The good news is that in the not very distant future, everyone who matters is going to be using Bitcoin. The bad news is that if they will be using something resembling currently available software, they will still be net peons, not netizens.
Probably no dramatic price changes next week. Or next month. Maybe not next year. But we are on a big move up that will likely continue going up and up for a very long time.
The dollar is failing as a medium of international exchange.
Cannot do transactions internationally in fiat when the bankers are untrustworthy and untrusted. Cannot do international transactions in gold, because difficult and dangerous to move long distances.
Russia and others have been messing around trying to come up with fiat alternatives to the dollar. They just are not flying. The sovereign of country A agrees with the sovereign of country B for a deal that allows fiat transactions between A and B, and tells the bankers and bureaucrats to work out the details. But a deal that was actually workable would involve bureuacrats giving up power. So they work out a deal in which the bureaucrats of both A and B have complete power. Which means that in practice the merchant lacks the power to actually perform the transaction. You get a bunch of mysterious pieces of paper that are impossible fill out in a valid manner, your money disappears until you have met requirements that no one will explain to you because no one understands them, least of all the bureaucrats that created them, and your money gets frozen and eventually confiscated. So, increasingly, international transactions are getting done in bitcoin. Eventually bitcoin is going to replace to dollar as the medium of international exchange. Because sometimes, increasingly often, there is no useful alternative.
The US dollar is locked in place by Metcalf’s law. For it to fall, an alternative network must achieve critical mass. Bitcoin does not yet have critical mass but it is getting there. People are being forced into bitcoin because the international fiat money system is broken and getting more broken. Dollar dysfunction is likely to force a critical mass into existence. The more people using bitcoin for international transactions, the more useful it becomes for international transactions, which is likely to result eventually in a quite sudden transition.
This foreshadows a huge upmove in bitcoin. Also a huge attack to get state control through the dangerously concentrated miners.
Hodlers are generally betting on Wiemar style collapse of the US$ for everyday transactions, which is probably still some distance away. But a slow motion collapse of the dollar as medium for international exchange is happening right now.
For international transactions, the bitcoin blockchain suffices. The merchant sends you a public key he wants given value, usually over a highly insecure channel likely to leak information to all sorts of people who might want to rob you or just maliciously harm you. You transfer the requested amount of bitcoin to that key. Which should suffice because the transfer shows up on the bitcoin blockchain, which is a reliable broadcast channel, but the merchant frequently wants you to also send him a screen shot of the information that you just published on the bitcoin blockchain, after the transaction has gone through and received a reasonable number of confirmations, on the same insecure channel, because he wants the bitcoin transaction linked to rest of his highly insecure transaction metadata.
For everyday transactions, we need the lightning network. The cryptographically secure Nostr social network has recently been linked to the cryptographically secure lightning network, but the linkage is horribly insecure.
Nostr uses ssh style public private keypairs. Which is not good enough if there is money on the social network, plus people are used to wallet style public private keypairs derived from a master passphrase. People are used to doing it right, and SSH has forever been doing it wrong. And now Nostr is walking the footsteps of SSH. However, the one nostr client that integrates lightning wallet uses wallet style keys, and presumably eventually they all will.
Now if Nostr could be upgraded to use wallet style keypairs, and the linkage between lightning and nostr fixed up, and if lightning’s backup problem was fixed up, we would have a useful system for transactions. Unfortunately the people implementing the linkage were rightly aiming at user friendliness, mass usage, and getting it up in a hurry, and security got trodden under in the rush.
The linkage has now achieved critical mass, which is great, and may well soon show up on Twitter, which would be super duper great, but cleaning up the security mess is likely to be hard and will get harder the more the insecure system is adopted. Still, no one has incentive to do it right, until large numbers of people doing it wrong creates problems. And whatever is wrong with this system, it is a big improvement on what we have now. At present, you can only use nostr with certain peon wallets, though the underlying zap protocol is perfectly capable of supporting the real thing. Unfortunately the real thing is difficult, dangerous, and expensive to set up, which is why Nostr developers have not bothered with it yet.
If you use the standard easy to use lightning wallets, you are a peon. Someone else controls your money, knows what you are doing with it, is selling that information to all and sundry, and you are using your money by his permission. And some of the people buying that information do not like you very much. The real lightning wallets are Lnd and C-lightning. Which you really have to be a unix guru to use. And even if you are unix guru, you are likely to foul up and lose your money.
To use the money safely, you have to have a C-lightning wallet running on a dedicated always on machine, the wallet state has to be continuously backed up moment to moment to a nas running on another machine, (and the wallet is in the clear, and a nas is by its nature not very secure), and the ip address that the lightning network sees your machine at cannot be your home address, because then all manner of bad people know there is money at your home address, which can be physically taken by taking the machine running your lightning node. You are at risk of state authorities deciding that you must be doing something bad, taking your computer with your lightning bitcoin in it, and to get it back you have to prove you were not doing something bad, which is impossible to prove. Or random criminals may just take your computer.
So you want the transactions to go through the vpn, but you don’t want the backup to the Nas to go through the vpn. You don’t want the vpn blocking local network access.
Umbrel and Citadel use Lnd for the lightning network, and are designed for small cheap machines. Unfortunately Lnd is broken, because they never fixed the backup problem. It is only safe to run Lnd on a big expensive highly reliable machine, typically a nas, and not all that safe even on a big expensive highly reliable machine. It is impossible to backup wallet.db, because it is continually being written to, and if your machine dies, you probably have a broken copy of wallet.db. It can only be safely backed up when Lnd has done a clean shut down. And as soon as you start up lnd again, your backup is not only useless, but dangerous.
And wallet.db is where your money actually is.
channel.db is not a backup copy of your money. It is an overly clever and too complicated by half mechanism for recovering money lost in a computer crash, which might or might not work. Will likely recover some of your money. And after you have recovered some of your money, all your lightning channels, accrued reputation and connections are gone.
And if you are running it on a raspberry pi or something similar, you are likely running off an external drive attached to a usb port. And the port connection is going to start randomly failing from time to time sooner or later, probably within a few months. And boom, you have lost all your channels, and probably some of your money. Not to mention rasberries just keep dying.
C-lightning however uses the more reliable and crash resistant sqlite3 database format, and more importantly, allows dual sqlite3 databases. So you have your primary database on your local machine, and a backup with the same name in a different directory on a network drive in the basement on the other side of the house. The backup contains stealable money, and is in the clear, so probably not a good idea to put on the cloud, assuming sqlite will work reliably with a cloud drive, which I doubt.
A “successful” recovery on Lnd is painful, complicated, and no matter how clever and technically savvy you are, you will lose a great deal. A successful recovery of c-lightning will simply resume where it left off.
Lnd is experimenting with a database that is designed to run over the network, as part of their failure recovery strategy. But, last I looked, not yet ready for prime time. And the way Lnd is implemented makes it difficult to implement a reliable backup and restore facility.
What is really needed is a custom database that physically writes a new block on local and remote disks for every lightning transaction, and then from time time creates a packed copy of that data, and then, when the packed data verifies as correct frees up the blocks. Sounds like a big project. And you would want a social network with parity files so that each person kept a parity file (or parity data structure in sqlite) that would enable any one party to recover everything from his seed phrase the way you can with a normal bitcoin wallet. People expect to have a system where they can just download the software from the internet onto a new machine, type in their passphrase, and they get everything back. We know in principle how to accomplish this, but actually accomplishing it is hard.
At present what you need is a wireguard vpn server in the cloud, a dedicated computer on your local hard wired network running wallets, and another dedicated computer hard wired on your network acting as a nas. TerraMaster F4-210 is remarkably cheap nas that can store a lot of data, though you can go somewhat cheaper if you are only going to use the nas to backup your lightning wallet, and therefore do not care about big storage. You can also get a perfectly good fanless mini pc capable of running wallets for a whole lot less than a preconfigured umbrel or citadel strawberry.
To enable people without a pile of hardware on their local lan and good nix administration skills to operate a lightning wallet that is truly their own, and a monetized Nostr identity that is truly their own, without requiring them to do a whole lot work, and risk losing money if they mess up that work, requires a whole lot of software not yet written. We don’t have reasonably easy to use software that makes a man a netizen rather than a peon of big tech.
Demand is coming, while our software is still broken. And no end of people are happy to fill the gap with scam software and peon software. Bitcoin is about to hit the big time, and for international transactions it is good enough, but for lightning transactions, not yet ready, Nostr may well hit the big time, and our software is not ready. If you are on Nostr with a peon lightning wallet, still a peon.
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Apparently I’m a moralfag McChristian for being perturbed by this:
https://youtu.be/yB-t_OA82Y8?t=35
2020 is effectively nigger faggot porn. What would someone from 1990 think about 2020?
Here’s the 1967 Super Bowl:
https://youtu.be/h8TxizeSzAU?t=140
What would someone from 1967 think about 1990? To them, it would have likely been seen as scandalous as well. We can keep turning the clock backwards to see this degradation of Western morals started as far back as 1550 in England. Prior to that, Western society managed to maintain 1000 years of Christian moral standards. They were also, arguably, much more capitalistic as well compared to what ever mutated form of communism we have today. That’s not to say prostitution and other vices didn’t exist, or that heresies didn’t exist, but they were far from the public square, hidden away in obscure brothels, and actively suppressed by the authorities such that it was low status and coverture was high status.
So when I see stuff like:
I see an abdication of power due to a libertarian aligned philosophical mindset which itself originated from Whiggism. Anytime you abdicate power you give it to someone else… which in the case of the West are Progressive Whigs. i.e. listening to the enemy tell you to freely hand over power. The Taliban very much has laws enforcing moral standards, they are the government of Afghanistan and are involved with ruling. So no, it’s not a Whig idea, but a natural idea of power to lock down power. This is inherent to any government or any hierarchy.
Some are saying coverture is the solution. On it’s own, this is cargo cultism. If you could magically install coverture today it would fall apart in less than a generation. Without actively suppressing the alternatives into low status it simply cannot work. This necessitates might as proscribed by law which is always some form of government. Ending the whore problem in colonial Australia did not magically spring out of the dirt, it was enforced by a patriarchal government with full legal right backed by might. There needs to be understanding on why coverture died and why active suppression of alternatives failed. As Jim points out, coverture was murdered by the Romance movement. I argue not directly murdered, but as a consequence of the effective dismantlement of active suppression.
A brief overlook of publishing houses in the 1700s to 1900s reveals the Romance movement was largely subversive erotic literature produced by and consumed by male elites from within the British aristocracy. They provided a level of political protection to publishing houses. Monarchies found themselves ill prepared to handle the printing press and had difficulty developing legal pretext for removal of established but subversive aristocrats. Monarchies lost the arms race, and a minority of subversive elites were then able to use new communication technology to outflank the established communication technologies of throne and alter feudalism.
In order to restore coverture you need to solve the printing press problem, which has morphed into the worse TV and radio problem, that has in turn gotten significantly worse as its turned into the internet problem. Hostile AI will only drive the problem even further. It can reduced to calling it the communication problem: Any mode of communication used by power outside the control of hierarchy ends up being used against the established hierarchy.
The Saudis did not sufficiently close off their internet or the education system of their elites. Progressivism is slowly seeping in and they are likely not far from an end of Islamic version of coverture. It’s their lack of what Western leftists would call authoritarianism that is slowly dismantling Saudi Monarchy. Continental Monarchy was well on it’s way to solving the printing press problem and likely to solve the TV/radio problem, but they got murdered in 1918.
My disagreement with allowing porn (really just enemy controlled communication) to freely proliferate is effectively a proxy for my disagreement with allowing any form of communication from proliferating after coup completion. All the doors of open society must be slammed shut and then welded shut with Chinese style Covid era brutality. Again, not a ban for I don’t advocate going door to door in draconian searches and burning people, just as the Chinese aren’t burning the Uyghurs, but transmission would be actively suppressed… although I’m getting increasingly partial to the Taliban’s proscription of throwing people off roof tops.
Bored now.
There are no end of perturbing things and our society. Root cause or a major contributor to most of them is the abolition of coverture.
I am not interested in talking about porn or thinking about porn. Lets stop talking about porn and talk about coverture, the family courts, and child protective services.
You are crapping up the comments section with a discussion that is no more interesting than an election between Pence and Biden. (Neither of which could possibly get preselection in any honest primary, but we are long past having honest primaries.)
If I get to be grand inquisitor, Romance literature and the depiction of sexual deviance will be mighty high on my list. What the inquisition does about porn is going to be so low on my list that the issue likely gets kicked downstairs to a minor minion.
Let’s talk about coverture. You say Romance literature is the root cause, I observes that Romance literature’s proliferation occurred at the same time monarchy lost ability to actively suppress subversion in the communication channels used by their elites. As soon as that happened, monarchical regime security took a nose dive because everyone could now openly scheme against the monarch. A condition that has plagued the West ever since the printing press and has only accelerated since. This condition is highly tilted to sustained oligarchy since once the king is gone, schemes are dispersed having no central target.
Taking back control would require seizing the means of communication, ideally without brutality. That is a reasonable proposition considering how the traditional Amish and Mennonite communities can function with high levels of communication control, more if only they’d stop sending their kids out of their communities every so often. Although, we don’t have the cohesive homogeneity of the Amish, having divisions similar to Elizabethan England’s Protestant vs. Catholic conflict plus a dozen others, we’d need a massive security apparatus. An American monarchy would be extremely unstable for the first 20 years. Most efforts would be consumed by trying to hold onto power and stabilize regime security. Political program is the top priority before any, in order of increasing importance, social-culture-religious program. We talk a lot about solving the political problem here, so lets optimistically considered this solved with a pending execution.
We can’t just wave a ‘magic’ legal document to bring coverture back. That’s what anti-abortion proponents are doing in the US and it’s failing hard, hence they’re a cargo cult, they haven’t even begun to think about how to make it work or sustainable. It’s similar to what I’m seeing here with a few lackadaisical proclamations that coverture is the fix, without a pathway to get there it’s cargo cultism. The many underlying social/culture/religious technologies that made coverture possible in the first place that we simply don’t have today.
Coverture is a social program to solve problems between men and women, like shotgun marriage, but social programs rests upon cultural traditions and norms (that America has spent the last several centuries destroying) which comes from religious authority, which comes from power. It took the Russians ~10 years to stabilize the new regime and ~30 years to partially install Orthodox Christianity as the new state religion. They’re still not done. Orthodoxy has a clear hierarchical structure that is conducive for the demands of state religions. All successful state religions do. American Christianity simply does not have that. We’d have to create a Christian Nationalist Patriarchy. That’s probably a 10 year project on it’s own. The religious priority is therefore an American version of the Papacy. Only then can you start talking about rolling out new traditions and norms after which you can make legal documents that are really ‘magic.’
We haven’t even begun to think about creating a Christian Nationalist Patriarchy and installing them as the state religion with a permanent council in DC along with a High Priest. I don’t even know where to begin with that one. Optimistically, ~50 years out. Until then, coverture, as nation wide policy, is pie in the sky cargo cult worship of an advanced bygone people. Tell you what Jim, maybe you should aim to be High Priest.
They’re failing because they don’t have state and the state religion’s backing. Their enforcers are not being told to enforce it and the state religions turns any attempts to enforce into a great moral panic giving the elites cover not to exercise power.
Contrast with the protection the state and the state religion is providing for the faggot pride flag. Hit your break too hard on one when it panted in a public street and you’ll spend more time in jail than a murder would.
Yes we can.
Observe that female emancipation has been culturally turned on and off as abruptly as if someone flicked a light switch.
Turn emancipation off culturally as it has been turned off before, and then we can make a legal document to make reality legal. It is just like passing a fitness test. In fact it is passing a fitness test. The drama will last no longer than any other time you pass a fitness test.
There was a bit of high drama in Australia when they started shotgun marrying the whores, just as there is any time you pass a fitness test, but it went away almost instantly.
I know, I pointed both out, but the issue of religion is a bit more difficult, as I said:
>Yes we can.
The light switch rotted out and the remains are in enemy control. You can’t just flip the switch because first you’ll need to build a new successor state religion, then oust the current one when you take control, and finally build a new switch, a cadre of priests to run around the country proselytizing and telling people it’s all okay. It took 380 years to turn the hostile pagan Rome Christian. While they started from zero and we are not, it’s an example that building a state religion inside a hostile empire takes time. Not hopeless, but lots of work to be done.
The switch could be instantly flipped in Australia because the social infrastructure of the governing body was already there. The switch in 1930s America could be flipped over a decade because the elite cohesively had a change of heart. Wining the war took precedent. The elites today are likely not capable of cohesively having a change of heart on feminism and will need to be comprehensively replaced. You’re looking at a complete reboot of government. I optimistically say 10 years to reorganize Christian Nationalism into a coherent Patriarchy, but getting all the other groups on board (or dealing with them), and creating a new priesthood to run around the country, will take much longer.
I point out it took the Russians ~30 years to implement the new state religion and it’s still in it’s infancy. That was under ideal conditions where the previous hostile state religion committed suicide. Will Harvard commit suicide to make room for Christianity? Or will Harvard have to be physically removed? We are in a worse position than 1990s Russia and that’s going to be reflected in how long it takes to rebuild.
I’m not concerned about gnashing of teeth by women when coup complete. I’m concerned about how long it’s going to take for coup to be organized. From my location, kinda getting overrun by trashy Hispanics, Whites who’ve gone full Taco LARP, and growing number of full head to toe Hijab Muslims from Somalia. This is going to become very volatile.
adoption or re-adoption of a state religion requires a massive blood sacrifice. I understand why you think it can’t just happen overnight, that’s my inclination as well. but I think you need to acknowledge, just as I must do daily, that my perceptions and intuitions are completely skewed because I have existed fully in the Whig Bubble, The so-called long piece that has tainted the perceptions and perspectives of pretty much everyone, with the exception of a few Gen. Bucknekkids. Russia has taken so long because they didn’t have a war, and I don’t mean to disregard the second Chechen War, but it was on the shoulders of that conflict that the true restoration of the Russian state began. The longer they went without a war, the slower, the progress and the increase in backsliding. but now that they are at war again, we can see that the re-adoption of orthodoxy is increasing a pace. this is the unfortunate reality of human society: until something truly new and groundbreaking appears (like maybe solar system colonization?), The only mechanism for paradigm shift in the physio spiritual space is war. so of course, if the brezhnevian malaise continues in CONUS, The tendency will be incremental change in the left word direction, Cthulhu swimming ever leftward as we all understand and expect. without a war, there will be no quick change to the state religion. but all the analysis here, as well as every other place with thinking men of substance and goodwill, points to a period of conflict in the near to Middle distance. when the blood starts flowing, religiosity will return to a degree that will make it seem like it never left, because in all honesty it didn’t leave, it has just been suborned to the Whig religion of Progressivism.
Did not rot out. In 1963 emancipation was culturally switched on as suddenly and arbitrarily as it had been switched off. In 1973, the idea that a husband exercising his conjugal rights was “rape” was still so strange and alien that people just did not get it. It was incomprehensible, and our overlords had to keep on explaining to the masses.
Switching emancipation on took far more effort and time than switching it off, because emasculating men takes a whole lot more time and effort than passing a woman’s fitness test.
I assume elites turn the light switch on and off by granting favor to those that can deliver them what they want. I imagine most things are somewhat indirect, in the sense that the elites are not necessarily sitting down and mapping out how to solve the war problem, or this problem or that problem, so much as they are backing those that can offer to solve the problems for them. I don’t know that they need to know or want to know exactly how the sausage is made.
Hitler wins the election, first wave feminism is suddenly no more in the USA. Sure looks like elites sitting down around a coffee table and deciding where they are going.
I have a hard time seeing female emancipation being culturally switched on and off. American women were still voting in between 1933-1973. The few legacy coverture laws were still being scrubbed off the books between 1920 and 1960, and even during the war there was “moderate” feminist propaganda being produced by the government. It’s closer to a partial, environment induced, moment of sobriety rather than actual abstinence that, on the historical scale, immediately relapsed into full blown addiction. Stealing one of Yarvin’s jokes and refashioning it, the New England cohort decided the solution to radical feminist sexual terrorism was by supporting moderate feminist sexual terrorism, but what’s moderate and radical keeps shifting to more feminism.
I think personality is largely genetic even if it can be radically shaped by environment and experience. I think the forefathers of the New England cohort were a bit sexually deviant in 1500 as are their descendants today. Their policy of female emancipation is mostly a reflection of inherent personality traits allowed to run wild without a king to smack them back into place. Like how Russians and Asians have proclivity towards hard liquor, New England has a proclivity towards sexual anarchy.
Any restoration is likely going to be sourced from dissident elites… who, in America, are largely going to be New England descendants. Restoring sexual order is going to require working against their nature and that’s going to be hard. Or you can try to build a new elite which is going to take a lot of effort as well.
I can concede to the idea that a metaphorical switch could be flipped if we could outright loot a horde of traditional, swamp German, Mennonites, who more or less still practice coverture today, and strategically deploy around the country to do priesting, but I don’t think they’d appreciate being uprooted from their insular communities. I also don’t think it would be good for their people as well.
But back to the New Englanders, sexual deviancy can still be selected for in breeding patterns, above replacement rate, for a long time before something snaps and fertility falls off a cliff. We see that has happened with the elites. As a marker of fitness, not a good sign. I think it’s likely they’re going to be demographically replaced by some sort of German Scott religious hybred group, and if restoration is dependent on full elite replacement, that’s going to take a long time.
On the contrary, the cultural de-emancipation of women soaked deeper and deeper into the culture, rendering the laws on the books increasingly irrelevant and incongruous, all the way to 1963, when the switch was suddenly flicked in the other direction
But in England, although they were able to turn off the switch preceding the first world war, they had a very hard time doing so preceding the second world war. All signs of their appeasement policy pointed toward ‘on the path of degeneracy, no time for war.’ Had to haul in Churchill to do what they couldn’t. And Churchill, owing to his lifelong experience in politics, war and networking, pulled it off.
Where is our Caesar, controlled or uncontrolled today? Who has that kind of experience? Who can build it when everything in the public space is gay and fake, and has been gay and fake for a while?
I am not rejecting the notion that, on a biological level, emancipation can easily be switched off. I am always pleasantly surprised by how men instinctively act towards their woman as if coverture were legal, and obviously how women love that act.
Just saying that to actually accomplish that on a societal scale, within our lifetime — that’s a puzzle with a lot of moving pieces. You need:
– guns. Some kind of army. Loyal soldiers. Where are we to find them? Blackrock? The closest thing we have to a plan is Aidan’s plan, and that is not exactly a shortshot.
– a faith. Jim’s Christianity. Has to be Jim’s Christianity or something else very closely resembling it. The faith outranks the media, but how the faith translates to media is a non-trivial question. Need a dumbed down version for virality.
– money. Or more generally, enough societal functionality for coordination, but if you have adequately solved the money/crypto question, I think you’re in business.
If you have that, you can get started. Hell, once you get going, should be fun. There is a lot to do, ranging from but not restricted to:
– abolition of parliament, restoration or establishment of monarchy. Probably establishment though — are the European monarchical houses still fit for rule? I have my doubts. (But do note how even that almost footnote-like thought has a lot of consequences.)
– proclamation of the nation’s faith: Christianity. Appoint arch bishop and inquisitor.
– dissolution of the universities. Very much looking forward to this one.
– law changes: bring back coverture, death penalty, some other stuff. Get rid of laws strangling business.
– proscriptions.
– go to mars.
The list goes on.
It is not that that list is unattainable, far from it. On a long enough timescale, it is almost inevitable. But on a short timescale I do agree with Pax that we have a damn long way to go.
Culture is downstream of power. If power decides to change the culture, poof, the culture changes. Look at Poland and gay. If a radical change in one direction can happen so fast (Poland being brought almost overnight into cultural alignment with Europe and Nato) cultural change in the other direction can happen equally fast.
Start throwing sexually aggressive trannies off high buildings in front of an assembled crowd and cameras rolling, the crowd will be cheering before they hit the ground.
A long Alf comment. Nice.
I usually hate panaceas, but I cannot help but point out that a legit war, by which I mean casualties in abundance, long lists of the glorious dead, and a necessity to suspend “global” normality in an effort to have Normal Society “soldier” in, solves easily 75% of your concerns, and ~75% of the unsolved ones. Still a long way to go, but way easier.
For all parties, of course, which is why the Total Normie Death crowd still has juice inside the beltway.
Heh well ‘war is the father of us all’.
But I don’t want some temporary ruler whose sons will go at each other’s throats the moment dad’s no longer around. I want God’s Kingdom.
Also, forgot to add, but it is interesting to observe how different people go about working towards our general goals. I envy how you, KD, seem to be building (or at least attempting to build) an actual network of Christian gigachads. I on the other hand am instinctively bunkering; it’s not that I don’t try a bit of networking here and there, just that this blend of Neoreaction/Christianity is so alien to most of my countrymen that it takes too much talking for too little result.
It’s not the culture change that I am zero’d in on, it’s the power change. That’s the kicker right.
Power is hard-earned.
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Take the shill test.
The basic matter is you make a variety of cogent statements about various things in general, but which are unrelated or merely tangentially related to your preoccupation with men’s choices in spank material in particular. Has not been made clear what if anything you are actually advocating in regards to this matter.
A powersource lying on the table will be picked up by something, absolutely; but what does that have to do with the price of tea in china? Not clear how Z follows from A. The link you presumably assume to be obvious has not been spelled out. You speak of A which is true, but then where does Z come into the picture? It sounds like a non-sequitur.
Heresy is already proscribed in any case. What special dispensation is necessary? Surely you don’t think your interlocutors have been arguing for giving a special pass to communications if they take the form of smut; ie, ‘this is a porn parody so it is except from charges of heresy teehee’. If not that, then what?
I am also having difficulty in unpacking what exactly Pax’s point is. There is a lot of degeneracy around, porn being one of them.
We are all in general agreement on the subject matter. But the point, again and repeated again is that, all the degeneracy that we see in society today is downstream of the main problem that is, unowned women, i.e. female emancipation and an evil State Religion that upholds those ‘values’. Everything else is a symptom of the disease.
You don’t treat the symptoms, you want to treat the underlying disease. Simple as.
We basically need to completely undo female emancipation, make women property again and all the rest will follow, but it is a coup complete problem.
The 1500s Monarchical establishment didn’t establish control over communication channels the elite were using. The printing press problem. Back channels undermine the vertical communication of hierarchical command structure, too much and it pushed the king out and transforms elites into horizontal communication oligarchy. No longer up and down but side to side.
With no head, moral authority breaks down in a way that political authority does not. Porn/degeneracy being a symptom but also a nasty positive feedback loop that accelerated traditional moral authority breakdown. Owning (property) women requires a source of positive moral authority because unsurprisingly, men can sympathize with and be influenced by property that can talk. Coverture died first, then marriage, now can’t even monogamously date.
Directional causality stops mattering in the same way the question of the Chicken or the Egg becomes meaningless. Symptom and disease merge aesthetically. Who knows if Z follows from A, but they’re in the same picture smiling happily together, content in the presence of each other. Taliban didn’t concern themselves over which came first, they wiped it all away in one fell aesthetic swoop. Distancing myself from my Americanism, and looking at it objectively, fall of Kabul was beautiful.
But once in power, the question of restoring Monarchical structure ultimately becomes a question of establishing control over communication channels and forcing them to be vertical again rather than horizontal. Removing Harvard is not enough. Removing the ability for communication channels to be weaponized against you in the future is imperative. Future academia likely has to be structured top down in a military fashion if involved in areas other than STEM.
And then there’s the question of state religion, which I think was clear. It too needs to be hierarchical. The lack of hierarchical religion in America to act as a successor state religion precludes coverture being normalized. Creating a Department of Religion that is horizontal in communication channel is bound to result in Puritans running the show, but with 1000 schisms it will be hard putting together anything cohesive under one Patriarch.
>Surely you don’t think your interlocutors have been arguing for giving a special pass to communications if they take the form of smut
Having an ongoing major communication breakdown with Red.
There is no communication breakdown between you and Red, their is a stubborn resistance on your part to contend with the fact that your extensive arguments are simply not compelling. You are doing that Boomer Con thing where you think that if you just cram in enough facts, if you just word your position beautifully enough, you will win over the other side. But that’s not going to happen, for two reasons that I can see.
1) No one (serious and important) disagrees with your assessment of why porn is bad or that it (more precisely, the causal factors it represents by proxy) needs to be addressed. So all of that part of your argumentation is rendered futile after the first time it is deployed, meaning every re-deployment is adding Noise, not Signal. You aren’t just preaching to the choir, you’re singing the same opening line of an old hymn over and over again. This is tiresome.
2) You are working from the priors of a demotist system. You are talking about “laws” fully within the Liberal World Order Frame, by which I mean a rime of populist representation over top a depth of bureaucratic operation. You keep talking about Parties and Laws and Governance with the assumption that a post-Restoration, or Coup Complete, government will very much resemble the systems in place now. Additionally, you assume rollbacks, “retvrns,” and reinstitutions of past models of constitutional democracy. To be very blunt, this feels like building sandcastles in a sandbox.
There is no going back. The only way Out is Through. Of course elements of the past are useful to us, of course old methods can and should be dusted off, reinvigorated, and used properly. But there is no going back, and Jim has articulated very clearly why this is the case. Now, should their be a 7/8ths die off, and the only survivors are us and our guys, I bet we could make a go of running Constitution 2.0 … but why in h*ck would we do that?
I am only speaking for myself here, obviously, but I am a Monarchist, an Authoritarian with White Christian characteristics. I see no need for volumes of law (English Common Law is trash, we could toss out the entire thing and have a better system from square 0), I see no need for lawyers, I see no need for legions of bureaucrats and box checkers and bean counters. I do see the need for Bureaucracy, as that is the extension of power by proxy and is unavoidable for any leader that wishes to lead people in absentia, control lands he doesn’t occupy, and hold down more territory outside of line of sight and vocalization range. But it’s more important to pick the right people, keep overhead and headcount low, and build systems that incorporate what has been learned the hard way over the last ~300 years, and one of those lessons, one of the most important, is to reduce regulation in all things. Each man is the King of his castle, and this is a very important thing that gets glossed over; the King lends a portion of his Agency to his Nobles, his people, when he yields to their autonomy within the confines of Property. Recall that CR thinks he should be allowed to tell the Peasants what food they should eat, to the point that he wants to outlaw Dominoes Pizza and punish Donny Domino, the guy running the pizza shop. He says this is because he cares about the health of the poor peasants, the ones too stupid to care about their own health and welfare. How is your position different from CR’s in terms of the tools you say should be used and the noble motivations? Please don’t explain “porn bad” to me again for the umpteenth time, that’s not the debate, that’s not what this is about. I’d rather hear and try to understand how what your advocating is any different than all the other “there should be a law for people’s own good” initiatives and crusades.
Drunk driving is bad. Innocent people suffer because of the bad choices of lone actors. Law upon law, punishment upon punishment gets levied on the populace in the futile attempt to extirpate this badness and sate “the people’s” desire for “justice.” But drunks keep driving, and now good men who’ve had a few beers and are more than capable of operating a vehicle responsibly get their lives ruined, LEOs humiliate and abuse people with stupid roadside torture rituals, HR Karens & Catladies build careers and fortunes off of this pet issue, and miles of paperwork stream endlessly to and fro, all in futility, on the shoulders of Drunk Driving is Bad.
You and I have so many hills at our disposal. Why you’ve chosen this one to die on, and on the spears of your hard won comrades no less, is utterly perplexing to me.
There was communication breakdown. Red kept asserting I wanted to ban porn. I kept pointing out at no point did I ever say that or advocate that. I just want to sweep it into a corner out of sight. In the same way I would not argue for a ban on prostitution, but I definitely don’t want solicitation to be taking place on my front lawn, prostitutes should be swept into brothels out of sight. I’m not even saying it has to be that out of sight, just a couple blocks from the main road would suffice.
To be fair, I did the same to Red. Half of our posts are us talking past each other. At a certain point I got fanatically stubborn.
>You are working from the priors of a demotist system. You are talking about “lawsâ€
I don’t think I’m working from the priors of a demotist system, but I am using their language to describe monarchical systems, which sucks and is an exercise in tedium.
Demotist systems “culturally appropriated” those terms from monarchy. The King did have laws, his law. The King did have parties, his party. The King did have etc. All these things suck because they got democratized. Law came from somewhere. Its origins is from Kings.
Like how our fathers were the government when we were boys. It was his roof and his rule. He was king. His wife the bureaucracy. Imagine if it became the public’s roof and the public’s rule, actually, you don’t need to imagine. Just look at Public Housing with heavy CPS presence. The result is that demotist law isn’t law, rule isn’t rule, etc. “Every man a king” really is a good way of thinking about it, but like how “law” got “culturally appropriated” by leftists, Huey Long used it for socialism.
I keep talking about pretext. A very dirty word today, but pretext is often what Monarchs used to removing pesky aristocracy/bureaucrats that should be removed without looking like a tyrant because that does matter. I think pretext has been given a bad name because it originated from monarchical systems and demotists naturally don’t like that. But here’s another way to think of pretext, think about some of the semi truths your parents told you as a child to obtain obedience. They needed your obedience to take care of you, but you were too young to handle the full truth. That is similar to legal pretext where a semi truth is used to facilitate rule. Like a child, there are things that don’t need to be aired out in the open when rule is administered, but a just cause is still required. That’s all pretext is. The bloating of law by lawyers may have happened due to spiraling on pretext.
Check out my comment here.
https://blog.reaction.la/economics/enormous-move-in-bitcoin-coming-up/#comment-2874195
My idea of law is based on justice which is inseparable from sovereignty. But sovereigns are inseparable from other sovereigns. They inevitably will be in close proximity to each other on a frequent basis. A power game ensues. Individual sovereigns are what you might call the individual land/business/home owner. Scaled up we get what might be called local government. Scaled up yet further is federal. Because it’s possible to directly answer to one authority directly above you, it’s possible to be co-opted into power hierarchies. That makes Monarchy biased to being a friendly government of sovereigns that is interested in co-opting smaller sovereigns into a formalized hierarchy. That is how the Hapsburg Austro-Hungarian Empire could exist without being a system of constant ethnic conflict indicative of what we see today in multi ethnic democracies.
Democratic government sources it’s legitimacy from “the people.” Every would be sovereign being answerable to many is impossible, that inherently destroys sovereignty. Therefore, democracy is antithetical to sovereignty and the power game is highly biased towards crushing smaller sovereigns rather than co-opting them. This is unlikely to be a friendly government.
Not seeing it. Shakespeare’s company was known as the Kings men, because of direct royal control.
In his plays within a play, he depicts Kings directly telling players what key parts of the play should say, and, given his job position and the structure of the theater organization in which he worked, that was likely autobiographical.
If you look at his plays about Kings, there is a central message that the overthrow even of weak, unjust, and arrogant Kings is a very bad thing, for chaos is unleashed, and pressure of circumstances results in the new ruler doing very wicked things. The change in topic matter of his plays coincided with a change of the Royal personnel in charge.
When Kings were in charge, and they were in charge all the way up to George the fourth, they had about as much control over messaging as we see in the legacy media today. But because they were not trying to immanentize the eschaton, it was considerably less obnoxious and intrusive than today.
It’s more than porn and it’s not related to how we own our women
Jim’s point about romantic literature isn’t the example I’d have chosen but it’ll do. But I don’t see an easy fix. Replace porn with rock and roll but that would lead you down a musical ally jazz swing Elizabethan English country music. Maybe outlaw dancing how much license do we allow any sort of artist remember in their time the most conservative artist today were radicals. Maybe you say no problem we’re puritans once we’re in power we shall have bonfire of all the vanities
But the problem is a civilization that can’t innovate adapt is as doomed as that of one that follows every nigger fad. Those men aristocrats into romance novels also into science theology technology industry etc and those things not morte d Arthur both accelerated us in good ways and bad.
This is why I keep insisting you can’t set up an arbiter like Christ cuckery it needs to be more like church of Gnon. The test of every cultural change must be is it good for our people and the nation and culture they can not survive without. Church of gnon is church of reality unlike Christianity it recognizes hierarchy is fundamental rather than saying maybe we will anoint king if he acknowledges there are higher authorities.
It is completely related to how we own our women. Take a look at the art and literature from 1663 to 1820. Not much porn, and little or no romance.
Energy not wasted gaming women and teaching other men how to game women was applied to more productive endeavors. Men dearly loved their wives, but it wasn’t the be-all and end-all of their existence because it didn’t have to be.
Not what I said. It is a symptom, not a cause. There was no ban on Romance literature between 1670 and 1820, but there was no romance literature either.
Romance literature is an immensely bigger and more hurtful problem than male oriented porn, but both porn and romance are primarily symptoms of something terribly wrong, and not themselves causal factors.
I’m not separating (female oriented porn) Romance literature from male oriented porn, nor hard porn from soft porn. It’s all porn from the 1500 perspective. Some Churches today stand by Romance literature as being porn, but they are losing that fight badly.
Speaking of 1500s, that’s the birth of English Socialism. Puritanism started spiraling as well with Levellers, Diggers, and Ranters by the 1600s.
>primarily symptoms of something terribly wrong, and not themselves causal factors
In biological systems there are many examples of bidirectional causation. Symptoms have an awful tendency to positively feedback into causes which feedback into symptoms. Sometimes have to treat both symptom and cause at the same time in order to get the situation under control.
I’m not thinking in:
A->B->C…
but ABC…
Breakdown in knowable causality direction pushes towards naive dialecticism and analysis based on aesthetics. Not that far from BAP and Mishima. Maybe I’ve gone a little crazy, but these are crazy times.
You should be. The gender equality game leads only to dark and evil places.
The male porn-viewer is well aware that what he’s watching is not real. It is not even fantasy. Porn stars look terrible off-screen, and the few who haven’t already hit the wall at 800mph are certainly not wife material. It’s just fap material, visual viagra, a drug to make whacking off a little easier or more fun. Which, yes, can be addictive, but so are lots of other substances.
This is not at all equivalent to what goes on in a woman’s mind when she reads her Harlequin novels. The female protagonist is designed to be a self-insert; the female reader invariably imagines herself in the position, meeting her future husband. It very much colors her expectations and desires and changes her attitude toward real men. It conveys an image of men that a skeptic might claim is “obviously” impossible, but which women by their own words and actions clearly believe is possible: the invincible pirate king who does whatever he wants and can have any woman he wants, yet can’t seem to resist her charms in particular and will bring her power and riches and adventures she can scarcely dream of.
Men don’t actually want porn stars, they want the physical act but in their minds they’re substituting the face of some other girl they know or like. Women form genuine expectations from the fiction they read. The closest analogy in men is not porn, but waifus. The typical Otaku is literally living in a fantasy world and becoming increasingly isolated from and confused by real women. Porn guy doesn’t compare the women he meets to some abstract ideal seen in the porn; Otaku does compare women to the waifu.
I still wouldn’t ban anime, because it’s still just a symptom – these guys retreat to their fantasy worlds because the actual women they meet are a constant disappointment, obese and unfeminine and generally trash, and they either don’t understand plating or just can’t get into that mindset. It’s still very different from rom-com and rom-fantasy, but it’s at least a somewhat apt analogy.
For the record: I did not say you were “a moralfag McChristian”. I said you were moralfagging, and may have compared some of your rationale to that of McChristians (I don’t recall that, but maybe), but that is not the same thing. Within the brotherhood, we criticize the sin, not the sinner. I believe you to be of good character; I just think you took a wrong turn. Our enemies want us in a state of perpetual impotent outrage and subject us to non-stop humiliations for that very reason; don’t be outraged, find the calm but ruthless Machiavellian center that coldly does what must be done when the opportunity arises.
“What would someone from 1967 think about 1990?”
The late 60s were a FAR MORE hedonistic time then now. You admitted at one point you were a drunk so are you still a drunk, the booze is starting to impact your thinking…
“My disagreement with allowing porn (really just enemy controlled communication) to freely proliferate is effectively a proxy for my disagreement with allowing any form of communication from proliferating after coup completion. All the doors of open society must be slammed shut and then welded shut with Chinese style Covid era brutality”
No that is some kind of totalitarian state, after the great helicopter ride of all leftists what you basically do is kill any and all leftists priests and intellectuals. Communications networks are pretty open but “ideas” especially among the elite are a quick death penalty matter. Basically you don’t restrict things you kill troublemakers, and anyone in government is briefed on why it’s absolutely necessary to kill troublemakers.
When emancipation was switched back on in 1963 the sales pitch for men was that you could get laid. Casual sex would now be available. Which men like. But, of course, as men lost status, the proportion of men for whom sex of any kind was available dropped, and has continued to drop. By 1973 this had become apparent, and men were beginning to complain.
I mean the social control against casual sex was loosened in the early 60s before the second wave feminism thing came…
I don’t think so.
Feminism was switched on in 1963, and they started telling men that this was great for men, because casual sex. And it was. It stopped being great for men rather quickly, and by 1972, 1973, men were noticing. 1967 was peak casual sex, four years after feminism was switched on.
I wasn’t there but I always thought of second wave feminism as more of a late 60s if not early 70s start.
To clarify I think in the early 60s they did the asian/slav thing… loosen cultural prohibitions against casual sex and control of women by male relatives but without actually elevating female status.
Women naturally have more power than men. If forever free to cruise for an upgrade, status will rise.
When you say this, everyone nods. When I say this, I get curbstomped or at the very least receive a wedgie 🙂
I wasn’t strictly pointing to sexual hedonism. Between 1967 and 1990 there was nigger emancipation that got so bad Rudy Giuliani, a Republican of all things, managed to claw his way into being the Mayor of New York City from 1994 to 2001. Nigger emancipation got put on hold in the 1990s, but as you can see today, is back in full swing with far more radicalism. In the 1960s race riots were shocking and unusual and resulted in military force being employed to restore order. By 1990s, military force was only employed with great hesitance and after major destruction had happened. Today, race riots are frequent and we give them space to freely burn stuff down.
Watch the change in TV from 1967 to 1990. The racial makeup altered a lot. As for the question of sexual behavior, you can look at fertility rates. Based on those, there’s more sexual dysfunction today than there is in 1967.
As for my current status of intoxication. I at least have the decency to announce intoxication when posting, so currently no. Drunk posting is a bit of a personal vice. The shit that comes out of my mouth would get me lynched in “polite” company, or possibly I’m just immensely paranoid, and the people I could trust to keep my secrets are nearly all dead, and drinking only really has value when there’s someone to talk with.
Apologies are in order though for shitting up comment section, though the drunk post was only a minor fraction of not so great posting. Main issue is being unusually and fanatically stubborn, once I dig into a position I find it nearly impossible to leave it. Ethnic trait. Can’t help it much sometimes.
Second week on the job as a GS14 in the IRS. I have no idea what to do. I don’t think they want me to do anything. Last week got caught up on my sleep. Any advice. My last job was picking strawberries in California. At least I don’t have to live like a street shitting Indian anymore, right! Or a gay hooker like Kunning Druger.
yawn!
Getting a lot of sock puppetry these days. Wish the script writers were a bit more entertaining though. This is cringe level spoofing.
Ghost? Again!
Chad says to pull yourself up by your bootstraps or he’ll eat your spleen.
Three Pakis’ walk into an Indian restaurant ordering chicken tikka masala and naan-bread in a spicy curry. One of them sees Kamala Harris at another table eating a dog and suddenly gets the running shits. Asks the maître d’ where the toilet is and is directed to the street in the back alley where he is surrounded by human feces and maggots. When finished Kunning Druger, a makeshift bathroom attendant, offers him a towel because it’s the only job he can get.
And all my posts are deleted cuz I honestly don’t know which exact shit move of soros you hate the most lol
Tell us Soros’s role in the Blinken Nuland Kagan Soros conspiracy to give us another brother war.
And, while you are at it, tell us what the problem is that ensues if a state, society, tribe, religion, people, empire, or faith emancipates women.
This one is kinda true… worthless immigrants do get high level government (and “private” institutions the government controls) jobs.
I can get you a job as my assistant GS9 making $90K per annum. But, you’ll have to help me dispose of the occasional dead hooker.
Never killed one…
Of course you didn’t… Did I say dead hooker? I meant to say meat bag with bones. My bad! HR says I can only hire a black woman. So… put on a lot of QT extra dark and a dress and heels. You’ll answer only to Tanisha Comintator, got that! And bring a large bag of lime from Home Depot, thanks!
You are now on moderation for lack of funny. Improve your act.
Your persona is an undesirable recent immigrant. Keep in character, or flesh out a new character.
Where I was some years ago, almost everyone from GS-07 to GS-14 was White, male, and close to retirement, or even way past retirement age. USG can’t find nearly enough replacements for core DoD civilian engineering work, and the ones they could find just didn’t want to stick around. While they were good and capable men with tremendous experience, I couldn’t stand the work culture. The rules, the process, the boredom. 7-9k a month couldn’t ameliorate the pain of often doing absolutely nothing because of outside logistic problems. Say some government contractor, often a minority owned business, fucks up and delays the shipment of vital parts by a week. The result was having to sit in a SCIF alone for 15 hours a day that entire week with nothing to do.
I was told it wasn’t always like that, and that they were trying to regain capability to do great things again. I observed that they were still capable of doing great things because the workforce was almost identical to the workforce 30 years ago, minus a few retirements and deaths, but hard to do anything when the minority woman owned business you’re mandated to contract out to delivers electronics that have the negative and positive wiring switched and several hundred thousand dollars of low production electronics go up in smoke as soon as you plug it in. They lost the capability to do stuff because the government killed the supply chain, and the most stupid thing about the whole situation is that higher DoD bureaucracy, the political appointed ones, decided the problem was simply a lack of funding. Of course everyone in the workplace knew what the actual problem was, but that didn’t matter at all.
I hate to detract from the relentless pornography conversation, the Ghost-tier shilling, and the pathetic D&C poasting, but I feel compelled to discuss conspiracy theorization and it’s been a while since I’ve made some classic KD Terrible Predictions by the KD Terrible Prediction Corporation (a wholly owned subsidiary of the Jim’s Right Metanational Based Conglomerate), so here’s the latest:
I think Shoigu is firing all the good generals to free them up for Wagner, which will expand using Belarusian resources and manpower to sweep down into Ruthenia Proper and block the Neo Polish-Lithuanian Tardmanwealth.
That is certainly a possible outcome, but if it comes to pass, I doubt it will be the consequence of conscious intention at the top, but rather the chaos unleashed by the fall of empire.
Porn and whores are controlled by limiting the amount of women who can become whores. Whoring is an ancient profession and it was tolerated by our European forebears even as they shunned it. Something can be immoral and damaging to the individual, but banning it can still create more harm than good to the society. Wives knowing that neglecting their men will send them to spend their money on whores is a good incentive to be a dutiful wife. Seeing whores be socially shunned and excluded is also very informative for young girls; other women will shun you if you are a whore.
Certain aspects of it urgently need to be curtailed, such as onlyfans whores manipulating young men into simulated relationships and then parasitizing them, but banning whores is not the proven method. Marriage by capture would be an effective method, or the modern version of coveture and keeping women isolated and at home. Men who have a fiance or a wife who loves, honors, and obeys them is going to do far more than banning porn will for keeping them from chasing porn whores.
If the elites and the state religion can castrate a nations boys *by getting the parents to do it for them* then the porn issue is not a hard problem to solve. Without elite support it will more or less just go away.
Off topic, I’m going to take a break. I hate arguing with good men (Pax and Starman) over stupid shit but I find it hard to restrain myself(Spergs are going to sperg). I’m just making myself hate men I really like so it’s best if I take off.
My life is finally starting to fit into order and I wanted to thank everyone here for the solid knowledge on so many subjects that have both enlightened my mind and helped push in the right direction.
I wanted to thank SJ for his game advice, I’m currently spinning 2 plates thanks to him, even if the spinning isn’t well done as I’d like. You may be a crazy with your talk about every other guy being a tranny, but your game advice is very good. Cheers.
KD, I hope have a scotch and cigar with you at Jim’s blog gatherings/shooting range/camp out when we are able to come to power as the GAE crumbles.
Com, you are a very bright man who should start lifting weights and move on from despair and whoring, you could be so much better than that.
And of course thank you to our Teacher Jim. There’s never anyone like Jim with such a wide verity of knowledge on so many subjects and thought crimes, who can present things in such a understandable manner. Without Jim and his marry band of thought criminals the world would be a very depressing place.
Sail strong, brother. I hope you come back, but breaks are good too. You mean a lot to me Red. Thanks for everything, and you’re always welcome on The Compound.
See you on that day.
https://youtu.be/Ja06DJrFe5E
Sensing the weakness of the global faggot empire it seems as if the Muslims are starting to smell blood:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghWBql2Kgzs
Our ancestors spent centuries fighting Muslims but no one even entertained the idea of burning the Quran. Moderns are absolute vermin with no sense of honor or humility.
But we already know who are the degenerates that gleefully burn sacred and religious texts, as we have suffered the traitors long enough. This people one day will be gone, and the entire world will be glad.
Muslims were never a substantial percentage of the population in any western country and in those days books were hard to come by. How many copies of the Quran would you have found in Vienna in 1683? Those would have been scholarly copies with some aristocrat and would have been extremely expensive to procure and would have been seen as a means to understanding the mindset of the enemy. So out of question to burn something so expensive.
Even so, Historically speaking, apart from Lebanon in the 20th century, has there ever been a case of Islamic-Christian civil war in the west?
I’m wondering if there have been cases of Historical Quran burning in India by Hindu and Sikh opponents either and I come up blank on this. They probably never entertained the idea of burning one, because of the reasons mentioned.
I did not completely understand the point you ate trying to make
Meaning “has there ever been been a case of Islamic-Christian civil war in countries with an insignificant population of Muslims.”
Everywhere you have a significant Muslim population, you have low level civil war which from time to time becomes high level civil war, as for example Serbia. There is no country, nor has there ever been, where Muslims and Christians coexist tranquilly.
Well Dubai might be an exception, but that is because all Christians there accept Muslim supremacy, and that you have to keep your Christianity quiet. Nearly all whites resident in Dubai are there in substantial part because they were unhappy with the level of protection provided by Globohomo, and prefer the protection of Islam. Which makes for tranquillity. Everyone knows they are second class to the men protecting them, and refrains from making waves.
Ouch, you’re right, I completely forgot the serbs and Kosovo. So the question to ask is whether either of the groups have burnt the others’ religious texts. And an internet search throws up no results. Now Serbs have inexpensive access to the Quran as the Muslims have inexpensive access to the Orthodox Bible. Yet, no instances of any burning of these texts by either group.
Why would you say this is?
And why is the burning of a religious text of an antithetical religious group seen by Western Taliban as a degenerate act worthy of so much vitriol? Is it a case of riling up the opposing group and making them more cohesive while conferring no cohesive benefit to one’s own group?
Muslims have demonstrated that they find it intolerable. Christians, as a whole community, offer up their sons for sodomy. Now, of course there are many Christians who do not, will not, and don’t tolerate this, but in the aggregate, Christianity as the World Dominant Religion is falling. You see high level religious leaders advocating for sodomite veneration. You have those utter cowards in Tennessee paying for the funeral of the mass shooter while the victim’s families were forced to do fundraisers just to get the bodies buried. You have female pastors in rainbow vestments celebrating Planned Parenthood and mocking God from the alter. All of this indicates a religion with no faith.
After global Christianity collapses and the various mustard seeds sprout, you will see (I hope, brother) a reawakening of propriety, dignity, honor, and vengeance. There are bibles left in hotel rooms for niggers, whores, and degenerate riff raff to find. Think about that in terms of the nature of Divinity: the Holy, Infallible Word of Nature’s God, the Creator of all things, Author and Finisher of all life, the Alpha and the Omega… is sitting in a cheap dresser with cigarette burns next to a piss soaked bed waiting for some slattern with semen on her face to “see the light.” This lunacy is paralleled by many, far too many churches bending over backwards to bring Africa niggers “to the faith” while their communities rot from the inside.
I went on a tangent. Burning any holy scripture is a statement of perspective as well as intent. If some Scandi cuck burns a Koran, I find it deceitful, disreputable, and in very poor taste, as not a single Scandinavian is worth a tinker’s dam in current era, they do nothing good, and their whole society needs to go away so their historical/legendary identity can rest in piece and inspire others. If Wulfgar Thundercock, third of his name, King of Appilachistan and Protector of the Midatlantic Reach, Breaker of Thots and Leader of Chads, burns a Koran, then I am putting on my gack and rolling with the homies to the rally point because we are going on Crusade.
This is what the guy on Memri in the link is saying: the Swedish Government needs to have someone knowledgeable explain what’s at stake here, because Islam is a living religion that has plenty of loyal followers who hear, obey, and command deference from Jizyah-cels. Christians, again, in the aggregate, sit idly by while others desecrate their relics, symbols, and holy books, so the act is literally less shocking.
Jews and Scandicucks are burning Korans as a provocation to durka durka mohammed jihad and an impotent protest against replacement, respectively. If I start burning Korans, it is because I have kill zones set up on my property and I plan on feeding my trespassers-cum-victims to pigs in order to create a causus belli. Taking the lessons of how to properly commit genocide in a Christian manner from Jim and applying them to mohammedans.
The reason I plan on immediately betraying the mohammedans is because I know they plan on doing the same thing to me. The only way to enforce a cooperate-cooperate equilibrium on Islam is to commit atrocities the first time they get unruly. They have a “mostly peaceful protest” or even a legitimately peaceful protest, and the only responsible move is to kill all of the protesters and their wives and children. They run over little kids at a Christmas market and you have to burn their mosques while they are at prayer. They look at you funny and you beat them to death in the street because they forgot their place and only lethal violence will remind them of that place.
I don’t think you know the history of Europe well enough for this conversation. Just so you know, Istanbul used to be part of Christendom for a very very long time. On the other side of Europe there was a similar situation. This goes on even after the printing press existed and every peasant was reading Luther or something.
No, they didn’t entertain the idea because they were more honorable and humble than moderns, who are complete degenerates.
It’s difficult to put into words if you’re looking for an explanation, like trying to teach a blind man about color, I am more surprised you don’t understand it instinctively. Just reflect on the fact that no one respectable and capable of producing advanced civilization has done such things even with the printing press available. Do you also go to graveyards to randomly piss on tombs? I don’t know what to tell you.
When the Ottoman Empire was going on strong they didn’t go around randomly burning churches, setting bibles and monks on fire or putting castles to the sword for no reason. Reflect on your own faith and spirituality and consider the matter.
I understand your point. What I don’t understand is your vitriol. Certainly there is a lot to dislike the progs for and spew vitriol on them. But Quran Burning hardly makes it to the top 10. Its your sense of priorities that is confusing me.
Also, Don’t Mohammedans burn the flags of other countries during protests? For a nationalist, that is as incendiary an act as burning a religious scripture would be to the faithful. For many cultures the MotherLand or the FatherLand is a deity.
The Spaniards burned all of the Aztec and Mayan holy books they could find. They went looking pretty hard to find as many as possible to destroy. Burning the books of demon worshippers is not a modern affectation. If I ever get the chance, the only Korans left in existence would be hidden in Inquisitorial vaults and Islam would be a religion practiced only in hell.
Okay, Sanity restored. Though Jim does not seem to like it. I was wondering if there was some deep esoteric socio-psychological reason Western Taliban was hinting at.
Muslims respect Jesus Christ more than modern Europeans, it’s easier to spit on Jesus Christ in the West that it is in the Middle East.
Books of demons are obviously not holy, but as far as I know the Spaniards didn’t burn “holy books”. They went there and told them directly and to their face that what they worshiped were clearly demons while inside their own city from the very beginning, directly to the emperor and the priests. It is a completely different context. Those very same men never even thought of burning a Quran, even though they spent centuries fighting them off.
Someone like you will never get a chance, you are not worthy.
Can you say something along the lines of, “Mohammed was a heretic demon worshipper who will burn in hell for his lies?”
The “angel” that appeared to Mohammed was demon, whether demons are real or metaphorical, for he represented an inconstant God. Which is why the Muslim world inherently has the problems that it has today and always has had.
This does not necessarily make Mohammedans demon worshipers. It makes them deceived.
It would necessarily make Mohammed himself a demon worshipper. I am not actually interested in whether or not they actually worship demons. Enough of them do for me to damn the lot. I want to know if Western Taliban is using his name semi-ironically, in the fashion of the White Sharia meme, or if he is a mohammedan in actual fact. Asking him to commit a mild blasphemy against the demon prophet of mecca is a shill test I am applying to him.
You’re no one to demand “shill tests”, but even then it’s not an actual shill test, it’s just some degenerate ramble.
But I’ll tell you directly that no, I’m not a Muslim. My ancestors would turn in their graves if I was, I’d rather die. My people have done more to fight Islam than yours several times over, the blood feud is actually real and deeper than anything you can invoke.
You don’t understand the issue because you have no honor and are extremely arrogant. My moniker is a form of respect to a group of men who, albeit my likely enemies in a different time period, have proven themselves. That is already more that can be said for westerners in general. In Anglin’s words: Americans are a bunch of fat worthless losers who do nothing but eat burgers, watch porn and masturbate all day.
It is absolutely a shill test. Even taking taqiya into account, it is not the sort of thing a mohammedan could say. That is the whole point of the test. Not saying it does not prove you are one, but saying it would prove you are not.
I save my honor for people worth it. They kill children, so I will not spare theirs. They destroy our holy things and places, so I will not spare theirs. They took our lands, so I will take theirs. If I ever get the chance, I will put Ghengis Khan to shame. He was an honorable man and he still made a desert and called it peace. God willing, I will be able to inflict a similar peace on them.
Yes they are, but that is because of the women problem. If women get forever choice if consent is moment to moment, ninety percent of men will lose. So, since reproduction and survival is the most important thing, they adopt the lifestyle of a loser all round.
I don’t care much for Islam, but a while back I drove by an Islamic center with a squishy rainbow pride flag flying Lutheran church next door. I reflected to my wife and kids that I probably had more in common with the Moslems there than with the Lutherans. To wit, the Moslems and I both agree:
There is a God that demands stuff of us in terms of behavior and I’m not Him.
We all have a serious sin problem that we can’t address without Divine help. And we’re all going to face judgment by that same God absent help for that sin problem.
I don’t believe that those Lutherans believe those two propositions.
I also believe that the Moslems likely have demoted the Lord Jesus Christ far less than the Lutherans have. The Moslems demote Him to a major prophet, on the scale of Elijah or perhaps Moses, whereas the Lutherans demote him lower than a community organizer.
Comparing American Progressive Christianity to mohammedans is hardly a fair comparison. The sand people are inbred and barely above niggers, but they are still the picture of health compared with a GRIDS-and-monkeypox-infected faggot drug addict. Someone can be a piece of shit scumbag and still be less despicable than an even bigger scumbag.
I am not saying we spare the female pastor and start burning korans like retards. I want to burn mohammedan and heretic alike, side-by-side on pyres kindled with pride flags and korans. In minecraft.
The problem is that right now, if we rated Islam as a ‘Christian denomination’, they’d probably be in the top half in terms of orthodoxy and orthopraxis. That’s a sad state of affairs. I remember when the bottom half included JW’s and Mormons. Now pretty much all of the big denominations are gone or going that way. My view is that Moslems are way down my enemies list. Yeah they’re on it, but they’re way lower than GAE, progressive ‘Christian’ denominations and the like.
Islam is 7th Century Scientology and only appropriate for semi-human cousin-fuckers, but it’s still 1000 times better than Progressivism or pozzed-out mainstream Christianity. It also has a slight chance of actually beating the progs, which is more than we can say. Our best plan is to wait until the Lefties destroy themselves along with what’s left of what used to be our civilization, then fight it out in the ruins and rebuild. The muzzies might actually conquer them (and us) if they can resist turning into soyjacks for another generation or two. My money is on the Left, but Islam has a chance.
This is what is bothering me. You are also spewing Vitriol on someone who is ostensibly on your own side over this issue.
When the Muslims have no qualms about desecrating holy places and texts of other religions, why do you have these gay hang ups about paying them back in the same coin? You weak faggot.
That is one of the many very bad things about Islam. We should not imitate them.
Unless, of course, state of war prevails, which it usually does, and they caused it, which they usually do.
But in general a Christian should show courteous, but not religious, respect, to the sacred totems of other faiths, unless demonic. Peace on earth to all men of good will. There are, on the other hand, ample supply of men of bad will.
After the past 14 centuries of their misbehavior, their religion is demonic. Allah is a demon of war and rape, and deserves no consideration from Christians unless they happen to live in occupied Christian lands. Then they must keep their head down and render unto Caesar. In Christian lands, we should burn their mosques and expel the believers. They kill little kids at Christmas markets. I will preferentially target GAE and globohomo over mohammedans, but I will not hold my fire if they so much as look at me funny.
What is your opinion on the Abassid empire, being how it is regarded as the golden age of Islam and all?
While the Abbassid Caliphate was extant,
1. Muhammad Ghazni attacked and razed to the ground several temples, massacred hindu non combatants in the 100s of thousands, sent untold Booty to Baghdad, had a lot of fun with Rape, slavery etc etc all very proudly recorded in Islamic records of that time
2. Muhammad Ghori did the same about 175 years later
These are the two Successful invaders. There were several more which had their asses handed down to them, but had they won, the results would scarcelay have been different. Whatever they say about the early Golden age of Islam was probably them consuming the social and human capital built up by the Persian Zoroastrians
Thundercock’s point stands
I have very little trust in Islamic scholarship, and less in progressive scholarship on Islam. In short, my opinion on the so-called golden age of islam is three words: We was kangz.
Ha, no doubt much truth in that.
There was *Persian* scholarship under Islamic rule which both Arabs and libs like to call “Islamic scholarship” https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad_ibn_Musa_al-Khwarizmi
The man was Persian but living under Arab Muslim rule so he had to use an Arab name
The Persians were a great Aryan-led civilisation, too bad that they got Islamized, but still it took a long time for even Islam to dumb them down. During that time, they had scholarship. Then, not. @alf
If a horde of desert nomads rode into America, routed its diverse military, beheaded every government employee, tossed the gays off rooftops, and told productive people, “Do as you wish, but give us five percent of everything you produce,” America would also enjoy a renaissance that the desert nomads would take credit for, with some justification.
Would this felicitous state of affairs be sustainable long-term? Probably not, but what is?
Yes, the “great achievements of Islam†were basically just Persians in arab blackface. The Abbasid caliphate was just the Persian empire taking over because Rome was finally gone.
I don’t want to burn Qurans. I want to expel all Muslims.
“You can live here just as long as we’re allowed to offend you. That’s what freedom means.”
Diseased boomer mindset.
I want to expel all mohammedans from existence. The abuse is to intimidate them so that genociding them in our countries is easier and dissuades other Islamic countries from trying to back them up. I am not offending them for offending them’s sake. I am offending them because it will make killing them all easier in the long run.
Right, so you would burn a Koran as a rallying point for your own troops as a prelude to War. In a sense it’s like William the conqueror burning the ships after landing in England.
You’re essentially telling your own side that you have burnt the ships and there is no possibility of a deal with the Mohammedans. There is no possibility of you selling them out to the Mohammedans either. It’s like crossing the Rubicon. There is no going back from that act
The message I’m getting here is that Swedes burning Korans is like Ukrainians burning Russian flags, an act of impotent rage that’s not going to get your country back.
There is a difference between building cathedrals on the rubbled ruins of their mosques you set ablaze and burning their holy book.
Larry David urinates on Jesus because he is impotent, has no sense of honor or integrity, lacks the vision and providence to actually raze churches to the ground and conquer what is left. This is much the same. The Mughals turned to rubble many Hindu temples and countless Hindu artifacts. Whereas modern feminists write demonic romances of Sita as a whore, and use the judiciary to compel Hindu temples admit women where they were not once allowed.
did any crusader ever anywhere piss on the Quaran?
There is no account of any Hindu warrior either pissing on the Quran or such like. And I was wondering why. Then I ask what would I do if I was in their place. Would I piss on a Quran or burn it publicly as a field commander or a General?
And the answer is, that it will unnecessarily rile up the opposing force and provide them with cohesion that I do not want them to have in addition to making many on my side uncomfortable. The squeeze is not worth the juice.
Higher priority is winning battles by motivating my own side with promses of unlimited Muslim Pussy and giving the defeated Moslem males the choice of conversion to Hinduism, expulsion, live in a ghetto as low status untouchables or death.
“Promises of unlimited Muslim Pussy”
You understand men.
And yet, Muslims don’t burn Bibles.
You are the petty, powerless and pathetic weak faggot here, just like the Swedes are pathetic weak faggots who burn holy scriptures while losing cities wholesale and the French even more so, and they’re getting replaced by the Muslims.
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Exodus+32&version=NKJV
19 So it was, as soon as he came near the camp, that he saw the calf and the dancing. So Moses’ anger became hot, and he cast the tablets out of his hands and broke them at the foot of the mountain. 20 Then he took the calf which they had made, burned it in the fire, and ground it to powder; and he scattered it on the water and made the children of Israel drink it.
I am no iconoclast, but I make an exception for Mohammed and his book of lies and all his works. The Koran is no holy scripture. It is an evil book, it leads to evil works, and it has no value except as a warning.
We Dharmics will always have a difference of opinion on this topic. The desert cultists are implacable foes of dharmic civilization and will be treated as such if we come to power.
The fundamental of their religion is world conquest and domination. Unless you convert and (even after that) admit yourself to a second class slave like existence no peace is possible with the desert cult.
No amount of temporarily allying with them will change their ways. Their rabid universalism is the biggest problem. Far worse and more fundamental than the universalism of Christianity. Jimian Christianity with national churches and capitalism should be incompatible with universalism of any kind.
Any thoughts on the superconductor paper that just came out?
What paper did you have in mind?
There are no end of bullshit and scam papers on using superconductivity to implement quantum computers, but last time I looked into the matter, actually doing it would require novel superconductors with rather remarkable properties that are theoretically possible, but not actually observed in practice.
The problem is that active quantum error correction, which is what most of these papers assume, is not realistic. You need a system where error states are coupled to the thermal environment, which is kept extremely cold, and the energy of the error states is considerably higher than the thermal energy of the ultracold environment, so that the error state is passively forced into the ground (no error) state, while the nonerror states are isolated from the thermal environment. Physically realising this in actual materials is a very hard problem – which a lot of people have been working on, but last I heard, had no actual superconducting material with the required rather weird properties. Therefore, nearly all papers on superconducting quantum computers just assume this problem is magiced away – because otherwise they would not be able to write a paper, and it is publish or perish. Active error correction is just going put classical noise into your qbits unless you can have circuits that extraordinarily free from noise, error, and analog imprecision, astronomically better than anything that has ever been physically realized.
Sorry, the paper is this one here:
https://arxiv.org/abs/2307.12008
I have no idea about the topic so can’t accurately assess. It seems to be doing the rounds on HN, LW, etc. and some people seem to be cautiously optimistic.
Progress, if the results can be replicated. How much progress depends on how large currents this material can carry. Probably not much carrying capacity so copper won’t be replaced anytime soon.
World shaking. But fabricating it into useful devices is likely to be hard. They can only make thin films of it, though their model of how it works would imply bulk material would superconduct as well.
Jim, if it is in fact world shaking can we get an Explanation for Priests, Paladins, Midwits, and Morons who can’t into technology with the adults?
From the Arxiv blurb, it is a superconducting material with Lead Ions in the crystalline structure that deform and reform in a unique way that allows for “fantabulous magik fuckery wot make no sense to me” (SQWs) which is apparently a big deal. Is that the proper interpretation, and if so, what does this mean for, say, cryptocurrency, multiphasic radar arrays, or pocket computing (RaspberryPi desktop or greater)?
‘what would be the consequences of a room temperature superconductor’ is a highschooler science-fair question. We will have infinite power because we will get it from infinite reservoirs like the earth’s core or sahara desert without cost, which means almost everything turns electric, including home heating and vehicles. Second, a lot more stuff is going to float, because the levitation effect as used on Maglevs will no longer cost anything significant to maintain. Third, computering will be done without waste heat, so more power in everything, but with longer batteries
You do see how the picture you paint strains credulity, yes?
That’s because all superconductors discovered to date have not only a maximum temperature but a maximum current density (amperes per cm²) above which they stop superconducting.
Maglevs are already a real thing; Japan is presently building one between Tokyo and Osaka. Their big problem is that the track has to be extremely straight, so most of this line is being tunneled through mountains.
What about floating cars and hoverboards and so on, F-zero? You would put it under the roads.
Maglevs are not really a thing, as outside Japan, apparently children of the lower castes will run back and forth inside the train to get it to tilt side to side, so that the maglev gets replaced with old fashioned cable for safety reasons. Cheaper superconductors would give you a more powerful effect and let you build something with versatility to it so that not even joggers could knock it over
Nothing much for a considerable time.
But in principle, super conductors allow super fast, super low power computers, they make nuclear fusion considerably less difficult, maglev trains (they levitated a thin film. Levitating a train is likely to be considerably more difficult) extremely compact, powerful, and efficient electric motors and generators, and lossless long distance power tranmission.
The most interesting application of this technology – an enormous leap forward in computing speed and power consumption – will require some method of fabricating very small circuits of this stuff, which no one has any idea how to do, though they are presumably thinking about it.
Diamond based semiconductor is closer to implementation and that’s still pretty far away.
There are some diamond based devices in use for high power applications, which is where diamond is better than silicon, but no use for computing, because large high quality diamond wafers are difficult to accomplish. This stuff superconducts while polycrystalline, due to tunnelling. So possibly you could make circuits that do not require large crystals.
The list of promising high temperature superconductors is long. They all failed to materialize. Is it different this time? I’m not holding my breath. The paper is also out of South Korea which raises eyebrows for various reasons.
Diamond wafers are getting bigger fast and there’s growing international competition with big funding. Probably within 10 years to hit consumer computing markets.
We do in fact have “high” temperature superconductors – just that “high” is liquid nitrogen temperatures rather than liquid helium.
Liquid nitrogen “high temperature” superconductors have been fabricated into useful forms, but last I heard were not yet in use. They are of the same family as this room temperature superconductor, so if one can be fabricated into a useful material, probably the other can also.
It’s been a topic for computers for a long time
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superconducting_computing
If I recall papers read long ago correctly, the RSFQ-based proposal was projected to go at 100+ GHz, which is nice. Nothing much came of it back then (at least nothing public). But if this works, things would certainly look up.
There are three sources of loss in an IC.
1. Ohmic losses in conduction paths. Occurs during switching and due to leakage.
2. Switching loss (not due to ohmic loss). During the interval when a gate changes state there is power being drawn. The shorter the switching interval the less power per gate. The more often the switching, more power. This is why power goes up when you raise the clock frequency.
3. Leakage losses. This is due to the geometries being so small that material insulating ability goes to hell and they start to conduct.
Well now it’s the “Digital Rubleâ€. As someone official put it, now there will be three forms of Ruble: cash, bank accounts, and these Digital Ruble things.
My take — given here to provoke your responses and correction — is that this is the Russian state trying to offer people an end-run around much of itself.
So they can control the supply of these DR’s somehow, and operate a “redemption window†somewhere, but otherwise let people “wire†each other DR’s via crypto methods, neither through SWIFT nor a SWIFT knockoff, but just straight up wallet ID to wallet ID, whenever they want.
Will it work? Could it work? I don’t know. But one way to get certain bureaucracies out of the way is to write them out of the loop at the nuts and bolts level, as an alternative to helicoptering them.
The stuffed suits wouldn’t take that lying down, though. And the temptations to fuck it up by adding “oversight†and “safeguards†and KYC to the scheme, man I don’t know.
It looks like a cargo cult to me- the point of bitcoin is it is hard currency- 21 million are to be made and that’s it. The digital ruble is 1 to 1 convertible with the regular one so it is subject to money printing. So it is giving private citizens the ability to run their own bank accounts with the running costs borne by the state. Only possible advantage I can think of is lower transaction costs for trade, but it is no more a reserve currency then the ruble.
Bank accounts are not cash, merely a claim against a bank. For all their flaws S pointed out these DRs have an advantage over bank accounts.
With DRs no bank accounts are needed, neither for storage of rubles nor for payment transactions. Without deposits the traditional business model of banks is in trouble.
My guess is that the DR is just a stablecoin hooked to an “account†full of Rubles somewhere. More Rubles in, more stablecoins minted/released somehow. And also a redemption window of some sort, so people can trade back and forth. Of course the temptation to bullshit how many Rubles are really in there will be just excruciating.
If true, a potentially huge economic benefit in many fields!
https://arxiv.org/abs/2307.12008
https://www.mic.com/articles/93295/why-are-police-officers-allegedly-trying-to-force-this-teen-to-get-an-erection
It’s very important to ban porn, especially “””child porn”””, amirite fellow right-wingers?
1) Private communication is not porn and 2) a 15-year-old girl is not a child.
Broke: arguing over the process
Bespoke: liquidating the processors
Order of operations problem. Come the day we pass the collective shit test, repeal the 19th, restore coverture, and make age of consent synonymous with age of marriage, yes abso-fucking-lutely ban pron and institute the death penalty for child pron (dictionary definition of child, not 18).
Banning it now, without doing anything else, is getting things out of order, and making yourself a useful idiot shock trooper for the Duluth model. Defending it under any and all circumstances is at least enemy memetics, if not direct enemy action. It’s the same people pushing porn and trannyism now who pushed porn and trannyism in Weimar Germany. As then, tolerance gets us nothing except an enemy win. This is not contradictory, the enemy has competing factions and competing idols.
Collection of random shit:
-US plans to ramp up 155mm artillery shells to 85,000 a month. A massive 6 fold increase! The catch, by 2028 and nowhere close to Russia’s daily production. Calling it now, it will be over budget and behind schedule. Just how long does GAE think the conflict will last. At the rate Ukrainian brigades are being liquidated…
-Back channel communication claims Russian elites don’t know what victory in Ukraine looks like. All they know is that they must avoid an embarrassing defeat. That is the nature of war, the more costly the war the bigger the payout has to be for domestic satisfaction, especially if you’re wining hard enough for total victory to be on the table. Prediction, Russia takes nearly all of Ukraine with the Poles and Hungarians moving into Western Ukraine to protect
ethnicNATO interests. Same back channel communication also claims the Russians would have certainly used a nuke if the Ukrainian counter offensive was successful and endangered Crimea. Lads, we avoided nuclear war. Time to pop the champagne bottles, or in my degenerate case, miller high life.-Cartels have been using drones and IEDs to great effect against the Mexican military. The government has largely retreated from most of Mexico. With any luck, entire DoD careers will be made out of dealing with this problem.
-The 81 year old Mitch McConnell froze up mid-sentence and have to be escorted away. Brezhnevian decline continues. Btw check out Dianne Feinstein. Good God she’s beyond fuckable age. They’re having to move her around in a wheel chair.
-LeBron James’s son, 18 years old, suffered a cardiac arrest. Totally not the vaccine.
-California is prosecuting several guys who bought $1 million worth of empty soda cans in Arizona and redeemed it for $7.6 million through Cali’s environmental recycling program. Apparently, that constitutes illegal importation. I didn’t realize California was a different country with it’s own customs and border protection. Perhaps conservative states could use similar justifications to embargo liberal states.
-RFK jr. is effectively running a populist Republican campaign minus religion.
-USMC is destroying good men and is likely going to decrease standards because a few recruits died in what was likely incidents of recruit stupidity. Instructors fucking tell people to fucking hydrate. How does someone die on a damn PFT or from extreme heat or during a non-training incident? USMC OCS has historically (unofficially) conducted training events “near” “black flag” conditions and no one died. Command wanted to bring back I.T. to OCS but that plan likely got fucked.
the supply chain for 155m shells is single sourced and has several bottlenecks chokepoints. primers in one location single sourced (from PA I think), casings single sourced from quad city., powder in yet another location also single sourced, final assembly at munitions plant in Iowa overseen by a lt. col at the IAAAP (https://www.jmc.army.mil/Installations.aspx?id=IowaCommand).
2028 at the minimum to see any improvement.
Military contracts need to be spread out across as many states as possible to secure votes in Congress. They also tend to favor complex, expensive weapons systems over cheap, simple mass production because the profit margins are higher on a Rolex than a Timex.
Joe Rogan has looked like he’s aged a decade since 2020.
Spiritual vaishya Mike Lindell, like many of his well meaning but unfortunate fellows, has not quite grasped the idea that the lawyer system is not the voice of God’s Own Truth channeled down into creation, but the voice of whatever the incumbent power is. Gives the lawyer system 5 million dollars and socio-political pwnage (far more costly) as a consequence.
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The power of Harvard and Yale was not acquired by academic excellence, but by fire and steel, and can only be challenged by the same.
Dianne Feinstein has been ready for the pillow for a while now. Yet another colourful disgrace, but she (or someone) grimly hangs on.
https://archive.ph/K8vuo
https://archive.ph/N6cxO
https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/dianne-feinsteins-missteps-raise-a-painful-age-question-among-senate-democrats
It’s good she’s often absent for senate votes.
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Now that it’s clear to many with a clue that Islam is a scourge upon the Earth that must be removed…
How best to accomplish this?
The Jews won’t do it.
India and USA are unlikely to. But USA might be an influence if they uphold Free Speech.
Europe won’t till is gets much worse.
Seems most peoples and religions won’t do it, not at least till the Islam problem becomes incredibly bigger and oppressive.
So what is the way to start a movement dedicated to purging Islam?
Do we have to start the equivalent of Madrasas… early youth indoctrination teaching centres, sponsoring Christian Jihadis, teaching 1488 Evropa?
Honestly… what are the short and long term solutions to this growing global problem?
Not worried about Islam when we, and you, are ruled by woke, which worships demons. We have bigger problems.
Woke does demons, yes of course, terrible disease of mind.
But Islam is based in pagan worship wrapped up in shrouds of the Testaments for cult effect by the unwashed brutal murdering dictator pedo Muhammad.
Woke is a major problem, but just because them laughable Mohammadens get to have four wives, and beat them, doesn’t make Islam right.
Woke is a political fad, it will be gone, at least technically, within this election cycle or two (unfortunately it will live on in meme influence for a decade till the next fad hits).
But Islam is not a joke, is growing for 1400 years, and must be considered an even existential problem given it literally seeks to murder all who are not Muslim (only unread ignorants still claim that is not the case, but it is, direct from the Islamic texts).
Woke will die, or go broke trying. Either way, moot.
Islam will literally kill you. It is a serious problem. And nobody has an answer.
The insanity started in 1820, and has been getting steadily more evil and more insane ever since. Cthulhu swims only left.
Demon worship in state power has only ever been removed with vast amounts of bloodshed. Muslims are not planning to desex my descendants and sodomize them.
Elections are over. The turnout of Biden voters who physically showed up at the polls in 2020 was comparable to the turnout at his rallies, indistinguishable from zero.
A Republic can only work with a virtuous elite, but republics undermine elite virtue. Hence the cycle of history. Everyone used to know this. Now it is time for Caesar.
I know I’ve seen you point out repeatedly the roundheads evacuated to the colonies following their disastrous first takeover of England.
“Muslims are not planning to desex my descendants and sodomize them.”
O yes, they are…
Luckily, denying Christianity and accepting Islam is enough to escape that fate.
As I said, they are not packing Christian kids off to their schools and teaching sodomy to Christian kids when the kids are sent to school.
Your daughter might become the additional wife of a Muslim, but they are not going to become whores, and if your son gets trannified, you can join the crowd tossing the groomer off a high building.
The Chinese are having no difficulty dealing with Islam. They hang Communist banners on mosques, sterilize Muslim women, and send Muslim men to camps where they learn to eat pork and drink alcohol. Nor has Russia had any trouble with Islam since the Second Chechen War. Russia then sank the Somalia pirates and bombed the Islamic State out of existence without breaking a sweat.
Fertility is collapsing in every Muslim country except Afghanistan. Woke is winning, turning girls into sluts and boys into slackers. The Taliban say “Help, we’re hungry!”, and Iran says, “Send your daughters to school first.”
States beat tribes every time, unless they’re liberal democracies, which are incapable of anything besides grooming children for a lifetime of anal sex.
Muslims actually do approve of sodomizing your children…
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Sterilization works. Banners put them underfoot of another entity. But Muslims are permitted to pork and wine under such circumstances so that does not change their mind from Islam, only makes them worse. Russia did right, but nobody else on the planet will step up and do the same… not even the USA could do in 25 years what Russia did in short time. Fertility… bullshit, they breed like cockroaches and are instructed by both Islam and garbage like CAIR to do so…. now if they ran chemtrails that could work, but again who is going to do that. Making them sluts doesn’t work, just ends up with more babymamas stealing more tax handouts and housing from you and more Muslims, not less Islam.
You don’t want a State or Democracy, you want a Nation that transcends both those scams.
Feminists are insane and need fucked.
Yes, but they are not packing Christian kids off to their schools and teaching sodomy to Christian kids when the kids are sent to school.
It’s a matter of priorities. We can’t do a thing about the barbarians inside our gates until we deal with the parasites and traitorous leaders who brought them in. If we can take back our civilization, it will be easy enough to handle the muzzies however we see fit. And if we can’t take back our civilization, well, in that case I’ll take Islam over progressivism every day of the week and twice on Fridays.
Quite so. The Muslim problem is a result of woke, and a distraction from the problem of woke. After we have dealt with woke, then Crusade time. Starting with Albania. The Muslim minority in Europe and America will be a minor detail.
The argument can be made (though it’s much less viable in the age of fast international travel that allows mass rapid migrations) that leftism while worse is a problem that self corrects though not without economic collapse or rivers of blood… whereas you can almost never ever get rid of Islam.
What do you mean you can almost never ever get rid of Islam? If it was impossible to get rid of Islam half of Europe wouldn’t have existed since a long time ago. Of course you can get rid of Islam, Islam is a deficient deal compared to Christianity 1.0, not hard to convert people to Christianity 1.0 and not hard for Christians 1.0 to destroy those who will not welcome Christianity 1.0. We know because that is the history of Europe after all.
The harvard empire itself is the number one sponsor of islamic terrorism around the globe.
Al Qaeda and its 101 splinter groups; Islamic State and its 101 splinter groups; over nine thousands ‘moderate’ muslim terrorist groups; all instigated by glow nigger cutouts.
Mobile islamic banditry simply can’t survive without the life support GAE provides in the first place; mobile islamic banditry is a fruit of GAE eminence.
Continuing with the pornography and whoredom discussions; first, one can find the Red Pill in the operatic repertoire.
Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart’s Don Giovanni, arguably the greatest opera ever written, is a classic example of the Red Pill in high art. It depicts Don Giovanni, a young, arrogant, and licentious nobleman, who abuses and outrages everyone he meets until he encounters something he cannot kill, destroy, dodge, or outwit, ending with his death. In one instance, Don Giovanni chastises the stereotypical beta male Masetto for letting his wife Zerlina leave his supervision.
Another great Mozart opera, Cosi fan tutte, or “All Women are Like That,†is a parody of the idea of “the good woman.†Two young officers, Guglielmo and Ferrando, wage a bet with Don Alfonso, that their women will be eternally faithful. They pretend to be called off to war, and return in disguise to attempt to seduce the other’s lover, with predictable (not to mention hilarious) results. Within two days, both women betray their fiancés, but Don Alfonso tells the men to forgive their women, for “all women are like that,†and both couples marry shortly after.
Don Giovanni features many suggestive moments, in particular “Vedrai Carino,†translation linked here.
Another piece which came to mind is Richard Strauss’ “An die Nacht,†which is a song of a wedding night, translation linked here.
In conclusion, portrayals of sex in fiction are not a problem, because what matters is not the subject of the opera, but the way in which it is portrayed. Don Giovanni contains adult themes and situations, but presents them in ways that advocate patriarchy and proper morals.
On patriarchy, it has been often said that female emancipation can observably be implemented and retracted quickly, but the reason as to why this happens was, in my opinion, not sufficiently explained to Pax:
From Pax Imperialis:
From Jim:
Female emancipation can be turned off quickly because the true evil of feminism is neither the whore nor the Prog enforcer, but the parents of daughters, who are nothing more than procurers. Referring to many below, it is often stated that virgins are in short supply. However, the short supply is entirely artificial, kept in place by the age of consent, which prevents men from marrying virgins. Female emancipation can be turned off quickly because by forcing women out of the workforce and out of Western education, parents will lose the incentive to prostitute their daughters and be forced to marry them off instead.
Simple, find the parents from all elite families with daughters under 15 years of age and tell them to have their daughters get engaged to the men of the new regime.
In our new regime most of the current elite families (at least their active and older members) are all going to be shot and their children dispossessed and maybe exiled to Northern Alaska where they will never be allowed to leave.
The parents are going to be shot, as well as the sons and the non-virgin daughters. The virgins we can keep. Give them a good fucking and they will imprint on their new masters. Never waste decent pussy if you can avoid it.
I dislike the idea of killing children unless necessary and believe that God or the higher forces of the universe will punish the willing shedders of innocent blood… but with the level of (righteous) rage now perhaps its inevitable.
I will say I’m not in favor of killing those of tender years but after that I wash my hands of it and will not try to argue against it beyond that. I would sterilize even the women of these evil families though… I think their bloodlines should die.
I regret the whole sordid topic (porn) that I opened up mostly on a tangent to a series of trends that I observed as a weak and pathetic attempt by GAE to rollback female emancipation, but let’s talk directly about female emancipation.
Jim makes the claim female emancipation was turned off for WW2 and wasn’t turned back on until 1963. During that period female workforce participation increased dramatically as well as their participation in higher education. It did not decline but it did continue the long term trend from 1890. Women in that period also increasingly got involved in low level political operations like unions. Many of the initial feminist leadership of the 70s were former union activists. This was in spite of government encouraging women to be stay at home mothers all throughout the post war 40s and 50s. This is all on top of legislative efforts at the state level to fully remove all vestigial remnants of coverture from the law books. An interesting case example is Eisenhower’s likely affair with Captain Kay Summersby, a fully emancipated woman. Clearly, female emancipation was not turned off in the upper echelons of Anglo-American power. I do not see female emancipation being reversed suddenly in that time period.
If you want to force women out of the work force, you’re going to need an army of men dispersed around the country enforcing that ban. I look at the state of Westernized men and see the same observation as Adam:
We don’t have a potential army anywhere large enough. We don’t even have a population that we could reliably draft an army from. We’d have to build an army from ground up and that takes time. In the meantime, coverture would be a practice largely isolated to the new elite that slowly reintroduces it to the native population as part of a recolonization program. Thinking we can simply turn female emancipation off is the same as thinking we will control a centralized governmental system that we’ve looted from out dead enemies after coup complete. We won’t because they’re too busy rotting out the entire command and control structure. If anything, there will be a small imperial core from which we will have to reconquer and recolonize the rest of the country. ‘Civilizing’ the Indians took over a century.
>the parents of daughters, who are nothing more than procurers.
What parents? 40% of all live births are to single mothers, by the time of coup complete, likely much higher. The father is completely out of the picture, and without a man to keep the mother in line, the mother might as well be out of the picture as well. We are not dealing with civilized people, but borderline near savages whose worst tendencies inclined towards outright barbarism are only mitigated by the welfare state and even that is falling apart. Again, going to need an army to deal with that and ultimately conqueror/colonize them. Where is our army? Are we going to mass draft every Amish and Mennonite man in the country?
>parents will lose the incentive to prostitute their daughters and be forced to marry them off instead.
Patriarchy only works because fathers marry off their daughters, if left to mothers, they prostitute their daughters, or worse turn them into trannies. Again, the fathers are out of the picture in a significant proportion of the population and more than half the “family household” population are run by whores. Is the proposal to shove 40% of the female population into the whore houses? Shot gun marry all of them to the suspected fathers? How does that even work when they have children from multiple men? Take their children from them to be raised by the state like what was done to the Indians? None of these solutions look immediately possible country wide post coup.
All I’m pointing out is that turning off female emancipation is likely a multi generational program that will coincide with other problems that are also multi generational. None of this is akin to flipping a switch, even the timeline Jim cites of 1930-1960 is between 1 and 1.5 generations. People are not blank slates and infinitely reprogrammable. GAE programming is pretty much engraved in probably 1/3 of the adult population and they are simply, permanently ‘lost.’ We’ll have to wait for them to die off as we take measure to ensure they don’t pass down their practices.
> During that period female workforce participation increased dramatically as well as their participation in higher education
Old type marriage was presented as normative and normal. Female workforce participation increased during the war for obvious reasons, but I find the claim that it increased postwar and prewar surprising and hard to believe. Give us some data.
I suspect your information comes from whig history, which always a lie. Get back to us with data from old sources, or at least data that treats separately what happened between Hitler’s election and mass mobilization for war separately, and treats separately what happened after demobalization to 1963.
What I suspect is that you have read this claim in whig history, which cites another whig history, which cites another whig history, which cites another whig history, which compares female workforce participation in 1939 with female workforce participation at the height of mobilization.
You made the claim. Show me the workforce participation data.
Perhaps, but it was also being presented at the same time as male authority was being dismantled in the education system (which eventually carried to the home), and career girls were portrayed as a mix between funny but harmless and outright virtuous, lastly, anti marriage college was being promoted.
On the topic of female workforce participation, there’s this link:
https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/LNS11300002#0
Wartime female labor participation rate peaked in 45 at 36.1%, there was an initial drop with demobilization, but afterwards a consistent tick up which by 55 surpased the previous high at 37%. Perhaps you don’t trust U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics or FRED. Fair enough, it’s enemy controlled bureaucracy, and with difficulty in making my case they are the only ones who have those statistics, but when viewed in conjunction of circumstantial evidence there’s good reason to believe the stats were roughly true.
Old films from the 40s-50s point to much skullduggery. The most important is ‘Are You Ready For Marriage? (1950)’
Maintaining Classroom Discipline (1947)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9TWBV_gKf8
In this instructional film, male authority in the classroom is dismantled. Enforcing discipline via punishment is removed from the tool set and corporal punishment became a thought crime. Using a cane on students isn’t even entertained as a possibility. A major departure from traditional standards. What started in the classroom ended up in the streets. Also, note the coed schooling.
Discovering Individual Differences (1953)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jP5jNIV-SKw
In this instructional film the classroom is fully feminized. Teaching used to be a male profession, the war changed that. Contrary to Whig history that claimed the 1950s were all about crushing the individual, and there being strict rules and discipline, it appears the immediate years of Post War America and the 1950s were a liberalizing period with the direct consequence being the disobedience of the 1960s.
Attitudes toward working women in the 1950s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BA3uryDJzI0
In this
2020s… I mean 1980s… uh 1960s?1950s film you can watch the same girl power feminist narrative about how they should have a life and career outside the home. To the extent that marriage is possibly, or likely sacrificed. That maybe career girl can even correct the boss. Sure, she isn’t being taken seriously, but she isn’t exactly discouraged either.Office Etiquette (1950)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLF1STKnBTU
Here’s a film promoting a gender integrated workplace trained in a gender integrated education system (and if you look hard enough, 1:22, it’s also racially integrated). It portrays a woman spending her most fertile years learning to do business as a virtuous path while henpecking men and portraying them as juvenile. See 9:55.
The Trouble With Women (1959)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLGoBbEg4YY
In this film about the problem of women in the workforce, they go over all the same problems men have today with women in the workforce. Not only are the women in the film causing problems, they are in charge of men. Take note of this being in the aluminum industry, at the time a vital strategic resource for the military aerospace industry. They ultimately laid the blame on the men not being accommodating enough rather than having women in the workforce. My favorite part:
Now that sounds awful similar to: “Look Pax, you’ve got a new supervisor, who happens to be a [insert diversity category], […].” Companies don’t produce and distribute these types of instructional films to the company supervisors unless there really are problems, and it also implies those problems started years before 1959 due to the bureaucratic lag time between recognizing the problem and distributing training material.
Last interesting film I want to bring up is:
Are You Ready For Marriage? (1950)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLLSj13gMTk
In it, there are many blue pills. ‘Wait to get married, in fact it’s ideal for women to wait until 25, but 30 and 35 are just as fine as well!’ (9:28) The real kicker is at the end (14:15) where the young couple are convinced to not get married or even get engaged in exchange for being sent to college together, and only to get engaged after they demonstrate being a good couple in school. That’s the exact same crap progressives preach in current day. This is anti-marriage and pro-whore. This is a good opportunity to segue into what was going on in colleges in the 1950s and earlier.
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In universities favored by elites in the period, Bard College is a prime example.
Bard College had close ties to FDR who strong armed industrialists in the 1920s to fund it. Later, the college provided shelter to Marxist European intellectuals during the 1930s, and by the 1950s, it was described as “”the little Red whorehouse on the Hudson” by Walter Winchell, a fairly influential journalist at the time, after his daughter got knocked up there. When you look at many other small universities the elites were sending their daughters in the 1930s to 1950s, you’ll see they too had similar reputations. i.e “The little Red whorehouse on the hill” of Bennington women’s College for instance which opened in 1932.
Or take the Margaret Hall’s Whitfield Papers, an account of her studies at Bryn Mawr in the 1950s. In 1951 she was engaged to a young man who believed higher education was meant to prepare women for marriage (does this sound familiar to the film ‘Are You Ready For Marriage?’). By 1953, during her second year, she wrote, paraphrasing here, that ‘life was so much more than the marriage relationship and that she had the right to cultivate her own garden.’ She soon broke off the engagement and proceeded to engage in the “dating culture.” I think you know what that means. Many other examples. They were clearly teaching female emancipation at these colleges. You can read all the lurid details of college female sexual exploits of the 40s-50s in this link.
https://archives.tricolib.brynmawr.edu/agents/corporate_entities/1418?&page=1
There were many “little Red whorehouses” in that period and enrollment remained strong indicating the elites did support the college environment. While the trend of women in American upper education started in the late 1800s, it really kicked off in the 1930s-1950s increasing from 16,642 Bachelor’s degrees given to women in the years 1919-1928, to 48,869 in the years 1929-1938, to 76,954 1939-1948. There was a relative percentile drop in relation to men post war due to the GI bill sending several hundred thousand men to university, but female higher education never declined in absolute numbers, hitting 103,217 in the 1950s. Data in the link:
https://nces.ed.gov/programs/digest/d12/tables/dt12_310.asp
Again, enemy controlled bureaucracy is providing these statistics, but they seem to check out considering the explosion of feminism in the 1960s lines up with primary accounts of college life, including what my grandfather told me, in the 1930s-50s. Digging through the history of several women’s colleges, many had FDR’s fingerprints all over them. Take Vassar for instance which had a long term relationship with the Roosevelt family into the 1960s.
https://vcencyclopedia.vassar.edu/board-of-trustees/franklin-delano-roosevelt/
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My grandfather was just commissioning from West Point in the early 50s and I remember his oral history. He showed and explained the falsehoods contained in a bunch of old films from the era full of blue pills. While he largely focused on the false narrative of the war, he did briefly touched upon the falsehoods on women and such. It was all progressive propaganda. It took me a long time to find some on YouTube so I could share. Many I can’t find. Perhaps I’m repeating 1940s and 1950s propaganda when I say:
>During that period female workforce participation increased dramatically as well as their participation in higher education
Yet it was very much the propaganda of the day, so it’s hard to see female emancipation being turned off at the top when it looks like it was being kept on. It certainly didn’t feel like that for my grandfather or for anyone he associated with in the upper middle class… allegedly. It appears progressives concentrated efforts of female emancipation into the college system, and then proceeded to funnel as many people as possible through that system. One of the realities that government statistics do not contain, is just how many young women at the time did in fact go to college or junior college. Many, according to my grandfather, went there just for a couple of years before snagging a guy and dropping out without a degree. Condoms did exist back then, and from what was described, it sounded like sexual chaos in much the same way the 60s to current day is sexual chaos, but a lot less people were going to college in the 40s-50s when compared to the 60s.
The progressives endlessly proclaimed the 50s to be this horrid era of female oppression and use it as a cudgel against traditional values today. I look back at the 50s and see much of the same crap as today, and so I have to wonder: is the narrative of traditional 50s all propaganda cooked up by progressives of the current day? What if the 50s was all just a lie? I know WW2 was a lie so it’s not much of a stretch to be suspicious of the 50s.
This graph begins in 1948, thus is irrelevant to the issue in dispute.
You need to compare the period before Hitler was elected, with the period after Hitler was elected.
The relevant issue is what happened in 1933, and what happened in 1944.
Which data seems strangely difficult to find. An absence that should make you curious.
Your data does not stand behind your claim.
Cthulhu always swims left. The claim in question is that he was able to effortlessly and suddenly jump one hell of a long way right on one issue when the need to win a war loomed on the horizon. That culture is downstream of power, that power can effortlessly turn the culture upside down, and not a dog will bark.
Cthulhu was able to move suddenly a long way right on women, because moving left on socialism. With socialism dismantled in 1944 in the US, and in 1949 in Europe, had to start moving left on the old issues.
To dispute the claim that Cthuluhu could switch off emancipation like a light, you need to compare data from before 1933 and after 1963 with data in 1933-1963 period. That Cthulhu was swimming left from 1948 onwards is unsurprising, uninteresting, and irrelevant.
1963 was culturally an abrupt return to 1933 before Hitler was elected. Boyish twiggy strikingly resembled what was being pushed on girls before Hitler was elected, then suddenly after Hitler elected, females got feminine role models. It was as if they brought out a play book written in 1932.
>thus is irrelevant to the issue in dispute.
You say 1963 was an abrupt return to 1933. I see all on the same gradual trend line starting as early as 1948 if purely based on female employment rates.
USG wasn’t sticking its bean counters into every single possible countable orifice until the 30s under FDR. They didn’t even count for employed women in the census data until 1890. There are some rough ball figures thrown out as a matter of curiosity in the Monthly Labor Review, but niche numbers like female policewomen in 1919 with figures countable on one hand gives little indication of overall picture.
Data simply doesn’t exist in a consistent yearly form prior to the 1940s. There is decennial census data that include women from 1890 to 1940, but not prior. Yearly data including women starts getting collected in 1940 and ends in 45 and is reported in the ‘Bureau of the Census, Current Population Reports, Series P-50, No. 2’ and points to around a 35% female civilian workforce or a 29% female labor force when including armed forces. Next data point is 48 using the relatively new ‘Current Population Survey (Household Survey)’ which has been used ever since. At no point prior to 1940 did female labor exceed 1940’s number.
Of course raw employment numbers is not the same as labor force participation rate, but when comparing male (85%) to female (32%) participation rates in 48, a 2.6:1 ratio, it roughly matches with the 2.4:1 ratio of men to women in 45. A very dirty and rough approximation. The data appears to show only a small rotation of women out of the work force after WW2, rather it actually got worse in just 3 years.
What was collected on a consistent basis was marriage and divorce rates since 1867. From which the ratio can be calculated.
https://robslink.com/SAS/democd80/us_divorce_and_marriage2.png
I see no return to pre-1930 female emancipation agenda. Divorce risk just steadily climbs up until it rockets up with no fault divorce. Since divorce is the ultimate indicator of failure to own, by all signs Cthulhu was swimming left of 1867 with no statistically significant pause. Apparent pauses are mirages created by marriage rate very temporarily dropping faster or dropping at the same rate as the divorce rate. Rest of the data here:
https://robslink.com/SAS/democd80/us_divorce_and_marriage.htm
Measure the culture. Fashion models, movies, movie stars, the plot of movies, the role of women depicted to women. Twiggy equals the last of the pre Hitler Gibson girls. Observe poster girls. To 1933 they were trumpeting the wife of the man who discovered radium, and a female pilot. In 1963, suddenly remembered them.
I say 1963 was a return to 1933. The only evidence that would address the issue is to get data that compares what happened in 1933 with what happened in 1963. If you cannot find that data, ask yourself why?
You are looking at the data that has been selectively made available. Why the selectivity?
It is easy to find the cultural data. Strangely difficult to find the employment data. You should ask yourself why.
Also difficult to find the pimp-your-daughters-out data.
The cultural data shows change overnight. Androgynous Gibson girls suddenly replaced by extremely feminine girls, and in 1963, extremely feminine girls suddenly replaced by twiggy. Career girls slutting it up replaced by obedient wives and daughters in the media in 1933, then reversed in 1963,
Gibson girls disappear overnight, Twiggy appears overnight.
The employment data does not show overnight change – employment is not recreated every year like movies and school curricula. But if you want to look at employment data, not going to mean a thing unless you you compare the change in employment data over the thirties with the change in employment data over the sixties. If you see gradual change in the employment data, you should then ask what is causing it. And to know what is causing it in the fifties and sixties, you need to be able to compare it with the thirties and forties. Which you, and I, are strangely unable to do.
If you start the clock at 1948, then today’s environment looks plausibly like a long term trend. If you start the clock at 1930, 1933 looks like 1963. Get some long term perspective.
You are completely out of contact with 1930 reality. Pre 1933 was, like today, collapse of marriage and the family, only with old laws on the books being completely ignored. It was suddenly, abruptly and radically reversed last time, it can be abruptly and radically reversed this time.
I am arguing from what happened when Hitler was elected. You are arguing from 1948. 1948 is irrelevant to what happened in 1933. Your evidence is irrelevant. Your arguments are irrelevant and unresponsive. You have to look at what happened to sex, marriage, family, and reproduction in immediate and direct response to military intent and military actions, and you are refusing to look at the relevant evidence, and presenting an immense wall of text full of completely irrelevant and unrelated evidence.
Evidence against my claim has to cover the period for which I made my claim – that cultural changes occurred abruptly in response to political events. 1963 is arguably an arbitrary date, for there were no external events, the elite was slowly coming to change its mind about what the culture would be. 1933 is not.
We have the media suddenly start presenting marriage to women as as normal, desirable, and important to lock down a good man, as a difficult and status worth accomplishment for women, having presented wives as having a duty of obedience in the media, and only wicked women disobey, or, like Lucy in “I love Lucy”, foolish wives disobeying in little matters foolishly,
Having done that, we just wait a year or two for it to soak in and making de-emancipation legal will go through without a murmer from the masses. The authorities in Australia at the turn of the nineteenth century took ten minutes for the new rules to soak in. Women automatically, easily, quickly and quietly align with power, though they are apt to give it a shit test first.
You are starting your trend in 1948.
Start in 1930.
My claim was a radical reversal in America after Hitler’s election, and this proved that the culture can be turned upside down overnight.
Evidence about what happened starting in 1948 is an unresponsive irrelevant distraction. Cthulhu swims left slowly.
And the marriage/divorce I posted data that goes from 1867 to 2012? You’d think a radical reversal in female emancipation would show up in divorce risk. It did not.
It did. Divorce rates rose to 1933, fell thereafter. And then they started rising again, which fits your model of a long term trend, rather than a sudden event, though obviously something happened in 1933.
You presuppose that divorce is a risk for men, and a privilege for women. Which has not always been the case, and because so much hypocrisy around divorce, it is difficult to discern what was actually the case back then from a distance in time. The effective in practice rules seldom reflect the formal rules, and changes in the informal rules are piously denied and take a while for people to discover.
Stability and security of husbands is indicated by fertility trends. Which abruptly reverse in 1933.
Something fundamental happened to the family in 1933, and there was an overnight change in the depiction of women in the media. Suddenly everyone forgot about Amelia Earheart, and images of women suddenly become very female rather than the androgynous and liberated Gibson career girl. And something important happened to the family.
Yes, Havard was working on a return to 1933 for quite a while.
But the return to 1933 in the broader culture happened abruptly in 1963.
And none of the data you are looking at of gradual change in the period leading to and following 1963 is meaningful unless you compare it with similar data following 1933. Employment data does support gradual change. Cultural data shows abrupt change.
And if looking at indicators that by their nature do not change over night, you need to figure out what is causing them. And to look at that, need to compare employment indicators for 1930s, with similar indicators fifties to sixties. Which is oddly difficult to do.
Female emancipation was halted for World War Two only as a half-measure, meaning the culture of first-wave feminism was suspended while the structural changes were kept. This is why the birth rate in the United States only rose to 3.2 children/woman, not 5-7 children/woman one would find in Europe before the First World War. When my grandmother went to [X] in the early 1960s, where she met my grandfather, she was expected to obtain her “Mrs.†degree and remain a virgin until marriage. This was not because my grandparents or any of their friends were religious, this was “what was expected.†Also, it is important to recognize America as a vast and diverse country even before Hart-Celler, so what went on for elite post-Christian East Coast Anglo protestants was different from what went on for elites in other areas.
It will be necessary for me to recruit, train and deploy an elite secret police division to kill enemies of the state, but heavy-handed overreach will simply not be necessary.
What will happen, and why reversing female emancipation will be relatively instant, is that the emancipated whore will lose all ability to eat. Her bank accounts will be confiscated, she will be forced out of work, and she will lose all her rights. Once the emancipated whore can be beaten/shot/kidnapped without any recourse, she will either find a husband, join a monastery, flee to the ghetto pimp, be married by abduction, or simply starve to death. The secret police will simply kill cops, judges, or other degenerates who oppose these measures by trying to provide security, income, or social support to emancipated whores.
When the HR woman loses her job and all her rights, when men no longer have to deal with whores in the workplace, I expect average testosterone levels to rise by a third within a year.
The Socialists made up less than one percent of the vote in the Duma, yet managed to win the Russian Civil War. Sure, the average nu-male conscript will not be as formidable as the average Russian from 1917, but, with enough training and discipline, will be enough for his nu-male enemy. Also, it is important to understand that brutality does not correlate with manliness, so the beaten man today may seem unimpressive, but with the right training and guidance, can be turned into an effective killer.
The great thing about it is, that it is not up for me to decide.
If we are referring to emancipated whores with offspring, they will either find a place in the new order or starve. Of course, we will give them an option to sell their bastards into slavery, which will make their task of finding a husband easier, but the 20th/21st century single mother is an abomination which must be destroyed by any means necessary.
Patriarchy works because carrot, fathers want to serve the state religion, and stick, because fathers want their daughters to be as high status as possible, and being a whore is being low status gutter trash. Patriarchy works because the single mother with her bastard demonspawn will starve as soon as she hits the wall, while the honorable widow is provided charity through her church. The human being is a fallen, corrupt, and sinful creature, but with the right order, violence, and hierarchy, can become closer to God. God commands that those who do evil be destroyed, and that is what we need to make happen.
At the fundamental level, patriarchy works because men are naturally stronger than women, which is why feminism requires the Progressive police state. Once women who do not comply with patriarchy are no longer protected by the Progressive police state, patriarchy will arise automatically.
” Is the proposal to shove 40% of the female population into the whore houses”
This would be sort of my proposal, that all women must either be married or be sent to a whore house within a year and they only get out of the whore house if someone marries them. If they are older and unfuckable they can work as a cleaning lady or something but no cushy office job.
One year is too lenient, one month is good enough. It needs to be short because we want an immediate implementation of patriarchy. 99% of women only need a week, but it may take a fortnight or so for the news to reach everyone, so one month is just fine.
Traditional women’s jobs such as that of cleaning lady will only be given to married women or widows of the lower castes. If the emancipated whore is older and past the wall she can work as slave labor or starve. Wayward women simply cannot be allowed to work outside the ghetto or slave labor camp, because wayward women are untouchables who cannot be allowed to breath the same air as we do, for if we do so will our wives and daughters.
A month would probably be enough, but if I were in firm control of entertainment, I’d probably go for a 3 month period. Basically on women’s entertainment I’d promote a fear of being ‘left on the shelf’ and a fear that if she doesn’t act fast, that ‘the better ones will be all picked over by then’. There’s no need to actually SAY this, just depict it in your mass entertainments.
Her incentive will be her waking up to a frozen bank account, seized assets, and a missing paycheck. She will not fear being left on the shelf because there will not be a shelf when all is done.
The saints tell us that the Kingdom of Heaven is taken by violence. Christ tells us that he became incarnate not to bring peace, but a sword. The word of God was spread first by the blood of the martyrs spilled by the Pagans and then the blood of the warrior saints fighting victorious over the Pagans.
Patriarchy will likewise be imposed by violence on emancipated whores and their enablers. One month is all she needs, all she deserves, and should she fail to comply, she shall receive her just reward.
I think this is the only sensible approach, everything else that is being said about the matter is highly delusional and questionable.
I’m rather skeptical of tall claims about magical social engineering in which societies are magically turned by magic means into magic utopias that only live inside the head of the social engineer. Every time people play God they fail, any form of socialism fails because central economy can never work, I can’t imagine why the central social engineer will fare any better.
When Jim mentions the disappearance of feminism, the disappearance was obtained with a slight legal touch (perhaps more informal than formal even) and entertainment, nothing about men with shotguns anywhere about it. The slight legal touch and the movies seem to work very well, just like little regulation on the market economy works best.
The problem with feral women is that it’s illegal to do anything about it and they are actively empowered to be feral. The government has an entire power structure pointing a gun at you, stealing your resources, using them to empower the feral women and preventing you from recourse. Niggers, gypsies and other undesirables are the same deal. We need to annihilate every demon (they are not human) that points guns at honest men and empowers wickedness and all will fall in place.
What we truly need is the option to organize and be our own faction and defend our own interests.
In order to stop 1000 people from crossing a border, you do not need to kill 1000 people; you need to kill the first person that crosses, and the other 999 get the message.
The border is a long distance and America is huge in square miles. If a person is killed crossing into Texas, but not in California, they simply will cross into California. A persistent border enforcement is required which means a persistent presence, therefore a dispersed army. It need not be large, or kill many, but it needs to be felt.
Likewise the rest of the country would need at least some garrison force to remind people, that yes, they are indeed under the rule of a monarch. Maybe in 10 years when everyone gets the message, they stop testing boundaries and the force and be majorly reduced, but my point is, you need an army at least for stabilization. Even then, I would prefer not to disband the army until the last generation who remembers progressive rule is dead, ideally mostly from old age.
Hey Jim, I hear tell a nuclear reactor has been built and come online in Georgia (the one in the US) for the first time in like 30 years and a second is supposed to come online next year (same general area). How did this happen? Is this just a little leftover Trump legacy or does it represent some sort of realignment? Or just less effective lawfare against nuclear than usual?
AP article on it:
https://archive.ph/agqUc
Have not looked into. But Musk rejuvenated rockets after near five decades of stagnation and decline.
To my surprise, the reactor works, but it took longer and cost more: “but the cost of the Georgia power plant could discourage utilities from pursuing nuclear power as a path to a carbon-free future.”
The article asserts it’s 7 years late, 17 billion over budget. Here’s a normie scientist, an artistic representation of the plant itself in a sense as he’s not a product of the current era rather an echo of a bygone era, explaining the logic of Nuclear Power Plants:
https://youtu.be/cbeJIwF1pVY
Trump has a massive impact on many things, but I think it’s really reductive to boil it down to him magically making it happen, purely because so much of the process occured well before his presidency. Still, easy to make the argument that only because of Trump did it finally come online, but a president Hillary *might* have kept it alive though as little more than a radioactive money pit.
SLS is in the same category, as is James Webb Space Telescope, I bet a fair few others, and all are echos of a forever receding era.
If you are building the nuclear reactor that you built several decades ago, after building a similar reactor several times before, should be getting cheaper and cheaper, and you should be building it faster and faster. Instead, taking longer and longer, and costing more and more.
I was surprised to hear we can still build nuclear reactors. But slower and slower, for more and more money.
[*I do not believe you. Pics or it did not happen*]
If anything like that ever happened anywhere ever, the media would never stop reminding us about it.
No, Bitcoin is not going to have an “enormous move” up.
In fact, Bitcoin will experience a drastic drop from here, from which
it will never recover, let alone even a fraction of its all time high.
Cryptocurrency meme is fading out fast, urges are being spent
elsewhere, moods of billions and prices are manipulated down by
AI as living costs are being jacked up and extracted by same actors,
Banks and Govts are competing with backed Fiat and CBDC against
billions of sheeple, there will be no more mass new money coming in to move it.
And Bitcoin has scale and other problems that no one trusts to be overcome.
It’s actual hard-to-kill price will rest right down around the price of Gold.
And if crypto meme ever rebirths, Bitcoin will be superceded by then.
My advice would be to sell Bitcoin now while the price is still high.
This advice coming from someone who was saying the exact same thing when bitcoin was thirty dollars instead of thirty thousand, for everyone who says this has always been saying it. Nothing you say is new since bitcoin was thirty dollars.
Lightning alleviates the scaling problem. There have been millions of real transactions on the lightning layer, the trend in number of transactions remains exponential, there will be billions, while the number of transactions on the base layer remains capped by intolerable scaling problems. The exponential trend in number of transactions foreshadows an exponential rise in the bitcoin price.
We now have a solution to the scaling and privacy problem. And when a currency that implements the new technology competes with bitcoin – well I hope that bitcoin will integrate the new technology, which is entirely doable, for recursive snarks make side chaining safe and comparatively easy. But if it does not, or is slow to do so, then will be time to jump ship to a new and better crypto currency, which as yet only exists as a gleam in the eye of developers.
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The proposition that Blockstream owns bitcoin or has much influence over bitcoin development is silly. The proposition that it is managing an evil government plot to rip off bitcoin investors in a pump and dump scheme is too idiotic to be addressed.
The proposition that shills are promoting bitcoin is obviously silly. There is an army of shills promoting scamcoins, among them Blockstream’s scamcoin, and an army of government and scamcoin shills condemning bitcoin for all the faults of the fiat dollar and the scamcoins that they promote.
Then why don’t you Your High Excellence In Jimly Idiocy tell us all who AXA Ventures is and who they control and employ. And tell us what actually happened to Gavin and some OG’s who got ousted from Bitcoin. Tell us how real development to continue OG Bitcoin then stopped. Tell us how Bitcoin then stayed neutered. Tell us who actually owns Lightning Labs. Tell us who is on the boards of directors of all these corporations and where they came from.
ps: You don’t have to have hard “influence” to kill something, you just have to succeed at the psyop… claiming it’s your project and that you’re “doing somethings” regardless if that “somethings” actually does nothing, and effectively sit on the project doing nothing actual to address its fatal flaws.
Why don’t you tell us what AXA ventures and OG Ventures has to do with bitcoin.
Gavin Andresen was ousted from the project for claiming that Craig Wright was Nakamoto and for creating the fork Bitcoin Cash. Craig Wright was not Nakamoto, and you are going to get booted from any project when you produce a competing fork. Bitcoin cash was a bad idea, that is being promoted by shills. So looks to me that he was booted for good reason. Lightning and segregated witness are better solutions. Craig Wright is a serial scammer, and has been an enemy of the bitcoin community as soon as Bitcoin proved to be a success, so Gavin was booted for disloyalty, hostility, and being palsy with a hostile scammer. Promoting Craig Wright as Nakomoto is part of a scam.
I know who Nakomoto was and what his political and social goals were, and Craig Wright, who probably does not know who Nakomoto was, never having had connection to those circles, has been an enemy of those political and social goals from the beginning. Hence Gavin got the boot for backing Craig Wright’s scam.
You don’t know who Satoshi was, let alone able to prove it.
You don’t know his sociopolitical goals beyond his archive.
Craig Wright is a Jackass Liar Fraud.
May God have Mercy on the lemmings that follow him.
Fuck Craig Wright.
You know who knows who Satoshi is… the NSA, the CIA, the FBI, GCHQ, and also probably the owner of his email services.
Bitcoin is being promoted by shills.
The people who promote bitcoin can usually pass the usual shill tests.
The people who attack bitcoin fail them. You just failed them, again. So you guys call everyone a shill, just as the feds call everyone a fed.
Satoshi owned his own email service, and I think it improbable that the CIA, the FBI, and company have any idea who he was.
There are a lot of very grave problems with Bitcoin, which I have raised from the beginning. And very grave problems with Lightning. But none of the shills, nor their scriptwriters, have the foggiest idea what they are. Hence raise irrelevancies and speak in non sequiturs. Not only do you do not understand Bitcoin, you are not allowed to understand the reasoning and motivation behind it.
You are not allowed to notice the very real problems with Bitcoin, because you are not allowed to notice the problems it was created to solve. Which is the tell that reveals you as a shill, opposing Bitcoin because your boss writes your paycheck.
Wait, what? You know who Nakamoto was? Like IRL?
Are you him?
Why was cryptocurrency / Bitcoin created?
What purpose was it meant to serve?
To transact over the internet without the state getting in the middle and sodomizing your transactions.
Here is the world’s biggest anti-Crypto Cunt Queen surrounded by three more of the biggest Warmongers the world has ever seen…
https://cms.zerohedge.com/s3/files/inline-images/senblandz.jpg
They love their printing press because it funds their wars and lines their filthy corrupt pockets.
They hate Crypto because it defunds them and lets you save your work from their robbery extortion and inflation.
Bitcoin is a joke.
It is now 14 year old.
There is not a single physical merchant within 150km that accept any BTC (incl LN).
There is no national merchant, online or physical, of any significant national name recognition that accept any BTC here.
This is not a question of waiting or laws, everything with BTC is still 100% legal to do here, there actually were merchants, all of them are gone now.
Nobody accept any BTC for anything.
Bitcoin says it is “P2P Electronic Cash”.
No!, BTC is a failure.
Satoshi created bitcoin to enable transactions over the internet without an intermediary having power over the parties. That is happening
Face fo face merchants are downstream of that, there are a couple of merchants in the nearest town to me who accept lightning. And it is not a very big town. I find it very hard to believe that there are no merchants within 150 kilometers of you that accept lightning.
But the primary use of bitcoin is not for face to face transactions, and that was not Satoshi’s target, but for international transactions done over the internet, not physical transactions. And I find it completely indispensable for international transactions, particularly since SWIFT started self destructing.
Saying “no national merchants” is true. But, like the legacy media, they are going to be left behind.
Big merchants prefer soft money, for the reasons that Tim May explained. Because they have power and you don’t. So they are going to be the last to reluctantly accept bitcoin. When the dollar stops being useful to anyone for anything.
If no thermidor, the US government is going broke soon. Bitcoin is a bet on fiat money going away. It always does go away eventually.
[*deleted because not allowing people who are not regulars to comment on crypto currency without demonstrating understanding of it*]
All of the problems with bitcoin that you raise are bitcoin hitting scaling limits hard.
So tell us, why a scaling problem, and how can a crypto currency solve that problem? As with all shill tests, this is an open book exam. You can just copy and paste the answer. Albeit this time I am testing for competence, not thought crime. Do you understand the problems you just rattled off, or are you an idiot reciting a script composed by idiots for idiots?
Bitcoin is under such years of malaise and being weak in fights against regulators banks fiats stables etc simply because it DOES NOT have in its current form the functionality of CASH… it does not have the in-actual-USAGE POWER to win.
PERIOD end of story.
When Satoshi died, and after AXA Blockstream and now LN and LQ all took over Bitcoin BTC development, and when the Libertarian AnCap Austrian OG’s all got rich and began ass-sitting instead of public advocacy circuit, Bitcoin ceased its OG CASH development path.
BTC has been reduced to HODL HODL HODL bullshit mindprogramming, and it sucks because even actual physical GOLD has more than 7TPS in the world still today.
Big online merchants used to accept BTC, now NONE of those big sites accept ANY crypto at all. That’s NOT from regulation, it’s still FULLY LEGAL for places to accept whatever they want. 7tps bit everyone in the ass.
People want a SOUND AUSTRIAN coin that functions AS CASH. CASH means PRIVATE as in fully privacy enabled. CASH means direct bidirectional P2P over the protocol. CASH means having your full purchase power available to use and redirect at any time without fee and wihout locking it up in “channels”.
There are only roughly 10 coins today that can serve as CASH.
XMR ZEC BCH are a few of them.
But they have some other issues, mostly unbounded growth of physical storage, that recognition will soon demand a new generation competition of coins to replace them all.
99.99% of coins are nothing more than corrupt power-feeding Fiat Stables CBDCs CorpCOINs InflatoCOINs, or boring untransactably useless Gold.
Please fuck all that and do some real cash coins next.
Your freedom depends on it.
Cashlike properties, instant payment, is a hard problem. Lightning works, but the requirement to tie up money in channels means the channels have limited capacity. Large payments over lightning are apt to fail. Small lightning payments, no problem. There is a solution, based on snarks, which has the convenient advantage of sharding the chain, but I have not written it up.
It requires a reputation system, so that a third party can prove that all payments it has signed as going to go through always have gone through. This is tricky, since the third party might issue a million shill payments to itself, all of which go through, so we have to page rank the recipients, which is tricky to do while preserving privacy. However, some recipients will be interested in building their own reputation for delivering goods that have been paid for, so if we have an ebay/amazon reputation system for deliverers of goods and services, the third party can prove that some portion of its payments were used in transactions with entities of high page rank. So if it has guaranteed a large number of payments, and some of those payments were received by entities of high page rank, then the payment is instant, in the sense the recipient knows it will go through.
The third party can generate a recursive snark that verifies its reputation, without trashing privacy, or requiring other people to trash their privacy and without bloating the reliable broadcast channel with information no one cares about, because an ebay/amazon style feedback will have the hash of the payment, and the third party knows which hashes have preimages that contain its signature promising that the payment will go through. So an instant payment is accomplished by providing a snark proving that this payment is guaranteed by a third party that has never defaulted on any payment, and is used to make payments to entities of high page rank. But this requires a decentralized page rank system, whereby anyone can prove page rank. Which is another hard problem.
Although page ranking is an algorithm, all the algorithm does is partition the graph into groups, and compute how close an entity is to a given group. And it is easy to create a shill group, hard to connect it to legitimate group. But a human has to identify the legitimate group. You have to start with some known good entities, and the algorithm will partition the graph – and all, or nearly all the known good entities will be in one group, and that is the legitimate group. So the root of the reputation system is still a human authority. But once the legitimate group is identified, the algorithm should be able to run by itself. Further human intervention should not be needed. So it is doable – but only doable after you have an ecology of legitimate sellers with reputations. Initially it requires a rather central human authority managing the reputation system.
CASH is king.
I’m design agnostic.
Yes, I think ZK protocols may well play a huge role in what succeeds as a cash.
ZK protocols, or something else, may well also end up killing off the
legacy idea that unbounded storing everything is needed… checkpointing,
roll forward database, whatever.
All I suggest is a total survey revisitment and any innovation needed.
Get “blockchain”, “bitcoin”, regulators, foundations, etc,
get all that crap unstuck everything out of people’s heads.
Make CASH.
CASH CASH CASH CASH CASH
TPS, privacy, austrian, unstorage.
That’s all that matters in the end.
(BTC is today only austrian)
Maybe that will look like something already out there, maybe BTC is the best anyone can do, maybe not.
But unless it’s CASH, it’s guaranteed it will amount to nothing to all the worlds people in 20 years.
They’ll just fall back to using fiat, cbdc, etc… CASH is the only advantage that will move them off that abuse.
I’d wager 1 BTC out on stake for 20y on that premise, up against todays nominal BTC price newly invested into the leading emergent CASH competitor as observed on the open market at a point 10y from now. IOW, I doubt that coin will be what we know as “BTC” and its layers today. (BTC leaving itself behind by turnstyling itself and its existing UTXO keys into a new CASH protocol is not accepted for this wager… the argument is that todays existing as shillvertised BTC+whatever protocols are not and will not ever be a P2P Electronic CASH for the worlds people.)
“Instant payment”
Get that out of peoples mind too.
People have taken shitloads horrible abuses to get CASH in form of fiat.
Give them digital CASH that does not abuse, and they’d be willing
to trade fiat’s abuse into waiting a bit for some or all tx if need be.
Finality on the screen is more important. No clawbacks, no rbf, go no go.
I encourage everyone to continue writing and publishing and competing new protocols… simply CASH.
Make Cash Great Again.
It will be fun 🙂
Only recursive snarks can provide an alternative to an ever growing public broadcast channel (by keeping most of the blockchain private to the participants in the transaction)
Instant payment requires that one party can generate a recursive stark that gives the recipient high assurance that the payment will go through. Which requires a reputation system, a social tech, integrated with cryptographic tech, and a third party with reputation to provide such a guarantee.
[*deleted for using tech terms without understanding*]
So if Lightning-LN was so good then the honest BTC shills
would bolt LN on top of those coins to make them even
“better”, you’d see LN everywhere… obviously LN isn’t really
that hot of a “solution” as what the LN people are claiming,
else lots of coins out there would be using LN. They’re not.
These BTC+LN shills don’t pass the smell test.
[*deleted for being wildly unaware of what is happening in crypto currency*]
The reason other crypto currencies don’t have a lightning network is the same as the reason they don’t have BTCpay. Because bitcoin is the only crypto currency that is actually used as money. If you pay a merchant with Monero, he is using a payments service like bitpay that sells the Monero and pays the merchant in dollars. If you pay a merchant in bitcoin, chances are he has a peer on the blockchain running bitcoin core in the basement, is running sparrow wallet on his laptop, and is putting the payment in his bitcoin wallet.
And lightning is unambiguously the most convenient way to pay someone who is actually receiving the payment into his own crypto currency wallet. I am using lightning. Works for me. If another network tried to create a lightning network, it would face the cold start problem No one would want to use their lightning, because no one else is using their lightning. A lightning gateway is not much use without lots of other lightning gateways. Metcalf’s law.
If you are not familiar with Metcalf’s law and the cold start problem, I am going to suppress your reply.
Here’s another macro concept the BTC Maxi’s refuse to admit…
At today’s fixed in stone max txrate of about 7tps,
which is due to their fixed in stone blocksize,
(combined with the fact that no coin can cut below the
min txsize needed for at least 128-bit strength keying),
all of which they’ve all sworn to never change
lest they face as utter lying shilling hypocrites…
That’s 604800 tpd max on their BTC L1,
the planet’s most important layer that people want to use,
Now given coinbase block rewards will effectively go to zero,
that means fee block rewards are the only thing preventing
monied mining attacks… censorship, disruption, 51%, etc.
$10B/yr Global Govt Corp Competitor assault / 365d / 604800 tpd = $45/tx
There will be many many millions more than 605k users per day
for which the “channel” transaction modality of LN simply cannot
fulfill their business, legal, or personal transaction type needs.
Nor will any of them be willing to pay 10% on $450 or 4% on $1125,
they’ll prefer to keep fucking themselves with their CBDC card.
USA Govt alone blows $10B per day on useless shit,
$10B/yr globally is nothing for cooperating vested legacy interests,
$100B/yr would just make their evil smiles grow wider…. $450/tx.
Therefore BTC is simultaneously both successfully disrupted,
and it rejects and prices out 85+% of the worlds population with fees.
A real P2P Electronic Cash is supposed to support humanity, not reject it.
BTC is fake, and dead walking.
So clean your slates, get back to the drawing boards.
Yes, if all goes according to plan, when I finally get my currency up and running, it will be unable to compete with bitcoin due to the cold start problem and Metcalf’s law, until the government gets control of bitcoin. At which point everyone who understands crypto currency moves into my currency. However, I am far from being the only man with a plan, and most of these plans are running under very deep cover, so there is a high likelihood that someone will beat me to it or just do a a better job. So far, however, none of the existing altcoins do it right, nor do any of the announced projects plan to do it right.
The algorithms for doing it right have been found, though perhaps I have an edge with my unannounced plan for consensus. But since I am way behind, would be happy if someone beats me to it, for fear I might be late, so I will probably announce that consensus algorithm shortly.
Every system is subject to the cold start bootstrap “problem”,
especially “distributed” “fair” “p2p” systems that aren’t
backed by corrupt profiteering power rent seekers and centrals.
It’s not really a “problem” though, since
[*deleted for failure to understand the cold start problem*]
The cold start problem has been discussed at enormous length elsewhere, and I am not going to discuss it again.
If you’re suggesting that ETFs and Banksters and Regulators are roping up BTC via a massive global governance get registered custody convenience lockup for censorship permissioned etc psyop… that is known.
Just look at all the corrupt Maxi’s that are “up to” cheerleading those ETFs, and [*deleted*]
I see a whole lot of maxis cheerleading for EFTs, but I don’t see any maxis begging for regulation of bitcoin. If you think you see it, you probably failed to comprehend what they were talking about. Give me a link that supports your claims.
[*deleted because a criticism of bitcoin based on incomprehension of what bitcoin is up to*]
I am not going to explain what is in fact going on, because lots of people are explaining what is going on, and rather fewer are comprehending the explanations, which are difficult to comprehend.
Crypto currency is a hard project. Cypherpunks were working on it long before Satoshi, and the descendants of cypherpunks (the original cypherpunk mailing list was already overrun by shills at the time of Satoshi) have continued to work on it long after Satoshi.
What makes a crypto currency work is difficult for midwits, or even ordinary smarties, to understand, so, in addition to the fog and squid ink issued by enemy shills, there is a whole lot of fog and squid ink issued by well intentioned midwits.
And I want to be clear
as an agnostic who only cares about discovering the best solutions to a CASH that we can with current days bleeding edge novel research…
I’m not bashing you or your design, contrare, I FULLY support you, and everyone else, in competing entries upon the field for Cash. I WANT you to get your systems out there to see what floats.
I’m critiquing the BTC thing and people hard because I do not
see it meeting Cash, and they are in fact now not only hiding
their flaws and incapabilities as Cash, but are now also holding
back competition by political lawfare and psyop means, which
is evil, and is not what crypto was supposed to be.
Yes, but your criticism got into technicalities that very few people understand, and you are not one of those people. So I suppressed the comment to maintain the quality of discussion.
[deleted for not displaying sufficient knowledge of the hard problems that need to be solved to implement a crypto currency that solves the defects of existing crypto currencies]
I welcome informed discussion of the problem that Satoshi addressed. Unfortunately, there is not much of it.
Your criticism of cryptocurrency opcodes is correct. But you don’t understand why they are a problem, let alone why they are currently needed and what the alternatives could be.
[deleted for being utterly unaware of the enormous amount of brilliant work that has been going on trying to find solutions to these very hard problems, before and since Satoshi.
Good thread mates.
Should be noted that people are lazy and didn’t want
to do the real work needed to earn the real money of
the time… gold. So they accepted fake money and the
abuse that came with it.
Which ultimately led to what we have today, a bunch of
lazy bleating socialist couchsurfing handout welfare faggots
stealing from other people.
Real hard crypto cash fixes a whole lot of today’s faggotry by
making people man up, and making socialist politicans eat a dick.
Lol. But it’s true.
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If you don’t want your comments deleted and a snarky reply unkindly explaining the reasons for deletion, just pass the shill test against shills under deep state supervision
Robert Kennedy Jr, Vivek Ramaswami, and Javier Milei are the only
current Presidential candidates who emit pro Cryptocurrency sounds.
Kennedy goes openly deep on Bitcoin as he does on many things.
Vivek has been on the crypto youtube circuit, so he is grasping
crypto reality, but is still shy to speak broadly in public for it.
Milei openly supports Bitcoin from a Libertarian perspective.
Trump is not a friend of Bitcoin and it’s unlikely that he will flip to support it.
Nor are any other current Presidential candidates anywhere in the world
supporting crypto afaik.
Kennedy on Bitcoin…
https://twitter.com/BitcoinMagazine/status/1709635351789162602
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DcnjyhMPY7c
Ramaswami on Bitcoin…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Bc2jRlBunQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-v0cit3wa-Cw
Milei on Bitcoin…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfW_ej2bMdI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7p9KwANXLQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ncr2Dav7k0k
Tulsi on Bitcoin…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPLozqk3Mgw
Not seeing any difference on Vivek, Milie, and Trump on bitcoin.
When Milei is asked about bitcoin, he starts talking the theory of money, which is important, interesting and relevant, but is a deflection and evasion.
The question, after all, is about power and money. Who gets the power and the money? He is running away from the question. And so is Vivek. That is one of the many indicators that Vivek and Milei are not who they say they are. They emit pro crypto currency sounds, but I hear what is not said and read what is not written. They are evading like shills.
Trump is who he says he is. Unfortunately what he says he is a deal maker, a very very good deal maker, and it is now Caesar time, for no deal can be made.
Milei is on video somewhere saying to buy bitcoin. None of the others you mention seem to have said that yet. Though it is an un-nuanced statement for anyone to say. Vivek seems more reform than revol. Milei is more revol than his countries current form. Trump is going to be pretty idle on his tired old throne. Kennedy could become interesting, at least for crypto.
I’ve no idea if a nominally “pro bitcoiner” will win.
Keep stacking your favorite units and check back in 9 months to see what kind of shit is going down 🙂
Is he now? That would be interesting, for every time I hear him speak, I hear him not saying what a shill and an entryist is unable to say. Can you find that video? Or did he, shill style, say something that would sound to a hodler something vaguely like “buy bitcoin”, while carefully and strangely evading saying “buy bitcoin” to anyone else?
Well ok, what do you guys think?
What are the top-3 best long term Monetary cryptocurrencies we could buy right now today?
Excluding Bitcoin-BTC, because that one’s already well discussed.
Best Monetary meaning:
– Sound-money austrian-economics fixed-known-emission hard-cap non-inflating, curve falling below 1% or less in well under 10 years.
– Actually useable, from day one at scale as the network grows, through perpetuity ie 100 years from now, as P2P Electronic Cash, for at least 100s of Millions up to about 1-2 Billion users a couple times a week.
– Privacy-enabled in-protocol, preferably by default, or transferable by users between private and non-private addresses.
– No games… fair launch, no premine, no dev or founder or foundation award or tax.
– No “features”, no capabilities dao governance stables vm’s smart contracts etc… just money, that’s it.
– Preferably, if there are some proofs, ones that look more like hard of-work, than look like soft of-stake.
– If any mining, preferably volunteer based on mutual interest in preserving value, if not, then mining based on fees (and declining subsidy) is still ok.
– Preferably protocol committed and baked-in, a minimalist coin, really no more than bugfixes for the client.
And then,
What are the top-3 best Monetary cryptos that are not yet buyable but are projects in active development… ie with whitepapers and even some initial coders forming or working.
Curious to see what potential candidates are thought to exist out there these days 15 years later 🙂
I’ve read some debate on this and you guys can chime in.
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Thanks for listening, at least.
Not listening to people who can neither speak thought crimes, nor notice that anyone else is speaking thought crimes. If you want your stuff to be seen and addressed on this blog, commit a thoughtcrime, or respond to other people’s thought crimes in a way that reveals what those thought crimes are. Why should anyone listen to you, when you will not listen to us?
I have spoken about the problems with Bitcoin many times.
The very real problems you point out with Bitcoin were immediately pointed out when first Satoshi proposed Bitcoin, Satoshi was aware of them, and many very clever people have been seeking solutions ever since.
But Bitcoin as it is, warts and all, can, and probably will, replace the US dollar as the currency of international transactions. Satoshi figured that warts and all, it would suffice, and it is looking as if he was correct.
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I am not going to discuss cryptocurrency with someone who is strangely unable to commit thought crimes, nor notice nor respond to other people’s thought crimmes.
One thought crime particularly relevant to the issue of crypto is the collapse of trust and trustworthiness among our elite, which is making international transactions in fiat particularly difficult, and, as we saw in the gamestop shenanigans, adversely affecting many other fiat based transactions.
So if you want a comment on crypto currency to get through, you could, as part of that comment, discuss the thought crimes in my paper on sox accounting.
You can argue against what I said, you can argue that Sox forces accountants to be honest, rather than forcing them to be dishonest, and that it prevents crimes like Enron, rather than enabling crimes like the Great Minority Mortgage Meltdown, but your argument has to reveal the positions being disputed.
Or you could just cut and paste a thought crime from that paper where relevant to your discussion of Bitcoin.
[*deleted*]
Thanks for listening to this rant and prediction 🙂
https://blog.reaction.la/uncategorized/moderation-policy/
Get yourself whitelisted first. It is easy
Can’t because not interested in politics or religions or whatever.
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Not interested in women either?
Everyone has to commit thought crimes in order to get their little man wet.
The red pill is our greatest sales tool. (Though the jab comes close) The government is forbidding thoughts one needs to survive and reproduce.
The red pill is a topic everyone thinks about and cares about. Though I really should add to the list thought crimes about the jab. I just don’t have accurate information on what the shills are forbidden to notice people saying about it.
And then there is war in the Ukraine. The Ukraine is running out men, and there is a faction in the government that wants to conscript American whites to die in eastern Europe. No opinions on Soros’ role in getting this war started?
Its amazing how effective shill tests are…
> Its amazing how effective shill tests are…
While normally that would be true, here you have no basis upon which to say that because you cannot see what he said, you are literally prognosticating and predisposing upon a position of which you have no knowledge of… literal proof of ignorance. When I can see what he said, is when I will debate and shill test him, out in public, where I can win, not in cowardice where I can only lose.
It does not matter what he said, nor does it matter what he says.
I don’t block people on content, I don’t block people on what they say. You can say anything you like on this blog, (apart from stupid and repetitious insults – clever and entertaining insults are allowed) People of all faiths and political orientations are welcome, unless boring, ignorant, unresponsive, or irrelevant.
The Cominator can see what he cannot say.
I block people on what they cannot say, nor notice anyone else saying, or respond to anyone else saying.
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No one gets blocked for what they said.
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Take the shill test and get white listed.
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You keep endlessly posting this stuff, and I keep endlessly silently deleting it.
If you want it to get through, pass the shill test and get whitelisted. Anyone can pass the test, unless they have a supervisor standing over them.
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Jim I casually read coin blogs and see you deleting too many peoples comments on bitcoin a technology.
I seriously doubt the comments you are deleting are false. [*deleted*]
You are quite right to doubt that. They are full of entirely valid criticisms of Bitcoin, that urgently deserve discussion.
But it became immediately obvious that they have a supervisor standing over them, and these criticisms come from a script, that they have no comprehension of the criticisms that they are robotically making, that they are incapable of discussing them, and/or are not allowed to discuss them. They have a script, and their supervisor makes sure they stick to it. No discussion with them is possible.
To demonstrate that you can discuss these issues, simply pass the shill test described in the moderation policy Anyone can pass this, regardless of his religious or political beliefs, regardless of what issues he wants to speak about, anyone who is not reading from a script with a supervisor standing over him, can pass this.
And then I will be very happy to discuss these issues, which do indeed need to be discussed.
Hello everyone.
I’m writing to ask for the support of you and your extended networks for Roger Ver.
As you may know, Roger was indicted and arrested this weekend by the USA.
Roger is a principled man and does try as hard as anyone else, as any other Voluntaryist, to stick to those principles and do right by that, and in that there is no such wrong.
Roger was singlehandedly one of the literally few biggest players responsible for getting Bitcoin and the infrastructure for Bitcoin seeded across the world in the early years. From radio broadcasts and billboards to conferences and exchanges and massive investments in Bitcoin startups and retailing commerce and genuine coin and coin technology development projects.
Simply put, Roger’s early and ongoing work behind the scenes was formative and indispensible to cryptocurrency. Without Roger crypto would not have moved as far and fast as it has.
This event is also a temporary setback at a moment when, upon the release and public recognition of the truths in his book “Hijacking Bitcoin”, many OG’s and new people alike have now been reforming towards a rebirth and restoration of the original cypherpunk goal and movement of creating a real P2P Electronic Cash, that Satoshi wrote of but was never able to continue the ongoing future development of. This movement is growing quickly, and all options to realizing that goal are now rightly back on the table again, and soon to be in the public discourse again.
Roger is now subject to the extraordinarily persecutive witch trials and indefinite incarceration and torturous ways of the US Govt, and as such he is at severe risk.
Regardless of your position re Roger’s extensive work,
and wherever you think Cryptocurrency needs to go,
Roger’s arrest presents a Human situation now.
Please support Roger Ver.
Thanks.
Roger Ver is a non US citizen who renounced his US citizenship a long time ago, thus the tax charges are unjust.
I vigorously disagree with some of Roger Ver’s extensive work. He is something of a crypto currency scammer. Nonetheless, on the side of crypto and crypto currency against the state.
[*Please take the shill test described in the moderation policy and get white listed.
Commenters who are not white listed may have their comments unkindly edited or silently and arbitrarily deleted
White listed commenters can say anything they like, and it will immediately appear as is. There is no censorship on this blog, just spam prevention.
If a commenter comments under a handle and fake email that has not been white listed, I assume it is spam, because it usually is, and do not necessarily read it very carefully. Or at all.*]
Hopefully this video, and the larger podcast, will give some food
for thought, and maybe even some Anarcho-Inspiration…
https://twitter.com/Anarchast/status/1774169478168777049
Roger often says something like “Code and Support and
Use whatever you want, engage in free-market competition,
and let the market choose which among them are working
best for Human Freedom in the World.”
It’s time to create and use things that work, privately, uncensorably.
We are not alone in the world.
You are now on moderation, because a bunch of obvious shills have been shilling Roger Ver. Please take the shill test described in the moderation policy and get white listed.
[*Please take the shill test described in the moderation policy and get white listed.7
Commenters who are not white listed may have their comments unkindly edited or silently and arbitrarily deleted
White listed commenters can say anything they like, and it will immediately appear as is. There is no censorship on this blog, just spam prevention.
If a commenter comments under a handle and fake email that has not been white listed, I assume it is spam, because it usually is, and do not necessarily read it very carefully. Or at all.*]