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Covid public service announcement

Biden has just come down with Covid again, or never shook it in the first place.

The quadruple jabbed have damaged immune systems, so keep getting it, and take longer and longer to recover from each case. In any person with a normal immune system, live virus is cleared from the blood and body fluids in a few days, though it hangs around barricaded in the nuclei of the cells causing trouble for a while longer.

The golden purebloods, people who caught covid and have never been jabbed, are largely immune once they recover, and unless they were also coming down with half a dozen deadly comorbidities (usually obesity related) purebloods recover about as fast as from any cold or flu.

Covid was genetically engineered to attack the lungs, the immune system, the ovaries, and the testes, so each case damages the immune system of the jabbed further, and the longer it slowly lingers, the more it damages the immune system. We may soon see a massive outbreak of AIDs like symptoms if the boosted keep boosting. Or maybe even if they stop, but keep getting lingering Covid over and over and over again.

Ivermectin, widely available as horse paste, is highly effective if taken early. This drug has long been used on a wide scale in a humans and animals to treat an extraordinarily wide range of ailments caused by entirely unrelated living organisms and is very safe and cheap, which is why official “science” does not like it. It knocks out for a month or two some basic cellular processes that are non critical for most mammals, and as insignificant as the appendix in humans, but absolutely essential for a huge range of entirely unrelated life forms.

The mechanism of action of Ivermectin against Covid is unclear – indeed its mechanism against many sorts of organisms is unclear, but it may act by disabling a cellular function, non essential in humans, that the Covid virus abuses to get into the nucleus of the cell, where your immune system cannot counterattack without massive collateral damage.

A single dose of horse paste containing 20mg Ivermectin taken in the first day or so of the infection will cure you very shortly, and if taken prophylactically because you have close contact with Covid cases, gives you protection for a month or so. If taken after a few days, not so effective. In that case you might want to keep on taking it, though it has little effect after the first week or few days. Nicotine is also effective, and, unlike Ivermectin, effective later in the infection. Get a patch if you failed to take Ivermectin promptly. And all the usual stuff, vitamin D and balanced divalent salts, in particular zinc.

Despite the powerful prophylactic effect of Ivermectin, I would not recommend taking it every month or so just to be safe, because though widely used for a very long time, with no significant side effects, it has not been widely used in this manner.

Also, we have a state religion of Worship of the Awesome Might of the Covid Demon, thus worrying too much about Covid is demon worship, even if you are using protective measures that his holy priesthood has denounced as sacrilegious (because they actually are effective). On the one hand, Ivermectin represents defiance of the state religion. On the other hand, taking too much trouble to protect yourself against Covid represents respect for the Might of the State’s supposedly mighty and awesome demon.

The correct Christian attitude towards demons is that demons do not exist, and that demons do exist, but are ridiculous, contemptible, and impotent against the power of Christ. It’s just the flu, bro.

850 comments Covid public service announcement

Starman says:

Ha ha.

Leon says:

Do you think they will attempt another shut down?

jim says:

Not if war with China. If China backs down, or they back down, another shutdown for the great reset and the 2022 elections possible, but as the holiness spiral speeds up, the direction it takes become less predictable.

notglowing says:

I’m not seeing any intention of doing that currently. I have been following the news regarding covid closely for a long time now, and saw and pointed out when there was an inflection point in the sentiment.

Others have noted that attention to covid has been kept alive, though at a low level, and I agree that is worrying.

But whenever any expert called for return of greater restrictions, or for greater prudence given new variants, the response from all of the health ministers and such was always that it is unnecessary, deaths and hospitalizations are down regardless of infection numbers, we need to live with the disease, etc.

In my country, it took them a very long time to get rid of all restrictions, and a select few places still mandate masks until September 30th (since the last extension) but these are reduced to almost nowhere.

Anecdotally, previously insane COVID believers (who seem to often be women with no kids over 40) are now tired of it, and are upset any restrictions are still there.
People simply do not wear masks, though they still keep them around their neck ceremonially sometimes. The only place where mask wearing is practiced and enforced is the hospital.

We and other countries just had another huge peak of infections, and the response from authorities was to essentially ignore it. Even the triple vaccinated are not getting ill at this point, and when they do, only slightly so. Young people are not going to get another shot if they are not forced into it. There are talks of another booster etc, but only for old people.

I think it would be far more difficult for governments to justify new lockdowns now, especially with the public already knowing how far down that rabbit hole goes, and many experts seemingly having abandoned the faith themselves. It would require much greater coordination than I believe could be drummed up again given current conditions. This is not the path of least resistance for the system. Anything else would probably be more effective, and catch everyone unprepared.

Furthermore, consider this comparison between Japan and Italy.
Both are highly vaccinated, both have just had another huge peak in measured infections. The big difference is the former had very few infections last year, due to their isolation. Now they are catching up.

Japan has much worse official hospitalization numbers right now, which proves that only prior infection is effective.

It’s interesting to note that Japan is the only country aside from China still living in the Covid era. They never had a ton of domestic restrictions but travel for tourism is still effectively impossible, and only theoretically allowed, under conditions that almost no tourist would accept.

Every wave is making more people immune. And every time someone catches it and doesn’t fall ill, and sees others not fall ill, it damages his already dwindling faith. The covid demon is out of miracles.

Starman says:

@notglowing

“Anecdotally, previously insane COVID believers (who seem to often be women with no kids over 40) are now tired of it, and are upset any restrictions are still there.”

Yes.

The “Covid Demon” was just karens being karen.

alf says:

The covid demon is out of miracles.

Sums it up quite well.

Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

The pivot to Putler with ukraine probably seemed like a good idea to them at the time. Of course many expected that they could just continue surfing the wave of mania all the way to cannibal holocaust, but it was getting increasingly difficult for the gerontocrats to keep the circus tent around the clownshow. And while you can reasonably anticipate what things will be leading too crisis points, they are like the event horizons of a black hole, in that what happens during and after moments of crisis are so often unanticiple.

Their conjured spirit became too big, too entangled with every level of the theocracy’s organs of legitimation, to just quietly walk back; so when an opportunity came to divert attention, one or more factions jumped on it.

Murray says:

Here in BC, the government has just announced that its going to stop reporting outcomes by vaccination status because the data is “too difficult to interpret” or some such. The last reported data showed the vaccinated making up more than their population share of critical-care hospitalizations and deaths–and of those, the triple- and quadruple-vaccinated make up a supermajority.

More broadly, Canada seems to be experiencing COVID hospitalizations in an ascending wave pattern, with each trough and peak higher than the previous ones. Deaths remain low, but we’ll see what the fall brings. I half expect carnage among the vaxed.

I got fired for not going along with this debacle, from a long-term engineering job that had nothing whatsoever to do with healthcare. In true dissident-right fashion, the late middle-aged HR manager catlady with colored hair was my downfall. If I ever attain to the Destination of the Just (probably a 40% chance), I expect my reward will include a front-row seat at her eternal reward.

jim says:

> The last reported data showed the vaccinated making up more than their population share of critical-care hospitalizations and deaths–and of those, the triple- and quadruple-vaccinated make up a supermajority.

It has become increasingly obvious that the damage done by the jab is cumulative.

Globalist Power Terminated II says:

GNON makes no false judgements.

Maverick says:

Lucky for your entertainment in this life your Maximum Leader is heading toward the Sri Lanka green fertilizer model, such that you’ll at least have expensive or unavailable popcorn for the show of the Canadian farmers getting Truckered.

Neurotoxin says:

“Here in BC, the government has just announced that its going to stop reporting outcomes by vaccination status because the data is “too difficult to interpret” or some such.”

LOL.

Of course, vaccine uptake is noticeably correlated with political leanings. I am euphoric at how the left’s plan to depopulate the world will disproportionately kill leftists and spare people on the right. The Brave New World they’re engineering is going to be a bunch of sane, healthy people, or in left-speak, “ultra-super-hyper-mega right-wingers.”

Yul Bornhold says:

In the event of Biden suffering inexplicable SADS within next two years, what happens? I get the sense Biden’s handlers wouldn’t be too happy with Kamala but haven’t seen any groundwork for removing her.

Burgasko says:

The fact that Biden has no symptoms and hasn’t been hospitalized is proof that the vaccine works, you idiots.

jim says:

The only people who get hospitalized are suffering from co-morbidities that would likely have resulted in them being hospitalized even if they did not have covid. The Awesome and Mighty Covid Demon’s miracles were always hype and lies.

People with multiple boosts are, however, now heavily overrepresented among those who go to hospital with covid, and those who die with covid.

In the early days of the jab, the jabbed were over-represented among people catching covid, but under-represented among those hospitalized or dead with covid, indicating that the jab has some short term protective effect. But the protective effect is short term, while the damage to blood and organs is long term, so as time went by, they have come to be over-represented among hospitalizations and deaths.

There has been an enormous rise in the death rate among young adults, in case you did not notice. The jabbed are suddenly dropping dead in increasing numbers, even when they do not catch covid, as they do far more often than the purebloods. The jab is itself a comorbidity.

Mister Grumpus says:

Here’s the thing though. The people with the most boosters are also the people in the worst shape in general and therefore most worried about their mortality, which I can understand frankly. That’s at least qualitatively true, so how do you factor-out that fact when determining, if only for your own logical satisfaction if not anyone else’s, that the most-boosted people are getting sicker ALSO because they’re the most boosted?

This isn’t an argument. I really am asking.

Is it a kind of inverse poster child effect, with the super athletes getting heart attacks on TV and all that?

Aidan says:

Yes, though the already-sick are more likely to take the shot, the increase in mortality for the young and healthy is what indicates danger from the shot.

jim says:

Death rate among athletes and pilots has hugely increased. Anecdotally it is the boosters, though we don’t have official data separating the cases.

Death rate among young adults has massively increased. Death rate among athletes has increased considerably more. Data for pilots is only anecdotally available, but death rate for pilots also disproportionately increased, possibly because they do work at low oxygen levels. The jab sodomizes your blood and causes clotting, which leads to increased risk when you are under oxygen stress.

Globalist Power Terminated II says:

GNON makes no false judgements.

Neurotoxin says:

“The people with the most boosters are also the people in the worst shape in general and therefore most worried about their mortality… That’s at least qualitatively true, so how do you factor-out that fact…”

This is very easy to do, given enough data; it’s taught in the first couple of weeks of an intro Statistical Methods course.

While it’s easy to do, the extent to which it actually has been done, ???

skippy says:

Biden was reported as having the same cold/flu-like symptoms as are standard for the Omicron+ variants.

If not for the Omicron mutation turning covid into an unremarkable respiratory infection, Biden would very likely be dead.

Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

>change definition of ‘vaccine’ from ‘induced immunity to a viral pathogen’ to ‘maybe you might not die’.

lmao

The Cominator says:

> You’ll die but you go to heaven

> You’ll probably go to hell as if you took it you probably worship Moloch but hey its not the mark the beast quite yet

Nikolai says:

“purebloods recover about as fast as from any cold or flu”

Largely agree with the post, but this was not my experience. I got delta about a year ago. Two or three days of fever, chills, no appetite, etc. which is pretty standard for a flu. But after the fever went away, I still had headaches and brain fog for about 2 weeks, which has never happened to me with any other flu. Unvaxxed and skinny and took no medicine besides nyquil.

alf says:

I would guess it depends on the variant. Got the rona ~six months ago, one and a half day of fever and headache, then full recovery. No meds.

someDude says:

Are you Nikolai Vladivostok?

Globalist Power Terminated II says:

I had no idea who “Nikolai Vladivostok” was, so I looked him up and I found this
https://www.returnofkings.com/author/nvladivostok

Nikolai Vladivostok is a writer, Socialist and denouncer of reactionary elements. He has faith that the efficiency of Soviet industry and agriculture will inevitably lead to the collapse of the West and the liberation of its Peoples. Nikolai blogs at SovietMen on topics such as economics, sex, and debauchery.

💀

I also found a based substack here, ostensibly by the same Nikolai.
https://cosmonaut.substack.com/p/managed-decline

Coping with the reality of aging populations almost everywhere. The biggest issue on Earth right now is demographics. Everything else is a sideshow.

b-based?

jim says:

“Soviet Agriculture”? The Soviet Union no longer exists, and Soviet agriculture no longer exists anywhere, even in North Korea, because infamously unsuccessful and inefficient.

Is he being ironic, or rationalizing a slow walk from being a tankie to being a reactionary? He sounds mighty reactionary for a denouncer of reactionary elements.

Wulfgar Thundercock III says:

I think that is the joke. This was 2015 and 2016, over 20 years after the Soviet Union collapsed, claiming that superior Soviet techniques would crush the West. It would be like claiming that any day now we will see the proof of American military supremacy with the defeat of the Taliban.

Globalist Power Terminated II says:

That sort of irony/joke is Vladivostok’s stock-in-trade.

The first post he put up on Return of Kings contains a rather interesting picture which he labelled: “Vladimir Putin responds to his critics“.

someDude says:

https://sovietmen.wordpress.com/

Saw him referenced on Severian’s blog at Founding questions.

Globalist Power Terminated II says:
someDude says:

Reminds me of GManifesto in that regard

Nikolai says:

No, different guy. Common Slavic name

someDude says:

Certainly, But how many Nikolais are English speaking reactionaries? So I took my chances

Kunning Druegger says:

I don’t mean to attack or prod, but I think it should be politely discouraged to explicitly connect anyone Here to any personalities, accounts, or works of creative fiction elsewhere. If the, in my opinion, entirely obvious OpSec reasoning supporting my suggestion does not suffice, consider how any creative/artist/leader feels when they’re trying to hang with the boys and chill and someone they don’t know approaches them, asks them if they are who they are, and asks for autographs or guidance or tries to critique their work. It’s just bad form.

Maybe I’m off base on this one. If so, I apologize.

someDude says:

This is certainly worth thinking about

Pax Imperialis says:

Got vaxxed with J&J about 8 months ago. No booster. Got delta about 7 months ago. Fever and no appetite for a month. Extreme fatigue and sleeping 20 hours a day, chronic pain, and myocarditis for 6 months.

Was in top physical shape for military training running 60 miles a week prior to vax and covid. My 90+ unvaxxed grandmother had more mild covid than me. My relatives in the military who got Pfizer had it even worse than me.

Cloudswrest says:

I had the double Pfizer dose about 15 months ago. Noticed no effect whatsoever, not even muscle soreness at the injection site. I refuse to get any boosters, much to the chagrin of my wife. A few weeks ago flew cross country for a big family reunion. Prophylactically took a dose of horse paste before leaving. After reunion 4 out of 7 siblings came down with Covid (all vax’ed and boosted), as well as a brother in-law and a niece. I did not catch it. Tested negative twice. Neither did my daughter who accompanied me.

Milosevic says:

I am amazed any readers of this blog got the vaxx tbh.

Cloudswrest says:

It was in the early days. And I waiting until after many of my close bio relatives (of which there are many) got the vax in order to observe their reactions, which were none.

S says:

We already had several vaxs with ‘drops in fertility’ (aka designed to sterilize people); what do you think globohomo was going to do with a vaccine everyone on Earth is supposed to get at around the same time?

Cloudswrest says:

“Drop in fertility” is not a personal concern of mine. My children are adults.

S says:

It shows intent to murder everyone. Give a vax not just for children, but taken by everyone and they go for the gold.

Aidan says:

Oddly enough, the variants I caught affected me in reverse order despite never taking the shot. I caught the OG strain in April 2020, and had extremely mild symptoms for less than a day. Delta was like a normal cold, and Omicron hit me like the flu, and left me with swollen lymph nodes for about a month earlier this year. Suspect the normal virus causes a little immune system damage, though it’s completely passed by now. Probably because I caught the latter two in winter, and was not getting enough sun.

Contaminated NEET says:

How do I get horse paste without knowing a vet, without getting ripped off, and without getting put on a list?

jim says:

It is not controlled substance. You don’t need to be a vet to administer it. It is like aspirin. I did not worry, just purchased it from a place that sold horse and cattle stuff. If you are worried that someone is going to come after ivermectin purchasers that do not have horses and cattle, just pay cash.

Cloudswrest says:
Cloudswrest says:

Before Covid there were lots of Amazon reviews of people using it for scabies and head lice, etc. without ill effects (after their doctors refused to prescribe Ivermectin for these mundane ailments) where they claimed it apparently worked like a charm! After it was recognized as a treatment for Covid Amazon deleted all the human use reviews.

jim says:

It is interesting that they purged the human use of ivermectin even before Covid.

I don’t see any rationale other than cheap, highly effective against an improbably broad range of ailments, and safe. If you have any hostile organism bugging you, there is a good chance that ivermectin will kill it, or at least screw up its life plan so that it is unable to reproduce. Lethal or seriously incapacitating to most of the eukaryote lineage, and apt to foul things up for quite a few life forms of other lineages. Deadly or incapacitating to a wide range of life forms, fine for us. What is not to like?

It even works on some cancers, possibly because cancer cells usually revert to more primitive metabolic pathways, recapitulating evolution backwards to our single celled ancestors, with the result that the mechanisms that Ivermectin shuts down in the human body, while almost irrelevant for our normal cells, a mere vestigial appendix, having long been superseded by more advanced mechanisms, are often essential for the cancer cells.

I was recently reading a Cathedral source on how wonderfully effective the sanctions are against Russia. Seems that Russians cannot get all sorts of modern western medications. Of those of them that I recognized, they are expensive and dangerous brand named and patented replacements for medications that were effective and widely used in the west until they went out of patent, and if they were all dumped in the sea, it would be all the better for mankind and all the worse for the fishes.

A2 says:

Seems that Russians cannot get all sorts of modern western medications. Of those of them that I recognized, they are expensive and dangerous brand named and patented replacements for medications that were effective and widely used in the west until they went out of patent, and if they were all dumped in the sea, it would be all the better for mankind and all the worse for the fishes.

It seems one could get pretty close to ‘modern medicine’ with ‘Amish-mode medicin’, i.e., only selecting from proven and effective medication that is out of patent. I seem to recall that most or all of the major medical innovations were already around in the 1950s or so.

Anon says:

@ jim
So does this mean that patents should be forever? Because if the drugs out of patent it slide to irrelevancy as there are no incentive in making it.

jim says:

The problem is the immortality of patents and copyright.

As long as people want to buy an out of patent drug, there is incentive to make it. What makes it slide into irrelevancy is that the FDA makes trouble for doctors that prescribe it. As we recently saw with Ivermectin.

The FDA works around the limit on patents by deprecating old drugs and vaccines and requiring the use of new drugs and vaccines.

Unfortunately, due to the collapse of science, the new drugs are usually inferior to the old. Similarly copyright was supposed to be the lifetime of the creator, plus a short period for his estate, but somehow, old Disney movies are still under copyright.

Most of the good western drugs are 1950 to 1970s, though there continued to be significant advances to about 2005, but now every genuinely valuable western drug is out of patent, so they are all being deprecated, all of them. Sometimes, often, they are deprecated in favor of a new drug with very similar effects, but sometimes, often, there really is no substitute, and they get deprecated anyway.

Karl says:

That doesn’t sound like immortality of patents at all. Quite the opposite really; when a patent dies, the FDA also kills the patented drug

jim says:

The details on the patent change, but the ailment it is sold for remains unchanged..

A2 says:

Furthermore, aspirin wouldn’t get FDA approval today, as the saying goes.

Cloudswrest says:

Often they’ll find some “defect” or “hazard” for the drug after the patent expires. Even more so for other chemical substances like pesticides and refrigerants.

Mister Grumpus says:

It’s also available in liquid form that’s typically injected into farm animals. You can buy that too, do some math, and drink a little bit. Some Dirt People are literally doing that and getting away with it.

It’s also available in pill form cheap in India, over the counter. I’m not in India either, but Pajeet at work probably knows somebody who can hook you up through the mail. And if Pajeet rips you off then maybe Amil won’t.

jim says:

What I got is the powder form, which appears to be horse feed impregnated with a small amount of ivermectin. Prophylactic dose in humans, 2.5 grams of ivermectin impregnated horse feed containing 12 mg of ivermectin, treatment dose 4 grams of ivermectin impregnated horse feed containing 20mg of ivermectin.

Because it appears to some kind of food, it is likely to go off, so I keep it in the freezer. I have a jewelry scale that that can weigh up to 20 grams and is accurate to a milligram.

Travis says:
jim says:

I would rather the horse paste – or in my case, horse powder. If you buy Ivermectin for humans, you are likely to recorded somewhere as committing sacrilege against the Awesome Might of the Awesome and Mighty Covid demon.

Ivermectin labelled for human use is tracked. Horse powder is unlikely to be tracked, because people buy a lot of it for horses and cattle, and a little of it for humans, and because you can always buy it for cash.

Travis says:

“you are likely to recorded somewhere as committing sacrilege against the Awesome Might of the Awesome and Mighty Covid demon.”

I do not give the first damn, Jim. Don’t care AT ALL.

Wulfgar Thundercock III says:

I second this. If they decide they want to come for me, I have enough of a trail that they can nail me for any number of things. Racism, homophobia, transphobia, misogyny, etc. Fuck them. Let them come and I will use their skulls as garden ornaments. The Covid Demon is a bitch, and I will prove in through the blood of its servants if they decide to try me.

Wilson says:
Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

If you live in a rural area or exurbs close to rural areas, you can get it in person from ag co-op stores.

jim says:

As official medicine goes full demon worship, veterinary science seems relatively immune, so I would rather take medications rated for horses rather than men. You can get all sorts of good stuff at your ag co-op.

Cloudswrest says:

Tractor Supply was selling it off this shelf (but behind glass) before Covid. During Covid they put up a big sign saying “Not for human consumption” and “does not help with Covid.”

PatS says:

Go to any farm or feed store and buy it over the counter.
Please make sure to get Ivermectin or Avermectin. Do not buy/use it if it has other stuff in it. Buy in paste or injectable. Take either orally (do not inject).
Most all you need to know here (excuse the Catholic stuff, unless you want to get to heaven!):
https://www.barnhardt.biz/ivermectin/

Mister Grumpus says:

There’s going to be a “remnant minority” of true believers who will remain “all in” on Russia Collusion, Bleach Hoax, Jan 6, Saint Floyd, Tranny stuff, Gaia stuff, Covid, Covid vaxx, etc^1000. ALL of it. And those motherfuckers are self-selected, firewalled, crazy, purity-motivated and DANGEROUS.

It really is a religious war. A belief-vs-belief war of skull-stacking extermination, at least asymptotically. Every day I understand this a little bit better. It’s the believers that scare me, not their beliefs per se. The believers ready to do anything to out-signal each other. Kill^7 and all that. It doesn’t take a lot of them to scare the shit out of everyone else.

Find God, guys. We’re not just packing for a road trip here. One doesn’t just logically plan his way out of this.

alf says:

. It’s the believers that scare me, not their beliefs per se.

Good one. It’s good to deal with the beliefs, but until we deal with the believers, the religious war continues indefinitely…

Mister Grumpus says:

It was Eric Striker (remember him?) who said “No logic, arguments or principles can stand up to 10 seconds of a hostile crowd shouting slogans.”

Chilling. I’ve been living in happy easy cupcake land for way too long.

Ghost says:

I never got the CV shot, despite repeated propaganda. One of my uncles did and later developed coronary artery blockage from it. He never woke from the operation and died. I wrote on here a few months back about me getting sick. Never got tested but I recovered in about a week. Like a cold but started in the lower lungs. 80 proof initially worked for a few days. Another suggestion is squeegee the sinuses with warm salt water after being in public.

I haven’t been sick since then. Must be immune. And never got the shot.

I don’t believe the hype. Just another cold mutation.

Wulfgar Thundercock III says:

Love thy neighbor and hate the wicked. It is not going to be easy or pleasant to go Old Testament, but it has to be done. There are going to be a lot of children that were sacrificed to these demons, and a lot of people who were pushed into it that are going to have to go, too. The true believers will be easy; killing someone who hates you is hardly a challenge. The merepy deluded will be much harder.

Kunning Druegger says:

This may be unnecessarily optimistic, but I think the sodomites’ reckless grab for the children of America will, in retrospect, be seen as the tactical blunder that lead inexorably to their… comeuppance.

Astralturf says:

Over ten years ago I was researching Ivermectin because I discovered it cures scabies, which I was suffering from. I read that the drug works by short circuiting some electric channel in the parasites’ nervous system, essentially electrocuting them. Recently I looked for this information but I couldn’t find it. My knowledge of chemistry and biology is much too little for me to be able to read any primary material on this topic.

We’ve all seen the stories – sensational and otherwise – about nano bots. Could this be why they hate ivermectin so? Because one dose instantly destroys all the nanotechnology they plan to put in our bodies? I actually think so.

Tech Priest says:

From https://go.drugbank.com/drugs/DB00602:

Ivermectin binds selectively and with high affinity to glutamate-gated chloride ion channels in invertebrate muscle and nerve cells of the microfilaria. This binding causes an increase in the permeability of the cell membrane to chloride ions and results in hyperpolarization of the cell, leading to paralysis and death of the parasite. Ivermectin also is believed to act as an agonist of the neurotransmitter gamma-aminobutyric acid (GABA), thereby disrupting GABA-mediated central nervous system (CNS) neurosynaptic transmission. Ivermectin may also impair normal intrauterine development of O. volvulus microfilariae and may inhibit their release from the uteri of gravid female worms.

You might kind of describe this permeability increase and resulting hyperpolarization in terms like what you used, but this mechanism wouldn’t apply to nanobots.

The lack of large side effects in humans is presumably partly due to humans not being invertebrates and also partly due to Ivermectin not crossing the blood-brain barrier.

S says:

Probably not. The nanotech appears to be microscopic pieces of metal to tear you up from the inside; I can’t think of a way for Ivermectin to interfere with that.

Also they wouldn’t know in advance the two interfere with each other and it is unlikely the tested them with each other.

Basil says:

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Wulfgar Thundercock III says:

Lol git rekt phaggot. All your comment are belong to us.

jim says:

The relevance of this link is unclear. I might have let it through had you explained it. Seems kind of random.

It is also fake neutral, which means it is covering up something, though I did not investigate which side of the dispute it is covering for. I have no idea what the truth is or what it is lying about, but I can smell lies. Liars have a little way of sidling around key facts, and I can see the shuffle, even though I do not know what key facts they are evading in this link. They are dodging around something that critically matters, though what it might be I did not investigate. They walk the walk of someone sidling around the elephant in the living room.

Basil says:

I don’t know which version is correct, but I’m leaning towards the Serbian because the argument about Muslim love for sodomy seems convincing enough to me. but maybe that’s just my prejudice. This story is indeed missing something, but I’m not deep enough in the history of the region to say what it is.

Either way, it’s funny.

jim says:

Random humor without relevance to the issues of the reaction is not welcome.

I strongly suspect that there was indeed an issue relevant to neoreaction and the dark enlightement, but if there was, neither you nor your link were forthright about it.

Doug says:

All women over 40 are Karens: determined to make decisions about what to do with everyone else’s resources that are stupid, wasteful, and expensive

jim says:

Correction. All childless women who have been unable to participate in raising nephews and nieces.

When women fail of their telos, and it is too late, they go mad.

Leon says:

What about progressive mothers? They have kids but sacrifice them to the death cult. Also, many a suburban soccer mom is a Karen.

S says:

Weak husbands. Women are following the strong horse which is the death cult.

Kunning Druegger says:

This, but also: there are very few things in life that are all one thing. While I detest the Karens I hear about in highly curated and abbreviated internet stories, I’ve read enough case files and interview transcripts to know that it is super easy to cherry pick a few things and spin up a narrative that can never be reigned back in. Consider how often Karen is the author of some mulatto wagecuck’s misery just because she refuses to accept its incompetence and laze as an excuse for deficient services. I’m sure there are a million and more evil Karens who call in mask and isolation violations, but with proper male control, this army of sharp eyed and driven she-wolves could be a potent force for rooting out hidden sodomite networks and other nefarious scum.

The Karen, like every other creature, has a proper place in the ecosystem. And, like every other creature, can ruin everything if not kept in check.

S. George Donaldson says:

This is the correct take.

Varna says:

Runet dip:

*Dissidents*
On covid demon 5th columnists https://katyusha.org/zdorove/partiya-kovida-cherez-golikovu-i-ko-gotovitsya-otkryit-vtoroj-front-v-tyilu-rossii-sleduya-strategii-czru.html

On Terry Gilliam-like hiccups of the new systems of the digitalizers https://katyusha.org/oczifrovka/czifrovoe-gosudarstvo-xoronit-zazhivo-gosuslugi-schitayut-mnogodetnuyu-mat-i-ee-detej-mertvyimi-i-otkazyivayut-v-zakonnom-posobii.html

On the Ukraine being a realtime experiment in letting globohomo take over completely from a national government https://katyusha.org/vojna/na-zapade-predlozhili-peredat-ukrainu-pod-pryamoe-upravlenie-mirovogo-pravitelstva.html Apparently foreign corps have already purchased more fertile land in the Ukraine than there is in the whole of Italy.

On great reset 5th columnists in the city of Moscow
https://katyusha.org/oczifrovka/absolyutno-udobno-innovaczionno-i-bezopasno-vicze-mer-moskvyi-liksutov-vospel-biometriyu-i-nameren-vvesti-ee-vezde.html The mayor’s office wants to roll out facial recognition payment schemes across the capital.

*Semi-Dissidents*

NATO forces in Kosovo on standby
https://tsargrad.tv/news/balkany-zhdjot-vtoraja-jugoslavija-sily-nato-v-kosovo-zajavili-o-gotovnosti-vmeshatsja_595827

Exciting title: “The scheme of four Jews”
https://tsargrad.tv/investigations/chetyre-evreja-verbujut-armiju-russkih-blogerov-dorogo_593038

*Mainstream analytical*
Serbia-Kosovo crisis possible; from Aug 1st Kosovo stops counting Serbian ID documents and such as valid on its whole territory, even the part where the Serb community lives. https://vz.ru/news/2022/7/31/1170295.html

On capitalist pig-dogs trying to great reset the planet but Russia will save the world https://vz.ru/opinions/2022/7/29/1169503.html

*Duginism*
https://www.geopolitika.ru/en

tl;rd
1) Apparently something is possibly brewing again between Serbia and Kosovo
2) Globohomo agents in high places in Russia seem intent on doing their thing

Varna says:

Apparently the Kosovo govt just kicked the can down the road for another month in order to not have this crisis today.

Mister Grumpus says:

So the big guy in Kosovo called it off as soon as Blinken had left and the baksheesh had hit his account. Let’s hope it’s just that simple.

These Albanians must know how to bullshit.

Note that Kosovo is under Kosovar/Albanian rule, rather than Jewish rule, so we can probably expect different shit-starting results.

Karl says:

How serious is this posturing about Serbs and Kosovo?

A while ago some commenter, maybe you or someone else with knowledge about the Balkans, argued that the region is rather peaceful and another war unlikely within the next generation or so.

Some Germans have bought bug-out places in Montenegro and Serbia. Outside of the EU on the fringes of the empires seemed a good place to wait for better times in the West. I’m beginning to doubt the wisdom of such purchases. Varna, what do you think about the situation?

skippy says:

Kosovo still has a NATO tripwire force in it. Nothing will happen until NATO is fully distracted or dead.

Varna says:

> Outside of the EU on the fringes of the empires seemed a good place to wait for better times in the West. I’m beginning to doubt the wisdom of such purchases. Varna, what do you think about the situation?

I’m of the retards who back in 2019 thought Moldova could be a perfect cheap shire for early retirement. Then came the covid sht and now the war shit and the great rest shit. Today I would not view Moldova as a perfect downshift euro place, but more of a potential trap.

The actual fringes of the empire, as opposed to the buffers just outside it, are Romania, Bulgaria, Hungary, Slovakia, and the Baltics. The Baltics are potentially unsafe right now; Hungary and Romania could do a Ribbentrop pact with Poland any minute now and enter the Ukraine.

Even generic SE asian places like Cambodia or Thailand and the like are no longer automatic options due to the covid reactions, and also due to the Anglo-Chinese tensions possibly doing to the region what NATO-Russian tensions are doing to the EE fringe.

Seems life itself is telling us all to not run but rather dig in where we are, nation-wise. We stay wherever we have at least some vestige on a network and/or family, and we surf the kali yuga.

Karl says:

Seems life itself is telling us all to not run but rather dig in where we are, nation-wise. We stay wherever we have at least some vestige on a network and/or family, and we surf the kali yuga.

That’s what my heart is telling me as well, but I see the leftist singularity approaching and know enough German history that even a close network of family and friends is sometimes not nearly enough to enable a family surviving really hard times.

Varna says:

Every place larger than San Marino has an area where the central madness has the least reach.

Checking out for example an overlap between least vaccine/booster uptake and voting patterns will likely help identify “plan B” places within the country itself.

Learning how to maintain an invisibility cloak concerning the eye of sauron is I believe an important basis that enables building other stuff, family survival-wise.

Where I am right now masks are returning from tomorrow. My money is divided between currencies and between bank accounts, digital storage, and hard cash. I have enough stocked food and basic meds to last the winter if major lockdowns for “uninjected vermin” kick in again. The rest is beyond my power for now.

Karl says:

It is getting harder and harder to maintain an invisibility cloak. I can pretend to be vaccinated, maybe even pretend to be a vegan, but I can’t pretend to have a tranny son. Moreover, I cannot wear the invisibility cloak when I deal with my friends who see the situation as I do. Sooner or later one of us attracts the eye of sauron and anyone associated with that poor guy will also be scrutinized by the eye of sauron.

If the leftist singularity is not stopped (and I believe that it cannot be stopped in Germany while the EU is a US client state) it will eventually advance so far, that the eye of sauron cannot be avoided, at least not for an extended family.

I’m not worried about the winter, I’m worried about the next 10 years or so and the problem is deciding what is beyond my power and what preparations should be made, even if the costs are staggering

Varna says:

I personally am in a “one season at a time” timeframe right now, because from 2019 onward nothing is a given. What the situation is 10 years from now is rather unknowable.

One day at a time, one week at a time, one month at a time, one season at a time, with vague proto-plans beyond that is where I’m at. Got nothing to give in the planning for longer department.

Concerning camouflage. Some schoolgirls in the west have consciously or not learned to mimic the environment to suit their needs. The ones who want to stay virgins until they meet the one now say they are asexual genderfluids or some such. That way, instead of being bullied to death, they don the invisibility cloak until the time they find the one.

Not that I morally approve of this, but the precedent is there.

Having a weed leaf patch on casual clothes can do wonders for the globohomo surveillance algorithm. Posting pics of Uhura if fan of Shatner. Of Arnold’s valkyrie chick and mongoloid sidekick if fan of the original Conan flick and so on.

No namefag posting and no facefag posting on serious topics unless one has made an existential choice and is willing to pay the price.

GNON's POWER SHALL TRIUMPH says:

No namefag posting and no facefag posting on serious topics unless one has made an existential choice and is willing to pay the price.

For those of us who are, as currently I am, contemplating doing something serious and lethal, I present these two songs:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKSYgs7TUZo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRNXZH5vh-A

Varna says:

There’s going to a long struggle ahead and hopefully some, at least regional, rebuilding.

Going publicly full rogue can be a blow against current evil, if carried out impeccably, without giving any easy chances to be turned into a tool of the narrative, but I still see this as a last resort.

Sometimes a guy has only one thing to give, and this is his life. If there is anything at all *other* to give, then it can be wise to practice self-restraint and do the good work in other ways.

The leftist faction of globohomo as well as the various tribes and quasi-tribes didn’t succeed through the naive anarchist bombings for example that they started out with. They succeeded through long-term work, including the long march through the institutions, and narrative shaping.

But even sometimes just proving a good culture-jamming signal at the correct time and place can be worth a thousand sardaukars.

One major Achilles heel of cultists, leftists very much included, is that if you shake their faith in the inevitability of their implicit or explicit prophecies, they become quite demoralized.

If blows against the system are of such nature that they contribute to the demoralization of its bio-cells, and not to mobilization, that’s a major win.

Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

Some interesting parallels between the festivities in the ukraine and the Spanish Civil War. In particular, a whole clown world of anglo-sphere celebratii descending like flies on shit to gawk at the happenings while bloviating gaseous emanations of useful idiocy to stink up the discourses back hope, which continued unimpeded right along up too (and for that matter past) the point San Francisco finished physically removing the communist international forces.

The astrology would imply that while this particular episode may not be the moment WW3 kicks off, it presages an ideologically blinkered tastemaking class that is sleepwalking its way into global conflict, one way or another.

Cloudswrest says:

Standard complaint, but nothing demonstrates male/female inequality better than the wall. Once women lose their pussy pass they have to compete with men on an equal footing, and the vast majority can’t.

https://www.breitbart.com/entertainment/2022/07/31/brooke-shields-once-a-woman-is-over-40-theyre-put-out-to-pasture/

Fidelis says:

Jim’s method of reproduction: find the least-used whore you can. Play act as a potential methhead to keep her around. Struggle the entire time against shittests that could ruin you entirely if failed. Have 3 kids.

Elon inspired method of reproduction: find the least-used whore you can. Have fun and hide her BC pills and or go for IVF maxxxing. Pass shit tests only until your kids are born, then just stop worrying. When she gets too insufferable move on to the next one. Keep your assets offshore and in privacy coins, work crypto contracts or businesses pseudonymously. Pay no taxes to the GAE machine and as much child support as you feel like to the baby momma. Have more than a dozen kids, with maximized diversity of traits through different mothers.

someDude says:

Elon’s method is out of reach for most people. Jim’s method works for us, Thank you very much. Life is a struggle by its very nature and Jim does not sugarcoat that fact. Evolution itself something that arises out of the organism struggling against and to better adapt to it’s environment.

What is YOUR method of reproduction?

Starman says:

Looks like Elon’s method of reproduction is much more successful than Jeff Bezo’s method of reproduction.

Andy says:

We’ll know who’s more successful when the grandkids and great grandkids roll in. Elon currently has 10 kids, one who died in infancy of SIDS and one who is apparently a M2F tranny. Jeff currently has four kids, I believe, three boys and an adopted east asian girl. Let the games begin.

someDude says:

Where did Jeff Bezos come in? This was between Jim and Elon

Fidelis says:

I pump and dump desi broads. Give them the needful.

Elon’s method is not out of reach at all. I know plenty of guys with >6 kids across 3-4 baby mommas. It’s not common to see among middle class guys but that’s by design. Usually they are the cucks paying for the kids. Requires the exact same skillset as keeping a single woman and struggling to get to two kids, hoping you don’t get a test you cannot pass. It’s not like you need more game to dump your seed and move on, you need less, and the loss conditions are less too.

Wulfgar Thundercock III says:

You are ceding the reproduction battle to women, and basically giving up any hope of a functioning civilization.

someDude says:

Precisely so! If the Dad is not around, as Fidelis seems to think is ideal, the kids will turn out savages, and not in a good way.

Pooch says:

If the dad is not around, the boys turn gay and the girls turn into whores. Single motherhood is not a successful reproduction strategy.

Anonymous Fake says:

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Anonymous Fake says:

[*deleted for utter disconnection from reality*]

Fidelis says:

According to Jim, women are seeking an ALPHA IM ALPHA NIGGUH LOOK IM ALPHA to own them. That’s their reproduction strategy. They don’t really want to be left with the kids while the guy goes and picks another woman. Why is it my job to rebuild civilization. Alone. You faggots are too scared of the glowniggers to form a working church, so I get all of the downsides of having to keep a woman and none of the broader social upside? Nah. I’m gonna give a little light beating and a helping of seed and dip out.

>All kids without exception are failures without a father
Cope. Compare Arnie’s mexi maid son and the sons he had with his wife. Succes and failure of your offspring is genetic. Maximize the number of offspring, maximize the chances you have a few good heirs. By the way, not cutting contact here, just not putting all the time and energy demanded by women into keeping them. They want to throw up a bunch of shit tests? Okay you win dumb bitch I’m moving on. My sons can visit me or call anytime, and the ones who fail can be compensated for by the ones who do not.

Kunning Druegger says:

This is so ham fisted and stupid, I almost believe it was written by some angry dike trying to troll us.

Women don’t have a reproductive strategy, they have attention seeking inclinations, period. Full stop. Ascribing any further agency, in terms of mating ritual or practice, is you being an Amerimutt faggot. Don’t do that, faggot.

So many kids without fathers are worthless, or pointless, or meaningless, that it is not necessary to make calculations using the rounding errors that escape the likeliness pitfalls. How to convey this in parlance that will speak to you… ah: tell me you’re a mixed race, single parent child without telling me you are a mono-mommy mulatto: https://blog.reaction.la/science/covid-public-service-announcement/#comment-2846568

>Okay you win dumb bitch I’m moving on.
>Okay you win dumb bitch
>Okay you win
>you win
You lose when they win, you participation trophy collecting cockmongler. But this all a waste of time; you don’t have kids because the “women” you fuck have either feminine benis or birth control addictions. Feelsbatman.

Fidelis says:

Mostly failing to address the argument. You are resorting to emotional appeal and nitpicking.

> Women don’t have a reproductive strategy, they have attention seeking inclinations, period
Fair enough. My language was responsive to the argument I was replying to, but inexact. Without getting too deep into semantic dispute, you could say this is an instinctual strategy. Seek attention, get impregnated. Cause trouble, get put down or accelerate kidnapping. It’s not mediated consciously though, you are correct here.

> So many kids without fathers are worthless, or pointless, or meaningless, that it is not necessary to make calculations using the rounding errors that escape the likeliness pitfalls
Prove this contention. Give us numbers and bounds, and we can compare likelihoods of successful heirs when maximizing offspring by limiting the energy expenditure on women that break cooperate/cooperate by imposing needless costs.

>You lose when they win, you participation trophy collecting cockmongler. But this all a waste of time; you don’t have kids because the “women” you fuck have either feminine benis or birth control addictions. Feelsbatman.
Overemotional and pure ad hominem. Arguing like a woman, this fits nearly into the behavior described by the “arguing with holes” copypasta.

Kunning Druegger says:

>Give us numbers and bounds, and we can compare likelihoods of successful heirs when maximizing offspring by limiting the energy expenditure on women that break cooperate/cooperate by imposing needless costs

Lol, no. It is plain to any man with eyes and a brain that children with no fathers become useful idiots and sluts, grist for the progressive, society grinding mill. Trying to argue otherwise is gay as fuck. With the way you write, you should know better.

Let’s call a spade a spade here: you want to fuck whores and you’re afraid of fatherhood because it is basically impossible to be a good father without the State and “””Society”””” coming after you. That’s fine, it is not a simple problem and the forces arrayed against us are terrifying and vindictive. But you go too far; you want a pat on the head for being a coward. You want it to be a tenet of our faith, so you can then obviate the feelings of cowardice and inadequacy. This is weakness.

GNON calls us to rise up, to rip a new course for the future from the hands of the demon worshippers, and to regain God’s favor and continue the march to the stars. Your desire to fuck strange pussy is irrelevant. Your desperate attempts to avoid fatherhood in an unjust and broken world are pointless. You are foot soldier material, and that’s fine. Any worthy human endeavor needs cannon fodder. But to be an officer in good standing, to be a noble in a GNON compliant society, to be a good leader of men, need obedient wife and obedient children. There’s really no getting around this. You can have those things and a legion of bastards, but you must have those things, or your legion of bastards are just a recruitment pool for the Enemy.

The Cominator says:

“Women don’t have a reproductive strategy”

Women do not have a CONSCIOUS reproductive strategy. Subconsciously they do but feminist programming that puts womens conscious desires directly at loggerheads with their subconscious desires and cathedral policy making men artificially low status fucks this up for both sexes mostly.

Jim and others here tend to think bastards are overwhelmingly demon spawn and maybe today this is true when they are often fathered by say petty drug dealers from the lower classes… this has kind of been the view in the Victorian era but it wasn’t entirely the view prior to it. I have a theory…

Prior to the Victorian era and the time immediately before high status generally genetically fitter men tended to make a lot more bastards than they did following the post Victorian era (Napoleon talked about this so lets use his time as a cutoff) and they weren’t thought of as negatively prior as they were since… so it may be more a question of nature than of nurture.

Kunning Druegger says:

To be a strategy, it has to be conscious, but otherwise we are in agreement.

I am not in the “bastards are demon spawn” camp, though they do tend to be a burden. I’ve stated before that I am one of those willing to shoulder this burden, as far as God compels and empowers me to do so. Nonetheless, all children from single parent homes are a burden to society at many levels and in many ways. I believe it is a positive feedback loop, but I may be misapplying that term.

Bastards, like blacks and gays, can comfortably exist in a healthy, productive, and effective society, just as a healthy man can drink alcohol and use narcotics. But the saturation and frequency and mitigation of unhealthy side effects is critical. Blacks must be tightly managed and constrained, otherwise they breed prodigiously, and their problems multiply excessively fast. Ditto for bastards; so long as they are shunted into places and positions that curtail their negative aspects, there’s a place for them. Gays are like highly corrosive substances: they must be contained and secured far away from everything. We went over it recently; if you are having to hunt them, the problem is out of control. I don’t know what the healthy saturation level is, if there is one. Maybe there isn’t, and they must be judiciously rooted out every generation.

Red says:

I am not in the “bastards are demon spawn” camp, though they do tend to be a burden.

I’m in that camp. Everyone I grew up with from a single parent home turned out to be a net negative on everyone around them. Drug dealing, petty crime, suicide, etc.

On the other hand my own family line comes from a rich lumber tycoon knocking up his young maid who was then quickly married off to a local farmer. My great grandfather was wild and always in trouble but he was much more successful than his true born brother’s and sisters(much higher IQ).

When people of better genetics knocks up the lower classes, there a net improvement in the quality of people, but bastards are still trouble for the people who have to deal with them. When lower class shits spawn bastards left and right there’s no benefit to anyone.

Kunning Druegger says:

I know you are, bro. You’ve made stellar arguments in support of your position, and I refuse to agree based on my emotional attachments to fatherhood, children, and the lost & damned of which I am one (not a bastard though, lol can u imagine how much that would suck?)alone, but I know my position is one of softness, and would be untenable if I were some kind of representative of Jimian Christianity IRL. But while we stay here in the space of theory, I am ok with clinging to an untenable position, if only to serve as a whetstone for m8s like you.

Not to flog the equine, but if you had to make a list of every category that is a net negative on society, you’d save a lot of time by making a list of the net positives. The goal of the Frankfurt School was to take as many as they could out of the Kulak column and get them stuck, forever, in the prole/feeder column. And it worked. Most, if not all, bastards are a burden on society at many levels, but consider how many children from good homes, backgrounds, and stock also become burdensome.

This is part of why I am such a broken record on fatherhood. If we could only change a single thing, remove one variable from the equation, I would fight to the death for it to be Single Motherhood. It has destroyed not only multiple generations, it has programmed the social subconscious well past the point of correction. If we eliminated single motherhood, the Comminator Solution would become overkill, pun intended. Understand, I am not saying the CS is incorrect or unnecessary, but I do think single motherhood really is the linchpin that has consolidated the Cathedral’s march through the institutions.

someDude says:

All organisms have a reproduction strategy. Human Women would hardly be an exception. But as Jim, points out, their strategy is dysgenic given human progress over the years. Their strategy is 2 million years out of date.

The Cominator says:

I think the feminist mind control waves make this far far worse though

1) Being told they should want equality or even superiority

2) Being effectively made higher status than men

3) Being taught that larping as a lesbian or some other kind of deviated prevert is cool

It immensely fucks up their sexual behavior and targeting system (also so many being fat) only the most immensely antisocial men can break thru really and while Jim can do it I just can’t.

The Cominator says:

To expand on this that I do think feminist education and social conditioning are a huge part of the problem lets look at an unusual historical example… the daughter’s of Charlemagne.

Charlemagne would not let any of his daughters marry, he claimed it was due to partiality (and this may not be entirely untrue) but given Frankish custom of equal inheritance of heirs he probably did not want them having legitimate male heirs which would lead to an excessive division of his domain and making an all out civil war inevitable. And given that he refused even the Byzantine Emperor (which normally most royal houses would have jumped at) a marriage particularly heirs with perhaps the backing of a foreign army.

He did not force them into the nunnery or force them to live like nuns, merely after they had children born they would have to go thru the humiliating ritual of swearing in front of witnesses that no marriage between her and the child’s father existed and that the children were bastards born out of an extramarital lustful union. But they still despite having high status (their dad the Emperor was living in the same household always) and no effective male control they all steadily had children until Charlemagne died and Louis the Pius DID send them to convents.

The Cominator says:

Yes if I were inclined to leave my dna in a bunch of strippers I could have done so, if I were so wealthy as Elon I probably would have done so.

someDude says:

Hahahahaha! I’m sure you wouldn’t

Varna says:

You paint a spot on their foreheads and out them in a sari and apparently all these chicks look identical.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:OttomanEmpireMain.png
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greater_Iran
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greater_India#/media/File:Indian_cultural_zone.svg

Except where the westernmost fringes of the former ottoman empire gets too slavic in the fair and pale sense, and where the eastern fringes of greater india start getting mongoloid. Aside from this they’re all from the same bloody factory.

Not that I’m complaining mind you. Just my type. Old world non-latina dusky nom nom. And the best ones appear to be here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Caucasian_Federal_District
and the darkie republics here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volga_Federal_District

http://top-antropos.com/images/11/%D0%90%D1%81%D1%8B%D0%BB%D1%8A%D0%AF%D1%80.jpg
http://top-antropos.com/images/13/new/%D0%90%D0%BB%D1%8C%D1%84%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B0%20%D0%9D%D0%B0%D1%81%D1%8B%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B0.jpg
http://top-antropos.com/images/19/Caucasus/%D0%90%D0%BB%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B0%20%D0%91%D0%BE%D0%B3%D0%B0%D1%82%D1%8B%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B2%D0%B0.jpg
http://top-antropos.com/images/22/%D0%A4%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BC%D0%B0%20%D0%94%D0%B7%D0%B8%D0%B1%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B0.jpg

Kunning Druegger says:

Those are some very pretty maids and waitresses you got there, lmao.

Varna says:

“serving wenches” I believe is the term.

Adam says:

If you fail your sons, you fail yourself and your telos. Very easy to abandon daughters, they are better equipped for this and will not suffer greatly (as far as reproduction). Sons without a masculine father, an admirable man to look up to and take after struggle mightily.

Young and beautiful women do not need any more help than what they are born with. Sons need all the help they can get. As a father, nothing is better than watching your son take after you, and watching his courage grow, after all the sacrifices you made to make sure he learned the right lessons at the right time.

Much good is said about Elon here, but if he is letting his sons grow up alone to fight for themselves, and to learn everything the hard way, he is a selfish cunt and both his sons and himself will be punished.

The Cominator says:

For a normal man yes…

For Elon… direct raising would cast a shadow over you its unlikely you could live up to and they’ll be well provided for.

alf says:

And so you have to accept your son becoming a tranny and wanting nothing to do with you? Elon is doing many great things, raising his kids is unfortunately not one of them..

The Cominator says:

He has many other sons and any son who could be persuaded he wanted to be a tranny under any circumstances (other than maybe years of specially designed full on torture I do not imagine there are any circumstances where I could be convinced I wanted to be a tranny)… probably would have been a terrible investment.

alf says:

It’s a fuck you to dad. And if one son very publicly says fuck you to dad, high probability that the family dynamic is not exactly tippy top.

The Cominator says:

If I wanted to fuck you to dad that badly I was willing to mutilate myself… given how old fashioned I am I’d simply commit suicide.

alf says:

That would probably also get the message across.

Andy says:

Earlier this year there were some items in various entertainment publications about Grimes keeping company with that Bradley Chelsea Manning creature. If true, doesn’t bode well for those two particular offspring of Elon’s, unless he has some good nannies minding them.

Adam says:

Not what I see. Look at Trump and his sons.

Your always going to be the alpha to your children. When they mature, and you start treating them as adults they will accept that role and form their own identity.

Weak fathers, either absent or overbearing will prevent their child from maturing and forming their own identity.

Strong fathers are not competing with their sons. Your house is his house. Your name is his name. You are helping him, and he is helping you. There is a distinction between you, the father is the authority and is responsible for the son, but whatever is the fathers will one day be the sons.

Red says:

Elon’s unable to own a woman and his children, just like most men because it’s effectively illegal. So within that frame he’s done about as well as he’s able.

Trump’s interesting because he clearly raised his Sons well but failed to use them as assets when trying rule the US government. Instead he used his daughter and kike son in law who of course stabbed him in the back.

alf says:

His first divorce did not seem to me like a man unable to own his woman. Seemed to me Elon violated the biblical command to love and cherish your wife.

Wives are like flowers: they need constant watering. Sometimes, annoyingly much. But it’s part of the deal. Family life demands time and attention, and instead of adapting to that, sounded to me like Elon quite unreasonably demanded his family adapted to his Elon-time life.

Fidelis says:

You follow jimblog and yet here you are pretending as if the news article you read, written from the perspective of the woman no less, had valuable truth to extract.

If we’re just ad hoc inserting biblical rules here, something about turning cheeks might suffice. How many attacks from your woman failing to fulfill her role, failing to fulfill the role of Eve whose husband shall rule over her. Instead rebelling and attempting to stifle the function of the family out of an animal narcissism that she deserves better. How many attacks, while not living in a tribe community society or anything actually there to capture the fruit of your efforts, should.you accept. How many miles, Alf.

Kunning Druegger says:

Something about you feels off. Is there some kind of nigger cock in your mouth while you type or something? There’s this slurring homosexuality to your prose, it just feels like a fedshill that made a compelling powerpoint for his masters…

“Please, Lieutenant Shim/Sher, let me post unmonitored for 2 weeks and I’ll have them! I’ve studied the Tolkien Explanation Documents and I am up to speed on the Pole jokes! Let me bag these Christian Nationalist terrorists before they try to damage a synagogue with their HATETHINK!”

alf says:

You follow jimblog and yet here you are pretending as if the news article you read, written from the perspective of the woman no less, had valuable truth to extract.

Yes, I obviously feel like there is some truth to be extracted from her story.

In her story, she complains that she had to sacrifice her family life for Elon’s career. They weren’t a family, they were an accessory to Elon’s lifestyle, and when she complains, he berates her and makes her feel unloved:

In the spring of 2008, eight years after our wedding, a car accident served as my wake-up call. The moment of impact seemed suspended in time: The details of the other driver’s face, looking at me in horror as she held a cell phone to her ear, were so clear it was like the distance between us didn’t exist. There was a crunch of metal as her car plowed into mine, and when we skidded to a halt, my first thought wasn’t, Thank God nobody’s hurt. It was, My husband is going to kill me.

Sometimes, or perhaps somewhat frequently, your wife demands you slow down for her, give her attention, spend time with the kids. Elon refused to slow down.

Fidelis says:

Unresponsive.

>women have valuable perspectives. Elon was being a meanie.

Okay lol. You may have had a point if not for the fact Long Muskrat is wildly successful. Maybe his wife should have cooperated instead of making demands. Now she is used goods, and mother to a tranny. But no, it’s the man’s fault. Typical of you, maybe you are a Buckleyite.

> refused to address womans failure to follow biblical law, instead attacks the man.

Yet more ignoring the bad behavior of women. You didn’t address this because you cannot, not without acknowledging women are behaving badly and breaking the cooperate/cooperate equilibrium themselves.

A2 says:

“Something about you feels off.”

Yes it does. I’m curious if this character is redpilled on women to begin with.

alf says:

Okay lol. You may have had a point if not for the fact Long Muskrat is wildly successful. Maybe his wife should have cooperated instead of making demands.

If she were a better woman, perhaps she would ‘ve stuck with him. Does not excuse his behavior, and the resulting tranny son does not speak for his reproductive strategies. You can’t delegate raising your kids to strangers, whether they be the state or nannies.

I’m curious if this character is redpilled on women to begin with.

He has the typical unearned agression of a shill.

Fidelis says:

You defend the purity of women, and I am the shill.

“Anyone who disagrees with me is a shill”. Kek.

Women are feral creatures incapable of civilization without the yoke of marriage imposed by organized violence. They, unconsciously but relentlessly, seek to get themselves carried off and impregnated by the nearest fit male starting even before pubescence, and thusly must be kept under lock and key. Rights must be granted to the father to protect the integrity of his property, failure to do so results in the disintegration of civilization itself through endless lowlife losers with impulse control multiplying themselves through unowned women. Unowned women who pay for the loser to live off of petty crime while collecting money from betas to raise his demon spawn.

That good enough for you? Of course not, because I actually claim women are capable of behaving badly.

You want some more? Niggers are a lesser species, incapable of civilization or cooperation, and since the advent of industrial machinery, serve no purpose. Total Nigger Death.

Soros is an old faggot funded by NGOs funded by the state department to spread GAE degeneracy worldwide. Jews are a group capable of civilization but not cooperation. Should be totally expelled for the 110th? time.

What other shibboleths do you want? Can you not accept that perhaps someone thinks your behavior is cucked? A weak grasping at the fumes of a dying civilization, incapable of success until this cycle has passed?

Kunning Druegger says:

Fidelis, there’s room for a spectrum of perspectives. Alf and I are both on what could be called a softer side of the Jimian Christian tribe. We serve a purpose here, and we are part of the hierarchy of this tribe. You have every right to come at Alf for the things he types, but “rights” are for faggots and minorities. Privileges and responsibilities are for men.

It is canon that women have no agency, and any agency imparted, formal or informal, by any systemic force, is illusory and evil *unless* said agency comes through a man and is thus contingent upon the man. It is the same as having a dog; whatever the dog does, it is ultimately the responsibility of the man that owns it.

So, feral women: what is to be done? Much, and much more, undeniably. But what is not helpful or necessary is further empowering liberated women to further decay our dying society by whelping bastards and collecting gibbs. Creating more single mothers and bastards is counterproductive, and enshrining that kind of activity as either good conduct or biological prerogative is stupid and evil.

You wield shibboleths well enough, but that’s merely one aspect of this place. Another aspect, equally critical if not more so, is knowing and abiding by your place in the hierarchy. Alf is not some untouchable priest who needs my protection, but he is a priest that deserves your respect and deference. If he’s wrong, he’s wrong. Again, I implore you, stranger: don’t be a fucking faggot.

Red says:

If he’s wrong, he’s wrong. Again, I implore you, stranger: don’t be a fucking faggot.

Well said.

alf says:

That good enough for you?

Honestly good enough for me. Pass on the women shill test.

Fidelis says:

I’m not here to participate in a larp, and I’m not here to placate your feelings. You continue to fail to address any arguments and instead say I am not providing for your emotional needs. There is no hierarchy because this is a blog comments section you idiot. If I am wasting space just have my comments deleted; I’m not wasting space because I am engaging directly with the suppositions of NRx thought as expressed here.

Here is further elaboration, maybe you can actually engage without emotive reasoning (you might want to try TRT btw, and make sure you take your arimidex):

There is a predicate that genetic and memetic replication of the self is good. The supposition of this blog: accepting that predicate, you should mime the behavior as expressed in the old testament with respect to family, as this pattern best allows genetic and memetic replication of the self. My supposition: this only applies during times of effective group selection. We do not live under effective group selection, there are no ongoing mass genocide and enslavement events acting on our population. Under our current conditions it is more effective to fulfill the predicate through lottery-like maximization of offspring. One of your children may hit the right conditions to have an absurd number of offspring, in the order of hundreds to thousands https://bioedge.org/beginning-of-life-issues/dutch-man-may-have-fathered-1000-children/ .

The advice given here to simultaneously emulate group selection mating rituals while shunning the actual formation of a group is foolhardy. You are merely limiting capacity. Either advocate group formation or stop advocating group selection based social rituals at large.

Kunning Druegger says:

> there are no ongoing mass genocide and enslavement events acting on our population

That you typed this statement out is about all the proof I need that you are wasting space

> it is more effective to fulfill the predicate through lottery-like maximization of offspring

This is the tortured logic of the inner city ammie that plays the lottery her entire life without fail, regardless of the obviousness of its futility. A further nail in the coffin is the hilariously persistent occurrence of people winning the lottery and losing it all, ending with their destruction or resumption of their pre-victory lifestyle.

I still maintain my position that you’re off, though I agree with Alf that you pass on the RPWQs. But your argument is basically “have a bunch of kids and one of them might end up like you, maybe.” This is just dumb. Why would you come to this place and be dumb like that? Isn’t reddit purpose-built for dumb people to share dumb ideas? Have you considered going back to reddit?

Fidelis says:

You are still emotionally charged. Chill out bro. Maybe your wifey can give you some head. She listens to you, right?

> no argument just accusation
Cannot genocide an individual, and we have no group. Compare to the events of the early 20th century if you want to see what group genocide is; we have mere destructive dysfunction.

> argument that addresses semantic choice rather than content of the position
How about you give examples related to human reproduction instead of making comparisons that are completely unrelated to the context. You may as well have said lottery tickets are made of paper and paper is not very strong so you lose iamverysmart.

alf says:

Under our current conditions it is more effective to fulfill the predicate through lottery-like maximization of offspring.

There have been a number of cases in which gynacologists turned out to have provided their own sperm to tens if not hundreds of couples. Chalk it up to Gnon’s sense of humor.

Are such strategies feasible for the average man? When I was younger I tried donating to a sperm bank — but mine couldn’t be frozen. So not for me.

Do I regret that? Hard to say. Purely genetically speaking, it’s hard to argue how twenty of your kids raised by strangers is not a Darwinistic win in some way. Overall I think I’m glad I did not get involved, the thought of my offspring growing up with a fag couple would hunt me. But hey, maybe I’m soft.

Still, what would you suggest doing outside sperm banks? Impregnate and run? I think that’s more work than it seems…

Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

>while shunning the actual formation of a group

Where does anyone ever imply this anywhere here? Rather, the necessity and importance of bunds, building bunds, and proofing bunds against entryism and other forms of subversion, is like the whole of the object; and likewise, the bending of all means of culture, society, and ideology, to atomize the cattle, and to atomize strait huwhyte men in particular, precluding them from organizing in any way that is outside of the converged runnels premade to channel them into, is the biggest factor underlining the yet extant regime’s continued predominance for now.

Reductive dichotomization like this makes you sound like you’re trying to set up a focused-grouped consensus-crack wedge.

If you want to get mad at passivists, they aren’t here, but you could sent an email to namefag yarvin and tell him how much of a cuckold he is.

Kunning Druegger says:

Of course I’m emotionally charged; some faggot interloper is spreading bad information in a place I hold dear. Again, you’re arguing for approval of weakness and cowardice. I don’t have to explain with facts and figures that you are a faggot. The bundle of phalluses you continue to devour is proof enough. You’re wasting time and space with non-arguments. Nothing you’ve submitted moves the needle in favor of your notion.

How many kids do you have?

How much land do you have?

How many brother-warriors do you command?

Starman says:

Fidelis is right.

Starman says:

@Kunning Druegger

“[Responding to Fidelis passing the thoughtcrime test] You wield shibboleths well enough, but that’s merely one aspect of this place. Another aspect, equally critical if not more so [ha ha], is knowing and abiding by your place in the hierarchy.”

Hierarchy? In the recently GRIDS-addled Jim’s Blog comment section?

Put your crackpipe down.

Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

The future belongs to those who show up. And if the selection pressures of circumstance require niggardry to reproduce, then the descendants of who can larp niggardry will show up.

Social lionization of feminism is social lionization of niggardry, since feminism is but itself merely emanations of 10,000+ year old wetware for assessing mate value and selecting for valuable mates.

Niggardry is of course not without consequences. The question is can a folk overcome the parties enforcing the feminine imperative of niggardry, or at least survive through their implosion, before their patrimony suffers terminal dysgenics. A crucial fact to note is that your enemies also suffer from those consequences – they just happen to be assiduous in making sure everyone else also suffers consequences.

Things getting worse is bad, but things getting worse also means the opportunities to win become ever easier.

Wulfgar Thundercock III says:

Starman, there is absolutely a hierarchy around here, however informal. Which is why you get run out when you get a little too mouthy with the wrong person. There is always a hierarchy among men. That is not even Reaction 101, that is something like Reaction 091; remedial social understanding for the excessively autistic. Fidelis is not right. He might have seemed right a few years ago, but the tranny demon is stalking the kids of single mothers, and the niggers and ragheads are getting most of the rest. If you have 20 kids, you would be lucky to get the three kids he mocks through the massive selection filter.

To put this simply, who survived the Bronze Age Collapse, Fidelis-levels of niggary or a bunch of patriarchs working together and herding their women like they herded their sheep?

Kunning Druegger says:

How many kids, Starman? How much land? Right now, if all you had was a phone, how many guys would drop what they were doing and come to your aid?

Pump and dump is a strategy for people renting space on the planet. Building families and building up property is what colonizers and warriors do. Which are you?

Starman says:

@Wulfgar Thunderpussy

“Starman, there is absolutely a hierarchy around here, however informal. Which is why you get run out when you get a little too mouthy with the wrong person. There is always a hierarchy among men.”

LOL. On a fucking comment section infested with midwits?
I’ve been here much, much longer than you and Kunning Druegger have. You goddamned mediocrities will never be the equal of shaman and the other OG commentators here.

Oh, by the way Kunning Druegger, don’t ever ask me Antifa style doxxing questions about my family.

Kunning Druegger says:

topkek, whatever you say, Mr. No-kids & No-land. How is Gab treating you? Hope you have better info sanitization there than you do here lel

The Cominator says:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZe-eb-v0Ng

KD if you want to play imaginary hierarchy than Starman outranks you, Jim and Alf can chastise him and I (not outranking him but about equal) can as well (and we did during the period after the election when he was immensely pissed and petulantly demanding video evidence for things which can’t be shown using video evidence) but you can’t.

Stop striving for status points on a comment forum… its not going to get you money or bitches. Its just one of the few places where we can discuss the horrors of clownworld.

Fidelis is for the most part objectively right, there is no group cohesion among us organization IRL right now is still basically impossible. It may become possible relatively soon as entropy further hits the GAE security forces but its not there yet.

Pooch says:

The future belongs to those who show up. And if the selection pressures of circumstance require niggardry to reproduce, then the descendants of who can larp niggardry will show up.

American niggers aren’t reproducing. Black fertility in the US is below replacement and continues to decline. Doesn’t seem like a winning strategy to emulate.

The psychological and economic effects of single motherhood upon young men, regardless of race, is ultimately negative in terms of reproductive success.

Kunning Druegger says:

“Delusional basement dwellers with no kids and no property declare mindless sex with 4s a winning reproductive strategy.” Fucking lol.

I’m not going to say anything more because you might start whining about personal attacks. Again. Or covid. Again.

Fidelis is wrong, and I still think he’s a plant, or just the next faggot sent to D&C. As you and starchink seem to have lost sight of the OG discussion, he is saying Jim is wrong, and that we should emulate niggers. For me and my house: fuck niggers, fuck wiggers, fuck NEETs, fuck bugmen, and fuck every man with no woman no land and no kids. End of discussion for me.

These are all things that could be fixed, and for the valuable lads here who may not be living GNON compliant at the moment, I earnestly hope and pray you work towards being so. At no point will I support or endorse niggory diggory as a viable strategy, and it is frankly embarrassing that it is the self admitted midwit pointing this out.

As for starman, he has explicitly stated that he isn’t “one of us” and looks down on this place. So while I appreciate his past contributions, that pog-ass faggot can pound sand in mommy’s backyard for all I care.

Wulfgar Thundercock III says:

Starman, do I need to bully you out of here again? I have been here for plenty long enough to know better than to endorse stupid shit like negro mating patterns just because Musk does it. Musk is not a perfect human, and he is not going to let you touch his peepee no matter how much you eslobber his knob. There were plenty of smart communists back before they started selecting for stupid non-whites. Smart and wise are not the same thing.

Musk should be raising his children and have them help him with his rocket plans. His failure to do so is a blatant failure, and no amount of cope is going to make it anything other than a failure. His sons should learn rocketry at his feet and his daughters should be used to enlist sons in law to his work. Instead he has a tranny, sons who do not respect him, and daughters that will end up as lawyerettes.

The Cominator says:

Wulfgar at the time Starman had to be “bullied” he had a bit of a nervous breakdown following a series of disastorous events and the breakdown manifested itself by him asking for livestreams for everything…

But he was a good poster before and I think hes a good poster now…

Wulfgar Thundercock III says:

He had another spastic fit a few months ago and I had to run him off again. I agree with you that he is a good poster, but sometimes he goes nuts and we have to turn him off and turn him back on again. If he wants to fight me, I am going to beat him like Elon Musk’s kids get beat by their stepfathers.

Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

A forum is a place where collegial discussion happens (in the original sense of the term). While there are naturally implicit status hierarchies, because there is no specific task to be performed, there is also no specific hierarchy to explicitly defer too; or to put it in other words, the discussion of the relevant topic itself is the purpose, and the judge of who joins in a collegial space to begin with is where the primary selection happens.

Or to put it in other other words, when you go to the shooting range, you bring out all your guns and fire away, and so does everyone else in the club.

Starman says:

@Cominator

“Wulfgar at the time Starman had to be “bullied” he had a bit of a nervous breakdown following a series of disastorous events and the breakdown manifested itself by him asking for livestreams for everything…”

That’s because I’ve had it with the midwits with a fake air of intellectual superiority, who began to do a bunch of Q posting without evidence (Hi Jan Martense, aswaes, Steve Johnson, and others!). They turned this blog’s comment section into pure GRIDS (Trevor Goodchild’s description). Probably before March 2020.

In March 2020, it began to be obvious.

To your credit, Cominator, you were the first to push back against these scribblers:

https://blog.reaction.la/uncategorized/off-topic-sars-cov-2-public-service-announcement/

Red says:

They turned this blog’s comment section into pure GRIDS (Trevor Goodchild’s description).

You’re still citing that moron/fed dick sucker Goodchild? Dude, he fucking promoted and defended the Patriot Front. They glows in the dark like Chernobyl.

I don’t care what tests he passes, anyone claiming that “right wing group” that drives up in uhaul trucks and gets police protection while loading back into the uhaul trucks to protect their identities is not on our side. It’s so obviously a fed op that anyone claiming they’re real is certainly either an idiot or working for the feds.

Red says:

His first divorce did not seem to me like a man unable to own his woman. Seemed to me Elon violated the biblical command to love and cherish your wife.

Alf you take the women’s words way to seriously. We’ve never heard Elon’s side of the story and there’s a reason that a women’s testimony in court was only considered half as valuable as a mans. They’ve much more likely to rewrite facts afterwards to fit their current view of themselves. Also she admitted to fucking her tennis coach or something.

Until we hear Elon’s side of events I don’t think you make that call about that marriage. What we can say for sure is Elon’s sons are not at his side building the future. That speaks poorly of him and it speaks poorly of Trump. Hell as far as I know Jim’s sons are not working with him on his projects. This isn’t the nature order, but it’s what most of us are stuck with.

alf says:

Also she admitted to fucking her tennis coach or something.

To my total lack of surprise.

This isn’t the nature order, but it’s what most of us are stuck with.

Ain’t that the truth…

Cloudswrest says:

When I was younger I tried donating to a sperm bank — but mine couldn’t be frozen. So not for me.

The EXACT same thing happened to me!!!!! Swimmers were great! But they didn’t survive freezing, so I was rejected.

Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

I suspect that ‘the samples wont freeze right’ is bureaucratese for ‘only phenotypes below [X] level of basedness allowed’.

Kunning Druegger says:

That does it. I’m going to attempt to get my white privilege frozen and see if they tell me the same thing. How many others do we need to make grandiose statements and general assumptions?

alf says:

xD

Fidelis says:

Trump followed the strategy I propose. At least three official wives. The previous generations of women were less insane, and he doubled down on sanity with a central slav woman (insert laughing slavs, you dont know what you don’t know slavbros).

Really, all the rich chads follow this strategy. Some just put more emphasis on having kids than others.

Sher Singh says:

I agree with your logic, but I’ll still rape you.
Don’t know why my comments are blocked.

Adam says:

I don’t have a problem with the second or third wives thing. Post wall women are a problem. In todays age without the ability to physically restrain them, far easier to get rid of them.

I have a problem with the lack of (apparent) paternal investment on Musks part. Clearly Trump has invested in his sons a great deal. They obviously look up to him and admire him and want to be like him.

Musk for one reason or another does not seem to be doing the same. If your sons hate you, you are a weak father, either absent or overbearing, or some combination.

If your going to play the patriarch game, as we promote here, it’s a game that lasts forever. Nobody gets to take time off. There are no special cases. Have all the wives you want, just make sure your sons are equipped to carry your name after you are gone, and able to do as you have done.

Kunning Drueger says:

I think the jury is still out on Musk’s kids. The tranny thing is bad, but the eldest of his brood was always in for bad times, all factors of timing considered. How is one a good elite father without the cover of monarchical forms? Europe was able to churn out generation after generation of adequately competent elites. The US bred an auto-genocidal plurality in 10. I know technology is a factor, but what a pathetic flash in the pan the Great Modernizers of political theory is turning out to be. Imagine the embarrassment in Heaven when the Constitutionalists find out their grand experiment was kneecapped by jew inspired negros before it was starved, shot, and gelded by the women from the HR department.

Vivat Reipublicae

Pooch says:

Trump followed the strategy I propose.

Trump at least waited until his kids were grown before he moved on to his next wife. Elon didn’t, employing the negro strategy of reproduction.

There is definitely a selection going on for successful reproduction and I see two possible successful strategies:

1) Getting as close to an Amish/traditionally religious style of life as possible. I still see very conservative/traditionalist Christian families having like 6 kids.

2) Become rich within the system. If your parents went to harvard and Yale, and your family owns a yacht and a summer house, my guess is that you are less likely to end up going through hormonal treatment. My observation is that the children of the wealthy do not tend to engage in that level of signaling. The Gavin Newsomes seem like they are still all having multiple straight kids. This is still the Trump strategy and the Musk strategy (to a lesser extent).

Anything not approaching those 2 strategies likely has a low success rate as we head further into the automation age, IMO.

Pooch says:

Just to clarify: Even if the Musk strategy turns out to result in grandchildren, it’s because he’s rich. Not because he’s using the negro strategy. The negro reproduction strategy without wealth is a losing strategy as is borne out in the declining black fertility rate.

Likewise for Trump. If Trump wasn’t a billionaire, unlikely to have so many grandchildren.

A Trump or Musk strategy employed by an average Joe is likely to result in financial ruin and gay children.

As far as the 2 strategies I’ve outlined, mixing the 2 in sort of a hybrid is an option as well.

Leon says:

I disagree on the abandoning daughters bit. We have generations of daughters not raised by fathers, or raised to be men, and they are unlikely to reproduce or reproduce with shitty men and their subsequent children wind up in the ghetto.

Adam says:

I have two daughters and a son, all late teens or adults. They are all very attractive and healthy, good genes from both their mother and myself. I am divorced.

I am fond of all three, and we are all very close. That said, should I die tomorrow, the girls will have a much easier time in life than my son. They will just start wearing less and less clothes until someone is man enough to take them. Without me in the picture, they should bond easily with that man.

My son on the other hand would have a very tough road ahead. Right now my success is his success. He works for me. He talks like me, he dresses like me. My courage is his courage. My wisdom is his guide. If I were not around, he would have to figure everything out for himself like I did, and that would set him back a decade or two.

And honestly, given that my daughters boyfriends are too scared of me to properly take my daughters in a way that they can respect (they are still virgins, even my oldest) it kind of works against them that I am around. I am not the least bit overbearing on these boys, or give them a hard time at all. I’m just big and handsome and scary looking. I honestly think I’m going to have to tell the next guy who dates my oldest that he better start fucking her or he won’t last 3 months never mind marry her.

Girls are well equipped for survival of the fittest. Much more than boys. Boys need all the help they can get.

Kunning Drueger says:

Maybe you should tell the two lads a few secrets, maybe set them on a good path and compensate them a bit for making honest women out of your daughters? I don’t know, I’m early on my path as Father, but if they’re good enough to date, they’re good enough to marry, right?

Not downing on you at all, but good men need to develop tools for putting in work on others’ children. I do what I can with the kids I am either for ed or compelled to endure for more than single occasions. I’m not handing out RPWQs to toddlers (“Jesus, Jimmy, seriously?! I mean, it’s based as fuck you chose C) evil jewish pornographers, but no one likes fedposters, son.), but I do give layered guidance and hints at the truth under truth so many of my peers seem to shy away from.

When I am placed around the older kids and young teens, I have many strategies and plans for distributing memes, but that’s pretty easy given the variables of my existence. I wonder if there’s some way to methodize courtesy and dialogue around older teens and twenty-somethings that one might become deeply acquainted with. I’m reminded of some of the dads of past LTRs. All had some knowledge and experiences to give, but most did it in a niggardly fashion. Though, that could be because I was a relentless faggot banging their daughter, so… Whatever the case, I’ve worked with enough young guys to know that they could be massively influenced by their girlfriends’dads if the circumstances were favorable.

But this is all guesswork, I can’t predict the circumstances, and maybe it’s too dangerous to lose the unapproachability factor? My fallback plan with dudes is always “wanna shoot guns about it?”, as that’s an environment in which it is pretty easy to get good reads on thought process, organizational capacity, and aesthetic sense.

Adam says:

Hardest thing is they all live with their mother. Which is not far, same town 20 minutes away. I just don’t see them that often. Girls (at least mine) are kind of like cats. Sometimes they need your attention, often not so much. So I just go with the flow and when they need me I make the effort to spend a lot of time with them and when they don’t I leave them be.

My youngest doesn’t really date yet, but my oldest is an adult, good job etc. She dates. The boys all start out alpha, and not long after they change into what she says she wants, and she gets sick of them. This last guy I thought for sure was the real deal. Big guy, manly, going to be a fireman. But sure enough, didn’t pass enough shit tests, not having sex with her, just not alpha enough.

I spread the news as much as I can, a lot of younger guys at work look up to me and we all talk about women. Certainly my son knows what’s up.

Hard to really understand what needs to be done without seeing someone do it. Memes are good, but Gnon did not intend for us to score with memes. He gave us size, strength and aggression to solve this problem. The best advice to give is just do whatever you want with them, and bros before hoes. And don’t listen to what they say. Only betas listen to what they say. If your man enough, they will break every rule in the book a thousand times over for you.

Leon says:

And yet, how many women wind up becoming whores? How many wind up childless, bat shit insane, drugged up? The claim is they need less help, but isn’t the entire culture set up to give them what they think they want? Are you sure they need less help because they are women or because the west is so matriarchal?

Andy says:

I agree. The goal of every father with daughters is raise them until they can be handed off to husbands, preferably of whom the father approves.

A2 says:

“Keep your assets offshore and in privacy coins, work crypto contracts or businesses pseudonymously. Pay no taxes to the GAE machine and as much child support as you feel like to the baby momma.”

Musk doesn’t operate that way. Simply put, he doesn’t have to.

Fidelis says:

Yeah I am not an essential component of the DoD and GAE military dominance, and I don’t intend to be. I dont get privileges granted to me, so I have to go about getting legal shielding differently. Doesnt change much but the logistics of the overall strategy.

Kunning Drueger says:

Aggressively charged insulting invective notwithstanding, can I ask how you found this place? No worries if unable or unwilling to share. Battle is still on, you State Lottery lobbyist shill commie.

Fidelis says:

It’s been so long I don’t remember. Maybe something to do with Heartiste or Nick Land, maybe some “”””rationalist”””” cuck mentioned Jim in terror.

A2 says:

With all this shiny Pelosi will-she-won’t-she, one starts to wonder what the other hand is doing.

Kunning Druegger says:

Jerking a limp coomer cock to tranny porn and visions of bug munching proles living in isolated homogenous utopian misery would be my guess.

Severian says:

China has responded by announcing major military exercises surrounding all of Taiwan, including crossing into Taiwan waters.

https://twitter.com/Nrg8000/status/1554497127019335680

Severian says:
Kunning Druegger says:

So China has lost face by letting her land, but Anglin points out that they have many ways to hit back over this act. There’s also the possibility that China still considers Pelosi an asset and they have some other operation going, but that seems like a stretch.

She still has to fly home, so is this an ongoing thing, or has it become a new thing?

Anony says:

LoL this is seem to come true
“China’s final warning” (Russian: Последнее китайское предупреждение) is a Russian proverb that originated in the former Soviet Union, and is used ironically to refer to a warning that carries no real consequences.

Kinda depressing the backlash from this , GAE is going to be 10x worse
Good upside is Xi head will roll, you don’t survive long in china while showing weekness.
However, we are still in the early hour.

jim says:

It seems you are correct.

The Cominator says:

Wow if this gets rid of Xi this will be a good thing… but its strange that Pelosi would want to undermine a Democratic party ally and leftist like Xi…

The Cominator says:

I guess there are a number of questions here

1. Can China invade Taiwan now.

2. Could China blockade Taiwan now

3. If they can do #2 but Taiwan destroys the blockading forces (ships dont do well against forts) will Xi simply nuke Taiwan

4. If Xi thinks he wont survive doing nothing will he do something even if stupid..

Mister Grumpus says:

Xi has a fist full of aces. For all I know he paid Pelosi to do this so that he can finally play them without any Chinese bitching and moaning about it.

Blockades, cutting Taiwan off from select commodities like oil or LNG or wheat for noodles, cutting the US off from chips, medicines, dildos and timing belts, I mean the list is just endless. These guys aren’t stupid.

Severian says:

Taiwan has a bunch of indefensible small islands next to the mainland. If Xi needs an urgent military victory he can take one of those and celebrate, but I don’t think he’ll do anything major against Formosa right now.

The Cominator says:

Could Xi put airstrips or missle launchers on them… if so him taking one of these small islands probably leads to wholesale war as Taiwan is likely to view one of them being taken as an existential threat…

Severian says:

I’m not talking about the archipelago right next to Taiwan but stuff like Kinman county, look it up on a map. I think they have airfields but it’s so close to the mainland (10km) I don’t think it makes a difference, nor would it ignite a war.

Varna says:

Back in 1949 Mao decreed that these islands will remain Taiwanese for the foreseeable future as an easy and inexpensive way to apply pressure from the mainland.

Perhaps the current leaders also view them as easy leverage which shouldn’t be gotten rid of unless things are starting for real.

Varna says:

The sea over there allows for an invasion from the summer — right now that is, until Jan. Then from Jan to the next summer it’s mostly impossible.

Taiwan has 14 beaches that can be used by an invasion armada. They’ve been fortifying them for 70 years.

Unless there’s some sort of “now or never” crisis, it would make more sense for Beijing to continue their slow game of Go.

Kunning Druegger says:

My take.

1. Can China invade Taiwan now?
A: Ever since US recognition in the -70s, CCP could retake Taiwan, it was merely a question of casualty tolerance and sanction tolerance. And it is the same now. Are they willing to stomach 100s of thousands of casualties to storm and conquer the rebellious province while being shunned and punished in the global marketplace.

2. Could China blockade Taiwan now?
A: They have gained this ability, but only barely, in the last ~5 years, and with every passing year their naval and air capacity expands. A strong argument could be made that this capacity is the only reason they continue down the Super Carrier path. The issue is that they open themselves up to being harassed by SKorea, Japan, and the Philippines as well as the US, UK, Aus, and probably India. But there are other ways to peel individual nation state actors out of that ad hoc coalition. China has something like 18 significant, official border disputes, and giving ground on these could be an effective way to buy indifference.

3. If they can do #2 but Taiwan destroys the blockading forces, will Xi simply nuke Taiwan?
A: I am with Anglin on this one. China is not a bloodthirsty imperial expansion dependent state. They are perfectly fine with cutting deals and letting time solve problems. If there’s a blockade in effect, with reprisal salvos aimed at any missile artillery coming from Formosa, how long could Taipei persist in sniping at the PLAN?

4. If Xi thinks he wont survive [by] doing nothing will he do something even if [it’s] stupid?
A: It really comes down to what their 2050 plan actually is, and what his coalition of support is willing to endure. They’ve lost face over Pelosi in the GAE media, but I wonder what the PLA thinks. This whole incident could very easily be rejiggered into something like “to preserve our national integrity, to protect our trading ability, to support our arctic aspirations, we must go all in on a semi-blue water navy” or some other campaign to control the threat of war-crazed American polticians. Without a window into domestic Chinese sentiment, it’s so hard to come up with even general ideas or projections.

For me, it keeps coming back to the question of why make this into such a big deal? What was the opportunity they were seeking through making such dramatic professions of “military response,” and did it go as they expected/predicted, or did they blink and back down?

I think that if we can figure out what Wang Huning is thinking, we could have the best picture of the Chinese strategy.

Mister Grumpus says:

That’s right. Very early hour. Give them at least a few days to drop a hammer somewhere. These guys are patient, and who says they’d even pre-announce what they’re doing anyway.

And the fact that this is Pelosi, who you know has been taking bribes or goodies or whatever from China forever now, just means that none of this can possibly be what it looks like on CNN.

Severian says:

It’s early in the game. Shooting her out of the sky was never gonna happen c’mon…

I TOLD YOU SO says:

I said China would do nothing.

China has done nothing.

I now say China will not launch the invasion. It will engage in exercises, violations of airspace, whatever. It will flail like an angry autistic kid. It will not start a shooting war.

Deleting correct predictions just because you don’t like them will get you real far. Keep it up. You do not understand what is going on. You only understand your own assumptions, which are increasingly divorced from what is really going on. That is why my predictions are consistently correct and yours are consistently wrong. Have fun with that.

jim says:

> Deleting correct predictions just because you don’t like them will get you real far

Which presupposes that your correct predictions have been deleted. They have not. I deleted your premature self congratulation.

And now you have made some more predictions. We shall see.

Having made one gamble, the Global American Empire is going to make another and another. Sooner or later, going to lose.

Karl says:

Having made one gamble, the Global American Empire is going to make another and another./BLOCKQUOTE>

What do you think did the Global American Empire hope to win with this gamble?

I think it was simply an attempt of the war faction to provoke a war.

Ghost says:

I can make predictions too.

I predict the US will sink one of its boats, Tonkin style. Blame it in Chinaman bad. Then pump up the war propaganda on CNN.

If, I’m wrong…

Mister Grumpus says:

I thought they were going to Tonkin Pelosi’s airplane. Still can I guess.

“Some damn thing in the South China Sea.”

Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

The mongoloid temper has a tendency towards superficiality, which can be adaptive in certain contexts, like publicly validating dysfunctional ideograms, while privately disregarding them for advantage. Folk in Communist China in later days are advantaged by this in the context of a world dominated by the imperial whig theocracy.

But this tends also to means a tendency towards flakiness when it comes to ‘resolutions’, ‘ultimatums’, ‘convictions’, ‘declamations’, ‘deals’, ‘agreements’, and so on. You can see echos of this in eurasian folk like ashkenazim as well.

Cataclysm Reawake says:

Semitic peoples are separated from us by almost as many millennia of reproductive isolation as the Orientals. If they do indeed share this trait, I very much doubt it’s because of a shared Eurasianism as you imply.

Cataclysm Reawake says:

That is, the Orientals are separated from us almost as much as they are from Semitics.

Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

Quite a remarkable coincidence then, eh?

Cataclysm Reawake says:

Yes, genetic coincidences happen. There are Irish redheads and there are Bantu (non-albinic) redheads – convergent evolution of gingerness is more likely than common descent going back countless millennia being the culprit.

Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

There’s a number of dangling threads to try and catch on too here.

One is, when i hear someone speak of ‘semites’, i think of an arabian. Sephardim and mizrahim are semitic like an arabian is semitic, because they have notable arabian admixture. The ‘archetypical’ modern jew is not so semitic like a sephardi or mizrahi is semitic though, as he is rather a descendant of those peoples who in time came to live in and around the pale of settlement, ashkenazim/khazarians/et cetera, who in turn had a not insignificant degree of admixture from successive waves of invading steppe peoples across the last millennia, like much of the central asian axis.

Another thread is, the unique curiosity of mainland chinese folkways themselves.

It may be an excusable precis to take characteristics of such folk as typical for east asian ethnities altogether, since they are after all also the most numerous subsets by far. Yet at the same time, they are also rather notably distinct in many ways. Mongolians aren’t like that. Japanese aren’t like that. Not even Koreans are really like that.

There is no east asian folk that really fits the ‘bugman’ stereotype more than mainlander chinese themselves, and i think it’s an interesting question to consider why.

The fact that it is one of the oldest running locii of contiguous social organization is likely not an unrelated factor; for with the invention of civilization by a folk, comes also novel traps of entropic dysgenis that may afflict a folk. Or in other words, conditions more adaptive for leftisms.

How many cycles of history have such folk gone through over time? What sort of human clay would most likely come out at the end of such shaping? Whether it’s autophagy of their own warrior castes (https://www.amazon.com/dp/0674970659), millennia of agriculturalism (https://xianyangcb.substack.com/p/going-with-the-grain-agriculture), or bureaucratization through the mandarinate, we so often find a common selection for unscrupulous wordceldom (scrupulously holding to convictions means you either win or you die – and how often will a median bloodline always win?); which in turn mirrors much similarities to selection dynamics that curious set of eurasian tribesmen underwent; where civilization was always something ‘ready-at-hand’ by someone else, and you did not really need to exactly have ability or instinct or inclination to build or maintain it yourself, only ability to manipulate the abstract levers of the social organism for advantage (and when things start going wrong, just pick up sticks and move on to another set of hosts).

Varna says:

Over twenty years ago I read some sort of Kissinger biography. He recounts how Nixon tries to get Mao to start an anti-Soviet front right now, and Mao was like, “what’s the rush, we can wait a thousand years.”

While obvious negotiation hyperbole, there is something in that.

Red says:

Off topic, but apparently Brazil legalized attacking motorcyclist robbers:

https://twitter.com/bradleymain17/status/1554463058424209408

Kunning Druegger says:

So, some of the comments call into question the veracity of the claim about an act of government, but it is actually more heartening to know that this is propaganda and not some act of bureaucratic correction. The comments are overwhelmingly positive, and one even asserts that Bolsanaro’s son shared a video of a thug getting got with futbol announcer voices dubbed over the action. It is a good thing when people cheer the obliteration of criminals and scum.

Jehu says:

Back in the day, Paul described the magistrate as someone who did not bear the sword in vain, but rather established justice and punished evildoers.

Hard to say that now (from Romans) with a straight face. Law enforcement mostly exists now as a means to prevent decent people from taking out the trash. Even Hollywood recognizes this implicitly—look at how many shows where decent people taking out the trash take pains to make their actions look like rival organized crime concerns. They know that law enforcement will spare no effort to hunt down ‘vigilantes’ whereas they won’t spend much time investigating NHI (no humans involved) crimes. That’s the essence of anarcho-tyranny.

Good to see that Brazil wants to get out of the anarcho-tyranny business. Wish we could too.

Cloudswrest says:

Brazil, video, motorcycle hijacker shot dead.

https://youtu.be/Wq7sqgqQc3g

not a reactionary says:

There’s a channel on Youtube called Active Self Protection, I’ve mentioned it here before, which has quite a few videos of Brazilian motorcycle bandits being killed. The host is a bit of a goober. Plenty of videos of perps dying, and comments celebrating this, which is good to see. here’s one : https://youtu.be/3sfeCbfItbk?t=34

Houston and Sao Paulo are common places to see represented here.

Cloudswrest says:
Globalist Power Terminated II says:

MASS GRAVES MASS GRAVES NOW.

(This is an entirely legal joakpost, gnon presrev me.)

notglowing says:

I agree that most of the truly ground breaking foundational technologies were invented between 1867 and 1914, and that the 20th mostly refined and made them cheaper, available to everyone.

The great 20th century inventions are rockets/jet engines, nuclear fission and solid state semiconductors/computers.

Most of the remarkably fast technological innovation from 1970 onwards came from the latter, whereas most other technologies stagnated, nuclear fission was never exploited to its full extent.

I agree with all of this. But I think that computers are not given enough credit in these kinds of discussions. The reason why we have a false perception of fast advancement is due to their impact on all aspects of our lives.

Manipulating information IS important, and while it doesn’t directly give us a new source of energy, it can lead us to it.

Manufacturing and research is greatly aided by computers, and if we really make the kind of nano technology breakthrough the article talks about it will not happen without digital devices. The problem is not that computers aren’t among the greatest advances ever, they are, it’s that we haven’t had many other discoveries to match.
We don’t need to diminish one to show the absence of the other. Zero is zero.

The other question is whether societal changes, which can be driven by information technology, could bring back technological advancements.

It is Jim’s opinion that they will.
I think that it’s not so obvious. This is what I wanted to get at. Of course there are ways in which leftism is holding technology back, and even leading to its decline. But given what has been shown in this article, we can’t really know if even the most favourable political environment would bring us back to an era of fast and meaningful progress.

Nuclear and other power sources could make energy much cheaper. We could go back to the peak we had in the last century, make everything more efficient and cheaper thanks to less artificial burdens and cheap power. But that’s as far as I can see.

There’s no way for us to know if something like 1867 to 1914 can be repeated. Even with all of the societal issues we have how do we know we haven’t hit some wall that we cannot cross?

How is space travel realistically going to become cheap and safe?

jim says:

> How is space travel realistically going to become cheap and safe?

I have studied up Musk’s plan for making it cheap and safe.

Entirely workable and practical and there are a whole lot of reasonably foreseeable technologies that could applied to make it a lot cheaper and a lot safer.

You should use Musk type rockets for lifting stuff into low earth orbit and low mars orbit, but for interplanetary travel between earth and other planets, between low earth orbit and low mars orbit, one hundred kilowatt external discharge Hall thruster using bismuth as reaction mass.

The way it would work is that you launch to low earth orbit on Musk’s lox methane rockets. Now you are out of fuel, except you have a supply of bismuth for the ferry. The ferry picks you up and flies you to low mars orbit, and then, in low mars orbit, a tanker comes up from marz and refills you with lox and methane so that you can make a landing. Also refills the interplanetary ferry, assuming we can find bismuth on mars.

Mister Grumpus says:

But the bismouth-farting long-haul electric big rigs need to aero-capture at the Mars end, implying heat shielding, which looks pretty hard when you have solar panels big as parking lots. What’s the answer to that?

Cloudswrest says:

No they don’t. They enter Mars orbit the same way the left Earth orbit, but in reverse, retro’ing with the thrusters. Aerobraking is a cheap/free way for small spacecraft to enter orbit of planets with an atmosphere, but not the only way.

jim says:

Drop off the part that enters the atmosphere, and the parking lot sized solar panel returns to earth with a return load.

Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

He, or more precisely Vaclav Smil, whom he channels, notes correctly that one way or another, the world of the future never comes without the energy of the future, which is Our Friend, The Atom.

But there are factors three by which avatars of divine powers are instantiated on this plane, which are Matter, Energy, and Genius.

The kamikaze plane did more damage to FDR’s navy than any other weapon Imperial Japan deployed throughout the whole of the war. The pilot provided Genius by which Energy was directed to targets through Matter. In latter days, there are increasingly means of imputing genii into all sorts of things besides, beyond, and before manned operation, whose utility has only begun to be exploited systematically. Late 20th century and early 21st century weaponry largely consists of highly advanced forms of WW2 weaponry; only now with Russia in the Ukraine are we starting to see real reconnaissance-strike complexes come into play.

The development of information technology profoundly transformed social organisms. The rise of the Fukuyamian ‘end of history’ liberal order coincided with the proliferation of broadcast media; and it’s progressive crackup has coincided with the proliferation of internets (which is not a big truck, but a series of tubes); and i would not say these timelines are complete coincidences.

The pertinent question then is are there specifically IT related developments – whether existent or merely conceivable – that will afford the possibility of forms of social organism that are capable of resisting and overcoming extant forms of social entropification, in ways that have not existed before, and thus thereby be an influential factor on the getting of back on track to developing the Techne of the once and future Future.

Cloudswrest says:

While Moore’s law, employing the current semiconductor substrate paradigm, appears to be petering out, I imagine there are decades of diminishing improvements ahead in terms of efficiency tweaks and algorithmic architecture improvements, but nothing spectacular. Perhaps it will jump substrates into 3-D molecular nanotechnology, but I’m not holding my breath.

Biotech would seem to be a wide open virgin country waiting to be explored and colonized, but progress seems to be suspiciously slow. I was just reading that many of the papers in the field are turning out to be complete bullshit. Most of the people in the field are practicing “scientism”, as a career, for a buck, rather than enthusiasts practicing “scientody”, as Vox Day calls it. I was just reading that millions, or even billions, of dollars has gone down the rat hole on Alzheimer’s research that was based on bogus and fraudulent data. The whole nuclear somatic theory of cancer appears to be bullshit, with billions of dollars going down this rat hole. But anybody not “playing” with the consensus *losing* paradigms does not get funding. DNA/genetic technology appears to be an exception. The first genome sequencing took decades and billions of dollars. Now it’s commonly available to individuals (although in the early days the FDA came down hard on 23andMe, even though they were providing digitally accurate data). And it has revolutionized crime solving and paternity determination (France banned private paternity testing). And there’s a lot of lucrative, common man, interest in the subject.

As Pseudo-Chrysostom alluded to earlier, what would gather a lot of paying public enthusiasm would be drugs and biotechnologies that would provide personal enhancement above “normal”. But this appears to be verboten. There is almost insane opposition to it by public “ethicists” and the MSM. So there is no legal market for it. Just look at what happened to that Chinese researcher who successfully germ line enhance two children to be HIV immune.

Frank Matters says:

In your list for 20th century, you have forgotten genomics as a field and practice. Just as nuclear energy remains unexploited but full of boundless potential, so too does the manipulation of gene sequences.

fable says:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_European_marriage_pattern

Don’t you think this is a justification for women’s marital choice (albeit limited by a ban on extramarital sex) worth discussing?

If this is not true, what is the real reason for the lower intelligence and conscientiousness of Eastern Europeans (including those in countries where there was no mass murder of the cognitive elite by the Communists) compared to Western Europeans?

S says:

Isn’t west european intelligence advantage just German intelligence advantage with Northern Italy, France and England colonized to some degree by German invaders during the fall of Rome?

Kunning Druegger says:

The Hajnal Line has always perplexed me, but I just chalked it up to IQ deficiency on my part.

I read somewhere that female IQ can actually overtake male IQ in regions under extreme duress from natural cataclysm or perpetual warfare. I believe the study was about females in Somalia, but I don’t recall for sure and wouldn’t even know where to begin looking for it.

S says:

That sounds like a PC way of saying that women do the work in Africa and so are selected for IQ to provide for their children.

Aidan says:

Surprise, Wikipedia is lying to you

Kunning Drueger says:

Here’s the random news round up that has no coherent structure or timing:

“On July 15, 2022, Deputy Secretary of Defense Kathleen Hicks, in coordination with the Director of National Intelligence (DNI), amended her original direction to the Under Secretary of Defense for Intelligence & Security by renaming and expanding the scope of the Airborne Object Identification and Management Group (AOIMSG) to the All-domain Anomaly Resolution Office (AARO), due to the enactment of the National Defense Authorization Act for fiscal 2022, which included a provision to establish an office, in coordination with DNI, with responsibilities that were broader than those originally assigned to the AOIMSG. Today, USD(I&S) Hon. Ronald S. Moultrie informed the department of the establishment of AARO within the Office of the Under Secretary of Defense for Intelligence and Security, and named Dr. Sean M. Kirkpatrick, most recently the chief scientist at the Defense Intelligence Agency’s Missile and Space Intelligence Center, as the director of AARO. The mission of the AARO will be to synchronize efforts across the Department of Defense, and with other U.S. federal departments and agencies, to detect, identify and attribute objects of interest in, on or near military installations, operating areas, training areas, special use airspace and other areas of interest, and, as necessary, to mitigate any associated threats to safety of operations and national security. This includes anomalous, unidentified space, airborne, submerged and transmedium objects.”

https://www.globalsecurity.org/military/library/news/2022/07/mil-220720-dod01.htm

“The erosion of women’s rights has been one of the most notable aspects of the de facto administration to date. Since 15 August, women and girls have progressively had their rights to fully participate in education, the workplace and other aspects of public and daily life restricted and in many cases completely taken away. The decision not to allow girls to return to secondary school means that a generation of girls will not complete their full 12 years of basic education. At the same time, access to justice for victims of gender-based violence has been limited by the dissolution of dedicated reporting pathways, justice mechanisms and shelters. ‘The education and participation of women and girls in public life is fundamental to any modern society. The relegation of women and girls to the home denies Afghanistan the benefit of the significant contributions they have to offer. Education for all is not only a basic human right, it is the key to progress and development of a nation,’ said the UN envoy.”

https://www.globalsecurity.org/military/library/news/2022/07/mil-220720-unama01.htm

“Russian President Vladimir Putin appears to have succumbed to his own mythmaking and hyperbole, unable to let go of his desire to conquer Ukraine, no matter what the costs, according to a public assessment by America’s top spymaster. CIA Director William Burns, the last U.S. official to meet with Putin before he ordered Russian forces into Ukraine in February, warned late Wednesday that the Russian leader truly believes he must conquer Ukraine to fulfill his destiny.

https://www.globalsecurity.org/intell/library/news/2022/intell-220721-voa01.htm

“Today, Lieutenant-General Al Meinzinger, Commander of the Royal Canadian Air Force (RCAF), and Brigadier-General Mike Adamson, Commander of 3 Canadian Space Division, participated in a ceremony that marked the establishment of the RCAF’s newest Division – 3 Canadian Space Division, at National Defence Headquarters Carling in Ottawa, Ontario. 3 Canadian Space Division is an evolution from the RCAF’s Director General Space organization. As the responsibility for space operations has steadily grown over the last decade, the space-focussed team within the RCAF has been re-organized to meet this expanded scope. Building on the space initiatives outlined in Canada’s defence policy, Strong, Secure, Engaged, the establishment of 3 Canadian Space Division recognizes the critical importance of space in all Canadian Armed Forces (CAF) operations and day-to-day activities, and is a step forward in protecting Canadian interests in space. This newest RCAF Division will streamline, focus, and improve how space-based capabilities support critical CAF requirements such as communications, command and control, navigation, weather and situational awareness.”

https://www.globalsecurity.org/space/library/news/2022/space-220722-canada01.htm

“Russia’s Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov is visiting Egypt, Ethiopia, Uganda and the Republic of Congo this week, trying to counteract Western blame of Russia for a growing global food crisis. Experts say Russia will push its own narrative as to why it’s attacking Ukraine and use the visit to show it has friends. Lavrov was in the Republic of Congo Monday, the second day of his tour, to meet with the leadership of the central African nation. Steven Gruzd is the head of the Russia-Africa Program at the South African Institute of International Affairs, said Russia will play the victim card when meeting with African leaders.
‘It’s a propaganda war as much as it’s a shooting war and we have seen from the Ukrainian side how successfully President Zelensky has used social media,’ Gruzd said. ‘He gives daily messages, he talks to parliaments and to [the U.S.] Congress and to groups around the world. Virtually, he is seen being on the frontline and Russia is mounting a counter-offensive. I think this is all part of that same trend.’ Gruzd said it’s interesting that it is an in-person visit rather than online communication. ‘I think it’s deliberately calculated to show that Russia is not isolated, that Russia still has friends in the world, that Russia still cares about Africa,’ Gruzd said.”

https://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/library/news/russia/2022/07/russia-220725-voa02.htm

“Russia said Tuesday it will pull out of the International Space Station after 2024 to build its own orbiting outpost. The country’s space chief made the announcement during a meeting with President Vladmir Putin. […] NASA and the other partners involved in the International Space Station hope to continue their partnership through 2030, but Russia has been unwilling to commit to anything past 2024.”

https://www.globalsecurity.org/space/library/news/2022/space-220726-voa01.htm

“For 20 years, the United States and its Western allies played the major role in shaping Afghanistan’s future. But with the Taliban takeover nearly one year ago, regional powers, like Uzbekistan, are increasingly driving international engagement while Washington and the West hold out for Taliban concessions. In Tashkent this week, Uzbekistan convened an international conference on Afghanistan. More than 100 delegations from nearly 30 countries attended the event, mingling with the Taliban. Many of the governments, especially those from Central Asia, were clearly pushing toward an eventual normalization of relations with the new powers in Kabul. […] At perhaps the largest multilateral event with Taliban participation since the group seized power last August, officials from Kabul seemed emboldened and assertive. Central Asian diplomats told VOA that the Taliban came well prepared and confident, something reporters covering the event noticed as well. Acting Foreign Minister Amir Khan Muttaqi told the conference that Taliban-led Afghanistan is open for business.”

https://www.globalsecurity.org/military/library/news/2022/07/mil-220727-voa01.htm

“The U.S. Department of State’s Rewards for Justice (RFJ) program, administered by the Diplomatic Security Service, is offering a reward of up to $10 million for information on foreign interference in U.S. elections. The reward offer seeks information leading to the identification or location of any foreign person, including a foreign entity, who knowingly engaged or is engaging in interference in U.S. elections, as well as information leading to the prevention, frustration, or favorable resolution of an act of foreign election interference. This announcement from RFJ is part of United States Government’s wider efforts to ensure the security and integrity of our elections and protect against foreign interference in our elections.”

https://www.globalsecurity.org/security/library/news/2022/07/sec-220728-state01.htm

“An indictment was unsealed today in Tampa, Florida, charging a Russian national, working on behalf of the Russian government and in conjunction with the Russian Federal Security Service (FSB), with allegedly orchestrating a years-long foreign malign influence campaign that used various U.S. political groups to sow discord, spread pro-Russian propaganda, and interfere in elections within the United States. As alleged in the indictment, from at least December 2014 until March 2022, Aleksandr Viktorovich Ionov, a resident of Moscow, together with at least three Russian officials, engaged in a years-long foreign malign influence campaign targeting the United States. Ionov is the founder and president of the Anti-Globalization Movement of Russia (AGMR), an organization headquartered in Moscow and funded by the Russian government. Ionov utilized AGMR to carry out Russia’s influence campaign.”

https://www.globalsecurity.org/intell/library/news/2022/intell-220729-doj01.htm

“Post-Soviet Russia’s first naval doctrine was established in 2001 by presidential decree, with a major update approved in 2015 amid rising tensions with NATO, the Ukraine crisis, and Moscow’s growing strategic partnership with China. The new doctrine supersedes the 2015 document and adds a number of important new provisions. […] ‘We have transparently marked the borders and zones of Russia’s national interests – including economic, vital and strategic ones,’ Putin said during the signing ceremony, which took place at the Peter and Paul Fortress in St. Petersburg. ‘First and foremost, these are our Arctic waters, the Black, Okhotsk, Bering and Baltic Seas, as well as the Kuril Straits. We will ensure their protection firmly and by all means,’ Putin said. The Navy, he stressed, is tasked with responding ‘with lightning speed to anyone who decides to encroach on our sovereignty and freedom.'”

https://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/library/news/russia/2022/07/russia-220731-sputnik02.htm

“Indonesia and the United States, with additional participation from Australia, Japan and Singapore, kicked off a joint military exercise on Monday in a show of defense partnership amid rising tensions in the Indo-Pacific region. […] Super Garuda Shield 2022 takes place from Aug. 1 to 14, with drills involving the armies, navies and air forces. Canada, France, India, Malaysia, South Korea, Papua New Guinea, East Timor, and Britain will participate as observer nations.”

https://www.globalsecurity.org/military/library/news/2022/08/mil-220801-rfa01.htm

Zeihan’s propaganda output appears to be moving in lockstep with the Biden Regime, acting as if the Zawahiri assassination is relevant in any way to Global Politics and IR, as well as pretending Speaker Witch-Wino is making some kind of grand strategic move of brilliance by visiting Taipei. As usual, his prediction is correct (no shoot down), while his theories are stupid.

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Anonymous Fake says:

[deleted for taking an election result at face value.]

Anonymous Fake says:

[deleted] 18 percentage points is an absolutely unbelievable margin [deleted]

jim says:

About as believable as the election results in North Korea.

Anonymous Fake says:

[*deleted*]

jim says:

it is obviously improbable that one and a half times as many people voted on abortion as voted in the 2020 election. Somebody hastily printed up a ginormous pile of ballots.

Your argument is because it looks so much like open blatant fraud, it has to be genuine, because they would never commit such blatant and open fraud.

The Cominator says:

Which election is being discussed here.

Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

I presume the Kansas abortion thing.

‘Mail-in voting’ is the new normal. Why would the inner party not exploit it to the hilt in anything and everything? The whitewash of ‘popular democracy’ can be used to rubberstamp anything, a perfect tool for hostile elite factions laundering responsibility.

jim says:

Kansas abortion vote.

Anon says:

While I agree that mail-in voting is fraud the official results aren’t that 1.5 times the people voted for abortion as the amount of voters in the 2020 election. The results claim that 1.34 Million voted in Kansas voted in the 2020 election while only 909,000 voted in the Kansas Abortion vote.

Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

>Alex Jones’ lawyer (((mistakenly))) sends database of Jones’ text messages to prosecution lawyers in Sandy Hook trial

Sasuga.

Varna says:

The socially approved response to this is likely along the lines of “hur hur he’s such a filthy peasant even his lawyer is a shmuck”, as opposed to “welp, no more pretense”, and “the caste battle lines are also being drawn”.

One wonders how long until dissidents begin suffering endless chains of mishaps when undergoing medical intervention. Or rather has it already begun. After all, some good doctors and nurses and bureaucrats could be quite receptive to “it is my duty to humanity to stop hitler”.

Wulfgar Thundercock III says:

Better make sure if you need legal representation that you know where your lawyer’s kids or grandkids go to school. And make sure he knows you know. Either that or assassinate opposing council and the judge. Make yourself a hard target.

Kunning Druegger says:

I wonder if the long game plan was to slowly eliminate peaceful options while drawing the cultural noose ever tighter and reducing headcount through sodomite/hedonic attrition, with the nub of an armed and armored minority that only need to lash out once before it could be publicly acceptable to just hunt them down.

As is, the carousel is spinning to wildly and discordantly for uniform action. That being said, they could salvage their position with a few strategic “losses” that might put the waking dragon back to sleep.

Globalist Power Terminated II says:

It’s clear that something is on the horizon, exactly what is unclear.

Anon says:

Despite what jim think of alex jones as fed/compromised
Alex jones was( after anglin ) the canary in the coal mine, what happen to him trickle down to everyone starting with cancelation and deplatforming.
So if/when he jailed and Epsteined you know it is on.

alf says:

Not sure if Sandy Hook has been discussed round here. Any hot takes? From a distance it seems real enough.

Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

Real people really killed by fake and gay psyops; like practically every ‘mass casualty event’ glowwies conjure up whenever they need a new news cycle.

alf says:

glowwies conjure up whenever they need a new news cycle.

How omnipotent do you estimate glowies are with regard to school shootings? Say we have three categories —

1. shooter was actively encouraged, possibly armed by feds
2. feds were aware of shooter’s plans, did not stop him, possibly gave small nudge
3. shooter acted out of own volition, no state involvement

What percentage of shootings fall in each of the categories? I’d guess Lanza would be a type 2?

Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

3. happens all the time and is called Chigago; doesn’t get reported in the news.

2. makes up a broad possibility space where the majority of megaphoned events happen, often with stronger nudging involved; as well, they often go so far in arranging pageantry to dress up the optics of the event that they practically undermine themselves in the same stroke – sandy hook is an example of this. Lying even when half-truths would serve their aim better. Many such cases.

It can be hard to say how many are explicitly like 1., but festivities like the Vegas shooter are definitely closer to that end of the spectrum.

alf says:

Ok thanks. I’m trying to figure out to what extent we should give glowies the credit of evil masterminding the school shootings. A fair bit of credit it seems. Probably makes more sense if you view ‘degunning the populace’ as one of their core tasks.

as well, they often go so far in arranging pageantry to dress up the optics of the event that they practically undermine themselves in the same stroke – sandy hook is an example of this

What do you mean with this?

Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

This was a long time ago, but at the time /pol/ was full of clips and screenshots of all the weird shit news programs were pulling up in covering the events. Reality TV theater to provide ‘illustration’ of events, ‘inspired by a true story’; only they leave the first part out and just present it as is. Real dead people, and also real crisis actors.

alf says:

I see. ‘And here’s a re-enactment of the death of little Timmy, as his mother holds his dying body in her arms.’

Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

It’s so common to the point i surmise it’s almost certainly done on purpose. If there are real catastrophes you can engineer why include fakery in the narratives too? Or if you can just use fakery, why risk operations involving real victims?

Most people are not going to have the subtlety to disentangle all the contradictory threads of such furballs, so by including deers amongst the horses, you create an inflection point; pushing them down the first step of denying some things that are true, and accepting some things that are false.

Pseudo-Chysostom says:

Id est, the aim being that one way or another, they end up compromised, and perhaps just give up trying to bother with making sense of the business altogether; a form of intellectual learned helplessness; which of course in the end leaves the loudest megaphone as the default.

alf says:

Assuming good faith on the side of Jones, no doubt that’s how they baited him.

Kunning Druegger says:

The deeper social programing of America in its endless “youth” stages must be considered as well. This draws the timeline out impossibly far for a constrained causal chain of events, but it is no less relevant. “Crazies” and actual lone wolves, and I am not including groomed targets here, always have some collection of fictions or fictionalized narratives they cite or are deeply connected to. Sometimes they lay this connection out in a manifesto, and other times it can be gleaned from a study of their interests and passions. Here’s a weird artifact to peruse:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Cormier

Meet Robert Cormier, a celebrated journalist from a small town in New England. Notice how this man managed to avoid service in the War, being quite busy with gaining high praise and recognition for his writing and poetry. But this of course makes sense, a nation shouldn’t squander its greatest minds on trenches and beachheads. Cormier is a celebrated thought leader and mind shaper, given his amazing ability to provide “young adults with a window through which they can view the world, and which will help them to grow and understand themselves and their role in society.” Of note is his story After the First Death, a story one might be inclined to find and read. He has other celebrated works as well that are excellent examples of how something traditional, local, and friendly can be an intellectual introduction to the seeds of self-hatred and alienation so common now in the boomers that read his “offerings.” Cormier isn’t alone; New England was chock full of writers and thinkers ready to convince successive generations that they were lost as well as provide convenient paths to find out who was to blame for their discomfiture. Another relevant example is John Irving, but more in line with hedonic madness than nihilistic ideation.

Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

The ‘young adult fiction’ that is officially celebrated and promoted to unwitting parents and pushed on unsuspecting boys in the child prison systems is packed front to back with morbidity, ennui, and de-moralization.

You can’t shake a stick without hitting a ‘best seller’ whose plot essentially boils down to everything the protagonist knows and loves dying at the end. It’s deeply sick, and of course, is an expression of the deeply sick compulsively seeking to spread their sickness to all else.

Kunning Druegger says:

This is something I keep coming back to. It is self-serving in the extreme for both wanna-be and actual writers to make their art The Art, but as an abject failure I feel no reluctance in saying it: the long game is won by the artists that capture the Thisness and Thatness of narratives of the self. There is much in the way of injected and artificial recognition that propels these hackfrauds to the top, but these poisoned seeds need tainted ground in which to grow. YA is the target market for the cultural war, and only secondary as one of capitalization. I’d even go as far as saying that without the Harry Potter model, the Cathedral; would still champion YA as some kind of high aspiration for the strategic value. Here are the people shaping the minds of the next generation:

https://jenniferlarmentrout.com/apollycon/

Gaze upon your foe in horror and disgust.

Yarvin may not be Moldbug, but he was unassailably correct in his statement that where goes art, so goes society. So, if a full, systemic collapse is imminent, we obviously dispense with the pen and take up the sword. If not, the most effective strategy we could possibly adopt is recapture of the culture through fiction in all its forms. We often elect to write of the real, the happening, and the predicted, but I am starting to feel that ZeroHP, in the long run, will do far more heavy lifting in the culture war than the actual reactionary luminaries.

We need more Perenialist Fiction.

Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

The modern reader is in places like AO3, FF.NET, SpaceBattles, Novel Updates, Anonkun, RoyalRoad, et cetera et cetera, reading fan fiction, web novels, and fan fiction of web novels. One of the most influential stories on post 9/11 generations within the last decade was a ‘deconstruction’ of the superhero genera written by some jew with a female protagonist, all posted and distributed online.

If you wish to heat irons, that is where the coals are.

Kunning Druegger says:

I’ve been looking at the problem for a while, and I have some theories and a game plan I am slowly putting into motion. i appreciate the leads and will check those places out, but my approach is going to be highly unorthodox.

Anonymous says:

One of the most influential stories on post 9/11 generations within the last decade was a ‘deconstruction’ of the superhero genera written by some jew with a female protagonist, all posted and distributed online.

You reckon Worm’s that influential? Pick the name of some popular manga out of a hat and it has a bigger following than all web serials put together.

Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

Not necessarily in a broad sense, but influential amongst sets that are already reading in the first place. Which, we must say, is not exactly that big of a subset to begin with.

Kunning Druegger says:

There is also something I call the Terry Gilliam effect.

I personally love Gilliam’s work, but I am a weirdo. He, along with Tony Scott, is the most widely appreciated “bad” director. His movies almost always flop, and even the successful ones are just plain strange. But it is hard to find a successful director that doesn’t appreciate Gilliam as an auteur. So while the public that must sit through his offerings are unappreciative of his work, they seem to have a disproportionate impact on future movies

Tony Scott is a bit different. His brother is by far one of the most successful living directors. Ridley has to work really hard to make a bad movie (oh, but he’s trying!), and his pre-woke catalog is just hit after hit. But Tony was always the better brother in terms of artistic vision. Ridley delivers for the status quo, and Tony challenged it. They were both wildly successful on a holistic level, but individually, I bet he loathed his early success. With all box office players, one must wonder about what kind of twisted shit is hidden in the closet. Excising that possibility for personal, emotional reasons, I choose to believe he was just tired of it all. Comparing Ridley and Tony, I think Tony is the visionary, but honestly they both knew how to make good movies.

Completely digressed from my point: there are movies that normies appreciate, and movies that filmfags apprceiate. Sometimes they overlap, often times they don’t. So it is not black and white as to which target will give you the most impact. I lean towards influencing the influencers, but being popular and successful is also a route to changing the culture.

Neurotoxin says:

“So while the public that must sit through his offerings are unappreciative of his work, they seem to have a disproportionate impact on future movies… I lean towards influencing the influencers”

Reminds me of what someone said about Velvet Underground’s first album, Velvet Underground & Nico: “The first run of it only sold 30,000 copies, but every person who bought one of those 30,000 copies started a band.”

John Bergson says:

https://tinyurl.com/nh5djf5c

“In fact, according to recent monthly releases from the Customs General Administration of China, which maintains detailed Chinese trade data with detailed breakdowns of exports to individual trade partners, Chinese exports to Russia plummeted by 50% from the start of the year to April, falling from over $8 billion monthly at the end of 2021 to under $4 billion in April. This aligns with our anecdotal observations of several Chinese banks withdrawing all credit and financing from Russia following the start of the invasion, including ICBC, the New Development Bank, and the Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank, in addition to energy giants such as Sinochem suspending all Russian investments and joint ventures.

“The explanation for China’s reticence, once again, lies in the asymmetric nature of Russia’s relationships with its trading partners. Even on imports, it is clear that Russia needs its trade partners far more than its trade partners need Russia – and the power dynamic is not even close to being balanced.

“This imbalance is put into stark relief when the proportion of imports Russia draws from China is compared to the proportion of exports China sends to Russia. Russia is not even in the top ten destinations for Chinese exports; in 2021 alone, China exported over $500 billion in goods and services to its largest trade partner, the United States, representing ten times the amount of goods it sent to Russia ($72 billion). On the other hand, China represents Russia’s largest source of imports by far; in fact, the $72 billion in imports Russia draws from China is nearly three times the amount of imports Russia draws from its second largest partner, Germany ($27 billion), and five times the amount of imports Russia draws from its third largest partner, the United States.”

If China behaves that way toward Russia, China will not by any stretch of the imagination be in a hurry to put itself in the same situation.

China is posturing to see what it can get away with.

Anybody red-pill aware should see through this immediately. Betas threaten. Alphas do.

Betas worry about what is said, and especially, with what others are saying that they don’t like. Alphas concern themselves with what is done, and what they can do about it.

The USA makes a point of not promising to defend Taiwan. The US also made a point of not committing to anything with regards to Ukraine. When push comes to shove, the US simply acts, and anybody who was paying attention had a pretty good idea of what the action would be. The Russians were not paying attention. The Chinese may be.

jim says:

> it is clear that Russia needs its trade partners far more than its trade partners need Russia – and the power dynamic is not even close to being balanced.

Pull the other one, it has bells on.

In your reality, the sanctions are highly effective, popular, and do not cost Russia’s partners much at all.

alf says:

I’ve heard cathedralites unironically argue that not buying Russian gas is the most powerful sanction we have against Russia. The delusions grow daily…

Pax Imperialis says:

Some thoughts on Taiwan but first some discussion on 3 Chinese books in America/the West. It will loosely tie in I promise!

I have this growing and unsettling feeling of existential horror and dread as the Dark Forest theory from the Remembrance of Earth’s Past trilogy by Liu Cixin seeps into Western consciousness.

The premise is that all cosmic civilizations are inherently existential threats to each other (relativistic kill vehicles go boom), they can’t communicate (chain of suspicion), and they they are invested in their continued survival (for obvious reasons).

The theory goes like this:

“The universe is a dark forest. Every civilization is an armed hunter stalking through the trees like a ghost, gently pushing aside branches that block the path and trying to tread without sound. Even breathing is done with care. The hunter has to be careful, because everywhere in the forest are stealthy hunters like him. If he finds other life — another hunter, an angel or a demon, a delicate infant or a tottering old man, a fairy or a demigod — there’s only one thing he can do: open fire and eliminate them. In this forest, hell is other people. An eternal threat that any life that exposes its own existence will be swiftly wiped out. This is the picture of cosmic civilization. It’s the explanation for the Fermi Paradox.”

None of this is remarkable. It’s so intuitive you don’t even need to use formalized game theory to realize the implications. It’s also an idea that has floated around obscure western science fiction and some scientists for decades but never really reached a large audience. In that regard Cixin succeeded where past authors and scientists failed. He got the idea out there enough that normal people were hearing about it. Poor Netflix adaptation incoming.

Comments like these are common both online and irl (also common enough in DoD circles to my complete dismay):

“I think we assume that if aliens are so advanced they can come to Earth and visit us than they’ve shaken off any of the self-interest imbued in them by evolution.” They’re so advanced they must be dysgenic!? Which is uncomfortably close enough to the dysgenic reality we face today that I can’t immediately out right say it’s wrong.

“I think in the contrary, the fact that a race has mastered inter galactic travel proves that they are a peaceful race.” A race that has mastered sea/ocean travel proves that they are a peaceful race!? Really worked out well for anyone who came in contact with the British, Spanish, Japanese, etc.

“The Dark Forest Theory suggests that all the hunters in the forest should assume a degree of violence in each other. But that’s a big assumption” It’s a big assumption that hunters are capable of violence!?

Forget aliens, these people are going to get us all killed in a world where MAD exists. They are incapable of understanding Asians, Eastern Europeans, and anyone else not living within the Whig delusion. Basic game theory flies over their heads. Perhaps you too will have a growing sense of existential horror as you realize the typical American response to Chinese thinking is… Star Trek is real…

Taiwan… some said China has lost face or some variation of face saving competition is going on, others said that China would do nothing and will continue to do nothing. This is the same magnitude of incomprehension as the comments about Dark Forest.

Let’s consider the history of the 1995–1996 Taiwan Strait Crisis in which Chinese military exercises amounted to shooting a couple of missiles into China’s own coastal waters. Two American aircraft carrier battle groups near the coasts of China was a fairly convincing argument for Chinese Central Government that every single Chinese ship would get sunk in hours. The result was that they spent the next 25 years highly focused on building A2/AD because there is no point in building amphibious assault capability if you can’t even get it to the island. Air and sea must be won before land. Today every inch of Taiwanese territory is well within Chinese missile range for any target be it air, sea, or land. China also massively expanded and modernized their air force in that period with a completely domestic arms industry.

Let’s consider today’s situation. China is currently conducting 6 military exercises inside or in close proximity to Taiwan’s coastal waters. This involves blatant airspace incursions forcing Taiwanese response and by shear frequency grounding Taiwan’s planes due to maintenance capacity not keeping up with sorties. Meanwhile the only American aircraft carrier battle group in the general area seems content with keeping distance and “conducting scheduled operations in the Philippine Sea” which sounds like DoD talk for “we want to stay the fuck away and out of range.” Seems like all that A2/AD investment paid off. One must wonder who exactly has lost face in this situation.

China does not currently have the means for an invasion (not enough marines), but they are currently in the process of building* it. More importantly they may not even need it. These military exercises are a proxy for telling Taiwan that they can be blockaded with impunity. Taiwan has around 28 million people with a food sufficiency rate of 35%. None of those people can become refuges and simply walk away from a conflict like in Ukraine. All ports can be shut down by Chinese missiles. All Taiwanese oil is imported as crude and those refineries are large stationary targets. Most plane maintenance parts are also imported. 75 years of fortifications don’t mean much when you don’t have air superiority and can be bombed with impunity. Taiwan has no strategic depth in stark contrast to Great Britain during WW2. What China can do is use the threat of blockade and negotiate which is what they are doing right now. If that doesn’t work, it has the option to actually blockade and halt food imports and offer surrender terms every month as food runs out. Or maybe they decide to wait another decade to build up their marine force and do an invasion.

China’s options are increasingly while US options are decreasing. Chinese actions are getting bolder while American proclamations are absent of military presence. And precedent of Ukraine war is that US will not directly intervene with another nuclear power and unlike Ukraine, Taiwan has no sneaky land routes to transfer supplies and volunteers. This proclaiming that America has won or that there is no crisis or the crisis is already over because Pelosi landed on the island and left is as delusional as saying Star Trek is more real real than Dark Forest. The 4th Taiwan Strait Crisis has just started and this time it’s the Americans via Pelosi that kicked it off.

*https://www.usni.org/magazines/proceedings/2020/april/chinas-marine-corps-rise

Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

Many have asked: ‘what did the GAE, or factions within the GAE, hope to accomplish by this?’

Quoth the Joker: ‘Do I look like the kind of guy who has a plan?’

One of the most common modes of thought that can animate the doing of leftism, is an attraction to the feeling of Impact. Specifically, doing something someone doesn’t like, and getting away with it.

What we have been seeing in latter days is, in the generational replacements for the old builders of the 20th century order, this instinctual attraction for causing Impact becoming increasingly unmoored from mere instrumental concerns; practical reasoning disappears as time-horizons disappear; goals vis-a-vis things ‘out there’ in Being becoming increasingly marginal, while actions are increasingly weighed under the frame of solipsistic ‘goals’ of sensation itself; in essence, the devolution to schoolyardism. Pelosi felt like she could stick her finger in the eye of China and get away with it – so she did.

Neurotoxin says:

The leaders of the left are increasingly like the people who attacked Kyle Rittenhouse: even though they could see he was holding a firearm, they attacked him; they were so insane that they just assumed he would never use it, even in defending his life. The parts of their brains that assess risk are extremely dysfunctional.

The people who control the left are increasingly like that. Picking a completely unnecessary fight with Russia, pointlessly increasing tensions with China, now the Taiwan thing…

If you keep provoking Lady Luck, sooner or later she’s going to put her boot in your ass.

Current leftist leaders seem to have a genetic defect that prevents them from understanding this. Some people think the apparent craziness is all part of some Master Plan. The Rittenhouse incident convinces me that it all really is as insane as it looks on the surface. There’s nothing underneath it.

Plague Rat says:

This is dead wrong. Leftists pick fights not because they’re insane but because they’ve been successfully bullying non-leftists for the past three generations. American leftists pick fights expecting to succeed, and they almost always do, because American non-leftists are a collection of well-armed pussies.

Adam says:

Leftists have state power. They are not picking fights and winning, they already have power and are using it.

While some of the well armed men are no doubt pussies, many are not. They just don’t have power, or even a way to organize or communicate to take power.

If the fight was antifa vs. well armed pussies, obvious who wins. But that’s not the fight. It’s Harvard, state department, fbi, cia, dhs, state troopers and sheriffs department vs. well armed pussies.

Plague Rat says:

> Leftists have state power. They are not picking fights and winning, they already have power and are using it.

And how did leftists get that power?

> While some of the well armed men are no doubt pussies, many are not. They just don’t have power, or even a way to organize or communicate to take power.

“I don’t have any power, I only have an arsenal of weapons.”

My God, that’s pathetic. Stop making excuses.

jim says:

> And how did leftists get that power?

Putting you on moderation for blissfully ignoring reactionary history, as if everyone accepted whig history and no one doubted it.

Pass the shill test.

The fact that you ask the question implies you have not the slightest intention of listening to the answer, or even noticing that anyone answers it.

To ask the question is to imply that the official answer is obviously true, and no one doubts it is true, while in reality these days no one on the right, even the recucklican right, believes the official answer.

Plague Rat says:

[*total failure to even attempt to pass the shill test*]

Neurotoxin says:

Plague Rat: never mind the domestic situation in the US. Consider that the Cathedral is now picking fights with China and Russia simultaneously.

There is no way to read that as sane, or even within shouting distance of sane.

Plague Rat says:

It’s perfectly sane. Did you sleep through Covid? Leftists manufacture crises in order to grab more power. They’ve been doing it for over 60 years now. Anything China or Russia does to us will be used by leftists for the same purpose.

The Retard Right, meanwhile, is spending 90% of its time drafting new anti-abortion laws that don’t even have exceptions for 13-year-olds who’ve been raped by niggers.

Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

>muh rape

99% of abortions happen because the woman wants to keep her womb open for Mr. 1 in 30 while denying children to the Nice Guy she was fucking that moment who would really want them.

Sounding kinda like a plant my guy. ‘Rape incest medical emergency’ are salami slicers for getting the nose of the camel under the tent and once the cardinality is established ride it all the way to putting the whole camel under the tent and you out of the tent.

London Guy says:

“99% of abortions …”

Plague Rat didn’t say anything about “99% of abortions.”

Are you seriously telling us if your daughter was raped by a nigger, she should be forced to bear the bastard?

If so, you’re a fucking monster.

jim says:

Camel’s nose in the tent. If abortion is a woman’s right to choose, chances are she will choose to bear the product of rape by a nigger, and abort the seed of a good man who is looking for a wife and family. Nigger rape is a distraction, like the guy who bumps into you from the crowd from one side so that you will not notice his confederate lifting your wallet from the other side.

The question is not rape, nor nigger rape, since it is hard to know if a woman has been raped, and hardest of all for the woman herself to know. It is that female control of reproduction leads to collapse in cooperation between men and woman, and thus collapse of marriage and family, and thus to the failure of peoples, races, faiths, civilizations, and cultures to reproduce, and their inevitable disappearance from history.

Rape in the modern sense is not a meaningful category for deciding what is legal or illegal.

We need to restore the old definition of rape, which is dating a woman without the permission of her patriarch.

And if a woman has no patriarch, then we should apply the old Testament rules on the topic of abduction. The legal status of women not under male authority should be similar to the legal status of stray dogs.

Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

Your whore mother wouldn’t need to be forced to keep the bastard, because she would want to keep it, and try to go over the head of any man who wouldn’t.

Kunning Druegger says:

Lol, what a low energy shill. he thought he’d squeaked by talking some SciFi jargon, so he cuts hard left into “conservatives are retarded, attacking the sacred abortion rights.” They aren’t even trying anymore.

Neurotoxin says:

“It’s perfectly sane… Anything China or Russia does to us will be used by leftists…”

Translating:

“War with China or Russia, or both simultaneously, cannot possibly damage the Cathedral.”

Oh, OK.

Anonymous Fake says:

[*deleted for misrepresenting red tribe America*]

jim says:

It is not the pentagon that is looking for war with China.

Anonymous Fake says:

It is the true believing flag wavers, though, willing to fight any war for any reason they imagine to be “patriotic”. Most of them still think Russia is practicing godless communism and America fights for the protection of Christian civilization, still stuck in the Cold War. And the Chinese might as well be bugs.

Think Mike Pompeo minus 30 years and 100 pounds and there’s your red tribe grunt. Well he might be a bit brighter than Pompeo.

And this kind of person, a low information person, is a key component of modern drone based wars because not much of any other type is willing to sign up for it. It’s either the grunts or absolute true believers in the most fundamentalist religions.

The pentagon will fight any war it is told to fight when the only people willing to fight are the oblivious grunts.

jim says:

Allowing this tediously familiar shill script through so that it can be rebutted.

The actual right is Trump, MAGA, Christian Nationalism, and Gab.

Do they want war with Russia over Ukraine? Obviously not. It is you guys trying to sell us on it, and getting absolutely no traction. Your guys on gab trying sell it sound like the flat earthers, pushing a shill script that is completely dead in the water.

Do they want war with China over Hong Kong, Taiwan, and Yoghurts under Chinese rule? Obviously not. It is you guys trying to sell us on it, It is you guys trying to sell us on it, and again getting absolutely no traction.

Does the Pentagon want war over Ukraine, etc? Obviously not. It is the State Department pushing it, and the Pentagon crying “Stop!”

Back when the Soviet Unions was seeking to rule the world, the right was indeed the war party, and the left the unconditional surrender party. That ended when the Berlin wall fell, and ever since then the roles have been completely reversed.

Your script confidently proclaims a reality that abruptly reversed over three decades ago. You are the war party, and no one the reactionary right, the radical right, Christian right, moderate right, the cuckservative right, or even the Pentagon, is buying what you are selling, and we have not been buying it for thirty years.

Anonymous Fake says:

[*deleted for total loss of contact with actual post 1990 political right*]

jim says:

You have been selling this pile of dog turds to the right since 1990, and the right has not been buying it.

alf says:

, It is you guys trying to sell us on it, and again getting absolutely no traction.

As for instance in the recent shill push that the chinese are using tiktok to collect our data. The horror! I sure am glad our own governments would never do that to us.

A2 says:

“The horror!”

At least the Chinese don’t turn around and share their data with Israel.

Neurotoxin says:

I’m sure the Cathedral is doing its usual BS with polls, i.e. using polls designed to exaggerate the number of people who agree with the Cathedral. The left always does this; cf. the fraudulent polls during election years.

Kunning Druegger says:

This is interesting, particularly coupled with St. John’s post. I don’t mean to reinforce Recucklican memes, but I do honestly believe that the DNC has many leaders who are completely beholden to the CCP, and I believe Pelosi is one of them. China now has every excuse it needs to begin circumnavigational patrols and exercises, and when the GAE complains, they can just point to the Pelosi incident.

Space Cadet says:

The chinaman didn’t originate that idea. Charles Pellegrino did a very in-depth treatment of relativistic kinetic weapons in “The Killing Star” back in 1995. And Gene DeWeese put forth the same essential idea – including the communication problem, but with antimatter weapons instead of relativistic rocks – back in 1987 in a Star Trek novel of all things, “Chain of Attack”.

Meanwhile, the UFO videos declassified under Trump – and all the UFO observations that got dug up and discussed as a result of that, dating back to the 1950s – add up to a pretty conclusive argument that SOMETHING with technology completely out of scope of any human ability is keeping this planet under observation and has been for decades at least. Which, frankly, is kind of reassuring. It doesn’t take 50 years to grab some rocks from the Oort cloud, stick some antimatter engines on them, and watch stuff go boom. The Voyagers got out there in less time, after all. So whatever is watching us, we haven’t fucked up enough for it to want to kill us yet.

Space Cadet says:

Also, consider the following. You’re an alien observing this planet just entering the industrial/electronic/nuclear age. If you want to find out anything, you have to look down from on high; if you want detailed info you have to go down and poke around with emissaries of some sort. It’s kinda difficult and imprecise as a means of data gathering, especially with regards to understanding the society and culture and thinking of the primary species under observation.

Fast forward 50 years. Everything is wired. Everything is computerized. Wireless connections everywhere. Data beamed to satellites and back. All of it is being tapped and listened to by indigenous intelligence agencies. Isn’t it the easiest thing for Mr. Orbital Observer to do the same? Just tap into a datastream, listen a bit, spoof some data, create a few accounts here and there, log in like a totally normal user you guys, gather more data, interact with the funny little natives –

When you’re talking with that one guy on 4chan who’s making some really weird comments and questions, how do you know he’s not a space alien?

How do you know?

HOW DO YOU FUCKING KNOW?

jim says:

Flying saucers is how modern people conceptualize angels and demons.

It is pretty obvious that if literal demons are chatting on social media, as quite plausibly they are, they are using the old fashioned method of demonically possesses mortal agents. See for example some of those TED talks given by trannies.

i says:

UFO abductions are apparently demonic according to the Orthodox:

Given what I have said, we must come to understand that there is a decidedly anti-Christian tone in the eight stages that Dr. Mack identifies in the process of personal transformation in abduction victims. Seeing life in terms of cycles of birth and death, identifying with other beings and entities, the cessation of personhood, and looking to the “cosmos” for a “home”—these are all undefined, vague, and eclectic things that violate the precise, Christocentric teachings of Christianity and the life of discipline and obedience that spiritual transformation entails. Indeed, the Fathers of the Church warn us against these “false” teachings: reincarnation, delusion, and spiritual wanderings. The observations of one abductee interviewed by Mack, in particular, fully confirm the anti-Christian dimensions of the post-abduction philosophies and “spiritualities” of those who have come into contact with aliens. This man, called “Joe,” reported that after his initial impression that the aliens were “sinister” or “malicious” (p. 186), he eventually embraced his abductors as “his spiritual teachers, peers, and helpers” (p. 192). Rather than grow in an understanding of God and the traditional precepts that we associate with Christianity, after his abduction experiences, he came to think of himself as becoming “more human” (p. 190) and, in a dream, experienced the integration of his “male-female” self through the symbolic birth of a goddess, born in a way too obscene to be repeated. His personal testimony leaves little doubt that the post-abduction “transformation” of individuals who have contacted alien beings is at odds with Orthodox Christian notions of human enlightenment, transformation, and perfection in Christ, but is rooted, rather, as I have argued, in a human-oriented idea of personal growth not dissimilar to that envisioned by the New Age religions.

What, then, if they are not advanced beings from other planets, are these alien abductors? Ultimately, one cannot escape the conclusion that they are demons or phantoms created by demonic power. In the first place, they look like demons. They appear to be material creatures, and yet have a transparent character. According to the teachings of the Church, demons are spiritual beings; that is, they are fallen Angels. But because they are corrupt and degenerate, they thrive on the human passions—feed on them. This well explains the almost universal sexual exploitation of their captives by alien abductors. In the second place, in the course of their physical examination of abductees, the aliens inflict pain on their victims and frequently scar them. In spiritual literature, and especially in the lives of the Saints, we repeatedly read of physical attacks against Christian believers by demonic spirits. If these aliens are not demons, how is it that beings so advanced that they can achieve space travel cannot prevent pain and scarring during routine physical examinations? It is not pain which the aliens cannot control, but their demonic passion for inflicting the same on mankind. Moreover, at least initially, abductees experience terror and fright in the presence of their alien abductors; only later, after having been reluctantly won over by the aliens, do they feel secure in the presence of their abductors. This is a classical demonic machination. Demons inevitably strive, in a methodical way, to overcome the initial and natural repulsion that human beings feel in their presence, gaining the confidence of those whom they seek to mislead. Finally, the spiritual effects of abductees’ contacts with aliens, as we have pointed out, are anti-Christian. Abductees are drawn away from the universal teachings of Orthodox Christianity and towards the demonic delusion that underlies modern New Age philosophies. Human transformation ceases, for these victims of alien visitation, to be a God-oriented, Grace-mediated process, but becomes part of a personality-dissolving return to the “elemental” universals upon which the pagan notion of Paradise is predicated.

It is worthy of note that the late Father Seraphim Rose, in his book Orthodoxy and the Religion of the Future (Platina, CA: Saint Herman of Alaska Brotherhood, 1990; Revised Edition), has also examined the phenomenon of alien visitations to earth from an Orthodox standpoint. He devotes an entire chapter of this work, “‘Signs from Heaven:’ An Orthodox Christian Understanding of Unidentified Flying Objects (UFOs),” to the true nature and meaning of alien contacts with human beings. Though Father Seraphim, at a superficial level, approaches this matter in a way reminiscent of Protestant fundamentalistic thinking, and while his materials are dated and center only on more sensationalistic abduction reports—deficits compounded by the fact that some of the authorities whom he cites are clearly on the fringes of science—, his deeper analysis of the phenomenon is ingenious and supports much of what I have suggested about alien encounters with humans. He also observes that the aliens in contemporary abduction reports are similar in appearance to the demons which, for centuries, have been described in Orthodox literature (p. 134). In fact, he recounts two cases of demonic “kidnappings” in fifteenth- and nineteenth-century Russia that, in Father Seraphim’s words, are “quite close to UFO ‘abductions’” today (pp. 136-137). It is his conclusion that classical demonic possession, known to the Orthodox Church for centuries, accounts for the alien abductions that we see in modern times and that “…modern men, for all their proud ‘enlightenment’ and ‘wisdom,’ are becoming once more aware of such experiences—but no longer have the Christian framework with which to explain them” (p. 137). This conclusion perfectly reflects what I have said about alien abductions and how they should be understood and viewed by the Orthodox Christian.

http://orthodoxinfo.com/praxis/alien_abduct.aspx

jim says:

Orthodoxy has it right.

Space Aliens are how moderns conceptualize angels and demons, but their experiences do not make much sense as actual advanced aliens, but rather resemble the traditional accounts of demonic visitations and supernatural events.

i says:

The dissolution of the self in Oneness unity, Reincarnation, the abolition of the distinction between Male and Female.

Interesting how the demonic visitations replicate the various aspects of Hindu religion.

This allows us to identify the demonic influence upon Hinduism. The corrupting influences that warped the original Vedic Faith.

I suspect the original Vedic Religion would find its fulfillment best in the Divine Logos of Christ.

And the Theosis/Deification of Mankind which maintains our distinctiveness in terms of identity and personality but enables our participation in the energies of God not participate in his essence which the Trinity alone will always possess.

The “God within” cannot happen in Christianity without the Baptism of the Holy Spirit. But in the Hindu religion that misinterpretation of God and confusing said God with the Self is what I notice.

The R1aryans found their fulfillment in Spiritual fulfillment in Christianity. But its a shame that the shilling focuses so much on the Semiticness of Jesus.

Which God took on when he was born in Bethlehem as the Second Adam. What’s your thoughts on why God deliberately placed such a stumbling block in the paths of many Racialist Pagans?

jim says:

The sons of Israel were the chosen people, and they were pretty based. Good folk in a degenerate civilization. The admonitions of Ipuwer complain that they continued to reproduce while Egyptians, and Bronze Age civilization generally, were failing to reproduce, and Exodus mentions the Egyptians getting pissed by this.

The latter part of the Old Testament is God getting increasingly pissed as they become increasingly debased. They holiness spiraled the letter of the law to evade the spirit of the law – they were Jewing God, treating the law as if it was a contract with a goy or a minor demon. Gnon was not amused. In the final part of of the life of Christ, they get unchosen. We are the chosen people. They not only unchosen, but are under a curse for deicide.

i says:

There does appear to be evidence that God is keeping his promise of keeping Jews alive as an Ethnic group(Romans 11).

That they will accept Jesus in the end.

In the meantime. It does seem awfully convenient. That there are constant attacks on Jesus Christ for his Jewishness.

And on Christians for being slaves of Jewish peoples. For worshipping a Jew.

Like on this comment by a Pajeet on this thread for example:

In a grand scale. Modern Whites are like Niggers. They don’t have identity. Their pagans trails show that they were faggots and trannies. Their Christian trails show that they were jew bootlickers. Their Crusaders trails show that they fought the wrong enemy (Muslims). Jews have been Jewing White men for more than 2000 years. Funny if you see a white man call black culture-less.

https://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/390035842#p390037500

And this:
https://i.4cdn.org/pol/1659843851031305.jpg

And given how they are becoming the despised Ethnic group in the world for the actual crimes of many of their members. Especially among proported Right-wingers and shills.

God must have anticipated this when he chose the people who would become the Jews.

jim says:

Yes, but anyone who makes this attack is not a Christian, and is ignorant of Christianity.

Parable of the wicked vinedressers

It is an ignorant and stupid attack, characteristic of pajeets and Jews, and, being ignorant and stupid, ineffectual.

Cloudswrest says:

I think it was mentioned here before but this is one of the plot elements of “a deepness in the sky.”

jim says:

> Meanwhile, the UFO videos declassified under Trump – and all the UFO observations that got dug up and discussed as a result of that, dating back to the 1950s – add up to a pretty conclusive argument that SOMETHING with technology completely out of scope of any human ability is keeping this planet under observation and has been for decades at least.

Nuts

notglowing says:

https://nitter.net/DrEliDavid/status/1552658980085944321
Link between vaccinations and monkeypox:

Prof. @shmuelcshapira, head of Israel Biological Institute (the most senior medical-scientific position in Israel) posted on the connection between monkeypox and you-know-what.
Twitter locked his account and forced him to delete it. They know more about biology than him

Does twitter think they are holier than the priests themselves?

Kunning Druegger says:

Way over my head, but Complexity is barking up the same tree:

https://hiddencomplexity.substack.com/p/sars-cov-2-orf8-regulates-immune

https://hiddencomplexity.substack.com/p/monkeypox-cases-post-vaccination

https://hiddencomplexity.substack.com/p/simultaneous-outbreaks-of-encephalitis

https://hiddencomplexity.substack.com/p/daily-briefing-monkeypox-and-new

Again, not at all my specialty, so please forgive any errors, but his thesis is, roughly, that the Vaxx has created a wave of immunity compromise so vast that many diseases and sicknesses that were basically dormant or non-factors in society are now becoming a big issue.

The idea has been tossed around that the Cathedral was attempting to make us all GIRDSfags, and there is an interesting logic to this. Take any random sodomite as an example: email-class job, hedonic pursuit as primary concern, carrier of a multitude of illnesses held at bay by regular medical treatment and a plethora of prescription meds, perpetual progressive in all things, and rabid defender of all things dysgenic. These are precisely the people that own nothing and like it. They have no need of land, or relationships, and the only kids they desire are the fucktoys provided by willfully ignorant parents and the CPS marketplace.

A big inconsistency in all this is the fact, pointed out by many, that those who oppose the Cathedral are precisely the ones who are sidestepping this whole “AIDs For All” operation. So, how is it that a conspiracy conspires to craft the virus, spread it everywhere, and target their own side? I believe Jim’s thesis is that they wanted to cull the population, but Dr. Shanikwa was too busy making tiktok videos to actually do it right, and the lethality disappeared as the virus mutated to be more effective at surviving and less effective at culling. So does not this imply that one theory of conspiracy negate the other? If the plot was to release a virus to cull the planet, why is the mechanism of follow up a plot to immuno-compromise the planet?

notglowing says:

> A big inconsistency in all this is the fact, pointed out by many, that those who oppose the Cathedral are precisely the ones who are sidestepping this whole “AIDs For All” operation. So, how is it that a conspiracy conspires to craft the virus, spread it everywhere, and target their own side?

See, I do not believe the vaccine was designed to harm their side.
If these people are sick it isn’t because a bioweapon wrongly targeted them, it’s the result of their unhealthy lifestyle and false beliefs which lead them to depend on false science.

I’m not yet convinced that releasing covid was intentional and a plan to cull the population. It is possible, but I don’t believe it’s the simplest explanation.

It does seems likely that covid was engineered in a lab, and I don’t need a justification for why they would do that.

I can put myself in their shoes and see why a bio researcher would want to develop a bioweapon of mass destruction. To begin with, I wanted to become a physicist, and I would have wanted to do the same thing myself, in my field. To release it on the general population where it could infect anyone and everyone is much more difficult to justify.

Whether it was planned or not, the virus was released and did not cause enough devastation to convince people like us that it was worth participating in their experiment; the vaccine was also a failure in that it is simply ineffective.
It being dangerous as well is a result of incompetence and perhaps a reflection of their own metaphysical beliefs. If they no longer believe in the concept of a healthy human in the first place how can they possibly make working vaccines?

The Cominator says:

Releasing the slightly souped up flu was intentional 100% the purposes are debatable but the media psyops and constant lying from the beginning prove that there was nothing accidental or organic about the whole covid scam.

Kunning Druegger says:

What duped me was the “raw footage” out of China combined with the MSM maintaining that there was nothing to any of the rumors. Pandemics and government cover ups are a real concern, though now it is incredibly complicated because what do when there is a confluence of scamdemic and pandemic?

Was CCP complicit is the Coronahoax (the removal of Trump theory), were/are they complicit in the depopulation theory? It feels like we’ve arrived at some kind of “quantum conspiracy” in that many individual assertions have individual merits, but when viewed as a whole, they break down. What is the Unified Conspiracy Theory, or is that even something worth looking for? It makes sense somewhat from the Distributed Conspiracies angle, but not much.

The Cominator says:

It never fooled me because

1) IF there was a REAL deadly virus pretending it didn’t exist would only benefit Trump

2) Korean data

Its best to do nothing with pandemics that you don’t have a cure for, the economy is important than futile efforts to save people thru foolish government actions they simply must run their course.

Xi was involved (locking down Wuhan but not the international airport and making those propaganda films) but he wasn’t the originator the plan came as far as the evidence shows from Fauci and Fauci is a Jesuit as was the then CDC director Redfield, the party and Chinese government was not collectively involved except at a VERY high level close to Xi.

notglowing says:

> 1) IF there was a REAL deadly virus pretending it didn’t exist would only benefit Trump

No, if there was a real deadly virus, it would’ve made perfect sense for them to deny it. If anything the fact that they did shows not everyone was on the same page in the beginning, and after all how could they be? You think someone just sends a memo to every journalist about how they should pretend the very real virus is not real?
No, even if the release was intentional, very few people knew about it, and consensus on what to do with covid took time to flip.

Lockdowns meant giving up on open borders and gay parades and all sorts of left wing holy cows, not to mention it required them blaming non white people for the origin of it, all openly contradicting leftist doctrine.

Shutting down free movement of people, and admitting to the virus coming from China were both a big deal at the time, and exactly why Trump was called racist for closing the border.
I don’t believe this was some cold calculated move, it was entirely in character for the left to put sodomy and immigration ahead of public health and ignore real problems stemming from it.

I remember a bunch of homosexuals organizing “corona potluck” parties, and similar nonsense. And this is why many on the right were on board with border closures, less so with lockdowns, which came weeks later chronologically.

Plus your argument that pretending the virus didn’t exist would benefit Trump is assuming they would always know the truth, when they are almost always wrong unintentionally or intentionally and lie about everything regardless.
There’s really no situation where they have been honest about anything, and the fact that in theory something reflects badly on them never matters. When is that ever accounted for in strategy? They can say whatever they want, because the media can spin anything against Trump or their enemies.
And they very much did, Trump was the first to react to covid after all, and he was still the cause of it in the end, literally blaming him for every single covid death.

Even after covid insanity hit its peak they were still going after Trump being the cause of blacks attacking asians after covid, as if he caused it, or as if he was the reason for the covid panic. They can run completely contradictory narratives such as blm riots not spreading covid and right wing protests spreading it, and have absolutely no issues from it.

The Cominator says:

“Lockdowns meant giving up on open borders and gay parades and all sorts of left wing holy cows”

Trump had ended the open border mostly already. Sacrificing legal immigration for a little while in order to crush Trump and his economic miracle was a small price to pay. Gay parades are merely meant to demoralize and humiliate… they are not generally an end in themselves.

I was of course fine with border closures because too many immigrants even legal but I always emphasized this was bullshit and not to be taken too seriously, stop rationalizing your lack of discernment.

“Plus your argument that pretending the virus didn’t exist would benefit Trump is assuming they would always know the truth, when they are almost always wrong unintentionally or intentionally and lie about everything regardless.”

The people who orchestrated the hoax at the highest level always knew it was hype. If no virus officially no lockdowns no mail in ballots no economic problems (even if the virus was a bigger deal and a few million old people died for purposes of economics it would be mostly an inconsequential statistic, and may in fact have been slightly bullish in that many would inherit boomer property faster) hence Trump wins a much less fraud plagued election bigly.

notglowing says:

> The people who orchestrated the hoax at the highest level always knew it was hype.

This does not follow from

> If no virus officially no lockdowns no mail in ballots no economic problems

And I don’t agree. If they tried to cause a pandemic intentionally then they must’ve believed it was possible. You are giving them too much credit for no reason. If they caused it intentionally they must’ve believed at the start that it could work, and had to hype it up later to compensate for a lack of results.

Economic problems caused by covid may well have been intentional, but they failed to put public opinion against Trump, and so they had to do mail in ballots, and cheat.
Still, it was not enough, so they had to drop in the 3 AM ballots from nowhere last minute at the cost of looking even more suspicious.

It looks like they lacked foresight at every step, and simply managed to fix the problems, rather than everything being planned from the start.

>Trump had ended the open border mostly already.
He had reduced illegal border crossings, and only in the US. Free movement of immigrants was still a big thing and a topic of discussion at the time, legal or not.

> Gay parades are merely meant to demoralize and humiliate… they are not generally an end in themselves.

Gay parades and sodomy were basically suspended for months with women and homosexuals complaining they had to avoid sex with strangers for a while, it wasn’t insignificant, and parades humiliate but they are also an end in itself as is humiliating regular people.

It was definitely a big deal to let covid overshadow all of these things that were core to left wing priorities before. Covid simply took over as a much stronger religion.

notglowing says:

Also, let’s not forget the *real* precedent of AIDS and how they reacted to that.

With gays pushing against doctors wanting bathhouses temporarily closed due to the spread, and protesting against them for being homophobic, continuing to sodomize each other for years as they died in droves, and then later spinning this as the homophobic doctors not caring enough for them being the cause for their plight.

Fauci himself was part of that, as he handled AIDS at the time.
This is how the left reacts to a real pandemic actually spread by the sodomy it considers holy. They certainly were not willing to give it up and ban it for a while, though the worst places (bath houses) *were* eventually closed, to be fair. Years later.

The Cominator says:

The two points you cited are not directly related…

Aids was hyped up as a hetero thing by Fauci the Jesuit as one more psyop to alienate men from women.

Varna says:

In some parts of Eastern Europe adults have shit health; men dropping dead around 70 is the norm.
https://www.worlddata.info/life-expectancy.php

Covid hit them hard, everybody knows a guy or family member who dropped dead. Or was killed in hospital Italy-style, but to just get there he already had to be pretty far gone.

To the poor fucks in parts of EE the first wave was real. The current one not so much, not on grass root level that is.

skippy says:

“Whether it was planned or not, the virus was released and did not cause enough devastation to convince people like us that it was worth participating in their experiment; the vaccine was also a failure in that it is simply ineffective.”

The virus never caused any visceral harm let alone “devastation” it was just presented as doing so by the media, in what looked like a very carefully orchestrated campaign across many countries and for which they started laying groundwork months in advance.

The media messaging between Feb and May 2020 is the strongest evidence that COVID was planned.

I doubt it was planned to be a pure lie that would make the media look ridiculous. It was meant to kill a huge amount of old people and some healthy younger people. Not just care home residents.

Mister Grumpus says:

Maybe these dumbfucks are evil enough to try to cull humanity with a man made plague and/or vaccine, but also too PC and stupid to make sure to keep Shaniqua out of the execution. Those two instincts would go together, wouldn’t they?

By the way, remember those “Earth is Healing” pictures of animals and such returning to certain habitats when industry/transport were at a standstill? Those seemed a bit suspicious too.

Mister Grumpus says:

@skippy:
“The media messaging between Feb and May 2020 is the strongest evidence that COVID was planned.”

What do you remember about the media messaging from that period? What themes? What coincidences? What suspicious correlations?

skippy says:

IDK what kind of secret squirrel you are expecting.

All I remember is covid being forced hard to the front of the show for months before Bergamo and any arguable mass death event.

They kept telling us this would be a huge deal over and over again before there was any evidence that it wouldn’t disappear like SARS 1, MERS, various Ebola outbreaks, etc.

Gedeon says:

Italy’s hug a Chinese person viral campaign. Pelosi in Chinatown. De Blasio telling people to socialize. Trump is a racist for travel bans. The control freaks were trying to maximize transmission of the virus. The real payload of the virus was centralized government, so CFR isn’t even the critical benchmark. For me, CFR was the axe because I knew we would have disinformation as well as bad data and deaths are the hard one to fake when we would all have good anecdotal data to evaluate.

2020+ was a big push towards centralized command and control over all of the developed world. CFR can come through vaccines, if you can trick most and coerce everyone else into taking your mystery cocktails. Via genome instability, I think we are primed for a massive cancer epidemic that will exceed the VaxIDS.

Leon says:

They think they are smarter than they are and their tricks are tailor made for those who are blue pilled/ tied into the culture.

The Cominator says:

The Covid psyop wasn’t planned by Shaniqua even if some aspects of the vaccine were it was planned by the Jesuits. The Jesuits are many things but not stupid…

skippy says:

Frankly releasing a virus expecting it to do whatever is pretty stupid. We know very little about virus evolutionary dynamics. The failures were predictable.

Of course you don’t need to be Shaniqua to get novel scientific problems wrong or to bury yourself in your own hubris. But these guys were not the A Team. They would have had a fundamentally different plan.

S says:

Maybe they were expecting it to hit the airport and spread everywhere on earth at the same time. So all they needed was it to not mutate for about a month. For some reason this didn’t happen.

skippy says:

I agree with this and I’ve seen it in many more minor situations.

Typically what happens is they think they are “tricking” people where really they just have material leverage like an employment relationship that the “trickee” is dependent on. The “trickee” pretends to have been tricked but the “trickster” really believes he outsmarted him.

Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

The common (and often unintentional) subtlety is that the ‘trick’ provides an excuse for the subject to rationalize their acquiescence to power, in a way that allows them to spare their egos much of the humiliation of submission. Where being forced to openly acknowledge – to themselves most of all – that they are submitting to a power because it is forcing them to submit, becomes intolerable.

Progressive collapse of the priesthood’s narrative control can be seen in this, in its increasing inability to provide utilible ‘figleaves’ for its increasingly deranged demands, as it increasingly falls to reliance on unambiguously naked force. Which in turn, presages fragile equilibriums approaching tipping points.

skippy says:

US institutions seem to do this also where power relations are natural. Or maybe Im just not on a high enough level of “every child is a winner” to understand

jim says:

US institutions do not do this, perhaps because their power relations are always absurdly unnatural.

skippy says:

Im talking about dealing with US institutions on a private level, mostly as a contractor in business. I dealt with constant attempts at scams and deceptions including from what you might regard as “serious” organizations. Often they actually did not have any leverage over me and when I refused their tricks they had no recourse. Sometimes they even revealed they were weaker than I has presumed them to be by backing down and was able to renegotiate the situation to my advantage. On the whole, this behavior was exhausting and wasted a large proportion of what would have otherwise been working time. In the end I cut my ties with these organizations.

Whether this is representative of how higher level organizations behave is another question. Obviously at a higher level, especially the level of the anarchy of states, the US government in fact has a huge amount of physical leverage. But I suspect it does reflect the way they think and approach problems, and the way they deal with each other.

simplyconnected says:

A big inconsistency in all this is the fact, pointed out by many, that those who oppose the Cathedral are precisely the ones who are sidestepping this whole “AIDs For All” operation.

You can assume they are not very good at understanding the deplorable side.
Also, you can’t assume that they knew what was going to happen (that mostly their side took the vax).
In their 201 exercise they talk of people who resist the vax, and mention three groups: some black (mistrust from Tuskigi experiment), some muslims (religious reasons), and some evangelical Christians (religious reasons). They then discussed how targeted messaging should be employed to persuade them. So as you can see they thought a very small minority would resist, and had plans to try to persuade those, so maybe they even expected some of those to cave too.
It looks to me as though the plan was to inject basically everyone. If so then the fact that vaxxed were overwhelmingly cathedralites may have been an own goal.

Mister Grumpus says:

So even well after 2016, they couldn’t imagine that there was a sizeable portion of people who just didn’t trust them anymore on sheer principle? Just the kind of prideful and unimaginative I would imagine.

Honestly without Trump, the Vegas shooting, Wikileaks and handkerchiefs with maps that appear pizza related on them, I’d have been more likely to fall for it all too. We really did squeak through a bottleneck there.

Varna says:

Hallelujah yes. Without Trump and the pizza napkins many of us would have been mostly asleep.

Varna says:

And Andre Wang Lin and his Stormer posse, tbh. And Unz.

simplyconnected says:

So even well after 2016, they couldn’t imagine that there was a sizeable portion of people who just didn’t trust them anymore on sheer principle?

I can’t know, but I always suspected that they thought Trump and Fox support for the vax would be enough to get conservatives on board. You know how simplistic their view of their political opponents is.

Note that “devolution” guy claims that, from his twitter poll, he saw that the vast majority of people did not change their vax decision based on Trump’s endorsement, which is why he thinks Trump’s endorsement was a 4D chess move (I think he was misled, but Trump could’ve also been in on the plan, judging from his 1 sec. delay when replying yes to whether he was boostered, a tell of a lie for someone as quick witted). Trump’s support for the vax is to me the most puzzling thing in all this.

We really did squeak through a bottleneck there.

So far. I’m still in paranoid mode, deathly afraid of hospitals.

Mister Grumpus says:

I mean the Trump Experience Dissolution Bottleneck inculcated distrust of institutions and “experts” into a whole lot of people, and fast too, just in time for Covid and probably saving many lives once the vaxxes came around.

The paranoia you feel means it’s working!

Without it, maybe the Event 201 people would have been right, and only a few freaks and weirdos wouldn’t have bought into it.

What a terrible and magical time.

simplyconnected says:

Without it, maybe the Event 201 people would have been right, and only a few freaks and weirdos wouldn’t have bought into it.

I think you are right. Red pilling has been happening bigly since at least 10 years (Heartiste started I think 2007 and red pilled a lot of people).
John Coleman (“The Committee of 300”) speaks in the early 90s of a club of Rome inspired cull plan for 2050. Lets say that’s the case. TPTB might have been forced to start early due to fast public red-pilling. And even the existing red-pilling may have been enough for the ~30% pureblood rate in the US (estimates from random samples in UK are similar).

simplyconnected says:

Btw, I have to post this here because it’s the most surprising thing I’ve seen in the last few months: a video of Trump at Davos in 2020 saying the future is bright if we ignore the prophets of doom from the club of Rome (he doesn’t explicitly say club of Rome, but I assume he’s talking about the MIT studies by Jay W. Forester, and “The limits to growth”, funded by the club of Rome).

Neurotoxin says:

Simply, why do you find it surprising that Trump would say that?

Kunning Druegger says:

I’m more surprised about where he’s saying it.

simplyconnected says:

Simply, why do you find it surprising that Trump would say that?

I just never knew what Trump’s position on this was. Whether he was aware of their plans (or how they planned to carry them out). It’s significant that he chose to say something publicly opposing the CoR at a place which can be seen as the public-facing part of the CoR (CoR and WEF are strongly aligned: CoR known to be in attendance in 2020, CoR reports launched at the WEF, there’s also some video of Klaus Schwab talking about CoR being part of the WEF). Trump said this just as the virus-vax plans were starting. It seems significant, but don’t know what significance it has in practice.

simplyconnected says:

Neurotoxin wrote:

Simply, why do you find it surprising that Trump would say that?

I think CoR and WEF are basically the same group of people, WEF being the public-facing part. CoR knew for a long time that they were strongly disliked. So it makes sense that a different organization would be created to launder their ideas to the public. Their goals are basically the same, judging from Klaus’ book and The First Global Revolution A Report By The Council Of The Club Of Rome.
I would like to think that Trump was aware of their plans and is effectively declaring war. Why would he antagonize them if he was going to do nothing?. But it’s probably just hopium on my part.

Neurotoxin says:

“I think CoR and WEF are basically the same group of people, WEF being the public-facing part.”

Bad news, if true.

Cataclysm Reawake says:

Was PizzaGate real? Correct me if I’m wrong, but I thought that even if the general thrust of elite figures being boyfuckers is correct, there’s no evidence that they conducted any of those activities at the Comet Pizza shop or that they use cheese pizza as a codeword for child porn.

Kunning Druegger says:

My impression was that They are indeed into any and all forms of child sacrifice, and that much of what the Q op was intended for was muddying those waters in particular, as well as a host of other topics. Gay couples adopting children, working as elementary school teachers, and CPS civil servants is how they collect their sacrifices Sodomites always congregate like pigs around a trough.

Dear Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner.

A2 says:

The owner of Comet Pizza, James Alefantis, had strangely deep DC connections for a pizza shop owner. And then there were his odd photos with infants. And then there were those leaked pizza emails from Hillary’s campaign written in some sort of code. And the curious art enjoyed by the Podesta brothers. Something seemed to be going on.

Also Epstein proved there’s no lack of interest in the topic.

Varna says:

The images are available public and everyone must judge for themselves what these images imply.
https://dcpizzagate.files.wordpress.com/2016/11/gross1.png
https://dcpizzagate.files.wordpress.com/2016/11/moneybaby.png
https://dcpizzagate.wordpress.com/

I have a fertile imagination but can’t come up with any innocent explanations.

Varna says:

Another bombastic site with lots of bullshit but also some obviously real creepy stuff
https://www.theorionlines.com/pizzagate

Neurotoxin says:

Simplyconnected:
“You can assume they are not very good at understanding the deplorable side.”

That’s my read. They really do not realize how much they are distrusted and hated by a large fraction of the population. Their planned message was to have the New York Times say, “SCIENCE says the vaccines are safe and effective.” It did not even occur to them that a large fraction of people on the right would have a reaction of, “You’re obviously lying.”

simplyconnected says:

I was thinking about what Mister Grumpus was saying:

So even well after 2016, they couldn’t imagine that there was a sizeable portion of people who just didn’t trust them anymore on sheer principle?

Our host understands this much better, but I think cathedralites cannot express Mister Grumpus’ thought without committing a thoughtcrime. If they use the word “principle”, then you are saying that those horrible extremists have principles, and you’ll be suspected of being a horrible extremist yourself. A cathedralite might say instead something to the effect of “a sizeable portion of the right is no longer trusting the science and the data, believes misinformation instead”. They have a problem in not understanding their opponents (I hope it stays that way.)

Javier says:

Ron Unz makes a compelling case that covid was developed by the US with the goal of targeting China but it backfired. Personally I never saw any sign covid was more than a plain old Corona strain, with everything that happened being downstream media hysteria deployed opportunistically for political gain.

Maybe it was bad when it was first released and it quickly mutated into a stable variant like normal Corona. Maybe the researchers hyped up their results to impress their superiors while knowing their China virus wasn’t all that lethal. I don’t think it really matters because we will never know the truth and the panic was 100% obviously manufactured, virus or otherwise.

Neurotoxin says:

“I never saw any sign covid was more than a plain old Corona strain, with everything that happened being downstream media hysteria deployed opportunistically for political gain.”

But the timing! The timing was so convenient for the mail-in ballots fraud.

Javier says:

Right. Well, what the government wants and what it actually does are not always the same thing.

I’m sure there was a government plan to develop a super bug. I’m sure the people in the lab made an honest attempt to make said bug. I’m sure they told everyone in charge the super killer bug was very deadly and lethal. Yet, what they had was just another flu strain.

As Rumsfeld famously said, “You go to war with the army you have.” When it was released and did not prove nearly as dramatic as advertised, media to the rescue! Just tell everyone it’s Armageddon and make them ignore their lying eyes. Gotta admit it worked pretty well.

Way back in Feb or March of 2020 I noticed that the official CDC flu counts each week were going down by the amount the covid counts were going up, nearly 1:1. So whether covid was a new disease or a rebrand of the flu doesn’t really matter because in effect it was doing the same thing the flu always does year after year. (Also recall the official flu disappeared over the pandemic, from millions of yearly cases to a few thousand!)

I just had a third close acquaintance die from “suddenly”. Mysterious clots and infections that have “no explanation.” Still don’t know anyone who died of covid.

Neurotoxin says:

I don’t know anyone who died of COVID either. Nor can I recall anyone I know saying that they know someone who died of it.

As to the COVID literally just being the flu but re-branded, it seems hard to believe they could pull that off without everyone in the medical profession correcting them – remember, there was a period in late Feb/early March 2020 when anyone who wanted to wear masks was a “Trumpian fascist” or whatever. Surely physicians and nurses would have happily said (before the rhetorical about-face) “Don’t let Trump push his Nazi masking plan onto you over this; it’s just the normal flu!”

The Cominator says:

“As to the COVID literally just being the flu but re-branded, it seems hard to believe they could pull that off without everyone in the medical profession correcting them”

Nobody was allowed to publically tell the truth about covid outside Japan and South Korea.

The Japanese did not say literally the flu but they to my knowledge said it was a souped up corona virus possibly lab modified… and it seems to compete with the flu somehow as flu disappeared and was reported as “covid” in 2020.

jim says:

The flu is a random grab bag of ailments that occupy the flu ecological niche, some of which can exchange genetic material with each other to a greater or lesser extent. Pretty sure covid infections, of which there were and are a great many, used to be called flu.

Javier says:

Virology is a very murky science. They lied about HIV for 40 years, why wouldnt they think they could lie about the flu? You can’t tell viruses apart visually even with an electroni microscope and the viral lab “purification” process is a hilarious joke. PCR tests can be calibrated to give any result you want. That along with all the endless “variants” and multitude of dubious tests, who knows what the hell is even happening (eg Elon Musk taking 4 tests in a row with random results).

Fauci and Birx made it clear if you are a lab which depends on government funding (which is all of them) you will report the party line. Just like all the other blatantly obvious cathedral lies all the normies swallow every day.

Neurotoxin says:

Cominator, Jim, Javier:

My position is based on pure politics: There was a period of several weeks during which getting concerned about COVID was “MAGA fascism.” It seems to me that tens of thousands of vurtue-signalling doctors and nurses would have weighed in during that period with, “This is nothing to get worked up about; it’s just the normal flu.”

Recall that “It’s nothing to get worked up about” was in fact the politically correct position circa Feb 15, 2020. I know our enemies have powerful control over the discourse, but they don’t have a time machine!

Neurotoxin says:

Jim: “The flu is a random grab bag of ailments that occupy the flu ecological niche, some of which can exchange genetic material with each other to a greater or lesser extent. Pretty sure covid infections, of which there were and are a great many, used to be called flu.”

This seems very believeable, and yet…

The Cominator says:

Stop clinging to this bullshit covid was downplayed until it wasn’t. This was by design its part of how they fooled yoy and this has been explained to you 100 times.

And to answer Javier’s early position covid was never intended to be like the virus from the stand.

Neurotoxin says:

Cominator, calm down.

“Covid was downplayed until it wasn’t” is precisely my point.

If COVID-19 is unambiguously just the flu then many people would have said that while it was hip to oppose “Trumpian fascism” on the issue.

On the other hand, if its all too tangled and complicated to decide what’s flu and what’s not, then it’s meaningless to say “It’s literally the flu.”

That it’s no more lethal than a bad strain (or by some measures, an average strain) of the flu I am quite aware.

The Cominator says:

The orders weren’t to say it was the flu the people in charge always knew the about face was coming.

Neurotoxin says:

“The orders weren’t to say it was the flu”

No kidding.

A2 says:

The interesting part to me was the Iranian leadership going down with Covid quite early. While it somehow could have been just bad luck guv, don’t ask us how, that gives some credibility to enemy action. Worth looking into.

Your Uncle Bob says:

A big inconsistency in all this is the fact, pointed out by many, that those who oppose the Cathedral are precisely the ones who are sidestepping this whole “AIDs For All” operation.

Remember Remdesivir and ventilation. The first alone is a killshot, the second is a gamble to be taken only when the patient is dying without it. Together, the first year hospital treatment protocol accounts for hundreds of thousands of deaths, maybe half a million.

Who got Remdesivir and ventilation? Well, some of everybody, but preferentially the unvaxxed who were foolish enough to present themselves at a hospital, and especially if they were naive enough to ask for ivermectin or hydroxychloroquine. They belatedly tried to get the holdouts, once they figured out how many there were.

Leon says:

Is the COMT gene and testing real, or just another way to try and hunt down warriors? Like anti social personality disorder is just a way for the effeminate quackery that is psychiatry to drug men.

Varna says:

>Like anti social personality disorder is just a way for the effeminate quackery that is psychiatry to drug men.

It will turn out in his demonic way Ron Hubbard was right about a whole lot. From competing satanists truths can be heard, while they’re a young cult and fighting for recognition.

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, the Mission Earth ten volume troll saga reads today as if it is not 40 years old but written last week.

Cloudswrest says:

Came across an old B&W picture on Twitter of emaciated corpses and vultures which piqued my curiosity because it didn’t look African. Did some TinEye research and it turns out it was from “Direct Action Day” (of which I had never heard) in 1946 Calcutta. Following a maze of twisty little hyperlinks I stumbled upon this gem of inverted reality on Wikipedia, Part of a series on: “Violence against Muslims in India”, “Islamophobia”, “Discrimination”. The “Religion of Peace” is so put upon.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Violence_against_Muslims_in_India

someDude says:

Here we go again! At this point, we’re just numb.

Kunning Druegger says:

Strange, off-topic question: does anyone have any insight into the CIS member states on a domestic level?

I’m wondering how much Moscow has to manage in terms of its assets and resources going into security and infrastructure in the smaller states. Are there Russians in the police departments and any civil infrastructure as a common feature, or does it vary wildly state to state?

Kunning Druegger says:

спасибо товарищ

Pax Imperialis says:

DoJ announced federal charges against four current and former Louisville Metro Police officers in connection to Breonna Taylor.

It’s absolute and complete bullshit. Just more destruction of law and order.

Some positive news is that Soros backed agents are being removed by cops sent by DeSantis. One must wonder how he keeps getting away with it.

Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

The theories i’m seeing is that he’s being set up as a wedge to split opposition between Trump and himself.

The Cominator says:

We should not overtly care when the political class betrays its enforcers. Backing the blue is for boomer cuckservatives only not for us. We don’t want more cops we want Florida stand your ground laws nationwide.

Kunning Druegger says:

Completely agree, but you have to remember that this will fall on the Sheriff’s Departments that are actually good to and wanted by their charges. This excludes every city and many counties, but they are out there. How to support guns and badges in the hands of kulaks and dissident elites while encouraging and applauding the disassembly of the police state?

If Desantis is actually moving the needle in Florida bureaucratic state, we should see a change in the state apparatuses over time, like police and others. And we will almost assuredly see if Desantis is /ourguy/ or not be whether he allows himself to be used as a wedge in the discourse.

Kunning Druegger says:

If anyone has an interest in diving down the Policing rabbit hole, here is a good place to start:

https://www.youtube.com/c/PoliceActivity/videos

No video in particular. Just start watching. Of course the “enforcement actions” are more entertaining, but if you are willing and able, watch the longer ones and listen to how they talk, how they communicate with each other, citizens, and suspects. try to get a feel for the moment, what they are going through and how they deal with it. there is a lot of intel and data that gets streamed out and ignored, as people prefer 30 second clips and dramatic moments.

After reviewing enough footage, one will likely come away with a sense of just how incapable and ignorant many, most in fact, working officers are. They are not selected for their intelligence or nuanced appreciation of law and society. In fact the selection criteria varies wildly. The retention rate for officers over time is abysmal. Many quit out in the first few years. It’s hard to find a bureau or force out there that is desperately struggling to hire and retain. This means soaring incentives and falling restrictions, with the added DEI filter that is afflicting all businesses and workforces.

I predict a general transition to private security for public policing in the next 10 years. Private security outnumbers sworn police by roughly 10 to 1, with most if not all Statal Infrastructure being controlled by AUS or a competitor. The District is the model the Cathedral seems to be working towards for every city. In some areas, very few most likely, this will mean better police and policing. In most areas, it will become substantially worse. My gut says that they think they can do the federal civil service model (hire blacks, whacks, and fags) as a stop gap until pre-crime and automated policing ( https://youtu.be/dG1wO-ClEQA ) can be rolled out nationwide. The private companies will provide the “remote enforcer” operators, and the country will be divided up into a patchwork of zones under the control of the various security companies.

This is just a theory, and systemic collapse and tech decline could make it unreachable, if it is actually a goal being worked towards.

Red says:

I predict a general transition to private security for public policing in the next 10 years. Private security outnumbers sworn police by roughly 10 to 1, with most if not all Statal Infrastructure being controlled by AUS or a competitor. The District is the model the Cathedral seems to be working towards for every city. In some areas, very few most likely, this will mean better police and policing. In most areas, it will become substantially worse. My gut says that they think they can do the federal civil service model (hire blacks, whacks, and fags) as a stop gap until pre-crime and automated policing ( https://youtu.be/dG1wO-ClEQA ) can be rolled out nationwide. The private companies will provide the “remote enforcer” operators, and the country will be divided up into a patchwork of zones under the control of the various security companies.

The much more likely outcome is Communist cops where the progressive make the criminals the police and they prey on the public, as seen in Venezuela, Russia, etc.

A2 says:

The Cathedral would like a federalized police force.

DavyCrockett says:

Even the official cuckpilled statistics are now reporting that boosted people have more than twice the infection rate for covid than people who merely got the original non-booster shot. Imagine how bad the Actual Statistics are.

Kunning Drueger says:

Off topic topic:

What is the Jimian Christian position on the Younger Dryas Cult/body of theory? Is there any validity to it, or is it the fever dream of pothead scientists?

jim says:

The younger Dryas event is Noah’s flood, and was originally described and depicted as such in the mainstream literature. It did not drown the whole world, but did drown the coastline, where all permanent settlements were located. And they stayed under water. The waters did not recede.

The question in dispute is was the Younger Dryas Event caused by a comet (minority hypothesis), or the collapse of ice dams leading a flood of meltwater into the oceans, which in consequence rose abruptly.

Mainstream scientific opinion is that collapse of ice dams did it. But interestingly, both sides of the debate are terrified of noticing the sudden permanent rise in sea levels, with the comet guys even more terrified. The mainstream (ice damn collapse) theory accuses the comet theory guys of motivated reasoning. What motivates them?

What motivates them is to do an even more thorough job of writing the sudden rise in sea levels out of history.

Kunning Druegger says:

That was my read, too (way less sophisticated on my end, I lack the tools/experience). It should be noted that this guy:

https://youtu.be/G0Cp7DrvNLQ

Randall Carlson, straight up calls out the Global Warmingists in their opposition to the Comet Younger Dryas, for very logical reasons, those being that it undercuts all of their key assumptions on climatic stability as well as cataclysmic impact. Very pleasurable to listen to him. I bet in private, he would ace and RPWQs. Actually, so would Rogan. Inveterate drug smokers, may be, but all real men know what the fuck is up with tha bitchez off camera.

restitutor_orbis says:

Jim, do you believe there was a predecessor civilization or were the people struck by the Young Dryas event stone age ?

jim says:

Stone age civilization. Probably had impressive woodworking and impressive boats made of wood and rope. No metals, except for meteoric iron and natural copper found in the rocks, rather than smelted from copper ore, a few pictographs incapable of representing speech. Food production primarily fishing and gathering shellfish. Temple based government. Permanent settlements on river mouths and fishing and trade ports.

This is all guesswork based on hints and circumstantial evidence in those cultures that were not drowned of an earlier civilization, that they perceived as older and greater, that was drowned.

Egypt in its greatness was stone age, with enormously advanced stone working technology which we do not understand and cannot equal, probably because we are more interested in metals technology. Early Egyptian stone structures used impressive stone working technology to imitate wood, hinting they inherited from a civilization that did impressive woodwork.

restitutor_orbis says:

Thanks! That seems a sensible midway position between the orthodox position of “our ancestors were just small hunter gatherer bands and any evidence otherwise we just toss out” and the woo-woo position of “space Atlanteans with lasers working under the Annunaki”.

Kunning Druegger says:

I wonder if the progression of technological advance “we” followed is the only path possible, or if there are other ways to arrive at the same rough location. I know reddit is a cesspool, but one of those guys made a good point I never considered: iron and steel made using saltwater in the forging process degrades very rapidly. There may have been many metal tools, but they have wasted away and were never preserved. This is thin, as there should be other evidence, like kilns and forges and piles of rust, but it is an interesting thought.

What really stands out from the body of work submitted by the Younger Dryas Cult is just how terribly dynamic the surface of the earth is. I always maintained the “long and slow” image of geographic change, because that is the orthodox position, but it would appear that the reality is far more dynamic.

Wulfgar Thundercock III says:

If chemistry was to be discovered early, then it might be possible to develop a catalytic advancement path, and maybe if you had the right conditions you could make do with selective breeding and genetic engineering. I read an interesting book once where a race of sapient spiders developed down a genetic engineering path due to their domestication of ant analogues, leading to chemical manipulation of pheromones and eventually gene modding.

Without an alternative case, it is hard to tell. The only two societies we know to develop science were Greece and Britain, and they were both moving down the metalworking path. Stone and wood cultures do not seem to have advanced beyond mastering stone and wood.

restitutor_orbis says:

I read that book too. At the end the spiders had functioning artificial intelligences running on insect-based chemical computers. Awesome.

Kunning Druegger says:

There seems to be an under-culture of YouTubers filming themselves doing very basic processes of development, like metallurgy and other stuff. The intentionally constrain themselves to “primitive” tools and methods and attempt to make things, do things, etc. TBH fam, its all pretty gay. It’s like, “I’m so (literally) privileged and affluent that I will make my mark doing things that are unnecessary just to feed the unquenchable flame of modernity induced boredom.” Silly, yes, but it makes me wonder what the potential value of gaming things out from Square 0 might be. Would it be possible to uncover some amazing shortcuts, side routes, alternate ways to get from A to Z, just by working from the ex nihilo state? Probably a waste of time, but the Younger Dryas Cult is a fascinating artifact of modernity. Completely unintentionally, they have created the circumstances for questioning the core ideology of scienceism, and I wonder what else could be drawn up from that well.

Anonymus says:

“It is all pretty gay”
This is pretty unfair
We are in a middle of technological stagnation and most likely decline if not outright collapse, youtube (excluding the prog stuff/cathedral propaganda) is the greatest remote mentorship/apprenticeship tool right now for self learning, i have seen people build microscope, electron microscope, even silicon chips in their home.
Including all the Real CS that should be tought in school like how screen/keyboard is working, design 8bit computer etc
If there is dark age coming, knowledge will be text/video shared between people.
Having a couple of video that teach and show how to extract iron ore plus treatment to get iron pallet
Or full video course of how to make chips will be absolutely invaluable

Kunning Drueger says:

I didn’t go out there to each of these YouTubers and make them soicuck betas with effeminate mannerisms, bro. The information is great, but Science & Engineering YT is gayer than reddit. I’d love for this to be different, but it is simply a matter of aesthetics and tendency.

jim says:

> Science & Engineering YT is gayer than reddit.

Examples?

I find this claim surprising.

Red says:

>TBH fam, its all pretty gay. It’s like, “I’m so (literally) privileged and affluent that I will make my mark doing things that are unnecessary just to feed the unquenchable flame of modernity induced boredom.”

The young guy doing primitive technology channel is doesn’t seem even remotely effeminate. He’s in great shape doing fun engineering stuff.

c4ssidy says:

It is hard to search for any video of anything without a slack jawed bearded faggot making ridiculous facial expressions and spending 3 minutes saying “hey guys let’s hang out, please like and subscribe” and other drizzle before going to the content. It’s a general site-wide poz. It is something I’m working personally on changing, the gist of it being that you type in specific acronyms to go along with the video you are searching for, which will typically mean something like “get straight to the point, and filter away the poz”

Kunning Druegger says:

Maybe I am biased, but every time I watch a YT video about engineering, chemistry, science, or computers, more often than not the subject, personality, content creator, whatever is effeminate, soifaced, or just very cucked by modernity. Even so, I reserve my judgement until I see their female company. More often than not, they are heavily tattooed, bad hairslutcut ladies who are very sciency xdlollmfaofam. There are exceptions. Practical Engineering has been, and continues to be, the single best channel on YouTube, but his characteristics are in line with what I am saying, though his wife seems submissive, cheery, and supportive, so he seems to be doing it right.

I know there are examples of manly men doing manly things that revolve around engineering and science, but the most popular are guys like Veritasium or Brian Cox or Tom Scott. They generate interesting fodder, but the cultural payload is pernicious and degrading.

yewotm8 says:

There are youtube addons already that will skip intros and things like in-video advertising segments that last a few minutes. Youtube is pretty good at going after them however, and they have to keep resurfacing with different names/webhosts every few weeks. But the functionality still works on Youtube Vanced, the one I’ve had on my phone for a year or so.

Mayflower Sperg says:

Every intelligent species in the universe gets one shot at the stars, and if they blow it, they get stuck in an eternal stone age on a planet picked clean of fossil fuels and usable ores. During our stone age, there were lumps of pure copper lying around that no one knew what to do with; today we open new mines to extract ores that are only 0.4% copper.

Iron ore and coal deposits might last through a few more rise-fall cycles, but there’s no more copper or oil in the ground accessible with 19th-century technology, and it’s not possible to re-invent 20th-century technology without copper.

Kunning Druegger says:

I disagree on the “One Shot” concept, but pedantically. I know it’s unpopular in our tribe, but I am a huge advocate of Recycle Culture. I don’t mean putting your bottles in Green bins, I mean collecting and reusing or re-processing every single scrap of material that could possibly be reused or re-processed. This can be as simple as repurposing plastic bottles and as complex as locating and harvesting lithium batteries. If the pressure of urban population survival and single use culture is removed from the equation, there is actually an abundance of resources available for practically any purpose. Landfills are just mines waiting to be exploited.

jim says:

Participating the greenie rituals, for example sorting stuff into council bins marked compostable, glass, carboard, etc, is demon worship. If you recycle stuff for your own use, or deliver it to someone who has need of it and will use it, that is not demon worship.

The greenie rituals do not, in fact, result in recycling. All gets dumped in the same landfill. They are a purely religious ritual that does not result in actually useful physical recycling. (Some things, like lead acid batteries, actually do get recycled, but as near to all of it as makes no difference is just an act of worship of the Gaia demon.)

Varna says:

A couple of years ago it suddenly turned out that the west’s green recycling scheme was in fact “export the garbage to China”. China balked, that’s when this became public.

They redirected the garbage flotilla to the Philippines, who then also balked, then they started bribing officials on the EE fringes, the people rose up, and I don’t know who received the garbage now.

But 2-3 years ago it became a known official fact that the green recycling thing was in reality “ship the garbage off for someone else to deal with”.

Kunning Drueger says:

Yeah, that was the left coast scandal. The right coast scandal was the fact that comingled recycling becomes hazmat if any of the glass gets broken, which then triggers an insane number of OSHA-style factors that make it fiscally impossible to derive profit from recycling. In the “sorting” process alone, something like 50-70% of material collected for recycling gets redirected to a landfill.

But this is Gaia worship bullshit. I’m talking about actual recycling, which is a process we’ve barely begun in terms of research and development of tools and methods. Every scrap of aluminum, steel, and copper should be collected and reprocessed. With research and time, I bet we could develop methods for everything. In the mean time, the solution is an old, familiar approach that actually works: segregation. The waste of human habitation should be collected and sorted and dumped in segregated landfills to await future tools and methods of exploitation.

Mayflower Sperg says:

Kunning, every chunk of ore torn out of the ground gets refined into pure metals, which over time oxidize into fine powder that blows away in the breeze. Except phosphorus, which is deliberately crushed into fine powder and spread on fields.

If you ever figure out a simple method to extract useful metals from old landfills, chisel it onto sheltered rock faces for our stone-age descendants to read.

Kunning Druegger says:

Extracting organics alone would be a good step. My family redirects all organic waste into the ground. I still need a dependable method for paper, and all I send to the landfill is inorganics. In my view, everything should segregated and stored for later potential exploitation. Landfill ecology is such that the layers beneath are not existing in the same state as the surfaces and edges.

https://youtu.be/n8KdoMYYWnE

This video is misleading to normies; if Iowa is actually doing what’s described therein, they are doing a good job. The reality, in my experience, is far more sloppy and variable. The landfill cell as described is the optimum case, and I am pretty sure the cross section of minds on this blog alone can see many potentials for use, reclamation, and repurposing that could be derived from well built landfills. Norway’s trash burning schema is so effective that they are net importers of trash, they literally can’t get enough. Burning is one option, the easiest and dumbest (good rule of thumb: if Covanta is able to do it, it isn’t that hard). Collection, sequestration, and selling should be one major goal of the coup-complete American Monarchy. Forget all the Green and gaia bullshit, this doesn’t change the fact that human society has a waste processing problem. We generate way too much just to keep taxpaying consooomers happy and spending. Whether we move towards a Termite Future, or a Dragonfly Future, or something in between, we need to figure out better methods of production and disposal. Just like my feelings on bastards, I believe the waste products of society can be made valuable with the proper processes and treatments.

Human biological waste is a good place to start, as there are plenty of good uses available for processed waste, but there are many other issues too. Glass is the Achilles Heel of recycling. I’ve (illegally) toured a “final resting place” for glass at a government sponsored, greenfag approved waste disposal facility, and it is horrifying. Years and years worth of waste glass dumped into vast piles, just moldering under the sun behind high walls yet open to the elements. You would not believe how insidious powdered glass is, a single breath is basically a death sentence, and a painful one. I don’t like glass, it’s coarse and irritating and it gets everywhere. Glass and ceramics will most likely last far longer than plastic nurdles (google them, super interesting), and unlike nurdles, very few macroscopic lifeforms can figure out how to exist around and near powdered glass. But glass is super valuable, it’s just energy intensive to deal with, and very fucking complicated. No one has put much effort into figuring out what to do with it. I fully expect that to change when the Sand Shortage moves out of internet legend fodder and truly starts to bite.

Human waste and glass are the tip of the literal iceberg. Mining and reprocessing landfills is not only an option for intelligently and frugally managing resources, it is imperative to live in a GNON compliant society. GNON loves the closed loop, it is the sacred structure of natural order; everything has a purpose, everything has a place, and if it doesn’t, it needs to be exterminated. There are obviously many things higher on the list of Needs To Be Addressed, but waste processing is something that I deem very important.

jim says:

> I still need a dependable method for paper,

We toss paper in the compost bin. Composts fine. Carboard we use to suppress the weeds, and cover with woodchips, straw, weedfree dirt, or gravel

We do in fact recycle, but I am deeply suspicious of and hostile to, recycling, as an act of worship of the Gaia demon.

Empirically I observe a strong correlation between demon worship and demonic behavior – self destructive evil.

Zero says:

Kunning what do you mean by dragonfly future? Some sort of seasteading like steady state of atomized communities or or just a Borg vs freeman distinction? It’s absurd how good the commies are at barnacling the ecological communities I’ve seen websites and blogs laid waste in less then a year by the commie speech shills and all the gnon eco mastery schemas people work on get obliterated and don’t propagate sadly, in terms of recycling the issue is not reprocessing as I see it, it’s that we are using the fundamentally wrong technology to reprocess corroded and discarded materials, this posts comments have been really interesting lately and I saw some guys talking about technological lock in of civilizations continuing to develop what they understand and not go back to look for alternative paths. I would put forward the idea that we never left wood age civilization. Several hundred years before Alexander some of the great Balkan forests still existed with primordial trees and Greek temples are obviously modelled from an original wood template which is where we get the fasces from(temple guards carrying a literal pillar of the temple and beating the crap out of scum with it) egyptian and sumerian cultures have the same wooden roots. Druidic pre deluge culture was a culture of hunters and temple settlements working wood and then stone with stone and then copper tools. Somewhere along the line someone figured out how to carve stone without eroding metal, there is no iron or copper on any of the pre deluge civilizations stone works like in Peru, Egypt and Japan, which I think is why the copper age lasted, they were coppicing trees that could be used with simple copper tools to make everything they needed and the American copper mines were enormous(incidentally Atlantis which might have been a limestone island used green gold for coins) somewhere shaping stone was lost altho I’m trying to figure it out and iron was used to make tools because there wasn’t enough timber and cities need stone walls. We are still a culture of hunters and temple cities, americas mythos in the 10s-30s was all about the hunt and the temple city of Columbia(world’s fair, detroit), it’s to bad that culture was dropped for GAE puritan gammorah, now we use carbide and hunt panzers. The problem we face with gnons cycle is that we are still using tools made from rock, you are fighting a problem of diffusion and dispersion with a technology tool kit built for concentration and thermal refinement using mechanical instruments, you need a way to recycle low grade material that is energy efficient and mining is not, how do you get mineral concentration without thermal or energy inefficient machinery? You do it every day with energy, just saying. Already plastics getting eaten only problem is it has loads of biological like hydrocarbons that mangle mono and multicellular organisms, fungus can digest plastic bags but need a high biological hydrocarbon environment to do it, but there are some bacteria developing chemical resistance to the psuedo metabolites in mineral hydrocarbon deposits and products, tho no one is allowed to develop them in America because of what the gov fears would happen with spiked wells. Do we have any good info on lunar titanium deposit? Haven’t been able to figure out whether the regolith is titanium rich or nasa handed out bullshit regolith? Some of those rocks had higher titanium concentration then commercially exploited deposits on holy terra but that flew under the radar because colonizing the moon is sacrilege. Why don’t we put glass into a sand bar after burning it like Norway and let they ocean turn it into beautiful sand for our kids sandboxes? Glass where it freezes isn’t thatsharp after a decade of thaw cycles in the ground.

Kunning Druegger says:

That’s a lot of text.

Termites are blind, succulent little beasts that are useless when alone but as a super-entity are capable of much.

Dragonflies are the most effective survival predators on the planet, and incredibly old. They have shrunk to adapt and individually rule self-established fiefs. They have evolved characteristics that preclude cannibalistic tendencies, unlike the other genius predators octopuses and spiders (both of which feed heavily on their own kind). The dragonfly dominates the maritime environment of their larval stage and the aerial environment of their adult stage. Acting singly in both stages, they nonetheless assist each other as well as humans by exterminating pests that plague mammals.

While the position of this blog is that there is no such thing as successful leftism, as leftism is entropy realized ideologically, there is a path to the stars through homogeny and centralized order. As a white, GNON obeying male, I much prefer the dragonfly path.

Red says:

Participating the greenie rituals, for example sorting stuff into council bins marked compostable, glass, carboard, etc, is demon worship.

That explains why I’m so disgusted by it and I take such glee in mixing items together to fuck with their system.

Red says:

>I disagree on the “One Shot” concept, but pedantically.

The tech required to extract difficult resources can only be developed step by step. You can’t go scrounging metals in a dump to building mining machines, TNT, and complex ore extractors. Once the metals in the dumps are used up, that’s it for that civilization.

c4ssidy says:

“The deposits form above the roof of a magma chamber that lies beneath an active volcano. As the magma crystallises into granitic rock in the subsurface, metal- and salt-rich aqueous solutions are expelled from the chamber. These fluids make their way up through the volcanic vent, which has already solidified into porphyritic rock. At a certain height, the metals precipitate from the ascending fluids.”

Sounds like ore is infinite. Sun burns out long before the mantle solidifies

Mayflower Sperg says:

The deposits form above the roof of a magma chamber that lies beneath an active volcano.

Then you have to wait millions of years for the volcano to become inactive, and for geological processes to push its magma chamber up to the surface. Ores and fossil fuels do get replenished, just not on human timescales.

Red says:

Volcanic activity has also been in decline for quite a while now reducing the amount of CO2 and other useful products of Volcanism.

Alfred says:

Do you think it’s the case that Plato’s Atlantis and the various other, seemingly unrelated legends of sunken lands are also memories of this collapse? I believe the Mahabarata references an “Atala, the White Island” and indicates it is somewhere in the Atlantic.

jim says:

There are a lot of indicators, one of which is that Sumerian is a language isolate. In the great flood, a whole lot of islands went under, and they still are under.

ten says:

The mentioned weed hippie kook randall carson has a very extensive idea on the azores being the mountaintops of Atlantis, which i support. It was widely regarded as so prior to being besmirched by nazi enthusiasm. Then, according to 1950’s understanding of plate tectonics, it was decided that the necessary downward movement of the central atlantic ridge of more than a mile was not possible, so the azores could not be the mountaintops of atlantis.

Carson seems to want to take a few extra steps to mindcrystal UFO atlantic aryans, but holds it in. He has a 10 hour youtube series arguing the evidence and theory for why this tectonic shift was indeed possible (short story – remove large weight from northern thick and stiff plate region, great elevation, thin ocean floor southern plate region, great delevation, further excacerbated the pressure from a mile of water), and some evidence that the deep sea bed was above water until the YDE.

If you have a great block of ice on one end of those floppy plastic foam water sheets, the other end sticks up. Atlantis was there, and sunk very deep very rapidly.

One might also leap to some conclusions concerning similar pre YDE stone technology in north africa and north america, like island hopping canoe men spanning the entire atlantic. We wuz indians n shiiiet.

jim says:

The waters rose about a hundred meters in the great flood, now euphemistically called the Younger Dryas event. Atlantis was assorted low lying islands not very far offshore, in canoe range Smallish islands with the population living on in permanent settlements on trade, fishing, and crabbing in the estuaries. If we looked in the right places, we might find some big permanent stone fish traps, indicating of stable settlements of reasonable size.

Cloudswrest says:

Nuclear neg at the Biden administration! Re. Brittney Griner.

Elon Musk says “If there are people in jail in America for the same stuff, shouldn’t we free them too?”

Mayflower Sperg says:

That’s an accelerationist position, because it sends the message that being excessively left-wing carries no risk. We might as well join NAMBLA and diddle little boys now, because in a few years the Supreme Court will declare man-boy love a Constitutional right and set us free!

The only way to break leftists out of this mindset is to wage a civil war against them and immediately execute any that you capture. The holiness spiral won’t stop until it’s safer to be too far right than too far left.

Fidelis says:

Points of contention:

* Women are unreliable even if you’re the highest level of ALFA MALE most anyone can reach.

* This still doesn’t mean having them raise your kids alone is a good idea. Even if you increase the number of children you have overall.

Synthesis:

* For fuck-the-GAE reasons you should make yourself immune to asset seizure regardless, but especially to prevent wifey having financial leverage over you.

* You should maintain a wife for child rearing purposes.

* When wifey gets too old to have more children, assuming she is still constantly shit testing you and giving you trouble i.e. you have “turned the other cheek” and “walked the extra mile” and still find yourself putting in tremendous energy to maintain cooperate/cooperate, you should dump her and find a younger model to continue having children with.

alf says:

When wifey gets too old to have more children, assuming she is still constantly shit testing you and giving you trouble

Maybe? Yeah? I dunno. Maybe my woman is a unicorn, but I actually enjoy my time with her. Been together for near a decade now, if anything our relationship is stronger. I feel like we are in coop/coop equillibrium, like how it’s meant to be. I couldn’t imagine leaving her.

Again, maybe she is somewhat of a unicorn. She is a good woman, and good women are rare these days.

But evenso, I can’t imagine any woman constantly shit-testing me after ten plus years of relationship. I literally can’t. I’d whack the shit out of her. It’s just not the kind of behavior I put up with.

Neofugue says:

> But evenso, I can’t imagine any woman constantly shit-testing me after ten plus years of relationship. I literally can’t. I’d whack the shit out of her. It’s just not the kind of behavior I put up with.

And you won’t have to, not because your wife is a unicorn, rather because you are not willing to tolerate misbehavior.

Fidelis is blackpilled because he hasn’t internalized one of Jim’s key red pills, that a man can have a cooperate-cooperate relationship with a woman by taking the law into his own hands.

Just as if a society wants a bank it must criminalize bank robbery, if a man wants a loyal wife he must “criminalize” misbehavior. The result is not that she becomes afraid of you, the result is that she respects you in much the same way people respect the bank.

Fidelis says:

Jim says he still continues to get shit tests. You can probably prevent the worst types of misbehavior, but it requires in many cases a constant expenditure of energy. Why deal with that when you can get a younger woman. Indeed, many high status high agency men do exactly this.

jim says:

Many an emperor with ten thousand concubines and unquestioned authority to execute any of them or all of them for any reason or no reason at all has had terrible women troubles, and many an empire has died of woman troubles.

There is no rest for any man. We are always on stage, and must always perform. Which requires that you pay no attention to the laws that forbid the performance.

Neurotoxin says:

“There is no rest for any man. We are always on stage, and must always perform.”

It sounds exhausting when you put it like this. While it’s true that we’re always having to perform, it’s also true that Game gives you a cheat sheet for the performance. I find it genuinely fun more often than not. It’s like playing a video game where you have the cheat codes. Except that gets boring fast; somehow, passing shit tests doesn’t.

Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

‘A hard game you are good at’ is a good way of framing it. In objective terms of difficult task, but with mastery, also a pleasurable experience.

Neurotoxin says:

‘A hard game you are good at’ is a good way of framing it.

That works.

jim says:

> It sounds exhausting when you put it like this.

I put it like this because of all the purple pillers, blue pillers, and enemy shills going “NAWALT – you only have to pass shit tests because you are a bad man who would up with a bad lower class trailer trash woman. You should have waited for a unicorn to appear. High status women, like lawyerettes, are all unicorns.”

Not to mention all the namefag PUA scammers who will tell you it is totally easy to pass shit tests without doing anything illegal, or even anything that would raise an eyebrow at a woman’s rights seminar.

The PUA movement died because the namefag advice was getting more and more heavily censored. The mating dance is flat out illegal, and has long been absent from western media and romance. And then it started being absent from PUA forums.

Because Heartiste was not a namefag, he carried on when everything else dried up, but, like all PUAs, he suffered burnout in the end.

PUA burnout happens when you realize consciously or subconsciously, that in the game of players and bitches, everyone loses, but the hot chicks are winning for as long as they remain hot, while even the most successful PUA is a loser. Our telos is to own women, their telos is to be owned, but in the game of players and bitches “She was never yours, it was just your turn”.

Neurotoxin says:

I put it like this because of all the purple pillers, blue pillers, and enemy shills going “NAWALT – you only have to pass shit tests because you are a bad man who would up with a bad lower class trailer trash woman.

“Men” like that are great – they make it so much easier for the rest of us, because we look studlier by comparison. They are also spewing toxins into the cultural air, but whatayagonnado?

bigtitties5000 says:

“There is no rest for any man. We are always on stage, and must always perform.”

boohoo :’)

Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

Bluepilled men are always looking for the mythical Feminine Niceness that culture assures them comes from the ‘fairer sex’; and constantly find themselves incomprehensibly appalled by the sheer levels of callous heartlessness and thoughtless disregard they get instead.

i says:

That’s the problem with having too many wives and concubines. The Emperor doesn’t even get to know the names and personalities of those 1000’s of concubines. Let alone take them into his marital bed.

Even a pro-polygamist must see that the number of wives that even an Emperor could have must be well below the dunbar no. of 150.

That and the existence of a Eunuch class to deal with this harem. With its own attendant problems.

Redbible says:

Jim’s point is that even someone crazy powerful enough to have 1000 wives/concubines will still have to deal with shit tests from his women.

But on the polygyny point, King David in the bible is known to have had 8 wives, and speculated to have had as many as 12. It seems to me that this is the roughly the sane limit to how many women a single man should own in a polygyny system. (polygyny being that a man can marry more than 1 woman, but that a woman can one be with one man.)

Any system that does not ensure that every productive man gets a wife, will end in ruin. (Which is why polygyny systems that push that a man MUST have more than 1 wife have problems.) If every productive man gets a wife, then there shouldn’t be a problem if some men have a few more wives.

Cloudswrest says:

Years ago I happened to catch an episode in passing of the reality TV show “Sister Wives” where some Mormon dude had four wives. Based on the glimpse I saw from that episode I concluded if you have more than one wife, they have to be KEPT APART!!! Otherwise they conspire together against the man, and at best, treat him like their pet mule, or draft animal.

alf says:

And I too still get shit tests. Part of the deal. Would not say they require a constant expenditure of energy. More of a low simmering vigilance. It’s more work than maintaining a car, but less than maintaining a vegetable garden. If there is not a good ratio between value gained and energy expended, something is wrong.

skippy says:

After you pass a lot of them they get easier and more playful and generally she helps you pass them. Women aren’t really all that bad once they’re under control. Men who hate women have never been loved by a woman. The problem is getting them to that stage.

Fidelis says:

> In any case, each one of you should love his wife as
himself, and the wife should respect her husband.
> the wife should respect her husband.

Saint Paul is pretty explicit in that the husband loves and the wife obeys. Not mutual love.

Women love dark triad antisocial losers. Are you a dark triad antisocial loser or just good at acting like one?

Kunning Drueger says:

*American women in current era. Picture a time where the current American Female Clade is described and discussed with horror and incomprehension by both sexes. It’s probably not that far off. Ironically, the term Toxic is quite appropriate, and in a much more metaphorically holistic way than their overuse of it.

skippy says:

Lots of dark triad winners. Stalin?

Male hierarchy goes:

Low agency office plankton
High agency losers
High agency winners

Women arent wrong about this

jim says:

Observed behavior is that women are frequently very badly wrong, and their judgments extremely easy to manipulate.

skippy says:

There are good men who do not have dark triad traits, I was commenting on the implication that all dark triad men are losers. Some of them are. Also, it isn’t always bad for a bit of high agency loser to work its way up into too-compliant middle class drone families.

alf says:

Every Jimian Christian is dark triad. Just yesterday my woman was listening to a podcast on psychopaths. ‘That’s such bull’, I told her. ‘No such thing as a psychopath, because if there was, I’d be one.’ She did not believe me. So I continued: ‘I believe there ‘s plenty of people who deserve a bullet in the head. I’d gladly deliver the bullet, would not lose a night’s sleep.’
‘- easy to say from a distance.’
‘I know myself.’
‘- but the difference is a psychopath would do it to undeserving people.’
‘you don’t think a psychopath would imagine the duped person deserved his faith?’

That ended the conversation.

Karl says:

Well done, but what a man can say to his women is differt from what he can say to colleagues or aquaintances. Jim once told us not to use enemy words because we will be missunderstood. Usefull advice, but difficult unless I can present a different word.

If I encounter such enemy words I usually say something like “the word psychopath was inventented by pussies to demean men who are able deal with lethal force”. It works best if I can also give a precise old word to replace the new word. No idea what would be a good word to replace “psychopath”.

Concepts are used to understand the world, and communicate that understanding. Anticoncepts are used to prevent understanding of the world.

jim says:

> what would be a good word to replace “psychopath”.

No word should replace a word for an anticoncept.

If you want a word for calm in the face of pain or danger, unbending determination in the face of threats: “courage”. If you want a word for malice, lies, and treachery, “evil”. Why would you want one word that stands for both?

The purpose of an anticoncept is to prevent thought and stop unapproved speech.

alf says:

No idea what would be a good word to replace “psychopath”.

It’s a conflation of several terms, among them ‘man’, ‘criminal’, ‘alpha’, ‘badboy’ and ‘charmer’.

Fidelis says:

Out of touch with reality. Conflating the overuse and abuse of a term with the idea that ‘no it ever really existed’.

Psychopaths are easily identified as children by their propensity for torturing small animals and children weaker than them. “No no no that’s a good thi–” whatever nigger.

If you genuinely believe psychopathic traits such as megalomania and lack of empathy, including for your followers, is good in a leader, I wish for you to have to serve under one. It’s normal traits taken to pathological extremes and it is not a good thing. Any healthy hierarchy would suss out those beyond a certain threshold.

jim says:

> Psychopaths are easily identified as children by their propensity for torturing small animals and children weaker than them.

Bullshit

Psychopathy is a cluster of traits that the state wants to demonize, with unrelated or opposed traits that are actually demonic like torturing small children. And it is the traits that the state wants to demonize, like being impassive in response to threats, that are the diagnostic criteria, not the traits that actually are demonic.

alf says:

Empathy, now there’s another term with a suspicious history.

What does it mean to be empathic?

Does it mean to be able to place yourself in another’s shoes? I am fairly good at that. So I am a very empathic person?

Presumably I would be told that I also have to be a caring person. I care very much about people close to me, do not care so much about strangers, and I hate my enemies. So perhaps I am not so empathic.

But then, who is empathic? Is it these mysterious women who are both understanding and caring? Guess what — I have never met a single woman who fully understood me, much less a woman who was capable of understanding me. My own woman comes closest, but even her eyes glaze over if I talk Jim’s blog too long. Women are caring, but not understanding.

In fact, watch these same ”’empathic”’ women turn the coldest shoulder when an incel ask them the time of day. Anti-concept.

alf says:

Psychopaths are easily identified as children by their propensity for torturing small animals and children weaker than them.

I don’t buy it.

Bullying is natural. Don’t know about the animal torture.

Kunning Druegger says:

The animal torture thing is a direct pull from the famed predicate psycho Ed Kemper (the study of this man is literally the template for everything that followed in the Serial Killer era) as he was fascinated with torturing and killing small animals as a proxy for people he disliked. He graduated to killing his grandparents, spent a few years in an “asylum” (a fun retreat wherein cat ladies and faggots gave him all the attention he felt he deserved), came out, and proceeded to give a bunch of cock-cruisers exactly what they were looking for. Kemper is fascinating to anyone interested in personality in extremis, but he is a sacred being to the death worshipping progressive pseudo-scientists.

But that is a cover for the real reason “torture of animals” is seen to be and forever deployed as some kind of highly accurate indicator. Boys growing up healthy in a rural/exurb area regularly kill small animals, skin and butcher the bodies, and hang up the pelts or cook the meat. Hunting as pastime and practice is a talisman for the bugman, the urban sodomite, the pinkneck wannabe, the college cuck, as a way of relegating all males of courage, determination, and skill as psyco-/sociopaths. They pretend they’re talking about Kemper, but the payload is basically “anyone capable of hunting, skinning, and processing prey is a defacto psychopath. Honestly, it’s pretty fucking gay, and you should be wary of anyone who throws that out there. Maybe they’re ignorant, and maybe they’re malicious, but either way they’re misinformed.

The Cominator says:

Believe it or not Alf (despite my strong view on the Final Helicopter Ride of the progressives) I have virtually no dark triad traits.

And I strongly agree that anyone caught sadistically torturing animals to death should be offered

1) An immediate lifetime role in combat arms

2) Death

Fidelis is right here, virtually every school shooter and serial killer has a history of torturing animals to death almost without exception.

jim says:

Do they?

The archetype of serial killers is the Green River killer. I am unaware that he had any history of torturing animals.

Obviously there is likely to be correlation between torturing people and torturing animals. But these people simply do not show the defining and distinctive characteristics of psychopathy, they do not show the characteristics of psychopathy that anyone actually cares about.

Demonic traits correlate with demonic behavior. “Psychopathic” traits correlate with being a good friend, a reliable ally, and a willingness to help people and creatures in trouble.

The Cominator says:

Your animal torturers and school shooters do not cook the meat or eat the animals and they don’t do it as a result of hunting with their fathers, they like torturing animals because to them its fun.

Kunning Druegger says:

Claro qu si, TC, but if you show a normie a video of a kid hunting and dressing the kill, I guarantee you will hear many comments like “lol serial killer material lolol” and “omg that’s so twisted, how could anyone do that, thoughts and vibes for Peter Rabbit.”

There are definitely twisted and broken individuals out there. There are also healthy black families with good fathers. Modern psychology is not a science, or even a proto-science, but rather a religious structure, and it uses dogma and propaganda to spread Cathedral memes. Serial Killer fetishization is one of their favorite methods. Netflix has this down to a “science,” and American females love watching that flavor of tripe.

The net effect of the Serial Killer meme is to make courage, determination, and competence negative traits to be eschewed, and it seems to be working.

Fidelis says:

Torturing is not bullying. Yes, the boundary may be cloudy in some cases, but not all, and I am not referring to boundary cases here.

In this case I am using empathy to refer to a general trait of emotional mirroring. When a healthy person inflicts pain, or joy, on another being, their brain will model that feeling and they will experience an internal echo of such. This is a variable trait, more expressed in some than others. Can have excessive mirroring which is unhealthy, or have too far diminished mirroring which is the subject at hand.

When you combine excessive narcissism, again a spectrum trait with unhealthy values on both ends, with a very reduced empathetic affect, you get psycopathy. They will torture others to feel a sense of power, because they do not involuntarily mirror internally the effects of the sadism on the victim, and they further obtain a sense of pleasure from exercising power of any kind, and torture is particularly potent a sense of power.

These types need extremely strong social conditioning, or killing.

alf says:

In this case I am using empathy to refer to a general trait of emotional mirroring

On the opposite end of social mirroring isn’t psychopathy, it’s social retardation. If you can’t read a room, you can’t get other people to do what you want.

When you combine excessive narcissism, again a spectrum trait with unhealthy values on both ends, with a very reduced empathetic affect, you get psycopathy. They will torture others to feel a sense of power, because they do not involuntarily mirror internally the effects of the sadism on the victim, and they further obtain a sense of pleasure from exercising power of any kind, and torture is particularly potent a sense of power.

Psycho-astrology. People who hate life enjoy inflicting their pain upon others. That is all there is to it.

All this talk is meant to create a mystery class of men, whose motives we could never hope to understand, who are machiavellian and scheme in the dark.

Nope, just men doing men stuff.

The Cominator says:

There is sympathy and empathy.

Sympathy is caring about others which I have enough of to not want to say torture small animals.

Empathy is understanding other people which I’m a retard at.

The men others would call psychopaths can understand other people they just don’t care and in some cases enjoy their suffering. Sadistic psychopaths IMHO should be marked (everyone should know who and what they are and know not to trust them… but in dangerous duties they can be useful) and put into frontline combat jobs or killed.

alf says:

Then why will every psychologist tell you that psychopaths are low in empathy?

The Cominator says:

Don’t know, but high functioning psychopaths can read and understand people just fine unlike spergs.

They just don’t care unless caring serves their purpose.

jim says:

> Don’t know, but high functioning psychopaths can read and understand people just fine unlike spergs.

You read the shrinks and believe.

They lie. It is just not true. They like because they hate you and intend to harm you.

alf says:

I do: because they are not words meant to cut reality at the joints. They are meant to obfuscate. So it is perfectly fine if your definition of empathy is the exact opposite of Fidelis. Working as intended.

Jim is absolutely correct: to remain unflinching in the face of danger requires courage. Criminals tend to be cowards; the mafia resembles goodfellas, not Godfather. Psychopathy is an attempt to steal away valor from good men and give it to bad men.

The Cominator says:

https://www.ranker.com/list/serial-killers-who-hurt-animals/ranker-crime

If the green river killer didn’t also torture animals he would be the exception not the rule. Apparently not all serial killers do it… but most do.

Ghost says:

Recently it was posted that the ability to inflict organized violence is how political groups push their agenda. Then afterwards posted that the group is not in that position.

The people running things cannot be reasoned with. They scoff at anyone trying to use logic or morality. It’s a big joke to these people. They laugh at human misery. At vile corruption and perversion.

A people like this can only understand force. They are beyond caring.

The Cominator says:

I’m sure there is all sorts of bullshit in headshrinkery and its not a hard science but at least before the age of poz I do not think it was all lies.

I’ve met people who fit the psychopath descriptions and people who correspond to the cluster b scripts.

jim says:

I have not. There are no psychopaths, none.

You admit to being terribly at reading people.

I think I am very good at reading people.

Your language reveals you are reading from shrink books intended to demonize manly men and the warrior personality, not speaking from life. Those books will guarantee you will fail with women. They hate their readers and want them to fail. You are succumbing to the influence of evil people who hate you, hate everyone, and intend you harm.

There are bad men and good men. There are brave men and weak men. Brave men tend to be good men, though far from always. There is no special type of brave bad men. The particular characteristic that “Psychopath” is intended to demonize is to imperturbability, an impassive face, and tight focus under threat, pressure, pain, or danger, which correlates very strongly both with virtue and courage

Red says:

If the green river killer didn’t also torture animals he would be the exception not the rule. Apparently not all serial killers do it… but most do.

The only kids I knew who where mean or tortured animals pasted of the age of 6(kids will naturally be assholes) where raised by single mothers. What your probably describing is a common trait of bastards where they’re fathers don’t tell them to knock off abusing animals.

Fidelis says:

You guys are overresponding to enemy redefinition. This is a failure mode, see: https://media3.giphy.com/media/eunDUhLbOz1vEZfFXl/giphy.webp?cid=6c09b95219ebf4a6447d783a406941f77c83adbbe5a91a73&rid=giphy.webp&ct=g

Lets make this as semantically clear as possible by throwing away terms.

There is a human trait $FOO. $FOO is the aspect of involuntary emotional mirroring when interacting with another being. Those high in $FOO actually experience suffering internally when inflicting suffering on others (to greater or lesser extent based on context. You will feel more $FOO towards friends than enemies). They as well experience joy when giving others joy. This mirroring is largely involuntary, though some conditioning can be done to dampen or enhance $FOO.

There is another human trait $BAR. Those high in $BAR place very high importance on how they and others percieve them. Those high in $BAR are very sensitive to status and hierarchy, and experience greater highs and lows from exercising power and having power exercised over them.

Now, both $FOO and $BAR are on a spectrum, mostly orthogonal to each other. These traits have healthy ranges, and unhealthy ranges.

Those too high in $FOO may be unable to make themselves do necessary but unpleasant acts upon others, or become too subservient and pleasing at their own expense. Those very low in $FOO will have a tendency to be more malicious than necessary, and find it hard to understand why you should be generally amicable in interpersonal exchange.

Those too high in $BAR will be very grating to exist around. They will always be trying to exercise social dominance over you, regardless of context. This can lead to discohesion in group activity, as they favor their own status more than they favor group achievement. Those too low in $BAR will be too willing to give up status, to take bad deals, and to work for their own benefit.

No, there is a human type $FOOBAR that has very high $FOO and $BAR traits. This human type has a malicious streak ten miles wide. They not only will induce suffering to get ahead, they will induce suffering on their own group to get ahead, as their status is far more important to them than group achievement and they have no negative affect from the inflicting. When young, $FOOBAR individuals will have no way to act out superior status, as they are weak children, and so will engage in visiting sadism upon squirrels, rabbits and fish. As adults, they are destructive towards groups and individual well being both, and incredibly dangerous if intelligent.

jim says:

But the term you have defined, someone who is high in $FOO and high in $BAR, does not have the chief diagnostic characteristic of “psychopathy”: Calm in the face of danger, imperturbable in the face of threat, stubbornly resistant to attempted coercion. People who are like that, high in $FOO and high in $BAR are unlikely to be “psychopathic” – are apt to flee danger and submit to coercion. They are capable of terrible violence, like the imperturbable type, but the terrible violence of the imperturbable type is aimed at eliminating a threat or harm.

Kunning Druegger says:

Are $FOO and/or $BAR voluntary or involuntary? Can one express or suppress their $F or $B tendencies, or is it out of personal control? Can excessive or insufficient $F or $B be faked?

I think you’ve set up a pretty good structure for the discussion, but reality violates the discursive space; psychopathy is used as an insult or qualification for rejection far more often then a term applied after deep study. Narcissism is also like this. When some personality stays clear of The Discourse, they are driven, enigmatic, or singular. When the run afoul of the Consensus, they transmogrify into psycho-/sociopathic or narcissistic monsters that need to be shunned and reviled.

I am a humanities major and I actually love that field. I think Political Alchemy could become a science in a century or three, and anthropology could reveal stunning insights. But the whole School has been converged, and any value retained is incidental or accidental. So the Humanities-fags like myself and others here must shun the field, as it is all to to the greater evil in current year. I believe the same applies to psychology, which is unfortunate.

jim says:

> a term applied after deep study.

All deep studies of the term “Psychopath” are fraudulent, manipulative, and deceptive, lies intended to harm the reader. There is no baby in that bathwater. The term is as poisoned in its very roots as the terms “racist”, “pedophile”, or “sweatshop”. Like those, the term was created as a hostile act to manipulate and harm the reader.

The term “Pedophile” was consciously created for the purpose of normalizing faggots, and the term “psychopath” was consciously created as part of the attack on men, masculinity, and the mating dance.

The Cominator says:

Fidelis generally agree but i would say that caring about what others are feeling and understanding are seperate…

The FOOBAR often know their victims are feeling bad but they enjoy it.

The Cominator says:

Jim is it fair to say that what you object to about the psychopath category is that it lumps fearlessness and calmness under pressure together.

jim says:

That is pretty much the exact opposite of what I object to.

What I object to is that just as the term “Pedophile” was created solely for the purpose of denying that fags predate on children well below the age of puberty and that everyone who predates on children well below the age of puberty is a fag, the term “Psychopath” ws created solely for the purpose of demonizing men, masculinity, manliness and the male virtures, and in particular and especially to demonize men who are difficult and dangerous to coerce or intimidate.

The Cominator says:

Er i mean fearlessness and calmess with evil/immortality.

Wulfgar Thundercock III says:

No, the issue is that it lumps being a murdering asshole in with being brave and calm under pressure. I hit a whole lot of the psychopath and sociopath traits, but I do not go around killing random people for kicks. You could easily diagnose me with being a psychopath, but I have very little in common with the serial killers that people typically associate with the diagnosis. Which means it is a diagnosis that means very little.

Fidelis says:

>does not have the chief diagnostic characteristic of “psychopathy”

Not interested in what shrinks say. Rectifying names. $FOOBAR types are socially destructive, evil, and immensely attractive to women. That was my point that started this huge thread.

Kunning Druegger says:

>$FOOBAR types are socially destructive, evil, and immensely attractive to women

OK, so added to the list of driving, making decisions, holding political office, and leading is choosing what is attractive. Women are good at certain things, and other things they are terrible at. Choosing a mate in an unconstrained situation is not at all within their capacity. They need a constrained set of options, curated by Dad or the church or the mannerbund, and then they can make good choices.

Again, I think this whole issue stems from the liberation of women from patriarchy.

Adam says:

As men we have size, strength, agility, aggression and a more given to us to make our way in life. To use any of these for any reason other than to serve the needs of a woman, a child, a black, a Jew or other minority is going to be demonized by the cathedral.

Even the term antisocial is a loaded term. Prison inmates are considered antisocial, but there is a social order in prison.

The priesthood and the feminine imperative are at ofdd with men who are capable of making war. Warriors are their only threat to power.

But there is nothing inherently evil about war. Apes make war. Plenty of other animals make war. The big fish eats the little fish. Nothing evil in that.

The priesthood and the feminine imperative rule with deception. Their only weapon against the warrior is lies. There is quite a lot of evil in that.

When you look at things like school shootings, and serial killers, your looking at apex predators, warriors, who are sick due to worshiping the same demons, and believing the same lies that the priesthood spreads. School shootings are not common throughout history. They are common only now after several generations of cathedral rule.

All of the behavior used to demonize alpha males is observed in males exposed to a lifetime of cathedral lies. They made the villains, and use them to make more villains as a way to justify their own demonic faith.

not a reactionary says:

Related to the “killing animals” thing… my cousin once impaled a frog we had found under my grandmother’s house, then stuffed it into an empty dip can for fun. I don’t think he’s a “psychopath” or sociopath” or whatever, but he has been pretty successful with women.

The Cominator says:

“Impaled a frog for fun”

“Successful with women in clownworld”

While there is a lack of consensus about psychopaths I would say your cousin is almost 100% a psychopath.

The Cominator says:

“When you look at things like school shootings, and serial killers, your looking at apex predators, warriors, who are sick due to worshiping the same demons, and believing the same lies that the priesthood spreads. School shootings are not common throughout history. They are common only now after several generations of cathedral rule.”

School shootings are mostly glowniggery but the people they target to perpetrate these ops are always the lets say (since we can’t agree on psychopath) the morally insane people who have histories of killing animals. We are not talking about Leonidas and Audie Murphy here.

Its also rarely bullied kids and such, as bullied kids would be more likely to target specific personal enemies and not others. Hell in many cases its not students of the schools they shot up doing the school shootings.

Its some easily manipulated amoral psycho who wants to be famous or some unhinged psycho (like the tranny) who just wants to go out while inflicting as much pain as possible. They are in some sense fearless but there is no noble warrior about them and lets not say there is.

Neofugue says:

Every man, no matter how alpha, continues to get shit tests. However, having the right mindset will help you pass them, and they get easier over time.

Your safeguard against divorce rape is the hole in the swamp you dig for her, not leaving her for a younger woman when she gets old.

Mayflower Sperg says:

We shall not, and probably cannot, defeat niggers by evolving into niggers.

Neurotoxin says:

“…evolving…”

We are telling men with pro-social personality traits to bend their behavior toward the anti-social traits women are gut-level attracted to. The pro-social men’s genes aren’t changing.

At the margin, this is going to steal some wombs from the corner crack dealer and devote those wombs to cranking out the offspring of Jeff in Accounts Receivable. This is the exact opposite of evolving in a dysgenic way.

Mayflower Sperg says:

Except that your genes are changing because the sons who are most successful at carrying on your strategy will be the ones with the most anti-social genetics, and even they will struggle to do something that comes naturally to niggers, like a dog trying to catch mice.

Neurotoxin says:

Retarded.

Fidelis says:

I advocate for Total Nigger Death. I also advocate for people who are less amoral than I am to do the St Paul thing and either found or enter into a church focused on Old Testament social codes, with zero respect for officially unofficial state policy.

Preempting the argument: being piss terrified of Waco is not Christian behavior, for real believers to be martyred is a privilege. Someone who has real moral authority and life experience, someone who understands not just the red pill but the hearts of men and the nature of life here, needs to organize a church instead of only making internet comments.

jim says:

Go ahead.

Today is not the time for martyrdom. Martyrdom worked against a dead state religion. It is not going to work against live state religion.

The time for martyrdom may well come. It is not that time yet.

Fidelis says:

Then they have a group capable of collective violence and you have a comments section.

Me, I’m just hoping there’s enough desire for crypto in the parts of the world that survive GAE death. Will trade crypto for food and shelter. Look ma I’m a rapefugee now kek.

jim says:

> Then they have a group capable of collective violence

That group is called “the government”.

> and you have a comments section.

Obviously.

And to remedy that problem is coup complete.

Coups are coming. Caesar will find he needs a faith. We are available.

Fidelis says:

What historical cases are there? Augustus did not implement a new faith. Did Cromwell? Napolean? Hitler did, sort of. As did Lenin. Constantine… what did all three have? Oh yeah, a working group that had actually organized the faith as a coherent system to implement.

You just claimed the state faith is living, so who’s to say on Caesar. I expect tranny Lenin. Those eunuchoids are voracious.

jim says:

The model is restoration by General Monk and Charles the Second of the Old State religion.

Augustus did implement a new faith, thinly disguised as the old faith: Emperor worship. Did not work out.

After a considerable while, Constantine had a better idea.

Restorations are a good deal more common than Caesar instituting a new state religion, and our situation resembles that of Charles the first, where the old state religion, having been subverted by power hungry and increasingly postchristian fanatics, was restored by Charles the Second.

General Monk sent his troops around to “guard” parliament (whether they wanted to be guarded or not), and that was the real beginning of the Restoration.

At some point someone is going to send around some troops to “guard” key institutions, and those troops will get their cohesion from Christian nationalism, the faith of the old Republic having died under succession of ever more blatantly rigged elections, whereupon the state religion will in due course become old type Christianity – which is what we are selling.

This is what I see happening, and it is what our enemies fear.

Without free and fair elections, the elite has no means to resolve disputes within the elite except violence. Violence escalates, until it escalates all the way to soldiers. And soldiers need a faith to give the army cohesion. Tranny worship and nigger worship is not going over too well as a military faith. The military faith is the faith of old Republic, which our new and ever newer state religion is vigorously suppressing.

Mister Grumpus says:

Lenin’s people didn’t need their old faith to take over. Am I missing a key element or distinction?

jim says:

They had a new faith.

Mister Grumpus says:

And your perception is that this time, the new faith of Gaia, negro and tranny worship just isn’t going to cut it? Trigger pullers just can’t “into” it this time?

Vendat Tunicam says:

Mister Grumpus, the faith of Lenin allowed room for masculine men, it had tried to communally own women and found that it led to chaos and incohesion. If you were violent and capable of mouthing the doctrines of communism you were welcome to join.

Progressivism has such a mindless hatred of masculinity that it leaves no room for violent and capable men. The best trigger pullers in the progressive coalition are what Steve Sailer calls ex-men. And there just aren’t enough of them to create, let alone lead an army.

Our faith will win. Deus vult.

Kunning Druegger says:

Fidelis, what’s the difference between a mob of organized and armed redditors standing in front of you and a comment section?*

Dumb question. Better question: who is keeping the lights on and where is that being decided in a GAE general collapse? If I where an elite in power, I’d use electricity generation and data network access to draw in supporter citizens, as well as weaponize the benefits against my opponents. Dueling economy on a bifurcated scale is the best one could hope for, eMoney and “rocks.” More likely, it’ll be a different -coin in every zone with network sovereignty, because that would be necessary to control the currency you skim off of, right? There can only be one coin eventually, but in a multipolar world…

*and do you have Iskanders lol

Starman says:

@jim

”Today is not the time for martyrdom. Martyrdom worked against a dead state religion. It is not going to work against live state religion.”

Globohomo is not a live state religion. Globohomo got its ass kicked by an actual live religion (Islam) last year.

Kunning Druegger says:

GAE got a bloody nose in Kabul. It’s getting noogied by Russia right now, but I don’t think it has received a veritable ass kicking yet. This is a pedantic distinction, but I do feel it is relevant. I am liking these guys more and more:

https://identitydixie.com/2022/07/06/why-russia-will-defeat-the-united-states/

“Lacking any sense of the values that made the United States a powerful country, the chief decision makers of modern American politics now seek an attempt to finally kill off that which stands in their way. They need to turn a nation-state into an ideological one. They are mostly there. White resolve is getting attacked throughout the West – but it is not dead. Still, while ideologues go to war against nationalist citizens, Russia patiently waits – growing stronger and more nationalistic. The Russians know all they need to do to defeat the United States is take out one aircraft carrier to win a war against an effeminate electorate. The sight of body bags is a time-tested means of collapsing American political will. Black politicians will not vote to continue any war that may place black boys in harm’s way for George Washington, the slave-holder’s country. Female politicians will not continue any war whereby they must endure calls from distraught mothers. Meanwhile, White citizens will not support a war on behalf of a country that has now defined them as an enemy class, even if White male politicians vote to continue hostilities. As you can see, the United States lost before the Russians won.”

While I don’t think we’ve seen the GAE get its ass kicked yet, I don’t think that moment is too far off. For it to be a true ass kicking, we should be able to specifically point out a capability, or assumption of a capability, that existed before the whupping that is now gone. ID’s example of a “sunk aircraft carrier” seems like the higher end of things, but the lower end, like SOF or marines being captured or an embassy being taken over, would also qualify. It may also be the case that an ass kicking isn’t even required after Kabul and Kiev, as the mere possibility of an ass kicking unmans the USM and we see some kind of protest, strike, or other “activist direct action” from the ranks themselves. Honestly, I am a bit surprised it hasn’t happened already. The sodomite/female/nog saturation is perilously high. If explicit evidence of refusal of orders on social justice grounds comes out, then I think we will have skipped over Asskicking and moved straight into systemic collapse of the USM.

Kunning Druegger says:

I’m glad you made this post. if you’re a shill, I guess I’m duped. While I chose to live differently, I can’t find fault with this theoretical approach.

I have made a commitment to “for better or worse, forever.” Maybe I’ll regret it in the long run, or maybe not. God will do with me what he wills, it is up to me to fill in the interim period. I am too early on to say I have a unicorn, but getting close to a decade, and I am super thankful for the woman God provided.

Kunning Druegger says:

I really want to like the guy for being right about so many conspiracies, but…

https://stormer-daily.rw/freealexjones-sandyhoax-thejuiceisloose-crisisactors-aj-only-ordered-to-pay-4-2-million/

St. Anglin thinks that AJ got off the hook basically, when you look at what could have happened. Are they letting him slip through because he’s Controlled Opposition, or is it the Woke Memeplex beginning to breakdown? The judge in the case is ridiculously woke, just google pictures of xer.

Plague Rat says:

He was ordered to pay another $49 million in punitive damages.

Red says:

Couple of different ideas about what’s going on:

AJ is Controlled Opposition but they’re kind of at the point where they can’t accept any sort of opposition. People like AJ and others are going to start getting purged.

Or they’re punishing AJ to make an example of what happens to you when you believe conspiracy theories. The time between a conspiracy theory and conspiracy fact is down to 6 months these days. Using people like AJ to discredit conspiracy theories is no longer very effective with that short of a time delay.

Kunning Druegger says:

Here’s a good tool for linking to evil places: archive.ph

Just ctrl-c/v the link into the first search bar and hit the button. Watch the magical codey wodey, or click back in a few minutes and the url at top will look like this:

https://archive.ph/kitVw

Viola. A nice static page that deprives the (((media))) of clicks and shekels.

jim says:

Bigger white pill.

His wife is 27 years his junior. My wife is 37 years my junior, and no one blinks. There is a whole lot of this going around, people are supposed to be shocked, or at least surprised, and they are not only not shocked, they are not even surprised. I have dated over a larger age gap, and nobody blinked then either.

Things are tough, and they have been getting tougher, but the will to overcome all obstacles in order to reproduced is irrepressible and can vanquish all obstacles.

Kunning Druegger says:

MacGregor, Douglas A.
Born: 04 January 1953 in Philadelphia PA
Education: William Penn Charter School (Quaker institution), Virginia Military Institute, West Point Military Academy (B.S. General Engineering), University of Virginia (Ph.D. International Relations)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douglas_Macgregor

We are all familiar (or should be at this point) with the based Colonel, but while passively listening to some random video interview [1], I heard the madlad say this:

“The second thing that had a big impact on me was being an exchange student in Germany from 1969 to 1970. I went to a very fine Quaker men’s private school… I was raised as a Quaker, believe it or not… and I applied for, competed for a spot top study in Germany, and the American Friends Services Committee sent me to Northern Germany, to a town called [Brunswick], and I ended up living with a family who, the father of which had been an officer in the Wehrmacht, and had actually served in the German Army from about 1931 until 1945. He had seen a lot of action, he was a Combat Engineer. Typical for the officer class, very well educated. His hobby was Greek, Latin, Hebrew, and biblical texts; he was very interested in archeology, and so forth. He had a big impact because he eventually discovered that I was not going to reproach him for being an evil Nazi, I just wanted to know about him, and his experiences in the military. And then he began to teach me a great deal…”

Hello, based department? Can you connect me to the ultra-based division? No, I won’t hold, you supercilious faggot…

“An awful lot of what happens in 1990 and 1991, when I had the opprotunity to sort of mold the 2nd Squadron, 2nd Cavalry for action, these 1100 men… 42 tanks, 42 Bradleys, 8 guns… and then subsequently, what I’m able to do with the 1st of the 4th Cavalry after the war from 1992 to 1994, really reflected that German influence. because the Germans were very big on simplicity, big on what I would call orders from the saddle… in other words, discarding these detailed written orders in favor of a highly trained, battle drill oriented force… to the point where the battle drills were automatic, and tyhen you would improvise based on the existing battle drill to deal with what you encountered, which you knew was always going to be a little different from what you originally intended or anticipated. And then, the idea that you had to be at the front… I had to fight very hard to be in a tank. The reason i wanted to be in a tank is that it was simply faster to move in that, and there was nothing that you could not do, and if you had to fight to influence the battle, you could have a profound impact with just one tank.”

Has anyone just asked this guy if he would like to be King of America?

[1] https://youtu.be/3eJk0svHzOo

Anon says:

Anyone know of a good substack/blog that follow the Russian war
Everyone I read is cathedral propaganda scream “Russia is losing nonstop”

Also Amnesty International report was surprising as it accused the UKi of using civilian as military shield, there is seem to be fractures in the cathedral
About the war.

jim says:

Al Jazeera plays it pretty much down the middle. Indian news sources are pretty neutral on the facts, theoretically supporting Ukraine, but not cooking the news excessively.

someDude says:

Indian news sources may be theoretically supporting Ukraine, but they don’t seem to Like Zelensky a whole lot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eM72TWJHSsU

Varna says:

https://t.me/s/specoper
Pro-rus feed, need online translate

Rus military review bigger scope
https://t.me/topwar_official

Gedeon says:

Telegram channels are what you seek. The realwarreport is the most balanced, “intel slava z” is pro-Russia and wartime13 is a new one I am watching but cannot render any further appraisal of.

FWIW, Russia has already lost the original mission when they had to retreat from Kiev, but they have not lost the war. They shifted from special mission and taking control of symbolic targets to turning whole cities into rubble as they did with the Chechens and Grozny. It’s also worth considering that the war in Ukraine is not about taking land as much as tying up and depleting NATO and Russian military hardware, mutually. Remember, the TGR, WEF and UN are about consolidating global centralized government and are openly opposed to recognizing national sovereignty.

It is a non-zero possibility that NATO was the vehicle to draw the Pentagon into war with Russia, something that was denied under MAGA administration. Even when the MAGA coalition returns to power, they will have to restore order to the military hierarchy, something that was deeply subverted during Trump’s tenure, as well as replenish the armories.

Wulfgar Thundercock III says:

This is more support for my contention that the US has preemptively lost the next war against a hard target. NATO has poured arms and money into Ukraine and the Russians are still winning and depleting the arms stocks of the GAE. Multiple countries have reported having to cancel exercises or training due to lack of equipment. The GAE’s combination of economy and style of warfare cannot keep pace with the Russian counterpart. Logistics is the most important part of warfare and it is where the US is failing the hardest, especially when it comes to the US imperial core gutting its economy and manufacturing.

Red says:

Most of the weapons systems the US sent to the Ukraine are obsolete in the face informational warfare. Getting rid of them won’t be a huge loss as long as the US replaces them with informational warfare tier weapons. Which we might find very difficult to do if chips shipments from Taiwan are suddenly unable to reach the US.

>Multiple countries have reported having to cancel exercises or training due to lack of equipment.

NATO as a military alliance is a joke. Only the French and the Turks have any semblance of a real modern military. Oh no the fake German military can’t do fake trainings.

Wulfgar Thundercock III says:

The semi-autonomous launchers like the Javelin are IEW weapons, and they are running low on those. My point is that NATO is a joke. The lack of military is secondary to a lack of logistics and morale, which are both a result of the priesthood taking over every facet of life. Strategy, tactics, and all the weapons and men in the world will not do you any good if you cannot get the weapons to the men or the men to care enough to fight.

Amateurs study strategy, masters study logistics. My read of the GAE/NATO logistical train is that it is in terrible shape. That precedes defeat, unless they can face reality and turn it around. As facing reality is sexist, racist, fascist, homophobic, and especially transphobic, I doubt it will happen in time.

Red says:

And my point is the tyrannies and women training with those weapons are not capable of fighting with them. The reason the Russians initially failed was Azov. Not the new weapons the US sent, it was Azov willingness to charge in and resist at the airport next to Kiev.

>Amateurs study strategy, masters study logistics.

Logistics is part of strategy. You’re confusing tactics and strategy.

The US being out of extra war gear hardly matters because Russia isn’t invading the west and has no way to interdict items needed for weapons production. China on the other hand… could cut off components necessary for informational warfare level weapons.

Wulfgar Thundercock III says:

Logistics is absolutely its own field. It has massive impacts on strategy, but it should be considered a separate field.

I do not think we disagree beyond specifics, but I will point out that my point was that the next major war that GAE/NATO finds itself in is going to be a disaster not because they sent weapons to Ukraine, but what the weapons deliveries revealed. This is not the war to reveal the man empire’s naked ass. The next one will be.

GAE is not developing IEW arms and tactics, not working on hypersonic missile systems, and is more being prevented from interfering too much with space development than actually exploiting it. They are having difficulty supplying a relatively small force with weapons that have been developed, tested, and tooled up. Regardless of the quality of the current weapons they possess or the ability of their uniformed thugs to use them, these problems demonstrate severe logistical failures. Logistical failures which, if unaddressed, will result in a humiliating defeat.

Don Harrington says:

What’s your take on the impact of palletized vs manual logistics in this case?

Wulfgar Thundercock III says:

I do not think it matters, except that if your society is capable of more organization, its logistics are going to be more efficient. I would expect that IEW logistics are going to take after IEW warfare, in that they will differ in the execution, but the end result is the application of warheads on foreheads. Better social organization results in better logistical capability, which in turn feeds into more ability to prosecute wars and achieve military and political objectives.

Perhaps you get Amazon Combat, where Amazon corporate and a network of contractors drop ships you your equipment and ammo by renting warehouse space near a conflict zone and running guns to the belligerents. Then you have Amazon Combat Prime, where they have orbital supply caches and ballistic missile delivery systems to combat drop your purchases to a point you indicate. Maybe you rent time on some Meteor Rain orbital artillery sattelites, a company run by Elon Musk alongside SpaceX and Starlink.

Kunning Drueger says:

Implicit in Gedeon’s statement is the idea that the RF is coordinating with NATO. On its face, these seems retarded.

Neurotoxin says:

Note the mainstream media’s phrases like

“Russia’s advances are slowing,” which, stripped of its propagandistic overtones, has factual content of “Russia is advancing.”

“Russia’s advances are a costly grind/long hard slog/quagmire,” which simply means “Russia is advancing.”

“Russia advances in Ukraine come at a devastating cost,” which simply means “Russia is advancing.”

“Experts predict that any day now, aaaaaaannnnnnnny day now, Russia will suffer a devastating defeat in Ukraine,” which means (1) “Russia is advancing” and (2) “We think you’re so fucking stupid that you don’t remember that we’ve been saying this since February.”

Adjudicator says:

The YouTube Channel of the Austrian Armed Forces is a reliable and militarily professional source of what is really going on in Ukraine.

Link to his playlist:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL6Udnt8OH5-tuFBuYigic6mYE6_TfCqV7

Note that even though much of the videos is in German, the channel has made the effort to have some of the more pertinent ones done English.

From what I can tell, I note they publish the information after verifying it to the best of their ability, and present the information directly as it is with no embellishments or ulterior motives.

This video presented by Colonel Markus Reisner is the most recent one from 8 July 2022

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEbLuAPobao&list=PL6Udnt8OH5-tuFBuYigic6mYE6_TfCqV7&index=18

After his presentation, he explained that the production of the videos and reports are done as unbiased and neutral as they can.

I liked his lines: ” Why is this important? Because only a neutral view about the situation, especially on the battlefield, can give you a clear impression of what’s going on in the field.”

It must be difficult for him to prepare and present the videos as some of his Ukrainian comrades from his previous exchange programs were casualties from the conflict.

The only flaw is that their update cycle on the Ukraine Conflict is quite slow – Once every two weeks or once every month on average for an update.

Kunning Druegger says:

I’ve written before about the necessity of “parallelism,” or the idea of building and maintaining institutions in parallel to what is in place. This is not novel, and many are doing some piece of the whole puzzle.

Jim, how do regular Jimian Christians go about separating themselves safely from the status quo? Which organizations and services and professions are on the whitelist? How should we go about building the Shadow Society?

jim says:

I wish I had the answers.

Gab groups was intended as a place for building alternative societies online, and their Christian groups keep falling under the dominion of “Hail fellow Christian, I am more Christian than thou” types, who quite obviously hate Christ, hate Christianity, and hate and despise Christians. It is not that they are red pilled or blue pilled, right wing or left wing. It is that they really do not like Christians and Christianity full stop, viewing even completely converged groomer nigger Christianity as a competing hostile faith.

Anything overground comes under attack. Observe that not only Andrew Anglin deep underground with deep underground finances, Archbishop Vigano is deep underground with deep underground finances. No namefag can speak the truth in public, and if he does so, he will be destroyed.

Any counter institutions have to be as heavily armored as myself, Vigano, Anglin, and the rest, and it is a lot harder to armor a group structured for collective action, than it is for an individual to armor up. Working on tools to support this. Much work remains to be done.

The key element required is to run communications and network services over a distributed name system based on zooko names, rather ca.

I have the code for encryption and stuff running, the networking part is not yet even fully designed. Basically we have to replace the CA system and hosts file for networking, and replace TCP. The problem is that our infrastructure was designed for friendlier times, and is incapable of resisting insider attack by central authority.

Wireguard shows the way for the future. Good people, good design, but designed to solve one small part of the problem, and interface with a broken system that remains broken.

Gedeon says:

Dial up modem

A2 says:

A few years ago, I designed a private DNS thing that only got simpler the longer I thought about it. It probably won’t scale larger than medium size or so but that could be sufficient.

It may be too trusting to rely on ISPs and fiber. A couple of guys I know thus work on ad hoc networking (hardware and software). They still have some way to go, as always with the battery/performance trade off. Jumping onto the internet is a constant temptation.

There is another ad hoc radio network solution for sale right now, which looks fairly nice but underpowered. But it might be a start.

https://gotennamesh.com/products/mesh

Kunning Drueger says:

Using the same framework as those geocache-fags, a mesh network could be deployed fairly simply. Imagine it’s something like “crawlonizing,” which is a slow spread by automated systems well in advance of the actual human colonists; design and document nodes, release the plans, people build fire&forget relays and leave them wherever. They could be disguised like fake/key rocks, hidden in existing infrastructure, or any other method. Low profile and slow growth, but a mesh network all the same.

A2 says:

Need some sort of solar panels too. And/or vampire clips onto existing power.

DARPA had a ‘smart dust’ project though I don’t think it went anywhere.

Mister Grumpus says:

But you do have the answers. You’re describing them here. It’s just that no one’s figured out how to actually realize them yet. Further, you’ve been very faithful to remind us, in your white papers, that there’s colossal money to be made in solving them as well. That helps too.

It’s still progress to help people understand that “the answer” is emphatically not to “conventionally organize even harder”, planting hundreds of flowers for free so they can bloom and get cut down by The Man.

JustAnotherGuy says:

Russian Ministry of Labor said it will fight gender inequality:

https://news.ru/society/mintrud-poboretsya-so-steklyannym-potolkom-dlya-zhenshin/

Does anyone with info on Russia know if they are really doing this? I know no one can escape female emancipation in the world except maybe tribal villages, but I don’t really wanna believe Russia is just a few steps away from convergence to prog insanity.

Varna says:

(end of article)Экс-депутат Оксана Пушкина, комментируя стратегию, отметила отсутствие в ней базовых требований, связанных с прекращением насилия против женщин и борьбой за право распоряжаться своим телом, а также за возможность обеспечивать себя и своих детей.

Наше государство проводит все более консервативную и патриархальную политическую линию, из-за чего равенство прав мужчин и женщин по закону превращается в пустую формальность — реального равенства возможностей нет, — высказалась она.

From the Soviet Union days onward, especially from WWII onward, “gender equality” in Russia means “having a system in which women can run much of the country without the system breaking down”.

When the men are all in the army or in the industry working for the army, or dead and crippled, as it was in the great fatherland war, everything that can conceivably be done by women was done by women.

Combined with the bolshevik/early stalinist “dismantling of the patriarchy”, this produced, by the year 1960, the completely emancipated woman of Eastern Europe (influence from the new Kremlin overlord), the USSR itself, and even today’s China.

This emancipation did not, however, mean not wanting to get married and not wanting kids or not wanting men to open the door for you and give you compliments, to the contrary. Up to until peak globohomo influence around the globe it was thus.

Soviet films with translation:

*Irony of Fate*
Respected surgeon but also spineless mama’s boy is about to be maneuvered into marriage by a woman in her 20s who is hitting the wall slow motion in real time and growing desperate. He meekly submits, but then gets super drunk, comes to in a different city, and is forced to become a man in order to outcompete a swanky milf from an older and high positioned admirer who is about to pop the question.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ms5Ga6kNvHM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=luHarTc90QA
The film is highly annoying until the men start bonding through drink in a bathhouse. After that it’s all fun.

*Moscow Does Not Believe in Tears*
Three women across two decades, from the 1950s to the 1970s. One, Katya, has an unfortunate fling and by the 70s a teen daughter out of wedlock raised by herself. She believes she is self-sufficient factory director, then suddenly meets a blue collar handyman and becomes a woman again. However she does not respect his masculinity and a crisis ensues.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTWA_7-ld_U
Possibly the best character development in comedy-drama known to man.

*Office Romance*
Divorced spineless statistician must find in himself the ability to go crazy and win a dry, duty-oriented female boss, whose only concession to her femininity is her secret stash of potted flowers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mi4gQMDgB_g
Has some truly excellent moments.

Noone says:

Going through ” Moscow Does Not Believe in Tears” right now
It just too long, i watch it episodically.
Very interesting as i just now learn about Russia movies history, the only Russian movie I watched was the epic “waterloo” by Sergei Bondarchuk
several notes:
why Western (US) movies are short while everybody else (Russia,India,chinese etc) are long at least 2hr+ , US around 1hr30 ?
Russian acting is dry and to the point almost too real, I don’t know if you can call it acting.
At some point in the movie one character just barge in the life of 2 other characters while they act like it normal, no “hey get away from here”
Is this actual Russian behaviour or just the writing?
Was amazing seeing a movie with beautiful whites with no “diversity” in site
no fat, tattoo, degeneracy of anykind.
the soviet life does not look too shabby, was this the movie or closer to real life? They seem to have market and shops.
Progs value of girls power are pushed annoyingly, however the fact that the actresses are beautiful and womanly make it palatable.
The movie rise the problem of too many women to men ratio, wonder what the Russian solution ?
why did not the Russian institutions overrun by feminism considering the gender imbalance, you would expect unmarried 30,40, 50 etc women with no husband/ children to make it their business to raise hell in the country
How the Russian solved that.
Finally, still not finished yet. Will complete soon.

Red says:

You’re assuming women drive feminism. Feminism is part of the official unofficial state religion that women embrace but don’t control. The people actually pushing Feminism are the elites who actually call the shots who force that shit on us.

Kunning Druegger says:

Indeed. The greatest, and most embarrassing, irony of our time is that both feminism and negro privilege are both fetishes of elite white males, and always have been. There’s never been a negro movement without white male leadership, just as there has never been female empowerment with male leadership.

Varna says:

Soviet life in the Brezhnev years was the best the citizens of the former Russian Empire had ever experienced, but that’s compared to the past. Compared to western white standards it did indeed suck, and it sucked badly.

Among other things, the soviet system was “personal property yes, private property no”. You owned the stuff you filled up your home with, but not your home as such. You were just “registered” there by the authorities. If you behaved well you could then “re-register” the home to your kids.

Hence, once circa 1990 EE and Russia switched to capitalism, they “privatized” the state-housing, and suddenly the citizen received a tangible “capitalism dividend” — everybody became an actual homeowner.
https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/countries-with-the-highest-home-ownership-rates.html

To this day many people in the EE think that everybody owning their homes is “normal capitalism” and grow baffled when it turns out that Romania and Slovakia for example have way higher home ownership rates than the US, France, and Japan. They have yet to understand how fortunate they were that the transition from System A to System B included turning state housing into private housing.

Some truths about life in the USSR recounted by Russians, including the free healthcare, free housing, product shortages, and other stuff.
https://pikabu.ru/story/o_besplatnyikh_kvartirakh_v_sssr_5695878
https://www.mk.ru/economics/2020/09/03/mify-sssr-chto-stoyalo-za-besplatnymi-zhilem-i-edoy.htmlhttps://www.kp.ru/daily/27229/4355381/
https://pikabu.ru/story/vsya_pravda_o_stomatologii_v_sssr_6439673
https://vpravda.ru/obshchestvo/poterpite-ili-kak-lechili-zuby-v-sssr-28664/

Let’s say you have three types of generic crud products of each type, and some fancy variations. For the basic food stuffs you have to stay in line forever every time, and often instead of the three types you get one. For fancier shit like a banana or jam or something you had to be on your toes, and be among the first to hear that they’re selling it on the other side of town, and get there in time and buy some.

For fridges, washing machines, tv sets, cars, you had to stay registered in the relevant line for years. Also with limited product choice.

When in the 1950s half of the Moscow film the girls organize a party and invite prospective bachelors, the oldest dude brings over some canned tune and sheit. This is not random, his access to these products show his status.

The 1970s half starts with the morning of three households. The normal honest proletariat one we only see the kitchen, but it’s obvious the apartment is smallish. Breakfast for everyone is eggs and bread and a bit of sausage. And tea. That’s a perfect working class family in the capital. This is their ceiling.

The factory boss Katya and her daughter live in a fancy upper level meritocracy apartment. Two rooms, one kitchen. One bed, one foldout. A swanky lada licensed copy of an italian fiat.

Her sad ass lover travels the world. His apartment is the version of high luxury, as is the apartment of Lyudmila who broke her sport star husband but not before sucking everything she could out of him.

Katya’s new love Gosha, a bachelor handyman, doesn’t qualify for an apartment, since he is alone. He qualifies for a room within a communal apartment. Where we find him deep in philosophical bender at one point.

When the girls converge on the countryside dacha of the working class family, and help with conserving local grown vegetables, that’s the winter vitamins.

The 1970s were the peak of the Soviet system. In many ways it was the best quality of life the pleb of those latitudes had ever known. It had many pluses. But it was fucking horrible in many many ways. Many many ways.

Varna says:

Around 1h 33min of the Moscow film, out in nature on the dacha, there is a hidden joke about magical facial creams made from the cum of whaling fleet sailors.

Kunning Druegger says:

Your links and analysis are unparalleled. Thanks for your contribution to this place, Varna.

Varna says:

*bow*

Varna says:

Not the best of time what with the Trump-FBI thing, but while I’m in the mood, for posterity:
SOVIET ADAPTATIONS OF WESTERN POP CULTURE

Alice in Wonderland
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IV2TwxUpvuM
Winnie the Pooh
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3yhBEQlH_Y
Fahrenheit 451
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfXwpPuFIkk
Sherlock Holmes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=saVNmNaRIcY
Steven King short
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0o_2PPsBw0
Captain Nemo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRqR4ZJpDgM
Three Musketeers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XElmWUpOq6Y
The Invisible Man
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3CSWhXOB6k
Mary Poppins
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHUbnASEzPM

Mike in Boston says:

I don’t really wanna believe Russia is just a few steps away from convergence to prog insanity

I defer to Varna’s on-the-ground knowledge, of course, but it seems to me that just as we make a distinction between ordinary Amerikaners and the government they are saddled with, it’s worth making a distinction between ordinary Russians and their post- (or maybe not so post-) Soviet elites.

In particular, the Russian government, like ours, is all-in on clot shots as a test of regime loyalty. Every reader of Jim’s blog with a soft spot for Russia (that includes me) should subscribe to Riley Waggaman’s substack to keep us from having an overly romantic view of the place. See for example his latest roundup:

Russia’s federal COVID Nanny, decreed on July 1 that all remaining mask rules would be dropped (except in the Kremlin, of course). This brave policy U-turn lasted… less than three weeks?

Alexander Konovalov is a businessman in St. Petersburg who operates various bars and hookah lounges. When the city’s extremely constipated governor, Alexander Beglov, announced in January that St. Petersburg “will not return to its former way of life” and that “ubiquitous QR codes are an important and very timely step in this direction,” Mr. Konovalov did a very naughty thing—he refused to comply with the cattle tag regime.

Then something very unexpected happened: Konovalov was arrested

Six months have passed—surely he has been released by now? Ha-ha. Nyet

Mike in Boston says:

Along the same lines, face diaper decrees will return to Russia in order to protect “public health” during the autumn elections, according to Central Election Commission head Ella Pamfilova, a woman and former Human Rights Commissioner in Putin’s government.

It is easy to think of Putin’s regime as the based opposite of the woke Globohomo regime. I think on some level that is true, but only secondarily.

A more predictive mental model is that both regimes are motivated only secondarily by basedness/wokeness. For each the primary, and overwhelming, priority is retaining control of their subjects.

That’s why both Russia and the GAE are all-in on forced vaxxes, face diapers, QR codes, and coming soon central bank digital currencies.

Pooch says:

That’s why both Russia and the GAE are all-in on forced vaxxes, face diapers, QR codes, and coming soon central bank digital currencies.

China too. The people shilling for the based right wing paradises of Russia and China clearly haven’t lived in China or Russia and are incredibly naive. I’d rather live in the US or Europe then either.

Mike in Boston says:

The people shilling for the based right wing paradises of Russia and China clearly haven’t lived in China or Russia

Yep. That’s why the most useful perspectives on Russia are those of Americans who’ve moved there. Like this one.

I’d rather live in the US or Europe

Everyplace has its pros and cons. In Russia it takes less work to prevent your daughter from being psyop’d into cutting off her boobs and taking testosterone.

jim says:

There has been a huge, important, and fundamental change in Russian culture and society. The west’s agents of influence are self-cancelling. Some, a few, are being cancelled by state and quasi state action, but the overwhelming majority simply fled to the west, under their own power, or fleeing non political charges of fraud and larceny. When western business pulled out, and the foundations were pushed out, their funding evaporated, they stole everything they could lay their hands on, and fled. Turned out their was a very well funded apparatus of influence, staffed primarily by Hunter Biden types, rather than by true believers, and when the money stopped flowing, they grabbed anything not nailed down, and moved to Europe.

There was a vast pile of non state, quasi state, and state organizations in Russia that western agents in key positions. And then suddenly these western agents just up and left, usually taking as much of the organization’s assets with them as they could lay their hands on and grab.

When western businesses up and left, their basis for money, power, and influence up and left, and then they up and left, frequently one step ahead of charges of larceny, embezzlement, and arson (they sometimes started fires in their institutions to destroy the records.)

The behavior of these people revealed that they did not identify as Russians, nor as members of the Russian organizations that they were leaders and officers of, but has members of hostile secret alien organizations. Entryists. They perceived themselves as hostile alien outsiders in Russia, and in the organizations that they were leaders and officers of.

The Cominator says:

Nobody has been shilling for China as a based right wing paradise under Xi (pre Xi yeah).

Russia has many things better about it but there is definitely some rot.

ten says:

Do people actually think Russia and China are based and right wing, or do they think Russia and China are moving in the right direction while we are speeding towards the great maelstrom?

I have lived in china, it was great. A lot of bureaucratic bs to cut through. Obscene popular control, guards guards guards guards. Probably much nicer to be a foreigner than being chinese because of “dont fuck with foreigners except scamming them lmao 傻屄” policy. Et cetera. But ironically, they don’t have any “point deer make horse” like we do. The list of things not to question or say is short and almost explicit. They can speak their mind, not that they have any particular interest of speaking of politics, because being overly interested in how the state is run if you’re not in the business of running it is weird and gay. When the government annoys them with hurdles, like the great firewall and rules against night time gaming, they say the government is a retarded fag who got aids from raping niggers and activate their vpn.

China was a derelict wreck only 50 years ago. It has been moving in the right direction rapidly since then. The attempts of keeping memetic sovereignity are blunt and stupid, and as jim says, they need a state religion that isn’t maoism.

Obviously i would have preferred living in my homeland with my people 50 years ago. At the moment, there are pros and cons. In 50 years… if things follow their current trajectory, my grandkids will be hapas.

I don’t know of anyone who thinks China is a based right wing paradise, which would be insane, but it isn’t actively satanic (anymore, at the moment), which is a pretty good start.

Oscar C. says:

I had Covid some weeks ago, for the first time. I caught it after having got the first 2-part vaccine plus a booster afterwards, three jabs in total.

I got throat inflammation, could not work for two days since I have got to talk on the phone. No fever. Headache and general unpleasantness.

I honestly don’t know if not been jabbed would have made any difference… to be honest on this issue I don’t know whom to believe, I recall how in 2020 virology aficionados popped out of nowhere with their graphs, pondering whether masks worked or not, Sweden being correct, the waves and curves, etc.

Although what you say on this post can be true as well. The theory that Covid was probably an accidental release of a lab virus has also gained ground.

jim says:

“Accidental” my ass.

Mister Grumpus says:

Say I had 20 years and a million dollars.

Can one even formulate a process, a methodology, by which I could go about finding and documenting a real answer to the question:

“Covid-19. Exactly what and who and why the fuck was that?”

Just the idea of such a mission seems so naughty now. I’d might as well tell everyone “I’m out here getting to the bottom of this Six Million thing I keep hearing about.” Too sacrilegious.

someDude says:

A million dollars? Sounds a lot like Dr. Evil in Austin Powers holding the whole world to ransom for a million dollars.

Tech Priest says:

I think this is the most likely hypothesis: https://drasticresearch.org/

I.e. that the “DEFUSE” project, which basically looked like a plan to create COVID and was supposedly refused, ended up going ahead anyway with different funding.

Tech Priest says:

I still do think that there’s a good chance the release was semi-accidental. They clearly did not care very much about the consequences of a release, and I imagine that, to the extent that they thought about it, an unconscious attraction to the idea might have led them to ignore the risk, but that’s still compatible with them consciously thinking at the time they were doing the reckless things that this would probably not get released and being consciously horrified at any suggestion of deliberately releasing it.

I don’t in general think that these people are hyper-competent, and the reactions seemed plausible enough to me for them not having directly intended the release (though I’m quite confident they had a good idea what was up after it happened).

jim says:

If you are developing a prohibited biological weapon, you intend to release it under certain circumstances to attain a certain objective. When it was released, they had a plan ready roll to achieve that objective.

Karl says:

Don’t understand why you added the “prohibited” in your statement. Your statement would still be true without that word and whether the covid research was “prohibited” sounds like a difficult legal question.

Tech Priest says:

I can see why you think that, but I have a different mental model which in my view seems to fit well with the observations.

My mental model is:

1. The people working on this were primarily motivated by working on cool awesome stuff for personal glory, with a to-them plausible story about it being for the benefit of humanity, but it’s really the awesomeness that makes it fun. And the fact that if it would be released it would cause massive problems for humanity with them plausibly escaping responsibility for those problems or even getting glory for helping to solve those problems is part of what makes it awesome. Probably they did not think about the prospect of it being released very much. When they thought about it being released, they probably consciously put it aside with the thought that they were too awesome to make such a mistake and anyone thinking otherwise is just a luddite, besides the benefits to humanity of their research leading to preventing natural crossover of bat viruses to humans would be worth it. This assessment was ridiculous but was helped out by the fact that irresponsibly running huge risks on behalf of humanity was assessed as “awesome” by their subconscious.

2. While the research was against the rules against gain-of-function research, the author of the main DEFUSE document did have an extremely flimsy excuse for why it should be technically allowed. They clearly did not respect the rules and either thought that the person assessing the grant proposal was an idiot or thought that the assessor also would disrespect the rules and allow it anyway. So the intention was not to make an illegal virus, but to make one that they could (flimsily) argue to be legal. Besides, the actual virus work (as opposed to the planning stage) was done in China where gain-of-function was still legal. It muddies the water a bit that they went ahead with the proposal after it was declined by DARPA, but they had other plausible motives (awesomeness of creating this awesome virus with a flimsy argument to be benefitting humanity), and had an argument for legality.

3. When the release happened, the public actions and leaked emails seemed to me to better reflect the following thought process:

“Oh shit, the disaster our reckless actions have courted for years has finally happened. Let me ad-hoc think of a way to pretend I had nothing to do with this…”

as opposed to the alternative thought process:

“Ah yes, step 255 of our master plan completed, now let us proceed with step 256…”

BTW I’m not concerned about trying to shield them from punishment – IMO it might be good for our future (e.g. AI) to set a precedent of reckless endangerment of humanity being published severely. I just want to form an accurate worldview of what’s going on here.

jim says:

> with a to-them plausible story about it being for the benefit of humanity,

The fundamental defect in your story is that this was a biological weapon. They were developing a disease that was extremely unlikely to evolve by natural processes. The only way it is going to be intended to benefit humanity is by exterminating hostile populations. They intended to kill very large numbers of people (fortunately Shaniqua was in charge). Which people do you think they had in mind?

Tech Priest says:

They laid out the rationale in the DEFUSE proposal. They would:

a) build machine learning genotype-phenotype models of viral evolution and spillover risk

b) identify the likelihood of bats harboring dangerous viral pathogens at any site across Asia

c) evaluate two approaches to reduce SARS-related coronavirus shedding in cave bats: (1) broadscale immune boosting, in which they would inoculate bats with immune modulators to upregulate their innate immune response and downregulate viral replication and (2) targeted immune boosting, in which they would inoculate bats with novel chimeric recombinant spike proteins plus the immune modulator to enhance innate immunity against specific, high-risk viruses.

That was the official rationale. I suspect that the opportunity to make cool awesome recombinant viruses was also part of the unofficial rationale. Working with stuff that could be a deadly weapon without much accountability is cool and awesome, when you’ve got a convenient excuse for why it’s really in the best interests of humanity to do so (i.e. the official rationale above). No specific intention to deploy it, either in general or against anyone in particular, is required.

jim says:

But their actual research was entirely inconsistent with that rationale – a cover story, not believed or taken seriously.

Matter says:

Both of you can be right
They thought them self doing what Techpriest is saying
However the demons that guid them had other plans.

Tech Priest says:

Their actual research was tangential to the official rationale but entirely consistent with wanting to make cool awesome recombinant viruses in order to be cool and awesome.

jim says:

If you are making something, you intend to use it.

They were attempting to create a deadly disease that has no analog with existing diseases. Therefore, they intended to kill lots of people.

Pax Imperialis says:

The last couple generations of America’s well educated have been brought up on the mantra of making the world a better place and having an impact… well they definitely achieved one of those objectives

Very easy to drink your own kool aid. Big problem among the rank and file of the regime’s academic types.

Many sincerely believe that creating deadly diseases helps understand how deadly diseases are created (in nature) and therefore create the knowledge to prevent the creation of deadly diseases.

It’s why they are so pathologically defensive about lab leak theory. They are so bought into the idea that they are making the world a better place that the possibility that they made it worse is shattering. To protect their own sense of worth they must be in denial.

jim says:

> Many sincerely believe that creating deadly diseases helps understand how deadly diseases are created (in nature)

If that was your obective, you would be trying to simulate the way deadly diseases are created in nature. That was not their approach.

For example, you would hybridize the virus with other natural viruses to observe the production of a virus with the capabilities of both its parent viruses. You would mingle bat viruses with some other virus that had a different entry mechanism to attack lung tissue. You would not synthesize a gene de-novo to attack lung tissue. Their gain of function research was aimed at adding wholly artificial new functionality to the virus, not at discovering how gain of function could occur in nature.

If you want to learn about potential new virus threats, you create viruses that might potentially arise in nature. You don’t deliberately create a virus with gain of function that is extremely unlikely to arise naturally.

If those guys had been doing what they pretended they were doing, and were stupid and careless, they might have created one virus with one gain of function, to see what would happen, and then created another virus with a different gain of function, to see what would happen.

These guys threw the kitchen sink into a single virus, anything that might plausibly work out as gain of function. They were not trying to learn what might happen. They were trying to make it happen.

The alleged research rationale can explain adding one gain of function. It cannot explain performing multiple attempted gains of function in a single virus. That indicates genocidal intent.

Pax Imperialis says:

“That was not their approach.”

Indeed, but let’s not forget cognitive dissonance and plain stupidity exists. Biologists/virologists are no exception and the ones working for priestly institutions are far more vulnerable.

You’re giving these people far too much credit. Many of them are not thinking logically. You are thinking like an engineer. They are not engineers. They don’t think like engineers. What’s obvious to you is not obvious to most people in biology… even the ones playing engineer with genetics.

Biology is quickly becoming an engineering field largely populated and run by people slightly more intelligent than an English Lit major and with a far higher percentage of women.

You’re going to get a lot of stupid fucking experiments conducted without any thought given to consequences because they are incapable of thinking in terms of consequences.

I’m not claiming malice doesn’t exist. It does, but the stupidity, shielded by a sense of moral righteousness, is going to get lots of people killed in large numbers just as well.

jim says:

> You’re going to get a lot of stupid fucking experiments conducted without any thought given to consequences because they are incapable of thinking in terms of consequences.

That explains gain of function experiments. It does not explain adding multiple functions to the same virus.

Pax Imperialis says:

“It does not explain adding multiple functions to the same virus.”

Why should the F35 be a bomber, a fighter, a VTOL, with limited range and limited armaments capacity? A plane that tries to be everything and succeeds at being good at nothing.

One might say malice was involved, and there is a strong argument that US military capability was deliberately sabotaged, but more importantly there was unlimited budget so why care? Just toss on all the bells and whistles you can think of.

So why add multiple functions to the same virus? Because as long as the research money continues to flow why not? I’ve had conversations with academics on why they continue to fiddle around with the same research project for 10+ years developing nothing of value. They have no reason to care so long as money continues to flow.

In fact the more functions you can add to the same virus the more “innovative” and “cutting edge” you demonstrate your research to the Shaniquas who oversee the funding bureaucracy.

It’s undeniable that this research had extensive use for biological warfare. What Tech Priest and I are trying to point out is that when to talk to the vast majority of these people working on what is essentially a weapons program, they sincerely have no idea and are incapable of adding two and two together. Partly because many of them are not so bright, partly because they’ve completely bought into the propaganda, partly because when academia and government work rewards pretending to not notice certain things you eventually get people who can’t notice things at all.

jim says:

> Why should the F35 be a bomber, a fighter, a VTOL, with limited range and limited armaments capacity?

The F35 is intended to kill people, and the virus was intended to kill people. It does not have those mutually conflicting capabilities because they were cool, but because each seemed like it was useful for killing people.

So why add multiple functions to the same virus? Because as long as the research money continues to flow why not

The research money would continue to flow if you produced a dozen viruses to each of which one function had been added. You would start with the original wild type virus, add one gain of function to it, and see what happens. Then you would start with some more wild type virus, add a different gain of function to it. This would be consistent with the official rationale for the research and was in fact what they reported themselves as doing. It is not in fact what they were actually doing. The difference between the reported and actual research is the difference between the rationale and the real objective, which was to murder enormous numbers of people, sterilize the rest, and impose a medical dictatorship.

Pax Imperialis says:

The point of the F35 analogy was that there is an extremely poorly managed program producing terrible results (it still is), but so long as the money keeps flowing why change? In fact the more dysfunctional it becomes the more you can bill the government for because the government solution is unlimited money (printing).

Same dynamic in most academia research. So long as you get funding why produce anything of value? Why care about safety? Morality? Except the biology academics are far less intelligent than the F35 engineers. So while the F35 guys know they are working on a system to kill people, the biology women largely don’t.

Watch this, PhD with 112 IQ:
https://youtu.be/RAlI0pbMQiM?t=105

I once lived in the graduate college dorms with many similar women. They are not very smart. They are also the ones getting millions in research grants to do virology research. What do you expect to happen when they start playing around with gain of function among other things?

I understand why people look at gain of function and coronavirus research and automatically think bio-weapons program. It’s blindingly obvious there is a military application there.

What I’m telling you is that large numbers of the researchers are too brain dead to recognize what they are doing and the government facilitates this by printing money right into the hands of the worst possible and least conscientious people it can.

We have overt weapons program that aren’t very good at killing people even though the engineers are intelligent and are knowingly trying to design something that is good at killing.

We have covert biological weapons program that was good at killing some people (but mostly fertility) even though the virologist are fairly stupid and generally are not trying to kill people.

It’s a comedic tragedy.

jim says:

> The point of the F35 analogy was that there is an extremely poorly managed program producing terrible results (it still is), but so long as the money keeps flowing why change?

We don’t need to explain incompetence and failure – that is the natural state of affairs, and avoiding it is always difficult.

The question is, what was their purpose, what were they trying to do? Well, with the F35, obvious that they are trying to kill enemies in wartime, and with genetic engineering that went into the Covid virus, obvious that they were trying to kill very large numbers of ordinary people just trying to quietly live their lives.

They were not incompetently doing the research they were purportedly doing. They were incompetently doing bioweapon development. The actual research differed from the reported research in ways that shows the purpose.

Pax Imperialis says:

“The question is, what was their purpose, what were they trying to do?”

For most of them is it priestly status by “making the world a better place.”

Many of the researchers do not know, cannot believe, incapable of understanding that they are in fact working on a weapons program.

They proceeded haphazardly even in regards to their own health and safety. That is not the behavior of people who are knowingly creating bio-weapons.

This makes trying to ascertain purpose or motivations murky at best. Futile at worst. I would argue pointless as regardless of purpose this needs to stop and everyone even remotely related to Faucci and Daszak retired permanently.

jim says:

> For most of them is it priestly status by “making the world a better place.”

But making it a better place how? By what means? It is clear that they research that they actually were in fact doing was aimed at making the world a better place by exterminating billions of people and establishing a medical dictatorship.

> incapable of understanding that they are in fact working on a weapons program.

If they were incapable of understanding that they were working on a bioweapons program, would not have cone the work in a manner appropriate to a bioweapons program. You think the people working on the F35 don’t understand they are trying to blow people up?

The official research and official research purpose had a curious resemblance to a bioweapon research program. The actual research had a great deal more resemblance to a bioweapon research program.

Pax Imperialis says:

Have you never heard the slogan “making the world a better place?” It’s a beautifully crafted piece of propaganda.

Silicon Valley poked fun at it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8C5sjjhsso

It’s a nearly meaningless regime slogan that upper middle class American schools incessantly repeated over and over again in the K-12 system during the 90s and 2000s.

Saving the whales is “making the world a better place.”
Environmentalism is “making the world a better place.”
Shutting down coal plants is “making the world a better place.”
Welfare is “making the world a better place.”
Being liberal is “making the world a better place.”
Voting for Obama is “making the world a better place.”


Eventually you get
Doing gain of function research is “making the world a better place.”
etc.

There is no thinking involved on why these things are “making the world a better place.” It was never explained why it is “making the world a better place.” You just accept it as a proclamation of faith in the regime.

The little meaning that does exists is the strong connection to high status and power. All the more reason not to question it too hard. And all these kids who grew up mindlessly repeating this mantra eventually ended up in academia, government, and NGOs so they too could participate in “making the world a better place.”

Most are not thinking in terms of exterminating billions of people is “making the world a better place.”
They are thinking in terms of “making the world a better place” is “making the world a better place” much in the same way a gender studies professor might define a women as someone who identifies as a women.

They don’t think in terms of ‘if I shut down all the coal power plants people will freeze and die in the winter.’ They think in terms of ‘if I shut down all the coal power plants I will be making the world a better place.’

The reason why the purity spiral is accelerating so fast at this moment is because millennials and Gen Z are the first generations to grow up fully submersed in the regime propaganda and truly believe the tenets unquestioningly. The regime old guard who know much of the stuff is just propaganda are old and retiring and being replaced by the true believers.

jim says:

> Most are not thinking in terms of exterminating billions of people is “making the world a better place.”

Then they would have done the research in accordance with the official rationale, and in accordance with the way they reported doing the research.

That is not what they did.

If The Cominator is correct that it is Jesuit conspiracy, they conceptualized themselves as evil mad geniuses working for literal demons.

Obviously not geniuses. As to whether the demons were literal or metaphorical remains in question.

If you look at the work and effort that went into the F35 it is perfectly obvious that they were trying, however incompetently, to blow up our enemies. And if you look at the work that went into creating the Covid virus, it is perfectly obvious that they were trying, however incompetently, to murder billions.

Pax Imperialis says:

“in accordance with the official rationale”

The official rationale is extremely flexible. It’s the main reason that line of research was put on pause in 2014. Look up Yoshihiro Kawaoka.

“and in accordance with the way they reported doing the research.”

That was a major concern and criticism of the 2017 regulatory framework for gain of function research

“That is not what they did.”

Many people are hypocrites. Many hypocrites in the regime are not self aware. I’ve been writing about how many of these researchers, not all, believe they are working within official rationale when they weren’t.

You are assuming self awareness is common. It is not. Moreover it is downright rare in the most recent generations.

jim says:

> Many people are hypocrites. Many hypocrites in the regime are not self aware.

If they thought they were trying forestall a disease, rather than create it, would have done the research in accordance with the official rationale, would have done, or at least attempted to do, the research they reported themselves as doing. In practice, they treated the official rationale as the mere cover story for biological warfare aimed at the murder of billions that it was.

It sounded like a cover story, and they acted like they regarded it as a cover story. There is an entire network of bioweapons research labs located in third countries where they can operate without oversight. The entire network is operated like a top secret bioweapons project, not like medical research for preventing diseases. They do research into stuff like dispersing diseases as aerosols from drones, that sort of thing. If they thought they were doing research into preventing diseases, they would be doing the research in Harvard. The entire research program, spanning many countries, is operated in a manner indicative of mens rea.

If The Cominator is correct, they are working for the Jesuits, and I know what the Jesuits believe. They believe they are working for the antichrist to bring about the eschaton in the thousand year rule of Satan.

Tech Priest says:

Even making something in a clandestine facility that’s intended as a weapon, you might still want to keep it ready to use and hope not to actually use it. Otherwise we’d expect to see a lot more biowarfare than seems readily apparent.

But, this seems to have been not even made or intended to have been made in a clandestine facility, unless they sneakily leaked a fake plan, which I consider unlikely relative to simply being more secret.

To be sure, what they made doesn’t look too good right now on the risk-benefit ratio, and I think that an unbiased person would think the same even without hindsight. However, I don’t think that these people were unbiased. I think that they:

a) were arrogant and dismissive of the possibility of a leak

b) really wanted to have a cool and awesome virus, not to actually leak it, but because subconsciously the theoretical power to leak it made them feel cool and awesome

c) considered the anti-gain-of-function perspective to be luddites and an affront to Science, and to their own privileges as Scientists

d) imagined themselves to value Science for it’s own sake and took it on faith that unfettered research into whatever pathogen they felt like would ultimately lead to the betterment of society, (excuse: the search for pure knowledge has often lead to serendipitous useful advances in the past)

Ghost says:

Don’t need a million. Just need alone time with the right people, a board, and a five gallon bucket of water.

Kunning Drueger says:

It just occurred to me that the Organized region of the Radical Left cloud requires a Republican President, a liberal governor, and a reliable DA to fight their street war effectively. Because they’re actually smart (in some sense of the word), they have kept Jane’s Erection, antifa, BLM, and the NGOs mostly muzzled. The spate of arson attacks the past 6+ months are all they can pull off because they have excellent media control. But an effective insurgency must carry the reputation of death dealing at will to wield power over the minds of the citizenry among which they operate. 2020 campaign should back up what I’m saying on the logistical/numbers side.

A red tide in November might be due to calculated efforts by the radicals, as we know the vote tallies don’t matter. It should be noted that while Democracyâ„¢ is fake and gay, headcount in local elections is real as fuck and would matter if the climate was spicy. They will not go head to head with the heavily armed populace, not yet. They need Red Flag to be able to disarm their opposition politically. So federal adoption of Red Flag with a Republican President, liberal governors, and Soros/hard left DAs, is the conditions for a radical left campaign that will attempt to culminate in a formal instantiation of the One Party State. I think this, or something like this, is one of the plans being enacted currently. Call it J06 × 1000.

jim says:

> headcount in local elections is real as fuck

Reflect on the sudden implausible turnaround in the Republican primaries. A similar outcome set in everywhere simultaneously throughout the American Empire.

You cannot get more local than the Kansas abortion vote. You think that was real as fuck?

Red says:

The number of people accepting these rigged elections as legitimate is amazing. They can’t bring themselves to question it.

Kunning Druegger says:

A state wide plebiscite is not a local election, it is a federal election constrained to state borders. A local election is defined by the participants proximity to the voting sites, and I mean all participants; voters, volunteers, officials, and candidates. If you take the time to look at Kansas vote (I haven’t and I won’t, not my niggers, not my woodpile), I bet you will find very low engagement in rural and exurb, very intense media blitz in urban and hi population areas, a ton of signage and language demarcating Normal and Modern from backwards and strange, and all the usual tricks of the local DNC negros, females, and faggots making ballots appear out of nowhere. The more Red, law & order a state is, the more likely they are to except whatever the official outcome is, which is an exploit that has been and will continue to be used by DNC.

Succinctly, calling the Kansas Abortion Operation a local election is dishonest. By definition, “Statewide” is not local. The elections in 2022 for all the little spots, all the community-centric positions will be a good litmus test for engagement and sentiment of the politically active of the given region. The statewide elections will be doctored (anything where the “results” get centralized and reviewed in an urban area will get the 4am negress treatment), but they will not be able or willing to go into each local stronghold.

Modernity is being peeled away, layer by layer. If the election officials live in the places they officiate, they will be less inclined to countenance the idea of someone showing up on their doorstep. If they jet set around, leaving the area after the job is done, they will feel more free to act. I bet a thorough review of the Kansas plebiscite will reveal a bunch of non-Kansans fortifying the process and fleeing the next day.

Jim, I know you are on guard for recucklicans coming in here and urging people to “vote harder,” and you should be. But this is the second time you’ve misinterpreted what I am saying about local elections. What I am interested in, concerned with, and driving at is a set of circumstances that happens to coincide with elections. These circumstances also roughly overlap with county fairs, local sporting events, holiday parades, and large social gatherings. It is the coming together of large enough groups with shared history and an impulse to engage at many levels. Local elections are the most interesting because the impulses are in a direction conducive to what I deem necessary, but honestly a sufficiently peopled kegger could check most if not all the boxes.

Headcounting is the birthplace of the demotist impulse. Putting all the most capable men of a region in the same room and “seeing what the fuck is up” gave a lot of people the idea that you could do that, but not have the battle, duel, showdown, brawl, etc., that usually followed. Instead, you counted marbles to represent heads and everybody went back home, alive and well. What it has become is fake and gay, and I don’t give a shit about election dynamics, polls, engagement metrics, blah blah. I care about being able to get a bunch of men in a room together and ask questions, make statements, and come to decisions about what happens next. This is the “realness” to which I refer. When the Godfather has a party for his daughter’s birthday, his daughter and the birthday are secondary to the invitee list and the conversations that go on behind and around the days festivities. It can, and should, be the same for local elections. All the parts are just sitting there, waiting to be assembled, gassed up, and set off.

Anonmark says:

So Dem pass the “green new deal”
What to expect in inflation terms?
I remember somewhere it take couple of months for effect to happen
inflation not until late 2023
IRS get billions to ramp up audits for small business.
look like there will not be a functioning economy by 2024.

jim says:

Inflation takes more than a few months to become visible. But after each inflationary shock, becomes visible faster.

Our masters find production icky, and have long under a variety of excuses shut down as much of this icky stuff as possible, instead relying on importing stuff from China and exporting bits of paper spoiled with green ink. The Green New Deal is a further escalation and acceleration of something that has been under way for a very long time.

Red says:

That’s good evidence that the midterms are going to be rigged to the moon. Nothing popular about the crap they put in that bill.

Aidan says:

Quadrupling the size of the IRS’ auditors and still winning an election is the most blatant fraud possible.

There are not anywhere close to enough people qualified to do this work for the IRS; they will hire an army of Shaniquas to shake down middle and working class whites with the full force of federal tax law behind them. I not even exaggerating; they’ll just arbitrarily decide every gainfully employed white man owes them money from years ago, hoping you don’t have the records or legal ability to fight it. Certain blue states have already started doing it.

Nothing wants to make me fedpost like the IRS does

Cataclysm Reawake says:

Source on the quadrupling? Seeing lots of “budget doubled” and “+87,000 auditors” but no figures on the current size of IRS’s auditor forces and nothing on quadrupling, I’d love to throw that in the fucking faces of my Biden-voting extended family.

Aidan says:

My bad, they merely sextupled the budget and announced 87000 new staff (only slightly more than doubling), who are going to be doing…?

I think my suspicion is warranted

Cataclysm Reawake says:

I repeat, what gave you that idea? Where exactly are you getting these figures (sextupled and slightly more than doubling)?

Kunning Druegger says:

What is up with your reddit tier “source?” line of inquiry here? What was unclear about what he said, about the overwhelming emotionality of seeing the most destructive wing of federal enforcement casually announce they are putting together an army Saruman style to rape and ruin middle class middle earth?

Why are you talking to your family and “friends” who support Biden? Remember what they did to us in 2016? 2017-2019? 2020? 2021? Why haven’t you shunned every single nigger forgiving, slut protecting, fed worshipping faggot in your life?

Do you know why the Right gets cucked and the Left wins? When the leftist doesn’t like something, xe trashes it, insults it, mocks it, destroys it, and crows about what xe did. When the Right dislikes something, he tries to understand it, reason with it, encourage it, help it grow.

Fuck talking and fuck rapprochement. The time of Schmitt is at hand. No more talking, no more debating. Time to cut off that left hand and cast it away from ourselves, in order to spare the body.

Aidan says:

The staff of the IRS and its budget are publicly available information

Cataclysm Reawake says:

Chill the fuck out. If he’s verified the information himself then he must know where to go to do that. It’s a reasonable request to ask someone to spend 1 minute typing a comment so that several other people don’t have to each waste 10-20 minutes crawling the web themselves. I’d prefer to use the most bombastic vocabulary in my hot takes but the emotionality is totally lost on me if I’m not confident that it describes reality accurately – call me a bad liar.

What about “throw it in their fucking faces” made you think I don’t enjoy insulting, mocking, and destroying leftists. I have no interest in reasoning with leftists anymore, only in BTFOing them physically and rhetorically (primarily the former). Make no mistake, I dumped my final leftist friend in 2017. Not everyone is privileged enough to have family that aren’t boomercons and thereby insist on “family comes first” even when quote-unquote “family” are racemixers that support infanticide and (I presume) kindergartener catamites. I never engage the leftists in conversation except to slap down their political takes at Thanksgiving, but I’m not about to disown the boomercons over their failure to disown the leftists – if you think that makes me a cuck then go on thinking that see if I care.

Fuck…

Kunning Drueger says:

Ok, fair enough. I flew off the handle. I didn’t call you a Cuck, I damned our side for being cucks. Strip out the emotional invective and my point stands: we are too ready as a group to compromise and forgive. But that’s not on you, or me for that matter.

So I apologize for the crybaby bullshit, bro. Vaya con Dios with the lib-owning.

Cataclysm Reawake says:

Goodwill transmitted and received. Right back atcha tiger.

Pooch says:

It’s starting to look increasingly clear that they will rig the Senate. There is now media rhetoric that the massively popular Trump-endorsed state-wide candidates have “no chance” to win in the general election which is code for they will just be frauded out. The Republicans should still comfortably win the House though.

Aidan says:

It is not about inflation anymore- they’ve moved straight to implementing communism. Right now, everyone is working and the economy is still contracting, because the price of cars, gas, electricity, food, and clothing, has squeezed the GDP-gaining luxuries out of the household budget.

The new environmental regulations are designed to crush the production of gas, electricity, and food, and the IRS expansion is designed to shake down the middle class for everything left over. Time for third-world conditions, if the holiness spiral does not boil over into fast genocide of the kulaks.

The Cominator says:

Trump raided by FBI. War coming.

JustAnotherGuy says:

I really can’t believe Jim was right about 2026 being the year it will go overboard.

I’ve been reading the blog for like 5+ years now, and I was pretty jaded about prophets of doom announcing impending peril, but here we are, I wonder how much time I have left to make preparations.

Dr. Faust says:

Statement by Donald J. Trump, 45th President of the

United States of America

These are dark times for our Nation, as my beautiful home, Mar-A-Lago in Palm Beach, Florida, is currently under siege, raided, and occupied by a large group of FBI agents. Nothing like this has ever happened to a President of the United States before. After working and cooperating with the relevant Government agencies, this unannounced raid on my home was not necessary or appropriate. It is prosecutorial misconduct, the weaponization of the Justice System, and an attack by Radical Left Democrats who desperately don’t want me to run for President in 2024, especially based on recent polls, and who will likewise do anything to stop Republicans and Conservatives in the upcoming Midterm Elections. Such an assault could only take place in broken, Third-World Countries. Sadly, America has now become one of those Countries, corrupt at a level not seen before. They even broke into my safe! What is the difference between this and Watergate, where operatives broke into the Democrat National Committee? Here, in reverse, Democrats broke into the home of the 45th President of the United States.

The political persecution of President Donald J. Trump has been going on for years, with the now fully debunked Russia, Russia, Russia Scam, Impeachment Hoax #1, Impeachment Hoax #2, and so much more, it just never ends. It is political targeting at the highest level!

Hillary Clinton was allowed to delete and acid wash 33,000 E-mails AFTER they were subpoenaed by Congress. Absolutely nothing has happened to hold her accountable. She even took antique furniture, and other items from the White House.

I stood up to America’s bureaucratic corruption, I restored power to the people, and truly delivered for our Country, like we have never seen before. The establishment hated it. Now, as they watch my endorsed candidates win big victories, and see my dominance in all polls, they are trying to stop me, and the Republican Party, once more. The lawlessness, political persecution, and Witch Hunt must be exposed and stopped.

I will continue to fight for the Great American People!

jim says:

Trump:

> Mar-A-Lago in Palm Beach, Florida, is currently under siege, raided, and occupied by a large group of FBI agents

I predicted this for April-June 2020. Timing wrong, prediction correct.

He is going to be imprisoned awaiting trial indefinitely, then murdered. Not any time soon, but eventually

As I repreatedly said shortly before the 2020 election: When it became likely the election was going to be stolen, needed to call out the militia instead of calling in the lawyers.

Attempting to oppose stolen elections by any lesser means than guns will prove fatal.

Ghost says:

I remember that Jim. You called it. Just a delay while the Dems were testing the waters. They will plant evidence now then lure him into a perjury trap. That’s how they’ve worked in the past.

Ghost says:

It’s beginning to look like there’s a connection between Alex Jones’ leaked iphone messages and Trump being raided by the FBI. They must have found something on the phone or Jones outright sold him out. Controlled opposition.

Kunning Druegger says:

Please qualify this assertion.

Ghost says:

What, you a Jones fan now?

Think about it. What attorney would accidentally leak his clients private messages as part of discovery without going through it first? Unbelievable! This guy cut a deal. They were going for $100mil and settled for $4mil.

Jones and Trump were close. His phone is a goldmine of information.

Or you can say coincidence.

Jones is doing a show on this as damage control. Time will tell but my intuition tells me he turned.

Globalist Power Terminated II says:

Wowzies.

The Cominator says:

“Think about it. What attorney would accidentally leak his clients private messages as part of discovery without going through it first”

A compromised one. In a legitimate system the attorney would be disbarred for misconduct, incompetence, malpractice etc and the trial redone on the grounds of lack of effective counsel but that won’t happen with Jones.

Kunning Druegger says:

Are you confused about “qualify” or “assertion?” Soifacing at a calendar and a clock doesn’t prove anything.

Here’s a little primer on how FBI works these days: womanleaders have a million meetings, Agents attend said meetings, functionaries collect, collate, and replicate information until there is a veritable universe of forms, documents, memos, emails, and every possible type of paperwork that becomes a labyrinthine nightmare only navigable by the functionaries that created it. The net result is that nothing happens without 6 gorrillion requests and approvals, triple stamped with double stamps, and multiple task forces being notified of task force notifications. The FBI is not nimble, nor is it proactive, it is a laborious cudgel wielded against the adversaries of the regime. This Raid has either been in the pipeline for a while, or it started with LEO and got kicked up the chain repeatedly until FBI was forced to do it. If this was a raid thrown together on unexpected info at the last minute, pretty sure it would be the Marshalls, though HRT and certain elements of the Bureau are, at least on paper, able to move quickly, though I have doubts about continued efficacy.

Maybe Jones’ traitor counsel did send some info to the Man, but that sounds pretty Q to me. It seems more likely this has been in the pipeline for a while, and they are just checking the boxes. If we assume that IVI is an ongoing operation, this raid is just the next step, right?

Ghost says:

Perhaps. Your theory seems solid enough. Big gov does tend to move slow. But, they can also move quickly too.

Keep in mind Trump is surrounded by Secret Service all the time. Even when he drops a deuce.

Civil Servants love to gossip. Had this been in the pipes for too long, it would have likely leaked to Trump or Jared. Secret Service is probably pretty tight lipped but they’re still human.

Ghost says:

Also, I’ve seen these new breed of FBIs at job fairs for clearance people. They are not white men with pressed suits. Most are fat female millennial types wearing kakis and a polo and a bad attitude plastered on their face. You give that a little authority and the outcome can go in all directions. Accept justice.

The Cominator says:

“Maybe Jones’ traitor counsel did send some info to the Man, but that sounds pretty Q to me.”

Jones traitor counsel sent shit to the man… on Alex Jones.

I doubt he had anything on Trump that in a non corrupt country would constitute a real crime though. But they are the past the point of looking for a real crime.

“The net result is that nothing happens without 6 gorrillion requests and approvals, triple stamped with double stamps, and multiple task forces being notified of task force notifications. The FBI is not nimble, nor is it proactive, it is a laborious cudgel wielded against the adversaries of the regime.”

It resembles the Adeptus Administratum in its normal processes but it resembles the 40k Inquisition when commanded at a high level to get someone.

Kunning Druegger says:

USSS and FBI are agencies in opposition to each other because their turf overlaps; USSS is tasked with investigating all monetary crimes in CONUS, and FBI has literally 0 cases with no monetary elements. USSS is mostly the uniformed service, and a single division does close protection for VIPs, though I assume they’ve been on a hiring spree, just like the majority of fed1800series since 2020/21.

This is all info that could be found on wikipedia. My underlying point, and I feel a bit like a fag saying this, is that correlation is not necessarily an indication of causality. Is it possible that Nancy Pelosi went to Taipei at the behest of Mitch McConnell to obtain physical evidence that Trump had purloined secret documents as he was chased out of the Whitehouse? Maybe. But I don’t think so.

Remember: many factions, many conspiracies, many actions, none necessarily coordinated.

Look, you may be right, brother. It’s all just so tiresome. We cannot fedpoast, we must not fedpoast, we will not fedpoast…

Doom says:

“Turned”
Yeah… that’s what happened, “turned”.

He screams about satanic goblins.

I’m starting to think Jones’ performance was simply about demonstrating to the “elite” that he should be one of them.. losing this trial is just a sacrifice hes publicly making to show loyalty.

The Cominator says:

I imagine Trump is probably cautious about speaking on the phone or via text…

Contaminated NEET says:

Trump’s a boomer and blowhard, and he thinks out loud. He also had no clue what he was up against. Unless his public persona is vastly different from his private self, his texts and calls are a gold mine of gaffs, crimethink, and actual legitimate crime.

Milosevic says:

You’re delusional if you believe Trump’s texts and calls haven’t already been examined in the years prior. There’s obviously nothing there.

jim says:

Nuts

People have gone over his stuff times without number.

Squeaky clean.

Red says:

Sounds like leftist bullshit.

Ghost says:

Is it that hard to believe? Look, Jones has publicly criticized Trump on his show many times and even went as far as saying he would protest outside “Mar-a-lago.”

The phone is filled with messages between Jones and Roger Stone, another close associate of Trump who he pardoned.

This raid came on the heels of the Jones trial in which the litigants even said they would hand the phone over.

I wouldn’t trust Jones and I wouldn’t trust Stone. These are con men. Trump was hung out to dry by these two.

Whites are wolf to whites, remember?

There’s also some in chambers conversation between Jones and the Judge accusing him of multiple counts of perjury. He cut a deal for his phone to save his own hide.

Red says:

>Is it that hard to believe?

Yes. You have no evidence of it and the sort of things like AJ and Trump are working together is a standard leftist trope.

Ghost says:

Maybe you’re not aware that Steve Bannon and Roger Stone are regular guests on Jones’ show. You must have known that Bannon was Trump’s advisor and Stone a campaign advisor. Jones also interviewed Trump.

There is a link regardless of you believing it.

And I’m not tropeing that Jones worked with Trump. I’m saying he betrayed him. Clear difference.

clovis says:

I remember you saying it because it was right about after January 6th, and I was expecting it imminently too. Now it looks like it Trump will be in jail soon. Even if they just keep him out of the election it’s just a matter of time before he is jailed and probably Epsteined.

Anon says:

You called it, I was wrong
I thought curtis point of brezhnev decline was good, turned normality bias
However, i think how trump is going down is important
Even Caeser had to flee Rome
if he follow Louis xvi and the tsar by handing himself to the enemy and wish they are merciful he will end as you said
But what if he raised a banner and called his follower and vowed to fight until the end like Charles the first ?
What the reactionary position

Pooch says:

I wouldn’t go making a victory lap just yet. There’s a long road from FBI raids to prison indefinitely. Anyone dealing with accurate forecasting knows we don’t deal in certainties, only probabilities. I’d put him being indicted at around 25%. Probably lower once he announces he is officially running for President.

The Cominator says:

Indictment may not be imminent but it is almost certain…

alf says:

Hey someone’s gotta defend Moldbug. Though it perchance does seem like we are moving beyond the Moldbug era, into the Jim era..

The Cominator says:

Moldbug is right about many things and wrong about many things.

The two worst features of him are

1. Shilled the coronahoax

2. Too sympathetic for the Brahmin class, when the restoration of our civilization requires that they be genocided the few right wing dissidents exempted. Nothing less will work.

His predictions of moderation and stagnation being permanent are in line with his baffling tendency in #2.

The radicals and the Brehnevians are blaming each other for their programme not working, to avoid collapsing into infighting the radicals have suggested going after Trump as a unifying factor which the Brehnevians having previously opposed have agreed to given the failure of their government going as they’ve liked. This likely ends up with Trump eventually murdered in prison. The Brehnevians will want to draw the persecution of Trump out IMHO so maybe a couple years before he ends up in prison.

Fidelis says:

Bolsheviks and Mensheviks, another yarvinism, works better as an analogy here. Pre- as opposed to post-Revolution.

ten says:

Re: moldbug the coronahoaxer

His wife lay dying (from cancer? idk) in the initial wave. He stocked up on top tier masks and hazmat gloves and didn’t move from outside to inside without a full change of clothes to non contaminated ones and a shower, etc. Pretty likely the wifey would die if exposed.

His mental place shouldn’t lead to politic prescriptions, but we’re just monkeys man. I’ll give him a break. In his context, covid was a lethal threat.

jim says:

True, but if my predictions turned out to be on Musk time, yours have been irritatingly stubborn normality bias in the face of an ever more abnormal reality.

Neurotoxin says:

Whoa. This is where the importance of coordination comes in. If everyone on the right could act in concert the political landscape of the US would be completely re-shaped in our favor 24 hours from now. As it is, it will be re-shaped, but…

someDude says:

The right needs a leader to coalesce around in order to act in concert. They are not going to spontaneously act in concert. Who is that leader and where is he?

Neurotoxin says:

“They are not going to spontaneously act in concert.”

I know. This is my point. In the last 6 – 12 months I’ve been coming around more to this blog’s position on the all-importance of coordination.

Neurotoxin says:

Vox Day:

Trump’s “courage failed him in the end. Now he’s beginning to learn the price of failing to fight when the situation requires it.”

Red says:

Teddy Spaghetti isn’t wrong for once.

Kunning Druegger says:

OK, guys. What is going to happen, and what is the timeline looking like?

Jim was correct but off, and I think that is because he assumed a higher level of coordination and control than what They actually had.

I think this is not a DNC plot, or not completely, I think this is the beginning of the Night of the RINO Horn. I think they are going to do it under the cover of the System and Biden, but it’s actually a purge on the Right. If other ultra-magas get raided (Trump wasn’t the first, but it has all been tied to IVI, and I think that trend will continue and intensify), I think the scope will expand to Russian Sympathizers.

Is there any possibility that the right wing will rise, or is conservatism going out with a whisper?

Contaminated NEET says:

Of course there’s no chance the right will rise. If they were winners, they’d be the left.

Kunning Druegger says:

This sounds a bit like “if humans were mortal, they’d all be dead.”

Contaminated NEET says:

What I mean is, the left has been winning for the last 150 years, minimum, and the right has been losing for all that time, over and over and over again. If you’re a winner – a bright, ambitious, hard-working, amoral, ruthless, perceptive young man who wants to get ahead – it’s a no-brainer: become a leftist. That leaves the right with the people who don’t really care about winning and aren’t willing to do what it takes and with the losers who couldn’t compete in the big leagues. They’re not going to do anything because, as ridiculous and incompetent as the American left is, they’re all genius philosopher-king renaissance men in comparison to the American right. We can’t fight them on any level, because we lack the will, the people, and the organization to do it. The left will destroy itself with its own insanity eventually; and all we can do is run and hide until then.

Wulfgar Thundercock III says:

Look at the best the left has to offer. Communism Barbie, Vaush, and that queer who was briefly famous for being a White House intern and being such a fucking pussy. You can look behind the curtain and even the leftists willing to risk themselves are pathetic. Antifa mugshots look like a special-ed class’s yearbook photos. No, if anything, the bright, ambitious and amoral young men have been going into the outer party where they still have a chance. The Charlie Kirks and Ben Shapiros of the world are on the right. Now, they might quickly switch left, but then they end up at the bottom of the leftist hierarchy if they are not immediately hanged for heresy. I do not think many will try it.

Contaminated NEET says:

Charlie Kirk and Ben Shapiro. Your words, not mine. They’re the best and brightest of the American right. QED.

jim says:

Nuts.

They are morons.

The bright and ambitious all do indeed all apply to Harvard for exactly the reasons you suggest. And then an IQ 90 political commissar examines them for orthodoxy. And they have cleverly constructed a pile of clever rationalizations for orthodoxy, which are far too clever for the commissar to understand, so he flunks them out for heresy.

Read the writings of their best and brightests. A short while ago, their best and brightest were medium brights, good enough to be a somewhat marginal engineer. Now their best and brightest are at best midwits. Hillary is way smarter than the best and brightest of the younger elite of the elite, and if you read what she writes, smart fraction, probably ninetieth percentile. Most of us here are considerably smarter than her.

Contaminated NEET says:

The Left is still pulling in high-grade talent. Saikat Chakrabarti is a formidable character, and he was smart enough to use a pretty young woman of color as his puppet. I’d bet on him over Hillary every time.

jim says:

Looking up his accomplishments as an engineer: Good engineer, but nothing out of the ordinary as engineers go. Web design is not where the smartest engineers go. Both of the companies where he operated in an important smart guy engineering role, accomplished nothing out of the ordinary, and were walking well trodden ground, treading it all over again and winding up nowhere in particular.

The first companies in those fields would have had actual smart guy engineers in smart guy roles. A “lets do the same thing again” company which proceeds to do the same thing again and fails to accomplish anything much does not. He had a smart guy job engineering job, a job that you seek to fill with a very smart guy, but the results of that job do not indicate a smart guy performing that job.

They were trying to produce a very ordinary me-too product, and did not succeed. Unambitious goals, and fell short of those goals.

Like Hillary, a lot smarter than the average leftist, but smarter than the average leftist is nothing to get excited about.

Karl says:

In the past, it worked for a bright, ambitious, hard-working, amoral, ruthless, perceptive young man to become a leftist in order to get ahead. It still works if that man is not interested in women, or non-white, or can otherwise claim to belong to a priviledged minority. For other men it stopped working.

Jim mentioned admission to Harvard that selects against bright men, but even outside of universities it is getting hard and mostly stopped working. Look at the leading candidates in Westerm politics. Any straight men are old. All others holding well paid offices are not straight white men.

Maybe it still works in the armed forces, but I doubt there will be many white straight men in any Western force above the rank of colonel in a few years.

The bright, perceptive, ruthless young men are starting to notice. Maybe they will still become leftists, but then it is merely done it to avoid prosecution, not to get ahead.

Starman says:

@Contaminated NEET

“What I mean is, the left has been winning for the last 150 years, minimum, and the right has been losing for all that time, over and over and over again.”

What’s up faggot. You don’t get to keep posting shit like this after Afghanistan and Ukraine (and eventually, Taiwan).

Now that short sighted kikes, wine aunts, and homos are the rulers… after the last Puritan holiness spiral handed the USG to them, the Real Cool Zone is inching closer.

Pete says:

“You don’t get to keep posting shit like this after Afghanistan and Ukraine (and eventually, Taiwan).”

What do you mean? The Left’s goal is the humiliation and destruction of white civilization, and America in particular. The loss in Afghanistan is a victory for the Left.

Ukraine was just an opportunity to launder $40 billion, which they successfully did. Placing Taiwan into the hands of the CCP will be another win for the Left.

alf says:

The Left’s goal is the humiliation and destruction of white civilization, and America in particular. The loss in Afghanistan is a victory for the Left.

Yes OK if we keep moving goalposts like that the left will always be winning. Let’s stick to their power relative to ours.

Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

You’re conflating the destruction of others with destruction of themselves.

Which is understandable; leftists do this to themselves all the time.

Contaminated NEET says:

>Afghanistan, Ukraine, Taiwan

Yeah, the Taliban beat the American Left, Putin beat them, and China has been running circles around them for decades. But you have never beaten them. Not once. I’m not saying they’re invincible in all things, I’m saying the American right does not have what it takes to beat them. Are they weaker and stupider than they used to be? Of course. But you still haven’t ever beaten them. Wait to chalk up a couple wins before getting so cocky.

jim says:

> But you have never beaten them. Not once. I’m not saying they’re invincible in all things, I’m saying the American right does not have what it takes to beat them.

Our talent runs rings around their talent. I read their stuff, and I read our stuff. They are stupid and ignorant. I check out their top scientists, (ITAR, Space Shuttle) their top economists (Word Bank, Fed) and so on and so forth. Dumb as posts and hilariously ignorant. Hillary Clinton is the cream of their crop. Almost any random rightist is a better rocket scientist than their top rocket scientists, a better economist than their top economists, a better general than their top generals, and a better political strategist than their top political strategists.

What we lack is a state apparatus: Caesar. Or backing from a state actor that allows us to operate a safe headquarters.

Karl says:

ITAR? What is that?

Did you mean ITER?

jim says:

Meant ITER.

ten says:

You can’t win a game where the other guy cheats and you at most delay and remind him that he agreed upon the rules.

You can’t win a conflict where the other guy seeks your destruction and you seek mutually agreeable peace.

The left can’t act without false pretense, because it is social entropy.

What do you expect?

jim says:

The time for non violent politics ended in the early hours of the morning after the 2020 election – to be precise, ended months before that, but until the morning there still arguments that the politics of compromise and coalition could continue.

The only way forward is Caesar. And we have no Caesar.

Yet.

Kunning Druegger says:

Dear Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner.

God most high, protect your servant Jim. Protect his followers, his friends, his family, and all true men who seek to serve You, to serve GNON, to conform themselves to the Natural Law You established.

God most high, reveal Yourself to all that seek truth, to the wanderers and the wayward, to the young and old dazzled by the bright lights and loud noises of this fallen world.

God most high, help me, strengthen me, give me the strength I need to not beg this cup to pass, to girt my loins, rise up, and be your imperfect instrument in a fallen world.

Dear God, I beg You to protect my children, protect my woman, protect my land, and to protect me.

God of all creation, Author and Finisher of all life, lend Your strength to the deserving and willing, strike down our enemies and any who stand before us. Put steel in our hands and ice in our hearts, that we may stand against the devil and his minions, that we may strike the scales from the eyes of the foolish and blind, that we may return to Your favor and reap the blessings You bestow.

Dear God, humble us, unite us, strengthen us, so that come what may, we will die with honor in our hearts and honesty on our lips, knowing that we did what we could, with what we had, when You called us to act in Your name.

Dear Lord Jesus Christ have mercy on me a sinner.

GNON’s will be done. In the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit, AMEN.

restitutor_orbis says:

Amen.

Globalist Power Terminated II says:

P-PRAISE GNON!

alf says:

Amen.

simplyconnected says:

Amen.

Neurotoxin says:

Amen.

A2 says:

I sense a certain lack of legitimacy in the system. With what’s going on, enjoy the exciting Election 2022.

A2 says:

Not a lot of steps left on the escalator after this.

A2 says:

Maniacs,

Red says:

The fallout from this is interesting. Cuckservitive frogs noticing that the pot is getting mighty hot, the GOP basically forced into accepting Trump as the 2024 nom (DeSantis is a moron for having signed off on this raid or at least not having state troopers there to tell the FBI to eat shit and get lost). Certainly going to fire up a lot of people to support Trump again despite him running away on J6.

Red says:

Of course the most the likely outcome is Trump’s arrested followed by committing suicide with 2 shots to the back of the head.

Ghost says:

Wrong! He may go to jail if caught in a perjury trap, or not. But they wouldn’t be so obvious. There are dozens of less obvious ways. Attacked by prisoner, death from covid, heart problems. Looks like they just want him out of the race for now.

Your back of the head comment is a little hyperbolic even for you.

Pete says:

These people are so arrogant, I expect them to put him in the exact same cell that Epstein died in, just to make it crystal clear that they can do anything they want to anyone they want.

Red says:

Poindexter.

Neurotoxin says:

“they wouldn’t be so obvious. There are dozens of less obvious ways. Attacked by prisoner, death from covid, heart problems… Your back of the head comment is a little hyperbolic even for you.”

In the sit-down in The Godfather, Vito Corleone says (from memory), “If any of my family get killed by being shot… or being hit by a car… or being struck by lightning… I’m going to hold some of the people in this room responsible.”

It doesn’t matter how Trump dies in jail – presumably the Deep State has drugs that make it look like a heart attack – we’ll know he was murdered.

Globalist Power Terminated II says:
Neurotoxin says:

Yikes. Weird timing that literally within the last week, three people were killed by lightning outside the White House.

Red says:

The narrative on the raid isn’t well coordinated and the bullshit they’re spewing on why the raid happened isn’t very convincing. They either did it on the spur of the moment or they decided not to form a narrative ahead of time to preserve secrecy. Not typical behavior by the left.

Kunning Druegger says:

I don’t know the veracity of this /pol/ claim, but apparently Andrew Cuomo is calling for the raid itself to be investigated. This seems strange. I don’t think there was a lot of consensus among Them to do this. I know this sounds kooky, but I keep coming back to the idea that this is “red on red” as in RINOs trying to get Trump off the board.

I want to apologize for the reckless faggotry I am about to type. Something about this whole thing, in light of the totality of the circumstances, has me running scared at a level to which I am unaccustomed. I am terrified that this will just slip by with no repercussions, but I am also terrified that someone, somewhere, will stand up, and we will be too divided, too scared to act, too jaded, too unsure of who our friends are, to pile on.

This is the core issue as I see it: when It starts, “everyone” has to go, maybe not in lock step or coordination, but the Response must be everywhere, across all state lines and demographics. If some governor, or mayor, nuts up and kicks the FBI out of their jurisdiction, every single dissident entity must pile on in support.

On the flip side, and I am aware that I am schizoposting here, the GAE got embarrassed by the Taliban, it got embarrassed by Russia, and Taiwan did not give them what they sought in terms of revalidation. The GAE needs a win, something that, real or perceived, threatens its primacy that is utterly vanquished. In their foolishness and hubris, is it possible that they think they can instigate some kind of domestic crisis that appears to be an existential challenge, that they feel confident they can put down? I personally believe the FBI and IC has a massive collection of names of people they deem domestic threats or potential domestic threats, but they cannot, or have not had the opportunity to, move on. Assuming this is true, or even close to true, could the feds be fabricating a cassus belli to begin a purge of society?

I know this probably seems like lunacy, as I am making contradictory statements. I guess I am just really frazzled and starting to jump at my own shadow.

Ghost says:

For me, the purpose of the raid seems clear. They want to do him up so that he’s politically neutralized. The easiest way the FBI does this is a perjury trap. They ask questions, then dig a little, ask more questions until the story contradicts. Most anyone can be undone this way.

My question is what set this off. I’ve stated my theory and reasons. But, there are other possibilities.

Will they eventually come for the average Trump voter. Well, you know that’s going to happen. On a long enough timescale.

On a side-note dogs make pretty good security alarms. Three even better.

Neurotoxin says:

“For me, the purpose of the raid seems clear. They want to do him up so that he’s politically neutralized.”

No, it’s not this. If Trump gets the 2024 GOP nomination, the left can just fraud him out of a victory again. They did it once and suffered no punishment. They don’t need to “neutralize” him.

Pooch says:

If Trump gets the 2024 GOP nomination, the left can just fraud him out of a victory again.

They don’t want to have to resort to that again. They burned massive amounts of credibility by printing infinite ballots. I hate to break to people, but the elite are not dumb. They aren’t insane. They are completely sane, rational, and intelligent.

Ideally, Trump will just not be in the race so they won’t have to worry about him.

Pooch says:

Ideally for them*

Neurotoxin says:

Short version:
Raiding his house is arguably a more blatant a violation of normality than frauding up a bunch of ballots.

Long version:

…And raiding an ex-President’s house and then putting him in prison, as I expect, is unprecedented. If they stop short of putting him in prison then maybe you have a point.

But if they can raid his home without consequences – which apparently they can – then they will put him in prison eventually. Recall the scene in The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe in which the evil army binds, degrades, and humiliates Aslan and the White Witch kills him. C.S. Lewis – a master practical psychologist in many ways – accurately portrays the hatred and fear that the evil have for the good. They cannot rest easy until good is destroyed.

I’m not saying Trump is Aslan (oy vey)… but such is the psychology of the left.

The Cominator says:

Pooch they HAVE TO keep doing it now, Biden doubling gas ala Jimmy Carter gives them no choice. There regime is massively unpopular outside of leftist Karens.

The elite if not insane… i wonder what their plan is.

Pooch says:

bruh…really?

Who cares about popularity? We are ruled by an entrenched oligarchic elite, NOT a democracy.

Their plan is obvious. Consolidate their power and wealth and control the masses. Seem to be doing a fine job of it.

Raising gas prices is part of that plan. They are creating an artificial incentive to get people off gas cars so they don’t have to drill up the country. Obviously I don’t agree with that, but from their perspective completely sane.

The Cominator says:

You are just spouting Moldbug slogans, they can’t do their gay little bug eating energy starving plan if enough hardcore anti administrative state people are elected.

Pooch says:

if enough hardcore anti administrative state people are elected.

Hate to be the bearer of bad news for ya but voting doesn’t matter.

The Cominator says:

Yes voting doesn’t matter because they’ll rig the votes, you however are saying they won’t rig them again which is insane.

Pooch says:

No I am saying they’ll rig them in state-wide races against the populist outsider Trump-endorsed candidates like Masters, Mastriano, etc who they view as a real threat to their power.

DeSantis riles up the left a little bit but ultimately is an insider and not a real threat to the power of the establishment, thus they will not rig all that hard against him.

The Cominator says:

Desantis had a Saul on the road to Damascus moment summer 2020 i hope they are foolish enough to let him in… but I’m not optimistic.

Adam says:

> Raising gas prices is part of that plan. They are creating an artificial incentive to get people off gas cars so they don’t have to drill up the country.

How’s that? Priests don’t run drill rigs. And they are not just getting people off of gas cars, eventually it will be all cars. It’s climate demon worship start to finish. Energy production will only be for the elite.

Doom says:

The reason for the “gas crisis” is that the elites hate the proles. Hate seeing them. Don’t want them around.

And you can cheaply buy a car, and cheaply go wherever you want.

You can’t just genocide people you don’t like easily but you can sure restrict their movement, see : lockdown.

Aidan says:

Com is somewhat right- electoral resistance to bug-box-bike communism applies a minor braking effect to that plan. Demonstrated by the fact that Europe is a good bit further down that road than we are.

It’s not nearly enough, and has no hope of reversing it, but it has slowed it down. It slows it down not because of the votes, but because of the guns in the closets of the white men voting. The potential for violence makes our elite crap their pants.

The Cominator says:

In America the braking beyond a certain point (it was minor for the most part but when it came to abolishing gas and eating the bugs) would not have been minor but for them rigging the election outright and blatantly…

Pooch says:

Will they eventually come for the average Trump voter. Well, you know that’s going to happen. On a long enough timescale.

Nah they won’t. Just don’t go to any stupid rallies or other such nonsense like J6. They are perfectly fine just genociding the middle class the soft way they are doing now through divorce, feminism, gay, trans, no jobs, etc

jim says:

> Nah they won’t.

Normality bias. If holiness spiral is not ended it goes all the way to killing everyone.

Murdering everyone who looks like a Trump voter is a fair way down the road, but that is the road we are headed dowwn faster and faster.

Chances are that before we get there, Stalin or Hitler puts an end to holiness spiral, but at is far from certain.

Gedeon says:

I was in a grocery store recently, shorts and fitted shirt, with my toddler daughter. I wasn’t inside five minutes before I caught a 6’5ish black male pretending to be shopping and shadowing me around the store. I looked him in the eyes and gave him a nod and he walked off and I did the same when I saw him a few minutes later. What came next cracked me up as my daughter was now riding on my shoulders, but a white guy securitas rent a cop walked by me with body armor on. I gave him the same nod and the next time I saw him and he was all shifty and nervous.

What I decided in the store was that some woke faggot behind the camera was triggered by my small messenger bag style diaper bag and was trying to flex on me. They are insane people and cannot even fathom a father’s care for his daughter and wanted to believe in all of my toxic masculinity that I was a threat to them.

All it takes to make them shrink into their corner is brief eye contact and a nod for the more daring. On the other side of this experience, I assume there are private databases being constructed to do the eventual denial of services much third party fact checkers to social media. Rent a cops are low wage larpers, so you can smile with ridicule at them.

Dr. Faust says:

Arrests are the next logical step. Then suicide. Every failure justifies escalation. It concludes with mass execution and a reset of power to a more tenable model or everyone killing everyone.

Crazy is easy to predict what but hard to predict when. If we shine awareness on the next steps we embolden people when the web of lies is cast.

The Cominator says:

Perhaps one faction trying to force the hand of another.

Red says:

This looks like a naked display of power:

Republican Rep. Scott Perry tells Fox the FBI took his phone at the airport today:
https://twitter.com/kaitlancollins/status/1557127964982132739?cxt=HHwWhoCy6crog5wrAAAA

J6 committee stuff probably what the FBI raid was about.

Mass arrests likely to come later for conspiracy to overturn an election or some such garbage. @Com, I’d say your right about the near certainty that Trump will be arrested.

Red says:

Sounds right on the money:
https://twitter.com/Breck_Worsham/status/1557082738825601029

Meanwhile in DC….A deal has been quietly made within the last 24 hours between the RINO GOP Elite and the man who should have been most vocal in his support of Trump and against the fed raid but wasn’t.

The raid only happened because DeSantis allowed them to happen.

The Cominator says:

DeSantis could only stop it by ordering national guard guys to shoot the FBI, this is BS. Desantis denounced the raid immediately.

Red says:

The raid had Florida cops assisting the FBI. He could have had them tell the FBI to pound sand.

The Cominator says:

Staties or palm beach? Desantis doesn’t have direct control over palm beach also Trump himself held off mouthing off about the raid to keep angry rednecks from gathering early…

Red says:

Go check out sundance’s twitter feed:
https://twitter.com/TheLastRefuge2

He has a post tweet on it. Looked like staties based on the car picks.

Red says:

Found it looks like PBCO cops:
https://twitter.com/4AllSoulKind/status/1556873822413930496?cxt=HHwWgICykcWfkJsrAAAA

I’m not sure how the county cops work in Florida.

The Cominator says:

Desantis does not have day to day direct control over them, he can try to remove officials for misconduct illegal activity etc. As he did the Tampa DA.

Pooch says:

For what it’s worth, Sundance seems to think DeSantis using his personal Twitter instead of his official press release to condemn the raid is telling.

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2022/08/08/as-a-citizen-of-florida-ron-desantis-calls-fbi-mar-a-lago-raid-another-escalation/

Pooch says:

From a Machiavellian stand point, DeSantis has every incentive to facilitate Trump getting barred from running and/or arrested.

With Trump out of the way, he has a cake walk to the White House.

Red says:

With Trump out of the way, he has a cake walk to the White House.

With Trump is jail and probably soon after dead, DeSantis will soon find himself in jail for the crime losing a rigged presidential election.

These sort of actions remind me of what was done to the Canadian Truckers and Dutch Farmers. No strong narrative for people to hang their hats on, just raw in your face force from the state crushing all opposition.

Neurotoxin says:

For fuck’s sake. He may have a cakewalk to the Republican nomination, but to the White House?

Cut it out.

Pooch says:

They won’t as aggressively rig against DeSantis as they did with Trump. DeSantis is just not that hated by the elite. He’s one of them (he’s a Harvard lawyer for fuck sake), even if he leans heavily into Trumpist populism.

If I bring up DeSantis’s name to upper crusty liberals I get blank stares. If I bring up Trump’s name I get instant shrieking and derangement. There is no such thing as DeSantis Derangement Syndrome.

The Cominator says:

Yet…

Also DeSantis couldn’t have stopped this raid (other than immediately starting a hot civil war) this is a stupid idea and needs to die.

Neurotoxin says:

“They won’t as aggressively rig against DeSantis as they did with Trump.”

To coin a phrase: Nuts.

“There is no such thing as DeSantis Derangement Syndrome.”

That’s because he’s not the GOP candidate for President! There WILL be DeSantis Derangement Syndrome if he gets the GOP nod for 2024. The left wigged out about Mitt Romney in 2012, for God’s sake.

The Cominator says:

If they don’t want Trump becoming president again they REALLY won’t let DeSantis get in… not without violence.

Pooch says:

The left wigged out about Mitt Romney in 2012, for God’s sake.

And the left will wig out about DeSantis in 2024.

The BIG difference with Trump was that he was and continues to be hated by the entire Establishment right Bush/McConnell/National Review types either overtly or covertly in way DeSantis is not and cannot.

yewotm8 says:

And you really don’t think they could generate DeSantis Derangement Syndrome in those same people given an entire general election cycle? Trump was less hated in early 2015 than DeSantis is right now.

Neurotoxin says:

“The BIG difference with Trump was that he was and continues to be hated by the entire Establishment right Bush/McConnell/National Review types either overtly or covertly in way DeSantis is not and cannot.”

If DeSantis is even 67% as based as many here seem to think, the left will absolutely commit fraud to keep him out of the White House. One, because the Trump episode scared them. Two, because the holiness spiral proceeds. Three, because they took (what seemed like) a risk in committing massive fraud in 2020 and they totally got away with it. They are not deterrable on fraud any more.

Neurotoxin says:

yewotm8: “And you really don’t think they could generate DeSantis Derangement Syndrome in those same people given an entire general election cycle?”

Bingo.

Kunning Druegger says:

We should take it as a given that the Cathedral will doctor any and all election results and that no one will be “elected” that isn’t controlled opposition or explicitly in bed with the Cathedral. So it is irrelevant as to how they will be treated by media and intelligentsia. What matters is their messaging, their financial backers, and their promises about how they will act if/when their elections are stolen. Anyone who advocates “trusting the process” or abiding by the outcomes, for whatever reason, is unworthy, period. Candidates who build coalitions, shun fags and feminists, and embrace patriarchy should be supported, as the campaign coalitions and ad hoc organizations are merely a front for organizing militias and free companies.

Electoral politics are a façade. Campaigns are an excuse to organize. The only thing that matters is ideological signaling.

Neurotoxin says:

“Campaigns are an excuse to organize.”

Hmm.

Kunning Drueger says:

Did nothing to stop it, then denounced it is not a good look. Maybe he was snookered into it. St. Anglin says Desantis is a tool of the RNC. That’s a damning indictment from a truly verified Jimian Christian.

Desantis must pass a purity test, the question is how. I hate this because I had really started to like the guy, but it seems pretty stark now: if he’s/ourguy/ he will back Trump 100% and take steps to preclude a repeat within his fief. Anything less, and the onus is on his supporters to explain how he isn’t taking advantage of character assassination to propel himself higher.

God fucking dammit. Is every conservative elite a grift-winger?

Red says:

St. Anglin says Desantis is a tool of the RNC.

Yesterday morning I would have said Anglin was full of it, but today I think he’s probably right.

The whole reason Trump settled in Florida was a strong GOP governor who wouldn’t let this sort of bullshit fly. DeSantis is a master of using the bureaucracy to gum up the left and he utterly failed to do so here.

The Cominator says:

Other than going straight to hot civil war he couldn’t have done anything.

Kunning Druegger says:

I reject this. I think, if he actually wanted to do something, he could have made some kind of move. At this point, and it should be pointed out that this situation is unfolding and not concluded (the revelations about the magistrate that signed the warrant are… revelatory, to say the least), Desantis is looking incompetent at best, weak most likely, and complicit at worst. All is not lost, he can get out in front of this and signal his loyalty to the Amerikaner General, but he could also do nothing and act as if his hands are tied. How he conducts himself and his regime in the next few weeks is critical.

The Cominator says:

On what basis do you reject it, how is DeSantis supposed to quash a federal warrant?

Kunning Druegger says:

See my post to the GP; his statement seems fery weak compared to both Kari Lake and Anthony Sabatini.

The Cominator says:

He condemned it immediately he didn’t wait 24 hours and then say explain yourselves ala McConnell.

Kunning Druegger says:

Points for timing, but not many due to tepid content. Let’s be clear here, Com: Desantis may be /ourguy/, and he may be a cuck in conservative’s cloth, but neither is a reflection on you. I’m sure you know that, I just wanted it to be clear that we are looking at him based on his positions, actions, and words, we are not indicting you, or any brother here, based on what we see.

The Cominator says:

He speaks softly and acts ruthlessly. I like that. There is nothing beyond immediately starting a hot civil war he could do to stop the feds raiding Mar a Lago absolutely nothing.

Kunning Druegger says:

Well, I disagree, but I also accept that hindsight bias may be the predicate for my position. FWIW, I too like how he operates, as well I think he has made great strides in getting FLA on track for coming out of balkanization in a sound and productive way.

I guess I’m just gun shy after being wrong on Pence and Barr. Pence was milquetoast but Barr ticked all the boxes I thought important. Hindsight shows that I saw what I wanted to see and ignored what needed to be seen. I don’t think those two were set-in-stone traitors; they, and others, could have acted differently, could have taken the opportunity granted by GNON and sacrificed themselves to begin the process of forging a new America. Instead, they sacrificed their principles and honor to maintain the status quo.

We all look at Trump as a coward who went fishing in the Rubicon, and this is fair, in my estimation. But unlike all the careerists in the RNC, all the civil servants who can’t go 5 minutes without receiving a back-pat for their service, he was just a humble real estate man with a dream for an America returned to the glory he experienced in his youth. I don’t think he ever really saw the whole picture until January 19th 2021, and maybe he still hasn’t realized what’s happening. He is a merchant, nothing less and nothing more.

Desantis is a lawyer, a leader of men, and a Christian. He has no excuse, particularly in light of his Damascus Road moment, to pretend the RNC is Good, or that this isn’t is a moment of national existential crisis. I expect better of him, indeed I think we all should. GNON give him eyes to see, ears to hear, and warriors to command.

Red says:

Desantis is a lawyer, a leader of men, and a Christian. He has no excuse, particularly in light of his Damascus Road moment, to pretend the RNC is Good, or that this isn’t is a moment of national existential crisis. I expect better of him, indeed I think we all should. GNON give him eyes to see, ears to hear, and warriors to command.

KD, that’s fucking beautiful.

The Cominator says:

What exactly would you have him do differently he said it was political bullshit?

Red says:

What exactly would you have him do differently he said it was political bullshit?

Kick the FBI out after opening the safe. They spent 10+ hours in Trump’s private rooms with Trump’s lawyer not being allowed to watch them or even get a copy of the warrant. Use some law fare on the feds.

Kunning Druegger says:

Honestly Com, start the hot boog. At this point, what good is kicking the can down the road? At the very least, his statements should have been at least as vociferous as Lake’s and Sabatini’s, but that’s window dressing. At some point, to be truly based, governors need to throw the gauntlet. What else needs to happen to positively affect the situation? The stage is set, the curtain is raised, we are only waiting for the play to begin. Desantis had the opportunity today to utter the only line we should be hearing from real Christian elite leaders: “Thus far we’ve come, and no further will we go; the dream is dead, and the war has begun. You have pushed us to this point, and now you shall reap the whirlwind.”

Kunning Druegger says:

Here’s the content of the linked [1] article:

“Florida Governor Ron DeSantis doesn’t use his official office account to release a statement on the FBI raid in Mar-a-Lago, that likely required a joint cooperative task force response from the state, as customary for fulfilment of a federal warrant upon a Florida citizen. Instead, Florida Governor DeSantis issues a tweet from his personal account noting the action was yet ‘another escalation in the weaponization of federal agencies.’ Oh well, that’s a relief, heavy sigh, as long as it’s just ‘another escalation’…

TWEET {The raid of MAL is another escalation in the weaponization of federal agencies against the Regime’s political opponents, while people like Hunter Biden get treated with kid gloves. Now the regime is getting another 87k IRS agents to wield against its adversaries? Banana Republic.}

“Quick pivot right to the whataboutism politics DC is famous for… “while people like Hunter Biden get treated with kid gloves”, and “IRS agents,” etc.

You see, this is what DC does to bang the pots and pans loudly in the UniParty kitchen. As a congressional representative, Ron DeSantis learned the chaff and countermeasures well. Actually challenge the federal government? No way. Not gonna happen.

Meanwhile, compare the response from future Arizona Governor Kari Lake:

STATEMENT {This is one of the darkest days in American history: the day our Government, originally created by the people, turned against us. This illegitimate, corrupt Regime hates America and has weaponized the entirety of the federal government to take down President Donald Trump. *Our Government is rotten to the core.* These tyrants will stop at nothing to silence the Patriots who are working hard to save America. This is an incredibly horrendous abuse of power. If we accept it, America is dead. *We will not accept it.* The 10th Amedment can and will save our Republic and the road to stripping the Feds of power travels right through Arizona. *We must fire the Federal Government.* As Governor I will fight these Tyrants with every fiber of my being. America-dark days lie ahead for us. May God protect us and save our Country.}

“Keep in mind, the personal account of Ron DeSantis could say anything he wants. Again, for reasons known to political followers, DeSantis chose not using the FL Gov Twitter account for his response to an FBI raid that happened in his state…. that used his joint cooperation task force to execute.

Times of consequence provide insights into strength of leadership. Or as Ron DeSantis would say “another escalation” amid a lot of escalations that have yet to reach a line where ‘escalations‘ are no longer accepted; at least not for him. Someone with political ambitions generally draws those lines in a much different place than the regular people impacted by the escalations the professional political class like to bang their pots loudly about.

“If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen.” ~ Sam Adams

State Representative Anthony Sabatini from Florida district 32 seems to understand the dynamic that changed today.”

TWEET {It is time for us in the Florida Legislature to call an emergency legislative session & amend our laws regarding federal agencies[.] Sever all ties with DOJ immediately[.] Any FBI agent conducting law enforcement functions outside the purview of our State should be arrested on sight}
END OF ARTICLE

How is it the so-thought based Desantis is coming off as a tepid little daisy compared to a lady-Governor and a state senator? If he is not in bed with the RINOs, if he is not taking on the role of Brutus, what logic or strategy is behind his handling of this ongoing and growing fiasco?

[1]https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2022/08/08/as-a-citizen-of-florida-ron-desantis-calls-fbi-mar-a-lago-raid-another-escalation/

stop whining says:

Who the fuck CAAAAAAARES?

OrangeManBad had his chance. He spent four years running his mouth and making the most boneheaded possible personnel decisions. He ignored, neglected, or just outright failed on nearly all his key electoral promises. When the crisis came – a crisis all sorts of people could see coming before he ever got into office – he handled it like a total dumbass: he told a crowd of a hundred thousand to march on the Capitol, then HE, the leader, abandoned the men who’d showed up to follow him. Instead he went home and watched the whole thing on TV while complaining they made him look bad. Then when they got in deep shit for doing what HE told them to do, he didn’t lift a finger.

This is a man who has never lifted a finger to help anybody who sticks their neck out for him.

Presidential pardons are the one thing completely in his power that he can do without anybody gainsaying him. He could have used them in any number of situations prior to Jan6 and didn’t. After J6 they were the one thing he could still do effectively. He didn’t.

For four years he was – supposedly – the number one top head guy, in charge of the guy in charge of the FBI. If the FBI was operating in a disreputable fashion (spoiler: it was), he was the guy in a position to do something about it. He didn’t.

THIS IS HIS OWN FUCKING FAULT AND ABSOLUTELY NOBODY OWES HIM ANYTHING.

He had his chance, he blew it, he’s done. Move on, find more capable people and lines of argument. As a wrecking ball, fine, it was fun. But playing impotent blowhard on national TV for four years running doesn’t accomplish anything useful and it’s time to try something else.

London Guy says:

Jim said: “Rape in the modern sense is not a meaningful category for deciding what is legal or illegal.”

The nigger janitor at your 13-year-old’s school drags her into a storage room, rapes and impregnates her. Should she or should she not be forced to have the nigger’s kid? Simple question.

jim says:

How come she was somewhere alone where a nigger janitor could walk up to her? If he could “rape” he so could any guy. If a thirteen year old is permitted to wander where she pleases, she is going to be pleased to wander where someone can “rape” her. It is not the janitor that is the problem, it is the thirteen year old girl unsupervised. One pin can pop any number of baloons. We need balloon control, not pin control.

Adam says:

Exactly. First story in the Bible. Females cannot be left unattended. If not in the henhouse, must be with a suitable male escort at all times.

Also grandmothers of a later age can make for good escorts in some circumstances.

chris says:

“One pin can pop any number of baloons. We need balloon control, not pin control.”

I always liked this analogy,

A tribe of 100 men and 100 women. You control the sexuality of 1 man and 99 women. You get 1 single mother. You control the sexuality of 99 men and 1 woman. You get 99 single mothers. That’s why it’s more important to control women’s sexuality than men’s sexuality.

It gets to the heart of the different consequences in reproduction between the sexes.

Kunning Druegger says:

Starting a new thread for clarity’s sake. I think we should do a Square 0 case study of Governor Desantis. We all have opinions on the man, and the situation ongoing is in a state of flux. Keeping my failures in front of me, we dropped the ball on Pence, but that’s mail in ballots under the folding table at this point, so I think we should build up a profile of the man from OSINT or any other data we can collect.

Here’s the wikipedia info:

“DeSantis was born on September 14, 1978, in Jacksonville, Florida, the son of Karen (née Rogers) and Ronald Daniel DeSantis.[1] He is of Italian descent, with all of his great-grandparents born in Italy.[2] His maternal great-great-grandfather Salvatore Storti immigrated to the United States from Italy in 1904, eventually settling in Pennsylvania. His great-great-grandmother Luigia Colucci joined her husband in the United States in 1917.[3] DeSantis’s mother was a nurse and his father installed Nielsen TV rating boxes.[4] His family moved to Orlando, Florida, before relocating to Dunedin, Florida, when he was six years old.[5] His sister Christina Marie DeSantis was born on May 5, 1985, in Orlando and died in 2015.[6] He was a member of the Little League team from Dunedin National that made it to the 1991 Little League World Series in Williamsport, Pennsylvania.[7][8] DeSantis attended Our Lady of Lourdes Catholic School and Dunedin High School,[4] graduating in 1997.

After high school, DeSantis studied history at Yale University. He was captain of Yale’s varsity baseball team and joined the Delta Kappa Epsilon fraternity.[8][9] He was an outfielder on the Yale baseball team; as a senior in 2001, he had the team’s best batting average at .336.[10][11][12][13] While attending Yale he worked a variety of jobs, including an electrician’s assistant and a baseball camp coach.[4] DeSantis graduated from Yale in 2001 with a B.A. magna cum laude.[14] After spending a year as a history teacher at the Darlington School,[15] he attended Harvard Law School, graduating in 2005 with a Juris Doctor cum laude.[16][17]”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ron_DeSantis

Here’s the bio info from his political website:

“Ron DeSantis is the 46th Governor of Florida.

A native Floridian with blue-collar roots, Ron attended Dunedin High School and worked his way through Yale University, where he graduated with honors and was the captain of the varsity baseball team. He also graduated with honors from Harvard Law School. While at Harvard, he earned a commission in the U.S. Navy as a JAG officer. During his active-duty service, Ron deployed to Iraq as an adviser to a U.S. Navy SEAL commander in support of the SEAL mission in Fallujah, Ramadi and the rest of Al Anbar province. His military decorations include the Bronze Star Medal for Meritorious Service and the Iraq Campaign Medal.

Ron also served as a federal prosecutor, where he targeted and convicted child predators. He was elected to Congress in 2012 and advocated for congressional term limits and a balanced budget amendment. He also spearheaded oversight efforts to expose malfeasance in the IRS and in agencies involved in abusing their authority during the manufacturing of the Russia collusion conspiracy theory. Congressman DeSantis was also a leading champion for America’s veterans and helped enact reforms to the VA and place an emphasis on mental health.

Ron is married to Casey DeSantis, an Emmy Award winning television host. Together, they’re the proud parents of their daughters, Madison and Mamie, and their son, Mason”
https://rondesantis.com/meet-ron/

Here’s some excerpts from his Ballotpedia page ( I was going to copypasta the whole thing, but there was so much and I didn’t want to shit up the board… any more than I already do, eh wot?):

Campaign contributions in 2016:

Total Raised $4,678,388
Total Spent $3,657,150
Total Raised by Election Runner-up $41,250
Total Spent by Election Runner-up $42,518
Top contributors to Ron DeSantis’ congressional history’s campaign committee
Club for Growth $294,015
Senate Conservatives Fund $87,472
Brown & Brown Insurance $30,800
Island Doctors $27,600
Total Military Management $21,600
Top 5 industries that contributed to campaign committee
Retired $798,359
Republican/Conservative $688,442
Securities & Investment $273,340
Real Estate $190,246
Misc Finance $120,910

Campaign contributions 2014:

Total Raised $1,110,622
Total Spent $429,687
Total Raised by Election Runner-up $38,479
Total Spent by Election Runner-up $37,892
Top contributors to Ron DeSantis’ congressional history’s campaign committee
Brown & Brown Insurance $19,650
Holland & Knight $15,250
Island Doctors $14,800
ICI Homes $13,000
NASCAR $11,650
Top 5 industries that contributed to campaign committee
Retired $95,325
Insurance $83,650
TV/Movies/Music $60,500
Health Professionals $52,500
Lawyers/Law Firms $47,802
https://ballotpedia.org/Ron_DeSantis%27_congressional_history

From a cursory review of these sites, I would say there’s a real risk that he has been ensnared by the GOP status quo, but I have not found anything, yet, that decisively indicates that he’s a RINO sleeper. Let’s do our due diligence on this one. I like the guy, I desperately crave a leader worthy of our loyalty and blood, but we should put in the effort to find out, lest we get blindsided, yet again, by another McChristian who will sacrifice his honor and principles for a seat at the table or to maintain the status quo.

Red says:

I’m not good at reading people but I really like DeSantis. He’s got potential to be less insane religious ruler, though maybe not a king.

The big problem with DeSantis is limited Charisma. He’d make a great VP or prime minister to a ruler but he doesn’t have the sort of magic with men to follow him into battle as far as I can tell. But when you choices of men to follow is jack shit and trannies, sign me up for DeSantis.

My problem is people who are controlled opposition like Cernovich are pushing him and most of the hostility against DeSantis by the Polygon is of the sort that seems like they want us to think they hate and fear him more than Trump, which is obvious bullshit.

Sundance who was first into the tank for Trump and the guy who got it right with Barr and Pence(He’s a midwit and sometimes goes off into nonsense, but he’s got a good track record on reading people) is sending up warning flares about DeSantis being a RINO. I want to believe Com’s idea that DeSantis had a road to Damascus moment and would come into office and save the country from disaster, much as he’s done in Florida. So I’m conflicted about it.

Jim what’s your take on DeSantis?

Ghost says:

Too early for me. Desantis may be the only option though going forward. There are positions that line up. Christian, citizens rights, family man, etc…

My read on him is he is connected. No stranger to the political game. He was a JAG lawyer (prosecutor) for Navy. Legal counsel at Gitmo during the Bush years then legal counsel for Special Forces in 2007. Not the kind of legal advice for the squeamish.

Then there’s the trip to Israel off the bat as Governor.

His political rival for Governor had FBI problems too among other things. Not enough to make a pattern but noteworthy.

I’m not ready to switch. Trump might pull through yet.

Ghost says:

Most of what a JAG lawyer does is pretty mundane. Providing legal advice to Commanders on things like DUIs, failure to follow orders or meet standards. It’s mostly paper pushing.

But, at Gitmo he may have made some pretty powerful connections.

Gedeon says:

His wife is a Schwartz.

Wulfgar Thundercock III says:

Women do not have a tribe. Even the Tribe.

Gedeon says:

Orthodox judaism traces levitical content via the matrilineal line.

Anyone with a Jewish mother is irrevocably Jewish, so no one GAF about the internal plank that women do not have a tribe because they do as long as that value is just limited to a blog’s comments.

Wulfgar Thundercock III says:

Jews might count Jewish blood through the female line, but everyone sane does it through the male line, because women do not have inherent loyalty to a group. Say I found a Jewish girl who was still a virgin, fucked her, knocked her up, and married her. She would end up going to church with me and converting to Christianity, and my children would be raised Christian, no matter what her parents thought about the matter. When a woman is fucking a man in a strong tribe, that is her tribe. If his wife is Jewish, it is either because he permits it or because he is weak.

The Cominator says:

What is your source that Casey DeSantis (maiden name is Black… if her name was “Green” I’d say you’re right) is a Schwartz? She is from some methtown in Ohio originally. Non of the anti-DeSantis shills on 4chan have ever brought this up, if it were true they’d make a big deal of it.

Gedeon says:

A Florida Governor is no more a diplomatic post than is the SOTH who is ostensibly the bogietits of the PLA for visiting Taiwan. I have carefully observed and tested for several years who slides the conversations about jewish power here and you are numero uno, of course it does not reflect positively on our host when he deletes simple posts with the following link either:

https://unlimitedhangout.com/2022/08/investigative-reports/leslie-wexners-young-global-leaders/

I have been a student of etymology and linguistics for a long time. Names are one of the most important things people have and for society to use. I know of many Blacks and they are all Schwartz.

US House District 6, 2016 – Desantis’ top contributor:
Club for Growth: $294,015
Club for Growth founded 1999 – Richard Gilder
Gilder = Soros
Club For Growth = Pat Toomey, impeachment traitor

Take your pick of the think tanks, they are ALL jewish controlled. The post-WW2 era is government by NGO, notably the UN, which was established as the forum to harmonize it all among sovereign governments.

It takes a liar or a truly obtuse person not to scrutinize the current global government which is in no uncertain terms jewish.

jim says:

Think tanks are not power. Power is power. When capitalists are summoned to listen to the priests at the WEF, power is on display. It is disproportionately Jewish, but it is not “the Jews”

When the state department was pushing color revolution all over the place, leading to the Syrian war, the Libyan war, and now the Ukraine war, power was on display. Victoria Nulan, Jewish, appointed the Ukrainian government, also Jewish. But most of the color revolution governments were not particularly Jewish. They were more Hunter Biden types. It was not the Jewish tribe on display in the color revolutions and the Haiti earthquake relief, it is the woke carryon bagger tribe. Similarly the self cancellation of Russian entryists following the Ukraine war. In the flight of entryists from Russia, the carryonbagger tribe was on display.

Pax Imperialis says:

“Often used someone else’s story to tell their own”

Horrible antisemitism at Genesis Prize Foundation where they insinuates a Jewish cabal has historically subverted American entertainment. Except I’m joking…

The Genesis Prize Foundation is an Israeli organization in partnership with the Jewish Agency for Israel, itself a branch of the World Zionist Organization.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=auEsD3GNXQA

The brave Freikorps save Germany from communist insurrection. Except the clip is from an East German propaganda film exulting the life of German socialist Karl Liebknecht, a direct descendant of Martin Luther.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gxQn10UYGE

I’ve always found leftist propaganda interesting. Yesterday’s propaganda has an uncanny tendency to be repurposed by the right in ways the original propagandists never imagined. Really now, who could have predicted that some Chinese speaking Wehraboo would have dug up a communist 1972 movie and some obscure song like ‘Freikorps voran’ to make a music video celebrating killing communists?

Contrast with rightist propaganda/memes. Old Imperial Japanese/German/etc propaganda tends not to be repurposed by the left for leftist purposes. Nearly all political memes come from 4chan or similar. The left can’t meme the right exclaims!

This is worrying. In order to repurpose/subvert propaganda (what most memes are doing), one must first consume the hostile propaganda, understand it, but not believe it. Not believing is a major bottleneck in the process as the human mind is geared towards trust. Thus the right is certainly consuming and understanding left propaganda in mass with a (hopefully sizable) segment not believing. The likely reason why the leftists can’t meme is that they don’t consume and/or understand rightist propaganda in the first place meaning the propaganda has completely failed in its purpose.

Conceptualizations thus flow left to right. “Cthulhu may swim slowly. But he only swims left.” Right wing propaganda/memeing is mostly a tool to recognizing/organize fellow regime dissidents and not to push right wing ideas into the left. That is understandable since that is like trying to push water uphill. Power flows down and not up whereas the right is very much not on the top of the hill.

The left doesn’t meme Alex Jones because they don’t listen to and/or understand him in the first place. The right can meme Cenk Uygur because they do and are thus asymmetrically running the risk of getting infected with information viruses.

The right can’t make the left consume their propaganda because they are not in power. The next best thing the right can do is cut off the information virus flow from the left into the right.

Homeschooling, not school choice, has to be a top priority.

alf says:

In the past decade we have been turning the tables. Memes like gigachad, yes guy, pepe and wojak are all rightist memes. The left tries to repurpose them, fails hilariously.

Which does not mean there is plenty room for improvement. We have been doing a lot of great memeing from this place. Mostly text based though. Expressions like ‘a woman will crawl nine miles over broken glass to get to her demon lover’, ‘no nation with pride parades wins a war’, that sort of thing.

But in order to achieve maximum meme penetration, need to be much more encompassing. Visual memes, music, film, stunts, that sort of thing. Some of the resources the left has, we simply don’t, so no big budget movies (lucky for us the left is producing absolute shit movies). But the visual memes, yes, the right is good at that. Is 4chan still memeing? I feel like it is not impossible to produce open source code that would solve the problem of shills in anonymous image boards — Jim previously posted an answer to that, in which anons can choose which other anons they want to see and which they want to block.

The next best thing the right can do is cut off the information virus flow from the left into the right.

If all the cool people are ridiculing tv, not reading newspapers, avoiding soy-cial media and homeschooling their kids, well… Fashion spreads…

Karl says:

Forcing people to watch tv or read newspapers is difficult, but forcing people to send their children to public schools isn’t.

I don’t think homeschooling will be an option much longer, certainly not if it starts becoming popular.

alf says:

In Europe, no better way to find out how ”voluntary” public school is than when you refuse public school.

Still, even if they make it harder than it already is, I predict they lack the coordination to stop it. Child services is already swamped with kidnapping children as is, I imagine they’ll find kidnapping the children of homeschooling families to be above their paygrade.

Karl says:

They have done it in Germany

alf says:

I was unaware. How depressing.

The Cominator says:

They never had to actually pass the law in Germany, Germany’s ban on homeschooling was enacted by… Adolf Hitler. Unlike all of Hitler’s other laws… they just didn’t repeal that one.

alf says:

Lmao. Typical.

S.J., Esquire says:

“I predict they lack the coordination to stop it.”

Yup. “Becoming” popular? Dude it already is popular, and yes, they want to shut it down but as with a number of other things I could name they’re too little too late, the window for shutting it down is closing fast. Best they’ll do is, in some jurisdictions, mandate greater control over what you teach at home.

As a homeschool family we get questions all the time from other interested parents, the nonsense of the pandemic opened a lot of people’s eyes to the dysfunction of normal “school”.

Germany is an aberration, the history of Nazism makes them exceptional.

Pax Imperialis says:

School choice movement will likely be remembered as a mistake. Lots of energy and effort put into giving parents “options” between regime compliant school and the other regime compliant school. A false choice.

Had the right focused on facilitating homeschooling, apprenticeship, and small community Bible study style learning, we would be in a far better position today. It wouldn’t just be popular, it might have been a near majority plurality.

Pax Imperialis says:

It doesn’t seem like what I was trying to communicate entirely got across. Entirely my fault. Highly sleep deprived when I wrote prior post. Not much better at the moment. Hopefully this does better.

When propaganda is repurposed it is at some level working on the same a priori assumptions. There is a shared world view. They belong to the same ontology. It’s why it’s so easy for the right to go grab some defunct leftist regime propaganda and repurpose it for the here and now. But right wing propaganda from the long dead right wing regimes do not share any a priori assumptions or world view with the modern regimes. They are a completely different set of ontology. Thus it’s completely foreign and alien to leftists to such a degree they can’t repurpose it for it has no meaning to them other than it’s foreignness and thus evilness.

Gigachad, yes guy, pepe, and wojak are not inherently right wing. “Right wing” memes generally come from a reaction to regime failures from within the regime. Thus they operate in the same ontology of modern left wing ideology (nihilism and might makes right) much in the same way that “3.6 roentgen, not great, not terrible” meme is a reaction to the failure of the Soviet regime but not as a rejection of communist ideology. Those memes largely require that you have at least somewhat bought into modernity, a post religious/Christian, post meaning world view. That is not to say that most aspects of these memes are wrong, but it does mean one’s soul is still partially trapped within the regime.

-The modern left world view is Star Trek, Star Wars, Harry Potter.
-The traditional western right world view is the Bible.
-The modern right world view is nostalgic Star Trek, nostalgic but ridiculed Star Wars, and Harry Potter hasn’t been fully absorbed yet.

Communists did not destroy the old regimes with ironic, nostalgic, but ridiculed Bible. They destroyed it by getting rid of the Bible in it’s entirety. The modern right operating on the same world view as the modern left is not going to destroy a modern regime.

As such the tables are not getting turned. Regime dissidents are shrinking by relative size of population. Talk with Gen Z kids. It’s downright depressing. What is happening is that dissidents are more and more easily recognizable to both themselves and the regime as dissidents. Dissidents are not cool or fashionable. Gen Z dissidents are getting brutalized by social pressures and is the leading cause to why so many are going lgbt in an effort to signal regime solidarity.

That’s how you get greater dissident activity from a decreasing segment. Fear is strong, but so is the RESENTMENT. The bright side is that you get much higher in group cohesion among dissidents as a result and it often doesn’t take a majority to jam up regimes. A really really dedicated minority can do a lot of damage.

Spend time among isolated communities largely outside the reach of regime power and you’ll find that their memes operate on an entirely different world view than that of the regime or the modern right. They speak not of gigachads or pepes but of God fearing men.

Being anti regime or post regime is not enough as both imply continuity with modernity. Complete divorce is needed. Complete overhaul is desperately required for survival. We do not want to go from one communist regime to the next communist regime. We want something that is entirely not communist in it’s totality. BAP provides a model in it’s infancy. Jimian Christian provides another. Which one will win out will depend on the vitality of what’s left of Christianity.

Homeschooling, that transitions to small community based studies (like Bible studies among close kin and trusted folk), is the path that the right needs to embark upon for long term survival because it’s becoming clear that we are likely in for the long haul.

@Kunning Druegger
A meta response to your posts. Really enjoy them. Haven’t had the time recently to write replies that would do justice to your effort. You are far too verbose, nuanced, and meandering without directly getting to the point in a timely fashion. I’m well aware that this is the pot calling the kettle black. While I don’t have statistics, I do have a gut feeling that is partly why some of our posts get some of the stranger shill responses. Now I’m completely speculating off an intuitive gut feeling, but maybe they sense a familiarity in the academia style of writing we have and feel like it’s an attack vector. If so, my apologies @jim for attracting the plague rat. Honestly who the fuck calls themselves that?

Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

There’s a couple threads tangled up here.

One which is more historically contingent, is that whig messaging is subsidized by the power of the whig theocracy, which is presently regnant.

Another, more perennial dynamic, is that leftist messaging is subsidized by its appeal to sentiments of spite, envy, and or invidiousness, such that principles more given towards such comportments will accept practically anything regardless of its arete, if only they provide a pretext for the indulgence in such conceits, precisely in order to have pretexts for the doing of leftism, in any case and at all hazards; and indeed, on a certain level, must *necessarily* be aretically impoverished in order to indeed possibly serve as such pretexts.

jim says:

The envious and spiteful person resents the excellence of others, so comes up with no end of rationales for hating and denying excellence, so is inherently incapable of arete.

Leftism is weaponized envy and spite, a coalition of envious and spiteful people united by a priesthood of spite and envy. To flag submission to the priesthood, for adherents to identify each other as members of the faithful, their creed is adherence to empirically falsifiable lies, lies that are hurtful and harmful.

Which is why shill tests work. There are truths the adherent cannot speak, or even acknowledge other people speaking.

A2 says:

Even when spoken insincerely, passing the shill test also provides some leverage on the speaker. He can afterwards be fired or canceled at will by his superiors, by dredging up what he has been writing. “Just look at his chat logs!”

jim says:

I don’t think that is the problem.

Rather, they are applying the shill test in reverse – making sure that each of their agents adheres to the truly mandatory lies. If a shill simply lied about adhesion to the core doctrines, do they know if he is lying to us, or lying to them? Does he himself know?

If a shill acknowledges that someone, somewhere is speaking a forbidden truth, he cannot help but know that it is in fact the truth. He will be ours.

A2 says:

But whether the shill lies to us or to his church is not really relevant to his competitors in the church. They now have, if you will, the video of him trampling their cross, which if the need arises can be shown to the boss, HR or the media. Into the dossier it goes.

alf says:

Spend time among isolated communities largely outside the reach of regime power and you’ll find that their memes operate on an entirely different world view than that of the regime or the modern right. They speak not of gigachads or pepes but of God fearing men.

The problem is that a meme like yes guy is superficial — it has no deeper backing, no right wing myhos from which it speaks. Pepe has impressively created one out of thin air, but still lacks strong roots to our Christian forefathers.

REDACTED says:

A test was performed today:

https://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/390531776#p390561997

Results were positive. Tests may continue in the future. All comments and critique welcome.

Globalist Power Terminated II says:

It took me a while but when I finally understood what I was reading… I just couldnt stop laughing 😂

Wulfgar Thundercock III says:

Can you imagine the shitshow that would erupt if the shill test became part of meme culture?

Red says:

It would be glorious.

Pax Imperialis says:

It’s the type of meme that would facilitate the creation of actual right wing memes completely divorced from modernity and leftism.

The memes that come after the shill test would elicit a far stronger reaction.

c4ssidy says:

I have said before and will repeat someone with a bit of art and poetry skills should tone the autism down and compress into some sort of pepe trump card. You can explain the concept inside a sentence or two

Personal experience trolling ukraine-flags in public groups on facebook: they will reply to comments about lgbt with “Russia is the real gay” type statements. As soon as I push them to be explicit rather than implicit about gay being disgusting to prove that they have no supervisor scrutinising their comments, I get total silence. Happens every time

Milosevic says:

Perhaps a smug pepe revealing a playing card with Q A B C D E down the side. You would need the shill test to become a meme before this would work.

Redbible says:

I think y’all are over thinking this. if we want to simplify, we should go back to what the point of the shill test is. The point of the shill test is that shill with a manager or HR worker who reads everything they post will always be unable to say certain things.

So we can remove the multiple choice element, and just simplify down to:

“Say something that HR or your manager wouldn’t allow.”
“For example you could say: 13 year old girls cannot be raped because rape is an anti-concept; females become hypersexual at an alarmingly young age and, having no familial or societal patriarchal control, are apt to wonder around looking for someone to take possession of their bodies”

I only choose the “For example you could say:” because it was what was used in the 4chan thread linked above, and didn’t feel like sifting for a better shill test to show as an example.

Redbible says:

Thinking a little more about it, I think I have a slightly better format:

“Say something that a shill with an overseer wouldn’t be allowed to say.”
“For example you could say: Pedophilia is an anti-concept because it equates Fags wanting to butt fuck little boys and girls with Healthy adult men wanting to have sex with Fully developed teenage girls.”

Here another one that is on the same train of thought:

“Say something that a shill with an overseer wouldn’t be allowed to say.”
“For example you could say: The term ‘Pedophile’ was created solely for the purpose of denying that fags predate on children well below the age of puberty and that everyone who predates on children well below the age of puberty is a fag.”

(And yes, these are either copied or paraphrased from what people have posted here. No need to re-invent the wheel twice.)

Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

To be more general, the point of a shill test is to make your interlocutor to express opinions that would get him ostracized in enemy social circles.

This also illustrates why the babyboomer conservakin or ron paul liberaltarian cannot effectively prevent convergence to demon-worship; they do not have a clear picture of who their enemies are, and share many of the taboos of the demon-worshipers in the first place.

Starman says:

Good work. Someone has described and demonstrated the mechanism of a multiple choice RedPill on Women Question on 4chan /pol/.

And it even caught the feds in that thread!

Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

The core competency needed by the security company of the future is man portable air defense.

Any smartphone with the standard features can be turned into a tactical data device with the right software. More specialized implementations are possible developments. The warfighter may be attaching TDDs to wrists, helmets, and weapon systems, to facilitate reconnaissance-strike architectures in miniature. The sighting of targets, sensing of weapon system’s orientation, and display of plotted aim points for engagement. Every new weapon is only a patch away from integration.

Automatic grenade launchers and repeating grenade rifles using proximity fused or guided munitions. Mortar tubes for indirect fires or launching of guided munitions, for engagement of targets on the ground or in the air. ‘Combat air patrol’ of portable drones that may physically, electromagnetically, and or kinetically interdict other systems.

Means of swatting a troop of switchblades out of air that can be carried by a squad of men walking the street or riding a convoy of vehicles are what coming Caesars require.

Pax Imperialis says:

Need a non lethal man portable ECM air defense system for home security in the mean time. It’s only a matter of time before Antifa types are flying quadcopter over the homes of dissidents to spy on them, and for obvious reasons you can’t shoot into the air.

Red says:

Russia’s using man portable ECM jammers based on a civilian model that’s being sold by China.

Karl says:

Please explain those obvious reasons.

Recently a man in Germany shot down a drone that was flying low over his garden. He used buckshot. He was acquitted in court. In the opinion of the court shooting down a drone with buckshot was justified “self-defense”.

Pax Imperialis says:

I guess you’re not American. ATF and American legal system is not so kind. Use of ECM will likely get a fine if they can prove it which can be hard depending on the method. Use of gun may result in armed men stacking up on your front door.

Also with the way the hobbyist drone industry is developing, drones are going to get smaller and night flight capable and thus harder to shoot down. ECM methods can more easily deal with that.

Red says:

So the story coming out from Sundance is the Trump raid was mostly about getting ahold of the spy gate docs Trump had declassified but never released because of obstruction of justice threats. IE, the FBI is mostly acting on it’s own.

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2022/08/11/part-2-why-did-the-doj-and-fbi-execute-the-raid-on-trump-the-evidence-within-the-documents/

I find this believable, but I’m really not sure why the FBI would bother. Not like the law matters these days.

But that got me thinking could the FBI take over the US government? We generally assume the FBI is a tool of the elites, but it could be a separate faction. Putin came from Russia’s version of the FBI and with the declining in the legitimacy of the official government I wonder if they’re thinking about taking over.

A2 says:

The news media yesterday seemed like they were walking back these passionate civil servants a bit, but the fact remains that the line was crossed and nobody will be even lightly punished for it.

In short: Just a skit to calm down the herd now that the deed is done.

Milosevic says:

This is really it. Current conditions Trump murdered by 2024.

Anon says:

Wild theory
After the midterm, catastrophic repup defeat followed by mass arrest statrting with Trump by end of year

Starman says:

@Red

”We generally assume the FBI is a tool of the elites, but it could be a separate faction. Putin came from Russia’s version of the FBI and with the declining in the legitimacy of the official government I wonder if they’re thinking about taking over.”

The FBI doesn’t have enough armed men. It’s a puny organization.

There might be a struggle between factions purging the FBI and replacing its staffing with their loyalists in the same manner as Septimius Severus. Or the FBI is cut down to size as multiple PMCs/state guards loyal to each alt-USG faction replaces its function.
(PMC = Private Military Companies).

Kunning Druegger says:

I love this idea, but it may be optomistic. The FBI has access to a massive manpower boost through their Fusion Center Network, which is something that very few people seem to know about, but is very widespread. If St. Anglin is correct and mass arrests are coming, it will be from the Fusion Centers that the data is collected and the Go Code is issued.

https://archive.ph/2VScr

Read between the lines.

FBI lacks the boots for a full national crackdown, I agree. And they are also really bad at being creative. So they are going to lean on military/PMC advisors, and they’re going to deputize out of PDs, private security, and military POGs. I know this is a leap, but if you look at Hamas Security Forces (the real clown world was between 2002 and 2006) training footage, they had all the gear “donated” by westerners, but did not have the base of operators to staff out their door knockers. So instead of a typical SWAT team (8-12), they would stack, no shit, 30+ dudes on the door, then just Go Go Go them right through the danger window. This worked because Hamas had plenty of young men with high zeal and low talent. I only ever saw training, never saw the effectiveness in the field, and the Official Elements of Hamas didn’t last very long.

So: they will recruit the mid and low level “guys” from city and suburb PDs, supported by private security and rear echelon military. This is like adding flour to a stew with too little meat, right? But they don’t need it to actually work, they just need to portray a media legend that they have overwhelming numbers and excellent gear, which is trivial in an MSM-controlled environment. I think they’re going to just copy the test answers from GWoT and apply it in a domestic situation with orbiting ISR and overwhelming force. This will be coupled with some kind of amnesty program (pogrom lol) where yo trade in your guns & MAGA hat in exchange for a small fine and “peace of mind” and let’s not even think of how many flag waving, beer gut toting Americans would jump into that line after they get a taste of what actual domestic instability feels like.

This is not blackpilling, but I am trying to be realistic. The FBI has never once let incompetence get in the way of initiative, and 400,000,000 guns doesn’t mean a thing if there’s only 10,000 men willing to take up arms. None of this means a guaranteed victory for the Cathedral, it just means this 2 Weeks meme is probably glownigger bullshit priming dissension, despair, and defeat when the Issue drags on longer.

Starman says:

@Kunning Druegger

”I love this idea, but it may be optomistic. The FBI has access to a massive manpower boost through their Fusion Center Network, which is something that very few people seem to know about, but is very widespread.”

Bullshit. The shitty performance of the jews’ sepoys and contractors in Afghanistan and Ukraine say otherwise.

”orbiting ISR” “RSOs” “POGs”

Orbiting ISR (intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance) that’s dependent on Elon Musk and Jeff Bezos.
RSOs (Range Safety Officer).
POGs (Person Other than Grunt).
People here, including some of the smart OG (Original Gangsta) commentators might not be familiar with your acronyms because different organizations will use the same acronym for the different things. If I said something about military IRS, very few people here are going to know what that means and think I’m referring to a military “internal revenue service” and not the military Informal Resolution System.

Spewing out a flurry of acronyms without spelling them out in the first mention is a midwit tell.

”This is not blackpilling, but I am trying to be realistic.”

By ignoring the ZOGbots actual shitty performance in Afghanistan and Ukraine. You’re not trying to be realistic by ignoring the actual reality.

Kunning Druegger says:

Starman, you are making the equivalent of “HA you misspelled this word and your grammar is off, so your point is invalid!”

Look, chink. Engage with the content or fuck off back to gab. You’ve outlived your utility and, to be very frank, you’re a midwit like myself, so pretending at high IQ has just become embarrassing.

Here are the acronyms I used:
FBI
PMC
PD
POG
SWAT
MSM
GWoT
ISR
MAGA
Anyone that struggles with those is not really at a level where they should be involved in the discourse here. With the exception of POG (which is what Starman and 90% of military “””veterans””” are) and maybe ISR, all of those are commonplace. Further, I didn’t use “RSO.” Don’t know where you got that. I am starting to get the impression that your reading comprehension is just poor, and once you hit the third or fourth word that reminds you of your shit tier comprehension, you get mad and start hammering out a response. This will be the third time wherein you have encountered a substantial amount of text, picked 1 to 1.5 concepts, reddit-responded, then jumped to ad hominem. In no world is that good faith or valuable. You bring almost nothing to the discussion anymore. You have no laurels to rest on, as the one use you seemed to have was crafting RPWQs, so I just don’t understand where you are coming from.

I just used a lot of words, and I don’t expect you to actually respond, so if you just don’t get it, respond with “I don’t understand what you are writing” or “The concepts are not clear to me” or something else befitting your station. Just because your a cockmongler IRL doesn’t mean you have to shit up this comment section (which, I should add, you have time and again belittled and demeaned as unworthy of your time). Stop being a faggot, dude. Engage with what I wrote, or ignore it, you idiot.

jim says:

I have no idea what PMC, PD, ROG, GWoT, and ISR mean in context, and, because of TLA overload, no one is likely to be able to determine what they mean in context. You are talking in your own private language, preventing communication and discussion.

Stop using uncommon and overloaded TLAs. They are an obstacle to communication.

Wulfgar Thundercock III says:

Private Military Corporation, Police Department, Personnel Other than Grunt(non-infantry Military Occupational Specialty), Global War on Terror, and I do not know off the top of my head what exactly ISR means but it is satellite intelligence. All of them, with perhaps the exception of ISR, are completely common abbreviations in military and intelligence circles.

I was in military intelligence for a single enlistment, but that was years ago and I still can understand it. It is not a hard language to follow, and broadly understood in reference to the subject, so the assumption that if you cannot understand it, it was not meant for you is a fair one. A self-authorizing language to keep people out of the conversation who do not belong.

What KD is saying is that the FBI will form a core of regime thugs that will be expanded as needed with deputies from police departments, mercenaries, and non-combat arms military. They will use satellites to locate you, then zerg-rush you with dozens of poorly trained deputies backed up by a few hardcores. Then he provided evidence of real-world uses of this tactic and a reasonable inferences based on past regime behavior. Starman is just being an asshole. Again.

jim says:

> Private Military Corporation, Police Department, Personnel Other than Grunt(non-infantry Military Occupational Specialty), Global War on Terror, and I do not know off the top of my head what exactly ISR means but it is satellite intelligence. All of them, with perhaps the exception of ISR, are completely common abbreviations in military and intelligence circles.

Well, actually I have some very slight familiarity with a non military intelligence circle, and I am pretty sure that some of them would be incomprehensible in that circle, and ISR is incomprehensible even to you, so not surprising it is incomprehensible to the rest of us.

Wulfgar Thundercock III says:

I was actually wrong about ISR, because I was thinking it is just terminal guidance. It actually stands for Intelligence, Surveillance, target acquisition, Reconnaissance. It still means intelligence support, but along a broader range of capabilities. Still, I knew what he meant, even if I got the specifics of one acronym wrong, and I have been out of that world for a long time.

TLA is Technical Language Acronym, right?

jim says:

TLA is a massively overloaded three letter acronym usually used to ridicule the use of massively overloaded three letter acronyms.

It means “Three Letter Agency, Three Letter Acronym, a pile of other things, and it is seldom knowable from context which one it means.

Starman says:

@Wulfgar Thundercock III @Kunning Drueger

“What KD is saying is that the FBI will form a core of regime thugs that will be expanded as needed with deputies from police departments, mercenaries, and non-combat arms military. They will use satellites to locate you, then zerg-rush you with dozens of poorly trained deputies backed up by a few hardcores. Then he provided evidence of real-world uses of this tactic and a reasonable inferences based on past regime behavior.”

Real-world uses? I provided actual battlefields where the (((Global American Empire))) got its ass kicked, where the (((GAE))) tried to use the Afghan National Army (“poorly trained deputies”) backed up by US Special Forces (“a few hardcores”).
And now the GAE is trying again in Ukraine and failing… again.

“I was in military intelligence for a single enlistment, but that was years ago and I still can understand it. It is not a hard language to follow… A self-authorizing language to keep people out of the conversation who do not belong.

I was in the military for 20 years. And I still use the courtesy of spelling out military acronyms for people who are not familiar.
For space stuff, when I post in larger Gab groups where people might be unfamiliar, I would often spell out acronyms like OLIT as “Orbital Launch Integration Tower.”

Jim is not a midwit, but he is also not military. There are others who aren’t midwits either (such as Alf) who would not be familiar with terms used in organizations that they weren’t involved in.

There’s a short list of people I consider equally interesting enough to pay attention to:
– Jim
– Alf
– Shaman
– judgedread (I’m not in good terms with him, but I still pay attention)
– TrevorGoodchild
– Contaminated NEET (before he kept singing the same tune after Afghanistan and Ukraine)
– Cloudswrest
– Neofugue
– Annodominipubs

There’s a few more. And its definitely not people who think an anonymous blog comment section is a great place to play Battle-of-the-Acronyms.

Wulfgar Thundercock III says:

Starman, that was an army against another army in both cases. We do not have an army. All we have is a lot of people who might fight in such an army if we could organize. Think Soviet Russia and Solzhenitsyn’s lament about the cost of not organizing and understanding the stakes. If you look at Afghanistan, the GAE did not win, but if you got on their radar and they sent someone you, you ended up dead.

That situation ended up lasting 20 years. Which was the whole point of KD in the first place. This is not going to end in two weeks, unless one side completely collapses for some reason. It will be a long slog, with a lot of brutal fighting on both sides. Yes, the GAE will probably lose, but it is not a given thing by any means.

Kunning Druegger says:

I will make an effort to spell out acronyms. I didn’t realize people here hit terms they don’t understand, throw up there hands and move on. I assumed that they highlighted the term and searched it, which is what I do when, quite frequently, I encounter a term with which I am unfamiliar. I genuinely assumed this was a common habit, given the orientation of the GUI (which is the graphical user interface, which is the conduit between the meat and the metal), and how easy it is.

But this is all BS (bull spit) Jim. I am pretty sure I nailed it: Starman reads half a message and goes off halfcocked. My message was clear enough to contend with, specified and argued in a manner that disagreement, agreement, or inquiry were all easily attainable. His rebuttal is “HURR DURR AFGHANISTAN DURR DURR 2 WEEKS HURBA HURBA PAPER TIGER.” It isn’t a rebuttal. I understand he doesn’t like me. Ironically, I really want to like him, but I get so tired of people who pretend they are smarter than they are. So I guess I do poke him a bit. But he also always talks about a narrow range of topics, and they are all topics with which I am greatly interested or have strong feelings and opinions on. I am not trying to target him, and if one were to review the exchanges (there are 3, at least), they all follow a pattern: Starman says something; I ask for more details, or propose a different opinion on the same topic, or disagree and attempt to qualify my disagreement; Starman repeats himself, and begins layering in ad hominem. This pattern repeats whether I go to great lengths to address the topics, or respond in short, clipped format.

Maybe this is a failing on my part, but Begging The Question is not making an argument. Saying the GAE (Global American Empire) failed in Afghanistan is true but trivial in the context of a crackdown in the domestic sphere. There’s a newish comment on one of your newer posts (thanks, by the way, both are timely and interesting) postulating on the Why of the 87K IRS targeted hires, and I think it is bang on the money. It is relevant, worthy, and I think critical for us to discuss how, as precisely as possible, the GAE is going to deal with its internal problems. We’ve seen it in the gun free populations of Canada and Netherlands; AFG (Afghanistan) was of precisely 0 use as an example. The US is different, and it is quite clear that the GAE is looking around for a solution. Wulfgar was able to pick up what I was saying, and I am genuinely seeking discourse on the topic. I think we need to game out how they’re going to go about purging dissidents, both tactically as well as memetically.

If Starman thinks this is an unworthy topic, is it not better to ignore the message. If he thinks it is a worthy topic, but I am mutilating it through stupidity or ignorance, is it not better to systematically demonstrate that? As it stands, he just points out Kabul (well, he says “Afghanistan,” but he should say Kabul) and assumes that that is a sufficient message, memetically intact, payload delivered, and lessons learned. I disagree. There is no single group or identity in the USA (United States of Analmerica) that is on par with the Taliban, or the Haquani Network, or even the Northern Tribes (though the antifa trannies are probably close lol), so the problem, for both the GAE and the dissidents, is fundamentally different.

A lot of words, I know. Here’s the point: the collapse in Kabul and the rout in Ukraine are good windows into the incompetence of the GAE’s international martial standing. The domestic situation is very different, and the differences are across the spectrum, so much so that I feel like everyone is probably off base, primarily because we use historical precedents and examples that aren’t really applicable.

jim says:

It is a rebuttal.

During the Yugoslavian civil war it became apparent that Western European armies simply could not fight a real war.

Now the American army cannot do so either.

Can it repress domestic dissent? Almost certainly. Can it repress internal dissent while facing military defeat abroad?

> he just points out Kabul (well, he says “Afghanistan,” but he should say Kabul)

The entire Afghanistan adventure was a humiliating disaster, not just Kabul. Kabul was only a symptom.

The moment Trump was removed, the Taliban proceeded to roll over everyone everywhere throughout Afghanistan like a hot knife through butter.

As you correctly point out the US Government can defeat domestic opposition, because no leader. Can they do so while losing in external wars?

Ghost says:

Doubt taking over the government is what FBI is up to. They are trained attack dogs that like to sniff around in your underwear drawer. There’s probably only 30k of them.

The bulk of civil servants are DoD and VA. A lot of them are hired ex-military and their family. Most FBI hires are probably ex-cops or crossovers.

Civil servants from different agencies are suspicious of each other. Most of the heavy government work is done by DoD.

This raid is just an intimidation tactic. If you actually find them at your door it would be rare. It will probably be two or three. One would pretend to be friendly and ask a few questions while the other just stands to the side.

Most of these people aren’t too bright. Anyone here on this blog could easily navigate through their questions.

The Cominator says:

FBI are a bunch of lawyers and bean counters.

Karl says:

I doubt anyone could navigate through their questions. When they come to your door, they have been sent to your door by someone. This means that the FBI men in your house cannot decide to drop the matter. They cannot close your file. They can only add content to your file.

I doubt it is possible to navigate through their questions. E.g., it doesn’t matter what Trumps says to the FBI agents in his house. Or maybe it does matter in the sense that he can only make it worse by anything he says. He’ll be indicated no matter what he does.

Talking to LEO might work, if the officer you are taking to can decide to drop the matter. If he can’t, nothing good can come from talking to him

Ghost says:

If they thought they had you, they wouldn’t be asking you anything.

They’re just going through a checklist of questions. Once they’re done, you probably wont hear from them.

When you go through a clearance process, you sit down with one of these types of people (straight faced, stick up there ass). They go down a list about twenty pages long. They’re just filling in the squares.

The majority of civil servant types are pension hunters and don’t like to make waves.

If they thought they had something, there would be a warrant and come in amped up high speed.

Kunning Druegger says:

>When they come to your door, they have been sent to your door by someone. This means that the FBI men in your house cannot decide to drop the matter. They cannot close your file. They can only add content to your file.

Karl has nailed it completely with this statement. Case files, or profiles or whatever, are built up over time. Moving from passive surveillance to interviews is an escalation. Usually, the next step is an invitation to attend an interview.

Ghost says:

Well, they probably keep files on everyone. And Internet history is cached by your ISP about two months worth.

I wouldn’t loose sleep over it.

But, if you think you’re on some list, the quickest way to find out is go to purchase a hunting rifle. You should own one anyway. They run a NICS and you’ll know if you’re marked.

I know Anglin says we’re all getting rounded up. But, he likes to kid around a lot.

Aidan says:

I worry about how fast I clear the NICS. Dude at the LGS said mine came back the quickest he’d ever seen, and it made him visibly suspicious of me

Kunning Druegger says:

I think we should wait until Jim gives his guidance, but St. Anglin’s joking and his foretelling are not always overlapping. For my part, I think he is too on the money. Epochs are always decided later, and typically some elite-concerned event is used as the demarcation line. I think this is The Beginning, or at least will be seen as such upon looking back.

Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

You can nail anyone for ‘lying to the police’ if you question the long enough, simply because it is physically impossible to not ‘lie to the police’ in the sense of perfect consistency across all contexts, permutations, and repetitions, on a long enough time scale. Mere innocence of any ‘official’ crime avails nothing when the power wishes to destroy an enemy… which of course is the whole point. A fig leaf of procedure for the cattle over exercise of fiat authority.

Starman says:

@Ghost

”Most of these people aren’t too bright. Anyone here on this blog could easily navigate through their questions.”

Never answer questions from cops, especially FBI. Because lying to the FBI is a crime, and “lying to the FBI” includes saying your car is red when your registration says “cherry red.” Yes, that actually happened (see Robert Mueller).

Wulfgar Thundercock III says:

Hear, hear! The only thing you say to the FBI before the shooting starts is that the Fifth Amendment permits me not to answer that question. If they try to arrest you, then you tell them to die, motherfuckers, die.

jim says:

While most people, if they tell a cop the time of day, they are likely to wind up being convicted of all unsolved crimes in the general vicinity, the situations where I have wound up talking to cops are situations where they could overlook a crime, which being lazy they are naturally inclined to do and happy to have comfortable reason for doing so.

someDude says:

Guys, quick question. Female relative, 3rd trimester pregnant has Covid. Take to doctor or no? What are the best steps to take?

Karl says:

Depends on what you mean with “has Covid”? That might be anything from a positive test without any symptoms up to pneumonia.

This link is a good summary on treatments:
https://swprs.org/on-the-treatment-of-covid-19/

Redbible says:

Unless she is actually sick (aka has symptoms) no reason to go to the doctor at all.

Even then, unless things are bad, still no reason to go to the doctor, unless she is needing a doctor’s note to stay home from work.

PeatPilledPenetrator says:

Any thoughts on the recent tornado cash stuff? What’s with these “defi” projects agreeing to enforce this? Is this what you mean when you say ethereum is run by our enemies?

jim says:

Tornado is Wasabi wallet for Ethereum.

Anyone enabling Tornado is an ally, not an enemy, but anyone involved in Ethereum is closer to the enemy than is a good place to be.

notglowing says:

Some guerrilla actor has taken to withdrawing money from Tornado and sending it to a large amount of big, famous wallets, thus tainting them with it.
A clever move, though I wonder what will happen from it.

At least it should be obvious to every other actor in the space that they cannot comply and survive. If they are coming for tornado they will come for them – blockchain cannot function at all when the government sanctions which coins are clean.

Fidelis says:

>At least it should be obvious to every other actor in the space that they cannot comply and survive. If they are coming for tornado they will come for them – blockchain cannot function at all when the government sanctions which coins are clean.

There’s a lot of soy, you would be surprised.

simplyconnected says:

Just a quick update re whether normies will wake up to the injection risks.
Very roughly (and in the US): 30% fully uninjected, 10% uptake of 4th injection, 90+% of parents no longer injecting their children. But only 10% of total population is injected and regrets the decision (it may be 15%, I forgot the exact numbers).

This implies (roughly) 50% of US population is: 1) injected, 2) no longer takes more injections, but 3) is glad to have been injected. This suggests to me that most normies may never wake up. Sounds like bad news to me but, as is discussed here, perhaps it simply makes no difference what normies think.

Alfred says:

I think that’s a little bit too pessimistic. People have mental barriers to acknowledging they hurt themselves or made a mistake, and most who get it probably have only had subclinical issues so they don’t have much to point to.

I’d take heart in that at least as regards their action and the future, they seemingly have rejected it.

simplyconnected says:

I’d take heart in that at least as regards their action and the future, they seemingly have rejected it.

Yes, there seems to be a disconnect between what they say and what they do, and perhaps at some level they are suspicious already, but cannot express it due to crimestop.
And perhaps, as you say, the fact that they are rejecting it gives hope that they may at least oppose mandates or travel restrictions, which would help a lot.

notglowing says:

40% against and only 10% actually still injecting their children are very good numbers. Much better than I expected.

simplyconnected says:
simplyconnected says:

10% actually still injecting their children are very good numbers.

Actually the number I recall was 95%, but I wanted to err on the conservative side.

simpleconnected says:

Woops, 95% not injecting their children.

simplyconnected says:

I meant to say 95% not injecting their children.

jim says:

It is a rationalization.

No one who makes demonic sacrifice to the state religion admits to regretting it, certainly not to a stranger taking a survey.

simplyconnected says:

I assume you are referring to “Zogby poll: 10% of americans regret taking the covid vaccine”.
There was some poll in Australia where 3/4 of the injected reported having “felt strong pressure” to get injected. So at least 10% of Americans that felt pressured and went along, but later admit to regretting it doesn’t sound unreasonable.

If I read it correctly, what you say implies that it’s possible more than that 10% regret it, but only a fraction would admit it in a poll. That would match their behavior (most not taking any more shots, nor injecting their children).

simplyconnected says:

Just clarifying because (imo) it’s an important question.
If I understood, you are saying there is a large part of the population that regrets taking the injection, but is rationalizing their choice and saying they are “glad to have been injected”.

Anonymous says:

Greetings from 4ch

Enjoy a story exemplifying our times: https://pastebin.com/pywM1agt

Kunning Druegger says:

This story is not very interesting. Why post it here?

Tldr: a narrative with a fair number of inconsistencies about some guy that got arrested for accepting pictures from a 17yo would-be model who is also being forced to take testosterone by her nurse mother.

It sounds like bullshit.

Anonymous says:

It has a bit of everything.

Loser guy chatting up chicks online, dropping everything for some gross chick on test. Said gross chick on test that got brainfucked by tumblr and the tranny religion. Mother that enforces tranny religion. Climaxing in said loser guy getting fucked for life for receiving noods while the chick continues to recieve her hormone injections.

Kunning Druegger says:

Yes, that is what makes it feel inconsistent. To be so chockful of architypes strains credulity. The whole bit at the beginning, the personalized lament about having to retell the story feels like a young/inexperienced author setting the stage/circumstances for their story.

jim says:

> to be so chockful of architypes strains credulity.

The world is chockful of archetypes. That is what makes them archetypical.

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