Origins of the white race:

The white race is the youngest and newest of the races, originating about ten thousand years ago.

Blacks are in fact a very diverse set of races, some of them considerably superior to other black races – same skin color, different physical and psychological features.

About sixty or seventy thousand years ago, a very small black tribe or large family with the outward urge characteristic of modern whites left subsaharan Africa, and headed out into Europe, expanded, eventually exterminating previous races in the region. Sea levels were lower then, and they had impressive seagoing ability, they island hopped all the way to Australia, where they failed to exterminate a different race with which they could not interbreed, but replaced them over most of Australia. Small and diminishing populations of older races remained here and there throughout the world.

They were, however, still black. Probably a better quality of black, but still black. Pretty much everyone still around was black or brown.

About twelve thousand years, the climate started getting nicer, and northern Africa, now a desert, became wet. Agriculture started in Northern Africa, consisting of patriarchal groups united by descent in the male line owning property. There was also a people focused on fishing, sea travel, and shellfish gathering, but they disappeared and the survivors were assimilated into the grain farmers when the oceans rose ten thousand years ago. To establish security of property over larger groups, more capable of defending that land, priesthoods developed. These people were brown, dark eyed, and dark haired. More or less the same people as modern middle easterners. In Europe, brown skinned largely blue eyed people, with a various hair colors hunted and gathered.

The middle eastern agriculturists rolled into Europe, displacing, replacing, and exterminating the hunter gatherers.

Inland of Europe, Eastern Europe, the pontic steppes, the hunter gatherers were advancing their technology of clothing, housing, and food storage to deal with very harsh winters. Which means that being nomadic they needed to transport more stuff, which was a problem. They were becoming herders, rather than hunters, and they made their domesticated horses, still too small to carry men, pull wagons, which enabled them to create and keep more stuff.

And in Eastern Europe, the farmers ran into nomadic herders that were too technologically advanced to exterminate and replace. So, to make peace, they traded hostages and women, an event recorded in the Norse legends of the Æsir and the Vanir. These guys were ancestor worshipers, and at least some of the Norse Gods were remembered as originally human ancestors all the way to the beginning of recorded history. The conflict is also remembered as Cain murdering Abel.

The mingled race evolved into whites, among them the Aryan race. The Aryan race, organized patriarchally and aristocratically, equipped with copper weapons and horse drawn chariots, expanded westwards into Europe, killing the men and marrying the women, replacing and mingling with middle eastern grain farmers, and South East into India, where they failed to do such a thorough job of upgrading the locals. The locals in Europe and India had priestly organization, rather than aristocratic. The Aryans in Europe rubbed out that priestly organization, and mostly replaced their demon Gods with the Aryan ancestor Gods. In the middle east, Aryans ruled, but failed to have large biological impact. Nomadic patriarchalists, probably originally Aryan, also worshipped the one God. Hard to know if this was part of the original Aryan faith, or they picked it up somewhere along the way. “The ancient city” plausibly speculates that it was original, and presents suggestive evidence supporting that thesis. Organizing under Kings and priests, the descendants of the Aryans created Bronze Age civilization. In the middle east, failed however to have a very large biological impact, though they ruled the place. In India, the demon gods of the locals survived more successfully, and entered the Aryan religion more extensively.

In Europe and the Middle East, and to a lesser extent India, Bronze Age civilization went decadent, failing to reproduce, with high levels of infanticide, demon worship, and human sacrifice. Without Kings, property rights in land and cattle was only practical under patriarchal organization, but with Kings, emancipation becomes all too possible, and in the latter days of Bronze Age civilization we see Kingship running in the female line, which suggests that the male line had become uncertain. In the collapse of Bronze Age civilization was overrun by peoples who preserved the original precivilized Aryan ways, though some of those peoples may have mingled extensively with lesser races in their travels, perhaps largely as a result of abducting women.

Because of the collapse of trade, they had to use iron, and did not have furnaces hot enough to melt it. So they made bloom iron from very high grade iron ore, which no longer exists anywhere except in very tiny amounts. Bloom iron you have to heat and hammer, and heat and hammer some more, like kneading bread dough, for a very long time before it becomes a useful material. And if you use the kind of iron ore that still exists today, no amount of heating and hammering is going to produce a useful material, because there are too many non metallic impurities in the bloom. To get useful iron from the kind of iron ore that still exists today, have to heat it hot enough for the iron to melt, and thus separate from the non metallic impurities.

Indra is the same ancestor as Zeus, Thor,and Jupiter, whom at least some of the Saga period icelanders recalled as an originally human ancestor living somewhere near the Pontic steppes.

So it is fair to say that the white race started with Thor.

1,860 Responses to “Origins of the white race:”

  1. Cloudswrest says:

    Robert Zepehr has a new video out where he argues the *recent* Out of Africa theory is untenable. African populations have double digit introgression of an extremely archaic “ghost” population, probably homo erectus, that is not present is non-African populations. It may even be the case the gene flow was in the opposite direction. Cro-Magnons migrated into Africa, bred with homo erectus (pre-dating breeding with Neanderthals), creating modern negros.

    As an aside, it would be an interesting (mad scientist) experiment to try to distill, as much as possible, an individual from the ghost population, by selective cross breeding of Africans.

    • jim says:

      The latter is the only thing that makes sense, and the higher African races have legends of such a migration.

  2. Calvin says:

    For the record, Jim, this is the sort of behavior I was describing earlier in microcosm:

    Iranian man slaps a bitch (presumably someone else’s) for something or the other, half a dozen other men beat him up and pin him against a car. Genes for touching someone else’s woman do not seem advantageous in this sort of environment – he certainly didn’t come off as the alpha. But all the other men acquired alpha cred in the act.

  3. Anon says:

    Seems pretty conclusive that Izyum has fallen at this point, unless both Russians and Ukranians have been lying/ not telling the truth the past 2 days and been reporting its false fall. Unsettling news given what Big Serge has said about how crucial it is to both sides that they have it/ how its the pivot point to who will be winning bigly this phase.

    • Red says:

      Putin continues to prove to be a weak leader. If you’re going to war then you should really go to war. No half measures. Defending a critical area with limited troops because Putin wanted to keep the number of troops small is just asking to be sucker punched.

      • Wulfgar Thundercock III says:

        From what I am hearing, it was American/NATO troops that spearheaded the push. Without them, the Russians probably could have held and punished the Ukranians even more. This is a movement of desperation, and the Russians probably were not expecting to have to fight American and NATO units. Putin has to hold back so that he has his army in reserve. Victory typically goes to the commander who can hold his reserves the longest, and the GAE just committed theirs.

        • Red says:

          The problem was the lack of reserves in the Izyum area. Russia rushed them in but they were too far away to arrive in time.

          This is just the start of NATO units in the Ukraine. Now that it worked they’ll flood the war zone with them. Weakness triggers ever greater escalation.

          • Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

            Well, to coin a phrase, them and what army?

            • Red says:

              Any capable NATO units. Then when those units start getting taken apart they’ll escalate again safe in the belief that Putin is too much of a weakling to respond back in kind.

              • Wulfgar Thundercock III says:

                What NATO country has the stomach to take IEW casualties in this day and age? They are already facing a recruiting problem. Once hundreds of NATO boys and girls start coming back in body bags or missing a limb or three, that will only get worse.

                • Red says:

                  First the most effective units will be the sort of men the cathedral would love to see dead. See WW1 France for a prime example of this behavior by leftist governments.

                  Second, when NATO units get destroyed they’ll escalate again eventually landing us at WMD sorts of weapons. If the NATO units had gotten their shit pushed in that might have been the end of the escalation cycle. Weakness begats escalation.

                • S says:

                  What ‘WMD sort of weapons’? Short of nuclear weapons, no one gives a shit and they would already be using them.

                  And if NATO got their shit kicked in, they might have panicked and escalated to prevent from losing because they are unable to admit defeat getting us escalation anyway. Remember NATO units being deployed was an escalation because the Russians shut down the Ukrainian ability to conduct offenses.

                • Kunning Druegger says:

                  I think Putin is very hesitant to go up against actual NATO units because he doesn’t feel ready yet. I don’t think it is cowardice, necessarily, but failure to take a plunge can always seem cowardly, and later on, even if it wasn’t (like in 2014 not hitting the AFU; if they had, it would have been the walk-over they expected back in February, but hindsight is 20/20), it is remembered as such.

                  I believe the lack of readiness is due to his tendency to pursue autarky and multi-polar paradigm. The yellow Chinese are probably the worst ally to have, as they aren’t known for loyalty or determination outside of their Middle Kingdom clay. Chinamen can slaughter chinamen perpetually, but they don’t have a great record going up against others.

                  Honestly, can anyone here outline a situation wherein NATO would back down? They are building a highway to h*ck with no off-ramps. they want whites and the based of the earth to die so that they can curate a menagerie of drugged out, dependent, room temp IQ proles. So they will throw manly men on the pyre, particularly since these guys seem perfectly willing to do it. And, as their forces get annihilated, they will escalate to the biggest weapons that they can, up to detonating a dirty bomb or worse in Kiev or something. After normie America has swallowed every silly big lie up to this point, why would they think they couldn’t sell that one?

                  Russia is trying to color within the lines. They seem to believe that if they follow the rules crafted by the NWO, they can shame the adversary into doing the same. It is stunningly, and depressingly, similar to the way law & order conservatives think they can vote harder or constitution better. We always look at the Cathedral Faithful as the greatest asset on their side, the thought leaders and icons that demonstrate the proper holiness dances for people to mimic to have goodness and equality rain down from the skies, but their greatest asset is populations, foreign and domestic, that actually believe in a Rules based Order. Fucking rubes.

                • S says:

                  “Honestly, can anyone here outline a situation wherein NATO would back down?”

                  The same thing that caused Fauci to back down.

                  “And, as their forces get annihilated, they will escalate to the biggest weapons that they can, up to detonating a dirty bomb or worse in Kiev or something. After normie America has swallowed every silly big lie up to this point, why would they think they couldn’t sell that one?”

                  Russia has more tactical nuclear weapons. The Russians aren’t going to back down from a nuclear attack so attempting it will kick of WW3.

                  “Russia is trying to color within the lines.”

                  It is working for them. Europe is in the midst of an economic collapse, Russia is managing to take on all of NATO on peacetime footing, the price of their exports are going up and the military is getting better at killing.

                  Stalling for time benefits the Russians because the US is disintegrating faster than them.

                • Red says:

                  “Honestly, can anyone here outline a situation wherein NATO would back down?”

                  The same thing that caused Fauci to back down.

                  Fauci backed down because the Cathedral humiliated him by cutting off his access to TV interviews.

                  Russia has more tactical nuclear weapons. The Russians aren’t going to back down from a nuclear attack so attempting it will kick of WW3.

                  Hitler thought he could gobble up Poland just like he’d gobbled up Austria and Czechoslovakia without France and the UK declaring war on him. Hitler was shocked when they declared war over Poland.

                  Weakness begats escalation until a war that no one wants happens. Cathderal shills scream that Nuclear war won’t happen because Russia doesn’t have the balls for it. The people warning the Ukraine could lead to nuclear war have mostly shut up because Russia fails to respond to NATO’s provocations.

                  The shills continue to be right about Russia willingness to retaliate. They’ll be right up until the moment the nukes fly on the path we’re on.

                  “Russia is trying to color within the lines.”

                  It is working for them. Europe is in the midst of an economic collapse, Russia is managing to take on all of NATO on peacetime footing, the price of their exports are going up and the military is getting better at killing.

                  Stalling for time benefits the Russians because the US is disintegrating faster than them.

                  When stalling for time best not to let the other guy sucker punch you, drag down your pants and fart in your face like NATO’s just did.

          • S says:

            That is the optimal situation for Russia. Fighting NATO in a place where Russia has massive artillery superiority, short supply lines, strong air defenses and a limited front means they can inflict lopsided casualty ratios and bleed NATO dry.

            Killing Ukrainian conscripts just ticks down the clock until Ukraine runs out of men. Killing NATO soldiers improves Russia’s position relative to NATO.

    • Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

      One shouldn’t get too caught up in daily vicissitudes that they lose sight of the broader trends in longer time horizons.

      Premade highways are very convenient, but the one thing that’s missing from all these discussions is how even huge territorial gains would substantially alter the ultimate strategic balance at play here. You could cover hundreds of miles of ground, and lose, because you were heedlessly throwing your forces into meatgrinders, and you lacked the capacity to sustain such efforts in the first place; at the end of the day, the correlation of forces were simply not pattered in your favor.

      Movements into occupied positions are, as a general rule, costly, for some obvious reasons. Hence, there are generally only three things that make assaults pay off; routs, encirclements, and access to strategic targets the enemy cannot afford to lose.

      Per late cold war Russian doctrine, the ‘front lines’ consisted mostly of lightly manned picket and reconnaissance units directing fire support onto enemy targets, while larger forces elastically redeploy in response to enemy movements; by all indications the bulk of forces either withdrew in good order or were operationally deep in the first place, mass routing or encirclement is not on the table. And unless the puppet regime can strike all the way to Stalingrad, they aren’t threatening Russian oil refineries, shipping ports, truck factories, or other critical infrastructure either. So you are ultimately left with a situation where the occupational forces have stuck their shiniest dick into a blender with little to no real pay off.

      On the other hand, the question of how the GAE can sustain its war effort is very much an open one. Tactically and operationally, they have yet to evince good solutions to the Russian’s reconnaissance-strike complex – who have evidently subscribed to the old Amerikaner precis that it is a lot cheaper to trade the steel in an artillery shell for the iron in a soldier’s blood – which has been chewing their own efforts to mulch. Neither side looks like they have figured everything out, but the important thing for the results of this conflict is that the RF are doing it better than the rest.

      And on the more strategic level, the bureaucratization of all levels of occidental society has rendered the GAE a fair-weather friend at best. Its days of being the arsenal of communism are generations past. It is simply not capable of fighting a peer in an industrial conflict anymore. A number of rocket artillery trucks that you could count on your fingers is the literal best it can do. The AFU could move over Izyum; they could move over Luhansk; they could move over the whole Donbass; but all that has been accomplished is buying a few weeks of celebratory preaching in return for a hastening of the end.

  4. TheDividualist says:

    I think what Biden and Trump recently said really sped up the countdown to civil war, it might happen before the Biden “administration”, LOL, ends, what do you think, Jim?

    Prediction: NOT a race war. Religious holy war.

    Those are nasty….

    • Red says:

      2026 still looks like it’s on track. Biden’s probably going to be reinstalled as president in 2024.

  5. TheDividualist says:

    Hello Jim!

    >They were becoming herders, rather than hunters

    Nope, sorry, the 10000 Years Old Explosion book was clear on this: farming came first, as without the lactase mutation using land for herding was less efficient than farming. With the lactase mutation, dairy produced 4x as much calories as meat, so it was efficient. Also, taking other people’s livestock is a whole lot easier than taking grain, so it made more sense to wage wars with neighbors. All these wars for milch cows made our ancestors winners.

    Lactase made us winners as it turned us into cattle rustlers so there was a lot of genetic selection for winning small wars.

    (That continued into recorded history. The Pale in Ireland was not supposed to stop armies. It was supposed to make it difficult to drive cattle over it.)

    Especially when they invented the chariot, that is when they really won, the combination of long-range shooting and mobility, shoot-and-scoot.

    My favourite mystery is who the hell are the ancestors of Hungarians. Usually, unless they have a huge number of people, conquerors took the language of the conquered. Think France. And Normanns, twice.

    Was there a Finno-Ugric, Uralic speaking population living in the Carphatian Basin? The chronicles are silent on this… everything else about Hungarians is Turkic, the old graveyards look exactly like the ones in Kyrgyzistan.

    • Your Uncle Bob says:

      Agriculture of plants goes way back, yes. Herding of horses came later but arose independently, the pipeline was hunting to herding to riding, in a non-farming population. From bones left, horse meat was vitally important for a long period, overlapping with when we started using them to ride and pull wagons.

      Cattle herding goes back farther (but somewhere else, the first horse hunters were hunter-gatherers), and this story I’m fuzzy on but it most likely arose independently as well before later being combined into a package with farmer-only communities. That’s a trend in general, two different communities might have different domesticated plants, or one has plants and one has an animal, and when one small community somewhere put them together into a package they were the ones who took off and expanded, genetically and spatially.

      Also, my favorite minor point, lactose tolerance can’t have taken off until after we were already consuming dairy in some form. If one person got the mutation in a population not using dairy, how would they ever know, and what reproductive advantage would they have? It was likely yogurt and khefir rather than raw milk at first, but it took a dairy-consuming herding population for it to take off.

      • jim says:

        Yes. You don’t get lactose tolerance until you have been pastoralists for centuries. Herding first, lactose tolerance later. Gregory Cochran lies on this issue, because he lies on Aryan conquest.

        • Cloudswrest says:

          It would seem obvious to me that, without competition for land, herding is MUCH easier than agriculture. Herding converts grass into food, and on the steppes and great planes there’s infinite grass. And for 18th-19th century great plains, infinite buffalo. Just keep them corralled within a manageable area. Maybe domesticate some for dairy.

          • jim says:

            Because of the harsh environment of the Pontic steppes (hard to survive over winter without stores and equipment) not much competition for land.

            • EH says:

              It’s “Pontic steppe” not “Pontiac steppes”. (Same error is in article.) There are other steppe regions but each one is generally referred to in the singular, though usage differs. But definitely not “Pontiac”, which is a car named after an Indian chief / town in Michigan.

              “Pontic” is from the Greek “pontus”, meaning “sea”, specifically the Black Sea, which is immediately to the south of the Pontic steppe.

    • jim says:

      > > They were becoming herders, rather than hunters

      > Nope, sorry, the 10000 Years Old Explosion book was clear on this: farming came first, as without the lactase mutation using land for herding was less efficient than farming.

      Gregory Cochran is too politically correct to give an accurate account of recent human evolution, because the truth is mighty racist.

      The truth is Aryan conquest, and he does not want to say that.

  6. Dr. Faust says:

    “STEVE BANNON BOMBSHELL: The FBI Conducted 35 Raids Targeting Trump Supporters”

  7. Kunning Druegger says:

    St. Anglin has been down for ~3 days now. Does someone have a link to the new domain, or is he dark completely?

    • jim says:

      After fixing the problem with your ISP, nameserver, or vpn, report on who was stopping you from accessing thought crimes on the internet.

      We need an enemies list.

      Daily Stormer is fine. You are blocked by your ISP, DNS, or VPN.

      • Aidan says:

        ISP blocked for me

      • Mike in Boston says:

        Daily Stormer is fine. You are blocked by your ISP, DNS, or VPN.

        Querying on a nameserver from a U.S. consumer ISP returns A records for 200 IP addresses, all in the 23.163.176,xxx subnet. Nameservers provided by a European ISP give me the same set of A records.

        Trying to connect from that U.S. ISP, all those addresses time out:

        $ curl -vvv
        * About to connect() to port 80 (#0)
        * Trying… Timeout
        * Trying… Timeout

        Trying to connect from a European data center gets me an nginx temporary redirect to an error page:

        * About to connect() to port 80 (#0)
        * Trying…
        * Connected to ( port 80 (#0)
        > GET / HTTP/1.1
        > User-Agent: curl/7.29.0
        > Host:
        > Accept: */*
        < HTTP/1.1 307 Temporary Redirect
        < Server: nginx
        < Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2022 03:40:26 GMT
        < Content-Type: text/html
        < Content-Length: 164
        < Connection: keep-alive
        < Location:
        < alt-svc: h3-23=":443"; ma=86400

        A traceroute from the U.S. gets to London before timing out. A traceroute from Europe gets me to Hurricane Electric in the U.S. before timing out.

        Could be routing weirdness, could be consequences of an attack on VanWaNet, which is much maligned by Globohomo this week for daring to do business with thought criminals.

        • jim says:

          You should be OK with a vpn outside of Europe or the US. If you are not OK, you know who your enemies are.

          That this policy was put in place uniformly delineates the extent of empire.

          I always lease servers in places less likely to be compliant with the Global American Empire, but I don’t want to say what those places are.

    • A2 says:

      DS currently not reachable through various european VPN locations but choosing one outside Europe worked for me.

      • jim says:

        I would guess the vpns are not receiving directions. If, however, your vpn location is giving you an IP that is firewalled from daily stormer, you will not be able to get through, and it will not be the vpn’s fault. The same vpn service, giving you an IP in a different location, will likely work fine.

        The correct IP is:
        Pinging [] with 32 bytes of data:
        Reply from bytes=32 time=348ms TTL=54
        Ping statistics for
        Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss)

        Looks like nameservice is generally not blocking them. Rather, routing on the internet is blocking them.

        • Leon says:

          I turned off my wifi and was able to access the site. I have tried to access it wifi from multiple locations and been unable to. It must be the wifi provider.

          • jim says:

            The network is provided by multiple levels of ISP and DNS. Your DNS has a DNS and your ISP has an ISP.

            To figure out who is blocking you, use ping and traceroute. If DNS related, DIG, to find the DNS that your DNS is using.

  8. Kunning Druegger says:

    This is warriors + priests as it should be:

    The GAE has no equivalent.

  9. Mister Grumpus says:

    This is interesting and very Jimmy when read from the right angle:

    Big city hedge fund zillionaires, trying to prep for “the event”, are being forced to rediscover Throne, Altar and Freehold:

    “Finally, the CEO of a brokerage house explained that he had nearly completed building his own underground bunker system, and asked: ‘How do I maintain authority over my security force after the event?'”

    In the Guardian no less.

    • Fake says:

      Heck, I would love a “How to become a local warlord” guide with steps for establishing patriarchy for your men and perhaps denying it to your enemies. How to install and “motivate” a pastor to preach trad, jimian Christianity to your group. How to tell your men, “She’s your property to do with as you please. Just remember your Christian duty and don’t bother other men’s property” so they can sire-all-the-children without worrying about her running off or attracting White knights. . How to create the customs of marrying your daughters off before they’re X age or treating a man as alpha while in his house or dueling to maintain honor.

      I bet that community would dominate its neighbors like Genghis Kahn’s did and spread to both the oceans in two generations.

    • Starman says:

      @Mister Grumpus quotes from the link:

      “Finally, the CEO of a brokerage house explained that he had nearly completed building his own underground bunker system, and asked: ‘How do I maintain authority over my security force after the event?’”

      That merchant will have to learn how to be a warrior. First step, be loyal to your men who are loyal to you. Do what Julius Caesar did at Alesia, not what Trump did on Jan 6th.

      • Jehu says:

        His problem honestly isn’t that hard, because he can use solutions that don’t scale.

        There exist a fair number of warrior types that effectively have the code of honor: stays bought. As long as you treat them decently, and in particular, treat their families decently, they’ll let you call the shots for at least a generation. They can at least fake gratitude for that long. What you want are the ones that aren’t exactly neurotypical but who can fake it well enough to have decent looking wives and families. If your connections are something like the CEO mentioned, you just comb through your security force that you already have for your business and find candidates. You don’t need very many if your objective is just to protect your haven, so you can choose the easier psychological profiles.

    • zero says:

      It’s fascinating how few people understand the scope of the cathedral, this dumb Marxist thinks Zuckerberg is going to what? Stop the implosion of the American economy by just like, being a good guy maaaan. If she truly sat down with billionaires asking questions like that its another tally for Jim’s proposition that the “elite” really are that dumb.

      • S says:

        I suspect she is making parts of the story up. While possible, I don’t expect rich people people to do interviews where they talk about how they are trying to figure out how to screw over employees their lives will depend upon.

        • zero says:

          I agree, but this whole European policy of freezing their own subjects to death has me reassessing my assumptions of just how stupid and incompetent people at the top can be. I would expect bezos to know how to handle a security detail but I’m not sure some corrupt party capitalist might not actually be that nuts. Either way it’s always informative to read what the commies are writing, they have so many insane presumptions about the world it’s easy to find out what their religion is

    • Javier says:

      I think I remember this guy. I read an article like this years ago where a tech dude talked to rich people about “the event.”

      the stupidity of it all is that the event is obviously going to be wide scale economic collapse due to worthless currency, and without money the western elite loses everything. it won’t be global either, China will likely survive just fine. the rich hidey holes will become very expensive graves for the roaming morlock hordes and eventual caesar

  10. Severian says:

    Russians abandon izyum completly. lyman under attack and will probably be abandoned soon. Russian command ostencibly doesn’t want to fight a battle with reinforcements arriving by piecemeal. the whole front must have been seriously undermanned.

    Only saving grace is they haven’t lost many men by retreating.

    • Severian says:

      In fact as Lyman is abandoned the retreats will probably continue further as it’s an important linchpin in the North of Donbas.
      My guess is the decision was taken by the Kremlin overnight and we’re just seeing the unfolding of a large retreat operation to ths Kharkiv region. Basically Kiev lite.

      What comes next?

      • spit roast beef says:

        What comes next?


      • S says:

        The Russians retreat, form a new line and resume pounding Ukrainian positions with artillery until Ukraine runs out of men. The center of gravity in war is the army.

        The only way the NATO advance changes the game is if they manage to break the Russians ability to wage war. This requires a breakthrough into the Russian rear. The speed and depth of the advance is not fast enough to pull that off. Alternatively the Russians aren’t able to reform a line, but I find that unlikely.

        To change the course of the war there needs to be a realization, a way to fix things and implementation. It isn’t clear NATO is capable of even the first step given they’ve waited this long expecting Ukraine to produce an offense on their own.

        • Severian says:

          Lyman is being defended and they should be able to hold the Oskil river. So that’s probably going to be the new frontline.

          • Kunning Druegger says:

            Unless NATO is willing to go full bore, the Hohols will not be able to hold a line like that. I have seen further corroboration of JJ’s assertion that many more NATO units are being moved into or toward the conflict, but in my estimation they waited too long; popular sentiment is shifting. Articles starting to appear about how “revolting and disliked” the Ruthenian refugees are. The young men who didn’t stay and fight are starting to show their colors, and there are only so many swastikas that can be tolerated by effeminate Europe before they become cross. I think we will see the biggest changes in Germany first, but I don’t think it will stay contained there. Italians seem to be very tired of bankrolling Zelensky and dealing with the refugees. Spain has already started to resist paying up for Zelensky. I cannot substantiate this, but I am fairly certain France is already coordinating with Putin. Turkey and France are the indicators here; they retain enough sovereignty, for various reasons, to pivot away from the GAE bloc position that has thus far dominated EU politics and response to the SMO, and they stand to gain the most if/when the NATO consensus falls apart. The Baltics will probably be the next conflict area, and it will probably begin once footage and reports of Russian speakers and “””collaborators””” being slaughtered in the reclaimed zones starts to pour out. It’s kind of hilarious, in a sick and twisted way, how the Banderists seem to be ready, willing, and able to make the same mistake the Nazis did; instead of focusing on the war at hand, they will begin slaughtering their version of the Jews, that being Russians and Russian speakers. The question in my mind is, will the NATO forces on the ground collaborate, ignore, or forestall the ethnic cleansing? The precedent is mixed, if we look at the Balkans.

            • Karl says:

              Maybe the mood in Germany will be shifting regarding sanctions, but not regarding Ruthenian refugees. Those on the right see them as deserters and draft dodgers, which is considered much better and more honorable than fighting against Russians. Those on the left never say anything against any refugees.

      • Globalist Power Terminated II says:

        What comes next?

        I dunno, someone once said that u should be expecting the unexpected or something like that.

    • Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

      Defense in depth is a matter of course for a historically fluent commander.

      The surest means of knowing where the enemy’s forces are attacking in strength is to ‘feel’ them moving through successive screens of picket lines, which you then flank with sickle cuts of mobile reserves. Such is basic doctrine for the Russian army.

  11. Alyosha says:

    I am in close contact to a very intelligent military analyst close to Scott Ritter. He knows that Russia has inflicted over 400,000 casualties onto the Ukrainian Military. He also knows that the Ukrainian Army will collapse soon, within 3 weeks, and any alleged gains that they might have made, which are unconfirmed and might not exist at all ie no gains possibly, will be completely reversed and more and only expose Ukrainian soldiers even more and will cause more rapid casualties to Ukrainian soldiers.

    Putin will guide us to victory. Z.

    • jim says:

      If they had taken four hundred thousand casualties, would have collapsed already.

      It is obvious that they have taken a great many casualties, but that they were able to launch this offensive, indicates fewer than I had thought.

      • Alyosha says:

        Perhaps. All correct maybe. But even the more conservatively estimating Scott Ritter himself I think estimated that Ukraine has suffered over 250,000 casualties, and that was many weeks ago if I remember right. So I could believe his friends estimate that weeks later it’s risen all the more higher and greater.

        • Karl says:

          “Casualties” sometimes includes wounded. One soldier who is wounded and later recovers might can be counted as a casualty although he is fighting again.

          • Kunning Drueger says:

            A casualty is any soldier or force member or operation participant who is rendered combat incapable. A guy who gets obliterated, a guy who gets shot and killed, a guy who gets wounded and sent rearward, a guy who gets unmanned and is sent rearward, a guy whose vehicle gets damaged and he is no longer able to move with his unit, a guy who gets captured, a guy whose unit is unable to hold or move to a position due to infrastructure damage or battlefield conditions; these can all be casualties. If some badass takes 3 hits to the plate and loses a few fingers, but refuses to be taken from his position, he is not a casualty, just as some reddit battalion pussy suddenly realizes parity in warfare is not a lived experience he wishes to entertain and therefore flees is a casualty.

            if a whole platoon retreats after losing a single guy, they can be counted as casualties. If an officer fails to check in with a status update, he and his men can be counted as casualties. When counting enemy dead, each documented body part can be counted as an individual casualty. The first thing any serious warfare historian, armchair or otherwise, learns to do is disregard “casualties” as a meaningful term. Must official casualty reports have a section wherein the describe what they consider a casualty and a table or index with a terminological breakdown. Some countries over count both their own and the enemy, others just their own or just the enemy. Media entities inflate and deflate counts at their whim. Generals inflate when they require resupply and deflate when they need job security. Casualty reports are more often noise than signal and have to be interpreted carefully.

      • Alyosha says:

        Of course I admit it’s also possible that Ritter’s colleague has overestimated the casaulties and Russian successes and it might even be possible that Scott Ritter has overestimated the casaulties and Russian successes. But also possible that maybe they’re right and have been right.

        • ArkyShrugger says:

          Ritter told Judge Napolitano that Ukraine has lost 60% of its officer corps, and has an army of 700K. Sixty percent of 700K is just over 400K. Maybe someone misheard Ritter and did some math, and came up with Ukraine losses of 400K.

    • Anonymous Fake says:

      [*deleted for disconnection to reality*]

      • jim says:

        I am not at all sure what the Ukrainian situation is, but I know what it is not.

        • Anonymous Fake says:

          Look just being able to draft at all with a 1.2 fertility rate is proof of what I’m saying being true. Moribund nations that aren’t dead yet can temporarily create shockingly huge armies because any coup capable leader who could overthrow a tyrant and his draft has already left.

          Russia has been wrestling with an implausibly massive opponent that regenerates its military losses absurdly easily, despite falling apart in every other way. It’s doing as much damage as it can to Russia with its dying momentum.

          Motivation can create a huge army, and so can a robust population growth, but what we see now is that an extremely low fertility rate can too.

          • jim says:

            I don’t think anyone doubts that you can put together a huge army by conscripting everyone and shooting deserters. And this true, uncontroversial, and boring fact is a horse pulling a wagonload of lies. Which I am going to go right on deleting rather than debating, because debating unresponsive shills wastes far too much space.

  12. A2 says:

    Steve Bannon just got arrested in NYC for errr newly found charges related to something for which he has already been pardoned. That’s just how NYC works.

    • Kunning Druegger says:

      It’s being reported that he turned himself in. This ties into my post below, in a way. Conservatives are going to put themselves into the camps if something doesn’t change culturally soon. Remember how many kiwis voluntarily turned in their guns after the Mosque False Flag attack? As I recall, people were making videos, crowing about how proud they were to disarm themselves. I expect the same to happen here, with some conservative Judas Goat like Ben Shapiro leading the charge. I have also seen conservative commentators on YouTube talking about how “no one is above the law” in reference to the Trumped up charges from DOJ regarding the “top secret documents.” Mainstream conservatives seem perfectly comfortable with making sure their own get “justice’d” to the letter while being completely blind to negro and female behavior. It is unbearably frustrating.

    • Your Uncle Bob says:

      Turned himself in, still got handcuffed and perp-walked for the media. That’s not a great sign for the rest of us. An even worse sign is he was one of the few who did get a Trump pardon, out of the many who should have, and it’s not worth anything to the Who?, Whom? crowd.

      The police in the video were all middle-aged white men, overweight but with a little muscle underneath, and not too short. That’s a mixed bag in regards to another conversation below, but it’s not the case they’re all midgets and Shaniquas yet.

      • Dr. Faust says:

        All cops are bastards. Don’t care that ACAB is a lefty meme. Conservatards ran that dumb back the blue campaign not realizing that the police do nothing but protect blacks from whites. Without police protection whites would protect themselves.

        • Kunning Druegger says:

          The problem I have with this stance is that the Right is not in a position to be turning folks away I get what you’re saying, and I have written extensively in this specific section about the foolish sheepdog mentality, but it remains plain that we on the Right need them to wake up to what’s happening, not accept that it can’t be any other way. They need to be shamed, not shunned at this point. Down the road, who can say.

        • jim says:

          I, who have the nigh miraculous ability to talk to cops (not recommending that other people try it) have found that not all cops are bastards. Most of them are good people trapped in a horrifyingly evil system.

          If the state would let them enforce the law as written, things would be fine.

          What I expect of a good cop is not that he will enforce the law as written, but that he will look the other way when I enforce the spirit of Old Testament law. And, what do you know, lots of good cops.

          • The Cominator says:

            Good people don’t volunteer to work in an evil system doing evil things except perhaps if the alternative is starving.

            • jim says:

              It is a high status job with good pay and prospects for dumb people, and normality bias, plus stupidity, makes it hard to perceive the evil until one slowly accommodates to it by small degrees.

              As a result of lust and wrath, have committed no end of illegal acts without a stain on my character, and quite rarely had to resort to expensive lawyers. And this is largely a result of good cops quietly evading doing the wrong thing.

            • Kunning Druegger says:

              Com, do you pay your taxes?

              • clovis says:

                Remote passive cooperation in evil, as the Pope says about the
                vaccine. That’s what paying taxes is. Being a cop is not so remote or so passive cooperation in evil, but just like a lot of public school teachers got into it with good intentions not knowing what would be required of them, same thing is true of cops. Then you try to tell yourself you’re still doing some good despite all the nonsense because starting your career again in middle age is hard.

  13. Kunning Drueger says:

    in 2023, the state of Illinois will be drastically changing how bail works. The details I am about to relate are hearsay based on a social media post I overheard, so take with salt and by all means fact check me and correct as needed or desired.

    Purportedly, not only will the vast majority of felonious crime be shifted to no cash bail, but further enforcement restrictions will see no removal of trespassers from property by police (offenders will be ticketed) and house arrest and electronically monitored “people” will not be sought after until 48 hours have passed. There are other significant changes as well.

    This is insane for many reasons, and the only goal is to weaponize negros against white and law abiding populations. While plains apes will be able to squat literally wherever they want, you can bet your ass the cops will arrest anyone who helps those who fuck around find out. Further still, only conservatives and honest people will abide by court dates and orders, pay bills, respond to summonses, and generally make it trivial for law enforcement to find them and punish them. Consider how few blacks actually pay taxes, obtain and carry documents and identification, or participate in polite society. This is a normalization of the worst aspects of urban shitholes, and it is going to result in the dystopia of Chi-Raq expanding to the borders of the state. I don’t think it will be overnight, but it will happen exponentially, and MSM selective coverage will mean the nation at large will hear about every single instance of a tax-cuck losing their cool, and nothing at all of diversity+proximity results, no matter how often or extreme.

    Thinking men and warriors on this blog will be able to quickly deduce ways to take this situation and turn it into an opportunity, so I’m not going to list some of the ideas I already have. But I will go ahead and state that I believe this is directly tied to the shift towards white genocide becoming a physical reality as well as an initiative intended to facilitate a further unveiling of the permanent bureaucracy taking explicit control and dispensing with the democracy charade. The Adversaries are banking on the expectation that sheepdogs will continue to enforce the laws selectively as ordered, and the citizen participators will just go along with it. I believe the 2026 prediction is still on track and useful for planning and countermeasures, but we should also be prepared for a breakneck acceleration from 2023-2026, particularly the final fourth of that span. The elite faction in power must secure their persons and property, so the creation and expansion of private security groups who answer to their clients alone is basically guaranteed.

  14. Adam says:

    Weren’t the 87,000 new IRS agents supposed to be armed or did I imagine that part? Had a normie friend tell me today they weren’t armed and I couldn’t find any credible information.

    Anyone have a non-bullshit source of information on this?

  15. Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

    News preacher: ”Far right extremist groups’ like Oathkeepers are full of federal law enforcement; this proves we need to have more feds in them, to keep an eye on all the feds.’

  16. Anonymous Fake says:


    • jim says:

      The value of nationalism depends on the value of the nation.

      • Anonymous Fake says:


        • jim says:

          You are as unfamiliar with nationalists and nationalism as you are unfamiliar with conservatives and conservatism. I am not going to allow you to lecture us on your hallucinations on what is outside your bubble.

          You passed the Christianity test, and it understandable and forgivable that you are unfamiliar with non converged, non gay, and non demon worshipping Christianity. Not a lot of it around. But there is no excuse for being unfamiliar with conservatives and nationalists. You need to get outside your bubble.

          • Anonymous Fake says:

            18th century nationalism was used to replace kings (those born into power) with politicians (those hungry for power) based on pointless ethnic squabbling. The Church was of course attacked too, for being an institution for those hungry for power yet unable to use it for money or sex. Yes, there was corruption, but it was better than what came after.

            19th century nationalism was used to attack Christianity by suppressing Latin and Greek as the universal languages, as well as local traditional dialects and their cultures, with completely artificial languages imposed by government schools.

            20th century nationalism gave us every stupid conflict you can imagine, from WWI to Black Panthers to The Troubles. Globalists, either neocons or commies, got away with looking more respectable than they deserved against the nationalist straw men.

            Now we have 21st century nationalists, Ukraine’s cannon fodder goyim, fighting for globohomo and their glorious leader Zelensky because the flag and the anthem were shown and played at the right moments to brainwash them. They will readily kill their Russian brothers due to the uncanny valley gap, but will gladly submit to Brussels as long as they get to keep their blue and yellow flag next to the rainbow flag.

            Any word that ends in “-ism” is going to end badly except for Catholicism. Nationalism ends unusually badly even by secular standards. It begins badly, too. We don’t need it and allowing the left to use it as a punching bag straw man is not in our interest.

            • jim says:

              Nationalism has been used by leftists against Kings and Empires. And it has been used by Kings and Empires against international leftists.

              Right now nationalist leftism is no more, except in the Ukraine. Our enemy is international leftism, the “Global Rules Based Order” (Where they get to decide the rules from moment to moment and not tell anyone what they are)

            • Contaminated NEET says:

              >18th century nationalism was used to replace kings (those born into power) with politicians (those hungry for power) based on pointless ethnic squabbling.

              Why and how did nationalism do this replacing? It triumphed because it was better than kings at motivating and organizing huge masses of cannon fodder to fight, exactly “because the flag and the anthem were shown and played at the right moments to brainwash them.” Changes in military and propaganda technology made huge masses of cannon fodder a better bet than small armies of elite warrior-aristocrats motivated by personal loyalty to each other. Until and unless things change, nationalism, for all its flaws, is the best way to win wars. Even the Soviet Union went hard into nationalism when the chips were down and it was either victory or annihilation. You can think you’re better than nationalism, but when you get into a fight with a nationalist neighbor, you can adopt it, or you can perish.

              Of course, Jim contends that things have changed, and wave after wave of expendable zerglings is no longer the dominant strategy. We’ll see. There hasn’t been a serious fight between great powers since 1945, and no one can really know until there is.

              • jim says:

                > Changes in military and propaganda technology made huge masses of cannon fodder a better bet than small armies of elite warrior-aristocrats motivated by personal loyalty to each other. Until and unless things change, nationalism, for all its flaws, is the best way to win war

                Technological change renders hordes of grunts irrelevant, though neither side in Ukraine has quite figured out the implications and the technology.

                If you stuff a horde of grunts into trenches, this enables your people and equipment to move through the territory, and prevents the other side from moving through the territory. That still works. But you lose grunts at an intolerable rate. The Russians are adapting to the new reality faster than the Ukrainians, but everyone is still using equipment, tactics, strategy, and training designed for World War II.

                The Bismark was the most formidable battleship ever. It could move faster than any other battleship, and it could sink other battleships at range where they could not fire back, because the Bismark’s guns had longer range. And then some biplanes launched from a small primitive aircraft carrier damaged the rudder so that it could no longer move faster than any other battleship, and a horde of battleships closed on it and sank it.

                Not very long thereafter, battleships ceased to be relevant, and sea battles consisted of aircraft carriers sending their planes at each other. We are still in the “sink the Bismark” phase of adapting to technological change in war.

            • Fidelis says:

              Any word that ends in “-ism” is going to end badly except for Catholicism.

              jim, I recall how you said the 39 articles came about to combat demon worshippers able to rationalize their worship and pass nicene tests. AF here reeks of the lavender mafia crowd, perhaps you need to revive such.

              • Kunning Druegger says:

                I was just contemplating this. Every time xir posts “we” or “us” my skin crawls.

                • jim says:

                  It is absolutely obvious he is not we or us, and the state of the vatican shows that my short demon worshipper test is not bulletproof, though it seems to catch most of them.

                  I may take to banning any post phrased as “hail fellow X”, when it it competely obvious that the author is not X

            • The Cominator says:

              there was no 18th century nationalism except the natural nationalism of preferring your own, 19th century nationalism was cancer and was the same as the 20th century nationalism which caused the world wars.

              • jim says:

                We have always had natural nationalism, as for example the gens of the Roman Republic.

                The founders of Rome traced descent in the male line from Alba, and those that were high ranking by primogeniture became the fathers of the Roman aristocracy, directly related to each other in the male line, grouped by descent in the male line, and with authority within a gens according to primogeniture in the male line. And the horde of random armed refugees that joined up became the ancestors of the plebs. But the plebs, despite their lack of biological connection, seem to have been fiercely patriotic and loyal to Kings who claimed descent in the male line by primogeniture from Romulus, who claimed descent from Alba, albeit Romulus’s claim to primogeniture was doubtless fictional.

                The plebs seem to have been unenthused by the Republic, and rather keen on legitimate monarchy. The big point of the Aenid being to give Caesar Augustus fictional legitimacy.

                • zero says:

                  All monarchies have some level of myth around them, but why is Romulus connection to Alba likely fake? All the royal families in Europe had likely legitimate descent from both Robert and Charlemagne.

                • jim says:

                  Probably descended from Alba, since the group that formed the governing elite in Rome were descended from Alba, (and pretty much everyone in a leadership position in the entire region was descended from Alba) but legitimacy and nobility was by primogeniture. That he was raised by wolves would imply illegitimate.

                  What was supposed to happen, is that a bunch of albans should have as their leader the man who had descent through the eldest, as in “I am the eldest legitimate son of X, who was the eldest legitimate son of Y, who was the eldest legitimate son of Z, while you are the eldest son of Y’s younger brother, so I am in charge”. That Romulus killed Remus suggests that they were led by the man with the swiftest sword.

                  A man could have only one wife, but an unlimited number of slave girls and concubines. However, sons by slave girls though they inherited membership of the group and protection by the group, did not inherent status, so the sons by slave girls were always under the authority of the eldest son of the legitimate wife. Sons by concubines were even worse of, not even inheriting membership of the group and protection by the group.

                • zero says:

                  That makes a lot of sense. I wonder if raised by wolves is a euphemism for being raised in the trojan war camp before the Sabines, it wasn’t uncommon for the poor to use dogs as nurses. I didn’t consider the lack of primogeniture, but the history of Romulus does have a big old hole there.

    • Globalist Power Terminated II says:

      Wow, really bro? That’s crazy.

  17. Leon says:

    How much free testosterone did men used to have a century ago? I just took a free testosterone test and scored 160.8 pg/ ml.

  18. Anon says:

    Queen Elizabeth is dead. RIP
    king Charles III reign is declared
    The wheel of history keep turning..
    Is it Charles I reign or Charles II reign?

  19. Cloudswrest says:

    Off topic. This mosquito abatement “algorithm” looks pretty shady to me. So let me get this straight. So instead of breeding mutant mosquitoes to diminish, or even EXTINCT (preferable) the wild mosquito population, they’re breeding mutant mosquitoes to make the wild population “human friendly” in the sense that they will no longer spread “dengue and other viruses” because the “new” mosquitoes carry some viral suppression bacteria!!! Sounds like dual use research to me!!!!!

    • JustAnotherGuy says:

      It might also just be plain Gaia demon worship. Pests like coakroaches, bed bugs, and the rest could be easily eliminated if the cathedralites didn’t think of keeping them around as holy (and even eating them in the future to be holy). Here they banned pretty much everything that could be used to kill roaches over bs pretenses when I know in my gut its just gaia demons telling them what to do.

  20. Severian says:

    Ukrainians just took back a sizable portion south of Kharkiv including the small city Balakley. Barely any Russian forces to hold them back. That was a bigger victory than the whole Kherson offensive they tried.

    • Kunning Druegger says:

      Don’t get too excited; Wagner and a bunch of militias are assaulting Bahkmut. The AFU is trying to pile through their salient in the south, pulling a ton of units from elsewhere. If the AFU can hold and expand the salient, they may strengthen their position at the negotiation table. But I don’t see it being very likely that they will turn the tide in any real way.

      Hue and cry is going up all over Russian telegram over the RF leadership leaving the AFU supply arteries intact, and I think it’s a valid point. But, just as Trump was not a desperate moron grasping at straws, the RF is not some shit tier paper military. They may have underestimated the AFU’s ability to conduct an offensive, but I think it’s equally likely that they are more interested in depleting NATO assets than they are looking undefeated on paper.

      • Tomatobeef says:

        “the RF is not some shit tier paper military. They may have underestimated the AFU’s ability to conduct an offensive, ”

        Six months into this crap and stuff like this happens? Yes, yes, they totally are a shit tier paper military. They had a small elite that was capable, as seen in Crimea and Syria, and a lot of drunken dumbasses led by corruptocrats. The small elite has been bled dry by attempting to support the drunken dumbasses. Insisting that everything is secretly going exactly as intended is the same “trust the plan, guys” bullshit that dumbasses on the right have been swallowing since GWB and that culminated in the self-own of J6. No. Don’t trust the plan, trust the evidence of your own eyes. If the evidence of your own eyes says that Trump is a lazy incompetent dumbass grasping at straws and unworthy of putting your own life and freedom on the line for him, then he probably is a lazy incompetent dumbass and putting your life and freedom on the line for him might end with you in solitary and the subject of a political show trial AND YOU SHOULDN’T DO THAT. If the evidence of your own eyes is that the Russians are incompetent drunken dumbasses, THEN THE RUSSIANS ARE PROBABLY INCOMPETENT DRUNKEN DUMBASSES no matter how much you wish it were otherwise.

        Do not trust human authorities on any topic where said authority conflicts with visible evidence. Put not your faith in princes and all that crap. Trump is a decent guy who was totally out of his depth in the shark pool and was never a savior. Putin is a corrupt asshole who is perfectly capable of speaking the truth when it serves his purposes, but he massively misjudged everything about this from top to bottom and he is not your savior either. No matter how much you want a savior.

        And Jim is just trying to run an imitation cult here, with his imitation shahadas and so on. Don’t trust him anymore than you trust anybody you don’t know personally.

        As for Kherson and “tried”, I don’t know why you bootlickers keep trying to assert your preferred reality into existence. It doesn’t matter how you characterize it beforehand, what matters is what the end result is. The end result is not in view yet. What is in view is trends, which are that the fighting near Kherson is ongoing, the intensity is as high as it has ever been anywhere in this conflict, that intensity is being sustained, the Ukrainains are provably gaining ground on a daily basis, and all the bridges are out. Ukraine has supply lines, Russia doesn’t. You cannot wish these facts out of existence by repeatedly asserting a la Vox Day that the offensive is “over” just because you desperately wish it so.

        In short:


        • jim says:

          “the RF is not some shit tier paper military. They may have underestimated the AFU’s ability to conduct an offensive, ”

          Six months into this crap and stuff like this happens?

          “shit like this” looks suspiciously like direct combat between Russian forces and NATO. We are hearing people from the “Ukrainian” offensive speaking in English.

          It was obvious that Russian forces were about to defeat Ukraine. Ukrainian forces have taken intolerable casualties, and are collapsing. The current Kherson offensive of was preceded by repeated attempt to launch the offensive using only plausibly Ukrainian forces, and in each attempt the Ukrainian forces collapsed. Collapse was imminent on the eastern front.

          So it now looks like NATO is now directly intervening to save Ukraine from imminent collapse, or rather more directly intervening than in its previous somewhat deniable interventions. We shall see if Russia is shit tier compared to NATO when we hear (on the alt right media, you are not going to read it the lamestream media) of significant NATO casualties.

          We saw what happened when the west sent mercs. Looks like it is now sending troops with a less readily deniable connection to the Global American Empire. Though the connection will continue to be piously denied for quite a while.

          • Pseudo-Chrysostom says:


            Obviously, those aren’t dushkas, but M2s.

            We always knew of course, but they’re just getting openly blatant with it now.

            Signs of desperation at this point. The polygon could keep its cattle irrational indefinitely, but the solvency of its forces on the ground couldn’t be spoken of the same way; the situation remaining as it was was not sustainable, and the longer it went on the worse their standing would get; a ‘battle of the bulge’ sooner rather than later was the only bet to make. Alea iacta est.

          • Karl says:

            Any idea how much troops NATO committed to this operation? Just some NATO officers moved from staff work to field work or are NATO troops driving NATO tanks and operating NATO howitzers?

            • jim says:

              It is a deep dark secret. And I do not know the answer. Officially, none. Hard to tell. But if NATO is the reason why this offensive finally got off the ground after endless fails, would have to be a significant force.

        • Kunning Druegger says:

          Let’s circle back in 2 weeks, Mr. Tomato. All of the Slava Ukraini posters from March and April mysteriously disappeared when Putin wasn’t ousted and the RF altered its strategy and the momentum. All the economic geniuses got mysteriously invisible as well when the ruble rebounded and the sanctions flew all the way around the planet, bypassing Russia and landing in the EU. I can’t be sure, but I don’t think this will be much different.

        • Adam says:

          Welcome back Whitey.

    • Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

      When the ‘secret offensive’ that was announced months in advance actually started going ahead, i found myself pleased, because it means the puppet regime has abandoned it’s holding action and rapidly accelerated the time-table on total destruction of their forces by throwing the into the woodchipper, even when momentary gains give an appearance of strength in the short term.

      • Kunning Druegger says:

        FWIW, the reasonable Z commentators are saying that the RF forces are being rocked back pretty hard in specific spots due to changes in tactics and the NATO contingents leading. Much hay will be made of this, of that we can be sure.

        The battlefield changes are of little importance; what must be explained is why the RF high command is leaving the supply columns and routes untouched. On the side of optimism, they want to compel Zelensky and the prattling commentary corps to induce a massive push into the salient, leaving everything else weak. I don’t honestly know what the GAE would do if the AFU and the foreign detachments all invested Kherson, then the RF nuked it. Condemnation, yes, moaning and wailing, when do they not, but… can you imagine a more stark statement of intention? All of the recently bloodied NATO SOF guys, the leaders, and the largest army in Europe, gone.

        I don’t think this is likely, just musing about how one would speed up the annihilation of opposition, and luring them into what appears to be a breakout due to grave miscalculation would probably work.

        • jim says:

          Possibly Russia is losing.

          On the other hand, after the first few weeks they abandoned war of movement and accepted the war of attrition that the Global American Empire was seeking to impose, and in the fall of Severodonetsk., their tactics look like they were content to not take Severodonetsk as long as the Global American Empire was content to continue feeding troops into the woodchipper. One may optimistically hope that a similar strategy is unfolding in Kherson.

          • Severian says:

            Current picture from pro Russia Rybar.

            Whole west Izyum front seems to be falling apart. There better be some Russian BTGs on the way.

            • Kunning Druegger says:

              I am pro-Z, and I want Russia to win, so keep that in mind.

              We have 2 instances to consider: there’s an extant example of RF military underestimating the AFU and over estimating the effects of their tactical endeavors; there’s an extant example of a strategic feint that looked very much like a tactical blunder.

              In the first instance, Putin was not alone in his assessment. Literally everyone thought Zelensky would flee, the AFU capitulate, and the whole affair settled in a matter of days or weeks. Normalcy bias gets all of us in some way at some point. Contrary to the “Basil” types, once the AFU held and the RF had to change doctrine, they did so, and quite rapidly. For those that think it was not swift, consider how many years it took for the USM to cobble together and deploy the Surge Tactic, which wasn’t some genius, complicated triple backflip of an idea. So, if in fact the RF MoD has been buggered for fair, the precedent is that GAE MSM will crow about victory pride parades in Moscow for a few weeks, AFU will continue to push into liberated Russian clay (going slower and slower with each passing day, as the same army that was getting mercilessly ground down last week won’t suddenly transmogrify into a new, fresh army), a few RF generals will be sacked, and the Russians will shift tactics yet again.

              In the second instance, it is still not clear whether the push toward Kiev was a feint by design, or if it became a feint by necessity. The Necessity option makes a certain amount of sense; the RF thought their SOF would deploy an enclave of based warriors and, after the AFU capitulated, the tank columns out of Belarus would parade into Kiev and relieve them. When that failed, the SMO pivoted in purpose while leaving the conscript army “stalled” in place to draw off and lock down the AFU elements in that theater. If it was always going to be a feint or not, the precedent here is that a bad turn for the RF provides an opportunity for them to convert it into a good outcome. As I wrote above, I don’t think it would take too much footage and “footage” of RF forces and DPR/LPR militias getting beaten back and defeated in detail to induce a literal global demand for Zelensky to pour everything he has into a widening salient and “break their backs.” Planned, expected, or otherwise, this would provide Russia with an opportunity to annihilate them in a massive cauldron, but that would require mass mobilization or a string of nuclear strikes, both of which, at this moment, seem unlikely.

              I think a lot will be made clear in the next 2 weeks, but it might not seem that way. There’s a reason we are suddenly hearing English and seeing AR platform rifles and .50cals in the battle vids instead of hearing Slavic and seeing AKs and DShKs. The NATO contingent that has been holding back in country has been thrown into this offensive, and I will state (and may be proven wrong, we’ll see) that I think the NATO shadow leadership that has been pulling strings behind the scenes is stepping into the light and taking over the actual fighting of the war. Whether this is tactical or strategic, I cannot say, but the AFU has been suffering grievously all summer, and, as @RYBAR has pointed out, if the AFU offensive isn’t stopped and Izyum falls, the fall offensive planned out by the RF is probably going to be aborted.

              Either way, we are not on Musk time, Soros time, or normie time. Ukraine was never going to be the finish line, it is merely the opening campaign in the Third World War.

              • Severian says:

                I also want western elites to get their teeth kicked in. I just think the Russians have been kind of making it up as they go along.

                It’s also obvious Putin underestimated the extent of and how willing the EU was to sacrifice itself to the US. Had he been wise to it, he would be already building gas pipelines to Asia before the war. Meanwhile EU is building LNG terminals.
                China has been reluctant to help with tech imports too, probably because they don’t want to risk their own export markets with sanctions for now.

                I will refrain from military predictions because we just don’t know the true state of RF and AFU forces and their capabilities. But it’s not very clear to me that Russia can prevail in wider economic war as a whole and there is the distinct possibility that this thing may have been a blunder.

            • The Cominator says:

              So they are rushing out of their defensive positions into a bulge with a river in the way…

              Hopefully the Russians are giving ground in order to encircle the troops who rush into the Bulge.

              • Kunning Druegger says:

                I mean, it took me 8 paragraphs spread between 2 separate posts, but yeah, that’s what I said lol jk.

                The issue is head count. The RF is dwarfed by the AFU in Ukraine proper. Of course, the RF is a continental military and the AFU is a regional military, but it’s not like the RF can (or should) pull troops from elsewhere and put them in UKR. In fact, I’d argue that Putin expects this conflict to escalate and spread, which is why he hasn’t gone for a general mobilization or greatly increased the troop commitments to the SMO. It’s like he expects the hammer(s) to fall elsewhere, no matter how bad it seems.

                To annihilate the AFU in an encirclement/cauldron, I think he would need significantly more troops and assets than are in place currently.

                • The Cominator says:

                  the Ukranians could be pinned down on their front with minimal troops plus artillery once they hit the river.. if the Russians can also restrict reinforcements via artillery from attacking the encirclement pincers maybe they don’t need overwhelming numbers…

              • jim says:

                I think they will parallel the Russian Severodonetsk strategy, where they made no attempt to close the cauldron. Ukraine just eventually wised up and stopped dumping fresh troops into the meat grinder.

                Likely the Russians will not attempt war of maneuver until things have ground on for quite a while. Current strategy is attrition. They did not want or expect a war of attrition, but are now fighting one. We will likely soon see if NATO has stomach for attrition. NATO has shown surprising acceptance of economic hardship, so far. Winters get cold in Europe, however.

                • Karl says:

                  Easy for NATO governments to accept economic hardship; the Greens are all for it and NATO population can’t do anything about economic hardship.

                  Finding NATO soldiers for a war of attrition is more difficult as very few people volunteer for a war of attrition.

                • Aidan says:

                  The economic hardship “inflicted” on NATO is exactly what the gaea-worshippers and great reset commies want.

        • Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

          ” The Russian soldier is temperamentally unstable; he is carried on by the herd instinct and is therefore not able to endure a sudden change from a triumphant advance to an enforced and precipitate withdrawal. During the counterattack we witnessed scenes of almost unparalleled panic among the Russians, to the astonishment of those who had experienced the stubborn, almost fanatical resistance the Russians put up in well-planned and efficiently organized defenses. It is true that the Russian can be superb in defense and reckless in mass attacks, but when faced by surprise and unforeseen situations he is an easy prey to panic. Field Marshal von Manstein proved in this operation that Russian mass attacks should be met by maneuver and not by rigid defense. The weakness of the Russian lies in his inability to face surprise; there he is most vulnerable. Manstein realized his weakness. He also realized that his own strength lay in the superior training of his junior commanders and their capacity for independent action and leadership. Thus he could afford to let his divisions withdraw for hundreds of miles, and then stage a smashing counterattack with the same divisions, which inflicted heavy blows on their startled and bewildered opponents. ”

          • Kunning Druegger says:

            Everyone needs to go to that link and read the whole page, every entry. Non-negotiable.

    • Kunning Druegger says:

      Here’s an interview with Scott Ritter. Purportedly, all of his predictions have been dead on. The short and sweet tl;dw is that the offensive is over, the RF gave ground to spare their soldiers, and the meat grinder is going to ramp up yet again.

      This fully supports some of my assertions, but we won’t see the full picture for a while, maybe ever. A note on the source: this Judge Napolitano is pretty much a Law & Order conservative, and for this I find him decidedly grating. He does cover interesting topics and has good guests occasionally.

      • Kunning Druegger says:

        Apologies for samefagging.

        >Ritter asserts that the AFU is now a NATO military force, and he says so explicitly.

        >Ritter asserts that so long as UKR does anything but capitulate, Putin won’t stop.

        >Ritter doesn’t believe the RF will initiate action against NATO nations outside of UKR proper. He says that Putin wants a resumption of the 1997 boundaries, then states that Putin wants NATO infrastructure and troops out of Poland and the Baltics.

        >Ritter asserts that the IC in the US is choosing to believe Russia is weaker than it is, and that is affecting their advice and operations. He further states that this is occurring at the upper management layer, and that it is political, not delusional. [here we see Ritter’s normalcy bias showing]

        >Ritter predicts collapsing governments and civil unrest due to the support of Ukraine.

        >Ritter postulates that the US military industrial complex will be building equipment for Ukraine, as opposed to shipping its reserves and field assets, which is what has been happening up until now.

        >Ritter predicts that there won’t be a “Ukraine” by this time next year.

    • JJ says:

      There is a pretty good analysis of the Ukrainian counteroffensive near Kharkov on this new blog here.

      Briefly, there is no operational risk to the Russian war effort in the Ukrainian land from such counteroffensives, but Ukrainian forces can temporarily take towns and kill civilians who had worked with the Russians.

      • Kunning Druegger says:

        >Ukrainian forces can temporarily take towns and kill civilians who had worked with the Russians

        These allegations started making the rounds ~24 hours ago, and footage has begun to leak out. Additionally, there are rumors that at least once, AFU soldiers requested evac due to overwhelming opposition and artillery, gave their coordinates, and then were bombarded by AFU artillery. When this all comes to light, millions of GAE subjects will somehow blame Russia, Trump, or Christianity for the atrocities committed by literal neo-Nazis.

      • JJ says:

        New information might repudiate my previous post. Russia may be directly fighting NATO. This is from a German anon on /pol/ so please take it with a grain of salt.

        Not just mercenaries.

        My brother’s entire unit “volunteered”. They have full support of NATO. We had a “celebration” before he was sent off, where he drunkenly said so much.

        Originally he just worked in the background, like recently help Ukraine creating whole battalions of non-Ukrainians to send off to the Kherson meatgrinder for ethnic cleansing. And this was fully intentional. Poles from Lemberg, Hungarians from Transcarpathia, Romanians, Moldovans and Russians from Odessa. Full of patriotic idiots and folks who were involuntarily sent to their deaths under the threat of being shot. And the Russians helped them in that.

        But days ago, my brother wrote me that he is “finally seeing some action”. NATO only does that when chance of victory is 99%, otherwise they would need to explain why NATO troops are among the fallen and the POV. You can’t handwave that as mere mercenaries, the Russians have a secret service as well.

        Basically NATO is pretty sure they are gonna win Balakleya, Kupyansk and Izyum. They are going all in there. I assume this is what caught the Russians off-guard. They just expected Ukrainians? Still no excuse, troop movement just don’t happen over night.

        • jim says:

          Izyum is, according to Big Serge, the key on which it all turns. Take Izyum quickly, they can roll up Russian forces in war of movement. Don’t taky Izyum, they are fighting an attritive battle while stuck in a killing field.

          • Alyosha says:

            Sources seem to claim Izyum has fallen, posting pictures of a Ukraine flag being raised of it allegedly. Wonder if they’re true or fake images. If true hopefully will be recaptured soon.

          • Kunning Druegger says:

            Even if they do, their offensive is the same as what ISIS did in Syria and Iraq. They are using IFVs in small squads to lightning into positions held by reservists and guards units, which is then followed up by armored detachments. This type of warfare can consume a desert country remarkably fast, but it is incredibly sensitive to air attacks, and it only gets you a serial node network. Great for propaganda pictures, useless for consolidation and defense. They appear to outnumber RF manpower 3-4 to 1, and it also appears they are taking casualties 5 to 1. This is not the German Army of 1940, it is a NATO army using Daesh tactics.

            We can confidently assert that this is a one-off, propaganda offensive if there’s no follow up. We shall see what they do with the expanded salient. Humvees and Buffalos are not going to fare well against massive artillery bombardment. They had 8 years to build the defenses the RF was grinding through all summer. I think this was a massive and costly push to get morale in the GAE up, and to ethnically cleanse traditional Russian speakers for the expected negotiated settlement they think they will be getting in November.

            • S says:

              Isn’t that totally delusional on NATO’s part? The reason Putin is reserving strength is because he expects he will need it in the future to fight NATO. Being able to fight NATO forces piecemeal and in a situation optimal for Russia flips the incentives; instead of wanting the end the war as quickly as possible, they want to extend it as long as possible to destroy as much of NATO’s conventional forces as possible.

              • The Cominator says:

                This is part of the reason I suspect Russia has been dragging it out, NATO depletes their high tech stuff while Russia is just using unlimited shells.

                • Kunning Druegger says:

                  This, and testing tactics and learning how large the gaps are between theory and practice.

  21. Kunning Druegger says:

    Yarvin’s latest:

    I haven’t read it yet, not past the first paragraph, but I will make a kneejerk prediction: Uncle Yarv is still a lurker here. I accept that I may be wrong, and apologies to those of us who can’t stand him.

    • Adam says:

      Well if he would get to the point from time to time that would be nice.

      People in denial complicate the shit out of everything.

    • someDude says:

      You think Uncle Yarv lurks here? I give it a 20% chance that Uncle Bannon lurks here with the certainty that Prophet Jim is too much of a red-pill even for him to swallow.

      Now, if Uncle Trump lurked here, he would have been God Emperor Trump by now.

      But I’m pretty sure that some influential people do lurk here. I’ve seen more than a couple memes in the mainstream that first made their debut on the comments section of this blog. That can’t be a co-incidence.

      If I were American, I would be praying that a future General Monck or Future Augustus was lurking at this blog.

      As it is I am hoping that Suones can become a sort of Hindu Jim. We already have a Hindu Yarvin here,

      • The Cominator says:

        DharmicReality is your best commenter by a lot…

      • Mister Grumpus says:

        If not the future Monck/Augustus lurking here, then at least the voices in the wilderness calling his name.

        Without a means of mass communication that resistant to both shills and censorship, which Jim and the super brain crew are at least doing a great job of describing and white-papering, crickets and wild honey are all we’ve got.

        It’s analogous to the reformation, which was ultimately the result of 1) the catholic church being rather corrupt and 2) outsiders and discontents suddenly being able to write, print and distribute books.

        You remember 2015-2016 4chan and Twitter I mean holy shit.

        • Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

          Procedural, committee based institutions only have one way of learning truth, and that is dashing their ships against the rocks of Being; only while the splinters are being gathered from the wreckage to build new ships does the question of how to chart a different course become actionable.

          The sclerosis of peacetime militaries are a classic example of this. That a peacetime military will run into catastrophes on the joining of conflict is, in practical terms, an inevitability. The most important thing then for the clouds of visionaries with competing visions vying for social dominance, is not so much that the visions which were relevant to the catastrophe were not adopted ahead of time – which is simply all too expectable – but that they are already sitting there ‘on the shelf’, available to be pulled off and applied immediately in the inevitable event of calamity.

          That is one of the great value of fertilizing the discourse with your memes.

          • Kunning Druegger says:

            >The sclerosis of peacetime militaries are a classic example of this. That a peacetime military will run into catastrophes on the joining of conflict is, in practical terms, an inevitability.

            Here’s an excellent study of this occurrence covering the Royal Navy. Wonderfully detailed, not at all “fiction-ized” as so many history books seem to be these days:


            The Rules of the Game by Andrew Gordon

            He covers Jutland in painstaking detail while documenting and drawing parallels with Nelson’s navy and how it became little more than a well ordered joke due to no dangerous adversaries and the insidious effects of flag signaling usurping individual captains’ initiative. Cannot recommend it enough.

  22. Cloudswrest says:

    “Jimian” women in real life.

    • Kunning Druegger says:

      Indeed. Couldn’t have asked for it louder. I’ve noticed, on the extremely rare instance I’ve actually discussed the “come get me” actions/tendencies of wahmens, even hard conservatives have a hard time agreeing with or even seeing such actions for what they are. A big aspect of this is that, with notable exceptions, these females don’t realize what they are doing, it’s their lower brain pushing them to advertise themselves. You see this in a lot of so-called “immigration attorneys” (almost always female, BTW). they are fully convinced that they are acting out of compassion, not lust. You could line up their clientele and walk them through the preponderance of their “client type” (massive overrepresentation of tatted up gangers and young males with no families), and they just don’t see it. Not excusing their actions and proclivities in any way, just emphasizing the futility of discussing the phenomenon with the expectation of any real progress.

        • Aidan says:

          The sad thing about all this is how the female hindbrain hasn’t adapted to a situation where being abducted will lead to her death rather than a happy marriage and successful reproduction.

          Also hilarious that the nigger probably thought he could get away with it because he was driving his boss’ van

      • Red says:

        I’ve noticed, on the extremely rare instance I’ve actually discussed the “come get me” actions/tendencies of wahmens, even hard conservatives have a hard time agreeing with or even seeing such actions for what they are.

        Crimestop on the woman question is by far the most deeply ingrained cathedral directive.

  23. JustAnotherGuy says:

    Now California is going to have rolling blackouts, how will all the ‘nothing ever happens’ / ‘everything is going swell’ explain this stuff? They can’t send the army of engineer corps to every failing part of american infastructure to fix it like they did that one boondocks town.

    • Globalist Power Terminated II says:

      Madness of this sort (probably) can’t go on forever…

      • jim says:

        Inflation has long been massively understated in official figures, which have an increasingly absurd hedonic adjustment. It is now being ridiculously understated, with them abandoning any statistical jiggery pokery, and just lying barefaced. The decline in living standards was subtle and slow, is now obvious and massive.

    • Mike in Boston says:

      how will all the ‘nothing ever happens’ / ‘everything is going swell’ explain this stuff?</I

      The cope I expect is "Everything will be fine once we get a Republican back in the White House."™®

  24. Kunning Druegger says:

    Elections don’t matter, yes, but why would the GAE not put their thumb on the scale for this one, Jim?

  25. Kunning Druegger says:

    My wife did Super-Hots this year in the pepper garden, and that spicy bitch tried to kill me with one. Jokes on her for, after I passed out and shit myself, I awoke to a revelation. As I was paddling her mercilessly while dry heaving, it occurred to me that the devious plans of females are always missing some critical element. No matter how smart they appear, femoids always forget some crucial aspect (in my wife’s case, she forgot the fact that I am based-god of self-poisoning, and if the Chinese chemicals couldn’t take me down in my teens and twenties, a 3 million Scoville unit kill shot isn’t going to either).

    The gynocracy that runs the permanent bureaucracy in the GAE initiated a plan that had been percolating in the Academy for decades in approximately 2006: get femoids in the visual power avatar positions. They had already begun to take over the boardroom and bedroom, but dumb hoes cannot conceive of non-visual power. So while they were taking control of the merchant class leadership and permanent bureaucracy, they felt horribly diminished by not controlling presidencies, prime-ministerships, etc etc. So they hatched a bunch of conspiracies to move roasties and spinsters into positions of visual power. They wanted to be the prom queens of humanity. They used academic literature, entertainment and artistic avenues, non profits and lobbyists, literally every possible point of leverage to get vaginas in pants suits with flag lapel pins. Just as liberal America believed their own hornswoggle about Hillary being widely desired and loved, so too did they fall for their own lies about females being better CEOs and Leaders. This grand muff-spiracy went into overdrive when Hillary was sent to the spiritual kitchen to make metaphorical sandwiches for Teflon Don and the boys in 2016, and ever since, the whole of the Cathedral, the entire GAE and its tentacles, have a single aim of making women leaders in front of cameras and crowds.

    So, in summation, all of this, all the craziness we’ve been experiencing, is purely the fallout, side effects, and consequences of the devious plan to put women in visible power. That’s it. That is all. Literally nothing else, no Great Reset, no LWO, no dystopian bifurcation of 99% bugmen and 1% elites. there is no gameplan, and once Kamala ascends to the throne of the US, they will declare a week of celebration, and that will be that… of course, the whole world will gradually collapse and humanity will enter into a new dark age, but that’s none of their concern, they’ll just hire a contractor or something and head off to Cabo to celebrate. pack it up boys, shut down the site, Jim. KD has solved it all. Nothing left to do but take a few percocet, pour some scotch, and watch it all collapse. For any females reading this, this entire post is low quality sarcasm, carry on with your flawless plan.

    • Neurotoxin says:

      “My wife did Super-Hots this year in the pepper garden, and that spicy bitch tried to kill me with one. Jokes on her for, after I passed out and shit myself, I awoke to a revelation. As I was paddling her mercilessly while dry heaving…”

      I need to learn that icon where you’re laughing so hard you’re crying.

    • Neurotoxin says:

      But to address your actual point: No, there’s more than the female thing there’s also e.g. the anti-white thing.

      • Kunning Druegger says:

        No, I am utterly convinced that female miscalculation is the simplest and most complete explanation! Yeah, obviously, the whole post is silly. I actually read a few flat-earth style “panacea conspiracy” posts that attempted to tie everything together in a tidy, simple explanation involving aliens, free masons, globalists, and Jews, and I was struck by how far backward these idiots bend over to make a sloppy, complicated mess of conspiracies into a single, simple situation. Like looking for keys under a lamppost. I thought, “If you’re going to do that, just blame women. It’s way easier and far more realistic.”

    • haha no says:


    • The Cominator says:

      Putting women in charge when women are meant to serve and obey (sometimes queens do actually work but female democracy can NEVER work) explains a lot of things but 2020 showed there are also conspiracies. Whether installing women is by design and part of the conspiracy or idiocy which guarantees it will fail… I can’t tell you that.

  26. Zorost says:

    There was a large biological effect in the middle east, but it was swamped by the relatively recent Arab influx.

    Horse riding might have happened shortly after domestication. A great book on this is:

    “The Horse, the Wheel, and Language: How Bronze-Age Riders from the Eurasian Steppes Shaped the Modern World” by David W. Anthony

    It has a lot of raw data and explanations of why something should be believed, rather than conclusions.

    The Kalash people of Pakistan might be a remnant of Aryan invaders. Some interesting genetic studies have been done.

  27. simplyconnected says:

    Someone took one for the team and read Anal Schwab’s panflet.
    It’s pretty dumb, which lends credence to Edward Dowd’s speculation that Schwab, Harari etc. were always meant to be cartoon villains against which the population revolts, with the actual leaders of the NWO coming out of that revolution (I think Dowd gives them too much credit, they may just be that dumb, at least this latest crop of villains).

    • jim says:

      Rather, I think our enemies simply are pretty dumb.

      Once upon a time, clever rationalizations were needed to explain why a deer is horse, and passing as one of the faithful required a great deal of smarts.

      Now clever rationalizations are damned near impossible, and attempting them is likely to get you falsely suspected of crimethought, for example Scott Alexander. It is a lot easier to believe everything you are told to believe if you are dumb as a post.

      • The Cominator says:

        “It is a lot easier to believe everything you are told to believe if you are dumb as a post.”

        This is something that Teddy Spaghetti is generally right about, its the midwits (not the high midwits I mean the 105-115 IQ ones) who tend to be the ones willing to believe anything if authority and the people around them do.

        The downright stupid person will stubbornly maintain the sky is blue.

        • jim says:

          I talk to a few midwits. They theoretically believe the official state religion, but after a beer or two are receptive to crimethought.

          Often they react as if the crimethought was completely new to them, it had never occurred to them before, but its truth glaringly obvious.

          In a world of lies, truth serum is very useful.

          • The Cominator says:

            1) Not every midwit is a cathedral zealot but cathedral zealots are overwhelming midwits

            2) Don’t care if they can commit thoughtcrime while black out drunk if anything the fact that at some level they know its a lie even still but they still go on… that makes me hate them even more.

            • jim says:

              They don’t need to be blackout drunk. Just one or two beers to loosen their tongues. And they are good people, most of them. I am not too bad at telling who is a good person, and it is a lot easier to tell when that person has had one or two beers.

              • The Cominator says:

                Post 2020 I deny its possible to be a leftist and a good person.

                • Kunning Druegger says:

                  The majority of people “on the left” aren’t leftists. This doesn’t mean they should be spared, necessarily, but the headcount of actual leftists is objectively low. It has to be, structurally.

                • Frank says:

                  > Post 2020 I deny its possible to be a leftist and a good person.

                  Exactly right. No mercy.

                • The Cominator says:

                  Mercy to leftists is in almost all cases wrong because

                  1) They come back

                  2) They’ve hurt us all economically and in other ways and their houses etc should really go to us also if they have women them too.

                  3) Psychologically some of us need revenge.

                  Now there are perhaps some people with very rare critical talents who you have to spare but probably no more than one leftist in a hundred.

                • Globalist Power Terminated II says:

                  Mercy to leftists is in almost all cases wrong…


                  The earth shall be soaked with their blood and their women shall warm our beds.

                  So help us GNON.

          • Kunning Druegger says:

            The midwit evolves an exceptional sensitive sense of micro-breezes, and is able to detect the direction the wind is blowing quite rapidly, so rapidly that they will accommodate it minute to minute. Such that, a stalwart Cathedralite can enter a room full of based bros and, within seconds, suddenly find that they do in fact agree that something is up with women, vaxx propaganda is in fact heavy handed, and there is in fact a sinister and destructive course of action being followed. Of course, should they get out their eye magnet and be subjected to the appearance of online consensus, the weathervane wil rapidly spin, and they are off on a different track.

    • Globalist Power Terminated II says:


  28. Kunning Druegger says:

    Check out this link:

    Do we have the requisite brainpower, talent, and technology to build a “GPT-Jim” bot? What would it cost in time a nd compensation? I think the applications are obvious and many. Idea originally floated by Pax.

    • jim says:

      It is not that hard – the technology is increasingly available, but I don’t see any useful applications. Not obvious to me. What do you have in mind?

      The illusion of consciousness is fairly thin.

      A Tesla has substantially more sensory input than the human brain, and arguably has more computing power than the human brain, and the network of which it is part has enormously more computing power and data input than the human brain, yet Tesla owners perceive cats and dogs as people, while they do not perceive their Teslas as people.

  29. Karl says:

    So it is fair to say that the white race started with Thor

    Why Thor and not his father Odin?

  30. Frank says:

    [*post restored, despite looking very like a fedpost. Maybe shills have been given a longer leash, so that they can pass the shill test, or maybe Frank is the real thing.*]

    “@Wulfgar I think the order to disarm the public will go out before the death squads. Failure to disarm the public will result in a lot of dead enforces no matter how large of an army of IRS thugs they hire.”

    Who is going to “disarm the public”? The cops who hid under their beds when Antifa and BLM destroyed city after city? The faggots in the FBI, who sent 20 fat clowns in body armor to arrest senior citizens like Roger Stone and Peter Navarro?

    You guys spend half your time making fun of Shaniqua and the other half of your time making Shaniqua sound invincible. Very strange.

    • jim says:

      I will allow your comment through if you pass the shill test.

      Say something that cannot be said from an FBI office with your supervisor checking contents.

      • Frank says:

        [*Total fail at passing shill test*].

        • jim says:

          That almost word for word my parody of a shill trying to sound like one of us while avoiding any forbidden thoughts, and refusing to notice our forbidden thoughts.

          Tell us what problems do black people, gays, and trannies cause?

          What has Soros been doing?

          • Pax Imperialis says:

            Off-topic, but detranstion videos are horrifying and increasing in numbers. Considering what has been happening to extremely young children, we will be seeing these types of videos pop up for decades to come.


            • Kunning Druegger says:

              As detransition [sic] becomes a thing, you see, and will continue to see, the polite conservatives reach out to, feel bad for, and pray for/with these specimens that have “seen the light.” This is compassion fucking with their heads.

              Once you go a certain distance down some paths, you don’t get to walk back. You can divert yourself, crash through the morass and hope you find a different path (this is what God did for me, btw; he lead me to a new path, one where none of my past mistakes magically disappeared, but whereupon I get the opportunity to live differently), you can sit down and weep and wait to die, or you can double down and speed along the path to perdition even faster.

              For the foolish/disgusting/blasphemous “people” that have physically carved away their humanity, or chemically altered their souls permanently, there is no earthly way to become whole again. It is not going to happen. it doesn’t matter if they were children, too young to understand. It doesn’t matter if they were women, to simple and selfish to realize the stakes. In this life, some things are unforgiveable, by yourself or others or Nature, and if we say Nature and are correct, we must also mean Nature’s God. God will do what he can and will do, and nothing in heaven or on earth, in this life or the next, is above God, so attempting to set constraints on God from our position, even if we can deduce that constraints may exist, is an evil fool’s errand.

              You can see what I mean in the video linked, or in that blog Jim had a few months back about that damnfool “girl.” These creatures are little more than status/popularity antennas, with the gain set way to high, so they are dangerously sensitive to whatever signal they fall in the way of. That crying freak, no matter how emotional the context is, no matter how serious the situation, is still positioning itself in the social hierarchy.

              “Listen up, y’all: a *detrans woman* is about to speak, so check your intact genital and unfragmented mind privilege, because I am just as needy, bossy, motivated to talk while incapable of listening, and I crave attention and praise for my latest antics.”

              That is all I get from these types. Yes, there’s good data for figuring out where to mail the execution summons in a coup-complete world, but what do these ruined people really have to offer anyone? As someone who did irrevocable damage to themselves, avoid people like that. Some, like myself *I hope and pray* have found a different path, and are actively working to be an entity apart from what they were, but it isn’t simple or easy, and to be painfully honest, I am pretty sure it’s never going to happen, not completely. The only time you let someone who has significantly damaged themselves get close to you is if they have something you cannot obtain elsewhere, or if it is readily obvious that they are actively working at being a wholly different person, and the fruits of that struggle are numerous and obvious.

              Sorry Shirley, I mean Steven, I mean Shirley: you’re still an attention seeking whore who was too ugly to be an actual whore. Just because Matt Walsh made you look silly on the internet doesn’t mean you spitting in God’s face and calling Nature fake can just be “moved on from.”

              • Globalist Power Terminated II says:

                Come time for the Restoration, whores will be auctioned off naked and/or in chains like farm animals — and will benefit greatly being treated as such.

                • Mayflower Sperg says:

                  That de-tranner in the YouTube video won’t be getting any bids. What are you going to do with her?

                • Wulfgar Thundercock III says:

                  A nunnery or a monastery. The auction is for whores so they do not do this shit, not for the poor degenerates that already have.

                • Kunning Druegger says:

                  Yeah, post-op has bought and paid for their ticket, there’s no breaks or returns on that ride. It is heart-breaking in the extreme, particularly for the children gelded and ruined at the behest of demon possessed scum and evil parents, but some forms of evil cannot be undone, only extinguished. There must be a path to salvation (I am not speaking theologically, I don’t have that capacity) from types of damnation. It’s like proximity to a volcano; past a certain threshold, there is no escape.

                  Dear Lord, Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner.

                • jim says:

                  Yes, that poor girl has to acknowledge her complicity in what was done to her, and her evil motives in allowing it to be done, repent of her sins, and accept the dreadful consequences as merited punishment. She wanted to be popular, and everyone told her that transitioning was way cool.

                  They appealed to her wicked motives. As a tranny, she got the privilege of social superweapons with which to terrorize those around her, and discovered that being able to terrorize is not actually all that great, that being able to make everyone around you responsible for your unhappiness is not going to make you happy.

                  What makes trannies seem cool and high status to naive children is the social superweapons, and desire for social superweapons is evil, and those that possess them use them for evil.

                • Globalist Power Terminated II says:

                  That de-tranner in the YouTube video won’t be getting any bids. What are you going to do with her?

                  A life in a convent is an acceptable and dignified option for repentant women, as Wulfgar and Jim said, but for unrepentant women however…

                  …I heard that the war in Ukraine has caused some supply chain issues with fertilizer.

              • Neurotoxin says:

                “it doesn’t matter if they were children, too young to understand.”

                I can’t agree with this, if what you’re saying is “They deserve to be punished.”

                I agree if what you’re saying is, “We can’t treat them socially as if they were normal people.” In that case the point is indeed obvious. Like, “You may have caught leprosy/ the bubonic plague/ whatever through no fault of your own, but that doesn’t mean I’m going to invite you to my house for dinner.”

                • Kunning Druegger says:

                  For me, this falls into the nebulous territory of Human Shields and Collateral Damage. No one with a healthy soul relishes in innocents suffering for reasons outside their understanding or control. But due to the nature of modern conflict, tactics, and strategy, every war will generate terribly unfair and heart breaking situations. the fucking monsters foisting this evil on children and stupid people are ultimately to blame, but it won’t be enough to declare them guilty and leave it at that. The defiled and ruined human in that video is actually, categorically, less-than-human, and they did this to themselves. Were they ready to make such a decision? Were they fully formed mentally and informed intellectually? Are they responsible for their actions? These are relevant and important questions for wiser men than myself, deep questions that will take much time and consideration to answer. But there is a competing necessity to deal with such individuals in the moment. people like that ruined women are a cancer on society, both when they made the decision to carve away their humanity for popularity and acceptance, and when they realized the damage that they’ve done. Listen to how she talks about herself; yes, she’s realized what a terrible mistake she made, but the underlying sickness is still there: the desperate need for attention and relevance. We saw this as well in that longform substack from that girl that de-transitioned before a surgeon got to her. She felt boring and unnoticed, so she found a community willing to validate her with attention and praise if she conformed to a model. Now, she is seeking validation through attention from a different community. the sickness here is not trannie surgery or sexual perversion, those are the symptoms. they are more extreme than other symptoms, incurable and untreatable in my opinion, but the underlying sickness remains. We must make women property again. When I hear a Detrans say that, I’ll believe they are reachable and curable. But I am fairly convinced “she” (both women, actually) are just as virulently “strong and independent” as any other femoid foot soldier of the Cathedral. They were, and remain, carriers of a destructive mind virus that contributes to the dismantling of civilization, and their newfound sense of importance as “survivors” will only contribute to that virulence. This sucks, and I don’t like it. Because of my own life trajectory, I must believe that, if there is a path back to wholeness, or some sense of whole, that we must strive to walk it. If there’s is no path… what good is it to pretend?

                  For those who don’t get mangled by surgery, there’s definitely a path back towards wholeness. For those mutilated, what path is there, and does it matter if they were gelded because of others, or themselves?

                • The Cominator says:

                  If their parents etc did it to them despite them fighting against it I feel bad for them… if they participated themselves in any way… no pity.

          • Frank says:

            Niggers, because of their low IQs and lack of impulse control, are the prime source of dysfunction wherever you find them. Every criminal nigger should be executed and the rest should be sterilized.

            Gays are repulsive disease-spreaders with no shame and no sense of self-control. They should be rounded up and exterminated.

            Trannies are confused gays and should get the same treatment.

          • Upravda says:

            Sometimes, it might be cool to actually let some shill comment be displayed, just to remember how do those look like.

            Or, even better, to make an entire blog-post about failing shill-tests, just to have nice cheat-sheet under one link. 🙂

            While I doubt that some higher-up is actually checking all that shill content here or on the other sites, it is amusing to see… deepness of modernist/ progressivist/ leftist brainwashing. The self-censure those brainwashed people are able to inflict on themselves even when nobody is watching.

            By the way, your tests are quite effective outside of anglosphere, especially demon-worshiping and WQ test. Less so tests about Soros and such, but never mind.

    • jim says:

      > Who is going to “disarm the public”? The cops who hid under their beds when Antifa and BLM destroyed city after city?

      They did not hide under their beds. They came out in considerable force to protects Antifa and BLM from being wiped out in fifteen minutes.

      BLM and Antifa are only possible because of massive police protection and massive state funding. They are total and blatant astroturf. The Chinese Communist party demonstrations are more credible, without the party even trying very hard to be convincing.

      I figured you for a shill because you are assuming the fake consensus that Antifa and BLM are the real thing, when everyone, including most normies, knows that they are astroturf. But maybe you are a dupe of shills. I get a few of those, and always mistake them for shills, because they are massively outnumbered by shills.

      • Kunning Druegger says:

        Actual conservatives are waking up to the reality of the enforcement arm of the Cathedral. Before the convergence was complete, the police and military were viable ways to oppose Degeneracy Inc, as many Sheriffs acrually did let their troops stomp actual criminal scum. Now that every PD is converged and most SDs are emasculated, they will need detox and rehab from “backing the blue.” I have been experimenting with this using your position (police enable riots and protect Antifa/BLM), and it is a terribly jagged and bitter pill for them to swallow, but when you walk them through the logic (roof Korean mythos, what shop owners can and will do, etc), they actually pick it up quickly. As the raids, apprehensions, and gun seizures escalate, it will become more common to see normiecons lashing out at blind police support.

      • Frank says:

        > They did not hide under their beds. They came out in considerable force to protects Antifa and BLM from being wiped out in fifteen minutes.

        “Wiped out” by whom? Almost all Antifa and BLM riots were in far-left shitlib cities where they have few opponents, let alone armed opponents. There’s a reason Antifa and BLM didn’t take their act to the suburbs. They’d get slaughtered in the suburbs, and they know it.

        > I figured you for a shill because you are assuming the fake consensus that Antifa and BLM are the real thing,

        Nonsense. Antifa and BLM are a bunch of low-IQ mutants and subhumans who obviously depend on Soros funding and Soros prosecutors, but they only have Soros prosecutors in the shitlib cities. If Antifa or BLM rolled into Grady Judd’s county in Florida or a hundred other places with right-wing sheriffs and DAs, they’d get slaughtered and the people who slaughter them would be considered heroes.

        Again, you guys can’t have it both ways. Don’t tell me Shaniqua is a joke but also tell me we can’t possibly defeat Shaniqua.

        • jim says:

          > > Police did not hide under their beds. They came out in considerable force to protects Antifa and BLM from being wiped out in fifteen minutes.

          > “Wiped out” by whom? Almost all Antifa and BLM riots were in far-left shitlib cities where they have few opponents,

          There are ample opponents to having their businesses burned and their homes vandalized in shitlib cities, it is just that they are terrorized by an ever more dangerous and criminal state security apparatus.

          > but they only have Soros prosecutors in the shitlib cities

          Kenosha is a shitlib city? It is small town America. Yet antifa confidently attempted murder on video, rightly believing that they could never be prosecuted anywhere ever.

          • Wulfgar Thundercock III says:

            Which assumption was proved correct when they did not prosecute Grosskreutz for illegal possession of a firearm by a felon. Something that would earn me a SWAT/ATF raid and my dog shot got him favorable press tours and celebrity leftist status.

          • Frank says:

            [*deleted for unsupported confidence*]

            • jim says:

              Kenosha is a swing area,

              that has mostly elected Democrats, but was recorded as voting for Trump in 2020, and recently elected Republicans to key offices. Absolutely average small town America. If you want to argue differently, you need something more than confident assertion.

              • Frank says:


                • jim says:

                  I linked to a political survey, which reports “marginally democratic”. Antifa and selective prosecution was enabled by state power, not by political support and lack of will to resist among the public. State power, as we are now seeing, that the mainstream Republican Rino Republican party has no will or capability to resist. The protesters appear to have been bussed in, in that none of Kyle’s assailants have local kin, and none of them reported a local residence. Like all antifa operations looks astroturfed.

        • Kunning Druegger says:

          This post is all the proof needed to show that we have many miles to go before even enthusiastic conservatives start to wake up to the cold, hard reality of how bad it has gotten. The only consolation is that the rot, stupidity, and ignorance is ubiquitous.

        • Nikolai says:

          I’ve been seeing countless takes like this on Twitter lately and I can’t tell if it’s a coordinated op or if ruralites genuinely misunderstand power dynamics this badly.

          The 2020 riots literally started in the suburbs with Ahmaud Arberry and the 3 men who rightfully killed him are doing life behind bars. Antifa and BLM mainly operate in cities but they’ve done the same in the suburbs and they do so with impunity. Jonathan Pentland is another example. It doesn’t matter where you are, Cathedral operatives are above the law.

          • Kunning Druegger says:

            Correct me if I am wrong, but the pattern appears to be some “””heinous and racist crime””” occurs in a blue zone that just happens to be a place where Obama phones are very prevalent, a mob forms incredibly quickly with signs and slogans already crafted and penned, the footage goes viral, Mainstream Media picks up the story and goes to wall-to-wall coverage, then “spontaneous” outbreaks of “mostly peaceful and barely even fiery protests with bricks” occur, then it spreads to dense suburbs with high numbers of blacks or no real boundaries between urban density and suburban sprawl.

            Even when the spotlighted incident occurs in a suburb, the protests start in cities IIRC. Whatever the case, whatever details I have misconstrued or gotten wrong, I distinctly remember noticing a formula. I think this will happen again, but not while Democrats are “in control” of the executive, or are transitioning out. The race kerfuffles are a tool for intimidating whites, redistributing wealth and “housing,” and punishing moderate liberals for insufficient holiness. This may be incorrect, or out of date, or unlikely going forward, as the unrest manufacturing apparatus is barely restrained by the DNC controllers. We may see a new iteration with suburbs being the focus. There is also the slight possibility that the corona overreach and the clumsy war drum routine has significantly altered the temperament of the do-nothing conservative plurality. This may be excessively optimistic, but I could see an orchestrated outbreak of “spontaneous protesting” snowballing into an actual civil unrest scenario.

            • Nikolai says:

              “occurs in a blue zone”

              Usually but not always. Trump won 60+% of the vote in the county where Arbery was killed.

              “I think this will happen again, but not while Democrats are “in control” of the executive”

              Why wouldn’t it? Trayvon and Ferguson happened when Obama was president. Other than that, generally agree.

    • Pete says:

      The cops stood down for antifa because they were ordered to stand down.

      They will come and take your guns, arrest or kill you when they are ordered to do so.

      • Frank says:

        You’re crazy. The average American big-city cop is a fat 5’6″ pussy — and those are the male cops.

        Meanwhile, the overwhelming majority of patriots are in the suburbs and rural areas, where the police are overwhelmingly right-wing. The idea that suburban police forces are going to go door to door collecting guns from their friends and neighbors is utter lunacy.

        • jim says:

          If they will not, the IRS or the ATF will.

          Civil war may well ensue, but to win it, we will need a CEO, a Commander in Chief, a King.

          • The Cominator says:

            I tend to agree that gun confiscation in at least some parts of the country will be very difficult for them.

            The cops are mindlessly obedient so they’ll initially try to enforce the rule but after a bunch of them get shot and most people say sorry I lost my gun in a boating accident… I think the cops will start spending gun confiscation shifts at the donut shop. The feds are going to be more zealous but they are cowards as well so the FBI/ATF etc are going to give up too once the body count starts rising.

            The marines would have the guts to do it but marines (soldiers in general) are not so mindlessly obedient as cops and the non coms and juniour officers are generally very sympathetic to us.

            • Wulfgar Thundercock III says:

              The military, or at least large parts of it, are not going to be on our side. The men that would have been on our side are not enlisting anymore, which is why all branches are having such a problem making recruitment numbers. the military is being hollowed out, but what remains will be against us.

              • Frank says:

                > the military is being hollowed out, but what remains will be against us.

                The vast majority of the military are useless administrator types, not door-kickers and trigger-pullers. The overwhelming majority of competent trigger-pullers remain on our side.

                The idea that chubby GI Janes are going to go door to door confiscating ~350,000,000 firearms is utterly stupid.

                • jim says:

                  First, they make sure all weapons are registered. Then they call them in. They don’t intend to do door to door searches. That will not get all weapons, or even most of them, but every white who has a weapon will be a criminal.

                • Kunning Druegger says:

                  Equally stupid is the idea that all 350million weapons will be wielded against Them. You are committing the same stupidity of which you accuse us. How many Americans are “useless administrator types, not door-kickers and trigger-pullers”? Further, your assertion that “The overwhelming majority of competent trigger-pullers remain on our side” is a pet belief, a sacred cow of the Right, and I have serious doubts that it is true. The German Government just recently made assurance is to its security forces that they will most definitely not be having a cold winter.

                  There’s a lot of moving parts in this distributed situation. Our adversaries are largely incompetent, yes, but they have inertia and the elusive promise of “return to normalcy” on their side. By transmitting a blended message of “these guys are pure evil, arrest them!” and “we know it’s distasteful, but it’s very necessary to save America!” they will be able to bamboozle many of the tip-of-spear types, who are not really known or selected for their ability or tendency to think deeper about orders given.

            • The Cominator says:

              Hmmmm but that begs the question if the old military is truly dead they may not be any guttsier about gun confiscation than the cops.

            • Kunning Druegger says:

              There are 10 private security officers for every 1 police officer in the US as of 2020. They are a motley assortment of corpulent do-nothings all the way to hardcore SOF types. Make of that what you will. Contractors do all the jobs that matter, and gun confiscation will be no different. I have yet to meet a female bureaucrat that accepts the answer “no” or “it is impossible.”

              • Red says:

                Will those private security officers die for their pay check? When gun confiscation start then death camps are not far behind and men of good will know it. There may not be a lot of takers for those sort of raids.

        • JJ says:


        • Your Uncle Bob says:

          If he’s not a shill on payroll he’s at least a smarter, self-directed shill. Off the bat, irrational aggression designed to elicit either pushback and engagement, OR aggravate you and push you off your own side’s platform. He glows.

          But taking it at face value – cops won’t enforce red flag orders? They already do. Cops won’t 3 am no-knock raid suspects who own guns, whether the crime is real, white collar, or made up entirely? They already do. Cops won’t swallow their principles and think of their pension, plus the immediate paycut they’ll take if they go private sector (city police make three times the average income where I’m at, before any overtime or private security gigs)? They already do.

          I don’t expect same day, door to door gun confiscations for quite some time, and I’m a pessimist on some things. But… they don’t need it. Red flag laws have been expanded recently, and will be expanded further. Boomer-tier social media posts are already enough to get your guns confiscated. Degree-of-separation from anyone accused of right wing extremism will be the next step. A divorce, a domestic disturbance call either well intentioned or made up out of malice, a call to CPS either well intentioned or made up out of malice, have long been enough to get you raided and your guns taken, and that’s on purpose, and the list will only be expanded. They take every one they can get one at a time, and boomers and normiecons never think they’ll be next, and even the few on our side who get it realize it’s never go time for just one house.

          • Kunning Druegger says:

            This. It will be a “secondary” enforcement action, portrayed as an unintended consequence.

            “Well, we were serving a warrant for [widely considered bad thing] and due to the circumstances, for the safety of everyone involved, we confiscated any guns in the house.”

            “You wouldn’t want a criminal to be armed, would you?”

            “Calm down sir. We received an anonymous tip that there was some disturbance going on. You don’t mind if we take a look around right? Are there any firearms in the house?”

            “For the safety of the [children/battered wife/Roborovski Hamster] residing in the domicile, we collected the dangerous firearms.”

            Probable Cause and Reasonable Suspicion are whatever the officer says they are, as that will be decided ex post facto at the court date. Any weapons collected will be sent off into the red tape abyss. Well over half the females in this country will blindly support a full on national gun grab with the minimum amount of footage/reporting of a gun accident or use. This kills me to say it, as I was one here who advocated pretty hard for LEOs on multiple occasions, but the whole sheepdog community, like the GWoT veterans, are useful idiots for the Cathedral at this point. I’m starting to doubt even Sherriff’s Deputies will think twice if rape, molestation, or pedophilia assertions are attached to the suspect.

            • Red says:

              This kills me to say it, as I was one here who advocated pretty hard for LEOs on multiple occasions, but the whole sheepdog community, like the GWoT veterans, are useful idiots for the Cathedral at this point. I’m starting to doubt even Sherriff’s Deputies will think twice if rape, molestation, or pedophilia assertions are attached to the suspect.

              BLM was mostly about replacing good virtuous cops with commie cops and ass kissers who will do anything for that pay check. With the military I think the rot is almost total but it’s harder to tell what’s going on with local cops.

          • Frank says:

            > But taking it at face value – cops won’t enforce red flag orders? They already do.

            There’s a big difference between some cops going to get a couple guns from a guy who just got caught smacking his girlfriend around and cops going door to door collecting ~350,000,000 firearms from right-wingers.

            Let’s not be retards here.

            • jim says:

              It will very likely not succeed, but the attempt is going to be unpleasant and get a whole lot of people killed.

              • Cloudswrest says:

                As usual with these situations, they don’t do a global “round up”. They just do opportunistic enforcements as they are encountered, as well as targeted enforcement towards specific individuals. Also all above ground legitimate sales and distribution are eliminated. Black markets are created which lead to more corruption.

    • Anonymous Fake says:

      What happens is that anyone who uses a gun for any reason gets the book thrown at him in the court system. [More official lies of the same sort, only allowing one through because too tedious and wastes too much space to respond them all]

      • jim says:

        So how come all the people attempting to kill Kyle with an illegal gun were piously ignored?

        How come the government is heavily involved in gun running to black and hispanic gangs?

        They want blacks and browns armed so that they kill white people, and white people disarmed so that they can be killed. Black and brown gun crimes get a slap on the wrist.

        José Inez García Zárate came to San Francisco illegally, lived on crime and welfare, murdered a white girl for the hell of it with an illegal gun, and was not only absurdly acquitted for murdering a white girl on the basis that she was white and he is brown, but also was never prosecuted for possession of a stolen gun.

        • A2 says:

          That was simply infuriating. If memory serves, there were some shots right after the verdict of the jurors exiting the building with smirks on their faces. Also, the murderer had been deported multiple times before. The cleansing fire can’t come soon enough.

        • Anonymous Fake says:

          [deleted for confidently reporting leftist factiods unchecked.]

          • jim says:

            Do a little homework before telling us what the loudspeaker is saying. We already know what the loudspeaker is saying.

  31. Dr. Faust says:

    “MSNBC Declares All Republicans “Evil” And A “Threat To Democracy”; Pundit Says “We Are At War”

    This isn’t persuading any independent voters to their cause. Anyone still undecided is stuck in a normalcy bias, most likely some aging boomer or Xer. They’re not believing the idea that republicans are any more evil than they’ve ever been. They’ll believe a lot of nonsense that gets said by the media but not if it ventures too far from the norms they adjusted to in the 70s. In that regard it’s not helping democrats in the midterm, likely the opposite. Elections are moot, will be rigged if important. Yet the midterm election presents a problem of scale that I don’t think they can overcome. So the rant is counterproductive for campaigning.

    After 2020 election I began to lean more into Moldbugs theory of the slow drift hellscape but each new act of the left is more audacious than the last. And I think it’s by intention or escalation of their nature we could be nearing the event horizon of the leftist spiral. The dam bursts a crack at a time and then all at once. Let’s hope things get really interesting.

    • Kunning Druegger says:

      Here’s the MacIntyre livestream that discusses the Dark Brandon Speech in depth. I think they hit a lot of interesting points, even if the proffered analysis is still mired in normalcy bias on some levels. Red, and anyone else flabbergasted at the state and disposition of the Sheepdog Class, I draw your attention to the stream participant American Ostrakon. AO has a history of valuable insight, life experience as a soldier and a contractor (purportedly), and seems to be fairly familiar with martial things. Listen to his befuddlement at what is going on. He cannot properly internalize what’s right in front of him, and is stuck in a loop, asking the same question over and over again. This is a window into the Sheepdog mindset. AO has MacIntyre to guide him, explain things to him, and gently correct his delusions and misperceptions, while the vast majority of cops, soldiers, and agents do not. One thing that is paramount in the armed services, as in jobs where you are armed, is that you cannot allow indecision to get into your OODA loop. It is better to make the wrong decision quickly than the right decision too late. While this is logical and reasonable, it is an exploit in the sheepdog brain; if you align the circumstances properly, you can get Mr. -dog to gloss over details, ignore evidence, or disregard obvious deer and just act like it’s a horse, all so the OODA loop is protected.

  32. chris says:

    So I found another version of Biden’s recent speech with the red lighting and podium.

    • Dr. Faust says:

      Move and countermove. Prediction and analysis. I’m divided on these people. A part of me just wants to know WTF are they thinking. Curiosity. The other part just wants to know how to defeat them.

      What I know is that this is a powerful image, a perfect meme, instantly relatable in tone and symbol. In many ways the speech is calming to me.

      A few years ago two men broke into my apartment while I was there. With a great sense of terrible timing the two picked the lock of my front door while I was just finishing a shower. I was draped only in a towel when I heard the door open and my heart began pounding and I grew fearful. When I entered the main room and saw the two standing there I felt only a fire build in my chest and as vulnerable and outnumbered as I was I committed totally to a fight. Neither of the intruders seemed interested in fighting a half-naked guy and tumbled over each other to flee.

      • Neurotoxin says:


        • Dr. Faust says:

          I’ve found this youtube channel to be informative. Please watch some videos and give your opinion if you have the time.

          • Kunning Druegger says:

            On a cursory glane through, it seems very similar to these guys:

            Honestly, there’s a significant but small amount of info that can be conveyed through YouTube video format regarding guns. Basics, talk through/walk through, and learning jargon and terminology so you are empowered to ask good questions in an actual class. They also highlight various products, brands, and people/entities worth looking into. And that’s it. Anything more is superfluous. And they all do the same videos, basically. The gun companies keep a list of the most eyeballs-attached channels, and they send their products to them for “testing,” which is just free marketing. Paul Harrell, Gun Jesus, and Garand Thumb are the only ones even slightly entertaining IMO.

            Another thing to watch for is who they associate with. Anyone that has maintained ties with Black Rifle Coffee Company should be shunned and ignored, for instance. The videos with guns are really only useful in piquing interest and introducing topics. The next step is to find a based local gun shop, shooters club, or training shop. Obviously, I am an opinionated faggot, so take advice with salt.

            I forgot to mention: Warrior Poet Society. Their products are over priced but purportedly high quality. Their free videos are no different than the rest of training GunTube. They have a “+” service ( that I found interesting but not noteworthy. I mention them because John Lovell is an explicit Christian who puts faith and ideology first in all he does, and for this he is mocked and shunned by the rest of GunTube. If/when Christian Nationalism becomes “a thing,” he and his organization will most likely be there. He is RPWQ and GNON compliant.

            • Wulfgar Thundercock III says:

              Anyone too close to the bro-vet community should be avoided, too. Dakota Meyer was attacking people for wearing military-style equipment to train, as if only a military contract gives you the right to defend yourself. Tim Kennedy is another loud voice that is soft on the individual right to arm themselves and defend their communities. Grand Thumb came out to defend the people training and told them to wear their kit when practicing, so he knows where his loyalties lie.

              There are good and bad youtubers, but I would not worry too much about someone’s politics if they give good advice. Focus more on analysis of shooting and firearms more than anything else. The fun videos with lots of shooting and not much information are a waste of time. Watch reviews for any weapon you want to buy before you drop hundreds of dollars on a lemon or when you could have gotten a similar gun for much cheaper.

      • jim says:

        They were unarmed, and intended a cold burglary. When the plan went astray, they withdrew swiftly. Against a hot burglar, you would have had a bigger problem.

    • Neurotoxin says:

      Dark Brandon:

      “Every single MAGA, including your friend Obi-Wan Trump-obi, is now an enemy of the Republic.”

    • Contaminated NEET says:

      Brandon Lives!
      Peace through Pronouns!

      Is it bad that I can feel the pull of the propaganda, or is it good that a low-budget 90s cutscene is more inspiring than Biden’s actual call to arms speech?

  33. Kunning Druegger says:

    Here’s a DS post that contains an interview of Andrew Tate by Tucker Carlson. I will do a review of the interview and some observations after I finish watching, just wanted to link here if people would prefer to make their own minds up without some midwit holding forth on the subject and man:

    • alf says:

      I get much grifter vibes. Like if Dan Bilzerian got really into the manosphere.

      • Kunning Druegger says:

        I don’t want to fight in front of the kids, but I disagree. Rather, if he’s grifting, he’s using GNON compliant memes to do it. So while I won’t be subscribing to take his Game courses, I am quite pleased to see the type and amount of positive response he’s getting. It further confirms Jim’s thesis: whoever offers real patriarchy will be given an army in return.

        • Red says:

          Rather, if he’s grifting, he’s using GNON compliant memes to do it.

          Like what? I watched about 2 minutes of the video and I got nothing but grifter vibes.

          I can’t sit through a 30 minute slow ass video looking for something good. So what’s the good stuff?

          • Kunning Druegger says:

            I am not finished going through that particular one, will do a review ASAP. For what it is worth, I have watched an inordinate amount of his short clips. They popped up in my feed awhile back, and some of his comments piqued my interest. So I watched a bunch, and I kept trying to figure out the angle. He apparently has some “school of Game” type deal to divert beta bucks from OnlyFans type dudes (which is probably the most valuable thing to come out of Game Lite), and I think that is the grift. But he is using Red Pill on Women 101 to sell it, and it works quite well, as it is the Truth beneath the silence that all men know and feel regarding the way society is oriented to indulge female whore nature and protect them from consequences.

            • Red says:

              Just post the clips you’re talking about.

              • Kunning Druegger says:

                I didn’t save them. YouTube Shorts is a weird algo. It offers up things, and if you watch the whole thing, it shunts more into your eye magnet. When I started watching them, I was in no way prepared to do a deep dive, I was just laying in bed trying to fall asleep. I am going to go through that video and find timestamps, and I will dig up some clips for y’all niggas, but I am really not looking forward to the process, and I bet a lot of it has been removed (this was a few weeks ago). I posted other comments about Tate, there’s some more info there, too.

        • alf says:

          I don’t want to fight in front of the kids,

          LET THEM WATCH *breaks plate*

          In all seriousness, if he is grifting while selling the truth, why not. But the first clip I saw was him bragging about his harem of girlfriends. Sounded to me like the typical fantasy sale to young men.

          • Wulfgar Thundercock III says:

            I had a similar experience of him being algorithmically hurled in my face, and he does talk about some serious red pill stuff. Stuff like women are prettier when they are younger, that a man should be in charge, that women are too irresponsible to run their own lives and that men need to save them from themselves, and other stuff along those lines. He also talked about what a shitshow western governance has become and was talking about anarcho-tyranny. I got the sense that it was not so much that he knew the concept, but he was describing the effects.

            He is a kickboxer, a pimp, a casino runner, and he seems connected to at least some Eastern European mobs. He is not a good man, but he is manly and he does accurately describe women and encourages men to be loyal to their friends. He passes the woman test with flying colors multiple times, so I am almost certain he is not an op. Unless a faction of the Cathedral decided that it is the 1930s all over again and they need some manly men for a war.

            • notglowing says:

              I agree with everything you said. It wasn’t really the algorithm by the way, at least not entirely. He had his followers compete to make clips of him and spam all social media a few months ago.

              So it would come from tons of accounts, and it was often boosted by other followers of his. For a while the most common comment under his videos was a sort of running joke, people would post “I see this guy more than my dad”. It was a good viral marketing campaign for his “Hustlers University”.

              I do think he is a grifter. But a grifter and a shill are not the same thing. I think he is relatively red pilled on women at an intuitive level and a manly man. But he doesn’t articulate things the way we would here. He reels in young men with redpilled ideas and sells them questionable courses online.

              Still his influence has been great, he introduced plenty of gen z boys to ideas adjacent to reactionary views on women.

              • Wulfgar Thundercock III says:

                He is basically indistinguishable from Heartiste. His only real differences from NRx are the conclusions he draws because he sees the current system as a given. He recognizes defect-defect but his approach is to defect faster and harder instead of pursuing cooperate-cooperate be siezing a woman as his own. However, he does attack the foundations of the progressive attitude on women and has a bad habit of noticing bad political behavior. Probably why they got together to ban him across the internet.

                • The Cominator says:

                  “He is basically indistinguishable from Heartiste. His only real differences from NRx are the conclusions he draws because he sees the current system as a given.”

                  The current system is a given until it isn’t.

              • jim says:

                Grifters are not necessarily shills.

                Though there is massive overlap, and grifters hire shills. But a shill shilling for a grifter is only a minor irritation, while a shill shill shilling for the state is a threat to your life and liberty.

          • Wulfgar Thundercock III says:

            With his success and his profession, and given the areas where he frequents, him not having a harem would be more suspicious. His pitch is that you have to be the kind of man women want to fuck if you want to get laid, so the harem is saying, “Women want to fuck me, so I know what I am talking about.” You would not take advice on how to get laid from someone with no bitches, after all.

            • alf says:

              Fair points. If he consistently speaks the red pill, not the purple pill, then that is impressive indeed.

            • Dr. Faust says:

              I definitely agree with the idea but it’s not an absolute. I think of Freddie Roach who was a terrible boxer but one of its greatest coaches.

              Tate is into guns and cars so we’d definitely have common ground. His thoughts on women are exact. He is quoted saying ‘women are property.’ Which is a succinct nrx expression. He hit a big audience as well and the cathedral hate and fear him so he did something right.

              His classes are pure grift. He’s not making anyone rich but himself. He’s not aligned with the alt right and neither should he be. He’s also muslim which is probably what gives him the balls to speak bad thought.

              • alf says:

                Is he really muslim? A superficial search tells me he is orthodox Christian, though heavily flirting with islam.

                At any rate, have to give it to the guy — he knows whats up.

                • Dr. Faust says:

                  Maybe he isn’t but he uses halal and haram in interviews so I just assumed he was.

                • Kunning Druegger says:

                  I actually do that IRL. I didn’t realize I was being a cool guy, I just really enjoyed the Islam Is Right About Women era. Also, Halal and Haram are actually quite linguistically useful.

                • Pax Imperialis says:

                  Generational thing. Halal and haram is being used by the young adults and kids. Same with Deus Vult.

              • Wulfgar Thundercock III says:

                It does not matter one bit to me if he makes himself rich by chipping away at the foundations of the Cathedral. More power to him.

  34. Leon says:

    The fake pope just dissolved the leadership of the Knights of Malta to make it more “democratic.” No longer is noble blood a necessity.

    • Meat Guy says:

      Pope isn’t fake. Doctrine of universal and peaceful acceptance ensure that he’s the real pope. But yeah, gay.

      • The Cominator says:

        The papacy is fake and always has been, since the 1050s they’ve been the heretic bishops of Rome.

  35. Wulfgar Thundercock III says:

    If I write up a decent sized post or series of posts on firearms buying and training, how many of you would be interested in reading it? Jim, would you promote to a post if decent, rather it stay in the comments, or not interested? How many of you are familiar with firearms, and to what extent? Do I need to go over the basics in detail, or do I start from an assumption that you all have basic competencies down and cover the intermediate levels?

    • jim says:

      Well, what is your level of expertise, your credentials?

      If you have shot off a whole lot of ammo from a whole lot of guns, and can very quickly bring the gun on target and hit the target, that is a pretty good credential.

      In which case I would love to have that content as a blog post.

      • C4ssidy says:

        When i shot guns, it seemed to be very muscle memory based, the procedures and the maintenance and so on, like a crafting skill . Movements of the hands. My memories are now faded, but being muscle memory would expect to pick things up again fast. I think that all such crafting skills need high resolution well-lit video on a clear white background with all the usual E-celeb crap cut out. It would be a lot of work

        • Wulfgar Thundercock III says:

          I do not think you can learn shooting by video. You have to do. You can add on to existing skill by watching someone work and copying what they do, but you have to have a basis to start from.

          • Kunning Druegger says:

            Agree, and I will add that I personally need immense amounts of repetition. Just going through it over and over with snap caps mixed into your mags for simulated malfunctions. They are too pricey for me, but getting a blue gun* is honestly a great way to safely practice drawing and re-holstering. I have heard some folks go as far as getting an airsoft with gas blowback as well, but I think Paul Harrell had better advice: find a fully operable .22 version of your gun to practice with. Lot’s of roads to proficiency, and not one of them goes through celebrity GunTuber Land.


            • jim says:

              > find a fully operable .22 version of your gun to practice with.

              As I keep repeating, empirical observation of shootouts indicates that the man with .22 had the most satisfactory outcomes. I conjecture that is because that is what people practice with.

              But you do not want to practice with airsoft. You should practice with the gun with minimal noise and recoil and minimal cost of shooting that can nonetheless still kill people.

              Buy a gun for practicing shooting with. Don’t buy a gun and put in the gun rack to look cool and be ready for emergencies. Because if you do that, when emergency comes, you will not be ready.

              • Wulfgar Thundercock III says:

                A gun you do not shoot is a gun that should be sold to buy a gun you will actually use. Only once you can afford multiple guns and practice with them can you afford to keep a safe queen or a range gun.

      • Kunning Drueger says:

        Jim, that’s an ok standard I guess, but it makes me “well credentialed” lol. I’ve taught basic firearms familiarization courses and been in a bunch more advanced classes. Still, outside of very basic stuff, I would not consider myself as someone who can give advanced guidance. I’ve shot a lot of guns, and I am very comfortable acquiring and hitting targets, but less comfortable fixing broke pews or any kind of complex distance shooting (I’m slowly working my way into that).

        Wulfgar, I’d say start with the basics and scale up. That gives Jim the opportunity to suss out if he’s on board with the idea, it gives us a chance to review your style/voice and editorialize, and creates a corpus for the Eternal Lurker to work with.

        • jim says:

          We don’t need advanced guidance. Advanced guidance is Ivan the Troll.

          We need basics.

          • Kunning Druegger says:

            Good basics always leads to advanced technique. Laying down a good foundation will always lead the better students to ask the pertinent questions. I have been in classes that were just a couple boomer POGs regaling the class with story after story, then making the written test open book and the range qualifier almost impossible to flunk. Bad bad bad. The basics classes I took that were valuable were with instructors who knew what seemed like everything there was to know, but that only came out as we progressed through the course and questions were asked that naturally extended into deeper concepts. I think shooting might be similar to coding in that you can read all you want, and talk about it all you want, but the doing of it is 90%. best training I ever did was 2 days in the classroom and 5 days on the range, with one whole class devoted to range etiquette, RSO/Instructor commands, and blue gun practice.

      • Kunning Drueger says:

        Shoot (lol), I forgot to add that, in addition to Wulfgar, both Starman and St. John have demonstrated ballistic theory proficiency, so they will be useful in critiquing Wulfgar.

      • Wulfgar Thundercock III says:

        That is basically my only credential. Lots of training and the skill to put bullets where I want them. I qualified expert every time in the Marine Corps, with scores in the 240-245 range. You can look that up and see what you think of it, but it is the only objective measure I can point to.

        • jim says:

          That is the best credential

        • Pax Imperialis says:

          What do you think of the 2016 changes?

          • Wulfgar Thundercock III says:

            I was out by 2016, and I have no interest in what the Marine Corps did after I left. it was already shifting in a bad direction when I was in. I cannot imagine they were improving quality or making the standards higher.

    • Adam says:

      Any info or advice on reloading ammo, reload kits, tools etc. would be great.

      • Kunning Druegger says:

        What little I know of that endaevor, it appears to be heavy in specific tools that require a workshop, intimate familiarity with said tools, and a stream of inputs like brass, powder, and lead. Your best bet is to find someone that does it and make friends and become a sponge. Lots of those guys are Tinker Types, and if you approach them right, they will literally not shut up about it, which is exactly what you want. Look for small gun stores, as in guys with a lot of guns and an FFL.

        • zero says:

          Inputs really depend on cartridge and what you want to do with them, modern reloading is really just custom manufacturing, buy the inputs and make your own load, it can be extremely useful for hunting with unusual calibers or conditions as it lets you use more appropriate bullet designs that may not be commercially available. Primers are the limitation because fedgov fags are at war with America and it’s illegal to build new primer factories altho trump lessened that, it is the primary source of ammo shortage no one in the industry talks about because they are good serfs. Lead and brass are expensive but brass can be reused and pure lead can still be bought, if your going for volume it will be Expensive! For target or hunting it’s pretty affordable. The big equipment isn’t needed as it can be done with very simple tools one cartridge at a time. but in my opinion the easiest is black powder cartridges. Many were designed specifically to be reloaded with hand tools by soldiers so they are easy to work. You don’t have to load only black powder pressures if the brass and gun can take it. Lead alloy doesn’t work well at modern rifle velocities without gilding or jacket and I don’t know much about modern rifle cartridge reloading. With pure lead and some pure alloying metals very good standard velocity and slower bullets can be made that are devastating on game. Primers are in short supply right now but it is possible to make them safely at home with accessible ingredients. The only way I would ever recommend making them is one primer at a time with a compound mixed wet and absolutely safe in slurry form,you will need to know your chemistry well and choose compounds carefully or you will be in enormous danger. It will involve powdered glass which is nasty but not to bad, and if you ever set off an ounce of primer compound you can say good by to your face. There is some risk of metal poisoning so the lead has to be handled outside when molten and the heavy metals should not touch things inside your house, no putting the kit for it in the closet, same for mercury or lead primer compound making. A good hand washing and shower plus keeping the clothing for work separate is a must. I prefer the lead primers but they’re still poisonous. Corrosive primers are fine as long as you don’t mix mercury or anything else embrittling with brass you mean to reuse. Hot water and a very good cleaning within a few hours of firing with a brush used mid flush will protect barrels and the corrosive primers are much easier to make. If you want to shoot a little reloading isn’t that expensive and with a good bullet at the right velocity with the right lube it is definitely a way to take game. Just be extremely careful and knowledgeable when working with powder, primer and metal as it can be very hazardous if you don’t know what your doing. Muzzleloading is an easy way to get started and it isn’t old fashioned, a good rifle with ball will knock deer over very well. It’s also a way to learn about cartridge loading because you are making a cartridge, patch, lube, alloy, powder compound and grain, charge. It’s a lot of fun. Most people don’t know how to shoot muzzleloader so it gets an awful rep for accuracy but a rifle can be 200-400 yards accurate and I know a couple guys who have smoothbores they shoot to 80-100 yards and take deer with. I love lead lol

  36. Leon says:

    Jackson, Mississippi just lost clean drinking water. America continues to become a third world country.

    • jim says:

      It did not lose clean drinking water. It has not had water that is safe to drink without first boiling it for a long time. What it just recently lost was water pressure. You turn on the tap, and nothing comes out.

  37. Cloudswrest says:

    Artemis 1 launch scrubbed for second time due to “hydrogen leak”. The leak appears to be somewhere in the filling infrastructure, not in the rocket itself.

    • Cloudswrest says:

      They probably didn’t have the gas cap on tight so it failed OBDII EVAP test. LOL

      • jim says:

        Liquid hydrogen is tricky stuff. I doubt Nasa has the tech capability to handle it any more.

        Liquid hydrogen gives better performance (if the rocket is big enough that air resistance does not matter too much) It is more expensive than liquid methane, but the inherent extra costs are not that high, and if you are after substantial delta V (moon or mars) the better performance means substantially less fuel, which reduces the fuel cost to substantially cheaper than methane. The big extra cost is that infrastructure for handling large amounts of liquid hydrogen is inherently more expensive, takes longer to build, and all that. I suspect the reason Musk went with liquid methane rather than liquid hydrogen is the same has the reason he went with stainless steel rather than carbon/carbon, or exotic high temperature alloys like those used in jet turbines.
        He is in a hurry.

        Also if you are going to mars, have to keep it liquid over a long journey, and equipment to keep it liquid is bigger, heavier, more expensive, and would take considerably longer to develop than the equipment to keep methane liquid.

        • Karl says:

          Space is cold. Keeping hydrogen liquid in the cold doesn’t sound that difficult.

          • Cloudswrest says:

            You would need a big (tennis court sized) sun shield like they have with the Webb telescope.

          • jim says:

            The sun in space radiates a lot of heat. People in space radiate a lot of heat.

            The Webb space telescope is a long, long way from people and has a very elaborate sun shade, but the ambient temperature of its parts that are not actively refrigerated are 42K, which is about double the boiling point of hydrogen at atmospheric pressure.

            So, to keep hydrogen cool by the cold of space, would need a high pressure tank with a big sunshield, with the people and stuff on the sunny side of the sunshield. Doable, Maybe you send out a hydrogen tanker rocket which unfolds a big origami style sunshield, an oxygen tanker rocket with a less elaborate sunshield, and a people rocket.

          • Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

            Space is a vacuum, which is insulation. No convenient working fluid all around you to carry heat away with, only radiation.

        • Tech Priest says:

          Some comments on hydrogen:

          1. While hydrogen is lighter for the same oomph, the tanks are heavier. This is not such a big deal if your stages are not trying to individually get large delta V. (refueling counts as separate stages for this purpose, but the relevant number is the delta-V your stage could reach not what it actually reaches in any particular case). It is a big deal if you need super high delta-V on a single stage, such as an SSTO. I haven’t done the math on how big a deal this is for Starship’s ~7km/s delta V. But since Musk is also trying to minimize cost to build, he probably doesn’t want to have a very large fuel tank which would be hard to make both light and cheap.

          2. Typically hydrogen is run highly fuel rich. If fuel cost is relevant instead of performance being the only concern you could run it closer to stoichiometric.

          3. Currently, hydrogen is typically produced from methane. If you instead produce methane from hydrogen as Musk proposes to do on Mars, that will obviously affect the relative costs.

          • jim says:

            You run hydrogen rockets fuel rich because it does not cost that much in fuel weight to run them fuel rich, and it keeps the engine temperature down. With a more elaborately designed engine, you could have it fuel rich near the engine walls, and nearer stochiometric in the main part of the burn.

            Musk’s engines run considerably hotter than the engines NASA used to build.

            There are major advantages to a hydrogen rocket done right – as there are major advantages to a rocket made of carbon-carbon rather than stainless steel – but to improve the art of rocketry, Musk needs a factory that can continuously iterate rocket design with short turnaround time.

            It takes him long enough to build the ground facilities as it is, and it is looking like NASA cannot build the ground facilities at all.

            • Tech Priest says:

              While running fuel rich does keep temperature down, it’s my impression that with regenerative cooling of the combustion chamber and nozzle, temperature in the main combustion chamber isn’t particularly a limiting factor.

              Where temperature does matter is in the preburner(s) because there is at least one component (the turbine) which is basically impossible to regeneratively cool. But you can run the preburner(s) away from stoichiometric even if the main combustion is stoichiometric.

    • Red says:

      I was watching the first attempt hoping that NASA would say fuck it and launch hoping that it would all work out like it did with the James Web. The fireball would have been amazing.

      I forgot about the second attempt since I assumed they’ll just keep on scrubbing it. The older tech on the rocket seems to be working but everything new connected to it is not.

  38. Neurotoxin says:

    Here’s what I think is the most powerful argument for defying any lockdown order upon Trump’s arrest and vigorously expressing our anger:

    The arrest of Trump will be the last thing that the right has to a public Schelling event.

    • jim says:

      May be the last chance for us to have a Caesar from the right. The scenario would be Trump arrested, wave of repression, Caesar announces he is going to save the Republic, since the repression is obviously undemocratic. If no Caesar, have to wait for the Republican meme to finish dying.

      • Red says:

        I have some hope for DeSantis in that scenario.

      • Karl says:

        Caesar crossed the Rubikon in a “do or die” situation.

        When they arrest Trump, a lot of people should realize that they will also be arrested, maybe not next, but within a few years at most. That means that a lot of people should have motivation to become Caesar simply to save their own lives.

        But emigration seems much easier and much safer to ensure survival. Most potential Caesars are rich enough to simply leave the West and live a quiet life outside of the empire. That narrows the pool of candidates.

        A possible Caesar is then only someone who either missed his chances to emigrate while he still could or someone who is not motivated primarily by survival.

        Normality bias might help us getting a Caesar. Someone with power who does not understand how dire the situation is when Trump is arrested and therefore misses his opportunity to emigrate while he still can. Not ideal. Would be better to have someone who understands the situation right now and is willing to risk his life by not emigrating.

        Another possibility might be someone from the military. A man can become a general or colonel without being rich and some military men might be unable to emigrate legally. (Not sure whether the last is true in the USA, but in Germany persons with security clearance cannot freely travel).

  39. not a reactionary says:

    Alright, so I’d like some dating advice guys. I haven’t had sex in a while and would like to date some decent looking chicks. I don’t make much money and I don’t have any close friends (I used to be in a band and hung out with a bunch of degenerates, plenty of sluts to go round but I got tired of smoking weed and partying with boring dumbasses). I’m on good terms with the guys I work with. I’m tall and in great shape, people think I’m a few years younger than I actually am. I don’t have any trouble getting 4s and 5s to talk to me; in fact I recently had some girl tell me she had been dreaming about me (a 4), and I wasn’t trying to impress her at all.

    However, I don’t want to waste my time with 4s and 5s. I think shooting for 6s and 7s is reasonable, what should I be doing? My understanding of the red pill on women is that they need to dominated and told what to do, and are irresistibly drawn to charming dickbags (preferably with a capacity for violence). Certain kinds of drug dealers, gang bangers, and the like do well with women. I’ve known a couple who’ve had naked chicks roaming around their place regularly. I know that with women it’s better to be too mean than too nice.

    I’ve heard many different kinds of advice, “treat women all the same regardless of how hot they are”, “aloofness”, “lift weights” (I lift regularly). What advice would you give?

    • Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

      Generally speaking, hookups are a numbers game. Proposition enough women, and eventually you get hits. On that note, being openly forwards with your sexual intentions is not a minus, but a plus for women. Lust always comes before love in the female of the species, and they love men with volcanic barely moderated libidos (if you don’t have a volcanic barely moderated libido, then you need to at least give the impression of it).

      If you are interested in anything more than one night stands, things can get a bit more complicated, but if getting your dick wet is all you’re looking for, that suffices.

    • Adam says:

      Think with your dick.

      Social events that have a regular attendance (church, school etc.) are what I would look if your thinking more long term. The hot single girls are usually fairly aggressive in looking for guys. If you look the part and can pass shit tests, should be pretty straight forward and natural.

    • alf says:

      If you understand the basics, and it seems you do, I think it really boils down to two things, the most important of which is access point.

      Eg, where do you meet chicks? Context for women is everything. Shame you ‘re no longer in a band. The higher status you are in your access point, the easier it is to pick up chicks. Many men with zero pick up knowledge will pick up a girl just because they’ve been drinking and hanging out at a friend’s shed for years.

      The worse your access point, the more you’ll need to play up the second point: number’s game. You can pick up chicks in a club, you’ll need to wade througj a sea of whores is all. Lots of you rejecting girls and girls rejecting you. All part of the game.

      • jim says:

        Chicks will travel a really long distance looking for alpha, and affluent chicks will look for alpha in rather expensive places.

        • bachelor says:

          If you have any more specific advice regarding location at all levels (country, state, city, type of venue), it would be appreciated. Access to girls is very important for me when deciding where to deploy my time and money and I can’t afford to do reconnaissance in dozens of cities. Specifically looking for 18-20 year olds of high IQ, light pigmentation, demure personality, and northwest European descent. It seems that being near a good university is important, but it is hard to identify that based purely on number crunching because there are intangibles such as climate and natural geographic beauty.

          • The Cominator says:

            Specifically looking for 18-20 year olds of high IQ, light pigmentation, demure personality, and northwest European descent.

          • The Cominator says:

            My computer seemed to autoreply

            1. There are almost no high IQ white women. White women are midwits all IQ wise at best.

            2. The very rare exceptions tend to be cluster B or extreme manic depressives and they aren’t demure anywhere (not that I’m personally all that wild about demure since demure girls never have liked me much).

            3. Northwest Euro means light pigmentation but why be so picky to exclude Slavic girls.

    • Kunning Druegger says:

      This feels like a slide thread…

  40. Kunning Druegger says:

    I get my news from JB and Stormer, so I just didn’t realize how much the Biden Speech had affected our fellows in the Soft Right. It has really stirred up trouble, lads. The younger and hotter of our fellows is itching for a fight, which makes sense. There was a pre-covid meme along the lines of “We’d rather not, but if it’s a boog ye want then it’s a boog ye’ll have, for it’s better to settle it now in Virginia than sabers crossed o’er the land” or some shit [it was in reference to the gun rally in Richmond VA IIRC]. The young’uns are double insulated from any kind of sufferings, too young for the start of GWoT and not old enough to have kids, I suspect. Whatever the case, they’re hopping mad.

    But the older ones are… well, Boomers they remain, but I think they are actually starting to play a bit o’ the chess with quad Ds, as it were, and they, or some of them, realize that this is incitement, pure and plain. The Bidenistas want the Right to make a move, so they can corral their sheepdogs, point and point out “See?! See, we told you they hate the Beatles and the Constitution and Our Way o’ Life!! Have at them, for the homeland! Find the Halfling!”

    Jim, I get that we aren’t starting a new religion. I get that you aren’t the prophet (tendies upon his name). But I think you should consider writing a post for widespread propagation that tells everyone in the Right “Hold, lads! Hold!! Don’t fire until you see the whites are on our side!” I really am starting to believe They are close to toppling. They are running out of rope, and the noose is firmly around their neck, and they need someone to come along and cut it before it pulls tight. And they believe it is the sheepdogs. They believe they can spin this with Them on the side of Order and The Others as the enemies of Order.

    We want them to keep chucking kitchen sinks at the problem. If they find something that works, they’ll slip out of panic mode and start thinking longer term. When they are stuck at full throttle, only able to respond to crises as they appear, they seem to consistently choose the worst option. As awful as it is to live through, this is exactly what we want to happen.

    We need to buy time for Caesar to wake up and take power.

    • Neurotoxin says:

      So this is a theme that I also see over at FQ. Severian and his commentariat seem to think (with a few dissenters) that Biden’s speech reveals some sort of desperation on the part of the left. I just don’t see it. The purpose of the speech seems very straightforward, “We’re going to arrest Trump soon; let’s lay the groundwork first.”

      On the trying to provoke us thing: Nah, they can whip up a false flag any time they want. If they get really desperate they’ll just kill a couple of gay black guys and leave a MAGA hat near their bodies as “evidence” that it was Trump supporters.

      As to whether they’re feeling desperate or cocky or whatever, I’m not getting any readings on that. It’s impossible to get anything from a senile old retard who isn’t even speaking for himself, but is serving as someone else’s puppet and mouthpiece.

      If I were a leftist right now I wouldn’t be feeling desperate. I’d be feeling like I had things pretty well in hand. My play would be to avoid riling things up.

      • Red says:

        So this is a theme that I also see over at FQ. Severian and his commentariat seem to think (with a few dissenters) that Biden’s speech reveals some sort of desperation on the part of the left. I just don’t see it. The purpose of the speech seems very straightforward, “We’re going to arrest Trump soon; let’s lay the groundwork first.”

        I see it as a declaration of war on Trump and the people who voted for him. They’re morally justifying the genocide they intend to commit. That’s the sort of comments I see all over reddit. The shill line is that It’s unfortunate, but MAGA people have to go.

        On the trying to provoke us thing: Nah, they can whip up a false flag any time they want. If they get really desperate they’ll just kill a couple of gay black guys and leave a MAGA hat near their bodies as “evidence” that it was Trump supporters.

        They do want Trump supporters to attack them. Thier false flags are not great and they’d love the real thing. I’m not sure if that speech was intended to trigger that or not. They do seem to be working on a large scale false flag attack probably with lots of casualties. PF exists just for that purpose and the feds spent well over a year setting them up for something like that.

        I don’t see any desperation from the left. I think they see more apple carts to knock over. The fact that they get to murder the people who oppose them and steal their stuff makes it all the more appealing to them.

        The only real question in my mind is do they do it after the rigged midterms or before the rigged midterms. They’re generally running with abortion as the reason the Democrats are beating the polls by 10-15%. They may just stick with that.

      • Kunning Druegger says:

        The desperation isn’t obvious until their “cunning” plan falls apart. Compare the GAE in March with the GAE in August in terms of the response to Russia. Compare the Biden Regime in August 2021 to the Biden Regime in August 2022.

        A helpful analog here is the military operations of the GAE in the Global War on Terror. Look at how it was portrayed in 2002, 2012, and 2022. For the majority of time in that double decade stretch, the sounds and images portrayed an overwhelming military power putting paid to a fractured and incompetent enemy whose only recourse was to hide in caves and unfairly blow up civilians in the face of fully covered Intelligence, Surveillance, Reconnaissance assets from the ground to space, smooth operators with high kill counts, smart bombs, and a million men to utilize. All for naught. Nothing in current year can honestly portray that GWoT was a success. The participating militaries are weakened, their supporting populations revile them, their managing governments have decreased positions on the whole range of issues and regions.

        The Cathedral will always portray itself as dominant, powerful, and competent. They have no capacity for humility. As they get weaker, they strive to seem stronger. When the head bureaucrat is giving Hitlerian speeches with menacing red lights, calling the opposition evil and in need of extirpation, the counsel is desperation, not confidence.

        This doesn’t mean they are going to collapse tomorrow. But when did Obama ever do any of the stuff Biden is forced to do regularly? They height of Cathedral control was 2012-2014; that’s when they attempted their biggest power grabs and most far reaching plots and operations. Now, Biden Regime has to make every single policy initiative some Tolkien-esque conquest of world-saving proportions.

        Maybe I am off on this one. I am open to hear how I am. In the words of Baron FistRazor: “The opposite of Love is not Hate, it is Indifference.”

        • The Cominator says:

          The height of Cathedral control was probably WWII it just got crazier stupider and gayer since then.

          The Cathedral was founded by Wilson and Colonel House and other than not liking blacks they were just as crazy stupid and gay as the modern Cathedral. FDR’s version worked a lot better… the 60s was a farther left faction seizing the institutional machinery.

    • Adam says:

      I really do hate the Beatles.

      Totally off-topic, I never considered Prince to be all that alpha. Turns out he has a son, and the list of model-tier celebrity girlfriends he dated stretches a mile long. Even more surprising is the things those women say about him. He definitely knew what he was doing.

      • Red says:

        I really do hate the Beatles.

        Boy bands are so gay.

        • Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

          Intentionally so even. The Beatles, like a lot of ‘pop art’ from that period, was literally a CIA instigation. Kids like John Lennon were conditioned from birth to be mouldable plants, dispensed to various social engineering projects.

          • Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

            David Hogg and Greta Thunsperg are some latterday examples of this (“they aren’t sending their best”).

          • Globalist Power Terminated II says:

            It’s great that this has become (relatively) common knowledge.

      • Cloudswrest says:

        I think the character Ruby Rhod in The Fifth Element is a parody of Prince.

    • Globalist Power Terminated II says:

      I really am starting to believe They are close to toppling. They are running out of rope, and the noose is firmly around their neck, and they need someone to come along and cut it before it pulls tight. And they believe it is the sheepdogs. They believe they can spin this with Them on the side of Order and The Others as the enemies of Order.

      “If you wait by the river long enough, the bodies of your enemies will float by.”
      — Some Asian guy, IDK.

    • Red says:

      We want them to keep chucking kitchen sinks at the problem. If they find something that works, they’ll slip out of panic mode and start thinking longer term. When they are stuck at full throttle, only able to respond to crises as they appear, they seem to consistently choose the worst option. As awful as it is to live through, this is exactly what we want to happen.

      Meme warfare is the most effective thing we can do. The less legitimacy they have when they start the purges the stronger the resistance will be. The downside with that is they’ll focus on that resistance instead of murdering each other. I’d much rather watch them mass murder their fellow leftists while waiting for Cesar rather than have a shooting war with no elite leadership. But we really have no control of how that plays out. Once they start disarming people the die will be cast.

      • alf says:

        Give to satan what belongs to satan. They will talk about how righteous it is to kill us, but when push comes to shove, they will kill the path of least resistance, ie each other. They are trying to stop themselves from killing each other: ‘look at those evil white Christians! We must not be divided!’

        But they are divided, irreconcilibly. All we need to do is hold the line, and soon they cannot help but tear into each other. And then, slowly, our opportunity will come.

        They will also tear into easy targets on the right. This may likely include Trump. I wish it weren’t so.

      • Neurotoxin says:

        Red: “Meme warfare is the most effective thing we can do.”

        I see the argument for this, but as I said to JJ below, I fear how seductive it is. I wonder if it’s appealing to my brain, or to some vice like cowardice or laziness. So I fear this argument. I fear that, for the wrong reasons, I will accept it too readily.

        • jim says:

          Civil wars have to be won before they are fought.

          I have been randomly dropping red pills and Christian white pills on random normies, not as street evangelism, but to see how they react.

          Demon worship memes such as Covid and Gaia are dead in the water.

          Faith in the Republic lingers on, despite the heavy body blows of Biden announcing he needs to crush the opposition to save democracy, and the 2020 election.

          Christianity only seems dead. Its resurrection is quietly under way.

          Comes the hour, comes the man, but the hour is getting alarmingly late. If Caesar is our guy, Pinochet, Sulla, or Monk, he will probably announce, and quite likely believe, he is saving the Republic, but for this to sell, we need people to be pretty relaxed about the likelihood that he is going to be fairly elastic about what “Republic” means.

          Memetic struggle still matters. Our enemies know this – look at all the shilling.

          Winning a civil war requires a leader. A leader requires a memetic basis for his leadership. Christian Nationalism, somewhat to my astonishment, seems to live and to have broad appeal.

          • Wulfgar Thundercock III says:

            I regularly disparage the regime as fake and gay, and not defend it. I have one friend thatndoes, but he is also old, so he cannot imagine a world without democracy because the Founding Father’s were the greatest and wisest men in all of existence and democracy is the best system ever and America is in great shape and cannot ever lose, flag, or fail. All the people my age are just sort of resigned to it. If something else comes along and looks good, they will jump on it.

        • JJ says:

          Low-effort meme warfare, such as the boomercon and the griller do, is indeed seductive. It appeals to people who are useless and cowardly because it lets them pretend they are not.

          Your goal in meme warfare is two-fold: to harvest salt from the enemy, and to generate keks in your allies. You will know you are doing it right when the enemy is screeching at you to stop laughing, beating on you with his fists while you are exalted in mirth.

          If I had to pick the perfect example it would be Tyler Durden’s fight with Lou in Fight Club. Lou beats the crap out of Durden but Durden still wins because he has a higher tolerance than Lou for ultra-violence, which is of course the supreme authority in this situation.

          Rule one of street fighting: Always be crazier than the other guy.

          You need to calibrate this. Antifa will have a much higher capacity for violence than Lou, being motivated by perceived holiness rather than by money, and having more backing from the state. Thus, you need be smart. Maintain your resolve to out-violence the enemy, but with a little more thrust-and-parry.

          Less commitment, more ambiguity. Fluid.

          While a little bit of a scrap can be fun and even funny, having your brains dashed out by a brick is not. Everyone remembers Rittenhouse. No one remembers the poor soul who got brained.

          Obviously this path is not for everyone. If you are worried about violence, or death, you may wish to choose another route. It is written (Dt 20:8):

          And the officers shall speak further unto the people, and they shall say, What man is there that is fearful and fainthearted? let him go and return unto his house, lest his brethren’s heart faint as well as his heart.

          Or, as Tyler Durden says, you decide your own level of involvement.

          • Neurotoxin says:

            “Less commitment, more ambiguity.”


            Can you elaborate on this?

            • JJ says:

              The enemy should never know how serious you are. He should never know if you are going to defend a (physical or memetic) position to the death or abandon it in the next second.

              It is like poker. You rarely want to call. You want to always be either folding or raising. And you need to be aware of your emotions, your tells, and use prayer and meditation and other techniques to diffuse them.

              Everything you do, you do in a lighthearted manner. The enemy is at war, therefore we are at war, and we know all of these things, but does the enemy know we know? The cheekiness that we portray is a shield against him knowing this, and it has the added benefit of making sure we never take ourselves too seriously. One must always be humble before God.

              I recommend prayer as your foundation. Use an arrow prayer. God is unknowable and we cannot reach him logically, but we can reach him through love and humility, like an arrow that pierces the cloud that exists between us and God. Humble your heart, want to be close to Him, and use a single word prayer such as “God” or “Love” or the Jesus prayer.

              Pray without ceasing. The prayer will spring to your mind when you need it the most.

    • Anonymous Fake says:

      [*enemy black pilling deleted*]

      • jim says:

        It is completely obvious that the Global American Empire is very afraid of Christian Nationalism, and very afraid of its own fighting men, very afraid of the US military grunt.

        Is that fear well founded? You confidently tell us they have nothing to fear. Perhaps that is true. And, yet, they are afraid.

        • Anonymous Fake says:

          The Christian nationalism meme is designed to [*deleted*]

          • jim says:

            Our guys created that meme. We get to say what it is. You don’t.

            • Anonymous Fake says:

              The only acceptable additions to “just Christian” are [things that can be and are substantially converged to demon worship*]

              • jim says:

                If you are going to lecture us on what real Christianity really is, need to take the short affirmation:

                Jesus Christ is Lord, born in Bethlehem, died at Jerusalem, and is, is from before the beginning of the world. Fully God and fully man. God is three and God is one

                • jim says:

                  It is remarkable how rare it is for people telling me what Christianity is to be able to say that. I think they fear they might catch on fire.

                • Anonymous Fake says:

                  Here’s the affirmation, because it’s worth repeating…

                  Jesus Christ is Lord, born in Bethlehem, died at Jerusalem, and is, is from before the beginning of the world. Fully God and fully man. God is three and God is one.


                  And there is no such thing as an “invisible church”. The Church is a body, too, and it has no need to be linked with a temporal secular institution (and a flawed one) in nationalism. Doing so is falling into a trap for all the reasons I keep saying.

                  Catholic and Orthodox are both accurate descriptions of the Church, in spite of schisms. Protestantism is essentially a cursed meme from the beginning.

                  And baptism is necessary for salvation.

                • jim says:

                  OK then, I will debate with you on what Christianity is.

                  Christianity was organized from the beginning by cities, and as the Roman Empire splintered, by nations.

                  When the Tsar subdued a Kingdom, he would not rule directly, but rather install a King better aligned with his interests. And he would not incorporate their State Church directly into the Russin Orthodox Church, but rather install a leader of their state Church.

                  Christian charity is intended primarily for near, rather than far. Universal charity is cold as ice, and Paul strongly discommends it. National Churches have been the rule until the Church of Rome claimed universality, a claim that led to rivers of blood, which rivers eventually washed over Rome itself, a claim that was continually resisted by deadly force, with nominally Roman Catholic Kings frequently at war with the Pope.

                  Before the war of Northern Aggression, each state had its own state Church.

                  The Catholic Church, not to be confused with the heretical Roman Catholic Church, is ruled by the consensus of the Bishops of national Churches. And national Churches have always been patriots of their nations. When the Tsar army installed a Russian Orthodox priest as head of the national Church of some Kingdom to render that nation less truculent, that priest was supposed to become a patriot of that Kingdom, or at least pretend to it, and he no longer styled himself Russian Orthodox but (name of nation) Orthodox.

                  Christian Nationalism is a long standing Christian norm, subverted by the Roman claim to universality, and now by the progressive McChristian claim to universality. We are commanded to love our neighbor, because the human heart is too small to love the whole world. If your Church is not Christian Nationalist, it does not love its neighbors.

                  From the time of Constantine until very recently, Christianity has always been a state religion, and the Roman Catholic Church’s claims of universality were resisted in that even supposedly Roman Catholic Kings wanted to appoint their own Bishops, which disagreements frequently turned lethal, resulting in rivers of blood, which rivers of blood eventually washed over Rome itsel, thus Churches have always been national Churches, and thus always nationalist.

                • Anon says:

                  You said in another thread you want the father to be king in his house and high priest of his family, how you squire this with christianity system of churches and priests.
                  If the father can be priest, why churche and priest ?
                  your system seem to be derived from the “domestic religion” of the indo-european.

                • jim says:

                  That the father is the priest of his family is standard old type Christianity. Maybe it became standard when Christianity conquered pagans among whom it was already standard.

                • Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

                  If father can be king, why kingdom and king?

                • jim says:

                  A man is king under his own roof, but to protect that little kingdom needs a larger kingdom.

                • Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

                  Thus, we understand the Housefather and the Church of Housefathers as well.

                • Anonymous Fake says:

                  Corruption in the Vatican doesn’t mean Rome isn’t the rightful headquarters of the temporal powers of the Church. And corrupt popes or the lack of a pope don’t nullify the legitimacy of the idea of the pope.

                  The Church has a right to some temporal power of its own. It isn’t supposed to take excessive temporal power, as in theocracy, but enough to fulfill its spiritual mission.

                  Charity is optimally in line with local leverage and subsidiarity yes but there must always be some element in one’s charitable outlook towards all of humanity. Nationalism, forcing one’s allegiance to a nation rather than seeing a nation as a means to an end, is where the wheels come off.

                  Nations, just like government forms, can be put away when they are no longer good. Ukraine deserves to be buried. Ruthenia or something more traditional can replace the idea of Ukraine.

                  Church councils as well as the pope speaking under a declaration of infallibility are authoritative on spiritual issues. Nations are not the final authority so the “-ism” of nationalism is the problem here.

                • jim says:

                  > Corruption in the Vatican doesn’t mean Rome isn’t the rightful headquarters of the temporal powers of the Church.

                  What nullifies the idea of the Pope is that leadership of the Church was from the beginning collegial, the consensus of the leading Bishops. Paul was never Bishop of Rome, he gave himself the higher title of Apostle to the Gentiles, and appointed Bishops in each gentile city. After Peter was killed or went underground, James the Just led the Church among Jewish converts in Israel, and Paul and James were the important Bishops, governing collegially with each other and with other Bishops. And Paul negated the proposal to have only one set of rites and practices. Unimportant practices should be appropriate to each peoples’ nature, history, and culture, prefiguring and permitting the current practice of Orthodoxy where different nationalities get different national orthodox Churches.

                  What nullifies the idea of the Pope was that singular leadership of the Pope was even heard of until the eleventh century, never in practice widely accepted at any time ever, with the Holy Roman Emperors appointing their own Bishops, and powerful vassals of Kings and emperors appointing their own Bishops, and when, from the eleventh century to the sack of Rome, the Pope claimed broad temporal powers and singular leadership authority over the Church, seeking Kingdoms, rather than farms, the Bishop of Rome frequently found himself at war with the Holy Roman Emperor, which eventually led to the sack of Rome.

                  What the Roman Catholic Church tells us was the normal and universal consensus has never been the Christian consensus, and rivers of blood ensued from endless failed attempts to make it the consensus, which rivers eventually washed over Rome itself.

                  > Charity is optimally in line with local leverage and subsidiarity yes but there must always be some element in one’s charitable outlook towards all of humanity.

                  The command is “Peace on Earth to all men of Goodwill”. Which implies you are allowed to go old testament on men not of goodwill. As Christian nations with great regularity have always done.

                  Not going to war with men of goodwill is a considerably lesser constraint than that which applies to neighbours, hence nationalism. If you are required to love your neighbours, you are required to love your nation. And not love all nations equally, because those far are not neighbours, and those unneighbourly are not neighbours.

                • The Cominator says:

                  The church is not supposed to have independent temporal power and certainly not power that crosses borders, “my kingdom is not of this world”.

                • ten says:

                  Do you not hear your own weasel words, sanctimonious fag? “have a right”, “some”, “enough”. Why and how much?
                  There is no information or reason in your posts, just impotent proclamations.

                • FrankNorman says:

                  “Protestantism is essentially a cursed meme from the beginning.”

                  Speaking for myself, that sentence tells me all I really need to know about whether to regard AF as a friend or an enemy.

                  Anyone who openly calls my faith a “cursed meme” is no more on my side than is an SJW or a Communist revolutionary.

                • jim says:

                  When asked for my religion, I call myself the last Anglican.

                  Unfortunately the Anglican hierarchy was taken over by post Christians, who interpreted Jesus as Jesus the Jewish Community organizer, around 1820-1832, and not very long thereafter, by people who believed themselves atheists, but were, or became, demon worshippers.

      • Globalist Power Terminated II says:

        Yup. If these fuckwads weren’t shitting their pants with fear, then what exactly would they be doing here then? What do they attempt to accomplish by, for example, using Pooch’s identity to shill leftoid memes?

  41. Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

    There are few things more depressing than the sight of grown men wearing nothing but a t-shirt and pants out in public.

    The state of ‘mens fashion’ in latter years in abjectly impoverished – and has been fore the past hundred at that.

    Step into the first clothing store you see, and you will find only dirges to mediocrity. Grey, black, and blue is the order of the day, this day and all other days. Monotone coloration, frequently, and absent of any patterning, detailing, variegation, or decoration. You could find more variety of style on a single rack in the women’s section than in the entire ‘men’s department’ altogether.

    It should be understood that good fashion is not simply something one does for oneself, it is something that gives fairness to the eyes of everyone around you. To be well dressed elevates the spiritual health of every space you are in, just the same way as each other aspects relate to beauty.

    • Adam says:

      For me it’s middle aged guys still giving each other bro hugs. Look me in the eye and shake my hand.

      • Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

        It’s not a matter of maturity, *noone* is out here looking good. What i need to impress upon here is just how thoroughly soul-draining the puritan aesthetic is. So many men going through daily life feeling like shit yet don’t have the ability to consciously articulate what those feelings are exactly or why it is happening and this is one of the biggest expressions of that; they can’t recognize how *ab*normal the abjectness of this situation is because they have known nothing else; they feel pain yet don’t necessarily recognize it as pain – a part of them may even deny that it is pain, conditioned as it is by the very sources of its abuse – and to the extent they do recognize the pain, it is so oft inchoate; they cast about for minor momentary things that have changed in their memory to attach the directionless feelings too, without grasping that the great matter of the issue has already been the case from the beginning, yea, from long before their beginning.

      • Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

        Top business men, top military men, top academoi men – they all dress like paupers. A simple button up and vest combination is enough to elevate you above the fashion standards of 99% of any social situations one might find themselves in today. The only ‘sumptuary displays’ you see validated in kept outlets is people spending 200 dollars to buy a shirt that looks barely different from something you could pick up in walmart.

        • Kunning Druegger says:

          This was going to be my objection to your position; I am not going to buy 6 guns worth of clothing that amounts to 2 outfits that are only “fashionable” or “quality” because of the name on the tag no one sees. I do not dress “nice” by any measure, but half the time it is “working fingers to bone” clothing, and the other half is usually… well, to your point, slovenly as my fellow Carthaginians do. What should I be wearing? I used to always dress for “work” even when not working, and that dress code was demi-tactical, given that I was in the “art trades,” so my clothing was all gear for remote locations or whatever. Of late, I have been feeling the urge to dress better, but I am not quite sure how to go about it.

          How about a Fascion Guide for us, St. John? And anyone else who has the balls to contribute. I still reserve the right to go grayman as needed, but I would jump into better dressing with both feet.

          • jim says:

            First commandment of fashion. Lose weight and put on muscle. Nothing fits a fat man, and nothing makes a fat man look good. If you are fat, might as well wrap yourself in a potato sack.

            Which is a large part of how Kings lost power. Nothing that King George the Fourth wore could be fashionable. Ideas are more powerful than guns, but fashion is more powerful than ideas. Kings lost power because George the Fourth was unmanned by slut queen Caroline, but she was able to get away with it because Beau Brummel could snub George the Fourth. The problem was that Beau Brummel could destabilize men’s fashion, because the elite were wearing heavily decorated baggy clothes. So elite men’s fashion was something that could never be fashionable. So Beau Brummel got to out status King George the Fourth, making it impossible for him to perform the King’s proper role as the fount of all honors, mortal and divine, by which Charles the Second was able to redirect status competition into prosocial pursuits, notably science. (I am going to promote this comment into another fashion post.)

            Second commandment of fashion. Having lost weight and put on muscle, buy something that fits your actual body shape. This is, inevitably, tailored to fit you, and only you. Therefore expensive. Buy something tailored to fit you and only you from the cheapest possible source in the cheapest possible way, for what makes it fashionable is the tailoring, not the name of the man who tailored it.

            Why do Musk space suits look good? Because they are designed to be tailored, each one manufactured to fit one particular astronaut and no other, unlike NASA space suits, all of which are designed to fit anyone including a morbidly obese transexual. Because it is very difficult to keep a morbidly obese transexual alive in space while allowing it freedom of movement outside the vehicle, NASA space suits are impractically expensive, and make movement difficult.

            This fashion advice is of course fashion advice for men, for female fashions are silly and do not matter. But the same applies to women, except that women should have about double the percentage of body fat that a man should have, and should not be undulyu muscular, and that women want some attention attracting flim flam oddities to make them look different from every other women – until everyone imitates the fashion leader, whereupon the fashion leader gets a costume with different attention attracting flim flam oddities, resulting in the never ending change of women’s fashions, and unchanging stability of men’s fashions.

            When we bring women back under control, only whores (in the old sense of whore, not the twentieth century sense) will wear attention attracting flim flam, and they will all be extremely low status, and in danger of mistreatment, since their status will be similar to that of a stray dog. And the attention attracting flim flam will increase the danger of mistreatment, which is why they will enthusiastically decorate themselves in attention attracting flim flam. “because when those louses go back to their spouses, diamonds are a girl’s best friend

            When women are under control, respectable female fashion will have the same stability as men’s fashion, but disreputable female fashion will, alas, be where the action is. We just will have to keep it low status, in the same way as we will have keep gays in the closet. A bit of status lowering violence, here and there, now and again – though of course not so lethal.

            • Kunning Druegger says:

              My Rock&Roll rig is on fleek. I have a single patch and everything else is “tailored” haha. But yeah, my wardrobe needs some work. I know those mechanics, as it isn’t a suit until it’s Your suit.

              So is it best to just always roll in a button up, vest, and jacket? For a while, when I was no longer in a uniform, I enjoyed wearing polos and sleeper cargos (they look like dress pants, but they have mag pockets and such) because it felt way more comfortable.

              You are absolutely correct about the being fit aspect, but I personally feel no outfit is complete without a weapon. Soft handed folks disagree, but I don’t take a man seriously unless he carries a weapon he trains with. I’d love to have an AR pistol, something sleek and refined in matte colors, at all times, but we aren’t quite there yet. I have a work knife but I am not a blade guy; I have no training with them and I have no idea where to get it. G19 is simple, but there are are Sigs and CZs that are absolutely top tier.

              • Wulfgar Thundercock III says:

                G19 is the move. If you have a $1000 gun budget, and you buy a $500 Glock, that is a lot of money for ammo and range time. If you buy a $1000 race gun, then you are not going to spend as much time shooting it as you should. You do not need a top tier gun. You need a gun that you know like the back of your hand.

                You do not need an AR pistol. If you need a subgun, get a CZ Scorpion. If you want a short AR, stick with a 13 or 14 inch barrel and get your muzzle device pinned and welded. Throw on a CQB/PDW stock and you are good to go. Super short ARs are for assassins, not warriors. And again, if you need something like that, get a Scorpion or something akin to it. Load all your fighting magazines with hollowpoints because full metal jacket will not get the job done. Practice, practice, and practice more, until you can change a magazine blindfolded and your aim is instinct, not thought.

                • Wulfgar Thundercock III says:

                  Combat fashion follows what I heard called the purple dildo unicorn principle. If wearing a purple suction dildo on your forehead like a big faggot unicorn made you win fights, then all the hardest killers would be wearing big purple dildos, and the purple didlo would inspire respect and fear. If you killed all the other guys, then it will start to look good no matter how ridiculous it looked before you started stacking bodies.

                  Men’s fashion is based off of what killers wear, and modified to best accentuate the ideal masculine form. You want to wear something that makes you look like a badass? Take inspiration from mercenary gear and special operations uniforms. Keep in mind that if you dress like that, theb you better be ready to walk the walk or you will get called out.

                • jim says:

                  Data on shootouts indicates that, astonishingly, the small gun with the cheapest ammo, the gun than is easiest and most comfortable to fire, is the gun most effective in resolving the shootout to the shooter’s satisfaction.

                  I conjecture, it is not the gun, but the practice with the gun. The gun that you are most likely to practice with, that is easiest cheapest, and most fun to practice with, is what you should buy. Most people, on being hit with a 22, don’t instantly drop dead, but lose interest, enthusiasm, and capability to do you harm. Don’t worry about one shot stops. Worry about one shot hits on target.

                  Kyle hit an assailant in the arm that was holding the gun. You think he would switch arms and go on shooting?

                • Wulfgar Thundercock III says:

                  Your conjecture is almost certainly correct. It is treated as a truism in the community of serious shooters that I know and run with. If you cannot afford to feed the gun, then you cannot afford that gun. Get something cheaper, and a few hundred rounds of ammunition to go with it. A bad gun you know well is going to do you better than a great gun that you have not shot.

                  The data I know of was looking at caliber efficiency in stopping an attacker. Single round stopping power is pretty common in rifles and shotguns, about three rounds for most pistol. A rough estimate is that only 1 in 10^number of hits will continue to fight. If you get to three shots and he is still coming, mag dump him until he stops twitching.

                  Would you be interested in me putting together a practical post on gun ownership?

                • Red says:

                  Would you be interested in me putting together a practical post on gun ownership?

                  I’d love to see that.

                • Kunning Druegger says:

                  Ditto, Wulfgar.

                  Yeah, I am aware of the “.22 is enough” argument, and I find it compelling. I prefer a larger caliber and I am comfortable with it through practice. Something to consider: Rittenhouse was up against a hyped group of NPC-kit normies who had been spun up into a mob. They were not people trained and dedicated to “the art of score” as it were. If someone is wearing the modicum of body armor, .22 is a joke. You may get lucky with in ocular cavity hit, but other killing locations, like the “face delta” or arterial spots or what have you, are not really a trustable option for .22, as the target could get lucky with a through-and-through with no significant damage. Velocity is the real killer, but the mass is also relevant in many, if not most cases.

                  I get that AR pistols/SBRs are a fad and/or a “needs dedicated training” platform, but the form factor + velocity of caliber makes for quite the convincing argument to stay the fuck away. 5.56, 3200BLK, I have even seen 7.62, permanent argument concluders to be sure. I think the better option is the pistol-to-carbine conversion kits:

            • Globalist Power Terminated II says:

              That song is a hoot!

            • ten says:

              Looks to me like respectable women had a perpetual arms race concerning hats, skirts, corsets, you name it.

              • jim says:

                Some truth in that. But if you look at high fertility populations, for example Amish, no arms race.

                That there was arguably an arms race indicates a problem. The French aristocracy definitely had the arms race of which you speak, and definitely had a huge problem with out of control women.

                • zero says:

                  Do you think sumptuary laws were at some times in response to this? I know dress codes for woman were common at one point. It seems like the reduction of expense in clothing has made fashion a hideous peacocking game for women in the last centuries.

            • Anon says:

              Jim, a quick note: “fashion” is trend-oriented status mimicry for women and gays. Style is the timeless aesthetic principle you’re referring to.

          • Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

            Some of it was intimated upon in the first post. What one needs is to make a conscious decision to deviate from the puritan aesthetic. The biggest limiting factor to good style is not price, but availability. You could go into a store and not find anything that deviates from pauperism in style at any price.

            Consequently, filling out a good wardrobe is often necessarily a work of time, observation, and opportunity. Off-price/commodity surplus stores are good for this (eg, Burlington, TJX, Ross, NOZ, Familia, et cetera), as there is usually a constant churn of items at prices far below ‘primary’ outlets, which by-and-by can lead to good finds.

            In terms of colour, finding anything that doesn’t come in black or blue is of course difficult. Forest tones work well for standing apart, tans, creams, reds, and greens. Bright whites as well. Purples and pinks are more situational.

            In terms of coordinating colours, this is one of those things where the rulings that can be spoken of in abstract are little, and the rulings that can be felt are innumerable; to have the particular articles in question in front of one’s own eyes is necessary, so we can only say you must use your good judgement there. Outfits where each item shares the same colour theme of course always work. In outfits with more than two pieces, an ‘inner’ theme that differs from the ‘outer’ theme works well. In cases where the top and the bottoms have a different colour theme, it is not a hard and fast rule, but one may generally want the tone of the pants to be equal or lighter in shade than the top.

            In terms of patterning, frankly, *any kind at all* is preferable in comparison with the monotony that you will, again, find it difficult to avoid seeing everywhere.

            In terms of outfitting, short sleeves and open neck area generally give an inherently dressed-down feeling, and in the latter case, can give a feeling of sloppiness even, hence the value of neck decoration. This doesn’t necessarily mean ties mind you. Layering works well here, for example, a sweater with a high collared shirt underneath, or a collared button-up with a collared polo underneath, or an outer layer with a turtlenecked layer underneath, and so on. Scarfs and neckerchiefs fit into this dynamic as well.

            More can be said, but those are the main character beats, and the exact details may be left up to the subject to fill out.

            • Neurotoxin says:

              “Purples and pinks are more situational.”

              “Pinks”? When you say “situational,” I assume you mean “costume party.”

              • Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

                I can see one or two shirts in the closet with a very light shade of pastel, bordering on white, that can work as an inner layer, or by itself in bright sunny conditions, which could technically be described as a shade of ‘pink’, but maybe not what first comes to mind when one might hear the word ‘pink’.

              • Kunning Druegger says:

                I don’t share St. John’s utter disgust for the black/grey motif, but I am a neo-Puritan after all, innit? A pink shirt with a gray suit rocks hard, if you have the body and mind to pull it off. Purple, I don’t know about for me, but many a niggnogg lookin’ like the classiest cottonpicker with the right blend of purple and black or grey.

                • Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

                  Purple is a colour of royalty, and works well in pieces that accentuate a larger ensemble.

                • The Cominator says:

                  Before the columbine ship I liked wearing black all the time in high school and unlike in middle school I was rather well liked in high school.

                • Kunning Druegger says:

                  I prefer sedate earth tones as well, but I am also almost always “on the clock” while others are having a good time, so it fits. I’ll wear particolored double suits if it helps the situation, but I prefer my colors matte and my presence unremarkable.

              • Neurotoxin says:

                Well, you two:

                You do you, and all that.

                • Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

                  Oh no you don’t, i aint gonna that one slide faggit, i’ll be doing you too!


                • Wulfgar Thundercock III says:

                  It is not gay if you are wearing boots.

                • Kunning Druegger says:

                  I have always translated “you do you” as “your retardation is none of my concern, for the pigs of which you speak belong to a farm I do not own.” But you couldn’t have known that.

                • Neurotoxin says:

                  Oh shit, Pseudo has seen through me!

                  (Kunning: I’m pretty sure Pseudo was kidding.)

          • A2 says:

            First of all, you mustn’t look like Stephen Paddack when the time co-, er, that is, always dress above the sandals, shorts, stained T-shirt look. I of course prefer my shooting tweeds when appropriate.

            Jim’s advice is good, though you may not always need tailored clothes to start out. Try dressing like a well-maintained, well-off member of your caste for starters. Clean quality clothes, well-kept quality shoes or boots, etc. Don’t buy ripped jeans as your only pair lol. Be conservative and understated. at the very least until you learn how to be more of a peacock. You may want to buy multiple pairs, you may want to spend a bit more per piece than you’re used to. (Also keep in mind that expensive clothes may not necessarily be sturdier than the cheap stuff.)

            You could try haunting a smaller men’s wear shop (choose one catering to your target look, and that also has some class) and see if the staff can help. This will speed up the learning curve progression. Note that it can be difficult and tiresome to find the right clothes on your own unless you’re a clothes hound or a woman.

            • A2 says:

              Oh yes, and depending on personality, also try to avoid pieces that require fanatical dedication to keeo in shape. Dry clean only, hand wash only, etc etc.

        • London Guy says:

          Biden declared war on American patriots yesterday and [*deleted*]

    • Pax Imperialis says:

      “There are few things more depressing than the sight of grown men wearing nothing but a t-shirt and pants out in public.”

      I’m feeling attacked. I’m a Western Sunbelt Merican and I’m pragmatic. It’s those frigid east coast northerners who fret about suits n’ ties with leather gloves. I’m partly joking. I love suits with gold cufflinks and wish there were more opportunities to wear them, but even blue jeans and a tucked in button up short sleeve shirt is a bit too hot where I live. When I travel north I see a lot more high end male fashion; although, I do agree with you that male fashion is getting worse.

      The entire point of male fashion is to denote status. Men dress up for two different audiences. To denote status to fellow men. To denote status to women. I would argue that since the social environment has become feminine, men are more invested in impressing women than impressing fellow men. Thus, men are far more invested in following female whimsies than showing masculine achievement. And if fashion for women is in the gutter, why should men try hard? However, women’s fashion is in the gutter, and men follow suit.

      The problem of poor men’s fashion stems from not policing female fashion.

      • Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

        I generally prefer long sleeves in most situations – when it is hot it keeps the sun off, and when it is chilly it keeps the wind off. Pioneering men of the old west dressed much the same. Though indeed of course, cooler latitudes also give a wider latitude for creativity.

        The basic thing is that female status is artificially inflated, while male status is artificially repressed, which is reflected in their respective offerings. The man of 2022 dresses like a pauper because he, effectively, does in fact have the status of a pauper, even – or especially rather – if he is formally very rich himself.

    • alf says:

      Yep. Before being a dad I started making my own clothes. My first piece was hella ugly but I intend to return to it when more time. I dislike being a big fashion industry monkey.

      My clothing style is lazy and slightly offensive though. My woman buys me my best clothes but I tend to gravitate towards wifebeaters with prints of hot women. Also I still dream of having dreadlocks one day.

    • Aidan says:

      Mens fashion consists of imitating either priests or warriors. The poor state of fashion today is a result of priestly Marxist larping of the lower class and the replacing of warriors with athletes as the signaling font for physical courage. Western “dress clothes” are a direct memetic descendant of the garb of a puritan preacher.

      Warriors are not allowed to signal refinement, so we have no high-class warrior clothing. The best we can do as rightists is to signal capacity for violence and hint at refinement and taste. Or, while fitting in to roughly conventional norms, hint at the capacity for violence. Interestingly patterned and colored button-downs are what I pair with a generally biker look, but if it is hot, I will just wear a close-fitting t-shirt or wifebeater. In an age of impoverished fashion and worse fitness, my body is higher status than anything I can put on it.

    • not a reactionary says:

      I’ll second Jim’s point ; a simple black t-shirt (appropriately sized, not baggy, tight enough but not too tight) and some jeans will look good on a fit man. If a guy has a Joe Schmo body most everything he wears will make him look like Joe Schmo. I don’t see any reason why men need to be wearing codpieces, or togas, or whatever you’re proposing. Tailored suits are nice, but most men can’t wear tailored suits in everyday life. It’s not what you wear but how you wear it.

      • Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

        >It’s not what you wear but how you wear it.

        You have stockholm syndrome from a lifetime of aesthetic abuse. You, like any others, have lived a life where everything looking like hell is ordinary, and thus likewise think nothing of inflicting your own part of that hell on everyone else with one’s own hellish dress. It is telling that suggesting even the merest of elevations in one’s couture trigger knee-jerk responses of doubling down on pauperism.

  42. Neurotoxin says:

    Commenters at Founding Questions were wondering what the purpose of Biden’s speech was going to be. Judging from his rhetoric so far – Trump and everyone who supports him is an enemy of democracy – the purpose of this speech is to set the stage for the arrest of Trump. And soon after that, the arrest, etc., of Trump supporters.

    • jim says:

      I predicted this for April, May, or June of 2021. [Edit, I wrote 2020 here, typo, intended to write 2021]

      I got the timing badly wrong, but everyone else was predicting the resumption of normality.

      • JJ says:

        The capitol happening was on Jan 6, 2021. Did you mean April, May, or June of 2021? Or did you mean it was supposed to happen in the lead up to the summer riots of 2020?

        • jim says:


          I predicted the crackdown as coming April May June of 2021. The crackdown however, has not really started yet.

      • clovis says:

        You were right, and really everyone should have recognized it had to go this way. Democrats refused to recognize the outcome of the 2016 election and turned the security services on Trump. Then they stole the election in 2020. Stealing it again and declaring political opponents enemies of the state is a fait accompli.

    • Kunning Druegger says:

      I know there is a lot of hollow chest pounding from the Right, but there is also a significant percentage of America that is fully on the Trump train. His base of support was the “Faithful 30%,” the Ride-or-Die niggas that got on board in 2016 and stayed on board. What I am not certain of is whether that is 30% of conservatives, or 30% of Americans…

      If/when the purge-down begins, I think they will ignore the inner cities. No sense riling up the plains apes any more than they are, and they will, at least initially, cheer and hoot as whitey gets carried off by the once-raciss police. But black males secretly love Trump, and I think the only ones that will get hoovered up at first will be domesticated negros and conservative mulattos.

      Many fair-weather fans will ditch their Trump paraphernalia ASAP, but I don’t think that will save them. Covid taught us that there are plenty of informers in every community. It will, as always, come down to demographics, and if an area is red enough, there will be trouble if they attempt to mass arrest. I’m not trying to be excessively optimistic here, but I just can’t see the current Cathedral configuration being very competent at something this distributed and complex. The Feds will focus on the high level targets and states will be tasked with going after the smaller fish.

      • Globalist Power Terminated II says:

        Clownworld’s attempt at a Reign of Terror will be, like everything else in Clownworld, ultra fake and ultra gay.

        Welcome to Current Year.

      • Your Uncle Bob says:

        I took the speech as incitement of Antifa and their fellow travelers to violence. More bash a fash/punch a nazi knockouts for a warmup, also more multi-person kill teams like the one that got Aaron Danielson in Portland and the one that failed to get Kyle Rittenhouse (but may still be distributed and self-organizing rather than top down, at least for public consumption).

        Probably they also want blacks to do more burning and polar bear hunting, but I’m not sure a political speech is enough for them to get the message. Need a another gentle giant or George Floyd, not a speech. But if they do figure it out we’re into South African farm raid territory as well.

        Strangely, a Trump arrest and raids and camps for his supporters might be on the back burner for a while now. Let their bio-leninist street troops run wild with no provable chain of command first. Initial police and fed stance will be stand down for Antifa, arrest anyone who defends themselves.

        So more of what we’ve seen already in Trump election years, only even harder and with less effort to keep the mask on. Until their 87k “IRS” agents can be deployed, then things go to purge/crackdown territory.

        • jim says:

          Yes, that is the plan.

          But their capacity to carry out plans is falling apart, and there are other elite factions who have a different plan.

        • Pete says:

          What they will try to do is, anyone who marches in the streets or otherwise protests will be scanned for facial recognition and have his bank account seized as we saw in Canada.

          They will hope that this inspires you to pick up a gun and shoot up a Wal-Mart or something out of despair, so their soldiers can put you down like a dog while they shake their heads sadly and impose more gun control and other restrictions on whites.

          • Wulfgar Thundercock III says:

            Remember kids, shooting up a Walmart is bad. Instead, find out where your local Federal DA lives and works and make sure he hears your complaints. Peacefully, of course, just like the religion of peace.

    • Neurotoxin says:

      When they arrest Trump – plainly it’s not “if” at this point – they will establish a lockdown order, “in the interest of maintaining peace and stability, and preventing domestic insurrection,” etc.

      What Americans do then will be a key moment in the history of the US. If most people meekly stay in, well, that’s it, I think. (And by the way, it will probably be imposed as a “temporary measure for this one night,” but we all remember “two weeks to flatten the curve,” right?)

      OTOH, if enough of us do as Mitch McConnell (or whoever) recently predicted and riot in the streets, or engage in various forms of no doubt entirely peaceful protest, then exciting possibilities open up.

      Right now, in this moment, I am resolved to ignore any unconstitutional lockdown stay-at-home orders and go out and like, peacefully protest or whatever. Whether my nerve will hold when I’m faced with the reality of it, I have no idea. This is totally new territory.

      • Globalist Power Terminated II says:

        All kinds of interesting things are, or will soon be, entirely possible. =)

      • Kunning Druegger says:

        For better or for worse, I think this one is up to the niggers and sluts. If they stay in and stay quiet, everyone will. If they riot and loot, then the Timid Plurality will feel covered enough to violate the Stay At Home order.

        If they do another Two Weeks to Restore Normalcy, they will lead off with the Blue out in force, hoping and praying the stupid fucking Conservitards back the blue right into the gulag.

        So many ways it could go… rereading what I wrote, it seems pretty thin. On the one hand, all I see are meek obeyers looking for the next thing to comply with. But I also see Trump flags, FJB decals, and plenty of soft dissent. In addition to the Peasants Of Color and roasties, the Karens will will be an influential force. I see it as likely that there will be an army of them shilling for Daddy Government, but I can also see wine aunts with Winchesters gunning down enforcers when the Bota Box runs dry.

        Fuck this timeline lol.

      • Wulfgar Thundercock III says:

        I think a lockdown while they arrest Trump is the point at which you either hoist Old Glory and the black flag, you flee the GAE, or accept all is lost and lay down to die. I do not have the means to flee the collapsing GAE, and I do not want to face St. Peter and have to admit that when America died I was hiding in my basement. I know they will come for me soon enough, so I might as well come for them first.

        • Contaminated NEET says:

          America died decades before you were born, bro.

          • Wulfgar Thundercock III says:

            I do not care about the institutions. Fuck them, let them burn. America is not Congress, or the President, or every single Secretary, Director, or Chief of Staff. America is the Americans and if fighting for them kills me, then I died in good company, for a good cause, and you cannot get a better epitaph than that.

          • Neurotoxin says:

            “America died decades before you were born, bro.”

            This is no longer about luxuries like a peaceful and prosperous Republic. It’s about not being genocided.

            That’s why there’s nothing to lose by engaging in various activities, including, but certainly not limited to, marching around while holding a sign.

            If we do nothing they’re not going to wait until the timing is perfect for us, to make their move; they’re going to do it while they think the timing is perfect for them, i.e. as bad as possible for us. There is no “wait it out.” They’ll use infrared and high-power microphones to verify that you’re in stage-4 sleep at 3:00 am, then they come into your house. Obviously, given the 87K new “IRS agents,” etc., they have the desire and ability to do this long before they enter the “leftists eating each other” phase. Of course they’re going to go after each other eventually; that’s what leftists do. But unless we do something outside the box, we definitely won’t be around for that part.

            • Wulfgar Thundercock III says:

              That is the crux of the matter. Once you know that they are rounding up dissidents, you do not wait. They will come for you, so fuck up their plans and take the fight to them. All of us are marked for death once the genocide starts. It will be about surviving what comes, or making them pay. And remember; they will have no qualms about coming to your house and killing your family. Do unto others… but only once the time is right.

              • Guy says:

                Which is also why, despite my liking Gavin, his fake FBI raid was poor form. Owen Benjamin announced that whole thing was a fake.

              • Dr. Faust says:

                The political moves of Biden are confusing, have become unpredictable. I think my assertion in another thread that these toons are firstly insane and secondly not working in tandem is the best model of prediction we can hope for. Other than a model following historical precedent which is best when predicting the larger turns of fate. These people are not acting within their own interests, seem to be acting against it, and are not coordinated in anything but hate of the opposition. By that I mean their conclusions are reasonable but their antecedent premises are false, have been false for a long time, are thus incongruent with God, and have befuddled them.

                Brandon the Befuddled would be a perfect name to describe this game of clowns.

                • jim says:

                  Biden is these days mostly a deep fake video, and there is more than one elite conspiracy generating these deep fake videos, and when the real Biden appears, more than one conspiracy issuing him his script.

                • Kunning Druegger says:

                  I am nonplussed. You are asserting that Joe Brandon is not speaking in front of people, that what we are watching is a graphical generation? What about the people in attendance?

                  At this point, I guess anything is possible, but if someone threw out that assertion in a discussion/debate, I would assume they were trying to muddy the water or pull a Westboro/Flat Earth type of credibility reduction by association trick.

                • jim says:

                  I have not investigated the extent to which Biden videos are deep fakes, but I checked out one video that was an obvious poorly done deep fake (does not blink, a chronic problem with deep fake videos – it is hard to get the blinks correct.)

                • S says:

                  @Kunning Druegger

                  Stable diffusion subreddit


                  That is freeware that has only been released to the public about 2 weeks now run on computers by hobbyists with minimal post-processing.

                  The fact Biden ranges from wandering after icecream trucks to able to give coherent speeches suggests more then one Biden. In the past we’d assume body double, but these people are untrustworthy and think tech is magic.

                • Kunning Druegger says:

                  I’m not following, but that may be because of intellectual limitations on my end. It looks trippy and cool, but what it doesn’t look like is a political speech occurring outdoors with “in the wild” light being streamed out over the internet and television by myriad camera and recording devices of varying quality and capacity. If he was sitting in an “office” or some other interior location with fixed lighting and a static background, this idea would make more sense. If we only say two flavors of Brandon, dynamic exterior and buffoonish OR static interior and competent, it would not only be more believable, I’d consider it highly likely.

                  Tech decline is bad enough as is, but building effective and powerful LED walls, or using complex and comprehensive motion capture, or doing both while running strong and dumb AI as a finishing touch, would have a massive footprint, in terms of equipment and personnel. Some of the best event technology in the world with highly competent and capable technicians still has glitches, particularly when you add a livestream component.

                  I want to reiterate that I might not be understanding how the whole deep fake thing would work, or what those links are demonstrating.

                • S says:

                  I jumped the gun. I’ve been paying attention to this weird and trippy stuff SD’s been coming out with over the past weeks and assumed the state of the art is better. Sorry- tech optimism got the better of me.

                  Went over the entire speech and it is regular Biden on a teleprompter.
                  He screws up, stops and the gets the line right.

        • Leon says:

          A buddy of mine is getting ready to flee America. I told him if he goes I will go with.

          • London Guy says:

            [*deleted for utter detachment from the reality that is in everyone’s faces*]

            • jim says:

              If you pass the shill test, I will allow a debate on what universe we live in.

              • London Guy says:

                I passed the shill test multiple times before you even asked me, you silly retard.

                • jim says:

                  Not under this email address – thus not under an email address where HR and your FBI supervisor are looking over your shoulder. Maybe someone calling himself London Guy passed it, but I track shills by their email address.

                  Until you pass it under this email address, everything from you, except an attempt to pass the shill test or a response to the comment to which your replied, but failed to respond, is going to be silently deleted.

                  You have nineteen comments under this email address, none of which commit any thought crimes, or even notice that anyone on this blog is discussing thought crimes.

                  “It the Jews”, and “I hate women too” are not thought crimes, provided that the Jews implied are orthodox, or located in Tel Aviv, or are regular small businessmen selling bagels or running a pawnshop, and that you hate women for being wonderful. Is a thought crime if “name the Jew” results in telling us what Soros and Victoria Nuland have been up to. Is a thought crime if the problem with women is that unowned women are unhappy and do destructive and self destructive things, that women are wonderful in their proper sphere, but innately and inherently cause problems outside it.

                  “Gas the Jews” is not a thought crime.

                  Noticing what George Soros and Victoria Nuland have fiat been up to is a thought crime.

      • Contaminated NEET says:

        >they will establish a lockdown order, “in the interest of maintaining peace and stability, and preventing domestic insurrection,” etc.

        This will work extremely well. Our side has zero leadership and zero organization; the enemy controls the state and the information organs. Disorganized and confused conservatards are not going to put up any serious resistance, and any resistance they do manage will be easily quashed and then used to justify further repression. This is not a fight we can win with the resources we have. Please don’t go out there and get yourself locked up or killed. There’s no point in it, and we’ll need you later. The Right can’t do riots; the Left can because they control enforcement and punishment. What works for them absolutely will not work for us.

        >If most people meekly stay in, well, that’s it, I think.

        That’s it, all right. America has been over for decades, maybe even a full century. Don’t sacrifice yourself for a rotting carcass and a bunch of 19th Century propaganda. Right now, the Left is running the table, and this will continue for the foreseeable future, but they are busily destroying the basis of their own power. The question is: what comes next? Stalin II? Total economic collapse? Gradual Brazilification? Opportunities might develop later, but going into the streets is a boondoggle and will remain so until something major changes.

        • Karl says:

          Going into the streets, whether for peacful protesting or rioting, is something lefties have been doing successfully to achieve their aims. I don’t see how it could work for the right. Of course, it might be fun.

          • Red says:

            That’s what the I.VI suckers thought.

          • jim says:

            Rioting works when it is state sponsored.

            A mob versus an organized force gets massacred. For the right to riot successfully, We need a Caesar. And Caesar is only going to show up when he sees he is going to die if he fails to come forward.

            Sulla and Julius Caesar were in obvious and imminent danger of death. Caesar Augustus was not in imminent danger of death, but being a teenager, was less subject to normality bias, and could see death coming from further away, could see he had to rule or die.

          • Neurotoxin says:

            Me: they will establish a lockdown order, “in the interest of maintaining peace and stability, and preventing domestic insurrection,” etc.

            NEET: This will work extremely well.

            We don’t know. We’re in a game-theoretic stag hunt.

            If you’re the only one who like, mostly peacefully protests, then you’re just a lone nut who will affect nothing. If 20 million do that, it’s entirely different. For this reason, if for no other, it’s a bad idea to talk down the idea of energetically protesting.

            By the way, someone has to be wiling to be one of the first movers. If everyone just waits to see what everyone else does, we’re done.

            • Wulfgar Thundercock III says:

              Sometimes all it takes is one person saying, “Fuck these people. We don’t have to live like this.”

              • jim says:

                Cannot do anything interesting without a leader. We await Caesar.

                • Wulfgar Thundercock III says:

                  You can put stress on the system. You can demonstrate the false nature of their myth of invulnerability. You can damage faith in their institutions. You can do all sorts of interesting things. You just cannot expect to survive the doing.

              • Neurotoxin says:

                Sometimes all it takes is one person saying, “Fuck these people. We don’t have to live like this.”

                This is true; I’ve done it. I’ve been the first person to offer a reasonable objection to some stupid new rule that folks at work were proposing. Often, other person(s) will then chime in and agree with you. And I’ve also been that second or third person when someone else spoke up first.

                In the situation we’re anticipating one person won’t be enough, but a sufficiently large number of people…

            • jim says:

              First mover in a stag hunt game with enemy shills and entryists. Not very promising.

              First mover has to be a plausible Caesar. Only model for this sort of thing is Augustus Caesar, who was completely outside the state power structure when he got started. Had enough money to pay enough soldiers to grab some more money, and, far more importantly, had a name that gave him some slight basis for legitimacy.

              • Kunning Druegger says:

                I am not good at math, let’s just get that out there.

                I don’t think we are all playing the same game. I think the elites are playing Stag Hunt and the Commons are trapped in Prisoner’s Dilemma. The outcome of the PD game is contingent upon the results of the choices in SH, but the rewards in SH are all decided within PD.

                • Neurotoxin says:

                  Here’s a quick summary of the situation:

                  We’re in a stag hunt, but not a standard one, because we also have an upcoming Schelling signal: the arrest of Trump.

                • Red says:

                  They certainly want violence when Trump is arrested and if they fail to get it they’ll send their glow niggers out to create it. Without elite leadership it wouldn’t be wise to give them what they want. Trump failed as a leader when he fled, but he might make a good maryr.

                • Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

                  They want violence, but they want it to be isolated and uncoordinated violence.

                  Large scale violence, leaders stepping onto the field to coordinate violence, would mean shit getting Real.

                • Kunning Druegger says:

                  Indeed, St. John. I think the violence can be scattered and uncoordinated at first, because it will distract LEO and create an opportunity for score-settling, looting, and general mayhem and disarray. If it continues, becomes a protracted suspension of normality/social contract, people will begin coordinating out of necessity, creating local then regional confederations. *That* is a set of circumstances conducive to a Caesar or Caesars to rise, stepping up to streamline things or just talking advantage of warriors needing leadership. It is stereotypical American to need the circumstances to dictate action, rather than taking action to set the circumstances. Many who would abstain from “jumping in” if someone deliberately rises to power would go along wholeheartedly if the common perception was that it was borne of necessity, as opposed to executed intentionally.

                  The Cathedral needs just enough violence, or more accurately footage of violence, to unite the sheepdog class behind the banner of Constitutional Preservation. Too much and the infighting on the Left will explode, driving the Grill Class to slip into Hobbesian Dynamics. But the lack of leadership, and leadership potential, on the Right is the ace in the whole for the Cathedral. A leader, or leaders, must rise.

                • The Cominator says:

                  Caesar is not a local warlord in an anarchy tyranny… that is more like how the Daimyo of feudal Japan came about…

            • JJ says:

              The first mover problem is the problem the saints solve. Many lose their lives in this. This is why we venerate them.

              The saint gives up his life to determine the disposition of the enemy. Caesar sees it. Caesar concludes that the enemy is implacable and makes his attack.

              Yes, Caesar is important, but, again, the church venerates saints, not Caesar.

              I think Wulfgar Thundercock III is saying the same thing at

              • Kunning Drueger says:

                Agree. One of the many issues of good times//weak men is that those who may have a martial inclination always want to be a general or an officer or some secret frog SpecOps guy (that meme with the Redditor saying there’s a mistake and the Commissar screaming Get In The Trench comes to mind). No one wants to be a support officer or logistics manager or a slit trench digger.

          • JJ says:

            Strategic ambiguity is your friend. Or, as Jesus Christ puts it, be as subtle as a serpent and as harmless as a dove. As far as I can see, and I speak from direct personal experience, they have no answer to this.

            • Neurotoxin says:

              They have no answer to us just sitting around with our thumbs up our asses? Yeah, we’ve got ’em there.

              • JJ says:

                >They have no answer to us just sitting around with our thumbs up our asses?
                Who is this “us” person you are talking about?

                • Kunning Druegger says:

                  Don’t do that. We are all in this tribe. If Neuro- is feeling blackpilled, it’s your duty to admonish, correct, and support. If he is right, you must contend with readjustment of perspective. Purity Spiraling has its place, but it shouldn’t be invoked over a simple disagreement.

                  If his “us” is misplaced, explain why.

                • Neurotoxin says:

                  JJ, maybe I didn’t understand you. I interpreted your recommendation to be “as harmless as a dove” as to just sit around doing nothing. Even if it is true that that’s our best move right now – which is far from obvious to me – it’s hardly a “Ha, we’ve got ’em now!” move.

                  Or maybe you meant something else.

                • JJ says:

                  My original post was in response to Karl, who was pondering how street-level action could work for the right. I answered that you would need to do it as Christ would have done it, further explictly claiming that I had done so myself.

                  My reading of Neurotoxin’s reply was that Neurotoxin was including me in the set of people who are “sitting around with [their] thumbs up [their] asses,” or possibly including meme warfare in the set the activities whose effect was identical to “sitting around with [one’s thumb] up [one’s ass].” My response to his post is a reference to the old joke from the Lone Ranger:

                  The Lone Ranger and Tonto are riding out in the west, when suddenly hundreds of Indians appear on the horizon. The Lone Ranger says, “looks like we are done for, Tonto.” Tonto replies “who is this ‘we’ person, white man?”

                  This is perhaps not the best joke, as Tonto is clearly outgrouping the Lone Ranger in order to save his own life. So for that I am sorry.

                  The possibility that Neurotoxin was not including me in his tribe seemed rather remote, or if true rather inconsequential, and I was not too worried about it. What you seem most concerned about is that I might not be including him in my tribe. I can understand your concern.

                  Orthodox Christians, as I understand, see their Heterodox brethren as lost sheep, but until such time as those sheep return to the fold are not in communion with them. I am not yet in communion with Orthodoxy, but I am slowly working towards it. The fruits of the Orthodox Christian faith are revealed in Russia’s success in the Ukrainian land. No other branch of Christianity seems to be resisting the evil of the world quite so well; not even very traditional Catholics such as those who celebrate the Latin Mass.

                  But, as you say, this has little to do with a simple disagreement, or, more likely, misunderstanding, and ideas of congregational purity should not really apply to such things. Furthermore, I have no idea what religion Neurotoxin is.

                  The joke makes the most sense if Neurotoxin is despairing as you suspect he is, and that the effect of his comment is to try to include me in his despair or make me join him in his despair. In such a case, if Neurotoxin were given to despair and did not correct himself after the proper Biblical procedures were followed, I would indeed have to outgroup him, spiritually, to save my own soul.

                  My reply, then, was intended to accomplish two things: firstly, to find out precisely what Neurotoxin meant by his post, and, secondly, to admonish him in a slightly humorous way if indeed he was taking to despair.

                • JJ says:


                  To be as “harmless as a dove” means to be harmless physically, at least while certain types of physical action would result in one’s pointless death, injury, or imprisonment. It does not mean that you cannot engage in street-level spiritual and memetic warfare, both of which are devastating the devil and his minions, especially when you also try to be as “subtle as a serpent.”

                • Neurotoxin says:

                  JJ, thanks for the response. I wasn’t thinking nearly that deeply. I just thought you were saying “Just sit around and do nothing, that’ll fix ‘em.” Apparently you were not saying that, so good. Apologies for the misunderstanding.

                  I am not despairing or black pilling. Au contraire, I’m trying to steel myself for a Red Terror which seems both unthinkable and inevitable. I’m trying to be prepared emotionally and in other ways.

                  Furthermore, I have no idea what religion Neurotoxin is.

                  Neither does Neurotoxin! I was raised Christian, went through a long non-religious phase (atheist/agnostic), but the benefits of old-school Christianity are becoming more obvious over time. Also, I have seen some very weird shit, but that’s a whole ‘nother blog.

                  On the memeing thing, a response to you and Jim and Red far above:

                  One issue with this for me is that it’s seductive, too seductive. Part of me WANTS to do exactly that, just keep memeing, but… I fear the appeal that this has to two vices: cowardice and laziness. I’m pretty sure I’m not a coward (though it’s not like I’ve ever been seriously tested), but I damn well KNOW that I have procrastination issues, which, I have to face it, is a form of laziness. And so when people say, “Don’t do anything overt yet,” I see the point but I have to watch myself. What are my motivations here? Am I seeing the point for the right reasons?

                  I know you guys – JJ, Jim, Red, etc. – have your hearts in the right place. Obviously. But when someone says, “Don’t do anything yet,” I swear I can practically SEE the serpent whispering his seductive councils in my ear. If the Devil exists he knows exactly what our vices are, right? He knows exactly what he has to say to have the highest chance of getting you to do the wrong thing.

                  God, if you’re there, help me.

                • Wulfgar Thundercock III says:

                  I will add my voice to the council of friends saying, “Wait, spread our ideas, and do not act.” Now is not the time, and Jim is right on that. We still need to wait, and prepare the field for a leader.

                  I also agree with you that once the left wing death squads go out, that it is time to go hot, leadership be damned. Part of that is my particular circumstance, where due to me having been in military intelligence. They are not going to leave someone like me alone, so going out shooting is better than being shot in the back and dumped in a ditch or mass grave. Maybe you do not need to worry as much as I do.

                • Red says:

                  @Wulfgar I think the order to disarm the public will go out before the death squads. Failure to disarm the public will result in a lot of dead enforces no matter how large of an army of IRS thugs they hire.

                • Kunning Druegger says:

                  The tribe to which I was referring is the Jim Tribe. Many, even most, JT members have a deeper philosophical or spiritual allegiance, and that is fine, as we (meaning me) discovered a while back that the Jim Tribe is a collection of leaders scattered all over with varying degrees of status and influence.

                  The only purity testing required here is decided by Jim and Regulars, and that is when shill tests get deployed. So long as we are on the same page regarding women, race, and political ur-theory, all other details are secondary.

                  Your Tonto joke was hilarious.

                  I elaborated on my predictions for how It will Go Down in this effort post:

                  I beleive they ahve already begun to build the investigative apparatus for identifying and tracking thought criminals, though it is not ready to be deployed. Indeed, it will never actually be *ready* as Sh’neekwa can’t build, but it will still be deployed, and the Dark Brandon speech was one or more factions jumping the gun. Auron Macintyre just had a breddy gudd stream on the speech* and one of the many things he said is that once the Message goes out, it cannot be unsaid, no matter how much they want to or try to walk it back, as the Voices That Speak will repeat and amplify, adding their own signature, twist, or spin in whatever way they believe will enhance their status or standing. Biden has declared open season on MAGAfolks, and we are now waiting to see which department in the Executive branch will act first, though it might also be some private organization or some “””grassroots””” group.

                  I hope this is not fedpoasting, but I fear that if “we” wait for official death squads and highly publicized raids, it will be too late.


                • The Cominator says:

                  Kunning they may attempt a reign of terror but it will be incompetent and fake and gay. Leftists will be denouncing each other for being MAGA (for bullshit reasons) and whether said denunciation are acted upon will be random.

                  The real problem is that you aren’t going to be able to count on anything close to a functional economy.

                • Kunning Druegger says:

                  Agreed Com, the defection on the left angle is obvious but I didn’t really think about it. I think there will be a lot of normies/greengrocers scrambling for cover and it will add confusion to the fact that it will not be Left v. Right, but rather System v. any threats/challengers, real or imagined. They are far from competent, but equally far from powerless. Like some hulking retard with a length of garden hose whipping around, there will be a ton of collateral damage as Freak the Mighty swats at the hornets pouring from the nest they decided to attack with no real plan in place.

                • Neurotoxin says:

                  “they may attempt a reign of terror but it will be incompetent and fake and gay.”

                  Com, we cannot afford to assume this. Leftists managed to slaughter 100 million people in the 20th century.

                • Wulfgar Thundercock III says:

                  That is true, Neurotoxin, but look at the masculinity of the leftists then as compared to now. It is not even a contest. They might have been effeminate or unmanly for their time, but GAE leftists are probably the faggiest, least masculine men in all of human history.

                • The Cominator says:

                  “Com, we cannot afford to assume this. Leftists managed to slaughter 100 million people in the 20th century.”

                  It was run by masculine Pale of Settlement Jews, Chechens etc and even then they mostly killed each other and mostly killed innocent people by destroying the economy.

                • Neurotoxin says:

                  “look at the masculinity of the leftists then as compared to now. It is not even a contest. …GAE leftists are probably the faggiest, least masculine men in all of human history.”

                  Thank you for this. Com, ditto.

                • Kunning Druegger says:

                  I agree with both Wulfgar and Com’s analysis, but it must also be said that, as it stands right now, the feminized leftoids in power have plenty of muscular, physically dangerous sheepdog thralls to do their bidding. That doesn’t mean they always will, but it does mean that we are not merely up against the poindexters and faggots in the managerial class.

                • Red says:

                  agree with both Wulfgar and Com’s analysis, but it must also be said that, as it stands right now, the feminized leftoids in power have plenty of muscular, physically dangerous sheepdog thralls to do their bidding.

                  I noticed that as well. Some of the American guys who took off for the Ukraine to help make it safe to rape little boys and have gay pride parades where in pretty decent shape.

                  The enforcement arm of the state still has some power. Next generation is likely to be nothing but faggots and women but we are not there yet.

                  What’s in it for these sheep dogs? They have not know that their masters hate and want to destroy them.

                • Wulfgar Thundercock III says:

                  Even those masculine men are heavily feminized compared to historical men. Those muscular, dangerous men were bullying tribal cavemen, not fighting a real war. Look what happened to them when some of them went to fight for Ukraine. They were looking at a real fight, where the other side has artillery and air support, too, and they did not lioe that one bit. When they could not shoot an enemy who was massively outclassed they bravely, bravely ran away. Meanwhile, the Russians have taken more casualties in six months than America did after two wars over two decades, and they fight on.

                  They lack faith. They believe in nothing but empty t-shirt slogans and sanitized viking memes. They have nothing to prop them up when the going gets tough. They will fall in under the Cross and Old Glory, or they will break, because we have faith and they do not.

                • Red says:

                  Interesting point Wulfgar. I remember the FBI and ATF taking glory pics in front of the burned Branch Davidians compound where they’d just got done using armored vehicles to barbecue women and children to death. They where taking tough guy poses in front of the ashes like they’d actually done something brave. They were in shape but they were weak and evil men with no stomach for an actual fight.

                • Kunning Druegger says:

                  We must also accept the that the side of Right and Good is not in fighting trim, not in any holistic sense. There are those among us in peak condition I am sure, but there are lots of us with hearts in the right place but bodies not, or bodies in the right place but brains lagging behind. The Cathedral is counting on a quick victory, so they replicate memes that reinforce the “inevitableness” of their victory, and then fall sway to their own propaganda. I am convinced this is what happened in 2016. So it will be a numbers game: numbers of bodies, numbers of tech toys, numbers of incompetent leaders, and numbers of days, weeks, months, and years of protracted struggle. The GAE lost in AFG well before 2021, but it wasn’t obvious to all until much later. the timeline in Ukraine *seems* shorter, but we can’t really know that just yet. The longer “it” goes, the more Faith matters. When it’s asymmetrical, excess capital can assuage a lot of faithlessness. At no point was the Taliban going to invade the US, same with Iraq, Haiti, Grenada, Lebanon, Vietnam, and even Germany. So the Cathedral has no institutional capacity for what a civil unrest scenario does to people, infrastructure, and institutions.

                  Time is their greatest enemy, they thing they cannot beat. But the bloodletting that implies is actually physically painful for me to consider.

                  Red, the sheepdogs firmly believe that the current crop of GAE leadership is temporary, that they will get voted out and a new Reagan will come, or some other dumb shit. But this only comes out if you press them hard (don’t do this, it never ends well). Mostly, they just don’t think about it. Every enforcement action is justified because if it wasn’t, they wouldn’t have been given the assignment. Every target/perpetrator is a bad guy, because if they weren’t, they wouldn’t be targeted. It really is that simple with the ones that, on paper, should be very aware that they are being used as SonderKommandos.

              • jim says:

                Wars are usually won before they are fought.

                You don’t just pile in and start shooting.

                Need a leader and need a faith.

                The faith is taking shape. Christian Nationalism.

                The leader, however is not yet apparent. Trump flunked out when he called the lawyers instead of the militia, and then ran away when the militia showed up anyway.

                So, till the time arrives, it’s meme warfare. Which is highly effective in preparing the ground for full warfare.

                • Neurotoxin says:

                  “You don’t just pile in and start shooting.
                  Need a leader and need a faith.”

                  The last thing I want is to pile in and start shooting. But once they start coming for us, we don’t have a choice. At that point, the question of whether we have a leader is irrelevant; your options are to fight back or to simply sit there and let them kill you.

                • JJ says:

                  So, till the time arrives, it’s meme warfare.

                  Exactly so.

                • Globalist Power Terminated II says:

                  P-PR-PRAISE GNON!

                • alf says:

                  But once they start coming for us, we don’t have a choice.

                  They are evil, malicious and opportunistic. They will go for the low hanging fruit. Like everyone here, surely you are also making preparations so that you will not be the low hanging fruit.

                • Neurotoxin says:

                  I agree with y’all that right now is not the time to do anything out of the ordinary… but Trump could be arrested any time.

                  Hell, it could be that he already has been as I write this sentence. Could be any other time before he can get the GOP 2024 nomination (though why they don’t just fraud him out of that I don’t know).

                  alf: “Like everyone here, surely you are also making preparations so that you will not be the low hanging fruit.”

                  Yes, doing what I can.

                • JJ says:

                  Trump could be arrested any time.

                  Trump’s Truth Social is still banning people whom Gab accepts. Trump’s supporters still rot in the dungeons of D.C. If Trump is captured it is entirely his own fault.

                  Trump is not your problem.

            • alf says:

              as Jesus Christ puts it, be as subtle as a serpent and as harmless as a dove. As far as I can see, and I speak from direct personal experience, they have no answer to this.

              Well put, mirrors my experience.

              Kill with kindness.

              • Wulfgar Thundercock III says:

                To everything, there is a time. A time to kill with kindness and a time to kill with unkindness. A time for peace and a time for war.

                • alf says:

                  When the time comes, we shall strike without mercy. But as Jim wisely says, now is not that time.

                  Now is the time for preparations. For instance, never too late to start a family, Wulf (-:

        • London Guy says:

          > The Right can’t do riots; the Left can because they control enforcement and punishment. What works for them absolutely will not work for us.


          • London Guy says:

            “Unresponsive” my ass.

            You censor more truth than Twitter or Facebook, you pathetic faggot.

            • jim says:

              A handful of our guys could wipe out antifa and BLM without raising a sweat, as Kyle and many others have demonstrated.

              But then they would get the treatment that Kyle and many others have received. Which was the point of the comment to which you replied, but which point you ignored and failed to respond to.

              And from here on I am going to silently delete everything from you except a response to that point or an attempt to pass the shill test.

      • A2 says:

        Any minor or short-lived protests will be handled by official forces withdrawing, then, when things have calmed down, they will come back and use the surveillance recordings to figure out the mass arrests.

    • Red says:

      They’ll stage a false flag terrorist attack either right before the or more likely after the arrest. PF or Proud boys will be the go to fed groups for it. After that mass arrests.

      • Red says:

        That is assuming they’re capable of it. They fucked up I.VI pretty badly, utterly failing to get the right optics for it despite having everything in their control. I doubt their false flag terrorist attacks will be better organized.

    • Mister Grumpus says:

      They just had to have the two White marines standing behind him too.

    • Aidan says:

      Forgive the faggy leftist source, but this is how the cake is baked. That LE is outsourcing this capability to a private third party suggests that their innate surveillance capabilities have materially declined. Looks like a combination of facial rec and geolocation is the best they got now. Like Jim said, low-hanging fruit. Leaving one’s phone at home and obscuring one’s face now likely sufficient for real world opsec.

    • Leon says:

      It was brought up on founding questions that this may be a call to the various factions of the left to start some infighting, as the only thing the left fears is other leftists. If so, how many factions of the left are there, what can they be grouped up/ labeled as, and what troops do they have?

      • jim says:

        When leftist struggles go physical, the outcome is apt to be surprising to everyone, including leftists. The left has conspiracies inside their conspiracies.

  43. Cloudswrest says:

    Interesting but not unexpected development. Although in this case the customers did opt in. But probably not optional in the future. In any case it’s trivial to “hot wire” thermostat leads. If this happened to me it would take me all of 15 seconds to pull off the thermostat and add a jumper.

    • Kunning Druegger says:

      Tbqhfamalam that’s fucking hilarious. Though, who here doesn’t have a smart phone? I would not be surprised if it is more than a few, but it is pure facepalm whenever I hear good ol’ boys blathering on about staying off lists and being “secure” while they are wholly owned by their carrier. I’d genuinely love to go internet free, but I cannot figure how to do it with work and pastime necessities.

      • Wulfgar Thundercock III says:

        I’m on so many lists from my military time that I suspect if I were to try and minimize my profile it would attract more attention, not less.

  44. Pax Imperialis says:

    NPR be like: “Guys, guys! It’s the 3 C’s. Covid, Climate Change, and Conflict. That’s why we are having food shortages. Covid inhibited planting by making farmers sick. Climate is decreasing yields. Those evil Russians are blocking Ukrainian food export which is why we don’t have food. Totally nothing to do with our policy on natural gas, our push of green tech, lock downs, or our foreign policy and our self imposed import ban of Russian gas.”

    Is listening to NPR similar to the daily Pravda reading experience?

    • Varna says:

      Today’s Pravda is MSNBC-tier, only pro-Kremlin.
      And without the Rainbow Fag’s Burden civilizational agenda of course.

      I am announcing to my frens here that I’m going underground for at least a month, maybe more.

      Good luck to everyone and see you guys later.

      • Kunning Druegger says:

        Take care friendo. I guess we should get use to this. You will be missed.

      • Mayflower Sperg says:

        Quick question before you go: Are there any good Russian-language right-wing discussion forums out there?

  45. Red says:

    Anglin is so based these days:

    I’m sure the woman set this up, because she wanted the guy dead. When she’s asking “Dad, is he trying to kill me?” she’s implying he’s trying to kill her and the father must use deadly force.

    The lad didn’t have a gun, he wasn’t there to kill anyone – he was just catching feelings and was probably going to break in to start crying and begging her.

    It’s beta. I mean, beating up women is alpha in a normal situation, but not these days. These days, you’re going to go to prison for beating a bitch up, and if you get all emotional, you can end up shot to death.

    If it was my daughter who had been out whoring and screwing guys over, I would have used the opportunity to also kill her for the sake of my own honor. Or opened the door and shoved her out and let the boyfriend catch the murder charges.

    • Pax Imperialis says:

      On the other hand the lad did touch the father’s property without permission and I’m not just talking about the door.

      • Red says:

        She was spoiled goods. Marry her off to the boy or do as the bible commands when a daughter is a harlot in her fathers house.

        • Pax Imperialis says:

          It’s been a long time since I looked at Daily Stormer, 5 or 6 years. When did it adopt the Anime/Cartoony aesthetic?

          • Leon says:

            I think a year or two ago after the site kept getting shut down and he had to move from site to site.

  46. Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

    “Ordinary Americans are just so upset they aren’t getting their baby-murder anymore” seems to be the figleaf they’re going with to remove outer party members from their seats at the table. Sarah Palin ‘narrowly edged out’ in the special election in Alaska.

    • Wulfgar Thundercock III says:

      All states are blue states now.

    • Red says:

      That’s why I I’m wondering if over turning Roe vs Wade was a cathedral plan from the get go.

    • Red says:

      The Gaia Demon is cursing us with drought because not enough babies are being sacrificed to her.

      • Varna says:

        Lol. Yes, also not enough whites renouncing their evil worldly possessions, and not enough schoolkids becoming sacred tranny prostitutes for wise and kindly nigs’n’pakis.

        It is a complex issue, saving the world is.

    • Pax Imperialis says:

      Mary Peltola doesn’t look native. She almost looks White. Her father is a Ward H. Sattler. Sattler Sattler Sattler…

      How curious.

    • smurf says:

      Palin blew her chances starting with that nonsense about Paul Revere riding to warn the British.

      It’s not hard to say “yeah I got the words tangled, he rode to warn the colonists to stop the British and we need to do the same” but she couldn’t do that. Visibly doubling down on obvious untruth torpedoes any kind of public trust.

      • jim says:

        Like all real Americans, Sarah Palin knew that when the British caught Paul Revere, he warned the British their attempt to seize the people’s guns would be resisted by deadly force. Something that real Americans regularly do in today’s conflict with our government.

        Since the chattering classes and the educationists have erased the British attempt at gun control from the ride of Paul Revere, they were ignorant of this, making themselves look hilariously stupid. All the gunnie voters knew what Sarah Palin was talking about.

        In that incident, Sarah Palin once again demonstrated herself vastly better educated that the staff of the New York Times, though the staff of the New York Times define a “good” education as one that teaches the required lies, and in that incident they demonstrated that they learnedly knew the lies, and Sarah Palin knew the truth.

  47. Jamesthe1st says:

    Now there is an entire state capital city in the US that doesn’t have running water with a Shaniqua in charge of the water department. Things seem to be falling apart fast.

  48. Pax Imperialis says:

    Minor rant, 78 hours without sleep and counting, apologies if this is a schizopost. Jim blog relevant stuff at the end.

    I’m a slightly mixed race American that looks 100% East Asian. I grew up in a moderately blue college city of around 1 million people in a fairly red state. I live in a majority White suburb. I went to school in a heavily White school system. The few ‘Black’ kids were actually mulattoes. I’m also fairly well traveled having been to many parts of what could be called Old America. Rural or small town America inhabited by Americans of old WASP stock. A surprising number of East Asians are also sprinkled around in those areas.

    The first and only time I personally felt racial hostility direct at me was from a fully Black college kid who had a little too much to drink and was looking for a fight with, in his words, “a fucking Asian.” Luckily his White friend managed to calm him down and violence was avoided. In retrospect it reminded me of guys who walk down the street with a pit-bull on a leash. Is that why high status White men tend to have that one Black friend? More-so, all the other incidents of racism I’ve seen involved wealthier Whites hating on ‘trailer trash.’ I’ve traveled through some of the extremely poor, mostly White, New Mexico rural areas full of ‘trailer trash’ and all I saw where decent people trying to live in a world they don’t understand anymore. They were also happy to sell chile peppers and beer to me. I even nearly caught my first and only, speeding related, felony in a small, nearly all White, New Mexican town. The court was happy to dismiss… is that the privilege I hear liberals complain about so often? But I digress.

    Point is, my experience in America, as someone of Asian genetic background, has been highly pleasant. The majority of other Asians of my generation and younger appear to disagree and it’s throwing me for a loop. Like the world got turned upside down. The ‘Stop Asian Hate’ movement is bizarro world on crack.

    Nearly every single ‘Asian Hate’ incident of assault or murder had a Black perpetrator. Those statistics showing 150% to 2000% increases in attacks on Asian-Americans came from cities like New York City where it went from 2 to 20. It might as well be an accounting error. Overall crime with Asian victims, and the demographic committing it, did not change outside of previous general trends. How do so many Asians go to “White people are racist” explanation?

    The only major ‘Asian Hate’ incident with a White perpetrator was the 2021 Atlanta spa shootings. The names of the spas sounds like brothels, the workers look like prostitutes, the spas themselves look like brothels, and there are a long list of arrests and investigations resulting in convictions for prostitution. One of the misbegotten children of the dead “message therapists” said his mother never said what her work was… The spas are clearly brothels, and hookers ending up dead is as old as the profession; however, the “Asian community” goes to “White supremacy and racism” as the explanation. The shooter, Robert Long, also killed a White woman, a White man, and injured a Hispanic man. Unless Whites and Hispanics are Asian too I doubt this was racially motivated. Long also had a history of a sexual dysfunction and deeply held religious convictions.

    I would have been perfectly happy for this incident to be swept under the rug because brothels are shameful and the world doesn’t need to have this shoved in its face. The “Asian community,” in all its wisdom, decided to push it to the forefront such that everyone would see it and then they had the gall to suggest that there was no evidence of prostitution. Damaging the Asian brand in America just wasn’t enough, they had to also gaslight everyone as well.

    The other, most asinine, bullshit I’ve seen recently was the idea that it’s racist to ask Asians where they are from. I ask people all the time where they are from. Most people, and especially Whites, are happy to oblige since they can boast about their X% heritages and how they ended up in America or a particular state. I’m happy to answer where I’m from for the same reason “I too have 1% Native American my fellow Indian Elizabeth Warren.” The ‘nation was built by immigrants’ mythos is 20th century Americana at it’s finest along with Zippo lighters.

    Bring up any of the inconsistencies in the blame White people argument to the “Asian community” and they accuse one of “internalizing racism and White supremacy.” Oh and you better support affirmative action for Blacks at your own detriment. So not only does the community that is suppose to have my back is undermining the brand and gaslighting me, they actively stab me in the back. The “Asian community” would accuse me of self hatred of my “Asianness” or what ever that means, when in reality I just hate the people, some who are Asians, that are trying to shit up my highly pleasant life.

    I have a more general view that doesn’t necessarily run counter to Jim’s theory. The Asian American vote was once fairly 50-50. Most Asians live in California or other big blue cities. California was once just another regular American state where you could have a decent life style. As California became more and more communist and terrible to live in, the communist mentality took over among it’s inhabitants. The “if I can’t have nice things neither can you” which becomes “if I must suffer then you too must suffer” which culminates in “if I’m starving so must you.” The mentality is pan-racial as evidenced by Soviet Union, Venezuela, Cuba, China, and I think is a large factor why East Asians have increasingly voted democrat, but more importantly why California is in a self destructive race to the bottom. “If we must have shit electrical grid with rolling black outs and mandated electrical vehicles that you can’t even charge, then so does the rest of the country.”

    LA voters will soon vote on a law that compels hotel owners to house homeless people alongside paying guests.

    • The Cominator says:

      Leftism spread among Asians because like women they are conformists (at least when non conformity risks ostracism) at heart.

      People going leftist due to crabs in a bucket thinking is just another good reason that if we get a chance there should be no mercy.

      • Pax Imperialis says:

        Asian American conformity has been decreasing over time. The newer generations have no concept of saving face. On personality tests, the more acculturated score more similar to White Americans than the less acculturated by big margins.

        Leftism in the Asian American population has increased in spite of decreasing conformity. I don’t think this is a problem of conformist pathology. I think this is a problem of liberal American cities bringing out the absolute worst out of people. You can find a large number of cities that are 75% White or greater where the Whites are voting democrat at similar or even higher levels than Asians.

        Asian Americans are voting extremely similar to White alone people in Portland, Oregon for example. The liberal Whites resides in the cities. The conservative Whites escape to the suburbs or largely reside in the rural. The liberal Whites have gotten increasingly liberal over time. The conservative Whites haven’t changed much at all. The vast majority of Asians reside in the cities. The rise in their liberalism has tracked White liberalism.

        Another point against the idea of conformist personality being the cause is how many of these Asian Americans are agitating for political and social change back in Asia that has nothing to do with Asian politics or society. Things like advocating BLM in South Korea.

        NRx needs a solution to the City Question (CQ). The CQ is many orders of magnitude larger than the JQ ever was. Solving the CQ likely also goes a long ways to dealing with the WQ. The bastion of Soviet Communism was in the cities. It was the kulaks who paid the price.

        • Varna says:

          The system has a tendency to hijack pre-existing instincts and social mechanisms and to redirect the energy into the *needed* directions.

          Perhaps the younger Asian Americans are behaving like the Eastern European inteligentsia, whose combination of a superiority complex toward the “natives” and an inferiority complex toward the “holy west elites” has produced a globohomo cargocultism.

          Anyway, cannot condone long stretches without sleep unless a life and death situation. Get sleep man:)

        • The Cominator says:

          The answer to the city question is that when leftists are drawn and quartered, flayed and broken on the wheel, and burned and boiled alive it will be in public and in the cities.

          • Globalist Power Terminated II says:


            • Pax Imperialis says:

              A bloody short term solution and then what? Entropy away towards leftism again? We need steady state solutions. Cities inherently create problems with space. Men need to own space to be men. Cities increase the cost of space such that many men never own space. Men who own nothing protect nothing and destroy out of spite.

              Cities also break down traditions of virtue. Too much anonymity prevents fraternal bonds that regulate and pass down morality and ethics. A rat race to ever greater degeneracy.

              Yet for all the problems cities create, nations can’t live without cities. Centralized hubs of power are advantageous even if detrimental in the long run. And cities are so entrenched into our concept of nations that undoing them would be a herculean task.

              Cominator solution would require a permanent state of war which is something the right has never done well. Every anticommunist regime purged a few and then stopped all together. South Korea, Taiwan, Chile, Spain, the list goes on and on. All fell to progressive (soft communism) forces a couple of generations down the road.

              • jim says:

                Cities are not the problem. Republics are the problem. The cycle of history is that good Kings create a virtuous elite. A virtuous elite finds it can run thing just fine and do not need a King to maintain good behaviour and social cohesion. So they dispense with the King. But are unable to maintain the elite virtue necessary for a Republic to exist.

                • Pax Imperialis says:

                  Spengler wrote of cities (I admit I might be a Spengler shill):

                  “Long ago the country bore the country-town and nourished it with her best blood. Now the giant city sucks the country dry, insatiably and incessantly demanding and devouring fresh streams of men, till it wearies and dies in the midst of an almost uninhabited waste of country.”

                  The history of cities has always been of unsustainability. Growth was historically fueled by the rural migrating to cities, or in Rome’s case the relocation of slaves.

                  “The provinces are now everything whatsoever — land, town, and city — except these two or three points. There are no longer noblesse and bourgeoisie, freemen and slaves, Hellenes and Barbarians, believers and unbelievers, but only cosmopolitans and provincials. All other contrasts pale before this one, which dominates all events, all habits of life, all views of the world.”

                  We see this today with voting patterns. Everything is determined by urban vs rural.

                  The cycle of history shows change in regime from monarchy to democracy with stages in-between. The cycle of history also shows changes in the balance of power between rural and cities that coaligns with form of regime.

                  Cities are a problem. Republics are a problem. The values of virtuous Kings originate from rural rather than the urban. Trump, for all his urban tendencies, loved and admired the rural over the urban. The extreme progression of the urban threatens to endangers the ability to draw upon the rural in the future.

                  A good king and a virtuous elite are going to have to deal with this problem.

                • jim says:

                  The internet has made big cities economically irrelevant. Production and distribution of real goods bypasses big cities as much as possible. Everything that gets delivered to cities is tribute paid by the real economy to the state and the FIRE economy, they are no longer distribution centres. They exist because the powerful like to be able to speak to each other in person, so big cities exist to provide services to ruling elite.

                  If we have a feudal system, we get a distributed elite. Poof. Megalopoli go away. We may still have some port city megalopoli, which have a genuine distribution functionality, but there is a limit. A well functioning civilization will build more ports, rather than make a small number of existing ports ever more gigantic. Above a certain size, gigantic ports do not work very well, and most existing ports are far past that limit.

    • Adam says:

      Diversity + proximity = war.

      We need fairly segregated spaces, with trade and cultural protocols tailored for the specifics of each race. Only way to build trust, and avoid such a mess.

      I don’t know that you could say the opposite of leftism is trust, but the opposite of leftism is something like that which builds trust.

      As men we do not really need friends. Not the way women and children need friends. We need men we can trust.

      I realize I am not saying anything new, just pointing it out.

      • Karl says:

        I don’t understand your point. Sure, we need men we can trust. The men I can trust are my friends.

        What is the difference between “friends” and “men we can trust”?

        • S says:

          Probably just different variations in the term trust. In a functioning society, should be able to trust that walking into a hospital won’t get you murdered by the doctor.

          Going beyond the minimum is a friend.

        • Adam says:

          I have a lot of normie NPC friends, blue and purple pilled guys. Guys that are fun to hang out with, have a beer with. But they will all fold under a little pressure.

          We need a Cesar, a high priest, a faith. A mission, a hierarchy, a chain of command. That will build the kind of trust we need, and I need.

        • Vendat Tunicam says:

          Aristotle describes three types of friendship. They are friendship based on utility, friendship based on pleasure and friendship based on virtue.

          A friendship based on utility is one which I may develop with a business partner or a neighbor with whom I trade vegetables and advice. These are the most common and the quickest to dry up. A friendship based on pleasure is one which I may develop over a shared love of cards and liquor or a friend I meet to go hiking with. As long as you share the same interests and activities you’ll keep such friends around. A friendship based on virtue is one which I may develop over the course of a lifetime – these are the friends I call at two in the morning to bring a shovel and a garbage bag.

          Everybody has lots of friends. For most people not more than a handful will come help you at two in the morning.

          • Pax Imperialis says:

            “friendship based on virtue”

            Thanks for pointing this out. I think this is a major reason why Asians in America, and many Whites as well, have gone left even though Asians have integrated well into American life. Most friendships in America are based on pleasure. Some on utility.

            Friendships based on virtue are near nonexistent. Fraternities are less about fraternal virtue and all about drunken pleasure. Men only societies like the Freemasons have been forgotten and hollowed out. Churches, schools, workplaces, regular daily life have all become spiritually female. City inhabitants (most Asians live in cities) are especially vulnerable.

            I think that maybe that’s why organizations like the Proud Boys exploded in membership so quickly. There’s a complete void of male fraternity based on virtue in standard American life, but a desire for virtue based fraternity remains.

    • Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

      It’s the same mode of thought that saw perfidous Albion ally itself with the ottoman dunecoons against their cousins in the Czardom – to their ultimate detriment.

      The invidious impulse sees the tallest, the greatest, the grandest things around, and thinks to itself not, ‘i should emulate/align with/advocate that’, but instead thinks, ‘i should bring down that’.

      It perceives any outbreaks of greatness as threats to be removed, and at the limit, perceives greatness itself as an evil to be destroyed, and makes common band with all other minds of similar bent in this ad-venture.

      • Pax Imperialis says:

        As perfidious Albion was in the Crimean war, Austria Hungary’s actions completely surpassed Albion. They get help from the Russians to put down the Hungarian revolution of 1848 only to side with their historical enemy the Turks against the Russian.

        • Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

          Such is the dynamic.

        • Jehu says:

          Human beings don’t do gratitude very well. The best among us fake it reasonably well, but very few of us actually feel it in our gut. That’s why Franklin and others tell you to make someone like you better, get THEM to do YOU a favor, not the other way around.

          Pretty much nobody but people ‘on the spectrum’ (and honestly, not even most of them) work like the social diplomatic model that we teach pretty much everyone but salesmen. That social diplomatic model (crudely phrased as if you’re nice to X they’ll be nice to you) is that people work kind of like an integrator, summing up all your positive and negative actions toward them and their feelings about you is that integral, perhaps run through a smoothing filter emphasizing more recent actions.

          The only good thing about said model is that it’s easy to code for computer games, but it bears no resemblance to how neurotypical people work. We are selfish (some of us more so than others) AND ungrateful. Maybe some fantasy races or alien races are less ungrateful, but to the best of my knowledge none of us are conducting diplomacy with them.

    • Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

      A whirling salami-slicer of leveling, opportunistically cutting down every upgrowth of human species, until eventually the gyrations have ground all down to meat kneaded in mud, the decomposing remains of a cosmic accident feeding the carrion eaters, in yet another silent solar system.

      • Globalist Power Terminated II says:


        • Pax Imperialis says:

          Potential Fermi paradox solution. One of the more horrifying ones.

          • jim says:

            The Dark Forest solution to the Fermi Paradox requires a civilization killing rifle – the capacity to shoot bullets at near the speed of light and hit a distant planet. Which is well beyond current technology, but not very hard at all. The acceleration is relatively easy, it is the deceleration for a soft landing that is hard. If you do not care about a soft landing, if you intend a hard landing, considerably less hard.

            You launch a very large very thin mirror with extremely powerful lasers. After reaching near light speed, it divides into a collection of smaller, but still quite large, mirrors, and each smaller mirror does a Miura-ori fold into a compact impossible to detect projectile.

            But I don’t think advanced civilizations will be planet bound, I don’t think a civilization capable of being a threat to its neighbours will be planet bound. I expect and intend that we will settle the Oort cloud, which will make it very difficult to kill us.

            If you attack a distant and little known advanced civilization on sight and fail to kill it, you are in for a world of hurt. So a little conversation would be a good idea.

            The technology for planet killer near light speed bullets is a long way off. The technology for long range interstellar communication is readily achievable.

            • Wulfgar Thundercock III says:

              If Terra can only support 500 billion people, it will not be long afterwards that Mankind will be more prevalent in orbital habitats and low-g planetoids/moons than on Terra. if you do not have a weapon capable of wiping out an entire solar system, then you had best start by talking.

            • Cloudswrest says:

              and each smaller mirror does a Miura-ori fold into a compact impossible to detect projectile.

              Even if it were possible to detect, it would make little difference, assuming it’s coming in right behind it’s light front. Although you might see the acceleration lasers well in advance (Mote In God’s Eye). Maybe they could laser illuminate the sails a few milliradians off axis with the sails tacking. That way the target civilization would not see the light.

              The quickest way to eliminate a whole solar system is to detonate the sun into a supernova. That way everything out to a number of light years is toast.

              • Cloudswrest says:

                Interesting factoid, if the sun were to supernova, no human would ever see it, even briefly. The supernova starts in the core and the hypersonic semi-relativistic shock wave takes a few minutes to reach the surface, but the neutrinos from the explosion radiate out immediately at the speed of light, virtually unimpeded by the intervening mass of the star.

                While neutrinos hardly react at all with matter, the flux is so high that the reaction with chlorine atoms is enough to instantly boil salt water, including the salt water in your brain. Everybody’s head would explode like the unfortunate residents of Herculaneum long before anything visible happened to the sun.

              • jim says:

                Making a star go supernova is likely to be difficult, because you would have to do something to the core involving a gigantic amount of energy, and the core is enormously well shielded.

                Send the projectiles to the target on a very slight angle, rather than a straight line, then the target will not see the lasers driving them. You send them up to high speed slightly off target, and then change their course slightly so that they are now heading to target from a slight angle to line of sight to target.

                They will approach the target in very close to line of sight direction, because you will be adjusting course while your projectiles are still quite close to you and quite far from the enemy, but your lasers will be substantially off line of sight direction, because your projectiles will be substantially off line of sight direction while close to you.

                Destroying a whole lot of targets by direct impact is likely to be a lot easier than detonating their star, but if your enemy is settling its oort cloud, detecting all targets is likely to be difficult.

                • Kunning Druegger says:

                  Sweet, I am crossing Nova Bombs off my 0300 fears list!

                  But the hyper mirrors thing could also be a sort of postcard too, right? Send it off and have it cruise through the target star system, unfolding like a giant billboard, maybe?

                • jim says:

                  For an advanced civilization making contact with a civilization it suspects may be lower tech, gigantic billboards would be useful, but the lasers necessary to propel big billboards are also capable of communicating directly.

                  What would be more useful, given that accelerating something to near light speed is likely to be a whole lot easier than bringing it to a gentle stop at its target, is sending out “small” flyby probes at near light speed. Albeit such probes cannot be all that small, given that they need to phone home.

                  If you suspected a possibly competing civilization, you would like to take a closer look at them before attempting to communicate.

    • Red says:

      Darkies view Asians as weaklings and I agree with them. If you want to be respected you have to be willing to fight back.

      • Wulfgar Thundercock III says:

        At least until they take up the mantle of the Roof Korean, and then the Spearchuckers know to fear them.

        • Red says:

          I lived through Rooftop Koreans and they only got away with it because they credibly threatened to shoot LAPD if they tried to disarm them. The national guard didn’t descend on them disarm them at bayonet point which is what happened to every white group that tries to organize a defense.

          Asians have no excuses for their failure to defend themselves because the feds have never used forces to prevent that defense. They simply suck up to power and let the darkies do whatever they want to their oldsters and women while repeating the cathedral mantra.

          • Pax Imperialis says:

            The Rooftop Koreans were visibly far more masculine than their descendants. City living Asians can’t defend themselves for the reason city living Whites can’t defend themselves. Something about cities is dropping testosterone levels. Might be something in the water. Might be a lack of physical activity that comes with city life.

            • jim says:

              Nah, not city living. World war 2 Japs were urbanites, with women as property and they were way manly.

              • jim says:

                Emasculated by the same people who are emasculating us.

                • Pax Imperialis says:

                  I agree with that, but WW2 urbanites also did not have endocrine disrupting chemicals in their water and food supply.

                  Highest levels of phthalates in results in the lowest levels of testosterone. The effect was most noticeable in boys aged 6 to 12.

                  Obesity is not helping either. Fatter a man gets the more screwed his endocrine becomes which causes him to more easily get fatter and so on and so forth.

                • Red says:

                  During WW1 and WW2 it was noted how wimpy English troops were compared to their Australian and New Zealand counterparts. Higher levels of protein in their diet was generally how it was explained but just 50 years before English men were considered powerful warriors. The more likely reason for the differences was the status of women in those countries.

                  Lower status women = higher T. Chemicals are an issue, but we’re not sure to what extent. But we know that making boys and men low status compared to absolutely kills their testosterone production.

      • Karl says:

        Why do you all write “Asian”? In US English this (usally) seems to mean Yellow. In British English it (usually) means Pakistani.

        Is “Yellow” offensive? Why do you all use a word that applies equally to people from India, Pakistan, China, etc when you could easily be more precise?

        The differences between Chinese, Japanese, Koreans, etc. are -for a German like me- very minor in comparison to Indians or Pakistani. I mean, no White will mistake an Indian for a Chinese, but many Whites might mistake a Korean for a Chinese or Japanese.

        • Red says:

          In America Asian generally means East Asian, IE the higher Asian races like the Chinese, Koreans, and Japanese.

        • jim says:

          > Why do you all write “Asian”? In US English this (usally) seems to mean Yellow. In British English it (usually) means Pakistani.

          Pakis are not Asians. They are Middle Eastern

          Indians are not Asians. No one here calls dot Indians Asians, and if dot Indians are not Asians, Pakis are not Asians.

    • Red says:

      The only major ‘Asian Hate’ incident with a White perpetrator was the 2021 Atlanta spa shootings. The names of the spas sounds like brothels, the workers look like prostitutes, the spas themselves look like brothels, and there are a long list of arrests and investigations resulting in convictions for prostitution. One of the misbegotten children of the dead “message therapists” said his mother never said what her work was… The spas are clearly brothels, and hookers ending up dead is as old as the profession; however, the “Asian community” goes to “White supremacy and racism” as the explanation. The shooter, Robert Long, also killed a White woman, a White man, and injured a Hispanic man. Unless Whites and Hispanics are Asian too I doubt this was racially motivated. Long also had a history of a sexual dysfunction and deeply held religious convictions.

      Long was a incel being tortured by progressive christian parents. They should have found him a girl to marry instead they condemned him as evil for fucking hookers. Fucking hookers is bad for him, but burning with passion with no outlet is worse because it triggers that most basic response to not getting laid: Murderous violence to attract female attention.

  49. notglowing says:

    Astonishingly, Cloudflare has decided they will NOT ban Kiwifarms, and that they will never suspend users because of the content they post again. They wish to be neutral. This is an incredibly unexpected backpedal since banning Stormer and 8chan.
    But they explicitly say they now consider these to be mistakes.

    What do we make of this?

    • Kunning Drueger says:

      Another minor data point in favor of my proposed possible halt of the spiral. Talk is cheap, let’s see if the do more than talk.

    • jim says:

      Cloudfare is part of the Deep State’s information gathering service. From time to time it steps on the Deep State’s content control service, and gets told to move over. This is it replying “No, you move over”.

      Internal conflict in the deep state between information gathering, and information control.

      • Pax Imperialis says:

        Control isn’t working out well for SWIFT. Possible reason why information gathering is winning out in this case?