already doing a Jackson, because he illegally built some fairly impressive looking wall for the mid term elections.

                  Which leads me to expect the courts will not risk a full out in your face Jackson. They are politely ignoring his existing Jackson for fear that confronting him over it would reveal their impotence. If they did not confront him for the mid term wall, chances are they will not confront him for the state of emergency.

                • Koanic says:

                  You know the second half of “Build the Wall…”

                  “And Hang Them ALL!”

                  Like cracking a bottle of champagne across a ship’s bow, but with older alcoholic bottles.

    • yewotm8 says:

      I wish I could believe this, I really do.

      • jim says:

        We shall see

        • Frederick Algernon says:

          Cautious optimism has value. I am a hard boiled cynic and the lack of forward momentum on The Wall was immensely depressing. Consider, too, the fact that “organised reaction” completely missed the boat in 2016, an opportunity that will not be repeated in at least 2 decades IMO. A while back, some older white chap on TV stated that for GET to win 2020 he had to do 2 things: pull out of the Paris Accords [✓] and Build The Wall. He was laughed down and remonstrated. I think he was dead on.

          • jim says:

            Trump got out of the Paris treaty, he is building the wall, and one more thing. Needs to end the forever war. Needs to cut a deal with the Taliban where they do not export terror, and we do not export progressivism.

            Then he is easy for 2020. People vote for peace and prosperity. He is delivering on prosperity, needs to deliver on peace.

  4. Javier says:

    Hey Jim, thanks for creating that blog roll. Every link is great reading.

    • Carlylean Restorationist says:

      We shall see. Politicians say a lot of things. Once it’s apparent that no vehicles or pedestrians can enter the country except through the official checkpoints, then we can conclude there’s a border barrier of some kind.
      Until then, it’s all political theatre.

      • vxxc says:

        He declared national emergency.
        He’s going to use the military.

        He just kept his word.

        When the despairing lose their despair where to turn?

        • jim says:

          I think building the wall might suffice to win 2020.

          But if he makes peace with the Taliban, he is going to win easy.

          Making peace with North Korea, over the vehement opposition of the permanent government is a warmup for peace with the Taliban. Peace with the Taliban, on the basis that they do not export terror, and we do not export progressivism, is going to be hugely popular, and will take the mandate of heaven away from the progressive empire.

        • Starman says:

          Keep in mind that Communist Revolutionary is an entryist.

  5. I admire your capacity to watch these things and discuss them. I could never bring myself to watch any political speech at all, not even Hitler’s. The most I can stomach is soundbites. To pay attention to creatures like Pelosi, and what she said or didn’t say, or though or didn’t think… Man, if the day had 48 hours I still wouldn’t make time for that.

    It is a necessary job though, and I am glad to see you are performing it with so much gusto.

  6. moldbug. says:

    coming week probably most interesting for trump to date.

    most people equate getting a deal on the wall with declaring a state of emergency.

    trump will declare one to set it’s own precedent. very little to do with the wall.

    • Frederick Algernon says:

      Prescient. The bill will be signed and the SoE will be declared, according to Reuters.

      “Trump to sign border bill, declare emergency seeking wall funds” – http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-shutdown/trump-to-sign-border-bill-declare-emergency-seeking-wall-funds-idUSKCN1Q30KU

      • jim says:

        Media of the permanent government are unreliable, predicting what they want to happen in an effort to make it happen. Wait till Wednesday, before drawing any conclusions about what is happening, and what has happened.

        The bill contains a poison pill allowing local municipalities to hold the border open in their area, which is to say, no wall for California.

        This would not necessarily be fatal. It might well be fatal if the exception were to prove permanent, but would be harmless if it only effects the wall funded by the bill, and not wall funded by the state of emergency.

        The bill provides amnesty for anyone who kidnaps a minor and drags her over the border: https://www.conservativereview.com/news/5-insane-provisions-amnesty-omnibus-bill/

        Which is, on the face of it, really bad. But I still say, don’t draw any conclusions till Wednesday.

        • Neurotoxin says:

          I’ve looked through some of the bill and from what I’ve seen, it’s not as bad as many think.

          Here’s the text. It’s more than 1,000 pages, pdf file:
          https://drive.google.com/file/d/1SYQ-X1tQhWe4uPUi1odmN-IiMAliJBvs/view?usp=sharing

          The notorious “sponsor” provision is this:

          SEC. 224. (a) None of the funds provided by this Act… [may be used to deport] a sponsor, potential sponsor, or member of a household of a sponsor or potential sponsor of an unaccompanied alien child… based on information shared by the Secretary of Health and Human Services.

          I think that last part is key. It seems to just mean that if a person shows up in an HHS database of people with mad cow disease or whatever, and ICE gets their hands on that database, they can’t deport the person based solely on that info.

        • Neurotoxin says:

          The no-wall areas:

          SEC. 231. None of the funds made available by this Act or prior Acts are available for the construction of pedestrian fencing [in a list of “national parks” and whatnot near/on the border].

          First, note that “None of the funds made available by this Act or prior Acts are available for the construction.” That doesn’t say anything about funds allocated by an Emergency declaration by the President. And he just pulled that trigger today. (Sweet.)

          Second, I checked the size and location of these areas using online maps, to get at their actual/potential importance to invaders. To an extent, enforcement manpower can be substituted for a wall, of course. So it depends on the length of border that’s left un-walled by this part. What I found is basically that it only amounts to a few miles.

          There’s a significant amount of stuff I haven’t checked, but the parts I have checked are not a disaster.

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  8. eternal anglo says:

    Off topic, but Jim, what’s your take on the Gilets Jaunes? They don’t seem nearly as racist-fascist-Hitler-evil-ultra-right-wing-populist-nazi as one would expect, given the Muslim invasion. Is it that the state permits protests on issues on which it is acceptable to disagree, like fuel prices, while dissent from real leftist pieties is still suppressed as strongly as ever?

    • Mike says:

      They don’t really permit it though. They are never put on mainstream media TV and the french government is free to beat up on them like no tomorrow. The only way I ever hear of Gilets Jaunes news is by seeing it on right-wing Twitter accounts.

    • Thales says:

      Patri Friedman has been hawking “seasteading” for like 20 years now, and I keep waiting to hear how he’s been picked up by some government with a navy and thrown in a brig to rot — a practical education on sovereignty. But so far, his feet are still dry…

      • Alrenous says:

        A state with even the tiniest pretension to strength knows it needn’t imprison every crackpot leaking some noxious idea.

        Watch what happens if he actually gets afloat a physical ship of reasonable size.

  9. rrrr says:

    His stuff about China was bullshit as usual. Tariffs shouldn’t be a negotiating tool to get us “fairer” deals for more open trade. They should help us wean ourselves off of international trade entirely. Chinese or otherwise.

    We’re complaining that they’re stealing our tech? Maybe we should stop making everything there then.

    The only reason China opened their borders is because Neo-Liberals forced them through economic and political pressures. When we pull back from the global stage, so will they. It’s a win-win.

    The same goes for Iran. Attacking Iran, as anything more than a rhetorical device, is idiotic. Conservative Islam should be Reactionary best bud. When Christian culture/civilization stops being so completely degenerate, they will have no reason to want to blow up our buses. They stay there, we stay here.

    There’s plenty of room for a reactionary plurality, when we realize that white power in white lands doesn’t have to be zero sum globally.

    • The Cominator says:

      > “His stuff about China was bullshit as usual. Tariffs shouldn’t be a negotiating tool to get us “fairer” deals for more open trade. They should help us wean ourselves off of international trade entirely. Chinese or otherwise.”

      Economic autukarchy isn’t good economics. Trump’s trade policies are good economics. Trump is right and you are wrong.

      Probably not good to send hi-tech over to China though for reasons other then economic.

      “Conservative Islam should be Reactionary best bud.”

      Iran we don’t need to quarrel with but impossible to ally with Islam without adopting Islam. Islam as concieved of by Sunni (not Iran) Muslims is to be one state under one Caliph with Shariah law.

      • rrrr says:

        > “Economic autarky isn’t good economics.”

        While that’s true, it’s also completely tautological.

        Economics is not the highest good, so it does not automatically follow that because something is the best for economics it’s the best period.

        – Not censoring rap music has been great for economics.
        – Importing brown labor is great economics.
        – Producing a culture of brain dead consumerism is great for economics.
        – Advancing international trade is great for economics.

        But it’s not carefully thought out if you care more about protecting Western culture from Orientalism than you do about the nominal rate of GDP growth.

        • The Cominator says:

          “– Importing brown labor is great economics.”

          Not really, importing brown labor is a disguised form of importing slaves and indentured servants. That is perhaps a short term boost for the economy but a long term drag on it. Also it creates all sorts of negative externalities.

          Unlike most NRxers I argue against long term use of slavery (at least in the economy, left wing young women should of course in the event of war be put in a legal condition very close to slavery but only allowed to be concubines and domestic servants.)

        • jim says:

          > Not censoring rap music has been great for economics.

          Observing YouTube music videos, it is clear that which videos get top billing is not the free market but political censorship by our enemies.

          Most music videos are about the mating dance. People vastly prefer to watch the authentic mating dance, yet all available sources of music videos promote the politically correct mating dance. That is not good for economics.

          When you blame capitalism for the actions of our enemies, you are, like the Troofers, excusing people who hate us and intend to destroy us. Trooferism is all about pointing the finger in any direction other than Mueller and the FBI, and anticapitalism is all about pointing the finger in any direction other than the priesthood.

          The problem with rap videos is not that they are unholy, but that they extremely holy. The problem is not capital, but priesthood.

        • alf says:

          Yeah pretty obvious that the music industry is a small incestuous cesspool of political censorship. That you can’t see something so obvious means you refuse to see it means you plan to impose even more political censorship.

          • rrrr says:

            > you plan to impose even more political censorship.

            Absolutely. What is this, yet another libertarian website posing as a conservative website?

            • alf says:

              You’re speaking out of both side of your mouth.

              Either the music industry is heavily politically censored or it is not.

              Truth is, it is heavily politically censored, rap music including. The censorship is done by our state religion, the progressives. We don’t mind censorship, we mind progressive censorship. We also mind people who pretend that capitalists are in power instead of progressives, and are thus willfully blind to the all pervasive progressive censorship.

              • rrtr says:

                The people calling the shots at the big studios aren’t hairy women with liberal arts degrees.

                It’s board rooms full of wealthy libertarian capitalists who are happy to sell girl pop and rap music if that sells better than Classical music.

                As long as the NRx lionises progressives, while ignoring that simple human greed is what has undone Western civilization, this movement is lost.

                • jim says:

                  > The people calling the shots at the big studios aren’t hairy women with liberal arts degrees.

                  Wrong. They are hairy women with arts degrees. Read the story of how Disney shot itself in the foot over star wars.

                  A bunch of women with arts degrees threatened to Kavanaugh the senior executives at Disney unless they got to destroy Star Wars

                  > It’s board rooms full of wealthy libertarian capitalists who are happy to sell girl pop and rap music if that sells better than Classical music.

                  We can be certain that music videos where the male characters dance the male role (performance and conquest) and women dance the female role (choosing and surrender) would outsell today’s androgynous rock videos and yet we don’t see “rooms full of wealthy libertarian capitalists” selling stuff that would certainly sell better, and did sell better back when it was permitted.

                  If you look at a the background music of a game that is not too worried about political correctness, for example the original Massively Multiplayer Warcraft, the background music is classical. (They had the crusaders as good guys, and the trolls as south african negroes. This suggests to me that classical music would sell pretty well, if not for the political program of erasing the western civilization and the things the white race has created.

                  The guys pushing the videos you complain about as pushing propaganda with total indifference to whether it is what their customers want or whether it is profitable or not.

                  Feminist Star Wars did not sell. Feminist James Bond did not sell. Feminist Indiana Jones did not sell. And feminist music videos did not sell. These billionaires pissed away billions because hairy chested morbidly obese single childless women with arts degrees owing two hundred thousand in college and credit card debt were twisting their arms.

                • rrrr says:

                  To Jim below:

                  The libertarian board rooms aren’t giving in to feminist plotlines to cover anyone to progressivism.

                  They’re doing it because they hope to capture a larger market.

                  Disney, et Al, are apoplectic that they can’t get women with big budget movies, ceding the blockbuster territory to 1 million dollar Netflix productions.

                  Once they realise that women just don’t like Sci First, the market will correct for that sort of thing, but we’ll still be stuck with pornographic TV, and rap music filling the airwaves with men “dancing the male role”.

                • jim says:

                  > The libertarian board rooms aren’t giving in to feminist plotlines to cover anyone to progressivism.

                  Obviously they are. Disney pissed away their star wars franchise, which they paid four billion for, and every music video is censored for political correctness in ways that make it boring, unpleasant, and frequently disturbing for both men and women.

                  And if you trace what went wrong with Star Wars in terms of who did what, the people who pissed away their Star Wars Franchise were fat middle aged childless single cat ladies with hundreds of thousands of dollars in college debt and credit card debt who were threatening to give the board the Kavanaugh treatment.

                  > They’re doing it because they hope to capture a larger market.

                  It has been known for a very long time and repeatedly demonstrated that feminist movies and feminist dance videos do not sell, as for example the destruction of the Star Wars Franchise and the James Bond franchise. And yet we keep getting feminist movies

                • jim says:

                  The problem that feminist and politically correct movies do not sell has long been known.

                  The problem that music videos with androgynous dance moves do not sell has long been known.

                  And yet we continue to get politically correct movies and androgynous dancing.

                  In the case of Star Wars, of Disney pissing away the Star Wars franchise, we know it was not a board of billionaires, but social justice warriors with massive unpaid college debt and credit card debt threatening a board of billionaires.

                • Starman says:

                  @rrtr

                  Another blue pill entryist.

                • Alrenous says:

                  Although it’s worth remembering that this is hardly to know anything.

                  Why can unhealthy spinsters threaten billionaires? Why can’t Disney say, “Found your own Disney if you don’t like it.”?

                • Starman says:

                  “Why can unhealthy spinsters threaten billionaires? Why can’t Disney say, “Found your own Disney if you don’t like it.”?”

                  14,000 armed FBI personnel.

            • alf says:

              You’re talking out of both sides of your mouth.

              Either the music industry is heavily censoring or it is not. What is your opinion?

              Truth is, music industry is heavily censoring, also on rap music. The censorship is political in nature, it is progressive. We don’t mind censorship, we do mind progressive censorship.

              We also mind people telling us that there is no censorship, because these people always give us the lie that capitalists are in control instead of progressives. If one lie, all lies.

              • Rule Britannia says:

                it depends what you mean by capitalist tbh

                if by capitalist you mean entrepreneur and aspiring richfag, then no obviously not

                if by capitalist you mean richest men in world working fastidiously to crush all current and future possible opposition, then yes

                progs are court eunuchs, to pretend otherwise is silly. authentic power is not conferred institutionally.

                in general it is valid to attack capitalists because “capitalist” is by far the most effective suit worn by the system dedicated to your subjugation

                entrepreneurship is very different. entrepreneurs are the grist of a free market, without it there would be no such thing.

                Page & Brin are capitalists, “despite” only inventing one thing one time, though minor capitalists at that. major capitalists are bankers, euro industrialist houses, and so on. these people rarely invent anything ever.

                wage labor is unnatural, abnormal, profoundly ahistorical. capitalism is completely incompatible with freehold because freehold and wage labor are mutually exclusive. modern salaried labor is wage labor with undefined unpaid overtime.

                capitalism is not an American tradition. America was a nation of self-sufficient yeoman and small proprietors. the American ideal was a dirt farmer reading Plato.

                the modern corporate serf is an abomination, a patheticl creature, soi boi, bug man, nouveau man, no man. stripped of his soul by mass education, stripped of his mind by mass communication, stripped of his racination by mass transportation, stripped of his family by mass obliteration.

                and soon the holy and inviolable market will give him the boot. stripped of his occupation by mass automation.

                where it ends, nobody knows. could be terrible. could be great. could be the Great Filter.

                love the tentacle

                • jim says:

                  I personally got drunk with capitalists. They are terrorized by aging childless women with a hundred thousand dollars in college debt and credit card dept.

                  Progs rule, capitalists grovel in terror before them. It is the story of Disney pissing away the Star Wars franchise on feminism, a franchise that they paid four billion dollars for.

                • Starman says:

                  @Rule Bluetannia

                  “stripped of his family by mass obliteration”

                  Once again, the bluepilled entryist gives feminism the pussy pass…

                • Rule Britannia says:

                  *Deleted*

                • jim says:

                  Provide evidence that Marxism is true, don’t just assume it is true.

                  Does not look as if the billionaires on the Walt Disney board are calling the shots. If you want to argue that people like them are calling the shots, provide evidence and argument, rather than assuming that it is obvious and the entire world agrees with Marx.

                  Not everyone agrees with Marx.

                • Rule Britannia says:

                  censorship is faggotry

                  I demand you restore my reply to R7

                  your reasoning defies reason: my statement that some “capitalists” intend to crush other “capitalists” cannot possibly fall under “class warfare”, although class warfare is just as real as the preservation of favorited races in the struggle for life

                  requested example: Soros the billionaire capitalist is calling many shots. Gates the billionaire capitalist is calling many shots. there are presumably others

                  you will say that these men are fronts for other, deeper powers, to which dollars mean nothing. I agree.

                  I demand you restore my reply to R7

                • jim says:

                  I have told you why I am censoring you. You are using illegitimate methods of argument, which is to say, the standard Marxist method of argument.

                  You see capitalism being crushed, and circularly argue that since capitalists are in power, capitalists must be crushing capitalism. You need to provide evidence for your premise, that capitalists rule, rather than simply assuming it is self evident and that everyone agrees with Marx.

                  Non circular Marxist arguments, like non circular troofer arguments, I will allow, but I only see circular Marxist arguments and circular troofer arguments. Similarly, flat earthers never acknowledge that anyone disagrees with their premises, confidently and repeatedly asserting that main stream scientists believe all sorts of things, which, if mainstream scientists did believe those things, would imply the earth is flat.

                • jim says:

                  A legitimate argument, and therefore I do not censor it, but reply to it.

                  Gates is not calling any shots. He is begging the priests to give him status, and they decline to give him status because he does fairly harmless stuff like giving laptop computers to black children incapable of using them, thus affirming his pious faith that blacks are born equal to whites, but not actually doing anything to bring whites down to the level of blacks.

                  Soros is clearly doing a great deal of very damaging stuff, but is he calling the shots? Clearly he funded and organized the overthrow of the Ukrainian government, but the Nuland phone call, intercepted by the KGB, shows Victoria Nuland in charge, not Soros.

                  Soros is funded by the US taxpayer, and it looks like the permanent government is calling the shots, not Soros – that is what we saw happen in the Ukraine. The US government launders money to be used through evil purposes through Soros, but, at least in the Ukraine, the US government called the shots, and Soros was just an evil minion.

                  He who pays the piper, calls the tune, and the US government is paying Soros. The Soros Modus Operandi is to buy up worthless debt, that then rises in value in a bailout courtesy of the US taxpayer. And in the Ukraine, the KGB wiretapped Victoria Nuland calling the tune.

                • Rule Britannia says:

                  [deleted]

                • jim says:

                  Deleted because repetitious argument by assertion. You assert that capitalists rule, presumably due to the influence of donors. If capitalists rule, why are effective tax rates on the very rich so very high. Why is regulation so imperious, arbitrary and opaque. Why are big businessmen terrified of being metooed?

                  You are not arguing for marxism. You assert that Marxism is self evidently true, and everyone agrees that it is true. Argument will be allowed. Repetitious assertion will be censored to avoid conversations of the form

                  Is so

                  Is not

                  Is so

                  Is not.

                • Rule Britannia says:

                  your response bears no relationship to my comment

                • jim says:

                  If you honestly believe that, it is only because a fish cannot see water.

                • Rule Britannia says:

                  [*deleted*]

                • jim says:

                  Deleted for telling me what I know. I know Marxism better than you do, but you know nothing of reaction.

              • Rule Britannia says:

                I demand you restore my reply to R7

                • jim says:

                  Make a reply that does not tell us what we think, and does not presuppose universal consensus that Marxism is true and right, and that we oppose it out of sheer evil, and that we agree we oppose it out of sheer evil.

                • Rule Britannia says:

                  [deleted]

                • jim says:

                  I don’t agree with any of the assertions you make here, or rather take for granted as shared truth. You assert that Karl Marx was right about this thing, that thing, and the other thing, as if it was entirely uncontroversial and universally agreed, when most people believe he was lying or insane about those things.

                  So, censoring it. Will pass it if you say “Karl Marx was right about so and so and such and such and the evidence that he was right is so and so and such. For example, how about some actual data on nineteenth century living standards, on that supposedly terrible immiseration of the proletariat, and the supposed crises of capitalism?

                  I read Dickens as saying that bastard children were virtuous victims of evil men, rather than being demonspawn, that he was defending women who fuck bad boys and then dump their children on society, rather than that he was criticizing capitalism and supporting the proletariat.

                  I don’t accept your version of history, and I don’t accept your version of Dickens, or your version of Soviet Russia, and if you want to argue that it is the true version of history, need some evidence. Not going to allow you to just tell us from on high that all right thinking people agree with your version.

                  What empirical evidence do all right thinking people have that leads them to agree with your version?

                • Rule Britannia says:

                  [*deleted*]

                • jim says:

                  I told you what you need to do to not get censored:

                  You never present actual arguments. You argue by assuming a consensus already exists, when in fact no such consensus exists. This is a waste of space and reader bandwidth, because I would have to present evidence against assertions that you have presented no evidence for, and are never going to present evidence for.

                  I deny everything you purport to think is transparently obvious and universally agreed.

                  If you have to ask:

                  “Do you deny that …”

                  The answer is always:

                  “Yes, I do deny that. The only people that claim that are a bunch of frothing-at-the-mouth murderous maniacs.

                  If you want to argue for that, I am going to insist on you presenting evidence rather that simply presenting it as the universally accepted consensus.”

                  Everything you post argues for X, not by presenting evidence for X, but by presupposing universal consensus on X, where in fact X is deranged evil murderous lunacy that only a handful of evil crazies believe.

                  Everything that employs this bandwidth wasting method of argument is going to be censored.

                  If you want to argue for X, you are going to have to present evidence for X, rather than presupposing that X is agreed to by all decent reasonable right thinking people, including myself.

                  Yes, I do deny everything that you are telling me is undeniable. So present some actual evidence for it.

                  Capitalism has always existed, since at least the early iron age restoration of order following the collapse of bronze age civilization and probably all the way back to the Y chromosome bottleneck. The proletariat does not exist and has never existed. Lenin admitted as much – admitted that, because of the undeniable and great success of capitalism in bringing prosperity to the masses, efforts to inculcate proletarian consciousness would never succeed until Marxists were in the position to apply red hot pokers to the faces of “proletarians” and tear their flesh off with pliers.

                  If you want to argue with me about that, you are going to have present evidence for your position, rather than assuming that all right thinking people, including myself, already agree with you.

                  Any comment containing “do you deny that …” or similar formulation, when it is absolutely obvious that of course I deny that, is going to be deleted as a waste of space.

                • Britannia Butchered the Wrong Pig says:

                  *deleted*

                • jim says:

                  Present an argument for Marxism, and I will allow it. Just asserting that stuff, while telling us “hail fellow proletarian reactionary”, is going to be deleted.

                  Support your claims. When you simply assert this stuff, you are arguing from fake consensus, as if it was obviously and uncontroversially true, and I am just not going to let you present the appearance of fake consensus.

                  If you present a case, that acknowledges that Marxist presuppostions are controversial, are very far from consensus acceptance, and implies the matter is subject to dispute and reason. Present a case for dispute and reason.

                • Fail Britannia says:

                  [*deleted*]

                • jim says:

                  Deleted, as usual, for telling me what I think, and for making unsupported assertions as if those assertions were uncontroversial.

                  If you present arguments against the reactionary canon, instead of telling us “hail fellow reactionary, I oppose Marxism even more than you do even though it is true, right and good …” then I will allow them through.

                  What I will not allow is comments that are nothing but frame and attempts at one way ingrouping.

                  Instead of telling us to outgroup each other, and that the reactionary canon is leftism, try presenting actual arguments for the Marxist theory of history, and actual arguments that the reactionary canon is contrary to Gnon.

                  You tell us you are not a Marxist, because of differences from Marxism that no one except Marxists are likely to care about, or even comprehend. Supposing that to be true, it is irrelevant to the question of whether those aspects of Marxism that you do agree with are true or false, good or evil and similar questions about the reactionary canon.

                • Fail Britannia says:

                  *Deleted*

                • jim says:

                  Deleted for presupposing that capital rules, while failing to present evidence and argument that capital rules.

                • Britannistan Rule the Waves says:

                  [*deleted*]

                • jim says:

                  Assertions without evidence, explanation, or argument. If you want to supply non circular evidence for those assertions, I will allow it.

                  I have two long posts on the reactionary canon, which rejects all of your claims, and for which I provide evidence and argument. If you engage that evidence and argument and present arguments against it, I am interested in debating you in my comments sections. But Marxist spam is just a waste of space.

      • rrrr says:

        > “Islam as concieved of by Sunni (not Iran) Muslims is to be one state under one Caliph with Shariah law.”

        China seems to make pretty good with the Muslim world by merely not invading them for no reason, and by not being total degenerates.

        Sure, we’ll have arguments, but the Caliph and the King should be able to find a functional peace. Once the Caliph is (rightfully) in charge of his race, it’s unlikely he’ll want to go to war with us and risk losing all of his treasure, wives, and land.

        • The Cominator says:

          China has been doing good with the Muslim world by putting their own Muslims in prison camps.

        • jim says:

          China makes good with the Islamic world by terrorizing Muslims and forcibly stealing their women.

          That is the way to do it.

          I totally support the Chinese approach to Islam.

          If we were doing it the Chinese way, would detain any Muslim males in the US that looked excessively Islamic, marry their women off to Christian men, and bleach them by implanting their women with high quality white eggs.

          • rrrr says:

            Free international trade but we’re going to abduct Arab people to replace their eggs?

            Okay, I get it. You guys are just cosplayers.

            • pterantula says:

              no one forced them to come here. maybe we offer to allow them to buy a plane ticket home if we’re feelimg generous

            • Koanic says:

              You do understand that “kill them all” is the American way, yes?

              Surely you don’t have… reservations?

            • The Cominator says:

              You’re just an entryist who argued that China is nice to Muslims while in reality China is ruthless to Muslims at the 1st sign of possible trouble and is willing to escalate all the way to a Final Solution to the Islamic Problems.

              • Koanic says:

                Correct Cominator. The solution to terror camps is concentration camps! Horror > terror.

                • vxxc says:

                  Yes terror is best answered with overwhelming and horrific response.

                  We have the middle east to control the rest of the worlds oil esp Asia’s access to oil. We don’t need it, we need to be able to cut it off.

                  If we want global dominance on the cheap that is – I only care about America.

              • rrrr says:

                I didn’t say they were nice to their own Muslims.

                I said they didn’t invade sovereign Muslim leaders.

                • jim says:

                  No one gets Muslim terrorism by fighting wars with sovereign Muslim leaders.

                  You get Muslim terrorism by allowing Muslims in your country, and failing to crush them inside your own country. China is crushing them, Burma is crushing them. That is how you do it.

          • Rule Britannia says:

            if muslims are a problem, they aren’t our problem, because we can just send them back to their historical homelands in and around israel

            in addition, we’re going to have to start personally literally whacking jews with silly objects until they stop promoting the trafficking of muslims into the homelands of their self-imposed civilizational opposition, and dissolve every jewish group involved in such, like ADL, SPLC, DoJ, Brevard County, and the rest, which is most of them.

            semitic jews aside, China is going to have to give back Xinyiang. that’s rightful American clay.

    • jim says:

      Trump is right. You are wrong.

      Libertarian economics is wrong, in that trade has to be conducted under the aegis of the sovereign, thus trade between two polities requires agreement of the sovereigns, and sometimes, hard to get agreement, making trade war necessary.

      But the objective of war must always be an acceptable peace.

  10. Rule Britannia says:

    we’ll talk when drumpf stops circle-jerking the teutonically lampshaded 0.273 gorillon

    the five solae were the most complete denuding of the priestly class in surviving history

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=1ayIJed2dn4

  11. Obadiah says:

    It was interesting to watch, if nothing else. The speech was a series of /ourguy/ shivs inserted between a revolving sushi bar of standard uniparty talking points that finished with a sloppy, over-the-top Israeli BJ to assuage any misgivings.

    • jim says:

      Trump’s speech was great: Compare and contrast with the “I am a magic negro, magic I tell you” response from the Democrats.

      Yes, a pious pile of uniparty talking points – but what made the speech great were the Heartiste and 4Chan talking points.

  12. alf says:

    Yes but he also bragged that more women are working than ever.

    • The Cominator says:

      Yes that part wasn’t good. I want full employment for black and hispanic males, but I only want about 10% of women in working and only in their pre 1960s traditional professions.

    • EH says:

      It’s much worse than that. Here’s a mass mailing I got from the White House yesterday:
      [quote:]
      “More than 100 countries prohibit women from working in specific industries, which means 2.7 billion women are legally restricted from having the same choice of jobs as men,” Advisor to the President Ivanka Trump writes in The Wall Street Journal this week. In 18 countries, husbands can even legally prevent their wives from working and earning their own income, she adds.

      Expanding economic opportunity for women isn’t just the right thing to do—it’s in America’s national interest, as well. It has the potential to boost global economic output by $12 trillion by 2025. Unleashing widespread prosperity throughout the developing world can lead to a more stable, peaceful global order.

      This afternoon, President Donald J. Trump signed a memorandum to launch the Women’s Global Development and Prosperity Initiative, or “W-GDP.” Spearheaded by Ivanka Trump, this first-of-its-kind, whole-of-government approach to women’s economic empowerment will aim to touch 50 million lives in developing countries.

      That potential $12 trillion payoff “represents far more than an economic boom—it represents millions of lives full of promise: mothers who could provide for their children, daughters who could be the first to graduate from high school, and young women who could start businesses and create jobs,” Ms. Trump writes.

      W-GDP stands on a three-pillar premise:

      1. Increase women’s global labor force participation and advancement in the workplace by providing them with quality education, training, and support

      2. Improve the access that female entrepreneurs and business owners have to financing and market opportunities that help grow their businesses

      3. Eliminate the legal, regulatory, and cultural barriers that prevent women from participating in their local economies

      “By investing in women around the world, we’re investing in families, we’re investing in prosperity, and we’re investing in peace,” President Trump said.

      [Links which appear to be personalized per recipient for tracking: “How W-GDP aims to reach 50 million women in the developing world by 2025” and “Watch: Ivanka Trump previews the promise of W-GDP”, “Video of the day: SOTU in 62 seconds”]

      President Trump laid out a bold vision for American greatness in his second State of the Union address on Tuesday night. In case you missed the speech—or just want to relive a few of the highlights—we’ve compiled some of the best lines of the night.

      [pic of about three dozen people around Trump at his desk in the Oval Office]

      President Donald J. Trump, joined by Advisor to the President Ivanka Trump, members of his Cabinet, and guests, signs a memorandum to launch the Women’s Global Development and Prosperity Initiative | February 7, 2019
      [/endquote]

      So he’s promoting education of women which will predictably reduce the White fertility rate, and promoting further mandates of economic preferences for women which will destroy the remnants of the American family, increase discrimination against men and remove the last vestiges of our social and economic power. He’s pushing this throughout the world, and promising to “eliminate” any “cultural barriers” anywhere to this genocidal policy. At the same time he said in the SOTU he wants legal immigrants “to come into our country in the largest numbers ever” which will accelerate the replacement of the American people.

      He hasn’t made any moves to drain the swamp, or even to prosecute Hillary, he hasn’t built the wall, he hasn’t even quashed the illegal injunctions against his immigration policies.

      He has given aid and adhered to the cause of a foreign nation that has repeatedly attacked us, and which still gets the raw NSA intercepts and uses them to blackmail much of Congress and our judiciary, and appointed many to high office engaged in the same treason.

      He’s not our guy, he isn’t representing us, his opposition to globohomo is fake, kayfabe.

      • The Cominator says:

        The paid maternity leave thing will make employers way too reluctant to hire women outside of hospitality (or if they do truly at severely reduced pay) so its more clever then you think.

      • Starman says:

        From President Trump himself in his candid moment, “if you’re a star, they let you grab ‘em by the pussy.”

        No one in The Deep State is allowed to state or understand the red pill on women. Hence the FBI’s fake pissgate dossier’s failure to incorporate Redpill thinking (The dossier claims that a charismatic celebrity billionaire alpha male paid women to have sex with him).

      • Frederick Algernon says:

        The majority of the world is brown. Nearly 100% of the world that this memo is regarding is brown. This is a bauble; blue meat served up by his [[[daughter]]] to give gashes political cover for supporting him in 2020. It is a pipe dream or a spreading of family destroying bureaucratic population capping. If you want me to weep for 3rd world nations or foreign families, you are SOL.

  13. Eric says:

    SOTU was perfect charm offensive. The left is self-destructing, against wall with no credible reason. For murdering babies. In blackface. No credible proposal to make things better. Going gaga about global warming just as the country is blanketed by all time cold. 4 AM FBI raids on old man. No remotely rational person could find anything to like. His speech said nothing negative about them (except calling out their position on babies) and called them to participate which they will not do. So helping them continue to make themselves look stupid.
    Counter punches coming later after rope a dope runs its course.

    • Thales says:

      The Democrats have held the House for about a month, and they are still in total disarray. TDS is their only Schelling point. They have no legislative agenda. They exude nothing but hatred and pettiness. Speaker Pelosi has no control over the Crazy Lady Caucus. Even the allied MSM can’t keep a lid on this disaster. It’s like nothing has changed for them since 2016 except they’re now occupying the floor and look all the more foolish for not knowing what to do with themselves.

      Meanwhile, God-Emperor Trump (PBUH) continues to project strength, confidence and magnanimity as he goes about his business unfazed by recent events because he’s faced opposition (from the GOP) since Day 1.

      • Pete says:

        The Dems don’t need a legislative agenda, and there is no disaster for them. All they need is more brown voters, and guess what? More brown voters are entering the country and being born every day.

        Trump is doing nothing to stop this.

        • Koanic says:

          Trump is doing plenty. He is doing it mostly with talk-talk, since Americans are too pussy to make war-war to stop the mud-bloods. If you find that too slow, nobody is stopping you from taking up arms against the USG.

  14. Oliver Cromwell says:

    Drumpf is finished.

    He needed to do 10x what he promised in the campaign, and with this speech he has promised to do 1/10th.

    There is no coup. No coup is coming.

    It is more likely that Trump will placate his opponents enough to let him retire than that he will discover a need to coup.

    He was always businessman, not a revolutionist. We wanted to believe.

    • jim says:

      It took Augustus ten to twelve years to get the Roman government under control even after his coup.

      Yes, you are right that we wanted to believe. You are very wrong when you suggest that politics as normal is continuing and will continue.

      > It is more likely that Trump will placate his opponents

      Trumps opponents are implacable. If there is no coup, he will probably be imprisoned, and eventually executed. You predict politics as normal, but we have been seeing ever more abnormal politics, and if there is no coup, politics will continue to the ever more extraordinary and unprecedented.

      • Trump only has 2-6 years left and one of those years will be spent campaigning and far less power than Augustus ever had.

        • jim says:

          This presupposes that politics as normal shall continue. Politics as normal has not been continuing.

          • The Cominator says:

            Its very very unpredictable how it will go though.

            The Roman Republic really ended not with Julius Caesar but when Sulla marched on Rome (though with an unbelievable provocation of having been relieved of military command as a sitting Consul and winner of the grass crown which meant he was certainly competent to command, Marius was not a priest and did not suck but he was old jealous and possibly demented at that point).

            The “Republic” post Sulla up until the point Octavian won the final civil war was dominated by warlords with private armies (perhaps having more fear of Julius Caesar because he was actually descended from the kings of Rome). So far though nobody has marched on DC though somebody probably should. The more I think about it though the modern left is so feminine and Bioleninist that there is just no scenario where they can win a civil war.

      • For a coup, a good speech would be something that would trigger libs so much, they would start doing recklessly illegal things so that they can be locked up.

        That is the only way. He cannot start the illegal stuff first, not with conservatives, soldiers organized around a religion of the sacredness of the Constitution and the sacredness of democracy. If libs can be triggered into doing massive unconstitutional, anti-democratic (whatever that means), illegal stuff, behave like outright criminals, that is when he can use force. It has to be legal or at least look so.

        If I remember right, Julius Caesar was legally elected tribune, consul, supreme military commander (imperator), and then dictator for life somewhat questionably legally, and I suppose Augustus arranged something like that. The imperator title was only about commanding the military and had civil power. If I remember right Augustus’ invention was “princeps”, which just meant the first one to speak about an issue in the Senate. Then the rest of senators knew not to disagree and just nod along, but that was ensured by other means…

        Rome is a useful parallel because there was a similar piety among conservatives, soldiers about the constitution which wasn’t quite written but basically old traditional republican way of doing things. Julius couldn’t just strut in and coup, he had to reject the crown of the king multiple times, had to pretend he is playing by the legal rules…

        If there ever be a successful rightist coup in America, it will look very legal, very constitutional and very “democratic”.

        • jim says:

          You will notice that Dems are conspicuously crazier and more evil this year than last year. They are on autotrigger, as exemplified by the Covington boys. Their current platform is fourth trimester abortion, open borders, and a fat forty year old single childless broke black woman talking about how wonderfully counter-stereotypical she is.

          They are at the point where leftism has to go mailed fist and start murdering their opponents – but the president is their opponent. And in 2020, will be more crazy and more evil. During the state of the union speech everyone saw Pelosi looking as evil, hostile, and angry as she really is. If they just backed off and stopped drinking the Kool-Aid for a bit, demographics would give them everything, but they cannot help embracing madness and evil prematurely.

          Pretty soon they are going to try to grab the controls of the plane to fly it into the ground. Trump’s job is to look normal, reasonable, compromising, and sane, without, however normalizing the madness and evil of his enemies.

  15. simplyconnected says:

    So you all think that all those inclusive and progressive comments were all talk but no action? A way to have his cake and eat it too?

    • jim says:

      Sure. What has Trump actually done to increase legal immigration?

      He has cracked down on the H1B racket, and his offer of a path to citizenship for H1Bs makes H1Bs less attractive to the employers.

      He also cracked down on false rape allegations in college, which have gone away, and a whole lot of diversity hires in engineering have mysteriously and inexplicably lost their jobs that under Obama they mysteriously and inexplicably obtained despite total inability to do any engineering.

      • simplyconnected says:

        He did suggest in private he prefers immigrants to come from Norway than shitholes. So that may show his revealed preference, as opposed to the stated preference we heard last night.

        > a whole lot of diversity hires in engineering have […] lost their jobs

        That is news nowhere to be seen in the media. Wonderful, if that’s the case.

        • jim says:

          > > a whole lot of diversity hires in engineering have […] lost their jobs

          > That is news nowhere to be seen in the media. Wonderful, if that’s the case.

          They were hired due to extra legal state pressure, and fired due to a quiet relaxation in that extra legal state pressure. To report the news and to blame Trump for it would be to acknowledge the extra legal state pressure was causing payrolls to be padded with useless, disruptive, and dangerous people.

          Supposedly businesses are hiring whores and blacks because women are wonderful and blacks are magic. Noticing a sudden decline in wonderfulness and magic would be kind of hard to explain.

          • simplyconnected says:

            > To report the news and to blame Trump for it would be to acknowledge the extra legal state pressure was causing payrolls to be padded with useless, disruptive, and dangerous people.

            You are probably right. But just for fun this is my attempt:
            “*Trump creates environment that discourages women and minorities to pursue STEM careers* In this disturbing expose, we uncover the climate of fear and intimidation that has forced many women and minorities to abandon their lucrative scientific and engineering jobs.”

            • jim says:

              Interesting that when the pressure to falsely convict white college students of rape eased up we did not see “Trump encourages rape epidemic on campus”. Instead, the supposed rape epidemic that Obama discovered vanished down the memory hole.

  16. pyrrhus says:

    Clever civ-natterie to get the masses on his side and disarm Pelosi…Now for the State of Emergency.
    In reality, of course, legal immigration is the biggest threat, but the boobs don’t understand that.

    • jim says:

      When he pointed to high employment numbers for enemy groups, he was not trying to get their votes – he was trying to get the votes of whites that don’t want to be called “racist”.

      • The Cominator says:

        He was probably trying to nibble off a little of their votes around the margins.

        I for one despite all the problems blacks have don’t believe that 90+% of blacks vote Democrat. I could believe 70% but I think the 90+% is massive vote fraud. Black WOMEN all love Democrats but it seems every third black guy likes Trump.

        Most of the black vote is in poor democrat run shitholes and most of the poor blacks don’t show up, I imagine that any poor black who doesn’t show up and especially who doesn’t register is mysteriously registered as a Democrat and mysteriously ends up voting for them.

        • The Cominator says:

          Jim I’m curious as to your opinion on that issue?

        • jim says:

          Trump gets a better black and Hispanic vote than any Republican, because he is doing real good for the economy and the working class, which matters for black and Hispanic males, those few of them that actually work, but it still small stuff compared to the potential for getting the remaining “anti racist” white votes.

          The Dems are in disarray because they are a white Jewish party that is turning into the anti white race war party, with Israel on the enemies list like Rhodesia and South Africa.

          Which means that force of events has to turn the Republicans into what the Dems accuse it of being: The pro white race war party. Trump’s job is to ease the white vote into the race war party without them feeling bad about it.

          • The Cominator says:

            What I’m saying is don’t believe that 90% of the blacks in shithole ghettoes showup and vote Democrat. I don’t believe most of them showup at all.

            The Dems can roundup a few off the streets with promises of free liquor, junk food and newports but certainly can’t get the whole neighborhood to wait in line.

            I can believe 95% of black women when they do vote vote Democrats, I can’t believe 90+% of them showup. With black men I can believe neither. I say if they all voted the Democrats would get 70% of them at most.

          • Mister Grumpus says:

            “Trump’s job is to ease the white vote into the race war party without them feeling bad about it.”

            You really think so? You think he thinks that himself?

            Or rather do you mean that in terms of functional equivalency, like how cancer prevention doctors are actually in the business of getting people off of fast food and cigarettes?

            • jim says:

              The Democrats are correct that Trump gets the race war vote. The Democrats tell whites that if you vote to defend yourself, or take personal action to defend yourself as Zimmerman did, you are a bad person. Trump’s job is to make it possible for people to vote to defend themselves and act to defend themselves. Trump’s self interest is to make it psychologically possible for people to vote to defend themselves. Trump is mighty good and consciously and intentionally pursuing his self interest by showmanship and memeing.

  17. Carlylean Restorationist says:

    Funny how people perceive the same thing in totally different ways.

    The speech I heard was “don’t worry the status quo is safe in my hands – we can have our bipartisan prison reform and maybe you might want to censor some anti-Semitism”

    • jim says:

      The status quo is open borders, no wall, the destruction of white America, and the forever war in the middle east.

      You think the status quo is “capitalism” – which was clearly not safe in the hands of Obama.

      • Mike says:

        I agree with everything you said Jim, except for the “oy vey anti-Semitism bad” part of the speech. That was completely forced and over the top. Now I’m not going to sperg out about it like some of the white nationalist/purple pillers on Twitter, but I’m also not dumb enough to believe that “all Jews are our friends”. The only jews that are our friends are traditional orthodox jews and Zionist jews, jews that keep to themselves and pursue the greatness of their people alone. The secular or non-zionist jews that make up most of modern Judaism are a cancer on Trump’s agenda and it is sad seeing him pandering to them.

      • Rule Britannia says:

        the capitalism of Sackler was clearly quite safe in Obummer’s tender hands

        let me guess, not true capitalism amirite?

        • jim says:

          Who is Sackler?

          Obama smashed capitalism, and another Democratic term would have made America into Venezuela.

          The Transpacific Partnership was Trotskyite socialism.

          • Anonymous 2 says:

            The Sackler family owns Purdue Pharmaceuticals, renown for pushing opiates on the lower white orders by various clever means (like “pain management” etc). They also fancy themselves philanthropists.

            • Carlylean Restorationist says:

              Yeah they’re now claiming they invented subutex.

              Jim’s intensely relaxed about that.

              • jim says:

                That they seek, and will probably obtain, a patent on a drug invented half a century ago by one of their competitors, and widely used for half a century, is not capitalism, but the socialist regulation that Trump complains about and is rolling back.

                the Gangsta Disciples are American capitalism selling us drugs. The Sackler family are American communism selling us drugs.

                I am not at all relaxed about this, having repeatedly condemned socialism in general, communism, American Communism, and the socialist American healthcare system in particular. Calling the Sackler family capitalism is like calling the Trans Pacific Partnership (a plot by Trotskyites to implement world wide socialism) capitalism.

                If Obama is for it, and Trump against it, calling it capitalism is lying to us about who our enemies are.

                • Alrenous says:

                  American medicine suffers from drug shortages.
                  No capitalist thing anywhere suffers from shortages for any significant length of time.

                • Rule Britannia says:

                  correction: a free market doesn’t tend to suffer from shortages for any significant length of time

                  but who wants to do business in a free market?

                • jim says:

                  Priests can prevent the free market.

                  Capitalists would like to prevent the free market, but lack the power.

                • Rule Britannia says:

                  [*deleted*]

                • jim says:

                  Deleted for telling me what I think.

                • Starman says:

                  @RuleBritannia

                  Hello Mr. Bluepill…

                • Carlylean Restorationist says:

                  [*deleted*]

                • jim says:

                  Unresponsive. Looks like generic spam that you might have sent to any political blog.

                  If some unspecified villain is using logical fallacies and illegitimate methods of debate to argue for some unspecified position, name the fallacy and tell us what his illegitimate methods of debate are, as I do with troofers and marxists all the time.

            • jim says:

              Ah, not capitalism, since American medicine is socialist. There are lots of people selling recreational opiates, but the Sacklers get a government permit to do so, and the rest of us do not. The Gangsta Disciples providing “protection” services to people who sell heroin, now that is capitalism.

              • Koanic says:

                I see more than a little feudalism in there. Getting back to our roots, in more ways than one.

              • Rule Britannia says:

                strangely, American “socialist” medicine doesn’t much resemble European medicine, which everyone agrees is socialist

                it seems to be principally one titanic redistributive mechanism from middle class white men to the pharmaceutical behemoths and their enablers

                perhaps because the Neoliberal World Order (NWO) motto is something to the effect of: “capitalism for me but not for thee”

                • The Cominator says:

                  Its not pure socialism its something even worse, a hodgepodge of socialism, regulatory socialism, and crony capitalism.

                • jim says:

                  You have not seen capitalist medicine.

                  The difference between American socialist medicine and European socialist medicine is insignificant.

                  If a country has capitalist medicine you see medical providers advertising their low prices. You see them using social media to promote their product on price and quality. You will see facebook pictures of doctors with happy customers telling you about their services.

                  If a country has capitalist medicine you see medical tourism, as people fly half way around the world to get treated in a capitalist hospital.

                  Countries with capitalist medicine get medical tourists from countries with socialist medicine.

                  You can tell capitalist medicine because you see providers of medical services trying to get your attention, and tell you of their price and quality.

                  Capitalist medicine has markets. Markets have prices. American medicine does not have prices.

                • Mike says:

                  I feel like I am being pedantic here, but people do fly from all over the world to get American medicine. The Mayo Clinic is considered close to the best medical center in the whole world. Hell, during the Cold War all the old-style communists knew their medicine sucked compared to the West’s and so they would either fly over here for treatment or they would smuggle Western medicine to the East for Communist Party members to get treated by.

                  Our medicine isn’t bad, it’s at the top of the world. How it is given out however, is done horribly, perhaps even worse than Europe’s method of doing so.

                • jim says:

                  Yes, lot of medical tourism from Canada to America, but I am not seeing medical tourism on a scale which causes providers to promote it. If America had capitalist medicine, hospitals would be promoting medical tourism the way hotels promote beaches.

                • pdimov says:

                  >but people do fly from all over the world to get American medicine.

                  A certain class of people, yes. The rest go to Israel.

                • jim says:

                  I was not aware of Israeli medical tourism.

                  On looking it up, I find that Israel receives significant medical tourism, but Singapore is a much bigger destination for medical tourists than Israel.

                  In one of my other identities, I obtained treatment for my girlfriend, a long way from Israel. The doctor had us pose with him for a photo, and then I discovered that I, my girl, and the doctor, are on facebook as his satisfied medical tourists, taking advantage of his low, low prices, which in fact we are. Capitalism 101. That is how you know you are getting capitalist medicine.

                • Frederick Algernon says:

                  An example of “capitalist medicine” would be what occurred in laser eye surgery and plastic surgery when insurance companies + govHealth mandated that these two classes of procedure be categorized as Elective. Prices dropped then stabilized based on competition + raw cost.

                • jim says:

                  When government stopped funding laser eye surgery, it got cheaper and better. Now if only the government would stop funding cataract surgery.

      • Carlylean Restorationist says:

        [*deleted*]

        • jim says:

          deleted for telling us what Trump thinks and what he says. When Trump said that both sides were to blame for Charlottesville, that was a significant expenditure of his political capital in defense of the nationalist right, in defense of the pro white right, which expenditure is still costing him.

          That he made that expenditure shows where his heart lies.

          You are always telling us that our enemies are our friends, that our friends are our enemies, and that we disagree with each other on matters where we do not disagree.

          If Spandrel or Moldbug disagrees on Throne, Altar, Freehold, Family and Property, ask them to say they disagree with me, don’t tell me that they disagree when they have not said so.

  18. Koanic says:

    Hail the God Emperor, or as he as known in the Middle East, the Kwisatz Haderach.

  19. Eli says:

    He also masterfully pulled out magic negros and Latinos, to both showcase that he’s no racist and the pro-Americanness of his agenda.

    Great speech.

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