Today in America it is the year in Rome fifty eight years before Christ. We are here. The mob is on the streets, which the courts decline to put down, courts and legal processes of the Republic politicized and defunct, carrying out political vengeance and refusing to enforce law, elections blatantly fraudulent and discredited.
Caesar crossing the Rubicon was the culmination of more Rubicons than you can shake a stick at. Before Caesar crossed the Rubicon, Clodius and Pompey crossed the Pomerium.
And before they crossed the Pomerium, Rome had the grossly dysfunctional courts, the undue process, and the rigged elections, that we have right now.
Soros and Hunter Biden are Clodius. Trump is Pompey, Cato, and Cicero. The Insurrection Act is the Senatus Consultum Ultimum.
When Pompey crossed the Pomerium fifty two years before Christ, he rolled up the useless, cowardly, weak, and undisciplined mob, and enforced order without mucking around with the useless and discredited courts.
But, since Pompey was an idiot, he then stepped down from the job of dictator, expecting normalcy to return. It did not. And everyone else acted like idiots also. Seeing order return, they thought that democracy, legality, and due process had returned, though obviously it had not.
Order seemingly restored by Pompey’s dictatorship and the Senatus Consultum Ultimum, Rome went on a conquest binge, dropping the pretext of self defense, and pissing off all its neighbors. One of its neighbors, the Parthians, revealed that they had been advancing the art and technology of war, while Rome had been quietly regressing. But the Parthians were content to grossly humiliate Rome, and merely returned their borders to where they were legally supposed to be, though there was absolutely nothing to stop them from rolling up the the entire eastern empire, and perhaps Rome itself. They still had and observed the legality that Rome had abandoned.
Eight years later, forty nine years before Christ, massive abuse of the courts and lack of legality forced Caesar to, with extraordinary reluctance, cross the Rubicon, after several years where legality was not in effect, but people still deluded acted as if it was. And finally, belatedly, remarkably belatedly, people after the assassination of Caesar recognized that legality, due process, courts, laws, fair trials, and free elections are finally gone and are not coming back any time soon.
Political violence continues to grow, eventually resulting in total war, immensely destructive civil war carried out by extraordinary and unprecedented measures.
After eighteen years of ever escalating chaos and ever more massive and extraordinary bloodshed, after a civil war that turned total, Caesar’s adopted son, Augustus, made himself dictator, but having learned from Pompey’s error, did not step down from the job expecting normalcy to return.
Legality, due process, free elections, and peaceful transfer of power, once lost, are hard to restore.
But despite the imperium, the swamp went on being swampy, the state religion went on being hostile, legality did not return. And things stayed like that for two and half centuries, till Constantine built a new capital, and made a new religion the state religion.
My hope is that our Pompey will be our Constantine, that we do a fast forward over Rome’s centuries of war and ruin.
I do not think we will leapfrog over ”Rome’s centuries of war and ruin”. This is the ”Long Emergency” James Kunstler talks about. One can hope that we can fast forwards certain aspects a little bit, but we’ve been living off the social capital of a Christianity in the West that is almost gone, having turned to Heresy and outright Apostasy in the interim.
But of that interregnum there will be much to do for men of action, and I take solace in the fact that there will likely be no Liberals to bedevil mankind with their madness in another 10-20 years, tops.
No, by that time at least I think we’ll be dealing with other men, not effeminates or feminists, just people such as the Muslims and the Chinese and Africans.
Interesting thought, Strannik. With the “useful idiots” replaced by *overt* tyrants, do you think we are simply finding our way around the bad part of the Tytler cycle?
I think we’re finding our way around the bad part of Tytler’s cycle. Although I am not as deterministic as that great Scotsman was, I think you can undo the cycle if one is powerful enough and prescient enough to look ahead and address the issues diligently. But it is true in most cases people can’t seem to be able to look either backwards or forwards beyond their immediate time and place.
I don’t buy the prospect of no leftists in 10-20 years. That sounds like Hitler saying that once they kick down the door of the Soviet Union, the entire rotten edifice will come crashing down. It last far longer than his Reich.
In fact, I don’t buy the prospect that leftists are -ever- going away. The misfits of each generation, at the very least, will be drawn to leftism, and the world is far too large to purge — and any such purge would be far too bloody for anybody but a leftist to stomach.
It looks to me at this point like we’re heading for a very long winter of leftism. My recommendation is to hunker down and focus on what is near at hand rather than playing to the national stage. If this election goes the way it looks like it’s going to, we just don’t have any chance of winning by any means other than evolutionary and economic success, and it’s going to take a few generations of hard demographic work to build the core peoples for a Restoration.
Leftism in some form will always endure. Some form of envy based leftism is natural. You could even argue that societies need some amounts of it in small doses so they don’t end up resembling say Renaissance Poland.
Utopian Marxism and its bastard offshot utopian progressivism are RELIGIONS not mere envy based leftism, and they can absolutely be eradicated.
You mentioned new age leftism to me, and I recalled some new age leftists that I was living with temporarily a few years ago. They had downright ‘traditional’ gender roles (compared of course only to what was going on around them); pleasant girls who knew how to entertain and have an actual conversation, not overtly slutty (although in fact, averagely slutty). And men that were actually medium-to-high T and handy with tools. And long-term relationships resembling marriage with the girl popping out her first baby at 25 and her second at 26. Sometimes the women reminded me of 1930s women.
Made a lot of noises about human rights, justice for the poor etc. and did a lot of drugs but I never had a serious conflict about politics with them or had to hold my tongue. Could joke about almost anything with them.
Is there a way we can seed/engineer a widespread movement like this to suck up people who would otherwise become progressives?
Marxist and progressive leftists are evil power seeking totalitarian cults which seek to reduce humanity to bugmen and bug trannies respectively.
New agey type leftists are genuinely not evil and believe in individual freedom to an extent, but they have some romantic notions of a humanity freed from even the more informal hierarchies of corporate structures (I mean I like that for myself too which is why now that I can avoid it I don’t work for anyone else, or in a way that I have to even deal with customers).
To the extent they are “feminist” they are “free love” sex positive feminist. They do not believe in modern feminism because they absolutely believe men and women are different. The women tend to be actually among the feminine and nice girls you will find in American society (but they tend to do a lot of drugs). Its okay among them to like Trump its not that they necessarily like Trump but they hate the other side and don’t listen to the media either… especially if you explain it in old leftist terms like how the other side is a project of global slavery and global war (which is true).
If I were the Emperor or head of the Inquisition or something I would direct them that I consider these type of leftists are harmless and they are not to be touched whereas progs and marxists are to be shown absolutely no mercy.
Yes, this concept of yours fits my data near perfectly. I assume this is not reactionary canon and that you came up with it yourself because I have only read it in your comments. But I absolutely agree. Not all leftists cut from the same cloth.
The way you describe it made me realize I was actually a new agey leftist myself when I was young, and this also explains why I turned libertarian in disgust with the progressive left (and luckily found Kuehnelt-Leddihn, Hoppe and Baader at some point, and from that Moldbug and Jim). When I was young I had the very same dream about no hierarchies, no pleasing bosses or customers. Then I discovered I was pretty good at handling all three, so I became more pragmatic. But I have always understood the impulse.
Perhaps they should be treated as a tolerated but non-privileged non-state religion, like Jehovah’s witnesses or something. Their secret is probably that their commandments (no slavery, no war, enjoy and create life, …) cannot be easily holiness-spiralled so the dynamics of progressive leftism don’t happen.
https://www.politico.com/states/new-york/city-hall/story/2020/11/26/supreme-court-ruling-doesnt-have-any-practical-effect-cuomo-says-1338228
Jim you were right that the left is done with complying with SCOTUS orders it doesn’t like.
Justification for invoking the Insurrection Act, but a relatively weak justification.
Trump has one such justification, arguably two such justifications, in his pocket. He will shortly have many more. But a stronger justification would be helpful.
“Trump is Pompey, Cato, and Cicero.”
Lets hope he is Julius Caesar… Cicero was Rome’s Mitt Romney, a hypocritical snake tounged treacherous cuckservative.
We don’t have a Cato someone who is both fanatically reactionary and fanatically opposed to Trump.
Trouble with Julius Caesar was that he cheerfully recognized the collapse of legality and propriety before everyone else did, and expected and intended to replace it with open Kingship.
His adoptive son, Augustus Caesar, had a more palatable solution. Though Caesar’s solution might well have avoided the centuries of troubles.
Why do you think that Caesar’s solution might have avoided centuries of troubles?
My impression is that Augustus and his successors were awfully short of sons which was cause of instability and lots of trouble. Christianty improved fertility, but don’t see what Caesar could have done about it.
Yes, shortage of sons was by far the biggest problem.
But we see them casting around for a state religion, and struggling for lack of a decent one. The priests of the old gods were a problem, and emperor worship did not fix the problem. The old gods failed to support virtue, and provided the priests with far too many grounds to meddle in that which is Caesar’s. Which was a pain the butt for Xenophon.
Mitt Romney is both fanatically reactionary and fanatically opposed to Trump. At one time one might have said the same of Ted Cruz, although I’m not sure now.
Mitt Romney is reactionary? Go ahead, explain, I’m dying to hear this one.
Romney is a fanatical Mormon. Mormonism is inherently reactionary. Therefore, Romney is a reactionary. Now, you may think he operates as a Jacobin, but it’s for reactionary ends using leftist means.
Romney is a progressive not a Mormon.
Romney may be Mormon in title, he may have the magic underwear on, but he *practices* the religion of leftism.
This is just hilariously stupid. Prove it. When has Mitt Romney ever done anything that doesn’t benefit progressivism?
I’m glad we have people like Jim who understand and teach about entryism. Thinking that someone must be good because they belong to some religion (or any other open-entry group) on paper is a big part of why western conservatives have failed to conserve anything at all.
It’s huge gaping security vulnerabilities like this that make me skeptical of Christianity as a viable state religion. Bring back excommunication already.
Most of the creeds were designed to keep out various types of entryism.
The current crop of entryists can say “Jesus Jesus” all day long, because they refer to a Jewish community organizer who pointed the way to Obama the lightbringer, who stopped the oceans from rising, brought world peace, and healed the earth.
Article two of the thirty nine articles of the Anglican Church was specifically targeted to keep out Socinians. Would have probably worked had they forced applicants to say the words, but they just stopped testing applicants. The Socinians got control the the Church of England back in 1832, maybe a bit earlier.
The existing security measures are good enough. Christianity has been under entryist attack for two millenia. Christians got quite good at this. Trouble is that we are lax in applying the existing security measures that are theoretically in place.
Lack of enforcement of security measures is as much a security vulnerability as not having them in the first place.
Historical performance tells us what Christianity could be, what you want it to be, what it ideally should be, but not what it currently is. Before it can be a viable state religion, every Christian will have to laugh uproariously at “hail fellow Christian” rhetoric the same way every Muslim would laugh uproariously (or maybe just go straight to beheading) at “hail fellow Muslim”.
I see you doing this, and maybe half a dozen other Christians I’ve ever met, but the vast majority are still hopelessly naive. I don’t know what is to be done. Perhaps the laity will grow spines when their priests do; that would certainly be an easier problem to solve, though still an uphill battle.
When you unpoz the churches, you are automatically telling people that there is such a thing as a heresy, which needs to be excised. Then it will not seem so bad, indeed necessary to have creeds or other security features.
Unpozzing is the hard part.
Nuts. Romney is neither Mormon nor Christian. It is just protective coloration.
Well, here’s the way I originally envisioned the idea of Romney being a reactionary of sorts. Recall how we discussed Muslims piggybacking on their alliance with the Left for their own ends? What’s to say that Mormons like Romney aren’t thinking along those same lines. If a guy like me can think up some twisted ”game of thrones” Machiavellian shit like that, surely a weasel like Romney can too, right?
I’ve driven the Fresh Pond rotary many times, but never wept there:
https://www.politico.com/story/2007/12/mitt-wept-when-church-ended-discrimination-007415
Christians have a tendency to prescribe philosophically positive “Leftism†as philosophically negative “unbelief.†The irony of NeoReaction is that it took a 21st century Atheist Jew to point out a Christian heresy.
If Christians understood Leftism as heresy, not “unbelief,†then they might have been prescient to deal with it like Catharism. Personal “theism†has no greater spiritual significance than “atheism;†belief in God is not an indication of conscience.
The irony is even greater: it took a 21st century Atheist Jew to point out a Christian heresy AND be heard.
Chesterton already noted the results separation of Church and State done clumsily: clashing overexcited “secular” movements that cannot be meaningfully negotiated or generally handled in a sensible way, because their advertised premises are fake and they have incentives to keep it this way.
On the other side, it’s not like e.g. helpless Oriental Collectivismâ„¢ meme of the moderates was flailing around without any reason at all. If the hole can be patched only with something careening into “Marx was a China man, Engels a Mongol, and Plymouth was done by Brezhnev’s time traveling operatives”, some water must get through.
Gorbachev said it plainly.
And even the Cathedral’s clients go “it’s totally a Crusade, guys” when they stop cooperating fully and start wrestling for advantages. Sure, the last one has double bottom opening inside the Cathedral’s territory, thanks to the Outer Party as a scapegoat for hire — but it had to be mostly plausible.
Mitt Romney is a leftist, and when he was hoping to president, I posted that he would be a bigger disaster than any of the Democratic candidates
Romney supported “arab spring”, which was progressive imperialism which aimed to install progressive Islam over the middle east. It led to disaster, partly because their Mohammedan allies betrayed them, and partly because of American military incapacity..
[*deleted for posting demon worship from within the frame that you are a Christian*]
Affirm that Jesus Christ is Lord, born in Bethlehem, died in Jerusalem, that he is from before the beginning of the world, fully man and fully God, God is three and God is one, because I don’t allow people to post leftism from within the frame that they are Christian unless they can affirm Christianity.
Which they seldom can.
One cannot be at once a Christian and a leftist. The two are mutually exclusive. Anyone who claims to be both has bastardized one or the other (or possibly both) to make them “fit” together. They are incompatible.
Observe how the left wing takeover of Anglicanism in the nineteenth century involved moving non Christians (socinians) into the top.
The inability to say certain Christian words would suggest that now it is no longer socinians, but demon worshipers. Or maybe socinianism was an intellectual cover for demon worship from the beginning.
Does anyone here read Miles Mathis’ blog? He claims that this whole election fiasco is staged and Trump was always meant to win, and the Democrats are playing the heel in this “staged event.” According to his theory the covid lockdown and election fraud are all meant to make everyone hate the Democrats WWE style.
I don’t really buy his belief that everything is staged…. but I don’t know what to think at this point. I know the covid lockdown is clearly BS, and the Democrats are corrupt as hell. Is Trump going to cross the Rubicon? The sheer amount of misinformation and conjecture online is confusing as all can be.
Things really are grim – but they are not as grim as black pillers say, nor as hopeful as the Qtards say.
Should we be knocking white pillers?
Qtards are a prolific source of misinformation.
That’s not white pill, it’s retard pill.
“White pill” is something that tells you not to give up, and to keep fighting, because there’s still hope. But notice how all Qtardery and related phenomena tell you something rather different – that there’s no need to fight because everything’s just fine, better than fine actually, we’ve already won, there’s all this amazing stuff going on behind the scenes, don’t worry that you can’t see it, just sit back and watch.
That’s disinfo.
I think it’s more staged than most people care to think about. But, it’s also a case of people happening to make the same kind of mistakes over and over, because human nature hasn’t changed that much from the Fall.
Miles T Mattis generally writes articles with a contrarian, unorthodox perspective. I wouldn’t always take his commentary on contemporary events at face value, but it shouldn’t be entirely discounted. He is brilliant.
One thing he is exceptionally good at is tracing the genealogy and associations of elite family lines going back hundreds of years. A very unusual genius.
I read him. He’s brilliant but gets a little carried away at times. Even when he’s flat out wrong though he gets close enough to the mark that whatever he says is at least worth paying attention to.
Pretty much….Miles is really entertaining when he dissects nonsensical historical events,,
Is that the guy with the unified field theory?
http://mileswmathis.com/trump3.pdf
Only 20% actually voting Republican? And who would be competent enough to stage the election like that? That’s my main problem with conspiratards in general: They assume an actually competent elite that can do stuff that does not backfire all the time and has the coordination to keep its most radical elements under control. All the evidence we have shows that the elite is not that cohesive and is suffering from crippling ideological blindness, so conspiratards are just another type of blackpiller.
He is right about controlled opposition tactics, but not about much else.
Aside from the legal path, what other options do you think there are for Trump to cross the Rubicon? I assume appointing Chris Miller as Acting Secretary of DoD was meant to bring home as many troops as possible, but perhaps he has other plans in mind.
Insurrection act
He gets to declare it. Does not need congress, does not need the supremes.
But now, based on Sidney’s verified complaint and affidavits, Trump appears to have solid evidence in the form of intercepts that China and Iran used Dominion to tamper with the election…which is all the pretext he needs to invoke the Insurrection Act, if that’s even necessary…Dominion personnel appear to be running for the hills, and the Biden team freaking out over it….
Maybe he has.
How do you know he has? Links? Sources? Sydney is not known to be a reliable source. What is in her affidavits?
Sidney is connected with the military and MI through Flynn and states that she has expert testimony based on MI and/or possibly NSA intercepts, which seems highly likely based on Snowden’s revelations…Flynn is definitely on our side…I’m not sure why you consider Sidney unreliable, but the other allegations of the complaint seem right on target..I’d be very surprised, as a former litigator myself, if she could not back up such explosive allegations….
Well, I just went over all her exhibits and there’s nothing significant there that we haven’t already seen. The poll worker affidavits are good and there are some individual observations in there that I wasn’t aware of, but zilch on the counterintelligence front. Her big centerpiece is the dude babbling about a Serbian programmer working on ML algorithms that he mistook for (or misrepresented as) relating to elections somehow. It’s true blue Pepe Silva tier nonsense.
And for fuck’s sake stop saying the word “explosive”.
Your characterization of the complaint is way off base, suggesting you know little about law except what you see on TV, and I don’t know how you would describe allegations of treason in any other way…In my experience as a lawyer, I have never heard of such an allegation in any civil lawsuit…
I don’t watch TV, Qtard, and practicing lawyers don’t use phrases like “explosive”. Did you actually litigate serious cases or were you some kind of urban corporate back-office lawyer?
What is my characterization of her complaint? I wonder if Qtards have the same vulnerability as other shills. Tell me in your own words why *I* think her complaint is badly designed – feel free to tell me afterward why you believe I’m wrong or misinformed. (Hopefully it’s better than Vox’s copout of “normies wouldn’t understand real evidence”, that’s fine for PR but this is the actual court filing.)
Sidney Powell has an extremely impressive resume, having graduated from UNC at age 19 and from law school 3 years later, with great experience in Appellate work….https://infogalactic.com/info/Sidney_Powell
Solid evidence is for courts and only matters if the courts still judge according to the law.
Maybe some still do, but I would not bet on it.
Solid evidence is for us. And, more importantly, we want to know what Trump knows, in order to figure out what he is up to.
The courts have been dysfunctional for some time. We must judge each for ourselves.
I hope for a good judgment in the supremes, so that Trump has clearly legitimate grounds for the insurrection act. But the courts are not a reliable index to information. If Trump gets a good supreme court judgment, that will be because the supremes are unhappy about being ignored and do not want to be stacked, nothing to do with the strength of his case.
I admit that I also want to know what Trump knows, but that is just curiosity. I do not need to know what he knows.
If solid evidence is for us, than it simply means that every man has to judge for himself. Men are different. Some men will require more evidence than others and some men no evidence at all.
I see Trump as a chance to stop the holiness spiral which will be very beneficial not just for the USA, but for the entire Western civilisation. Hence, the only evidence I’m interested in is whether Trump really wants to stop the madness.
No, that is not what that means. That is the progressive standard of evidence: “Your truth.” And not coincidentally, also the Qtard standard of evidence.
Every man should verify evidence to the best of his ability, but every man doesn’t get to choose whatever standard of evidence is appropriate as a pretext for violence or punishment. Not unless you want to take us back to the pre-biblical days of blood feuds and trepanning.
None of us are demanding that Sidney actually win a court case, because the judges tend to be untrustworthy. But we want to see her evidence for ourselves, not simply be told that oh, she’s got evidence, you’ll see! Nor is anyone making an assertive claim that she doesn’t have good evidence; she’s just an unknown quantity who’s thrown up a few red flags.
Sidney Powell’s Michigan lawsuit with all exhibits attached:
https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/18693929/king-v-whitmer/
Have fun verifying.
Of course, there is only one truth, but a man either judges for himself or relies on the judgement of someone else.
Truth is difficult to ascertain. Two mathematicians will agree when something is proven, two judges often will not. One judge might believe a witness, another judge will not – both can give reasons. One man can honestly be convinced that something is proven while another man still has honest doubts.
The law recognizes different standards of proof. Which one do you pick? Why should another man accept your pick? How do you propose to establish consensus about what is proven and what is not?
Exhibit 3 is good stuff, that’s the dozens of affidavits from observers and challengers. This is the traditional fraud we are talking about with tons of evidence. #6 is similar, just one extra complaint, #10 is more of the same. These are all good, not sure why they aren’t aggregated.
Exhibit 5 is the IT contractor, I already watched and commented on her interview a week or two ago, but for anyone who’s late to the party, the affidavit is a good short summary.
#7 has to be tied in with the USPS stuff – it’s alright, just supporting/secondary evidence.
#8 is just the contract, from which she extracts one sentence about replacement keys. Seems pretty weak to me.
#101-103 are regarding the statistical implausibility. Good, although I wish there’d been more – there’s enough evidence to paint a truly shocking picture but the ones she chooses are merely “hmm that looks kinda suspicious”.
There are references to other precedent-setting court cases in some exhibits. I won’t comment on those since I’m interested in the facts, not the law.
So, all this good stuff, then what’s the problem? Exhibit 1 and several of the other exhibits not listed above all focus on the Dominion angle. Half of her entire case seems to be about DVS, and almost all of it is rampant Qtardery.
– The Venezuelan official talks about events from decades ago, refers to Smartmatic (Dominion’s current competitor, and yes I am aware of the Sequoia cutout and technology acquisition) and really doesn’t say much at all about the mechanism of supposed algorithmic fraud.
– A couple of other exhibits are just random strings of coincidences with no apparent narrative: “oh look, someone from China visited Dominion’s web site”. “Hey one of the subdomains says scorecard!” Rubbish.
– Some quasi-insiders saying “well I’m sure the software was used to steal the election” without being able to say exactly how, but spraying a lot of squid ink to cover up that fundamental flaw.
– Texas rejected Dominion, media were warning about Dominion two years ago, etc., all in the “so what” category as far as a judge is concerned, and all things we here have known forever.
The Qtard narrative is dominating the filing, and it’s weak as fuck. A lot of it sounds very complex, and since I’m pretty sure Sidney doesn’t understand the technical aspects, she must be relying on other “experts” to tell her whether or not there’s anything interesting there, and those experts are feeding her disinfo. Being very complex does not make it useful; I actually do understand how the internet works and can easily point out that some of these supposedly suspicious coincidences are not only uninteresting, they’re practically inevitable – show me a web site that hasn’t received some kind of traffic from China at some point in time. As Barnes pointed out, even if the allegations are true, it’s a terrible case because she just can’t prove it.
If she’d thrown out all the Dominion shit that’s pure Qtard, she’d have a bulletproof case. But because she didn’t learn her lesson in PA, she’s going to blow it again. Her Michigan case will be thrown out because it looks like what she’s doing is throwing a bunch of shit against the wall to see if anything sticks. The awful disinfo dilutes the concrete election fraud evidence, and makes it easy for the defense and judge to shrug it all off as a dumb conspiracy theory.
And what might make this even worse is that it could interfere with Trump/Giuliani’s team, because they are probably relying on a lot of the same evidence for the classic fraud case, and it gives an excuse for the court to say “yeah we’ve already seen all of this, go home”.
That is my prediction: Sidney loses because she didn’t separate the wheat from the chaff, again, and Trump/Giuliani get a hard time as a side effect. Fortunately, in Michigan, a court victory seems unnecessary at this point since the adjudicators already refused to certify the result.
You know, upon further reflection, I recall that Trump already dropped their case in Michigan, which could be why Sidney is doing this now. It’s probably not even supposed to succeed in court, just generate a lot of publicity, and Trump/Giuliani don’t really mind because they’re relying on the state legislature in MI rather than the court.
If the whole thing is just a publicity stunt, that makes her actions more justified, but one does have to wonder if it’s intended as publicity for Trump and the election fraud or publicity for herself.
Not Tom
Read exhibit 105
I did. That one is possibly the worst of all of them, it’s the one that caused me the biggest “ugh qtard” cringe, and I even referred to it directly e.g. referencing Chinese IP traffic. The fact that you obviously didn’t catch it means that you either only skimmed it yourself, or didn’t understand its content and were bamboozled by the technical-sounding jargon just like she was.
This shit doesn’t play in court; the opposing side gets to bring in their own experts to explain why 105 is totally asinine. It’s not new evidence, either, it’s just a compendium of all the most ridiculous Dominion narratives being shilled on Twitter and the chans. It’s obvious, obvious disinfo.
“I did. That one is possibly the worst of all of them, it’s the one that caused me the biggest “ugh qtard†cringe, and I even referred to it directly e.g. referencing Chinese IP traffic. The fact that you obviously didn’t catch it means that you either only skimmed it yourself, or didn’t understand its content and were bamboozled by the technical-sounding jargon just like she was.
This shit doesn’t play in court; the opposing side gets to bring in their own experts to explain why 105 is totally asinine. It’s not new evidence, either, it’s just a compendium of all the most ridiculous Dominion narratives being shilled on Twitter and the chans. It’s obvious, obvious disinfo.”
It depends on if she has additional evidence of it… Sidney is probably crazy like most female lawyers but if shes any good as a lawyer (and she seems to be good at that) they’ll mock court the other side going after that.
Not Tom
Really? The affidavit of a military intel analyst that the dominion system was wide open to everyone and their idiot cousins is unimportant?
There are other opinions.
You may want to try overcoming whatever butthurt you have over “qtards”.
Ah, so you actually didn’t read or understand its content, you just hoped (as she probably hopes) that credentials and insinuations will be sufficient to take it across the finish line. But only the left is permitted that standard; the right has to prove its case.
Here’s another framing: a self-identified spook whom we’ve never heard of has strung together a bunch of mundane coincidences to suggest that Dominion is very suspicious and that their system could have been compromised, without providing any specific or reliable information about Dominion’s specific actions or intent, or how or if the system actually was compromised.
It’s worthless. The one thing we need to on the Dominion front is non-circumstantial evidence: code, system logs, emails, whistleblowers, anything that could tell us how the scam worked and when it occurred. A hundred pieces of circumstantial evidence, a thousand, a million, do not add up to one piece of direct evidence. You know that, I know that, Sidney Powell knows that, the judge and defense lawyers will know that. But because of incompetence on the technological front, someone thought that this “evidence” looked very damning.
That’s how disinfo generally works. It’s like the saying “you can’t con an honest man” – disinfo relies on people wanting to appear to be more knowledgeable or have a stronger position than they actually do. Dominion is just weak; even if it’s true, it’s weak, and a barrel of wine plus a drop of sewage gets you sewage.
Trump seems committed to not bending the rules more than necessary to stay in office; whether he is committed to bending them however much is necessary to stay in office remains to be seen, but I hope he is, of course.
On the one hand, it might seem as though the less Trump has to bend the rules to stay in office the better for him, not only because lower risk, but because of legitimacy in terms of the old system; on the other, he might ultimately be in a better position the more he has to bend the rules, assuming, of course, he ultimately succeeds. The more he bends the rules and gets away with it the more he will end up holding a position different from that of POTUS c. 1945-2020, which is what seems needed, as opposed to just “old system plus stricter voter ID” (though even such slowing down of the left would be great compared to the alternative).
Probably pulling things off in any form after this degree of media coronation of his opponent may be enough: after all, there will be no getting around the need to put down an antifa rebellion, though the severity of that rebellion probably does depend somewhat on how hard he has to bend the rules to win.
Pompey was illegally granted the Senatus Consultum Ultimum, and Caesar even more illegally, but Trump has authority and legal cause to declare the Insurrection act. The Insurrection act has no time limit on it, while the Senatus Consultum Ultimum is supposed to have a time limit.
No, there is no need for Trump to bend any rules to stay in office. Reading the riot act is according to the law as it is written. (I understand you referenece to “rules” as a synonym for “law”).
Rather Trump seems commited to avoid as much bloodshed as possible and minimize risk. If he reads the riot act, part of the public will consider that to be unlawful. That part might resist violently. My guess is that he wants to make that part as small as possible.
Antifa rebellion is not a problem. Problem is secret service, armed forces, and police. They or rather parts of them might rebell and cause a problem.
More good news of moves in our favor: The God-Emperor is removing the tentacles of the Deep State from DoD. Sounds like something is afoot.
I wonder if this huge military shake-up has something to do with the rumor (or is it confirmed fact now?) that certain higher-ups flat-out lied to Trump and refused to withdraw troops while claiming they were actually doing so.
It would be ironic if the Cathedral’s incontinence – they literally bragged about this – is what allowed Trump to identify and eliminate an entire faction of disloyal fucks.
Not only did the civil servants responsible literally brag about it, libshit bluecheka journo accounts on social media openly LOL’d about their role as enablers too.
The line that used to separate run of the mill libshits from neocons has completely blurred by this point, now most of them are hawks bent on launching endless wars to spread their newfound totalitarian faith. These people would bomb Poland and Hungary in the name of tranny rights without a second thought.
Not seeing how Augustus’ Imperial solution was a disaster until Christianity. I can see how you could argue it was inherently more unstable (similar to the Mandate of Heaven in China) but it was far from an awful system. If Christianity was required in order for Rome to hav viable institutions, how did the Republic ever achieve greatness and then decline in the first place?
War could only take the Romans so far. It reminds me of what Bismark once said; ”you can make a throne with bayonets but you cannot sit upon it”.
居馬上得之，寧å¯ä»¥é¦¬ä¸Šæ²»ä¹‹ä¹Žï¼Ÿ(That which you have attained on horseback, how can you rule it from there?) -Lu Jia, advisor to the founder of the Han Dynasty
The imperium was not a disaster. Not bad at all, but Constantine was a substantial improvement.
As for how the Republic achieved greatness and then disaster: Obvious virtue, followed by obvious wickedness. Moral decay. Everyone used to know that.
The benefit of Kingship is that you have someone who can do something about moral decay. Which does not at all guarantee that he will do it, but often enough, he does do it.
Something that a term-limited politician cannot do even if he wanted to, unless he pulls something like what Napoleon III did. He became President of France for life, then held a vote on him being declared Emperor, and won. A king has a proprietary and sacred interest in seeing the long term health and prosperity of his lands increase, and if they have sons and daughters, he is hopefully able to impart his wisdom to them for the long term common good of a Dynasty’s subjects.
Something happened between Augustus and Constatine. Namely, Diocletian. Perhaps now it is not the right time to discuss him – my attention gets distracted by current events – but at some point I would like to, as he and his achievement was interesting, there is probably a lesson there. Just not the kind of lesson that would be very relevant now.
Diocletians reforms were incomprehensible to most Romans at the time, but they set the stage for feudal Europe, for a society that endured almost a thousand years afterwards. The Roman Empire outside of Rome had no government, it was ruled by the personal power of whatever general was appointed to that area, but Diocletian tied the military officials to the land, realizing that the power and influence of Rome itself was over. Did not make much difference in the short term, but made enormous difference after Rome was revealed to be a paper tiger, after the sack, when every roman city began operating as an autonomous kingdom.
Diocletians attempts at economic reform were managerial communism, but he did not have the power to enforce them, so they were ignored. His military reforms stuck, and became extremely important.
Some of the communistic crap DID very much have a negative effect, one reason the east survived and the west did not is the eastern emperor Marcian (a VERY underrated figure in history) abolished the command economy.
Was it communism or nationalization? I know thats picking, but my read of a lot of the imperial monopolies on trading staples such as oil and grain was that they were substantially cash grabs to balance the treasury, less looting for the commisar and more looting to keep the legions going, an awful economic policy for the long haul but most of it didn’t seem to me like populares
Not much different but the edict of prices and binding nonslaves to their professions and formerly free farmers to their land and having the state take over all sorts of industries… well it was a lot like communism without the death camps except it was very hard to enforce. A lot of peasants being bound to higher tax than yield land just ran off to work for barbarian chieftains though.
I’m sure the reasoning wasn’t motivated by leftist egalitarian ideology because I just can’t imagine Diocletian or Constantine thinking that way but the effect on the Roman economy seemed to be more terrible than the civil wars as by the time of Theodosius the empire couldn’t seem to be able to raise more than one field army at a time.
Marcian in the East ended socialism in the Eastern Empire and the Eastern Empire for centuries was known as one of the wealthiest places on earth.
Any good sources on Marcian? I have not seen anything detailed about him before
The sources are incomplete but its clear the Eastern Empire like the Western was broke and unable to field more than one field army when Marcian got into office. Its clear that when Marcian died that Constantinople was El Dorado and Procopius in his secret history when he is criticizing Justinian complains that before Justinian that the only economic regulation was a prohibition on selling weapons to hostile barbarians.
So its clear that the socialistic laws were abolished by Marcian.
It’s worth noting that Augustus did try to create a state religion, or at least adapt himself into the existing one: the Imperial Cult. However, the unity it provided was superficial. The peoples of the empire were allowed to continue their previous religious practices as long as they also payed homage to the gods of the state, which now included the Genius of Augustus, and, after his death, the fully divine person of Augustus. For most, this changed little, except for the jews who would continually object to the addition of the Imperial figure in their sanctuaries (which would culminate in the destruction of the Second Temple). Had Augustus, like the much (and likely improperly) maligned Caligula tried (and unlike his great-grandson, succeeded) to unify religious practice in toto around the living person of the Emperor, as it was in the East and Egypt, things might have gone differently.
Its NEVER been a custom in western europe to go full and unironic living god king.
Aryan paganism was a tribe religion, and under it aryan tribes excelled, outcompeted and conquered. Its later inheritors didn’t do so well. Greek and roman paganism were vestigial cults, constantly in flux and being unsuccesfully redesigned to function as state religions. They did not hold degeneracy at bay and in many ways were vessels for degeneracy, for example where aryan high festivals, a few times a year, became a justification for dionysian/bacchanalian cults of partying and whoring all the time.
It takes a while for a high culture to debase itself. Roman paganism was fine when Rome was founded, it generated improvement in its people and its system, but not for long. It wasn’t evolved for such a task, and failed to adapt, so vice and sin increased, but starting from a highly functional point, inertia and functional systems and technology paved the way for the glory of Rome, until not enough of it remained.
Augustus fixed systemic issues and vicious people, but Roman paganism still did not generate iteratively more virtuous men, as it did in its tribal past, it was still headed towards disaster.
The old testament is partially a workbook on how to survive the bronze age collapse, and the roman collapse was similar, and the Christians did better, while roman pagans ate dream fish, cultivated the first LSD from fermented wheat, and banged each other in the ass.
Pretty much. Once the most sacred thing in the religion stopped being the family hearth and the family genius, the religion lost its power to enforce patriarchy and good sexual behavior. But the religion had to abandon the tribal hearth as the most sacred thing, because it needed city gods, gods of common worship, to cooperate with other tribes to found the city and effectively wage war. The city gods became much more important and usurped the hearth-religion. It was a great religion for bronze age warlords, not so great for a massive peaceful civilization.
> One of its neighbors, the Parthians, revealed that they had been advancing the art and technology of war, while Rome had been quietly regressing.
Any primary source recommendations to do further reading on the this? Sounds interesting.
Plutarch’s book on Crassus, Chapter twenty onwards.
Short of it was that ten thousand light and heavy cavalry destroyed forty thousand Roman soldiers.
The King of the Parthians, alarmed by his general’s spectacular success, executed his best general, perhaps fearing that if he conquered the Eastern Roman Empire his general would become alarmingly independent, so the Parthians went downhill from there. But decadence and decline hit them later and slower than the Romans.
The Roman’s up until the time of Belisarius always had trouble with horse archer type armies on open ground. Yes it’s true Trajan beat them bad but he was the exception not the rule.
You talk about Jews doing bad stuff, talk about selective enforcement of laws, and cannot name the Jew who has played the largest role in ensuring that honesty and peacefulness goes to jail, while crimes go unpunished.
You say, correctly, that antifa is run by Jews, and that Jews are preventing their crimes from being prosecuted.
It is primarily one particular Jew.
If you cannot tell us what Soros has done, tell us what we say Soros has done.
Tell us of Soros’s role in the immunity of individual antifa for individual antifa crimes, and I will allow your comments through.
You have to acknowledge our Soros story, tell us what we say it is before you tell us why it is wrong.
This is a test to see if you are under Soros supervision.
If posting under supervision, conversation with you is likely to be unprofitable. If you are under supervision, I am talking back to one megaphone of a thousand megaphones, and the man holding the microphone is not listening.
How did Soros ensure that none of the men who attempted to murder Kyle on video would face any charges?
I delete everything you write because your counter narrative is not intended to persuade, inform, or to communicate, but merely to distract us and disrupt our narrative. It is like blaring random noise through a loudspeaker to silence enemy speakers. No real communication is intended.
Our narrative is widely known. You know it, and you are trying to push Soros’s counter narrative, which is intended to derail our narrative.
What specific thing did Soros in particular do that ensured that the people who attempted to murder Kyle and others would face no charges?
(((Angelina Gabriele))) is the assistant DA that signed the complaint against Rittenhouse and not the others. Two died both of them jews. The black could have been charged with assault but because he is black… The lefty they may have felt sorry for.
Soros could have been involved through phone calls or money but I can’t find anything.
Rather than keep asking me, just tell me because I don’t know. Why can’t you tell me the Soros connection? Are you the Soros shill? To Soros is just another cancerous jew worm. Whenever you search to the bottom of any of societal filth, you find a little jew, blinded by the sudden light like a maggot in a rotting corpse. Soros is one of many maggots.
Letting this through, because I want to reply to it, rather than just silence it. It still merely an attempt to derail our narrative, not a genuine narrative.
If you cannot find the Soros connection to the DA – well it is not just our narrative. Our narrative on this matter is in the Washington times, in other places.
That you supposedly cannot find this narrative is not because you do not know it, it is because Soros has instructed you to derail conversations about it.
I see that now Jim. Looks like Soros bankrolled the campaigns of several major city prosecutors and now he owns them. Crime is rampant and it also explains antifa violence.
Hell, this stuff has been reported in the legacy media, never mind the center-right knock-offs. Politico, NY Times and LA Times have all reported on it.
If he can’t spare the 5 seconds to google “soros da” but has hours upon hours to insist that he doesn’t know the connection and there probably is no connection, then definitely, unquestionably a shill for Soros.
He acknowledged it.
With astonishing delay and reluctance.
I suspect he will go right on derailing our narrative with the Soros counter narrative, but if he has been given a loose enough reign that it is possible to engage in conversation, it may not necessarily resemble talking back to one’s television.
It appears the shills are being less tightly controlled that they used to be.
I’ve been seeing similar behavior on reddit. Shills who’d fail basic shill checks(more mild tests on reddit) now pass them in order to spread more misinformation.
Can you locate Soros? Is something else above him?
Soros’s wealth derives from the US taxpayer.
His MO is to bet big on worthless third world debt, and if it goes pear shaped, the World Bank bails it out, thus heads he wins, tails the US taxpayer loses.
He expends this money on activities the State Department wants done – subverting foreign governments, so Soros is a laundry for US government funding of subversive activities against other countries.
This is a pretty common role – the Jew as the supposedly humble servant of the powerful. Undoubtedly Hillary thought she was above him, that he was her servant. Perhaps he thought otherwise, and perhaps he is right.
You can call Soros a kike all day long, as a Demon worshipper can say “Jesus Jesus Jesus” all day long, but are strangely unable to tell us what he did to ensure that men could attempt to murder Kyle in Kenosha on video, and nothing would happen to them.
Hey Jim, I missed that one. Is it more than he just funded the election of the kenosha DA which means that the DA’s simply let antifa do what they want?
Soros and others have been perverting the justice system so that political violence (Senator Paul, Kyle in Kenosha) is legal, but political disagreement is illegal. (General Flynn, Roger Stone, Sheriff Joe)
Which is what led to Pompey becoming dictator, and Caesar eventually marching on Rome.
Soros’s people are disproportionately Jewish, but what they have in common is not that they are Jewish, most of them are not Jewish, but that they are of his faction and on his payroll.
There is a pile more, but that is the biggie.
Extracted from a Soros interview on Covid:
“This is the crisis of my lifetime,†Soros said. “Even before the pandemic hit, I realized that we were in a revolutionary moment where what would be impossible or even inconceivable in normal times had become not only possible, but probably absolutely necessary.”
Revolutionary moment explains massive antifa activity in America and Europe.
But why? Does he just want more money, power, communism? He makes a hobby of devaluing currency to strip nations of political power. Does he mean to genocide Europeans?
Your thoughts Jim?
Trump has said he would leave the White House if electors vote for Biden on Dec 14. I am surprised nobody is talking about this here. It means there is only 2 weeks left. Is there enough time to go to Supreme Court and get a decision within 2 weeks?
He would look stupid reading the Insurection Act after Dec 14 with no support from the Supreme Court.
Let’s see the link to Trump’s declaration.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-trump-idUSKBN2862HC
Here’s a more accurate portrayal of the news conference:
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/11/27/donald-trump-facts-our-side-election-fight-time-isnt/
“As to whether or not I can get this apparatus moving this quickly–because time isn’t on our side…,†Trump said. “Everything else is on our side. Facts are on our side.â€
A reporter asked Trump if he would concede the presidential election if the electoral college voted for former Vice President Joe Biden on December 14.
“It’s going to be a very hard thing to concede because we know there was massive fraud,†he said.
When asked if he would refuse to leave the White House if the electoral college favored Biden, Trump replied, “Certainly, I will, and you know that. But I think that there will be a lot of things happening between now and the 20th of January, a lot of things.â€
Trump did indicate that time is against him. This is worrying.
It makes plain that he was caught by surprise by the vote fraud. No 4D chess there.
He indicated that he will concede if the electoral college elected Biden.
But he also indicated that, for him, the time limit is january 20th, and much can happen until then.
The Electoral College meets on December 14, 2020. However, Congress does not certify the Electoral College vote until January 6, 2021.
Legally – without the insurrection act – Trump has, at most, until january 6.
“It makes plain that he was caught by surprise by the vote fraud.”
It’s possible that he didn’t anticipate certain mechanisms of fraud. If joe schmoe me was not caught by surprise by the levels of fraud, how was President Trump plainly caught by surprise?
Trump did anticipate the election fraud.
And he entrusted the DOJ – CISA with the security of said elections.
But the DOJ – CISA utterly betrayed Trump. And this, he did not anticipate.
Chris Krebs, the former director of CISA, was actually shameless enough to say there was no election fraud, after his betrayal. He was fired by Trump for it; cold confort.
The left’s success was coopting the DOJ/FBI/CIA/three letter agencies in betraying Trump. As can be seen by the utter lack of any meaningful investigation of election fraud by these agencies.
The election fraud itself was very blatant and poorly hidden. But this doesn’t matter, if the agencies with the authority to investigate the fraud have no interest in doing so.
So Trump continued with his plan B – lawyers and courts.
Plan B always sucks, is always uncertain. See, for example, this setback:
https://twitter.com/JennaEllisEsq/status/1332380180065738754?s=20
Trump lawyered up for this fraud well in advance, and the cases were prepared in outline, and without the evidence, before the crimes happened.
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/trump-says-he-will-leave-white-house-if-biden-wins-electoral-college-despite-rigged
A video was definitely there earlier, I did not watch or save it, might have been unrelated. They replaced it with a video about “Mona Lisa effect” now and updated with the latest tweet.
Was not a declaration, just a private press conference. So the press could just have made it up, like the stuff about Melania wanting to go to Slovenia and similar fake news.
So the press could just have made it up
I have just seen it on TV. He said it, he said he would leave. But he also said a lot of things will be happening between now and Jan 20. I feel better now.
OK, looks like it was real after all. Not that bad of course, because it does not change his timeline.
Video: https://youtu.be/y9RRjk2PZIA
32:08
And if the electors are not lawfully selected by the state legislatures? He doesn’t need to cuck to false electors because he said he would leave if he was voted out.
They twisted things to get the headline. One person asks him if he will concede if EC votes for Biden (on Dec. 14th); he doesn’t answer (says, basically, that the EC would be making a big mistake if they did that because this was a fake election). Next person asks, “Will you leave the White House if Joe Biden is inaugurated?” And he says, basically, “yes, of course; you know I would, but a lot can happen between now and January 20th.”
Headline: “Trump will concede if Biden wins EC on Dec. 14th.”
It’s just a rhetorical tweet, but Scott Adams would probably approve of the reframing:
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1332352538855747584?s=20
Paraphrase: “If Biden wants to get to the White House he’ll have to prove his 80 million votes are legitimate” (shifts burden from current mainstream consensus that Trump has to prove a large amount of fraud, otherwise we accept Biden by default).
And yet, the religion that Constantine brought to the Roman empire was not even legitimate Christianity — it was the Roman Empire masquerading as Christianity. It is still like that today: whenever you hear or read the word “Pope” you should mentally translate it to “Caesar”.
Jim, any take on why ancient Egypt collapsed?
Same as the rest of the Bronze age civilizations. Moral decay, and failure of the elite to reproduce.
The wrath of Gnon.
Thanks jim, this is extremely good read.
So some conflicting info on the Rudy appeal decision today. One seemingly reputable lawyer account saying it reaching SCOTUS after this decision is low, yet the Trump attorney’s don’t seem worried. Not sure who to believe.
https://twitter.com/willchamberlain/status/1332396462458671113?s=20
https://twitter.com/JennaEllisEsq/status/1332380180065738754?s=20
Will Chamberlain’s comments make sense from a status-quo frame, on the assumption that the now conservative-majority Supreme Court will legalfag its way out of the case. Technically, “legally”, higher courts are only supposed to rule on questions of law, and leave the findings of fact from lower courts intact. So, his conclusion is logical.
Logical, but not necessarily correct. The left has never once respected this legal principle when it conflicts with its own interests, and the recent 5-4 decision in favor of Trump (with Roberts dissenting) suggests that ACB, whatever else she may be, is aware that the Supreme Court itself is at risk if they refuse to take on these cases, and so do the other conservatives. SCOTUS is not currently bound by any higher authority and does not have to legalfag; the liberal majority certainly would not hesitate to step in.
Will would probably also say that it is without precedent for state legislatures to refuse to certify the election result, that they would have no reason to do such a thing, and yet they have done so in Michigan and now Pennsylvania (or at least are signaling that way in PA) in response to the judicial misconduct.
I don’t think anyone can know for certain what’s going to happen. There are just too many variables. In a crisis situation with high stakes, we should expect to see many rules being bent or broken, principles and unprincipled exceptions, shifting loyalties, novel interpretations, unusual strategies, etc. – and we are seeing pretty much all of those things. We know what the outcome needs to be, but no one knows what it will be.
This is a replay of the last days of the Roman Republic, after the judicial system stopped going after political violence and instead went after political disagreement, and the elections were all blatantly rigged.
No one was in charge, and no one could predict what would happen, except to expect the unexpected. The chaos went on for a very long time with the ever continuing ever deluded expectation of normalcy being violated in ever greater ways, eventually leading to civil war, then civil wars, culminating in prolonged total civil war, with surprise people being leaders in the civil wars, surprise alliances, and surprise breaking of alliances.
As I said:Today in America it is the year in Rome fifty eight years before Christ.
Expect the unexpected, and do not succumb to normalcy bias. Many good Romans, most of the best Romans, died of normalcy bias. In these times, apt to be fatal.
I certainly hope Trump gets a favorable decision from SCOTUS, but my current guess is that an unfavorable SCOTUS decision of some kind is more likely than no SCOTUS decision on election matters prior to Jan. 20th. The Supremes are politicians, and refusing to weigh in at all at a time like this makes them look weak and irrelevant.
Recent leftist local government defiance of SCOTUS orders they don’t like (with PA vote counting chain of custody and Cuomo defying muh Covid) makes it more likely they back Trump.
SCOTUS will have no authority if Biden gets in.
The Court decision is probably moot….The PA House and Senate have now drafted Resolutions taking back the Legislature’s exclusive Constitutional power over the selection of Electors from the SOS and Governor, finding that the election is disputed due to obvious and serious irregularities, and obviously preparing to name electors itself if necessary…House Resolution is here…https://www.legis.state.pa.us/cfdocs/Legis/CSM/showMemoPublic.cfm?chamber=H&SPick=20190&cosponId=32628&mobile_choice=suppress
Senator Mastriano appears to be a driving force behind these developments..and has been banned by Twitter…
This resolution does not in itself do anything.
It will be ignored.
It is not the resolution we need, which would be to reject the election of electors, and appoint them itself.
We are in deep shit.
It is a very strong step in that direction though, no?
I was thinking more along the lines of rounding up evildoers and killing them, which is how Pompey finally had to sort things out. And as soon as he stopped doing that, chaos resumed.
This looks awfully like no end of very strong steps taken by the Roman Senate, which had absolutely no effect on events.
You need Generals to do what Pompey did.
Jim, so in your opinion, Trump should have already declared the Insurrection Act and that each day he doesn’t do so is furthering that mistake?
I think Fuentes is right here:
https://youtu.be/vDM8mX94gMk
I think a great many Republican legislators are currently in that sort of situation where they know that, if they all charge together, they will probably win, but if some charge and others run, they will all be crushed, starting with those who charged. Or they can flee en masse and maybe live to fight another day (or so they think).
I think this is Pennsylvania legislators saying not what is necessary, which is “CHARGE!!!” but rather “…charge?” It’s not a signal to flee, but it’s not enough to get the job done. It is, however, a testing of the waters that could be a prelude to “CHARGE!!!” depending on how others, including Trump, react to “…charge?”
Besides becoming antifa public enemy number two after Trump, another challenge facing any legislator or judge who’s first to yell “CHARGE!!!” is the almost certain knowledge it will spark, at best, an antifa riot, at worst a civil war. That is a highly predictable reaction to any news that substantively turns things in Trump’s favor. That, also, makes it a scary thing to do, even if assured of success.
I think the key piece of info. we are all lacking right now is the nature of what Trump’s been doing all this time he hasn’t been rallying and otherwise fighting in the court of public opinion. If he’s been gathering allies around him and purging the disloyal so he knows he’ll be relatively safe when he does what has to be done, great. If he’s been planning the details of his asylum arrangement with Monaco, not so great. If he thinks it’s more important to focus on lawfare and the appearance of working within the usual channels for the time being, but is now planning to pivot to focusing on the court of public opinion… okay? Maybe good? I’m not the 4-d chessmaster.
Well, you have to talk about charging before you charge, but the experience of the Roman Republic was that at some point you have to actually charge, and, having charged, fought, and won, you are still in deep shit. People kept prematurely declaring “OK, victory, now let us return to regular legality, law, and democracy – only to discover that what they had returned to was not regular legality, law, and democracy.
People have a hard time grasping that once a civic institution gets burned down that it doesn’t return anytime soon. It takes a great deal of effort to create and maintain such institutions and once gone it’s even more effort to recreate it.
We’ve been watching the left burn social capital left and right and the bonfires are growing in size and intensity.
Meanwhile, back at the Judicial branch, further actions on PA certification are enjoined on Constitutional grounds, with a gutsy opinion….http://voxday.blogspot.com/
“I think a great many Republican legislators are currently in that sort of situation where they know that, if they all charge together, they will probably win, but if some charge and others run, they will all be crushed, starting with those who charged.”
Sounds like the Byzantine Generals Problem
Rudy said on Bannon’s show that the state legislature’s don’t want to be the first to flip electors, but they’ll be the 2nd if they know Trump will win. He thinks either all 4-5 states send election Trump electors or none do. Hopefully the Colonel leads everyone to follow.
Republicans legislators are understandably looking for strength in numbers given the likely penalties from either their base or a hostile Biden administration for backing the wrong side…
These Resolutions, and the Senate Resolution is even more strongly worded, must be passed to be effective, followed by naming Trump electors, or no electors…That could, of course, cause a battle of rival electors similar to the election of 1876, to be sorted out by SCOTUS or a civil war…Both of which would be far superior to what we would have otherwise.
Yes so what likely happens, according to Rudy, if the state legislatures send their own electors is Biden takes the states/Trump to SCOTUS to prevent it. Regardless of the ruling the Dems would still send their fake electors anyway and there would be two electoral collages, assuming SCOTUS rules for Trump. The House would vote for the fake one and Senate the real one, giving Trump victory.
It could be clearer worde, but it does say that the selcetion of electors is in dispute.
So Biden’s electors show up and intend to ignore the resolution. Then Trump can use this resolution and say, no these electors don’t count. There is a resolution that declares a dispote.
What am I missing? Ignoring the resolution does not resolve the dispute.
More from Mastriano:
https://twitter.com/SenMastriano/status/1332666953350205441?s=20
Parthia was the stronger faction, as China is today.
But where is Parthia now?
Why?
That they executed the general who inflicted a decisive defeat on Rome and was in a position to take Rome’s eastern empire tells us why.
This is one of the big disadvantages of one man rule (especially of the kind that has prevailed in the East) that the monarch sometimes needs to get rid of anyone who gets too popular and this tends to encourage a certain mediocrity.
In the English style monarchy it was less of a problem as a certain traditional respect for the rights of Englishmen was supposed to restrain the monarch and theoretically the hereditary principle was stricter (in Eastern kingdoms and the Roman Empire after Nero anyone could kind of seize the throne whereas in England only people in the royal family could really seize direct power, though Henry VII was a pseudo exception).
This happened in USSR. And not just in Central Committee, but on fairly low levels; A.Zinovyev described it as “anybody who shows a shred of talent won’t be allowed much of a career, including talent in careerism”.
So no, descend into mediocrity and then decrease in standards applies to any rotten hierarchy.
There’s nothing about it that requires one man rule. Also, “one man rule” is a fairy tale, or at best an abstraction. No man can rule alone. If formally he does, this only makes the real ways in and out less visible without making them any less powerful de facto — for one, GIGO and creative interpretation of orders will not disappear in thin air.
That’s why if someone just pushes and kicks hard enough, the whole rotten structure of the western elites will fall down never to rise again.
This is exactly what will happen, utter collapse.
But what steps in to its place will be worse than before.
That will last just a few years.
Then the real elite will take over for good.
The western elites don’t have a one man rule (incompatible with their religion of course), but a similar phenomenon has developed because they are so stupid they fear those who see through their arguments. See James Damore. Or even this ugly hippie chick here who used to be leftist, now is still leftist on anything but immigration and who they are calling a terrorist:
https://fmshooter.com/german-feminist-sjw-rebecca-sommer-reveals-late-germany-announces-plans-emigrate-migrant-free-poland/
I think on some level they know they are going to die, but they are determined to take us with it.
Imagine if Belisarius had been allowed to win
Parthia didn’t just miss this chance, it became a racially generate backwater for two thousand years.
The Parthians had basically an oligarchy of seven noble houses, which persisted after the Sassanids took over. Mani was of the Parthian Arsacid royal line, by the way. When Islam began and threatened Sassanid Persia, the Parthian noble clans went over to the Muslims and they overthrew the Persian Empire (some researchers are suggesting now that the Parthians actually all but invented later Islam, and were the root of the later Muslim Ummayad and Abbasid dynasties)
I think they are overestimating the arsacids. They dominated the war on horseback, but they were not jokingly handling siege warfare at the level of the Romans. Not counting the demographic difference and its different forms of organization (Parthia had a system similar to the feudal one, with its advantages and defects). Much more powerful were the Sasanids, with a centralized state, a decent infantry and a good command of siege techniques. But even they could not expel Eastern Rome from the Middle East.
Interesting.
https://twitter.com/SenMastriano/status/1332666825490968578
And apparently this comes after a visit to the White House about which they’ve declined to comment?
https://www.yorkdispatch.com/story/news/2020/11/27/pa-lawmakers-go-silent-after-trump-summons-them-white-house/6436989002/
Apparently as of 5pm Monday this senate has no power, since they have to be certified themselves, and that will be blocked. Something along those lines. They’re under extreme time pressure if that is true.
Also in PA, I just heard a woman on Bannon’s show, who was a witness to fraud and is one of the affidavits. Apparently the AG sent agents to her house to “discuss” voter fraud with her. i.e. intimidate her. Bannon didn’t really ask much more about it, which is weird. He’s also acting unusually blackpilled.
Don’t know what you’re trying to say with PA or why you’re being depressive. The news this weekend is actually fairly good.
Yes, the Third Circuit fraud case went nowhere (and I’m sure it will be appealed to SCOTUS anyway) but the constitutional case looks to have succeeded. Decision here: https://legalinsurrection.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/Kelly-v.-Pennsylvania-Injunction-Halting-Certification-Memorandum-Opinion-Filed-11-27-2020.pdf
Essentially affirming that the state legislature does in fact have cause to select its own electors because, regardless of whether or not fraud is proven, the election followed an unconstitutional process.
So we pretty much have MI and PA back, and I wouldn’t be surprised if GA and NV follow. AZ is a bit of a wild card but not technically needed in the EC anyway.
Now, I have no doubt that Democrats will ignore the courts and/or state legislatures and send their own delegations anyway, and there will be competing delegations from these states, and they will threaten the Republican delegations, and so on, such that use of force will be required, but that’s an optimal time to invoke the Insurrection act – if Trump is legally and constitutionally the winner but Democrats are in open rebellion.
This is also exactly when the turning point in Bush v. Gore came about, in terms of timing: https://twitter.com/Barnes_Law/status/1332445102300561408?s=20
So, chill out for a couple of days, don’t listen to shills, and don’t read too heavily into lower-level court decisions. To me, next week is when the real fun actually starts.
Based on his behavior so far, Trump wants to bring the evidence of massive vote fraud in the open. The court of public opinion, so to say.
He has no illusions that the left is either interested in making a deal with him – along the line of ~’we’ll hide the massive fraud fraud in exchange for Biden conceding’.
Indeed, his actions – confronting the left, instead of cucking – enrage the left. Trump knows this. Perhaps that’s the point, in part. It’s hard for the left to hide its agenda in the best of times.
Trump has no illusions about the left being interested, or able in making a deal with him along the lines of ~’you concede and we’ll let you alone’.
Trump pursues a legal strategy with the courts – a major setback just occurred with the Pennsylvania Court of Appeal dismissal (so much for impartial republican appointed judges).
We’ll see about the SCOTUS.
He also pursues a strategy with the legislatures – which goes well with the PA legislature, so far.
The left strives to maintain the appearance of normality until january 20th – it should lead to Biden being elected. But if any setbacks occur, it will not hesitate to blatantly break the rules again. Indeed, it already does do – no FBI/DOJ/etc investigations of note in the election fraud, for example. The mainstream media covering everything up.
Does Trump considers invoking the insurrection act? I think so. He named loyalists in the Pentagon, put the special forces under their direct command, etc.
But, while he may not need the congress or SCOTUS to invoke the act, he does need support – army, three letter agencies; muscle. How much of the three letter agencies will support him? How much of the army? This is what is troubling him.
And the left gets a vote, too. How much support does it have? The FBI, CIA certainly.
It’s quite shocking that the CIA supports Biden, a candidate bought by China. I’m sure that, if elected, his price will increase.
How many of the GOP are ready to cuck? How many of the corrupt ruling class are ready to openly support it, stupidly believing this would be a return to business as usual?
So – we should expect any move Trump makes that could turn the tide in his favor to be followed by massive reaction from the left.
Probably the FBI/DOJ/etc will issue an arrest warrant for him for much less than invoking the insurrection act. If and when that happens, will there be loyalists to protect him, or will he be thrown in jail?
If the GOP suspects the chance of the latter is significant – more than 50% – the GOP, or at least most of the party, will almost certainly abandon Trump.
I think Trump knows this; that’s why I think he will not invoke the insurrection act if he can’t gather enough forces on his side to make clear he will win.
Yeah, but how many do you think he needs? Invoking the Act seems like it could be rationalized as a legal order _so that_ the rights of the people of PA, MI, WI, GA are preserved through the mechanism of… well, what? Insisting that the legislatures select electors consistent with the will of the people before it was perverted?
Ok. Does the GA legislature agree to select the Republican electors for the college? If they do, they will be physically unsafe because the State has its preference, requiring an escalating level of violence. He’d have to all out the local militias to protect the state legislators, which would likely result in shooting between the militia and somebody – cops, maybe, or else Antifa agents. Perhaps I repeat myself.
So I think the real question is: if he were to invoke the Act, under what circumstances would the state legislators send Republican Electors to the College? His personal protections can be assured with just a few hundred loyalist troops.
The single biggest advantage the left enjoys the religious fervor of its operatives. Leftist judges have no problem ignoring the laws to give favorable verdicts, etc.
The second biggest, the corrupt and decadent “elite”, which thinks installing Biden will mean a return to the corrupt business as usual, and not to marxist revolution.
The single biggest disadvantage of the right is the lack of any strong creed among its members. Rightist judges will many times dismiss cases, cucking due to fear, corruption or simply because they don’t want to get involved in the game of kings; any favorable verdict they give will be heavily supported by law, etc.
You see how problematic getting an audit is.
Or getting the courts to give some verdicts in accordance with the blatant fraud.
Or getting the state legislatures on Trump’s side. Like herding cats.
Not a single contested state flipped red, so far. And we’re running out of time.
SCOTUS? We don’t even know if Trump’s cases will get there in time; and we don’t know what verdict SCOTUS would give if the cases get there. It may well decide against Trump, due to normalcy bias combined with the usual incentives.
Expecting the SCOTUS to give him THREE STATES – in effect the presidency, is quite a tall order. I don’t think that’s in the cards.
At most, SCOTUS will would give Trump some legitimacy for invoking the insurrection act. At the very most.
In my opinion, at present, Trump’s only chance is invoking the insurrection act.
The easiest way would be to invoke it in order to perform audits of the votes in the contested states – in order to preserve the will of the voters.
But invoking the insurrection act is easy; making it stick, much more difficult.
How many would enforce his declaration, as opposed to pretending they didn’t hear the insurrection act declaration? Much like Barr and the DOJ, who pretends there’s no voter fraud, no crisis, acting as if these are just some placid days at the office?
What I never understood is why every non leftist doesn’t want to genocide all the religious adherents at this point…
How can you not be one of them and NOT hate them with a passion.
Normalcy bias. They have their families, their careers to occupy them.
I expect most think the left is not so dangerous; just another political party.
The rest know about the left’s penchant for violence; they hesitate to fight it, fearing the consequences for their safety, their families, career.
Very few suspect the carnage that the next iteration of the holiness spiraled left has in mind if it gains power.
I’ve worked hard to warn family of what’s coming, got them armed up, worked out basic escape plans, but people just can’t feel something as real that’s they’ve never witnessed.
>I expect most think the left is not so dangerous; just another political party.
It’s much worse than that. Joe Normalfag, in his heart of hearts, truly believes that crazy Leftists are better people than he is. The great NPC masses see the insane far Left the same way that medieval peasants saw religious hermits and mendicant friars: they’re very impractical, and a little crazy, but they’re living a life blessed by God. The peasant isn’t about to give away all his belongings and live on top of a pillar, but he respects the mad holyman who does, and he believes the holyman is living a purer life than he is because the holyman’s faith and will are stronger than his. Similarly, the normalfag isn’t about to quit his job and become an “activist,” but he knows the activists are the good guys, fighting racism and building a more just, equitable, and sustainable world by making sacrifices that the normalfag can’t bring himself to make.
All Westerners have been mainlining Leftist propaganda for our whole lives. Friends, To Kill a Mockingbird, Marvel, Will and Grace – we learn their lessons and we internalize their values.
Jeffrey Dahmer wanted very badly to tell the world that, despite being a serial killer cannibal pervert, he wasn’t a racist.
Most people believe Jimmy Carter is a better person in terms of personal conduct than they are.
Most people notice that 99.9% of leftists aren’t like Jimmy Carter.
One big factor is association with Hitler and Nazism. Hitler was the best thing that ever happened to the left. Why do you think the Soros shills always sell the hate the (((joos))) narrative?
They engineered school education to ‘killing people the left does not want you to kill = Nazism’ in a way that’s hard to shake.
That’s why Trump is so great, pro-Israeli, not a shred of nazi in him.
Absolutely, if it were up to me part of my vastly expanded treason law would include
Section X: Denying that Adolf Hitler was a leftist.
>That’s why Trump is so great, pro-Israeli, not a shred of nazi in him.
Yeah, that really worked out well: nobody ever called Trump a Nazi.
The left calls him that, although I don’t see their cries of Nazism being very effective.
I can’t honestly say that being pro-Israel has had any reward for Trump; maybe it helped win over some neocons although I doubt it. However, what I think is commendable is that he’s been doing it almost entirely using diplomatic rather than military means, and actually bringing America out of the middle east or at least trying to. His goal is clearly to help create some stability in the region, not by blowing half of it up and installing puppet governments, but by relying on the legitimate governments in most of the regions.
The fact that he’s been able to do that and not lose any face with the pro-Israel warhawks who always seems to be crying for blood, is pretty impressive. Maybe he made enemies of the neocon politicians and pundits, but was able to keep the loyalty of their constituents.
Pro-israel is good on two levels:
– It makes crying ‘Nazi, Nazi’ sound ridiculous to normies as you said. Some leftists call Netanyahu a Nazi too, generally with zero effect. They attack Orban for being anti-Semitic (because anti-Soros) and that tends to stick better with normies. But nobody can call Trump an anti-Semite.
– It discredits the narrative that the US does all its wars in the middle east ‘for Israel’.
Indeed, and if we can show that democrats are the real racists, we can become immune to slanderous accusations of not valuing the self-esteem of melanin enhanced folk as well.
When you do it ironically it even works. Remember the first Biden debate (I think it was the first) when Trump said “I’m the least racist person here” and people laughed? And then he moved on? This is rhetoric, nothing is absolute.
This isn’t about appeasing the left, it’s about getting through to normies.
https://babylonbee.com/news/success-this-christian-is-now-completely-indistinguishable-from-the-culture-hes-trying-to-reach
Until about 2000, and mostly until 2008, Trump did nothing but blend in. Did not hurt him.
What’s the possible advantage of Trump signalling as a Nazi? The few unironic Nazis there are voted for him anyway.
There are no such thing as Nazis anymore. They went extinct a while ago.
He didn’t make any effort to counter-signal trappings of mid-twentieth century integralist movements either. Which goes a long way really.
Milksop conservakin who subject themselves to being ‘interviewed’ by the synagogue of satan (‘thanks for having me on today john, im just happy to be here’) fall into this trap all the time; getting pressed into becoming one of the most important parts of the salami slicer cutting out increasingly significant sub-sets of the population of civilized folk by ‘disavowing’ x y or z elements whenever prompted, one day to the next day.
When journalist cutout props tried to prompt Trump to do the same thing – ‘prove to us that you are respectable enough to be a member of the establishment (as defined by us) by disavowing these evil racists’ – Trump said, ‘good people on both sides’. That’s rock solid frame.
Not a perfectly premeditated soul cutting shiv or anything like that, but what it does do is demonstrate good instincts when put on the spot, of never giving the impression that your enemies are the people you need to qualify yourself towards, which is above all the most important part. He demonstrated that in that exchange in the live theater as well; signaling a rejection of their standard for defining a word and replacing it with his own.
One of the most significant features of a shill is that *they can’t actually explain why it is that they dislike what it is they say they dislike*; or when they do start trying to explain, the words they put together would rather curiously imply the opposite impression of whatever it is they ostensibly profess. A soros shill can say ‘hail fellow rightwinger, i also hate jews, in fact i hate them twice as much as you do, for half as much reason’ all day, but can’t actually ‘name the jew’ (ie, soros), nor describe the things he does that would quite rationally lead one to the conclusion that he and others of like ilk should be physically removed from (a europoid) society.
An uncritical reflex of ‘well if someone i know is a shill says he hates X, that must mean i should not be bothered by X’, just means one can get you both coming and going; ‘i wouldnt want my opinions to be associated with low status people; guess ill just have to start signaling something else’.
In most species of dire ape, the feeling of ‘other people might not like this’, and the feeling of ‘i do not like this’, are almost identical, phenomenologically speaking.
I interpreted ‘good people on both sides’ as Trump saying that there were genuine alt-righters and Trumpists on one side, alongside Nazi-signalling provocateurs, and genuine naive leftists alongside protesters and rioters on Soros’s payroll.
Meaning, not everyone was ‘good’, but there did exist ‘good’ people on both sides. Actually a bit weak if you ask me, but he can’t really denounce leftists openly, or couldn’t in 2017.
He did not denounce the fake Nazis explicitly either, but he did implicitly, by leaving open who the ‘good’ people are. The media interpreted him as defending Nazis anyway. So he dog-whistled to his followers and the more redpilled normies: ‘Look, I don’t really like those fake and gay provocateurs’. But the media took the bait and went with the Trump = Nazi story. Journos ask these questions all the time, so he probably had an answer prepared and it wasn’t quite on the spot.
In other words, he used Charlottesville to delegitimize “Trump = Nazi” AND the lamestream media at once by baiting them. This goes far beyond frame control.
I don’t care what apes do in this case, Trump is capable of manipulating these ape-like instincts.
The problem is, there is both an opinion and an aesthetic. The opinion is ‘the leftist elite should be killed’. The aesthetic is swastikas and SS uniforms. In the mind of normies, this opinion is flanked by the aforementioned aesthetic and no end of additional opinions, such as ‘the jews should be gassed’, ‘we should attack Poland’ or ‘Autobahns are great’, whether true or not. And it is tainted by the deathly stigma of ‘loser’, both in a social sense and in the sense of losing WW2.
Divorcing ‘the leftist elite should be killed’ from the other opinions is much easier if you do not signal the aesthetic or any of the other opinions. This deconditions the normies from thinking of them in tandem. Soros wants this conditioning to stay, because then it’s very easy for him to say: ‘I am just funding the brave fighters for our democracy against those backwards Nazis’. And many more people will agree, because Nazis are losers.
Again, is there any advantage in signalling the Nazi memeplex? I truly don’t get it. You seem to be arguing for signalling the Nazi memplex, while using arguments that are only against countersignalling it (openly), which I actually agree with. Don’t signal or countersignal openly.
“Divorcing ‘the leftist elite should be killed’ from the other opinions is much easier if you do not signal the aesthetic or any of the other opinions.”
Not just the elite. Its a priesthood of all believers.
Eh, Trump was pretty quick to clarify that “good people on both sides” did not include the tiki torch crew, even if we may think that it should have and even if the media refused to air his clarification for two (three?) solid years.
I kind of don’t care, and he absolutely should not have accepted the media’s “prove you’re not a Nazi” frame, but I don’t think Trump actually ever really intentionally signaled in favor of what a cuckservative or moderate might consider to be Nazism or “white supremacy”. The media just always tried to spin it that way, and he correctly refused to accept their framing, so he rather unintentionally and indirectly signaled in their favor.
A big reason not to countersignal is shills; they can pick any target they want, send in their shills, and demand that you disavow the people whom the shills are actually attacking. In a high-trust society, maybe you’d want to clear up the misunderstanding, but when it’s obvious misrepresentation and shilling rather than misunderstanding, not advantageous to try to clear anything up.
I was arguing against countersignaling it, and you were countersignaling it, so that’s why i disagreed with you.
Evidently, you also count amongst the population of humans on this earth, given the equivocation of demographic appeal for desired principle(s).
Anyways, you shifted the discussion mid-twentieth century integralist movements, but the real payload i was responding too was attitudes regarding eurasian tribesmen. ‘We can beat the lieberals if we can buy off their coalition of fringes even harder than they do’ is one of the eternal failure-modes that typify late twentieth century center-right types. You’re never going to win that game and be Right at the same time, so framing the point in those terms all but always becomes an exploitable port in one’s ideological firewall.
That the only reward Far would actually get in the end for playing along with Near in the game of leftism to destroy other Near, is also destruction; that there would in fact be no promised reward, destruction also *because* of the promises of reward, is really almost besides the point. It’s about whose more willing to make more outrageous claims than the next guy, and the guy promising ‘reasonably circumspect amounts of plunder with regards to maintaining the structure for production of plunder’ is always gonna lose the pulpit to the guy promising ‘lets get *all* teh plunder’.
A being’s sense of aesthetics is their steering for their course through Being; which can be more or less in coherence with they ways of Being. The pertinence then; if shifting one’s rhetoric in order to be more adaptive with regards to persons less coherent, *you become less so coherent*, as like illustrated in the meme article earlier.
A man of certain extraction, cannot profess himself to be towards the greatest of advantage for some other extraction(s) – ‘what is best for the XYZs’ – without in due course making himself an enemy of other’s of his extraction, as a natural prerequisite of such a cardinality. You could call it the essence of cuckservatism even; even if they wanted to profess natural law, which are the ways of power, which are the ways of God, they can only ever do so through the frame of how it might be beneficial for some other group of folk, never in terms of how they themselves, their own folk can and or should benefit. ‘We know the right way to do things for having nice things, so if rainbow people want nice things, we just have to get them to listen to us and vote for us to rule over them’.
Really that dynamic goes all the way around. In any given society, an alien clade may each and all have their own unique characteristics that may produce unique flavors with regards to the kinds of problems they may cause, eskimos being no exception, and i think it can certainly be an interesting discussion to consider the genesis of those particular characteristics (eg, that for much of history over the past couple millennia, they have existed *on* civilizations, already made and supported by some other folk, and hence, have been disproportionately selected in particular for modes of behavior that tend to become more adaptive in a larger population in general in more advanced levels of civilization; eg, less of that which produces capital, and more of that which depends on, or facilitates the consumption of capital for more particular advantage; eg, leftism-adjacent behaviors), but like there’s simple levels to this that go beyond particular contingencies as well. A europoid could no more expect a semite to exist for his benefit than a chinaman would.
Basically what im saying is im signaling against signaling against signaling against skypes.
Cominator
Absolutely, I agree. Just mentally substitute it.
Not Tom
If he clarified, that was bad tactics, but inconsequential because the media did not pick up on it. I was still getting my news from MSM at the time so this slipped by me.
Your point about shills is exactly what I’m talking about; trying to manufacture the impression that supporting Trump means gassing Jews, giving grounds for attacking this manufactured ‘coalition’. That’s both why you don’t signal and don’t countersignal Nazism.
Pseudo-chrysostom
Good point, I was countersignalling it. Probably a side effect of having to go full taqiyya in about 50% of situations here where I live. ‘Not a shred of nazi in him’ was dumb and you were right to point that out. I stand by my pro-israel comments though. Trump also signalled pro-India, pro-UK etc. and it should be viewed in that context.
Of course. That’s the essence of the ‘demagogic’ component of the leftist spiral.
One of my best friends is a Jew (that sounds gay, but how else to put it?), and that redpilled me on Jews, don’t worry. I like him, I like Jews in general (just as I like, say, Koreans), but I fully expect him to betray me whenever his ethnic loyalties are in conflict with mine. But in the medium term, I don’t see how they would be.
Thanks for your comments. I have some plans that require great, flawless rightist rhetoric and this helped me a lot.
https://creativedestructionmedia.com/analysis/2020/11/28/report-lt-gen-mcinerney-reports-us-special-forces-attacked-cia-server-farm-in-germany-in-server-seizure-operation-5-soldiers-killed-servers-secured/
“Lt General Thomas McInerney and Lt General Michael Flynn gave interviews to WVW Broadcasting Network today. It was Flynn’s first interview since his pardon.
In stunning testimony, McInerney stated his sources have told him U.S. Army Special Forces, possibly the famed Delta Force, raided the CIA-run server farm in Frankfurt, Germany. 5 soldiers were killed in the ensuing firefight, as well as one CIA paramilitary. The CIA personnel were allegedly flown in from Afghanistan for security, according to reports. (…)”
If true, it could give Trump all the legitimacy he will ever need. But they’re cutting it awfully close.
Holy shit…5 KIA?? There’s got to be other sources if this is true.
I have no problem believing this could be true, given the conspiracies we know about, which is not the same thing as believing it is true.
You sure do post a lot of Qtard links.
Qtards are super annoying.
First Sidney Powell is a qtard for you, now Lt General Thomas McInerney and Lt General Michael Flynn.
it doesn’t take much for you to call people qtards.
Especially considering that you expect a DOJ cavalry to save the day.
I see in this very thread you came with wishful thinking such as “So we pretty much have MI and PA back, and I wouldn’t be surprised if GA and NV follow. AZ is a bit of a wild card but not technically needed in the EC anyway.”
Now you’re just being dishonest and I’m starting to suspect you of being a shill.
Sidney Powell is not likely part of the disinfo, but she got taken in by it, likely due to a desire for publicity, or put her trust in experts that are disinfo agents.
Flynn is a great guy but he has been completely out of the loop since 2017. You think that mere days after his pardon, suddenly he knows about high-level black ops? And if so then what’s with the “possibly” delta force, wouldn’t he know?
Anyway, I didn’t say Flynn was a Qtard, I said you were linking to a Qtard site, which is obviously true given the all caps “Q WAS RIGHT” link at the bottom.
I’m basing my comments on MI and PA on things that have actually happened and are actually happening. You, on the other end, post an endless stream of links to well-known disinfo sites, snatching up every crumb of wishful thinking imaginable despite us having seen zero evidence that any of it is even partly true. Don’t you think that if this magical server existed, we’d be seeing data dumps and court exhibits by now? What could they possibly have to lose by keeping it a secret?
You’re not exercising any critical thinking whatsoever, just continually redirecting the conversation to Qtardery at every opportunity and screeching at critics.
We need a Qtard shill test. What is our opinion on Q? Why are we skeptical of all things in the general Qanon orbit and why do we say it’s enemy propaganda? You can tell us all you want about how you disagree, but if unsupervised, should be able to explain our position first.
I linked to an interview with Lt General Thomas McInerney and Lt General Michael Flynn. You can listen to the recording; you obviously didn’t – you don’t know who came with the server info.
They are far more ‘in the loop’ than us. This goes for Sidney Powell, too.
Also – really, Not Tom? A link at the bottom transforms an interview with Lt General Thomas McInerney and Lt General Michael Flynn into qtard? You are the dishonest one.
“endless stream of links to well-known disinfo sites”
Really? Name one link I posted in this thread that came from a well-known disinfo site.
Your assertion about MI and PA was based on a decision by a Pennsylvania court that was already overturned by the PA Supreme Court.
And how did you ever got ~’MI is ours’ out of that decision?
You attribute wishful thinking to me, Not Tom; you may want to examine your own critical thinking skills.
And yes, qanon propaganda is harmful because it invariably assumes the battle is already won behind the scenes. And all you have to do is ‘enjoy the show’.
Much like your assertion that we “pretty much have MI and PA back, and I wouldn’t be surprised if GA and NV follow.”
Or that a DOJ cavalry is still a serious possibility.
BTW, it’s far more probable that that ‘magical’ server exists despite the public not seeing data from it, than that a DOJ cavalry is incoming – despite total silence from Barr, and total lack of action, 4 weeks after the election.
We’re in the fog of war now hard to tell exactly what’s going on don’t bicker about it too much.
Yeah there’s just a lot of rumors and misinformation going around on both sides. Some of them may or may not turn out to be true but best to just wait until things play out a bit more.
Obviously I didn’t watch the whole hour-long video. That’s a gigantic waste of time, it’s literally 100x more inefficient than text. I’ve previously stated that I will not watch random videos, the list of people I’m willing to watch for more than 2 minutes spans less than 5 entries (offhand, I can only think of Styx and Barnes, and I still skip 80-90% of their content).
MI refused to certify the result. How the fuck did you miss that? It was discussed at length here, with the Republicans refusing, then certifying under duress, then un-certifying. Trump dropped the case there because they “already had the relief sought”.
And when did I say anything about a “DOJ Cavalry”? Again you are being completely dishonest. That’s three times you’ve now attributed a position to me that I’ve never claimed to have.
“Creative destruction media” is Qtard, it’s disinfo. There’s “one link”. Previously you’ve linked to RT (English), “anonpatriotq” on Twitter, that “Sic Semper Tyrannis” blog, Gateway Pundit repeatedly, Vox Day’s Qtard posts (not his normal ones, only the silly ones), a bunch of random Twitter accounts, the list goes on. You’re excessively negative about everything that Trump and Trump allies are doing, writing black-pilled posts a thousand words long, only to subsequently go “oh but here’s some good news” and then point to some new non-development in the Qtard magic Dominion server narrative.
Maybe you aren’t a literal shill. But you don’t understand how to weigh evidence, how to apply logic and figure out which facts are important and which are either false, misleading or part of a distraction. It’s people who can’t or won’t filter that cause substantial parts of the right to keep going down these endless rabbit holes and lose out of confusion and disorder.
The Dominion/server case just doesn’t make any goddamn sense, we know how votes were manipulated in the 6 major counties and it did not involve nor require any “algorithms”, and there is very unlikely to be any evidence that votes were manipulated in other counties where Trump won by huge margins. That entire narrative is only even plausible if you completely close your eyes to the county-level results, the printouts from the machines, the limited locales where this software is actually used, and literally everything else about the entire stupid idea. It’s a non-story that keeps trapping good people in its orbit, and whether intentionally or unintentionally you’re doing the same thing here. Just stop already.
“MI refused to certify the result. How the fuck did you miss that? It was discussed at length here, with the Republicans refusing, then certifying under duress, then un-certifying. Trump dropped the case there because they “already had the relief soughtâ€.”
You obviously missed the part where, after uncertifying, the results were certified. 3 votes for, one absent.
“And when did I say anything about a “DOJ Cavalryâ€? Again you are being completely dishonest.”
You prattled about it in Jim’s previous posts, as you well know. For example:
https://blog.reaction.la/war/the-republic-died-at-2020-11-04t04-05/#comment-2677735
To think you’re calling me dishonest.
“Obviously I didn’t watch the whole hour-long video. That’s a gigantic waste of time, (…)
“Creative destruction media†is Qtard, it’s disinfo. There’s “one linkâ€. Previously you’ve linked to RT (English), “anonpatriotq†(…)”
I see that, for you any site you want to bash is qtard, now. Regardless of the information provided there.
BTW, I asked for links from this thread.
And I see an interview with Lt General Thomas McInerney and Lt General Michael Flynn graduated from being “qtard” to being a waste of time.
Nice critical thinking skils there, Not Tom.
“You’re excessively negative about everything that Trump and Trump allies are doing, writing black-pilled posts a thousand words long, only to subsequently go “oh but here’s some good news†and then point to some new non-development in the Qtard magic Dominion server narrative.”
Not Tom, now I am both blackpilled and a qtard? You do know these are contradictory statements, yes?
“Maybe you aren’t a literal shill. But you don’t understand how to weigh evidence (…)”
You are actually thinking I am interested in your assessment on my thinking skills?
I already told you: You need to look at your own critical thinking skills.
If true, then yes, I did. When was this and where was it reported?
I have claimed repeatedly, there and everywhere else, that the DoJ is factional and that some factions, such as the faction that dumped evidence on FBI misconduct and was aggressively fighting Emmett Sullivan to try to drop the Flynn case, are either on Trump’s side or neutral. You’ve misrepresented that as me claiming that they’re actively working for Trump on this election, which misrepresentation I can only assume is on purpose because there’s no logical connection between the two.
It’s still you being dishonest here. You refuse to address what we actually say, and instead address what you imagine we might have meant in some alternate universe.
No, those are all confirmed shill sites, except Vox who posts a lot of non-shill stuff that you never mention, only the Q garbage.
And? You don’t make the rules here. Are you saying that you’ve seen the light and realize your error in linking to those other sites, or are you just concocting artificial constraints so you can pretend to be right on some technicality? No, don’t answer that, it’s rhetorical.
First of all, Qtardery is a waste of time, there’s no contradiction and no escalation. Second, again you’re trying to win by name-dropping and not looking at evidence. All you’ve proven is that people high up can be tricked, which we already knew. Who are his sources? If they know what happened, why don’t they know any specifics? It has all the hallmarks of third-hand disinfo, we have no idea where it came from or how many mutations it went through. But none of that matters to you, because Flynn! And another Lt Gen! Did you even know who Thomas McInerney was 8 hours ago? Because I sure didn’t.
No, they aren’t contradictory. I explained, literally in the very post you’re quoting, how the disinfo works. We’ve seen it in action a number of times: discredit any conventional reasons for optimism, insist that everything we’re actually able to see with our own eyes is doom doom doom, there’s no hope in any of that, but there IS hope in this crazy unbelievable thing that none of us can see or verify, but trust us, it’s totally true and it’s going to totally blow this thing wide open! 1800 sealed indictments! 11-D chess! Trust the plan!
That’s disinfo. First demoralize, then use the ensuing weakness and disarray to lead into kookery, and relentlessly attack any serious skepticism. It’s always been a part of the color revolution script. And it’s exactly what you are doing here.
Answer this simple question: if the magical server exists, what useful information could be on it and why hasn’t it been disseminated yet, either in court filings or coordinated leaks? It’s been days – weeks even – since this supposed seizure. So what’s taking so long?
No, because I’m back to assuming you’re a shill, and shills are never interested in anyone else’s assessment.
“When was this and where was it reported?”
It was reported everywhere. Feel free to use the internet for a few seconds.
“(…) again you’re trying to win by name-dropping”
You are actually accusing me of name-dropping? You already ‘forgot’ what you wrote in your last posts.
“All you’ve proven is that people high up can be tricked, which we already knew. Who are his sources? If they know what happened, why don’t they know any specifics?”
So, according to you, Lt General Thomas McInerney and Lt General Michael Flynn were tricked.
But not you, Not Tom. You’re better connected and smarter than them, yes, Not Tom? And entitled to their sources.
“1800 sealed indictments! 11-D chess! Trust the plan!”
And, according to you, I said this anywhere. Very ‘honest’ of you.
Not Tom, talking to you is obviously a waste of time.
Edit_XYZ:
Take the shill test:
What is our position on the woman problem and the woman question?
Jim
My answer:
Every time women are given equal rights to men regarding choice of mate, woman emancipation results, which leads to the destruction of the traditional family and sub-replacement fertility:
Women tend to lose their peak fertile years chasing after alphas and monkey-branching. Only in their 30s, reluctantly, do they try to settle down. They have few, if any, children.
Men lose interest in marriage, because they cannot be patriarchs in their own households, and because of onerous divorce laws. Without wife and children, they tend to lack motivation to achieve more than the strict minimum.
This failure mode took out quite a few civilizations.
It can only be corrected by taking away most of the women’s rights pertaining to the choice of mate, in favor of their families.
Implementing such reforms is a pipe dream at present. But if interesting times arrive, this may change.
I should also add:
Men tend to be attracted by women a few years younger than them, and women, by men a few years older. After a century of sub-replacement fertility, this means there are fewer eligible women than men.
This difficulty is compounded by the fact that, at present, an anomalously large percentage of women are fat and unattractive.
All this means that, all else being equal, women have a greater SMV than men. Which makes such reforms even harder to implement.
I don’t agree with you about lowering the age of consent of women to around 10 years old, though. A minority of girls might be ready to start their sex life at that age; the majority would just be messed up. 15 years is a far better choice.
A curious WRP answer that addresses the technical downstream aspects of aggregate fertility without really touching on female sexuality or concepts of alpha. And not only advocates for an Age of Consent but thinks it should be well into the fertile years. Really more of MGTOW position than a reactionary one.
Don’t know how Jim will interpret the answer, but it does little too allay my own suspicions; follows the same broad pattern of answering without quite answering, addressing the speaker directly but somehow always managing to answer very obliquely or misunderstand the question.
Come on, this milquetoast answer is more like what Tim Pool and other center-left moderates say about women; what do we say? What, in particular, does it mean to be a patriarch in one’s own household, and what do you mean by “onerous” divorce laws? What is the red-pilled position on rape?
Not Tom, is any part of ‘I’m not interested in talking to you any longer’ unclear?
What if I’m not interested in talking to you, will you stop posting about gay ops?
Yeah, that’s what I thought. You don’t make the rules, newfag.
I agree with Not Tom that this appears to be older stuff from Men’s rights or MGTOW, not reactionary content.
When I was 14 I found women in the 16-28 age to be the most attractive, with around 22-24 being peek attractiveness. At 20, I still preferred the same age ranges and 30+ I still do. My preferences have not changed over the years because evolution shaped them to pick women’s peak fertility periods.
Women do not select based on age, rather by pre-selection and alpha characteristics. Anyone who’s read Roassy or been involved in Neo-Reaction should know that.
Finally the issues with lack of women is one of multiple women hooking up with a limited group of Alpha males, something that we pretty obvious to the Game community almost 15 years ago which modern survey’s continue to confirm at 50% of men are not currently involved in a relationship while only 1/3 of women are not currently involved in a relationship.
Not Tom is not wrong
BC
Men are attracted to female beauty and fertility. Women are most beautiful and fertile around 15-15 years old.
Woman are attracted to alpha – aka the man who gets to command in a group, who gets to impose his will on the other members of the group.
Men are most alpha when they have the most resources and power. This is usually around, let’s say, 25-45 years old.
As you see, there is a difference in age.
With sub-replacement fertility, this means that the 15-25 years old women are fewer that the 25-45 years old men.
And yes, at present, the main problem is that most women go after the top alphas, until their 30s.
But even if this problem were resolved, we would not return to the good old days when every man could get a wife, if he was even mediocre.
You are giving us the shill story of woman’s nature, a counternarrative not genuinely intended to communicate or persuade, but to shut down our narrative.
Putting you on moderation until you answer the question: What do we say about women’s nature, the woman question, and the woman problem?
What is the narrative to which your narrative is a counternarrative?
I am happy to debate your narrative and ours, but not with an interlocutor who refuses to acknowledge the narrative he attempts to silence and disrupt. Not going to let you argue, unless you acknowledge what you are arguing against.
It is not a debate, unless you acknowledge your interlocutor’s position and attempt to explain why he is wrong, rather than trying to swerve the discussion onto issues that presuppose that you are right.
What is this nonsense about age? There’s a scarcity of pussy because nearly 100% of women are waiting for booty calls from fewer than 10% of men, not because there are more “peak alpha” men than there are peak fertility women.
“Resources and power” and “command in a group” is the Vox Day/Molyneux/MRA definition of alpha, not ours. You’ve worded it carefully to make it sound a bit more like ours, but it’s not.
Why can’t Jeff Bezos get prime pussy? Dude’s got plenty of resources and power, commands an entire corporate empire. How does that reconcile?
And yes, men may be attracted to women at any post-pubescent age, but no one asked what the men are doing, we asked what the girls are doing, starting at a much earlier age than 15.
“Why can’t Jeff Bezos get prime pussy? Dude’s got plenty of resources and power, commands an entire corporate empire. How does that reconcile?”
In any even slightly more sane society he absolutely could resources + power NORMALLY ARE alpha, but because hes terrified of women raising some kind of legal complaint he acts scared and women’s pussies dry up.
Bezos’ ex-wife recently cucked him; left and took billions of dollars. So much for his power.
If his ex-wife were to suddenly expire – due to an unfortunate accident or suicide, of course – I guarantee Bezos would suddenly become a sex-god for numberless beautiful, fertile young women.
Bezos got caught fucking his 50 year old women who was his friend’s wife. If your idea of leadership of groups and resources was correct he would have gotten caught fucking a 22 year old model or beatify contest winner, not some used up old whore and his wife’s reaction wouldn’t have to been to divorce him. I’m not worth billions and I refuse to fuck women past obvious fertility age.
You would be wrong. Women want to see alpha males perform and quietly ordering an assassination won’t turn other women on. They’d rather fuck the assassin than the man who paid for the assassin.
You’re not a reactionary. Go read Roissy complete archive and come back when you can pass the women test.
Jim
“What do we say about women’s nature, the woman question, and the woman problem?”
Perhaps you’re referring to the women wanting to be owned by alphas and keep coming up with shit tests to ascertain whether a man is an alpha? That they’ll fuck up themselves and their family/job in order to, unconsciously, get an alpha to punish them for misbehavior?
Or perhaps you’re referring to the mating dance during which the women would put themselves in the position to be ‘raped’? And only consider it rape if they perceive they had sex to a beta?
If it’s something else, you’ll simply have to tell me what you’re referring to, Jim. Obviously, I haven’t lurked on this site enough to read about it.
Close.
You acknowledged our narrative.
But when you put the counter narrative, you did not acknowledge the narrative that it countered.
Why is fertility in collapse, according to us. Why do we have dysgenic reproduction? Why do most men have blue balls, and if they marry at all marry used up women nearing the end of their fertility who have ridden a hundred cocks of men handsomer, richer, badder, and more charismatic than their husband? If you think our account is incorrect, contradict it explicitly, rather than commenting as if no one ever proposed it.
What is our cure for failure to reproduce, dysgenic reproduction, and most ordinary men suffering blue balls? Would it work? If not, why not?
Females are breeders, period. All this crap about age of consent is designed for population control.
I don’t need a woman to make my coffee or fry my bacon. I need them to breed. And I don’t want to listen to their bullshit either.
When they’re old enough to get the itch, they’ll sneak out like an ally cat in search of Jeremy Meeks to scratch it. So keep a close eye on em.
Females are also easy to brainwash and watch alot of TV, Shitter, and Faceberg. So they think niggers are cool and alpha.
If they wind up in college, good lord. They’ll come out an antifa slut these days banging their jew professor.
passes, particularly the bit about age of consent.
If you are a shill, your organization has cut you enough slack to allow you to engage in real discussion and debate.
Edits views on the woman question are far far far to the right of what any leftist organizations would allow. The worst you can say about what he says is he is still slightly purple pilled on some issues.
OK, let us debate the purple pill.
The purple pill tends to lead to black pill – the black pill being, among other things, that women are wicked, that there is no wife material out there.
Nah, women are wonderful in their proper sphere. The problem is that they are lost and confused. They look for outlaws and raiders because they perceive themselves surrounded by weak men of a weak tribe.
The purple pill does not contradict the shill narrative, merely mentions thing the shills would rather not be mentioned, without directly contradicting it.
I’d say pretty far off, not slightly. Advocates AOC of 15, won’t address rape, thinks money and formal authority naturally equals female attraction (i.e. without a patriarchy to enforce it), says mate scarcity is due to differing age ranges, etc. Never once mentions preselection, evasive on what a patriarchal marriage should be.
Whatever he actually is, I think he posts far too much in general, and far too much kook in particular, considering he hasn’t established his bona fides and at best sort of squeaks past the shill test. We get other purple-pilled sorts here, and they’re generally alright, because they don’t spam and they’re not uppity. Purple pilled people coming to learn about the red pill and making some mistakes along the way, totally fine; purple-pilled people coming to assert their superiority, whether on the WQ or any other topic, very much not fine.
Last thing we need is a bunch of kinda sorta rightists deciding on which direction to take the conversation. Even if zero of them are genuinely entryists, it’s not good for cohesion. All I’ve even been asking for is for him to tone it down a little bit with the Qanon narrative; even kookanic did not react that badly, he just embraced the kook label.
When we say “ok, let’s have an honest discussion about the plausibility of this theory”, we should not expect responses to the effect of “how dare you question [some asserted authority]”, that’s not how we roll here, especially concerning namefags as sources and newfags as conduits.
Which is very much the shill counter narrative, and fails to acknowledge the PUA narrative, the Dark Enlightenment narrative, and the Dalrock Christian narrative.
Supposedly the reason most men have blue balls is that all the hot chicks are supposedly banging Jeff Bezos and Bill Gates. If only that were true.
Jim
“Why is fertility in collapse, according to us. Why do we have dysgenic reproduction? Why do most men have blue balls, and if they marry at all marry used up women nearing the end of their fertility who have ridden a hundred cocks of men handsomer, richer, badder, and more charismatic than their husband?”
“Supposedly the reason most men have blue balls is that all the hot chicks are supposedly banging Jeff Bezos and Bill Gates. If only that were true.”
Jim, I can only conclude that you skimmed over my previous posts and missed my response.
I already answered why most men have blue balls, as you can see:
https://blog.reaction.la/war/the-fall-of-the-republic/#comment-2678577
“Every time women are given equal rights to men regarding choice of mate, woman emancipation results, which leads to the destruction of the traditional family and sub-replacement fertility:
Women tend to lose their peak fertile years chasing after alphas and monkey-branching. Only in their 30s, reluctantly, do they try to settle down. They have few, if any, children. (…)
This failure mode took out quite a few civilizations.
It can only be corrected by taking away most of the women’s rights pertaining to the choice of mate, in favor of their families.
Implementing such reforms is a pipe dream at present. But if interesting times arrive, this may change.”
As for the age difference between peak SMV women and peak SMV men, this is not the reason most men have blue balls today, as I have previously said:
https://blog.reaction.la/war/the-fall-of-the-republic/#comment-2678605
To be concise, even if reforms are implemented, the families get to choose the mate for the women, and the women cannot chase alphas throughout their 20s any longer, there will still not be enough women for every productive man to marry. This is due to generations of sub-replacement fertility. The situation was reversed when the previous generations had an above-replacement fertility (until ~a century ago).
This problem is compounded by the fact that, at present, an anomalously large percentage of women are fat and unattractive.
OK, purple pilled, but no shill.
I find this hard to believe.
But that could be normalcy bias on my part.
Or it could be susceptibility to enemy disinformation on your part.
One could try to find the KIA listed by the military, but the US is currently engaged in the Afghan War, various skirmishes in the Middle East, SEALs deployed from submerged submarines, and African missions.
I did notice articles two days ago claiming a senior CIA officer was killed in combat, in Somalia.
Not sure I believe this story though. If true, what is the motivation of each side involved to keep it a secret? I guess CIA don’t want people knowing the Frankfurt location is CIA. And Trump, if he did successfully get the servers, needs time for his tech guys (Baron) to go through and find evidence.
If Trump doesn’t want people knowing yet, why are people supposedly loyal to Trump leaking? There’s obviously so much going on behind the scenes its hard to know anything.
Hard to believe that McInerney, a real warfighter with more than 400 missions, is lying…but we don’t know his sources…
I don’t think he’s lying. I think the disinfo is very convincing and well-coordinated.
The people who write these narratives know their targets extremely well. They know their hopes and fears, and perhaps more importantly, know where they’re ignorant and how to stroke their ego. They also know who wants attention.
So they pick someone – someone who is not very well-known but is likely to be considered trustworthy by other people who are well known. Feed them info that will sound plausible to them, usually taking advantage of ignorance in other areas (in this case, ignorance on the specifications, deployment, and competitive landscape of election technology, and quite possibly ignorance of computer technology in general). Make it “explosive” – so that if it IS true, it would be absolutely massive, totally game-changing, and this target would get all kinds of praise and attention if they turn out to be right.
Then, sit back and watch as they relentlessly pressure their friends and allies to pursue it. Occasionally feed them extra little tidbits to keep the narrative alive without actually revealing anything interesting. When the narrative collapses, which it eventually will, the person to take the fall is some nobody, an unknown insider who can be scapegoated easily.
Of course a lot of disinfo bypasses this and goes straight to shilling on chans. But if it’s done professionally, at a high level, this is what it looks like, and can often catch otherwise intelligent and reputable people in the web of lies.
The key indicator is that you never actually see or hear firsthand evidence from any of the people who matter. In fact it’s rarely even secondhand. Usually they heard it from their sources, who are unnamed, who heard it from their sources who are probably enemies or marks.
I will assign one scintilla of credibility to this entire gay op narrative when I see one scintilla of firsthand evidence. None of this friend-of-a-friend, source of a source shit.
I’m with BAP at this point I want to nuke China…
The Democrats aren’t smart enough to do this, not anymore. Obviously if they are smart enough to do this the Chinese are helping them.
China would make more sense because they tend to be smarter than any leftist at this point, but then this type of psychological manipulation smells uniquely American spook to me. Feminine tactics so to speak.
American spooks at this point (ie Brennan) are retards who just repeated muh Russia 1000x times a day for years.
90% its the Chinese helping them plan… it started with this Corona bullshit but it hasn’t stopped.
This appears to be China completely subverting America. This is really not good. They’ll be using their intelligence organs to feed the Dems political and military info once war breaks out and they’ll probably send troops.
At least if that’s in fact what’s going on they’ll kill all the leftists eventually. Otherwise there will be nothing left to loot in America.
Probably you can say goodbye to your guns though. On the plus side you will be able to smoke in bars again!
I wouldn’t necessarily rule out China, but generally their attempts to imitate American culture or American anything else tend to come across as ham-fisted cringe.
While I can’t prove you wrong, I think you’re committing division fallacy. Just because card-carrying Democrats in aggregate are stupid and getting stupider due to holiness spiraling and dysgenic fertility, does not mean there are zero talented people left in their ranks. They would probably like us to believe that, just as Trump has always benefited from the left believing that he’s really stupid. But it doesn’t take an army of geniuses to spread disinfo; only a rather small handful of moderately competent spooks.
Keep in mind that they can brute-force this, they don’t have to get it right the first time. They can just shill endlessly on the chans making random guesses about what might work until one of their stories goes viral, and then, when it’s already in the public eye, start tapping a few middlemen and public figures to see if any of them want the attention or are otherwise susceptible. That takes a lot less intelligence and planning than you might think. After all, our guys on the chans have pulled off the same maneuver successfully with the legacy media, many times; just get one hungry reporter to cover the White Supremacist Hand Sign story and the rest will rush in to get the clicks, and they’ll find some university professor who happens to be strapped for cash to appear on the evening news and say “oh yes, we’ve been studying this phenomenon for a long time”, and then the ADL and SPLC want their cut of the action, and so on.
And all it took was a little shitposting and a lot of patience, no super genius grand plan.
China probably is trying to manipulate outcomes, but I’m not convinced yet that they’re behind either the election fraud or the election disinfo. Mind you, still OK with nuking them because Covid.
Thank you for this explanation, I have had similar hunches.
I can’t help admire the left for one thing, and one thing only: How good they are at building secret police, and at how effective and competent they are compared to the rest of their project. How to learn their secret sauce?
Their secret sauce isn’t so secret, it just requires state power and a state religion.
Inquisitions work just as well. Unfortunately, we don’t do enough of them when we’re in power. Secret police are a bit of an intrinsically-left thing because they imply lying and entryism; we don’t really need that if we’re in power, we can just tell people the actual rules and enforce them by normal means, being careful not to admit either subversion of the rules OR unlicensed expansion of the rules.
The right firmly in power indeed doesn’t need secret police. But Trump in the transition period does, likely Don Jr. will still need it. Just like Putin installing the state religion and actually taking power was probably impossible without the FSB’s help. I don’t know what they did, that’s why I left it out of the description last time, but they did something.
Nowadays Kadyrov in Chechnya has the power to drag people in front of TV cameras and apologize for what they wrote on social media. He also has the power to kill gays and rebels. Grand Inquisitor for Muslims. This is great, but it took Putin 15 years to make it possible.
Maybe Trump’s new 3 letter agency will just have to be fully devout Catholic or whatever state religion he goes for. But they will still have to learn a few tricks from the left probably.
The right firmly in power is too tolerant of leftism and sows the seeds of its own destruction… if we win this repression has to be firm and merciless forever. Nits make lice.
Sydney Powell retweeted a tweet mentioning this supposed Frankfurt raid against the CIA. Either she is pure enemy, meant to spread disinfo and derail the real effort, or it is legit, and will see the light of day sooner or later.
Remember, the media neglects to report on things that make them look bad. Who knew that Trump killed the Patriot Act? I did not, until I read it here a year after the fact, because the press simply refuses to cover things that contravene their narrative.
If Trump is to launch an autocoup, he has to dominate the intelligence agencies at some point or another, show them that scheming, information warfare, and assassination is inferior to a bunch of armed commandos kicking a door down with guns blazing, and this seems like a better time than most.
Sidney Powell isn’t knowingly an enemy, but she may have been taken in by false information (because there are some retired pro Trump officers who all swear this stuff about the Frankfurt raid is true). It could be true but it could be misinformation… Qtardism seems to take in a lot of people who REALLY should know better…
Here comes the FBI to whitewash the fraud. I still say Barr is working against Trump or at least doing nothing to help.
Of course I hope I’m wrong. Having an active FBI investigation that’s not a whitewash could be the nail in the coffin for the Dems. But so far, the FBI hasn’t done anying besides work against Trump.
I assume FBI is enemy until proven otherwise. Have yet to be proven otherwise.
Are you talking about their request for the Braynard data, or is this some other new development?
Braynard data. The very fact they’re looking into it is useful to give cover to the GOP selecting their own electors so leads me to believe they wouldn’t do it until they planned to whitewash it.
How stupid does Braynard have to be to give them anything?
He is keeping the original data, so at least he’s not completely retarded.
It’s probably a bit hard to refuse a “request” from the FBI, especially if they know who you are.
Not election related, but I stumbled on this link as I was browsing other stuff: https://web.archive.org/web/20201126163323/https://www.jhunewsletter.com/article/2020/11/a-closer-look-at-u-s-deaths-due-to-covid-19
If the data are correct, and I have no reason to assume that they aren’t, then I really was completely wrong about this. Ever since May, my rationale that Covid should be taken semi-seriously (though not seriously enough for lockdowns) was based on excess deaths and the need for those to be explained. But apparently, there are no excess deaths in the USA. Masks, lockdowns, social distancing, not one whit of it has mattered a whit.
I don’t really comprehend how some excess deaths could change to no excess deaths, other than the mid-year data was tortured or falsified somehow. But this comes from Johns Hopkins, not a random Twitter account. (From students, to be fair, and of course they were forced to retract, but predictably not on factual grounds, to date there have been no factual challenges).
The implication of this is that it’s not even really more dangerous than the flu; the IFR may technically be higher but it’s primarily killing people who would have died from heart disease anyway.
I looked into this a bit Friday. There’s a rebuttal from Johns Hopkins that doesn’t link to any actual numbers disputing the study.
Here’s their response:
https://www.jhunewsletter.com/article/2020/11/a-closer-look-at-u-s-deaths-due-to-covid-19
The part of about using percentages instead of raw numbers are particularly disingenuous since if you look at the yearly death counts for Americans they increase year after year in the range 12k to 90k, so a percentage of deaths vs population size is by far the better way to look at the data.
There’s a debate as to the total deaths for Americans in 2020 for which I wasn’t able to find a source for. If they’re going to fake a number, it’s going to be the total deaths for Americans in 2020.
2020…the year everything was fake and gay.
The Corona deaths are the fake stat not the # of people who died (yes sure you can fake that but its harder). Do not start arguing the corona death numbers are real again, they never were it was obviously fake and gay from the beginning.
As the old meme said… man shot 33 times in the head dies of coronavirus.
The rights cowardice is its undoing… we had too many cowards who believes in an obviously fake virus threat (even if it was real we should have deemed causalties acceptable losses and gone on with our lives and a normal economy and election) and our leader may be too cowardly to cross the rubicon and seize power. We have some St. Kyles but it seems not enough of them.
I don’t think you read the article. The article posted said that the COVID deaths were fake and gay. And is I indicated their rebuttal was fake and gay as well. The only issue is finding a source on total American deaths for 2020, there’s multiple sources for it that don’t agree with each other and frankly after this study they have to fake the total deaths in order to hide that the COVID didn’t increase deaths.
A) Don’t tell me what to do and B) read the fucking article before you look like more of an idiot.
Yeah, the rebuttal and retraction on that study are sort of like the PA Supreme Court’s ruling today: “well, technically all of that is true, but we don’t like where this is heading, so you’d better drop it”. Lowers the credibility of the profession, raises the credibility of the original claim.
Point is that the “with Covid not from Covid” narrative, while it sounded pretty lame and low class to me, is in retrospect almost entirely true, more true than even many of the people who pushed that hypothesis thought at the time. If it had no effect on excess deaths then it cannot possibly have been responsible for 200k or whatever deaths, except to the extent of cannibalizing other diseases.
If you diagnosed everyone who died who had recently been exposed the common cold, as dead from the common cold, you would get the same results as we have been seeing ever since they stopped using ventilators and started using oxygen masks.
The sudden and mysterious decline in deaths from heart attack, cancer and such like would by mysteriously equal and opposite to the sudden increase in deaths from the common cold.
And lo and behold, deaths from China Flu are mysteriously equal to the mysterious decline in deaths from heart attack, cancer and such.
Looks like China Flu is rough, but does not actually kill anyone. Ventilators killed people.
To the extent we have excess deaths at all, probably lockdown related.
After a while, I’ve been thinking that this fiction flu only exposes many problems that we in reactionary circles don’t want to admit:
a. Most masses are indeed stupid and lazy that they can only rely on mainstream media and globohomo narrative. Merely presenting data is not sufficient.
b. Too many cucks in higher power that rely heavily on stupid masses (see point a.)
c. Globohomo already had too many power over us that truth only valid as long it fits the official narrative.
I’m not blackpilling here, but even if Trump seizes power he will openly face globohomo power that will impose lockdown on entirety of his 2nd term.
If Trump is still in office on January twenty first, 2021, it will be because of radical measures that will cut the priesthood of the China Flu demon off at the knees.
And this is why I’ve become so invested in hoping for Trump victory even as my appraisal of its likelihood diminishes as it becomes clear he won’t likely achieve it without radical measures: I think it will have big ramifications not just for the US, but the world.
Heck, even some non-insignificant number of Japanese seem to really care: https://youtu.be/1lDSyPbTTGs
The white pill is that the anti-globalist elite anger around the world must be as near to boiling point as it has ever been after all these lockdowns and extreme measures. Like these French riots: are they really about BLM, or is that just the excuse they are allowed to vent their anger?
My most optimistic scenario is that a shocking Trump victory not only leads to anti-globalist revolt in the US, but around the world, in part because it could shift the zeitgeist in terms of what one is allowed to be angry about.
Jack Prosobic said he believed the China Flu was real because of the way the Chinese reacted to it. There was just too much economic damage going on if it wasn’t real. I generally viewed it the same way. The idea that they cooked it up in order to help the Democrats rig the election with mail in ballots wasn’t even on the radar. It seems obvious is hindsight.
Nothing like this has ever happened before in history even in fiction. It’s a monstrous crime that China and the Democrats should share the same fate for. China needs to be destroyed after the Democrats are.
China flu was, and is, real in a sense.
It frequently causes impaired oxygen absorption. When they treated that with ventilators, killed a lot of people. If not treated at all, kills nearly as many people. If treated with oxygen mask, no one dies of it, (in the sense that deaths assigned to China flu equal the decline in deaths assigned to cancer, heart disease, kidney failure, etcetera) but it is pretty miserable for a while.
I already knew from April 2020 that China we were suspiciously too prepared.
CCP knew exactly their margin of error in destroying their own economy, while dragging everyone else’s economy even further. All the chaos just in order CCP to be even higher power than today.
It is indeed monstrous crime that everyone involved in it should be punished and their names deleted from the annals of history.
Alternate possibility- the Chinese were prepared for a bioweapon containment failure and accidentally thought this is what happened to start. That does imply leaving the airport open was an act of Supreme dickishness.
China should indeed be destroyed for this but I said it at the time they were damaging their economy in one city only.
I also said nobody else on earth is interested in truth anymore EXCEPT the Japanese and South Koreans (and yes the Russians to some extent) and it was clear from their experience early the virus was hype. I said all other countries should be assumed to be lying for whatever reason… Western European countries like Italy were cathedral satrapies.
a. That’s why we need a state religion that tells people what to think – most people are signal repeaters, and that is good so, it is how God made us.
b. Is this something that we in reactionary circles don’t want to admit?
c. Yes cathedral meme control is, or perhaps was, one of the primary problems facing us.
Don’t we admit, point out and focus on these things all the time?
“a. Most masses are indeed stupid and lazy that they can only rely on mainstream media and globohomo narrative. Merely presenting data is not sufficient.”
No the problem is not with the MASSES, masses implies working and lower class guys they haven’t been part of the problem since Reagan’s time. Its a problem with women and people of middling intelligence (ie midwits) in cities its not so much the masses. The proles stopped listening a long time ago. They generally wised up on the pandemic quickly too. You need a sane state religion for these people above all. The right it seems mainly needs a state religion because too many of us seem to be materialists and nihilists who live in crippling fear.
“B. Too many cucks in higher power that rely heavily on stupid masses (see point a.)”
This is a question of whether Trump and some other ever believed in the Wuflu hoax or didn’t want to fight that portion of the base that initially bought into it. Trump’s initial comments suggested he wasn’t buying it but he seemed to cuck hard for a while after that… so we’ll never know.
“c. Globohomo already had too many power over us that truth only valid as long it fits the official narrative.”
The problem with Cathedral meme control and total blackout on truth is not so much that anyone believes the official Cathedral narrative (despite some people falling for it on wuflu), nobody except hardcore NPC progs and suburban mask Karens believe cathedral narratives anymore. The problem is good people don’t know who to believe and disinformation nonsense like Qtardery fills the void.
I have relatives in the healthcare system — anecdotally, most doctors seem to know that COVID isn’t increasing all-cause mortality and only “killing†people who would be dead by the end of the year anyways. They also know that properly treated, COVID isn’t any more dangerous than the flu, though of course it is more *severe* and patents often want or need supplemental oxygen, antivirals, etc.
(These observations would be impossible to hide from doctors because of the overwhelming anecdotal / statistical evidence in favor of them.)
Thus, the current narrative that is used to justify Covid hysteria to doctors is something a little more sophisticated — basically fearmongering about an “overwhelmed medical system†that will somehow cause millions of people to die. Of course we don’t even really *need* ICUs that much since we stopped putting people on ventilators (although we still *use* them for every COVID patient due to bureaucracy), and we’re not going to run out of supplemental oxygen or IVs, so …
Yes, although the “overwhelmed medical system” was part of the original narrative, and while it did materialize in a few Democrat-controlled cities as a result of shockingly bad policies (New York), for the most part it failed to materialize anywhere else.
And if it failed to materialize for the first wave, going to be even more of a nothingburger for the second wave and third wave and all subsequent waves. They can claim that lockdowns helped to suppress the first wave such that the second wave could actually be worse, but (a) that’s essentially an argument for permanent lockdown and (b) the evidence from lockdown-free areas does not support it.
So there really is no there, there. It’s entirely political and maybe always was. I’m not too sure that China actually planned the whole thing, as they really did appear to suffer a lot of damage themselves, but they sure as shamblin’ shit capitalized on it and used it for political and economic advantage. And that should not go unpunished.
Technically, this is an argument for permanent lockdown until the *vaccine* comes in. This will probably be the chosen narrative if a Biden presidency materializes — permanent lockdown while we “wait for the vaccine”, of course while the left tries to delay vaccine mass production through various bureaucratic hurdles and tries to ensure that competent white men who own small businesses get the vaccine last.
“So there really is no there, there. It’s entirely political and maybe always was. I’m not too sure that China actually planned the whole thing, as they really did appear to suffer a lot of damage themselves, but they sure as shamblin’ shit capitalized on it and used it for political and economic advantage. And that should not go unpunished.”
Yes China planned it.
Step 1: Deliberately leak a slightly worse than normal cold virus with flu like symptoms out of lab.
Step 2: Let it spread in one city then act completely retarded and panic people.
Step 3: Coordinate through glowjoggers like Brennan with the Democrats, Democrats initially act likes it nothing and tell people to kiss people in Chinatown and such.
Step 4: Hype things WAY out of proportion in muh Italy (a cathedral satrapy). Send sick people to nursing homes. Use muh Italy to justify complete panic.
Step 5: We need lockdowns which wreck the economy and mail in voting (China almost certainly briefed them they just needed to scale up old fashioned Mayor Daley type election fraud, about the voting machines and such I don’t know)… Trump acts cowardly and falls for it unfortunately.
After all this Trump backtracks a little but not strongly enough and quickly enough, doesn’t lift the emergency order mail in ballots are allowed and we end up in this situation. If everyone on the right had taken the brave course that this was an obvious conspiracy (which it was) we would have won.
I’m feeling bad now China should be punished for this severely… but it probably won’t happen. There is just too much cowardice on the right (I’m not saying I’m going to do anything myself as a face in the crowd so if you want to call me a hypocrite fine). Trump is acting like he won’t cross the Rubicon and the state legislatures seem to be taking their sweet time, the courts seem to even when they do something good immediately reverse… it seems all these people (knowing in the case of the state legislatures they will all lose their jobs if they don’t reverse this) all want to be eaten by the communists last. They are afraid of antifags or whatever pictures the glowjoggers have of them. I personally absolutely don’t care if they kill me, I don’t want to live in their hell world (the one thing I’ll gladly due if they give me a chance to be a Beria and hunt down leftists who are wrong figuring I’m reliable because I hate all leftists I will do it with glee) and I believe your consciousness in some form goes on. I could go to Russia or certain parts of Asia but I’m awkward enough here… as a foreigner I just don’t know.
I’m incredibly disgusted right now…
You would do fine. Any awkwardness would be chunked up to being from a foreign country. There’s going to be huge opportunities in this chaos that comes if things fall apart, but probably not in America. If the commies take over, it’s time to get out.
I’m not right about everything the Democrats did not pick Moochelle because why bother if they are going to rig it by however many 10s of millions of votes, I did underestimate their audacity with the mail ins I thought they merely meant to get Trump by ruining the economy. But they scaled up the fraud to what they needed even if it was obvious… Moochelle was probably too independent even if they would have needed less fraud. Beijing Biden and Kameltoe on the other hand will act more like King Theoden to the Cathedral’s wormtoungue than Obama (who at least was sane enough, and even Jarett his handler was sane enough, to want to avoid war with Russia) ever did…
But it wasn’t hindsight with me on the covid, I said look at the South Korean data… one of the few truth oriented countries I just don’t understand why this didn’t sway everyone on the right. This is not me tooting my own horn this is me being incredibly bitter and pissed off… I’m not infallible but that covid was fake and gay was to me as 100% obvious as the sky being blue. And I just don’t see why some of our people fell for it…
Trump is not even acting like Caesar… he is not appearing at rallies he is not even trying to negotiate a deal that will spare him and his family he is just acting despondent. Even if he thinks he can’t seize power he should at least want to go down in the manner of the last Byzantine Emperor… who knowing that all was lost went to the Hagia Sophia addressed donned the uniform of an ordinary soldier (so he would not be taken prisoner) and went off to die with the last of his troops. All I can say is I hope its a stratagem, the one encouraging thing is that Trump has restructured military command so that he and the secdef can more easily give direct orders especially to specops so maybe Trump’s playing dead otherwise is a stratagem. But otherwise I can’t say things look good now… I’d normally want to keep morale up but if the state legislatures and judges all fear that they may be eaten sooner rather than later (and don’t care about their jobs) and Trump is not willing to just call his people to the street and seize power… I don’t see much good that I can see.
We really need divine intervention at this point…
Because South Korea was treating like real threat by giving everyone KN95s masks and doing contact tracing. Only Japan really failed to take it very seriously and did fine.
The connection with fixing the election wasn’t clear. It looked like a pandemic that Trump would handle fine and then win reelection in an overwhelming manner, which he did.
I had thought that either the DOJ or Trump’s own guys would bust of the fraud operations to prevent the steal but apparently the group Trump setup to handle it was compromised from the start. I wonder if Barr was the guy in charge of it?
Trump is not Caesar. He’s being put into the same sort of box Caesar was in.
All of Trump’s life he’s played the winds of chaos, looked weak, and waited for his foes to make a mistake and then countered attacked. I don’t think he plans it as much as he has good instincts for it.
I don’t know if he’ll come up short this time but frankly there’s nothing left to do because hope for the best and prepare for the worst.
Cominator
I also watched Trump’s recent interview – originally aired on Fox.
If Trump is not playing dead, in order to encourage his opponents to make a mistake, then Trump is not a man that can become Caesar.
Trump seems to put his faith in the courts and legislatures – when the courts proved themselves almost entirely politicized, on the democrats’ side, and the republicans, with very few exceptions, either are very silent, or are heavily cucking.
Trump complains he cannot get to the Supreme Court. Wow – it seems we know the position the SC decided to adopt.
There is not a hint that Trump thinks about invoking the insurrection act, or that he still has confidence this situation will go his way in the end.
Frankly, the impression Trump made was of a naive reformer, who failed to consolidate power in his first term, thinking his popularity with the masses will be enough, and is now desperate.
Who is getting chewed up by the establishment: the means being the election fraud, with the present acquiescence of the FBI/DOJ/CIA/etc.
If Trump loses power and Biden’s handlers get it, the leftist revolution will go full stream ahead. But the left’s weakness at present is the lack of enforcers; it would need to leverage its institutional power in order to get muscle, and only after seriously start with the killing fields.
This could have provided the opportunity to at least resist it in much of the USA.
But if, as you say, China is the mastermind behind the election fraud, as the culmination of an elaborate and highly aggressive covert attack using COVID-19 and mail-in ballots…
Well, USA could have survived for a while under Biden, if no external enemies of note existed.
But with an enemy as powerful, skilled and aggressive as China proves itself to be, which has Biden as a puppet, the USA is done. No buts or ifs.
The moral decay and agreement incapacity are, however strikingly similar.
As for the Marian reforms – that is just a professional army. Today, all armies are professional. I don’t think that is a key difference.
Meh, you can interpret it like that, but it’s equally possible that China acted opportunistically and only let it leak from Wuhan after they realized what it was and where it was.
Some malice is premeditated, but most is opportunistic. Opportunism is the parsimonious explanation, requires fewer variables and fewer implausibilities, and in any case has pretty much the same outcome. The only difference is how bad it makes you feel and how angry you get, and you seem determined to frame everything in the worst possible light.
I don’t see Trump or really any normies doing what you’re doing. Lot of folks think China is responsible and China should pay, but the idea that they created and distributed the virus all as part of a year-long hail-mary plan to manipulate the 2020 US election is slightly less plausible than the idea that a Dominion server in Germany has incontrovertible proof of a global algorithmic election fraud system.
I know that abnormal is the new normal, and increasingly so, but I still advocate going up the ladder. First assume isolated error; if the evidence is beyond the threshold for error, assume incompetence; if it can’t be explained by incompetence, then corruption; if not corruption, then collusion, and only if collusion still cannot explain it, then maybe a premeditated large-scale conspiracy.
I’ve seen more than enough evidence to place China’s behavior with Covid somewhere between corruption and collusion, but as for conspiracy, there’s not a lot of evidence.
China executed the steps too flawlessly for this to not be planned and the virus wasn’t that lethal just in its initial phase kind of a scary cold… if it were a lab leak they didnt plan china would have had to act different in case a truly deadly bioweapon is unleashed.
As a generality, that’s pretty much a circular argument. Be specific: what could not have been achieved without extensive planning and large-scale coordination?
(as opposed to, say, more general advice from on high of “hey, don’t try too hard to stop this from escaping China, just make sure it doesn’t affect US too badly”)
1st of all for China to act the way they did they needed to know the virus wasn’t really all that deadly.
If it was like the virus from The Stand they would have had a real lockdown (or we’d all be dead now). If they didn’t know what they were dealing with would also have not kept the airport open in order that la truly bad virus would not have come to China.
Also the steps were like a perfect panic creating psyop in general… not the Democrats usual transparent bullshit (I could see through it but it seems so many couldn’t including Scott Adams who is right more often than almost anyone). So clearly this was planned by smart people in China who gave the plan to the Democrats… and not the Democrats themselves.
You’re not being specific, you’re coming up with different paraphrasings for “it was too perfect”.
What part of any of that rules out opportunistic corruption or possibly opportunistic collusion?
As I said clearly they knew the virus wasn’t that bad… or else they would have had to really contain it when they could have not pretend contain it to panic everyone but let it out of China.
Doesn’t demonstrate prior planning, only opportunistic deceit. Premeditation narrative is inconsistent with early news coming out of China which actually played down the threat – remember, Trump and the right were paying attention before the establishment, which at first downplayed it or cast it as xenophobia.
Additionally, China may have taken the same steps even if they thought the virus was very serious. No particular reason I can see that it would have changed their decisions.
Most likely scenario in my opinion: China noticed China flu (natural phenomenon, not from a lab), locked the region down because initially no idea what to do, realized they could send it to Europe and US to destroy their economies and buy up their facilities for cheap. This was probably still what they were thinking in the ‘Go to Chinatown or you’re racist’ phase, when they used their network in the Democratic party*. Same with lockdowns in the beginning. Only later did they realize that wait a second they can use that to legitimize mail-in ballot fraud. Then they went all in on it.
Maybe China should be able choose between taking all the American leftists or war with America.
* Even if Chinese spooks were truly not involved, there surely are a lot more Hunter Bidens than we know of. And think about it, lockdown is not a policy today’s Democrats would come up with on their own. It looks like something vaguely out of FDR’s playbook. Sweden as a leftist apostate never made sense to me, makes more sense for them to be simply pure Harvardist leftism while others where chinfluenced.
Yes, likely this is a replay of the Kaiser sending Lenin to Russia in a sealed train with crate of gold as if he was barrel of smallpox contaminated clothing.
“Maybe China should be able choose between taking all the American leftists or war with America.”
And give the PRC free organs to sell?
After it’s going on for a while it seems like China miscalculated their margin or error.
The China Flu has become irrefutable excuse for foreign companies to finally leave china (Samsung, even Foxconn leaves).
I even read that CCP has money issue, that they are scamming foreign investors.
Market Ticker proved the same thing by looking at Social Security payouts.
Since it’s all senior citizens, any abnormal death spikes should show up as a dip in payouts. So either everyone who died of covid is still cashing SS checks or there’s no pandemic.
https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=240778
This is, frankly, a more hopeful analysis than the situation deserves. Not all republics are Rome. Trump is not Caesar, or Pompey, or Sulla, because those men and their actions were products of a very specific time and place, in which individual oligarchs commanded effectively private armies loyal in practice to them personally. This was a result of the Marian reforms, history’s most famous experiment in anarcho-capitalism, which predictably turned into anarcho-piratism very quickly beyond the Italian metropole and eventually within it as well. The Roman Republic did not fall because of any natural decay process of republics, or even because of a left singularity, though it was headed there (and did not exactly stop heading there with Augustus). It fell because it did not directly command the loyalty of its own armies, an eventual inevitability for any republic much larger than a single polis, but this had already been formally the case for sixty years before Caesar crossed the Rubicon.
When Trump personally commands a substantial portion of the US Army, with whom he has just returned from a years-long foreign campaign, and whom he pays out of his own pocket, then we can begin comparing him to Julius Caesar.
In fact there is a time in Roman history which compares to our present moment, but it is much later. The late Republic did not have a Cathedral, a deep state, a dangerously universalist state religion, uncontrolled immigration (a consequence of the universalism), religiously motivated revisionism and iconoclasm, or many of the other hallmarks of our present left singularity. The late Empire did.
The year in Rome is not 58 BC, but 408 AD. Trump is Stilicho, Biden is Honorius, and barbarians are already sacking their way across the empire with the full support of a significant portion of the state. Like Stilicho, Trump is about to be deprived of his legitimate authority and regular troops, and will be left only with his federati (in Trump’s case, the informal militia, the Proud Boys and such). Had Stilicho marched on Ravenna with his remaining men to depose Honorius and purge the deep state, he probably would have succeeded, and might well have saved the empire, at least for a while. What exactly he would have been saving is another matter; that Europe was going to come under Germanic rule was probably an inevitability by that point, but the centuries of darkness and war between then and Charlemagne might well have been shortened or avoided.
The Republic had an extreme leftist movement (as opposed to a right wing populist movement that is represented well by the 1st Gracchi brother and Julius Caesar, this distinction must be made because even Sulla enacted some right wing populist things in regards to land for vets and curtailing publicani and making debtors compound interest become “simple” interest) that started with the SECOND Gracchi brother. Marius was never really a strong backer before his mind went (all Marius actually cared about was military affairs) but Cinna the guy who controlled Marius when he was a senile figurehead ala Biden was. The leftist movement was mostly wiped out by Sulla who killed anyone in the Senatorial and Equite classes who he thought ever showed any sympathy with it.
The Senatorial class was the Republic’s deep state.
The Empire didn’t really have a deep state either it had an all too politically active military from the time Commodus was murdered onwards (the military was only occasionally politically active before this, and mostly when there wasn’t a clear legal emperor like when Nero fell… Nero had executed all his relatives within the Imperial family so there would be no clear successor). It rarely led to civil war before this point and when it did they ussually were resolved with a skirmish and didn’t last long.
@Jim:
Please comment everyone:
How could Romans have figured out what was happening any faster than we can?
Rome didn’t have Twitter or blogs. They didn’t even have electricity, newspapers, printing or paper. But yet I also imagine they weren’t as distracted by the trivial, and were busier with the day to day right in front of them. Surely “the capitol” felt much farther away than DC feels to us.
What they definitely didn’t have was a way to anonymously publish words that would appear before a million eyes the very next minute. Jim commented here years ago that the Trump election in 2016 was made possible by anonymous internet speech.
Was there a Roman Qanon?
Was there any kind of “Roman media” beyond government proclamations and regular person-to-person gossip? And what does that mean?
Rome though it had an empire was entirely theoretically centered on one city, and in the city among the non political classes Caesar was almost universally wildly popular (he was mostly popular in Italy and the Western provinces besides Gaul, in the East Pompey was better known if not exactly loved) even if even some among the nonpolitical class had misgivings about Caesar potentially becoming king. Rome theoretically only existed within the sacred boundary of the city.
The assassins failed to kill Marc Antony who wasted no time in working the Roman mob up into a frenzy at Caesar’s funeral and seizing control the way Trump should be seizing control.
It was clear when Antony seized control without even marching in an army that nobody gave a fuck about the Republic anymore outside the Senatorial classes, who were mainly interested in a Republic so they could make themselves incredibly rich by being very corrupt proconsuls.
How did normal Roman people even know who Julius Caesar was?
Could they read? Read what?
Would a “controlled media” herald person come out to the town square with a bullhorn now and then and let everyone know how great Caesar was doing against those low down good for nothing Gaul savages?
1) Caesar was extremely popular as Consul even if he was mostly acting as an agent of Pompey and Crassus (he was at that time the junior partner in the triumvariate). He got through a lot of right wing populist things via strongarm tactics including a law saying Latifundia had to hire a certain amount of nonslaves.
2) Caesar while campaigning in Gaul regularly sent back money to Rome to be distributed among citizens (this is probably what most pissed off the Senatorial class and alienated his old friend Pompey as Caesar was obviously outright buying massive popularity, and it wasn’t even electioneering as poorer citizens in Rome while they could vote their votes were weighted with a complicated system based on your wealth that made the poorer voters matter a lot less so this aroused massive suspicion).
3) Caesar subdued the Gauls, while you may think of them as minor celtic tribes who were no threat to Rome the Romans didn’t think of them that way. The Gauls had sacked and DESTROYED Rome in its history before.
Caesar was also feared by the Senatorial class in a way Pompey never was for another reason, Caesar came from a genuinely high aristocratic patrician bloodline. He was descended from Rome’s kings and supposedly from the gods. Pompey’s family were upstart foreigners who bought citizenship though the Optimates disdained this they were more relaxed about such a man having temporary absolute power… his family was not one to beget a line of kings. Caesar’s was (Sulla’s was as well but Sulla was a tradcon at heart and he was semi aligned with the Optimates).
I think you answered your own question
After Corinth, anyone who did not live directly in Rome, or didnt have at least three or four legions under his command, simply didnt matter.
At the end of the day, towns and cities outside Rome were probably a great deal more concerned with not being seen in rebellion against Rome than about who was “rightâ€. Unless by “right†you mean whose armies are probably going to win.
@Cominator:
“It was clear when Antony seized control without even marching in an army that nobody gave a fuck about the Republic anymore outside the Senatorial classes, who were mainly interested in a Republic so they could make themselves incredibly rich by being very corrupt proconsuls.”
Boy does that ring a bell. Well hinted, good sir.
The people who mattered met regularly in the Senate and popular assembly. Romans had a lot of physical gatherings. And yet the people who mattered were mighty slow to realize that the $#!% had hit the fan and there was no going back.
Of course the assumption here is that Shitter, Blogs, Faceberg, and other occupied media outlets are of any use, they are not.
A man who knows nothing is far better off than a man who is immersed in propaganda.
Back then they got there most trusted news by word of mouth through social circles which are nonexistent today. We socialize by computer.
And lets not forget our foray in “multiculturalism”. Also a failing of Rome. There can be only one for a nation’s strength is within its customs.
We are being directed by design into revolution. One, to remove White Culture, namely The Constitution and our rights, and Two for fun and profit.
The constitution is dead and the government has been wearing it as a skinsuit for a very long time. It started killing it during the Wilson era and it was totally dead and being used as a skinsuit by the FDR era. The federal government was originally supposed to standardize weights and measures, deliver the mail, provide a legal basis for hunting down outlaws who crossed state lines (but not with standing federal police) and conduct diplomacy and war.
The 1st amendment is the only part of it thats still respected.
Maybe dead, maybe a skin suit. But, it’s my skin suit and I’m keeping it.
All case precedent finds its foundation in The Constitution. And we are conditioned to believe that what is written in plain English doesn’t really mean what it says until some shyster says so.
If I said it once, I said it 6 Gorillion times: The Constitution is real in my mind. Anyone claiming it isn’t, can explain why we always return to it’s words when arguing our case.
Government may claim the power to tax is the power to destroy. But, you have a foundation to dispute that claim. I’m not giving it up.
The only thing in it for us is the 1st amendment but that will be another dead skinsuit before long. The 2nd amendment is useful as an ethos in some states but the courts don’t protect it… they certainly don’t protect you against unlawful search and seizure…
“All case precedent finds its foundation in The Constitution. And we are conditioned to believe that what is written in plain English doesn’t really mean what it says until some shyster says so.”
This paragraph sounds suspiciously like something a fucking lawyer would say if were trying to bash lawyers to fit in. Case law and precedent isn’t the constitution its what the fucking judges make up.
“If I said it once, I said it 6 Gorillion times: The Constitution is real in my mind. Anyone claiming it isn’t, can explain why we always return to it’s words when arguing our case.”
Do you also believe in the Easter Bunny, Chupacabra and the effectiveness of lockdowns?
That’s fine. But, tell me how you would make an argument for any of your rights as a human without The Constitution and its Amendments.
What do you propose we replace it with?
You cannot really make an arguments for rights without appealing to some kind of religious argument.
If you are referencing the fallen material world alone there are no rights there is only power. Your rights exists so long as they are defended, if they are not defended you will be robbed killed and maybe eaten. Natural rights are nonsense on stilts.
From a visceral standpoint alone your rights only exist as far as you can project your individual force through violence.
A nation requires a social contract, otherwise it will cease to exist. The Constitution is that contract.
When it is gone, so is our nation. Perhaps it is dead in the minds of many and certainly usurped by many.
Nations don’t go from a constitution to an enlightened king. They go into tyranny every time. We don’t need another V.I. Lenin, another Pol Pot, or worse.
Rights exist. I am living on this Earth with everyone else. I want my family to prosper and my people to prosper.
Is it the narrative of this blog that rights are not real, that you only deserve what you can take by force?
We need a Sulla, a Cromwell, or a Stalin, or else we are going to get a Pol Pot, a Trotsky or a Zhang Xianzhong
That is a shill question. You propose false alternatives, both of which presuppose that the argument has not been made.
Rights exist by natural law, and natural law is the will of Gnon made manifest in the material world.
The constitution only lived when it was codification of divine law for a particular place and time, a codification of God given rights. As the faith and the divine authority that gave it life was excluded from power and died, it died.
It died of a hostile judiciary, which was hostile because they were priests of a hostile faith.
We need a new codification, which cannot come till we get a new priesthood in place. Purge Harvard, or flatten it and build a new Harvard. If we have a new priesthood in place, then we can codify again.
Before we make a start on Harvard, have to close the courts.
You don’t have a constitution, unless you have adherents to the faith that gives it life in power.
Close the courts, then fix Harvard, then we can re-codify. Once the courts fell from the limp hands of Christians into the hands of socinians, they soon fell into the more vigorous hands of demon worshipers.
No, a nation does not require a contract. A nation requires common ancestors, a common culture, a common language, and a common faith.
If you say that a nation requires a constituation, please explain why you think that Germany not a nation in, e.g., 962?
@Karl
When I wrote social contract, I meant broadly an agreement between leadership and tribal members. It can be expressed or implied and not necessarily in writing.
Once broken, trust is broken. The nation can no longer stand until trust is restored.
With the election fraud, we are at that moment.
Replace it with faith in the holy Trinity, God the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit.
The constitution is a poor substitute for the Bible, especially as the constitution can be amended according to the whims of fashion and has been amended so many times that it is unclear why one version should be superior to any other.
The phrase God given rights comes to mind.
Judges are priests. Close the courts, and ensure that under the Insurrection Act, adherents and priests of old type Christianity are performing the job formerly done by judges and lawyers.
>rights as a human
Lol fag mind-pozzed by fag enlightenment memes.
100% false. American jurisprudence and “constitutional law” has virtually no relationship with the written Constitution. For example, the two issues plaguing the Trump election cases right now are the concepts of standing and laches. Why don’t you go ahead and point us to where those are defined in the Constitution?
You can’t. They don’t exist. Courts just invented them out of thin air in the 20th century. In Pennsylvania, Trump sued on the basis of actual violations of the written constitution and his case was dismissed by the state Supreme Court based on a doctrine that is not written anywhere in any Constitution (or legislation, for that matter).
It’s unclear what you mean by “real”. Of course it’s real, it simply has no magical powers. And the answer to your question is simple: because it’s the only tool most people have, whether it’s effective or not (and it usually isn’t).
If you give me nothing but a Philips screw and a flathead screwdriver, I am going to try to make that work, even though it’s clearly the wrong tool for the job. But judges don’t actually decide cases on Constitutional grounds, they decide on a combination of precedent (most of which has nothing to do with the written Constitution), partisanship (for any political case) and general ideological grounds (like “disparate impact” cases).
Private citizens aren’t formally allowed to petition their lords for redress, and aren’t formally allowed to pursue court cases on sympathetic grounds. And in any case the majority of jurisprudence is civil law which doesn’t deal with constitutional issues at all, it’s all torts and contracts.
To the extent that “The Constitution” ever had any perceived power, it was because it was mostly aligned with the lowercase “constitution”, the English common law and generally accepted set of legal principles. Moldbug explained the difference forever ago. But writing down a “Constitution” doesn’t actually bind the constitution in any way. In fact, English common law got this right before American written law got it wrong, with the highest principle of English law being that no parliament can bind any future parliament; whoever has the power gets to wield that power.
You try to do stupid and impossible things like subordinate real power to a document, and you just end up with unpredictable side effects like power being concentrated in the judiciary via the (completely unconstitutional!) doctrine of Judicial Review. The plebs can keep believing that it has power, or should have power, but that only works if all parties agree to it, i.e. in front of a favorable judge.
Nicely written. I’ll stipulate that The Constitution as well as all statutes and case precedent is merely window dressing and a thin veil standing between us and annihilation. Nevertheless, it is there.
A judge can sit in the seat of power and decide our fate. Over him is another judge another court, etc…
Even your faith in God cannot save you from the mischief of evil men who lord it over you. Not on this earth anyway.
Words are twisted, insane mental gymnastics performed so men of power assert their will.
But, if all I have is a phillips screwdriver, I’m not giving it up until I get a better tool.
To strain the analogy a little further: the hardware store is right across the street. You can keep on fussing and stripping and swearing, or you can go buy the right tool for a few dollars.
In jurisprudence, the hardware store is the past, and the right tool is executive rule with a state religion – or at least something resembling English common law. To be fair, it’s going to cost more than a few dollars, but we also have a lot more than one screw.
@Icon:
“A man who knows nothing is far better off than a man who is immersed in propaganda.”
All right that’s it you’re full of shit. If not for NrX blogs and Twitter shitposting I would have no idea at all what the hell is going on. No context no understanding.
So you would rather be lied to than be at peace.
How do you know that anything you read is real beyond what you see outside your own senses.
If there’s one thing I learned from DJTrump is that the media has been leading us down the garden path for quite some time.
And this is not the first election fraud. Check out the curious case of Landslide Lyndon.
News was spread by word of mouth/gossip, which is surprisingly effective even today, as I can personally attest..It’s still a major factor today, notably in China..People back then didn’t have a lot of ways to divert themselves, and gossiping about the rich and famous was one, as reflected in some of Shakespeare’s dialogue…
Caesar had ‘De Bello Gallico’ which can be thought of as a cross between National Geographic and the Trump Twitter account, and intended to maintain his political image in Rome while he was off to war for multiple years at a time. Wherein Caesar wanders the exotic wilds of Gaul with his army, alternately describing and defeating enemies and horrors strange and exotic, some of which are of doubtful existence. Most tales are simple and to the point, so it’s still used in fancy high school Latin classes for students who can’t manage more literary Latin. It was clearly intended for the literate and semi-literate people to read the stories and retell them to all the non-literate plebs and cement the image of Caesar, omni-competent manly general who does not afraid of anything.
So Caesar at least had a basic mass media at his disposal. Wikipedia called it an ‘innovative’ way to reach the plebs, I suppose just like it’s innovative for Trump to have a Twitter account that isn’t filtered by a PR agency of blue check marks….
Channers watching the Arizona hearing are apparently saying the server raid in Germany is real…
Feeling better if so.
I still find it really really really really hard to believe…
But feeling better if so.
The whole story of the shootout seems like bogus. Apparently the Lt or whoever that put out the rumor cited a Military Intelligence unit in the raid which would never happen because MI units are never involved in combat missions.
bogus qtardery*
I haven’t watched the hearings live myself…
What exactly is and isn’t being asserted about the Frankfurt server.
So it was seized but there was no shootout?
No confirmation anything was seized. Still just a rumor.
Only thing confirmed was the machines were sending packets to Frankfurt, Germany.
https://mobile.twitter.com/wmmII88/status/1333459525467246597
Problem for me is that it doesn’t really make sense that anyone would set it up that way on purpose. Why Germany, and where (as in which entity or organization)? Even if there was some kind of digital manipulation, and I’m not even close to suggesting there was, a server in Germany is just an unnecessary and frankly fragile element; it adds nothing in terms of security or capabilities. It just sounds like Q bait designed to sound really sinister to techno-illiterates, especially considering that Dominion systems were not even being used in the disputed counties and that non-disputed counties voted heavily pro-Trump.
There are more uninteresting explanations than sinister explanations. For instance, maybe they used an NTP pool or CDN and for some reason that pointed to a German server. Or maybe it’s some passive traffic like analytics or heartbeats. We really need to see the traffic to determine if it was interesting.
Purported traffic to Germany doesn’t in and of itself prove the server seizure narrative because the server seizure narrative emerged after the “packets to Germany” became known, and was probably based on that very information. The only thing that would make that narrative plausible is data or inferences from the server itself that were not available or provable beforehand; if those don’t exist, then the server is either fake and gay or it’s real but useless.
If the magic server is real then I want to hear what they found on the magic server. Until then I remain entirely skeptical.
The theory put out there is that there was an algorithm running on the external server that would flip enough Trump votes to Biden spread across all the Dominion counties in the state so that Biden would win the election. Trump had such a massive amount of votes that the mass mail in dumps were needed in addition to the Dominion fraud according to that hypothesis.
There is lots of evidence of Dominion flipping votes from Biden to Trump and never to Trump from supposed “glitches” but we don’t have any evidence is was done in an organized manner across a network. So if the server seizure was real than that should verify that theory.
from Trump to Biden*
I hear you, but from a technical standpoint it just doesn’t really make a lot of sense. First of all, even if an “algorithm” was running on some server in Germany, the source code wouldn’t be on the server, and while it is not impossible to decompile and analyze executable code, it’s generally a fool’s errand trying to figure out what it actually does. There are many stories of companies losing their original source code, and it’s generally cheaper to rewrite the entire system than to try to patch the old one.
An “algorithm” running on a foreign server would imply RPCs or something like that – that is, the machines themselves are not self-contained and don’t have all the code they need to run. I don’t recall seeing this mentioned in any of the Dominion info exhibited by Sidney, and it runs counter to other things that we do know, such as software updates being deployed to the machines before and after elections. It’s strange to say that the fraud was committed through some RPC but also that there were suspicious updates to voting machines; while it’s not impossible that both contributed to fraud (i.e. the pre-election update could have introduced this RPC), it’s unlikely and a strange idea. There’s also no way a software update alone could have added internet connectivity, the machines would have to have already been designed with the right hardware.
This RPC would also make the machines horrendously slow. Maybe they were slow, but it hasn’t been reported. “Phoning home” over many hops to Europe is just silly; why wouldn’t they run it in the USA, or at least some place sort of close like Canada?
We’re very thin on facts and thick on speculation. Even the evidence that packets were sent to Germany is kind of sketchy, being derived from some external analysis tool, not logs from either endpoint. Assuming the packets really existed, they could have been some idiot connecting to the same wifi network, analytics traffic, debug info… we don’t know, because we don’t know what the packets supposedly were.
Most importantly to me is that none of this is new information. After days, or even weeks of escalation of this narrative, the big bombshell is packet traffic that we’ve known about since the beginning. At best we can say it seems a little suspicious and should be investigated, but unfortunately does not prove or support any of the speculation that’s come about since then.
Coincidences can and do occur in networked systems like this. I can recall two instances from memory where US traffic ended up being redirected to European servers. One was when somebody had pushed a configuration update, but made a typo, such that what was supposed to be an EU datacenter actually ended up as a replica in a US cluster, which caused tons of traffic to flow back and forth and nearly DoSed the entire internet connection. In another instance, there was an outage in one US datacenter and maintenance in another, and what was left couldn’t handle all the NA traffic, so a bunch of it spilled over into Europe.
I’m not saying any of this explains the “Germany packet” that we’re told exists, or even slightly resembles that situation, just that we know far too little to draw any meaningful conclusions and the people who say this 2-week-old discovery is “proof” of anything important are helping to spread disinfo, whether intentionally or unintentionally.
My current understanding is that vote switching with Dominion software is done in a low tech manner that does not involve any algorithms running on servers in Germany. Namely, the schema (which numbers are Biden’s and which are Trump’s) is not part of the transferred data, it’s kept on the sending and on the receiving machines. So you can trivially replace the schema on the receiving end before entering data, thereby switching the votes.
And I’m pretty sure there’s a manual override as well that lets you later say wait, we entered the wrong data and switched the votes by mistake, switch them again. This can also be used to rig the result, and explains how Trump magically lost votes (with Biden gaining the same amount) during the live updates.
Pretty sure it’s even more low tech than that:
1. Stop count so you know how many more votes you need, and kick out observers. (multiple affidavits)
2. Print out a few thousand minty-fresh ballots or harvest them before election (observers saw “mail-in” ballots with no creases)
3. Fill in names of people unlikely to vote because they’re dead, out of state, etc. Or, if you’re in Detroit, just skip this step. (found in many audits)
4. Insert an unscannable ballot at the bottom of the batch to force an exception; then, instead of cancelling and redoing the batch, keep rescanning the same ballots to count them five or six times (the tabulators do not prevent duplication)
5. Repeat as necessary to achieve desired outcome. (seen as multiple spikes in counting)
6. Destroy the evidence: burn the envelopes, refuse to allow any signature audits (openly admitted). Use megaphone to assert that mail votes are totally safe, election fraud doesn’t exist, anyone who thinks it exists is a sour grapes conspiracy nut, and the AP “called” the election already.
This is another reason why I just don’t believe the server BS. It’s simply an unnecessary component to the fraud. We know how the heist was done and we have proof. There is no sane reason to dilute an airtight provable case with unprovable kookery.
All of the above. They cheated in every conceivable way, but yes the fat DMV lady city machine fraud is the easiest to prove. I mean they literally forcefully removed Republican watchers out of the count rooms and blocked the windows with paper, all caught on video. How more obvious can you get than that.
+1 to “all of the above”, more than one type of fraud was in play.
If I had to guess I’d say that the server in Germany was the machine where the logs were kept. (If you write voting software you will definitely want to log everything somewhere off-site in case you need to defend yourself.)
Why Germany? Well, it was just hosted in a (public) data center somewhere, in Europe so it was outside US jurisdiction.
Repeating at the top, for all those that came in late
Social security shows no excess deaths from China Flu, except for mass murder by Cuomo over a period of two months. Who died, not of China flu, but of ventilators, having been deliberately infected by China Flu for an excuse to put them on ventilators.
https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=240778
The deaths from China Flu, by an amazing coincidence, are exactly equal to the decline in deaths from heart disease, cancer, etc, the decline in deaths from the disease of old age.
It is just yet another new flu, bros.
In summer they announced the same thing in Germany. No excess deaths.
https://de.statista.com/infografik/21523/anzahl-der-sterbefaelle-in-deutschland/ (page is German but labels should be obvious, maybe someone can archive it I can’t get beyond the captcha on archive.is)
Less people died in 2020 than when the flu hit badly in 2018.
Doesn’t convince leftists though and will not convince leftists in the US because it was all supposedly thanks to the lockdowns. And they are now trying via peer-review to only get studies through that prove there supposedly were excess deaths after all.
But this is very very normie-compatible, even for people who nominally hate Trump. ‘Germany–US, no difference.’ Will spread this far and wide.
Social security bypasses the peer review barrier. If peer review finds excess deaths, and Social security keeps paying out, something is fishy.
Something is fishy but people could be using the SS #s of dead people for scams… bet if you reapply for the # of a dead person the government pays you… I know illegals can all easily get socials.
Inside information about the quarrels of demon worshipers fighting each other is as off topic as it can get. Why should anyone care? Why should I want to know who these people are?
At the Arizona hearing, it was only confirmed data was transmitted to Frankfurt, but not that Trump’s men have the server.
Also, the Arizona governor (a republican) and secretary of state certified the results of the election during the hearing. A political spit in the face from them to Trump. As unsubtle as one can get.
There is no way Trump will win this in the courts or with the legislatures; this much is clear at this point to anyone paying attention.
Lt General Thomas McInerney (retired) talks the insurrection act:
https://youtu.be/oojQydmdsOs
In my view, there are only 2 options:
-gen. McInerney lied about the server, or at least vastly embellished what he heard from former colleagues, in order to bolster Trump’s position;
-Trump wants to unveil this server when he declares the insurrection act. The optimistic option.
In any other case, Trump’s team would have talked about the server at the Arizona hearing.
The state legislatures are absolutely still in play. The fact they even had a hearing today indicates that.
They look to be all talk and no action BUT agreeing that there was massive fraud and then doing nothing looks even worse for them… so likely they will do something.
Ehhh that video just shows some bitch’s face and a male voice. That could be anyone.
Vanishingly unlikely.
Most people won’t understand a thing about the technical details, and the people who would, such as myself, would need time to look over the evidence to understand its significance. If Trump had something like that and wanted to use it to declare an insurrection, he’d dump it into the courts and the public domain first – as is what he’s doing with every single other bit of fraud evidence. What possible benefit could there be to announcing that the information exists but refusing to release it until it no long matters? Because once he’s declared an insurrection, no one cares about a server anymore.
If no one on Trump’s team wants to talk about the magic server, probably bullshit. Trump doesn’t operate that way, releasing oblique and speculative evidence through retired and out-of-the-loop proxies; he tweets, or he coordinates an official leak.
You’re doing the shill routine again. “Oh it’s impossible for Trump to win courts or legislatures, doom doom doom, our only real hope is the magic server!” Like fucking clockwork.
It is impossible for Trump to win through courts or legislatures, because the legislatures will be ignored, even if he wins in the legislatures. They are being ignored right now. It is impossible for him to win through the courts, because even if he wins in the supreme court, as he very likely will, it will be ignored as it is being ignored right now.
He is going to have to go to the insurrection act, and likely civil war. But he needs as many victories as he can get before he goes there.
And if he wins through the magic server, it will be in the form of early morning raids by death squads.
We have to distinguish between not winning battles in SCOTUS and/or the Electoral College, vs. not winning the war as a direct result of those battles. You’ve said yourself that a victory in either or both of those venues would improve legitimacy of an Insurrection Act invocation, and we are just at the beginning of that process.
Election challenges (contests) officially start after results are certified. There is in fact quite a lot of time for those to happen, and states sending competing delegations means that the House will certify the Democrat delegations, Senate will certify the Republican ones, and Senate legally wins. Will they respect the law in that case? Almost certainly not, but easier to call in the cavalry for a few hundred electors than the entire deep state.
I’m annoyed with everything that’s happened so far, but, having had some time to reflect and read up on past elections, not really all that surprised. This is far from over. We should at least wait two weeks, but technically the challenges can go all the way up until inauguration, and have successfully done so in the past.
Yes, I know, normalcy bias, I’m not suggesting that Trump will squeak out a victory without having to flex any muscle. Just, be patient. Each week is better than the previous week. Last week, legislatures wouldn’t even talk about this stuff, and the week before, fewer than half of Americans were acknowledging fraud (now it’s more like 70%). I’m watching the overall trajectory and I think, if you ignore all the noise, it’s trending in our direction.
Will probably still end in violence and war, but the question is how much violence and how long a war.
It’s looking more unlikely any of his cases will reach SCOTUS, he even said so himself. However, he may still win in the state legislatures which will likely force a SCOTUS ruling on the validity of state legislatures choosing their own electors. Those wins would be nice to have for legitimacy purposes before invoking the Insurrection Act.
@Jim:
“… because the legislatures will be ignored.â€
Remedial question: Ignored by whom?
By the civil service, by the multitude of bureaucrats that actually give effect to election results.
At some point they will need to have guns pointed at them.
It’s just so sad and humiliating. You think you’re being a nice guy, giving fair breaks to everybody, go to sleep in Mayberry, and then wake up in Planet if the Apes. Weak men make hard times.
I agree, the server story’s probability declined significantly after the hearing in Arizona. Still, hope springs eternal.
The courts and the legislatures look flimsier than ever.
Trump’s team arranged for the hearings before the legislatures because the courts wouldn’t listen to their cases.
As for the legislatures – for example, did you know the Michigan legislature declined to conduct a hearing? How about the silence of the vast majority of the republicans, the cucking or the outright treachery of ones such as the Arizona governor?
I listened to a recent interview with Trump – from Fox. He did not sound like a man confident of victory. Complaining that he can’t get a case before the Supreme Court., etc
It was a real blackpill.
The best chance Trump still has is the insurrection act. With or without the server, with as many people as he could get. Throw the dice.
They’ll throw him in prison anyway, for invented charges, even if he doesn’t play this last card. Him and his family. He has nothing to lose.
“How about the silence of the vast majority of the republicans, the cucking or the outright treachery of ones such as the Arizona governor?”
This is the thing I just can’t fathom. If you’re a Republican you know a big percentage of your voters are also Trump supporters. I can understand why you might not be brave enough to go out on a limb for him, but I can’t understand why you’d be lining up to stab him in the back. Do you really expect voters to reward you for it? In some cases (Georgia) they may be trying to hide another crime, but in all (of course, it’s not out of the question a lot of state officials are compromised in multiple states)?
Only the Sec of States and Governors are cucking. The State Legislatures are listening to the evidence. They may or may not cuck in the future but the fact they are even holding public hearings is a positive.
Normalcy bias. Voting no longer matters. All elections in the US can be rigged on command by the Democratic city machines now.
My guess is the governors, Ducey and Kemp, made background deals with Democratic leaders to guarantee their reelection in return for fast tracking the certification. Our political class is corrupt. This is nothing new.
Michigan state legislature is cucking.
They are apparently having a meeting with Trump attorneys tomorrow, but not an open hearing.
Pooch
It’s not only that voting no longer matters, and the republicans are buying their reelections from the democrats.
Arizona governor Douglas Anthony Ducey Jr. certified the election results DURING the Arizona hearing. Not a dew days before or after, which he could easily have done.
He wanted to be insulting to Trump, to publicly spit in the face of “Orange Man”. And he succeeded.
These “republicans” are ideologically aligned with the marxist democrats, and despise Trump.
We know for certain that’s what happened with Raffensperger, so it would hardly be a surprise to find other crypto-never-Trumpers. If Trump does invoke Insurrection act, I hope Kemp goes on the list; not entirely sure with Ducey.
They really think they can return to the days of establishment Republican politics. Insane fantasy.
Still, it’s hard to overstate the amount of lawfare and intimidation Democrats did prior to the election. Hindsight is always 20/20, but I don’t think Trump was aggressive enough in countering it when he had the chance. He did file a few suits, but his legal team was garbage – some of them have even started representing the traitor Republicans and some Democrats. Always personnel problems, fucking always.
Kemp and Ducey are definitely both going on the list. Trump is tweet storming hard against them both today, all but calling them traitors. He won’t forget.
People I know from AZ are telling me that Ducey is planning on another lockdown. Three weeks. That is the entire holiday shopping season gone for small retailers and local businesses. Thats game over for the economy there if he pulls it off. I suggested maybe a lynching was in order if that is true.
It seems Kristi Noem and Desantis are the only governors in the country that openly oppose any form of lockdown.
I’m on board. No need to convince me covid is a scam. Masks, distancing, shutdowns all a scam. I was on board with this concept back in early March.
And now that the vote has been denied, what’s the solution?
Do you wait for the thing to collapse and hope to break off a piece? Do you cut fence, run to another country. Sit back and enjoy the donkey show? Or morph into Alex Jones and invest in a megaphone and 8 Pack Power Stack.
Our whole country has turned into a three ring circus with its citizenry the dancing bears. Yes, the world is watching and they’re laughing their asses off in between shivering in fear of what a nuclear armed nation of crazies might do next.
My last comment wound up in the wrong place somehow. I was trying to respond to Jim’s Covid/SS thread.
Three solutions:
Fast. Win a civil war.
Slow. Wait for a Cromwell or a Stalin to end leftism getting ever lefter, and then wait for leftism to hollow out and die.
Slowest. Make sure that you and your children survive when everyone else kills each other, then re-occupy the ruins.
In that case, I’ll bet on DJTrump in lieu of a future unknown. But, he’ll have to drop the hammer.
Until then, I’ll stand at ease.
Highly unlikely but (grimly) hilarious outcome: Biden, whom everyone assumed was senile, compromised, checked out, and easily controllable, is the new Stalin.
The deep state thinks it can control the radicals. But, since the radicals are united by their faith, and the deep state is disunited by corruption, the deep state will find itself in the same situation as it found itself when it overthrew the Czar.
It does seem to be the typical republican behavior to attack your own side for the crime of fighting the enemy. Blah blah ‘democratic norms’ blah ‘principles’ etc. etc. whatever justifies cowardice.
Making deals with democrats is a devil’s bargain but some people just can’t help themselves. “Sure you betrayed us 99 times but I have a good feeling about #100.”
Have to clear out the unreliable types. The Tea Party almost gained full control of the right once we can do it again with Trump.
For the left its a war of annihilation since rightism of course can’t exist in their utopia.
If you do not have in mind that the end goal needs to be the a war of total annihilation against the progressive religion (and its cousins such as Marxism) ala the war against the Cathars you will always make these kinds of mistakes.
Posting this up top for the new guys.
Tall me teacher’s pet I guess, but Jim’s phrase on Gab today is crystal:
“Holy war is coming, and the very holy are much too holy to accept surrender.”
Neurotoxin is reading the same handwriting:
“We cannot surrender – even if we wanted to – because if we do they will genocide us.”
I wonder why more aren’t voicing this “out loud” on Twitter, or OANN or Newsmax, or wherever, but I think Moldbug even had it right back in the good old days: To sound the alarm against historical patterns of left wing violence is to “incite hatred” today:
“Your fear makes you scary.”
What a status test! Does your fear qualify you for privilege and protection, or derision and punishment?
Holy war might be coming but it’s not there (in the US) yet. The left spiral is not spinnig fast enough. To get to required rpm’s you need an impetus such as a huge economic crisis. Once you, Americans, are far enough in the green new deal implementation, then holy war.
No.
It’s not popular in these parts, but I’m somewhat inclined to agree. I have a suspicion that things aren’t bad enough yet. We have recent memories of much better times, but the reality is that people will tolerate a lot before taking any serious risks to themselves. Furthermore, the white democratic old guard is still around for a few more years, and they do act as a moderating force.
I’m personally into being prepared for every eventuality, but not making particularly strong predictions. I’ve seen very smart people be very wrong again and again. I’m just trying to make sure, personally, that being wrong doesn’t make me dead, and that I can grow my personal power and my network regardless of broader political and economic circumstances.
He, and now you, are missing the point: holy war is upon you, whether you would risk it or not.
It doesn’t matter if things aren’t “aren’t bad enough” because the people having those things done to them are not the ones declaring and waging war. They can roll over and pray for a quick death, but they will be casualties of the holy war regardless.
Is my impression that Trump hasn’t left the White House in weeks correct, and if so, any thoughts on why? Even more concerned than usual about assassination attempts? Worried if he leaves deep state operatives will dig up all the nice land mines he buried in the lawn and change the locks?
Doesn’t he go golfing? He went once at least.
That was soon after the election. I mean in the past two weeks or so.
Oh, apparently he went golfing again over Thanksgiving, but that was still close to home in nearby VA. So it’s not so extreme as not leaving the White House at all, but he also seems not to be making in-person appearances outside the White House, nor travelling around the country, though he’s slated to rally in Georgia on Saturday (postponed from this past Saturday, I believe?). Guess it’s all part of the bigger question of how he’s using his time lately… could just be focused on staying on top of all the legal challenges, or something else.
Interesting…Lin Wood is calling for the military to conduct a new election if the state legislatures and courts fail.
https://twitter.com/LLinWood/status/1333788036815937537
Now Dominion are apparently moving evidence against court orders. Seems things are heating up, insurrection act can’t be far away (I hope).
How will the insurrection act work in practice? Does Trump pull out an envelope from his pocket at the rally and read the order to the people? A statement from the White House? A Tweet? Or will the military just roll up and start making arrests?
I don’t think anyone knows except Jim.
This looks to have been relatively unmolested by SJWs as yet: https://www.history.com/news/insurrection-act-thomas-jefferson-aaron-burr
The bottom line is that the Insurrection Act has been invoked many times, most recently under the elder Bush – so it’s really not a fringe idea, nor does it immediately trigger civil war.
It just gives the President wide-ranging powers to do many things that would ordinarily be unconstitutional – not that constitutionality matters much anymore, so it’s more like a rhetorical pretext. And it’s different every time; there’s no set process for dealing with an insurrection, and this one is unlike many others in the past, so it’s really impossible to predict how it would play out.
Dawn raids on election officials and counting offices seems like a good start, though. In terms of public legitimacy, the refusal to allow signature verification is just a really obvious indicator of criminal activity, there’s no way to frame it so normalfags would perceive it as orange Hitler.
I’d love to see them lock up a lot of the partisan judges, spooks, and benefactors, but I don’t think he will, even if he does invoke the Act. Unfortunately.
https://macris.substack.com/p/trump-at-the-rubicon
has a lot of the details on the Insurrection Act.
The law is very thin about what Trump can and cannot do.
Not thin at all: The words, and the ample precedents, are that he can do anything. The insurrection act is fundamentally a legalization of what Lincoln did.
The insurrection act rests on Article Four of the United States constitution.
Lincoln proceeded to administratively arrest people all over the place, without bothering with application of the legislature or executive, and hold them in administrative detention in military prisons for years, and the latest version of the insurrection act, like all of it predecessors, which have been invoked many times, proceeds to legalize what Lincoln did – doing it unilaterally, without application of the legislature or the executive.
What is legal? What limits Trump must abide by with the Insurrection Act? No limits. If men with guns arrest judges without guns, that is legal. What legal limits has the King? The reach of his armed men. Insurrection Act is “Break glass and remove King in case of emergency.”
Once this is all over, Trump will amend the Insurrection Act to make anything he did retroactively legal for next time.
From the point of view of a lawyer (which I am), the law *is* thin. There are few statutes and very few court cases.
You are correct that works in the President’s favor. The point of the article is that Trump can commandeer every able-bodied man in the US tomorrow should he so choose.
We agree on the fundamentals, I’m just clarifying what I mean when I say the “law is thin”. I don’t mean weak, I mean, there’s not many statues, regulations, or cases about it.
So Ike invoked the Insurrection Act to enforce integration in Little Rock…what a travesty…
What’s the travesty? That the IA was invoked to destroy segregation or that it was invoked by Eisenhower?
I find it surprising that American Brahmins seem so ignorant of their history. Eisenhower successfully 1) sidelined Patton, 2) won WWII for the Soviet Union (and got the Soviet Medal to prove it), and 3) firmly established East Germany through acts of omission (like allowing Soviets to take Berlin) and commission (as Governor of occupied West Germany). And that’s only his military career.
He got into politics, specifically Republican politics, as a proxy candidate to use his “war hero” charisma to push for global war against Taft’s sane, isolationist agenda. The man established NATO, handed China to the Communists while maintaining Taiwan, established democracy and freedom by creating “South Vietnam,” precipitated a hated coup in Iran (that became a driver for the Iraniana’s souring on the USA). His vaunted “anti-communism” was in full show when the Soviet-backed Nasser expropriated the Suez Canal company and Eisenhower refused to allow his nominal allies’ military occupation, but when the Soviet Union thumbed its nose at NATO and invaded Hungary he did nothing (because it was most probably orchestrated by a rival wing of US spooks). The Bay of Pigs fucked up “invasion” was his idiocy, even though Kennedy got the “credit” for that.
Domestically, he neutralised attempts to undo the “New Deal,” and kept McCarthy out of power, thus keeping Communist traitors well entrenched. I emphasise, he could only have done this as a Republican, as an enemy from within.
Oh yeah, about “military-industrial complex” — this is a meme to rile peasants up against the Kshatriya-Vaishya alliance that built America. The Soviet Union couldn’t have engineered a better linguistic kill shot (or maybe they did). “Soldier-bourgeois alliance” (eg, the Whites in Russia), didn’t have the American ring to it that “military-industrial complex” did. And the idiot peasants lapped it all up, of course. Still do.
All in all, he was either a neocon hawk or a Communist (but I repeat myself). The only people daring enough to speak this truth were the John Birch Society.
China went communist before the Eisenhower administration.
I agree with the Bircher’s on most things but the “Ike was a communist” I just don’t agree. Ike just was not paranoid enough about communists. The idea that he won WWII for the Soviet Union… well the Soviets were doing most of the fighting what exactly was he supposed to do. As far as racing to Berlin or something he did approve Market Garden which was supposed to get us quickly to Berlin… it failed not because Ike was trying to lose but because someone allied intelligence (and if there were real communists it was probably there) missed the fact that there were multiple SS panzer divisions in Holland (the German troops in Holland were supposed to be mostly “old men and young boys”).
But Ike was the one who came up with MAD and built our nuclear arsenal. Given the lack of ground troops in the West vs the Soviets it probably was the best idea… though terribly risky.
The most communist suspicious thing he ever did was how he acted during the Suez affair.
Destruction of evidence is rampant..http://voxday.blogspot.com/2020/12/this-is-why-they-say-there-is-no.html#comment-form
Smells like more disinfo. I see photos of trucks, but the photos do not show where the trucks are. If they were really taken at one of the ballot stations then that’s a rookie mistake for whomever took the snaps.
Vox Day does seem to be susceptible to what you call qtardery. I remember a post he did about a month ago, speculating that Hunter Biden died of a crack overdose : http://voxday.blogspot.com/2020/10/rumors.html
On the other hand, it doesn’t seem too far-fetched to think courts media etc are actively preventing any hard evidence of voter fraud from becoming publicly known. This would fit with their MO of letting communists and feral minorities burn and loot stuff while punishing decent people.
Personally, I don’t need any more evidence of the perfidy of the left. I’ve seen enough.
That was Pompey’s big mistake.
Which big mistake eventually forced Caesar to cross the Rubicon.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/sidney-powell-witness-hospital-beating/
Sidney Powell: The witnesses’ have been threatened. One witness she knows of got beaten up and is in the hospital.
This, coupled with the present hearings presenting ample evidence of massive election fraud and with the FBI/DOJ’s inaction, is more than enough justification for invoking the insurrection act, at least in order to get armed men to the ballots and voting machines, followed by a proper audit.
Will Trump do it or wait for an illusory Supreme Court ruling, or a deal with the democrats that will never happen?
Listening to the witnesses in Michigan and it is truly horrifying what they are describing in Detroit.
Here’s something interesting – we already knew about Amistad’s work and the FBI supposedly requesting their data (no doubt in order to discredit it somehow), but check out the Zuckerberg allegations below the fold: https://www.newsmax.com/t/newsmax/article/999369
If those allegations are true, then so much for Zuck being neutral or reluctant in his Cathedral faith. I had hoped he was another Havel’s Greengrocer, but if he really did pump $400 million into the election fraud, then he absolutely isn’t.
Zuck is Havel’s Greengrocer and when his master demanded money to help rig the election he gave as commanded. As Trump turned off the spigots of goverment money the left had to shake down the oligarch class hard.
However, such behavior will warrant his death. Either his commie masters will kill him or someone on the right will.
Don’t think Zuck is a pure Havel’s greengrocer. Social media and the left have a symbiotic relationship. Observe that all the data protection laws–in the EU and in California, ostensibly anti-Facebook and anti-Google, did not hurt these companies at all, in fact they protected them from competition. It’s kabuki theater (probably orchestrated by lawyers of those companies) while the left kills industry and small business for real.
They are as complicit as Soros now at this point (at least Zuck and Dorsey), and that’s why they deserve to die (after being questioned, possibly under torture). Google is maybe somewhat less guilty, but not by much. The founders of Google were truly Havel’s greengrocers (and were wise to get out), maybe also Bill Gates, but not those that are currently at the helm.
The left will kill tech nerds first, but they will spare Zuck until about the point they kill Soros too.
Google way way more guilty than Zuck. Zuck hates parting with money… no way he did it willingly.
We’ve been learning the ugly truth about an awful lot of people lately. Perhaps he did what he did for selfish rather than ideological reasons, but I’m not going to assume he was coerced.
It was a while back, but I remember Zuck making a little noise about not wanting to censor, then a bunch of negative articles and that movie about him came out. I can’t remember what the order was, but if it was in the order I remember, then it was a warning. “Nice company, it’d be a shame if a judge gave it to someone else.” After that he buckled. It wasn’t just coercion, it was a shakedown. “Do what we say or you will lose everything.” Possibly something to take into account. Either we kill him or deport him to Israel, but when this is all finished we definitely shouldn’t let him stay in the USA.
Zuck cut deals with a non-agreement-capable party. As did Soros.
Google is much closer with the spooks (because more attractive for them, more relevant data) but Youtube doesn’t censor as much as Facebook, although that depends on the country to an extent. On the other hand google search censorship is brutal and has crippled the search engine. Duckduckgo now actually has better and more relevant results on almost any topic.
https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/nation/barr-no-evidence-of-fraud-thatd-change-election-outcome/
Barr may have been better than Sessions but obviously he is not our friend.
Barr admits that the DOJ isn’t looking for electoral fraud evidence and that it’s up to local entities to do top down audits.
“He said people were confusing the use of the federal criminal justice system with allegations that should be made in civil lawsuits. He said such a remedy for those complaints would be a top-down audit conducted by state or local officials, not the U.S. Justice Department.”
Barr says the DOJ does not have evidence of widespread voter fraud that would change election results – because the DOJ is not looking for evidence of widespread voter fraud that would change the election results. Not our job he says.
Bar saved some pedo biggies in Washington from prosecution, what would you expect:
see some old news here: ronaldthomaswest.com/tag/william-barr
Wow what a piece of shit.
The military has private misgivings about Biden’s links to China.
Links? Hunter’s probably selling out every advanced tech we have to China as we type. Probably not a lot to sell considering how advanced the Chinese have become.
It was a quote attributed to Chuck Grassley.
“His [Hunter and Joe Biden] financial dealings with China makes him a threat to National Security. The military has said privately ‘There CAN NOT be a President Biden.’â€
Take it with a grain of salt. It’s consistent with the opinions of other military personnel in my social circle.
I’m happy to hear that.
Whitepill.
I hope that doesn’t mean its okay if they whack Biden and install Kameltoe immediately…
China loaned $400 million to Dominion, and so effectively controls the entire corporate group….Quite an operation, we have to admit, to kneecap the nuisance that the USA represented…
If this is confirmed, the military will not be happy at all about it.
On the other hand, the CIA/FBI/etc seem so far gone, I doubt they care.
Not confirmed, seems to be refuted, appears maybe to be accidental misinformation rather than disinfo. There are comments and explanations in the Vox thread where this undoubtedly came from.
(Side note, I follow him too, but is it really necessary to rebroadcast everything he says about the election over here? We can all read his stuff directly if we want to know what he’s saying. Like the Gateway Pundit whom he himself is rebroadcasting, he doesn’t do any verification whatsoever; it really adds a ton of noise to the conversation here. Keep Jim blog and Vox blog separate, please.)
Everyone’s showing their true colors. Guess I was wrong about Barr. Either a traitor or a coward, and at this point it doesn’t really matter which one.
Barr’s a traitor as I’ve been claiming for months. Barr shutdown the Mueller inquisition and maybe he gathered up actual loyalist forces when Trump pushed him enough but Mueller was mostly played out by the time Barr stepped in. He also talked the talked, but then again so did Sessions. The only time he actually did anything was when Trump pushed him very hard and even then he did it half heatedly.
I think Trump had Barr setup an operation that was suppose to stop the fraud and they instead did nothing. The FBI and GA SOS are going to release white washing of election fraud shortly.
Barr was and is a Swamp creature…If Trump expected anything different, he was nuts…
Barr appointed Durham as special counsel Oct. 19th. What is this about?
https://twitter.com/alexsalvinews/status/1333869514581131264?s=20
Likely to stop the release of information.
Yeah, if you want something not investigated, Durham is the best guy to not do it.
Barr has always been a Trojan Horse. Always there to say “oh that’s terrible” while doing nothing.
Today DJTrump tweets whistle blower evidence. I want to see Trump do the biggest whistle blow in history. Declassify all the dirty laundry back to Kennedy and beyond.
OK wise guy. How could Trump actually do that?
He could say and tweet all kinds of things, but extracting that information from the CIA, or J Edgar Hoover’s tomb, or wherever the hell it actually is, would take raging gunfights and hundreds of those Counterstrike peel-and-stick wall-busting bomb things.
So tell us right now. How could Trump actually release that information?
It begins…
https://www.nbc4i.com/news/politics/ohio-political-group-asks-trump-to-impose-martial-law-hold-new-election/
It needs to start out as just a discussion, a thought that is placed into the public’s mind. I’m glad a group called for it. now let’s see more.
And General Flynn retweeting it:
https://twitter.com/GenFlynn/status/1333916403389370369?s=20
The hold a new election thing is retarded. We already had one and Trump won.
An election held under supervision of US troops, like a Parliament held under supervision of General Monck’s troops, will return the result we want.
Sure it would but the problem is if Trump reads the insurrection act and crosses the Rubicon its a big mistake to not dispatch his three possible Democrat successors to their infernal reward.
The 1st thing you do in a coup is eliminate all competing potential heads of state/government. The three need to go on the 1st day.
What Trump desperately needs, if he invokes the insurrection act, is legitimacy. The soldiers, especially, must think they support the legitimate president, which legally won the election. Despite what all media, state, and generals will say.
Meaning, killing one’s opponents is out.
Soldiers exist to kill one’s opponents. Legitimacy regards who gives the orders and who chooses the opponents.
What you’re saying makes no sense at all. Or it’s spin, framing a just war as partisan revenge (i.e. how the left thinks and therefore imagines the right).
First, Trump must convince the soldiers to fight for him. At present, that’s his major problem.
And if what Trump says, from the start no less, even hints as being partisan revenge or dictatorial dictates, a lot of soldiers will believe their generals, media, deep state, and will not follow him.
Only after the soldiers accept him as legitimate authority, as opposed to the generals, the democrats and most of the GOP, and the media, can Trump give the order to kill his political opponents. If such orders are heavily justified.
Thinking that it’s a good idea for Trump to start by giving the order to murder his political enemies as usurpers, part of a self-declared just war, is simply a puerile revenge fantasy.
That’s already done. Happened when Trump freed Eddie Gallagher.
Support your assertion or you’re just another shill.
BC
You really want to believe Trump has the army behind him – or, at least, the vast majority of the army. And you don’t like someone to question this assertion.
But, if so, why didn’t Trump invoke the insurrection act today, in the speech I already linked to?:
https://www.facebook.com/153080620724/posts/10165908467175725/
This speech makes it plain Trump knows what’s at stake for him and his family if he surrenders.
Yet Trump didn’t invoke the insurrection act. He tested the waters ~’what will be the reaction to this speech unequivocally listing the election fraud and the decision not to surrender?’
BC, you don’t test the waters if you’re sure you have the support you need. More than necessary, really, if the army is behind you.
The legal process is not yet exhausted and Trump needs to get more normie conservatives ready for the idea…
Lin Wood’s high energy rally today was all but a call to arms. We are getting there slowly but surely.
@XYZ
Because Caesar didn’t cross the Rubicon until all peaceful methods had been pursued.
LOL if you kill your enemies they win.
You are virtually guaranteed success in a coup if you can take out the alternate possible heads of state and make it known that it happened… then its your loyalists with unity of command vs a disunited and demoralized mass.
The July plot would have almost 100% succeeded if Hitler and maybe Goering were actually dead (Himmler was probably in on the July plot but in a plausibly deniable way, also he NEVER would have been accepted as head of state).
You can try a decapitation strike if the army – or at least the tip of the spear part of it – is rock solid on your part.
You seem to say a few loyal soldiers are enough. And they are, for the assassination. But not for gaining command afterward. Yours would be a desperation strategy.
I think Trump didn’t invoke the insurrection act yet because he’s worried he doesn’t have enough muscle.
It’s pretty clear by now he understands what will happen to him and his family if he were to lose power.
Also, Biden is not his actual opponent. He’s a front for the power centers that oppose Trump.
I agree, though, that him disappearing will confuse the enemy command and control system. Shadowy power centers don’t get to directly command the muscle.
Of course he is worried about it; nearly everyone who declares war is worried they might lose, except maybe low-functioning Muslims and Africans who are incapable of the self-awareness required to worry. Very few wars are ever won as quickly and decisively as you seem to believe that Trump needs to be certain of before making a move. For that, you’re just another cuckservative and/or shill, pushing a slightly different twist on the same old “he is weak, he is falling, he has fallen” narrative.
I’ve come to see Trump’s major problem as excessive optimism. He is clearly a huge optimist and that allows him to keep fighting long after anyone else would have given up. But every coin has two sides, and if you look at his entire political career, every mistake he’s ever made, it all comes from being too optimistic. “Maybe I can replace Flynn; maybe Sessions is just a little slow; maybe Rosenstein is a consummate professional; maybe the GOPe will pass the legislation I want; maybe the Federalist Society guys are okay; maybe the Russia thing will blow over once they realize it’s bullshit; maybe they’ll report on Biden’s corruption; maybe we’ve got the election process locked down enough; maybe the media will back down when they realize no one believes them; maybe the courts will look at our evidence; maybe the state legislatures will declare fraud”, and it just goes on.
Optimism like this is kind of what makes Trump Trump, and the thing is, he often does find that one golden opportunity amidst the avalanche of evil, incompetence and betrayal, but it means that he is going to keep pursuing certain avenues long after most of us have concluded that it is hopeless. If you sat Trump and Jim in a room, I think the former would spend a long time telling the latter not to worry, everything is fine.
Unfortunately this optimism means that if he does cross the rubicon, it’s going to be at the last possible minute. But it would honestly not surprise me if he doesn’t; his irrational optimism will tell him that maybe all the rhetoric is just bluster, maybe they don’t really intend to jail him, and certainly don’t intend to kill his family and supporters, maybe he can come back in 4 years… etc. We all believe this to be absurd, and we say Trump “knows” this as well, but you really do have to factor in that optimism bias.
I think he may only fight if his back is truly up against the wall. Not just in imminent danger of probably being put up against the wall soon, but actually right there, right now, one day before inauguration and they’re standing outside with pitchforks and torches (or machine guns), and then he will act, and hopefully it will not be too late.
It’s kind of a black pill, but like I said, his absurd optimism often turns out to be the correct course of action, and even if it’s not, it’s still more believable than your nonsense about the troops being disloyal or against him. If he said “go” today, he’d win by the end of the week, but he just doesn’t want to do it that way, because it just goes against his nature. “Fortunately” (for America, not for him), the Cathedral is entirely out of control and almost certainly will get his back up against the wall while he still has the power to strike back. We’ll see.
Trump is too optimistic about people and too trusting. That is his problem, he would be better served by being a LOT more paranoid.
Suddenly I’m looking back at all the histories of all the “paranoid” kings who eventually led “cruel and unnecessary” purges of intellectuals and wondering: maybe they weren’t so paranoid after all?
Not Tom
The extreme optimism you attribute to Trump would be nothing more than foolishness.
Nobody who gets to president of the USA is that foolish. Nobody.
And you make the claim that Trump is this foolish in order to not to look at the MAIN PROBLEM in such volatile situations: who has the muscle.
~He doesn’t invoke the insurrection act because he’s so foolishly optimist, not because he’s frantically counting heads, trying to get more muscle.
You’re also awfully quick to throw labels such as shrill and cuckservative when your emotional comfort zone is threatened by arguments you don’t want to look at.
To think you said I am emotionally incontinent.
You come on here out of nowhere and post shill comments and facebook links. Don’t clutch your pearls when he calls a spade a spade.
INDY
Yes, I did post a facebook link with a 45 minute Trump speech, about the election fraud.
But, to read your comment, that’s a triviality, yes, INDY? Shrill comments.
You’re grasping at straws.
I explained exactly why it’s not (necessarily), but as usual, you’re either incapable of comprehending or prohibited by policy.
The vast majority of American presidents and political figures in general are incredibly foolish, little more than a stage act for the permanent government. Trump is the first in a long time to be anything other than a proxy, and you’d have to be insanely optimistic to believe you can reform the US government. Most of us would rather scrap it and start over.
A question that has been debated at length here on many occasions but which you, again, predictably, refuse to acknowledge. The warriors are on Trump’s side; the effete generals (“perfumed princes”) are not.
I don’t care if you technically passed a shill test, I’m going to keep treating you like a faggot shill until you stop acting like one. So far, all you’ve done and continue to do is persistently try to create a false dilemma between despair and kookery, and give the superficial appearance of conversation while really continuing an endless monologue. Respectful treatment is reserved for people who add value, in the form of insight, humor, or morale.
Icon still sounds like a shill, but he is giving a better simulation of a human than the usual npc shills, so I keep him around to see what the shills are up to.
Yes, black pilling and random kook misinfo.
Notoriously, entryists sometimes defect to the group that they are entering, and operate as triple agents, working for both sides and against both sides, as Obama’s mother did, working for and against the Soviets. So they are kept on a very tight leash, to prevent them from engaging in conversations that might result in them defecting. Icon’s leash seems to have been somewhat loosened.
You made it very explicit what shills need to do to not be banned, and banned a lot of shills who didn’t do it, so this was inevitable.
Let us all pause and hat tip their very smart memeing of martial law being the alternative to Civil War, as opposed to civil war in itself. That wasn’t an accident.
It’s just like “You can’t be against Antifa because the word “Antifa†just means “anti-fascistâ€, and you’re not anti-anti-fascism, are you?â€
Brain-scrambling Talmudic demons they!
So, hats off to those guys for linguistically pinning “civil war†on the other guys. The heavyweights are rising to the top.
The cathedral is now making up a BS story about Trump selling pardons proving to Trump that they intend to legally persecute him, legally intend to persecute anyone connected to him whether he pardons them or not and that they are not agreement capable.
This is the biggest whitepill I’ve seen… they’ve just forced Trump to cross the Rubicon. Deus Vult we will win.
This is the equivalent of the senate refusing Caesar a single legion province and then attacking a tribune.
Isnt this exact thing what made Caesar invade rome? conviction post consulship?
It was clear what Caesar’s enemies intended when they refused him command of a lesser province.
Please comment on why they couldn’t bring themselves to let him have just some little province somewhere to be the boss of and let the stand-off play itself out peacefully.
I can guess just by analogy — knowing nothing of Roman history at all but only projecting our present situation onto them — and guess that they just knew that the people were with him, and not with them, but paradoxically also just couldn’t imagine that they could possibly lose. Normalcy bias. If they just said the magic words and pushed the magic papers around, they’d magically win and Julius would magically “go awayâ€.
That I can do, but I’m completely faking it. If anyone can fill in a little from actual historical competence, I’ll appreciate it.
The Roman Senate wasn’t agreement capable and want Ceasar dead for the threatening their corruption. Just as they say with Trump, it’s not enough just to defeat him, they must also destroy him so another Trump never rises again.
Here’s a simplified version of it:
https://youtu.be/SYxN134gb-8
Shorter if you want to get to the negotiations:
https://youtu.be/SYxN134gb-8?t=1297
Exactly so.
This has been replayed many times before, with the best documented, most famous, and perhaps the original play being Rome.
We are getting Rome/Pompey, and expecting Rome/Caesar.
Why do you think he’s more like Pompey? Caesars popularity with the plebs seems remarkably similar to Trump’s popularity with the deplorables.
Pompey was initially somewhat pleb aligned.
Was (illegally) summoned by the Senate to restore order (which disorder was a symptom of the corruption and moral decay of the elite). Pompey then got in bed with decadent and corrupt elite, which was a really bad idea. These were not the aristocrats of the Old Republic.
Pompey started out as a semi independent general (he raised a private army because his father was immensely rich) aligned with Sulla which would make him a psuedo Optimate when he started out (though Sulla was not a pure optimate in his policies at all he was an “optimate” because Sulla’s enemies used Marius as a figurehead).
Then when Sulla died Pompey became temporarily a staunch Populares. Then when he became jealous of Caesar (who was originally a much much juniour partner to him) he became an optimate again…
The elite of Rome feared a powerful and popular Caesar more than a powerful and popular Pompey because Caesar actually was a descendent of Romulus and Remus and theoretically of the Gods. Pompey’s family were rich Italians who had recently bought Roman citizenship and their way into the Senate, they looked down on him in some ways as an upstart but they didn’t think he could establish a dynasty because he didn’t have the blood.
I really should have more comments on this, lets celebrate…
The Democrats and derp state just made it absolutely 100% crystal clear that Trump MUST cross. Even if he is too cowardly he now MUST fight.
Our enemies, the enemies of all Americans, lack the internal discipline and cohesion to hold back. As the State Department under Hillary and Obama drifted rudderless towards great power war with Russia, they are drifting rudderless into civil war – a war, which being premature, we are likely to win.
Comes the hour, comes the man. Trump does not want this and is trying to avoid it, but the tide of history has him in its grasp.
It starts to look as if for him and his family to survive, he has to summon the unorganized militia and organize them under the authority of the Insurrection Act.
Well the idea is to scare off all of his remaining people, but no one can issue me a “pardon†from the left singularity punishment machine that the next guy won’t tear up and eat in front of me.
“I can try to dance and cajole and charm my way out of this… or just shoot him.â€
How read up on Roman history is Trump? He’s smart. He must know the similarities of his and Casear’s.
He doesn’t need to know the history to know that they’ve just absolutely 100% forced him to cross… with the amount of cucking about overturning this fraud and Trump making cucky noises (prior to this) about leaving office if legal options fail.
Trump now HAS TO fight with force if lawfare fails.
Gentlemen this is a miracle…
Indeed it is.
Be of good cheer, we shall have war.
Only seeing it on CNN as of now. If it starts being megaphoned on the rest of the Cathedral outlets, Trump will know they are serious about it.
Trump knows they are serious about it already I guarantee you.
This is a miracle!
It is megaphoned at least here. A few weeks ago they also ‘predicted’ Trump would give out pardons as did CNN I believe.
Late 2020 lamestream media is a parody of early 2020 lamestream media. They now ‘predict’ stuff (which they imagine as priests makes them sound wise and mighty), which inevitably fails to materialize and then lie about what happened. They lack even the capacity for spin now.
https://jonathanturley.org/2020/12/01/daily-beast-editor-and-lincoln-project-advisor-calls-for-humiliation-and-incarceration-for-trump-supporters/
The left cannot help themselves.
They should shut up about planned terror until after they have won and their enemies are disarmed.
This isn’t even really someone on the left this is mental case Rick Wilson who is not really a leftist just a RINO who grifts who may have huge mental problems or larps at it convincingly I’m not sure.
Rick Wilson is saying the quiet part out loud trying to be eaten last.
Great propaganda for our side.
Lincoln Project is one of those phenomena that I can’t get my head around there being even one single person who’s genuinely enthusiastic about it. It’s like the “Marvin and the Chipmunks the Movie†of politics. Someone paid money to go see that?
Which is dangerous for me, because I’m begging for a Sun Tzu ass kicking. I think “Nawwww there’s no one who actually believes thatâ€, but it do.
I know I know the Jewish connection and trying to skin-suit and out-Pharisee what they shallowly perceive to be American principles, but Rick Wilson isn’t Jewish, so what the hell?
Anyone who can help me understand who these people are, and what they believe about themselves, along any particular “coordinate spaceâ€, do help me out.
It’s a grifter operation by GOP grifters who backed the wrong side when Trump came to power. Dems paid for it and the girfted a shit out of the Dems in 2020 for no gains.
They’re traitors to the GOP but for having been part of the GOP they know their heads are on the chopping block by leftists. So they’re screaming what the leftists are saying quietly in order to out holy them in an attempt to save their own necks. Won’t work, but it’s natural for them to try it.
In the end, you may conclude that a person could spend a lifetime wringing their hands like a circle of learned elders at a botched brit milah.
Only to arrive at the reality of life is to quickly acquire a willing breeding receptacle before the clock runs out.
If it don’t make white babies, it don’t make sense.
What does this have to do with anything? Starting to sound scripted again.
Yeah, sure, making babies is great, and we aren’t talking about that right now. Don’t derail.
It is blackpilling – that we have to survive the fall of white civilization. It may well come to that, but it has not yet come to that. Trump has the Sulla option in his pocket and the Lincoln precedent. The Eastern Roman Empire had a pretty good run, and I have plans for sovereign corporations based on proof of stake blockchains, which may well make it possible for science and technology to survive political decay.
If Trump fails to take the Sulla option, my plan is to implement sovereign corporations while hoping for a Cromwell or a Stalin and or the Eastern Roman Empire.
Jim, the plans are the easy part.
To actually bring into being such sovereign corporations, you need resources and power. A lot of both.
I assume you must be using a definition of “sovereign corporation” that is different from Moldbug’s, unless you have a large pirate army you’ve been keeping a secret all this time.
More like an ICO, but with proof of stake, rather than proof of work.
Eventually sovereign corporations will have their own assassin drones and close ground support drones, but that will not be for a long time, or even very important when it eventually happens. Rather, the important thing is to replace the USG as root node for the currency, the name system, the identity system, and the official truth system.
@Jim The real breakthrough in crypto will be for intelligent contract-based corporations to be able to issue shares that collectively grant or withhold executive control over the treasury’s various payment operations. This solves much of the problem of trust between members of clandestine organizations that up until now have relied on some omerta / honor among thieves system. I suppose something like that is the focus of your work?
Exactly so. Shares (currency of the corporation) have to control the corporation.
Proof of stake, rather than proof of work. Power has to be located in client wallets, (preferably hardware client wallets, but you have to get significant interest in the software wallet before a major hardware wallet will provide support), but exercised by peers, after the model of the corporations with shareholders, board, and company director. The shares choose the board, and the board the director.
Ledger has apps for some pretty obscure assets. Surely you can get more traction than Stratis or QRL…
USG is already on the threat of crypto wallets:
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25283610 [Is the US Banning Crypto Wallets?]
Pointing out that if a nation can’t win the political game, propaganda game, or immigration game, they can’t stop people from breeding.
Outbreeding them is how you win because they cheat at everything else.
Now is the perfect time. Cold months. Covid furlough. It may seem pessimistic, but if you don’t have an army to command, free speech or a right to vote, that is your best course of action: make baby.
We cannot outbreed them because marriage 1.0 is illegal, and child protective services are apt to snatch children from their biological fathers on absurdly slender excuses in order to protect them from the toxic masculinity caused by the influence of straight males.
In order to outbreed them, we have to restore the social order under which white people have rapid population growth and eugenic fertility.
If you were a white supremacist, and believed in white supremacy, or even knew your history, you would know that a few hundred white men can effect the conquest of vast empires of browns. This led to massive miscegenation in Mexico, but not in the areas formerly ruled by the Inca Empire, which are still very white. I will worry about our race going extinct when there are no politically unified settlements of whites numbering more than a thousand.
Whites are wolf to whites.
In the worst case outcome, there will be rather few wolves in a sea of sheep. So long as some whites survive somewhere, we will be back some time in the future. The problem that will face us is making sure our descendants are around for that future.
@Aidan Maclear
This apparent paradox is because most “white supremacists” aren’t really “white supremacists” at all. The mere term “white supremacy” itself is a muddling of reality.
Every race, including Aryan, has its Brahmins, Kshatriyas, Vaishyas, and Shudras. What you mean is that Aryan warriors and priests (that is, Kshatriyas and Brahmins) can conquer vast empires, and Aryan Vaishyas can develop great prosperity there subsequently. What most “white supremacists” mean, however, is that, being part of the same race as the conquerors entitles them to the fruits of their labours. It’s essentially “whites only” Marxism. They’re not really “white” supremacists because they’re aware they’re Shudras and incapable of conquering or running any empires, brown or otherwise, but want to feel superior and equal to their betters in society by basking in reflected glory.
The only reason any Shudras exist at all is because a strong labour force is needed to build any civilization, which started with the first settled villages. Shudras all know this in their hearts. Some feel content with all the material comforts that society provides them, while others feel resentful of the hand that feeds them. It is these latter that are vastly represented in the “white supremacy” loser crowd (apart from straight-up shills, that is). If Aryans get reduced to roving bands (like our forefathers), then the Shudras will cease to exist at all. That’s what they’re afraid of, hence their focus on breeding (which they are admittedly very good at). Total fertility doesn’t matter at all. It’s elite fertility that counts, and that is going down everywhere.
Exactly so: Nazis are National Socialists, and socialism in Germany caused the usual socialist famine.
@Jim
Herd behaviour is a characteristic of lower animals. The higher the animal, the more individualistic it gets. Co-operation among the enlightened can only take place under strict conditions of mutual benefit that are rigidly enforced, hence the need for monarchy.
In the absence of good leadership you end up with each of us going crazy, but in his own individualistic way, and ending up like Baron Roman von Ungern-Sternberg.
You are a bigger optimist than I. You ignore the presence of Yellow Wolves. White wolves aren’t the only game in town. Consider Singapore. The “country” was founded by Hindus (from the mythical “Singhpur” — Abode of Lions), and successfully resisted the Islamification of, for example, Java and Malaya, only to lose to Chinese. Now, of course, the only “Hindu” facet of Singapore is its name. All “Indians” living there are either inveterate Shudras or rootless Vaishyas.
Of course, you may think the Chinese may spare some of you, and it would be natural to expect that. But they won’t.
Who repeatedly launched attacks on the Chinese while outnumbered ten to one, with massively inferior military equipment, and repeatedly defeated them, inflicting to ten to one casualties on them.
He conquered a state on the periphery of China, and could have conquered an empire on the periphery of China, His big mistake was when he attacked whites.
If there are so few whites left that we no longer get in each others hair, the Chinese will find themselves in deep shit.
History is that whites are the apex predator.
This might be a misunderestimating 😉 of their motivations. It reduces their thought process to “I like money,” a very Marxist thing to do. A grifter who is actually after money will behave much like a capitalist. These are ideologically motivated, not financially motivated, similar to Woke Capital. Failure to grasp this has led to many a downfall.
Of course, if you ask me I’ll tell you they are ackchually spiritually motivated because inner demons and all, but I’m a rightist outlier.
In a regime where the state religion is wokeness and sinecures for the woke Elect are generous, a grifter who is actually after money will preach wokeness as loudly as the most sincere acolyte.
I’m not denying there exists a difference, but it’s more subtle than you’re saying.
It’s not so far-fetched in the context of the GOP. You have to understand how they operate: promotions and political appointments within the party are quite literally based on fundraising. You want to be Speaker of the House or Senate Majority Leader or on one of the various Committees, you’d better bring in lots of money.
So it’s a combination of status grift – they really like being in politics and getting invited to the cocktail parties – and financial grift, because the two are tied together.
Democrats select almost entirely for ideology now, and to a lesser extent “minority” characteristics, which means they have, or used to have, much higher internal cohesion and very predictable policies.
This seems idiotic, but then kind of strangely appropriate considering a capitalistic mindset. More money == more support.
I was under the impression GOP was similar, and not a party composed entirely of grifters. Handily explains their abject failure against Democrats. Mammon is far, far too weak to fight Moloch.
Thank you for the explanation.
Actually my take is that there can never be “pure” ideologically motivated Leftism, because Leftism being adharmic, will attract all the adharmic folk into its fold, so there will be all kinds of conmen, financial fraudsters, murderers, thugs, the morally depraved, the corrupt, the personally greedy and so on.
“so there will be all kinds of conmen, financial fraudsters”
This is all of politics…
“murderers, thugs, the morally depraved”
The political right needs more thugs and murderers not less.
Isn’t it the dissident position that the entire modern political system I.e Democracy is Leftist oriented and swimming left with increasing velocity?
“Isn’t it the dissident position that the entire modern political system I.e Democracy is Leftist oriented and swimming left with increasing velocity?”
Yes but… the problem with the left is less the grifters and more the true believers.
The right has a bigger grifter problem, because grifters cannot fight true believers effectively.
Are there any “true” believers though? From my own understanding of Jim’s writings, Leftism is without essence, and Leftists trying to out-holy each other in a race to avoid being executed for being insufficiently Left and not out of any true conviction? But within this scheme, there seems to be plenty of room for all kinds of crime, provided those are not deemed to be against Leftism itself.
Leftism has no essence, but people are dealing with this fact in different ways.
Some people imagine it has an essence and follow their delusion about what it is (‘principled’ people)*. Others role-play at being this type of leftist (some politicians). Some are simply grifters or criminals (social media CEOs and black Dem voters). And yet others take ‘equality’ completely seriously and try to effect it by any means necessary (leftist spergs). Some are opportunists and passive careerists. There are many more groups.
*They are the most tragic cases because in a sane society they would be a huge asset, extremely effective inquisitors. And yet right now they perpetrate the race to the left and in the end always lose out.
Deleted because uninformative.
You don’t actually have any information on the Lincoln Project, but lack of information never stops you.
The international media, including their lapdogs in India, are openly talking about Trump preparing to leave the White House come January.
I know this is false propaganda, but bereft of rumours and speculations, what exactly is the situation? Hard to get any reliable information with all this censorship, except from NRx and dissident sources.
Time seems to be running out. Hope Trump will play his trump card soon (pardon the poor pun).
Trump is showing no signs of backing down. State legislatures are holding fraud hearings and seem to be indicating they will consider overruling the Biden electors. Time is running out though, Decemeber 14th is a hard deadline to select the electors. Ultimately, as Jim has said many times, it will be come down to Trump invoking the Insurrection Act and crushing the enemy with military force. He hopes to build up legal wins before he reaches that point though and likely will only do it at the last possible resort.
Watch/listen to Bannon War Room on youtube. I’ve found they have the closest ear to the changing situation as it happens.
Thanks. Good to know that Trump is still fighting this out. Will see the YouTube channel you’ve mentioned.
https://www.facebook.com/153080620724/posts/10165908467175725/
Statement by Trump.
It’s a long argument for why the insurrection act is needed, without invoking it.
Does anyone really still care about words and speeches? Serious question.
We’ve moved well beyond the point where any negotiation is possible, and well beyond the point where the troops really need any serious rallying. The only word that matters now is “go”.
Nope. Everyone I know is waiting for the Supreme Court or the go word.
Yes. This statement (haven’t listened to the whole thing) sounds like surrender will never be an option hence Insurrection Act, if that is the last option to him, will be invoked. This is good for morale.
It’s a really excellent speech.
Particularly the part when he said “Biden cannot be presidentâ€. I’m more confidant he will cross no matter what happens when last week I still had doubts if he lost in the courts and legislatures. This speech was necessary when we hadn’t seen him speak in public about the fraud for a quite a while.
When Trump in this video talks of all future elections, he is making the case for proclamation of the Insurrection act.
Which does not prove he is going to proclaim it, but when someone’s back is to the wall, unwise to bet that he is bluffing.
And it is never wise to bet that Trump is bluffing. He often lies that something is in the bag, when it is not in the bag, but when he says he will do such and such – well, sometimes, like Musk, it turns out rather belated, but he does do X eventually. And now there is very little time remaining for delay – though we may well see disturbing delay anyway.
I am reminded of the conversation on Twitter between Trump and the Ayatolla.
Trump threatens the Ayatollah on Twitter. Ayatollah replies on Twitter “You can’t do anything”
Trump does not reply on Twitter, but he replies in another way.
That is Trump.
Unwise to bet against Trump in general. He may still lose in the end, but if one has bet against Trump up until this point one has likely lost quite a bit of money.
Trump’s speech all but declares insurrection and him remaining in office…He’s laying out reforms that will take years to fully imp[ement….
It is a good speech, I just don’t exactly understand who it’s aimed at.
His voters and allies know there was massive fraud; don’t need convincing. Democrats and Never Trumpers either don’t care or are incapable of responding rationally. And the squishy middle are unlikely to get off their asses in any event.
Maybe it’s for the GOP itself, to try to put some pressure on them? Or I guess maybe to help keep up the spirits of his voters. To me it doesn’t show that we’re any closer to Insurrection Act – or any further away, for that matter. Facts on the ground haven’t changed.
In this speech, Trum is raising the stakes.
It sounds like it is aimed at the military to justify the proclamation of the Insurrection act. The GOP is rapidly becoming irrelevant.
Trump is not talking about winning the elections in the courts. He is talking about reforming the election system in the states – which is something he is empowered to do under the insurrection act. “We have to go to paper”, not “I won the paper votes”.
Trump is raising the stakes to matters where the Insurrection Act is the appropriate, and precedented, remedy. It has been previously used remove obstacles to blacks voting. Using it to ensure paper ballots and real id would be legally similar to past uses.
See? Voting rights. I guessed weeks ago that the showdown would be over voting rights, or at least that’s what it would say printed on the box.
Looks like it.
I hope for him to announce the map to the destination on Saturday, but Trump being Trump, may keep it close to his chest.
But the destination looks like paper voting and photo id. I expect him to announce the destination.
Don’t forget the purple ink for our thumbs.
Maybe an optional complimentary Covid vaccine too, like for dessert.
As an extra bonus, how about some Pakistani “United Nations Election Observer” doofuses standing around. Why the hell not at this point?
Good enough for Iraqis? Good enough for us.
Make them cry out in pain about that, and how only a dictator who must die die DIE RIGHT NOW!!! would do such a thing.
“You know what, Betty? I don’t trust these people anymore. They don’t seem to like us at all.”
Don’t forget the armed US Marshall in every precinct, and the necessity of initialing and photographing every paper ballot to create a permanent record…
I see this speech as effectively completing the paperwork in terms of laying out the reasoning for invoking the Insurrection Act. When invoked, people won’t have the mental bandwidth for the justification, only for action, so he’s putting this out now. I expect the Act to be invoked exactly one week from this speech because all certifications will have been made by then, but prior to the electoral college meeting on the 14th.
I don’t really see it as a warning since their lack of capability to form an agreement means that they wouldn’t hear a warning. I checked one notorious MSM publication, and whilst they reported the speech, they clearly didn’t understand it, and just ran a standard propaganda treatment that did not involve any analysis.
We can’t all be spergs, and be glad that we’re not, because that’s a screwed up world to live in.
People need “permission†to comprehend and believe what they experience and see in real life. Thus leadership.
Looking at the video again, I notice Trump is in front of a green screen.
If he is in hiding, then the situation must be close to becoming kinetic.
Isn’t he in the White House?
It’s not a green screen, this dude’s a kook. You can even see minor shifts in the camera angle and subtle changes in the background if you jump around the video.
This was the same silliness we were hearing when Trump had Covid, “omg he’s using a green screen must be dying”, Tim Pool at the time explained how that was all retarded.
Youtube version:
https://youtu.be/720O_yBLrTs
Ok, I watched the video end-to-end. I don’t read anything into it other than DJTrump is determined to pursue legal, court based, remedies.
It looks to be filmed in the oval office at night. You can see that its dark out the window. No green-screen. That does sound Qanon though. Why would he run to ground? Biden is probably hiding in a spider hole afraid of the cold.
DJTrump needs to fire Barr and get wartime consigliere. Start rounding these fraudsters up. Put em in a cold room for awhile, they’ll crack like an egg.
Some of these cheaters might be reading blogs, getting nervous, willing to turn states evidence to save their skin. Now’s the time to be redeemed.
Cut the blackpilling.
Going to paper ballots is not legal court based remedies. If the Insurrection Act is in play, Barr and DoJ will not matter any more.
No one knows what Trump will do, but this is not a speech for winning in the supremes. This is a speech for turning the election systems in the states on their heads.
What he would like from the supremes is an order concerning postal ballots – which will be ignored, providing additional grounds for the Insurrection Act.
Or, as I sometimes call it, the Senatus Consultum Ultimum.
And yes, as you correctly called it, that is the real Oval Office, not a green screen of the Oval Office.
The Insurrection Act was used mostly for rioting. DJTrump had an opportunity to use it during antifa. Why would he use it now? There are no riots at present. Who would he roll tanks on?
This is more like white collar rioting by politicians who wouldn’t offer any physical resistance.
Who benefits from another civil war? How do I benefit? Who’s freedom would I be fighting and dying for? Who should I spare?
On the paper ballots; there’s lots of ways to vote now. And it’s been left up to the states to decide. Paper with ID seems most secure. How do you get around states arguing 10A?
To me, you need to go back to the root of this. The covid scare. Covid has infected us all through our television set and our smartphone. Patient zero is Anthony Fauci. A career civil servant who hasn’t practiced real medicine in over 40 years. You have to get him to confess his lies publicly.
Nuts
The insurrection act was used to ensure voting rights for negroes.
Time to use it to ensure voting rights for Republicans.
An Army General would say “who do you want us to arrest?”
How would you answer that?
You’re kidding, right? The last 3 weeks have given us as crystal-clear a list of names as we’re ever going to get. Just gather up the last 100 articles in CNN’s politics section and arrest every name that comes up.
When it comes to the swamp, it’s easier to write a whitelist than a blacklist.
“Who benefits from another civil war? How do I benefit? Who’s freedom would I be fighting and dying for? Who should I spare?”
Your own freedom, no Democrat should be spared.
“To me, you need to go back to the root of this. The covid scare. Covid has infected us all through our television set and our smartphone. Patient zero is Anthony Fauci. A career civil servant who hasn’t practiced real medicine in over 40 years. You have to get him to confess his lies publicly.”
I called bullshit very early on that far earlier than most but the damage has been done.
Why didn’t they censor this speech?
Can’t censor that which you don’t understand the real meaning of.
To an anti-trump normie, it just looks like more “blah-blah I’ll still win” ‘whining’, so not a threat in the slightest.
Which just adds to the pile of evidence of Jim’s “insanity all the way to the top” theory of the cathedral.
Alternatively, it’s proof of lack of cohesion, for failure to postemptively censor/block it.
Whoever was writing this could at least credit where credit’s due. He even uses “normalcy bias”.
Is the credit important?
Might be better getting the ideas dispersed sans attribution. How many people can read this site?
There are much more important things right now, but yes, credit is important, perhaps our host disagrees.
Not sure who can’t read this site, it doesn’t even have google trackers: it’s hard to find a more privacy-friendly site than this one out there.
I steal from the best – so cannot complain too much when others copy my stuff.
I am just too lazy to look up attributions, especially when the source of the idea has been dead for centuries. I try to give a hat tip for current stuff, but by the time I write it up, am apt to have forgotten the exact source.
How many people can read this site? meaning:
How many people can handle the content as written on this site?
And does some guy writing about the President invoking the Insurrection Act need to be linked with this site at the present time?
I am in favor of more eyes on the material presented here.
That might not be good for his health.
He may legitimately not know where it came from. It’s hard to understate the extent to which this place punches above its weight. Our memes reach far and wide, because they explain things that no other memes can properly explain.
One of the quasi-mainstream pundits, I can’t remember which one, has been using the “cathedral” term quite often. Should he credit Moldbug? I bet he doesn’t even know who Moldbug is.
You can optimize for reach, or you can optimize for credit, and since we can’t monetize or otherwise capitalize on the credit anyway, we should probably be optimizing for reach. Demanding credit is likely to reduce reach, not least of which is due to fear of direct association, as others have stated. Better to maintain plausible deniability even if someone does read this blog, because the more people are using a meme without pointing to here as its source, the easier it becomes for other people to do the same and say “I don’t know who came up with it”. That’s terrible for works of art, but very good for ideas.
I vaguely recall it may be Tim Pool. I would bet he does know who Moldbug is but might not want to admit it. Not sure it makes practical difference.
Re attribution, hopefully the brave of soul will somehow find his way here.
Tim Pool’s never read Moldbug, I doubt he’s done much reading in general. His historical knowledge is awful. One of his guests has read Moldbug and brings up the idea of the Cathedral, which Tim then repeated for a few weeks without really understanding what it means.
Greg Gutfeld properly used the term Cathedral on Fox News a few months ago. It drew a knowing smile from one of the babes on his show, IIRC.
And Greg almost surely got it from Michael Malice only a day or two earlier. I saw that one.
These face-fagging media types have to understand reality as well as they can in order to catch people’s intrigued interest, thus reading this blog through their scuba gear on Tor through 50 VPN’s, but they must also water it down, sanitize and sugar-coat it on the air well enough to stay out of too much trouble. It’s not an easy job! I’d be out on my ass in a week.
Both Greg and Michael have the libertarian Jew act going for them to a degree, but Kushner and Bibi kinda spoiled that one. In the final analysis I salute them.
I think it was Michael Malice, and IIRC I just stumbled across something he’d written on a site hosting someone else I was reading; I still don’t really know who he is.
The point is, it’s better if audiences and authors themselves don’t know the primary source of a meme, as long as it’s being used correctly. The danger, of course, is having it subverted, but they’ll attempt that regardless (like Pepe).
You’ve got to understand that the author of that piece is writing under his real name. He was a successful businessman and the owner of the media group operating The Escapist online gaming magazine. Due to certain events he was purged from the industry and removed from the company he created. It’s a bit like Brendan Eich, on a smaller scale.
His political position used to be right-libertarianism, but the actual events of his life Darkly Enlightened him. My politics used to be farther right than his, and still are, but reality has closed the gap quite a lot. Also, I’m anon.
Unlike Moldfag, Macris has never cucked on anything in my knowledge, always wrote under his real name, and is a genuinely high-IQ individual.
I cannot imagine Moldfag writing about Trump and a “Rubicon” now that he is a namefag. So cut Macris some slack.
Would love to read more of you actually. A dissident right view on Indian politics would be great reading. I would love some inspiration as well. 😉
https://homeoftheoldgods.wordpress.com/2020/12/03/why-i-dont-post-much-about-indian-politics/
Left a reply on your blog. Thanks for the explanation.
Moldbug wrote about exactly that, Trump and the Rubicon, in his latest substack writing. https://graymirror.substack.com/p/reflections-on-the-late-election
Here’s a quote: “So it is not just that, for President Trump to keep his job (and probably his freedom), he would have to cross the Rubicon. He would have to cross five Rubicons, and do it without stopping. He also does not have (a) a map; (b) an army; or (c), of course, a general”
Apparently he’s written 2 things since then, I thought it was his latest, also he seems to have a general now, namely Flynn.
Yeah haha. The point is that Moldfag was doxed and now he has the courage to write stuff like this but still:
The man knows himself!
I find the whole thing with Moldbug/Yarvin kind of sad. It’s not so much that he got doxed or became a namefag, it’s that he became obsolete. People write about what they know, and he knows a whole lot about economics and history and the old Progressive ethos, but not so much about war and warfare, and as we drift headlong into war, whether conventional or holy, his knowledge becomes increasingly irrelevant.
He really wanted Silicon Valley to save us, and for a while, it had the potential. It’s true that the Sergey Brin of 2005 would probably have been a much better President than anyone that any of the political parties have or had on offer – save Trump, who is fundamentally the same archetype, just from a different industry. But Silicon Valley was co-opted, Silicon Valley cucked, now it’s just a more powerful and ideological Wall Street and social media is a more grotesque and low-brow traditional media, right up to the unskippable parade of nauseating ads.
And I think he just can’t admit it. He looks at his neighborhood and sees his neighborhood 20 years ago, as many people do when their neighborhoods are crumbling and let nostalgia and sentiment cloud their vision. He looks at Silicon Valley today and sees only the legacy of 2000 Silicon Valley, not the creature currently inhabiting it. And so he makes poor strategic decisions, imagining that the new revolving door between SV and USG might be a good thing, that the CEOs are just sort of politically unsophisticated, but if we give them the real levers of power, they’d rule benevolently. He can’t see that they’ve become just as rabidly ideological as the rest of the Cathedral.
The irony to me is that Moldbug wrote about this very phenomenon, when he chronicled the decline and fall of academia. He says, and is probably correct, that the ivory tower came crashing down when progressives had the bright idea to connect the academy with the political machine; they forgot the aphorism about a barrel of wine and a cup of sewage. And then he went and made the same mistake with Silicon Valley. Oh, he wanted them to be sovereign, as I’m sure the old progressives wanted the academy to be sovereign, but it was never going to work that way – the fat pipe is not a one-way valve.
And now here we are: the Valley helped fix an election to install Kamala Harris, arguably the worst president-in-waiting America could imagine, and it will break America if allowed to occur, hence war. President Trump says we cannot have a President Biden, but I think what he really means is we cannot have a President Kamala because Biden would not even last a year. Yarvin doesn’t know war, doesn’t believe it could happen, so writes as though this is all just another bump in the road, nothing to get worked up about.
So congratulations, Curtis, we are this close to the technocratic CEO rule that you so idealistically dreamed about. Is it everything you hoped for, or do you regret following the same path as the early 20th century progressives?
“So congratulations, Curtis, we are this close to the technocratic CEO rule that you so idealistically dreamed about.”
Not to be a bugbear, but he did write this recently : “https://graymirror.substack.com/p/how-to-regulate-the-tech-platforms”
Here’s a quote : “Protocol transparency means banning secret Internet protocols, at least for monopolies. Governments can tame the platform dragons—tame, not slay, though they will squeal as if being slain—by compelling them to use only free, published network protocols.”
If he wants technoligarchic rule, doesn’t seem to be advocating for it here. You do have a point about the war stuff, Moldbug is definitely a nerd. I don’t think he needs to be shoved into a locker though, he says interesting things.
Yes, I saw that. Frankly, his solution sounds bizarre and pointless; most of the big tech companies already use open protocols. In fact they all fight for their pet projects to get into the W3 standards.
Maybe he means they should open up their actual APIs to anyone, but I don’t think he does, as that would basically eliminate any kind of security.
He’s squirming; he knows that the industry he used to back has become monstrous and evil, but still can’t let go, thus advocates these non-solutions, which allows him to discuss the superficial aspects of the problem while ignoring its essence.
Is fundamentally impossible, in the nature of things.
Silicon Valley is basically tech-priest central. The wave of Hackers (along the Minsky->Sussman->Stallman axis) or hackers (Backus->Codd->Ritchie/Thompson->Torvalds axis) were/are all observably Brahmins. The founders of Microsoft are Brahmins, and much of the initial team at Apple Computer are also (famously excluding Jobs, of course). NVIDIA, Google, all founded and largely run by tech-priests. And huge numbers still work for FAAGS.
The apparent takeover of SV has largely been a multi-pronged assault: 1) by media Brahmins upon tech-Brahmins, aided by 2) Vaishyas hired by the tech-Brahmins to “manage” their companies, enabled by 3) Shudras in Government. Much of this happened very fast, and I consider the first Obama presidency as the turning point, but the groundwork was already being laid during WBush-II era.
This then leads to such strange incidences as Eric Schmidt firing James Damore from Goolag for pointing out that women don’t really dig computers.
Of course, no surviving tech-priest will admit this, and tech-priest articles of faith are gone or disappearing fast. I already feel nostalgic for:
Shut up and show us the code!
There are no women on the Internet
On the Internet, no-one knows you’re a dog
Don’t be evil
Meritocracy rug at Github
Free speech wing of the Free speech party
This is a fundamentally unique religion/memeplex that is being suppressed by the Prog machine. At one time it appeared that it would triumph (I think 2005 was the high point). But then prog tentacles started infiltrating and destroying. It is really beautifully put by Vox Day in his SJWs series.
I was an optimist back then, but then so were Peter Thiel and Mark Shuttleworth, and I daresay even James 😉 Victory was almost palpable! Then it turned to shit in 2014.
You don’t understand our memes entirely…
Brahmins are generally evil and vaisyas are generally good. The government is entirely Brahmin.
The problem is not Vaisyas subverting the Brahmins but quite the other way around.
He is using the technically-right Indian definitions. Not Moldbug’s. Although to be fair many techies including CEOs in America are rather priestly and are definitely also Brahmins in Moldbug’s view. The ‘Minsky->Sussman->Stallman axis’, Steve Jobs etc. Torvalds too in his own way (but he sucks as a priest). Many ‘consultants’ and ‘mentors’.
The typical Vaisyas are the programmers in the small C# shops who make custom software for clients.
Well literal Brahmin dotheads (95% of them are borderline on hardcore communists) are a big part of the problem with silicon valley…
He’s talking about the castes as categories, you’re talking about them as demographics.
There’s nothing wrong with Brahmins as a caste. There’s a great deal wrong with the current American Brahmin caste that runs most government and government-adjacent organizations, and there are problems with priestly rule in general.
I disagree that tech CEOs are generally great rulers of a country. Even Moldbug really only called out Steve Jobs by name, and Steve Jobs would have been a good ruler because charismatic, not because techie.
Far too many hackers were left wing even then, especially in open source communities. I mean, Stallman is an excellent example of this tendency: https://stallman.org/there-ought-to-be-a-law.html
No, it just happened from the bottom up. This religion/memeplex was only ever there in Silicon Valley. The articles of faith were at best 10% of a proto-religion. It was outcompeted by progressivism among employees because it was memetically too weak. If your company is 90% progressive, a tech-priest CEO won’t do much good.
And were swiftly outmaneuvered and purged by those to their left, because no enemies to the left. A fatal error.
A leftist is an enemy to all on his right, and all on his left are enemies to him. Thus a leftist has no friends. Each leftist finds himself alone, thus can be swiftly crushed, and is swiftly crushed, as Stallman was.
And even that did not redpill any of them, at least not those in the public eye. Many have not even developed the healthy fear of the left that Havel’s greengrocers have. The only counterexample I can think of is Damore.
were still around, except nowawadays its old anime rather than LotR (thiel), 4chins, selfimprovement etc. many went jq – altright – armchair political philosophy and here we are. weaponized autism is our strength.
Namefag Yarvin writes:
Yarvin over estimates the Rubicons.
Only one Rubicon, the Insurrection Act, which has been crossed many times already, most spectacularly by Lincoln. The latest insurrection act is one of a long succession of acts legalizing all the illegal stuff done by Lincoln.
Also, Trump has a map.
It is far from clear that he has a general.
It doesn’t look like Lincoln actually technically invoked the Insurrection Act.
As I said, retroactive legalization.
Fair enough.
And the Republicans cut their own throats:
https://in.news.yahoo.com/us-senate-passes-bill-eliminating-050107189.html
Unlimited green cards.
No, Republicans, tech will not love you even if you give them unlimited H-1Bs and warm bodies. Simps.
No one is going to protect those rat bastards after that.
This shit comes straight out of Silicon Valley and big tech; all the Indian CEOs and managers think there should be no caps. China is of course the other vector – and Indian immigrants may even be a distraction here for more Chinese colonization. Shitty consulting companies like Infosys will abuse the hell out of it, but they’re not the lobbyists.
Just in case there was any lingering doubt about why there’s been no serious attempt to regulate big tech and why big tech was so eager to help swing this election. And this was supposedly passed unanimously, so technically Trump can’t even veto it.
Well, not unless he does the same thing he needs to do regarding the election, in which case the legality of a veto becomes pretty irrelevant.
Yeah honestly monarchy can’t come too soon. I find I’m starting to genuinely hate most of the people of the area I live in, precisely because I loathe being ruled by the people that they elect. It is causing me to actually look forward to a hot civil war, which I find kind of concerning. I would much rather not have to give a damn how they felt.
Join the club.
Trump can veto it they then have to override…
This late in the year he might be able to pocket veto it, or at least drag it out long enough that they don’t have time to override.
Mid-retreat looting, I presume. Why else on earth would they do this now?
The one last thing they can grab on the way out the door, and it’s this? Really?
These nerds thought they could rule the planet with a fair trade organic soy latte and the right Java app, or whatever. Really? How long is that going to last? Will the right Java app keep Shaniqua off their lawn? Am I the dumbass? What am I missing?
They honestly expect to be able to return to the old “loyal opposition” routine that establishment Republicans have always preferred.
Suones analogy the other day is essentially apt: Mammon will always play second fiddle to Moloch, and in fact prefers it that way. Trump or “Trumpism” is a movement, but the Republican party is essentially a business, and they’re not picky about who they provide services to, whether it’s Wall Street, Silicon Valley or the Democratic Party.
If you prefer, you can think of it as Orwell’s inner and outer party. GOPe not only represents the outer party, it has no aspirations of becoming the inner party. It was much happier and more content in its former role under the Bushes and Clintons and Obamas than it has ever been in its current role under Trump, and will do anything to go back to those days, even if it comes in the form of empty promises from agreement-incapable ideologues that are almost certain to be broken.
The only way to change this would be a major shake-up in the party membership. Trump would need to take control of not only the soapbox, but also the treasury and personnel.
Do not mock the Machine God, for he is subtle and quick to anger.
And yes, the right Java app will indeed keep $WHATEVER off my lawn, while you get strafed by Amazon drones.[1] A dozen soldiers are no match for the power of a single well-built Java app.
[1]: https://www.trevore.com/post/building-a-terminator-in-java/ 😉
Smoking gun video footage being shown in the Georgia hearing right now showing shaboons pulling out ballots from under tables in the middle of the night after counting supposedly “stopped” and everyone was asked to leave. Wow doesn’t get any more clear that this.
“Smoking gun video footage being shown in the Georgia hearing right now showing shaboons pulling out ballots from under tables in the middle of the night after counting supposedly “stoppedâ€
Obviously what they did in Milwaukee, Detroit and Philidelphia too.
Betting against Trump is the dumbest thing anyone can do. The left has no answer for this video. It’s fucking amazing.
Will update in favor of “4D Chessmaster Trump” if this results in substantive guarantee of serious signature verification in GA by the time of his Saturday rally, as it will indicate his decision to postpone it a week, presumably in the belief he could apply the necessary pressure to conduct said rally on a much more victorious note a week later, was correct.
Jimminy Crickets is it 100% Shaniquas too? Do we get to break “racism†while we’re at it, like as a bonus? Holy shit.
Not that I really need further convincing, but for entertainment purposes, is there a convenient link with timestamp? Not gonna watch the whole hearing.
https://mobile.twitter.com/TeamTrump/status/1334569329334083586
Better one
https://twitter.com/kylenabecker/status/1334585981299806208?s=20
Beautiful. I never even imagined the possibility of the fraud being caught red-handed on video. I guess they were either too stupid or too overconfident to turn off the security cameras, or maybe we had a mole in the security team.
They will no doubt move the evidence goalposts again, crying “doctored” and/or “this could mean anything”, but this is 100% riot act worthy if legislatures or courts refuse to act.
Has the traitorous “Republican” governor responded?
I’m already seeing Democrat shills say this doesn’t prove fraud because the ballots aren’t proven to be fraudulent and no the republican watchers weren’t kicked out blah blah blah. They just read off a script like the robotic shills Jim gets. Any type of red-handed evidence will not matter in the slightest.
It’s unavoidable for the GOP cucks though. Kemp is now saying he wants the SOS to conduct a signature audit.
https://www.cbs46.com/news/governor-kemp-calls-on-ga-sos-to-conduct-signature-audit-of-ballots/article_d6ab0aba-35f0-11eb-8713-834ffd0b8200.html
This is the legitimacy we needed. Even if the Supreme Court cucks out(which they appear to be doing) the military won’t with this to justify martial law.
Yes this is exactly what we needed.
Who oh who had the self control to sit on this video until today?
Or rather, who had been sitting on it, all this time, scared shitless of releasing it, but then today finally changed his mind? And why? Finally responding to what… sense or feeling?
One thing — of many — that amazes me about Trump is his balls, and his confidence. He’ll just run flat out toward the end zone, from however far away, and just assume that probably, someone, somewhere, at some point, will throw him something. Why? Because they could see that he was the only one running!
It’s possible that it was more than just “fear of being slandered for showing fraud” but also a fear of “being racist + sexist” since the video show 4 black women doing the crime. (and the person hoped other evidence would be enough…)
We should not underestimate how much the “don’t be a racist” slogan affects normies…
“It’s not illegal if negroes do it, but it is illegal to see them doing it.†Of course it had to end up there. Wow just wow.
This really is a holy war. Jim Was Right.
Hold on a second.
Are those really ballots in those hard cases or styrofoam packing pieces?
Wuz we had?
Did I want to see something so much that I chomped down on the turd in the punchbowl?
If the timestamp is accurate definitely ballots, it was enough to get Kemp to pseudo uncuck.
Some sleuthing through Twitter yielded this:
https://thedonald.win/p/11QlFhUGM3/abc-posted-this-on-election-nigh/c/
Off topic, but not too long ago I had to do some mandated HR implicit basis training. I’ve generally spent my life avoiding such things since I have a very difficult time not calling out bullshit and lies. The implicit basis tests were ridiculous word association software that’s basically voodoo that I intentionally weighted the direction I figured they’d want. Later I was questioned about the results by the head of HR with a few other people who took similar tests.
It wasn’t a moaist struggle style session, but the head of HR came after me hard for being a white male. I decided to view the encounter like he was a priest of an evil religion and I sprinkled in his desired Shibboleths as I blathered nonsense sentences without ever having to say anything demeaning about myself. He was satisfied and pronounced me holy. The religious frame is amazingly useful, but oh how I hate this fucking bullshit.
It definitely has the quality of a religious creed.
It’s not uncommon in academia for websites and job ads (which jobs also often require ideological purity tests in the form of “diversity statements) to open with axiomatic statements like, “Diversity and inclusion are essential to academic excellence.” (No citation needed; of course, “diversity and inclusion” here mean not “diversity of ideas” but “fewer white males.”)
Any sane high school teacher, much less an academic peer reviewer worth his salt would flag such a statement, “Plato, Aristotle, Isaac Newton… aren’t examples of academic excellence??” But such “critical thinking” as we are supposedly taught in schools just takes a total vacation for seemingly very smart and hyper-educated people when it comes to such unquestionable articles of faith. Or they keep their mouths shut about it.
I’ve met a few Harvard graduates, on paper everyone seems super accomplished, super smart, they ooze confidence whenever they speak.
Even more confusing to me that they indeed have “critical thinking” to scrutinize every dollar in my report.
Though at the end of the day, all of them fiddle, hear, and plan like a blind monkey, the very example of biblical fools. They hear and see wisdom but receive it not.
There is definitely something terribly wrong in modern education that I cannot quite put my finger on it.
What is wrong with modern education is that they are failing to select for smarts, and therefore, being unable to give them an education, give the students a cargo cult imitation of education.
When I interviewed, I was interviewing programmers, so I had a plentiful supply of coding related questions to separate the smarts from the idiots, but I was just recently reminded that Microsoft would ask candidates questions like “Why are manhole covers round”? and “How would you distinguish left and right if you were talking to over the phone to a foreigner who spoke English well enough, but did not know which was which.”
And anyone who cannot explain the seasons is seriously stupid. That is average IQ stuff.
Does anyone need a reminder on what a cargo cult is?
When stone age people encountered modern goods, they generally came in as a result of a white person with a radio calling in a small plane to deliver supplies. Sometimes on a small airstrip, and sometimes the plane just dropped stuff in very strong small bags onto soft dirt. So the cargo cultists built things that looked to them like radios and small airports, and attempted to call in planes, imitating the superficial appearance of what was done, without real comprehension of what was in fact done. Notice that Arecibo is still seemingly functioning as a science bureaucracy, even though the radio telescope has collapsed and was for some time been in the same condition as the stone age people’s mock radios.
“Notice that Arecibo is still seemingly functioning as a science bureaucracy, even though the radio telescope has collapsed and was for some time been in the same condition as the stone age people’s mock radios.”
This is a strong statement. Is it a sort of a hyperbole or do you literally mean that they are not capable of understanding what the instruments show anymore, thus the “data” they are taking are wrong and meaningless?
I’m sure you already know this: understanding what the instruments show is many floors below from the sort of mental ability that it takes to do actual science.
At a top place this colleague was placed because wamen, and she was a good student and understood very well what the instruments showed: she was the equivalent of a good lab technician. But all the actual science in the projects came from other, much smarter people. Actual science requires a talent that is very, very rare. If you displace that talent, and put there people who are only kind of smart, the science dies very quickly.
I checked a few papers requesting use of the Arecibo telescope, not a statistically significant sample, concluded that they were going to use it as heap big magic juju, not as an instrument for seeing the universe.
Maybe they would not have been granted use, likely at least some of the requests for use would have been actually using it for something useful. I have not done a thorough examination, but the papers I saw wanted the Arecibo telescope as a decoration, not as a source of useful info. They failed to explain how the signals they would pick up would shed light on the questions they were supposedly addressing, how they would recognize what they were supposedly looking for. If one wants to pick up a faint signal, one needs to know how faint and what it would look like.
Example: Exoplanet biosignatures. OK, how will life on distant planets change the radio emissions from that planet, short of someone setting up a television transmission? I don’t think the authors had the faintest idea. What kind of radio signals do earthlike planets with atmospheres emit in their natural condition and how strong are these signals? If the authors knew, I don’t think they cared. Did Earth have a biosignature in the radio spectrum before we set up television stations? If so, what was it and how strong was it? How much spatial resolution do you need to tease out the weak emissions from the planet from the strong emissions from the star? If it is very hard to separate them in the visible spectrum, how will things go in the radio spectrum? Is it physically possible for the Arecibo telescope to detect earth sized exoplanets at all, or any exoplanets at all, let alone biosignatures? I don’t think the authors knew or cared.
They no more knew what to do with a radio telescope than the stone age savages knew how to call in a plane to deliver cargo.
That was an egregious example, but none of the papers requesting use that I glanced at had any idea of what they were supposedly looking for would look like in the Arecibo telescope.
I conjecture that the endless openings and unopenings of Intel’s Fab 42 indicate that when it opens, it is operated the way those papers proposed to operate the Arecibo telescope.
I was thinking about some of the past and present uber rich philanthropists.
Some advanced science and technology. One often reads stories about how some famous scientist from the past had some rich sponsor. Others seem to just virtue signal by dumping their money into some social sink hole.
Some in the first class:
Howard Hughes (at least until he died): Aviation, medicine film.
Musk: Rockets, cars, tunnel boring, trains (he seems to have technology ADD).
Henry Ford (at least until he died).
Edison.
Some of these are vilified today.
Two examples of the latter: Bill Gates, Mark Zuckerberg. I remember reading something about Zuckerberg donating some large amount of money to the Newark, NJ school system, as if those organizations don’t get enough government largess to begin with.
What got me thinking about this was the collapse of Arecibo. There are a number of VLA style radio telescope projects going on around the world. Typical costs were listed around the $1 billion range. These technologies typically provide the highest telescopic resolution available. There’s a lot of unknown out there in the Universe to observe and discover. Funding one of these projects would seem to offer more to humanity then dumping the money into the toilet.
I’m reminding of the current Thirty Meter Telescope (optical) project for Mauna Kea that’s currently on hold due to objections from the “natives” (it’s a “sacred” place). My guess is it’s some scam attempting to get a payoff.
I recall hearing from someone I trust that Booker played Zuckerberg for a fool in that deal
You don’t understand adaptive optics, and I am going to put you back on moderation for talking ignorant $#!% if you keep swerving the topic and talking irrelevant stuff you know not of.
I don’t understand adaptive optics either but looks like you need a camera that can take a picture of a mirror and then a computer program is supposed to rectify to a clear image.
So it seems like for adaptive optics to work outside the visual spectrum you need a camera that sense things outside the visual spectrum. This may be possible for infrared and ultraviolet waves but its going to get very hard when you go far outside the visual spectrum.
No, it gets easier, much easier, when you go to the radio spectrum, but becomes irrelevant, because at most radio frequencies that the atmosphere is transparent to, the atmosphere distorts the wave front by considerably less than a quarter wavelength.
There is a wide range of frequencies where ionization in the upper atmosphere distorts the wave front by one hell of a lot, but radio astronomers generally do not attempt to correct for that, though they easily could, but rather use frequencies where this is not a problem. The frequencies where it is a problem are too low for radio astronomers to care much about.
And Icon has just successfully shut down discussion about the decline of science.
So radio waves are lower frequency higher wavelength so what about higher frequency shorter wavelength ie gamma and cosmic radiation?
The higher the frequency and shorter the wavelength, the harder it is to do adaptive optics. The atmosphere blocks the higher UV frequencies, so no one cares, and does not distort the wave fronts of gamma and X rays, so no one cares, not that it is practical to do adaptive optics in the X ray spectrum anyway.
Adaptive optics is a non trivial and useful thing in the visible frequencies. At all other frequencies, it is trivial, or useless, or both. Radio frequencies always trivial, usually useless. If you have a wifi router with a large number of antenna, it is probably doing the equivalent of adaptive optics, that being trivial at wifi frequencies, not to compensate for atmospheric distortion, which is non existent at those frequencies, but for other causes of distortion.
And Icon’s shutdown of the discussion of the decline of science is still working.
Hmmmm looks like they have cameras that can do that too… never knew that. I thought there IR cameras and cameras for ultraviolet light but honestly never knew there were cameras to sense and rectify the rest of the EM spectrum.
Adaptive optics words by dynamically adjusting the shape of the mirror to compensate for fluctuations in the atmosphere. There are man little “pistons” mounted behind the mirror to push or pull on it. Typically it uses a reference “guide” star to maintain its position and pinpoint focus. It is presumed the rest of the field will then have optimum focus.
As for high energy photons like x-rays and gamma rays, they are too penetrating so they can’t be focused using surfaces with high angle of incidence, so traditional parabolas are out. They require low incidence glancing surfaces to do the focusing. So the lenses are more like fresnel lenses.
Actually, I do know about it. More than you anyway. But, you just wanted to open up dialog with me so you could later pretend to out debate me.
You’re so negative about everything and can’t stand to be disagreed with. You know nothing about law, very little about science, and your history focuses on issues that have long passed.
You cannot arrest people for being a Democrat alone, or having their name in a news article. You need evidence of a crime. And the military will not arrest people for you either.
You are so full of shit Jim. And the other names on here are either you posting pretending to be other people or lemmings.
You aren’t going to accomplish shit behind a keyboard. And if you’re a computer type, as you claim, you’re either a skinny nerd or a fat slob.
I’ll be back to troll you more later so keep me moderated. I do like your writing style though.
He’s obviously trying to bait you, just put him back on moderation.
Shills have obviously been given some updated scripts to pass some of the tests, or been given slightly more autonomy, but they still aren’t going to contribute anything of value.
The Prussian school system (the same system US schools use currently) is designed to do three things:
1. Make the “students” conform to the correct norms
2. Discourage learning (not just in school but in life in general) and instead focus on Memorizing trivia (rather than learning logic and reasoning.)
3. Reinforce the idea that life sucks so that the students can be controlled their whole lives.
Having gotten to interact with kids and adult who were homeschooled, the difference is almost night and day on the willingness and desire to learn.
Having also seen some who were homeschooled and then put through modern college… they are almost undistinguishable from others that go to college…
Thinking about western education in terms of learning is aiming for the matador’s cape.
Public and secondary education do work for their intended purposes, just not in the way most think it does. Brainwashing is not trivia, it is inculcated morality and epistemology through socialization.
When an NPC type consumes Leftist media, he interprets the information through his pre-programming, which causes him to think his opinions are his when they are in fact not.
Before the advent of public schooling, “public education†was done through the parish. The education of the future must be incorporated into the church in the same way it is now incorporated into Harvard; in other words, there can be no distinction between the two.
Most people should not get much in the way of “education” beyond basic literacy. Then its right to their trades for men and to marriage for women.
Exactly. Women should have the max number of children they possibly can, and that requires young, virgin marriage and a husband with enough money and ideally a house. The more money and the younger the women–the more kids.
Even the priests should learn a trade probably, they can go to college after finishing an apprenticeship. Keeps them down to earth.
By the way, coding, engineering and business should absolutely be trades.
@Ducking Man:
“ Though at the end of the day, all of them fiddle, hear, and plan like a blind monkey, the very example of biblical fools. They hear and see wisdom but receive it not.â€
Oh come on give us some kind of details. Just something to hang your narrative on.
I can give the lots of example because they are doing it every month.
Meeting purpose: Discussing costing to lease existing infrastructure to outside party. The biggest cost in the costing is Maintenance Cost.
The meeting goes:
Me and facility manager who do the costing: “Historically our target pricing is 20 cents/MT of traffic, taken from $1 million/200,000 MT of traffic from previous years performance”
The Harvard graduate CFO: “9 months running your traffic is only 90,000MT to date, now change the quantity let’s say 100,000 MT”.
The costing is now $0.40/MT
The Harvard graduate CFO: “See I know what I’m doing, I’m giving you free money” (note: he never went to the facility, never know any person involved in the operation, never know how the facility works)
The customer aptly reject our proposal for being too expensive because elsewhere is a lot cheaper.
The meeting with them is always hilarious.
A few years back I was dating a grad school student who was going for an advanced degree in the hard sciences. She realized, too late, that the thesis she had spent years preparing was total bullshit, that it was fake science, and there was no time for her to redo it. I read her thesis, because I would edit her papers for grammar and coherence, and even I could tell that it was bullshit. The model she invented would not only fail to accurately predict future events, but it could not even explain the actual data that she actually had. She was terrified that she would fail out, that the faculty would expose her thesis as garbage and she would not get her degree.
Instead, the faculty unanimously approved the paper, and her professor put his name on it, and it was published. From this I concluded that her entire department was doing fake science, since they could not tell the difference between real and fake, and that every department everywhere was doing fake science, since “peer review” obviously failed to stamp out a fake department of fake scientists.
Like Jim said, the problem with education is that it is all fake, it teaches all lies, lies from head to tail, and thus selects for people of middling IQs and high conformity.
Like all good Marxists, the faculty applied the Labor Theory of Value to something your girlfriend evidently worked very hard on.
Jim’s comment made me realize, very belatedly, that education in American/anglo society is really infested primarily with the Labor Theory of Value, more than in any other culture including Soviet Russia. The bizarre anti-cheating fixation in academia (cheaters=’scabs’)*, the ever-widening definition of plagiarism, participation trophies (‘at least you made an effort’) etc.
*To be fair this is also necessitated by the ‘grading on a curve’ system which reflects more of a Harvardist conception of equality, but is equally retarded.
Cheating isn’t really punished in higher education anymore. Blacks and browns can’t pass classes without it so it’s basically OK. I’m not sure how whites and Asians are treated when caught cheating.
The left has never been good at following its own principles, but has always been great at loudly proclaiming them.
Sounds like modern corporate america are neck-deep in woke movement and in dire need of Trump calling out their BS.
Oh how I long the days when I can freely calling out everyone’s bs.
Taking the test itself was a mistake. You should decline on the basis it infringes on your first amendment rights, assuming you are American. Compare it to mandated Dianetics.
Basically they can’t use the system against you if you refuse to participate.
1. The law doesn’t matter.
2. Even if it did matter, the first amendment applies to governments, not corporations.
Seriously, I keep hearing this “first amendment” shit regarding corporate training and corporate censorship and it’s just so damn stupid. Go ahead and use that strategy if you want to (a) lose, (b) get laughed at and (c) get yourself on some kind of blacklist.
If you work in one of these corporations out of necessity, then first of all you have my sympathy, and second, shut up and keep your head down and pay whatever lip service is required (as BC says, treat it like a religious Inquisition). If you work there and either don’t care about your job or can’t be fired, then just troll the inquisitors and don’t bother with legalfagging. And if you need to have some kind of job but have easily transferable skills, then find a better (generally smaller) employer now, before the Inquisition finds you.
There is no situation whatsoever that merits this incredibly gay “muh first amendment” blathering.
The point isn’t to *actually* sue, it’s to throw the ball back rhetorically and force them to try to justify brainwashing you. As you reveal, many people *believe* 1A has power, even if that power is actually quite limited in reality. As long as you aren’t instantly combative and hostile, you’re unlikely to be fired, and you may save yourself and others from a dumb struggle session. May even save the whole company. Worked out pretty good for James Damore, and he did way more than politely decline the training.
Also seems to be working out well for this guy: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCWjvTQVcjhyEKVyb4zqOmxQ
though he is going with the autistic ‘dems are the real racists’ angle so I guess we’ll see.
What are you talking about, “worked out” for Damore? He was fired and blacklisted.
Nobody believes the first amendment has power over corporations except some lolbertarians (ironically) and maybe the bottom quartile of cuckservatives.
Yeah, sure, “heighten the contradictions”. How’s that working out for our side? Is it not obvious to you by now from this massive and open election fraud that they don’t care? And that even if they did care, they’re not capable of any strategy other than doubling down? In what universe do you imagine freeze peach faggotry to be even remotely effective?
I passed the test easily. And I partially took it because I was curious about how it worked. I’ve learned many tricks over the years to avoid being detected as a heretic of the state religion. As I said the test was more like voodoo. Any heretics they detect are almost certainly not heretics.
[[[It wasn’t a moaist struggle style session, but the head of HR came after me hard for being a white male.]]]
The irony is that if someone comes at you hard for being a white male, you’re supposed to report it to HR.
People need to start reporting these incidents to their supervisors as there are laws against racial/gender harassment in all 57 states, and if management ignores the problem, that’s grounds for law$uit.
In how many recent legal cases (recent defined as: since social justice started emerging in 2012 or thereabouts) did an anti-discrimination suit on behalf men/Whites/straights win?
This isn’t a rhetorical question, for all I know it could be many or it could be zero. But the written law of the land contradicts the unwritten law, so I would bet that the number is zero, or close enough to it.
Would need to research, but I’ve been in a supervisory position for 15 years, and from what I’ve read, legal outcomes tend to be fair in that winners rightly win, and losers rightly lose. This is in part because it’s easy for employers to avoid liability by taking adequate steps when responding to complaints. Most common outcomes I read are white person wins because employer was pozzed shitheel who thought “who/whom” would protect him in the end, and black person loses because massive sense of entitlement and harassment was either imagined or remediated by employer.
Now, the Struggle Session Industry has been around for a few years, gaining notoriety for the past couple years and massive notoriety after the death of St. George Fentanyl. I haven’t read of (or gone looking for) the results of lawsuits due to aggressive bias training since it takes a while for people to find their spines, but the potential exposure for liability here is huge because what’s key to the “hostile work environment” is the employee’s feelings and what steps the employer takes in response.
The situation is not unlike the lawsuits brought in response to collegiate kangaroo courts, where men are expelled after a regretted sexual encounter without even the appearance of due process, and win in civil court. In civil court, there’s no Soros-bought-and-paid-for DA to enforce “who/whom” via prosecutorial discretion.
I’d have a hard time working there after that.
Welcome to the future of all corporate jobs. 10 or so years ago I and a bunch of people pushed back hard against white privdge training and got the people pushing it to shutup and back off. Today they’d toss anyone who tried that out the door in 5 minutes and send our home addresses to antifa.
There left’s using COVID to destroy small businesses because corporate is much easier to control.
Dealing with people like that is incredibly easy in a way. Just say the shibboleths and they’re happy even if it makes no sense. The religion of stupidity. The hard parts are to not sound too smart and to shut up about the truth.
How is the religious frame not obvious to people? In fact that’s why Moldbug made so much sense to me right from the start, he saw what I saw.
Reminded me of an article by Scott Alexander regarding the Stalin-era Russian mathematician Kantorovich[1] who thought he had worked out how to run the perfect planned economy:
PS: Kantorovich’s approach works really well, as long as all inputs and processes are predictable within limits. I would love to see a modern corporation apply these principles. Scientific research to enhance production seems to have died out after Henry Ford. Even Aldous Huxley thought our dystopian future would be one of huge efficiency, if nothing else. What a spectacular change!
PPS: No, “scientific Communism” still isn’t possible, even though Real Communismâ„¢ has never been tried.[2] That’s because it fundamentally depends on other people’s money, which people end up getting killed sooner or later. Markets do not solve for the computational problem (which is trivial in the modern era), but for the information-flow problem which is decidedly non-trivial in a general sense.
[1]: https://slatestarcodex.com/2017/10/23/kolmogorov-complicity-and-the-parable-of-lightning/
[2]: https://chris-said.io/2016/05/11/optimizing-things-in-the-ussr/
Thank you for the links. I faintly remember that article. But then how did Scott Alexander not internalize exactly what he had written and made this exact mistake by talking to NYT?
I was unfamiliar with Kantorovich. Could probably be used for some things, but then again you will probably hit a bottleneck as soon as it comes to hiring, firing and retraining employees. Employment needs to be a market, otherwise you have universal slavery. Socialist countries solved the problem by never closing plants that hemorrhaged resources, but that is not an option for capitalist businesses.
Observed Scott behavior was to continually come up with overly clever rationalizations for orthodoxy.
The medieval scientists who wisely avoided criticizing the Roman Catholic Church also cut themselves off from knowledge of what was wrong with the Roman Catholic Church – which probably did not harm them much.
Cutting yourself yourself off from knowledge of women, sex, and the nature of the legacy media is apt to slit your own throat.
In the Kathy Forth suicide, his whisper network was telling him a slightly less evil and insane version of the story – but the difference between the orthodoxy and what was on his whisper networks did not matter, they were both evil and insane. The difference was not interesting or important. A trivially different version of the same destructive and self destructive lies.
The trouble with taking that option is that you are immersed in an environment of lies, and tend to internalize the lies – the double think gets inside. He cut himself off from his whisper network, because it was filled with those horrid evil people who had horrid evil thoughts.
He engaged in a personally self destructive and hurtful cuck lifestyle, which grossly endangered himself and his friends – observe their grossly defective response to Kathy Forth. He massively failed, at immense cost to himself, to avail himself of the information about women, sex, desire, and love, widely available on the internet.
Scott Alexander hurt himself by not knowing about women, and he hurt himself by not knowing about the legacy media.
He and his whisper network were pushing back on the orthodoxy in small ways on small issues, when the orthodoxy is evil and insane in big ways on big issues.
Indeed, looks like he has always been a leftist. Probably rightists and leftists read this Scott article in completely different ways.
Which combined with talking to the media ended for him like it would ordinarily have ended for Kantorovich.
I don’t know why many are so vulnerable this internalization–but I personally know such cases as well. I suppose the trick is to have an outlet–sane people you can talk to. Scott did not have that.
And probably the sane part of Scott’s mind, locked in a closet and screaming to get out, wrote it with the sane meaning, while the rest of his mind read it with the insane and evil meaning. The sane part of him was telling the insane part of him how to find his way back to sanity, and the insane part was not listening.
>I don’t know why many are so vulnerable this internalization–but I personally know such cases as well.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sociometer
Depression is low self-regard. Self-regard or self-esteem are internal meters evolved to track social status but they work only about as well as appetite tracks nutritional needs. Believing low-status ideas = feeling like a worthless piece of shit, for people who are prone to depression. So I see it the a bit the other way around, it is not the lack sane people but being in leftist circles who very clearly signal that they consider everybody not toeing the line a worthless piece of shit, it really makes that type anxious.
Thing is, leftists today have low SMV. For me even way back them when I was really naive, it was sort of obvious I am not gonna hang out with sexual losers. As for me that was really the status ladder that mattered. I sort of reflexively weighed people’s IRL opinions by their SMV. Opinions from low-SMV people always sounded like sour grapes to me.
Makes some sense. I tend to see it the other way around because to me it’s also a danger–safety thing. Leftism vs rightism is currently a conflict between being socially safe but physically in danger, and the exact opposite. Leftists socially condition/shame people into ignoring the physical dangers while rightists supply a dose of reality.
By the way I think I figured it out since last time we discussed this–male depression and female depression are two quite different conditions. Male depression = low self-regard, female depression = persistent despair.
Sane people you can talk to IRL. Online doesn’t seem to be enough.
I know someone who got much much much worse after he went from Central Mass (which still had some sane people up until early 2016 or so… virtually none by 2018 when I left) to non rural California (which to my understanding had none).
If it is true that childhood antidepressants made him asexual, he did not have much of a practical motive to learn about women. Of course a serious intellectual cannot just ignore studying the sexual motives of human behavior as they are obviously huge, but if he himself does not know what it feels like flying on the autopilot in the pants, he won’t understand them anyway.
Your instincts know how to seduce women a whole lot better than your conscious mind and willed intent. For me, the biggest part of game was knowing that the autopilot was doing things right, and my conscious mind should shut up and get out of the way.
But your conscious mind does need to navigate the social environment to get a woman isolated in place where sex can take place. From there on, autopilot works.
The information-flow problem might be real, but what I find remarkable is that Soviet engineers often designed advanced weaponry that could not be produced because it required more precisey manufacturing, smaller tolerances, that was doable in practice. A year or so ago I posted here a video of how Trabant cars were made in East Germany, fairly hilarious. There was something very bad on the basic management level, getting decent work out of workers.
My take is that of Talebs, that systems learn by elimination. That is, the point of markets is not really motivation. If a factory manager does not have an internal motivation to run the ship well, you cannot just motivate him by dangling a cash prize in front of him, I think in this sense people tend to misunderstand how capitalism really works. Rather you want that guy out and the place taken over by a manager who does have an internal motivation to do it well and this is what did not work. So you want that factory to go bankrupt so that its assets and workers are taken over by a better ran one, or that guy fired by shareholders who keep seeing red figures. I keep seeing people defende capitalism by saying you motivate people by cash prizes and I think it is missing the point.
‘Hurr durr capitalism motivates people because everyone wants to have more money than all the others’ is a Marxist meme that unfortunately many capitalists have internalized. There is a grain of truth to it but not much.
Capitalism works if, and because, the only way to get a profit, any profit, is to improve the lot of other people. If you find someone who has the internal motivation as well, so much for the better. The essence of NRx is that this principle should equally apply to the state.
And, I just realized, this maps perfectly to democracies and monarchies and the stages in between. From monarchies to republics to democracies the ‘managers’ get more and more disinterested and increasingly lack internal motivation as you put it, and at the same time increase their cash prizes.
There are a number of reasons capitalism works.
One is that there is a limitation of competence of central planning no matter how smart the central planners are. Pricing is an extra special problem in this respect.
One issue is motivation, so yes it does channel personal greed to at least sometimes positive incentives.
Doing something socially useful is not the only way to make a profit, I’m essentially a gambler right now (though my preferred vehicle is securities). Gambling is socially useful in that the smarter gamblers tend to end up taking the money from the dumber ones over time, and MIGHT eventually really invest the money in more useful ways if they actually go VC.
Off topic but interesting. Waiting for the vaccines is completely pointless:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/williamhaseltine/2020/09/23/covid-19-vaccine-protocols-reveal-that-trials-are-designed-to-succeed
All they do is reduce the symptoms. They do not protect you from the covid infection. Therefore no herd immunity, lockdowns forever ….
They are also amping up the reinfection narrative. Gay Boris Johnson self-isolating a month ago because one of his staff had COVID, even though he had the disease already and reinfections are incredible outliers (cancer patients etc.)
And ‘long COVID’ leading to fake disabilities like chronic fatigue, i.e. chronic welfare mooch syndrome.
Completely divorced from facts, exactly what they are accusing the right of being. At this point it should be obvious to normies that it would be kinder to shoot them in the head than to let them live out their delusions for one more day.
Watching them dump the concept immune system immunity overboard in real time has driven me crazy. I can’t argue with people over science anymore because science is effectively illegal to know now.
Science has been illegal to know since about 1970. I learned most about what I know about science even today as kid from old Asimov books: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/977262.Asimov_s_New_Guide_To_Science (published in 1960 and probably even then was pozzed on some points, for example I remember him being a warmist but then the left was coolist back then)
Then in school I failed an exam for explaining evolution ‘incorrectly’, i.e. describing how natural selection works. I still don’t know what that Karen teacher wanted to hear from me back then, but it was not natural selection. Maybe tree of life: https://blog.reaction.la/science/denying-darwinism/
And as Jim describes peer review since 1945 had killed scientific research long before. They are just tearing the skin suit apart now. I thought they would milk ‘the science’ a little longer but it looks like it’s not of use to them any more.
https://twitter.com/noborderkitchen/status/1333304615144714240
Lockdowns forever, for whites… For rapefugees they are oppressive and racist. At this speed of the holiness spiral, expect an op-ed to that effect in about a week.
https://reason.com/2020/12/04/epidemiologists-masks-social-distancing-vaccine-forever-new-york-times/
I was well justified in calling for a mass execution of all so called public health experts who did not from an early time oppose lockdowns.
They will be tried at the Military Tribunals along with all the vote fraudsters.
“Only 29 percent were willing to get a haircut”
What in the bloody cripes? Tell me you guys are getting haircuts.
Walmart now sells hair clippers for eleven dollars. Ask a family member to trim the back, or look around for a haircut-buddy. I’ve been doing this since long before Covid because haircuts are so expensive, owing to the time and expense of getting a barber’s license.
My wife does my boys with clippers, but I never take this advice seriously for an adult. She was doing my hair briefly in the spring, when all barbers were closed, and did a horrid job.
No woman has ever given me a good haircut. Always get it from a man.
I pay $65 for my nice haircut once every 2 months from a late middle-aged Japanese barber who has his own studio.
It’s expensive but I like looking handsome.
Good stuff.
Off-topic, would you take a vaccine? Something tells me the rollout is going to be massively delayed anyway and there are going to be a whole lot of saline solution injections. I am ordinarily no anti-vaxxer but I don’t trust the medical industry any more because of tech decline, especially not with mRNA.
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/11/23/dosing-error-paved-the-way-for-astrazeneca-and-oxford-vaccine-effectiveness.html (WTF)
From a very early stage, the notion of a ‘covid vaccine’, when looked at as something that could be pushed as an unofficially officially ‘mandatory universal injection’, could then also be used as a convenient pretext for pushing through other ‘riders’ in to go along with it, that folk otherwise ordinarily would never stick themselves out for.
The banality of evil bureaucratism could be the least of it; ie, functionaries mandating vaccines in accordance with their Official Science, such as only ‘approving’ vaccines that use old mercury or aluminum based preservatives to prove to the bigots that there is nothing wrong with heavy metal poisoning.
Pretty sure flu vaccines kill more people than flu does.
Vaccination was great back when we were worried about smallpox and polio, but more and more vaccines are being applied more and more indiscriminately against ailments that are less and less lethal, and for which vaccines are less and less effective. We are well past the point of declining returns.
Social security payments indicate the excess death rate resulting from China flu is now zero. There are no China Flu deaths. There are people who died of their ailments who had been exposed to China flu some time in their past. Pretty sure that if we vaccinate everyone with yet another vaccine, there are going to be some vaccination deaths.
“Social security payments indicate the excess death rate resulting from China flu is now zero.”
Basically what is going on is that Covid takes out people in the hospice stage of life *sooner* that they would have died otherwise, but the total deaths overall is still the same. From a computer science/engineering point of view Covid is draining the hospice FIFOs faster than before, but the FIFOs are still being stuffed at the same rate. So there may be a little bump as the FIFOs are initially drained and emptied, but the FIFOs aren’t being stuffed any faster, so there is natural flow control. There may be an initial transient, such as the NYC Cuomo nursing home fiasco, but the steady state death rate is still the same. This is standard pipeline theory.
No, it’s not even that. People went with that narrative back in June-ish but it can still be used to justify lockdows and shit based on “life-years” and other statistical sleight of hand. But it isn’t causing anyone to die sooner, that’s the new revelation from a few weeks ago. It’s just displacing other diseases and causes of mortality, especially heart disease.
It is as though a company announced $100 million in revenue from a new product and hyped it up through the media, but when you actually take a look at their financial statements, you find that every last dollar was cannibalized from some other product the company was already selling, and that they didn’t attract any new business whatsoever. That’s Covid, we just took deaths from other columns and put them in the Covid column, neither the people nor the times of death changed.
Possibly, some people did die early in places like New York, but not due to Covid, rather due to De Blasio forcing them into dangerous living conditions.
Actually, better analogy is that this hypothetical company decided to bundle their new product with all of their other products and booked it all as sales of the new product, with no changes at all to cash flow at any level – monthly, quarterly or annually.
Pretty sure this would raise alarms at the SEC, if done as a business practice. But when it comes to “public health”, par for the course.
it isn’t causing anyone to die sooner
Isn’t this is an overly broad statement? Lots of diseases have long-term effects that cause you to die sooner, especially if they weaken the heart. One relative of mine had a bad case of rheumatic fever in her thirties that weakened her heart and gave her lifelong heart problems; she died in her sixties, a couple of decades before her sisters. Families of long-term TB patients have similar stories.
And now my colleague, a very active 61-year old, had a bad bout of the Wuhan coronavirus and although mostly fine now, can no longer do the punishing 90-minute morning workout he used to do pre-coronavirus. His GP is sending him for an MRI to confirm heart damage from the (still very poorly understood) hyperthrombic activity associated with the coronavirus. It is hard to imagine that this did not age him a few years prematurely.
This blog is at least in part about believing what one sees with one’s own eyes, and what I see is a nasty viral illness less severe than the Spanish flu, but with potential long-term consequences much less well understood. I would be surprised if Anatoly Karlin’s early estimate that the Wuhan virus knocks a couple of years off of average U.S. lifespan doesn’t turn out to be mostly accurate.
If you get a virus that causes pneumonia you aren’t going to fully recover for a while afterwords. Pneumonia sucks.
But not recovering for a while after pneumonia is typical of any virus that causes pneumonia.
not recovering for a while after pneumonia is typical of any virus that causes pneumonia.
Perfectly true.
But the hypercoagulativity that comes along with a bad case of the Wuhan virus seems to be much worse, and maybe qualitatively different, than what you would have gotten from even the worst flus of the past. This virus also seems to cause morbidity associated with elevated seritonin levels in a way that is weird and not yet understood.
Of course it’s criminal for our elites to use the Wuhan virus as an excuse to lock down society in a dry run for whatever they’re planning later in the decade. But our side in the upcoming civil war is supposed to be the one that recognizes and acknowledges reality.
If I make sweeping generalizations about the coronavirus that are contradicted by what people see firsthand in coronavirus patients, then I undermine my credibility with those people, who I would rather have on my side in that civil war.
We are just not seeing those deaths in the social security data, except in the first two months.
I would say that anything different about the China flu was caused by the use of ventilators, not the flu
Major issue with the virus is that it drops your oxygen levels more than other flu, and in ways that other flues do not. Any flu is going to impair your oxygen intake, and if your oxygen intake is already pretty bad, you have a problem.
Which gives doctors an excuse for heroic high status radical medical intervention.
In the first two months we had a pandemic of heroic high status medical interventions against frail people, not a pandemic of flu. Or rather we did indeed also have a pandemic of flu, and it did kill quite a few people who did not receive heroic high status medical intervention, but it only killed people who were going to croak in a couple of months anyway from cascading organ failure. The drop in oxygen levels sped up the cascading organ failure.
Most of the deaths were caused by ventilators, and the rest were deaths that were in the pipeline.
On the social security data, it is the worst flu we have had for a long time, but not enormously worse than the 2018 flu, and it is likely that if not for heroic medical intervention, probably would have been fairly similar.
We are just not seeing those deaths in the social security data, except in the first two months.
Suppose for the sake of illustration that the Wuhan virus were to, on average, knock two years off the life of those who catch a bad case of it.
Then I think you would expect to see, first, the deaths of people who were going to succumb to something else within the next couple of years.
Next, you would see a slightly elevated death rate over time as the same effect pulls deaths backwards in time, but that would be hard to tease apart from confounders. For example, it might have been hard to tell that my relative’s death in her sixties had anything to do with the levels of rheumatic fever decades earlier given all the other changes over those decades.
If you’re not seeing any increase in overall death rate, that could be a flaw in my reasoning. But it could also mean that excess coronavirus deaths are more or less matched by reduced deaths from other causes.
I would say that anything different about the China virus was caused by the use of ventilators, not the virus.
Certainly ventilators seem to have been the wrong prescription for this virus and were dramatically overused.
But I would point to hypercoagulability in particular to claim that there is indeed something different about this virus compared to influenza. Even if that difference can’t be seen in death rates, if people notice it qualitatively firsthand in terms of post-infection morbidity (as I see with my colleague’s case), then it undermines the credibility of the Right if we stick to the contention that this virus is just a flu. So we should be very careful of painting with too broad a brush.
That’s not to say any of the establishment response to the Wuhan virus was proportionate. Doctors’ tendency to heroic high status radical medical intervention has a flip side: the medical establishment’s self-serving claims that there are no antivirals effective early, except maybe remdesivir, and it would take a (very holy, Cathedral-blessed) RCT to establish otherwise.
In fact, it seems very likely that early intervention with many things except than remdesivir would be effective early. But the establishment found it politically preferable to impose lockdowns and wait for establishment-blessed vaccines and RCTs, rather than pursuing low risk early treatments.
With platelet activity so high in bad cases of this virus, the simple suggestion that people ought to take a couple of aspirin and some Vitamin D daily as soon as they feel sick would likely have saved lives and certainly couldn’t have hurt. The fact that even this basic step wasn’t done suggests to me that our elites just didn’t want to let the crisis of a moderately severe viral disease go to waste.
The invisible intangible demon.
Your demons are powerless.
invisible intangible demon
Invisible in death statistics? Maybe.
Intangible?
If it were me that could no longer do my morning workout, I would consider it very tangible indeed.
And I would look more favorably on a Right that emphasizes the establishment’s botched handling of the disease, rather than one that emphasizes a narrative of it being just another flu.
“If it were me that could no longer do my morning workout, I would consider it very tangible indeed.”
You get any pneumonia causing flu and you aren’t going to be in great shape for a while.
“And I would look more favorably on a Right that emphasizes the establishment’s botched handling of the disease, rather than one that emphasizes a narrative of it being just another flu.”
Switzerland, South Korea and Japan could keep it from spreading. The US government no matter how smart the leader was… probably could not have. Trump or someone better would need to have been an autocrat for 10 years before the US government would have that level of competence on both high and low levels.
Emphasizing botched handling implies it could have been kept from spreading (in the US), that it was Trump’s fault and downplays what an overblown hoax this was from the beginning (yeah the virus exists, no its not that deadly). You essentially want the right to emphasize lies over truth.
Emphasizing botched handling implies … that it was Trump’s fault
Only insofar as the permanent government thwarted Trump at every turn.
The one thing I can fault Trump for, is that he should have taken pandemic response away from the CDC (a microcosm of the whole rotten establishment: leftist politicians at the top, ignorant black women at the bottom) and turned it over to some competent military officer.
Even if the permanent government had been willing it wasn’t competent enough. This is not Japan or South Korea.
Couldn’t have been done here, herd immunity should have been our policy from day one. Lockdown health risk people on a voluntary basis but otherwise do very little.
“I would be surprised if Anatoly Karlin’s early estimate that the Wuhan virus knocks a couple of years off of average U.S. lifespan doesn’t turn out to be mostly accurate.”
Similar to what I’ve read. Actuarilly your chance of dying from Covid is approximately the same as your chance of dying from natural causes over the next two years.
That is, *if you have a Covid infection your change of dying …” The statistic doesn’t include your chances of catching it.
If getting sick with Wu flu knocked two years of people’s lifespans, it would cause a bump in the excess deaths indicated by the social security data for two years.
It has not.
The worst case estimate consistent with the social security data is two months. And that we were using ventilators and stopped using ventilators after two months because we realized we were killing frail people suggests that the worst case estimate is pessimistic.
The social security data is consistent with it killing people who already have cascading organ failure that is going to kill them very soon indeed.
Anatoly Karlin is a competent entryist into the dissident right, in that he is able to publish ideas such as “Soviet Freezer Theory,†presupposing Progressivism the natural course of history, and still is taken seriously. All he does is blackpill and demoralize. Anyone who presumes Progressivism spreads not by force is an enemy, and it is best to avoid filth.
Agree, Karlin is great at writing stuff that’s plausible and complex and almost always misleading and mildly evil. He is absolutely not to be trusted, as are most Unz writers. (I still like Sailer, but overall the Unz Review is like a training ground for entryists.)
Anyone who presumes Progressivism spreads not by force is an enemy, and it is best to avoid filth.
Really? Here’s a version of Soviet Freezer Theory that I believe to be consistent with our host’s very compelling framework:
Progressivism is civilizational entropy, and entropy increases on its own as society proceeds towards the left singularity. Only an organized effort– energy input to the system– can halt the entropic increase of Progressivism, as the efforts of the Soviet state did for a while, mostly by accident.
The Anglican Church organized in 1660, and the Royal Society, were organized effort to reduce civilizational entropy. The battle of Waterloo was won on the playing fields of Eton.
Similarly the Christian state Church created by Alfred the Great’s ancestors.
Judges Israel and saga Iceland were theocracies without a state, or with very minimal and barely existent state. They worked fine for a while, eventually succumbed to entropy, (the sons of Samuel not following in their father’s ways) which entropy necessitated a King. Pagan Iceland got a Christian theocracy under a King. Under Solomon, the priesthood was purged.
Following Constantine, we see his social technology being replicated across the board, as in Alfred’s England and the end of saga period Iceland.
Charles the Second’s England was a recovery of the social technology of Alfred the great, which was a copy of the social technology of Constantine directly exported from and copied from Constantinople. I don’t know the chain of transmission of the social technology applied to Saga period Iceland, but it came originally from Constantinople. The priests were answerable to, and appointed by, the local King, but were part of Orthodox Christianity, so probably a direct export similar to that received by Alfred’s ancestors.
Alfred defeated the pagans, because the pagan leaders were always murdering each other. The pagan social technology for cooperation was failing, as it was starting to fail in Iceland. We see in Iceland the Godar (which can be translated as “god botherer”) becoming increasingly cynical about their supposed beliefs. It is probable that Charles the Second was pretty cynical also, but everyone shut up and went through the motions, and that sufficed. The Royal Society’s absolutely genuine commitment to observable truth meant that the state Church could survive a fair bit of quiet cynicism. What the state Church failed to survive was entryism by Socinians, who sincerely believed in something that was not Christianity, nor observable truth. Quiet cynicism was vulnerable to sincere heresy. People stopped caring about the 39 articles – which were designed to keep out very real enemies, the second article being the Socinian stopper.
Thank you Jim.
But I think that although progressivism is entropic and spreads naturally, neofugue was not wrong either.
Progressivism is spread by force, as witness USG’s strong-arming of its client regimes to allow gaymarriage and pride parades.
The question is why? Is it just that holier than thou leftists can’t abide the thought of heretics or dissidents existing?
The progressive state uses force to enforce progressive policies of course (such as lockdowns) but how does progressivism convert people to at least pretend convincingly to be progressives themselves…
Well progressivism being feminine in its essence as opposed to masculine old style Bolshevism prefers the velvet glove to the mailed fist.
Force is sometimes used, but more often overwhelming social pressure and coercion short of physical force is used.
Indeed so. And people are converted to progressivism because of its perceived higher status, funded from the progressive state’s robbery of apple carts and the extortionate tuition that the progressive university charges as a lottery ticket for admission to the progressive elite.
All that is clear. And it seems to me that as cracks begin to appear in the progressive edifice, it’s clear what the right wing must do: organize. Create a nexus of order to take over when progressivism either collapses in the left singularity, or (we may hope) to push the progressive state aside before its final collapse, a la Franco or Pinochet. And then to ensure that status within that new order is derived from creating actual value.
So maybe it’s irrelevant why progressivism is such a jealous god that it seeks to spread itself by force. But understanding one’s enemy can only help to defeat it, and that is one aspect of progressivism I still don’t understand.
“So maybe it’s irrelevant why progressivism is such a jealous god that it seeks to spread itself by force. But understanding one’s enemy can only help to defeat it, and that is one aspect of progressivism I still don’t understand.”
All universal religions have jealous gods.
Since progressivism is a form of universal demon worship… its going to be especially jealous.
Well and pithily put, Cominator. Thanks.
The reason is ‘equality’ and covetousness. If they can’t make all people equally smart, rich or attractive, they settle for making them all retards, crazy, welfare moochers and trannies. If anyone in the world retains virtue, he needs to be killed and assimilated, otherwise he is not equal.
It fights against anything that is ‘good and true’ because it can’t bear being compared to it. It’s an entropic force the way a fire is, but you put out a fire, you don’t put it into a freezer.
“The reason is ‘equality’ and covetousness. If they can’t make all people equally smart, rich or attractive, they settle for making them all retards, crazy, welfare moochers and trannies.”
Yes the endpoint of progressive logic is the short story Harrison Bergeron. The state puts handicap shit on everyone to make them equally suck (the movie where they had a hidden elite that ran things and that wasn’t crippled wasn’t in the original short story).
They call ‘Harrison Bergeron’ and ‘Modern Educayshun’ parodies. When our grandkids ask us why nobody stood up to the left for so long are we going to say ‘because we thought it was all a big joke’?
That take is acceptable but it is not Karlin’s “Soviet Freezer Theory,†which frames the advance of Progressivism as the march of history. Every nation has measures to counter entropy which must be disabled in order for Progressivism to spread; for example, support for homosexuals obtaining marriage contracts in Russia has declined in the last ten years, disproving Karlin’s Soviet Freezer Theory. The key is not the ideas themselves, it is how they are framed. It is impossible to look at someone who writes about “magacope†and conclude him anything more than a shill.
Katlin is an idiot and a Richard Spencer flunkie. He has a political economy degree from UC Berkeley, writes at Unz Review (entryist shithole), and regularly has terrible takes on Twitter:
https://mobile.twitter.com/akarlin88/status/1305912720563335168
I have no intention of getting the vaccine, and I’m pretty loud about it because this is still within the Overton Window here. Makes no sense anyway, I’m young and healthy and most likely had COVID already. Should have gotten an antibody test back then, Cathedral sources say after some time antibodies vanish, but that might be horseshit too.
This is more about convincing other people, or in the event they suddenly make it mandatory. Plan B might be paying off the local doctor to administer saline. I am not really worried about the vaccine itself being very harmful, even the preservatives, I’m more worried they are gonna screw up the manufacturing.
Info about flu vaccines is hard to come by. To Americans getting a flu shot seems to be a very ordinary thing, while in Europe they primarily give them to old people. You read some anecdotes on the internet, but usually from stopped-clock conspiratards. But of course, vaccines by the nature of them always have some risk. Believing in a religion that makes this-worldly claims cuts you off from perceiving trade-offs.
My kids are going to get the same vaccines I got–polio, diphtheria, measles (although maybe even that is not necessary) etc. But definitely not chickenpox–that’s retarded.
The story so far
> Modelling by ‘experts’ establishes logical connection between rate of deaths and final death toll due to health services reaching overcapacity.
> Amazingly the experts were wrong. So no logical connection between rate of deaths and total death toll.
> Through malice/stupidity/status-seeking by academics, governments continue to target rate of deaths with lockdowns and simply delay the inevitable (very ineffectively).
> Elites realise that people might actually analyse excess mortality/use Sweden as a control when all is said and done. Real risk that normies get angry about economic devastation and (more importantly) their malice/stupidity might be exposed.
> Must reestablish logical connection between rate of deaths and total death count by introducing vaccine ASAP and definitely before herd immunity reached.
> Rush through vaccines that would otherwise take years to test.
And this is all ignoring the fact that the virus is extremely mild and could never be used to justify this level of government interference by anyone with a sane risk tolerance.
What’s the insider’s vocabulary term for data that routes around cathedral filtration and fake news? Like for example the Social Security pay-out figures being used to reveal the death rate in accidental/unauthorized fashion?
That has to be a whole professional specialization, just right there.
samizdat
Lots of people below are talking about education reform. No one talking about fairly compensating those who performed well under the old system. I sense a lot of closet revolutionaries here, not reactionaries. Ever think you’re trying to beat the left at their own game?
No one deserves compensation for performing in academia.
Academic qualifications are only of value if they are evidence of ability to create value.
No one deserves or should receive compensation for work. They deserve value for creating value. Work has no value, unless it creates value. Work is worthless and deserves no compensation. People deserve the value that their work creates, if their work creates value.
And they also deserve the value that their wise application of capital to its highest and best use creates.
Work has no value. Creating value, however, often requires a great deal of work.
Looking for diamonds creates no value and deserves no reward. Finding diamonds creates value and deserves the value created.
I will resume silently deleting your excessively numerous comments if you ignore my response, and just go on presupposing th