The “moderate” right

If we continue to move left at the same rate as we were moving left in 2016-2024, then by 2032 the moderate left position will be that everyone should immediately torture to death everyone insufficiently left, the radical left position will be that everyone should torture to death everyone who is not purely and truly left, and no one is purely and truly left, the moderate right position will be that only the moderate right should be tortured to death (compare today’s moderate republican position on policies aimed to eliminate moderate Republicans from politics by election rigging and population replacement) and the ultra extreme radical far right Hitler Hitler Hitler position will be that very few people need to be tortured to death for insufficient leftism.

Asmongold is a hugely influential influencer. He is a gamer, and resents the vicious and hateful attack on by gaming companies on gamers. So when it comes to gaming, he is perceived by the left as genocidal Hitler Hitler Hitler. But on everything else, he is not even moderate right. He is centrist, thermidorean, or moderate left. Right wing on what he knows, accepts the Zeitgeist on everything he does not know or does not much care about. Apart from arguing that video games should not spit on and deride most of their audience, and that influencers who say so should not be cancelled, he is 2020s moderate left. On video games and cancel culture, he is Hitler nazi Hitler Hitler Hitler.

This analogous to most people’s position on the legacy media during the last few decades. On anything that they themselves knew about, they were aware that the legacy media was ignorant, stubbornly indifferent to truth, and aggressively pumping out hostile manipulative disinformation. On anything they did not themselves know and care about, they trusted the legacy media completely.

So people like Asmongold, the vast majority of normies, should not be allowed to vote. That they can vote is dangerous. You don’t want the sheep deciding which way the flock goes, because then you will get people herding the sheep to the slaughterhouse.

Right now, our civilisation is falling, and our race and people are vanishing. Imports are not replacing the missing grandchildren, most of them live on crime and wefare, which is unsustainable once our people disappear. Obviously only radical measures can fix this problem. Poofs off roofs, de-emancipate women, and conscript wombs (Coverture, white Sharia). Fertile age women need to find a husband as soon as they reach fertile age and develop the corresponding secondary sexual characteristics, or if not, have one found for them. Preferably by her father, but by the authorities if no father, or father failing at his task. And once married, the woman has to honor and obey, the man has to cherish. Divorce only for female adultery or male abandonment, male abandonment a crime, female adultery a serious crime for the woman, and an even more serious crime for the adulterer. Shooting adulterers should be legal, or not very seriously illegal. You can kill someone who is trying to steal your television, why not someone who is trying to steal your wife? Also I have noticed that if women plausibly suspect that their man would kill them and the interloper, that makes their man considerably more attractive in their eyes. We may reasonably suppose that that was the ancestral environment of successful reproduction for women.

The problem with emancipation is that it leads to women exercising unrestrained sexual and reproductive choice. Which sounds like it is going to be a good thing for women, and the alternative a very bad thing for women. But if women get continuing sexual and reproductive choice, you have abolished marriage 1.0. Reproduction and family is a prisoner’s dilemma problem. Marriage 1.0 was social and legal enforcement of cooperate/cooperate equilibrium. Without it, you get defect/defect equilibrium. Which means that very few people, male or female, get the choice of family. Instead, women get pornotopia, which would be great for them if they were men, but which not at all what women want. It makes them heartsick, neurotic, and crazy. And most men get inceldom, which is very bad for them, and gives them no incentive to work, to pay taxes, or to fight for God, King, and Country. About three percent of men get pornotopia, but eventually discover that pornotopia is not what they like either, hence player burnout, though pornotopia is a lot more attractive for men than for women. Trouble is, no matter how alpha you are, there is always some man who is plausibly more alpha than you. “She was never yours, it was just your turn.”

Limited franchise, poofs off roofs, de-emancipation, and womb conscription are “extreme far radical right”. They are also the only positions compatible with long term survival. Without them, we are short of grandchildren.

And pretty soon, if nothing very radical happens under Trump, failure to murder everyone who is insufficiently left is likely to also be “extreme far radical right”, just as moderate Republicans now go along with cancel culture.

8 comments The “moderate” right

Ulfhethnar says:

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dharmicreality says:

The problem the world over is that our current “right wing” leaders are mostly old-school feminists, i.e. far right according to the radical left, but in reality really, very much left of centre.

One thing I can say is that Modi is definitely a believer in “Nari Shakti” or women power, so you cannot expect radical right wing movement from Modi, but what the Modi administration has shown since 2014 is that it can halt radical leftism if there is a reasonably cohesive alliance of the moderates. The moderates need not agree on everything but simply agree on what needs to be suppressed.

The obvious issue is with this is that, there will be a vaccuum in the place of a virtuous state religion, which gaps if left unfilled over time, will be occupied by another evil ideology. One hopes that, by preventing the shark from swimming, the shark drowns. Even if Trump cannot become the God Emperor and Patriarch of America, he can still halt Leftism if he wants to by becoming Stalin or giving way to a Stalin. But the seeds of the virtuous state religion to take over has to be sown quickly before Stalin departs the stage.

dharmicreality says:

The moderates need not agree on anything* but simply agree on what needs to be suppressed.

* everything

Jim says:

The vacuum will be filled by something, sooner or later. The question, in American and in India, is what?

Dharmicreality says:

Exactly. The moderates think that their unprincipled exceptions to leftism alone form a cohesive state religion.

While we know that current year MAGA and Hindutva are nothing more than placeholders waiting to give way to truly virtuous state religions respectively.

We have a more immediate kind of problem due to the Trump-Musk blowup. Looks a lot like Vance has been the real candidate of the Tech Right all along.

This matters, because so many people were kissing Trump’s ring, that started to make me optimistic. However crazy it sounds, there are people even calling themselves “MAGA Communists” ! Or Joe Rogan is a “MAGA liberal”.

Without or after Trump, things can get a lot worse again, exactly how you described it.

Basically in modern terms, the Real Right can only win if cults of ideology can be replaced by cults of personality. Because a cult of personality is the closest thing to monarchy these days. Strictly personal, not ideological kinds of loyalty and devil take ideology, the King just does whatever he wants to.

Every single attempt of the Right trying a cult of ideology as opposed to personality failed, largely due to treason from inside + entryism. Time to try something else.

(BTW this might be why you Jim don’t much like Catholicism, even that of the past. Catholicism of the past, when it was “based”, Syllabus of Errors etc., can be understood as a Rightist cult of ideology, not personality. Like Vatican ideology above Kings, that stuff.)

Problem is, no one except Trump seems capable of generating that.

Question: if I wanted to summarize the core of the Dark Enlightenment to outsiders, would this do: cults of ideology are bad, even cults of Rightist ideology, it is better to have a cult of personality?

Karl says:

Your last paragraph suggests that you no longer think that Thermidor can stays in control for a decade or so. Why? What has changed?

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