He who counts, counts for everything.
Voting is over. Elections are over. The Republic is over.
The time of Republics has passed, for a republic requires a virtuous elite, yet undermines elite virtue. Thus Republics are always short lived, and their endings dreadful.
The time has come once again for a King appointed by God, and for an army to march to holy war under the banners of Christ.
Deus Vault!
In hoc signo vinces!
Deus lo vult
For throne, for altar, for freehold
This has to be a prank. If it isn’t — every reader should ask himself: Do you really want to pin all your hopes on being the faction that ends up in control after the state is somehow taken down?
I believe that the greater probability is still that voting is worth doing. YMMV.
What kind of a Galt are you?
The first faction that adapts to the new normal is apt to wind up in charge. When Republics are dying, those who act on the assumption that they still live are apt to be killed as the Republic dies beneath them. All the sincere republicans in the time of Caesar were killed or committed suicide. Caesar Augustus won because starting shortly after the death of Julius Caesar, he was acting in the new normal while everyone around him was acting in the old normal.
Voting is not only unlikely to be effectual. It puts you at risk of being killed, and your family being killed, your friends of being killed, your employer or employees of being killed. It is not a good time to have your name and address on a list that is of interest to political activists. You do not want allies who may be penetrated by enemy entryists having your name and address as an ally. War comes, holy war comes, and not only is the first faction that adapts to war likely to win, the first faction that adapts to information epoch warfare is apt to win.
There is a significant likelihood that settling this issue will involve the winning faction going through the lists kept by the losing faction and killing everyone on those lists. The left is already unleashing the rhetoric of holy war and genocide.
The natural order is that you kill everyone who might kill you, and just about everyone might kill you. Extended cooperation is hard, and if you don’t have extended cooperation, everyone winds up killing every stranger on sight. The rules and customs that avoid this unpleasant outcome are being massively broken, and restoring them is likely to be difficult. We are heading into a situation where everyone has to kill or be killed.
The simplest, and most robust mechanisms for creating and maintaining a group with extended cooperation within an environment where extended cooperation is collapsing is Kingship and aristocracy. Stick with your true lord, who sticks with the true King, then you get to live. Everyone else gets killed, whether by the true King or each other.
Biden’s speech amounts to “accept Democrat rule, or die.” OK, but which Democrats? How are the Democrats going to figure that one out?
Vote, you will likely be killed in the end. Sign up with the holy army of the true King, probably live.
This comment should probably be in the post.
>It puts you at risk of being killed […] It is not a good time to have your name and address on a list
How many voted for Trump in 2016? 2020? For any Republican in the last 50 years? They are on lists.
How many people receive mail from their local and national Republican party? They are on lists.
For most people the damage is already done. They might as well vote. The more they vote the more it has to be rigged, the more apparent it becomes that the republic is a rotting corpse that needs to be buried.
“The first faction that adapts to the new normal is apt to wind up in charge.”
The problem is that we don’t have a faction. We have a bunch of people with opinions on the internet. Until we have actual RL power, like state governors at least german shepherd-whistling they are on our side, we aren’t a faction able to act upon the game. We are just bystanders idly commenting on which faction gets to parasite off of us until we go extinct in the next 100 years.
We do have a faction, in an important sense. All the real opposition to the regime is Christian Nationalist, and the Christian Nationalist meme warriors are, for the most part, in our pocket.
second this. we don’t need to make up any new names or come up with any new ideas. Christian nationalism is succinct and appropriate. it has the added benefit of being a taboo phrase for the left already. The real task ahead for us is to draw as many disparate groups of dissenters under that banner. it’s a race to the headcount of headcounts boys. if you ain’t first your last.
The more I think about it, this is incredibly white pilling. we have a name, we have a banner, we have a purpose, and we have a plan. plan. it’s time to start talking in more places than just online. where those places are, and to what degree is appropriate at this juncture, I cannot say. but I genuinely feel we are moving into a new phase, and our rigorous and noble work here should take that into account.
Amen
I would still recommend voting in non urban house elections. I don’t think they can so easily steal the house… also for the reasons Anglin mentioned the more obvious steals the more the regime loses legitimacy.
Younger people who have never registered to vote should not be starting now. Best to stay off lists. If you already are on a list, might as well vote.
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Not going to discuss privacy measures with a suspected enemy.
I would have fed him disinformation, but I grew up around IC types and I probably allowed that to corrupt me.
Honest question though. I’m on a bunch of lists like RNC mailing, party registration, college republicans, donations, etc going back over a decade. Any hope for me to get off those lists or should I just expect the Katyn experience? I’m already somewhat resigned to that possibility already.
Change your emails and your phone number. That’s all it takes to break the link with most groups. There’s lots of people with your name, but it’s generally email or phone number that’s used to identify you.
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Notice what we say our enemies are up to, before giving us advice.
You still seem strangely unable to notice the crimes of Soros.
I just gave you a little list, to which you were strangely unable to respond
[*deleted*] There are a million things more verboten than “Soros toppled …” [*deleted*]
Are there?
If it is so easy and safe to talk about what Soros has been up to, tell us a couple of recent governments he toppled or attempted to topple, and what he did to topple them. Ukraine, Russia, Hungary, among others. What has he been up to in those places? Events, organizations, actions? Acts of violence, destruction, and desacration?
Similarly, people can say “I hate niggers” all day long, but are strangely unable to notice any problems that black people cause for white people, or notice or respond to other people noticing them.
Similarly, it is entirely safe to criticize Jews who are not in power, and to point at the power of Jews who have been out of power for ninety years. You can safely scream “Rothschilds Rothschild Rothschilds” all day long and no one is going to pay the slightest attention. Say white lives matter, or that George Floyd killed himself with a fentanyl overdose, or that the holocaust did not happen but it should have, then you are going to get in trouble.
Can you say “white lives matter” and then point at some specific examples of callous, terrifying, brutal, and savage disregard for some white person’s life?
[*deleted for strange inability to mention anything done by Soros, Victoria Nuland, the FBI, or Mueller*]
Shills can say “Joo Joo Joo nigger nigger nigger” all day long, but there are some Jews whose actions they are strangely unable to notice, nor notice anyone else noticing.
Robert Mueller was [*deleted*]
I dare say he very likely was those things. But can you tell us what Rober Mueller did?
It has legitimacy left to lose?
Maybe. I expected we would have terror and mass murder by now, and we do not have it yet.
It is now clear that the plan is to install a cuckservative minority and a radical democrat majority in house and senate, and to fraud out every maga republican, every Christian, and every nationalist.
So what happens to DeSantis? Frauding him out will require naked criminal violence. He is signaling he is and is not a cuckservative, and hoping that this will protect him from the regime going all the way to naked criminal violence. Maybe they will let Florida be, and just clean up the rest?
If they care about legitimacy, then keep DeSantis around on condition that he cucks out, and give him the 2024 republican presidential nomination. But they cannot trust him, and cannot trust each other, so such a too clever plot is likely to fall apart. Easier just to fraud him out and then murder him should he fail to accept the democratic outcome of the Florida elections.
I still expect them to wind up murdering everyone, but not necessarily by 2023 Jan 20.
I did not think they would leave any republicans around, even the most cucked of cuckservatives, but this prediction is starting to look like it was made on Musk time.
Markets can stay irrational longer than you can stay solvent, and Romans continued to believe in the Roman Republic for a very long time, even though it had long been dead as a doornail. Caesar remained deluded even after he crossed the Rubicon. The conspirators remained deluded even after they murdered Caesar. After the death of Caesar, the conspirators expected normality to spontaneously return, but it instantly became obvious that a genuinely democratic election would elect another Caesar, so a return to normality was off the table, and yet the conspirators acted as if normality had returned. Only Caesar Augustus, then a teenager, acted in the new reality.
Yes. Right now they’re pretending they have legitimacy and there brought to power via the ballot box. It looks like they’re about to throws away that pretense and they don’t really have the domestic army yet to enforce that naked power grab.
Agreed. The legitimacy is evident in the fact that the normie believes in it. But it is also constrained in that same belief. This is why the Great Noticing, in my opinion, is such a good sign. It could be a portent of other, more important shifts in commonly held perceptions. When the Jewish elites tremble, the edifice of the Cathedral shakes.
The jew noticing is 100% a Cathedral OP me and Jim have both told you…
This like Covid is NOT something i have any doubt on. None.
Soros has been industriously shooting memes against expendable Jews all his life. He grew up doing very nicely out of one purge of Jews, and is preparing to do very nicely out of the next.
Quite an effective trick, to tie up so many ostensibly right-wingers with jew jew jew stuff. It’s the one thing they say “/pol/ is always right” about, it’s the triple parentheses meme that made a big stink all over the internet, it’s holocaust denial and jews did 9/11 being the most salient examples of conspiracies in peoples’ heads. All wastes of time and energy as they don’t actually attack the Cathedral.
“The DOJ will monitor polls in 64 jurisdictions in 24 states for compliance w/federal voting rights laws. Monitors will include personnel from Civil Rights Division & US Attorneys’ Offices.
AZ:Maricopa,Pima,Navajo,Pinal & Yavapai counties to be monitored.”
https://twitter.com/AliBradleyTV/status/1589736642524639233
The Senate is the one they can steal by running up the score in the Democrat urban fraud precincts.
“It is now clear that the plan is to install a cuckservative minority and a radical democrat majority in house and senate, and to fraud out every maga republican, every Christian, and every nationalist.”
Yeah I think this is the likely outcome. Interesting to see if cuckservative Oz losses to a literal braindead.
Funny thing is they defrauded Oz into the race in the first place. Philly kept counting until Oz won the primary.
Or the Trumpian Republicans have learned to fight fire with fire. Oz is not part of the establishment. He is part of the Trumpian faction. He beat the establishment-backed Republican in the primary. During the final elections of the Roman Republic, dirty tricks were employed by both sides.
The Dems put Oz in because they thought he’d be easy to beat. I don’t know if he’s Trumpain given his track record. He’s pro trans surgery for kids and the alike. Better than Fat Frankenstein but I wouldn’t expect him to do anything other than be a rat in the Senate.
Policy stances don’t matter. Are literally meaningless besides getting votes. We are simply at the stage are you with Trump or are you not. That is all that matters now. It is the Trumpians vs the entrenched political elite.
Trump held a rally with Oz. Oz is a personal friend of Trump and is loyal to him.
I’m with a Caesar if he arises but 2020 and J6 convinced that Trump was a Gracchus at best.
If he’s anything like the rest of Trump’s friends, then he’s going to declare himself a Democrat 5 minutes after he wins. Trump has no ability of generating loyalty or choosing people who are loyal to him.
If history is the guide, Trump is very much the Gracchus brothers and not Caesar.
80 years later, Caesar rode into Rome under the same banner of the Gracchus brothers.
>Trump has no ability of generating loyalty or choosing people who are loyal to him.
Preposterous. Trump failed as a head of government because he was deluded by normalcy bias, but he remains a successful and wealthy outsider elite with a large network of friends and vassals. You said yourself Pence was to blame for the hiring issues, and Trump is to blame for choosing Pence over Christie, who was his actual choice. He has suffered grievously for that error.
Look, it very well may be the case that Trump has learned nothing from his defeat. But what would it profit him to reveal what he has learned, or what he plans to do? I think it would be better strategy to carry on as if he’s the same guy that got snookered by the mainline conservatives. Where you are strong, appear weak, and all that. We are so easily deceived into thinking what we see on the screen is the actual person, but speeches are just as often misdirection, an act to control perceptions, as they are actual outpourings of honest sentiment or positioning.
Christie would have done the same to Trump. Trump needed to embrace the people who where his supports from the start no matter how little experience they had in DC. Hire exclusively from the non DC crew.
Trump made the same sort of staffing mistakes over and over again. His supporters kept telling him about the anti-Trumpers were being hired over Trump loyalists but he refused to believe that a good Christian like Pence would deceive him. A few based people slipped in, but the most important job to staff is the guy who hires or fires the rest of the staff.
You know what Stalin’s job for the Communist party was? Hiring, firing and promoting people in the party. Do you know how he got into power? He hired his loyalists and fired the other’s guys loyalists.
Trump doesn’t understand this concept. He’s a Merchant, he literally can’t understand it.
“Christie would have done the same to Trump.”
Agreed. Christie always struck me as just another establishment GOPper.
Trump could have guaranteed Christie’s loyalty by guaranteeing him a free supply of steak, cake, pizza and icre cream for the rest of his life…
64 areas where they toss out poll watchers should be enough to keep the house.
We should be praying for blatant and sloppy steals all over the place. We need all normiecons to have their faces absolutely rubbed in the fetid pile of false shit that is the Cathedral system. Ironically, voting may end up mattering more than the vote counting, particularly if it spirals into thousand thousand altercations, fights, and F/E distinction operationalizing. Let the permanent bureaucracy count votes for weeks, so long as everyone else starts counting heads.
Russia is preparing to surrender Kherson. This time, at least they began to take out people who believed them.
We have been hearing for a very long time that the Russians are preparing to surrender Kherson, though not, however from the Russians, who continue to pour reserves into it and continue to build fortifications. Nor have the the Ukrainians made significant advances. Ukrainian troops attempting to take Kherson are exhausted, depleted, and we are seeing mutinies among the Ukrainian troops.
Could it be that they are not preparing to surrender Kherson, but rather preparing for the likelihood of a terror attack on the dam, intended to drown the civilian population, preparing for the likelihood that if Ukraine despairs of controlling Kherson, Ukraine will attempt to murder everyone in Kherson.
Basil is a faggot Uke shill who is pushing the faggot Uke line. Just goes to show that the problem with the Holodomor was that it was not thorough enough. This year has showed me why Hitler and Stalin hated Poles and Ukranians.
Hitler was kinda dumb for it even if they are very hateable since they all wanted to side with him (the Ukranians not the Poles)…
He could have screwed them over later…
Serious dude? The Holodomor killed some of the best people in the Ukraine. People who brave enough to kill their own life stock and starve rather than letting the Bolsheviks have it.
It’s unfortunate that Ukrainians now give their little boys to pederasts and suck off faggots in the streets. They’ve turned to an evil religion because that promises them power built ultimately only result in the death of the entire country. They’re going to end destroyed as a people no matter who wins now.
And that same spiteful, brave attitude results in their destruction at the hands of globohomo. It might be brave, but bravery without thought is foolhardiness.
Indeed. I thought the same thing about the Pols. Very brave, but very stupid.
Poles*
I consider the Poles and the Ukes to be some of the most based Europeans. In many ways, they are just like Americans; there’s a portion of them that are utterly worthless, contemptable, and evil, and a portion that are based, redpilled, and very likely able to be loyal and true subjects of a renascent monarchy. All three of us are trapped under the cruel control of an evil elite.
It is completely fair for any non-American to paint us all with a broad brush based on the cucked urbanites we allow to rule over us. I don’t like it, and it isn’t an accurate portrayal, but I can’t really argue against it. Likewise, there are many Poles and Ukes that stomp sodomites and believe in patriarchal hierarchy, but it’s fair to judge them based on the cucked elites they allow to rule them.
Lost all respect for Poles when 4chan made it clear they at the level of the ordinary polish right winger sided with the Ukraine.
4chan is overrun by enemy shills. Looking at Gab, you might think the ordinary American right winger hates Elon Musk, but is completely fine with Soros.
That doesn’t speak of bravery to me, that’s just ineffective, pathetic and suicidal spite, very effeminate energy too.
If you are going to starve yourself to death you might as well take out the Bolsheviks that come looking for you and go out in a blaze of fire instead of dying like a faggot throughout 3 weeks for no reason. If you’re killing your lifeline, hell, just make it into rations, go into the mountains and full Taliban that bitch.
Now, see, those are some respectable men, that is true bravery. Those are some hard-ass motherfuckers, if they had 20 extra IQ points I expect they’d make a great nation out of Afghanistan in just a decade. Too bad they aren’t the brightest.
Any Ukrainian with a brain has already left the country and/or will take Russian amnesty, they’ll make it just fine.
No guns. The Ukraine is a pretty flat. The ones who resisted were murdered by the Bolsheviks and those who compiled where left to starve after the Bolsheviks stole everything. So they did the only thing they could do that would harm their enemies. Brave people.
Ukraine is operated by america. Ukraine lacks agency in current events, is led by the nose to slaughter. NPCs gonna NPC.
The ukrainian kulaks forced into cannibalism by jews did not lack agency and deserve respect and glory.
The Russians are having a lot of success with Lancet drones in Kherson. Those drones have fairly short range, which means the Russians are fairly close to Ukrainian positions. You would not be seeing Lancet drone use if they were withdrawing.
The kills with those things have been impressive, but I noted a few where the Ukrainian tank crew was able to escape the vehicle and run away before it hit.
Think about that. How much time, effort, money, and training goes into building a tank and crewing other, and then a Lancet drone. The tank crew sees a Lancet and just decides to abandon their tank and run. That is a glowing recommendation for the Lancet.
Yep it’s awesome. But I was thinking if just the noise of the drone caused them to bail, might as well build some that just fly a bunch of them around the battle field buzzing positions to cause the enemy to flee.
In 1940 when the Germans crossed the Meuse, the Stukas repeatedly simulated dive bombing entrenched French positions causing the French to flee allowing the German bridge the Meuse. The actual damage from the bombing was minimal since each Stukas could only carry one bomb, but the repeated simulated attacks was devastating. It destroyed their morale and unhinged the entire defense.
The Lancet flies too fast to react to. It’s likely the surveillance drones are tipping them off.
I’d like to see if it could hit a moving target. Pretty sweet tech.
Hitting a moving Buk.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nE1u7bCboWM
Outstanding. Any idea how much they cost? I was googling around but I couldn’t find anything.
Russia is visibly entrenching in kherson. They will not surrender it anytime soon. Are you intentionally lying or do you just see whatever you wish to see?
Perhaps it is actually you, “ten”, who sees what he wishes to see. Less than 48 hours after you posted this comment Russia left Kherson and surrendered control of it to Ukraine.
Is it possible that Putin and his regime not only expect the United States to become involved on the ground in Ukraine, but actually want it to happen? This seems crazy to even say, but I think I will be forever programmed to believe that the United States is just this nascent hegemon choosing to not annihilate every other country on the earth. I know that this is a dumb position to actually believe in, but it is the predicate for most discussion in almost every circle with very rare exception. Even those who oppose the US involvement in Ukraine right now always work from the assumption that if America wanted to, they could totally win against Russia. What if that is just not the case, so much so that the Russians are trying to get as many American troops into the theater as possible so that they can cut off what’s left of America’s meaty member? We’ve already seen some pretty embarrassing defeats handed to the United States military in the public eye. In reality, the loss in Afghanistan should not affect in any way America’s global reach or capacity, at least not in a technical sense. But we know that the soul of the American military has been rotted away to nothing, and that they are not the military that “won” WW02, or even the one that “lost” in Vietnam while holding the rest of the world down.
If the US goes into UKR, they’re going to send the tip of the spear. If Russia snaps that off, the rest of the USM are little more than heavily armed college students with a bunch of hood rats, border jumpers, and ugly fat women mixed in for flavor. This whole year, I thought Russia was making wildly incorrect assumptions about America and its ruling class. Is it possible that they are working form a much more accurate assessment, and following a plan to hasten or complete the demise of the USM legend?
I think Russia’s just waiting for NATO to collapse. Economically Europe is getting murdered and so is the US now that we’re shipping large quantities of fuel and natural gas to Europe while reducing the supply at home. The longer they wait for the US to fully enter the war the weaker NATO is.
if Russia is truly playing the long game intelligently, what they need is for the GAE to be riven with internal collapses, particularly in the core. while they will be able to tactically exploit collapses in the periphery, core collapse is what will keep any potential peer opposition off the battlefield. so playing the waiting game is absolutely a viable strategy, but they also may have designs on influencing some of the populace within the GAE cores, so it may be in their best interest to get the most effective and loyal GAE forces stuck in in Ukraine and Syria. that way, if/ when things start to pop off on the home front, the cathedral bureaucracy only has low quality/ low loyalty forces to work with.
while China may be better off with a balkanized, USA and a vanquish GAE, I think they are actually quite cowardly, and many of the ruling elite do not want to cut off the gravy train that is the intertwined CCP/GAE market. so it may be the case that Russia wants domestic collapse to happen sooner, but China may try to run that clock out as long as possible.
Pretty sure Russia is not playing the long game intelligently. Still refighting World War II. Starting to get a clue about Information Epoch warfare, for War is a stern teacher, but War is going to have to whack them quite a few more times before the lessons finally sink in.
Probably accurate, but what would it benefit them to rek shop on Ukraine with all the best tactics and newest toys of your long term goal is eliminating the real threat, that being GAE hegemony? If Russia had swept Ukraine in a few weeks, the warhawks and the genocide faction could scare up a coalition on a “drone gap” or some other dumb thing. As it stands now, Russia is big blundering bear, no need to worry, they can’t even beat Ukraine!
Just a thought, probably overly optimistic.
Biden(really Biden’s handlers) is upfront saying that they’ll count the votes until they win and that voting against them will result in your death. Why are they doing that? So they can laugh in people’s faces when they murder them?
Clearly issuing that threat wasn’t designed to change peoples actions. It’s not normal to kill people who vote against your party in America.
All pretense of legitimacy is going to break down over it and not even pretending that voting maters is going to destroy the foundation they sit on.
In 1519 Spanish conquistador Hernan Cortez ordered his men to burn their ships shortly after they landed as they were on their way to conquer the Aztec empire.
Now is not the time to take comfort in what was working yesterday. If anything we should be looking at exploring new territory, and relieving leftists of their power at every opportunity.
Someone on 4chan is claiming Bolsonarno’s people are shooting at Lula’s now.
Other Brazil bros confirming it seems.
https://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/403343554
About time.
If Bolsonaro wins, or just kills a horde of the enemy, it is going to put the fear of God into those about to steal the November elections in the US.
The shilling is very bad on 4chan tonight.
The thread’s gone. Anyone have another source on it?
Archived but not gone for me.
It’s back for me now.
Does anyone here expose themselves to normie MSM? Is it being ignored, minimized, or covered, and how? I assume they will suppress and twist.
Are the vassals and possessions of the GAE are a possible leading indicator of the core state?
My go to for GAE propaganda is reddit worldnews. Every other headline is how the Russians shelling nuke plants they control or are blowing up there own bridges as false flag attacks.
What we really need is for TDS to mutate into a lethal strain so that people like Joy Reid literally drop dead when they get upset.
Question: does anyone have a link or two to some good info regarding the covid jab’s effect on fertility, something that’s normie-friendly that I can share with friends who are still on the fence about it?
https://archive.ph/mwsOB
The very fact that the jab fucks up a woman’s bleeding is a very strong indication it’s fucking up fertility. They officially admit that the jab does that now.
https://live2fightanotherday.substack.com/p/lasting-legacy-of-trojan-horses
Obvious Moloch worship.
The intention is to ensure not that the female offspring of the vaccinated cannot get pregnant, but that they can get pregnant, but cannot carry the baby to term. This is sacrifice to Moloch. They are genetically modifying women so that they will bear babies and kill them in their wombs.
This is not primarily intended as population control measure, but as a demonic sacrifice measure. They intend that the grandchildren of the vaccinated will be sacrificed to Moloch.
No doubt about the intention, but I wonder whether or to what extent they have been successful.
Fertility is down, but there are women who bore healthy (at least apparently healthy) childern after receining the clot shot. Will fertility be down even more for the next generation?
When looking at big-picture stuff it generally helps to assume that TPTB are comprised of many different kinds of psychos, with interwoven agendas. I have no doubt a good chunk of TPTB worship Moloch in a literal, altar-in-the-basement kind of way. But there are others who want a depopulated earth for some equally evil reason.
From what I can tell, different batches have different effects. Competing agendas? Different batches for different areas? I don’t know, but I do know I’m never taking the jab or marrying a woman who has.
The Narrative on electoral fraud is as neurotically contradictory as I have ever seen, on any issue. A recent AP article (https://archive.ph/rOIJv) displays the schizophrenia. Time and again it says, Electoral officials are increasingly concerned about electoral security due to the crazy people who think there’s such a thing as problems with electoral security.
Two examples:
(1) “Top U.S. election security officials say protecting the nation’s voting systems has become increasingly challenging. That’s due mostly to the embrace by millions of Americans of unfounded conspiracy theories…â€
This is followed just a couple of sentences later by
“Foreign rivals are capable of potent cyber mischief. And the insider threat is considered greater than ever. On top of the physical threats and intimidation of elections officials… security experts are particularly worried about tampering by those who work in local election offices or at polling stations.â€
So a few lines after saying that concerns about electoral integrity are “unfounded conspiracy theories†we get a list of problems with electoral integrity.
(2) Later, this:
“Insider threats are a growing concern and could undermine serious strides made to secure voting systems… Rogue election officials could provide access to voting systems to unauthorized individuals… Poll workers or even voters could try to access voter registration databases or equipment, or plant malware to taint election management systems.
Eddie Perez, a voting technology expert with the nonprofit OSET Institute, calls the repeated efforts to cast doubt on the integrity of voting equipment an element of a more broad ‘manufactured chaos’ — intentional subversion of the nation’s elections to sow doubt.â€
Yes, after itemizing a list of electoral security problems, the next paragraph says that mentioning electoral security problems is “subversion.â€
My reading of all this:
The relatively “sane†leftists in power know they can’t control electoral fraud by the less sane left. And they know that if just one story about blatant fraud breaks through the media firewall, that will lend credence to all such claims. They want to project, as they always do, and accuse the right of doing what they, the left, are doing, i.e. fraud. This is one of the left’s hard-coded instincts. But at the same time, they can’t admit that fraud is possible, because the entire Narrative is that fraud is absolutely, totally, and in all other ways, INCONCEIVABLE!!!
Thus the insane schizoid article, leaping back and forth between “Anyone who questions electoral integrity is a semi-fascist!†and “There are threats to our electoral integrity.â€
This is not the behavior of an emotionally stable or in-control person. Their grip is slipping, and they can feel it.
They can only double down now. Whatever soul they had before Covid has been condemned. In a lot of ways it would be an act of mercy to put them to the sword. They cannot be saved.
It’s going to be super messy tomorrow. Dems pols are not on the approved cheat list will cheat in a messy manner, Republican pol watchers will be beaten up and tossed out of polling places, and the Feds will just rig the shit out of the areas the DOJ was sent to.
Some places will insane over the top steals for Dems, while others will have vote manufacturing going on for days or weeks so the Dems will win eventually. Defiantly a lack of cohesion with the elites given the lack of a viable cover story.
Biden’s handlers have intimated they want to stand for reelection. Thing is, i doubt that other factions in the DNC are just going to accept that though; they won’t just stand aside for Biden, who they have no confidence in, they’re going to want the validation of having their own figureheads in the presidency.
2024 is gonna be a sack of cats.
Hopefully those cats start clawing each other to death.
The message is already being sent out that Biden isn’t in good with the Old Guard:
https://www.breitbart.com/the-media/2022/11/06/cnn-fact-checks-joe-biden-on-several-false-misleading-claims-hes-made-while-campaigning/
Oh ho! Did you notice that, Mr. Trotsky, I mean Biden?
Great article.
Long past time to tribe up locally.
Get organized locally and if you can swing it, at the state level. No one will be left to themselves off in the woods somewhere, LARPing as Grizzly Adams.
Q: Who is king?
A: He whom the sheriffs obey
What article? The one neurotoxin posted?
Highest ballots printing, I mean.. “early voting” in 40 years.
https://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2022-11-04/early-vote-totals-point-toward-record-breaking-turnout-for-midterm-elections
Turns out Americans love what’s happening to their country.
They’ll probably be more on the money as far as how many extra ballots they needed to stuff than they were in 2020. They know how unpopular they are in 22.
What a shamelessly broken society we’ve become…
From which it seems plausible that not much over seven percent of actual voters voted for Biden, which is consistent with rally turnouts.
My estimate is about 25-30%. Mostly middle aged white Karens with Trump derangement syndrome (they aren’t that high a % of the population but all of those cunts vote). I do not believe niggers voted 90% for Biden, niggers almost none of them vote and they tend to like Trump at least in Florida. I think the nigger areas are just controlled by corrupt vote fraud machines who declare that everyone who ever lived there living or dead voted for Biden unless they bother to actually show up and vote Republican (if their ballot isn’t lost).
urban voting is largely manufactured. no ghetto thugs or beaner hombres lining up to fill out a form. or college kids for that matter. when I lived in the city it was always empty, in and out in minutes. today in my small town it was packed, line out the door and down the street. my neighbor is an election judge and said it’s the same way in every town in the county, and he’s never seen turnout like this for a midterm. if the whole county shows up to vote, who’s mailing ballots?
fraud is going to be off the charts, double the number of registered voters. gop will do nothing. dems will dare them to even try.
15%.
I buy this. I would stake on 25%.
Yes, but 25% is the absolute upper bound. There’s no way it’s more than 25%.
Why it’s not fraud talking points have gone out:
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/early-election-night-results-final-tallies/story?id=92762835&cid=social_twitter_abcn
https://youtu.be/WGm3MDo62wY
Thoughts?
While Razorfist’s crystal balls are bigger than mine, I find no comfort in any soothsaying today. Still mighty entertaining as usual, though.
And the video is now gone, at least on YT. Most likely it was pulled due to “election disinformation”. The Narrative today is Muh Abortion drove voting for Uncle Festerman and his ilk. Also, I’m seeing in normie-con land some labelling anyone close to Jimian as the obvious wreckers of this year’s Cunning Plan to vote harder.
He thinks I am a black piller.
We shall soon know if he is correct.
He correctly points out that Trump is no cuckservative, and Trump dominates the Republican party. Which is a huge white pill, but does us no good if Trump continues to be subject to normalcy bias. Voting harder did no good the last time, and will do no good this time. If Trump returns to power, it can only be by the methods of Caesar.
He is mighty pumped up on Trump. But elections are over.
He lists a whole bunch of measures to stop electoral fraud. But none of those measures are likely to have much effect. They just somewhat reduce lazy ass blatant open fraud, forcing fraudsters to get their act slightly more together.
The only way to stop the fraud is to have in person voting with ID and paper ballots, and armed scrutineers, or scrutineers backed by armed party militias, watching the handling of the paper ballots from start to finish.
On the other hand, if the bad guys were totally in control of events, no one would remember that Trump existed, so being pumped by Trump’s continuing political significance is not stupid.
elections are not over. voting is over. vote counting is coming to an end. Head counting is back on the menu. campaigning is about to become “campaigning.”
I say this with the great respect that you must at this point know I have for you: your timing is off, but the technical aspects of your theses are overwhelmingly correct. This issue with the chronology is relevant in the short term, and far less than relevant. in the long term. you see very clearly where we are headed, but that does not mean you know exactly how we are going to get there. I do think, with everything written here by all of your tribe, we could probably get very, very close to constructing a fairly accurate road map for how we will get there. there. we have not done that yet, and I don’t know if we will even get the chance to.
All this to say, he’s not calling you a blackpiller. He may not even realize the distinction between what you’re saying and doing, and what the crybaby black
pillers are doing, but there is a distinction. we hear are being realistic and honest. based on our close study over a long period of time and deep analysis. He is talking about people who just cry ” all is lost” every time something bad happens, or they are shocked, or they get surprised. and he’s right to mock them, they are faggot cowards how keep their expectations low in order to feel less bad when they get disappointed. you are crying out in a digital wilderness that things are going to get bad, very bad, and if we ever get a chance to try again, we need to not make the same mistakes. I think in time you will see that his position has a fair amount of validity and utility, and I think in time he will see that your position is scarily filled with inevitability.
And yet he would still likely get shot to death on the senate floor because of some lingering affection and normalcy bias for the republic.
Octavian or bust.
It’s hard to take Razorfist seriously, or pretty much any political commentator on youtube. If they were speaking the truth, then youtube would have banned them ages ago.
https://citizenfreepress.com/breaking/philly-will-not-count-30000-paper-ballots-tonight-due-to-karl-rove-lawsuit/
Sounds like the cuckservative machine is REALLY ACTUALLY trying to prevent a steal in PA for the cuckservative Oz against the braindead.
IDK I would prefer that if any seat got stolen it was by Sling Blade, Oz will be a 2nd Romney (probably not so bad as a McCain) and him losing to braindead will make even the most dimwitted boomercon realize its fake.
He who counts last wins. So this obviously helps the Democrat, faggot.
Are you calling Fetterneck a faggot or me?
And counting last helps if you can also make the votes you need last… but this sort of restricts the votes they need (at least in whatever corrupt precinct of Philidelphia) to a small number to be counted last.
Blackpill Bill is a faggot shill that wandered in tonight
He’ll make three posts, then up and ghost
And that is quite alright
See, Blackpill Bill and his cuckshill pills are oh so cheap and sweet
That once he pops, he just won’t stop
Like a boomer trying to tweet
So give him a (you) and a how-de-do as he tries to make you feel sad
For he has no plan, and he’s no real man
And he just wants a call from Dear Dad
That’s actually a weak point of mail in ballots, you get to steal a lot early but you can’t tell how many people will actually show up on election day.
Normally they take the difference between turnout and registration and make up the difference but what happens when the difference is too small to matter? My guess is they will just steal anyway. We’ll see something like 130% turnout. A Democracy miracle! Someone should make screenshots of current registration numbers tonight incase they are ‘corrected’ tomorrow.
In Milwaukee in 2020 they did there were precincts with 130 to 200% voting.
Wasn’t Karl Rove a nevertrumper RINO? I don’t trust his intentions.
Yes hes a cuckservative and Oz is a cuckservative.
Well, early results suggest a big Republican blowout. Let’s see if this is a repeat of 2020.
60 gorillion votes at 4am.
I think the red wave narrative overtopped them. if the radical left wants to genuinely kick off a boogaloo, they will try for the midnight special. otherwise, I think they are going to have to let it go quietly and just let the Republicans implode as they always do. there’s just too much scrutiny. desperately trying to find steals and frauds.
to my mind, the question becomes: is the consolidated left far more prescient than we gave them credit ? are they taking the heat off 2024 by dangling a seemingly legitimate electoral system in 2022?
Numbers dont look great to me anywhere except Florida and Texas.
Looks like you’re right:
https://acecomments.mu.nu/?post=401779
DeSantis blocked the feds in Florida
Like political theater. Trumps going to end up in jail within weeks, so they’re setting up DeSantis to be the new controlled opposition to suck dissent.
Likely*
I keep hearing this but what is the basis for believing DeSantis is fake?
I’m willing to be persuaded but nobody who is saying this gives any reasons.
Its all fake the tax slave opinion box is now thoroughly discredited.
And as much as I’d LOVE TO blame American cunts for this… I have to defend them like I’m some wignat white knight.
The enemy propaganda operation for DeSantis is obvious. DeSantis is a RINO replacement for Trump. But DeSantis does appear to be playing his own game as well and isn’t suffering from normalcy bias. He’s replacing Dem and RINOs with his own loyalists left and right while playing ball with the Cathedral.
So DeSantis is fake, but not gay. Better chance of him being Cesar than Trump.
They drank their own coolaid again. The pre-vote stuffingl was massively too small. Dems stayed home and the ones who came out voted mostly for Republicans.
Our only data points we have new system is Virgina and New Jersey Gov races. In Virginia they let a cuckservitive win and he went on to look the other way while Antifa intimidated supreme court justices in their own homes. In Jersey they just kept finding votes until they won.
My predictions are crap so far(no false flags), but I think it likely they’ll at least print enough votes to get rid of the MAGA candidates in areas where they have firm control. The level of oppression is going to seriously ramp up after the election. They’re going to be upset at the people who didn’t vote for them and punish them.
I spoke too soon.
Betting markets are pricing in pretty heavily that they will steal Arizona, PA, and Georgia. Looking like the only Trump-backed non-establishment candidate that will win is JD Vance. All others will be beaten by fraud.
They’re dropping huge blocks of blue votes now to ensure it. As Jim says, elections are over.
Yeah they are smartly just dropping huge batches of fake ballots from the beginning from the cities instead of at 3am to make it look less suspicious. Even Kari Lake who was an 80% favorite and was supposedly unbeatable via fraud is down to 50% already on PredictIt. I would expect that to continue to sink as they keep dropping massive blue chunks from Maricopa. I give them credit for mixing up their strategy at least.
I suspect Lake pulls through but thats it…
Your predictions are shitty.
The meme that there’s fraud unless you count all the votes the same day was just too effective. So they got even more blatant about it. Probably a smart move. Keep the form of the fraud changing to reduce peoples ability think about it clearly. Without real Elite leadership there’s no way to really cooperate against it.
Florida elections were quite clean so it’s a good indication of what the real results were countrywide.
You have a chip on your shoulder about me probably because you were a covid Karen, i said the reps would win the house and the dems steal the senate and that there would be no fraud in Florida and Desantis would win big, so mostly im on track to be right you stupid corona Karen bitch.
Fox News is going overboard deep throating Ron DeSantis, creating a storyline that all the Trump-endorsed are getting crushed so obviously DeSantis is the only way forward for the Republican Party and Trump should be discarded.
Social Media controlled opposition guys are doing the for DeSantis.
@Com you sure they’re going to win the house? They’re not even pretending with these huge blue drops.
Only retards thought DeSantis could be defeated by fraud so you’re not impressing anyone there moron.
Social Media controlled opposition guys are doing the same sort of suck job for DeSantis.
Jim time to give this guy the communist revolutionary treatment.
Red i stand by my prediction of them winning the house when all the smoke clears.
For some reason they are letting Hershel Walker hang around with a small lead. Not sure why they haven’t commenced the massive Fulton County ballot dumps to blow him away like they are doing in AZ and PA. I would think they would make an example of him to show that all of Trump’s endorsements are getting crushed.
They’ll push Herschel Walker to a runoff that he will lose.
Dude, don’t be a bitch. If you think he’s a shill call for a shill test. Otherwise come up with some entertaining insults.
I don’t see any reason they wouldn’t just fraud there way to the house too. Anyways, we’ll know in a few days.
Technical reasons they can only fraud certain precincts and most of the house districts dont have them.
PredictIt still has the House at 87% for the Republicans so I don’t think the fix is in for the House. I think they are fine with McCarthy being speaker. He’s part of the establishment. He won’t be much different than Pelosi is reality. It’s all part of the kayfabe to let the R’s win something once in a while even though they will be toothless in practicality.
Yes you are right. The massive ballot chunks are coming almost exclusively from the big cities.
LOL, they’re going with the shill line it’s Abortion, not fraud! It’s so fucking absurd.
Kav was a plant he should have killed the repeal of Roe. Not that its honest reason for the red wave disappearing but it muddys the waters there will never be an effective ban on abortion even if you had honest elections and the pro lifers are fools.
They’ve giving people little dollops of hope by having the supreams hand down popular decisions that are ultimately meaningless.
Betting markets have the R senator winning Nevada still who ironically was endorsed by DeSantis and not Trump.
If they let him win that feeds into the “DeSantis is the greatest ever and Trump is finished” storyline.
Surprisingly the abortion line is working. Gives men women to hate instead of Democrats to hate for rigging the vote.
From ace of spades HQ comments.
They’re rigging rural votes now too. I’m guessing they wanted the house to flip Republican.
https://acecomments.mu.nu/?post=401779
I don’t think they wanted to steal the House. The regime uses the Republican-Democrat kayfabe theatrics as a way to call itself a “democracy” which is important for legitimacy purposes and control the populace.
The goal was to allow non-Trump establishment Republicans to win but steal from all Trump Republicans who were outside of the establishment. I’d say they were overwhelmingly successful in that.
Yes I’d say they achieved exactly what they planned to achieve. Now well see if any of the Dems losing their seats will cheat the cheaters with the late vote printing.
Kinda sad how many nominally smart people are going “aww shucks guess we didn’t vote hard enough.” I’m not 100% right (I was expecting big blue wins, not just small red gains, might still happen) but I’m closer to right than I’d like to be.
In 2020 the left brazenly and obviously cheated, and then they bragged they cheated and drew details maps and charts documenting all their cheating, and nothing was done (almost nothing, DeSantis appears to have learned the lesson and counter-fortified Florida, for all that it matters). The left just fired the same canons they had loaded, aimed, and ready for the last two years. They probably did a better job this time and now it even seems normal rather than a rush job.
I still think the turnout numbers are going to be hilariously preposterous, not that it will matter. The GOP pulling funding from all these MAGA candidates is another obvious tell that will get swept away, kinda like William Wallace’s nobles deserting in Braveheart. Uniparty FTW. If you are a republican and you don’t go on a Wallace Revenge Rampage after this, you’re not going to get anywhere.
> are they taking the heat off 2024 by dangling a seemingly legitimate electoral system in 2022?
No.
Anyways, now that we’ve got one party rule firmly established in the US, how’s it going in Brazil? I’m having trouble finding sources of news about it.
Actually the Trumpian “election deniers†did pretty good in the house all things considered. The media is downplaying that to make Trump look worse and DeSantis better.
McCarthy will be speaker but the average House R will be much more Trumpian and Populist. That’s probably the most realistic trend to stick going forward: The House becomes something of a Tribune of the Plebs while the Uniparty just maintains permanent oligarchic control over the Senate/Presidency/Govenorships.
Although, Kari Lake seems to have her own ballot dumping operation going on. She has closed the gap significantly but I’m still skeptical that she bribed enough people to win.
Good election account to follow: https://mobile.twitter.com/LokiJulianus
“Although, Kari Lake seems to have her own ballot dumping operation going on. She has closed the gap significantly but I’m still skeptical that she bribed enough people to win.”
Yeah and it seems shes the only one who did this…
I know I’m very skeptical of female candidates but that impresses me.
If she did, you would think Masters did as well. They are virtually the same candidate, both wildly popular in Arizona, and often campaigned together. The discrepancy between their counts is bizarre, fake, and gay. I can’t possibly see how Masters loses and Lake wins. That makes zero sense from a fraud standpoint.
I know some Tucker viewers who found Lake more charismatic than Masters…
We’re not fans of women in power here but she may have gotten more normie voters due to better charisma and that may explain the gap (not sure how big it is). Genuinely impressed despite my view on women if she is the only Republican who fought dirty…
She is woman. Therefore will bend to power. Probably already has bent to power. We are not going to get anywhere attempting replace Recucklicans with supposedly based women, and our enemies know this perfectly well – though they attribute this to the inherent superiority of women, rather than their inherent inferiority.
Hence the fraudsters see no reason to fraud her out – just to apply sufficient fraud that the rest of their fraud operation does not look entirely absurd. (Actual votes look to be about ninety percent republican)
Watching her speech last night she’s talking like someone who has their own fraud operation going on in the background. Typical Republican rhetoric is “aww shucks! I guess we’ll take this to the courts!â€. She is not talking like this. She confidently asserting she will win after enough ballot drops. I’ll guess we’ll find out.
https://twitter.com/KariLake/status/1590217668849647616
And her vote blocs are tracking like that too…
Jim I agree on women and yeah AWALT… and of course she bent to power she worked in the media any woman who makes it to any job in showbiz takes a lot of dicks in every hole to get those jobs… but my hat is off for being the only one GOPer other than perhaps DeSantis who fought dirty. Trump consistently wouldn’t do it despite having Roger Stone as an advisor.
And as far as sucking dick to get ahead good… as far as women go whores are generally the most redpilled and least NPCish of women.
Female Political schrewdness and cunning is not totally unprecedented. Plenty examples of Roman aristocratic women who held considerable power and influence behind the scenes. They can be quite machovellian.
*Fixed for bad block formatting
Yes but they seldom govern well. Though I’d like know what man is is directing her. He may govern well through her.
Lake is running her own ballot manufacturing operation. Though she’s still unlikely to win.
I would have agreed with you last night but now she’s within 12k and still dropping 85% fake ballot blocks. I think she’s unlikely to lose. Her confidence in her election speech is reminiscent of Biden declaring victory while still down hundreds of thousands of votes. I think it was only a matter of time before someone on the right realized they could cheat too.
Interesting. I don’t see why they won’t arrest her for manufacturing ballots. They’ll be fine deep sixing a Republican for it.
They would have to admit then that it was possible…
They don’t want to do that. They MIGHT do that to keep say Trump out or something but for a governors race when they can steal everything else… No.
They may try if/when she wins. It’s an interesting development. She will have an armed Sheriff guard around her. Much harder to arrest a sitting Governor than a citizen. Get the popcorn ready.
She hasn’t mentioned taking it to the courts once (which is all the 2020 Trump team did ad nauseam). Makes me think she has it in the bag.
every time dems dig into right wing fraud it only exposes massive left wing fraud. better to lose one race than to break kayfabe.
Biden’s threats to prosecute and/or kill people who object to the steal has proven effective. Obviously massive fraud and yet very few people are willing to say it online.
Fuck em. Clownworld secret police are lazy and retarded and want to jerk off to porn in their office all day and not do any work.
Unless you are a celebrity who someone big notices they aren’t going to come after you. Also because the Fed’s arrest process requires a whole hierarchy of people all of who have to be motivated to actually get off their ass to get you.
Sure, but I’m seeing a lot crime stop going on with people commenting online. IE, it’s effective. Also the Feds do make examples of their foes. Look at the pro-lifers sitting in jail for protesting an abortion clinic. It’s fear that keeps people from thinking about it.
If someone big actually takes a personal interest in you. Rick Vaugn was the only person who was close to an online nobody outside the normal political process who they took an interest in.
The DC elite consider online frog peasants who are below the Rick Vaugn level beneath contempt.
What big person cared about a bunch of prolifers protesting at an abortion clinic? The FEDs are filling quotas. Arrest X number of people for thought crime Y. That’s what they do.
They snagged a couple cause someone big (probably Ron Klain himself) was looking for “prolife white supremacists terrorists” and that was the best the Fed’s can come up with.
The one good thing about the clownworld reign of terror is like everything else they actively do it will be pathetic, effeminate and fake and gay.
Its their regulators who strangle all economic life in favor of daemon gaia that are the real terror…
The enforcement is fake and gay but the opposition is also fake and gay.
>Clownworld secret police are […] they aren’t going to come after you
Their outsourced and unofficial foot soldiers will still drive to your house and shoot you dead for wrong speech. Remember all those fiery but peaceful protests that the DNC more or less state sanctioned?
https://archive.ph/b1u2u
Im in Florida, its Democrats that worry about being beaten up if they run their mouths here.
https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/russia-becomes-indias-top-oil-supplier-in-october/article66103845.ece
India continues to defy the GAE in respect of oil from Russia.
https://edition.cnn.com/2022/11/08/football/qatar-fifa-world-cup-ambassador-homosexuality-spt-intl/index.html
Qatar World Cup official condemns homosexuality , in defiance of globohomo religion. The Cathedralites are frothing at the mouth 😂
So they’re still manufacturing votes in Nevada, so the looks like the normalcy faction will end up with House controlled by the Outer party and the Senate controlled by the inner.
All in all a big win for the Normalcy faction. They kept their crazies in line and managed to muddy the waters enough with the DeSantis stuff that it should mute a reaction to the fraud.
Cominator called it. not as bad as I predicted but much worse than normies were expecting. no one seems more surprised than democrats today, they knew they deserved to get slaughtered. instutuonal power and the will to use it reign supreme, normalcy bias gets you killed fast. every obvious explanation is radioactive.(fraud) and the cucks are out in force rationalizing with their very erudite captain hindsight takes.
Meanwhile DeSantis locked down the voting system with loyalists and cleaned up. why are people calling him controlled? TDS seems to go both ways.
People think DeSantis is controlled because of the shills supporting him; they are claiming the elections are real and show a lack of support for Trump, therefore people should support DeSantis.
Thank you and while DeSantis is working the establishment I don’t think they control him.
GOP dissapoints and Russia loses Kherson, must not blackpill.
Also what are some good resources to learn Mandarin?
GOP didn’t disappoint, there was never any chance they win anything. The victory of the normalcy faction is disappointing, as they kept their crazies in line again. Jim’s working on Elon time again.
The supposed Kherson retreat is odd. I think there’s a Dam up river that could wipe the town out, but odd to devote so much time building up the defenses and then just leave.
The Ukrainians say they are being cautious and that there are still Russians defending but I doubt this is part of a big ruse. They will probably abandon in time.
The fact that GOP can’t effectively fight fraud is part of the disappointment. Those things are part of the fight.
Kari Lake is fighting fraud with even bigger fraud. White pill.
Russia loses Kherson?
Maybe, but I have seen rather too many announcements rather too often that they have lost Kherson.
Not going to believe it until I see an image of Ukraine troops running up the flag in the ruins.
I expect announcements that Russia has lost Kherson to come at shorter and shorter intervals for the next several years or so.
Not disbelieving it either. Could be true. But truth is the first casualty of war, the Russians have “lost Kherson” for quite a while, and yet as of yesterday it still looks strangely unlost. Maybe they lost it today and I have not caught up yet, but if so, in no great hurry to catch up.
The Russians have announced the withdrawal. Did you not see it?
So unless it’s a part of a big ruse, they will leave to the right bank.
I hear from western sources that Russians have announced the withdrawal. I have been hearing similar stories from western sources for a long time. Maybe I will hear it from Russian sources bye and bye.
Shoigu and Surovikin gave a press conference announcing it earlier today. It’s all over Russian telegram.
Russian link? Russian source?
I don’t follow the Russian language accounts but you can read Rybar in English.
https://twitter.com/rybar_en/status/1590371634204266496
You can also go to any pro russian channel like Intel Slava Z or Slaviangrad, no is is disputing this now.
For whatever reason all of the Russians keep saying Kherson is about to fall or be evacuated, but Ukrainians claim the opposite or that no progress has been made for forever and that the Russians side is sending out disinfo.
I’ve seen some pro-Russians speculate that its an attempted trick or trap of Ukrainians but many more seem to genuinely believe the announcements, or pretend to believe them
Russia is probably just making an orderly retreat while covering their positions. That will take a few days.
Yes, Putin has repeatedly said he does NOT intent to conquer the entire Ukraine. More important, he proved his words by sending expeditionary corps instead of invasion force. And he definitely does not want to destroy Ukraine nor genocide Ukrainians as I explained before.
To further bolster my claim, even the new commander of Operation Z, Sergej Surovikin, a brilliant guy from Syria, has said that he has “no intention whatsoever to let his soldiers die in guerrilla war against NATO armed fanatics”.
(And no, Russians did not do any WW2 Blitzkrieg, You don’t do Blitzkrieg with your forces third the size of defending forces. I think Jim’s wrong on that one.)
So, what was Russian end game in February ’22?
Applying Sherlock Holmes’ razor, I think Russians:
1. Wanted to stir up processes leading to formal incorporation of Ukraine into NATO. Just like they did with Georgia without conquering it.
2. Expected or even prepared counter-coup, so that some more reasonable Ukies can take the power. I mean, it is obvious because many of the so-called pro-Russian politicians ended in POW swap, MedvedÄuk being the most famous example.
By achieving step 2, Russians could claim “denazification” and “neutral status” of Ukraine. That is, victory.
Alas, there was no counter-coup. Kiev’s regime is holding. No sign of going out of NATO control. So, no deal of any kind, as Neurotoxin has described very accurately. No victory.
While Russians are finally bringing number of their grunts to be en par to GAE/ NATO/ Ukrainians, I don’t think it is enough for victory not under any military doctrine, be that WW1, WW2, or IEW.
Can it be “forever war”? Or did Russians simply planned very long attrition war from the beginning? Or were they simply naive about Ukies hailing them as liberators?
Now what?
They abandoned Herson, which is so lame I can barely comprehend it. While Russian prestige is growing among non-Western world, be assured that every prestige is rooted primary in military might. So if Russians do not acquire some other valuable land soon (say, Zaprožje or at least the entirety of Lugansk state) their prestige will start to deteriorate.
I mean, who can respect supposed superpower who is unable to keep claimed territory against nation quarter its size? “Orderly retreat” my ass, it is sign of weakness, do not have any illusions about that.
Proof that limited war is stupid example 1 trillion. War should always be total.
>Sergej Surovikin, a brilliant guy from Syria, has said that he has “no intention whatsoever to let his soldiers die in guerrilla war against NATO armed fanaticsâ€.
Not a good sign; implicitly thinking in terms of the whig account of how warfare is supposed to work.
In fairness, that is the only thing most men alive – including men in the military – have been brought up to believe. The only problem of course, is that it is deadly wrong – so most men alive court deadly peril when they attempt to act in accordance with such beliefs.
Demotist regimes are good at creating chaos, bad at creating order.
The consistent pattern of military conflicts past 1945 is; large power moves troops to [area], spends 5-10 years masturbating uselessly, then go home greatly diminished in ignominious failure, having expended tremendous blood and treasure on cargo-cult LARPing instead of ever actually establishing things that establish order; one hand sets up apple carts while the other hand tears down any Cherterton’s Fences protecting them.
Of course, fellow demotist neighborivals are just fine with this situation, as formenting chaos for their neighborivals comes naturally; hence the phenomena of both the Soviet Union *and* the GAE getting their pinko dicks chopped off in Afghanistan.
Pravda (in English):
https://english.pravda.ru/news/hotspots/154740-kherson_russian_troops/
https://english.pravda.ru/news/hotspots/154744-kadyrov_surovikin/
RT.com (also in English):
https://www.rt.com/russia/566243-pull-back-kherson-save-lives/
Although… something is… off in all that. It is not the normal way of announcing retreat. I’ve never heard nor seen anything like that, and I lived through the war during which my side did many retreats. Also, British war map on Wikipedia is still unchanged.
On the other hand, right on this blog I falsely predicted back in February that there will be no Russian invasion simply because Russia as a nation lacks something I called “will to power”.
And watching all that I wonder was I right after all, at least partially.
As first, Russians attacked with one third of the opposing forces. Not exactly a Blitzkrieg way of winning. And it is obvious to me that there never was any attempt at Blitzkrieg at all, and I strongly disagree with you seeing early Russian advances as Blitzkrieg.
Emperor Putin, and undoubtedly many of Russian elite, see Ukraine and Ukrainians as their own land inhabited by somewhat lost brothers. Putin even wrote an essay about that, and recently mentioned some such “brotherhood and unity” crap in one public speech. That’s why they did not employ “shock and awe” strategy, and only after terrorist killing of that girl and attempt at Crimean bridge they finally started striking Ukrainian infrastructure.
You see, me thinks that Emperor Putin actually cares too much for that “ancestral Russian land” and its “Russian brothers”. Present-day Russians and Ukrainians might or might not be “brothers”, might and might not live in “brotherhood and unity” one day, but right now, in order to achieve that “brotherhood and unity”, Russian soldiers must kill at least 300 – 400 hundred thousand Ukrainians soldiers. And probably send some parts of Ukraine into Stone age.
That is, Russian Army must make 300 – 400 hundred thousand Ukrainians widows and orphans. It is ugly, it is sad, it is painful, but that’s the way it is, always was, always will be. Only after that one can play “brotherhood and unity”.
Somehow, I doubt that Putin and Russians have stomach for that.
This, I believe. If the dam went down, troops on the right bank would have no supplies, reinforcements, or path of retreat for quite some time.
I was disinclined to believe the western sources version of this announcement, which was that the Russians were acknowledging defeat and Ukrainian military supremacy, which defeat and Ukrainian military supremacy was not at all evident on the ground, and so I neglected to check out the Russian sources.
We are still killer apes. You would be surprised what people have the stomach for when their enemies piss them off.
But the big problem with Russian tactics is not that they are excessively reluctant to kill and destroy, though they are. Only now are they finally striking at Ukrainian infrastructure.
The big problem is that the Russians are still refighting World War II. Fortunately for them, the Ukrainians are still refighting World War I.
Trump understood Information Epoch warfare a lot better than anyone at the Pentagon, and a lot better than anyone in Russia. Trouble was his merchant instincts led him to endlessly attempt to cut a deal with those with whom no deal is possible.
Putin is still trying to cut a deal.
This war is unlikely to end in compromise, but in the utter destruction of one side or the other. Likely it will end in nuclear fire unless civil war within the Global American Empire occurs before external war reaches that point..
Right now, Kahovka dam, situated near the town of Nova Kahovka, is at least 35 km from front lines.
See https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4f/2022_Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine.svg on 2022-11-10 13:50:55
While the dam can be reached with modern rocketry, I find it totally lame to have a fear of destruction as a reason for abandoning valuable land whose population has just recently said they want to be your subjects.
The proper response would be to try to extend zone of control (ZOC) and/or make crystal clear that, no matter what happens to the dam, those who are actively trying to destroy it will be subjected to an unspeakable wrath.
There is PeruÄa Dam that was under Serb control up until January 1993.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peru%C4%87a_Lake
There was a big concern that Serb forces would destroy the dam, killing many people and flooding large area including tows of Omiš and Sinj. It would also have an effect of temporary severing area of Šibenik from Split, not unlike current situation in Herson.
Did it ever occur to Franjo TuÄ‘man to say something like: “Oh, my, they will destroy the dam, let’s retreat even further?” Or, after the dam was wrestled from Serb control: “Oh, my, let’s retreat from there after all, otherwise Serbs might attempt to destroy it with artillery!”
No, we took the dam back, during that operation Serbs did try to destroy it but failed, and after that TuÄ‘man explained them in no uncertain terms what will happen in case they continue trying – and Serbs even had quite an advantage in artillery, advantage they held till the end of war.
(Their other advantages did evaporate with time, but notable advantage in artillery was there even on 5th of August ’95.)
Consider also that Herson was quite an example of “peaceful integration of novorussian lands into motherland” like reported here:
https://www.rt.com/russia/556495-restoring-peaceful-life-kherson/
…and one can not but start to think: “Is Russian emperor out of his bloody mind?”
This is bad for morale. This is not the way of winning any war, be that WW1-era, WW2-era or Information epoch war.
Or Russians are up to quite some maskirovka.
>Or Russians are up to quite some maskirovka.
I hope it’s that. If not, Putin is proving to be one the weakest leaders in military history.
Jim: “This war is unlikely to end in compromise…â€
I’ll strengthen that and say it’s impossible that it will end in compromise.
The Russians cannot stop fighting because they know that if they stop, the GAE will eventually destroy them with probability equal to 100%. It will be slower than a shooting war, but it will certainly happen.
And the GAE can’t back down because they’re insane; the left cannot back down. The very idea that they might lose anything ever makes them flip out like Trigglypuff. They couldn’t back down if they wanted to.
Therefore: Neither side will back down.
Therefore: The war will only end when at least one of the sides is destroyed.
I think a lot of Russians get this, but I’m not sure Putin does.
I think Putin gets it, but that takes me to another point: Another way it could end, and I’m sure the GAE will try it, is that Putin gets assassinated. Of course, they can’t totally predict who will replace him, but they’ll try it anyway. Putin had better have extremely good security measures.
What’s your evidence that he gets it? He’s been very soft this entire war.
The fact that he’s fighting this war at all. The fact that he escalated when they bombed that bridge. The fact that he keeps going even though “Oh no, casualties!” The fact that he doesn’t give a shit that per GAE propaganda, “the whole world is against Russia.” (Or he gets that that’s BS.)
Whether he understands the necessary strategy and tactics is a different question from whether he understands the necessity of fighting this fight.
I think he gets it, but I think there is a lot more going on in the Russian Federation than we in the West acknowledge. Scores of ethnicities, scores of languages, scores of factions with scores and scores of years of history. By no accurate or honest measure is Russia a homogenous and unified place, and the Russian Identity Putin has built over the last 2 decades is the only unity option they have. So he has to put those considerations first.
I think I already put this idea in another comment, but it occurred to me the other night that what we perceive as “softness” or excessive caution may be in fact a very deliberate strategy of slow boiling the GAE frog. If Russia had done a neo-Blitzkrieg with IEW tactics and space warfare, the GAE would very likely have had a Sputnik moment or, even worse, a Roosevelt moment, where Woke Progress gets put on the shelf and the GAE core started to rearm. There is a strong possibility that even if They wanted to do something like that they couldn’t, but when you look at the US in the 1930s, it’s pretty alarmingly impressive how They pivoted away from women, negros, and socialist politicking and into war industry.
So maybe more within the bounds of reality, if Russia had decisively conquered Ukraine, Biden’s GAE managers would have their War Fever cake and eat their dissident populations as human sacrifices too. The RNC and the useful idiot conservatives were all gung ho to hate Russia in February through at least June or July, but that petered out with the commons as it dragged on. By keeping the conflict incremental and, in many ways, boring, the nuclear armed 300,000,000 pound gorilla can’t stay focused or unified. Russia needs to play a long game, and one that leaves them better than they started it, for even if they manage to beat the combined GAE, it’s not like China is going to suddenly be OK with playing second fiddle to yet another white(ish) European(ish) country.
Russia needs to come through the Ukraine debacle ready, willing, and able to take on Europe, either politically or militarily, and more likely both…ly.
Putin does want to conquer Ukraine and has consistently said so. He has consistently said NATO expansion in Ukraine is a red line. He has consistently utilized military operations to pressure for negotiations. Negotiations take place only for Ukraine to back out because they are not agreement capable. Military operations restart at greater intensity. Repeated a dozen or so times.
That has been the status quo since Maidan. The problem Russia faces is that NATO (read America) is not agreement capable and by extension neither is Ukraine. Putin recognizes NATO is not agreement capable. For some reason he seems to think that with enough pressure on Ukraine they can be split from NATO and that they will become agreement capable. All the evidence points to the opposite. That leaves fully conquering Ukraine as the only option to prevent NATO expansion, but as pointed out Putin does no want to conquer Ukraine. The result is that the conflict will likely continue to drag on inconclusively for many more years.
What Russia should be doing is destroying every power plant, every water treatment facility, every cell tower, every radio tower, every rail station, every oil storage facility, so on and so forth to completely eradicate Ukrainian logistics and set them back into the stone age. The Russians are capable of doing that as demonstrated by the high success of their limited strikes on such targets. Instead the Russians are having conscripts dig trenches and building fortifications on the Russian side of the boarder where they will be fixed, immobile targets.
Should Putin be assassinated or disposed, the likely outcome is that you get someone who is willing to conquer Ukraine because right now it’s Putin who is the hold up.
Pax has the right of it. Putin should be reducing the Ukraine to a burned out hole and if he’s killed or replaced that is what will happen. Putin is too soft and lot of good men on both sides are dying due to his reluctance grasp the nettle.
>Putin does want to conquer Ukraine
I miss-wrote. Meant to say ‘Putin does NOT want to conquer Ukraine.’
>Pax has the right of it.
Maybe. I’m highly biased towards using violence in abundance. Earlier this year I was advocating complete leveling of Kyiv via low yield nukes because renaming the city along with State Department backing of Orthodox Schism made it blatantly clear to me that negotiations were over. Putingrad could always be built on the ashes. People on this site, I think rightfully, said that was going too far.
I’m fearful that because Putin did not embrace shock and awe early in the conflict that GAE will get involved and then the big nukes will start flying.
I think the chances of this is very high. I get what Putin’s doing, he’s waiting for the west to freeze and collapse while saving his men but he’s a holy war, not a conventional war. There won’t be a collapse, they’ll just mass murder anyone in the west who resists being used as cannon fodder. The longer it goes on, the higher the chances nukes will fly.
Reminds of WW1 where the Germans where slaughtering the French in huge numbers and couldn’t figure out why the French government wasn’t negotiating despite taking huge losses. The Socialist French government thought it was a wonderful opportunity get rid of the Roman Catholics. WW1 was a holy war of Socialists vs the Christians but Germany didn’t get the memo.
>Maybe, but I have seen rather too many announcements rather too often that they have lost Kherson.
Jim is, once again, lying his ass off. There have been ZERO announcements of Kherson falling or being abandoned prior to this one. Predictions that it would in the future, yes. Statements that it had happened, no. Not a single one. Jim cannot point to them, cannot cite them, cannot link them. Jim can only make vague blanket assertions. Jim is lying.
Jim is doing this to distract from the fact that he is desperately deluding himself by ignoring facts he doesn’t like.
Every time the Russians took measures to evacuate civilians, which measures have been under way for quite some time, and escalating for quite some time, it was reported as an implicit admission that they have lost Kherson.
And the decision that they will abandon Kherson sometime soon is also being reported as an admission that they have lost Kherson.
Possibly if I had bothered to carefully read the fine print in these reports I might have found that they were not exactly Russian troops flee fire and slaughter by triumphantly victorious Ukrainian troops marching through Kherson, but were a technically an accurate, though misleading, depiction of events. But why carefully read someone who is trying to deceive?
What the headline or intro led the reader to expect and believe is that Kherson has fallen to triumphant Ukrainian victors. Maybe that was not exactly what was said, maybe the article was technically truthful if read carefully, but the headline was deceptive and misleading, so I did not read further.
I am not ignoring facts I do not like. I am ignoring “facts” that sound like those continually bellowed out of every enemy loudspeakers.
While I’m sure that our courteous host has enough audacity to speak for himself, not needing any solicitor, I remember at least one talk of Herson falling. Sometime during summer ’22, perhaps after retreat from Nikolajev bulge, there was some American jarhead claiming Herson fell to Ukes. My father in law believed it for a while.
https://youtu.be/74WITSO_Qcg
Scott Ritter on the Kherson Withdrawal.
Ritter says:
“They’re [the Pentagon] not going to put combat troops on the ground [in Ukraine]… because it always ends up in thermonuclear war.”
Normalcy bias in action. Ritter can’t conceive of an American elite that would willingly or even unwittingly follow a course of action that culminates in auto-genocide, despite the mountain of evidence that that’s precisely what’s happening.
Ever since the revelatory moment for me when St. John demonstrated Grasping The Nettle on the heels of Jim describing IEW, I’ve articulated the concept (IEW) and the implication (GTN) to various men in positions of relevance or command. I’ve tried ultra condensed and broadly expansive. I’ve started with the conclusion and worked backwards, and I’ve built up to the conclusion concept by concept. Anyone from the 4th gen warfare crowd just can’t see what’s so obvious. Some won’t allow themselves to be pulled out of their paradigm, and others realize the implications and are too horrified to deal with it. I’m going to keep trying to perfect the delivery, but it could be the case that just as America has abandoned God, the will to power has abandoned the warriors of America.
Here’s the summary as I see it:
IEW is the warfare methodology of mapping all systems as Networks, comprised of Centers, Nodes, and Connections, then annotating the network map to delineate the vital centers, critical nodes, and foundational connections, then targeting precise nodes and connections or centers for destruction with the inevitable result of network collapse OR making certain nodes or connections or centers aware of the targeting capacity such that they are forced to act in a manner conducive to your aims. IEW is the application of digital network topologies to all aspects of the socio-political space, itemizing all elements and participants such that one can sufficiently map out all critical points and thus hold ultimate power over said network. In this way, thousands of men need not be thrown into combat, and trillions of dollars need not be spent; rather, certain men can be targeted and taken out or compelled to remove themselves from the equation, and critical infrastructure centers can be targeted and disabled, or just taken offline as controllers desperately seek to harden them once they become aware of the targeting.
Obviously, I’d appreciate any constructive feedback.
Enemy organizations are organizations. Organizations grow out of leadership. No leadership, no organization. QED.
Men have ideas. Ideas have consequences. No men, no ideas, no problem. QED.
Precisely so.
You concisely summarize the essence.
Hacking with high explosives.
Trump was negotiating with the Taliban. He appended to his text to a Taliban leader, an image of the recipients home.
Looks good to me.
I’m shocked men are having a hard time grasping it. It’s what we tried against Saddam during the 03 invasion. It’s just applied to ever level of leadership in an organization. It’s a natural progression.
Thanks for precise explanation in plain language.
One question:
Would you further bestow to the IEW doctrine the following description:
“With IEW, we attack not the enemy forces, but the enemy strategy.”
Meaning, the strategy or the doctrine of using those forces.
>“With IEW, we attack not the enemy forces, but the enemy strategy.â€
Sounds too close to 4GW cowpuck. ‘We can win by speaking the right magic words to win Hearts and Minds, we dont even need bullets.’ No, you win by putting bullets in the heads of people in charge of speaking certain words.
Err, no. No 4GW cowpuck. These are words of a real victor, a chief military strategist of a nation, when asked why there was no great battles in this victory, battles like Kursk or Staljingrad or Normandy.
“We did not attack enemy armed forces. We attack the enemy strategy.”
Meaning using (scout) drones, destroying C&C centers with lowly air force within first 30 minutes of hostilities, and making some quite unexpected moves, e.g. slicing enemy territory using professional soldiers on foot (!) crossing through mountain tops (!) or using conscripts (!), well-trained but conscripts nevertheless, for establishing bridgehead across main river behind enemy lines.
I’m trying to figure out was the IEW before the term was coined.
Such as term (neo)reactionary. I’ve heard it, with almost the exact modern meaning such as on this blog, years before Mr. Yarvin started publishing as Mencius Moldbug, in satiric novel of somewhat known Hungarian-born Israeli writer Ephraim Kishon. Novel was originally published in 1990. in German under the title Undank ist der Welten Lohn.
Who said this?
Don’t recognize this quote. Give provenance.
Admiral Davor Domazet Lošo.
He even used the term “Information war” back in nineties, and did not mean some kind of propaganda “war”, but both deception and armed actions for the purpose of denying real-time information to the enemy and/or placing to the enemy only those info you actually want him to know.
So, taking out comm-relay nodes first. Or MLRS command posts instead of heavily defended MLRS itself. Blocking some highways on unexpected places and/or with unexpected forces, and leaving other highways traversible for enemy and letting him know it so he can retreat instead of fighting. Et cetera.
Despite being disfavoured by subsequent politicians, he and his doctrine are widely regarded by many as bringers of Croatian victory.
Sometimes in 2005, and after forced retirement, he started pursuing… political philosophy with ideas not unlike those of yours. To be honest, back then, despite thinking very highly of him as a military strategist, even I thought he “lost a compass” a little bit when he wrote about “occultist elites taking over Europe (and America) since French revolution”.
Nowadays, I see he was spot on on that.
He’s still alive, still publishes, was along with many others vocal opponent of Mindless Hysteria, and one of the too few with realistic view of current events in Uke.
Col. Macgregor has a term for approximately the same concept as IEW: ISR-Strike. Intelligence Surveillance Reconnaissance Strike. He is an excellent writer and very coherent, so best to look it up straight from the horse’s mouth. I believe there are YouTube videos in which he discusses it.
From my perspective, IEW is just porting network security and InfoSec into the real world. Erase the boundary between meatspace and cyberspace. So organizations are servers or software packages, people and data cables are basically the same thing, nodes can be physical buildings or data centers or particular officers, politicians, or managers. It’s almost a 1:1 comparison. Spearfishing and hacking with tungsten spikes and machetes lmao.
>deception and armed actions for the purpose of denying real-time information to the enemy and/or placing to the enemy only those info you actually want him to know.
Isn’t this just counter-intelligence, like the kind the CIA has been doing since forever?
Information Age Warfare is just real time battlefield intelligence applied tactically with smart weapons. IE, the benefits of information age tech applied to warfare.
I think you misunderstood me, i was not saying your understanding was flawed – or perhaps rather the man you were invoking – but that the words as written were very easy to misinterpret in a wrong way, as compared to other ways of saying the same thing.
@Adam
No, not just counter-intelligence, for the following reasons:
1. All of the enemy assets are pondered according to perceived value in “Information war” (IEW?), and those assets’ information-providing capabilities are considered equally important as battle capabilities (so, bits per seconds may be equally important as a rate of fire).
2. All of the enemy assets may be striked with military means, there is not clear division between tasks for spies and commandos and tasks for soldiers, even conscripts and middle-age draftees.
3. The point is, if enough assets are destroyed, the enemy will retreat, not the least because he will be denied real-time info about the entire battlefield. So, victory can be achieved without the need for targeting head-on some specific, hard-to-crack objective, be that Staljingrad, Vukovar or Panzer army, with great cost in your own men and materiel.
In other words, in “Information war” you don’t have to have traditional 3:1 advantage in military hardware and grunts on some battlefield region. (Yes, you still must have respectable military and enough grunts.)
@commentariat
So, if Russkies in Uke do not wage warfare like that, they are not waging modern warfare, I agree with that. Mind you, I do not see the evidence of Blitzkrieg either, however it might be possible that they are applying some Blitzkrieg derived strategy adjusted for some local sub-theater of war such as Donbas.
They probably could have won with classical Blitzkrieg/ Deep Battle/ you name it, but for that, it is clear as day that they would need at least two million soldiers, and accept high own losses like in WW2 against Germany, and be very willing to make many Ukrainian widows and orphans.
So, even with current number of grunts on Uke theater of war upped to 500 thousand, Russkies will not win if applying Blitzkrieg doctrine. They will not be defeated either, but there will be attrition war for a long, long time. Maybe that is their end game because it seems that Russia can wage such attrition war longer than “The West” can burn money in Uke Black Hole.
I don’t know. It seems to me that they really expected negotiations and/or anti-Majdan coup, both of which failed to materialize. There are some signs that they are readjusting their doctrine now, and it might not be Blitzkrieg-derived.
It would be better for mankind if that war is over in less than a “long, long time”.
howdy Jim
as far as the marching under the banners of Christ, think you this will require a revivification not just of the Faith but of our blood & cultural history?
https://stoneageherbalist.substack.com/p/hating-the-saxon-the-academic-battle
i was piqued reading this and wondered what you’d think of revivifying the storied histories & character of the Anglo-Saxons as a necessary ingredient for the restoration of “our peoples.” in quotes because i know not what people from which you hail.
i feel i know well how important the banners of Christ are to your aims in this struggle however, if you would indulge me, how important are these histories & myths of our national characters in your estimation?
thank you.
First comes faith, which leads to victory. Then comes the glorification of culture and blood. They are effects caused by the existence of a healthy society seeking to pass down the traits that made them strong. They are not causes- the English cannot celebrate having unique English liberties (instead of having a fake and gay copy) until they are a free people.
Honour thy father and thy mother: that thy days may be long upon the land which the Lord thy God giveth thee.
If i honour my father and my mother, and they honour their fathers and mothers, and they honour their fathers and mothers ad infinitum..
That means we collectively honour our forebears including the pagan ones, the parts of them that were honourable.
IIRC the LORD commands the israelites to not worship gods of other peoples ancestors. Perhaps i am jewing the text but sounds like worshiping the gods of your own ancestors is ok. Our life stems from them, our continuous revelation of god stems from their gods.
You are jewing the text a bit IMO. Are you a neopagan?
No, i am a christian.
Aryan paganism was how God was revealed to us at the time, and it was good. He was revealed to us and to others in other ways before and after. Then he was born on earth, which changed things.
Times being what they are, our defense mechanisms are on heightened alert. Don’t take it personally.
You will never be a real pagan, you have no household gods, you have no sacred sites, you have no real tribe or shaman.
You are not a warrior you are a pathetic larper making a foul mockery of germanic and viking tradition, your ancestors pagan and christian alike would have laughed at the idea going to vahalla and when you die youll be put in a graveyard that is unmistakably Christian.
Cliche Came Out of its Cage (by C. S. Lewis)
1
You said ‘The world is going back to Paganism’.
Oh bright Vision! I saw our dynasty in the bar of the House
Spill from their tumblers a libation to the Erinyes,
And Leavis with Lord Russell wreathed in flowers, heralded with flutes,
Leading white bulls to the cathedral of the solemn Muses
To pay where due the glory of their latest theorem.
Hestia’s fire in every flat, rekindled, burned before
The Lardergods. Unmarried daughters with obedient hands
Tended it By the hearth the white-armd venerable mother
Domum servabat, lanam faciebat. at the hour
Of sacrifice their brothers came, silent, corrected, grave
Before their elders; on their downy cheeks easily the blush
Arose (it is the mark of freemen’s children) as they trooped,
Gleaming with oil, demurely home from the palaestra or the dance.
Walk carefully, do not wake the envy of the happy gods,
Shun Hubris. The middle of the road, the middle sort of men,
Are best. Aidos surpasses gold. Reverence for the aged
Is wholesome as seasonable rain, and for a man to die
Defending the city in battle is a harmonious thing.
Thus with magistral hand the Puritan Sophrosune
Cooled and schooled and tempered our uneasy motions;
Heathendom came again, the circumspection and the holy fears …
You said it. Did you mean it? Oh inordinate liar, stop.
2
Or did you mean another kind of heathenry?
Think, then, that under heaven-roof the little disc of the earth,
Fortified Midgard, lies encircled by the ravening Worm.
Over its icy bastions faces of giant and troll
Look in, ready to invade it. The Wolf, admittedly, is bound;
But the bond will break, the Beast run free. The weary gods,
Scarred with old wounds the one-eyed Odin, Tyr who has lost a hand,
Will limp to their stations for the Last defence. Make it your hope
To be counted worthy on that day to stand beside them;
For the end of man is to partake of their defeat and die
His second, final death in good company. The stupid, strong
Unteachable monsters are certain to be victorious at last,
And every man of decent blood is on the losing side.
Take as your model the tall women with yellow hair in plaits
Who walked back into burning houses to die with men,
Or him who as the death spear entered into his vitals
Made critical comments on its workmanship and aim.
Are these the Pagans you spoke of? Know your betters and crouch, dogs;
You that have Vichy water in your veins and worship the event
Your goddess History (whom your fathers called the strumpet Fortune).
I keep this on the top shelf.
bro what the fuck
Old Aryan religions were ancestor worship. In the Aryan faith, you are not allowed to worship X unless you are a legitimate descendant of X in the male line, or have been formally adopted by a legitimate descendant of X in the male line. So all these neopagan faggots are engaging in heresy against the Aryan faith as much as they are engaging in heresy against the Christian faith.
Neopagans are a bunch of Jewish faggot pederast demon worshiping entryists. The old faiths emptied out before Christianity hit them, with demons stepping into the emptiness.
Have to restore marriage for generations before we have ancestors.
Ancestor worship meaningless unless you can trace your ancestry individually back through your actual father, grandfather, great grandfather. Meaningless unless you have had strong patriarchy through those generations. Prechristian histories and myths died before we became Christian.
The old Aryan faith was a result and manifestation of the old Aryan patriarchy. A new patriarchy will, after generations, have new ancestors.
The Saxon pagans that invaded and conquered the Britons were adherents of the old Aryan faith. The pagans that Alfred converted to Christianity at swordpoint were adherents of the degenerate emptied out demon infested descendant of that faith.
Dems are back at fauding out victory in Arizona. Looks like they’ll sweep the state. I don’t think we’ll the final outcome of these fraudulent elections until next week sometime. Dems will keep flip seats if they feel the need for it.
Anglin on what’s up with DeSantis:
https://dailystormer.in/cernovich-leads-shill-revolution-for-ron-desantis/
Like I said DeSantis is fake, but maybe not gay. But everyone pushing him certainly is a paid faggot.
“DeSantis is at best a mediocrity…
At worst, he’s a total plant of the Republican establishment…
Either way: he’s a very normal politician, unlike Donald Trump, who is a revolutionary non-politician and a completely destructive and atavistic force of nature.”
Trump is still stuck in normality bias mode. DeSantis isn’t. When he takes an institution over it get restaffed by hardcore DeSantis loyalists. When a RINO or MAGA takes something over it ends up staffed with their enemies. DeSantis has proven very competent in governing Florida and he’d do very well governing the whole US if he can subvert or replace the deep state. But that’s a mighty big if.
I’ve said this elsewhere, but I’m just going to reiterate here: DeSantis has an incredible lineup of attributes and methods that suggest he may be what we have been hoping for. but he is undeniably in bed with all of the worst elements of the RNC establishment. Jim put it better than I ever could: we don’t know if DeSantis is in bed fucking he RNC, or if the RNC is in bed fucking DeSantis. historically, when someone based jumps in bed with the RNC, they get f***** eventually. so, that is a pessimistic outlook on where this could go. but, as Jim has also said, strange things have a habit of happening more often as our times grow ever more dangerous and unpredictable. so we have a very good measure for where DeSantis actually is. if Trump is somehow viable for a 2024 run, and DeSantis opposes him, or allows his legend to be used to oppose him, DeSantis is getting fucked by the RNC. if he does not oppose a Trump 2024 campaign, he is the one doing the fucking. I’m not going to quibble with anyone over all of the external possibilities, like Trump getting arrested or assassinated, or argue about the normalcy bias factor. I think I made a pretty good stab at explaining why Trump must continue to act like he is plagued with normalcy bias, even if he is not. and the elections do not really matter in terms of the votes, all that matters are the campaigns and the electioneering and the room to organize and associate under the auspices of running a campaign. so until Trump becomes truly unviable, and this has nothing to do with media narratives or common knowledge sentiment, but the actual nuts and bolts of a campaign being run or not run, we can assess very accurately where DeSantis stands based purely on his stance regarding Trump.
I know there are a lot more factors at play, and while I think this is a very useful metric we have, it is in no way perfect or perfectly accurate. as it stands right now, DeSantis is undeniably the most based governor in current era. I still think he should eschew the presidency because it has no real power, and he can get so much more done with lasting impact for the restoration at the gubernatorial level.
Insightful.
Unfortunately, looks like winds may be blowing in bad direction by this metric?
https://www.cnn.com/2022/11/08/politics/trump-desantis-2024-warning-shot/index.html
My best guess of current Dem strategy is not to jail or kill Trump before 2024, but rather to whisper in his ear, “DeSantis is undermining you” and whisper in DeSantis’s ear, “Just distance yourself from Trump and the crown is yours.”
Result: Trump wins an ugly primary, picks another subpar running mate, GOP electorate divided, pump Biden full of steroids and amphetamines, rerun 2020 playbook. Replace Biden puppet with Kamala puppet sometime after 2024 as necessary.
Best-case scenario: even if Trump takes bait, DeSantis plays it cool and supports Trump 2024 in exchange for running mate status and implied 2028-2036 minimum tenancy at PA ave. Biden can no longer be propped up with any amount of amphetamines and Dems forced to run someone like Newsom v. Trump. Trump’s normality bias is just an act and he staffs everything with loyalists this time, reshaping the system to disempower our enemies forever.
Sadly, I doubt the above is very likely because I doubt Trump has adequately learned his lessons, which should include not throwing people like Steve Bannon (and now, potentially, his best running mate, DeSantis) under the bus all the time.
If that is true, 2nd-best case scenario is DeSantis plays it smart vis-a-vis both Trump and left/media; refuses to denounce Trump even if Trump says mean things about him in public. Left overplays hand and makes it functionally illegal for Trump to run in 2024 or even outright arrests/murders him; DeSantis takes on the Trump mantle only not hampered by normality bias and Trump’s other foibles.
Interesting analysis. One thing that bothers me to no end is how quickly our own side is willing to just take the bait and swallow it. 2 years of vaxx shilling and punishment are forgotten in 2 minutes, and every conservative is on the same side as CNN, NATO, and the Cathedral regarding UKR. 30 seconds after the red wave becomes the red trickle due to blatant fraud, online conservatives start regurgitating MSM talking points about Trump and DeSantis. With friends like these, who needs enemies. It’s just further proof that lacking memetic sovereignty means no real possibility of coordination or victory.
So DeSantis will have to somehow stay in bed with the RNC and not get fucked, stay on top of his state that is firmly in the fed crosshairs, and not be seduced by an army of dipshit conservatives who have always been anti-Trump begging him to be their conserva-daddy. If he manages to keep humble, let Trump Train barrel through 2024 and generate scores of unforced errors, he will truly be positioned to ascend.
…but I don’t think he will. I think he’s already been wooed by the RNC types, and is just quietly letting them replace his own loyalists. We should know fairly soon how successful the Uniparty operation is; if DeSantis doesn’t quash the anti-Trump activities being done in his name, he has been subdued pretty explicitly.
Trump attacking DeSantis in the face of his wins makes Trump look like a weak, jealous tool. he also continues to shill the vax in the face of his own supporters booing him. all the ways he cucked during the floyd riots and stolen election is an unrecoverable error. he had his shot and he blew it.
Mental decline in old age…
This is the Republican downfall they planned for him and Trump walked into it. The smart move would be to leave Trump alone to wither on the vine, but they’re going to make a martyr of him.
You’re not paranoid enough. Every manlet repeating the Media’s talking points is either controlled opposition or under the influence of controlled opposition. I saw the order 66 go out, and all those controlled cuckservitives started repeating the lines that been long prepared for them.
So is Javier controlled opposition?
Not that I can tell. He’s describing Trump walking into the Cathedral trap. He doesn’t appear to be part of the trap. If he’s saying DeSantis will save us, then yes part of the trap.
Yes. Neither of them are going to win though because DeSantis almost lost due to cheating the 1st time he ran for governor its just they didn’t have quite enough fake ballots to steal it for Gillum the gay black meth addict. DeSantis shut the cheating down afterwords but he didn’t have his own cheating operation.
The only Republican who seems to have their own cheating operation is Kari Lake. And only a Republican with their own cheating operation can possibly win. Hate to have to back a woman but shes the only game in town with a chance of winning
Now maybe DeSantis has learned since his 1st run for governor… but idk.
I don’t see how Lake, DeSantis, or Trump could win the presidency because even if Lake cleans up Arizona like DeSantis has done with Florida, the Dems have cemented fraud in Georgia, Michigan, PA, and Wisconsin which gives them a permanent electoral collage win. So Anglin is right. If they are going to win anyway, might as well make Trump the candidate to make it interesting.
Maybe they would allow a Uniparty candidate like Pence or Romney to win but that’s it.
I’m not saying Lake can make the next election clean, I’m saying that Lake might catch the Democrats by surprise with her own industrial mail in ballot operation.
I highly doubt she’ll run after being governor for two years… but the only way a Republican can win is with their own massive cheating operation.
I get what you’re saying, but how could she possibly run a cheating operation in PA/WI/MI. These states are completely locked down with insane Democrat Governors and corrupt Democrat Mayors in the highly corrupt cities. I guess maybe she could bribe the right people if she has the connections but this isn’t her home turf.
I think we are trending toward a Roman system where the Uniparty Political Elite cements permanent rule over the Senate/Presidency and the right-wing Populists have increased power in the House that acts like a pseudo-Tribune of the Plebs as well as some rogue state Governorships like Florida and Arizona.
Interestingly, with such a small lead in the House (something like 4 seats) a coalition of Bobert/Gaetz/Gosar/Greene could theoretically block a McCarthy speakership which is sort of hilarious. A small Republican lead is actually great for the actual right-wing and terrible for the Republican establishment.
“I get what you’re saying, but how could she possibly run a cheating operation in PA/WI/MI.”
The way Caesar got to be Consul… money (from Crassus in his case Caesar at the time had no money). Lots of it…
She would need a big backer like Musk.
PredictIt now has Hobbs as the favorite so it looks like they are stealing it from Lake anyway.
A Republican who ran a successful cheating operation would be behind bars in a matter of months. The cheating only works because the institutions and the press deliberately ignore it. Oppose them, and they’re going to be uncharacteristically curious about electoral irregularities, and they will find and roll up your whole scheme quite easily.
This is what I was thinking when the idea was floated that Lake was fighting fire with fire, because to fight fire/fire in this case means to leverage negros, minorities, illegals, single moms, urban districts, city/county/state bureaucratic operatives, election manipulation NGOs and nonprofits… where would she get all this stuff?
Its doable but takes money… in all but a major election the fraud would not be called out because the Democrats dont want to admit it exists. If Trump did it hed be arrested for it though.
Well see how the results play out.
I’m going to take a stab at articulating the voter fraud operation in general as I understand it based on personal experience and personal observations. I’m sure the movie 2000 mules or many other sources are better suited to this than I am, so please forgive any errors or stupidity.
there appears to be three segments to any given voter fraud operation:
There’s the lower level, which is the nuts and bolts of collecting ballots or generating ballots or what have you. This level is motivated, almost completely, by cash within its leadership, and by zeal or cash in its foot soldiers. which is to say, the people going door to door are dupes either in spirit or in wallet, and the people organizing the door-to-door operation, or the transport operations, or whatever operations at this level, are doing it because it makes them money. there cannot be many politically zealous people at this level, because the politically zealous usually have inappropriate principles or ideologies for this kind of work, and would need to be cycled out or up very quickly before they become jaded and therefore likely to leak information. your best bet would be for people who are tired of selling dime bags, but have no other skill set.
At the middle level there appears to be one part political operatives from the national scene to five parts political operatives at the local scene. both of these parts care about money to some degree, but they are doing what they are doing to increase their status and power within their chosen political framework. I can tell you from personal experience that there is almost no dollar amount that makes flying into and out of cities every couple of days to deal with locals that have a chip on their shoulder worth it. it is thankless work no matter why you are doing it, everyone beneath you despises you, and everyone above you disrespects you. The only reason you do it is because you have no other option, or you have no other way to get to a better place. Yes, there are moments where you get to buy everyone’s drinks, or make some big decision, or get a pat on the head by whichever daddy runs your department but these are few and far between. To see these people in action, you would have to surveil many locations, including but not limited to campaign headquarters, campaign workers homes, and the hotel where they are staying (that last one is super critical). otherwise, these people are veritable ghosts, flitting in and out of the operation by seeming whimsy.
The upper level appears to be composed of state level bigwigs in terms of the under organization, but functionaries in terms of the media centric organization. If you’ve ever worked in a bureaucracy, you know there are people who do most of the work and get most things done, but because they are ugly or overweight or just unpalatable for some reason, they never get to stand in the limelight. Occasionally, one will slip into the winners circle, and I think the Hobbs lady in AZ is an example of this. I have to assume that there are national level operatives who manage this kind of thing, but because they sit at nexii of fraud too numerous to count, they must be truly scum people who have absolutely no morals or principles while also being completely trustworthy or controlled by their masters. There’s always the chance that their strange configuration of principles allows them to do very great evil and feel like they are doing the right thing. parenthetically, this is why I don’t think conservatives will ever be good at voter fraud; they just don’t have the right configuration. These people almost never actually involve themselves with the operations, instead they just send emails and make phone calls.
My limited contact with a framework outlined above was very murky, and I had to deduce much. in terms of the explanations I have shared here, I don’t have any physical evidence to provide, and the case was dropped when the money “ran out.” This element alone taught me that even if an investigation is started into voter fraud, the nature of the apparatus is so messy, contrived, and confusing that it is unlikely it will ever be fully unearthed. This probably a feature and not a bug. If you take the time, and have the knowledge for looking at such things, I think you will find that not a single urban election occurs without an investigation or three being opened by certain “losers.” these investigations will continue until those being investigated. make the right phone calls( this is what happened to mine ).
When you look at what I described above, you should see how the DNC at the local, state, and national level is uniquely suited to running operations like this, while the RNC is terribly suited to doing such things. It is not that there is no corruption in the RNC, nor is it. the case that everyone in the DNC is a scummy former drug dealer. but the preponderance is slanted heavily towards the DNC. I mean, what else are you going to do with all the black people you hire, amirite lmao. whatever the case, an operation like this is the coalescence of many different types of organization, outfit, and operator. it is not stood up overnight, but develops over long periods of time within local and state elections. I have no experience with national level politics, so I have no idea what a national operation would look like, but my guess would be you would have a clutch of national level managers who are forced to work with many different state and local level operations.
The big takeaway for me is that any kind of voter fraud operation could be very easily dismantled by a handful of smart young men with the proper toys. The only reason these operations continue is that the chance for getting caught or punished seems to be very, very low. with no consequences, why not just do it? If consequences are introduced into the environment, my guess is that many participants would check out very, very quickly. besides that scenario, though, it is very unlikely that official investigations would do anything but stutter step voter fraud for a very brief time.
“Maybe they would allow a Uniparty candidate like Pence or Romney to win but that’s it.”
No, they decided to cut the cuckservatives out of any major decision making. Cuckservatives aren’t good but they do sometimes ask reasonable questions like where is our energy going to come from if we stop the oil…
So will they won’t they hoax the senate? My 8ball says DeSantis is an enemy, because i dont like his stupid face, and their play is to demoralize maga, reconstruct the rino establishment around desantis, give him 2024 to reestablish normality, postpone the civil war, and go ww3.
On the other hand, desantis hasnt given me much reason to dislike him except his face and his cheerleaders.
They could shill their hearts out for him without him being in league with satan. Every single person i talk to believe the toxic trump fairy tale, unless they have hardened their hearts with rightous wrath and know the grim darkness at the enemys core. So it’s certainly working.
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You presuppose a blatantly fraudulent election result was perfectly legitimate, and that everyone, including us, knows and agrees it was perfectly legitimate.
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https://twitter.com/RWApodcast/status/1590787553132957696
I think RWA is mostly correct here. There was no deal for Kherson. The supply situation was dangerous and the Russians just don’t like the risks.
What I don’t know is why RF hasn’t continued the strategic bombing campaign, the Ukrainian grid is already on the brink. Maybe they are timing the collapse for an offensive.
Why do we here at this blog, who know that voting and democracy are fake and gay, repeatedly fall into the trap of caring about elections? I am including myself in that, I could even be the worst offender. We spend hundreds of hours and millions of words discussing and proving that it is This Way, but then an election rolls around, or mainstream media sings a continued chorus, or some red-tinted blue check says a thing, and suddenly we are debating the finer points under the predicate that things are actually That Way?
Here’s what we know:
We know that America is a Uniparty State. The DNC manages the inner party, the RNC manages the outer party. While there may have been a brace of decades in the 20th century wherein there were substantial factions on the fringes, we have no such thing now. Anyone that is able to obtain office in current era does so by participating in the Uniparty System.
We know that to engage with an evil institution is to allow evil into ones heart and/or mind. When we let evil in, for whatever reason, evil gets the better of us. So even if you start out in a dominant position, the insidious nature of evil is that time will always be on its side. The only possible way to engage with evil successfully is to shake its hand while simultaneously jamming a knife in its eye. Anything less is Isildur declining to cast the ring.
We know that all issues of society and politics are downstream from the Woman Question. There is no incremental solution, no quick fix, to the issues in our society. This means that no female can get us closer to a Restoration (at best they can retard or pause the spiral), that no leader who is not RPWQ compliant can get us closer to a Restoration, and that anyone who is purple or blue pilled is our enemy, either unwittingly or wittingly.
We know that there is no chance of peaceful victory via the ballot box. Participating in voting is at best mental masturbation and at worst spiritual sodomy. Therefore, anyone who advocates voting is a wanker or a faggot. So anyone shilling for participation is either ignorant or evil, and evil need not be countenanced.
Taking what we know, how do we apply it to ourselves and our internal dynamics, then move forward productively with confidence? Am I wrong on any of the We Know things, and if so how so?
Because, while the entire West and indeed almost all of the so-called “democracies” really are uniparty Harvard vassals under demon-worshiping regimes, it is actually mighty hard to have uravnilovka even among the members of the nomenklatura, not to mention ordinary people.
So, now and then, there might appear some… Mule, who might shake Die Ordnung with support of some un-normies.
Possible development of such situation might be worth of monitoring.
Right now, for example, I do have some faint interest in casual watching of my President Milanović because he really did say and dona some quite unexpected words and deeds.
What can I say? The Democracy Wizard is effective at hiding the Man Behind the Curtain. If it didn’t work they’d be using something else.
It is very hard not to get caught up in the idea that you have power over the state and something big and important is going to happen due to your actions. The system thus does exactly what Yarvin says it does, placating the Id with a feeling of fighting a battle without any such thing actually occurring, and leaving the Ego sated for a time, sapping away the urge to actually threaten power.
https://ibb.co/LSyzP7R
The election is not to gauge the way people are feeling, but it is an insight into the way the politics behind the scenes are playing out. We know there is going to be fraud, but the form the fraud takes is illustrative.
>an insight into the way the politics behind the scenes are playing out.
Even the ruling class has limited insight into how politics are playing out behind the scenes. Sometimes you get unexpected outcomes that even surprise them as well but only after things shake out so to speak.
Elections help gauge the current political structure and health of the system. That is still interesting and informative. That’s why we care about elections even if we don’t believe in elections.
Just one interesting takeaway is that Fetterman’s win is confirmation that Biden, should he survive, will likely win 2024.
Biden faction(I think it’s Red Ron’s faction) is feeling very embolden for pulling this fake and gay election smoothly. I think the real pain is just about to start for the American people.
I’m uncertain about Ron DeSantis. I may be reading too much of Rod Dreher’s work. DeSantis is one of the few to even speak against the complete horror and evil of child mutilation on the fake alter of transgender satanists. That’s such a low standard it shouldn’t be something to applause and yet here we are. Today in America, underage children can be groomed and given HRT without parental consent or knowledge.
It’s likely that DeSantis is just a younger and more sane version of Biden 30 years younger minus the child head sniffing, but that by itself makes him unpalatable to the Biden faction today. Enough so that DeSantis may realize that he has to become a king to survive.
>I think the real pain is just about to start
The pain is already real. 6,000 veteran suicides a year. It’s likely double that due to under-counting. I know people in that community. I fucking hurts. 100,000 opioid ODs a year. I see addict on the street every time I drive outside my sheltered upper class community. Alcoholism is through the roof and I admit I contributed earlier this year to that as well. I never reported it, and knowing that most people would not report such a thing, alcoholism is likely far higher than what the statistics show.
I agree though that the pain will ratchet up significantly.
I’ll shed a tear for the vets when they show a tenth the zeal they had for distributing sodomite literature to mudskins to defending our country from collapse. As it stands, any Fed foot soldier that wants to jump the line to his deserved punishment can be my fucking guest.
Harsh, understandable, but harsh. Many, if not most, of the (white) kids who end up in combat arms are boys who never had the opportunity to become men and are in search of a trial, a telos, to become the men modern society won’t let them become. They latch onto the traditional trial of war only to find the war was fake and the telos gay.
Initially, they don’t see themselves as the GAE foot soldiers they really are, and when they do… well suicide rates are high and over representation of vets at Jan 6 happens for a reason.
Most of the nation, especially white America, still operates under heavy normalcy bias and the results are tragic. To those who understand the reality, these people are as you put it:
It’s not wrong to think that. It may even be righteous. It’s still damn tragic.
If you apply the Good Fruit test to DeSantis, he appears to be a good man. He’s in Bed with our foes but we’ve yet to see any bad fruit from him. He’s done nothing but good things for Florida. He’s being used by our foes(likely with his consent) to distract the right on vote rigging.
It’s a weird plan the elites put together. They want to get rid of Trump without a civil war, so they’re grooming a substitute Trump they control to replace him. That’s the same game they played with the tea party, but men are not a movements, they can stop being controlled if they desire it.
We have accepted the burden of performance that comes with life. We build, fix and preserve. For the powerless, which is probably all of us here, all we can do is make the best of it. And we should if only for our families and loved ones. But it is easy to fall into the trap of fixing progressivism. We are much better than normiecon enablers though.
I did not vote. Not to be dramatic but it was kind of a sad day. But it was necessary. We owe it to our children and their future families to be the hardest SOBs on the block should we face immediate grave danger.
The left may be robbing us of our present, but if we stay sharp and stay on track we will be in place when the opportunity comes to take the future.
Care about elections? We all predicted the election would be fake and gay. I didn’t end up voting after Jim’s warning the other day and frankly I just didn’t want to feel invested in something that was fake and gay. Watching how the fraud went down was very interesting, far more so than if the GOP had their menstrual blood wave into victory. The GOP is all female leaderships these only because the Cathedral finds that funny that the GOP is lead by wymins.
By far the most interesting thing was how many people I fallowed on twitter turned out to be controlled opposition shilling for the cathedral line on Trump. Only 1 out 10 of the people I regularly read passed that test.
Also
https://twitter.com/TheLastRefuge2/status/1590473694803288064
>The GOP is all female leaderships
A record number of
affirmative actionBlack men in the leadership as well.Also the first GOP Open Cocker Sucker in congress. It’s the Dems from 5 years ago instead of 20.
How hilarious is this? Basically agreeing with every neo-reactionary ever
https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/politics/it-s-the-women-stupid/ar-AA13YepJ?ocid=entnewsntp&pc=U531&cvid=0f2c715395f54f85ba6e70aae1641a72
the conclusion of that article is that women have power and should be appeased, when the truth is that women obey power and need to be led. There are simply more women owned by the state than ever before.
All I see in an article trying to convince me that the steal that happened in front of my eyes didn’t happen.
All polls that weren’t fake and gay showed that no one care about abortion expect far left feminists.
Single women ruining Democracy is more a manosphere thing. Democracy being evil and destructive is a NRX thing.
Both. In Democracitish governments the franchise started off with responsible men of property, but the franchise tends to expand according to the equality principle.
Its hard to deny the franchise to men who have to fight in war even if landless proles at 1st and so they get it… then so do minorities and women.
The only virtue of democracy is a vote having the same outcome if a revolution were held on the subject. Giving the franchise to militarily weak groups like minorities or especially women destroys that one virtue.
So wait
Hold up Jehu
Are you claiming that it is NOT a virtue for the weak and incompetent to lead? COME ON!!! That’s crazy!
Trump’s normality bias isn’t going away. His reaction to the 2022 steal is to take the media bait and storm into a fight over the 2024 nomination, acting like the 2024 election isn’t going to see Biden’s corpse reelected no matter who runs.
Meanwhile, with every election normalcy bias is shrinking…
I don’t know, bro. I think Anglin is reading this one right. The war has started. DeSantis is a Trump vassal who has been seduced by the adversary. He needs to remember his place and get in line, or be vanquished like Jeb Bush before him.
I don’t see the point of a fight between DeSantis and Trump. Voting is a over. It’s just a distraction, but Trump is running full speed ahead like it matters. If he wants to lead his people, then he needs to lead them outside of trying to get elected to an elective office that’s never going to see a fair vote again.
Remember how effective the campaign against Biden’s inflation was? It nuked the media narrative entirely. That was entirely spontaneously done by the right. There’s lots of men of quality on the right but they need elite leadership.
It still amazes me that the only leader who fully grasped Information Age Warfare doesn’t get that he needs to lead religious and violent men into battle, not court votes now.
We may very well be in the situation where one (courting votes) is the fastest way to get the other (lead religious and violent men to battle). It would be trivial to hang up the phone, look around at your fellow campaigners, and say “Terry, get the keys to the gun locker.”
If Trump, an out of power former president reviled by the majority of elites announced he was forming a militia, the CIA sleepers in his security detail would arrest/assassinate him on the spot. If he announces a campaign to run for president, he actually gains added protections and privileges. I know this is all quite optimistic, but apply Occam’s razor: is it more likely that an outsider elite comes to a dangerous realization and acts OR an insider elite manages to fool all of his patrons and benefactors and controllers and acts?
The most common result is that *noone* will steer the ship away from the rocks until it crashes; once prominent men acting as if business is as usual start dropping dead in public, that is when things change.
Where were all the prominent men in Rome before Octavian became Augustus, *after* Octavian became Augustus?
The bolsheviks did not run a revolution on the Romanovs, they ran a revolution on the Kadets, who ran a coup on the Romanovs.
The media is taking Trump’s bait.
Some years ago I realized that “liberty” is not what our Lord wants of us, instead he asks us to give Him our lives.
Democracy in it of itself is an evil form of government. What has tethered western Democracies to goodness was it’s recognition of our Lord’s authority and Biblical based morals. The “democracy” that existed may have been the Venetians, who appointed the Doge as it’s leaders. 700 year long nation-state under that governance has outlasted Rome & the Greeks span.
Yes, I agree we need a King marching under Christ’s flag, a flag that bares a cross.
We must be careful and remember the lesson of King Saul. They wanted a King like the other nations had (1 Samuel 8:18) who was head a shoulders above all (1 Samuel 9:1-2) and not the one God wanted for them – so He let them have the king they desired – He gave them King Saul.
I fear a king the so-called Christians of today will choose will be the Anti-Christ before Christ will come. We may live to see.
https://thefederalist.com/2022/11/11/after-epic-failure-growing-chorus-of-senators-signals-its-time-for-mcconnell-to-go/
One of the few good things even the cuckservatives are tired of corrupt cuckservative leaders. Rubio of all people has said he wants McConnell out. Maybe some of them have realized the Democrats probably intend to murder them all in the not too far future.
McConnell burned all his bridges trying to so openly to lose GOP seats. There’s not going to have any donors left by next year if they don’t put a new cathedral approved bitch in charge. Lindsey Graham for Senate Fag leader?
Big question is, why would anyone bother contributing to the GOP now? Changing leadership doesn’t change the basic dynamics of the steal. If voting doesn’t matter, then it doesn’t make sense to support a political party. I hadn’t thought about it before, but with the end of voting mattering, Dems will be the defacto single party state simply because there won’t be any low level republicans left running the GOP machine. They’ll walk away.
They ain’t getting a dime from me unless they want to form a paramilitary wing.
If DeSantis is interested in becoming a king, he might do that.
Has DeSantis said a single word about Arizona or Nevada? What kind of king goes silent while outright electoral theft is waved in our faces once again? Is this our Caesar?
Is complaining about it doing anything? Even counter rigging failed in Arizona. Only armed men “protecting” the counting process and insure fair elections.
Trump talks a lot about elections being being and he’s right. What he doesn’t do is provide a solution to the problem. In Florida DeSantis sent in armed men in to make sure elections couldn’t be rigged.
I’m deeply uneasy about DeSantis. He’s clearly in bed with our enemies but he’s also the only man who’s provided fair elections and seems to know that the Republic is dead. I wouldn’t trust DeSantis as far as I can throw him, but if he wants to be king, then his policies will overlap with what’s good for the American people.
> provide fair elections
> know the republic is dead
You have to choose one, for each negates the other.
Florida’s Republican form of government isn’t dead. But it doesn’t scale to a national level, hence the American Republic is dead.
If he knows the elections are dead, he will simply consolidate in Florida rather than trying to be elected as US President.
While he probably doesn’t need to, I hope he is rigging the Florida elections.
Don’t think so Orlando elected a leftist radical as Congressman. He doesn’t need to though for now…
Some news org was looking for a Charlie Crist supporter in one area and admitted they couldn’t find one.
I can see why Jim views current news as a distraction:
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/11/number-gop-seats-house-dwindling-will-dems-steal-house/
Looks like they’re stealing the house too. It would be better for the normalcy faction not to steal the house, but that doesn’t appear to be stopping individual dems who don’t want to give up their seats, so far.
Nevada is the most blatant example. They shut off the cameras like it was Epstine’s cell for 8 hours, and the Dems suddenly have a huge infusion of votes into the counting area. Funny that.
acceleration: its going to wake up a lot of normies that all the tossup races went democratic… what a coincidence! They cant afford to give up power now no matter how bad it looks. Congressional investigation powers are pretty broad as has been proven.
Congressional investigative powers are broad if your a Democrat. They’re next to nonexistent if you’re a Republican. The DOJ and the courts have to agree in order to force compliance, which they obviously won’t with a Republican request.
Like I said, I doubt it’s the normalcy faction driving it. Rather it’s individual Dems working in their own self interest using the existing fraud machinery. We’ll see if they can stomp on the breaks to prevent it.
>acceleration: its going to wake up a lot of normies that all the tossup races went democratic… what a coincidence!
All the pre-ellection toss ups already went Dem. It’s the races that heavily favored Republicans or that the Republicans did much better than expected that are flipping Dem now.
I think I called it pretty well, but I may have been wrong on the power center, and the mainstream left might belatedly go over to the radical position.
There is no moderate left its a question of methods…
I disagree, but it’s near as makes no difference, because my observations apply to the immediate, and your observation applies to the sum total over time. both are correct, with yours being more valuable because it’s correct in the long run. however moderate a leftist might be, at some point he will be consumed by his radical litter mates.
The US census count was also corrupted to give more Democrat seats.
Like corrupt media/tech in elections, it can’t be rewound once it settles in.
Please don’t stop grinding on the snarks and the cryptostuff, Jim. You were right. It’s all “resistance†from here on.
Given what you’ve been learning about snarks and stuff, how far might we be from a “Snark Twitterâ€, where everyone gets one ~300 character post per day, assuming he has to pay $1 for it?
omg midwitz unite! I had an idea similar to this many years ago for a website that I used to spend too much time on. I hated how there was no cost to making comments, and people would just try to gain up votes by farming out hundreds of posts and thousands of comments. My idea was that the website, on some certain date, would reset everything to zero and you would get a finite number of upvotes allowed per day. you could still comment and post as much as you wanted, but everyone else only had something like 10 upvotes per day. If you exceeded the limit it would start to subtract from their upvotes on their posts or comments elsewhere. if they had none, well then they were SOL. I thought that the site could be maintained in terms of its community culture while adding a good structure of limitation that would make people think thrice before uploading any old post.
I think $1 is way too high. as Jim always says, ideas are two cents a bail, and I don’t know what that conversion works out to, so maybe just a penny a post. The posts could then appreciate over time as they get upvoted or go viral or whatever. some numbersfag would have to work out the proper system of appreciation and depreciation.
This is the sibyl attack. A hostile party pretends to be one hundred thousand parties. Uses a combination of computer generated content and human content by supervised low status staff with computer assisted generation.
One solution is one man with unlimited and arbitrary authority over the site. That is this blog, but this solution does not scale.
So, multiple moderators. Each of whom has a certain share, a certain ownership right, in moderation. Perhaps purchased. Each periodically gets a high moderation rank, with a high rank happening proportional to his share. Each gets a rank of N+1 for half the time he gets a rank of N, and a rank of N+2 a quarter the time and so on and so forth. For any moderation decision, the decision made by the moderator that was highest rank sticks.
‘Like’ systems are HIV positive.
>i will just post however i normally post regardless and the likes will be what they’ll be
Nope. You will feel the clawed fist of social expectation take a grip on your tender brainmeats, and squish and bend and reshape it to its whim. You will, consciously or otherwise, start posting more in ways that will get you more likes, and stay silent about things that don’t get likes.
Blown hither and tither by the winds of validation, reasoning only so far as to rationalize… sound familiar?
This. What’s wrong with a simple straightforward PHPBB forum?
It is fine software and a fine solution to creating a forum, though like WordPress has some horrifying security holes designed to be friendly to our enemies and useful for destroying people like us. It took me some time to find, fix or partially workaround all the WordPress security holes, and would probably take a while to do the same for PHPBB.
But it is orthogonal to the problem that moderation does not scale.
It would be very very valuable if you would document those security holes in WordPress.
Too bad I can’t “like” this here.
You aren’t wrong m’Lord. Indeed, you rarely are.
While I breathe, I fight. When I fight, I lose. Though I lose, I breathe. While I breathe…
I’m not surprised that I’m midwit on this subject, but Jim’s been struggling toward decentralized moderation models, that can both function and scale, not get instantly shut down by the man, and at least theoretically address both the shill and censorship problems. Shit ain’t easy, even on paper.
GOP base appears to have rolled over accepted
1. these elections are basically legitimate
2. the path forward is to appoint the candidate the MSM says is their best choice
I’ve got no brief against DeSantis but the MSM is telling Republican voters that he is their best choice and Republican voters are just accepting it again.
Even after covid, now that fraud is plausibly deniable Republicans just go back to believing the same guys that scammed them a dozen times are honest without specific evidence to the contrary.
in 2 years DeSantis will be “worse than Trump.” the media will turn Trump back into a lovable rascal and say he was just dumb, while DeSantis is the new super hitler
Low IQ take. Libs refer to Trump not just as Hitler but guilty of committing sedition which is nothing close to the rhetoric used against DeSantis or any other prior Republican.
The DeSantis = human trafficker seed has already been planted over the Martha’s Vineyard affair.
Pales in comparison to any anti-Trump rhetoric, tard. Libs in the media regularly call for sedition charges against Trump.
Can the insults corona Karen, if DeSantis ecclipses Trump they’ll turn it up to 11 with him too.
And it doesn’t matter anyway, DeSantis isn’t so free of normalcy bias hes willing to unleash the campaign of minecrafting and bribery turned up to 11 to break into power against the left’s current stranglehold on both elections and institutions and also even if he did know it would take enormous amounts of money and some way of insulating himself from counter minecrafting and prosecution (the money would help with this but not sufficient alone).
DeSantis is more a gray introverted less charismatic figure than Trump so obviously the emotional impact of the propaganda will be a bit more limited but DeSantis will also get 95% negative MSM coverage once he becomes the Cathedral’s heel.
DeSantis is a fat gay establishment GOP shill. Get ready for the DeSantis-Tim Scott ticket.
Its a moot point no republican will ever win again…
Gay Republicans like Youngkin can still win which means fat gay shill DeSantis can still win but it’s meaningless because it will ultimately be a return to Con Inc 2.0. No MAGA candidate will win again ever in a battleground state unless it’s in the house.
“Pales in comparison to any anti-Trump rhetoric, tard.”
First of all, calm the fuck down. The stays on your corset are obviously too tight.
Second, The rhetoric against DeSatnis isn’t as bad as against Trump because Desantis hasn’t ever been the GOP nominee for President.
Pretty random thing to get upset over. It’s a historical take FYI, all republican monsters are demoted when the next one steps up to bat. In any case, we shall see.
The cathedrals economic and social ideology is Marxist, where Trump is a capitalist. Desantis is not progressive, and openly rejects wokeism, but to them at least he is a priest.
Florida has had a construction boom going on 6 years now, even through Covid things barely slowed down. Considering he has navigated a couple of very severe hurricanes, Covid, 2020 election and now locked down the 2022 elections successfully I can’t see how he would be controlled opposition.
The lefts judgement is piss poor, and likely to be different tomorrow than today. If you look at the fruit, Trump and Desantis are much the same. If anything I would guess Desantis has more character and integrity than Trump. He does not seem to have the troubles Trump did.
DeSantis is less prone to trusting his enemies but i dont think it matters…
No Republican will win.
DeSantis might if he forms a paramilitary wing in every state. Trump should form a paramilitary wing, but I think it’s far too late for him.
Best case Desantis aligns with elite defectors. Desantis is a priest, which is what we need. He’s going to try get as far as he can, let’s hope he ends up in a holy war with progressivism.
“GOP base appears to have rolled over accepted
1. these elections are basically legitimate”
I want to push back against this. Just earlier today I read an MSM article bewailing the fact that only around a third of Republican voters accept the 2020 outcome as legitimate.
On a related point, I’d also like to push back against the idea that conservatives are afraid to mention the electoral fraud. I, at least, am not feeling any fear.
It’s quite telling that every toss up race in the house broke for the Democrats. They can rig house races, but they only targeted the ones that were projected to be close for the pre-ellection fraud. I think it’s likely they’ll take the house as they’re still printing votes in a bunch of areas, but I think the normalcy faction would prefer to lose the house by a slim margin. Appears more legitimate that way.
People are terrified of calling out the fraud. Biden’s threats combined with the raids on the pro-lifers worked. People had a legitimate reason to worry that being to vocal about fraud will result in a FBI raid.
Jim called this election exactly right.
Yeah i thought they can only rig the urban political machines but i guess with billions of dollars and voting machines…
With this election they have complete control of MI, PA, WI, AZ election systems, to add to what we knew they already controlled New England and the western states. AZ and GA look lost, CO, has been lost. GOP has control of smaller rural states, plus OH, FL, TX, KY, TN. Might be able to recover NC, and NV with this election but probably not voting our way out anyway.
Im guessing 2024 will be the last election where a majority view it as normal. Polling doesnt matter.
They just can’t help themselves.
Nah its demoralization/humiliation for those who realize whats happening while at the same time the NPCs swallow the free and fair elections BS.
Also the reason why they install mental defectives like Biden and Fetterman.
That too. But also, can’t help themselves. Biden isn’t purposely dementing — it’s just that he shouted ‘it’s my turn man!’ and no one could agree on a better plan.
If they still have a functional plan, who do you think will be their president post-Biden?
“That too. But also, can’t help themselves. Biden isn’t purposely dementing — it’s just that he shouted ‘it’s my turn man!’ and no one could agree on a better plan.”
Michelle Obama would have been a better plan… she can at least speak coherently and the huge urban vote numbers would have seemed somewhat plausible.
Biden was picked as a humiliation and a punishment, he was always a dumbass complete POS nasty mental defective and Obama (or Valerie Jarett) picked him because nobody was going to shoot Obama to make Biden the President.
She would have. But Michelle Obama didn’t want the role. Depression. Per usual, women and politics don’t mix well.. They are stuck with Biden. But do they have a plan post-Biden?
I guess the dream would be DeSantis as controlled opposition president. Maybe they can pull that off. But will be increasingly hard to pull off an outer-party president.
They aren’t really in control anymore. If anyone is in control, it’s the devil, or from a non-religious standpoint, entropy. They’re riding the tiger almost as much as we are at this point.
The Democrats would never accept DeSantis as a controlled op President… he’d Stalin them right out of control of the administration…
MAYBE if they had SCOTUS locked down so they could do to DeSantis what they did to Bolsonarno in Brazil but I doubt it. DeSantis has pretty near absolute control of the government in Florida the Democrats would never let someone like that near the Presidency after their near death experience under Trump until the Jesuit virus hoax enabling both a loss of popularity of Trump + massive massive fraud
saved them…
It will be Newsom. California is their model for the entire USA. He’s tall and good-looking, with nice hair so women will voat for him in droves.
Voting is irrelevant. They do not care about votes any more.
If (((they))) don’t care, why do they work so hard at seeming to care?
To keep up appearances. The left is habitually trying to have their cake and eat it too.
To misdirect the efforts of any genuine opposition.
Absolutely hilarious: https://www.onenewspage.com/video/20221113/15109187/Evidence-of-Midterms-Election-fraud-2022.htm
Jim is right.
1) All meaningful elections in battleground/”toss-up” states are rigged with blatant fraud conducted by those who count the votes with Republicans having exactly zero control over those who count the votes. Any election not rigged in a battleground is ultimately not very meaningful in the grand scheme of things, probably because the Republican is just an approved establishment GOP shill.
2) Stupid oblivious Republican voters, even some on this blog and the dissident right at large, are just willingly chalking the losses up to abortion, bad candidates, etc and ready to slurp down the “Let’s vote harder for DeSantis and Rick Scott in 2024!” rhetoric being force fed to them by Fox News and every mainstream conservative outlet. This means nothing will change and we are likely in for many many more election cycles of normalcy bias.
Voting no longer mattered in the Roman Republic when the elite just killed Tiberius Gracchus in 133 BC because they didn’t like his policies. Then they killed his brother for the same thing 10 years later (after blatantly frauding him out of an election). It went on like that until finally, Caesar did something about it 80 years later.
I would expect that type of normalcy bias to last until 2100 or so with the blatantly fake elections and Republicans continuing to vote harder until finally a Caesar does something about it. Won’t be in our lifetimes unless someone here is like 10 or something.
Tim Scott*
After Gracchus came Sulla. Concentrated full power in hands of the Optimates and put down the Populists (oversimplified). If the Trump wing is Gracchus, a Democratic Establishment Sulla/Napoleon type will start to consolidate power in a few years, and will start by putting down violent populist rebellions.
Elections in the Roman Republic were normal until about 56 or 53 BC. Caesar crosses the Rubicon in 49 BC. Four to seven years. But it was only retrospectively apparent that Caesar was the end of normal.
Normality bias continued till the assassination of Caesar 44 BC, so if we say blatant rigging 53BC, assassination of Caesar 44BC, nine years.
The Roman time table my be different from ours as they did elections every year instead of every 2 years. And a lot of our offices are 4-6 year positions.
The election of Gaius Gracchus was completely abnormal in 121 BC. He gathered a group of supporters and attempted to stop the steal. He was subsequently murdered and all his supporters were arrested and swiftly executed.
Normality bias continued till the assassination of Caesar 44 BC, so if we say blatant rigging 121BC, assassination of Caesar 44BC, 77 years.
[*bogus reasons for hating our parents, hating mainstream conservatives, and hating everyone progressives hate deleted*]
Bill said:
I’m not convinced that’s going on Republican voters. I’m seeing an endless wall of shill comments saying that and real fear from the people pointing out the fraud, so much so they’re tying themselves in knots saying fraud without saying the word fraud. You really need to differentiate between shills, controlled opposition and real people.
The steal was well handled initially, but now they are stealing seats back with late manufactured ballots in a lot of house races and the steal in both Nevada (cameras mysteriously go off for 9 hours and then the Dem is sudden winning) and in Arizona is really killing their narrative.
I am seeing very little calling out of the blatant fraud even on Twitter by anonymous right wing accounts. There are a few, but conservatives, right-wingers, and Republicans are twisting themselves in knots trying to give reasons why the Republicans didn’t win big enough and moving on to 2024 as if that election is even relevant with mass vote-by-mail fraud.
Everyone knows Arizona and Nevada were blatantly stolen. I see very little outrage over it and even still some foolish Q-Anon/”Patriots in Control” hope that Lake can still win by big right wing accounts. These people are just sad or possibly even evil and using it as pure grift for stupid Republican hopes.
Bronze age pervert and Loki are calling it out. Also there’s no such thing as anonymous on twitter. If the FBI decides to investigate you for election interference via misinformation, posting on twitter will get you a FBI raid. Most for the move on people are RINO shills or controlled opposition.
People are scared to say fraud and the comments are filled will shills given every reason in the book why it’s not fraud. Go over to the Donald for some actual reaction. They’re better at removing shills than most.
Shilling operations are designed to discourage and gaslight. They form comment blocks agreeing with each other and follow a particular pattern that’s easy to see once you’ve seen a few similar shill comment blocks. Often they try to claim on the ground authority that they knew that X is going on, not fraud.
You can’t expect people without elite leadership or good moderation to overcome shills. It’s a highly effective model.
The opinion of masses are just shaped by those with authority. It’s hierarchical. And those with any type of Republican following, even huge Trump supporting accounts/personalities like Charlie Kirk and Bannon, at all are giving every reason in the world why outright mass fraud was not the reason they lost or are losing.
>Trump supporting accounts/personalities like Charlie Kirk and Bannon, at all are giving every reason in the world why outright mass fraud was not the reason they lost or are losing.
Trump’s been calling out the fraud directly but the press is only trying to play up the GOP infighting so those lines are ignored.
Not everyone is ignoring it:
https://twitter.com/midwesterneur/status/1591107748032352257?cxt=HHwWgsC4jaOE4JQsAAAA
But note that she’s not calling out the fraud directly. People are scared of what the Feds will do to them if they name the Jew(IE Fraud).
I don’t take Bannon seriously, running stuff like “we build the wall” when he knows the Dems wants his head was seriously stupid. Total legal charity scam, but he of all people should know that such scams are only for Democrats.
Yeah I think you’re right. Ultimately I think the right starts to use their own bribery/fraud like Caesar did but I think we are still decades away from that. Normalcy bias takes generations to die, not mere years.
Things are moving very fast now. Roman was a pretty stable system because it was mostly run by Conservatives. We’re in a leftwing holiness spiral that’s moving faster and faster.
You may be right Bill, but what about all the other ways in which the Establishment side of things is falling into chaos due to holiness spiraling and radical accelerationism? I am no specialist on Roman history, but aren’t we more similar to late stage roman empire than late stage roman republic?
Do you really think the AOC left can hold their fractious coalitions and incompetent bureaucracy together for 70+ years? We’re at war with Russia and looking to start a war with China. That does not indicate any kind of long term stability, even if it is a devolving malaise.
The AOC left has no power. They are mere pawns of the mainstream left. Did you see how fast they folded when they presented their peace plan in Ukraine?
The Roman Republic fought plenty of wars, many of them through proxy, exactly like we are doing in Ukraine. Not only that, but Russia is losing that war without a single shot being fired from the USM. How is that unstable?
I think the instability is pretty evident in terms of domestic policies and process. I said this a while back, but the international ground game of the Cathedral attracts what passes for the best and the brightest coming from the anti-seminaries. Notice how the State Department and CIA (and their various contingent NGOs/nonprofits) are very good at fake elections and color revolutions for decades, but the operations at home are sloppy. Indeed, the bovine nature of Americans is probably the biggest single factor in how these steals get pulled off; the MSM megaphone and appearance of messaging consistency keeps the right placid and the left engaged. But only up to a point; AZ TV station accidentally aired election results 12 days ahead of schedule, vote drops get caught on camera, Project Veritas seems to find no end of braggadocios political operatives spilling their guts about fraud operations. So the domestic side of the Cathedral appears, to me at least, to be very poorly managed.
I do not agree that Russia is losing the war, but they aren’t wining it yet, so we can table that aspect, but looking at the loads of American tech and assets being fielded in UKR does not suggest high quality or capacity. It is often blamed on the average Hohol being unable to operate all the super awesome and infallible American technology they’re being given, but that is starting to ring false. The Antonovsky bridge got HIMARS’d endlessly and still stood, then was brough down by a single controlled det by the RF. The RF bombs Ukraine with impunity, and all the advanced air defense systems seem unable to stop them (this seems to be the case in Saudi Arabian oil fields as well).
I don’t know how long you’ve been here (new pseudo or whatever) but we have discussed at length the concept of Tech Decline. With the tools extant, a capable Cathedral apparatus could do amazing things, yet they seem hard pressed to keep anything goin, and they are not adapting well to changing circumstances. In a vacuum, in a world with a single power managed by a capable and competent elite and a sea of vassals controlled by their agents, I do think the Cathedral could have a very long half life of Brezhnevian Malaise and incremental decline. But I wonder how much of the competency we see is actually the CCP propping up their best customer.
Yes, shilling works.
The intent, however, is not to persuade but to gaslight.
They do not actually expect to deceive anyone with their story. They expect to deceive each person that he is a minority of one in noticing the obvious truth.
They’ve been pretty effective at gaslighting. The fear of FBI raids + better social medial controls is probably helping.
They’re probably being more subtle about it this time around. I was banned on multiple accounts for pointing out fraud in 2020 but they did it in manner where people noticed the bannings and took up the same call. Today they’re probably using shadow bans and ensuring that comments about fraud are orphans with no replies, IE no believes that.
BAP is bending over backwards trying to give reasons why mass vote-by-mail fraud was not the reason for all the losses. Apparently he’s saying ‘It’s all the boomers’ fault for not getting out the vote! We just need better voter outreach so we can vote harder!”
Pathetic and sad and just another right-wing grifter trying to get money from people subscribing to his faggoty podcast. All these people are grifters.
https://twitter.com/KhalkeionGenos/status/1592362638125985793
Grift-Wing is a serious problem. It is like some version of the bandit world/no honor amongst thieves issue. By being a dissident sphere, we will have an inordinate number of grifters, or an ordinate amount of opportunities to grift. I’m not excusing it, and BAP should be better than that; his book is excellent.
https://youtu.be/QoqIsoWqPiU
Milquetoast Midwit being even more explicit about potential voter fraud.
Here’s midwit Poole trying to point near the truth lol:
https://youtu.be/QoqIsoWqPiU
More faux-dissident pointing out the “not-fraud.”
https://youtu.be/Z8lmPdullY8
We can’t reasonably expect everyone to sacrifice their platforms to name the steal. But the fact that Voices are opening the door to potential skullduggery indicates that we are not in the same place we were in 2020 November. For every one “conservative” voice doing this, there are probably 10 pretending it was abortion, or Trump, or some other fake and gay reason. But the failure of the red wave to wash up on the shore of events could push endemic fraud towards the Overton Window. This doesn’t fix anything, mind, but it does show that the Cathedral has not completely consolidated media, not yet.
so are we at a point analogous to 2014 (when it looked hopelessly like Obamaworld forever), only more so?
There is no right wing dictator coming to save us in this lifetime. Work on bettering your life constructively and stop consuming pointless political content (because politics and democracy is all fake, pointless, and ever more clownish). I am guilty of this myself and working to improve. Once you realize this there is a great weight off your shoulders and you can live your life more fruitfully, in which case not hopeless at all.
Left holiness spiral will kill everyone, including each other, or be violently ended within our lifetime. Typically they are ended by less insane left dictator.
Under him, the faith of leftism dies, leaving the regime hollowed out. At which point many things become possible.
What I hoping was that the holiness spiral would be violently halted by a right wing military dictator. This is rapidly becoming less and less likely.
What we currently have is the third Obama term – Obama normality. Except that Obama normality rapidly became lefter and lefter and more and more militarily aggressive.
Obama will find himself outflanked on the left in ways he is not willing to accommodate – because however willing he is to accommodate, those outflanking him will not want to be accommodated.
I expected this process to reach explosion very quickly. It has not. But it is still burning away. The Holiness spiral is just going to keep on going lefter until it is checked by drastic measures. It always does.
And if there is no place a right wing dictator might emerge, then no place a left wing dictator might emerge.
November 2022 normal looks like a straight continuation of November 2020 normal, and you, Bill, therefore project this normal to rest of our lives.
Normal Normal has been changing might fast and faster and faster all our lives. In past periods where this happened, it never stopped quietly, it stopped explosively.
Everyone is going to be violently murdered? Sounds schizo, insane, and unfalsifiable. Might as well just say an astroid is going to crash and kill everyone so living a productive life is meaningless.
Everyone will be violently murdered within a few years unless the holiness spiral is stopped by violence.
We have had many, many, many holiness spirals, though this is the first anglosphere holiness spiral, first holiness spiral among those whose speech derives from that of the angles and saxons, and whose religion derives from that of Alfred the Great. A Holiness spiral usually is stopped by violence. Typically by a Stalin. When it is not stopped, kills everyone in a quite short time.
We have been around this merry-go-round many times. Leftism always gets left faster and faster, until it throws a wheel dramatically, or until everyone tortures everyone else to death for insufficient leftism.
You can see leftism getting lefter and lefter faster and faster. Therefore, infinite leftism in finite time.
Leftism leads to pressure to be lefter. More pressure more leftism, more leftism, more pressure. Positive feedback loop. Boom!
Has to be stopped, or else everyone dies. It usually is stopped when this becomes obvious to someone with high military rank.
Is it really the first? What about the Salem witch trials?
Or the issues that Cromwell ameliorated but maybe we both answered our own questions, eh? The Slut of Salem were witches, or maybe just bitches, but near as makes no difference, yeah? Either way, it was stopped short from spreading, and Cromwell locked his shit down hard. So maybe Jim means one not restrained or halted…
Not the first, I mispoke, but a revival and continuation of the first.
Had not paid much attention to the Salem witch trials, perhaps because it is counter evidence against my thesis.
A whole lot of people developed the magical ability to magically detect witches by supernatural means (spectral evidence) And anyone who doubted this magical capability was apt to be detected as a witch. Positive feedback spiral.
And then, as ever increasing witch detections ensued, suddenly being detected as a witch just suddenly stopped being lethal.
This is reminiscent of other silent, non violent, reversals. First wave feminism and transexualization just quietly vanishing in the west 1933 after the election of Hitler, jab mandates partially vanishing after Putin invaded Ukraine, and completely vanishing when Ukrainian territories were formerly incorporated into Russia.
In these cases, central authority just ended the positive feedback loop silently with no drama. (And no admission that anything had gone horribly wrong)
> Had not paid much attention to the Salem witch trials, perhaps because it is counter evidence against my thesis.
Can you clarify how it is contrary to your thesis? I don’t see how it is. I think we can all agree that Arthur Miller was a deluded sodomite, but The Crucible seems like one of those stories that has the truth of the matter dressed up in lies and propaganda.
Here’s a rare longform from Razorfist:
https://youtu.be/ZOtinTlx7yo
This is required viewing. Excellent video and eye opening for those that need to be disabused of Cathedral notions about communism in the USA. He talks in detail about how the common perception of HUAC, McCarthy, and the whole narrative of that era is completely skewed.
I derailed my own comment lmao.
Accepting the common retelling of the Salem Witch trials, it seems to support your thesis, or at least our shared analysis, of how Holiness Spirals work, and how they can be stopped: a bunch of sluts start slutting it up with crazy ideas introduced by ill intended outsiders (Tituba and her crafts of witch); after being found out, the guilty deploy purity spiraling to get out of the crosshairs; unrestrained women and bluepill men make the problem worse; things escalate until a man shows up and uses authoritarian measures to halt the spiral.
The witch trials were an odd one for me untill I was reading an unrelated book that mentioned how the Mather family was involved in visiting Salem and other Harvard protestant priests initially supported the witch trials.(so I dug into it) I think the big thing that obfuscates what happened is the myth that Salem was isolated from the wider protestant church. It was not. The church leaders were in contact from the beginning and Salem was more than just rich land owners using B’s trials to take land. I think now, that Salem was a combination of the meowing women problem and extremely rapid holiness spiral. The fact that the protestant leaders were initially in contact with the Salem elite and also wrote glowing agitprop of the trials from the outset for the whole protestant nation (which I have read) shows a larger conspiracy to turn the whole nation Into a Salem hell. What stopped it I think was when the shit didn’t stop and normies outside Salem decided that what was going on sure wasn’t holy and the protestant zealots backpedalled as fast as they could and covered up there involvement especially by using the later new england literary movement who’s writers were very much in bed with the protestant priesthood. Tldr Salem history is B’s the protestant church had it’s greedy hands all over it and it only stopped when the flock realized whatever was going on wasn’t fairy tail witchcraft and the protty elite stabbed the Salem branch in the back to make themselves the good guy saviours (by sending judges to clean Salem out)
Blacklisted By History: The Untold Story of Senator Joe McCarthy and His Fight Against America’s Enemies, by M. Stanton Evans, is an excellent Rectification of Names on the McCarthy era. Tldr; Commies inside, outside, up, down, and all around fedgov before and of course after.
Is there some line that you imagine the left will not cross?
This chap is starting to sound like whitey or any of the other single name shill posters. Notice how he appears by going after TC, then walks it back a bit and seems to contribute to discussions, now he is edging closer to the “omg schizo poster!” refrain that is very common amongst right wing shills. But he seems to have his head screwed on straight in terms of GOP bullshit. Curioser and curioser…
He may well just be new and have a chip on his shoulder from time in the meme war trenches.
Yes, “omg schizo” sounds very like a shill.
On the other hand Bill has been cheerfully committing thought crimes right left and sideways on the election, which does not sound much like a shill.
So, Bill, how about your thoughts on the woman question, Soros prosecutors, Maidan massacre, technological decline, and the crimes of Mueller?
These are red hot topics that swiftly sort out the glowies.
And, if Christian, we can easily sort out the McChristians and Churchians from the actual Christians, Obviously those hiring shills would never hire an actual Christian. Do you claim to be Christian, Bill. Where are you coming from?
Kindly address some issues where the glowies stand out sharply.
Reasonable men may disagree that the holiness spiral necessarily goes to infinity. Did not go to infinity in Salem. The jab has not gone to infinity. But there are lots of topics on which reasonable men cannot possibly disagree, but glowies will stubbornly disagree.
“Everyone is going to be violently murdered? Sounds schizo, insane, and unfalsifiable. Might as well just say an astroid is going to crash and kill everyone so living a productive life is meaningless.”
This happens over and over again in history as would be obvious to you if you lived in
Russia
Ukraine
Belarus
China
Germany
Cambodia
and many other countries.
The US has done well for a time. You’ll notice things aren’t quite normal today though.
Bill: “Everyone is going to be violently murdered? Sounds schizo, insane, and unfalsifiable.”
Ever hear of the twentieth century?
(Or maybe you’re being ultra-literalist about the word “everyone,” in which case try to be less spergy about rhetoric.)
I will say I don’t think the Cathedral demon worshippers or no has the guts to murder everyone directly Pol Pot/3rd Reich in Poland style (not without persuading you to take some deadly shot or something anyway)… they’ll just “blunder” into a nuke war or do economic policies that guarantee mass starvation.
Historically, at the top they do prefer cowardly methods like setting policies that make everyone starve. But many of them are the opposite of fearful, in fact they lack any ability to judge risks. E.g. the point I keep harping on about the people who attacked Rittenhouse even though he was visibly holding a rifle.
What worries me is that the left can learn certain lessons from the 20th century, just as we can. Thus they are more likely to do the kind of slow-simmer genocidal stuff you mention than something that would make the frog leap out of the pot.
I hope it will get harder for them to implement this over the long haul, due to the holiness spiral, which doesn’t lend itself to a slow approach forever, and the factionalism, which will screw up any unified plan. One may hope.
Consider too how many people were gleeful in their prosecution of coronatarian foot soldiery, informing on neighbors, harassing the unmasked in public, injecting unconscious, injured, or unaware people in hospitals, and the like. There was also the anti-MAGA violence from 2016 to 2019. I think it’s folly to think that Americans are exceptional in terms of debased activities. Once a thing has been deemed “sanctioned,” there is no end to the line of people willing to do evil.
agree with this. I’ve been reading a lot lately about the highland clearances and it’s clear that anglo-world is capable of stuff like this – the upcoming climate policies may resemble something like it – but just up and murdering everyone? I still just don’t see it, in the anglosphere.
as for Salem, I know little about it, except to point out that witches are actually really (cough Gisele bundchen) and may in some cases deserve what they get. I don’t see it as the xame.
Re: The Highland Clearances
Wasn’t there centuries of hatred between the Lowlanders and Highlanders in Scotland and often between the Jacobite Highland clans (which were still mostly Protestant btw) and non Jacobite ones. Whatever atrocities were done centuries of hatred certainly made easier.
“as for Salem, I know little about it, except to point out that witches are actually really (cough Gisele bundchen) and may in some cases deserve what they get. I don’t see it as the xame.”
Bah Gisele is not a real witch, Maria Abramovich is a real witch…
nothing is going to change until the money collapses. then it’s go time
“I would expect that type of normalcy bias to last until 2100 or so with the blatantly fake elections and Republicans continuing to vote harder until finally a Caesar does something about it. Won’t be in our lifetimes unless someone here is like 10 or something.”
Destruction of the family is killing humanity on a shorter timescale than this. Not 100 years of “normalcy”. Maybe another 10-20 years if very smart people are controlling the regime.
I am stealing from my betters here, specifically Aidan M.:
America is not Rome; America is Carthage. I think it is a significant weakness/blind spot we have, both here and in the dissident right at large, to think of ourselves as inheritors of the Greco-Roman legacy. Maybe once upon a time, but when you look closer at the Founding Fathers (proto-ANTIFA applecart bandits), the Supreme Court (the Warren Court was the final act of a farce that started in the early 1800s with Marbury v. Madison; the SCOTUS was always fake and gay), and military mis-History (US military has always been risk averse and casualty intolerant crybabies, with the sole exception of the First War of Northern Aggression), I think it becomes quite clear that this country is about as fake and gay as it gets.
We have a long history to lean on, but it is reverse projection, rather we treat our European heritage as a buffet and we pick and choose whatever we want. We do have many stories of heroism, and amazing accomplishments & advancements, but when you drill down, the heroes are always the very few amongst a mediocre many and the advancements were made by lone wolves in a see of obstinate and incompetent cattle.
By what measure and right should we expect a Caesar? Isn’t it more historically accurate to expect a Hannibal, some brilliant tactician who leaves the homeland to carry out some amazing but ultimately futile military campaign before coming home to a land soon to be salted by a vengeful enemy tired of our wanton destruction and horrified by our customs of blood sacrifice?
Not trying to blackpill unnecessarily. There’s a great thread down lower wherein Bill (who doesn’t seem to be a faggot shill and, as it often will, my stupid poem now seems quite shrill) engages with Red, Jim, and others talking about election shenanigans from Roman history compared to current era. Aidan put it better than I ever could, go look it up if you’ve not read it before.
From the stand point of world powers, we are Rome. Carthage was never a world power in the way Rome was. They fought and Rome won, becoming the de facto world power of the known western world. The US has fought all contenders and won in the same way.
Carthage was the “world power” in the Mediterranean Basin during Rome’s rise, a thalassocracy with a history spanning back to their Phoenician forbearers. 3 wars, one of them a “world war” (if we count the Med Basin as ‘the world’) were required to put Carthage down, and that process in many ways tailored the identity of expansionistic Rome.
https://archive.ph/APlqG
That was the first webpage I clicked on, so it may be a shitty source. Your best buddy Cominator can tell us if it is a worthwhile account of the Rome/Carthage struggle.
The USA/Carthage parallel is also spiritual in nature, though I do think the material comparison is pretty sound.
From shittipedia:
“Various Greek and Roman sources describe and criticize the Carthaginians as engaging in the practice of sacrificing children by burning.[12] Classical writers describing some version of child sacrifice to “Cronos” (Baal Hammon) include the Greek historians Diodorus Siculus and Cleitarchus, as well as the Christian apologists Tertullian and Orosius.[72][73] These descriptions were compared to those found in the Hebrew Bible describing the sacrifice of children by burning to Baal and Moloch at a place called Tophet.[72] The ancient descriptions were seemingly confirmed by the discovering of the so-called “Tophet of Salammbô” in Carthage in 1921, which contained the urns of cremated children.[74] However, modern historians and archaeologists debate the reality and extent of this practice.[75][76] Some scholars propose that all remains at the tophet were sacrificed, whereas others propose that only some were.[77]”
Source: https://archive.ph/RYPwe
The fact that “modern scholars” are attempting to white wash it almost makes it certainly true IMO, but I am tinfoilpilled. Working from that assumption as if it were true, the US is very into child sacrifice via abortion (one of our most sacred institutions) and we have begun to canonize living child sacrifices via trannyism.
I want to be a Roman inheritor. I want to believe we are one or three elites away from a Restoration. My own lying eyes tell me we are Gomorrah on the Mediterranean. The real question is whether Russia or China is Rome, and whether the application of salt will be airburst or ground level detonation.
>America is Carthage
If we’re so lucky. It could be we are ancient Israel.
Read more here: https://archive.ph/c2LzD
Stopped reading at this point:
“In his comment on the controversy, Derek Rishmawy quotes Alan Jacobs making a forceful case that it’s always Negative World for Christians — that, for example, taking a public, faithfully Christian stance against racism in the segregated South in the 1950s would have drawn you far more negative attention (to understate things) than just about anything you might say as a Christian today. Was that really Positive World? Jacobs’s point is that it will always be costly to follow Jesus faithfully; time and place only differ in where the lines are drawn.”
This isn’t Christianity, but instead churchianity. Typical conservatism pining for yesteryear’s liberalism.
Same here. The moment “christians” invoke doctuh kang, civil rights, or hoe sufferage, I’m out.
> Typical conservatism pining for yesteryear’s liberalism.
@Hesoid @KD Try reading with that stuff cut away. I’ve even edited out the tedious stuff for both of you. Where I started quoting was where an entirely different article emerged and both of you stopped reading before that. It also should have been it’s own article, but Rod Dreher isn’t perfect.
Israel died because because of legalism.
Baal is a reach given America’s willingness to sacrifice wealth and sex as offerings to demons.
The other two are demons progs worship; Moloch has been referenced quite a bit. Ishtar hasn’t, but the causality makes sense- free love tanks t levels leading to the tearing down of sexual norms.
Agree with S. Legalism precedes the investing of demons.
Israel has never been a great power, I don’t really buy the few stories of dominance. I think that’s a lot of hyperbole mixed into history at the behest of phylo-semmitic protestants who have always been kikesuckers. Anglin asserts that Pseudo-jews (khazar pretenders that claim to be Ashkenazi jews) are demon worshippers trying to destroy all human life, targeting whites primarily because we are literally the defenders of civilization by cultural proclivity. I do not really buy this latest fad here of believing the jews are being set up as fall guys for the Cathedral. Jewish elites are the Cathedral elites. Behind every single terrible concept, organization, company, policy, and activity, you will find jews of influence and importance.
History shows quite clearly that the evil of the jewish people love legalism and worship daemons. What does Dreher have to say about jews?
America does not worship money. America worships Equality, Enlightenment and Democracy. Without Baal, they say, we would descend into the “dark ages†with poverty and misery inescapable.
Feminism is the direct descendant of Ishtar (Astarte). Western girls education is temple prostitution. When parents send their girls to school, they send them expecting them to get deflowered and banged by many males, hence the mandatory sex ed classes.
Moloch is but not limited to abortion. Mandatory Covid vaccination and increasingly climate cultism could also be considered Moloch-worship.
Considering this ritual is disturbingly similar to what is seen in the divorce courts, this corroborates the idea that Ishtar is feminism.
Baal is Equality, Ishtar is Feminism, Moloch is abortion/vax/climate etc.
The month of Tammuz thing is quite interesting if actually true, since it indicates (oc-)cultic action. Can anyone here verify?
@Kunning-Kruger
The Book of Kings and Chronicles are written to be accurate history and therefore also not only is about men but God. The dominance of Israel and territorial extent during Solomon’s time isn’t Hyperbole.
If it isn’t accurate history then neither is God’s involvement in Human history. Because God is shown to intervene in the power plays of the Kingdom of Israel.
Very “Game of Throne’s” like.
Its an unholy counterpart to the trinity…
A lot of the left wing spin put on Christianity is false, but it’s hard to argue the Gospels don’t promote racial integration.
lolwut
OK, argue that they do. KJV only please.
@Bill
The US government was modeled off the Roman republic, but our actual behavior is more like Athens and Carthage. We’re a sea power with a sizable portion of the country wants to be a land power. If we get a second chance at empire like the Romans did, we might end up being a land power.
Sea empires build quickly, but are just as quickly destroyed. While land empires take centuries to build and a long time to destroy.
You’re an idiot. The US rules the world. It’s not multipolar.
This is a pretty naive statement. Portions of the world are ruled by the US. Other portions pay tribute, swear fealty, or trade resources for peace. and substantial portions are outside of US control.
But there’s an even deeper issue with this position: while the US flag may fly over many buildings, ships, and lands, it has no welcome place amongst the ruling elite. So the specter of some sort of America appears to be a great world power, while those that manage the US hate or are indifferent to it, and those that love it are mocked, suppressed, or punished.
It’s not a trivial observation, nor is it without historical precedent. Look what happened to other empires when their elites lost the plot of ethno/national/cultural primacy.
Turkish empire is a good parallel. The Turks, not the provinces, revolted against the Turkish empire. This is why our rulers are so nervous about the US Military. When the Turk hating Turkish empire found itself dependent upon the Turkish military, things did not go too well.
The US military may be making the marines wear makeup and high heels, but they are the guys protecting Musk and telling our rulers to cool it on the Ukraine.
Bill, with all due your a fucking moron. Go read the history of the Delian League and then get back to me. Athens ruled through soft power but eventually the velvet glove was remove from the Iron first when they got into a knock down fight with Sparta. Reads just like what’s happening with NATO today.
Like I said, we’re more like Carthage and Athens, with the fly over states really wanting to be like Rome.
We are the power Carthage would have become had it defeated Rome. (And Carthage was world power, 5% of worlds population were combatants in first Punic war) Germany was Rome. Patton really was Hannibal in every meaningful sense. This time around Carthage won. Hannibal could have been a Caesar for Carthage, but Patton was assassinated before he got the chance.
“We are the power Carthage would have become had it defeated Rome.”
Deep and underappreciated insight.
Going to put your blog back up some time?
https://blog.reaction.la/science/gain-of-function-research/#comment-2810543
Despite what they wish would pass for the count not being final yet, I’m satisfied that the Dems got the Senate and the Reps the House, hence as per the terms, my bet with Jim ends inconclusively. Should the House flip over the next few days, I’ll be back.
Otherwise, and despite this being a technical draw, I freely admit that the result is very nearly a victory for Jim’s model, which seems to be off by a cycle or two, and that the HLvM model stands today much diminished.
*Mises thumbs up*
Made me glad to see your handle. Wish you’d stay a while. Hope you’re ok, bro.
Thanks KD, all good on my end. Congrats on your family’s recent/upcoming additions, a bit of a challenge I’d imagine but we can sleep when we’re dead.
Good to see you around.
I expect the counting to continue until it delivers the “””correct””” result.
We shall see.
The Dems proved they could steal the house if they want to. They stole every house MAGA race, every toss up race, but they wanted to leave a fig leave on the flopping dong of rigged elections by letting the GOP have the house but by numbers that are so tight that the GOP can’t really do anything. Normalcy faction victory.
I predicted a Dem senate and R house, though there is more fraud in the house races than I thought possible. Should have put money down, but I didn’t have any money when Jim was taking bets.
This is interesting. Patriot Front has some pretty skillful video editing. I know it slipped under the radar (I missed it when it came out) but seasoned International Relations observers all quietly agree that Islamic State was backed in part by CIA assets, and one of the tells was their professional video editing.
https://t.me/CIG_telegram/24713
Heh, called it. These glow-in-the-dark faggots are aiming to be the American Azov.
Yep, they GAE Nazis.
These guys all seem to glow.
https://t.me/sons_of_columbia
I get the appeal, I just don’t buy it. Seems like a fed op, like all the others. This is a real problem for us; 0 trust, 0 faith, and both for very good reasons.
Watching the once and… future?..god emperor address the volk. Some of his stuff is a bit rote, other stuff has some zazz to it. Addressing the midterms, he didn’t blame anyone, but stated that “some Americans” just haven’t suffered enough yet, but that by 2024 they very well might. This is pretty sober analysis.
…but it is still a form of cope. It is accurate, but it is tangential to the actual issue, that being the undeniable fact that voting is over. But if he is announcing that he is running for an elected position (and I have to assume that will happen, though as I write this he’s not stated it explicitly), it would be a tactical blunder to decry voting then say your going to seek votes, right?
For our corner of analysis, small but [he just announced… I am actually pumped; let’s see what DeSantis does] sophisticated, we aren’t really going to be happy until an elite with power, influence, and status speaks the unvarnished truth and calls out the militia. What would happen if he had done that tonight? Nothing good, unless Everything good happened, and almost all at once. So even if he is completely redpilled, even if he has learned from 2020 and 2021, he has to build a massive coalition that can be distilled into an army. That’s a coalition of tens of millions, as it would be something like 1% that wouldn’t melt away once the guns came out from under the table.
He didn’t bring up the vaxx, that’s a sign of learning (a very, very small sign, granted). His rhetoric is staid, but there will be time to ramp that up. Red may be right that they are inches away from coming after him with bracelets, but if they do it now, they are imprisoning a candidate, which would not resonate positively with anyone but the urban cucks.
He literally just deployed some “vote harder” cope: he said he received more votes than any president in 2020, and we’ll just have to get more. Mixed message, that. You could argue it’s coded just as easily as you could argue it proves he is an unreformed boomer.
…ok, he just said they are going to go for the death penalty for any convicted drug dealer. He has said lots of stuff, but that jumped out at me. He is saying “It works for China.” Hella based.
Says he will demand Voter ID, same day voting, only paper ballots. As we know here, he needs an army to enforce that.
He still has the gift of gab, he’s still inspiring to listen to, to watch him work a room. But these are the feel good things, the things that appeal to the last shreds of American inside me. He hits boomercon talking points, but he layers in coded language that could, possibly, hint that OH FUCK HE JUST SAAID WE’RE GOING TO MARS TRRRRRRRRUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP TTTTTTTTRRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIINNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN
choo choo mother fuckers.
he’s wrapping up, using the classic series of “we will make America [x] again.”
I don’t know, we’ll see. I stand by my earlier comments: his campaign is a net win for Us. The election itself is almost irrelevant. Didn’t intend to liveblog the speech. Sorry for the wall of text.
Julius Caesar imposed one honest election once, but he had the means to do so.
Trump lacks the means. Could he acquire the means? The NSDAP did a pretty good job of unrigging elections. But the situation does not look favorable.
I honestly don’t understand his thinking. He knows they stole the election in 2020, he knows they stole the election in 2022. What is his game plan?
The only “hope” is that he gets 100 million or so votes, and the Dems are forced to manufacture 105 million. Thus the fraud becomes so absurdly obvious that even the cucks are forced to notice.
Or they just make Rep votes disappear.
I think that’s what happened in Arizona. They ran all the ballots over to a printing company officially for signature scanning that probably reprinted the GOP votes and filled them out again for Democrats. That’s the sort of fraud Dems did in Florida for years with mail in ballots. It’s a slow process, but it gets it done.
Fraud is already absurdly obvious. Cucks fail to notice when their wife bangs Jeremy Meeks in front of them.
You have a point, but maybe there is a breaking point somewhere. Cracks are starting to appear in the vaccine consensus, so the conditioning does have limits.
Everyone knows the jab is dangerous and ineffectual. No one dares say it. If the consensus has not broken now, why will it break in future?
Every doctor knows he is murdering people. Every doctor sees people suffering the consequences, and refuses to diagnose his patient’s ailments. The entire state and quasi state apparatus, the entire medical profession, is complicit in enormous crimes, which they must continue, for to halt the terrible crimes that they are committing would be an admission of guilt.
Barring some external mitigating event (alien invasion, comet impact, real pandemic), the consensus is changing visibly. The vaxx oponents have not been silenced, and every day new articles/headlines appear showing that the Common Perception is getting ever closer to saying The Vaxx is Killing People.
When they rolled out the jab, the ambulances were screaming. The emergency room filled up with strangely young heart attack victims.
Still full of strangely young heart attack victims.
It was immediately obvious to everyone that yet another enormous crime of terrible evil and cruelty was under way. Has it become even more obvious and less deniable.
The difference between obvious and even more obvious is unlikely to make a difference.
What did make a difference is Putin’s invasion of the Ukraine, and his incorporation of Russian speaking Ukraine regions into Russia.
This looks to me like the rational fear of losing a war as a result of killing everyone.
It only makes sense if they intended from the beginning to kill a large proportion of the population.
That Putin could cure Covid, and Igor Chudov could not, should tell you that those rolling out the jab knew all this stuff before he did.
They’ve stopped clamping down on the vax. On reddit you can say the vax is killing people, but you mention fraud and you get an instant shadow ban. 6 months ago the reverse was true. Twitter was the same way.
Yet another data point in my No Single Center thesis. War Faction is distinct from Coronatarian Faction is distinct from Gaia Worship Faction is distinct from Anti-White Faction. There’s definitely overlap, but there’s also friction and competition.
If we apply the Banditry Thesis/Model (governments are stationary bandits that exclude all other banditry as much as able), we have a bunch of Mobile Bandits (the factions) that have emerged from a collapsing Stationary Bandit (the Cathedral). Over time, the distances between the factions will increase, not decrease, unless a Warlord arises and brings the various factions back into line.
A further layer of complexity is the metastisized “free thought” of the independent press, the minor megaphone (JB is a node in that network). The Independent Press has said, and continues to say, that Corona was fake, the vaxx is gay, and the consensus is false. When a power faction, like the War Faction maybe, needs to oppose the Coronatarian Faction, or any other faction, they can lend credibility to, or choose to not suppress, some node in the Independent Press. Short term gain, long term detriment. This comports with our observation and the embiggening of midwit moron manager leadership.
Each faction serves itself, and that service is animated by its current managerial elite. The more feminine, the more foreign, the more minoritarian, the more they will fail to coordinate, fail to make long term plans, intermediate term operations, and short term decisions that generate institutional benefit.
St. John’s body of analysis explains these dynamics very succinctly.
It is entirely possible that the worshipers of the Awesome and Mighty Corona demon will be thrown overboard, and will face justice for their gigantic and hideous crimes.
But if so, it will not be truth and justice prevailing, but the revolution devouring its children.
>Yet another data point in my No Single Center thesis.
Someone ordered social media to ban talk of Vaxes killing people then unbanned it recently. Whoever that group or man is, they seem to have total control over social media.
>>>>>>It is entirely possible that the worshipers of the Awesome and Mighty Corona demon will be thrown overboard, and will face justice for their gigantic and hideous crimes. But if so, it will not be truth and justice prevailing, but the revolution devouring its children.
Regardless I have to think I’ll find it gratifying, and would love to have a part in doling our that justice, contributing any way I can.
If the big fish want to feed us the little fish. Maybe that’s a good start. Im just a peasant, I’ll settle for the faggot with the Ukraine flag and the ever present facemask in my neighborhood.
Actually, in my country at least, everyone knows that the jab is ineffectual and the consensus about that has been quietly abandoned. Since almost everyone jabbed got his corona anyway, including those politicians who pressed for jab most vehemently, it is simply impossible not to see the ineffectiveness. It was stuff of public mocking.
Consensus is still not broken about jabs supposedly being harmless, but because The Ausweis and muzzles are not needed since Dr. Putin decided to give us cure for covid, nobody asks too much, everyone being happy about return to normal.
The public secret, however, is that many death with corona were caused by no one asking anything those medical professionals who took the jab and got The Ausweiss AKA The License to Kill. In some moment they actually began to test all medical personnel, and quietly stopped pressing unjabbed to take it. All medics still are still tested once a week.
Body count of people I knew who died with covid is still 2 (two), as in height of Mindless Hysteria. Both old folks with many comorbidities including heart problems, so not of covid.
The thing is, I do not know anyone who actually died of jab, but I do know of a woman in early twenties with serious and “mysterious” case of myocarditis, and a man in early thirties and of good health receiving emergency heart surgery and stent implant “all of a sudden”, wrestling him from the brink of death.
Rumors say about unusual rise of young people in ER, but I can not personally either confirm it or deny it. It is weird, however, how everybody changes subject when such question is asked.
Many of folks here who did get the jab were given astra zeneca or j&j, overall rate of vaccination remained relatively low despite government’s best efforts, and very few took any “booster”. I suppose all those adenoviral vaxxes are less detrimental to health than mRNA genetic reprogrammators.
So, it is relatively easy to imagine that small number of deaths and serious conditions linked to vaxxes are “passing under the radar”. Especially when not trumpeted all over regime media. I guess it will stay that way here in the GAE province unless something different happens in the GAE heart, pun intended.
From official numbers the Moderna jab is twice as likely to induce Myocarditis than the Pfizer jab within 2 weeks of injection. Moderna was close to 3x the spike proteins of the Pfizer jab. J&J and astra zeneca generally produces a lot fewer spike proteins and there’s no official cases of it causing Myocarditis, but can both cause Myocarditis based on reported cases from outside sources but it’s likely the numbers are very low compared to the mRNA jabs. Also how many spike proteins you get from adenoviral vaxxes is dependent on how effective your immune system is at identifying and attacking. If you have a weak immune system(drinking problem will do it) then you’re going to get hammered a lot harder.
All the vaccines cause heart damage. It’s the long term immune damage from the J&J and astra zeneca as well possible wide area fibrous clots that we don’t have any data about because no one is studying it. The J&J people may just take longer to start dropping dead or the it’s the other parts of the mRNA vaxes that are doing a lot of the damage.
Immune system damage seems highly dependent on how many jabs people subjected themselves too. Most people who took J&J and Astra Zeneca did not get boosters. My father who took the single J&J isn’t getting any more sick than normal. Currently my entire extended family is sick with some bug and he’s fine. So I would say the long term odds on J&J not fucking up the immune system is good.
data set of one. Likely covid Exposure November 2020, previous to that did not take care to isolate, took several trips. No big symptoms or impact.
Got JnJ March 2021, reasoning: least impactful way to comply, not fully on board with vaxx==evil at that point. No boosters and no second shot of any sort. Partner did same and around same time frame.
December 2021 – after a trip, exposure to Delta, had a run down weekend, but no ill effects, partner got Delta worse that I did, 3-4 days of feeling down.
Jan 2021 – sheltered with two Omicron Positive 20 somethings, no ill effects. And no ill effects since then of any sort.
Maybe got lucky with JnJ (i.e. did not get a hot lot) or adenovirus peters out after awhile.
Human immune system is a miracle of God/ Nature/ whatever you call it. It seems to me (and I’m certainly praying for that, although I’ve never been praying man before) that any vaxx damage is temporary if not permanently reapplied with “boosting”
There’s however one more thing I’ve noticed, and even official data in Croatia supports it, and they are trying to sweep it under the carpet, that more jabbing/ boosting/ whatever means more covid – twice, even three times among quite a few people I personally know.
Those are usually not particularly heavy cases, but also not exactly light – like some “medium” cases of good ole flu. However, I’ve never heard of getting a flu twice in a year, and it worries me somewhat what will be long-term consequences of that for all those people.
Since boosting is relatively rare in Croatia, such cases of more frequent covid infections among boosted folks are especially visible. It might be bias on my side, but it probably isn’t.
There is plenty of statistical evidence that the jabbed are more likely to get covid, and considerably more likely to spread it, and there always was plenty of evidence for this. Before the vaccine was rolled out, the initial test results, if they had not been very creatively interpreted, indicated that the jab would worsen the spread.
There was never any scientific evidence for the jab as a measure to prevent people from infecting other people. The claim was that it reduced the severity of the disease.
The insistence on regular boosters could be taken as an implication that the serpent worshipers suspect the effects could peter out if given time.
We can only pray that is the case.
It is most likely Boomer idealism, but what other option does he have? Whether he is running a Vote Harder operation, or he is quietly gathering banners, I assert they would be indistinguishable at this stage. Prediction is dangerous, but I think we may be able to get an idea of which operation he is running through coded rhetoric. I do not share Anglin’s, or many other conservative voices, view that this was a Weak Start. He is starting out within the Overton Window but very close to the border line. Where he goes will be indicative. If he just hangs out on the border and stays inside, we should be confident that he has not learned from 2020. If he starts to send out coded messages along the lines of “we will make sure the election is ‘fair and correct’ by any means necessary” we are moving in the right direction. Announcing that he will be seeking the Death Penalty for convicted drug dealers is a good first step, and tying it to their “proved guilt” is a good tactic.
I completely admit I am being forcefully optimistic. I don’t have some brilliant insight or secret information. But if we here can believe that DeSantis is actually based and redpilled despite being so thoroughly in bed with the RNC portion of the uniparty, why can we not believe Trump has a plan for dealing with thoroughly corrupted electoral processes? He cannot come out and announce a coup or say he plans to take office by force, even or especially if that is his goal.
He has a ton of options, the best one would be to start reading Jim’s blog, or listen to advisers who read Jim’s blog. Though I doubt he’d listen.
It’s a funny thing of life where a great man in the wrong place will still end up an idiot.
Trumps poor reaction to 2020 fraud (going after the bad targets of Dominion etc rather than breaking Shaniqua’s knees for a confession) indicates he is not wise enough to tackle it properly.
I am hopeful that his campaign deranges the unhinged left enough that they try something more drastic, at which point some liberal, probably in the intelligence community or close to the military, decides he does not want his head chopped off and becomes Caesar.
Interesting set of tweets by Charlie Kirk, who although is not a lazy dumb Con Inc shill, he’s not exactly a right-wing reactionary anon by any stretch. He seems to be a good representative of the organized Trump wing of the GOP.
https://twitter.com/charliekirk11/status/1592557149506633729
https://twitter.com/charliekirk11/status/1592949675740794881
He’s not really calling for the stupid GOP/Fox News shill idea of just vote harder but proposing the creation of a mass ballot harvesting operation for Republicans. What are people’s thoughts on this? Is this progress?
Seems to me that even if Republicans ballot harvest with their own mules in all the red counties, the blue cities will just stall their counts and print up infinite ballots to defeat it.
Sounds like a stall tactic. Another “we’ll get em next time boys”. I assume ballot harvesting by Republicans would be prosecuted as fraud. And I also assume the idiots around me would agree that “those fascists cannot be allowed to turn our democracy into a farce”. Nothing like the left simply helping disabled old black ladies drop their ballots off.
If Trump or DeSantis becomes president in the future, without violence, I’ll assume they’re safely under control.
Conservatives, always behind the times. This might have worked in 2020. It won’t work in 2024.
There’s a shitload of bribe money being paid for the fraud and the GOP is unlikely to be able to match it because it’s the Federal government funding it. This election there was mass fraud in Red areas because the Dems paid bribes to the vote counters and ensured that all election observers where their paid men. Niggers where bragging on facebook about being Democrats but signing to be GOP poll watchers, but no way a nigger watches the polls without someone paying him for it.
The only way to match the Dems is with violent men standing in the counting offices ensuring the votes are counted correctly.
The right always fails when it attempts to use the left’s methods. There’s no level to the playing field. Turning Cuck USA, like every ostensible conservative organization permitted to exist, is a part of the problem. In fact, official conservatism is the only real problem, as they are the only barrier between the operationalization of the friend/enemy distinction.
Trump is luckiest man alive. If he had won in 2020, Vaccine deaths and adverse events would have been reported and hyped. Trump would have been blamed for the deaths of millions. Instead he baited his enemies into supporting the vaxx and therefore the holocaust is not reported.
So yeah, lucky. lucky counts for a lot.
I don’t have any idea what Trump’s doing. He is behaving as if all future elections won’t be rigged. Maybe he’s decide to try and buy elections like the Dems do? That won’t work without armed men on your side.
Part of me thinks they have forced his hand with the FBI investigation. He probably realizes he’s more likely to be thrown in jail and never let out if he stands down, even if actually winning the election is hopeless.
I support Anglin, I have defended him before, and will defend him again. But this example of blackpill, crybaby bulshit:
https://dailystormer.in/donald-trump-bombs-calls-ye-the-n-word-in-presidential-announcement-speech/
is hilariously sad. This is precisely why politics of the moment is stupid. If you were to do a weekly punch line from Daily Stormer, just a single headline encapsulating the week in headlines, Anglin (who claims to write everything at the site) would vacillate wildly between “OMG we’re winning everything” to “OMG all is lost.” This has to be painful for him, and I wish I could reach out to him, take him out for drinks, then have Wulfgar and Aidan pull up in a van so we can waterboard his childless, bitchy ass in an abandoned factory until he promises to be less of a crybaby on his website, because that’s what friends do.
Despair is never a good thing for a man. It’s even worse when he encourages other people to despair.
I think that you are being unfair. That is not the council of despair. It recognizes that Trump is still the only real right-wing leader, and that the system is rigged. Trump is not Caesar. I.VI showed that, and unless he goes full on 2016 he is not going to rally the energy to summon the banners.
I think Trump really believed in the Republic. His faith is shattered and now he’s a shattered man because of it.
I have to wonder if he’s finally realized what’s going to happen to him and his family? He should be making plans to get his kids and whatever wealth they can take away from the US.
Anglin is the man who told me not to despair, not to let the media megaphone distract me from being a servant of God and a good man. He has been trapped by politics of the moment. It happens to all of us; some event or series of events tricks us into forgetting where we stand, like a cold snap in spring or an Indian Summer in fall.
Look, you don’t have to come along, I’ll get TC to drive the abduction van. I just thought you’d have fun.
He is watching everyone fall for media tricks over and over. Not even a good trick. Eben if desantis is the right choice, still horrible to see your supporters fall for the exact same trick as yesterday.
Maybe DeSantis is even the right choice, but undeniable the right mostly accepted media implication that everything was legit.
I empathize completely. I am still 100% behind him. But it’s not helpful to vacillate between “everything is awesome!” and “we’re not going to make it.” That’s conduct unbecoming of leadership.
I really wish Anglin would join us here. I think he’d benefit from some interaction on his level, and we’d benefit from his contributions.
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My blog, you take my shill test.
“He is watching everyone fall for media tricks over and over… the right mostly accepted media implication that everything was legit.â€
Disagree. Here’s Jim elsewhere in this thread:
“The intent… is not to persuade but to gaslight. They do not actually expect to deceive anyone with their story. They expect to deceive each person that he is a minority of one in noticing the obvious truth.â€
In other words, it’s an attack on good people’s ability to coordinate. The specific mechanism of attacking coordination is to make people think it’s pointless (if not outright dangerous) to speak up, since they’ll have no allies.
The left has always devoted immense effort and resources to propaganda. They’re insane, but they do understand the mechanisms of power because they’re so obsessed with it.
Anyone know how much BTC Anglin got.
I mean, dude can’t be hurtin in the bread dept, amirite?
’bout treefiddy
“Look: I support Trump because he is obviously the only viable leader for right-wing American politics right now. When people whine about how he hurt their feelings and they will never support him because of that, they just look like complete babies. Unless you have a name of someone better, then Trump is the leader, period. If you can’t accept that, then you’re just an emotional child.
There isn’t really anything Trump could do to change the fact that he’s the best option, because there is no one that even compares. Therefore, I will support him, regardless.”
– Anglin
“Guys, Trump 2024 is a good poster, bottom line. He is obviously a human posting human things, and of course I support that.
Trump 2024’s latest post, his most important post maybe, was so fucking terrible, so low energy, so holistically bad, that I have lost the will to persevere and will be throwing myself, my wife, my children, and at least half the goats on a bonfire I am building through tear flooded eyes.
None of this is Trump 2024’s fault, it is what it is. I always have and continue to support him as a guy that posts here.”
Bracketing something with its opposite is a technique to confuse and dismay. The reversal makes mid and lower witted guys uncomfortable and higher witted guys disengage.
Anglin is far smarter than me, he’s funnier than me, he’s more devout than me. It is not my place to reprove him. So I came here and made a complaint post. Is the consensus here that Anglin is right? I don’t think he’s right for how he is saying what he is saying. I am mostly sidestepping the content.
Andrew, if you are reading this: Let not your heart be troubled; ye who believe in God believe also in me. In my Father’s house are many mansions. If it where not so, why would I have told you?
Looks like DeSantis is starting to show his true colors:
https://t.me/CIG_telegram/24771
“The Hill: DeSantis wants statue of civil rights activist to replace Confederate figure on Capitol Hill
— “Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis (R) on Wednesday requested the architect of the U.S. Capitol replace a statue of a Confederate general with one of a civil rights leader.
The statue of Gen. Edmund Kirby Smith will be replaced with one of Mary McLeod Bethune as one of Florida’s two statues in the National Statuary Hall and elsewhere in Washington, D.C.
Bethune founded the institution that would go on to become Bethune-Cookman University, a historically black university in Daytona Beach, Fla.
“Florida is proud to commemorate the 144th anniversary of Dr. Mary McLeod Bethune’s birthday by sending our state’s formal request to place her statue in National Statuary Hall, making her the first African American to have a state-commissioned statue,†DeSantis said in a statement.””
I’m sure he’s been told if he wants to be president, he needs to suck the aids infested tranny cock. He’s on his knees with his mouth open, but he’ll never be president.
That’s from three years ago. And the Confederate statue was coming down either way. DeSantis’ only input was on the replacement.
If you don’t like him, fine, but don’t be retarded.
That’s not really any better. In fact it’s worse.
To the extent there is any merit in debating Trump vs DeSantis when the votes are rigged… the 1st one to come up with any plan besides “vote harder” is the one that should get our support.
If Trump’s plan is vote harder than there is no point in supporting him.
If DeSantis plan is vote harder also no point.
Any “real” plan is going to be hidden behind a “vote harder” plan. How do we discern which one has a real plan? What if, inshallah, both have a real plan?
Theyll be hints about a real plan if it exists…
Cryptic hints behind cryptic crypticness.
How about our side stops huffing copium and accept some Spandrellian wisdom that for the time being, no one is coming to save us.
How about guys like DeSantis and Trump first put in some work to earn our trust. We’ve turned plenty cheeks, time to say: ‘I am supposed to follow you? Nope, seems toxic and unproductive.’
We are the vanguard. I feel like folk dislike hearing that, because they feel powerless in the light of powerful social currents and would very much hope for an elite to step out of the shadows and say: ‘look you’re not alone. We were just waiting for the right time!’
Yeah no. We’re alone.
Here’s Razorfist talking about the Midterms. Lots in there.
https://youtu.be/lrPTclw9noc
I think guys like this, guys with dedicated followings across multiple platforms, are an essential asset to… Operationalizing The Distinction.
Fake elections seem ceremonial at this point, now that I think about it. Fakes that actually destroy lives, like vaccines and academic degrees, are still accepted as real even by most conservatives. But elections? There’s no actual feedback, no ground game consequences even as small as defunding NPR and PBS. Or sanctuary cities full of barbarians.
They could last for 500+ years, like in Rome.
500 years no way…
Ceremonial elections might last for a very long time.
Leftism is not going to last for very long at all. It will destroy itself swiftly. The only question is whether it will destroy us first.
American leftism has been phenomenally successful at killing *other* countries, but it perversely results in mass immigration to America which only rejuvenates the monster. Actual Americans have far more resistance to the worst excesses of leftism, and even leftism itself, but always find themselves swamped, even the fecund Puritans. Beating leftism in America is like beating all of the rest of the world’s leftists too, a true globalist army.
Housing value leftism is a genuinely successful ideology, though, as housing projects are always full of Shaniquas with half a dozen chilluns but Stacy with a 30 year mortgage has only 1.3 children and half a dozen abortions. And she likes it that way.
Our enemy is the cultural Marxist, and to a far lesser extent the economic Marxist (and they’re more of them left than anyone wants to admit), but never the strictly economic leftist social conservative, the “populist”. Think the opposite of Mitt Romney, that’s what we need.
The world sure isn’t running out of leftists, who are multiplying like flies, but it is running out of productive citizens and healthy societies (aka human and social capital) for leftists to exploit.
All leftists are parasites, and they control all Western institutions. When they have finished eating and shitting out every morsel of value they can find, they will devour each other, clearing the field for survivors to build small-scale societies that ruthlessly exclude parasites.
Some of these societies will eventually grow into vast empires, re-invent Section 8 housing and EBT cards, and thereby fall into ruin, but what can you do, chisel giant warning messages onto cliff faces?
Maybe there’s a one-or-two-sentence warning that could be nuked onto the surface of the moon. After a broad civilizational collapse that warning couldn’t be edited for a long time.
It’s hard to think of something clear and terse enough that wouldn’t be re-interpreted by the left. We can’t just warn against “leftists” because leftist propagandists will just redefine the word “leftist” to mean something else.
If there’s a widespread civilization collapse then that’s it for the Human race. All the easy to mine resources are gone and the people who come after us will live in grass hunts and use stone tipped spears to hunt game.
God promised Noah he would not destroy the human race again as much as he did with the flood, if that is any consolation. I wonder if there is a naturalistic explanation for that.
God only promised to not destroy the earth with a flood; fire from heaven is still on the table
KJV Genesis:
I don’t understand the bit about man’s heart, but the remainder seems to state that god does not want to end the human race.
This foreshadows the Christian message of grace and forgiveness. God decides to put up with human evil, while letting it be known he seriously disapproves.
As I am fond of saying, we became human through a thousand genocides. God may not have any more global catastrophes up his sleeve, but he is pretty relaxed about sinful peoples suffering indiscriminate extermination at the hands of slightly less sinful peoples. We are Carthage, Sodom, and Gomorrah. The ground around Harvard may well be salted by groundburst nukes.
Amen.
“And there went out another horse that was red: and power was given to him that sat thereon to take peace from the earth, and that they should kill one another: and there was given unto him a great sword.†–Rev 6:4
It is yet to come. But, will likely involve fire.
“I don’t understand the bit about man’s heart…”
It means the sinful nature of man starting at the Fall and inherited by we sons of Adam.
Compare with what Jesus Christ says:
But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart. (Matthew 5:28 KJV)
Imagination often precedes action.
I really don’t like revelations. Such an acid trip mess.
Similarly, come to dislike the story of Job. It just doesn’t make sense to me in the larger picture — a running theme throughout the bible is that the wicked are punished for their evil, the faithful rewarded for their good. Except with Job. With Job its the exact opposite: he is punished because he is good, arbitrarily, because God makes a bet. Which includes the death of his ten children.
Here’s my pet theory: the story of Job sits between the prosperous OT era and the fallen OT era. What if the story of Job represents the Jews misleadingly telling themselves they were acting in good faith, while they were already not?
I don’t know just a thought.
OK I think I understand. We are born with capacity for evil, but God forgives us, even though he does not like that side of humanity.
“OK I think I understand. We are born with capacity for evil, but God forgives us, even though he does not like that side of humanity.”
Our capacity for evil is a corruption of our capacity for righteousness. Being created in the image of God and gifted in differing measures, we each can return these blessings to God by doing His will or put them to wicked uses to sate our own selfish desires.
God wants us back to the pre-corrupted state and we can get there by picking up our crosses, our pains, shames, and guilts, and following His only begotten Son Jesus Christ. Just a glimpse of that Love is staggering.
Hmmm i like revealations but i hate the book of Job…
Please do expand. I’m not kidding about the acid trip — to me revelations reads like
‘and then… There’s a DRAGON. But out of its mouth crawls three RATS. But they are slain by an ANGEL.’
and so on…
Well I like Revelations also.
And yes it does read as if John of Patmos, hiding out from the persecutors in a cave in the mountains, ate far too many magic mushrooms in between licking toads.
I interpret it to prophesy that the Church will be triumphant over persecution, each such triumph prefiguring a final triumph at the end of time, that the gates of hell will not prevail, that it is prophesy, not just about the final persecution at the end of days, but about every persecution.
The Nicolaitans ate things sacrificed to idols, meaning that they participated in social and public events where acts that looked rather like act of worship to idols were required. They submitted, not to drastic and extreme persecution, but to small pressures – much as today’s cuckservative churches submit to pressures to not be offensive to transsexuals, single mums, women who divorce their husbands, women who engage in serial monogamy, Jews, gays, and transsexuals. And transexuals. And schoolteachers who are transexualizing children. Can your priest say “groomer”?
So, I regard this as a prophesy that those who defy such pressures shall in the end be victorious, as well as a prophesy about the end of time.
The Churches that are capitulating to these small pressures are vanishing. And John of Patmos then encountered rather more extreme pressures.
The modern equivalent of Nicolaitans politely evade confrontation with those that confront them, but those confronting them are pushing them to retreat from Christianity. They retreat, and the Church empties out. You see only old people, and no families. The congregation dwindles, the Church can no longer afford the magnificent and overtly Christian building built a long time ago for a vastly larger congregation.
I need to reread Job before I can consider any beef against it. There might be something going on besides the plot, so to speak. Like how the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah is prefaced by what appears to be a comedy routine between God and Abraham where the number of righteous men needed to spare the city keeps dwindling.
Revelations was written by someone licking psychedelic toads in a cave while Nero’s was persecuting Christians. It’s a retarded book and I’d love to know why it was included in the cannon. So many Christians waste an enormous amount of time worrying about while ignoring the hell building up around them. It’s the sort of book I’d lock up and only have give the elders of the church access to.
The book of Job is a moral story explaining why sometimes bad things happen to good people. I’ve never much been a fan of it, since bad things happening to good people often happen because said man didn’t have the courage to the take the risks necessary. It gives an excuse for men to be passive, hoping that their superior faith will result in God rewarding them. It’s probably fine in an age where the social order was quite good and it didn’t take a lot risks to succeed because everyone was organized around helping men make it. Today it’s a fucking disaster.
Job is the cope for the problem of evil…
Revealation is the book where evil gets destroyed, it also pretty unambigiously calls the Catholic Church a great evil and if not for Revealations I wouldn’t be able to believe the bible but some of its major predictions have come true…
Job’s admonishment can be summed as don’t complain. A rudimentary reading perhaps but read Elihu’s and God’s response to Job. Chapter 36 v5-9 is an absolute gem.
‘Your wickedness can affect only a man like yourself’.
Regarding revelations, I have to say Red’s view matches mine closely. But I’ll give it another read with Jim and Com’s points in mind.
If anything I took away the opposite message: Job endlessly complains that he does not deserve his misery. He complains to his friends, he complains to God, and in the end God says ‘OK you have a point it was unfair I’ll end your streak of misery.’
https://worldwideweasy.blogspot.com/2009/11/worlds-largest-aircraft-graveyard.html
at least refined metals will be easy to find.
Said graveyard will last 100 years tops. Oxidation is a bitch.
I think copper is the biggest problem because (a) most of it has been mined already; in a few thousand years we’ve gone from picking up pure copper nuggets off the ground to tunneling miles deep to extract 0.25% copper ore, (b) it rusts, and (c) you can’t have electricity without it.
Maybe we could make electrical wire out of more abundant metals like iron, calcium, aluminum, magnesium, or sodium, but we don’t because they all have problems, like cracking or spontaneously catching fire.
Phosphorous will be a problem even if civilization doesn’t collapse because we mine it but don’t refine it into solid objects that can be recycled; we instead crush it into powder and spread it on fields, whence it runs off into the ocean.
aluminium wire is feasible, but you need a decently high tech level to make aluminium.
It is not that most of the copper ore has been mined, or most of any material has been mined. Most of it has not been mined. It is that all of the ore that can extracted and processed by low tech methods has been mined.
Similar situation with oil. It has been a mighty long time since oil gushed out of oil wells.
Best you could do is broadcast a message that refers to a broader collection of work. The Christian way would be ‘Christ is king’ or the slightly more depressing but still hopeful message one sometimes finds in the European countryside: ‘Christ lives’.
Our version might be something like ‘blog.reaction.la’ or ‘Read Jim’s blog’. Then again we should not pat ourselves too much on the shoulder as our social technology is still young, and although preliminary results are promising, has not yet stood the test of time. Also we don’t know how it scales.
“Then again we should not pat ourselves too much on the shoulder as our social technology is still young, and although preliminary results are promising, has not yet stood the test of time.”
Not at all. Quite old, and well time-tested.
Is it? Not to drag old cows out of a ditch, but guys like Roosh and Andrew Torba espouse the old and time-tested Christianity.
Our Christianity is compatible, but has different emphases. It is more from the perspective of an engineer, or a programmer. It includes certain ‘patches’. And it incorporates a naturalistic explanation for its faith.
Christianity with Jimian Characteristics.
alf: I don’t see much difference between the essence of this community and the original Coke Classic version of western culture. The language and conceptual underpinnings are more developed, with Game, game theory, and evo psych. But it’s amazing how every time you look into some Biblical rule or story, you find it illustrates some truth of Game, game theory, and/or evo psych.
E.g. Eve wandering off by herself to be tempted by Satan in Genesis. Don’t let a woman tool you with her bullshit (Game), guard the chickens, not the foxes (evo psych), etc.
Christianity with Jimian Characteristics indeed.
Americans are not resistant to leftism.
Americans had less of communism2, marxism, and communism3, nazism, because these were non american competitors to american communism1, progressivism. The peripheries of the empire have been scheduled for annihilation since their inception into the empire, we do not get to have “conservatives”, which progressives breed to fight their wars, which the conservatives happily do if you wave the so called “constitution” in front of their drooling faces.
Leftism is entropy, political leftism is the american ideology of world domination and “emancipation”.
And the worst excesses of this ideology are of course and obviously at worst in america.
I don’t get why you want to put a bunch of Stacies in a bunch of so called “public toilets” and have them breed there. It is gross and weird. You are insane.
@Kunning Druegger Starting a new thread due to length.
>it’s hard to argue the Gospels don’t promote racial integration.
>lolwut OK, argue that they do.
skippy has a limited point about the Gospels in a backwards interpretation that has become common, but it needs context to understand why he is right (about being wrong).
The Old Testament in Numbers 12 Miriam and Aaron questioned the marriage between Moses and his wife.
Notice God has not appeared yet. He makes no comment specifically on the choice of wife. What likely got Miriam and Aaron in trouble was when they went on to questioned the legitimacy of Moses.
To which God shows up and replies:
Note God made no comment on the choice of wife. They are then punished.
God is seemingly indifferent to interracial marriage, and interracial marriage is a form of racial integration, God is likely indifferent to racial integration. That leaves room for men to decide on a personal/civilizational basis without much judgement from God one way or the other. A key exception exists though. In Deuteronomy 7 marriage with the inhabitants of Canaan is prohibited by God because:
The Canonical Gospels are in New Testament and are the narrative of the words and deeds of Jesus as composed by Matthew, Mark, Luke and John. The Gospels are only a part of the New Testament. The parable of the Good Samaritan is of interest because Jesus defines a neighbor as
regardless of Jew or Samaritan (who hated each other). Moreover Jesus says to
which is to be willing to initiate mercy. This isn’t an unconditional promotion of integration at a group level; however, it is saying to be conditionally open at an individual level regardless of ethnic/racial difference.
So far skippy is wrong. Why is he sort of right? It’s because of Paul and how the Bible gets badly reinterpreted.
or in other words a servant who spreads gospel of God.
Take Colossians 3:11 where Paul goes full universalist and says:
or Galatians 3:28 where he goes full gender neutral with:
Paul is unconditional in his message unlike God/Jesus.
Note that these are Paul’s words and not Jesus/God. It’s Pauline Epistles and not Canonical Gospels, yet the similarity in terminology of Canonical Gospels and Paul the spreader of gospel lead some to merge Epistles with Gospels. Those people then retroactively interpret the Bible with a Pauline lens. They now see it as God punishing those criticizing the interracial marriage and the parable of the Good Samaritan as promotion of unconditional integration. It’s hard to argue the Gospels don’t promote racial integration when the Bible is read backwards and different segments are conflated together…
Now it’s possible that Paul was not speaking literally. Figurative meaning is lost over time and wording gets interpreted literally. I think it’s more likely that Paul was being literal. Paul converted several years after Jesus died. He appears to have credentialed Phoebe as a diakonos/deacon. The only women in the entire Bible to have such a title. That lends credence to him really believing there is neither male nor female in faith. Very possible that Paul the apostle was just a man and was fallible. Not a scandalous position either, Judas was an original apostle and was flawed as well.
Was it just Canaan? I remember Deuteronomy having a fair bit of ‘take their lands and do Not breed with their women!’
Paul was an OG red pilled apostle so I don’t buy that for a second.
Paul faithfully spread Christ’s message by saying it was no longer the Jews who are saved by God: everyone who follows Christ will now be saved by God. Thus ‘the good news.’
That does not mean everyone follows Christ. God’s grace is only given to men of goodwill. No good will, no reciprocity beyond the first two cheeks.
It was 7 peoples residing in Canaan. Kings has an example of a king being led astray by breeding with a heathen. Similar themes can be found throughout the bible. I used Deuteronomy specifically because it was the most blunt and the most authoritative voice on the matter.
>Paul was an OG red pilled apostle so I don’t buy that for a second.
Paul becomes red pilled by Timothy:
But his early work in in 1 Corinthians for example leaves much to be desired:
Tell me how a wife can sanctify a husband if she has no authority over the man to lead him to salvation? If a wife has such authority, how can a husband sanctify the wife?
>everyone who follows Christ will now be saved by God.
What’s this? All you need to be is married to a Christian to be saved by God?
In 2 Corinthians Paul makes a correction and says:
But he never appears to have retracted his opinion that women should be free to choose their husband 1 Corinthians:
It is prefaced with the precondition that she be a widow; however, in Biblical times people got married very young. So young that it would not be strange to think a widow could be rather young as well. Life was harsh back then. Should a 16 year old widow be free to choose her husband? At that age shouldn’t the father be in charge of arranging a new betrothal? Moreover, it leaves open rules lawyering (ironic given Paul was against it) with how his wording leaves open the idea of an unbound women being free to marry whom she wishes.
I’m unaware of any others in the Bible holding the position Paul does on Christian women marrying non-Christian men being fine. It is in direct opposition to Old Testament God. It is in direct opposition of New Testament original apostles like Peter. Paul holds many other unorthodox views that he backtracks on over time and his phrasing sloppy at times leading to potential for various heresies.
That doesn’t mean we should disregard Paul or view him as an heretic. He’s like Jonah. He stumbles, but over time is redeemed. The problem though is that Paul’s journey took over 10 epistles in oppose to one parable. In an age of extremely short attention spans, his writing is the most easily used for extremist universalist creeds.
Safer to not take Paul too literally/seriously unless one is committed to studying the Bible.
I think Paul was being strategic in order to grow the church in age when the wives wouldn’t be forced to give up their religion. Prior to this period a Woman marrying into a Roman family would have to give up her gods for her Husband’s household God. Paul knew the state of Roman Religion and the Roman elite wanted above all else faithful and chaste wives, which only the Christians were producing. With the Roman Religion dead, the wife’s religion would take primacy with the children and she would raise Christian.
Raise Christian children.*
That was my take as well. A good Christian wife ought to nudge her husband to Christ.
I think there’s nothing wrong with taking an Ethiopian wife either. Big difference between man of race A marrying woman of race B (race B gets an infusion of race A’s genes) and man of race B marrying woman of race A (race A gets an infusion of race B’s genes). In a sense they’re the opposite thing to each other.
Interesting analysis, but my initial challenge remains unanswered. I am awaiting a demonstration that it is easy to argue that the gospels do promote racial integration. Not that they mention it, or sidestep it, or that they don’t say anything about it. If it’s hard to argue that they don’t, should be easy to argue that they do.
>I am awaiting a demonstration that it is easy to argue that the gospels do promote racial integration.
It’s not easy. I’m not making that argument. It is easy to be wrong though, and I’m laying out why based on how many people read the Bible in the following steps:
1) Initially skip over most of the Old Testament
2) Read Paul literally without figurative spiritual context
3) Obsess over the more universalist/equalist parts that Paul wrote
4) Confuse what Gospel means
5) Base all future reading of the Bible on 3 and 4
You now have a progressive Church.
It’s Gnon’s natural law that different groups of people separate from each other at least once the groups are large enough in number. Having one African around is fine, but if you got 10 or more, they’re going to need their own church. It’s sort of the basics like patriarchal marriage and women being owned by men, so obvious that it doesn’t need to be said in a sane age. Hell I doubt we would have gotten a Paul’s lecture on women’s behavior in New Testament if it wasn’t for the debased Greeks decided to liberate their women in one of their churches. Paul was just talking basic natural law.
I don’t think God particularly cares about the affairs of man, only the long-term goal of representation of Godliness.
If fear of the other is a path to Godliness, what business is that of Gods?
If integration of the other is a path to Godliness, what business is that of Gods?
Found the shill.
Yes, if you misunderstand what someone means, that automatically makes them a shill!
Good job, narcissist.
Take the shill test
All people are inherently different with different capacities and talents. Not all of these abilities or talents are useful to anyone.
Hierarchies are real and justified.
IQ is real and at least 60% of the variance is genetic.
The idea that “lust for power” defines our social models is a cope argument made up by losers.
Soros purposefully attempts to manipulate currency, societies, economies, individuals, for personal gain.
I could go on.
Good start. But ….
“Personal gain” is not an accurate account of what Soros is up to. He did not manipulate currencies, rather he received inside information of forthcoming government decisions to alter the value of their currencies. When governments stopped tinkering with their currencies so much, he stopped being able to make money on the foreign exchange market. Instead he made money buy buying up worthless debt, that was then made worth something by the World Bank, aka the long suffering US taxpayer. He is a money laundry, who funds what the powerful want funded, thus keeping their fingerprints off it.
What particular crimes has Soros recently committed against us, against ordinary Americans? Tell us of the impact of Soros on Kyle Rittenhouse.
Women question: Why are we short of grandchildren?
Race question: Why is housing unaffordable?
> He did not manipulate currencies, rather he received inside information of forthcoming government decisions to alter the value of their currencies.
Fair, but the end result of his actions was the difference in value of the currency.
>Tell us of the impact of Soros on Kyle Rittenhouse.
The poor kid has to live with killing two people, only to be publicly dragged through a court proceeding – unjustly – called names, publicly smeared, etc.
Recent crimes against ordinary Americans, I don’t know. Paying for DA’s that allow criminals to go free, although ongoing. Probably owns and maintains a lot of voting machines.
I’m not really a Soros expert, just know the bad seeds by their fruit.
>Why are we short of grandchildren?
Women prefer psychopathic status maximising and pleasure seeking over taking responsibility for the future.
Sold a bill of goods that maximising hedonic pleasure is the true meaning of life.
For some reason believe looking nice for your boss and being nice to your boss is not at all demeaning – but doing the same thing for your husband and children is.
Believe foolishly that they can retain the sheer amount of socio-sexual power that a teenage girl wields for their entire life – obviously, children dilute this power.
>Race question: Why is housing unaffordable?
Well… a certain demon worshipping race controls banking and government housing regulation and therefore the housing market
But I suspect you mean more to do with people not wanting to live near solid blocs of people of a different race.
Step one : tell people that a certain region is “racially segregated” with “whites not allowing others to live in an area” and demand low status members of a different race be “allowed” to move in.
Step two: Unproductive low status retards act like.. unproductive low status retards
Step three: productive classes move out of region, start new “decent” region somewhere else.
Step four: step one
Practically this doesn’t really need to be a “race” question, since it works just as well through the use of social housing. Nothing helps property values like your neighbours having screaming meth fuelled parties 6 days a week.
Orania neatly tries to sidestep this by saying blacks are allowed, but they have to integrate into their culture fully rather than act as hired help. Doesn’t work for them rhetorically as they’re living too harmoniously for TBTB to be comfortable with.
No, that is not what is the problem with women. That sounds a bit like “Hail fellow mysogynist, I hate women too”
Close to the truth, very close to the truth, but misses the truth in a way that avoids committing a thought crime.
Some examples of that behavior to illustrate what you mean, please. Official truth is that whites are fleeing what they built for no good reason. So why are they fleeing?
Failed the shill test by implying the creatures St Kyle wasted were people.
>No, that is not what is the problem with women. That sounds a bit like “Hail fellow mysogynist, I hate women tooâ€
I don’t hate women or think that people here are misogynists.
Hm. I was trying to be as direct as possible without saying “women are basically 10 year olds that need constant supervision “, or “women should by default be under the authority of men” which to me very much sounds like someone trying to say “hai fellow misogynists”.
To pretend that only womens natures can turn pathological and socially destructive seems like a shill comment, that’s all.
Porn damages men in the same way that “gurl u need a career” damages women, you see?
Women fundamentally control reproduction
We have let them take too much control of it legally and, being infantilised, prefer to just avoid the whole thing in favour of fucking Chad until they’re cat ladies.
When women (democratically lol) control reproduction, they naturally attempt to get Chad to impregnate them and Will to pay.
This tendency has been well noted by our forefathers and, therefore, we had (pre-chivalry cucked) marriage laws.
You’d like an example of dismantling a dumb woman argument? OK
“It’s not fair that men can get divorced if I cheat but he can cheat and I don’t get to divorce him, we need to change the laws to be “fair””
Men don’t bring their bastards home.
>Some examples of that behavior to illustrate what you mean, please. Official truth is that whites are fleeing what they built for no good reason. So why are they fleeing?
Drug dealing, theft, trying to operate a status hierarchy based on physical dominance, rape, etc.
In the US certainly blacks are encouraged to maintain these anti-social behaviours (don’t act White!!) and then shipped wholesale into the nice areas to displace the residents.
Why are whites fleeing, well, when their new neighbours have loud, crack fuelled parties and they call the cops, they get called ‘rayciss’ by Shaniqua at 911, so time to pack up, even if it costs double and their commute is tripled.
>Failed the shill test by implying the creatures St Kyle wasted were people.
The question was the damage to Kyle.
You think a 17 year old kid has that kind of wisdom? In that moment, he saw people – adults – behaving in a way that defied his expectation.
I should have used quotes around the word people, sure.
If you had said it, or even acknowledged us saying it and noticed us providing reasons and evidence that it is true, then you would have passed the shill test.
This is not why whites are fleeing. The reason that whites are fleeing is horrifyingly obvious, and yet you, strangely, cannot mention it.
Huh, did I miss this or do you have supreme editing power?
>Close to the truth, very close to the truth, but misses the truth in a way that avoids committing a thought crime.
I honestly thought what I said was a thought crime. Am I being too judicious in your view?
I think its possible for women to be respectable, assuming of course, they grow up. Which involves careful selection of an appropriate mate (whether that is their decision or their parents, or whatever, irrelevant) having a child, raising that child to be a decent human being.
Women are addicted to power like alcoholics are addicted to whisky. The real woman problem is they grow into power before they’re mature enough to handle it.
Spend the rest of their lives desperately clinging to it, instead of growing up.
Which leads into a terrible personality death spiral of never maturing.
We have no grandchildren because we pretend that a 40 year old woman is just as hot (and fertile) as a 20 year old.
>The poor kid has to live with killing two people
Why do most people seem to believe the idea that killing is the traumatic part? I run into this line of thinking a lot among Americans.
Had Kyle ran just a little slower in the parking lot be would have likely been sodomized by a homosexual pervert. Had his aim been just a little off his brains could have been splattered on the pavement either by skateboarding thugs or pistol wielding antifa. Had the police been just a little less understanding he could have been turned into Swiss chess. etc etc…
Most of the trauma comes not from killing but from realizing just how close one came to dying.
The other main source of trauma is guilt from failing one’s own tribe. i.e. not being strong enough to save a brother in arms or accidentally killing friendlies. That aspect was absent from what Kyle experienced.
Nevertheless, Kyle likely had to deal with PTSD or similar.
Standard leftist belief.
Kyle was traumatized because he wasn’t hailed as a hero for putting those rampaging invaders down and was arrested and charged with murder instead of being given ticker tape parade followed by his choice of the prettiest maid as his wife.
Having Natural law violated is always traumatic.
I once had a faggot hit on me in bowling ally when I was drinking and bowling with my friends. My first instinct was to beat him to death my bowling ball. What enraged me even more is I couldn’t attack him nor could I insult him and force him to leave without losing my job and getting tossed in jail. I’m still pissed off about it many years later. It’s that violation of the natural order that sticks with me.
>Why do most people seem to believe the idea that killing is the traumatic part? I run into this line of thinking a lot among Americans.
>Standard leftist belief.
I agree entirely with Pax, however, the question was “the trauma to Kyle”.
Whether or not it would traumatise you or I, or if he did anything wrong, was not the question I was asked.
A 17 year old has simple beliefs. Killing is a mortal sin. The nuanced context (home invaders, fed to pigs, not a sin) takes time to develop.
He took a redpill earlier than he perhaps should have, especially in a soft, leftist culture like the US.
Regarding my original point.
Kunning Druegger mentions that the scriptures do not really promote or condemn integration. I agree with this.
I agree with this because integration happens, as Adam notes, due to proximity and war. Quite often.
Scripture glosses over it because it’s not functionally something that matters to God.
Must a Godly man have white or dark skin? Are Chinese people barred from understanding or embodying Christs message due to their race?
If integration leads to Godly nature, so be it. If separation does, so be it.
I’m not “shilling” for racial integration, I think that it obviously doesn’t work for humanity at its current level of development.
It leads us away from Godliness, worrying about it.
But does God abide it? Condemn it?
God rather vigorously endorses segregation on the basis of virtue and faith, segregation on the basis of what is today evasively called “culture”.
>I don’t think God particularly cares about the affairs of man
What are the 10 commandments?
Is this shilling or just outright ignorance?
Huh? My brain broke. This isn’t shilling or ignorance. It’s stupidity trying to pose as wisdom.
It’s shilling and/or trolling. He gave 2 positions that both stupid and contradictory. The goal was to incite people to pick one position to argue with. He would then waste our time and muddle the waters arguing a bunch of pointless stupid shit.
That’s why I called him out as a shill. Arguing with him was what he wanted and like wresting with a pig, it would have gotten me dirtier than him.
[*deleted for failure to pass the shill test*]
In your attempt to pass the shill test, you alluded to thought crimes, and wandered close to thought crimes, but somehow did not commit a thought crime. I asked for clarification of the thought crime adjacent statements that you made, but clarification has not been forthcoming.
You were asked for a comment that someone posting under supervision from HR and a supervisor could not make. It is not hard, but you did not quite go there, implying thought crimes, wandering extensively in the close vicinity of thought crimes, but not actually committing them.
[*deleted for failure to pass the shill test*]
Diversity + proximity = war. We can integrate their females.
Off topic, but will be interesting to see what happens next, https://www.msn.com/en-in/sports/fifa-world-cup/iranian-world-cup-players-refuse-to-sing-national-anthem-in-solidarity-with-protesters/ar-AA14nyQS?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=114aab50450d4eb29cefb69e62444532
1. Does the Iran soccer team defect to other countries?
2. Does it return home and they get cancelled?
3. Does it return home and nothing happens?
Can’t predict the future, but If Option 3 happens, then the Ayatollah is done. Its a statement of massive loss of internal Elite cohesion in Iran
Option 4, they come home, get arrested and are publicly tossed off a high building. Rioting comes to an end.
If one wants to rule, best to rule with strength.
Happy Thanksgiving in advance. I’m doing mine today cause some people work tomorrow.
I hope each of you have family to spend your day with and to celebrate the Lord’s blessings.
Are these still relevant?
Or are there a better more complete list of current idealogues?
Who would you put on the short list of top people that folks should watch?
https://nicholasjfuentes.com/
https://christophercantwell.net/
https://radicalagenda.com/
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Jacob Wohl
Andrew Meyer
Gavin McInnes
Culttture
Alex Jones