The Global American Empire thought sanctions would ruin Russia. Still think that, though they now think it will take a little longer. Formerly talking weeks, now talking years.
The Russian economy has, according to statistics, been knocked down ten or twenty percent. Seeing a Youtuber chatting to Russians on the ground, sounds roughly accurate. The question is, is it, like the ruble, bouncing back, or going over a cliff? The ruble bounce back came as a shock to the Global American Empire, and they are still in denial, though the denial is getting mighty thin. I rather think that the effect of sanctions on the Russian economy is going to be similar, is already becoming similar.
The effect of the sanctions has been to impose National Capitalism on Russia from outside.
A modest dose of national capitalism worked great for the Trump economy. It spectacularly industrialized South Korea.
National Capitalism defined
National Capitalism is self sufficiency in the organization of people for production, and self sufficiency in the skills and equipment needed for production, that relies on internal free markets and supports local businessmen.
If your people are being organized for production under a businessman subject to a foreign sovereign, that foreign sovereign is going to make him pursue the interests of that sovereign rather than your sovereign, such as exporting his state religion to you, and the interests of that sovereign’s people, not your people.
If the skills and equipment needed for producing one thing are in your country, rather than in a foreign country, production of that thing has large beneficial externalities, making it easier for others of your people to produce other things, creating opportunity and incentive for the talented among your people. These externalities are not part of the profit and loss of the business, so businesses are apt to make decisions to offshore stuff where the offshoring has harmful externalities onshore. And if the business is run by a foreigner subject to a foreign corporate headquarters, he is going to keep critical skills and equipment close to his foreign headquarters. Hence close to a foreign sovereign, and far from your people, who are thus unable to take advantage of those skills and equipment to compete with that business, or start other businesses producing related products.
So how is this working out for Russia
A builder in the middle of a one horse town found that nails and screws were unobtainable or absurdly expensive, because they had formerly been imported from the west. He also found that metals, which had formerly been exported to the west, were now considerably cheaper.
According to Global America Economists, that builder is now going to stop building. And for a little while he did stop building. What he did instead of building was go to China and buy a self contained computer controlled machine that turns metal into nails and screws, and now he is back to building, and also in the business of selling nails and screws.
If millions of Russians are doing something similar, then the short term effect is that the sanctions will have rapidly diminishing impact, and the long term effect will be to create Russian skills and jobs repairing, maintaining, upgrading, and eventually building those machines.
Similarly when the McDonalds franchise pulled out of Russia. The former franchisees organized a new franchise, and their burger joints ripped down their McDonald’s signs and put up the new signs. They also renamed, and slightly altered, their menu. Which means that Russians are a whole lot less likely to be forced to watch black people, mixed race couples, transexuals, and faggots, eating burgers on television.
[…] At https://blog.reaction.la/economics/national-capitalism-and-sanctions-on-russia/ some of us had a debate about the role of sincerely held beliefs among leftists, particularly in the left’s internal power struggles. At first the debate shed rather more heat than light, but it was ultimately worth it because it culminated in the following very good comment from the blog proprietor. […]
“The UK @DefenceHQ / @RoyalAirForce push for years to have fewer white men in their ranks, and so now they’re trying to appeal to “honour” and “patriotism” to stop Absolute Mad Lads from training Chinese pilots for £240k a year.”
https://twitter.com/lndian_Bronson/status/1582353384887046150
Lol. The Chinese are in general not averse to hiring foreign expertise, so not surprising (except to woke fools?). It could be called a tactic of theirs.
https://indianbronson.substack.com/p/how-to-enlist-the-right-way
“But compared to the rewards of a steady paycheck, the Tricare health plan, educational opportunities and other ancillary benefits, that might be worth it.”
Ah yes, The Tricare “health plan.”
>Early 2022
>Be deathly ill and in a near comatose state of fatigue with constant chronic pain during the few hours awake
>”We lost your orders, you’ll have to wait for command to redo them before you can get medical care”
>3 months latter “We have your orders and have sent them to a different branch of the military, you’ll have to get care through them due to the remote location you’re currently located at.”
>Another 2 months pass and at a different command’s medical group: “We don’t have your orders on file, please ask your command to resend”
>Another month passes “We actually did have your orders but because our computer system has been glitched since it’s creation we couldn’t see that we had your orders so you’ll have to coordinate between our two offices (the one that can see and the one that can’t) so we know what’s going on” Those two offices are in the same damn hallway…
>It’s been 6 months and now I’m 95% recovered. Do I really need healthcare at this point? I finally get to see a doctor… who promptly refers me to a civilian doctor off base.
>At month 8 I finally get my “healthcare” which amounts to about a $1000 medical test to confirm I’ve recovered, minus the chronic pain that the doctor, off the record, suspects is nerve damage. Nerve damage wasn’t in the original orders so I can’t get medical care for it.
>At month 9 I get a bill and a letter in the mail from the civilian medical provider because “Tricare states there are no orders on file, you have to contact them to reprocess your claim so you don’t get billed for it”
>I also received a letter from DoD about my benefits being terminated retroactively before I got health care, and then another letter about those same benefits being terminated effectively after I got care. Even DoD doesn’t know what’s going on.
>Remember that glitched computer system… Tricare must use the same contractors because they did have my paperwork on file on a system they could not see my paperwork. Btw it’s now been nearly 11 months.
Almost 11 months of bureaucratic hell. By my estimate the bureaucracy cost somewhere around $145,000 based on number of people involved and man hours spent.
Now you might think that this is a fluke, and indeed this might have been one of the bigger fuck ups, but when surveys indicate being uninsured might be better than Tricare…
https://www.fiercehealthcare.com/payer/tricare-families-report-worse-access-than-commercially-insured-uninsured
Bronson is horrendously out of date in regards to the sheer free fall the military is in. This includes the benefits programs. Bronson observed that it’s the white (competent) farmboys who end up in combat arms. He didn’t seem to register what that implies about where the diversity ends up. It’s all in admin. All in the benefits programs. Logistics/acquisitions is still “competent,” but that’s changing fast as the nearly entirely white DoD civilian workforce which underpins all direct military logistics is aging into retirement.
Some VA locations are great, but those are the exceptions from what I hear.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggUduBmvQ_4
Broke: ‘these corporate hucksters are making money out of nothing!’
Woke: ‘the USD based financial system is so pernicious, huge value is gained by going around it’.
>”I love to live in a normal economic system in which every major company providing an essential service turns into a bank, a police force, and a lobbying business.”
As civilization disintegrates (is made to disintegrate), anyone trying to do anything finds it increasingly necessary to recreate more and more of civilization in miniature.
Hey Jim, I can’t see it clearly myself, but could there be a parallel or pattern, in the past, present or anticipated future, that completes the analogy
USA-Vietnam : Tet Offensive :: GAE-Russia : ___?
Something to do with how real-world events can be selectively spun to look like something else entirely, and how it’s the spinning that decides actual events and history. A horrifying but real phenomenon.
Here’s my best guess:
Russia can’t pull a Tet Offensive, actually, because the media on our side, over here, is pro-GAE, so if Putin’s men did something awesome and brave, if ultimately unsuccessful, our media would either point and laugh at them or just ignore it altogether.
But maybe it’s different on the Russian side. Surely much of their media, over there, is anti-Russian and anti-Christian, so some wild move by the GAE, like a nuclear first strike mass-murdering multiple Slavic and Orthodox cities in 4K on YouTube (via Starlink, because of course) would have them all musing “Wow, these guys are really serious! I guess we just can’t win this one, and it’d be downright immoral for us to try. Imagine all… the people…”
That’s what I was thinking. Our equivalent would be dissident right media siding with Putin — which they’re pretty much already doing. It is somewhat effective, but nothing compared to the late sixties Cathedral media.
On Russia’s side a fifth column media seems more likely. Through my normie friends I hear occasional stories of how Russian media is supposedly standing up to evil dictator Putin. Difficult to judge how much is propaganda.
When the Cathedral sees freedom of speech in Russia, they cannot comprehend it, since no freedom of speech here.
Vietnam was a war fought inside the USA between GAE-Americans and the remnants of the US Anti-Communist movement (which had previously been the pro-Nazi America First movement).
Loss of Vietnam was basically the point at which Anti-Communism died, being replaced on the furthest right by Trotskyite Neo-Conservatives. Neocons being ultimately inside the GAE faction, not outside it, as demonstrated by rehabilitation of Bush etc.
Americans need to get over using Vietnam and Munich as the analogy for everything. Not just because not everything is analogous to those things, but because Americans don’t even know what happened in those events.
Question for the historians here. We’ve talked about the drop in elite reproduction, and reproduction in general due to different factors.
My question is about the literacy rate among elite females, as well as commoners. When did literacy become the norm for women? I think it is an enormous mistake to argue with females about what is in the Bible, but also it is obvious that females jump to the Bible and religion for power in greater numbers than men. And men have a difficult time defending their position.
Given how difficult it is for anyone to understand the Bible, and how enthusiastically women will jump to any conclusion to support the feminine imperative I would think the literacy rate among females would be correlated to a drop in fertility.
Not my impression at all. Women will not argue the bible with you. They accept a man as authoritative if their pussy says so.
80/20 rule. Women will argue what’s in the Bible with most men. Most men will not be adequately able to defend their position. Also mothers will not hesitate to condition their sons accordingly.
I can’t ever remember arguing about the bible with a woman.
What’s your experiences with it?
Mostly just shit tests, women trying to manipulate me. Not hard to pass. But every church I’ve ever been to the men were in lock step with the women. The men just ate up everything the women said about the Bible. My theory is just a guess, intuition. I could be projecting my experience.
I’m smart among normies, average for these parts. In the past I’ve found it hard to argue my (our) position on the Bible. It’s a tough book. Mostly I just point to the obvious verses that support patriarchy, etc. Same as everyone here.
I’m very aware of what a women will go through for alpha. But that’s not going to be most mens experience. Not to mention the bullshit mothers tell their sons. My guess is female literacy played an important part, specifically due to females taking up the Bible, on increasing the power of the feminine imperative. I do not have any data to back that up just intuition.
It’s been a long time since I’ve been to a church. Women would talk about a lot of stuff, but was relationship stuff, gossip, or holiness signaling but never about a biblical text with a man.
It’s just not in my experience. So I doubt literacy has anything to do with your experience, since I didn’t observe it and I went to close to 30 different churches as a kid and young adult. More likely you’re experiencing churches full of weak men with Women trying to take on the male role and the men simping for female attention. Sunday morning only fans dot com!
I may have to swing by my local church to see what it’s like now.
My mother would pretty much believe whatever a man said in a book. But I have a weak father. Pretty much everything a woman says came from a man, so it doesn’t surprise me that my mother would think things that stronger men said. I spent a lot of time debating the crap she found in books, but it’s pointless to debate a woman, they don’t really debate.
But one of those books wasn’t the bible. She would express things that others said about the bible, but quoting scripture was my father’s job.
This has simply never happened to me. And I cannot even imagine a woman arguing me about what is in the bible. They could argue with me about what is in the bible over the internet, but it would be psychologically impossible to for a woman to argue the bible with me in person. Even if she is a progressive pastor in a progressive Church.
There is a sexual dynamic to Christianity – God the father, Church is the bride of Christ, the Bible speaks to men and of women. If that flow is running though a man, a woman cannot argue the Christian faith with him.
Yet it is obvious the progressive interpretation of the Bible is hostile to the mating dance and family formation. And that position is the position of nearly every Christian church.
It is obvious that women use the Bible to manipulate men, as well as men. Yes it is just another shit test. But given the nature of the Bible, has it been used with success by women disproportionately to other methods? My guess is yes.
If you say no, female literacy and the Bible has had no effect on fertility, then I don’t have anything to argue, I don’t have any data. It’s just a hunch and thought it was worth the question.
I’d really like to see this is action. I can’t even imagine it, it’s so foreign to my expedience.
Dalrock goes into plenty of detail on his blog https://dalrock.wordpress.com. He does not post anymore but he covered feminism and Christianity in great detail. Excellent blog, I read it for a couple of years before I found Jim’s blog.
According to Wikipedia the printing press was invented in 1440, and reached North America in the 1600s due to a demand in Bibles. That coincides a little bit with the rise of Harvard.
This line of questioning started a couple weeks ago, I was listening to a Jordan Peterson podcast. He was talking about having to stop mentoring females some years ago, him and fellow male professors, for fear of the consequences of false allegations. But also that it was a shame, because females seek out competent male mentors and it can be a very positive and rewarding bond.
That got me thinking about my ex-wife. She’s very feminine but also has that a streak in her that wants to be a man. She’s always trying to do things for herself, trying to be the alpha male, and a big reason she succeeds is that she is always learning from myself and from her brothers. Not things like fixing cars. Things like running her little business.
The thing about entropy is it’s always happening, even this very moment, and nobody notices it. Your metabolism is entropy. But sometimes it’s not always slow. Sometimes it speeds up. So I’m trying to tie all this together, looking at the Bible, looking at how we as men can be fooled, looking at females perpetual lust for power, and just looking at what fits. Looking at our possible failures and what we need to do better.
A wonderful and very informative blog. But everyone, including Dalrock, is apt to shy away from the darkest truths about women.
From an Old Testament perspective, there’s nothing intrinsically wrong about a woman running a small business – rather than undermining her husband’s authority over her, it would make her more useful to him.
The problem in today’s world is that people equate personal status with personal income, and expect the man to be the “breadwinner”. In THAT context, encouraging women to pursue high-salary careers undermines male authority. But the people who want a woman to spend her best years climbing the corporate ladder would not be happy about her instead running her own small business, under the authority of her husband.
The progressive interpretation of what the bible says about sex, is the bible with the double standard corrected and the sexual valence of the bible erased. “God the father and mother“. If that sexual valence speaks through you, no one can pretend their position is biblically based if they are interacting with you in person.
The progressive bible is the bible transsexed. Cannot stand against the actual bible.
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Transexualized Christianity runs and hides when confronted by actual Christianity.
Try arguing that Christians aren’t supposed to be circumcised and see how far you get. I do suppose women think with their pussies, as you put it. And just like the bible says.
Even trained professional women like judges will never argue about written texts simply because they do not care about the texts. They care about people, which isn’t bad in itself, but the consistent catch is that they think the lowest of men who do care about texts.
Who are you needing to argue this with?
Long, but excellent article on Russia and the GAE.
Goes into some Jimian themes like whether our nukes even work anymore.
https://cirno.substack.com/p/russia-will-not-use-nuclear-weapons
Super intresting.
So refreshing to see someone else mention this. The evidence presented about on this blog has been pretty damning, but I not seen it mentioned at lot else where.
Very good commenters too:
This strikes me as unrealistic optimism. US is incapable of making a deal. War will continue, one thing will lead to another thing, things will escalate one way or another way, sooner or later.
Limited wars are fought for limited stakes, but what limits the stakes? It is that both sides observe certain rules and certain limits. One by one these limits will fall by the wayside, and the stakes will get higher and higher.
That outcome is unlikely, but I could see an internal coup that tells the war faction to STFU while they surrender Ukraine to Russia. Peace wouldn’t last long as the war faction would quickly try to restart the war, but it might be enough to collapse the GAE. Russia would look much the stronger horse after that, and our Anti-American empire would come tumbling down.
Jim, what’s your take on Russia’s nuclear tsunami drones? I get the idea, but it would actually work?
Maybe, needs testing.
The question is, can the energy of a nuclear bomb efficiently couple to a tsunami wave?
There has been one test of an underwater nuclear explosion, it was at a quite shallow depth, and nearly all the energy was dissipated in throwing highly radioactive water five thousand feet in the air. If you want to damage stuff some distance away, that is not going to do much harm, except to ships a short distance away.
Because there is a lot of water in the ocean, the radiation, the heat, and the blast would all be completely suppressed if the bomb is detonated at depth. Would it dissipate in heating a very large amount of water, or would some of it be coupled into a wave capable causing damage? Likely the efficiency of coupling would depend rather strongly on ocean depth, and the depth at which it was detonated, on how far down the rocks were below, and how far up the air was above.
I rather suspect that unless you want to blow up some ships from below, not going to do much harm. Good for taking out a carrier, not necessarily much use in attacking coastal cities.
It is hard to predict how it would go. My bet would be that it is only likely to be useful as an anti ship weapon, but we will not know until it is tested.
There’s been at least one deep water test (2000′), meant to test anti-submarine effects. Operation Wigwam.
There are two visible surface effects.
The first effect is when the sonic shock wave reaches the surface, whereupon is spalls a bunch of water a few hundred feet into the air.
The second effect is when the steam bubble reaches the surface, and it reaches maybe 1000′ into the air. This was a bomb in the low two digit Kiloton range.
https://youtu.be/fYUNAFVIAK8?t=524
In certain circles, nuclear torpedoes were known as a “2 kill” weapon system: you were guaranteed to kill the target, and the vessel that launched it. This is from long ago, maybe things have changed.
Russia’s new nuclear torpedos are nuclear powered as well as nuclear armed. They have arbitrary range. The can cross the entire ocean. They are like under water ICBMs. They’re nuclear powered drones.
Not necessarily a “tsunami bomb”. Seems like it can do plenty of normal bomb damage if it goes into a port and blows up, not to mention enemy fleets of ships. The west might be reading it wrong as a strategic nuke when it might just be a tactical nuke.
No efficient coupling to tsunami.
Therefore, not a useful countervalue weapon, not useful against coastal cities. Useful against enemy carriers and enemy nuclear submarines.
It could be very nasty against coastal cities if you set it off beneath the docks. That much pressure and then the steam would really fuck up the port infrastructure.
The Russian Poseidon torpedo supposedly has a yield of up to 60 Megatons. This is Tsar Bomba territory. Since this bomb is not delivered by air (either missile or aircraft) there is little weight restriction, so it can be loaded up with reactant fuel. Furthermore, since it is designed to explode deep underwater, there is effectively infinite tamper holding the reactants together for the lifetime of the reaction, so it’s possible the fusion/fission reaction is potentially more fuel efficient compared to an air burst.
Not tsunami bomb, just a regular bomb. And if it explodes a short distance away in shallow water or on the surface then everything within eight kilometers is going to get smashed up, and lots of stuff within fifty kilometers is going to get set on fire.
Everyone in line of sight of the fireball and within fifty kilometers range is going to get severe burns that are likely to be fatal, but most people will not be in line of sight. Depending on the balance between lithium deuteride and depleted uranium, there is likely to be a great deal of fallout. Fallout gets exaggerated a lot, but fallout from very large bombs like this one is likely to be a much bigger proportion of the harmful effects than it was with Hiroshima and Nagasaki, so they are not just blowing smoke.
To destroy an enemy fleet, detonate at depth so that the shock wave in the water smashed up the ship hulls. To destroy port cities, detonate on the surface in the port, or as close to the port as you are likely to safely get.
Enormous nuclear bombs do not cost a lot more than regular sized nuclear bombs, it is the delivery systems that are a problem, because enormous nuclear bombs are a lot bigger and heavier than regular bombs. But a nuclear power torpedo can carry a lot of mass, so it makes sense to give them enormous bombs
@Cloudswrest
If those nuclear propelled, nuclear armed Russian Poseidon torpedos pan out, that’s going to spell the end of US submarine military superiority.
Given the unlimited range of the torpedoes, the launch submarines can just park themselves somewhere under the North Polar icecap, eliminating the ability of surface ships to hunt for them. Attacking the US West coast may be difficult from there due to the narrowness of the Bering Straight, making detection of transiting torpedoes perhaps easier, but the open ocean between Greenland, Iceland and the British Isles (or even sneaking through Baffin Bay) makes detection more problematic for the East Coast.
https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/2021/06/russias-gigantic-submarine-belgorod-sails-for-the-first-time/
Undead Odalisque’s gebneral Twitter account has been reinstated. I didn’t dig to see if the particular offending “feminine beauty” thread was also.
It’s back up, for now. Here it is: https://mobile.twitter.com/EvilVizier/status/1471730149041213442
Thanks! I was unfamiliar with this poster.
With the mid terms coming up in about 3 weeks I’m going to vote just a straight R ticket. I expect them to rig the fuck out of the midterms just like they did with the abortion vote in Kansas, but the more last minute votes they have to print up, the less legitimacy they’ll have. I expect them to be even sloppier about it than they were in 2020.
@Red
Voting straight R too. If Satan ran as GOP, I will vote for Satan, because the nigger democrat party is the Greater Satan.
I give it a 50/50 chance of rigging being successful.
The GAE USG is now beginning to be met with physical military violence from Russia and China. So there might be some self-preservation instincts to avoid opening an internal front in this emerging WWIII.
But also, kikes, wine-aunts, and nigger faggots run much of ZOG, and are not noted for imagining the future beyond 15 seconds.
The most effective weapon on the internal front against the jew and the wine aunt of the system has been the Great Resignation
https://gab.com/kingofallnads/posts/109173519123866300
I’m straight voting R because I’m in Florida and in Florida the elections aren’t rigged in fact they probably are as clean as they’ve ever been. If I were in Georgia otoh I’d probably stay home.
The bad thing is I have to vote for that literal faggot cokehead cabana boy Marco Rubio.
How in any way is it defensible to support the outer party enabling influence, particularly him? You can’t plead ignorance, of his evil or the larger dynamic of uniparty mechanics. The single most deleterious factor facing conservatism, honesty, and restoration is the right wingers stubbornly refusing to accept that it is there participation that keeps the farce believable. The game is completely rigged, the refs are on the take, the opposing team follows no rules, and the only thing stopping the fans from burning down the stadium or disengaging completely is that the opposing team trudges out on the field for the millionth time, expecting a different result.
If every R withdrew, resigned, and stepped away, the uniparty would collapse overnight. If all right wingers stopped participating, it would take slightly longer but have the same result. I do not understand how anyone from this blog could continue to validate the artifice of feauxmocracy.
Nah they would just pass the build back 100x times better (for 100 trillion dollars) and mandatory gay sex and tranny draft act,
The Democrats had planned to abolish the GOP as soon as possible sometime in Obamas 2nd term anyway.
…so what happened? Why didn’t they abolish it?
they aren’t drafting random people for mandatory trannyism.. yet.
They needed the GOP to get rid of Trump. After which they returned to their normal programming that all Republicans are traitors and need to die.
This election is shaping up well, the Democrats are massively unpopular as the party of inflation, crime, and economic collapse. They have 3 choices: boldly rig it and thus destroy faith in Democracy and their legitimacy, false flag it/arrest trump and claim that swung the election when they rig it, or let the GOP win it.
Option 3 is very unpalatable despite the obvious tactical need for it. They would have to admit that the inner party’s policies are not popular and give up for now on eliminating the GOP.
I think they’ll go with option 1 or 2.
You need a straw man to strawman people. They talk about obliterating the RNC because it riles up the urban welfare queens and college kids, but, again, a uniparty structure requires both inner and outer parties to work.
The radical wing of the Democrats wants a single party state, as all radical socialists, communists, marxists, etc do. As the Octogenarian Faction departs, there may be a explicit shift to a single party system. But what is the supporting evidence that the Obama Regime and the DNC actually had a plan to eliminate the RNC?
When someone tells me they want to murder me, I believe them. When 10,000 voices all connected to one megaphone tells me the GOP are terrorists and should all be arrested, I believe them.
Go read /r/politics on reddit for a taste of what those Megaphones are saying. You won’t find a lick of difference between those shills and the shill message being spread all over the net for Dem consumption.
Why would they need to rile them up?
They used to think that hyper inflating the currency was a bad idea, but now they’ve discovered that it’s good progressive thing. They’ve decided the same is true about about getting rid of the outer party. It’s a very bad idea, but if they were smart people they would have laughed at Trump for 8 years as the deepstate tripped him up at every turn instead of blowing up the system to get rid of him.
They did not have a plan to eliminate the RNC. Now they do.
The left always has many plans contending, and some get abandoned and come to be deemed right wing, and some get postponed while some other plan takes center stage. So that they have a plan to eliminate the RNC does not mean that the RNC will eliminated. But they generally go after the biggest applecart with the most apples, and the two big applecarts on the table right now are sodomizing and desexing schoolchildren and eliminating the RNC.
@Red
I am a fairly firm believer in Elite Theory. You could have 20 million people screaming a message, but if the Elite have a different idea or inclination, those 20mil are shit out of luck. Obviously, the situation is far more complex than that, but theory dictates that the “people” follow the elite.
The structure of American politics is such that there’s always some new emergency, new cause, new evil in need of mitigating, supporting, or opposing. This wears people out, making them jaded, numb, and detached. Therefore the base needs to be riled up, which is then used to bully elites down a certain path or away from another one. This is an unnecessarily complicated way of guiding elite thought, but the mastery of the process in place by the bureaucratic institutions keeps it ensconced.
I agree with you, in terms of taking people at their word, particularly when they say they want to hurt me, kill me, disenfranchise me. This discussion is a technical one regarding political structures.
What do you mean by bully the elite? Do you have an example?
An example would be the George Floyd incident. An actual incident was used to gin up a series of artificial protests to create legitimate civil unrest which were then blasted out by media, using very evocative footage with doctored context and packaged with strategic misinformation and “spiritual guidance” outlining a set of precepts and actions required to signal appropriate allegiance. Companies and institutions relied upon guidance from HR and legal departments, already seeded with zealots and loyalists to progressive ideologies, to craft a position that gave cues as to what was required in word and deed, which is basically thought.
At no point was any elite given the opportunity to dissent, push back, question, or just decline to participate in any public way, with harsh measures taken both preemptively and unfairly. In this way, the memetic sovereignty of the Cathedral was established and guided. Any possible dissent had to be framed terminologically congruent with “the message,” undercutting it completely, regardless of the desired or intended content. This was systemic”point deer, make horse,” and it framed the allowable discussion going forward.
It was a rousing success for a few factions, and it was repeated a number of times, though the efficacy varied and declined over time. This wasn’t the first time, it was just Emmitt Till hoax modernized.
Floyd was Cathedral propaganda at it’s finest. I can’t remember who said it here, but there’s a suspicion that the cop was paid for the performance and was double crossed by the people who put him up to it. Floyd was a known for doing this shit with gulping down the pills when arrested in order to avoid going to jail.
The Cathedral propaganda model is take a real striking visual incident and reframes to something else entirely. It’s the most effective sort of propaganda. The downside is you generally have to wait for it to happen.
But what you really saw with BLM was a paid for astroturfed religious movement. The left needed a religion and religious warriors, and BLM/Antifa and the Demon Floyd was it. They bused the people in, basically turned them into a terrorizing army. But almost no one was doing it for free. There was no base to rile up, just an terrorist army in the streets paid for by the US government and protected by law enforcement and the courts.
Trump could have stopped it if he’d been willing to call in the Militia to restore order and have the army protect them arrest, but he didn’t have the balls for it or more likely the faith for it.
What we lack is strong elites on our side. Trump was too weak for that role or he didn’t have the confidence of a faith to give him the need strength.
The missing ingredient is moral fiber. It used to be obvious that voting counts should be double-blind; now, the principle has been established that certain states are permitted to observe the final counts of other states before finalizing their own. Any idiot can see the purpose of this, and on the ground we are shocked to find that no one will assert the violation of a simple principle upon which everyone relies.
The same thing has happened with Floyd’s “second autopsy.” That the judge got away with allowing this exposes the corruption of the whole governance stack.
It’s things like that which make me suspect that there’s a hidden coordination layer, as otherwise standing on principle is something that’s admired. But I go back and forth on that in my mind.
Tell people not to vote make it easier to explain why the unpopular party keeps winning elections. We want to good men to realize the system is rigged. Our elections are headed the way of the Soviet Union where the fake and gay opposition party always loses and that quickly leads people to cynicism about the fundamental basis of the state religion and to the truth that democracy is a lie.
Every sheepdog, politico, Christian, and patriot I talk to who has a sufficient number of redpills to figure out that there’s a systemic issue that requires a systemic solution maintains the position that we must use the process, which implies that they believe the process can fix the problem(s). If the RNC was disbanded voluntarily with some person of passable eloquence stating that the whole thing was rigged, I don’t think people would just slouch into nominal one party rule. If the RNC gets disbanded as a result of a false flag and/or political purge, different story, potentially.
The uniparty system requires the outer party to work. The Cathedral would never let the outer party disappear without a suitable replacement. There could be a transition to monoparty system, but it would require a few very complicated or vast changes to how society is structured. For Russia, China, Cuba, Vietnam, and Cambodia, there was a systemic purge via civil war.
In another generation, maybe two, I could buy the idea that people would chalk up Dem Wins only to lack of involvement. But as it stands now, I don’t think anything would ignite political violence s wholly as every election being a choice between two democrats. In all honesty, that’s why we have now in general, but it works because the common knowledge perspective is that Republicans and Democrats hold antipodal positions. Explicit single party politics would drive boomercons insane.
I’m not saying this would be a panacea, but I agree with Yarvin that conservatives continuing to participate in a game they know is rigged, or just think could be easily rigged, is doing the Cathedral’s heavy lifting for it.
I like this argument, but it’s already happened twice with horrible outcomes: The Bolsheviks “legally” voted themselves into power by terrorizing every other party away from Duma. The opposition party in Venezuela boycotted a rigged election and then new laws where passed that resulted in them all being arrested legally.
The fact that a law was passed has magical power over the minds of the men with guns. Doesn’t matter how it got to the point that the law was passed, just that it was passed. This magical legality gives them cover for very evil acts.
You forgot the National Socialists. Hitler was voted enabling act powers when the other parties where scared away from voting by the storm troopers. The other parties all ended up in the Concentration camps and democracy continued with Hitler’s actions being approved via carefully managed plebiscites.
I think that’s what they wanted from J6. It was their Reichstag Fire, but they fucked it up.
The dynamics of a uniparty system require inner and outer. The Bolsheviks and National Socialists were not structurally uniparty, they were monoparty. The moment they had the means, they destroyed all opposition. The Cathedral has been united under it’s state religion for many, many decades. If they had the goal of eliminating nominal opposition, they could have done so. But that’s not how convergence/skinsuit methods work. The Cathedral wants nominal opposition, it gives them many options in many situations, and it refuses to accept actual opposition, or anything it cannot tame or control.
A layer of complexity over this situation creates circumstances that make historical precedents less capable to explain or predict. There isn’t a monolithic Conspiracy at work, it’s a conspiracy of conspiracies, so the coordination is suboptimal without a Schelling Point, but even then it’s messy; sometimes it works (Russia Collusion, November 2020) better than other times (Uvalde, Buffalo, Ukraine, etc). When the factions aren’t united, they are competing or adversarial. This is one handicap of a State Religion that lacks inviolate canon or dogma, or an agreed upon foundational text.
It appears to me that at least a couple factions of elites within the Polygon are actively seeking to instantiate a monoparty system, but they have varying methods and timetables. There are more factions (IMO) that oppose this, on tactical, strategic, and/or ideological grounds. The latter has the majority influence, but not by much, and it’s not going to last without a confederation or coalition pinned to a Schelling Point, something to unify opposition to the radicals. In this way, the radicals are better situated; their existence is the Schelling Point.
There’re so many layers, institutions, and systems predicated on the uniparty dynamic staying operable, I think there will be strong opposition to any rapid destabilization of it. This is why I’m somewhat incredulous to the idea that there was a plan to eliminate the RNC, but it was put on hold or cancelled due to Trump’s campaign.
The essay I posted a few weeks ago, the one that compared American politics to professional wrestling, is, to my mind, one of the best representations of uniparty dynamics. The fans of wrestling choose to believe in the moment, in the competition, in the stakes laid out by the script and setting and actors. If the fans stopped “believing,” there’s not much chance of the industry continuing. If the “heels” collectively decided to start fighting for real, went off script and fought to win, the whole system would collapse and have to be reconfigured or purged.
Leftism does not care about things staying operable. It sees an applecart, wants to knock it over.
It was put on hold, not canceled. Obama started purging the military and the administrative purge of anyone who’s a hard leftist. They were not exactly ready for the purge in 2016, but I think they planned after a successful war against Russia that would give them cover to finally rip the bandage off.
What do you think the Democrats would have done if J6 had played out the way they planned it? Dead cops, capital shot up, dead bodies everywhere and Trump standing there in the crowd all to blame for it?
We all know what they would have done to Trump and Co, but do you really think they would have stopped there? The rest of the GOP would have gone into the pot within a couple of years. First the MAGA elements, then the said something nice about Trump elements, then everyone else. The slippery slope all the way to the bottom.
Responding to both Jim and Red.
I don’t think it’s cut and dried yet, as in there’s not a dominant faction. So the various factions vie for power, pursue their own schemes, lend support when it benefits themselves, and always keeps an eye on the “consensus of the moment.”
Leftism only sees the untipped apple carts, but the Cathedral=/=Leftism, though it is dominated by leftists at the top. But it’s a meta-system (system of systems), and the stakes are different at different levels. As the leftists take more and more power, the factions will jockey harder and harder. Further complicating matters, there are dissenter elites and fence sitters, and elites who have retracted as much as possible while maintaining status, influence, and power. Some elites protect their carts by selling out others, or sacrificing some apples, or what have you.
Red, I think the radicals love the idea of liquidating their perceived opposition, and that they will get to continue the liquidation in perpetuity. Bezmenov and the Cambodian Paradigm shows is not only what will happen, but how it could happen: the will operationalize the Holiness Spiral to unite the zealots and purge the opposition within governance, then rinse and repeat until liquidated themselves.
There are moderating influences on the left and in the Cathedral. If there weren’t, we’d be in a very different place.
I think the factions have agreed to it and Biden’s Red Sermon was the public announcement.
https://www.thethinkingconservative.com/steve-cortes-our-response-to-bidens-red-sermon/
Of course at first only MAGA Republicans will be purged, but once started it’s not going to stop.
The increasing mocking and opposition of and to Biden from leftwing and leftward mouthpieces indicates dissention to me. My model is one of a slapdash and hasty crowd of Karens, sodomites, and low IQ minorities with just enough competent operators to keep the thing somewhat stable. Just like J06 fizzled, I think the Red Sermon was less than impressive and poorly received. The Cathedral of our time has very high expectations with very low impact, compared to their forbearers.
We may be on different sides of the disagreement about the nature and capacity of the Cathedral (monolithic conspiracy v. meta-conspiracy), which means we can see the same thing and have completely different interpretations.
I don’t think J06 was a meticulously planned and executed op, I think it was last minute and sloppy, taking advantage of a whole mess of dupes and CIs being all in one place. One of the side effects of Cathedral institutions onboarding midwits who demonstrate loyalty and willingness to submit themselves in a debased way (as opposed to high IQ, self-reliant people unwilling to grovel or mime) is that there are lots of people with very grandiose ideas and well crafted power point presentations, who are actually quite incapable of achieving that to which they aspire. So you get lots of confident assurances of unstoppable success followed by lackluster performance and suboptimal outcomes. This denotes poor organizational capacity and failing coordination.
Public opinion wise they failed. But the security forces are going right ahead with the rounds up anyways. They’re having a harder and harder time using their religion to rule, so they’re resulting to naked force without any sort of legitimacy. It’s short term only thing, but once you’ve rounded up the even nominally fake opposition, not going to be a lot of dissenting voices. Abortion protestors are being raided now and are looking at long jail sentences. This is all ramping up towards a full purge of the Cathedral’s foes.
Ray Epps, the pipe “bombs”, doors being opened, fences being removed along with the no trespassing signs and stuff like the gallows, teams of Antifa/Feds all in black breaking through windows and says otherwise. So does the loads of weapons some groups showed up at DC with, but which never made it to the capitol. The people the feds were telling to come armed, got cold feet and left them behind.
They war gamed it, put a ton planning into it and got every fed connected group working on it. The op was a disaster as the crowd wasn’t nearly violent enough, but that’s comes from drinking their own coolaid on who MAGA people are. They’re not terribly competent but having full control of the media lets be sloppy and still get away with it.
I think we’re on the same page. There’s different factions but they talk to each other and have coordinated ops when they all agree on something important. They couldn’t agree on which faction should rule, so Biden was chosen as a place holder. They agreed on a lot stuff and on those issues they work together.
I expected the matter to be resolved lethally lickety-split, but this has not happened yet.
Any time they need to make a decision, they kick the can down the road. Will run out of road eventually, but it may take a while longer.
I’m also in Florida, likely will not vote. Investment in the current system will only lead to further normalcy bias. I’m an outlaw in foreign occupied territory. Whores and bandits all around me. That’s my mindset. I’m still plenty motivated to make something of it. Just not interested in validating any part of clownworld.
That’s always the downside in voting. Even when voting for the lesser of 2 evils you become somewhat invested in it.
I’m disenchanted with the entire “war” at least from our perspective. It’s clear by now that the only reason the US is sending billions over there is to launder taxpayer dollars into kickbacks.
Its both robbing the taxpayers and murdering Christians. If it was just about stealing money, the US would resemble the joke
‘A Chinese politician and an African politician are walking next to a river…
The Chinese points to a bridge and says,
“See that bridge? I campaigned for that bridge, chose the construction company, and even arranged for the funds for it to be built.” The Chinese then pats his pocket and says, “Of course I took a portion off the top for myself.” and the two men laugh.
Later the Chinese politician and African politician are walking along a river in Africa, the African points across the river and says, “See that bridge? I campaigned for that bridge, chose the construction company, and even arranged for the funds for it to be built.”
The Chinese looks across the river, then looks at the African and says, “What bridge? I don’t see any bridge.”
The African politician pats his pocket and laughs.
Bald-faced insanity. They desperately want to win. This isn’t about stealing a measly billion dollars.
I think the Elon’s recent talk about stopping starlink in Ukraine is about the FAA launch license. They still haven’t issued it after 6 or so months.
FAA cleared SpaceX to launch they just said they have to give away millions of goodies to state parks, environment, education etc. But they have the right to launch now
“Sure, you can launch your white male oppression device, you just need pay this small fee, and donate this inconsequential thing, and do this little task, and then you are cleared to apply for a permit to renew the exemption for the waiver to annul the compliance bypass, which is required for the bypass compliance waiver exemption renewal permit, then you can apply for review by the board of review board reviews, which, assuming your paperwork is in order and correctly filled out and packaged together with the incorrectly filled out packet for opposite application review, you will be well on your way to the application review application hearing, wherein you must validate all prior applications, submissions, reviews, requests, waivers, annulments, hearings, and audits to confirm compliance with the projected rules for FY 2026 pre-retro-active climate compliance rules. After that’s all taken care of, and the first 3 years of the 6 month equity compliance waiting period has begun, we can begin the Equity/Climate/Diversity audit, a necessary step on the path towards… towards… ah, yes, that’s right… on the path towards doing something or other for NASA. It’s all very exciting, honestly, I’ve never seen the process move so fast, you must have friends in all the right places!”
Musk actually does have friends in all the right places. Also enemies.
But I suspect those friends are going to lose, and eventually be killed, unless they realize that they have superior capability to kill their enemies, and need to deploy that capability before their enemies do.
Once a Republic’s elections lose credibility, every issue is a power struggle, and there is only one way to resolve a power struggle.
Power struggles within the former American Republic will eventually turn lethal – have already turned lethal, notice the remarkable suicide and disappearance rate among people connected to the Clintons, Will turn more lethal. Winner will be the man who realizes it and does not muck around.
Been noticing this more and more. And with me, no doubt others, too.
But no one wants to notice it. It’s like looking into a black void. You step in, there’s no going back… So everyone is trying to look away as long as possible.
Which is perhaps why evil people so often thrive in such unclear times. Very happy we also have a belief system for good people to act with murderous intent.
And that was kind of the point of my long-winded joke: he’s doing phenomenally well within the confines of the reality deployed by the Polygon, which is to say he is failing, just a bit slower than the others.
I think the next big escalation is when Musk starts getting supporters-as-vassals from petro/chemical industry, heavy industry, freight shipping, etc. If he were to establish some kind of coalition that shares lawyers, policy analysts, and lobbyists with the intent of playing “by the book,” this would be a redoubt for dissenter elites. Ostensibly, it would just be yet another advocacy organization, but in reality, it would be his proto-“small council,” or Shadow Court. Pride and shortsightedness may preclude such an occurrence, of course, but at some point, the elites with the most to lose are going to have to see where this is all headed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=icS8tkNgJSk
Kyle Rittenhouse critiques memes related to his trial and exchanges good-natured bants with his interviewer. Very enjoyable and morale-boosting.
Currently rereading C.S. Lewis’ Mere Christianity and this passage in book 3, chapter 7 lent understanding to what I found refreshing about the above video:
“The idea of the knight-the Christian in arms for the defence of a good cause-is one of the great Christian ideas. War is a dreadful thing, and I can respect an honest pacifist, though I think he is entirely mistaken. What I cannot understand is this sort of semi-pacifism you get nowadays which gives people the idea that though you have to fight, you ought to do it with a long face and as if you were ashamed of it. It is that feeling that robs lots of magnificent young Christians in the Services of something they have a right to, something which is the natural accompaniment of courage-a kind of gaiety and wholeheartedness.
“I have often thought to myself how it would have been if, when I served in the First World War, I and some young German had killed each other simultaneously and found ourselves together a moment after death. I cannot imagine that either of us would have felt any resentment or even any embarrassment. I think we might have laughed over it.”
Seeing Kyle in fellowship, smiling and joking about the dire situation he went through is heartening as it should be.
Rittenhouse is so awkward and unrefined, unable to ignore the physical camera as well as metaphorical “millions” the camera implies. It’s actually quite refreshing, because it gives the impression his far outside his element, inhabiting a world he never even dreamed of. If you spend enough time pointing cameras at people, you can sense who has just been waiting their whole life to be “seen” and who is fully self-possessed and totally unprepared for the moment. This is why I never trust clean and snappy “man on the street” interviews where the subject is coherent, on message, and comfortable. Most people who are unprepared are really rough on camera, cracking lame jokes, moving awkwardly, and unable to figure out if they should keep their eye line on the camera or the interviewer. Another area this is really apparent is in pornography; you can tell who is at the beginning of their descent into hell and who has Satan’s phone number tattooed on their asshole by their interaction with the camera. I bring up the porno angle not to be crass, but to draw a parallel to the spokesfaggots from the Parkland school shooting. If you go back and watch those interviews, they are very calm, they know what to do with their hands and bodies, they keep a good eyeline, looking into the camera to deliver The Message and looking at the interviewer to deliver the sense of “I am totally a normal human.” The contrast is quite stark: the dumb college slut ruining her life and the numb, jaded cum dumpster punching a clock.
https://warontherocks.com/2022/10/the-end-of-the-world-is-nigh/
Does Putin have a gore folder? Does he shitpoast on /pol/? I’m not saying this scenario is impossible, but the coloration filled in around the logical assertions makes it seem a bit silly. It does appear the Kremlin keeps expecting the “adults in the room” in the US to make logical decisions after studied assessment. I don’t understand how Russians can be this naive.
I did a fact finding mission on /k/ in an attempt to understand why they are so long on UKR victory, and the most repeated reasoning was that the Russian army is broken, the Ukrainian army is incredibly skilled, and the NATO weaponry is wunderwaffen. With the exception of Ritter, Macgregor, and Mearsheimer, this seems to be the baseline assumption of all Occidental analysis.
/k/ became fucking unreadable after the war broke out, highest shill activity I’ve ever seen and it was already overrun with them
4chan’s /k/ was always shit. 8ch’s one was much better but it’s dead now, and the survivors are still basically weird geniuses in their current holdout.
My model of the US government is that it is full of idiots and madmen, none of whom pay they slightest attention to the likely consequences for America and the world of their decisions, but only what the impact will be in the next meeting, that absolutely no one in the US government would bother thinking through this clever reasoning nor would understand nor care about this clever rationale. When contemplating a course of action they do not think “How will Putin respond”, let alone “How is this going to look from Moscow”. They think “How is this going to look at the meeting coming up in fifteen minutes”, knowing that absolutely no one else at the meeting is going to ask “how will this look from Moscow” either.
A peaceful resolution of this war requires an agreement capable US government. Since not agreement capable, likely to go nuclear.
The USG is insane collectively which better explains their behavior than anything else. Like most insanity it tends of follow patterns and one them is suicide. The USG wants it to happen because they want to die but they want to die feeling morally superior. The last few years are more akin to a suicide note summed up as “To everyone I know, this is all your fault.”
They’re willing to take any ends to the pain but instead of a body wafting from the ceiling fan they envision their irradiated corpse wearing pictured on Instagram as the epithet.
Nuclear war is enemy propaganda. A word enshrined via a thousand works of fiction in the minds of boomers to equate with the end of all things. Their material existence, the ultimate expression of one’s boomer self, must end with the end of all things. A poetic and solipsistic punctuation mark to their existence.
It’s total nonsense. It relies on the proposition the Russians believe they can break Western will by killing Ukrainians. The entire point of proxy wars is expending locals instead of your own people. This isn’t an alien concept to the Russians since they are keeping casualties lower by using DPR and LPR troops instead of men from the Russian army.
If the Russians want to threaten the west with the possibility of nuclear war, they’ll publically test a nuclear bomb.
Most of that article consists of what a couple of NATO faggots shit out after a night of meth and aids infested dick sucking.
But they let something slip that I’ve been warning about:
The few men in American “leadership” warning against nuclear war continue to be proven wrong when Russia doesn’t really hit back that hard. Now they’re generally shutting up and the pro nuke Russia crowd seems to be dominate because Russia won’t strike back! I get why Russia isn’t doing so, they’re busy attriting the Ukraine and NATO to death rather than trying to escalate tit for tat. But to play this game they need to go big by retaliating in a very disproportionate manner. The recent strikes on the power grid is a good start, but they need to both keep it up and generally wreak Ukraine’s infrastructure too. That requires a sustained campaign.
I’m still shocked at how soft Putin’s been on the Ukraine. Blowing up their power grid and general infrastructure should have happened right after the initial coup de main failed.
Given how Christianity played a large role in European Supremacy. What should be made of the fall of the largely Orthodox Eastern Roman Empire to the Muslim Armies?
Why did Christian lands in North Africa, Egypt, Levant and in Asia Minor fall and remain to this day in Muslim hands and not Western Christian Europe?
The fall of Egypt was due to heresy. Fall of the Byzantine Empire due to wickedness. There is a reason why the “Byzantine Generals problem” is so called.
The fall is a bit complex and Jim’s answer is a good summery of the reasons why.
The reason it it wasn’t reconquered is the total lack of value of the area after the Arabs, Mongols, and Turks got done destroying the infrastructure and mongalizing the people. Islam turned out to be worthless at anything besides war and trade and as their Christian population declined so did their ability to build cities, tech, and infrastructure.
@Red
In that case Islam to ensure their hold over their region could simply do this:
That way Christian lands can perpetually shrink but never expand. But the only ones right now converting Muslims is Jesus himself appearing in Visions to Muslims to bring them to faith:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eeb1IwHMkgk
And Christian Missionaries.
@Jim
Why did the core territories of Orthodoxy fail in Righteousness in comparison to western Europe?
Does that entail that Christianity needs Barbarization as it is in Western Europe to survive as a Civilization?
The holy Roman empire was an elective monarchy, where a small number of Kings elected the emperor for life or good conduct. (And normally elected the eldest son of the previous emperor)
Succession in the Byzantine empire was irregular and apt to be violent. Constantine attempted hereditary succession, which sort of worked some of the time, but it never stuck securely.
The authority of the Byzantine emperor was far more absolute than the authority of the Holy Roman Emperor. I think that destabilized the system – the Byzantine emperor had more power than a mortal can handle. See my discussion “Throne, Altar, and freehold“.
@jim
Interesting that Divine Providence doesn’t tolerate Centralization of Authority like in the Byzantine Emperor well in the long term in Christian Civilizations. Muslim pressures ensured that the problems of Centralized Government are far less likely to survive the onslaught.
I suspect that God allowed Islam to keep Christian Europe on its toes and sharp.
But China alone it seems managed it and maintained it despite manifold invasions from the North. With the Bureaucrats making themselves useful to their new Rulers until their overthrow and massacre. The Civil Service Examinations still remained as did the entire Bureaucracy.
Even with the revolutions in the 20th Century. A similar system of rule remained. With Xi becoming more Imperial in his Rule.
@Red
Agreed. This is why our Lord Jesus pays a personal visit to all those Muslims in their dreams. And direct them to local Christians to help them learn the faith. I posted a video about this. Its not long. I recommend you watch it.
Then they convert to Christianity.
How can Christians convert Muslims when Muslims out breed Christens 3 to 1? Most Christians I know are like you, blue pilled on women and have very few children because of it. My very Christian Brother screeches like sun light on a vampire when I point out Paul’s commandments on women or the general behavior of women.
No one is going to give up a patriarchal religion like Islam where you can still get a virgin wife for a debased Christianity.
Of course, no one will give up anything for a debased Christianity. Debased Christianity is heresy and repulsive
Patriarchal Christianity is attractive. While it is illegal it is hidden. As soon as it is no longer illegal, it will spread visibly.
Christ of the Gospels is a based chad. For some reason Christianity has been portrayed in public as a cuddle blanket for cucks, and therefore attracts that demographic. It’s unfortunate. But the Gospels are full of chadly zingers, and if anyone started using them they would make a lot of converts.
Which are the top one or two chadly-est zinger in your view, that stand out as representative to you?
Personal favorite of mine is Matthew 21 where He tells the chief priests that prostitutes and tax collectors will enter heaven before they do.
“A certain man had two sons; and coming to the first, he said: Son, go work today in my vineyard. [29] And he answering, said: I will not. But afterwards, being moved with repentance, he went. [30] And coming to the other, he said in like manner. And he answering, said: I go, Sir; and he went not.
[31] Which of the two did the father’s will? They say to him: The first. Jesus saith to them: Amen I say to you, that the publicans and the harlots shall go into the kingdom of God before you.”
Michael Franzese said that when he became a Christian he never could have done it if Jesus didn’t seem like a man’s man but when he read the gospels he did.
No wife and no kids. Also if I remember correctly Paul states that it is best to stay celibate. Kind of odd both of those.
The bible is full of contradictions. And Paul is full of contradictions – which are obviously deliberate. If you grab one end of a contradiction and run with it at the expense of the other end, you will inevitably fall into heresy. Paul said it is best to say celibate. But he also said the priesthood should be recruited from married men with well behaved children.
And, similarly on obedience to laws, magistrates, and Kings.
It makes sense spiritually. If you are whole, as in no desire, you don’t need anything. Don’t need to eat, sleep, have sex etc. But temptation and desire is what moves us forward. We are compelled to satisfy our desires, even the most disciplined. Obviously Jesus was not, and Paul understood this.
I believe they are not so much contradictions but Paradoxes.
https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/paradox
For if the Holy Spirit inspired all that is written then there is no actual contradiction in my opinion.
The Trinity is an apparent contradiction but its like trying to see a 3D object from a 2D person. So it looks like a contradiction.
Its those who cannot grasp the 3D nature of what is being said and instead going with the 2D apparent representation that heresy results.
Its like seeing a representation of a cube on a flat page and concluding that its actually not a representation of a cube at all.
I think in that sense the Holy Spirit being in the Christian better helps us to comprehend the full truth in all its dimensions that make sense of all Paradox.
https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Matthew-Chapter-19/
Jesus says that a man should take a wife and be strictly monogamous for life, against the Jewish tradition of no-fault divorce:
4 And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female,
5 And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh?
6 Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.”
He says there are exceptions, of “eunuchs”:
11 But he said unto them, All men cannot receive this saying, save they to whom it is given.
12 For there are some eunuchs, which were so born from their mother’s womb: and there are some eunuchs, which were made eunuchs of men: and there be eunuchs, which have made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven’s sake. He that is able to receive it, let him receive it.
The plainest reading of this would be that you do not need to marry if you are going to dedicate your life to god. Although, also does not strictly command those who dedicate their lives to go not to marry.
You’re wrong when you claim that Muslims outbreed Christians 3 to 1. Not even true comparing countries to each other, and certainly not true within countries. The only place this is true is in Afghanistan, everywhere else it’s Muslims outbreeding Christians 1.5 to 1, 1.2 1, 1.1 to 1, or not outbreeding them at all.
Islam is debased in most places in the world. That’s the whole point of ISIS and the wannabe terroist/ ISIS type groups, all or most which are failing.
This is an interesting point. 1.5:1 is still scary when one views things from the historical context and/or in terms of generations (20 years) as the base unit of measure, but it still throws some cold water on both the triumphalists and the doomers.
Another angle that gets lost is the objective fact that Islam is being actively converged in many places. When it was a question of painting Islam as a threat (a necessary task, BTW), you often heard Sam Harris and others point out that 1-5% (the extremists), 5-15% (the extreme), and 15-20% (the orthodox) all had to be proportionally represented out of ~1 billion, which was to say that there were an awful lot of hardline Muslims and an even bigger crowd quietly or loudly supporting them. But there are also a huge amount of pozzed Muslims, particularly in the West, who were being actively deployed to converge that faith. Of course, Islam is way better at rewarding traitors with what they deserve, at least in their strongholds, but the fact remains that no faith has really been up to the task of successfully countering Cathedral convergence, and many of the potential examples of such are actually just browns being allowed more privileges to stick it to white male Christians (as we thoroughly discussed with the trans-warrior a couple weeks ago).
Europe will be a big test case. The ardent Muslims on the Continent are all first generation migrants, and very naturally alien. The subsequent generations will demonstrate how susceptible they are to the pozz. I personally think they will do very well against it where they are able to establish parallel institutions, but anywhere the hoodwink parents into sending kids to university, not so much. Islam’s successes in countering convergence, where they occur, are a strong proof of Jimian Christianity’s assertion that the WQ id The Question, and all else is downstream. If women are kept under control, tradition and culture persist and thrive.
You’re correct. I last checked the numbers a long time ago. Sounds like Islam is being converged just as the Christians have been.
I am wondering if anyone here knows much about this situation
https://twitter.com/jordanschnyc/status/1580889341265469440
Apparently the latest round of sanctions on the yellow people is particularly brutal for the human capital of their chipmaking industry. It’s hard to separate the self congratulatory propaganda element from the actual impact this may have. Perhaps someone else has better insight.
I may be in a bubble, probably am, but pretty sure the Biden administration has shot itself in the foot again.
The effect of this sanction is that Americans working in China must leave China or lose US citizenship.
My impression, based on a very small and not necessarily representative sample, is that American engineers in China consider the US the doomed evil empire and believe that should they return to America, they will find Shaniqua is tech lead.
My impression is that everyone outside the state apparatus only wants to make money and get the fuck out of the middle kingdom. I have less connections to western engineers in the yellow empite, but I would conjecture that they would not want to be stuck with that citizenship alone, despite viewing the GAE for what it is.
If this is real and true, I place odds on the engineers just taking the loss and making plans to retire in some small, friendly, out of the way country.
We shall see.
I would guess about a quarter to a third will depart China, but I could well be wildly wrong. As I said, might be in a bubble here.
There is also the option of pro forma compliance – how does the Biden government know where an engineer is working? Just do a stopover in Vietnam, Hong Kong, or Korea.
or Taiwan!
That is exactly the point. If your IQ is over 135, there is a dire shortage of economic opportunity in the US. Also, dire shortage of good pussy.
I’m in fact talking about the well to do Han themselves, who seemingly all want to leave the second they’ve made a retirement fund. The yellow empire has a particularly thick cloud of prewar propaganda so I do not place high odds on my perception being accurate, but that is my perception. The rich want out before some bureaucrat or his cousin steals — sorry, “Nationalizes” — their stuff.
Attempts to re-institute Marxism is making is making the prospect of long term Capitalism dangerous in China. Forces people to think short term.
Your perception is completely accurate. But it does not follow that smart people who are still making their retirement fund are going to leave China for a place where being smart is not financially rewarded, where on the contrary being smarter than average is going to get you in trouble for not being a team player, thinking you are always right, failing to compromise with people who think two plus two equals six by compromising on five, and not trusting the science.
It would not follow if we were in a stable geopolitical situation, where it could reasonably be anticipated that you would not be subject to scrutiny by party members, possibility of indefinite detention and house arrest, and any other insanity yet to emerge from the yellow empire. These engineers have to believe that there is a high likelihood of being allowed to leave with their retirement fund, or desire to reside in the middle kingdom indefinitely. I am not so sure, but, as you say, we shall see.
“These engineers have to believe that there is a high likelihood of being allowed to leave with their retirement fund, or desire to reside in the middle kingdom indefinitely”
You are speaking as if they have a choice. You either deal with Shaniqua or Ching the choice is yours.
Not only engineers
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/10/18/uk-military-china-pilots-raf-training/
TLDR
“Up to 30 former Royal Air Force pilots may have gone to China to train members of the People’s Liberation Army of China. The BBC reported some earned financial packages up to $270,000.”
Some people are noticing and issuing warning
“This has prompted Britain to consider changing its laws to criminalize former personnel taking up contracts to train members of certain foreign militaries.”
My bet is not gonna change a thing considering
RAF “pausing hiring white men to fill diversity quota”
Diversity always wins./s
@Anon
The Great Resignation… followed by working for the Chinese!
If this is the blow the thread claims it to be, then there will be a commensurate move by Xi’s regime. What is something China could do that would be equivalent, which is to say what move could paralyze a critical American industry or field.
Core GAE is not a toothless beast, and if “we” keep assuming they are powerless, “we” run the risk of getting surprised in inconvenient and destabilizing ways. That being said, the Biden regime has been very short sighted in 2022, making bold moves that can’t be walked back, then stepping in piles of their own creation.
The thread announces the Americans working in Chinese tech have all resigned and left. As of the present moment, seemingly zero have resigned and left. Perhaps in the near future a great many will resign and return to an America where there are no jobs for smart men, and no women for good men. We shall see.
The announcement that China is reeling right now is premature. Perhaps they will be reeling in future. We shall see.
The higher interest rates right now are not deflationary. In the past, in Volcker’s time, they were. In the past, high interest rates were a result of the Fed sucking up money from the banking system, resulting in increased competition for the funds that remained (thus, a higher interest rate).
Right now, because of a lot of QE, the way interest rates are raised is just that the Fed pays it out of thin air (the technical term for this is “reverse repo” and “interest on excess reserves” but it is just that, printing money out of air) This was not previously the case. The situation right now is that the government is paying people to not spend their money, which is not a tenable solution to inflation for reasons that should be obvious.
Inflation will persist until and unless the government stops spending so much money. Rates do not have much to do with it.
Yes high interest rates will actually be long term inflationary because of the need to service massive government debt…
That’s not exactly why. That would lead the government into a debt spiral, forcing them to either raise taxes (which won’t work, we are well over the Laffer limit) or cut spending. The bigger reason is, unlike ever before, the interest being paid is being conjured out of thin air. I am not even sure they realize what is happening here: they are paying people not to spend money with money they are printing.
If the government had to borrow the money they are paying, then the story might be different. But it doesn’t
the way the fed works is every dollar it prints goes out as loans though… there is an exemption for coins but they haven’t done the trillion dollar coin thing.
Sure but the Feds are paying interest to itself on the loan.
They may be paying the interest to themselves, but they’re charging Joe Taxpayer to garner that payment to pay themselves with.
They’re effectively killing most of the economy in favor of printing to keep .gov going, much as Germany did in the 20s. To stop the cycle they’d need to fire about 2/3s of the government work force. That’s not happening so it’s going to be hyperinflation to the moon.
Interest rates are not high right now, they are extremely low. In real terms – which is what matters – they are well below zero.
Volcker raised interest rates to 22% nominal, compared to ~15% official inflation.
Exactly so. And back then actual inflation was only a little bit higher than official inflation.
Today, actual inflation is enormously higher than official inflation, so probably would need to raise interest rates to fifty percent or so.
Which would work for a while, but pretty soon people would start to wonder if the US government could pay off its debts.
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I am not interested in the ever more complicated financial plumbing that grows ever more detached from reality.
The US dollar is long overdue for collapse and disappearance, but markets can remain irrational longer than you can remain solvent.
But the strange delay in the collapse of the US dollar gives us more time to get a good replacement ready.
It’s not so strange. It’s collapsing as anticipated, and following a pattern laid out by less insane financialists and traders. First to go are weaker fiat currencies, as global confidence in the financial system falters. This is happening now. Next we get an unexpected dollar boom, as all the weaker fiat currencies collapse there is a rush to secure their books with USD. Then we get the real split, as the USD is worthless and cannot be traded for anything since manufacturing is being thoroughly exterminated, and a global economic realignment that is happening slowly now, accelerates and happens catastrophically fast. Then no one wants dollars anymore, because they have finally caught up to reality, and all those dollars backing the books all over the world just get dumped back into the US system, causing the hyperinflation everyone is not so patiently waiting for.
Wow. I’d been wondering what was going on. This puts all the pieces together.
Jim, on the topic of blockchain scalability and privacy, I found these projects interesting:
Mina Protocol, claims they are building an L1 using recursive zk proofs to achieve scalability and privacy, 22kb fixed size blockchain.
https://minaprotocol.com/
https://github.com/MinaProtocol
Nillion, decentralized off-chain secure computation.
https://www.nillion.com/
This claims to be exactly what I wanted, rolling.
Of course I have seen no end of stuff that claims to be exactly what I wanted, rolling, but it is now possible to deliver.
I made an attempt to look into it, but found holes in my infrastructure, which I am now fixing. When I fix my issues, will be in a better position to address it.
A fixed sized blockchain only makes sense if it is a proof for an unlimited amount of information, offchain.
Which is easy enough with recursive snarks, but on the face of it, there are certain issues in combining open entry with fixed size. The fixed size solutions that I understand have a certain amount of hidden centralization. But then, I am sure to encounter piles of stuff I do not yet understand.
Checked out Nillion. It is a scam decorated with random magic tech words. Mina, however, might be the real thing. Harder to check out.
Nillion claims to magically solve problems which are known hard. If someone had a solution for those problems, I would have heard. And if someone genuinely made a breakthrough, they would not describe the breakthrough with a random spray of buzzwords.
But Mina claims to do stuff which is plausibly feasible given recursive snarks.
We ask, Yandex answers lol.
https://southfront.org/russian-prisoners-on-front-lines-fighting-to-deserve-pardon-and-honor/
Everything I hear about Wagner is exactly what I used to think American SOF was. If American ego and hubris weren’t what they are, I think American males would be flocking to join.
If I didn’t have my woman I’d be over there. Hopefully I get a chance to fight a war, ideally after I have grown sons on the right path
Then i take it you dont agree with Paul Craig Roberts here https://www.unz.com/author/paul-craig-roberts/
He says no end of stuff, some of it on the ball, some of it, quite a lot of it, kind of stupid. What points do you have in mind.
Couple points. One that Putin taking it easy on the Ukrainians is bringing us all closer to Armageddon as it just seems to excite the Deep state.
The other that it is also demoralizing his own troops and his own people.
I don’t see how either of those bear on my statement.
Would you want to fight in an Army that takes it easy on an opponent that wishes your destruction?
Putler expects to rule over the region soon. This parallels Cesar’s famous clemency during the civil war.
And it’s always a bad idea…
How did that work out for Cesar? Octavian was 1/10th the general Cesar was, but he was a hard motherfucker on his foes. Men respect strength.
In kléos áphthiton. He won, and his killer is depicted by Dante as being the second worse person in human history next to Judas Iscariot. I sense a weakly help consesnus here that power is almost always from force or implied force behind a narrative game, but remember that Lord Jesus Christ conquered the world after riding into Jerusalem on an ass. There is a time for mercy, though I accept that in the case of Putin and his struggles, it is very arguable as to whether it is that time.
If he expects to rule over Ukraine soon, why did he not take Kiev when he had the chance? I confess I have no idea what Putin’s game plan is.
I hope Paul Craig Roberts is wrong and Putin has an ace up his sleeve, but I fear that PCR may be right. Whatever Putin’s plan, it looks complicated and I don’t like complicated plans. Too many things can go wrong.
When one is to rule, one must be ruthless to your foes. You can always forgive them later, but forgiving before they’re begging for mercy at your feet invites destruction as it’s perceived as weakness.
Jesus never forgave the Pharisees and he treated them with utter contempt and scorn. He isn’t a pussy.
Not really a soldier’s business how his leader is conducting the war. Seems like Putin is taking it easy for his own troops, not the Ukrainians. RU is winning. Could it have done better? Maybe. Doesn’t bear on my wanting to fight for it.
Maybe fighting a slow war is bad for morale. Retreating is bad for morale, but on the other hand, blowing up lots of tanks is good for morale. I don’t know how Russian morale is doing. Liars in my media tell me it is awful, mutiny any day now for the last 6 months, but I don’t believe them.
Maybe exciting the deep state is the point. Russia is not just attriting Ukraine. Russia gets to blow up NATO’s best toys and degrade its ability to wage war. If Russia went too hard at the beginning, it might have found itself ruling over a desolate Ukraine with no gas and no electricity, and having to defend it against Poland and the US. Question is not if NATO intervenes directly, it is when.
When Reagan was running in the primaries for the Republican presidential nomination, he told us his plan for defeating the Soviet Union was to exhaust their logistic capability by bogging them down in a hundred small forever wars. (I paraphrase, he used more folksy and humane language)
That worked.
So the Global American Empire’s plan for defeating Putin’s Russia is to exhaust their logistic capacity with forever war in the Ukraine.
Surprise!
It is Global American Empire logistics that are failing.
I have read a pile of stuff that Reagan allegedly wrote in his own hand (Reagan’s enemies attribute intelligent writings to ghostwriters.) He figured that Soviet logistics would fail because socialist.
Seems the current Global American Empire leadership is too dumb to understand that point.
Putin is destroying electricity all over Ukraine. He is crippling their industrial sector. Ukraine is losing a massive amount of territory and people. When this is all said and done, the ruthlessness of Putin is going to be quite evident. He will leave behind a crippled, ruined state. An example of what happens if you fuck with Russia.
Indeed. The change in tactics is very positive.
Sounds like they’re digging in for a major defensive battle without plans to retreat right now. They’ll lose more troops than they were in the recent fallback attrition defenses but morale will be much higher for taking a stand and only giving ground after grinding their foe down.
Russians are planning retreat in the Kherson area.
Strategy is to let Ukraine hurl troops into the meatgrinder. Global American Empire is drinking its own koolaide about the state of Russian forces.
Retreating will lower morale, but casualties really lower morale. Russians intend to deal with this Ukrainian offensive with as few casualties as possible, and when Ukraine has burned through its remaining fresh troops, then launch a Russian offensive.
Push/Pull.
If you are retreating to spring a trap its generally best to encircle and annihilate and not aim for attrition…
This strategy seems similar to what von Falkenhayn attempted at Verdun.
Unless, of course, Putin decides to use nuclear weapons in an attempt to change the conflict into a war of movement.
I predict that the Russians are going to soak up the Ukrainian offensive, yielding considerable ground in the process, and then, when it runs out of puff, then launch an offensive aimed at cutting Ukraine off from the sea. If the Ukrainians manage to occupy Kherson, Russia might well nuke it, but they will endeavor to not let the Ukrainians take Kherson. The decision to provide for permanent new homes for the population of Kherson may indicate that nuking it is on the table.
Yielding ground is fine for attrition, yielding cites without a fight when they the know the Azoz pigs will pile Russian children into mass graves is the issue. Russia shows every sign of preparing to turn Kherson into a nasty meat-grinder. Getting the civilians out is a very good sign. Gives the Russian lots of options and no morale loss if they decide to pull back after kicking the shit out of the Ukrainians.
I would be surprised if they nuke Kherson, but that’s a good point.
Ideologically driven private military groups seem to be the up and coming thing. Regular military units just can’t cut it these days.
An army needs a faith. No faith, no army.
Goes double in a holy war, of course.
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This confirms that the government gives a pardon to men fighting for Wagner.
Why is the government doing Wagner’s recruiting? Why does the government not give the pardon to men fighting in Russia’s army?
Because the Wagner Group gives the Russian government deniability. I’ve heard the WG were the little green men who took over Crimea. Also they’ve proven far more effective that regular Russian military units because they have faith. When you have an effective military group that’s out performing your normal units, best to fully support it.
Wagner is a “Private” Military Corporation like the Open Society foundation is a “Non-Governmental” Organization.
This. I posted a video with a window into the training they are providing. Wagner, and the OG Blackwater before the State Department converged it, not only provided a layer of deniability, they had space to have exacting and consistent standards. Everyone that “applies” does so at will, and there is little to no civil oversight. Eddie Gallagher would have been protected and celebrated if he had operated with a PMC instead of getting mocked, defamed, and railroaded by a bunch of pussy faggot zoomers.
Wagner has a social media presence, you can look up what they say. One thing I recall is a commitment to only field trained and capable units, no conscripts or shirkers or morons.
Eddie Gallagher. I read a good bit about him. He is undoubtedly a psychopath. Now these animals, I mean that literally, they are like the difference between a dog and a wolf. The dog is a companion with empathy and trainable, the wolf is an animal. Spaths are great for attack positions but not for much else. There are articles for officers on how to handle them so they do not commit atrocities. Like he was doing. The guy knifed a prisoner under control. They didn’t charge him with a lot of stuff he did because it would make the military look so evil that they let it go on so long. He was spending enormous amounts of time in towers shooting little girls and old Men. Other officers had to go on patrol with him because his missions he designed were set up to make it likely he would get them in firefights. Now this is all fine and good if that’s your mission, BUT, that was not their mission. Their mission was to train the local soldiers and not go around shooting little girls and old men and getting into firefights. They had a very small contingent of men and were not in any shape to start a small local war. There were numerous complaints about his behavior and they continued allowing him to basically murder people for no reason until finally they had enough complaints they had to act.
I have no idea why, but some people seem to totally ignore what he did because he was some shoot them up Seal. All the while ignoring the many, many Seals who said he was jeopardizing their mission. Get this, he was randomly murdering people, as many as he could, he said verbally to others this was his goal, and these guys were basically behind enemy lines. If the locals had gotten riled up enough they would have all been killed, completely wasting the mission and the men, and he was making that a likely eventuality. The last thing you want to do in a precarious position is a lot of atrocities on little girls and old Men. And stuff like, people surrendering then have him knife them just so he can get his jollies watching them bleed out.
If you don’t get any of this, realize that he was jeopardizing the mission they were tasked for. I don’t care how well he was at killing people before, making him big hero, he was actively destroying the capability of them to carry out their mission.
Nuts
Our government demonizes warriors. Possibly some of the people they accused of this stuff were guilty, but it is completely obvious that the vast majority were innocent.
If there are any of them that are guilty, the water has been so thoroughly muddied with hateful evil lies that it is impossible to know.
>He was spending enormous amounts of time in towers shooting little girls and old Men.
The main “crime” Gallagher was accused of, wrongfully killing the ISIS fighter, was completely fabricated. Other than breaking regulation by taking a picture where he posed with a dead body, there was no evidence of anything else. All allegations only came out AFTER Gallagher negatively eval certain members of the team.
>The guy knifed a prisoner under control.
They had no logistical ability to take prisoners. The Iraqi forces made it clear they would not be taking prisoner. The ISIS fighter had suffered multiple mortal wounds that were completely terminal without medical treatment that he had no chance of getting due to logistical constraints. It was likely terminal even with proper medical treatment. Gallagher decided it would be a good idea to carry out standard medical procedures on the ISIS fighter to keep him alive as long as possible anyways… for practice. In hindsight he should of just let the bastard bleed out and die.
That is not a “war crime.” In order to treat extensive lung damage, he performed a cric. This is done by cutting open a hole in the throat and sticking a tube in. This is where allegations of knifing come from. This did not kill the ISIS fighter and in fact kept him alive far longer than otherwise would have happened.
>He is undoubtedly a psychopath
Psychopathy shares many traits that are highly correlated with heroism. You’re getting confused by the similarities. Moreover, war brings out a certain mindset and dark humor that to those on the outside looks like psychopathy. Most men enjoy fighting and bravado is often used to deal with stress.
>I have no idea why, but some people seem to totally ignore what he did
It was a war. Kill the enemy, kill the enemy, kill the enemy! No one is ignoring what he allegedly did. Quite the opposite. Those familiar with what war demands were the ones begging for clemency.
BTW if they had handled this properly at the beginning when he was up in towers and told him he was going to be shipped out if he did any more atrocities then it likely would have ended there. That’s the way that is proscribed to handle them. They don’t want to go back and be bored, so they control themselves. If they don’t you ship them out.
Speaking of Anglin and women…
https://stormer-daily.rw/victorias-secret-embraces-ugliness-signaling-that-the-porno-age-is-already-over/
THIS is a very good article (there are some minor things I disagree with, I don’t agree that women only have a sex drive at peak ovulation that varies wildly from woman to woman) and says what I’ve long said… we don’t really have a slut problem our women have become something really far worse. This is why I’m pretty blackpilled on American women in general.
Anglin’s other article was over the top but I agree with this one almost completely other than minor details.
Globohomo is trying to turn everyone into a faggot. The high drama, impulsive, consumption driven demon worshiping faggot is their ideal model for everyone.
It is basically the opposite of the patriarch.
Marry and breed the women who do not act like fags.
There is quite possibly some linkage, the trend away from the slutty raver girl era towards being fay ugly overtatted witches started around the time when it became not okay to be against gay marriage.
I honestly cannot remember the last time that a fertile age woman was actively nasty or bitchy towards me in the way that only a childless hag can be. When women act bitchy as a shit test, there’s always a noticeably fun and bratty undercurrent to it.
We should probably distinguish between personal shit tests and generalized ones. When women act self-destructively, it’s a long-term shit test, hoping that a man will come and put a stop to the self destructive behavior. Self destructive behavior signals lack of ownership. It is saying “come and get me”. A little bit different from a woman testing the fitness of one specific man by giving him shit.
Anglin is wrong.
Victoria’s secret going ugly is a shit test.
When a woman is unpleasant to you, no fun, the test is “are you so needy and weak that you have to put up with me being unpleasant?”, and it the same when she wants to get a tattoo. “are you so needy and weak that you will allow me to get a tattoo and then put up with a tattooed woman?”.
Victoria’s secret going ugly is a despairing reaction by women to our society’s massive failure to pass its shit tests.
Women need to be hit with a stick and put on a leash, and a part of them wants to be hit with a stick and put on a leash, that being the ancestral environment of reproductive success for women, and they are going to escalate the shit tests until they get what they want.
Well sure all feminism is a collective shit test but the effect is that our women lately have become something far worse than where’s something just in all ways grotesque…
Victoria’s Secret is not a woman, I guarantee it is not even run by women in the final accounting. VS going fat and black is more state enforced holiness, your pattern matching has overheated here.
Yes, but it is holy because women want to shit test us. The left becomes ever more gay, black, and female, and “body positivity” is the left becoming female.
Likely Victoria’s secret is one hundred percent run by straight politically incorrect red pilled men with high libidos – except that they have had a morbidly obese childless female middle aged commissar of Human Resources thrust upon them, who makes sure they hire ugly models in the same way her equivalent in engineering makes sure they hire dumb tech leads.
Yes, you re right, state enforced holiness. But why is holiness heading off in this particular direction? What applecart are they seeking to knock over this time?
This time, they are not after those apples rolling around on the ground. Rather, they hoping that the apple cart owner hits them with a stick and puts them on a leash.
I disagree, unless you want to stretch the shit test concept to all of leftism.
It’s worship of anti-beauty. Fat and black is ugly, therefore it is promoted. Inversion of values. What apples are they after? In this case it is destructive envy. Hatred of the beautiful and well turned out, because they are not so, and a desire to eliminate that reminder and demoralize the spiritual enemy at the same time. I do not see a shit test here, this is not a group of fertile aged women marching around making noise and begging for attention. This is another leftie controlled megacorp pushing the inversion of all that is good, because they hate themselves just as much as they hate you.
This accurately describes modern art and modern architecture. Old buildings were built as temples to God and, more humbly, as homes for the house’s guardian angel. The gods of hearth and home are still quietly around in the Christian era. Modern office buildings are built as temples to demons.
But envy and spite would manifest as hostility to fertile women – which the Covid “vaccine” most certainly was, and child protective services most certainly are. The promotion of ugly models on the other hand is clearly not anger and hostility at pretty models, but anger and hostility at men. Therefore, shit test.
You both make good points. I think Fidelis is closer to the mark, only in that VS doing this is the culmination of a series of clouds of failed shit tests. It is not concatenated shit tests, or just a bunch of shit tests at random, rather it is more like a swarm of shit tests with the majority being failed interacting with a different swarm, also mostly failed, turning into a super cell of failed shit tests that will overwhelm an institution with the net results of they various component failed shit tests.
KD, can you create a meme with Jim bitch slapping Anglin out of his black-pilled views on Women?
I think Jim knows that Victoria’s secret advertising strategy is not a woman but I think Jim is referring to women making themselves grotesque collectively is some kind of shit test.
And I think its both state/psyop/cathedral/globohomo driven AND a shit test. The problem is that them doing this makes things much much worse for men whether they are redpilled or not. Its not like its a minority of women who have gotten this way but the vast majority now.
Wexler, owner of VS, started this trend right when the Epstein story was splashing everyone associated. So perhaps just a little bit self-serving.
Here where I live, the cheap clothing chains had a long period of putting ugly uninspiring or, shall we say, non-standard women in their ads. But now times have gotten a lot worse and the good looking girls are back again.
Obvious shit test is obvious. Anglin not recognizing the shit test for what it is is why he will continue to spew 5000 word black pilled essays on women, whereas I am wrapping up this comment because my soon-to-be-wife is almost done preparing dinner — chicory, ham, grilled cheese and mashed potatoes. It’s not in my top10 favorite dishes she makes, but a good one for sure.
A collective shit test which makes attractive women extremely rare and generally also reclusive is bad news for everyone…
Well yes, obviously it is bad.
Female emancipation was a shit-test we failed, are failing to this day. Everyday we fail it, things get worse.
In the fifties, women were on paper equal to men, and on paper free to express their sexuality, but in practice, not so much. Intergenerational habits are slow to change.
Following the sexual revolution of the sixties/seventies, women were now in practice free to express their sexuality, but still not equal to men. Women in the workplace had men playing the boss — which the women naturally loved.
So, to compete for male attention, the porn era. Women in an arms race to get the attention of men. More skin, more boobs, more sexy.
But then the final unprincipled exception collapses — women become equal to men, in practice. Men lose their dominance, lose their attractiveness. Can no longer grope women in the workplace. Metoo signaled this turning point. And this signaled to the female hindbrain: weak horse.
And so women no longer feel the need to be attractive. They are revolting against the weak horse, uglifying themselves, hoping for a strong horse to take them by the wrist and put an end to the equality. Which is happening now, and is bad news for everyone.
This is a bit meta, but I think Anglin does read here, and has seen your and others’ points, and is, albeit slowly, course correcting. The fact of the matter is that we are in mid-battle, and one of the most dangerous assets the Adversary has is weaponized female evo-psych. While we are somewhat safe here to tease out nuance and make distinctions, particularly you and I as famliy men, Anglin’s method of trench warfare needs things to be black and white to be maximally effective. The enemy is willing and able to take the fact that there are wonderful women raising children and submitting to their husbands, distill that down into An Exception, then use the exception to batter down other rhetorical frameworks.
Not trying to reignite a disagreement, just pointing out that you are doing good, our wives are worth fighting for and defending, and things can get better.
If he reads this blog, clearly does not understand it, or does not want to understand it.
About the meme with Jim He-Bitch-Man-slapping Anglin out of the Blackpill ……..
I don’t make memes, I collect them. I am a no talent hack. By the way, your other post exposed your email address, JSYK.
looked like a fake email, but fixed it nonetheless.
Thanks Alf/KD, of course it was fake. The only thing anyone can do with that is impersonate me on this blog.
As Ben Franklin used to say, neither namefag nor emailfag be.
Anglin analysis is pretty decent for someone who’s black pilled. Certainly better than Voxday. Though his idea of leaving women the right to vote is silly.
From “We just want to get married” to “We’ll chop off your daughter’s dick and send you to prison” in about ten years.
https://wjla.com/news/crisis-in-the-classroom/lgbtq-students-parents-schools-education-child-protective-services-felony-glenn-youngkin-jason-miyares-lesbian-gay-transgender-charges-virginia-sexual-orientation-gender-identity
I’m assuming this is already happening. Family courts are infamous for locking people up on the basis of contempt of court for years.
“CNN reports that Elon Musk’s SpaceX has told the US government it can no longer fund Starlink service in Ukraine.”
https://twitter.com/spectatorindex/status/1580707563888181249
Based Department? Did Musk figure out he is next on the chopping block if globohomo wins? I wonder if he has a plan figured out (this might also have something to do with the bluegov investigating his buying of twitter).
The responses are pretty whitepilling TBH. The people whining and crying Russian collusion are being ratio’d and mocked, while many are saying “good” or “make Ukraine pay.”
Musk seems to be figuring out the trajectory and realizing that you can either play hardball or no balls. Now we shall see if the Starman faction is right: does the Pentagon realize how badly they need Elon, and will this need be translated into action on his behalf?
Of all the men in high places, as far as future leadership is concerned for our side, Elon has the most potential. I don’t see him being worked over by the cathedral, and it’s doubtful anyone at Harvard is going to fool him. Short of suicide by gunshot to the back of the head, he has everything he needs to continue building power. Question is what does he really need? And what will he need in the future? If the answer to that ever becomes something like patriarchy, or the things only patriarchy can produce he would have the motive to start taking out the Cathedral elite and progressivism itself.
He seems to be on a trajectory that ultimately collides with the aristocracy.
Related to this? Don’t know if it’s real or not.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/ZjTOsbBYBB10/
What is the cost to build and launch a Starlink satellite? I’ll give a wild ass guess of maybe $10000 per unit. What’s the cost in electricity of a megawatt laser burst or microwave pulse? Maybe $5. It probably doesn’t take more than a couple of satellites getting the magic smoke let out and turned into low earth orbiting bricks to let Mr. Musk know that his commercial business model is non-viable if he keeps it up. Especially after other commercial civilian assets like pipelines and bridges have been attacked. It’s almost too obvious, even more so since Starlink was NOT a non-combatant. It’s like low hanging fruit for the Russians.
In regards to jamming, while I presume it’s difficult to jam the downlink. It would seem pretty trivial to jam the uplink by simply illuminating the satellite(s) with a few kilowatt radar beam(s). Even better with a “Slaver Sunflower” effect. It will blind the satellite to any ground stations in the regional vicinity.
Excellent Larry Niven reference.
Is it a coincidence that Musk started to U-turn on Starlink just after Anatoly Karlin advocated weaponized Kessler Syndrome?
Everyone is assuming Musk just doesn’t want Ukraine to win but maybe he doesn’t want this “side show” destroying all his space plans.
Check out this Wagner group video. Pay attention to the imagery and composition:
https://t.me/covidvaccinescam/34168
Blood and Soil Christian Nationalism. Interesting. Explicit references to the Orthodox Church and to the Rus.
Although I am going to ruin it, right now we are 69 comments away from 1,488, lol.
Any translation of the lyrics available?
I found this:
“Bands of war for fire are born
For battles without any idylls
Where, under the cries of Chimeras, conductor Lucifer
Controls the flight of the Valkyries.
So come on, Wagner, play
Raise your orchestra members
Raise with a light stroke of the bow
Our Russian PMC.”
Much appreciated.
I am fond of saying that the war in Ukraine is a holy war, demon worshipers are trying to conquer the world, and you have to bring a a gun to a gunfight, and faith to a holy war.
For Russia to win, Russia has to invoke the power of Christ.
I am not yet seeing Putin invoke the power of Christ. But I now see the Wagner group invoke the power of Christ. https://t.me/covidvaccinescam/34168
Patriarch of Moscow and all Rus’ and Primate of the Russian Orthodox Church Patriarch Kirill has declared that this the holy war that it is, and also declared Putin Holy Emperor appointed by God. (Maybe he is reading this blog, or influenced by someone who is.)
Putin, however, has not decisively spoken the words that would declare memetic sovereignty, which is worrying.
Here’s another video, not Wagner, but just general Russian military:
https://youtu.be/_IcZUI2YZpA
General “cool military” imagery – whole video
Cultural celebration imagery – 01:20
Orthodox imagery – 01:52 (and elsewhere)
Powerful governance imagery – 02:41
Martial religiosity imagery – 03:15
National identity imagery – 03:30
There’s also at least 2 instances of “lady warrior” imagery, which is hard to avoid for white countries these days.
Not the Russian government speaking.
Fair point, but consider how we take the things said by charities, NGOs, news media, entertainment corporations, and companies. They are not USG, but they speak for the Cathedral. The meta-complex that is the Polygon is a hydra. So too is the elite culture of Russia. We paint the Cathedral with a broad brush, and we should, but there is resistance and dissent within the elite ranks. The inverse is the case in Russia, though not to the same degree on either side. Thus, the members of formal government don’t have the latitude of their inverted counterparts in USG.
The Voice of the Cathedral transmits the messaging of the Brain. Initially, they had to do it in very tiny (comparatively) doses. As they consolidated their power, the little bits of feces in the wine barrel become fetid piles of shit, and now it’s mostly waste with barely any wine. Russia is at a much earlier stage of an inverted progression. Thus, they are not free to just cram whatever they wish into the messaging. They let the media content producers include as much or as little as they deem fitting. As they consolidate further, as they extinguish pozzed voices and GAE elements, the messaging can (I believe will) become more explicit.
We are so used to institutions turning on a dime and over saturating memetic transfer that it seems fractured, glacial, or insufficient when we look at Russia. We have discussed Musk time; we are looking at Putin time. If you recalibrate to his clock, things look substantially different. If Putin had launched the SMO in February with a “Gas the demons, holy war now” how popular would that have been with the elites? His deft touch and compassion with the AFU was a tactical blunder, but it’s starting to seem like a strategic master stroke in the war for Russian culture. By next February, he may be able to step in front of the Russian elites with a crown and sword, Patriarch Kiril beside… And there I go, using Musk time. So maybe no imperial restoration any time soon in the Rodina. But Putin is not a Cathedralite and Russia is not the Occident. They, and he, must move at the proper speed for their culture. The hour is late, and we need a Caesar, but as we all know and hate, no one is coming to save us.
Maybe I’m being too optimistic, and maybe you and I are both too hasty and/or impatient. But I choose to believe St. Angling: God has a plan, and He already won; nothing can stop the raids and persecution coming at us; all we must do is tell the truth, choose good over evil, and find and nurture beautiful things.
Here’s another video:
https://t.me/Slavyangrad/14087
Faith that walks the walk.
Here’s another video, but of the other side’s perspective:
https://t.me/Slavyangrad/14050
Putin may not be stating what needs to be stated (I disagree, BTW, that address he made said it all), but the forces of evil see Putin as an avenging fire that needs to be quenched.
This [Huge icons of the Theotokos have appeared in Moscow] may be a start.
The great Cathedral was the start. The icons of the Theotkos are another important step in that direction. Patriarch Kirill doing what this blog says the high priest should be doing is a huge step in that direction.
But Caesar needs to exercise memetic sovereignty. Which Putin is hesitant to do, perhaps because a declaration of memetic sovereignty is likely to result in World War III.
Capitol riot committee proceedings are under way. Say your prayers and place your bets.
If Trump sets foot in the capital he doesn’t leave.
Seems best if he stays away. Do the interview by video if needed, it’s hardly unknown. But if he does, only with a million man armed (and of course peaceful) bodyguard.
Trump still doesn’t know the score. He’s going to either stay away and be frogged marched by the FBI into DC or he’s going to show up and be charged with lying under oath for telling the truth or some such other bullshit.
And on the possibly lighter side: defector from Mormon polygamist cult details it all. The horror, the horror.
https://archive.ph/BKJsc
Morality debates aside, I am impressed by the sheer logistics. Assuming this mother was above average fertile, 5 children per wife still equals 70 children. That’s ridiculous. How do you arrange for all that to function.
Lol, hive-mind Alf!
Probably because the rest of the women help out until the first few kids are old enough to look after the younger kids. Once you get that rolling, then it becomes much easier. Set up those responsibilities early and get them used to helping out. Then there is also the generational element, where the older women are helping their daughters out. It would require a strong sense of community, but clearly it is doable.
Yes I think you’re right. And as the article says:
Get the women to help each other out raising kids, maintain strict chain of command among the men, reinforce roles in the church and communal activities. Honestly, good gig, pretty impressive.
The major kinks seem to me that you’ll run out of women, and you’ll have to marry second cousins and such with each other. Not sure if those two are related.
A lot of nice-looking girls in those pictures. None fat. An American would have to be crazy not to convert.
“Kollene was allowed to go to public school when she was in kindergarten, and being in the ‘real world’ made her realize at a young age that her life in The Order was not normal and that she wanted to leave the sect.”
If you go to the trouble of establishing a closed, atypical society, why in fuck would you send the kids to outside schools?
Ms. Complainy-slut was one of twelve kids from 1 of 14 wives. Think on those numbers, gentlemen.
Thinking on those numbers, I wonder what happened to the 13 other men? I am assuming they still have a 1.02:1 ratio of males to females born. Where are all the other men? The only ways that works out is if either the birthrate is massively skewed, or they are running out their sons. Both indicate a problem, whether environmental or social, and in either case this only lasts while things are peaceful. Once wife raiding becomes common due to breakdowns in order, those people are fucked.
Don’t they count on outside women converting to (this particular polygamous subset of) mormonism? Not sure how the seduction part turns out, but to women it does have the alpha male harem appeal.
Yeah, I think this level of bride hoarding may easily become a major social problem if it isn’t already.
As to what happens to the surplus males, another article about other Mormon polygamists mentioned that they get kicked out of the community at the age of majority. Also seems like a social problem in waiting.
It may also be difficult to guard 14 wives so I wonder what the level of paternity testing may be.
>get kicked out of the community at the age of majority
try 13, or sometimes even younger. Imagine one day your dad takes you on a road trip. Several hundred miles away he drops you off the side of the road. You wonder around and find a whole community of other abandoned boys living in plywood shacks with the rare drop off of government assistance food.
Well, that tears it for me. It would be a pleasure to smoke these faggots and redistribute their ill gotten gains amongst the men. What an awful insult to GNON’s gift of sons.
Horrible. That’s a fundamental reason why Early Christianity required Monogamy. Especially the Church Fathers too.
Polygamists who convert ought to keep their current wives but stop marrying anymore. But the next generation must be monogamous.
They dump their excess sons who mostly end up as illiterate unemployed drains on society forever collecting government handouts. Many end up in Arizona living in nearly all male communes in the middle of the desert because the cults have enough brains to not keep a bunch of potential problems around. I visited one of those communes when I drove through Arizona once and got to talk to some of them. They were dropped off the side of the road with nothing to their name, no life skills, and no clue on what to do to survive, some at the age of 13.
It is demonic. I’m not strictly against polygamy that happens naturally since many men simply never marry regardless of the social environment, but artificially induced polygamy on the scale of these cults always ends in human sacrifice of their own sons.
Reaaally? Sounds like the kind of thing that’d garner more attention? At any rate, if true, all shades of f*cked up.
Yeah, it is true. The government is not that interested is solving the problem of a bunch of useless men, because men. Getting them the skills to survive would harm women or support the patriarchy somehow, so they get left to suffer.
These cult men are scum. They enhance their own reproductive fitness at the expense of their sons, and then abandon them. They are evil and deserve to be burned at the stake for what they do to their own blood. It would be one thing to seduce loose women and end up with a few extra wives and mistresses. This is wicked.
Completely unrelated, I just found out about a place to hire some grunts at low cost ::sunglasses smiley face::
OK I did some digging and I have to agree. A huge reproductive ponzy scheme.
That John Kingston guy has at least 157 kids! I can’t help but be somewhat impressed, but the hubris that kind of scheme leaves behind… Burn in hell man, burn in hell.
Marrying your second cousin is getting lucky it seems, some are wedded to first cousins or even half-brothers.
What kind of subhuman monster does not celebrate his sons? That poor man in the video was devastated. I know exactly that look on his face. That was a man trying desperately not to cry because he is in terrible pain. Who could call himself a man and still do that to his son?
Also note that Kingston is presumably not supporting those kids from the sweat of his brow (or his wives brows), but is likely to get something from his co-cultists. That makes it basically just a big-man cult, though probably more successful than the new age ones.
What about Joseph Smith himself? Wikipedia lists him as having 28-49 wives (so possibly a bit of playtime for historians) but perhaps one third* of those were of a certain age (say 35+) or outright old (50 or older). I’m guessing they had a principle of marrying off widows and similar rather than letting them stay unattached.
(* I invite some reader to properly count.)
Joseph Smith had no kids with his extra wives. Brigham Young and Heber C. Kimball had 60+ each. For the decades polygamy was practiced, only like 2% of the men had extra wives and usually like 5, so in a community of 80k, it wasn’t too noticeable.
I’ve lived where you can see a polyg community from the road and you hear about the boys who leave, but not the girls. The boys leave, instead of being dropped off on the side of the road, because they are not brought up to be a patriarch. So why put up with all the nonsense and authority if you don’t even get a wife? Maybe in Arizona they are dropped off, but if there is a decent sized city to go to, the young men will go on their own.
Hope you’re doing ok, Pax. You still drinking heavy? No judgement here; I lived out of a bottle for 4 years. But I hope you are finding something better to do with the mind God gifted you.
It’s basically ghetto style (or African style) reproduction, though with a couple of twists. When the boy gets old enough to leave his mum, let him fend for himself on the corner, or in the village mob, or in the longhouse.
Off topic. Was reading some spin off anecdotes of the “hamburger” shooting regarding cop abuse. One was a guy in a rental car that was erroneously reported stolen. Driver (white), with child in car, was aggressively threatened and pulled out at gun point.
This got me speculatively thinking. What if you’re caravanning with one or more other cars and you get pulled out of your car at gunpoint, and at the same time, one of your “buddy” cars pulls over 100 yards back and he gets out and gets behind the car? I imagine the cop(s) would go ape shit! LOL. I wonder if they already have training/procedure for this?
I strongly doubt that officers are trained to do ANYTHING when surprised by superior numbers of armed personnel yelling at them to get on the ground or be put under it. Would be hilarious to watch them piss their pants though.
poasting a curious specimen
https://youtu.be/ziUZyQmHh4c
Too many red flags to count. Obvious leftie signalling in appearance, pronoun compliance in his bio, as well as, and perhaps more importantly, a former Zcash guy.
But this project seems faithfully done, a private cross chain exchange market. It also runs deeper, as, according to this interview, this is only the proof of concept first step into a more comprehensive and workable digital exchange system.
At 8:45 our subject goes into describing what jim has described here countless times, that a complete digital payments system includes communication and metadata. That this project is the minimum viable execution of that goal, where at least there is crossflow of information between parties.
Henry de Valence has blue hair~
He is also a Zcash veteran, and zcash was sort of a scam, or was cargo cult cryptography.
And he has blue hair.
But the idea seems brilliant. You transfer value from an open and public chain to this shielded chain, and then, under another id you transfer it back.
What he is proposing is an anonymized untraceable dex. Which is a really good idea.
He is seriously thinking about what the new advances in cryptography makes possible. Smart guy with good and important ideas.
But, he has blue hair.
On the other hand, anyone who notes that the government kills people based on metadata just has to be one of the good guy cryptographers.
That is a shill/entryist test for cryptographers. It is like a purported Christian nationalist affirming that Jesus Christ is Lord. If a Christian nationalist says Jesus Christ is Lord, unlikely to be an enemy entryists against Christian Nationalism, and if a cryptographer says the government kills people based on metadata, unlikely to be an enemy entryist against privacy and security.
As with Milo and Bronze Age Pervert, getting mixed signals here, but Milo is one of the good guys, and, while remaining deeply suspicious (he has blue hair) I am inclined to think Henry de faggot is one of the good guys.
Giving benefit of the doubt, perhaps this is an obfuscation mechanism. Oh no worries to you, dear overlords, for I am under your tribe. So saying, I think he’s Canadian, that makes it more likely he’s just a faggot with an inclination towards cypherpunk aesthetic.
Penumbra is very interesting, they are doing more than just a shielded DEX. They are building shielded delegations for proof of stake: https://penumbra.zone/blog/shielded-staking-is-here/ an absolutely essential component for the vision of a coercion-resistant money coordination system.
https://penumbra.zone/team
A couple of faggots, a freak, and a woman. Not exactly who I would expect would be able to pull off anything useful at all.
I did run my eye over Henry de Faggot’s twitter and he seemed, like Thiel, to be a very competent man who also loves cock.
A huge problem with Penumbra is that it is designed to work in the Ether ecosystem, which is wholly enemy controlled.
A lot of leftists sincerely buy the rhetoric that the world is crushed under the heel of white heteronormative male misogynist capitalists, and leftism is all about fighting power for freedom.
And then they actually fight power for freedom and are promptly crushed like bugs by the left. I think Henry de Faggot is actually fighting power for freedom, and thinks Ether is a great place to do that because full of fellow leftists
They are not building for Ether, but Cosmos. I don’t smell anything rotten coming out of the cosmos related teams.
The smartest man in the room (don’t just take my word for it; ask him yourself) Vox Day has been swindled out of a million dollars or so. Yes, Mr. “What part of don’t talk to the Media do you retards not understand” hooked up with some Hollyweird types and then proceeded to fork over the funds for some movie project to some even shadier characters. And he is now reliant on the FBI to rectify the situation.
I genuinely like Vox Day and have learned a lot over the years from his blog, but the nigga really needs to work on his hubris.
His ego neutered an effectiveness he could have had long ago.
Got an links fam? Genuinely interested…
https://voxday.net/2022/10/13/rebels-run-update-3/
He went into more detail on his UATV podcast last night, but you need a subscription to access that. I’ve got one to support Razorfist, Prince of Profanity, and that lets me access several other channels including VD’s.
Brings back memories of a client who got into massive legal trouble for selling stock in his father’s company without contacting his lawyers beforehand.
Vox is a moron for placing the $1m security in the hands of a single person who could distribute it without authorization from anyone else. If the producer were smart, he could steal the money and claim ignorance, assuming this is not what he did.
Also, two cents of advice here, you should vet potential business partners before you contact them, not after. This reminds me of all those morons who invested in Bernie Madoff without doing the 20 minutes of research necessary to discover that the sole firm auditing his entire multi-billion dollar Ponzi scheme was a one-man operation located in a strip mall behind a grocery store in Rockland County.
Stopped reading Vox after he went full Qtard. Actual UHIQ people (this stands for “ultra-high IQ,” gammas) never go full Qtard.
Hey -fugue, what guidance can you give me on business stuff? You tossed out a comment like:
“you should vet potential business partners before you contact them, not after.”
which seems logical enough, but let me paint you a picture:
A young man has a story. He slaves over it for years, teaching himself to write, re-drafting, adding, editing, until he has something that shines. He has people read it, they tell him it’s great, but empty accolades don’t get things produced. One day, he crosses paths with a “producer” who tells him he has all the contacts he needs. The producer introduces the man to a director, a cinematographer, various department keys, and it finally seems like he’s going somewhere. The producer says he has a financer who is willing to match any investment over X. If the man can raise X, he will have it doubled, and he will be off to the races. He begs and borrows and builds, calling in every favor and family member, and just barely raises X. The producer is impressed, and says everything is lined up, he just needs to prove to the financier that the money is real. So he tells the man to transfer it to him, and then the financier will match, and they can get started. The story has two endings: the funds get matched, the movie gets made, and the battle to get it bought/distributed begins; the last time the man hears from the producer is when he confirms that the money has transferred and the financier is being contacted.
This may sound fantastical, but it is actually a common story. There are so many elements to getting pictures made, so many grifters and schemers. At every stage in the process, one can trip up. Where does a man go to get good financial guidance and legal advice?
Heh!
At that instant, the man should know he is being scammed, no further research being needed.
But, since a scammer is looking for something for nothing, you can always scam a scammer.
See, this is what confuses me: that kind of matching does actually happen. Like, a pool of investors will commit to doing a 4mil injection if the producers can secure another 4 mil. Sometimes, an angel will commit to a guaranteed 2mil injection if a crowdfund hits 100K. It all sounds like a scam! Consider how movies get made for 20mil and barely crack 4 at the box office, but the industry rolls on, and people keep working. I know there are schemes used to hide money (Dark Knight was somehow a loss that required insurance payouts, etc), but I just don’t get how to safely take investment, get people paid, and make good products while staying insulated from insider risks. If I get the funds and make a movie and no one likes it, that’s the creative risk, very inline with slaving away on a script for 3 years that no one ever buys. Unavoidable risk. But the financial side of things is so overwhelming, and where are the based & redpilled lawyers and accountants?
I imagine there are legitimate escrow companies one can use.
The matching does not involve trusting the matcher with the money.
Typical scenario that I am a little bit familiar with. There is a project, on which a great deal of money has been spent. Arguably it now looks promising, but it is going to go on losing money for some time with no money coming in. At the moment it is owned by the programmers, in highly unequal amounts, (early programmers own a hell of a lot more than later programmers) and by the angel investors. And it is out of money. Looking for more money. Which means that existing people have to reach into their pockets and wind up owning more of the project, or outside people have to reach into their pockets. The show goes on the road, the outsiders are unimpressed. Then one guy who is rich because he has made a lot of good calls wants to invest, then suddenly lots of people want to invest in whatever he is investing in. They cut a deal, that so and so will invest X, that this other guy will invest Y, and so on and so forth. And after the deal is done, all the money and ownership changes hands, or none of it does. It is what engineers call an atomic transaction, not sure what accountants and lawyers call it, and one of the services provided (at enormous expense) by the FIRE sector of the economy is such atomic transactions.
Digressing, a blockchain typically provides atomic transactions at a few cents apiece. While atomic transactions are a useful and necessary service, lots of people provide this service way cheaper than the stock market and banks.
An atomic transaction mediated by a regulated financial entity means you are trusting that financial entity (which due to moral decay of the elite is becoming more and more dangerous) but you do not have to trust your counterparties to the deal. The deal happens in full, or does not happen at all. (Or a major and well known financial institution steals everyone’s money because sexism, racism, antisemitism, Covid, and Russia.)
It is difficult to respond to this example because there are so many things wrong here. Jim identifies the producer demanding the young man to wire his money as the point at which he ought to know he is being scammed, but the entire story seems sketchy.
Speaking from personal experience, directors have massive egos and any competent one would never be “introduced” to a lowly screenwriter by his producer. If a real director likes a script, he will ask for the rights to the screenplay and then involve his producer.
Why does the producer like the young man? Sure, he wrote an interesting screenplay, but why would the producer trust him? Does he dress well? Does he come from a similar educational, socioeconomic, ethnic or religious background? Does he have proper etiquette? What is his work experience? If the young man is not competent or skilled enough to be his own director, why not ask for the screenplay and leave the young man out of the production? Why is the producer building a business relationship with the young man? Why ask for the young man’s money; doesn’t the producer know that all young screenwriters are broke? etc. etc. etc.
If the producer desired the young man’s work, he would be asking the young man to write more screenplays, not to collect money.
In business, no one cares about you, no one cares if you die, no one cares if your mother dies, no one cares. The only thing people care about in the world of business is money, and if you forget that you are going to get eaten. The young man reeks of low self-esteem, and those are the easiest to scam.
The general rule when dealing with people in a financial environment is, if this guy tries to f*** me over, can I sue him? If my board tries to subvert my leadership, can I bring them down into hell with me? To find out the answers to these questions, contact your lawyers.
This may not be the answer you wish to hear, but regarding good financial guidance, you have to figure it out yourself. Sure, you can seek a mentor, but the mentor will only tell you his habits, not the right path for you. You have to be at the right place at the right time, do the right things, make the right decisions, and most importantly get lucky. Most people have average jobs because most people cannot handle stress under pressure and the risks of business. With regard to legal advice, contact your lawyers. Lawyers make fortunes because without them ensuring that every party behaves, no one can do business.
Not how the lawyers I have done business with make money.
You arrange your affairs so that you do not have to trust people for too much money – there is usually some method for doing this, escrow and similar arrangements. And you trust people for stuff that they have been trusted for before and come through on.
Near as I can figure, lawyers are bagmen to keep the state off your back. When people get sued, it is for acting rightly while in possession of deep pockets, not for acting wrongly.
Lawyers keep the state off your back, but your business partners can be just as much of a threat to you as the state. Escrow works because the state is willing to enforce fair play on each party involved, and lawyers are the mediators between each party, the state, and each other. Client parties are means by which people in the financial world build “trust,” but when it comes to money there is no one who is truly trustworthy. If you do not make the necessary connections with the right bagmen, other men with their bagmen will try to steal your money.
I knew a man who had his entire fortune worth ~$600 million seized by the courts. He fought and managed to get it back with the help of a massive army of lawyers, but on the implicit condition that he would have to resign from the board of his company.
No. Escrow works because the Escrow agency is honest (you hope). If it decided to screw you, the state would not do a damned thing.
I stand corrected.
I have never engaged in large financial transactions without making sure I could unleash lawyers on potential backstabbers.
Legit business partners make things very easy for you and do not object to diligence, contracts, auditing, etc.
If you actually intend to make money by selling to clients, with the assistance of a partner, you will have no reason not to prove this and you will be motivated to secure the assistance of the partner by proving this. Any red flag basically shows that a proposed deal is junk.
You will learn this from experience if you live long enough.
Yeah, at least call your stolid banker and ask about well-known reliable escrow firms.
With that said, it seems like a brazen scam and it can be difficult to protect yourself from those. Bankers are not 100% reliable with client funds either.
lmao
Everyone is free to point and laugh from the cheap seats. While you may not like Vox for whatever reason, what happened to him is not rare. It could very well have been the error of a novice, and it could also be targeted destruction by devious means. Without seeing the case, couldn’t prove otherwise. But gatekeeping in film is not just restricted the creative side. This sucks for more people than just Vox. Financial management is one of those “critical infrastructure” elements that seems like a common exploit for right wing creativity. While we seem to have many big brains in computers and literature, it would be nice if we had some competent financial managers as well.
You are correct, KD, and I want to make clear that I’m poking VD, not this project specifically. For the record, I’ve donated several times over the years to some of his publishing projects and do not regret any of it.
This one however I didn’t because it seemed way too ambitious for this stage of the game. But I do not laugh at anyone who did. My mirth is strictly aimed at Ted E. Beale, Super Genius:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=STeVTzWelns
1. It’s well known that film financing uses nefarious means to exclude right wingers.
2. VD is an astute, aggressively right wing businessman.
3. VD getting scammed by film financiers “could happen to anyone”,
seems like mountainous egos run in his family, his father ended up in prison for blatantly doing the “I am a sovereign citizen and openly refuse to pay taxes” thing… and it worked out as well as that usually does.
I’m sure everyone here has already seen it:
https://twitter.com/BabelHodl/status/1578583611451748352
Russia’s improving their meme game bit by bit.
Lol, very good. They didn’t even have to roll out the gays and trannies to make their point.
Forgive MOTHER RUSSIA! We’re coming back!
https://neurotoxinweb.wordpress.com/
I’ve been reading Neurotoxin blog and it’s quite interesting. I had been leaning towards viewing him as a shill, but after reading 30 or 40 of his blog posts that seems very unlikely. He comes across as English major. Excellent writing, lots of literary quotes, but light on logic and reading between the lines with history.
Discovering that General Butt Naked is a real guy is quite funny. The first thing I would have done when hearing a about a guy named General Butt Naked is either ask who is he or google it. Damn I love those old Vice videos.
But that’s consistent with NT English major/literary focused. Generally everything we talk about his rooted in historical fact because we’re history guys. We generally don’t invent things for literary usefulness to explain ideas because there’s always a real historical example of a behavior or idea in action. We don’t need to invent General Butt Naked because such men do exist and have always existed. Literary guys are adapt invent things like General Butt Naked to make a point.
NT makes logical leaps all over the place without really showing how he got from A->C->M->Z. Going from A->Z usually isn’t an issue with ideas that everyone knows and agrees with, but NT goes from A->Z and expects people to understand all the logical steps he took between A and Z. That has led to a lot of weird arguments with him on this blog. He doesn’t explain his reasoning and the leap from A->Z and thus A->Z seems incorrect without that explanation. Typically one should explain the steps that lead from A->Z so that the points can be argued and tested for validity if there isn’t agreement on the logical leap.
NT might want to spend more time asking questions about others arguments and flushing out the steps in his own arguments. It should lead to better debate.
We’ve had funny debates with Neuro before, most prominently on him not believing our conviction that many of the Roterham girls had purposely been putting themselves in situations to be gangraped. This was funny because on his blog Neuro extensively writes about the dark sexual nature of women, prompting Jim to jest that maybe Neuro should read his own blog.
But we made amends since. Hopefully we will do so again.
“NT goes from A->Z and expects people to understand all the logical steps he took between A and Z.”
The universe, including my blog apparently, is a Rorschach test.
– – – – – – – – – –
alf: “…Rotherham…”
God no. Not again.
“But we made amends since. Hopefully we will do so again.”
I hope there’s nothing to make amends about; we’re just having a disagreement.
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Orthodox (Lesser) Jihad.
https://twitter.com/RWApodcast/status/1580224092468174848
Lots of people who never knew Jesus, and who Jesus never knew, can claim to be Christians. But you know it’s on when there are icons of Mary seen from the streets.
As Jim predicted long ago, Ethereum is controlled by enemies.
Ethereum relays are censoring transactions/blocks that are not OFAC compliant. The percentage of blocks that are OFAC compliant is steadily rising, and now over 50%:
https://www.mevwatch.info/
I’m no blockchain expert, but seems like the change from PoW to PoS has made things easier to censor. Probably why they came for tornado cash when they did?
https://twitter.com/CryptoSeq/status/1578738697738256386
“With PoW even though 80-90% used flashbots, miners had the ability to include OFAC transactions in addition to the bundle offered by flashbots, whereas with the current PoS implementation builders provide the entire block and no additional tx can be added by the validator”
Had to look up “OFAC” – Office of Foreign Asset Control. Now that sounds quite Orwellian if you ask me.
Bruh, what is up with the retardness of our enemies, Paypal is sticking it to ‘disinformation’ by charging fines of 2500 to anyone they catch like wtf. You have a website where as long as someone has there account on it you can get tons of information on them and you drive them away with some paltry fee? Completely retardation, but feels like its just the first rollout before they get banks to do the same.
If our enemies were actually smart, they wouldn’t be hack-sawing these kinds of methods together in order to stick it to whitey, and I’m not gonna bother giving them any ideas.
The point is control. Government can’t “legally” fine free speech, so the unofficial organs of the government does it for them.
Looking at Charles the second, who had complete power and legitimate authority to silence speech, he seemed to rely primarily on gentler and subtler measures remarkably similar to those deployed today. Well, that, and burning a difficult woman at the stake.
The trouble is that if you overtly silence speech, you Streisand it.
Want to get this down while I’m thinking of it. Below, some of us are having what diplomats call a “frank exchange of views” on the question of whether the educational institutions in the US have always been leftist or whether the left infiltrated them starting some time in the twentieth century (particularly the 1960s, but I’m flexible on that).
A related question arose: How do we identify a state religion?
One narrowing down came from a few of us, in different formulations: If you get your ass beaten down for saying X, then X definitely is not part of the state religion. But then Jim pointed out that the left always devours its own. And in deed, this is one of the eternal leftist patterns. So here’s a puzzler:
During the French Revolution…
1. The revolutionaries beheaded the King. The King was definitely not consistent with the new state religion.
2. The revolutionaries also beheaded Robespierre, who definitely was part of the new state religion.
Now one might say, “Since the new state killed him, he obviously was not part of the new state religion.” I can’t buy that.
So how do we identify a state religion? What lets us say, “Killing the King was the new religion killing a member of the old religion, but killing Robespierre was a case of the religion devouring its own”?
We may have to take the approach that one (apocryphal?) judge famously took toward pornography: “I can’t define it, but I know it when I see it.” But we should be able to do better.
What is to explain? State religions in the midst of power struggles change with the power struggle. You are looking for an essence, but the essence of power struggles is ‘I get to be in charge and the other guy dies’.
The state religion is whatever system the state tells people to believe.
It is completely obvious.
The state religion commands state power and is backed by state power. You can see the power. You can see the power now, and if you go all the way back a century or two or three you can see the power, exercised in roughly the same manner, applied by similar instruments, and radiating out of the same institutions and organization.
And the proposition that blacks are equal to whites except more equal than whites has been backed by Harvard which was backed by and part of state power in New England since well before the civil war.
Power makes the state religion. Power then and power now. And since then they have been cleaning up unprincipled exceptions and little hypocrisies, unveiling their full madness and evil in the process.
Robespierre was a participant in the state church until his participation was cut short. He was only part of it until he was not, which should be obvious. The state religion took a turn and he did not pivot quickly enough, so he got run over. He was killed by state power, in the name of the revolution. He was a victim(well deserved) of the state church, and to try to argue otherwise is an exercise in absurdity.
“Robespierre was a participant in the state church until his participation was cut short. [LOL.] He was a victim (well deserved) of the state church, and to try to argue otherwise is an exercise in absurdity.”
I wouldn’t dream of arguing otherwise. I used this example precisely because it’s so stark. Of course R. was a member of the state church, and an example of the Revolution devouring its own.
But how do we explain this to a man from Mars? We could go with what you, Jim, Red, and S are saying above, which is basically, “The state religion is what state power tells people to believe.” That’s a good start.
But if that’s our definition, then we have to stop saying “If you’re getting your ass kicked for saying X, then X is definitely not part of the state religion.” Robespierre makes that approach all fuzzy.
Robespierre got killed for saying that certain important members of the state church needed to die. Needless to say, certain important members of the state church had a sudden revelation and decided that this was heresy. He was executed for that heresy, for crimes against the revolution. It was the state church deciding that being too holy in that direction was definitely heresy, not at all acceptable. The revolution is supposed to kill the ruling class to make everyone equal, but trying to make everyone more equal by attacking the totally equal, definitely-not-ruling class of the revolution is right out.
In the frame of, “If you’re getting your ass kicked for saying X, then X is definitely not part of the state religion,” X was, ‘Let’s go fucking kill those guys,” and those guys decided that, “Let’s go fucking kill those guys,” was, in fact, totally heresy and absolutely not a part of the state religion. Robespierre does not make it fuzzy, he is actually totally consistent with the state religion stepping down on the necks of heretics and apostates.
“Robespierre got killed for saying that certain important members of the state church needed to die. Needless to say, certain important members of the state church had a sudden revelation and decided that this was heresy.”
Yes. I’ve been reflecting on this in the last day or two and realized that my thinking about this in terms of the sincere ideological opinions of Robespierre and his opponents (“state religion”) was silly.
Robespierre, as you say, got whacked because he was a threat to other guys, who got to him before he could get to them. And the same goes for Stalin and Trotsky. Contra what I said, or implied, below, Stalin didn’t kill Trotsky because they had honest disagreements about Marxist-Lenninist theory. (LOL, what was I thinking?) Stalin – a power politics guy if there ever was one – killed Trotsky because he (correctly) perceived Trotsky as a threat to his power. A sincere clash of doctrines had nothing to do with it.
Stalin spent a great deal of time explaining why Trotsky was a dangerous heretic before he had him offed. Just like the founding fathers spent a great deal of time justifying war against England in religious terms before they declared war.
Religion gives legitimacy to rulers. It’s been the foundation of civilization since day one. No religious legitimacy and it doesn’t matter how many men you command, you’ll end up dead like Lavrentiy Beria. Men won’t fight hard without a faith.
Beria tried to roll back Marxism and the people around him realizing he was a heretic removed him from power despite Beria having the state security forces under his control.
Exactly so. Stalin spent an enormous amount of time and effort setting up a theologically correct justification for nailing Trotsky, and he had a pretty convincing argument, given the reality that further movement left was likely to be even more destructive than the existing movement left (which proposition Trotskyites of course do not accept)
And similarly, Henry the eighth had a compelling argument for dissolving the monasteries – and all movements descended from the Church of England seem to have accepted the argument as true, so it was not just power speaking to truth. Vast numbers of Christians whose faith and sincerity is undeniable have continued to accept the principles and implications of his argument. Because they were damned good principles.
Jim, Red,
Sure, but it’s not as if Stalin was sincere. Or that he would have let Trotsky live if Trotsky had been saying something else.
I have read Stalin. My gut feeling is that he was sincere. Beria was a cynic. Stalin, I am pretty sure, believed. Lenin was something of cynic and hypocrite, but Stalin and Trotsky strike me as true believers.
Hard to know the human heart, and in any case it contains multitudes, but he seemed to me a true believer.
“I have read Stalin. My gut feeling is that he was sincere.”
Evo psych. If Trotsky had been saying different things, Stalin would have sincerely believed that those things were heresies that made it necessary to kill Trotsky. Since Trotsky, due to his prominence, was a threat to Stalin’s position, there’s no level of impeccable Marxist theory Trotsky could have spouted that would have protected him.
There was a genuine and sincere disagreement over what true Marxism entailed, Trotsky being well to the left of Stalin. Being lefter had been a reliable path to power – until it suddenly became a reliable path to the gulag.
They believed.
These were evil people who sincerely believed evil things, and Stalin was willing to kill and die for those things.
Lots of people believed things that did not make them a threat to Stalin and the Soviet Union. For the most part Stalin did not kill them. Lots of people believed things similar to what Trotsky believed. Stalin did kill them, prominent or not, because their beliefs were a threat to Stalin and the Soviet Union. Stalin did what the Thermidorean reaction failed to do.
This was not two men contending for power, but two systems of belief contending for power.
The Thermidoreans believed they were merely fighting a man. The Paris Commune revealed their error.
Stalin never had the slightest doubt that he was fighting an idea.
Trotsky beliefs was fueling the Red Terror where the Bolsheviks where spent their time and energy murdering each other in a holiness spiral. Trotsky wanted this spiral to continue, Stalin wanted it stopped and the Russian economy rebuilt. With Trotsky in charge the killing my have gone the way of Pol Pot.
Stalin’s religious beliefs were not sane, was far more sane than Trotsky’s.
Beria didn’t have a religion, Stalin did which is why Stalin was able to rule and Beria wasn’t.
Finally, most of what we hear about Stalin and Trotsky in the west comes from the Trotskites, or as we know them the Neo-Conservatives. So our view of Trotsky tends to be more mild that it should be and our view of Stalin is distorted by Trotskite propaganda.
Red no Trotsky wanted them to mostly kill non communists at a Khmer Rogue scale… the Bolsheviks until Stalin generally didn’t kill each other they killed other communist groups though.
Stalin was fine with killing other communists he in fact killed almost all of them, but he was less keen on terrorizing the working population especially if they were ethnic Russians. He for reasons that have become very clear lately really really did not like Poles even after he got absolute power and mostly stopped terrorizing Russians…
The Poles actively fighting for the GAE and trying to start WW3 was not in my prediction book. I mean there’s useful idiots and then there’s useful idiots like the Poles supporting Nazis who want them dead while serving the Gay American Empires that’s planning on castrating their children and handing them over to faggots.
They’re simply too stupid to be given a nation state.
My understanding of Soviet Politics was the holiness spiral was killing the Bolsheviks in general along with the common people. Trotsky was urging that this meat grinder continue why Stalin was making speeches about calming down and stop killing everyone.
Once in power he had a lot of Trotskists to liquidate along with purging a red army that had been largely built by Trotsky and was probably loyal to Trotsky.
There were phases of Soviet terrors as I understand it
Phase One: The civil war, mass often random killings (1917-1921). The Bolsheviks did not kill each other they often killed rival communist groups and the rival communist groups would also kill them. They killed party splitters sometimes but you had to deliberately disobey orders openly for that. Beria managed to escape execution (he was on almost all the lists as an anti communists) by volunteering to help the Bolsheviks kill other communists. Also millions starve and some literally resort to murder and cannibalism.
Phase two: NEP era, terror is very light and few people starve but the Bolsheviks generally hate and despise the NEP. Trotsky especially. They would never tolerate it as a permanent situation.
Phase three: Collectivization era (very late 20s early 30s), mass terror against population and mass starvation. Stalin acceded reluctantly to it knowing he couldn’t stop it without getting purged… but then tried to slow it down.
Phase four: The so called Great terror 1937-1938, Stalin manages to win emergency powers to purge the party of a counter revolutionary plot (no doubt directed by Trotsky in league with foreign powers) after the attempted murder of Kirov… eventually he decides most of the original Bolsheviks were involved. This was when Stalin was really killing Bolsheviks. During the 1st part of it though ordinary Russians were often randomly arrested as well.
Phase five: After Stalin gets rid of the psycho communists who were killing everyone Regime terror against ethnic Russians outside the government prettymuch stops completely. The military is purged and ethnic groups that Stalin distrusts on the eve of a major war are kicked out of institutions and moved far away from the border of Reich occupied Europe to Siberia.
Postwar…Stalin actually abolished the death penalty within the Soviet Union after the war for a while it got brought back right before he died but the only terror was in the occupied countries in Eastern Europe… which was sometimes bad as certainly many of those countries did not want to go communist.
Jim, Red:
Regrading Stalin? Come now. Think of all the people Stalin killed whose beliefs obviously had nothing to do with it, whose beliefs he couldn’t even have known.
Ukrainians, all the various purges aimed at very different groups of people…
“This was not two men contending for power, but two systems of belief contending for power.”
It’s not either-or. It’s a truism in this forum that power-hungry people use ideologies to acquire and keep power all the time.
Stalin was urging the brakes on the genocide of the Ukrainians. You are blaming the crimes of Stalin’s enemies on Stalin.
The liquidation of the kulaks as a class ended as soon as Stalin was secure.
Looks to me that Stalin figured the Trots were on course to kill everyone. Stalin’s killings were motivated by real or plausibly suspected possession of dangerous ideas or dangerous knowledge, hence tended to be party members. By and large, the Trot’s killings were motivated by just not liking the Goyim, so tended to be random people who were keeping their heads down and trying to avoid being noticed.
Your view of Stalin is shaped by Trotskites. Animal Farm is the basic anti-commie text most of us started with and even in Animal Farm Orwell put forward the idea that the revolution was betrayed by Stalin who drove Trotsky out. The underlying idea was that if Trotsky had stayed in charge then Socialism would have worked. This is the belief of every modern Communist and our understanding of the world is shaped by these Communists.
Trotsky was the good moral communist while Stalin fucked it all up! It’s bullshit, but it’s what they believe and it’s what you’ve partially bought into. The reality is Trotsky was quickly destroying Russia and murdering all it’s people while Stalin less insane beliefs lead to Russia being turned into a massive economic powerhouse. Russia was badly crippled by socialism under Stalin, but Stalin actually built things up instead of slowly destroying things as Commies typically do. The Soviet Union ran on the fumes from the Stalin era for a very long time.
Note that almost all the industrial capacity of the Soviet Union came from American engineers hired by Stalin to build and train the industrial base. Russian factories where some of the best in the world because American capitalists built them. Communists are forever taking credit for the things capitalists build.
That doesn’t make Stalin a good man, he was intact a very evil man who had a very evil religion that killed millions, but in a choice between Trotsky, Mao, Pol Pot, and Stalin, I’d pick Stalin every time.
You’re falling into the same trap that Moldbug fell into: Ignoring religion and how religion actually drives civilization.
I don’t think I said that, and if I said that, what I meant was something more nuanced.
Robespierre was the leader of the terrorists, who believed that terror was holy, and more terror was holier, and those opposed to terror were insufficiently holy.
Those opposed to terror saw where this was heading, and indeed offed him because he was about to off them, but they had a genuine ideological disagreement with Robespierre on this issue, and though they removed the terrorists from power, failed to do a thorough job of removing the terrorists from existence because of this quite genuine belief system..
So the terrorist belief system kept on festering out of power, and during the Paris Commune, returned to power. This greatly alarmed everyone sane. The Paris Commune was thoroughly crushed, and this time they did do a thorough job at extirpating that belief system by extirpating anyone who smelled vaguely like an adherent of that belief system.
“I don’t think I said that, and if I said that, what I meant was something more nuanced.”
You didn’t say that; I was responding to Wulfgar.
Yes, but my point was precisely that which Jim pointed out. Maybe if Robespierre had gotten to the others first, he would have led the left into devouring itself in an cycle of endless violence. That did not happen. Robespierre picked a fight over the direction of the Cult of Reason, and the anti-autogenocide faction won.
There was a dispute there over both ideology and power, not merely one or the other. Schroedinger’s Doctrine, where both interpretelations are equally correct until the consensus decides. More civilized approaches to this dispute are councils of the church leadership or debates between the positions. Once the decision has been made, the uncertainty disappears, and there is one doctrine again.
The state religion is that which for offending against, one is abused by state power. Sometimes there is a dispute over which interpretation holds sway, but when the dust settles the state religion is always the one still standing.
It comes down to the rectification of names. If you look at the Anglican Church in England, it is the official religion of the United Kingdom. If you blaspheme against Jesus Christ nothing is done. If you blaspheme against the holy negro or blessed tranny, the state comes down on you like a demonic hammer. Which is the state religion of the United Kingdom?
“Yes, but my point was precisely that which Jim pointed out… Robespierre picked a fight over the direction of the Cult of Reason, and the anti-autogenocide faction won.
There was a dispute there over both ideology and power, not merely one or the other.”
Robespierre said “We need to kill those guys.” If he had been spouting totally different doctrines while saying that, those guys still would have come after him.
Nuts
You with great confidence and without explanation state unreasonable and improbable positions. You need to explain your reasoning.
Robespierre did not say “we need to kill Bob”, and Bob then react by killing Robespierre. Given that everyone was talking in terms of classes, ideologies, and crimes against the Republic, your statement makes no sense.
Robespierre was spouting doctrines that implied the killing of certain guys. If spouting different doctrines, then different guys.
Been trying to put my finger on what this debate is about. This seems like a good jumping board.
Doctrines are not just justifications for power. Well, obviously, in large part they are. But doctrines require the participation of many people, and as such, they tend to become larger than one person.
Robespierre did not say: ‘we need to kill these guys for [arbitrary reason].’ He said: ‘we need to kill these guys because [very valid reason within his espoused doctrine.]’ That might seem arbitrary to you, but it was extremely important and valid to everyone involved at the time. Robespierre tried to push the doctrine in a certain direction, but whether or not that would work was far from certain.
The trial of Charles the First is an excellent example. Why did the Puritans not just execute Charles and get it over with? Why the long and heavy trial? Why was it not just a show trial? Because the state faith was living its own life, with different people tugging at its seams.
Cohesive action requires a leader, a faith, and the capacity to coerce people who do not go along.
A priesthood relies primarily on faith, but still needs coercion, but tends to be limited in its capability to coerce – typically that the leader can exclude non cooperators.
An army relies primarily on coercion, and kill non cooperators, but the higher the rank, the more it has to rely in faith.
A faith, however, cannot be simply constructed by the leader’s command, though the leader may well invite certain people to the process of constructing consensus, while excluding certain others, and pronounce the consensus. Consensus is less dependent on leaders. Consensus usually implies certain actions, but it then takes a leader to make those actions actually happen.
You will not find Henry the Eighth listed in any book of Church fathers of any Church, but he had a huge impact on the Christian faith, by digging up, and making it safe and high status to dig up, the dirt on monasticism. He did not just say “well those guys have too much wealth and power, should belong to the King”, and had he done so, probably would have failed.
For a considerable time, a whole lot of people had been doubting the sanctity of the monastics. Which doubt went into high gear when it got Kingly and aristocratic backing. But the King and the aristocrats issued no doctrine. After the dissolution of the monasteries, then priests eventually came up with doctrine, doctrine that had been in the air for a long time before the dissolution of the monasteries.
So the official consensus was under attack from outside for a long time before the dissolution of the monasteries, then the monasteries were dissolved, and then, in the new reality created by the absence of monasteries, a long time after the monasteries were dissolved, a new official consensus gradually emerged from inside. And it stuck. It was not just artificially held in existence by Kingly power.
Ideas are more powerful than guns.
Me: “Robespierre said ‘We need to kill those guys.’ If he had been spouting totally different doctrines while saying that, those guys still would have come after him.”
Jim: “Nuts. You with great confidence and without explanation state unreasonable and improbable positions. You need to explain your reasoning.”
I think we’ve hit the point of diminishing returns here, and I also think our disagreements at this point, insofar as we actually disagree, are mostly a matter of emphasis. But in answer to your question, all I’m saying is this: I’m pretty sure that if someone said “We need to kill Jim because [whatever reason],” then you’d go after them if you could. I am absolutely not denying that ideologies/state religions are used as an excuse for the “We need to kill [X],” and that a large fraction of the time they are probably sincere, on a conscious level. Obviously both those things are true.
Alf, I don’t disagree with anything you said, but insofar as there is disagreement, I’d have pretty much the above take on it.
But that is not what Robespierre was saying. He was saying “we need to kill people who are [X]” And a whole lot of people suspected that they were [X], and that nothing that they could ever do or say would ever make them not [X].
This is completely different from saying “We need to kill Caesar because [X]”, when the actual reason for convicting Caesar in absentia for assorted crimes was that they were worried that Caesar could legitimately take power by election if the normal processes of the Republic were followed.
This is an important difference. It is a difference that leads to radically different strategies for taking power, keeping power, and staying alive, which strategies lead to radically different outcomes.
And if you ignore that difference, what happened makes no sense at all, and people’s actions and behavior make no sense.
You have a very nonfunctional argument style. You say everyone knows X is true. People tell you that X isn’t true and you need to explain your reasoning of why X is true. You fail to explain yourself and continue the same sort of augments without substance. This cycle continues until you say, well I mostly agree with you and we should move on.
Compare that to Com’s attack on my argument about Trotsky and Stalin killings. I explained what I understood about it, and Com explained in detail the phases of the Bolshevik Revolution’s murders showing that I was incorrect. Com knew more about the subject than I did, presented a compelling case when I asked and I accepted his reasoning. If I had found his answer incorrect, I would have replied in detail or argued with his points. I learned something new today and that’s the whole point of debate among friends.
I’m aware that a lot of what I’ve been told over the years is over lies by people with specific agendas. Knowing that official history is just chocked full of lies and knowing why and by whom you being lied to can be useful in determining true history especially when presented novel information.
We’re not trying to brow beat over these subjects. Just present your argument in detail when challenged or ask for other’s argument in detail. We all learn something new that way.
You’re an excellent writer and very entertaining, but you could improve how you argue to your benefit and ours.
“If you blaspheme against Jesus Christ nothing is done. If you blaspheme against the holy negro or blessed tranny, the state comes down on you like a demonic hammer. Which is the state religion of the United Kingdom?”
No disagreement here, but consider lèse-majesté as well. People with power doesn’t like it when the plebs can call them gay retards and get away with it. Supposedly, officially, our masters are our servants, so they cannot have lèse-majesté laws.
What they can do is shove a bunch of convicted pederast gay retarded obese tranny nigger jews in between themselves and the mean plebs, so if the plebs are mean to the masters, they will say that the pleb secretly aimed for the convicted pederast gay retarded obese tranny nigger jews, and the masterservant must prevent pleb-CPGROTNJ escalation, and can come down on the pleb like a demonic hammer, while forcing all normieplebs to prostrate themselves in deference to the coagulate of vice.
Come to think of it, sounds like lèse majesté laws protecting Satan, which sounds about right.
Red:
I’ll reciprocate by saying that while I find you as annoying as hell, you do make good comments sometimes.
what I am saying is that – while the left’s doctrines may be sincerely held on a conscious level sometimes – those doctrines should not be taken seriously and are not the real reason for the left’s actions. They are rationalizations for the left’s actions. The doctrines change constantly, but the last line of the argument is always, “…therefore it’s vital that we seize total power.”
Why would I say the quote that you called out: “our disagreements at this point, insofar as we actually disagree, are mostly a matter of emphasis”?
I’m not being weasally, god damn it. My position – for those of you who care about Jimian piety (rolls eyes) – is simply “Don’t pay attention to the left’s doctrines; if you do that you’re watching the magician’s off hand.”
THIS. IS. IMPECCABLY. “JIMIAN” – acknowledge that or fuck all the way off – and it’s a sincere point of actual agreement, whether or not you believe I mean it sincerely.
Jim, I suspect this guy’s a “cause internal friction” shill.
While one should not treat the claim that the owner of an applecart is oppressing the proletariat, causing global warming, or whatever, as sincerely held, nor suppose they give a tinker’s dam about the sufferings of the proletariat or the temperature of the earth, one does need to take seriously what their story implies about what apple cart they are coordinating to knock over, and what mob they are assembling to knock it over.
These are not individual conflicts, Stalin versus Trotsky, but struggles over Schelling points for group coordination.
Trotsky was a purer communist than Stalin, because his communism was unconstrained by practical economic considerations. Since there had been repeated cycles of the ever lefter grabbing power from the insufficiently left, his purity was likely to result in him grabbing power from Stalin, which was undoubtedly the real motive behind such lunatic purity and the real reason for Stalin crushing the Trots – but such purity was likely to result in someone grabbing power from Stalin, regardless of what happened to Trotsky. The ideas, rather than Trotsky himself, were the threat.
Ideas matter. And they still matter even when they should not be taken seriously. They may not be the real motives for the left’s actions, but they are the real mechanism for left coordination to take action.
The details of Trotsky’s superior purity are irrelevant, uninteresting, hypocritical, and not sincerely held. And in this sense, it would be pointless to pay attention to the ideological argument. But the argument was real enough regardless. Stalin was impure, because concerned with practical consequences. His reasoning that Trotskyism was “objectively fascist” was that it was likely to have stupid and disastrous practical consequences that the fascists would be happy about.
I already knew everything you put into your comment, but I couldn’t express it in a manner that was remotely comprehensible. It turned into a pile of gobidly goop that I didn’t even bother posting. And then you break it down into a few easy to understand paragraphs describing a very complex system with such ease. Just amazing.
Well said Jim.
Hence, point deer make horse, and not point deer make horse or dog or helicopter or whatever I feel like calling it today.
ps my browser has trouble processing comment section since hitting 1700 comments or so. Not sure if just me or…
pps red don’t sell yourself short you were pretty close on the money.
pops neuro red has been here longer than I have, he’s pretty much baked into the furniture at this point.
I agree with most of this. The one part I have reservations about is “These are not individual conflicts, Stalin versus Trotsky…” and that comes down to just what is meant. Plainly the two men were in conflict. The question is why. Ideology mattered. I am far from convinced that it was the only thing that mattered. But then, I’m not sure that Jim et al are claiming that, so that might be a strawmanning of their position.
The previous paragraph is a good example of why I said I think that such disagreements as we have are largely matters of emphasis at this point.
(I suppose the previous sentence will cause Red to imply that I’m being insincere or whatever, but I guess that’s just something I have to learn to live with.)
Just re-read Jim’s comment that I was responding to. Yeah, pretty much that entire comment is gold.
You’re projecting, I’m about as subtle as a boulder rolling down a hill. If I’m going to attack you it’s going to be something very direct. I got into a tear down fight with Com over Covid and Starman after the election was stolen that was wall to wall insults. None of my attacks were subtle.
It’s been a frustrating but productive debate. Jim’s comment at the end is just awesome and I think marks the end of it.
Jim: “But that is not what Robespierre was saying. He was saying “we need to kill people who are [X]” And a whole lot of people suspected that they were [X], and that nothing that they could ever do or say would ever make them not [X].”
You, and I, and everyone else within a light-year of this political space are going to be, of already have been, identified as “Nazi racist fascists” and nothing we could do would ever make us not “Nazi racist fascists”.
Similar, except that they were guillotining lots of people and their ever more elastic definition of enemies was pointing at a substantial fraction of those in power.
Just did a blog post on Jim’s comment on ideologies as violence-coordinating Schelling points.
Jim, you might consider turning that comment into a post here. I know this isn’t all-request radio, but it sums up certain points, about the game theory of solving a certain coordination problem, quite tersely and clearly.
just read your blog post.
Pretty good, and I will promote that conversation into a blog post in due course, but currently in real life events press hard, there are bunch of threads that deserve promotion, and I am currently working up post based on an old conversation about Marxist theory.
Do you not understand what a holiness spiral is?
“If you’re getting your ass kicked for saying X, then X is definitely not part of the state religion”
This is incomprehensible
You declare that you hate niggers, FBI/DOJ SWAT come down hard on you and your family, destroying you and throwing you in prison.
Clearly negro worship are part of the state religion.
Hence getting your ass kicked for X, mean X is part of the state religion.
Me: “But if that’s our definition, then we have to stop saying “If you’re getting your ass kicked for saying X, then X is definitely not part of the state religion.” Robespierre makes that approach all fuzzy.”
Red: “Do you not understand what a holiness spiral is?”
I can’t tell whether you’re saying that Robespierre was, or wasn’t, a member of the state religion at the time he was killed.
Of course Robespierre was a member of the state religion. The leading and most authoritative member. And he did not actually cease to be the leading and most authoritative member until his head fell into the basket in front the guillotine.
If it had been possible for him to cease to be the leading and most authoritative member of the state religion while head was still attached to body, he might have died in bed with head still attached.
Where did the left that “infiltrated” the institutions of the 60s come from? Were they Soviet agents perhaps? Trained on Marx and Lenin in a cellar in some Eurasian backwater? No; there is only one source for them.
[whig history of the left deleted*]
You criticize Neurotoxin from the left, but are strangely unable to notice me and Aidan criticizing him from the right.
You should have responded to Aidan’s position, not to Neurotoxin’s. Responding to Neurotoxin from the left is argument by false consensus, as if the only thinkable alternatives were insane savage homicidal demon worship and raving bloodstained insane savage homicidal demon worship, as if thought outside that little box of hatred and mass murder was unimaginable.
Jim I think you mean Neurotoxin.
Yes, corrected it
Ok, here’s a new axiom for you that further supports my model [*leftism presented as rightism deleted*]
The left’s position is that they marched through the institutions. The right’s position, [*not the right’s position, not the reactionary right’s position, not the alt right position, and not the normie Republican position*]
In your telling of it, the right volunteered for what has happened. No one on the right thinks they volunteered.
The fast vs slow government model [*deleted for gross disconnect from reality*]
The right does not act or think like that. Republicans don’t act or think like that. People in the suburbs don’t act or think like that.
Some bits of your description would be accurate if you could bring yourself to acknowledge the black problem, but, without mention of that, you describe suburbanites acting irrationally for no sane reason, so you make up some absurd insane reasons almost at random.
“Responding to Neurotoxin from the left is argument by false consensus, as if the only thinkable alternatives were insane savage homicidal demon worship and raving bloodstained insane savage homicidal demon worship”
For fuck’s sake, Jim. Sure, I’m an apostle of insane savage homicidal demon worship. I’m so distraught that you saw through me! I thought I had you fooled!
Oh, what the hell. Might as well be hanged for a sheep as a lamb.
Hello, fellow reactionaries. As all of us agree, the left infiltrated the universities from without. Assuming that as part of the background assumption of our conversation, let us now, within that framework, discuss tangentially relevant issues…
(PS: Mr. Soros, the check hasn’t cleared yet. Can I expect remuneration soon?)
Not an apostle, but you are telling the flattering story that a bunch of insane savage homicidal demon worshipers tell about themselves. They like to believe that they conducted revolution from below. Which was kind of true in 1640 or so, back when they were arguably sane and not dramatically evil and malicious, and they have been recycling that story ever since.
Today they are rebelling against the mighty oppressive power of patriarchy, male supremacy, and heteronormativity by heroically liberating your children from their genitals and sodomizing them.
And you also previously told us of their heroic struggle against the FBI and CIA. The left was the CIA and FBI.
These are tales told by evil and dangerous people to praise themselves and to disarm their enemies preparatory to destroying them.
“Not an apostle, but you are telling the flattering story that a bunch of insane savage homicidal demon worshipers tell about themselves. They like to believe that they conducted revolution from below.”
Just to clear up what I think about that: They were not oppressed downtrodden victims conducting revolution from below. The left’s claim to be downtrodden, or even to speak for the downtrodden, is of course ridiculous.
(My canonical mental image of these people is an upper-middle-class white kid with a bullhorn doing some obnoxious rabble-rousing.)
“Where did the left that “infiltrated” the institutions of the 60s come from? Were they Soviet agents perhaps?”
For a long time a significant chunk of the US left was indeed backed in various ways by the USSR. Whether that particularly applies to those who went into academia I don’t know.
“Where did the left that “infiltrated” the institutions of the 60s come from? Were they Soviet agents perhaps? Trained on Marx and Lenin in a cellar in some Eurasian backwater?”
60s were the time when WASPs were displaced from institutions like universities by Jews, who were mostly children of immigrants from the territory of the USSR but not state agents of the USSR.
They were related by blood and culture to the early Bolsheviks, less so to the later USSR of Krushchev, but still very sympathetic to it. They were seen at the time as further left than the WASP professoriat, which had also been leftist.
Accusations at the time that institutions were being taken over by state agents of the USSR – though not completely false – were mostly a way to draw attention to this fact without being accused of Naziism.
Aright bitchez, I just skimmed the thread and see that it’s still live, as I expected. But, long day. I’ll be back tomorrow.
No punching right. Ever. End of story. This applies to everyone, not just Red.
Was going to write a short comment in response to Red’s initial thread, but this subject is of utmost importance and needs to be stressed.
As an oversimplified explanation for the obvious, any serious dissident political or religious movement never counter-signals its extremists because they are necessary for the ascending group to communicate that its minority view is respectably moderate.
Anglin does not have to clarify his rhetoric as proscriptions only for ill-behaved women because women are not holy idols who ought to be worshiped. If it is unthinkable for Roderick Spode to advocate putting women in gas chambers, then who are we to advocate for husbands being allowed to kill their adulterous wives?
Stating the obvious, Anglin is not referring to “good women” such as our wives, daughters, and so forth. He is referring to Giselle and that our wives, daughters etc. will become like her if we are not careful, if we do not pass shit tests. There is no man or woman who should be exempt from being shot and buried for failing to adhere to proper morals. This includes women.
When a feminist says “kill all men,” no one on the Left counter-signals her because everyone on the Left understands that she is not referring to “all men” but the idea of the patriarch as the bedrock of society. Likewise, when Anglin says “women should be put into ovens,” we should understand that he is not referring to all women but the idea of the emancipated woman. Kunning Drueger got it right.
Is he? I’ve read the article three times now, pretty sure he emphasizes hating all women and wanting to put them all in the oven.
Again, it’s rhetoric. There’s a metanarrative at play.
Then show me evidence. Everyone keeps telling me Anglin is ironic, but no one shows me any evidence for him being ironic.
Until I see convincing evidence of Anglin acknowledging that some, if not most women, under proper authority, are wonderful, I’ma just going to assume that taking Anglin’s advice on women is like taking advice from Sam Hyde’s divorced dad character.
it’s so over the top it sounds to be ironic exaggeration in the tradition of “a modest proposal” and “the shortest way with dissenters” (which jim might have agreed with unironically then… I would agree with a similar shortest way with leftist unironically now).
I have to agree. I read the article and the first thing that came to mind is that Anglin is not getting any atm and is severely blackpilled on women. Not a good place to be.
This was a classic piece, from 2019:
https://stormer-daily.rw/we-are-all-incels-now-there-is-no-such-thing-as-a-volcel/
“So then the question becomes: did you volunteer to be a part of a feminist society, where women are all fat, aggressive, nasty, dirty, lying whores who might accuse you of rape in the short term, get you done up on domestic violence in the medium term or divorce-rape you in the long term?
Unless you did volunteer for this situation – and you didn’t – then you aren’t “voluntarily celibate” because of a situation you have no control over. A situation that was forced on you. A situation you are involuntarily living in.
Thus: you are an incel.
We are all incels.”
(…)
“The bottom line is to be a good man, and take care of yourself.
Forgive your mother.
Make yourself strong, then make yourself stronger.
God will give you a fitting woman to give you children if it is His will to do so.
Until then, be an incel.”
^ note that Anglin advocates forgiving mothers, and marriage as the exception to the rule.
Yes, I like that article much more. Does not seem like the last three years have been kind to him.
It is always worth it. Better wade through a sea of whores to find one good woman than sit at home incelling. God rewards the brave. Anglin has not been brave, and it shows in his recent writing.
In this piece, his first about the Brady divorce, he offers a lot of sound advice for finding a bitch:
https://stormer-daily.rw/%f0%9f%98%94%f0%9f%98%94%f0%9f%98%94%f0%9f%98%94%f0%9f%98%94-all-women-are-whores-gisele-has-left-tom-brady-%f0%9f%98%94%f0%9f%98%94%f0%9f%98%94%f0%9f%98%94%f0%9f%98%94/
^ Yes, that’s the actual URL, LOL.
“Please stop saying that you can keep a woman by “being alpha.” This is gay and retarded. Any of these “be alpha” people are just insecure losers who think they can put on a show for women.”
“Please stop saying that you can keep a woman by “being alpha.” This is gay and retarded. Any of these “be alpha” people are just insecure losers who think they can put on a show for women.”
While that’s true to some extent he underestimates how many of these rich/famous/powerful men are utterly blue pilled with women. Being a rich celebrity might mean teenage girls throw themselves at you but it does not mean you aren’t a feminist yourself.
He also underestimates how being famous and marrying another famous person is a position of weakness in this society. Unless being famous has got you dirt on powerful people, it only makes you more of a target and ensures people and money are eager to listen to any complaints your woman might have or invent.
Not that the point is about Brady himself, but I saw somewhere right around when Brady’s retiring/not retiring thing was happening that Brady had actually been on that gay Masked Signer show, and this was all cover for that.
I wouldn’t be surprised to see all media colluding to push some nothing show, it would really be demonstrative of their absolute lack of scruples.
However… being gay enough to go on that show would also make it now likely Gisele rides nigger cock, so who knows?
That Brady married a well-used whore in the first place is good evidence that he was never alpha.
>“Please stop saying that you can keep a woman by “being alpha.”
Jim has made exactly this claim on numerous occasions. For example when claiming that he has “stuck [his] dick in crazy numerous times” without negative repercussions.
It is one of many occasions which convinced me that Jim is absolutely willing to casually lie to the readership here. I have never seen any evidence that the Jim position on this is correct or sustainable. I have seen a lot of evidence that Anglin-style warnings about such situations are reliable. Jim tells me not to believe my own eyes and to trust him, Some Guy On Internet.
I would not have found my girl if not for Jim (along with Heartiste) helping me out a long time ago. So no amount of doomer pills can convince me that its impossible / hopeless situation. Without him I would never have actually understood what was going on and probably be blackpilled for the rest of my life like Anglin is.
Jim sounds believable enough because he also says he can convincingly project the image of a man willing to do extreme violence and maybe he is one… Joe Pistone (Donnie Brasco) said that very few mafia guys ever wound up divorced unless they got a 20 year + sentence. So if being alpha is showing willingness and ability to commit extreme violence convincingly… that works.
Also as far as sticking your dick in crazy (almost all non whore girls who’ve ever shown any interest in me have been outwardly pretty batshit) the crazy ones aren’t that likely to bring the authorities down on you (the non whore women who’ve shown any interest in me in the past have generally all been impulsive types with drinking problems and mood or BPD disorders none of them ever no matter how pissed they were tried to involve the authorities). Its the seemingly less crazy future Karens who do that.
“sus”, If you cannot see with your own eyes dangerous and manly men inspiring loyalty in their women, you need to get out more. If you do not try, your chances of having kids are precisely 0%, so why not try?
“That Brady married a well-used whore in the first place is good evidence that he was never alpha.”
Agreed. That so many of these guys end up marrying women who are around the same age and also famous shows that they just don’t get it.
At least Trump picked younger nobodies when he decided to marry for sex alone and not general genetic quality.
I see no suggestion that Putin’s wife initiated his divorce. Putin got married when he was a relative unknown and his ex-wife looks like this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Lyudmila_Putina_Portrait2.jpg
The problem most men have with women comes down to self-delusion. She never respected you.
I have been in relationships with women who saw me as a serious and potentially dangerous man, and relationships with women who saw me as a decent enough guy that she would like to woo into marriage. When you’ve seen both, difference is very obvious.
Most men have only experienced the latter and convince themselves that the woman is deeply committed rather than running a sales script. “Surprisingly” it turns out later than she is not.
If the term alpha brings to mind dweeby guys awkward despite their muscles, jewy types with genetics stacked towards verbal IQ rather than being comfortable in than own bodies or inspiring other men to follow them; if the term inspires visions of try-hards; then forget it and use another word.
I’ve seen guys who let their women get under their skin. The woman is never happy. I’ve seen guys who get all stressed out and then let their woman see them that way. Extremely distressing to the woman. Female mind can handle that kind of tension every now and then but not constantly.
Sure, you’ll do really well if your woman thinks your General Butt Naked with an office job but you’ll do just fine as long as you don’t lean on her. She is not your soul mate, she is not your emotional tampon and she is absolutely not your mother.
Utterly bizarre to imagine this would not make a difference.
You can.
Oh, okay. Keep acting like a nice guy, then. Good luck!
And this, from 2020:
https://stormer-daily.rw/what-do-white-knights-even-want/
“But the point should actually be that the white knight’s two questions do not follow.
He asked:
Why do you hate white women?
and
Do you really want the white race to die out?
The easiest response is “I hate white women because they’re causing the white race to die out.”
A better answer is “I don’t even hate them, I just take issue with their behavior and think that the only solution is to vastly restrict their behavior.””
“I’ve read the article three times now, pretty sure he emphasizes hating all women and wanting to put them all in the oven.”
Even if so, so what?
I want to piggyback Neofugue’s comment because he said the most important part, and I didn’t: we don’t punch Right.
Think about the deeper meaning of that statement, don’t just nod and read on. We here at JB get to punch pretty much anyone we want, because one does not simply find a place to the right of Jim. It is rare indeed for me to come across any ostensible conservative outlet or voice and not find significant pozz in 5 minutes or less. So we don’t really need to pull punches. With Anglin, we must. This, in my mind, is non-negotiable, but it is also in no way an attack on Alf, whom I genuinely love, or Red, who floats my goat occasionally but is no less a genuine brother and credit to the Body here. They both bring up good points, as did others, and they are both right about the black pill tone of Anglin’s posts.
Alf, you said you read the article thrice. That’s good, that’s a technique eschewed far too often. But, did you read the 3 preceding Woman Hate articles that for this unofficial series? This latest id the hardest edged one, but they are all pretty rough. I know this next assertion will be weak tea for many here, and it will sound like a cop out, or simping for St. Anglin: Stormer is not for the average Jimblog Appreciater. There is plenty there to make you laugh or get your blood up, but his readership is far too wide (he claims ~3mil uniques a month) and I would guess quite young. It is his job to define edgy, and in a world of gelding children, that’s no mean feat. On balance, if a young man encounters Anglin saying “all women need to be shanked” then finds Jim saying “make women property again,” I am rather confident he will end up in a pretty good place, eventually.
That is small succor for us here, but Jim doesn’t do Monday memes, nor does he deploy staff writers, so it’s inevitable that there will be stuff over there that isn’t tasteful to us. Doesn’t matter. Anglin shouldn’t be punched. This is not reproof or condemnation for the original comment and subsequent responses, just one man’s thoughts and opinions.
KD anyone say don’t read the the DS? I’ve been reading his site more because you’ve been posting links to it. I posted the article on Brady because I thought it was very interesting. Gisele practicing witch craft and blowing up her family, and the photo’s of how unhappy the boys looks was all very interesting. The thing that struck me most was the how black pilled Anglin which is why I commented on it. Men who took that as a personal attack on “their guy” really defeated the purpose of the post.
I didn’t construe it as an attack. You made solid points, I responded, Alf and I got into it, and it was all informative and respectful. I’m not going to speak for -fugue, but based on his stated position and mine, we both have some issues with framing and phrasing, but nonetheless feel that Anglin is at least in the ballpark. I think maybe you think he’s too far out of the zone? I am terrible at sports metaphors.
We don’t really discuss fluff topics here, and every man here is quite good at something and pretty good at many things, and very informed on a lot of things. So disagreements, discussions, and debates are always going to by high speed and risky. With the exception of a couple shill posts, made by shit tier shills who thought they saw an opportunity to D&C and were called out immediately, this has been a frank, honest, and worthwhile exchange.
I’m really glad you posted. Anglin has put out 3 or 4 posts that had me really twisted, all on this topic. I kept wanting to post, because I hated what he was saying but I couldn’t see where he was wrong. Being the muhfukkin G you are, you used psychic mind rays to help a nigga out. I stand by the technical assessment, but I am overjoyed others of my tribe were having the same issues I was.
I can’t remember if you have kids or not, but I have a young family. We are staunch purebloods with a high power level *as a family.* So I am always right on the edge of terror with everything happening in our country. A lot discussed here is in the abstract, but for me it is very real, and the stuff we discuss goes directly into how I work on my relationship with my wife, how I raise my kids, and how I move through the temporal plane.
I think St. Anglin, in his own peculiar way, is trying to get fathers to really think hard about how they are raising their daughters. That may be me projecting, but so much of what we struggle with as men is caused by the mistakes and evil committed many years ago. One takeaway from his writing is definitely “Yeah, women are trash and I shouldn’t spend a millisecond dealing with it,” but another could be “wow, why are they like this, and what I am I doing to help or hinder?” As for me and my house, I will work to be GNON compliant, Jim approved, and Anglin endorsed lol.
>I can’t remember if you have kids or not, but I have a young family. We are staunch purebloods with a high power level *as a family.* So I am always right on the edge of terror with everything happening in our country. A lot discussed here is in the abstract, but for me it is very real, and the stuff we discuss goes directly into how I work on my relationship with my wife, how I raise my kids, and how I move through the temporal plane.
May God grant you many strong Sons and a host of Grandchildren.
>As for me and my house, I will work to be GNON compliant, Jim approved, and Anglin endorsed lol.
Deus Vult
Fuck yeah, brother. God hold and keep you and yours. May he put strength in your arm and fire in your heart.
@Neofugue you really think that pointing out that Anglin is black pilled on women is punching right?
Bitch please. Punching right would be calling Anglin a loser faggot who can’t get his dick wet. I’ve been where Anglin is. He’s very black pilled on women and it’s hurting him and the people he influences. It’s not good for a man to disrepair about women. Nor is it good advice to wait around for God to give you a good woman. God doesn’t work that way, you need to actively seek a good woman.
My only real regrets around here is I didn’t push hard enough when they needed to be pushed. I pushed back mildly on Jim about Barr when Barr was showing signs of deceiving us. My warnings to Pooch were too mild and he ended up in that I.VI entrapment.
Finally I don’t recall anyone having an issue calling out Voxday for being a Purple Pilled Q-Anon retard. That was punching right. We tell the truth around here.
Calling out Vox Day for being a Qtard is not punching right; Qtardism is left of Jim’s Blog. Anglin advocating for putting women into ovens is further right of Jim’s Blog. They are not the same.
When Leftists discuss their extremists, their attitude is, “while Communism is bad in practice, it is good in theory.” The correct mindset with regard to Anglin is, “while his takes are a bit much for me, at least his heart is in the right place.” One can disagree with the stated letter of those further right, but not with the spirit of what is said.
The dissident Right constantly dissolves into infighting over minor squabbles because, in a Leftist society, attacking those further right gives the infighter the illusion of being higher status than his target. Back in 2016, Vox went after Anglin because the Daily Stormer was shut down after the Charlottesville debacle. About half a year ago, infighting between Wignats and Groypers broke out because Nick Fuentes was made low status on a major public interview. There are no significant ideological differences between Vox and Anglin, between Wignats and Groypers, and between Jim and Anglin. The Right infights because it is undisciplined and unserious, eagerly grasping for the scraps of status their masters throw towards them.
The fact that Jim’s Blog is no longer the most right-wing place on the internet should be a cause for celebration because it means that our memes are working. We ought not to be fake gatekeepers but to cherish our extremists so that our ideas will gain even more traction among a greater number of potential allies.
This topic should be promoted to a post. I hadn’t thought of the situation like this:
“The fact that Jim’s Blog is no longer the most right-wing place on the internet should be a cause for celebration because it means that our memes are working.”
I am so used to waking up more isolated and reviled every day, that the thought of moving closer to the Overton Window is quite strange.
The thoughts on infighting are good, but I want to reiterate that I don’t think we crossed any lines here, and the attempts to move an honest discussion towards divide & conquer were identified and mocked.
Putting all women in an ovens is insane, not more rightwing. That’s the sort of shit you see on Incel forums that’s born out of incel rage. You don’t waste a resource like fertile women. If Anglin was advocating abducting women, chaining them up and making them your slaves, that would be more rightwing than what’s talked about here, but I doubt anyone here would have a problem with that solution since that’s the general historical solution to a tribe of men without women.
Here’s what would be more rightwing on women: Tom Brady should kill his cheating nigger fucking wife and dump the body in front of his house as warning to other whores.
Another: Tom Brady should beat his wife until she stop acting out and assumes her proper role.
Very extreme: Tom Brady should kill every mother fucker who fucked his wife and then sell her into slavery for being a whore.
Those are rightwing positions. Anglin’s position is just nuts.
Despair and the black pill is not further right, but further left.
“Deus Vult” is right of “We are doomed”.
I optimistically favor hitting women with a stick and putting them on leashes, because I think a small dose of that will suffice, not because I am weak on the need for women to be under male authority, but because I am optimistic about how successful and effective such measures are. Deus vult!
Right, Those are the real right wing positions – also the actually sane positions
My wife believes that in the event of adultery I will kill her and her lover and sink the bodies in the ocean or bury them in the swamp. Now that is right wing.
Please delete, bad formatting. I riposted it correctly below.
When you give an ally friendly criticism from the right, that is not punching right.
Punching right is “ooh, racist racist racist homophobe misogynist antisemite.”
We are not calling him out for being unduly critical of women. Today, most women deserve that criticism. We are calling him out for the sin of despair. He should believe he can exercise proper authority over a woman, and be willing to cheerfully do the grossly illegal things necessary to accomplish that.
You can and do get pussy by faking alpha, but you have to understand that female perception of alpha is vastly different from male perception of alpha.
When we as a society put women under control, things will be much easier, and nice guys waiting around for God to reward them for their virtue with a virgin will actually be rewarded – with God acting through patriarchs who want virtuous sons in law.
But to put women under control as a society, we are going to need priests and paladins recruited from those that had the balls, the courage, the competence, and the faith to do it individually.
I think this sums it up quite well. But it should also be noted that sometimes good things snowball into bad things. Nothing posted here is anything more than criticism from a friend (maybe a bit rough, but we are not the party of feefees and positivity). But imagine some D&C shill runs to Twitter and says “Jimblog is attacking Anglin” or some such. I know that’s highly unlikely, but I wonder how many instances that we would look back on as “punching right” actually started as good faith and justified criticism. This is right on the edge of concern trolling on my part, and I know that, so I’ll not push it any further, but of late, with a growing mind in my home constantly watching, incorporating, and magnifying, I have started to be way more sensitive to that snowball effect. No shit, my son called my wife “based” the other day. His assessment was correct, so his instincts are good, but still, strange moment for me.
Much like in Ukraine, the US is not exempting its acolytes of Cybele from the draft:
https://thepostmillennial.com/biden-admin-requires-trans-women-to-register-for-draft-if-they-were-born-male?utm_campaign=64510
Makes sense having them killed as cannon fodder rather than waiting for the inevitable suicides when they find out no amount of ritual mutilation or government dictates will make them real women.
I saw this yesterday and was so excited for the future salt mining. It’s like having a massive Christmas present under the tree, a giant and obvious package that can’t be ignored, no matter what you tell yourself or what you are forced to pretend about it.
Settle down; nobody’s drafting anybody. And if they were, they’d exempt the trannies, no question about it. This is just a minor error from some low-level functionary who hasn’t fully internalized the sacred truth that TRANSWOMEN ARE WOMEN PERIOD FULL STOP.
If the Twilight War expands, drafting will occur. It’s inevitable with the DNA modern armies have. For every one front line grunt, there are 10 support staff at least, and it can be significantly more. Troons will be tucked into service, but they’ll be given plum positions.
They can’t draft trannies unless they draft women; it would be a vile sacrilege to them. They’re not going to draft women.
Going down this road would land you in the Supreme Court to get a legal decision on what a Man is. Until they get the bench, I suspect the intelligent ones will avoid that pitfall, and the rest of them don’t care what the laws say anyway. So, a few will go play dress up and cumdump and the rest will dodge.
To be clear, my initial post was about the response to the Whitehouse statement, not the actual drafting of troons, though having talked it out, I surmise that will be a boatload of free range kekles a well.
The reality is that the Russians don’t believe in what you believe, that’s why they don’t volunteer to fight, that’s why there is a need to recruit criminals from the colonies, there is a need for mobilization, because people don’t want to fight voluntarily. Compare with how the men behaved in Afghanistan. They knew what they were fighting for and it showed.
If Russia wins the war tomorrow, it will remain the matriarchal socialist graveyard that it has been for the past decades, which it is now and will be the same tomorrow. Russia could solve its internal problems without a war, and for some reason it seems to me that the Ukrainians would go over to the side of the RF Armed Forces practically without a fight, as did the soldiers who received a salary from the occupation administration in the Taliban, the cities remained mostly intact, and Russia’s prestige in the world would pierce the heavens.
You are speaking the words of our enemies who want us all dead.
But there is a small grain of truth in what you say, even though you are using the words of liars to tell the lie that your masters pay you to tell.
And the truth is this: Russia is in a holy war with demon worshipers, and to win must invoke the power of Christ. One must bring a gun to a gunfight, and a faith to a holy war.
You are telling me that they are not invoking the power of Christ, and not going to invoke the power of Christ.
Perhaps, but, on the other hand:
The Great Cathedral in Russia
White men are once again building Cathedrals.
The greatest strength of globohomo is that it [*does not actually admit to being a religion engaged in holy war to impose the one true faith*]
Quite true, but I think that the way I phrased it is far less flattering to globohomo than the way you phrased it, even though I understood you to mean what I said – just you seemed to be expressing it in euphemism.
I wonder why Malaysia, the Saudis or the Philippines didn’t need a war to build beautiful temples, even though none of these countries has a nuclear shield?
Non Christian privilege.
Russians don’t volunteer to fight? Are you actually saying this?
Why is [*hostile propaganda deleted*]
Might be true. I doubt it. And you have absolutely no basis for assuming it to be true, let alone assuming that we assume it to be true.
Russians mostly believe what Putin says he believes.
This is openly 1950s Soviet patriotism, a mix of Russian patriotism and post-Stalin socialist internationalism. Between the lines, it is Orthodox Christian Nationalism.
What Russians are less convinced about is that their army will treatment them well or that their army will win. It’s a real problem. Russia’s draft system allows almost anyone of social worth to exempt himself, and gives him a good reason to want to be exempted. It needs a draft system like Israel, where the highest members of society take the draft, are seen to take the draft, are seen to want to take the draft, and are seen to benefit in their subsequent lives from having performed well during the draft.
I’ve posted before about Putin needing to get his own house in order before trying to prosecute a war with the GAE. I cited his health minister’s continued shilling of clot shots.
But I’m happy to have some good news to share. Back in June the Russian Ministry of Defense enacted mandatory clot shots for all soldiers. As recently as September 28th, the MoD confirmed that clot shots were mandatory for the newly mobilized. One of my Russian friends left Russia for Bishkek the day before. The clot shot was one of his main reasons to not want to be mobilized.
There was some push-back from Russians. An independent physicians’ organization posted open letters to Putin and Defense Minister Shoigu arguing against the clot shots. And as of early October, the Defense Ministry backpedaled and clarified that clot-shots would not be required for mobilized reservists.
It ain’t a complete victory. Health minister Murashko is still out there shilling new and improved clot shots, and the defense ministry could once again reverse course.
But it’s something. Hopefully it’s the start of a trend.
Anglin is super black pilled on women. He’s not helping his readers or himself with it:
https://stormer-daily.rw/evil-whore-gisele-destroys-her-family-for-no-reason-summons-demons-into-her-car/
I’m pretty blackpilled on at least American women but damn…
Which proves that Anglin is not among the readership of this blog.
So what do the esteemed wife-owners/womanizers of this blog think the cause may be? Did he fail a series of shit tests? Or were her shit tests of the kind that can only be passed by the likes of Gen. Butt Naked, i.e. actual application of brutal violence.
I’m sure she’s fucked General Butt Naked based on her modeling history. Tom would have needed to get out the beating stick to keep her in line.
I would bet the vast majority of women have never received a hard spanking, and certainly never have been struck by a man in the face. It sounds risky, but if you want to jump to the A#1 alpha spot with a woman, give her a fat lip after a particularly brutal shit test or an overt act of disobedience.
Violence against women have to be done with the right frame. Lots of guys finally lose it strike their women but then immediately apologize for it. Those are the guys who end up in jail for DV. Giving women what they want is a very dangerous game if you’re not filled the confidence of the righteous.
Anglin does not acknowledge the Jewish nature of the Psychoanalysis cult, while acknowledging his participation in it, and condemning all analysis of his mental state of “Psychoanalysis.”
It is not my experience that women are untameable. They are salesmen, not demons. Learn to negotiate.
LOL obvious shill of some kind is obvious, Anglin is a jew and you need to negotiate with women.
PUA redpill on women 101, you cannot negotiate sexual desire.
Anglin talks constantly about our Christian God and yet he seems to deny Genesis 2:18:23. God made woman for man, before the fall.
Anglin’s women hatred is a rhetorical device. If the culture uplifts, absolves and loves women every day, then Anglin will deride, condemn and hate women every day. The pill is red, not black. Women are what the are. The regime (specifically, for Anglin, ZOG) is the target.
Anglin regularly tells men to get married if they want to, but warns that if Tom Brady, Bill Gates, Brad Pitt, Vladimir Putin, and other leading figures can’t hold onto their wives, then buyer beware. Hence the need for regime change.
Which argument Jim has long adressed and answered. Women’s sexual preference is primitive, has not changed much since the days we were monkeys. Brad Pitt gets to be alpha on set and in the movies. Still needs to pass shit tests at home. Giving the wife permission to adopt ten African kids is a divorce inducing failed shit test.
Makes better sense. I doubt that Brady and Pitt are beta in the sense women understand either even if Bezos and Bill Gates are…
These guys are mostly picking the hottest women around who have certainly been been banged by General Buck Naked. It’s a tough act to follow. This is why virginity is so highly prized.
Knowing the score with women, the best solution is the lowest notch count, hottest chick you can pull. Better a faithful 7 than a 10 that’s always thinking of the alphas she fucked while in bed with you.
Gisele is starting to hit the wall so she wants to go back and try to get someone like GBN in her bed. Lots of women do that shit once they hit the wall. Always ends in sorrow for them.
Oddly he doesn’t connect the number of guy’s Tom’s soon to be ex wife fucked before getting married with her bad behavior.
I’m not read up on these scandals but don’t you think these famous men might have wanted to dump their aging wives? Is it known conclusively that the women initiated the divorces?
Yes
It’s pretty rare. Women generally like to force men into initiating the divorce. I’ve knew one where the wife opened fucked other guys in his bed and made no secret of it so he would fire for divorce, or maybe she wanted him to beat the shit out of her and kill her lover. Could have gone either way. Women create some brutal shit tests.
He’s a satirist. Why are you taking his writing as anything more than comedic entertainment?
Anglin is right about women. I have really struggled with this, but I can’t find the technical fault with his argument. Strip away the hateful invective, satire, and humor, and what you have is crystalized Jimian perspective on female evo-spych and tendency.
Woman are not particularly bad in current era, they’re just women with no constraint. They have always been this way. If the thots ain’t patrolled, the holes grow mold.
Woman will set two or more males against each other just to see sparks fly. They do this with no thought and no sense of guilt.
Woman have two modes: self-enrichment and protective. If they are deprived of children/garden/home, this turns into a really foul sense of entitlement and destructiveness.
The Bible speaks to men and about women.
All female politicians are Political Eves. (They will always be tricked into taking poisoned fruit)
Women use our deeply held love of our mothers to manipulate us.
He dresses the truth up in a cloak of hyperbole to reach out to zoomers and generation next, who are wrapped in so many layers of sarcasm, jade, and social programming that they need to be shoved hard off the Believe All Women/Worship All Women position. I think it is a method deployed to blast young men way out of their current orbit with the knowledge that many will fall back into a much better orbit, though a few will be lost to The Bad Place.
I don’t think Anglin has kids, so he is comfortable being a hardliner on the RPWQ, and everyone here should know that that can easily get you to a really dark place. Male/Female relation is Defect/Defect, and Anglin’s fault in this discussion is that he cannot see it being any other way. Consider Jim’s repeated position: men are “on stage” forever, women shit test forever ( I know there’s more nuance, but simplicity helps my case lol). If you are like me, imperfect and not a gigachad, that is a harrowing perspective to hold.
Says Anglin:
Yea no, guy’s an idiot spreading idiocy. Well, he presumably says a lot of good stuff. When folk here link his writing I tend to read and enjoy it. But on the topic of women he is a MGTOW idiot writing MGTOW idiot tier stuff.
KD, read what Anglin says. He does not say: ‘IF a woman is deprived of children, she turns evil.’ He says: ‘a woman is evil. Full stop.’
Anglin is free to be in his dark place. But let us not uphold his position as a virtue, please.
I am not upholding his position, but I can’t refute the technical argument. It is completely in line with Jimian analysis. Yes, his layering in of hateful, MGTOW invective is kind of dumb, IMO, but where does it violate our principles? He says the same thing, but arrives at a different conclusion. We say “Yes, all women are like that. A man must soldier on, defend and care for his property, and be fruitful and multiply.” He says “Yes, all women are like that. A man can do anything he wants, but it will not change their nature, and they have every opportunity to destroy men for no good reason at all, and they do it all the time.”
Understand, brother, I am not suddenly opposed to marriage, abduction, seduction, or family building. But the evidence of feminine destructionism is overwhelming. There are just too many examples of women burning down families for no good reason to not at least countenance his position.
For me, it is very similar to Fidelis’ (and others) position that the fight for America is already lost, and the smart move is to flee and relocate. It is technically correct, I cannot refute it, but nonetheless I stand where I stand and will not retreat.
“Understand, brother, I am not suddenly opposed to marriage, abduction, seduction, or family building. But the evidence of feminine destructionism is overwhelming. There are just too many examples of women burning down families for no good reason to not at least countenance his position.”
Women want to be in a herd with other women… and as the American female herd mind right now is very insane and evil this tends to make American women very evil. Women who are seperated from the herd for whatever reason (girls 16-22 tend to be more independent of it and more focused on men) tend to bed much less evil.
Anglin says all women deserve to be slit throat and dumped in a gutter.
Jim says women are wonderful.
How are those completely in line?
Again, that, to me, is fluff. That is not the technical argument. I respect both men, I think both are some of the smartest men, theorists, and thought leaders alive today, but I don’t believe either is perfect.
Jim says women are wonderful. Some definitely are, mine is, some of me lads have great wives. But I would never in a million years say or agree with the statement that All Women Are Wonderful. That would be preposterous.
Anglin says all women deserve slit throats and/or ganged bangs. Some definitely do. Many seem to relentlessly pursue both. But I would never in a million years say or agree with the statement that All Women Are Cumrag Pincushions. That would be preposterous.
I don’t like the way he frames things. I think there is a lot of pain inside Anglin. I know this is me being a simpleton, but I think it is perilous for a man to be in his thirties with no children, no wife, and no land. I am so stalwart on this position that I would encourage any man to just take what he can get and “live” her into a better place, even if she’s imperfect. I genuinely believe a man must have land, property, and children to be whole. So obviously, Anglin goes to far. But I also see why he does so, particularly in light of the progression of events.
I have no problem saying some women deserve slit throats. Can Anglin say some women are wonderful? Seems like he’d rather chop off his balls than say that.
And that’s his cross to bear. Let’s look at it a different way: is his over the top analysis pushing people in a better or worse direction on the Woman Question?
On the one hand, official reality is that the situation is fine, and women are fine, when it is right in every man’s face that the situation is very bad, and women, given half a chance are very bad. I see women all over the place that need to be hit with a stick and put on a leash, and in a civilized society, would be.
So, Anglin attacks that delusion.
But he is also sowing the black pill, MGTOW. Despair is a vastly worse sin than lust.
We can, and should, deal with this problem as individuals, and as a society. The black pill, despair, prevents men from doing so.
It is those who can and have fixed this problem as individuals who, when in power, will fix it as a society.
Better to assume women are trash and be proved wrong by Mrs. Hearthnhome then to assume women are angels and get destroyed by Ms. Cruz-Carousel. Every woman I’ve ever dated for any substantial period of time has admitted that they hate Women, with the exception of their friends and loved ones. Women are very aware of how destructive and cruel females are, but they also universally assume they themselves are the exception.
What can I say we dated different women.
While his sentiments are extreme by Western standards, Anglin’s views are not too far off from those held in certain Islamic nations. As a Christian, I cannot condone certain aspects of his rhetoric, but putting immoral women like Giselle in body bags is a good and proper.
Also, I made a post about the importance of not punching right which got caught by the moderation filter. Could it be cleared out?
Not quite all the time.
If you act like you don’t care, that you do not believe their social superweapons are worth a tinker’s dam, they will not use them. I am still not in jail, not financially ruined, and never charged with rape or sexual harassment. It is only innocent men that get whacked with that stuff. The totally guilty are relatively safe.
I’m the most blackpilled regular here on at least American women current year and this is too over the top. No women are not always evil all the time… Hell I’ve known one in my life who was bro tier loyal reliable helpful etc for YEARS (and no she wasn’t dykey at all this girl was hot too, and when I was moving she immediately volunteered to help me move) then after she had a kid she started hanging out with other women without being in mixed company and she became like other women… her change for the worse in character was not part of a deliberate evil plan.
Rather they are fickle and capable of turning evil based on chaotic sexual and social impulses at any time or at best if they have some sort of stability to their good nature any sort of dramatic change in their life can easily wash that away…
Women, children, and dogs need authority in their lives, and are much happier when they feel the strength above them capable of keeping them in line.
Absent that authority, they misbehave. Prolonged misbehavior results in childlessness, whereupon they are apt to turn grotesquely evil.
KD, what’s your view on women?
I like the tops and backs of their heads.
For a serious answer, need a more specific question. Unless forced by work or circumstances, I refuse to associate with females I’m not fucking, and I am sworn to one woman until death.
I’ve never understood this point of view. Learning Game for me was like going from playing an extremely difficult game to playing it in God mode.
Once you hit a certain level of Game you literally understand women better than they understand themselves.
Kind of reads like he has not fully internalized the red pill. As if he was holding the same standard for men and women. Women can do good, and enjoy doing good. But largely they must be made to. But they like to be made to. I don’t think they prefer to do evil. But, lacking the ability to resist the temptation, they are compelled to try.
It is an act of cruelty to put a woman in the position they are in today, to let them suffer that temptation and the consequences. They are not made for it. Would rather be made to do good, made to serve their husbands and children. In every way their lives are better that way, but they cannot do good unless they are made to.
Outside of patriarchy, they really are pitiful creatures, and suffer much more than they need to.
He very much reminds me of my black pill days on women. Jim made it crystal clear what was actually going on and I stopped being upset at women. It’s like being upset at a dog for acting like a dog.
Once again, I am surprised and shocked that despite the skull bashing and terrorizement of whites, we managed to actually make a good AGI capable of generating text, pictures, and even animations now. Well done to the guys who were safely quarantined from Shaniqua and the HR department for pulling it off. I have stable diffusion running on one of my computers and its really amazing what it can do.
I’ve been following this since stable diffusion dropped; the craziest thing is the speed it is going. 3d modeling with 3 pictures came out last in the last couple of weeks.
By animations do you mean the ‘text to video’ Google just displayed, people using Stable Diffusion to speed up the creation process or has something new been released?
One would think that stable diffusion could generate memes with high efficiency, but not seeing it yet.
Maybe it requires a different training set. Stable diffusion seems to have no capacity to relate to the moral valence of a text. Religious art is absolutely full of moral valence, but for centuries the art world has been engaged in self induced blindness to moral valance of visual aesthetics, so the relevant data would be utterly lacking in the texts of the training set. And modern AI requires enormous training sets.
I know some guys producing memes for our side with stable diffusion, and the results are fantastic. Can definitely goose the program to create religious art with moral valence
Great, we need meme warriors. Who are those guys and what memes have they made?
Breath Status: Bated
I would like to resubmit my idea for a GPT-JIM operation.
Unfortunately, must keep mum in the name of security. Merely indicating that I’ve seen the potential of the technology, and I may spin up my own instance.
In understand the need to keep the artist hidden, but why the work? Please show us those memes
I was referring to the first order model I found on github (granted its not completely generating a new picture and animating that but I’m still impressed): https://github.com/AliaksandrSiarohin/first-order-model
It’s a really cool piece of tech, and some low level version of it is already in consumer use (such as jpgs that are animated to sing a lyrics of a song).
The gay side of Ukraine just had a Donbas Morning. Massive surgical strikes across the whole west. Every major city hit. Power failing, water failing, air defense systems overloaded. Footage pouring out, once jubilant citizens weeping and fleeing. Infrastructure damage is widespread. As Putin was giving an address, another flight took off. The footage is impressive. While this was going on (03-04 EST) the Ukr rally points on the front lines were also being hit, but that’s not being covered by any media as of now.
Today is the first day of the SMO under its new leadership, the guy that ran the campaign in Syria. We shall see if this was a one-off or if it’s the new normal for Hoholistan. A russki TGram chap pointed out that, while the footage is shocking, the real damage won’t be felt immediately, as the strikes were aimed at staff command centers and energy infrastructure. As the temperatures drop and the Ukr offensives try for another push (estimated in the next week or so), the damage to decision making centers and grid power will cause cascading failures.
This is how this conflict should have started:
https://t.me/combatfootage/960
All positive signs. Based on the way GAE air defense missiles were randomly doing loops at hitting their own cities I’d say the Russians either jammed or hacked those systems quite effectively.
Likely hacking, as jamming is hard over enemy territory. Looks like an active hack – a hack that is glaringly obvious to the party being hacked. Active hacking reveals information to the enemy, which is likely to result in the enemy closing the security hole, so you want to get the most bang for your buck when you deploy such a capability
So while the hack continues to work, better get everything on the targets list.
On the other hand, the response to the hack may well be managed by Shaniqua, who will attempt to close it by having engineers fill out twice as many forms with twice as many checkboxes. Russia has long lagged far behind the NSA in hacking, computer security, and penetration, but since Obama, the NSA has suffered a sudden and dramatic loss of competence.
If you tell an engineer to get something done, he will do it. If you tell Shaniqua to get something done, she will create charts and forms wth lots of checkboxes, and hold a meeting to discuss checkboxes.
According to Telegram, an important cyber official was killed, so Russia might have targeted the people watching the hack and made sure that it would be harder to fix the exploit. That is some IEW thinking right there, if true. Hack the system, wait for the response to the hack, then use that to bomb the responders. Being a computer need
Hack air defense systems, then blow up the man whose job it is to prevent hacks of air defense systems. Information Epoch Warfare is arriving.
Meant to finish that with, “Being a computer nerd is about to become deadly serious, dangerous business.”
It is taking a while, but the trend line is obvious. The age of warrior techies approaches.
Back when iron and steel was made from bloom iron, rather than molten iron, iron was expensive and labor intensive, but Charles the hammer realized that he needed an elite army with expensive equipment.
And soon a warrior was weighed down with as much iron as a man could carry, and soon after that, as much iron as a horse could carry. And so came the age of knights, when wars were fought directly between highly trained and expensively equipped elites, with masses of conscripts being largely irrelevant. Like the bronze equipped heroes of the Trojan war, individual personal combat by William the Marshal had a significant and substantial impact on the outcome of wars. He obtained his wife and her castle in personal combat.
The Ukrainians have drones that should be able to act autonomously from take off to landing, and thus should be able to disregard Russian jamming. But the Ukrainians are having problems instructing them what to do when acting autonomously. Ukraine is fighting World War I, a war of poorly trained, poorly equipped, mass conscript cannon fodder. The Russians would rather fight World War II, and are finding it difficult.
But war is a stern teacher. It is not so much that the day of warrior techie has dawned, but rather we can see the first glimmerings of early light prefiguring that dawn. Dawn will be a while, but it comes.
Its disheartening that despite War. Communism has been successful for at least a century and a bit more.
The new General in charge of the SMO is purported to have served jail time for his participation in the coup of 1991. Might not mean a thing.
It’s role in Syria that’s important. He lead the operation there. I remember when Russian Special Forces ordered an artillery strike on their own position when ISIS was over running. All the Russians died but so did all the ISIS goat fuckers. You want a leader hard enough to inspire that sort of bravery in his men.
An early part of any new style war is getting rid of the generals who can’t cut it. Russia’s been doing that and it looks like they finally found their man.
Don’t forget Wagner Group. No one seems to want to discuss how they are just as “out numbered” as the other units, but they are taking ground, cracking jokes, making dank memes, and being the warriors they wish to see.
On that topic, the RF keeps giving the prisoner volunteers to replenish and swell their ranks. It blips up from time to time, but no one on Russki TGram seems to want to talk about it ( I have no idea why, response to “The Orchestra” is overwhelmingly positive) for more than a post or two. They are causing a Hohol force that outweighs them nearly 3 to 1 to cut and run.
The WW2 experience of using prisoners in combat resulted in a lot civilian atrocities. I’m not surprised they don’t want to talk about it.
You take the scum of the earth and set them loose on your enemy. It is not a gentleman’s method of fighting, but in a fight like this, and against people like Azov, you play by their rules, harder. Let the Wagner guys run amok, and at the end of the day you come out ahead. Your criminals get themselves killed or get respectable, and your enemy knows that you can and will engage in bloody reprisals. You like Nazis, you Hohol faggots? Here, have some Nazis.
You have to dig to find it, but there are plenty of stories of convicts performing notably and admirably. One life long gangster who was in jail forever became a hero squad leader that sacrificed himself to save his team and was buried with full honors in the community he terrorized. I know I am on the softer side of Jimian Christianity, and I have personal reasons for this, but I must believe there is a path back from damnation. I track hard with the muslims on this one: it matters not how far you walk towards hell, if when you die you’re crawling towards heaven, for God sees, knows, understands, and loves.
I did say, “…or get respectable.” I am sure there are some guys in Wagner who will end this conflict as decent members of society, if a bit rough around the edges. However, I am as equally sure that some of them will leave it as bad or worse than they were at the beginning. I agree with that idea of repentance in the eternal scale, but in the temporal we have to make certain concessions. You can always start a walk back from damnation, but sometimes that walk ends in this life when you kneel before God and a headman’s axe. You have to pick it up again in the next.
A lot of the men in a modern prison were always heroic warriors on the inside, they have just had nothing to fight for until now. Like a dog tearing up the couch because he does not get the right exercise.
That’s a great point. It’s also the thing I fear about war with Russia. Lots of good white warriors will end up dead for an evil cause just because they need something to fight for.
[*deleted for presupposing that everyone believes and accepts blatantly stupid government propaganda about Russian atrocities*]
I did not say a word about Russian atrocities. [*deleted*]
Indeed you did not. You just presupposed that everyone agrees.
Here’s Wagner training some recruits:
https://t.me/BrokenNews1/986
Imagine the complaints if an American NCO cadre did this lol.
Prisoner volunteers is not remarkable. The state gives a pardon and waives the jail sentence for soldering.
Problem I see is why involve Wagner? Why not use prisoners in the regular army, maybe in some penal units?
Why is the government doing Wagner’s recruitment? Is someone inside the government building his own private army?
I find this story improbable, and the source is the BBC, whose reputation these days is somewhat below that of Baghdad Bob.
If they were recruiting prisoners, it would be the state doing it, not Wagner. Sounds like a case of social justice warriors always project. Ukraine is conscripting prisoners, so the BBC accuses Russia of recruiting prisoners.
Wagner is an elite force, therefore unlikely to recruit prisoners. Wagner is not the state, it is a mercenary force, therefore unlikely to be in a position to offer pardons. And nothing that the BBC says is remotely connected to reality. It is non stop, strident, over the top, propaganda.
I am hearing the same thing from Russian Telegram. Prisoners who demonstrate good character and show courage will have their sentences lessened or waived in return for fighting for Russia. Wagner is a Russian state agent playing as a mercenary organization. The “P” in Wagner Group PMC is spelled, “N-G-O.”
In short, yes, Wagner is some oligarch’s private army. To keep this powerful privilege, he must perform as the Kremlin’s personal SOFs. Wagner was formed in response to the wildly successful Blackwater under Eric Prince (the Blackwater of today is basically incomparable and wholly controlled by State Department/NGO complex).
Government isn’t doing Wagner’s recruiting, they’re providing bulk recruits in addition to the volunteers they already get. You can read up on Wagner themselves, they put out plenty of general information. They are very upfront about how their training is better, they don’t accept scrubs or retards, and their unit composition is very well thought out.
This is not just talk. Wagner has developed a reputation of grim efficiency, wrecking shop on larger forces, using advanced tech and tactics, and fighting to the last man when cornered. There’s a story of a Wagner team being surrounded and overrun in Syria, and their Team Lead called down artillery on their own position, then fixed the enemy until everyone was destroyed.
Russia has drastic positional advantages, which previous America opponents did not have.
However, it’s displaying strategic incompetence which is surprising given its reputation for strategic theory.
It is fighting to not-lose, escalating in response to its opponent, and maintaining stricter terms of engagement than its opponent.
It is fighting much as the US fought in Vietnam, but with a much smaller margin of superiority.
Putin has outmanoeuvred Faggot World Empire for over twenty years and he’s not going to stop now. Any perceived failures should be believed to be otherwise, until proven without doubt, ie faggot parades in Moscow.
I really like this rhetorical line. The doom posting is too much, it’s just Game of Thrones transference (treating real life events like they are entertainment constructed for your viewing pleasure).
Swiss staff officer’s analysis of Ukraine’s offenses and Russia’s situation. Tactical victory for Ukraine, strategic victory for Russia.
https://www.thepostil.com/kharkov-and-mobilization/
> Tactical victory for Ukraine, strategic victory for Russia.
Now we’re talking. Both GAE/Ukraine and Russia are succeeding at the games they’re playing, but only one of them, the latter, actually cares about the final results in the physical Ukrainian territory.
Zelensky and his guys have had their bags packed for months now.
‘In August, indications suggested that the Russians had planned to leave the area well before the start of the Ukrainian offensive. They therefore withdrew in good order, together with some civilians who could have been the subject of retaliation. ”
I was taking the mass murder of civilians as evidence of Putin screwing up, but if the Russians were evacuating civilians, UKR is just randomly killing people.
“where Russian artillery would destroy an estimated number of 4,000-5,000 Ukrainians (about 2 brigades), while the Russian coalition suffered only marginal losses as there was no fighting.
…
According to Sergei Shoigu, Russian Defence Minister, the Ukrainians lost about 7,000 men in the first three weeks of September. Although these figures cannot be verified, their order of magnitude matches the estimates of some Western experts. In other words, it seems that the Ukrainians have lost about 25% of the 10 brigades that were created and equipped in recent months with Western help.”
(brigades have between 5,000-10,000 soldiers)
No wonder the Kremlin thinks everything is going according to plan. UKR’s grand army is about 1/4-1/2 the size of the initial Russian invasion force.
My personal estimation was tactical UKR, strategic RUS, but if UKR’s offensive manpower is that low, it is a farce. It looks good for the cameras, but once those men are dead, UKR is totally screwed- it doesn’t look like they can replace them.
I don’t know if this was intentional, but you’ve basically replicated in summary form what both Ritter and MacGregor have been saying for the last month. We’ll know the truth in November or December.
If the RF starts marching over the ice and just doesn’t stop OR if the GAE forces Zelensky to the table before the RF starts marching, we can infer that there’s nothing left to throw on the fire. I disagree with Jim here; I don’t thik the GAE is going to step in with their own forces. Their ballsiest, most experienced, and most capable are already there, and, assuming they survive, they are not going to be in any position or state to come back west and rally the remaining men. I think they will keep up the act, force one more offensive push, then sue for peace ASAP and cover it up with false flags and other hijinks.
Why not? NATO forces are already leading the Ukrainians. From a GAE perspective more dead white men is always a good thing.
GAE populations can handle endless not-wars with volunteers getting ouchies and sads. In a 20 year not-war spanning the globe, the Core GAE populace lost less than 10k war dead with approximately double to triple suicide/meme-ptsd dead. The wars were barely supported, and the US was 80-90% of everything, manpower, assets, funding, logistics. This was all under the Bretton Woods Framework.
An actual shooting war in Ukraine would have GWoT numbers in a month. That would be a significant gut punch to every participant. A draft would be inevitable, as every negro, spic, woman, and syke would section 8 their shit at light speed if there’s even a whisper of actual war. So, that means a draft. Please point out on a map which GAE Core or vassal would be willing to get drafted under current circumstances*. Of all the things hastening the break-up of the US social fabric, a draft would dwarf them.
*which is why we might very well see a “Russian” nuclear attack on the US or Europe.
You’re repeating leftist propaganda. People seldom care about the losses in a war as long as their actually winning. And even when they’re losing the war (Korea and Vietnam) people keep going over and dying for the empire. The left harps on the number of people who die in a war when they oppose the war. When they’re for the war all the propaganda flows towards ignoring the losses and it works.
During WW1 France and the UK fed their best people in a meat grinder because those were politically and religiously opposed to Socialism. It took a very long time for the men being killing to start resisting the governments that were trying to get them killed. After the war the men who got most of the best of France and the UK killed blamed the Generals for the civilian government’s orders.
Oh no, now Neurotoxin and KD are spouting leftist propaganda! Who’s next?!? There are shills in the walls! Hang everyone! I saw Comminator getting a lap dance from a girl in college, he’s basically Joh Oliver!
Seriously though, can you point out the leftist propaganda for me? I think you’ve fallen a bit deeply into American ignorance of consequences. I am not talking about “feelings,” I am talking about raw numbers. The last war the US fought with serious casualties was the Civil War, and the war weariness, on both sides, was substantial and dramatic.
Calm down KD, I’m not calling anyone a shill. I believed Cathedral propaganda for most of my life as well.
You’re arguing that people won’t fight for the GAE with the sort of losses they’re likely to end up experiencing. My point is they will fight when ordered to and taking loses is only effective talking point when the left opposes a war.
War weariness is a factor after a war but it takes a lot of death before it becomes a factor during the war. The GAE can easily feed every strong white male of military age into a Russian meat grinder and they’ll feel likely they’re winning no matter what.
Well, I disagree. I laid out the broad strokes as sufficiently as needed, but to reiterate:
The USM as it stands now is not loss tolerant. With extremely low casualties, short deployments, regular contact with home, unprecedented amenities, and overwhelming technological advantage, it could subdue neither Iraq nor Afghanistan. The most effective elements of the USM, the Special Operations Forces, are exactly the type of guys to bunk instead of die fighting if they realize they are being sacrificed for domestic gain *at this time* (not so in the early aughts). 70-80% of the standing military is support only, by training and identity, and if forced into trenches against Russian artillery and Wagner infantry will surrender at the first opportunity.
We are not the country we once were. Faith has been largely snuffed out, loyalty is low status, and it is chic to hate the country. In this regard, we are in unprecedented times. No power has ever had to fight a global war with ~50% of its whole population explicitly opposed to it on a fundamental level.
Look at the vaxx casualties. I have not crunched the numbers myself, but the losses incurred have made a large body of stalwart dissidents. A hot war with Russia in Eastern Europe would be grievously costly. If Americans had to tolerate anything like civil war casualties (1 in 100) it would fold very fast, shattering on a score of axes.
10 years ago, maybe even 5 years ago, I think you might be right. Now… I don’t think so, man.
You know that, I know that, Red knows that- does the person who makes the decision know? Do they care?
Destroying the world economy with inflation wasn’t smart but everyone grabbed the money because if they didn’t someone else would.
Sending the US military to its destruction in Ukraine is insanely stupid, but it just has to be the winning move in an internal power struggle.
KD, leftist are not rational actors. They have no interest in anything besides short term power.
There’s a lot of ruin in a nation, and they’ve seen how the Uki’s kept the fighting going for much longer by using the Nazis to march the cannon fodder to the front lines at gun point. I see no reason the US government wouldn’t do the same.
“Oh no, now Neurotoxin and KD are spouting leftist propaganda!”
Greetings, comrade!
Given your recent assertions without evidence that the universities were infiltrated from the the outside, I don’t trust you. I’ve personally observed how Universities become more leftwing and it’s a top down process. Your explanation is the typical outer party lie that I believed before I watched it happen in real time. Jim has the right of this.
So do us a favor and provide evidence to support your argument on the subject.
Red, I see your point, and it is very much top down now, as well it was the upper levels that allowed the midwit middle to rise to the place they did on the back f the race riots of the 60s. But I also believe the universities were converged in a manner similar to a family owned operation getting consumed by a corporate entity. While the rot goes back far, you have to square that with the pinnacle of technology and science, 1860-1930ish, overlapping with the rise of the Progressive Midwit takeover. The advancement halted once the takeover was complete, but advancement was possible even with the progressive elite ensconced at the top. I can’t explain this, but the chronology is there.
The advancement, though closely linked to the universities, occurred outside the universities. Thus Wernher von Braun went to university and got the world’s first degree in rocketry because he started building rockets before he went to university, or even thought about going to university.
The progressive midwits running the universities were not creating science and technology, they were reaching out to scientists and technologists. Rockets do not exist because a university created a degree in rocketry. The university created the course for Wernher von Braun because that was what he was already doing and had already done.
They wanted to give him a degree because of what he had accomplished outside university, and created a course and degree to suit him so that they could give him a degree.
Similarly, Newton. Same for nearly all of them. They were not creating the scientists and technologists, but converging them.
KD, take a look at the Wright brothers. A couple of Bicycle shop guys invent the airplane. What was the Government response? They ignored them because they didn’t have a college education. The US government had poured what would be today millions into airplane projects for people who were part of the cathedral(University professors) and then lied that they actually built the first airplane and the Wrights just got lucky.
https://youtu.be/EkpQAGQiv4Q
Tech wasn’t coming from the universities. The universities were a good place for smart people meet and network but the actual professors working there where not driving tech forward.
“Given your recent assertions without evidence that the universities were infiltrated from the the outside… So do us a favor and provide evidence to support your argument on the subject.”
Don’t try to reverse the burden of proof. That trick is utterly transparent. The left themselves admits their infiltration in unguarded moments. And yet you’re saying, “No, they’re innocent!” You need to provide a hell of a lot of evidence to exonerate someone who’s admitting he’s guilty.
What actually happened is that the young faculty carried out the Gramscian* program that the left had earlier said it was going to carry out, of infiltrating the institutions.
As Kunning notes, there is top-down enforcement of leftist dogma in the universities now, but I’m not talking about now; I’m talking about a process of entryism that happened decades ago.
*Apparently Gramsci wasn’t the first leftist to propagate this idea, but whatever.
Again you present no evidence of your assertions. Show evidence that bottom up inflation happened at the Universities.
Lying leftists saying X doesn’t make it true. Antifa and BLM claim that that they hate all cops and that the cops are oppressing them while the cops stand around protecting them from counter attack while they go around beating people. I personally watched a BLM march into a rural area that had police escorts in front and back because if the locals would have beat the living shit out of them without those state cops. Those sorts of lies of not being state backed is standard leftist propaganda.
You know, I don’t think you’ve read Moldbug. He went into great detail how the instructors and administration lead the student revolts of the 60s, how the primary people being purged at the universities was not the few conservatives hired there as tokens, but rather the older leftists who were being replaced as a changing of the guard by the administration. The Administration would pretend to be against whatever the students were being told to do by their instructors, while they do nothing about it. The students was cover to implement what the administration wanted.
I see the same thing happening today:
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2015/02/21/english-professor-offers-uw-whitewater-students-extra-credit-for-protesting-scott-walkers-proposed-budget/
What Moldbug described made sense to me because I observe it still going on. It’s not new behavior, rather it’s a very old pattern that leftists lie about.
“Again you present no evidence of your assertions.”
I already called out the trick of trying to reverse the burden of proof. If you keep repeating it, I am simply going to keep calling it out.
The left has provided all the evidence; they admit what they did.
YOU however, have put forth no evidence of your assertions. How about you provide some?
“Lying leftists saying X doesn’t make it true. Antifa and BLM claim that that they hate all cops and that the cops are oppressing them while the cops stand around protecting them”
Don’t be an ass. Saying “We’re victims!” is a lie that helps them. Saying “There was a leftist project to infiltrate the universities” is a confession of bad behavior.
Again, present evidence that they did bottom up infiltrate the universities. Not that not they liked the idea, but rather they did it. IE show that the state wasn’t the one facilitating them into power.
Again, they lie all the time about not being backed by state power. They brag about Entryism all the time, but the groups that resist them soon get hammed by the state and forced to allow the infiltration or they get destroyed. It’s a game the left and the state plays. The state pretends it’s not putting the ever more left into positions of power. While the leftists pretend that they were able to take over just based on their intelligence and had nothing to do with the threat of state power if they met resistance.
Red: “show that the state wasn’t the one facilitating them into power.”
Again: “I already called out the trick of trying to reverse the burden of proof. If you keep repeating it, I am simply going to keep calling it out.”
Even so, I will provide some evidence – which you will ignore and dismiss, but other readers will see you doing that – but only after two things happen.
1. Elsewhere in this thread you asked me, “How did you end up on the right?” I responded,
“A friend gave me a copy of Ayn Rand’s Anthem when I was 16.
And you?”
You still haven’t answered this. And since you think it’s so important… answer it.
Or if I missed it, point out where you answered it.
2. Provide a specific piece of evidence for your claim. Just one. This shouldn’t be hard, since every pattern has exceptions, and I’m sure there are examples of what you’re claiming.
If I don’t see both of these things, I am going to conclude that you’re not really interested in the debate, but just trying to play some sort of weird social dominance game. (“I’ll ask the questions here! You answer them!”)
I am seeing reports of a lot of air strikes and missile strikes in Kiev and across Western Ukraine targeting government and infrastructure. That bridge attack seems to have been an important line that GAE overstepped. Looks like they might be doing waves of attacks. Bomb government buildings, then emergency services and first responders show up, then the second wave shows up to clear even more people. That is rough on the Ukranians, but at this point they get what they fucking deserve. This is what you have been doing for the better part of a decade. Not so fun when the other guy does it better.
In case anyone here is dumb enough to rely on MSM sources and Twitter, traffic resumed on the bridge yesterday, albeit in a limited fashion. There is a train span and 2 vehicle spans on the 18KM bridge. One vehicle span had 3 segments severely damaged or destroyed, while the other vehicle span was damaged along with the train span. Full repairs (good as new) estimated at ~6 months, but freight train traffic has resumed, and vehicular traffic continues, though it is limited to cars and smaller trucks, no freight.
Further evidence indicates that there is doubt as to whether the attack was a VBIED as originally believed. It will be some time before anything concrete comes out. Ukraine has already started walking back their “credit taking” position, going so far as to muddy the water that the RF did it to themselves.
An important element of this is that the front is not directly supplied via the bridge, that stuff goes over land by convoy. So this was an attack on civilian infrastructure, with the whole pile of assumptions and inferences that pertain. Russian populace support seems to be galvanizing around the more hawkish position, and we shall see how this influences RF decision makers.
A final, personal note: whenever the blue checks celebrate, it is most often complete lies. Taking that sort of scummy villain seriously is always a mistake if you want the truth, but always a necessity if you want to know where they are headed. The Ukraine conflict is a dumb show for the wars around the corner, and everyone should be aware that footage came out last night (morning time in Slavtopia) of alleged Russian collaborators bodies being dumped into a mass grave. The initial post appeared on Hohol telegram with all the usual Cuckzi rhetoric, but was quickly taken down and reposted as being “footage found on a Russian phone.” Once Socialism tastes the blood of mass killings, they start to get ravenous for it. Best to start preparing mentally and otherwise for a large FF event in the near future, particularly if more operationalized genocide evidence starts leaking out.
Do you have a link to the video, or to a telegram channel that has it?
https://t.me/Slavyangrad/12951
Much appreciated, sir. That is dark, and that is what they have planned for us. When we win, we show them every scrap of mercy they would have shown us.
“The German Army (Bundeswehr) has enough ammunition for only one or two days of warfare, the German edition of news website Business Insider (BI) reported on Saturday…”
https://www.rt.com/news/564341-germany-ammo-shortage-stocks/
The recent 300,000 reserve call-ups can be used to free up other troops for the front, they don’t have to wait for these troops to be re-trained for more troops to be deployed.
Winter is coming. A Russian winter offensive has precedent.
Recently the GAE was celebrating real victories against lightly defended fronts. Now they’re celebrating terror attacks as if they were battlefield victories. If there’s a winter offensive these recent local wins will be lost in the noise. If there’s no winter offensive then I’m very wrong, and the “RF is weak” crowd are even righter than they’re now making the case for. But currently I’m not persuaded RF is weak because they haven’t been engaging in tit for tat.
I see a likely scenario where as soon as next year Europe and the US have to just hope Russia wants to stop and digest Ukraine and not escalate further by pushing further, because its not clear NATO is in a position to stop them past Ukraine. Only problem is if our side keeps poking the bear.
One problem Putin has is that the side that commits their reserves last has a huge advantage, but he does not know for sure if NATO is going to come reinforce Ukraine. He might be holding back in case that happens.
Nato will likely soon intervene directly and openly. The Ukrainian army is falling apart. Originally it fought due to Azov Brigade faith and cohesion. But the Azov brigade has taken a lot of casualties, and is losing faith and cohesion, so in the recent offensives, we see English speakers pulling Ukrainian troops together and leading them into battle. Nato is now taking a more direct role, but as yet it is a leadership and organizational role. The cannon fodder is still all Ukrainian.
At some point the Ukrainian army is likely to collapse. Current strategy is war of attrition, which ends when one side or the other collapses. If and when the Ukrainian army collapses, Nato will likely engage in full scale invasion, possibly of Ukraine, possibly on other fronts.
If Nato invasion enters territory that is part of Russia, likely Russia applies tactical nukes within Russian territory, the smallest possible nuclear escalation. But once nukes come into play, people will disagree about what constitutes escalation.
Consider too the domestic fronts in each participant. If Putin can drag it out for long enough, collapse due to economic upheaval and culture war may severely handicap NATO’s ability to do anything. You can’t fight a foreign war too well when your homeland is falling apart.
The time for revolution approaches, but you cannot conduct a revolution without internal or external backing. Possibly Pentagon, possibly Russia. That Musk is still in business indicates a significant sane faction in the Pentagon. China backing is improbable, because Xi continues to attempt necromancy on his undead state religion.
I just want to put my line in the sand here. I may hate the Cathedral, everyone involved in it, everything it stands for, and want to see it destroyed, but I will never take NATO surplus weapons(preferably chambered in 7.62×51 and/or 5.56×45), plastic explosives, .50 caliber anti-materiel weapons, or training in their use and in guerilla warfare. Never send an email to the email listed in my profile. I am definitely not interested in fostering a civil war in America and feeding the Cathedral staff feet first into a woodchipper.
Nicely phrased, but there is something missing in your list of what your are not interested in.
I had always imagined you to be the man who offers such training, rather than needing to receive it.
Trainers do more training than anyone else, at least the good ones do.
I’d like to push back against this,
…with a refinement: you cannot *successfully* conduct a revolution without internal or external backing. If you have no consideration for success…
If you want to succeed, you need patronage. This is what history shows. But if you just want to collapse things, or immiserate a population, it is possible to initiate urban unrest, or unleash death squads, or just carve out pieces of a societal carcass.
I feel this is necessary to discuss because, given the state of clown world USA, it is quite possible that there will be a whole mess of movements and struggles with no backing past the initiation stage. This may be a hair unworthy of splitting, as the Cartel may back mestizo identitarian movements, or elite factions may fund and weaponize social justice movements, then never call them back (a political booty call of sorts). How long a crowd of brush fires can last in isolation is tied directly to the placement and volume of available fuel, and many movements can and will coalesce into a large conflagration in order to keep burning.
Externally, there are the great powers (Russia, China), global institutions (WEF, NGOs, charities), and minor powers (Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, etc). Internally, there are scores of factions and entities. Once it is demonstrated that there is a viable path to instigating insurrection, separatism, or just internecine violence, I think many of these may seek to get involved.
I know there is disagreement on this, but it could be the case that China used direct involvement in US politics with the Coronahoax. Might OPEC+ be doing the same right now with the midterm season and the production cap/reduction?
As well, most often when a power wishes to incite rebellion or unrest, they must provide agents, weapons, and funds. As it stands right now, there’s plenty of capital and weapons already in place in the USA, and there may not even be a need for agents, as there is a surplus of potential agent provocateurs, leaders, ne’er-do-wells, ruffians, and others that could play the traditional role of foreign agents.
In China it’s been done… the revolutionary civil war killed maybe half the population and the rebels sort of won because the government soldiers ran out of arrows and their spears broke after too many bodies… but it’s theoretically possible for a peasant rebellion to succeed just very unlikely.
The state will continue to crush such groups right to the end. You’d be better off forming a bandit gang. State won’t see you as much of a threat and when things do fall apart, you’ve already got a functioning funding mechanism, warriors, and cohesion.
The US Government is visibly losing its ability to suppress opposition movements. The bigger problem is that opposition has been ideologically neutered from wanting to win, the policeman inside. This is changing, but not fast enough.
All it takes is one guy to turn it around. They obey the policeman, but do not want to. Look at all the good Trump did, even as soft as he is.
The pro-lifers sitting in jail after those FBI raids says differently.
Musk is still in business, but Starship orbital launch approval is being very, very slow walked. His exception remains, although it seems very begrudging and probably opposed. I suspect if his exception lasts long enough, good chance he will be the one granting exceptions to others.
Still an enormous pile of fruit that doesnt even hang low, it drops from the tree into your hands
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-022-05172-4
Old technique used in a novel way breaks a 50 year roadblock in algorithm design for matrix multiples. Perhaps not runaway AGI superintelligence, but development in ML continues one step at a time, and recursively compounds itself. Faster matmuls found by an algorith using a ridiculous amount of matmuls, the irony.
Elon Musk, after suggesting a peace plan re Ukraine, and Starlinks start to mysteriously go offline, now suggests Taiwan be made a Chinese administrative zone.
I think he might be starting to float the threat of defection.
Musk isn’t just rich. He also has an especially heavy stake in the future, both genetically and aspirationally (same thing?). So he has to start acting like a monarch now and actually care about straightening things out.
Kind of off topic but wanted to leave a nice presentation by Sasha Latypova on the injections. This woman seems like the real deal. Her conclusion from analyzing the injection contracts and manufacture irregularities is that this is intentional harm organized by the DoD (maybe that’s obvious here but it’s nice to see some evidence).
Interesting in a different way is a compilation of presentations by depopulation advocates. As Dennis L. Meadows explains, the ways we have to raise the death rate are “famine, pestilence, and war”. By sheer coincidence that is exactly what we have going on now (or coming soon).
I tried to watch the video and couldn’t get it to play. Does the video actually show a guy doing a presentation and explicitly advocating more “famine, pestilence, and war”?
I couldn’t see the transcript option, so copied down first 30 seconds.
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Population growth will kill you stone cold dead
You have to get the death rate and birth rate in balance and there are only two ways to do it. One is to push the birth rate down, the other is to push the death rate up.
Well we haven’t invented new ways of raising the death rate- famine, pestilence and war, those are the ones we have. They manifest differently depending on the technology that you are using, but that is the way. And it won’t be just one thing I don’t think…
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It isn’t advocacy, but it sure looks like a case of touching on the quiet part.
S, thank you for writing that down.
Yes, sounds like he could be talking in code.
First two are Paul R. Ehrlich interviews, last is Dennis L. Meadows lecture. The loud part was calling for sterility drugs to be added to reservoirs and exported food.
https://tapnewswire.com/2017/09/new-york-times-spike-the-food-supply-with-sterilization-chemicals-to-cause-global-infertility-and-depopulation/
How are these people not in prison?
(It’s rhetorical.)
Are you using uMatrix or some other add/tracker blocker? You have to allow access to rmbl.ws for rumble videos to load.
I think the more interesting video is by Sasha Latypova. The other is a compilation of talks by club of Rome-type people. Bill Gates has made similar presentations. The public laughs along, but either they don’t realize that “raising the death rate” means genocide, or they laugh because they think they won’t be the ones dying but the ones doing the killing (a case of being conned because thinking they would be conning others, as has been discussed here re the nature of cons). Trump talked to Davos2020 about neomalthusians being wrong, but then pushed the iotrogenocide which, along with Putin injecting his troops, is the part I find hard to reconcile.
Sorry, I meant to say iatrogenocide.
https://stormer-daily.rw/its-happening-kanye-attacks-puff-daddy-as-a-jewish-shill/
Extra, extra, Kanye West takes command of Christian white nationalist forces! Jew loving conservatives unsure of what to do! Clown world continues unabated!
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White men are so broken women and negros are taking over. What a time to be alive.
And just like Kanye West has been unperson-ed on the internet.
Don’t possibly see how Russia can win this war on analog comms while the Ukes are on StarLink. Unless Elon Musk decides to turn off StarLink to the Ukrainian Army, I wouldn’t get my hopes up if I were a Russia supporter.
https://twitter.com/ArtfulTakedown/status/1578422660614467590
Sounds like cascading Kessler syndrome could knock out everything without much difficulty, so not a problem if escalation. All a Russian needs is a leader with the will to escalate when required
@c4ssidy
“Cascading Kessler syndrome knocking out everything in low earth orbit,” got debunked when the whipple-shielded Cassini spacecraft passed through Saturn’s rings with no problems.
Outer space is one of the few areas left where the US has undisputed military superiority over China and Russia, thanks to Elon Musk’s SpaceX.
At the altitude Starlink satellites are at debris gets cleared within ~10years or so, and the Starlink satellites are only supposed to last a few years anyway before replacement, so you would need an awful lot of debris generation to significantly reduce their average lifespan.
Currently, there’s some kind of “cascade” going on at 900km, where debris lasts for centuries and debris is predicted to increase by a little bit over a centuries-long timescale. It’s harder to get a cascade going in low earth orbit where it gets cleared faster.
Are spy satellites LEO? The issue is at the geostationary layer, right? Isn’t that HEO?
Spy satellites are low earth orbit, often very low earth orbit, where the dangerous junk gets cleared quite quickly.
Geostationary layer, junk is never going to clear for millenia.
Quite quickly is even better. That means that you can cause a Kessler Cascade at LEO, and within a few years it will all be clear.
Cursory search shows that *certain three letter voyeurs* like negros running offices like to park their sigint platforms up at geosynchronous, though a lot of the optical ones are LEO. Forgive my ignorance if I’m incorrect, but it seems that the domestic pointed platforms are HEO and the strategic platforms are LEO…
Says it all
https://nitter.net/pic/orig/media%2FFehtXoPWYAAsts5.png
Says nothing. It’s so tiresome, having preached archive links for years, and everyone is just too fucking lazy.
Use IPFS hased content addresses if you want real futureproofing. Its a more fragmented approach to data management and archival, built upon the same technique bittorrent uses. No good fee servers that I know of though, you’d have to pin content yourself and possibly even open a gateway.
Looks like the Crimean Bridge has been successfully attacked.
https://twitter.com/RALee85/status/1578605975979708416
Either Russia nuts up and starts fighting this war in earnest or my nation gets genocided for the 3rd or 4th time in the last century. Not looking good, but I’m holding out hope.
War is not a game where you play nice. You need to be just as ruthless or more ruthless than your foes. Russian leadership hasn’t learn this lesson, yet.
“Russian leadership hasn’t learn this lesson, yet.”
Surely they must have, after the hell of a twentieth century that Russia went through. I simply can’t process that a country could go through what Russia went through from WWI through the end of the Cold War and not learn something.
That’s kind of white pilling, now that I think of it. It makes me raise my estimated probability that Russia’s leadership actually has a strategy in mind, and isn’t just winging it.
From my sideline keyboard warrior perspective looks like Russia has a solid, almost boringly predictable strategy: play your strong cards, but play them cautiously. First dip a toe in the water, then the foot, then the leg, and only plunge in when all other options are worn out.
Typing that out makes me realize nukes are more likely than not…
It looks like they do not war with NATO until they have a much better position. Besides the bad practice of leaving your people to be butchered by Ukraine, this is all good. They attrit more and more Ukrainians every day, consume Western military hardware that cannot be replaced, squeeze the Euro economy to death, and let the American economy decay. It also gives Russia time to adapt to their disconnection from the Western economies.
In February, the US military had a significantly larger munitions stockpile. In February, America had the only blooded military. In February, America had more prestige on the world stage. Today, that is all shifting. Look at the logistical advantage enjoyed by both sides, and how that has shifted over the course of the war. The rest of the world is seeing Russia as the strong horse here, or why would OPEC cut production right before the US midterms?
They sense blood in the water.
We should be on the look out for a significant ramping of propaganda, that will be a signal that the Cathedral is losing its hold.
GAE/NATO is getting desperate and ready to make their move. What month is it now? October? Is that not pretty close to winter in Russia? What could go wrong attacking Russia in winter?
I don’t know much about modern Russia, but the few Russian guys I read on twitter seem to think the government was trying to virtue signal by proving how much better they are at human rights than the GAE. That makes it very likely Russia will lose if their leadership generally believes in the woke faith from 1990.
On the positive note the new guy in charge of the war is the same general who won in Syria and is distinctly against these sort of collapsing retreats due to the effect on troop morale. Attrition is a good idea, but it’s best to make it a slow grinding process and not a run away process where the troops feel like they’re always losing. Russia is going to take more casualties to make it happen, but it should work better than the current strategy.
Couldn’t this just be GAE propaganda? Do we have to take this at face value? What are Russia Today and Pravda saying about this? What is Chinese media saying about this?
For what it is worth, the Indian media is bifurcated. There is the corporate media that is aligned with the US and thinks Russia is getting a bloody nose. Then there is the independent media which thinks Russia is doing just A-okay. Here are some examples
1. Russia has destroyed UKR economy for all time to come: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnKau4EBhA0
2. Putin is a foreign politcy mastermind: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7I5fUQRFJ_g
3. GAE is running out of weapons: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yc8RnnE6F-A
4. Ukraine Shrinks: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7AylNGW5AB0
So much for the English language Indian media.
Then there is a vernacular media in Indian languages which also seem to think that Putin is doing alright. But did not post as no one would understand the content. But in general, they suggest that Russia is using this conflict to train all it’s troops and get them all combat experience.
“The Russian cries out in pain as he strikes you”
“Not a jew” but definitely a fed shill or polack of some kind.
False flags come before the war, not in the middle of it. Especially ones that the Ukrainian government is celebrating with postage stamps.
So was this posted before the missiles or…?