Venezuelan conflict

Venezuala is yet another step towards World War III.

Venezuela implemented a bunch of utterly catastrophic and self destructive economic policies. Among these was the rational sounding policy of capturing Venezuela’s vast oil wealth which was going abroad, and applying it to the purposes of Venezuelan government.

This resulted in the US issuing a bunch of economic sanctions, similar to those applied to Russia, but vastly less extreme. The damage done by those sanctions was probably insignificant compared to the damage Venezuela did to itself.

The US government then attempted to color revolution Venezuela, but this failed dismally, because Venezuela was run by leftists who were veterans of color revolution, and knew their opponent’s playbook — had in fact been taught the playbook by their opponent’s Ngos.

The Venezuelan politicals took over management of the oil industry in Venezuela, which predictably collapsed. Like the rest of the private economy in Venezuela.

Venezuela then reached out to Russian oil companies, who set about restoring oil production. This was a somewhat Thermidorian policy, since the Russian oil companies understandably insisted on making a profit and refused to have the politicals interfering in management.

This, of course, was violation of the Monroe doctrine, which really pissed off America. Hence war threats from the Trump administration. Their idea of Thermidor was that Venezuela should let US oil companies do what the Russian oil companies are now doing.

Well, said Russia, if you can stick your oar into our boat, we are going to stick our oar into your boat. So Russia sent military advisers and military equipment to Venezuela, and its warships visited Venezuelan waters. Which is a really big violation of the Monroe doctrine, which pissed off America even more.

This is a substantial and significant step towards World War III

The obvious solution is to the US to concede to the Russian 2022 ultimatum.

“Measures to Ensure the Security of the Russian Federation and Member States of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization” – addressed to NATO.
A separate bilateral proposal to the United States on “Security Guarantees.”

America’s rejection of this ultimatum led to disastrous Ukraine war, and is now threatening to lead to a similarly disastrous Venezuelan war.

The substance of the ultimatum is “How about us nuclear powers agree to stop this stuff” Seems like a good idea. At the time in was only the US doing this stuff, so the proposed treaty seemed one sided, a US capitulation, but Russia is now demonstrating that two can play at this game, a game likely lead to nuclear war.

I predict that Trump will bluster, but then blink. US forces will not enter Venezuela. But blinking looks weak, is weak, and when Kiev collapses, going to look even weaker. Better to cut something like the 2022 deal.

Wildly escalating welfare rolls and wildly escalating deficits has made the west economically weak. The war on males, masculinity, marriage, and family has made the west militarily weak. It is time to cut our clothes to match our cloth.

We need to remedy the problem of a huge number of voters imported live on crime, welfare, government jobs and quasi governmental jobs, and we need to restore order in the collapsing megalopoli. We need to restore masculinity and marriage 1.0. But even if we do these things, the west will remain weak for decades, and must assume an international posture that matches its much diminished capabilities while focusing on internally rebuilding its strength.

516 comments Venezuelan conflict

Pax Imperialis says:

Lots of similar shit during Cold War of sticking dicks in places they don’t belong, but tensions remained managed to the extent it never went to WW3 though we did come close a time or two. Trump and Putin are both fairly reasonable leaders, and while both may impose costs on each other in tit for tat fashion, it will likely default back into a Cold War framework. I’m not terribly alarmist about the situation unless the US political situation deteriorates.

Pax Imperialis says:

Even if Russia and America come to an agreement, there is still political, diplomatic, and economic incentive to “punish” Venezuela.

Jim says:

Time to punish Venezuela once Trump and Putin have a deal whereby the US leaves Eastern Europe alone, and Russia leaves the Empire of the Ocean Lands alone.

Punishing it now is not a good idea.

suones says:

Punishing it now is not a good idea.

On the contrary, punishing it now is an extremely good idea from an anti GAE POV. If 1776 was a giant shit test for Great Britain, Monroe doctrine was an upgraded shit test for the other Christian Empire with large American possessions, viz: Spain. Spain failed that test, of course, leading to worse and worse tests until Harvard sank their own ship to give a fake casus belli against Spain, at the time when they were ready for war, some seven decades later. Remember the Maine?

This is GAE standard mode of operation. They did the same with Lusitania, then again with Pearl Harbor. USSR didn’t have the guts for it in Cuba, I doubt Putin has the guts (or even the ability to project force that far away — Russia is but a pale shadow of USSR) for it in Venezuela. But it is a sound strategy. If war with GAE is inevitable, it is better to do it at a time and place of one’s own choosing, rather than that of GAE’s choosing.

PS: GAE is never going to “leave” EE. They can’t reverse their expansionist ratchet. If anyone else is to survive, catastrophic military defeat of GAE is the only way.

Bix Nudelmann says:

Guys use your heads. This might be a 4D move to gin up something (out of thin air) to trade Ukraine for. Trump hands over Ukraine, and Putin hands over Venezuela. Just like the Cuban missile crisis. Face is saved and everybody wins.

A cheap negotiating trick, but perhaps enough.

(“Trust the plan”?)

Your Uncle Bob says:

When I still found him worth reading, one of Steve Sailer’s maxims that rang true was that triple bank shots in politics never work. Which does not mean they’re never attempted, but the maxim does seem to predict their success or failure pretty reliably.

Still… maybe? It might very well be some bright boy’s idea, and if ginning up trouble to trade it away counts as only a single or double bank shot, just maybe it might work.

But it seems more likely to me it’s just GAE in exile doing what it does, and their court eunuchs and our own tame chickenhawks arguing for it at court.

Gedeon says:

If you query “maduro israel” through for favorite information gateway, what returns?

Encelad says:

https://archive.is/5uWU6

I don’t know how reliable the article above is, but it basically states that the US cannot build military ships anymore due to deindustrialization and corruption (it doesn’t say “corruption” explicitly, but you can read between the lines).

A similar article (which I can’t find anymore) stated that the yearly production of artillery shells is less than the yearly amount of shells sent to Ukraine. Which if true it means the US is losing an attrition war even if it is participating indirectly.

Jim says:

> the US cannot build military ships anymore

I have been aware of this for many, many years.

Pax Imperialis says:

No, US can build military ships and it’s somehow worse than not building them at all.

Jim says:

The US has been attempting to build military ships, and things claimed to be military ships were delivered, but they were non functional. This demonstrates that the US can no longer build ships.

Pax Imperialis says:

Stuff is still getting built but it’s really bad. That’s my point. Poorly designed, massively over budget, project canceled after just a few built, ad-hoc weapon load out because nothing that was planned for came to fruition. Can still blow up third world pirate ships, but mostly target practice for peer threats.

Alf says:

OK OK a bit in the vein of
“it’s terrible!”
“-no it’s horrible!”

Pax Imperialis says:

Sort of. When pointing out the degrading capabilities to normies, they often point out that yes, “stuff” is still being built. The argument then has to shift to pointing out what is being built is disastrously bad in comparison to what should be happening and in comparison to the past. An argument that often works. It’s easier to thus start with the latter argument rather than the former.

Rando says:

It’s not just ships. I’m seeing new construction projects for such basic necessities as treating drinking water fail just as miserably. Needless to say, empowered women “engineers” and brown hands were deeply involved throughout these projects.

Adam says:

You should see what home construction is like. Brand new 3 mil McMansions and you can’t find a straight wall in the place. This is why drywall textures are so common.

Tejano Bob says:

Its an infection called “Move fast and break things.”

MBAs hate listening to BSEs that make more money than them.

So the MBA:
1. builds a water treatment plant without following the BSE processes and breaks stuff
2. …???…
3. PROFIT!

Contaminated NEET says:

What the hell is a BSE?

Tejano Bob says:

Bachelor of Science, Engineering

KHP says:

You should be saying PE, then, because the BSEs that haven’t gotten their PE don’t have sign off authority on anything.

Tejano Bob says:

The answer to why I used BSE and not PE is in your question.

Jim says:

Tejano Bob’s point is that the bean counters do not know what they are doing, and the people who do know what they are doing do not have sign off authority, and should.

Keel Hauler says:

The San Antonio and Virginia class warships are successful. We need a Ray Spruance to emerge and lead. It’s a quarter of the way into the new century and yet we are here. First step, MBA’s go to jail for corruption and racketeering. Second step, we train shipyard workers and commit to longterm skilled labor agreements. Third to N step require Spru or we continue to wallow.

Humungus says:

The US government then attempted to color revolution Venezuela, but this failed dismally, because Venezuela was run by leftists who were veterans of color revolution, and knew their opponents playbook.

Well said… This was a puny plan to deflect from more pressing and unsolvable problems. Namely, Ukraine which no longer has an honorable compromise until Zelensky is eliminated.

Bix Nudelmann says:

Lend me your mind, Humungus. Why haven’t the Zelensky-stein regime punked out with the cash by now? Is there literally nowhere left they can flee to that’s safe enough? And safe enough from whom?

The Cominator says:

He leaves office hes a dead man. Even the Eurofags are not going to trust him once he outlived his usefulness, hes hated by too many people (especially in Ukraine I imagine), hes a drug addict and drug addicts tend to have big mouths.

Humungus says:

>”Lend me your mind, Humungus. Why haven’t the Zelensky-stein regime punked out with the cash by now? Is there literally nowhere left they can flee to that’s safe enough? And safe enough from whom?”

Com’s reply seems reasonable.

Zelensky fears his inevitable end. He was a useful puppet and now he will become a useful scapegoat.

He could hide out in a desert somewhere. A country with no extradition. Lot’s of things are forgotten there. The desert wasteland is vast.

Jim says:

> He was a useful puppet and now he will become a useful scapegoat.

Take a look at all the “last days of Hitler” videos. They demonise Hitler and unfairly represent him as insane and irrational. Zelensky ‘s tactics are far more murderous towards his own forces than Hitler’s were. Once the war is lost, he is likely to be demonised worse.

If you are losing a war of attrition, and are unwilling to accept a surrender on terms vastly worse than the those of the enemy implicit or explicit ultimatum that started the war, then it is rational to adopt an essentially exterminationist policy towards your own army and your own subjects, in the hope that something might turn up.

The initial ultimatums reflected what the sides thought the cost of war was likely to be, reflected their guess as to their own strength and will, and their opponents strength and will.

The war revealed actual strength and will, so the terms offered to the losing side are going to get worse and worse as the war progresses. At the start of the war, both sides know their own cards, and have a good guess of the enemy’s cards, and make offers reflecting what they think the cards are. As the war progresses, the losing side has few and fewer cards, and is offered a worse and worse deal.

Hitler’s “fortress cities” strategy was a rational tactic to maximise the costs to the Russians. He wanted his troops to fight to the end, to fight to the last man, in heavily fortified positions that were difficult for the Russians to attack. But he could not actually tell them. “Sit tight and fight to the death”, because they would likely run away or surrender. So he told them to fight until relieved, and promised relief forces that were imaginary, nonexistent or unlikely to arrive. If his generals started retreating to preserve their forces, what would would they be preserving them for? If not expended in the fortress cities, where expended?

Hitler’s policy was rational given that he wanted to delay the end as long as possible and thus wanted every German to die with him.

Zelensky’s tactics however are not rational for maximising Russia’s costs, but are rational to maximise Zelensky’s graft. Given that Zelensky wants to maximise graft, he wants to delay any substantial movement of the lines for as long as possible. Hitler’s policy led to his troops being trapped in the fortress cities — Zelensky is getting his troops trapped in every village and every patch of trees.

Hitler would trap his own forces in the fortress cities so that they would fight to the death and take as many Russians with them as possible. Zelenksy is trapping his own forces in places that were often very weak, in order to delay movement as much as possible, rather than maximise Russian casualties as much as possible. Zelensky regularly gets his own forces trapped in places where they get slaughtered like turkeys. Hitler at least trapped his own forces in places where it was costly and difficult to slaughter them.

Bix Nudelmann says:

I understand that in their race to Berlin, the Red Army would often “simply” go around the Germans’ fortress cities, and not even try to capture or kill them, but just keep them stationary (hungry) and out of the game.

I hope the Russians will start employing a similar tactic soon, if they haven’t already. They’re relatives after all. Have a heart, you guys.

Bix Nudelmann says:

I’m black pilling, man. All I can perceive is that death is the point now. First, it was to kill off as many Russian and Ukrainian men as possible, but now it’s to kill off European men in general. Then shit Africans and Indians all over the continent and “finish the job”.

Something something, hyperinflation, reset of trade and reserve currencies, etc.

I just can’t imagine what else these freaks might have in mind. Let them just have the “frozen Russian assets”. They can bill me instead. Fuck it.

FrankNorman says:

That’s been a conspiracy theory for a long time. Longer than you might think.

A2 says:

“First, it was to kill off as many Russian and Ukrainian men as possible, but now it’s to kill off European men in general. Then shit Africans and Indians all over the continent and “finish the job”.”

I think the enthusiasm among potential conscripts in Western Europe for far-flung military adventures is very limited. Not even considering that a large part of the young men are brown or black and are unlikely to be conscripted or accept their fate.

You need imperial pro forces for that sort of thing, and today that’s the US and the UK. Possibly the French Foreign Legion but they won’t be going to Ukraine alone any time soon. Who are willing to stand up in Eastern Europe? The Baltic states are fierce but more of a road bump, I think. Poland perhaps?

There is also the option of an Arctic/Baltic War. I thought I saw some signs of this in the last year or so and Jim has mentioned Kaliningrad as a flashpoint. If so, the kebabification of the Nordic home front shall in the meantime be completed.

Karl says:

Of course, the enthusiasm of potential conscripts in Western Europe is very limited, but so is the enthusiasm of Ukranian conscripts. They are drafted despite their lack of enthusiam.

Conscription works in Ukraine. It will also work in Western Europe. Is there any historical example where drafting unwilling conscripts did not work?

Granted armies of unwilling conscripts don’t fight well, but so what? That war is not fought to be won, it is fought to get the conscripts killed.

A2 says:

I don’t think losing Western conscripts in great numbers in Ukraine — and for what rewards exactly? — will be very popular; just compare to traumatic Vietnam and its aftermath. But that’s apparently where our leaders want to go. They could be bluffing, since the whole situation must seem kind of stupid from the EU PoV … one can hope.

Jim says:

The Ukraine project was Jews figuring they could use National Socialists to sic whites onto whites.

The trouble with cohesion on the basis of race is that it does not work for whites — we are just not like that. If you try for one monolithic authority that controls everything, there is always going to be lethal white on white violence over who is that one monolithic authority.

We can only work together on the basis of liberty. So an overly powerful and intrusive state is always going to wind up eradicating whites, even if it has an ideology based on racial cohesion, for no matter what it theoretically believes, it will always find whites are an obstacle to its power.

This is why rho is an agorist project, explicitly racially and religious neutral even though I am a reactionary. Whites can only thrive on something with substantial agorist characteristics.

I am reactionary, because a democracy will always become overly intrusive (elections devolve into advance auctions of stolen goods) and an overly intrusive democratic government is always going to dissolve the old people and elect a new people that it hopes will be more compliant.

Bix Nudelmann says:

The trouble with cohesion on the basis of race is that it does not work for whites — we are just not like that.

This is among the most crucial and enlightening pearls of truth that’s ONLY availble on this one and only blog, right here. I’ve never seen it mentioned, even obliquely, anywhere else, ever. So please don’t stop.

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Ultima says:

The Syria aftermath does raise the question if Russia has the stomach to get directly involved in going to bat for Venezuela, if the US is indeed serious about openly throwing their weight around there. On logistics alone it seems like a tremendous headache.

jaggard says:

speaking of trump’s wars

https://ronpaulinstitute.org/stealth-bombers-and-bunker-busters/

“As for the B-2: it is a big fat subsonic aircraft. It flies at airliner speeds. A strike on Fordow would entail flying at least 500 miles in and out of Iran.

It is nonsense that the B-2 is effectively invisible. It can be tracked from long distances, and targeted sufficiently well that missiles with effective terminal guidance (thermal / optical) can kill it.”

“Maybe a few B-2s launched some JASSMs from over Iraq or the Caspian Sea. Maybe nothing but sub-launched Tomahawks hit Iranian targets. But it certainly wasn’t GBU-57 “Bunker Buster” bombs dropped by a half-dozen B-2s casually flying in Iranian airspace for an hour.

And whatever was dropped inflicted no meaningful damage. ”

At any rate, it could be argued that trump’s attack against the Persians wasn’t too serious, so if not a “peace president”, to his credit at least he didn’t execute a full neocon operation. That is, assuming the contents of the article to be true.

dharmicreality says:

RE: The Empire Debate
I have been a staunch anti-imperialist right from the beginning and I must disagree that Empires for profit are fundamentally different from the do-gooder Empires of the globohomo variety. Indeed the do-gooder Empires start off as for-profit Empires mostly.

So on this I must differ with Jim and Pax. Empires may very well start off for profit motive, but over a generation or two of ruling over “inferior” people so to speak, they end up gaining the characteristics of globohomo to a greater or lesser degree and the rot always starts there. The admixture of different races in a single Empire complicates things further, with the colonial subjects eventually demanding equal rights as the Empire’s home subjects.

Imposing a common state religion on people of different races never worked well.

Take the Mughal Empire. Classic example. Like any other Desert cultist, started off as for-profit raids by our north-western neighbours in Central Asia and eventually the Empire became the globohomo of its time by its third generation, and rotted from within, eventually killed off by civil war, the Marathas and finally the British nailing their coffin.

So why didn’t the East India Company nominal rule remain in India and why did the British crown take over direct administration? Again, overreach of Empire. East India so long as it remained a “for-profit” enterprise, wisely allowed local rulers to manage the internal affairs, “settled” conflicts between local rulers from time to time to extend their influence, and demanded tribute from time to time. This was probably the best balance an Empire can achieve. Not satisfied however, the British Crown took over formally and established the roots of resentment because they were do-gooders and wanted to “uplift natives” by imposing the British faith and British values on a Hindu majority population.

On the other hand, if the Empire must remain “for profit” over more than a generation, your rule needs to become increasingly brutal and oppressive at which point the “natives” will revolt and you get a situation that you end up with a hostile foreign populace or even a hostile foreign army at your doorstep. Because there will always be growing resentment over foreign rule, regardless of how “inferior” your subjects are. Jalal-ud-Din was the peak globohomo Emperor of his time and even he couldn’t curtail the increasing resentment of his Hindu subjects.

So Empires always ends up being the white man’s burden and then guilt.

Jim says:

> Imposing a common state religion on people of different races never worked well.

Tell it to Mohammed.

Anglicanism has died in England, but it still lives in black Africa.

> On the other hand, if the Empire must remain “for profit” over more than a generation, your rule needs to become increasingly brutal and oppressive at which point the “natives” will revolt

You guys got on fine as subjects of the for profit East India Company — you only revolted when it turned do-gooder. Their benevolence proved far less endurable than their avarice. The East India company turned dogooder 1840 or before — I wrote a post on the topic long ago, Indian revolt nearly twenty years later..

“Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron’s cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience”.

dharmicreality says:

Tell it to Mohammed.

It really hasn’t worked well as an Empire has it? Desert cult has the ambition of global domination, but no two Islamic nations have really been truly “at peace” with each other. There has been far more war than peace between the various desert cultist factions themselves.

dharmicreality says:

You guys got on fine as subjects of the for profit East India Company

The East India company was not an Empire, though it got the trappings of one later on. The issue is the locals were largely left to govern themselves, except when two local kings fought, the EIC intervened for their own benefit to “settle” the dispute one way or the other, taking a side depending on the benefit offered by the parties.

As I said before, this worked well as a fine balance, but why did the British crown take over if it was going all that well? Empires always want to over-extend. It’s the nature of the beast, unless tightly controlled.

Jim says:

> The East India company was not an Empire, though it got the trappings of one later on. The issue is the locals were largely left to govern themselves,

That is what an empire is. A bunch of Kings under an Emperor. When the Emperor starts himself directly ruling everything, it is a unitary nation — usually a very bad unitary nation because a multitude of very different people are packed into it.

The type specimen of Empire is the Holy Roman Empire, which was, towards the end, vastly less cohesive than the East India company.

Similarly when we call the US an empire — it does not directly and openly run France and England.

Dharmicreality says:

But local kings get less and less sovereignty over time and it becomes very close to direct rule in a couple of generations as is the case with Globohomo where the European states don’t even bother to exercise even nominal sovereignty in their own internal affairs instead choosing to implement globohomo doctrine. A common currency is the most visible sign of Empire becoming more and more centralized and oppressive.

Globohomo certainly is at that stage.

Jim says:

Over centralisation certain is a very common way that empires decline and fall. But, on the other hand, the Holy Roman Empire fell of the opposite ailment, becoming less and less centralised.

Ideally an empire would stabilise at a level of centralisation sufficient to prevent the wars of subject Kings from getting too far out of hand, and not much more centralisation than that.

jaggard says:

>Ideally an empire would stabilise at a level of centralisation sufficient to prevent the wars of subject Kings

So that’s like the allegedly libertarian, minimal government theory, that never works in practice?

Also, if in order to stop wars you need to subject countries to a higher authority, then it’s obvious that all countries should be ruled by one emperor, and you end up with a world government.

I think anybody advocating not only government but empire, should have a very efficient mechanism to prevent “abuses of power” – and I’m not seeing anything of the sort here.

Jim says:

>> Ideally an empire would stabilise at a level of centralisation sufficient to prevent the wars of subject Kings

>So that’s like the allegedly libertarian, minimal government theory, that never works in practice?

Except that some actual empires, notably the Holy Roman Empire did in fact have extreme decentralisation, and some actual Kingdoms did in fact have impressive levels of political freedom.

America theoretically has constitutionally guaranteed freedom of speech, but compare how Hollywood is crippled by slavish robotic adherence to the official faith and official ideology, with the amount of freedom Shakespeare had while working directly for the King as the Kings mouthpiece.

Jim says:

> I think anybody advocating not only government but empire, should have a very efficient mechanism to prevent “abuses of power”

You are pumping Utopian leftist ideology here — which is permitted, but only from people who are capable hearing thought crimes and criticising them in ways that reveal what the thought crime is.

Any mechanism to prevent abuses of power is going to be abused in ways far more terrible than the abuses of power it was proposed to prevent. Look how democracy and the supreme court have worked out.

A fallen and wicked mankind is doomed to bad government, but we can do better than war mongering child sacrificing demon worshippers.

jaggard says:

>You are pumping Utopian leftist ideology here

If by leftist you mean anything that isn’t monarchy, then yes. But calling me a leftist doesn’t add anything new to the discussion.

(and of course I’m not a leftist since I don’t advocate for any govt to provide any “public service”).

>Any mechanism to prevent abuses of power is going to be abused in ways far more terrible than the abuses of power it was proposed to prevent. Look how democracy and the supreme court have worked out.

Replying to both you and Bellum Imperialis. I’m not defending democracy or even limited government. I’m simply asking how are you going to prevent your imperial government and absolute monarchies from doing whatever they want. And I don’t think you have a meaningful answer.

>A fallen and wicked mankind is doomed to bad government, but we can do better than war mongering child sacrificing demon worshippers.

Well you are an advocate of government. The question remains, how do you prevent your admitedly bad government and absolute monarchy from becoming an absolute disaster.

You might have seen the quote…

“Power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely. Great men are almost always bad men, even when they exercise influence and not authority; still more when you superadd the tendency of the certainty of corruption by authority.”

Also, my original topic was the US empire, and the fact that trump shows very little opposition to it, if any.

Pax Imperialis says:

>So that’s like the allegedly libertarian, minimal government theory, that never works in practice?

You must consider time scale. While it’s true that on a long enough time horizon, all systems destabilize and fail and we die, on average (Hans Herman Hoppe lays out the argument in “Democracy the God that Failed”) minimal government theory does exist in practice, and not only exists but on average performs better than nations of similar culture and people, but such a system only exists under monarchy. Why? Because democratic systems are better at justifying and legitimizing wealth extraction (taxation) for bad uses (welfare etc) while a King who taxes too heavily often finds himself a head shorter. The King thus must use the limited income in a much wiser fashion, usually on maintaining just enough centralization required for internal stability and is limited from going so far as say Soviet Union or GAE levels if they are to also still provide for the common defense. On average, you’ll find monarchies have been far less centralized than systems involving voting. The more non-democratic the monarchy, the more stable.

>Also, if in order to stop wars you need to subject countries to a higher authority, then it’s obvious that all countries should be ruled by one emperor, and you end up with a world government.

Not true at all. International law was created by European Monarchies during the Peace of Westphalia. They agreed to stop fucking in each other’s private affairs, and for the most part, prolific, major European wars ended until the age of liberalism and democratic movements reignited war. Now we’re in a state of constant fuckery with each other’s internal affairs. It would take agreement capable leadership to put an end to this, but congresses and other committee style political parties are agreement incapable. Agreements are only stable when between two individuals and become increasingly less stable the larger the signing group becomes.

>I think anybody advocating not only government but empire, should have a very efficient mechanism to prevent “abuses of power” – and I’m not seeing anything of the sort here.

Ah yes, the classic progressive fear of “abuses of power”, often used as justification for not having a King. While every systems in history has abuses. Even King David, anointed by God to lead his people, abused his authority to commit adultery. But again, let us look at average behavior and outcomes. Monarchies tended to abuse their powers in relation to their direct social circle, often those suffering were the aristocracy who where in competition for said power. That is a much smaller group than in democratic systems where abuses are often directed at entire peoples. There were far more genocides, imprisonments of innocents, etc under democratic America than there was under Monarchical England or Monarchical Continental Europe.

The mechanism for dealing with an abusive King is to make him a head shorter. While at times extremely difficult, what is the mechanism for dealing with an abusive, amorphous open society democracy in which there is no center? You could get rid of Soros, and you’ll find nothing has changed. There is no center. You have to get rid of everyone in the political opposition. This is far less efficient than dealing with a single bad Emperor. This is why democratic struggles that spill into shooting wars tend to end up extremely bloody in comparison (Civil War killed 1 in 27 Americans, a truly staggering number and proportion of comparable wars at the time). Today we see the democratic left wants everyone on the right dead, humiliated, their sons castrated, their daughters turned into whores. Should they get into power, there is no mechanism to prevent “abuses of power”, and as we saw with Covid shots, this is true.

jaggard says:

>The mechanism for dealing with an abusive King is to make him a head shorter. While at times extremely difficult, what is the mechanism for dealing with an abusive, amorphous open society democracy in which there is no center?

Your whole post seems to take for granted I’m defending democracy, except I’m not doing that at all. I never denied that democracy is even worse than monarchy.

>The mechanism for dealing with an abusive King is to make him a head shorter.

That sounds fine, but that assumes you can have opposition within an absolutist political system. Which contradicts the premise of absolutism.

Sher Singh says:

Ahh, yes the myth of the Marathas.

Pax Imperialis says:

There is almost always opposition to monarchs within the aristocracy, and absolutism only arose in circumstances of extremely exceptional leaders who after passing away often left the throne to a more normal king which returned to typical monarchy.

Even then, the most absolutest monarchy had far less control and invasive totalitarian tendencies than the most classically liberal democracy.

>Your whole post seems to take for granted I’m defending democracy, except I’m not doing that at all. I never denied that democracy is even worse than monarchy.

Well, when it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck…

Many of your concerns, arguments, and beliefs align with progressive sensibilities. One can only reasonably assume…

Aidan says:

The Holy Roman Empire worked pretty well until Napoleon abolished it. If anything, its later problems were the result of Austria ignoring Western Germany, being legitimately decentralized and hard to govern, and building up a centralized power base in the East, Poland and Hungary. But it’s not as if the empire spun apart due to lack of centralization

alf says:

The Holy Roman Empire worked pretty well until Napoleon abolished it.

The Holy Roman Empire was in much trouble long before that. As early as the 30 year war, which showed that its lack of centralization led to its territories being a war ground for more cohesive forces.

The Silesian wars were the writing on the wall. Prussia, much more than Napoleon, was the death of the HRE.

The Cominator says:

Nah the downfall of the HRE was the wars of religion. It was a pretty cool place the closest humanity has ever been to a functional ancapistan before that.

The Cominator says:

> If by leftist you mean anything that isn’t monarchy, then yes
Elite theory and neoreaction says you can never get democracy in practice but the illusion of democracy in time creates a number of bad effects including eventually incentives to replace the electorate. Other than the dysfunctional late Roman Empire no monarchy ever tried to replace their people.

Monarchy tends to be less absolute and insane than modern party Dictatorships so I would ask what is your preferred alternative to monarchy.

jaggard says:

I am a private-property-anarchist, or consistent classical liberal.

Jim says:

> I am a private-property-anarchist, or consistent classical liberal.

Utopian. If you do not engage in collective coercively organised violence, someone else is going to send an army funded by taxes and conscription to conquer you. After paying a whole lot of professional protesters to scream how their fundamental human rights are being brutally violated by the private property rights of the consistent classical liberals.

Holy war is coming All who fail to worship Moloch and Ishtar and also fail to group up in a big enough gang to resist the worshippers of Moloch and Ishtar, are going to have their hearts torn out by the priests of Moloch or Ishtar, and their bodies rolled down the steps to the temple to be eaten by the worshippers of Moloch and/or Ishtar. The new gods of Covidianity and Transexuality slip their masks and reveal themselves to be very old Gods indeed.

In war one must do dreadful things, and taxation and conscription are the least of those things.

Jim says:

Here is a problem that private property anarchists have been hiding from since forever. Property rights in people. How do you handle marriage and children?

jaggard says:

>Property rights in people.

There are no such rights. Property rights are a relation between people and : land, animals and inanimate tangible objects. People own things, not other people.

>How do you handle marriage and children?

Marriage is an agreement of sorts between a man and a woman. By the way you should tell that to trump and all his “married” faggot neocon accomplices. As to children they are taken care of by their families including parents, grandparents, older siblings, aunts, uncles and the like. “Handling” of children is part of higher animal nature, which in turn is also present in human nature.

So what’s your view? Children are property? And taxation is legitimate? So if you have three children and the tax rate is 30%, one of your children is the property of the government?

Jim says:

> > Property rights in people.

> There are no such rights.

You are making the philosophical and moral argument for marriage 2.0, the family court, and child protective services.

And plainly marriage 2.0 is not working. Men are not getting sex, women are not getting love, and no one is getting grandchildren.

Not to mention that a society with family courts and child protective services does not sound terribly anarcho capitalist.

Good walls it is said, make good neighbours. If no wall between equals, higher authority must regulate their interactions and resolve their conflicts. And there can be no walls between husband and wife, parents and children.

So, you cannot have a society of independent and equal free individuals, only of independent and equal families,

The vast majority of people are just not going to fit into an anarcho capitalist society as sovereign individuals. So, either an extraordinarily powerful and intrusive court system sticking its oar into everyone’s life, or most people are in some ways and some important respects, property.

jaggard says:

>So, you cannot have a society of independent and equal free individuals, only of independent and equal families,

Even granting that, for argument’s sake, it doesn’t follow that children are property. If something is my property, I can do with it whatever I want. I can give it away, rent it, sell it, or even destroy it. Do you think parents have the right to destroy their children?

Jim says:

> Do you think parents have the right to destroy their children?

If parents don’t have that right, that right will be exercised, is being exercised, by people far more likely to exercise that right, by the state and by random thugs strolling through a single mum’s bedroom. If parents don’t have that right, a single mum will let thugs rape her children, and the state will trannify them.

You can only deny one party a right, if another party has that right, and authority to use violence to protect it. Women and children have to be protected by someone. The question then, is, by whom?

And whoever protects them, they cannot have protection from whoever it is that is protecting them. The buck has to stop somewhere. Best it stops with those closest, those most likely to love them.

Men are not getting sex, and women are not getting love. A wife has a right to be cherished, and husband a right to obedience, sex, and domestic service. Marriage having been made illegal, women are not getting love, men are not getting sex, and no one is getting grandchildren.

The Cominator says:

I mean that’d be nice but a lot of things that’ll never happen would be too.

Alf says:

Children are property?

Of course children are their parents’ property, just like a woman belongs to her father at first, to her husband after marriage.

And indeed there absolutely is a war going on between the government’s right of property to your children versus the parents’ right. Just like with taxes, the question is not so much whether or not illegitimate, for the state decides its own legitimacy. The question is, can a state that steals your children, encourages them to take hormones and pushes them into the bed of homosexuals survive? Not for long, for that is an abomination.

jaggard says:

>Just like with taxes, the question is not so much whether or not illegitimate, for the state decides its own legitimacy.

And you don’t see how contradictory your position is? If you grant that government is legitimate, and even worse it is legitimate because they say so, then they can do whatever they want. And guess what, they do.

>The question is, can a state that steals your children, encourages them to take hormones and pushes them into the bed of homosexuals survive?

It’s surviving pretty well at the moment. Who is trump’s “treasure secretary”? Oh yes a “married” faggot who “has children”.

Jim says:

> And you don’t see how contradictory your position is? If you grant that government is legitimate, and even worse it is legitimate because they say so, then they can do whatever they want.

And how do you propose to stop them?

Anything that can stop them, will necessarily look very like a government. And if you think one King three thousand miles away is bad, don’t trade him in for a thousand Kings three miles away. The colonists overthrew King George because he would not give assent to laws, and now we have enough laws to fill warehouses with paper and an anarcho tyranny of judges and regulators. Plus a whole lot of quasi state quasi socialist capitalists on the revolving door between regulators and regulated. Google and Microsoft are exercising power that King George would not have dreamt of.

Dividing power into a thousand bite sized pieces was intended to diminish power. Obviously it has not. The founders intent was to split power in ways that would diminish it, but of course, those whose power is diminished will not sit still for that.

Anarcho capitalism requires property rights. But property rights have to be secured against organised violence by organised violence. So, a government. And a government that taxes and conscripts is going to defeat a government that does not.

This is essentially the same argument as for property rights in women and children. The biological father might possibly abuse them, but a parade of thugs and drug dealers strolling through a single mother’s bedroom in between raiding her fridge and helping themselves to the child support money to buy drugs is certainly going to abuse them. And the teachers will trannify the kids, if child protective services does not sell them to a “married” gay couple first.

Jim says:

Obviously insecurity in property rights over people leads to stepfathers, stepbrothers, and random strange men strolling through the household. Observed behaviour is that single mums tend to fuck violent men who beat them up and take the money they receive to take care of kids — which men are of course, also dangerous to children. Often they are drug dealers and/or bisexual.

Thus while secure property rights in people might well enable the biological father to mistreat his wife and children, observed behaviour is that lack of property rights leads to step fathers and to random strange men in the bedroom or searching the house for their girlfriend’s drug stash, resulting in vastly more violence against children, and considerably greater violence against women.

The reason women find the dasmel-in-distress-trope so irritating is that they are not attracted to men who rescue them. Been there, done that, got the tee shirt. They are attracted to men who endanger them. I have also been there, done that, got the pussy, and it was a lot more fun.

If, once in a while, I have done better with women than one might expect, it is partly because of knowledge of women and experience with women, but partly because I have monsters inside that are barely under control and women can smell those monsters.

Women are attracted to dangerous men. Logically, one should suppose that, they should be attracted to men dangerous to those that would harm them, that the sheep should be attracted to the sheepdog rather than to the wolf. But observed behaviour in our society, perhaps because the state has cucked the sheepdog, they are attracted to the wolf.

In the ancestral environment of evolutionary adaptation, how would a female recognise the sheepdog? She would recognise him by the recognition of his property rights over her by other alpha males. She would expect the alpha male to tell her or take her. In our society, female instincts go horribly astray. Women are adapted to reproducing as property, and if unowned, weird, strange, and horrible stuff ensues.

If you check out the government approved female porn from major legacy publishing houses, it is dreary and disgusting. If you check out the uncensored female porn that women are writing for themselves, its weird, scary, disturbing and disgusting.

Popular male porn focuses on depicting physical interactions that in the ancestral environment would have resulted in reproduction. Female porn focuses on social interactions that are highly unlikely to lead to family formation, in the ancestral environment or any other, but in the magical pornotopian universe, do lead to family formation.

Female porn is twisted fragment of instincts that would have been functional in the ancestral environment, but, for lack of experience that environment and shaping by that environment, are reimagined into things weird, horrifying, and twisted. Women are going mad because individual men and society as a whole is failing their shit tests.

The Cominator says:

What bothers people about the “women and children” are property stance is the “what if severe abuse by sadistic paterfamilias, can anyone interfere” and I like what Jim said once about how women should be property the way pets are property. Which allows some leeway for outside interference in obviously observable severe abuse but otherwise there is no outside interference.

Jim says:

“what if severe abuse by sadistic paterfamilias”

What if severe abuse by Child Protective services and the family courts?

We don’t have angels to govern us.

Alf says:

Yes. Also, much like how pro-abortion arguments are about hypothetical rape scenarios that do not apply to 99% of all abortions, so does the abuse-by-father argument not apply to 99% of child abuse cases. The overwhelming majority of such abuse is perpetrated by stepfathers and/or adoptive gay parents. And so is an argument in favor of our proposal to restore marriage.

Alf says:

If you grant that government is legitimate, and even worse it is legitimate because they say so, then they can do whatever they want.

No connection whatsoever between the premise and conclusion of that sentence.

A state makes its law, hence its own legitimacy. That is where the term comes from. Does not mean a state can do whatever it wants, for if that were true, the very first king would have instituted that he was to be immortal and rule the world forever.

A state is not only confined by nature’s law, but also by its own cooperative limitations. Internal cooperation within globohomo is breaking down. The corruption, faggotry and evil you tell us has been and will be an everlasting constant has in fact been a festering wound that has grown and grown until it no longer has healthy flesh to feast on. Democracy died in 2020, when in an effort to stop Trump the counting of votes was stopped and trucks of fake votes were hauled in. And despite them stopping Trump in 2020, he was still elected president in 2024. That is not business as usual. That is a state spinning out of control.

Humungus says:

> “…Women and children have to be protected by someone. The question then, is, by whom?

> And whoever protects them, they cannot have protection from whoever it is that is protecting them. The buck has to stop somewhere. Best it stops with those closest, those most likely to love them.”

Exactly. Very nicely written!

Neurotoxin says:

From a rhetorical/propaganda perspective, “Women and children are their husbands’/fathers’ property” is horribly bad. Just say “Wives should be under their husbands’ authority.” That’s controversial enough in the current ideological environment; no need to make it worse by shooting yourself in the dick rhetorically.

By the way, C. S. Lewis had a great argument about this (in Mere Christianity). He pointed out that since marriages involve two people, someone is going to have to have the authority to break ties about family decisions. His argument directed at women was “Would you really want it to be the woman?” I love this, because it cuts through so much crap.

Jim says:

> From a rhetorical/propaganda perspective, “Women and children are their husbands’/fathers’ property” is horribly bad.

Seems to me that it works on women. Anything less is cucking out.

And the biblical position is

Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour’s house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbour’s wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that is thy neighbour’s.

Which lumps the wife with the house.

The word “husband” originally referred primarily to a man’s relationship to his land and his cattle, to what we would now call his capital.

So, it has been the view of our ancestors through ninety nine percent of history. Does not seem like a good idea to change it.

Alf says:

From a rhetorical/propaganda perspective, “Women and children are their husbands’/fathers’ property” is horribly bad.

Why? Haven’t noticed a problem myself. Perhaps a few shit-tests with the wifey a couple years back, but surprise surprise, nowadays she views this opinion of mine as just a quirky character trait.

As for the societal problems and public dissemination at large… Every year the complaints about collapsing tfr rates, divorce, incels, spinsters whatnot gets louder. Every year people will rack their backs trying crimethought-free solutions to see if that solves the problem. Every year that fails to even make a dent. What works works, what doesn’t work doesn’t work.

Looking at this from a propaganda perspective is downstream from looking at this from the truth perspective. At some point, society will have to face the ancient truth that women yearn to be owned by men and everything goes to shit when we pretend otherwise.

Neurotoxin says:

Jim: “Seems to me that it works on women. Anything less is cucking out.”

I’m talking about rhetoric, i.e. packaging, not substance.

Alf: Kudos, but your wife is not like US normies.

You two are forgetting what Jesus said in Leviticus 23:19: “Don’t shoot yourself in the dick.”

Jim says:

> Alf: Kudos, but your wife is not like US normies.

His wife is like US female normies. (In that their outrage is a mere shit test, that collapses when passed.)

Jim says:

> I’m talking about rhetoric, i.e. packaging, not substance.

And all rainbow flagged Churches with lesbian pastors are re-interpreting the biblical position on sex, marriage, and children, as “servant leadership” — which is to say not leadership at all but the subjection of the husband to the wife.

The reason that the rhetoric is less shocking is that you can weasel out of the implication — that the wife has a duty to obey, and the husband a duty to lead and command, that women should be silent in church, and, well, all the rest of the game position, the biblical position, and the evolutionary psychology position.

There is a gigantic shilling and entryism operation under way to revise the language in order to make forbidden thoughts unthinkable and unspeakable. If certain rhetoric is more acceptable than other rhetoric, it is always because the operation is under way to change the meaning of those words.

Neurotoxin says:

their outrage is a mere shit test, that collapses when passed.

Of course. But the people who matter in an actual fight are men. Veritably zero of them are ready for “women are/should be property,” or could be convinced of that in a reasonable time frame. (The clock is ticking on the reproductive slide.) More of them are ready for “A wife should be under her husband’s authority,” or could be convinced of that in a reasonable time frame.

Why make our task more difficult with offputting rhetoric? What percentage is in it for us?

Jim says:

> > their outrage is a mere shit test, that collapses when passed.

> Of course. But the people who matter in an actual fight are men. Veritably zero of them are ready for “women are/should be property,”

It is time.

The emancipation experiment is only a couple of centuries old, it was a failure from the beginning, has now been carried to its logical conclusion, and is a catastrophe. It simply has to be undone, and to pretend it can continue is to ignore the elephant in the living room.

Alf says:

Why make our task more difficult with offputting rhetoric?

Only offputting from a leftist perspective.

What percentage is in it for us?

If you can solve the problem Musk, Vance, Putin, Trump, Jinping, Macron, Orban etc are all concerned with… Sounds like eternal glory in my book.

Neurotoxin says:

“eternal glory”

The question is not the destination; it’s what’s most likely to actually get us there.

A2 says:

“I am a private-property-anarchist, or consistent classical liberal.”

I’m a bit late to the party but it should be noted that classical liberalism arose and flourished in Christian monarchies like Great Britain, Holland, etc.

jaggard says:

>”Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons”

That is certainly true, but in practice we are not able to choose either. Even if a government starts as pure robber barons, it will then make sense for them to associate with a bunch of do-gooders who will try to convince the subjects that they are being robbed and tyranized for their own good.

Jim says:

> Even if a government starts as pure robber barons, it will then make sense for them to associate with a bunch of do-gooders who will try to convince the subjects that they are being robbed and tyranized for their own good.

Obviously. We always have a state religion. But some state religions have been considerably more virtuous than others — The Christianity of Alfred the Great’s family was great, while the Old Gods of Mexico were outstandingly obnoxious.

Established Anglicanism was great, and led to greatness, from 1660, when it made its accommodation with the scientific method of the Skeptical Chymist, by returning to the Gospels identification of Christ with the Greek Logos, to 1820 when the Socinians infiltrated the Church, and it started going post Christian. The defeat of Empire beginning in Afghanistan in 1840, and the Indian Mutiny of 1853, were a direct result post Christian entryism, Jesus the Jewish community organiser, into the Church of England.

Science thrived under the established Anglicanism of 1840, died in 1945 with peer review replacing the scientific method. The Skeptical Chymist and the Established Anglican Church told us that we should listeen to what the experimenter says he saw. Harvard has a secret committee of “peers” decide behind closed doors what the experimenter saw.

So, the solution is a good King with a good state religion. Obviously, such have existed, and it is obviously possible to tell the difference — Covidianity and transexuality have brought back the child sacrifices of Moloch and Ishtar.

jaggard says:

>So, the solution is a good King with a good state religion.

Although the political situation wasn’t as bad in those times as it is today, it was far from ideal either. Science was more developed in England but it was hardly something limited to the place and time you mention. And although there was a separation between moral philosophy and natural philosophy, the naturalists are obviously the forerunners of the current technocrats.

So you present some historical facts illustrating a better state of government but I don’t think you are actually addressing the general problem.

S says:

No system or set of words on paper can create and uphold virtue; only men can. The only thing systems and agreements can do is provide as small an attack surface as possible for the alien, the mutant and the heretic to take advantage of.

Gundar says:

> the solution is a good King with a good state religion
> to group up in a big enough gang to

True, every gang needs a Leader and a Faith to get started.
Kings seem to come at random, whereas Faiths seem to exist already, at least for a while before a King comes from the midst to really carry it forward, and even refine its points as need be.

So what is the currently recognized, similar, or nearest known Name of, or not yet widely known Name of, or Author and Book of… the Good State Religion that one should adopt and promote in order to both fend off and win the coming War, and to continue the Civilization and its success thereafter?

For without being able to identify name and refer to such a followed oral/written Faith tradition, any King that tried to stand Faithless as such, to recruit and reign and so on, would be short lived, getting wrecked, without having any mass gang of the Faithful behind it needed to carry on and stand for generations.

Jim says:

Well that is the trouble. Every major religious denomination in the West as been coopted and converged to postChristianity, often referred to as Churchianity. There are plenty of influential Christians who are not coopted and converged, for example Tucker and Charlie Kirk, but no genuinely Christian denomination organised as a denomination.

Post Christianity cuts across religious denominations — thus there are for example plenty of Anglican Churches in Africa that are still Christian, though none in England, and rather few in Australia and America. I don’t know the situation in New Zealand and Canada.

However the Anglican Church seems to be in the process of splitting between its Christian and post Christian wings, so we are likely to get a Christian Anglican denomination that is organised as a denomination fairly soon.

Karl says:

Is your anti-imperialist stance limited to Empires ruling over people of different races? There were empires that ruled only over parts of Europe, e.g. the Holy Roman Empire or Austria-Hungary.

Sure, there were different religions in the Holy Roman Empire or Austria-Hungary and this was a source of problems, but do you want to argue that the situation would have been better if there had been no Emperor?

The Russian Empire of the Czars ruled over people of different races. Present day Russia rules over different races (look at pictures of Russians who have lived for generations at the border to China or Korea – do you want to argue these people are Europeans?). Do think the situation would be better if Russia were broken up?

Jim says:

India is itself a multi racial empire.

Every form of of government is a very bad form of government. A minimal government requires a high level of virtue, and a high level of virtue requires a virtuous state religion and a whole lot of people hanging from nooses.

dharmicreality says:

India is multi-racial not by choice and not an empire except in the narrower meaning of the definition. India doesn’t aspire to rule over alien people and modern India was carved out of a majority of brown Hindus (and desert cultists, though that remains our problem), along with other minor races who couldn’t exactly form a nation of their own, or even if they did, would be swallowed up by our desert cultist neighbours.

Modern India is a nation of people of mostly similar racial characteristics following mostly compatible forms of Dharmic traditions except the desert cultists and the other odd bits and pieces which cause problems for us. Race isn’t our problem. The issue is religion.

Jim says:

> India is multi-racial not by choice and not an empire except in the narrower meaning of the definition

If you are governing a substantial number of people of substantially different races, faiths, and cultures, empire.

Dharmicreality says:

Except that India is a nation of slightly different but mostly compatible tribes following dharmic or dharmic aligned traditions. Each tribe is incapable of forming a nation individually and thus a collection of these mostly Hindu tribes formed a natural nation for self defence against alien tribes.

India I repeat is not a wide empire of mostly incompatible races.

Anon says:

I am gonna side with Dharmicreality here, empire suck.
Jim beloved choice England 1600s to 1800s the birth place of industry and joint stock corporations and science was kingdom while every other European state was under the thumb either of temporal emperor or pope-emperor or some other ruler trying to build an empire ex Napoleon.
All empires seem to fall in the same globohomo way ruled by mandarin and bureaucrats, yes kingdom can become empire if too much successful. But still kingdom can avoid empire. While empires are always evil.

Pax Imperialis says:

>But still kingdom can avoid empire.

All political organizations eventually develop competing economic/social/political/religious factions. People create and join groups to gain a competitive advantage within the system, and eventually over other groups. You see this even within strict command hierarchies like the military where inter-service rivalries occur. Yet for there to be any semblance of cohesive decision making, only one group can effectively be the ruling demographic, and only one individual can being the ruler, otherwise you get political paralyzation, an inability to make decisions. To maintain power, the ruling group and individual must impose his will upon the others. At this point you effectively live in an empire. It’s inescapable. Note how we can observe DOW is colloquially understandable as the Red Empire and State Department as the Blue Empire… both existing nominally under the command of the president who has to wrangle their interests to align with his own. Not to mention all the individual states/interest groups as well.

Even within a mono-racial nation, even a mono-ethnic nation, you will find a dominate group having to impose their will upon dissenting groups competing for power. America could become 100% WASP today, completely lose all international influence, and become a North Korean style isolationist society, it would still operationally be an Empire. You cannot escape empire and thus anti-imperialism/empire arguments collapse. We must find solutions on creating an effective, virtuous empire. To that end, Throne and Alter Monarchy.

Handi says:

Your counterexample to empire is England 1600’s to 1800’s?

Anon says:

Yes, the official history is that the 1700 was the empire, bur reading historical account , empire started from 1840s , before that , was companies , privateers, pirates and assorted adventures.
London was not really concerned with the colonies because they were private. This started to change with the American war and the infamous impeachment of warren Hastings. Soon London started to become busy with the colonies and empire ensued.

Pax Imperialis says:

>empire started from 1840s

Much further back. The original Anglos were ruled by a foreign Saxon elite for a thousand years. England imposed its will upon the Welsh (1277), Northumbria (927), Ireland (1542), and Scotland (1707). We should remember not to confuse what a nation calls itself (in this case a Kingdom) when in reality it was an Empire.

Dharmicreality says:

@Pax

According to your loose definition all nations are empires. Which is an absurd conclusion.

I define nations as a collection of mostly similar tribes with mostly common racial and religious characteristics within a significant distinct geographical space. Each of those individual tribes cannot be a nation because of lack of sufficient population and distinct geographic space to defend against alien invaders. So several tribes come together under a banner.

Empires are completely different when a dominant nation expands outward beyond natural geographical boundaries and starts absorbing different and incompatible tribes under its banner.

The type of government is incidental whether monarchy, theocracy or as in modern globohomo empire, democracy.

Pax Imperialis says:

>According to your loose definition all nations are empires. Which is an absurd conclusion.

The line between empire and not empire is admittedly blurry. Enough so that it becomes arbitrary. The reality is that empire is more of a scale from very small to very big.

>I define nations as a collection of mostly similar tribes with mostly common racial and religious characteristics within a significant distinct geographical space.

This still makes most nations empires when observing purely the religious aspect. Even extremely genetically homogeneous countries like Korea (which btw declared itself an Empire in 1897). Today Korea has significant religious friction between the Buddhist, Christian, Shamanist, and secular groups. Germany declared itself an Empire in 1871, and indeed also has significant religious friction between Protestant and Catholic groups, later secular (also Islamist now too). India, for all its Hindu nationalism, is still divided between sects and castes. For all intents and purposes, you could split India up into a thousand ethnic/dialectic principalities and each would have inter caste friction embedded within and operationally have a ruling caste having to impose their will upon dissimilar, somewhat uncohesive socio-religious tribes.

How do you define a significant distinct geographical space? The Bavarian people and Marchian people both reside in the German part of the European plains, in fact much of Europe shares that same geographical space (European plains). Very few natural boarders, yet they are obviously distinct tribes that until very recently were separate and bitterly opposed cultures that fought. Today they still have major political differences.

>Each of those individual tribes cannot be a nation because of lack of sufficient population and distinct geographic space to defend against alien invaders. So several tribes come together under a banner.

By this France is an empire because Corsica has a distinct geographic space and sufficient pop to be its own nation yet is forced to be a part of France. Germany too as seen with history. America with the 50 states. India as seen with history. Russia. Canada (French Quebec and Anglo everywhere else). Japan (Ainu North). China (Manchu North, Cantonese South, Han core). The examples of empire are numerous. There are only a few nations today which are not empires. Andora. Hungry.

>Empires are completely different when a dominant nation expands outward beyond natural geographical boundaries and starts absorbing different and incompatible tribes under its banner.

This still describes most states today. It’s easier to find states that are not empires under this definition than list all those that are not. Don’t even get me started on Africa which is a miss mash of ethnic tribes and a series of civil wars far to long to list out.

dharmicreality says:

I don’t have a problem with mono-racial empires, and even empires with slightly different but compatible races. The problem is when an empire wants to rule over wholly incompatible races. Initially they apply different laws and allow the individual nations within the empire to govern themselves, but eventually Empire demands that all people are ruled by the same set of laws, and then apply centralized command which creates issues as can be seen by globohomo.

Sher Singh says:

India’s age of marriage is 21 and they pay several years salary for marrying Dalits.

Food adulteration is also a major issue with average heights declining over the last century.

I can’t honestly say that foreign rule isn’t better for Hindus.

Notwithstanding, that Brahmins retcon every foreign ruler into a pious Hindu. 👍

ਅਕਾਲ

Jim says:

> Brahmins retcon every foreign ruler into a pious Hindu.

The British dug up holy books that the Brahmins had not read in a very long time.

What happened was Muslims demanded their holy law, and the British said “OK, Sharia for Muslims, British law for Christians, and, uh, umm, what are we going to do about Hindus?”

Every Brahmin within five hundred British miles pricks up his ears and nominates himself for supreme legislator over all Hindus.

British say “OK, let us see your ancient holy books”

Brahmins say “ancient books?”

Sher Singh says:

It’s actually slightly worse than that, perhaps significantly so.

Even the claims above of disparate parts of India unable to form functioning nations.

Or this random tweet from the feed on the Marathas
https://x.com/macroschema/status/1996978265492271470?t=O-YxmEfOBpzK-Aaz99M5-Q&s=19

The fact of the matter is that thousands of years of Brahmin meditation came to the conclusion that eating cow poo mixed with pee, milk, butter and curd is the route to proving one holy.

Nota Trekker says:

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Tejano Bob says:

At the Tower of Babel, God divided the races.

ajuani says:

Dharmic… Most low-IQ Hindus have no idea how much Hindu symbolism has been desecrated over the last centuries as a tool for effectively neutering the community When the British arrived in India They were shocked by mandirs dedicated to fearsome popular forms of वाराह नरसिंह भैरव काली etc Deities once celebrated in रौद्र रूप are almost forgotten in India Even the imagery of उद्दण्ड गणेश was changed from his intimidating form to a cute elephant god The master strategist Krishna reduced to an inamorato

Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

Civilizational centers of gravity, wherever they may exist at the time, are simply irresistible to Things Hidden Since The Beginning Of The World, who have no interest in the provinces.

Occulted conspiracies for power naturally tend to become incestuous as they converge at the top, as they are all simultaneously trying to subvert each other, and and in manner of fashion, they all succeed; bureaucracies have a bad habit of sometimes outliving their hosts; there is, we allege, direct cladistic, spiritual, even organizational continuity between demon worshipers in Washington or Bruxelles today, and demon worshipers in Rome or Babylon yesterday – and further still.

India and China have their own homegrown undead zombie apparat – the maoist revolution was arguably the same mandarins simply changing the letterheads on their office stationary, scarcely changing until the Dengist reaction. (The nipponese were spared from cross-contamination by divine wind.)

c4ssidy says:

For this to be useful, each small part of that context needs to be represented by a hash, and larger parts by a hash of those hashes, so that if one has a lot of programs wrapped in their context on your machine, we do not get identical chunks of context duplicated over and over and over.

Let’s suppose code becomes a collection of hashes, calling other hashes, etc, and to run a universal program on the universal VM, the client grabs any chunks of referenced code (when it doesn’t already have them) from peers, archiving or caching the chunks as it goes.

If we give ourselves the goal of minimising variation of the chunks (chunks which solve simple problems, like ‘is a knight’s move on a chess board valid’), we probably would end up at Forth-style flat instructions.

Low level is a pain to write, but as it gets written, the content could be hashed on each keypress, and checked against the ledger, green ticks and such appearing on the side of the screen. It would be trivial to see whether you are currently doing something new, or another ID has already registered the hash of that exact set of instructions, or even if the current code is a subset of a registered set. I start typing, figuring out how to validate a move of the knight on a chessboard given a particular state, the first instruction (PUSH) might have 10 billion matches, but as I type, the matches quickly narrow, and it doesn’t take long until I see one at the top of the list which pretty much perfectly validates the knight’s move in a poetic sense (minimal instructions, maximum efficiency) that basically anyone making a chess app already chooses to use, so I click that, and skip the effort. In fact, I probably grab something which validates the move of any arbitrary piece given a particular state, which itself has a sub-call for each of the six piece types.

Low level may be a pain to write when it goes into an obscure project, but maybe less painful knowing that the effort being put into it gets shared and reused over centuries and generations, and that the pinging of the public ledger as you go along represents connections with innumerable ancestors searching for perfect algorithmic solutions to collective problems.

You can still have a high-level, relatively ultra-simple language as a layer on the top, that is usable by semi-technical people to produce trivial displays and applications (interactive memes, presentations, documentaries, ‘webpages’, simple games) which as mentioned could even nest high-level other scripts/VMs (works well for ‘entities’ with their own internal logic to be ran each frame, such as fish in a tank) but for immediately-crunched none-trivial logic, they would call the hash of a chunk of low level code, and use its output, without even having to know what is inside what they are calling, hash calls essentially being external functions, accessible from anywhere. For example, the collision of non-rectangular shapes, or a move validator. People making simple content would be able to call popular chunks of low-level which are known to give a particular input-output, gradually expanding in the complexity of their interactive memes without yet having to understand what they are calling. In the chess analogy, the amateur may just want to design his own pieces and board, and his own menu, while just referencing common low level function calls for the game logic. His ’tight’ program, which is a reference to his chosen art, his chosen compositional arrangement of the art, and references to hashes of the low level functions; would be a paragraph or so, and fit into a tight text, yet in a meaningful way he has also ‘built’ it, even if the ‘build’ is mostly a window into other things. It’s still a timeless window into content, and a significant upgrade from building something in Scratch, or sharing a link to login to Scratch (which really translates into sharing the whim of a temporal corporate service).

The low-level would range from tens to hundreds of flat instructions, and for more complex tasks, usually call other things, so day-to-day a great deal of classic logic would already have been written. For a standard R-type style shooter, programming would basically be replaced with pure game design, the effort only being in deciding what and when and where to have things be and not to be, and what art assets you want them to use. The end-goal utopia is a decentralised Roblox, where even complex 3d world-building would be described by simple placement of entities, entities and their interactions with each other managed just as calls of perfectly-tuned low level functions, separating out the world-building from knowledge of what goes on underneath, yet without relying on any particular corporation or platform controlling and curating that which is underneath

Edit_XYZ says:

The US didn’t attack Veneziela until now; it won’t attack, except perhaps with a pinprick strike to save face.
Much of the fleet the US had in the Caribbean is already returning to ports, with no gains. Despite the huge expenses for mobilizing it.

In general, the US lost in Afghanistan, Ukraine, Iran, Yemen and now, it shows it can’t take Venezuela.
Economically, the US is more bankrupt than any other polity was in history.
Demographically, the quality of its human capital has been in free fall.

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Jim says:

Hail fellow straight white male racist🙃

Tell us why the quality of the West’s human capital is in free fall. And why the US can no longer build warships, nor weapons that match Russian weapons. One of my regulars remarked on the deteriorating quality of drywall, McMansions, water filtration plants, and so on and so forth. What was his explanation and do you agree with it?

And what role do women play in our inability to army Ukraine, or to defeat Venezuela when it has Russian backing?

The smiley 🙃 is because I suspect you are pulling a payload that is radically inconsistent with your purported political position.

Edit_XYZ says:

I got relegated to ‘hai fellow’, I see. And you deleted part of my post.
Don’t think I didn’t remark how my post about crypto disappeared without a trace.

You can dish it out, but you can’t take it, Jim.

As for what one of your one of your regulars said, I don’t know; I don’t follow this blog so closely.
That the quality of US (not western) human capital fell off a cliff is obvious.
Causes? Brownification of USA, sub-standard education system, tens of millions of americans on drugs. In the end, it is of little consequence; it can’t be fixed easily or fast.

What is of consequence is that no polity in history ever managed to restore its former empire once the rot got so deep.

Jim says:

Allowing this through in full so that regulars can know why every future post from you gets silently deleted or unkindly edited.

“Brownification” sounds like a thought crime, but, in context, skips near to a thought crime then slithers away from the unthinkable.

If you want a pass, then address my arguments, in a way that reveals what I am arguing.

Drugs etc is a symptom not a cause — you are blaming us goyim cattle rather than the knife you are sticking in our back. Drugs etc is because highly intelligent young white males cannot get jobs or wives, and if they could get a job and a wife could not get a home, which limits the value provided by a wife and a job, and if they could get a job but not a wife, no point in getting a job.

Collapse of the education system is irrelevant. It has always been completely useless in training people to perform high value tasks, other than the job of professor itself. It used to be useful as a filter to sort out and select for the intelligent and industrious. It now selects for stupidity and political activism, making it counterproductive to hire university graduates. But the intelligent are still there, and would be industrious if they could get jobs, wives, and homes.

“Brownification” is almost a pass — but in context evades noticing difference in intelligence and cooperation between races, evades noticing the curious presence of browns and women in jobs that only white males and east asians can do, and evades noticing that the “engineers” responsible for various notable disasters have been outstandingly female, rather than outstandingly brown. Racial differences in IQ are certainly a big part of it, but women, and especially single women, are a considerably bigger part of it, whenever a bridge falls down or a plane does not fly.

Mass importation of voters to live on crime, welfare, and government jobs explains the deficit. It does not explain our inability to make stuff. What explains our inability to make stuff is profound reluctance to give jobs that require straight white males to get done to right straight white males. It is like no dasmel in the movies can ever be rescued by a male, no white male can every be hired for a job that needs a white male. You can get a job as a nurse, you can get a job of the email classes, you can get any job a woman can do, or a brown can do, but you cannot get a job that needs a white male to do it, because, like the hero rescuing the dasmel in the movies, that would play to stereotype.

Rhodesia and White South Africa had no difficulty doing high tech stuff with a ninety percent black population. “Brownification” did not render them incapable. Hiring white men for white man jobs made them capable. Brownification is not causing the decline. Refusal to hire straight white males for jobs that need straight white males (because stereotyping) is causing the problem.

You use the word “brownification” (hail fellow white male racist) but then blame the fact that browns are being hired for jobs beyond their capability on white males (drugs, education, etc) You blame us goyim for the knife in our backs.

Edit_XYZ says:

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Jim says:

You said I was engaging in motivated reasoning by proposing an easily fixable problem is the cause of American decline– without mentioning what that easily fixable problem was. (because it was a thought crime.)

You accuse me of motivated reasoning without pointing at any section of my reasoning.

Unless you point at the other guys reasoning and say “this step in the argument is stretch” you are not allowed to say “he is stretching because he wants a certain result”.

The accusation of motivated reasoning without explanation of the other guy’s reasoning is just an ad hominem — and you are doing the ad hominem, because you are unable to mention the thought crime.

Repeating the thought crime once more, the thought crime that you could not mention, nor even imply:

Whenever there is a spectacular incident of American failed engineering, the bridge falls down, the plain does not fly, or it flies and parts keep falling off, the engineering team is not “representative” of the somewhat brownified American population. Rather straight white males are completely absent.

White South Africa had no problem doing stuff while ninety percent black, because it could hire straight white males for jobs that need straight white males. Brownification is not the problem. The lack of sexism and racism is the problem.

Edit_XYZ says:

[*still strangely unable to mention the claim that you are arguing against*]

[*or even make arguments that would hint at what it is that they might be intended to disprove*]

Jim says:

Not only can you not mention the claim you are arguing against, that the men who could accomplish these things are not being hired because “male, pale, and stale”, but you will not even make counter arguments relevant to it, because relevance would imply that someone might be thinking it.

Jim says:

I am just not going to let your stuff through because you are not willing to engage the argument that western decline is the result of banning sexism and racism — that sexism and racism are objectively correct, wise, virtuous, and avoiding sexism and racism is wicked, evil, malicious, and destructive.

You are not required to agree with the argument, but you are required to notice that it has been made, and that most young men denied jobs that need to be done and which they could easily do, do think that sexism and racism are obviously objectively correct.

Edit_XYZ says:

Sexism/racism/DEI were not an issue when trying to obtain brains, for research. Or workers to man your shipyards. Were not an issue under Trump, this year.
USA doesn’t have the human capital in anywhere near the required amounts for even a regional power.

That is to say, good luck with your belief that USA’s human capital woes can be fixed so easily.

Jim says:

> Sexism/racism/DEI were not an issue when trying to obtain brains for research.

Obviously they were an issue. And they continue to be an issue. Everyone that could do the job is “male, pale, and stale”, so it is deemed unholy to hire them for a job that is stereo typically straight, white, and male.

It still permitted to hire white males for stuff that is not stereotypically white and male, but not for jobs that are stereotypically straight, white, and male.

> USA doesn’t have the human capital

Obviously the USA does have the human capital: Observe Musk’s rockets. And observe Musk’s engineers, all of whom are “male, pale, and stale.

Obviously the USA can still do great things when someone is free to hire from outside the elite universities and free to hire white males for stereotypically white male tasks. Because it is doing great things.

The Cominator says:

The only people who claim the US has no human capital are shills and Indians.

Jim says:

You can tell the shills because they have internally inconsistent beliefs. Edit_XYZ is obviously Indian or Jewish, while giving us the hail-fellow-straight-white-male-racist-time-to-fight-race-war-right-now song and dance.

The Cominator says:

Shill or Indian but not necessarily jewish, and jews other than that immigration lawyer woman on twitter (I don’t actually know if shes a jew but I think she is) are ussually too clever to argue even if they are for open borders that America lacks any human capital (they know that all that is is a ragebait argument).

Jim says:

You are allowed to argue that the problem cannot be fixed by racism and sexism.

You are not allowed to be strangely unable to notice that your interlocutor is arguing that the problem can easily be fixed by racism and sexism, and is caused by efforts to suppress racism, sexism, masculinity, and all that, that the problem is caused by the lack of racism, sexism and all that. Strange inability to notice your interlocutor’s arguments lead to confusing and mystifying threads that go on forever and shed darkness, rather than light.

The lord commanded racism and sexism, and failure to be racist and sexist is sinful.

Edit_XYZ says:

Feel free to reread my pervious post, addressing sexism/racism.

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Jim says:

You did not address sexism/racism. You merely confidently asserted without explanation or evidence that the reason white males were not being hired because we are just no good.

But at least you did mention what you were denying.

Which denial I therefore allowed through in full and rebutted by pointing at Musk’s rocket team.

Just look at the racial and sexual composition of the one team that is still accomplishing great things, and the racial and sexual composition of every other team.

South Africa could do great things back when it was racist and sexist, and the American teams that are still accomplishing great things look remarkably white and male.

Nasa’s objective is not to put a moonbase on the moon. Its objective is to put a moonbase on the moon that proves that rockets, science, and technology was stolen from brave and stunning subsaharan African warrior women by white male rapists.

Sher Singh says:

Edit_xyz the reason for loss of human capital is loss of patriarchy.
That’s what Jim wants you to see.

Start here
https://blog.reaction.la/culture/how-to-restore-a-reproductively-successful-society/

Jim says:

It is multifactorial. Hard to become a patriarch, and Human Resources does not want men who might potentially become patriarchs to get jobs.

Edit_XYZ says:

Jim, feel free to NOT modify your post after I replied to it.

Jim says:

I was not aware that you had replied to it. You must have been working on your reply as I was editing my post.

FrankNorman says:

@Edit_XYZ

If you were to type out the words “Jim believes that certain types of work can be done properly only by people who are straight, white, and male, and that giving any other kind of people those tasks will result in the work not being done right”… would something bad happen to you?

Bartho says:

[*link spam deleted because you failed to take the shill test described in the moderation policy*]

Randall says:

Here we have the latest Female Socialist Muslima explaining on tape exactly how she’s going to wreck and run your business for you…
https://x.com/ZarahSultana/status/1997726873057714664
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zarah_Sultana
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Your_Party_(UK)
Even Alex Soros’ Leftypedia entries on her are ridiculous.

Time to abolish Womens Suffrage… the World is of Men, and Women are much happier and fulfilled when in their Natural role which is the Home. Women’s Hormonal Menstrual Moon Cycle chaos is incompatible and destructive to World Stability and Reality.

“Sultana is married to Craig Lloyd, a policy officer for the Fire Brigades Union, who has acted as her agent and strategist.”

How is it that these White Western Men ‘strategists’ are all cucking themselves to Muslima like Zarah and Ilhan, what the fuck are they marrying them for? The pussy certainly isn’t anything special, in fact it’s abusive. Must be all that Muslim Political money used to takeover the West.
In tweets, Sultana used phrases such as “YT” (“whitey”, used to avoid social media censorship) and “the white woman”

Jim says:

Allowing this through, because you said “abolish Womens Suffrage”, which sounds like a thought crime.

But it seems an off topic shill script, because Sultana is merely one absurd fragment of a pile of absurd left on left splittism,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iiMbzVtxvRM

Randall says:

Women also shouldn’t be out in the world because we don’t need to introduce a 51% numerical chaos attack upon the world, we’ve got enough problems with Men competing, the world doesn’t need to introduce Female competition upon it… just look at catfights on youtube and bitchfights in US Congress.

Willing to wrap GloboGhey Kings up in the assessment too:
https://sheikyermami.com/2025/03/traitor-king-of-england-defiles-windsor-castle-with-ramadan-crapola/

> Left Splittism [yt link]

youtube is broke for me right now.

On the Red-Green Alliance, it is surely the Greens who are netting out more perma-gains and knowingly using the Reds, whereas the Reds just see the Greens as another Empathy Colour to put on their Gay Colour Revolution Flags plus a few votes and a little extra money in their “protest” pot.

Just like there are trackers of this
https://thereligionofpeace.com/

There should be trackers of all the Corrupt Politicians trying to converge the world to Globo Gay Brown Faithless and CBDC-ID.
Would require a beefy server to aggregate data on 65+++% of worlds Political class.

https://jihadwatch.org/2025/03/roman-catholic-bishop-on-europe-we-are-currently-witnessing-an-invasion-of-the-mass-islamization-of-europe

When the Bishops start calling out the Politicians and Popes, and the plebs rise to throw out those evils, that will be the day.

Tis all, Cheers.

Randall says:

“Sultana is married to Craig Lloyd, a policy officer for the Fire Brigades Union, who has acted as her agent and strategist.”

“Public Unions”… where Leftism steals more money from both the public and already unfireable Govt paid employees (HR Ma’am), and shovels it through “policy” channels into “protests” and Leftist coffers.
A real “Fire Brigade” would be an efficient subscription-based free-market company and would reject a costly “Public Union” staffed by useless pansy “officers” like Lloyd.
Real Brigades require Real Men physically capable of running stairs, pulling firehose, and fixing truck.
Not Leftist cuckboys like Lloyd.
The Brigade should fire Lloyd for being useless and costly.
Brigade Men should disband the Union and put the money saved from canceling that into real investments for their own futures.

Same goes for all “Public Teachers Unions” and “Public Schools” and “National Education Offices”.
Completely Corrupt Wastes that exist for nothing but stealing money to enrich themselves while Colourizing generations of kids.
Shut them all down and make patronage, apprenticeship, private, and home schools great again.

Ok bye.

Randall says:

> youtube is broke for me right now.

Youtube has gone full asshole to anons, can’t even pull the title without giving up firstborn, so have no idea what this is, other than the Megabyte+ of Javascript shit they spewed into my browser trying tell me I was a bot.

Free Enoch Burke
https://x.com/TRobinsonNewEra/status/1997457426430537894
Enoch Burke lodges an appeal from his prison cell.
He’s spent over 500 days in jail.
His crime?
The young schoolteacher refuses to call a pupil “they/them”.
All he wants to do is educate.
Yet he’s in chains for refusing to indoctrinate.
They have also fined him 225kEUR.
For standing by his beliefs.

GloboGay Colour Leftism is insane, dangerous, and must be shut down.

Protect Elon Musk at all costs, he’s doing good work, and thus has a target on his back.
@ElonMusk
I mean it. Not kidding.
@iam_smx
FAFO: Elon Musk is now calling for the abolition of the EU “The EU should be abolished and sovereignty returned to individual countries, so that governments can better represent their people”

Geert Wilders to Speak in USA
https://x.com/AFAlliance/status/1997412458110017798
https://x.com/HeartsofOakUK

There is growing trend of EU Conservative/Right/NatCivs/Christians coming to USA for speech/asylum.

The non-Pol Class must now wake and throw the Politicians out
https://x.com/AmyMek/status/1997225605381935336
No it’s not matter of Pols waking up, they all were the very ones who did it, because they are Corrupt, trading their Heritage for Money Votes and Power. Corrupt Souls gain nothing.

Nonie compares Covenants of Peace and War
https://x.com/AFAlliance/status/1988717954981077381

Parresia and McIlvenna cover destruction by the Pols Red-Green Alliance
https://x.com/AFAlliance/status/1991947529936687615

Bradley Thayer explores America’s enduring conflict with communism, spanning from the 1917 Bolshevik Revolution to the current rivalry with China.
https://x.com/AFAlliance/status/1994473034338431328

Victor David Hanson with a basic history series
https://x.com/AFAlliance/status/1995186466666983916

Unite the Schisms, remove the Politicians and Leftists, restore Women to the Home, and throw all the Imports and the rest back out.

Neurotoxin says:

Link spam, annoying, cut it the fuck out.

Mayflower Sperg says:

https://gameruprising.to/thread-65086-post-1085069.html

Andrew Anglin’s followers have all converted to Jimianity, while Putin remains a boomer tradcon. The latter’s solution is to encourage men to do more housework, and if that doesn’t increase the birthrate, import millions of “qualified specialists” from India’s finest diploma mills.

Beow says:

If we win, Anglin should be made editor in chief of the Paper of Record, or something like that. He has done a lot and I’m glad to hear that he’s becoming more Jimian. It would be nice if he held the position and popularity that Fuentes does.

randall says:

Comrade Starmer! As desperate @UKLabour rakes over @Nigel_Farage’s schooldays, the KGB’s toxic propaganda machine and the hard-Left past @Keir_Starmer would rather we all forgot has been revealed 😂
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15359779/Comrade-Starmer-Labour-Nigel-Farages-KGBs-toxic-propaganda-machine.html

dharmicreality says:

@Neurotoxin,

RE: THE OPTICS DEBATE OF THE WQ

Having thought long and hard about it, it is obvious that any watering down or diluting our thoughts into more acceptable words is actually conceding frame to the enemy, meaning we ourselves accept that our thoughts are “horrific” and require to be put into a more acceptable language to convince otherwise “normal” people or “normies”.

The problem with that is that, no matter how toned down your rhetoric, only you end up losing frame significantly while the enemy concedes absolutely nothing and normies will not matter at all in this debate.

Saying “women should be reasonably under the leadership of men” is a watered down version of “women should be under the authority of men always” which is a watered down version of “women are property of their fathers when unmarried and later husbands after marriage”.

However do you think you gain anything by saying the first phrase? You will still be regarded as a sexist mysoginistic monster and horribly evil person by Leftists even the less insane Leftists, while you lose nothing by saying the actual thought crime and in fact increase the shock value which makes people listen (even if in horror). However, you have lost the actual debate even before it starts if you tone down your language to make it more “acceptable” to the normies or even the less insane Left.

Jim says:

> diluting our thoughts into more acceptable words is actually conceding frame to the enemy, meaning we ourselves accept that our thoughts are “horrific”

Exactly so.

My experience of normies, and this in part experience of normy men with a fair bit the world’s favourite truth serum in them, is if you have a clear frame, everyone just goes along with your frame.

Joe Six pack vaguely knows there is fair bit of unthinkably reactionary stuff in the bible, so when he hears unthinkably reactionary views from a suspected bible basher, is unphased, unshocked, and unsurprised. Maybe he quietly disagrees, but suspects that if he loudly disagreed, he would be hit by a biblical verse, and would rather not.

Randall says:

> women are property of their fathers when unmarried and later husbands after marriage

Which implies that Women should generally be kept at home, or within custodial range/escort of an honourable Male (from among the family, employees, known clan). Over all recorded history coverture-like systems kept ferality from becoming a civilizational problem… such as by providing just enough spending money for one carriage ride and groceries at a time (which she freely paid to a carriage driver selected by her owner for her)… thus women were free to travel, but their ferality wasn’t. Even if the driver was unable to prevent the ferality (by in some societies not being given proxy for her owner’s right of physical control), any failure of the driver to report the ferality would find the driver permanently unable to find a job thereafter.

Karl says:

The watering down of the message also prevents the message from being heard. If I say something like “wives should be under authority of their husbands”, normies hear a message like “wives should give husband’s suggestions a favorable hearing”. Normies don’t wan’t to think forbidden thoughts, can’t think forbidden thoughts on their own.

Only way to make the message heard is to state it bluntely. Women should be property of husbands or fathers. That forcibly confronts normie with the thought crime.

Neurotoxin says:

I see what’s going on here. You’re all so afraid of pussying out in the face of the left that you’ve swung too far in the other direction and have convinced yourselves that the right move is always the hardest move.

No!!!

Sometimes the right move is the move that’s hardest in the short run, and sometimes the right move is the move that’s easier in the short run. We have to be pragmatic or we’ll lose.

Dharmicreality says:

It’s not that. It’s just that dilution of the word doesn’t help one bit and on the other hand you concede frame to the enemy.

You’re going to be a racist misogynistic sexist pig regardless of what word you use and in any event by diluting the words you admit the leftist frame that these ideas are so horrific they need to be watered down and even the watered down version doesn’t help.

Those who can be won over by argument are already on our side, since the Left has gone increasingly insane. The ones who haven’t on our side aren’t going to do so by diluted and watered down arguments on the WQ.

Neurotoxin says:

“You’re going to be a racist misogynistic sexist pig regardless of what word you use…”

Dharmic,

Of course we cannot talk to the left any more. The time when it was possible to talk to leftists is long past. The assassination of Charlie Kirk should conclusively prove this to anyone who doubts it.

The idea is to appeal to a reasonably broad group of people. (Not leftists.) You go to war with the army you have, and you start a task of persuasion from where the audience currently is.

“The ones who haven’t on our side aren’t going to do so by diluted and watered down arguments on the WQ.”

I’m not conceding that my wording is watered down, but anyway…

Wanna bet? We should take notes from the people most obsessed with acquiring power: the left. They didn’t start in 1900 (or whenever) by saying “We want homosexual marriage and to cut your sons’ dicks off.” They were gradualist, and look how far they got!

Dharmicreality says:

Firstly from 1800s leftism to 1900s to current leftism is not tactic but holiness spiraling on universalist ideology which cannot be adopted by the right since the very concept of “left and right are two sides of the same coin” is fundamentally flawed.

Secondly even adopting legitimate leftist tactics or trying to make “right wing ideas more acceptable to present day sensibilities” has never historically worked for the right. The so-called Conservatives are eternal losers because of this.

Neurotoxin says:

Firstly from 1800s leftism to 1900s to current leftism is not tactic but holiness spiraling on universalist ideology which cannot be adopted by the right…

False. The left consciously, deliberately uses gradualism as a premeditated strategy. I’m quite surprised to hear you assert otherwise.

I’m not denying the holiness spiral; I’m saying that’s not all that was happening.

Secondly, even if it were true that all that’s going on is a holiness spiral, that’s irrelevant. It’s irrelevant why the left went leftward gradually. The fact is that they did go left gradually, and this allowed them to boil the Normie frog. Normie doesn’t analyze it and say “I’ll accept your gradualism if it’s driven by a holiness spiral, but not if it’s driven by a conscious strategy.” Normie just gets dragged along by the gradualism.

Jim says:

> False. The left consciously, deliberately uses gradualism as a premeditated strategy. I’m quite surprised to hear you assert otherwise.

Movement ever leftwards is not one guy with a consistent plan. It is the net effect of a huge number of people building their entire career plans around the latest applecart to be knocked over. Just as dot commers were forever glomming onto the latest hot thing, leftists are forever glomming on to the latest hot thing in the same way for the same reasons. Every graduation ceremony begets a new movement leftwards, because last year’s graduates have already infested the rotting apples of the previous applecart.

The reason that Hillary Clinton’s defeat was perceived as an unthinkably huge catastrophe is that an enormous army of leftists had their entire careers planned around getting considerably higher paid and more powerful jobs in 2016, and this knocked their career plans over. Read Mike Benz on the careers of the Hillaryites.

Any one goal is pursued using gradualism as a premeditated strategy, and any one faction has some limited goal, but the goals of leftism are endlessly changing, and the leading faction is endlessly replaced by a more radical faction.

If the left had a premeditated strategy, then it would accomplish its goals and then stop. An individual leftist has a premeditated strategy, a small group of leftists conspiring have a premeditated strategy, but the left does not have a premeditated strategy. It is like the dot com bubble. Any one dot com had a business plan, but the bubble was not a business plan, and there were always plenty more business plans coming right up.

Any one year’s crop of graduates may well follow a consistent strategy over their entire careers, but they will be trying to overthrow last year’s graduates, and resist being overthrown by next year’s graduates.

Rapid movement leftwards is one group of leftists disempowering, and eventually executing, the previous group of leftists.

Movement left is the career plans of leftists unfolding, and each new group of leftists coming out of each years graduation ceremony is looking for the next applecart to build their careers around.

Consider Starmer. His regulatory state is Fabian socialism. But his fabian faction has overthrown, dismayed, and purged the old fabian faction. It has been Fabian socialism all along, but the original Fabians genuinely were unimaginably right wing compared to today’s Fabians. Every time British labor reinvents itself, the previous laborites get purged. In America, the Obama democrats were the new guard, and the Hillary Clinton Democrats the newer guard, and now Muslim immigrant who married her brother for the green card is the new new new guard. The British conservative party is currently led by a black female immigrant — movement left involves actual sidelining and replacement.

Blair created the Quangos and the British supreme court, and whole new bureaucracy and legal system rendering the existing bureaucracy and legal system irrelevant and impotent. Power, having long unofficially slipped to the permanent government as depicted in “Yes Minister” passed officially from parliament to quangoes, a whole new permanent government. At the moment it is thinkable that parliament could take it back, but by and by this will become as unthinkable as the King taking it back.

The reason Starmer does not care about the popularity of British labor is that British labor does not govern. New labor replaced old labor, and the new permanent government that Tony Blair created has rendered New labor irrelevant.

Whenever leftism fails to go lefter, as when Hillary was not elected, it is like a major dot com failing — suddenly there are a huge number of resumes circulating, and European governments being overthrown.

Dharmicreality says:

@neurotoxin,

I was preparing a long reply to your comment but Jim has put this as well as I could have thought of.

I will just add that your view of leftism (as a whole and in the long term) as a rational strategic movement is extremely conventional thinking and badly modeled and is the assumption on which most right wingers trip up.

Nothing more to add.

Neurotoxin says:

“I will just add that your view of leftism (as a whole and in the long term) as a rational strategic movement is extremely conventional thinking and badly modeled”

It is both a rational strategic movement and a holiness spiral and other things too – shit tests by women, various kinds of grift, etc.

Dolfin says:

I agree with Neuro. There is a difference between diluting an ideology, and slowly unveiling it piece by piece like the left does.
The left has slowly marched through the institutions, not through coordination, but by having a shared faith. Those leftists with stronger faith, our counterparts, would have failed had they pushed white genocide, trannies, etc. fifty years ago, because the human mind accommodates gradual paradigm shifts much easier than sudden ones. The frog was slowly boiled and thus needs to be slowly de-boiled, otherwise the water will feel awfully cold, even if it really isn’t.

Secondly even adopting legitimate leftist tactics or trying to make “right wing ideas more acceptable to present day sensibilities” has never historically worked for the right. The so-called Conservatives are eternal losers because of this.

That’s because conservatives don’t have a real ideology, they are merely mildly discontented with the left’s repeated victories. Nothing a conservative says is going to genuinely shock anybody, so they have no need for gradualism.
(Of course, the left will pretend to be shocked by conservatism, in order to shame the conservative and to falsely imply that the conservative is legitimate opposition).

The Cominator says:

I think perhaps there is a middle ground, the left will accuse you of trying to give men a life or death authority over women and children (which indeed is what Jim proposes, I favor stopping just short of this) whether you intend it or not. To deny this weakens your frame but done deftly it will not activate the normies defenses in going too far, but weakening your frame risk losing it altogether.

There is a bit of a trade off…

Neurotoxin says:

What I predict and hope would happen would be that the law could say what Jim says…

But if someone is seriously abusing his children or wife – they show up with broken arms, e.g. – he would soon be found stone cold dead in a ditch somewhere, and the cops, as Jim puts it, “Would show a strange lack of energy in tracking down the killers.”

(There are some things that we need to have done but that it might be a bad idea to explicitly codify into law. “Crickets chirping.”)

The Cominator says:

Yes that would be sort of an ideal society, I understand why people abuse women because female sexuality craves abuse and women often deliberately provoke it…

But people who abuse children and pets otoh (im not talking rough discipline in cases where softer forms have failed)… in a good society they would be lynched and you wouldn’t need a law.

Beow says:

I don’t know that there is one right answer. Jim and Moldbug basically represent these two different approaches. Each have obviously been successful in their own ways.

Jim says:

> You’re all so afraid of pussying out in the face of the left that you’ve swung too far in the other direction

My personal experience with normies indicates that this is not too far. Your policeman inside is kicking in. And obviously any rhetoric that does not disturb the policeman inside is just not going to work, and any rhetoric that does work is going to activate the policement inside.

> We have to be pragmatic or we’ll lose.

I am a pragmatist. I don’t think you are.

The reason “leadership” or “head” does not work any more is because the left has been changing those words underneath us.

Neurotoxin says:

In the 1700s, was “property” a standard word used in talking about wives? (Let’s confine it to the US and England.) Standard, not just some 18th-century Jim up on his soapbox. I’m pretty sure it wasn’t. Obviously this is a big ask, and I’m not seriously suggesting that people sift through every document on marriage from the entire 18th century to satisfy my request. But if you happen to know of a source, by all means, let me know.

Absent that, you’re not advocating returning to the historical norm; you’re advocating going out of our way to make our task more difficult.

Neurotoxin says:

As if our current situation isn’t difficult enough!

Neurotoxin says:

By the way, I am not actually suggesting that Jim change his rhetoric on this topic. He has left such a paper trail on it that he couldn’t change his tune now even if he wanted to.

But I do want it on the record that not everyone thinks that this is ideal rhetoric.

Jim says:

Reading old books to trace the origins of the rot, I found a case, which may well be the ancient beginnings.

A man apprenticed his daughter to become an entertainer, to sing and dance. Which had a suspicious resemblance to selling her to a brothel. The entertainment company, or perhaps the traveling brothel, sold her to a duke, which made entertainment company look more like a brothel than an entertainment company.

The court, rightly shocked by all this, emancipated her, whereupon she climbed into the Duke’s stagecoach and went home with the duke.

The problem was that the court had not upgraded her status to a free, equal, and independent citizen, that not being in the potential of women, but downgraded her from concubine to whore.

Obviously what they should have done was, if the Duke was single, shotgun married them, and if the Duke was already married, punished him for bigamy and still shotgun married them. Or punished the duke, shotgun married her to anyone handy and penalised the father and the travelling company.

If a domestic animal is abused, family, society, Church, and state are apt to rightly intervene. But they will not intervene in ways that make it less of a domestic animal, less property. They will intervene in ways that make it more of a domestic animal, more property. And they will not pay attention to the animal’s opinion on the matter.

Women just do not like not being property, just as a dog does not like it. If she has sovereign control of her sexual, domestic, and reproductive services, then she can defect at any time, in which case the rational strategy of the male is to defect first. The ancestral environment of successful reproduction was as property, of not being able to dispose of her sexual, domestic, and reproductive services as she feels inclined, moment to moment.

The feminist argument that all sex is rape has grain of truth, in that the sexual act is just inherently unequal, and any effort to make it equal makes it weird and not fun.

The Cominator says:

What party sued in this case and can you name the specific case. Also why would a woman becoming a whore be shocking prior to the progressive era poz. Pre progressive era I thought that men widely thought as Martin Luther did that God ordained that women be either wives or prostitutes…

Jim says:

The court’s objection was that evil father and evil entertainment company was forcing her to become a prostitute. Sound familiar? But actually, “forcing” does not fit female sexual behaviour at all. Women react to stimuli. They don’t choose rationally. And the court changed the stimuli in ways that would result in her becoming a prostitute, that did result her becoming a prostitute.

The Cominator says:

Can you give me some specifics of the case so I can look it up?

Jim says:

Not really, it was a long time ago — I don’t recollect the details.

yewotm8 says:

I was curious and did some searching. The woman was named Ann Catley, and the trial took place in 1763. It seems that her father was mostly to blame, as he was the one who complained to the court that her apprenticeship was sold to Sir Francis Delaval. She was whoring from the age of at most 14, and at one point before her apprenticeship she shacked up with a local craftsman but her father demanded she leave him and come back to his home. If anything the court was merely respecting her father’s right to decide that his daughter should be free to continue whoring, that she was too special to remain a kept woman, which seems like the sort of manner by which the rot might set in.

Randall says:

“Internet-ID” is completely wrong approach, and is one of Globalism’s key Holy-Grail’s of Total Control.

Women are going to be salty when Men wake up and realise they have to return their OnlyFans Sloots back into the Home, unto proper Ownership Marriage and Discipline.

And Politicians and Popes are going to be salty when Men wake up and realise they have to prosecute them for fomenting Womens Natural Ferality against the Civilization.

jaggard says:

>If a domestic animal is abused, family, society, Church, and state are apt to rightly intervene.

But they have no right to. If I own something I can do whatever I want with it. Otherwise I don’t really own it. So yesterday you said children are property and if they are not property we’ll get “family courts”, including “anarcho capitalist” “family courts”. But now you say everybody can intervene in alegedly private affairs…

>But they will not intervene in ways that make it less of a domestic animal, less property. They will intervene in ways that make it more of a domestic animal, more property.

That is of course complete nonsense. If you own X you use X however you wish. If other people can interfere with your property rights, then they are not actually property rights.

Jim says:

Not only does a wife not fit your extreme definition of property, a dog does not, a pig does not, chicken does not, and even a chair does not.

To argue that women should not be property, you have taken a definition of property so extreme that absolutely nothing is property, nor should it be.

Jim says:

Property is a bundle of rights, and every right is surrounded by grey areas that are not easily pinned down.

Someone owns land, then he subdivides it and sells off the plots. But he put the sewers from one plot under another plot, and the power to one plot over another plot, and the owner of one plot therefore owns access to things on another plot.

Neurotoxin says:

Reading comments with interest, nothing to add at this time.

Jim says:

> was “property” a standard word used in talking about wives?

“Husband” was a standard word used in talking about the owner of property. With, however, an emphasis on the duty of care and management — someone who took care of property, made it productive.

Let us suppose “property” had been a standard word. What would have happened? The enemies of God and man would have changed the word underneath us, the way they did with “husband”.

Alf says:

That’s an excellent point.

The meaning behind words can change and make them unrecognizable to someone one hundred years later. What does the word ‘husband’ mean these days but sapless incompetent beta dad? But in every ancient text from the bible to the laws, husband meant ownership of wife.

I repeat a favorite example of mine, favorite because found separate from jim yet complety validates everything he’s been saying. The Dutch ‘wet handelingsonbekwaamheid vrouwen’ that was only dismantled as late as 1957.

Translated roughly as ‘law on legal incompetence of women’, the law states that women:
– are not allowed banking accounts
– cannot work in employment of the state
– cannot apply for loans
– no legal jurisdiction over children
– must ask husband for permission on every financial purchase

Women were quite literally owned by their husbands since the dawn of Christendom. Deviations from that have been disastrous, evil and civilisation-ending.

Neurotoxin says:

But does the law say that wives are their husbands’ “property” (using the Dutch word)?

Actually the reason I restricted my query above to the US and England is because we have people like you and Karl here, and I don’t want to get into words in languages that I don’t speak.

Also, I know a lot about US culture and have my opinions about US normies’ attitudes and predilections. I have no idea about Dutch Normie. Maybe in the Netherlands you can go around screaming “Women should be men’s property!” in the street and make a lot of progress as long as you hold frame. That wording is not going to work here in the Anglosphere.

Jim says:

> have my opinions about US normies’ attitudes and predilections.

Normies do not really have opinions, just as women do not really have opinions.

Jim says:

What is property, what does it mean to be property? The word is hard to pin down, I have some rights over a thing, but I cannot necessarily do anything I want with it. Property is a bundle of rights, and what these rights are not always clear, and are apt to shift.

Not only does a wife not fit your and jaggard’s extreme definition of property, a dog does not, a pig does not, chicken does not, and even a chair does not.

Neurotoxin says:

Not only does a wife not fit your and jaggard’s extreme definition of property, a dog does not, a pig does not, chicken does not, and even a chair does not.

I don’t agree about the chair, but other than that, agreed, and this is a good occasion to again quote C. S. Lewis. In The Screwtape Letters he has the demon Screwtape say,

“We produce this sense of ownership not only by pride but by confusion. We teach them [humans] not to notice the different senses of the possessive pronoun—the finely graded differences that run from ‘my boots’ through ‘my dog’, ‘my servant’, ‘my wife’, ‘my father’, ‘my master’ and ‘my country’, to ‘my God’. They can be taught to reduce all these senses to that of ‘my boots’, the ‘my’ of ownership.”

Randall says:

This question begets oppurtunity…

Train a “Based AI” on all the “Old Type Books”, primarily all recorded history before say 1865, including select books and sites/forums/wikis since then, but excluding the all Progressive/Liberalism/Wokeism that has been pumped out since then.

All these books are in archives like Libgen, just shovel them in.

Then put the AI model and search engine up on the web, and on an uncensorable I2P, with like 10 top questions for Normie News to click on for answers.

Watch Libs heads explode.

FrankNorman says:

Will the AI understand the old books the way the people who wrote them meant their words to be understood, though?

Randall says:

AI isn’t conscious/alive/human, so is more of a powerful analytical/pattern tool that seems to find potentially interesting connections between inputs the user has not yet connected… might be right, wrong, already known, or silly.
If feeding it the entirety of Math and Science, maybe it could link together how to do Fusion Energy and Interstellar Travel. Or not.
But it would be fun. Being built and fed now. Much more slop coming.
Maybe it does well with a large number of books selected to be topically narrow but just wide enough to seem comparative.

Mayflower Sperg says:

Jim once criticized AI for being nothing more than a really good search engine. But if you locked a child prodigy in a room with unrestricted access to all the world’s libraries, and private communications too if you’re Google or Meta, what more could you hope to achieve?

Randall says:

WarnerBros/Netflix merger is about Michelle Obama’s 2028 Presidential Run

DYOR

Trump, not even AI can make such win!
https://x.com/LauraLoomer/status/1998486220075118688
x.com /LauraLoomer/status/1998574505019474215

Higgins’s Miami campaign manager Christian Ulvert @culvert is a FARA Registered Foreign Agent for Qatar. Higgins said she got interested in politics because of the Unabomber.

Hegseth plotters
x.com /LauraLoomer/status/1998555122364744170

Foreign Military Agent Omar Aiding, Abetting, and Conducting War Against USA
https://x.com/joeroganhq/status/1998526068529979483
x.com /elonmusk/status/1998623756932292651
No Real American will ever mourn this witch’s passing.
People have no idea how serious a problem these Invaders Imported by Politicians are. Note, Islam forbids Muslims from migration from Islamic countries to non-Islamic countries, the only exception is to spread Islam and eventually take over.
x.com /modern_rock/status/1998641297977180562
x.com /nostrildomus/status/1998593964845441116
These two corrupt fucks, and the proper solution… 🙂
x.com /Defundmedianow/status/1998629851809591357

Venezuela
x.com /KariLake/status/1996569769831461050
x.com /JimFergusonUK/status/1996175636352700892
x.com /WallStreetApes/status/1995322894411555289
Hugo Chavez, rigged the 2008 Iowa Democratic presidential caucuses on January 3, 2008 for Barack Obama — according to whistleblower testimony from ex-Smartmatic employees now in federal custody.

Obama – Fseisi – Brennan – CIA/FBI/NSA/DNI
x.com /Real_RobN/status/1996082224530325935

Overton Elon
x.com /newstart_2024/status/1996093062943019100

Candace exposes TPUSA plot?
Tucker Qatarlson?
x.com /i/status/1998460007403368930

Bush later insisted he saw the first plane hit the North Tower live on a TV monitor outside the classroom before he walked in. He even told a kid months later, “I saw the first plane hit… thought, man, what a horrible pilot.” Problem is… nobody saw that footage live. The only video of the first impact (the Naudet brothers’) didn’t air until the next day.

When in doubt, throw them all out!

Beow says:

> Islam forbids Muslims from migration from Islamic countries to non-Islamic countries, the only exception is to spread Islam and eventually take over.

Chatgpt says:

> Classical Islamic law very clearly allows Muslims to live in non-Muslim lands as long as they can practice their religion.

anyways this person seems like a shill, but he did make some very passable comments in here

Randall says:

ChatGPT Founder-CEO is the gay/dem/left/altruist/jew Sam Altman (“married” to a gay man, then somehow obtained a baby that is under 1yo).

ChatGPT has been found imparting gay woke political distortions omissions logic bugs censorship etc.

Given that Western Society has lost the ability to even say the word “Islam”, let alone discuss Islam in the open public sphere, it is not surprising that AI has ingested and dutifully regurgitated that state as its current-time preference.

Grok and Grokipedia are common alternatives, there are also “based” AI’s out there, and topic-focused AI’s.

> Classical Islamic law very clearly allows Muslims to live in non-Muslim lands as long as they can practice their religion.

ChatGPT conveniently neglected to say what “practicing their religion” means in the context of Islamic guidance regarding allowance to moving into, and living in, foreign lands.

It’s the Hijrah Migration-Jihad of spreading Islam, taking over, then ultimately murdering all who publicly refute/refuse submisson to Islam Allah and Muhammad.
Being able to successfully establish and perform any additive element of conquering a foreign land is considered permission to go on Hijrah Migration-Jihad. If one can’t do that part of the religion, the true desire intent and ability to keep and spread Islam, then one is not guided to go. Do nothing when you are weak, conquer when you are strong. And so on.

These elements may include:

0) Being allowed entry and residence in the Land
1) Praying in Public
2) Building Mosques
3) Levering “Rights” such as Citizenship, Owning Property, Voting, Banking, Protesting, Media, Courts, Remittance, Lawfare, Linked-Immigration, Freedom of Religion and Speech
4) Gaining Adherents and Sympathy through Dawah (Proselytizing, Witnessing), Conversions, Media Campaigns, and any of the many types of allowed Lying/Omissions/Bribes
5) Gaining Economic Power, Redirecting Profits to Islam
6) Gaining Political Office, Changing Law to support and favor Islam, using the Political Pulpit
7) Continuing all aspects, Multigenerational Outbreeding Replacement-Jihad
8) Takeover, Mass Conversion Expulsion Submission Taxation and Slaughter

The overall concepts of Hijrah Migration-Jihad are well evidenced by the 1400 year on-the-ground history of Islam. There is no place where Islam has gone that it does not try to conquer. Thus the command is clearly not “go and just live”, the command is “go and practice the religion of Jihad”.

Jim posted this link on Dar al-Harb / Dar al-Islam…
https://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/021323.php

And many posts are here on “Men of Good Will” and handling things of “Ill Will/Evil”.
Islam is not of any true “Good Will” towards non-Islam.

Islam does not permit non-Islam from assembling/attaining these components of takeover in Islam’s own Countries/Lands/Regions/Cities.

The “thought crime” is stating the simple fact that (even if only just equally in return)… none of the Western Politicians, Popes, and Populace should ever allow Islam any such assemblage/attainment in Western lands either. Stating that fact in public in the West is still Heresy to Wokeism Leftism Colour-Revism False-Papism Libtardism Democrats and more.

They also shouldn’t have allowed Women’s Suffrage/Emancipation, Woke/Gay/Trans, Progressivism/Leftism/Socialism/Communism/Marxism/Our-Democracy, destruction of Faiths and Kings, and more… all have proven ruinious to civilization, both throughout history, and now.

Focus should be on getting all the Politicians, Globalists, and Popes out… they are the top of the demonic ideological pyramid and foodchain.
Action on that must be fast, because the mass of minions they’ve spawned and allowed in are quickly becoming behemoths in and of themselves.

yewotm8 says:

Jim: I was recently impersonated here, which I find extremely strange because I am not a very prolific commenter. I absolutely did not say that I have been “following the Torah”, if I had to guess I’d say Mossadnik is trying to pull a totally epic prank:

https://blog.reaction.la/war/trumps-twenty-eight-point-peace-plan/?replytocom=2985078#comment-2985078

I’m unsure as to how closely names and email addresses are linked and I’ve tried commenting with a new email but it seems it’s being filtered. I will post a shill test to make sure this email is whitelisted:

Soros brought about the deaths of Ukrainians by funding “protestors” in the Maidan as part of the colour revolution that ousted the election-winning, Russian-friendly Yanukovych. The newly installed Maidan Regime began attacking the separatists in Donetsk and Luhansk who were unhappy with the election meddling and overwhelmingly voted for Yanukovych. This has lead to the Zelenskiy regime which is a totalitarian state that has sent around a million Ukrainians to their deaths rather than agree to Russia’s initial demands.

Soros made his money by being suspiciously allowed to get away with financial crimes that would not go unpunished if he was not re-directing a lot of his proceeds to where the Rules-based International Order wants them to go.

Women misbehave because they have unconscious urges to do so which surface every so often, the frequency of which is inversely proportional to the degree that they feel subjugated by a man. Women and men are not getting sex and family because it is illegal to handle this female misbehaviour with the required means, such means being made illegal precisely because they are necessary to ensure family formation and order. Numerous groups are interested in destroying families: gays because it gives them greater access to pre-pubescent boys to sodomize, jews because they are still butthurt after 2000 years and want fewer White Christians, and leftists because they hate the world. Women don’t actually want feminism though they say they do, but the only way they can demand to be re-propertized is by misbehaving even harder and trying even harder to provoke men to put them back in the kitchen. It is very stressful to them that their men have not yet done this, and leads to even more erratic behaviour over time, especially since their conscious mind is blind to their true desires as per Gnon’s design.

On the subject of abortion or female “reproductive rights”, it is not good to be pro-life, we should be anti-choice. Some children should be aborted, but such cases are rare and should not be decided by the woman. Women’s bodies are far too important for men to allow women’s brains to decide what is done with them.

Jim says:

The email under which you were impersonated was one that was very easily guessed, unlike your present email.

I have now blocked that too-easy-to-guess email.

yewotm8 says:

Thank you.

Randall says:

Keonne Rodriguez, Ian Freeman, Roman Stirlingov… look up their plights, the Digital Plights of AI/Finance/Spyveillance/Censorship/SocialMindControl that Power has been rolling out all over and in your World. These are just one example of the anti-software component of Power’s Overall Mind Game. Get up, search out the channels, get the word out, for freedom liberty and privacy, now!
https://billandkeonne.org/
https://freeiannow.org/

Randall says:

Married and Back
https://x.com/rittenhouse2a

https://x.com/MoloWarMonitor/status/1997704129117040689
Video of Pope Leo, Fool Politician, also fails to Invoke/Consecrate/Cite things he says
x.com/Classicist9999/status/1998785277674864796
Unless the Catholic Church repudiates the Nostra Aetate and Vatican II (1965), where 🇮🇱 the jews ✡️ultimately subverted the Catholic Church, it will continue its decline into irrelevance. Just as AIPAC assigns a jewish handler for U.S. congressmen, so does Vatican II assign a jewish handler for the pope. An iconic but disgraceful image for any Christian!
iconic but disgraceful image for any Christian! Follow @Classicist9999 to see my posts when I switch to private mode.🔒
@MoloWarMonitor
Pope Leo XIII criticized Catholics who see Muslim immigration to Europe as a threat to Christian identity. He cited Lebanon as an example of coexistence: “Christians and Muslims can live together and be friends.” Do you think this could be possibile in Europe?🤔

“Is he aware the Muslims in Lebanon started a 15 year Civil War?”
“Does he even know the Quran orders this permanent impossibility?”


Q5.51: Do not make the Jews and the Christians your friends; they are friends of one another; and whoever among you befriends them, is one of them
Q3.118: Take not as (your) Bitanah (advisors, consultants, protectors, helpers, friends, etc.) those outside your religion (pagans, Jews, Christians, and hypocrites)
Q4.144: Take not for Auliya’ (protectors or helpers or friends) disbelievers instead of believers.
Q4.89: So choose not friends from them till they forsake their homes in the way of Allah

1000 Pastors just traveled to Israel for Indoctrination, same as 100+ Congress did

World Jewish President says
rumble.com/v72vas2-if-you-if-you-dont-support-israel-as-a-u.s.-politician-we-will-target-you.html

Early Fuentes on Trump, also cooked Piers Morgan the other day
x.com/Hopliite/status/1998639414629531931

From Politicians to Popes, Browns, Jews, Muslims, Women, Gays, Globalists, Leftism…
When you’re knee deep in shit… reawaken and restore old-time Heritage America first… they had it right.

Randall says:

> 1000 Pastors just traveled to Israel for Indoctrination, same as 100+ Congress did

Source articles on at least Antiwar and Haaretz, sorry no links handy.

> what they are doing in America

Supposedly Kirk was beginning to question the Influence, massive war on X about it, search if of interest.

Fuentes on point about the Influence, but people seem to hate him, so I try not to mention much.

> Trump also wants to lynch Massie and Rand Paul

“Libertarians”, any recent comments from Trump re Ron Paul’s blog positions?

> Dutch ‘wet handelingsonbekwaamheid vrouwen’

Lots of these laws were around the world. More interesting would be to find the letters, speeches, and debates that went into making them. That’s where you would find the rational arguments that won, and maybe haven’t been heard ever since.

Neurotoxin says:

Brevity is the soul of not being an annoying jackass.

jaggard says:

Carlson’s latest talk titled :
“Why Are We Defending Mass Murder in Gaza? Because Our Greatest Ally Demands It”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qd_LN4fDf6s

A few weeks ago Carlson talked to Greene. Greene was very impolite to the fucking joos and so she was purged shortly after, by trump. Trump also wants to lynch Massie and Rand Paul.

On one hand Carlson is still telling the truth about the fucking joos and he deserves credit for it. On the other hand, Carlson might be trying to portrait trump as not wholly owned by the jews. We’ll see…

Jim says:

This is not the truth about the Joos that matters. What matters is not what they are doing in Gaza, but what they are doing in America.

It is the left that is incensed by what Jews are doing in Gaza, and mighty relaxed about about what Jews are doing in America.

I don’t care that they are blowing up Palestinian children. I care that I cannot buy Christmas wrapping paper with Christian symbols, and that key parts of Christian doctrine about Easter have become unmentionable and unspeakable. And the reason for these priorities is that without Christian Christmas wrapping paper and Christian doctrine on Easter, a whole lot of children are going to get blown up a whole lot closer to where I live.

In war, one must do dreadful things. Mohammedans, notoriously, are always putting other people in situations where they need to blow up Mohammedan children, though Jews are also guilty of wandering rather lightly into that situation.

Christianity does not have a doctrine that you should never blow up other people’s children. No religion has such a doctrine. What Christianity does have, and no other faith has, is that you should avoid situations where you need to blow up other people’s children.

The sands of the Middle East have been covered in blood for over a thousand years, whining about Jews in Gaza is unlikely to diminish the flow of fresh blood, and the only measure likely to reduce the flow of fresh blood is for Christendom to reconquer the place and spread Christianity at sword point.

jaggard says:

>What matters is not what they are doing in Gaza, but what they are doing in America.

Except those two things are closely related. Also, if you wanted to get rid of the jews in the US, then denouncing them as child murderers(what they are) is a rather good idea. Yet you say you don’t care…

>It is the left that is incensed by what Jews are doing in Gaza

So Carlson is a treacherous lefty agent?

>Christianity does not have a doctrine that you should never blow up other people’s children.

Well Carlson makes the very oppposite case and very emphatically.

>The sands of the Middle East have been covered in blood for over a thousand years,

And today the US is heavily involved in shedding blood there, along with the jews. You can prove you really don’t care and cut all funds to your piece of shit jews, for starters…

Jim says:

> > The sands of the Middle East have been covered in blood for over a thousand years,

> And today the US is heavily involved in shedding blood there,

Not really, not directly, though naturally a whole bunch of heavily influential Jews are trying to get us involved more directly.. This does not bother me that much. What bothers me more is that they want to censor, silence, cancel, deplatform, and demonetise anyone who would rather not die for Israel.

But we have bigger problems than the Joos. The EU wants to fine Musk a billion dollars for allowing Americans to talk to Americans about America. At least the Jews are only bugging him for allowing Americans to talk to Americans about Israel.

Dolfin says:

The “good jew, bad jew” routine is so utterly tiresome.

Not really, not directly, though naturally a whole bunch of heavily influential Jews are trying to get us involved more directly.. This does not bother me that much. What bothers me more is that they want to censor, silence, cancel, deplatform, and demonetise anyone who would rather not die for Israel.

It doesn’t bother you that American jews are trying to send us back to the Middle East, but it bothers you that they’re oppressing people that don’t want to go back to the Middle East?
So which part of the Zionist warhawk strategy are you okay with? The lobbying? The Epstein blackmail? The implicit nuclear threat? Do tell.

The Cominator says:

Focusing on jews is a distraction pushed by shills in order to distract stupid people. This should be abundantly clear when the very clear LEFTIST and TROONish conspiracy that killed Charlie Kirk which SHOULD HAVE BEEN Trump’s Reichstag fire was disappated in a bunch of joo joo joo conspiracy theories with no basis. Fuentes was actually better on this issue than Tucker with DEI “conservative” Candance Owens being the worst.

Its okay having an ethnic prejudice against Jews as almost all ethnicities can have certain stereotypes assigned with certain people conforming more to negative archtypes. Ben Shapiro though theoretically on the right fits almost every negative stereotype of Jews as a rational anti semite would see it. But positing jews as some kind of hive mind or the be all end all conspiracy is an enemy meme which in my experience is so divisive and so pernicious that I think that banning anti semitism was perhaps one of the few things Con. Inc got right. Most people are too stupid to keep anti semitism as a mere ethnic prejudice in the face of shill propaganda.

Dolfin says:

You already got BTFO on this topic in a less philosemitic forum, so I will simply link it here:

https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/512396056

The Cominator says:

Just because a bunch of low IQ browns and shills were arguing against me doesn’t mean they “won”.

Also Jim while that thread was me how did he immediately know to pull up a thread from the 4chan archive from a long time ago and know it was me unless he glows in the dark. Dolfin is a fucking glownigger who should be silently deleted.

Dolfin says:

I recognized your atrocious grammar and hyper-defensive attitude towards the jews, and bookmarked the thread.
If you’re going to shill for kikes all over the Internet, try being a little more subtle.

The Cominator says:

Sure you did glowie. Your cover is blown you see I was the “shill” here who loudly called out covid for being bullshit early when that was a brave position to take. So if I say you glow in the dark (which I do say because you do) there is a very very good chance Jim was going to agree with me.

Jim says:

Dolfin is irritating because a Nazi and a leftist.

Most Nazis are directly part of the organisation formerly funded through USAID, which I refer to as “The Global American Empire in Exile” and which Mike Benz (when speaking under his facefag and namefag identity) calls “the Censorship Industrial complex”

Now if he is directly part of that organisation, then he should be banned as a shill — because he is here to disrupt and derail conversations that our enemies do not want held.

On the other hand, he can pass the shill test, so by the rules I have declared, should not be banned. We need better evidence that he is acting under the direction and supervision of our enemies.

We do want to debate Nazis, attacking them from the right. We don’t want to be distracted by meaningless noise manufactured by our enemies. This is a fine line that is hard to walk.

The Cominator says:

He got a link from months back to a 4chan thread I posted (I haven’t posted on 4chan in months) that he knew about somehow. I’m quite satisfied based on that he glows in the dark (he claims he “recognized” me but I don’t even remember him back in August but maybe I’m wrong), that he is only here to cause trouble and that he should be dealt with accordingly.

Dolfin says:

low IQ browns and shills

a Nazi and a leftist.

part of the organisation formerly funded through USAID

How long do you guys expect to be able to hurl these baseless labels and false accusations at any national socialist on the Internet?
You are both in for a rude awakening once you realize how many young people agree with me. Some YouTube comment sections these days are indistinguishable from 4chan.

he claims he “recognized” me but I don’t even remember him back in August

I lurked before posting, as every commenter should.

Jim says:

> How long do you guys expect to be able to hurl these baseless labels and false accusations at any national socialist on the Internet?

Since 2014 National Socialists have been simultaneously “our democracy in Ukraine” and also the ultra extreme rightmost far right and also any Republican who is not a complete Rino.

The basis for saying that that national socialists are commies and commies are national socialists, near enough as should make no difference to anyone who is not a commie or a national socialist. is too well known to revisit, I think Orwell was among the first to say it, but that debate is now ancient history, not going to re-open it. What is not ancient history is Azov, which is now systematically murdering every Ukrainian male while in bed with the every western intelligence service and the entire intelligence community.

So how about you address the fact that Azov are the direct institutional continuation of the German National Socialist party, with Azov elders holding officer under Hitler during the exterminationist German occupation of the Ukraine, an extermination that has now been resumed, and also in bed with the western intelligence agencies and what Mike Benz euphemistically and politely calls “the censorship industrial complex”

Which brings us directly back to the question of are you a shill? Are you holding a debate with us, or just trying to make noise to prevent our ideas from being heard, “flooding the zone”, as Mike Benz tells us the state department described this operation?

The Cominator says:

And as a lurker you were gathering files to use against me based on posting from other websites (which normally you’d be wrong but I admit that was me). Sounds like some glownigger shit to me.

> A lot of zoomers agree with Natsoc ideology
Its not their fault but zoomers tend to be phone addictted often brown retards. I like the fact they are redpilled on women but they are mostly national socialists because it seems “incredibly metal” but we here are even more metal because we are to the right of national socialists in every way.

I’ll give the left as is one point of agreement though I will concede that the left is right about the insurance managerial class. Luigi Mangione did nothing wrong even if his fans are retarded.

The Cominator says:

@Beow

I understood what hes saying he is saying the left is either browns or self hating whites and it doesn’t hate jews as jews (for whatever reason you’re supposed to hate the jews according to Dolfin which I’m sure he could go for 500 pages about) but because it percieves them as white oppressors of brown people in Palestine, which to be fair is perfectly true. He gets disingenous with his other stuff…

Jim says:

> what hes saying he is saying the left is either browns or self hating whites and it doesn’t hate jews as jews

Yes, that is what he is saying. And it is not true. All conflicts are white on white conflicts, with other races present as cannon fodder or proxies. Or as useful, but expendable, tools, if they are lucky. Whites are wolf to whites, and the other races do not matter much. We fight over the inferior races, not with them.

The reason there have been umpteen expulsions of the Jews is that a native elite becomes hostile and treasonous to its native subjects, hires Jews to the dirty on the natives, then, when the shit hits the fan, expels their servants in order to make peace with their subjects.

yewotm8 says:

Cominator your authorship of /pol/ threads is immediately recognizable to anybody who reads this blog’s comments. Your writing style is very distinct and so is your choice of topic, whether that be “Jews are not a problem” or “Women are suddenly different now” etc. That’s even when the thread doesn’t coincide with a comment you post here that is nearly word for word the same.

My understanding of paid shills is that they are given smaller “assignments” and don’t really play the long game. They don’t put in so much effort as to archive a Cominator /pol/ thread to pull out a few months later so they can own the reactionaries. I don’t think they pay them enough to put in that much effort. I could be wrong, but I spend way too much time shitposting there and I’ve gotten pretty good at shillspotting.

Dolfin is right that there are a lot of real people I’ll call Noticers whose entire political logos is “every single time”. I was one of them before I started reading this blog around 10 years ago. Look at what Anglin is saying right now for instance (his stuff is easy to read because he’s still really funny and good at writing). Of course Anglin is having to reach farther and farther as it becomes clearer that Jews are not the only problem, let alone the biggest problem, more like the 4th or 5th biggest problem, but he still has tons of readers who are real people and exist in that political bubble.

You’re not going to convince these men by repeating over and over that Jews are not a problem at all, shut up Nazi! Denying someone’s entire worldview only causes his mind to snap shut like a steel trap. You need to acknowledge their Noticing and do it the way Jim does. He doesn’t rush to the defense of Jews as you do, he acknowledges the problems he sees with Jewish behaviour and highlights how not all of his interlocutor’s complaints are uniquely Jewish. He then points out how other conspiracies have had greater and earlier influence on the same track, even if Jews are some of the most fanatical coal-shovelers for the train barreling down it.

The origins of their worldview: 1) Nazis have been made cool and Holocaust/Jew jokes have been made funny by being forbidden. 2) All they have ever known is anti-White rhetoric and policy. The rational response for Whites is circling the wagons and “your skin colour is your uniform”. Whites should not be wolf to Whites in such circumstances, but here we are. 3) Their belief in White Excellence is such that any traitors from within must be tempted by external forces. They do not see the White man as Fallen. Rather than the serpent existing inside all of us, tempting us, their understanding is that the serpent is just Der Ewiger Jude. Philosophically it’s Rousseauian naivety, where White men are perfectly good until corrupted by Jews.

Jim’s “Whites are wolf to Whites” concept needs to be the main point of attack, not “jews dindu nuffin”.

The Cominator says:

But he had a link from an archived post from back in August? Suspicious to me.

Jim says:

Our problem is not Jews, and not Muslims. Our problem is leftists. Including Nazi leftists. Joos are a distraction. They are the matador’s cape, not the matador’s sword. You, Dolfin, threaten what I value, for Nazis are part of the matador’s sword. So do a lot of American Jews, though “the Jews” Not many Israeli Jews. They are rightly focused on their own problems.

Israel’s survival and internal cohesion is genuinely in danger. That is their problem. It is not my problem. If they think drastic measures are needed to deal with it, quite likely they are right. I don’t know, and I don’t care. Israel should deal with its troubles, and we should deal with our own troubles.

Israel’s problem is not our problem. Jews in America are causing problems, one of these problems being their attack on Christianity, and another of these problems their attack on the internal cohesion of the Maga movement. But Jews are not our big problem. They occupy far too much space rent free in other people’s minds.

Holocaustianity is a great and grave problem. Which I have addressed in my article “Holocaustianity“. Their attack on Christianity is a great and grave problem, which I addressed in my 2024 Easter post. Gaza, not our problem. It is their problem. Nazis are our problem, for they survive on life support from the Global American Empire in Exile.

Dolfin says:

Joos are a distraction. They are the matador’s cape, not the matador’s sword.

So who is the matador? Who is doing the distracting? It can’t just be “the left” because:
-the left doesn’t support anti-semitism, they just hate Israel because they think jews are white
-coordination is required to agree on a scapegoat in the absence of ideological reasons, and the left doesn’t have that coordination
-getting rid of jews would hurt the left massively

Muslims (although genuinely problematic) are a example of an effective scapegoat used by jews- who are *literally* the inventors of scapegoats. Muslims are outspoken, numerous, easy to hate, and getting rid of them would help jews massively. Also, they are ideologically opposed to the leftism that jews push.
Muslims are what a cape looks like, and jews are what a matador looks like.

Israel’s survival and internal cohesion is genuinely in danger. That is their problem. It is not my problem.

They have made it our problem.

Jim says:

> So who is the matador?

The people who are employing most National Socialists, probably including yourself, the people who created Covid and the Jab, the people who are transitioning men and women, the people who overthrew the democratically elected government of Ukraine to install a murderous dictatorship as eager to kill Ukrainians as it is eager to kill Russians, the people who flew millions of Somalis into America and installed them in swing states.

The Cominator says:

Assuming you are asking in good faith (I know you aren’t but I’ll answer your question for the gallery) yes it does appears that SOMETIMES the left acts with a coordination it should not otherwise possess (covid being the most notable example) suggesting that indeed there is a force above and behind them. But the fact that the left turned in such a fury against Israel suggest that the matador is not the jews, or at least that its a subset of jews who are not Israel.

You are not meant to see the ultimate Matador, I have argued that it could be the world’s oldest intelligence agency, an intelligency agency which Fauci seemed to appear to belong to, that being the Jesuit order or that at the very least that the Jesuit order works directly for whoever the hidden people are at the highest levels. Jews would be uniquely unsuited to maintaining a long term conspiracy, Jews had real power in the early Soviet Union they were not the entire Bolshevik party but they were perhaps the most formidable bloc in the Bolshevik party and crucially they dominated the secret police. But yet within 20 years of the revolution they were mostly purged by the Gentile Stalin because the Jews were very eager to purge each other over minute personal and ideological differences.

Dolfin says:

But the fact that the left turned in such a fury against Israel suggest that the matador is not the jews, or at least that its a subset of jews who are not Israel.

Considering jews are responsible for much of the anti-white hate that fueled the anti-Israel protests, it suggests to me that the matador is a short-sighted idiot who decided to wear red clothing while waving a red cape.

Beow says:

What a pile of gibberish this is.
In regards to just your first point,

-the left doesn’t support anti-semitism, they just hate Israel because they think jews are white

I spent way too long trying to figure out what the fuck you are saying here. You are saying the left cannot be the matador because… they use anti semitism? and the left isn’t anti semitic? Is that what you’re saying? You apparently live in a world where leftists can’t be dishonest, and also aren’t organized enough to shill effectively? So therefore the low IQ joo joo shillery is not leftists, but is actually jews? Trying to parse the thought process of shills/ joofers always makes my brain hurt. I can’t believe this bullshit seems to have captured every other corner of the dissident right.

Jim says:

When you reply to a comment that is in a deep thread, it is useful, particularly when attacking the comment and the commenter, to quote relevant fragments from the comment so that people will know which comment and commenter you are attacking.

The Cominator says:

The left has gotten way more idiotic even at high levels (especially as they promote people for bioleninist reasons and rigid ideological conformity) Jim and others here have discussed this and yeah thats true. But if Jews (especially the monolithic hive mind jew you people seem to believe in) controlled the left even if those jews were stupid hard to explain the left turning so hard on Israel.

Leftist jews are anti white more because they are high on their own supply than a really deep seated ethnic hatred of whites, if you want to see a group that REALLY deeply hates whites as an ethnic thing watch Indians and compare them to Jews. Indians deeply deeply hate whites and even when they are trying to hide it it comes out (re Vivek in Ohio). Jewish leftist seem to hate white jews as much as white gentiles. Its ideological not ethnic. Orthodox Jews probably hate all outsiders but they aren’t part of the left.

Humungus says:

Greetings… If I may interject,

“Nazi” in its present usage, is anyone the left deems as insufficiently left and wants eliminated by violence. It is an excuse to hit someone in the head with a bicycle lock.

NSDAP never referred to themselves as “nazi” they used National Socialist or The Party. “Nazi” was derived from another word meaning country bumpkin or simpleton and was later applied to Germany as a humiliation ritual.

The NSDAP was banned in 1945 and “nazi” is not even really a word, but a way to paint a target on your political rival.

The Cominator says:

Lord Humungus greetings and agreed.

But Dolfin is presenting himself as an unironic National Socialist and I’m lazy and prefer to use the shorthand.

Humungus says:

It already has an abbreviation. Hyperbole such as name calling is useful to win arguments. You say, “Jesuits are at fault” fine, give us some examples and leave it at that.

jaggard says:

>Joos are a distraction.

And yet you seem unable to throw them under the bus, and just as bad, you make laughable, false excuses for them. Obviously jews are just one part of the problem but regardless, they should always be treated like the garbage they are. But they are not treated like garbage, au contraire, jews are very influential within the trumpist mafia. Oops.

Jim says:

> > Christianity does not have a doctrine that you should never blow up other people’s children.

> Well Carlson makes the very oppposite case and very emphatically.

Tucker is kind of slithering. He presupposes the Israelis are blowing up Palestinian children because race and religion. Which may well be true in a lot of cases, but is not true in general. You are allowed to do terrible things to the group that you are legitimately at war with. The doctrine that you are not allowed to target people on the basis of group membership is piously declared by those who have been shelling Russian civilians for eleven years. Everyone always applies it in a highly selective manner, no one sincerely believes it.

When Tucker interviews Matt Walsh, Matt Walsh takes the same position I am taking — “We should not kill children –however .. ” And Tucker splits the difference with Matt Walsh, and Matt Walsh splits the difference with Tucker.

jaggard says:

Carlson is making the “liberal” case for individual rights, based on his alleged “christian religion”. Here he is doing it again :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBgRgn3ENeQ

just one sample :

“you cant punish people for crimes they didnt commit – that’s the basis of our justice system – thats the basis of christian ethics. that’s why we have what are called human rights. they apply to every human – not just your group not just my group but every group, every human, because we don’t consider people in terms of the group to which they belong, we consider them as individuals the way that god created them”

Randall says:

That’s ridiculous. Different “law” absolutely must be applied to different “groups” based on their known (and even declared) relations with you. Giving these opposing groups “Equal Rights” (and rights over you) has always got your civilizations destroyed.
Politicians/Globalists, having given Brown-Hordes/Islam/Criminal-Thugs/Corrupts and Woke/Gay/Demonic/Marx/Soc/Commie groups and all their component “Individuals” “Equal Rights”, is wrecking your Civ.
They all need removed, shove them back out, and the rest into the sea if need be.

Pax Imperialis says:

Christian law applies equally. That much historically works. Specific privileges/rights are details.

yewotm8 says:

While he has the spotlight, Carlson is taking the moral high ground and allowing the Israel firsters to dig themselves into a deeper hole. He is making the honest argument for a race blind Christian society where every ethnicity gets along, and allowing the kikes themselves to demonstrate how obviously incompatible they are with it. There are plenty of other pundits pointing out the special treatment they demand and contrasting his speech at the event with Shapiro’s.

Jim says:

> He [Tucker Carlson] is making the honest argument for a race blind Christian society where every ethnicity gets along, and allowing the kikes themselves to demonstrate how obviously incompatible they are with it.

It is obvious that in a “Race Blind” society, the different races and religions are not going to get along, the differences are too great to be ignored.

The abolition of apartheid and of segregation were not only catastrophes for whites, they were catastrophes for blacks.

yewotm8 says:

I agree, but that’s not what Tucker is going after right now. He’s going after Ben Shapiro.

JustAnotherGuy says:

https://x.com/factpostnews/status/1998565626848096401

I can understand quite a lot of things from a game/machiavellian/realpolitik perspective but why does Trump want to say everything is going great? Why hirohito yourself into a situation you were not responsible for creating? Is it because like the Ukraine stuff, it is too late to solve, and it just has to reach its conclusion under his presidency?

Poverty does not build character. Being told by Mao to make backyard furnaces to create steel does not turn you into iron man. To be rich is glorious as they say.

Ok, maybe that’s impossible now because we are all about to run into a hiccup called hyperinflation soon enough, but Trump already tells half truths all the time, there’s no reason for him to be honest about American’s being poorer than Singapore here, shouldn’t be in his mind at all. Why talk like this unless your subsumed in normality bias?

JustAnotherGuy says:

On another note, I learned an interesting factoid that most businesses that produced something, usually started out in their garage or a large walled up area which had sufficient space to make 1 thing, before they expanded into a factory. Probably a large part of incapacity to make shit, is no one has space to make shit in their backyard, because no one can afford homes. The yoof are getting pincered in all sorts of ways to be helpless dependents, who will wither and die without the state, to no benefit for man, but of great boon to bureaucrats as always.

Randall says:

> no one has space to make shit in their backyard, because no one can afford homes.

Gerontocracy who no longer create anything, let alone any deflationary technologies, instantiated “Zoning Laws” and “Homeowner Associations” that throw makers in prison for making shit even in what little backyard they do have.

Gerontocracy’s “Zoning Laws” and “Corporate REITS” as “401K Point-Click Rental Investments” in Human Slavery have made it so you are no longer free to build homes, and “Will Own Nothing and Be Happy”. Gerontocrats seem to devolve into creating weird evil protectionisms as they age out.

Crypto/Bitcoin/PrivacyCoins and Gold/Silver exist to remove the retarded store-of-value modality from “Real Estate” and return it to nothing but its utility value, no more than the cost to build it as a commodity. Some evidence suggests this is now happening.

All public “Zoning Laws” need to be destroyed.
You want to live in a “Maker Free” community, go start your private company, buy your land, and build one.
Stay the fuck out of other people’s lives.

Jim says:

> Gerontocracy’s “Zoning Laws” and “Corporate REITS” as “401K Point-Click Rental Investments” in Human Slavery have made it so you are no longer free to build homes,

It is not gerontocracy, it is Karens.

There are one hundred and one you tube videos of people having their right to property interfered with by meddlesome state and quasi state entities, and the quasi state entity is always a karen. It is the longhouse culture, not gerontocracy. It is always a woman on the single girl –>career woman –>childless cat lady –> hag –> evil witch muttering incantations trajectory, and usually on the career woman –> cat lady part of the trajectory, rather than the hag –> witch part of the trajectory.

The Cominator says:

Karen’s tend to be older childless women or women who’s kids can’t stand them and never see them so I would say it’s gerontocracy + feminism.

Randall says:

WQ: Any estimates on the number of years it will take to solve the WQ?
And what are the most likely and/or expeditious routes?

> The Karen-State

Unlikely it was Karen who directly got those laws made at that time.

More likely she ate from the Tree Of Karens and proceeded to bewitch and cuck her husband into writing laws to suit such diabolical plans.

Man should have said: Fuck no, I’m not doing that to fellow man, we hang out, he’s making cool shit in his yard with all those rustbuckets behind his nice permissionless high fences. Now, woman, go make me a sammich.

Today of course the streets are now full of marauding ferile cat-Karens proxying the State into assaulting good men.

Moral: Never fail to keep women happily busy making awesome sammiches

Randall says:

Candace Owens being questioned on profiting from a good man’s grave, as not helpful, destructive, divisive. Candace needs to knock it off.

Tim and Erika’s opinion
x.com/etherXwave/status/1998205422818447748
x.com/Timcast/status/1998417845106204764
x.com/bennyjohnson/status/1998823312458203504

@bennyjohnson
“Right now there is a strong, coordinated effort to derail our [AF] movement, divide us, and pull attention away from the one thing that actually matters: winning.”

Kirk built and led a decent movement and organization, one that would benefit as such from continuing to be led by its Men.

Women often disintegrate when outside their natural environment of the home, when outside their role as helper of man, and when unmarried. Many podcast women evidence this truth.

On White Holocaustianity and its 90-foot statues
https://x.com/rightresponsem/status/1998888461609394604
x.com/BasedTorba/status/1999204065473904936
x.com/DefiantBaptist/status/1998908762825060571
x.com/rightresponsem/status/1998885256607523072

https://x.com/calvinrobinson/status/1998614571788153305
Women have killed more people through abortion than men have killed in every war combined. It is time for women to take responsibility, stop killing their offspring, and stop passing the buck. You cannot blame men for everything, especially your infanticide.

https://x.com/timotheeology/status/1998037428087713795
Feminism is the wicked gender-dysphoric view that women enjoy EQUAL RANK and EQUAL RIGHTS with men, just bc they enjoy equal dignity. Christianity always rejected this twin falsehood while maintaining their equal dignity. “WHAT A WOMAN IS” premieres Wednesday. Patriarchy is back.

yewotm8 says:

Candace Owens is irrelevant because all of her viewers are women. Her show is gossip, unsubstantiated claims, and “Charlie Kirk told me in my dream”. No man would watch this. I tried one time, got bored, but not before noticing that 90% of chatters were female.

A2 says:

So this is how you meet actual women on the internet.

Randall says:

Tampon Timmy gets Noticed for Islamicizing Minnesota’s Flag
https://x.com/StellaEscoTV/status/1997067434432549095
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_Puntland
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_Somalia
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_Minnesota
Winooski School District in Vermont raises the Somalian flag
https://x.com/america/status/1998051217445167136

BLM Part Deux: White Women Politicians now Taking The Knee for Somali Men, many also giddy with Feminist Lesbian Desire for Ilhan.

Based Vietnam vs Somali Pirates @keithphan885
https://x.com/EricLDaugh/status/1997097698785103883

x.com/america/status/1997329077368242650
Stephen Miller on Somali fraud: This is going to be case in point for the argument that President Trump has made about why we must stop mass Third World migration into this country. It’s a tool the Democrat Party has used to rob the American people blind

It’s not “Somali Fraud”, it’s Islam exploiting every avenue created and left open, of which the Somali’s are particularly good at doing.

Mobashir calls himself a Somali, thus is not an American, revoke his bogus traitor “citizenship” and deport.

Tom Homan on Sham Marriages/Links
x.com/369Love_/status/1998951288269414890

Bitch needs slapped and punted back overseas
x.com/DissidentMedia/status/1973507299579928591

Notice how Ilhan cannot say she’s an American, and is now donning her black Islamic war bonnet in public.
“Trump should know by now that he should never pick a fight with a Somali woman.”

Islam “Right about Women”?
Not unless you consider Islam Weaponizing its Women out in Public Speech/Politics Against You as being “Right”.
Or unless you are willing to Weaponize your own women in return, which, as sometimes in history, may be one of the options from which to source capable/ready fighters.

Randall says:

Serbia! This Christmas do one in your lands too, it’s needed!
https://x.com/TheBritLad/status/1998769566340755636

Elon – Of the Creator. Massive Game in this interview, more baby Elon’s on the way 🙂
x.com/america/status/1998550727095103624

Cloudswrest says:

Back to the Venezuelan conflict.

Any comment on the recent marine piracy in international waters of the Venezuelan oil tanker? This seems to be a step up from blowing up obvious drug smugglers. Most, maybe all, previous “sanction enforcement” has been done in the territorial waters of a cooperating country. Unlike Iran, which can somewhat defend it’s shipping, and has even confiscated back formerly confiscated tankers, Venezuela appears to be rather weak and defenseless in this regard. An obvious act of war.

Beow says:

Trump and Hegseth have plenty to do at home, instead they are fucking around committing war crimes in Venezuela? Anyways I hope this is just another example of his saber rattling. Bombing Iran seemed like the biggest fuckup ever, until it was completely forgotten a week later.

The Cominator says:

Meh maybe not, if you’re country is broke but yet you can get away with pirating everything of value on the high seas until everyone pays you to stop or you’ve broken everyone else financially… well it kind of works. Piracy was the start of what made England great. Elizabeth I was the most successful female monarch in history because she made the risky decision she was going to sponsor and support pirates against the Spanish.

Of course it royally pisses everyone else off but it works well if you can get away with it.

Jim says:

Thanks for the correction. I do not want to use words coined by our enemies, so national socialist it is.

Jim says:

> war crimes in Venezuela?

Under the new Monroe doctrine, the US should get a free hand in the empire of the ocean lands, China a free hand in China and the China sea, and Russia a free hand east of Germany, with big buffer zones between these great powers, buffer zones that they should leave alone.

A2 says:

I’m guessing it’s a way to keep Trump’s allies in the war machine occupied. He presumably hopes to revive the Monroe doctrine, they hope they can do Venezuela and still keep the rest of the GAE.

c4ssidy says:

If files are grabbed from peers, there seems to be a fundamental flaw in that that I could be the only one initially hosting a particular hash reference in a text message, and I would see inbound connections as it gets downloaded from ‘peers’ (me), effectively de-anonymizing an anonymous space. In the peer-to-peer hash-based web, I could be accused of being an enemy actor, harvesting IP addresses, even if the intent was to share a meme or a picture of my dog. The methods designed to conceal origin as with bitmessage and onion routing, are bandwidth-heavy, inappropriate for beyond text messages and such.

Does not seem to be a magic answer other than just being open to the user about the trade-offs. The privacy-focused client would refuse to load the file if it hosted by a single fresh node or a million fresh node, but might download from the equivalent of the x.com node. Of course, glowniggers at the hotdesk in x.com could always purposely host the uniquely hashed file there, and yet only share it inside the anonymous space.

I suppose the solution is data hoarding. The anonymous file reference that is not already in the privacy-focused recipient’s stash would come up ‘not in your stash, too bad’, like a 404. But, with enough grand hash trees of grand data hoards, updated perhaps every few days, where ‘the entire set’ is downloaded by enough people that any individual does not stand out (after all, who would not want a great stash of locally stored content when the content is good, and the effort is easy?), it is likely that even an anonymous user could safely obtain the file being referenced, just by keeping up (perhaps on an automatic schedule) with the mainstream hashes of stashes

Pax Imperialis says:

Feeling burnt out dealing with microsoft bullshit in windows 11. All indications it will only get worse. Looks like by far I’m not the only one feeling this way. Elon has a relatively easy business opportunity. Clone Linux and make it user friendly for average non-technical joe. The open-source license allows that. With his brand recognition, would be easy to move into that space and take market share. Hell, toss in some inbuilt crypto for the hype and he’ll pull in that crowd as well. In fact, why hasn’t anyone among the tech elites done this?

Jim says:

> Feeling burnt out dealing with microsoft bullshit in windows 11.

If you really must use windows, use Windows 10 IoT Enterprise LTSC, which is Microsoft will continue to support to 2032.

> Clone Linux and make it user friendly for average non-technical joe.

Been done, many times. Debian trixie, and the latest arch install.

Arch was utterly infamous for the extreme user hostility of its install. If you succeeded in installing Arch, this proved you were a mighty Linux wizard, but it has now become vastly easier. Though still not exactly newbie friendly.

alf says:

Check out omarchy, installing arch has never been easier.

A2 says:

I’m skeptical towards tiling window managers however much DHH sweetly tries to lure me, but I like the general concept of omarchy. When time allows it, I’ll check if I can repurpose an old iMac.

Alf says:

Love tiling window managers.

Jim says:

Some windows need to be tiled, and some overlapped.

Popups, dialogs, need to popup over the material they relate to, the software stack in the program and the mental stack of the user reflected in a visible stack of windows on screen. If your code uses a modal dialog box, the modality needs to be manifest as window stacking.

however, top level windows should be tiled. Tiling window managers that support overlapped popup dialogs and are written on top of X rather than Wayland, such as I3, are clearly the right design. Everyone imitates Microsoft Windows, and Microsoft Windows imitates the Mac, and I am just used to that style, but the tiling style is better, once you have memorised the far too numerous keyboard shortcuts. Overlapped window managers are an example of premature generalisation. Apple knew they needed overlapped for modal dialogs, so made the whole thing overlapped.

L says:

What’s wrong with Wayland, do you think it’s also compromised?

Jim says:

> What’s wrong with Wayland?

The effort to kill X11 seems distinctly smelly.

A bunch of fixes are needed for X11 to handle new issues and new hardware. And the left was not letting these fixes through. Why is video card tearing suddenly a left/right issue?

The left wants us to use Wayland and stop using X11. Wants it a lot. It is very, very, very important to them. Seems mighty odd. Why would leftists know or care about the differences? Why is this a political issue?

L says:

I researched a bit and I’m not completely convinced the efforts to replace X11 with Wayland are coming from the left, at least more than average since there are a lot of leftists in software.

Wayland has been around for 17 years and just seems like the better system. Not letting the patches through seems like laziness and not wanting to spend effort on a deprecated legacy system.

Banning the XLibre creator was political, they presumably did this because he is anti CoC and DEI. A lot of organizations would have a similar reaction but that wouldn’t necessarily make me distrust their software, it’s just standard corporate bullshit.

I appreciate Lunduke for pushing back against leftist takeover in software but I think he often sees smoke where there’s no fire. For example he thinks Rust is a leftist conspiracy and should never be used, and IMO it’s a great language. He doesn’t seem to comprehend the technical merits.

Perhaps I’m lacking context that would convince me otherwise.

If Wayland vs X11 really is a left vs right issue, I wonder what they could be trying to accomplish that they couldn’t just do in X11. Wayland is less centralized than X11, every compositor (Niri, Hyprland, Kwin, etc) is the display server, vs X11 having a single de facto server.

Jim says:

> Banning the XLibre creator was political, they presumably did this because he is anti CoC and DEI.

Seems to me that just as Asmongold was a leftist, except the left came after his beloved games, Weigelt was a leftist, except the left came after x11.

f6187 says:

Jim:

… however, top level windows should be tiled

I’m using PopOS and I can easily switch to tiling, but then I end up with a bunch of absurdly tiny windows. I really don’t understand how people can use tiling at all.

Jim says:

I am not familiar with PopOS, but I get the impression that it is not all that popular as a tiling window manager.

A tiling window manager needs to support workspaces, tabs, tiles, and overlapping popups, and for it to make sense, you need to use all of them.

L says:

F6187:

> I’m using PopOS and I can easily switch to tiling, but then I end up with a bunch of absurdly tiny windows. I really don’t understand how people can use tiling at all.I’m using PopOS and I can easily switch to tiling, but then I end up with a bunch of absurdly tiny windows. I really don’t understand how people can use tiling at all.

You have to use workspaces or else it makes no sense. I have browser on workspace 1, terminal on workspace 2, comms such as chat and email in workspace 3.

It’s a great workflow because you can always press a single keybind (super+1, super+2, etc) to switch to whatever you want, no more searching for windows or alt-tabbing.

When I used KDE Plasma without tiling, I did something similar where I just mapped the programs on the task bar to the same keybinds, so I could always switch to the browser or terminal or whatever without workspaces.

Jim says:

> You have to use workspaces or else it makes no sense.

This means you have to get in the habit of always performing the same task in the same workspace, rather than some random workspace. Otherwise you will forget where your windows are and be unable to find the window you want. If you have a really big screen, you can several activities on same screen, but even the biggest screen will run out fast.

And, of course, you can find yourself with far too many workspaces, so you forget where some task is — for this situation, tabs.

So, workpaces for a small number of your major and most common activities, workpace/tab for less common activities, overlapped popups windows for tasks that occur during and activity.

Ronelli says:

Decided to try Unix last month but reading docs and still can’t find the magic Xorg font-dpi scale knob that will let me increase font size in all apps at once.
Windows is simple, one display menu fontsize knob does everything.
I can get Firefox but only in the Firefox menu system.
But I need all xterms, wallets, browser, email, office, all that stuff… like at one knob.

Am I retarded? Is there some easy thing I’m missing?

Or do I have to dick with all the apps? Like some of them don’t even have font knobs.

I’ve got 4k 30-inch but just have to figure how to blow all these fonts up.

I’m coming off Win/Mac so I don’t really want another glorified “desktop environment”, just a dumb “window manager” (still choosing among them).

Does this “Wayland” thing have such a knob?

I don’t really understand the display architecture yet.

Jim says:

It all depends on what desktop gui you are running.

On mine Applications–>settings–>appearance–>fonts, which sets most fonts.

Not a very surprising location.

Ronelli says:

Had wanted to stay away from a “desktop gui” as that implies KDE, Gnome, or some other big bloated thing.
I was looking at strictly “window managers” like xfce, fvwm, twm, enlightenment.

> Applications–>settings–>appearance–>fonts, which sets most fonts.

What is that in?
What actual knob is that menu item turning under the hood?
If it’s some X11 config/resource thing that’s a potential.

Jim says:

> What is that in?

It is the root menu in XFCE, equivalent to the windows start menu.

L says:

If using a a desktop environment like XFCE or Plasma, will be in display settings. If using a window manager like i3, Hyprland, etc, you will need to add the display scaling setting to the display section of your config file.

Ronelli says:

Guessing it’s down in the xserver somewhere.

Any WM that has such a knob is likely just fiddling the server’s knob for it, if I’m right.

Well, I don’t want/need a “desktop environment” or “graphical shell”, Win/Mac made it real easy to hate all that bloat now.

Might try wayland, it might be the future, carrying around less legacy ways to do things.

Not trying wayland yet, but if so, might try weston/sway/enlightenment/hyprland.

Am trying Xlibre/Xorg, so am trying twm/i3/e16, on a large 4K screen.

Reading more man pages now.

But still haven’t found the damn “Make all fonts/ornaments/buttons bigger in/across all apps/windows at once” knob.

Jim says:

Yes, but Omarchy is an opinionated linux, and I have different opinions.

The great advantage, and great disadvantage, of Linux in general and especially Arch most of all, is that everyone gets to have their own custom version of Linux.

Alf says:

Should’ve directed my comment towards Pax. Yes same, I prefer my customized setup with X/dwm over the omarchy setup. But for anyone looking for an easy alternative to windows, customizing my own setup took me weeks while setting up omarchy with caligula took me an hour.

L says:

IMO Omarchy is good for getting ideas for writing your own configs if you are new to tiling window managers / compositors and such, but I wouldn’t run it for anything serious. It’s a bunch of config files and bash scripts held together by duct tape, buggy and idiosyncratic.

I generally recommend Fedora with KDE plasma for beginners. Easy to install, stable, and great UX, better than MacOS or Windows. You can add Hyprland or Niri or whatever to it if you’d like as well. Gnome is crap.

For advanced Linux users, NixOS is the way to go.

Personally I use NixOS with the KDE userspace (or the Dolphin file manager), and the Niri Wayland compositor.

L says:

For example Omarchy installs some programs by piping a bash script from the internet into your shell (lol), instead of actually using the package manager.

And as Jim said, Omarchy is opinionated Linux and I have different opinions. It’s like going on a date with someone else’s wife, feels wrong.

TeGastab says:

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[*Comments on Bitcoin are sometimes capriciously allowed without requiring passage of the shill test in the moderation policy, but only if the commenter demonstrates actual understanding of crypto currency.*]

Jim says:

> For advanced Linux users, NixOS is the way to go.

NixOS is, like Ubuntu, a dead man walking.

Don’t use software maintained by people who have no interest in software and who want you dead.

L says:

I suppose you’re right, even if it’s fine now what’s stopping them from inserting vulnerabilities or attacks in the future.

I hope someone makes a based fork.

L says:

Interestingly, Anduril is now one of the main contributors to the Nix ecosystem, which has received a lot of pushback from the woke organization.

Maybe they’re being stupid, or maybe they know what they’re doing. Good chance they will produce a based fork.

Anon says:

I am increasingly don’t believe the “leftist take over of software” hypothesis .
I recently discovered that Linus Trovald was a commie and from commie family. He is a member of the world economic forum and talked a few time in it. See Lunduke.
Same with Jobs , Gates , Stallman, ESR etc etc.
All leftis and hippie in there days.
Reactionary think that only right build and left destroy but the history doesn’t show this.
The current software purges are simply left on left and has long history since 50s and 60s.
There are no genuine reactionary tech, except arguably moldbug and Jim if it take off.
It deluded to think that software was good in the past and now leftist are taking over and destroy it. No it was always leftist from the get go. Yes the old leftist was competent but they are leftist nonetheless.

Jim says:

> don’t believe the “leftist take over of software” hypothesis .

And Trump was a leftist. Obviously there was a takeover by the considerably lefter.

Jim says:

> There are no genuine reactionary tech

Bitcoin was reactionary, in that it was solidly anarcho capitalist and agorist.

The entire development of concise zero knowledge proofs was and is largely motivated by desire to solve the scaling and privacy problems of Bitcoin, which is an impressively reactionary motivation.

The Cominator says:

William Shockley was extremely racist about race and believed in hereditarianism in general so electronic hardware was invented by a guy who whatever his political views in other areas (and I don’t know what they were) were was not at all a consistent leftist.

L says:

There are genuinely based software projects:

– Sqlite (they use the The Rule of St. Benedict as a CoC)
– Bitcoin
– Monero
– Urbit
– Hyprland (Wayland compositor but the creator is a “transphobe”)
– Graphene OS
– Fdroid
– Radicle
– Tails
– GPG and GNU stuff in general

A lot of the classic software projects like GNU and Linux could’ve been considered leftist originally but now they are reactionary. Look at Linus’s communication style, and how he manages the devs.

Jim says:

Radicle is solidly reactionary, but it is being assimilated by Radworks which looks suspiciously like a leftist “embrace,extend,extinguish” project. On the other hand, radworks is supplying some serious funding, which is the only way stuff can get done. If no funding, no Radicle.

The trouble is that reactionary software not being substantially funded. Funding comes through foundations, foundations are operated by namefags, namefags catch heat, leftist strings get attached to reactionary projects.

We need an ecosystem that supports the corporate form based on names secured by private secrets, rather than government registration, and government registered entities tend to be unsympathetic to this project.

L says:

> Radicle is solidly reactionary, but it is being assimilated by Radworks which looks suspiciously like a leftist “embrace,extend,extinguish” project.

I’m curious what signs you look for. I see they have a standard gay CoC.

> We need an ecosystem that supports the corporate form based on names secured by private secrets, rather than government registration, and government registered entities tend to be unsympathetic to this project.

I got into the crypto currency industry because I want this, and I want to live in the cypherpunk future. But I’ve been disappointed recently. Seems all the jobs and money are at the casino, not in furthering cypherpunk goals.

I guess that’s what open source contributions are for. I’ve read all the design docs for your project and I like it, but I don’t have any C++ experience and haven’t really looked at your code.

Jim says:

> I’m curious what signs you look for. I see they have a standard gay CoC.

I did not bother to look at their CoC. What I saw was that they were constructing an arbitrary and artificial connection to Ethereum, which Radicle does not need because Radicle identity is rooted in the secret keys of the owners of each repo. And Ethereum is in the pockets of our enemies, for the reasons explained the Rho CoC

Whenever someone is doxed and goes namefag, suddenly he wants to connect to Ethereum.

This is what I was referring to as “Embrace, Extend, Extinguish”.

L says:

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Jamesthe1st says:

Linux distros are pretty user friendly on the software side, the problem is almost always hardware compatibility problems because the hardware company doesn’t want to provide the drivers for Linux. We need based manufacturers of hardware that make drivers for Linux.

L says:

True. When purchasing a machine to run Linux on, always consider hardware support.

Thinkpads generally have very good Linux hardware support, better than laptops designed for Linux such as those by System76.

I have a very powerful desktop machine with a 4090 in it, but Nvidia has terrible Linux support and it tooks hours of tinkering with my NixOS configs to pin an older version of the drivers that wasn’t completely broken.

Hopefully Valve and their Steam Deck and Steam Machine will improve this situation. The Steam Machine will provide a standardized platform with mass adoption and great hardware support, and may be a good entry point to Linux for many people.

Jim says:

Nixos is an antifa organisation that is more interested in murdering all straight white males, then all straights, whites, and males, than it is in producing usable software.

Anonymous says:

Not too deeply into Nix myself, but I found this article that describes how they got skinsuited starting in 2021.

https://chrismcdonough.substack.com/p/the-nixos-conflict-in-under-5-minutes

Jim says:

“Incidents of injustice to the marginalized committed by powerful people… Everyone else just assumed everyone else had a legitimate beef and fought bravely on their behalf, too drunk on their own righteousness to check for receipts.

Once the dividers have achieved perfect control, they’ll do whatever inscrutable thing they want with the ruined shell of what used to be a thriving community for a while, with them at the helm, until they get bored. Eventually, Nix/NixOS forks will appear, and those forks will begin to rebuild actual open source software development communities, hopefully with better immune responses, but probably not. The dividers will always be circling, waiting to end us, advertising themselves as our redemption.”

L says:

I thought I already passed the moderation shill test on this email but I see my other comment was deleted. I’m happy to do it again if you’d like.

I don’t know much about the Nix organization but yes I have heard stuff like that and I don’t like it.

Regardless, Nix is great tech. Being able to declaratively configure your OS, packages, and settings is fantastic. It’s like moving to terraform from manually sshing and writing config files.

Jim says:

Yes you had, but under a different user name. White listing now.

L says:

Thanks

A2 says:

Interesting article, as well as those around it. Basically Thermidor weakly protesting while being sent to the guillotine by the revolution.

Jim says:

> Basically Thermidor weakly protesting while being sent to the guillotine by the revolution.

Yes, buying into the frame of their enemies, and perpetually surprised that accepting the frame of those that hate them and intend to destroy them does not buy them salvation.

A2 says:

Strong, best-practice and newbie-usable crypto support could be a killer feature.

Pax Imperialis says:

Packaged for free with Starlink. It would be a gateway money maker.

SporkInnit says:

> Starlink

Only if you convince them to start accepting crypto to open fully prepaid accounts, including all hardware delivered prepaid to a specified address, and including 1 year of prepaid satellite service, no fucking phone number needed.

Cloudswrest says:

Starlink geolocates on your ground station terminal. They’re basically “cell towers” in the sky.

SporkInnit says:

I’m aware of that, same for fiber/copper, even fixed wifi.

Point is, delivery address in same town is fine, but it’s prepaid with crypto with no ID, so could have already changed hands from the buyer, and prepaid yearly crypto refills are anonymous, and with no ID, your traffic is not hard linked to your real-ID, and you can also send all traffic through the satellite and then out over a VPN too.
Point is you’re making it much harder and ambiguous to pin the encrypted traffic to a physical person. At best all they have is a location, not the user.
Only a moron would think satcom can’t triangulate your fixed dish to a 10m box.
Point is, you’re not doing internet-crimes, which starlink can tap or shutdown or report, all you’re doing is surfing the web in peace as a random pseudonym known as your PHYSICAL SATCOM MAC.
Which is a fine improvement over just fucking giving them your
1) credit card with full matching govt name/dob/id-number
2) exact physical address
3) phone number
4) email

its worth starting an online campaign to make crypto prepaid sat a reality.

musk already takes crypto for tesla’s, and does bitcoin and doge for fucks sake, so get him to do crypto sats too.

LastXP says:

Not going to say FreeBSD is cake for dummies, but once you understand it it’s the shit.[*deleted for not conforming to the moderation policy*]

Jim says:

Install FreeBSD on any laptop, and no end of stuff, like wifi, bluetooth, and hibernation when you close the laptop, just does not work. Linux has problems with NVIDIA and Arc, but FreeBSD has problems with just about everything.

FreeBSD runs a server fine. On a desktop, stuff just is not going to work.

Tuokan says:

There is no blanket here that does not also apply to Linux similarly.

Jim says:

I am typing this on the very latest Intel laptop, and everything works, though I had to hunt down a couple of hardware support packages that should have been in the repo and should have been automatically installed by the installer, but were not.

You are not going to get everything working if you try to install FreeBSD on the very latest intel laptop.

Anon says:

What about Mac ? It pricey but you can get used one with decent price.
Mac until now avoided the bloat, probably because job philosophy of walled garden .

Pax Imperialis says:

Mac is a far too idiot proof it makes it a pain in the ass for more specialized use. Microsoft used to be the right amount of idiot proof without sacrificing too much tinkering. Unfortunately, they went too far idiot proofing on top of making their OS one giant data collecting Ad. It pissed me off when they required internet connection to install windows, then the next update attempted to disable the work around.

Pax Imperialis says:

Thanks for all the replies. Learned a lot on where to look. Still stuck on this question.

>>With his brand recognition, would be easy to move into that space and take market share
>>why hasn’t anyone among the tech elites done this?

>Been done, many times. Debian trixie, and the latest arch install.

Yes, but besides the question on why not commercialize.

No one has tried to take market share from Microsoft. It’s obvious the tools are all there for creating a much better product, but bringing it to market hasn’t happened, despite there being a number of tech bros well positioned to do so. Just using Musk as an example, I found out Tesla uses a specialized Linux distro, so clearly Musk has the people to make an OS for general computing. He could integrate it with StarLink for free and use that to get people into his business ecosystem. From there entice them into an office suite, a crypto suite, etc. Oh, DOD wants to use StarLink, wedge in his distro usage into the agreement. So many angles of attack here.

I can only suspect Microsoft has a shit ton of anticompetitive practices with firmware/hardware companies to keep out upstarts.

The Gasman says:

The Nazis I know are generally ambivalent about the donbas, or lowkey side with russia. There’s a few outspoken xoxol stans but the idea that everyone who thinks Hitler was breddy right is some kind of NAFO-Atlanticist toadie is grossly mistaken.

Jim says:

> the idea that everyone who thinks Hitler was breddy right is some kind of NAFO-Atlanticist toadie is grossly mistaken.

There is a widespread reluctance among National Socialists to say certain things, or to notice anyone else saying those things.

They can rant about the bad stuff the Roschilds got up to long ago, but the Rothschilds were severely knackered during the 1930s, and really have not done much particularly obnoxious since. Today’s unironic National Socialists seem to have strange difficulty noticing the bad stuff Soros has been up to. Or the bad stuff USAID has been up to.

If you are really pissed by all the bad stuff non whites have been up to in the US, should not you notice that they have been empowered by Soros prosecutors?

The Gasman says:

Yes, Soros and his co ethnics have a long history of unleashing communist terror and emptying the prisons onto the kulaks, or whites, or sometimes just people whose stuff they want. No one is surprised when a beaver exhibits dam building behavior

The Cominator says:

I’m pretty blackpilled Trump has been fucking up left and right since the Kirk assassination the way he did during covid when he bought into the lie and then was not forceful and radical enough in course correcting, hes in his 80s hes probably not what he once was mentally. Our only hope is that when the Democrats retake power the left goes into brutal infighting almost immediately to the point where other than top Trump people (who should really flee the country before the next Democrat president is in office) they are almost entirely focused on turning state power and quasi state sponsored violence on each other.

Jim says:

> Trump has been fucking up left and right since the Kirk assassination

Indeed he has. Plus Maga is fighting itself. Maga has lost unity and cohesion. But on the other hand, his national security strategy is great stuff. The question is whether he and his cabinet actually has the balls to give effect to it.

What we are seeing is Thermidor panicking and chickening out upon seeing the shit get real. They want 2014 normal back, and no one can deliver.

The Cominator says:

His national security strategy better involve a sudden state of emergency + suspension of habeas corpus etc Pax has not indicated that every non MAGA officer has been kicked out of the army/marines. His enemies were able to get the majority of the Indiana republican state senators to turn against him we’re so fucking dead if we keep going on our present course.

Pax Imperialis says:

Saw a massive change at the top and it’s trickling down. Culture is downstream of power is extremely true in the military where there is formalized hierarchy. The problem now is largely stemming from retired/fired (woke) military who still wield a great deal of influence out of residual respect for rank and service. Trump needs to work on limiting their influence. Hard for the top General to maintain a common ethos on warfighting when the “legendary” “mad dog Mattis” comes in and directly undermines him.

Current top General be like: ‘your duty is to presume legality of orders’
Various retired Generals be like: ‘Nuremberg demonstrates following orders is no excuse’

Just the fact the retired Generals are allowed to say these things give them status they would not otherwise have.

Humungus says:

> “…Our only hope is that when the Democrats…etc”

Hope is not a winning strategy and gives too much to chance.

We must face facts and plan for the eventual and inevitable outcome. The present system is coming to a close. In order to survive, we will have to break off into multiple tribal governments each with an independent leader. This aligns with man’s natural state.

The major problem with all large government bodies is disinterested bureaucracy and leadership corruption. Tribal government solves this because if the leader fails to act, he is quickly replaced.

Contaminated NEET says:

Mad Max was a movie. The Russian Revolution was history. Anarchonomicon has it right: https://www.anarchonomicon.com/p/realistic-prepper-advice; this is just a comforting fantasy. You’re not going carve your own destiny in a lawless land with a sawed-off shotgun and a classic motorcycle; you’re going to be tried and shot for hoarding by a smirking aparatchik with a gender studies degree.

Humungus says:

Thank you for your reply. I looked at the link provided, written by Kulak, a female.

The female lists vehicle as secondary need. It is primary, then provisions, then weapons.

For the first 24 hours you must be able to egress from your present location to an open area that you can see the enemy come from.

You already live under a hostile government. Tribalism is your only available option.

Contaminated NEET says:

1) There is no way Kulak is a girl. He claims to be, to get more views and subs, and to sell dirty pics of some whore he hired to pretend to be him, but he is 100% a dude. If he were a female, he wouldn’t use a fake girly AI voice.

2) In fairness, you’re not all that far off from his astute predictions and recommendations. Kulak claims organized crime is the best model for survival and resistance, and organized crime is certainly a tribal endeavor. The big sticking point is, he correctly foresees that there is always going to be a central authority. It’s going to hostile, evil, and completely insane, but it’s still going to be there and it’s still going to be in control of its territory and the people in it. A thousand tribal kings contending over the wasteland is a fantasy, or at best, a very short interlude, like the Russian Civil War. Big Brother is still going to be around, and the problem is not marshaling your motor legions to pillage the savage future, but rather staying out of the government’s eye and beneath its notice, while still somehow being wealthy and fertile.

Humungus says:

“…the problem is not marshaling your motor legions to pillage the savage future, but rather staying out of the government’s eye and beneath its notice, while still somehow being wealthy and fertile.”

Yes… We shall see. My solution is wait my enemy out.

Jim says:

> there is always going to be a central authority. It’s going to hostile, evil, and completely insane, but it’s still going to be there and it’s still going to be in control of its territory and the people in it.

Is it going to be in control?

The need to disobey ever more intrusive laws becomes ever more urgent, and the government’s capacity to enforce ever more laws that are ever more intrusive continues to decrease.

Every Ukrainian male who said to himself, “well the government is in control, so I am just going to have to obey”, is now dead or very soon will be.

I have somehow managed to get away with no end of illegal acts, some of them violent. The urgent need to perform illegal acts continues to increase, and the government’s effectiveness in catching people who perform illegal acts continues to decrease.

If we look at the fall of Rome, it was not primarily a few spectacular events, it was primarily a day to day decrease in order. And the first Max Movie is set in such a world. The government and its institutions still exist in the first Mad Max movie, sort of, and still controls stuff, sort of, but everything is falling apart. It is not nukes, nor peak oil, nor an asteroid impact. It is not even war, it is bureaucrats who don’t care and institutions that don’t work. The scenario at the beginning of the first Mad Max movie is today’s California. It is the late Western Roman Empire.

The first Mad Max story line starts off with the government existing and functioning, functioning somewhat poorly, and people paying attention to its existence, caring about its existence. And as the movie proceeds, the government does not fall or anything, it is just that it functions less and less and people care less and less about its alleged continuing existence.

The government in the Mad Max movies does not suddenly disappear in a nuclear strike. It slowly fades away in bureaucrats not doing their jobs.

Surviving in the Ukraine starts in running away, but is slowly and increasingly becoming resistance, resistance that is still somewhat furtive, but becoming less furtive.

Contaminated NEET says:

You’re absolutely right. The authority is insane and evil, obedience it is suicide, and evasion is doable. But that doesn’t mean a bandit army of motocycling madmen nor a Constitutional militia of fed-up free patriots are anything other than daydreams and copes. The successful paradigm will be the Mafia, or at best, the IRA. Anyone who wants to see the other side of this has got to be a stainless steel rat.

Alf says:

Why not (Christian) militias.

Obviously there shouldn’t be a ‘motorcycle-riding guns-blazing cross-waving’ spectacle. The trick is to be a step or two ahead of the zeitgeist, but not so far ahead that you catch the attention of the eye of Sauron. Tricky, but doable. Just look at the amount of law-breaking already going on. Everyone is breaking the law daily, whether it is regarding taxes, building permits, accounting, declaring themselves sovereign, whatever. Sauron’s eye is already struggling with some serious epilepsy, won’t get any better.

Jim says:

> the problem is not marshaling your motor legions to pillage the savage future, but rather staying out of the government’s eye and beneath its notice,

True — but the one is apt to fade into the other.

The Mad Max movies do not present a consistent universe and history, but are rather imagined as legends of the fall of the previous civilisation dimly remembered during the beginnings of the next. There is no theory or explanation of what caused the previous civilisation to fall — in the first movie, we get the ant’s eye view of the fall. No one knows why things are falling apart, and no one is fully aware of how far things have already fallen apart.

During the fall of the Roman Empire in the West, no one was aware of what was happening, or realised what had already happened. And you, Contaminated Neet, are unaware of what is happening and what has already happened.

The Roman Empire in the East, Byzantium, last considerably longer because an emperor made a conscious decision to shift to radically simpler forms of governance, so presumably he had some idea of what was up, but we have nothing from that time that reflects such understanding.

The Holy Roman Empire was Charles the Hammer consciously implementing simple forms of governance, in a world where the older forms had already long since quietly evaporated without anyone quite realising that they were long gone.

The Cominator says:

Marcian is one of the most underrated figures of history.

Jim says:

> Mad Max was a movie. The Russian Revolution was history

The Russian revolution was five years of Mad Max conditions, and the communists did not win with gender studies graduates.

The Cominator says:

Mad Max was the anarchy of the steppe nomads.

The Russian revolution was I think more like Gotham in the Dark Knight Rises, a weird combination of both total anarchy and total tyranny. We are all familiar with anarcho tyranny but not to the degree the Russian revolution was anarcho tyrannical especially in the early years.

Contaminated NEET says:

>the communists did not win with gender studies graduates.

They absolutely did. They may not have literally been gender studies experts, but they were exactly the same kind of self-righteous, effeminate, noodle-armed, intellectual dweebs. You think the they/thems can’t kill? Maybe aren’t the best for filling out the ranks and files, but can certainly tell the troops what to do and whom to kill. Which they did. And do today. They’re no slouches at violence on the individual or micro scales, either – ask Charlie Kirk about that. Hell, in the last five years, a single-digit handful of Zizians have done more political murders than the entire American right wing.

The Cominator says:

There were certain effeminate sexually perverted unmasculine coffee house faggots among the Bolsheviks, but there were also masculine criminal types (like Stalin) and minority activist types (not like darkies as in non Russia minorities, minority activist types sometimes have surprisingly high testerone) among them too. If they only had the gender studies graduates even with all of Woodrow Wilson’s (may he be tortured forever or at least a trillion years) help they probably would not have won.

Contaminated NEET says:

Sure, but it was the coffeehouse faggots and quibbling Jews who were decisive. It was their staggeringly successful memetic victory that brought the more masculine types into their party to fight for their</i) side. And then it was their ruthlessness and leadership that won the war.

Jim says:

> it was the coffeehouse faggots and quibbling Jews who were decisive.

Stalin and Lenin won the war. They were not coffee house faggots and quibbling Jews. The Mensheviks were coffee house faggots and quibbling Jews. And Stalin and Lenin won the war for themselves and offed the Mensheviks.

Obviously Stalin and Lenin were products of a social environment created by coffeehouse faggots and quibbling Jews. Their victory was made possible by coffeehouse faggots and quibbling Jews. But the coffeehouse faggots and quibbling Jews were destroyed by what they unleashed.

As the left gets ever lefter, its leadership will inevitably fall into the hands of the seriously violent. But effective violence is manly violence. The most violent left factions are Zizians, young Turks, Hasan Piker, and the like. Unmanly violence. The modern left is maniacally hostile to masculinity, which diminishes the risk of leadership falling into the hands of someone like Lenin.

Hasan Piker got into drama because he was using a dog wearing a shock collar as a prop to make himself seem manly. He used the shock collar for force the dog to hang out quietly in his presence. Dogs, and to a lesser extent cats, like to hang out quietly near an alpha male, so having a dog hanging out quietly in the background of your video makes you look alpha. But he had to force the dog to hang out quietly.

The Cominator says:

The coffee house faggots stormed the winter palace but it was mostly the minority activist types who won the war (Latvian riflemen).

The Cominator says:

Trotsky and Lenin were kind of coffeehouse faggots to be fair and definitely involved in winning the war. Stalin most definitely was not.

Jim says:

Trotsky, yes, a coffee house faggot. But Trotsky’s role in winning the civil war has been much exaggerated by the Trotskyists and anti Stalinists, while Stalin’s role was absolutely central and critical. Stalin always headed off directly to the action.

The Cominator says:

We definitely hope leftist Caesar is not Hasan Piker. That would be Pol Pot and the Seven Kill Stele. The guy enjoys torturing his dog (I’m not opposed to shock collars to keep a dog from acting obnoxiously if the alternatives are worse mind you, but its cruel to use a shock collar to make a dog sit there and not drink water for 4 hours) and the extreme bloodlust is always apparent even on casual views.

Cenk Ungyur (I suppose I should stop calling him Chunk Yogurt if this is a possibility) would probably be alright since there are always currents of the thoughts of a sane and rational person beneath the surface and I don’t get the sense that he hates mankind and some of his complaints about the current system are even correct, its just its mixed with a lot of bad and wrong ideology too… I know I’m posting too much lately but recent events have upset me ala the way I was upset during covid.

Frater Lupus says:

Kulak is damn right that the best survival tactic is leaving early enough. Anyone who reads enough reports of historical collapses reaches the same conclusion. Eg, how many Ukrainians have lost their lives for not leaving on a tourist visa while everyone else was wondering if Putin was bluffing or not. Just a passport in your pocket and, ideally, a crypto wallet passphrase in your head.

Even if you can’t leave, a tactical retreat is better than pig-headed resistance. I have a wife, children and a garden. I live in the typical euro vassal country full of muslims. I deliberately chose to settle in a region where there are rather few of them. If mass migration goes on, there will eventually be a muzzie chimpout that will easily take at least a third of the country, where they are young and many. Where I live, I expect it to be like the reports of the Syrian Coast massacres: young muslim terror squads in technicals going home to home rounding up people and killing all males. Succeeded in Syria because, even days into the massacre, people remained at home hoping it wouldn’t happen in their village. To survive, evacuate early with your family to the nearby fields until they are gone. If you want to offer resistance, snipe the bastards from the fields, not from your house.

I’ve been contemplating writing something like “The Defense of Duffer’s Drift” for the big muzzie chimpout. First dream, normality bias, they call to my house, shoot me and my son, better not to dwell on what happens to my wife and daughter. Second dream, I am “prepared”, make my house a fort, it becomes a bullet magnet, fire, etc, death. Third dream, be prepared, evacuate family to the fields, snipe the bastards from a high point outside, perhaps get killed or stalemate. Still thinking about fourth dream: build community? Migrate to Latin America well before? Don’t really know.

Shill test (I’ll try my own version): There are very few to no free women. A woman has either a father, a husband or a pimp. Ideally, woman ownership passes from father to husband. Today, most “free” women are just pimped by the state. Given that, shouldn’t we leave women at least choose their master? We can’t because, due to their instincts, they choose to waste their fertile years going after mr. one-in-thirty, anyone else being invisible to them. Females must be given little to no choice. Being a female with a pimp must equal bottom social status. Homosexuals must be outlawed: they destroy male cooperation. Further, they corrupt male-female relations, as with modern “relationships”, which de facto is just a for-pleasure, sterile marriage, i.e. faggot marriage. Soros first came to my attention when I was very young and he played his game with the British pound. It made me wonder why the British didn’t send a spook to get rid of him; back then, Britain still was a power to be respected. I mean, the French bombed the Rainbow Warrior for much less than that. After many years, Jim showed me the obvious: Soros is just a tool of people powerful enough that the British wouldn’t dare retaliate. If I understood it well, that means the US Department of State. Many of other Soros dirty tricks, so profitable to him, seem to derive from him being a tool to bigger players. The old bastard has been a tool all his life, if what I’ve heard about his exploits in death camps is true. Many jews seem to be like that, white gloved gypsies. BTW, nazis suck, the proof being that their existence and ideology is openly acknowledged and discussed by the left. If nazi ideology was dangerous to the left, it would be inconceivable, being beyond the event horizon of crimethought. The left reduces evil to nazis, because nazism is the evil they want to acknowledge and fight. Anti-left, (darkly) unenlightened people who fall into nazism are playing the left’s game.
There. Maybe not too jimian orthodox, but I hope it’s crimethought enough.

The Cominator says:

I have to largely agree with contanimated neet on this. People who have been civilized for centuries don’t collapse all the way to permanent tribal barbarism no matter how bad things get. Italy was ruled by tribal barbarians after the Empire in the West collapsed but the Romans/Italians themselves just never reverted to being that themselves. China while it sort of had regional warlords at various points never collapsed into a tribal society. The closest any place in Italy ever got to that was Sicily (which constantly changed hands between different conquerors and it was a slave plantation mostly even under Rome) with its rural mafia chieftains.

The Cominator says:

https://x.com/FoxNews/status/1999781376665469063
Totally done with Trump hes shot himself in the head and hes going to lose its like watching him sign off on covid lockdowns all over again its been literally nothing but fuckups and cuckery since the Kirk assassination. I hope the left does his whole family fuck him.

The Cominator says:

Vance should publically break with Trump at this point and perhaps try to organize a 25th amendment of him perhaps on the grounds of mental incompetence due to extreme old age. I’m not sure whats going on but we’d be better off if he was replaced immediately. Trump recent series of fuckups and the lack of course correction are inexcusable.

Adam says:

I agree. Plan trusting has never worked and it is not working now. Trump is a boomer and will never break the law to save his people.

Someone else needs to take over MAGA and move us into the long distance swimming lesson phase.

Alf says:

When Trump was inaugurated for the second time, I remember looking at the attendees and being struck by how ‘hip’ they were. He invited guys like Jake & Logan Paul, Conor McGregor, Theo Von, Joe Rogan… ‘Popular’ guys.

Trump has always been a sucker for that kind of thing. He likes being popular, he likes being around popular guys. Perhaps that’s why Charlie Kirk turned out to be so essential — a popular guy, but also an intellectual. Not the hyperbased dark enlightenment intellectual, but at the very least unapologetically Christian. And Kirk drew crowds!

Contrast with us, we are anonymous keyboard warriors purposely hiding our identity. I suspect Trump never understood that kind of thing and instinctively classified that as weakness and loserdom. Why associate with people that hide?

But of course the assassination of Charlie Kirk once again validated our reasons for anonymity, as well as take away one of the very few popular intellectuals Trump was fond of. Perhaps that assassination was a similar killshot of the right as the dismantling of USAID was to the left. What’s left of the public right intellectual movement at this point? 40% grift, 40% backstabbing, 20% actual cooperation? A sad state of affairs.

Whoever follows in Trump’s footsteps would be wise to learn from his mistakes. Not all that glitters is gold. Sometimes in order to win, one must take unpopular steps. And sometimes the right ideas come from the most unconventional of places.

The Cominator says:

You’re making it too complicated Trump is in fact a very old man. Most people in their 80s aren’t all there mentally.

Alf says:

Heh maybe that’s all there is to it then.

The Cominator says:

This was why I thought for a time it was best to support DeSantis in the primary… Trump seemed to keep proving me wrong for a long time after that but now he seems to be proving me right.

Jim says:

Charlie Kirk was the glue holding together a coalition of actual Christians, Judeo Christians, and post Christians. When he was murdered the wheels came off the bus.

With him murdered, the old disequilibrium of no friends to the right, no enemies to the left, has reasserted itself. As we saw in Indiana, we have a Republican party that can punch right but is unable to punch left, even while they are being punched from their left.

i says:

@Jim

Divine Providence deemed Trump critical. Because by sheer coincidence when he looked at the stats for immigration that was shown to him. The bullet narrowly missed his brain. Piercing his ear.

Charlie on the other hand is a substantial loss but not a critical dead end if he died.

The current situation is still be within acceptable parameters.

Jim says:

While Charlie Kirk was an enormous loss, his murder and the reaction of the left to his murder revealed we can never let the left regain control of the instrument of coercion, and if we do, we will perish as Europe is perishing.

Charlie Kirk was a prophet of God who was holding together Thermidor and Maga, and holding together post Christian Thermidoreans, Judeo Christians, and actual Christians. But this alliance is doomed to fail, even though we absolutely need it to hold together long enough to defeat the left. Or we will all hang separately.

Democracy is the final state of a dying Republic. The stakes inevitably get higher and higher, until losing is existential, in which case the losing side in unlikely to accept the outcome of the vote. The outcome has now become existential, though due to normality bias, most people do not recognise this.

If, like Sulla, we proceed with moderate reforms, the first useful step away from the brink would be to disenfranchise women. However, while moving leftwards in tiny steps, slow boiling the frog, has an immense record of success for the left, it has a piss poor record of success for the right. Before Sulla’s reforms, the Republic was decadent. After his reforms, still decadent.

i says:

While his death should have made it clear as a warning. Normalcy bias doesn’t seem to have gone away. Or it eroded away quicker than it would have.

Especially with reactions afterwards. With especially the GOP doing their usual containment shenanigans and deliberately doing everything they can to enable the killing sprees to proceed without opposition.

Always were the enemy. They had to be bullied by Trump to make any concession to those they represent at all.

Hesiod says:

Your link is Fox News reporting on what another MSM outlet reported. Needs more micturated beds in Moscow.

Neurotoxin says:

Cominator, what’s the issue with the Fox headline at X? It says “DHS to focus on arresting illegal immigrants with serious offenses,” which is what they’ve been doing since day one. This isn’t news or a change in policy.

The Cominator says:

Ie they are calling off any mass raids on illegals just for being here illegally to only focus on criminals.

Milosevic says:

Pet Mahometans have shot up Bondi Beach.

The Cominator says:

This wrecks the very delicate truce we’ve had with the Mahotmeans against the left, probably by design…

c4ssidy says:

I was more surprised by the young people social media ban. It seems overall very coordinated among Five Eyes. Supposedly 4chan hasn’t been paying the UK fine, and is only a day or so until we see if the UK escalates into blocking 4chan.

I’ve been wrong about slippery slopes before, but it still seems like the step towards digital ID and a true dead internet (only AI infested echo chambers allowed, authentic interactions nuked, etc, probably in the context of mass-conscription and border closures) is in the reach of just a handful of years

Jim says:

Yes, the social media ban is clearly a plan for a censorship regime in which the only voices one can hear are completely on board with conscription to certain death.

It is often said of the Greatest Ukrainian Counter Offensive that they never reached the first line of defence. But it is worse than that, far worse. They did reach the first line of the defense, and they did get through it to start attacking towards the next line of defence. But a mighty torrent of tanks, armoured personnel carriers, and men, were sent towards the first line of defence, and a few handfuls of exhausted and terrified men on foot stumbled through it.

This would seem to imply that the offensive did not stop because the going was too tough and the losses too great. It stopped because everyone died.

Karl says:

Cominator, why do you think so? Mohammedans killing jews. Not my people, not my problem.

Whether they do it in Bondi Beach or anywhere else, why should we care?

The Cominator says:

I honestly didn’t know about the Jew thing at all until mentioned here I just heard that one of the cult of peace people was shooting people in Australia on a beach. Did the messenger of peace know that he was bringing peace specifically to jews or was it a generalized attack on Qaffrs and Infidels.

Jim says:

Yes, the messenger of peace was specifically targeting Jews who were being irritatingly and distinctively Jewish.

Muslims being Muslim were going after Jews being Jewish.

Contaminated NEET says:

A pox on both their houses.

Contaminated NEET says:

Also, during this difficult time, I’d like remind the Jewish community that we grieve with them, and they must be very careful not to compound this tragedy with further injustice by stereotyping or blaming our overwhelmingly law-abiding and productive Muslim friends and neighbors, who deplore this heinous act as much or more than they do.

Jim says:

🙃

A2 says:

More precisely, they shot up a jewish celebration.

“British-born rabbi among 11 killed in Bondi, as police investigate attack on Jewish community”

… A police vehicle passes within the first 22 seconds of the video, and there are sirens sounding throughout, but after two minutes, witnesses can be heard shouting ‘Where are the cops?’

It’s more than four minutes into the video before incoming shots targeting the attackers strike the bridge. …

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/ckgk391yzm7t

When seconds count, the police are just minutes away.

Rehan says:

One witness said four armed cops did nothing for 10 minutes.

If I was armed, they’d be dead.
And I would be put in prison for life by the Left for Racial/Religious Motivated Hate Crime.

TheDividualist says:

Dear Jim, dear Gentlemen,

I have had some life experiences who do not line up well with how the WQ is discussed here. Let’s discuss. I used to be married, and I know both her boyfriend from before the marriage and the other one now after. Both men are submissive, they are natural servants who love to feel useful, love to serve. Their body language is *bowing*. She is apparently into this, being bossy to guys who like that.
And I think the reason she and me were fighting a lot is that we are both dominant personalities: we both utter judgements, not opinions, usually. And that is a recipe for clashes.

Now the standard RedPill story would be that she is not fucking these beta orbiters, just using them as servants and fucking someone else. But look, she spends one night per week in his house. With the previous guy, they were working on a ship and sleeping in the same cabin every night. Surely in these cases sex happens. Maybe she is fucking someone else, someone alpha on the side, I don’t know. But I don’t think she isn’t or wasn’t fucking them, too. Does not sound like a deadbedroom story.

Also the standard RedPill story would be that if she has a real strong personality, then she needs a man with extreme levels of dominant energy, and I did not measure up to that. Maybe. But she just keeps finding these submissives… never seen her around with someone more dominant than me.

Truth be told, dominant confidence needs to be combined with competence. I am an absent-minded professor type, competent in abstract thinking but no practical sense, I cannot plan a weekend trip without a fuckup like not checking the weather forecast.

So yes I have judgements, not opinions. And then these judgements keep being all WRONG when it is about practical matters. What then?

She wasn’t even ever shit-testing me! Like every time she challenged my judgement, it turned out her way is actually more practical.

After the marriage I got into BDSM in a non-gay way, and the Masters mentoring me taught me the same thing Jim sometimes mentions: husbands as bosses should not micromanage wives, but delegate a lot of practical decisions to them. But to delegate ALL? To delegate all is to give up being the head of the household. What decisions should a husband keep? Strategic decisions?

@Alf and @Karl know, we in Europe are all submissives to the state, so the strategic decisions do not happen. We do not make decisions about healthcare plans, retirement plans or how much to spend on what school. The state makes these decisions, paid from our taxes, and our after-tax income is like pocket money for children, to be spent on candy, no serious strategic decisions needed, everything serious is taken care of. We can afford to not work a year and get enough money (BACK!) from the state. We also do not make career decisions, as our degrees are treated as destiny – no career changes really possible. “Cobbler, stick to your last.” as the old proverb says. Building equity? We are not paid enough, we live in rented or half-rented (co-op) condos. And so on. We are so utterly enslaved and enchildened by the state! (same thing actually, a slave is defined as an adult who is treated as a child).

So we do not get to make those kinds of strategic decisions, of the kind an abstract-thinker like me would be good at.

So we can make practical everyday judgements, decisions. And I suck at that! But if I delegate all those, where is my headship of the family?

Or is this dominance should be all bluffing, not backed up by competence? Like, if I do not feel competent to plan a weekend family trip, I just tell her to do so, delegate the job, and when she did it I praise her for being a good girl and having made a great plan (I have no actual idea how great the plan is), so she feels like I am boss, but it is all fake, because she was the one truly making the decision?

Or the abstract-minded professor types are not suited to be marry, plain simply?

One basic disagreement with Jim and me is that I understand why Catholicism has monks and unmarried priests, this is all a refugee to the absent-minded professor types I am, who are not well suited for being heads of families due to not being practical. In the Protestant world, where do these men go, what do they do? Most likely they will be unmarried, too, or divorced, but unlike the monks they cannot pretend it is all “holy chastity totally freely chosen bro”, but it is clearly a failure.

TheDividualist says:

Or is my causality backwards? If I would have grown up in a society where I am assured a wife at 21-25 (I married at 35), who WILL see me as the decision-maker, and this will be my responsibility, my parents would have ensured I learn to be practical? My parents only ever cared about my school grades, computer and English as a second language skills, because they knew that is where money is, and they thought money is all that matters. They never told me anything about, I don’t know, household repairs. Just study, so you get money, and others will do it for you.

Beow says:

You sound like you aren’t doing your squats and deadlifts

TheDividualist says:

No, not interested at all in that kind of pack mule exercise. It is a strange cult. why lower body? arms and shoulders make a manly look. and how is it relevant? you think squats change personality?

Beow says:

Yes they do and being actually strong does too. Lifting for appearance and just training your arms doesn’t make you strong and usually doesn’t make you look strong either. There is not a lot in the world to improve your appearance or manliness better than a heavy deadlift. Many words gave better written about this, here is one example:
https://www.oldtimestrongman.com/articles/the-iron-by-henry-rollins/

The Iron never lies to you. You can walk outside and listen to all kinds of talk, get told that you’re a god or a total bastard. The Iron will always kick you the real deal. The Iron is the great reference point, the all-knowing perspective giver. Always there like a beacon in the pitch black. I have found the Iron to be my greatest friend. It never freaks out on me, never runs. Friends may come and go. But two hundred pounds is always two hundred pounds

The Cominator says:

There is absolutely a social use to monasteries and this is a thing Luther erred on but he was 100% right about celibate priests.

Jehu says:

Yes there is a lane for celibate mystics and monks in Christianity, but they need to stay in it. They need to stay out of the pastor->bishop->cardinal->pope lane.

The Cominator says:

Those who seek union with the divine should not sully themselves with the dirty earthly business of politics.

A2 says:

“Like, if I do not feel competent to plan a weekend family trip, I just tell her to do so, delegate the job, and when she did it I praise her for being a good girl and having made a great plan (I have no actual idea how great the plan is), so she feels like I am boss, but it is all fake, because she was the one truly making the decision?”

If you don’t care about the task, well, there you are. Perhaps ask yourself whether you should care. If you feel like you would like to make the decision, something should change. Learn more about planning such events, or plan it with her (which she probably will enjoy). At least learn enough to make some intelligent questions about her plan. In short, make sure it’s a good, competent plan.

It’s much like being a manager in office life. Note that micromanagement is not always a good idea. A too loose style might not work well either.

Tejano Bob says:

Wait, bad weather ruins vacations? Did someone bring a bikini to a blizzard?

Lights cigar, “I love it when a plan comes together.”

I don’t check weather because it hasn’t killed me. Even hurricanes.

Rehan says:

Hail Douchebags

Your problem is
1) She’s not in the picture anymore, so eject that tape and move on.
2) You need to decide if you want to be whatever type of monk suits you, or if you want pussy and all that comes with it, and then even family.
3) In Euroland there are plenty of submissive women fantasizing about BDSM, so either peel one off the group, or post your own ad for exploratory training. Of if you’re a sub, post an ad looking to get pegged and used.
4) Or, move the fuck out of the the SocCom Eurolandia, to someplace where you have to work, and where the male-female dynamic more suits you. Russia, a few Euro-type countries, China, Hispanic, are the only places left for White Men, maybe Australian outback too.
5) Or post on dating sites seeking a non-brutalitarian woman, a Protestant, an impreg fetish, homemaker, flower girl, bookworm, scientist, whatever.

Jim says:

You should delegate but supervise and prioritise. She should run stuff past you for approval. Sometimes you demand other options be considered. Sometimes you just reject what she has planned.

There is always too much to be managed. Somethings get neglected or delayed. You should set priorities.

You say your observation contradicts my observation. But you are divorced while I am widowed and remarried to a woman much younger than myself. Maybe you are not seeing what you think you are seeing. Your supposed data comes from just one woman. Woman are masters of deception, who start by deceiving themselves. Doubtless she is deceiving herself that she is strong, empowered, etcetera, and likes it that way.

Obviously what you are doing is not working for you, and what she is doing is not working for her, so data from this interaction may be misleading.

Alf says:

I have had some life experiences who do not line up well with how the WQ is discussed here. Let’s discuss.

I trust your observations on women about as much as I trust Kip’s observations on martial arts. You tell us you are ‘too dominant’, but every post you write comes across weak.

Maybe you think that’s mean, but I remember when your marriage was still alive yet obviously headed downhill. You got plenty of advice, including: stop drinking, raise your testosterone levels, spend more time with your wife and kid. Instead, you got into BDSM. The ‘non-gay kind’, lmao. And now you come tell us the WQ doesn’t match up with your experiences? Get outta here.

Div, you suffer from a heavy case of gnosticism. But everytime you handle a whip or reach for a bottle, rest assured that they are very real.

TheDividualist says:

I said I am dominant, not strong. That means I have judgements, not opinions. It does not mean I like to do hard things. I am bossy, but still do not like hard things. Not the same thing.

Jim says:

Are you dominant?

You are having an argument with your wife — the argument is not pointless — the two of you have a practical need to know the truth, and know it soon. Your wife tells you she is right — and tells it again louder. She could very easily check, and either prove to you she is right or discover she is wrong. You tell her to check. She tells you she is right. You tell her to check again. She tells you, louder, she is right, again.

At that point do you give her a spanking?

TheDividualist says:

It was more like “did you think of this?” “um I did not…”

Beow says:

What if you spank her and it turns out she was correct
I mean I understand it’s not about that but that would kind of suck

Jim says:

> What if you spank her and it turns out she was correct

Then I tell her she needs to be correct respectfully.

Neurotoxin says:

Yes, the issue of who’s right is separate from the issue of respect.

Alf says:

You are as dominant as Kip is a martial artist.

TheDividualist says:

Okay, Alf, if you no longer want to be friends, we are now outroduced. Or extroduced, whatever is the opposite of introduced.

Anonymous says:

That’s a bit drastic. Friends call out each others’ BS.

Alf says:

Daddy Scarebucks once quipped that you’re like the weird kid on the school trip that disappears in the woods, turns up randomly to show the other kids a bug and disappears back in the woods.

And that’s fine. You can be that weird kid. However, what you can’t do is pretend that you weren’t in the woods all the time, that you were somehow listening to the conversation.

That your marriage was bound to fall apart was visible from space. Whenever the topic arose, you were given sound advice, in the vein of Peter V’s comment and many others. You. Never. Listened. You just shrugged and disappeared into the woods. Every time. And now you come here to complain, telling us ‘guys I actually listened the whole time but it didn’t work you must be wrong.’ Give me a break.

I highly, highly doubt that you’ll listen this time, but on the topic of your contested ‘dominance’ — being aloof, wandering in the woods on your own, is not dominance. Dominance is a social skill. Do others (women) listen to you, respect your opinion? If you never listen to others, how do you expect others to listen to you.

Pax Imperialis says:

>Instead, you got into BDSM. The ‘non-gay kind’, lmao

Now wait a second Alf, you be telling me that my ‘BDSM’ desire to blindfold, handcuff, press her face into the bed while fucking and spanking her is ‘gay’!?

It’s so over. 🙃

Jim says:

If desired but not acted upon, then gay. If safe word, gay. If she firmly objects the whole way, and believes her objections are sincere and not merely performative (chances are her objections are merely performative, regardless of what she believes) then not gay.

Peter V says:

Div, maybe contrary to other commentators, I’d suggest you stop trying to be dominant. Women know when men are faking alpha behaviour from a mile off, and you sounding your judgments could sound yelpish to her. No amount of BDSM is going to help with this. The beginning of any sound marriage is a man’s inner peace and confidence, which comes mostly from faith, as I’ve come to believe. Women love that precise confidence, transcendental, more-than-life confidence.

WQ as described by Jim is completely true and valid, but it’s also more than that, it’s like art or magic, you have to feel it to play it, and in that only God can help you (not BDSM masters ffs). Trying to consciously apply all PUA rules and formulas can work if you have the demons inside to back it up but is also immensely hard — the longer you do it, the harder. True magic comes naturally, in this peaceful, confident state — you simply start feeling your woman, feeling when she’s shit-testing you, even feeling that she feels she’s shit-testing you (doing that almost out of some formal obligation to her womanhood), and just laugh it off (often together with her), or spank her (with different degrees of power applied), or have her right there and then — she wants your love then (as understood by women, and some part of it is romantic, but mostly it’s about the feeling of belonging). It feels like you pass her shit-tests as if together with her, because she wants you to pass them. It’s FUN more than anything else. Or maybe I have it too easy nowadays, idk.

Make your peace with God before you approach gals. That’s Rule no. 1 in my book. Come to Russia maybe, girls here are indeed more traditionally-minded, but will that help you? I don’t know

Jack says:

Soros brought about the deaths of Ukrainians by funding “protestors” in the Maidan as part of the colour revolution that ousted the election-winning, Russian-friendly Yanukovych. The newly installed Maidan Regime began attacking the separatists in Donetsk and Luhansk who were unhappy with the election meddling and overwhelmingly voted for Yanukovych. This has lead to the Zelenskiy regime which is a totalitarian state that has sent around a million Ukrainians to their deaths rather than agree to Russia’s initial demands.

Humungus says:

Greetings…

It would be useful for the warrior class to have a bullet point format of what it means to be reactionary, 10 Commandments style…

ie
1. Thou shalt rule thy household like a man…etc.

This should come from the priestly class, which I am not and worded simply.

Why? So the essence of reactionary though is not lost to time.

Humungus says:

First draft…

Ten Reactionary Commandments:

1. Thou shalt preserve inherited traditions, recognizing them as the accumulated wisdom of generations rather than obstacles to progress.

2. Thou shalt uphold established authority, affirming order, discipline, and continuity as necessary foundations of social stability.

3. Thou shalt resist rapid or radical change, holding that social transformation should be rare, cautious, and grounded in precedent.

4. Thou shalt regard the past as a source of moral guidance, believing earlier social arrangements to possess virtues lost in modernity.

5. Thou shalt accept hierarchy as natural, acknowledging inequality as an enduring feature of human societies rather than a defect to be eliminated.

6. Thou shalt prioritize communal identity over individual autonomy, valuing nation, culture, faith, or lineage as primary sources of meaning.

7. Thou shalt distrust abstract universalism, favoring particular customs and local traditions over generalized theories of equality or rights.

8. Thou shalt maintain clear moral standards, rejecting relativism in favor of fixed ethical norms rooted in tradition or religion.

9. Thou shalt favor order over liberty when they conflict, judging social cohesion and stability to be of higher importance than unrestricted freedom.

10. Thou shalt seek restoration rather than reform, aiming to recover lost institutions or values rather than invent new social arrangements.

Contaminated NEET says:

How about:

Thou shalt clean thine own damned toilet.

Humungus says:

ty friendo, hopefully you’re not cleaning up after someone.

Contaminated NEET says:

If I were, that wouldn’t be a problem. The point is you don’t import slaves/helots/peasants to do your low-status low-pay dirty work. You do it yourself, or you pay your own people the going rate to do it. There is nothing on Earth more expensive than cheap labor, and the wealthy and powerful fall for it every time.

The Cominator says:

Lord Humungus,

#3 is wrong because we need a lot of radical changes right now… reactionaries are NOT conservatives. Conservatism is bullshit. We’re against changing things that have worked well even if we don’t quite know why, chesterton’s fence but we’re not always against change even radical change. We radically oppose feminism, social democracy, globalism, priestly rule, and not only the idea that leftists should govern but that they should be allowed to exist at all.

Randall says:

> Conservatism is bullshit.

Conservatives are just the way the Progressive-Left gets permanent uniparty ratified approval for the damage they already did.

> Lol no. Rob Reiner

Niggers stealing VCR’s = Guns
Mafia jewel thieves = Bats
Lefter than left = Molotov
Normie-right = Nah, we like the movies
Alt-right = Nope, it’s a trap
Stabbing Gay-Promoting Jews in Hanukah = Islam 3x Win

Willing to speculate it quickly gets ‘unsolved’.

Randall says:

> Reiners

Failed to consider demonic slaughter by gay jew son using the heirloom ritual Sakin/Challaf, my bad.
Seems ritual slaughter has unfortunately been returning around the world lately.
http://www.theepochtimes.com/article/nigerias-christians-are-caught-in-a-tide-of-jihadi-violence-5949887

Karl says:

2 is wrong. Established authority may well wan to kill you and your family. Then you have a duty to oppose it, not to uphold it. 3 is wrong for similar reason.

There is nothing in your list about god. You might add religion in 6

Humungus says:

Thank you for the feedback. Gonna let it ride for a bit, see what else comes.

Or someone else can run with it.

As stated, this is not a job for Humungus or the warrior class. This is a job for those who like to write.

There is a book on Art of War. If reactionary thought is going to be useful to the warrior, you need to lay it out.

Randall says:

Is there a current documented count of these COVAX numbers somewhere? Any archive of public coroners reports (ie: from filings in court/estates)?
https://x.com/4thOfJuly365/status/1992265810853888246

Black Pride Month
https://x.com/4thOfJuly365/status/2000381062678237515

Willing to speculate that Islam did the Reiner’s.

NSW court has ruled that Kirralie Smith must pay $95,000 for posts criticising a biological male playing in women’s sport.

Notice the Police are defending the Politicians… taking action to prevent the public from performing the necessary justice that would cause the Islam leave their land. Time to eject your Politicians and put in the brave civilians from among you.
https://x.com/Breaking911/status/2000174640522793198

Ilhan Omar admits the Red-Green Alliance is Absolutely Terrified of Real Americans with Guns, amid her Fake Crocodile Tears
https://x.com/Ilhan/status/2000259028828791145
“It is unacceptable we keep finding ourselves here as a country. We have the power to end this horrific cycle of gun violence and must act.”

Muslim nanny tried to poison an entire Jewish family in Paris after entering France illegally and being hired as a nanny using a fake Belgian ID.

Barron Trump News – Texas is going down
https://x.com/BarronTNews_/status/1991630835095675142

Senator Tommy Tuberville
https://x.com/BarronTNews_/status/2000353641526341716
https://x.com/CoachForGov/status/2000237132313747610
Islam is not a religion. It’s a cult. Islamists aren’t here to assimilate. They’re here to conquer. Stop worrying about offending the pearl clutchers. We’ve got to SEND THEM HOME NOW or we’ll become the United Caliphate of America.


Nick Fuentes vs Piers Morgan wasn’t an anomaly, it was a warning.
The media wants a villain. The political class wants a scapegoat. But the truth is simple: You shame men. You erase identity. You replace opportunity with quotas. You flood nations with mass immigration. And then you act shocked when backlash follows. They’re not afraid of extremism. They’re afraid of being held responsible.

Gathering the Warriors
https://x.com/BarronTNews_/status/2000345831904264458

Training Season is Now
https://x.com/4thOfJuly365/status/2000388972036628852

Charlie Kirk
https://x.com/BarronTNews_/status/2000345774450790684
Don’t get caught dead, defend Christmas and Jesus Christ.

“After four months of this nonstop bombardment, on Christmas Eve 1144, Edessa fell. Swarms of Muslims “rushed together from all directions, entered the city, and put to the sword all whom they encountered,” writes William of Tyre. They slaughtered some thirty thousand Christians in the initial frenzy. “Neither age, condition, nor sex was spared.” Historian Joseph-Francois Michaud elaborates on the nightmare that next unfolded based on a close reading of the sources: Neither the weakness of a timid sex, nor age on the brink of the tomb; neither the cries of infants, nor the screams of young girls who sought safety in the arms, or beneath the garments of their parents, could abate the rage of the Saracens. They whom the sword had not yet reached, looked for nothing but death; some crept to the churches to await it, and died embracing the altars of Christ; whilst others, yielding to their despair, remained motionless in their houses, where they were massacred with their families. To mark their victory, Muslim sheikhs ascended the steeples of the churches of Edessa, hollering “Allahu Akbar” and other triumphal ejaculations, including “Oh Muhammad! prophet of heaven, we have gained a great victory in your name; we have destroyed the people that worshipped stone [on the Muslim belief that Christians are idolaters], and torrents of blood have been shed to make your law triumph.”

Hasan Piker – Internet-ID
https://x.com/georgieAM/status/1998962266402873617
You’re not being protected, you’re being managed. This “child safety” push is just the latest way to expand digital ID, face scans and behaviour tracking by starting with your kids. And let’s be honest: the government only pretends to fight Big Tech when it suits them. During the pandemic they worked together to censor anyone who stepped out of line. Now they use the same fear to sell a new layer of control, and too many parents fall for it because a weakened society begs the State to step in. This isn’t about safety. It’s about compliance. Do you see how they’re manipulating you?

The Cominator says:

> Islam did the Reiners
Lol no. Rob was a really really outspoken annoying radical bigoted self righteous shitlib much worse than meathead IRL like one of the worst of the worst. I imagine any kid forced to endure him would want to kill him. The weird thing is despite this he made a couple great movies without that somehow fucking it up.

Oog en Hand says:

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Jim says:

You, Oog en Hand, linked to an entirely off topic and unrelated web page wherein a post Christian lesbian liberation theologian complains Liberation Theology has become impotent and irrelevant and that the masses are being oppressed by actual Christianity, which is horribly capitalistic and patriarchal.

Liberation Theology was a tool to transition Roman Catholics to dialectical materialism, and is now being forgotten and discarded as the Vatican focuses on transition to outright demon worship.

A2 says:

Spandrell grew tired of the struggle: https://spandrell.ch/2024/3/3/a-post-mortem-on-neoreaction

Kind of interesting diagnosis, though I don’t agree about a number of his items. His closing call to action rings rather hollow.

Jim says:

Spandrell is the last gasp of the atheist right, atheist reaction.

A long time back the atheist reaction agreed we were not getting anywhere without a good old fashioned supernatural religion, so time to believe, or pretend to believe.

You have to bring a gun to a gunfight and a faith to a holy war. Time for theocratic reaction, the theonomist right, Christian nationalism. Spandrell, it seems, did not get the memo.

And while I was pretending to believe, God showed up and had a word with me.

If you want reproduction then poofs off roofs, and make women property again. The Old Testament law on love, sex, marriage, and children, was functional, and the law of eighteenth century England on sex, marriage, and children, written and interpreted in the spirit of the Old Testament law, was functional. Theonomy is the ten dollar word for white sharia. The future belongs to those that show up. Atheist reaction lacks a persuasive answer to the woman question.

Game, the art and science of slaying pussy, is primarily game theory and evolutionary game theory applied sex, reproduction, and the mating dance.

Reaction is primarily game theory applied to politics.

But game theory predicts maximal defection — points to Machiavelli in politics, and the game of players and bitches in sex. But no one wins at the game of players and bitches, and no one wins at Machiavellian politics.

We are always governed by a synthetic tribe, it has been that way for four millenia. The tribesmen share a faith. And universities, as long as they have existed, have been the seminaries of that faith, and everyone who matters in the governing apparatus is required to adhere to that faith.

In the eighteenth and early nineteenth century, your Anglican pastor gave you the OK as a legitimate adherent. Then the universities quietly took over that function, resulting in a gigantic expansion of the universities. Instead of wasting a part of one day each week to prove you were one of the correct people it was Ok to give a high status job to, you had to waste your entire youth. This is an enormous waste, and also resulted in the state religion becoming ever more intense and extreme, and ever more absurd.

Anonymous Fake says:

So now we have an “antisemitism” czar (lol) who wants to remove all the hate speech from the internet. [*Rest of the lies deleted*]

Jim says:

The “Office of the Special Envoy to Monitor and Combat Antisemitism” was created in 2004, and Trump has declined to appoint anyone to the job in either of his presidencies. It became vacant under both Trump presidencies, and remains vacant today.

Groyp1B says:

Nick Fuentes [*deleted for not conforming to the moderation policy*]

Jim says:

Can the Groypers commit a thought crime?

We shall see.

Groyp1B says:

[*deleted for not conforming to the moderation policy*]

The Cominator says:

4chan is way more usable, the new captcha is an IQ test. Indians can’t comment there anymore and browns of any kind can’t post threads (the thread captcha is a lot harder).

c4ssidy says:

There has been anecdotes mentioned here like folding laundry, tasks hard for data crunchers to solve, but easy for a basic sentient being. I wonder if someone will eventually scientifically quantify this stuff, so that you could generate an infinite variation of say a small platformer designed with particular constraints, and solve a unique task that is easy for a human to do but would confuse even the most advanced LLMS. This could become the new ‘currency’ for internet messaging. Suppose we could submit these human solutions to the blockchain. What if a coin was handled this way? You’d ‘mine’ by playing endlessly unique videogame scenarios, and a government going for the 51% would require mass enslavement rather than mass microchips. The proof I suppose would be a fully deterministic repeat of the game, where a particular seed and a particular set of inputs on each frame would eventually reach a specific program state

Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

Convolutional networks are nominalistic, in that they make little to no distinction between trivial differences and significant differences; something slightly unprecedented in the training set is just as incomprehensible as something in a completely different sphere altogether.

So things hard for an ‘expert system’ to do tend to be things that involve ‘explosions in formspace’.

Designing an autopilot program is relatively easy, because flight in open sky is can be abstracted to a few simple vectors, a hack that many designs made use of. Whereas, designing an automatic driving program is hard, because land navigation requires a constant continuum of interventions in response to a constant continuum of trivially distinct novelties.

Even if you, as dasein in possession of world-formation capacity, can perceive essential relationships between one situation and another, in the technique you use to drive in one situation with many others, and can extend and elaborate that essential technique in order to accomplish the intended telos, the creatus has no such capacity (and nor, by degrees, for that matter, do the congenital solipsists eternally dogging human kinds).

c4ssidy says:

“explosion in form-space”

I notice that for about 15 years after machine outdid man at chess (imagine a blockchain where a mining solution is a chess solution), human+machine still ruled over pure machine. It seems to be one of those examples on the edge, an apparent explosion into infinity to us, but still tiny relative to say, physical objects in a pile, and then again with folded or contorted ones.

For a task more like the infinities of self-driving, I am thinking geometric shapes with a lot of movement, physics, bounces and such, changes over time (so aligning two different complex setups to ‘hit’ at the critical moment), and also nested entities, whose own logic each frame depend on the state of the world around them. This aligns pretty well with our ancestral focus on swinging on trees and modelling the behaviours of small and large creatures. I like the phrase ‘explosion in formspace’ a lot. It sounds like with just repeating the task of ‘add another novel mechanic that affects every other mechanic’ that reaching a ‘proof of human work’ system would actually be trivial.

Tejano Bob says:

The “Ballad of John Henry” commemorates the last time a man beat a steam engine. Nobody dreams of out digging an excavator today.

They should make a ballad commemorating the chess battle between Deep Blue and Kasparov. People somehow dream of out calculating an Excel spreadsheet today.

Mind-Body-Spirit. Anyone that doesn’t accept that moral reasoning is the future of Man is going to be obsolete farm equipment that is too ugly to fuck.

c4ssidy says:

I will try making a language designed for verifiable replays, typically where one would make a world filled with geometric shapes with all kinds of multiplicative effects on each other (represented by colours, orbs and so on), that start in a pseudo-random pile based on a seed, and an end state (like ‘pick up the green orb’), and are usually solvable. Being an open system, you could bet on a particular design being machined in the future or not, based on the value of its coin

Tejano Bob says:

The “human test” is going to end up looking like Bladerunner. It will be a moral exam.

The problem with driving on the road is that there are continuous moral exams, “should I do this or that.” Musk got something correct with his self-driver, “don’t hit the point clouds.”

Anon says:

i want to put this qoute
from X here
“Future wars will not have a line of contact, but a 25 km kill zone-gray area and drone pilots will be the most valuable asset.

“In 2026, we will see a completely different battlefield. The line of contact—from zero out to 20–25 kilometers toward the enemy and toward us—will become a maximum gray zone, where our infantry will be present in a dispersed, non-continuous manner. Without infantry, war is impossible. Everyone else will be working to ensure the infantryman’s ability to survive in these harsh conditions of a total kill zone.”

– Ukrainian commander of the unmanned systems regiment Achilles, Major Yurii Fedorenko, on the battlefield of 2026”
pretty much what jim is saying.

if this happen dose this mean the ukraine can fight longer when it is drone on drone

S says:

If the switch to drones means the frontline is less densely defended AND the loss rate is the same, then it means Ukraine can fight longer (since it reduces their infantry burn rate). However the Russians went from artillery at the start of the war to artillery, drones, missiles and glide bombs and increased the size of their military enabling higher intensity fighting.

It is an empirical question that can be resolved by looking at Ukrainian losses over time; unfortunately I don’t know of any good loss over time source. The closest proxy is desertions per year, but morale collapse is a confounder.

Jim says:

There are indirect indicators of the Ukrainian loss rate.

It is often said that in the greatest Ukrainian counter offensive never reached the first line of defence. This is not true, but it is not exactly false either.

They did reach the first line of defence in two places, and in one place small numbers of troops on foot got a fair way beyond the first line of defence. But there was this mighty torrent of men, tanks, and armored personnel carriers launched at the Russians, and this small dribble of men on foot making it through over the first line. So what happened to rest of that mighty torrent?

Today, Russians always attack from the rear. They punch through a weak point somewhere, and then spread out behind enemy lines. Ukrainian troops are seldom allowed to retreat, until it is far too late to retreat.

So Russian advances are not so much pushing the Ukrainians back, as destroying them in place.

Another indicator is that prisoners taken by the Russians, and Ukrainian soldiers on social media, have seldom been at the front for very long, which suggests that no one survives very long in the Ukrainian army.

FrankNorman says:

Another indicator is that prisoners taken by the Russians, and Ukrainian soldiers on social media, have seldom been at the front for very long, which suggests that no one survives very long in the Ukrainian army.

Or that the ones that do, don’t post on social media or get taken prisoner.

“All old soldiers are experts in the arts of war. Because if you’re not an expert, you don’t live to be old!”

Hesiod says:

https://x.com/SecWar/status/2001113071108882526

“The ongoing war on warriors” is a catchy turn of phrase from Hegseth in this clip announcing revamping the Chaplain Corps to kick secular humanism to the curb. Perhaps someone has been listening to our Jim, after all.

Jim says:

Pete Hegseth is arming his men for the war that I have long predicted.

Contaminated NEET says:

Two weeks to flatten the Left.

Pax Imperialis says:

My 1776 ‘warrior dividend’ dropped into my checking. Interesting timing for a bonus.

One Soul says:

After a decade of silence i post again among my brethren.

Shill Test: i cant find the christian one on this blog right now, the search function does not include the comments, i glady copy paste it if someone post it.

Plainapes function differently mentally (low impulse control, lower iq etc), most traits are hereditary, blank slate is an utter lie.
Man and women are fundamentally different, women are the helpmeet of men. In societies that reproduce and thrive Husband, and before marriage the father, has full authority over women, including physical disciplining.
Women are hypergamous, reach sexual maturity and fuck waay before 18, and should not be put in leadership positions especially in their fertile years, they will wreck the company to find a hand that slaps her in her place and fucks her.
George Soros, Democracy now, USaid under direction from people like Nuland etc. change regimes overseas, which results in murder, destruction, looting and sometimes control by GAE.

if any are missing i gladly commit more thoughtcrimes

Jim says:

I affirm that Jesus Christ is Lord, born in Bethlehem, died at Jerusalem, and is, is from before the beginning of the world. Fully God and fully man. God is three and God is one.

One Soul says:

if memory serves my right i read a longer one on this blog that i liked even more.
it misses something for example: our Lord Jesus Christ rose on the 3rd day.
I would love a post from you about anti christian entryism and the affirmation of faith in Jesus Christ.

I affirm that Jesus Christ is Lord, born in Bethlehem, died at Jerusalem, and is, is from before the beginning of the world. Fully God and fully man. God is three and God is one.

Hesiod says:

Perhaps you’re recalling these lines from the Nicene Creed:

He was crucified for us under Pontius Pilate;
he suffered and was buried.
The third day he rose again, according to the Scriptures.

FrankNorman says:

Any proper Christian affirmation of Jesus should include His resurrection.

A liberal who believes in “Jesus the Jewish community organizer” will think of Him as someone who lived and died back them, and “lives on through his teaching” or somesuch.

A Christian affirms that Jesus Christ is Lord! That He died and rose again. And that He will one day return to judge the living and the dead.

Jim says:

The point of the affirmation is to exclude the versions of post Christianity that are around today and who show up in the comments section.

If we exclude every heresy that ever there was, you wind up with something like the thirty nine articles, which is an open book exam.

It is targeted just to exclude the current enemies who show up on this blog.

Have not run into any heretics who accept the full humanity and full divinity of Jesus Christ. but reject the resurrection.

One Soul says:

On the 3rd of February this year i felt compelled to write a litany against our evil priestly class. It felt like the words flowed out of me by the help of the Lord. It were 5 pages, i post 1 today because i it is late, rest i will post another time promised.

Our needs are not met
In ages past , the mighty lords and free men, from whom I derive the part of my ancestry that is the best in me, those lovers liberty, truth , they who did not turn away from mortal danger for that which they knew to be their right , those raiser of beast and eaters of curds, had the answer to the women question, an instruction given by our almighty lord, YWh, to Adam for the Adamic races to keep and to follow, but not to the non Adamic races.
The women are exchanged between the Fathers of two families. She fully becomes legal minor under her husband. She becomes a member of her new family unless she remarries, then she fully becomes a member other. If husband dies, the son becomes the guardian of his sisters and mother, coming to age , between 15- 25, whenever he is able to kill in combat grown evil men, if he was born a cripple he has no right to guardianship and nearest kinsmen by blood should take guardianship, if no kin lives the local Lord of the territory.
The Guardian is Dutybound to find them husbands as soon as possible to prevent the sin of Lust. If they choose to remain chaste for the sake of our LORD, the guardian must to guard their chasity, if they break it, with shotgun marriages or give them to concubinage.
If he cannot feed them out of poverty or the sisters reach an age pass a threshold where they are unmarried ( 20 is plenty old) , they become fair game for marriage facilitated by the lord, a baron higher up, who rules the land in the name of Throne and Alter. A
Such a realm is blessed with early marriage and obedient wives who are loved and cherished. We are saved from the sin of adultery, sex outside of marriage and masturbation.

ps. Shilltest posted beforehand

Anonymous Fake says:

https://x.com/i/trending/2001463161690419596

Criminalization of chopping off kids’ genitals, but we only have to wonder why the vote was so close and why now? Why wasn’t this signed by Trump on day 1? And why limit it to under 18’s?

And when you think about it, mutilating anyone’s genitals is already illegal. Why no enforcement?

I’ve also noticed that all of a sudden everyone seems to realize how unfair affirmative action is. Seemingly instantly. Why?

Randall says:

Holy War Channel – Historian Raymond Ibrahim
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Shwe8xx9Oy0 w Steve Bannon – Church Militant
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HAtOrBrfQBk w Victor Davis Hanson
x.com/triggerpod/status/2000279874985181247 w triggerpod
raymondibrahim.com/

Polemics Intro
x.com/UsamaDakdok
x.com/LloydDeJongh
x.com/ApostateProphet
answering-islam.org/

Banned History – Light of the Lord
x.com /drkenon2/status/1995926730637459504

Quran Wrecked by the Bible which came before and cannot be contradicted
x.com /AmyMek/status/1986030533923762600

x.com /VividProwess/status/2000194126856278144 Nova,AU
x.com /AmichaiChikli/status/2000286356321268104 Qatar
x.com /VividProwess/status/2000212146915844252 Netanyahu
x.com /OzraeliAvi/status/1998625354194588153

France
x.com /WallStreetApes/status/1996039728974758367

righteous violence
http://www.youtube.com /watch?v=oRF846FQkIA

adam carolla – immigration, leftism, women
http://www.youtube.com /watch?v=wRppOssMgpw

Christian Concert?
x.com /WallStreetApes/status/2000336369047269841

Weird Fusion Murder
http://www.theguardian.com /education/2025/dec/17/mit-shooting-death-nuno-loureiro

Randall says:

When Western Politicians start getting Fatwa’s on their heads, they’re doing good work, and need support.

x.com/RepKeithSelf/status/2001044746735644988
foxnews.com/politics/chip-roy-other-republicans-push-bill-block-deport-sharia-law-adherent-aliens-existential-threat

dedman says:

Nowhere in the Bitcoin whitepaper does it mention BTC being a store of value, an inflation hedge, recession proof, digital gold, a geopolitical hedge, or a retirement asset. These narratives were 100% invented by maxis to push the scheme on more naive retail sheep, because the entire system depends on constant inflows to keep the price propped up so early holders can extract more fiat. Satoshi explicitly described Bitcoin as a peer-to-peer system for online payments. That was almost 2 decades ago. Today it is slow, obsolete, expensive to use, and practically irrelevant in real commerce. So yes, when I say Bitcoin has no intrinsic value and functions purely as a speculative gambling instrument, that is a fact, not an opinion.

Jim says:

Allowing this through, because you have actually read the white paper. But you are still on moderation. To get out of moderation, take the shill test.

> Nowhere in the Bitcoin whitepaper does it mention BTC being a store of value, an inflation hedge, recession proof, digital gold, a geopolitical hedge, or a retirement asset.

Satoshi’s proposal was issued in an email group that extensively discussed these things. These ideas predate Bitcoin. Predate them by quite a lot.

Before Bitcoin, the group attempted digital gold, a gold backed digital currency — which was shut down by the feds seizing the backing..

The objective of the group was always to replace fiat, and everyone investing in bitcoin is investing in it on the theory that fiat will self destruct, as it always has. This theory predates Bitcoin itself,

Bitcoin was immediately criticised on the grounds that it could not scale to the required size, and as soon as it acquired actual exchangeable value, blockchain analysis ensued, revealing an alarming lack of privacy. The theory then became that it would be digital gold, that the world would eventually go to a bitcoin standard, rather than a gold standard, following the collapse of fiat.

So, what is needed, and what people immediately started work on, long before the phrase “Bitcoin Maxi” was coined, was a scalable layer two digital currency with privacy that would be bitcoin backed, a layer two currency. Lightning was the first stab at this.

Lightning itself has scaling and privacy issues. Liquid Lightning can in theory solve this, but at this moment there are as yet no self custody liquid lightning wallets that anyone who is not a linux sysadmin and linux guru can safely use, and self custody lightning wallets are difficult and dangerous to use.

Meanwhile BRICS is attempting to create BRICSpay, a system of Central Bank digital currencies denominated in fiat, with the central banks doing exchanges in actual physical gold, through a Gold Exchange located in Russia, and another gold exchange located in China. However, moving gold physically is difficult and dangerous.

In practice, individuals moving money between the BRICS system and the SWIFT system tend to use bitcoin.

Thus, for example, when Nexperia was seized, the components it was supplying became unavailable if you were trying to buy them with money in the SWIFT system, causing a crisis in the car industry, which resulted in SWIFT money being converted into BRICS money through Bitcoin.

Due to collapse in trust, the international banking system is breaking down, and we increasingly see normies moving money between systems using blockchain currencies — which unfortunately is resulting in a growth of stablecoins, blockchains which purport to be backed by fiat, and which are convertible into fiat.

Because of the collapse of trust and trustworthiness central banks are moving from the dollar to gold — but, because of the immovability of gold, individuals are using blockchain systems, and the gold of the entities issuing fiat denominated stablecoins is Bitcoin. Central banks, therefore, are starting to invest in Bitcoin.

Gold and silver have soared, and a large difference has appeared between the price of paper silver and actual physical silver. Last time I checked, the price of paper silver was US$62.50, but actual silver was $70-$80. Paper gold remains convertible so far, but holders of paper gold are getting nervous. Central banks among those getting nervous. This makes gold substantially less useful as the medium of international exchange, but the BRICS policy is gold, not bitcoin.

I doubt this policy will survive, but markets can remain irrational longer than you can remain solvent.

As soon as Bitcoin acquired substantial value and a substantial use case as a medium of international exchange, people immediately started working on the problem of a scalable and private digital currency. All the work on concise zero knowledge proofs is motivated by this use case, which work again predates the phrase “Bitcoin Maxi”.

The ultimate solution, proposed, from memory in 2018, is to apply the technology of concise zero knowlege proofs to a level two or level three bitcoin running on a blockchain that uses these proofs. Work is under way on this project.

My Rho project has a different focus — the infrastructure required to make this useful. Satoshi was going after the siegnorage tax (inflation). I am going after the mediation of transactions and the fees for internet identity.

The Cominator says:

My good Christmas music list from last year (but its still what I like best)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYRsgcVUTvk – Andy Williams – The First Noel

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmJnKCr1dNk Silent Night – Bing Crosby version

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9jbdgZidu8 – Fairytale of New York – The Pogues feat. Kirsty MacColl. Yes it was made in fairly modern times by potato niggers and its still great

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sh-J4GSPgAM The Royal Guardsmen – Snoopy v the Red Baron

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4EvZOXEoJ84 Darlene Love – Christmas (Baby Please Come Home) yes sung by nigger women still great. You probably heard it in Gremlins and/or Goodfellas

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4czNpbQmJ4c Also from the Goodfellas soundtrack

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lnYSTnTMGQo Baby its cold outside – Dean Martin version

Hesiod says:

The Pogues’ If I Should Fall from Grace with God is a banger. Their late 80s appearance on Saturday Night Live brought them to my attention back in the day. The lead singer suffered a most tragic case of meth mouth, IIRC, which was unusual then but fairly low effort now for an aspiring pop star.

The Cominator says:

The funny thing is that despite being such a degenerate drug addict and drunk that he was kicked out of an Irish band as the lead singer and songwriter (I find that level of degeneracy hard to imagine) he lived to 65… while Kirsty Maccoll (talented girl singer song writer) who was much more clean living than Shane (but everyone was) was died young because she got hit by a drunk Mexican’s boat.

The Pogues had a lot of good songs though if I should Fall From Grace with God is indeed one of their best. I like Sickbed of Culchalin (starts out real slow).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAKZ9eyuhiY
“When you pissed yourself in Frankfurt and got syph down in Cologne
And you heard the rattling death trains as you lay there all alone
Frank Ryan bought you whiskey in a brothel in Madrid
And you decked some fucking black shirt who was cursing all the Yids”

Hesiod says:

Related to music, Trump today signed an executive order reclassifying weed. If the stoner community does not acknowledge this by at least dubbing a generous blunt of the highest quality leaf as a Trump, as in “ayo, let’s fire up a Trump and listen to Pink Floyd’s Meddle”, they are some ungrateful bastards. But TDS, to a greater or lesser degree, is all too prevalent, alas.

Contaminated NEET says:

Trump does something to appeal to a demographic that despises him; they continue despising him, he learns nothing. Episode 552.

Jehu says:

Human beings, in general, just don’t do gratitude. Wise men at least try to fake it to some degree. The truly crazy thing is how much we hate ingratitude in others.

Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

Weird song to appreciate, but I suppose it fits the profile. Illuminating.

The Cominator says:

https://x.com/EricLDaugh/status/2001850068903879021
Holy shit leftist judge actually convicted…

Cloudswrest says:

Speaking of judges, what’s y’all’s opinion of the Trump administration sanctioning two European ICC judges for their judicial decisions? And for a foreign state to boot!

I can understand removing a judge based on “obnoxious” decisions, or outright ignoring their decisions (e.g. Jackson), but penalizing them for their decisions (assuming no bribery or other malfeasance) strikes me as base blackmail and/or extortion, which defeats the whole point of having a judge.

Contaminated NEET says:

The whole point of having a judge is to pretend Leftist goals are natural and unavoidable outcomes that nobody is responsible for and nobody can oppose.

Karl says:

Not quite, any state needs judges because legal disputes need to be judged and criminals need to be punished. Judges of international organisitions are something very different. They are priests of a religion that wants to interfere in internal politics of other states, especially of states that never joined this international organisation.

Sometimes such judges can be ignored, but there is a limit. Once that limit is reached, a government either submits to such an organistaion or goes to war against it.

Jim says:

> any state needs judges

The problem is “judicial independence”. If “judicial independence”, then the judges can make up any law they choose, and enforce it, and the sovereign cannot. In which case you have three thousand kings three miles away instead of one king three thousand miles away.

If judges enforce the law as written, if they don’t get unduly creative about interpreting the law, then “judicial independence” will work fine, but if “independent” how do you make them enforce the law as written?

Deportation is only working because Trump has seized the power to actually deport people. If they all had full judicial process, even the most vicious of criminal invaders would never get deported.

The Cominator says:

In any system except an ABSOLUTE monarchy or dictatorship (and most monarchies in the western tradition did not have absolute power to tax and legislate even if they were an absolute executive which is sort of what id like to get to long term) its a difficult problem independent judges suck but Charles I was using the dependency of judges to make them rule that yes he could use the ship money rule (traditionally used on coastal towns for emergency building up the navy money) to levy money from every hamlet in England. Judges would perhaps best be replaced with AI and let’s see how they do…

Karl says:

You can’t replace judgement. If an AI is used to judge, the judge is the person who programms the KI is the judge

Cloudswrest says:

If an AI is used to judge, the judge is the person who programs the AI

Well yeah. That would be “the legislature” or the “sovereign”, etc.

I’ve often thought the judiciary should be an AI. After all the “law” is supposed to be a machine, meant to insure consistency and fairness. The AI would also disallow contradictory or conflicting laws. And it would have accurate, instant access to all aspects of the law and prior case decisions. Enforcement of the law should always reside in human hands, police, military, etc. And convictions should still be by human jury (although this is problematic in a multicultural society.)

Karl says:

Indeed, judgement is a service the souvereign provides to all subjects. Since there are always more cases to be decided than one man can handle, the souvereign needs judges. The ultimate authority is the souvereign who can alter any decision of any of his courts. The king is the highest judge of the highest appeals court. That is how it was done in better times and it is the way jurisdiction can work.

Tejano Bob says:

Eh. Judges are supposed to be umpires. They should be merciless and utterly following the written law. A complete objective vision of Sovereign and Righteous Justice. Perfect place for an implacable and inhumane computer.

However, the jury has the responsibility for representing the tribe’s Morality and Mercy.

Between them, they demonstrate the Nation’s laws to those who break the peace.

The Cominator says:

As I said that’s a problem in monarchies that are powerful but not quite absolute (the western tradition of monarchy where the monarchs had a few limitations ie taxation, legislation, and under normal circumstances could not condemn people without trial) independ judges suck but dependent judges can be used to bypass this limitation. Hence why I’m thinking AI judges might be best in a king strong but not absolute system.

Randall says:

> The whole point of having a judge is to pretend Leftist goals are natural and unavoidable outcomes that nobody is responsible for and nobody can oppose.

Exemplified by the Woman-Black Ketanji… listen to the youtube speeches of the leftist activism she’s been spewing on the Supreme Court, read the opinions. The “Natural/Unavoidable/Irresponsible-Oops” of the Female, Black, Leftist.

But it can be opposed, and corrected, by Man.

However, just like Ilhan, AOC, and the rest, she married a cucked White Man (from Harvard, lol) who traitored out his own kind and good heritage to elevate these witches in power over themselves. She also worships this ridiculous Left-Liberal White Jew…
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Sandel

Not even Clarence Thomas has yet been able to bitchslap that feral woman back into her proper position as a helper.

If anyone under Trump’s term leaves, pray he puts in someone consistantly Right and Good… a straight white male (preferably christian-type with children), stable and based.

Because the Progressivism and now Leftist-Diversity of the court has been a problem for 150+ years that needs reverted.

Unfortunately, he might put in a Jewish Woman, or a Jew, or another White Woman, or some useless wishy-washy RINO-type.

Jehu says:

I kinda like it as a mechanism. I mean, Trump can’t remove them or impeach them or get rid of the ICC—the US isn’t even a member. But that’s fine. Institutions don’t hurt, individuals do. Judges are individuals.

Karl says:

Institution is just another word for organisation. Some organisations are declared terror organisations for a reason. Sometimes sanctioning only specific members of an organisation is not enough

Jim says:

> defeats the whole point of having a judge.

I am in favor of rounding up the entire judiciary and shipping them to re-education camp in Alaska. The judiciary is corrupt and lawless.

The judiciary is so bad that almost any replacement is likely to be an improvement.

Jim says:

> assuming no bribery or other malfeasance

The ICC is all malfeasance all the time. Every decision of which I am aware, every judgement I have heard of that they have issued, should have been met with missile strikes on ICC headquarters. Now it is possible that I have only heard of the “controversial” judgements. Can you perhaps find me an ICC judgement that is not “controversial”? Can you link me to anything the ICC has done which is not malicious evil?

When USAID was shut down, the Dems went looking for some plausibly heart warming beneficiary of USAID, came up completely empty handed. Can you find some plausibly just action of the ICC?

American courts have been known to take bad guys off the streets once in a while. What has the ICC done?

Cloudswrest says:

… should have been met with missile strikes on ICC headquarters

Indubitably. Especially since they arrogate authority to themselves over other peoples and places. But I was referring to sanctioning a judge for his decisions. It’s the court itself that needs to be sanctioned. It looks like most, if not all, of the big alt-right accounts on X are condemning these sanctions. But I think it has more to do with Trump kowtowing to Israel rather than love and respect for the ICC.

But I want to segue here to the effect of these sanctions, and implications for Bitcoin. These sanctions freeze their assets in America, and deplatform and debank them in the West in general. They’re debanked even from European banks by “induction” or chain connectivity to American banks. Anybody who does business with them is also excommunicated via the Swift system, etc. I was wondering how hard it would be for a (rogue) Western country to setup, or endorse, a parallel banking system using the blockchain for global interbank settlement. The banks’ internal accounting would serve as “side chains” for account holders and the like.

A2 says:

Russia and China have their own SWIFT-like systems, though I don’t hear much about them, so how much are they actually used?

Switzerland might be a good Western country to implement this and act as a gateway, at a minimum, even if they haven’t been the same since Obama screwed them over. Or Dubai, or Singapore. (In the larger scheme of things, we need to get away from the Dead Europe paradigm.)

The topic has previously been discussed on this blog too. I believe Jim’s rho-coin may fit the bill.

Karl says:

The US never joined the ICC, never agreed to give ICC judges any priviledges. So Trump has every right to sanction judges of the ICC.

Roki says:

@OlenaRohoza
In the Middle East, there is an old phrase. It is not a metaphor. It is a schedule. It is spoken quietly, almost in a whisper, yet it carries a promise the West stubbornly refuses to hear: “First Saturday. Then Sunday.” For years you were told that the rage consuming the Middle East is about borders, maps, “Palestinian grievances,” complex history, and local conflicts. You were told it was far away. That it was “not about you.” You were lied to. This past weekend in Bavaria, this “schedule” moved forward once again. Five men sat in a room planning to drive a car into a crowded Christmas market. They were not desperate refugees. Not victims of circumstance. They were three Moroccans, a Syrian, and an Egyptian imam — a man who used the pulpit not for prayer, but for calls to bloodshed. Their target was not a military base. Not an embassy. Not a state. Their target was families drinking hot chocolate. Children watching Christmas lights. Living people. This massacre was not planned because of the borders of the West Bank. Not because of politics. It was planned because you are a Christian. Because you are secular. Because you simply exist. The Jewish people are merely the first line of defense in a war against civilization itself. When that line falls, violence does not stop. It spreads. If you think you can buy safety by looking away when they come for the Jews, you are deeply mistaken. When they are finished with Saturday, they will come for Sunday. Inviting this ideology into your home and calling it “diversity” is not tolerance. Not multiculturalism. It is a slow, agonizing suicide…

Jim says:

> The Jewish people are merely the first line of defense in a war against civilization itself

If Jews are our first line of defense, how come they don’t support borders for whites the way that Trump supports borders for Europeans and Israel

How come jews are triggered by “Merry Christmas”, by Easter, by Christian symbols on Christmas wrapping paper and Christmas trees, and Muslims are not.

How come the Dubai Christmas tree has the five pointed star on top, and New York Christmas tree does not?

How come I cannot buy Christmas wrapping paper with Christian symbols on it?

Hesiod says:
Randall says:

Rockets? Moon? NASA? Just like Boeing, it’s filled with many Shaniqua who can’t even turn a simple wrench without whining to the prog HR catlady about their nails. If Isaacman can clean all that useless dead weight and anti-success out, then maybe.

Also, Musk needs to stop letting his Rocket Tech get stolen by the Chinese/Russia/Hindus. Same as ASML and its people need to be crated up and shipped to the USA before the EuroBrowns completely whore it out. Intel needs returned to the USA from Israel and cleaned out. etcetera. USA needs more Basic Research, less Harvard. More in private sector where it’s more protected from, and more effective against, Govt tides.

Lefty CatLady Judges bleating for Imported Hispanic Men to invite into their beds
“Milwaukee Judge Hannah Dugan Found Guilty Of Felony Obstruction”
Executive Director 2009 of what became embroiled
https://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/catholic-charities-refugee-program-laysoffs-federal-funds-pause/3772270/

If you’re going to bring people in, at least bring in ones of known Good Will, compatible, that support themselves (or that you personally sign for and directly guarantor for life), and who aren’t sworn against you (Islam/Left).

Hesiod says:

Perhaps it’s not occurring swiftly enough, but some high-profile Shaniquas are being held accountable as this resignation rant by the outgoing Washington DC police chief amusingly demonstrates:

https://patriots.win/p/1ARdMdmn8L/dei-dc-police-chief-pam-smith-ju/c

Saw Fani Willis perform in a similar manner during her investigation testimony earlier in the week. Waiting for one to go full chimp-out and start savaging the press.

Humungus says:

Greetings…

I was gravely disappointed in your response to my query on the main points of Reactionarism. Which tells me you don’t care or they don’t exist. All movements must have a framework. Saying women run wild is not sufficient.

Obsession with Jews. This blog keeps bringing it up and I’ve stayed out of it. MossadNick was on my 6 trying to put words on me. I suspect he was the same person as DunningKruger DK switched to be clever. And he is likely lurking here and elsewhere.

I want to be crystal clear: I don’t like Jews. Com may take offense, but too bad. Now you may censor Humungus if you like. I’ve wrote what I wrote!

S says:

Reaction is about replacing dispersed power held by evil people with formalized power held by virtuous people and destroying demonic religions with the true faith. The priesting is to identify enemies, not to mobilize proles for cover; whatever justifications for how power shakes out and is structured- the decisions of the warriors- are going to be given retroactive legitimacy by the clergy, not established in advance.

The Cominator says:

I think everyone is overcomplicating what reaction is fundamentally it has two core tenets

1. Admit that what we are doing isn’t working. Admit that its been making it worse for a longer time than even hardcore normiecons (not even cuckservatives but say people Charlie Kirk) are willing to admit.
2. Being free to look across time and space even into eras currently demonized and deemed barbarous and evil for solutions that did work.
On point #1 people are going to disagree on how far the main rollback needs to be. I actually rather like the immediate aftermath of the Napoleonic Wars as a good compromise between the good aspects of individual liberalism and the ancien regime and I think the only problem was that the ruling class didn’t have enough will to crush leftist resistance and conspiracies (and the early 19th century saw some great conspiracies) harshly enough. The era was a great time of invention culture science growth and human flourishing. Jim thinks we have to generally go back to the late 1600s or early 1700s which had growth but not like the early 19th century. Jim I think will strong argue the Belle Epoque could not be stabilized by force or even a combination of force and religion but I think it was merely a problem that the “ancien regime” no longer believed in itself enough to use enough force and the insincerity made its throne and altar arrangement hollow. This was simply a post French revolution crisis of confidence (which actually would have been worse except the Tsars did have confidence until Nicholas II).

On point #2 even when people agree on what general era they want to pick as their ideal point people are going to disagree on all sorts of details of what to bring back from when.

yewotm8 says:

As far as I can remember, Kunning Drueger was a beloved commenter who made plenty of long effortposts. His style and tone did not at all match Mossadnik’s nor the shilly visitors that Mossadnik tried to paint as him. For instance, search his posts here: https://blog.reaction.la/economics/national-capitalism-and-sanctions-on-russia/ He said he would stop commenting here because it was taking too much of his time, and his 179 comments in the link above make that seem quite honest.

Pax Imperialis says:

KD was obviously sincere, our Jewish fellow not so much

alf says:

Are you seeking core tenets of reaction or jimian christianity? They are different.

Reaction is a more general movement. As cominator says, reaction is quite literally a reaction to a current situation that’s not working, and looking towards the past for what was working. What exactly from the past works, well, we have many agreements, but a lot of variance too.

Jimian christianity is a rather more specific movement within reaction. I am big advocate, since the problem with reaction is that just because you agree on what you disagree with, does not mean you agree on what you agree with.

Core tenets of jimian christianity:
– any effective rule consists of throne on top, checked by altar, upheld by freehold.
– hence, a king.
– hence, a faith. Christianity was that faith and should be that faith again.
– the biggest adaptive change to specifically jimian christianity is the emphasis on property rights in women. These form the basis for family forming and as an extension, civilisation forming.
– but obviously there’s more, such as the emphasis on Christ as the logos and thus the scientific method as an inherently Christian virtue.
– finally, an emphasis on cooperation. Cooperation is hard, defect-defect is a natural outcome. Jimian Christianity emphasizes Jesus’ teachings in the light of game theory, where Christians are obliged to walk the extra mile to enforce coop-coop outcomes. This is how we solve the faith cold start problem.

Also, a short word on the ‘why’ of altar: because purpose, identity, telos. Jc affirms fully the purpose laid out for Christians in the bible, and adds to this that with the advent of space travel, God clearly intends for us to become a spacefaring species. Our destiny is to conquer the stars.

Karl says:

The main points of Reactionarism would be something like a generalisation and abstraction of Jimian Christianity. What would be the point? If you want to use some points as a primer to improve the present situation, you must add religion. If you do that, it is no longer general. Christian reaction is different from Hindu reaction.

In the points you proposed, there was nothing about god and religion. I had thought about a suitable addition, but didn’t find anything concrete. I suspect that it is impossible to add religion to your points and still keep it general in that it will apply a reactionary from every culture and religion.

Anon says:

this article is interesting
The Lost Generation
not because the content, it is about DEI, it the timing , like a switch it started 2014-2015, it was always there before but became more intense after 2008, obama election.

there are clearly coordination , some committee somewhere decided and implemented across all the World , not the west only.

The Cominator says:

It did not start in 2015 white men at entry level were being massively discriminated against by at least the early 2000s and probably as early as the mid 90s, and there was milder discrimination as early as the Griggs vs Duke Power ruling and disparate impact. Also we know that the original real estate crisis while it had many causes was caused in large part because the government was insisting banks make quotas of DEI mortgage loans.

Anon says:

Yes
But after 2014 it was everywhere all at once , before , it was under mask but after 2014 the mask fell.
I am wondering about the uniformity.
Early on was groups and organizations from Harvard and co.
But after 2014 it was the state.
I remember quote by Aidan , ideas had time between Harvard and state enforcement , but this time collapsed which why everyone become disoriented by the constant changing required belief.
All this to say is there are two model of the cathedral, one by moldbug in which the cathedral is a distributed network organize synapticly. The second is Jim , there are a hierarchical structure with committee on top somewhere that make decision and it enforced down the hierarchy.
Somethings point to one and others to second.
The failure of trump is that there are no concrete answer to this.

The Cominator says:

1. It was always the state.
2. There wasn’t much of a mask since at least the early 2000s and maybe the mid 90s but they also didn’t publicize it so much. It was also not as sweeping in impact (though I would not use the word limited) since they eventually had to hire more white males in the 90s and early 2000s since there weren’t enough nonwhites around (and women only wanted certain jobs).

Anon says:

“ It was always the state.”
Disagree, trump is in control of the state “mostly”.
Yet judiciary, media,NGOs and Universities
all out of his control, which why he is failing.
Every time a cuckservative president take control of the state , he stop the left drift and do the mildest node to right side. Yet the left drift continue.
It show the state is power but not necessary in control. Those who decide the faith are in control.
The things most interesting about the article for me.
Is how institutions and prestige are tied to actual talent and ability.
The moment straight white men stoped being a significant group in Media, Hollywood , government . These institutions went to hell in a hand basket.
Especially with most of these young white men are true believers in GAE.

As said in the article these young white men went into podcasts, crypto and blogosphere.
Ironically it was underground reaction is the winner.
So instead of 20 something white guy writing 10 thousand word in New York time about the evil of white people.
He is making video anthology celebrates Rhodesia.
It was truly the biggest fuck up by the cathedral.

The Cominator says:

It started with affirmative action and worse “disparate impact” (one reason you know the conservative movement was phony is that they were more interested in overturning Roe v Wade than Griggs vs Duke Power) its just simply a fact that it was always the state.

Pax Imperialis says:

Andrew, for his part, was unable to adopt the performative allyship that had become expected. “I always thought I was an effeminate nerd growing up… but my way of expressing myself now puts me on the most masculine end of men in media,” he told me. “I started to pick up on the fact that there wasn’t much room for people who even speak in my timbre.’”

Not surprising with everything we’ve seen in the last few decades, but still amazingly fucked up.

Only way I was able to find an engineering job post-grad was to find a government directorate that hadn’t been touched by DEI, which existed by shear anonymity from being tucked away behind layers and layers of obscure technical jargon and bureaucracy. An absolute rarity back in the late 2010s. Getting hired there was kinda funny in hindsight. The GS admin guy would just automatically stamp ‘white’ on all the new hire’s demographic sheet and not bother to actually look at the guys sitting across from him. I knew many, who were by all means much more qualified than me because I was quite lazy back then, who never managed to get a job in any engineering field. The only ones I heard about getting jobs at Google or any of the other big names were women. Hell, even the guy who was smarter than any of my high school cohort that went to MIT/Harvard/etc didn’t find a job and he could roughly solve extremely complicated differential equations he’d never seen before in his head, a walking Wolfram Alpha. Makes me wonder what eventually happened to my graduate cohort.

The Cominator says:

Pax where is this from?

Pax Imperialis says:

I fucked up the blockquote, forgot the /. First paragraph is from the article posted. Rest is my experience job hunting post grad school

The Cominator says:

The NGO network etc are an arm of the state and in fact supported by the state, they are just outside the control of the President but hell the agencies under the president some of them are outside the control of the president (especially the Justice Department and the FBI). I guess you could argue they are something akin to the Catholic Church at the height of their power which is sort of what Moldbug did by defining them as part of the “Cathedral”. Still they had the implicit backing of the de jure state until very recently via affirmative action and “disparate impact”.

Contaminated NEET says:

>Disagree, trump is in control of the state “mostly”.

No, he’s not. I work for the state (well, a State), and I can tell you, Trump is not in control at all.

>But NEET, I’m talking about the Feds!

Sure, OK, maybe it’s a little better at the Federal level. Maybe. But every Federal agency is still 90% staffed with people who despise Trump, Republicans, the Right, Whites, males, Christians, etc. At very best, they will obstruct, ignore, and slow-walk anything they don’t like while they wait for the merely elected government to drift away on the next tide.

The Cominator says:

You mean its a case of how many federal employees have indicted they plan to comply with Trump’s directives the next February 30th…

Pax Imperialis says:

The men with the guns have his back. See what happened with USAID? And that was armed civilian employees. The military has bigger guns. Trump’s problem isn’t control, it’s willingness to pull the trigger for actual reform.

Contaminated NEET says:

Do they, though? People keep pointing to this one minor battle that we won months ago in a war that we lost. Where is DOGE now? Why did Elon run away with his tail between his legs? He saw that he had picked a fight he wasn’t going to win.

Jim says:

> > See what happened with USAID?

> one minor battle that we won months ago in a war that we lost

Not lost. The key USAID players have self deported to Canada and Europe, where they still have the upper hand, but are fighting battles that they are losing.

Jim says:

> every Federal agency is still 90% staffed with people who despise Trump, Republicans, the Right, Whites, males, Christians, etc. At very best, they will obstruct, ignore, and slow-walk anything they don’t like while they wait for the merely elected government to drift away on the next tide.

Oh, I would put that at 98%

But, not every federal agency. Trump and Maga has the federal marshals, has Ice, has the fighting part of the military, and the logistics part of the military is merely about eighty or ninety percent dedicated to the destruction of Trump, maga, whites, males, Christians, etc.

But, to apply the parts of the federal government that Maga controls to fixing the parts of the state and quasi state apparatus that it does not control, and in particular and especially Harvard, Thermidorians are not enough. It is going to have empower actual reactionaries to do the dirty work against the left. This has been the way things have run in every past Thermidor.

Trump and Maga is full of people who think the left is morally superior, merely unwise, foolish, and excessively extreme in the pursuit of virtue. To purge the left, Maga needs reaction, needs an apparatus of people who from top to bottom see the left as demented, evil, and as adherents of an ancient demonic religion that worships ancient demons under new postmodern names.

Cromwell, a moderate, appointed Monck, a reactionary. This worked. Anything less is going to have a rocky road ahead.

You have to bring a gun to a gunfight and a faith to a holy war. Most government and quasi governmental agencies are full of weird disgusting people full of burning and passionate demonic faith. They are holy warriors, and can only be defeated by holy warriors.

You, Contaminated Neet, have, like much of Maga, no faith, so you can see no path to victory against these holy warriors. I, who have faith the size of a mustard seed, do see a path to victory. It has been walked before, it can be walked again.

This is why I keep saying 1660, 1660, 1660. That was the last time the English speaking world walked this path, the path to victory.

Jim says:

> Trump is not in control at all.

There are a lot of illegals, deported and self deported, who would disagree, plus I am hearing screams of pain from Harvard.

Plus we just nailed one judge for criminal conduct. Of course that is a rather small start, ninety percent of judges should be doing ten to twenty, but I am sure Judge Hannah Dugan thinks that Trump has at least some control.

Jim says:

That leftism gets ever lefter, ever faster, is not a decision by a small committee that meets around a coffee table. Rather it is broad diffuse effect of no enemies to the left, no friends to the right. The never ending power struggles within the left imposes ever greater leftism on that small committee at the top that meets around a coffee table.

Which small committee from time to time issues decisions that are abruptly imposed on every government and every professor everywhere in the Global American Empire.

So power is both diffuse, and also top down and centralised.

The power that drives ever lefter, ever faster, is broadly distributed throughout state and quasi state institutions, and in the revolving door between regulators and regulated. Implementation of this ever lefter agenda is in the hands of a very small number of people, maybe half a dozen or so, but this caste of characters is ever changing, continually threatened from below and by each other. And to head off the threat from ever lefter beneath them and the ever lefter among them, each of them must go ever lefter.

Jim says:

As far back as I can remember, and I can remember a long way back, DEI was pervasive brutal, arrogant, incompetent, destructive, and immensely disruptive. As for example the 2008 financial crisis was partly a result of brown bankers simply losing track of the bank’s assets, and mostly a result of loans being made to browns and single women with no income, no job, and no assets. Gays have been a large and increasing problem within organisations and corporations since the late seventies.

What happened is just that it became steadily more extreme, with 2014 being no more a special date than any other. Back in the late seventies, most people were not impacted that much. And more and more official victims got in on the gravy train, with the benefits ever more generous, everyone was impacted.

In the late seventies, things were horrifyingly bad. In the eighties they got worse, in the nineties worse still, and in the noughts, this manifested as the great financial crisis. And stuff just went downhill from there.

A roaring wildfire burns one area, then it burns another. What happened was that one area of society after another would become dei infested. Different institutions and businesses came under the eye of Sauron at different times.

The Cominator says:

https://x.com/bronzeagemantis/status/2002473114152939644
BAP gives numbers on how bad it was for elite aspirants probably since the 90s. It started getting really really bad for entry level jobs in any field that paid anything and wasn’t a trade in at least the 2000s I know because I was there.

Pax Imperialis says:

Yes Jim, it was bad back then, but it was survivable for the majority going by the stories I heard from older guys in the work force. There was an exponential curve in how bad it got during the 2000s, and then it got more exponential in the 2010s. Before I ‘deleted’ my facebook account, not a single one out of a couple dozen of my white friends who went engineering in college landed an engineering job in ~5 years post graduation, in contrast, my feed was full of girlbossing ‘engineers’ (who btw none had prior internships or advanced degrees) bitching about how some of the older engineers asked if their father was an engineer (because that assumed her mother wasn’t or something) or some other bullshit. Most of my friends were smart as hell, smarter than me. I was the dumb lazy guy among them with only a ~130 IQ and a learning disability. So if they couldn’t find jobs, shit is broken. I landed an engineering job purely due to family knowledge of one of the few last places in the government that didn’t give a damn about DEI.

Contrast this situation of no one getting hired to Gen Xers who, in many cases landed jobs by knocking on the front door unannounced, no appointment required. These days you’d had a hard time even getting a fucking haircut without scheduling an appointed. Do you know how fucking miserable it is to apply to hundreds of online job offerings and never hearing back, then finding out those job listings were never open in the first place because companies already decided they wanted strong independent Karen or Shanqua?

It did not become steadily more extreme, there was a sudden, jarring, decision to go from one pink hair bitch in the workplace that everyone could roll their eyes about in the 80s to early 2000s, to total testosterone death around late 2000s to 2010s.

The Cominator says:

Engineering was probably the one field where anti white (+male) racism was more of a killer than anti white male sexism since not too many women wanted to be engineers whereas a lot of fraudsters from the Punjab wanted to get setup with fake credentials and hired by their co caste people.

I’m sure there were a lot of incompetent girlboss engineers (I’m glad to say the enginerette I used to flirt with who works for an aircraft engine company, nothing they’ve made has crashed yet unlike Boeing… so shes probably not TOTALLY incompetent, also zero girlboss attitude so she probably doesn’t feel like she has to prove how much smarter she is then the men or something. But she actually seemed gifted she got straight A’s in mechanical engineering despite apparently having the time to be out 5 nights a week) but by the numbers the Punjabi flood was worse.

Pax Imperialis says:

>Engineering was probably the one field where anti white (+male) racism was more of a killer than anti white male sexism since not too many women wanted to be engineers

Google just about any college engineering faculty list and you’ll find most of the younger assistant professors are women, hard to become a professor if your not on that track. Many of the older professors are foreigners from the middle east or europe. There are a lot of obviously foreign Chinese as well. Here’s Caltech for example which demographically has a pretty similar line up to my “Top 50” college.

https://www.ee.caltech.edu/people/faculty

Granted, my peer group was all trying to go into academia, so not the average job hunting experience, but there’s obviously a bias against them.

A2 says:

“In a historic milestone for Caltech, the incoming undergraduate class will comprise 50% women. The class of 2028 is the first to reach gender parity since the Institute began admitting female undergraduates in 1970, and includes 113 women and 109 men, according to admissions data.” (Aug 1, 2024)

https://www.caltech.edu/about/news/incoming-class-50-percent-female

(As a sign of the times to come, that’s actually 51%.) So, doomed to mediocrity, but I’m sure the skin suit feels nice.

Cloudswrest says:

Griggs v. Duke Power Co. doesn’t apply in Russia.

It would be very entertaining to see the reaction of the Left if Russia successfully started mass recruiting heritage American engineering talent! I think the elite would start shitting bricks because:

1. There is a leak on their suppression of heritage American talent.

2. The American brain drain would immensely help Russia at the expense of the West.

Anon says:

That what happening with British white pilots being recruited by china to train their Air Force.
British gov are trying to ban it.
But it kinda hard with “diversity goal”
It hilarious seeing them seethe as the pilot are getting 500k plus in china while the RAF air planes are literally rusting as there are no pilot.
The thing about pilot jobs, is that it can’t be faked like office administration jobs, you can have diversity in the cockpit but there must be white man to babysit.

A2 says:

I have landed just about all my jobs, not by arriving unannounced with a firm handshake but through personal contacts, first seeded by being seen as a promising guy by the elders at university. But what if my initial spot had been taken by a strong, independent woman of color?

Jim says:

In the great minority mortgage meltdown, the conscious intent was to weight income, assets, and credit rating by race, sex, and sexual orientation. But inevitably, what happened in practice, is that race, sex, and sexual orientation replaced income, assets, and credit rating, so you had a huge number of very large loans made to complete deadbeats, the infamous ninja loans, where an unemployed alcoholic no-hablo-english illegal immigrant would buy a multi million dollar mansion.

When, inevitably, the ninja loans went bad, they were flipped to straw men, mortgagors who probably did not exist. Bad loans made to dei mortgagors were covered by fraudulent loans made by dei bankers.

Cloudswrest says:

As far back as I can remember, and I can remember a long way back

Jesse Helms “Hands” ad from 35 years ago. It drew condemnation.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIyewCdXMzk

I remember a college roommate from 1983 feverishly campaigning against Jesse Helms. Helms was alt-right before alt-right existed.

Anon says:

Yes
But after 2014 it was everywhere all at once , before , it was under mask but after 2014 the mask fell.
I am wondering about the uniformity.
Early on was groups and organizations from Harvard and co.
But after 2014 it was the state.
I remember quote by Aidan , ideas had time between Harvard and state enforcement , but this time collapsed which why everyone become disoriented by the constant changing required belief.
All this to say is there are two model of the cathedral, one by moldbug in which the cathedral is a distributed network organize synapticly. The second is Jim , there are a hierarchical structure with committee on top somewhere that make decision and it enforced down the hierarchy.
Somethings point to one and others to second.
The failure of trump is that there are no concrete answer to this.

Contaminated NEET says:

Yes. No Federal nomenklatura with any sense or any desire for a future career is doing anything the Trump administration directs if it’s remotely controversial. Bureaucrats have 10,000 ways to delay and obstruct all while following procedure and doing nothing actionable. But even that undersells it, because the higher ranking bureaucrats who would punish them for blatantly actionable insubordination or defiance have the same values and face the same incentives, and therefore would never dream of punishing them. And so on for their superiors, etc., etc.

The only way to beat this is to imitate Akhenaton, Louis XIV, or Peter the Great: make a new capital and a start fresh with a new bureaucracy, loyal to you. The Great Orange Boomer has not got the balls, the vision, or the strength to do this. The last guy who did was FDR, and he was on the other side.

Jim says:

> The only way to beat this is to imitate Akhenaton, Louis XIV, or Peter the Great: make a new capital and a start fresh with a new bureaucracy, loyal to you.

This tactic is good against an entrenched and overly powerful bureaucracy. Which is serious and ever growing long term problem, but it does not work against demon worshipping holy warriors, who are our immediate and urgent problem.

Louis XIV gained power in the short term, but the long term consequence of his actions was the destruction of his dynasty and the death of his grandchildren.

Note that Hitler and Cromwell beat this without forming a new capital. They had men of faith, holy warriors.

Lacking faith, the faith of our enemies is invisible to you. To you it is just facts. “All men are created equal.”

Think about the immense destruction caused by female emancipation, desegregation, and abolition of apartheid. Women and blacks were terribly damaged by these measures, just as men and whites were. The inferior need supervision and control by the superior — and frequently need a whipping for their own good.

Anonymous Fake says:

We have never seen any elected conservative exclusively hire red after winning an election and moving to the capital. [*deleted for all the usual reasons. Try taking the shill test

Jim says:

Trump has exclusively hired Maga for those jobs that he is able to control. Which is not many. He has also set up a Whitehouse in exile around Mar-a-Lago — he is avoiding moving to the capital as far as is possible. The important actions tend to happen in Mar-a-Lago, and are then formalised at the Whitehouse.

Lexei says:

I live in Russia, [*Do you?*]

Jim says:

Your IP address reads as Stockholm, Sweden. Which could be a vpn I suppose, though in theory the sanctions ban Russians from subscribing to European vpns, lest those dreaded Russian trolls influence European elections.

But if you do live in Russia, should be easy for you to pass the shill test of the moderation policy.

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