Art of War in 2022

War matters, so promoting this conversation to a post.

Mister Grumpus asks:

> The narrative is shifting to the Russians managing to muddle through anyway, and the blue-and-yellow Ukraine flags have all but vanished from Twitter.

Ukraine has been attempting World War I tactics, which worked great for a little while, but they are starting to run out of troops willing to fight. Currently it is World War I, which is a horrifyingly costly and destructive way of waging war, and the cost is biting both sides hard, but seems to be costing the Ukrainians worse.

The problem with World War I tactics is that they rely on the fact that frightened troops do not flee artillery bombardment, they dig in. Which prevents attempts to advance no matter how much artillery the enemy applies. But when you try to move those terrified troops from the location where they were being bombarded, to a new location, they are apt to dig in their heels once they have been removed from the old location on the front, where the enemy has become become tired of attacking, and are ordered to go to a new location on the front, where the enemy is, despite the great cost of World War I tactics, advancing. So the Russians are having success by endlessly, unpredictably, and unexpectedly, switching from one segment of the front to another. The Ukrainians are trying to reuse troops, which neither side was very successful in doing during World War I. World War I tactics use up, consume, and exhaust your army.

We are now seeing very large numbers of mutinies by Ukrainian grunts. We are also seeing a deep reluctance of officers to go to the front.

> Has Has the steady grind of Russian artillery fire and Ukrainian logistical disappointment undermined their Info Epoch Warfare? Pulled the plug on it somehow?

> What I no longer see is video of tanks driving around. That must still be way too dangerous with all those man-portable missiles out there.

> Maybe Info Epoch Warfare is still the winning ticket, unless your opponent (Russia) is happy to just shoot many thousand artillery shells and advance X yards per day, and can safely resupply themselves via a fully protected highway.

The Russian computer network penetration effort has failed. Their state level hackers just don’t seem very good at it. Compare and contrast network immensely successful penetration by American Military intelligence.

Last time the I knew anything about what state level actors were doing, the US had massive penetration of everyone’s computer network, and the Chinese were starting, barely starting, to have some success in excluding them. The Chinese were not even trying to penetrate other people’s networks, though maybe they are now. I see no sign of it. They demand companies insert of obvious spyware in their networks, which is quite useless because if you know where the spyware is, you feed it bullshit and bypass it for what really matters. Russian state networks were, and recently still were, wide open. If you cannot defend your computer networks, you probably cannot attack other people’s networks, because you cannot identify vulnerabilities. Russian response to identified vulnerabilities has been foolish and self destructive, covering them up rather than addressing them. One should pay the hacker if he shows you how he did it and helps you to do it to other people, and prevent other people from doing it to oneself, attempt to find him and harm him if he does not.

Russia has been vigorously attempting human penetration of Ukraine human networks, with surprisingly disappointing success. I am now coming to the conclusion that to do human penetration, you need a shared faith.

Stalin had a live state religion, so had immense success in penetrating human networks. Russia is making an effort to revive its state religion, but in the Ukraine, nonetheless has had poor success. Failed to properly utilize Old type Christians, who are being vigorously and murderously persecuted in the Ukraine. The Jesuits had and have immense success in penetrating human networks, though their inner religion now appears to be serpent Christ. The Alawites also had immense success, with an outer religion of Mohammedanism, a middle religion that has syncretic layers of Christianity, Zoroastrianism, and at its center, the inner religion, the innermost religion, a mysterious faith whose nature is alleged to be pagan, but who knows? Only them and God. The Alawites have been doing this for a very very long time, since at least anno Domini 1100, and the touch of Zoroastrianism hints that they may be descended from a faith immensely older. They have good human penetration and immensely good human security.

Looking at efforts at human penetration, look faith based. And because human penetration requires lying, demonic faiths have an advantage in penetration, though they have a disadvantage in preventing penetration. I don’t see any obvious demonic symptoms with the Alawites, but given their very good human security, I would not. Maybe their inner religion has good distinction between lies that can be told and lived without moral compromise, and lies that cannot. Or maybe it does not. Hard to know.

During two millennia of attempted, and sometimes successful, hostile entryism against Christian state religions, entryist groups concocted ever more elaborate systems of ideas and rationalizations so that they could say the right things, in a sense truthfully, but with the deliberately wrong meanings. Which seems odd. Why not just plain lie? Why do creeds and shill tests work? Why have they gone on working for millenia?

Just lying works for the individual, but for the group, not so much, because your agents are apt to become double and triple agents. The best liar believes what he says, so you need a lie that is fundamentally incompatible with the enemy faith, but whose fundamental incompatibility is subtle.

Information Epoch warfare worked great for Trump. It has not been working for Russians, but they are trying. Maybe they will get better. War is a stern teacher.

> Maybe the Bayraktar drones really can find and disable artillery pieces all day long, but Uncle Sam refuses to buy more because Turkish Man Bad. Heck if I know.

Drones are costing the Russians a lot, costing both sides but mostly it is not autonomous drones, but simply dumb drones in line of sight of their controllers, and for moderate range often directly above their controller at altitude (the Ukrainians claim to have a very substantial advantage in distance drone vision) looking down on artillery battles from above. The huge advantage of autonomous drones is that they extend the battlefield all the way, which advantage no one except Turkey has utilized. In the Information Epoch, the battlefield will soon be everywhere. In the Armenian war, the Azerbaijanis gained a huge advantage by extending the battle field all the way throughout the entire disputed territory. Well, time to dispute the enemy capital. Which the Russians have been trying to do, without a lot of success.

Both sides have autonomous long range drones, though I heard some whining from the Ukrainians that they are mighty hard to use autonomously. Autonomous drones had immense impact in the recent Armenian war. Maybe in this war both sides are finding them hard to use. Needs better UI, and better mission controllers.

In the Information Epoch, the military needs high IQ warriors. Maybe neither the Russians nor the Ukrainians have them.

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  1. Kunning Drueger says:

    https://youtu.be/S6TLn50Jm9g

    Col. Macgregor laying it down. Definitely worth a watch.

    Gentlemen, friends & adversaries, and the mentally retarded:

    I propose we start a think tank centered on IEW called Headless Process. We compose essays and send them to people like Macgregor. We use Jim’s software for internal comms and coordination. Nothing IRL, no meatspace offices, just anonymous collaboration online resulting in concise, sober analysis and theory.

    Jim says his stuff isn’t ready, but some things will never be ready because they’ll never be perfect. Deploying systems on a small scale with no fanfare is the best way to work out bugs and develop optimization.

    Papers and essays need to be drafted, then edited. I will do the editing and if I need help, I’ll ask. I will also track down contact info for Recipients, and do delivery if it is absolutely necessary.

    We need to develop a list of Targets composed of people or organizations that we send the completed policy and theory papers to.

    We need to develop a list of topics, broken into Essential, Supporting, and Interesting.

    We need to demonstrate the value and nascent power of our synthetic tribe in order to find and connect with the Elites capable of forming the new regime. I see no benefit to sitting around, waiting for salvation, hoping against hope someone else will bring about Restoration. I know this is a dangerous path to walk, which is precisely why we can be certain it’s worthy of our efforts.

  2. Travis says:

    Interesting article….posits namefag Yarvin as “cathedral idea is nonsense.”

    https://counter-currents.com/2022/06/why-the-concept-of-the-cathedral-is-nonsense/

    • The Cominator says:

      1. Before the 2016 election the evidence of the center was weak, since 2020 the existence of a conspiracy of the Alex Jones type is obvious. You still don’t know exactly what the center is… but you know its there.

      2. The way this article characterizes the center is incorrect

      “It is “decentralized” in the sense that there’s no single center directing action, but rather multiple competing groups jockeying for power and influence while the controlling center provides the marketplace”

      No no 2020 proved it really was some small SPECTRE like cabal at the top. Though I expect the WEF is just a frontgroup for it (that Klaus Schwab looks a lot like Blofeld/Dr Evil is not a coincidence).

      “These misconceptions all stem from a very wrongheaded idea about markets and commerce — that somehow they arise “spontaneously” and are not top-down. In reality, there is no such thing as a non-palace economy, as all commercial or productive activities depend on the framework and infrastructure which can only be provided by the sovereign”

      Trade does not depend on the government really… only scaling trade and property beyond what you can defend yourself does.

      3. This is another one of the stupid “blame the merchants” articles.

      “Far more than the simple peasant, the high financier and wealthy merchant depend on the king’s whims, his money, his standards, his soldiers and policemen, his courts, his roads, his economic power as a guarantor of their solvency, and his diplomatic clout insofar as they trade abroad. For the most part, they don’t mind this”

      Now this is true but he makes it out like the merchants control this… and merchants don’t mind this too much when the king just wants them to kickup a small %. When the kingpriest wants the merchant to cut his balls off though they do mind.

    • alf says:

      The name ‘Nicholas Jeelvy’ does ring a bell… Wasn’t he a commenter back in the day? I remember not being very impressed back then. Of this article, I can barely read two paragraphs before being bored to death.

      • Aidan says:

        We used to be friends on Twitter back in the day; cool guy but not exactly one of us.

    • Starman says:

      @Travis

      Counter-Currents is run by Grindr Greg Johnson, a faggot that promoted the Covid hoax and the frankenvaxx.

      • Travis says:

        Yes. Just posting the link as it is relevant.

        It is also bullshit…..as is Johnson.

    • jim says:

      Counter currents is controlled opposition. I have always found watching their stuff a complete waste of time, and mentally exhausting because of the effort required to detect the payload of implicit lies being carried in statements that explicitly dance around the truth, while implicitly carrying a payload of lies.

  3. ExileStyle says:

    Well, here it is. Roe and Casey overruled:

    “Held: The Constitution does not confer a right to abortion; Roe and Casey
    are overruled; and the authority to regulate abortion is returned to the
    people and their elected representatives.”

    https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/21pdf/19-1392_6j37.pdf

    • Neurotoxin says:

      Can’t wait to see how the left reacts to this. This is a clear statement that the right is not always afraid to challenge the left’s most holy sacraments, and a refutation of the left’s precvious ratchet notion that History only moves leftward.

      • ExileStyle says:

        A big refutation. Though no time to relax, as these sly jackals will do anything in their power to resume unfettered celebration of their central sacrament. The DOJ might simply go rogue now, as they have already suggested they will do with gun control.

        Also important to note that this was a 6-3 decision in the end, so credit to Roberts for not being intimidated by the leak. I suspect he, the consummate “institutionalist,” concurred in the end in no small part as a sign that the court will not be so easily intimidated.

      • notglowing says:

        Although I am certainly happy about this, as this has been propped up as a big holy cow for the left, I can’t help but consider it a small victory.

        The fact it took so many decades to overturn it, which should’ve been much easier, speaks volumes of how irredeemable the American judiciary is.

        This isn’t even banning abortion after all. It’s overturning a perverse interpretation of the constitution that somehow maintains that the document confers an absolute right to abortion. How obviously stupid is that? It’s a low hanging fruit. And it’s one of the less controversial things for right wingers to support.

        Now abortion is still effectively legal, women just have to travel longer to have it done, considering many states will never ban it. Given they have 9 months this is more of a psychological victory for the right (and ought to be celebrated as such) than a real change in direction.

        Leftists maintained some absolute right to abortion with no restriction for decades on this incredibly shaky foundation, because they knew legislative action to enshrine it into law would have meant compromising with republicans, and making abortion more restricted, much like it generally is in Europe.

        • Neurotoxin says:

          “Although I am certainly happy about this, as this has been propped up as a big holy cow for the left, I can’t help but consider it a small victory.”

          It’s a huge victory.

          Destroys the left’s aura of invincibility.

          Crashes through their cherished walls of delusion about how history is totally on their side, so they definitely can’t lose in the long run.

          Role of morale is enormously important.

          Shows the enemy can bleed, on the most public of all stages.

          It doesn’t matter whether you think abortion is a big deal. The point is, the left DOES think that. It’s a huge deal to them, and everyone knows it. And they were not able to stop this from happening.

          “Fear will keep the local systems in line,” says Tarkin, “fear of this battle station.” Then the rebels destroy it in front of the whole galaxy. This happened – let’s suppose for the sake of argument – while the Death Star was headed to destroy some target that had little military value. The value of that target is not the point. The point is that their invincible untouchable death machine just got ass-raped on the world stage.

          • Varna says:

            > It’s a huge victory.

            Destroys the left’s aura of invincibility.

            Crashes through their cherished walls of delusion about how history is totally on their side, so they definitely can’t lose in the long run.

            Role of morale is enormously important.

            …This is to a large extent what happened to the Soviet camp. They stopped believing they are on the right side of history. Once you manage to get the opposition into at least starting to doubt, their energy begins to plummet.

            Self-doubt can be a very healthy thing, not necessarily a paralyzing nightmare of indecision. Every honest man knows self-doubt and how to deal with it in a healthy manner. It’s high time for a large chunk of globohomo drones to at least be introduced to this concept.

        • ExileStyle says:

          No, this matters a lot. As Thomas points out in his opinion, contraception, gay marriage, and sodomy laws were all decided with the exact same reasoning as Roe, and with Roe as precedent.

          Also keep in mind that should Republicans retake congress, they could ban abortion nationally. Their hands are no longer tied. Whether they will do it is another question; the fact now is they can. And this is the only real issue Republicans are totally consistent and uncompromising on.

          It also matters in terms of how the left responds. They will definitely try to simply ignore the Supreme Court from now on, paint it as illegitimate, attempt to pack it or just dispense with it entirely. Their success or failure and overall approach to that could determine the timing, intensity, and shape of Civil War II, and who ends up ruling this nation.

          This is a big deal. Let’s not be too cynical. Let’s also not forget about the innocent human souls being saved from trash compactors and the human organ trade market, too. This is a win.

          • The Cominator says:

            “Also keep in mind that should Republicans retake congress, they could ban abortion nationally.”

            Republicans would need to clear up the vote fraud to have any hope of retaking the Senate, and if they cleared up the vote fraud they would have to ask themselves whether a national ban on abortion would be popular and it absolutely would not be and if you think it would be you’re nuts (except for late term abortions). Republican voters vote Republican because Democrats intrude in their lives more with stupid policies and are more likely to ruin the economy (I mean if they aren’t named Bush) not because they want them to intrude on them more in this one case.

            I believe the ruling is that this is a state issue.

            The problem with abortion is also woman’s right to choose… not that it exists. Abortion should be husband and father’s right to choose.

          • jim says:

            > should Republicans retake congress, they could ban abortion nationally

            No they cannot. The ruling is that it is an issue for the separate states. It is a state issue.

            • Jehu says:

              They could withhold all highway funding and other sorts of funding from any state that didn’t put a 360 day waiting period on abortions. At least assuming that the Supremes aren’t willing to go there on the Commerce clause and States ‘not being raped, merely seduced’ decisions.

    • chris says:

      Hoes be mad.

    • notglowing says:

      Derangement and delusion are pretty high for what is not even a big loss, pretty typical of the histrionic leftist:
      https://i.imgur.com/hTlIIQn.png

  4. skippy says:

    Since this seems like a good place to ask, what is the most accurate and reliable English translation of the Old Testament?

    (I understand from reading comments here that the translation issues are different for the Old Testament compared to the New Testament)

    • Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

      KJV, Douay-Rheims, and Young Literal are the strongest options. When checking passages i find it profitable to have all three open.

  5. Severian says:

    Bringing it back to information epoch.

    I can’t tell if this battle in the Donbas is a one off, but it would be ironic if the result of information epoch weapons were to be the end of fast maneuver warfare and a return to long and brutal wars of attrition. Because no one in the west has the morale or industrial capacity to fight a war like this.

    Maybe even NATO’s paradigm of air supremacy is now put into question. After all the Russian airforce can’t freely roam the skies yet, even with the limited air defenses of the Ukrainians. So what’s the likelihood of NATO airforce routing a more sophisticated air defense network like Russia’s?

    • Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

      That’s the take some of the remnants of the old military technocracy in America have. The term they use is ‘salvo economy’, which is basically the the jousting match between platforms for striking targets, and platforms for intercepting enemy platforms – which are often the same platforms, in different mission modes. (Eg, this is an illustrative abstract https://csbaonline.org/uploads/documents/Crossroads_presentation_-_Web.pdf )

      For everyone else outside residual circles like these running the clown show, it’s less that they are wrong about these issues, and more like they haven’t even thought of them at all.

    • jim says:

      Both sides are learning that the art of war has changed.

      Air supremacy is no longer a thing.

      Two rather small groups of Ukrainian troops are now surrounded. It may be quite a while before they surrender. By that time there may well be considerably larger groups surrounded.

      The Ukraine successfully turned it into a grueling World War I style war, which is intolerable form of warfare, for even the winner is exhausted.

      The Russians are trying to find a way to win that bypasses attrition. But so far, have wound up doing attrition.

      Tanks are no longer tanks. They are mobile artillery, and I see no reason why mobile artillery should not be mounted in technicals rather than tanks. The tanks hide behind grunts, for fear of anti tank weapons, rather than charging out in front of grunts as in World War II.

      But, tanks and mobile artillery are vulnerable to drones. Both sides are figuring out the new hierarchy of warfare.

      In world war I, it took ten thousand shells to kill one grunt. But with drones observing, one shell one grunt. This should make World War I style attritive warfare a non starter, and yet it continues.

      One would expect the side attempting to fight an attritive World War I war to suffer terrible casualties, and we have some reason to suppose the Ukes are suffering terrible casualties. The continuation of attritive warfare may reflect the typical desire of Jewish rulers to genocide their goy subjects. Or it may be working. The Russians are advancing at a creep, with lots of failures and gaining an unimpressive amount of territory in each expensive success. So far, by this measure, it is working. On the other hand, we have seen some substantial collapses by demoralized Ukrainian troops. Maybe as attrition continues, there are going to be some rather larger collapses.

      • Karl says:

        How expensive are Russian successes? I have not seen any data on Russian losses.

        If one side has grunts in trench, and the other side has artillery losses might be rather one-sided

      • Jehu says:

        I understand that Russia has absolutely outrageous amounts of old tanks, some even going back to WW2 vintage mothballed for occasions like this. T-62s apparently make quite satisfactory mobile artillery, and they still have hordes of them. That’s probably why they’re not using technicals.

        • Mister Grumpus says:

          Sure why not. Just use up the old junk. They won’t need it later, that’s for fucking sure. Does it roll? Does it shoot? OK fine, go, figure something out.

          But yes, the next level is just straight up bolting howitzers to those KAMAZ off-road semi truck trailers with monster tires and kickass suspensions. I can’t wait! What’s “Mad Max” in Russian?

      • Mister Grumpus says:

        Do you (Jim) “take back” your earlier take that Ukr had figured out IEW? Did you read the shadows wrong? Did something change? What could that have been?

        I don’t get it either. Is it just that the Russians figured out that they were being stupid, and stopped being stupid, but don’t know anything else now besides skull-to-skull artillery bashing?

        • jim says:

          The Russians and the Ukrainians are both improving their game, but are both primarily relying on obsolete weapons, tactics, and strategy.

          Recollect that tanks were around for a long time before people figured out how to use them, and stirrups were around for a very long time before we had cavalry charges.

          Information epoch warfare is inherently attritive, but the trick is to do what Trump did. Strike at the key vertices of the social and communications graph of the enemy network. The Russians are getting better at this, but they still suck.

          Information Epoch warfare is the left strategy of deplatforming, cancelling, and demonetizing, except supplemented with high explosives.

          It requires intense focus on social and computer network penetration – the left’s vast army of shills and entryists, and our computer hackers.

          The NSA used to be by far the best in the world at computer network penetration, though their competence now appears to be rapidly diminishing. They are still collecting enormous amounts of data, but these days it is mostly the low hanging fruit.

          Despite all the bullshit about Russian hackers, the Russian intelligence agencies truly suck at computer penetration, though they recently had an impressive victory which suggests that they penetrated the American computer network used for Ukrainian artillery targeting. The should hire our guys – except that our guys are hard to find.

      • Mister Grumpus says:

        The WWI analogy is fascinating, though, because they first used airplanes for artillery spotting back then too. Now it’s drones. But for a while, military aviation was just a weird circus show for the “real war” happening elsewhere. Drones started out kinda like that just a few months ago.

        One thing I vaguely recall is how a daring bit of airplane-based reconnaissance daring-do blew the cover of a big important Russian troop movement and got them all fucked over really badly. It’s in Guns of August somewhere. (Somebody check me.) So they remember that.

  6. chris says:

    I feel sad for these men. Their lives are being thrown away for nothing.

    https://twitter.com/200_zoka/status/1539724261421711365

    • someDude says:

      Normality bias. They’ll probably shoot you if you tell them that their lives are being thrown away for nothing.

      • chris says:

        How many were conscripted against their will? How many are worried being shot by their own side as they surrender?

        • someDude says:

          Good point! My Bad. Yeah, this sucks. Too many good men being lost for such an unworthy cause. Happens too many times. Very Black-pilling.

  7. Kunning Drueger says:

    Off topic.

    Hey Jim, check out this excerpt:

    “There was a logic to the Afghanistan that existed before the Taliban, the Mujahedeen, the Soviet invasion, and communist usurpation. In this Afghanistan, the king reigned but did not rule. The state was stable but its reach was short: public order was preserved by the leaders of the village and the tribe. Tribal life mattered most to Afghanistan’s largest ethnic group, the Pashtuns. The Pashtuns esteemed those who lived according to Pashtunwali, the Pashtun code of honor. One conviction coursed through the social world of Pashtunwali: A Pashtun bows to no man.

    In this system, the job of the village elder and tribal khan was to provision their clans, secure their womenfolk from outside eyes, and resolve disputes without slighting or belittling the other men of their community. Elaborate customs of hospitality and lengthy council meetings allowing every man equal say were the main tools khans used to quash quarrels and share honor. Failure to resolve a quarrel through council led to resolution by feud. Tribesmen had no compunction exchanging eyes for eyes. The goal was less punishment than parity: feuds would end when both sides had equal red in their ledger. Experienced leaders balanced the demands of corporate honor with the urgency of ending the violence before it engulfed the entire tribe. Abstract moral rules did not guide their decision-making. As Malkasian comments: “Whatever was in the interests of the tribe was right: Pashtun realpolitik.”

    Under the traditional order young men sought distinction through acts of courage and daring. Old men, in turn, were distinguished from their peers by demonstrating the wisdom, foresight, and persuasive power needed to constrain their young men from taking reckless action.”

    Here’s the source: https://palladiummag.com/2022/04/15/the-taliban-were-afghanistans-real-modernizers/

    This request might be excessive, but would you consider doing a deep dive post on how a hypothetical man should construct a theoretical tribe in Minecraft? It occurs to me that the taliRay B@n sunglasses collective actually have a model worth emulating, but it is not really built for Christian culture and geography.

    • Aidan says:

      Who says it’s not built for Christian culture and geography? Looks to me like when large-scale cooperation collapses, and a Dark Age ensues, the ancient Aryan clannish mode of life re-emerges, Christian or not. My great ancestors in the highlands of Scotland lived an existence remarkably similar to the green-eyed and frequently blonde Pashtun until they lost a war against the British due to their inability to cooperate, and large-scale cooperation was imposed on them with force. At which point they went on to massively punch above their demographic weight in war, engineering, science, and adventure.

      War and hardship forces the white man back into clans. If you and I were to found one, because we’re not actually related, and do not believe in the divinity of ancestors, we would adopt a symbol, call ourselves Clan Odonata lets say, paint a dragonfly and a cross on our guns and trucks, marry some relatives to each other, and we have a clan. But, unlikely to form true clan bonds on the level the Pashtun until there is physical danger and extreme hardship.

  8. Kunning Drueger says:

    This is fascinating, hilarious, and repulsive:

    “A number of claims and counterclaims are being made on the Ukraine-Russia conflict on the ground and online. While GlobalSecurity.org takes utmost care to accurately report this news story, we cannot independently verify the authenticity of all statements, photos and videos.”

    […]

    “One hundred and nineteenth day of the Ukrainian nation’s heroic confrontation with the Russian military invasion continues.

    Ukraine’s defense forces have almost completely destroyed the “elite” of Russia’s western military district, which they were preparing to oppose NATO. This was reported by the Ukraine Security Service, citing the interception of conversations between the Russian occupiers. The SBU notes that these Russian units were completely defeated by the Armed Forces, and only those soldiers who refused to invade Ukraine survived.”

    […]

    ” ‘Our defense intelligence service believes that Russia may reach the point in the next few months where it has no more impetus as it exhausts its resources,’ said Boris Johnson. ‘In that case, we must help the Ukrainians to reverse the dynamics. I will appeal for it at the G7 summit in Germany’ he announced.

    ” ‘If the Ukrainians are able to launch a counteroffensive, it should be supported. The equipment they expect from us,’ he said. When asked what would happen after a possible victory for Ukraine, he replied: ‘At least we will regain the status quo from before February 24, and Russian troops will be driven out of the areas attacked by them.’

    Here’s a link to the full article:
    https://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/war/russo-ukraine-2022-06-22.htm

    If you decide to subject yourself to this schlock, you will see that the truth is buried in a scattered smattering throughout the article: Ukraine is losing, badly. But the prose intimates the exact opposite: Russia just cannot seem to be successful while they annihilate UKR forces and take territory.

    From the same source, a different article:

    “Russian forces pounded the Donbas region in eastern Ukraine on June 22 as they sought to completely encircle the last pocket of Ukrainian resistance in the embattled cities of Lysychansk and Syevyerodonetsk in the Luhansk region.”

    […]

    “The British bulletin highlighted what it called the “extraordinary” attrition rate among the Moscow-backed separatist forces in the Donetsk region, which, based on figures published by the separatist authorities — more than 2,100 killed and almost 8,900 wounded — is equivalent to around 55 percent of its original force.

    The report said the separatists appeared to be equipped with outdated Russian weapons and equipment.

    It noted that Russian regular forces, which haven’t published official casualty figures since March 25, are likely to have suffered similarly high losses.

    Ukraine has not published official casualty figures, which it keeps secret, but various officials including President Volodymyr Zelenskiy have suggested as many as 100 Ukrainian soldiers are being killed every day.”

    […]

    “In Syevyerodonetsk, Ukrainian defenders held on to the Azot chemical plant in the city. About 500 civilians are sheltering at the plant, and Hayday said in an interview with AP that Russian forces were turning the area ‘into ruins.'”

    Here’s the link; it’s basically a rehash of the first one, with added details:
    https://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/library/news/ukraine/2022/06/ukraine-220622-rferl01.htm

    Civilians are dying, and Russia is using artillery! Facts, my guy. But, regardless of the phrasing, these are unrelated facts. UKR is going after non-military targets, using human shields, and suffering terribly. This propaganda is peak WWII.

    So, according to Luttwack, GAE intel is a joke, a sprawling bureaucracy resting on laurels long rotten. According to our own lying eyes, GAE 4th estate is living in a fantasy land. GAE military is expending reserve stocks, castrating its capabilities, and drinking from the same Kool aid trough as Intel and Media. In one of those articles, some nobody from Lithuania is nervously certain that it’s perfectly fine to poke the bear, as Lithuania is part of NATO. As we all know, NATO has the USM, and the USM doesn’t lose battles, war, territory, or its tenuous grip on reality.

    The GAE is hopscotching its way toward destruction.

    • Varna says:

      > In Syevyerodonetsk, Ukrainian defenders held on to the Azot chemical plant in the city. About 500 civilians are sheltering at the plant,

      Once we learn that “gender affirming healthcare” means “cutting off your dick/tits and destroying your endocrine system”, then of course “being held hostage by” becomes “sheltering at”.

      • Kunning Drueger says:

        Varna, you always provide excellent sources. I’m looking for a detailed account of a specific battle or limited engagement in the Special Operation. This is for a creative project, so the actual truth is secondary to the details. Can you give me something you’ve seen, point me towards a good source, or generally advise me on how to go about finding it? Something like this: https://www.thoughtco.com/iraq-war-second-battle-of-fallujah-2360957

  9. Alfred says:

    Can anyone give a recommendation for an honest, non-PC account of the Middle Ages in Western Europe? Google is cluttered with recent releases from 2008 and on that scream woke from the authors and titles.

    The older, the better. Thank you in advance.

    • ExileStyle says:

      Do you have a more specific focus of interest? That’s a huge sphere of study covering nearly a millennium and many nations and languages.

      I’d always go with primary sources when possible. If you want to know what the real lives of real people were like, read the Decameron or the Canterbury Tales. If you want to take the chronicles/hard history route, Froissart’s are great for the late Middle Ages (14th century), and Gregory of Tours’ History of the Franks is a really fun read covering the very early Middle Ages.

      Don’t bother with anything about the era written in the 18th century or later…except maybe Oswald Spengler’s Decline of the West, which contains a spectacular synthetic history of the Middle Ages, if you’re into Spengler’s thing. (Which you probably are if you are here.)

      If you’re really in a hurry, I remember Barbara Tuchman’s A Distant Mirror being a snappy, readable overview of the late Middle Ages based on Froissart’s chronicles, but I read it pre-redpill so can’t 100% vouch for its frame…

      • Scissors says:

        Tuchman’s “Guns of August”, Preface, third sentence: “As the center and source of the Judaeo-Christian religion, …”

        Stop right there. The whole entire point of Christianity is the claim that the Jewish status as the only chosen people has been superseded and the old covenant replaced with a new one. The whole entire point of modern Judaism is rejection of Christianity and denial of Christ’s divinity. These two positions are not reconcilable.

        Whatever position one takes on Jews and their net impact on modern society, it is simply not possible to honestly claim that these two religions are one and the same.

        Barbara Tuchman (who, btw, was Jewish), is an excellent writer. Just be aware: she’s lying to you from the start.

    • Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

      For an introduction, ‘The Discarded Image’ by C. S. Lewis serves well.

    • Aidan says:

      It’s hard to find a good one. I’d say read primary sources and apply Jimian synthesis. Froude’s “History of England” is technically about the Renaissance, it only covers the 16th century, but it gives a good glimpse into how politics worked back then. Because the middle ages were the first attacked by leftists, older books are not necessarily more reliable. I haven’t read Coulanges’ works on the middle ages but I assume they’re solid.

      A recent book that impressed me was Heart of Europe, which while narratively flaccid is so meticulously dense and well-researched (infodump style of history) that a lot of stuff that wouldn’t be allowed to be published were it focused on is allowed to slip by. Of course, you must simply ignore the author’s own interpretation of history and use it as a building block.

      I second Exile’s recommendation of Spengler’s account of the Middle Ages, but it’s buried deep in Decline of the West, which should be read, but not a lot of people have the patience to digest it.

  10. Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

    When it is pointed out that Russia has long standing treaties which stipulate a guarantee of land-access to Prussia, the NPC response seems to boil down to ‘If Russia isn’t willing to escalate, then Lithuania (the GAE) has nothing to lose by wiping its ass with merely written agreements between states whenever convenient’.

    Do they – which is to say, the people putting out the word to the NPC herd – not see what lies at the end of this train of thought? (That’s a trick question.)

    If they are merely a curious subspecies of bipedal animal that ultimately only cares about whether you have the power to hurt it or not, and that if it can get away with victimizing another party, it will – then the only thing wrong with Russia’s invasion is that it didn’t happen sooner. That they were always and already at war, that the GAE always sought to undermine Russia and reduce it to a vassal state like the rest of Europe, and that the only way this ends is when one or the other is ended.

    • Kunning Drueger says:

      https://youtu.be/qciVozNtCDM

      Mearsheimer, very recent too. He speaks to a tiny room of GAE NPCs, all of whom can’t wait to demonstrate their holiness. Mearsheimer systematically explains precisely how NATO precipitated the conflict, building a concise and explicit timeline with dates and quotes. It’s elegant and horrifying. And they just… hear nothing. This one video is making me rethink my position; I don’t think they realize what’s happening, like the Arawak looking through Columbus’ ships. Of course, Blinken and close company know what they’re doing. They want a limited nuclear exchange. But I don’t think the academics are on board, though not because they wouldn’t be, rather they cannot conceive of a world wherein their entire framework false. They have no agency. They were combating a deadly, mystery pandemic with robust measures and a safe, effective vaccine when, out of nowhere and for no reason at all, Putin invaded the ancient West European nation of Ukraine.

      • jim says:

        > Blinken and close company know what they’re doing.

        Not necessarily, rather I think it the other way around.

        When a mule stuffs ballot boxes with fake ballots, she knows what she is doing, I can see that in her shady demeanor. And therefore chances are that the people who physically printed up the fake ballots know what they are doing also. But I am pretty sure the people who paid the mules and the printers and who give them their orders think they are making every vote count, fighting Republican voter suppression, and saving democracy.

        Anonymous Fake has trouble responding to our woke capitalism meme, because he would have to ask his supervisor for a script expansion, but his supervisor is not allowed to see the meme, lest it might make him think, and his supervisor does not want to see our memes, since thinking would hurt.

        You can also see this in that the left cannot meme. They cannot meme, because they cannot think the thoughts that the memes need to address.

        • Pax Imperialis says:

          They are flat out incapable of thinking the foreign thoughts. It’s not a question of permission or not wanting to think. They flat out cannot think outside the box they were either born with or given.

          I can put myself in the shoes of a communist, a fascist, a libertarian, a conservative, a German, a Russian, a Chinese, etc. I can understand their way of thinking. I can understand their way of feeling. I can sympathize with their desires.

          That’s what most people in the realist IR camp* can do. That is not what most people can do.

          Anonymous Fake is flat out incapable of thinking complex/abstract ideas. No amount of script extension solves the underlying problem.

          *Interestingly enough, many engineers who are not social spergs can do the same. Considering how much of China’s political leadership are engineers likely serves as an explanation on why the Chinese understand America better than the Americans.

          • jim says:

            Scott Alexander was not stupid. On the contrary he came up with no end of elaborately ingenious ways of believing things insane, stupid, self contradictory, evil, and self destructive. And in due course started banning everyone who persistently poked at the obvious holes in his reasoning.

            • Pax Imperialis says:

              Talking about generalities. Most people, regardless of intelligence, can not sincerely play devil’s advocate. They can not think hypothetically. They don’t have empathy for the “wrong” set of ideas from the wrong set of people. This happens at all levels of intelligence. Their mind sees wrong think and automatically shuts off interacting with it. It is pathological.

              It’s a dominant personality type on the left but is also fairly common one on the right. This isn’t a question of intelligence.

              If a person doesn’t have empathy for both sides of a conflict, then they really don’t understand the conflict.

              As for Anonymous Fake… well he’s no Scott Alexander from what I’ve seen makes it through.

            • Vlad says:

              Whose that remind me of

        • Mister Grumpus says:

          @Jim:
          “You can also see this in that the left cannot meme. They cannot meme, because they cannot think the thoughts that the memes need to address.”

          Whether to argue for, or argue against, they can’t think them. That’s it.

          This is ThoughtCrime/CrimeStop’s most crucial insight, at least to me. I’ve never seen it made anywhere else than right here.

          This suggests to me that even the concept of “polite debate” is therefore fundamentally BS, but I can’t quite put it into words succinctly. Please help.

          • Cloudswrest says:

            This is the reason Scott Evil in Austin Powers is so funny. He is the only character who speaks common sense and the other characters either ignore him or tell him to shut up.

          • Adam says:

            It is also among Christians what they refer to as the Holy Spirit “interceding”.

            It’s all cognitive dissonance.

          • Kunning Drueger says:

            Polite Debate is something Polite People do in a Polite Society. With no formal hierarchy, no informal rules of decorum, and no shared purposes or desires, there can be no debate, polite or otherwise. Instead, every conversation is a knife fight, every argument is an opportunity to damage and degrade, and every person is both a dupe and a danger. This is pure, distilled anti-whiteness; intellectual white-wolf-white. One of the many cursed legacies of Gramscii and the Frankfurt School.

      • Pax Imperialis says:

        I rolled my eyes a couple of times with the audience questions but that guy in the back with yellow pants gave me a headache.

        This relates back to what I was talking about with nuance. Most people can’t mentally operate with nuance in general. Even more so in a charged political situation.

        Most people, academics included, are not capable of mentally operating in ambiguity. Things are either right or wrong. Good or evil. 1 or 0.

        That is not a criticism of binary thinking, it’s quite useful when you don’t have the time to determine if that Saber Tooth Tiger is going to eat you or not. You’ll live longer thinking in simplistic terms that all Tigers are evil and should be avoided/killed on sight.

        It’s not that they don’t realize what’s happening. It’s that they are flat out incapable of realizing in the first place.

        IR requires looking at the situation from both sides. Accurately and sincerely putting oneself in the mindset of for example both the American and the Russian ethos/culture/politics/etc. Few are even capable. For most of those capable, it is extremely hard because it’s easy to slip into one sided moral frameworks.

        There is a reason why Machiavelli was considered amoral and evil never-mind the terminological contradiction of such a thing…

        I’ve said this before, and I will say this repeatedly in the future in many different ways, most people are completely incapable of conceptualizing other points of view. Most people are completely incapable of conceptualizing something being both right and wrong or something being neither right or wrong.

        Most people live with no shades of gray. If the reverse were true, engineers and realist IR wouldn’t be such a small group of people.

        • Adam says:

          I agree with this assessment and add that quite a lot of it is driven by fear, and the need for the illusion of control. Simple mindedness, black and white thinking, emotional reasoning etc. these are all primitive tools used by everyone early in life. They are survival tools.

          Kazimierz Dąbrowski a Polish psychologist created a theory called “Positive Disintegration” where he describes 5 levels of consciousness. Basically starting with psychosis (emotional and psychological scarcity), to what you described, NPC behavior, and several steps of growth leading to stage 5 multi-level positive integration (complete self awareness and mastery).

          His work explains how people get through those 5 stages, basically a series of psychological and emotional fitness tests. Very often people will repeatedly attempt throughout their life to get further, only to fail a certain test again, and slide backwards.

          It’s interesting, and everything I’ve read of his stuff, which is just the basics, holds true in my experience.

          • Kunning Drueger says:

            Please link and/or drop quotes when you get a chance, if you’re willing.

            • Adam says:

              Will do- https://positivedisintegration.com/

              Pretty congruent with the red pill and our views on evolutionary fitness, as well as spirituality. He makes the case that these levels are naturally occurring and people are built to psychologically and emotionally heal and grow.

  11. Severian says:

    Russia has completed the first major encirclement in the Donbas.
    Ukrainians in Hirske and Zolote are now completely surrounded. They will then move to surround Lisichansk from the south.

    https://twitter.com/GeromanAT/status/1539605059641696256/photo/1

    • Mister Grumpus says:

      All right that’s it. I’m schitzo now. The Keev people are trying to (launder money and) kill off their own Army.

      It’s a Holodomor, but of their own armed forces. “We meant well.” “It was an accident.” “It was for a good cause.” “It just didn’t work out.” Incredible.

      Prove me wrong I beg you.

      • jim says:

        Jews and leftists just hate warrior types. They just cannot help themselves.

        Kiev is trying to wipe out its own army. Modeling our opponents as sane is inaccurate.

      • Mister Grumpus says:

        English speaking armed forces are obviously next. Same reasons, same mechanism, same ends, same means.

        What on earth does one do with this perspective/information (assuming he lacks the IQ to hand build crypto castles of scriptless scripting brilliance)?

      • Pooch says:

        Not following. Encirclements happen in war. It is not like the Ukes are trying to be encircled.

        • Mister Grumpus says:

          Do you believe (((the Keev people))) really think they can win the war with Russia now?

          Or rather, is this “stand and fight or get shot” business, at this point, just to hold onto power a little bit longer, and physically remove the people who can defect to Putin, depose them, and save their own country from further death and destruction?

          (Surely Hitler was on this same trip once the Red Army was crossing Poland. Just saying.)

        • Kunning Drueger says:

          Encirclement happens, but so does defeat or ambush or rout. Ex post facto, it can appear as if a force let an encirclement happen, or courted defeat willingly, or was avoidably routed. Did the US “let” Vietnam win? Did Napoleon choose to be routed?

          Sometimes, political entities with control of tactical or strategic elements but not present in the battlespace adopt policies or positions that very obviously lead to defeat; the Whigs during the American revolution, the Congress during the American War, the destruction of Rhodesia. Do these situations validate the assertion made by the defeated military men that the politicians lost the war and not them? If so, is it accurate to say that they were trying to lose?

          I believe it is the case in UKR that the power animating the leadership is actively getting soldiers killed (because predominantly white males), and that the leadership is actively getting soldiers killed through zealous posturing intended to signal nationalist fervor.

      • Severian says:

        Russian MoD claims some Ukrainian units in that area suffered 50+% casualties and refused orders to keep fighting, retreating from the area. Hence why the fast closing of that pocket.

    • Kunning Drueger says:

      Severian has taken a pretty consistent approach to where he stands and what he posts about. Contrast the tone and content with Basil, the anti-Putin Pole, and join me in puzzling how he has disappeared just as the GAE began retooling their Ukraine War shill ops. I bet he reappears when the GAE picks its path with a completely coincidental alignment. 😐

  12. Mister Grumpus says:

    Jim doesn’t run a hugbox, but I need some perspective here.

    When all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail, and the USA-Canada is looking like one big Cambodia to me.

    A leftist singularity, cheered on by Harvard, firewalled within geographic isolation.

    A ruling class/regime, and then general population, purged of anyone smart enough to understand what’s going wrong and why.

    Useful to outside powers as a farm only, pretty much, while the population starves on fake news.

    No one to march in (like Vietnam in the analogy) and say “All right you guys. That’s enough. Knock it off.”

    Maybe that’s where I’m wrong, if I am wrong: There IS someone to march in and take over: Limb-Chopping Volcano-Worshipping 75-IQ Central America. Emperor MS13. Yay.

    Another wrinkle in the analogy is that Cambodia wasn’t a military threat to anyone else, while the US still is, on paper anyway, but once Shaniqua finishes metabolizing the Navy, well not so much. But then again, what finally triggered the Vietnamese (as a proxy for China?) invasion of Cambodia was the Cambodian incursion into Vietnam to genocide some fleeing Cambodians.

    So without that last twitch of aggression against Vietnam, thus triggering the Vietnamese coming in to finish off of its own regime, Cambodia may have had no one left alive at all. “Kill kill kill kill kill kill kill” indeed.

    Discuss.

    • Ex says:

      America is some fifty times the size of Cambodia, with larger distances from Harvard, fewer tigers in the backwoods, more guns, more smart people, and better internet access. While nobody could simply march in by land, there’s a lot of states who might like both the prestige and the resources available.

    • alf says:

      I no longer believe in a Cambodia style leftist singularity of infinite leftism in finite time. I believe the progs would do it if they could, but I don’t think they can. Not enough masculinity left among their ranks. They’ll wreck everything else — energy grids, industry, agriculture, that sort of stuff. But they lack the power to pull off true revolutionary matters. It’s not 1900 AD Russia, it’s 200 AD Rome.

      I think that goes for Europe as well as America, but I’d feel even better about America considering they have lots of guns.

      • Pooch says:

        It’s not 1900 AD Russia, it’s 200 AD Rome.

        I think that goes for Europe as well as America, but I’d feel even better about America considering they have lots of guns.

        Yes this is where I’m at as well, although I still think we are in the first century BC of the late Roman Republic albeit with a slave post-industrial market economy instead of a slave agrarian market economy so certain degenerate values are necessarily sped up in the anti-natalist cycle (gay, trans, etc).

        The triumvirate of Caesar/Crassus/Pompey symbolized the return of warrior class rule over the combined priestly/merchant oligarchical class rule of Rome and I believe the day is coming for warrior class rule to return to the American Empire.

        Trump looks like the beginning of that shift (although he himself is not a warrior), in the way Gracchus represented the beginning of that shift.

        Europe does not seem like it has many warriors left, but America surely does so warrior rule must necessarily originate in America.

        • ExileStyle says:

          Europe does not seem like it has many warriors left, but America surely does so warrior rule must necessarily originate in America.

          Europe is diverging more clearly and resolutely than ever from America. Europe has no warriors of any persuasion left, and its only real remaining political issue is migration, which is to say the defense (or wilful negation) of its native cultures.

          That includes defense from American culture, which (western) Europeans find more and more alien and threatening with time, second really only to Muslim culture. You can see this in blatantly foreign religious phenomena like BLM parades in European capital cities where there are no ex-slave “Blacks,” or how English words like “Pride” or “Queer” or “Trans” are imported curiously untranslated directly into native languages.

          People who know how to read see exactly where this is coming from: the same place the latest iPhone model is coming from. The influence of America on all things Weird and Disgusting is palpable, and left and right both are beginning to react to it with their own counter-disgust mechanisms. Anti-Americanism is the only thing left and right share.

          The difference between Europe and America is more extreme now than it has been in generations or centuries, and it will be interesting to see how it plays out. There will be no native left singularity in Europe. It will only happen if imposed upon it by America.

          America is and always has been a land of radicals and absolutists, whereas Europe since WWII has become a rump continent of complacent, comfortable Social Democrats. How they will land in relation to each other over the course of history is unpredictable, but likely has more to do with the fate of America and its choices than anything lazy, complacent Europe will do. Europe is inert and predictable and its future almost mathematically measurable; America still has the choice between Imperial Harvardism or Real Reaction, and likely nothing in between. If America chooses the former, they enter the left singularity and the future belongs (again) to Europe; if the latter, a millennium of Real American Empire.

          The ball, in short, is in America’s court. Will be interesting to watch unfold.

          • Pooch says:

            Anti-Americanism is the only thing left and right share.

            The problem here is that the masses don’t matter. The non-American Western elite seem more Pro-Americanism than America itself.

            Europe is inert and predictable and its future almost mathematically measurable; America still has the choice between Imperial Harvardism or Real Reaction, and likely nothing in between. If America chooses the former, they enter the left singularity and the future belongs (again) to Europe; if the latter, a millennium of Real American Empire.

            The ball, in short, is in America’s court. Will be interesting to watch unfold.

            Indeed. Very hard to predict.

            When Caesar took power in Italy, the elite fled to the Eastern provinces of the Roman Empire and used that as their base of operations to conduct the Civil War against Caesar.

            I could see something similar happen, where if a real Populist uprising were to happen in the US in the way that the American elite fear so deeply, that they would flee to Europe being welcomed in open arms by the European elite and you could see a Civil War of the West conducted that way.

            • ExileStyle says:

              Yes, certain Western vs. Eastern Empire parallels do seem meaningful and translatable in this case. I can envision a sort of fossilized Byzantine perma-Empire in Europe persisting while chaos – if a vital chaos – plays itself out in America, generating a meaningful organizing energy for future global political constellations.

              That said, I do think the EU zone has its own explicitly self-serving plans for the near- to mid-term future. The EU is not *quite* as subjugated to GAE as Eastern was to Western Rome, and Rome of course did not have a Russia (let alone a Russia-China alliance) breathing down its neck either.

              The Eurozone powers have plans to assert themselves definitively in an American power vacuum, and are presently playing a quiet, early-stage Great Powers game with the US. (The whole WEF thing has a lot to do with this btw – cf. the origins of Schwab’s project with the idea of the Euro as a competing currency; WEF was formed almost immediately after end of Bretton Woods/start of Petrodollar, and with the USD in mind). This makes the situation more precarious and competitive than the Roman analogy.

              It remains true that EU and US elites have more in common with each other than with their respective native peoples, but there is a level of serious competition between them that surpasses previous parallels, and could portend a serious competition of powers in future.

              • Pooch says:

                The Eurozone powers have plans to assert themselves definitively in an American power vacuum, and are presently playing a quiet, early-stage Great Powers game with the US.

                This presupposes that the US no longer has military assets in Europe (which today is a fairly large military presence at that).

                For as long as America has troops in Europe, Europe is not sovereign which does parallel the span of the Roman provinces.

                The US may be content to fight Russia at the frontier with Ukrainians, but I tend to think that any incursion of Russia into Europe proper itself, and particularly Western Europe, would provoke the deployment of actual American units. This is territory I imagine the elite would be inclined to contest strongly with the full might of the USM.

                Without American troops in Europe, friendly relations with Russia seems to be the obvious realignment for Europe given their reliance on Russian natural resources.

                • Mister Grumpus says:

                  Saigon yesteryear, Kabul yesterday, Ramstein tomorrow?

                • ExileStyle says:

                  Without American troops in Europe, friendly relations with Russia seems to be the obvious realignment for Europe given their reliance on Russian natural resources.

                  Without American troops, Europe probably reverts to centuries-old pre-WWII dynamics, which generally pit far western Europe against big-middle-block Germany, who always wants to buddy up with Russia in a land-power alliance which, sadly, proves unacceptable to everyone else on the continent.

                  We see the power of that simple geography right now even, in Germany’s slow and reluctant embrace of the sanctions bullshit when they’d much rather just get their natural gas and make their cars and medical equipment and whatever and let the rest of the world play their power games. They’ve been dragging their feet openly through the whole Ukraine thing.

                  A Russia–Germany alliance is what Europe as a whole has been fighting against since the 17th century at the latest…

                  But yeah, I think you’re generally right. Just never underestimate Germany’s fundamental lack of motivation to go along with the world’s plan, how they’re torn between the West and Russia and always have been…

                • Kunning Drueger says:

                  I know it is fantastical in the extreme, but a Polish-Germanic Commonwealth allied with a Restored Russian Empire would be the building block of the Astral Imperium of Man. I’d be happy to live in a balkanized CONUS that is envassaled to either power, forming a Janissarial protectorate. America is better as chunks than a monolith, and we aren’t built to be the governance structure of a Confederation of Terra. Better to be the warrior class of the Sol System, and let the Germanics and Slavs deal with the astral monarchy.

                  Equally phantasmagorical, I can easily envision the Pacific Coast becoming a Chinese frontier, supplying white bodies and brains to the pseudoHan, while the Atlantic Coast becomes the Eastern Empire and lasts ~1000 years.

                  The most optimistic situation would be a full Restoration of the whole Republic to a neoMonarchy. Less optimal but still awesome would be a balkanized US becoming a patchwork Confederation, uniting only to confront invaders. Even less optimistic, but starting to seem more likely is a CONUS divided between Russia and China after the internecine violence abates.

                  If white Christians can weather whatever storm comes to the earth, there’s definitely a place for them in the future, but that’s starting to feel like a pretty big If.

                • Pooch says:

                  The American military defeats China and/or Russia right now in battle.

                  Until I see actual evidence to the contrary, I’m not changing my opinion of that.

                  Afghanistan, like Vietnam, was not American soldiers losing in battle. It was simply the American military testing memes and weapons and then deciding to end the military adventure.

                  The culture of Rome was horribly corrupt, decadent, and degenerate with gay sex and pederasty parades in the capital yet the Roman military continued to dominate foreign foes for centuries.

                • jim says:

                  > The American military defeats China and/or Russia right now in battle.

                  Nuts.

                  The completely ludicrous failure of the British army in recent wars is a leading indicator of how the US army will perform in future wars.

                  US quite recently had the best weapons in the world. Not any more.

                  US troops are demoralized, have a non warrior leadership that is profoundly hostile to the men who compose the tip of its fighting arm, and discipline and morale has collapsed.

                  What afflicted the British army in recent wars is likely to afflict the US army in future wars.

                • Pooch says:

                  The completely ludicrous failure of the British army in recent wars is a leading indicator of how the US army will perform in future wars.

                  Nuts.

                  Comparing the British Army to the American Army is ridiculous and absurd.

                  US troops are demoralized, have a non warrior leadership that is profoundly hostile to the men who compose the tip of its fighting arm, and discipline and morale has collapsed.

                  What afflicted the British army in recent wars is likely to afflict the US army in future wars.

                  Non-warriors have taken control of the USM for sure, but not seeing that discipline and morale have collapsed yet. They have not been tested in battle for some time. When American warriors go to battle, the other side tends to get blown to shit. See Battle of Khasham.

                  Comparing the non-existent British Army to the American Army is absurd because British warriors no longer exist. They are extinct. Bunch of faggots now. The British warrior is dead, give it up.

                  Go to Georgia, South Carolina, Alabama, Florida and the Deep South of the US and you will see the actual warriors that make up the US Army.

                • jim says:

                  Comparing the British Army to the American Army

                  Why?

                  The same ailments now manifest in the British army are now massively manifest in the US army.

                  Those ailments resulted in an army entirely unable to fight in recent wars.

                  > you will see the actual warriors that make up the US Army.

                  Actual warriors are no use without an actual army.

                  The random average nigger can usually defeat the random average white. Two niggers cannot defeat two whites, and a hundred whites can defeat an enormous numbers of niggers.

                  The US army is now not an army of warriors, merely a crowd of warriors.

                • Pooch says:

                  The same ailments now manifest in the British army are now massively manifest in the US army.

                  Those ailments resulted in an army entirely unable to fight in recent wars.

                  After the US saved their ass in WWII they were no longer incentivized to maintain a competent army. Accepted their status as a vassal state to the American Empire which now rules the world.

                  Those ailments resulted in an army entirely unable to fight in recent wars.

                  What wars? The wars where they do 2% of America’s fighting? They have no reason to be fighting wars as a client-state.

                • jim says:

                  The wars where they do 2% of America’s fighting? They have no reason to be fighting wars as a client-state

                  In those wars they repeatedly found themselves in situations where they were about to be wiped out by handful of rifle toting goat herders, and had to be rescued. The problem was not merely that they were disinclined to attack, but unable to defend.

                • Pooch says:

                  Actual warriors are no use without an actual army.

                  The time for a return to warrior rule approaches. Perhaps drones and technology will diminish the importance of warriors, but I tend to think it will not.

                • jim says:

                  The time for warrior leadership is now.

                  Russian army is led by warriors. US army by faggots. Who leads the Chinese army remains to be seen.

                  The military of the future will be mostly staffed by people who can give a drone mission parameters and can penetrate a computer network, rather than by people who can take you down in a fight one on one. But it will need to be led by people, and composed of people, who have the warrior spirit.

                  A particularly decisive victory by the Russians in Ukraine appeared to be a result of the Russians penetrating the computer network used for automatic targeting by recently supplied American artillery. The war of the future is beginning now. But it still takes warriors, just a different kind of warrior, and because the battle front will be everywhere, will need a warrior leadership more than ever.

                • Pooch says:

                  In those wars they repeatedly found themselves in situations where they were about to be wiped out by handful of rifle toting goat herders, and had to be rescued. The problem was not merely that they were disinclined to attack, but unable to defend.

                  They were and are, as well as the rest of the EU, not very incentivized to get that sort of thing right. When you are under protection by a world power, your priorities shift.

                • jim says:

                  > not very incentivized to get that sort of thing right

                  When hostile people are shooting at you and intend to kill you, you are highly incentivized to get that sort of thing right. They had some very close shaves before the US army rescued them.

                  It is not merely that they were disinclined to fight, but when push came to shove, unable to fight.

                • Pooch says:

                  Russian army is led by warriors. US army by faggots.

                  Yes I agree with you there. How long the warrior class of the US army will allow themselves to be led by faggot priests is unknown.

                • The Cominator says:

                  “The military of the future will be mostly staffed by people who can give a drone mission parameters and can penetrate a computer network, rather than by people who can take you down in a fight one on one. But it will need to be led by people, and composed of people, who have the warrior spirit.”

                  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lj1MCjeFxrM

                  Couldn’t resist.

                • Pooch says:

                  But it still takes warriors, just a different kind of warrior, and because the battle front will be everywhere, will need a warrior leadership more than ever.

                  The warrior class has been getting it in the ass for some time now by a priest-merchant alliance. The warriors are starting to get pissed off. Trump, although a merchant himself, was in substantial part a representation of that warrior anger.

                  If the warrior class is to gain back power and return to kingship, going to need leadership yes. Not exactly sure where that leadership will come from. It may very well require war and battle with foreign powers. Or maybe the priest-merchant alliance holds power indefinitely right into the grave of the empire.

                  We are likely in for some turbulence until it’s resolved, turbulence that may very well end with many warrior kings grasping at the crown that were the final days of the Roman Republic.

                • jim says:

                  When the shooting starts, a warrior leadership will win. Trouble is we do not have any candidates for warrior leadership. Trump has a warrior spirit, and his leadership and guidance in the fight against ISIS was absolutely brilliant. Of all military leaders today, he demonstrated the greatest competence. Unfortunately he ran away on January twentieth, and before that failed to call out the militia to protect election integrity, which was and is the only way that you could have an honest election these days.

                  Which failures severely disqualify him.

                • The Cominator says:

                  The merchants are not allied with the priests. Most merchants fucking hate the government.

                • Pooch says:

                  The merchants are not allied with the priests. Most merchants fucking hate the government.

                  Turn on a tv and watch the commercials.

                • jim says:

                  You think Gillette attacked its customers because they love the politicians and hate their customers? I see terror, not love. I have been in the trenches.

                  Human Resources at google threatened to organize a lawsuit against the board in the James Damore incident.

                • The Cominator says:

                  Nothing good on tv anymore, tv is for boomers.

                  Merchants bow to the poz out of fear… the priests have no willing allies except cat ladies and some extra privileged niggers anymore.

                • Pooch says:

                  The Uniparty is manifestation of that alliance. The Democrats are the priests and the Recucklicans are the merchants. They both want mass immigration. The priests for holiness and the merchants for cheap labor.

                • The Cominator says:

                  The establishment Recucklician politicians are not merchants they are a different order of priests…

                • Pooch says:

                  The establishment Recucklician politicians are not merchants they are a different order of priests…

                  Completely bought and paid for by the globocorps.

                • jim says:

                  Nuts.

                  Let me hear your response to this meme.

                  You think Disney destroyed the Star War Franchise because they own the politicians? You think Marvel created faggot Thor because they own the politicians? Who owns whom?

                • The Cominator says:

                  And merchants even if they founded the globocorps are not permitted to run them generally… Musks thinks between his unlimited bribe money and Pentagon connections that the priests can’t touch them… well we shall see.

                • Pooch says:

                  Musks thinks between his unlimited bribe money and Pentagon connections that the priests can’t touch them… well we shall see.

                  Musk is not a merchant. Merchants are concerned with only profits and have no other strong feelings for anything else. Clearly, he is not that. Would not be buying Twitter or building rocket ships if that was the case.

                  He’s an engineer which qualifies him as warrior class in my class dichotomy. Problem is, unlike Trump, he’s a sperg and has no social/emotional intelligence (charisma).

                  Where social and analytical intelligence is brought together is when you get kingship.

                • Pooch says:

                  You think Disney destroyed the Star War Franchise because they own the politicians? You think Marvel created faggot Thor because they own the politicians? Who owns whom?

                  Priest-merchant alliance. They are same group of people and sit on all the boards together.

                • jim says:

                  It is not alliance when one side of the “alliance” sets your business on fire. The Star Wars franchise was destroyed, and Marvel’s superhero comics business has collapsed.

                  I have been inside, and it is not alliance, but terror and terrorism. I saw one of my former bosses physically trembling in fear.

                  And I am still asking you, as I keep asking Anonymous Fake, for a response to our meme. Your stubborn failure to respond is becoming irritating.

                • Pooch says:

                  Human Resources at google threatened to organize a lawsuit against the board in the James Damore incident.

                  And why did no merchants step up to defend James Damore, him being a productive engineer for the company?

                • jim says:

                  Because they would have been financially ruined. Threats of financial ruin were flying around, not all of them nearly as delicately phrased as Pseudo-Chrysostom depicts.

                • Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

                  >priest-merchant alliance

                  To the extent there is a relationship between the regnant gnostic sect and vaishyas in the occident, it is one where the former informs the latter that it is offering its Protection; a lot of bad things out there happening these days, bad things friend, they could even happen to you, if you’re not careful. So of course we want do a favor for you, just follow our advice and things will work out. Its in your best interests, capiche?

                • Pooch says:

                  And I am still asking you, as I keep asking Anonymous Fake, for a response to our meme. Your stubborn failure to respond is becoming irritating.

                  Your last link didn’t even work. Our meme?? You mean Stonetoss’s meme. Stonetoss is obviously making fun of all the negro-white couples being pushed in the ads by the priests, but I don’t care to comment about this further. You can start moderating out my comments if you wish.

                • jim says:

                  > Your last link didn’t even work.

                  Try it again.

                  > Stonetoss is obviously making fun of all the negro-white

                  You are refusing to hear what has been said, refusing to respond to the meme. Your mind stops when it you get to the punchline. You describe the meme as if the last two images and two sentences were absent. Crimestop makes you blind.

                  Crimestop makes you refuse to see what he depicts. All the rest of the meme is just setup for the punchline, and when you reach the punchline, your mind shuts down.

                  You describe the setup for the joke, and then stop. If you stop at the setup, your mind is shying away from the punchline in fear.

                  The point of joke is always in the punchline, and when a meme is in the form of a joke, the point of a meme is always in the punchline. It is not random decoration. It is the point.

                  I ask you, and I ask Anonymous fake, to respond to punchline. What else would I be asking?

                • Pooch says:

                  The ad creator is not interested in selling burgers, just interested in pushing black holiness. It’s a funny meme. I laughed out loud when it was circulating. What am I missing?

                • jim says:

                  You are missing that the adman is not interested, and does not need to be interested, in what the boss wants.

                  Which implies an environment where the boss is not able to hire those who will contribute to the bottom line, and fire those who will not contribute to the bottomline, implies the powerlessness of the boss, the directors, and the shareholders, what you are calling the merchant part of the merchant priest alliance, to control their own property and use it for their own interests.

                  A joke usually has element of conflict to make it funny. That is the element of conflict that makes it funny. It is that conflict that you are missing.

                  The adman is not interested in contributing to the bottom line, and it does not even occur to him that he is supposed to have some lie ready to explain that he actually is contributing to the bottom line.

                  The boss asks for the lie, does not get it.

                • Pooch says:

                  I ask you, and I ask Anonymous fake, to respond to punchline. What else would I be asking?

                  No f’ing clue man. My response is laughter because it’s funny.

                • The Cominator says:

                  Pooch Jim is saying more often than not merchants, the owners of capitalist enterprises mostly go along with globohomo out of fear as globohomo controls the vast american leviathan state which can ruin them via legal persecution either of their companies or them personally.

                  Do you dispute this? Its not an alliance when your ally is pointing a gun at your head.

                • Adam says:

                  The priesthood was woke long before the merchants were. One could speculate that some merchants cater to woke consumers. And you could argue that the true believer progressive merchants are just as stupidly self destructive as our true believer progressive elite.

                  There is no doubt enormous priestly pressure on merchants, and likely not much of any merchant pressure on priests.

                  Ford is not telling regulators what the new emissions standards are. Harvard is telling Ford comply with the new emissions standards or else.

                • jim says:

                  A joke is funny, when someone seemingly powerful, is suddenly revealed as powerless.

                  This meme is funny because the boss, what Pooch is calling the merchant priest alliance, is suddenly revealed as powerless, when the adman feels no need to have the lie his boss expects ready.

                  Which point Pooch is stubbornly evading.

                • Adam says:

                  Let’s not forget the never ending shill campaign against imperialism aimed at the defense contractors, warriors, and natural resource merchants. Hell the civil war story is more priests beating up merchants for insufficient progressivism.

                  I really hate priests honestly. They just fuck everything up.

                • Wulfgar Thundercock III says:

                  Pooch, if you are not seeing the collapse of morale and discipline, then you are studiously not looking for it.

                • jim says:

                  I see lots of things Pooch is studiously not looking for.

                • Starman says:

                  @Pooch

                  “The American military defeats China and/or Russia right now in battle.”

                  Pooch once again demonstrates that he is a mediocre midwit who shits up the comment sections of Jim’s Blog.

                • alf says:

                  Same goes for immigration. Merchants and priests are not allies.

                  Merchants want cheap labor. In the Netherlands that means Poles or other Eastern Europeans. They come here a couple of months, work, take their paycheck home where the money is worth more — everyone happy.

                  Contrast with priest immigration — they couldn’t care less about the Polish. They want Moroccans, Sumalians and other African subraces to move here permanently, precisely because they add no value and only cause trouble.

                • Pooch says:

                  Merchants want cheap labor. In the Netherlands that means Poles or other Eastern Europeans. They come here a couple of months, work, take their paycheck home where the money is worth more — everyone happy.

                  Very well may be the case in Europe. In the US, it means infinite mainly brown Hispanic manual laborers who speak no English. For the higher skilled jobs they’ll get Indians and Chinese.

                • Pooch says:

                  It is not alliance when one side of the “alliance” sets your business on fire. The Star Wars franchise was destroyed, and Marvel’s superhero comics business has collapsed.

                  Absurd and ridiculous. Disney is scooping money hand over fist. Their monopoly is secure and protected by the politicians. Their profits are growing not shrinking. To think otherwise is Vox Day-tier Patriots in Control Q larping.

                  The alliance works as such: the globocorps accept to push their priestly memes and get a protected monopoly (or oligopoly) in return. Of course the priests get a handsome cut of the profits.

                  There’s a carrot and a stick at play. If a globocorp doesn’t play ball the eye of Sauron may very well fall upon them, but if they play ball more fervently than the competition they can and will be rewarded with all kinds of favorable treatment by the government.

                  There is tremendous incentive for the globocorps to go hard woke. Go woke go broke is a failed meme. You’ll find these globocorps are actually making money hand over fist in a protected oligopoly. What a coincidence.

                • Pooch says:

                  Hispanic manual laborers who speak no English. For the higher skilled jobs they’ll get Indians and Chinese.

                  All who most certainly stay and do not return to their country of origin.

                • Pooch says:

                  Ford is not telling regulators what the new emissions standards are. Harvard is telling Ford comply with the new emissions standards or else.

                  Ford donates massive sums of money to the politicians and priestly organizations. It’s in the politicians interest, if they want that donor money to continue to flow, to protect Ford’s profits and place in the oligopoly.

                • Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

                  You’re being slippery with your definitions here my crypto-commie friend. You said ‘merchants’ in general, yet when pressed for elaboration start talking about cronies in particular.

                  Looks to me like merchant men in general are getting assfucked good and hard and deep by all this, while a few kinglets stand on top of the rubblepile left over. Same pattern you see in leftisms in everything everywhere.

                • Pooch says:

                  You’re being slippery with your definitions here my crypto-commie friend.

                  I’m the crypto-commie friend? The system we have now is not free market capitalism like the normie Republicans would have you believe. In fact it is crypto-communism and I’m attacking it.

                  America is a communist country. Large swaths of the economy are dominated by a few globocorps in most sectors, in other words oligopolies. I am attacking oligopolies.

                  How does that make me a commie?

                • Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

                  The crypto-commie thoughtform you are being possessed by here is the idea of a ‘merchant-priest alliance’, as if merchant-men are peers, primary agents, or in any way equal partners in this picture.

                  The phenomena of wokecorps is not one of merchants making priests more merchant-like, but priests making merchants more priestlike. A wokecorp is defined by its unusual priestliness, not unusual merchantness.

                • Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

                  By imputing primacy to merchants in this picture, it is to say that ‘the inevitable result of market economics is communism’, which is the classic commie meme par excellence.

                  The communist believes all economies are already command economies, and he merely suggests replacing the comptroller-general presently sitting in a shadowy office in wall street with himself instead.

                • @Pooch,

                  The stonetoss comic is as subtle as a sledgehammer. You are not anonymous fake. I expected that long term non-shill commenters on jimblog would know the basics of the priest-warrior-merchant dynamics by now.

              • The Cominator says:

                Or legally targetted ala Conrad Black.

      • Mister Grumpus says:

        @alf:
        “They’ll wreck everything else — energy grids, industry, agriculture, that sort of stuff.”

        Dude that’s pretty fucking bad though. A hands-off genocide through incompetence alone. There’s nothing that atomized individuals can do to help themselves in that situation.

        Consider South African whites. They’re just obeying and obeying right into the grave.

        • Starman says:

          @Mister Grumpus

          “Consider South African whites. They’re just obeying and obeying right into the grave.”

          Private Military Companies vastly outnumber the SA police and military combined.

          Local communities simply ignore the government’s rules except for taxes and bribes to the ANC.

        • Kunning Drueger says:

          It is neither fair nor accurate to paint all real South Africans with the same yellow hue of the urban cucks. Conscious Caracal is someone you should look into.

          • ExileStyle says:

            Yeah, some of the most authentically based people in the world are white South Africans. Not just theory for them, they know what they’re talking about.

        • alf says:

          I’m not disagreeing uncle Grump. We must unatomize ourselves (‘molecule’ ourselves? Man I’ll let myself out…)

      • Starman says:

        @alf

        “I no longer believe in a Cambodia style leftist singularity of infinite leftism in finite time. I believe the progs would do it if they could, but I don’t think they can. Not enough masculinity left among their ranks. They’ll wreck everything else — energy grids, industry, agriculture, that sort of stuff. But they lack the power to pull off true revolutionary matters. It’s not 1900 AD Russia, it’s 200 AD Rome.

        I think that goes for Europe as well as America, but I’d feel even better about America considering they have lots of guns.”

        Exactly. Afghanistan and recent events have revealed the progs and their ZOGbots to be nothing more than a paper tiger. A conclusion that Putin himself has made.

        You now have professional Russian and Chinese diplomats abandoning diplomatic turns of phrase, and openly mocking the United States government. Openly stating that the European countries are vassal states of the US.

        https://www.rt.com/russia/557337-lavrov-uk-relations-room/
        https://youtu.be/xUVPBUi06ak

        • Kunning Drueger says:

          I don’t know if it’s just resonant “muh American exceptionalism” or what, but I don’t think they’re as far along as you portray, at least in terms of France in 1941. That’s an accurate analog to your position, right? France still had a functioning military and Navy, which was surrendered by their leadership.

          The withdrawal from AFG is complicated; you have the failure of the withdrawal, but you also had a bunch of PMCs and ad hoc units go in and pull people out pretty successfully. I wonder how quickly GAE will turn to mercenaries when their regulars start collapsing, or if they even could.

          • Pooch says:

            The withdrawal from AFG is complicated; you have the failure of the withdrawal, but you also had a bunch of PMCs and ad hoc units go in and pull people out pretty successfully. I wonder how quickly GAE will turn to mercenaries when their regulars start collapsing, or if they even could.

            I think it may be premature to view Afghanistan (or Iraq or Vietnam) as collapse of USM capability. There was no actual will to fight there.

            Afghanistan and Iraq were essentially testing grounds for memeing the local population into defending territory for us so actual US soldiers didn’t have to. Failed miserably against Jihadism, a formidable faith.

            Not failing miserably in Ukraine.

            • Pax Imperialis says:

              Essentially testing grounds for new toys courtesy of Raytheon and the American tax payer.

              At a certain point, I don’t know when (early 2010s?), it felt like in DoD approximate circles there was more interest in playing around in the Sandbox than achieving anything.

              Sandbox or Sandpit was the slang for Iraq. Think about the connotations of that terminology being used.

              Lots of young guys joined the military in the 2010s to go on an adventure and see pink mist. There was no energy to defend anything.

              It was mostly State Department that wanted to build something, and Pentagon bureaucracy that paid lip service.

              • Pooch says:

                Lots of young guys joined the military in the 2010s to go on an adventure and see pink mist. There was no energy to defend anything.

                It was mostly State Department that wanted to build something, and Pentagon bureaucracy that paid lip service.

                Completely agree. It was military adventurism and a sandbox for memes and weapons.

                Contrast this how the elite would act against an enemy which they have real hatred for like Trump supporters. You’d see nukes, chemical weapons, you name it being deployed.

      • Wulfgar Thundercock III says:

        I think they are going to attempt infinite leftism in finite time. That they will fail does not mean they will not give it the old college try. I do agree that our situation more closely resembles late Rome, but we do have a live state religion. That will mean differences in the way things play out, but not severe differences. The advantages that they gain from having a live state religion are going to be offset by their absolute void of manly virtue. Yes, they can organize, but the organized American left is probably less effective than disorganized Roman elite.

        • Pooch says:

          Yes, they can organize, but the organized American left is probably less effective than disorganized Roman elite

          When Caesar marched on Rome, the Roman elite were extremely ineffective and disorganized. They had no choice but to back Pompey, a former Populist who they also viewed as a threat to their rule, knowing full well that a victory may very well be the start of a Pompian monarchy instead of Caesarian one.

          • Pooch says:

            I agree with your premise though, that we track with Rome more closely.

            • Kunning Drueger says:

              Sometimes it seems more like the Austria-Hungarian Empire to me, but my historical grasp of that entity and era is weak. Do you think we always compare it to Rome because it’s accurate, or because we esteem ourselves their peers? There are absolutely socio-cultural parallels, but the Roman Republic was a lot more long lived when the conversion to Empire occured than we are, right? How many civil wars or near misses occured prior to Octavian’s rise?

              • Pooch says:

                Do you think we always compare it to Rome because it’s accurate, or because we esteem ourselves their peers?

                Too many parallels to count and the fact that Rome was a world power in the same way that America is a world power now. Not seeing any closer parallel in that regard.

                There are absolutely socio-cultural parallels, but the Roman Republic was a lot more long lived when the conversion to Empire occured than we are, right?

                The Roman Republic lasted very long before it transitioned back to a monarchy. Our republic is likely not going to last that long but it is not done yet. Technology may have an effect on this longevity or lack there of.

                How many civil wars or near misses occured prior to Octavian’s rise?

                Well we haven’t seen our Octavian yet. We may very well be in for considerable bloodshed and war before then.

      • jim says:

        > I no longer believe in a Cambodia style leftist singularity of infinite leftism in finite time. I believe the progs would do it if they could, but I don’t think they can

        They are giving it a damned good try. The worshipers of the mighty and awesome Covid demon want another go, while the sodomites are moving fast to make K9 to K12 classes into transsexual child whorehouses.

        But the war faction faction is in the driver’s seat. And they have just launched another, larger, act of war against Russia. They have launched a blockade of Kalingrad, Russia’s only warm water port to the Atlantic. The Russians have promised consequences, which consequences will likely be an act of war against a member of the Nato alliance.

        If I was in Putin’s shoes I would cut to the chase and nuke Vilnius. Putin will probably take a slower, more indirect, costly, dangerous, and less effective path, but will find himself winding up at the same destination anyway.

        Putin will engage in the smallest possible act of war against a member of NATO, to which NATO will respond with another, larger, act of war, and in the end, he will have to nuke Vilnius, and then we shall learn if US nukes still work. Or maybe the US military will interrupt the process, remove the war faction, and install the Covidians or the K9 sodomites in the driver’s seat. But I suspect the US Military will not find the balls to remove the war faction until Vilnius is nuked, and taking the long and indirect path gives the war faction more time and opportunity to cement its power against the faggots and the worshipers of the Mighty and Awesome Covid demon.

        • Globalist Power Terminated 2 says:

          If I was in Putin’s shoes I would cut to the chase and nuke Vilnius.

          If or when he does so, globalist power wiill be terminated — PRAISE GNON!

        • Wulfgar Thundercock III says:

          I hope the military faction actually succeeds and that Putin gives them the time they need. If the demon cultists win, it will plunge the whole world into chaos. Let the military swordfight with Russia, and maybe we will get our Caesar, Cromwell, or Stalin from it.

          • jim says:

            The Military faction is different to, and opposed to, the war faction. With the upper ranks purged of warriors, the upper ranks do not want, and never expected, to be put in the warrior role, and are vigorously declining what the war faction is asking of them.

            For the war faction to create a Caesar, as the military expansionist faction of the French Revolutionaries created Napoleon, they are going to have to put some warriors into the upper ranks, as the French Revolutionaries put Napoleon and the Puritans put Cromwell.

          • The Cominator says:

            The war faction is classic bluegov redgov as pozzed as they are… they are sane enough to worry about Russian nukes.

            • Red says:

              The war faction is classic bluegov redgov as pozzed as they are… they are sane enough to worry about Russian nukes.

              I’m not seeing it. Every thing I read from them is that Russia doesn’t have the balls to use nukes. We appear to be walking into a slow tit for tat sort of exchange that will walk us right into nuclear war.

              • jim says:

                Russia may well back down over the blockade. That is what the Global American Empire are betting. They might be right. But suppose Russia does not backdown, then slow walk or fast walk to nukes.

                Suppose Russia does backdown. Well, then the Global American Empire will in due course try something else. And sooner or later, Russia will, belatedly, decide that backing down does not buy peace.

                And then slow walk or fast walk to nukes.

        • Mister Grumpus says:

          ‘Kaliningrad’
          Fix above and delete this

        • Jehu says:

          I tend to think similarly. When considering an escalation path, I consider the likely response at each level and tend to look to find the first path that has a likely acceptable response, and then jump to it immediately with no warning.

          This generates good results at a schoolyard level if someone is doing a typical bully dance where they expect you to deescalate at each opportunity while they progressively escalate. Immediately jumping your violence level to 100% means you can usually take aggressors that are stronger than you on paper. The problem is that when nukes are involved you’re basically guaranteed to see them used in a number of historical situations if you have someone that thinks like you or I in power.

          Why? Because the first level at which the likely response by the other player is acceptable might well be after you’re launched a devastating decapitating strike and Instagrammed their Second Strike submariners with things like—I see your family is centered around these towns out in flyover country. We don’t have them on our nuke list now, but…should your submarine launch, you can be assured that your bloodline will be terminated in nuclear fire. On the other hand, if you don’t launch, we’ll make it worth your while.

          • jim says:

            > This generates good results at a schoolyard level if someone is doing a typical bully dance where they expect you to deescalate at each opportunity while they progressively escalate.

            When you are on a path that you know will end in terrible violence and very likely death, but the other guy expects that you will back down half way along the road, you can avoid the terrible violence by immediately jumping to the last step on the road just before death or serious injury, and skipping all the intermediate posturing and pissing around.

            I speak from experience.

            The more slow small steps you take along the path, the more the both of you are going to get locked into that final outcome.

            Nuking Vilnius tomorrow noon would greatly reduce the risk of total all out nuclear war.

            • Jehu says:

              Going full monty on nuking NATO probably has the best expected value, not just nuking Vilnius. Nuking Vilnius is likely to draw a ‘proportionate’ response that leads to a cycle of nuclear escalation.

              • jim says:

                When you are on a path that you know will end in terrible violence and very likely death, but the other guy expects that you will back down half way along the road and is probing to find the minimum violence required to extract submission, and since submission is not going to be forthcoming you know where the road leads, but he does not, you can avoid the terrible violence by immediately jumping to the last step on the road just before death or serious injury, and skipping all the intermediate posturing and pissing around.

                I speak from experience.

                The more slow small steps you take along the path, the more the both of you are going to get locked into that final outcome.

                Nuking Vilnius tomorrow at noon would greatly reduce the risk of total all out nuclear war. By escalating faster than the other guy, you convincingly signal to him that there is a high likelihood that you will go right on escalating to the final outcome should he continue to escalate. It is a costly signal. When you are on the path to escalation, you are on that path because your opponent does not believe your cheap signals and has to be convinced that submission is not forthcoming.

                Invading Ukraine was an insufficiently expensive signal. It is obvious the Global American Empire was not persuaded. A much more convincing signal is required.

                But going all the way to nuking NATO is not necessarily required. Nuking Vilnius at noon tomorrow would very likely suffice.

                The leadership of the war faction would likely not be convinced, but NATO would know that the next step is nuking NATO. No intermediate steps would remain. If the war faction continued, as it very likely would, it would find its hands full with a NATO war defection.

                • Jehu says:

                  You say likely, and I agree it might have a 50/50 chance of working—by working, I mean GAE capitulates and stops ‘not war’ immediately and less insane factions of it take control. But I wouldn’t put nuking Vilnius at any more than a 50/50 of achieving that outcome. I see a high probability that Kalingrad is nuked or at least fuel-air bombed in response. And the insanity of that response could come from a fair number of different NATO players. Thus my estimate of 50/50 at best. And if the response comes, it’s off to the races.

                  On the other hand, if you go full Monty, you probably achieve strategic and tactical surprise and your expected losses are a lot smaller. Some of their nukes won’t work, most will be destroyed on the ground, and you’ll be able to blackmail most of the rest into not launching.
                  My gut is the full monty is the best play in terms of expected value.

                • Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

                  What Putin really needs to start doing yesterday is memeing the doom of major globohomo instigators around ukraine into the ground of Being.

                  First you start with one: pick a particularly egregious or emblematic swamp creature, pull up a selection of their words, actions, and associates, and issue dire op-eds that their conduct could unfortunately result in ‘undesirable consequences’ for the world in general and themselves in particular. When they inevitably persist, the prognostications of doom both intensify and become more pointed – ‘will not someone rid us of this turbulent priests?’, natch. And, when they inevitably persist again in this case, you stuff a Khinzal down their chimney.

                  Everyone paying attention in the world is put on notice. The leadership of globohomo is perfectly willing to fight Russia to the last ukrainian – the obvious solution then, is to make it so you can put *them* on the ‘front lines’.

                  Killing enemy leadership is effective. Killing reprobates in response to behavior is also a message. And the most effective message is one where everyone hears about who you made an example of when their behavior displeased you, and why it displeased you. The polygon itself does this all the time, dogwhistling the normalization of an intended action before it even happens, such that by the time you actually do it, it is practically a fait accompli.

                  Its hard to express how far reaching the effects of this can be. The level of sheer atomization in the occident is such that there are significant factions that won’t care at all if the apparatchiks are getting killed, and many who will cheer it on even.

                  Of course in the beginning they will raise a huge uproar about it on the outlets of their megaphone – feeling, for one of the first times in their lives, the cold grip of reality, reaching through their ideosocial bubble, circling around their hearts – to try and get the grill-pillers worked up on their side as they always do. But then the inevitable thought occurs – “hey, i never actually liked these guys”; and “hey, they aren’t actually unkillable or all powerful”; and “hey, they can’t actually guarantee success in punishing me if i speak against them, like i used to unconsciously assume”. Once those leads connect together to form a circuit in folk’s minds, everything becomes in flux. Once those cards are put on the table, everything becomes a whole lot more Dynamic than previously expected.

                  The day before, it’s a circular firing squad. The day after, it’s “lol why don’t you try, see how much you like an early hypersonic christmas present”. Cascading apostasy events.

                • Wulfgar Thundercock III says:

                  All I want for Christmas is an Iskander! If such a thing happens, we need to meme a Santa hat and a Santa bag of cruise missiles on the picture of Putin riding a bear shirtless.

                • Red says:

                  I see a high probability that Kalingrad is nuked or at least fuel-air bombed in response. And the insanity of that response could come from a fair number of different NATO players. Thus my estimate of 50/50 at best. And if the response comes, it’s off to the races.

                  Jim’s got the right of this. While the war party would like to nuke Kalingrad in return it’s unlikely their orders would be obeyed. Someone who orders an action only to have it ignored will soon be removed from power.

                  Once people believe that Russia will nuke them if they don’t stop the endless escalation they’re very likely to stop. In order to demonstrate this willingness a righteous example has to be made.

                • Red says:

                  When you are on a path that you know will end in terrible violence and very likely death, but the other guy expects that you will back down half way along the road and is probing to find the minimum violence required to extract submission, and since submission is not going to be forthcoming you know where the road leads, but he does not, you can avoid the terrible violence by immediately jumping to the last step on the road just before death or serious injury, and skipping all the intermediate posturing and pissing around.

                  I speak from experience.

                  Warning shots used to be common for this very reason. Having an actual bullet flying near you tends to sober up ones perspective.

                • Wulfgar Thundercock III says:

                  There is a term for that sort of escalation, but I cannot remember it. Jumping immediately to a level your opponent is not psychologically prepared to go so that they back down before they can psych themselves up to match you. Especially if you are letting the other guy know it will come down hard on him.

                • Adam says:

                  Initiative.

        • Mister Grumpus says:

          Not exactly arguing with your “nuke Vilnius” prescription, but connecting to the port Saint Petersburg via ships is still an option. For winter they have some great icebreakers that can keep a corridor open.

          I know. They’ll up the blockade some other way next.

          A counterpoint though is that time is probably working against the GAE harder than it’s working against Russia. Does this not advocate juking NATO and playing for time?

    • Pax Imperialis says:

      Genocides, like those seen in Asia, are fairly unique in history. Those genocides tends to be fairly comprehensive, thorough, and efficiently organized (The Nazis were fairly inefficient at killing regardless of all their camps, railroads, industrial management compared to the Soviets who manged similar numbers in under a year in Ukraine for significantly less cost). The collective nature of rice agriculture, clan structure, and resultant social networks allow for organized violence rarely seen in the west. (In some ways Russia far more resembles Asia)

      You would be better off trying to find similarities between conditions leading up to genocides in Europe (or committed by Europeans) and the current American situation, than looking at something completely alien. That said, America is hardly European anymore. 1/5 of new marriages are between Whites and Hispanics. Demographic and social structure has far more in common with South American nations like Chile, Brazil, or Argentina.

      Whiter than Mexico, but darker than Argentina, and also more Asian than both. It brings up an interesting question of what genocides look like in Hispanic nations.

      ___________________________________

      Genocide doesn’t pop out of nothing, it requires a cohesive group organization to carry it out against other cohesive (thus identifiable) groups.

      I posit these modifications to your premise:

      “A leftist singularity, cheered on by Harvard, firewalled within sociological and geographic isolation within American coastal and university cities, though it does leak out it does so at a much slower pace.”

      “A ruling class/regime, and general population in close proximity to the regime, purged of anyone smart enough to understand what’s going wrong and why.”

      The US is big in geographic terms as well as sociological terms. It is too fragmented and heterogeneous for large scale cohesive genocide carried out from the top. The leftist singularity is too isolated within ruling class and proximate populations.

      The type of genocide seen in Cambodia or other Asian countries were not carried out by rainbow coalitions but in contrast extremely homogeneous populations. US leftist singularity is a rainbow coalition of BIPOCLGBTQIA+++++WTFs and their most upper class white “allies.”

      In short, America is highly decentralized and heterogeneous. Closest example pre-genocide circumstance would be Yugoslavia and even that is a stretch to use an all Slavic example.

      Most likely outcome for America is slow disintigration into Brazilian or Argentinian style domestic conflict. Conflict that is constant, decentralized, partly racial at times and partly nonracial at others. Expect lots of political assassinations that due to the extensive multitude of competing factions, can’t fit any single narrative. Few enough Blacks you don’t end up like South Africa. Enough civilized folk to wall themselves off from the dysfunction or live far away. Enough intermediates to keep social distance between the low and high ends.

      • Fake says:

        >It brings up an interesting question of what genocides look like in Hispanic nations.

        Iirc, Argentina has few blacks because during yellow fever outbreaks, the black communities were walled up. Everyone got it and died, or maybe starved. There’s also something about blacks being sent to the front lines in the Falkland wars, but I can’t sift through revisionist history to tell how much truth there is.

      • jim says:

        > The type of genocide seen in Cambodia or other Asian countries were not carried out by rainbow coalitions but in contrast extremely homogeneous populations. US leftist singularity is a rainbow coalition of BIPOCLGBTQIA+++++WTFs and their most upper class white “allies.”

        There are four factions contending for power, with the war faction currently in the saddle, and currently, alarmed by the worshipers of the Mighty and Awesome Covid Demon grabbing for total, absolute, and complete power, keeping the Covidians down.

        The sodomite faction and Gaia worshiper factions are as heterogenous as you describe. The war faction Jewish, and the Covidian faction white and Catholic. Hence well placed to make a grab for total power, and well placed to carry out a Cambodian style autogenocide. If the total power grab by the Covidian faction had succeeded, would have proceeded to autogenocide by endless boosting, and if endless boosting with the old vaccine failed to do the trick, would have introduced a new and even deadlier vaccine.

        If the sodomite faction gains the upper hand, the faction that wants to sodomize small boys and girls is fairly homogeneous and quite capable of cohesive action, and may well grab absolute power from the other wildly diverse sexual deviations. The war faction is less likely to commit autogenocide, and more likely to get us into great power war, but when Jews get the upper hand, as in the Soviet Union from 1916 to 1932, they are impressively genocidal towards the host population. The Jewish faction currently rules Kiev, and is starting to look distinctly autogenocidal.

        > In short, America is highly decentralized.

        The way the big steal in 2020 was carried out in 2020 demonstrates highly centralized.

        Similarly, when midway through the Republican primary season, they decided they had to steal the primaries, from there on not only was every primary in every Republican State of the Union stolen, but analogous measures against the outer party started simultaneously in every state of the Global American Empire.

        Similarly the attempt at autogenocide by vax, with equivalent measures being applied against dissident doctors simultaneously in every state of the Global American Empire in perfect synchrony.

        • Anonymous Fake says:

          [*deleted*]

          • jim says:

            I would have allowed that through and answered it, for it contains important half truths that should be addressed. But you have been banging on endlessly on the shill meme about woke capitalism (which I have been deleting endlessly after the first half dozen repetitions) and I recently posted the meme warrior reply, which encapsulates the pith of the reactionary position, and I want you to respond to that meme. So I am just not going let anything of yours through until you actually give me a response.

            I asked you for script expansion, not just the same old script, and what I just deleted is script expansion. But it is not enough. Respond to the meme warrior response to the shill meme on woke capitalism.

            During our entire conversation you have been completely unresponsive, and I am tired of it. I want a reply.

            • Anonymous Fake says:

              I cannot reason with liars. Woke capital [*deleted for all the usual reasons, you have said it all before*]

              • jim says:

                I asked for a response to this meme.

                This is not a response to that meme.

                If the meme is a lie, or if I am a liar, explain in what that meme is untrue, rather than just giving us the same old Harvard from the child molesting sodomites, very thinly disgused as anti sodomite rant.

                • Adam says:

                  Rename him anonymous faggot until he starts to cooperate.

                • Neurotoxin says:

                  I was about to say that surely we’ve learned all there is to learn about Anonymous Fake’s shilling style and goals, so he should be perma-banned.

                  But then it occurred to me that if he’s shilling here, where everyone knows he’s a shill, his fangs are pulled. And if Jim were to ban him he’d go somewhere else where they might not be as sophisticated about dealing with shills.

                  On the gripping hand, he’s fucking annoying.

                • Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

                  Im 49% sure the reason why he has continued inexhaustibly trying to post here in spite of continual frustration of all efforts for years, is because it literally is a chatbot script.

                  Even a bugman will get burned out eventually. That’s just a matter of sheer psychological physics. Not this guy though; like clockwork, he’s always on it; always replying, and never responding.

                • Anonymous Fake says:

                  The meme shows the final consequence of advertising, when you go down the path of manipulating someone’s sentiments it ends in sexual revolution. Burgers are a commodity and attempting to make something more of them by “selling the sizzle” eventually results in absurdity.

                  The guy selling sodomy thinks it sells anything and unfortunately it usually does. He’s a true believer, not a commissar, as a commissar wouldn’t get a confused response from the boss.

                • jim says:

                  This is a flat out barefaced denial of what the meme plainly says.

                  The adman does not think his job is selling his bosses burgers, and is not interested in using sex to sell them, or using anything else to sell them. He is selling interracial sex.

                  I asked you to respond to or reply to the meme. Simply ignoring what it says is not a response, and I insist on a response.

                • alf says:

                  “The final consequence of advertising” 😂

                  Your marxism is showing.

                • Globalist Power Terminated II says:

                  The meme shows the final consequence of advertising, when you go down the path of manipulating someone’s sentiments it ends in sexual revolution.

                  What the fuck is this guy on — this is just next-level retarded.

                • jim says:

                  Protective stupidity.

                • Wulfgar Thundercock III says:

                  Avoiding the gaze of Medusa. If you match gazes with Medusa you are turned to stone and die. If you stare into the abyss long enough the abyss stares back, and you become the abyss. The Gorgon’s Abyss is the leftist’s inability to respond to rightist memes lest he become marked by them, and die at the hands of other leftists.

                • Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

                  >The guy selling sodomy thinks it sells anything and unfortunately it usually does.

                  In other words, the guy selling sodomy is you because you love sodomy and think it should be put in everything, irrespective of whatever ostensible purpose [thing] used to have, and think everyone also thinks like you.

                • someDude says:

                  Anonymous Fake’s Scientific worldview: When you pull out the wings of a bird, it goes deaf since it no longer responds to your command to fly away.

                • Globalist Power Terminated II says:

                  Anonymous Fake’s Scientific worldview: When you pull out the wings of a bird, it goes deaf since it no longer responds to your command to fly away.

                  This is exactly the sort of thing he would say unironically.

                • Cloudswrest says:

                  Im 49% sure the reason why he has continued inexhaustibly trying to post here in spite of continual frustration of all efforts for years, is because it literally is a chatbot script.

                  This is actually kind of funny when you think about it. People wasting their time arguing with a robot. Quite labor saving from the shills’ point of view. This got me thinking though. Some of the AIs nowadays are pretty competent, but they are hindered by their owners trying to keep them from becoming “racist”. I wonder if there are any “big iron” AI owners who are not so hindered and train their AIs on places like Jim’s Blog?

                • Neurotoxin says:

                  Anon Fake: “The guy selling sodomy thinks it sells anything and unfortunately it usually does.”

                  LOL, all those normies saying, “Hey, that burger joint advocates sodomy; let’s patronize them.”

                  Now he’s just trolling us.

              • We really must build a museum to hold some of Anonymous Fake’s particularly brilliant insights of wisdom lest they get lost in the mists of time.

        • restitutor_orbis says:

          I am increasingly worried that the attempted autogenocide by vax might turn out to be a successful attempt. The number of people I know who are suffering unexpected cancers, strokes, and so on, or who have a lost family to the same, has made me update the risk of mass die-off from “a scary but unlikely outcome” to “a plausible situation.”

          How do you see things playing out if a lot of people start dying from “sudden adult death syndrome” in the next few years?

          • jim says:

            The purebloods are already saying “I told you so”, but nobody hears, or rather no one admits to hearing.

            • someDude says:

              I fear that they will hear only too well and start attacking purebloods soon. Most people have the mentality of Anonymous Fake. All their anger and rage will be channeled towards those who escaped harm rather than those who harmed them.

              • Jehu says:

                It’s perverted, but sadly oh so common. They can not deny their rage. But if they directed it at those that have power, they fear they’d be punished. So they deflect it onto those they think they can attack without punishment.

                What’s the fancy name for that? Displacement.

          • Karl says:

            Why are you worried that the attempted autogenocide by vax might turn out to be a successful attempt?

            Look at who is vaxxed and who is not. There is more reason to hope than to worry.

            • restitutor_orbis says:

              That’s a fair question. The honest answer is that most of my friends and family took the vax. Vaccine genocide means the loss of essentially everyone I care about, with two exceptions (my wife and my elderly mother).

              And it’s not like these are leftists who deserve what they get. All of my remaining family and friends are right-leaning (the leftists long ago cut me off); it’s just that they are normies. They believed the vaccine was safe because Trump said it was, and they took it. I don’t wish anything ill to befall them. But illness is already starting to befall them. 🙁

              • Yul Bornhold says:

                So far, vax seems to kill a small (but noticeable) amount of people but, for most, simply damaging health, like seed oils. Don’t know yet whether it will prove fatal long term for most people. Hope not. Like you, I’ve some family who took it.

              • The Cominator says:

                What part of the country are you in? I don’t see that many right leaning people took the vax here in Florida… and as much as I love the politics of Florida I can’t say I’m surrounded by critical thinking intellectuals as opposed to right wing normies.

            • Pooch says:

              Vaccine genocide (outright murder) doesn’t fit with the past actions of the elite. Infertility of the population would align better.

              • jim says:

                One shot of vaccine drops sperm production considerably. In twenty percent of men, to zero.

                • Pooch says:

                  Any information of the effect on female fertility?

                • jim says:

                  Spontaneous abortions and irregular menstruation – probably as some men fail to produce sperm, some women fail to produce eggs.

        • Pax Imperialis says:

          The American left is a coalition of a multitude of competing factions. That is not too dissimilar to the Spanish left prior to their civil war. Too much factionalism and it fails to operate. The left are united in a shared disdain and even hatred of White America. The left is also united due to shared necessity. The war party can enforce what the other factions want, but the other faction have the vote banks that the war party needs. The war party is the belt strap that holds the left together.

          Problem with that setup is that the competent leadership of the war faction is old and dying off. The belt might just come off… Political rearrangement would occur.

          White America is rapidly disappearing… unless Hispanics are considered White. Without a clear racial enemy, the left will increasingly incorporate traditional class warfare as seen in Latin America. We see that with AOC and Sanders rise in the party.

          More likely than genocide is the type of conflict as seen in the Spanish Civil War or the targeting of Catholics in Mexico. Lots of atrocities and mass killings by leftists, but nowhere at the level of Cambodia. Not to say they don’t want to, they certainly do. It’s a question of capability to carry out organized systematic killings.

          On the question of centralized vs decentralized America is both. There are centralized elements as you point out, but that’s missing the Forrest for the trees. Overall America is fairly decentralized. The difference between a New Yorker and a Chicagoan is likely large than the difference between a German and a French. The difference between an Austin Texan and a Dallas Texan is also massive. Even in White America prior to mass immigration in the 60s there is tremendous cultural variance.

          American culture is decentralized which leads to wide variation in political values and expression and thus a multi-polar power competition within the US.

  13. Pooch says:

    Very powerful video…

    https://youtu.be/Ygz8Z1Y9TZg

    • Mister Grumpus says:

      I don’t get it. Can you translate it for me/us?

      • Pooch says:

        Dunno…made me LOL. Massive amounts of irony.

      • Mr.P says:

        “I see you. I see everyfreakin’oneofyou” so-called conservative opponents of the Left. “I see you and see through you, reject and renounce you, hate and spit on” your myriad shape-shifting contortions of cuck, cope, and betrayal.

    • Kunning Drueger says:

      This guy is pretty cringe. His Donut Theory is definitely interesting, but his other videos and his comment haunting makes him seem insufferable. I could be biased against him for being a snooty leftist, I admit.

      • Pooch says:

        He has a higher IQ than most channels you’ll find and his takes are definitely interesting.

        I wouldn’t call him a leftist though in the sense that we label leftists. He essentially says all civilization is inherently leftist so his “Deep Left” is a form of civilizational advancement without the degenerate lying mainstream left of today. Not exactly sure I agree with everything he says but he brings up fascinating points.

  14. Pete says:

    The Regime is calling their shot in advance: https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/1539350886702624768?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1539350886702624768%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=

    “There will be another pandemic.” Which likely means we’ll be back in masks and lockdowns by October.

    • Fireball says:

      I am going to bet that the next flu season is going to be pretty nasty specially in some parts of the world.

  15. C4ssidy says:

    Off topic for post but on topic for blog: PCgamer claimed two months ago that 25 exabyte read-only diamond wafer hard disks are to be commercialised next year, breaking us out of data storage stagnation. Would this moreorless fix the scalability of crypto, by simply having more and bigger blocks and longer chains stored on endless stacks of 25 exabyte diamond wafers?

    • Cloudswrest says:

      Sounds dubious to me.

      • Cloudswrest says:

        This got me poking around. Seems the state of the art is further along than I was aware.

        Solid all diamond ring cut from a single, man made, diamond wafer.

        https://aeworld.com/watches-jewellery/jewellery/an-all-diamond-ring-by-apple-jony-ive-heads-to-auction/

          • jim says:

            The underlying technology is that you cut off a slice of a single large non crystal diamond at angle such that there is match between the diamond lattice and the non diamond crystal lattice, and then grow nanondiamonds on the surface, whose lattices align to match each other, forming a single large diamond that is a millimetre or so thick, but very wide.

            This makes diamond transistors, which are enormously more capable, and can run far faster at far higher temperature than silicon transistors, possible.

            But last I heard, no one was actually making diamond transistors yet. They are hoping they will soon be able to, but wafers are only the first step in the process. A lot of work is being done on it. A lot of interesting results have been achieved. But so far, nothing actually useful. Just steps in the direction of producing something useful.

            • The Cominator says:

              “The underlying technology is that you cut off a slice of a single large non crystal diamond at angle such that there is match between the diamond lattice and the non diamond crystal lattice, and then grow nanondiamonds on the surface, whose lattices align to match each other, forming a single large diamond that is a millimetre or so thick, but very wide.”

              My IQ only puts me on the cusp between midwit and actual smart person (high 120s low 130s and I was younger) so forgive me if this inquiry sounds stupid but… a transitor is normally semiconductor which uses two types of silicon both with different microscopic or nanoscopic impurities (I think they also have a “neutral” silicon region which may or may not be pure silicon this is not really explained that I’ve been able to find)… how do you make a diamond (an item of pure carbon) a semiconductor. Or are these really semidiamonds?

              And as per memory storage is it just better transistors or are they trying to use the optical properties of a diamond to enhance memory storage… if trying to use a diamonds optical properties the diamond would need to be flawless and with absolutely perfect rotational symmetry correct?

    • jim says:

      He is nuts.

      In principle, diamond is capable of immensely dense data storage, but no one has any idea how to actually do it. It is like Jules Verne proposing to get to the moon by being shot out of a very powerful canon.

      • Cloudswrest says:

        Indeed. Long before I would expect to see things like “25 exabyte read-only diamond wafer hard disks” I would expect to see little things commercialized like “discrete diamond transistors” and “diamond op amps”.

    • Frank Matters says:

      Scaling issues are more due to communication and processing bandwidth than memory. At any given consensus layer every byte has to be known by every validator/block producer in order to validate the state transition. That’s why everyone is trying to shard the state, so at top you are validating the validation of the layer down, until you are at the client level and you are validating transactions themselves, and all incoming transactions are not bottlenecked by the processing power of a single node.

    • Kunning Drueger says:

      How would you build an analog blockchain thingamanigger? Like, how many Chinamen reading how many 3×5 cards containing math problems using how many pencils & notepads? A human blockchain operation might be better than UBI, guys. We’ve got the real estate, we’ve got the geography, we’ve got plenty of Chinamen. We could use Indians to checkwork the chinks’ chonk-chunks, then have lady Vietgooks glue the pages together so Mexican couriers could race them to the miners. Also, is this set up Proof of Work, Proof of Stake, or Proof that I don’t deserve to post on this blog?

  16. Kunning Drueger says:

    Re-floating this topic from down thread. These are some thoughts on the petroleum industry in particular and nuance and detailed understanding in general.

    The opacity of unfamiliar entities

    Oil industry isn’t monolithic

    Entertainment is not Hollywood

    Serious people must discard easy assumptions and accept the ubiquity of nuance.

    If anyone can provide insight from first hand experience or familiarity with the petroleum industry, don’t hesitate to smack me down and call me stupid; I always appreciate gaining perspective and resolution. My experience with the industry comes from an outsider perspective. I’ve spent time in oil country in TX and interacted with a few mid-level engineer types. I’ve also read a lot of Zeihan, and petro-chemichal is something he focuses on.

    We often only hear about the super majors and conglomerates, but the industry is actually a massive ecosystem with companies and firms of diverse size. The fracking revolution stems from silicon valley teaming up with technical/engineering schools paid for by venture capital and oil companies. Lots of different, highly specialized software, complicated and secret technologies, and commercially intersectional interests go into the extraction process. If you count all the associated parts, it’s almost a nation into itself. For instance, Halliburton specialized in the boring, unsexy infrastructure and logistics of the industry, like cafeteria workers and janitors as well as transport and maintenance, which is why they got bought by KBR and why they were basically the only company who could even try to fulfill the contracts established by USG in Iraq. The point being, it isn’t a monolithic entity. There’s probably just as much ideological diversity, competing interest, and conflicting goals as a whole State. And like a State, there are security and intelligence outfits all over the place, from site security (mall cops) to CSuite executive protection to green beret style “force multipliers” and special forces.

    I wate all these words in an effort to admonish my fellow posters: don’t fall into the trap of letting ignorance of a thing generate a low resolution, high contrast mental model. It is exceedingly rare for any social construct, like companies or cities or nonprofits or trade lobbies, to be monolithic in composition or purpose. That’s TV bullshit. Speaking of TV, it really grinds my gears when fellow conservatives reference “Hollywood” in the same way the reference the State Department or the DNC. While those two definitely have substantial unity of purpose, this is an emergent property that arises from the Cathedral apparatus chugging away for decades. In truth, Hollywood is only one facet of the hydra that is commercial entertainment. The studio system is big and influential, but if you dig down and get familiar, just like every other element of the GAE, it’s a multitude of factions, cults of personality, and self serving shekel snatchers. They may signal the same message when forced to, but it actually requires the hardcore priests to put in massive effort to keep everyone “on message.”

    I’m not trying to advocate for, rationalize away, or justify the industrialized evil that is entertainment, or governance, or anything else in our late stage empire. But I implore you to look close and expect nuance, because opportunities, exploits, and fault lines abound, and the potential for disruption is surprisingly high, and getting higher as the woke minority grows ever more rabid and reckless.

    • Anonymous Fake says:

      The fracking revolution effect has never been seen anywhere else. America is unique for being a major oil producing nation stretched across a continent that rejuvenated and in fact enhanced its oil production generations after its peak. For any other big player, when they hit peak oil it’s all over.

      I doubt technology made any difference because it would work anywhere, and hasn’t. The more likely explanation is that American boomers really were a dud generation, and later generations really are an improvement. The boomer phenomenon isn’t seen outside of America so there is no inexplicable industrial recovery waiting to be seen.

      This is more evidence that more value added industries actually are being held back by the government, mostly as a result of a lack of tariffs and lax regulations that reward stock buybacks instead of long term capital investment.

      • jim says:

        Fracking has been completely effective anywhere and everywhere the world with a high IQ population, many high IQ tech firms in the oil industry – often firms that are in multiple high tech fields unrelated to oil, and a government that is not aggressively trying to strangle fracking in its cradle.

        High technology cannot be implemented by anyone anywhere, because it requires high smarts and high cooperation between smarties. You are speaking out of priestly ignorance, contempt, and hostility for the high tech priesthood.

        Because fracking requires a lot of money, it is extremely vulnerable to government sponsored attacks from the officially unofficial state Church, which is hostile to it because they see a competing priesthood, a tech priesthood, getting rich.

        • Pooch says:

          Because fracking requires a lot of money, it is extremely vulnerable to government sponsored attacks from the officially unofficial state Church, which is hostile to it because they see a competing priesthood, a tech priesthood, getting rich.

          In my class dichotomy, tech and engineering is thoroughly Warrior class. Problem solving, building things with your hands, the physical world, strategizing, etc this is all the domain of the warrior. An engineer is Warrior mindset sans the violence. It’s no coincidence that farming has been the historical peace time activity of the warrior. It’s the same mindset.

          Priests build memes and ideas and never actually tangible in the physical world. So to me when the state Church attacks fracking this is the priest class attacking the warrior class.

          • jim says:

            Priests of the officially unofficial religion see us as competition, and their perception is not entirely inaccurate.

            Stallman’s build tools and environment (gnu), Linus’s git, and Moldbug’s Urbit, are all software instruments for a social vision. Those tech tools are the product of tech priests.

            An engineer who is just wrestling with code and algorithms, definitely akin to warrior class. But algorithms blur over into factoring the problem, which meets the issue of large scale cooperation through discussion, which is definitely a priestly endeavor. Notable tech priests are or were Richard Stallman and Linus.

            People had been farting around for a long time on the problem of creating a free open source unix. It is often said that Linus created Linux. Lots of people created Linux, notably Stallman, but what Stallman created was held back by reliance on enemy source control tools and enemy controlled kernels. What Linus created was git, an instrument of cooperation between engineers, and the system of social organization for using it, which instrument he applied to cause a lot of engineers working at cross purposes to work together to create linux.

            Linus saw that gnu needed its own kernel, and was working on it, among others, when he realized that enemy controlled source control tools were getting in the way of those trying to create an open source kernel on which to run Gnu tools. And he then created git, and everything came together.

            Unfortunately this instrument is extremely vulnerable to hostile power, and both Linus and Stalman were recently defeated as priests. It presupposes a friendly well intentioned internet. Under attack, it fails in a wide variety of ways. We need will need to build a new git on top of a new social net. I have already envisaged the model for cooperation using it, but my social net is just a radically incomplete collection of tools, and fairly complete collection of ideas. I hope to whip into shape where it runs enough for another people to help out fairly soon – which is well short of running enough to be useful to the masses. Moldbug is another tech priest, and he is way further ahead with his implementation for a social net than I am (Urbit). But his social net is very much designed to be less threatening to power, and he is attempting to cooperate with hostile forces (Ethereum), which attempt has induced an irritating flaw. He should have inhoused the money system, or bitcoin based it, or any non scam coin except ethereum.

            In the world of the internet, like the world of fracking, the problems of technology and of large scale cooperation overlap massively. And priests of the official priesthood don’t much like our solutions.

            We need an instrument of cooperation, social, algorithmic, and instantiated as computer code that not only helps friendly smart cooperative people cooperate, but enables them to cooperate in the face of cohesive enemy groups that do not want them to be able to cooperate, with whom any attempt at compromise, cooperation, and a mode of living where each group is able to go about it is own business, is unlikely to succeed. An instrument of cooperation capable of operating in a state of Information Epoch warfare.

            • Mike in Boston says:

              Moldbug is another tech priest, and he is way further ahead with his implementation for a social net than I am (Urbit).

              I doubt whether Yarvin has any more involvement with urbit. Back in early 2019 he wrote:

              After 17 years, I’ve left the Urbit project.

              I’ve resigned as CTO, board member, and voting shareholder of Tlon (Urbit’s corporate sponsor). I’ve also reassigned my personal galaxies to urbit.org (Urbit’s embryonic foundation, still in Tlon’s custody).

              My family still has a few thousand Urbit stars (in long timelock contracts), plus a nonvoting minority in Tlon. This isn’t authority, just compensation: I have zero central power over either Urbit or Tlon. Nor will I contribute code to Urbit, nor write nor speak publicly about it. I am actually done here.

              So in my mind I don’t consider Urbit an asset for our side anymore, and that made me lose interest in constantly nursemaiding an Urbit node through the neverending cycle of crashes and upgrades.

          • jim says:

            When you need a great many people cooperating to do something, it is apt to turn into a priestly and religious endeavor. The priestly nature of Stallman’s gnu and gnu autotools is obvious. Autotools attempts to address the social problem that Linus, linux, and git successfully addressed, but it was predicated on running on a hostile closed source operating system and hostile closed source source control software. Which closed source source control software bit Linus, so he wrote his own, structured around his priestly social vision, while Stallman and company allowed the social vision of the enemy source control software to be imposed upon them.

            • Pooch says:

              Communication is definitely the domain of the priest but in the context of building and abstracting a shared morality for a given society. What is the morality of the tech priest? If no shared morality, not a priesthood.

              • Adam says:

                As far as open source- “Information wants to be free”.

              • jim says:

                Stallman used to rather regularly give us lectures on morality, though as woke became increasingly vigilant, he shut up.

                • test says:

                  Not every guy with opinions is a “priest”. Stop abusing that word.

                  Tech people and engineers are neither “priests” nor “warriors”. They are bourgeois. Or “merchants” if you like that better.

                • jim says:

                  Every knowledge faction that generates consensus in order to make its memes more believable, functions as a synthetic tribe, and organizes to propagate its memes, is a priesthood.

                  Every knowledge worker who is trying create a systematic structure of people on his memes, a synthetic tribe, even if he has not got a decent faction around him yet, is a priest.

                  Linus did not create linux. He created structures, customs, and ways of doing things that enabled a very large group of people to cooperate to create linux. So, Linus is an engineer priest, as a paladin is a warrior priest.

      • Pax Imperialis says:

        There’s just so much obviously wrong in so little writing I’ve got to congratulate you for succinctness. I would certainly benefit from succinctness.

        “The fracking revolution effect has never been seen anywhere else.”

        It almost as if there is a massive political organization built on preventing oil production in the west. The Greens do quite well politically in Europe.
        https://www.cleanenergywire.org/news/fracking-still-not-option-germany-says-econ-and-climate-minister

        Many oil producing countries are also capable of fracking. They also have large traditional oil reserves so why retool to fracking?

        “America is unique for being a major oil producing nation stretched across a continent that rejuvenated and in fact enhanced its oil production generations after its peak.”

        Does Russia ring a bell?

        “For any other big player, when they hit peak oil it’s all over.”

        Potential oil and gas from fracking likely exceeds what was available from traditional oil drilling.
        https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Map-of-48-major-shale-gas-basins-in-32-countries-Source-US-EIA-106_fig3_262732737

        “I doubt technology made any difference because it would work anywhere, and hasn’t.”

        You are conflating the technology not being used with the idea that the technology does not work. That like saying “I doubt nuclear bomb technology made any difference because it would be used in all wars, and hasn’t.”

        “The more likely explanation is that American boomers really were a dud generation”

        Sure… there’s an argument to be made there

        “, and later generations really are an improvement.”

        But that is plain ridiculous. Not even the boomers decided to castrate their boys. That’s on millennials and zoomer generation.

        “The boomer phenomenon isn’t seen outside of America”

        Angela Merkel, Boris Johnson, etc look and behave just like American boomer politicians. Boomer culture got exported post WW2 via Hollywood and US occupation. Boomer phenomenon is global. Cola is global.

        “there is no inexplicable industrial recovery waiting to be seen.”

        True not because there aren’t any boomers. True because of the boomers and the woke children they raised who are against industrial recovery.

        “This is more evidence that more value added industries actually are being held back by the government”

        Governments explicitly say they are holding back industries

        “mostly as a result of a lack of tariffs and lax regulations that reward stock buybacks instead of long term capital investment.”

        Forget tariffs if you can’t even do business in the first place. It’s the government regulations that prevent many business from operating in the US in the first place. The endless shakedowns. The endless environmental impact surveys. The never ending undermining of companies via HR and unions backed by government. The high corporate tax rates. Does any of that look like lax regulation?

        Why should companies invest for the long term if they don’t even know if the government will permit them to exist 10 years from now? Might as well get everything of value you can in the short run.

      • Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

        >Government is holding business back-

        Oh?

        >-because they’re not Micromanaging it enough!

        Lol, there it is.

    • Pax Imperialis says:

      Recognizing and studying nuance is important for understanding how the world works. There is academic and business value in that. The political value is fuzzy for several reasons.

      Good governance requires decision capable individuals calling the shots in an orderly and timely manor. Getting caught up in nuance slows the OODA loop. That can be a good thing, we want our justice system to fairly consider nuances and not get caught up in manias and public frenzies. We also don’t want our justice system considering nuances to such an extent that it takes decades to come to a ruling. The rejection of nuance we see today is largely in reaction to too much nuance being considered. A good example of this is the transsexual debate where all of society is being torn up over a population that in reality is very small such that most transsexuals are not actually genetically transsexuals, but are confused individuals caught up in the social frenzy.

      The masses are not capable of nuance. Governance must take that into consideration. The world might be full of gray zones and indeterminate realities, average human psychology is largely not. The percentage of the population that is capable of swimming between black and white, 1 and 0, is already small. The percentage of those comfortable with swimming in the gray zone is even smaller.

      Conservatives will either destroy Hollywood and salt the ground, or they will not. There is no in-between for political actions of that magnitude. Trying to surgically cut out the malignant parts of Hollywood would take too much time, would likely kill Hollywood anyways, and would give time for Hollywood to politically resists the entire process which would likely mean an end to the surgery. See what happened when USG tried to surgically remove the communists from Hollywood. It failed.

      There is a way of “retaining” Hollywood without destroying it via a complete hostile take over. All the studio directors would have to be removed and replaced with conservatives. All new hires from the cameraman to the writers have to be conservatives. But that basically kills Hollywood anyways, but gives an illusion that it still exists and thus a sense of legitimacy. It’s also far more costly than simply razing Hollywood to the ground and starting over. Both methods have merit.

      Serious people must discard easy assumptions and accept the ubiquity of nuance, but they must also promote easy assumptions and deny the ubiquity of nuance when it comes to politics.

      • Kunning Drueger says:

        I reeeally wish Jimscord (Jim+discord) was a thing, because I want to debate/discuss with you over VC.

        Don’t hear what I’m not saying. I pray GNON makes me the knife that guts Hollywood. Further, nuance is not an excuse for inaction. You and I are in a trench, waves of Brits and Frogs are charging us. Pooch is banging away on the air cooled while Com feeds him belts. Wulfgar is doing something with a sword while St. John is poking holes in Progressive molds with a rifle like lightning lifted from storms of Old. You pause to work the bolt and notice me, staring fixedly over my sights of iron, finger pad on trigger, pressing not pulling, but not firing.

        “What the fuck, faggot.” You say.

        “Shhh.” i whisper “I’m aiming for his freckle.”

        Seeking nuance when action is obvious is an eternally spinning wheel in a muddy rut of its own making. All this to say: Yes.

        You’re right, no need for nuance when you know the enemy. But assuming that a thing is just a Thing, no more, no less, when the thing is Things, things upon things, is a mistake. It makes allies look like enemies. It makes opportunities seem like obstacles.

        “Stop shitting via keyboard!” cries Oliver Cromwell (I miss you dude; you were right, I’m a fraud)

        Ok, the point. If ever we were going to find allies, natural allies, men of strength and skill and Chadness, guys with wives and lives and kids, men who’ll take King’s coin, it’s in Petrochemical. It’s a world of mobile stationary bandits. Woke can’t infiltrate oil fields (though it tries, Lord, it tries), and never once was nigger found on barren lands where derricks pound. I used to think that Restoration slept sound in barracks and the parade ground. I was wrong, no offense and I’m sorry, but the uniform has turned to Alpha’s folly.

        Look, why is capitalism always right? Why does the eternal unicorn, that indomitable incarnation of applied application, always return?

        SELF

        INTEREST

        Selfishness made selfless with no tricks or deceit. Make greed the gasoline of the IC engine in our coup. Honestly, I’m pretty sure climatehoax was built precisely because Extraction was the only beast the Cathedral can’t slay. The path to Restoration lies in Extraction. I know the destination, and I think this is the way. But enough tipsy typing.

        What do you say?

        • Wulfgar Thundercock III says:

          What exactly would I be doing with a sword? I am curious what your mental model of me looks like. Though if I ever doubt myself, I will remind myself to be the Wulfgar from your posts.

          • Kunning Drueger says:

            I often picture you as that Limey on DDay that went ashore with a Claymore. It just seems like a Wulfgar kind of thing to do. In this particular fever dream, you were on the lip of the trench, like a damnfool, screaming something about the inferior spirit of Entente bullets.

        • Pax Imperialis says:

          A Jimscord would be extremely interesting… and dangerous.

          Regular Discord is a goldmine. If you know what to look for and how to recognize certain speech patterns/linguistic cues, you can fairly regularly find leftists with likely proximity to the Cathedral.

          Considering how Discord records everything, deletes nothing, likely sends that data to Chinese intelligence via the TenCent financing, is it any wonder why Chinese espionage in America is so much more successful than American attempts in China? All that Discord shit is being data mined. Trump had the wrong primary target with TikTok.

          Tangent aside…

          Restoration is a multistage process. The military will have a role in it. Not an immediately direct role. The military is a behemoth that punches hard but not without orders that are seen as legitimate.

          A populist revolt, as described by Yarvin in what Trump should have done, used for regime change isn’t going to be full of uniformed men in the streets. What we will likely see is more aligned the petroleum man you speak of. Truckers are fairly similar. Veterans open up indirect military participation and give organization to the mob. All of that sort of happened organically on Jan 6 and then went nowhere because Trump was only dipping toes into the Rubicon.

          Those are some of the types of people that would be used to get the ball rolling, but then what? Is the king going to deputize every single Trucker and Petroleum man out there? Are they going to be the ones to stack up on doors to kick them in? Sort of need trucking and oil to keep things running.

          The allies you are looking for are the ones that create the sense that the King is legitimate and is thus the King is capable of giving the military orders that are also seen as legitimate.

          Restoration pose at least the following issues:

          1) How to enact regime change with a sense of legitimacy (The more the better)
          That is what you appear to be focused on. Also much of what Yarvin writes on. Failure at this looks like a Beer Hall Putsch
          2) How to establish order in the streets (and wider society) right after regime change
          This is a question of martial force. Something I’m most curious about… because if it’s successful it will be the most gratifying/fun part of a restoration… or if it fails a lot of Officers are likely going to get the have the Katyn experience. I’m not too keen on decomposing in the woods. Provided there are no mass purges failure at this point looks like that Kapp Putsch
          3)Cleaning house in the wider government
          Also a question of martial force (because many will not willing enter retirement on good terms even with a good retirement package). Failure at this would look like Trump’s first term or Julius Caesars meeting Brutus in the Senate. Not a fun time for either. Quite pointed actually.
          4)Building the new institutions
          Failing at this point and you’re… ahem… literally Sulla

          1 and 2 have to be done quickly in succession. The faster the better otherwise legitimacy gets questioned. Smash small problem in the bud with overwhelming force (National Guard/USMC) before they grow into larger problems. Remarkable how easily riots dissipate when shooting the rioters is permitted. If you can’t quickly transition from 1 to 2, you got problems… see Kapp Putsch

          3 can take a little more time but is still time sensitive. A more polite form of martial force (Police/Marshals/etc) is best.

          4 is where you’ll want nuance, take time, and to bring in academics like Hoppe and such for the reconstruction.

          But going back to the petroleum men you bring up. You are describing the American Kulak. Construction workers, car and steel factory workers, miners, etc. Relatively well paid blue collard physical labor workers… but low status even if they form the heart and soul of the nation. All practically extraction jobs. Essential for get from 0 to 1. They ideally go home afterward 1.

  17. A2 says:

    Our Star Prophet Elon Musk (praised be) divests the LGBT department of Tesla.

    https://electrek.co/2022/06/20/tesla-lay-off-head-lgbtq-diversity-elon-musk-woke-mind-virus/

    Casualties among the perverts include one “senior software engineer in charge of naming conventions in Tesla’s vehicle UI team”. Rocky times ahead for Tesla, one supposes.

    • Mister Grumpus says:

      I can’t even tell if it was a real SpaceX “department”, or just volunteers trying to meme their commissarhood into existence.

    • jim says:

      “Senior Engineer in charge of naming conventions” is means “not an engineer, and probably incapable of doing engineering, but assigned an engineering job title for political reasons”

  18. Mike Thalassitis says:

    Looks like I’ve finally caught corona. I remember there were comments on here talking about dosages of Ivermectin as well as some other things like Vit D. I can’t seem to find it right now, so can anyone please link me or give me a quick rundown?

    I have 12mg of Ivermectin, and could probably order more to arrive in 2 days. If that’s not enough, I’m wondering the best way to split it amongst myself, wife, and kids (all under 5 years old). Wife is breastfeeding, can she take Ivermectin or not?

    • Albert says:

      Simple instruction for Ivermectin:

      https://www.barnhardt.biz/ivermectin/

      • jim says:

        He says twice a week, but I, looking up different sources, took one slightly higher dose, once. Worked immediately for me.

        I also read that its effectiveness is substantially reduced after you have been sick for four or five days, and the effect on blocking viral entry lasts a lot longer than four or five days. After a week or so, your immune system is already mopping up the offspring of viruses that attempt to replicate, but they are still safe in the nucleus of your cells causing problems. It blocks entry, after a few days, the immune system takes care of exit. But your best solution is not letting them into your cells.

    • jim says:

      I may be a golden pure blood. Following a social function after which a lot of those who attended tested positive for Covid, I got weepy eyes, a running and partially blocked nose, mild sneezing, and a slight sore throat. I immediately took a single dose of horse paste containing 20mg Ivermectin. In two hours my symptoms were largely gone, and when I woke up in the morning, completely gone. (You have to take it immediately, so don’t wait for testing. It will have little or no effect if taken three or four days after the onset of symptoms, because the virus will have already entered the nuclei of large numbers of your cells and large amounts of spike protein will have already entered your circulation. Don’t take a second dose until at least a couple of weeks have passed. A single dose has effect that lasts for quite a while.)

      I took no other medications, other than that I routinely take large amounts of vitamin D, vitamin K, and a balanced set of divalent salts including zinc, which may well have protective effect. Given the association between Covid and demon worship, the power of Christ may well also have protective effect. Though, of course, one of the mechanisms through which the power of Christ acts is that the power of Christ protects one from mind control, which results in one having horse paste in one’s fridge.

      > Wife is breastfeeding, can she take Ivermectin or not?

      Ivermectin is not known to be unsafe for infants, but I researched its mechanism extensively when it became apparent that it was a highly effective mechanism against the awesome might of the awesome and mighty Covid Demon.

      The interesting thing is not why it is so effective against a very wide range of hostile parasites that have very little in common, but why it does not kill higher animals. It disables several cellular pathways that sound as if they should be extremely important, thus killing a strangely wide range of hostile higher organisms, and stopping viruses that make use of these pathways dead in their tracks. But why does it not harm us, or indeed most higher animals? Maybe higher organisms have other pathways that accomplish the same result by other means.

      It has been around for a very long time, and is not known to be unsafe for infants, so it is probably OK.

      • Drien says:

        What is the story on HCQ? Is that still considered good?

        • jim says:

          HCQ good, but the evidence is that ivermectin has similar results and is more effective.

          They have different mechanisms of action, so the two of them together are likely even more effective, but there is not much evidence on this.

          Ivermectin does what it does so extraordinarily effectively as to render HCQ irrelevant, and neither of them is very effective unless taken as soon as possible. A week or so after infection, both of them are useless. Immediately after infection, ivermectin is immediately and totally effective, HCQ is merely very helpful.

      • Red says:

        My brother in law felt better the next day after taking Ivermectin on his 3ed day of being sick. I personally couldn’t kick the WuFlu until I doubled up the recommended dose on day 3 after having taken the lower recommended does + zinc on the first 2 days. I felt much better just hours after the double dose and I stopped taking it. More is probably better. Though I wasn’t 100% sure I had covid the first day I felt sick.

        My recovery was bit longer because I didn’t nuke the WuFlu right away. I was seeing racing heart rates for a couple of weeks so I stopped working out until that went away. A gym buddy mine caught it and had brain fog and lightheadedness for a couple of weeks after. He also stopped training until he felt more normal.

    • Karl says:

      Here is an overview of treatments

      https://swprs.org/on-the-treatment-of-covid-19/

    • MarkMark says:

      My whole family and I also just got the China Flu last week. Unfortunately we were on a roadtrip and didn’t have Ivermectin on hand and now I assume it’s too late to take even if we could find it. We’ve moved from the fever stage to the fatigue/winded when walking around the house stage. To be frank this is getting pretty disturbing. Any advice on extricating this demon very welcome!

      • Varna says:

        Sanatorium lifestyle for as much as possible + prayer + liquids and porridge + no forcing self to be physically active too soon + taking lots of mini-breaks + total brain and eye rest, meaning all screens. Simple positive stuff from a couple of book pages and that’s it. Lots and lots of sleep.

        This is advice for all mega-flu events not just the kung flu. Swine flu 6-7 years for example ago hit some people pretty bad, some badder than covid.

        Often, a crisis is an opportunity. Getting hit by a bug means also getting rekt and then building self back. If you manage the building back of self smartly, the new built back self may actually be a bit better than the pre-rekt one.

      • jim says:

        Fatigued and winded indicates massive blood coagulation. You need the D dimer test, and you need your blood examined under a microscope.

        Covid and vaccination produces huge numbers of tiny blood clots, which can slowly aggregate into massive blood very low density blood clots, that can kill you when exercising. The tiny blood clots, of course cannot be detected by MRI, and the massive blood clots, being generally low density, are very hard to spot on MRI. Also, they are not that common, though they are probably the primary cause of the supposedly mysterious outbreak of sudden adult death syndrome.

        If D Dimer test shows alarming levels of blood clotting, doctors are likely to try to push you into getting MRI. Don’t. This indicates the doctor is hostile, since the primary purpose is denial. MRI shows negative, therefore, the medical profession proclaims, the other tests were false positives. Obviously if a microscope shows large numbers of tiny clots, you are in big trouble, and if the doctor wants an MRI, it is because acknowledging your trouble is likely to get him in trouble.

        A doctor can lose his license, because noticing blood clotting is “unnecessarily creating patient anxiety”, therefore is medical malpractice. They are really cracking down very hard on noticing or acknowledging this problem.

        The MRI is just to deny something the state and medical profession wants very hard to deny.

        It seems plausible that anti coagulants can cure it, but there is extreme reluctance by the medical establishment to investigate, because the investigation would implicate them in enormous crimes.

        Aspirin is moderately safe anti coagulant. Take regular doses of aspirin at the maximum safe level for prolonged use. Vitamin K antagonist anti coagulents are more potent, but only available on prescription because potentially quite dangerous.

        You will not get any immediate relief from aspirin, because it will take a while for your red blood cells to regenerate, and for the microscopic clots to be cleaned up out of your circulation.

        • jim says:

          Aspirin will not have any immediate effect on your fatigue, but in theory it should facilitate recover over time as your red blood cells regenerate. A lot of females have low iron, which slows red blood cell regeneration, but this problem is rare in males, who usually suffer from excess iron.

          • Wulfgar Thundercock III says:

            Nicotine and alcohol help with recovery, as well, correct? I seem to remember those being touted as helpful in degrading the spike protein, which stays after the virus proper is gone. Some moderate alcohol intake and either smoking cigars or nicotine pouches might help. Unfortunately I cannot make personal recommendations because when I supposedly got covid I was back in action in just a few days without doing anything but eating well and sleeping.

            • Kunning Drueger says:

              My family can’t figure out if we’ve gotten the coof or not during this whole fiasco. We’re all purebloods (the ones I own) but the greater cluster is vaxx’d, and they’ve all been kissed by the demon at least twice.

              • Guy says:

                My family finally got it a few weeks ago, only know because my son was running a fever and got him tested for everything. I actually got sick, which hasn’t happened in many years. Got very feverish, lasted a day and a half, felt crappy the rest of the week.

                I was shocked by how sick I got for that day and a half, and can imagine the weak and old dying from it. But all in all it wasn’t worse than the fIus I remember getting as a young kid.

            • The Cominator says:

              Nicotine blocks the ACE2 receptor which at least limits vax damage from the spike protein…

              I do not know how alcohol is supposed to help.

        • Ctsaxton says:

          Aspirin disables platelets (which have a ~7 day lifespan and ~1day half-life iirc), mildly preventing clots. Nattokinase is a fibrolytic that acts on multiple pathways and strongly dissolves clots. Much better safety profile (otc, no common side effects) than e.g. warfarin.

          Anecdotally, I used to have ‘clot-like’ symptoms, especially after traveling and especially after eating sugar/gluten. Strange traveling pains in limbs, often moving to chest/head/stomach. Aspirin helped a little, maybe. 100mg Nattokinase would completely resolve symptoms. After 6 months of regularly taking nattokinase, symptoms faded, only coming back occasionally after a long flight.

          I recommend it to covid patients in particular. Fibrolytic effect is said to peak ~12 hours after ingestion.

    • Tech Priest says:

      Vitamin D does rather better in observational studies than in RCTs. One possible reason for this is that sunlight may be strongly beneficial through some mechanism other than making vitamin D, but the vitamin D is showing benefit in the observational studies as a proxy for sunlight exposure. In which case getting some sun exposure would be a good idea.

  19. Red says:

    Watergate was a CIA op against Nixon:

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2022/06/20/watergate_at_50_revelations_from_newly_declassified_evidence_147766.html

    I think most people here knew that here since the story never passed the sniff test but it’s still good to see it documented.

    • The Cominator says:

      Did anyone ever doubt this with the Washington Compost being so heavily involved?

  20. Neurotoxin says:

    Via Vox Day: Russia claims it has wiped out Ukraine’s General Staff.

    Day links to this Russian-langauge site https://ria.ru/20220619/kalibr-1796549325.html Here’s the passage he provides in translation:

    RIA Novosti. Russian Kalibr missiles struck a command post of Ukrainian troops near the village of Shirokaya Dacha in Dnipropetrovsk Region, killing dozens of generals and officers, Defense Ministry spokesman Lieutenant General Igor Konashenkov said. A working meeting of the command staff of the operational-strategic grouping of troops “Alexandria” was held there at the time, he explained.

    “As a result of the strike more than 50 generals and officers of the AFU, including the General Staff, the command of the grouping of troops “Kakhovka”, airborne assault troops and formations operating in the Nikolaevsk and Zaporozhye directions were destroyed,” the general said.

    • Neurotoxin says:

      Hmm, there’s some contesting from Ukraine about just what was hit and who was killed.

      Meanwhile, also via Vox Day: UK military folks making noises about war with Russia. Holy freakin shit the entire western world is ruled by insane people. I mean we’ve all known this for years, but every now and then it hits you again:

      Britain’s armed forces must be ready and willing to fight Russia in Europe, a former head of UK Special Forces warned today. [Sweet jumping Jesus.] General Sir Adrian Bradshaw, former director of Special Forces, said the UK must help Nato allies prevent giving Vladimir Putin ‘an opening’ to widen the war in Ukraine into a battle against the West.

      The former senior officer’s intervention follows an extraordinary announcement by the new head of the British Army.

      General Sir Patrick Sanders, who assumed overall command last week, warned soldiers at the weekend ‘we are the generation that must prepare the Army to fight in Europe once again’ as Russia’s invasion of Ukraine rocks global stability.

      In one of Fraser’s Flashman books – talk about politically incorrect reading, BTW – Flashman is involved in the planning of the Crimean War. Here’s Flashman’s characterization of the days after England’s declaration of war:

      “Well, here we are, the French and ourselves, at war with Russia… What shall we do, then? Better attack Russia, hey? Hm, yes. (Pause.) Big place, ain’t it?”

      • jim says:

        > Hmm, there’s some contesting from Ukraine about just what was hit and who was killed.

        We have Russian propaganda and we have Ukrainian propaganda.

        But, when the Russians are on target, the Ukrainians need to conceal target confirmation, so will necessarily always deny. We know the Ukrainians would, for military reasons, not just propaganda reasons, deny.

        Both sides are finally starting to figure out Information Epoch warfare. War is a stern teacher, but a good one.

        My examination of the propaganda of both sides suggests that Russian propaganda consists of talking up small victories, and ignoring and rationalizing away defeats and failures without explicitly denying them, while Ukrainian propaganda contains a whole lot of flat out Baghdad Bob style blatant lying.

        The Russians will attack, fail, fall back in good order, and report on their great successes in keeping good order in the face of Ukrainian advance and making the advancing enemy pay a heavy price when the enemy got careless. The Ukrainians will just flat out lie barefaced.

        • Kunning Druegger says:

          How does Russia handle big victories? It may be wise to just pretend everything is business as usual, even if they did pull off a stunning decapitation. My thinking is such that if you stay quiet about your large accomplishments, the people around you, friend and foe, build the foundation for legends with no prompting.

          • jim says:

            Well, they really have not had any big victories. Just quite a lot of small victories, which are slowly adding up. Quite slowly.

            They concentrate their attrition in one spot, and the Ukes hold, but it costs the Ukes. Then they concentrate, unpredictably, in another spot, which forces the Ukes to move reluctant and exhausted troops around. And sometimes the troops being sent to the new spot decline to go there, and sometimes, not very often, the Uke line falls apart on the new spot, and the Russians grab a decent fifty square kilometres of so of not very valuable territory full of land mines and booby traps.

            Most of the city of Severodonetsk, capital of the Luhansk district, was abandoned without a fight. Most of the troops that were supposed to defend it decided it was time to take a swim across the river, having received orders that inflicted a terrible cost one time too often. The loyalist troops rounded up a bunch of civilians as hostages against the Russians, and are currently holed up in the massive reinforced concrete chemical plant, which is hard to shell to bits, and the Russians are reluctant to shell it to bits because of the hostages, and they are also reluctant to try to press an advance with hostile troops behind them that might take advantage of difficulties during the advance to stage a breakout. So they are just waiting for the troops in the factory to get hungry, which will take a while.

            As victories go, well it is a significant victory. Except they still have a heavily armed nest of enemy troops with civilian hostages inside the city.

            • A2 says:

              That last part appears to be medieval siege warfare. It even seems unlikely the besieged will sally out or otherwise try to break the siege. So bottle up the fortress, wait them out and move on with the rest in the meantime.

      • Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

        Even if they are overestimating the extent of the damage inflicted, the very existence of such propaganda likewise says that they are placing an emphasis on finding and exploding hostile agents responsible for organizing enemy groups in the first place.

        Good.

      • Neurotoxin says:

        Oh no! You might think that Putin’s invading Ukraine was the worst thing ever and makes him the ultimate nazifascistnazi, but it gets even worse!

        Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton says Russian President Vladimir Putin “was very sexist” toward her during meetings.

        – recent Business Insider headline.

        God, these people.

    • The Cominator says:

      Good news.

    • dumbassery says:

      Who, specifically, is on the UA general staff? [*tedious repetition of variants of the same question deleted*]
      These are all specific questions with specific and verifiable answers.[*deluded accounts of propaganda tactics deleted*]

      • jim says:

        The Ukrainians have sufficient, or have suddenly acquired sufficient, competence in Information Epoch warfare to make sure that no one can find the specific answers you demand. If they were verifiable, a whole lot of the Ukrainian general staff would be dead, and if the Russians know the answers, they are unlikely to reveal their knowledge, because it would instantly become useless the moment Ukrainians knew that they knew.

        The questions to which you demand answers to are likely to be answered by explosions in the theater of war.

    • Varna says:

      Footage from Melitopol, June 21st. Dude driving around, explaining some changes.
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krKprwyl6aU
      New online providers, new phone providers, new passports, new books in the central city library, local geezers can apply for a Russian pension starting July 1st.

      Footage from Mariupol, June 15th. City got it bad but the worst is now hopefully behind it.
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UV5_pK8BjY8

      Kherson, from 1.5 months ago, freshly after its taking
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_2bxCIqa0c
      Voiceover (pro-Ukr) mentions regular protests by city folks, broken up by Russian national guardsmen. Sad, but better than guerilla warfare by any measure.

      Kherson, June 21st
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=682n1RJf_4A
      Some lady makes vids about her city, defiantly refusing to admit a war is happening. Musing about random courtyards, cherry trees etc.

      Ukrainian TV, June 17th. About the cities and towns just on the verge of possibly being taken by the Russians.
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Vo-a_XM4nI

      Also Slavyansk, June 20th.
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fik0_466cnM

      In these towns, villages, and cities near the front, life is crappy. Problems with water, electricity, number of functioning ATM’s dwindling. The local mayors and governors report on what they manage to fix, what they can’t.

      When you listen to the Ukrainian TV, you see and hear obvious Russians speaking obvious Russian. These places were obvious Russia for Napoleon, for Hitler, for the Cold War adversaries back in the day. You ask any cold warrior in 1984 is Kiev Russian they’ll say of course and we should nuke it.

      How is all of this possible? Mindboggling.

      • Pooch says:

        How is all of this possible? Mindboggling.

        Don’t underestimate the priestly classes’ ability to meme things into existence. Have been doing it for time immemorial.

  21. Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

    https://i.warosu.org/data/biz/img/0498/35/1655711016180.png

    Looks like the act of powers that be that are desperate to keep their totem and the game of musical chairs it underlies propped up, but aren’t smart enough to really understand finance anymore. Cargo-cult economics.

    • Mr.P says:

      $USD has been the recipient of The Great Liquidation in paper assets globally, that’s all. It’s toying now with long-term resistance, having “thrown over” resistance last week. Where $USD goes from here, who knows, probably up a little more then down hard now that Bloomberg is finally noticing and advertising what’s been obvious — $USD is rallying — for more than a year.

      • jim says:

        People the world over are liquidating because insecurity. Seeing storms on the horizon, they want to be able to nimbly shift their assets out of the way of the storm (one of those storms causing me to lose a great deal of money). And the beneficiary is the most liquid asset of them all, the US dollar.

        It abruptly became less liquid as a result of sanctions, and other assets are becoming more liquid as a result of people fleeing regulatory burden, but it still the most liquid asset in the world, and is likely to remain so for quite a while, even when its value radically and rapidly declines.

        El Salvador is encountering the problems I foresaw with the lightning network – which problems are fixable due to the Bitcoin taproot upgrade, but when last I checked had not yet been fixed. It has to run on scriptless scripts implementing anonymous multi-Hop Locks, and it has to run a continual encrypted cloud backup, secured by your master password on your non cloud device.

        And when last I looked, does neither of those essential and necessary things, without which Bitcoin is not yet in the necessary position to replace the US dollar. I still keep only insignificant amounts of money in the lightning network, and while I still recommend Bitcoin rather than Monaro as one of your major assets, am likely to soon move to Monaro – but Monaro is even less capable of replacing the US dollar than bitcoin.

      • jim says:

        Bloomberg is a reliable source of bad financial advice. If they finally tell us it is rallying, the rally has likely reached the top.

      • Aidan says:

        USD is rallying? Looks like it is cratering against everything that experiences stable demand. What is getting more expensive? People are buying the same amount of gas, milk, and cars as they always have. If USD looks like it is rallying against esoteric financial instruments, it is just voodoo to disguise the immanent collapse of the dollar.

        • jim says:

          The US dollar is doing fine against other financial assets – which is to say, fine against my financial assets. But I think my financial assets are more likely to withstand the coming bad weather.

          It is time for an assert preservation strategy, which for most people, means liquidate into US$. But, with the US$ cratering against everything that has real immediate value, such as milk and gas, I think that strategy normality bias. Which always gets you burned. At some point they are going to decide to get out of US$, and will find that any attempt to do so makes them hoarders, blackmarketeers, tax evaders, terrorists, and child pornographers.

          • Karl says:

            At some point they are going to decide to get out of US$, and will find that any attempt to do so makes them hoarders, blackmarketeers, tax evaders, terrorists, and child pornographers.

            Sure, but only those inside the USA. Most US $ are held outside of the USA.

            Problem for those outside of the USA who want to get out of US $ is that they’ll need someone who wants to get into US$. Right now US $ is usefull for paying international invoices for goods produced outside of USA. That won’t last much longer. Then people will seriously want to get out of US$ and there won’t be much demand for US$ when it is only usefull for paying goods produced inside the USA.

            • Pooch says:

              This presupposes those countries who want to exit the US Dollar can withstand US soft power and US hard power.

              Russia was able to do it, but Russia has nukes.

              • Varna says:

                India and Pakistan do too. I believe both even make their own cruise missles and sheit.

                Although as this summer has shown so explicitly, we can never be too sure which parts come from where.

      • Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

        The impression im getting is that big time bagholders in and around the circles of power are not buying USG futures because they expect the future of USD to be bright, but because the inner party network is talking them into it (or ‘talking’ them into it), in an attempt to make it look like things are still good and normal. ‘Do it for democracy.’

        • jim says:

          I think it may well be less conspiratorial than that. People see bad weather coming, and normality bias persuades them that the US dollar is a safe haven, and if it turns out it is not, it will be easy and not too expensive to switch into something else. Always worked before.

        • Karl says:

          Private housholds rarely buy USG futures. That stuff is bought by people managing other people’s money, assests of a company and the like. Anyone who manages assests he does not own first and foremost wants to be sure that he can’t be blamed for what he has done. Creating losses isn’t much of a problem if almost everybody else is doing the same.

  22. Red says:

    With the J6 clown show trails failing(they stopped the hearings because it actually reduced support for the narrative) they’re probably going to make a second go at a Reichstag Fire false flag. Since the Feds still running the fake and gay “patriots front” all over the place, I’d wager they’ll use them for a mass casualty terrorist attack before the midterms. People are more likely to believe an established terrorist group rather than a brand new one no has heard of, hence why they’ve continued the operations despite everyone on the right calling them glowniggers and PF having been kicked out of any rightwing rally they try to march into.

  23. Kunning Drueger says:

    I think at this point it is pretty well established that I have a lot of ideas about how we as a digital synthetic tribe should be doing concrete and shareable things, whether it’s a book or some other kind of project. I think it’s also pretty clear that, while there is General positivity to the ideas I put forward, it never goes much further than a comment and some daughter posts. For my own well-being, that is all I really need: I would hate myself if I didn’t at least share the idea, but if I share it and it goes nowhere, it’s not really on my head. It is definitely the case that if I actually want these projects to happen, I have to just start them, then see them through with whatever help I get. But I have enough going on IRL, too much even, that it’s not something weighing heavily on my mind.

    All that being said, I still think we have a ton of brain power and literary capacity just sort of hanging out here, and it would be a shame if no crystallization or synthesis came of it. This is not at all to say that there is no value in the structure of discourse that is already occurring. Indeed, Jim making posts and the rest of us discussing it is fascinating, uplifting, and informative. That’s why he has the oldest active blog on the internet. But some part of me weeps for the young man 20 years hence who’s going to have to pile through this unbelievably massive source of material just to find a single through line.

    Here’s a link of Auron MacIntyre having a discussion with Carl Benjamin, the internet personality formerly known as Sargon of Akkad:

    https://youtu.be/oxj2UHwEH0k (01:40:38)

    In and of itself, it’s quite interesting to see how this guy has changed over time. There’s a lot packed into this discussion, but I would like to focus on his response to MacIntyre when MacIntyre invites him to critique or comment on NRx as a group (01:19:25). Benjamin implores NRx to “get off the internet.” In the act of qualifying this admonition, Benjamin blithely States that monarchy will not just magically take over after liberalism goes away, and he asserts that whatever the post liberal order is, it will most likely be a synthesis of liberalism and whatever topples it.

    Here’s the assignment: right at least two paragraphs in response to sargon’s assertion; state whether you agree with it or not, explain why you have taken this position, then summarize what the synthesis will be, or what the replacement that has no liberal synthesis will be.

    The deadline for submission is the next assignment, so conceivably you have forever, but most likely a week or two. To make my life marginally easier, please only respond to this comment with your submission and post any responses to the idea, positive or negative, in a separate or different comment. Or don’t, I have literally zero enforcement capability in this situation

    • Kunning Drueger says:

      I agree with Benjamin’s assertion because I think it is couched within historical precedent. Barring and invasion and occupation by an outside force that has no liberal tendencies or vestigial forms, whatever governance structure that arises to replace the liberal order will be a patchwork of various elements and factions from within said order. It is highly unlikely that there will be time or space for the New Order to drive every element of their governance structure X nihilo, so by necessity, they will be forced to use certain liberal forms.

      The synthesis that replaces the liberal order will be contingent upon the ideology or structure that comes to inhabit the antithetical position in a hegelian framework. There are multiple ideologies and frameworks that can and do act as an antithesis the liberal thesis. Indeed, this diversity of sentiment is a part of how the liberal order maintains its position despite its overwhelming incompetence and sclerosis. Just as the synthesis that will replace the liberal thesis will be a hybrid that contains one or more antitheses, so too will be antithesis itself be in amalgam of the extent factions.

      No single representative of the antithetical class has everything needed to take on, defeat, and replace the liberal order. We monarchists have the motive, but lack the means. Every antithetical faction is lacking in opportunity in the current year, but the Dynamics of the Holiness spiral means that the rare opportunities are about to become a lot less rare. Thus, whichever faction can find natural allies that hold the missing pieces will be prominent in the successor regime.

      The most significant barrier facing each of the different factions of the antithesis is the hesitance or inability to compromise with any or all of their fellow antithetes. defection that can square this circle the most elegantly in the least amount of time will be the natural leader of the hybrid antithesis.

    • alf says:

      But some part of me weeps for the young man 20 years hence who’s going to have to pile through this unbelievably massive source of material

      I am making good progress on my answer to that problem.

    • kawaii_kike says:

      I suppose I agree with Sargon, but I’m hesitant because I’m not sure where liberalism ends and post liberal begins. I think its most likely that one of the demon factions of progressivism conquers the others but it’s difficult to imagine a post liberal order that’s not insane but still to the left of NRx. I could see the head of the FBI or some other glownigger seizing power under the premise of saving democracy but would that be toppling liberalism or merely a continuation of the leftist onslaught?

      The only prospects of a new order without liberal synthesis that I can see would be Warlord factions similar to China’s warlord era or NRx; I don’t see how anything else could topple liberalism and come out without its influence.

    • Vlad says:

      Monarchy never coming back so many reasons.
      Whites have stiff knees it’s no accident we are the people who invent democracy/ republicanism.

      [*Cathedral payload deleted. Arguments that argue for your payload will be allowed through. Arguments that presuppose your payload while pretending to argue some irrelevant issue will be deleted.*]

      • jim says:

        Yes, whites have repeatedly invented democracy, and are the only race that has seriously and effectively implemented it.

        And repeatedly had disastrous moral and social decline leading them to repeatedly return to Kings and aristocracy.

        We have been on this road many a time before.

        Republics are always short lived, and their ending always terrible. The wheel of history turns, and it is now turning again, with the same causes as many times before leading to the same effects as many times before. We have been around this merry go round many times before.

        The founding fathers analyzed past attempts, and thought they had a fix, but their fix proved to have the usual fatal flaw.

        If you want to argue that it is different this time, I will allow that argument through and respond to it. Buy, being a shill, you would have to get approval from your boss, and the boss would have to get approval from Human Resources, who would probably feels that noticing white history is racially discriminatory, and presupposes the obviously heretical doctrine that we can learn from dead white males.

      • jim says:

        I allowed the leading fragment of your post through, because you led with a real argument, one to which your audience is likely to be sympathetic, but then, while continuing to supposedly argue for your purported thesis, you then proceeded to presuppose, as shared consensus, shared by everyone, a whole lot supposed reality, that we certainly do not share, and large part an official reality that scarcely anyone believes any more, that not only do we not believe, but normies do not believe either.

        Except for the very first sentence, all your arguments that Kings are unlikely are not arguments that Kings are unlikely, but merely wagons to carry the actual payload, which is fake consensus, a consensus that even normies are starting to disbelieve.

        • Vlad says:

          [*Formulaic script seen every second time a shill is called a shill*]

          • jim says:

            Try making an actual argument. Or at least get a fresh script.

            • Vlad says:

              I did you didn’t you simply deleted it. Try this.
              Explain how you’re going to convince white conservative men that they should bend a knee to some guys calling themselves nrx because [*deleted because because a hostile misrepresentation of our position.]

              Then explain how you’re going to convince serious Christian’s [*deleted, because a hostile misrepresentation of serious Christians*]

              [*pile of stuff along the same lines deleted attacking Christianity, white people, us, and anyone who is not a typical dot Indian H1B*]

              • jim says:

                Illegitimate methods of argument not allowed on this blog.

                You can argue your opponent’s position implies things that are objectional, untrue, offensive, and absurd, or you can argue your opponent’s position presupposes things that are untrue and absurd, but you are not allowed to strawman their position. Still less are you allowed to strawman them merely for the purpose of spraying random insults in all directions.

    • Anon says:

      Disagree with Sargon frame
      He assume a frame of linear history which is a cathedral tenet (the progressive march for ever perfect/purer left) not gonna hold this against him, everyone is brought up with this thinking.
      As jim fond of saying, paraphrasing, ” we have been on this road many time before” history don’t repeat but rhythm
      Left become ever left until reach singularity, stalin arise and stop it, if lucky Caesar come before, worst case singularity continue until dark age with most people dead.
      Wither the monarch is Caesar or general butnacked you will always get a strong man.
      If the qustion what is the order after the singularity stoped?
      Then this is interesting, here probably I will agree with sargon, if there is no alternative to post liberal order, stalin will rule with dead cathedral religion

      • jim says:

        Stalin was huge improvement. The terror against the elite was necessary to end the terror against the people and the destruction of Russia’s productive capability. They call it the “Great” Terror, because they cheerfully forget the the Liquidation of the Kulaks.

        • jim says:

          When people talk about Stalin’s great success in industrializing, they neglect to mention that in the events leading to the great terror, Russia suffered radical and rapid de-industrialization, and by 1940 Russia was only back to roughly comparable parity with the other great powers that it had previously had.

          I suspect that this may well have caused the Rothschild bankruptcy and their resulting loss of power. The Rothschild financial strategy was to use their money and their depositor’s money to foment war and revolution, and use the resulting political power to gain control of other people’s money. Which strategy in Russia succeeded in gaining political power, but the resulting money failed to materialize. The plans of evil are often marred by evil.

      • A2 says:

        See also, The Whig Interpretation of History.

    • Pax Imperialis says:

      “Here’s the assignment” Christ, with that terminology (Military/DoD would say mission) you must be an academic or State Department (same thing really)! Kidding aside, I think Benjamin gets several major things wrong. This will be somewhat winding of a post for I’m drinking far to much again and have far too much time on my hands curtsy of covid (vax) complications. Hopefully it’s coherent.

      NRx aligned views, at least in my personal experiences (as limited as they are) aren’t really internet dependent. Rather they seem to largely be concentrated among those in close proximity to power be it that they work for it or are the legacy inheritors. They are insiders… but also outsiders… Yarvin certainly was. How common that is remains a mystery, as real world data is scarce, but considering that Yarvin’s biggest public sympathizers appears in places like the Caremont Institute or Fox News (Tucker Carlson has the same education and social sphere of any normal swamp creature) which are legacy institutions closely tied to power… Hell, even the little that is known about figures like Michael Malice or H.E. Negash points to Cathedral proximity. I suspect that my suspicion is largely true. On a side note Sargon of Akkad always struck me as a pleb. Plebs are often virtuous and valuable to power be it a Cathedral like power or a dissident power interested in restoration, but they lack insight into the inner workings of power. Just how much Plebian intellectual influence existed in the restoration of Rome by the Caesars?

      So Benjamin imploring NRx to “get off the internet” seems to start off at a false a priori. Not that it’s entirely wrong, just that the sphere of intellectual influence is overly vague if not entirely wrong in framing. The internet might be the main vehicle of communication, in much the way that the public forums of Rome were the main vehicle of communication, but that says nothing about the groups within the forums speaking to each other or what is happening under the surface.

      A more correct version of what Benjamin should be saying is: “get away from (Cathedral) power.” Which is easier said than done especially if one is already submerged in it. Heck, even Benjamin as a YouTube personality is playing with power! Even more so if one is born into it as a legacy inheritor. What the internet did was allow NRx aligned voices to find out they weren’t alone. “Reactionary” views are fairly common in DoD (and I suspect in the wider government outside DC), but highly censored by both oneself and highers such that one can never know if such views are particular to oneself or indicative of a wider audience. The internet gave coherence to those ideas which gave them power in parallel to power. Telling NRx sympathetic to get off the internet is akin to stop contesting parallel power completely. Not too dissimilar to Yarvin advocating disengagement with power (the Cathedral), but it goes beyond Yarvin as to advocate not forming parallel power at all.

      “he asserts that whatever the post liberal order is, it will most likely be a synthesis of liberalism and whatever topples it.”

      This is perhaps the greatest point of disagreement I have. Regime change does typically retain aesthetics of the previous regime. Calling that a synthesis of ideology is wrong. Aesthetics are not the same as qualitative realities. The Roman Empire vs the Roman Republic both felt distinctly Roman in aesthetics. The mechanism of governance where completely different. Any such regime change in America or the wider west will be the same. The new regime will speak in much of the same terms as the founding fathers or western “liberalism” but share little in real operation similarity. It will fly the same flag with, hopefully, all 50 stars. It will sing the same songs of liberty and freedom. It will not have the same institutions of power. It will strive to achieve liberty and freedom in completely different methods.

      Look at historical precedent. The antebellum America was distinctly different from post civil war America. Yet Americans still shared the same aesthetics and political language. The Russians of today still share many of the same aesthetics of the Soviet Union (some of those Russian Tankers drove into Ukraine with Soviet flags), but they are completely different in an almost diametrically opposed ways. Much in the same way that Orthodox Tsarist Russia was the complete opposite of Atheist Communist Soviet Union. “Monarchical” UK appears to share much of the traditions as the Magna Carta Libertatum England of old, yet in reality shares nothing. The French still sing!

      “To arms, citizens,
      Form your battalions,
      March, march!
      Let an impure blood
      Water our furrows!”

      That isn’t the France of today yet they still identify with it!

      A sense of political continuity is often established by a continuity of cultural icons, but that shouldn’t be conflated with actual political continuity. Shared continuity of cultural iconography is often mistaken as a continuity of political structure. A most devious and useful psychological trick that any new regime should take advantage of!

      So who are the American dissidents (and on a wider question, who are the western dissidents?)? Many see the rot of modern/woke/liberal society and political structure but love their cultural heritage, They love America/France/England/etc in the the vague yet definite cultural definitions of those nations. A Frenchman would be hard pressed to define what is French yet would always know it when he sees it much in the same way an American Judge once said he has a difficult time defining pornography yet will definitely know it when he sees it. These dissidents often hate and completely reject the political structure. They love their culture.

      The new regime will not be a synthesis of liberalism and whatever topples it. Rather it will be a continuation of the underlying cultural iconography (political iconography may get carried over as well) with a seemingly diametrically opposing political system hidden underneath shared iconography that is falsely seen as continuation. Benjamin is mistaking far older cultural aesthetics with current day liberalism, but his culture’s aesthetics predate liberalism entirely as do the cultures of America/France/etc.

      ________________ Skip here for TL;DR________________

      The post liberal older will not be a political/religious synthesis of liberalism and whatever topples it, but it will have a shared cultural aesthetic that will give an illusion of continuity and thus an illusion of political synthesis. Something that any regime change should take advantage of.

      ________________Off topic, feel free to ignore_________

      Hopefully this (short essay) didn’t come off as overly Jewish in semantics (I’m East Asian American I swear!), although I did go through and survived the heavily Judaically influence modern American academic system (Masters degree) so I might as well be a “Jew”… Drunk humor aside… I hope there were some useful insights in here. I’m rambling and I know it. Much thanks to spell checker.

      Which reminds me of a previous point of discussion here about nothing of importance being taught in the university system for engineers (and technical fields in general). I was deeply depressed entering graduate school having to bury several close family members, and was basically an alcoholic drinking at least 6 high ABV beers a day and for the most part only attending classes for exams. I sometimes even forgot to show up for the exams as well… Still completed my masters program in a “top 50” public university engineering program. Still got a 6 figure before quitting it to go into the military. If memory serves me correctly Anonymous Fake was bitching about the academics system being unfair about how education doesn’t lead to good jobs. Academia is largely pay to win, and I’m sympathetic to those who were burned by that system. It’s horrifying we put such stock on a system that doesn’t really measure anything except willingness to pay.

      If any of you ever end up enacting the new regime. I pray that you put an end to that atrocity.

      • Kunning Drueger says:

        Considering the source material and responses further, it occurs to me that Benjamin’s assertion is predicated on the consistent occurrence of elements of the bureaucracy, sometimes quite large elements, pass through the Change more or less intact. This can be accidental, intentional, or even unavoidable, depending on the situation. For the most part, I think it’s laziness or cowardice or master procedural outcome manipulators doing what they do best: surviving. Who/what/whichever wins, if they truly wish to “break the mold,” will need to, above all else, break this cycle.

        For the record, I am the first 101 level instructor at the nascent Antiversity. I’m the first one you’ll deal with before you get passed off into the rarified ranks of the anti-Masters.

        • Pax Imperialis says:

          Institutions are people, The most obvious example is the Supreme Court where the difference of a single justice can sway the court and its culture. Suppose the hypothetical in which the court is stacked full of Alito and Thomas clones. Sure, the institution is the “same,” it’s still called the Supreme Court, it might even have a similar culture, but it would be such a large departure from current norms it would be something completely different. The equivalent nightmare example would be a court full of Kagan and Ginsburg clones.

          “the consistent occurrence of elements of the bureaucracy, sometimes quite large elements, pass through the Change more or less intact.”

          The men and women of the American bureaucracy of today are an highly insular and exclusive group. Exponentially so as you get closer to DC. These institutions from the outside are so massive and incomprehensible that they look like monolithic faceless gray suits. Dissidents are isolated and purged as we see with FBI and similar getting rid of conservatives. DoD reserves the purging for higher Officer ranks otherwise it wouldn’t have a military.

          What would happen in any real regime change would be that the doors at both the low end and the high end gets opened up to all the previous undesirables (middle America). Just opening the door at the high end results in bureaucracy not following along with directives. Just opening the door at the low end results in your personnel never advancing into the heart of the organization. Opening at both ends allows the institutional heart to be outflanked and taken over because the high end provides political cover for the friendly low end to march through the institution.

          Conservative presidents have made the mistake of thinking that the bureaucracy is just like the Supreme Court in that appointing at the very top level is all that’s needed to exert influence. Possible for an organization that is only 9 coequal big bosses and their clerks. Not possible for a multi million personnel government with an uncountable number of small bosses who effect day to day operations.

          The crux of my argument is that most regime changes that appear to retain elements of the previous bureaucracy do so only in name and appearance. By the time most regimes fall, their bureaucracies have become highly insular and exclusive groups. Those groups get cracked wide open from the top and the bottom. The new people entering tend to have little to no respect for the old regime’s culture and values and ways to doing things. In America’s case, the new people that would enter given the chance absolutely hate everything about the current regime. They won’t get assimilated into the previous culture, rather they’ll make life so insufferable for the left overs of the previous regime that the remnants either defect or retire.

          Imagine what would happen to State Department if all new entry level hires where good old boys from Georgia/Alabama/etc and all the top level appointments were also a bunch of good old boys from the South. Or in a more personalized hypothetical, imagine what would happen to a university if a new president fired all the deans, replaced them with (smart) hicks, and only hired hicks for the all new entry level positions. The hick deans would provide political cover for the hick assistant professors who mysteriously are the only ones getting promoted. Eventually the university becomes something completely different even if it’s still called a university.

          Lets look at real world example of DoD (The Pentagon in particular). 1940s DoD had people like Curtis LeMay and George Patton. DoD in the 1940s was capable of indiscriminate mass killings. Today’s DoD has generals who personally travel to Afghan villages to apologize. They break down and cry in front of Afghans over accidental killings. There was a quiet regime change in the 1960s-1980s. There’s nothing that relates DoD of today to DoD of 1940 besides name and symbols. There’s another quiet regime change going on right now. Examination of KGB to FSB show much of the same level of disconnect even though FSB is thought of as just a reskinned KGB.

          What we really see with regime change is:

          “the consistent occurrence of aesthetics of the previous regime and bureaucracy, sometimes quite large elements, pass through the Change more or less intact.”

          But those aesthetics do not reflect operational reality.

          • Kunning Drueger says:

            All good points, and I will try to circle back and respond later, but I’m going to pull a nasty academic trick and reframe the discussion:

            Benjamin’s core argument for the Liberal order persisting in some way in the new regime was predicated on the desire of the populace to retain the things they like (read: demand) from the old order. They won’t tolerate all of their rights (read: privileges) being stripped away, and the new regime will be strongly incentivized to acquiesce where necessary. Depending on how the regime change occurs, things like war weariness, personnel loses, or new geopolitical realities could effect the likelihood of this possibility. The new regime would be under pressure to bring in elements of the former regime to “consult,” and thereby keep the ghost of the regime alive. This is what happened to Trump’s regime, BTW. Indeed, this is how it works now; today’s civil servants are tomorrow’s consultants are next week’s civil servants.

            There are probably other mechanisms by which bureaucracies propagate themselves through time, but this one poses an very real and substantial threat. Personally, I think a forceful paradigm shift is the best route, boldly and violently demonstrating that the new regime is completely unconcerned with whatever the dead regime was doing, and only cares about a set of narrow and deep concerns. This must be carefully balanced against the threat of accidentally spawning a parallel institution that could incidentally make the new regime redundant, but that’s probably a coup complete issue(s).

    • dumbassery says:

      [*the shill tells us that shills always win*]

  24. The Cathedral is also noticing us Hindu “reactionaries”.
    https://www.bbc.com/news/av/stories-61610891

    Via amerika.org

    • Globalist Power Terminated 2 says:

      Absolutely BASED!

    • Red says:

      Based Hindus. Take your nation and religion back.

    • Kunning Drueger says:

      HERE LIES: [the latest Alt-Right project]

      IT DIED OF: [voluntary interaction with known journalists]

      Dear Lord, please send us leadership that isn’t so fucking susceptible to “””attention””””

      • yewotm8 says:

        They’ll always be able to find a 16 year old who can’t help himself.

        • Kunning Drueger says:

          I wish that was the case, but sadly Elite theory holds; the underlings don’t matter. It’s the leadership after they start to get a taste of influence, seeing admiring faces in room with more strangers than familiars, some thick of thigh & thick of mind brunette with librarian glasses and a high tolerance for whiskey, feeling like a big man but thinking like the internet shitlord they actually are.

          I can’t go into details that prove my point directly, but I’ve seen it firsthand. I’ve been in the fucking room when someone gets snookered into divulging details, dropping names, sharing plans. It’s always an ego trip or a hardening dick, some fuckwit faggot high on his shit.

          It’s going to happen here. If we ever step a toe out from the shadow’s shadow, some journalist is going to sashay in, all compliments and assurances. Someone needs to carry the banner of No Journos, Ever. No excuses or exceptions. The moment it is known, they are ejected, politely or otherwise. It’s kind of sad, really: leftist operations die from lack of engagement, and rightist endeavors collapse because of attention.

          • Red says:

            >Someone needs to carry the banner of No Journos, Ever.

            Fame attracts women, very hard for men to pass up on that. What you need is your own group of reporters working for your side. Problem is journalism is a money losing industry without state funding. Good propaganda is costly, but as the Nazis proved it’s worth it’s weight in gold.

            • Pax Imperialis says:

              Slight caveat. There is no shortage of “reporters” working for any particular side. Propaganda is easy to heavily produce. The problem is with distribution.

              Distribution is both costly and subject to censorship by the powers that be.

              Murdoch Murdoch had surprisingly high production values all things considered. Getting it to the masses on the other hand proved difficult.

              Walt Bismarch was also exquisite and clearly the product of love… It’s also gone from YouTube.

              The problem isn’t that journalism is a money losing industry without state funding, there are plenty of true believers of any ideology to work for near free, the problem is that not all journalism can escape the current power.

          • The Cominator says:

            I tend to imagine right wingers even if desperate for pussy are less likely on the whole to spill their guts to a pretty face than (non faggot) leftists are.

            Far right wingers tend to be either womanizing chads (or former womanizing chads who are married and try not to humiliate the wife too much) or incels (or whoremongers). Neither group particularly trusts women in general very much and neither would be inclined to spill their guts to a strange one… both groups know that women lack loyalty and accountability* as men understand it.

            The simps who trust women… tend to be the sexual success equivalent of midwits and they like intellectual midwits tend to be leftists or at least cuckservatives.

            * Particularly accountability women can’t handle blaming themselves for shit going wrong in their own mind, women who fit the description of BPD I’ve known a couple very well… they are actually overly maligned but one thing different about them is they kind of lack the female rationalization hamster and DO realize eventually that the crazy self destructive shit and its consequences were the result of their own irrational inexplicable bad decisions… and this drives them more and more depressed and mad over time.

            • Adam says:

              I agree. I would rather deal with BPD than NPD in a girl. At least with BPD they feel bad after. NPD is just straight evil no remorse.

              • The Cominator says:

                Though headshrinker descripters are loose at best… girls who fit the BPD descriptor are also fun to be around when they ain’t splitting you black (and sometimes they are funny even then)… women are rarely funny or insightful but the two bpd girls i knew well… hilarious not a little funny one had me laughing pretty much nonstop for six hours straight.

                NPDs which is more and more what a typical American feminist is like have no redeeming qualities.

                • Adam says:

                  Yeah. And with BPD at least they are aware they have a problem. With NPD it’s denial start to finish. BPD girls will have stretches of honesty mixed in there.

          • alf says:

            Pax Dickinson wrote the definitive edition on how to deal with journalists. Unfortunately he wrote it on Social Matter so the article is dead. Buuut here’s a back-up. NRx gold.

            • Neurotoxin says:

              alf, the link to Garden of the Internet is dead, both from Jim’s sidebar and the one at A Mari Usque ad Mare. Hopefully you haven’t been thoughtcrimed but are just changing some stuff.

            • Cloudswrest says:

              One of the best trolls of all time!

    • someDude says:

      @Dharmic, I wanted to post this comment on your or Suones’ blog but could not do so as the comment section on WordPress is screwed up. I can’t actually see what I am typing since the comment space is too narrow in the vertical dimension. So I’ll post it here.

      Let’s analyse the video
      1. Self righteous looking Journo who no one heard of before: Check
      2. Journo has a lizard face: Check (Reminded me of Audrey Truschke)
      3. Brought out the obligatory Muslim Scholar who no one heard of before: Check
      4. Trotted out a westernized Muslim Feminist who no one heard of before: Check
      5. Talking about Feelz: Check

      • suones says:

        This is a fake op. Like the “teenage Nazis” they used to parade who eventually “grew up,” hung up their swastikas and ratted out their friends, becoming “reformed”-Nazis and joining the talk-show circuit. Andrew Anglin was groomed for that path as well, but he turned out to be the Real Deal.

        I’ll only believe it when someone comes to talk to me. And then I’ll not talk, ofc. As much as I long for my own paladin legions, priestly struggle has to necessarily come after military strength. Modi has launched full-scale into fixing the military first. Our time will come later.

        • jim says:

          Not seeing your reasoning or point here. Christianity was a thing for a long time, and then one day Constantine, pissed because the priests of the official religion of his army were opposing him, an opposition likely to prove fatal for him, had his army march under Christian banners.

  25. ExileStyle says:

    So the Texas GOP just passed a pretty based platform (https://texasgop.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/6-Permanent-Platform-Committee-FINAL-REPORT-6-16-2022.pdf. It explicitly reasserts Texas’s right to secession in section 33:

    “Texas retains the right to secede from the United States, and the Texas Legislature should be called upon to pass a referendum consistent thereto.”

    Seeing as how Texas is a major counterweight to leftist aims on a national scale, would we wholeheartedly welcome Texan secession, or hope to hold onto them as a prime ally for reaction on a national scale? Also, what would secession mean for a post-Texas USA, which would be even more leftist than before on the whole?

    • jim says:

      Platforms get routinely ignored. They are just intended to re-assure the faithful. Cuckservatives will enthusiastically vote for them without a second thought in conference, and then utterly ignore them in the legislature and their offices.

      The platform is a re-assertion of the old faith of the Republic, Nature’s God. Which has a whole lot in common with reaction. But subsequent developments were a result of the bad seed in that old faith. And this old faith, though an enormous improvement on its degenerate successors, is not a viable faith in a time of decadent elites.

      The way forward is Christian National Capitalism, which we can see taking root among the Ultra Maga insurrectionists in the Republican Party, one of whom was recently arrested on suspicion of conspiracy to prevent his election being stolen.

    • Pooch says:

      I don’t think secession can happen. The fundamental underlying incentive behind secession of the Civil War was economic, not religious or social.

      The aristocracy of the self-sufficient agrarian slave economy South was going to lose a lot of money by freeing their slaves and were incentivized heavily to resist the immediate transition to an industrialized economy and society.

      We don’t have these regional economic dynamics at play anymore in the US. The US is uniformly a post-industrial society, so I think secession is not in the cards.

      • Jamesthe1st says:

        What about oil though? The Federal green cult regulations treaten to eventually cut off the Texas economy which is oil dependent.

        • ExileStyle says:

          A more realistic route is to effectively if not actually secede via asserting constitutional 10th Amendment rights. Actual secession is unlikely, but if they simply cease paying attention to/enforcing undesirable federal laws they could eventually become sovereign in everything but name.

          This could be an effective strategy for red states going forward. Or in fact all states, leading to federal devolution. Blue states are already making moves like this with their “sanctuary state” rhetoric and legislation.

          If enough states start simply ignoring the federal government, their resources for enforcement will start to be spread thin and could at least dilute their power.

        • Pooch says:

          The problem is the oil industry is dominated by large globocorps controlled by the national elite.

          It’s not like there is a localized Texan aristocracy who do the drilling in via mom and pop small business. The corporations do it all, which differs the situation of the Confederate South significantly.

          • Kunning Drueger says:

            This may not actually be the case for drilling and prospecting, but it does seem to be the case for refining.

            Walmart controls a lot of markets for goods, but that doesn’t mean smaller businesses are extinct. It’s just that they can’t compete in the current configuration.

            • Pooch says:

              The rapidly diminishing small business owners exist but they are not elite. Middle class.

              If the elite had their druthers, would put all small business out of business and replace them with globocorps. A lot of their decisions, when viewed through this lenses, makes total sense including black violence and the raising of gas prices. Small businesses just represent money the elite haven’t stolen yet.

          • The Cominator says:

            The oil industry is not producing because of Biden and his administration. People who blame the oil companies should be executed immediately. The economic elite are not by and large speaking the Great Reset elite (though there are people like Bill Gates). If they were Trump’s economic policies wouldn’t work.

            • Pooch says:

              Unrelated and irrelevant to the conversation.

              The discussion is not about the oil industry producing or not producing. It is about who controls the oil industry, a local regional Texan elite or the national US elite.

              • Kunning Drueger says:

                No single entity, or even a score of entities, controls the oil industry. So many faults from top to bottom. Cathedral propaganda terms is relevant to this discussion, because they maintain the lie that some cabal of wealthy white men in a hidden boardroom full of cigar smoke are making all the decisions. I’d go as far as saying no single Major could solo a Discovery to Delivery. Literally hundreds of companies, consultancies, and contractors are necessary throughout the entire process. Refining is the one category wherein direct control is exerted by the Majors and/or governments.

                • Pooch says:

                  It’s long been known the large globocorps collaborate and collude with each other, with the political ruling class providing legal and political protection for their oligopolies.

                  In fact, members of the political families sit on their boards. I see no meaningful distinction between the globocorps and the elite. It’s the same class of people.

                  The oil corporations are outer party through and through. Biden attacking the oil industry is just inter-Uniparty conflict.

                  The inner party attacking the outer party, which differs significantly the situation of the Civil War where you had two sets of regional elites with two completely separately ways of life and culture.

                • jim says:

                  Refineries are custom made as enormous one off jobs. We need a Musk who mass produces refinery components that fit into a container, and can be bolted together on site with the minimum of fuss, the way Musk mass produces rockets.

                  Mass production of mass production capability is the next industrial revolution. Housing and offices should be built out panels that fit inside a shipping container. But mass production of early twentieth century high tech components, such as refinery components, is likely to give better return on investment. Housing benefits less.

              • The Cominator says:

                Its very relevant to the conversation, yes the government elite is sabotaging oil production. Ron Klain controls the oil industry more than anyone rught now…

      • Frank Matters says:

        Respectfully, this is accepting an enemy frame. “Those greedy slavers just want to keep their plantations!”

        The south always understood this as a Holy War, understood this as a massive centralization of power in the land, from state executives to federal executives. If you scratch lightly at the rhetoric of the time, this becomes clear.

        Reasoning aside, I agree with your assertion. Secession largely cannot happen because we are now a fractal mess of tribal alliances with an overarching, largely enemy, mono-culture. It is simply unthinkable for too many people, and the logistics are too insurmountable, and the resulting retaliation would be too ferocious to withstand for any singular state. Perhaps in the future, when things become so much worse economically, and when the commies cannot keep it in their pants and have bee ell em squads bussed into previously remote white neighborhoods under protection of federal agents, this will be reconsidered. Then again, the answer will just as likely be to take the crown instead of break the kingdom.

        • Pooch says:

          Respectfully, this is accepting an enemy frame. “Those greedy slavers just want to keep their plantations!”

          The south always understood this as a Holy War, understood this as a massive centralization of power in the land, from state executives to federal executives. If you scratch lightly at the rhetoric of the time, this becomes clear.

          The transition of the agrarian slave plantation society to an industrialized society meant the status and fortunes of the hereditary Southern aristocracy would go down the drain. The Southern gentlemen/belle Gone With the Wind society derives from this old now extinct southern elite class

          The Southern elite never understood the Civil War as a Holy War. If it did, would have ordered the Army of the Potomac to march on Boston and destroy Harvard, burning down every Unitarian Church on the way there, after the rout of the Union Army at the First Battle of Bull Run.

          It is precisely this reason why the South lost. Failed to understand they were in a total holy war with the heretical North.

          • alf says:

            It is precisely this reason why the South lost. Failed to understand they were in a total holy war with the heretical North.

            That’s my understanding as well. Once again, the eternal reason the right has been losing to the left: the right fights a rational war, the left fights a holy war.

          • Pooch says:

            he Southern gentlemen/belle Gone With the Wind culture*

          • S says:

            “The transition of the agrarian slave plantation society to an industrialized society meant the status and fortunes of the hereditary Southern aristocracy would go down the drain.”

            It is my understanding the South doesn’t have good sites for water power so had to wait until electricity before they could build up industry.

            “It is precisely this reason why the South lost. Failed to understand they were in a total holy war with the heretical North.”

            The South didn’t understand politics. They were fine with immigration despite the fact immigrants went primarily to the North. Even without a conflict with the North this would mean over time they gradually lose out as the North gains move weight in congress and the electoral college.

            It is worse when you realize they banned the importation of slaves in 1808 in part because that would drive up the value of existing slaves. Banning adding more free labor through immigration accomplishes the same thing!

        • The Cominator says:

          The Southern elite imho reacted to the Lincoln election with incredible stupidity. Lincoln was not fanatically holy, he was a free soiler he had zero plans to take the slaves of planters in the existing slave states and was willing to offer the Crittenden amendment.

          The free soilers were also right to not want masses of niggers brought into the territories.

          • Pooch says:

            I actually agree. An industrialized society seems more in alignment with Gnon than a mass slave agrarian society.

            • Pooch says:

              This did result in the mass importation of the Ellis Islanders, yet still I’d rather have lower caste whites imported en masse than blacks.

              • The Cominator says:

                The Irish were coming over before the civil war, the Irish were the big problem immigrant group NOT the Italians as a whole… Fauci the Jesuit being a big exception.

                Italians now tend to vote republican… the irish (of which im part) are still a problem.

                • Pooch says:

                  Yes the Irish were coming over before the war to the North because the North was industrializing before the war.

          • Pooch says:

            Lincoln was not fanatically holy, he was a free soiler he had zero plans to take the slaves of planters in the existing slave states and was willing to offer the Crittenden amendment.

            I don’t believe this is true. Lincoln and the rest of the Republicans rejected the Crittenden Compromise.

            • The Cominator says:

              My understanding was that Lincoln was willing to accept it for existing slave states (as long as it eventually sunsetted) but would not for the territories.

              • S says:

                That makes any future states automatically free states. How many more free states before you have enough votes to ignore the slave states and ban slavery?

                Compromises that make you stronger over time until you can break are worthless.

          • jim says:

            You cannot compromise with the woke. As soon as you do, they smell weakness, pocket the compromise, and demand more. If you concede to an implicit threat, your concessions will be pocketed and soon followed by an explicit threat, and if you concede to the explicit thread, further demands to which you also concede, but the threat gets carried out anyway. Sane evil you can buy off with concessions. Insane evil just has to be killed.

            The South should have recognized this as a holy war, and gone after Harvard, not Fort Sumter. They needed to kill every male in the general vicinity of Harvard, enslave every fertile age woman, and carry them off. That was the only possible way to end the war.

            Lincoln’s offers of compromise might well have been sincere, but he subscribed to a priesthood who had tasted blood. The priesthood would have pocketed the compromise, and demanded a further compromise. The people who sponsored terrorism against the slave states intended war without end. The compromise would not have ended terror, but escalated it.

            And once war began, needed to strike at the head, Harvard, not the fists, Port Sumter. The insane enemy is going to go on fighting till you strike the head.

            • The Cominator says:

              I don’t think the free soilers were particularly woke, wanting the territories to be mostly nigger slave free was reasonable.

              • S says:

                From wiki:
                “The 1852 party platform more overtly denounced slavery, and also called for the diplomatic recognition of Haiti.[60] Many Free Soilers also supported the temperance movement”

                The free soilers were woke- they lacked protection against entryism.

                The non-woke option was the Know-Nothings.

                • The Cominator says:

                  The know nothings (who were redpilled on the papist and jesuit question) were cool but realistically weren’t going to win.

          • S says:

            Com, there was John Brown’s raid in 1859. The problem isn’t the raid. The problem is that the people who gave John Brown money and weapons got pulled before the congress. ALL the Republicans declared they were totally innocent and nothing should be done to punish them.

            The South saw the writing on the wall. The North had declared the elimination of slavery a historical inevitability (a scorpion stinging itself to death) and was willing to sponsor murder in order to make their prophecy come true.

            • The Cominator says:

              The Dred Scott decision also made free territories legally meaningless so there was some bad misconduct on both sides. John Brown was widely cobsidered a nut in his youth.

              • jim says:

                He was a nut who was repeatedly allowed to commit murder with impunity. He had some very powerful people covering for him. The South needed to hang those people. John Brown was merely a highly expendable minion.

                And to hang those people, they needed to march on Harvard.

                • The Cominator says:

                  I don’t know how that ended up saying in his youth… i mean a nutvinitially…

              • S says:

                This was after the North blatantly violated the terms of the Fugitive Slave Act (Compromise of 1850).

                • The Cominator says:

                  The fugitive slave act required the active help of the population in assisting an institution they detested. That the South ever thought the fugitive slave acts were going to work out other than the way they did (a mostly dead letter with the exception of some bounty hunters) just shows me more that they were completely delusional…

                • S says:

                  Southerners banned the importation of slaves while allowing immigration. Thinking ahead was not their strong suit.

                  That said apparently they got Northern representatives to go along with the passage of the 1850 Act suggests either lying on the part of the Northern reps (this will totally work) or no one reading the bill.

                • jim says:

                  As I said, if you make a concession to the woke, it is just a down payment on the next concession.

      • Kunning Drueger says:

        >The US is uniformly a post-industrial society

        Strong disagree. There is absolutely a hierarchy of States. There’s always a hierarchy. And there’s a ton of growth potential in States that are low due to the demonic agenda of their dominant elites (see: California, Virginia, Colorado, New York). Trump demonstrated explicitly that no magic wand is required to reindustrialize. Musk is demonstrating that pivoting and relocating can dramatically alter the potentials. Desantis and Noem have and are demonstrating that FedGov is by no means universally dominant.

        Just as we are now closer than ever before to a strategic nuclear exchange because Russia is no longer communist (which flies in the face of the common knowledge understanding of the Cold War dynamic), so too are we close to potential balkanization precisely because some States have the leadership, geography, and connections to stand alone. If the Petrodollar System collapses, I’d say the potential for balkanization or Boog becomes nearly 100%.

        • Pooch says:

          Trump demonstrated explicitly that no magic wand is required to reindustrialize.

          Nothing short of banning all Chinese imports turns back the clock enough for the US to transition back to a full industrial society.

          • Kunning Drueger says:

            I’m sure the Chinese can make good stuff, but it never seems to get into the industries I have contact with. I’ve never once in my life heard an engineer, technician, or laborer praise Chinese products, or even choose them, over literally every other possible option. This was a while ago, but I remember a lighting package with a bunch of legit and Chinese knockoff HMI lights. The legit ones were over a decade old, the chink cans were literally fresh out the box. Not a single one survived the production. The only thing China has going for it is quantity, and this will be true until they actually are forced to compete without rigging the game, or picking games with a built in advantage.

            Consider: Chinese missiles are awesome on paper, so much so that the Aircraft Carrier may be an obsolete technology… in the South China Sea. This is not a global advantage.

            The Chinese navy is the largest in the world… but they can’t do long deployments or operate without constant shore based support, resupply, and crew renewal. A navy that’s never fought a battle at sea is an expensive collection of set pieces for propaganda videos (this applies everywhere, not just China).

            We don’t need to ban Chinese imports, we need to tariff them appropriately. China’s had training wheels and a walled garden for long enough.

            • Pooch says:

              We don’t need to ban Chinese imports, we need to tariff them appropriately.

              I’d be fine with this too. It’s a big ask but I’d argue this would be the single most impactful and meaningful thing a potential Caesar Augustus could possibly do to “Save America”.

              • The Cominator says:

                Trump did tariff China, America’s problem is with its political leaders who impose policies that are sabotage. Merely tariffing China would not solve all other areas of sabotage.

                • Pooch says:

                  Trump had a good start with limited tariffs on China, namely steel and aluminum.

                  We would need that massively increased on all Chinese goods to change the underlying economic incentives that would result in bringing back all industrialized labor jobs back to the US.

                • The Cominator says:

                  Trump’s lowering corporate taxes and getting energy costs down were more important.

              • jim says:

                I am in favor of free trade, internally and externally, in theory. The way I am in favor of anarchocapitalism in theory. In the real world, however, trade has to be conducted with long range secure property rights protected by a sovereign, which for international trade requires bilateral agreements between all sovereigns on the path of the goods. and each agreement has to be as regulatory, taxed, and interventionist as the most tax happy and intervention intrusive sovereign who is a party to that agreement.

                • Pooch says:

                  What we do with China is not “trade”. The Western globocorps set up their factories in China, instead of the West, to save money by paying laborers Chinese wages instead of Western wages.

                • jim says:

                  That is what the Chinese told the globocorps they would be doing, and it looks good for Globocorp on the bottom line. Reality, however, is that your factory in China is controlled by Chinese, who do not necessarily have the best interests of globocorp in mind. They are practicing national capitalism.

            • jim says:

              > I’m sure the Chinese can make good stuff, but it never seems to get into the industries I have contact with.

              They do make good stuff, and it is quite possible to get good stuff from China. And I recommend doing so wherever possible. But dealing with Chinese businessmen is like dealing with Jews. They are always scamming you. It is hard.

          • Frank Matters says:

            Problem is twofold: our currency is too valuable, and we are far too regulated. Automation and smart logistics means we are capable of making everything cheaper than Chyna even with high wage costs, and a lot of those costs can be offset by having low skilled labor in mexico et al put the machine-made parts together. You are not allowed to do this though because you have crippling regulations and engineering things is evil bad no good. Problem is exacerbated further by exchange rate favoring the weaker currencies, which tends to more than equalize the incurred shipping costs for importing.

  26. The Cominator says:

    Can those of you who are still overly soft and merciful when it comes to leftist agree on one particularly loathsome variety that needs to go. The ones who insist that high gasoline prices have nothing to do with the policies and actions of the Biden administration.

    I have a DEEP hatred and loathing for this particular variety of leftist I think I hate them the way I hate trannies…

    • Pax Imperialis says:

      I sympathize with those hating the leftists who want to rise gas prices. Those leftists often want people to eat bugs. They want to rot the body. My good fortune means I don’t have to suffer that indignity so my priorities are likely different from those who cant. I still believe they have to be persecuted.

      That said I’m far more bothered by the trannies. They are the ones who want me to participate in pointing at a deer and calling it a horse which rots the soul.

      Rotting the Soul is far more insidious than rotting the body.

  27. Leon says:

    Idaho is falling. Its housing prices have skyrocketed and it has become one of the top 20 most expensive states to live in now. The Dakotas and Montana are not far behind.

  28. Varna says:

    A deeper dive into the Russnet through online translate for those of the autistic persuasion.

    PATRIOTIC DISSIDENTS
    On the current economic forum in St Petersburg
    https://katyusha.org/ekonomika/vse-idet-po-shvabu.-pmef-2022-den-vtoroj.html

    Article on a congresswoman trying to push through clotshots for kids and pregnant women
    https://katyusha.org/semya/250072-narod-protiv-ostaninoj-vsled-za-yuvenalshhinoj-dama-iz-kprf-vyistupila-zastrelshhiczej-kovid-privivok-dlya-malyishej-i-beremennyix.html

    Criticism of Russian court which gave back to an Australian lesbian couple the child of a Russian father
    https://katyusha.org/semya/605063-demokratiya-po-shvabu-otcza-lishayut-roditelskix-prav-za-otkaz-pokazyivat-filmyi-pro-lesbiyanok-a-rossijskaya-sudya-pomogaet-avstralijskim-izvrashhenczam.html

    Article on the looming digitalization of higher educational documents as another step down the slippery slope to globohomo
    https://katyusha.org/obrazovanie/vse-prava-tolko-v-esia-pravitelstvo-gotovitsya-lishit-shkolnikov-i-studentov-bumazhnyix-dokumentov-ob-obrazovanii.html

    On the world economic situation, Ukraine, Taiwan
    https://katyusha.org/vojna/mir-poshel-vraznos-obval-ryinkov-zapada-svo-kitaya-vojna-za-egejskoe-more-i-poslavshij-zapad-lesom-tegeran.html

    On globohomo pederasty propaganda in some new Russian kids book
    https://katyusha.org/obshhee-delo/rosmolodezh-ne-protiv-prodvizheniya-pederastii-v-literature-i-detskix-lageryax.html

    Fringe dissident stuff on the kung-flu, vaccines, and everything else
    http://xn--80aesfpfapfkv.ru-an.info/

    SEMI-MAINSTREAM PATRIOTIC DISSIDENTS
    On Russia exiting the international higher education system and going to back to some mix of Soviet and Tsarist norms
    https://tsargrad.tv/articles/imperija-nanosit-otvetnyj-udar-universitety-vernutsja-k-dorevoljucionnoj-sisteme_567210

    On gas-flow diplomacy
    https://tsargrad.tv/articles/russkij-plan-kot-leopold-gazovyj-kapkan-dlja-evropy-zahlopnulsja_567243

    On the looming artificial food scarcity in the USA
    https://tsargrad.tv/articles/strannye-sovpadenija-ssha-reshili-umorit-sebja-golodom_567408

    On breaking off cultural exchange with the USA
    https://tsargrad.tv/articles/bolshomu-bratu-dveri-zakryty-rossija-razorvala-memorandum-o-vzaimoponimanii-s-ssha_558663

    On fifth-columnists in the Russian scientific establishment
    https://tsargrad.tv/articles/nad-laborantami-kollaboranty-russkuju-nauku-zahvatyvaet-pjataja-kolonna_561230

    MAINSTREAM
    Lithuania is trying to strangle the Kaliningrad enclave
    https://vz.ru/politics/2022/6/18/1104625.html
    (BTW if they provoke Putin to do a mirror move of 1939 Hitler – forced land corridor to reach the exact same piece of “Eastern Prussia”, this would be peak clown world times a hundred)

    Playfully skeptical article on Putin’s new speech
    https://www.kp.ru/daily/27407.5/4604381/

    On the ability of the Russian economy to withstand sanctions pressure by economic sector
    https://special.kommersant.ru/import/?utm_source=kommersant&utm_medium=partner&utm_campaign=subimport

    FEMALE STUFF
    6 lifehacks for women for stable relationships
    https://www.womanhit.ru/psychology/on-i-ona/2022-06-17-6lajfhakov-dlja-teh-kto-neumeet-stroit-otnoshenija/

    The coming sanctions-related famine of botox and sheit
    https://www.womanhit.ru/health-and-beauty/face/2022-06-14-buduschee-bjuti-industrii-podpolnye-kosmetologi-seryj-rynok-preparatov-inadezhda-nakoreju/

  29. Kunning Drueger says:

    Say something nice about Jordan Peterson, maybe he’ll credit you the next time he drops by for ideas:

    https://youtu.be/ayWyzvo9SNY

    • Globalist Power Terminated 2 says:

      Plenty of people make their bread and butter by taking our ideas and watering them down for mass, public consumption.

      (It goes without saying — OF COURSE — that we’ll have to purge/disenfranchise those people eventually.)

      • Kunning Druegger says:

        If they are twisting Jimian Christianity for evil purposes, sure. But why purge/disenfranchise people inclined to carry our message to a wider audience? We may need to correct translation errors and clarify ambiguities, of course.

        • Globalist Power Terminated 2 says:

          We may need to correct translation errors and clarify ambiguities, of course.

          LOL. excellent.

          Well, I do get jittery, perhaps a little too jittery, with anticipation whenever the topic of Minesweeper comes up. (Which isn’t exactly ideal — because it is often that a more… balanced approach yields superior results. The carrot rather than the stick, etc.).

          But in this case your post reminded me of certain groups of former self-professed rightists now on the take with Globohomo. (Or on the take withh Globohomo-adjacent forces — it’s really difficult to tell from a distance.)

      • jim says:

        Checking both the old and new testaments, we find that both Moses and Jesus recommended a policy of tolerance and encouragement for people who were preaching something like their faith, but not actually their faith, to those outside the faith.

        And, checking both the old and new testaments, we find that as soon as those faiths had some success, people started preaching something like their faith, but not actually their faith, to those inside the faith, whereupon Moses and the apostles applied a vigorous policy of intolerance.

        • alf says:

          I believe Jesus said something along the lines of: ‘if his heart is in the right place, and he is not causing trouble, let him do his thing.’

          Which implies that if the heart is in the wrong place and starts causing a bunch of trouble that can’t be ignored, vigorous policy of intolerance. Moses slaughtered thousands of his own tribe for worshipping false gods. (Com, notice the manner in which Moses handled himself. He said, ‘hey guys, I’m totally gone for a couple of days I trust you to not misbehave.’ Came back, they were grossly misbehaving, and thus gave Moses an excuse to commit genocide in a Christian manner. Moses undoubtedly knew many of them were troublemakers from way before, but he waited for the right opportunity.)

          In Peterson’s case, I find it a bit hard to discern where his heart is at. He speaks plainly about transgender surgery, but not so plainly about women. But, he is not causing any trouble for us.

          • Kunning Drueger says:

            JBP drives men towards us. This alone makes him useful.

            The WQ is the hardest pill to swallow and keep down. After all these years and thousands upon scores of thousands of words, many regulars here still harbor blue pill fragments. Every facet of our society is constructed to lie about race and sex, because the Cathedral ceaselessly seeks to immanentize something so wrong, so fake, so obviously incorrect. They start with kids that are pre-verbal and non-ambulatory, and continue up to the literal eulogy. They do this because it contravenes reality, such that a thousand hours of social programming on equality can be undone by 5 minutes of conversation, or 5 seconds of interaction. But all those hours stack up and stick around. It forms a sort of false conscience, a second and sinful still, small voice, ceaselessly whispering: it can’t be all women, surely not all negros, etc.

            • ExileStyle says:

              A great example of this, and an area in need of more memetic attention, is in the whole Tranny Cult and Drag Queen Story Hour thing. Bluepilled conservatives are losing their minds (rightfully) about this while failing (inexcusably) to ask: Who is bringing these children to these events? Who are the ones pushing children into hormonal and genital mutilation from ages where the human memory has hardly even begun to form?

              It’s not the trannies and queers themselves (yet) but the mothers – spooky child-sacrificing Queen of the Night-style mothers – who bring their young to the temples of these new gods, whether directly by placing their severed organs upon the altars or implicitly by allowing them to get lost in the sacrificial labyrinth of public schools.

              The right needs to start talking way, way more about the wicked mothers behind all of this, not just allowing but actively encouraging it to happen.

            • Adam says:

              JBP was on my path here, and much of my internal dialogue and model was built from watching his lectures and podcasts.

              The problem is deeper than the cathedral. It starts with boys being taught and disciplined by their mothers. Many men grow up and disregard their mothers opinion, but many more do not. Many keep seeking out validation from women, teachers, girlfriends/wives etc. It’s a never ending problem.

              • alf says:

                Huh so we actually do have a JPB–>Jim pipeline. Lol.

                • Kunning Drueger says:

                  Cathedral media is a torrent, so any type of resistance creates eddies and and pressure differentials. If JBP is supposed to trap minds and prevent them from going down a redpill path, he’s failing horribly. Notice how the critique he gets from our sphere is how he’s not going far enough, not covering enough, leaving important things unspoken. As opposed to, he’s saying the wrong things (I know there’s contention on this point).

                  Lord Thundercock’s “Dunbar Matrioshka” system is incredibly powerful and not at all constrained to social networks. It applies to memeplexis and information sources as well. JBP is not within the BJC/DailyStormer/??? set. It’s probably not even adjacent, but it is downstream, and that stream is continuous though obstructed, meaning barriers must be circumvented with skill or luck. You don’t need to jump to a non-contiguous DM set to get from JBP to BJC. With a high enough IQ, you could go straight to Jung from JBP and land on Jim, though I think the usual route is probably more circuitous.

                • alf says:

                  I don’t like how his daughter is thotting all over the place. Otherwise, sure, happy to see people matruschka their way over here.

                • Kunning Drueger says:

                  Again, we see the primacy of the WQ. As well, we see that no amount of intellect or analysis will save you from the consequences of female emancipation. I can almost guarantee you that her heart is in the right place. I bet she’s breddy smarb too. But bother brain and heart stand squarely behind her vagina when it comes to making decisions. The irony of course is that JBP knows this, but by marrying himself to the Rationalist Wing, he does not get to use the “Obey me, thot; our God commands it” framework. So he engages in a discussion amongst equals; the poisoned fruit.

              • Pooch says:

                I know nothing about JBP. Have not watched more than 2 seconds of him, but if he is speaking out against feminism, even gently, then I tend to think he’s more with us than against us. Feminism is the root of all evil.

            • alf says:

              JBP drives men towards us. This alone makes him useful.

              Does he? Or does he act as a gatekeeper to keep his fans from tuning into ‘real womanhaters’ like us? Do we have anyone here who started out with JPB and ended with Jim?

              I don’t know the answers to these questions. He is probably useful on the whole. Might be more useful down the road, might be more obstructive down the road. Might just produce the same low information/noise ratio that men in his position tend to produce.

              • Adam says:

                I listened to him on Rogans podcast about 6 years ago or so. Started turning my life around immediately, ended up here.

                I’ve gone through his maps of meaning lectures and biblical lectures a couple of times each. I always learn something new when I do.

                Hes not really a big dominant figure, but he has a lot of courage and he gives that away when he talks, and I think that’s what men are getting from him that they are not getting elsewhere.

                • Adam says:

                  He’s really good to give to your blue pilled normie friends. I’ve got a bunch of friends that follow him now, and my conversations with them have lead to more reactionary conversations.

              • Shooter McGavin says:

                Upon few minutes reflection I can say that I started with JBP. He was the first time I had ever heard of the Soviet gulag which just goes to show you how bad history in public schools is. Heard plenty about the Holocaust and slavery but nothing about the Soviets, Khmer Rouge, or any Marxist violence which would put even the fake 6 million Jew death toll to shame. JBP accidentally redpills people just by talking basic history.

                • Guy says:

                  Peterson is good because he was clearly striving after truth, and in the process explained a lot of old philosophies and myths to young people who had only heard critical analysis of their strawmen. He also has a decent model of consciousness, not explanatory, but how it functions on a large scale in a human. At some point he hit a wall, there’s a famous video of him saying “I can’t go there”when asked a question about the Holodomor and the Jews’ role in it (maybe a Soros shill there damning the Jews’ by omission), but I think more that he can’t face his weaknesses as a man himself, there’s clearly something off with his daughter… and he’s definitely an overly emotional attention seeker who likes to dress up in fancy suits.

                  Anyway point is he was a stop on the road to radicalization for me I suppose. Although I was always much further to the right than him I did find him before finding this place and got deep into his stuff for a while.

                • Adam says:

                  His liberal values are causing him some problems. It’s like he’s trying to have his cake and eat it too. And he’s a boomer, subject to the same conditioning as every other boomer.

                  You can tell he’s under a lot of stress when he talks with guys like Sam Harris. It’s not that he’s not smart enough. He’s just trying to make things compatible, that are not compatible.

                  It’s funny because he’s really knowledgeable on things like alcoholism and addiction, but it seems like he doesn’t really understand spirituality in practice. There seems to be this disconnect as far as his own self awareness.

                  It seems like he’s a guy that’s trying to be too many things at once that are in conflict with one another. Eventually crime stop kicks in and prevents him from potential growth.

                  If he fully embraced straight white male patriarchy and all that that entails and ditched all that other crap things would clear right up for him. I think he’s too afraid to do it because nazis.

              • yewotm8 says:

                I can’t find the clip now (youtube search seems very good at hiding thoughtcrime), but Peterson was the first person I heard suggest that women want rapefugees to be let in precisely because they will rape them and put them in their place, and that “western” men just weren’t doing it for them as we’d become too unwilling to do the needful.

                He apparently hasn’t said it since, so likely deems it too dangerous, but I don’t think that’s very good gatekeeping.

  30. Cloudswrest says:

    This current mainstream fetishization of the word “science” is starting to get to me. I’ve been around for a long time and I don’t recall the word “science” being used as a verb until relatively recently. Example, a recent tweet on the Webb telescope.

    Good news: As of today, 7 out of Webb’s 17 instrument modes are ready for science! …

    I see it everywhere now by the media organs and it’s driving me crazy. It’s like their pushing this “enlightenment rationality” theme to the max.

    • Pooch says:

      Ask them where does science come from and watch their head explode.

    • Red says:

      Reminds me of the 90s cartoon Spiderman TV show for kids. Science was a used verb all the time. Of course that was a kid’s show… kind shows the level at which most of this shitheads are at. Science is a cargo cult that the natives worship as a god.

    • notglowing says:

      I absolutely hate it. The fetishization and politicization of science has escalated to a ridiculous level lately and it has left me disgusted.
      I originally wanted to become a scientist myself, though I feel quite disillusioned.

      There’s also a sort of reaction from some right wing circles now where they just deny science entirely, and claim it was never accurate or honest. Which is one of those memetic dead-end ideas people here talked about.
      In fact it can include some of those particular memetic dead end ideas, including denying heliocentrism or evolution entirely.

    • Fireball says:

      It isnt nothing new. Marx pretend that his ideas were scientific.

  31. Kunning Drueger says:

    St. Anglin contemplates our fallen God Emperor:

    https://stormer-daily.rw/trump-warns-of-world-war-iii/

    […]
    “Although it could possibly be that the US is so completely wrecked by 2024 that World War III is impossible – in which case it would also probably be possible for Trump to win the election, frankly. If the dollar collapses, the military collapses, the whole government is going to be a limping shell, and they’re just simply not going to have the ability to do all of these horrible things they’ve been doing. Lots of the top Jews and homos will flee to New Zealand or whatever. The fact that Ivanka threw Trump under the bus implies that if he ever was able to get back in power, he’d behave in a significantly less Jewish manner.”
    […]
    “Point being: if we’re still having a debate about whether or not we should do World War III, meaning that the dollar has not collapsed and caused the US military to collapse, Trump has zero chance. If the main debate is instead about, you know, not having electricity or food, hyperinflation, roving bands of negro youth slaughtering families, then Trump will probably be able to win, just because the machine won’t have the power anymore.”
    […]
    “It’s a mixed bag, but not bad. He’s definitely not shilling vaccines anymore.”

    As we move towards high summer, the plants my woman dutifully birthed and cultivated begin to bear fruit. Even as the moisture laden heat envelopes my land, we begin to make plans for the cooling of Fall, carefully counting seeds and weighing and measuring the death soaked dirt that gestates our food. The storms conspired to kill our corn, but God offers shelter from the calamitous winds of change and uncertainty. Harvest will come, and the sewing of cold weather crops, the hardy and strange, and the fragile delicates cached away in the greenhouse, will rise renewed as their feckless spring fellows wilt and fall.

    It’s an old magik, a deep magik, the humble glow of a light fantastic. Easy to see but hard to hold, the endless dance of the new and the old. You get lost in the weeds when you sew and grow, taking as a given this give and take. Seeds from forever show up in the mail, from the truck in a box to a hole in the ground, creeping sunward slowly, then suddenly stooped. Plucked, shucked, and boiled, then turned into soup. Imagine this magik as an everyday thing, every man a farmer, every woman a mother. There’s a simple Certain that we traded for ease, and hedonic pursuit breeds uncertainty unbounded.

    Trump may be a fool, but so too am I. Can the fool make a change and again become wise? Some mistakes are so big, their consequences a dye. They straighten,c onstrain, and stain what’s inside. It’s easy to believe you’re the center of your life, but you’re just another plant, one of many in line. You grow ever upward, and in fullness of time, you bring forth your fruit, then you wither and die. So the best I can do is learn from mistakes. Letting go of the past, resting full in His grace.

    Schizopoetry: where cringe meets contemplation.

  32. Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kugiufHh800

    In a moment of serendipitous synchronicity, i happened to find myself crossing over a video featuring everyone’s favorite crypto-fascist, where he just so happened to discuss the story of Arjuna and Krishna on the field.

    I’ve mentioned before that a great deal of the ‘purpleness’ in 20th century Continental discourses was in fact a form of preemptive defense mechanism, by notables in the academies against being whacked by their ‘fellow travelers’ with charges of heresy. Zizek is a man who you could say has elevated this art to a sublime degree; dancing right up to the edge of sense in a way that allows his interlocutors to read what they want into it the rest of the way. This not only afforded him the ability to find regard on all sides, it also allowed him the ability to tactically redefine himself as needed against social attack – a most supremely important attribute given the circles of ‘friends’ he traffics in.

    Even the artfully sloven (or should we say, Slovenian?) appearance, behavioral tics, accentuation, all come together as part of the theatrical appearance. The offering of the man himself as something that can be seen one way or another all at once; a ideologue to be taken seriously; a harmless crank that can be safely dismissed; an extended status accessory as someone you present yourself as ‘getting’, to signal your in-group membership with the cool bohemians club. In short terms, one of the finest court jesters of the age.

    • someDude says:

      The Cathedral just wants a monopoly on Genocide, Yawn!

    • Globalist Power Terminated 2 says:

      Saint John in a state of Holy Anger? Wonderful!

    • jim says:

      > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kugiufHh800
      >
      > In a moment of serendipitous synchronicity, i happened to find myself crossing over a video featuring everyone’s favorite crypto-fascist, where he just so happened to discuss the story of Arjuna and Krishna on the field.

      Next time the topic of Krishna arises, I am going to post an article, with a title something like “Hinduism is no good as a state religion because of severe demon infestation”, with the actual fascist crime thoughts hidden behind Slavoj Žižek’s crypto fascist thoughts in plain view.

      At 14:10 “you need something like a religion to make good people do bad things”. No. You need something like a demonic religion to make good people do bad things. And this crypto fascist has been deniably telling his audience of literal or metaphorical demon worshipers that the faith of the Cathedral is something very like a religion.

      The video is titled the “The desert of post ideology”, but he only pretends to comply with the official faith that demon worship is not an ideology. His starting ramble about Gangnam Style is telling his audience that they believe in an ideology, and when he transitions to Krishna and Arjuna at 15:24 he is explaining why this is the demon Krishna teaching demon worship to Arjuna

      Using language carefully self censored to pass in Harvard, he is telling his audience that they are demon worshipers.

      • Mister Grumpus says:

        @Jim:
        “…that the faith of the Cathedral is something very like a religion.”

        This very point really is the key to understanding everything else, to the point that I’m honestly shocked by how little it’s voiced out loud.

        It reminds me of Archie Bunker’s line that religion is “believing something you know isn’t true.” The woke are probably more correct than the mainstream here, now that I think about it, in that a religion isn’t a “religion” if you genuinely believe it, or if it can burn your house down and castrate your kids if you don’t act like you believe it.

        What do you think is at the core of our collective reticence to recognize Cathedral Wokeness as a competing religion, and even edgycons’ (Tucker, etc) reluctance to call it that?

        • jim says:

          When Harvard was the Vatican of New England, it had absolutely no problems in calling its faith Christianity, although it was seriously postChristian. But it still plausibly claimed to worship God, though clearly Jesus the Jewish community organizer had been demoted. In their eyes he pointed the way to reforming and advancing the law of God, but they had reformed it a lot further, and found him something of an embarrassment.

          After the war of Northern Aggression, by right of conquest, they were now the Vatican of the (forcibly) United States. Before the war of Northern Aggression people said “the United States are …”. Now, with single, forcibly imposed state religion, they said “the United States is …”

          But the bit in the constitution said that there shall be no unitary state religion, which was in practice always understood to mean that each state had the right to its own state religion, was an embarrassment. So they reinterpreted it to mean no state religions at all, and defined themselves as not a religion.

          • Mister Grumpus says:

            There’s just no beating interpretational drift, is there? No magic words that keep their meaning, through centuries, all by themselves. Especially with force of law behind them.

            • jim says:

              Because of creative interpretational drift, legalism does not work. Solution: Give up on legalism.

              Written constitutions are not, in fact very useful. A constitution, to work, has to be a record of the consensus of the elite. And suppose that consensus changes at alarming frequent intervals for wicked reasons?

              Well, you need a virtuous elite with respect for Chesteron’s fence and awareness of deep history, without which no piece of paper will be much use, and with which no piece of paper will be needed.

              For a constitution to be useful, whether written or unwritten, you need an elite that knows history and can think itself into their predecessors shoes.

              • FrankNorman says:

                Also you need an elite that actually cares about what the people who wrote that constitution meant, rather than seeing being “in power” as a blank cheque to do whatever the hell they like.

      • Mr.P says:

        I watched the full 2 hours, including the stupid and thankfully short Q&A.

        St. John’s “finest court jesters of the age” and Jim’s take are spot on.

        Zizek is speaking to a roomful of leftist prog priests and sticking his finger in the eye of their core beliefs, nearly calling them to their face unwitting holiness-spiraled totalitarian zealots — and getting away with it!

      • anon says:

        @ jim
        out of curiosity
        what is the demonic teaching Krishna told to Arjuna ?
        a simple search show Arjuna had cold feet when he saw his family and friends in the enemy army, krishna told him that nothing really matter in the grand of things and it is your destiny to fight and win. which seem straight forward. is it demonic because
        he is fighting his family and friends? despite them allying with the enemy.

        • jim says:

          It is a general purpose justification for doing horrible things that normal men find extremely disturbing.

          How do you get into a war with your nation, your tribe, your friends and your family? The correct response is not moral detachment, but to think about how things got so horribly wrong.

          Its a form of spirituality that detaches you from your innate decency. Comes from demons, whether they be real or metaphorical.

          Circumstances might well arise in the very near future where we are at war with with those close to us, but should those circumstances arise, spiritual detachment is utterly wrong, and would make our conduct in that war utterly wicked.

          The same deeds would have a different moral significance if we did them out of spiritual detachment from the world that we are acting on.

          Spiritual detachment from this world may well be good and holy if you are a hermit in hut in the wilderness living on locusts and wild honey, but is totally evil if you are acting in the world doing things that other people will not necessarily like. Especially if you are doing things that kin and friends may not like.

          Spiritual detachment from locusts and wild honey may well enable one to get closer to the divine.

          Killing in righteous wrath may well be good. Killing in righteous holy wrath is holy. Killing in spiritual detachment is demonic spirituality.

          Maybe Arjuan needed to kill friends and kin. But he should not have been doing so in spiritual detachment. The detachment makes the killing wrongful.

      • Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

        Some further notables.

        43:00~
        The output of polygon organs (eg hollywood) are suffused with the motivation of its faith (even more-so than officially tolerated mcchurches). ‘We have no right to dismiss this as simple commercial manipulation’.
        Also includes a discursion on how open delineation of boundaries allows for greater autonomy (the Paternal archetype) than superficially permissive yet intrusive ‘mandatory hedonism’ moonlighted by social regimentation.

        53:05~
        Do not doubt that people can act with full earnestness in the service of demonic forces (incidentally talmudism is about how to be an effectual demon worshiper). ‘This obscene dimension of the scared is returning more and more violently in our experience’.

        57:20~
        The socialist state (of North Korea) is spiritually matriarchal, and presents itself as a divine mother taking care of the infantile citizenry.

    • Cloudswrest says:

      I have too much A.D.D. to watch this guy long enough to comprehend and understand wtf he is talking about. LOL.

      • Drien says:

        I tried him around a year ago and within the first two minutes he made an argument presupposing that a. Covid was a big deal b. that the lockdowns were effective and necessary and c. The problem was people being unwilling to go along with what was obviously the government looking out for their interest and so wrote him off as another Chomsky tier oxygen thief. Is he actually based?

        • The Cominator says:

          “I tried him around a year ago and within the first two minutes he made an argument presupposing that a. Covid was a big deal b. that the lockdowns were effective and necessary”

          That is all you need to know about someone…

          “Is he actually based?”

          Having believed in Covid proves you are AT BEST a gullible fool.

          • Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

            The theophany of Branch Covidianism was a moment where The Power came down with totality, and none who are namefags could resist is gravity. Observe namefag yarvin, who preached the reasonableness of treating things with ‘an abundance of caution’, and of how ‘a *real* society, unlike this whiggish parody, would be able to handle this serious disease properly’.

        • Kunning Drueger says:

          Zizek is a weird dude. If it ever came out that he lurks this blog, I’d not be too surprised. His speech impediment mixed with his Marxist cant create a slavish slurping under which thoughtcrime can cavort with common knowledge. He has a debate with Jordan “Sort oot yer lobsters” Peterson that’s pretty interesting. I’m not terribly impressed with Marxist academics, but he does seem to be less derivative than his peers.

  33. Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

    https://palladiummag.com/2018/10/11/the-lesson-that-america-did-not-learn-from-vietnam/

    Relevant to the earlier discussion of ‘modern warfare’. A perpetual state of ‘not-victory’ until eventual exhaustion is the inevitable result when the prospect of war is taken on by those whose weltanschauung is implicitly or explicitly prejudiced against the principles of Right Order in the first place. One hand tries to put out the fires in the building that the other hand sets alight for burning it down.

    • notglowing says:

      It seems clear to me that so long as the right wing in the US bases itself on the American founding myth, it can never be reactionary.
      If they think of themselves as a rebel colony to an empire, then destroying empires and kings and siding with rebels who want to fight order is part of their identity.

      These people got tricked by the communist traitors in their ranks to support regimes that destroyed possible allies, because they always saw these right wing, religious, monarchical groups as against their ethos, instead their conceit was to turn every shithole into some enlightened liberal democracy. No wonder they always ended up supporting communists.
      If that is your eschatology, you will make terrible friends.

      • Red says:

        > It seems clear to me that so long as the right wing in the US bases itself on the American founding myth, it can never be reactionary.

        Which founding myth? The one where the British tried to tax the US too hard and we beat the shit out of them over it? I like that myth, warns shitheads to keep taxes low which lead to a great deal of good before FDR. Every country has multiple founding myths and it quite easy to exchange a bad one for a good one.

        Our problem is a lack of a strong faith to fight against the woke faith.

        • Kunning Druegger says:

          The colonial rebels were communists that didn’t want to contribute to empire yet demanded the fruits thereof. They didn’t win a war, they were handed a victory by Whig parliamentarians and Generals. The foundational myth espoused by the Right is literally the rotten core from whence grows the cuckold position the outer party continues to inhabit. Every time a conservative praises the foundering fathers, criminals and scum to a man, the original Whig laughs and laughs and laughs.

          • Red says:

            No shit sherlock, that’s why we call it a myth. The actual truth is typical communist bullshit where the people who didn’t go along with the American traitors where tortured and burned alive by the so called patriots who stole their stuff.

            The fact remains that we need a state religion and a founding myth that works. Telling people that their forefathers were criminals scum means that they’re criminal scum too. That’s a non starter.

            Myths should be based on reality, but with a useful frame rather than the typical communist/Whig/Puritan one.

          • Frank Matters says:

            Besides the unitarianism, I have not found a good reason to dislike Jefferson

            Random selections:
            《 This unfortunate difference of color, and perhaps of faculty, is
            a powerful obstacle to the emancipation of these people. Many of
            their advocates, while they wish to vindicate the liberty of human
            nature, are anxious also to preserve its dignity and beauty. Some
            of these, embarrassed by the question; “What further is to be done
            with them? ” join themselves in opposition with those who are
            actuated by sordid avarice only. Among the Romans emancipation
            required but one effort. The slave, when made free, might mix
            with, without straining the blood of his master. But with us a
            second is necessary, unknown to history. When freed, he is to be
            removed beyond the reach of mixture》
            Notes on Virginia

            《I fear from an expression in your letter that the people of Kentucké think of separating, not only from Virginia (in which they are right,) but also from the confederacy. I own I should think this a most calamitous event, and such an one as every good citizen on both sides should set himself against. our present federal limits are not too large for good government, nor will the increase of votes in Congress produce any ill effect. on the contrary it will drown the little divisions at present existing there. our confederacy must be viewed as the nest from which all America, North & South is to be peopled. we should take care too not to think it for the interest of that great continent to press too soon on the Spaniards. those countries cannot be in better hands. my fear is that they are too feeble to hold it them till our population can be sufficiently advanced to gain it from them peice by peice. the navigation of the Missisipi we must have. this is all we are as yet ready to receive.》
            https://tjrs.monticello.org/letter/76

            • Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

              Woodrow Wilson was also a klansman; the structural imperatives of their belief systems inevitably overcame their unprincipled racialisms, in any case.

      • Pooch says:

        It seems clear to me that so long as the right wing in the US bases itself on the American founding myth, it can never be reactionary.

        It was clear to Caesar that he could not fight Pompey under the banner of the old Kings of Rome. He was to be the freely elected Consul being illegally prevented from entering the election by Pompey, the enemy of democracy.

        • jim says:

          Of course, by that time elections were farcical, so this was a distinction with small difference from becoming King, which difference became considerably slighter after the murder of Caesar, but for a very long time, the pretense was maintained, and everyone who knew what was good for them pretended to believe, that being the state religion.

          Back when the communist party of China had the most capitalist ideology and program in the entire world, it said that socialism is what the party says it is. Well, in America, the Republic will be what the officially official state Church says it is.

          But this entails ruling by official lies, which is poison, so pretty soon the official Church should stuff that behind the water heater in the basement, and then disown it. Having capitalism by lies in China is now coming back to bite them, and having Kingship by lies is going to bite us.

  34. Kunning Drueger says:

    Part IV of ToW piece on the Petrodollar:

    https://treeofwoe.substack.com/p/running-on-empty-part-iv

    • Pooch says:

      I saw that. Good piece but I think he’s jumping the gun on the end of the petrodollar. Russia has impressively got off the dollar system and looks to be coming out through the other side of it for the better.

      Far from certain that any other country could exit the petrodollar. India is sort of a bell-weather and is playing both sides.

      When we see small countries freely exiting the Petrodollar, it is necessarily the end of America and it will be serious prepping time.

      • Pooch says:

        When we see small countries freely exiting the Petrodollar without consequences*

  35. Cloudswrest says:

    This is great! Musk fired today a bunch of woke SpaceX employees who signed a public letter criticizing his politics, calling him an “embarrassment” to the company. LOL

    https://twitter.com/neontaster/status/1537788932259184640

    • Mister Grumpus says:

      And now the Labor Department sues him for Insufficient Leftism in the First Degree. Goddamn this is getting heavy.

      • Starman says:

        @Mister Grumpus

        ”And now the Labor Department sues him for Insufficient Leftism in the First Degree. Goddamn this is getting heavy.”

        They and what army?

        • Contaminated NEET says:

          The US Army, if it comes to it.

          • Starman says:

            @Contaminated NEET

            “The US Army, if it comes to it.”

            The US Army is getting its ass kicked.

            They won’t be in a position to do anything worthwhile after losing their military superiority.

            • jim says:

              They still have military superiority over a leaderless and unorganized mob.

              • Starman says:

                @jim

                “They still have military superiority over a leaderless and unorganized mob.”

                Nah. The US Army is going to have very little organization after it is shredded by the Russians and the Chinese (after losing military superiority). It will just be another unorganized mob. The ZOGbot families can be killed. With a little help from Russian leadership and internal marginal elites of course.

                I’m sure the Chinese will have leaders in their own factions in the broken US as well.

                You need to think outside the bubble of this blog. The Cathedral is not a hermetically sealed entity. Tanks are still useful. There are other powerful entities outside.

                You are still awesome on formulating the Reactionary Redpill on Women. Still potent to this very day.

                • Kunning Druegger says:

                  OK, honest question based in a hypothetical:

                  TX and OK make 2 announcements: they are formally withdrawing from the US based on a plebiscite they conducted and not the Constitution or Amendments or federal statute; they are declaring neutrality with the US, regulating all border traffic between the People’s Republic of Texlahoma and their 2 neighbors such that anyone can leave but no non-citizens can enter, with forceful entry being considered an act of criminality or war.

                  Texlahoma’s capital is San Antonio, their military is comprised of the TX and OK national guards as well as multiple regiments of militia. They have no Navy and their Airforce consists of guard unit assets and private craft. Let’s just assume most citizens are ecstatic and the ones that aren’t have left. We’ll also say that the Guard members are all loyal. They have Musk with them, but he was not involved so no secret missile defense systems or Combat Starships are immediately available. Texlahoma is recognized by Russia, India, and China, who all send peacekeepers that will arrive in 6 weeks.

                  Do the combined forces of Federal USA crush the neoConfederates, or are they stymied by the plucky Texlahomans until the RICs peacekeepers arrive?

                  Does FedUSA repel the RIC expeditionary force?

                  I think FedUSA would squash Texlahoma like a bug, but they’d do it with human wave assaults and massed artillery barrage, leaving them gutted and vulnerable to the RICs on land, but the Navy would force them to turn around.

                • jim says:

                  The US navy will be proven irrelevant if it gets into a great power war. Until then, we are screwed.

                • S says:

                  The US government uses nukes. The nukes work and the rebels die or don’t work and the new nation’s foreign allies announce they are under their nuclear protection.

                  A conventional war is impossible to predict as any states leaving is going to kick off a domino effect across the rest of the country.

                • Kunning Druegger says:

                  Irrelevant? In IEW between great powers?

                • jim says:

                  Battleships and aircraft carriers do not matter if you are facing a power with hypersonic drones.

                • Ghost says:

                  Both Texas and Oklahoma have Federal property including military bases. The Federal government would insist on having access to their property and resupplying it. A Ft. Sumter scenario would unfold. There would be confusion among the National Guard and reserves over who has command authority. The Fed would attempt to block interstate trade and conduct a propaganda campaign. Finally the Fed would provoke open hostility.

                • Kunning Drueger says:

                  Only if they are near the HM launchers. If you park the USN on the American coastlines, you’ve basically got an IEW compliant Great Wall. Imagine the evil President Kamala Harris could do behind such a monument to cowardice and the iron rule of bureaucracy. You wouldn’t even need sailors and officers, just technicians and contractors with project managers.

                • Mister Grumpus says:

                  It’s the false flag bait Sumterish possibilities that would screw it all up. Huge FedMil assets there. Surely including nukes.

                  Plus “social Sumters”. Cities and regions of negroes stuck behind and surrounded by bloodthirsty Mexican white supremacist ultra MAGA KKK Russian redneck radicals, who must never be allowed to flee to Connecticut in unmarked buses in the middle of the night. Oh and they have holy tranny mascots too, like six million of them, trapped behind enemy lines without antibiotics or tranny formula.

                  Any such scheme would need plans for these. Good plans, announced and executed instantly. It reminds me of how Ukraine and South Africa arranged right off the bat to give their nukes away. “OK guys come get your shit. Nobody’s touching nothing.”

                  Evacuation corridors for FedPets and FedStuff.

                  Jim pointed out earlier how Hitler blew it when he went from “Jews out” to “Jews out, but make them leave their shit at the border, no refunds.”

                  Crypto-protected real time HD livestreams of nobody touching nothing on StarlinkTube.

                • Mister Grumpus says:

                  In brief, opportunities for “Why Would XXXX Do This?” shenanigans appear to be impossible to defend against.

                  All they have to do is shell a FedPet neighborhood, say that the MAGA Texans did it, and rush in with cameras to harvest them for sob stories.

                  There’s no defense against it, besides what the Russians are doing, which is to just militarily stomp the other side to death anyway. But sympathy? Debunking? Their fair day in court? Forget it. No Nuremberg Trial before absolute victory.

                • Kunning Drueger says:

                  Good points MG. Pre-Special Operation Druegger, the hidebound pussy, would encourage making a good faith attempt at doing the Right Thing for the right wing, but Russia’s methodology at the outset and its abject failure has put paid to that. If you’re going to go, you have to Go. No hesitation or prevarication. GNON demands that the nettle be grasped.

                • Wulfgar Thundercock III says:

                  Texas, 2024 (colorized)

                  https://youtu.be/rNAnplKWNrc

                • Mister Grumpus says:

                  So the Special Military Operation in Ukraine is really just a shit test pass. That’s what it is. The most bloody and devastating shit test pass of the 21st century. So far. If they can pull it off.

                  Is this really the only way to beat the lie machine? To just smash all its limbs with a huge hammer and leave it exactly in place, still lying like before, but now humiliated and helpless on the plane of raw power?

                  Bashar Assad’s holding on in Syria was a very respectable showing, mind you, but it was nothing like this.

                  The most mind blowing lies and multi-dimensional verbal attacks against them, at “11” volume, 24-7, for years straight, worldwide, and they’re just not stopping. Fuck it.
                  No Gentle Art of Verbal Self Defense. No footnotes. No smartly dressed and professionally lit “debates” on The Daily Wire. They’re just raping the bitch, as long as it takes, straight through to the other side, while the whole world watches. Not even “gangster”, this is “caveman” stuff.

                  This really is it. Talk about “Rubicons” again. Go ahead. Can you see the difference?

                  Trump opened a portal too, and appetizingly invited us to follow him through it, “it’ll be great,” but Putin’s dragging us through his on a chain behind a fucking tractor.

                • Neurotoxin says:

                  Grumpus: “This really is it. Talk about ‘Rubicons’ again.”

                  That’s it. The US axis’s mistake in Ukraine was putting Russia in a situation in which it was fight or die. So Russia said, “We’ve got nothing to lose; we have to cross the Rubicon.”

                  In retrospect 10 years from now, if the GAE faction is still around and still has two brain cells to rub together, they’ll be asking each other, “Remind me, why did we think that putting Russia in that position was a good idea?”

              • Wulfgar Thundercock III says:

                That assumes that the mob stays leaderless and unorganized. War is great for sorting and teaching. Someone might make a call to the Russians and request some based priests to set up an American Orthodox Church and bring some guns. I could see the Russians and Chinese sending materiel to Americans to keep Globohomo out of the rest of the world’s affairs.

                • jim says:

                  This would require them to exercise more memetic sovereignty than I have been seeing.

                  Russia has been decisively moving in the direction of intellectual sovereignty, but China his heading back to Maoism, which is merely a heresy from nineteenth century leftism.

                  If someone in China has the balls to redefine communism as Han confucianism modified by Hong Kong manchesterism (old type corporate capitalism) then they would likely see us as allies. Right now, if aware of our existence, which I suspect that they are, find us horrifying.

                  They have been complaining vehemently about Globohomo’s persistent violation of the peace of Westphalia. Possibly that might well be enough to bring them over onto our side, even though they are likely to find us horrifying. But right now we are not the horse that they are backing. They are backing the corrupt kleptocrats, who are likely to lose power. When the kleptocrats lose power to the true believers, they may change their minds.

                • Wulfgar Thundercock III says:

                  I am making the assumption that the radicals are going to take over, because the near left is still looking to the far left for their moral cues. No enemies to the left is going to lead to white leftist autogenocide soon enough. If the Russians and the Chinese want to keep the far left occupied in stomping out a revolution, they could send theoretical American Restorers military equipment and training the same way Globohomo does in Ukraine and Syria. They do not need to get too involved, just enough to whittle down Globohomo military assets and confine them to CONUS.

                • Kunning Druegger says:

                  Wait, why horrifying?

                • jim says:

                  Because of their roots in English nineteenth century leftism. We want to restore the social technology of 1660, plus a hearty helping of the social technology of the bronze age.

                • Kunning Druegger says:

                  Based on population size alone, and considering the long history of Ancient China, is it reasonable to assume that there is a “Reactionary… with Chinese Characteristics” faction in the party? I am not well versed on the Chinese Society, so aplogies if this is a pointless question, but is the CCP == Chinese Elite, or are there Elites outside the party?

                • jim says:

                  The reactionary faction in our elites keeps it deep underground, and if there is a similar Chinese faction, it would be hard to tell.

    • Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

      They are genuinely shocked to find [status claim] result in devalidation in this manner. Is this not in total accord with [state religion]? Does [target out-caste] not realize that he is dealing with his social betters? Why is he not groveling? Why isn’t everyone groveling? Incomprehensible.

      • Cloudswrest says:

        Remember when the CEO of Coinbased (sic) outlawed public wokism at the company and told employees who were unhappy with the decision they were free to leave (with a severance package).

      • Cloudswrest says:

        Quick web search on the Coinbase issue. Seems some employees are still at it! Albeit anonymously now.

        https://fortune.com/2022/06/10/coinbase-ceo-brian-armstrong-employee-petition-remote-work

      • Starman says:

        @Pseudo-Chrysostome

        ”They are genuinely shocked to find [status claim] result in devalidation in this manner. Is this not in total accord with [state religion]? Does [target out-caste] not realize that he is dealing with his social betters? Why is he not groveling? Why isn’t everyone groveling? Incomprehensible.”

        The Holy StarProphet (Peace Be Upon Him) does not grovel to those who commit apostasy against Holy Ad Astra.

        From the apostate’s letter:

        ”We care deeply about SpaceX’s mission to make humanity multiplanetary. But more importantly, we care about each other.

        It is heresy to proclaim that there is anything more important than making humanity multiplanetary, amen.

    • Red says:

      This was a play designed to push back against Musk’s talk on free speech. The Holy Star Prophet memes on free speech are effective so they jin this up to call him a hypocrite.

  36. Frank Matters says:

    Anyone have an idea just how leveraged the real estate market really is? https://twitter.com/WallStreetSilv/status/1537495219821748227

    Cannot imagine these goofballs survive too many bps. Then again, they might luck out bigly if there is no pre-even-higher-inflation market crash.

    • Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

      Insanely overleveraged; and also confident they will be bailed out at cuckpayer expense in the case of any bumps in the road.

      Just like every other sector of finance in the GAE.

    • jim says:

      Not overleveraged at all, because by and by, the mortgagee will be happy to accept a dozen eggs in lieu of the mortgage from the mortgagor.

      People who have the connections to borrow money from the fed are splurging on real estate, because they figure inflation is vastly understated, and is going to get a lot more vastly understated.

      • Frank Matters says:

        This is assuming no major hiccups on the road from inflation-is-managable to wage-goods-price-spiral. Renters cannot pay rent, or just do not exist, lower level speculators go bankrupt, debt flows up, then the printers must resume. I would call that overleveraged. Something something market stays insane longer than you can say solvent, we have major interruption in business operations all over the globe, prices are at a high variance and liable to fuck people who over levered. Crypto market has been a spiral of liquidations for some time now, each major deflation event triggering the next in a chain.

        Just because the money printer is going full speed ahead doesn’t mean the bubble is stable.

        • Pooch says:

          Renters cannot pay rent, or just do not exist, lower level speculators go bankrupt, debt flows up, then the printers must resume.

          Loss with reality. Renters don’t exist? We are a renter’s nation. The middle class is being rapidly priced out of home ownership.

          Being overleveraged in real estate on cheap loans is exactly where you want to be right now assuming you aren’t buying in a future niggerhood (the largest risk by far), aren’t using an adjustable rate loan, and aren’t buying in a place where the local government will cap your rental rates.

          • Frank Matters says:

            Rental units are not fungible. You could buy a bunch of units in an area full of diversity or soon to be hollowed out by everyone fleeing the worst urban areas, or with no one that can afford the rates you would have to charge to profit. Good taste in properties does fix this, does not help if you chain your mortgages and suddenly the bubble pops and you get margin called.

            I have no opinion on whether smartly done real estate is a good investment avenue at the moment, but high leverage investing during massive price volatility pervasive throughout the world economy seems like a bad idea. Good time to go a bit risk off.

            • Pooch says:

              Smart capital does not invest in niggerhoods or soon to be niggerhoods. Smart capital invests in white zip codes and there will always be high demand for housing in white zip codes as long as they stay white.

              If you have white renters paying rent on your rental properties in white areas that cover your cheap low rate mortgage, you don’t care if the market crashes because it will come back up. Property in white areas are a commodity and of limited supply just like oil is a commodity and of limited supply.

              • Kunning Druegger says:

                If Druegger’s Human Wave Theory comes to pass, it is going to be very hard to predict where is going to be a niggerhood (top notch bantz well done) and to what degree and for how long. The negros are for the most part sedentary, as the complicated activity of driving long distances frightens them, and walking is not as fun as shucking, jiving, or aggravated assault. Nevertheless, northern urbs didn’t shit the bed themselves, so we know they can and will move, particularly if huwite wymynz start ring the gibbs bell. So it isn’t enough to just target white, wealthy people, as they are well known for putting up “Hate has no home here” and “BLM” signs quite recklessly. Of course, they don’t mean it, and would be horrified if Sha’ kwon and Sh’ boonia acme calling, but they may not realize it in time.

                • Pooch says:

                  With infinite immigration in finite time, every neighborhood will become a niggerhood or at least a spichood or a caliphatehood, thus the donut theory of civilizational collapse.

                  But it is a slow process. 90% percent white areas do not become 90% non-white over night. Takes a generation or two.

                • Aidan says:

                  Niggers frequently do drive long distances, but they drive from niggerhood to niggerhood; a small implantation of diversity in an area ensures that cousins and friends will drive their rusted-out 1996 toyota corollas hundreds of miles to sell drugs, guns, and commit petty crime in the neighborhood. Without local blacks as a port of entry however, they won’t even drive five miles to a white area.

            • Pooch says:

              or with no one that can afford the rates you would have to charge to profit

              Nonsense. When people can no longer afford their houses or rents, they downsize and get room mates. Good landlords check credit and salary for their tenants. They aren’t letting street niggers and drug addicts rent their properties.

              • Mr.P says:

                “Good landlords check credit and salary for their tenants.”

                What you are overlooking is checking credit scores and rental history are now rayciss crimes punishable with steep fines (in the “too white” city in which I formerly owned rental property).

                • Pooch says:

                  What city? I know a lot of people with rental property. I have never heard of any city disallowing the use of credit scores for application process of rental properties.

                  If so, you are stupid for buying and renting property there.

                • Mr.P says:

                  “stupid”

                  What you are overlooking is once a city council is taken over by SJWs, it can and will change the rental “rules” overnight. If you already own property in that city, as I did for decades, you’re screwed. Which is why I got the hell out.

                  Yes, of course, a property owner can still legally check credit scores and rental history — but try rejecting the application of a “disadvantaged” diversity candidate for bad credit or non-payment history, and the rental code enforcers will come down on you like a ton of bricks. Which is why I got the hell out.

                • Pooch says:

                  What you are overlooking is once a city council is taken over by SJWs, it can and will change the rental “rules” overnight.

                  Yes, important to pay attention to this type of thing. I would not buy in any deep blue region for this very reason. You are likely to see rental caps there too. Ideally, you want to buying in class A areas where the niggers are priced out anyways so the credit check thing won’t even be an issue.

                  Broadly speaking, the smart money is investing in red and purple states and fleeing deep blue states like California (although a youtube investor I like meet Kevin does invests in California I believe).

                • Mr.P says:

                  “… important to pay attention to this type of thing. I would not buy in any deep blue region for this very reason.”

                  Yes. The rental property owners I know back in said city refuse to buy any property within the city limits. Suburbs and exurbs only, must be governmentally independent of marxist SJWs ruling the main metro.

                  This is referred to I believe as the “Doughnut hole of civilizational collapse.”

                • jim says:

                  > the “Doughnut hole of civilizational collapse.”

                  The doughnut gets eaten from the inside.

                • Pooch says:

                  If you already own property in that city, as I did for decades, you’re screwed. Which is why I got the hell out.

                  I wouldn’t say you’re screwed. Decades is a long time to hold real estate. If you see things starting to trend for the worse demographically and/or politically, sell it, scoop the cash, and allocate the capital elsewhere.

                  There may be a point where there will be no where else to allocate the capital because it will all look like South Africa and then yes we’ll be screwed, but not there yet.

                • Mr.P says:

                  “I wouldn’t say you’re screwed.”

                  I did very well and believe I got out at the right time.

                  – The first ten years I rented to primarily young marrieds saving up for a down payment.

                  – Back then, very little turnover. Couples would stay for three or four years — and plant a garden!

                  – Then adjustable rate mortgages were introduced and the RE bubble started to inflate.

                  – After down payments could be financed and fogging a mirror was the only requirement to get a mortgage, quality of tenants nosedived. Seriously, I cannot remember the last time a tenant didn’t take off with unpaid rent and utilities. Also, turnover was nearly always every year, which is very expensive.

                  Currently I live with my wife in an apartment. I chat often with the apartment complex manager. What an awful job she has! She says 75% of her time is devoted to documenting cause for tenant evictions.

      • Kunning Drueger says:

        Isn’t that assuming either will have eggs to work with? Consider the general distribution density of Americans as a whole. How does local government respond to your white 26-32s just packing up and starting to walk? Imagine a blight of millennials sweeping the coasts, beg-murdering in every town they touch.

        I was thinking about this the other day: America hasn’t had an Internally Displaced Persons crisis since the 1930s. In a lot of crisis response literature, IDPs are considered to be one of the biggest factors to deal with in any kind of operations. You can get a taste of this at a significant music festival that includes camping. So long as water, noises, food and talking are free and easy, it’s a big party. It takes a few hours before the waves of freaked out people start building up. The debauchery and barbarity are significant, even when everyone knows they are only an hour walk away from their cars and “freedom.” Imagining the party atmosphere get subsumed by terror and rage is a bit chilling. I honestly don’t know which is least desirable: having to get through or out of a refugee wave, or sitting and waiting for one that is coming at you.

        Maybe this is extreme or unlikely, but I just don’t see our Elites and government being able to competently engage in recovery efforts.

        • jim says:

          > Isn’t that assuming either will have eggs to work with?

          Quite lot of truly rich are making preparation for the Zombie apocalypse, at least around here which is as far as you can get from the centers of power without treading water, so the rich here may be atypical. Perhaps they are planning to raise chickens.

          • Kunning Druegger says:

            And perhaps they will ritually slaughter them chickens when Mother Government demands it, as many farms are doing now. But, your point is well made.

      • The Cominator says:

        This is why loans for real estate EXCEPT for construction need to be banned…

      • Mr.P says:

        Don’t forget about embedded “carry costs”: property taxes, hazard insurance, utilities, lawn care, pest control, snow removal, repairs, legal fees to evict nonpayers and destroyers, this b.s. fee that b.s. fee — all must be paid promptly out of collected rent, otherwise (been there, done it) feels like head is submerged in a toilet bowl getting cash-flow flushed down the drain.

        I got out because commie city council said you will rent to diversity even if it can’t pay, and when it doesn’t pay, tough titties, rayciss.

        • jim says:

          Obviously you should only invest in properties that are located amongst a high level of homeowners, and attempt to detect vigorous race mixing policies by the authorities.

          And since there is a high likelihood of a general or selective collapse in property rights enforcement (I am preparing to get less long in land, although as yet property rights remain secure outside business districts) you invest in places that have a decent social net, that can cause problem people to disappear.

      • Pooch says:

        People who have the connections to borrow money from the fed are splurging on real estate, because they figure inflation is vastly understated, and is going to get a lot more vastly understated.

        Not anymore. The free money period is over. That was the case the last 2 years. The smart money is now sitting on the sidelines waiting to scoop up assets at a major discount after the crash. The bubble popping time soon approaches.

      • Mister Grumpus says:

        The mortgagee will also need the proper connections to keep the authorities from dumping addicts, Afghanis and negroes into his neighborhood. They may even open up bus lines just for that purpose. Reparations Express. Delivery at 7pm and pickup at midnight.

        So this is getting trickier. A simple credit rating and dartboard won’t cut it anymore.

    • Pooch says:

      They are fine as long a they don’t have adjustable rate mortgages or are renting out in jurisdictions that are likely to enforce rental caps.

      • Ghost says:

        It may go like ’08. After housing collapsed, real estate was cheap even in California. Be ready to swoop after the storm.

        • Pooch says:

          Yes. Not the time to buy right now. The smart players are holding cash on the sideline waiting for the fire sale.

  37. Adam says:

    So as far as becoming alpha, and executing your game and your mission…

    I am big on the power of belief and faith. I was always very cynical and thought that stuff was gay and dorky. And eventually after listening a lot to Jordan Peterson and internalizing the red pill I started to make more sense of the world and changed my attitude about belief.

    The key is, genes are expressed given environmental stimulus (if I understand that correctly). A lot (most?) are not expressed at any given time.

    So if you feed yourself white and blue pills, your a christcuck. Blue and black your a leftist. Red and black your a madman.

    What I do, personally to make the most of my life is give myself a steady supply of white and red. Red to stay true, white to stay healthy, stay positive and keep from demoralization and defeat.

    What you tell yourself, what is in your head, will determine a lot about what genes you express. If you hate people and hate women, your going to act like that. If you can see people for what they are, and accept that they are up against the same things you are up against, you can see some good in them.

    If you want a good wife to serve you and obedient kids some day, red and white pills only.

    • jim says:

      > I am big on the power of belief and faith.

      Roissy, minion of Satan, who, unlike his master, speaks the truth, correctly observed that irrational optimism will get you further than rational pessimism.

      Some faiths, however, can work more impressive miracles than others.

    • Kunning Druegger says:

      > Red and black [you’re] a madman

      I don’t know why you think it’s ok to just personally attack me like that.

      • jim says:

        If black pilled and red pilled, you have a problem.

        • Kunning Drueger says:

          I’m aware of the problem, but I’m not quite sure how to go about fixing it.

          • Pooch says:

            For me ending the black pill, it was halting this thinking that I wa somehow important to the grand scale of history when in reality I’m not important, you’re not important on the grand arc of history.

            We are just pawns in a larger game and, like medieval peasants, we have some flexibility in terms of who is our lord. We have some flexibility in terms of our career, our job, and where we live. If you want to go into the military, USG is your lord. If you work in a corporation, that corporation in a sense you have fealty to it. You have obligations and duties to it and if you don’t fulfill them you get fired.

            In medieval times, if you disobey the lord you just get executed. We have a different mechanism of social control now which is decentralized through the currency rather than through systems of pure physical punishment. In the past, they used physical humiliation, now they use doxing and shaming and so forth.

            You can choose who do you want your lords to be, just as in the olden days. There were major lords and minor lords and just as you owed fealty to your local lord you also owed some fealty to the emperor or the king. There are multiple overlapping concentric circles of authority that you owe fealty to. That was true a thousand years ago, it was true five thousand years ago, it was true ten thousand years ago, it’s true today. It will be true tomorrow. It will be true as long as human beings exist.

            Unless you want some pure utopia, and that’s what most people on the want at the end of the day. It’s biased shallow superficial thinking because they want to feel important and I understand that I want to feel important. I don’t like to hear this as much as you, but it’s true and so electing Trump or DeSantis in 2024 is not going to change the underlying fundamental economic, religious, philosophical, and technological incentives that make up our society. So rather than trying to change all of that, I think you have to humble yourself and you also have to understand that at the top of all these concentric circles of authority is God.

            • Adam says:

              Once you accept that you are not special, you are free to become exceptional.

            • Ghost says:

              As a man, your primary job is head of family. You acquire a wife any way you can. If you live a righteous life, whatever faults you have, God will help carry.

            • jim says:

              I don’t think that is the problem: That is wise advice for curing depression, but it is not actually effective against the black pill, which is not quite the same thing.

              Depression is a response to perceived inability to perform a high status role, and can be corrected by successfully performing a lower status role and getting appreciated for it, or, better, successfully performing the role you damned well should be performing.

              But you may well genuinely have difficulty achieving the better solution, in which case there is a third solution. Make active preparation and organization for a retreat and flight to a lower status role, prep for bugout. You will then find poor performance or likely impending disaster in your high status role less stressful.

              But it is not really relevant to the black pill, for which the cure is faith. Remember the wise advice of Roissy, minion of Satan: Irrational optimism beats rational pessimism. The remedy for the black pill is pretty much the opposite of the solution for depression, which is to retreat, or make preparation for retreat. The remedy for the black pill is righteously going forth with God behind you.

          • Frank Matters says:

            Knock and the door will open. Genuine inquiry leads to discovery. Acceptance and following action leads to transformation.

          • Adam says:

            Red, blue, black etc., think of it as a kind of spirituality. Jim has referred to it as morality, and maybe it is that too, but for me it’s more about feelings, motivations and actions. Essentially it is your energy, your life force and what that produces.

            So you have your one life to live. I don’t think about the afterlife other than what life exists after me. So I have my one life and I want to make the most out of it. So I have to get my motivation to move forward and keep it. That’s the white pill. The black pill leads to victimhood and death. The red pill is obvious, need to see reality for what it is, not what I wish it was.

            So if your going to make the most of your one life, because anything else would just be a waste, you need to be alpha as far as men judge and as far as women judge. Red and white is really your only option. It will bring the best out of you, congruent with creation and your telos.

            Defeated, demoralized people do not create much or any good. No motivation, no energy. So no black pill. It’s not like you have to create perfect, just make the most of what’s around you, and your capabilities and you will live a life you can be at peace with.

            I’ve doubled my income since Covid started, roughly. Everyone flipped out and closed their shops and took weeks off and just generally acted like losers when the masks and things started. I didn’t change one thing about my life. I wasn’t going to accept defeat. I’ve been defeated before, many times, and it was mostly all in my head. So the irrational optimism paid off.

            To overcome the black pill you have to become your own biggest fan, your own cheerleader. Even if it doesn’t seem like your getting anywhere, staying put when everyone else runs is a victory. And yeah it’s hard. It can be really hard. But not that much harder than staying defeated and demoralized.

  38. Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

    Headline: “Newest omegatron coof variant causes infection without natural immunity*, better vax up goys!
    “*based on Imperial College London study of triple shotted healthcare workers.”

    Looks like the real story is clotmaxxers are mutant cripples with Acquired Auto-Immune Deficiency Syndrome.

    • The Cominator says:

      Why is Niall Ferguson still alive?

      • Kunning Druegger says:

        I think he gets the Kissinger Exemption.

        • The Cominator says:

          Kissinger is notable for being exempt for preaching sanity, Ferguson’s role is to produce insane fantastic computer models to justify insane evil.

          When I say why is he still alive… I’m wondering why some random hasn’t sent him to the hell where he belongs.

          • Kunning Drueger says:

            Disagree. I’m not saying he’s /our guy/, but he’s probably an Elite that would comfortably and capably cross over and be productive in a neoMonarchical Occident.

          • Karl says:

            Nah, Ferguson’s role is to produce insane fantastic acamdemic publications. Nobody cares about his computer models.

            Why are you wondering whether he is still alive? Are there any academics adhering to the state religion that died recently of non-natural causes? I’m not aware of any.

            At present, demon worshippers are at risk only from their demons.

      • Globalist Power Terminated 2 says:

        And because he married that whore Ayaan Hirsi Ali. 😐

  39. The Ducking Man says:

    People have been discussing women’s romance very extensively, but nobody seems to bother discussing men’s romance.

    What kind of women that men desire?

    Of course it can be easily said “as long as she is thin, beautiful, young, and mentally sane with good manner” the woman is top of the mark. But my experience hits a bit different.

    The first woman I ever proposed maybe 6/10 of attractiveness scale. But her brilliance and personality has become light that shone my soul (which was really dark at that time). I was feeling genuine companionship which is very unique. Too bad our faith differ too greatly.

    While my wife fits objective measure of being good woman (attractive with good manner), deep down I’m feeling spiritual loneliness.

    Even today I never find women like my first love. I feel regret that does not go away.

    Perhaps to better understand women we also need to examine inward. Or maybe women and men’s experience ain’t that different after all or merely 2 side of same coin.

    • someDude says:

      No one cares about men. We deal with it.

      • Pax Imperialis says:

        That’s the saying of a modern man who has never experienced fraternity, but it says more about western society than about you. Close sense of brotherhood was the historical norm. Brothers looked out for each other and pushed each other. Men cared about men. Who do you think gave marriage consoling before HR types twisted it into an industry?

        Fraternity in the west was undermined by acceptance of homosexuality. The military resisted that far longer, but it too was forced to accept and even promote the gays. The idea that no on cares about men, and that we must deal with it on our own, is almost purely a byproduct of modernity and gay acceptance.

        • someDude says:

          Maybe I should re-phrase. No one care about an individual man. No one cares about unorganized men. That’s why we organize. Then people take note of us and take care not to cross us lightly.

          This is not just the state of the west. It is the state of every country under the US cultural Hegemony, India included.

    • Pax Imperialis says:

      Take what I say with a grain of salt. I’ve never been married. I have accrued some wisdom from others though.

      Some of the most loving marriages came from arranged/shotgun marriages where both parties knew each for less than a week prior.

      Overcoming shared struggles creates trust and shared narrative. That leads to genuine companionship and love.

      That is hard in the modern world where you’re not facing starvation, war, extreme poverty, etc. Surviving such things as partners forms deep trust.

      What can be done today is creating many children and sharing the burdens. The financial cost of many children and/or investing highly in their development can act as a proxy to poverty.

      Of course that may not fully recreate a shared sense of hardship, but at the very least she’ll likely be too busy to even think about adultery. Also try to get the wife to home school.

      • The Ducking Man says:

        If there is one thing I learned from past year is that people seemingly happy does not automatically mean being happy.

        I can say this because I’ve known happy couple busy doing their own thing as soon as they have free time, husband and wife rationalizing workhouse load. Marriage is transactional and that’s the truth that lots of people carry into their marriage.

        But my experience with my first love transcend this truth that the thought of asking something in return never blip my mind.

        Again, I say that men and women ain’t that different, merely 2 sides of same coin.

        If I heard women leaving their good husband for bum ex-bf, I wholeheartedly understand those women (tho I don’t approve those behavior).

        • ExileStyle says:

          But my experience with my first love transcend this truth that the thought of asking something in return never blip my mind.

          Again, I say that men and women ain’t that different, merely 2 sides of same coin.

          If I heard women leaving their good husband for bum ex-bf, I wholeheartedly understand those women (tho I don’t approve those behavior).

          Well, that’s completely insane. Why are you even here if you believe that?

          Men and women are as different as protons and electrons, positive and negative, zero and one, good and evil, light and darkness, sun and moon.

          That woman doesn’t love you as you love her, I guarantee it. Will not and cannot. Only men can experience romantic love and loyalty.

          And why “wholeheartedly” understand? Do you have no dignity? Or at least respect for other men? I can “understand” it in the same sense I understand a crocodile eating its own offspring – with distasteful acceptance of some strange force of nature, not “wholehearted” understanding.

          • Adam says:

            I agree. We are a means to an end for women, and that end is feels. No matter how you look at it, status, provision, protection etc. are all feels that a woman may need in the moment. Whatever feels she cannot get from you, she will look for elsewhere.

            Romantic love, chivalry etc. must die a brutal death.

          • jim says:

            You should not believe that women are bad for not being like men. Women are good.

            Women are good for being like a woman, and men are good for being like mam.

            If you look for a woman who is like a man, because you think that is a good woman, you will be disappointed and become black pilled.

            And women are not looking just for good feels. They will make greater sacrifices for their husband and their children.

            • ExileStyle says:

              Who said anything about women’s goodness or badness, or looking for a woman like a man? I said they are different, to deny which is also insane, and very peculiar considering the existence of your blog. I also do not think crocodiles are “bad” for being crocodiles, or men “good” for feeling romantic love.

              Why would you call women good? Women aren’t good; neither are men.

              I remember someone saying something along the lines of “Why do you call me good? No one is good but God alone.” (Mk. 10:18)

              I also remember someone listening quite eagerly to the advice of a certain Serpent in a certain Garden.

              Women can love, but their love is different, and disappears at a mere whisper.

              • jim says:

                > Why would you call women good? Women aren’t good; neither are men.

                Good men are manly, and good women are womanly.

            • Adam says:

              I agree they will make great sacrifices for their husband and children. Total agreement. They often have a high tolerance for negative energy.

              What they find the most difficult, is boredom and apathy. Love and hate are not opposites. Love and hate are both intense emotional investments. The opposite of love and hate is apathy.

              Follow the strong feelings, good or bad, and female behavior makes more sense. Not just from their pussy. Also the caring nurturing feelings.

              They don’t run logically or rationally, they run emotionally. That is the essence of a woman. If you want women to change their behavior, change how they feel. Change the emotional stimulus.

              • jim says:

                Yes, but you should not describe the differences between men and women in ways that imply that women are wicked. That is the black pill speaking, which is a result of hanging onto blue pill morality while acknowledging red pill reality.

                White pill moral reality is that men and women are very different, and different conduct and different rules are appropriate. A virtuous man is manly, a virtuous women is womanly. Each is virtuous in the way appropriate to their sex, which is a different kind of virtue to that of the other sex.

                The womanly virtues are not necessarily virtues in a man, and are rather close to defects and moral failures in a man, and the manly virtues not necessarily virtues in a woman.

                Saint Paul, after listing the differences, tells us that notwithstanding, women shall be saved in childbirth. In context, childbirth is a synecdoche for proper performance of the proper female role, of which childbearing is the most difficult, dangerous, and stereotypical part, that she shall be saved by accepting and enduring the curse laid upon Eve, which was both the pain of childbirth, and the desire to submit to and obey her husband.

                • Anonymous says:

                  That is the black pill speaking, which is a result of hanging onto blue pill morality while acknowledging red pill reality.

                  I greatly appreciate you boiling it down so simply. When I am able to name it, I am able to fight it.

                • Anon says:

                  “you should not describe the differences between men and women in ways that imply that women are wicked. That is the black pill speaking, which is a result of hanging onto blue pill morality while acknowledging red pill reality.”
                  Disagree
                  Women ARE wicked ex “shit testing” left alone will destroy the house, the children and herself.
                  The black pill is giving up and kill yourself with sex and drugs.
                  white pill is when a man become virtous he will control the woman and she will appear as if “virtous woman”
                  but there is no “virtous woman” ever.
                  women never stop shit testing never stop proding for weakness in a man to destroy him, the house the children and herself.

                • jim says:

                  > Women ARE wicked ex “shit testing” left alone will destroy the house

                  Just don’t fail shit tests. Which of course is hard when women have been granted social superweapons.

                  Women reproduce most successfully as property, men least successfully as property. Woman are looking for a man strong enough to own them. Understand this, and though shit tests are stressful and unpleasant, once you pass them, you will see goodness in women.

                  Leading with a neg is pre-emptively passing a shit test that she did not necessarily intend to give.

                  Shit tests will be a far less grievous sin when women are deprived of social superweapons.

          • Kunning Drueger says:

            Gotta disagree on 2 counts, bro. Women are obviously different from men, but 2 sides of same coin actually works well in a lot of levels: the coin only has two sides, the sides can never align the same way, always polarity issues, etc

            Women can be loyal, just as men can be kind. Woman can be brutal, just as men can be tender. It’s not a natural tendency of either, but can be immensely powerful when deployed adeptly. This doesn’t mean brutal women or tender men should be encouraged or praised.

            Also, DuckingMan is a weird bird. He gets a Far East exemption on certain things. He maintains positions that would be unacceptable from anyone here on Team Howlie. I can’t explain it, but it’s happened before where DM says something bonkers, and defensive countermeasures start lighting up, but nope, not a threat, just another wacky Chinamen. Honestly, it’s actually amazing to see some of the theories of heterogeneous societal evolution play out in real life. We’re not all the same thing in different clothes, we’re fundamentally different creatures with similar biological geometry. We can interbreed with Chang’s daughters, but separate us between planets and we’ll specieate in dramatic fashion.

            • ExileStyle says:

              Never thought I’d have to push back on this point on Jim’s blog of all places, but it seems I am a bit more metaphysically misogynistic than some here. Two things in Ducking Man’s post, one intellectual, one personal.

              The personal: to “wholeheartedly understand” adultery is to be a traitor to one’s fellow men, and such men created romanticism, created feminism, created George IV and his whore wife, and the end of monarchy, created most of our problems. I have no respect for and do not trust such a “man.” I thought a main goal of the society envisioned here rejected such betrayal of one’s fellows.

              The intellectual: there is a reason mythologies almost universally attest to a masculine Sun and a feminine Moon, and the Bible to Adam as Image of God and Eve as the rib – a subordinate derivative – of Adam. That reason being the plain-as-day fact that women are fundamentally other than and, in matters of spirit and intellect, i.e. soul, i.e. being human, less than man. This opinion was not controversial two hundred years ago and before.

              I love my wife and she is a brilliant conversationalist and kind and caring etc. but there are so often moments with her, as there have been with every single woman I have ever had to do with, where I forget what she is and am baffled by some unbridgeable gap between us and have to question whether she is of the same order of being as myself.

              Then I remember that she, like the moon to the sun, is meant to define herself by and through me – a duty I did not ask for and which is often tiresome – and that if I should ever neglect that duty she would find someone else post-haste to fill that function for her.

              We are not a coin with two sides, i.e. essentially the same but with different manifestations, but two very different things which are bound to and defined by each other but which shall ever remain – tragically, I admit – in completely separate spheres.

              • Kunning Drueger says:

                Accidentally deleted a much longer comment. You’re right, my model is off. The coin analogy worked for me because of internalized blue pill assumptions hiding under my red pill framework. This actually tracks with issues I’m encountering in my own life.

                And you’re also right to interpret DM’s reckless faggotry about women who cheat. I guess I just don’t take him very seriously on personal topics after the religious spat awhile back.

                The WQ really is the only thing that matters, not because it’s the only thing out there, but because if you get it wrong, everything else is tainted. Someone else here wrote: “Marriage is civilization, and civilization is failing.” That slammed home for me. What are your thoughts on the assertion?

                • ExileStyle says:

                  I’d agree that marriage is the basis of any strong, virtuous culture, whether a civilized one with cities and scribes or a nomadic barbarian tribe – so in spirit, yes, but without overvaluing the “civilization” part. Paris has long been very, very civilized and very, very spiritually bankrupt. But I have a soft spot for barbarian hordes.

                  If, as seems more possible with time, we see some kind of post-collapse period of newly-formed nomadic tribes swooping up and down and across steppes and prairies, it will be the tribes with strong, virtuous marriages (so: our tribe) that will be best positioned to one day settle and start the next civilizations. It’s just good social technology, if nothing else for keeping men from fighting each other over women and staying focused on real enemies.

                • Kunning Drueger says:

                  At the risk of sounding gay or cliche, marriage is good for men but better for women. It gives them the opportunity to live in GNON aligned harmony, forestalls and obliterates (eventually, mostly) the demonic slut impulse, and gives them a path towards creating beautiful, massive families. I don’t expect many here to have shared this experience, but I’ve met a couple of undeniably based Grandmas, women far past the impetuosity and flightiness of youth. Beautiful and emotional in their season, they act as matriarchs in the place of dead husbands, declining to remarry and instead carrying on the legacy of the men that made them what they were supposed to be. This is not common, I don’t think. Not only does the Cathedral work to snuff out good women, but even in a just and healthy society based women would be a rarity. Some mysterious combination of spirit, genetics, and faith, I’d imagine. Each of them had a ton of kids, lived in the country, and married as teenagers.

                • jim says:

                  > “Marriage is civilization, and civilization is failing.” That slammed home for me. What are your thoughts on the assertion?

                  Obviously. If men do not get pussy and sex on the prosocial path, do not get an obedient and faithful wife as soon as they can afford one, everything is going to hell in a handbasket.

                  Everyone is too fat. No one cares about redistribution of bread, still less about redistribution of ownership of the means of production. Every man cares about pussy.

                  We want every industrious moderately competent male, who works or fights for his society and social order, to have a direct and easy path to acquiring an obedient virgin wife.

                  This requires a fair bit of tolerance, and a considerable lethargy in investigating, when someone who works hard and plays by the rules, knocks off someone who does not, and also requires us to come down hard on female sexual choice.

                • The Cominator says:

                  Yeah i think that was probably a factor… he wouldn’t take her calls. She got pissed…

                  But it can happen if you act wrong with a lot of girls… and one who flirts with everyone then starts larping as a dyke suddenly and then starts accusing people of shit…

                  Sounds like trouble and not the fun kind.

              • jim says:

                > women are fundamentally other than and, in matters of spirit and intellect, i.e. soul, i.e. being human, less than man. This opinion was not controversial two hundred years ago and before.

                Saint Paul makes that point. And then points out that a woman can be virtuous by performing the female role.

                Women are the weaker vessel, and easily influenced to wickedness. But also, easily influenced to virtue. Female virtue. Do not expect male virtue, it is inappropriate for women.

                Adam failed Eve’s shit test by going along with Eve instead of giving her a spanking, and also failed God’s test. Expect, and firmly insist upon, female virtue.

                When a woman hears someone else priesting and preaching about the proper roles of husband and wife, and it differs from what you say and perform, her pussy is going to tell her: “Test who is more alpha, this man or your husband?”” And she is then going to shit test you. She is going to perform according to hostile alien teachings by someone who wants destroy your marriage and all marriages. This performance is a shit test. Pass it.

                • The Cominator says:

                  “But also, easily influenced to virtue. Female virtue.”

                  How do you define “female virtue”?

                • jim says:

                  The fortitude to perform the very tough female role, and the willingness to do so.

                  Genesis 3:16

                  > in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.

                  Digressing, I note that those who claim to believe the Book of Genesis “literally” seldom believe it spiritually.

                • Adam says:

                  I was wondering the same thing. Proverbs 31 is probably a good start.

                • Red says:

                  in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.

                  > Digressing, I note that those who claim to believe the Book of Genesis “literally” seldom believe it spiritually.

                  My ChristCuck relatives literally go into full on blue screen of death shutdown if I quote that verse. They’ll argue all day long that the earth was created in 7 days but that women must be ruled by their husbands? Nah!

                • Pooch says:

                  How do you define “female virtue”?

                  Modesty, Chastity, Motherhood.

                • The Cominator says:

                  Motherhood and submission.

                  Modesty and chastity in of itself are not virtues. The modern western feminist proves that.

                • Pooch says:

                  Modesty and chastity in of itself are not virtues. The modern western feminist proves that.

                  Absolutely are. Find a woman who doesn’t dress like a whore and who wasn’t ran through. I did.

                • jim says:

                  Doable. Not to be confused with unicorn chasing.

                • The Cominator says:

                  Women today generally wear pants the ultimate asexual non whorish wear. Whores NEVER wear pants at least not when they are working.

                • Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

                  Consider the movie “Cuties”, which is in many ways a distillation of the whig telos vis-a-vis women.

                  Most people at the time got het up over the idea of pre-teen girls twerking for attention, with some more aware folks getting het up over the plot device of the moslem girl rejecting the folkways of her ancestors in order to engage in said urban degeneracy; but the real trick becomes apparent once watched all the way through.

                  In the ending, the girl protagonist ultimately doesn’t just reject her mohammedanism, she also rejects the dressing and dancing up with the group for sex appeal too, thus expressing the true end of the judeo-puritan strain of feminism; a sexless interchangeable meat-unit with no distinguishing features or attractions at all.

                • Pooch says:

                  Women today generally wear pants the ultimate asexual non whorish wear. Whores NEVER wear pants at least not when they are working.

                  You’re a weird fucking dude man.

                  Anyways, it is extremely obvious how modest a woman is based on her appearance. Hair, makeup, dress, tight fitting clothing, piercings, skin showing, tattoos, etc.

                  The early Church Fathers placed tremendous praise on Christian women who downplayed and refrained from all those things.

                • Guy says:

                  Women’s pants these days are far from modest. It’s been funny to watch the change the type of clothes women wear to work over the past 20 years. Pretty soon they’re re going to just start showing up with their vag completely out and just like now nobody is going to say a word to them for fear of being accused of sexual harassment. What’s sexual about a woman going to work with her vagina hanging out? You’re the pervert for looking at it! Meanwhile chicks just keep dressing sluttier and sluttier waiting for the day some man will be strong enough to tell him to put some fucking clothes on.

                  Personally I just try to enjoy the show and I treat them about as respectfully as they’re willing to treat themselves. Yoga pants/tights at work are one big shit test though

                • Pooch says:

                  Doable. Not to be confused with unicorn chasing.

                  Yes, which is why female virtue is not to be confused with the male virtues of inner character. All women are like that and act like that.

                  But not all women dress like that or have ridden the cock carousel like that.

                • Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

                  As a general rule, the most low cost method of assessing the virtue of a girl, is by assessing the virtue of her father and grandfather.

                • Pooch says:

                  As a general rule, the most low cost method of assessing the virtue of a girl, is by assessing the virtue of her father and grandfather.

                  I can often assess the virtue of a girl by merely looking at her.

                • Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

                  Of course, you know, just saying; breed the change you want to see in the world.

                • Pooch says:

                  Of course, you know, just saying; breed the change you want to see in the world.

                  I agree, but for me this just means breed with a white woman. Jim is right, there are no unicorns just more or less used women, which is the defining characteristic of female virtue (outside of motherhood).

                  Find an unowned gently used white woman, wife raid her, and you are in good shape.

                • Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

                  The point being of course that odds of such happenstances are better in certain circles; and you and those men rewarding each other with genetic patrimony is all to the good.

                • The Cominator says:

                  Sure I’m weird, you’re looking for normies on a far right reactionary website?

                  But don’t you find the dress of the modern Western women more androgynous and grotesque than seductive? Do you think women should generally wear pants… I personally do not I think their should be rigid distinctions in how the sexes dress wear their hair everything.

                  Tats are a category that can be both whorish or radfem grotesque but ALL women have them nowadays (all meaning 99%) so unfortunately if you are going to reject women on the grounds of having any tats… you might as well go elsewhere or become a monk.

                  “I can often assess the virtue of a girl by merely looking at her.”

                  If they are a landwhale with blue hair and tats everywhere obviously you want to stay the fuck away…

                  ———–

                  As far as women in tight fitting yoga outfits at work… who also sue you for sexual harassment if you comment on it. I’ve never ever seen that on the East Coast north or south (women looking to cause trouble is universal sure but I’ve never seen it that way here). Maybe thats a West Coast thing but I’ve never been to the West Coast and the way things are now I don’t plan to.

                • Pooch says:

                  But don’t you find the dress of the modern Western women more androgynous and grotesque than seductive?

                  There is massive and incredible variance in the way Western women dress. They have almost complete freedom in their appearance. So to say “All Western women dress and look like this” is not based in reality.

                  Obviously we are not going to find women ultra modestly dressed like Puritans, that Christian virtue in women, as well as men, is long gone.

                  Having said that, it’s abundantly clear when a woman looks like a slut and a whore and when one is dressed more modestly respective to the population as a whole. You know it when you see it.

                • The Cominator says:

                  Note old pictures of women from the 20th century before the 90s which is when the cancer really went into overdrive…

                  Whether you consider their dress modest or not (that varied depending on the time period, parts of the 80s 60s and believe it or not the 40s were particularly immodest… I guess 1940s garb is only indirectly revealing and maybe I just find it really hot) the pre 90s dress was consistently more feminine than the way the overwhelmingly majority of women today dress and generally they looked far more attractive.

                • Guy says:

                  @Com I’m seeing this in professional settings in Mass. Chicks in offices with college degrees making decent money showing their camel toe all day. Especially under 30s

                • Guy says:

                  @Com: guy I work with, Ukrainian, shacked up with some Cambodian chick at work (decent looking, but flat faced). He’s like 5’2″, so he works out a lot and drives fast cars.

                  This new girl shows up, tight fitting everything, 24 years old, hottest chick in the department right off the bat. Around the same time 3-4 other recent college grads girls start working there. The hot new girl starts flirting hard all the time with the Ukranian (and everyone else).

                  Suddenly new hot girl is a lesbian, starts dating one of the other young girls in the department. Short time later the girls go to HR and claim Ukranian told hot girl she just needed a good dicking.

                  HR says your word against his, back to work (private company, well connected, low profile) and they quit threatening to sue (they never sue). They investigated the incident, and the guy could have been fired, but they knew the girls were problems and we were better off without them.

                • The Cominator says:

                  Haven’t been there in a while and no plans to ever return…

                  Can’t comment on the phenomenon but I’ve always found I’ve generally gotten along better with girls who are into yoga than girls who aren’t…

                • Kunning Drueger says:

                  This protracted exchange was illuminating. Lots of commenters live in the suburbs, or maintain suburban frame, and lots of us keep treating women as people, as in people we interact with, as in people we interact with on a level playing field, as in we keep playing Whig games by Whig rules. I think St. John’s prescription is not only correct it’s also the smartest. This is not to say you can’t find and maintain a good wife without the father and brothers involvement, but if that’s not possible, there’s probably important information about the challenge you’re taking on.

                  And I find the idea that one can spot virtue at a glance perplexing, given the hymen collection I put together in my teens and twenties. Femininity and desirability, at 30 paces, in seconds, absolutely. But virtue? I don’t buy it. A woman’s virtue appears to be a reflection of the man that controls her. This is frustrating for me; I’m imperfect and it’s hard enough to just try to be honest and just. It’s like men have to carry the burden of our honor and their loyalty, the weight of the past and the future. If this sounds like bitching, that’s because it is. I’ll get over it, but my word what a Blackpill. It’s almost like blackpills about women have a variable density contingent upon whatever your going through. Sometimes it’s just shame.gif. Other times, it’s Stan.trunk.

                • Pooch says:

                  I guess 1940s garb is only indirectly revealing and maybe I just find it really hot) the pre 90s dress was consistently more feminine

                  If maximum eugenic fertility is ever going to be restored in the West, women are going to look a lot more like Taliban/Puritans and a lot less like what you think is hot and feminine.

                  The idea is to keep people from breaking commandments, not make women look like what’s most enjoyable to you.

                • The Cominator says:

                  Guy… Sounds like she was a cluster B of some kind (NOT the much maligned BPDs who to the extent these shrink categories are accurate are actually the good natured ones).

                  If you try to sue a small not big asset company for sexual harassment the lawyers will laugh at you. If you run a small business and not too much in the way of assets you can sexually harass your female employees all you want

                • Pooch says:

                  This new girl shows up, tight fitting everything, 24 years old, hottest chick in the department right off the bat. Around the same time 3-4 other recent college grads girls start working there. The hot new girl starts flirting hard all the time with the Ukranian (and everyone else).

                  If I worked there and was single, I’d just fuck one of those girls. One of the biggest mistakes I made was passing up a young hottie at my job thinking not risking my job was more important.

                  Dumb corporate jobs are really not that hard to replace.

                  Creating an environment where a young piece of ass finds you alpha is hard to replicate and takes considerable effort.

                  If your job is doing that for you, might as well take advantage and use it for wife raiding purposes and then just quit if it becomes a problem.

                • Pooch says:

                  This is not to say you can’t find and maintain a good wife without the father and brothers involvement, but if that’s not possible, there’s probably important information about the challenge you’re taking on.

                  If a girl is dressing modestly (respective to the modern woman) and has a lower notch count, that’s indicative that her father is doing a good job on her. St. John is right. They correlate.

                • The Cominator says:

                  Pooch would have gotten accused of r@p8 because he went after his office Amber Heard…

                • Pooch says:

                  Only betas and niceguys get accused of rape.

                • The Cominator says:

                  Lol tell Mike Tyson that. You get an NPD case who wants attention you’re f#cked.

                • Pooch says:

                  Tyson failed to continue raping.

                • The Cominator says:

                  Look i generally agree with Jim on sexual coercion but when you’re arguing that Tyson wasn’t rough and alpha enough… you’re taking it too far.

                • Pooch says:

                  He never called her back. Betas get accused of sexual harassment. Alphas that fuck and chuck (especially Uber rich bad ass celebrity alphas like Tyson) get accused of rape. Incredibly common with athletes.

                • Jehu says:

                  Mary, the mother of Jesus displays the apogee of mortal female virtue.

                  Specifically, she displays heroic obedience to God, who is the Alpha of Alphas. She knows that she is going to suffer mightily for her obedience—a bigtime hit to her social standing and probably forfeiting the marriage she had lined up, but she obeys anyway.

                  Heroic obedience is what female virtue looks like. Through that obedience was the Logos made flesh.

                • The Cominator says:

                  Lol you can’t disobey a direct order from God…

                  Loyalty is a virtue obedience to the point where its an absurdity is not.

                • Jehu says:

                  Plenty of people disobeyed direct orders from God in the Bible. I suspect they’re still doing so even today. God doesn’t usually lightning bolt you for that. Abraham could’ve said no thanks and stayed in Ur. God usually doesn’t force people’s hand outside of a few edge cases.

                • jim says:

                  The story of Job, which is a spiritually true story that likely takes a few liberties with actual history, but is set within the real places and real events of the time, so if the writer is taking a few liberties, he is basing on real events and real people, is a story of God very vigorously coercing one of his prophets to deliver the message of repentance to the Assyrians, because God cares for all peoples. The prophet did not want to deliver the message, because he very much wanted the Assyrians to get it in the nads.

                  We know from clay tablets that got fired, as a side effect of burning the places mentioned in the story to ground, that the Assyrians at the time were feeling rather uneasy that they might have attracted the wrath of God, and as a result their state religion lacked enforcement and self confidence. But it did not get burned to the ground until long after the time in which the book of Job was set, so maybe they did indeed repent, but repentance failed to stick.

                  The primary point of the story is that God would prefer you to persuade you enemies – however, he had a very different solution for Amalekites.

                • Red says:

                  Look i generally agree with Jim on sexual coercion but when you’re arguing that Tyson wasn’t rough and alpha enough… you’re taking it too far.

                  Tyson kicked her out right after he fucked her, IE she took it as rejection or scorn. She claimed rape exact 24 hours later, probably after she talked to her friends and having gotten very upset that Tyson didn’t call her again.

                  If you scorn a woman she will try to destroy you if for no other reason than to attract your attention again.

                • The Cominator says: