Thermidor breaks left

Thermidor always breaks left or right.

Because Thermidorians see themselves as sinners, and the radical left as their moral superiors, they find it very difficult to organise effectively against their radical left opponents. Some times they recognise this and hire reaction to the dirty work for them, as Cromwell hired Monck, and the French Thermidoreans initially tolerated the white terror of the incroyables. Sometimes they fail to hire reaction, and wind up rolling over for the left.

When Charlie Kirk was murdered Musk, instead of issuing orders to silence the left on X, issued orders to silence “hate”, which orders got re-interpreted and re-re-interpreted, so that Charlie Kirk is hate, Maga is hate, Trump is hate, but calling for and justifying the murder of fascists is the opposite of hate, that calling everyone to the right of Pol Pot a “fascist” is opposing hatred.

The entire mainstream left is advocating mass murder and when they win the 2026 mid terms are, which they will with Trump unsuccessfully attempting to cancel Majorie Taylor Green and Thomas Massie, they will get on with it:

They refuse to condemn the murder Charlie Kirk. “I oppose all violence” (where Charlie Kirk is defined as violence, and murdering him is therefore opposing violence. Also, saying “all lives matter” is violence against black people.)

And so Maga has been shadow banned on X, and we see a propaganda storm under way intended to cancel, deplatform and demonetize Tucker, who is supposedly advocating the genocide of the Jews in the name of Christ, and Charlie Kirk was supposedly actually carrying it out. Any leftist is going to tell you Charlie Kirk is guilty of genocide, or, if he will not tell you that, will remain silent when Trantifa tells you Charlie Kirk is guilty of genocide and refrain from contradicting them.

We are on the other side of the Rubicon. It is time to silence the left on X, not silence “hate”. If you try to be even handed under present conditions, you get what we got, which is very far from even handed. Maga gets silenced, those who intend to exterminate Maga get amplified. You cannot pursue peacetime policies in war.

To win the mid terms.

1. Trump has to kiss and make up with Majorie Taylor Greene, Tucker, and Thomas Massie, et cetera — which means he has to release the Epstein files and stop invading the world.

2. Musk has to replatform Maga on X.

3. Trump must declare the insurrection act, station ICE agents and federal troops at the voting booths to check voter citizenship and ID, ignoring judicial decrees that this is unconstitutional. DOGE, backed by federal Marshals, must pre-audit and post-audit the voting machines, or the else the federal troops should just put a few bullets through each voting machine. Federal troops must enforce chain of custody on all ballots, and destroy any ballots that lack provenance.

383 comments Thermidor breaks left

Alf says:

What a mess huh. Normality bias here, normality bias there. Folks, the time of fishing in the Rubicon is over!

Either the left uses violence to genocide all whites, or the right uses violence to usher in a restoration.

someDude says:

Trump has done more than any other. And has the potential to do more than any other. But can he do what is needed? The man is having greatness thrust upon him

hcm says:

And he is trying so very hard to say no. I think in his gut he knows that he doesn’t get a say at this point, but he is hesitant to be the man to fully shatter the illusion of the America he loved.

someDude says:

Might just end up as a tragic hero. Which would be …… Tragic!

Like the Greek heroes of old

Problem is, this ain’t no movie with a guaranteed Happy ending

Let’s see what happens

Mossadnik says:

… All this, as I say, seems mere muddle-headed absurdity to the typical leader of human society in this decade, to a man like Mr. Balfour, or Mr. Wyndham. But there is nevertheless a further thing to be said, and that is that, if Mr. Balfour could be converted to a religion which taught him that he was morally bound to walk into the House of Commons on his hands, and he did walk on his hands, if Mr. Wyndham could accept a creed which taught that he ought to dye his hair blue, and he did dye his hair blue, they would both of them be, almost beyond description, better and happier men than they are. For there is only one happiness possible or conceivable under the sun, and that is enthusiasm—that strange and splendid word that has passed through so many vicissitudes, which meant, in the eighteenth century the condition of a lunatic, and in ancient Greece the presence of a god.

https://www.gutenberg.org/files/62045/62045-h/62045-h.htm

Perhaps relevant, somehow.

Contaminated NEET says:

Yes. To the extent that any novel situation can penetrate his calcified brain, Trump probably wants to avoid going down in history as the Man Who Ended American Democracy more than he wants to win.

Gedeon says:

Trump is of the merchant class and merchants have never been great statesmen. Sadly, our great statesmen will likely be derivative of a vicious war era, domestic and foreign, because Trump fancies himself a great negotiator when the moment calls for a great man.

Sher Singh says:

They break left because of normalcy bias.
However, can they be pulled right?

Is the dissident right cohesive enough to survive under conditions of leftist victory?

Humungus says:

If there can be no compromise, then war is the answer.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QTCCgQLdHuU

The Cominator says:

Re Massie, he is an open borders piece of shit but the rest of it is true. He must also take very very strong action on Indian immigration. I don’t quite see that X shadowbanned MAGA.

Daddy Scarebucks says:

It’s not evident to me that MAGA is shadowbanned on Twitter, nor that the ire against Tucker is entirely inauthentic or unjustified. Nevertheless, I saw this coming. You’ll recall that the day after Kirk’s murder, I said that in order for justice to be done, it would have to be swift, brutal and public–and it was none of those things.

I also observed that the frequency and intensity of shilling had exploded during that first 1-2 weeks afterward; that the left on some level realized this could be existential for both them and us, and that they needed us to be distracted with something, anything else. Joo joo joo is always the most popular (and far too successful, still) but they were also flooding us with irrelevant nonsense about Islam, Trooferism, bullshit economics, and Bigfoot-tier conspiracy theories.

Not that we had any ability to administer justice, but it is a reflection of what happened on the larger scale, including the nominal government. Merchant Trump just wanted to get on with the business of running things, of lowering interest rates or somesuch, and didn’t have the time or inclination for an ostentatious show of power, or perhaps still doesn’t have the power itself, and the left can smell weakness a galaxy away.

If they know that their lunatics can kill with impunity, then they know that their judges can legislate from the bench with impunity, that their teachers can keep indoctrinating and abusing kids with impunity, that their NGOs can color revolution with impunity, and that their HR departments can keep pushing DEI with impunity. It all flows down from power.

It is not too late to fix this, and I don’t think midterm elections really matter anyway except as an indication of who is counting the votes, nor do I think it’s reasonable for certain individuals to think that Trump is somehow going to single-handedly solve all/any of the problems in their personal lives. But, the memory of Kirk is no longer fresh, Trump/MAGA have lost the opportunity to capitalize on that and consequently given the left a huge advantage both strategically and rhetorically, so it’s going to take something even bigger and grander to reverse the leftward drift.

I can only hope that there is some “buildup” going on, as in a figurative or possibly very literal military buildup, in which they know they’re presently behind but expect to be acquiring the potential for force projection faster than the left can complete its divide-and-conquer campaign. Even the jeets are a secondary issue right now, much as it pains me to say so. It’s the time of eat or be eaten.

That is to say, even if they do all those 3 things and sweep the midterms, it is just treading water. Have to start swimming, otherwise it’s only delaying the inevitable.

Cloudswrest says:

Google AI explicitly distorts the meaning of The Good Samaritan and who is one’s neighbor.

The Parable of the Good Samaritan is a story from the New Testament where a man is robbed, beaten, and left for dead on the side of the road. A priest and a Levite pass him by, but a Samaritan—a member of a group despised by Jews at the time—stops to help him, bandaging his wounds and taking him to an inn to recover. Jesus told this parable to illustrate that one’s neighbor is anyone in need, and to teach that true compassion is shown through merciful actions, regardless of who the person is.

“Which of these three do you think was a neighbor to the man who fell into the hands of robbers?”

Repeating Jim, A “neighbor” is one who acts neighborly toward you. The Good Samaritan was the neighbor, not the Levite or the priest, and especially not the victim of the robbers.

Mossadnik says:

Christ’s question (Luke 10:36),

Which now of these three, thinkest thou, was neighbour unto him that fell among the thieves?

Suggests that “all humans are my neighbors” is not the correct perspective – not everyone is your neighbor. (The cooperator is your neighbor; the defector is not.)

The leftist AI demon is unfamiliar with Game Theory.

Redbible says:

The worst part about the the claim that the answer to “Who is my neighbor?” is “Everyone” or “Anyone in need” is that means that the priest and Levite that passed him by and left him for dead are is “Real neighbors”, and worse, it means that the Thieves that robbed, beat, and left the man for dead are his “Real neighbors”.

Truly an evil an demonic interpretation. There are many heads that must roll for the creation of such an evil interpretation.

Also, not the passive voice that the google AI uses about the story: “a man is robbed, beaten, and left for dead on the side of the road.” Yes, Google, BY WHOM WAS HE ROBBED? Or is this just chance that happened that caused him to be robbed, and no one is to blame since everyone is our “neighbor”?

Bert says:

“Federal troops must enforce chain of custody on all ballots, and destroy any ballots that lack provenance.”
Seems like a good idea to keep those ballots, and count them after election to see if/how lopsided they are. Obviously, no matter what the confiscated ballots showed, that would be called election interference or fraud, but it would be anyway.

Handi says:

Only if Trump is able to identify individual fraudsters and their organizers, and willing to make them join the synchronized diving team. Otherwise revealing the fake number is a half measure that only creates a rallying point for the fraud, and it would be better to remain discreet. A sovereign cannot afford to accuse his enemies without viciously punishing them.

SkipRamen says:

As expected when Sheinbaum got prop-installed over MX, real Mexicans would not like that GloboHomo-WEFtism-Jewry-Female flavor one bit, and are now Storming the Castle… doing the thing that the brainwashed mass of cuckmen population in CA/NZ/US couldn’t manage to rise up and do to Trudeau/Ardern/Obama-Hillary and everyone else so far now including AOC/Omar/Mamdani.

“Sheinbaum and her Socialist Party have allowed many elected officials to be killed by the cartels.”
“Graffiti now calling President Claudia Sheinbaum a “Jewish Whore”.”

Speech
https://twitter.com/ben_kew/status/1841964786247979021

Revolt
https://twitter.com/AFpost/status/1989790041770455103
https://twitter.com/Carlos__Turcios/status/1989844812955099185
https://twitter.com/digijordan/status/1989951860657012960
https://twitter.com/Julio_Rosas11/status/1989785190156087721
https://twitter.com/MarioNawfal/status/1989921374224179317

“Sheinbaum is a member of Morena (Movimiento de Regeneración Nacional), a left-wing political party in Mexico that aligns ideologically with far-left U.S. politicians through Democratic Socialists of America. DSA supports unhinged leftists, including Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and Zohran Mamdani. ”

“Remember the name of Mexico’s new president Claudia Sheinbaum. She is another Marxist authoritarian and is going to cause America endless headaches.”

WQ results in more than just Black/Islamic/Brown babies in White Wombs…

These lists are what happens to you Politically, to your Country and Nation, when Men fail to keep their Daughters at home until marrying them off to right Men…

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Young_Global_Leaders
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Union_of_Socialist_Youth

You let your daughters play among the flowers by taking them to the nearest field, not by sending them to GloboSoc Flower Power Camps… those are not safe outlets for your Civ.

Mossadnik says:

Yeah, it’s beyond just libtardism. BAP the gay misogynist is right: even “conservative” women involved in politics tend to bring more harm than good.

Kshatriyas are the natural governing class for a reason.

Freddo Frog says:

brainwashed mass of cuckmen population in CA/NZ/US

Black/Islamic/Brown babies in White Wombs

These are the enemy’s words. Demoralisation propaganda, straight from the mouth of Sauron. Linkfest posters are all the same.

Mossadnik says:

The defining characteristic of a red-blooded Aryan warrior is policing other men’s language, instead of engaging with the veracity of its content or lack thereof.

/sarcasm

Freddo Frog says:

Everything good, mate?

Mossadnik says:

Yeah. What is unhealthy for a person, anyone really, is to play a Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde game, day in and day out, where IRL you’re one thing, and then beyond online anonymity you’re almost 180 degrees something else. At some point it’s better to start being “self-integrated.” This might lead to… moderation. Others may call it – sanity.

Do you appreciate my honesty, or do you want the LARP to keep on LARPing?

Freddo Frog says:

Each man is responsible for the things that he himself does, says, or thinks, but not for the things that other men do, say, or think.

Mossadnik says:

Right, and I take full responsibility for previous mistakes, which were many, and now seek to amend them. That’s a hallmark of maturity, some may say.

Mossadnik says:

You might say that the IRL me is flawed – I grant that. But the anonymous online me was not any less flawed, perhaps indeed even more flawed, just in a different way. Ultimately, the plan is not to affirm my prejudices or yours or anyone else’s, but to actually establish a workable and good thing. This requires, again, taking many factors into account, e.g. recognizing that many aspects of modernity are here to stay, that it’s not all good or all bad, and that from time to time, even that which was selected by convergent evolution will be updated, because evolution (biological/social) is always progressing somewhere – the question is where, and how to shape it properly amid changing circumstances.

Going full retard will inevitably give you a society of full retards.

Mossadnik says:

Reality is Real, and Divine Law, as such, is derived therefrom. If Reality does not affirm your original, preconceived notion of what Divine Law is, then Reality always wins (no matter how one might feel about it) and your notion, regardless of how compelling it is in your mind, loses. And since Reality itself is not immutable, neither is Divine Law. That is the true, fundamental Revelation.

(Oh, and by the way, some predictions are still in limbo. But you should be mentally prepared to see a few preconceived notions falsified by Reality in 2026. We’ll see, though – if I’m wrong, I’ll readily admit to it.)

Mossadnik says:

God promised in Isaiah/Revelation a New Heaven and a New Earth, which confirms that Reality is not immutable. So you update your conception of the Law based on Reality. Doing the opposite thing is Gnosticism.

Mossadnik says:

Mohammedans and Orthodox Jews will never colonize the universe, because they fundamentally do not derive the Law from Reality. They follow their Scriptures; but it seems that from time to time, you do need a Prophet (and/or, y’know…) to shine a new Light, and point out that, in Reality, some old things have passed, as 2 Corinthians 5:17 would have it.

Judaizers are heretics.

Mossadnik says:

And no Freddo, I’m not gay. But I’m also not pushing my gay acquaintances off any roofs. (Into the closet, yes.) And I was in fact wrong to holiness spiral against BAP, whereas Jim/Pax had it exactly right.

Mossadnik says:

Also Freddo – ask yourself who is much, much more likely to convert the Brahmins to a sane worldview: 2019 shaman, or 2025 Mossadnik?

Jim says:

Mossadnik, your content is OK, but there is just too much of it.

Please hold back, and only give us your best. You are from time to time flooding the comments section, and drowning out everyone else.

Right now, we have a very nasty split between Israel and Maga. “Hail fellow Maga supporter — America First is Russian disinfo, therefore to protect Maga from RussiaRussiaRussia disinfo, Maga must be silenced, Tucker must be cancelled, deplatformed, and demonetized, and the only people that can be trusted with the Epstein files is Mossad. We cancelled European democracy to protect you from Russian disinfo, and we must cancel democracy in America to protect American democracy from Russian disinfo, antisemitism holocaust six million Hitler Hitler Hitler six million fascist fascist fascist. To protect against RussiaRussiaRussia sponsored racism we had to jail ten thousand white Britons for social media posting, maybe you filthy goyim cattle we fellow white male Maga supporters just go to jail.”

I welcome your opinions on this. The opionions of nationalist Jews on such issues are more interesting than your opinions on Christianity.

I am interested in why secular Jews continue to reproduce. Are secular Jews continuing to reproduce? If true, I find it surprising. Anecdotal data is often more reliable than “scientific” statistical data, because the peer review panel is apt to cook the data, but I would like your review of the the scientific and “scientific” statistical data on this question.

I find your account of Arab Israeli failure to reproduce improbable. A conquered and defeated people fail to reproduce. Oh what a surprise. Also bears shit in the woods and the Pope worships demons.

Well, you say, Arabs are not conquered and defeated, but free to practice patriarchy. Yet somehow they are not.

UAE, where Arabs are definitely not conquered, and definitely are free to practice patriarchy, had in 2008, around 50% of Emirati women over 30 unmarried, rising to approximately 60% by 2012 and beyond.

I do not have data, nor anecdote, for Israeli Arabs. But I have both data and anecdote for UAE arabs. The great majority of UAE women are on the (single girl–>career woman–>hundred cock stare->crazy cat lady–>hag–>evil witch attempting to cast curses) treadmill.

Does not seem probable that Israeli Arabs are in much better shape. I do not know Israeli Arab women. But I know UAE women, and to a UAE woman, Uncle Ahmed from the village is just a cockroach underneath the cupboards. Which is odd, because the law and the official faith seems quite patriarchal. Except that the law and the official faith are respectful, indeed worshipful, of female sexual choice.

The solution for the UAE is obvious, yet unthinkable. Shotgun marriage before the onset of the hundred cock stare. We don’t necessarily have to go all the way to shotgun marriage of fifteen year old virgins, though I am strongly in favor of that solution, and the Taliban has allowed and encouraged dads to implement it, but we definitely need intervention before the hundred cock stare sets in and Uncle Ahmed from the village turns completely invisible.

Mossadnik says:

I apologize, and will try my best. Sometimes I get really enthusiastic about these ideas. Yes, I should try to condense them into longer, more effort-y posts.

Mossadnik says:

> The opinions of nationalist Jews on such issues are more interesting than your opinions on Christianity.

By the way, I’d say that (moderate) Israeli patriotism is closer to my worldview than Jewish nationalism; in fact I’ve always found it easier to befriend and get along with “goyim cattle” than with my co-ethnics. Moreover, I recognize that some Palestinian complaints against Zionism might be justified; duh – Israel was originally established by “national socialist” (leftist) Jews.

My own grandfather was a Likud-voter and in fact something of a monarchist – at the same time he never lost sight of the humanity of all people, even our sworn enemies, and I’ll always cherish his moral guidance.

Mossadnik says:

(If we’re basing our worldview on what our eyes witness, then perhaps it’s better to put aside one’s convenient confirmation bias, and actually observe what works and why it works, and what fails and why it fails. Not just historically, but under the current conditions. You may be surprised to discover that sometimes patterns just do not match your predictions. Not just as statistical outliers, but as (some) general trends. Occasionally, observed patterns may even be opposite your initial expectations. What do, homie?

Do you go with reality as you actually observe it, or with preconceived ideology?

Then again, don’t let anything I write dissuade you from doing whatever you believe needs to be done. Maybe you’re right and I’m wrong, in which case – Godspeed.)

Freddo Frog says:

Certain people can create around themselves a bubble in which others can take refuge during an extinction event. Examples are Noah with his Ark, Moses and Exodus, and, of course, Christ with his advice to head for the hills during the siege of Jerusalem. Further, leftist mass killing events are not evenly spread, but localised. For example, during the Great Leap Forward, death rates differed by orders of magnitude between provinces and even between neighbouring counties.

I am interested in knowing what I can do to decrease the likelihood that, in the worst case scenario, the people around me are murdered by evil witches casting curses.

Mossadnik says:

> I am interested in knowing what I can do to decrease the likelihood that, in the worst case scenario, the people around me are murdered by evil witches casting curses.

Basics of nature – Fight or Flight.

If Fight, need an Army, a Faith, and a King.

If Flight, need a safe location.

Beyond that, I’m sure you have better ideas than I do. You Freddo seem like a practical person — with significant experience of the big world out there — likely much more so than myself, who am just an amateur theologian after all.

(Generally priests shouldn’t tell warriors how to fight their battles.)

Anon says:

is what happing in mexico real , or color revolution ?

Bwana Simba says:

Maybe, but I fail to see why they would color revolution a government they have control over. maybe there is someone even gayer and farther left they can prop up instead?

Contaminated NEET says:

This makes sense. The Mexican revolution is probably real, but it will invariably end up subverted, managed, and steered into more globohomo nonsense. The enemy isn’t as sharp as he was 60 years ago, but he’s still extremely ruthless, clever, and adaptable, and he’s been running the table since before my great grandpa was born.

Jim says:

> will invariably end up subverted, managed, and steered into more globohomo nonsense

You give the enemy too much credit. They are utterly incompetent at this stuff. Remember Libya? They flattened the place, they installed their American-Libyan pets, and what good did it do them? Once they ran out of high explosives, their pets found themselves dangling from a rope. Globohomo conquered an oil rich country and lost their pants. Their gay parade got sodomised with bayonets. Remember the Haitian earthquake? “Ah, lets grab power and loot people who have nothing”. Blew up in their faces. Globohomo could not run a pie stand.

Contaminated NEET says:

If the intention is to deliver quality pies to customers for a fair price, then no, the pie stand is a bust. If the intention is to gather up a whole bunch of money, power, and status while making sure that nobody else is allowed to sell pies within a 50 mile radius, then it’s been a roaring success. Aid to Haiti hasn’t done much for the Haitians, but it’s made a lot of apparatchiks very wealthy and given them a sheen of moral superiority to working schmucks.

Jim says:

> Aid to Haiti hasn’t done much for the Haitians, but it’s made a lot of apparatchiks very wealthy and given them a sheen of moral superiority to working schmucks.

Until it stopped making them wealthy.

And how did aid to Libya work out? Did not go entirely great for Clinton’s gay pride ambassador?

It looks to me that these guys burn down everything they touch, and you say “oh they intended to burn it all down so they could rip the copper wiring out of the walls” I doubt Clinton’s gay pride ambassador to Libya intended to sodomised with explosives so that Al Quaeda could rip the copper wiring out of the embassy walls.

Contaminated NEET says:

Libya went just fine. A handful of completely expendable worker bees bit it, but so what? Nobody who matters paid any price. As for Al Qaeda, Hilary Clinton herself said that the American people are too stupid to understand that they are our allies now, so we have to carefully manage the narrative. An enemy of globohomo was murdered by knife-sodomy and the cork keeping hundreds of millions of Africans and Arabs from flooding Europe was popped. The Beast didn’t accomplish every one of its objectives in Libya, but it hit enough to be a clear victory.

Jim says:

> Libya went just fine. A handful of completely expendable worker bees bit it.

An ambassador is not a worker bee. That is a benefit the elites hand out to their fellow elites. The gay pride ambassador to Libya got sodomised in an interesting, spectacular, extremely fatal, and hilarious way.

This was not globohomo burning down other people’s buildings so they can then rip the copper out of the walls. This was globohomo breaking and entering other peoples buildings and setting fire to them with themselves inside as they rip the copper out of the walls.

Bunch of hopeless nicompoops. Could not run a pie bakery without getting caught in the machinery and made into pies.

Whenever there is a color revolution anywhere in the world, you see the same faces doing the same photo ops, So those operatives are not expendable, since they get re-used over and over and over in one country after another. A lot of those boys failed to make it out of Libya.

Ever since Obama was elected, they have been doing pratfalls. Obama was a moron, and any leading leftist who was not moron got purged on suspicion of heresy. Now they are all idiots, and everything is falling apart.

Contaminated NEET says:

I admit, I didn’t know they actually got the ambassador in Benghazi. That put a smile on my face. I didn’t follow the story closely, but I had the impression it was only a handful of soldiers and low- to mid-ranking bureaucrats that died. The fact that this wasn’t emphasized more in the US media suggests it was a real defeat.

Still, Libya isn’t exactly a choice posting. France, Japan, Italy – good countries like that – are where the really important players get their ambassadorships. But, it was where the action was (too much action!), and his wiki article shows a pretty powerful career for the dead Proggie hack, so I can concede that an actual member of the globohomo cabal took a big L. You made my day with this, Jim.

Contaminated NEET says:

From La Wik:
>Stevens spoke English, French, and some Arabic.
>some Arabic

Jesus wept. Mr. Mideast Expert, with Years of Experience, the Technocrat, the Adult in the Room, can’t even speak the goddamned language. I hope it’s hot enough down there, Chrissy-boy. I’m really coming around to your point of view on this Libya thing, Jim.

Tejano bob says:

The overlay of cartels to pre-Columbian civilizations is pretty close.

Soft conclusion is the Cartels are leveraging tribal connections. Hard conclusion is that Mexico has been in a reconquista against the Spaniards for a while.

Trump could brain drain central & south America of the euros and probably make a lot of people happy.

Jim says:

> the Cartels are leveraging tribal connections.

No, the cartels are leveraging the Old Gods, most of which Christianity correctly classed as demons. The worship of the Old Gods tends to run somewhat along tribal lines, but far from corresponding one to one to tribal lines.

The Old Gods of Mexico walk again.

Tejano Bob says:

no disagreement here

FrankNorman says:

Soft conclusion is the Cartels are leveraging tribal connections. Hard conclusion is that Mexico has been in a reconquista against the Spaniards for a while.

What are the demographics, in terms of Iberian, Amerind, and mixed-race?

By the sound of it, the future USA-vs-Mexican one will be a religious war between Christianity and – well let’s call it Neo-Aztecism for lack of a better term.

Tejano Bob says:

I one time hinted about travelling to a co-worker’s town to get a Panama hat.

Stern face, “you can’t come to my town.”

Like the meme says, “The color of your skin is your uniform…” – George Lincoln Rockwell

We can’t tell the difference; but they can.

Tejano Bob says:

Another story.

A Mexican decent tech working in US, is talking about visiting his cousins in the old country. Him and his friends get dragged into the street to be shot during daylight hours. A store owner that knows them runs out and says, “no, these guys are cool and related.” Drama ends right there.

This story came out after I mentioned that the Cartels were Pre-Columbian.

SkipRamen says:

When the invading Political Parties and Incompatibles are leveraging asymmetric warfare and “Suicidal Empathy” against you, you need to engage in reactive warfare of your own.

As with the New Testament Mobile GhettoBlaster Project that needs to happen in every infested Inner-City… consider offering 0.5BTC to anyone that gets a mobile food truck license and perma-parks one of these bad boys by the biggest Mosques in Dearborn/Minneapolis/Texas/Toledo, and outside Marx Mamdani’s NYC Office… let that sweet smoked pork waft all over, fumigate the vermin 😉

https://x.com/CaseyColoradoUS/status/1989572251415711843

Speaking of food, we have more good news from one of the American Faithful…
“All SNAP Beneficiaries Will Need To Reapply For Benefits: Agriculture Secretary Rollins”

Speaking of Invaders out-Breeding Wombs and Summer Camps not being good for your Civ, here is another example…
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Youth_Climate_Strike
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isra_Hirsi

Don’t let your boys breed with Leftist Gretas, regardless of how cute or how much they put out at the party.

When your Sons hint of interest in any right lady, quickly seek avenues of partnership and marriage with her family, get those oats set down on the right path, and help them buy a home fit for babymaking.

Mossadnik says:

It’s important for the dominant, popular religion to be pro-natalist. Say what you will about Israeli Judaism, normal (normie) people here often have healthy fertility, for the simple reason that there’s a pro-reproductive atmosphere and a pro-child culture.

Alternatively, you can base your weltanschauung on the sperg-outs of jew-weirdo freaks on the internet, but I’d advise against it. 😉

Edit_XYZ says:

>Trump…has to release the Epstein files and stop invading the world.

Trump is in the Epstein files. It must be nasty stuff, too.
That’s why he does the jews’ bidding so faithfully. Why he fights to keep the files hidden.

FrankNorman says:

Trump is in the Epstein files. It must be nasty stuff, too.
That’s why he does the jews’ bidding so faithfully. Why he fights to keep the files hidden

My take on this, for what it’s worth, is that so many people, on both sides, are “in the Epstein files” that a full disclosure would effectively be a MAD option – for the Democrats, for the Republicans, and for the Israelis.

Pax Imperialis says:

As well as international implications. The operation seemed to target everyone of prominence in GAE.

Mossadnik says:

My take is that whether or not the “files” are released, there is absolutely nothing worthy in them. If Epstein was intelligence, the kompromat is with his handlers, and not on any “files.”

The Gasman says:

Well, one can always argue – the greatest opportunity of losing a communist revolution is that you can just put on a hammer and sickle and start starving communists.

Neurotoxin says:

I like your can-do attitude in this comment, but that only could have worked back when the left’s rhetoric and ideology really were about economics. Now it’s about race, and you can’t change your race the way you can change what flag you’re waving.

SkipRamen says:

There are very Dark Forces at work around the world that are intentionally creating the Invasions, Ruins, and Wars that we see… by Train/Fund/Install the Political Class into Parliaments/Congresses against the People.
Until these Unseen Dark Forces are identified and terminated, we will see more of their evidence and results…

https://x.com/BasedJess05/status/1990127177937924417
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcnHEHGUdaY

When the US bans all outbound remittances, a lot of the H1B and Chinese/Islamic/Hispanic/Hindu problem will be de-incentivized and wiped out. Call it Preventing Economic Theft / Supporting Foreign Powers or some shit.

https://alt-market.us/the-foreign-worker-scam-exposes-trumps-economic-achilles-heal/

Similarly, the Right/Admin might easily seed and deploy a public and private sector ideology of pro-baby/housing/career/faith/charity type programs for supporting those having early-generation “American Heritage Families” call them, those dating from 1776 up to end of WWII… which would thus bypass the last 2-generations of imports, and conveniently avoid many discrimination laws.

Strengthen the Base.

Meme the Soft Pasty White Center into deciding to return to Right based on subliminal Biological Survival DNA Instinct, on not getting wiped out, instead of letting Left meme them with MOAR Free Shit.

Epstein? Only thing that matters is if Trump fucked a teenager or “did not have sex with that woman – BillClinton”.
If he didn’t, he should release the files, Party Be Damned, because someone else will.
If he fucked up, he’s going to have to do a lot of talking seeking political and personal repentence and forgiveness.

Gotta face the Epstein Files head on like the Russia Hoax, bogus J6Commission, Election Fraud, etc.

Not gonna win until your own party gets cleaned out too, take whatever temporary losses you gotta take, get pure, then it’s an easy win against the Left.

Mossadnik says:

This might be a “normie take,” but the ability to afford housing does affect reproduction to a certain degree. When you can’t even dream about having your own place, of course you won’t plan on having a large family, or perhaps any family. You know, inceldom is not the Only True Problem (though it might feel that way when you’re an incel). There are couples all over the world who have 1-2 children instead of 3-4 for primarily economic reasons, for instance. Of course, when popular religion says “God wants you to reproduce,” and everybody around confirms this faith, you may compromise on your standards of living to please God and fit in with the community (women especially are herd animals); alas this does not apply to societies of atomized, materialistic atheists.

The Cominator says:

To have children and long term relationships for raising children need to fuck first. If you have to live with your parents or multiple roommates and have little disposable income it negatively impacts your ability to pick up sl00ts, and certainly negatively impacts your ability to get them to stay with you. So I agree with you here.

Mossadnik says:

Exactly so.

SkipRamen says:

Have to teach your Sons, and even your Civ-compatible couch-beer-neighbor’s Sons, that McDonald’s and WalMart’s is not a career, nor a first job.

Get them day one into Skilled Labor that has an up-path… Machinist, Data Center Jockey, Mechanic, Welder, Farmer, (even Trade Unions, gasp), Computers, any Corporate or Local Company of note… Independent Business Owner (Lawn/Paint/Remodel/HVAC)… anything that pays more than retail, preferably with some degree of manly survival skills.

Then point all the Blafric/Mohamm kids at retail and University Debt.

Mossadnik says:

(By the way Skip, just for the record, I’m not on any welfare, and my job can be categorized as “security.”)

Mossadnik says:

Speaking of jobs:

In this scheme of things every vocation you perform is called a swadharma. And this word: the word “dharma” has many meanings. Dharma. It means a function in one sense. It means the thing that is right for you. Here swa is the same as the Latin suus. And so it is one’s own. Your own function. What we would call your vocation in life. Swadharma. As we say, “doing your own thing.” That’s swadharma. And so, you have to find, as it were, your own thing. Now, a job, which you do purely for money can never be called a swadharma because you are doing it for another end—to make money, which has a purely symbolic value. But when you do a certain work because that is what is your thing to do—you want to be a doctor because you are fascinated with medicine and all its problems, and you just…you like people so much that you want to heal them from their diseases or for the same reason you might want to be a nurse or you might be fascinated with problems of law and so become a lawyer or fascinated with religion and so become a minister—then you’ve got a vocation because you would do that thing whether it paid you very much or whether it didn’t because that’s the one thing you have to do. If you’re a painter, you have to paint. If you’re a writer, you’re one of those crazy people who just has to write. I’m a writer. I have to write. Whether it makes me money or whether it doesn’t I would still have to be a writer. That’s a swadharma.

https://archive.is/sLDjt

Read the whole thing, Ramen; you might even discover an Easter Egg in there.

😉

suones says:

This is fake and gay liberandu “Hinduism” intended for Mlechcha consumption. No Aryan would embed a poisonous payload like this into a wall of (so bad it’s not even wrong) text:

There are also lower outcasts. Those are the Aborigines—the people living in India before the Aryan invasion, who later became the Untouchables. They are not even Shudra. They are outside caste altogether, like the Indians in the United States. They are true Untouchables in our caste system. Their plight is so much worse than the Negroes. It’s unbelievable. But they are outcasts. So in the same thing happened in India.

The writer is indeed worse than the Negroes.

Mossadnik says:

And here I was absolutely convinced that Alan Watts was Vishnu Incarnate; silly me. Well then, I’ll slap my own bicep on the Brian Griffin stoned with a bong tattoo as corporal punishment.

No liberandu for you HAHAHAHAHA!

Mossadnik says:

(Reminder: Curtis Yarvin supports Anal Marriage and his ideal Monarch is a Blue Tribe CEO. I do not support Anal Marriage and my ideal Monarch is a red-blooded warrior. It therefore logically follows that, for all the degeneracy, I’m still to the Right of Yarvin. Q. E. D.)

(And now, seriously, back to lurking.)

Mossadnik says:

(Oh, and one more thing while we’re at it: as I observe Reality from a perfectly rational, sober perspective, I recognize that, while profoundly wrong on many issues, Rabbi Meir Kahane, of blessed memory, had a point. I’ll never actually be a leftist, in case anyone is confused about the matter.)

Dolfin says:

Jesus Christ, you are incapable of shutting the fuck up.

Listen to me, Mossadnik.
Please only post while sober, and after writing a post, wait a few minutes before hitting “submit”. Use that time to make your post more elegant and worth reading.
Quality > quantity.

Mossadnik says:

Have been completely sober for the past week, albeit sleep deprived due to working both evening and night shifts. I do express myself rather succinctly, because when interacting with fellow brainiac wordcels, there is no need to belabor any point. If any clarification is needed, however, I’m always willing to provide it.

Alf says:

Read the room, Mossadnik. You’re hogging the comment section.

Alf says:

Also, congrats on the sober part. Happy for you.

Mossadnik says:

Thanks, Alf. Your concern for me — for this whole community, really — is deeply appreciated.

(Also, for the record – far from going crazy, I never felt more sane. And I’m not letting any hacks convince me otherwise. I’m excited and ready for whatever it is expected of me. I was born ready, some may say.)

Dolfin says:

Why did this totally legitimate human commenter just use two types of dash (— vs. –) in the same short comment?
Are we being force-fed Israeli AI slop?

Mossadnik says:

I use “–” as brackets.

I use “-” to introduce an explanation.

Just a habit; no need to suspect anything strange going on.

Mossadnik says:

By the way Dolfin, this has been a somewhat emotionally taxing period for me lately, and I’m quite sleep deprived right now and need to process some things, but one word does ring in my mind:

Hallelujah.

SkipRamen says:

Economic Problem is a bit separate from purely statistical elements of babymaking and importing.

GloboHomo has been atomizing the Strong Independent White Western/Christian Family via “Women’s Right and Joy to Work / Sexual Liberation”, leading to Corps giving lower pay to Men to cover for Women and Browns, and to Housing raping all Renters even harder, and to White Wombs being used not for White Babies, but for Mr-Mfasa/Muhammad-Player-100 (oopsie, it just “happened” “somehow” after I-The-Independant-Woman got off work).

But that brainwashing re the WQ was just the first stage, and was needed for the second…

The Evil Dark Forces are now doing…
Maximum Extraction upon Pains of Tolerance, all now calculated and aided by data-sharing aggregation companies and AI. Mortgages, Rents, Paychecks, Car Loans, and Insurance in particular.

The Black/Brown/Islamic Imports have no problem working for peanuts and living 2+ to a barren room eating subsistence, because that’s where they came from. And their women barely work, and if so, usually in their own tribal businesses. And they have no pride about going on Welfare, because it’s just another business for them.

So effect upon them is Zero, or even positive.
Effect upon Westerns is civilizational.

The Dark Forces at the top promulgating all this bullshit upon the West, via their installed Politicians, must be eliminated.

Suspicion is that the Heritage Public of the White/Christian Type West already feels it, all these issues, and have the skills and numbers and power to do it, they just need someone willing to Speak it Publicly, to rally behind, and to follow orders from… they’re waiting.
You begin to see some of this with Tommy Robinson’s Marches, people defending Wilders, Orban, etc.
The Rallies are being held, but the orders are not being given, thus the Energy is Wasted and Fizzles, with less Energy remaining every time.
GloboHomo strategy wants you to believe that Rallies are Effective Action… they are not.
So whatever the orders are, from Revolt, to Lobbying, to Voting, to Siege, to Economic Favoritism supporting your own Civ, to Race/Faith survival, whatever… they need to be given.

Always a delicate balance as to when and what, but never lacking need.

Miller/Vance/(others?), have been pushing those boundaries?

Jim says:

> The Rallies are being held, but the orders are not being given, thus the Energy is Wasted and Fizzles, with less Energy remaining every time.

To get anything done, need a King. Trump is profoundly reluctant to step up, but I have hope that circumstances may force his hand.

Normality bias leads Thermidor, and quite possibly Trump, to expect that if the left wins the midterms, which the current cynicism, dismay, and feeling of betrayal among Maga makes likely, everything is going to return to normal — it will not. Biden was wildly leftist — next time around, it will be wildly more leftist, there will be hundred, or a thousand ,or a million Charlie Kirks. The trend is ever lefter, ever faster.

Best case scenario, left goes over the top before the 2026 mid terms, and Trump declares insurrection act crushes the left with martial laws, andd fortifies the elections, with federal troops, and ICE monitoring every step, and DOGE auditing the count.

Worst case scenario, lame duck admin following the 2026 mid terms, and democide ensues, starting with all white straight males, continuing to all whites, all straights, and all males. And then a a bunch of leftist cat ladies, hags, and evil witches turn upon each other.

Thermidor appears to be breaking left, not realising this is suicide. Or perhaps they do realise it, but are unable to change because change is a collective action problem.

Mossadnik says:

> So whatever the orders are, from Revolt, to Lobbying, to Voting, to Siege, to Economic Favoritism supporting your own Civ, to Race/Faith survival, whatever… they need to be given.

Once upon a time, there used to be a commenter here who disagreed with Jim about leftism being an organized conspiracy; he argued for a more spontaneous model.

If he were still around, he could argue that anti-leftism might also function as a “spontaneous” phenomenon rather than following a top-down organization, with “leaders” as such being local entities. Of course, Jim would probably reject that premise.

Jim says:

Unorganised violence does not work. Leftist violence succeeds because there is always a commander in chief. It is centralised, in that ground work and logistics are prepared years in advance, as for example Soros prosecutors. It is also decentralised in that there is a never ending power struggle over who gets to be commander in chief, and the rank and file have very bad discipline.

Pax Imperialis says:

When I look at the current state of the left today, there is much fragmentation. The “civic institutions” just aren’t as powerful and capable of getting them all on the same page anymore, and the “resistance” against Trump has been relatively very light. Trump did damage them just enough to create a facade of 2000s, but not enough to even go back to 1980 let alone kill them outright. Yes, Thermidor has appeared to have broken, at least partially, the left, but to what left? Rather than any radical change, it appears we are in a state of kicking the can down the road yet again. Of course such a state of affairs can’t continue forever, but I’m skeptical of your estimated timeline for how this will shake out.

Jim says:

> When I look at the current state of the left today, there is much fragmentation.

The fragmentation is that USAID got couped, and Schumer is outflanked on the left.

These things always sort out in favor of the leftmost. The leftmost was the most jabbed and boosted. Then it was the most transexual. Now it is the most in favor of killing fascists.

By the way, I have noticed a major permanent decline in job performance among the jabbed, noticeable at all intellectual levels of job. There was a partial recovery, but it seems to have plateaued out,

Pax Imperialis says:

The AOC and Mamdani types outflanking Schumer are going to run into problems scaling power outside big blue cities, and as the left continues to swim left, they continue to shed the less left. They’re at the point where they’re losing even the brain damaged like Fetterman. Demographics are not on their side either. The gen Z “kids” are not alt-right, but they have grown up in the wake of the alt-right millennials. Every sacred cow gets slaughtered in their day to day banter (really, I wish I could record and post the shit 18 year old Lance Corporals say). There has been a vibe shift and everyone feels it, which just exacerbates the frustration at Trump for being 1992 brained as some here would put it.

The USAID coup was major, but I think, I hope, that it was just a surface level coup and that what we’re seeing is a lot more knockoff effects of leftist power being fragmented by a thousand cuts. Department of Education, it has been announced, is being dismantled. Just the latest in a long string of Federal employee dismissals.

The left most part of the party is still going to be a problem, but they still have to remove the “moderates” or browbeat them into submission, in most cases outright replace them, and rebuild their deep state, and that takes time. Probably a good ten years if they’re not counteracted at all, and that leaves some time for MAGA to get their shit together. Not saying it’s all roses and shit, but you’ve been consistently working on a clock that has been right but fast. You’re out OODA looping everyone in a country that has been in cognitive decline for generations, and as you’ve pointed out, in a recent sharp decline from mRNA. Most are just not thinking that fast or far ahead, especially in the halls of power (I wish I could record and post the shit my senior officers say).

Dolfin says:

Once upon a time, there used to be a commenter here who disagreed with Jim

Many such cases. Gee, I wonder where they all went?

Unorganised violence does not work.

Guerrilla warfare was used successfully in the American Revolution, for example. The key is to have a common enemy, which the left does: they hate anything successful or superior.

Leftist violence succeeds because there is always a commander in chief.

So, who would that be? Schumer? Soros? Nuland? Fink? Satan itself?
Who wears the biggest tiny hat?

It is centralised, in that ground work and logistics are prepared years in advance, as for example Soros prosecutors.

As a crypto developer, you of all people should know that the collective pursuit of an agreed-upon roadmap/agenda does not imply centralization.

Mossadnik says:

> Many such cases. Gee, I wonder where they all went?

Presumably, hiding from the Grand Inquisitor.

SkipRamen says:

Leftism in EU is more cultural, having plastered over things for longer, but is now organized via crap like WEF/WHO/ICC/Climate, EU itself, etc.

Leftism in US is more “spontaneous”… lots of disparate groups claiming Lefter-than-Leftism Holiness. However they are also 100% astroturfed and financially controlled by much larger supporting Dark Entities, who then roll them up into the larger conglomerate under Red-Green banner of SocMarxIslam.
Evidenced by recent Funding Leaks and NGO Trackers.

The EU might not see any genuine change until the White Christian types there get so close to the brink with Islam that they start bombing out their Leftist Politicians like the IRA. But since Catholicism was intentionally Gay’d out by the GloboHomo, they might lack structure to do so effectively, at least until it starts and gets rolling.

The US has always had small spontaneous rebellions by the “Right/Freedom/Liberty”, but they won’t win until someone is ready to stand up, declare themselves *King* and Leader, bring more Militia and Masses of Lingering Liberty and Old-Type 1776/1800’s Americanism Feel online into it, and get the job done.

Russia kindof experienced a failure mode there… the Kings/Tsars got fully SocComMarx Colour Revoluted and completely wiped out, Leftist-Communism for 60 years. Then the “Right” sort of revolted via the Oligarchs, but no one went through the trials of declaring themselves King during, nor was anyone able to establish proper Kingship/Monarchy/Autocracy/whatever after… so you kindof got this Putin thing which as a formal position hasn’t yet made it to Tsar/King.

Needs to be many more Kings/Monarchs/Autocrats/CEOs/Theocracy/Boards/Whatever in the world, to allow for experimentation on Success, because Democracy/Socialism/etc always devolves into Least Common Denominator appeasement/aims and failure topped by an Uber Elite class of Criminal Pols who are just distributed enough that you can’t easily kill them all off before they respawn on you.

Mossadnik says:

> Needs to be many more Kings/Monarchs/Autocrats/CEOs/Theocracy/Boards/Whatever in the world

Principally I agree with the conceptualization of Exit over Voice (“E > V”), and certainly not emotionally invested in universal franchise. However, engineer-types tend to be way too rigid in their top-down models of social transformation, leading to ideological tunnel vision. Again the question is begged: if power is upstream of culture, what is upstream of power? And if you answer “Virtue,” well then, Virtue doesn’t fall from the sky – it’s evolved and acquired. “Top-down” is broadly correct, but it’s limited. It seems that NRx has lost sight of this Reality, because trapped in a Model; it ends up overemphasizing power dynamics and underemphaszing the necessity of possessing virtue, the latter generally emerging from the bottom up, as an evolutionary process. Hence me saying that I’m a partial Yarvinist, but not a full-on one.

The key word here is exactly “experimentation.” For which Judges-era Israel is preferable to Kings-era Israel.

Jim says:

> if power is upstream of culture, what is upstream of power?

A tiny group united by a faith. The Bolshevik seizure of power illustrates this in a nutshell.

Mossadnik says:

Indeed – the Slavs have always been ruled by one group or another of Germans, Swedes, or Jews, because the more competent always rule the less competent. Said “competence” doesn’t just magically appear when the group seizes power; it precedes (& is a prerequisite for) the seizure of power.

ChefRobar says:

> Culture Power Virtue

Virtue has always seemed to be a bit of falsity, full of narrows, particulars, postulation, and whims of the day.

What is “above” those seems to be a workable Faith, underlaid by Survival. And above those, a Greater Intangible which is unknown, undescribeable, but universally felt.

One question is…
Say average lifetime is 70yr.
And one has witnessed a destruction of their Faith/Civ within a 35yr half-life.
And given the big extant “faiths” wane and peak over 100-1000 of years, but some simply fade out forever.
Is it reasonable to assume that a big extant “faith” that has waned is capable of being restored in the remaining 35yr to enjoy it at 70 similar to as it was before?
Or must some other “temporary faith” become the just-in-time restorative agent?
Or must a new “faith” come to replace the faded, ie, were those that fade somehow invalidated, or just waylaid by some form of “evil”?

Alf says:

Virtue and faith are inextricably intertwined. Faith determines that which is good, that which is virtuous.

Christianity will survive with or without us. Man has a very bad habit of giving into short-term sin, giving up his long-term right. Even if our current civilisation ends in destruction, it is faith that instructs us that it is virtuous to not give up our long-term right. The future belongs to those who show up. Christians will keep showing up.

But Jim has created something that might very well avert the destruction of civilisation. Christianity doesn’t need to just survive – it may win.

Jim says:

> virtue has always seemed to be a bit of falsity, full of narrows, particulars, postulation, and whims of the day.

When a faith is in power, it tends to be corrupted, pursuing show virtues, rather than real virtue. This then degenerates into leftism. We saw this happen in Christianity and Islam several times.

But real virtue is what it is. How do we select virtuous people to positions where they influence the next generation, and build consensus around virtue?

The Pauline criteria work. You detect real virtue by a mans relationships with those that know him best — family. You select for the ordinary virtues that a man exhibits in his ordinary everyday life. Build a priesthood on the Pauline criteria, put tanks in Harvard, and then install a virtuous professoriat.

Mossadnik says:

> Christianity doesn’t need to just survive – it may win.

Agreed. A Real Christian should strive with all his heart, might, soul, and brainpower to ensure that it triumphs.

SkipRamen says:

That was one of the benefits of Kings, the People, and everyone else, knew exactly where to go and what to do if the King was doing a bad job… Siege for redress, or Storm to take, the Castle. Simple, fast, done.

Democracy was intentionally designed by Leftism to be easy to Corrupt and hard to Kill, no one knows where to go or what to do… 100’s of heads of State, distributed all across your land, all respawning via “Elections” when you manage to remove one of them for doing what the entirety of them are still continuing to do bad.

“Democracy” in the “West” was at least reasonably Old/Trad Type and thus ok up until 1989, from there on it turned downhill, taking a drastic dive ever since about 2000.

Some blame this massive turning on the advent of the Internet.
An interesting hypothesis.

Mossadnik says:

> That was one of the benefits of Kings, the People, and everyone else, knew exactly where to go and what to do if the King was doing a bad job… Siege for redress, or Storm to take, the Castle. Simple, fast, done.

In Yarvinism (classic NRx theory), power is absolutely secure from the People – the more secure, the better. That doesn’t quite sound like what you’re describing right here.

SkipRamen says:

> competence … power … kings

On the long timespan of DNA, such as the fact that the White species became, and are, obviously more developed, civilized, intelligent, and so on than the Black/Brown species… then that “competence” begets a natural power, which should be appreciated for what it is, and over such timescales.

In those long senses, such natural powers are “absolutely secure” from the people, so to speak.

In the sense of a specific King (a short term affair), the “more secure” term might apply better to that, rather than “absolutely secure”.

Or that power is “absolutely secure” so long as it is deemed true/just/whatever, in particular by those who might otherwise oppose it, such as princes, upstarts, or the people.

Or that power, unless of the long sense above, is more of a derived thing, can’t remain in one spot, because humans die, churning it, so can’t really retain its “absolute” peg like that.

There’s also a difference between dynamically stable and unstable power.

What qualities have the “Good Kings” who attained reign and died of old age while still on the throne posessed?
What were those who supported the King’s rise wanting?
How did the King-to-be maneuver?

That might give some view of the future.

Mossadnik says:

> If he fucked up, he’s going to have to do a lot of talking seeking political and personal repentence and forgiveness.

Speaking of repentance – I know for a fact that it’s possible for many leftists to become former-leftists. Exorcisms, individual or collective, do occur. In my own country, it is likely that many former-leftists will soon join together with never-leftists in a “political” (religious) coalition, and at least attempt to prevent the collapse of the state at the hands of the Ultra-Orthodox.

If that fails to successfully materialize, then it’s time to pack the bags and, as Iron Maiden might say, run to the hills.

Anon says:

everyone seem to be under normality , they are thinking about what happen after trump , MTG was just in cnn talking about “political toxicity” trying to make “amend” with the left.
problem ; everyone are getting the guillotine if the left win.

IGnatius T Foobar says:

Conservatives are peaceful and moral, which unfortunately does not work in this zero sum game. If the left is not annihilated, they WILL annihilate the right the next time they are in power.

notglowing says:

MTG is no good.

There’s clips from a month ago of her saying deportations are not “realistic” and too cruel, and tweets from Dec 2024 where she says she’s pro H1B.
Moreover, her reaction to Trump primarying her is indistinguishable from a libtard woman. She’s saying she knows how “Epstein’s victims” felt, given “powerful men” are against her and how she’s in danger of violence due to Trump now.

She’s doing the same thing Massie did, both of them have terrible policies in almost everything, but use one marginal issue in order to drive a wedge between Trump and his supporters.

I don’t like that Tucker is being attacked the way he is, and for the reasons he is, but he’s not being very helpful to MAGA either at the moment

Jim says:

Yes, Massie and MTG are duplicitously and cynically using these wedge issues, but the problem is that these wedge issues exist.

And Tucker is not duplicitously using these wedge issues, and they are still after his head also.

Plus, something very bad has happened on X. The old shadow censorship regime is suddenly up an running again, and what empowered it was Musk saying “hate”, when he should have said “antifa, black lives matter, trantifa, everyone justifying the the murder of rightists, and everyone who flings the word fascist around.”

Pax Imperialis says:

What in the world is Musk thinking? He should know better than anyone else the left wants his head on a platter.

Jim says:

What has Tucker done that is unhelpful to Maga? Don’t give me recycled neocon attacks on Tucker from Israel firsters and the Jews uber cattle brigade, give me a link to a Tucker video and a video time. I am as sick of Jewish anti white racism as I am sick of nigger anti white racism.

Easter has been criminalised as anti semitic. I am very sick of this.

notglowing says:

Not a fan of Israel and jew firsters either. The Israel support is an unfortunate piece of baggage that the Trump administration and the Republican party have, and it would be best if they shed it. At the same time it is a pragmatic political compromise on Trump’s side at the moment, and I can’t agree with people who say Trump is controlled by Israel and everything is about Israel either. A significant percentage of Trump’s own voters are disturbingly obsessed with the country. Trump himself hasn’t done everything Israel wanted of him, either.

Tucker isn’t an evil man or inherently an enemy. But Tucker has been getting closer to (and hosted) people like Nick Fuentes, who along with his followers is guilty of this monocausal jew/Israel nonsense where Trump is just a jewish puppet and everyone in the maga movement is a jewish puppet and believes the republican party and Trump are pointless and deserve to lose.

This is what triggered a lot of negative attention from the pro Israel shills, who are themselves a problem. It’s a lose-lose situation.

I was hoping that with the peace deals, the Israel problem could be ignored for a while and talk could shift to more productive issues, like deportations and H1-Bs and destroying the left. But evidently that would’ve been too convenient.

Jim says:

But Tucker has been getting closer to (and hosted) people like Nick Fuentes.

You have to be willing to talk to everyone. If you will not talk to someone, you have to destroy them, or they have to destroy you. If you will not talk to Fuentes, you are going to have to eradicate the white race, starting with its youth, and eradicate Christianity.

Fuentes is the voice of some legitimate gripes, which Maga is ignoring and suppressing — I am not guilty of Nick Fuentes JooJooJoo monomania, but is seems that only he and I are objecting that Easter has been suppressed as antisemitism, and that Israel forever seeks to draw America into pointless stupid wars that are none of our business, that whites are the lowest caste of Americans, suffering every form of discrimination and oppression, and forever being expelled from the cities we have built, that in their zeal to destroy whites, they are destroying the American economy.

Refusing to talk to Fuentes is a very poor substitute for address the complaints of which he is the voice.

Jews, Blacks and dot Indians are organised as ethnic groups to advance their ethnicity at the expense of other ethnicities. So you have to allow whites to do the same, or else come down like the wrath of God on black, Jewish, and dot Indian racial preferences.

notglowing says:

Fuentes used to be someone who made fun of the exact person he is now. I wonder what happened to him. When I followed him from 2018-2021, he decried the “monocausal Jewish explanation” some people on the right had, and had very reasonable and constructive takes on this and other things. The way he spoke and presented himself seemed to be aimed at getting good right wing ideas across to as many reasonable people as possible.

After I stopped watching his show, he came with all sorts of absurd takes, decided to support Kanye’s bid for presidency, and defined himself as more and more anti-Trump and anti-MAGA over time. Now his followers simply call everyone Jewish on X.
He used to be an effective and charismatic political “pundit” but now he’s put himself in a position where he won’t be able to achieve anything and makes “antisemites” (ie, anyone who is against jewish power) look dumb.
His ego is now invested in being against what he considers to be the right wing establishment, and so he cannot do anything but try and be an obstacle to Trump and his allies. The fact that he channels legitimate grievances is all the worse for those grievances. Hence I call it a lose-lose situation. A rock and a hard place.

SkipRamen says:

> fuentes … tucker … trump

Here is Trump’s current comment on those two
https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1990213111761207538

Not familiar with the Jewish thing (?) re Easter, but accept that it may exist, whatever it is.
Am familiar with the Islamic thing re Easter, and that it seems to be a conveniently manufactured falsity against what the Bible plainly said beforehand.
Many unique faiths/ideologies given/developed in parallel and unbeknownst to each other, this happens in prehistoric old times of quite low mobility.
But how anyone in history, in mobile times, can come along claiming to be in line with one (or two), after that one (or two) had already patently defined and witnessed that 2+2=4, and then try to claim that 2+2=5, this I do not know.

notglowing says:

Good reaction to this from Trump

f6187 says:

A few people like Tucker, Dave Smith, Fuentes, MTG, and Massie have pushed back against what passes for “MAGA” lately. They say things like:

– stop funding the Israeli government
– stop excusing Israeli excesses in Gaza
– stop bowing to AIPAC influence
– stop mass importing foreign workers to replace lazy and stupid Americans
– stop concealing the Epstein scandal

In response, Twitter, Trump, Levin, Shapiro, Fine, and a whole bunch of MAGA republicans and Christians have erupted and turned into the “cat versus pointing ladies” meme.

Now MTG is a “traitor” and Tucker is “the most dangerous antisemite in America” and Fuentes “wants to kill all Jews” and Massie is a cad for remarrying after 18 months as a widower and any Christian who doesn’t “support” the Israeli *government* (of all people) is going to hell.

It’s all so painfully juvenile. It’s as if there is some secret cabal poised to steal, kill, and destroy anyone with a modicum of sense. I am of course referring to the Jesuits.

Mossadnik says:

Uh oh, looks like someone really didn’t like my pivot on the WQ.

I’m not wrong though. There really is no need to go full-retard on any subject. (In fact, I sincerely regret a significant proportion of my shitposts – about killing niggers, killing this, killing that.) And if someone fell for it and decided to make a religion out of it, my condolences. It was never my intention.

And if you hate it that much, I really don’t have to post here, bruh. I might start my own blog where hopefully 80% of commenters won’t be Alts, for instance. Or do something else other than shitposting, as the Archbishop suggested in the other thread.

f6187 says:

Mossadnik:

Uh oh, looks like someone really didn’t like my pivot on the WQ.

That seems unrelated to what I wrote, but HELLO Uncle Leo, I enjoy your posts and your pivot. The slogan “make women property again” is not good branding, pun intended. Women love feeling owned, and they want to feel swept into it by forces beyond their control, with a sensation like falling into a neutron star. If that feeling dissipates, or if they begin to drift into a new orbit, they will test you.

Jim said that Fuentes signals “I hate women more than you do.” Not really. Nick clarified this: “I don’t hate women. I love women. They’re nice. They’re pleasant to be around. I hate bitches.” Thanks for clearing that up Nick.

In the beginning, God created female nature on purpose and for a purpose, and behold, it was very good. But when it goes wrong, it goes horribly wrong, and here we are.

But take heart! More young women are surveying the wreckage and declaring “This is not the way.” More fathers are helping their daughters avoid decades wasted in the wilderness, bitten unmercifully by vipers.

I have at least TEN (!) anecdotes to support this, including direct conversations which reveal conscious awareness and intent. How’s THAT for evidence? Yes, I travel in brightly lit Christian circles which do not reflect broad trends, but I remain a prisoner of hope. Very few will walk the narrow path anyway, so I’m not too worried about it George.

Daddy Scarebucks says:

they say things like:

– stop funding the Israeli government
– stop excusing Israeli excesses in Gaza
– stop bowing to AIPAC influence
– stop mass importing foreign workers to replace lazy and stupid Americans
– stop concealing the Epstein scandal

A fair selection, and it’s precisely this combination that makes me suspicious of them. It is first of all a mix of serious, mostly clear-cut issues with subjective or frivolous wedge issues, combined with a misleading frame and an insistence on all or nothing.

Let’s take the first one: “stop funding the Israeli government”. Presumably we mean foreign aid. OK, but why Israel and only Israel? That isn’t an “isolationist” or “anti-imperial” position. The anti-imperial position would be to stop funding all foreign nations or at least stop all funding to the middle-east region, and that includes Saudi Arabia and Qatar, who each receive higher funding every year, and yet, you never hear them mention those names. I wonder why?

“Stop excusing Israeli excesses in Gaza”. I think Jim has covered this much greater length. Israel sincerely believes their war in and around Gaza is existential, as Russia sincerely believes their war in and around Ukraine is existential. “Excusing” is misleading frame; war is hell, and if one side creates a situation that would reasonably be perceived by the other side as “win or die”, then there is going to be war. And as above, this demand is not a Nationalist position; the Nationalist position would be “this war is none of our business and I’m not interested in taking sides”, or perhaps asking the question “whose victory, if any, is going to benefit America?”

“Stop bowing to AIPAC influence”, again shows monomania. Yes, we should, but (a) what is the relevance to recent events and (b) why only AIPAC and not a thousand other PACs and NGOs? Corollary, imagine if I were to relentlessly promote the position that “women should not be taking gender studies in college”. That is probably not very controversial, and yet, framing it that way would be dishonest, because it obscures the question of whether women should be in college at all, and implies that maybe they should all be in some other track, like STEM, i.e. that we should give the left everything they want.

This is how I perceive the focus on AIPAC and Zionists; we’re having a normal conversation, and somebody is shouting “look, squirrel!”, and in fact, there really IS a squirrel, but so what? Foreign nation sends foreign lobbyists to try to influence foreign policy; News At Eleven.

Mass immigration is a totally legitimate and also totally unrelated issue that I think the groypers just throw in there to sound like the Voice of the Common Man.

And as for the Epstein files, I really couldn’t care less anymore. Release them, don’t release them, whatever, it would just be the same crap as always, with no names named and all the interesting details redacted. We already know everything important there is to know about Epstein’s honeypot operation; it is primarily the left banging on that drum now, projectionists that they are, feeling absolutely certain that there is going to be something damaging on Trump in there, despite the fact that Democrats have had access to this information for years, and impeached Trump three times and tried to murder him twice, and aren’t afraid of strategic leaks or even outright fraud, therefore would absolutely have used any kompromat on Trump if it existed.

You put it all together and, sure, while it kind of sounds like a loosely-organized list of legitimate grievances against Jews and/or the Israel Lobby affecting normal white guys, in fact it far better matches the profile of the Prog-Islamist alliance that’s ascendant in left-wing academia.

I look at Fuentes and the groypers and I see enemy entryists, or dupes at best. They claim to hate Con Inc and the Ben Shapiro and Jonah Goldberg types, which is totally 100% justified, but they also hate Trump, hate Vance, hate Musk, hate MAGA, promote garbage like Candace Owens and Kanye West, and when one of us calls them out on their bullshit, they say: “look, squirrel Israel!”

I’m just not buying the act. And maybe someone like Tucker, being a public personality, has no choice but to accept or at least acknowledge their framing, because the audience is fickle. But that doesn’t mean Fuentes and the groyper clan are actually grassroots; they’re as fake and fraudulent as anything else in American politics right now.

Jim says:

> Let’s take the first one: “stop funding the Israeli government”. Presumably we mean foreign aid. OK, but why Israel and only Israel? That isn’t an “isolationist” or “anti-imperial” position.

The people that say stop aiding the Israeli government also say stop aiding the Ukrainian government. That is a consistent position opposed to far away wars that a none of our business. They don’t call themselves anti imperial. They are quite enthusiastically imperial close to home. They call themselves “America First”, they are pro American, not anti imperial. They rightly think that the Ukraine war and the Gaza war are anti American.

They don’t want to conquer the world — but would rather like to reconquer the Panama canal.

“Stop excusing Israeli excesses in Gaza”. I think Jim has covered this much greater length. Israel sincerely believes their war in and around Gaza is existential, as Russia sincerely believes their war in and around Ukraine is existential.

Yet Russia and Russians are disturbed and profoundly upset by the necessity to do terrible things, even though the things they are doing are nowhere near as terrible as Israel’s, while Israel is all gung ho about debumanizing the enemy. The enemy including both Palestinians and America Firsters. The Russians may be killing a lot of Ukrainians, but they know they are killing people, killing humans. Israel firsters don’t see Palestianians as human, and do not see us as human. They see us as all genetically and inherently guilty of Nazi Hitler Hitler Nazi RussiaRussiaRussia Hitler Nazi Sixmillion gas chambers Nazi Nazi Putin Nazi Putler.

You have to fight a war to win it, and often this means you must do terrible things and threaten worse things, but you need to know you are doing terrible things and threatening worse things, or else you can never make peace, except by total extermination of all enemies, and Israel sees itself as having a very very long list of enemies, with Maga now on that list.

> “Stop bowing to AIPAC influence”, again shows monomania. Yes, we should, but (a) what is the relevance to recent events and (b) why only AIPAC and not a thousand other PACs and NGOs?

That Aipac wants to cancel us, deplatform us, and demonetize us, and is actually have some prospect of successfully doing so, while USAID and the rest of them were crushed by Musk.

The Cominator says:

Except people who often speak of Israel I find rarely or ever speak of Ukraine, and get very angry with you if you dare say that Ukraine is worse than Israel.

Jim says:

> people who often speak of Israel I find rarely or ever speak of Ukraine,

The people screaming “Nazi Hitler Hitler Nazi Nazi” are also screaming “Russia Russia Russia Putin six million gas chambers Putler”.

And when they see Easter they scream “antisemite”

Yes, Nick Fuentes has Jews on the brain. Tucker does not, and neither do ninety nine of the last hundred people to be called Nazis in the last few hours.

Jim says:

> mostly clear-cut issues with subjective or frivolous wedge issues

The trouble is that no one can talk about these issues without a bunch of Jews going “Nazi Hitler Hitler Hitler Hitler Russia Russia Russia Nazi Hitler Putin Russia Nazi six million gas chambers”

Without a bunch of Jews calling on their buddies in the left to finish the job and murder Maga.

Hey, I am not comfortable to be on the same side as Nick Fuentes, but I would rather be on his side than the side of a screaming mob of Jews calling for the censorship, silencing, and murder of rightists such as Tucker.

These guys banned Easter and are calling for the murder of the core elements of Maga.

Jim says:

> – stop funding the Israeli government
> – stop excusing Israeli excesses in Gaza
> – stop bowing to AIPAC influence

As Daddy Scarebucks said “Look, a squirrel”

> – stop mass importing foreign workers to replace lazy and stupid Americans

The $100 000 H1B fee takes care of that.

> – stop concealing the Epstein scandal

The reason the Epstein scandal is a scandal is an unreasonably high age of consent. There should not be any age of consent, because women are incapable of consent at any age.

And now Trump has finally released the Epstein files.

SkipRamen says:

Problem with most US pundits/analysts/podcasts/media/agents is they take the side of one Anti over the others, or disavow one Anti while being silent on the others, be it the Jew/Islam/Left/InfiNigger/Woman/etc… when they should simply disavow ALL of them.

“AmericaFirst” simply cannot code for any of that crap, otherwise there won’t be an “America” any longer… in 50 years absolutely no one will look at the US and say “Yo Muhammad/Yi/Mfasa/Suresh let’s all move there” because it will be a shithole. They’ll all be looking at some place better.

AF needs to code for 1492-1776-1830-1989 Old-type White-type even Christian-type America… shining on a hill, inaccessible to all.
Hard cap the permanent internal demographics to under 5%, composed soley of men and women of Good Will who agree to leave all their language culture Islam and other exclusive superiority dual-loyalty bullshit at the door, fully integrate, and become Americans. You probably don’t even need that much to keep DNA fresh and survivable long term.

You can’t Import and allow Anti and non-integrating shit to remain in your Lands if you expect to survive… else your lands will devolve into a warring shithole.

Racism and Theologism and Separation is encoded into DNA for a reason.

It’s not time to deny it, but to admit, cherish, embrace, and follow it.

At least that way when you do have to go to war, it will be across borders, and you won’t have wonder if the Men and Generals behind you have got your back.

This type of stuff applies to all countries/peoples that want to survive, as history shows that once you let things go too far, you’re dead… either in a useless fallen hopeless unrecoverable blender of shithole (rare, unspoken wars), or via constant internal wars between races (common, hot wars).

Mossadnik says:

Since we’re in the mood for re-evaluating everything, let me bring something up:

When I go around my area of Tel Aviv, I see plenty of secular and traditional (not particularly religious) families walking around with lots of young children. One knows for certain that both husband and wife fucked (and fucked and fucked) around with lots of partners before settling down and having those children.

Then I look at Arab society, where often women are still married off as virgins, and what do you know – they are in reproductive failure.

Now Jim says that it’s because Israel enforces marriage for Jews and doesn’t enforce it for non-Jews. My response: HAHAHAHAHA what a load of bullshit. There is no such thing. In fact, Arabs are pretty much allowed to practice old-type patriarchy. Still many fail to reproduce above replacement. They get married young, but proceed to have 1-2 children.

Are we sure that “Make Women Property Again” is the real solution to declining fertility, and not other, perhaps more delicate (and more efficient) means and measures?

Alf says:

Afghanistan tfr: 4.43
Israel tfr: 2.92

What Arabs are you talking about specifically? Islam isn’t doing all too well in many places, which is to say, is in many ways as vulnerable to decadence and corruption as Christianity, if not more so. Saudi Arabia tfr equals 1.87, the downward slope aligning with the rising trend of feminism.

There’s many ways in which show virtue overtakes real virtue and this can be true for (Islamic) patriarchy too. Some men will make a big show of how they dominate their women, precisely because they don’t. Perhaps you are seeing these Arabs?

Mossadnik says:

Alf,

The retarded Alt-Right told you that “Israel is a homogeneous ethno-state.”

Israel is 21% Arab. Israeli Jews out-breed Israeli Arabs, and not just because of the Ultra-Orthodox who breed like rats.

Just went to work in Tel Aviv. Lots of young children on the way, from all kinds of backgrounds. Tel Aviv is the center of secularism and faggotry.

Am I to deny my own eyes?

Alf says:

Say those Arabs are at 1.5 tfr.

Jew tfr * .79 + 1.5 * .21 = 2.92
Solve for Jew tfr equals (2.92 – 1.5*.21)/.79 = 3.3.

Still losing to the Afghans.

But hey, forgetting about the abstract statistics. You are indeed not to deny your own eyes. So, investigate. Are you talking to these ‘secular Jews with many children’? What do they tell you when you insinuate that woman is man’s rightful property? In all my own observation and investigation, I have found Jim’s hypothesis to be 100% true.

Mossadnik says:

> What do they tell you when you insinuate that woman is man’s rightful property?

My own building is full of secular/traditional (not mega religious) Jews with about 2-3 children per family, sometimes 4.

If I, a divorced nutcase not raising my own son, told them that “If you want to have children, you need to make women property,” they would indeed not look at me very kindly.

And rightly so.

Alf says:

I too am in an environment of families with about 2-3 children per family, sometimes 4.

If I were to tell them, literally, “If you want to have children, you need to make women property,” they would also look at me not very kindly. But if I insinuate, they understand, in the sense that when you spend time with them, becomes very obvious that they behave in ways that frame the woman as being naturally subservient to the man, even if they are not completely aware of this dynamic themselves. To many of them this is simply an unprincipled exception that has carried over from their Christian ancestry.

With these Christian families though, still a downward slope. 3 children is above replacement rate, but they all tend to hail from families with double that amount.

To what extent this explanation carries over to Israel, I don’t know. Perhaps they too carry over the unprincipled exception of their Jewish ancestors? Perhaps perpetual war moistens the ladies and drives them into the arms of men?

Mossadnik says:

Alf,

I’m not arguing “against patriarchy” or some such.

I’m arguing against sperg-incel internet bullshit that I myself was instrumental in pushing. And I contend that raising fertility will not necessarily involve some of the measures discussed here, but perhaps other measures.

“ABOLISH ALL FEMALE MATE CHOICE!!!!111!!!” for instance is bullshit. You don’t actually need to copy Afghanistan in order to be fertile.

Around me, fertility is the norm, not the exception. I myself am the exception, Alf. I’m a nutcase. But I’m sane enough to recognize my own insanity.

Jim says:

> “ABOLISH ALL FEMALE MATE CHOICE!!!!111!!!” for instance is bullshit. You don’t actually need to copy Afghanistan in order to be fertile.

Indeed you don’t. The 1950s did not abolish all female mate choice. But they abolished moment to moment mate choice. The idea of marital rape was simply inconceivable. When feminists introduced the term in the sixties no one could comprehend what they were talking about. And spinning plates was not a thing, for no matter how men tried, women were not allowed to let themselves be spun.

And female mate choice in the 1950s was considerably less in reality than it was formally, for shotgun marriage was a thing. If men were forcefully discouraged from banging and moving on,women were far more forcefully discouraged. And women were prevented and restrained from having a vast menu of alpha males to choose from, for it was difficult to meet boys except through family.

The Cominator says:

You don’t have to necessarily be Afghanistan (though what they do works) but you need to abolish the right of women to stay single past a certain age. And probably the most efficient way once you overcome the problem of social democracy is just abolishing female mate choice, arranged marriages and failing that bridal auctions.

Don’t revert to jewish pro matriarchy form now…

Mossadnik says:

> Don’t revert to jewish pro matriarchy form now…

Of course not. That seems to be the norm among American Jews, not among Israeli Jews. Many of our women are actually feminine. My own Jewish mother is nothing like the intolerable cunts you describe.

Alf says:

“ABOLISH ALL FEMALE MATE CHOICE!!!!111!!!” for instance is bullshit.

Then what do you propose?

I’ll be the first to admit that real life tends to be a lot softer around the edges than the rather direct, forceful language deployed here. I bet that if any woman would get to know Jim through this blog and afterwards meet him, her first impression would be: ‘huh, he’s actually a lot friendlier than I imagined’.

But that is mostly a limitation of language, not intent. There seems to me absolutely nothing wrong with the proposition that, insofar a woman has a choice, it ought to be a choice between suitors pre-approved by her father. That might not be the way it will work for everyone, but that is how it worked out for the white elite for centuries.

The Cominator says:

There are some nice jewish women here too but they tend to morph into domineering Babushkas past their fertile years.

Mossadnik says:

Consider East-Asia.

Is the problem there (primarily) the result of female mate choice, or something else? I gather that fertility there has been shit for a while, despite marriage being prevalent and common, and in fact households being at least somewhat patriarchal. That is – people do get married, or at least used to, and do maintain some traditional sex roles, but then still fail to have many children. Like the Arabs here.

I’m not sure that online incelism is the answer to declining fertility. Sorry for anyone who “fell for it.”

Alf says:

100% the result of female emancipation. Decreasing birth rates, decreasing marriage rates, increasing feminism, all across Asia.

Women are excellent at domming from the bottom. If men don’t ocassionally call them out on that, women will no longer carry their children. Thus a society can from the outside seem to have reasonably traditional marriages, but from the inside the rot has set in. See also: boomers.

Mossadnik says:

What I propose is to seriously reflect on the subject, rather than adopt a worldview that is convenient – but not necessarily true.

Look even at many places in Europe. Inceldom may be a problem there now, but fertility would be crap — was in fact crap — even with most people getting married and maintaining some traditional sex roles. Why is it?

“Just abolish female mate choice” does not seem to be the key issue. It’s something else, in my honest assessment.

Now, if you switch from focusing on female mate choice to female emancipation in general, that makes somewhat more sense. Feminism was obviously a mistake. But I’m not sure that we have figured out the correct solutions here. I am sure that I live in a fertile society, which doesn’t resemble Afghanistan one bit.

Mossadnik says:

By the way, among Ultra-Orthodox Jews, it’s often the women who go to work, rather than the men.

And among moderately religious Jews, who have 4-5 kids, usually both husband and wife work. So “just send them back to the kitchen” is probably also not the correct answer. (Not that I’m against doing it – female jobs are often total bullshit.)

If you want to succeed, need to get serious about these subjects. Incel-sperging is not very serious. I’m sorry.

Alf says:

Now, if you switch from focusing on female mate choice to female emancipation in general, that makes somewhat more sense.

Of course, these are all connected. A dozen names for the same core concept. Call it emancipation, female mate choice, breakdown of patriarchy, female empowerment, teaching 12-year old girls to pull condoms over bananas — does not matter. All points to the same core concept: that women shit-test men, and if men fail to pass said shit-test at a societal level, breakdown ensues.

Obviously there’s different flavors in passing shit-tests. Afghanistan is a very particular one, not my favorite either. But all of them will share the same core solution: a faith that puts women back in their proper place, thus promoting male passing of female shit-tests.

Mossadnik says:

> But all of them will share the same core solution: a faith that puts women back in their proper place

With that I absolutely 100% agree.

The Cominator says:

Isn’t Israeli fertility mostly among the ultra religious jews (who collect welfare, don’t work, don’t serve in the military and of course they oppress their women)…

Now I have argued with Jim that Japanese fertility probably has more to do with extreme urbanization than feminism per se. Despite the recent female leader they got everything I’ve read on Japan has said that at least until very recently (and I’m not sure) Japan is the least feminist place in the developed world.

Mossadnik says:

> Isn’t Israeli fertility mostly among the ultra religious jews

I really wouldn’t say it’s mostly among them. Yes, they do raise our TFR, on average. But I see families with young children all around me, who aren’t Haredim. The official statistics likewise confirm that most of Israeli Jewish society is fertile.

> Now I have argued with Jim that Japanese fertility probably has more to do with extreme urbanization than feminism per se. Despite the recent female leader they got everything I’ve read on Japan has said that at least until very recently (and I’m not sure) Japan is the least feminist place in the developed world.

Yep. There are so many factors involved in declining fertility that just are not strictly related to the WQ as such, and that will not be especially influenced by anything to do with the WQ as such.

The Cominator says:

I consider this unique to Japan… I understand that there are issues on top of the woman question* but its absurd to deny the woman question and if you had arranged marriage + bridal auctions after 20 you wouldn’t have to worry about it.

* ie one reason zoomer sex numbers are the worst in history on top of all the feminism and online dating and shit which generally millenials also had to deal with to some degree is literally because vaping replaced smoking among young women, you used to be able to at least talk to a variety of younger good looking women in the smoking area and you had a lighter ready most women couldn’t help but be flattered by any guy rushing to light their cigarette and almost all young pretty women used to smoke at least “socially”. Smoking led to a lot of young women meeting a lot of men, vaping does not.

Mossadnik says:

> its absurd to deny the woman question

I absolutely do not deny it.

What I seek is to discuss the whole picture, rather than just laser-focus on this or that narrow aspect of the WQ as the “One True Solution.” No, it’s quite a complex issue, and if this blog seriously intends to SAVE HUMAN CIVILIZATION, then perhaps it’s about time to stop playing these incel/sperg troll games and actually examine our beliefs – all of them.

You can’t afford to hold a retarded worldview if you’re serious about a Restoration.

The Cominator says:

So what exactly is your beef with the prevailing view here. I quibble on minor points with Jim from time to time but I agree with the major points.

Jim from what I recall doesn’t think that semi Talibanesque (with more allowances to allow women to dress sexy sometimes) measures will come about through any normal political process and thinks even a man with theoretically absolute power would have trouble imposing such a measure by fiat on western society, he has said its more likely it will happen in war due to the breakdown of society we’re generally experiencing. Ie Solving the woman question is beyond coup complete but jihad complete… Some group starts treating women as booty and then every other group is forced to do the same.

Mossadnik says:

Consider the following.

There’s an element in our society called – “Religious Zionists.” First and foremost, those people are WARRIORS. Second of all, they are about 70% Ashkenazi and 30% Mizrahi; thus they possess the basis of an elite, and are indeed gradually becoming our new, right-wing elite. And, last but not least, their TFR is about 4-5.

See – this is something that actually works, right now, in the real world that exists. If you do a Christian Restoration inspired by and modeled after Religious Zionists, you’ll have rule-by-warriors (warriors who are also civilizationally competent, not “infinigger”), and high elite fertility.

They are Trad and Patriarchal. They are not at all similar to the Taliban as regards the WQ. Not even remotely.

Mayflower Sperg says:

Cities have always been population sinks. No people has ever exhibited natural population growth in cities — except Jews, with their genetic resistance to tuberculosis. This natural advantage got ridiculous at times; there were once 300,000 Jews in Warsaw alone!

Because of their long history of breeding in cities, Jews don’t have this mouse-utopia problem that afflicts all other races.

SkipRamen says:

> fertility/dating between countries?

Japanese fertility may be linked to certain innate cultural silly sex-play positivity resulting in many “Oopsie, somehow it just happened” pregnancies? Or not?
https://x.com/GoingParabolic/status/1990449653297594509
lol

Israeli fertility… How easy is it for the typical mid-aged American tourist to pick up a single female Israeli who might “Oops somehow a FWB just happened” for a few months?
If so, there are certainly some tourists who would then not hesitate to try putting that foreknowledge of statistical easyness into play.

ie: The old question of Marriage Tourism, or at least Relationship/Dating/FWB/Babymaking Tourism … not the question of where guys can go to just fuck some whore for one night like Amsterdam Brothel.

Or maybe the question of… What Country’s Men are sought purely for no-strings Babymaking by the CATLADIES of another Country???

There could be some win there for Men who simply want to raise their offspring count in a mutual no-strings fashion.

Is anyone maintaining a website collecting a country-by-country Matrix of cross-country ease-of-dating preference statistics these days?

Mossadnik says:

> Israeli fertility… How easy is it for the typical mid-aged American tourist to pick up a single female Israeli who might “Oops somehow a FWB just happened” for a few months?

Not impossible, if we’re talking about the usual hoe. However, I hypothesize that some of the anti-Israeli sentiment I witness online stems from tourists failing to pick up Israeli chicks for any length of time, our girls being, after all, on average substantially more religious and ethnocenric (no foreskin please) than what Americans are used to.

Dude, you’re advancing a shitty argument here, lol. And elsewhere too.

Mossadnik says:

> The 1950s did not abolish all female mate choice. But they abolished moment to moment mate choice. The idea of marital rape was simply inconceivable.

And I obviously agree that the oxymoron of “marital rape” needs to be discarded; no Christian (or other Trad) society should tolerate such demonic nonsense.

I’ve come around to the view that the social technology of the 1950s was actually pretty good and functional. That wasn’t my view back when I was a raging spazzing incel sperg, but it’s my view now, having matured past that juvenile stage.

Jim says:

> Am I to deny my own eyes?

Apply your eyes to Arab college educated women in Israel.

Arab women who get sucked into what Based Camp call “the Urban Monoculture” and I call “The Bubble” are not reproducing.

Mossadnik says:

Of course there’s a significant negative correlation between female “education” and fertility, whether among Jews or Arabs; I haven’t converted to Feminism, lol. But they do get married, for the most part. They just don’t have a lot of children nowadays. This seems to be a universal thing among married couples, which I blame on both Feminism-related factors (divorce, obviously) and non-Feminism-related factors.

Jim says:

> But they do get married, for the most part. They just don’t have a lot of children.

I find this very hard to believe — I don’t have data for Israeli Arabs, but what statistics show everywhere I can get them, and what my Mark one eyeballs show everywhere I go, is the fertility collapse is rising numbers of never married or very late married women — that women who marry at a reasonable age continue to have two or three children. Family size has stabilised. It is just that everywhere, fewer people have families. This shows up indirectly in statistics relevant to first born, and directly in single women statistics.

As I said. Apply your Mark One eyeballs to college educated Israeli Arab women.

Everywhere the problem is not that women are having fewer children, it is that increasing numbers of women are having no children. We have a plague of women on the single–>career girl –>crazy cat lady–> hag –>evil witch treadmill.

If find it improbable that Israeli Arabs are any different from the rest of the world that is suffering fertility collapse.

Back in the 1950s, women in America were discouraged from going to college. If they went to college, they generally did the courses sarcastically dubbed “marriage 101” — home making and good wife skills, and most importantly they went to women’s only college and were not allowed out, which meant they met boys by being introduced to them by family — formally female choice, but a girl with limited choice is going to jump the bones of the first eligible man she can, and then Dad breaks out the shotgun, so parental choice under female choice skinsuit.

You admit that Arab whore school girls have the same awful marriage rate as western whore school girls. Well, if Arab fertility in Israel is falling, how many Arab girls are going to whore school?

Mossadnik says:

> I find it improbable that Israeli Arabs are any different from the rest of the world that is suffering fertility collapse.

My impression is that having no children at all is quite rare among Arabs. It’s not even particularly common among secular Jews around here. (Even I reproduced.) But maybe I should further investigate the issue to reach a conclusion.

Jim says:

> My impression is that having no children at all is quite rare among Arabs

Is it? Yet a whole lot Arab daughters are going to whore school, which dumps them onto the single–>career woman–>crazy cat lady–>hag–>evil witch treadmill.

I suggest you need your mark one eyeballs re-examined. My Mark one eyeballs seem to suggest a whole lot of hags and evil witches in the Arab professoriat.

Jim says:

> It’s not even particularly common among secular Jews around here

That chronically single women are not common among secular Jews in Israel is precisely the reason Israeli fertility is holding up better than most of the world.

Fertility collapse is everywhere a problem of incel men and childless cat ladies with the hundred cock stare, which hundred cock stare slowly and gradually transitions into the face of the evil witch who continually attempts to cast curses on everyone.

Family size has stabilised at moderately above replacement everywhere. It is the number of families that is collapsing.

Mossadnik says:

> My Mark one eyeballs seem to suggest a whole lot of hags and evil witches in the Arab professoriat.

Obviously true. However, the leftist professoriat is not really representative of broader Arab society. Israeli Progressives may propagandize Arab women in academia, which indeed there are many, but older spinster Arab cat ladies are not common. They do mostly settle down with Uncle Ahmed from the village, albeit these days it happens in their mid twenties rather than their late teens. So it affects fertility, obviously. But it’s not the only factor.

Generally speaking, failure-to-marry altogether is globally a new phenomenon. What used to happen from 1960 to 2010 or so is that people married, but just did not have many children. Now marriage itself is also in decline globally. Not significantly in decline in Israel, though. Our TFR is actually on the rise.

Our TFR is healthy and on the rise, yet we don’t resemble Afghanistan at all. I… am sorry for sperging out about this issue the way I did all these years. Jews have an annoying tendency to holiness spiral, so of course a horny Jewish incel would radicalize in this direction. But lately I’ve come to see the error of my ways, about this issue and about others as well.

Jim says:

> > My Mark one eyeballs seem to suggest a whole lot of hags and evil witches in the Arab professoriat.

> Obviously true. However, the leftist professoriat is not really representative of broader Arab society.

It is likely to be representative of girls that go to whore school. And a whole lot of Israeli Arab girls are going to whore school.

Which implies that Arabs are not in fact “free to practice patriarchy”. If they were free to practice patriarchy, Arab college education would resemble 1950s American college education.

> but older spinster Arab cat ladies are not common. They do mostly settle down with Uncle Ahmed from the village.

I find this hard to believe. Go to college, fuck one hundred men, develop the hundred cock stare, which stare stares right through Uncle Ahmed from the village and is unable to see him.

That is what is happening everywhere else in the world, that is the nature of women, that is who staffs the professoriat everywhere. And that is who staffs the professoriat in Arab Israel.

Maybe you can see Israeli Jewish society well enough but your perception of Israeli Arab society sounds to me like you see martians and big foot. I know what women are like.

If you send more girls than boys to whore school, you do not have patriarchy.

I don’t have stats for Arab sex and reproduction, and I do not have on the ground direct knowledge of Israeli Arab culture, but I do have stats for college. And this looks like the what Based Camp call “The Urban Monoculture”, and what I call “The Bubble”. Plus, I know the nature of women, and I find it very hard to believe that Israeli Arab women have a different nature.

Jim says:

> However, the leftist professoriat is not really representative of broader Arab society.

If broader Arab society is sending more girls to college than boys, is representative of broader Arab society.

Jim says:

There is a tremendous propaganda offensive against Islamic patriarchy, which propaganda offensive grotesquely and absurdly exaggerates how oppressive arab culture is towards women. It is as silly and outrageous as the reports that the Russians are suffering seven hundred bazillion casualties and their economy is collapsing.

For example, the Taliban supposedly forbids women from doing this thing, that thing, and the other thing, and it absolutely terrible, terrible, terrible.

Of course very little of that is true. What the Taliban forbids is women wandering off from dad until and unless they get married. And, according to what is customary in his family, in his social group, in his city, dad may forbid his daughters from doing this thing, that thing, and the other thing, or may allow it subject to certain restrictions and conditions. And similarly, when they get married, husband may allow it.

And what dad allows in Afghanistan tends to be pretty similar to what American daughters could get away with in the 1950s.

Jim says:

> In fact, Arabs are pretty much allowed to practice old-type patriarchy.

Reproductive failure among Arab Israelis corresponds to a substantial proportion of women not getting married and not having children.

Which does not sound much like age old patriarchy.

Those Arab Israeli women that are getting married and are having children are having a reasonable number of children.

Yes Arabs are allowed to practice age old patriarchy. But Arab women are also allowed to fuck around and not practice it.

In Afghanistan, a strong empowered independent winmmom who don’t need no man is apt to be picked up by their welfare agency and sent back to her father, who promptly marries her off.

In Israel, Israel proudly points to more Arab women at university than Arab men. Which does not sound much like age old patriarchy.

Mossadnik says:

> Those Arab Israeli women that are getting married ande are having children are having a reasonable number of children.

That’s primarily true among the Bedouins – oh, they used to breed more than Orthodox Jews. But I don’t think spinsterhood is that prevalent among non-Bedouin Arabs; seems they do often get married, but stop breeding after their second child. That probably has to do with economic conditions more than anything else, considering many Arab women don’t work, and considering the rising prices of just about everything. Of course, Feminism does obviously play a substantial role here, but it’s not just that.

jaggard says:

Jim “Trump has to kiss and make up with Majorie Taylor Greene, Tucker, and Thomas Massie, et cetera — which means he has to release the Epstein files and stop invading the world.”

Trump has to stop invading the world because it’s the morally right thing to do. Coincidentally, that may well allow him to win the elections since at least in theory, MAGA voters vote against US military aggression.

Ironically, if Trump were forced to be an actual “peace president” by voter demand, then you’d have some kind of, sort of working…democracy.

Pax Imperialis says:

War and money printing are the last two great industries America has. I say this a bit tongue in cheek, but it is more or less true. Trump has to feed the war machine something otherwise the economy will destabilize too much when trying to get a grip on the real economy.

That said, blowing up cartels is by far not the worst use of military power in American history, and it’s what we’ve increasingly been pivoting to as it has become clear a conflict with China is a complete non-starter.

jaggard says:

>War and money printing are the last two great industries America has. I say this a bit tongue in cheek

That statement actually contains a good deal of the truth. As a side note, money printing is an “industry” of destruction, and so are US wars. The US does still have some legitimate industry, but so what. As another side note, the part of US industry that produces some useful stuff is heavily subsidized by war and financial looting.

>Trump has to feed the war machine something otherwise the economy will destabilize

And that’s a textbook example of CIA propaganda of the economically ignorant, mercatilistic, pseudo-scientific kind. Destabilize? Meaningless jargon.

>That said, blowing up cartels is by far not the worst use of military power

The cartels that exist in the minds of CIA propagandists and the retards who believe them? Let me quote/paraphrase MacGregor again : the “drug problem” in the US is fully caused by US people and the way to “fix it” is to take care of the alleged dealers INSIDE THE US. You know who they are.

Of course the real solution to the “drug problem” is freedom, not far-right communism. But freedom and the US are polar opposites.

Pax Imperialis says:

>Trump has to feed the war machine something otherwise the economy will destabilize
>>And that’s a textbook example of CIA propaganda of the economically ignorant, mercatilistic, pseudo-scientific kind. Destabilize? Meaningless jargon.

The current economic configuration is that US prints money and exports much of the new money for importing real value. This is why inflation rates, as bad as they are, have not been anywhere near the hyper-inflationary rates the increases in money supply would suggest. Typically, no one would trade real goods for scraps of paper, but the calculus changes when the monopoly guy is running a protection racket and will break your legs for missing payments. This only works if they believe your legs will actually get broken, and so legs must be broken every so often to remind people of the situation. If no one took US military seriously, all those imported industrial inputs, which USA doesn’t produce anymore, would suddenly up and leave, and the excess paper would have nowhere else to go but circulate domestically in growing piles of fire starter. If it isn’t obvious at this point why this would be terribly destabilizing for the real economy, there’s not much else I can say.

>That said, blowing up cartels is by far not the worst use of military power
>>The cartels that exist in the minds of CIA propagandists and the retards who believe them?

The cartels run the humans smuggling lanes that have dumped millions of illegals in the US. They are armed illegals who have invaded the country and have engaged in all other sorts of illegal activities

jaggard says:

> If it isn’t obvious at this point why this would be terribly destabilizing for the real economy

OK, now you made more clear what you had in mind. Of course we agree about the workings of theft-by-inflation. But your conclusion is still mostly flawed and poorly worded, or poorly worded on purpose.

When you write “destabilize the economy” you actually mean that if you stopped printing money, you would have to live within your means. Calling that “destabilizing” is just propaganda. Stop looting the world, scumbags.

> The cartels run the humans smuggling lanes that have dumped millions of illegals in the US.

More nonsense. The immigrants can cross the border all by themselves. They don’t need any cartels.

Pax Imperialis says:

>When you write “destabilize the economy” you actually mean that if you stopped printing money, you would have to live within your means. Calling that “destabilizing” is just propaganda

When the Soviet Union was forced to live within their means, the 1990s was a period of great economic, social, and political stability. 🙃

No you fool, if we suddenly stopped exporting printed dollars for real goods backed by US military before restarting domestic industry enough we will probably have a worse experience than 1990s Russia.

Also fuck your freedom. The end result of which was been all sorts of degeneracy and suffering.

The cartels are an unfriendly military power and a pseudo state in our backyard. USG was never going to accept that.

jaggard says:

Also, regarding the “backing” of the US dollar by military force, you are of course correct as far as the general concept goes, although the connection isn’t as direct as you are taking it to be. In particular none of the current wars are meant to force the targets to use the dollar.

And in general, the more countries that get attacked by the US psychos, the bigger the incentive to stop using your piece-of-shit fake currency. Hence, for instance, BRICS.

Anyway, do I get the correct impression that you are ultimately a shill for US empire?

Pax Imperialis says:

>In particular none of the current wars are meant to force the targets to use the dollar.

The majority of current military actions has been about keeping US “allies” in line and extracting economic concessions. Look at how we made the Europeans supply Ukraine, then forced them to buy American weapons. Germany’s energy pipeline blows up and all of a sudden they are making agreements to buy American LNG at tremendous cost.

>Anyway, do I get the correct impression that you are ultimately a shill for US empire?

Boy, America has been an empire since 1776. The only question today is who rules it.

jaggard says:

>Boy, America has been an empire since 1776.

And you think I need something like you to inform me of that fact? I knew that way before you became a hitman for the DEA, wall street and all the rest of the “deep state”.

Not to mention the US is just an outgrowth of the english cancer/empire, so it was an empire since the europeans invaded “america” and started their “puritan” colonies.

Bottom line, your replies are non-replies and irrelevant BUT you’ve perfectly proven that you are a US empire shill and so the question is, what is this “reaction” thing, if not more blatant US imperialism.

Mossadnik says:

I post a lot of rabid antisemitic content here (ironically), so let’s balance things out with a joke.

God is visiting Hell and the Devil is showing him around. God sees two cauldrons with boiling pitch and sinners, one covered with a grate and guarded by many imps, the other completely unguarded. He asks the Devil about the difference.

The Devil says, “the first one is for Jews. As soon as one grabs ahold of the rim, the rest help him out, he then pulls another out, if you’re not careful they will all escape in mere minutes.”

“And the other cauldron?” asks the Lord. “The other one is for Gentiles. As soon as one grabs ahold of the rim, the others say, ‘you think you deserve better than us, huh?’ and pull him back inside.”

And sometimes, alas, there are blackpilled Gentiles who approach with the same mentality those very Jews who are willing and able to help them out.

Jim says:

> “And the other cauldron?” asks the Lord. “The other one is for Gentiles. As soon as one grabs ahold of the rim, the others say, ‘you think you deserve better than us, huh?’ and pull him back inside.”

This fails to correspond to what I see.

What I see is that as soon as someone grabs hold of the rim, a Jew points at the man grabbing the rim and says to the others “Hail fellow white male, that guy is being racist, racist, antisemite, Hitler, Hitler, Hitler, genocide, six million Jews”. Then he stabs the man on the rim in the back while crying out in pain.

Mossadnik says:

This joke is addressed to those who haven’t noticed that Bibi is not actually “falling, falling, falling, has fallen,” but is in fact about to succeed in the autocoup.

They think that, because Trump is not doing so well in this regard, then surely Bibi has failed also. (And they clearly want him to fail, out of spite.) They are wrong, and I expect them to be proven decisively wrong in 2026.

Humungus says:

Humungus is amused.

SkipRamen says:

Jews admit Hitler and Gay
https://x.com/seethroughit2/status/1988870935277924434

People are tired of mideast, who really gives a shit what goes on in the mideast so long as it stays self contained and non-axis.

The Torah/Talmud and Quran/Etc are no good and basically want to kill and subjugate and ripoff everyone else.

They both fail the search test:
top 10 bad things in Judaism/Islam whatever book
false things
incorrect things
wrong things
bizarre things
conspiracy things
murder in judaism/islam and whatever book
why is Judaism/Islam whatever book false/wrong/bad
how many people did muhammad kill and have killed

Never forget to do the negative search.
If the results don’t sound like Light, it’s Darkness.

Mossadnik says:

> If the results don’t sound like Light, it’s Darkness.

Life is not “all or nothing.” Even Divine Law itself, if followed mechanically, without regard for circumstances, can turn into not-so-Divine Law. That might sound antinomian, but I believe that God is a rather nuanced and reasonable fella.

(“He that is without sin among you…”)

In Real Life, one must often choose between imperfect alternatives, rather than between total perfection vs. total corruption. To insist otherwise is the definition of holiness spiralling.

Mossadnik says:

When the Jews rejected Christ/Reality, they stopped being Chosen, and became un-Chosen.

If Jews re-embrace God (not in the outward, cultural sense, but in the true, fundamental sense of better adherence to His Law than pretty much everyone else), then just as surely as they we un-Chosen, they will be re-Chosen.

Ideally, of course, everyone should partake of the Blessing. (By no means am I an ethno-narcissist.)

Don’t close your eyes to Redemption, even if it doesn’t happen the way you expected it to happen.

SkipRamen says:

TelegraphUK: The UK Health Security Agency declared that releasing COVID data would lead to “distress or anger” of bereaved relatives if COVID link were to be discovered, thus data was banned from release, obviously because such link exists.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2025/11/15/government-withholding-data-covid-jab-link-excess-deaths/

About 50% of your politicians should be dragged from their offices and shot dead.
About 25% should be dragged from their offices and thrown in the river.
About 15% should be dragged from their offices and sent to work at the grocery store.

That’s the only way to be sure.

The remaining 10% might be useful to helping run a country, but the idea of a “Politician” needs to be destroyed forever… these workers should be employed by a King, in turn subject to simple appointment and yes/no of the people.

Mossadnik says:

Do titles matter? A politician, be it in 1940 or 2023 or whenever, who was literally a top-notch elite warrior, for instance, and who possesses inborn Leader-of-Men qualities, may well function as a king. Yes, NRx advocates Formalism. But ultimately a natural warrior is a natural warrior, with or without suit-and-tie. (Of course, democracy is deeply flawed and all that, but that’s a different point.) (And kings can make very horrible mistakes too.)

SkipRamen says:

> And kings can make very horrible mistakes too

Nothing wrong with Kings, they can be quite good, and thus needs to be a renewal of Kings in the world, in part because Western Democracy (now become a Leftism Institution) has proven itself to be quite a failure mode.

But like everything else, if you want to avoid a violent recall, you have to reserve and enshrine at least some form of simple “yes/no” recall capacity by the people.

Which is why it’s hard to follow “power is absolutely secure from the people”… philosophy vs reality.

Mossadnik says:

Well, the good thing about the People is that many do possess common sense. If, for instance, the People see everyone around them dropping like flies for some strange reason, obviously the King fucked up big time, and should be physically removed. And if they don’t see any such thing whatsoever, then Rumors and Speculation (often from dubious sources) are unlikely to fool them. Ain’t that beautiful?

Anyway, I agree.

SkipRamen says:

> dropping like flies for some strange reason, obviously the King fucked up

Sometimes flies drop due to externals, of no fault or ability to control by the local King.

Some of those reasons are listed in the speculated timeline.

(How does one edit or delete their own posts?)

SkipRamen says:

Britain’s Speech Gulag Exposed: 10,000 Arrested Last Year For Social Media Posts
https://modernity.news/2025/11/17/britains-speech-gulag-exposed-10000-arrested-last-year-for-social-media-posts/

If Demographics Are Destiny… We’re Screwed!
https://www.theburningplatform.com/2025/11/16/if-demographics-is-destiny-were-screwed/

Mossadnik says:

> If Demographics Are Destiny… We’re Screwed!

On the one hand, that’s true.

On the other hand – Earth has never had more humans than it has right now, and according to the AI demon, human population is expected to peak in 2084 with 10.3 billion humans on Earth. Who knows what will happen by that time? (Of course, not all humans are the same. Well, your data doesn’t reflect that either, nor does it dive into other very crucial details.) So calm your tits – we’re not about to go extinct for lack of people anytime soon.

Contaminated NEET says:

The people that can build and create anything worth a damn are in serious danger of being submerged in the Rising Tide of Color.

Mayflower Sperg says:

This relates to a question I saw on YouTube: Of the dozens of hominid species in the fossil record, why did only Homo sapiens survive to the present day? The correct answer, not sayable on YouTube, is that classifying any living hominid as a different species would be “racist”:

https://x.com/USA_J_1776/status/1857977743192862867

Jews work hard to flood white countries with violent, low-IQ apes because they hate white people more than they value their own lives.

Some public figures now say that mass immigration was a mistake. Wrong, it was a war crime, which means the perpetrators can be hanged even if their actions were legal at the time.

Hesiod says:

https://x.com/libsoftiktok/status/1990835751668343224

Democrats released a video earlier today begging the military to disobey Trump and Hegseth.

SkipRamen says:

> Democrats released a video

Dems said Admin is “pitting … against American Citizens”.

Dems already imported 12 Million against American Citizens, torched American Citizens Business’, Canceled and Censored them, Injected them, Thugged/Raped/Robbed/Murdered them in the street, Media Frauded, Laundered $Billions through Leftist Gov-NGO, Obomba’d, Hillary’d, Comer’d, Stood up a non-Compos President… and much more.

Dems already lost that “pitting” argument.

Pax Imperialis says:

Out of touch, Trump impersonations have never been more popular. Many joke, positively, about getting deployed to Chiraq… ok maybe not there, that would suck, but the sentiment is that it’s not a bad thing the military is being used to actually defend America at home.

SkipRamen says:

Trump is now literally selling out the USA to the Islamic Empire, and you thought China/India’s sneaky Landholding/H1B/University attack on the USA was bad, same as the Globo Gay Climate WEF COVID Debt etc. Now Trump is happily adding the next foreign invader and owner upon you. As if BlackRock wasn’t enough already.

https://x.com/WhaleInsider/status/1990843055654551824

So gonna see about 10x more Mosques in your soon to be No-Go neighborhood, bleating Adhan louder than the roosters at dawn, and lots of Muhammaden and Hijabi women at the stores blowing you out.

You think I was joking about needing Mobile Christian Revival GhettoBlasters and Barbecue Pork units.

So much for “America First” and “American Heritage”.

It’s more like a fire sale to whichever Invaders can pony up first.
You will own nothing of America, not even your house/car/business/job.
Your Churches will be subject to Shariah Law, and its lawless gangs.
The foreign AI’s won’t speak English amongst themselves, and will bury you down in the service queue.
And you won’t be happy.

Whole planet is turning into a mashup of race/religion/culture, all of them incompatible in state of perma-war, all overlorded by GloboCorpoElites.

When you lose your Identity, you’re done.

It was planned, Conspiracists knew and warned about it 40+ years ago.

Global GeoPolitical Turnings of Empires, downfalls, are a bitch.
You should have tarred and shot all your Politicians a long time ago.
Especially all those involved in the “Federal Reserve” and “Taxation” scam of 1913, the Progs, “New Deal” SocComs, etc.
Your Gay Popes, School Boards, Media, Public Unions, Deep State, Spooks, Banksters.
Every Democrat, and most everyone else, from Clinton onwards.

Politicians and Presidents are now desperately trying to “Save America” by permanently selling it out shares to foreign auction all while lying and calling it “investment”.

Far better to default, go back to hard, and evict everyone from the country, at least that way you retain ownership, because very few will try a Repo war against the US.

US is critically close to being done in by the Dark Conglomeration against it.
Miracle required.
Pray, get together, and Act… Political Arena, Money Arena, Race Arena, Faith Arena.
Very little time remains.

Mossadnik says:

Jim:

Right now, we have a very nasty split between Israel and Maga. “Hail fellow Maga supporter — America First is Russian disinfo, therefore to protect Maga from RussiaRussiaRussia disinfo, Maga must be silenced, Tucker must be cancelled, deplatformed, and demonetized, and the only people that can be trusted with the Epstein files is Mossad. We cancelled European democracy to protect you from Russian disinfo, and we must cancel democracy in America to protect American democracy from Russian disinfo, ansemitism holocaust six million Hitler Hitler Hitler fascist. To protect against Russian sponsored racism we had to jail ten thousand white Britons for social media posting, maybe we should just jail all white people everywhere.”

I welcome your opinions on this.

I’m definitely not a fan of any anti-Russian hysteria. Like many of my countrymen, I speak Russian and appreciate Russian culture — one can say I’m more of a gopnik than a GOPnik, if you pardon the wordplay — and have a favorable (well, at least not very unfavorable) view of Putin. I think that claims about sinister Russian influence are often grossly, ridiculously exaggerated. That doesn’t mean that I blindly side with all of the Kremlin’s policies, and I’m afraid Russia is in decline like much of the civilized world, but knowing (and liking) the Slavs personally, I believe that most of “Russisn disinfo” boils down to low-level low-quality trolling, not a significant phenomenon that anyone should be particularly concerned about.

I’m against political censorship in general, having a somewhat libertarian attitude in this regard. The laws against Holocaust Denial have clearly done more harm than good, and while I object to some anti-Semitic and (even more so) anti-Zionist ideas, I’m completely opposed to censoring people for voicing them. There is something fundamentally effeminate, un-masculine about the behavior of many Jewish organizations that seek to silence whoever they dislike for speaking objectionable words.

Trump is the most pro-Israeli American President ever, and I — or, rather, we — deeply appreciate that. I would very much like to cooperate with the MAGA base; MAGA people and Likudniks are somewhat similar in temperament. As for the Epstein files, I think you should release everything you have to the public.

Bix Nudelmann says:

Bill Clinton: “first black president”
Barack Obama: “first gay president”
Donald Trump: “first Jewish president”

Fine.

Bix Nudelmann says:

If anyone here has a take on what this Venezuela thing could possibly be “really” about, please share, because I’ve got nothing.

And by extension the decade-long thing with Juan Guaido. It’s been explained and justified even less than the al-Assad/Syria thing was, and I didn’t know that was possible.

The best I’ve gotten off-line is that Venezuela is where the Western Hemisphere’s sour crude is, and is thus needed to keep the refineries in Texas and Louisiana going for war purposes if we’re cut off from the Gulf. But I don’t even know enough to fact-check that.

SkipRamen says:

> Venezuela

#1 Oil and Gas, gold, minerals, hydropower
#2 Regional / Hemispheric power
Massive hemispheric pivot now trying to accrete long ignored neighbors and land masses into a new allied “The Americas” form, to basically attempt to stave off power of the rising China-conglomerate (incl Afric-Asia-India) and Islam.
#3 A base closer to the Canal re China, hence rumblings on Panama.

Has nothing to do with “Dictator Maduro” or “VZ Election Fraud” or “Drugs/Gangs/Crime” or “Migrants”… those are all just excuses to annex Venezuela.

(The US Election Fraud and Drugs/Gangs/Crime/Migrants in US can easily be mopped up at the border and internally.)

Go watch Machado’s recent clips… it’s all about Oil and “Investment” “Partnership”… get her in, she puppets herself to her new US frens. Though her “Nobel Prize” is kindof WEF’ish.

Same with Argentina, Chile, El Salvador, Bolivia, Paraguay, Honduras.

GeoPolitics, Resources, Money, Power, War… that’s it, that’s life, dog eat dog, nothing new under the sun since 1M years, ain’t going to be anything new in the next 100 years either, except for maybe WWIII.

US squandered itself on the Islamic States, fighting sand-Jihadis instead of simply bombing the Heads of State and Industrial Base and letting them devolve back down into their natural state.
All that was a waste because that wasn’t the problem that needed solved.
Main Problem is that while the “source” of the Quranic-Muhammad Hijra-Jihad Invasion of the US/West by Islam is “from” the MidEast (and now Euro/other Islamic breeding grounds outside MidEast)… the *PERMISSON* for them to successfully Invade the US/West was granted by your US/West Politicians themselves, against you, and by your fatal “Suicidal Empathy / Wokism / Leftism”.
The war against Islam is first evicting all the Muslims from your lands, before the Mideast becomes capable of projecting Real Power Protection Umbrella (aka Nuclear Power) over the Muslims.
Putin claimed Nuclear Umbrella over “Russian Speakers” and took Ukraine.
If you let Islam get Nukes, Islam will declare Umbrella over “Muslims” and take the West. (Pakistan is already beginning to flex and declare as such).
If you can’t get the eviction (Second Crusade) done before Islam’s base can Project, you have a big problem.
Kaaba, Dome of the Rock, al-Azhar… all that should have been wiped off the map ages ago… but with every chance all the way back to the First Crusades… Pussy Empathy let the problem get worse.

Trump is betting that business deals with Islam will solve things. While partially true, nothing overrides the objectives and instructions in the Quran. So ultimately Islam must be pushed out, contained, and kept non-projective. Then you can do business mutually.

The exact same permission, weakness, frozen fear, empathy, and failure to recognize goes for all the other Invading stuff… Jewry, SocComMarx, Black, Brown, Gay, WQ, $Fiat.

All of it was ultimately allowed by your weak and devious Politicians that you elected into office. And the Popes you didn’t recall.

Stop doing that, stop letting that happen, and you might have a chance.

And a far better chance with a King leading that than hoping on “Democracy”.

Wrong Politicians and Popes… get them out.

Jim says:

> Putin claimed Nuclear Umbrella over “Russian Speakers” and took Ukraine.
> If you let Islam get Nukes, Islam will declare Umbrella over “Muslims” and take the West. (Pakistan is already beginning to flex and declare as such).

I have a lot of sympathy for Russians beyond Russia, because they stayed put but the border moved over their heads, while Muslims in America crossed the border, mostly illegally. But in another generation, such fine points will not matter.

What does matter is that Russians can live in peace with non Russians, while Muslims cannot. — It was just that Nato has launched a savage persecution of Russian minorities abroad. If it had refrained from doing so, might have gotten away with setting up nukes on Russia’s borders. After all, making war on Russian minorities abroad is an indication of intent to make war on Russia, so Russia dare not tolerate nukes on its borders, and if it cannot have a buffer zone of neutral states on its borders, has no alternative but to create a buffer zone of genocided desolate wilderness on its borders.

If Nato cannot live in peace with Russian minorities, every non Russian in the Ukraine, Poland, Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, and Finland has to die. This is existential for Russia.

To solve this problem, we have to create a moral precedent and consensus, that if you create what is likely to look like an existential threat to your adversary, genocidal solutions are morally acceptable, therefore it is not morally acceptable to do stuff that is likely to look like an existential threat to your adversary. So Israel is allowed to exterminate the Palestinians unless Dar Al Islam reforms, and Russia is allowed to exterminate the near abroad unless Nato reforms or backs off from Russian borders.And Christendom is allowed to exterminate Dar Al Islam unless Dar Al Islam reforms.

In order to have peace, we have to rehabilitate the crusades, and credibly threaten more of the same. Notice that after the French made a good start on genocide in Tripoli, the problem with Islam went away, and when the problem went away, the French stopped genociding. And when, decades later, having forgotten how bad Islam had been, they no longer had the will to potentially commit genocide, the problem with Islam returned.

So we have to create a general consensus that under certain circumstances, genocide is OK, and what is wicked is creating those circumstances.

A consensus that genocide is never OK is unstable against people gaming the rules by deliberately creating situations in which the only effective counter move of their adversary is close to genocidal, as for example, Hamas hiding behind women and children, with the result that Israel slaughters them, and the Ukraine using apartment buildings to shelter patriot missiles, and schools for stockpiles of explosives.

Jehu says:

This should probably be a post. You are absolutely correct, legal or moral prohibitions against genocide should be voided for any group that games them. We probably ought to insist on some minimum fraction killed or at least displaced as well (I recommend 10%) before we haul out the genocide word. Otherwise you basically can’t conduct any serious warfare.

SkipRamen says:

> What does matter is that Russians can live in peace with non Russians

The entire Northern Arc of Civilization is essentially White-type, and thankfully even largely still of Christian-type Faith, so of course they can get along at peace as men of good will.

Problem is, you’ve got a Jewry as head of Ukraine, and Jewry as heads over much of the US/West Politicians. This leads to distortions and fomentation of ill will.

West/NATO should have embraced and brought Russia/Putin in right after the Bolshevik collapsed in 1989. Would have been a great partnership against the ChiComs and Islam.

Gotta get Zelensky, VonDerLayme, LaGarde, Starmer, and the WEF out.

The Russian People are funny and creative, they go to Church sometimes, they get married, I like them.

> Tripoli France

US was forced to create its first Navy to spank those Muhammaden Pirates.

US/Israel/India probably know where the Iran and Paki nukes are.
Someone somewhere has obviously been calculating the risk of their further proliferation, vs taking them out, vs “Golden Shield”.
Because their computer recently spit out Iran.
It failed to correctly solve for the lives of A.Q.Khan and friends.
And it traded DPRK for Hyundai’s… so it is now re-trying to get them in boost-phase by partnering with the Daewoo and Matsushita types, further up against the ChiCom Hegemon Empire… a computation which is probably melting its CPU.

Crusades, somewhere, by 2040.
Droid-AI conquests by 2055.
Nuclear/Biological Winter by 2100.
Mars/MilkyWay ????

SkipRamen says:

Crusades, somewhere, by 2040.
Droid-AI conquests by 2055.
Nuclear/Biological Winter by 2100.
Oil/Gas/Coal depletion ????
Mars/MilkyWay self-sustaining colonies ????

SkipRamen says:

A King, somewhere in West again, by 2040.
A Crusade, started somewhere in West, by 2040.
Third Temple by 2050?
Droid-AI conquests by 2055.
Nuclear/Biological Winter by 2100.
Oil/Gas/Coal/Uranium depletion ????
Mars/MilkyWay self-sustaining colonies ????
Christ… not soon enough (no offence to Hindus/Buddhists).

Mossadnik says:

> Nuclear/Biological Winter by 2100.

Hey, no need to scare the bejesus out of me! But yeah, entrusting Pakis with nukes is not the smartest idea in the world. I don’t know if it’s inevitable that they’ll fly in my direction, but if we are allied with the Crusaders — which we obviously should be, and likely will be — then certainly we should be prepared for that.

Contaminated NEET says:

Lol. Lmao.

Brazilification of the USA by 2018.
Brazilification of Europe by 2040.
Brazilification of East Asia by 2060.
Africanization of USA and Europe by 2070
Africanization of Planet Earth by 2100.
Knowledge of nuclear technology completely lost by 2110.
Colonization of the Solar System never.

Jim says:

> Brazilification of the USA by 2018.
> Brazilification of Europe by 2040.

This is obviously absurd. Britain, Sweden, France, etc, is way way way ahead of the US on Brazilification.

And right now millions of non whites are self deporting as their wefare and section eight housing gets yanked. We are getting that factoid right from the horse’s mouth, the immigration lawyers.

Contaminated NEET says:

It’s absurd that you think it’s absurd. America is minority White now. Probably by a lot. A while back I got some flack for estimating the US at 35% White, but that’s a much more realistic figure than whatever official lie the government’s offical liars tell us, and even the official lie is worrisomely low and dropping like a stone. They don’t know how many illegals there are, they don’t want to know, and they deliberately lowball the estimates. Remember Reagan’s idiotic amnesty and the underestimation by many times over – do you think it’s more accurate now? The country has gotten much browner, much more corrupt, much poorer, much dirtier, and much stupider in the last 15 years.

I had to get an FBI background check a few years ago for some bureaucratic nonsense. I’ve done it before, and it was always pretty simple: get fingerprinted, pay a nominal fee, and wait a few weeks. This time though, you could pay the same nominal fee, but the wait would be many months – much too long for my needs. Alternatively, you could pay a much higher fee, not to the FBI but to a private “channeler,” who submits your paperwork for you, and then you would get the result in the same few weeks as before. What is this? It’s a bribe to a connected crony, plain and simple, officially, openly endorsed and recommended by the “nation’s premier law enforcement agency.” This would have been unthinkable and disgraceful in my youth, but it is par for the course for the USA today.

Under Biden, unknown tens of millions enter illegally. Under Trump, a few hundred thousand deportations, and a few million self-deportations. The math is dramatically against us. Naturally immigration lawyers and other nomenklatura are in a panic, but they’re so used to getting their way on everything always without doubt that any resistance genuinely feels apocalyptic to them. They’ve also learned that most Americans don’t see them as the unquestionable experts and incorruptible saints they believe themselves to be, and that hurts. Still, they are the real government, and the merely elected government cannot overrule them without starting Civil War II.

I chose 2018 as the date of American Brazilification, because that is when it became clear that Trump had neither the ability nor the will to turn things around. The real government distracted him, managed him, waited him out, and then took their ground back and much more when he was gone. They’re doing the same thing again, quite skillfully, and this time, when Trump shuffles off for good, the gloves are really coming off. Like the character from the movie, Law Abiding Citizen, said, it’s going to be Biblical. Packing the court, ending the filibuster, statehood for Puerto Rico, ending the electoral college, full immigration amnesty, importing 150 million more dusky thirdworlder voters – nothing is off the table. It will be a generation or two of total Proggie dominance followed by incoherent third world caudilloism.

Europe has even worse rulers than we do, granted, but their demographics are much better. Also, Progressivism was and is imposed on them at American bayonet-point, so as the USA deteriorates, they will at least have a chance to cast it off. They will probably blow it, because we shall drown and no one will save us.

Jim says:

> It’s a bribe to a connected crony, plain and simple, officially, openly endorsed and recommended by the “nation’s premier law enforcement agency.”

Of course. America functions, to the extent that it functions at all, by bribery and corruption. I tried to build a house nigh twenty years ago and quickly discovered how things work. My guestimate is that ninety percent of the cost of built up property is the cost of corruption.

On the other hand, if it was not for bribery and corruption, I would have a criminal record with some fairly serious crimes on it, so the fact that far too many things are forbidden is mitigated by the possibility of paying off judges. On the other hand, this creates an incentive to intrusively forbid stuff.

But America has been this way for decades, and I would be greatly surprised if Europe had not been a lot worse for a lot longer — they are after all going down the drainhole economically a lot further and faster than America, which is a good indicator of the level of criminality and corruption.

> this time, when Trump shuffles off for good, the gloves are really coming off. Like the character from the movie, Law Abiding Citizen, said, it’s going to be Biblical. Packing the court, ending the filibuster, statehood for Puerto Rico, ending the electoral college, full immigration amnesty, importing 150 million more dusky thirdworlder voters

That is not biblical. That is normality bias. You have not been listening to the left. Sydney Sweeny’s face and boobs oppress women, hurt them, and make them suffer, and need to be fixed with a rusty razor blade. Whites oppress by existing, and the evil thoughts of straight males oppress women and gays, and the whiteness of white males oppress coloreds. Burning down the cities the way they burned down Detroit, that is biblical.

They are going to kill everyone if not stopped. “Packing the court” you say. As if the courts mattered. Bringing in two hundred million browns you say, as if elections mattered. On this side of the Rubicon, none of that matters any more.

You are “predicting” that things are going to stabilise forever at what they already were twenty years ago. You are way behind Trump. Trump is far closer to knowing what time it is than you are.

This may explain your strange delusion that globohomo is sane, competent, and rational. Under Bill Clinton, the last remaining sane and rational leftists were desperately hanging on by their fingernails. Obama was the few remaining sane and rational leftists falling off the bus, or being thrown under the bus.

Look at the left takeover of open source, video games, Disney, Jaguar, and Gillette. All they can do is smash, loot and burn, and harm anyone better than themselves to drag them down to their own level, like they want to slash Sydney Sweeny’s face and breasts. When the left is in control the creation of value stops. They want to murder everyone’s children because they murdered their own. Remember the left celebrating those Texan kids that got drowned in a flash flood? They hated them for being alive while they aborted their own children, and now have no children.

SkipRamen says:

> millions of non whites are self deporting

I bumped into a property owning invader, he was bitching about how his illegal brown renters panicked decided to voluntarily boot themselves back across the border, how he’d have to pay tax, rehab, and maybe have to sell it empty.

Made me happy to think he was getting wrecked and that White people might get it and live there again 🙂

Neurotoxin says:

Africanization of Planet Earth by 2100.
Knowledge of nuclear technology completely lost by 2110.

Notice that the writer of this lives in a mental world in which China and Russia do not exist.

The sheer, carefree, utter detachment from reality.

Pax Imperialis says:

Well to be fair Russia has been stumbling in the dark, generally back into the arms of God, but they still have a long ways to go and can still certainly fuck it up. China… is just depressing to think about how far they’d have to go. They just recently decided that maybe the WQ is a problem. They’re nowhere close to solving the issue of state religion which is as much of a gordian knot if I’ve ever seen one.

Neurotoxin says:

>Pax at 2025-11-20 at 05:20

The point is, they reject importing hostile aliens.

Contaminated NEET says:

>Notice that the writer of this lives in a mental world in which China and Russia do not exist

Bullshit. I said Brazilification of Europe and Brazilification of East Asia. That includes Russia and China. Their birthrates are in the toilet, and I’m predicting their rulers have neither the smarts nor the spine to resist “solving” the problem and proving their righteousness by importing infininiggers.

>The point is, they reject importing hostile aliens.
So did the USA within living memory. Hell, the American people rejected it emphatically at the ballot box twice in the last ten years. It’s still happening.

Don’t get me wrong: I think China is mankind’s best and only hope. They might pull through, especially since they get to watch us destroy ourselves with immigration before following us off that cliff. I wouldn’t bet on it, though. The decline of the USA and Europe is going to produce a lot desperate but skilled and valuable refugees right as China is going to need more people. China’s leaders are going to be tempted to let them in, and rationalize it as different and better than letting in infininiggers, even though it’s simply the first step on that path. The Chinese also don’t have the memetic chops that Jews or even Whites do. Their propaganda is mediocre at best. Yes Jim, our propaganda is garbage now, but it was world-alteringly great just a generation ago. The Chinese are going to let camel’s nose into the tent, and then the camel is going to sweet talk them into giving the tent away to our Cherished Nigerian Christians.

S says:

You aren’t going to get Africanization of the planet unless the United States dies last because the process requires subsidized food.

Neurotoxin says:

Me: “Notice that the writer of this lives in a mental world in which China and Russia do not exist”

NEETT: “Bullshit. I said Brazilification of Europe and Brazilification of East Asia.”

You literally said “Africanization of Planet Earth by 2100.”

Varna says:

> A while back I got some flack for estimating the US at 35% White, but that’s a much more realistic figure than whatever official lie the government’s offical liars tell us, and even the official lie is worrisomely low and dropping like a stone.

Two months back I asked AI to estimate the heritage white population of the US, without all the Algerians, Moroccans, Iraqis etc bundled into the “non-hispanic white” category, and AI estimated around 35%. Not sure if illegals were counted, though.

With the zoomers it’s likely a quarter at best, around 40-50% with millennials, and a shaky majority with boomers.

In this sense, if all illegals are booted out today, and legal migration from the third world is shut down completely, in a generation it’s still Brazil. Possibly a functional Brazil, depending on how things go, but if they publicly admit that *white* schoolkids became a minority in 2014, and the newborn *whites* became a minority in 2012, then the actual heritage white kids probably became a minority years before that, and in 2025 the situation is likely very, very, basically irreversibly enriched.

It is what it is. Likely still ways to make this porridge functional, place in some sane scaffolding to make the generational transition non-apocalyptic, but only if the political superstructure changes radically right now, in the sense of yesterday.

Mossadnik says:

> Likely still ways to make this porridge functional, place in some sane scaffolding to make the generational transition non-apocalyptic, but only if the political superstructure changes radically right now, in the sense of yesterday.

Exactly so. No time to mess around with any nitty-gritty. A radical shift is long overdue.

Whatever it takes, the Survival of Civ is top priority. Can’t afford to lose it, whatever the cost.

Mossadnik says:

> Third Temple by 2050?

Oh, by the way:

I don’t expect old-type, “real” Judaism to stage a comeback as a state religion. What is more likely under the timeline described here is that Israel will submit to the Christian Empire, and then over time its ruling class will adopt Christian attitudes, be it non-aggression or other things, albeit tribal customs will be popularly maintained. Even religious Jews are not, in fact, particularly enthusiastic about restoring the theocracy — Sanhedrin, animal sacrifice, and all that — and as exposure to modern (non-retard) civilization deepens, will only grow less and less enthusiastic for it.

If we can get the Ultra-Orthodox “under control,” so to speak, need not worry too much about Third Temple Jews behaving irrationally towards the Hegemon as Second Temple Jews did. Israel may be somewhat brown, but even brown Jews are not all “infinigger.” Some are, yes, but generally Mizrahim are functional and reasonable people. (I myself have quite misrepresented them in the past, depicting them more negatively than deserved. They are nice people, well, for the most part.)

And if Western Jews make mass aliyah, as I passionately advocate, and as is likely, then undoubtedly our new ruling class will possess some Christian elements and outlooks.

(Now, if we don’t get the Ultra-Orthodox under control pretty soon, then we’ll just rapidly collapse anyway.)

Tejano Bob says:

They’d have to get rid of their Phoenician Molech worshippers to do that.

Bix Nudelmann says:

OK here’s the best I can figure out about Venezuela:

1: USState/USMIL/MIC are completely rougue and uncontrollable, and simply WILL go to war on somebody. Anybody. It can’t be helped.

2: Ukraine is lost, so gotta get out.

3: Taiwan is unwinnable, so gotta keep the military (especially the Navy) away from there.

4: Gaza is hopeless too.

1+2+3+4: So, like a cranky toddler, need to distract USState/USMIL/MIC with Latin America instead, so at least it can’t hurt anything else. Plus, can recapitalize the dollar a little with all that oil there.

Mossadnik says:

Jim:

I am interested in why secular Jews continue to reproduce. Are secular Jews continuing to reproduce? If true, I find it surprising. Anecdotal data is often more reliable than “scientific” statistical data, because the peer review panel is apt to cook the data, but I would like your review of the the scientific and “scientific” statistical data on this question.

In Israel, secular Jews do continue to reproduce. I don’t have a clear explanation for it. Seems that it really has a lot to do with the general atmosphere here, for lack of a better term. Perhaps, in a sense, secular Jews are not truly secular – I think Jews are much more spiritual, much less materialistic than many people believe. At least over here. People seem to just really like children, and don’t want to miss on “family life.” To be clear, there is an obvious positive correlation between religiosity and fertility, yet it’s not uncommon for secular Jews to have 3 kids. (Now it’s somewhat less common, particularly when divorce rates are high among that demographic, but it still happens.) Perhaps there’s a “social expectation” element to it, or maybe it’s that Jews have somehow been biologically selected for it.

In Mein Kampf, Hitler wrote that Jews possess a very powerful survival instinct. I believe it’s true. Possibly that survival instinct also translates to a desire to reproduce. Ultimately, people have children because they want it. Furthermore, when you have many religious Jews around, who see reproduction as a divine commandment, that seems to influence the non-religious Jews to “do their part” also. At least that’s what I speculate.

It’s really not about owning women like a farmer owns his cow. Not that I’m opposed to that – but if we’re being honest and not trollish, I believe that “cultural” (perhaps also genetic) influence has much more to do with fertility. But it’s hard for me to explain. They seem to “just do it.” Once again, I hypothesize that many secular Jews, deep down, are not truly secular. We are a nation of priests, and there must be a spiritual element to it.

Mossadnik says:

Possibly relevant to all of this:

A new report from the Jewish People Policy Institute (JPPI) reveals a notable rise in religious observance and political rightward shift among Israelis since the onset of the war, with the most dramatic changes seen in young Jewish adults.

The survey, part of JPPI’s Israeli Society Index, found that 27% of Israelis have increased their observance of religious customs since the war began. Among Jewish youth aged 18-24, this number climbs to 33%. Notably, 23% of Arabs also report a stronger adherence to traditional customs.

The data indicate that the shift toward tradition is particularly pronounced among those already identifying as somewhat traditional or religious. Among Jewish youth who consider themselves “traditional, not so religious,” 37% report increased observance. This figure rises to 51% among those identifying as “traditional, somewhat religious.”

More specifically, 31% of Jews overall say they are praying more frequently, while 20% report increased reading of the Bible or Psalms. Approximately one in ten Jews report increased synagogue attendance (11%), Shabbat candle lighting (11%), laying tefillin (9%), and dressing more modestly (9%). Among Jewish youth, 38% report increased prayer and 26% more Bible reading. Fourteen percent also say they are lighting Shabbat candles more often, attending synagogue more, and dressing more modestly.

Among traditional Jews, nearly half (43%) report changes in practice. Of these, 42% say they pray more, 23% read sacred texts more often, and 20% light Shabbat candles more frequently. In the Arab sector, similar trends were observed, with 32% reporting increased prayer, 12% more modest dress, and 10% greater attendance at church or mosque.

The survey also highlights a rise in belief in God. Overall, 28% of Jews and 37% of Arabs report stronger faith, while only 9% of Jews and 4% of Arabs say their faith has weakened. Among Jewish youth, 35% report increased belief in God. When asked about their social circles, 49% of Jewish Israelis say their friends and relatives have also shown stronger faith. This perception rises to 58% among Jewish youth and 52% among Arabs.

Politically, the data reveal a marked shift to the right among Jewish Israelis. Since the war began, those identifying as “hard right” have increased from 11% to 19%, and those identifying as “right” have risen from 24% to 28%. Among those who previously considered themselves “moderate right,” 45% now say they have moved further right. Similarly, 59% of those formerly “right-leaning toward the center” and 43% of centrists report a rightward shift. Even among the “moderate left” and “hard left,” around 50% report moving rightward. Among Arab respondents, political alignment has remained stable.

Dr. Shuki Friedman, CEO of JPPI, commented: “The data reflects what we sensed on the ground: many in Israel – especially among the young – feel that the war has connected them more deeply to tradition and to Jewish identity. Not necessarily in a halachic way, but in ways that are more salient in their lives and across the public sphere. When Sasson Shaulov’s hit song ‘Tamid Ohev Oti’ ([God] Always Loves Me) – a religious song by a rabbi – gets tens of millions of plays on YouTube, it captures the spirit of the moment. Alongside this, Israelis, especially young people, have shifted to the right. Israel after the war is more traditional and more right-leaning.”

https://archive.is/9KHBd

That’s also my impression from IRL observation.

Mossadnik says:

(Jimian) Christians seek to colonize the whole universe.

Traditional Jews basically just want this tiny plot of land to be Jewish.

There is no need for these objectives to ever clash. We are not enemies, and whoever thinks that we are needs to get his head out of the Alt-Right’s rectum. There are problems with Jews, to be sure, but Jews (at least Israelis) just are not an obstacle to the long-term goals of Jimianity.

The universe can be Christian, and Israel can be Jewish – there is no incompatibility between these two goals. We are not enemies now, nor is there any reason for us to ever become enemies.

In my view, it’s all working according to God’s plan. Israel is on a good path. I, an Israeli, do wish to help Christians achieve their Cosmic Imperative. Fagging and fagging and fagging against Israel just is not necessary. We actually can be allies, in the true sense of the term.

Maybe, indeed, we are all going to make it.

The Cominator says:

Mossad once again I’ll say and Jim has said, we don’t object to your posting but you post 3+ posts in a row far too often. I’ve made many posts in a row too but I try not to do it too often. If you think you have multiple things to respond to try to consolidate them into one comment.

Mossadnik says:

Got it. I’ll try even harder, lol.

Dolfin says:

I wouldn’t get my hopes up. Mossadnik openly admitted to having shilled a pro-Israel agenda since October 7, then lied about taking a break from posting:

https://blog.reaction.la/culture/what-women-want-2/#comment-2984297

…yet he is still here, and still spamming.
Any other Israeli shills might as well fess up at this point, since there’s clearly no need for secrecy.

Mossadnik says:

Taking a break gives one time to read stuff and reflect on Life, or else you end up perpetually glued to the Jim Blog screen every waking moment, updating that screen every minute or so. An exercise in self-control, if you will. Which I failed, having been away for a mere half-month, not millenia or something, because my Mossad handlers are possessed of a sense of urgency, so they just sent me back.

Jim says:

> (Jimian) Christians seek to colonize the whole universe.

> Traditional Jews basically just want this tiny plot of land to be Jewish.

Then what is it with banning Easter and Christmas in America?

It was not just the Jews that banned Christmas, though Jews were unduly prominent among them, but it was just the Jews that banned Easter.

A whole lot of Jews signed up with Maga, often rather belatedly, and now want to throw the whites out of Maga due to Maga’s lack of enthusiasm for far away wars in places most Americans could not find on a map.

Right now we have a huge problem with a whole lot of supposedly Maga Jews going “Nazi Hitler six million gas chambers Russia Russia Russia Nazi Hitler Putler Fascist” at the Maga movement. This is not the way to win friends and influence people. We see Jews in America dehumanising Maga in the same breath as they dehumanise Palestinians. The left is dehumanising us, and the Jews are dehumanising us.

In war one must do terrible things. And Israel probably needs to things even more terrible than it has been doing.

But a whole lot of Jews are unduly enthusiastic about the terrible things that need doing and are justifying them by dehumanising their enemies. Wars must end eventually, and while this attitude makes the horrors of war easier, it makes peace harder.

Tucker fails to appreciate that sometimes, often, you really do need to credibly threaten to exterminate the enemy, and sometimes, considerably less often, you really do need to exterminate the enemy, and thus is arguably unfair to Israel. But that does not make him wrong: these really are horrible things and Americans do not need to be part of them, and it certainly does not make him and most of Maga “Hitler Nazi Nazi Putin Russia Russia Nazi Nazi Hitler Nazi.”

BLM wants whites exterminated, and American Jews want whites exterminated — we are all Nazi Hitler Putin. Trannies want straight males exterminated, and the left wants Republicans exterminated. They all blur together a big crowd of horrible people demanding war against us.

This makes it easy for people like Nick Fuentes to say “It is all Jews, and all the others are just tools of the Jews”. Not it is not, it is all the left, and the often the Jews are just tools of the left. But they all blur together, they are all one, and people stop caring about which one exactly it is.

When it came to banning Christmas, that was Harvard, and the Jews were merely the frontmen, the middle men, doing the dirty work for Harvard. When it came to banning Easter, that was those Christ killing Jews, and when it came to war on Russia, that was mostly the Goyim hating Jews that want Ukrainians dead almost as much as they want Russians dead, and considerably more than the want Palestinians dead. Nick Fuentes is wrong, but he looks awfully right a lot of the time. Tucker is unfair, but he is not wrong. He is right that Jews should not be so enthusiastic about doing to Palestinians what they arguably need to do to Palestinians, and he is right that it is none of our business, and that if we stick our noses in, we are going to get covered in the blood of children and innocents. And Tucker and most of Maga are not Hitler Nazi Nazi Hitler Russia Russia Russia Nazi Hitler Putin.

Mossadnik says:

> what is it with banning Easter and Christmas in America?

Jim, what do you want me to say? If you need to, send American Jews to the ovens. (Personally, I’d much prefer it if you just sent them to Israel.)

What does it have to do with traditional Jewish Israelis? While I don’t really observe holidays myself (of any religion), I believe Easter and Christmas are wonderful.

Also, I’m opposed to the de-humanization of Palestinians. Heck, I’ve been posting here relentlessly throughout this war, and while some commenters here (who are not Israelis) actually cheered on the idea of genociding the Palestinians, I’ve been quite reluctant to do so.

By the way, can you or someone else give me links or sources to Jews banning Easter? Presumably, these were demonic Progressive Jews. But I honestly know nothing about it.

Easter and Christmas are freely, joyfully celebrated by Christians in Israel, and nobody seeks or wants them to stop celebrating.

And again – deal with your local Jews however you like. It has nothing to do with actual Israelis.

Jim says:

> Jim, what do you want me to say? If you need to, send American Jews to the ovens. (Personally, I’d much prefer it if you just sent them to Israel.)

Yeah, I want to send them to Israel, and you want them sent to Israel. But my point is that there are a whole lot of Jews who seem to want a whole lot more than a small patch of the middle east. It has long been extremely irritating, and if we lose the midterms, likely will result in genocide, as Maga is apt to take elections more respectfully than they deserve, and certainly more respectfully than the left takes them. A whole lot American Jews just want to kill us, and it is getting possible that with the assistance of hordes of imports and the propensity of whites to be wolf to whites, they might well get their way.

The Cominator says:

The problem jew following the Kirk assassination has been Ben Shapiro but Ben Shapiro like most bad jews is only a middleman for greater interest, the republican establishment the ones who loved the era of the Bush’s are hardly jewish at all. Fuentes and the other side of the great retardation the right has broken into isn’t jewish. If I were the Emperor/Dictator I’d have them both impaled for treason.

The H1B/OPT lobby is perhaps partially Jewish but probably not mostly jewish either and Trump not coming out against them hard is the right’s other problem. He needs to tell the tech bros that other than a limited carveout for East Asians on making chips any kind of continuance of labor visas is untenable now.

Tejano Bob says:

Forcibly sending them to Israel is “ethnic cleansing”; which the UN now considers “genocide” (derived from the Greek genos (“race,” “tribe,” or “nation”) and the Latin cide (“killing”) by… an American Polack jurist).

Ethnic cleansing, for which Wikipedia hilariously opens with the graphic “Expulsion of Jews in Europe from 1100 to 1600”, is not necessarily “killing”.

Mr.P says:

> Jim, what do you want me to say?

“Blah blah blah blah ….”

Unresponsive.

Take a time out, ffs, as has been asked of you nicely over and over and over.

Mossadnik says:

I’ll take a few weeks or so. Then I’m back!

Jim says:

Mossadnik is not unresponsive. He recognises that Jews have a problem getting on with other groups, and knows why, but being an Israeli nationalist, is disinclined to dwell on that too much.

All nationalists of different nations should stick together, upholding the Peace of Westphalia. And right now, Israel, by meddling in internal US politics, in Maga politics to cancel, deplatform, and demonetize the America First faction of Maga, which is damn near all of Maga, Israel is violating the Peace of Westphalia.

Core position on the peace of westphalia: Leave the other guy’s state religion alone. Israel, by attacking nationalists in the US and by banning Easter in the US, is not leaving us alone.

Daddy Scarebucks says:

Then what is it with banning Easter and Christmas in America?

Is this referring to something recent? I thought all of that happened 30-40 years ago, if not longer. Jews were disproportionately involved, no doubt, but I think enough time has passed for an equitable reconciliation. Equitable as in, “you shut up permanently about Muh Six Gorillion, and we’ll forgive you for trying to get Christians and Christianity banned from public life”. And then bring Easter back, properly, and if they start to complain again, then send the complainers away for good.

Maybe I’m being far too idealistic here, but then again, I’ve been to many neighborhoods where they still put up nativity scenes for Christmas with nary a peep from the neighborhood Jew. I think it’s possible that time and generational drift and some secularization have softened the old hatreds, or at least taught them how to keep their yaps shut for more than five minutes. Of course I am referring to the “traditionals” that Mossadnik refers to and not the Soros Jews who are just spiteful mutant leftists and will never stop.

As ever, I advocate giving decent people (assuming there are any) a chance to prove themselves decent, then being ruthless with the holdouts.

Jim says:

> > Then what is it with banning Easter and Christmas in America?

> Is this referring to something recent?

The suppression of Christmas “Happy Holidays”, non religious tree ornaments and wrapping paper, crackdown on Christmas in public, governmental, and quasi governmental spaces) is old but has steadily escalated.

The suppression of Easter is new, with the parable of the wicked vine dressers and the parable of the fig tree being banned a few days before 2024 Easter.

Alf says:

The most recent push relates to criminalizing the mention of the Jews’ involvement in the crucifixion of Jesus, effectively banning the story of Easter. Without knowing anyone behind the push, the content of what is being banned tells us enough of about who is involved.

SkipRamen says:

Generally speaking, non-intervention non-agression and neutrality should be goals.
However those are very hard to create and/or maintain, especially when others do not also.

Ukraine really should have given up Donetsk and Luhansk a long time ago. UA and the West lost their chance to win a pushout very early on by cowardly slowrolling their response to what their satellites and media were already telling them was going to happen six months before RU went in. Now UA has lost more, nothing but loss porn, and is in for a very cold dark winter. This dumbfuck Zelensky is eventually going to lose Odesa and the entire coast of the Black Sea.
Bad for Europe to not have that continuous land wall from Black Sea to Northern Sea. The Mongols and various South-Centrals came through there, and might soon again.

Chicago Mayor Johnson asks the United Nations to intervene and stop ICE “An attack on one of us is an attack on all of us,” Johnson told the UN last week. Who is us? The UN with funds from Democrats created the alien crisis in the US

No person or group has a “human right” to enter another country illegally. No foreign person or group is entitled to access US borders or the US economy. And, every nation has the right to expel foreign invaders with extreme prejudice. This means no “due process” as we understand it in America. No courtrooms. No lawyers and no debate.
If you are determined to be living in the country illegally, you get the boot immediately. Human rights have nothing to do with it and “international law” is irrelevant.

Details on Democrat NGO Gates Soros non-Profit USAID Foundations Corruption Money Laundering Astroturfed Protest-Industry
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/after-gates-foundation-cuts-ties-arabella-advisors-ceases-operations-reemerges-sunflower

5,000 Dead People Getting SNAP; 500,000 Getting Benefits Twice: Rollins “They choose not to work because taxpayers are footing the bill,” she added

The Turning
https://no01.substack.com/p/the-darkest-hours-are-before-the-f1e

https://www.kunstler.com/p/our-democracy-im-sure
Women taking over the actual machinery of the party has transformed mere politics into never-ending psychodrama and boosted the amplitude of political dirty-fighting to dangerous new levels Psychodrama … for the sake of emotional gratification, often mis-characterized as empathy or caring. It can transform easily into sadism
Regular order is something that healthy male psychology takes an interest in, since it entails defense of the culture, in this case, Western Civ and its heritage. That implies the uses of strength as opposed to the stratagems of weakness. It must acknowledge and rely on classic virtues such as fortitude, prudence, and a preference for what is — as opposed to wishes and fantasies.

Greens MP Robert Simms asked whether the scheme complied with South Australia’s lottery and fundraising laws. He told the chamber that “followers are being encouraged to buy words … in relation to abortion debate that is due to occur in the parliament this afternoon.”

“If there are battleships and the use of force, no matter how you think about it, it could constitute a survival-threatening situation,” Takaichi responded.
Tokyo must “stop playing with fire” and that it would be “act of aggression” if Japan “dares to meddles in the cross-Strait situation.” the dirty head that sticks itself in must be cut off.
“He told me, ‘I will never do it as long as you’re president,’” Trump said, regarding Xi.

$100+k govt job waste
https://openthebooks.substack.com/p/the-swamp-got-bigger-better-paid

Women will be much happier, with less mental and spending problems, when they realize their best natural role and expertise is within the home.

What’s clear is that the Democratic Party staked heavily on the Jeffrey Epstein email narrative. Bloomberg data shows that headlines mentioning “Epstein” were minimal throughout the shutdown, but as soon as Trump signed the bill to reopen the government, putting Democrats in a very unfavorable position and creating terrible optics in the news cycle, their propaganda cannon was fired. The post has since been deleted, since the Democrats figured out the smoking gun turned out to be an exploding cigar. But the internet is forever, as is evidence of what Trump was doing on Thanksgiving in 2017

SkipRamen says:

These corrupt white-robed Politicians don’t even bother to Invoke and relate the Life, Words, and Works of Jesus Christ responsive to the questions asked anymore. Maybe this one was just in a rush to get back to blessing blocks of ice for Climate Change… or perhaps the ice was a futile attempt to keep cool from burning for helping the Dark Forces disrupt the world into Civilizational Conflict and Wars via all their Imports, knowing full well that vast numbers of which they’ve been giving cover and path to are Muhammaden Commanded and Hell Bent on slaughtering Christians.
https://x.com/CatholicSat/status/1990883163334455495

Mossadnik says:

These heretics don’t recognize the common sense idea of “different countries for different people” – that it’s a good thing in and of itself. Nope, everything has to be a hodgepodge soup, apparently. Well, if everyone were perfectly identical, that would be true. Since everyone is not identical, it is not true. The Poop claims to represent Jesus, but he represents the Serpent.

Having said that, maybe at least for the time being it’s better to not completely alienate all the Catholics. You know –

The so-called Jews want the Messiah all for themselves, and the so-called Christians want him all for themselves, but when Jesus finally returns — as an Eskimo in Morocco, obviously — he would presumably seek to save absolutely everyone, or at least everyone whom it is possible to save. Even the Catholics, who currently number 1.406 billion.

But yeah, just as surely as the husband is the head of the wife, Christ is the head of the Church, and it’s most definitely not the Roman Catholic Church of Demons.

The New Crusaders will obviously not be Catholics.

SkipRamen says:

> The New Crusaders will obviously not be Catholics.

Christians of Faith currently seem to be the only ones expressing any awareness of, warning about, and will, regarding Islam’s resurgence into the West (besides the Jews).
But to fight an effective Crusade they need a leader, and a structure to organize, raise, and act under.
And this leader needs to have consultancy and theological counsel with Kings who also realize the danger to themselves of the resurgent Islam.
Protestants have no such effective organizement, and their counsel is personal, not as a multi-generational institution to the Kings and his heirs.
And since you’re unlikely to ever get the top Protestant 1-800-Televangelists from each Nation to agree on any joint task,
A legitimate Pope is the only one who can serve this role proper.
And the need is now, for other things as well.
So the Catholic Church must be cleaned out, and from among the based and biblical that remain, a legit Pope must arise, restore the Church, and begin the work.

FrankNorman says:

A legitimate Pope is the only one who can serve this role proper.
And the need is now, for other things as well.
So the Catholic Church must be cleaned out, and from among the based and biblical that remain, a legit Pope must arise, restore the Church, and begin the work.

Dude, you might as well wish for your war-pope to be leading his army into battle while riding on the back of that fluffy flying-dog creature from the Never Ending Story> movies while you’re at it.
If your complaint is there not being a leader who will unify Protestants for a Holy War, then any RCC pontiff, no matter how “based”, is an instant fail.
And if you really think that Televangelists are the leading figures… tell me you know next to nothing, without saying it.

No, if there’s going to be a new Christian Militant movement who will Remove Kebab across the West, this will almost certainly come from some nondenominational sect that people like you are hardly aware exists.

f6187 says:

FrankNorman:

fluffy flying-dog creature from the Never Ending Story …

Awwww. I love that thing.

No, if there’s going to be a new Christian Militant movement who will Remove Kebab across the West, this will almost certainly come from some nondenominational sect that people like you are hardly aware exists.

Intelligent and wise, rational and intuitive, loving and serious, hopeful and skeptical, joyous and mournful, strong and empathetic, wise as a serpent and innocent as a dove, high-minded and down-to-earth, just and merciful, bold and humble, powerful and protecting, competent and relaxed, godly and human, familiar with pleasure and suffering, comfortable with wealth and privation, loving life and not fearing death, acting with patience and urgency, with a mind like a little child and a mind like the Ancient of Days. Being perfect as our heavenly Father is perfect. Very simple. Probably some offshoot of the PCA.

Cloudswrest says:

This exemplifies where the Babylon Bee is at these days regarding MAGA, but it’s still funny.

https://babylonbee.com/news/tucker-carlson-builds-time-machine-to-kill-baby-churchill

f6187 says:

It’s tempting to think that would prevent the Lusitania fiasco, and prevent the WWI blockade of Germany that killed hundreds of thousands of people by starvation and disease, priming legions of surviving men (and women!) to cheer the rise of Hitler. But I doubt that trick would work.

You have to dial the machine back far enough to prevent the mutual defense treaties that led to WWI in the first place. But that’s too vague and non-specific.

Better to go back in time and tell the Archduke’s driver not to put the car into reverse. Or buy Princip a beer so he’s not still sitting on the route after the initial failure. Somehow ya gotta prevent WWI. But God is sovereign and you can’t unscramble an egg. You can only prevent the next “WWI”.

The Cominator says:

Yes I would kill baby lord gray…

Pax Imperialis says:

Worrying about the percentage of Whites left in America is democratic hysteria thinking in terms of vote banks. The English managed to subdue all of India with but a fraction of their own population (a mere trade company did it), not to mention much of the world. We’re all about constructing a post left world. A King. The real worry should be if there is a smart and cohesive White cohort left that can take power and then hold it. There is more than enough smart ones left, the problem is, and always has been, cohesion.

Speaking on the cohesion problem, as someone who is part White and part Asian, wtf. I just wanted to be something akin to a well pampered royal scholar in the palace, but the (mostly White and part Jewish) royal court wants to allow the barbarians at the gates in and burn everything down, me included, and many of my previous Asian and White scholar cohort, drunk off brow-nosing power kept stabbing me in the back by egging on the court no matter how many times I pointed out to them they too are on the chopping block… so I really don’t get racial based “nationalism”. Why the fuck should anyone on the right feel any solidarity with their “people” when there are plenty of bio-leninists within who would love to sacrifice you to literal Moloch. They may look like you, they may sound like you, but they’re demon possessed and want to steal everything from you, kill you, then sodomize your cold dead corpse. For all intents and purposes they may as well be nigger faggots.

It is partly why I’m willfully blind about what BAP may or may not be *hopefully* recovering from, and why, although I’m “not exactly allergic to the stuff” i.e. White Nationalism, was open to the very Jewish Yarvin. Anyone that gets in-between us [ME] and cthulhu, even if “1992 brained”, is a good thing.

Pax Imperialis says:

A shit ton of my views got discovered and recorded for time immemorial when I underwent a command investigation for some locker room talk. So while I did not ultimately get in trouble for my very naughty right wing views, I did for the locker room talk, I’m tracking I’m dead set for getting the Polish Officer treatment should the restoration fail. I’m completely at the mercy of the restoration succeeding. I’m completely fucked if it doesn’t, so for fuck sakes, if there’s anyone in the Trump administration listening, get it together.

Dolfin says:

Why the fuck should anyone on the right feel any solidarity with their “people” when there are plenty of bio-leninists within who would love to sacrifice you to literal Moloch.

– Because individualism is a losing strategy, and has been since prehistory.
– Because (particularly if you’re White/east Asian) your people’s best interests are also the best interests of humanity as a whole.
– Because our enemies want our people ALL dead, and they’re winning- so although there might be eugenic benefits to letting leftists kill themselves, we don’t have the time or numbers for ideological infighting.
– Primarily though, it’s because they’re your extended family, you are the ideological patriarch, and they are ideological children who, despite the ingratitude and stupidity, have the potential to eventually mature.

Sometimes people have to be saved from themselves. It may not respect their individual free will, but the authoritarian right-wing view sees us and leftist whites as part of the same body, thus they can and should be overruled because children shouldn’t get to do what they want if they don’t know any better.
Kind of like when your brain says “don’t do that” but other parts of your body say “DO IT” and your brain (ideally) overrides them. We are the well-conditioned brain saying “don’t eat the whole box of cookies/don’t sleep through your lecture/don’t fuck the diseased hooker” and they are the unconditioned parts of the body saying “DO IT”, because they either believe they are smarter than the brain (authoritarian leftism), or because they don’t believe that we are part of the same body (individualist leftism). It is our natural duty to override them before their impulsive stupidity ends up giving us AIDS (jews) or cancer (jeets) or some other terminal illness and ends up killing us all.

Jim says:

> > Why the fuck should anyone on the right feel any solidarity with their “people” when there are plenty of bio-leninists within who would love to sacrifice you to literal Moloch. They may look like you, they may sound like you, but they’re demon possessed and want to steal everything from you, kill you, then sodomize your cold dead corpse.

> – Because individualism is a losing strategy, and has been since prehistory.

Cooperating with defectors has been a worse losing strategy since long before we were remotely human.

The solution, of course, is a synthetic tribe, a tribe of co-religionists, and sinners get thrown out of the tribe,

The Cominator says:

If the story of the founding of Rome is to be believed it is probably not a winning strategy to cooperate with defectors but in some circumstances it can be a winning strategy in troubled times to form a synthetic tribe out of desperate men and outcasts. The founding patrician stock of Rome was (according to the Romans own history) supposedly a few men who had survived the sack of Troy and managed to flee across the sea they managed to get their numbers up to something military viable to hold territory by recruiting outcasts, bandits and pirates who wanted to go respectable, and runaway slaves.

Dolfin says:

Cooperating with defectors has been a worse losing strategy since long before we were remotely human.

That’s probably the least Christian sentence I’ve ever read.

The solution, of course, is a synthetic tribe, a tribe of co-religionists, and sinners get thrown out of the tribe,

That’s probably the most Christian sentence I’ve ever read.

SkipRamen says:

> racial based “nationalism”

White-type is an often used term that covers all sorts of people who are not physically of the white races, but are reliably white in all other non-physical regards of note.

When SHTF bad enough, the survival DNA response will always corral wagons and make the first cut based on race, then religion, then politic/language/etc. Not much anyone can do about that, unless someone vouches for them. DNA simply doesn’t have time or care in that situation to bother inquiring and sorting out all the intangibles that make up the type.

Any “nation” that has had its identity burned into DNA will make such a cut, not just the White ones.

And the Western nations are about to enter DNA Response Mode from all the various anti-identity triggers being forced and imported upon them.
FAFO.

Jim says:

> the survival DNA response will always corral wagons and make the first cut based on race, then religion, then politic/language/etc

I don’t think so. First is language, obviously, then religion, then race.

Whites are wolf to whites, always have been, always will be. Of all the races, we are the most capable in warfare, The other races are fought over, not fought with.

Reflect on the wars of great spice companies. When the whites hit India, the weapons technology was roughly comparable, both sides had cannons and rifles, but the whites were just better, had superior social organisation. And, pretty soon it was Dutch whites with Indian troops verses English whites with Indian troops versus French whites with Indian troops.

It is likely to be similar this time around, only with drones.

Karl says:

When whites hit India, the did so for profit. Alliances for profit are different from alliances for survival. A white man who came to India did not have to worry about his family – either he had none or it was safely in Europe.

When white families are threatened in America or Europe, the situation will be very different. Alliances will then be for survival.

In an alliance for survival, men don’t fight for money. Payment will be survival and brides. Which man would give his daughters and granddaughters to men of a different race?

SkipRamen has a point. I don’t expect the situation to be similar.

Jim says:

> Alliances will then be for survival.

Take a look at the mug shots of antifa. You want those guys in your coalition?

Hell no, you need to ally with Christian nationalists.

SkipRamen says:

> Take a look at the mug shots of antifa.

Statistical distinctions observable between groups indicate that a fork of DNA has already occurred and thus another race now exists. And/or that those with similar/compatible DNA are assembling which then aggregate into a new fork.

Mayflower Sperg says:

The abortion rate among Antifa sluts is close to 100%, so not much chance of starting a new race.

Edit_XYZ says:

It’s the other way around, Jim.
Race – or, rather, sub-species – is first, by a large margin.

Whites are wolf to whites?
Well, the anglo empires proved quite ruthless and blood-soaked.
Nevertheless, pretty much all wars between the same race turn out as rather limited affairs. That is, unless one side comes under the rule of foreign tribes, and is used as golems.
The wars of extermination, the ones that won’t end until the other side is gone, are always between different races.

Religion, language are on a distant second place when it comes to creating a tribe.
A country in which the same race has more than one religion or language will do fine. Of course, those are attack surfaces for foreign subversion.
A country in which different races have the same language and religion will implode, if not under a dictatorship keeping things under control.

Pax Imperialis says:

>pretty much all wars between the same race turn out as rather limited affairs

Right, because the bombing of Berlin, Hamburg, Cologne, Dresden, Düsseldorf, Essen, Stuttgart, and Nuremberg was totally limited affairs as well as the Soviet removal of Germans and Pols from parts of Eastern Europe.

The 30 years war was also a totally limited affair, I know 20-40% of the population “disappearing” might seem large, but I assure you they just found a new place to live.

Unit 731 and occupation of Nanjing was just limited operations as well. Totally nothing of note compared to historical norms.

etc etc etc…

Yeah, I don’t think being of the same “race” is going to prevent possibility of war of extermination. Hell, even being the “same people” didn’t prevent 7 kill stele or any number of internal purges that numbered in the millions of graves.

I would rather be a Korean living under the harsh colonial Japanese authorities than a Korean living under Kim Jong Il.

The reality is, you’re more likely to hate, want to kill, want to exterminate those you are intimately familiar with. And as such we see most homicides and mass killings follow the same pattern.

Edit_XYZ says:

Yes, the bombings of Berlin, Hamburg, Cologne, Dresden, Düsseldorf, Essen, Stuttgart, and Nuremberg were totally limited affairs by comparison to a war of extermination.
Also, do look into the ones who made them happen. See if you can spot…commonalities.
Also, the victorious western powers were the prime mover behind the removal of Germans from parts of Eastern – and Western – Europe.

The 30 years war was also a totally limited affair indeed, by comparison to a war of extermination.

Unit 731 and occupation of Nanjing were the japanese attempting a war of extermination. That’s because they considered themselves racially distinct from the chinese.

The 7 kill steele is what happens when psychos who are tough soldiers gain power. Notice, there is only ONE such example in history.
Do you perchance want to analyse the red vs white war in Russia, and see who were the combatants?

>I would rather be a Korean living under the harsh colonial Japanese authorities than a Korean living under Kim Jong Il.
The koreans disagree. Then and now.
During the Korean war, the americans flattened all their cities, killing more than 1/3 of them by bombings, but didn’t broke them. They had no illusions about what expects them, were they to lose.

>The reality is, you’re more likely to hate, want to kill, want to exterminate those you are intimately familiar with.
I see you really want to reach this conclusion.
Tough luck.

jaggard says:

>the bombing of Berlin, Hamburg, Cologne, Dresden, Düsseldorf, Essen, Stuttgart, and Nuremberg was totally limited affairs

Every single city and town in germany was bombed/razed to the ground. Of course the white anglo-US mafia had no qualms about genociding the white germans.

The funny thing is, your anti-racist views are correct, but your anti-racist views imply that you are a shill for a “left-wing” “multiracial” US empire. So doubly wrong from the “America First” perspective.

The Cominator says:

You can’t sense obvious sarcasm, even for a shill you aren’t very bright.

The Cominator says:

“The wars of extermination, the ones that won’t end until the other side is gone, are always between different races.”

Define race, I believe there was a Mongol tribe that betrayed Ghenghis Khan after they had submitted. They were wiped out man woman and child (looking it up the young children and women were merely enslaved).

Edit_XYZ says:

>Define race
Sub-species are populations that vary in morphology, and between which there is genetic distance, but less so than between different species.

>I believe there was a Mongol tribe that betrayed Ghenghis Khan after they had submitted. They were wiped out man woman and child (looking it up the young children and women were merely enslaved).
How civilized of the mongols, to spare the women and children. After treason, no less.

To repeat myself, the more one views the enemy as an ‘other’, a racial alien, the easier the war gets to be a war of extermination.
Cultural differences can also contribute to this, but they are a pale shadow by comparison to the otherness given by blood.

Conversely, the more one views the enemy as kindred, the less likely there will be a serious war. Wars of extermination between such peoples are almost unheard of.

The Cominator says:

Are the Serbs really that different racially from the Croats, and yet you should read about what the Ustashe did…

Edit_XYZ says:

>Are the Serbs really that different racially from the Croats, and yet you should read about what the Ustashe did…

You do know you’re reduced to marginal examples, yes?

Jim says:

> You do know you’re reduced to marginal examples, yes?

Nuts. We have every major and terrible war for the past four millenia, you have produced zero examples. There are no racial wars, wars that actually matter a lot, and have terrible cost, are usually white on white. Wars between races, such as the Zulu wars, are more police actions, that are settled decisively without huge cost to either side. The losing side may pay a huge cost for losing, in that it loses the land that is the basis for its survival, but the war itself is a relatively small affair.

And those in those small and insignificant conflicts between races that could arguably be called wars, the races were of different religions. You just don’t get “race” wars between adherents of a common faith.

I am going to put you on moderation for unresponsiveness unless you produce an argument instead of proclaiming victory.

Every major and terrible war for the last four millenia was whites on whites, and every substantial war that had different races on different sides was a religious war, resembling wars fought by the same religions with mixtures of races on both sides.

Every major war was whites versus whites, and almost every war was religion versus religion, defining religion broadly to include non theistic religions such as communism.

Sometimes you would have a war in which the adherents of one religion were almost all white, and the adherents of the other religion were almost all some other race, but such wars had much in common with the wars of those religions where there was not a racial difference between the sides. In this sense, there have been no wars between races, not counting grossly one sided police action type conflicts such as the feather Indian wars.

I am repeating myself, which is a waste of space, but the reason I am repeating myself is that you just sail right ahead and proclaim victory.

Make an actual argument or I am not letting your stuff through, if you just continue proclaiming victory, there can be no end to this except I silence you.

The Cominator says:

I gave the most pure example I could think of. But outside of Ancient Antiquity the most bloody and ruthless wars I can think of were generally ideological/religious wars between closely related groups . There are exceptions like the Steppe invasions where the racial outsider invaders in some places just mass exterminated people (in some places) but it wasn’t the rule. Yes the 30 years war was in some places a war of extermination and it was fought between North Europeans of different sects of christianity (supposing papists are christians).

Edit_XYZ says:

>Yes the 30 years war was in some places a war of extermination and it was fought between North Europeans of different sects of christianity (supposing papists are christians).

The 30 years war again.
The chinese went way over it during their civil wars. Compare the size of the armies, the ruthlessness of the battle and killing, etc.
When two different met and started a war, the chaces were, one of them went extinct.

The 30 years war was a pretty limited affair, much like all medieval wars in Europe.

Jim says:

> The 30 years war was a pretty limited affair, much like all medieval wars in Europe.

Nuts.

The thirty years war led to a fifty percent population decline of the major combatants, and a twenty to thirty percent population decline in the Holy Roman Empire overall. Whites are wolf to whites. Wars between different races seldom reach such severity.

Race wars just do not happen. Either the sides are so unequal that the inferior race is just brushed aside and ignored, or they are the in fact wars of religion, similar to the wars of religion whites have with each other. For example the wars that the East India Company had with the Sikhs, or every Afghan war for the past two centuries.

The East India Company took India in the Battle of Buxar, which was not a battle with any Indian races, nor a battle between the East India Company and the Mughal Empire, which had ceased to exist some time previously, but a battle for control of India between the East India Company and Shia Islam.

In the conflict that was settled by the battle of Buxar, if you were Shia, regardless of race or kingdom, you were on the Shia side, if you were Hindu with Hindu leadership, you were sitting it out regardless of race, and if you were Christian or had Christian leadership, you were fighting it out with the Shia.

Racial unity simply never happens among whites, and because only whites matter militarily, race wars just do not happen.

Mossadnik says:

I’m on a break, but not a total one, and I lurk.

Racially different people are also spiritually different, hence should live separately – that’s what different countries are for, but also, that’s what different faiths are for.

If Christ, Krishna, Buddha, Confucius, and Laozi were gathered in the same room, would probably be able to get along.

Now, Moses would keep his distance from all these, and would be correctly viewed with suspicion, but then he generally had no far-reaching ambitions; he was humble.

Mohammed — and Satan himself, who has many different agents all over the place, by the way — would obviously try to blow them all up in infernal cataclysm, so y’know, sometimes conflict is unavoidable.

I just speculate, but I doubt that Christ would desire to “eliminate” Buddha, Confucius, and the more benevolent folks who started non-Semitic and even non-Aryan religions. They have their proper Roles amongst their respective civilizations/races.

What God has put asunder, let not man join together.

Edit_XYZ says:

> > Wars between different races seldom reach such severity. Race wars just do not happen.

> Nuts

[*deleted*]

Jim says:

So where are your examples of a race war?

And don’t say the feather Indians — that was a police action, more than a war, and no Christian feather Indians were participants.

There are wars between people of different faiths who also happen to be different races, but these a usually mild, or at worst comparable, to when the participants are those faiths, but the same race, or racial coalitions.

You say race wars are genocidal. Give me an example. Have there been any race wars anywhere ever that people actually paid much attention to?

Who, what, when, where? Where are these race wars? When did they happen?

Competition between races often results in one of the races disappearing, but the war part of that competition tends to be fairly insignificant. The disappearance happens slowly over generations postwar.

Consider the Afghan wars:

Communist faith versus Punjabi Islam. Different races.
Converged gay Islam versus Punjabi Islam, same race
Progressivism versus Punjabi Islam, Different races.

Race was just never a significant factor in the Afghan wars. It seldom is in any war. The only example that I can think of are the Zulu wars. But even that was not a race war. The British were fighting Zulus, not fighting blacks.

If you have any examples, what are they?

White on white wars: First and Second World War, and most wars that anyone cares about during the past four millenia. When the Romans conquered Egypt, it was ruled by whites. It was a white on white war, even if Cleopatra’s brother rounded up some brown cannon fodder.

Wars of the East India company: People of different races, but also different religions, and relatively low intensity low cost operations — compare the war for India between the East India company and Shia Islam, with the internal wars of different branches of Islam, and the wars of Islam and Hinduism.

Edit_XYZ says:

>So where are your examples of a race war?

I see you just deleted my post where I put some examples, Jim.

Let’s see.
You against the amerindians, utterly exterminating them. I did remark how amerindians survive today only as mischlings.
Quite ruthless.

The mongols against the chinese, russians, europeans.

Or how about the japanese wanting to eliminate the inferior chinese, in WW2?
Or the german fascists, to eliminate the inferior slav untermenschen? They had quite different rules of engagements than against the english.

Or how about you against the nord koreans? And many other imperial interventions, all over the world.

Pretty much any primitive tribal war resulting in the elimination of the rival tribe.

Perhaps something more recent?
How about the jews against the palestinians?
Or how everyone in Syria was – and is – aligned on racial – not religious – lines?

It’s not hard to name such wars, Jim.

f says:

There are no race wars. Never have been never will be. Sometimes, often, you have wars in which one side is almost all of one race, and the other side almost all of the other race, but the war is not about race, and most people of one or both of the races are not involved. Often almost everyone of one religion is on one side, but people of the same race but a different religion are not on that side, and similarly for the other side — so though almost everyone on one side is of one race, and almost everyone of the other side is of a different race, most people of that race are not on that side, making it not a race war, but a holy war, as for example American and the Russian Afghan wars.

> > So where are your examples of a race war?

> You against the amerindians, utterly exterminating them.

Stupid commie lies from the race baiters.

Disease exterminated them before the feather Indian wars, and failure to reproduce exterminated them after the feather Indian wars. Their casualties in the Indian wars were not particularly high. It was more a series of police actions than a war.

Nor did these police actions seize their lands. Rather, they enforced deals the Indians had already made selling their land, which the Indians had reneged on after receiving payment, or they transferred land from the Indian tribe to the individual Indian, who was then apt, over time, over years and generations, to then sell it to the individual white man.

The tribes sold their lands for whisky, and the individual Indian sold his personal land for whisky. No race war involved.

We did not wipe out the Indians by war, but by germs and whiskey, and we did not seize their lands by war, but by whiskey.

The indians did not disappear due to war, but lost out in peaceful competition in the rural economy. They generally became cattle hands, and such, and were peacefully absorbed into the majority white population. It was not white soldiers that defeated them, but white germs and white whisky.

> The mongols against the chinese, russians, europeans.

And how did the arabs defeat the Mongols? By converting them to Islam.

How did the Chinese defeat the Mongols. By sinicizing them.

Which makes it look more like religious war than race war.

For two centuries Mongols dominated the Russiaa. Estimates are that that war, which might plausibly be called a race war, reduced the population of the Russias from seven and a half million to seven million, which makes it quite insignificant compared to the thirty year religious civil war of the Holy Roman Empire, though nastier than World War One and two.

> How about the jews against the palestinians?

By all genetic measures, the majority ethnicity of the Palestinians is genetically indistinguishable from the majority ethnicity of the Israeli Jews. That is a pure religious war, absolutely nothing to do with race. Also Palestinians are infamous among arabs for characteristics similar to those that make Jews infamous among whites.

That is Islam versus Judaism. Judaism is sort of a race. Islam is not. Israel is at war with Islamic Palestinians. Israel is not at war with Christian Palestinians. Therefore, a religious war, not a race war. Similarly, though the East India company had wars with Hindus, Sikhs, Sunni Muslims, and Shia Muslims, these were separate wars, different people, different places, different times.

Mossadnik says:

Machiavelli famously wrote,

It ought to be remembered that there is nothing more difficult to take in hand, more perilous to conduct, or more uncertain in its success, than to take the lead in the introduction of a new order of things. Because the innovator has for enemies all those who have done well under the old conditions, and lukewarm defenders in those who may do well under the new. This coolness arises partly from fear of the opponents, who have the laws on their side, and partly from the incredulity of men, who do not readily believe in new things until they have had a long experience of them.

https://www.gutenberg.org/files/1232/1232-h/1232-h.htm

For world peace, all nations should conform, in their own ways, to the Law of Christ.

However, some nations will likely accept Christ (and Christian principles) disguised as something more… culturally familiar. It’s not only demons who wear skinsuits.

Ahem, ahem.

Edit_XYZ says:

F
>Stupid commie lies from the race baiters.

That quite the chip on your shoulder you have there, amerimutt.

As for the rest, time is valuable.
And between Jim liberally deleting my posts, your transparent sophistry and your butthurt, I have no intention of wasting mine by conversing with you.

i says:

@Jim

Race wars generally doesn’t happen. With one exception. Haiti. All the White French were all killed. Men, women and children. Excepting those married to Haitian officers.

When the French Army attempted to retake the Island they were decimated by disease and defeated. However the Dominican Republic was able to repeatedly defeat the Haitians. And the Island was divided ever since.

Plus it looks like the Dominicans were much less cruel to the slaves than the French. And their economy was much less slave based with subsequently much less Black African slaves. This made them far less likely to have the sheer brutal slave revolts that the French part of the Island had.

When Whites aren’t properly Organized. Other races are Wolf to Whites.

S says:

“Race wars generally doesn’t happen. With one exception. Haiti. All the White French were all killed. Men, women and children. Excepting those married to Haitian officers.”

The rebellion started in 1791; the massacre happened in 1804. It more closely tracks to escalating political insanity then a racial struggle.

Neurotoxin says:

“Race wars just do not happen.”

Just weighing in to get it on the record that at least one regular here disagrees with this. (Dolfin and Edit_xyz have argued with it, but they’re not regulars.)

Jim says:

> Nevertheless, pretty much all wars between the same race turn out as rather limited affairs.

Compare the wars of the British Empire with every other race on the planet. Most of them, nearly all of them, were very limited.

The war of the British Empire with the Boer (whites) was total and near genocidal.

And World Wars one and two were total.

Whites are wolf to whites. It is always whites versus whites. Been that way for millenia. Our wars with each other are total and terrible, our wars with other races are more police actions.

Edit_XYZ says:

The British Empire didn’t war the primitives, they gathered them as subjects.

>The war of the British Empire with the Boer (whites) was total and near genocidal.
I wonder why.
Also, the World Wars were far short of extermination wars, despite the best efforts of many that wormed themselves into leadership positions.

>Whites are wolf to whites. It is always whites versus whites. Been that way for millenia. Our wars with each other are total and terrible, our wars with other races are more police actions.

What is striking when reading of the wars between whites in medieval Europe was how limited affairs they were. The chinese were far more hard cre with their wars.
What is striking when reading of wars between two different races is how easily they end up as extermination wars.

If you think other races will be anything other than allies of convenience, you’re setting yourself up for some nasty surprises.

The Cominator says:

The wars of the middle ages tended to be limited because the state in the middle ages was limited. The reality of medieval states was that countries had not one government but a patchwork of numerous governments of limited power. The wars could still get more total when a large portion of the aristocracy were directly and enthusiastically interested. This happened with the Hundred Years War and the Wars of the Roses. Henry Tudors England was the first sort of truly semi centralized state to come out of the middle ages and he could only impose it really because he was the victor of a protracted and nasty civil war and the “Welsh usurper” who claimed the throne not through right but just by force was considered preferable to “the evil days of civil war”.

Varna says:

It pays to remember the splintered nature of reality in much of pre-modern times.
Language and custom were not unified, beyond a barebone structure maintained by church/state.
You leave your village, twenty miles into every direction language starts becoming unrecognizable, local custom and folk variations of shared belief become alice through the looking glass.

Thus any professional traveler, be they merchants, warriors, priests, or other, either became brilliant intuitive ethnographers, or perished.

If you travel slowly from say Norway, south through France, to Sicily, or South-east, via the big rivers, through Poland, Russia, Ukraine, to the Black Sea and then Kazaria and Persia, or West, to England, then Ireland, then North America, it’s just a matter of gradually accumulating degrees of difference compared to where you started from.

Only if you abruptly run into cannibal pigmies or the like, do you start to wonder “are these proper people, or some animal-demon species”?

And even this is not too alien, as most people spent their life in constant contact with animals, knowing how to read their behavior cues, how to manage them, how to raise them, how to kill them, and when the times are tough, how to screw them. ‘Animal’ as a category was not as alien and foreign, as it is to modern city folk.

Likewise with demons and the supernatural. Likely by the time you’re hungry, exhausted, vitamin deficient and so forth, as you sleep alone in the forest, or on the thirtieth day of a phantasmagorical journey across the oceans, or the desert etc, the supernatural comes a knocking, especially if you’re half asleep, and you deal with it with whatever tools you have – charms, amulets, prayer etc.

“Race” as a concept becomes possible in the modern sense around the 18th or 19th century.
Before that it’s a world of peoples who can communicate only through shared “international” languages or a simple system of sounds and gestures, who are very quick to identify local custom and belief and translate it into what they know (as we read in ancient Greek treatises about foreigners “and these barbarians have a god known as xxxxx, which is obviously an inferior version of Zeus, etc”), and the more experienced they are the more unphased they are by difference.

Hence Russian explorers in Siberia and European explorers in the Americas instantly figuring out how to communicate with the local neolithic tribes. Back in the day, “The Other” begins a day’s journey into any direction.

As others have said, religion and perceived kinship and struggle for prestige and resource played a vastly more important role than the modern “race”. Today’s “race”, much like “class” or even “nation” are products of conscious categorizing efforts by groups of learned men trying to unify and organize (and control) amorphous populations and territories via different new categories and definitions.

We do have, in empirical reality, different demographic clusters with differing traits, but the ways to categorize and define them are numerous, frequently quite artificial, often mutually exclusive, which the modern leftists tries to turn to his advantage through “intersectionalism”.

Just like “homosexuals and bisexuals” are in a sense simply a group of perverts with specific behavior traits, and “trans people” are simply mentally unstable peeps into body modification, the empirical reality is always there underneath the superstructure of concepts, yet the concepts rarely grow organically from this reality, rather they are frequently developed and applied top-down, in order to achieve specific results.

Dolfin says:

Today’s “race”, much like “class” or even “nation” are products of conscious categorizing efforts by groups of learned men trying to unify and organize (and control) amorphous populations and territories via different new categories and definitions.

Your idea of “race” is just that- an idea. Your “race war” is a war of ideas.

ACTUAL race war has nothing to do with ideas, or religions, or any such nonsense. All that shit gets tossed out the window when you’re being faced with extinction. It’s like trying to reason with someone who’s physically punching you.

Varna says:

When your replies indicate that you read imaginary posts with imaginary content and “message”, this means you’re deep in feminine/negro style hysteric spiraling.

Which is understandable, the times being what they are, but if you don’t get a handle on the hysterics, and the corresponding warping of empirical reality, this will drive you mad and get you killed.

Entering a state of primitive frenzy can be good in a limited number of situations, when you’re in battle-mode, in a context that does not require rational analysis for the duration of whatever battle is taking place. If, however, a guy stays in primitive frenzy mode for too long, it burns up his body, nerves, and mind.

A typical devil’s bargain, where first you get a sense of perfect moral clarity, supernatural smarts, and readiness for action, and bask in this state for weeks or months or years, and then the bill comes in and you’re screwed, possibly forever. Like a lifestyle of externally administered stimulants, minus the chemical toxicity. Gives you an initial high that feels like it can last forever with no consequence, then suddenly you’re ill and crazy.

Just because these days the above most visibly affects leftists, doesn’t mean this is a leftist-only disease. It affects anyone who succumbs.

Hence control of one’s passions (aside from infrequent moments when it is reasonable to unleash them) being a core virtue of the sane citizen since antiquity. If the post you believe you reacted to contains “messages” such as “negroes don’t exist” or “negroes are amazing if you pretend they’re not negroes”, this means it’s time to take a step back and breathe and do something else for a while.

Dolfin says:

Tell me, what kind of “disease” ensures one’s survival at all costs?

An irrational fighter may lose to a rational one, but he still beats someone who won’t fight at all. Right now, whites won’t fight at all.

Mossadnik says:

Okay, screw “taking a break” “muh ragequit” – I consider Tolstoy’s weltanschauung to be deeply flawed, guaranteed to result in self-extinction. His was indeed “Hippy Jesus.” Pretty sure that has nothing to do with the real thing.

Alf says:

That was the lamest break in the history of breaks

Mr.P says:

Excellent post. Thank you. (Good reminder, “The past is a foreign country” and such.)

Dolfin says:

I don’t think so. First is language, obviously, then religion, then race.

Which adhere most closely to Gnon?

Race – No sapience required. Biological, physical. High priority.
Language – Some sapience required. Medium priority.
Religion/Politics/Creed/Etc. – Much sapience required. Abstract, ideal. Low priority.

Racial nationalism is the starting point of any true Gnon-oriented religion, then language builds on top of it, then religion.
Think Maslow’s hierarchy of needs, writ large.

Violent conflict happens when two competitors are close in power, not when there is a huge difference in power. This is why a race war hasn’t happened yet, because there has never been a real threat to white dominance (aside from maybe first-millennium Islam).

Jim says:

Organised violence beats unorganised violence. Race is not a thing that violence can be organised around.

Your ingroup may well be all of a single race, but not everyone of that race can be part of your ingroup.

It is a lot easier to organise a prison gang if you only accept members of a particular race, but you are not going to accept anyone of that race as a member, and you are not going to be automatically at war with prison gangs that only accept members of a different race.

You organise on the basis that facilitates cooperation — hence language comes first, then religion.

Mossadnik says:

Exactly so, Jim.

Ingroup vs. outgroup should be defined along spiritual lines. It is not a denial of the reality of race/ethnicity/genetics; but it’s a superior “organizing principle,” if you will.

Dolfin says:

Race is not a thing that violence can be organised around.

Hitler would like a word with you.

Your ingroup may well be all of a single race, but not everyone of that race can be part of your ingroup.

It is a lot easier to organise a prison gang if you only accept members of a particular race, but you are not going to accept anyone of that race as a member,

Of course, which is where language and eventually religion/politics/etc. step in.

you are not going to be automatically at war with prison gangs that only accept members of a different race.

Gnon says that you are, whether you like it or not.

You organise on the basis that facilitates cooperation — hence language comes first

Would you rather your daughter marry a French-speaking white man, or an English-speaking nigger?

Jim says:

> > It is a lot easier to organise a prison gang if you only accept members of a particular race, … you are not going to be automatically at war with prison gangs that only accept members of a different race.

> Gnon says that you are,

Observed behavior: Prison gangs for the most part only accept members of a particular race. Christian Churches mostly have congregations of a particular race. Lunch counters at the school cafetaria mostly only have people of a particular race at the counter.

But most of the time, most prison gangs are not at war with other prison gangs.

Blacks are not inherently a problem. They are problem because white liberals make sure that blacks cause problems for their near enemies.

In the current war in the Ukraine, the Russians are not at war with guns, and the Ukrainians are not at war with guns. They are at war with people wielding guns. And Detroit was burned down and its people driven out by people wielding niggers.

Niggers are just bipedal bioweapons. Niggers, guns, and women lack agency. People who have agency have wars with other people who have agency.

The Cominator says:

“Hitler would like a word with you.”

Hitler’s political movement was built around religious lines, around people who converted to his religion of national socialism it was secondarily built around people who did not accept the religion but thought he’d be a lesser evil than the Weimar Republic or at least a lesser evil than the communists.

His army was built around national lines, all non Jewish whites in Germany even if they had slavic names were Aryan enough to be in the Wehrmacht. The SS was more exclusive yes originally (but during the war not so much, to the point there was a jew who escaped the holocaust by signing up with the SS who were not at all interested in looking into his racial background when they needed men to fight in Russia).

Mossadnik says:

> You organise on the basis that facilitates cooperation — hence language comes first, then religion.

Not sure about that last part, Jim.

Communication is important, but ultimately language can be used to deceive people – it very often is, in fact.

But the spiritual followers of Christ (for example) do recognize each other, even through some or other language barriers.

Mossadnik says:

> Violent conflict happens when two competitors are close in power

Sharing similar (not necessarily exactly identical) attitudes or principles for conflict prevention/resolution is a good way to avoid that.

Those attitudes/principles, however, may derive from quite different sources. For instance, if America de-pozzes from Progressivism and follows Christ, and China de-pozzes from Marxism and returns to Buddha-Confucius-Laozi, I believe that a Westphalian Peace between the two can be maintained.

Don’t get me wrong – personally, I really wouldn’t mind it if China also turned to Christ. But my point is, divergent worldviews need not necessarily become conflicting worldviews.

Mossadnik says:

Perhaps, on an even deeper level, what I’m trying to say is this:

We’re all inside the mind of God, manifestations of His ideas. We’re in Him, and through His spirit, He’s in us. For this brain to be a smiling happy brain, the avatar must remove the toxins, the tumors, the refuse. But while he is the best idea, the avatar is not the only good idea. If you listen to the Skeptics, for instance, they’ll tell you that the avatar himself derives from various previous ideas. Perhaps, excuse the profanity, it’s a work in progress, and many different elements can contribute thereto. Maybe Buddha, for example, was Willed for a good purpose, as a physician, albeit not The Physician.

The Ultimate Teleology is complex and multifaceted.

The Gasman says:

“Accuse your enemies of sedition, and then don’t punish them.”
t. Sun Tzu

A2 says:

Thomas Crook, the would-be Trump assassin, used they/them pronouns and was quite possibly into furries. I’m not familiar with ‘muscle mommies’ but we can all take a guess.

https://nypost.com/2025/11/17/us-news/thomas-crooks-used-they-them-pronouns-had-obsession-with-violence-and-muscle-mommies-sources/

Hesiod says:

In other nutjob news, the first convictions of Antifa as a terrorist organization occurred yesterday with five minions pleading guilty to dastardly deeds:

https://archive.ph/joMdL

The source is Ngo, but as a news article from The Post Millennial.

Aidan says:

“which they will with Trump unsuccessfully attempting to cancel Majorie Taylor Green and Thomas Massie“

Right now, there is a massive op by the left in concert with cuckservatives, trying to break the political will of the MAGA coalition and get back to business as usual. Massie and MTG are part of this op, and need to be brought to heel. There are dirty things going on behind the scenes in the administration, with the cucks blocking the patriots from engaging in the necessary actions: prosecution of the institutional left and mass deportations.

SkipRamen says:

Musk Calls Out Soros’ Radical Son: “Can You Stop Trying To Destroy Civilization?”
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/musk-calls-out-soros-radical-son-can-you-stop-trying-destroy-civilization

Socialism Is A Political Doctrine, Not An Economic One
https://mises.org/mises-wire/socialism-political-doctrine-not-economic-one

SkipRamen says:

*Nigerian Gunmen Abduct Over 200 Christian Children, 12 Teachers In Boarding School Attack*

Only reason Islamic mass slaughter enslavement rape persecution are not yet wholesale in the West (among all the single knife/vehicle attacks rape gangs thieves mosques terror money and so on), is not because of the Police in the West whose Leftist Political bosses keep their hands tied useless while defunding and marching against the Police, but because Islam is still afraid of the People, People who would and should already have thrown them all out, starting with their Traitor Politicians.
But not for much longer.
Islam is gaining, such that Nigeria and Syria are now freely openly slaughtering masses of innocent people.
And Globo Politicians ally with them, welcome them with open arms, do massive trade and weapons deals with Islam.
And Lefty news cheers the rise.

Eventually Islam will do a China… bank the freebies, develop, copy, clone, innovate, dominate, empire.

Quit helping your enemies.
Keep them off your land and stuck in the dark ages.

Contaminated NEET says:

Oh no! Not our Cherished Nigerian Christians!

Dolfin says:

Oh no! Not our Cherished Nigerian Christians!

Haven’t you heard? Religion is more important than race!
You’re telling me you’d rather have your daughter marry a white *heathen* instead of a good Christ-fearing African?

(thanks for illustrating why race is more important than religion)

I says:

Sounds like you are posing a false priority and binary. Christian Nationalism is first loving your own ethnic group and the overflow benefits Christian allies.

Amor Amoris. You think Christians couldn’t set up a training program with good local leadership for the Christian Nigerians with a military supply chain to enable them to win the fight.

Contaminated NEET says:

Allies? Are you insane? What have Our Cherished Nigerian Christians ever done for us? What could they even do should they be inclined to ally with us? At best, they are an object of telescopic philanthropy, way out there in Borrioboola-Gha on the left bank of the Niger, a bottomless pit into which we can pour our resources. At worst they are a tool of our enemies, employed to shame us, replace us, vote against us, and if they feel like it, rob, rape, and kill us. I make a show of my lack of concern for them because that concern is a weakness that will only be used against me. And if you think the Cherished Nigerian Christians are going to repay our charity with anything but resentment and betrayal, you must have gone blind and deaf back before they passed the Hart-Celler Act.

>But NEET, only once our own needs are met should we help the distant Cherished Nigerian Christians of Borrioboola-Gha! And nobody is advocating bringing them here!

That’s weak. How can you sit here, warm and safe, drinking your $10 lattes and typing your little comments while they are dying out there in Borrioboola-Gha? They’re dying horribly, and when they live, they live in miserable poverty with no opportunity, and you have the power to end it, just by giving up a few small luxuries! Disgusting. If the Cherished Nigerian Christian is truly your brother, you’re bound to give him the shirt off your back if he needs it. And if you don’t, someone who does is your moral superior. As is someone who gives him my shirt. You say you don’t want to bring him here – well, your moral superior over there does, and his commitment is going to defeat your lukewarm unprincipled exception. We’ve seen this. This is what happens. This is why every Christian denomination in the USA is hell-bent on importing every black or brown body on Earth to live on welfare, petty crime, and voting Left. You can make all the subtle distinctions and Biblical arguments you like, but grant that we have an obligation to help them, and you will always appear mean, weak, and hypocritical next to the suicidal altruists and Machiavellian subversives who promise to help them even more at my expense.

If the warriors of Islam kill every Nigerian Christian man, rape every Nigerian Christian woman, and convert every Nigerian Christian child, it makes no difference to me. In fact , it would probably be better for me because then they can’t be used as pawns against me.

i says:

What’s with your crashout lol. Is helping them fight back in Nigeria equivalent to mass immigration into our own countries, welfare and henceforth harming our known neighbors?

Brothers in Christ actually help each other. And I don’t care if that comes off as weak to you. That is what people who actually believe in Jesus Christ do. And the corresponding Map of Reality that comes with the territory.

If you don’t believe in the Supernatural and the Holy Spirit actually binding all actual believers in Christ. So be it.

But I ain’t apologizing for my opinion.

Contaminated NEET says:

>Is helping them fight back in Nigeria equivalent to mass immigration into our own countries, welfare and henceforth harming our known neighbors?

Yes. Yes it is. You can try to say it doesn’t have to be, but it always is. The story has played out more than enough times:

1) Let’s go to war as an act of charity to help those poor brown people overseas – it’s our obligation. They’re dying!
2) That didn’t go so well – now we have to bring them here. Especially the ones that helped us in our war – we owe it to them. They were our allies who fought and bled for us.
3) Oh, you don’t like them underbidding your labor, leeching off your safety net, and committing crimes with impunity? Well, maybe you should have thought about that before you went over there and ruined their country!

>But I ain’t apologizing for my opinion.

Nor am I. Fuck the Nigerian Christians.

Jim says:

> > Is helping them fight back in Nigeria equivalent to mass immigration into our own countries, welfare and henceforth harming our known neighbors?

> Yes. Yes it is. You can try to say it doesn’t have to be, but it always is.

Nah. No it is not. Never happened. — Because the one group Globohomo never intervenes in favor of is Christians. Just as they don’t want to import Boers, and they don’t want to import refugees from communist genocides, they don’t want to import Christians.

Contaminated NEET says:

>they don’t want to import Christians.

What do you think all the mestizos are? Sure, they’d prefer Muslims, or Hindus, or animists, or any other religion, but as long as they’re not White, globohomo knows they’ll join the coalition against Yakub’s blue-eyed devilspawn.

Jim says:

> > they don’t want to import Christians.

> What do you think all the mestizos are.

Probably most of them are kind of sort of Christian, but they are allowed in because some of them worship the old gods of Mexico.

They are not imported on the basis of Christian identity, and globohomo are preferentially importing members of the Cartels, who worship the old Gods.

Contaminated NEET says:

>they are allowed in because some of them worship the old gods of Mexico.

They’re allowed in because they’re a vote bank, because they’re cheap labor, because they weaken us, because they attack us, because they replace us, and because our traitorous upper classes imagine that they’re easier to control than we are. Would globohomo prefer non-Christians? Of course. But they’ll take Christians as long as they’re non-White, and they’ve demonstrated this on a scale of millions.

They’re bringing in African Christians by the million already. At my state job, half the Blacks are newly arrived Africans, and yeah, they’re Christian.

>most of them are kind of sort of Christian

What do you think Our Cherished Nigerian Christians are? It’s 90% nigger voodoo with a 10% candy coating of superficially understood Christian imagery and language. There’s spellcasting, shapeshifting, and animal sacrifices.

Jim says:

> They’re allowed in because they’re a vote bank, because they’re cheap labor, because they weaken us, because they attack us, because they replace us, and because our traitorous upper classes imagine that they’re easier to control than we are

Yes, all of that, but also because the Cartels provide muscle for the Democrats, and because the Cartels worship the Old Gods.

They tolerate, barely, Mexican Christianity, what little remains of it, because it is Vatican converged. They hate and fear black African Christianity, because it is not Canterbury converged.

suones says:

…one group Globohomo never intervenes in favor of is Christians.

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA…. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH… HAHAHAHAHAHA

I would claim this is ignorant and false, but since you’re not ignorant, I will chalk this down to enemy payload.

Christianity and local converts have been agents of Evil Empire for as long as the Jesuits (later Anglicans) have been in power. It was inherited from the British EMpire by the Global American Empire. It continued right through Vietnam, which was also a conflict of Buddhists vs Christians — it was funny watching two subversives duke it out.

Show me a Christian convert and I’ll show you a traitor and a spy. Christian subversion is continuing even today in places like Palghar (adjacent to Mumbai ffs), to say nothing of attempts by missionaries in forests and hills, backed by American money and muscle.

Even the Lightbringer AntiChrist himself interceded on behalf of Christian losers.[1][2]

Any Christianity that is not NATIONAL CHRISTIANITY should be suppressed and eradicated, like in Japan, with extreme prejudice. I repeat, the only tolerable form of Christianity is NATIONAL CHRISTIANITY.

The only real “Church” in India, the Keralite one (probably descended from the one founded by Disciple Thomas) has correctly surmised that its existence is actually threatened by Baphomet and Missionary Christianism alike, and has sought refuge with their Hindu Nationalist brothers, to much kvetching in the mainstream “Christian” press.[3]

Choice quote:

The Kerala Christians should listen to other Christian voices too, not just the fundamentalist, right-wing groups that thrive in the US and parts of India.

LOL at “other Christian voices” who mostly want to kill them.

[1] https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/politics-and-nation/barack-obama-spoke-about-reality-christians-on-us-prezs-comments/articleshow/46147976.cms
[2] https://www.ncregister.com/news/indian-christians-encouraged-by-obama-s-hard-talk-supporting-religious-liberty
[3] https://mattersindia.com/2024/11/donald-trump-and-kerala-christians/

Dharmicreality says:

@suones,

Yes, the Christianity that worships faraway “oppressed people and people of color” and “brings light to dark places” and to “empower marginalised and weaker communities” ought to be severely suppressed especially in states where non-universalist religions are followed.

We had an argument with some others here a while back along the lines of whether evangelism is a fundamental part of Christianity or not.

Handi says:

Jesus did say to preach to the nations, and if a town rejects you to kick the dust off your sandals. Then we see Paul and Silas going around to the temples to argue with the local priesthood. So it would square that the gospel is mainly to go through “official channels” rather than proselytizing at the disconnected rabble.

The adversary demands an equal podium simulcast to a million one-seat theaters, each a neutral venue for the debate between individual vice and atomized virtue. Quite insidious.

dieotr says:
Mmantor says:

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Jim says:

Anyone who wants to tell us what Christianity really is needs to first affirm that Christ is King, born in Bethlehem, died at Jerusalem, and is, is from before the beginning of the world. Through him all things were created. Fully God and fully man. God is three and God is one.

ab12 says:

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Show your proof [*deleted*]

Alf says:

You have no idea what you are asking proof for, just that when one shill account gets caught in the spamfilter, your script tells you that another shill account must attack the spamfilter.

But for reference, your comment (and a million like it) are ongoing proof that the right is constantly under siege by enemy entryists, who all tell us “Hail fellow white Christian! We should declare war on Putin, Easter and Trump!”

SkipRamen says:

Throne, Altar, and Rave… it is Written.

https://x.com/sciencegirl/status/1991876210742497661

Pax Imperialis says:

Not a fan, but hey, at least it’s better than the endless evangelical sing along slop in 99% of converged American churches.

SkipRamen says:

Not enough people follow conspiracy news and analysis channels.
Those channels have very often pieced things together well before such massive shit as this USAID Colour-Rev of the USA crap ever hits the news.
And a lot of evidence on things never makes it to the surface news.

https://x.com/MikeBenzCyber/status/1991981758561305070

Hunter’s Laptop was being pasted on some channels over a month before it first hit the news.

FormerSlave says:

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The Cominator says:

https://x.com/DionysusPS/status/1992136127567044624
Profound twatter thought
“we are the first society to worship women not as symbols of fertility but as emblems of sterility.”

Mossadnik says:

Many men don’t want to disappoint the women in their lives, e.g., if you have a hippy female friend from the friendzone with whom you smoke weed and eat shrooms and travel the Holy Land, and who treats you very decently – it’s very emotionally difficult to come across before her as “le raging incel,” and oh boy, chicks do pay attention to very subtle non-linguistic cues, so even though you know exactly what the solution is, you’re afraid to openly advocate it, or even behind anonymity.

But the hippy chick is in her 40s and childless, and would be much, much happier in a patriarchy. So ultimately, we have no choice but to develop testicular fortitude and effectively solve the WQ. Civilization is more important than fee-fees.

Pax Imperialis says:

Nick Land has gotten more and more based ever since he returned.

SkipRamen says:

“Suicidal Empathy” is an accurate term.
Applies to the soft-brained who have been Neurologically Programmed by the Weaponizing GloboPols into cheering for the “Migration”, the Islam, the Socialism… whatever will kill them if they adopt it.

> Detroit

This is no accident, the GloboPols are smart, and intentional re their Disruptive Schemes for Power and Enslavement upon Civilizations… and they exhibit many afflictions present in the DSM psychiatry book, and inhabitation by quite a few demons from elsewhere too.

One of their first major operations was atomizing the home… convincing Men to allow their Women, who had learned of “Women’s Liberation”, to actually leave the house unescorted, to work, etc.

Mossadnik says:

> One of their first major operations was atomizing the home… convincing Men to allow their Women, who had learned of “Women’s Liberation”, to actually leave the house unescorted, to work, etc.

WE’RE NOT DOING CHRISTIAN TALIBAN, RAMEN.

Jim says:

Taliban have solved the women problem.

The Christian equivalent is Coverture, which also solved the woman problem.

Mossadnik says:

Jim, no meaning to disrespect, after all it’s your blog and not mine, but sometimes you’re totally retarded.

Yes, the Taliban solved the WQ, but not in a way that is conducive to civilizational prosperity and eugenics. Fact is, incels can complain all day long about Modern Women — been there, done that — yet not a single one wants to emigrate to Afghanistan or any other Islamic hellhole. Jim, I’m sorry, but the Taliban SUCKS.

Now, as to coverture, it’s not exactly an equivalent to the Sharia thing. My opinion is kinda mixed to be honest – a soft version of coverture can perhaps work. But I’m not sure it’s necessary or desirable to go that far: if you restore society in general to a healthy state, with the help of God, you can have high fertility without “bringing back coverture.” However, I assume that different Christian Nations will practice somewhat different things; something tells me that in America and Europe, it just ain’t gonna fly. But maybe Negroes will adopt coverture.

As always, thank you Jim for your willingness to entertain dissenting views. I strongly respect that distinct quality of yours.

Mossadnik says:

(To be clear, Negroes of their own volition will not adopt anything, but rather will be made to adopt prosocial, healthy things by their ruling classes, which will be white Christians. Salus populi and all that Latin stuff.)

alf says:

You are continuing to spam the comment section and if it were up to me you’d be on moderation.

My country, like every Western country, had coverture baked into the law well into the 20th century. In the living memory of my grandparents, the remnants of coverture were well alive.

Coverture has been the norm for all of Western civilisation. It is closest to natural law, to Gnon and the will of God.

Mossadnik says:

Alright, thanks for the feedback. I didn’t realize it. In general, my thinking is more observational and less historical or knowledge-dense. It’s a limitation of mine, as well as for most relatively young people alive today, who simply were “not there” to experience the old days. Old books fill in the gaps, but not completely, and one needs to know which ones to read, and what information to look for. Outside the Bible of course, I believe Chesterton is a good introduction to Gnon-compliant thinking (and is fun in general), but he did not elucidate the ins and outs of social technology.

What I gather is that coverture continued into the early 20th century, so understandably most people alive today possess no direct experience thereof; it’s a distant memory. In my own country, we never had coverture, but then it’s not a Christian country. And on that note, I do observe some religious/traditional communities having high fertility and eugenic breeding without technically (legally) instituting coverture. Ultimately the past is a foreign country, as Mr.P wrote up-thread, so respectfully, I’m still somewhat conflicted on this topic.

Jim says:

> Now, as to coverture, it’s not exactly an equivalent to the Sharia thing. My opinion is kinda mixed to be honest – a soft version of coverture can perhaps work. Now, as to coverture, it’s not exactly an equivalent to the Sharia thing. My opinion is kinda mixed to be honest – a soft version of coverture can perhaps work.

A very hard version of Coverture worked great to 1820. Soft version is what the victortians had, and it was a catastrophe, it gave us a swarm of bastard demon spawn, and AFDC.

> if you restore society in general to a healthy state, with the help of God, you can have high fertility without “bringing back coverture.”

Sure, 1950s America had high fertility. But it was running on cultural capital that it was burning up. And it was deploying very drastic measures that moderns refuse to acknowledge.

By your standards it was Sharia and ultra extreme hard core Coverture. To restore that cultural capital, needs drastic measures. Girls were denied access to boys, except on parentally determined terms, which led to them getting married, and the media presented an ideal of marriage in which the wife obeyed and the husband could and did discipline the wife, even though the 1930s laws that the husband could not discipline the wife had not been changed on paper.

Right now we have generations of women who have never known fathers or grandfathers, on the single–>career woman–>hundred cock stare–>crazy cat lady–>hag–>witch muttering curses track.

Contraception plus Miss Average being allowed unsupervised access to Mister One in Thirty leads to the hundred cock stare.

Yes you could manage to limp along with less drastic measures than full coverture — but every society in the days leading up to its greatness used extremely drastic measures, and societies that did not tended to just disappear.

If you look at the past, at past societies, trying to get by with measures less drastic than Taliban sharia or Regency period coverture is like trying to continue a hike after you have been shot in the leg.

Pax Imperialis says:

We often say culture is downstream of power. This phrase has become something of an academic heuristic we use to say power can just do things the right has long decided can’t be done.

Before Covid I could just walk in to just about any barber shop unannounced and get a haircut. They were chill about it, business was always welcomed. Now days off military bases doing that gets met with “do you have an appointment?”, and I can often point out that they aren’t cutting anyone’s hair right now and their next appointment is in ~15 minutes, they can squeeze me in. Usually I have to take my money elsewhere. Most often it’s millennial age barbers who act like this. The old timers are still happy to cut on demand. After all, a medium reg haircut is pretty simple and quick and they’re always happy to get more money. I see this in much of the economy today, the younger adults take no initiative, and when you try to work outside their predefined, often self imposed regulations, they can’t function. This all started with the lockdowns.

It has sort of struck me that while this example isn’t anywhere at the point of Soviet bread lines, even something as basic as haircuts are functionally approaching something more akin to a command economy, and this type of economic behavior, while limited in the past as an extension of the welfare economy, was slowly and then suddenly extended into what was traditionally the “free” market economy.

If governments can change how we do day to day business, they can definitely change what TV, movies, and art gets made… all processes that are closer to power than say, a pitiful barbershop that won’t cut my hair. And least we forget, the government used to have a direct hand in media production (it still does, we just pretend it doesn’t).

I also want to use this opportunity to state something that Trump is doing good. He has brought Christian Nationalism into the government (directly into the White House), and I’m seeing it in the military too, and while we are still a long ways off from where we need to be, and Trump really should 10x or even 100x the project, I don’t believe it’s all doom and gloom as some here have been with the recent debacle over visas.

Mossadnik says:

Continuing on the topic of coverture.

While it’s probably true that its restoration by a Christian government can marginally facilitate breeding, that misses a much more crucial point. To focus on coverture as such is, in my opinion, to overemphasize a (very dead, if we’re honest) letter of the law. If the spirit is not there, you will not witness any significant reproductive increase. Fertility collapsed in Japan, despite its patriarchy, because the Right Spirit conducive to reproduction ceased. Conversely, in Israel, there is generally high reproduction, even among some “secular” Jews, because the spirit (rather than the law) is present here.

What I conclude from all this is that legislation may help, but it’s just not the decisive factor. A much more important aspect is there being a Priesthood (Brahmins) that supports marriage and breeding, without necessarily involving the Governing Class (Kshatriyas) in its maintenance; laws or no laws, people breed because they want to; and fail to breed because the desire to breed has been stifled out of them by various methods. The Law is just not very relevant.

Note: primitive man had no law such as coverture, but still had women under control. Then, it was perhaps by force; now it can be done by persuasion, provided society in general, and the priesthood in particular, participate in said persuasion. The Law itself is dead, and need not be restored. It is the Spirit that has to be restored, and everything else will naturally follow.

Alf says:

the Spirit that has to be restored

You are repeating points I made up here in this very same thread.

Obviously we are descended from men who had women under control, and because women under control built civilisation, and because civilisation made laws that codified their customs, including coverture.

Mossadnik says:

Alf,

First of all, it is men who build civilization, properly speaking. Women contribute more in the domestic sphere.

Second of all, PUA-Game is absolute crap, and anyone peddling it is full of it. “Shit tests” (to be passed by upping one’s assholery, according to the demonic theory) are nonsense.

9 times out of 10, it is by loving and cherishing your wife that you make yourself more attractive in her eyes, not by “other” methods. If you fail to love and cherish, you will be cucked, dumped, or both. (For the record, I was not a cuck. My ex-wife is an honorable woman.) Oh, “But that’s beta strategy, not alpha strategy!” – yes, and it works substantially better, at least in the context of a long-term relationship.

And we are descended from women who successfully submitted and obeyed. Women who fail in that obligation destroy their own marriages.

That’s the cooperate-cooperate equilibrium.

The patriarchal structures which you allude to were not the cause of successful marriages; rather they reflected the natural, healthy dynamic of cooperate-cooperate equilibrium between the sexes, according to their respective roles. The rot was spiritual, demonic, and only afterwards did the structures fall apart.

It’s not through any legislation that the equilibrium is restored. It’s through rightful conduct, which a Christian priesthood ought to preach. PUA-Game is the exact opposite, by the way. It’s a demonic perspective, that may “””succeed””” in the short-term, but brings ruin in the long-term. It is based on, and fosters, mutual defection.

Codification, in this context, is always a result, never a cause, of inter-sexual equilibrium maintenance. Laws don’t save marriages and don’t destroy them. People who disobey our Heavenly Father destroy marriages, and people who obey Him prosper. Civilization flows from the cooperative equilibrium; it is not the cause of it.

Away with the legalism and away with PUA-Game.

Alf says:

I’ve no clue who or what you’re responding to. Certainly not to anything I wrote.

Take a break. This is leading us nowhere.

Pax Imperialis says:

He can’t help being a spastic neurotic.

Nearly every Jew I’ve worked with is like that to some degree.

alf says:

What gets to me is the pivot.

‘Guys ackshually the red pill is kind of misogynistic and hateful towards women.’

Oh come on. Come on.

One thing if a man shakes mr Soprano’s hand one time and goes to his wife ‘not sure if sanitation is really his job.’

Another thing if a man has played cards with Tony and the boys for years and suddenly exclaims: ‘what a minute are you guys doing something illegal?!’

I recognize a man seeking excuses to head for the exit. For what reasons, one can only speculate.

Jim says:

> Second of all, PUA-Game is absolute crap,

I speak from experience. Game works. I have been at this for a long time. It worked for me even when weight and age were massively against me, and it worked a whole lot better once I lost some weight and gained some muscle and had only age against me. You speak from ignorance and frustration. If game does not work for you, it is obvious to me why it would not work for you.

The mating dance is asymmetric and unequal. Men conquer and women surrender, but men perform and women choose. If men do not, or cannot, perform the mating dance, (and it is now illegal, and never depicted in media) then everyone is unhappy.

When you say game is wrong, sharia is wrong, coverture is wrong, you are saying it just fine that state and society discourages and forbids the mating dance.

> 9 times out of 10, it is by loving and cherishing your wife that you make yourself more attractive in her eyes,

You have one end of the truth, but you have the wrong end of the truth, and it will turn around and bite you. I have slept with more women than I can remember, and I am a remarried widower with two happy marriages under my belt. My current wife is much, much younger than myself. I know what works.

Women want to earn love, they want to earn being cherished. If you give it out for free, she will dump you in favor of someone who gives her a beating from time to time.

> If you fail to love and cherish, you will be cucked, dumped, or both.

Nuts. I see no end of women who reluctantly and bitterly endure being loved and cherished by a good man, while still carrying the torch for the man who treated them like utter trash, and optimistically hoping and trying to trade the good man in for a very bad man, and angry at their failure to do so.

Loving and cherishing is extremely dangerous, and has to be done with care, or else it is going to backfire and burn you. While I see no end of men who completely refrain from doing any loving and cherishing, and yes, they get cheated on all the time, but they are still swimming in pussy.

You always start in defect defect, and you have to move to cooperate/cooperate by getting her to cooperate with your defection. If you make it easy for her, she is going to defect. Getting to the loving and cherishing part is walking a tightrope, and I can tell that you fell off every time.

And in a society that emancipates women, it is a lot harder to walk that tight rope, and I know well how hard it is.

Love is war, love is a battlefield. If a man starts with unilateral surrender, the woman is going to walk all over him then find someone who treats her like trash to nail her. Getting the relationship into a place where loving and cherishing is not going to result in her walking all over you and then walking out is tricky, difficult, and dangerous.

If you doubt that women want what I tell you they want, read their porn. Women want to be loved and cherished, but they also want to be mistreated. And they always want to be owned.

Neurotoxin says:

Not much to add to what Jim said, except to note that there is a difference between “just met her 2 seconds ago” game and marriage game. The amount of asshole you need to perform at a bar on a Saturday night is very different from the amount of asshole you need to perform in a marriage. This has been a commonplace in the game community since forever.

Jim says:

Nonetheless, the amount of assholery you have to perform in a marriage is far from zero, and once in a while you get a very hard shit test, but you only have to pass it once.

Mossadnik says:

Jim, knowing you for years, there’s scarcely a shit test that you can’t pass. Indeed, you pass those with flying colors. And once a girl is with you, she will stick around, because you are the dangerous billionaire king.

Jim says:

> If the spirit is not there, you will not witness any significant reproductive increase.

Women respond to stimuli. I know woman. Their souls hunger for something like Sharia and Coverture.

If you cannot see what is in their hearts, and instead listen to what comes out of their mouths — well, what comes out of their mouths is merely a shit test that men must pass.

Take a look at female romance novels. They are all dubcon, one way or another.

Without something like Sharia or Coverture, women are sad, are mentally disturbed, are depressed, are reluctant to have children, just as a man without a garden and trees in his garden is reluctant to have children. They settle down in contentment when, in defiance of the law, and in defiance of what the media present, a man exercises ownership over them.

The Three Magic Words are not “I love you”. They are “You are mine.”

we all long for the ancestral environment of successful reproduction, just as we long for our beloved savannah. Everywhere we go, we recreate the lightly treed environment that we lived in when we came down from the trees. City people suffer sadness for lack of a proper garden, and it is very hard to raise children with healthy souls unless you have a garden.

For women, that environment is to be property. For men, to own women as property.

In every happy family, the husband, by force of will and in outlaw defiance of law and society, gives women what they actually desire.

My life, and the life of every man with a happy family, would just be so much easier if I had the backing of state and society every time I have to pass a shit test.

Pax Imperialis says:

>They are all dubcon

And lots of gay, why so much gay?

Jehu says:

As I understand it, the major publishing outlets won’t let you write a proper bodice ripper anymore, or even a romance novel that correctly depicts the normal mating dance. So a lot of gay shit is probably thrown in like chaff while the mating dance is obfuscated with layers of fantasy (like vampires and werewolves and sometimes even Amish) to get by the intense censorship.

There’s a huge pent up demand for bodice ripping. Seems like the ‘free market’ ought to find a way.

Pax Imperialis says:

There are probably billions of words of gay smut written by women, consumed by women on various websites that circumvent the publishing houses. They are writing on the same sites that host much of the most audacious bodice rippers you can imagine. I suspect it’s for the same reason why some women get off to Bear by Marian Engel… but I’m not entirely sure. If others could chime in.

Jim says:

Yes, when I say they almost all dubcon in some way, and a lot of them stockholm syndrom romances (cruel slave owner, human sacrifice, and suchlike) I refer to the website stuff, not the publishing houses.

In personal real life experience, women want to be property. In anecdote and observation of acquaintances, they treat nice guys very badly. (Not a problem I ever had, being far from nice. Treat them mean to keep them keen.) And, in media such as the websites, we see enormous frustration and bitterness about emancipation, which bitterness and anger sometimes comes very close to the conscious awareness of the writer.

They are begging to be chained up in the Maga breeding pits. They are crying out for us to pass their shit test. Lets do it. In a healthy society, they would get what they so obviously want. At the same time as they are howling about patriarchal oppression and passionately deploring Webtoons as dangerously traumatising, they are reading (one handed) webtoons about being chained up in the Maga breeding pits.

Dolfin says:

Maybe right-wingers should be writing more lewd fiction. It could be a useful vehicle for teaching women (and men) the truth about gender dynamics.
Examples: the Twilight novels featured a girl risking her life to romance a vampire and a werewolf, and Fifty Shades of Grey re-normalized the female desire for forced submission.
People that read these stories are being redpilled about female nature. The authors were certainly no Jim/Heartiste/Roosh/Tate- if they were, women would have been too offended to buy the novels- but they were redpilled enough to effective push the sexual Overton window, bit by bit.

You could probably get away with all kinds of political incorrectness:
-Accurate depiction of the mating dance
-Women that are (as Jack Nicholson’s character says) bereft of reason and accountability
-Gender inequality via large power/age gaps (in either direction)
-Women that are willingly conquered, owned, even raped
-Men that are straight-up demonic/bestial (forcing the reader to consciously acknowledge their own desires)
-Anything else…?

Handi says:

Bear by Marian Engel

Well now I guess I know the answer to that question…

Jim says:

Clarification: “Bear” by Marian Engel is a “Romance” (female porn, graphic female porn) about a sexual relationship between a woman and a bear. A powerful and quite dangerous bear.

TheDividualist says:

> why so much gay

If you would be part of a small, coordinated movement intent on marching through the institutions and take over the world, weren’t publishing houses be one of your first, high priority targets? Even more than academia, because people keep reading books long after they left college.

TheDividualist says:

Jim,

These days I think we don’t even need a particularly strong form of the WQ. Even if women would not be into psychos, or at least it is hard to convince normies that they are, it is still obvious to even normies that women like a bohemian musician more than a good husband-and-father, yet generally boring engineer. The bohemian musician is simply more interesting, more fun. Think Kurt Cobain. This is something even normies see now, that sexy guys and good husbands and fathers are not a well correlated category. Rather anti-correlated. So if we want replacement fertility levels by actually good husbands and fathers, some version of ownership is necessary. Perhaps it can be purely economic, 1950’s style, maybe that would suffice, or something more – something more directly legal – is needed.

Jim says:

Nineteen fiftiess worked because of state and media backed family control of female sexual opportunity. By and large, most women only got to meet parentally approved suitors. They just did not get to meet the bohemian musician and did get to meet the boring engineer.

And, with sexual opportunity restricted, when they got to meet the boring engineer, they jumped his bones, whereupon family and society said “Oh, now you have to get married”. And with female controlled contraception and abortion unavailable, if that failed, if marriage did not ensue, then she got pregnant, whereupon family and society said “Oh, now you really have to marry the boring engineer, or else”, and applied draconian state backed consequences if she did not.

This sort of coercion was still going strong in the early sixties, and remnants of it remained in the early seventies.

Most people do not remember, but there was a time within still living memory when female sexual preferences where being very forcefully overriden, and everyone knew that it was urgently necessary to forcefully override them, though impolite to mention this fact. Female sexual choice was being heavily and coercively manipulated, and when manipulation failed, straight out coerced. In the early seventies, the concept of “marital rape” still made absolutely no sense — no one could understand what the feminists were talking about, and adultery was still a serious offence, not yet a human right.

The Cominator says:

Given that I’m a fan of 50s music and culture (though not so much the movies most of which were worse than either movies before and after, they were too censored and moralistic) I see that there was immense pressure for girls to stick with one guy at every level of society but there seemed to be less control over adolescents of both sexes than there is today. It seemed to be a thing in the 50s that groups of adolescent friends of guys AND girls (though not in mixed groups) would leave the house at night and not be back until morning.

M says:

That is a bit like every Disney character being an orphan, because parents would stop their children from having adventures.

What you see in nineteen fifties movies is not necessarily representative, because the director depicting adolescents needs them out of parental supervision.

The director needs to depict adolescents having adventures, therefore the girls are in a situation where they could potentially jump the bones of the bohemian musician rather than the boring engineer. Watch for the plot contrivance that gets the girls in that situation, and the plot contrivance will tell you how the nineteen fifties actually were — that adolescent girls were not normally allowed into a situation where they could jump the bones of the exciting bohemian musician rather than the boring engineer.

In the nineteen fifties and early sixties, adolescent girls were manipulated and pressured to marry the boring engineer rather than fuck the exciting bohemian musician, and, once married off, directly coerced to continue fucking the boring engineer and directly coerced to refrain from fucking the exciting bohemian musician. And everyone quietly knew that a whole lot of manipulation and coercion was required.

You will read a whole lot about how the Taliban forbids women from doing this, that, and the other. Nearly all of it total lies. What the Taliban does is back patriarchal authority, and patriarchal authority often forbids women from doing this, that, and the other.

And patriarchal authority in the nineteen fifties and early sixties generally forbade much the same things, as the plot contrivance conjured by the nineteen fifties movie maker to allow his female characters to have adventures implicitly reveals.

Thus, for example, watching you tube videos demonising the Taliban, we are told the Taliban forbids women to have jobs, and forbids them to have education. Click on next video, a tourist, or youtube tour video, is doing a tour of Afghanistan, and they have a female tour guide, who got an education in English and tour guiding (not in whore school, obviously) and her brother who speaks very little English, just happens to be hanging around all the time to make sure she is not banging her clients. Which the plot contrivances in nineteen fifties movies reveal is a whole lot more liberal and emancipated than nineteen fifties America typically was.

I have living memory of a time when adultery, fornication, and abortion were not sacred and fundamental rights of women. And watching tourist videos of Afghanistan where the tourists are interacting with Afghan women, seems to me that the only substantial difference in the treatment of females between Afghanistan and the America that still had Marriage 1.0 is that the Taliban, because they have to rectify a badly messed up situation, are more openly, coercively, and directly providing patriarchal authority with state backing.

The Cominator says:

Maybe its bullshit but even family friendly media even family friendly media like Its a Wonderful Life (when he and his future wife are teenagers girl goes to dance nobody is watching over her) pretty consistently portrays teenagers including the girls under fairly loose control from the 1920s thru the 1980s and including the 1950s and generally allowed to leave the house at night with their friends with no supervision. What there did seem to be at least after the 1920s and especially in the 1950s is enormous pressure to stick with one guy and get married young especially if there was an “accident” but I don’t get the sense at all that girls were fiercely chaporoned even as teenagers but once again maybe its bullshit.

Jim says:

Not how I recall “Its a wonderful life”.

In the scene where Boring George Bailey hits on Mary, he does so in her mother’s sitting room with her mother hanging around just out of sight, and her mother then clears him to take Mary to more exciting places than her sitting room.

Presumably the exciting Bohemian Musician would not get into the sitting room, and if he did, would be thrown out on his ear.

And if the Exciting Bohemian Musician hits on Mary while Boring George Bailey is taking her somewhere more interesting than her parents sitting room, I assume that violence would ensue, in which Boring George Bailey would get support from family, society, Church, and state, and Exciting Bohemian Musician would not, this support effectively making Boring George Bailey situationally way more alpha than Exciting Bohemian Musician.

Not so very long ago, I was with a girl a lot younger than myself, and the alpha male of a group of males, perhaps mistaking me for her uncle or her father, hit on her. I put my arm around her, pulled her into me, and gave him my best expressionless stone faced stare. The entire group of males backed away as if I had pulled out a machine gun. Violence over women is very real today, and it was a lot more real back then.

If you pay attention to plot contrivances, like Mary being in her parents sitting room with at least one parent present though out of sight, the contrivance implies a whole lot of direct coercive control over female sexual, domestic, and reproductive services, with potential for direct violence if that coercion is ignored.

Jim says:

Mary is allowed to go places with Boring George Bailey that in real life would likely have resulted in her banging Boring George Bailey. And in real life would then catch heat to marry him. And in real life would likely result in pregnancy, whereupon she catches direct forceful physical coercion to marry Boring George Bailey, resulting in direct physical coercion to continue banging Boring George Bailey and direct physical coercion to refrain from banging Exciting Bohemian Musician.

That Boring George Bailey hits on Mary in her parents sitting room implies the existence a whole lot of direct Talibanic physical coercion to ensure that Miss Average fucks Mister Average and refrains from fucking Mister One in Thirty.

If you pay attention, you can see the mailed fist through the velvet glove.

In the movie, she is not subject to any coercion — but if no coercion, why is Boring George Bailey hitting on her in her parent’s sitting room, with at least one of her parents close at hand.

And in real life, upon being permitted to go to places more interesting than her parents sitting room with Boring George Bailey, going to bang him. Not consent to bang him, women never consent to anything. “It just happened”. They respond to stimuli, and Boring George Bailey got permission and opportunity to administer those stimuli. (Which stimuli today’s young people are forbidden to know, but back then everyone knew.) And then she will be forcefully pressured, and if pregnant, physically coerced, to marry him.

She does not have the option of aborting her child so as to remain ready to answer a booty call from Exciting Bohemian Musician.

And once married, he has moral authority and legitimacy to physically enforce that she continues to bang him, and physically enforce that she may not bang Exciting Bohemian Musician.

Hostile propaganda against Afghanistan screams that Afghan women are coerced. And they are, but contrary to that hostile propaganda, the coercion is administered through family and society, not Talibanic morality police, the mailed fist is inside a very comfortable and comforting velvet glove. Which in practice works out very like the very comfortable and comforting velvet glove of the nineteen fifties America depicted in “Its a wonderful life”.

We see no mailed fist in “Its a wonderful life” But that they are meeting where they are meeting implies a mailed fist that prevents her from meeting boys elsewhere. And we know that nineteen fifties marriage then equipped Boring George Bailey with a mailed fist. And, red pill, a woman rather likes being with a man who holds a mailed fist over her.

Mossadnik says:

> And if the Exciting Bohemian Musician hits on Mary while Boring George Bailey is taking her somewhere more interesting than her parents sitting room, I assume that violence would ensue, in which Boring George Bailey would get support from family, society, Church, and state, and Exciting Bohemian Musician would not, this support effectively making Boring George Bailey situationally way more alpha than Exciting Bohemian Musician.

That’s exactly how it should be, indeed.

The ability to provide protection for one’s property is a sure measure of the degree of one’s alphaness.

These days, though, the musicians (who are often niggers) are often way too emasculated to hit on owned, taken women. So one need not excessively worry about that scenario.

The Cominator says:

Dude fucking calm down. Jim Alf and me have all asked you this… if you’re going to post try to consolidate what you’re going to say the comments show 5 posts by you at the top far too often and its not in the midst of arguments (I had to be a little spammy when there were people here arguing for covid restrictions when I was absolutely metaphysically certain that it was some kind of bullshit op in heated arguments its understandable), you aren’t the worst poster but you need to course correct on this. You might be the manic depressive type (common among jews) its not the worst thing but once in a while you need to be smacked and told to clean up your act. All the other grandees of the site including the owner have told you… try to get a handle on yourself take a week off from poasting or go to some Israeli forum and denounce the damn leftist elite in Israel or something but get your mind right and come back.

Jim likes you overall and he doesn’t want to treat you like a shill who needs to be put on moderation but you are forcing his hand. Knock it off and come back later ok.

Mossadnik says:

Well, there aren’t any Israeli forums of note, leftist or otherwise. It’s mostly on Twitter now. Official mediums for spreading ideas aren’t really a thing here. It’s also unlikely that anything I say in Hebrew will have any effect on anything; my whole influence is basically confined to this place, writing in English, and always has been.

Mossadnik says:

My best contribution honestly might just be to not be involved in politics, at all, ever. I’ve done enough damage already with my nonsense, and I don’t think I can effectively do any good. It’s a waste in purely objective terms; nothing will come of it, no matter how hard I try. Better to just be wholly neutral, apolitical, go do something else entirely, no push in any direction whatsoever, and that’s that. It’s literally better to just move on, as much as possible. I can’t influence Israeli society in word or in deed, which is exactly how I ended up here. I’ll take care of myself, successfully or otherwise. I can’t be really be “useful,” and I at this point prefer to just shut up. That’s probably best for everyone.

Jim says:

Mossadnik, have a little rest, and when you come back, don’t do too many comments in one hit. After sending two or three comments, take a little break.

Alf says:

I’ll take care of myself, successfully or otherwise.

You have made many wonderful contributions here over the years and I hope you continue to do so.

But for the past few weeks has become obvious that you’re in a bad mental place. Your recent comments read like you’re going in and out of sleep deprivation, in and out of drug use, in and out of family court. Above quote, which I am reading as a veiled suicide threat, really drives that point home. Please don’t.

I somewhat identify with the feeling of being connected to something higher, of feeling in your bones some higher plane of existence and noticing that, for whatever reason, no one else feels that way. Which turns all the more frustrating when the grandness in your head only has hubris for it to show in your real life.

At which point you might hear a voice in your head: ‘you are too far ahead of your time. These fools around you don’t understand. Ignore the banalities of life, keep chasing this feeling of higher consciousness!’ Which is the voice of the devil.

The voice of God sounds quite different. Will say something like: ‘Stop digging your grave. Your real life is real, much realer than the visions in your head. Yes, it is much more mundane, much more boring. But that’s how life was designed to be a great deal of the time: simple, boring, healthy. Reject the search of highs. Embrace mundaneness.’

And indeed, reading through the advice you have received so far, looks like the voice of God is well represented.

Mossadnik says:

Yeah female sexuality is not “fixed.” It is highly malleable, moldable – when the proper owner, even the most boring of techies, has the means to pass her shit tests, a long-term marriage should ideally ensue, with much female enthusiasm.

If NRx is clear about that, should be able to solve female misbehavior (which has been going on for far too long) thoroughly.

Avid Reader says:

Are you paid to spam this board?

The biggest fear of some groups.

Somewhere there is a group of people discussing policy and politics without them playing both sides.
Watched this over and over on many forums, boards, blogs the last 3 decades.
Dilute, disrupt, gate keep.

Mossadnik says:

Okay.

This has gone way, way too far.

I bow out. Kudos on destroying JB!

Alf says:

Kudos on destroying JB!

Who is this addressed to? Jim? Me? Yourself?

Nasty comment.

Varna says:

Mossadnik, new year is approaching.

Do a dopamine detox, including Internet, until Jan 1st. Really, it works wonders. No web, no porn, no drugs, no exciting music, no exciting food, no covfefe, no spiraling thoughts, no intense workouts. It’s worth it. Rewire your dopamine network, get lots of sleep (you’re probably in ultra-mega burnout by now). Be exhausted, be foggy-brained, be unmotivated, be a jellyfish moron for a month. It’s OK.

As I’ve told a number of people over the last couple of years, online and irl, it’s no use being a burnt out wreck, no matter how much the hearts wants angry intensity all the time. It’s a trap.

Each and every one of us needs to be at the top of our game, and not the fake manic top, which works by going into energy debt, fracking one’s own reserves, exploiting one’s personal ecosphere like a villainous megacorp that leaves depleted soil, poisoned water, and warped lumpy livestock (and customers) in its wake.

It is not OK to treat oneself like that. It’s not OK to treat society and nature like that, and it’s not OK to treat oneself like that. Take a month of sleep and no stimulation. By Jan 1 you’ll be amazing.

This is a ridiculously simple thing to do which gives ridiculously huge benefits, but almost no one can go through it. Even St Anglin can’t do it for more than a week and it shows. Don’t be like that. Take the lazy sleeping month pill and come back to the world better and more stable.

Jim says:

Just as the ready availability of snack food is a major cause of obesity, we are getting more easy stimulation than is good for us.

The algorithm is the equivalent of the fridge and microwave full of snack food. It learns what grabs your attention and shows you a big menu of tasty little attention grabbers.

Adam says:

Don’t forget the barbell work. 2-3 times a week is all it takes for the first 6 months of growth. I suggest stronglifts 5×5 for a beginner routine.

And ffs get those T levels checked.

Varna says:

Yes, but *after* the slow&dumb recharging period, otherwise may kickstart a manic phase at an inappropriate time and sabotage the self-stabilizing.

f6187 says:

Jim:

[2025-11-06] Nick Fuentes is a commie. …

[2025-11-21] Hey, I am not comfortable to be on the same side as Nick Fuentes, but I would rather be on his side than the side of a screaming mob …

Yes. At first I thought “commie” was a bit harsh, but a few days ago I watched him seal his commie credentials as he spoke about “strategic alliance” and “compromise” between the far left and the far right. My wife’s reaction was “Nick is dead to me.” I said ok I get it, but he’s still sharp on a lot of topics.

The thing about Nick is he cut his teeth on libertarian free market / Austrian economics, but then he ditched all that when the Zios pounced on him at 18 years old and shut him down hard for asking reasonable questions. Now he considers free market economics as hopelessly naïve, as many alt-rightists did in 2017.

I understand. For the free market to work, you need strong property rights and full freedom of association … and that ship sailed long ago. So the alt-rightists and groypers aim to keep the big central government and steer it toward more nationalist / socialist ends.

It would be fun to send Nick a superchat like “Hey Nick, I’m an Austrian economics guy! Let’s restore property rights and freedom of association and reduce taxes, amirite? #WANGHAF” And then watch his withering response as he mocks me into oblivion. He’s really good at that stuff. Better than Don Rickles ever was.

f6187 says:

(sigh, I didn’t end the blockquote properly there)

TheDividualist says:
Mossadnik says:

On reflection, everyone is making perfectly good points here, especially Jim. No reason for Mary to go around burning with passion for any exciting musicians (who have always treated her like trash) when she should rightfully, legally, and permanently belong to the boring engineer. So it is.

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