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Government Healthcare and the deficit

Healthcare in the US is extraordinarily, ludicrously, bad. It is also absurdly, extraordinarily, ludicrously expensive, both for any individual who is not part of an official victim group, and for the government. The government deficit is about two trillion dollars, and is unsustainable. Economic collapse and hyperinflation looms.

The cost of healthcare to the government is about equal to the deficit. Comparing US (corrupt civil service and judiciary) health care spending with Singapore (honest civil service and judiciary) health care spending we may conclude that almost all of that is waste, fraud, and corruption. Fix waste, fraud, and corruption in healthcare, and you fix the deficit. Fix it in healthcare and defence, and you are running a huge surplus, plus you get a military that would not be defeated by superior Russian logistic capability. Fix it in Healthcare, defence, and education …

US government education is the world’s most expensive child minding service.

One of the big benefits of living in Mexico is genuinely private healthcare. Healthcare in Mexico is better quality and price for the individual than the US. Singaporean healthcare is, of course, way higher quality than Mexican healthcare, let alone American.

US government spending on healthcare is twenty percent of GDP, one fifth of GDP, to provide very bad healthcare that is very expensive for individuals. Singaporean healthcare is one sixtieth of GDP. Singapore has the most honest judiciary and civil service in the world, while the Global American Empire has severe and rapidly increasing corruption, visible in the astonishing wealth of its ever more numerous and ever wealthier political elites. Every president except Trump left the presidency vastly wealthier than when he arrived, and the same thing happens all the way down.

A lot of countries provide “free” healthcare. Which is unsustainable, and inevitably turns into mass murder, as in Canada and England. American healthcare has not yet turned into mass murder, but is unsustainable. Financial collapse and hyperinflation looms. You could provide free healthcare if you had an honest and competent civil service like that of Singapore to provide it, but governments that provide “free healthcare” do so out of evil ideology whose adherents increasingly worship demons, so I am unaware of any government has yet provided free healthcare without providing murder instead. The Philippines has a “free” healthcare system, but it tends to kidnap poor people who patronise it and demand that their kin come up with enormous sums of money to get them back. Which is better than practising mass murder, but does not sound much like “free”. You can ransom your kinfolk out of the “free” Filipino medical system, whereas in most of the west, they just murder them. It is a Pareto improvement, but overall, free healthcare in the Philippines is not cheap even if you are on a western salary. You will pay less and get higher quality care in private. For ordinary Filipinos, free healthcare is apt to be far too expensive. Because “free” in the Philippines is expensive, sometimes very expensive, just as American health insurance does not insure, the Philippines have avoided mass murder on the scale of Canada, England, and similar western countries.

The US healthcare system has not yet turned murderous, but no government can sustain this level of healthcare expenditure indefinitely. The cost to government has to be radically reduced, either by mass murder like that of England, or by some better method. Unfortunately a morally better method than mass murder requires a morally better government, which is difficult.

The level of government meddling in Singaporean health care is considerably less than in most countries, but it is not radically less. Singaporean health system is not all that less governmental than healthcare systems in other countries, and not all that radically different from the way it is organised in other countries. It is just that it works and other countries do not. Indeed lots of countries have been copying the outward forms of Singaporean healthcare, while strangely unable to copy the inward substance. Cargo Cult imitation.

You can make a good case based on Singapore for a substantial reduction in government intervention in healthcare, but the level of government in healthcare in Singapore is not all that much less. The big difference is not that it is arguably smaller, but that it actually works. Similarly, Russia.

However it is worth studying what government medical interventions are absent in Singapore, and present in most other countries. In most cases, the primary purpose of such interventions is to enrich people in Washington and Harvard, particularly, but far from exclusively, the Medical-Industrial complex.

The Christian faith in the Philippines is dying, but still strong. It is likely this is the reason that free healthcare in the Philippines is so expensive. The faith prevented them from resorting to murder on the scale that most western free healthcare systems have deployed. Being reluctant to make “free” murderous, they made it expensive, which is a Pareto improvement.

11 comments Government Healthcare and the deficit

Travis says:

“The US healthcare system has not yet turned murderous, ”

The hell it hasn’t. During the birdemic hospitals were paid bounties for use of remdesivir (kills kidneys) and use of ventilators which killed 90% of those “patients” they were used on. Doctors recommending treatments that worked were sanctioned, de-licensed and silenced.

Jim says:

Well, it has not turned murderous on the British scale, where if you are a pensioner it is dangerous to show up at the emergency room.

Pax Imperialis says:

Ahh… Jim, you’re already walking back your stance. It was poorly worded to begin with. Haven’t you seen all those TikTok videos of dumb hospital whores shaking their asses during Covid while mocking those using “horse dewormer”? What about the medical community’s shunning and eventual removal of the J&J vaccine which was based on more proven technology (which still didn’t work but was less likely to kill you) in favor of completely unproven mRNA? Btw why is it that many of the biggest promoters of untested medical technologies were the same people advocating for population reduction? We all know the reasons why, and those are just a few recent examples.

I have a good buddy who found out the school nurse were telling his very pre-purberty daughter in private that it was time to go to the hospital to get HPV vaccine without parental knowledge nor consent. He and his wife are set to have another baby soon and the hospital is trying to force them to have the baby treated with ceftriaxone as a precaution against STI being transferred from the mother… even though she tested negative in state mandated testing.

>Well, it has not turned murderous on the British scale

Maybe, maybe not. Such statistics are hard to come by because everyone is lying in the statistics. We do know for certain that the American system is sexually mutilating far more than the British system, chances are they are also murdering far more as well. We just do it differently than the British. Whereas their system neglects their undesirables to death, our system mal-practices to death in order to transfer wealth.

Jim says:

The infamous Liverpool pathway is rather more drastic and swift than “neglect”. Mere neglect might result in undesirables hanging around the hospital for too long.

Pax Imperialis says:

The “undesirables” are hanging around the hospital for too long… well that’s if they survive long enough to get there.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0C8kq5Cr6C4

It took multiple phone calls and a hour and a half just for the ambulance to show up in Chester. Ambulances are averaging 40 minutes. The nurses are quitting the the practices are closing down.

Jehu says:

Pretty much every single-payer system rations by passive aggression. The ones that have corruption mediating their service queues are the least inhuman. I have a friend stuck in the VA queue to get his hip replaced. I’m pretty sure they’re hoping he’ll die before he finishes jumping through all the hoops. Being able to pay a few thousand as a bribe to get him taken care of properly would be a Godsend. What I can’t figure out is why the English like their system. Do they really prefer being delayed/denied by passive aggression and hoop jumping to fee for service?

Jim says:

The passive aggression is irritating, but not lethally dangerous. What is dangerous is if you are so sick that their rules require that they have to take you in. Or if their rules require that they take you in, regardless of whether it is necessary or not. Since they cannot in fact take in everyone that the proforma rules require them to take in, the excess gets murdered.

Jehu says:

More than irritating if you need a hip and knee replacement. With my friend it’s basically bone grinding on bone and I can see how much he suffers despite a good college try at keeping a stoic exterior. The really sad thing is that he wants to work, pay taxes and so forth. Fixing him would probably be a solid investment of funds. The VA also gets super punitive with you if you try going to other health care providers. In that way they’re actually nastier than most single payer systems, who kinda prefer that you do.

Travis says:

Karl Deninger has been banging on this topic for 25 years……

https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=231561

JustAnotherGuy says:

There’s a lot of ruin in a nation Jim. I’m going to side with the ‘nothing ever happens’ dudes on the economy. Things can get worse, much worse. Even if it costs 1000 USD to buy a cup of coffee people will still go on with their normalcy bias.

Assume the economy collapses around 2026, and hyper inflation by 2026 or 2027. What really changes? I don’t think they will defund the healthcare, education, workers-who-don’t-produce-anything-of-value-complex regardless of the realities on the ground. Probably a lot of spastic uhh ‘accidents’ like all the guys falling out of windows in Russia. But I don’t think anyone is gonna get their piece of the pie taken away even when things get dire.

JustAnotherGuy says:

Off-topic, twitter is still doing shadowbans. Aedan’s old posts on x are unsearchable unless you manually go back to them by scrolling. There’s also a rate limit on searching twitter now which doesn’t differentiate between any user (so basically every account on there is on a rate limit). You will have to keep entering the same search result until you get over the rate limit.

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