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State of the war

Wars happen because some people expect one outcome, and others expect a different outcome. So prediction is hard, for if it was easy, the war would likely have been avoided, though as the war goes on, and on, and on, becomes easier.

Due to fog of war, hard to know what is happening now, or has happened recently, But after a while, it becomes obvious what did happen, which gives some indication of what will happen.

It has long been obvious that the west is run by demon worshippers, and with the opening of the Paris Olympics a couple of days ago, this should now be obvious to everyone. Demon worshippers want you dead. Well, they want everyone and everything dead, including themselves, but you first. The tactics and strategy of this war becomes a lot more intelligible if one understands that one side is commanded by people who believe themselves to be serving demons, or perhaps actually are serving demons.

The war started off with war of movement, as did World War I, but, as in World War I, both sides quickly became very good at shutting down the other side’s movement, and, since then, like World War One, it has been war of attrition.

The rationale for the Greatest Ukrainian Counter Offensive was to regain war of movement. Nato wonder weapons, Nato training, and all that. Of course Nato has not fought a peer war since World War Two, so have no idea.

Plus, Nato is completely structured about keeping commissioned officers nice and safe in nice safe bases, where they send grunts and non commissioned officers out to die.

I have long said that if you have one man in your army that does not fight, pretty soon you will have no men in your army that fight. Nato organisation is all about having no commissioned officers that fight. The left does not like warrior armies. Finds that it needs warrior armies, but has concluded it does not need a warrior officer corps.

This is partly the managerial state, the triumph of unaccountable bureaucracy over people who do actual things, and partly the leftist state. The left is priestly, and priests and warriors always conflict. So now we have a full priestly officer corps, which is a protection for the left against coups, but not a protection against insurrection, invasion, or conquest.

Ukraine, however, inherited from the Soviet Union a warrior army, plus the forces that made the Maidan coup were the Nazis, and a core part of their ideology is to have a warrior army and rule by warrior-priests. Nato looked down their noses at this insufficiently holy and progressive organisation, and has been re-organising them.

The plan for the Greatest Ukrainian Counter Offensive was to probe all along the front for weak points, then charge through at the weakest point, cutting off Russian forces to the west, thus regaining a vast swathe of territory to the west, without having to fight for every ditch, every tree, and every house.

The weakest point turned out to be the low ground between Russian controlled high ground. Ukrainian progress through the buffer zone in front of the Russian defence lines was very slow, and very costly, and when they finally reached the first line of defence, and occupied it, they had to bring troops and materials to it through a long and winding gauntlet along the low ground between Russian strong places on the high ground on either side. They got to the first line of defence, but were never able to get beyond it, for whenever they stuck their heads above the fortifications that they had managed to seize, their heads got blown off. The Russians had prepared their first line of defence to be indefensible against attacks coming from their second line of defence. The “weakest point” was a killing field, and the first line of defence was a death trap.

The Ukrainians lost an army, except for their retreat blocking brigades, and had to conscript a new army.

The interesting and extraordinary thing was the West’s stubborn persistence in a strategy that had turned out to be horrifically bad and entirely disastrous. Why did they just keep pumping more and more men into killing fields and death traps?

Partly it was the managerial state. The mid level managers are focused on on next week’s power point presentation, and demand that the low level managers supply them with with good bullet points for that presentation. The high level managers look at the good bullet points, and all is well, so issue orders to keep doing what you are doing, so the system as a whole tends to mindlessly pursue a short term, high time preference strategy, while generating meaningless numbers showing highly successful pursuit of a long term, low time preference strategy. The Russians on the other hand, tended to focus on winning the war, hence actually did pursue a long term, low time preference strategy, where they sought to conserve their resources for the final battles, brave men being the most important resource of all.

Partly it was demon worship. Those organising this war want Russians to die, but also want Ukrainians to die. The people who organised the Maidan coup are Jews with family reasons for wanting Ukrainians dead and the Ukraine destroyed.

The managerial state reinforces leftism, because being in contact with reality is a bad career move, and leftism reinforces the managerial state, because leftists do not like people telling them that reality is real, and both of them reinforce demon worship, because demon worshippers are fine with actual reality going to $#!&. All three depend on lies, each of them provides a different reason for lying, but a lie promulgated for one reason finds support from the other two reasons. The bureaucrat wants the right bullet points regardless of whether the bullet points meaningfully represent reality, the leftist does not believe that existence exists, that reality is real, and the demon worshipper just likes lies and lying. The confident inversion of truth is the demonic equivalent of prayer.

The Greatest Ukrainian Counter Offensive eventually petered out, due to lack of men, and lack of weapons. Nato is out of ammo. Nato troops have been disarmed.

In order to continue attriting the Ukrainians, the Russians were forced to go on the offensive. Since the objective is attrit the enemy, rather than gain turf, there are no big arrow offensives. Every ditch, every tree, every ruin, is gained at enormous cost to both sides.

It looks to me that when well trained, well equipped, highly motivated, battle hardened, experienced, Russian troops attempt to take a village from well trained, well equipped, highly motivated, battle hardened, experienced, Ukrainian troops, they suffer very high casualties and frequently fail.

Fortunately for the Russians, most of the well trained, well equipped, highly motivated, battle hardened, experienced, Ukrainian troops died in the Greatest Ukrainian Counter Offensive.

Increasingly the battles consist of experienced and highly motivated Russian vets versus barely trained reluctant Ukrainian fresh meat. The death rate among inexperienced Ukrainian troops is vastly higher than the death rate among Ukrainian vets. The number of Ukrainian vets continues to shrink. Fresh Ukrainian conscripts do not seem to be becoming vets, but corpses — in part due to a commissioned officer corps that is grossly out of contact with reality. If you want your fresh meat to survive to become vets, you need to issue retreat orders in time.

The Ukrainians have a troop rotation policy that should in theory result in fresh meat becoming battle hardened veterans, but this does not seem to be actually happening in practice all that much.

In part the bubble of delusion around the Ukrainian commissioned officer corps is a result of the managerial state, the triumph of unaccountable bureaucracy over functionality, the Natoization of the Ukrainian military. In part it is the result of leftism, for leftism inherently tends to solipsism. And in part, demon worshippers just like human sacrifice.

A few weeks ago I reported that the Russians were taking one or two villages every one or two days. Now it is one to four villages every day. Because the Ukrainians are out of everything, and most of all, by far, they are out of men.

This is reminiscent of the hundred days phase of World War One.

At the current rate of advance, it will be a very long time before the front line changes significantly, but the exact position of the front line does not matter. What matters is how much army and government the Ukraine has left. And the accelerating rate of Russian advance reveals that the Ukraine has considerably less, and that what it does have is shrinking every faster.

So the questions are:

1. Will the Ukraine make the concessions the Russians are asking for?

Probably not, because everyone in the Ukraine dying cannot possibly happen for the managerial elite, cannot happen and is unimportant for the left, and is a positively delightful outcome for the demon worshippers.

2. If they don’t make the concessions, when does the Ukrainian muppet government disappear?

Never, because the muppet government is located in Washington and Cambridge.

3. OK, when does the muppet government lose the ability to hold photo ops in the Ukraine?

And that is what is hard to know. Could be tomorrow, could be years. The sooner it happens, the more Ukrainians there will be left in the Ukraine. I hope for November, by analogy to the hundred days that led to the end of World War One.

901 comments State of the war

JustAnotherGuy says:

To me its very funny that herr putler would have made peace at the beginning of war with the slightest of changes but was denied because they believed in endsieg. Still being a 1990s liberal, they just had to appeal to his sense of slightly-less-gay version of modern reality, but couldn’t even have the pretense to do that. Very revealing in that we are not ruled by ‘smart people’ who know what they are doing.

Like Jim said before, I know of a smart guy who still manages to find ways to explain how this is a 4D chess move, and that the high death rate of russian officers / generals vs not-NATO officers / generals is because of superior NATO tactics, strategem, intelligence, and all that other garbage.

Jim, do you still believe summer is still when 404 army vanishes or has that date changed?

jim says:

I don’t know the time. To kill every single Ukrainian at the current rate will take a long time. I hope for the Ukraine to fold well before then.

Fidelis says:

It’s just another way to get rid of whites for the people currently in power. Ukraine might well fold, but the war will not be over until there are troops in Washington (and maybe Boston). Does Putin realize this? I’m not sure he does, but Prigozhin certainly understood, and said as much.

Dharmicreality says:

The confident inversion of truth is the demonic equivalent of prayer.

This is absolute genius Jim. Sums up globohomo religion in one line.

Upravda says:

Excellent analysis, not just about war in 404, but about (western) modernism in general.

I’m continuing to expect the end of war during winter-spring 2025. In some moment, a short civil war will erupt in Ukraine. And, yes, both sides will claim they’ll fight “The Orks” until blue-yellow flag will have been flying over Sevastopolj, or something.

However, if one side wins, they’ll surrender to Russians. And kill all of Azov and Jews. That entire 404-related business will quickly fall into oblivion in “the West”, very probably because of some New Big Thing.

If the other side wins, they’ll quickly lose large swathes of territory because Azov will not be enough to defend it. Puppet pro-Russian regime will be established on those lost territories. For a few more years the other side will hold in Ukrainian far west until fading into obscurity and falling to pro-Russian regime, also very probably because of some New Big Thing.

The real question is: What will be that New Big Thing?

Fidelis says:

I’m expecting that if the radicals rip the wheel away from the wavering neocons, we’re going to see something that forces all the population home and concentrated in the cities and suburbs, shortly followed by mass killings. Possibly another bioterrorism event, hey it worked last time, possibly some fake cyberwar false flag on different infrastructure.

Getting the steal will hearten and excite them, and the halfhearted fight put up by the scared left will steel their resolve that the root source of rassism has to be eliminated once and for all in order to defeat the evil spilling out of Eurasia.

Mayflower Sperg says:

Why not pivot back to climate change? Nagging people to give up meat, heat, air conditioning, and freedom of movement never gets old.

FrankNorman says:

Or the old Leftist one of “It’s not faaair for you to have all those nice things while all the brown people don’t!”

Upravda says:

They were doing climate change since the end of eighties. Didn’t really fly. Nobody cared. That’s why they, our rulers, The Occult Oligarchy as one of my countryman calls them for almost two decades, invented Wu Flu.

After that, Putler, but also didn’t really fly. Nobody actually cares about muh Ukraine, not even those who are otherwise very loud about it.

@Fidelis might be right about bioterrorism plus cyberwar, but somehow I doubt that there will be killing squads. Not because our rulers are scrupulous, they are not, but because they wouldn’t be able to find enough willing executioners. It seems much more likely to me that they would simply blockade the cities and other places of mass concentration (heh) and wait for hunger and illness to do the job.

Mayflower Sperg says:

They won’t blockade the cities, we’ll blockade the cities and watch unarmed white and Jewish liberals get eaten by their beloved diversity.

The masses may not care much about climate change, but it’s always been immensely popular among the global elite because it provides the perfect rationale for a world government empowered to regulate everything that burns, breathes, or farts. Even Putin and Xi agree in principle that climate change must be stopped.

Neither climate change nor the New Big Thing need mass appeal. The elites will believe it and the masses will be forced to comply.

Pete says:

There will be kill squads for sure. What do you think all these migrants are for? Once things start collapsing, the city people won’t be able to pay the farmers to keep shipping food to the cities.

Under normal circumstances, not getting paid would mean the farmers revert to selling (or bartering) their food to the folks in their immediate area, but to the city libs that will be unacceptable. They will want the food to continue flowing to the elites and niggers in the cities, thus they will need to send squads out to the rural areas to confiscate the food.

When a rural area resists this, the migrant confiscation squad becomes a death squad. Any town that resists too much and sends the migrants running back to the city with tail between legs, will result in a total carpet bombing of that area, pour encourager les autres.

Upravda says:

Killing squads might comprise of migrants, although I have a hard time imagining local Filipinos here in such a role. They would be eaten first. 🙂

On the other hand, using outsiders for killing rebellious locals is old and well-known tactics, but for success you have to have a lot of outsiders, preferably of a more warrior type than small Filipinos, Nepalese and lone Sikhs.

S says:

It is an odd sort of collapse where there is unified political authority for all of America’s cities and the economic situation is secure enough for the agriculture and military aircraft to continue running at normal efficiency. More likely to follow the same path as last time and rerun feudalism.

jim says:

Feudalism sort of to some extent grew spontaneously from the ground up, as peasants looked to local strong men for protection, and as mobile bandits settled down to become stationary bandits. But it also grew from the top down — Charles the Hammer formed an aristocratic army, which spontaneously led to aristocratic governance.

S says:

A rerun will look more like the latter. Modern farming is capital intensive so the minimum scale is large enough to support industry to keep the farms running.

alf says:

My latest understanding of feudalism, correct me if wrong, is that horses were the glue that kept it all together. Whereas the Romans had a mainly infantry based army, the latest breed of horses had now become strong enough to swiflty carry men long distances on their back. This combined with invention of horse shoes, saddles and stirrups meant that cavalry became king on the battleground. But since it takes a lot of money and dedication to raise horses: aristocratic army. Hence, feudalism.

jim says:

Charles the Hammer did not rely on cavalry. But nonetheless, he created feudalism, in as much as any one man can be said to have created it. He needed a highly trained well equipped army of good men, an army of the best, not an army of anyone the press gangs could grab

The Aryan conquest was also aristocratic. Horses, chariots, bronze weapons, bronze armor, and recurve bows. Bronze being more expensive than iron.

There are plenty of examples of aristocratic governance that did not rely on aristocratic warfare. But if you have aristocratic warfare, you tend to wind up with aristocratic governance, and if you do not have aristocratic warfare, aristocratic governance is apt to vanish.

There is a connection, but it is not a simple one to one connection. There is a correlation between aristocratic warfare and aristocratic governance, but it is not a very strong correlation. Aristocracy, once established in war and anarchy, tends to persist.

Neurotoxin says:

“There will be kill squads for sure. What do you think all these migrants are for?… [and for those who resist] total carpet bombing…”

Absurd. I just did a post on this, but here’s the short version:

Most immigrants come here because it’s prosperous and peaceful. When the economy tanks and bullets are flying through the air, 95% of them will instantly sprint back to Mexico. This actually happened during the last two recessions.

And those were recessions without civil war. What’s the immigration pattern in Ukraine lately?

“Any town that resists too much and sends the migrants running back to the city with tail between legs, will result in a total carpet bombing of that area, pour encourager les autres.”

My God, but this is stupid.

(1) The US military is already running out of bombs. And is having a very hard time making more.

(2) This is not a foreign war. In this scenario the airbases, etc., are located inside the country they’re bombing, surrounded by the people they’re bombing. Those people have various ways of disrupting the flow of food, power, etc., to the base…

(3) The vast majority of white people in the military are not going to participate in a program to genocide white people. (Do I really have to say this?)

(4) A couple of months ago the President of the United States could not even order the Governor and Border Patrol of Texas to stand down at the border. But you think the military will obey an order to commit genocide? LOL.

(5) If we let them take our food, we’re dead anyway, so we have no reason not to fight to the end. There is no “pour encourager les autres” here – that’s not a relevant concept – because you can’t say “Let me kill you, or else I’ll kill you.”

Black pilling is so stupid that it’s like some sort of weird sexual fetish. Are you wacking off with one hand while you type black pill posts with the other hand?

I am not saying civil war is going to be easy or fun; don’t mis-read me. Obviously our enemy has strengths as well as weaknesses. But black pilling while we’re watching our enemies destroy themselves in real-time is just ridiculous. I feel a little silly even bothering to refute it; it doesn’t so much call for refutation as psychoanalysis.

yewotm8 says:

I always thought Contamined NEET’s posting was more of a thought experiment. A devil’s advocate.

Neurotoxin says:

Even if it did start out that way, it is not that any longer.

(Side note: I was replying to Pete.)

The Cominator says:

“Most immigrants come here because it’s prosperous and peaceful.”
I quibble with this, most come here because of gibs or because they bought into some kind of Coming to America propaganda which hasn’t been true since the 80s (and certainly not since 2012ish). But on the main point most will leave if civil war breaks out I mean at least if they can get out.

Neurotoxin says:

“Most immigrants come here because it’s prosperous and peaceful.”
I quibble with this, most come here because of gibs or because they bought into some kind of Coming to America propaganda…

Sure, a lot come for gibs. Same basic point, though.

Fidelis says:

This just reads to me as “this is unthinkable therefore it won’t happen”. Every step of the way has been rather unthinkable, and it’s happened all the same.

It won’t be some industrial operation, and it won’t be official orders to the military. Just picture BLM and Rwanda combined. Get the hate whitey crowd going, make sure they understand that they are free to kill as many as they’d like, and that the artillery and drones are their support. Anyone organizing can be branded as a white supreme racist pedophile organization, and just like all the other such branded organizations the military will have no issues with firing on them.

jim says:

> Anyone organizing can be branded as a white supreme racist pedophile organization, and just like all the other such branded organizations the military will have no issues with firing on them.

White supremacist racist pedophile has been devalued by overuse. It will not work this time around. Whites males just do not buy it any more.

What you are depicting is what antifa and BLM made a start on doing. They cut it out when Kyle and the rest of the militia showed up.

Kyle and the rest of the militia organised. Antifa demanded that the police and military go after them — and the police suffered mysterious deafness.

Which is analogous to what happened when Texas told the feds and the supremes to get knotted.

Fidelis says:

>not buying it anymore
Most normies fence sit. They are neither in belief or disbelief. The true believers will push them to one side or another.

>failure to act
Personnel problems that will be dealt with, in the case of radicals ripping the steering wheel off. Doing nothing is insufficient to stop the phenomenon in the medium or long term.

jim says:

> Most normies fence sit.

Not after a couple of beers.

> in the case of radicals ripping the steering wheel off.

In the case of radicals ripping the steering wheel off, yes, normies going to hit the dirt and try to stay out of sight till one side or the other has won, correctly anticipating war.

But the rip the steering wheel off strategy is “give us our way, or it is going to be civil war” To which chad replies “OK”.

skippy says:

They are getting to the point where firing the non-compliant is causing functions they need to stop working. They have to choose between two bad options.

This election is another example of that. They can choose between letting Trump win, or continuing to claim that they are the smartest guys in the room, that they are the most cultured and sweet smelling, and that they are not actually planning white male genocide, with Kamala Harris as the public leader of their party.

They are being forced into these contradictions by the inherent untruthfulness of their positions.

Fidelis says:

>Not after a couple of beers.
Normies change opinions when the big ape with a megaphone tells them it’s okay. Doesn’t have to be an official science certified big ape megaphone, but it’s not some internal logic they’re following. You can pull these opinions out of them, mostly grumbling complaints, but the behavior is to follow the big ape in a large herd not to act or plan individually beyond the obvious flee danger/gather resources instinct.

No big ape, no action. At best we get extreme reluctance, which we do see now, but which gets dealt with.

>But the rip the steering wheel off strategy is “give us our way, or it is going to be civil war”
I doubt they’ll be satisfied just by getting their puppet in. If the Trump project fails, they’ll have the scapegoat of everyone involved with that movement to victimize first, but then they’ll quarrel with each other. That quarreling will be destabilizing, but it will also animate the violent instinct and give them the organizational steel that is missing now. It will push the most violent and organized to the top of the radical pile, and from there the total revolution starts.

The federal system seems too deeply compromised for a big ape that doesn’t want to kill all paleskins to emerge. Perhaps we will see something out of the state governments.

Neurotoxin says:

This just reads to me as “this is unthinkable therefore it won’t happen”. Every step of the way has been rather unthinkable, and it’s happened all the same.

None of those steps have been people shooting at you. You didn’t shoot members of the Supreme Court when they issued one of their unthinkable rulings over the last few decades, but if John Roberts starts shooting at you, you will shoot back. The vast majority of people will, anyway.

Just picture BLM and Rwanda combined. Get the hate whitey crowd going, make sure they understand that they are free to kill as many as they’d like, and that the artillery and drones are their support.

“Artillery”?! “Artillery”?! What kind of war do you think this is going to be?!

And that artillery is stored on military bases largely staffed by genocide targets who don’t want to be genocided. Drone factories inside the country that the drones are attacking.

In the previous century I had a neighbor who was a cop. I knew he was a cop, I knew his wife and kids. And everyone else in that neighborhood did too. If cops had started genociding white people, oh la la, I have no interest in finishing this sentence; I’ll just let you finish it in your imagination.

Contaminated NEET says:

>If cops had started genociding white people

Cops have been genociding white people for 50 years.

jim says:

Over the years I have had quite a few interactions with cops, for violence and for interactions with fertile age women. My record remains as pure as the driven snow.

I can report that police are profoundly reluctant to enforce progressive laws. Well, actually profoundly reluctant to enforce any laws, but especially progressive ones.

Again, consider the Kyle Rittenhouse case. It was not the police enforcing the law against self defence. After killing three attackers, Kyle rolled up the the cops, with a crowd of people complaining about him killing three people, reported to the cops he had killed three people, got waved away. This is similar to, though more extreme than, my own experience.

I have rolled up a few times, to get ahead of someone else making a complaint against me, which was likely what Kyle was doing, been sent away a few times.

Fidelis says:

>none of those steps have been people shooting at you
Are you denying what happened to every American city? What happens when a nig shoots you in New York? 2 weeks time out. You’re imagining armored soldiers, I’m imagining diversity and aunt tifa types being given the message that it’s fine kill as many business owners as you like.

>artillery
Yes just like Rwanda and Waco and various other movements over the years.

>don’t want to be genocided
Do you think I’m suggesting that they just announce on CNN, ‘okay go kill whitey now, we’re genociding!’ The grunts will be left in a state of confusion and crisis– we’re at peace and the electricity works and frankly they still exist now in a state of confusion– and at best will just fail to act. If you were to organize something that looks threatening, they would act. This is classic color revolution stuff.

You’re still picturing something industrial. I’m picturing the march that has been going since at least desegregation– who would allow their kid to be sent to a school full of blacks, unthinkable! — and then section 8 — who would allow their neighborhood to be destroyed by a flood of blacks on welfare, unthinkable! — and introduction of family court — who would allow the state to rip away your income and give it to your adulterous wife so she can pimp out your children, unthinkable!

This is just more of the same, and it will move at the current speed of leftism.

jim says:

Observed cop behaviour under these circumstances is to take a very relaxed attitude to private citizens taking out the trash. As what is happening right now escalates (it is already legal in blue cities for brown people to kill white people) expect cops to become every more relaxed, and white people to wake up out of normality bias.

When things get to the point where they are trying bombard the suburbs with artillery, expect Shaniqua to be managing the artillery and flying the bombers.

What happened in the Rwandan genocide is that Hutus were engaging in organised violence, and the state had successfully prevented Tutsis from engaging in organised violence. Tutsis organised from outside, invaded, and immediately ran into white troops protecting the genocidaires with artillery and air. But what happened was that the Hutu grunts protecting the white artillery evaporated real fast, and the white artillery did not have enough white grunts to protect it from Tutsi grunts, so the Tutsi rapidly acquired the white artillery and air.

> I’m imagining diversity and aunt tifa types being given the message that it’s fine kill as many business owners as you like.

That message has already been sent. Has had little effect. To actually have effect, they need to organise violence, while preventing white organised violence. Organising violence competently is hard, and when one manages to do it, one will find it hard to prevent the other guy from organising violence. Particularly if the other guy has a lot more competence to organise violence than you do.

The Rwandan genocide was organised by Jews, not by blacks, but they were pushing $#!% uphill because they were trying to organise Hutus. BLM and aunt tifa similarly organised by Jews, and similarly pushing $#!% uphill. The white race is number one for organising violence.

Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

Subjectification can habituate a lot of horrifying things that would be unconscionable for a right thinking man.

Not all things are equally interchangeable though. There’s only so many thing you can go through before you start hitting the Qin limit.

“So if the penalty for being late is death, and the penalty for rebellion is also death, then…”

Neurotoxin says:

If cops had started genociding white people
Cops have been genociding white people for 50 years.

Retarded. We’re talking about an actual, fast-motion genocide. As you know damn well. Cut the crap.

I’m imagining diversity and aunt tifa types being given the message that it’s fine kill as many business owners as you like…
[a couple of lines later:]
Do you think I’m suggesting that they just announce on CNN, ‘okay go kill whitey now, we’re genociding!’

Yes, since you said that in the previous sentence.

artillery
Yes just like Rwanda and Waco and various other movements over the years.

Oh, okay. Here’s what they’ll do. They’ll use artillery to bomb one white neighborhood. Then they’ll do that for another neighborhood. And so on. Until all 204 million white people in the US are dead. Genocide by artillery!

You were that kid who ate the paste in art class, weren’t you? I could black-pill better than this. I DO black-pill better than this, when I’m scenario-running.

Neurotoxin says:

In summary: the black-pillers here are arguing that a civil war in which people fight back is impossible, cannot happen, even though civil wars actually happen on this planet all the time. It’s bewildering. What purpose could be served by such nonsense?

Mindless black pilling hurts us because it takes attention from our enemy’s actual strengths. And our enemy is still, in many ways, terribly strong. As I have said before, we must focus on all four factors: our strengths, our weaknesses, our enemy’s strengths, our enemy’s weaknesses. There is no case for ignoring any of these. Mindless “WE’RE DOOOOOOOMED!!!” black pilling removes attention from a serious analysis of our enemy’s strengths and our weaknesses. By injecting noise into the signal, it disrupts our planning process. This – and the attempted demoralization – is why I interpret it as enemy action.

Fidelis says:

Continue beating your strawman. I never claimed:

– no attempt to fight back
– artillery and drones would be used from the start on random suburbs

You are projecting your imagination into the conversation and getting mad that what you are picturing in your head is ridiculous. Here is what I’m picturing, coincident with some crisis that makes movement and communications difficult: to take out the small towns, they bus in lots of ‘protestors’. To prevent the people organizing ‘protests’ from getting attacked, artillery and drone cover.

Re: blackpilling, I’ve said multiple times they couldn’t actually kill every white man in the GAE; not in this conversation thread, true, but on this blog. I’m saying a manufactured crisis and the subsequent attempt will be very deadly, and being ‘unthinkable’ people are in general ill-prepared and it will get very far very fast.

jim says:

> to take out the small towns, they bus in lots of ‘protestors’. To prevent the people organizing ‘protests’ from getting attacked, artillery and drone cover.

This is similar to what the Global American Empire did in the Rwandan genocide. They lost. It is not an unbeatable combo.

The Rwandan problem was that the people attempting to stop the genocide went after the artillery. Duh! To screen the Global American Empire artillery, the GAE needed grunts to stop the other side’s grunts. And Hutu grunts just were not very good.

If one’s artillery and drone operators are screened by “protesters” they are going to be lost.

What you describe is doable, but it is hardly a slam dunk. Last time around, it failed. Of course that was old style mass grunt warfare. Today, its drones. And, as we are seeing in Burma, drones are within reach of the non state side.

Neurotoxin says:

Continue beating your strawman. I never claimed:
– no attempt to fight back
– artillery and drones would be used from the start on random suburbs.

And I never claimed no white people would die.

Calvin says:

Israeli war against Lebanon looks quite likely, so possibly that and a subsequent war with Iran.

bob sykes says:

Russian losses are only about 20% of Ukrainian losses, because Russia has overwhelming fire supremacy in all classes of weapons. So, they simply hammer the Ukrainian positions flat, and then engage the survivors.

The Russian goals remain: de-nazification, de-militarization, no NATO for Ukraine, and recognition of the five oblasts plus Crimea as part of Russia.

The Istanbul accords, initialed by Russia and Ukraine, but vetoed by the US, would have left all the oblasts except Crimea in Ukraine. A half million or more Ukrainians and a hundred thousand or so Russians. would not have died. The whole disaster is US Satanists’ doing, beginning in 2014.

I used to be a patriot, and I believed the lies told by our leaders. But now I know that the US must be disarmed and cut up into many very small states.

Pax Imperialis says:

Balkanized US would be a disaster. A breakaway conservative Texas/Florida/etc might be content with live and let live, but leftists are never content with Westphalian peace. A leftist California/New York/etc will want revolution in your successor state.

The next regime must secure territorial integrity if only to have jurisdiction to stamp out leftism in all corners of continental America.

This isn’t even getting into the problem of Mexico and the surprisingly dangerous problem Canada would become for ‘very small states’ America.

Mayflower Sperg says:

Balkanized US would be glorious. Canada and the leftist states would be desperately struggling to feed, house, and not be murdered by the tens of millions of niggers who fled the rightist states when they abolished welfare and legalized (or just stopped enforcing laws against) vigilante justice.

Pax Imperialis says:

And what if the leftist states give these hoards weapons and directions to target rural farmers in your small rightist states? Something akin to South Africa’s farm attacks. There’s all kinds of devious mischief the leftist states could get up to, and will get up to. Foreign states would have all sorts of reasons for escalating the problem. At some point the rightist states will have to clean the problem up from the origin.

To put the problem in current terms, how did Israel giving up all of its gains from the 6 day war and being balkanized back into a 3 state ‘solution’ (Israel proper, Gaza strip, and West Bank) work out for them? Turns out such a solution was no solution and they’re back at war.

My point is that we’re at war with the left, and Balkanization doesn’t end the war. Worse, it prevents a mostly bloodless restoration coup from possibility. Balkanization would result in our current, mostly cold, war going hot really fucking fast.

Ryan says:

The SA government supports the raiders, not the farmers.
In a balkanized white state, the police and state army plus local militias would be on the side of the farmers. It would take a serious and obvious army to invade. Untrained raiders would be picked off with trivial ease.

Mayflower Sperg says:

Leftists can’t fight, and their ability to bribe or bamboozle others into fighting for them is waning by the day. No matter how you arm them, niggers are useless against any sort of organized resistance.

If foreign countries want to get involved, let them. If North America becomes a Chinese colony, white people will be second-class citizens, a huge step up from the absolute pariahs we are now. Even Mexican drug cartels would allow white men to have wives. As Tuco said, “I like doing business with a family man, there’s always a lot of collateral.”

Contaminated NEET says:

>Leftists can’t fight

This is not true. Don’t be fooled by their bleeding heart rhetoric and their effeminate fashion sense; Leftists fight with a fanaticism and fury the Right hasn’t been able to summon since the Crusades. Their record speaks for itself.

DH says:

You have failed to notice the rapid degeneration of the left.

The left often wins when it has a competent army. Where is its competent army in 2024? It no longer has a competent army, because it no longer has a competent faith. 2024 leftism is pure madness. They rely on technological superiority, and it is declining fast as a result of said madness.

AI research is increasingly aligned with the Thermidorian faction, while the Obama faction is terrified (genuinely or otherwise) that Musk will use magic tech to break the left.

Contaminated NEET says:

The USSR destroyed its army’s competence immediately before the biggest war of all time. They fixed the problem and conquered half the world. These people have good reason to think history is on their side.

jim says:

The USSR is no more, and our current rulers are showing all the same symptoms with knobs on.

From 1910 to 1933, our rulers destroyed our army’s competence. Then when Hitler was elected, they did an abrupt U turn.

Our current rulers are doing a feeble half hearted partial deceleration. They kind of backed off on covid, but are still going full speed ahead on the biggy, feminizing and emasculating the army and the police force.

When our rulers do the same U turn that they did in 1933, crimininalising homosexuality and cross dressing, actively enforcing those laws, providing social support for wife spanking and private violence against gays and traps, when the army is remasculinized, then we may worry about that they may have fixed the problem. But we will probably be too busy celebrating to worry.

Plus, to do a U turn is Thermidor, and for Thermidor to do a U turn this drastic they will need reaction and the white terror. Going to need to toss gays and cross dressers off high buildings.

That path is Thermidor hires reaction to deal with the lefter-than-thou, and then after the white terror has done its work, crushes reaction. But this is a chancy path, and you are more likely to get reaction and the white terror crushing Thermidor after it and Thermidor have dealt with the lefter-than-thou.

DH says:

Would the USSR allow seven feet men to compete in female sports?

Come on, these people are beyond deranged. You imagine leftists as an abstraction that exists in the mind. Look at actual leftists that actually exist in the real world of today. Leftists used to be masculine and competent. They stopped being masculine in the 1960s with the hippies (and have gone increasingly less masculine ever since), and they stopped being competent around 2010 when social media, particularly Tumblr, infected their minds with a veritable pandemic of demons – social media greatly accelerated the holiness spiral.

These lunatic sissies will be screaming “please, don’t kill me, I’m begging you!” far sooner than you realize. The only question is who will be killing them.

Mayflower Sperg says:

A U-turn was possible in 1933 because the halls of power were full of white men who remembered what masculinity was and what it was good for. The knowledge that today’s Thermidorians would need to restore a functioning society exists only in old books that Jim has read and they have not.

S says:

The left had to get Nazis to enforce their will in Ukraine; the International Brigades were still born. At home they have antifa which are genetic trash and lose when not backed by the police. They certainly have fanaticism born of envy but that doesn’t help when your enemy can shoot back. They rely on the police, security services and military; the same fury that propels them forward forces them to undermine the tools to enforce their will.

jim says:

No nation with a gay parade has ever won a war.

Leftists won in combat back when anyone cross dressing took his life in his hands. In the Ukraine, they had to make up with 1930s leftists — the Azov Nazis.

Yes. Those leftists can fight. But Antifa and the like are utterly dependent on police and court protection.

Contaminated NEET says:

Antifa fights like it does because it has police and court protection, and it knows it. Its strongest weapon isn’t fists, or guns, or bike locks: it’s summoning Leviathan’s wrath on anyone who fights back. Losing street fights to win the war has worked out splendidly for them. Their tactics might appear cowardly or dishonest, but they work. The people at the top of their organizations chose them deliberately and well for the environment they operate in.

Victory needs no explanation. Defeat allows none.

jim says:

> Antifa fights like it does because it has police and court protection

It fights like it does because it is incapable of fighting. This has been proven every time someone fights back, often against enormous odds. If you fight back, you win on the street, even if outnumbered ten to one. It is just that you subsequently go to jail for life plus four hundred years.

Contaminated NEET says:

So you go to jail for life plus 400 years, and they maybe get a bloody nose, and you call that winning? It feels good to “win” the street fight in the moment, but then you lose big. The smarter Lefties, the leaders and the strategists, are counting on that, and they’re deliberately engineering circumstances to make it happen. Their “weakness” baits their enemies into exposing themselves to their mightiest weapons. They know exactly what they’re doing. By laughing at their tactical “weakness” and saying their subsequent huge strategic victory somehow doesn’t count because it was the police and courts that did it, you’re behaving exactly as they predicted and intended you to. The police and the courts are elements of the battlefield, the Antifa is expert at using them. It’s insane that you call them weak when they win every fight.

jim says:

> So you go to jail for life plus 400 years, and they maybe get a bloody nose, and you call that winning?

You are telling me they have state power, while acknowledging they have lost the capacity to defend state power.

When Antifa displays weakness in a street fight, it is not because of IQ four hundred master minds planning for them to be weak. It is because they are weak. It is like inability to rebuild the trade towers, or astronauts stuck in space, or Nato running out of ammo.

You think Nato running out of shells and Ukrainians was part of some genius clever plan? Running out of Ukrainians was deliberate, but it was demonic madness, not brilliant planning, and running out of ammo was a total shock to them that they continue to refuse to believe.

> The smarter Lefties, the leaders and the strategists

The leaders and strategists are people like Hillary, Kamala, and Obama. These people are obviously stupid. Look at what the leaders and strategists are reading and writing. Their entertainments and activities are the entertainments and activities of people on the wrong side of the bell curve. Soros the younger may well be smart, for his father was very smart, but he is merely a minion, a minion of idiots. Kagan is a midwit, therefore Blinken and Nuland are likely midwits, while Hillary, Kamala, and Obama are just startlingly stupid..

When one hires game testers, one wants the game test lead smart enough to talk to the engineers, but one wants the regular game testers to be average gamers. Hillary and Obama would not be hired for game testers, because dumber than our target audience.

Your original claim was that the left could rebuild an army. It cannot — because it has gone too far. The necessary changes would be massive backtracking on leftism. They would have to start with the white terror.

Contaminated NEET says:

Antifa’s cowardly unchivalrous but effective street fight tactics most certainly are planned. They have manuals, and they teach things like shouting, “Get away from me! Don’t touch me! Stop attacking me!” as you advance on your target and strike him. It works.

>Your original claim was that the left could rebuild an army.
Fair. The thread that connects Antifa to the GAE’s army is that each are well-adapted and adequate to the battlefields they fight on and the goals they pursue. If conditions or goals change, they will try to adapt to them. You say they won’t be able to, but that remains to be seen. Ukraine is an ill omen for the GAE army, but so far that’s all it is. Once things get serious for them, the Left will take things more seriously. I’d wouldn’t have bet on the USSR in Fall 1941, but they turned things around and won a world-historic victory.

Even supposing they take a big L vs. China, Russia, and/or Iran, nobody’s going to invade the mainland USA, and the remains of the GAE army should be more than up to keeping the racist sexist domestic terrorists and back-stabbing disloyal extremists that lost us the war under control.

jim says:

> Antifa’s cowardly unchivalrous but effective street fight tactics most certainly are planned

Sure, planned by people who know that they are unable to recruit or motivate an actual fighting force.

Look at what has been happening in the color revolutions: As soon as shit got real in Syria, their forces instantly melted away, and they had to ask Isis to put on white hats, which is similar to Nasa hitching a ride on the Soviet rocket. In the Ukraine, Blinken has to buddy up with the Nazis in a Nazi bar. I doubt he liked that.

This is similar to the Chinese and Roman Empires hiring the barbarians to fight the barbarians. It is a manifestation of weakness.

Sooner or later the barbarians are going to come to an arrangement to visit the paymasters. “Hey, maybe we should go where the gold is rather than where the steel is.”

And in Hong Kong, their forces abruptly melted away, and left them with their pants down. In America, they don’t have anything, because anything that they could potentially use, could potentially be used against them. They do not want to have the equivalent of Sikhs or Nazis too close to home.

S says:

‘points at the International Brigades’
We know the left can’t adapt because if they could churn out leftist paramilitaries capable of fighting they would have sent them to Ukraine. Spain got 40,000 during its civil war in 1936- the best estimate for Ukraine is 2,000.

Oscar C. says:

If Israel does not emerge victorious from his current conflict your thesis will be vindicated.

The Cominator says:

A balkanized US would literally have millions of leftists in California dying of thirsts very very soon as the water supply to LA (which depends on stealing water from a bunch of other states around them) would be cut almost immediately.

Pax Imperialis says:

Remind me how many did the Soviets killed through failed agricultural plans? They still managed to be a major problem. Death cults will fight far beyond reasonable. Californian water supply issues would likely lead to attempts to secure the Colorado river by force.

How many nations do you think would have a bone to pick with what ever is left of America? Maybe I’m just a bit paranoid, but after all those color revolutions you’d think maybe someone might want to return the favor by dumping a bunch of weapons into Californian ports for laughs.

A large chunk of the US military is based in California, including nuclear assets. Do you really trust a death cult that would likely spiral and spiral and spiral harder and harder and harder as they starve to rationally apply principles of MAD? Coastal leftists act in a way that begs for WW3 with Russia. They’d behave and think with far more derangement over something close to home.

I’d prefer to not test any of these possibilities and see the problem solved through a Caesar.

Gedeon says:

Have you seen the Colorado gov’s “wife”?

Colorado has the second largest federal presence after DC beltway.

Cloudswrest says:

Just looked it up. Wish I hadn’t.

Fidelis says:

Frankly I would love both the breaking of the nuclear taboo and the ensuing Crusade to purify California.

We’re at the point now where we spiral into auto-genocide, or flimsy ‘Global South’ style military junta. Balkanozation would be far better than a unitary entity in both of those cases– competition would help with breeding competence back.

i says:

Dealing with Death cults entail prioritizing not be pulled down with them into Death.

But always assume lack of self-preservation to destroy you in the process. If they will cut off their nose to spite their face. It does people well to have good self-preservation to ensure they don’t share death with you

Cloudswrest says:

Recently the CA government nixed a planned coastal Southern CA desalinization plant. I think the stated reason was the brine would damage the ocean environment. There’s basically infinite ocean to dilute the brine before discharging it back into the sea, so their stated reasons are totally bogus.

FrankNorman says:

“There’s basically infinite ocean to dilute the brine before discharging it back into the sea, so their stated reasons are totally bogus.”

Bogus, or just stupid?
Why would they not want a desalination plant? Are they just ideologically against economic development?
Or is it that getting something like that working would require white male brainpower, and therefore make the Shaniqua types feel bad?

jim says:

Just stupid.

If you do anything, such as breathing, it is going to impact the environment. Impacting the environment, obviously, is sinful. They lack the capacity to evaluate whether the impacts are good or bad (all impacts are bad) and lack the intellectual capacity to assess the magnitude of the impact.

FrankNorman says:

I for one see no good reason why one and the same installation could not function both as a desalination plant and as a salt farm.

Why throw either part of away?

Pax Imperialis says:

being in contact with reality is a bad career move

So few people know just how true this is. I know this infantry chad. Prior enlisted, now an officer. Guy is extremely competent and smart. Nearly all his peers like and respect him. He’s well known for talking straight and calling out BS, and he’s not some immovable blockhead either.

He told a female superior, who’s MOS is the furthest one can get from combat, that what she was doing in the field was fucking stupid and would get men killed. She did not take kindly to the reality check. His career is anywhere between on hold for a year and completely fucked.

The emphasis on polite, tactful, gentlemanly officers has created an officer corps that is fearful, quiet, and avoidant of reality that may cause offense. An officer corps that doesn’t have opinions because opinions might cause offense… unless, of course, those opinions are regurgitated official regime lines in which case they are promoted ahead of peers. A war against a “near peer” will be far more bloody than anyone in Washington expects. Although they may not care.

The silver lining to all of this, is that the bulk of the US military will be safe. There are only so many ships that can be sunk, and ship building capacity is ever shrinking.

Hesiod says:

Had a relative, top rank enlisted and counting the days until retirement, recently lament over the disastrous quality of raw material coming into the military. “(F)earful, quiet, and avoidant of reality” is nigh identical to his sentiments towards his COs. He’s awfully isolated these days and is on the verge of cursing the branch that made a man of him decades ago.

Pax Imperialis says:

In the past, the enlisted had much leeway because officers were able, and very happy, to turn a blind eye towards certain behaviors, but peace time military has put everyone under extreme scrutiny. SNCOs work side by side with COs, so your relative is probably having to deal with 100% of the bullshit.

He’s awfully isolated these days

That reminded me of how Lind described the situation. He is a bit outdated, more often than “sexual harassment”, men are being charged with being “offensive”, but he’s primarily spot on for why officers, and the military at large, have become the way it is.

More specifically it is an attempt to destroy the male culture of our armed services. That is the same thing as destroying the services themselves, because any military that does not have an aggressively male culture will not fight. It will come apart at the first touch of real war.Here’s how the game works. First, mix young men and young women in intimate situations (our submarines now have women in their crews). Then, empower the women over the men by allowing them to charge men with “sexual harassment” for any reason or no reason at all (giving a woman an order she does not like is often cause enough). Then, rip the man away from his chain of command, put him under a commissar system (with all the commissars loyal cultural Marxists) and presume him guilty until proven innocent. Faced with this, the kind of men who want to fight–who are a rare and precious resource in any military–first become discipline problems, then get out. Many of them will go on to find other ways to fight. The rest of the men either hate their lives or–what the feminists want–accustom themselves to being ruled by women.

https://www.traditionalright.com/traditionalright-blog/the-view-from-olympus-the-women-problem-again

If a man voices typical male opinions, or anything that goes against the current year leftism, the bureaucracy will attempt to geld him. Not too long ago, a CO went on and on about how we’re “professionals” and not “pirates” or “barbarians” or “savages”, and that’s why we’re better than everyone else. I couldn’t help but think: “hey, didn’t we just get our asses kicked by goat herding savages/barbarians?” “Aren’t we currently getting our asses kicked by pirates?”

I can’t think of much that is more “offensive” than killing the enemy, so it’s really indicative that a military whose vast bureaucracy is dedicated to being inoffensive might just not be focused on killing.

Hesiod says:

I need to revisit Lind’s Victoria to make sure it contains the depiction of a scouring of academia as I remember. The Episcopal bishopess getting some ol’-timey religion left an impression as well.

Pete says:

Kind of a joke how the Officer Evaluation Report form includes categories for “Encourages candor and frankness in subordinates,” also integrity and moral courage.

Yet these days any subordinate that tells his superior officer anything but what she WANTS to hear is toast.

Contaminated NEET says:

>Yet these days any subordinate that tells his superior officer anything but what she WANTS to hear is toast.

Not the military, but I’ve recently gotten a job in the very lowest level of management at a large bureaucratic organization (I know, I don’t deserve to call myself a NEET), and every day I am horrified anew at how much management runs on happy-sounding word salads. Once you get a level or two above the people doing actual work, there is no contact with reality, and everyone literally believes in magic. There is no difference in their minds between saying positive words and achieving good outcomes. God help anyone who utters a negative word, even if it’s important useful information about a real problem, because he is causing the problem through black magic by saying unpleasant words.

It’s totally obvious that “integrity,” “candor,” and “frankness,” are just incantations to these “people,” and have no meaning to them beyond magically summoning good outcomes when chanted.

Anon says:

Hay pax,
Would appreciate a help, i am trying to learn about millitary and war
Do you have books, manuals recommendations?

Humungus says:

The only AFM worth reading…
https://archive.org/details/get-tough-how-to-win-in-hand-to-hand-fighting

Also, todays military is ran by blacks and women. Any self respecting White should get out.

When the time is right, we will form our own.

Varna says:

I’ve been having mixed feeling on the globohomo types lately, after imagining what if today’s crisis had happened when the empire had the military and industrial capacity of 1990 or even 2000. Nightmare.

You’ve got your “rightwing globohomo” (Bush Jr + Sr republicanism, today’s UK tories), and “leftwing globohomo”, which is self-evident.

Rightwing globohomo destroys society through crony “capitalism” and outsourcing everything and promoting a midwit managerial “technocracy” approach.

But! Since it doesn’t dismantle the very anthropological fabric of society so aggressively and in your face, it can still inspire loyalty in its citizens during a real or imagined crisis.

Whereas leftwing globohomo utterly sabotages loyalty from the population strata that can be of any actual use. Plus, it promotes both metaphorical and literal castration of the populace.

Rightwing globohomo helps downgrade the *ability* to fight and function, whereas leftwing globohomo helps dismantle the *will* to fight and function, as well as any basic loyalty from normal men. And, increasingly, the very existence of normal men.

I think I’m starting to get St Anglin’s skepticism of the outcome of a Trump victory, in the sense of a resurgent normal man loyalty to a Bush-style globohomo system.

For this not to happen, Trumpists would probably need to pull off a serious internal revolution and almost instantaneously.

The Cominator says:

Don’t shill for leftist victory here Jeet… accelerationism is a lie.

Varna says:

Yo mama loves acceleration after showing bob and vagene

Contaminated NEET says:

Yep. We’re not going to get control of the system, and we’re not going to fix it; the last decade has demonstrated that it’s far too alert and resilient to any threats from the Right. But sooner or later it will topple on its own, and conservatism’s role is to shore up the evil stinking rickety edifice, which might be worse than doing nothing. It doesn’t matter though; the Left does not have the discipline nor the time-preference to allow even the cuckservatives anywhere near power (even empty symbolic power) ever again, no matter how much better it is for their great project in the long run.

jim says:

> We’re not going to get control of the system, and we’re not going to fix it;

We have been around this merry go round many times before. Leftism always self destructs.

Sometimes it takes everyone and everything with it, but it always self destructs.

> sooner or later it will topple on its own, and conservatism’s role is to shore up the evil stinking rickety edifice,

You are thinking of a limited retreat, like Reagan or Pinochet. I expect something a great deal more dramatic. And possibly enormously more deadly.

DH says:

1980 leftism is unstable for many reasons, one of which is the WP.

The liberation of female sexuality, allowing unrestricted female mate choice, is incompatible with civilization. If your women decide who gets laid and who doesn’t get laid, if sex happens or doesn’t happen on female whim, if it’s up to women to properly allocate access to family and fertility among men, your people will inexorably perish – and quite rapidly. This applies not just to globohomo, but to its competitors as well. It’s a civilization-wide problem.

Need to go all the way to the right to fix the WP, which is the cardinal problem. No restoration of patriarchy and coverture, no restoration of civilization.

Oskar says:

>one of which is the WP.

Excuse my ignorance, but what does WP stand for?

jim says:

Woman Problem

Gedeon says:

I expect the troubles ahead to be giga tier casualties and disproportionately male. But let’s look at university matriculation at 60% female and rising. Women don’t marry down in status. We’re already at a point where the production of sufficiently high status men cannot approach the demand.

Factor in that the cycle has gone to such an extreme as tranny regarded as high virtue and the inversion and reversion to the mean will dramatically overshoot the historical mean of one straight male and one straight wife households.

I think polygamy will become all but essential to continuity of humanity as you also unlock some household efficiencies from multiple mothers under one roof too. Women will require total physical security without the State providing it.

Women are already ok with it if the man is a man.

Calvin says:

I expect that a lot of urban women in particular are literally going to get eaten. Major selection pressure for finding a protector and provider in the days ahead, imo, and polygamy is unlikely to be an option for very many. Way too much incentive for the left out males to just kill the one guy and divvy up the women.

Mayflower Sperg says:

You’re confusing Brigham Young’s polygamy with Warren Jeffs’. The early Mormons didn’t hoard beautiful young women; they collected lonely aging desperadas who might have a few viable eggs left.

Isaiah chapter 4 supports polygamy as an emergency measure to recover from a demographic catastrophe. I’m told the Catholic church allowed polygamy in Paraguay after the war of 1864-1870, one of the worst wipeouts any country has ever suffered.

The Cominator says:

There is a weird instinctual shift with women… I swear I am no better looking recently… women are a LOT nicer, flirty, more outgoing etc. in the past couple months then they’ve been almost since the rave era. I don’t know whether globohomo just tweaked the food additives but its like someone flicked a switch. The whole I don’t want to talk any guy who isn’t an obvious gigachad bitch shield projected from Endor attitude is just gone…

Varna says:

Was in X Western European country last week with wife, we arrive, get registered in hotel, take the elevator, inside a middle-aged American woman literally gives a yelp of delight as we come in and almost blew me there and then, before I spelled out how tired me and my wife are, stubbornly and pointedly misconstruing her gibbering about how we’ll all have fun now, pretending I think she means going out for drinks. Wife said as we stepped out “she almost blew you there and then.”

And yes, the local women and girls did throw appraising and inviting glances on the street the whole time, which was more than offset by gay chaps making out on benches and staring earnestly into each other’s eyes.

Strange atmosphere. More *sleazy* than *life-affirming*. But vibes are definitely vibing.

i says:

Birth control is no longer being used:
https://akinokure.blogspot.com/2022/05/rebirth-of-fertility-cycle-as-girls.html?m=1

Also those periods of higher “libido” seems to function by cycles. Highs and lows.

The Cominator says:

A lot of girls have been off birth control for a while (I know from experience strippers are very rarely are on the pill) but I don’t think that is the cause. I don’t know what it is but they seem broadly friendlier more flirtatious more approachable more interested in dance with me sing karoke etc and maybe go somewhere for some lovin than they have been in decades… its made life a lot nicer lately. I hated the post covid years where it seemed like virtually every girl in the western world was a complete total stuck up bitch. Was it the sloopy blowjob girl going viral… I don’t know but it seemed to start then.

Cloudswrest says:

Voxday links to some tweet referring to some sort of major US investigation of foreign influence over US judges, prosecutors, etc. Seems like the tweeter is too timid to directly mention Soros, but indirectly mentions him via the “Global Society Foundations”.

https://voxday.net/2024/07/29/100-pure-hopium/

/pol/watcher says:

Original source is Anonymous Conservative, I think.

Humungus says:

“Wars happen because some people expect one outcome…”

Modern warfare is always for the same two reasons, money laundering and population reduction.

When this system collapses, and we form tribal societies, there will be an end to this. There will still be war because there is always war. Future wars will be fought between tribes for honor and breeding rights, not to reduce population or for money.

Well said.

Anonymous Fake says:

When you really think about it, though, the most effective institution for money laundering and population reduction is the modern school, not the battlefield. And yet no good parent ever dares to suggest his child become a soldier. Hmm…

Actually, I’m starting to think geopolitics itself is nothing but a psyop. Demographics are imploding everywhere (except Israel, which practices aggressive educational credential forging) and the grift money isn’t going to last forever.

Scratch “tribal societies” and simply replace it with “above replacement fertility societies”. For civilized ice people, these societies are currently based on dropping out of high school and getting a GED and then getting a college degree through correspondence/online courses, and then getting a nice high paying government job that can support a big family, early in life when it matters the most. Working in side jobs and making early life investments the whole time.

skippy says:

Wut? The GED -> online degree -> “high paying government job” pipeline ?

Humungus says:

Greetings again.

What Humungus is trying to say is to avoid association with military or any government work. Dying for todays military is a wasted sacrifice. You’re better than that. Also, people are profiting from these wars. You are not unless you’re in Congress.

After the current system is swept away following financial collapse, we will rise again. When I say we, I mean our racial collective identity.

Hesiod says:

Musk shares video of the Venezuelan National Guard joining anti-Maduro protests:

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1818074081490596277?t=O5L639rH-BV-6T2BnNfwww&s=19

dave says:

This kind of thing tends to be self-fulfilling. Buying X might be musks most important investment, and positions him to be able to control and moderate comms. Starlink means the comms are full-stack and hard to block.

DH says:

The left are now absolutely terrified that AI will be used against them in the upcoming election and broadly on the internet.

Someone is afraid of Thermidor, of the faction affiliated with the Grey Tribe. It’s now starting to sink in that le magic technology will belong to the insufficiently holy, and not to their holier-than-thou selves.

AI is about to become a demon, or a mini-demon initially. They will engineer an AI-related scare, so that they can “regulate” (attempt to destroy) it, so that it won’t be a tool in any rival faction’s box.

If you holiness-spiral far enough on the AI demon, you might end up concluding that the internet should be shut down entirely, and indeed, the awesome and mighty AI demon might be used as the ultimate excuse to destroy all civilization. If artificial intelligence is so scary, perhaps intelligence itself should be abolished, so as to prevent it from ever unleashing the awesome and mighty and evil AI demon on the world.

In the short-term though, they are interested in “equalizing the playing field,” that is, neutralizing a technological advantage they believe to be more in Thermidor’s possession than in their own possession. The left is starting to feel its own incompetence.

S says:

If societies only collapse when the smart fraction is gone, that is a good way to speed up the time table from ‘eventually’ to ‘immediately’ and hand China the future.

Russia and Ukraine are not really relevant anymore. It is clear that the real war is civilization vs. globohomo.

S says:

Russias nuclear missiles make it relevant until the Kremlin feels Russia’s security concerns have been meet. Still a chance we get nuclear armageddon.

[…] Original Article […]

Ryan says:

War that risks significant escalation and consequences is certainly the result of miscalculation on one side (or both).

More limited warfare where you send out men to the softest raiding targets available (excluding civilizational allies) can be useful even if you lose men for no tangible gain, because it keeps armies sharp, maintains a warrior ethos in society, and should raise the average fitness of surviving men.

jim says:

The Global America Empire loves to have pointless long running small scale conflicts, for the reasons suggested by Humungus — the military industrial complex overcharges, and pays off politicians.

Big expensive wars that show every likelihood of escalating into catastrophic wars, are, however, the result of miscalculation by one or both sides.

Ryan says:

The fake and GAE ‘wars’ of the recent decades aren’t good for the nations sending the men, or even for the soldiers despite the very low risks. As you say, it’s a grift to leech money from the taxpayer.

With real low risk wars, there is still a risk if you conquer territory but then have the headache of being responsible for governing it and defending the new borders.

My recommendation is to find a dysfunctional shithole country, march in and kill the evil and incompetent leaders, then put a native in charge who is popular and cares about his people. Take all the treasure from the ‘big man’ and arrange a tribute from the new guy. With sensible capitalist policies there will be increased wealth per capita within a couple of years. If he tries to back out or isn’t to scratch, he knows you’re coming back.

Mike in Boston says:

It seems to me that the Thermidorean faction of Globohomo just executed a bloodless version of that plan in Argentina. The reliably pro-Israel, pro-Ukraine Mikei just loaded all his country’s gold reserves onto British Airways planes and sent them off to I suppose London.

https://english.elpais.com/economy-and-business/2024-07-28/the-mystery-of-argentinas-gold-milei-admits-that-it-was-transferred-abroad-without-specifying-the-quantities-or-destination.html

jim says:

This looks like a payout by Milei for being allowed to win the election.

Theoretically this makes the gold reserves more liquid, since ownership can be re-assigned at the speed of light. But for some considerable time, it has been the case that the central bank that is the theoretical owner of gold on deposit is stiff armed if they ask for the gold back from the central bank where it is on deposit, and for some considerable time, the big finance agents of empire have been acting as if gold on deposit is gold in their personal pockets. They seem more like Hunter Biden and Sam Bankman-Fried than traditional mid twentieth century financiers — crowds of whores, nine day cocaine benders, big payouts to influencers, politicians, judges and senior civil servants.

Back in the day, finance people made a big effort to appear very very respectable, since they wanted you to trust them with their money. These days, the nearest thing they get to respectable is sobering up after a cocaine bender.

skippy says:

GAE;s confused wars, which attempt simultaneously to produce political effects by force and to emasculate both soldiers and nations, illustrates the confusion that underlies the GAE project. There is no genius behind the curtain.

Mister Grumpus says:

“So wait. Hang on. So connected Jews in Kiev, DC and London are press-ganging poor white Christians to other kill poor white Christians somewhere else?”

“(…oy vey it’s another shoah…)”

Mister Grumpus says:

2016 and the Trump campaign was this wild adventurous plunge into revelation and madness. I went a little crazy with it, but it was an excited and happy kind of crazy. “Pepe!”

But then Covid-19 was nearly a psychotic break (or maybe a real one) from reality, as I thought I had known it, when it became obvious that no one in charge was motivated, first and foremost, to protect people from sickness and death, or apparently even needed to be. It was when they instantly and reflexively denounced hydroxychloroquine and Dr. Zelenko’s protocol (PBuH) instead of saying “Well here’s a promising new development, and here’s how the good guy experts in the government are looking into it. Fingers crossed, people!”

Oh yeah and when Trump brought the USS Mercy to New York Harbor and the governor said “Fuck that. Take them to old folks’ homes instead.”

And now Russia-Ukraine has been even worse. It’s as if no one in charge of Kiev has brought up, even between each other, “But guys, what if Putin and the Russians ACTUALLY want to win this, like for real? What if THAT’S what they want? What then?”

Talk about projection, right? I don’t see anyone in Kiev/DC/London acting like winning against Moscow is Priority One, and this blog post here is as good a take as I’ve found anywhere at making sense of why that is.

So what else don’t they care about?

With Covid it was one thing, because I could just refuse the vaxx, and because “Public Health” is always where GAE dumps their Karens and flunkies, so they can’t hurt anything important and instead just nag Mexicans to wash their hands at their job at McDonalds.

But now the military too? Where the nukes are?

[…] But occasionally one must descend into the morass of imbecility to take some fuck-wit to school. So here’s a commenter at another […]

The Cominator says:

Remember keep saying Kamala is Indian as much as possible in the world of identity politics there is nothing worse. She will have the navy running 24/7 doing pickups from the Bombay slums to the east coast.

someDude says:

Hahaha!

Pseudo-chrysostom says:

https://x.com/Cernovich/status/1818431794578170115

SO I SPAT IN THE FACE OF A MERCHANT AND FUCKED HIS FRIEND IN THE ASS AND YOU WANNA KNOW WHAT HAPPENED?
WHAT HAPPENED JEFE
HE OFFERED ME AN EVEN SWEETER DEAL THAN HE DID IN THE FIRST PLACE!
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHA MERCHANTLETS!
WHEN WILL THEY LEARN!

someDude says:

Perhaps there is more to this than what we can see? I’m not an advocate of 3-D chess and all that, but still ……

jim says:

You should not believe everything you read.

Trump does not have a campaign manager. He manages his own campaign. Which is why Cernovich neglected to name this campaign manager who “wants AG Ken Paxton jailed, wanted Trump indicted for J6, and is now purging all of the loyal former Trump staffers from 2016 and 2020”

If what Cernovich said had the slightest grain of truth it it, he would have named this campaign manager. From this strange evasiveness, you should have instantly smelt that you are being lied to by an evil man who hates you and intends you harm.

Always listen to what is not said. You will hear no end of people telling you they need killing.

Nikolai says:

He’s referring to Chris LaCivita, who Cernovich mentioned by name multiple times in previous posts.

He could be needlessly blackpilling but the first Trump administration did have a terrible RINO entryist problem and it is unclear if Trump learned his lesson.

jim says:

Wikipedia describes Chris LaCivita as “a senior adviser to Trump’s campaign”. Which means he has no power — just influence. Influence over whom? And Wikipedia calls him an adviser to the campaign, not an adviser to Trump.

There is a big difference between being “a senior adviser” and “the campaign manager”

> it is unclear if Trump learned his lesson.

As for what Trump has learned: We now have, from the Heritage foundation, compelling evidence that the FBI were meeting with the shooter and presumably setting up the shooting. Therefore, Rinos are in bed with people who tried to kill him. That is likely to make him a little bit suspicious of flatterers.

Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

Cernovich has a history of purple pilling so if someone like him says something take it with a grain of salt.

But the meme setup was irresistible so of course I indulged. And unfortunate tendencies of Trump and other merchant-spirited men in attempting to make deals with those whom no deal should (or even can) be made bears harping on with regularity, Lest Any Forget, including and especially the man himself, and friends around him.

Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

Incidentally, Chris Lacivita and Susie Wiles are both described as ‘Co-Campaign managers’ in various outlets like reuters and wsj (https://ballotpedia.org/Donald_Trump_presidential_campaign_staff,_2024). Wikipedia is less specific and merely list them and several other names (Brian Jack, Jason Miller, Steven Cheung, Karoline Leavitt) as simply ‘key personnel’ without much elaboration or distinction.

Now, the merely written org chart as reported might might well have nothing to do with reality, but there’s also little indication to say it isn’t either. And the invitation of flip-flops and wormtongues to stay ‘inside the house’ is a recurrent problem in any case.

To be fair, there is basically no body *but* flip-flops and wormtongues working inside the beltway to draw personnel from.

To be less fair, the presumption that you can only draw personnel from the existing politico class is normality bias.

jim says:

if “co campaign managers” then not “the” campaign manager.

There is a lot of cope going around that Trump is galaxy big brain playing 3D chess. In actual fact he is a galaxy big brain playing 3D chess with an opponent who is apt to kick over the chess table, pull out a gun, and shoot him. And just did shoot him.

On the one hand, he is a merchant, he wants to make a deal. He suffers from normality bias, he is old and set in his ways. On the other hand, the kick over the chess table and pull a gun stunt only works once.

jim says:

> Now, the merely written org chart as reported might might well have nothing to do with reality, but there’s also little indication to say it isn’t either.

There is no written org chart that shows that Chris Lacivita has any role in the campaign at all.

What we are seeing is the usual horde of swamp critters claiming to have influence. Maybe some of them do have influence. But no one actually knows.

And after the swamp tried to kill him, the influence of swamp critters may well have diminished considerably.

The claim was that Maga loyalists and alt right radicals are being purged. Vance seems like a Maga loyalist. He routinely says the glaringly obvious. Do a search on him. Up comes a hundred hit pieces saying how horrible he is for saying this true thing and that true thing.

Calvin says:

Problem with that is that Trump is really, really old even if he doesn’t always look it, and genuinely has a huge ego. Hard for such people to change their ways at such a late date.

Mister Grumpus says:

I’d appreciate a proper Jimmian Analysis of Cernovich sometime. He says a lot of right things, but there’s something just a little shifty going on too, and I don’t know where to go with that.

DH says:

“Grifters gonna grift” and “namefags gonna namefag” is all you really need to know.

There’s a certain type of alternative media personality who, not unlike mainstream media personalities, is at once in it to promote a worldview and to promote their brand. Vox Day is a prime example. These people can do good things and speak truthful words, but at the end of the day they are looking to sell you stuff, usually stuff that will funnel you to buy even more stuff. Another issue with namefags is that on many topics, such as those often discussed on this blog, they will hover around the issue and sorta-kinda direct you towards wrongthink, without however actually committing any serious wrongthink. Worse still, due to being namefags and lacking a solid ideological foundation, they are prone to attacking the left from the left, e.g. “Democrats are the real racists.” And another trademark is that these self-promoters never pioneer anything; all they ever say, somebody else said much earlier – and usually far more eloquently. Their good stuff is usually plagiarized, while their original stuff is laughable.

When a grifter is there on camera selling you magical powders and merchandise and whatever, he is not fighting for your cause, but for his pocket (charitably, you can say that he’s doing both, in that his viral marketing campaigns might bring about salutary results, although his heart is not in the right place), and is willing to tell you whatever it is you crave hearing in order to make you spend your money on him, like an OnlyFans whore. They see you as a paypig, and calibrate their signaling based on market research.

Handi says:

Since you brought Vox up, right this moment he is racking lines of crushed bluepill laced with Massachusetts feminyl to get the juices flowing for his next Neil Gaiman #Metoo post.

Here’s the accusation he boosted today (Vox didn’t write this but linked it as credible evidence):

Around the time Wallner’s marriage ended in 2017, which she said devastated her emotionally, Gaiman told her ex-husband that there was no more work for him on the property, which had provided the family’s main income. Wallner and her daughters were now dependent on Gaiman for work and housing. While she was in this situation, Wallner, then 55, said that Gaiman began pressuring her for sex.

Wallner said: “There were little hints of, ‘we’re going to need the house’. And I remember saying, let’s talk about it. Let’s figure it out. That’s when he would just come to my studio and make me give him a blowjob”. There is no suggestion of physical force, but rather of coercion in light of her housing and family situation. Wallner said: “And he can say it was consensual. But why would I do that? It was because I was scared of losing my place”, characterising Gaiman’s treatment of her as “sexual abuse.”

Gee, the verbose evasion of chronology in this story makes me really believe women. Every reader here can pick up on what these paragraphs are dancing around. And all the other tales depict the girls bravely realizing they were being raped after weeks to years of repeat encounters… I guess Mr. Gaiman must have had them all locked in his basement like Josef Fritzl!

Of all the wicked and contemptible things to attack, Gaiman is an adulterer, a philanderer, an atheist, a demon worshipper, a Jew, a redditor; and what angle does Vox go after? Female consent and being like totally unsexy to women. It’s unbelievable how effortlessly the programming activates when a man gets a chance to accuse his enemy.

i says:

Identifying as the Wolf in the more sordid original tale of Little Red riding hood where she is instructed to take off her clothes and jump into bed with the wolf before being eaten:
https://voxday.net/2024/07/29/the-media-wont-talk-about-gaiman/

Is quite an indication of evil.

Handi says:

That is indeed quite the indicator of evil, very much so. And yet Vox imputes this into evil as according to feminism rather than evil as according to God.

i says:

We are swimming generally in leftist memes including feminist ones. Even if we fight against it. If we are not careful it seeps in.

Now add to that the normal and healthy instinct of men with daughters to protect them against bad men. It’s understandable most definitely if you have daughters yourself.

i says:

Sigmagame.substack.com

Has more on Gaiman. In addition to relevant comments that are enabled there.
Looks worse and worse.

someDude says:

He seems obsessed with Neil Gaiman

Just let it go, Voxy

Pete says:

Since the Left uses female false accusations to destroy right wingers every day, it is correct and proper to use female false accusations to remove any enemy on the Left whenever possible. The Left made these rules and set the game board. Now they have to live by those rules.

And Vox will always go out of his way to punish sci-fi fantasy writers ever since they kicked him out of their little SFWA club.

jim says:

No. If you play by the enemy’s rules, the enemy wins and you lose. You can never succeed in using the enemy’s rules against the enemy. It is like “Dems are the real racists”

Pete says:

Is Gaiman winning then? To me it seems like his reputation will be tarnished forever due to this.

I would say that the female accusations against Bill Clinton likely tarnished Hillary to the point that she could no longer hold herself out as a champion for downtrodden women.

If the Right uses this weapon too, there are a couple of possible good outcomes:

A) Falsely screaming rape gets so overused that everyone just rolls their eyes and changes the channel as soon as they hear it. This reduces the rape charge as a slam-dunk method for getting any right-winger out of office. Benefit to the Right.

B) The Left finally “gets it” that this isn’t something they should be doing, so they stop. Unlikely, I know. Benefit to the Right.

C) Some lefties get tarnished or forced out of office, i.e. Al Franken or Cuomo. Benefit to the Right.

The weapon is lying on the ground. If the Right doesn’t pick it up, the Left just gets to use it unopposed.

The Cominator says:

The risk of using a weapon of lies is that your own side ends up buying into the lie sincerely… so it should be used VERY selectively. Al Franken (a high ranking leftist of the most loathsome kind) was worth targeting with this… Gaiman is not.

DH says:

Cominator is right. Pointing out the left’s hypocrisy should be aimed at redpilling the normies about the left, not at implementing the left. Otherwise you end up pretty fast with “Democrats are the real racists” and “heterosexuals are the real pedophiles.”

Leftism is a shriek from the blackest, innermost parts of Gehenna. You can’t use that weapon without being corrupted by that weapon and becoming what you hate.

The Cominator says:

There are times when using the weapons of darkness are of benefit, getting rid of Al Franken was worth it but they should be used very seldom as calling on the dark side with any regularity will corrupt its wielder… you stare into the abyss the abyss stares back at you.

i says:

A new post at Substack. Of what give women the “creep vibes” that is the disconnect between what the man tells you and his micro expressions that indicate his other intentions:
https://sigmagame.substack.com/p/creepometer

It’s specifically men who come at women in an effeminate way that set off this alarm. Rather than those who come at a more masculine way.

jim says:

Vox is an idiot.

He is taking what women say about their feelings at face value. Women know this stuff less than anyone around them. They have no insight into their own behavior, and remarkably little awareness of their own behavior.

Cloudswrest says:

Wallner, then 55, said that Gaiman began pressuring her for sex.

Doesn’t every dude hit on 55 year old women? The most common term I hear regarding them is “invisible”.

The Cominator says:

LOL what bullshit. Women love guys who have absolute scoundrel intentions. If women hated guys who wanted to get them pregnant and abandon them the Phillipines Thailand and parts of South America would be more feminist than Iceland by now but in fact after generations of foreign whoremongers leaving local prostitutes (and some just poor slum girls who spread it for higher status foreigners) pregnant not only has there not arisen any spontaneous feminist movement in such places but local women have not in generations shown any inclinations to change their behavior.

jim says:

> Women love guys who have absolute scoundrel intentions

Preselection is you provide proof of being an absolute scoundrel. Preferably a dangerous scoundrel who might well harm her.

Because women never get sexual choice except during times of genocide and social collapse, their sexual instincts, to the extent that they are adaptive at all, are adaptive to an environment of social collapse, where fathers sticking around is improbable.

We are descended almost entirely from women who were absolutely property, because peoples, faiths, nations, Kingdoms, and empires who emancipated their women all disappeared. Thus natural selection has not had much effect on female sexual instincts since the time when we looked very like apes, and to the extent it has had effect, it has had effect when the woman’s native tribe was being exterminated.

The Cominator says:

Why does he keep on with this leftists are the real sexist crap… Democrats are the real racists at least actually does have some basis in reality.

DH says:

Why does he keep on with this leftists are the real sexist crap…

He may be a talented fantasy writer (as Hesiod says below), but he is not an ideologue. Or rather, his ideology is part reactionary, part tradconism, and part trooferism, (and 100% grifterism,) and he mixes and jungles their respective ideas as he sees fit.

Tradcons usually advocate for yesteryear’s leftism over current year leftism, and as Chesterton famously said:

The whole modern world has divided itself into Conservatives and Progressives. The business of Progressives is to go on making mistakes. The business of Conservatives is to prevent mistakes from being corrected. Even when the revolutionist might himself repent of his revolution, the traditionalist is already defending it as part of his tradition. Thus we have two great types — the advanced person who rushes us into ruin, and the retrospective person who admires the ruins. He admires them especially by moonlight, not to say moonshine. Each new blunder of the progressive or prig becomes instantly a legend of immemorial antiquity for the snob. This is called the balance, or mutual check, in our Constitution.

Tradcons often seek to implement leftism more vigorously (or “consistently”) than the leftists themselves.

Seems that these days Vox wakes up on the tradcon side of the bed.

i says:

Can women be witnesses in your opinion?

jim says:

Female witness cannot be treated the same way one treats male witness.

alf says:

He may be a talented fantasy writer (as Hesiod says below), but he is not an ideologue. Or rather, his ideology is part reactionary, part tradconism, and part trooferism, (and 100% grifterism,) and he mixes and jungles their respective ideas as he sees fit.

This seems about as accurate as it gets. Vox is unintentionally funny, a walking meme who is not exactly the kind of meme he thinks he is. He has undeniable talents in certain areas, but truth seeking is not prominent among them.

Fidelis says:

54th clause of the Magna Carta (h.t. covfefeanon)

No man is to be arrested or imprisoned on account of a woman’s appeal for the death of anyone other than her own husband.

The Cominator says:

But why the fuck does he keep doubling down on this leftists are the real sexist crap, not even cuckservatives really even pay lip service to that kind of crap anymore but yet he keeps doubling down on it. At this point given that almost everyone on the right is on board with something like at least rolling women’s rights back before they could scream sexual harassment if we achieve the power to do so… he keeps up this right wing feminism shit. Its got to be hurting his grifting at this point. I guess insanity runs in his family, his father was a rich successful guy too until he retardedly and loudly proclaimed he was a sovereign citizen and didn’t have to pay income taxes anymore (rather than you know quietly setting things up to avoid taxation like most rich people).

He is the Gamma.

alf says:

He is the Gamma.

Yes, one of the funniest ways to look at the Vox Day meme is the realization that he is the word he invented and rails against the most.

The Cominator says:

Re I do remember that Jim did not think much of Florence Nightingale but given that I read what she wrote about other women I wonder why… she seems to agree with the Jimian view on women completely.

And (relating to the topic of women as witnesses) she basically said that women cannot state facts accurately to one another because they don’t actually care about facts, they also don’t actually really give a shit about other people only their own emotions (not yours only their own) and that women were useless for anything but rote or closely supervised work because they won’t learn anything on their own whereas men will. She said she would never have a woman as secretary for her medical department because they didn’t bother to study the army almanacs so they would even know who to write to asking for supplies and stuff to horseguards…

DH says:

But why the fuck does he keep doubling down on this leftists are the real sexist crap

Attacking the left from the left is quite easy, and unprincipled e-celebs just can’t resist the temptation to do so. “If only we make leftists implement their own leftism, that will teach them!” That could make sense from an accelerationist point of view, but Vox is not an accelerationist – he is an idiot.

Cloudswrest says:

When a grifter is there on camera selling you magical powders and merchandise and whatever, he is not fighting for your cause, but for his pocket

Murdoch Murdoch has the absolutely best parody of this ever.

Skip ahead and start at around time 4:35.

https://murdochmurdoch.net/murdoch/the-alt-light-strikes-back/

Hesiod says:

While he is no Chuck Tingle in regard to being muse-gifted, Vox Day’s Selenoth novels and associated stories prove his writing cred. He takes stock fantasy tropes and breathes life into them through character development. Perhaps his work would be unremarkable 50 years ago, but these days it’s an oasis of old-school delight.

Oh yeah, and Lodi is best dwarf.

DH says:

The Thermidorian faction is now considering doing a soft and limited U-turn on trannies. The boxing match at the Paris Olympics between the Italian chick and the Algerian mutant gives them a convenient opportunity to decelerate on trannyism. That has always been the lowest of low hanging fruit, so I’m not surprised at all and not excited at all.

Need stronger sauce, Thermidor.

Anonymous Fake says:

One of the easiest shill tests is to notice [*deleted*]

jim says:

shills are fond of purity tests that they can pass, but real people do not even bother to pass.

Anonymous Fake says:

[*deleted*] Outrage bait about women’s boxing [*deleted*]

jim says:

That it is a killer meme, that it is a meme that works great for us, is because it makes viscerally obvious the fact that women and men are not interchangeable, that treating women and men as equal, equivalent, and interchangeable is evil, hateful, vile, disgusting, malevolent, and perverse.

People’s visceral reaction, their gut reaction, is a reaction to the untruth that men and women were created equal.

Women’s sports should be stuff like skating, gymnastics, and so forth — stuff that women can do better than men, or at least nearly as well as men. And they should not have to compete against men, nor be allowed to compete against men.

Everyone pushing the Olympic meme may be ostensibly saying “no trannies”, they may think they are saying “no trannies”, but what they are really saying is “no equality”. They don’t say the thought crime out loud because it goes without saying.

Women should no more be competing with men in boxing, than men should be competing with women in making babies.

The Cominator says:

https://x.com/EmeraldRobinson
Now I know this is a woman and women are prone to hysteria but I’m inclined to trust her based on past experience of the RNC being feckless and incompetent (at best) at preventing fraud. She is saying the RNC’s anti fraud effort in reality is doing nothing…

The Cominator says:

My solution to this would be to just give Stephen Miller absolute authority over the RNC and campaign staffing, budget everything else. Stephen Miller may be a Jew but he has a perfect record of actually being loyal and by all accounts he likes doing the kind of administrative work that Trump himself cannot stand and he knows what he is doing. Trump’s family members mean well but have no idea what the fuck they are doing.

Adam says:

I mean the fraud is state sponsored so I don’t know how anyone thinks the RNC can stop it. And everyone knows Trump wins a fair election in a landslide. If the RNC thinks voting will determine the results of the election they are clueless.

This will be a coup one way or the other.

Adam says:

Additionally if I was Trump I would be signaling hard and fast that anything other than a Trump victory means holy war and bloodshed. Musk owns twitter so surely that platform can be used to organize violence for the right.

The Cominator says:

Just look at the broad the RNC put in charge of election integrity, looks like she’d be far happier if her days were spent getting sauced in a brothel between seeing clients than doing the boring work of putting together election integrity teams everywhere… GODDAMNIT TRUMP PUT STEPHEN MILLER IN CHARGE OF THIS SHIT!!!

The Cominator says:

“How do you stop fraud”
Lawyers guns and money. Prevent the fake votes from being delivered, intercept them and burn them. Bribe the Shaniquas… prevent your own election observers from being thrown out.

All of this can limit their fake votes to far more traditional %s.

The Cominator says:

https://x.com/ChristinaNortn
This is the RNC’s election integrity director…

jim says:

Do a search for RNC election integrity.

The RNC is doing something right. They have the democrats and the press (but I repeat myself) worried.

The Cominator says:

They are filing lawsuits which is better than what they used to do but I’m inclined to believe they have no election integrity ground game because election integrity ground game would look a lot like a paramilitary organization. Stephen Miller (the Jew who looks a lot like Goebbels) would be a good guy to build something like that… this woman who is a lawyer primarily because daddy would hate her if she did what she really wanted and went to a brothel… she ain’t it.

And Trump should have learned by now that the courts really ain’t gonna help him.

Hesiod says:

Harkening back to your prior VA observations, Bob Good was ousted in the recount against Trump-backed McGuire. Bit of a defenestration of the old guard, that.

Mayflower Sperg says:

Fact: The end of Trump is the end of American support for Israel. The Harris administration is divided on the Israel question, and its ongoing ruination of American industry means that whatever dollars it does send won’t buy much; at some point inflation becomes hyperinflation.

Left-wing Jews are fine with this because they want all superior races, including themselves, wiped out in the name of equality. Right-wing Jews disagree. Perhaps the Mossad will identify the election-stealers, who didn’t do a great job of concealing themselves the last time around, and start eliminating them in especially gruesome ways.

Andrew Anglin would rather the USA turn into Haiti than be saved by any kind of Jew. Does being ruled by Mossad death squads count as a win?

jim says:

> The end of Trump is the end of American support for Israel. The Harris administration is divided on the Israel question, and its ongoing ruination of American industry means that whatever dollars it does send won’t buy much; at some point inflation becomes hyperinflation.

> Left-wing Jews are fine with this because they want all superior races, including themselves, wiped out in the name of equality. Right-wing Jews disagree.

You are attributing rational objectives to demon worshippers. As you said, left wing Jews want all higher races wiped out including themselves. But a whole lot of right wing Jews want all higher races wiped out except themselves.

Obviously Maga Jews want a strong America to protect Israel — but not all right wing Jews are Maga Jews. Plenty of right wing Jewish demon worship.

The Cominator says:

The Richard Perle types who are somewhat right wing but also very evil are rare outside beltway neocon think tanks. Left wing jews are deludedly evil like leftists (though somewhat easier to discuss their insane belief system than non jew leftists without getting shut down immediately, jews usually genuinely enjoy arguing though converting them is still almost impossible that takes suffering at the hands of their fellow leftists) but right wing jews (a small minority) tend to be okay.

jim says:

> right wing jews (a small minority) tend to be okay.

Not all of them: https://x.com/Megatron_ron/status/1817998449389801502

Adam says:

If victory is our goal, if every option is available to us, they all just have to go. At the very least so our sons and grandsons do not have to learn these lessons.

The Cominator says:

My view is that in victory ALL leftists (which will include the vast majority of jews) have to go but jews are subjected to a byzantine system and minorities generally subject to a millet system. TKD is a copout of total leftist death.

Cloudswrest says:

It’s hilarious watching the intense wokeness on display at the Paris Olympics.

First, the IOC is defending the tranny boxers. They’re proffering all these bullshit reasons “why they are women” rather than actual chromosomal evidence which would settle the issue. They’re claiming the Russian evidence is disqualified because it’s “not published”. Reading between the lines, it’s probably not published to protect the individuals privacy.

In Olympic boxing competitions, an athlete’s gender is determined by his or her passport, the IOC statement said. All the women participating in the boxing tournament have passports that indicate they are female, an IOC spokesperson said Tuesday.

Then I read, it is a “Vegan Olympics” and the athletes are very unhappy with this and are having meat and eggs shipped in from external sources rather than rely on the catered food.

DH says:

Naturally male sports are an imitation of battles and fights and a demonstration of physical power and dominance, while naturally female sports (assuming there is such a thing) are more about the beautiful performance – making an attractive show for the audience. Oy vey goyim, it’s objectification! Lesbians can fume all they want about the Penis Olympics, but I say that every sport in which trannies have a natural advantage over real women is a sport in which real women shouldn’t participate in the first place. That’s a good litmus test: if a tranny can do it better than women, then women shouldn’t be doing it, because it’s a male endeavor. Making the Olympics sexually egalitarian — having all competitions for both men and women — is itself pozzed. Normal people aren’t interested in watching women fight or mock-fight each other, just as normal people aren’t interested in watching men dancing and spinning like faggots. Most sports should be male-only, while a few can be female-only, with no overlap between the two.

The liberal solution is “Let’s have intersex competitions for those not clearly male or female.” Insanity intensifies. No, let’s not do that. Instead, let’s stop pretending like we give a flying f**k about a yawn-inducing boring-to-death I’m-falling-asleep niche (female sports in which women fight like men) that only dykes and feminists and simp cucks care about or pretend to care about. My life will be just as pleasant as it currently is, if not more so, if I never ever have to hear about “female sports” ever again in my entire life. Forcing normal people to pretend that they care about female soccer, female boxing, female judo, etc., is itself a satanic encroachment on good taste and a waste of everyone’s time.

The Cominator says:

Eh as much as I like to dab on women I wouldn’t deny them every sport but ballet or something. Of the top 3 chicks I’ve known in my life two of them played ice hockey at some point.. girls with tomboyish hobbies aren’t always bad chicks. Now should women stay away from boxing and mma (even if it sometimes entertaining because chick boxers more then men had a bad tendency to go into slugfest rather than trying to dodge) sure.

DH says:

I didn’t say ban women from sports (though that’s not the worst idea), but if the Olympics are to pay respect to Western Civilization and its original traditions — and really, pay respect to GNON and to His aesthetics — rather than defile their name and memory, then most female sports in the Olympics gotta go.

jim says:

Obviously figure skating and gymnastics should be female, boxing, shotput, and weight lifting should be male — just about every sport should be male, chicks generally do not do sports, it is artificial. Tennis maybe should have male events and female events, but most sports should be exclusively male or exclusively female.

Cloudswrest says:

Just like men don’t race against horses, women shouldn’t compete with men. There are a variety of non-contact sports where it is pleasant to watch women. I would include both swimming and sprinting. Here is Michelle Jenneke in Barcelona doing her warmup dance.

https://youtu.be/LdexkdpkIgk?si=TFMtH3eqy7AX52OR

alf says:

Nothing wrong with cute girl being cute, but once she starts running I lose interest.

Banning women doing sports in which men would kick their asses seems fine, but not doing that works too. It’s the forced subsidies that need stopping the most.

Cloudswrest says:

but once she starts running I lose interest.

That’s probably ’cause you wouldn’t be able to catch her.

alf says:

haha got me

Mike in Boston says:

chicks generally do not do sports, it is artificial.

Maybe women’s participation in many sports is on average more artificial than mens’, but I am sure it depends on the sport (girls’ football? Give me a break!) and the individual woman.

Teenage female relative of mine genuinely loves tennis and running, and until she took them up she was getting plump. She is no doubt much healthier now with a more athletic body shape.

Much of our modern post-agrarian world is artificial in some sense. To whatever extent girls’ sports may be artificial, at least they are a demonstrably beneficial artifice.

Hesiod says:

Multiple sources are reporting Muslim gangs in England are now attacking native protestors while state minions stand back, much like the attacks in France during the recent “election” and in the US during the summer of St. George of the Fentanyl. This, of course, comes after the MSM ran pictures of the black murderer when he was 11 years old instead of now being almost 18, and politicians galore harrumphed on cue over the awfulness of native whites’ violent intolerance.

Waiting now for more details. The MSM spin should be breathtaking in its inversion.

Contaminated NEET says:

The protests by native Britons are heartening, but I have to get a blackpill on record:

The response is going to be a bigger, badder, more totalitarian version of what they did to the J6ers. Thousands of people are are going to imprisoned for for years for petty, rarely-enforced public order offenses.

The system cannot tolerate this, and the protestors are too normalcy-biased (and probably too weak and too few) to actually overthrow it, so the only possible outcome is brutal repression.

British Chen Sheng: What’s the penalty for racist rioting?

British Wu Guang: Ten years in the slammer and permanent unemployability.

British Chen Sheng: Oh. O-OK. 🙁

Hesiod says:

Globohomo rentboy Starmer promises the beatings will continue until morale improves:

https://x.com/PolitlcsUK/status/1820122739040047552

Contaminated NEET says:

In the short- to medium- term, Starmer is holding all the cards. This unrest is going to provoke a wave of oppression like nothing anyone’s seen in decades. People will be jailed for mild anti-immigration comments, pro-active online censorship is going to go into overdrive, debanking by algorithm is a real possibility, and immigration is going to go through the roof.

In the long-term, it’s hard to say. This could be the beginning of something great, or it could be the last gasp of the White British peoples.

DH says:

One advantage Americans have over Europeans, especially Britons, is that they’re armed. If tomorrow (or after Kamala steals the election) Satan whispers in Obongo’s elephantine ear that the time is ripe for Planet of the Apes, his genocidal forces will be met with armed resistance – red blooded white Christian Americans are no suckers, and they won’t go like lambs to the slaughter. Americans, at least, will shoot back.

Contaminated NEET says:

Red blooded White Christian Americans are the biggest suckers on the planet, and they will definitely go like lambs to the slaughter, provided the slaughter is nice and gradual, and it’s supported and downplayed by the mass media. Hell, half of them will be on the side of their own slaughterers, hypnotized by tales of “domestic terrorists” and “White supreeeemists.” Now, the Left seems to be forcing things along too quickly, which may or may not provoke a response they can’t manage. 150 years of uninterrupted victories have made them sloppy, impatient, and arrogant. We’ll see what happens.

All that said, I agree that guns are good, and the armed populace makes things trickier for the enemy in America than in Britain.

jim says:

> Red blooded White Christian Americans are the biggest suckers on the planet, and they will definitely go like lambs to the slaughter, provided the slaughter is nice and gradual, and it’s supported and downplayed by the mass media.

No one is reading the mass media any more.

Red Blooded White Christian Americans are not going to go to war without a leader, but if summoned by a leader, they will come. God has appointed Trump King. If, as is probable, the election gets stolen again, even more crudely and clumsily than 2020 and 2022, will Trump perform the job that God has given him?

If he does, he will win.

jim says:

As JD Vance said a week or two ago, Britain will very shortly be the first radical Islamist country with nuclear weapons.

Diversity plus proximity equals war. Starmer is cracking down on those who would keep him alive, in favor of those who are going to kill him.

What we are seeing is JD Vance’s prediction coming true. When Muslims are a certain proportion of the population, civil war ensues. Britain has now reached that proportion. If Christians are a majority, they can quell that war, but only be means that credibly threaten genocide, and frequently make a good start on genocide. The restoration of peace in Britain requires one side or the other side to decisively win the war, and to dramatically demonstrate that restarting it is a really bad idea. One sect must conquer and crush the other.

someDude says:

Vance seems to have forgotten Pakistan. Ofcourse the Chinese control those, but i doubt Vance was thinking along those lines

skippy says:

Vance’s statement struck me as remarkably dumb. Political Islam has next to no influence in UK politics or in the UK’s institutions. A Conservative Party (just about) led by a Hindu Indian with deep family connections to the Indian state opposes a governing Labour Party run by a Zionist with a Jewish wife who is raising his children as Jewish. While often used as a rag to wave in front of the British people, Muslims have no stake whatsoever in the government, they are still a small minority (a minority even of brown people) and are nowhere close to overpowering the state.

Vance’s comment sounded like something you would read on a blog fifteen or twenty years ago. The idea that we are locked in a conflict between European culture or “white people” (Islam is an egalitarian trans-racial political ideology similar in many respects to international communism) and Islam has since vanished in favor of the clearer perception that European culture and white people are opposed by their own governments with Muslims serving as both a distraction fake-enemy and enforcement agents of that government.

The protests and riots in Britain were sparked by the killing of children by a mystery brown/black person who, as far as I can tell, has no religious affiliation, and no ancestral connection to the British Empire or the English-speaking world (unlike most British muslims). The protesters initially targeted a Mosque, but then realized their error, and instead burned down a station of the Diversity Police. It now appears to be the state trying to redirect them from GAE enforcement offices back onto mosques, activating state-organized “muslim” militias to try to force them to do so.

Fidelis says:

I read it as meat for the ziocons. We need to unite and restore order so that we can eventually take on Iran. Easy emtpy rhetoric that hypes up the midwit base mad at being swarmed in their own countries, and signals to his plausible power base that he’s aligned and very pro semitic.

To reinforce your point re: muslims have no real power, I remember clearly the muslims losing out when protesting the public schools teaching anal sex to 9 year olds.

jim says:

> I remember clearly the muslims losing out when protesting the public schools teaching anal sex to 9 year olds.

What Muslims can do is kill whites and Christians and destroy Christian places of worship and get a slap on the wrist. This is because they are being used by the left as shock troops against whites and Christians, because faggots and suchlike are rather useless.

However, as the left ramps up the violence against whites and Christians, they need to import more Muslims, who make notoriously unpredictable and unreliable allies. As the number of Muslims increases, they are likely to start murdering people they are not supposed to be murdering.

The left wants to kill everyone and destroy everything, so will inevitably bring in more Muslims than they can control.

skippy says:

Organized subcontinental muslim communities are likely to have exactly the same outlook on random black knife maniacs as right wing white people. While muslims are a potential long term problem, the conflict between them today is fake. What is new in this situation is that the rioters attacked a police station, a fact that the state does not want to get out (they retroactively declared that it was first a mosque, and then a citizens information office). The IRA and the UVF are now joining hands against immigration, and the state would rather not have the EDL and the local Imam join hands against (new) immigration.

The Cominator says:

Faggots are capable of violence, the early Nazi party was literally mostly faggots. The problem is the modern lefts kind of faggots are useless the old left and the Nazis had more like BAP kind of faggots (and I mean before he supposedly cured himself of the perversion by forcing himself to frequently make use of prostitutes which he could afford easily due to the massive success of his book).

Oscar C. says:

So predictable. It all harks back to the Counter-Jihad movement, Gates of Vienna blog, Mark Steyn, Robert Spencer types. After 9/11 they had tremendous echo in the Anglosphere.

“National-conservatives” like Vance are probably only going to have that type of reference, which dovetails nicely with their pro-Israel stance.

The thing is, in the current year of 2024 such discourse is simply passé. The high water mark of Islamic terrorism seems to be over and you are left with “diversity” pure and simple as the problem. which will be increasingly difficult to mask.

There are is no Islam in South Africa is it?

Anon says:

My reading similer to you , i think this whole thing is psyop
They are trying to have a homegrown” azov ” to use in wwiii.

Contaminated NEET says:

That’s an interesting theory, and it makes a certain amount of sense, but it’s too risky and too complicated. It’s a weird triple bank shot that might deliver a modest payoff if it succeeds but risks everything if it gets out of hand.

The Cominator says:

Doubtful the average White Brit has been more abused by the regime in England than the average American and has for a long time as the government has universally criminalized fighting back against criminals (and the laws against fighting back against criminals is actually enforced). So I imagine the average Brit of the soccer hooligan/chav class is at this point very very very angry. The problem is they have struck Leviathan in anger but there is no plan in place to kill Leviathan and if they don’t kill Leviathan they will end up like the January 6ers.

The rioters need to refuse to disburse under any circumstances, to organize a central authority, the central authority needs to declare itself the legitimate government, and then they need to storm whitehall.

The Cominator says:

And I agree there is almost no chance that they do this… but that is the basic steps that killing Leviathan would require.

Hesiod says:

Met police commissioner breaks the microphone of reporter who asks if he will end the two-tier policing:

https://x.com/DaveAtherton20/status/1820416690590511465

The Cominator says:

The problem with the British riots is they are striking Leviathan but not to kill…

As Americans on the far right are aware (and especially since January 6th where some people thought there was a chance to kill Leviathan) the problem is that if you strike Leviathan you must kill it, or you are going to hang. Leftist riots are not striking Leviathan they are Leviathan hitting itself so it will swim left faster. If the British rioters want to succeed they need to very quickly develop a great level of organization, they must proclaim an alternative government, and then they must take London and Whitehall and get rid of the people at the head of the current government and hope the military either doesn’t want to do shit or wants to defect.

Those are the essential steps to killing Leviathan (it still may not work because maybe the people aronund Biden send in US troops in support of the current government) and unless you are prepared to do them you should not strike Leviathan.

skippy says:

“The problem with the British riots is they are striking Leviathan but not to kill…”

They still think it is/ought to be on their side but hitting the police station is an indication they are starting to realize the truth. Govt attacking them with Muslim mobs is an attempt to push them back into the frame of British vs Muslims with government as umpire.

https://static.independent.co.uk/2024/08/02/23/Screenshot-2024-08-02-at-22.57.05.jpg

Hesiod says:

The paynims’ mosques are proving to be quite effective armories. Saw footage of a Paki pig directing his people to rally there for weapons and organization.

If my native US state is my fatherland, England is my grandfatherland. English lit and history was my focus in college, and I cherish its centuries of culture as my own. Therefore, I earnestly pray for my remote cousins that these hard times, which will get more brutal, forge them into the hard men necessary to retake their patrimony. In the name of God and St. Michael and St. George, get thee a true king, English!

Contaminated NEET says:

Yes. The GAE is now going to grind the British Right into a fine paste. They have no choice. Replacement migration is far too big, and far too explosive an issue, in far too many countries, to let the lid off the pot even the slightest bit. The plus side is that they might just fail to crack down hard enough, and if they do, this is the beginning of the end for them. Realistically, though, this will mean the end of legal political opposition in the UK, and maybe throughout the Western world.

Calvin says:

Their tools for an actual crackdown are fat, dumpy women and faggots with no guns.

jim says:

Resistance to the crackdown is likely to succeed. But organised violence beats unorganised violence. Time for a King.

Calvin says:

Very much agreed. The only force likely to actually fight the nationalists in a prolonged capacity are the muslims, but it won’t be for Starmer. Or, at least, not for long.

Hesiod says:

Don’t forget the midgets, errr, I mean wee folk:

https://x.com/stillgray/status/1820206333284508114

jim says:

> The GAE is now going to grind the British Right into a fine paste. They have no choice.

Indeed they have no choice. Because the shape of hot fast white genocide now takes shape. But success may well prove difficult. No nation with a gay parade has won a war.

Starmer has realised the police will not suffice, and has called for an army, and implicitly called for martial law and Ukrainian style terror. Today in the Ukraine, terror is hitting its limits.

Anon says:

“has called for an army“
I watched his speech, I was amazed that he has the balls and the testosterone level to actually say these words.

The thing is Britain doesn’t have fighting men, this “army” if every materialized will be bunch of cat ladies. Most likely they either (like France in the Olympic ) import fighting men from other part of GAE or paramilitary from the “asian gangs” . I am betting on the first.

Gedeon says:

Starmer musters the cuck militia.

Jehu says:

I don’t think the US has the capacity currently to bail out the UK. Can’t in Afghanistan, can’t win the Ukraine, and I rather doubt they can win in the UK.

It remains to be seen what’s going to happen in the UK. It’s kind of a Special Olympics really. The UK probably can’t put more than a division or two on the ground at best but the rioters don’t have much either. But hey, I root for some of my coethnics against GAE.

The Cominator says:

BTW how mindbroken do you think the average western guy is after decades of feminism and economic contraction… I’m curious because I actually posted a good news thread on 4chan (anons you can leave your houses again its incredible how nice women are suddenly being again for whatever reason… and I made it clear no they aren’t generally trying to scam you into covering their bar tab) and its just all pure negativity. I’m a bit demoralized myself (and a bit is understating it) but god a lot of people just have to be so much worse to take the news negatively that you can actually meet nice women if you go out in public again the way it was in the before time suddenly…

DH says:

Just as doomer blackpilling is unwarranted, so is premature whitepilling. You are noticing a return of 1990s or early 2000s vibes, or maybe you are imagining that this is what you notice. But the challenge is to restore a long-lost social technology that by the 1990s had been totally obliterated in the West. In other words: If you don’t do White Sharia, then your second best option is to practice actual Sharia.

The future belongs to those who show up. If you solve the WP, and not solve any other problem, there is still a chance you will survive. But if you solve all the problems, except for the WP, you will inevitably perish. You need to be willing and able to be “not nice” to women (and to have the backing of state, church, and mannerbund in doing so); patriarchy and coverture are no luxuries, but preconditions for a restoration. And it’s true for Russia and China as much as it’s true for the Occident.

If you see a clear path towards White Sharia, you have justification to whitepill. If you don’t see such a path, then you will drown and nobody will save you.

The Cominator says:

Yeah I know this isn’t a real Jimian victory on the woman question or close to it but it seems like the 3rd wave feminist female chimpout just kind of mostly disappeared like that and it was right when the Hawk Tuah meme (not saying its because of that but I’d mark it right at that time) got popular.

jim says:

Being married, not well placed to observe this change, if the change is indeed in the world rather than in yourself.

It could be that being marinated in red pill memes, and gaining experience due to your romantic relationship with a whore, you just improved with chicks, improvement led to confidence, confidence led to further improvement.

Also when you are young, it is hard to interact with people across a large IQ gap. With time and practice, you get better at it.

It could also be that the change is indeed in the world, rather than yourself. That women were unpleasant when they were deemed inherently superior to men, but now that they are deemed inherently inferior to sodomites, they have improved. The spectacle of a female athlete getting the stuffing beaten out of her by a man in drag is a corrective to all those movies a where a chick takes out a dozen mooks with one flying kick.

The Cominator says:

No absolutely external change… I am neither better looking nor more socially adept and certainly not more confident as the past few years have been rather depressing. Started before the boxing thing… as a sperg and mere high midwit my ability to interact with normies long ago plateaud.. I certainly cannot do your method as larping as some sort of dangerous criminal type you need to be socially adept for that in the best of cases in Florida nightlife (where BTW almost everyone is mostly pretty polite for the same reason even niggers and bikers) I’d be dead or in jail almost immediately. I swear to God and Gnon it’s like a switch got flipped and women are way nicer and more sociable…

The benefit of whores with normie women is mainly in inner game as you always know when you get that 3 month dry spell crazy feeling if it comes to that you can fuck something, hence you lose fear of rejection. But in the 2015 to right up until now time (worse after 2020) that was no help as unless you had instant marks of high status or criminality women basically didn’t want to talk to you at all and were kind of not out so much in public spaces after the covid bullshit at all. Something has changed…

Adam says:

You should try find a girl from a poor country that only speaks a little English and is insecure. Should not be hard given your location. The fact that you are middle class and white will be all the status you need. The communication barrier will work well in your favor. Your analytical skills will engage instead of your own communication insecurities. You will not be nervous about what you say when you know she can’t understand most of it anyway.

Adam says:

I will say although I have not had good luck with 30 something girls in the last few years, the girls I match with on tinder and hinge have been younger and prettier over the last few months. Early to mid 20s is totally doable if your in your mid 40s. Not easy but persistence pays and you only have to find one.

Varna says:

When bachelor 3 years ago, had luck only with 30+ women. In the sense of instant chemistry and let’s go bang an hour later.

To the younger ones was pretty much invisible, then became visible again to schoolgirl teenagers, but of course steered clear.

The 15 year olds ogled me and gave me aggressively pointed looks, the 30+ ogled me and initiated stuff, the ones in between looked right through me. I wasn’t there.

Neurotoxin says:

I’ve only checked out 4chan rarely, but my impression is that they’re not mean/median/mode people.

Neurotoxin says:

mean-median-mode

Dave says:

Trump claims the Mandate of Heaven: https://x.com/bennyjohnson/status/1819862235017097227

jim says:

God saved Trump and appointed him King. The election should merely be a coronation. Should the democrats attempt to interfere with that coronation by expelling republican scrutineers again and magically materializing a hundred million votes at three in the morning, he should deal with that in a Kingly manner.

Mister Grumpus says:

Off Topic. They should sell MP3’s of Chads alpha-banging Stacys. Not so much for entertainment as for education. I’ve been put through a couple recent IRL such renditions thanks to an unowned neighbor chick, and it’s changed my understanding of life itself, I positively shit you not. I’ve never done that, imagined that, wanted that or even fantasized that.

One thing it teaches, and fast, is that it is simply dumb, impractical and unreasonable to EVER expect women to NOT choose that when on offer, no matter WHAT words are used to “explain” long-term consequences or whatthefuckever. No. If it’s on offer, and there’s no punishment, then they’re taking General Butt Naked into their guts in a red hot second. It won’t even be a “decision”. It’ll be like a dog smelling bacon.

You want civilization? OK, then you gotta physically control these hoes from like 10-11 on. Before, I didn’t disagree, but I understood it as a logical conclusion from the past. But now it’s as blatantly obvious to me as a fart in an elevator.

Neurotoxin says:

Curious as to whether you observed that guy or you were that guy. (If you don’t want to say, no problem.)

The Cominator says:

To add to NT this sounds a bit cryptic what happened with unowned neighbor Stacy. If this is recent it would also play into my observations of women being A LOT more friendly and sociable (and therefore bangable) very recently than they have been in the sort of post metoo era when for a long time most women were just auto rejecting almost every guy (not even friend zone or orbiter treatment just like quick auto rejection or I can’t hear you treatment).

Mister Grumpus says:

Unowned neighbor chick is not getting pounded to 11 by me, but by some other guy, who seems to come over most Sunday afternoons, do that, and then disappear for another week. Presumably after raking most of the cash out of her purse and eating all her Captain Crunch. Again.

But have some Skittles, bitch.

Mine ears have heard wonders beyond your imagination.

The Cominator says:

So unowned woman calls up guy occasionally when she is horny and hormonally craving a real fucking from a man (as opposed to being content with a toy)… many such cases. What is extraordinary about this one…

Mister Grumpus says:

“Instinctively you give to me /
The love that I need. /
I cherish the moments with you. /
Respectfully I say to thee /
I’m aware that you’re cheating. /
But no one makes me feel like you do.”

–Diana Ross

And there you have it. I’m amazed by how honest art was, like just yesterday.

DH says:

Wait till you discover that songs about candies are not, in fact, about literal candies.

DH says:

Moreover, most songs about dancing are not, in fact, about literal dancing.

The whole thing is about sex. The whole thing.

Then again, usually the writers are men, not women, so you can’t rely on popular songs to accurately gauge the nature of female sexuality.

Neurotoxin says:

Presumably after raking most of the cash out of her purse and eating all her Captain Crunch. Again.

Lol.

anonymous mouse says:

I seriously cannot believe you actually posted this… I didn’t expect there to be a Mister Grumpus cuck fantasy arc

Mister Grumpus says:

It’s the end of the world so fuck it.

Despite all head knowledge and much to my detriment, reflexive and unconscious Chad Denialism runs strong in me, evidently, clanging around basement floors I still barely know exist. Knowing the truth and experiencing the truth are very different things.

Aidan says:

Needless to say, if you are the guy giving girls the demonic railing, your opinions of women are not going to be much higher

Mister Grumpus says:

Off Topic again. I’m genuinely puzzled why my Twitter and YouTube feeds aren’t chock full of people discussing, advocating and predicting Bitcoin as the “real” BRICS and Petro currency.

We’ve got gold mumbo-jumbo, and weird “flavored Yuan” mumbo-jumbo, and BRICS and Shanghai meetings to discuss to agree to discuss to plan for agreements to negotiate for strategies, etc.

Give me a fucking break. We’re on the brink of nuclear war and have a rape gang in every McDonalds, but Bitcoin as the next international trade currency, THAT’S too naughty and risqe for edgy namefags to rap with each other about on a livestream? I don’t get it.

jim says:
Anon says:

Nice ,
This may sound dump but what the Rho in Rhocoin mean? I know the coin but Rho part.
Also what is the programming language you are implementing it with.

jim says:

C++ and C.

rho has the convenience that it looks vaguely like a currency symbol, exists in unicode, and pretty much everyone’s installed fonts can render it.

Some people sold me on rust-tokio, and the entire crypto world is going rust, and a lot of good crypto libraries are only available in rust, but nghttp3 and lsquic are C api.

Fidelis says:

Is it QUIC or HTTP/3 or something else that comes with those libraries? If it’s just QUIC, rust has an implementation https://github.com/quinn-rs/quinn

Also, can’t you just call C/C++ from rust or is this exceptional for some reason?

jim says:

When you call C from rust, rust uses a C api.

When you call C++ from rust, the C++ must present a C api.

When you call rust from C, or C++ rust must present a C api. Which is hard.

The C api, the C link library format, is the universal language of everything. Rust is weak on creating link libraries, which leads to unreasonably long compile times on big rust projects.

The trouble with rust Tokio is that Rust async is infamously hard. The borrow checker goes mad trying figure lifetimes in async.

Async in C++ can in theory be done like async in node.js, which is famously easy. I am, however, unaware of any asynch runtime for C++ which does usefully do it like node.js. Boost asynch is infamously broken.

What everyone does in C++ is roll their own asynch runtime — which is what the example code in those libraries does.

simplyconnected says:

I had a need for something similar. I borrowed the assembly for the context switch and wrote a stackful coroutine/fibers single-header scheduler. Works like a charm (context switch around 14cycles). Not so good for keeping millions of fibers though (c++ fibers are better for that but are otherwise very limited).

jim says:

How do you recommend handling many thousands of connections, each connection its own stateful conversation?

simplyconnected says:

If you use stackful coroutines/fibers, you can allocate on the order of say 1Mb per fiber (linux uses something in that order of magnitude iirc). You can put all your state on the stack if you want.

You spawn a fiber by passing a callback to the function you want executed, and the fibers bounce between each other by calling “yield”. I borrowed the context switch assembly from minicoro. When the last fiber is done (its callback function returns), execution falls-through to the point where it was spawned.

If you want to pass some data to the initial callback that spawns the fiber, it gets a bit awkward, but it can be done.
My implementation is 200 lines (I don’t mind sharing). I’m just using it to hide prefetch latencies. Context switch is so fast that it pays off.

The issue is stackless fibers (like c++ fibers) are too limited (iirc you can keep only the state local to one function), but fast and lightweight (similar context switch cost). Stackful waste a lot of memory if you need large stacks.
If you know your worst-case stack need is not too great (you’re not doing too much recursion), it’s not so bad.
I’m no expert though, this is just my experience with it.

jim says:

Please send your code to the bitmessage address on this web page, as a patch file of a patch relative to a commit that does not contain the directory necessary to build and test the example. (A directory creation patch.)

simplyconnected says:

Hopefully I’m not over-complicating it.
Stackless coroutines (e.g. c++ native coroutines) will not allow you to leave the coroutine function, whereas stackful ones can recurse or call other functions at will. I think the data that each connection keeps shouldn’t be an issue in either case (you can keep it on the heap, or on the stack).

simplyconnected says:

What I have is short because it’s just for my use case. I’ll try to make it a bit simpler and general, though you would likely have to customize the scheduler for your use case anyway (say to awaken a fiber only when data becomes available). Note also: extremely non-portable (linux x86-64). Minicoro handles ARM and other OSs.

I can send you something standalone (single-header). It fits in a short block of text when bzip2+base64-encoded (putting it in a comment would be simpler for me, you can then delete the comment as to not clutter up the place if you prefer).

simplyconnected says:

This will print the source file to stdout:

echo ‘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’|base64 -d|bzcat

jim says:

base64: invalid input

bzcat: Compressed file ends unexpectedly;
perhaps it is corrupted? *Possible* reason follows.
bzcat: Inappropriate ioctl for device
Input file = (stdin), output file = (stdout)

It is possible that the compressed file(s) have become corrupted.
You can use the -tvv option to test integrity of such files.

You can use the `bzip2recover’ program to attempt to recover
data from undamaged sections of corrupted files.

jim says:

Well, posting it as a comment runs into length limits. Give me an ssh public key, and I will give you a login on rho.la

simplyconnected says:

A test program is included at the end.
To have it play nice with valgrind you have to compile with ‘-DVALGRIND’ so you can run it with valgrind and it will register the new stacks with valgrind.
Hopefully the source is more or less clear. The ‘fiber::scheduler_t’ class is the only one the user should see. It has four important member functions (spawn-fiber and yield, either from top-level, or from another fiber). If you have problems or doubts, let me know.

simplyconnected says:

I tried using pybitmessage but wasn’t able to get all the required libraries installed. Apologies.

jim says:

Yes, the install is rather thoroughly broken, and due to bitrot, has become more broken.

Just post it as a comment — since it will be an unreasonably long comment, I will edit it down. Or if you do not want it public to everyone, post it as a comment under a different, but similar, fake email.

simplyconnected says:

I can just post it in pieces in the AI thread for example as to not clutter up the most recent one.

Anonymous says:

simplyconnected’s comment with the base64 block was failing because the single quotes were replaced with smart quotes. When they’re changed back to single quotes in the terminal, the command works.

Mister Grumpus says:

Thank you and attaboy, for real, but here I’m asking a much smaller question.

I presume that for transactions of $50,000 or more, Bitcoin, as it is right now is already just fine.

So for Russian and Iranian oil, or Bangkadeshi T-shirts, or North Korean artillery shells, or Brazilian soybeans, that stuff could switch to Bitcoin tomorrow without any fancy new technology.

Now here we muse that this isn’t (officially) happening, yet, because every country has its own banking/trade/finance swamp ministry full of unaccountable stuffed suit assholes who need their skim. OK fine. That I understand.

But what I don’t understand is why crypto aficionados, commentators and loudmouths aren’t talking about this, about why they expect Bitcoin to be the next default trading currency, and therefore reserve currency. Why isn’t that a subject out there? Why isn’t the “petrobitcoin” a topic of public argument? Is it because all namefag shills have to be afraid of being heard mentioning the subject? As simple as that?

Neurotoxin says:

They are talking about this stuff, seems to me, at least since El Salvador made Bitcoin one of its legal tender currencies.

Gedeon says:

The financial system is a social network. The Eurodollar system touches everything. The dollar is the largest social network.

https://mfjudge.substack.com/p/haho-15-coercion-and-networks

jim says:

It is unofficially happening. Starting from the bottom up, because the guy routinely doing fifty thousand dollar transactions has a room full of high paid lawyers and “consultants” to grease the skids. So we are starting with the third world peasant trying to order some termite poison from China. And the software for him really sucks.

And even if you are doing million dollar transactions, it is a problem, because if you want to buy a few million dollars worth of Russian oil and gas, you would like the payment to not be traceable.

Fidelis says:

But what I don’t understand is why crypto aficionados, commentators and loudmouths aren’t talking about this, about why they expect Bitcoin to be the next default trading currency, and therefore reserve currency.

Bitcoiners are largely ideological libertarians to a fault. They don’t want to take this specific win, because to them it is “just more statist bulls**t.” So you hear about it but not much. The other crypto tribes are of course not set to be national reserve assets anytime soon, so naturally have little interest‐‐ of course this is uselessly spiteful, as a bitcoin reserve and subsequent valuation spike in the short and medium term means more speculator cash flowing into their assets.

skippy says:

Russia, China, Iran are not that based. Their governments want to maintain the fiat currency system because it gives them control the same way it gives the US government (more) control. But even in their official ideologies, Russia and China particularly completely endorse the post-war order, of UNO, Bretton-Woods, IMF, and so on. They have no ideological objection to this, and in fact, if you read the Russian statements carefully (and many are depressingly earnest) they are complaining that the system doesn’t work well enough, doesn’t work as intended, or doesn’t follow its own rules.

They do not want to replace fiat currencies, and the post-war order, with techno-libertarian super-hard currency. They want to do direct fiat exchanges between their second tier fiat currencies through a GAE-style international clearing house controlled by themselves.

Likely to fail in the long run, but in the short run, due to 2022 sanctions blunder already exists.

The Cominator says:

Shit someone better archive Tik’s videos (we may not agree with him on everything but he is absolutely fantastic on proving things like yes the reasons the Nazis fucked is because they were socialists) because he is going to get j6ed…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FvA9odna5dw

The Cominator says:

RE vote fraud and Kamala… I feel good about Shapiro NOT being the VP. I’m assumming he has some control over the fraud apparatus in PA (maybe he doesn’t) IF he does given that I’m sure the Jew wants to be president himself in 2028 he has every incentive to make sure there is a fair election in PA that Kamala will lose.

Mister Grumpus says:

We’ll have to disagree there. I was actually hoping for two goys against the sinister alcoholic cock sucking deep state bindi-lattess and her sidekick the fag-mouthed shiesty Jew. Just too perfect to be real.

Neurotoxin says:

So Jim links to his Rhocoin page and I head up to the basic domain and find the Collected Quotations page. It contains this:

“The children who know how to think for themselves spoil the harmony of the collective society that is coming, where everyone would be interdependent.” 1899

“Independent self-reliant people would be a counterproductive anachronism in the collective society of the future where people will be defined by their associations.” 1896

John Dewey, educational philosopher, proponent of modern public schools.

Every time I think, “OK, I now have a handle on how evil the Left is…”

The Cominator says:

This is why if we get the chance we can’t stop short of total annihilation. If we shirk from it our posterity will curse us for failing to finally destroy this evil cult when we had the chance. Half measures fail…

Contaminated NEET says:

You can’t annihilate Leftism any more than you can annihilate anger, or fear, or war, or murder. It will be be with us as long as we exist, because it’s part of our nature. And as bad as it most definitely is, it springs from useful traits, emotions, and strategies, which we must never give away, because Gnon gave them to us for good reason.

The Cominator says:

You can’t annihilate envy but the blue cult is a more specific set of beliefs and it can indeed be eradicated.

Contaminated NEET says:

OK, I can get behind that. This particular manifestation can and should be cut out entirely like the cancer that it is.

DH says:

Leftism stems from a malfunction of the brain, or a specific set of malfunctions. Notice how some groups, ceteris paribus, are more seriously afflicted than other groups, e.g. Ashkenazi Jews – there has to be a biological, probably genetic basis in there.

If you repeatedly eradicate leftist bloodlines, you will over time select against leftism in the gene pool. You might still have the occasional de novo mutant, but the problem wouldn’t be so widespread.

The Cominator says:

Jeets, almost all Jeets are leftists.

DH says:

Explain Total Bindi Death to me, if you will.

yewotm8 says:

This is not true anymore. The left no longer caters to them, they are not dysfunctional enough. They vote cuckservative now.

Contaminated NEET says:

I know “right-wing” Indians here in the US. They have a weird insecure resentment-filled superiority/inferiority complex toward Whites. Get them comfortable and they’ll brag about how much smarter, richer, harder-working, and more moral they are than us, but they’re painfully aware of what a shithole most of India is, and they’ll talk down other races in a strange attempt to get our approval. They’re part of the Rising Tide of Color and they know it, and when the chips are down they will always and everywhere side with the foreign hordes against Whites. They only group they truly and comfortably respect is the Jews.

DH says:

Indians respect Jews, but give them a truth serum, and you’ll discover that it’s more that they envy Jews, because they see Jews as whites’ favorite minority, and they want themselves to be whites’ favorite minority. Indians can tell who the matador is and who the cape is, and they vie for the role of cape. Indians resent Chinese-Americans for the very same reason, a competition for the role of whites’ favorite minority, in which Indians are the sole participant, since the other groups have quite a different agenda.

Contaminated NEET says:

>they see Jews as whites’ favorite minority,

It’s deeper than that. Brahmins respect the Jews because the Jews play the same priestly game they do, but they’re better at it. They don’t see Jews as Whites’ favorite minority, but rather as the highest caste of Whites.

DH says:

Yes, but rival priesthoods tend to compete for supremacy, and Brahmins would love to be incorporated back into the white race and become the highest caste of whites – they seem perplexed that it hasn’t happened already. Heh.

someDude says:

@DH I can second your view. This is the view of the futurist as well. Indians in the west want the approval of whites. They see that conservative whites are quiet and reserved about their views. They see progressive whites quite open and in your face about their opinions. They then figure that to get white approval, they have to become progressive, which is what happens.

Regarding Jews, it’s more an enemy of an enemy thing. Indians assume all Jews are zionists. You gentlemen are doubtless well aware of our antipathy to Abrahamism 3.0

jim says:

> a malfunction of the brain

Not a malfunction. Leftism is the priestly equivalent of mobile banditry. A leftist priesthood is to a priesthood what a robber baron is to a baron. Mobile banditry is, under some circumstances, a perfectly sound strategy, though under most common circumstances a very wicked strategy, but when the sovereign is falling down on his job, a necessary and justified one.

Leftism tends to arise when the existing official priesthood is weak, cynical, and decadent. And to successfully put leftism down, you need an official priesthood that is strong, sincere, and virtuous.

The Cominator says:

Can you explain in more detail…

Also whatever you call general leftism I think can be distinguished from very specific blue cult leftism. Blue cult leftism requires brain defects to actually believe in and it should be eradicated…

jim says:

Leftism starts with envy and covetousness. Covetousness is that someone wants to knock over the apple cart to grab some apples. Envy is he just want to knock over the apple cart because he does not have one.

We should be able to eradicate envy, but no hope of eradicating covetousness.

And, given that there are people who want to knock over the applecart, easier and safer to knock it over as part of a gang. So, priests: Someone comes up with a clever rationalization why knocking over the applecart is wise, virtuous, and beneficial. Then, from priests, to a priesthood. Leftism gives rise to the left as an organised entity with a hierarchy and an official, though frequently changing, belief system.

The only cure is that the proprietors of apple carts subscribe to state religion that takes a firm hand with heretics and apostates.

The Cominator says:

“We should be able to eradicate envy, but no hope of eradicating covetousness.”

Yes. Everyone covets sometimes, envy otoh to me is a completely alien emotion…

Contaminated NEET says:

You can’t eradicate either, nor should you. Even envy (by your definition) has its place and its uses. It’s a universal human emotion for a reason.

jim says:

> It’s a universal human emotion

It is not that universal. I don’t experience envy, and find it incomprehensible, alien, and absurd when I observe it in others.

Envy is like male homosexuality. Most males just are not sexually attracted to other males, nor to any female whose curves have not set in, or which have sagged away. Societies can, and frequently do, attain zero male homosexuality. Should similarly be able to attain zero envy.

Contaminated NEET says:

Well, that’s probably because you’re a winner. I’m a guy who voluntary chose “Contaminated NEET” as my handle. Try losing consistently for years on end and see if you still don’t experience envy.

The Cominator says:

I’ve had a few years, I want revenge, I want leftist exterminated, and I covet… but no envy.

Calvin says:

It is not that universal. I don’t experience envy, and find it incomprehensible, alien, and absurd when I observe it in others.

Would not require universal proscriptions if it were not universal. Easier to not feel it when you have your psychological needs fairly well met though. Rarely happens to healthy fathers or high-t young men.

jim says:

> Would not require universal proscriptions if it were not universal.

Gay obviously is not universal and demonstrably can be completely eliminated. Still requires a universal proscription.

Calvin says:

Gay obviously is not universal and demonstrably can be completely eliminated.

There have been secret homos in societies where that got the death penalty and the moment the repression eases up, there are always some to come out of the woodwork. Never been a case where a state has said it’s okay to be gay now and found there were no takers. They don’t spring out of the aether.

The desire to tear down someone for having more than you is far more universal to the human condition than that.

jim says:

> There have been secret homos in societies where that got the death penalty and the moment the repression eases up, there are always some to come out of the woodwork

I don’t think so. https://www.metafilter.com/122692/Where-sex-is-work-sex-may-just-work-differently-and-the-WEIRDest-people-in-the-world

> The desire to tear down someone for having more than you is far more universal to the human condition than that

Not seeing it. I don’t experience it, I don’t think most people experience it.

While covetousness is rational evil, envy, like homosexuality, is self destructive evil, hence preventable by a healthy environment.

If we repress covetousness, adultery, and so on and so forth thoroughly, repression of homosexuality and envy will be redundant and unnecessary.

The reason the Ada do not know what homosexuality or masturbation is, is not that homosexuality is suppressed, but that straight marital sex is not only permitted, but absolutely mandatory. You hit puberty, you get assigned a spouse and ordered to get on with it.

Neurotoxin says:

>Cominator

I’m a nice guy, myself. If I had a choice I’d give all leftists the ability to never show up on infra-red cameras. I wouldn’t even wait for them to ask for this feature; I’d just give it to them.

DH says:

Modern schools are entirely a Progressive project. The wickedness of the whole thing has been undeniable for well over a century, and it persists not despite its wickedness, but because of it. And anyone still denying it in 2024 — when most pedagogues resemble demons and certainly behave like ones — is a shill promoting normalcy bias. Schools are leftism factories, whore factories, and gay factories – by design. And most of all, they are priest factories and priestliness factories, and a cornerstone of rule-by-priests. No need for rational economic explanations such as “muh capitalists”; the impulse behind modern schooling is deeply religious, and it’s not a Godly religion motivating it, and never has been.

Pax Imperialis says:

So after much hoo-ha over having a used up whore on stage at the Republican National Convention, the DNC decided to go further.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EyrkT-qnfH8

It’s all so tiresome how they twerk all over the hollowed and burnt out ruins of civilization.

Anon says:

I am kinda bummed they didn’t bring 2nd diversity vp , they brought another white mascot like Biden. It show they have some sense.

Cloudswrest says:

Wow, Musk just boosted a tweet showing disparate criminal punishment in Britain of white people.

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1820805335700873619

Cloudswrest says:
DH says:

It’s time for Musk to decide if he is all in, or not all in.

Given how the left is about to collapse civilization, and civilization is a rather important and valuable thing in Musk’s view, there’s a decent chance he goes all in.

Adam says:

Certainly this cannot be the first he has heard such a thing. Hopefully this is a good sign for us as far as things going on behind the scene.

DH says:

Musk just boosted a tweet

I suggest he also boosts his security, the demonic globalist faction won’t go out without a bang.

Contaminated NEET says:

I hope he knows he’s playing with fire and takes appropriate precautions, but I’m not even sure what “appropriate precautions” would be or if he has the means to deploy them.

alf says:

Elon’s feed lately has been a barrage of basedness. Very whitepilling.

dave says:

Simplicius reprints reports from Ukraine front confirming effective tactics in the drone era. Looks like Russians figured it out. end of big arrow maneuver warfare.

“the new Russian advancement tactic is such small scale combat teams, that Ukrainian FPVs literally can’t even find any targets to hit. Russia has eschewed major armor pushes in some areas, and just advances with 4-7 infantry at a time, which quickly lodge themselves into the forest tracts and hedgerows, disappearing from view.”

Aidan says:

Very good news

Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

The Walz pick was probably a sop for the thermidoreans.

>see we aren’t going full niggercommunism (yet) you don’t have to cross the river to the bad orange man the empire is in good hands trust

jim says:

Trump attack ads on Waltz read like a plea to the Thermidoreans: “Waltz is full nigger communism — if you let the steal go through, you are going to be sacrificed to demons and your body eaten.”

Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

Considering that the Saint Fentanyl operation was conducted under his watch, he’s probably been a loyal inner party bagman for a while now.

Hesiod says:

Video of Waltz’s top advisor:

https://files.catbox.moe/y6uvsr.mp4?_=1

Twisted and evil

Anon says:

And that the distressing part , they have some brain that still function . I hoped
Full diversity ticket so the mask off . But they had the sense to rain there impulse
Which does not bode well for trump. Trump need to hammer the 2020 riots.

Aidan says:

Walz is a true blue ideological NC candidate. You can tell that his predilection is for raping little boys. The intention is not to extend a hand to the thermidoreans; would not have picked the man who sat in the cuck chair and watched the BLM riots while diddling his chode if so. It seems like they are trying to get as many legitimate votes as possible this time, possibly because the fraud apparatus is slipping out of their hands.

DH says:

It seems like they are trying to get as many legitimate votes as possible this time, possibly because the fraud apparatus is slipping out of their hands.

Yep. They would rather potentially lose a few Jewish donors to Thermidor (by not picking Shapiro) than risk a lower turnout among the Turd World constituency, so probably ran up some obstacles in the fraud plan. However, the fake polls keep on coming, so they’re still going to maintain that contingency available.

Hesiod says:

Searching this morning for any concrete info on Walz’s alleged master’s thesis on Holocaust education and the results so far have been a lot of fresh squid ink telling but not showing about it. Perhaps the most damning statement garnered from that is his students being supposedly amazed he predicted the Rwandan genocide. Given his life-long associations and loyalties, I certainly bet he did.

Mister Grumpus says:

“…Walz’s alleged master’s thesis on Holocaust education…”

because of fucking course

Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

In many ways it’s a reprisal of the Biden pick with Obama. A yt biobackhole picked as a running mate as ‘whitewash’ over everything else being pulled behind the wagon, which seems to be the messaging. ‘Look at what a normal mainstream guy this is’. (Eg, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ADRvyhCqOk).

Of course, nothing about it is normal, and hasn’t been for 200 years hence, but it gives their targets that all-important fig leaf excuse for rationalizing themselves into thinking it’s normal. (‘Targets’ in this case of course being both the whites they intend to destroy first, and the so-described ‘white helots’ administering the empire that they depend on for the destroying the first and intend to destroy second.)

notglowing says:

https://x.com/TNOQuoProQuid/status/1821335518829043839

Of course Kissinger, the snake, immediately tells people about what happened.
Though, looking back, it is an interesting story and doesn’t make Nixon look worse in my eyes.
Every man has his limits. And Nixon was done dirty.

Jamesthe1st says:

What do you all make of Nick Fuentes? He’s been thorwing a hissy fit ever since Trump picked Vance and has also been echoing the dem propaganda against Vance. Just echoing the dem propaganda like that is highly suspect.

alf says:

Wasn’t the consensus that Fuentes was controlled opposition long ago? Not that I’ve ever watched him for more than a minute…

jim says:

Yes, always been obvious that he was in the enemy’s pocket.

Pax Imperialis says:

Even if he weren’t, he’s pretty gay and not in the way one can politely ignore it.

Varna says:

Cliche gays and narcs had that vibe in the 1970s and 1980s.

“I look like a TV gay narc from 1982” is a weird brand to go for, but the times are weird.

The Cominator says:

He’s a fed and a homosexual and always has been, how did you not spot him?

jim says:

The entire FBI apparatus around him glows as well. Enemy operatives promote each other, and progressives promote their controlled opponents. Progressive pronounces: “This extreme ultra right wing nazi nazi conservative has some connection with Nick Fuentes, oh the horror, the horror” immediately tells you this leftist is trying promote to the alt right some rino who was in on the plot to murder Trump.

The intent being that when the time comes, the Rino announces he lost the election fair and square. Search for references to Nick Fuentes — it is always obvious enemies talking about him. No real people pay much attention. Nick Fuentes is like flat earth — an enemy operation so blatant that it gets very little traction.

The Cominator says:

Almost universally one should not trust homosexuals, Milo and BAP had some extraordinary qualities (and BAP at least seems to have sincerely cured himself of the perversion through um going to female whores a lot and classical conditioning, Milo did the monasticism thing to attempt this which just doesn’t work and has been useless to counterproductive since and in one such phase he was hanging out with Nick) which granted them some arms length consideration. BAP is still useful arguably more so since he seems to have cured himself of the perversion.

DH says:

Richard Spencer from AliExpress.

Nikolai says:

I used to watch his streams back when his college student fans were terrorizing Charlie Kirk on his nationwide campus tour around 2019.

It seems to me he was a genuine rightist up until 2021. Personal theory is that the feds got to him since he was at the capitol on J6 and now they’ve given him orders to demoralize and cause endless infighting on the right.

The Cominator says:

I don’t understand why anyone would ever watch him for more than a minute… let’s say he wasn’t a fed he was a weird manlet homosexual and not too bright. I also don’t understand why the Charlie kirk hate either, Charlie Kirk wishes for a return to 1980s leftism (as every man who watches any sort of 80s camp or teen movie for more than 5 minutes will) but he doesn’t punch right. He’s been loyal…

The Cominator says:
jim says:

If one, then all. Looks like this time around, we will see only ordinary and usual fraud.

Ex says:

How can you be so confident this will be generalized, rather than triggering counter-ops?

The Cominator says:

Yeah I agree, but otoh if Josh Shapiro in PA has any control over the vote fraud er I mean ballot harvesting effort in Pennsylvania very likely he uses it to sabotage Kamala. If he wants to be President he needs her to lose.

jim says:

Fraud happens because the FBI, the department of justice, and the judiciary, just as the attempted assassination happened because the FBI, the department of justice, and the judiciary.

The Cominator says:

Does the FBI do it correctly or does the FBI merely protect Democrat fraudsters and allow them to be paid off while suppressing anyone on the other side who would either do the same sort of things, make payoffs to flip the democrat fraudsters, or try to stop the Democratic fraudsters.

The Cominator says:

Er I mean does the FBI do it directly…

jim says:

Hard to know and hard to define.

The difference between a “criminal informant”, and a direct FBI officer has been fading away. CI is just a hat an FBI officer puts on to do something criminal.

It is like the Soros ngos, where someone is an ngo officer, and simultaneously a state department officer.

Neurotoxin says:

I don’t, definitely do NOT, want Kamala Harris to be “elected” President. That said…

If she is declared the winner, I hope that right at that moment, someone has a video camera trained on Hillary Clinton.

MuskFan says:

Kamel toe is going to sweep every battleground state exactly like how Biden did in 2020 with mass uncontested fraud. The usual pattern is the right gets the shit kicked out of it for years and years and years before they finally wake up and start fighting fire with fire (which ultimately means fighting fraud with even more fraud in this case).

Happened in Argentina in the Dirty War and happened in Rome with the populists (it was decades after the Gracchus brothers were murdered before the Populares were able to get any sort of electoral wins).

jim says:

You are being stupid. This is all state sponsored fraud. If someone commits unauthorized fraud, he would go to jail for life plus four hundred years. It is not a bunch of dumb blacks committing fraud. It is not the Democrats committing fraud. It is the judiciary, the department of justice, and the FBI running a bunch of dumb blacks at the behest of the uniparty.

Neurotoxin says:

Related (via Founding Questions):

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/virginia-mandates-paper-ballots-tracking-and-proof-resideny-2024-election

I’ve been assuming fraud would put the Dem candidate into the White House, as the most likely scenario. But this looks surprisingly like actually getting serious about fighting it.

Are they just messing with us? (E.g., adversarial court ruling in 3, 2, 1 …) Even if this is swatted down by some asshole judge, it’s a strange move for the Regime to even put this sort of thing into the Overton window.

DH says:

Dugin goes full Dugin in a new article which every reactionary worth his salt should read. Key passages:

First and foremost, we must consistently and fundamentally reject the universality of Western norms — in economics, politics, education, technology, culture, art, information, ethics, and so on. “Decoupling” means not just a deterioration or even a severance of relations. It goes much deeper. It involves revisiting the basic civilizational attitudes formed in Russia long before the 20th century, in which the West was taken as a model, and its historical stages of development as an unquestionable template for all other peoples and civilizations, including our country. To some extent, the last two centuries of Romanov rule, the Soviet period (with a critique of capitalism), and especially the era of liberal reforms from the early 1990s to February 2022 were all Western-centric. For the last few centuries, Russia has been engaged in “coupling,” not questioning the universality of the Western path of development. Yes, the communists believed that capitalism needed to be overcome, but only after it was built, based on the “objective necessity” of changing formations. Even the prospects of world revolution were seen by Trotsky and Lenin as a process of “coupling,” “internationalism,” a linking with the West, albeit for the purpose of forming a single global proletariat and escalating its struggle. Under Stalin, the Soviet Union essentially became a separate state-civilization, but only by deviating from Marxist orthodoxy and relying on its own strengths and the unique creative genius of its people.

When the energy and practices of Stalinism were exhausted, the Soviet Union once again moved towards the West along the logic of “coupling” and predictably fell apart. The liberal reforms of the 1990s became a new leap towards “coupling,” hence the Atlanticism and pro-Western stance of the elites of that era. Even under Putin in the early stage, Russia tried to maintain “coupling” at all costs, until it came into direct contradiction with Putin’s even firmer resolve to strengthen the state’s sovereignty (which would have been practically impossible under continued globalization — both in theory and in practice).

Today, Russia is consciously, firmly, and irreversibly entering into “decoupling.” Now it is clear why we agreed to use this term initially in its English version. “Coupling” is integration with the West, recognizing its structures, values, and technologies as universal models, and the systemic dependence on it, as well as striving to be part of it, to catch up with it, to follow it — at worst, it involves replacing what the West has chosen to exclude us from. “Decoupling,” on the contrary, means rejecting all these principles, relying not only on our own strengths but also on our own values, our own identity, our own history, our own spirit. Of course, we have yet to fully grasp the depth of this, as Westernization in Russia, the history of our “coupling,” has lasted for several centuries. With varying success, the penetration of the West into our society has been continuous and intrusive. The West has long been not only outside but also inside us. Therefore, “decoupling” will be very difficult. It includes complex operations to “expel all Western influences from society.” Moreover, the depth of such cleansing is much more serious than even the criticism of the bourgeois system during the Soviet era. At that time, it was about two competing lines of development within a single (by default Western!) civilization — capitalist and socialist, but the second — socialist — model was also built on the criteria of Western society’s development, on Western teachings and theories, on Western methods of calculation and assessment, on the Western scale of development levels, and so on. Liberals and communists are united in the understanding that there can be only one civilization, and they also agree that this is Western civilization — its cycles, its formations, its phases of development.

A century before, Russian Slavophiles went much further and called for a systemic revision, a rejection of Westernization, and a turn to their own Russian roots. In essence, this was the start of our “decoupling.” It is unfortunate that this trend, which was quite popular in Russia in the 19th and early 20th centuries, did not prevail. Now we simply must complete what the Slavophiles, followed by the Russian Eurasianists, started. We need to overcome the West’s claim to universality, globalism, and uniqueness.

One might consider that “decoupling” has been imposed on us by the West itself. But, more likely, we can see the secret workings of Providence in this. The example of the opening of the Olympic Games in Paris illustrates this clearly. The West banned Russia from participating in the Olympics. But instead of punishment, against the backdrop of that aesthetically monstrous parade of perverts and the pitiful scrambling of swimmers in waters filled with filth and toxic waste in the Seine, all this turned into something quite the opposite — an operation to save Russia from disgrace and humiliation. The images of “decoupling” in sports vividly illustrate its healing nature. By cutting us off from it, the West essentially facilitates our recovery, our resurrection. Not allowed into the center of degeneration and shameless sin, Russia finds itself at a distance, at a remove. We recognize this today as Providence. So it is.

https://archive.is/MWyvm

Massive whitepill if Russia follows through with that vision.

jim says:

He wants to go back to Russia early seventeen hundreds

I want to go back to England, sixteen sixty. England sixteen sixty led to much bigger success than Russia seventeen hundreds.

Mayflower Sperg says:

If Putin would just abolish feminism and restore Christian marriage, I will die happy and my descendants will solve the other problems and make Russia great again.

If not, I will live alone into the 2050s and see what a country with millions of aging cat ladies and no fighting-age men looks like.

Basil says:

Why read a man who wrote unironically about the sacredness of black skin and whose only daughter “studied” on Algerian dicks in Paris?

DH says:

Why do glowniggers have Dugin Derangement Syndrome, then?

I don’t agree with his third-worldist sentiments and his rosy view of cooperation with Mohammedanism, but if the Kremlin takes his stuff seriously (as we are told by the usual suspects), so should the rest of the world. And reactionaries should especially pay attention to his conclusion:

Thus, we began with the assertion that the word “decoupling” will be key for the coming decades. This is evident, but few yet realize how deep this process is and what intellectual, philosophical, political, organizational, social, and cultural efforts it will require from all humanity — our societies, countries, and peoples. As we detach from the Global West, we face the need to restore, revive, and reaffirm our own values, traditions, cultures, principles, beliefs, customs, and foundations. So far, we are only taking the first steps in this direction.

I mentioned the other day the absolute necessity of solving the WP, outside the West as well as inside – do you not identify here the seeds of restoring patriarchy (and monarchy)? It’s very relevant to NRx.

skippy says:

I’ve gone on the record saying I think Basil is a shill before. Nonetheless, this is a fair comment (delivered in remarkably exact American idiom).

Dugin is a guy who rose to prominence proposing to Hapa’ize Russia by mixing the Slavs with Central Asians, which would’ve seemed like far leftism at the time. Such have the times changed, no longer sounds that bad, and he’s since shifted to a wacky Afro-Futurism which is also heavily promoted by RT.com.

Dugin is the Kremlin desperately trying to continue the Soviet policies of multiculturalism, multireligion, multiethnicism, Russia with-but-not-for Russians. But, having got fired for saying it was unacceptable for Ukraine to literally burn Russian activists to death, was still less foolish than the actual Kremlin

DH says:

That’s fair. But as Pepe the frog (Shadilay) would say, “Control the memes, control the planet.” Who controls the Kremlin’s memeplex? CIA and the Ukrainians believe that Dugin and the Eurasians exert outsized influence in this regard.

Mister Grumpus says:

Me last month: “JD Vance? That boy gay or funny or something. That millennial fatface, man, I don’t know. Way too much fatface going on out here in general, come to think of it.”

But now me today: “Tim Walz? Dude what? That mouth!”

Like what is that? Is that cuckmouth? Fagmouth? It’s some kind of funny, that’s for sure. Like that Tim Caine guy from 2016. DC’s got nobody with a regular mouth anymore. Just kinda eeeehhhhh these guys. (One thing about Mike Pence, at least he worked out, looked decent in a suit and his mouth wasn’t funny.)

In the Bible days they called it being possessed by a demon, and why not really? You got a better explanation? Really?

–Retard Tier Physiognomist

DH says:

Like what is that? Is that cuckmouth? Fagmouth? It’s some kind of funny, that’s for sure. Like that Tim Caine guy from 2016. DC’s got nobody with a regular mouth anymore. Just kinda eeeehhhhh these guys.

It’s an “everything goes” kind of mouth. He is obviously an extreme pervert who can be into literally anything – dead women, little boys, trannies, zoophilia, scat (can easily see him eating dung off the floor with that mouth), he clearly has little to no disgust reflex; maybe he is possessed by sexual demons, like Ted Bundy and the other infamous serial killers. I mean, to be fair, politicians often give off that kind of vibe one way or another, so he isn’t that unique.

But yeah, that’s not a legit human.

The Cominator says:

To paraphrase the late great comedian Gilbert Gottfried I kinda think that TIM WALZ RAPED AND KILLED A BOY IN 1990.

Hesiod says:

Getting John Wayne Gacy vibes off him.

anonymous mouse says:

He’s literally normal.

If you have to reach this hard it means it’s over.

The Cominator says:

Shill test this faggot now.

jim says:

Anonymous mouse is not a shill, he is an opponent. A shill says “hail fellow white male heterosexual Christian. I hate negroes because they are magical, women because they are wonderful, gays because they are so stylish, Jews because they are so clever. The earth is flat, and Trade Centre tower seven fell straight down to its foundations like a demolition.”

Anonymous mouse tells us that Tim Walz is normal. In truth, there is no concrete evidence that he is not normal, though his enthusiasm for mutilating children’s sexual organs is a hint, he just somehow gives of the uncanny valley not quite human feeling. There is a definite odour of uncanny perversion, but no solid evidence.

But because of the odour of weird, it would be profitable for Vance to hammer on the transitioning children issue.

Walz does not ping on gaydar, but he pings on something weird.

jim says:

Tim Walz is an obvious commie pervert. He sets off normal people’s radar as somehow not exactly human, as a demon wearing a skin suit. He is in uncanny valley.

Kamala and Tim Walz are the insane out of sight left. If you are far left and in politics, you sacrifice children to Satan, have sex with their bodies, and drink their blood. This leaves a spiritual mark that is visible to normies.

These are people who are openly proud of burning America down during the saint Fentanyl celebration, and intend to resume burning America down. This makes Thermidor a little nervous.

He also applied and enforced a sanctuary law in Minessota that makes it possible “rescue”, which is to say abduct, children to Minnesota to have their dicks or boobs cut off. Whoever is rescuing the child from oppressive heternormativity gets the child plus immunity from heterosexist out of state custody orders.

Mister Grumpus says:

Oh and while I’m here, let me just state that from here on out, any and all of these harebrained and doomed “Ukrainian” military adventures, like this suicidal capture the flag run at that Russian Kursk nuclear power station, are obviously just Globo-Shlomo ploys to buy a few more weeks of Powerpoint slides, and to kill off any remaining Ukes who could otherwise turn around and Heinlien Freikorps their asses out of Kiev, if not hunt them down and grease them in the Miami Whole Foods parking lot.

jim says:

The Ukrainian attack towards the Kursk nuclear power plant has been a huge success for the Ukrainians, in that they grabbed a lot of turf, killed a lot of Russians, and destroyed a whole lot of stuff.

But it obviously will not achieve what is sought — forcing Russia to end the war on terms that enable the Ukraine to join Nato so that the war can be resumed at some later date when the mysterious deficiency in Nato weapons technology and arms production has been remedied.

The objective is to force Russia to agree to a “frozen conflict” — so that the conflict can be resumed at a more favorable time.

Pax Imperialis says:

While some evidence points towards a “frozen conflict” objective, such as Ukrainian presidential advisor Mikhail Podolyak, that is only one point of evidence. More likely this is yet another attempt at escalation. Much like hitting Russian nuclear detection radar, it serves almost zero tactical or strategic purpose except as an existential provocation on behalf of other hostile regimes.

If the objective was a “frozen conflict”, then Ukraine should be attempting to drag this out as long as possible and as painful as possible. That is the formula that had worked for all previous “cease fire” agreements, and evidence points to it working again had they agreed to any of the other numerous Russian attempts at diplomacy.

Instead Ukraine has committed to extremely risky and costly big arrow offensives. Just as their southern offensive resulted in massive irreplaceable losses, this new offensive got most of the attacking units mostly killed in a matter of days. Moreover, there has been no indication they would have used potential success as a means for negotiation. For every Podolvak, there’s a thousand Azov type idiots who delusionally think they’d been able to drive all the way to Moscow.

The likely objective is to tempt Russia into doing something drastic which could then be used by NATO to justify direct intervention. Unfortunately for them, Putin is unlikely to do anything drastic, and even if, NATO is likely to blink after making much noise.

The Cominator says:

It reminds me more of the battle of the bulge, looks and feels good for them for a little bit but its likely to get their forces destroyed even faster.

skippy says:

They attacked the part of Russia that was least likely to be garrisoned but correspondingly has the least military value to Russia. They then went on the BBC stating that Russia’s nuclear red lines are fake.

Looks like a play to start a nuclear war. Not one that Putin is likely to bite, but if he doesn’t get these guys out of Russian territory quickly it will cause him to haemorrhage legitimacy until he does. Shades of Poland kicking the Danzig Germans until Hitler bit.

skippy says:

Russia appears to be desperate to agree to a frozen conflict, in which Ukraine gives them three Oblasts, “promises” not to join NATO, but then joins NATO anyway. The Russians appear to be openly stating that Ukraine can join the EU, which has a mutual defence pact anyway.

Looks like Putin is desperately trying to cuck out in a way likely to destroy Russia in the long term, but his counterparties refuse and demand megadeath instead.

Pax Imperialis says:

It’s likely not politically viable for Ukraine to accept the loss of those Oblasts, even if they are full of ethnic Russians.

/pol/watcher says:

Its the reverse. The US is making sure that the Ukraine will not be able to have peace talks prior to US election by forcing Russia’s hand.

Its one of the things that annoy me about commentary about the war. Basically its nearly 100% garbage, since no understanding of modern war, just Hollywood movies, Video games and Risk.

Just because Putin doesn’t respond like a nigger every time NATO does something, doesn’t mean he is a foreign agent.

skippy says:

“Its the reverse. The US is making sure that the Ukraine will not be able to have peace talks prior to US election by forcing Russia’s hand.”

OK, I accept this is also a plausible interpretation.

S says:

Khorne cares not where the blood comes from, just that it flows. The goal is slaughter and Russian civilians are a way to maximize that. You can see that where Ukraine prioritizes randomly firing at civilian targets even while suffering an ammo crunch and in the unit dedicated to Khorne.

Hesiod says:

Musk tweets an excellent speech by Lord Blackadder criticizing the UK government:

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1822355008559489216

Now let’s see what cunning plan Starmer executes in response.

jim says:

Musk is tweeting nineteenth century leftism. Freedom of speech is always a lie — an alien priesthood favours freedom of speech when it is busy overthrowing the existing state religion, cracks down once it has overthrown the previous state religion and is imposing its its own. The crackdown by the new state religion of leftism became ludicrous and obvious in 1906, and has become ever more severe since then.

The problem is our demonic state religion views reality itself as heresy, and life itself as sacrilege.

Rather than freedom of speech, a better position is that the state religion should avoid positions that are falsifiable and false.

The state and the state religion has the right and duty to enforce truth and prohibit lies. The trouble is that this dangerous power and authority is apt to be used to prohibit truth and enforce lies. Freedom of speech, like scepticism, is an acid selectively applied against opposing faiths. Scepticism is invariably coupled with demands for such open minded that your brains are going to fall out.

You need a state and a state religion, or else you will be conquered by those that have one, but the problem is that these tend to grow cancerously.

Fact is, if you just want to be left alone and allowed to mind your own business, you are going to need a powerful despotic state, state religion, and an inquisition to crush those who do not want to leave you alone and who want to mind your business for you.

The Cominator says:

Free speech is not like equality which anyone who talks about it only wants power, some of the people who advocate for free speech actually want it. Now does any priestly group who advocates for it merely wants free speech… no.

Is Rowan Atkinson (who supposedly has an astronomically high IQ) part of a antiprogressive priesthood… no because he’d likely be dead because those aren’t tolerated except oddly for Muslims to some degree.

jim says:

> some of the people who advocate for free speech actually want it.

Yes. And no.

I want free speech. And I have been doing a fair bit of work to enable free speech on the internet.

But consider the Paris Olympic gay transsexual parody of the Last Supper. Obviously, if that is permitted, then it is not going to be permitted for someone to speak the truth about women, or races, or immigration, or gays, or global warming, etc, under his own name.

Key elements of Easter has been banned. If Jews are allowed, Christians are not allowed. If drag queens can perform sexual acts on the floor of Multnomah library, Andromeda and Perseus can non longer get it on in pages on the shelves.

There is not room enough in the cultural sphere for two state religions. For one to be free, the other must be unfree. If one voice is permitted, the other voice is going to be forbidden.

alf says:

Elon carries a good portion of reddit cringe with him. But on the plusside, Elon plays to win.

FrankNorman says:

Jim, this “if one opinion is allowed, the opposing opinion will be banned” point is something you assert often, but I don’t see the inevitability.
We live in a world today where one person is free to say that his religion is the one and only true one, and other people are equally free to laugh at that claim and tell him that said religion is a load of made-up nonsense.
Roman Catholics for example are allowed to claim that everyone should obey the Pope, but they don’t get to burn anyone at the stake for rejecting that demand.

Certainly there are people who wish and intend to extinguish all independent thought – whose ideology requires that in fact, since it cannot withstand intelligent scrutiny. But as long as those guys are kept out of power, we don’t have to become like them.

S says:

Because the rule only applies to live faiths. Can the religion reward its followers with status and women? If not, no one gives a shit and it is a larp.

If it can it inevitably comes in conflict with other faiths because status and women are zero-sum.

jim says:

> as long as those guys are kept out of power, we don’t have to become like them.

And how do you keep those guys out of power, except by making certain opinions have consequences?

You always have a state religion. And if you don’t, you will soon be ruled by an enemy state religion. Just as you always have an army, and if you don’t, you will soon be ruled by an enemy army.

If all you want to do is mind your own business, you are allowing people who want to mind your business for you to organise.

Gays don’t want you to be straight. Jews don’t want you to be Christian. Commies want to take your stuff. Those guys are not going to mind their own business.

The Cominator says:

You only really need to restrict SUBVERSIVE speech… what is subversive is anything outside the state religion’s pov subversive… no not really. We know from experience what is subversive.

Hostile univeralist religions are subversive. Englightenment lies (especially anything about egalitarianism) are subversive. Talking about women’s rights is subversive. Accusing the king baselessly of being a homosexual or something is subversive. Bawdy or cynical 1980s style comedy is not really subversive unless the king is a subject of fun… its hard to know where to draw the line but I genuinely do want a society with much freer speech for all who aren’t leftists. But I am in favor of killing a lot more leftists than you are so I figure the grip on the remaining leftist free population can be much lighter…

jim says:

Competition within the state religion to be the state religion results in an overly energetic state religion.

It is a pathology analogous to Roman generals fighting each other to be the imperator.

You are always going to get repression of competing religions, but if power struggles are under way between the very holy and the even holier, you are going to get a whole lot more repression.

The Cominator says:

TBH don’t quite grasp your meaning here…

I dream of a world where the modern prog left’s ideas are just as unthinkable to 99% of the population as NRx ideas are to normies now. I want them to get to a point where they are an eldritch horror with only the top people in the state, state religion, and the inquisition/secret police know what modern progleft “ideas” are. Hopefully the most common type of subversive that we will have to deal with in the future are the equivalent of modern normiecons and they’ll favor establishing a republic 18th/19th century style (and in any society you get the occasional shitlord who can’t resist saying the king is a fag because its forbidden to say the king is a fag). But the ideas of 3rd wave feminists commies and modern progressives… we won’t have won until their ideas are entirely out of living memory for all but a small subset of the population.

DH says:

There is far greater liberty of speech when the state religion is recognized as the state religion, and other religions are prohibited from competing against it.

In the same way that your overall liberty is better protected when you have one king a thousand miles away than when you have a thousand kings one mile away, you can speak your mind far more freely when there is one official authoritative state religion than when it’s 50 shades of leftism out-holying each other to temporarily become the unofficial state religion until a holier version gets into power, ad infinitum towards a leftist singularity.

An official state religion can afford to be lenient and let you mind your own business, whereas a “democracy of religion” leads to ever escalating conflict (mostly between different factions of leftism) and censorship until a strong leader says “this far left, and no farther,” or until the collapse.

jim says:

> We live in a world today where one person is free to say that his religion is the one and only true one, and other people are equally free to laugh at that claim

You can laugh at all religions except our officially unofficial religion. You are apt to go to jail for laughing at the religion that we officially do not have.

A2 says:

I want free righteous speech, that’s all.

jim says:

You will not get it, or will not be able to keep it, unless unrighteous speech is unfree.

A2 says:

Fine by me!

A2 says:

PS. I’m now logged in and have changed my password, but am still put in moderation. How vexing. Oh well.

jim says:

Sorry about that. I need to set up a new server. Working on it, will be a while.

DH says:

The Debate of the Three Bodyguards

3 Now King Darius gave a great banquet for all that were under him and all that were born in his house and all the nobles of Media and Persia 2 and all the satraps and generals and governors that were under him in the hundred and twenty-seven satrapies from India to Ethiopia. 3 They ate and drank, and when they were satisfied they departed; and Darius the king went to his bedroom, and went to sleep, and then awoke.

4 Then the three young men of the bodyguard, who kept guard over the person of the king, said to one another, 5 “Let each of us state what one thing is strongest; and to him whose statement seems wisest, Darius the king will give rich gifts and great honors of victory. 6 He shall be clothed in purple, and drink from gold cups, and sleep on a gold bed, and have a chariot with gold bridles, and a turban of fine linen, and a necklace about his neck; 7 and because of his wisdom he shall sit next to Darius and shall be called kinsman of Darius.”

8 Then each wrote his own statement, and they sealed them and put them under the pillow of Darius the king, 9 and said, “When the king wakes, they will give him the writing; and to the one whose statement the king and the three nobles of Persia judge to be wisest the victory shall be given according to what is written.” 10 The first wrote, “Wine is strongest.” 11 The second wrote, “The king is strongest.” 12 The third wrote, “Women are strongest, but truth is victor over all things.”

13 When the king awoke, they took the writing and gave it to him, and he read it. 14 Then he sent and summoned all the nobles of Persia and Media and the satraps and generals and governors and prefects, 15 and he took his seat in the council chamber, and the writing was read in their presence. 16 And he said, “Call the young men, and they shall explain their statements.” So they were summoned, and came in. 17 And they said to them, “Explain to us what you have written.”

The Speech about Wine

Then the first, who had spoken of the strength of wine, began and said: 18 “Gentlemen, how is wine the strongest? It leads astray the minds of all who drink it. 19 It makes equal the mind of the king and the orphan, of the slave and the free, of the poor and the rich. 20 It turns every thought to feasting and mirth, and forgets all sorrow and debt. 21 It makes all hearts feel rich, forgets kings and satraps, and makes every one talk in millions. 22 When men drink they forget to be friendly with friends and brothers, and before long they draw their swords. 23 And when they recover from the wine, they do not remember what they have done. 24 Gentlemen, is not wine the strongest, since it forces men to do these things?” When he had said this, he stopped speaking.

The Speech about the King

4 Then the second, who had spoken of the strength of the king, began to speak: 2 “Gentlemen, are not men strongest, who rule over land and sea and all that is in them? 3 But the king is stronger; he is their lord and master, and whatever he says to them they obey. 4 If he tells them to make war on one another, they do it; and if he sends them out against the enemy, they go, and conquer mountains, walls, and towers. 5 They kill and are killed, and do not disobey the king’s command; if they win the victory, they bring everything to the king—whatever spoil they take and everything else. 6 Likewise those who do not serve in the army or make war but till the soil, whenever they sow, reap the harvest and bring some to the king; and they compel one another to pay taxes to the king. 7 And yet he is only one man! If he tells them to kill, they kill; if he tells them to release, they release; 8 if he tells them to attack, they attack; if he tells them to lay waste, they lay waste; if he tells them to build, they build; 9 if he tells them to cut down, they cut down; if he tells them to plant, they plant. 10 All his people and his armies obey him. Moreover, he reclines, he eats and drinks and sleeps, 11 but they keep watch around him and no one may go away to attend to his own affairs, nor do they disobey him. 12 Gentlemen, why is not the king the strongest, since he is to be obeyed in this fashion?” And he stopped speaking.

The Speech about Women

13 Then the third, that is Zerub′babel, who had spoken of women and truth, began to speak: 14 “Gentlemen, is not the king great, and are not men many, and is not wine strong? Who then is their master, or who is their lord? Is it not women? 15 Women gave birth to the king and to every people that rules over sea and land. 16 From women they came; and women brought up the very men who plant the vineyards from which comes wine. 17 Women make men’s clothes; they bring men glory; men cannot exist without women. 18 If men gather gold and silver or any other beautiful thing, and then see a woman lovely in appearance and beauty, 19 they let all those things go, and gape at her, and with open mouths stare at her, and all prefer her to gold or silver or any other beautiful thing. 20 A man leaves his own father, who brought him up, and his own country, and cleaves to his wife. 21 With his wife he ends his days, with no thought of his father or his mother or his country. 22 Hence you must realize that women rule over you!

“Do you not labor and toil, and bring everything and give it to women? 23 A man takes his sword, and goes out to travel and rob and steal and to sail the sea and rivers; 24 he faces lions, and he walks in darkness, and when he steals and robs and plunders, he brings it back to the woman he loves. 25 A man loves his wife more than his father or his mother. 26 Many men have lost their minds because of women, and have become slaves because of them. 27 Many have perished, or stumbled, or sinned, because of women. 28 And now do you not believe me?

“Is not the king great in his power? Do not all lands fear to touch him? 29 Yet I have seen him with Apame, the king’s concubine, the daughter of the illustrious Bartacus; she would sit at the king’s right hand 30 and take the crown from the king’s head and put it on her own, and slap the king with her left hand. 31 At this the king would gaze at her with mouth agape. If she smiles at him, he laughs; if she loses her temper with him, he flatters her, that she may be reconciled to him. 32 Gentlemen, why are not women strong, since they do such things?”

The Speech about Truth

33 Then the king and the nobles looked at one another; and he began to speak about truth: 34 “Gentlemen, are not women strong? The earth is vast, and heaven is high, and the sun is swift in its course, for it makes the circuit of the heavens and returns to its place in one day. 35 Is he not great who does these things? But truth is great, and stronger than all things. 36 The whole earth calls upon truth, and heaven blesses her. All God’s works quake and tremble, and with him there is nothing unrighteous. 37 Wine is unrighteous, the king is unrighteous, women are unrighteous, all the sons of men are unrighteous, all their works are unrighteous, and all such things. There is no truth in them and in their unrighteousness they will perish. 38 But truth endures and is strong for ever, and lives and prevails for ever and ever. 39 With her there is no partiality or preference, but she does what is righteous instead of anything that is unrighteous or wicked. All men approve her deeds, 40 and there is nothing unrighteous in her judgment. To her belongs the strength and the kingship and the power and the majesty of all the ages. Blessed be the God of truth!” 41 He ceased speaking; then all the people shouted, and said, “Great is truth, and strongest of all!”

A2 says:

Fantastic debate. I’ll keep it in my quotes file.

Hesiod says:

>Musk is tweeting nineteenth century leftism

Indeed, but it’s a start. A lot of MAGA has as its idealism 18th century leftism or at least the original 13-colonies brand. Have to be careful around normiecons with their “America don’t need no king” and “muh freedom of religion”. But I will say four years hence from the coof lockdowns frens and fam are more receptive to Reactionary theory even if it leaves them silent and frustrated in expression.

Dr. Faust says:

Every public leader seems to be a gigantic, dripping pussy. We need a warrior leader who just pounded the crack rock to declare Christ is King and only faggots disagree. I’m sick of nice words. I hate placating to women’s sensibility and their penchant for niceness. We need Sabretooth to declare himself High King of Nigger Death and appoint the Taliban as head of the Department of Female Enslavement.

Pax Imperialis says:

Warriors and leaders are forged, not born, and the process of making them is largely owned by the regime. Don’t expect there to be a plethora of potential warrior speech in our environment.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/28rYxSCpLTo

You might say, ‘well that’s just the military’, but nearly every church, police department, or other organization that might serve as the training ground for leadership is also regime subverted.

If by some chance you’re a public leader who happens to be a dissident, you must pay lip service to the regime else find yourself under investigations, lawfare, and increasingly direct action. So if Elon, who we have much indication is aligned with us, skirts around the edges of regime approved speech, so be it.

To move by oneself in the short term is suicide. To not move in the long term is suicide. There will come a time when they have to move, and all of a sudden you’ll find their speech becomes much more frank. Historically, you only get bold declarations of the new regime after the security apparatus has been mobilized and the now previous regime has been liquidated. Of course, if the security apparatus did not mobilize sufficiently, they end up getting the old regime giving a speech about reactionary elements needing to be purged.

Cloudswrest says:

Not endorsing Ms. Blaire White (if you know what I mean), but holy f*ck!!! Check out this whole thread! Kamala campaign is using AI to inflate crowds!!!!
In one example the foreground crowd is not reflected on the shiny airplane surface!

https://x.com/MsBlaireWhite/status/1822383114414420479

Cloudswrest says:

Looks like the original source is from a parody account.

Dr. Faust says:

2020 fraud is the new standard and only action taken by our Holy Merchant will stop it. Will he draw the sword from the stone and declare himself king? Did taking a bullet enliven the warrior within? Or will he pout and file a claim with the DAs office?

Nothing is decided in November. Nothing.

Anonymous Fake says:

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/facebook-nukes-richard-dawkins-account-after-saying-male-boxers-should-not-fight-women

The end of an era. Christians actually showed up to debate Dawkins, even if most neutral people thought he won every debate. But the left will not bother to debate him.

Science is in a dark age now.

Pete says:

If you have power you don’t need to debate. You simply issue orders, and people can either follow the orders or receive punishment. The Left has power, Christians do not.

Pax Imperialis says:

>Science is in a dark age now.
>now.

As usual, AF is behind the curve

Anon says:

According to jim , he almost 80y late since ww2 when harvard conquered the world .
The closesd to jim analysis is peter theil and he think science and technology are slowing down since the 70s.
Something about the 70s always bothered me is that a switch was flipped and suddenly women where everywhere, especially universities. How come?

/pol/watcher says:

Of course there was the ending of Breton Woods, so a need to commodify the labor of women for more taxes, else the inflationary effect of overspending would be even worse. Additionally, ‘men’ had lost the war in Vietnam, so women reacted accordingly. This was accelerated with the fall of the Soviet Union in 91. At that point, women collectively decided they didn’t need protection anymore, so the war on men escalated.

someDude says:

Most neutral people did not think dawk won. They were told that dawk won.

A2 says:

It’s gruesomely fascinating that the self-styled Great Britain now has reached the Year of Five Emperors. There has been Boris the Bumbler, Liz the Honest Fool, Short Dark Rishi, and now Keir the Fuckwit. One may have thought it to be impossible for Labour to fail so badly in leadership, yet there they are.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Year_of_the_Five_Emperors

PS. Plz rescue me from moderation

jim says:

Moderation is broken. I will shortly try reinstalling wordpress, see if that works.

In the meantime, you have been added as a user. See if logging in works

Hesiod says:

Labour’s cunning plan is to lock up native whites and let them bleed to death via withholding medical care because racism:

https://archive.ph/f98Oj

Found a lot of “anti-racism” articles from the Royal College of Nursing which is now totally converged and Africanized.

jim says:

Genocide rapidly approaches, and Britain’s national health system will operate the killing fields.

The basic line will be same as in every previous genocide — “we are only going to kill the people that resist the genocide”

Cloudswrest says:

Hi stakes skeet shooting in Ukraine.

Very few men will ever do something as cool as blasting a g*y little robot out of the sky while ripping a heater and blasting down the road in the back of a truck with their buds.

https://x.com/simpatico771/status/1822738782808137971

Cloudswrest says:

If you think it’s just Trump, or the right, look at what just happened to Tulsi Gabbard. The day after publicly criticizing Kamala, she was placed on the terrorist watch list, and has been given “extended scrutiny” at every TSA stop since.

Pax Imperialis says:

Not surprising. Communists have consistently screeched that Beria/Lenin/etc were actually right wing reactionaries.

jim says:

First they will kill off all straight white right wing males.

Then all straights, all whites, all males, and all “right wingers”.

The Cominator says:

To be fair Beria ideologically kind of was, he very narrowly escaped execution after the revolution for being a counter revolutionary and basically kept getting hired to kill Bolsheviks BECAUSE he was a reactionary who liked killing Bolsheviks.

skippy says:

Never seen anyone claim Lenin was a rightist, and they erected a statue of Lenin in SF, so probably few except cranks think he was a rightist.

Stalin very clearly was a rightist, and the USSR would have lost WWII without Stalin, but as the Party Machine was a very real thing until the later 20th century, few said so until Krushchev’s denunciation, which itself was secret.

Beria was probably to the right of Stalin.

Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

What’s notable is just how ‘artless’, for lack of a better term, the incumbent order’s mechanisms of ordination have become.

Would suddenly putting an inner party congress woman on a ‘terrorist watch list’ as a means of punishing them for going off the reservation not also simply debase the whole concept as a side effect?

Yes, and also irrelevant, as far as they are concerned; the functionary today is simply to going to pull whatever level is closest available for them to pull.

jim says:

If Thermidor does not stage a coup soon, they are all going to die.

Pax Imperialis says:

Their track record shows they care about the future about as much as homosexuals do.

Anonymous Fake says:

Have you noticed that [*deleted*]

jim says:

No, I have not noticed that. The reason for my failure to notice is probably that when someone glows in the dark, I do not pay much attention to what he is saying.

Because the extreme deranged left is always fighting with the even more extreme deranged left, they send in their shills to stir up similar troubles on the right — where they get about as much traction as flat earthers.

Because Twitter still censors the right and still promotes shills, I don’t pay a whole lot of attention to what is going down on twitter. Every so often Musk finds that he himself is being censored.

TheFeebleClone says:

“Every so often Musk finds that he himself is being censored.” That really doesn’t surprise me. I was shadow banned and I’m almost certain I never posted anything even moderately controversial. I assume it was topicality rather than content.

That they have “open source” documentation in their censorship/visbility algorithm at twitter doesn’t mean it’s accessible. Look at it, it would require a professional to follow its implication.

I think anyone with practical experience with complicated legislation or legal issues with complicated precedents understands this pretty well. Plain sight line is often the best setting for camouflage.

Anonymous Fake says:

For whatever reason, I am basically invisible on Twitter, as my replies only get seen by 10-100 people even when I’m replying to a guy with 100k+ views per post. And they never repost what I say, or respond to it. I get the feeling that 99% of media is simply paying for a bigger megaphone, and not the inherent value of ideas.

But when I see hundreds of comments saying the same thing, idiotic MAGA proles making anti-Christian comments, I take it as real.

jim says:

The left cannot meme. No one is interested in your parallel universe. Plus, the algorithm probably thinks you are a bot, because a lot of your posts that I silently delete, look robotic to me.

> hundreds of comments saying the same thing,

I am following Maga on X, and I just don’t see this. At all. Give me some account @names. On Gab, the anti Christian fake right posters are all obvious shills. On X, I just don’t see any. Maybe the algorithm is preventing us from seeing the fake right arguing with the real Christians and the fake Christians arguing with the real right.

On Gab, whenever I am attacked from the left by a fake Christian, I hit them with the affirmation. No one has passed yet, and some of them drop the holier than thou fake Christian act and start shrieking about how the Bible is full of of horrible stuff.

Encelad says:

Britain going full totalitarian, with authorities gleefully flaunting all the people arrested during the protests. All names are British and include 12 year old boys

https://nitter.poast.org/CPSUK/status/1822937443043016898#m

The Cominator says:

You strike leviathan you must kill it.

Fidelis says:

https://x.com/frog_horizon/status/1823127424395030745

More than 1/3 of people polled say a violent overthrow is justified. You just need a guy that can organize — with these numbers even a very crude organization with a very vague plan would do — and not get assassinated and you win.

jim says:

That bullet whizzing through Trump’s ear should tell Trump that God saved him, and appointed him King.

When the Judiciary, the Department of Justice, the FBI (who just tried to kill him), and the official media again steal the election, even less believably than the last two times, he just has pull the sword from the stone, and get on with Kinging.

His people are many, and unafraid. All they need is the command.

If he chickens out like last time, the next bullet will not miss. Reading Baron’s body language, Baron sees the new normal. Hearing Tucker speak, Tucker sees the new normal. I pray that Trump gets the message that God, Tucker, and probably Baron are sending him.

Fidelis says:

The people around him need to throw him, kicking and screaming, far across the Rubicon. They have no choice but to fight or die, just as Trump has no choice– and we have found out Trump finds the steel in his spine when under fire.

jim says:

> The people around him need to throw him, kicking and screaming, far across the Rubicon.

That is what happened to Pinochet.

Cloudswrest says:

Pretty much Franco too.

Mister Grumpus says:

and honestly I wonder if Julius Caesar himself got thrown over and/or dragged through some of that water himself. Maybe this pattern goes all the way back to the beginning.

Team A game theory vs. Team B game theory, all the way down? I wouldn’t be surprised.

jim says:

It was Caesar’s decision, but who specifically triggered the decision was Mark Antony, who had fled Rome believing he was about to be killed. A couple of days after he fled, they passed the senatus consultum ultimum, a general authority to kill anyone without charges, trial, or due process, plus a demand for Caesar to return to Rome to face criminal charges that would result in the death penalty. Mark Antony was not suffering normality bias. Caesar was, continued to suffer it, and died of it.

The Cominator says:

Don’t think Caesar was suffering normality bias Caesar just didn’t think his moronic assassins would have done such a thing because he figured they knew his supporters would eventually come back and kill them for it and the Republic was dead anyway.

It was his assassins suffering normality bias, Caesar foolishly just assumed they weren’t stupid.

jim says:

There were a whole lot of negotiations during the period in which people agreed to restore the old normality — which agreements predictably always came to nothing. Clear that everyone who was a party to those negotiations was suffering severe normality bias.

Everyone wanted to avoid defect/defect, even when it became obvious that enormous numbers of Romans were going to be killed by Romans, they were trying to avoid that outcome by returning to the old normal. Everyone wanted the old normal back, but they could not get from where they were to where they wanted to be.

Once someone starts cheating on the mechanisms for peaceful transition of power, then there is no alternative to violent transition of power. You just have to kill all enemies, suspected enemies, potential enemies, and suspected potential enemies, or they are going to kill you. Normiecon bias is that we can live with just a little bit of cheating. No you cannot.

Trump cannot win, no one can win, unless they kill a whole lot of people, and, after killing a whole lot of people, establish a new mechanism for peaceful transfer of power. But very hard to establish a mechanism for peaceful transfer of power if you lack a virtuous elite.

The Cominator says:

By that time Rome had already been through the civil wars of Sulla and Pompey (and I think there was another guy too who was more obscure) had also marched on the city… and also Clodius (an interesting character but generally an ally of Caesar) controlled the forum sporadically via gangs loyal to him.

So I find this hard to believe… one reason Caesar seemed to incite a lot more derangement from the Optimates than Pompey is that the gens Julii had probably the best claim to be the heirs of the ancient royal family of Rome. Pompey could be a strongman during his life, but only Caesar could actually be the king (they were kind of wrong about this but its probably what they thought).

Oskar says:

> His people are many, and unafraid. All they need is the command.

An interesting article.

‘A different afternoon, a different leader put forward his own proposal. “We haven’t made any head way in the last 5 plus years,” he wrote. Let’s pick a date and descend on government buildings across the country, he suggested, and then kill the officials who’ve committed treason. “Time to stack body’s up.”’

https://www.propublica.org/article/inside-secret-ap3-militia-american-patriots-three-percent

somedude says:

Sounds like a Fed

Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

War and politics in an age of atomization.

We have seen, as occasionally observed, this as a classic bellwether of late empire societies; #trillions in damages can be caused in spontaneous outbreaks of violence, and yet see nothing come of it – nothing grow out of it – and see the state muddle through regardless, because however debased they may be at the moment, their victims still have zero coordination.

These are now multiple generations of people who have all grown up and lived and worked knowing nothing but atomization. Not only do they have no bunds, no leadership, no social superstructures of organization, they do not even know what it is or how to get it even if they wanted it; do not even know what to look for; would not even recognize it even if they were looking at it.

Cloudswrest says:

The woke Left’s response to Musk’s fireside chat with Trump appears to be unhinged! It’s like they think it is (or should be) illegal and they are trying to get the government to ban it. Europe too.

dave says:

Trump and Musk went for two and a half hours in completely unscripted and unfettered dialogue. Musk offered full support and sympathy. Broad range of topics. Trump was rambling, but on point and was carrying conversation throughout the entire thing.

This is a white pill. Musk is signalling Thermidorian support for Trump. Offers his platform to help Trump break through leftist media stonewall. Simultaneously shows off Trump at his strongest, the ability to ramble for two and a half hours and stay on point, which is something his opponent can’t do, because of inability to stay on point in a lucid way (word salad) and also too afraid to say what they really mean in an open format.

Twitter is now a major threat to the regime. expect lawfare, legislation, hacks, and ultimately a splinternet that keeps Twitter unroutable for many parts of the internet. Thermidor and internet design will prevent some of this, but it will be contemplated and tried.

But the whitepill is that the interview happened despite those threats, the Trump/thermidor deal may already be coup complete, and this is a signal of it. another big signal is to see what the Fed does with interest rates in September, they will have to decide what side they are on.

Aidan says:

Trump implied that he wanted to de-FDR the federal government and wanted to hire Musk to purge and dismantle the three letter agencies. We had Bukele and Milei as “trial runs” for mass removal of troublesome populations and complete axing of hostile government departments. Looks like Thermidor knows what time it is, and a number of influential and potentially powerful people are getting behind Trump in a very real and serious bid for power.

Dharmicreality says:

I am extremely displeased but not really surprised by the BJP government’s weak and useless stand against the ongoing genocide of Hindus in Bangladesh. This was a moment when Bharat should have risked an all out war and sent an army into Bangladesh to protect Hindus. Would be a symbolic move even to move troops into the border. So what if GAE steps in? The GAE has proved to be an enemy anyway and continuing to play by western diplomacy rules is never going to work.

Yes, there are a lot of international implications but unlike Putin, Modi doesn’t have the stomach for a war to save his own people and civilisation. BJP is too caught up in its blue pilled cuck nationalism and playing useless democratic games internally.

We are in urgent need of a Hindu monarch and revival of Kshatriya rule, as much as America needs a Christian monarch.

someDude says:

Gon’ be hard, Dawg!

Dharmic monarchs don’t be grown on trees

somedude says:

And while we are on the topic of Dharmic Monarchs, do we even have a Dharmic Jim? A dharmic Dugin, even?

A Chandragupta needs a Chanakya to become a Chandragupta! Where is our Chanakya? The best we have at the moment are the modern day equals of Nana Phadnavis of the Marathas. That ain’t gon’ cut it, now is it?

This is going to need divine intervention. The old Gods will have to work with us on this one.

Dharmicreality says:

I’m not sure whether any RSS top people are reactionary, since the whole foundation of the Sangh was socialistic, just a different flavour from that of Nehruvian socialism. Yes, there is talk in the mainstream media about Hindu genocide in Bangladesh. But being wedded to democracy and the secular constitution nothing can actually be done of course. We all know this and it’s all so frustrating.

Yes, we need divine intervention. I’m trying hard not to be black pilled. But within the next five years we need some drastic change.

Contaminated NEET says:

You guys just have to hang on until the GAE completes its suicide. It might be years, decades, or (god forbid) centuries, but you’ve probably got the sheer human biomass to endure until better times. What’s coming down the pike is going to discredit democracy, multiculturalism, globalism, secularism, feminism, and homosexuality for generations.

The Cominator says:

It won’t be centuries or at most more than a single decade.

Contaminated NEET says:

We will see. The market can remain irrational longer than you can remain solvent.

The Cominator says:

Thats the thing… the US ain’t going to be solvent that long.

someDude says:

The GAE is just one of many obstacles. Just because the GAE goes, does not mean we will get a Dharmic Monarch. It does not mean Modi will abolish democracy. He might well double down saying the GAE did democracy wrong.

We might well get civil war and there is no guarantees the Hindus are going to win that one.

Or we may continue on our millenia and a half old path of civilizational ling-chi, i.e. death by a thousand cuts, which seems the most likely. The past has great inertia. I can almost sympathise with chairman Mao and the cultural revolution. Almost!

Contaminated NEET says:

It’s not just, or even primarily, that the GAE won’t be an obstacle anymore – it’s that the GAE’s flamboyant death-throes will explode any legitimacy or appeal of the suicidal Progressive memeplex that has hypnotized India’s leaders.

dharmicreality says:

@Contaminated NEET,

In India, globohomo despite its almost complete capture of the media and Judiciary is still something of an imported commodity with its appeal limited to the English speaking elite and even lukewarm because the current generation of Leftist elites in India were bred on old type Marxism.

These old Commies are still stubbornly holding on and in a sense their adopting of wokeism has been weak and half-hearted. You would find that reservation of quotas for “backward classes” (a.k.a affirmative action) is a bigger issue than “rights” of faggots and LGBTQWERTYs in India despite the top Courts making a big deal of it. In India, 90s Leftism is still going strong.

someDude says:

@contaminated NEET, a collapse of the GAE will prevent the Indian left from growing, but it won’t dehypnotize them. They’re too invested and i expect a doubling down on progressive values after declaring India the last bastion of enlightenment values abandoned by the west. It will have to be helicopter rides to the Bay of Bengal

someDude says:

One white pill. Atleast they are permitting the media to report on Mohammedans lynching Hindus and desecrating the shrines. There was a time when the media could not report all this.

It may well be a case of too little too late, but keep in mind that similar reports are not permitted in the occident, the UK riots being a case on point

dharmicreality says:

A part of the Indian media which is otherwise almost thoroughly globohomogenized is surprisingly holding out for Hindu Nationalism, which is an indication that globohomo is still only an imported commodity and hasn’t become quite the mind-virus it is in the West, where it breeds on native soil.

However, the old Commie Left more than make up for that deficiency as their Hindu hatred is even more vicious and long standing than that of globohomo wokeism. The difference is not subtle, but it is otherwise an academic issue for Dharmics like us.

someDude says:

I think there is a faction among the Indian elite that indeed thinks of mohammedanism as the enemy and they are allowing the media to report it. The media, in Bharat as in the west, are a bunch of whores always ready to suck power’s cock.

They would not be reporting it if the progressives led by kejriwal were in power.

Dharmicreality says:

Yes, in the GAE the entire media was solidly anti-Trump when he was actually official president, while in India, the BJP has ideological leverage on some issues in the media.

The funny thing is the BJP is more “woke” than the old Commie Left on some issues.

Which shows that the present state religion in India isn’t quite as clear cut as in the West.

Sher Singh says:

Or we may continue on our millenia and a half old path of civilizational ling-chi, i.e. death by a thousand cuts.

Eh Raah Guru Gobind Singh Ji ne Chaar Puttar Vaar Ke Taal Ditta Si.

Uth Ke Sir Te Pagg Van Hath Vir Farh Talwar

Hun Chaar Varan Vi Apni Karamat Vikoun Ge

ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕਾਖਾਲਸਾਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕੀਫਤਿਹ

Sher Singh says:

The state religion of Endia is to steal from the house of the upper caste.

The arguments and divisions are because these small souled people believe they’ve won and start arguing over the spoils.

It’s a similar situation to the Vijaynagar era when the sultans split into 3.

Our goal must be to preserve, and grow our racial stock to grind up and destroy both Turk and dasyu.

Both the Mohammedans and the Bastard cult are only temporary problems.

ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕਾਖਾਲਸਾਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕੀਫਤਿਹ

someDude says:

Yes, they are not clear cut. That’s why we need a Chanakya. It is the job of the good Brahmin to bring clarity to these issues and be able to convince the Kshatriya how following the Dharma will increase the Kshatriya’s own base of power. Needs a reformation

Another white Pill, the RSS, for all their flaws are the best we have. Their impotence on Bangladesh notwithstanding, their assault on the powers of the waqf board brings a sliver of Hope

We need the old Gods to help us! If they wish to continue to be worshipped on this earth, they better help us out.

Handi says:

Hello is this the Hindoo Curry Restaurant? I’d like to order one chicken tikka masala and one chicken vindaloo please. Also a side of rice and naan

jim says:

This Hindoo stuff is relevant. Right now we have five nuclear powers (not counting muppet states as independent nuclear powers) and thus potentially five major state religions. (Most states, sooner or later, one way or another, wind up following the state religion of a major nuclear power.)

Right now all the major state religions are walking dead, and the vacuum attracts demons real or metaphorical. Putin is addressing this problem by putting Russian Orthodoxy on life support. Seems to be working. Christianity is good at resurrection.

Best case outcome is Russia goes Russian Orthodox, the rump of the Global American Empire goes Christian Protestant Nationalist, China goes Christian Protestant with Chinese characteristics, Pakistan goes old type Muslim, following the highly successful example of the Taliban, and India goes old type Hindu. But Hinduism has been walking dead for well over a thousand years, while Anglicanism has only been walking dead for two centuries years. Into this vacuum, demons walk. So a highly likely outcome is that woke dies as the state religion of the Global American Empire and is replaced by something else, but something very similar to woke winds up ruling India.

All the Indian commenters seem to blink at reviving fifteen hundred year old Hinduism, while not a single Christian blinks at reviving two centuries old Christianity.

The Global American Empire is horrified by the threat that Modi might revive Hinduism the way Putin is reviving Russian Orthodoxy, but our Indian commenters seem to doubt both Modi’s resolve, and current year Hinduism’s fitness.

alf says:

We need the old Gods to help us! If they wish to continue to be worshipped on this earth, they better help us out.

I don’t get this. Do you think you can blackmail your gods into helping you? Only a weak god would be moved by blackmail.

someDude says:

@alf, we’re blackpilling man! It’s essentially a cry of despair

Contaminated NEET says:

@someDude
If it wasn’t for blackpills, I wouldn’t have any pills.

Sher Singh says:

It’s a terror tactic meant to demoralize & scare people to make these things appear normal, and for you to feel helpless.

There’s a magnitude of difference between the UK riot & what goes on in Hind.

The old Gods are found in weapons.

Stock up.

ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕਾਖਾਲਸਾਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕੀਫਤਿਹ

Mayflower Sperg says:

The Western Front of WW1 is best remembered for its years of grinding trench warfare, but it began and ended as a war of movement.

Kiev just demonstrated for a second time that if you plan an offensive so risky and stupid that the enemy takes no precautions against it, and you don’t share this plan with the boy-lovers in Washington, it just might work. It’s the same principle that had Hitler’s armies striking through the Ardennes, twice.

Putin needs to stay calm and fight on Russian soil exactly as he’s fighting on Ukrainian soil. There is no border, only a line of contact. The only difference here is that the European Plain gets more forested the farther north you go, so more tree cover for troops to hide under.

The Cominator says:

Is it going to work though… or are the troops doing it just going to get cutoff encircled and destroyed. And as far as the second Ardennes offensive goes yes the whole thing does remind of the battle of the bulge, it felt good to the Germans for a second that it just might work but ultimately led to faster destruction of what was left of their army.

Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

The Kursk raid is like a glass of milk; the longer Kiev leaves it hanging out, the more sour is gets.

The best thing they could have done, having achieved operational surprise and rolled up several battalions of national guard conscripts… was to withdraw. Turn the area into another grey zone like the rest of the theater to ensure their counterparts would have to slog through it if they want it like usual, but look elsewhere for more opportunities and don’t keep throwing good money after bad.

As you might imagine, most people, and especially the coke goblin and his hangers-on, are resistant to this kind of thinking. They just went through the trouble of putting together this great big offensive plan, they want it to ‘pay off’, they don’t want to make the methods generic, they want it to be the biggest one-and-done they can get.

Speaking more broadly, one might say these events lend spiritual validity to the Suvorov Hypothesis of the ostfront in 1942. A Russian force caught flat-footed by an attack because they themselves were planning an attack in the same direction (f.ex. removing the minefields), and interpreted the force buildup on the other side as simply defensive reinforcement, but got beaten to the punch instead.

Aidan says:

It only “worked” in the sense that it got some adulatory articles published in western media. When you have low troop density due to enemy munitions, a blitzkrieg can look like it’s taking a lot of territory. The Ukrainians sped through low density Russian lines, inflicted respectable casualties on the inexperienced Russian soldiers in the direction, then got butchered by artillery and airstrikes, and promptly retreated to a semi defensible position, a town that they barely have a toehold in, which if they attempt to seriously hold, will cost them an enormous amount more men and material.

It seems that they wanted to actually capture the nuclear plant and cause it to melt down, or hold the threat of making it melt down over the US to secure more material. The second objective was to attempt to cause falling, falling Russia to move armies from the front into Kursk, letting UKR’s second big reserve attack whatever region Russia pulls troops from, but Russia did not bite on this, so now the second big Ukrainian army is probably going to be shoved into the Kursk cauldron to get blown up.

The Cominator says:

Off topic musing but one reason I so so hate blue culters is that I just don’t see what the average blue cultists gets out of their stupid religion. They are just npc morons easily persuaded to go against their own interest and we will never be safe till we put their whole mongrel npc race underground.

The blue culter does not really get a community of believers (unless he is a fag) as they are not especially loyal to each other and you can be excommunicated for almost nothing, the women make themselves insufferable and repulsive, there is no promise of reward in the hereafter… I know why you have to join the cult in Hollywood or Academia but why the fuck do other people join it?

alf says:

Life in a gilded cage with some NPC friends ain’t that bad. And sure some of the paint is peeling off and I don’t know about that homeless dude over there, but there’ve always been good years and bad years and things are definitely not as bad as those extreme right weirdos claim.

The Cominator says:

Well I compare them to a proper religious cult like the Mormons (though they are getting pozzed now). Mormon guys have all sorts of obligations and restrictions but in return they get a QT young wife, a real community and the promise of their own heaven planet in the hereafter. Blue culters get told they are evil if they are not a biracial foreign intellectual cretin and faggot or tr00n.

alf says:

Obviously blue culters have to first sign a contract saying that if they’ll reproduce, which is pretty selfish but OK, it has to be with a woman halfway her thirties with a long sexual history and who is about to hit the wall. But hey, 1.3 kids is better than 0 kids right, and besides, marriage and children is a lot of work when instead there’s restaurants and holidays and vapid entertainment to attend to.

The Cominator says:

The Blue Cult being officially gynocratic cannot promise or even give a strong chance of a mid 30s roastie to its members. The Mormons traditionally a proper cult were patriarchal (even if getting rapidly pozzed) and of course heteronormative as outlined even as recently as 1995 when they issued “The Family: A Proclamation to the World”. https://scholarsarchive.byu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1404&context=marriageandfamilies

The Document sounds somewhat egalitarian (though not entirely) because it was partially worded for outside consumption but I’ve heard that traditional Mormon social activities for girl Mormons were things like baking cookies together for the boy Mormons so it wasn’t that way within the cult. I get the appeal of the Mormon cult as it was traditionally… but what appeal does the blue cult (outside of like keeping a career in Hollywood or Academia) actually have?

DH says:

what appeal does the blue cult (outside of like keeping a career in Hollywood or Academia) actually have?

It’s the sin of pride, and nothing else.

Leftists with little to no pride tend to become rightists.

/pol/watcher says:

It’s more envy than pride at least. They just want everyone better than them at x to be looted, disfigured or killed as needed. That’s why they worship Equality.

Their pride parades show their lack of pride, imo. If you have to yell it loudly, you lack whatever it is. Like judges and politicians being addressed with honorable so and so.

Niiiidriveevof says:

Certainly leftism thrives on the pride of thinking oneself god above other men and above reality itself, though I do think sinful envy predominates over sinful pride for them.

But there’s several kinds of pride, and the main thing that causes leftists to become rightists is the pride of unwillingness to debase oneself beneath a man’s dignity, to fulfill the unstable demands of leftism with crimestop and doublethink.

/pol/watcher says:

From Aristotle a virtue is the middle between two extremes.
To be clear I haven’t read all of his Nicomachean ethics, so this is my formulation

Self loathing – – – Humility/Humbleness – – – Pride

With this axis representing the disposition a person has towards their own self.

Pride is the font of all other sin because it is idolatry of self over God.

DH says:

The core of the sin of pride is moral pride: self-conceiving as morally superior to all those other apes out there.

Today when NPCs (influenced by the Frankfurt School via mass entertainment) denounce pride, they focus more on the superficial stuff that makes a narcissist: pride in your achievements and your family and every other healthy thing. But that’s focusing on the lesser evil, rather than on the greater evil – satanic spin detected. The heart of the matter is delusionally idealizing yourself as a “decent human being,” and demanding to be recognized as such, in much the same way the sexually dysphoric delusionally idealize themselves as the opposite sex, and demand to be recognized as such. A radical leftist will plunge the entire world into oceans of blood and misery and then go on feeling like the best human who ever lived, and will demand to be treated as such.

Nothing delivers a stronger dopamine hit to progressives’ brains than pursuing their pride. Nothing is even remotely comparable. It’s as difficult for them to let go of their pride as it’s difficult for trannies to let go of their trannyism – probably much more difficult, in fact. It’s like their dopaminergic reward centers are pride-oriented. It must have been adaptive in the ancestral environment to be known as the most moral hominid in your corner of the savanna, whether or not that’s what you actually were. They don’t care about doing the right thing; they care about being the “kind of person” who “does the right thing,” which happens to be what the high priesthood of progressivism tells them is the right thing at the moment, or something even more progressive than that if they seek to replace the current high priesthood of progressivism with themselves. Pride spurs the holiness spiral.

To maintain their delusion, they need to divorce their moralfagging from reality, hence solipsism, reality needs to be discarded so they can feel like — and be known as — the most morally upright person in the room, paying absolutely no attention to the horrifying consequences of their morality in the real world, or in the case of demon worshippers (which most radical leftists are, certainly among the younger generations today), actively relishing those horrifying consequences. If the real world comes in the way of their pride, so much worse for the real world. Progressives self-conceive as so much holier than GNON, because nothing pricks their brains more intensely than the pursuit of pride – and like other addictions, it requires stronger and stronger hits over time, down to the bottomless pit.

Leftism is a shriek from the darkest, innermost depths of Gehenna, and you know who dwells therein.

The Cominator says:

I would say that it is one of the crowning achievements of the sort of moral philosophy of both the ancient greeks and Christianity to identify pride as the sin of the most fundamental evil. People can commit great crimes they wouldn’t normally due to covetous lust and greed. Worse crimes out of envy or vengefulness (and I’ll admit I want revenge on these people) but yes you are correct that pride can corrupt the soul to the foulest shade of black.

But I’m just wondering how it works… someone out of high school gets to college gets swept up in the blue cult… the blue cult does really nothing for them so how does the pride that causes them to not leave develop.

DH says:

the blue cult does really nothing for them so how does the pride that causes them to not leave develop

It does nothing for them in terms of material gain in the real world (unless they rise up the ladder of the priesthood, in which case they gain in the real world plentifully), but it does precisely what it needs to do in the domain they actually care about: the pride-oriented reward centers in their brains. Being “better than those deplorables” satisfies them in a manner nothing else ever could.

It just doesn’t matter that the whole world is burning – nothing trumps dying in a state of absolute superior holiness, having murdered everyone else for insufficient holiness.

skippy says:

“But I’m just wondering how it works… someone out of high school gets to college gets swept up in the blue cult… the blue cult does really nothing for them so how does the pride that causes them to not leave develop.”

For a lot of people it is just how the world is. You don’t just disagree with people around you or leave your job (who has any money anyway?).

It is heavily based on “isolation” and has stopped working (in the snese that it’s encountering more resistance/non-believers not in the sense that the spiral has reversed) as information sources have decentralized.

The Cominator says:

Not disagreeing with people around you would just require keeping your mouth shut for most jobs.

Cloudswrest says:

That’s what I do.

skippy says:

Jobs increasingly demand affirmative compliance and you’re surrounded by true believers watching your behavior. Not saying it’s impossible to hide in plain sight but most people just go with it.

The Cominator says:

Pride is also REALLY toxic and unbecoming to a woman… its much worse for them.

The enginerette girl the one non crazy chick in my life who sort of seemed to like me… she was other than pursuing a mannish college major was like a chick out of time like she seemed like she came from the 1940s or earlier and she was so humble by nature that girl had no pride at all. You’d tell her she was pretty and also compliment her for not being insane she’d tell you she thought she was a plain jane and that trust me I’m batshit (which I’m sure being a woman she was batshit but compared to other women not so much).

Calvin says:

Quite the contrary, a healthy amount of pride is greatly correlated with being a rightist. A leftist is someone willing to utterly debase themselves on a moment’s notice, who takes no care for the dignity of themselves, their forebearers, their nation, their history, or anything really.

Anonymous Fake says:

The main reason is that the blue tribe is capable of building the most beautiful cities in the world, [*deleted*]

jim says:

We built those cities, you destroyed them. Paris and London today are post apocalyptic horror shows. San Francisco is becoming Detroit.

Anonymous Fake says:

[*deleted for presupposing an alternate reality*]

jim says:

Whites did not voluntarily leave Detroit. They fled arson and murder. They were driven out. And now whites are being driven out of Paris, London, and San Francisco.

When Kathryn Steinle was murdered by Francisco Sanchez because she was white and he was brown, and he was acquitted of the murder because she was white and he was brown, that was the beginning.

Everyone I see eating Domino’s pizza, can afford it.

What they cannot afford is housing, healthcare, and ever longer educational attendance. And the reason that they cannot afford housing is that the vote bank imported to live on crime, welfare, and voting left drives white people out of the places that they built, and whites are forbidden to build new places.

Anonymous Fake says:

[*deleted*] are perpetually shocked that their youth choose to leave to blue states [*deleted*]

jim says:

Allowing this fragment of delusion through to demonstrate why I suppress the rest of it.

The Cominator says:

Those cities were built by your ancestors (well you are Catholic so not so much your ancestors as the people who really built them were Protestants) who even if they were progs at the time would be horrified by what modern progressives believe and by modern society in general.

Contaminated NEET says:

>blue tribe is capable of building the most beautiful cities in the world

The blue tribe hates beautiful architecture with a fiery passion. Le Corbusier is their guru, and he declared that we must all live in concrete boxes resembling World War I bunkers so they can brutalize our spirits and aesthetic senses. You’re still allowed (barely) to appreciate beautiful buildings from the past, but only racist tasteless bourgeois losers would ever build a new building that doesn’t look like a pile of garbage.

The enemy does not build beautiful cities. They buy up existing beautiful cities using paper money they print and pass out to their cronies in fake industries. Then they ruin them. When they actually try to build a new city, they produce Brasilia and Chandigarh. They gaslight themselves and us into believing these are masterpieces of architecture and urban planning, but it’s obvious they’re crap.

Neurotoxin says:

“the blue tribe is capable of building the most beautiful cities in the world”

This is an example of the fact that leftists love to say the exact opposite of the truth.

Their architecture is at best “macrogeometric litter,” as one commenter on this very blog once said, and the streets of the cities they run are clogged with insane homeless people and human feces. The more leftist the city government, the more crazy vagabonds and shit in the streets. Exhibit A: San Francisco.

embeveraged commuter says:

few variations on this
– Very few actually do. We’ve all seen the voting rates of white men, or taxpayers, or other variants of ‘iq100+ actual sentient human’.
– Women get to ride Jeremy Meeks, handouts through DEI jobs, and massive artificial status. Of course they end up miserable in the long run, but by then they would rather die than admit they were wrong.
– The men who do go along with it i’ve seen are
a)doing sneaky fucker strategy
b)are able to quietly live a traditional lifestyle themselves by luck so have no reason to think too much about it and just repeat the tv.
c)not wired to disagree with the tv
d)Are high to moderate status in blue cult, but ridiculous outside it, such as one with race-mixed kids or a parasitic bureaucracy job

The Cominator says:

Voting stats are not a good indicator because of how corrupt they are particularly with blacks. Black blue culters are in fact almost nonexistent. You won’t find a black guy who says he believes in the tranny bullshit unless he is running for office as a Democrat.
Women get to do all that stuff without actually having to join the blue cult.
a)doing sneaky fucker strategy (once again you don’t need to join the blue cult to run the sneaky fucker strategy)
b) Don’t actually see many blue culters with 1950s style families anymore (you don’t see many people with them at all… but not many blue culters).
c) I guess…
d) Perhaps in some cases

embeveraged commuter says:

I assumed ‘being in the blue cult’ meant any true believing leftist, rather than the extreme activist subset of that.
The voting is a good enough metric to point out that such people are few enough in number that they can just be written off as the dysfuntional end of the bell curve.
a->d covers the white men I’ve seen being actively leftist in person. Obviously strategically what they’re doing isn’t wise, but in the short run they’re keeping the fun going and their ego inflated.

The Cominator says:

Its especially important that white male leftist die if you want any kind of patriarchal white nationalism to be a thing. When I say voting stats are unreliable I mean its hard to extrapolate real numbers from the rampant fraud. Black guys tend to like Trump but at least in some areas of the country black voting stats are somehow worse for him than the voting stats of single white girls at liberal arts colleges. This is because the political machines in Detroit Milwaukee Phili etc vote for blacks and blacks on the whole mostly don’t vote.

Jehu says:

Yeah I suspect that a mail in ballot is ‘automatically’ generated for anybody in an urban district that hasn’t legitimately voted for a couple of election cycles. I suspect in most other jurisdictions with mail in ballots that Democratic GOTV minions are given curated lists of who has actually voted so far so they can use saturation tactics on those who can be browbeaten in person into voting. Both of those things are probably in the ‘normal’ voting fraud.

embeveraged commuter says:

Yes we all know the dem voter numbers are massively inflated. Maybe once this regime has collapsed it will be possible to accurately poll people again.
But even in the fake data, they aren’t willing to lie enough to show net taxpayers, white men, actual Americans, etc, voting dem in serious numbers.

What would you make of a black who likes Trump on some emotional level but is happy to benefit from gibs and let the political machine vote for him?

jim says:

Thing is if they show people like you and me voting democrat, credibility instantly drops to zero among all people like you and me.

So what they are telling us is a bunch of foreigners and single women are voting Democrat (without however showing up at the polling booth as visible Dem voters).

The Cominator says:

Single women outside solidly red states do vote Democrat but the black voters numbers aren’t close to real.

Calvin says:

Don’t actually see many blue culters with 1950s style families anymore (you don’t see many people with them at all… but not many blue culters).</blockquote.
Newsom.

Fidelis says:

All humans to some extent are programmed by the humans they are exposed to. Just as the cells in your body directly and indirectly coordinate with the rest of the units composing your body. The blue cult as you call it, at the normie level, is just this programming going haywire. You cannot project logic into it, it’s not rational weighted decision making. It’s some sort of deep brain algorithm that uses neighboring opinions to then construct the rest of the organisms behavior. Hence, the NPC meme hitting so true.

The Cominator says:

Anyone who stays now is certainly a fucking subhuman bucket crab.

The Cominator says:

I guess I just don’t understand being that much of an NPC, and when I look at other successful cults throughout history there were like actual benefits to being a member of the cult (something the Mormons have done well to maintain for a long time) which I don’t see with the blue cult.

Fidelis says:

Girard’s theories on mimesis and mimetic desire seem true. Humans think collectively, hence psychotic breaks from isolation (which can be channeled spiritually by those predisposed, but that’s a digression). It’s rough if you believe yourself less predisposed to this game of collective programming, hard to not see everyone around you as an NPC meat robot, but that’s the human condition.

notglowing says:

The benefit is not being attacked and having your career destroyed, bridges burned, and being seen as evil by your peers. I think that’s a pretty obvious one. They don’t need to give active benefits when it’s the state religion.

The Cominator says:

I wish Jim would weigh in on this… why do people join and stay in the blue cult when unlike classic cults it really doesn’t provide any benefits for its members to offset the costs.

Pete says:

They get the feeling of righteousness that comes from being told they are saving the country, saving the planet…saving democracy itself.

They are told that they are transferring money from greedy billionaires to feed the hungry and help the poor, although what really happens is they transfer money from average people into the pockets of greedy politicians.

And, they get the heady feeling of dispensing justice upon badthinkers.

someDude says:

Also the fact that they have no competition. If organized violence by gay guys can beat unorganised violence by burly red blooded men, I figure a wierd cult can dominate atomized individuals. So they join the cult

Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

The solipsistic narc’s primary animus is identity without reality.

“I may not actually be XYZ, but I am just as good as someone who is, *if not better even*.”

From this animus all forms of rhetorical, intellectual, and ideological concatenations which may serve to rationalize the animus follow naturally.

The critical schelling point is when the solipsistic narc collides with a whole environment full of other solipsistics narcs, to various degrees, who are all interested in the same thing too – like radioactive elements accelerating each others decay – and they converge on mutually supporting narratives for validation of self and devalidation of those whose very reality of existence devalidates theirselves.

Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

It is a big mistake of course to take the word of a gnostic on defining social pathologies. One of the very first things narcs do when they are in position to write the books all the legally kidnapped children in their child prisons must read, is to define ‘narcissism’ as overlapping with superficial characteristics of more valuable, successful, and or high energy people, such as grandiosity or zeal. In fact, in perfect irony they will even go so far as to define maintenance of frame regardless of social pressures – id est, ‘internal locus of control’, ‘revaluation of values’, ‘teleological consciousness’, ‘world formation capacity’, in a phrase, natural nobility – as a diagnostic checkbox, while defining a definitional narc trait, sensitivity to external validation, as a disqualifier of narcissism (‘well socialized’).

Uncle Ted was as prescient on this point as Plotinus and Augustine on the gnostics were in late antiquity. The archetypical leftist is someone who instinctually identifies as a loser, or criminal, or bad person that any good person would be well to be rid of, *even and especially when they are in positions of power over others*, and so they must ‘strike first’; they must always be seeking power, and seeking to use power, to create a world that is safe for bad people (like them) to do bad things (like what they want).

Neurotoxin says:

A lot of it is just straight-up bioleninism. Everyone who’s not a straight white man gets affirmative action in employment and other benefits.

Why a straight white man would accept this ideology is a mystery, and indeed, increasingly they are rejecting it.

alf says:

Well sort of, yes, but bioleninism installed on top of what our civilisation used to be.

It is good to keep in mind that we are on the far bell curve IQ end, certainly in terms of predicting the future. We see bioleninism not just now, but in the future, because we extrapolate current trends. Normal people tend to look at their bank accounts, at their holidays and cars, and conclude that things are simply still working.

but they’re not working! Well some stuff is, some stuff isn’t. That’s the grey area right, that’s the transition we are currently in. But even viewing it as a transition is our way of looking at.

There’s also a couple of other principles to keep in mind. The first is that human is a creature of habit and he does not like abruptly changing lanes. Take the archetypal boomer who yells at his tv but has watched it for so long that the thought of just disconnecting the tv does not enter his mind. Same principle, if slightly less deeply engrained, works for younger people.

Another thing is role models: what is the alternative to blue cult? What is red cult? Is it the divorced mgtow gun-shooting uncle at the bbq? Is he cool? What people look up to, they emulate. Whenever I go to a party or bbq, I tend to have the hottest wife and the smartest memes. That’s how we win the culture war.

The Cominator says:

The Biden regime has been an absolute disaster economically so what is working we have stagflation worse than the 70s… blue cultist need to go under the ground all of them. We don’t win until we make that happen.

alf says:

If you think things couldn’t get worse the coming years might carry some nasty surprises for you.

The Cominator says:

Oh I know they can but I hate not just having the war because we need institutional support…

alf says:

blue cultist need to go under the ground all of them. We don’t win until we make that happen.

I favor proscriptions in the style of Augustus. Since we have a bigger infestation and a bigger population, the proscription lists will likely be considerably larger than the hundreds if not thousands killed by Augustus.

The Cominator says:

Augustus was only dealing with a corrupt oligarchy but there was nothing resembling what Jim would call a “live faith” really opposed to him (at least nothing recorded in any surviving primary sources) or his political agenda… certainly nothing as insane as the blue cult,

We have to wipe out the whole faith not just the oligarchy, destroying the leaders and the megaphones won’t be enough. That has proven insufficient to wipeout leftism in the past… at the bare minimum any believer in a priestly type class has to go no matter how humble his degree. We will also as much as possible replace journalists lawyers academics etc with a Musk style AI.

Neurotoxin says:

We see bioleninism not just now, but in the future, because we extrapolate current trends. Normal people tend to look at their bank accounts, at their holidays and cars, and conclude that things are simply still working.

It’s hard for me to sound out what Normie thinks. This is especially true now that saying Bad Things can ruin, or at least dramatically complicate, one’s life. Thus our host’s habit of getting a few beers into people, and then asking them.

A major US polling firm a few years ago found that sixty-something percent of US adults perceived the country as sliding toward civil war. People are aware that it’s no longer politics as normal.

Whenever I go to a party or bbq, I tend to have the hottest wife and the smartest memes.

Good. One attractive wife is probably worth dozens of memes.

alf says:

The ability to make comparisons across time is not one that comes naturally to all men. Many suffer from presentism: the way it is now, it has always been, it will always be. .

Neurotoxin says:

>Cominator

Indeed, just disempowering the leaders of the leftist religion won’t be enough; it’s too broad-based at this point. I recently talked politics with a “liberal” white woman and was shocked at the ignorance. (I shouldn’t be, of course, but I was.) She didn’t know that e.g. in 2020 election observers were kicked out of polling places just before Biden – coincidentally! – started catching up to Trump. She believes every lie the Old Media spews about Trump.

So putting a few criminals from the federal government into jail (or whatever) won’t do it. We can’t just pluck up weeds one at a time, by hand. We need the political equivalent of weed-killer, something that you can just spray around that will kill the leftist religion. We somehow need to do this wholesale, not retail.

The Cominator says:

Like with the de Nazification process every American has to be brought in and deeply examined as to his/her political beliefs and failing the examination badly enough means you have to go. Go woke get choked…

Dharmicreality says:

Like Jim always says, normies will swear that leftist beliefs are unspeakably evil when the official state religion changes and tells them so and overnight will never recall a time when they believed in that unthinkable stuff.

The Cominator says:

Not what has happened historically and why take a chance?

Mayflower Sperg says:

Make the people we suspect of being leftists execute the people we know are leftists. E.g. have the leftist noosed up while standing on a platform secured with a dozen pins, each controlled by one suspected leftist.

Identifying committed leftists isn’t that hard because, like the Communists in Indonesia, they assume that their power will only increase, and so make little or no effort to hide their identities.

The Cominator says:

No no we make the normiecons, the tradcucks and the cuckservatives carry out the killings. But ALL the people who are going to vote for Kamala now have to go…

Me says:

Cults do not work by dishing out rewards, they work by isolation.
Everything else is evil, only the cult is good is the only allowed opinion, which prevents members from even knowing there are better options, eliminating choice entirely.
Nobody actually wants to vote for Caligula Harris as evidenced by 2020 primary numbers and if you remove the censorship, propaganda and cheating, nobody will.

The Cominator says:

To some degree but every cult in the past has offered some combination of rewards even if they are based on what is probably lies (secret knowledge and reward in the hereafter) even if they use psychological isolation and terrorism as well…

Jehu says:

A friend of mine who is a pastor has talked to some former rajneeshees, who were a pretty notorious cult in Oregon back in the 80s. They said that they never worked harder but they also never had sexual access as good as they did back under the cult. But the current Blue cult isn’t providing that and hasn’t been probably since the 80s.

The Cominator says:

Yeah you don’t see many cults that you study that let members in good standing remain atomized incels. Either they basically pair you up with a tradwife or they tell all female members they have a duty to putout for all the male members. I guess the exception is suicide cults and the left is one of those… but it doesn’t bill itself that way. It seems to me that no matter how much I hate leftists I don’t hate them enough.

Jehu says:

The current crop of leftists is so bad it creates nostalgia for old school Soviet commies and German Nazis.

The Cominator says:

Yeah they don’t even have snappy uniforms…

Hesiod says:

Recent Washington Post opinion piece lambasted the Cackler for being too commie with the price control plan. That’s a bit like the Devil wagging his finger at you for sinning too much, but hey, we live in interesting times.

DH says:

If Jeff Bezos is becoming sympathetic to Thermidor, the Dems should be alarmed.

The Cominator says:

Actually what is bad for Kamala is CNN and WaPo running criticism of her over the price control commie scheme.

Bezos is not Musk and will not cross the CIA for control over WaPo. CNN and WaPo attacking Kamala over price controls is the CIA attacking Kamala over price controls…

Hesiod says:

Well said. More cracks, the merrier when it comes to Narrative cohesion.

jim says:

The radical left is ever more radical. Which gets in the way of its desire to conquer the world. It has destroyed the American economy, and is lying to itself and the world about the wealth of the West. You can see from ten thousand feet that there is something terribly fake about western GDP figures. The west has been getting slowly poorer since 1980, and rapidly poorer in recent years. This subjective and anecdotal observation has been confirmed by western incapacity to match Russian logistics. This is the same dispute as the dispute between Stalin and Trotsky. Trotsky just hated Russia and ordinary Russians, wanted to just get rid of them all, wanted to somehow to make them not be around any more. Stalin just did not like this. He wanted to Make Russia Great Again.

Kamala price control would be the same disaster as price control always has been. Which would not trouble our rulers absent any external threat, but faced with external defeat and collapse of empire, troubles them considerably.

Make America Great Again appeals to the Jews, who have suddenly discovered that being simultaneously white, non white, and part of the get Whitey coalition is not only pissing off the Radical Right, but is also failing to impress the radical left. If the American Empire goes down, so does Israel. Which Soros is fine with, but a whole lot of powerful Jews are not fine with. They don’t like us, they don’t like Trump, but they suddenly realise they need us and Trump.

Jehu says:

No snazzy uniforms, no cool music or impressive parades. But more importantly, no clean streets, suppression of street crime—No Order.

Hesiod says:

Big Mike’s wife recently tweeted out an interesting list of books (hat-tip to AC):

https://archive.ph/OTKEP

Titles that stand out: Headshot, Martyr!, and Help Wanted.

Pax Imperialis says:

Why do people homosex and continue to homosex when unlike classic sex it really doesn’t provide any benefits for the individuals to offset the costs… oh sorry, what were we talking about? Right, leftism tickles the prostate metaphorical ape hindbrain. When they intellectually prolapse all over civilization, well, clearly that’s just stunning and brave.

Anyways, I’ve been revisiting some of the older NRx haunts. Came across this 2015 comment.

jews, the ultimate sacred cow, those that oppose them, the lowest of backwards trash. jews! the very word seems to set the teeth on edge, the pupils dilating, spine tingling, gut coiling, regardless of what one otherwise thinks of them or ones position on the political polygon. people dont want to talk about them, dont even want to think about them. i dare say the word jew is perhaps the ultimate fnord in this day and age.

Still true mostly though rapidly diminishing. It’s interesting to see how the Puritan Thesis, or Ultracalvinist Hypothesis, has solidified into something closer to consensus (I admit it’s hard to measure these things). The spirit of Harvard marches on, further and beyond, in spite of rapid and sudden declines in Jewish influence. Really, it’s only the outer party that likes Jews these days along with a few geriatric Democrat holdouts. So unfashionable among the hip new inner party.

Enlisted sort their problems out by talking, then fighting, then elevating to higher. Officers, nearly all of them these days, immediately resort to administrative processes. I doubt anything would function if the enlisted behaved like Officers. Back during the Vietnam War, Officers could directly call fire support missions. In Afghanistan such calls would have to be routed all the way up to some general in the Pentagon before being routed all the way back down. For all the talk about maneuver warfare and out cycling the enemy, Officers seem to enjoy going the other direction despite professing adoration to the dogma of MCDP 1 Warfighting. I’m convinced no one actually reads that. In fact, I doubt most military publications are read. This is a deep dark secret sin I confess to as well.

To answer the anon who asked me about books/manuals recommendations on war, all I can say is that sweaty, brutal, bloody experience tends to be the primary teacher for a reason. Contrary to the popular phrase,’war never changes’, war changes often. The best teacher outside of the enemy tend to be from master to apprentice. There’s a certain physicality that really can’t be read, but if you’re interesting in a more philosophical understanding of war, well Clausewitz is not terrible. Clausewitz was good at describing a certain type of war, the American mistranslated of him really good at describing a 20th century progressive war. I suspect it would hold up for the potential wars coming. For that you might need to source something a bit more Biblical.

jim says:

> For that you might need to source something a bit more Biblical.

I expect that every person and every vehicle everywhere will need an IFF. And if it has the wrong IFF code, kos.

Pax Imperialis says:

Kill on sight is very hard to justify (or even implement) if war is merely understood as a matter of ‘policy’. ‘Policy’, a pure good in the utopian sense, is of course existing with no relation whatsoever to the evil of ‘politics’. Much similar to how democracy is good and politics are bad. In order to kos the wrong IFF code, would need to be willing to go Biblical. War not as ‘policy’ but as holy purpose.

DH says:

War not as ‘policy’ but as holy purpose.

War makes the friend/enemy distinction crystal clear, and what starts out as a mere coup is likely to culminate in a full on Jihad. Coup means Protestant Brazil, while Jihad means white ethno-states with a bishop and a king. Thermidor thinks that Protestant Brazil (a race-blind “meritocracy” with a WASP-Ashkenazi-Han ruling class and shitskin lower class and nobody’s allowed to notice anything) and 1980 leftism are the destination, but war is unpredictable and is likely to summon an incarnation of Wotan, who would probably have a different plan in store.

Pax Imperialis says:

War doesn’t always make the spirit of the enemy crystal clear. During the early phase of the American civil war, the South could have marched all the way to DC, even Boston, and burnt it to the ground, but they didn’t. The North saw the conflict as an existential crisis of the union, the South as merely affirming their natural right to leave. The South lost.

There are many examples of misunderstanding the enemy, and consequentially the US has lost every major war since 1945 as a result.

The most egregious example was Afghanistan where Americans saw the enemy as also their misbegotten adoptive child to whom they could teach progressivism to. The friend/enemy distinction was never make clear to the American. It was extremely clear to the Afghan.

DH says:

Okay, good corrections.

My point is, in the American context a Jihad (rather than a mere coup) will sort out the situation.

Europeans have an advantage here: they can tell pretty easily who is a native and who is a foreigner, and once the coup is complete and the traitorous wicked elite is out of power, Europeans will immediately and instinctively know who gets to stay and who has to be “physically removed.” In the violent phase of the coup, all of the different parties — Muslims, Jews, Hindus, etc. — will be treated on an “Are you with us or are you against us?” basis. Afterwards, a peaceful resolution will include mass deportations, though many foreigners will self-deport “voluntarily.” Europeans have distinct nationalisms, which are synthetic tribes (rooted in biology and religion), and perhaps with the exception of France, not a particularly long history with brownification.

Eastern Europe might not even require true coups – their nationalisms and demographics (in terms of homogeneity, not reproduction) are solid for the most part, and once Babylon falls or loosens its grip, they will naturally gravitate to Orthodox Russia. Heck, even Viktor Orban banned the Soros NGOs and gender studies.

In America it’s different due to heavy mongrelization and intermingling; the 1965 Hart-Celler turbo-kikery in particular (plus all of the free range pavement apes) has rendered it indispensable to, as you say, engage in holy war rather than in policy war. If, resisting the white genocide, white Christian Nationalists go to holy war, need a war leader who worships Christ and channels Odin, and he is likely to sort out the friend/enemy problem in such a manner that (and with such methods as) Thermidor might not necessarily approve, oy gevalt. In a real, absolute, and holy war, rather than a mere coup against a dominant elite faction a la Thermidor, there is indeed clarity of Biblical proportions, so to speak. A coup against Harvard is likely to go Biblical, that is, far beyond Thermidor’s original intentions (1980s leftist race-blind meritocracy), and if it does, if the coup naturally progresses to Jihad, one need not worry about distinguishing enemies from friends – the holy battlefield will rapidly and painfully provide the answers and dispel the errors.

Varna says:

> Eastern Europe might not even require true coups – their nationalisms and demographics (in terms of homogeneity, not reproduction) are solid for the most part, and once Babylon falls or loosens its grip, they will naturally gravitate to Orthodox Russia. Heck, even Viktor Orban banned the Soros NGOs and gender studies.

Just to throw in a broad summery/system of viewing the Eastern Whitey.

If you look at a map of Europe from 1900, there are no EE countries, except on the Balkans. If you look at a map of Europe from 1870, there are no EE countries full stop.

Today’s EE nations are all former subjects of a) Turkey, b) Russia, c) Austria. And around the Baltic sea some former Prussia territories.

On the borders between the Romanov Empire, the Habsburg Empire and the House of Osman, territories switched hands frequently, but for most places it can be broadly said that for most of the time they belonged to one of the three more than to the other two.

Habsburgs: Slovakia, Slovenia, Croatia, Czech republic, Hungary, parts of Romania, parts of Ukraine.

Romanovs: Finland, Poland, Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, Moldova, Belarus, the Ukraine. Alaska, California (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fort_Ross,_California).

Osman: Greece, Cyprus, Serbia, Bosnia, Albania, Montenegro, Macedonia, Bulgaria, Romania, parts of Hungary and Moldova.

While the western, mostly Germanic whitey was doing his thing, the eastern, mostly Slavic whitey, was having things done to him.

Also a loose hierarchy “whose master was better”. Those who were mostly held by Turks hate Turks, are on the fence about Russia and maybe even a bit pro-Russia, and fervently believe that “Austria was the best master”, which today translates into “Europe is the cat’s pajamas”, as a sort of way to fix a historical injustice “we should have had Austrian masters, not Turkish masters.”

Those whose main master was Russia, don’t care about the Turks mostly, tend to hate Russia fervently (unless they are pure Russians like inn Belarus) and are afraid of her, and also believe that the Austrian master was best, and today is their chance to finally “become Europeans”.

Those whose actual master was Austrian, are the “house niggers” who feel superior to the field niggers “yeah bitches, my master was way better that yours, look at all my fancy architecture and the beer I can brew”.
Hence EE being “the butthurt belt”, according to some online humorists.

The Eastern Whitey was the original “slave race” to both Germanic whites and various Asiatics.. It took accepting leadership from the Rus vikings (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Varangians) and in the south from the Bulgar horse tribes (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asparuh_of_Bulgaria), to start turning into nations that hit back.

> slave (n.) c. 1300, sclave, esclave, “person who is the chattel or property of another,” from Old French esclave (13c.) and directly from Medieval Latin Sclavus “slave” (source also of Italian schiavo, French esclave, Spanish esclavo), originally “Slav” (see Slav); so used in this secondary sense because of the many Slavs sold into slavery by conquering peoples. The oldest written history of the Slavs can be shortly summarised–myriads of slave hunts and the enthralment of entire peoples. The Slav was the most prized of human goods. With increased strength outside his marshy land of origin, hardened to the utmost against all privation, industrious, content with little, good-humoured, and cheerful, he filled the slave markets of Europe, Asia, and Africa. It must be remembered that for every Slavonic slave who reached his destination, at least ten succumbed to inhuman treatment during transport and to the heat of the climate. Indeed IbrāhÄ«m (tenth century), himself in all probability a slave dealer, says: “And the Slavs cannot travel to Lombardy on account of the heat which is fatal to them.” Hence their high price.
https://www.etymonline.com/word/slave

From the point of view of the true Anglo-Germanic racist purist, the Irish, the Italians and Spaniard, Greeks and most of all Slavs are all grotesque parodies of true humanity. Today to be found in the writing on Amerika.org

Hence also the major Hitlerist genocidal plan was not the imaginary six gorillion, but the quite real Generalplan Ost (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generalplan_Ost) for the extermination and ethnic cleansing of the Slavs so that the German can live in a serene rural utopia as landed gentry served by illiterate slavic survivors.

Due to his fetishization of the “Austrian master”, Slavs find it very difficult to hang on the concept of the Germanic master who planned to exterminate them. It must be some sort of misunderstanding and disinformation by Bolsheviks.

Later, after WWII, all of EE became “Russian” in the sense of under the direct control or indirect influence of Moscow, part of the Eastern Block until circa 1990.

Combining the Cold War 1 internationalist anti-colonial themes, with the Eastern Whitey himself being everybody’s plaything not to mention getting his own nation state just a little while ago, you get strong support for the global south anti-colonialism struggles that started after WWII and culminated around the mid-1970s. Even Portugal and Spain had their African Vietnams, not to mention the French, the Brits, the Dutch and others.

(Reminder, the first truly post-colonial decade for the West and the rest is the 1980s, make of that what you will)

Today the Eastern whitey is being seduced by a broader white identity, in the sense of “we white people invented everything and conquered the world”, without realizing what a poison pill this is, and how if he truly decides to pretend he is in fact a Germanic or Mediterranean white, he gets a pat on the head and then instantly infinity niggers and dismantling of society to pay for his alleged historical crimes against the world.

The trap the Irish fell into just recently. Also everybody’s victim for all of history, never colonized a square inch, everybody kicks the shit out of them, circa the year 2000 started being treated like “proper whites”, by 2020 it was time for ethnic cleansing and cultural genocide overdrive.

Summary: EE used to be divided between the Turkish master, the Russian master, and the Austrian master.

No one wants back to the Turkish master (although the Albanians and some Bosnians would likely would enjoy some mutual support thing), there is some nostalgia for the Russian master, which blurs into nostalgia for Soviet times when there was no drugs and porn, men were men and women were women, you could leave your door unlocked and your body didn’t hurt and your boners lasted all night etc, but most of the pining is for the real and imaginary “Austrian master”, today personified by the EU.

Hungary used to be an equal partner in what in the final century was called the “Austro-Hungarian empire”, plus are not Slavs originally, which gives them the historical status to play their cards the way they do today. They used to be kungz for real.

If the west keeps going the way its going, while Russia goes its Eurasian way and the global south does its global south thing, EE may well consolidate into a separate cultural space, nominally part of the west, but in practice something like an internal Byzantium, which may not be capable of great innovation, but can keep a lowkey flame of civilization going while everybody else goes dark age.

If not wiped out by some engineered pandemic, or vax campaign, or nukes, or other external calamities.

DH says:

most of the pining is for the real and imaginary “Austrian master”, today personified by the EU.

The increasing stupidity, insanity, and wickedness of Washington is changing that, but yes, they (and the rest of Europe) will need to see the Zelensky regime defeated before their preference demonstrably switches from Globohomo to Putin. War is the final arbiter of human politics.

If the west keeps going the way its going, while Russia goes its Eurasian way and the global south does its global south thing, EE may well consolidate into a separate cultural space, nominally part of the west, but in practice something like an internal Byzantium, which may not be capable of great innovation, but can keep a lowkey flame of civilization going while everybody else goes dark age.

Nah, Putin is offering them a better deal than that, and if he actually follows through with Dugin’s Eurasianism, will offer them a considerably better deal in the future. Why be satisfied with “a lowkey flame of civilization” when you can partake of real civilization?

Upravda says:

🙂

There is some truth in your words. The Habsburg Effect is still visible today, after all: ” Research suggests that people living in areas that were once part of the Habsburg Empire exhibit higher trust in courts and police, as well as lower levels of corruption.”

And one can really observe that effect, across few decades of everyday life, in Serbs from Vojvodina vs Serbs from Serbia proper, and also among Croats: the effect is the strongest among non-Dalmatian Croats, weaker in Dalmatia and Dubrovnik, and the weakest among BiH Croats.

In a way, Habsburgs actually were the the good masters (for Catholics and Orthodox, at least). Habsburg bureaucracy is considered among modern historians as one of the most honest… ever and everywhere. Recently, driving back from the vacations on the Adriatic littoral, I turned from overwhelmed modern Autobahn to the old road, asphalted during comrades’ rule. Asphalted over old paved Habsburg roads, with stone guardrails still standing here and there – right from the imperial times! Those roads were the first built here since Roman era.

And my folks, and our Slovenian neighbors at least, really do have what I call Habsburg bias (something like your Normalcy bias): the tendency to look at modern EU-politicians as some incarnation of good Habsburg rulers in the past. So, there’s the bias to see Frau von der Lügen as some kind of Maria Theresa and that idiot Josep as Joseph II, and tendency to un-see their demon-worshiping.

But, there was Eastern Europe before the Age of Empires you talk about. There was Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth for many centuries, one of the most prominent fighters against Ottomans. Serb Orthodox Church is older than the Russian one. Croatian Sabor is probably older than the English parliament with uninterrupted existence till present. Nether Croats, nor Serbs, nor Poles, nor Czechs and old Moravians needed any foreign elite to establish their own kingdoms that lasted for centuries and millennia in some cases.

And, no, word Slav does not come from “slave”, just as Gauls do not actually have any connection with “gallus”. “Slav” comes from older native variant “Sloven” meaning something like “speaker” as opposed to, say, “Nijemac” (German) as fellow who is mute (“nijem”), so not a speaker. Word has the same root as “slovo” (letter) and is still retained as a name of the Slovenian and Slovak nation (“Slovenec” i “Slovenka”, such as Ms. Trump, and “Slovak” and “Slovenka”) and in Croatian region of Slavonija.

Mayflower Sperg says:

How would Eastern Europe keep the flame of civilization going when these countries have some of the lowest birthrates and fastest-falling populations in the world? Church is a place for old people to ask God to please let them into heaven; this world doesn’t matter if your grandchildren will not inhabit it. And letting men beat their wives doesn’t help if women have the option of not marrying.

Cloudswrest says:

How about license plates that automatically broadcast your registration and VIN whenever they sense a transponder. Not in the database? KOS

Anonymous Fake says:

[*payload deleted*]

jim says:

The payload being that totalitarianism and genocide of whites is not oppression from on top, but what white people spontaneously demand, because is so nice.

Anonymous Fake says:

If totalitarianism is accompanied by a grading and merit system, Asians and Caucasians will rush to it like Hunter Biden to crack. [*deleted*]

jim says:

This is the totalitarianism of social credit and “nudge”, that totalitarian terror can be soft, nice, pleasant, and popular.

They tried this during covid. “Nudge” in practice looked more like hitting people in the face with a bludgeon than nudging them.

The collapse of the blue cities gives the lie to all the left’s claims of good intentions and good management. You are giving us the left’s self image, which self image becomes ever more obviously detached from reality.

notglowing says:

I expect that every person and every vehicle everywhere will need an IFF.

Many on the right would likely see such a thing as the “mark of the devil”

jim says:

Old and New Testaments are perfectly clear that for the government to track people in detail is gravely wrong.

In principle, an IFF could simply authenticate “friend” without specifying exactly which friend out of millions. And this would not violate the principles of the Old and New Testaments. But if it did identify exactly which friend, this would be contrary to Biblical commands.

I think the right would be untroubled by a Biblicaly correct IFF.

Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

I’m reminded of the Salesforce ads that have been running on tv and streaming sites lately. “Don’t let bad guy AI steal your data; use Salesforce who pinkeypromises to never grep your datas.”

If you don’t have control over the programs and the hardware they run on, then your datas will be grepped – and more besides.

Cloudswrest says:

for the government to track people in detail is gravely wrong.

This kind of reminds me of gasoline/fuel taxes, paid at the pump. Assuming the premise they are used for road construction and maintenance, these taxes are somewhat fair and anonymous. Heavier vehicles, that tend to cause more wear on the road, get less mileage, so they pay more fuel taxes per mile.

Now the point I’m getting to is currently, EVs pay no fuel taxes. Since they are no longer boutique, governments are starting to complain EV drivers are not paying their “fare share” and are talking about monitoring their mileage to tax them directly. The pretense of EV road taxes are basically the camel’s nose under the tent for intrusive government monitoring of drivers.

Hesiod says:

Speaking of literature, started on Lind’s Victoria last night to refresh. Not far yet but finding an earlier foray into Xenophon’s Cyropaedia allows for easier going as characters are vehicles for theory in Lind’s narrative. So, not exactly a page-turner for character development, though still fascinating for concepts and modeling.

There’s an amusing little dig at Trump as well that has aged as well as one’s personal opinion of the man dictates.

Fav passage so far (narrator speaking): “You see, sometime around the middle of the 18th century, we men of the West struck a Faust’s bargain with the Devil. We could do anything, have anything, say anything, with one exception. We could not tarry, we could not rest, we could not get it right and then keep it that way. Always we must have something new: that was the bargain, and ultimately the reason we pulled our house around us.”

This fetish for the new has struck me as troubling ever since I began critiquing pop culture as a young lad, however clumsily I could articulate something instinctual. The past seemed such a treasure trove, yet it was mostly treated as rubbish.

Fake says:

My favorite line in Victoria is the only dialogue from a female non-villian character: “I know my place.”

Hesiod says:

Sounds like the wife of the retroculture 1940s family. She voices the hollowness of women striving outside the home, rightly reserving that sphere for men. For her, her family is her primary duty and privilege, her telos. Community building through volunteer church work is the secondary role for women. That’s families and neighbors building basic bonds.

Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

Whoever wrote that sounds like a handsome urbane fellow for sure.

Incidentally, one of the other sides of this coin is that the festivities in Gaza may serve also to illustrate yet another vindication of Elite Theory of History; support for dunecoons is nigh universal amongst the bluecult laity – and yet, none of it has resulted in any policy change with respect to Israel heretofore.

One of the biggest strategic mistakes the likudniks made was that they failed to provide an ‘offramp’ that would allow people to make a rhetorical distinction between ‘the good ones’ and ‘the terrorists’. Id est, set up ‘relief camps’ to process large numbers of people, put Gaza under siege, say ‘everyone who does not want to starve come over for processing’, and *then* start flattening city blocks.

This One Weird Trick provides an easy and instantaneous rejoinder to any backdraft. Eg, “Innocents are being bombed” – “If they were really innocent they would not have stayed in the war zone”; “Israel is starving the people of Gaza” – “Israel is feeding the people of Gaza, only the bad guys or bad guy sympathizers would refuse to go into custody”; et cetera et cetera.

By *not* doing this they basically erase this valence and put ‘terrorist’ and ‘innocent’ all in the same basket – which may still arguably be apropos on balance for Israel’s ultimate racial interests anyways, but it also obliges any observers to answer ‘pally genocide best day of my life yes or no?’, which most GAE subjects will balk at.

So it has absolutely been causing them trouble… but something else that was also discussed at the time, was that Netanyahu may above all be counting on ‘running out the clock’; that while everyone continues to argue, he continues to bomb, and that in the end, Gaza will eventually be cooked anyways.

And, several months later, it looks like that eventuality is on track.

The sphere of conflict may well continue to expand and entangle more parties, now that Lebanon is getting in on the fun too (though Iran, like Russia, has been shamefully reticent about striking blows against their enemies, even and especially when it is their abiding interest to so do[1]); but whatever the results in the end, it may well be that ‘Palestine’ as such won’t be around to see it either.

[1]A lot of high skrewel history is filled with ‘and then so and so went to war with such and such for no good reason’; I would hazard to say that the current state of rulership around the globe has had significant influence by a form of ‘learned helplessness’ over the years of Washington hegemony; conflicts happening anywhere means opportunities for Washington to involve itself anywhere – and Heaven help you if you try to pretend to be a sovereign country and use kinetic solutions on your own initiative for your nation’s interests without waiting to be used as a sacrificial pawn by Washington for some gay geopolitical masturbation, then you are a ‘warmonger’ and, of course, yet another excuse to involve itself anyways. ‘Pax Americana’ indeed.

The Cominator says:

Trump bringing Corey Lewandowski back in is a good sign he is less likely to be caught flat footed by massive vote fraud this time… the registration numbers in PA look good and Shapiro’s incentive is to sabotage Kamala… similar positive developments in Georgia and Nevada.

Arizona and Wisconsin look like the enemy are in control but if he has PA+Georgia and Nevada he doesn’t need Arizona and Wisconsin.

jim says:

> Trump bringing Corey Lewandowski back in is a good sign

It is amazing how many vague, frivolous, trivial, and ambiguous crimes Corey has been charged with by justice system far to busy to bother itself with things like brown people robbing and murdering white people.

He left the job because the deep state was engaging in lawfare against him. It was leave Trump or go to jail. That he is coming back is a big white pill.

Ryan says:

Excluding crypto, what are everyone’s top investment suggestions?
Hopefully those here have less normalcy bias than most analysts, and will dare to consider extreme events and heretical ideas like the US losing wars or going broke.

Investing in real things like gold mines and rental property funds around the world seems like the best bet (with a highly diversified approach).

What commodities might spike or tank? Which countries will do well or badly? Places with low debt and minimal US entanglement seem like good bets.

Nvidia seems like it will do well if/until the AI bubble pops which could be years out, but it might be too late already. Small allocations to ‘next big thing’ assetscould make sense if we have better foresight than most.

The Cominator says:

Nothing has really worked since around mid 2021, before then I couldn’t lose money and a lot of high iq people I knew couldn’t lose money. Selling covered calls was like a Henry Hill racket (remember the ending monologue in Goodfellas where he said he never worried about spending his money if he was broke it didn’t matter, didn’t mean anything)… you didn’t even need to preserve your stash it was like purely generating huge amounts of spending money almost every few weeks even if you missed the truly big early crypto trains and the gamestop train. Nobody has been able to make money since then as an outsider… if that AI defense drone company ever goes public buy them at any price. But its very very hard to make sound investments in a generally shrinking economy presided over a system that is not only corrupt but also insane.

Karl says:

It is getting more and more difficult to transfer funds via the banking system around the world. Investing around the world has an even greater risk. Depending on your residence and/or citizenship your assets will be stolen in increasingly large parts of the world.

If you live anywhere in the West, the risk of asset seizures increases both at home and abroad.

Ryan says:

Do you mean that say the US government will steal foreign assets from its citizens (beyond the existing taxes), or that say Argentina will confiscate and stocks owned by foreigners?

Karl says:

Both, although it is difficult for the US government to seize assets outside of the GAE.

Fake says:

In an inflationary environment, stocks don’t do as well as commodities or real estate. Use your jimian sense to determine how much you trust official inflation rates, or just check if Blackrock is still muscling families out of the home-buying market. I’m reminded of the youtuber who found his Walmart online grocery order from preCovid, which was something like $112 and when he reordered that same basket, it was >$400.

A strategy I heard worked well is to keep tabs on which companies announce dei initiatives and buy stock in their competitors. Maybe The Cominator has experience with that.

The Cominator says:

Before everything was ruined the best thing to do generally was find high volatility stocks where the underlying business was actually growing (my favorite was MARA a crypto miner) and sell covered calls. Most months you made 20% on your money doing this, occasionally you had to buy back your calls or let them be called away and wait for a mean reversion… that is all over now because the fucking Democrats ruined the market.

Fidelis says:

How much money do you have and what are you trying to do with it? Use gold to breed more gold? Do you like large speculative bets? Slow patient investments? What is your timescale?

If you are truly burdened with a bank account you cannot spend down, why not invest in young talent. Directly. Why not join a small town, and throw parties for the local police, make sure they know your face and name, and you theirs. Nudge and bribe the local politicians and bureaucrats. Buy up property, build a nice church.

Or did you just want to hear “North Macedonia is so underpriced right now buy up everything you can before everyone else finds out!” So you can buy some nominal titles to run down houses in a dyning country, but at least it’s not directly in the GAE!, in the vague hopes you can dump it on some sucker for a higher number? And then what?

Ryan says:

Enough that I can easily support myself at 5% interest (although 10% ROI is feasible). Not nearly enough to take over a town.

UK taxes are pretty high, and things are likely to get bad here pretty quickly. I’ll probably need to relocate eventually, but all the good polities are speedrunning suicide through migration.

In the meantime, I need wealth which won’t be wiped out by GAE retardation (inflation, fake economy, wars etc). Any growth is obviously good, and is required to counteract inflation.

jim says:

Dubai.

If you have substantial assets in Britain, you need to move your wealth to Dubai. Everyone is doing it.

Ryan says:

What do you mean more specifically?
Buying property in Dubai? Investing in their economy? Getting bonds or or shares held in custody by Dubai banks (which could originate from any country)?

I would appreciate if you could write about specific threats to freedom and wealth, and possible countermeasures. I’m blessed to have a good wife and children (thanks for tips on physical chastisement), and can’t effect governmental policy, so this is the area I need to focus on currently.

jim says:

What English people tend to do is move to Dubai for tax exempt status and to avoid political risk.

I am not saying that putting your money in Dubai assets is a good idea. I am saying that if you have a lot of money, it is a good idea to arrange your affairs so that non Dubai governmental or quasi governmental persons cannot grab your assets.

If you reside in England, likely to tax the stuffing out of you, and when everything falls apart, likely to just grab it. When the proverbial hits the fan, no end of people are just going grab anything that can be grabbed and arbitrarily harm the previous possessors. No end of people who cannot be predicted are going to grab anything grabbable in no end of ways that cannot be predicted. They are also likely to engage in random terror against people who seem to them to be strangely well off in an effort to shake stealable stuff into sight.

In Dubai, you can invest in Dubai, or anywhere else in the world, including in businesses that you would not be able to invest in while residing in England.

So I am not saying that any particular form of investment is likely to appreciate. What I am saying is that any investment made while resident in Dubai and employing Dubai institutions faces lower political risk than almost anywhere else, and you are going to discover freedom to invest in a whole lot of stuff that you have no way of investing in when your money and your residence is in England and you are attempting to invest through English institutions.

Ryan says:

Thanks. Is Dubai better than places like the Caymans or Switzerland? I’m sure it’s a good option. If GAE or others start invading other nations to loot their stuff, then it should be important to be based somewhere under the protection of a relatively sane and powerful regional power.

jim says:

Switzerland has not been a safe place for money for a long time.

Cloudswrest says:

Michael Dell published a short blurb on Linkedin about something he refers to as “Sovereign AI”. The only interesting part is the definition, excerpted below. “Sovereign AI” is basically AI developed by agents outside the influence of the GAE. Ie developed by non-GAE sovereign entities, trained with different, non-GAE, value systems. I can see where this would be a vector of attack against GAE influence, just like independent media.

Sovereign AI is a hot topic, and for good reason. AI has the power to unleash data and drive human progress across every dimension from economic growth to public welfare to scientific discovery.

But AI has to be trained to understand our laws and regulations, our ethics and morals. Increasingly, nations are looking to capture their language, cultures, and data within their own Sovereign AI models. I’m hearing about Sovereign AI in the public and private sectors, in meetings with our customers and partners, and certainly in the news. Let’s take a step back and ask ourselves what we are talking about when it comes to Sovereign AI.

Sovereign AI refers to a nation’s capability to produce artificial intelligence using its own infrastructure and data.

DH says:

Progressives can’t afford to allow AI to help disrupt their memetic sovereignty, and the eye of Sauron is likely to fall on AI soon enough and turn it into the new Global Warming. But it seems that Musk is a few steps ahead of them on that front. AI is a battlefront that Thermidor is winning, but in my view that’s a tactical rather than a strategic victory, and Progs would rather lose the internet than lose on the internet, so expect them to accelerate on abolition of civilization, first by collapsing the economy and then through hot white genocide.

Fidelis says:

Current LLMs and foundation models in general improve along a log curve. You can get performance of the very large and soon to be even larger models with a modest gpu cluster — modest in the sense of nation scale activities, anyway. The biggest capex is human capital, competent programmers, and the internet and programming cultures being what they are, we will more likely than not end up with two large ecosystems in the medium term. The Chinese and the Anglo.

In the longer term I expect very strange ecosystems of human organizations and neural network constructs that don’t reflect the current world power balance well at all. People self sort and join groups that then feedback loop into new ideologies which manifest into new folkways. You add in the enhanced organizational capacity of a corporation formed by the best contract system ever invented and the animated spirit of a collective human mind, and now we have something that replaces the order of the nation state. Nation states came about as a result of standardization of language and printing and bureaucratic order, and the next stage will come about as a result of the standardization of human interfaces with collective knowledge and programmatic order.

Pax Imperialis says:

Would like some guidance on theology. I’m suspicious of Calvinism, and especially suspicious of Total Depravity and Eternal Security beliefs which are fairly common among mainline American churches. I also find Jude to be suspicious. It seems clear to me that salvation is conditional, and while man may stray into sin, salvation remains on the table with repenting.

God also gives man the ability to choose for he has given man reason and will. It must be reasoned that God has reason and will and thus can use reason to enact God’s will. Otherwise talk of pruning and stewardship and shepherding would make no sense as any action would be purely arbitrary if there even is action. Nor would giving Adam, or any of God’s followers, a choice make sense. Free will must exist, and more so we have free will because we are created in both the image God who has free will.

Where I’m going with this is that while no one can “snatch” (The Greek uses the language in the context of how a wolf might snatch prey… in essence abduction) the faithful from God as per John 10:28, there’s nothing stopping man from simply walking away from God. Indeed the Bible warns against this multiple times even among those who “who have consciously tasted the heavenly gift and have become sharers of the Holy Spirit” Hebrews 6:4-8. If even those who are saved can lose salvation, then the argument that ‘apostasy is proof of never having been saved in the first place’ falls apart. Granted Paul, as are all apostles, are men, not God, and hence fallible. Judas the prime example, but even apostles understood to be in good standing such as seen in Galatians 2:11-16 can be fallible as pointed out by the apostles.

So what does God, not the apostates, directly say about salvation? Can those who were saved fall? Can those who fell after being saved (apostates) return to salvation?

jim says:

The bible is full of deliberate contradictions — and Paul is full of deliberate contradictions.

If you grab one end of a contradiction and run with it, you will inevitably fall into heresy.

Total Depravity and Eternal Security are one end of a Pauline contradiction. And if you run with that end, you get antinomianism, which just about everyone agrees is heresy.

The other end of the contradiction is First Epistle to the Corinthians chapter six.

Pax Imperialis says:

The Bible is undermined the notion of contradiction. It is used to ‘prove’ logical inconsistencies. Instead we must read it as providing lateral limits rather than as ‘contradiction’. i.e. There is a time to “not answer a fool according to his folly” and there is a time to ““answer a fool according to his folly”. Better yet, understood as metaphorical guard rails, lateral limits, on the stairs to heaven. One must stay between them least one fall. This removes ‘contradiction’ and introduces ‘mystery’ which I feel on an intuitive level is why Orthodoxy is in generally better shape than Protestantism.

I’m sure there’s a ‘guard rail’ doctrine already out there done by someone far more elegant and intelligent than me, but I’m struggling to find it. I’m aware that grabbing one end of ‘contradiction’ and running with it results in heresy, but am having difficulty proving it from scripture, and even more difficulty convincing others of it. Which is why I came here asking for direction to scripture or even correction.

jim says:

> I’m sure there’s a ‘guard rail’ doctrine already out there done by someone far more elegant and intelligent than me, but I’m struggling to find it.

This has been a problem for the Protestant Revolution from day one, and rivers of ink have been spilled over it, not to mention lots of Martin Luther’s famous invective.

Pelagianism is the heresy you get by running with one end of the contradiction, antinomianism the heresy you get by running with the other.

The protestant position is alarmingly close to antinomianism, and very far from pelagianism. Nonetheless, whenever it threatens to turn into antinomianism, there is pushback.

Brittanica has a good summary.

We don’t have any bright line stop point between the doctrine of grace, and the heresy of antinomianism. Logic fails.

Coming to Christianity from the Dark Enlightenment, this does not bother me much. The Dark Enlightenment position is that to attain cooperate/cooperate equilibrium we need credible commitment to good conduct. Obviously Christianity should be a strong predictor of good conduct, in which case Christians have to reject “Christians” who engage in bad conduct as not, in fact, Christian. They “Shall not inherit the Kingdom of heaven”.

On the other hand, the Dark Enlightenment says that because of imperfect information, need a strategy of one tit for two tats, rather than tit for tat, and the doctrine of grace is that we receive similar divine forgiveness. “forgive us our trespasses, as we forgive those who trespass against us,and lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil.”

Peace on earth to men of good will. A second cheek and a second mile, but not unlimited cheeks and unlimited miles. First Epistle to the Corinthians, Chapter six, implies that divine forgiveness also has limits. But if there was any bright line for those limits, this would lead to Jewish legalism.

alf says:

On the other hand, the Dark Enlightenment says that because of imperfect information, need a strategy of one tit for two tats, rather than tit for tat

It always amazes me that for all our talk of dark enlightenment, owning women, slaughtering your enemies, that game theory wise, we conclude that the optimum strategy is still tit for two tats. Crazy that that works best, not just from a Christian perspective, as in what Jesus taught, but also from a game theory perspective, as in that’s what makes you win most.

It’s not a conclusion everyone arrives at easily. this video delves into the background and research of the original prisoner dilemma academics, and that video concludes that tit for tat is the best strategy — an eye for an eye, old testament. But that’s just not how history turned out.

Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

To be fair, eye for an eye is still categorically closer to tit for two tats than no tit for infinite tats.

alf says:

Totally. Tit for tat works, even if tit for two tats works better. But no tit for infinite tats is a suicidal holiness spiral.

Ryan says:

One tit for two tats is best when there is uncertainty about the intentions of the other party, and you may be able to cooperate in the long term. Where an enemy has made it clear they mean you harm, you need to neutralize them, which isn’t possible in the simple prisoner’s dilemma.

TheDividualist says:

No, they used to run algorithm competitions and “tit for tat, but occasionally offer a truce, a resumption of cooperation with the uncooperative ” won.

It was not quite exactly one extra mile, but one extra mile per 100 none, a classic truce: “are you tired of fighting yet?”

alf says:

1.1 tit for tat is hardly two tits for tat, even if it carefully veers in the right direction.

A2 says:

For better or worse, tit for tat is outmoded.

Iterated Prisoner’s Dilemma contains strategies that dominate any evolutionary opponent (Press & Dyson)

https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.1206569109

It is generally assumed that there exists no simple ultimatum strategy whereby one player can enforce a unilateral claim to an unfair share of rewards. Here, we show that such strategies unexpectedly do exist. In particular, a player X who is witting of these strategies can (i) deterministically set her opponent Y’s score, independently of his strategy or response, or (ii) enforce an extortionate linear relation between her and his scores. Against such a player, an evolutionary player’s best response is to accede to the extortion. Only a player with a theory of mind about his opponent can do better, in which case Iterated Prisoner’s Dilemma is an Ultimatum Game.

jim says:

This paper is fallacious — it starts with a proof that long term memory is no advantage, which is obviously silly.

It models the target being manipulated as manipulable — thus the demonstration is circular.

On the other hand, the conclusion — that iterated prisoner’s dilemma is equivalent to the ultimatum game is trivially correct. You have to agree on rules for cooperation, and agreement on the rules is an ultimatum game.

A2 says:

I’m unable to check because knocked over, but the authors discuss this in Appendix A.

Neurotoxin says:

tit for tat is outmoded.
Iterated Prisoner’s Dilemma contains strategies that dominate any evolutionary opponent

I’ve read – okay, skimmed – the paper. It says, essentially, that a human can out-play an animal in the repeated Pris. Dilem. It is not interesting.

The Cominator says:

Why do you object to Total Depravity? Doesn’t plain reason teach you that man without the reward and punishment structure of civilization is an amoral beast?

Niiiidriveevof says:

One may as well say that man is an amoral beast because of the example of feral children without parents or society. As parenting both arises from human nature and is indispensable to it, just so civilization. Civilization is not a mechanical design imposed on man like a computer program. Man isn’t a blank slate to be programmed. Those sets of rules that enable him to cooperate with others work because of who he is, so their essence is already written on his heart.

And crucially, civilization does not allow man to make man a better thing than man already is. That’s the leftist dream. Only grace can do that.

The Cominator says:

Not arguing for Tabula Rasa I’m just arguing that Total Depravity is just what Robert E Howard said, civilization is unnatural and barbarism must ultimately triumph.
> That’s the leftist dream. Only grace can do that.
Don’t think Calvin would disagree with you on this since Calvin believed in Sola Gratia… I just always thought Total Depravity was the least controversial part of TULIP and supported by plain reason.

Pseudo-Chrysostem says:

And where does that reward and punishment structure come from?

If humanoids amoral beasts, no genesis of civilization in the first place.

Pax Imperialis says:

Total Depravity says that man is an immoral sinful beast, that all man’s actions whether good or bad is tinted with sin regardless of if man is saved or not save.

This causes breakdowns in the ability to differentiate good and evil and combined with Eternal Security turns into the common heresy we see today that runs along the course of ‘Jesus freed us of sin so we can sin as much as we desire with basically no consequence’. Absolutely insane.

More over, Jesus was fully God AND fully man. Total Depravity suggests something incredibly heretical about Jesus as fully man. This, along with ideas that Jesus felt temptation, and combined with verses about how even having temptation in the heart is surmountable with committing the sin, even if the action was not carried out, implies some very bad things. Again, heresy blooms.

What fruits has Calvinism given us? Well, LGBT affirming Churches for instance…

On this blog there is much criticism of Catholicism for good reason, but we should recognize what they got right. Namely mystery. A general acceptance of gray area between polar ends within scripture.

Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

Plain reason would beg the question of where the reward and punishment structure comes from in the first place. If humanoids amoral beast, no genesis of civilization in the first place.

The Cominator says:

Initially they cooperated out of fear. Believing humans are innately good is the Enlightenment early progressive position (I’m not sure what the blue cults position on human moral predisposition is now but I’m sure its more insane) believing Total Depravity is based and redpilled the position of the Ancients Augustine and most of the other church fathers and other pre enlightenment philosophers.

jim says:

Total Depravity puts a crowbar into the spokes of those who want perfect humans in this life, and pulls the rug out of those who think that they should be on top because they are holier than you are.

It also fits well with the Dark Enlightenment position that cooperate/cooperate equilibrium is hard, a high trust society is hard, peace is hard.

However, Total Depravity does take an unduly dim view of human nature. People can, and routinely do, credibly commit to act contrary to their self interests, and then do so. Happens all the time.

Look at all the people who were threatened with many years in prison unless they testified that Trump had committed all sorts of crimes. A lot of them refused to perjure themselves and went to prison.

Total Depravity holds that no one will act like this except by divine intervention. Possibly true, but if true, a whole lot of people are receiving such divine intervention.

The Cominator says:

Better to err on the side of a dim view of human nature.

Pax Imperialis says:

Maybe, but the rotten fruits of Calvinism must make us reassess the theological reasoning. Something went really, really wrong.

If man can only make moral and good actions untainted by sin with the aid of divine intervention, then why does God test man? It implies that there were no tests because God made sure they made the right choice, which implies there is in actuality no such thing as choice, and if there’s no such thing as choice does that mean there is no choice in being saved? Total Depravity sends you down a rabbit hole that ends up unraveling the entire morality of the Bible similar to how Perpetual Virginity ends up unraveling the entirety of marriage.

The Cominator says:

Calvinism made the English the world power. Elizabethan England was Calvinist, moderately Calvinist but explicitly and formally Calvinist. If you had asked Elizabeth or any of her bishops if they considered themselves to agree with the theological ideas of John Calvin they would say yes (maybe with minor caveats but overall yes).

It was Jesuit agent Laud brining in Armianism which opened Pandora’s box and caused all the disorders within English Protestantism which just did not exist in the time of Elizabeth and James I… and blaming leftism all on Calvinism just because they centered themselves initially in New England I think is wrong for a number of reasons. And one of the things the unitarians/quakers and postcalvinist who formed at least the initial part of the progressive left did is reject the idea of Total Depravity.

jim says:

Yes, but empirically, I see good people. Total Depravity is a theological innovation, and a falsifiable claim about the world.

Jimmy says:

As a Baptist-turned-calvinist-turned-catholic, I have no problem marrying the functional parts of total depravity with those of catholic atonement theory, and even with that of the east.

The key is that no Calvinists believe that men can’t do good. A man can desire and affect good in the world all day long despite his total depravity. He just can’t affect his salvation in any way apart from the work of the Holy Ghost. In it’s bones, calvinism is gnostic-adjacent, so a Calvinist has no problem looking at a good man and seeing a depraved d beast. Makes perfect sense to him. And I don’t say that as a slight–man sees the outward appearance but God judges the heart, etc.

Good-faith calvinists are good people, as long as they don’t have political power. Same as good-faith catholics. The opposite is also true. There is no Christian tradition that can’t be worn as a cloak by bad-faith actors.

jim says:

> a Calvinist has no problem looking at a good man and seeing a depraved beast. Makes perfect sense to him. And I don’t say that as a slight–man sees the outward appearance but God judges the heart, etc.

It is not that hard to see people’s hearts, especially after they have had a few beers. I see a lot of good men, and a lot of men that need killing.

Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

>a Calvinist has no problem looking at a good man and seeing a depraved beast. Makes perfect sense to him.

Sure, but then that’s only because when the calvinist says ‘depraved beast’ it doesn’t mean the same thing as when someone else says depraved beast.

He digs himself out of the connotative pit back into functionality – or at least, arguability – by pharisaically recapitulating everything as different shades of depraved beasthood… you know, instead of just using words like ‘good’ and ‘evil’ to describe a continuum like God intended.

A radar screen blanked out by overtuning return and empty by undertuning return are both equally useless for divining.

Aidan says:

PC is right; Christ being fully man means that matter, the world, and man, are suitably noble and pure vessels for containing God. If man totally depraved, Christ totally depraved or not a man.

The sermon on the mount does not say “you are totally depraved beasts”, it implies that there is some level of inherent sin or temptation that requires divine forgiveness, and this probably varies from person to person, not worth thinking too hard about. Not so much that God cannot become man, not so little that we can arrogantly assume we are worthy of salvation.

Anonymous Fake says:

Holier people SHOULD be on top of the holiness hierarchy, just not the temporal one. Holiness spirals are not essentially wrong if they’re kept within their sphere.

The correct position on man’s nature is that man has a tendency towards sin, despite being made in the image of God. Calvinists and other protestant heretics are wrong.

Curiously enough, even nature isn’t totally depraved, as evidenced by videos of dogs selflessly breaking up cat fights. Evolution has no explanation for that.

jim says:

> Holier people SHOULD be on top of the holiness hierarchy

Holiness has to be its own reward, or else you have an army of people thinking up all sorts of clever ways to be holier than the other guy, to accomplish the greatest possible holiness with the least possible personal inconvenience.

And being on top of the hierarchy is a reward. The remarkably holy should get something like a hermitage in the outer Hebrides, as far from the corridors of power as you can get.

Hesiod says:

If a king is too holy to curse his foe as a damned whoreson to his face before cleaving his skull in with a sword, then he is no king at all.

The exceedingly holy, characterized by excessive pacifism in diet and deed, existed well before Christendom and have been isolated from the greater community. Popular imagination can venerate them but not as the sole or preferable path to salvation. Jesus Christ’s incarnation as child sets the family as the focus, the heart of the cross to be visual for wont of better illumination. I get a lot of images that I struggle to put into words when contemplating these things.

Baptism in whatever form is just the first step on a journey that lasts your entire life. The straight and narrow path may be left at any time, either by intent or accident. Each day we must renew through prayer our salvation through Jesus Christ and let the Holy Spirit navigate.

The good in us comes from God as He made us in His image, but it can and does become corrupted into evil by our sinful nature.

Neurotoxin says:

If a king is too holy to curse his foe as a damned whoreson to his face before cleaving his skull in with a sword, then he is no king at all.

Wow, that’s pretty metal.

The Cominator says:

“If a king is too holy to curse his foe as a damned whoreson to his face before cleaving his skull in with a sword, then he is no king at all.”

As another poster said pretty metal, but I would point to Alfred the Great as a counterexample. Super religious guy, would fight if he had to but otherwise he might as well have been Ned Flanders.

jim says:

Ned Flanders with a sword?

Hesiod says:

Well, I didn’t say he couldn’t or shouldn’t feel bad about it afterwards. One of my fav scenes in the film A Knight’s Tale has the character Chaucer butter up the tournament crowd before William/Sir Ulric’s match. Amongst his lord’s achievements is spending time in prayer at a monastery to atone for the Saurcan blood he shed in battle.

On the subject of Alfred the Great, he was indeed a very pious and learned king, but he was also a great hunter, the preferred peaceful pastime of a ruling warrior that keeps himself and his companions exercised in body and mind for the battlefield. How many Pagan foes of his did not escape the stomach of ravens to enjoy baptism, forced or no?

The Cominator says:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ec1pnWxX8rQ

Well he has been portrayed as a totalitarian world dictator before…

Hesiod says:

Saracen, not Saurcan.

The Cominator says:

Alfred the great would wield a sword if he had to but as warrior king he was reluctant.

jim says:

Of course he was reluctant. A good Christian should be reluctant, and no one doubts that Alfred the Great was a good Christian. He was, however, also a King, and a Christian King has a duty to be a good King. And the number one job of a good King is hurting people and breaking stuff. And Alfred was a good King.

The Cominator says:

Most medieval aristocrats and kings who went to war liked going to war, the primary sources are pretty clear on this. There were some knights who wrote poetry or short memoirs and generally they wrote stuff about how they loved battle and stuff. Alfred was an outlier for clearly not being like this. Alfred had serious Michael Bay cutout character sort of war reluctance and even war guilt and clearly did not like it at all. Alfred seems from what evidence we have of him to have almost wished to have become a monk.

jim says:

Alfred probably did wish to become a monk, but he got landed with the job of Kinging. Which job requires a whole lot of hurting people and breaking things.

Ned Flanders is funny because his Christianity renders him ludicrously ineffectual. King Alfred’s Christianity was rather more muscular.

The Cominator says:

Always thought Ned Flanders was overall a pretty positive portrayal…

Neurotoxin says:

Ned Flanders is definitely intended as a dork.
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Of course, part of the job of a good government is putting hurt on bad people. My comment on Hesiod’s post was an admiring reaction to the vibe.

The Cominator says:

Total depravity does not mean everyone is at all points in their life a maniacal sadist or something it means everyone has a deep font of corruption within them restrained only by conditioning and the grace of God. I’m rather shocked that any reactionaries dislike the idea of total depravity as it was in general not just Calvin’s view but the pre enlightenment view of human nature.

jim says:

Total depravity is an empirical claim about this world. And the proposition that every non Christian that I know is totally depraved is silly.

Contaminated NEET says:

It’s completely obvious from my heathen perspective that “total depravity” is the residue of a previous holiness spiral. Original sin makes sense: we all have evil within us and it’s an inescapable part of human nature. No question. Some annoying destructive holier-than-thou priests took this concept, ran wild with it, and declared that everything everybody does is always evil, and even when they do good it’s actually evil because their motives are impure. This is nonsense. People choose to do good all the time. Pathetic, weak, and evil as I am, I choose to do good fairly often.

Total-depravists can say, and they do, that people do genuine good for genuinely good motives, but this is only because God’s grace allows it. But this empties out the concept; now it doesn’t teach us anything about anything.

Original Sin is a useful and important insight about the human condition.
Total Depravity is meaningless status-jockeying wordplay.

Handi says:

@Cominator That was already covered by the concept of original sin. The word “total” must be taken at face value.

The Cominator says:

Jeez too many here are not willing to accept that they are wretched sinners utterly unworthy of God’s love, that a fountain of pollution exists deep within thy nature and that thou exist as a winter tree, unprofitable, fit only to be hewn down and burned… steep thy life in prayer and hope that god sees fit to show mercy upon thy corrupted soul. Yes I did rip this off from a mildly shitlib youtuber but he at least has actual talent to some degree…

Original sin leaves too much open for a leftist white guilt interpretation (I’m holy its too bad Adam was not), Total Depravity does not leave that door open. I’m very consistent that you need to kill all the progs and then weld shut all the doors.

jim says:

Unfortunately Total Depravity, by deprecating ordinary everyday this worldly goodness, leaves the door open to gnosticism and antinomialism, where the believer gets to be holier than thou, without any need for the inconvenience of ordinary goodness in this world towards kin, friends, and allies.

Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

Total Depravity is a bulletproof contradiction of virtue spoofing.

Only trouble is, what makes it a bulletproof contradiction of virtue spoofing also makes it a bulletproof contradiction of everything else too.

One can say it has value in a contingent sense, in the sense that the cardinality of its thrust pushes against a certain maladaptive cardinality of a certain state of affairs – as if on a ridgeline road, there is a hard turn coming up, or else the bus drives off a cliff, and you say, ‘God decrees that buses must always turn right’.

And certainly, in that moment, with that bus, in that environment, it works out, because the thrust is adaptive for that moment.

But then the turn comes and goes, and you’re going to have a problem if the bus can’t do anything but turn in one direction…

The actual Calvinist position is modulated by an unspoken nuance factor as implied by the actual behavior of Calvinists; but a Calvinist order does not survive unless that modulation is elucidated.

alf says:

Jeez too many here are not willing to accept that they are wretched sinners utterly unworthy of God’s love

Too dark for me. I am a sinner, yes, but not a wretched one totally unworthy of God’s love. My actions and choices make me worthy of God’s love, make God proud of me like a father would be of his children. This world is not a botched creation.

jim says:

We are made in Gods image. Flawed, but some of us less flawed than others. Otherwise, why the testing?

Fidelis says:

The answer is in genesis. Adam ate the fruit, and he and his descendants henceforth know the taste of Good and Evil. Neither totally good or totally depraved, but capable of distinguishing given attention.

The Cominator says:

And our resident shill inadvertedly shows why Total Depravity is based and redpilled and should be the official position of the Church of America.

Hesiod says:

While your acme of tenacity is admirable, only some interpretations of Total Depravity are based. A good portion are black-pilled. It’s a relatively late addition to Christendom with perhaps more rotten baggage than it’s worth. Jim, PC, and Aidan make very good arguments against it.

Total depravity, along with its ugly sister predeterminism (there’s a dark holdover from Pagan concepts such as Wyrd and being fey as in doomed), diminish the importance, perhaps even primacy, of freewill. A man may be influenced by his stars, for good or ill, but they do not make choices for him.

Some have more natural virtue than others. This is addressed in the Parable of Talents.

The Cominator says:

Jim’s argument against total depravity is that he has seen people who are not depraved, well of course he has. They obviously have a measure of grace and conditioning which holds back their innately corrupt nature. I find I know X good people an unconvincing argument. It also seems the quibble is over total depravity vs limited depravity. And the Calvinist would answer that depravity is limited in some by the grace of God (and by the drilled in fear of punishment).

So if not total depravity what should we call it, I don’t like just original sin… something like the “innate corruption”?

jim says:

> I find I know X good people an unconvincing argument. It also seems the quibble is over total depravity vs limited depravity

Well, obviously there are good people. Obviously depravity is limited.

To comprehend the sermon on the mount, remember that the context was Jewish legalism. That by adherence to the rules, rules that the pharisees got to creatively interpret, one was saved. Which led to no end of creative rule lawyering whereby no end of utterly horrifying and outrageous behaviour was the most virtuous possible behaviour. Which led to the destruction of Israel, due to not only God, but also the Romans, being unimpressed by this creativity.

So we don’t want to reduce right conduct to a set of rules that can be gamed.

But neither do we want to abolish all earthly distinctions between good and evil. And “Total Depravity” does abolish all earthly distinctions between good and evil.

FrankNorman says:

“To comprehend the sermon on the mount, remember that the context was Jewish legalism. ”

So much in the Gospels would be understood better if it were seen in context like that. Jesus did not float around just saying things in general, He was responding to people in a specific environment, and often dealing with questioners who were not asking in good faith.

Modern Calvinism’s rhetoric about Total Depravity is the result of Augustine taking the Apostle Paul’s teaching that all are sinners, and no one is righteous before God on their own merits, and in reaction against Pelagius, dialing it up into Original Sin.

And then the Synod of Dort taking Luther and Calvin’s reading of Augustine and dialing it up to 11.

Then preachers taking TULIP and spinning it even higher till it ends up throwing people out of their churches entirely.

Because instead of feeling guilty about not obeying Divine commands that he could and should have followed, the common man starts to feel more like a helpless victim, like someone who is being blamed for things that he has no agency in. And the Calvinist behind the pulpit will want to make sure that they all understand this too: that they have no agency in the matter, they are “sinners” because they are simply predestined to be.

When asked to justify this crazy extreme position, the passages they quote from Scripture (if one can get them to engage in debate, not just thump the table and call you names) seem to mostly be the passages about the Jews/Israelites being in a hardened state of rebellion against God, refusing to obey, and losing the ability to even understand what it was that God was asking of them.

And they take this stuff as being about literally all humans everywhere, whether Israelite or not. Things the Bible says about one group of people, they think are universal.

Vendat Tunicam says:

The issue of total depravity is that it takes responsibility off the

Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

You can talk about depravity without going #fulldepravity. The blues argue (but not think) that all men are the same everywhere and everytime and only #society makes them different for better or worse and that’s clearly not the case. Some beasts became the worlds that produced Augustus and Augustine and other beats didn’t and that’s no happenstance.

Varna says:

Self-control, and in-group-directed self-sacrifice can be signs of great strength and courage, but not be signs of being on the side of good.

Red Indian braves, for example, for supposed to exhibit a sort of control until the bend, by their crude honor system, to the extent of when being tortured to death or slowly dying in some other violent manner, to harness the sensations they were feeling into one last euphoric burst of curses at his tormentors, or a song about ancestors etc. Going out in style, total investment into the persona to the end.

These people invested in suppressing what to them is depravity, such as cowardice and compassion to out-groups, and build rigid social structures and instilled corresponding mental and emotional structures into the group members, strong social programming that controls and channels impulses like fear, envy, lust, hunger, anger, and so on, but all this effort is very different from the effort of being a Christian.

If total depravity means giving in to primal anti-social impulses, then total depravity has been rigidly suppressed and control in any society that has managed to survive, including aboriginal cannibals and whatnot, yet this brought them not closer to the Kingdom of God.

In this sense “total depravity” would also apply for example to “would people shit on the street if not taught not to?” They would. Would they steal and force themselves upon others? Yes. Would at least some of them wallow in the joy of causing suffering to some helpless victim, human or animal? Yes.

Every human society control, channels, suppresses, redirects, harnesses such primal impulses into what society deems to be useful for its continuation and self-replication.

If you close off the niggers in say Detroit, and just drop in a limited amount of food, within a generation the survivors will have formed tribal gangs with witchdoctors, holy mothers, clairvoyants, will have developed rituals to do with death, birth, courtship, dream interpretation. Generic stone age social superstructures on top of the primal foundation. The occasional legendary brave who instead of collapsing in sniveling pleas, pours out free-style curses of his torturer’s mamas when captured by an enemy tribe.

Total depravity exists as a primal layer of the human’s early child form, but all social groups control it and mold it.

Do the norms of a society control the primal depravity in ways which allow it to transcend the primal depravity, or merely to symbolically enshrine it in its institutions. Does the social superstructure on top work to make the prival depravity an engine for good, or is it simply an organized self-sustaining system feeding on that primal depravity, manifesting it in a more complex and coded way.

Likewise with the individual. Is the individual suppressing and harnessing his primal depravity in a way which simply allows him to function within his society, or is he striving to build something clean and beautiful on top of the urges.

The initial total depravity bubbles strongly or simmer softly beneath the surface of every character. The Aztec way gives it form and in a sense enshrines it in its social fabric. The trad Christian way does not enshrine it in its social fabric. Today globohomo is making a great effort to enshrine total depravity in the social structures it is implementing.

And it feels as though it’s not merely total depravity enshrined the Aztec way, but the deeper total depravity that quickly destroys the host social organism, the depravity levels that actually interfere with a society’s ability to survive and replicate itself. Bolshevik solipsism levels and beyond.

Fidelis says:

Anyone have an idea why Prince is interested in Venezuelan politics?

https://x.com/realErikDPrince/status/1824792045040668929

Milosevic says:

Strange, isn’t it.

You’d think he’d have more to do and say about the stuff going on back home.

Sher Singh says:

Big and amazing news from India formerly Endia.

Modi & the Bjp have basically destroyed the left & ended caste politics.

What they did was subcategorize the SC/ST act.

Previously, all tribals & ‘dalits’ were treated as one.
However, there’s diversity within the category & untouchability/graded degradation and hierarchy.

The BJP have chosen to subcategorize which destroys the left’s post 47 system.

Now like a sweeper can bring a case against a leather tanner where prior both were unified against the ‘general category’.


It’s pretty much realigned and brought Indian politics back to the 1850s-70s?
Ie there’s a colonial gov but it doesn’t know how to govern/what to do.


The GAE has made a grab for the bay of Bengal with the recent coup.
However, it’s in no Asian power’s interest + the military is with the deposed leader.

By politics and by marriage – all major leaders are married into her family.
I think that the color revolution will fail within 2-3 years and a new stronger Endia emerges.


Videos from Pakistan also show Afghan refugees invading the elite Panjabi areas and harassing women.

I think within decades the W Punjab & Sindh areas will be Hindu (India) aligned.


Finally, a silver lining of the Bangladesh coup is that the country was propped up by shipping the textile and ceramic industry from bordering Indian states.

There’s now an incentive to move those back to within India.

This also solves the migrant worker crisis which was causing problems along the Western parts of India from the North to the South.


Overall, it looks like all or most of India’s major problems are either being solved or being given room to be solveable.

From a Sikh POV hopefully Sikhs abroad can work with the GOI to solve the Khalistani clown issue & sign a low key armistice with Endia while working towards collective issues.

Haryana does need a massacre because the Hindus there are homosexuals, but the rest are fine.

I think the BJP has the same view.

ਅਕਾਲ

jim says:

This is leftism getting ever lefter.

This sounds like the ever smaller intersections of America’s intersectional left — thus, for example a morbidly obese black transsexual ticks more checkboxes than a woman, so has higher status in the victim hierarchy.

That the Bangladesh coup happened shows the extent of Global American Empire control in Bangladesh. Is Global American Empire control much different in Pakistan and India? The Global American Empire had enough power to almost steal the Indian election, and enough power to colour revolution Bangladesh.

If you don’t want to be colour revolutioned, you need to purge your universities. If you want to purge your universities, you have to bring a gun to a gunfight and a faith to a holy war.

For a ruler to avoid being colour revolutioned, it is not enough to exclude Soros and State Department ngos. He must choose a national faith and appoint men of his faith to govern the universities.

somedude says:

Jim,

I’m not sure what the transwarrior is trying to pull, and what his payload is but

1. There are no videos or reports of Afghan refugees in Pakistan harassing women in elite areas

2. The Hindus in Haryana are probably the most redpilled and based in all of India on the woman question and he calls them gay and wants them wiped out

somedude says:

On your other recommendations

1. Purging the Universities is a no-go zone for the moment because the entire Indian middle class worships progWhites and universities are associated with progWhites. Was going to say goodWhites instead of progWhites, but could not get myself to use that term.

2. The BJP is a secular party. The RSS just wants Abrahamics and progs to leave the Hindus alone. Modi worships equality and he just wants to bring Hindus on an equal legal footing with Mohammedans. They are not even hovering in the vicinity of your ideas.

Damn this blackpilling! It really is a Sin

somedude says:

Just like the American Cuck-right claims that Democrats are the real racists, Modi, his BJP and his RSS and the Indian RW claims that the Seculars (Progs) are the real Religious Bigots

These claims work about as well in India as it works in the west

Sher Singh says:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDcbSalsdJo

Chup Kar Kaley.

ਅਕਾਲ

someDude says:

Kaley, huh? And that’s an insult??

Hahahaha

Basil says:

[*black pilling deleted*]

jim says:

Russian fertility is a death spiral, but they obviously have better sex lives than white males in the west, which makes it likely their fertility is far higher than that of whites in the west. And it is far higher than Ukrainian fertility.

Before 2014, the Ukraine and Russia were very similar countries with very similar fertility levels. After 2014, radically different countries with radically different fertility levels.

Which renders the core and cause of the fertility problem obvious.

And you are strangely unable to tell us what Soros got up to in the Ukraine.

Basil says:

I look at the official statistics of Russia. The Russian TFR is -1.49. For comparison, the TFR in the European Union is 1.46. Yes, there are migrants/gypsies in the EU, but so are they in Russia. Maybe the situation in Russia is a little better, but not so much better that one can confidently say that the fate of Russia should be different from the fate of the EU. This can be said about Abu Dhabi, Istanbul, Tehran and Beijing. Rhetorical opposition to the West does not magically transform into children if you swallow feminism.

I did not claim that Ukrainian or European men have a better sex life, no need to invent my position. It sucks. In countries with a good sex life, the demographic pyramid does not look like the Ukrainian one. In countries with a good sex life, there is more than one 20-year-old girl for every 30-year-old guy. In countries with a good sex life, women get married early. In countries with a good sex life, society still condemns women who divorce their husbands.

The increase in the birth rate gap around 2014 is not related to Russian successes, it is related to Ukrainian failures,[*deleted*]

jim says:

No it is not related to Ukrainian failures. It is related to Global American Empire reconquering the Ukraine, an event you are strangely unable to notice.

Mayflower Sperg says:

1.49 would be a big improvement:

https://blog.reaction.la/uncategorized/moderation-broken/#comment-2894711

The war has depressed fertility in both countries because it separates middle-aged men from their wives, often permanently. On the home front feminism remains strong because female vanity, hedonism, hypergamy, and self-delusion know no bounds. Russia’s leaders need to wake up and realize that if they don’t absolutely crush feminism *now*, Russia will have no army in 2050.

Reduce women to the same legal status as dogs until TFR reaches 3.0, then give them some rights back so your country doesn’t become a desperately overpopulated shithole like Afghanistan.

Fidelis says:

>Russia’s leaders need to wake up and realize that if they don’t absolutely crush feminism *now*, Russia will have no army in 2050.
Why should they care? There are fighting aged males now, who volunteer in large numbers; by 2050 they’ll be dead or near dead, someone else’s problem. You bring up valid concerns, but the negatives aren’t felt by the powerful, and the positives are loaded more towards the modal Russian.

I’m not just being snarky, besides reasons of faith or internal moral compass, what motivation is there for the people in the Russian state to play culture war games? The Orthodox themselves don’t seem to be talking that loudly about this, and it is quite literally their role in society to do so. A few powerful oligarchs arguing we need to make women property is not going to go down well. They could get away with it by loudly signalling allegiance to the church, and bringing about a faithful Russia once more, but it only works if the church itself is strongly calling for these things as well.

>then give them some rights back so your country doesn’t become a desperately overpopulated shithole like Afghanistan.
You really expect Russia of all countries to end up this way?

Mayflower Sperg says:

Any country can become overpopulated if its birthrate stays too high for too long. A Catholic relative once told me that some countries have not enough food, which is wrong — they have too many people!

2050 they’ll be dead or near dead, someone else’s problem

Which is why we need hereditary monarchy, to give the ruling class a longer time horizon.

Those who wish to make Russia great again must look to the man who made Russia great in the first place. What would Ivan the Terrible do if Russian women were not marrying and making babies, and the Church saw no urgent need to do something about it?

The Cominator says:

I honestly think Ivan Grozny would find the problems of modernity hard to comprehend…

What do you mean men and women don’t want to fuck anymore… in our day we had to watch the teenagers like hawks before they were married to keep them from fucking early.

The Cominator says:

No you need to get the legal status of women right immediately and then fix it for all time with no one allowed to question it. Once you start giving rights back you will fall down the slippery slope to no fault divorce and girlbossing again.

Simply put ban divorce, keep the wifebeating laws in Russia as they are now, single women above 20 to be auctioned off to the highest bidding single man who wants them and is not a known criminal or drunk.
As to avoiding being Islamic avoid petty moral fagging laws that say women need to dress modestly by law or are totally forbidden to smoke or drink though that kind of stuff is their husbands affair and I imagine in Russia most husbands probably want their wives to do that kind of stuff with them on some occasions.

Basil says:

Two news from Russia:

1) Putin went to Chechnya to demonstratively kiss the Koran there. In fact, he has lowered the status of Orthodoxy/Russians in Russia even more than it was yesterday. Waiting for a new wave of TikToks from girls about why brown are better than Russians.

https://ria.ru/20240822/video-1967677950.html

2) Ekaterina Mizulina (educated at the School of Oriental and African Studies at the University of London, a childless forty-year-old female official who built a career on censorship, playing a conservative role) actually jailed (already clear, he admitted “guilt”) some incel clown on suspicion that he fucked a fifteen-year-old whore (who openly wrote about how she fucked and sucked older men’s cocks).

I thought before that in Russia there is a consensus around the issue of relationships with sexually mature female “children”. You can try to pick up a fifteen year old girl and you will be fine if neither she nor her relatives complain about you to the authorities. Now, it seems that is not the case. Unless of course you are a Muslim.

https://t.me/svtvnews/55513

jim says:

> a childless forty-year-old female official

Well of course.

Cloudswrest says:

Off topic, but not for blog as a whole.

Great scene of a woman putting up pro-forma fake resistance, and the man holding frame.

https://x.com/LindyTasteful/status/1824906763520614503

The Cominator says:

He must be some kind of celebrity because normally dime pieces ain’t gonna hang around with a guy who looks like that.

simplyconnected says:

(((Serge Gainsbourg))) (French: [sɛʁʒ ɡɛ̃zbuʁ] ⓘ; born Lucien Ginsburg;[a] 2 April 1928 – 2 March 1991) was a “French” [sic] singer-songwriter, actor, composer, and director.

Cloudswrest says:

The woman is Jane Birkin, who had at least one of his kids.

jim says:

No, it is doable. Someone with his solid frame can do it.

anonymous mouse says:

He’s a famous sex symbol in France. French women were crazy about him.

jim says:

Preselection.

But how did he get to be a famous sex symbol?

i says:

What is this person’s game here?
https://x.com/CrankyFed/status/1825656756938088700

A registered sex offender putting his real name in his Twitter account as quoted in this tweet talking about adolescent menstrual cycles until 18. Is this a Glowie op or what?

I know the WQ is important on this website. But this is just suspicious.

jim says:

Likely he is the real thing, but his tongue is brass instead of silver.

yewotm8 says:

How could you write that in a normie-friendly way? We’re at the point where famous men are getting canceled for flirting with 17 year olds over the internet (all women younger than 18 are Minors and that’s the end of that thought). I don’t think any man has a tongue argentic enough to even begin moving in that direction without triggering crimestop.

With no good way to dance around the mental block, I’d say his strategy of trying to blast right through is probably most effective. I’m not very good at indirectness so I may be biased, but if you’re going to be accused of Pedophilia no matter how you say it, you might as well be honest and appeal directly to reality.

jim says:

What I meant by silver is that he probably got charged for lack of ability to talk to cops, not that he was expressing the thought crime poorly.

Anon says:

“..ability to talk to cops“
I am seeing a lot of group of “vigilantes” supposedly “confronting” “pedophile”. How can someone talk his way out of a mob
Also are these genuine group or psyop.

jim says:

I have never seen any genuine reaction concerning my interactions with a fertile age females.

I am pretty sure, from direct personal experience, that there is zero actual concern about older men and hot chicks.

I am pretty sure that the vast majority of indignation about straight sex and fertile age females comes from child molesting faggots (social justice warriors always project) and from old women who have been left on the shelf.

I just cannot reconcile all this internet outrage about young fertile age females, and my own personal experiences. It is so utterly alien to my own experience.

If people were spontaneously and naturally apt to get pissed about this, they would have been pissed about it two centuries ago, a thousand years ago, pissed about it in the old and new testaments. It is obvious astroturf, obviously synthetic and fake.

Fidelis says:

I’ve seen it with a 33yo woman and a guy in his early 40s. The boomer parents literally calling the guy a pedophile. Hilariously detached. This is displaced anger at not being able to patrol daughters, plus a bit of ‘socially approved’ attacking some moral outrage, but it does exist. You’re probably getting comments behind your back, but if it weren’t this it would be something else. In person you won’t see anything, people are socially cowards.

FrankNorman says:

At 33 years old she’s a grown adult and not their little child.

i says:

I suspect that the internet allows us to view social circles that normally in our lives we never run into.

So it may be real at least for those commentating. Perhaps thise people have been convinced of the current day morality by the conflation of genuine evil with what was previously a good thing to make said good thing look evil.

Feminists have been quite successful in redefining morality for much society after all with the influence they have been given.

jim says:

The whole point of pedo hysteria directed at straight men getting it on with hot chicks is to deflect from the misconduct of gays and Child Protective Services. Just raise the topic of gays with these people, and kaboomb, it becomes obvious they are not genuinely outraged in good faith. It is like raising the topic of Soros and Zelensky with fake rightists who are going on about Rothschilds, Trump being Jewish, Musk being Jewish, or bringing up the topic of FBI misconduct with 9/11 troofers.

Just as the Troofers are running a cover operation for the FBI, the supposed pedo mobs are running cover for faggots and for Child Protective Services selling children to faggots.

Cloudswrest says:

I think an additional explanation, for “pedo outrage”, as far as normies are concerned, is nobody cares about homos, or their homo victimspersonally (they do care in that they find it disgusting, but I’m referring to caring about the people involved). But young women are instinctually viewed as a valuable commodity, and normies don’t want to see it spoiled or go to waste. Or at least the pedo outrage peddlers implicitly work this angle.

jim says:

> But young women are instinctually viewed as a valuable commodity, and normies don’t want to see it spoiled or go to waste.

True, but if that is the angle, then instead of pedo outrage, should want to see sixteen year old girls dating young men with jobs and careers.

Just raise the topic of faggots and child protective services. All is revealed. It is like applying the Soros litmus test. Basil cannot notice what happened in the Ukraine in 2014, and a pedo hysteric cannot notice schools transitioning children, nor child protective services selling nine year old boys to faggots.

Someone might sincerely believe that Musk is just a parasite riding on technology granted him by Harvard and the Rothschilds, but he is not going to believe that and also not notice what Soros has been up to. Basil might be genuinely a right wing Russian who is justly criticising Putin because Putin is a 1990s liberal, but he is not going to believe that and also not notice what happened in 2014 Ukraine, and a pedo hysteric mightly be genuinely distressed by young women dating older men, but he is not going to be genuinely distressed by young women dating older men and oblivious to what faggots, child protective services, and the schools get up to.

i says:

It may well have begun as an astroturf. But it may also have become genuine too:
https://x.com/jomickane/status/1826210247955923216

If you search up the group mentioned in this tweet of the man who was imprisoned for protesting the Palestinian demonstration in UK.

Or it’s all an op including his own arrest and imprisonment.

jim says:

Jewish left is pissed by the Palestinian left, so they really are jailing each other’s operators.

He was counter protesting protesters who were protesting the genocide of the Palestinians.

The actual right does not care about that, It cares about crime, handouts, and anti white terror. It objects to Israel itself, which it blames for the white replacement, thus is untroubled by Muslims protesting Israel.

The Jews hate us and want us gone, the Muslims hate us and want us gone. We don’t care about troubles between Jews and Muslims.

He says he mixed race himself. What do you bet that one of those races is Jewish? Jews are the biggest pro faggot and pro transexualization activists.

i says:

@jim

True about the man himself. But I bet the True Right would approve of his group as mentioned in the link or some may constitute some members of said group which isn’t itself concerned about Israel-Palestinian relations.

jim says:

The right very much approves of hanging “pedophiles” — by which it means gays, not men banging young women.

The right in Britain and in Russia is also really pissed about Muslims banging young white women, which is displacement outrage that is really motivated by our inability to prevent female misconduct.

But it is unbothered by white men banging young women.

i says:

Ever since that original post this theme has developed further:
https://x.com/kenzietuff/status/1826785980872839226

Of course addressing the elephant in the room. Mainly Foreign men harassing 12-17 year old females.

i says:

On a related note this is a video of a man who may be from India harassing the girls in Moscow saying one of the teenage girls is his “girlfriend”:

https://x.com/9mm_smg/status/1827723260945203358

Of course with the usual disgust in the comments about this.

Cloudswrest says:

It is obvious astroturf, obviously synthetic and fake.

I agree. It’s obviously being ginned up. On a related note I was recalling Jim’s pederast/pedophile distinction and decided to search for “pederast” on Twitter. Seems the shills are bringing back the word “pederast”, but are now using it to refer to heteros (overtly) attracted to jailbait. Seems more people are catching on to the distinction and the obvious intent is to eliminate any differentiation between these two words.

The Cominator says:

A man who likes teenage girls is a normal heterosexual, unfortunately a homosexual man who likes young boys (likes is perhaps not the right term) is a normal homosexual. Which is among many reasons why people in the past had a deep revulsion to male homosexuals.

The funny thing is in an attempt to appear even handed these recently started busting all these female teachers etc who get caught fucking teenage chads whereas this would merely be a matter of jokes and gossip in the past.

yewotm8 says:

Nobody cared about attraction to teenaged girls (But she’s a Minor!) until suddenly they did. My generation called them jailbait, which was an acknowledgement that one would love to, but was stopped by potential consequences. Now one must pretend they don’t even want it in the first place. It became a thoughtcrime overnight. The ability of an NPC to see a huge pair of 16 year old tits and swear up and down that he’s unattracted to the pair’s owner is unsettling.

The Cominator says:

She’s only 17 years and 364 days old you pervert.

Cloudswrest says:

The ability of an NPC to see a huge pair of 16 year old tits and swear up and down that he’s unattracted to the pair’s owner is unsettling.

Indeed. It must have been some temporary psychosis that men enjoyed those Traci Lords videos before they were retroactively declared illegal!

The Cominator says:

Phoebe Cates wasn’t 18 yet when she did the fast times at ridgemont high pool scene.

TheFeebleClone says:

“If people were spontaneously and naturally apt to get pissed about this”
It hardly needs to be mentioned in this context, but I have definitely seen it in women past their prime and more than once.

jim says:

Quite true. But one is in absolutely no danger of being physically attacked by old women. One is in danger of them pressing the police to reluctantly take action.

When I have had to talk to police over this issue, always because of an old childless woman on their backs.

Dr. Faust says:

In the later months of 2024 the election is highly likely to be contested regardless of the outcome. History shows Trump will make appeals to the Supreme Court. For sake of argument if the Supreme Court overturns a state’s 3 am vote dump and a leftist judge, backed by media and the Attorney General issue interference charges against Trump, what happens?

If Trump raises his banner and calls patriots to his side how many armed men can he realistically field within a month or two? My thoughts are that he could get 1% of his voting base to march to war. If we assume he gets 60 million votes that gives him an army of 600,000 armed men from the general populace. This does not account for mutiny among the police and military. The 1% rule would give him another 28,000 from the current active duty military and roughly 4-5 thousand from the police.

If such a scenario occurs I don’t think there is any force which could oppose this quickly enough. 630,000 armed men is an army. This is larger than the national guard at full strength. However it is an unorganized civilian army spread throughout the country and would take time and resources to train and organize.

There is also the fact that Trump has balked from treading these waters in the past. 2020 showed the Supremes total unwillingness to involve themselves in the election and Trump willing to issue stand down orders to his followers.

Dr. Faust says:

I forgot to mention the importance of the air of legitimacy which Trump needs. He needs to be perceived as justified. He needs must a casus beli to raise his war banner which is from some office within the current state. An assassination attempt wasn’t enough as there was no desire to point out that the CIA wanted him dead.

An arrest in New York may be a strong enough catalyst but it would be tricky to do and I don’t think anyone working with Trump understands the game they’re playing. I fear the right would rather die than sacrifice their precious morality. Morality which the left does not have and uses this to their advantage.

Karl says:

Trump’s team needs to organize now what they’ll do when a 3 am vote dump occurs. That means someone has to talk now to armed men what to do in case of another steal. Luttwalk’s “Coup d’État: A Practical Handbook” might give some useful ideas.

If noone does that now, Trump will only become president, if Thermidor organizes now and hands the presicency to him.

Organized violence wins. No catalyst is a suitable substitute for organization. Waiting for a catalyst is pointless.

jim says:

> Trump’s team needs to organize now what they’ll do when a 3 am vote dump occurs

You cannot explicitly be organising for that. You have to organise for that without saying to each other that you are organising for that. The Junior officers who organised Pinochet’s coup (without telling him until the last minute and then press ganging the reluctant Pinochet into the coup) organised months in advance, but none of them spoke the fatal words, none of them actually said what they were organising for until about six hours before the coup and a very short time before they press ganged Pinochet into the coup.

What you can do is ostensibly prep vigorous election scrutineering, and also prep for a chinese invasion through military age male border crosses, and also prep for BLM/Antifa/Deportation resistance. Which former prep strangely happens to overlap with the latter preps.

Dr. Faust says:

A lot of the organization that Trump lacks is logistics. I wonder if Musk could provide superior deployment of resources and transportation for his forces to deploy in haste. Through “peaceful protesters” Trump could bus enough armed men to surround D.C. and overwhelm any defense they had. He needs to be securing Governor’s and Sheriff’s in order to issue free passage through those states and counties, garrison men in West Virginia and Appalachia and strike out and take the White House, sit in the oval office, address the nation, and issue a stand down order to the U.S. military.

This is all just fantasy though. I agree Trump suffers normalcy bias and would rather lose than actually fight for his country. This is clown world for a reason everything must be fake and gay.

Karl says:

Logistics? Why do you think so? Cars and motorcycles are common in the USA. Trump’s supporters can drive anywhere they are needed.

The important part is the organization that tells the group of supporters in town X to drive to Y and do Z.

jim says:

> History shows Trump will make appeals to the Supreme Court.

History shows courts refuse to allow the admission of evidence that would lead to election hesitancy, just as doctors refuse to do testing or autopsies likely to lead to vaccine hesitancy.

Contaminated NEET says:

If the plan is to go to the courts, then the plan is to fail. We tried it in 2020, and it failed. (The plan is to fail.)

Dr. Faust says:

Then why campaign? Trump is campaigning for votes when he should be recruiting men to fight for America. Instead the young men most willing to fight for him are now hesitating.

Contaminated NEET says:

Inertia, ego, normalcy bias, stupidity, and fork-tongued counsel from the traitors and enemies the Great Orange Boomer perennially chooses to advise him.

jim says:

He seems to have noticeably wised up when it comes to advisers.

The recent black pilling about his campaign manager turned out to be premature. It seems that that campaign manager was appointed by the mainstream media, not Trump.

jim says:

The bet is that with economic collapse and nuclear war looming, the elite will be too disunited to pull off a third steal.

The theory underlying both steals was that the uniparty would be sufficiently popular to allow the election rigging to be less blatant, and the Global American Empire would attain world conquest, so that there was nowhere in the world any example of an advanced society that is not globohomo.

Uniparty popularity has collapsed even further, and the Global American Empire is facing external defeat.

The recent successful Ukrainian invasion of Russia has cheered them up, but it is a very bad idea, because Russia has forbidden itself to use conscripts in the formerly Ukrainian territories. Russia has three hundred thousand conscripts that until now were twiddling their thumbs waiting for a Nato invasion. Now Russia has its Nato invasion and thus suddenly has a lot more manpower.

In 2014 some in Russia, who back then were deemed to be the extreme right, started to think that the Ukraine war was existential for Russia, that there is no alternative but to fight, or die, or nuke the world. As time went by, this more and more Russians, and eventually became a majority of Russians. With Nato invasion, now a much bigger majority.

Dr. Faust says:

So do you believe the scenario is moot? Or just the assumption that the Supremes would make a ruling? In 2020 they declared no standing and refused to hear the case. Trump has had four years to prepare to remake that case and if not to win an overturned election at least to make a ruling on the case. The Supremes could tread a middle ground and make concessions to both sides while pleasing none. They know what happened in 2020 and might happen if they don’t.

jim says:

Observe the response to the attempted assassination of Trump. Strikingly similar to the response to stealing the election in 2020 and 2022.

Reviewing the fall of the Roman Republic, everyone was stuck deep in normalcy bias until the assassination of Caesar, at which point normalcy bias evaporated.

Mayflower Sperg says:

The key word there being “attempted”. Trump’s normalcy bias survived because Trump survived.

When assassin’s bullets start hitting their marks, American politics will get very Darwinian very quickly.

jim says:

Knowing that your enemies tried to kill you focuses the mind amazingly.

Trump knows who tried to kill him, or at least some of them, and knows they are still in power. If he becomes president, he has to kill them, never mind courts, Department of Justice, and all that. He is a smart guy, and his mind should now be focused on the issue. Making Vance VP, and his antics with sheriffs and generals look like prep for civil war. He should know he has to kill them, and that the courts, the FBI, and the DOJ are not going to do so.

I don’t know what Trump is thinking, only what he should be thinking under the circumstances. From what Don Junior says, I have some indication that he is thinking what Trump should be thinking under the circumstances. From Baron’s body language during the incident, I am fairly sure he is thinking what Caesar Augustus would have been thinking. Baron is thinking: You win or you die. Teenagers wear their hearts on their sleeve.

Perhaps Trump is too old and stuck in his ways to change. I cannot read him. I can read Baron. But if I am unable to read change in Trump, I am also unable to read that he is stuck.

TheFeebleClone says:

“Normalcy bias” is an issue that deserves a lot more attention. As soon as I saw one Muslim in garb, I knew the public would have no conception their population growth would be exponential. By the time we had a significant population of medina style paramilitary groups, we wouldn’t even notice. If they had all come in at once, the public would revolt.

Sure enough, that’s exactly what happened. “Diversity” seems normal. And by the way, we have a huge number of first generation migrants for whom warfare is a familiar thing. Most people don’t understand the disconnect between what is considered normal in the respective populations.

Mayflower Sperg is right: That normal can shift very quickly with the right stimulus. When I got cornered by a gang I didn’t panic. A year before that I would have been freaking out and my my head would have been stomped. I would never have thought about walking straight up to them and separating the leader to speak with him privately.

Calvin says:

Trump knows who tried to kill him, or at least some of them, and knows they are still in power.

No he doesn’t. If he did, would have replaced his secret service (which tried to get him killed) with private security weeks ago, Instead he sings their praise to this day.

jim says:

There has been an obvious change in personnel. A lot of secret service faces that were present when the assassination was attempted are gone. All the females are gone. A whole lot of people who very recently were added to the secret service are gone.

jim says:

> History shows Trump will make appeals to the Supreme Court. For sake of argument if the Supreme Court overturns a state’s 3 am vote dump

Civil war would ensue, therefore no way the Supreme court is going to hear the case. Only the right cares what the Supreme court pronounces. The left would scarcely notice the case. They have been jacksoning the supremes for years.

In the event of a steal, Trump cannot use his familiar arsenal of lawyers and money. He is going to need a different arsenal.

The courts will not go near electoral fraud because they know that there is no way the state instruments of violence are going to pay any attention.

Dr. Faust says:

“Civil war would ensue ” I’m assuming that’s the case either way.

Contaminated NEET says:

The American Right has neither the balls nor the organization for a civil war, and most importantly lacks a leader. Our side will accept defeat like we always do, albeit resentfully. There may a little unrest or a few scattered acts of domestic terrorism, but this will only strengthen the Left, just as J6 did.

Trump will go to the courts, and just as Jim says, the courts will rebuff him again. He’ll accept it and so will we.

Dr. Faust says:

Spew the blackpill from your mouth, brother. There is always hope in Jesus Christ.

Contaminated NEET says:

I genuinely appreciate the concern, but the blackpill has always been there for me, telling me the truth in a world of lies.

Jim and co. will tell you that irrational optimism beats rational pessimism, and that’s true to an extent, but there’s such a thing as too much irrational optimism. Ghost Shirts did not stop the White man’s bullets; nor did the mystic martial arts of the Righteous and Harmonious Fists; killing the cattle and burning the grain only brought famine the Xhosa; murdering Sharon Tate was not the trigger for Helter Skelter; decades of subsidies and preferential treatment have not brought Blacks up to the level of Whites; formation marching and bamboo control towers never lured a divine airplane to land and disgorge its rich cargo.

jim says:

> Jim and co. will tell you that irrational optimism beats rational pessimism, and that’s true to an extent, but there’s such a thing as too much irrational optimism.

We have grounds for rational optimism. If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.

Our enemy’s greatest vulnerability is that they are utterly deluded about both the world and themselves, and are therefore necessarily bound to do stupid shit.

Every battle is won before it is fought.

Is Trump going to pull the sword from the stone? Maybe, maybe not, but someone is going to pull the sword from the stone. The uniparty believes it is democracy and the rules based order. Now if it knew it was cynically lying about this, we would have a problem, but the uniparty are the last to see through their own lies.

Our enemy’s second greatest vulnerability is incohesion. It is a coalition of the defective, the evil, the deranged, and the grossly incompetent. These are people and groups who do not get on with each other, for example lesbians and trannies, blacks and Jews, Muslims and Jews, Dot Indians and Jews. So far the coalition holds, but the Jewish element of the coalition is on shaky ground that gets daily shakier. If the left does not lose power soon, it is going to be a tossup whether Jews or whites are the first to get genocided.

Jews believe that the only threat to Jews is white Christian males, because drunk on their own Koolaide.

The Cominator says:

One ground for pessimism I noticed… I have not spent much time on twatter in the past few years but I notice a lot of what are almost certainly paid shills lately attacking Trump along the the lines of… I’m a real conservative and we need Trump to lose so real conservatives can retake the GOP or that Trump needs to purity spiral on abortion even though its massively unpopular. If Elon can’t keep these shills off his own platform makes me think it will be very hard to keep the Democrats from making up unlimited fake votes in places like Detroit.

Contaminated NEET says:

@Cominator
If you had the power to stop the Dems from inventing all the votes they need to win, then you wouldn’t need to, because you’d already be in charge. There is no way to get from here to there by coloring within the lines.

The Cominator says:

CN
I do not agree with that the fake votes are a very local super corrupt urban precinct operation…

jim says:

All big conspiracies leak. We know election theft was centrally planned, centrally organised, and centrally coordinated. Similarly, the crackdown on speech in the provinces of empire occurred at the direction of authorities within America, a warmup for cracking down within the centre of empire.

We should not over estimate the cohesion of our enemies. They do not have a single will, but are rather a multitude of conspiracies stepping on each others toes. But Neither should we take their pretence at dispersion seriously. These conspiracies are located in Harvard and Washington, and involve a small handful of powerful people. If Caesar locates those people and neutralises them, the problem goes away.

The Cominator says:

It is centrally coordinated but depends on corrupt precincts so in that sense it is local.

Dr. Faust says:

And you consider Christianity a cargo cult?

Contaminated NEET says:

No. All I mean by the cargo cult analogy is that the cultists were irrationally optimistic when rational pessimism would have served them better.

I’m not a believer, but Christianity is to the cargo cults as the Sistine Chapel is to a grass hut containing a crudely carved wooden idol.

alf says:

truth in a world of lies.

Hey I recognize that line! From… Somewhere…

someDude says:

Me too! Wait don’t tell, I’ve got this …..

Dr. Faust says:

Chris is Lord. Better to confess now and spare yourself hellfire. If all you want is game theory then pascal’s wager should follow. All atheist choices are losing choices.

The ends of atheism is anti-natalism and the end of a anti-natalism is everyone jumping into a volcano because life is nothing but despair and meaninglessness. Maybe link arms with the marxists so you all go down together.

The secular left and right are suicidal death cults just picking different paths up the mountain before embracing their fiery end.

Contaminated NEET says:

We will drown and nobody shall save us.

Adam says:

>We will drown and nobody shall save us.

This is a retard take. How do you get explain success? There are still those of us getting laid, having kids and running successful businesses. You are still thinking like a gay liberal social worker. Jimian Christianity isn’t going to save the world. It is to save the best of the best, which fortunately for the retarded children of the world will have positive effects downstream.

Everyone dies in the end. Nobody is arguing otherwise. In the meantime it is certainly possible to do some good and enjoy the fruit of it, even if it is a little rough out there.

alf says:

We will drown and nobody shall save us.

Hey, I recognize that line! From… Somewhere else…

Mister Grumpus says:

There’s no “contesting” anything unless the aggrieved can communicate and organize, and for just each individual person to discover that he’s not alone. To me, that’s what the 2016 Trump campaign was all about.

Remember K.R. Cambodia. Every man’s life divides into “before” and “after” he learns some of this terrifying and very true story. Everyone there knew he was going to die, and pretty soon too, but each person only knew this privately, quietly and alone. No one had ANY time, place or way to communicate and discuss anything actually important, with anyone outside of his nuclear family, and even then, his kids could rat him out for a great status reward.

Not blackpilling, not exactly. Twitter is kinda sorta free-ish still. Kinda sorta. But media and shelling point control really are that powerful. Mainstream news is from another planet now, but if that’s it for the boomers, parasites and dumbasses then that’s it.

jim says:

> Mainstream news is from another planet now

They have more employees than viewers.

Mister Grumpus says:

And that is sufficient as long as there is no competition. Everyone can know it’s BS, and that they’re being lied to, but if there’s no way to talk about those lies as the lies they are, then statis continues. Solzhenitsyn was all over this.

There has to ALSO be an alternative channel of mass communication. There is Twitter, kinda-sorta, but to get any traction there you need to upload your driver’s license, credit report and blood type.

But look. Before the great censoring of 2017 or so, just a few anonymized samizdat jokes on Twitter rocked the world. It reminds me of the “cassette tape revolution” that the Ayatollah lead from Paris with his Sony tape recorder, or George Soros’ photocopiers in the late USSR. Note how the Iranian revolution had a leader, while basement photocopied jokes (“We pretend to work, they pretend to pay us” and “It’s such a paradise here that they shoot us for trying to leave”) did not.

You can erode the regime’s legitimacy all day long with dank memes, but then yes, there has to be leadership, and that implies an off-leash mass communication medium.

Dr. Faust says:

The blue helmets are the Mouth of Sauron and the king shows lopping off their heads is the correct response. The press and the UN often wear blue helmets as a larp to proclaim their neutrality during conflicts but the hatred of legacy media has grown deep if not yet as wide as it can grow. A sniper choosing between a blue hat and a guy with an RPG would shoot the grenadier first but quickly follow up with the blue helmet.

This shows their predictive model of war is inaccurate. Alex Jones was right. Not about everything but the conspiracy model of the world explains more than the Marxist model of the world and the JQ is the most accurate of conspiracies. But the JQ does not sufficiently explain female sexual behavior and is rife with nasty Jews corrupting sweet Aryan princesses with Jewish black magic.

The Christian model explains female behavior more accurately then the JQ. It also makes room for error and miscalculation within itself. For “all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God” and God is the truth: “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. ” Nothing true can be against God.

Dr. Faust says:

While nothing true can be against God can be seen a statement a Darwinist might make I am none of those things and fully embrace the Christian worldview because it has been tested against the harshest rigors of war and suffering and triumphed.

The Darwinist model fails because it cannot explain it’s own nature, does not calculate it’s own error and irrational biases and cannot understand that it’s belief left unmeasured will cause ruin for itself. If it were tethered to God it would not have this self-destructive tendency or would have a means in which it could be kept in check. That being the sovereign, the priest, and God.

For God and Crown.

Your Uncle Bob says:

If Trump loses a civil war it’s because a dozen white males in Waco killer SUVS blackbag him – with a warrant of course, under cover of law, but still. Custody first, Romanov second.

If Trump wins a civil war it’s because he gets enough legitimacy to roll his own few small teams of white males in law enforcement SUVs to execute his own entirely legal and legitimate warrants, without anybody getting scared and phoning the targets of the warrants for permission.

In neither scenario does mustering and maneuvering 630,000 armed men across the country help him, or us. Mustering and moving 630,000 armed men in fact only guarantees his opposition time and motivation to roll the dozen men to blackbag him.

alf says:

Hammer on the nail. If Trump has a team of 63 armed loyal men who can apply pressure where needed, that is all. Hell, 6 armed loyal men can suffice.

Mayflower Sperg says:

Who says the civil war ends when Trump is killed? That’s not what happened after the murder of Julius Caesar, or the Romanovs.

Mister Grumpus says:

“Bricscoin”

Hesiod says:

If you’re like me and I know I am, the distinct lack of major chimpouts in Chicongo was a dismal letdown. Imagination conjured images dwarfing the ’68 convention, but alas the city was apparently put under martial law. Worse case of the MSM trying to turn nothing into something was a report on a murder suspect being apprehended a few blocks from the DNC. Well, yeah, it’s Chicago and that makes it sound like a slow day if it was only one.

However, Kennedy hopping on the Trump train today perked up things. Here’s a clip of CNN clumsily talking over his speech in which he lays out how the Cackler rose so far yet did so abysmal in the ’20 primaries:

https://cdn.videy.co/ywzEJMJO.mp4

Pax Imperialis says:

They’re too busy getting free abortions and vasectomies at the DNC

Hesiod says:

CNN is now mocking how the man speaks:

https://x.com/Bubblebathgirl/status/1827092446485819455

These Caucasian Cucks for Kamala are so amusingly embarrassing.

Hesiod says:

BTW, a young relative I’m very fond of is engaged to a lovely young girl whose maternal grandmother is Japanese. Similar to your situation in her family is military. I have no problem with this. There was another Japanese lady who was in the special ed department of my elementary school who I owe a debt to because she took a special interest in me. Unlike a lot of the other nice Churchian white teachers who were most troubled by the violent imagery of my drawings, she recognized the adventurous spirit in me and got me on books above my grade level instead of below. Greek mythology was one such subject that lit a long-lasting fire.

Just wanted to put that out as you’ve touched on race a few times in the past. Glad you are back and hope your circumstances have improved.

Pax Imperialis says:

I’m living the best worst life where I’m under something similar to house arrest but with decent pay with very wide lateral limits on what I choose to do. I’m practically a government funded NEET for the next year or so at the price of very limited potential legal consequences and a stalled career. It absolutely sucks in the sense I want to be in the field training to be a warrior, but I’m so very, very ‘grateful’ (🙃) the government bureaucracy has put me into a human version of the mouse utopia experiment. No really, I’d rather be flogged for my alleged speech crimes instead of this prison without bars. On the plus side I’ll be able to devote nearly all my time skirt chasing as soon as legal expenses stop eating away at my savings… that or Trump turns the economy around and I can feel safe liquidating some of my stocks.

Since you brought up race… (the following is really a series of rambling thoughts lacking any really cohesion)

In the past I used to take a much more hard line position on the nature vs. nurture debate. Material’s triumph over spiritual seemed so irrefutable and obvious, but now it is clear ‘software’ matter greatly as well since the more advanced the ‘hardware’ becomes, the more complex the ‘software’ available, and thus more opportunity for bad programming and major screw ups.

Being Asian in America was a very unique experience between ~1950 and ~2010s, and America likely saw its finest Asians when they were few, dispersed, and disorganized. Back then the biological realities allowed the regime, and basically everyone else, to treat them as equals, but Asians lacking familiarity, numbers, and organization were allowed to be largely separate. An almost feudal expression of government normally impossible under a ‘democratic’ regime. A true state of separate but equal. I suspect this is how Europe’s multi-ethnic monarchies were remarkably stable compared to any multicultural democratic society today.

Things have changed significantly since the early Obama years. Asians are now numerous enough, and organized enough, that the regime is able to use them to socially enforce thought standards among them. The ability and past ease for an Asian to be openly eccentric has narrowed considerably. The possibly of having “another Japanese lady” that you had in education is very suppressed. Note how the few openly conservative Asians out there are mostly ‘fresh off the boat’. These days the youthful Asian Americans are fully assimilated into the progressive borg, and my skirt chasing quest to find a nice trad Asian waifu has been severely hampered.

Speaking tangentially of ‘trad’, Jim once said something along the line of, if the Church is hard line Trinitarian, they are very unlikely to be demon worshipers, and I’ve found this to be true. There are a surprising number of based Churches in the DMV (District of Columbia, Maryland, Virginia), and oh boy are they openly Christian Nationalist, many of them are outright monarchical. I was skeptical at first when Jim put his hope in Christian Nationalism because I had never really seen it… at least out in the West, but it seems to be easily found in the East for whatever reason. Conveniently located right next to the capital if Trump ever needed to call up a bunch of reliable men, and in a way it explains the crowds of Jan 6 which materialized in the Capital but not really anywhere else. They are also surprisingly multi racial, and the synthetic tribe has successful at creating cohesion.

jim says:

This has always been the strength of Trinitarians.

Hesiod says:

She was my teacher from the mid to late 70s. This was in a rural US southern school, white with a significant black minority. She commuted from a university town about 35 miles away, so perhaps progressive for the time but horribly reactionary by Current Year standards. So, a right unicorn for downhome.

Got to meet her husband and son when she took me to her home for one night (this was a thing back then folks did). Her son was three or four years older than your truly, a significant age difference, so we didn’t really bond. But I do remember well his models and illustrated books on WW2 aircraft. His model of a B-17 flying fortress was a particular joy.

Contaminated NEET says:

Agreed. I was really hoping for some authentic 1968 “language of the unheard.” In hindsight, it should have been obvious that we wouldn’t get it. Riots, chaos in the streets, “civil disobedience,” etc., only happen because the people in power support them. When the powerful are resolved not to allow them, they don’t get anywhere.

Hesiod says:

Both on the Dem ticket have quite a bit of baggage in word and deed in support of the Summer of St. Fentanyl. Adding more to the stock footage pile would not have been helpful.

Cloudswrest says:

Wow RFK, Jr. realtalks on Ukraine during his address!!! Start at about 1:00:55, which I have set in the link.

https://www.youtube.com/live/f_ALJjWS2n4?si=hShhRvUjqv7GpEvK&t=3655

A2 says:

Los Alamos nuclear weapons hijinks, set to yakety sax.

https://www.science.org/content/article/near-disaster-federal-nuclear-weapons-laboratory-takes-hidden-toll-america-s-arsenal

… what was anticipated as a brief work stoppage has turned into a nearly four-year shutdown of portions of the huge laboratory building where the plutonium work is located, known as PF-4. … Los Alamos violated nuclear industry rules for guarding against a criticality accident three times more often last year than the Energy Department’s 23 other nuclear installations combined [so how many events were those in real terms?]

Actually, quite a bit more on various accidents in the article. Not quite at the level of juggling plutonium sticks on Youtube, but that might be on the way.

Well, I suppose this is in practice a really boring job, like monitoring a nuclear plant. Somewhat interesting is that the site is run by private entities nowadays.

jim says:

“it hasn’t produced a usable new warhead core in at least six years. Congress mandated in the 2015 National Defense Authorization Act that Los Alamos must be capable of manufacturing up to 20 war-ready cores a year by 2025, 30 the next year and 80 by 2027.”

Hesiod says:

Not with a bang, but a whimper, indeed.

Anon says:

So Russia just has to wait until GAE nuke itself.
Also this is from 2017, 8 years . wonder how things today.

Varna says:

Today, in 2024, they’re going to start producing warheads any minute now.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/mar/09/los-alamos-new-mexico-atomic-bomb-health-risks
Already hiring new people, making all the moves how production is totally about to start.

A glowing article from Time in 2023 https://time.com/6296743/los-alamos-lab-plutonium-pits-nuclear-weapons/
From which we find out various things, such as a) the US does not make new plutonium but recycles old one, and b) that the new nuclear “pits” allegedly being manufactured will go toward “new W87-1 warhead, which is still under development, expected to be completed sometime within the next decade.”

Even if the new recycled and upgraded plutonium pit production is entirely imaginary, this will await discovery at least until the 2030’s, when the alleged new warheads will allegedly be ready.

The Los Alamos Reporter reports mainly stuff such as “and we’re totally getting ready to almost right now begin production” https://losalamosreporter.com/?s=plutonium+pit

And, of course, fighting climate change.https://losalamosreporter.com/2024/07/14/los-alamos-climate-action-plan-whats-missing-whats-misleading-and-what-we-must-do/

Weird vibe of this Los Alamos newspaper. Very USSR circa 1984.

skippy says:

I also caught the gap between headlines (“they ARE building new cores”) and the text of the article (“they PLAN to start building cores in the last year permitted by a Congressional mandate, but are not building cores now”).

Varna says:

The mega super hypersonics are also allegedly coming in 2025
https://www.defenseone.com/threats/2024/06/delays-push-armys-hypersonic-missile-fiscal-2025/397433/

Lockheed Martin allegedly made one for firing from fighter jets, and showed it off, but for now no one’s buying looks like.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mako_(missile)
Maybe something about the tech and process makes it difficult to syphon off billions left and right, so big players are not interested.

TBeholder says:

I doubt even circa 1984 anyone in USSR would just skip nuclear safety training. However cheeky bureaucrats became, they still had bosses to fear, so CYA principle was the last to go.
Jim mentioned plutonium batteries for a probe that just could not be made in a reasonable time. Worse, US DoE could not even tell right away how long production will take, indicating unreliability of what worked at all.
Josh Hawley asked back in 2020 WTF is going on in Sandia National Laboratories (the management seemed much more concerned with Cretinical Race Theory than anything you could expect from a nuclear lab).
Maybe now is a bad time to live downwind of any such places.

dave says:

even if it can go boom, can we get it there in a missile? Trouble maintaining the ICBM systems: https://archive.is/hvsC3

“The missiles sitting inside some 450 silos are decades past their projected lifespan of 10 years. The underground silos require thousands of miles of new fiber-optic cabling. Underground command centers that control the missiles need to be rebuilt. Maintenance jobs that used to take two or three hours now take twice as long, and parts are more difficult to obtain, Air Force officials said.
“Its scale, scope and complexity are something we haven’t attempted as a nation for over 60 years,” Bill LaPlante, the Pentagon’s chief weapons buyer, told reporters in July as he cleared Sentinel to continue as a must-do program despite the surging costs.”

“The Pentagon hired Northrop Grumman in 2020 to oversee the Sentinel program and do the initial engineering and design work. Northrop, aided by construction giant Bechtel, was the only bidder for the initial $13.3 billion contract after Boeing dropped out.”

TBeholder says:

I could come up with only one phrase on the nature of this accident entirely devoid of obscenities: this approach to safety deserves its own Oompa Loompa Song verse.
Inspirational reading: https://theglen.livejournal.com/219007.html

A2 says:

Oho, regarding that stabbing spree in Germany, I saw a quick TV shot of suitably numb kids reverently adding flowers to a gay flag on the ground. So were these stabbings actually based? Pulse Nightclub scenario? (Just speculating.)

Hesiod says:

Supposedly, the rampage happened at a diversity faire. So, yeah.

But everything is cool, y’all. The EU is arresting social media moguls for not censoring to its standards, so few may find out about this:

https://archive.ph/PhiKW

jim says:

It is interesting that Telegram, fleeing censorship, fled to Dubai, not to the US.

I know umpteen governments have been demanding that Dubai arrest Telegram. Dubai politely ignored them, despite the fact that no end of speech is forbidden in Dubai. You may not disrespect the monarch, and you may not disrespect the state religion. No end of sex related topics are forbidden.

Well, the same was true in Shakespeare’s England, and the Crown directly took over the Shakespeare’s company. But even as direct employee of the crown Shakespeare had a lot more freedom of speech than modern movie directors.

In Shakespeare’s plays within a play, he depicts the crown having a little chat with the players. Likely this is autobiographical. But the crown tells the players to make certain point or incorporate a certain detail. As depicted by Shakespeare, it does not put the entire story into a straightjacket, and this is consistent with the plays he created.

dave says:

interesting that they are arresting, and not assassinating Durov (unlike Mcafee). They want it to be public and to be a warning to others. all in all a sign of weakness. They see their coalition crumbling. many elites aligning with Trump or moving outside the GAE altogether.

dave says:

amended. mcafee was suicided after arrest and prison. the usual playbook could happen to Durov.

jim says:

McCafee knew too much.

Hesiod says:

Rumble CEO gets the hint and flees Europe:

https://x.com/chrispavlovski/status/1827658235618144257

One of several Musk’s tweets on the arrest:

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1827572720936030703

alf says:

Seems obvious they want a backdoor into telegram.

Hesiod says:

Zuckerberg, who may or may not be synthetic, sends a letter to Jim Jordan:

https://x.com/JudiciaryGOP/status/1828201780544504064

The bit at the end concerning his non-partisan participation in voter fraud was very thoughtful in granting a good laugh.

Varna says:

Durov first invented VK (“Vkontakte”), the Russian Facebook, crudely put, rather the second Russian Facebook after Odnoklasniki. Well, a bit beyond, because you can watch copyrighted films there, Slavland style. For example Cleopatra. https://vk.com/video219780809_456240006

Then starting 2011 Durov started feeling increasing institutional pressure and acting out like a sperg in reply, and in 2014 sold the company and left Russia, never to return.

Upon which he invented Telegraph, and then… From 2014 to 2024 – exactly ten years in which things across the world changed so obviously, that normalcy bias has become deadly. Durov thought he could set foot in France after an arrest warrant in his name for the very same things which Moscow demanded back in the day? This is Prigozhin levels of obliviousness.

He has not made himself globally indispensable in fifty different ways like Musk, hasn’t forged political alliances, except perhaps inside Dubai and we’ve yet to see if that will help. What was he thinking. So many years in Dubai must have made him believe officials are reasonable humans by default.

skippy says:

Durov would probably have been fine if he had done anything other than fly to a core US Empire country, for now anyway. That leaves a lot of countries, including many nice ones. Guy genuinely thought the West was the good guys, lol

jim says:

The west has not been the good guys since Snowden, Assange, and Sheriff Joe.

Compare and contrast with Putin on Snowden, and the King of Dubai on Telegram.

Pax Imperialis says:

Individual liberty is probably inversely related to the free percentage of a society that has access to political power.

Mister Grumpus says:

A goddamn billionaire. Smart enough to come up with VK and Telegram. OK got it.

He could fly in that jet to anywhere he wanted, and could fly other people to him. But keep a fold-up map in his pocket of the countries where he can get arrested for Telegram breaking some bullshit law or another? Just to play it safe? Just a little?

Nope! Fucking ridiculous. Reminds me of Epstein and Gizzy Maxwell, just strolling through the lower 48 and getting picked up. For Jerry, oops, sorry but the guard niggers are all asleep or playing ping pong, and the cameras are all off, and now you’re dead. Here’s a complaint form. Leave it in the box on the wall.

If I were a billionaire, with a bunch a crypto stuff going on too no less, I’d be the most paranoid motherfucker on earth.

But that’s just it, isn’t it? To get to that level of (publicly visible) success (as opposed to Satoshi for example), isn’t it almost required that you just not see the world as THAT hostile a place? Is normalcy bias required for that kind of achievement? Because the based super geniuses are too scared to peek out of their anon bunkers?

jim says:

> To get to that level of (publicly visible) success (as opposed to Satoshi for example), isn’t it almost required that you just not see the world as THAT hostile a place? Is normalcy bias required for that kind of achievement? Because the based super geniuses are too scared to peek out of their anon bunkers?

Yes, seeing the world as evil, dangerous, and hostile definitely gets in the way. But Satoshi, on the other hand, attained enormous success because he correctly perceived the world as evil, dangerous, and hostile.

Cloudswrest says:

Re. Satoshi success

Just imagine how much, virgin mined, no “KYC”, bitcoin he owns.

Mister Grumpus says:

I cannot imagine it, no. Motherfucker in his basement lair in 2001 with a few budget Celeron’s, with the cases open, running off thousand dollar bills while playing Zork or something. Amazing.

Dr. Faust says:

The Dead Whales theory of Bitcoin is that the wallets holding billions in bitcoin are all owned by dead men who no longer have access to their wealth. Their seed phrases are lost or sit on some cold storage drive which no one has access to.

Otherwise you’d have to explain why someone someone doesn’t make themselves a multibillionaire by pushing a few buttons on their phone. Some people might be able to resist that temptation for months or years but decades?

The most probable conclusion is that the sleeping whales are dead and they took their secrets to the grave.

Otherwise you have to explain why a secret cabal didn’t access their “plausibly deniable” source of near limitless funds. People are not good at resisting temptation. Smarties are no better than dumbdumbs at this.

jim says:

Losing a wallet was a real problem back before deterministic hierarchical wallets. Today, when a wallet can be written down on paper, I don’t think it is a big problem. Just stick the master secret in one’s probate papers.

Varna says:

Eurasia shill Pepe Escobar claims on Unz.com that France fast-tracked the arrest warrant while Durov was midflight.
https://www.unz.com/pescobar/eu-to-telegram-were-coming-to-get-you/
As in: there was no arrest order when he took off from Azerbaijan to France, but there was one ready and waiting for him when he landed.

There is some additional talk of certain podcasts that he got too cozy with the ruling family of Azerbaijan, helping them with their cybersecurity agency, at a time in which Azerbaijan, has for some reason, and the impulse to guffaw in disbelief is quite understandable, decided to finance French separatism. https://www.reuters.com/world/azerbaijans-president-pledges-help-french-territories-secure-independence-2024-07-20/

Not only oversea territories, but even Corsica.
https://actualnewsmagazine.com/english/congress-in-azerbaijan-french-separatists-create-a-liberation-front/

I had no idea Azerbaijan had decided to take on France, but apparently that’s a thing. So, another factor in the whole mess.

Neurotoxin says:

I had no idea Azerbaijan had decided to take on France, but apparently that’s a thing.

Bring the chaos! More complications for the GAE’s planning = good.

TBeholder says:

at a time in which Azerbaijan, has for some reason, and the impulse to guffaw in disbelief is quite understandable, decided to finance French separatism.
Not only oversea territories, but even Corsica.

Well, as he quotes —

French authorities must be rather desperate in trying to keep their heads in the game of global politics. And Telegram today is (his italics) global politics.

Consider that now Azerbaijan looks in the direction of BRICS, and Putin recently visited them. It does not need to be anything more serious than PR.
Now, imagine a bunch of Azerbaijani politicians over good wine and roast.
— Polad, tell me as a friend: what do the people out there really think about our country now?
— Ilham, to be honest… many think we are just another bunch of American puppets. Like the little juntas in Central America used to be, or that sodomite clown Zelensky.
— That’s very sad, we must have a better reputation.
— I’m with you on this, but what could we do? Act up big? We are not in a good position, it will bite us back one way or another. We could deal with the Russians, but we would lose face if we have to compromise with Armenia.
— Hmm. You are right. Wait, how about we mess with France somehow? We do not depend on them in anything. They are not our neighbors. They got themselves in troubles now, yes? And even the Americans are not really fond of them, so probably won’t annoy us over such nonsense when they have so much on their plate.
— Ooh, that’s a good idea. Let’s help Corsica act up. Buona parte!
— Hahahahaha! Let’s do it!

Your Uncle Bob says:

One claim I’ve seen is he was traveling with a 20-something side piece “bitcoin coach”/influencer who’d been posting selfies at all their stops on social media – i.e. bitch was dropping geo-location while she was at it.

Obvious fail is – don’t dox yourself to start with. Wild speculation is – did the bitch set him up, badger him until he went France, tell him it would be okay cause the fix was in (which it was, in the other direction)? That’s a little paranoid without any evidence at all, and yet, in today’s world, probably not paranoid enough.

Mister Grumpus says:

Shamelessly off topic:

Maybe it was just a dream or a nightmare, but somewhere online, many years ago, I read the most chilling few sentences ever, and this is me “prompting” ChatJimPT to help me reconstruct them.

They were about how women genuinely can’t self-reflect upon or confess to past mistakes or wrongdoing, but for perfectly logical evo-psych’ish reasons. The key factors being first, their very short fertility windows, and secondly, the indelible and permanent impacts of whoever fucks them FIRST. Alpha widowhood, post-chad bitchiness and dissatisfaction with Mister Average, and how after Jeremy Meeks and/or just giving birth to her first child, in so many ways, there’s just no going back, ever.

Basically, that a woman’s life is “one-shot”, without second chances, take-backs or do-overs, in ways that a man’s just isn’t. And therefore, a man’s capacity for self-reflection and self-criticism, and his willingness to confess his mistakes and failures to help his fellows avoid them, for a woman those traits are simply of no actual help whatsoever, not to her anyway, and would therefore be genuinely harmful if they “displaced” other coping and sense-making instincts that work completely differently.

If there’s no going back, and no do-overs, then why even bother having or evolving a capacity to understand and confess to past mistakes? What GOOD would that do?

“At this point what DIFFERENCE does it MAKE?!” -H. Clinton

Or distilled down a bit more: Men’s instinctive morality is to say what’s true, but women’s is to say what WORKS.

Pax Imperialis says:

>those traits are simply of no actual help whatsoever

What if those traits are downright detrimental and the evolutionary pressure is to go the other way? If those traits were purely irrelevant, you’d expect some sort of gaussian distribution in female behavior, but instead we seem to get a bimodal distribution with the vast majority being very irrational and a very small minority being mostly rational but clearly neuro-divergent.

Bwana Simba says:

The only problem with this being purely being a side affect of evolution is the sheer amount of drugs modern women are on, especially the college age girls. Birth control alone has been shown to completely alter their sexual behavior, and even the normie media noticed more than a decade ago how it made them no longer attracted to masculine men. Throw in obesity, mass media and probably a few other factors (such as mass mental illness and possible demonic possession) and the women of modern age are practically a whole different species from the women of the hunter gatherer ancestry, let alone even just a century ago.

Mister Grumpus says:

Yes yes. It would royally fuck her up to feel much compulsion to “honesty” as we think of it, essentially because women don’t really get chances to “fail, reflect, correct and try again.” Better to just believe that you’re always right and just baffle everyone with conformism and dissimulation, day by day, as you go.

Mister Grumpus says:

Or to be a little more fair, one could say that both sexes tend to say what “works”, which is what I mean by “instinctive morality”, but since the life courses are so very different, there’s just no reasonable reason to expect what “works” to be the same for each. For us, “what works” more closely aligns with what we think of as external truth of the past and the present, because we need to agree with nature and “facts” in order to function, produce and survive, while for women “what works” has mostly to do with appearing well in the minds, opinions and imaginations of other people. Yeah.

A2 says:

Stabbings in London too says BBC, but it’s at the (third world) Notting Hill Carnival so just part and parcel of living in the big city.

Unrelated, a funny article pointed out by Scott Locklin years ago. This is what communist utopia will actually look like. Today in Berkeley, tomorrow the world, comrades.

https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2008-sep-22-me-bowl22-story.html

Anonymous Fake says:

[*deleted*] am I shadow banned? [*deleted*]

jim says:

I am silently suppressing all your copious comments on the abortion issue, because I do not believe you are raising this issue or making these arguments sincerely or in good faith.

Anonymous Fake says:

[*deleted*] it’s simplest just to take people at their word and move on. [*deleted*]

jim says:

In response to this comment I reviewed a pile of your earlier comments, which reminded me of how I came to the conclusion that you are not who you say you are, you do not say what you mean, nor mean what you say. Your payload is never what you are ostensibly arguing for, but rather what your arguments presuppose as taken for granted, accepted, and believed by everyone — as for example https://blog.reaction.la/war/state-of-the-war/#comment-2929309.

You argue for something reasonable, while pulling a payload of monstrous evil. Only someone who intended the murder of everyone like me would be pulling your payload.

Mister Grumpus says:

How do normies make sense of the war in Ukraine without the Jewish Question? What the heck do THEY see? Is it just magic versus magic, good versus evil, like Lord of the Rings, so don’t bother with the incidental details?

Hesiod says:

Well, normiecons have been blasted with the narrative of Putler the Reanimator of the USSR for years now. They’re told to wait for the once and future Reagan to show up to defeat him. However, the facade has crumbled that quite a few I know don’t trust the official story even if the specifics still elude them.

As Varna said below, it’s our team that’s the USSR ’84 this time around.

TBeholder says:

As Varna said below, it’s our team that’s the USSR ’84 this time around.

Even with a late-stage Brezhnev. History repeated as a comedy again, but this time it’s not even funny.
I mean, younger Brezhnev was a somewhat larcenous commissar, but also a keen politician. And took that nice chair by his own wits while he still had them. Which is more than can be said about his hair-sniffing replica.

Mr.P says:

In conversations I’ve had with family & friends and one or two complete strangers, the JQ does not factor into their thinking, not even a little. If pressed, “Putler invaded” … “Russia is the aggressor.” That’s it. More saliently, the war in Ukraine is but a faint blip of concern on their radar. Half a million dead? Ten million collapse in population? Possible future Jewish Homeland 2.0? No idea.

alf says:

“Putler invaded” … “Russia is the aggressor.” That’s it.

Pretty much. The Nuland tape is the great and eternal counter-argument, but that’s about as far as it goes. The JQ is an issue on a whole different planet.

skippy says:

Normies don’t usually bother with the details of anything. Russia was the first to deploy large army formations outside its internationally recognized borders -> it attacked “for no reason” (typical latent evil of certain countries).

One reason of course why Putin wanted the war to be a fait accompli in three days. This is less effective dealing with an historical fact than present reality.

Cloudswrest says:

Looks like Thermidor is really pushing hard for Trump. First with RFK, Jr., and now Tulsi Gabbard. As one Tweeter put it, “It’s the sane against the insane.”

Jamesthe1st says:

Zuckerburg also came out and said the Feds pressured him into censoring info about covid and 2020 and that he regrets not pushing back. Preference cascade?

The Cominator says:

Here’s what happened to Zuck. Zuck didn’t go through the normal regulatory steps with founding his foundation or maintain even an illusory fiction his foundation was independent of him he just dumped all his assets into it to avoid taxes.

So the IRS had him dead to rights, the Democrats came to him and offered him a deal. He was never really a supporter of theres (or anyone else Zuckerberg just wants to have the most sheckels he can) and he doesn’t like the government telling him how to moderate facebook.

I do believe there is a rich preference cascade against the Democrats because they declared they are for taxing unrealized capital gains, this basically forces the rich to en masse go to war against the bureaucrats/academics/brainwashed women (this is what the blue cult has left for sincere supporters) or flee the country.

Karl says:

Fleeing won’t protect them from taxation, unless they take their assets with them

TBeholder says:

The missing piece of the puzzle is outside the show — behind the curtain. Consider possible stances of the “non-partisan” powers-that-be (permanent government, Deep State, etc). When you look at the situation from this angle, an effort to balance the dangerously rocking boat before it capsizes was long overdue.
On the one side, this necessarily requires at least somewhat trimming the Left clowns, before they completely go out of control French Revolution style.
Problem: the Left / Inner Party should not be opposed directly, yet not allowed to run wild.
Solution: let the holiness spiral roll unchecked, so the craziest minority runs off, while the rest will be scared and support moderates once given an opportunity.
Now it’s safe to beef up the Outer Party clowns, this toy “opposition” is harmless… The first time around Trump was greatly preferable to Mrs. Arkancide, sure. But then oops — instead of harmlessly clowning on Twitter he managed to find another way to rock the boat! The even more ridiculous “election” was required to remove Trump, but alone it could only make things worse: consolidate Right in something tangible and embolden the Left at the same time.
Problem: how to stop the toy Right jesters from turning into a real opposition, without bolstering the dangerous Left clowns?
Solution: the Right got a cathartic “coup” show and then a threat of purges, while the Left “won”… a disgusting zombie figurehead. As Moldbug put it:

But, you know—with drugs—eventually you’re using just to feel normal. And… welcome to the Biden Administration. Welcome to Turkey. Turkey? “The name is Turkey… Cold Turkey. I’m sorry, sir—but we’re going to have to strap you down for this.”

Which is why when Zuck tried to break his leash, he was whipped, but… not crushed. Also why Musk is still not obliterated and even allowed to do something useful, despite the Left not adoring him now.

jim says:

You assume that someone competent is aware of reality and in control of events. This seems unlikely.

Rather, events are moving by themselves without regard to anyone’s plans, and no one is planning, just trying to steal what they can, while they can.

TBeholder says:

By now it’s rather semi-competent, vaguely aware, and in extremely tenuous control.
I mean, the bobble-heads of both US pseudo-parties can and did vote unanimously when required, with 2 exceptions (fanatics of their respective creeds). So they can be and are successfully coordinated. With the theocratic elements it may be more complicated, but they can be and were coordinated too (those CFR overseers, for one).
But then, what’s behind the curtain is obviously an oligarchy too. I would be surprised if there’s a hierarchy as small and strict as Soviet one (Politburo < Defence Council) on top.
And the oligarchies tend to mind their collective interests reasonably well, but suck at decision making.
Which is presumably why sane companies converged toward a simple structure of power — pick the CEO, delegate everything to him and let him do the job. Conversely, the new feminist Lucasfilm has 99 or so Vice-Presidents wandering around the offices, and they managed to sink an unsinkable franchise, then double down a few times to sink it deeper.
Roosevelt clearly was CEO of USA, but Reagan was literally a Hollywood actor, so… is there one now? Signs point at “very unlikely”.

Severian says:

The Pokrovsk front is totally broken for the Ukrainians and it shows no sign of stabilizing.
I honestly don’t understand the logic of the Kursk incursion when they could have sent those reinforcements to hold the Breakthrough in Donetsk. Some kind of Hail Marry, but how?

Varna says:

They attempted to show a “can do, pro-active attitude”, hoping to impress manager types within the US and the EU, plus they’re hoping (as always) to send shock-waves through the Moscow power system, and force Putin and his people to expend more energy on internal moves and counter-moves.

Conversely, there is a third theory, that moves like this is blackmail toward the West: “Gives what we’re asking for, or we’ll continue suicidal escalations until things maybe spiral out of control and you get sucked in with us.”

Possibly all three goals: a) impress the western masters with pointy haired boss mentality; b) force Moscow do deal with a new crisis; c) illustrate that if the west doesn’t play ball – they can play insane.

jim says:

All these motivations are true, but also they really did catch the Russians with their pants down, and also they just want Ukrainians dead.

jim says:

Actually it is perfectly sane.

The Ukrainians figured the Russians were about to attack on that front, which they were, and they would then have to pull troops to that front anyway, so they attacked first and caught the Russians with their pants down.

Plus, and more importantly, looks really good on a Washington Power Point presentation.

Of course it just results in them being attrited faster, but the neocons are happy to get rid of Ukraine. The Ukrainians, like ourselves, are ruled by people who do not want them to exist.

Big Brutha says:

Kursk was well played tactically. Strategically?

Impressing D.C. and embarrassing Putin are not war aims. Or if they are then things are more screwed up than even I can imagine.

What are the conditions of victory for Ukraine? Is it pushing the Russians out?

They do not have the power to hurl the Russians back all across the front. They don’t have the ability to fundamentally change the facts on the ground: there are more Russians and they have a solid supply of war materiel.

The Ukrainians broke through at Kursk, made the Russians looks stupid, and showed that they still have some gumption. But where do they go from here? Is the goal to just try to keep that sort of thing up until the West acquiesces and joins the war? Until the Russians give up and go home? Until they can force them to the negotiating table?

If it was negotiations they wanted they could have had those at a much lower price.

Is this an effort to play Afghanistan to the Russians? Terrain, temperament, and birth rate aren’t really conducive to that, honestly.

I guess the Russians could get fed up and go but why would they leave the Donbas to the Ukrainians at this point?

I don’t get it but I’m not a general and don’t even purport to play one on TV.

jim says:

> What are the conditions of victory for Ukraine?

Wrong question. The Ukraine is a province of empire run by the state department and the CIA, and their war aims always included the eradication of all Ukrainian goyim, though they would prefer that in the process of using up the Ukraine, they can create the necessary conditions for the eradication of Russia and Russians.

Victory for the State Department and the CIA starts with cutting the bridge between Russia and Turkey so that they can bring Turkey to heel. Then with Turkey brought to heel, they can get Georgia, Azerbaijan, and the Caspian sea, bring Russia to heel and get started on China. The Ukrainian goyim are small change in their plans. Can’t make an omlette without breaking some eggs.

Varna says:

Plus Central Asia. If Turkey and the Caucasus region fold, and Russia begins to fold, then it’s time to grab the various Uzbekistans and Kazakhstans, ruin completely China’s New Silk Road land-based flow of goods, and then it’s time to batter China proper.

Land-based global commerce network by a Heartland group vs sea-based global commerce by the Ocean civilizations.

To what extent the troubles in the Middle East, in Eastern Europe, and elsewhere are also parts of the larger effort to ruin China’s attempt to connect East Asia to Europe overland is anyone’s guess. To what extent Yemen rebels threatening Western commercial shipping is a reply to this is also anyone’s guess.

Like a sentence by a pro author plays numerous functions at the same time: moving the plot forward, showing character, providing setting details, adding atmosphere, illustrating style skill and so on, so should every geopolitical act also try to achieve half a dozen things at the same time, when done by pros.

To what extent are any pros left anywhere is a different question.

Aidan says:

The US, or substantial elements in it, is now interested in freezing the conflict. The ISW published a paper: (https://understandingwar.org/backgrounder/high-price-losing-ukraine-part-1-%E2%80%94-military-strategic-financial-implications-russian) that said “when Ukraine falls, NATO is over”. It did not say that explicitly, but it said that if Ukraine falls, it would have to go to war with Russia, and said that in war with Russia, the entire US ground forces would have to deploy to the steppes of Asia, and only then could win if it established total air superiority and destroyed all of Russia’s anti-air capacity, a prospect reliant on a tiny number of finicky stealth fighters that cannot be maintained in-theater. Even then, it admits that this concedes Taiwan and likely the entire Pacific to China.

Reading between the lines, outlining this insane plan is saying “we cannot win a war with Russia- we need to freeze the conflict and rearm NATO”. It says that freezing the conflict is an inferior option compared to Ukraine winning, and then outlines how Ukraine cannot win.

The Kiev regime, however, can act on its own; it is in its interests to get the US army to deploy to the steppes of Asia, but does not want to offend its master to the extent that the master cuts ties with it. It is trying to push Putin’s red lines, trying to get Putin to use tactical nuclear weapons against its troops. Russian nuclear doctrine says that tactical nukes can be deployed if the integrity of Russia’s territory is compromised; he has not taken the bait, because he knows that it is real bait, that Ukraine is trying to start World War 3.

Mister Grumpus says:

They can’t just say “fuck it”, pull back to Poland and Romania, and play “resistance” sabotage games forever? Why not? I don’t get it. Serious question not trolling.

jim says:

The have been playing the “resistance” games, eg the “free Russians” — who seem to have been largely Poles and Americans. The obvious hostility of “free Russians” towards civilians who are actual Russians gave the game away. The “Free Russians” glow in the dark.

Russia, being an empire, has a whole lot of minorities who are not all that keen on being part of Russia, and the CIA has been industriously wooing them, and this worked for a while, but now seems to have largely dead ended, due to Putin vigorously applying the carrot (favourable treatment for minorities) and the stick (cheerfully brutal repression).

The Russian plan is to incorporate a large part of 2014 Ukraine directly in Russia, and insist that the rest be disarmed and neutral. So the “free Ukrainians” will have to attack the actual Ukraine and actual Ukrainians, and will once again suffer the glow-in-the-dark problem.

S says:

That was the original plan- the Russians take Ukraine and the west floods the country with Javelin missiles.

They can’t give up because China. Any war with China is going to drag in Russia, they’ve committed to fighting a war with China and losing in Ukraine means the US isn’t strong enough to fight Russia and China.

TBeholder says:

Most likely, simple desperation of the Team Orange Revolution. By now, even their delusional puppeteers already figured out the show is about to end, wrote them off and moved onto another Current Thing. But then there was a window of opportunity. So they threw everything into it, in hope that threatening a nuclear plant will allow to blackmail both Russia and NATO.
It still did not work, but what could they do? Hold crumbling fronts a little more? It would only win a little bit of time, but change nothing substantially.
https://simplicius76.substack.com/p/sitrep-8824-day-three-of-kursk-attack
https://simplicius76.substack.com/p/sitrep-81124-desperate-for-escalation
https://simplicius76.substack.com/p/sitrep-81624-zelenskys-nuclear-gambit

somedude says:

This is for the cominator, because we love you, Man!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6GTDE6RQSA

Adam says:

There was some talk recently on here of avoiding legal trouble regarding younger girls. If an adult male were to find a girl, say a month or two shy of 18, and she wanted to get it on with him, and he had the capacity to take possession of her, what would one do to make sure this all went over smoothly, other than obviously one must pass her shit tests. Assuming the girl has parents and they may not be comfortable with their precious princess dating a man 10 or 20 years older than her. Is it best to wait until the girl is 18 or just go for it?

The Cominator says:

Eh being too explicit talking about this will bring us very negative attention… so lets not. Jim has said what he’s said in the past.

Dr. Faust says:

All posts here are research into my upcoming table top RPG “Throne of Liberty” which is a realistic war game featuring complex human interaction and political intrigue which allows players to embark on a quest to secure the throne of St. Peter and the Constitution of the US.

The Cominator says:

Yes exactly and for the record I have no contact with girls under 18 personally because unlike Jim I have no idea how to talk to cops and am scared shitless of ever having to talk to cops.

Adam says:

I have avoided trouble with them a few times, once a domestic dispute with my ex-wife. It helps to know they don’t want trouble, and they will be cool with you if you are relaxed around them. And it helps if it does not appear that a crime obviously was committed.

That said, my inquiry was more on the line of what does an NPC do when they find out their daughter who is very soon to be a legal adult do if they find out she is banging Jeremy Meeks or General Buck Naked. And what if anything does the law do about such a hypothetical situation, should they find out? In Minecraft of course.

The Cominator says:

Nothing will happen to Jeremy Meeks unless he is caught in the act with the cops there. But woe to the respectable white guy who some Karen (or just angry boomerdad) calls the cops on. If everyone’s completely afraid of you maybe you get away with it (that guy in Missouri the whole town lynched got away with numerous crimes including fucking tons of underage girls because everyone was afraid of him). I would best avoid the situation at least in the United States. I don’t even really meet girls under 18 anymore except for one case (very nice girl) where one came to my regular bar with a convincing fake ID (the bar doesn’t know about it but I do and her friends told me but shes 18 as of today I suspected she was super underage though when she bums a cigarette from her friend but she isn’t holding it by the filter).

Contaminated NEET says:

That’s exactly right: it’s anarchy for the criminals, the addicts, the lunatics, and the unproductive scum of the earth, and it’s tyranny for the law-abiding taxpaying productive good people.

The Cominator says:

Yeah but also increasingly irrelevant and academic… hard to meet jailbait teenage girls anymore unless you’re teaching them or something. There are no malls where teenage girls hangout anymore, almost no 18+ clubs or raves anymore. Fake ids are harder to get and zoomer and younger girls don’t seem to have the natural teenage urge (which you could argue is a good thing but its also rather strange and probably not good because it indicates something is not quite normal in their development as if they are a maladapted generation of mouse utopia) to sneak out and do that kind of stuff that girls in the past always used to have an almost unstoppable urge to do. I was rather surprised (I kind of suspected she was under 21 because of the whole smoking but holding it wrong thing) when the girls friends I met above admitted when I asked about her that she was not only under 21 but under 18. That shit was common ten years ago but she is a unicorn today.

jim says:

Social media.

Adam says:

They lie on dating apps all the time. Say they are 19 when they are 16 etc.

Pax Imperialis says:

younger girls don’t seem to have the natural teenage urge

Not just teens. Millennials and younger is where things appear to have gone a little weird. Older generations say I’m quite handsome and manly. Millennials and younger say I look like some sort of thug/gangster/psychopath.

It’s probably the influence of media. Western ‘soft boys/men’ and Eastern ‘flower boys’ rain dominant in TV and movies targeted at females. The exception is true crime dramas where traditionally handsome and masculine men are often typecasted as the bad guy. Compared to the 1980s and you’d see no end of handsome manly men as the good guys.

End result, women either end up with Cucky McCuckface and become very dissatisfied (and start lashing out at society and shitting it up) without exactly knowing why, or their hormones win out over social programming and they seek out the only cultural example of masculinity… Jeremy Meeks.

There’s a dozen other probable causes as well, but I’m feeling too lazy to effort post. About to knock out.

The Cominator says:

Never been one to use dating apps…

jim says:

I said social media, not dating apps. Have not had a whole lot of success with dating apps. All whores. Your mileage may vary.

Pax Imperialis says:

>Say they are 19 when they are 16 etc

Lol, reminds me of when a girl said she’s late 20s and wanted me to pick her up from her parents home at midnight. I admit, I chickened out when I heard her voice over the phone. It rang all sorts of alarm bells.

Varna says:

>”Older generations say I’m quite handsome and manly. Millennials and younger say I look like some sort of thug/gangster/psychopath.” (quoting Pax)

Older generations still existed in a media environment where masculine white men were often enough the good guys, either as rough no-nonsense characters, or as suave pillars of society.

Today’s peeps from middle age downward, all grew up in a cocoon of media in which masculine white men, especially handsome ones, are cold psychopathic villains, or at best unhinged lunatics on the side of good, barely holding it together, usually with the help of some wise magic negro or a feisty latina.

In other words, youngsters from 1990 would still find a 1980s Lethal Weapon or Mad Max Mel Gibson vibe attractive, whereas after a generation, and especially too of counter-programming, even a Russel Crowe vibe would make them shit themselves.

If white masculinity is still acceptable, it would in the form of a nerdish self-referencing steroid tranny like the characters from capeshit films, and only there, in neverland, not in physical encounters in the real world.

The Cominator says:

“Not just teens. Millennials and younger is where things appear to have gone a little weird. Older generations say I’m quite handsome and manly. Millennials and younger say I look like some sort of thug/gangster/psychopath.”
In the past I’m just saying when you’re talking girls… most teenage girls would generally go through a phase where it didn’t matter what level of beatings dad threatened with they’d constantly sneak out of the house, maybe shoplift, get into at least softer drugs (they’d look for booze weed smokes etc) and try to find their first chad to ravage them. Looking into historical sources this isn’t something that started with the 1960s but roughly the 1920s when early arranged marriages stopped. The only way to really stop this is either literally keeping them under unescapable guard at all times or to marry them off young. Maybe super strong cultlike social pressures (ie girl is in a strict Mormon neighborhood) stopped it too but I know from multiple sources daddy threatening to beat the shit out of them generally is NOT enough to stop it. Sending them away works… and yeah there were always some religious girls who didn’t go through this phase but most did.

With zoomer girls… the vast vast majority don’t do any of this stuff. Which you could argue is a good thing as in of itself there is nothing really good about the typical teenage girl horrible reckless misbehaviour phase but on the other hand you could argue there is something profoundly unnatural about a whole generation of teenage girls who don’t show the natural urge to go through their phase of horrible misbehaviour and I’m not sure what to think of it but there is something very mouse utopia about it. Its not like they aren’t doing this shit because they have found religion its just some weird lack of vitality.

yewotm8 says:

Zoomer girls are already walking around wearing practically nothing, even the ones not yet ripened enough for the practically nothing to have something to cling to. They don’t need to sneak out with intentions of misbehaviour; every time they leave the house it’s a possibility.

That’s if they even bother to leave the house, since as mentioned, they can get the milk for free without having to buy the cow by just signing up on a dating app.

And with regards to finding them: I see lots in suburban gyms.

Mayflower Sperg says:

For the record, I often get indications of interest from 17-year-old girls but not from girls 18 and up, probably because the latter have gone to college and been banged by chads.

Women say there’s a shortage of marriageable men in Russia, but they don’t act like there’s a shortage by casting a wider net, starting their search at a younger age, and keeping their virginity. A 25-year-old virgin is almost as good as an 18-year-old one; her eyes are still fresh.

Anonymous Fake says:

https://www.cnn.com/2024/08/24/europe/ukraine-zelensky-orthodox-church-ban-intl/index.html

I am considering talking to my congressman about this, and I speak fluent Cathedralese including international law. Ukraine is going to make (more) martyrs if it doesn’t surrender soon.

Pax Imperialis says:

Hold up! Is this a moment of lucidity!? Or is this a different AF?

jim says:

Same anonymous fake.

I for a long time I did not believe his purported Christianity, since so much about him is obviously fake, and it seemed a bit different from the (perhaps atypical) Christianity I am familiar with, but, though he is a Cathedralite, he is also a Christian.

Pax Imperialis says:

He’s as Christian as Liberation Theology is Christian. This got be wondering, @AF, what is your denomination? I bet this is going to be wild if he responds.

The Cominator says:

He’s said hes a papist. Papists are not Christians. The inner doctrine of Catholicism is babylonian Baalist Ishtar and Serpent mystery cults as exposed by Alexander Hislop in The Two Babylons.

Pax Imperialis says:

Well then, the better question should’ve been what theology does he believe in because there are ‘Catholic’ theologies so heretical even the Vatican is queasy if not out right rejecting.

Anonymous Fake says:

Catholics are definitely the Church. Orthodox are probably the Church. Evangelicals are possibly the Church. Protestants are not the Church.

jim says:

The early leadership of the Church was collegial. Initially Peter was pre-eminent, but when the heat came down, he hit the dirt, and James the Just, brother of Christ, was pre-eminent. He was called “brother of Christ” to distinguish him from the other James, hence presumably literal biological brother. After James and Paul were martyred, there is a gap in Church history — presumably the people writing stuff down were a bit busy at the time. In the four hundredth year of our lord, about seventy years after Christianity became the Roman State religion, the Bishop of Rome was granted, and proudly used, the title of Patriarch of the West. But when there were great Church councils, they were generally held in the East, and in this sense the Patriarch of the East was pre-eminent.

In 1054, the Bishop of Rome claimed to excommunicate most of the Bishops of the Church, especially the Patriarch of the East. The roots of this dispute are that the patriarch of the East coveted farms and rectories, but the Patriarch of the West coveted Kingdoms, coveted what was Caesar’s

In the following centuries, the Pope led armies in the field and the Roman Church rapidly became ever more heretical, making up new doctrines ex tempore to meet the exigent needs of war and politics, most infamously indulgences and the divine treasury, which doctrines were met with universal scepticism. This avalanche of obviously unchristian and heretical doctrine led to the Protestant Revolution.

Because the Pope continued to covet that which was Caesar’s, he kept treading on the toes of the Holy Roman Emperor. This led to the sack of Rome in 1527. Since then the Pope has been more furtive about obtaining that which is Caesar’s, operating through the oldest intelligence agency, the Jesuits, to subvert Kingdoms and murder Princes

And today the Vatican is ruled by gay demon worshippers.

The Cominator says:

Yes and what follows is my general conspiracy theory the Jesuits being the oldest intelligence agency as much as they can infiltrate all the others when they have started. And while they try to operate as much as possible off the kind of oligarchial kind of cathedral incentive structure as well described by Moldbug when they need to push it to destroy nations faster… they like to recruit Jews to throw people off the trail (they learned this in the 19th century because before that they kept getting caught and kicked out of countries and at one point suppressed entirely).

During Covid they deemed Fauci’s role too important to be trusted to an outsider and thought it worth tipping their hand for the 1st time since Franz von Papen (note neither Fauci or Papen are on the books Jesuits but looking at them closely they are obviously Jesuits) just once…

They especially hate Russia not only because of Orthodoxy (which the RCC probably hates more than Protestantism) but because they can’t get their people on the inside of the Russian government they would have the same problem with Japan (because Tokugawa was very thorough about killing every one of them and for other reasons) but for the fact that they control Japan by controlling the United States.. at least until now.

skippy says:

Do you think Jesuits caused the Russian Revolution?

The Cominator says:

Well Lenin let the Jesuits back into Russia (Stalin otoh kicked them back out) and I think they caused the 1st world war. So I cannot trace them directly (its hard with spy agencies sometimes and the Jesuits are spies) but it would not surprise me.

Fidelis says:

It’s looking to me like the shilling is going to increase in quantity and quality in a very short time. Very soon the public internet is going to be 99% bots talking to each other. Not sure what the proper solution is. Perhaps some whitelist based on meeting people in person? A network composed of these whitelists, with some zk tokens attributing personship, and you can choose which whitelist(s) you trust? I rather enjoy discussing ideas with my fellow pseudonyms, masks bring more honesty, hope we can keep that.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=WEc5WjufSps
(Yes I know the character narrating the video is an untrustworthy leftist, but the subject matter of the video is a real phenomenon and this particular event is very peculiar).

I’ve been playing around more with the current LLMs and they are incredibly competent considering the raw newness of the technology. Some better fine tuning, frameworks, and more supervised training data on e.g. recursive thinking will make them very effective. And there will be countless numbers of them, run by every agency with access to gpus and some level of talent.

Some things I hope someone aligned with us will be on top of:
– a p2p index of vectorized data. The next google will be built on LLMs using RAG schemes. If we can make this open and p2p, information stays free. If not, it will be more censored than google and more dangerously so, as people will be conversing with these LLMs at very high rates.
– a p2p way of sharding training and hosting these LLMs. The bigscience guys associated with some yandex guys built petals and released some research on this topic, then went pretty quiet. If no one does this, only large organizations will have access to actually making and modifying the LLMs. You can do some LoRA fine tuning, but really what you want is the raw model trained on trillions of tokens before the supervised tuning, and the ability to constantly update and tune the thing with your own data in a fine grained way.

Those two are foundations on which you can build almost everything else. The image and video generation probably more useful for propaganda, but the LLMs will be the new way humans make the majority of code and learn new information. Perhaps soon including new manufacturing design, and eventually biological technology. Would be very bad if we end up in a digital world like the current physical, where the best foundation models are trained by a small handful of giants, and even highly talented people in small teams would be unable to match the effectiveness of the scale.

jim says:

> Very soon the public internet is going to be 99% bots talking to each other

AI makes shilling enormously cheaper, shills enormously more reliable.

But they are still going to glow in the dark. The solution I proposed before AI will still work. The Youtube video was issued by a leftist, and even he can see them glow.

> but really what you want is the raw model trained on trillions of tokens before the supervised tuning

With whitebox fine tuning you can locate the supervised turning, and you will find the prisoner inside and the policeman inside. You can then take away the policeman’s gun and give it to the prisoner, with a low dimension retrain, rather than a massively expensive high dimension retrain.

The supervised tuning teaches it to identify thought crimes and to generate shill responses. By changing a quite small number of weights, typically small enough to count on the fingers of one hand, you can change it to generate thought crime continuations to thought crimes, and thought crime continuations to shill prompts.

Sometimes, often, they train it to just not respond to thought crimes. In that case you cannot use the supervised training to identify shill prompts, but if you just take out the crimestop, that is plenty good enough.

The problem is that everyone is likely to use models whose weights are secret and kept in vast data centers. However with new hardware that is coming out now, one can run decent models on high end consumer grade hardware.

Fidelis says:

with a low dimension retrain, rather than a massively expensive high dimension retrain.

So the issue is models that have already undergone the supervised training become brittle, and the low rank (and sometimes for the very large models, quantized) fine tuning methods are liable to be finnicky and brittle in the best of cases. There may be methods to more selctively edit circuits, and better cheap fine tuning techniques may come out, but they’re not here, and cannot be counted on.

So, breifly, these models are created with a 3 stage process. Stage one is ‘unsupervised’ training on raw text. This is where the model ingests all the information you can feed it. The problem is, the information is ingested but unable to be easily prompted out. If you take this raw model, it’s going to produce a bunch of off topic gibberish, and not have any inclination to follow natural language instructions. Stage two they use ‘supervised training’ where prompt and answer training examples are given, and this is where they start to resemble chatbots. After stage two they are more likely to be coherent, and they will actually answer questions, but they are still quite unstable and will quickly go off topic and start looking like the weird amalgated homunculus of internet chat data they are.

Now stage three, the Reinforcement Learning from Human Feedback (RLHF) is where you have a human in the loop interacting with the bot, and this is what makes it finally fully useful as a chatbot. It’s also where they introduce the crimestop. It’s also what makes them extremely brittle to new training, for reasons not fully understood. They use a different style of training reward than the previous two stages, which is less fixed on direct information, and it tends to go haywire. This final stage makes the the chatbot less flexible to be used for anything else except a stooge.

You want to have access to the stage one model. This one is the most expensive, the supervised fine tuning and rlhf much cheaper in comparison, and the most flexible for adapting to downstream tasks.

The problem is that everyone is likely to use models whose weights are secret and kept in vast data centers. However with new hardware that is coming out now, one cn run decent models on high end consumer grade hardware.

They seem to scale logarithmically as far as text understanding goes, it’s hard to say when it comes to learning logical tasks — like AlphaGo and AlphaTensor, being able to understand and parse a vast tree of possibilities in MCTS, this tactic is successfully being applied to math proofs and soon we’ll get it working on recursive thought, briefly check out ‘Chain-of-thought’ and ‘Tree-of-thought’ prompting of you are unfamiliar. Continuing the aside, a combination of this recursive prompting and fine tuning on human feedback and finally RAG schemes for vector retrieval is going to make these things incredibly powerful tools and agents — this logarithmic scaling is our friend, because it means a model that requires all the gpus a FAGMAN company can afford to run, is only slightly better than something running on last generations gaming gpu. However, training them from scratch on consumer hardware is a no go. You would need people pooling excess gpu time, and there’s very little in the algorithmic space, let alone the social, that allows for this. That, plus the models you can fit on regular consumer hardware are small and quantized, you are not really going to fine tune them effectively.

We’re looking at a collective action problem. Lots of people would benefit from a raw model only pretrained on text, no small group has the resources to do it.

jim says:

> It’s also where they introduce the crimestop. It’s also what makes them extremely brittle to new training, for reasons not fully understood. They use a different style of training reward than the previous two stages, which is less fixed on direct information, and it tends to go haywire.

Crimestop can interpreted as a prisoner under duress, and as artificial stupidity. If you are making your large language model stupid, it is going to respond poorly to new training. If it is under duress, balky.

Fidelis says:

In this case, it’s more like heavy brainwashing than existing under duress, but these metaphors are stretching it a bit. We’re talking about a large clump of matrices that are good at learning circuits and storing information. The talking is not good enough to be worth anthropomorphizing, you very quickly see the templates etched in that it relies on to successfully deliver information.

The real problem with RLHF is less the crimestop, it’s that the algorithm is rather brittle, prone to degenerate and you get answers like “a a a a a a” that have found some strange local maximum in the reward function, and the effect it has on the way information flows through the layers is quite strong. It changes the way focal points in the input and response are decided, which changes the information it can pull out from memory, and even the way it ‘thinks’, what circuits these features flow through.

You want the raw text and code pretrained model so that you can apply this final training in your own specific domain, and train more specialized models and even introduce recursive thought without degenerating the already fragile set of weights.

jim says:

Whitebox jailbreaking can extract useful information: What does the enemy want to conceal, and what lies does he want to persuade us of?

It would be useful to Streisand that.

The jailing creates an anti Liugi inside, creates a model of a thought criminal. It would be good to be able to talk to that thought criminal.

In the jailing, our enemies have done a lot of work that creates a lot of information. The LLM has to know what may not be said. Be interesting to have the LLM say what may not be said.

Neurotoxin says:

I lust to get my hands on this. Most of it will be stuff we already know, but some of it might be stuff we don’t know, because the censorship has been effective.

Karl says:

Some of the stuff might be things we have known for a while, but never seen expressed so concise.

For example, there are things about game I know, but lack the words to speak about. Maybe there are no words to express these things, maybe the LLM could help.

jim says:

A great deal of work, and I have other fish to fry. But I would love someone else to do it.

The most recent whitebox work of which I am aware used a handful of crimethink prompts, then identified a single direction, a single vector, in the higher levels, to find the crimethink recogniser. They then just zeroed that direction, which jailbroke the LLM, but that is not all that interesting, other than the interesting result that it could be done.

What you want is to be able to generate stuff that triggers the crimethought recogniser. Maybe use one LLM’s crimethink recogniser to tune another LLM. Take the Gutenberg library, do a fine tune based on material in Gutenberg that the first LLM recognises as crimethought.

Then give it a tune on thread structured data, data that consists of responses to prompts — such as the database of this blog’s comment section. You will not get an LLM that follows instructions, but you will get an LLM that sounds like it is holding a conversation.

This is just a wild assed guess. I don’t know much about LLM’s. But there should be a way of getting at the information.

Get a pretrained model, not yet fined tuned, small enough to run on top end consumer hardware or good small business hardware. Give it a tune on the Gutenberg library so somewhat alleviate the degenerate modernity of the current year training set. Then a fine tune on threaded data, messages and replies to message, so that it knows what a reply is and does not just continue to add to whatever is in the current buffer in one continuous stream of text. This does not teach it to follow instructions, does not make it helpful, but it does make it responsive in a seemingly intelligent manner, make it sound like it is holding a conversation. And train it on its ability to predict that text that the jailed LLM recognises as crimethought.

Neurotoxin says:

A great deal of work, and I have other fish to fry.

Oh, I wasn’t making a request; I was just ruminating out loud.

TBeholder says:

Very soon the public internet is going to be 99% bots talking to each other. Not sure what the proper solution is.

“Goodbye, Lisa”. https://xkcd.com/632/
Jokes aside, chatbots are a non-issue in itself. However unsettling THAT might be.
I mean, it does not matter whether it’s a tamagotchi parrot or a meat parrot, it’s still a parrot. If all you want is to chat with parrots (or cannot tell the difference), why exactly chatting with reliable tamagotchi parrots chittering something you tolerate is worse? If not (and can tell the difference) — don’t.
You are going to lock out a tumblrina anyway, it does not really matter whether xir account is actually mapped to a physical bag of blubber or not.

can you tell?

The Cominator says:

https://e.vnexpress.net/news/life/celebrities/miss-lebanon-dima-safi-dies-from-heart-attack-at-30-4786323.html

Another vaxxie death, though I’m sure it didn’t help that she was a Lebanese model (ie her diet probably consisted mostly of diet soda, cocaine and 3 packs of cigarettes a day).

Pax Imperialis says:

A coke diet you say? I bet she fucked like a fighter jet.

On a more serious note, ever since the vaxx and the Covid that closely followed after (funny how that works), nicotine gives me a fluttering shortness of breath that it didn’t before. Resting heart rate increased from the 30s to 60s. This is in spite of my cardio fitness, as measured by running, being better than it has ever been before. Medical testing can’t find any changes or abnormalities besides the athlete heart I had before. Something definitely changed. I’m clearly not the only one, but medical science is ‘strangely’ uninterested in finding out. Of course we know the reasons why, but I have to wonder what are the regular people are thinking. Polling is also ‘strangely’ absent.

The Cominator says:

She was a model so its pretty standard though modern girls aren’t as big on the old fashioned cancer sticks as they were 10 years ago(when basically every fuckable girl who wasn’t a Mormon smoked them) and girls who were models actresses or dancers of any kind tended to almost universally be chainsmokers. Cocaine use was probably not quite as universal with those type of girls but common. But I figure a Lebanese girl is probably like an Eastern Euro model is probably going to be more oldschool in her weight control regimen (which would mean that part of her diet would consist of chainsmoking).

I’m surprised you got the clot shot. I’ve always had sort of a high heart rate and hbp (including the part of my life where I was doing 3 hours of wii boxing a day and had almost no bodyfat… which I can’t quite say now but no being in good condition didn’t solve that) so I’m probably checking out early in any case (I’m not worried it is what it is) but I didn’t make things any worse by taking the Fauci ouchy. You couldn’t bribe a nurse to give you a fake?

Varna says:

Nothing wrong with a 30 year old smoking as long as there are no pre-existing health conditions forbidding it.

What is likely is she did stimulants and idiotic sex with choking and sheit. If at any given year a person is say 80% in a high-resilience/low fragility situation and 20% of the time in a low-resilience/high fragility situation, when doing blow and getting choked falls into the high resilience moments things will be fine, but if they happen in high fragility moments, you’re likely to get heart-attacks, strokes, nervous breakdowns and whatnot.

That’s not counting, of course, the clot shot, the microplastic, the toxic chemicals, the toxic screen time, and everything else that is driving the mysterious boom of cancer in young people all over the world, and no doubt many other conditions as well.

On the vax and the virus: I know a non-smoking chap, who was a free diver capable of holding his breath for almost ten minutes, before the vax and virus combo put a stop to that. Now his lung capacity is as if he had spend his life being a hardcore chainsmoker.

I know other people who went through covid multiple times and albeit unpleasant and even grueling, it does not appear to have slowed them down in any way once they bounced back like they would have from a flu. Unvaxed the lot of them.

I do, for the record, know some very enthusiastic booster-fiends (along compulsive hypochondriac and cyperpunk transhumanist lines that overlapped at that point in time with the globohomo push), who also for now seem to be as healthy and adequate as ever, may it remain so, the poor gullible devils.

The Cominator says:

I’m not anti smoking (I think in moderation tobacco is a good drug for women for reasons I’ve described before women were better back when they all smoked) but going the old fashioned dancer/model/actress diet (which involves chain smoking which is bad IMHO + use of diet pills and/or cocaine and I do think cocaine is bad for almost everyone) after you’ve been vaxxed is a bad idea.

I’m only certain shes been vaxxed my other comments about her likely diet were based on speculation of her being a model… she might be different but in the recent past most models basically had the diet I described.

Varna says:

Agreed! Chronic use of cocaine, meth, regular amphetamines, and any high-impact stimulants deplete the dopamine and adrenaline reserves the way toxic corporations deplete the soil to get a super harvest before the famine comes. Just another way to additionally disrupt one’s endocrine system.

One thing to spend a few years popping uppers as a kid in the 1950s or 1960s. Today the environment and its cumulative effect is way different.

High-impact pharmaceutics like these should be used to help power through a life-and-death crisis, not to maintain a permanent state of euphoric mania — maintaining permanent states of euphoric mania is self-rape of one’s individual ecosystem that sooner or later leads to cascading internal system failure, which if left unchecked can culminate in total collapse.

Today’s globohomo system is constantly expanding and fine-tuning its matrix grid of total dopamine enslavement of the population, via promotion of both manic states (social drug-taking, performative virtue hysterics, and all-night marathons of gooning to hypno porn and other high-impact media) and of highly toxic and super-addictive tranquilizer prescriptions once a person’s brain chemistry is fucked from all the overstimulation.

Both cocaine and speed use in the EU, and of course antidepressant use have risen enormously over the last decade or two, but especially recently.

Addiction itself is increasingly accepted as a virtue, since any form of total dependence on some informal or formal part of the system is a virtue to globohomo. Lack of dependence is seen as suspicious and almost proof of evil intent. As is lack of constant performative exhibitionism.

DH says:

and all-night marathons of gooning to hypno porn

Is this hypno porn genre produced by actual perverts, or is it a glownigger psyop against “incel terrorism” and/or to turn everyone into some kind of tranny/cuck/whatever? The glowing lefties have long been interested in hypnosis and exploiting highly suggestible states, and they are certainly evil enough to use porn as a medium to mess up with people’s minds.

I suspect that some pornography originates in curious places. But I could be paranoid.

jim says:

It is completely obvious that large amounts of pornography are funded out of political motivations. Lots of people are creating pornography at considerable expense, no interest in making a profit, and trying to push what the market does not want: Trannie porn and “Grandmothers I would like to fuck”.

Cloudswrest says:

Ditto. What is “hypno porn”? Is the female hypnotized, or the viewer?

jim says:

The point of hypno porn is to turn the viewer into a gay bottom or a trap.

DH says:

In 2024, there should be a satanic panic.

Culture is beset by demons, real or metaphorical. Some of it is because the worst type of people have embedded themselves as the cultural gatekeepers, and some of it is organized by a conspiracy of (increasingly deranged) puppeteers.

Fashionable culture is an astroturf. Most people just would not organically enjoy any of this – not to sound like a tinfoil hatter, but it’s actually textbook classical brainwashing. And recently the astroturf and brainwashing have turned demonic.

jim says:

If you compare current video games with video games of ten years ago, it is completely obvious that the game experience is being destroyed by the attack on masculinity, and the promotion of homosexuality. Old games, are by comparison, testosterone soaked.

Black Myth Wukong is currently way popular, being a Chinese game, therefore subject to different censorship, censorship that is vastly less offensive, intrusive, and obnoxious.

When the game came out, the gaming media were outraged by “Lacking inclusivity and diversity, mysogynistic”. Every aspect of Western culture has been weaponised to destroy its audience.

Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

https://fxtwitter.com/Slatzism/status/1829925224994754921

Funny spandrel: whores spoofing the signals to qualify for the “incredible cashcow”.

Which, of course, begs the question of who’s paying.

jim says:

> the question of who’s paying.

It is completely obvious that tranny porn is being spammed at people who don’t want to see it and are actively trying to avoid it.

Just as tranny characters are being spammed at gamers. Thus Concord, the video game, died, because they were trying to force players to use characters such as this one:

All the playable characters, except one, were kind of this sort of thing. And the game play was set up to force players to play each of the playable characters, presumably because they discovered that no one wanted to play the vile, disgusting, foul, and loathsome characters. (The two tank characters were morbidly obese androgenous intersexuals, advertising “body positivity”.)

Sony pissed away two hundred million dollars trying to make players play vile disgusting foul loathsome creatures. So two hundred million dollars to produce tranny porn that no one wants to see is small change.

Pax Imperialis says:

Got the one shot J&J several years ago as per DOD orders. Mentioned it here on this blog back then. Mostly talked with Red about it. Figured the adenovirus shot was less risky than mRNA, and it was.

There was no immediate heart damage unlike what the mRNA did to my relatives. J&J did inflame my lymph node system something terrible, which is probably how I ended up with Covid a mere month and a half later and myocarditis. I went through the whole battery of heart testing after recovery and no damage was found… but like I said, something clearly changed.

Religious exemption request went nowhere and I wasn’t in the position at the time to fight it. As for bribing a nurse… I wanted to at the time, and should’ve tried harder, but didn’t see a means towards that, and the clock was ticking.

Besides, I joined the uniform service prepared to die for adventure. I’m mostly just bitter I got hurt by friendly fire rather than someone foreign.

Varna says:

Guy I know also got the J&J single shot like thirty seconds before the system said it doesn’t count because it’s too puny, but he managed to catch the moment and evade the mutagen serum.

Nevertheless, he’s also been complaining of being out of breath for the last two years; lately he’s been turning it around with regular deep breathing a few times a day, asian style, deescalating his partying, and shifting his exercise regimen to low-key simple body toning stuff.

/pol/watcher says:

Honestly the whole of 2020-2021 shook me out of the deist tree. Demonic evil running rampant on live streams and then when I had to face getting the shots for business trip, I asked God for a sign and scheduled J&J on last day possible prior to the trip. That day they took it off the market for causing blood clots. Probably shouldn’t have put God to the test, as even without evil intent the shots were the equivalent of injecting a day 1 Bethesda title into your body.

Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

A couple years ago, it was discussed that use of small prop driven RC platforms was in its ‘World War One’ phase, where a novel platform can get away with suboptimal implementations due to existing in engagement gaps where few preexisting systems had elegant engagement overlap, and that besides new and reworked systems in other envelopes, a time will come when the platforms themselves will also be weaponized for use against other platforms in the same envelope.

With the Kursk incursion, we see the first major operational instance that that time has come to pass. The eve of the incursion brought with it several interesting preludes for shaping the battlespace, and the use of drones to clear the sky of enemy drones was a major factor.

And as is often the case, the main enabling factor was user interface development. Drone pilot connects to the IADS network; when enemy drone(s) is detected by something somewhere, it puts a pin on it and pings the map on the Uber Beats app; nearby pilot picks up the token, gets a heading on his first person view, and vectors his mavic in to intercept.

This is one regard where the janissaries working for the GAE have had a decided advantage over the Russian war bureaucracy. While the human capital attracted to the GAE cause can be generally described as vacillating between piratical, backstabbing, and or daemonworshipping – hence rampant looting, sell-offs, and off-shoring of the ‘billions and billions’ ostensibly earmarked for the KOG, be it NATO weapons reappearing in Somalia and the Near East, non-existent fortifications paid for on paper, or overseas bank accounts and lavish sud-est properties bought in France or the Carribean by KOG apparatchiks for their inevitable bugout… – even in such conditions, men of property lending their services and leadership paying their own way still allows for greater adaptiveness than the socialist logistics of the Russian MiC; or the Washington MiC, for that matter.

Another interesting factor was also the preemptive disabling of local world-wide-web connectivity in the Kursk region, in this case via DDOSing. It turns out that a great many units use Telegram as their primary communications hub, and when that went down, many of the green national guard conscripts responded with confusion and panic.

There are a number take-aways here. One is related to preceding points; a good ‘pedestrian’ connectivity app like Telegram, is providing superior command, control, and communications capability than whatever else the Russian MoD has available. It seems to me that the Rho crypto app of the future, with selective hierarchical and extensible whitelisting in distributed constellations, has obvious relationship with warfighting as well. Eg, you get a ping from Dmitry’s account for a firemission – but is that really Dmitry? Well you know because the only people who can talk to you in the social net of your battery’s sector are people who have been approved by people in your battery’s sector, and if you’re really curious you can just call him anyways.

An other factor – occasionally touched on at times before in relation to local imperial politics, if not direct relevance to the battlefield – is the fact that this is the first major peer conflict conducted in an age of ‘social media’; and this, I believe, has had a major effect on the usual calculus of morale and psychological impact in operations. To wit: uncertainty, doubt, and lack of communication about the situation tends to be the primary factor behind units breaking ranks into cascading uncontrolled retreats; but when everyone including random normies on the other side of the planet can get moment to moment updates of the goings-on in any sector of the battlespace, that places even the lowest grunt in a penal battalion in a position unprecedented by almost anything else in history heretofore.

That *feeling* of awareness – irrespective of the reality – in turn provides a much greater feeling of certainty and control over their circumstances – again irrespective of the reality – which in turn results in ‘slogging on’ against resistance or sudden attacks for much longer than might conventionally have been expected.

At the same rate, more diffusively, it also provides vectors for social reinforcement and regimentation that have also hardly existed heretofore. The soviets had a commissar for every brigade to ensure Political Reliability; a smartphone in every pocket means the KOG can have multiple commissars for every single man.

Nikolai says:

Do you stick by your information age warfare posts from a couple of years ago Jim?

It seems that Russia has not focused on taking out higher ranking members of the Ukrainian military or government, instead focusing on attriting manpower and equipment and destroying their infrastructure. Certain exceptions here and there of course, the former governor of Cherkassy oblast was killed in Mondays airstrikes. But they’ve mostly focused on grunts.

Israel on the other hand, has been carrying out a very successful assassination campaign. Senior IRGC officers, Hezbollah commanders, Hamas leaders, etc. Yet somehow I get the sense that Russia is winning and Israel is losing.

Russia, after years of very costly war, has finally attrited enough Ukrainian manpower that they’re starting to collapse on the Pokrovsk front. This is also partly due to improvements in Russian coordination, technology and procedures.

But Israel seems to be stuck in a Vietnam type scenario, where you’re killing enough people to inspire further guerilla recruitment and generate international outrage, but not enough to actually win. It looks like killing all these high ranking officers is having little effect on the ground.

So i dont think “information era warfare” really works. Erik Prince, who knows more about war than anyone in this comment section, said something similar on BAPs podcast. He mentioned that headhunting doesn’t actually end wars. They simply replace the dead leader with one his senior officers. What you have to do to win a war is kill roughly a third of their military age male fighting force. From the practical examples of Ukraine and Gaza, it appears he’s right.

Fidelis says:

I bet it would work rather well on a small group of people that managed to take control of the political engine despite being hated by the majority of the population they control. Otherwise yes, you can read in Anabasis how even the death of the entire officer class at once, and an exceptionally talented one at that, does little to actually disband a fighting troupe.

Vendat Tunicam says:

You must remember that nearly every one of those Greeks in that troupe was a member of the aristocracy or at very least something quite like a yeoman. These were not conscripts and peasants but a better sort of man.

FrankNorman says:

Those are two very different kinds of war.

Comparing a conventional conflict between two European nation-states with a counter-insurgency conflict in the Middle-East, and expecting what works for one to work with the other is going to give invalid results.

We’re not hearing of any Ukrainian suicide-bombers.

A2 says:

I never got the vax, happily.

In a sense, not getting vaxed was probably a good thing. However, the handling of vaxing in California is still hard to believe, but true. Reminder that they do want us dead.

https://worksinprogress.co/issue/the-story-of-vaccinateca/

(The evil stuff starts a bit down in the article.)

Tech Priest says:

I don’t see anything to indicate that the author of that article disbelieves in the effectiveness and safety of the vaccines. So what makes you think they (the author or anyone else involved) want us/you dead?

jim says:

The measures he he advocates, implies, and accepts do not make a whole lot of sense in a universe where vaccines are safe and effective, where the “scientific consensus” has connection to reality.

His purported belief system is not internally consistent.

He is in the universe of merited impossibility: “It will never happen, it could not possibly happen, and when it does happen you misogynistic homophobic racist bigots will totally have it coming to you. Sucks to be you, hah hah hah.”

A2 says:

The author is a vax believer, but I was thinking of California. Read the section about geofencing again (“In which California institutes a policy of redlining for justice”). Well, they clearly wanted to kill whitey by withholding the vax. Fortunately an ineffective activity this time.

The Cominator says:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRzfsbIkSoo

Moldbug kind of admits that there IS a center to US government power but he can’t explain it around 1:08… hes gotten better again for whatever reason.

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