Scale of deaths for flu and jab.

It is just the flu, bro.

Flu is caused by a multitude of different viruses, the common cold is caused by a multitude of different viruses, and some of these overlap.

Covid viruses have been around since forever, and some of them, most of them, most of the time, caused something more like a cold than flu

One of these Covid viruses was weaponized with gain of function genetic engineering, and became quite deadly when initially released. But being quite deadly is not really a flu virus’s thing Flu viruses are very fragile, and die quickly, so they want their host to be still walking around doing his normal things, and a variant of the covid virus that does not lay up it’s host in bed is going outcompete a covid variant with more serious effects.

Every flu season, quite a lot of people die. But no one dies of the flu. If someone has one foot in the grave and is wobbling on the edge, flu will give him a little push.

In the very very first days of the Covid virus, it was substantially deadlier than regular flu. As it rapidly evolved back towards what is normal for flu, they gave it a helping hand by murder by ventilator and by seeding old people’s homes with the deadliest forms they could find. But the normies wised up to that and started resisting ventilation, and so they dropped back to just lying with statistics. If you counted everyone who died while he had a cold, including those run over by at truck and so forth, it would be a very deadly disease.

Covid season is an unusually rough flu season, but it is not an extraordinarily rough flu season, except for a bit of a helping hand by iatrogenic mass murder the first time around.

OK, so much for flu season. We are now in jab season. And the increase in death rate is roughly similar to what we were supposed to cower from in terror during covid season, with one huge, terrifying, and very important difference.

Every flu season, the old people’s homes get a whole lot of vacancies. Now it is athletes on playing field, airline pilots at the controls, young people in the prime of life.

And the medical profession piously averts its eyes, revealing that they know what they deny knowing. While you were supposed to turn your life upside down because of a fairly normal flu season, you are not supposed to notice famous athletes dropping dead. The total death rate over all age groups is not hugely higher, in the sense that most people who die are still dying of old age, rather than jab, but the death rate among working age people is hugely higher, in the sense that it is normally very low. It is hugely higher than its normal very low rate. Most young people who die are dying of the jab.

Babylon Bee had an excellent satire on this:

Experts Say They Don’t Know What Thing Is Causing Everyone To Suddenly Collapse, But It’s Definitely Not That One Thing

U.S. — Medical experts are absolutely stumped as to what could be causing the recent uptick in healthy, young people everywhere that are suddenly collapsing with heart failure. Despite their uncertainty, experts do feel confident that we can rule out that one thing as the culprit.

“It’s too early to say what could be causing this, but it’s never too early to say what isn’t causing this,” said local expert, Dr. Scott Rufflinger. “This could be caused by anything. But the one thing we know for certain is that it’s definitely not that thing. … We can go ahead and rule that thing out right now because Science just called us on the phone and told us not to discuss it. We always follow Science.

1,399 comments Scale of deaths for flu and jab.

alf says:

In the past few weeks I have seen:
– the jabbed being conspicuously longer sick, especially in comparison with the non-jabbed.
– a long waiting list for burial procedures because unusually busy.

Very mysterious, no idea what is going on. If only there was one thing all these patients had in common.

Karl says:

In the past few weeks I have seen the most sever flu season ever. Never have so may people around me had the flu or something similar at the same time.

It is jab season and flu season at the same time.

jim says:

The jabbed have immune system damage, so catch and spread other flues in addition to Covid. Damage seems to be cumulative, in that boosted are copping it the worst.

The Cominator says:

I think having so many quasi aids patients in close proximity just keeps causing new no immunity colds and flus…

Red says:

I think both are going on. I haven’t been sick in like 9 months while the Mega Jabbed are getting very sick. But families of the unjabbed I know are getting very sick from their kids who are also getting very sick.

TiredTom says:

Our small rural county’s newspaper posts obits. Haven’t checked arithmetic, but it seems biweekly rates have doubled or tripled over the last year. Haven’t checked the arithmetic because I don’t want to proceed from impressions to demonstrations lest I find a violent response, for my peace of mind, is required too early to help generally.

someDude says:

Suppose we built a temple to the Science God with a sacrificial altar and sacrificed some lefties to propitiate this God ………..

Red says:

There’s a doctor in my community who was well know for pushing all patients to get jabbed or boosted. About 5 months ago he suddenly died. He was 48. The medical profession is going to pay for it’s sins.

jim says:

When they murdered Gadaffi despite him capitulating and making every concession, that was a lesson to every sovereign everywhere that the Global American Empire was not agreement capable, that trying to cut a deal would likely get you killed.

And when they persisted in ventilating ambulant covid patients even after the normies started to wake up that this was mass murder to boost the Covid numbers, that was a lesson to everyone that the our medical priesthood worships demons and is out make human sacrifices.

People are slow in waking up to the new abnormal. But they are waking up eventually.

Contaminated NEET says:

Not one Science-truster in my life has woken up. They’ve quieted down about the vexx, but none have admitted they were wrong, and none have apologized. I’ll believe it when I see it.

Red says:

Are they still taking boosters? No one I know is still taking them.

They can’t apologized because no one is going to forgive them. They worshiped a Demon when they took multiple vax shots and tried to force others to take them. It’s like eating him human flesh, they can’t go back to being normal again.

Contaminated NEET says:

The demon-worship thing is our frame; they don’t see things that way. All they would have to admit is that they were wrong and that they trusted authorities who misled them, but they can’t even do that. They still think they were right and they still trust those same authorities.

Red says:

>The demon-worship thing is our frame; they don’t see things that way.

>They still think they were right and they still trust those same authorities.

The frame fits. I know several people who have been harmed by the jab, who insisted everyone around them take it, and now refused the booster shots without explaining why. They know they were wrong, but they’re unable to return to normal. How does one admit that their faith was a deception? They have no one to blame but themselves.

> All they would have to admit is that they were wrong and that they trusted authorities who misled them, but they can’t even do that.

They showed such faith in the Covid Vaccine and it harmed them. They felt that they were taking evil into their bodies but continued to take jab after jab. A friend of mine took a 3 shot after he had a heart attack after the first 2 jabs. Talk about devotion. He refuse to speak about it now.

Men who took a single jab and said fuck this are able to talk about it and blame the people who lied to them. Men who continued jabbing themselves know that they accepted evil into their hearts physically and spiritually.

Look at this children:
https://twitter.com/eugyppius1/status/1614350067221102592?cxt=HHwWgIC8vae1qecsAAAA

Only Demon worshipers would do that. Good people would flee the very idea of taking part in that.

jim says:

> Look at this children:
> https://twitter.com/eugyppius1/status/1614350067221102592?cxt=HHwWgIC8vae1qecsAAAA
>
> Only Demon worshipers would do that. Good people would flee the very idea of taking part in that.

Yes, it is completely obvious that their psychological frame is not that they are engaged in medicine, but that they are engaged in human sacrifice to a demon, that the scientific and materialistic rationale is just a gobbledygook formula that is meaningless to them.

Red says:

Here’s the other pic from the thread:

https://twitter.com/monoteknic/status/1614335694041747457

Mother looks Demon possessed.

KD Archive link:
https://archive.ph/wip/ksr67

Contaminated NEET says:

Kids don’t like getting injections, and sometimes they cry and struggle; that’s nothing new and it’s not human sacrifice. Mom’s eyes, though… That is not right.

Anon says:

Even the materialistic rationale is becoming increasingly insufficient as mental frame work
Here is noted athiest having mental/logical breakdown

“I mean, so, let’s say let’s say five years from now we learned that Ivermectin is actually perfect, right? Just for whatever reason the studies we had back in 2020 and 2021 were poorly run but we did this perfect study and you know Ivermectin is perfect and what’s more the vaccines, they’re way more dangerous than anyone thought, and you know you don’t want any of that mRNA stuff in you, right?

So, Brett Weinstein turns out he was right about everything, right? Will he be Vindicated?

Not really, because at the time his reasons for thinking what he was thinking at the time were insufficient, right? His conviction at the time was bizarre, I mean he literally called the vaccine ‘the crime of the century,’ right? And predicted that millions of people are going to die from it, right? If millions of people do die from it, it’s still true that at the time he said that, it was a deranged and deranging claim, right? And it just made absolutely no sense.”

Red says:

Here’s the first reply under that boy getting Jabbed:

> Look those demon eyes

Anon says:

*sam harria

Contaminated NEET says:

OK, here’s the materialist explanation for Momma Demoneyes:

Normally, a mother would be sad and empathetic when seeing her child suffer, even if she thinks it’s necessary and for his own good. This mom, though, is excited about the social media likes she’ll earn and the demonstration of tribal loyalty she’s making, and her child’s suffering perversely enhances the power of the gesture. We’re naturally repulsed to see this, and so call her demon-possessed.

jim says:

But consider the jab enforcers, of whom the mother is one menial. They passionately desire to make other people, strangers, perform the ceremonies of their faith. This does not make sense as likes on social media, it does not make sense as a materialistic measure to protect one’s health against a material disease. It only makes sense as sacrificing the other to the demon.

Social approval on social media should be inconsequential compared to the approval of her child. She seeks the approval of the Mighty and Awesome Covid Demon, by sacrificing her child to it.

You might argue that she could be motivated by material concerns, she believes it necessary for the health of her child, but that does not explain the demon eyes, and it does not explain the crowd of nurses eagerly mobbing the child.

simplyconnected says:

Anon wrote:

So, Brett Weinstein turns out he was right about everything, right? Will he be Vindicated? Not really […]

That was pretty much Scott Adams’ reaction: “you were accidentally right”. They won’t be able to gaslight their way out of this one.
At some level they must understand that soon no one will trust anyone who pushed the jabs.

Western Taliban says:

Kids don’t like getting injections, and sometimes they cry and struggle; that’s nothing new and it’s not human sacrifice.

I’ve never in my entire life seen a mob of satanic cackling witches surround a little girl to forcefully rape her with magic goodies coming on a tube. This situation is absolutely new and it is absolutely human sacrifice. And if I had seen this I would have not been able to stop myself from interceding, because this is pure evil. Thank God my brother would never allow anything like this to happen to one of my beautiful nieces or I would end up on a speedrun to become a mass murderer and terrorist.

These women… they are all fat, ugly, probably infertile, childless and forsaken, and they are ecstatic at the thought of ruining the little girl’s potential future so she can join their ranks. Just like the dried up post-wall sluts in their 30s writing column advice for younger women so they learn “the truth” and “make the right choices” while simultaneously using make-up to try to look as young as possible, try to dry the youth out of younger men, and massively cope in their lives with wine and Prozac to not hang themselves.

All of these people know even if they pretend they don’t know, they all do. People always know a lot more than they pretend to know, especially when they are doing something wrong. And these women are behaving in the same satanic way than faggots do, trying to inject their demons into children.

i says:

The breakdown of the materialist paradigm leads people to abandon it. But unfortunately often in favor of Paganism:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKI8o4uTRS0&ab_channel=BjornAndreasBull-Hansen

As this Scandinavian Heathen himself notes. And he has seen through the vaccines.

jim says:

Neopaganism is an attempt to revive a dead religion. When they lost track of their forefathers, they lost their Gods.

His criticisms of Christianity are perfectly true, that Christianity won militarily, but the reason the heathens were militarily defeated is that their faith was already dead before Christians hit it.

The old gods were ancestors, paganism without ancestor worship becomes lifeless as in Greece, or demonic as in Rome.

A2 says:

That vein bulging out of Possessed Mommy’s forehead really provides the finishing touch.

Fidelis says:

Framing things as paganism shows how unserious they are, how little they believe in what they are saying.

Using a large umbrella term for “not-Abrahamic belief system” instead of a specific name identifying their cult, or a large umbrella term that is of their own frame. “I worship the old gods” sounds far less gay than “I practice paganism”, even if they both signify larpism.

A2 says:

At the ‘old gods’ point you recite CS Lewis at them, “Cliche came out of its cage”. They would not have been pagans of good standing back then either.

https://allpoetry.com/Cliche-Came-Out-of-its-Cage

jim says:

> The demon-worship thing is our frame; they don’t see things that way

They don’t think a personified “history” is a demon, they don’t think a personified “earth” is demon, they don’t think that that they are displaying rituals of respect to a personified Covid.

But they are not acting and thinking as if these things were material, impersonal phenomena. They are acting and thinking as if these things are demons, and they worship those demons. They think that they are materialists, or most of them do, but they are not acting and thinking like materialists, but like occultists.

jim says:

The vaccine sequelae could have come as a surprise, though we are seeing increasing evidence that they were deliberately throwing a monkey wrench into the vaccinated, but that the jab was likely to result in endless covid infections was known from the beginning: https://igorchudov.substack.com/p/fauci-knew-boosters-could-cause-immune

This was demonic sacrifice from the beginning. They created a bioweapon, released it, and when it failed to kill enough people, created the jab in the hope that it would kill more people.

Red says:

A women I’ve known for years is sounds like she’s dying every time I talk to her. Moderna 3 or 4x. She’s low level sick all the time now.

Starman says:

@Contaminated NEET
Yeah, but…

Are they still taking boosters?

Contaminated NEET says:

A minority of them are still loudly and proudly boosting, but most of them have quieted down about it, so it’s hard to say.

Guy says:

Two employees of mine going for a booster got mockery from me the other day. I noticed they no longer had a mocking, superior, disbelieving attitude but instead acted like I was being a bad sport for reminding them of how dumb they were/right I was. It’s obvious to them the vaccines are useless at the very least, and probably dangerous, but they still must get them to remain in the tribe and to avoid beatings from their wives.

Maverick says:

I exist in a web of Boomers both related and unrelated. I have had some of them excoriate me for my lack of commitment to my health by not getting every shot. I have had them shy away and shun based on that same belief. It’s not lessening, they just have backed off after I’ve pushed back enough for them to shut up about it. They come at me and mine on all side channels, with snide remarks, female-to-female social pressure on the down-low, trying to “educate” in various ways. It’s not going to stop, and I await the passing of some of them, the worst of them, with a sense of resignation mixed with anticipation.

Amongst the Gen-X’er generation, those in blue areas are completely oblivious and run the same attitude and needling as the Boomers, and get every shot they can AFAICT. Those in red areas are mixed, some know (and a subset of those are militant about it, knowing what we here know), some suspect, some are oblivious, but the red areas have the advantage of the culture itself pushing back enough for the oblivious not to be so pushy as the blues.

Millennials? Z’s? Hard to tell. I suspect some of the Z’s know more than they let on. Blue Millennials are much as their Boomer parents/grandparents. I know a crew of Z’s in a red area that are far beyond even their militant X’er parents – a breath of fresh air, and enjoyable to compare notes with them, as sometimes they have read more studies than I have. Some plan careers fighting against this horror. But then they have neighbors and peers who are oblivious, so it’s not universal.

Red says:

Who are you? I don’t recall seeing you post here before.

Maverick says:

I lurk often, post rarely. Just another vaguely white, vaguely Christian grey man trying to survive what’s been happening… and what is likely to happen.

Red says:

Fair enough.

Kunning Drueger says:

Can loosely corroborate.

Warms the cockles of my heart, seeing both the blatant challenge and the simple, measured response.

Red says:

It was a very non shill like response. With a name as cool as Maverick I would have thought I’d remember him posting before and he spoke like he was a long time member of the community.

His response wasn’t scripts like and if it was a new sort of script it would have been followed up by many comments. Shills are always running a script and I don’t detect one here, just a very different experience from my own which is to expected in different communities.

Maverick says:

I used a target site search to find when I last posted. This was the last one I think, 10 months ago. https://blog.reaction.la/war/war-and-the-gay-parade/#comment-2824750

Kunning Druegger says:

You should post more if GNON compels you. Just a thought, no pressure. *hammer click*

Jehu says:

I know where you’re coming from with the Boomers. Even the really conservative Boomercons can’t grok that the institutions are totally corrupted. My father in law is a good example of this. I have reason to believe that the vax and the boosters may be what’s killing him now. It makes me sad because frankly, I love the guy. He really is the sort of guy that made America work when America worked, and hell, he gave me his virgin daughter for a wife, for which I’ve given him three of his seven grandchildren. It strikes me as awfully likely that the vax has taken a good ten years off his healthy life.

Of the boomer generation, only the out and out hardcore conspiracy theory types are half as paranoid as reality would dictate. I knew a few of them growing up—I always liked them for some reason.

Maverick says:

Two more to add here: My FIL same thing, a nice guy, ex-mil, but a blue like his daughter. Believes with a capital B in the shots. Has vertigo that was coincident with the vax, where he can’t tell up from down and has to walk (slowly) with two walking poles just to provide physical feedback as to what’s down so he doesn’t fall over. He’s degrading rapidly and soon to go I think. Sadness there.

On the flip side, Boomer uncle, hardcore tunnel hunter in Vietnam, into every conspiracy theory and made up some of his own… totally into all the shots, gets very defensive as though he might suspect something, but just chest-thumps his way through the conversation. This Boomer was the only one in the universe I would have expected to have figured things out early. Nope…

Red says:

Conspiracy theories are a hobby for lots of people, they don’t actually believe them. I found that with COVID that I was not nearly paranoid enough and that I had a lot trust in people that I should have zero trust in.

Maverick says:

[Looks like Reply is not allowed N levels deep so I respond to @Red at this level]

>> I found that with COVID that I was not nearly paranoid enough and that I had a lot trust in people that I should have zero trust in.

@Red I have to say this is the most succinct summary of the past 3 years that I’ve seen. Thank you for that, I might put it to use. The only other short retort that I’ve been mulling for people starting to wake up is, “Ah, you hadn’t realized yet? Yes, of course the government is killing and sterilizing you.” Maybe a bit strong for most, might give them “the vapors.”

And yes, my trust is now gone for most people and institutions. I wish to get far away from Them but they’re everywhere. Never has walking a lonely mountain range alone except for a couple of dogs seemed so welcoming as now. The movie “Jeremiah Johnson” comes to mind.

Jehu says:

Thing is my FIL is pretty conservative, and his wife and children are all very respectful of him. So he’s probably more reactionary than 95% or so of his contemporaries. Still wasn’t enough, apparently you need to be out beyond 2 sigmas in distrust of the medical establishment if you’re a boomer to avoid the vax. None of my household got the vax though, nor will they. My method was to keep dragging my feet and to finally submit a religious exemption request only once it was absolutely necessary to do so. Interestingly enough, I never got an answer on it, the impetus to force the vax died before it was processed.

Maverick says:

@Jehu good on ya for the passive-aggressive approach. As good as anything and you still have yours and your family’s health. This is not the end of it, though, so prepare mentally for foot-dragging not to work as well the next time.

Jehu says:

Retirement also remains an option, with of course the stipulation that if you need me after that to bail you out of a problem, well, my consulting rates start at 6 figures. I suspect that my company’s executives saw the writing on the wall and realized if they pushed too hard that they’d lose a critical mass of competence. Too bad they can’t see the same thing regarding the whole woke mind virus—a lot of the problem in the companies that Jim mentions which I won’t detail any further is a problem of morale. Telling skilled engineers to waste time on things like ‘master slave’ or ‘blacklist’ or ‘guru’ or other language is a guaranteed morale drain, just as is hiring people who can’t actually do the work. One of those companies Jim mentions with high morale, as opposed to the current state of low morale, IMO could actually fulfill its function.

Maverick says:

I’m in tech too, with peers who are boosted to the max and just keep running out to get them. They mandated and crowed about 98% compliance – but neglect to mention the sizable percentage who left at the due date. Then suddenly a few months ago they decided that prior infection was good too, and shut down the periodic comms in a right hurry just after the natural immunity email. Sort of like they discovered something and wanted to stop digging the hole deeper.

Hiring at this company explicitly calls out white males as not-to-be-considered for positions. It’s moving to an explicit quota system at all levels of hiring. It’s gotten bad enough that diverse managers find they want to hire competence but are barred. They at least can complain upward and not be immediately terminated. A version of critical race theory was rolled out a couple of years ago, and interestingly unlike every other required training this one had no feedback survey or link afterward. I laughed; everyone else proceeded to abase themselves virtually to the agenda they worship – or claim to worship in the hope of getting their kids through college eventually.

Maverick says:

Oh and @Jehu – don’t forget renaming ‘master’ branches and spending weeks of time tracking down the old branch name in your and every other dependency. Totally worth the time. Totally.

Think $1250/hour for a starting consult rate. That’s $10K gross per day, a nice round number that adds up to ~$2M per year. Let them negotiate down to $800 to let them feel like they won something.

Contaminated NEET says:

They’ll pay in loss of credibility with the most independently-minded 20-30% of the population, but that’s it. Unless literal corpse-carts are driving around to pick up the vax-dead from each house, that’s the best we’re gonna get. A slight increase in death rates isn’t going to bring out the pitchforks and torches, especially with the media ignoring and denying as hard as they can. If the media were to turn on the docs, it’d be a different story, but their own hands are soaked in blood and they’re smart enough to try to keep the normies docile about the whole thing.

jim says:

As I said before, I am doubtless in an internet bubble, but I don’t think I am in an IRL bubble. A significant minority of normies have woken, up, still a small minority, but far from being a tiny minority.

If twenty percent of the population realize what is going on, our rulers are in deep doo-doo.

Karl says:

If twenty percent of the population realize what is going on, our rulers are in deep doo-doo.

Why do you think so? I can easily imagine 20% of the population realizing what is going on, but being powerless to do anything against it. What could or should those 20% do? How could those 20% organize on a larger scale?

jim says:

They cannot, but when Constantine marched on Rome, Christians were maybe six percent or so.

That the mass of people know something, does not mean they can act. But it changes the calculation for someone that can.

Karl says:

Constantine faced a dead faith. Maybe 6% is enough against a dead faith. I doubt 20% is enough against a living faith.

In way the official state religion is dying as a few percenting are defecting, and few percent are only paying lip service, but my impression that the offical state religion is alive and well. Plenty of people believe in equality, feminism and global warming for example.

Moreover, the offical state religion can simply ditch the covid worship and keep the rest.

Starman says:

@Karl

”but my impression that the offical state religion is alive and well.”

Not live enough to prevail against an actual living religion (see Afghanistan, see the reliance on Azov).

ten says:

We are war apes. Everyone is used to the apes on top being jerks. People are not used to the apes on top trying to kill them. It is a powerful thing, to realize someone is an enemy.

Had a talk over dinner to a bunch of millennial normie, ie not far right ultrareactionary sith lord, friends. The vaxes came up. We three who vocally refused to take it got a couple of apologies from friends who had given us trouble over it (i actually fail to remember any trouble they gave us, maybe they wanted to but were too polite and apologized for their thoughts. idk.) and one came out as having pretended to take it to avoid getting hassled.

“I just dont get how you could be so naive.”
“i dont know.. everyone was pressuring.. like why would everyone make it out to be such an important thing.. it feels like.. it was all insane..”
awkward silence.
“totally fucking insane.”

The normie that stopped boosting is numb, dumbstruck.

You know the alinskyite subversion strategy map of active resistance-passive resistance-passive support-active support? Every single human being who is not on the double down train shifted a step away from GAE. And stuff like this spreads slowly among the people who arent terminally online. It’s moving, and it’s great to see.

jim says:

> The normie that stopped boosting is numb, dumbstruck.
>
> You know the alinskyite subversion strategy map of active resistance-passive resistance-passive support-active support? Every single human being who is not on the double down train shifted a step away from GAE. And stuff like this spreads slowly among the people who arent terminally online. It’s moving, and it’s great to see.

They adopted a policy of killing off all their true believers, before their power was sufficiently secure for such a strategy to work.

Contaminated NEET says:

Who out there has the skills, the connections, the understanding, and the cojones to be the new Constantine? Our rulers have done excellent work suborning, confusing, castrating, or shunning any potential opposition leaders.

Starman says:

@Contaminated NEET

”Who out there has the skills, the connections, the understanding, and the cojones to be the new Constantine? Our rulers have done excellent work suborning, confusing, castrating, or shunning any potential opposition leaders.”

Not enough for a single caesar, but good enough for a triumvirate.

Robert says:

I think about this a lot. Why don’t we have a freikorps? Why no real resistance? I think you get to a point where you are not capable of producing men that can save you. I think what we have is terminal. Not to say something won’t rise from the ashes, but I just feel in my gut that it’s over. We are locked into some kind of loop, the blind leading the blind. Personally I’ve retreated to the Bible Belt to finish in a place that has some semblance of the country of my birth.

jim says:

> Why don’t we have a freikorps? Why no real resistance?

The freikorps was mustered by state and federal governments – roughly the same thing as the US national guard.

Ron DeSantis has been teasing us with the prospect of what would be the US equivalent of a Florida friekorps. If he wants to be president, or he just wants to die in bed, I would recommend to him that he do it. Of course, might just get him killed faster.

You cannot do diddly unless you have a powerful internal or external backer. If Ron DeStantis organizes the functional equivalent of a freikorps, that is an internal backer.

No way Xi will back the internal US resistance until he gives up attempting to perform necromancy on the dead body of Marxism, and Putin would find it very difficult to back the internal resistance unless he had what the US has – hostile states on the US border. But the US will attempt to nuke the world before it lets Russia get hostile states on its border. Putin should have taken a similarly intransigent line to hostile states on the Russian border.

Frontier says:

shorturl.at/ijG68

It’s already past 20%. Recent Rasmussen poll found 49% of Americans think it’s likely jab side effects are causing a significant number of “unexplained” deaths, including 28% who think it’s Very Likely (vs. 37% and 17% for the opposite beliefs).

28% also say they think it’s likely someone who they personally know died from the jab.

Redbible says:

Also, according the the government’s own data, in the US, 25% never took the Jab. and another 50% took at least once, but then stopped.

I’d imagine that the real data is even more in our favor (even in only by a little) since we know that some people faked taking the shot.

Red says:

Contaminated NEET says:

OK, here’s the materialist explanation for Momma Demoneyes:

Normally, a mother would be sad and empathetic when seeing her child suffer, even if she thinks it’s necessary and for his own good. This mom, though, is excited about the social media likes she’ll earn and the demonstration of tribal loyalty she’s making, and her child’s suffering perversely enhances the power of the gesture. We’re naturally repulsed to see this, and so call her demon-possessed.

Demons maybe real or not, but she knowingly inflecting harm on her own child for personal gain against her evolutionary imperative that her children survive and prosper. You can’t explain her behavior as an evolved trait since people who display it, won’t last long in the gene pool. Materially there’s nothing but harm from this behavior and let she fully expects to be reward for it. That behavior defies material explication.

We’ve evolved to recognize the faces of evil. That is face is the face of Demon possession, weather Demons are real or not.

Another example:

https://www.dcclothesline.com/2018/07/16/fbi-agent-peter-strzok-looked-possessed-wiggles-like-a-snake-like-hillary-clinton/

Peter Strzok was feeling the power of a Demon when lying to the world about Trump.

The interesting things about the human mind is how powerful belief is. The placebo effect once thought to be fake, turned out to be real in many cases, the mind could physically change things in the body if the belief was strong enough. The act of Demon worship just requires the right level of self destructive belief and action.

Red says:

The history of failed HIV vaccine trials confirms that overvaccination causes class-switching towards non-inflammatory IgG4 antibodies, reducing the effectiveness of the immune response:

https://www.eugyppius.com/p/the-history-of-failed-hiv-vaccine

FrankNorman says:

Something it occurs to be to wonder: what would be the evolutionary explanation for demon-worship? People, and entire societies, who go that path are removing themselves from the gene pool, so how come such people with such inclinations still exist?

someDude says:

It’s a good strategy for a few to defect (demon worship) in a general environment of cooperation……

See Neurotoxin’s excellent post on the topic.

Kunning Drueger says:

This is an extremely lazy request, but can you link it here?

Encelad says:
someDude says:

Yes, thats one of two. There is another where he argues that in an environment of everyone cooperating, defection becomes extremely profitable and hence inevitable. Hence you can never eliminate defection and defectors. Some will always risk draconian punishments (to the extent that they exist, if at all) for outsized rewards (which certainly exist).

Similarly, in an environment where everyone defects and no one trusts another, cooperation becomes extremely profitable and inevitable for those smart enough. You will have some cooperation even in an extremely low trust society. It’s just that it is small scale, as in one’s extended family or clan or tribe or caste.

Now, for the life of me, I can’t find that particular post on his site. The search box is quite unhelpful. But the post exists. I did not dream it up.

Kunning Druegger says:

Here’s a koan for NRx internet:

All you need to know is contained therein
All you have to do is read every word yourself

Not my best work lel. Here’s one of the phrases that used to get bandied about in 2nd/3rd gen NRx that had a very heavy influence on my journey:

I tried to reach Master Moldbug, but the way was too long
So I went to Master Jim, and he beat me with a stick.

I operate under the assumption that if we do anything to make the material more accessible, it will all vanish with no explanation, which is endlessly frustrating

Red says:

I operate under the assumption that if we do anything to make the material more accessible, it will all vanish with no explanation, which is endlessly frustrating

That’s a very interesting idea. I’m impressed.

Neurotoxin says:

Man, how long was I away from the Net for? Longer than I thought, apparently.

Anyway: someDude, indeed, you didn’t dream it up. It’s here:
https://neurotoxinweb.wordpress.com/2021/07/10/darwin-hayek-nash/
Scroll down to the section titled “Some Applications.”

Guy says:

Groups cohere around shared worship of Gods/sprits/demons, and outcompete those that cannot. The peculiarities of that worship are not well defined and dependent on too many emergent factors to code for rigidly. Stricter coding would restrict the conditions under which groups can cohere so much that they simply wouldn’t.

jim says:

Exactly so. Figuring out whether you are cohering with a group that is going to destroy you is hard.

We have a lot of instincts that help us detect evil. But evil is nonetheless hard to detect. Evil always wears a mask,

Karl says:

Sure, we have a lot of instincts that help us detect evil, but the costs of false positives vary depending on a man’s situation.

A man with a family, friends and community, can shy away whenver he has the faintest suspicion of evil. Joing a new group offers little upside (even if the group is goodl) and a lot of downside (if the the group is evil).

The situation is different for a lonely man. For him almost any group that is willing to take him offers a lot of upside. Might even be rational to accept some risk in his case.

Pax Imperialis says:

Think of it like taking on debt. You are borrowing power from the future to have more power in the now. Since power can be used to make more power, you may end up with far more power in the future than had you not borrowed at all. So why stop borrowing? Conversely you may find you’ve borrowed so much that there is no future for some debts can’t be repaid.

i.e. Taking some women from the home and putting them in the workforce is akin to borrowing future population for a greater workforce population in the now. Higher GDP in the short term allows you to dominate and out compete others in the short term, but one finds that it’s difficult to stop borrowing and soon the entire woman population is in the workforce and birth rates are terminal. The process still takes long enough that the more powerful, however temporal their power is, will still reproduce.

Arakawa says:

Once a subspecies reaches some level of deleterious mutational accumulation and departs from the laws of God, it could be argued that the genetically optimal thing to do is to spiral into mass-suicide, so the ecological niche opens up for your less-mutated cousins to move in and take over. A handful of your most resilient individuals might survive and contribute to the gene pool of the invaders.

This is cold, godless evolutionary logic but it makes sense to me. Disembodied demonic entities are of course happy to contribute memes to accomplish the mass-suicide part.

Kunning Drueger says:

This is a very midwit explanation, and I’m sure others could do much better with the same idea, or counter it and explain why it’s incorrect.

One of the most important things that needs to happen in our sphere is the marrying of monotheism and evolutionary psychology. To me, this seems incredibly obvious and actually quite simple, but in practice, I am finding that the devoutly religious refuse to countenance the idea of evolution, and the staunchly Realist refuse to countenance the idea of the importance of the immaterial. both sides need each other desperately, and neither side seems willing to admit this. of course, I am exempting the handful of brothers here who seem to be doing this very thing. In this one specific instance, I think it’s actually very useful to be a mercenary midwit, by which I mean a midwit with no current genius to be a sycophant for. as discussed elsewhere, the big problem with midwits is that they’re all on the wrong team, or they’re all worshiping the wrong gods, or they’re just not open to realizing that their current intellectual leaders are actually no smarter than they are, but that’s a different topic for a different time. My point is, I don’t really have an issue pushing monotheism and evolution together in my mind. They actually seem to flow together very well. but this does require blind faith as well as at least the modicum of intelligence to see that evolution analogs pretty much categorically prove that evolution is possible, maybe even likely, as derived just from the digital evidence. I know I’m getting into dangerous territory with some of the words I just used, and much smarter people could come in and pick out points that somehow refute the larger idea by being grossly mischaracterized or incorrect, but I don’t really care. God made me with evolution, it’s your problem if you can’t see how obviously true that is.

I think this applies to daemonology in a very complicated way. I don’t think daemons and angels are timeless, but I do believe they exist in a realm outside of time as we understand it. So to us, they are functionally infinite. We can’t really kill them, we can’t really understand their motivations past what we are told about them, and as the brilliant and inscrutable Nick Land has recently pointed out, we lack the intellectual capacity to deal with something as smart and subtle as a demon/angel, so there’s no way we can cross mental swords successfully with them. This is an incredibly important observation that I feel future generations will look back to with awe and trembling. You have no way to know if you are dealing with a daemon or an angel, there is nothing you can do from inside your own mind or your experiences that will help you suss this out. All you have is the word of God and the experiences of the Saints. that is literally it, though I bet there is a gut check exception for some really really bad ass dudes (there’s a long lost 4chan greentext about a powerlifter who took on a lesser daemon and won).

I think humans have evolved the capacity to sense the immaterial, in a profoundly unique way, relatively recently within biological history. I think the angels being cast out of heaven is a reference to this happening, and I wonder if it’s a bit of recreative history to say they were cast out, as opposed to sneaking out of heaven to go mess with the monkeys who were doing stuff that monkey should not do (I am being satirical here, I’m not trying to rewrite the Bible). It’s an open question as to what our biology can give to us in terms of interacting with the immaterial, but the record is showing very clearly that we are not suited to the task, and it’s going to take a lot to save us from our poor instincts when it comes to the divine. daemons and angels both seem to know this, but it’s also seems like they have different responses to it. consider how the Bible tells us that the battle has already been won that we’re just working our way through the pages of a story that’s already written. If you step back and think about that, it’s kind of confusing as to why the adversary continues to fight. but the more I think about it, the more terrifying it becomes to me that there’s really no guarantee that we are the only children of God that must return to him. We could just be one of a very large group of his creation that need to find a way back to him, and while he wants every single one of his children to come home, he already knows that some will make it and some won’t. some Protestant sects Make it integral to their identity that they are chosen, and others are not. as it stands right now, I see no reason why that can’t apply to what we refer to as xenobiology. I know this branches off into a very speculative direction, but I think it behooves us to remember that our biological tool kit for dealing with the immaterial and considering the divine, if we look at chronology alone, couldn’t even be characterized as in its infancy, but rather it is embryonic.

I don’t think humans have been interacting with daemons long enough or successfully enough to have really evolved any traits that can be objectively considered positive. In my mind, it is similar to how copper interacts with bacteria; The bacteria can’t really evolve any kind of work around do to the nature of the interaction. As well, there’s no guarantee regarding a parity in headcount; there could be, from our biologically constrained perspective, three angels and countless daemons. there might be rules that angels follow and daemons don’t, with far reaching consequences beyond our capacity to fathom, causing irregularities and “violations” that negate our concepts of “just” or “fair.”

I have arrived at this cave-man level position: daemons will always present themselves as what you expect or need or want or desire, as a thing inherently desirable and believable, and angels will not do this. So when a daemon appears, your instincts are screaming “such beauty, such elegance, truly this is a messenger of God!” where as when an angel appears, he has to spend a very long time convincing you that you need not be afraid while you are consumed by dread and terror at the miniscule glimpse of the Immaterial Beyond.

Adam says:

Some things to note- demons are a product of the mind, as is temptation. The mind has an interesting feature in that something can exist inside of it that cannot exist outside of it. Which is really quite odd, a picture of a thing can exist but the thing itself cannot. The enemy is always deception and denial of consciousness (self-deception). Deception is always driven by fear, also a product of the mind. Also things that cannot be real in your mind can and do feel real.

The demon problem walks hand in hand with the problem of the fool. Only Christ can save us, and only with the truth can we save ourselves.

Adam says:

Further, fear produces entropy, courage produces order. Notice the Covidians crucified any and all heroic, courageous attempts by doctors etc. to produce alternative treatments. The heroes were de-platformed or worse.

Fear met with courage will produce a fight response. Fear met with cowardice will be produce a flee or freeze response.

Absent courage, fear will trigger the mind to take control, which is odd considering the mind does not control you. Throw a person who cannot swim into a pool, fear will motivate them to take control and flail around until drowned. Courage will relax you, and you will more or less float. Much of life is like this. Taking control in your mind is a major mistake, a failed fitness test.

Demons do not have power over you until you give up your power over yourself. Once you do that you are a slave to your demon. Demons can be defeated though, met with truth and courage the will themselves flee.

Red says:

I learned the real power of fear with COVID. I let it consume me to my own determent.

The Cominator says:

I never understood the fear i just looked at the South Korean data and calmly concluded with a 99.9% of probability it was fake and gay.

jim says:

> One of the most important things that needs to happen in our sphere is the marrying of monotheism and evolutionary psychology. To me, this seems incredibly obvious and actually quite simple, but in practice, I am finding that the devoutly religious refuse to countenance the idea of evolution

Not seeing it. No one who buys the progressive position on women is staunchly religious, and all the young earth creationists are blue pilled. They believe in a literal seven days of creation because they do not believe in a literal curse of Eve. If you do not believe in a literal curse of Eve, weaker vessel and all that, not staunchly religious.

Because sperm is cheap and eggs are dear, the stereotypical male sexual misconduct is to sleep with more women than he can husband, mate guard, nor be a father to his children, while the stereotypical female sexual conduct is to be forever on the prowl for an upgrade, serial monogamy, usually with a long gap between kicking the husband out of the master bedroom and inviting the pool boy into the master bedroom, or answering a booty call from Jeremy Meeks. If a chick is answering your booty calls, she is probably not answering anyone else’s, in that anyone she would answer is seldom calling, you are the highest alpha who gives her booty calls reasonably often. The anti evolutionist “Christian” cannot call gay schoolteachers groomers, and cannot call out female misconduct, therefore, not staunchly religious.

If he believes in young earth creationism, he thinks single moms are heroes, and cannot call schoolteachers groomers.

In our era, the woman question is central and critical.

If he believes in young earth, he believes that the wife who kicks her husband out of the master bedroom is being chaste and virtuous, and if she subsequently invites the pool boy in, still being chaste and virtuous provided she observed a reasonable interval between kicking husband out and inviting pool boy in.

Old Christian position was that women were the weaker vessel, inherently less virtuous than men and prone to foolish self destructive behavior, hence needing supervision and control. New prog position they are the stronger vessel, since not prone to stereotypical male sexual sin, and stereotypical female sexual sin is totally fine and OK.

Pax Imperialis says:

Heredity science, the precursor to evolutionary science, originated from monastic Christian science. Christianity is not counter to evolutionary theory and much of the Bible is inline with hereditary principles. So how did some parts of American Christianity come to “refuse to countenance the idea of evolution?”

Kunning Drueger says:

The Orthodox Discord is staunchly anti-evolution. Lutheran Twitter is staunchly anti-evolution. Baptist Twitter is staunchly anti-evolution. While there are bluepill elements in these communities, they are often shouted down and mocked. Respectfully, I think you need to look closer at this topic from the Christian point of view. There are insurgent factions following Old Type Christianity in many if not most Monotheist faiths, but their “software” still classifies “Darwinism” as an external attack on the Bible, the Faith, and/or God because, in the times of their grandfathers, it was.

I’ve been explicit about my perspective that the WQ is the most important Q, that all else is secondary to it. My missionary/scientific work off this blog has left me with the impression that many of our natural allies have t least one glaring inadequacy in their memeplex regarding entryists/enemy shills. It’s always at least the WQ, and for Christians it’s denial of EvoPsych, while for the “less than faithful” it’s denial immaterial battlefield importance.

jim says:

> The Orthodox Discord is staunchly anti-evolution. Lutheran Twitter is staunchly anti-evolution. Baptist Twitter is staunchly anti-evolution. While there are bluepill elements in these communities, they are often shouted down and mocked.

Well I am reporting from Gab, where I was instapurged from the Orthodox Gab group by an obvious demon worshiping enemy entryist who responded to the short affirmation with outrage and scorn. Possibly our experience has been different. Upon researching him, I find he has no significant position in the Church, yet is strangely able to work full time for it, suggesting that someone else, not Church affiliated, is paying him to work full time for the Orthodox Church.

I suspect you may be seeing a fake consensus, a noisy minority of enemy entryists that continually post material that takes for granted that their unpopular hostile enemy position is accepted by all true believers, much as Troofers take for granted that everyone agrees that trade tower building seven fell straight down like demolition with no external terrorist damage, that there was no commercial airliner sized and shaped entrance hole in the Pentagon, and so on and so forth. That is what I am seeing on Gab, but I am not on the Orthodox Discord, so I do not know what you are seeing. In the Christian groups on Gab I see an avalanche of confidently authoritative consensus, by people who cannot pass the short affirmation, people who radically deviate from two millennia of past Christian consensus. And in one case looks as if funded by a power hostile to faith.

You say that where you are you see something different. Where I am, that is what I see. And because what I see can fool people, is intended to fool people, I suggest you look a bit more carefully. If looking more carefully does not make you suspicious, does not make you suspect well funded enemy entryists funded by those who worship demons, who hate us and intend to physically destroy us, link me in.

i says:

I think being Prose the narrative about the Garden of Eden is meant to be taken literally:
https://apologeticspress.org/systematically-understanding-the-bible-better-part-2-5385/

https://archive.ph/qKi3a

This same style of Prose applies to all historical accounts in the Bible starting with Genesis 2:4

As well as describing real rivers like the Euphrates.

So Adam and Eve must be believed to be real people. And that is consistent with Paul’s saying that as Adam as the First Man brought Death so Jesus the 2nd Adam brought life. (1 Corinthians 15:45-49).

Red says:

Genetic analysis already proved that the first Eve is much older than the first Adam. The the spiritual message of Genesis is true but the literal meaning less so.

The timeline stuff is even more off. The young earth theory of like 5,000 years based on the decent chronology doesn’t even match up with the 14,000 year ago Younger Dryas when the flood happened. You don’t even need evolution to destroy the literal interpretation of Genesis.

Mohandians believe every word of the Koran is literally true, christian never did until heretical sects started pushing it to for use in holiness spirals in the 16th centuries and they seemed to have been inspired by the Mohandians.

i says:

@Red

Genesis being poetry before Genesis 2:4. Allows long timelines. And accommodates Old Earth Creationism.

There is less flexibility in regards to the Garden of Eden story however afterwards.

Fidelis says:

Noah brought with him his sons, *and his son’s wives*. So it would be consistent that we are descendants of Noah who was further along the family tree, and descendants of the wives of Noah’s sons, that would be closer to Eve along the tree.

alf says:

Roosh, whom few can accuse of being blue pilled, is a staunch anti-evolutionary.

Red says:

Explaining woman’s behavior without evolution is pretty well impossible. The decent of the animals and man barley matters to me, but it’s key to understand women.

alf says:

It’s funny how we keep coming back to that.

Aidan says:

Roosh cucked out hard on the WQ when he converted

alf says:

Really? What makes you say that.

Or let me put it this way: assuming you refer to him canceling his game history, is Roosh cucking on the WQ a matter of his personal failing or symptomatic of orthodox Christian failing? Because it seems to me Roosh is pretty hardcore about his orthodox faith.

Yul Bornhold says:

Before, you said that Roosh never internalized the redpill. He always felt like a dancing monkey, going through an arcane ceremony he did not understand to get results he did understand.

jim says:

“Roosh never internalized the redpill. He always felt like a dancing monkey, going through an arcane ceremony he did not understand to get results he did understand.”

I had a huge advantage over Roosh, in that the redpill was always inside me and natural to me, even back when I lacked conscious comprehension of it and did rather badly with women because my conscious mind and false education kept grabbing the brakes. And when I came to consciously understand it, seemed right and natural, and when I reverted to Christianity, seemed transparently obvious that it was right and the will of God, written both in nature and in the Old Testament, that the blue pill and purple pill were, like gay and trannyism, just disgusting.

Dancing the alpha dance, the pimp monkey dance, that is a dancing monkey. I am not naturally all that alpha, though my monsters inside are alpha enough. But, understanding women, that came naturally. And understanding that women do not understand women, that I always knew. It was in the air I breathed as a child. Everyone knew that, back then.

Aidan says:

He posted a bunch of stuff on Twitter along the lines of “women only do bad things because men make them”

Adam says:

I know of one friend who had a midlife crisis like this, found out his wife was molested/raped as a youth (never pressed charges of course), more or less found out she was a whore and his response was to go right into the Lutheran seminary. Full on trad-cuck. “There is no such thing as an alpha male” he said to me after I sent him a link to Rollos blog.

Roosh and my friend are both fooling themselves, as their position on women is untenable and they both fully know better. Choosing to view women as they do grants one the illusion of control, as if you and you alone are fully and entirely in control of your life. It is a product of self-obsession.

The reality being they dare not commit thought crimes, they dare not look too deeply at themselves, they dare not confront their own mortality. They serve a master that hates them and wants them dead, and in return they are allowed the warm comfortable embrace of a lie.

Roosh is a con-artist and so is my (former) friend.

jim says:

> found out his wife was molested/raped as a youth (never pressed charges of course),

Of course. That is the problem with law that makes the women the victim and complainant, makes her consent the issue, rather than the man who is the rightful owner of her sexual, reproductive, and domestic services.

Women never complain about the incidents they are supposed to complain about. Whenever they complain, it is always about things that do not correspond to what we want them to complain about. All rape charges are fake and gay, not because women are never raped, they are frequently raped, but because they seldom complain of those incidents. They complain about failure to rape, not rape.

jim says:

Well I accuse him of being blue pilled:

August 2020: The three magic words

“Civilization is collapsing, the revolutionary political crisis is approaching, but, worse than that Heartiste has stopped posting on game, and Roosh has turned tradcuck”

alf says:

I remember. I guess I’m leading in to the next question: Jim, in what context do you hope to see your writings remembered in generations to come?

I ask that not because I want to shoehorn your work, but because I sense the need for some clarification. You have made it clear you are not a prophet. Yet you must also have come to realize that the effects of your writing are taking on a life of their own.

On the WQ, all you write is very logical, and indeed it is said all men inherently know that which you write of. But as we see time and time again, if civilisation is poisoned, if men do not speak of these matters in plain language, this kind of knowledge is lost. And lost it truly is — there is no single Christian denomination that speaks as clearly of the woman question as you do. Insofar they do, they are faint echoes of what you say. But near without exception, even in churches that openly oppose globohomo, they do not.

Since the WQ is essential for reproduction, and since the future belongs to those who show up, follows that your ideas might be here to stay for a long time.

Hence, circling back to my original question. Is it somewhat accurate to say that your work is a continuation of, say, Paul, Augustine and Luther?

jim says:

I am an engineer, and I normally write wearing my engineering hat.

And yet I am, in substantial part, doing a prophet’s job.

An engineer can speak of optimization, but what is he optimizing? It is necessary to speak of what is right and good.

It is the will of Gnon that those obedient to his commandments shall fill the stars and subdue them.

The eighteenth century anglosphere laws on sex, family, and reproduction were right and good. Our current laws are wrong. Trannyism is just the latest moral inversion, but the Victorian idea that women, being naturally virtuous and naturally finding sex distasteful, do not need to be constrained, was the beginning of it all. In pretending all women were virtuous women, were ladies, even if it was obvious, as with Slut Queen Caroline and Florence Nightingale, that they were not, that was a step comparably evil, wicked, and destructive to pretending that trannies are whatever sex they claim to be this morning.

State, church, society, and family needs to back up, support, and enforce, male mate guarding. A male can only be unchaste in that he undermines mate guarding enforced by State, church, society, and family, while a female is unchaste in evading or resisting it.

The victorian story about women has a superficial plausibility in that men pursue and women flee. But women are apt to travel very long distances and go to considerable effort and expense to find places where the right men are apt to pursue them, and are apt to then flee rather slowly.

It is suboptimal for female reproductive success to consent to sex. A more efficient solution is to give the right man the opportunity to coerce her. Since by coercing her, he passes a shit test, and by getting away with coercing her, he demonstrates capability to protect an investment in her, and therefore has incentives that are good for her individually and good for family and society. Hence the pattern of women withholding consent, while continually giving one the opportunity coerce them. Unfortunately the right man for her reproductive success may well be a very wrong man for the reproductive success of the society. (Sexy sons model, that it is optimal for a woman to bang a man who is able to bang far too many women to mate guard them, or to invest in them or their children – particularly in an environment without long and severe winters.)

This results in female sexual consent being profoundly opaque, and most opaque to the woman herself, thus the contractual and symmetric model of marriage is unworkable. Sex is legal or illegal on retroactive female whims and on what is unknown and unknowable.

The sacrament was held to be performed by the man, “with this ring I thee wed”. The sacrament is not symmetric “I do”s

A corollary to the sexy sons model is that family, society, church, and state cannot afford to look after women who follow the sexy sons strategy. If she was banged by the man who is unwilling or unable to mate guard and look after her, it is rape because her father and guardian did not consent, and we kill him regardless of her opinion on the matter.

But suppose he is willing and able to mate guard, but her father and guardian did not consent. Well, lots of societies had the solution to that. If he is able to mate guard, and throws a big wedding party to demonstrate his willingness and capability to do so, dad is supposed to put up with it. (Assyrian rule: Abduction with no big wedding party, death penalty, abduction with a big wedding party, state and faith backs the husband)

A society that puts all power in the father then runs into the problem that dad’s interests are not always prosocial – he may be reluctant to lose his daughter. Assyria, in its recovery from Bronze Age decadence that destroyed so many other Bronze Age civilizations and nearly destroyed it (it had to retreat to its heartland, and many of its cities were destroyed) put an age limit on how long dad could keep daughter hanging around. Old Testament and early Christianity morally discourage dad from hanging on to daughter unreasonably long, and Old Testament law was mighty relaxed about marriage by abduction.

@jim,

This is a distillation of the red pill that deserves to be promoted to a post.

Pax Imperialis says:

>The Orthodox Discord

What has been happening in the American Orthodox Church is a growing number of Christians who jumped ship from other failing Churches in search of something more authentic feeling. They are not culturally Orthodox. For them, religious stance on evolution is a big deal that they carried over from their previous churches. Selection bias at work.

The Orthodox Church has completely refused to touch on the subject and for many who were raised in the Church, the question isn’t pertinent. There is no official position (because there doesn’t have to be) unlike the Catholic Church which made several Papal declarations or whatever those Papists get up to idk I’m not a Catholic.

Red says:

Jim nailed the evolution thing pretty well in my experience. I have families that are young earth creationists and they explicitly ignore the curse of eve. Though part of their reaction was evolution being used as a club against Christians. But then again it’s hard to explain women’s behavior without evolutionary sociology which gives them a double reason to ignore it.

Adam says:

I am in the same boat and I think the reaction comes from evolution being pushed along side atheism at least in the 80s and 90s. Obviously St. Darwin was Christian but the cathedral pushed it all the same. Right along side every flaming color of the faggot rainbow.

SJ says:

Having spoken in depth with a great many of the blue pilled in an attempt to guide them to the red pill I would say that the prog doesn’t believe that it is possible for a woman to sin. In fact the only sin is lack of consent. When women consent readily to be a booty call for Jeremy Meeks it is explained that he is tricking the woman. She surely isn’t actually consenting. Since women begin finding Jeremy Meeks for their booty call immediately after puberty it is easier to explain for the prog as the girl in question is under the age of “consent”. Even if she is not under the age of consent, though, the prog will explain to you that the bad man tricked the woman.

For example one of Harvey Weinsteins booty calls discovered that she was being raped for a year after her new fiance explained to her that Weinstein was actually raping her (bad man tricked her) because he was not asking for consent. Bad man tricked her is the go to for explaining how woman’s consent goes wrong.

Imho once morality shifts from God to man, from divine law discovered through results to man made consent, women now become god. At least the god of sex as women’s consent is what now grants moral goodness to the act of sex, just so long as bad man doesn’t trick her of course. I believe this is the source of the pussy pedestal.

The Cominator says:

The cult of purity spiraled consent is so fucking weird, anyones who had sex more than 3 times in their life knows that women HATE being asked by guys if they can go further and sex ussually “just happens” (though occasionally theyll either aggressively initiate or say something along the lines of “shutup and fuck me”). If women are tricked its not by guys its by themselves.

I could see maybe some lucky bastard who was happily married to some school days sweetheart believing in that crap but why the hell does anyone else?

Adam says:

>I could see maybe some lucky bastard who was happily married to some school days sweetheart believing in that crap but why the hell does anyone else?

Because they are little bitches that worship their mommy, and they have never experienced a lustful woman.

Alphas are winning a game they cannot, so they conclude that alphas are the problem, and females validate their conclusion when they cry on the betas shoulder.

Red says:

Alphas don’t do their followers right either these days. I’ve hung out with a few natural alphas who never did hand off the extra girls that he easily picked up off to his allies. Instead he fucked one girl and the other girls where just frustrated. Men instinctively wing men with Alpha’s waiting for this to happen because that’s exactly how it happened for millions of years and women are quite willing to accept that arrangement.

Your Uncle Bob says:

Red’s take gets at what bothered me about Andrew Tate, but I couldn’t put my finger on. Dude could have built a posse, a gym/dojo, or even a red-pilled church if he’d taken a different enough tack. Instead he built a rotating harem for himself and a multi-level marketing subscription based “academy” for his followers.

And he doesn’t even get to keep the women in his harem apparently, so what’s he get for all his efforts really?

Western Taliban says:

You hung out with these ‘alphas’ with the expectation that they’d help you with that, but you never said anything, discussed things or made it clear in any way? Come on bro, you sound like a woman, it’s literally the “I’m hungry” cliche, except it seems you never even got to say “I’m hungry” either.

The ‘alpha’ is living in the 21th century, he does not know what you expect and does not dare expect anything beyond himself because it is government persecuted and journalist harried to social death. What you’re expecting him to do by magic understanding would land him in prison as some grooming-rape-misogyny charge if not careful.

You obviously need to be ride and die, and you have to be clear about you being ride and die with him, openly, explicitly and the agreement has to be beyond clear. Otherwise you’re just a needy whiny entitled bitch asking for something never earned.

By his own admission, Andrew Tate forces men to be ride and die with him for him to consider them friends, and if you were friends with Andrew Tate you would not be allowed to be fat and worthless, you’d be inducted into certain minimal standards and I guess you’d be drowning in pussy as he seems to be. Well, Andrew Tate is more pimp than ‘alpha’ I think, but it’s an example of this.

The ‘alpha’ might not see you as a real friend and there seems to be no reason for it either. In fact your behavior is repulsive from my own viewpoint, the ‘alpha’ might directly detest the implication and does not even care thinking about it.

Red says:

@Western Taliban

I provided him support in opening up the set as it seemed natural to me, hell I chopped down another one of his wingmen who tried to under cut him. When he’d taken the best girl as his prize he failed to assist the men helping him in picking up the left overs. This sort of shit doesn’t need to be communicated explicitly, we naturally know to do it because we fucking evolved to do it. Go observe how an alpha chimp and his allies operate and you’ll have a better idea of how old this behavior is.

>The ‘alpha’ is living in the 21th century, he does not know what you expect and does not dare expect anything beyond himself because it is government persecuted and journalist harried to social death. What you’re expecting him to do by magic understanding would land him in prison as some grooming-rape-misogyny charge if not careful.

Blow it out your ass, faggot. We have natural instincts as men especially when it comes to dealing with woman. The reason the alpha’s I hung out failed to deliver their part of the implicit arrangement is unclear. Even alpha’s suffer when they lose their crew and most of these guys eventually lose their crews if they don’t pass girls off.

jim says:

The reason is massive propaganda against alphas doing what alphas do. Media show only very evil alphas doing it, and women reacting very badly to alphas doing it.

alf says:

There is only one functional arrangement and that is when a group of men fairly divides the women, and respects that division. Such an arrangement can last a lifetime. All the others eventually fall apart. Which is why 95% of today’s mixed sex friend groups fall apart.

That’s why I also agree that Andrew Tate and all the other alpha chad pussyslayers are kind of fake and gay. Well it’s not that they’re fake per se: their advice on women is generally sound. It’s just that them getting laid and bragging about it is not as important as they make it out to be. The important part is dividing the women, making sure your followers get to keep a woman they’re happy with.

Kunning Druegger says:

You are wrong, Red. It *does* need to be communicated explicitly. Consider your examples: our ancestors, and chimps. Both are free from the immense crush of cultural noise that has been deployed precisely to divorce the modern occidental man from his fellows, his instincts, and his spiritual sense of self.

We must put the quiet part forward loudly. We must say that which goes without being said. We are fools if we expect our own level of awareness to transmit osmotically as it seemed to do in the recent past.

I’m not taking a side in this tet a tet. WT is hella based and his contributions are excellent, but he carries a rather sharp edge, which reminds me of this other nigga I know named Red, lol. Go ahead and punch each other out if you need to, but he over explained what you implied: the alpha didn’t do what Jimian Analysis says the alpha should do. I cannot see this as a single point failure, indeed, that only happens in movies. All failures are causal chains.

We must spell it out, hammer it excessively, and this sucks because it should be as simple as Monkey See, Monkeys Do. Instead, monkey must explain and demonstrate repeatedly for minimal uptake to occur at all. Tate had an incredible opportunity, and he pissed away his first chance at self-enrichment. I think he will get a second opportunity, because the Cathedral almost always tries to convert heretics into priests, but they have to publicly renounce their “sin” and embrace “Enlightenment.” Let’s see what he does if he survives The Gulag.

jim says:

> Consider your examples: our ancestors, and chimps. Both are free from the immense crush of cultural noise that has been deployed precisely to divorce the modern occidental man from his fellows, his instincts, and his spiritual sense of self.

Our instincts for successful reproduction are right there, ready to roll, I have felt them, strongly, compellingly, all my life. But my misinformed blue pilled rational understanding inhibited me from acting out of instinct, everyone is inhibited from acting out the instincts that lead to successful reproduction. In my case, my instincts were sometimes so powerful as to overwhelm my misinformed rational mind and compel me to act wisely and constructively, when my misinformed rational mind was trying to act foolishly and self destructively.

The trouble is that if the alpha does that which is right and natural, assigns the excess fruits of conquest to his followers, he has watched all his life media showing him that that is the worst thing in the world and women will react very badly to it. In fact women love it. All their lives they are looking to be captured by a strong tribe, and not finding one anywhere.

Western Taliban says:

Go observe how an alpha chimp and his allies operate and you’ll have a better idea of how old this behavior is.

You should follow your own advice because you’re clearly very confused here, you have no idea how a chimp behaves at all. Watch a documentary about them, it is nothing like you seem to believe.

And the fact that you are willingly comparing yourself with a chimp to have expectations and regulate your behavior is to say the least hilarious, you’re a human after all, and if you should have expectations and regulate your behavior according to something you should look at your own ancestors, not a bunch of chimps.

Oaths were made for a reason, contracts were made for a reason, an entire social structure and religion gave backing and precedence to tempered expectations. Men said what they thought, openly, brazenly, honestly, and reached agreement so, and this was with centuries of formal living religions working in their societies as base agreements. They still went as far as straight up walk to some other man to essentially buy his daughter.

You want some random guy, to whom you seem to have no deep relation, to magically infer some sort of behavior, that again, is basically illegal in modern society. And you offer no honesty for it, you just sit back and expect things to work out, when it doesn’t you whine like a scorned woman telling us that “your ‘alpha’ just doesn’t get you”. It does not look flattering at all and it’s not going to work.

At the very least you could have bothered talking to him, nigger, are you a human that can vocalize or you just write on the internet because you are a mute IRL?

Red says:

You are wrong, Red. It *does* need to be communicated explicitly. Consider your examples: our ancestors, and chimps. Both are free from the immense crush of cultural noise that has been deployed precisely to divorce the modern occidental man from his fellows, his instincts, and his spiritual sense of self.

We must put the quiet part forward loudly. We must say that which goes without being said. We are fools if we expect our own level of awareness to transmit osmotically as it seemed to do in the recent past.

No it doesn’t. Picking up and assigning women predates speech. Almost the entire mating dance is innately printed in our genes. I did not know why I behaving with this alpha in supporting him with opening the set since from a logical perspective it made more sense to undercut him and try to poach the girls for myself, but it felt right and natural so I ran with it. When he failed to deliver I was left angry and I didn’t know why. I understand why now, but not back then.

Natural alphas should transform their groups into bunds by the simple practice of handing their extra pulls off when the group is working together. Instead they hog them and then wonder why their friends have no loyalty to them.

If I actually explained that shit to a normie they wouldn’t fucking understand it and would react in horror because of muh female choice, but successful alpha’s like rockstars naturally hand of some of their women to their crews. This is normal and natural.

Alpha’s don’t act like leaders anymore assisting the men who are assisting them, instead they hog the women for themselves leading to dysfunction for everyone.

Does this mean we need to punish alphas? No. We need socialized pussy through ownership of women. But I understand why people are pissed off at the modern alpha, AKA leader’s behavior.

Red says:

@Western Faggot

You want some random guy, to whom you seem to have no deep relation, to magically infer some sort of behavior, that again, is basically illegal in modern society. And you offer no honesty for it, you just sit back and expect things to work out, when it doesn’t you whine like a scorned woman telling us that “your ‘alpha’ just doesn’t get you”. It does not look flattering at all and it’s not going to work.

One of men I’m describing I’ve known since we were 11. I stopped going out to bars with him to do pickup because it always had the same result. We still get together occasionally, but now he’s gotten fat, his crew no longer hangs out with him, and his days of pulling pussy is over. I like the guy, but it was completely worthless to try to pickup girls with him because he failed to live up to his side of the group mating dance.

How the fuck is illegal to say a women, hey my bro over there is pretty fucking awesome, why don’t you go sit next to him? Women loved to be commanded.

I was upset about it at the time, but I couldn’t explain why. Today I can. It’s implicit with hanging out with that sort of crew that the alpha will assign the extra women he pulls when opening the set to his wingmen.

We’ve got dysfunction with betas and we’ve got dysfunction with alphas who should be leading men and building bunds.

Kunning Druegger says:

I don’t think instincts are enough in enough cases to make baseline assumptions that “he/we/they should know better.” Much of what Jim says in quite obvious and simple in retrospect, but I cannot imagine figuring it out without some guidance and a ton of deprogramming.

Female liberation + desensitization&&normalization have done a number on the hearts, minds, and bodies of occidental men. Speaking succinctly and assuming everyone “gets it” is a recipe for disaster. Add to the mix the crowd of snake oil salesmen and false prophets, and it is easy to see why alphas don’t build bunds, they build brands, betas don’t join/support packs, the recede into a materialist identity that cushions the pain of inceldom.

Women will do pretty much anything they are told to do. They literally fuck horses for pocket cash. Any alpha who is “afraid to order a woman around” is not an alpha. I think it is more likely that alphas are not bund-building out of an ignorance borne of evil efforts by our Adversaries. Tate thought the point was the Bugatti & mansion, he failed to realize that those were just expensive signals of Something More, and he is not alone in making this mistake.

Aidan says:

The way this works is that all of the girls will try to get attention from the alpha, and if he is screwing his male followers over, will keep them all focused on him. If he his helping his posse out, he will, through nonverbal mating dance cues, monopolize one woman’s attention, and deflect the attention of the other women onto his friends while building up their status. It is not that you do no work, it is that when he gets focused in conversation with his target, you follow his lead with your target, and when he leaves with her, you leave with your girl, and the mating dance goes surprisingly smoothly compared to running solo.

Adam says:

It is up to the alpha to put over his wingmen. The alpha leads the conversation in a way as to imply that the wingmen are also alphas, and that the group is tight, and the competition is close even if it isn’t. An alpha that chooses to serve only himself, or at the expense of his crew is not going to have a crew for long, not to mention it is unattractive to everyone other than anti-social people.

Adam says:

>That’s why I also agree that Andrew Tate and all the other alpha chad pussyslayers are kind of fake and gay. Well it’s not that they’re fake per se: their advice on women is generally sound. It’s just that them getting laid and bragging about it is not as important as they make it out to be.

They are celebrating victory after securing low hanging fruit. It’s disappointing considering the position they are in and the potential they have.

The Cominator says:

Tate drops redpills but he IS a grifter (he literally made his money by supervising his camgirls on what to say to rich Simps to get them to send them money… and then never ever meet them) and at least until his recent conversion don’t let his talk of wanting virgins fool you Tate is a pimp and he likes whores… most guys who like whores won’t admit it but believe me I’m not unique in this. Now maybe’s he is burned out on whores now (hence the conversion to Islam) or maybe he just wants to gain powerful Middle Eastern friends (I have trouble in believing his conversion is sincere).

A grifter and a pimp may drop redpills but I wouldn’t trust a grifter… his redpills are good but naive to expect more than that. For God’s sake don’t send him money. Musk is different because he scammed the Federal Government (and also provided real value to them).

i says:

Tate’s Father worked for the CIA:
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/QgAsl-ymnog

Adam says:

Longshot prediction- Tate will convert to progressivism and become the next MLK.

simplyconnected says:

In this particular case of demon worship, the jabs came from their tribe, so they trusted the jabs, and hoped to use them to gain status and bash their opponents’ heads with them.
I have extremely intelligent friends who got jabbed (even though they should’ve known better). They tend to be ones that are very enmeshed in the system (they simply trusted the same system that had always rewarded them in the past).

simplyconnected says:

they trusted the jabs, and hoped to use them to gain status and bash their opponents’ heads with them.

Imho efficacy or any such medical consideration was always irrelevant. Placebo would’ve been perfect to advance in their tribal battle.

jim says:

Exactly so. Any explanation of our enemy’s behavior which is not demonic and/or insane runs into the brick wall that any rational evil and self interested motive would be better served by a placebo.

Kunning Druegger says:

Holy moly, what an observation. I never thought of it, but if the Cathedral were really the evil masterminds with a central authoritative body, of course they would have made a saline shit with fancy voodoo script declaring magicks on the side a way to divide the sheep from the goats. Instead they tried to poison everyone.

simplyconnected says:

Sasha Latypova quite some time ago commented that if money had been the primary motivation, placebo would’ve made them more money (no cost, higher uptake).
In fact, placebo works for just about everything (except genociding, of course). Imo if they hadn’t been so eager to start with the killing, giving out placebo at first would’ve allowed them to successfully roll out vaxpasses, which likely would be entrenched by now: close the door of the jail cell first and only then start the killing. It could be that it was centrally planned and executed, but miscalculated (these are the same people that talk of AI replacing most jobs and not needing most people, which afaik is evil nonsense).

jim says:

> giving out placebo at first would’ve allowed them to successfully roll out vaxpasses, which likely would be entrenched by now: close the door of the jail cell first and only then start the killing.

Yes, that would be the sane way of implementing whatever program they had in mind. Including killing everyone.

If you don’t have a CEO, if you are running on consensus, consensus tends to fall into the hands of the evil and insane. So we should assume evil and madness, assume demonic evil, not rationally self interested evil.

It is unlikely to be an accurate assumption for individuals, but is often a good assumption for groups of individuals.

simplyconnected says:

consensus tends to fall into the hands of the evil and insane

Just for entertainment, assuming that Silent weapons for quiet wars is fanfiction, let me quote one paragraph that describes an “international elite meeting in 1954” [p.7]:

Although the so-called “moral issues” were raised, in view of the law of natural selection it was agreed that a nation or world of people who will not use their intelligence are no better than animals who do not have intelligence. Such people are beasts of burden and steaks on the table by choice and consent.

That seems like a description of a group consensus falling into the hands of the evil and insane.

BobtheBuilder says:

I remember there was a theory bouncing around the chans in early 2021 that the vaxx was not for Covid but for a superplague, which would be released a few months after the vaxx rollout to cull the noncompliant. Probably what a “rational” superevil would do, but GAE is not rational.

NotAProgressiveNotAReactionary says:

And the medical profession piously averts its eyes, revealing that they know what they deny knowing. While you were supposed to turn your life upside down because of a fairly normal flu season, you are not supposed to notice famous athletes dropping dead. The total death rate over all age groups is not hugely higher, in the sense that most people who die are dying of old age, rather than jab, but the death rate among working age people is hugely higher, in the sense that it is normally very low. It is hugely higher than its normal very low rate. Most young people who die are dying of the jab.

I’m calling bullshit on the reactionary claim that the elite/cathedral/whatever are purposely trying to kill off the population with the vax.

Obviously, there’s a death rate associated with the covid vaccines. Covid vaccines kill a percentage of people just like cars kill a percentage of people. Do we say “Oh, the elite want you to drive cars because they’re trying to kill you and don’t you know cars kill 40k people per year?” That’s what this argument boils down to so we can’t just say covid vaccines kill people.

The Covid vaccines kill far less than 1% of people who took them. We don’t know if it’s 1% of 1% or half of 1%, but it’s less than 1%. It’s not 10%, it’s not 50%. It’s not 100%. This is not the Black Death. This is not the black plague. This is not mass human sacrifice.

The hysteria about covid was obviously fake and engineered. And likewise, the hysteria about the vaccines was also fake and engineered. Covid is not dangerous. It is the common cold and the vaccines are not dangerous. They aren’t regular vaccines because they are genetic modification, but they’re not making people drop dead on the spot.

The vaccine conspiracies far predate covid. They’re not entirely without basis. Yes, people died due to vaccines and vaccines have side effects. All medical treatments have risk associated with them.

The extreme progressive position that covid vaccine literally saved humanity from the evil covid virus or the covid virus was literally going to kill everybody if we didn’t have the vaccine is obviously stupid. But the extreme reactionary position that the vaccines are literally going to kill every single person who took it is equally stupid. There’s no evidence for that.

The elite don’t want to kill everybody who took the vaccine. That’s not real. The vaccine was engineered not to kill people and engineered to kill covid. Did they do a good job? Obviously, not. mRNA is new technology, it was rushed and it’s a shitty vaccine.

jim says:

> I’m calling bullshit on the reactionary claim that the elite/cathedral/whatever are purposely trying to kill off the population with the vax.

By the time the jab was miraculously developed in double quick time, we already knew that the same people had developed the virus as developed the jab, and obviously the people who developed the virus were trying to kill us.

The jab is not necessarily designed to kill you, that could be an accident, but it is designed to destroy your capability to reproduce, and if you do reproduce, your children’s capability to reproduce, is designed to cause miscarriage, and to modify dna to ensure that your female descendants also miscarry. It was designed by people who obviously do not wish us well. They may not have intended to kill us with the jab, but they obviously were not much worried if it did.

“Hey here is a radical new technology. Inject it into your body. We tested it on eight mice, and they did not die immediately.”

> But the extreme reactionary position that the vaccines are literally going to kill every single person who took it is equally stupid. There’s no evidence for that.

Indeed there is no evidence for that, no evidence that a single shot is a death sentence, but there is plenty of evidence of evil and malicious intent, the people who created the jab would very much like it if a single shot was a death sentence, and there is plenty of evidence that if someone endlessly boosts, his immune system is going to become completely shot, with the result that he dies of cancer similar to the cancers of aids, or dies of permacovid and that the people pushing forever boosting knew that.

However they probably did not intend a single shot to be a death sentence. Rather they intended a single shot to render your grandchildren sterile. But if they did not intend it to be a death sentence, they will nonetheless be happy if it is a death sentence.

> but they’re not making people drop dead on the spot.

Some people, quite a lot of people, are dropping dead on the spot. During the early vaccine rollout, the ambulances were screaming continually. There are a substantial number of immediate bad reactions, typically within a few days of the vaccine, and a much larger number of long term bad reactions. The first vaccine rollouts were to old people, and no one much notices when the old people’s home suddenly has a lot of vacancies, but when they rolled out to younger people the emergency rooms were flooded and overwhelmed with young people having heart attacks and strokes, something almost completely unknown before the rollout.

The spokescritters, when reports emerged of emergency rooms flooded and overwhelmed with young person heart attacks, said “mild myocarditis, mild mild myocarditis, mild mild mild myocarditis, that is how you know it good for you” There is no such thing as “mild” myocarditis. It get a different name if it is actually mild. If you have clinical myocarditis, you are likely to die, immediately or eventually. That is the definition of myocarditis. If it is not seriously life threatening, has a different name.

By and large, when a young person keels over in the public eye, a very large proportion of the time he never gets a diagnosis, just drops dead. He does not have a “mild” heart attack. Just “died suddenly”. It is likely that the flooded emergency rooms during early jab rollout represented morgues that were also flooded.

FrankNorman says:

I’m going to throw this up in the air as a clay pigeon here:

Dead people do not pay huge medical bills, and neither do healthy people.
So what would you say to:
“They don’t want to outright kill you, they want to make you chronically sick so they can take all your money for medical treatments”
?

Conversely – if they are sickos who want to make normal people suffer – well, if you die that’s that, they can do no more to you. It’s the same reason that shitlibs would rather keep people alive in prison for decades rather than give them the death penalty.

jim says:

That is a plausible argument from rational evil.

Kunning Drueger says:

I think this is an unwitting shill, a midwit carrying GAE water because every reasonable person does. There’s a payload here, but it’s easy to spot (“lol no one reasonable believes in conspiracy theories” “both sides are crazy, best to stay in the middle with the reasonable people, like me”). More interestingly, we get a taste for where the “consensus” is headed: COVID was real, but it’s just the flu [our position from a year ago], the vaccine is ineffective, not deadly [we know this is false], and our lying eyes are lying, as all reasonable people know that shots from the government don’t kill people instantaneously, therefore shots from the government kill nobody ever.

His car allusion is just really dumb, a really weak attempt at an apples and aardvarks comparison, and the repetition has the feel of a script seed crystal with OP playing “madlib and extend.” If he’s a shill, we’ve dropped off the radar. If he’s someone sent here by a share or an argument citation, he’ll flee in panic soon enough. But if he’s got the stomach, we should do some more testing on this lab rat before he flees or expires.

Anyone with shill tests, see what Mr. Norbal “Norm” N. Normalsen has to say regarding your experimental tests.

Red says:

My bet is it’s a new shill line. But we’ll see. I hope he responds.

Doom says:

>purposely trying to kill off
Dead people are unproductive.

Disable, with a chance of death.

Red says:

The vaccine conspiracies far predate covid. They’re not entirely without basis. Yes, people died due to vaccines and vaccines have side effects. All medical treatments have risk associated with them.

Parents where unable to get their babies vaxed during the COVID. The rate of SIDs dropped to the lowest level in history. Yet no one is ever warned that pumping you baby full of vaccines will causes SIDs. I very much doubt any parent would vaccinate their babies if they knew the real risk level.

The elite don’t want to kill everybody who took the vaccine. That’s not real. The vaccine was engineered not to kill people and engineered to kill covid. Did they do a good job? Obviously, not. mRNA is new technology, it was rushed and it’s a shitty vaccine.

Why did they prevent less harmful vaccines? The J&J and AstraZeneca were less dangerous than the mRNA shots, yet they sidelined both in favor of the mRNA ones. Both vaccines used existing tech that was well proven. There was no good reason to jab 2 billion people with the mRNA vaxes.

jim says:

> Why did they prevent less harmful vaccines? The J&J and AstraZeneca were less dangerous than the mRNA shots, yet they sidelined both in favor of the mRNA ones. Both vaccines used existing tech that was well proven. There was no good reason to jab 2 billion people with the mRNA vaxes.

This disproves all arguments based on rational self interested evil or sheer incompetence. Tney just hate everyone, and want to destroy everyone, even at considerable cost to themselves. They hate life itself and the world itself.

Consider PETA. “People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals”. They will kill any animal they can get their hands on, and the cuter the animal, the more enraged they are by its existence. They rationalize the desire to destroy cute animals by arguing that if an animal has any contact with humans, this will cause it to suffer forever, and it therefore has to be humanely destroyed, except that if they get their hands on an animal, there is nothing humane about the way they destroy it, especially if it is a cute animal. They don’t go out of their way to torture animals, kill them fairly quickly and efficiently, but they don’t mind the animal suffering a fair bit of pain and terror as they dispatch it.

When I kill an animal for food, it knows it also, but the difference is that I kill for food, or to protect my crops or my stores. They kill for hatred.

> They hate life itself and the world itself.

The gaia worshippers, the LGBTQWERTY tranny worshippers and the COVID demon worshippers all converge on this one point.

Mister Grumpus says:

I know that many in the rank-and-file left see humanity as a failed or failing species.

Therefore probably others, towards the top of the left, who think humanity should be a failed species.

someDude says:

Jim, how do you know PETA don’t mind the animal suffering a fait bit of pain and terror as they dispatch it? What’s the evidence, anecdotal or otherwise?

someDude says:

Never mind, Jim, A simple internet search brought all the cases to me. You stand vindicated. Very lazy on my part.

The India-made vaccine Covaxin was a traditional vaccine that the WHO along with Globohomo media did its best to discredit and prevent adoption back in 2021 by WHO dragging its feet over approval. I believe I had linked news sources here. Which fits in with your theory.

https://archive.ph/EExSZ

India also didn’t cave in to Pfizer at around the same time. So there was “vaccine nationalism” in India, but it accidentally worked out for India.

NotAProgressiveNotAReactionary says:

The J&J and AstraZeneca were less dangerous than the mRNA shots, yet they sidelined both in favor of the mRNA ones.

There’s no evidence for that. All the Covid vaccines appear to have a <1% mortality rate. I won’t pretend to know why certain vaccines were pushed over others just like I won’t pretend to know whey certain artificial sweeteners are pushed over others in the beverage industry.

Red says:

First he claims the mRNA is shitty untested new tech that caused the vaccine to fail then claims the well tested and widely used viral vector vaccines where exactly the same as the mRNA vaccines.

Boys we have a new shill line being tested.

>All the Covid vaccines appear to have a <1% mortality rate.

Bullshit. We've never seen the real mortality rate of any of these vaccines. Excess death is now higher than it was at the height of Delta Covid:

https://twitter.com/Jack_your_body/status/1614356549497163782?cxt=HHwWjMDUmdCurOcsAAAA

pinochet's ghost says:

“The Covid vaccines kill far less than 1% of people who took them. We don’t know if it’s 1% of 1% or half of 1%, but it’s less than 1%. It’s not 10%, it’s not 50%. It’s not 100%. This is not the Black Death. This is not the black plague. This is not mass human sacrifice. ”

Covid also kills less than 1% of people. They wanted everyone to take the vaccines. Looks indeed like a dumb attempt to kill everyone with a virus followed by a dumb attempt to kill everyone with a medication (not a vaccine as traditionally understood).

What I remember is the Cathedral shouting intense skepticism of covid “vaccines” until it became clear that they were not very effective and caused side effects that would lead to any other medicine being banned, then the Cathedral started demanding mandatory injection of people who were not at risk from covid.

A more normal medicine would be pulled after one reported death, regardless whether it can be rigorously casually linked to the medicine.

Guy says:

Sounds more like the Cathedral adjacent who were spreading vaccine skepticism were not yet read in on the correct line. They assumed since Orange Man was positive towards the vax it was their job to be antivax, or at least anti trump vax. As the carrots and sticks were handed out, and proclamations we’re made from high priests the skepticism quickly went away.

pinochet's ghost says:

They feared that the vaccines might actually stop covid.

jim says:

Not being on the inside and knowing that they would not.

Pax Imperialis says:

On this most holy of regime holidays, let it be re-announced that MLK was a communist, CPUSA/Soviet asset, plagiarist, whoremonger, adulterer, man who died with a public disapproval rating of 75 percent, heretic, and lastly arguably worst crime of them all an enjoyer and supporter of Star Trek.

Hesiod says:

Is it possible to ironically enjoy Star Trek for Shatner’s hammy acting and remain within the good graces of the NRx community? Askin’ for a friend named Kirok:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isoSITS61ic

Redbible says:

I’d say that enjoying some parts or pieces of Star Trek is fine, for the reason that enjoying some parts or pieces of propaganda is fine, provided that one doesn’t like the propaganda itself.

On the other hand, lamenting that “thing would be better if we just went back to the good ol’ days of classic Star Trek” is rather far from NRx…

Jehu says:

Wanting to get back to 80s levels of insanity is a gateway drug for further reaction. It’s also the reason Trump won despite insufficient fraud in 2016. If you make sincere attempts to get back to the 80s, you’ll find you need to keep going back further and further. DeSantis is trying to do this with New College right now—trying to turn it into something like Hillsdale. I don’t think his minions can do it—I don’t think they’re hardcore enough to do what needs done, which will strike a lot of normies as grossly unfair—but I hope to be proven wrong.

Anonymous Fake says:

Trump University failed hard. Making your own college doesn’t work because the left’s authority comes not directly from colleges, but from the college rankings. Even the Ivy League isn’t completely untouchable (think lawsuits against Asian discrimination), but USNWR is. It’s the heart of the Cathedral.

Somehow it isn’t detected as libel, when someone doesn’t attack you, but cleverly and mysteriously ranks everyone else above you. It’s the kind of midwit game that lawyers won’t touch because they won’t go after their own kind of person.

Jehu says:

New College isn’t really new, it’s been around as long as I can remember, it just has declining enrollment.

One encouraging development I’ve seen recently is there are apparently now independent testing providers for some fields, especially coding and software development that major employers (like mine) are starting to use. If these get more traction, it may further dilute the value of degrees.

Guy says:

The Wrath of Khan is a great submarine movie

Pax Imperialis says:

I’m blasé about Star Trek the fantasy. I’m contemptuous of Star Trek the identity. Everyone has an imagination and everyone enjoys a good fantastical story. I would say it’s possible to unironically enjoy Star Trek and remain in good graces with Gnon so long as it’s not shaping one’s own core identity which is easier said than done.

Most people combine their enjoyment with their own identity which leads to support in real life. (e.g. people find identity in things like smoking) Something which you see often in Boomers with their Star Trek and progressivism, Xers in their Star Wars and obsession with supporting rebels (even though America is the Empire), and Millennials with their Harry Potter and academic progressivism.

So the question boils down to. ‘are you an ubermensch capable of keeping enjoyment separate from identity?’ Some are, most are not. The NRx community, if such a thing can be quantified, is probably more capable of keeping such things separate or is at least self aware otherwise one would not be here in the first place.

Red says:

The male relationship between Kirk, Spock, and Bones is refreshingly better than anything shown on TV since. That’s about it.

Jehu says:

I’m told that a lot of MLK’s speech content is considered the height of racism today—particularly the content of his character stuff. Since he’s a fellow racist now, I find I’m a bit more sympathetic to him than I used to be. He’s like 1980s level insanity, and lots of us miss the 80s and would like to return.

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Jehu says:

That is pretty funny, although one has to admit that levels of character in the black community were a lot better back in the early 60s than they are presently. Hell most blacks were born IN wedlock in those days. I’d be willing to bet that the fraction of blacks that got to effectively be Jimian patriarchs in the early 60s and late 50s was pretty decent.

Starman says:

@Pax Imperialis

“On this most holy of regime holidays, let it be re-announced that MLK was a communist, CPUSA/Soviet asset, plagiarist, whoremonger, adulterer, man who died with a public disapproval rating of 75 percent, heretic, and lastly arguably worst crime of them all an enjoyer and supporter of Star Trek.”

Praise be unto Marchin’ Looter Koon, for creating Boeing/Lockmart’s apefirmative action hire, Shaniqua. Who is unable to build ASAT missiles worth a damn, whose ass would be easily kicked by a militarized Starlink of a techlord.

Pax Imperialis says:

MLK didn’t exactly accomplish that. He was extremely unpopular during the last years of his life when he was advocating for affirmative action. Rather it’s in his death the progressive regime was able to turn him into an idol via mythological propaganda. Affirmative action became mainstream after his death and the following decades is when all the groundwork for Shaniqua was laid in place.

Arguably though it predates MLK’s activism with military enforced desegregation in the 50s. Basically MLK is a fake poster boy/story.

BobtheBuilder says:

Given that I already use the Question of “you vaxxed bro” as a filter for who has anything intelligent to say in meatspace, how would one adapt it to cyberspace?

If someone says yes, they are kinda dumb (if they just went along), spineless (but my job required it), or delusional/evil (the SCIENCE said so). If they still insist it was correct, then they are very much dumb, evil, or insane.

However, a shill would just say no. In which case, we have to ask why they didn’t jab.

1. If they say something like “well, it seemed like it was rushed and poorly tested” then they are ignorant, but not dumb. If however, they pair this explanation with a bunch of esoteric political posturing, outside of what a total normie would do, then they are almost certainly a shill.

2. If they say “its those evil corporations looking for profit” then they are a lefty, a shill, or going with a ‘safe’ explanation out of ignorance or desire to maintain their view. Same consideration as 1.

3. “Its the KIKES.” Apply Soros test to distinguish between glow or legit HOI4 enjoyer. Afterwards ask them why Israel has the same level of die off as other countries. Then ask them what kind of army divisions they use when playing Germany.

4. “Depopulation agenda.” Correct answer, but ask them to elaborate. If they talk about Bill Gates, probably a normiecon similar to Ben “Giving Heart Attaxxies to the Vaxxies” Garrison, or a lazy shill, use context clues. If they have an elaborate explanation, about the WEF, or automation making people useless, or something about Global Warming worship by the elites, try to ask question that a script-writer wouldn’t anticipate.

5. “Book of Revelations.” At this point, might even be correct. Apply Jesus test and St Paul themed Woman test though.

Guy says:

6. Because the worst people in the world were very mad that I didn’t want to

Jehu says:

Because I don’t trust the public health apparatus. I haven’t since the days of AIDS. They’re clearly more interested in promoting a social and political agenda than in actually maintaining public health. Couple that with the massive levels of censorship in the public square and reasonable men will conclude that whatever it is that they’re pushing, they’re wrong.

Redbible says:

What if Someone says they didn’t trust the vaccine because:
1. They saw the covid lock downs for the scam they were, and didn’t trust the government pushing propaganda to take the vaccine to get your life back.
2. They know that traditional vaccines take 2 years to develop, and “miraculously” this vaccine only took 1…
3. They already didn’t take vaccines in general.

There are more reasons than you list includes.

BobtheBuilder says:

I’m aware, this is a prototype, and I’m looking for feedback. Answers 1 and 2 in my list were perfectly fine in the year 2021, have less explanatory power in 2023 given the sheer amount of vitriol and pressure and persecution directed at those who resisted, far more than what is usual for those not taking vaccines.

I’ll add

6. I do the opposite of what the screen people say.

7. I don’t take vaccines in general.

to the list. Your reason of number 2 is a more elaborate and well thought out version of my reason 1. I am using the word “ignorant” in the context of “ignorant of the malice the vaccine pushers have towards man.” For a non-“ignorant” person, reason 1, 6, and 7 must turn into reason 2, 3, 4, and 5 upon deeper probing, unless I am missing something (Its the LIZARDMEN can be safely tossed out as a glow-in-the-dark turd in the punch bowl).

Adam says:

It sounded exactly the same as the climate demon, the same noises from the same people offering the same solutions. And not a doctor among them mentioned being fit and healthy is the best medicine.

Pax Imperialis says:

>If someone says yes

This is very tangential to your post, but some may find it interesting for the unstated implications about GAE security prospects.

Secondary psychopathy traits (e.g. boldness, fearless dominance, etc) are concentrated in the warrior class. When one considers that

Self-injurious thoughts and behaviors are positively associated with secondary psychopathy and negatively associated or unrelated to primary psychopathy

well… it is sweet and proper to die for one’s country.

Starman says:

This is how I avoided the mRNA clotshot:

In March/April 2020, nobody in America or in my neighborhood dropped dead in the street from COVID-19, then the medical professionals were caught counting motorcycle crash deaths and gunshot wounds as “covid deaths.”

After that, I went onto this blog’s comment section, and declared covid to be fake and gay. And commentators aswaes, Steve Johnson, Jan Martense, and even Not Tom got butthurt about my declaration.

Finally, the health experts declared that BLM riots don’t spread covid, but attending church does spread covid. That Walmart doesn’t spread covid, but Mr. Mom and Pop store does. Hence, all covid related medical procedures and recommendations were all ignored by me.

TrevorGoodchild’s pinned posts noting that the mRNA companies were immune from liability to American citizen lawsuits, was the icing on the cake.

Starman says:

After that BLM letter from the credentialed experts that claimed BLM riots were immune from covid, I simply ignored covid.

After that BLM letter, I concluded that all covid treatments were superfluous. That meant no ivermectin, no hydroxichloroquine, no interaction with the hospital, no sinovac, no SputnikV, and no mRNA clotshots for me.

The Cominator says:

I knew it was basically the flu after reading the South Korean data in February 2020 and given the timing i smelled a rat before that.

Red says:

Any idea why Japan and South Korea went nuts with the mRNA vax? Japan sounds like they took more doses than the US.

The Cominator says:

Conformity antlike populations but their governments were less bad.

pinochet's ghost says:

Japan has come under much more direct US pressure than previously due to the China situation and its general weakening standing in the world as its workforce shrinks.

pinochet's ghost says:

“After that BLM letter, I concluded that all covid treatments were superfluous. That meant no ivermectin, no hydroxichloroquine, no interaction with the hospital, no sinovac, no SputnikV, and no mRNA clotshots for me.”

Smart guy. All these people running around saying 1. covid isnt real/important 2. Im stocking up on internet medicines in case I get covid never made any sense.

jim says:

> These people running around saying 1. covid isnt real/important 2. Im stocking up on internet medicines in case I get covid never made any sense.

I have for many years stocked up on antibiotics, and a variety of medicines that were difficult to obtain, or might become difficult to obtain, and on one occasion my antibiotic stockpile arguably saved my life, and on many occasions it has been very helpful.

Stockpiling Ivermectin is just one more, and I have now learned it is useful for an extraordinary wide range of ailments – any problem you have that is caused by a hostile and harmful eukaryotic organism, ivermectin is likely to help, and it helps with surprising number of non eukaryotic organisms.

BobtheBuilder says:

Got a list of antibiotics one should stockpile? I currently only have some first aid kits.

jim says:

Azithromycin
Amoxycillin
Clindamycin
Metronidazole (or, better, teicoplanin, if you can get it)

Amoxicillin is the safest, and takes care of most things. Azithromycin pretty safe also.

Clindamycin takes care of what those two will not, but can mess up your gut bacteria in a bad way. You should take probiotics after any course of antibiotics, but especially after Clindamycin. Big problem with clindamycin is it kills no end of good gut bacteria, but fails to kill some extremely dangerous and harmful gut bacteria.

Clindamycin and teicoplanin are the only oral drugs effective against MRSA (flesh eating bacteria)

Clyndamycin contributes to the likelihood of dangerous overgrowth of the toxin producing bacterium clostridium difficile by suppressing its competition. clostridium difficile manifests primarily as diarrhea Effective treatment Metronidazole, bacitracin. Most effective treatment by far teicoplanin, which is not only more effective but vastly safer than Metronidazole, but the Global American Empire restricts teicoplanin for the same evil and murderously insane reasons as it restricts Ivermectin

Cipro, flox, is extremely dangerous. Cipro (ciprofloxacin), Levaquin (levofloxacin) and Avelox (moxifloxacin). In 2010, Levaquin was the best-selling antibiotic in the United States. It is extremely common for fluoroquinolones to cause horrifying and permanent side effects.

None of these are effective against viral and eukaryotic diseases, but Ivermectin is effective against most eukaryotic diseases and some viral diseases, Covid among them. Against viral diseases, needs to be taken early. Twenty milligrams as soon as you notice the disease.

Anonymous Fake says:

One would think the left would be all over this, to blame Trump. [*deleted*]

jim says:

Actually one would not think that unless one viewed leftist ideology as spontaneously coming from the bottom up rather than the top down.

gorzya says:

I’ve taken the two original Pfizer shots and one booster shot.

How do I avoid dying suddenly? In terms of medicine, diet, etc.

jim says:

Because no one is allowed to study these anomalous cases of young people dying suddenly, no one has reliable information on the topic.

A wild assed guess is that a lot of these sudden death cases are associated with very long, very thin, strangely rubbery blood clots, too thin to show up on MRI but glaringly obvious on autopsy. In which case blood thinners, such as regular aspirin, will reduce your risk.

But truth is, no one knows, and anyone claiming to know is full of it.

Pax Imperialis says:

>But truth is, no one knows, and anyone claiming to know is full of it.

No one knows the full truth, but I think it’s pretty safe to extrapolate from this,

In December 2021, in cooperation with the school vaccination system of Taipei City government, we performed a ECG screening study during the second dose of BNT162b2 vaccines. Serial comparisons of ECGs and questionnaire survey were performed before and after vaccine in four male-predominant senior high schools. Among 7934 eligible students, 4928 (62.1%) were included in the study. The male/female ratio was 4576/352. In total, 763 students (17.1%) had at least one cardiac symptom after the second vaccine dose

(Other studies have found higher rates)

and knowing that cardiac symptoms in young people is highly abnormal…

A less wild guess is that there has been a lot of subclinical heart damage in the unsuspecting general public. What do doctors say about subclinical heart issues?

Subclinical cardiac dysfunction precedes the development of heart failure and other cardiovascular diseases but often goes undiagnosed due to lack of screening paradigms and available testing strategies.

So probably a good idea to avoid heavy physical activity for a while.

Red says:

Germany did an Autopsy study on the Vax and Myocarditis with deaths within 30 days of a vax. What it showed was that older people got Myocarditis from the vax all the time and died from it. The reason it showed up mostly in young men was that they were the least likely to die from it immediately.

gorzya says:

>probably a good idea to avoid heavy physical activity for a while.

Last shot (booster) was in November 2021 (original shots were in February and March that year).

Does the damage accumulate over time or, since more than a year has passed, I’m probably in the clear already and can go back to gym etc.?

jim says:

We don’t really know. It certainly accumulate over the time scale of boosters, pretty much linearly. Your risk seems proportional to the number of boosts.

It could well be that after a few months unboosted, you are going to be fine. It could also be that one jab is a death sentence, just takes longer to kill you if you do not boost.

Doom says:

John Paul has some interesting articles on post covid effects, I’d assume that there is some crossover between post jab and post covid

Eg

https://hiddencomplexity.substack.com/p/how-to-minimize-paradoxical-acquired

Red says:

When you work out stick to zone 2 cardio and light lifting. Don’t push yourself at all doing physical activity. If you get weird heart rate issues, see a cardiologist ASAP. If you feel something is wrong, don’t push through it.

Oh and avoid deep fried foods especially within 24 hours of planned of heavy physical activity. Deep fried foods seem to cause an inelastic response in the arteries for up to 24 hours after consuming them. If your arteries already have blocks building up, the arteries being unable to stretch is very likely to cause a heart issues especially if you try heavy physical activity in that condition. Heart attacks are extremely common after consuming deep fried foods especially those cooked in vegetable oil, but the oxidation effect of the high heat probably causes the same effect no mater the oil. Just better to avoid it altogether.

gorzya says:

>When you work out stick to zone 2 cardio and light lifting. Don’t push yourself at all doing physical activity. If you get weird heart rate issues, see a cardiologist ASAP. If you feel something is wrong, don’t push through it.

Thank you for the advice.

My question is: does the prospect of dying suddenly (“idiopathic” ventricle fibrillation) increase over time since taking the vaccine, or does it decrease over time?

Another way of asking: is it likely that a significant proportion of those who’ve taken the vaxx have a ticking time bomb in their bodies that will eventually go off if triggered by e.g. strenuous exercise, or if you have no symptoms for a long time, then the “mild” myocarditis and “mild” blood clots etc. will resolve on their own?

jim says:

We just do not have the data.

It would not be hard to find out, but no one dares look.

Your Uncle Bob says:

I haven’t dug into everything in this protocol, but the guys behind it were correct on treatment for covid itself, as well as on staying off the vax.

https://covid19criticalcare.com/treatment-protocols/i-recover/

There’s overlap between vax detox and primary covid treatment, given the spike protein is a concern in both cases. So things like nicotine for spike protein mitigation may help, ivermectin might help and can’t hurt. But it’s not the only thing going on, as Jim notes about the blood clots.

Red says:

They list Ivermectin as a treatment for getting rid of spike proteins. Ivermectin nukes your got bacteria and should not be used very often. I don’t know how they expect it to help with the spike protean.

A2 says:

From what I recall reading, Ivermectin helped against the first SARS, so why not the second one.

Red says:

It helps prevent the virus from replicating. How does that clean spike proteins from the system? Unless there a link in how the mRNA continues to produce spike protean longer after the vaccine that Ivermectin stops, which I don’t think anyone has established or suggested.

gorzya says:

Does the danger from the spike proteins linger for the long-term / indefinitely, or does it diminish over time?

Basically what I’m asking:

a. the vaxx poses the greatest danger in proximity to taking it, which danger diminishes over time;
b. the vaxx causes permanent damage (e.g. heart injury) once taken, which then stays the same;
c. the vaxx becomes more dangerous as time goes by, i.e. it’s a ticking time bomb.

If (a) is true, then I’m in the clear. If (b) is true, I guess I need to hop on aspirin ASAP. And if (c) is true, then it’s a very big problem.

gorzya says:

(sorry for screwed up formatting lol)

jim says:

As I said, we just do not know, research on the topic being forbidden.

A2 says:

I see, sloppy reading on my part. Never mind.

C4ssidy says:

There’s a strange meme going around about the spike protein being chitin. I haven’t bothered to check because who cares if both spikes proteins? But my ai tells me that one of the numerous effects, in addition to parasite nerve cells and anti-inflammation , is binding to enzymes used to build chitin. So what about binding to enzymes used to produce the spike protein? If I heard the story correctly, part of the problem of the spike is continuous production

gorzya says:

>There’s overlap between vax detox and primary covid treatment, given the spike protein is a concern in both cases.

This is what bugs me: is the spike protein a long-term concern, or does it eventually clear out (which is why they keep demanding more and more boosters)? If it clears out, and 14 months have passed since my last jab, then I probably have nothing to worry about.

If it doesn’t clear out, and if subclinical myocarditis is long-term, and blood clots are long-term, then anyone jabbed can suffer an event at any time – could be 5 years after the jab. This is the real concern AFAIC.

Guy says:

Don’t sleep on the cancer, cardiovascular is getting all the attention now, but the cancers are more aberrant from my perspective.

Take the hazing in stride, it’s not Starman and KDs fault you offed yourself. Hopefully you’re not one of the few who didn’t actually deserve it. We’ll mourn our lover ones (if that) the rest of you can suffer.

gorzya says:

>Don’t sleep on the cancer, cardiovascular is getting all the attention now, but the cancers are more aberrant from my perspective.

Due to the “died suddenly” phenomenon. Cancer doesn’t make you drop dead out of the blue; if diagnosed with cancer, you still have some time to prepare for whatever may come. Dying suddenly is the result of cardiac issues. Another question is if the excess deaths reported are the result of cardiovascular issues alone or all cause mortality.

jim says:

And the answer is, we just don’t know the answer, because no one dares look for the answer.

Starman says:

@gorzya

“I’ve taken the two original Pfizer shots and one booster shot.”

Was that voluntary, or coerced?

gorzya says:

A difference without a distinction.

It’s almost never coercive in the sense of being forcibly injected.

It’s almost always coercive in the sense of overwhelming pressure to follow through.

Starman says:

@gorzya

“A difference without a distinction.

It’s almost never coercive in the sense of being forcibly injected.

It’s almost always coercive in the sense of overwhelming pressure to follow through.”[attempt at obfuscation detected]

Time for a yes or no question:

Were you forced by loss of job/starvation or forced by law to take, not only the two mRNA shots, but also the booster?

Yes, or no?

gorzya says:

Not total loss of job, but reduction in employment prospects.

Kunning Druegger says:

Answer the question vaxxie. You have no place to push back until you do, plastic veins.

gorzya says:

Loss of employment is the answer, whether that counts as coercion or not is open to your interpretation.

Are you still organizing OPSEC-compromising skype meetings, or do you only ask to meet reactionaries IRL, feddie?

Kunning Druegger says:

Yeah, but you aren’t invited because you’re a vaxxie. Maybe you’ll find someone interesting to talk with in the Vaxx Hospice or something.

Aryaman says:

It was easy to fake a vaccine card. It was even easier to take the single shot vaccine that they tried to suppress (that nonetheless did not work, and was still very bad for you, though probably not nearly as bad). And it was easier still to avoid the booster.

The whole thing was a choice, but the booster was really a choice.

gorzya says:

Easy in some countries, quite less easy in others with stricter enforcement and mandates.

pinochet's ghost says:

Threat of job loss is not “overwhelming pressure.” You were coerced but you were not forced. You made a decision to comply with a moderate threat.

gorzya says:

By the way, are you (a non-Christian slant-eyed gook) coerced to be in America in lieu of your ancestral homeland?

Yes or no.

Trump 2024 says:
Red says:

That’s extremely interesting.

Anon says:

What a valuable link.
Thanks.

Aryaman says:

Goes against every materialist impulse in my body to say it, but I think simply and genuinely recognizing you poisoned yourself will help somewhat. Other than that; live healthy, take some asprin, and avoid to the extent you can getting sick until it has been a while since your last injection. Anyway, that is all you can do.

If there were some material cure for the vax, there would not have been the vax. So don’t obsess over it either.

Your Uncle Bob says:

Okay that aspirin link is very interesting, thank you.

Maybe this is a good time to ask, what else to do if you get a cancer diagnosis? I know avoid sugar to begin with, and go off sugar and carbs completely and go high animal fat if you get a diagnosis. I would now add aspirin and E, from the linked article. I’ve heard megadose vitamin C, which runs up against uptake limits orally so look into intravenous.

Then a couple things I considered more fringe, ivermectin (?) and baking soda (conceivable, but sounds like you’d need a sympathetic doctor not just take a spoonful by mouth).

What else?

jim says:

It is plausible that ivermectin is effective against some cancers, because ivermectin kills a very large range of primitive eukaryotic organisms, and cancer cells revert to a more primitive state. But, of course, research on the matter has not been done, and one is likely to get into trouble if one does it.

If I had cancer, would immediately go on a diet of near zero carbs, low protein, and high animal fat (cheese and butter diet). Cancer cells have defective mitochondria, so are sugar dependent.

simplyconnected says:
Red says:

Baking soda is about the most effective anti acid instant heart burn relief and for cleaning stomach acid off your teeth after throwing up. I used to have very bad acid reflux and I found nothing worked as well as sipping a cup of water mixed with 1/4 teaspoon Baking soda.

It’s also super high in sodium. 1/4 teaspoon has around 1000mg sodium. Don’t over use.

simplyconnected says:

I had read 1/2 teaspoon morning, 1/2 before bed. I was increasing to more than a teaspoon so I will reduce dose. Thanks.

Red says:

Actually I was wrong, it’s a full teaspoon that’s 1200mg.

Cloudswrest says:

You can take 1000 mg of potassium bicarbonate instead of sodium bicarbonate. That’s what I take as part of my evening supplement stack. I brush my teeth with sodium bicarbonate every other day, and regular toothpaste on the other days.

Cloudswrest says:
Zach says:

Never heard the baking soda/cancer thing before. As a guy that stays on top of things, I’m almost blown away that I haven’t.

I brought the sugar/cancer connection to the mayo for discussion because I was dying from cancer and wanted to stop eating sugar. They found my arguments insufficient, and wanted meta studies. Thinking these studies would be numerous and all over the place, had problems finding any at the time. What?! Never revisited this topic. Anybody got any links for the sugar/cancer connection with more specificity than sugar=inflammation=cancer, route?

jim says:

We definitely know that cancer cells are universally or almost universally sugar dependent, because of reversion to more primitive state – they are unable to obtain energy from fats or ketones.

This is an obvious avenue of attack, but there is a strange reluctance to look into it.

Alfred says:

For those who are interested in learning more about this, look into the Warburg hypothesis. Cancer cells (near) exclusively generate energy via fermentation, not respiration. Warburg was a pre-WWII German doctor/biologist, FWIW.

The metabolic causes of disease and health in general seem to have fallen by the wayside after the war. If you read old medical texts at or before the early 20th century, you will come across many treatments and cures that research today has either decided are un-Scientific^TM tall tales and understands can’t be monetized.

For instance, I’ve heard of one that talks about a diet of exclusively raw milk for 4-6 weeks that could cure allergies and other autoimmune ailments. These sorts of things pop up often in Ray Peat’s writings as well.

jim says:

The collapse of science happened in proportion to distance from matters poz care about. Since biology and medicine closest, medical science was first to die.

DrRapeEat says:

According to Ray Peat, if you restrict glucose, cancer cells will still get glucose by increasing production of cortisol, destroying your muscles in the process.

Ray also seems to be a fan of the Warburg hypothesis, as Alfred mentioned.

https://raypeat.com/articles/articles/mitochondria-mortality.shtml

Jim says:

> Aside from ivermectin:
> Ivermectin, a potential anticancer drug derived from an antiparasitic drug
> Ivermectin has > New Application in Inhibiting Colorectal Cancer Cell Growth

Ivermectin is lethal to a very wide range of eukaryotic organisms, but innocuous to most higher vertebrates. Cancer cells tend to revert to more primitive metabolism, and as a result some of them become vulnerable to ivermectin. Trouble is that it is unlikely that all of them become vulnerable to ivermectin, so at best it will kill some of the cancer cells, but some will continue.

It is a very broad spectrum treatment that is lethal to all manner of things that are immune to antibiotics. Antibiotics attack various metabolic pathways characteristic of lower organisms. Ivermectin blocks metabolic pathways that exist in all higher organisms, including humans, but which are redundant and inessential in humans, and redundant and inessential in most veterbrates.

Because it is cheap, unpatentable, harmless to humans, very long acting, and very broad spectrum, big pharma hates it. It is freely available over the counter in nations where a large proportion of the population is too poor for big pharma solutions.

Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

Apropos of nothing: https://files.catbox.moe/p3nlax.mp4

AI streamers keep getting banned by trannyannies on converged platforms for holding up a mirror to the world.

Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

Incidentally, one of the reasons why jannies are so often trannys, is since people actually familiar with and competent and enthusiastic about a hobby, are generally also going to spend most of their time simply doing and discussing that hobby with fellow hobbyists; leaving the space open for sadsacks who don’t really care about [thing] at all, and are just compulsively jumping at the chance for any kind of opportunity to exercise power over their neighbors, no matter how trivial.

Never make the mistake of failing to see just how self-serving spreading the idea of ‘noone good wishes to acquire power’ is for such types.

Red says:

What does the term jannies mean? I have a general idea of what it entails, but I missed out when it was first started popping up so I don’t believe I fully grasp it.

Don't Ask Me How I Know says:

Janitors on 4chan (who do it for free), or by extension, moderators in general.

BobtheBuilder says:

Low level moderators (who “””work””” for free) on 4chan are called janitors. This gets shortened to jannie, because it rhymes with tranny, which a lot of jannies are.

Red says:

Ha. I like that.

Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

Basically a general term for figures with moderating powers in an organized community, especially if the community is pozed, and they are ‘volunteers’ doing it >for free.

It originally comes from 4chan where there is a position literally called ‘janitor’ that is something like a pack of discount moderators which was created to handle the scut work of moderation (like going through the report queue). They supposedly cannot ban people, but they can delete posts and fast track reports, so it’s always easy to tell if the person you’re shitting on in a thread is actually a butthurt janny.

There is a perennial tendency for administration of subcultural niches to fall into the hands of leftist faggots who don’t actually care about doing whatever it is that the group is nominally supposed to be about doing, precisely because there is nothing else they care about except getting those opportunities to experience having impact, and that they don’t spend their time on anything else except this precis.

You might find power to be a hassle, but it is your God-given duty to take it – or to push a man you respect into it – because no throne goes unoccupied; if not by you, then daemons will in your stead.

Red says:

You might find power to be a hassle, but it is your God-given duty to take it – or to push a man you respect into it – because no throne goes unoccupied; if not by you, then daemons will in your stead.

Pretty much the story of my life. I find leading a hassle, but when I’ve left it to others I found myself dealing with evil people in those slots causing endless trouble. So I do the pain in the ass work these days even though my talents are better suited for more technical work.

Kunning Drueger says:

Interesting phenomenon related to this: /k/, a formerly magical place, had a disproportionately high number of Hohol jannies. This was an open secret, and /k/ was always aggressively antagonistic to Russians, Russian military, and Russian equipment (but not the AK platform lel). When the SMO began, /k/ went off the deep end with GAE propaganda, above and beyond Zelensky cope. In their eternal struggle against the vatnick menace, they suddenly became pro-Biden, pro-Vaxx, and anti-racist. Shill saturation is always bad, even if the shills aren’t explicitly opposed to you.

BobtheBuilder says:

One can also observe the result of shill-compliance in the difference between /ugh/ and /chug/. Both started out full of pretty standard /pol/iticians, who happened to disagree on whether “Ukraine is full of Nazis, we are Nazis, therefore based” or “Putin is the enemy of globohomo, therefore based.” At this point /uhg/ has fully converged to globohomo, being full of NAFO cocksuckers, globalist apologists, and even vaccine advocates, while Azov-chan the mascot no longer has a swastika tattoo. They even started trying to lambast /chug/ for being full of time honored 4chanisms in other threads.

S says:

Not appearing for me. Anyone else having problems?

Red says:

It doesn’t play for me either.

Kunning Drueger says:

It takes an extremely long time to load. Suspiciously long, IMO, but I don’t know what “catbox.moe” is, so it could be a hosting issue.

Probably off topic, but did anyone else find it strange that the massive online archive of free books that had been online, rain or shine, for over a decade went down after “we” started posting links here? When it happened, my paranoia went dangerously high. I found that site via /lit/, so it’s not an obscure or unknown site. I’m sure it’s happenstance, but then again…

Red says:

Speculation: they left the online archives alone while they completed the shredding and burning of the old books from the libraries. Good men didn’t worry about it too much because they were all over the internet. Now they’re finishing the job.

Mr.P says:

> … they left the online archives alone …. Now they’re finishing the job.

Your speculation is solid. As recently as six months ago, I was able to find and download good-quality epub old books with little effort. Now, nothing. Simultaneously, interloan library copies are drying up fast.

jim says:

Yes, this is horrifying. They are burning the original paper copies, and erasing the internet copies. They are systematically destroying the past.

i says:

@jim

So unless someone has been archiving. What is the solution?

jim says:

There are a lot of people that are data hoarders, that have mega archives. Libgen is good, IPFS is good. Anna’s library is good. These people are doing good work. I should be doing it but I am lazy and busy.

I might get onto it after I rebuild my backup server, which is unfortunately currently dead. Libgen needs more IPFS duplication and we need to duplicate scans. Libgen stores primarily texts. The period of history that matters is history from when we had a kingly regime with a sane state religion, 1660 to 1820, and a record of our decline, 1820 to 1963, and put it up on IPFS, with the metadata in anna and libgen

Someone should be doing work on libgen’s metadata search functions, which suck mightily, but I have not thought about this, being focused on the blockchain problem.

Libgen is 33 terabytes. That is seven eight terabyte drives on a raid six system. Starlink has a soft data cap of one terabyte per month,so it would take an unreasonably long time to fully sync libgen, but most of that is not old books, but stuff we have small reason to care about.

Anna’s library has seven terabytes in addition to libgen, meaning eight eight terabyte drives on a raid 6 system. The trouble is that we would like to store the old stuff, which if lost is a devastating blow to our civilization, and the old stuff is not easily separable from the new. Forty terabytes is so much that what is important gets lost in the noise. We need preservation, and we need metadata. Metadata is hard.

If we had good date metadata, that would make the storage and download problem vastly easier. The threat is that the Cathedral wants to erase the memory that things used to be better.

Red says:

Personal archives. We’ll probably only be able to save a fraction of what’s being destroyed, but better than nothing.

Oog en Hand says:

Learn Hebrew, learn Arabic. Then read what matters.

jim says:

1660 to 1820, the state religion was sane, and had the advantage of more history than the writers of the Old Testament had, so English matters more.

i says:

@jim

I think not only should data be Digital. But also Analog. Just in case we may have a regression of tech to more primitive forms.

If it can be replicated on physical movable type. Then it could be as indestructible as the manifold Bibles printed in Europe that helped the Reformation.

The Internet is energy intensive. Information would need to be available in less energy intensive forms like the Old Books that are being disposed of right now.

jim says:

Analog would be printing all these books with ink containing carbon black on paper with with significant calcium carbonate impregnation. (acid free paper, iso 9706) That is a lot of paper, and a lot of ink. And you are going to want to print double sided, which requires that you separate documents rather than have one great continuous stream – you need physical metadata as well as physical data.

Metadata is the hard problem. Without metadata, a big pile of data is just rubbish. Libgen and Anna have a metadata crisis, and even once you have metadata, expressing metadata as physical documents is hard.

Carbon black inks last forever, and paper with significant calcium carbonate impregnation should last centuries. In theory, the standard cheap acid free stuff, ISO 9706, is expected to last five centuries or more assuming it never gets wet.

jim says:

Far more useful, and far more urgent, would be setting up an IPFS collaborative cluster for the the library, which currently does not exist.

Since the library is rather huge, a collaborative cluster for the subset of old data in the library would be extremely useful, rendering the data that the government most wants forever erased much harder to erase.

For most of the data, the issue is merely open access. For the old data, the issue is its very existence. A collaborative cluster would ensure it exists for as long as the technology survives – after that is secured, then we can worry about preservation against the failure of technology.

pinochet's ghost says:

There is need for a research and archive project for the time before printing.

This enemy is an order and it is literate. Neither orders nor literacy began with printing, only our ability to observe their operation.

We face the problems of the scarcity of manuscripts, difficulty of accessing them, and them being written in hieratic languages.

jim says:

The most important stuff, and the stuff that is in danger, is eighteenth and nineteenth century English texts.

What we need to preserve is every book edition that does not have an ISBN number, If it had copyright, or if anyone cared about the copyright, it would have an ISBN number. ISBN numbers primarily exist to track book copyright. If no ISBN number, no copyright, out of copyright, or nobody cares.

libgen is a pirate library, but in truth a non pirate library is a bigger threat to regime power because old books contain ideas the regime wants erased.

C4ssidy says:

Are those books plain text? Old books on archive.org all seem to be bad image scans (with the text version incomprehensible because the scan is so bad that the software won’t recognise the words correctly).

Even if plaintext, utf 8 is 8 bits or 256 options per letter. Most old books will not have strange characters. You could get away with six bits. For huge quantities of books what about lookup tables where the binary corresponds to a word directly. Compared to even six a letter, there are surely less than 64 possible one letter words , and less 64×64 or 2^12 two letter words and so on, even if the lookup table is large, it would presumably become worthwhile for large quantities of books. Words which are sufficiently rare or unique would just be attached separately in standard format and slotted in when loading

with some kind of label system separate from isbn that everyone agrees on you could build immutable agreement on what content each id actually contains, somehow make erasure of the past as difficult as double spending. We should be able to reference even a chapter down to a word number of literally any public domain text and have easily confirmable computerised agreement on what it was

pinochet's ghost says:

Out of copyright books can simply be transcribed and published on Amazon.

StJtMS says:

I’ve compiled and organized a personal collection of thousands of digital books, newsletters and pamphlets for just the reasons mentioned above. Heavy on history, culture, anthropology/race, lots on J€wish influence on society and history—things our great grandfathers probably knew but have been educated out of recent generations. Also includes classic novels and a solid classic children’s book collection including both kid’s fiction and non-fiction–books extolling virtues and values for youngsters via classic stories of Vikings, Romans, Spartans Celts and on and on, books that were once ubiquitous in English-speaking schools and homes. Lots of works on Europe and Western Civilization, Christianity and pre-Christianity and more, on probably every epoc, country and people. What I would consider a reaction library, including solid revisionist histories on the World Wars and on the Holocaust/holohoax and more.

A small number are from the range Jim mentioned–the collection needs bolstering in that range. Publishing dates here range probably mostly from mid/late 1800’s to 1960’s, 70’s or later in some worthy cases.

Most are PDF files but there are some epub and kindle azw and mobi (now apparently going away) files as well. Organized and essentially classified in a Windows folder structure with about 7,500 files and approx 45 GB. Regarding quality, most of what I’ve archived are good scans on which optical character recognition usually has high accuracy search rates in most cases across the collection. Maybe 75% of the content was originally from archive.org. Through occasional content spot checks a lot of what I downloaded there is still available but yeah, I’ve noticed that a small percentage has already disappeared. Alarming but not surprising.

I’d love to share this collection widely. Currently stored on a local nas drive with redundancy back up but not yet in cloud. Happy to instead pay a hosting provider for safe storage at a site where anyone can download, however my fear with using an amazon web, google.docs, etc –even if on a paid plan—books could “disappear” by moderators searching for badthink. Any suggestions welcomed.

jim says:

The big thing is metadata, how do people find those books.

IPFS is the way to distribute unchanging data, such as books. But there are a bajillion things published on IPFS, and they might as well be buried on a desert island unless there is some way to find them.

Anna’s archive is an index of books, metadata, mostly stuff copyrighted by evil powerful quasi state corporations, the academic publishers, published on IPFS.

What is desirable, is curation. The metadata that some authority thinks this book is desirable and matters, the metadata that some authority thinks the book is relevant to such and such.

Pretty much everything that is under threat of being lost forever, is of value, and needs preservation is stuff that does not have an ISBN. If it is old, does not have an ISBN, almost certainly out of copyright everywhere and if it is in copyright somewhere, nobody cares – so we are worried about a different threat model to Anna’s archive and libgen.

Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

There are many pomf clones out there which are used for popup file hosting. Catbox happens to be one of the oldest still continuously running, so lots of folks use it, especially folks around anonymous cambodian cave painting appreciation adjacent circles.

There are others that i happen to personally prefer with better background records, but which i won’t mention for reasons im hopefully sure you understand.

Kunning Druegger says:

But of course.

Aryaman says:

Loads fine for me, quickly.

Red says:

Off topic:

I was watching this Religion for Breakfast video talking about the Aryan Sky Father God:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUIQAGqhSj0

We know very little about the original Aryan religion but Sky Father reminds me a bit of how God was worshiped after Eden and the Flood. Burnt sacrifices made in the open to the sky without an Idol.

Abraham was a Prophet of God, but I doubt he was the only Prophet of God running around. When he interacted with the Pharaoh of Egypt they seemed both to refer to the same God. That could be writer’s of Genesis making it relatable or it could be that it was the same God the Aryan’s worshiped. The Rulers of the Bronze age civilization being Aryans at this time.

i says:

The native Egyptian Dynasty drove out the Hyksos. And the introduction to Exodus says in which I paraphrase “A New King arose who didn’t know Joseph”.

Red says:

Both the “Native Egyptians” and the Hyksos were ruled by Aryans. The Hyksos were a bunch of Semitic boys an Aryan war band assembled to invade Egypt.

In a pre-history or a suppressed history(IE they don’t want to report it) it’s pretty clear that chariot riding Aryans conquered all the bronze age civilizations and became the ruling classes. We have genetic testing on Egyptian Pharaohs mummies and most of them seemed to be of Aryan stock. Hell the first Emperor of China was probably Aryan. The Chinese government refuses to open his tomb for pictures and genetic testing due stories of his non Han Characteristics.

jim says:

Yes, multiple references in the Old Testament to Abraham running into assorted worshipers of the One God. Seems like a completely routine and unremarkable thing. And we see military alliances on religious lines, so I am pretty sure that that, at least, was not the writers of Genesis making it relatable. The writers of genesis are writing in the frame that worship of the one god was widespread, normal and routine, and more importantly, we see stories that only make sense if it was indeed widespread, normal, and routine.

Jehu says:

Job is considered a non-Israelite prophet of the One God. Balaam also had dealings with the One God. Those are two I can think of right off hand cited in the OT.

i says:

@jim

God more specifically chose to appear to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob/Israel. Officially inaugurating the Nation of Israel at Mount Sinai when the Divine Glory manifested on its top. Where the design of the Tabernacle was shown and Tablets of Stone was given.

God waged War and preserved the Nation of Israel in the Levant from whom the Messiah will come.

And then go on the offensive to gather all followers of the One God under Jesus Christ. And the bring the demon worshippers who do repent into submission also.

Demon worship will have overtaken many people who once worshipped the One God. But for those who kept the faith they will embrace the One God in Jesus Christ.

The Gospel is about peeling people away from Demon Worship. But that makes the Demons angry who fights with God for followers.

pinochet's ghost says:

The Jews’ book is a pastiche of Sumerian-Babylonian mythology but the Genesis story is simply the story of a para-social gypsy tribe that targets the elite rather than the underclass i.e. the Jews. There’s nothing Aryan about it. If it hadn’t been stabled to the New Testament, Aryans would never have found anything appealing about this story of fraud and betrayal.

jim says:

You appear to be a Jew and a feminist. All your criticisms of Jews come from the frame we those Jews are just so much smarter than you we dumb Goyim cattle. You will not accept or respond to criticisms of Jews made from a different frame, and those criticisms seem to upset you as if they were personal.

The Bronze age collapsed in the mass movements of heavily armed refugees. Fast breeding nomadic herder peoples who retained the old patriarchal social technology overran the decadent civilized people who were suffering, as Ipuwer laments, and as Exodus records, from massive failure to reproduce.

The Hebrews, recently nomadic, and respectful of the ways of their forefathers, reverted to nomadic herding. But because they were led by two renegade Egyptian priests, kept literacy, while all the other peoples who overran Bronze Age civilization either never had literacy, or they lost it – viewing it as a trick of tax collectors, usurers, and demon worshiping sex pervert priests.

Thus the Hebrews alone preserved the healthy social technology of those that overran Bronze Age civilization in writing, while all the other peoples lost it.

The important elements of that social technology is that private property is endorsed, coveting is condemned, and women are entirely property of their husband and remain the property of the husband’s family should they be widowed – transfer of daughters to wives is total, complete, and permanent.

These were the key elements of Aryan social technology, and it is this that you are opposing, particularly when you endorse recently existent Nazism.

Today, coveting is a holy sacrament, abortion is a holy sacrament, because it emancipates women and gives them total control of reproduction, and women are equal to men except that they are a lot more equal.

The social technology preserved in the Old Testament is damned good social technology, the best stuff, and those that adopted it flourished, and those that failed to adopt it were conquered or vanished. Which is why the Christians won, and the pagans lost.

pinochet's ghost says:

Aryans are northern people evolved to be cooperative because sometimes that’s necessary to survive harsh winters, warfare too expensive, etc. Jews are a not. This isn’t a general intelligence advantage but it’s a competitive advantage in scamming. Most scammers target idiots, or perhaps just most scammers that get caught. The Joseph story’s message is: scam for the jugular.

The Hexateuch was probably written no earlier than the 6th century BC by a population that was at that time living in Babylon. Some of the other books were written much later and contain material that is more appropriate to a state.

jim says:

Warfare too expensive my ass. Aryans were organized as a warrior aristocracy. Their social order was built around war. Whites are wolf to whites, always have been, always will be.

It is obvious that Deuteronomy, Joshua, and Judges were written before they had a Kingly state – they are written from within the frame of the people they describe, not written from within the frame of a people that live in a centralized state. Therefore written long before the exile in Babylon. If written at the time of Samuel, events would have been shoehorned into the frame of people accustomed to a more centralized religion. If written after the time of Samuel, shoehorned into the frame of people accustomed to more centralized governance. The people who wrote those books tend to assume that some centralized governance is normal and desirable, but don’t expect it to be a big factor in human affairs, or that it will reliably be around.

The problems with Jews are not that they are equipped with powerful mind control rays.

1. That they are foreigners, eternal exiles, so the the treasonous native elite hires them to do the the dirt on their native subjects, and then piously says “hey, it is not us, it is those horrid Jews”.

Which is very much what you are saying.

Notice that the areas where Jews are traditionally disproportionately successful are areas dependent on state power, the quasi statal sector such as finance, or areas essential for state power, such as Hollywood. Traditionally they were the King’s sponges, mopping up money from the peasants and “lending” it to the King, who never repaid it, and estate managers for absentee aristocratic landlords who were in the capital kissing the King’s arse. The absentee aristocratic landlord would hire a Jew, not because Jews are so terribly clever, but for fear a native would get too friendly with the peasants. Absent backing from hostile and corrupt native governing elites, Jews are not all that disproportionately successful in science, engineering, and business. They are disproportionately successful in academia, finance, and media. Jews are not artists, but art committees dispensing grants are full of Jews. If you see a giant stone turd in the public square, it is your taxes being dispensed by Jews to “artists”.

2. Legalism, following the letter of the law to evade the spirit. The Talmud is a gigantic collection of overly clever lawsuits against God, and if you have a bet or a contract with Jew, or a Jew makes you a promise, he is apt to come up with an overly clever interpretation of that bet, contract, or promise. Which is as much a problem for Jews dealing with Jews as it is for anyone else dealing with Jews. They lost the diamond trade because Jewish cohesion declined when they emancipated their women and introduced rabbinical divorce at female whim, while Jews cheating each other continued.

3. They hate Christ, Christians,and Christianity. Thus Zelensky persecutes the Church, and today, as in the Crusades, they side with Muslims against the Christians, even though the Muslims have usually treated them vastly worse than the Christians did. They invited the Muslims into France, and the Muslims are now chasing them out of France. This foolish self destructive hatred is the curse of the Christ killers, the eternal blood guilt of the Jews. The art they fund with your money is an expression of that hatred.

Anon says:

“It is obvious that Deuteronomy, Joshua, and Judges were written before they had a Kingly state – they are written from within the frame of the people they describe,”

Who “they had a kingly”?
are you talking about Aryans or Hebrew.
Are ancient hebrew Aryans? Was the OT written by Aryans?

jim says:

Literacy disappeared throughout the world in the Bronze age collapse except for Israel, Egypt, and Assyria. Israel kept literacy because founded by renegade Egyptian priests. So they alone recorded to social order and history of the people who overran Bronze Age civilization. So we would expect at least some of their books to be very old indeed. Deuteronomy, Joshua, and Judges, look very old indeed. They reflect the social order, and are written from the point of view, of people who lived after the disappearance of Bronze Age civilization with its big cities and strong states, and before the rise of iron age civilization with its big cities and strong states. Hence Judges, and all or most books prior to Judges, probably written before Solomon’s Kingdom, long before the Babylonian exile.

Book of Jonah shows knowledge of the details of Assyria’s capital, hence must have been written when that capital still existed. Writer must have been there, or spoken to someone who was there, possibly Jonah. Hence written before the Neo Babylonian empire existed, hence written before the exile in Babylon.

Stories that have the books of the bible written up long after the events depicted really make no sense. They are power speaking to truth There are lots of little details in there confirmed by modern archaeology that someone writing late would be unlikely to know.

The Iranians and the Kurds were originally Aryan, are today browner than the Jews. The Kurds recall their ancestors as fair skinned and fair haired, so likely the Hebrews were fair skinned and red headed.

Oog en Hand says:

The Christians did outbreed the Roman pagans, but it was the Roman pagans who married 30-year old men to 12-year old virgins. Combined with monogamy, this lead to an oversupply of young virgins, which lead to female infanticide, which lead to demographic implosion.

Orthodox Jews are now making the very same mistake, monogamy combined with age gap. Too many females left over. Within Hindu society this is going on for some time as well, monogamy, age gap, and resulting female infanticide. Muslims do not have the same problems due to polygamy. Muslims outbreed Hindus.

i says:

The problem is not with age gap(except if the Man is like 50+). But acceptance of abortion. Christians considered abortion as murder.

Plus Romans if Rodney Stark’s Book “Triumph of Christianity” is to be believed. Married Men to prepubertal females partly because of the lack of women as a result of infanticide.

And the premature marriage of girls before puberty is liable to lead to dysfunction down the line.

Oog en Hand says:

“the lack of women as a result of infanticide”

If both sexes are aborted/infanticided, no imbalance results. Cf. abortion in China/India vs abortion in the West/Russia. It is true, however, that they tried to remedy the lack of nubile females by marrying even younger females, creating a downward spiral.

i says:

Exactly. Because of the ban on infanticide. And more disproportionate conversion of women to the religion.

This meant that more older women got married because of said surplus. And the downward spiral of marrying even younger females was remedied.

Your Uncle Bob says:

>Combined with monogamy, this lead to an oversupply of young virgins

This is just flatly wrong. It’s what some men want to hear but not what’s real, and there’s a fringe wing of the red-pilled sphere that needs to get over it. Births of men and women are pretty near equal, slight oversupply of boys at birth, which gets corrected by greater male mortality to a slight oversupply of women – on the order of a percent, maybe two, depending on era and society.

That percent or two is easily soaked up by the very richest keeping a mistress on the side. As you go farther into legal polygamy you’ve got spare single males up to trouble (Islam’s model), up to the screw them over and dump them model of America’s underground fringe of polygamists.

>monogamy combined with age gap

In other words, what the Anglo-sphere did back when things were working for us. The math works out as long as each generation has an age gap. This is not hard.

Age gap just means women get married while still plausibly virgin (and not even always then, but at least without carouseling too bad) while men trade having to wait and get established for being plausibly high status to their new wives. It’s not the worst trade to make, especially compared to what we’re doing now.

>female infanticide

Not due to literally extra females, due to demon worship on the spiritual plane, economics requiring a male heir to support you on the physical plane. Female infanticide in any amount always leads to excess males and insufficient females, which disproves the female surplus theory.

Oog en Hand says:

“As you go farther into legal polygamy you’ve got spare single males up to trouble (Islam’s model), up to the screw them over and dump them model of America’s underground fringe of polygamists.”

Muslims are powerful enough to dump single males into Europe, making it OUR problem, not THEIRS.

Let us assume an age gap of ten years. Generation A has 100 males and 100 females, generation B, ten years younger, has 150 males and 150 females, assuming growing population. Then 100 A males are able to marry 150 B females. This means 50 B females will go without husband.

i says:

Let us assume an age gap of ten years. Generation A has 100 males and 100 females, generation B, ten years younger, has 150 males and 150 females, assuming growing population. Then 100 A males are able to marry 150 B females. This means 50 B females will go without husband.

Depending on how physically attractive they are. Or how good is their character. It isn’t too much of an issue.

Some women are best left unmarried because of bad character, mental health issues or too unattractive physically.

Also in reality its unlikely there is such a thing as your scenario where everyone has a 10 yr age gap.

Medieval Europe had this feature:
https://evoandproud.blogspot.com/2019/12/weird-people.html

That left a portion of women unmarried.

Kunning Druegger says:

>Muslims are powerful enough to dump single males into Europe, making it OUR problem, not THEIRS.

This presupposes that the Muslims knew about or were counting on a significant faction of the European Elites actively importing shitskin males, which is retarded. Muslim society always generates too many young men, and in the past, this meant big and bigger potential armies for piracy, slave raiding, and conquest. If Europe had a virtuous elite, there would be no shitskin importation, regardless of what muzzie rulers think/want. Arabs can’t win wars, Muslims have wave assaults and slave (prisoner) conversion.

Aryaman says:

Muslims in India are not polygamous but their women do not go to college nearly as much as Hindu women do, which explains the fertility gap. College both directly inhibiting reproduction, and also indicating convergence to western progressive norms.

Anyhow you do not have too many females leftover given how many women died giving birth.

raisin says:

Bit of drama summarized from a forum I follow:
Man is (he thinks) happily married. Wife announces she’s divorcing him and taking up with one of his best friends (immediately promoted to ex-friend). A few weeks pass during which acrimonious divorce talk happens. Wife discovers she’s pregnant (it is later genetic-testing verified that it is indeed Man’s and not Friend’s). Man comments to third party that he is going to wait for the child to be born and then kill wife and child. Third party, horrified, calls cops.

There’s a lot to unpack here on multiple levels but I’m wondering what the Jimian take on the situation is – not so much the divorce, that much I can figure out for myself, but the man’s reaction to it.

jim says:

Were I to find myself in that situation, not going to kill my child nor his mother. Taking care of a small child is very hard for a man, and no one is ever going to do it as well as the biological mother.

In the unlikely event ex friend wants to raise my child and hang with a cheating women, punishment enough. Might kill him for contributing to wifely misbehavior

But chances are that ex wife will discover that her new boyfriend is disinclined to spend a whole lot of time with used goods and someone else’s child, that ex wife is making a catastrophic and irreversible mistake. Taking care of a small child is very tough, and taking care of a fatherless child a whole lot tougher. And she will very likely belatedly remedy that mistake by allowing an unfortunate accident to happen to her child. Fatherless kids are at very high risk of unfortunate accidents.

In which case …

Red says:

Murder suicides of entire families happen a lot over such cases. I think it’s biological response to total genetic failure, IE the genes must all be bad due to the observed dysfunction thus, remove them all.

Jim’s take is the correct way to handle it, though killing him in front of her would be ideal(General Butt naked cred) but no way she could stop from bragging about the killing later. Best to handle such things in a desecrate manner and never talk about killing someone you are thinking about killing.

Adam says:

>I think it’s biological response to total genetic failure,

Just speculating… total genetic failure would be immediate and obvious a upon birth. I think the cases of familycide are more due to a lifetime of “responsible” behavior by the man, conservative behavior, cuck behavior. A lifetime of progressive mediocrity and gay marriage, and the cheating wife just pushes one over.

Blacks don’t seem to do this as often as middle and upper middle class whites. Jeremy Meeks doesn’t do this. It always seems to be nice guy beta bucks that snaps.

Red says:

When a mother kills all her young(I’ve seen it both with insane dogs and insane humans) it’s a good indication that her genetics where fucked up and should not be passed on.

Suicide by young men is generally because they can’t find a tribe or a wife, which a good indicate of genetic unfitness in our ancestral environment. It’s a dysfunction today because young men are being tortured out of natural patterns leading to built in evolutionary programs being fired when they should not be.

Likewise I think when a man kills his entire family he’s executing a genetic program to remove his bad genes from the gene pool. The program isn’t appropriate for the situation, rather he should kill his wife and the man fucking her. He does not do so because that would render him an outcast from the modern tribe. So it takes a awhile for men suffering in this intolerable conditions until he executes the wrong genetic program that ends the entire family.

Ash says:

If it is genetically his child than instinctively it is unlikely he would want to commit any killings..

This scenario is based on divorce which is likely money related. A very important rule during transactions (such as paying for labour, or having any sort of account shared with another male), or any other legal dealings is to not steal or take money off a man. money can make people crazy, and some will resort to murder in order to get their pound of flesh (metaphorically)

SJ says:

Rectification of names. The man ‘thought’ he was married but he was not, he was cargo cult married. I’m sure his ‘wife’ wore a white dress but did not bleed when he was the next man in the long line of men to pump a load into her. I’m sure his ‘wife’ was walked down the marriage aisle by her father who cargo cult acted the way a patriarch acts when he transfers ownership of his young virgin daughter to her husband even though no such thing is happening. It is not a woman’s fault that our men are no better than jungle nogs building statues of planes.

So said man needs to realize that he was not even married and has likely fathered a bastard. Fathering bastards is a normal thing for a man to do and fucking sluts is also normal. The man needs to rectify names as the problem exists inside his own mind where he has been living in a cargo cult of patriarchy.

The good news is that this is entirely the man’s fault which means he can fix these issues and, if he so desires, can break the law and have a real marriage with a different slut in the future. He will likely get child support but that can be minimized by an intelligent man. One way is to look and see whom women do not try to get child support from and act like that man. Doing so I was able to get one ex slut that fathered one of my bastards to agree to the legal state minimum. The path to do this is to appear as a slut fucker to the slut so that she will feel good about bearing your bastard. Slut fucker being what you guys call an alpha, though actual slut fuckers are typically retarded criminals with 75 IQs.

Western Taliban says:

That worthless whore said “until death do us apart”, she wants to be apart, she can be dead. But the child is his own blood, I’m not sure it’s “morally acceptable” to kill him.

As for what is most pragmatic, of what others have said I like SJ’s solution the best. You kinda take it on stride and move on to better things, it’s probably for the best so that you do not invest time or energy into a game rigged from the start.

What jim is saying is unclear to me, if you don’t kill the worthless whore while trying to stick around she is going to hold the child over you like a weapon for the rest of her life using the State to cuck you over and over. The child you’re invested in will grow up experiencing a revolving door of strange man after strange man plowing your ex-wife on likely the house that will be taken from you. Every visitation you’ll have to beg and unman yourself and she will take everything from you, every fucking penny, every shred of dignity that she can, and depending on the jurisdiction and judge it might be all. And she will also likely brainwash the kid to hate you and be a faggot tranny to spite you.

If you wanna keep the child the whore needs to die quietly so you have full rights over your child. Otherwise walk away. In any case do not kill the child.

i says:

Voxday has a post up about this very thing:
https://voxday.net/2023/01/17/deceiving-the-deceivers/

Many of the Clownworld leaders are sacrificed to the mob who will arise to burn down the government responsible for the mass deaths caused by the Jab.

The Hypothesis also goes that the real Rulers will then come to the rescue.

jim says:

The story sounds like bullshit to me, because it is smart powerful people implementing a rational self interested program.

Looks more like demonic self destructive evil and madness.

notglowing says:

The story requires you to believe that the vaccine is

A. Extremely deadly
B. Pushed by the scientist class in good faith, and not due to religious zeal
C. The side effects were a complete surprise to them, and not just something they brushed aside in the same of a sacrifice to covid

All this orchestrated by someone extremely smart, and calculating, from the outside.
It’s an absurd story. Furthermore, if this happened, those elites would not necessarily win. It’s a rational self interest plan but one that would likely result in their destruction in practice.

simplyconnected says:

I was skeptical of this take because:
1) how do they know that the population will trust the new world government once trust in all other institutions (politicians, doctors, professional associations, academia, media, judiciary, police..) is gone?
2) too many steps, if one goes wrong the whole thing fails.

jim says:

Someone notices our elite is on a suicidal course.

Confabulates a conspiracy with rational motives. Suicide seldom has rational motives.

simplyconnected says:

I’m finding it hard to wrap my head around their insane actions. Should stop trying to make sense of it.

notglowing says:

Too many otherwise redpilled people think like that. They rationalize everything the elite do.

I have seen where this thinking ultimately leads. It leads to thinking the elite are, in fact, right, and the goyim are stupid and deserve their fate.

It’s an insidious idea.

simplyconnected says:

Point taken. With that said, here’s what I think is happening, based on what they themselves are saying:
* they agree with Malthus’ premise, and conclude population must be culled, and if insufficiently culled must be under a “strong dictatorship” (Dennis Meadows)
* Club of Rome members have said if they have some control over the world then it’s their responsibility to take action at the level of whole planet (because individual countries won’t address the issues).

I neither agree with their premise nor with the way the intend to carry it out.
It is natural to attempt to understand what their plan is. One can then reach the conclusion that their plan is insane and evil. I don’t see the problem.

S says:

“* they agree with Malthus’ premise, and conclude population must be culled, and if insufficiently culled must be under a “strong dictatorship” (Dennis Meadows)”

They don’t believe that. They vax was aimed at whites and asians with below replacement tfr.

“* Club of Rome members have said if they have some control over the world then it’s their responsibility to take action at the level of whole planet (because individual countries won’t address the issues).”

That has existed in its current form for a while; the first world marches in lockstep with orders from AMerica.

simplyconnected says:

> They don’t believe that. They vax was aimed at whites and asians with below replacement tfr.

I can’t claim to understand these people, but I think they claim something to the effect that the west is the worst offender to the demons of CO2 and weather change.

The Cominator says:

The most hilariously wrong thing here (I sort of believe that the real elite is going to blame some managerial middlemen like the Jews for all their recent malignancy and failures) is the idea that Fauci is some sort of well intentioned boob.

FrankNorman says:

As opposed to him being an evil intentioned boob?

Kunning Drueger says:

Fauci is the ideal manager. You may not survive it, but he is what peak managerial management looks like.

Aidan says:

Reigniting a debate from an older thread, Swedish docility cannot be explained by the founder effect of the Vikings. Sweden had the highest rates of murder in the Middle Ages. I still blame Charles XII.

https://twitter.com/crimkadid/status/1615112273198215168

Pax Imperialis says:

Were the Vikings more docile or less docile than Middle Ages Swedes? Viking colonization clearly started a downward trend for those left behind. The Viking colonizers quickly integrated themselves among the conquered populations and lost the extended family structure. That indicates low levels of clannishness and high levels of individuality among the colonizers.

The Vikings weren’t dutiful soldiers selflessly sacrificing themselves for their people; they were mercenaries who, when it really came down to it, cared first and foremost for their own selfish gain.

Replace Vikings for English and you’ve got a good description of English trade companies.

Your link doesn’t show high rates of murder in Scandinavia, a form of individual violence. It shows high rates of death from clan based warfare by competing would be authorities under ritualized traditions that were respected and followed. This is selfless organized violence which requires submission to a higher authority and willingness to follow instruction, in other words docility. The Scandinavian problem being there were too many authorities in the same political culture space.

Your source also says:

Wergeld died out last in Scandinavia and this suggests that early modern Scandinavians must have been extremely immobile

Immobile indicates domestication.

It also says:

There is one place in medieval Europe where vendettas were very rare and this is in England.

The place that the Vikings were coincidentally most successful at colonizing.

Oog en Hand says:

“This is selfless organized violence which requires submission to a higher authority and willingness to follow instruction, in other words docility.”

The Taliban is docile…

Pax Imperialis says:

Yes.

Taliban members were ready to accept control or instruction to such an extent they were willing to strap on explosives and turn into pink mist. I would say that’s a good example of extreme submissiveness to Allah.

Aidan says:

Come on man, that’s just jewing over semantics. I don’t describe a people that engages in blood feuds as docile, period. We can say that Sweden became less individualistic from Viking founder effect, because immobile and tied to large extended families, but engaging in collective violence to solve local problems is exactly the kind of behavior I was talking about being bred out by Charles XII’s wars, and I presented clear evidence of it existing after the Vikings but before the great northern war.

Being disagreeable and having a tendency to defect does not map onto capacity to engage in violence. Plenty of cowardly little shits and sleazes who defect. Because these types are not captured in the system, today we correlate defection with violent crime, but the sneaky fucker was if anything more likely to end up dead in a ditch in medieval times.

Pax Imperialis says:

I’m not playing semantics. I think you’re getting tripped up by the word ‘docile’ and the connotation.

A lot of military training is centered around removing the individual such that they are able to subordinate self-interest to follow orders. Trained docility. I know it’s really hard to think of soldiers as docile, but that’s what they are. They freeze immediately when told to freeze. They shoot immediately when told to shoot. You are likely familiar with such behavior being described as highly disciplined, but look at the definition of disciplined (in the military sense) and see it’s very similar to docile.

Ok, so lets stop using the word ‘docile’ and use ‘disciplined’ in its place.

Individualism does not coexist well with discipline. They are nearly opposite but not quite. Both individualistic people and disciplined people are capable of collective violence, but the nature of the violence and the collective is very different.

It’s very hard to convince an individualistic cowboy to put on a suicide vest and blow himself up to attack the enemy. Much easier to convince a highly disciplined Japanese or Taliban member in contrast. Disciplined people are able to allow themselves be subsumed by the group’s desires against their own self interests. That is how you get blood feuds. Two groups of highly disciplined people locked in a tit for tat war. It’s not about the individual but the group. Individuals don’t do blood feuds. They do eye for an eye frontier justice and if need be will form a posse to carry it out. A posse is very different from a clan.

The Vikings were proto-cowboys. Individualistic, mercenary, bold, and adventurous. They were not a disciplined professional military. They were mobile bandits. That Sweden lost nearly all its Vikings to colonization means they lost nearly all their individualistic genes.

Charles XII’s wars were possible because the population that was left behind from colonization were the highly disciplined sorts required for line infantry warfare. That he nearly got all of them killed merely means the future generation was a combination of the surviving disciplined and cowards. What that looks like I suppose is people who will follow rules but will fight for nothing. In a modern nation where violence is theoretically cosigned to the dustbin of history, that means you have a bunch of docile model citizens. In practice it means suicide by Muslim immigration.

Kunning Drueger says:

Rectification of Memes
A successful warband has to be disciplined on some axis, otherwise they can’t accomplish things like sailing a ship or planning an ambush. Viking leaders controlled their longboat, and great Vikings controlled many longboats. There’s discipline in the mix whenever coordination is evidenced. I am not saying Vikings == Imperial Japanese Navy.

Red says:

Very few of the Japanese Suicide Pilots were volunteers. It was either do the mission or be executed for cowardice. Same thing with Banzai charges. The primary reason the Japans were so cruel to the people they captured was to ensure that Japanese troops could never surrender without being executed by the Americans.

The Japanese military was famously undisciplined and poorly coordinated at every level. During the attack on Midway the sub screen that was suppose to to watch for the carriers leaving Perl was left 2 days late and no one told Yamamoto or Nagumo that they were out of position.

Aidan says:

Now we’re getting somewhere. But I reject the premise of “individualism”. Higher testosterone actually makes men more cooperative with their ingroup, and Vikings, cowboys, mongols, waged warfare as a collective endeavor. The Bantu might have waged war as a “crowd of individuals” but the Viking did not. Refer to the shield wall.

We can certainly talk about having an adventurous disposition, the warrior versus the soldier, and that debate has been had many times, but contra BAP, the adventurous and ambitious man has to be very good at collective, not just individual, action, which also requires discipline. Cooperation versus defection is on a different axis from being adventurous versus a homebody.

The conscripted soldier is made docile and disciplined by military training over a few months. The born warrior is raised that way, trained his entire life to have that discipline. Cortez’ conquistadors were a gallery of criminals and rogues, always squabbling, but when they fought, perfect discipline. Discipline is not predictive of a man being unadventurous.

I am willing to accept that the Viking settlements drained Sweden of adventurousness, but the fact is that local clannish violence remained, and stopped after the GNW, which indicates that violence in general was bred out of the population, regardless of other factors.

Pax Imperialis says:

I’ve been meaning to get back to this conversation, but I’ve been having a slow burn conversation with a progressive Catholic theologian. Pretty disturbing mind fuckery going on.

>I reject the premise of “individualism”

Special Forces (which Vikings have been compared to), Wagner Group are clearly individualistic types that can cooperate and cooperate well. They are not disciplinarians squabbling over every single IP on their uniform nor how scruffy their beards are. That allows them time and cultural acceptance to find creative solutions that standard military can’t develop until they’ve attrited through several tens of thousands of men.

Maybe “individualism” isn’t quite the right word, I’m admittedly stumbling around in the dark to describe something that is sublime. I think there is something similar to start-up culture in these groups. They are not strictly warriors. Sort of like how there are warrior priests in military IC, Vikings and Special Forces are like warrior entrepreneurs(?) I’m not sure that’s quite right.

>Cortez’ conquistadors were a gallery of criminals and rogues, always squabbling, but when they fought, perfect discipline.

There’s a linguistic problem at work. Discipline is associated with perfectly bloused boots and cleanly shaved faces. Many would look at those men and see squalid rabble. Clearly they weren’t for they fought with high discipline. So there are two types of discipline.

S says:

The distinction is soldiers as automatons and with autonomy. 18th century Prussian soldiers and 20th century Prussian soldiers respectively. Soldiers who are expected to execute instructions precisely and ones who are expected to use individual judgement and initiative on the battlefield.

Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

The man who can be trusted to act alone and the man who can be trusted to lead others is basically the same man. The quality you are looking for is natural nobility; high world-formation capacity, low time preference, emotional continence.

i says:

Those who can never grasp the bigger picture have no capacity to rise in rank.

pinochet's ghost says:

I’m unsure Swedes are docile. They’re just herd creatures. If the herd tells them to slaughter you, they will do so without regard to you.

Same as Japanese. Are they the same people as in the WWII? Biologically yes

Although the Swedish death rate in wars in Germany and Russia was much proportionally higher, doesn’t matter as much when the man has left five children behind with the wife on the farm while the draft dodger got executed. Were draft dodgers actually the more re-productively successful?

Of course in “1-2 kid at age 35” world of today, such a war would destroy much warrior male genetics.

jim says:

> Of course in “1-2 kid at age 35” world of today, such a war would destroy much warrior male genetics.

For a social order to survive, needs sons. For sons, needs virgin marriage at reasonable age – as soon as the man is earning a steady income, and as soon as the woman is capable of bearing children without detrimental consequences.

In the long run, clown world will fall to such people. I hope and pray for this to happen in a considerably shorter run. Taliban succeeded, but they had a foreign backer.

Taliban was, however, completely willing to fight for centuries, that was their backup plan.

chris says:

You should read “The Past is a Future Country” by Edward Dutton / theJollyHeretic

http://libgen.rs/book/index.php?md5=F81FE063DC31A846260703FF54E52397

It’s a quick read and he goes through the current selection pressures and fertility rates and how in the long run clown world will fall to such people.

Kunning Druegger says:

I find that man’s simpering affect unlistenable, but he’s absolutely brilliant and /ourguy/ in academia, far more based than Academic Agent, who is no slouch. I need to read his books, but every time I listen to Dutton talk, I start cheering for the Sepoys.

Interesting theory, but how do you explain how suffered a similar level of casualties in WWI without being docilized in the same way.

Sorry for the typo. Referring to Serbia.

IGnatius T Foobar says:

> “Covid viruses have been around since forever,”

I think you mean coronaviruses. The china-engineered and obama-funded “covid” virus is one of many coronaviruses.

jim says:

Nah, I mean Covid. There are tons of Corona viruses, and many, many, of them are Covid viruses.

Yul Bornhold says:

None of you understand the nuances of conservative Christian bluepill on the WQ. I was there. I’ll tell you.

CC do not understand woman’s sexual nature. They do understand the broader secular/popular idea of casual sex/hookup culture/serial monogamy/partners*/etc as an attack upon Christianity.

CCs reject the Hollywood/Playboy idea that women just want to be sluts and sleep around casually because they can see it’s not true. (And, truly, women do not want to casually sleep around with just any guy. They want sex with hot alphas and is serious business to them, not casual. Women very selective.)

CCs fight back against Playboy bluepill with Victorian bluepill. From redpill perspective, bviously doomed to failure. Victorian bluepill collapsed into Playboy bluepill. Second stage of a failure mode.

Since I was involved in CC circles, has probably gotten a lot worse but I no longer have first hand info. Point is that CCs are trying to fight promiscuity by elevating (worshiping) women. (See Dalrock.) They have no conception of redpill. You try to tell them and they can only filter it through Playboy bluepill. They will not be able to understand what you’re saying, much less disagree. It’s not that they’re shills. It’s that they lack the necessary conceptual framework.

And this, in turn, comes from the notion of equality. They believe that women are equal to men. Not surprising. Protestantism, and democratic government for that matter, are predicated on egalitarianism. In the same way as democratic government has over time jettisoned more and more of its unprincipled exceptions, expanding the franchise to blacks, women, etc.; so has Protestantism over time become more and more devoted to universal equality. We go from John Knox’s FIRST BLAST OF THE TRUMPET AGAINST THE MONSTROUS REGIMENT OF WOMEN to conservative dad’s being SO PROUD of their daughters joining the military.

This kind of thinking has, of course, spread to Catholicism, Orthodoxy and other non-Protestant forms of Christianity. It’s like the Czar instituting democratic governance in the form of the Duma. He doesn’t realize he’s admitted an alien memeplex that will destroy him in the end.

Yul Bornhold says:

What we can call the based memeplex, originates on the internet. It comes from PUA, gamers, demi-jews inventing new ideologies in the garage, etc. It does not come from Christians.

However, individual Christians, young men, privately and independently examine these ideas. They find, for example, that the redpill on WQ is emphatically not the same as what I earlier called the Playboy bluepill. More importantly, the redpill agrees with or is at least very similar to historical Christian teachings that the young Christians were previously unable to comprehend. They realize that egalitarianism is an alien graft to Christianity.

In my case, I converted to Orthodoxy for theological reasons, not because it was based. However, I’ve found that substantial amounts of male converts share the same internet-memeplex culture. If someone says “repeal the 19th,” everyone else will immediately understand him and find the statement amusing. Obviously, there’s a selective bias to this kind of cultural formation.

But even the “repeal the 19th” guys suffer from significant and lingering elements of bluepill. Jim-Aidan are the only thinkers who have laid out the necessary redpill complete and unabridged. People on twitter like Zero HP understand it but they can only summarize and propagandize. They can’t lay it out full-form for consideration.

Anonymous says:

It’s that they lack the necessary conceptual framework.

Seen first hand in the Spank Your Wife blogger’s discussion with Jim and co.

BobtheBuilder says:

Link? I want to see this.

jim says:

> They have no conception of redpill. You try to tell them and they can only filter it through Playboy bluepill. They will not be able to understand what you’re saying, much less disagree. It’s not that they’re shills. It’s that they lack the necessary conceptual framework.

The necessary conceptual framework is right there in the Old Testament, and is cheerfully referenced and summarized in the New Testament by Peter and Paul. Which summary used to be preached at every marriage. Woman was made as a helpmeet for man. And the meaning of this rather cryptic statement is clarified at length, at considerable length, by a multitude of Old Testament laws and stories about women.

Why is this a problem? I do not understand that they do not understand. We had coverture, which would make the Taliban blush, not so very long ago.

I seem to just get away with confidently expressing the Christian position as I understand it, and just don’t seem to run into any cuckservative Christian pushback. Maybe a sense of cognitive dissonance causes cuckservative Christians to shy away from such discussion and evade it. Maybe they do not hear me because of doublethink and cognitive dissonance. But whatever the reason, zero Christian pushback. Some cucked orthodox Jewish pushback, we have had in this blog two Jews telling me that the twenty first century Orthodox Jewish position is ancient.

I was talking in real life with a Roman Catholic priest, who proudly told me how the Roman Catholic Church cucked out shortly after it broke from Orthodox Christianity (Or as he saw it, Orthodox Christianity broke from the Pope) I then proceeded to express the Christian position on women. I felt his dismay, but got no pushback.

Jehu says:

If you’re talking to Christians who actually know their Bible, they’re not pushing back because they know you’re right. They know damned well what a straightforward reading of Paul and Jesus and Moses says about men and women. They’re just afraid to say it themselves. Many are even afraid to think it themselves.

Adam says:

After talking the the priest, did you get the vibe “He knows, I know he knows, he knows I know he knows”? As in he was not a true believer but in fact completely aware of his con?

I wonder how many in the priesthood start true believers, very blue and purple pilled, and upon a mid-life reflection come to realize their understanding and their teaching is false, their organization is corrupt, and decide to use their position to take advantage of the next generation of unsuspecting believers.

jim says:

> after talking the the priest, did you get the vibe …

I got a feeling consistent with Jehu’s account of the problem. The Roman Catholic Priest knew the Christian position was true, and the Roman Catholic position false, but could not say what he knew, or even think what he knew. He did not push back because his mind froze up.

Oog en Hand says:

It could be well that the posiition of Paul is compatible with the Roman model of thirty-something men marrying young teenage virgins, but that is NOT what outbred the Roman Pagans. Consider the possibility that a Post-Christian religion, i.e. Roman Catholicism defeated both Roman and Germanic Paganism. ALL deviations from the Pauline model by Roman Catholics seem to be designed NOT to fall in the demographic trap of the Roman Empire.

Note: the Saxons e.a. could not discover the Post-Christian nature of Charlemagne because they did not know Latin. Even then, Charlemagne used a lot of cyphers in order to prevent Saxons from reading Frankish stuff.

FrankNorman says:

It’s been my understanding that Charlemagne himself could not read or write.

Oog en Hand says:

He learned to read in adulthood. He liked to read Civitate Dei. Anyway, if it wasn’t him, his clerks certainly used cyphers like Vehmic and Westphalian.

FrankNorman says:

Because the idea that anything the RCC has been teaching for centuries could be just flat wrong is thoughtcrime to him?

jim says:

RCC position on womem, marriage, the marital sacrament, and children is just flat wrong, and simply undeniably wrong. He cannot deny it, but neither can he acknowledge it.

BobtheBuilder says:

What specifically is the RCC wrong about on this matter? I know you’ve complained about the six months before marriage waiting period, but I’ve been at a TLM recently and saw women in headscarves with 3-4 children.

Adam says:

They act as if the authority of husbands and fathers really means priestly and female authority, and that authority itself is morally dependent on the consent of the subordinate. Unless of course they are talking about priestly and female authority, in which case you should just do as you are told, bigot.

Yul Bornhold says:

“Why is this a problem? I do not understand that they do not understand.”

It’s analogous to conservative normie perception of monarchism. A king is “authoritarian” and therefore leftist. The normie reads into a superficial similarity. Likewise, the conservative Christian sees the redpill thesis “women have promiscuous instinct and desire sex” and he immediately filters into a playboy bluepill attack “You are oppressing women by suppressing their natural and healthy instinct. Just let them be sluts you bigot.”

I have seen a number of Christians asserting that wives should submit to their husbands but it turns into a weird larpy thing because they also think it’s perfectly natural for a husband to dump all his cares and concerns on his wife like she’s his mother. How can you lead your wife if you get hysterical over her doing something you dislike? Bizarre mommy purplepill I guess.

Red says:

The concept of ownership is also foreign to the modern McChristain. Talking about owning wives and children cause them to brain freeze from thought crime prevention.

The Cominator says:

By elevating women they DID curtail promiscuity somewhat but it made things much worse. Curtailing promiscuity by elevating the status of women doesn’t get us back to the 1950s it gets us masses of fat lesbian larpers.

“And, truly, women do not want to casually sleep around with just any guy. They want sex with hot alphas and is serious business to them, not casual. Women very selective.”

Women mostly follow ancient instincts subconsciously when it comes to sex, what they consciously want is generally opaque vague transient and ethereal. There are exceptions to this but it doesn’t disprove the rule.

Red says:

And this, in turn, comes from the notion of equality. They believe that women are equal to men. Not surprising. Protestantism, and democratic government for that matter, are predicated on egalitarianism. In the same way as democratic government has over time jettisoned more and more of its unprincipled exceptions, expanding the franchise to blacks, women, etc.; so has Protestantism over time become more and more devoted to universal equality. We go from John Knox’s FIRST BLAST OF THE TRUMPET AGAINST THE MONSTROUS REGIMENT OF WOMEN to conservative dad’s being SO PROUD of their daughters joining the military.

Exactly right. I’ve seen this is so many McChristains.

Jimmy says:

Nailed it. Absolutely. And the replies have fleshed it out. The only way I’ve seen this programming broken is when non-Christian pua memes are imported by a high-intelligence biblically literate and skeptical man, then re-fit into his biblical model. It fits like a key in a lock. You can almost see this guy emit a mental sigh of relief when it all clicks. This is a hilarious miracle and is therefore obviously a work of God. It’s enough to make one optimistic about the future of the Church.

i says:

And this, in turn, comes from the notion of equality. They believe that women are equal to men. Not surprising. Protestantism, and democratic government for that matter, are predicated on egalitarianism. In the same way as democratic government has over time jettisoned more and more of its unprincipled exceptions, expanding the franchise to blacks, women, etc.; so has Protestantism over time become more and more devoted to universal equality. We go from John Knox’s FIRST BLAST OF THE TRUMPET AGAINST THE MONSTROUS REGIMENT OF WOMEN to conservative dad’s being SO PROUD of their daughters joining the military.

This kind of thinking has, of course, spread to Catholicism, Orthodoxy and other non-Protestant forms of Christianity. It’s like the Czar instituting democratic governance in the form of the Duma. He doesn’t realize he’s admitted an alien memeplex that will destroy him in the end.

Protestantism isn’t fundamentally egalitarian. The Scriptures aren’t egalitarian so why should the faith?

Egalitarianism simply infected them first.

“Manichean” heresies–the Cathars, Albigenses, Petrobrusians (from the eleventh to the fourteenth centuries) weren’t Protestant:
http://robertlstephens.com/essays/shafarevich/001SocialistPhenomenon.html#pagestart_67

But note that God helped the English Reformation survives by inflicting freak storms on the Spanish Armada on the way to subjugate Britain to Catholicism.

Yul Bornhold says:

“Protestantism isn’t fundamentally egalitarian. The Scriptures aren’t egalitarian so why should the faith?”

Luther. Priesthood of all believers.

Luther didn’t like it but his theology immediately spawned peasant rebellion. Then you had various freakish anabaptist movements, parliament beheading royal martyr Charles and instituting a British republic.

You have Christ’s parable of the rich man scheming to tear down his barns to build bigger barns but dying the same night. This is about the transience (“vanity” in KJV english) of mortal life but you constantly get left-wingers, like that woman interviewer who made Jordan Peterson famous, saying “so Christ says we should eat the rich?”

But in light of the reformers explicit rejection of the formal priesthood, don’t think it’s unfair to say there’s something egalitarian in the DNA of protestantism. Obviously, that’s not to say that 18th century Anglicanism is the same as the BLM lesbiarch church.

jim says:

Priesthood of all believers is movement left. If one movement left is successful, a stampede further left immediately follows, to Luther’s horror.

Apostolic succession is true – but apostolic succession solely through Peter (Rome’s position) is obviously false, because Paul was not through Peter, leadership of the early Church was collegial, and because the Bishop of Rome was inferior to the Patriarch of Constantinople.

Apostolic succession is that anyone with apostolic succession can grant someone else apostolic succession, which corresponds to the anarchic polity of the middle ages, where knights were responsible for order (and disorder) and only knights could keep and bear costly and highly effective military equipment – but any knight could make another man a knight. There seems to have been a strong linkage between the rise of Christianity and the rise of feudalism, with Christianity bearing a causal connection to feudalism, and feudal Kings spreading Christianity at swordpoint. Christianity caused feudalism, and feudal Kings spread Christianity. The anarchy of feudalism mitigated the despotism of the imperium. Your local knight could shove you around, but he, at least, was a local. You were not being screwed by a distant bureaucracy.

Correspondingly, priesthood of all believers and democracy (not that Luther was a fan of democracy).

Well, democracy has reached end of shelf life.

Priesthood of all believers is obviously true, in that every man should be high priest and King under his own roof, and also false, in that only a few should receive apostolic succession. Now that the time of democracy and Republics is over, apostolic succession needs to matter. But at the same time, in a time of chaos and moral degeneracy, highly centralized systems of apostolic succession are likely to be corrupt or become corrupted.

Historical analogs fail. We have been hoping we are Rome, fearing we are Carthage. The sacrifice of the children foreshadows the fate of Carthage.

I have been hoping, rather, for Assyria. As all the Bronze age states around it were overrun, and Assyria was very nearly overrun and retreated into its heartland, it corrected its moral degeneracy and survived the collapse of Bronze Age civilization.

The Cominator says:

The priesthood of all believers was a reaction to

1) The corrupt evil fake and gay Catholic Priesthood

2) The more legitimate Orthodox priesthood was mostly under Ottoman control at the time and Moscow was so far off the beaten path as to be considered semi mythical in Western Europe and even if Luther wanted to discuss going Orthodox (he did I believe entertain the idea once) Tsar Ivan’s information about Luther came from Jesuits in Moscow and he was as a result hostile

So Priesthood of all believers was the pretty inevitable result.

Oog en Hand says:

“I have been hoping, rather, for Assyria. As all the Bronze age states around it were overrun, and Assyria was very nearly overrun and retreated into its heartland, it corrected its moral degeneracy and survived the collapse of Bronze Age civilization.”

We read in the Bible about Phoenicia and Aram, a state built around Damascus. What about them? Was Phrygia the Iron Age successor of the Bronze Age Hittites? Even the Greeks remembered the Bronze Age Illiad well into Iron Age times, so literacy doesn’t seem to be crucial to remembering things.

Red says:

A lot of tech was lost during the bronze age collapse.

i says:

Luther. Priesthood of all believers.

Biblically true. But said Priesthood of all believers is still Hierarchical. There are still Bishops/overseers and Deacons with unique qualifications.

On the other hand it hands more responsibility on individual believers to be far more than simple receive and command NPCs:
https://socialpathology.blogspot.com/2019/10/the-wages-of-monophorism.html

Protestants especially Evangelicals have held more firm on sodomy compared to Orthodox/Catholic laity:
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-pAmrqTLAjZo/Xbg8DoPPnjI/AAAAAAAABcc/ayg8yhdwDVkHh70Qi9Az3iYQUaTLdlCWACLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/Screen%2BShot%2B2019-10-29%2Bat%2B11.37.05%2Bpm.png

Red says:

Protestants especially Evangelicals have held more firm on sodomy compared to Orthodox/Catholic laity:

They failed harder on the Women Question than the Orthodox and Catholics. The left was working different angles with each group and the woman question is far more important than the Faggot Question. These days Evangelicals are starting to fail hard on the Faggot Question and are unable to call out groomers.

i says:

Personally I don’t get that. Don’t they have the Word of God?

Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

The argument was against the idea that only the roman bishop could interpret scripture, but the argument used for that was the idea that everyone in general is equally capable of interpreting scripture, which quickly began going wrong in all the usual ways.

i says:

On the other hand it allows the Laity to stand against the Apostasy of the Bishops.

Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

An effective stand against the apostasy of false de jure bishops itself requires organization by true de facto bishops.

The nominalistic argument doesn’t just cut against the prospect of an effective replacement, it cuts against the prospect of even getting to that point at all.

Double-edged swords never cut both ways equally; the condition of chaos aturally favors creatures of chaos; you might demonstrate in your galaxybrain substack essay how the supposed equalitarian/voluntarian order is in fact inveterately coercive and hierarchical in its own way too (like everything ever in some way or another in history), but of course their whole precis is denying that fact in the first place. If the watchword is no Gods, Kings, or Masters, then naturally power goes to that which is most deceptive with respect to its mastery.

jim says:

The time has come for the priesthood of all believers to be drastically mitigated by apostolic succession. Just as the time has come again for aristocratic warrior governance.

However, the Papist claim that apostolic succession runs solely through Peter is historically false, and immediately led to disaster, heresy, and rivers of blood. Any one with apostolic succession can grant another apostolic succession, just as any knight can make a knight.

There is an inevitable tradeoff between disaster though lack of Gods, Kings, and Masters, and disaster through having a central point of failure. You need someone privileged to make one decision for all, to avoid chaos, but you also need to handle the case he turns evil or just stops functioning. This is what makes Byzantine fault tolerant decision making systems unavoidably slow, complicated, inefficient, and difficult to comprehend. You need to be able to remedy failure of the centre without resulting in failure though inability find an authoritative centre.

alf says:

Way I see it, you want the medieval strategy of priests and warriors, or plan and leaders.

If the plan is good enough, it can survive a couple of bad leaders. Out of the 80 emperors Rome had, how many were actually good at their job? Ten, twenty, thirty at tops? But their underlying faith was strong enough, so they could take a couple of hits.

i says:

An effective stand against the apostasy of false de jure bishops itself requires organization by true de facto bishops.

The model has already been provided by the New Testament and has been implemented. Trouble is such positions are still capturable to the enemy.

Double-edged swords never cut both ways equally; the condition of chaos naturally favors creatures of chaos; you might demonstrate in your galaxybrain substack essay how the supposed equalitarian/voluntarian order is in fact inveterately coercive and hierarchical in its own way too (like everything ever in some way or another in history), but of course their whole precis is denying that fact in the first place. If the watchword is no Gods, Kings, or Masters, then naturally power goes to that which is most deceptive with respect to its mastery.

Equipping more people with the “Sword of the Spirit” in similar ways that Jesus wielded the Scriptures against the attacks of the Devil in the Wilderness.

This would tend to increase the capabilities of those existing. Bishops of course are meant to be “Sword-Masters” compared to the rest of the congregation. But each gets training.

A more powerful servant makes a better servant. The Special Forces have far more agency to execute the Mission than regular army-men. They are still under Authority. And they themselves are by no means an Egalitarian group.

Less NPC like. Protestantism seeks to increase the capabilities of all in the Spiritual War. And entrusting more people with greater agency to accomplish the Mission set my our Master Jesus Christ. Sola Scriptura is towards that end.

But by no means is Hierarchy ever abolished. The Priesthood of all believers is the literal truth(1 Peter 2:9). Since all believers have access to the Throne room of God via Prayer.

So are all believers Priests.

jim says:

Yes, priesthood of all believers has plenty of scriptural support. So, however does apostolic succession through bishops.

Protestant Churches without apostolic succession through Bishops obviously have a problem with anarchy. But Churches with apostolic succession through Bishops suffer similar or worse doctrinal innovation, and the problem with their centralised authority is that it is likely to be captured by enemies of the faith, as with Roman Catholicism and Anglicanism.

As I said before you need to avoid both the anarchy problem, you need the capability for one man to make one decision for all, but you also need to avoid the single point of failure problem.

Our solutions to this in the computing field are subtle and tricky, and they all have the characteristic that most of the time one entity makes one decision for all, and there is no problem, and everything goes smoothly, but some of the time, an authoritative decision needs to be made, and it is not, or worse, several entities each make conflicting decisions that each claim and believe is authoritative. In the latter case, it eventually becomes apparent that one was authoritative and the others were not, but it may take quite a while before this becomes apparent. Solutions in the computer field are a trade off where if reduce the likelihood of forks, at the cost of increasing the likelihood that no decision will be made, and deal with the possibility that conflicting decisions will be made by mechanisms to heal the split, by eventually ditching one decision, and going with the other.

alf says:

I think you are correct to leave the answer somewhat open. Let people figure it out for themselves, let different factions compete.

The protestants have always been correct in their core critique of catholicism, but lacking a plan, they were unable to withstand creeping entropy among their ranks.

Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

Earlier down post, Pax asked: ” Heredity science, the precursor to evolutionary science, originated from monastic Christian science. Christianity is not counter to evolutionary theory and much of the Bible is inline with hereditary principles. So how did some parts of American Christianity come to “refuse to countenance the idea of evolution?” “.

The answer, shortly, is cognitive capture. Occupation of social high ground by whigs, who took over organs of the unofficial state church – in absence of an official state church – and through this, took the shine of all the theretofore extant ‘smart kids clubs’ of society.

Thus, all the self-selecting ‘brights’ would get infected by daemonic mind viruses, and quickly move on to signaling the trappings of their new faith instead; which by coincidence left the only groups in America that would unashamedly signal their Christianity as those who were outside proximity to power in general, and organs of theocracy in particular – which of course is something with a significant preselection effect.

Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

The whig of course does not actually place any value in the teachings of Saint Darwin at all; but he superficially associated himself with – and arrogated responsibility for – the good works of great men, even as he hates them and all that makes them possible; which could often lead to others incautiously rejecting the body of that which lived, instead of that which the whig killed and wore as a skinsuit.

Red says:

Off topic:

Not only did the married men allegedly rape the two boys who were adopted through a Christian special-needs adoption agency, they were pimping out their children to nearby pedophiles in Atlanta-area suburbs, Townhall’s follow-up investigation discovered.

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/miacathell/2023/01/17/zulock-case-pt-1-n2618219

https://archive.ph/wIRDg

A2 says:

Zachary insisted in a separate phone call: “All I can say is, you know, it’s not all true. That’s all I can say.”
“I need someone in the family who doesn’t hate me. So, I mean, I can’t tell you what to feel or—I can’t cry right now around other people,” Zachary pleaded in lock-up, audibly starting to sob on the phone. “I just need somebody who doesn’t hate us!” he cried.
“Just don’t forget me,” Zachary beseeched the relative at the end of their first call in September.

It is difficult to express the full extent of my disgust and contempt. The verdict would be quick and obvious outside Evil Clownworld.

The similar case in Australia, “Two dads are better than one”, ended homo adoption of Russian children. Thank you Vladimir Putin.

Kunning Druegger says:

This case is getting far more traction than I expected. Look at it in light of the Car-A-Lago pseudo-scandal, and it is becoming more obvious that there is a series of fractures in the Consensus Class of the Cathedral. Their dysgenic, Bioleninist games have made them incredibly susceptible to unforced errors, own-goals, and destabilization. But they have completely neutered the Acceptable Right in the bureaucracy as well as the discourse, so they have a ton of runway and room to maneuver. If there was anyone intelligent and independent on the Right, they’d be seizing power in small ways. I still think DeSantis is not /ourguy/,and is in fact /theirguy/, but his move on seizing a university is… puzzling. Time will tell if it’s a lark, but if it is but one of a series of moves towards institutional capture, I may be incorrect in my assessment of him.

The silver lining is that, with the track we are on, opportunities for real coups and PvP minecraft with benefits will become more prevalent, not less, but it is a very dark storm cloud, because the Antifa handlers and behind-the-scenes operators will have the same range of opportunities in addition to the ability to fund and coordinate initiatives.

And, to be perfectly clear about the human side of this tragic affair, I really wish I could vaxx&boost every single person who is even remotely connected to these sodomites. But men of the reaction must not turn away from the disgusting, evil things being done in shadow as well as the light of day, and we must accept that for every roach you see, there are scores more you don’t.

They are devouring children, and we are forced to watch.

notglowing says:

> I really wish I could vaxx&boost every single person
Really got a chuckle out of me. We need to spread this as a shibboleth and as a way to evade censorship; the new version of killing someone in minecraft, but funnier and more offensive to our enemies.

> If there was anyone intelligent and independent on the Right, they’d be seizing power in small ways.

> moves towards institutional capture

The problem is this is effectively impossible. At least, I don’t see how it could be done.
You can’t just try to take a little power, because if you do, they will immediately take notice, and use the entirety of their power to crush you.

This is why revolutions don’t work. Building power only works in secret or in a way that is somehow outside the USG’s reach.
If you capture an institution, they will immediately discredit it, and then discredit and relentlessly attack anyone who decides to ignore the ostracism.

It worked when *they* did it, because the powers that be ignored them at the time. They are very much paranoid of the same being done to them, paranoid to the point of mental illness, often hitting people who aren’t even really against them.

Red says:

There was a man who heard there was a big prize to anyone who lived long enough to take 5 boosters. He got his 5th and 30 minutes later he got his prize.

Kunning Druegger says:

Disagree. They are violating Frederick the Great’s axiom: He who defends everywhere, defends nowhere. It is precisely because they are trying to do everything at once that the opportunities for our side to do anything increase. If you can’t find targets, you aren’t looking small enough.

I think one issue here is that everyone on the Right is convinced that the choice is between Winning Bigly or Losing. But there are so many local newspapers floundering, small scale government elections with barely hundreds of participants & unopposed candidates, businesses failing due to sheer incompetence. One thing the Left was very good at was convincing their adherents that no act of rebellion was too small to consider doing. this works in favor of Chaos, and Order requires actual order, not just dissent, but creating a verifiable pocket of order will contribute to Order. We need more patience and optimism.

Anon says:

“but creating a verifiable pocket of order will contribute to Order. We need more patience and optimism.”

This is false.
One thing moldbug talked about, is big change like overthrowing power like the cathedral is hard but small thing like getting rid of the fbi is impossible.
Any pocket of “order” in fundamentally anarchic oligarchy is unprincipled exception soon to be revoked.

Kunning Drueger says:

“the asteroid is soooo big, that it doesn’t matter how deep you dig, we’re all going to be destroyed”

In actuality, rodents and creatures that were just a foot and a few inches below ground survived the K/T event. 100% enforcement never works. I’m not asserting that it’s easy, but those that manage to create and sustain pockets of order will be better off when the inevitable collapse ensues. This concept is mirrored by the Prepper’s Paradox: the more prepared you are, the fewer friends you’ll have; the fewer friends you have, the less prepared you are.

It is better to run the risk of being noticed than doing nothing to build society, however small the ambition may be.

jim says:

You are not going to get anywhere playing games run by our enemies. These are a meaningless spectacle to create the illusion of participation in governance.

We might well get somewhere creating a private military company, or a Church that enforces patriarchy and chastity on women, but rather obviously such institutions are likely to attract an extreme response from our enemies – you are going to get wacoed.

As the state religion hollows out, as everyone ceases to believe, such projects become more feasible, but remain extremely dangerous.

You are not going to have a wife and family without taking bold risks individually, and you are not going to get anywhere in institution building without taking risks that look to me far more dangerous.

Kunning Druegger says:

I floated the idea of forming a Private Security Company here last year, and, with a few exceptions, the response was more of the “impossible” “can’t be done” “all is lost” black pilling.

We are facing big problems, so the tendency is to seek big solutions. This is the Armchair General Complex, as in “wars are won by brilliant campaigns and master strokes.” Victory is the inevitable result of many small successes, and these happen through initiative and boldness at the lowest levels. Of course the higher levels matter, but a brilliant captain is worthless without good lieutenants, wise sergeants, and dependable privates.

Building resilient community fabric is not a waste of time or pointless endeavor. It is a necessary prerequisite for bigger successes down the road. I am advocating that men do simple, little things in a local environment to raise their status, connect with valuable people, and exploit chaos and breakdown of the Great Society.

If we men of good will sit on the sidelines, shaking our heads and smirking in derision, when opportunities arise (and they will arise) we will be left without options as lesser men with friends and social cache are able to convince a room full of men to follow and believe them.

I’m not talking about establishing a compound or starting a religion. I’m talking about getting connected at your church or gym, making friends and being engaging, becoming a source of humor and advice. These are the nuts and bolts of social mosaic. Opportunities will arise, and the right man getting elected or appointed to a crypto-powerful position in county government can accomplish far more than someone sitting in their man cave worrying over the absence of a Caesar.

There’s a difference between a sniper holding still under cover and a warrior staying in camp because he refuses to risk being attacked. Both are a form of “doing nothing.”

notglowing says:

> But there are so many local newspapers floundering, small scale government elections with barely hundreds of participants & unopposed

And they do stuff like pay nobodies such as J@red H0lt to listen to every single right wing podcast with 10 viewers, then report and write hit pieces on them.

The thing is, it’s easy to observe how even small acts of heresy are dealt with on the internet. In real life, you might survive for longer, but the consequences of getting busted are greater.

As soon as you become important enough to pay attention to, you are done for.

The way I see it, you have 3 options:
1. Hide your actions (not easy, especially if you are trying to gain influence in the first place)
2. Have support of a foreign power or some equally independent and powerful entity
3. Wait for the effectiveness of globohomo enforcement to wane in some manner sufficient to give you breathing room. Perhaps parts of the country will be out of reach or their law enforcement and surveillance apparatus dismantled due to incompetence.

The problem with #3 is that what tends to happen is the anarcho-tyrannical government is unable to ensure law and order normally, but still has the willingness and force to crush anyone who tries to create order or challenge its power.

Right now the only course of action is to remain disorganized and decentralized while trying to spread our ideas as far as possible. This comes with its own issues, as we have discussed before, lack of coordination not only leads to inaction but also to ideological confusion and weakness to shill narratives.

But even with shill narratives and all that, there are more people who know the truth today than there were before. The whitepill is that opposition to the regime is not dying in the minds of people, even as it is dismantled in the institutions.

Starman says:

@notglowing

“The problem is this is effectively impossible. At least, I don’t see how it could be done.
You can’t just try to take a little power, because if you do, they will immediately take notice, and use the entirety of their power to crush you.”

It becomes very very possible if you can sink aircraft carriers and the brahmins have no idea how it became possible to do so.

jim says:

Sinking aircraft carriers is not effective. You have to be able to give one bureaucrat a swimming lesson in the Pacific, and another bureaucrat a promotion.

Duterte could and did hand out swimming lessons in the Pacific, but still had difficulty controlling promotions.

Starman says:

@jim

“Sinking aircraft carriers is not effective.”

Without the aircraft carrier battlegroups, the FBI is just another dinky private militia.

Starman says:

@jim

“You have to be able to give one bureaucrat a swimming lesson in the Pacific, and another bureaucrat a promotion.”

You put the Navy officers with their aircraft carriers at the bottom of the Pacific. Then you promote your techpriests, whose Rods-From-God put those Navy officers at the bottom of the Pacific.

jim says:

OK. You now have a coup. So you can now get started on the coup complete problem of actually governing the country. Which as Augustus Caesar and Duterte discovered is a hard problem.

S says:

Augustus’s problem was a general overthrowing him; controlling rods from god make that less relevant.

Duterte had issue with promotions of civil servants. Fortunately the answer is obvious- no civil servants, no problem.

Starman says:

@ S says

“Fortunately the answer is obvious- no civil servants, no problem.”

A lot of USG bureaucracy simply doesn’t need any replacements.

Just like this superfluous Twitter employee.

notglowing says:

I mean, if you can casually sink aircraft carriers, you already have the power to oppose the USG.
Having a well organized militia and being able to carry out attacks of that scale undetected is a coup complete problem.

But, meanwhile, doing as little as having organized shitposting on the internet with friends is enough to draw the eye of Sauron to you.

Maybe someone will be manage nonetheless. It just seems really difficult to me.

Starman says:

@notglowing

“I mean, if you can casually sink aircraft carriers, you already have the power to oppose the USG.
Having a well organized militia and being able to carry out attacks of that scale undetected is a coup complete problem.”

The jew brahmin ruling class has zero comprehension on the state of space travel today.

And it is not just the ruling brahmins either. Those of the same brahmin social caste here, on Zman’s Blog, and elsewhere are unable to comprehend it.

Telling them that Elon’s massive Starlink constellation can destroy every military satellite is incomprehensible to them, even after you tell them why. And that power is right now.

Their conception of space travel is still stuck in 2011, where the ULA is the prime US launch provider, and Rods From God is the “US military’s Worst Idea” and aircraft carriers are invincible.

notglowing says:

I recently watched that video, and I was somewhat skeptical that it was unfeasible.
Though we don’t actually know if the USG thinks that way, it’s a youtuber’s opinion.

Why do you think this is better than ICBMs, and worth the difficult engineering?

Aiming these rods from god is not easy.

Red says:

Why do you think this is better than ICBMs, and worth the difficult engineering?

Time to target is almost nothing. No warning, no way to intercept it, no fallout. Orbit is the ultimate high ground, but it requires cheap space flight to make it useful.

Starman says:

@notglowing

”Aiming these rods from god is not easy.”

Elon Musk’s SpaceX routinely lands Mach 7-10 boosters on rolling barges in the middle of the ocean, a task that is much harder than crashing into a target at hypersonic velocity.

jim says:

> If there was anyone intelligent and independent on the Right, they’d be seizing power in small ways.

You cannot seize power in small ways. Been there, done that, several decades ago, not going to report because it is boring and complicated. It is all coup complete.

You are held down by a mass of tiny threads, like Gulliver in lilliput. You cannot take power because it is all in the hands of the permanent bureaucracy and they are not letting go.

You face the problems that Trump faced, you face the problems that Jim Hacker faced in “Yes Minister”.

Unless you have the means, capability, and will to minecraft members of the permanent government, power is just not in reach.

Duterte did have that means, capability, and will, and succeeded in Davao, but when he became president in the Philippines, still failed. It took Caesar Augustus, a very smart hard working man with complete authority to minecraft anyone, something like twelve to eighteen years to get Rome under control, and Duterte did not have twelve to eighteen years.

Not only is the problem coup complete, but even if the coup is successful, and you are giving difficult bureaucrats swimming lessons in the Pacific, it still a very difficult problem.

The Cominator says:

RE Augustus no the problem he had was that he had to minecraft everyone who was against another Caesar (or didn’t want it to be him) and THAT took a long time.

Once it was done he took on a far more benevolent aspect for most of his career. Caesar “Augustus” almost never killed anyone outside of the normal ponderous legal processes for things that were actually crimes, Gaius Octavius Julius Caesar Divii Filius did a full Sulla like purge of any of his enemies that fell into his hand (well he spared Lepidus but only to humiliate him constantly).

Anonymous Fake says:

[*deleted*]the winning strategy for the right is [*total submission to a hostile enemy priesthood*]

jim says:

Universities exist to inculcate the elite in the state religion. That has always been their function, and always will be their function.

“Academic merit” is adherence to the state religion, and if you select for those with the greatest academic merit, you are going to get a holiness spiral. We don’t want people of enemy faiths occupying state or quasi state office, but neither to we want to redistribute too much wealth from those that create it to those that are holier than thou.

We don’t academic merit to matter for private sector jobs, and while adherence to the official faith is important for state and quasi state office, other forms of merit matter a lot more for high level state and quasi state jobs. You don’t want enemy entryists (the Anglican acceptance of “occasional observance” turned into a catastrophe for England) but if you have too much reliance on “academic merit” you have a holiness spiral, and if you have a holiness spiral, you create your own enemy entryists.

When the Anglicans allowed “occasional observers” into state and quasi state office, that had the beneficial and desirable result that the state had access to the talents of people where not religious and disinclined to fake it too hard, but the disastrous result that people who only turned up at Anglican religious service once in a blue moon because they were in daily attendance at the religious service of a hostile faith were also able to join the state, where they proceeded to plot against the state at their religious services.

Anonymous Fake says:

[*deleted*]

jim says:

I have told you many times that to protect rectification of names, I am not going to allow through comments that misuse the words “merit” and “meritocracy” to mean that the holy priesthood of academia should get to award who gets the goodies. University accreditation does not measure merit, never did, nor is there any good reason why it ever should. It measures adhesion to the state religion.

You can argue your position, that university accreditation can and should measure merit, but using the words “merit” and “meritocracy” in this way assumes your position. I don’t think it ever did, I don’t think it can, and I don’t think it should attempt to do so. You can disagree, but I am not going to allow you to assume agreement.

Anonymous Fake says:

Just forget the ruling element, then, the “cracy”, and give good students decent middle class jobs that can provide for a family as a reward for showing up for the grind. Not the priesthood, not political sovereignty, not the megaphone, just the ability to reproduce more successfully than populations that perform poorly in school.

And if not, then the result we’re gradually seeing is schooling becoming nothing but free daycare that allows leftist anti-liberal populations to reproduce rapidly and seize power by demographic might. Not liberals, but not our people either.

I’m fundamentally arguing from basic capitalism here (actually many Bible verses would work even better), that labor deserves pay, and if not, no labor can be demanded.

jim says:

Allowing this through, since you are making an effort to be cooperative.

We can only have large numbers of middle class jobs if people create large amounts of value. Academia does not, cannot, teach people to create value. It can only teach people how to be an academic, which is to say a priest, and we thus have an enormous oversupply of priests overrunning the productive economy and destroying it.

Labor deserves no reward. People who create value deserve the value they create. That labor deserves reward is Marxism, an attack on both Christianity and capitalism. The doctrine that labor deserves reward leads to the rule of evil, mass poverty, and mass murder.

Your professors did not promise to pay you. They promised that someone else would pay you, an unfulfillable promise that they had no authority to make.

We don’t want to reward people for grinding away at what priests tell them to do. We want to reward people for creating value. Any reward for grinding away at what priests tell you to do has to be taken away from people who create value, which means less value created, which means fewer middle class jobs.

The government cannot create middle class jobs, only destroy them.

The priesthood cannot create middle class jobs, only destroy them.

Only the private sector can create middle class jobs, because only the private sector can create value. And for the private sector to create jobs, people have to be rewarded for doing what their employer tells them to do, not what their professor tells them to do.

Academia is a ponzi scheme, and all your proposals are the same proposal: That someone should be forced to make good on the promises the professors made. But those promises were lies that could never be fulfilled. People who invest in a ponzi scheme deserve to lose, and people who make those promises need to go to prison. There is no way that those promises can ever be made good, and attempting to do so is today destroying the economy. It is impossible to make good the promises of a ponzi scheme, which is what makes it a ponzi scheme, that it makes promises that could never be fulfilled.

Value does not spring forth from the magic dirt. Someone has to create value. Academics and students are not creating value, therefore do not deserve any value.

Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

>I’m fundamentally arguing from basic capitalism here (actually many Bible verses would work even better), that labor deserves pay, and if not, no labor can be demanded.

Labour doesn’t deserve any pay at all, getting something accomplished merits pay. You will not find the labour theory of value in the Bible, and it is certainly not basic capitalism either, rather a contradiction of basic capitalism.

I am not paying you to sweat, i am paying you to do a job. If i made a deal for you to move a set of cabinets to a new building over the weekend, and instead of driving half an hour across town to deliver it, you took a 5 day round trip around the country before arriving, i would not pay you extra for overtime, i would sue you for damages, because you failed at the job you were supposed to do, regardless of the effort involved, precisely because of the extra effort involved.

Anonymous Fake says:

Except when people try to create value, they chase after the careers that have the highest possible salaries [*deleted*]

jim says:

And when people want to invest money, they chase after the highest return, and the highest promised return always comes from a ponzi scammer, who cheerfully makes promises that can never be fulfilled.

The solution is not to force someone else to make good on the impossible promises made by the ponzi scammer, but to confiscate all his assets, hand them over to those he robbed (which is going to be much less money than they put in) and execute or imprison the ponzi scammer.

All your proposed solutions consist of giving unlimited and absolute power over value created by other people to the holy priests of academia, which is precisely the opposite of the solution needed, which is to confiscate the university endowments and imprison most of academia.

It is time for the dissolution of the monasteries.

All your proposed solutions have everyone somehow enabled to follow the false life plan taught by academia, and following it successfully. But we already have far too many people following that false life plan, far more than can follow it successfully. We want vastly fewer people attempting to follow it.

Anonymous Fake says:

If by “dissolution of monasteries”, you mean [*deleted*]

jim says:

No. I mean there are far too many young men imprisoned in schools and universities ritually rote memorizing meaningless nonsense and stupid lies, which they instantly forget after the examinations, when they could be out in the workplace gaining useful skills, and rapidly transition to the capability to support a wife and kids.

I mean we need to replace school and university with enforceable apprenticeship starting at a very young age.

I mean that we have far too many people trained in priestly occupations, such as lawyers and such like.

I mean that useful skills of the older generation are not being transmitted to the younger generation, because academia and HR views the knowledge of those who actually create value as inferior and low status.

I mean that we are losing the capability to make the stuff that we used to be able to make, because as the older generation retires, their skills and knowledge are forever lost.

I mean we need to reduce the size of universities by ninety nine percent and the schools by eighty percent, seize their assets, and sell them off.

I mean that most of the professoriat belongs in prison where they should be making big rocks into small rocks.

That is what I mean.

Starman says:

@Anonymous Fake

“Just forget the ruling element, then, the “cracy”, and give good students decent middle class jobs that can provide for a family as a reward for showing up for the grind. Not the priesthood, not political sovereignty, not the megaphone, just the ability to reproduce more successfully than populations that perform poorly in school.”

Techlord Elon came to a conclusion opposite of yours, when he took over Twitter, he just laid off those useless eaters.

[*same old stuff deleted yet again*]

jim says:

You said this before, far too many times, I allowed it through and responded far too many times.

If you respond to my one of my responses, I will allow it through. If you pass the shill test I will allow it through. If you just keep on repeating, you are going into the killfile with viagra sellers and the Nigerian princes and I will see your stuff no longer.

From here on, if you paste the same old as new thread, silent deletion. If you post as a response to one of my very old responses, the older the better, it has a chance. Or at least will be deleted with an explanation.

I’ll say something new, then. Beautiful malls are located in the deep blue cities, and trashy strip malls are in red subdivisions. It doesn’t have to be this way, and yet because it is, it makes otherwise mediocre blue cities simply look nicer because they have the best places, even if not the best people. It was mostly blue cities that saw their malls burned in 2020, and yet it was reds who were horrified, even if these were not even their own places. There’s a mismatch here, with the best people in the worst places, and vice versa.

And if GDP/prices don’t mean anything when it comes to value creation, then what is left except for “just follow your dreams, man?” That was a leftist position just a generation ago, and conservatives were the ones who looked up career salaries first before making what they thought was an informed decision.

If economics is basically meaningless in imperial territory, then we shouldn’t listen to people who only imagine themselves to be merchants. Even true merchants are ultimately still just merchants.

jim says:

> Beautiful malls are located in the deep blue cities

No they are not, nor can they be, because those cities are blue. I lived there for many years. The malls were trash, filled with human trash, and when I recently returned to my old haunts for a couple of months, the malls were not only trash, but the streets were overrun by criminals, my cell phone was stolen, and there was human shit on the streets so one had to watch where one was stepping. If anyone was to open a beautiful mall it that city, it would be robbed, the customers would be beaten up, and police would arrest him for getting in the way of shoplifters.

I have been in third world shopping centers operated by squatters in hovels, and the hovels were clean, with crude but attractive comfortable hand made furniture, there was no shit in the narrow crowded pathways between hovels, and nobody stole my cell phone.

> if GDP/prices don’t mean anything

Prices mean everything, GDP means nothing. You want to control prices because you hate the people who create value, because they are always first in line for the value they create, and you think people who worked hard at school for the holy priesthood of academia should be first in line. Hence you propose price control to lower prices in the big blue cities for the stuff red state Americans create.

Prices represent information about supply and demand, and supply and demand represents the exchange of value for value – except that blue state production of value consists of the production of permissions.

Prices are lower in red states and lower in the countryside and exurbs because that is where stuff that people in blue states consume comes from, and where the trucks have their depots.

All your proposals are the same proposal: To destroy the red state Americans who create value because you hate people who were less harmed than you by the priestly academics who scammed you and gave you a worthless degree and a pile of college debt. You are hating the wrong people. You should hate those who harmed you, not those that feed you. You should hate those who gave you a worthless law degree and promised you a fat job squeezing those who create actual value. The mass creation of such fat jobs for everyone who got accrediation for a fat job would result in everyone starving.

Red says:

Part 2:

“Just How Big Was the Operation Led by the LGBTQ Couple Who Abused Their Adopted Sons?”

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/miacathell/2023/01/18/zulock-case-pt-2-n2618321

https://archive.ph/ddRhg

A2 says:

The two pedos had quite a lot of cash at hand for such lackluster jobs, or so it seems to me.

For those who remember Comet Pizza and the oddly popular James Alefantis:

During one of the family’s excursions in May 2018 to a Gulf Shores pizza place, Zachary had drawn a rainbow circle around a portion of a children’s menu for kids ages 12 and under that jokingly quipped: “Children Unattended Will Be Sold As Slaves!”

Red says:

They were whoring the kids out as well, though I very much doubt that was enough to fund that lifestyle. Something else is going on.

Aryaman says:

I don’t really know what’s going on with the vax. But, amongst ourselves, we have had pulses and waves of “lots of people seem to be dying suddenly” since mid 2021. Previously, these pulses have corresponded to rollouts of the vaccine (though, there are so many it is hard to be sure).

But there have been a lot of stories of people dying suddenly in the past two months, and so far as I can tell no new rollout normal people have actually taken. Also, over the past couple years, stories of people randomly dying have disproportionately featured coaches or assitant coaches, for which I do not have adequate explanation.

I don’t know anyone close to me that has died young, but I know 4 or 5 people that are close to people close to me that have died young in the last 18 months. One or two of them may have been unhealthy, but not so unhealthy that the death wasn’t a terrible, random surprise.

young healthy people don’t die, so if you are noticing them at all means they are up by at least an order of magnitude, probably more. My impression is most of the people dying recently have not been boosted recently. Probably, if the vaccine itself kills, it does not randomly start killing many months after the fact. But if it compromises immune response, then constant Covid infection is apt to eventually kill.

I am not vaccinated. I had Covid once. I have been around people who had had Covid several times, who when they had Covid gave Covid to the other vaccinated around them, but did not give it to me.

Your Uncle Bob says:

What I’m seeing locally is not necessarily fatal cases of Suddenly, but vaxxies who are convinced they’ve got “long covid.” Which I no longer dismiss as all being hypochondria, because the symptoms look suspiciously like what others would call long term vax side effects.

In my personal circle no vaxxies have recanted, but some are now done boosting. Not all, amazingly, but a fair number.

Aryaman says:

I am certain that what is called “long covid” is a real thing, and I see it in the jabbed. It is not the jab that does it as much as getting covid between 3 and maybe 12 months after the last jab.

Red says:

Long covid isn’t real, AIDS from the jab is. Almost everyone complaining about long COVID are hypochondriacs the rest have vax induced aids.

Aryaman says:

I don’t much care what you call it, but catching Covid after you have been somewhat recently but not too recently jabbed predisposes you to a whole bundle of long term sequelae clinically known as long Covid.

Starman says:

@Aryaman

Long Covid is fake and gay.

It’s just vaxx induced ADE (which TrevorGoodchild warned from the beginning on his pinned Gab posts), and hysterical brahmin hypochondriacs.

Aryaman says:

I am saying you get what is called long Covid if you got the jab.

Don’t know what’s controversial about it.

Red says:

You are using the words shills are now pushing to explains the excessive deaths instead of blaming either the vax for ADE or hypochondriacs.

The term long covid is fake and gay.

jim says:

The term “long covid” implies that covid is the primary problem.

It is obvious that purebloods do not get long covid, unless they are hypochondriacs. Therefore, “long covid” is not long covid. Anticoncept.

Aryaman says:

I think it’s relevant that Covid is likely to be bad for people who are jabbed as a practical matter. What we are talking about isn’t sequelae from the jab itself but sequelae from having been infected of Covid not terribly long after the last jab. No, Covid is not the primary problem — but given you have been jabbed and everyone around you has been jabbed, it is.

Not an anticoncept, just an easy way of talking about clinical phenomenon observed in real life. Nothing about the way I am talking, nothing that I said promotes getting jabbed, or promotes idol worship of Covid containment protocols.

Having said that, if recently jabbed, maybe good to avoid Covid to the extent possible. I don’t know.

jim says:

> but given you have been jabbed and everyone around you has been jabbed, it is.

I have not been jabbed. I am a golden pureblood – a pureblood with natural immunity.

And lots of people around me in real life have not been jabbed. Huge numbers of people, one hell of a lot of normies, simply hid out back when the enforcement was extreme and brutal. A whole lot of people just quietly resisted. All of us that I know of got covid in due course, all us purebloods are now golden, which we always caught from someone who had been jabbed, none of us that I know of got long covid.

That is what makes “long covid” an anticoncept. There was massive resistance, and the resisters are now watching those who failed to resist suffer the consequences of making sacrifice to a demon.

The claim that 99.9% of the population was jabbed was always an absurd lie, a ridiculous lie told to persuade the resisters that resistance was hopeless, resisters were crazy, but when enforcement was abandoned when Putin invaded Ukraine, now we are vindicated by the suffering of those who made sacrifice to the Awesome and Mighty Covid Demon. We were willing to hide out for as long as it took, it did not take that long, and now I see the resisters revealing themselves.

It is more like sixty or eighty percent got jabbed. We endured, the Covidians did not. We were right, the Covidians are now ashamed. It is the reality of massive resistance from the beginning that makes “long covid” an anticoncept.

Red says:

Not an anticoncept, just an easy way of talking about clinical phenomenon observed in real life.

You talk like a fag and your shit’s all retarded.

Aryaman says:

The claim that 99.9% of the population was jabbed was always an absurd lie, a ridiculous lie told to persuade the resisters that resistance was hopeless, resisters were crazy

One reason for the claim everyone is vaccinated is to deflate the denominator of purebloods to make death rates look a lot lower among the jabbed. They told on themselves in observing that the jab miraculously cures cancer, dementia, and heart disease in England. They were too stupid to coordinate this in a way that was believable, and the fact they are not writing about this observation and looking into the reasons behind it is the dog that did not bark.

Economist: People with covid jabs are 75 percent less likely to die of anything else as well

I don’t disagree with any of the rest of what you said, don’t see what it has to do with the term “long covid” but won’t belabor that point.

jim says:

The problem is that calling it “long covid” is to deny that it is jab related.

A more accurate name would be jab seqelae.

It is obvious that people suddenly dropping dead is another variation of “long covid”, and the medical profession’s strange lack of curiosity about an epidemic of young adult sudden death shows that they know damn well it is not caused by past covid infection.

Aryaman says:

You talk like a fag and your shit’s all retarded.

Go ahead and trawl through anything I have ever posted on this blog and tell me how it promotes a shill narrative

Aryaman says:

Jab sequelae is too general because there are a whole panoply of strange and unusual things that happen after the jab, including some things that resemble aids. They are most of them probably related anyhow, given the stuff does a million random things nearly all of them very bad for you.

Whereas the thing people call long covid happens to people who are jabbed and I am speculating that as a result of the fact they are jabbed letting a while pass before getting infected may not be a bad idea. We have talked about what are the jabbed to do elsewhere in this thread which is why I think the distinction is relevant.

but I won’t belabor this specific dispute further

Also I tried to embed an image (https://infographics.economist.com/2021/20211030_WOC828/20211030_WOC828-Artboard_1.png) but everything within the “ tag seems to have been stripped. What am I doing wrong?

jim says:

There are two issues:

1. Your link strangely points to a graphic no text, which does not reveal what it is about.

2. WordPress is screwing up. It allows me to post images in comments but does not allow you.

I just added an attachment that claims to address that problem. But such attachments are apt to be pain in the ass to administer and get actually working, and my very minor security customizations to wordpress are apt to inexplicably step on them.

simplyconnected says:

The claim that 99.9% of the population was jabbed was always an absurd lie […] It is more like sixty or eighty percent got jabbed.

There’s evidence for this. In the UK the BBC claimed that only 4% unjabbed, another time that only 8% unjabbed. But random sampling of the population consistently showed ~1/3 unjabbed.

Aryaman says:

Strange.

Link to the article is here. https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/2021/10/27/people-with-covid-jabs-have-been-less-likely-to-die-of-other-causes

Not all that interesting except to show that the jab prevents homicide death nearly as well as it prevents covid death which is to say it does neither, and the denominator they’re using is wrong. And since they haven’t been following up on this amazing discovery and talking all about it, they probably also realize what is wrong.

Kunning Druegger says:

@Ayraman
Steve Sailer deboonk’d this stupid article, and a few others that recycled the “data”, and in so doing ratio’d the shit out of the publishing rags.

Starman says:

And a pox on those who claimed “consensus is that TrevorGoodchild is a ‘fed.'” What consensus?

TrevorGoodchild actually saved people’s lives from the clotshots.

Kunning Drueger says:

Coaches and sports managers deal with equivalent stress to the players, though it comes from different things for various reasons, and they aren’t training the same, so I think it actually makes a lot of sense. Athletes have nutrition and rest forced on them, while coaches and managers have to keep an office/entrepreneur lifestyle, meaning way less sleep and potentially terrible nutrition, plus dealing with the admin headaches.

Red says:

High stress + being older. The clot shot is a lot more deadly to older people than younger.

Pax Imperialis says:

Deadly to older people in the short term. Long term for younger people is unknown. Some % will have scarring in their heart tissue. Scarring can be pretty terminal.

Red says:

The FAA has very quietly tacitly admitted that the EKGs of pilots are no longer normal.

https://stevekirsch.substack.com/p/the-faa-has-very-quietly-tacitly?utm_medium=email&isFreemail=true

https://archive.ph/FZKQ7

Red says:

I may have to rethinking flying. Though car accidents and road rage is off the charts these days as well.

Jehu says:

Yeah that’s pretty disturbing. It’s pretty unlikely for both pilot and copilot to both ‘die suddenly’ at once, but even so.

Red says:

The stress generated by one dying might induce a heart attack in the other. Also landings and take offs.

The Ducking Man says:

You know what they say:

Anything that can go wrong, will go wrong.

Kunning Drueger says:

Evgeny Prigozhin spoke about the demands from Russian MoD to oblige their soldiers in the SMO zone to shave their beards and give up tablets and smartphones.

“A soldier must fight. Shaving is generally a great luxury. A beard at the front is a symbol, it is a tradition.
Tablets and smartphones are essential to modern warfare. Accurate geodata are available, including heights and other terrain secrets. Thanks to smartphones and tablets, junior commanders and fighters of certain specialties know the general situation and can transmit the data necessary in battle. Of course, it is necessary to correctly use the means of communication and have those that the enemy could not detect. Of course, some of the degenerates use them to chat on WhatsApp, Viber and other enemy means of passing information.

It is necessary to develop along with the development of modern warfare, learn to effectively kill the enemy and seize territories. And if instead of the development of military equipment – parades, reviews and competitions, instead of iron balls – stupid obedience and sycophancy, then you need to play “Zarnitsa”*. It’s impossible to castrate the combat-ready population of the country, to drive them into an absurd conditions.
War is the time of the active and courageous, and not of the clean-shaven with phones handed over to the warehouse,” Prigozhin said.

*Zarnitsa was a massive children’s war game organized within the Young Pioneers organization. The game was an imitation of military actions The word zarnitsa literally means “heat lightning”

Prigozhin is the oligarch that formed and runs Wagner Group. He appears to be moving towards IEW.

pinochet's ghost says:

Warfare is becoming the profession for an intellectual elite, but in most countries warfare is despised by the intellectual elite. The first group to award its most intelligent and self-disciplined men with the first pick of women for fighting will conquer the world.

Red says:

Evgeny Prigozhin spoke about the demands from Russian MoD to oblige their soldiers in the SMO zone to shave their beards and give up tablets and smartphones.

Prigozhin is making himself a direct threat to the Russian military brass. If he’s not careful they’ll hand his location over to NATO and he’ll be assassinated via drone.

Kunning Drueger says:

I agree, but this risk is inevitable for any IEW neo-Knight/Baron/Warlord that arises from within an extant structure of martial management.

Every modern society is actually a corpse, a cadaverous structure inhabited by the managerial bacteria that used to be contained within the *supposedly* necessary organs of governance. They were encased by the tissue of tradition and hierarchy, and when the king/brain was cut off, the started to eat their way out. The bigger and/or healthier the body at the time of death (or the less virulent the managerial bacteria/stronger the divisive tissue), the longer the cadaverous society lasts.

The forms of governance in the future will all arise from the sepulchre of history, whether it’s the cemetery of empires or the morgue of modernity. In the former, leaders will have to reanimate dead ideas, dead religions, dead nationalisms, dead etc. In the latter, the will have to oppose or break with the managerial zombies just to get the opportunity to lead.

Aidan says:

It’s a dangerous game. He’s probably the natural successor to Putin, and should bide his time. But it would be a fittingly tragic end if incompetent generals at HQ have him killed as a threat to the centralized bureaucratic military. But maybe he flees, and an extremely wealthy South African billionaire hires Wagner to recapture… well a man can dream.

Redbible says:

As part of one of Red’s posts he said:

Instead he fucked one girl and the other girls where just frustrated.

Which got me thinking about how women get frustrated when they believe that sex was supposed to have happened OR when they haven’t been assigned/given to a man (who will then sex them). More distinctly, my friend’s sister over the last months has really shifted how she behaves. She used to be more playfully mean to me, and was nice to her brothers when I was around. Now she is just generally raw mean to me and her brothers, or she tries to ignore us. It makes me think that perhaps she mad that her brothers haven’t “given her away” (their father is “old enough” that he is out of it a lot, so he couldn’t give her away realistically speaking), and that she might be mad at me for having not taken her yet.

I’m been looking for her to “start a chase”, but after learning about that from Jim, I wasn’t able to be over for awhile, and then she didn’t start any chases like she had previously done. One idea I’ve had is to try to “prod” her into starting a chase, but question the effectiveness of trying to force it. I’ve tried to spend time with her, but she doesn’t cooperate even slightly. She always responds to any text I send her, even though most of those replies are short, which seems mixed on interest. Finally, I question if she might “feels rejected” by me to a degree that trying to win her over is like rushing into a brick wall.

I feel what I wrote is a bit over the place, but I guess I just feel at a loss since this isn’t anything like what I’ve dealt with in the past.

Alfred says:

Could you point me in the direction of the posts you reference from join regarding “starting the chase”? I always enjoy reading his game wisdom and I’ve not seen that phrase before.

Alfred says:

*join should read Jim.

Redbible says:

It was a reply to one of my previous comments.

Quick version of the top of my head is that a woman will do something to get a man to chase her (taunt and run is one kind). If the Man chases her (with the willingness to pursue no matter what), he will find that ultimately the woman will let herself “get caught”. My two personal experiences with this involved 1 running into a dead end (that she should have clearly known about), and the other would go to a walk if she thought she had lost me (though, she would make she she had a LONG lead before going to a walk speed.)

I’ll see if I can find Jim’ comment. It will take some time for me to find it. Probably will do it a few days from now.

Redbible says:

After thinking about what was going on in my life at the time, I then remembered the approximate time, and quickly found the page with the comment:

https://blog.reaction.la/party-politics/a-prediction-corrected/#comment-2845446

The part in particle is the 2nd paragraph.

Alfred says:

Thank you much.

Red says:

Take Jim’s advice of treating her like a bratty little sister. Don’t try to force issues with women, you’ll just trip yourself up. Assume the correct frame and let things play from it.

Adam says:

Your in the friend zone bro. She is the alpha in the relationship and you are her beta orbiter. Next time you see her in a bad mood say “Bitch what the fuck is your problem why are you always such a cunt”. Then start succeeding where you have up to now failed. Bonus points if you make her cry.

SJ says:

Being raised as a prog it is highly likely that your entire worldview of women is incorrect. Here is some advice for dating. If you would like to date this girl then ask her out. Don’t hesitate ask her out asap. Do not get oneitis for this girl. Remember it is likely that she has been sneaking off to give her holes to a middle age criminal retard since she was a young virgin teen. Also keep in mind that this is not unusual behavior but the normal behavior of an uncontrolled girl in a matriarchy.

Don’t forget that our people have transitioned into a matriarchy just like the savannah African nogs and this happened before you were born. You are in a matriarchy so act like it. Don’t focus on just this one slut you need to ask out a lot of sluts and date them the red pill way, ie they are plates and you are a player. If your friends won’t support you in dating their sister then dump the friends they are likely bucket crabs and will only drag you down

Their is a lot to learn about women and a lot to unlearn but step one on your journey to successful man is to try and try again, and again, and again and again and again. So stop pussyfooting around and ask that slut out. Don’t forget to sexualize quickly in the future with all potential girls. Now get to it

Red says:

This is either a very good shill line attacking Trump, or pretty accurate:

https://twitter.com/DarnelSugarfoo/status/1616006975128731652?cxt=HHwWiIDQsYXymu0sAAAA

https://twitter.com/DarnelSugarfoo/status/1616004086834561024?cxt=HHwWgIDU9fXJme0sAAAA

One of Trump’s weaknesses is an inability to see when he’s being setup. (see J6)

Someone has advised him to take this stance on the vaxx. If you wanted to destroy Trump, you’d tell him to do what he’s doing, just as the narrative on the vaxx is shifting.

Contaminated NEET says:

It’s completely accurate. Trump will never understand that the America he grew up in, where one could basically trust the institutions and the “experts” without getting totally screwed, is gone. He’s a classic boomer. He’s too old and set in his ways to change his basic worldview now; even as the lead him to the gallows he’ll still believe it’s all just a few bad apples.

Starman says:

@Contaminated NEET

”It’s completely accurate. Trump will never understand that the America he grew up in, where one could basically trust the institutions and the “experts” without getting totally screwed, is gone. He’s a classic boomer.”

It’s astonishing how much Trump trusts the credentialed labcoats, even if it’s an obvious snake like Fauci.

This, with bad personnel selection, will be Trump’s downfall.

Karl says:

This, with bad personnel selection, will be Trump’s downfall.

Nah, not will be. This has been Trump’s downfall

Starman says:

A great opportunity to play, “Pin the Vaxx on The Donald.”

Kunning Druegger says:

As much as I hate that he’s being such a fucking boomer, if his last great act is to usher in unbridled hate and vengeance for all associated with Coronatarianism, it will be a nice consolation prize. They will attempt to put it all on him, but the maskies and vaxxies will not give up their idols and rain dances so easily.

[…] Scale of deaths for flu and jab. […]

notglowing says:

Regarding the power substation attack:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPwY-FTqWxM

Comments also contain some useful information on the defenses employed for american infrastructure

Kunning Druegger says:

The consensus is getting nervous…

https://archive.ph/HnmUp

Red says:

I read a Russian telegram post the other day on the progress of the war materials. Ukraine first used up all their war materials, then all the old Soviet War Materials from NATO states, and now they’re currently using up the older NATO war materials. Last up with be NATO current stock of war materials and there still no signs of increased production from the west. Russia’s not spending a heck of a lot on this war compared to NATO. Once that’s gone there won’t be jack shit stopping Russia from rolling over Europe if they want it.

My own take is the US economy can’t ramp up to supply the weapons needed because the left is strangling it and the people who knew how to make the weapons are retiring or dead.

Germany’s goal at Verdun was to take the French forts and then bleed the French army into submission when they counter attacked. They failed to take all the forts and the plan never would have worked because the French government wanted their men dead. The Russians seem to be counting war supplies destroyed rather than men killed which is a better idea with their on Verduns.

pinochet's ghost says:

“Once that’s gone there won’t be jack shit stopping Russia from rolling over Europe if they want it.”

Insanity. NATO has thousands of aircraft.

But Russia may take Ukraine eventually.

Like England Russia is good at starting wars disastrously and eventually winning them.

S says:

How many NATOs pilots and support personal took the jab?

Wulfgar Thundercock III says:

How does one beat a NATO aircraft? For the purposes of this argument, we will simply assume as a given that NATO aircraft are superior. We then must target the weakest and least replaceable aspect of the aircraft: the pilot. How do you target the pilot without destroying the aircraft? Lasers! Optical sensors/viewports are typically a weak point on any vehicle, and the human body is no exception. How can you fly with a blind pilot? Trick question, you fucking can’t. Hook up a bunch of 1W laser pointers into an array with a targeting system. Think CWIS with lasers instead of a minigun. See an aircraft that is not broadcasting friendly IFF? Lasers! Because who needs eyes? The pilot, but not for long!

Jehu says:

I understand that the use of long term persistent chemical agents reduces the sortie rate of NATO aircraft massively. That was part of the old Cold War calculus of air superiority around the Fulda Gap.

Wulfgar Thundercock III says:

Sure, but that means that you have to deal with persistent agents fucking up the area you want to take. Just use lasers. There will be no mess or cleanup, besides the crash site.

FrankNorman says:

There are international treaties banning the use of “blinding lasers” in war. So what you are suggesting would be a war crime.

Also, a human pilot does not need to be looking through glass – he could be seeing through digital cameras.

Wulfgar Thundercock III says:

Guess who gets to prosecute war crimes? The guy who wins the fucking war. So starving a bunch of subversives, degenerates, and traitors is the worst thing ever in Germany, but not in glorious Soviet Union! Neither is atom bombing two cities of the nation trying to surrender or bombing civilian targets if you are America or Britain.

The only war crime is losing.

Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

20th century era aircraft are a lot less useful when ground fired guided munitions are in play; and Russia has a lot of those.

Red says:

Ukraine isn’t proof that ground based anti-aircraft is unstoppable, but it’s kind of looking that way. We’ll see how things go when the US air force gets involved.

Kunning Druegger says:

Air supremacy is not going to look anything like what it was portrayed to be. Space based bombard platforms and drone swarms are more likely IMO.

Red says:

Live video feed from satellites to guide artillery rounds. Everything that’s making drones a killer app is even better with thousands of starlink sats making sure every round hits the target.

jim says:

> Insanity. NATO has thousands of aircraft.

Has thousands of aircraft on the ground.

And, in any case, one of the things this war has revealed is that in a peer war between great powers, manned aircraft are not in fact all that useful, even if one is actually able to get them into the air.

Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

Thunsperg looks very developmentally challenged for a 20 year old. I wouldn’t be surprised if her spook parents put her on puberty blockers to keep her ‘image’ out in front of the cameras for longer. Same deal with David ‘eternal grade schooler’ Hogg.

SJ says:

More likely they are devotees of the divine principle, androgynous cross dressing Jesus, Mary the hermaphrodite, and Adam Kadmon.

Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

Sure; and what better sacrament than holy whoremoans.

jim says:

It is her face. Most eleven year olds have faces that show more indication of sexual development than Greta Thunberg. She has to be on hormone blockers.

Red says:

I was disturbed looking at her staged arrest photos the other day. She looked so unnatural.

Aidan says:

She was raised on a vegan diet (same thing)

Trump 2024 says:

EMJ wrote a piece on Greta in 2019 titled, “Greta Thunberg: Climate Change And Mental Illness,” in which he argues that Greta is a mental case who was made so by her helicopter parents. He did a series of interviews on the topic at the time:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7csng33w5M

He says that the Thunberg family is an example of the wreckage wrought by the cultural revolution, and, rather than going to family therapy and/or repenting of their sins, they are through Greta’s campaigning projecting their guilt out onto the world. You are paying three times what you should be for energy because Greta’s mommy wanted a “career.”

Greta is an anorexic and a vegan, but I repeat myself. Veganism is the cachexiac’s diet of choice. One theory of anorexia is that it is a teenage girl’s rebellion, not only against a weak father and a domineering mother, but against her own fertility. The girl’s hips and breasts begin to develop; she fears the responsibility of womanhood; she stops eating. A lack of protein and a calorie deficit forces the body to shut down inessential processes, such as the reproduction system. Amazingly, there is a type of woman who can go on like this for decades. Think of the type of the female saint, the nun, the old spinster librarian, or, in the case of Greta, the true-believing shitlib. The caloric restriction is a form of ascetic practice, self-punishment, self-purification, self-righteousness — all hypocritical, of course.

My point is that due to her diet and lifestyle, there is little chance this bitch is ovulating, hence the infertile physiognomy.

(Not to mention the fetal alcohol syndrome aspect.)

Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

A series on physiognomy would be good. It’s something one can, quite literally, see everywhere.

Take a semi-random example from popular youtube videos: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCcgZkiqZB0

The man running the tank park has very aristocratic features; likely cavalier ancestry, which also tracks with the coincidental happenstance of being involved with military surplus as a going concern.

Meanwhile, the group from the states, while an exceptional example of great success, also very much wear vaisya caste extraction on their faces. Possibly also evidence of endocrine disruption in youth from hormone mimicking contaminants in water and food supply.

One of the most significant factors that tell a difference between folk from genuine old money, and nouveaux riche, is self moderation – low time preference, low impulsiveness, delayed gratification, et cetera.

You can see shades of this in the content creator themselves making the video. He was able to work himself up in life to a position where he could do things like like just buy a surplus tank on the marketplace on a lark. At the same time though, who just buys a surplus tank on a lark? Of course you could say it was also for the Kantent, so not totally a lark either. That’s the tension that exists in many nouveaux riche; ability to make value at war with profligacy in pissing it away on superstimuli.

You can see exceptional examples in one generation who make it work, but unless they marry up in status, their sons aren’t guaranteed to make the same grade, and revert to the mean. Gregory Clark’s most excellent tome ‘The Son Also Rises’ touches on these phenomena in good detail.

Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

Incidentally, I am in full support of fully featured military hardware being available on the open market – nothing would be better for a nation’s defense logistical capability.

Leon says:

Any other good videos on physiognomy? Any very good books as well? Perhaps ones with pictures for examples?

Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

The number one compulsion of evil men is to dissimulate the ability of others to recognize them for what they are, which they themselves instinctively recognize on one level or another, and are tormented by.

Which makes subjects like physiognomy pure kryptonite. Any explicit treating with the subject will be sanitized from discourse, including even to condemn it, leaving one with disparate bits of pieces elided through overlap in other contexts. The easiest surviving example to find on record is probably Schopenhauer’s short essay on the subject. Edward Dutton is probably the closest example in later days of someone circling around the drain – if not quite going strait inside – in his book ‘How to Judge People by What They Look Like’.

Leon says:

Any older books then? Something from the Victorian era perhaps?

Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

Johann Kaspar Lavater’s essays and aphorisms are a classic touchstone most everyone else referred too on the subject.

Joseph Simm’s ‘Physiognomy Illustrated’, L. A. Vaught’s ‘Practical Character Reader’, and Nelson Sizer’s ‘Fourty Years in Phrenology’ are later Victorian examples. At the same rate, Francis Jeffrey’s ‘Craniad’ is a funny example of ‘progressivism, yesterday’.

This angle can naturally be found in other civilizations as well, the chinese and other east asians especially who have always been openly into it to this day, for example Quyen Quang Tran’s ‘The Art of Reading People’, which was published in 2016.

Heavy D says:

Trump still shilling the clot shot, says he might have “saved 100 million lives.” Fucking unbelievable.

https://www.newsweek.com/trump-says-he-saved-100-million-lives-covid-vaccines-1774178

(Newsweek is left-wing trash, but the Trump quotes are accurate.)

Kunning Druegger says:

Please endeavor to use archive.ph for any links to MSM or sources “we” find repugnant. It defeats paywalls, deprives them of clicks and ad revenue, and forestalls later deletion when the window and/or frame shifts. It also strips out malicious and annoying ads/pop ups.

I know it’s a hassle, but it’s a good thing to do and is a tangible way to damage enemies.

Fred says:

In the very very first days of the Covid virus, it was substantially deadlier than regular flu.

If this were true, the virus would have been noticed immediately. It wasn’t, though; it was circulating in Milan at least as far back as September 2019 and no one noticed a thing.

Encelad says:

Cannibalism.
They are talking about it negatively, but they have started talking about it.
The point of the video is that cannibalism is wrong for many reasons, BUT considering it a “taboo” topic is wrong.

https://twitter.com/TechInsider/status/1616100544438738944

zero says:

Who doesn’t want spongiform cerebral infection? ure jast racis

Oog en Hand says:

Prions can be avoided if you do not eat the brain, and do not scrape the meat from the bones. Learned from mad-cow disease.

Kunning Druegger says:

>subtly signaling support for cannibalism

You really are our little Representative of Elite Aesthetic.

Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

SOYLENT GREEN IS PEEEEOPLEEEEE

i says:

Tang Dynasty special:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpccLU6polA

(Yin Ziqi had besieged the city for a long time. The food in the city had run out. The dwellers traded their children to eat and cooked bodies of the dead. Fears were spread and worse situations were expected. At this time, Zhang Xun took his concubine out and killed her in front of his soldiers in order to feed them. He said, “You have been working hard at protecting this city for the country wholeheartedly.

Your loyalty is uncompromised despite the long-lasting hunger. Since I can’t cut out my own flesh to feed you, how can I keep this woman and just ignore the dangerous situation?” All the soldiers cried, and they did not want to eat. Zhang Xun ordered them to eat the flesh. Afterwards, they caught the women in the city. After the women were run out, they turned to old and young males. 20,000 to 30,000 people were eaten. People always remained loyal.)

(…(Xu) Yuan also killed servants to feed the soldiers…)

(After the city was besieged for a long time, at the beginning, the horses were eaten. After horses ran out, they turned to the women, the old, and the young. 30,000 people in total were eaten. People knew their death was close, and nobody rebelled. When the city fell, only 400 people were left.)

It is possible that all dead soldiers and civilians were also eaten after this incident.

https://infogalactic.com/info/Battle_of_Suiyang

A2 says:

“Cannibalism is a clear taboo in our society. But, putting ethics aside, why shouldn’t you eat other humans?”

(Professor of Ethics long-windedly explains why cannibalism actually is ethical.)

I might say that article is literally gay, because gayness is all about breaking taboos of various kinds. Punish in the spirit of Leviticus.

The image of that tweet is probably based on a somewhat wellknown photo from Congo of a young black soldier munching on a lower leg with a sneaker on.

Kunning Druegger says:

Really too early to tell, but reports coming in appear to indicate that a general Russian offensive has begun, starting in Zaporozhye oblast, but now purported to be across the whole front. Rumors circulating that the Zaporozhye line on the AFU side was weakened by reserves/forces being transferred North to the Bakhmut area. No reports or info indicating movement from Belarus, nor anything in the directions of Kiev or Galicia.

It has been asserted by Ukrainian leadership that they thought there would be a push on Kiev, which has absorbed many reserves and equipment that could have been deployed to the front. This was ostensibly based on the documented build up of RF forces in Belarus as well as many maneuvers being carried out with RF and Belarusian forces. This operational theater potential was reinforced by dissident commentators in the West asserting that the Kremlin may wish to or need to close the land corridor by which the vast majority of materiel flows from the GAE to Kiev. Geo-strategically, this means that the RF would need to punch out of Belarus, or through Northern Ukraine, towards and past Lviv. While this makes sense in a purely strategic sense, this would require a full invasion of the Ruthenian heartland, into the territory quietly claimed by Poland. It is the opinion of this writer that this is not on the table, as Poland is retarded and Russia does not want Pollacks being even more retardeder, but who can say.

It should be noted that there is no sign of the frenetic posting on Telegram that has usually accompanied large RF operations. This may or may not be indicative of.. well, anything. Moscow could be suppressing the usual noise/signal cocktail, indy channels could be tired of being mocked for premature poast-jaculation. Often not commented upon, RF has been incredibly good at OpSec for the regular army; most info comes from Wagner, other PMCs/battalions, LPR/DPR militias. This could be a factor in the dearth of updates/info.

Also of note, footage of RF regulars trying to cross a field with no armor support and no subsequent evac when they start getting mowed down is making the rounds. This is relevant, as if there is in fact a broad offensive beginning, and the RF generals have learned nothing in the last year, we could see a decisive blow to RF prestige, morale, and operational tempo if/when massed foot assaults get thrown back. It is too early to tell if this is the case, and the one thing Kiev is good at is muddying the water when things are actually happening, and their MVP in this game are pro-Z doompoasters like Strelkov the dickless faggot.

As better info comes in, I will attempt to update in this thread, and I ask that others who wish to post on this possible offensive contain their contributions here as not to shit up the board with “news of the day” given how many valuable discussions more on topic are ongoing.

Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_Y0ctq4PTo

The plains of eastern europe are much like the muskegs of north america; once things start thawing out as spring approaches, all the logged water from winter precipitation turns everything into a pile of shit.

It’s a pretty bad time to be doing any major troop movements, I actually expected the Russian general staff to double down on reconnaissance-strike through this period. But perhaps the map autists on the committee were getting anxious about seeing the lines change already, to reassure themselves.

nemo says:

This does not appear to have happened.

jim says:

Looks to me like a Russian general offensive in the Zaporozhye oblast began, the initial results were great, it looked like the Ukrainian front line was collapsing. Then the Ukrainians got their act together, and it no longer looked like the Ukrainian front line was collapsing.

i says:

The Czech Republic in 10 years managed to increase their fertility to 1.8:
https://brnodaily.com/2022/12/15/news/fertility-rate-in-czech-republic-in-2021-reaches-30-year-high/

Normally highly irreligious countries have low fertility. But why is the Czech Republic the exception?

No evidence of Jimian Christianity there either. But despite that they are improving their fertility over time compared to other European countries.

S says:

Poland hit 1.25 in 2003 and rose to 1.7. Czech is higher, but not exceptional.

jim says:

Half of that is allegedly single mothers. Could be that the Czechs are turning into wiggers, or it could be that red pilled men will form relationiships equivalent to marriage, when official marriage is gay.

Wigger fertility is infamously high, but that is the fertility we do not want.

pinochet's ghost says:

Do you really want to allow auto-loading of images/links from outside websites?

MSM sites and Twitter also seem to be the most aggressive trackers

jim says:

Our enemies can, and do, read this website. On the other hand, probably a really bad idea if someone reads this website, and his browser reports to MSM and twitter than he is reading it.

So, probably a really bad idea to allow you tube etc to load. I just wanted commenters to be able to upload images, but it seems that I have carelessly enabled a whole package of trackers.

I have therefore set any comment with images and such to go into the moderation buffer. If someone just uploads an image, the intended usage, no problem. If he embeds an image that is on an enemy site, big problem, because when the item is displayed, the browser of everyone who reads this site has to tell the enemy site that the person browsing is on this site, because it is fetching the image from the enemy site for this site.

Thanks for the heads up. I was careless.

Kunning Druegger says:

On the aesthetic side, it looked tacky. Your blog is case study in why the simple internet is the best internet.

Red says:

Exactly. I was just about to start bitching about the change when Jim changed it back. Reading nicely formatted text is 100x better than the jarring crap that is the modern web.

Fidelis says:

Having to read and not idly looking at links and memes and videos is a wonderful filter.

Contaminated NEET says:

Let’s get it up above 2.1 before we break out the champagne.

Oog en Hand says:

Secular Israelis have three to four children. They do not marry 12 year old females to 30 year old males. Despite being atheists, they took some ethical concepts from Talmudic Judaism that are also found in other non-Christian religions. Look at the following discussion:

A: “I heard Odinism allows you to kill Christians and take their stuff.”
B: “That is not true.”
A: “But the Edda says…”
A: “No, it doesn’t. You are using a bad translation, you do not know Old Norse.”

Upravda says:

Czechs were the only atheists who were not commies and actively anti-communist instead. It is mystery, not just to me, but to broader part of Easter Europeans.

Some people says that the catch is that the only legal religion in Czech lands up to the times of Emperor Joseph II was Roman Catholicism – and Roman Catholicism was in earlier times supposedly imposed by force & by those pesky Germans over the supposedly “national” Hussite and, later, Protestant movements.

Erik von Kuehnelt-Leddihn argued that that reasoning is bullshit in his book Leftism, From de Sade and Marx to Hitler and Marcuse, but me thinks that there might be something in it. A grain of truth, perhaps.

All of the people from the Czech minority in Croatian lands were always good Catholics, however.

I think that linking Roman Catholicism with Germans was mostly just imagination of some Czech nationalists in 19th century, but I also heard that Czech commies were actually much softer toward Christians than other commies, up to and including giving salary to Catholic clergy – and that didn’t pass too well with Czechs. However, I’m not so sure is that another myth or no.

Off-topic – Czech movies, even for kids, always had some pretty woman in topless. It was a joy to watch when I was a kid back in Eighties. 🙂

The Cominator says:

Czechs were forced to nominal papism, on some level they probably believe in God but understandably not the Catholic Church.

Also their fertility aint that high and given Pragues rep as the worlds biggest brothel some of it may be due to my observation that ladies of the night are surprisingly loathe to use birth control.

S.J., Esquire says:

“why is the Czech Republic the exception?”

It isn’t, and your comment underscores the point. STOP THE PRESSES, they got it to 1.8(!) by increasing maternity leave or whatever!!

That’s still below replacement level bruh. they pull out all of the stops (other than religious pressure) and can still only get 1.8, which is nothing. let me know when an irreligious society gets it to 3.

The Cominator says:

https://citizenfreepress.com/breaking/breaking-ron-klain-to-step-down-as-biden-chief-of-staff/

Real shadow president Ron Klain resigns. I think our bolsheviks start purging each other soon.

Red says:

Biden’s going to be out pretty soon.

Kunning Druegger says:

Agreed. I am predicting ~November.

TiredTom says:

They are likely to pull out the Hoe before they pull Joe. That’s if they actually want a President instead of a puppet. They were both chosen as totally expendable puppets no one cares about, easily forced out by pre-existing indiscretions.

I expect serious squabbling over power soon, almost surely with a visible holiness spiral.

Red says:

New Chief of Staff is Jeff Zients. I can’t really tell if he’s going to be the power behind the throne or just someone they sloted in why they finish removing Biden.

Alfred says:

Hello all, I am looking for guidance on a nuanced piece of game. If this sort of comment/request is not appropriate for this post, please let me know and I’ll delete.

I’ve been getting mixed signals from a female friend of mine (has a long-distance boyfriend, otherwise I’d have made an overt move a while ago). On balance, I’m probably getting more “go” signals.

Things like talking about how she has a thing for guys who play a certain sport, and then some time later mentions that she thought I played this sport in high school, and shooting me an look whenever said sport is mentioned, etc; grabbing my hand or dancing up on me when we’re out at bars when a song she likes comes on, smushing her face into mine for a greeting or picture; she’s not afraid of contact and seems comfortable if I slide my hand around her lower waist for a picture or whatever. Told me she thinks I have a big dick. There are more examples, but I’ll not belabor it.

One potentially bad sign I’ve noticed is that she (occasionally) brings up her boyfriend in common conversation, usually just as an anecdote in passing. Whenever it happens I just slowly tune out in apathy and go back to doing whatever I was before. More recently though, she’s brought him up in exclusively negative contexts.

Example: she told a story where her boyfriend said he was “itching to get into a fight. Conveniently, soon after some guy was putting his hands all over her at a party. She told him to stop, and eventually told boyfriend what was going on and asked him to stop it.

Boyfriend said he didn’t want to fight anyone, “was all about peace” or some gay bullshit. She said he wouldn’t even verbally confront the guy, and although she didn’t say it outright I could tell she thought he was being a pussy. I’ve seen the guy before, and he is more than big enough to intimidate most guys visually.

Sorry for the long windup, but my question is this: a woman talking about other men to you is generally a bad sign, I know, but is a girl talking shit-talking her man to you in a flagrantly disrespectful manner, to the point of questioning his masculinity, any different?

The Cominator says:

“Told me she thinks i have a big dick”

Lol she wants to fuck 100%.

Alfred says:

I guess I could be thinking myself into too much hesitation. Ideally I wouldn’t spend any time thinking about it at all. Still, I was always going to wait until she was signal to be more overt. Fooling around with another guy’s woman is a line I don’t want to cross.

For what it’s worth, we were drinking in a public area and she was playing a game of trying to make me blush. First she shouted some words like clitoris or whatever, then that. I did grin a little when she said it I have to admit.

I’ll take your insight to heart if/when the time is right.

Adam says:

>I guess I could be thinking myself into too much hesitation.

Think with your dick and it will all work out naturally.

Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

All ‘mixed signals’ are positive signals. A girl who is not interested in a man is not going to acknowledge or interact with them at all.

Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

>she (occasionally) brings up her boyfriend in common conversation

Read: are you a bad enough dude to take ownership of me and fob off any other men involved who are retrochronically worthless after failing to take ownership of me from you? ‘Lets you and him fight’, et cetera et cetera.

The Cominator says:

When she starts blatantly talking you about what she imagines your dick size is its not a mixed signal.

Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

Certainly. It is just the thing: if she is talking with you about your dick, she’s giving you an opportunity; if she’s talking with you about her ‘boyfriend’, she’s also giving you an opportunity.

Both ‘positive’ and ‘negative’ signals are all balls she is throwing up for in you in hopes you knock them out of the park.

The Cominator says:

Im saying if shes talking about that she not going to make it difficult though she may make it hard lol…

Adam says:

Long distance relationships don’t work, women require daily attention and supervision. Even dating living separate is difficult. Much easier to keep her in line when she’s living with you. More sex, less drama.

Red says:

Men love to believe they do work because they’ve been told women only cheat if they’re unhappy.

Adam says:

We are natures perfect fools. With top down enforced patriarchy it works quite well.

The Cominator says:

Ask her to wear something besides trousers (i hate next that women wear pants nowadays makes it hard to escalate to sex) next time you meet her out get her alone and just grab her and kiss her then escalate (quickly) to pussy rubbing and (less quickly) fingering, sex should follow.

Red says:

I’ve never had issues with girls wearing pants. Hand goes down the pants, get her aroused, pants come off. I think women wear them because it requires more force to start sex, which they like.

The Cominator says:

The best way to get them aroused is to touch the area that causes them to get aroused (as long as you’re pretty sure they are not going to cry rape) with pants it doesn’t work and I hate that girls wear them now.

kawaii_kike says:

Not to turn the discussion overly explicit but what do you do if she refuses to have sex after pussy rubbing and fingering? Is it just last minute resistance or something more serious?

jim says:

“Refuses” What do you mean “refuse”?

You don’t ask her, you just sail right ahead.

At this point in the interaction, nobody should be verbaling.

kawaii_kike says:

So in hindsight, I definitely failed this shit test. We agreed to meet at a hotel but she insists that she doesn’t want to have sex. We get to the room and do everything but sex so I think shes ready but before I put it in the bitch starts hyperventilating and crying but no physical resistance. It just freaked me out so I stopped.

Kunning Druegger says:

Yes, in terms of pure Jimian mechanics, that is a failed shit test. But crying during sex *without rutting or multiple orgasms* is never a good sign. You probably dodged a bullet bro.

Apropos of nothing at all, I hope you are safe and well brother. It always makes me smile when you comment, reminds me of the silent legion of BJC tribe members out there.

Red says:

I think Adam has the right of it:

Overcoming last minute resistance is like driving through traffic. Start, slow down, stop. If she says something just keep things light and start back up in a minute. Do that a few times and your good.

I’m typically skip the normal slow escalation that’s involved in foreplay and I do exactly like he describes, Start, slow, stop if I meet resistance. I then back off and start again shortly later. I suspect this builds a level of comfort because it seems more like a game.

Red says:

The one time I listened to a girl when she said she didn’t want to fuck resulted a very frustrated and angry girl the next day. She was stunned when I just took her home after a bit or foreplay.

Women put up barriers because they you to over come them.

Red says:

*Women put up barriers because they want you to over come them.

Kunning Druegger says:

>Women put up barriers because they want you to cum in them

ftfy

Adam says:

Overcoming last minute resistance is like driving through traffic. Start, slow down, stop. If she says something just keep things light and start back up in a minute. Do that a few times and your good.

Red says:

Women don’t wear dresses where I grew up. Getting frisky while working her pants off is normal. Sure dresses are easier and sexier, but I find that the little force necessary to apply to pull her close and popping the top button off tends to increase her arousal. You have to overpower her to do it.

The Cominator says:

With dresses you dont have to be completely alone you can get them hot in more places and with less risk of getting accused of a crime if she greatly objects… pants on girls suck.

Red says:

Always get a girl alone when making a move. It never works well in public.

Com you’ve got the accusation thing backwards. You get accused only when you fail fitness tests.

The only time a woman accused me of a crime was when I failed those tests. I failed shits tests over and over again and then I found myself accused of beating her just like her previous boy friends had done. There was no evidence that I did it and it didn’t fucking matter. Best not to fail to fail shit tests if you don’t want to be accused.

The sorts of stuff where I got aggressive with her on dates, didn’t ask for her consent, I didn’t take no for an answer, and everything like that she loved. I was never accused of any of that. Instead she accused me of thing I refused her, striking her to keep her inline.

jim says:

Unless you are alone with the chick, and the chick perceives you as secure in your turf, that no one will be allowed to interrupt you, going to get nowhere.

The Cominator says:

With girls in dresses I’ve had some experiences otherwise… that after I was able to rub them there they were willing to go off elsewhere.

Adam says:

Pants on girls does suck in Florida, but it is not the same up north where it is cold. When girls wear pants here they are usually menstruating. You can tell because their demeanor changes and their mood is muted, they are closed off and a little defensive. Contrast that to ovulation where they will wear as little as possible. This has been my experience anyway.

jim says:

> I’ve been getting mixed signals from a female friend of mine

No such thing as mixed signals. Only one signal. They give you a shit test, or you are invisible.

> has a long-distance boyfriend

Has no boyfriend.

Alfred says:

Thanks Jim.

I find it funny the relationship advice aged, even liberal mothers give their sons tends to cleave far closer to what you get from online right wing men than you’d expect.

My mom has always told me that long-distance doesn’t work, don’t be an orbiter (“be unavailable/mysterious” is how she puts it), never ask her where she wants to eat/what to do on a date, make her jealous and show you have options etc. I suppose that’s what happens when both converge on the truth.

Rux says:

Stone-cold truth. When a girl says she has a boyfriend, regardless of distance, declare that she’s single. They love that. Unless she’s married she’s game.

I did once hit a limit with a girl who was engaged with a fella cross country with a wedding date six months out. She wasn’t bothered and for a roll in the hay neither was I. What got me was her visiting him and posting pics online with the bloke at a football game and 15 minutes later sending me sultry pics from the bathroom. I felt bad for the guy, something akin to a bro instinct kicking in, wanting to let the guy know he’s being cucked before even being married. Needless to say I couldn’t carry on and found out from the girls coworker that, naturally, the marriage never came off.

Kunning Druegger says:

You’ve gotten all the advice/support you need, so I will bite the bullet and provide the stodgy, over-principled response, just to keep things interesting, and I will accept the deserved beating from all the heartless Casanovas ITT.

It’s bad luck to be the guy that fucks up another man’s relationship. Jim is 100% correct (long distance relationship is not a relationship), but consider the totality of the circumstances here. Based off of the factors you outlined, through the lens of my experience, I am pretty certain she’s probably fucking multiple different men already. As St. John pointed out, she is sending mixed signals, but not “i want it/ I don’t want it” mixed. She is probably just a stupid slut that needs to be policed pretty hard, meaning she’s just a winner take all box for any guy. My advice is: be wary.

If she was guaranteed to be marrying some bluepilled soycuck AND you were going to fire live rounds at her uterus, then full speed ahead, bastards are merit badges for based BAPian buccaneers. If you’re just trying to get your rocks off, be careful. Cunts like the ones I am describing (which may or may not be the chick you’re describing) are liable to inspire violence for fun. If she’s a coworker or regular in your social circle, you may be opening a nasty can of worms. And, if you think she may be relationship material, good luck with having any peace of mind in the future.

Alfred says:

I appreciate the insights.

>Based off of the factors you outlined, through the lens of my experience, I am pretty certain she’s probably fucking multiple different men already.

I don’t see her 24/7 so I obviously can’t outright refute this. I do however see her very, very often and we have rather busy schedules besides. Basically every time either of us socialize, the other is around too. And if she were doing this regularly, I think I or some of our mutual friends would have figured it out by now. She’s not on any dating apps– I’ve looked through her phone for another innocuous reason before (and I’d probably have seen her profile on them already lol).

All that to say, I personally doubt this is the case with her. Not to sound too NAWALT. Not that I don’t think she is totally incapable of this. If I did think she was doing this, I’d probably not be interested at all.

> If she’s a coworker or regular in your social circle, you may be opening a nasty can of worms. And, if you think she may be relationship material, good luck with having any peace of mind in the future.

Yeah this is the case, and the biggest red flag for me. I don’t think I’d want to marry her, for this and another reason. Problem is there is just a complete dearth of women that aren’t fat or tattooed/fucked up somehow where I am right now. I’m already pretty burnt out on one night stands, and I’m not far from aging out of where that’s still socially acceptable/feasible anyway.

My better judgement is probably to hold off from this one in particular, but I have a feeling the want for more consistent sex would win out if the opportunity arose. We will see, God help me.

Kunning Druegger says:

If she is valuable, she’s worth abducting and breeding. I am not perfect, I have made many mistakes, but the one I regret most was waiting so long to start a family. That colors my perspective in all things. My advice to most men is knock her up, lock it down, work it out. I know this is suboptimal, but we are in a full spectrum war against principalities and powers. I know other, far smarter men here disagree with me, but I am resolute in my stance that men as leaders must be married with children.

I don’t know you, but I am going to take a wild stab here: I think you have “caught feelings” for this lassie. If I am correct in that guess, then I apologize for speaking so crassly of her. If you do see a future with her, how you manage this beginning is going to be important. Little stuff that doesn’t matter in hookup culture becomes perilously important down the road in serious relationships. It’s brutally unfair for both men and women, but them’s the breaks. If you are looking for a fuck spot, you have to just deal with the risks. If you are looking for a mate, and you are considering this girl, you need to be ready to flout man’s laws and customs (per Jim’s correct assertion that actual marriage is illegal). The popular saying is “if she cheats with you, she’ll cheat on you,” and while this is often correct, I think it’s more complicated than that.

I’ve probably spoken more than I’ve helped here, so feel free to discount all of this.

Alfred says:

No need to apologize at all. You’ve given advice that is largely in line with what many people IRL who care deeply about me have given me.

Could say I’ve “caught feelings”, but they’re more along the lines of wanting to get my rocks off than lovey-dovey…but, I guess there’s some level of the latter too. Maybe it’s just because I’m getting older and putting what game that I’ve learned to heart. I do enjoy spending time with her, but I suppose I’m not allowing myself to get as caught up in feelings as a younger me would have.

The reality of my situation is I either get what will probably be a temporary relationship with this girl due to my/our circumstances, or I have no woman for that time period and subsist like a beggar on one night stands. Which as others have pointed out is liable to make a man miserable sooner rather than later.

nemo says:

[*deleted for unhelpful ignorance of women*]

Red says:

A co-workers who had used to be a decently smart programmer, maybe in the 115-125 IQ range is showing signs of mental decline. I had to explain to him a pretty basic 2 page SQL update query I’d written 4 or 5 years because he didn’t get it. I never bothered to comment the script as it wasn’t very complicated, I just tossed it into the document store for later use if a particular issue popped up again.

He tried to rewrite it because he didn’t understand what it was doing. It took me 4 times as long explaining the process to him as it would have had taken me to verify the data and run the update. He has become angry and snappy all the time now. True believer in the vaxx, 4 doses. The mental decline is real.

jim says:

Unscientifically looking around, and calling it by the seat of my pants, I would say that each jab causes small but noticeable mental decline, and the effect is cumulative.

Pax Imperialis says:

Mostly off topic, but tangential to programming.

I used to handle office hours for an intro programming class in college. There was an extremely dumb woman couldn’t understand loops. I spent several hours every single office hours shift 3 times a week reexplaining loops to her the entire semester. She never got it. She only passed because code was literally spoon fed to her out of frustration by both me and others including the professor. Partly because the university admin complained too many were failing in the intro classes. She now works at a top software company as a programmer. Meanwhile I know some absolutely brilliant programmers who can’t even get hired by the big companies and are freelancing (quite profitably).

Red says:

I’ve spent a lot of time teaching women to code. I’ve found one woman out of hundreds who made an OK programmer, the rest where awful but they’re hired in spades these days.

Part of my job is telling my boss what jobs the women won’t fuck up(but spend 15x the time on than a male coder) and which jobs the actual programmers should be assigned to. It brings no end of anger to the male codes that the worthless female coders get paid just as much as they do. Fortunately we don’t have to deal with any black “developers”. Computer coding and nig nogs are so far apart that that you might as well be trying to get a dog to drive a big rig.

The Cominator says:

If you’re a white guy without connections and are anything less than a prodigy genius you’re probably literally better off driving a truck than going into programming or engineering.

Pax Imperialis says:

Freelance programming gigs can be extremely well paid. I’m half convinced from the stories I’ve heard that it’s how big companies get around their diversity hires. And the whole work from home aspect means no supervision and minimal work. Main problem is that it isn’t steady.

That said, truck driving is a pretty good career at places like FedEx and UPS. Contract drivers though get shafted a lot.

Red says:

Freelance programming gigs can be extremely well paid. I’m half convinced from the stories I’ve heard that it’s how big companies get around their diversity hires. And the whole work from home aspect means no supervision and minimal work. Main problem is that it isn’t steady.

The problem with Freelancing is how to get established as a free lancer. Young kids just getting started can’t do it.

notglowing says:

> Freelance programming gigs can be extremely well paid.

Can confirm as a freelancer myself.
But it is extremely inconsistent and marketing yourself is difficult. I am entirely reliant on word of mouth and if my circle of clients has no work for me I am out of luck.

@Red

> The problem with Freelancing is how to get established as a free lancer. Young kids just getting started can’t do it.

Indeed. It’s not something I think I will be able to do in the long term unless I am lucky enough to become well established. I don’t have an impressive portfolio. But it’s enough to land me a wage job if I became desperate so there’s that.
Had the VCs not gotten cold feet after the market went red last year, I would’ve put my name on something big. Nearly missing such a chance is frustrating.

Fidelis says:

If you have no experience, apprenticeship is necessary. In software, the apprenticeship program is open source. Find an open source project used by many many companies, make contributions, then leverage connections and experience you made doing that to find work (“draw the rest of the fucking owl” level advice here).

Pax Imperialis says:

Adding on to Fidelis.

There are a quite a few small indie app dev companies, many of which appear to have been start ups by a collection of freelancers. I don’t know how profitable they are, but they must be getting the bills paid. Network, network, and network. Programmers are humans, they go out and drink. You’d be surprised by how many programmers hang out on local city Discord channels tied to r/[cityname]. Just try to ignore the faggotry. That’s the hardest part. I don’t get what’s with CS people and tranny shit.

Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

Consider the Matrix.

The discorporeality of life through intermediated worlds – media itself – lends a superficial ease to alienation from being-in-the-world.

And thus, the ease at which some may fall dualistic fantasies, where the Territory is as easy to rewrite as its Maps.

Pax Imperialis says:

I’ve been exploring Discord recently. It’s got more AIDs than /b/ ever did in its heyday.

The Discord (male) trannies masturbate extensively if the extensive quantities of (straight!) porn is any indication. That is a corporeal heterosexual act. Surely they are in tune with their manhood?! How then, do they decide to cut of their penis?

There was this one guy who was dating a woman, he transitions on her advice. Several months later she dumps him and now he’s “dating” (I can’t see how if there’s no penetration) his ex’s female roommate… Shit is bizarre. The guy is decently intelligent too, it’s like if Scott Alexander (Slate Star Codex) went polyamorous tranny.

Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

>The Discord (male) trannies masturbate extensively if the extensive quantities of (straight!) porn is any indication. That is a corporeal heterosexual act. Surely they are in tune with their manhood?! How then, do they decide to cut of their penis?

Classic cumbrain. Not in spite of excessive masturbation, but because of it.

Aidan says:

Most of them don’t cut their cocks off. Male trannyism is a result of incel, of men who spend so much time fantasizing about and jerking off to women that they want to become the goddess they worship.

Red says:

Most of them don’t cut their cocks off. Male trannyism is a result of incel, of men who spend so much time fantasizing about and jerking off to women that they want to become the goddess they worship.

This is an interesting point. From my own experiences with incels I think it is likely at the root of a lot of it outside the faggot crowd. They used to role play as women in games like WOW and now they role play in real life.

Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

It used to be common knowledge that tranny ideation was just autogynephillia 99% of the time; which of course, quickly became verbotten knowledge.

Pax Imperialis says:

>tranny ideation was just autogynephillia

I think falling testosterone and medical estrogen availability is driving the tranny stuff far more than classical sexual perversions ever did.

I’ve been talking with those people, and an awful lot seem to be living in cult like groups with lots of enabling. They guy I mentioned earlier was dating a woman on meds for schizophrenia.

50 years ago they would probably just be mostly functional transvestites.

Red says:

I think falling testosterone and medical estrogen availability is driving the tranny stuff far more than classical sexual perversions ever did.

It’s the artificial high status + social power that’s driving it. Broken fucked up people are jumping on it because it’s ludicrously easy to do.

Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

It’s all of these things of course, but one novel factor to the dynamic that also deserves elaboration is the effect of telecom mediums itself.

A classic example illustrating these phenomena would perhaps be that accident of history, the birth of ‘furry’ subcultures in the mid to late aughts through the internet; which showed a prototype of what would happen with all the tumblr, twitter, and social media addict sets that would come later.

For many of the orphaned children of modernity of the time, future trigger-pullers in the meme wars, this was their first lesson in the principle that it is not simply the pretexts involved that matter, it is the *people* involved that matter; that the only thing worse than pictures of anthropomorphized dogcock, were the people dealing in it in the first place.

So what did whacking it to toon porn have to do with aggressively offensive degeneracy in terms of taste, habits, or inclinations, anyways? While one might, at length, be able to sketch out broader mytho-poetic connexions between the ansibles of A in reality and the attraction of B into reality, on the face of it it would seem like just an odd coincidence, wouldn’t it?

Furfaggotry in the early days of the internet was like a sewer drain, a place where all the headcases that would make a hash out of life everywhere they went would all somehow end up falling into; and as the tumor grew it would develop suction, the gravity of its pull on such kinds growing as such kinds were pulled, ultimately occupying a sort of perverse schelling point. People falling into a furry community weren’t just getting into furry, they were getting into a *community*; conga lines of congenitally solipsistics enabling each other’s neuroses in feed-back loops. Whatever the starting points, the end point was always gay HIV positive communists.

~

The sheer scale of atomization on every level in every respect in subjected societies of the atlantic empire means, amongst other things, that there are a lot of formless maybes with no strong sense of identity, purpose, or patrimonial attachment; and which of course means there is never a short supply of potential victims for power-approved forms of culticism.

notglowing says:

Discord is how I networked. I met some smart people who ended up being successful in my industry later on, and I got their respect thanks to my knowledge.
So I had connections and managed to find clients through them.

But I think I was lucky. Wherever I look, software projects are infested by faggotry and trannies, especially open source projects. Even when they are started by good men they converge quickly, and almost nobody in the space understands the problem.
It’s absolutely pervasive, and I am fortunate enough to be in a bubble of sane people.

Fidelis says:

But I think I was lucky. Wherever I look, software projects are infested by faggotry and trannies, especially open source projects. Even when they are started by good men they converge quickly, and almost nobody in the space understands the problem.
It’s absolutely pervasive, and I am fortunate enough to be in a bubble of sane people.

Anyone here have any ideas on building and growing networks that are less gay? If we can’t even occupy cyberspace we are well and truly fucked.

notglowing says:

The fundamental issue is that you’re going against the current state religion. Something that “everyone” is either a passive believer in, or a true zealot.

This is the dynamic. You can’t create a “sane” community, because as soon as it receives some recognition it will be invaded by faggots. They will start by demanding things like a Code of Conduct. Which means openly and officially acknowledging and supporting their beliefs in your rules.

You can’t oppose this sort of thing without being openly reactionary, but then your project loses the normal, average people, and becomes a group of heretics. Which makes it a target for everyone else, and it makes it dangerous for anyone to contribute to, since you will be labelled a heretic too.

It’s not dangerous to be a faggot, so the faggots will make their own fork, and anyone who doesn’t want to be cancelled will work on that. It doesn’t matter if the insane people are less competent because of how everyone else will be targeted by the system if they decide to associate with heretics.

The only way forward in this environment that I can see is to build a community that is openly reactionary and opposed to the status quo. But it also needs to be decentralized and impervious to attack. Even so, it would be limited in its ability to effect anything real since people in it will not want to associate their real names and companies.

The alternative to this is to simply have closed communities. That’s what people do today, including myself; it’s a fragile environment, but you can simply have circles of friends who know and trust each other. You can just not be a target through obscurity and lack of any written rules. You exclude people who do not fit.

jim says:

> You can’t oppose this sort of thing without being openly reactionary, but then your project loses the normal, average people, and becomes a group of heretics. Which makes it a target for everyone else, and it makes it dangerous for anyone to contribute to, since you will be labelled a heretic too.

I think it feasible to oppose this sort of thing, but have not attempted the experiment yet.

Failure to oppose this sort of thing will destroy you. The open source movement is being destroyed. Open source is a dead man walking.

The thing is, the left is pretty much openly demonic and self destructive these days. For a long time compromise was the sensible option, and all normies agreed to compromise, but the demands of compromise have become ever greater, and it has reached the point where compromise is no longer a sane or practical option.

You cannot have a family and a reasonable sex life unless openly reactionary on women, and you cannot create software unless openly reactionary on victim classes.

Just as comic books are no longer viable unless openly reactionary, open source is no longer viable unless openly reactionary. A viable open source project has to have a code of conduct that looks something like this.

Fidelis says:

@notglowing
I know, but I think you are overselling.

You can’t oppose this sort of thing without being openly reactionary, but then your project loses the normal, average people, and becomes a group of heretics. Which makes it a target for everyone else, and it makes it dangerous for anyone to contribute to, since you will be labelled a heretic too.

You can be openly reactionary in such a way that it is subtle and mysteriously repels most faggots. Very strong crimethink is impossible for the faggot to notice, and those shills that manage easily filtered back out. The average greengrocer has become a faggot, unfortunate, but you don’t need thousands. You need only and can get by with a small handful until escape velocity is reached.

@jim

Your CoC is greatly amusing and correct but reads too much like one of your posts instead of a, well, Code of Conduct. Too much crimethink for the sake of crimethink, and while it is supporting the key rationale of the document and the needs and purposes of such, is also distracting and more timely than timeless.

jim says:

> Too much crimethink for the sake of crimethink

Everything there is a direct defence against well known and much repeated attacks that are destroying every open source project. Give an example and explain why some item is unnecessary “crimethink for the sake of crimethink”

I did not think there was any crimethink merely for the sake of crimethink. That all the crimethoughts there are relevant and necessary to address attacks by the security agencies on cryptographic software and attacks by the victim priesthood upon the tech priesthood, in particular, forbidding the attack by the victim priesthood on Linus, the creator of the Linux kernel, and the attack on Richard Stallman, the creator of Gnu tools.

As for not being timeless, yes it is directed at the battle of the moment, at the tactics our enemies are using to destroy technology today, not the tactics they used fifty years ago, nor the tactics they might use in fifty years time. It is a direct product of and reflection of the battles happening now.

It is a document of the current year, intended to make open source development possible in the current year. In a few years time, the attacks on tech will be different, but the aim will be unchanging, to put us back in the stone age.

Just as the vaxxers don’t like humans, want to radically reduce the population, especially the white population, the trannie and Shaniqua open source movement does not like technology, especially technology that is widely distributed, that empowers the end user. They want us to live by scratching the dirt with a digging stick. They are the same people who want to stop fracking. They think that science, technology, and industrialisation sprouted from the fertile soil of subsaharan Africa and was stolen from the brave and stunning warrior women of Wakanda by white male rapists, and needs to be returned to Africa and buried in the fertile soil to sprout anew. They are hostile to working code in the same way the vaxxers are hostile to life, health, and fertility. They see someone who has something, because he built something, they are angry, they say “You did not build that”, and destroy it so that he does not have it. The priests of victimhood want to destroy what the priests of tech built.

Anonymous Fake says:

[*censored, again, for using the word “meritocracy” unironically, again.*]

jim says:

Every time I let through your use of the word “meritocracy”, I feel compelled to post a lengthy screed explaining why it is wrong. And you just sail right ahead as if everyone agreed that academic merit was an unalloyed good, and everyone should get value according to his academic merit.

Anonymous Fake says:

I didn’t use it unironically. I said “meritocracy cult” in that context. The continuing meritocracy meme/cult well past the point of reason and the failure to fairly deal with the last reasonable people who were fooled is the issue.

As an aside, I think any institution that needs to go, but where there isn’t enough power or willingness to punish former perpetrators and compensate former victims, is put down by the black power meme. It makes the blacks angry and has to go, whatever it was, and that’s the end of the debate.

I also add that blaming priestly power for our problems is mostly based out of respect for the WWII generation. Everything they fought for was taken from them by evil priests who took over the law schools by blatant grade inflation, exploiting the well meaning (but ultimately wrong) tradition of local schooling. I don’t think we’re going anywhere saying WWII vets fought for globohomo, even if it’s more true than we want to admit.

Red says:
Adam says:

“It was a coin flip and some guessed right”. -Scott Adams. What a bunch of insufferable cunts.

Red says:

Once that study on the spike proteins causing heart damaged was released, that should have been the end for anyone supporting the vaccine. Yet entire nations with much less corrupt medical systems like Japan mRNA the shit out of their people. High status drives people and mRNA jabs was the highest of the high status.

Mister Grumpus says:

Spot on. Getting MRNA jabbed was the most risky and therefore trusting of authority way to go. “See? You can trust me.” Proof of faith. An atrocity against the self.

Even if the normal vaccines were just as good, taking one would reveal that you didn’t “really believe”, and were just going through the motions. Suspect. “Politically unreliable.”

It’s modern man denying his inherent religiosity, and being unwilling to see it in actual practice, that maddens me the most.

Mister Grumpus says:

Some knowledge, some truth, is just too low status to be worth believing by most people.

There was plenty of information out there that Covid wasn’t bad enough, and this vaxx thing WAS bad enough, to make sitting out the vaxx the best call in terms of risk-management. But that information, as genuine as it was, had been associated with those icky Q funny hairstyle people, and was thus “inadmissible in court”, if you will.

simplyconnected says:

He even posted a concenssion video in which he claims that “all of my fancy analytics” couldn’t beat the “anti-vaxxers'” “heuristics”. Good Lord.

Arakawa says:

The prevailing heuristic in this situation is that grifters gotta grift.

Red says:

Looks like original Covid, then J&J, then 2 mRNA boosters. No immune failure from that combo since catching the COVID before the mRNA seems negate the immune issue, but probably heart damage and possible brain damage.

Fidelis says:

He says so at least. I doubt it personally. Looks to me like he’s pushing the proper meme, which is vaksinating is bad for your health and cumulative.

Red says:

I hope so. I’ve been warning people I know that the vaccines cause heart damage since last year. Only recently are people taking it seriously or even really hearing it. A woman I know who’s been boosted twice and vaxed and boosted her children was shocked when i mentioned it again. She actually took it seriously this time. It’s no longer a thought crime.

jim says:

Still a thought crime, and a worse than ever thought crime, but more people are committing it, so safety in numbers.

Red says:

Crimestop on the subject seems to have stopped working at least in private.

jim says:

Critical mass. Enough thought criminals, the crimestop gets overwhelmed.

Red says:

That makes sense. I wonder if Twitter no longer instantly banning people for vax doubt was that critical mass?

Kunning Drueger says:

Almost certainly. The deluge of assertions when the consequences disappeared overwhelmed anyone trying to counter signal, and it went from obscure conspiracy theory to accepted assumption at light speed.

There are concrete and obvious reasons why Musk bought Twitter and why the Cathedral tried to stop him. Twitter is an IEW superweapon.

notglowing says:

It doesn’t look like an accepted assumption to me. But the difference is now there is far less risk in making these claims, and the people defending the vaccine have become rather silent.

But the latter had been true for a while, because the vaccine suddenly became irrelevant once restrictions disappeared.
Old people around me kept getting jabbed but no one else did.

None of the people I know who vehemently defended it seem to have changed their mind even a bit, though.
They can easily rationalize it. Don’t think many people will regret their position. They knew there were some people who got adverse effects, and they will just say it was a bit higher than estimated, and the vaccine is still proven “safe” because so many people took it, and the world didn’t end. It was worth it, covid would’ve been worse without it. Covid was better after it was introduced. That’s how they think.

The fact that it worked is difficult to falsify, because it just “reduced mortality” in some vague way, it “reduced”, rather than prevented, transmission, and vaccines never prevent infection anyways. People who think otherwise know nothing of past vaccines and are dumb and ignorant. Were anything specific to be proven differently they will simply remember it differently.
But all the claims are vague enough to not be clearly falsifiable, and there is no real control group population either.

That a certain amount of people died of covid, not clearly falsifiable either, since them dying with covid doesn’t prove it either way. They will claim they died of covid or didn’t die of covid depending on convenience to their narrative.

If only old and sick people died from covid, then you are evil and selfish for not wanting to protect old and sick people, who could’ve lived a few more years.

One guy online straight up told me early on that he thinks adverse reaction statistics should be hidden from the public because they can’t be trusted to understand that information. They don’t get how thousands of people can be statistically irrelevant, so they shouldn’t even be told anything.
This was early in the vaccine rollout, just as it was about to become absolute taboo to question it, but right before the mandates.

jim says:

> so many people took it, and the world didn’t end.

Death rate still rising, last time I checked, even though no one has been getting jabbed since Putin invaded.

As Scott Adams implied in his concession speech, if you got jabbed, you have to wonder what will happen in five years.

So Scott Adams, prominently, changed his tune.

There is a non trivial probability that most mudbloods die in a few years, though the proportion of mudbloods that have died so far is still small.

And, even if mudbloods stop dying at excess rates tomorrow, still looks as if most mudbloods get some small brain, heart, and circulatory system damage.

Guy says:

it does not seem like the cathedral tried to stop Elon from buying Twitter, in fact seems like they very much wanted him to while making a lot of noise in the opposite direction. Near the end as he was feigning backing out I remember a lot of “legal experts” suggesting that he would soon be forced to buy it.

It seems to me that is no longer a crime thought to question the vaccine, or at least it is quickly on its way to not being a crime thought, and it very may well be quickly on its way to being the Orthodox position. Whether that is used against Trump, or for something else, is hard to say.

pinochet's ghost says:

I don’t think the Outer Party who took these jabs and administered them to their children realized at the beginning that they were dangerous and ineffective.

Also, these people disproportionately got vaxed early, out of enthusiasm and to show loyalty, so they never got the warning of the many suspicious things that happened later.

I think they are unhappy and that the Inner Party cannot be completely unresponsive to their unhappiness. It can’t destroy its own cadres en masse to enforce party discipline on this.

jim says:

It was glaringly obvious from the beginning that the jabs were dangerous and ineffective. But, to the extent that people naively trusted the government (remember Scott Adams telling us to do a google search that included the words “fact check“) they were apt to disbelieve the glaringly obvious, on being informed that the glaringly obvious was low status and only low status people noticed what was in front of their faces.

It was obvious from the beginning from the way the jab was being pushed, and the measures used to push it, that those pushing it had some ulterior motive that they declined to reveal, that they hated us and intended to harm us, from which one might reasonably suspect that the secret ulterior motive was malicious, malevolent, and hostile. Once the campaign got rolling, the smell of a scam and dirty deeds, the smell of hatred and murderous rage, was overwhelming

pinochet's ghost says:

I don’t think it was glaringly obvious. They ran multiple randomized controlled trials that plausibly showed these medications worked. Vaccines historically have worked; these medications are not what vaccines were historically, but most people aren’t in a position to check and in any case won’t.

They produced a very plausible story for the vaccine efficacy.

I do not believe most Outer Party were knowingly sacrificing themselves and their children to Moloch, at the beginning. It turned into that, but did not begin as that.

jim says:

> I don’t think it was glaringly obvious. They ran multiple randomized controlled trials that plausibly showed these medications worked.

It was obvious that they were cheerfully breaking all the rules for randomized controlled trials, which was pretty good evidence that the medications did not work. I knew that before the jabs were available to me.

Before the first jabs were distributed, I knew these were coming from people who hated me and everyone like me, who had unspeakable ulterior motives, and I knew the randomised controlled tests were lies.

And even on their obviously faked and massively cooked data, it was still showing that the jab did not prevent people from catching and spreading it, which given what they were not testing for, was very strong evidence that it promoted the spread of Covid among the jabbed, by preventing them from ever developing proper natural immunity – “original antigenic sin”. A leaky vaccine likely indicates original antigenic sin, or issues even worse, and they failed to test for those issues.

What their (cooked) data showed was not that it made you less likely to get Covid, less likely to spread it, or likely to recover faster. What it supposedly showed was a reduction in severity of the disease. What it showed is that the treatment supposedly worked on the measure easiest to cook and fake, the measure that is routinely and regularly cooked and faked.

But if the vaccine did that, did reduce severity, and that was all it did, if one person being vaccinated endangered rather than protected the other people around him, which is what those multiple controlled randomised trials supposedly showed, then there was no reason to pressure and compel people to take it. The pressure had to be for some other motive, and that motive unspeakable.

If those randomised controlled trials had been evidence for what they claimed, which they were not, for lack of randomisation and control they were not evidence for anything, but if they had been true and honest, if they had proven what they claimed to prove, what they claimed to prove provided no reason for coercively imposing the jab, since they showed that the jabbed endangered those around them. Therefore the motive for coercively imposing the jab had to be something unspeakably evil.

When the initial jabs were rolled out, the ambulances were screaming, and the emergency rooms were full of heart attack victims. It was immediately completely obvious that the randomised controlled trials had massively understated the extent of jab sequelae, which was expected given the smelly way the randomised controlled trials had been conducted.

It also swiftly became apparent that if one was jabbed, one ran a risk of getting Covid immediately after the jab, and if one got Covid immediately after the jab, the effects were not mitigated, but rendered far more serious. As soon as this effect became obvious, it also became obvious that the data from the randomised controlled tests had been calculated in such a way as to ignore and exclude such cases. People who got covid immediately after the jab were counted as unjabbed controls, on the grounds that the jab had not had time to take effect. Thus is someone was jabbed, promptly gets a terrible case of Covid, keels over and dies, this was counted as evidence in favour of the jab.

Repeating: Even if those “multiple randomised controlled tests” had been multiple, had been randomised, had been controlled, and had been tests, all the supposed results showed is supposed benefit for the person being jabbed, not for society, not for people around him. Hence no reason for coercively imposing the jabs. That the jabs were coercively imposed was itself absolutely overwhelming evidence of an unspeakably evil ulterior motive, and even had there been no evidence that the “multiple randomized controlled tests” were lies, the evidence for an unspeakably evil ulterior motive was reason to think them lies.

Repeating again, since I suspect you will refuse to understand: The claimed result of the allegedly multiple, allegedly randomized, allegedly controlled, alleged tests was that the jab was beneficial for the individual being jabbed, but actively harmful for the society, for the individuals around him, that it provided selfish benefit, but not social benefit, so the claimed result of these tests failed to provide a basis for the massive apparatus of coercion that we got. Thus the existence of the massive apparatus of coercion was evidence that something was up, that they wanted to jab us for some reason that they did not want to tell us, which was evidence that whatever the actual effect of these jabs (produced by Shaniqua the black female genetic engineerette) the intended effect was hostile and harmful, that whatever the jab does to people, what it was intended to was motivated by hatred, malice, and hostility.

simplyconnected says:

[…] Therefore the motive for coercively imposing the jab had to be something unspeakably evil.

This is why I suspect the medium/long term effects to be really bad. The other reason is it makes no sense to trash the reputation of so many institutions to kill a few and make everyone a little sick.

Now that I have my tinfoil hat on.. if the 1917 flu deaths were due to a mass vaccination campaign, then perhaps the reason they waited a little more than 100 years to do it again is that they had to wait for everyone alive in 1917 to be dead (so grampa can’t warn the rest of the family).

jim says:

> I suspect the medium/long term effects to be really bad

I suspect the intended medium/long term effects to be really bad.

As you know, among the gain of function modifications of the Covid virus was a genetic sequence derived from Human Immuno Deficiency virus – the pos.

I think it likely that intended purpose of the covid virus was to make everyone pos, everyone immune deficient, and the purpose of the jab was to prevent herd immunity, so that people keep getting covid over and over again until they become poz.

simplyconnected says:

I suspect the intended medium/long term effects to be really bad.

Yes, right you are. One has to account for incompetence messing up the execution (lack of consistent manufacturing, breaking the cold chain, etc).

If that video of an mRNA clinical trial where most died turns out to be legitimate, then we would see the death rate shoot up around this year. However incompetent the lower rungs may be, the planners can’t be too stupid: one would think they tested the injections prior to attempting to inject the entire world.

simplyconnected says:

Trying to give everyone the poz with infection or injections makes a lot of sense (Luc Montagnier said those boosted should get tested for AIDS then sue their government). These sick bastards likely prefer to kill slowly while milking the population with medical bills.

alf says:

It was glaringly obvious, at least if one was not an NPC at the time, for many reasons. One I found particularly sinister was that effective medicine such as hydroxychloroquine and later ivermectine were blacklisted. We were supposed to talk only about the shots.

Mister Grumpus says:

“One I found particularly sinister was that effective medicine such as hydroxychloroquine and later ivermectine were blacklisted.”

That’s when I jumped off the official reality too. Done. Eject.

That’s when I know that the vaxx people were all idiots, evil people, or idiots working for evil people.

alf says:

What their (cooked) data showed was not that it made you less likely to get Covid, less likely to spread it, or likely to recover faster. What it supposedly showed was a reduction in severity of the disease.

When I brought this up in debate, the response was: ‘yes well the intention is to reduce the hospitals being overwhelmed.’

jim says:

Trouble is, of course, that the fully vaxxed and boosted are massively overrepresented in hospitals. But if you took the official data seriously (which I did not, but many people do) the jab should have reduced the demand for hospitals.

But before the jab came out, it became obvious that fears of hospitals being overwhelmed were bogus – part of the campaign of intimidation to persuade people to get jabbed.

Milosevic says:

Bad take. He’s obviously taken it.

Disappointing to hear to say the least.

Red says:

No Fidelis has a good point. Saying he took it while casting doubt on vax is the right things to do at this exact moment.

Milosevic says:

On what planet?

My double vaxxed normie friends are now copping it on the chin when I call them morons for getting vaxxed in the first place. No one believes the fairy tale anymore. Twelve months ago it may have been the right play but now is just retarded.

He maintained plausible deniability throughout the peak of the coronavirus hysteria and now when it least counts spills all the details? No, obviously taken it, obviously memetically compromised to a quite large degree.

He also believes in global warming.

Red says:

>He also believes in global warming.

Does he? Or was it an easy way to make a lot of money selling electric cars while working on his dream of Mars?

Consider the following:

First Musk buys twitter and it’s no longer possible to insta-gib good men speaking against the clot shot. Such speak the truth freely, committing thought crime after thought crime without the state being able to do shit about because Musk took their control. Then suddenly the vaccine pushes like Clot Adams are coming around and then Elon describes his own troubles with the vax. Instead of buying twitter to push his pet gripe, he bought it, let the dissent bloom and finally he pushes the truth over the finish line.

Milosevic says:

I’ve considered it briefly and it’s retarded.

Let’s keep it in reality mate.

Red says:

Shove it up your ass and light it you faggot shill.

Milosevic says:

lol i said keep it in reality mate. By what metric could I be described a shill? For saying your obviously retarded take is retarded?

Musk is clearly memetically compromised and that should be taken into account on any analysis of him or his actions. If we want to win we have to stay focused on reality, not some retarded 4D fantasy.

jim says:

Musk is a namefag. He has no alternative but to play it cautiously, or else he would be cancelled, deplatformed, and demonetized so fast it would make you head spin.

Did he take the vax? Maybe. Maybe not, for it would be dangerous for him to say “I am a golden pureblood”

Mister Grumpus says:

Cool it you two. Reading the minds of super geniuses is an inexact science. Schroedinger’s Cat and Elon’s Vaxx. Neither of us will ever know for sure.

(But yes, I too believe he’s lying about it. I also very much want to believe he’s lying about it. Funny how that works.)

Milosevic says:

Playing it cautiously is invoking plausible deniability.

“Yes, I’m vaccinated” (What vaccine? For what disease?)
“Yes, I believe people should be vaccinated” (For tetanus)
“The science is clear” (wrt structural engineering)

Not, “Yeah I got the coronavirus vaxx four times, the second one really hurt lmao, my kids are vaxxed to and so is my dog”

The bloke is compromised, pure and simple. No need to cope.

jim says:

All namefags are compromised. What else is new? Even namefags with nuclear weapons.

Starman says:

Elon Musk tends to pay lip service to the prevailing zeitgeist while doing something else.

Example:
He doesn’t denounce the US family courts, but acts as if he would if he was free to do so.

Milosevic says:

https://youtu.be/PbVSZvC7UxY

9:00 min mark.

That’s how you answer that question. That’s how he answers it a year ago.

It’s not a surprise to me that the guy who started Tesla because of global warming would get vaccinated.

jim says:

At the 8:56 mark, a powerful priest is threatening him.

Subtext: “You had better be jabbed or we are going to take that factory away from you”

Musk gave that answer when he was being threatened by a powerful priest for resisting the Covid hysteria. Things said under threat are not a reliable indicator.

Red says:

Musk in that video took the most anti-vax stance that was possible to take at the time and not get canceled.

Note Musk failure to mention what type of vax he took, something a true believer never failed to brag about. Hell these people where getting tats to celibate the jabs.

https://www.yahoo.com/now/people-getting-covid-vaccine-tattoos-193026661.html

Starman says:

@Milosevic

“the guy who started Tesla because of global warming”

Elon Musk started Tesla because ICE engines won’t work in a Lunar or Mars colony. All of his companies are for that goal.

Caesar Sextion says:

“At the 8:56 mark, a powerful priest is threatening him.”

If by “powerful priest” you mean “high-flying attorney, academic, and journalist who just happens to be Jewish.”

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeffrey_Kluger

jim says:

These occupations are new names for the roles traditionally performed by priests.

Further, reality is obvious that we have an officially unofficial state religion, and these people are priests of that religion.

Caesar Sextion says:

I watched your recommended video and I happened to notice that in this video you recommended everyone threatening Elon Musk is Jewish. What kind of religion is this where consensual auto-sterilization is a sacrament and all the priests are Jewish?

simplyconnected says:

Just a theory, but perhaps this is part of “cooling the mark” after the con. The SPARS simulation document specifically discusses how to guide the public to accept the deaths and injuries from a worldwide experimental injection campaign.

Red says:
The Cominator says:

Wasn’t quite sure how to respond to this and lets just say I go beyond not trusting them ever, because the Jesuits are hardly unique in that regard.

Red says:

The Anti-Jesuits meme is spreading.

pinochet's ghost says:

Your jesuit theory is utterly kooky based on the flimsiest circumstantial evidence

jim says:

He has assembled compelling evidence for Jesuits in the Covid conspiracy.

Further, it is obvious that the Vatican worships demons, and demon worship is the only logical explanation for the jab, that it was created out of self destructive hatred by demon worshippers.

You don’t have any evidence blaming covid and the jab on Jews.

The two biggest crimes were Covid and Feminism, not a Jew in sight on either one.

pinochet's ghost says:

“He has assembled compelling evidence for Jesuits in the Covid conspiracy.”

That Fauci went to a Jesuit high school in the 1950s, as did Pat Buchanan. That Fauci was awarded a medal by the Italian government.

Kookery.

“The two biggest crimes were Covid and Feminism, not a Jew in sight on either one.”

Feminism is lousy with Jews. All counter-civilizational social movements are, whereas covid-19 was not a movement or an ideology but just an operation, executed by relatively unknown people some way down the food chain.

jim says:

> Feminism is lousy with Jews

The elite hires Jews to do its dirty work. Jews and dot Indians. First wave feminism, not a Jew in sight. Second wave feminism, lots of Jews, all of them obvious minions, hirelings.

As for Covid, Orthodox Jews the number one target, Israeli Jews the second target, and whites coming up behind. And again, no obvious over representation of Jews in the campaign to force people to get jabbed.

pinochet's ghost says:

Where were the Jesuits?

notglowing says:

Far more evidence that this is in fact a conspiracy from within the medical establishment, who did in fact do everything.

The connections made with Jesuits just show that Jesuits are bad but there’s nothing really proving they are the ones that caused this.

The connection with Italy seems spurious because of how the virus started in China, and lockdowns were invented and enforced there first. Then in Italy, and shortly thereafter in the rest of Europe and the world.

The only thing in common with all aspects of the covid story is the involvement of academics in the field of medicine, and the rest of the Pharma machine.

The fact that Israelis got jabbed disproportionately doesn’t prove they were or weren’t responsible. It shows they had greater faith compared to others. It isn’t the vatican they believed in, it’s the doctor in a lab coat.

The Cominator says:

https://apnews.com/article/technology-lifestyle-music-business-coronavirus-pandemic-17d2db804564067b7265ac3a3f4957bc

So what were Fauci and the heads of Pfizer and Moderna doing together at Vatican? Fauci was not the only prominent Jesuit in the Covid crisis what about CDC director Redfield?

The jews are a fractious ethnic group the Jesuits otoh have ALWAYS been a spy agency.

i says:

Did a search on infanticide and came across this interesting information:

Caroline Norton – society girl, granddaughter of the dramatist
Richard Sheridan, and a writer of novels herself, had married at
the age of 19, the Hon. Richard Norton, who gave her 3 children
with a great number of bruises and unpaid bills along the way. It
was a disastrously unhappy marriage.

After one particularly bad quarrel, Norton took the 3 children and placed them under the care of a cousin. It was only then that Caroline became aware of her legal status. She discovered that in the eyes of the law she was
her husband’s property. She had no right to see her children if he
removed them from her; nor, having married the Hon. Richard, did
she have any rights over her own property or even the income she
derived from her writings. All belonged, in the eyes of the law, to
him. He refused to let her see her children.

As a woman she was neither allowed to sue or to be sued. Desperate to have her children returned to her, she contacted an old family friend, Sergeant Talfourd, who happened to be a Member of Parliament, and he ensured that by 1839 there passed into law the Infant’s Custody Act, which laid down that mothers against whom adultery was not proven might be allowed custody
of their children under the age of 7 but only if the woman was of
good character.

In those days a woman could not sue for divorce. Divorce, which
we now take for granted, was still something women could only
obtain if they were in a position to move a special Act of
Parliament – in each and every divorce case. Not until 1857 could
divorces be obtained through law courts, and even then, while a
man could divorce his wife on grounds of her adultery only, a wife
had to prove her husband had additionally committed incest,
bigamy, cruelty or desertion. And it was not until 1925 that women
were allowed full, equal guardianship of their children under
English law.

In 1839 as a result of the “Infant Custody Act”. Family Courts which destroying Families came into being.

Interesting that the Author of this paper rejected the teachings of Paul as culturally influenced. But made Christianity all about Gender Equality:
https://groups.psychology.org.au/Assets/Files/Women_in_the_Christian_Context.pdf

There are other “Christian” writers who claim that Christianity is about bringing equality to men and women

Red says:

Caroline Norton – society girl, granddaughter of the dramatist
Richard Sheridan, and a writer of novels herself, had married at
the age of 19, the Hon. Richard Norton, who gave her 3 children
with a great number of bruises and unpaid bills along the way. It
was a disastrously unhappy marriage.

After one particularly bad quarrel, Norton took the 3 children and placed them under the care of a cousin. It was only then that Caroline became aware of her legal status. She discovered that in the eyes of the law she was

He beats her but she always fighting with despite the beatings? That’s not how things work. If you shoot off you mouth to a man who then whoops your ass in a fight, your not going to shoot off your mouth again. Very likely he failed to establish real authority in his home and then failed to give her the sort of beating she wanted when she attacked him over and over again. He was so timid about it that he fled with the children.

But made Christianity all about Gender Equality:

Typical progressive lie.

The Ducking Man says:

>He beats her but she always fighting with despite the beatings? That’s not how things work … Very likely he failed to establish real authority in his home and then failed to give her the sort of beating she wanted.

Before jumping to conclusion, let’s entertain a basic question.

“Do women have free will?”

Let’s entertain the possibility that whatever befell on Richard Norton was simply because Caroline Norton choose to be evil wife.

Did Caroline had a choice to be good and subservient wife rather being a bitch 24/7?

Red says:

>“Do women have free will?”

Does it matter? Free will is generally a question asked in order to push people away focusing on how punishments and rewards are highly effective in modifying behavior. I personally couldn’t give a flying fuck if anything has “free will”, since I know that punishing behavior while rewarding good behavior results in better outcomes.

>Let’s entertain the possibility that whatever befell on Richard Norton was simply because Caroline Norton choose to be evil wife.

There are people who are broken who’s behavior can’t be modified through normal means. You kill such people. If that was the case with Caroline then he should have killed her instead of running away. The fact that he ran indicates either he was weak or that he didn’t have the propper backing to properly punish his wife.

The Ducking Man says:

>Does it matter?

Of course it matters because it opens up other variable when discussing women which is that some women are simply horrible piece of shit of human being because she has the free will to be horrible human being.

It matters to average joe like me because when relationship fails I don’t have to keep blaming myself.

Why does it when discussing relationship failure redpill/trads always respond to “As a man you are not doing enough”?. Keep blaming men for all world’s problem are no different than what feminism are saying.

>since I know that punishing behavior while rewarding good behavior results in better outcomes.

Do you really think reality works that simple?

>There are people who are broken who’s behavior can’t be modified through normal means. You kill such people.

Trads in his fantasy land where killing bears no consequences and biblical and civil law doesn’t exists.

jim says:

> It matters to average joe like me because when relationship fails I don’t have to keep blaming myself.

Well actually you should blame yourself.

Women are immensely malleable. You probably cannot compete with Jeremy Meeks, and even less with General Bucknaked, but assuming she has not banged them, there are no bad women.

When women do horrible, insane, evil, destructive, and self destructive things, as they so frequently do, it is because women are the weaker vessel. She does bad stuff to force you to man up and take charge of her.

The Ducking Man says:

>Women are immensely malleable

So you admit that women do not have free will. If that is the case fine by me.

At least we agree to disagree.

Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

In empirical terms, agency is a spectrum with many conditional variables; some entities have more of it than others, in different spreads than others.

RE: Free will. Consent. In the context of women.

If you think of women as but children of a larger growth, suddenly it makes sense. Are children capable of free will and consent? Can children be trusted to make decisions rationally and intelligently and in their own long term interest?

Men take decisions on information and intellect. While men are subject to emotions, when faced with big decisions, men tend to turn to rational analysis. Women, by nature, follow their instincts. This does not mean that they are not intelligent or incapable of making decisions, but that when faced with big and important decisions, they allow their instincts to rule them and end up making bad decisions. From which, a sane society ought to protect.

If you allow a child to grow in an environment where tantrums are not only tolerated but positively encouraged, the child is incentivized to throw tantrums which becomes increasingly annoying and intense. Ultimately the child grows up to be a total brat.

Women’s shit tests are but a more evolved form of tantrums. If you fail them, you get worse and with increasing frequency.

Now we have a state religion that not only tolerates but positively encourages women’s bad behaviour, empowerment through feminism. When women are incentivized towards bad behaviour and when the State makes it very dangerous and illegal for a man to punish bad behaviour in women, it becomes progressively worse until they become either utterly evil or insane, possibly both. The man suffers, the women themselves have it worse living alone and surrounded by cats in their sunset years.

I blame neither women nor men in today’s society, since a man has no lawful authority to punish or discipline his wife or his children. It takes great courage to resist the prevailing state religion to impose patriarchy at home. Hence clown-world.

Red says:

It matters to average joe like me because when relationship fails I don’t have to keep blaming myself.

I just lost my girlfriend. I know exactly why I lost her. I stopped playing the alpha and beta’d out. I can track exactly when I started betaing out and she lost attraction. A bunch of failed shit tests later and it was over.

I’m not kicking myself over it because I know what went wrong and how to do better next time. I have a big soft heart for women and dogs. This is a handicap when it comes to being their master.

Why does it when discussing relationship failure redpill/trads always respond to “As a man you are not doing enough”?. Keep blaming men for all world’s problem are no different than what feminism are saying.

Trads are wrong not because their advice of manning up is wrong, they’re wrong because they’re telling you to man up when you don’t have the tools or the backing to be man is fucking insane. You can’t legally punish your wife and trads don’t instruct men how to be a strong man because it’s a crime to be a strong man. Trads have a fundamentally incorrect view of what women find attractive in men making their advice insane without already established patriarchy.

The Red pill tells us that woman want to be owned and they want a strong and potentially violent master(Note they want that violence to be potentially used on them, so proving you can beat up other men isn’t enough). Such things are illegal and official immoral by the state church, so putting them into practice is very hard.

>since I know that punishing behavior while rewarding good behavior results in better outcomes.

Do you really think reality works that simple?

Yes. The hard part is rewarding a woman’s behavior requires you to be a strong and potentially violent master, something that’s illegal, trained against, and flat out consider immoral by the death cultists who control this nation.

>There are people who are broken who’s behavior can’t be modified through normal means. You kill such people.

Trads in his fantasy land where killing bears no consequences and biblical and civil law doesn’t exists.

This is typical McChristian whining. The bible commands that a husband kill his wife if she commits adultery. McChristians refuses to do this because they’ve taken the progressive shit pill and are no longer Christian. The Apostle Paul told Christians to obey civil authorities and was then executed for not obeying them. You should obey the civil authorities where they’re right and just and go around them when they violate God’s law.

Sure you might be punished by evil men for doing what’s right just in the eyes of the Lord. That’s just something men of good will have to endure. Or maybe a particular woman isn’t worth it. Just move on and find a new wife but be prepared to do what’s right and necessary with her if you plan to keep your new wife. Women and dogs need masters and part of being a master is the internal master frame and the willingness to use violence when necessary to keep them in line.

Though I recommend men use proper planning and don’t get taken alive if they’re prepared to execute God’s law. Cops already hate domestic violence calls because the sort of men who are willing to beat their women when they need it are also willing to shoot cops who enforce evil laws. They will be less likely to be interested when a bad women disappears if they know it might be dangerous to investigate it.

jim says:

I regularly get brutal shit tests in the early days of a relationship. I seem to remember that long ago, not so severe. Maybe because I was younger and handsomer back then, or maybe because these days you are competing with guys on social media. Shit tests that can only be passed by doing something highly illegal, and threatening to do something considerably more illegal.

I pass. There is no alternative but to pass your shit tests.

The Ducking Man says:

>I just lost my girlfriend

You just lost relationship in training, it’s a no consequence relationship, you give nothing into the relationship.

I’m never talking about people in “relationship”, I’m discussing in plane of existence where relationship carries long lasting consequences that requires full time commitment (i.e. marriage) especially married with kids.

I used to be young just like you, so I know exactly how fast to move on from “girlfriend” -> 1 week max.

>This is typical McChristian whining. The bible commands that a husband kill his wife if she commits adultery.

Because when you are married there are gazillion things that women will do wrong (and sometimes evil) that is not adultery.

For example Divorce Raping a husband for alimony and child support is a definitely evil action that is not adultery, perfectly legal, and not explicitly banned in bible.

Red says:

I’m never talking about people in “relationship”, I’m discussing in plane of existence where relationship carries long lasting consequences that requires full time commitment (i.e. marriage) especially married with kids.

I used to be young just like you, so I know exactly how fast to move on from “girlfriend” -> 1 week max.

I admit I wasn’t terribly attached to her. Not good wife material.

A friend of mine who was around 10-15 years older than me went through the nastiest divorce I’ve ever seen. She openly fucked men in their bed while he was at the house as a fuck you to him during the divorce. He suffered through it for months and when the divorce raping was over he got himself a younger hotter girl friend. She ended up being unwanted and undesired as all post wall women are. The whole process destroyed his kids though. They’re all shattered wreaks. I don’t know if they ever recovered.

Personally, I would have killed the bitch. Better to die a man than to be treated as a slave and a cuckold. He felt the pain was worth it so his kids would have a father and a mother. Unfortunately he died just 9 months after the divorce. His female doctor failed to properly treat an antibiotic resistant infection that he struggled with for months.

For example Divorce Raping a husband for alimony and child support is a definitely evil action that is not adultery, perfectly legal, and not explicitly banned in bible.

Being made a slave by a woman is a crime much worse than adultery. There’s no good answers when you’re being divorced raped. But as Jim said it is just one giant shit test, but passing it would be extremely dangerous and illegal.

I’m not a father, but I rather think that doing the right thing also involves doing the sort of things that makes your children want to also do the right thing. You have more to think about than just your life. One of my worst regrets growing up is I spent most of my time learning what not to do by watching my father. Weak and cowardly men don’t serve their children well.

But like I said, you can always start another family and do it right the next time around. I know you’re going through hell, it’s something I’ve seen it many times in the people I’ve known. It’s unnatural, immoral, and beyond evil what the progressives are doing to you.

However, your wife is just shit testing you. It’s a very evil shit test and one that should be fatal for her, but she’s just following her evolved instincts combined with the super weapons the Cathedral wants used on men. You are being destroyed because it’s what the Cathedral wants for all men. She would much prefer that you man up enough to put an end to what she’s doing to you. Both she and you might not long survive passing that shit test, but that’s honestly what she desires.

Ducking, I pray that you can find your way through this hell.

Redbible says:

The bible does not allow women to divorce their husband.

OT does allow the woman to leave, but not with any children (who belong to the husband) and not with any resources or money. A Woman who tries to leave with either of those is a thief.

OT also says to kill any who pass their children through the hands of Moloch. If a woman leaves with the kids, it is only time before she will “pass them” through Moloch’s hands. (Examples include: Chot Shot, take them to drag queen hour, give them puberty blockers, etc.) A man who will not protect his children from his wife is a cuck. Children are better off without a mother than a demon mother.

P.S. If a women is divorcing a man, she has already committed adultery in her heart. Her body will soon follow suit.

alf says:

Of course it matters because it opens up other variable when discussing women which is that some women are simply horrible piece of shit of human being because she has the free will to be horrible human being.

Sounds like real life getting you down. Stay strong Duck.

Anon says:

“He beats her but she always fighting with despite the beatings?”
You are assuming women are rational being.
most likely he beat her insufficiently/ out of desperation, which explain
why he fled.
Beta male beat women (hence the bruising) while men discipline.
A man discipline a woman is just and for a very clear reason after adequate warning and explanation of why she need a beating.
after some time of insufficiently beating a woman, the shit testing escalate until the only way to pass it is to kill her.

Red says:

You are assuming women are rational being.

I am not. Pain as a motivator in highly effective only when it’s used to establish dominance. He failed to establish dominance with the probably retaliatory nature of his beatings(IE she attacked him, and he mildly beat her back). Some women need to be beaten and beaten regularly. Doing so in a half assed manner results in failure.

Pax Imperialis says:

My elementary school bus driver told me he would bear hug and restrain his upset wife while whispering lullaby songs in her ear until she calmed down. Dude had a sense of humor. Now that I think about it, he said a bunch of other red pills to the boys on the bus. Military vet, probably killed some people based on how he reacted to some naive shit I said. I wonder how he’s doing after all these years.

Adam says:

It’s funny, everyone I know remembers the based bus driver, or history or shop teacher. But there is only ever one of them and often times he was a veteran.

Red says:

I didn’t know a based man growing up. The closest was my Grandfather but I lived 2,000 miles from him.

Your Uncle Bob says:

I had a science teacher catch me reading novels in his class; he loaned me his copy of Starship Troopers.

But you’re right, there was only the one. And I don’t imagine he’d make it long today.

@Red, I’m sorry to hear that.

I knew several in my father’s generation I’d like to call based, but out of the boomer generation there was something just slightly off about even the most based of them. That they’d lift weights, but do it off by themselves privately instead of talking about it and recruiting the way the new manosphere does. Or, on the evidence they must have known some pretty strong red pills about women but could only communicate them in code to the younger generation, if at all. So I’ve still had to rediscover some of what could have been direct transmission.

jim says:

> On the evidence they must have known some pretty strong red pills about women but could only communicate them in code to the younger generation, if at all

I was taught it sort of in code – the red pill was in the air that I breathed, but not explicitly nor consciously thought, nor said, nor taught. The official lie about women was accepted, but accepted as something of a joke. Trouble is, the younger generation failed to get the joke.

Adam says:

>If you shoot off you mouth to a man who then whoops your ass in a fight, your not going to shoot off your mouth again.

OJ beat his wife for quite a while and she kept escalating. A woman’s favorite drug is sexual attention from an alpha male. OJ was fucking someone else. Nicole was post wall and a mother.

An ounce of prevention is more valuable than a pound of cure, best to seduce your woman daily.

Western Taliban says:

The only thing I take from here is that even some novelist whore had three children back then in 1839… the most wine aunt meme occupation possible, while today we Europeans are literally heading to extinction.

Apparently making women property is some sort of biological imperative, considering under those circumstances even the most unlikely of them are having enough children. “Enslaved and oppressed” women with wine aunt careers have three children! But “free and emancipated” “Christian and traditional” women have a dog and a cat at most, even married with a millionaire and living in a rich and peaceful neighborhood.

Basil says:

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jim says:

All that you are saying might well be true, though I don’t follow the ethnic and racial distinctions you are making. What is the difference between a Caucasian and a Russian, and why is it a bad thing if Russia ends up Caucasian. Isn’t it already Caucasian? You seem using “Caucasian” to refer to some narrow, and possibly imaginary, ethnic group, while in English it is used to refer to a rather broad racial group. All whites, not counting Jews and suchlike as white.

But I am deleting your reports because I get the strong feeling that despite your supposedly pro Russian stance, you don’t like Russians, that there is something, I don’t know what, manipulative and deceptive in what you are saying.

Your are telling us Putin and company are bad for Russia and Russians. Maybe they are, but that is what the global American Empire is also telling us.

I am ignorant of things Russian, but this smells to me like making supposedly right wing racist arguments for left wing programs aimed at the extermination of the higher races.

Oog en Hand says:

“You seem using “Caucasian” to refer to some narrow, and possibly imaginary, ethnic group”

When used in the narrow sense, it refers to a cluster of three groups, of which two are possibly related.

1. Georgians
2. Circassians and Abkhazians
3. Chechens and Daghestanis. The latter are composed of Avars, Lezghs and smaller groups.

2 and 3 are possibly related. They are usually Muslim, and look actually whiter than Georgians. Georgians look swarthier than 2 and 3, but are usually Orthodox Christians. Georgian might be related to Indo-European and Afro-Asiatic.

Basil says:

Pardon me. When I say “Caucasians” I mean the indigenous people of the Caucasus Mountains and surrounding areas. To what has been said Oog en Hand, it is worth adding Azerbaijanis and Armenians, with their fairly noticeable diasporas. To refer to people of European origin, you can say “European” or “white”, “Caucasian” seems to me a rather unfortunate term for a number of reasons.

The global American empire shows that Russia is an anti-Russian state, because Russia is very sluggish in playing democracy and because Russia has not given enough legal privileges to sodomites and ethnic minorities. This is not my position. My position is that a country that previously had big problems with replacing its own population has intensified the processes of this very replacement, and the people whom this country replaces should not fight for such a country in external wars.

I don’t expect any government to be perfect and we need to wait for that perfect government with folded arms. But I at least expect the state to not try to kill/enslave me and people like me. The things that I am talking about clearly indicate the intention of the top of the Russian Federation to exterminate the Europeans, primarily the Russians themselves. If some Russian listens to me and leaves to live in some Uruguay/Montenegro/Mongolia/Ets, will work quietly, give birth to children and do other things, instead of risking life and health, conquering new lands for other people’s children, Europeans in generally more likely to win. If a miracle happens and Russia doesn’t end up like South Africa with Islamization (after everything that’s happened this year, it’s strange to count on that), this Russian or his children can be repatriated. In fact, now two miracles are needed: because NATO / countries of the Middle East are guaranteed to help Chechens, Tajiks and other freedom fighters cut off Russian heads and let Russian girls go around, milking the last juices from the thinning layer of white colonialists to its very end.

Your blindness, which allows you to not notice what is happening in Russia itself, is simply amazing. If the Russian Federation became a state for Russians, we would notice it, regardless of what the American empire says.

jim says:

Like anonymous fake, you are always producing supposedly right wing rationales for left wing programs, rationales that presuppose that we agree on left wing principles. For example that Russia should be “democratic”.

“should not fight in external wars”

The war in Ukraine is not an external war. Russia was and is under threat of being transformed into a satrapy of Globohomo.

Areas that are linguistically and ethnically Russian are all over the former Soviet empire, and when they come under Nato, Nato gives ethnic and linguistic Russians a very hard time – something that strangely seems to not worry you, though it clearly worries Putin and worries Russians in Russia.

So I don’t think you are on the side of Russians against the anti Russian empire. I think you are on the side of globohomo against Russia and Russians. Your criticisms of Putin and company are valid, but you are telling us truths that serve your master.

“To refer to people of European origin, you can say “European” or “white”, “Caucasian” seems to me a rather unfortunate term for a number of reasons.”

Your number one reason being that globohomo does not like race to refer to ancient history, but to current geography. We are caucasians. We are not Europeans. We conquered Europe and substantially eradicated most, though far from all, of the original people in Europe, a fact that globohomo seeks to erase.

This tortured language leads to such absurdities as the English calling people from the Indian subcontinent “Asians” They are primarily a mix of Aryans and Dravidians, neither of whom are Asian.

Fidelis says:

Not to countersignal, but he is saying his position is not Russia bad because no democracy, but Russia bad because… not explicitly white nationalist? Hard to say what his actual position is.

However the Russian state gleefully resettles South Africans and Old Believers, is the only place that even remotely attempts to reduce the status of women, and it is a remote attempt. Would be interesting to poke him to see what explicit anti-slav anti-Russian measures the Kremlin is taking, instead of vague allusions to a near universally terrible white birth rate.

Kunning Drueger says:

RWA podcast that talks about Russian demographics, among other things.

https://youtu.be/b7uxFWVjHgI

jim says:

> Hard to say what his actual position is.

Which is exactly the position of a shill who advocates left wing measures for supposedly right wing reasons. He is not upfront about his position.

Western Taliban says:

Would be interesting to poke him to see what explicit anti-slav anti-Russian measures the Kremlin is taking

The Kremlin is anti-slav and anti-Russian in the same way the State Department insists you are a terrorist and anti-American because you don’t want faggots grooming your children.

Basil IS anti-slav and anti-Russian and wants to murder all slavs and Russians like the State Department wants to murder you.

It is obvious to anyone who has had enough contact with real Russians, regardless of their political position, within this context. Because no real Russian will ever present his position and frame the war in Ukraine the way he is.

Here is a shitlib Russian woman who went psychotic and insane because West propaganda told her Russia was murdering Ukranians: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0OysQ7yQl_o when she learned the truth, all things changed. But regardless of her position and opinion on the matter, the importance of the matter itself has always been extreme, life changing.

No real Russian would ever disregard the importance of Kiev Russ the way he did, least of all call it “conquering new lands”. No real Russian would ever call Kiev Russ “new lands”, a city with a monument commemorating “whence all Russian peoples come”. All Russians know that Kiev Russ is Russia, and Ukrainians are brothers and as Russian as Russians, and they either feel despair at the idea the West media sells them that they have become evil kinslayers or understand the truth and the importance of helping and saving their brothers in Ukraine and the Donbass.

And you know that Basil really wants to murder all Russians because of all the possible things to whine about, he wants to complain against an ethnicity within the Russian Federation that is staunchly pro-Russia and pro-Putin and have a strong propensity to reject faggots while keeping their women property like the Taliban. He hates them because they burn rainbow flags and have many children, and he hates the idea that Russians will ever go back to this, he needs to drive a wedge between them and Russians to make sure that every Russian child is raped by faggots and every Russian woman turned into a whore, so that all Russians die.

jim says:

Pretty much my analysis.

Russia is now eighty percent Russian, largely because a whole lot of people who formerly identified as Ukrainian, or nationalities that have gone Nato, now identify as Russian. Fastbreeding minorities continue to identify as fast breeding minorities, but love Russia, because Russia protects them from Globohomo. And also because those of them that did not love Russia got crushed (winning always makes you popular, look how the Japanese and Germans love the USA)

Globohomo (and Basil) wants to fracture Russia into a horde of micro states on the basis of real and imaginary differences, but this smothering embrace of “separatism” is seen by the fast breeding minorities for what it is. They would rather be part of the Russian empire than the globohomo empire.

Wulfgar Thundercock III says:

Basil spelled Kiev as “Kyiv” in one of his early rants. He is a faggot shill, and for being a faggot shill he gets to go to the great gas chamber in the sky.

Basil says:

What has the Kremlin done to solve the problem of the birth rate of Russians? What has been done to stop Russian women from being whores? In addition to giving hundreds of thousands of Tajiks Russian citizenship and social security for single mothers?

Nothing prevented us from first solving problems in 140 million (possessing nuclear weapons – and hence the ability to pursue an independent domestic policy) Russia, and only then to save 35 million Ukrainians and 5 million Belarusians. Saving 35 million Ukrainians when you haven’t made any headway in saving 100+ million Russians suggests that saving the Slavs (any Slavs) is not a priority. If you cared about the Slavs, you wouldn’t be wasting precious time “saving the Slavs”, along the way utilizing the Slavs in a war in which the Slavs are fighting Slavs, until the Slavic country you rule, which is also the most populated Slavic country, ceases to be so Slavic. And along the way, turning the Slavs into the main target for destruction in the next major war, although Globohomo could break his teeth about some Iran.

All that remains for you is to rest on the question of sodomites. But sorry, there are many other countries where sodomites are not seen on the streets. There are no sodomites in Ulaanbaatar. There are no sodomites in Cairo. There are no sodomites in Yangon.

jim says:

> What has the Kremlin done to solve the problem of the birth rate of Russians?

Sponsored Orthodoxy, and backed away from the Duluth model. The birth rate increased by ten percent before the war, and the recent measures should increase it a great deal further. Russian men now have considerably more freedom to beat their wives. We have not yet seen the effect of that on the birth rate. When Russia built the great Cathedral, it stepped off the path of globobomo suicide, and onto the path of survival. Which of course led to war with the Global American Empire. A war fought to drape the rainbow flag over the great Cathedral. A war that you are arguing that Russia should lose,

War with the Global American Empire has resulted in purge of Global American Empire entryists in Russia, and has resulted in them purging themselves, which should make it a whole lot easier for Russia to walk the path towards a higher birth rate that it has been walking.

Independence from the Global American Empire is not sufficient to restore fertility, but it is necessary. Without independence, nothing can be done. Any country that takes actually effective measures finds itself at war with Global American Empire.

> Nothing prevented us from first solving problems in [Rump Russian state]

Putin tried that, and observe what happened. Internal enemies with ever stronger, ever closer, backing from external enemies. Global American Empire intervention in so many countries foreshadowed Global American Empire intervention in Ukraine. Global American Empire intervention in Ukraine foreshadowes Global American Empire intervention in Russia, which gives the many very holy Russian adherents of the high Church of Globohomo confidence in inevitable victory, which leads to more troublemakers flocking to the high Church of Globohomo.

And who is “us”? You sound like Jew, not a Russian. You don’t like Russians. No way a Russian is going to tell me that the Global American Empire was leaving Russia and Russians alone. Whenever Russians found themselves in Nato countries as a result of the fall of the Soviet Empire and the expansion of Nato, they got mistreated. The Global American Empire intends to eliminate the Russian language and the Russian ethnicity, and is not shy about its intent. It defines genocide very broadly for its enemies, and very narrowly for itself. By the broad definition of genocide that it applies to its enemies, it intends to genocide Russians, and has gotten started on doing so. All your supposedly right wing, supposedly pro Russian, arguments are arguments for the Globohomo program of splintering Russia into one hundred muppet states, and then soft genociding Russians in those splinter states the way it has been soft genociding Russians who found themselves in Nato states as a result of the fall of the Soviet Union.

Basil says:

[*endlessly repeated script deleted yet again*]

Oog en Hand says:

“but love Russia, because Russia protects them from Globohomo.”

If the Taliban defeated Globohomo, it is more likely that the Chechens protect Russia from Globohomo than the other way around. Also, if the Taliban defeated Globohomo then it is obvious the Taliban are more dangerous than Globohomo. Maybe less evil, but certainly more dangerous. But why do you think Islam and Globohomo are mortal enemies? After all, in Western Europe, Globohomo is importing Muslims.

“And also because those of them that did not love Russia got crushed (winning always makes you popular, look how the Japanese and Germans love the USA)”

Please explain why it is easy for Russians to crush Chechens, but very hard for Russians to crush Afghans. They have similar cultures, i.e. Muslim mountain dwellers.

Chechens may like Rossia, but they do not like Russkies. They despise drunkards and whores.

jim says:

> Please explain why it is easy for Russians to crush Chechens, but very hard for Russians to crush Afghans. They have similar cultures, i.e. Muslim mountain dwellers.

Holy war. It was not that Russians failed to crush Afghans, it was that communism failed to crush Afghans.

Putin’s regime is more acceptable to Chechens than Globohomo or Communism was to Afghans.

pinochet's ghost says:

https://dailystormer.in/japans-declining-population-and-global-sinoization/

Anglin, who appears to have been forced into the pay of the Chinese, denies his own anti-feiminist principles”

“This [Japan’s birth rate] seems to be a natural and fundamental thing that happens with humans in urban environments.”

Enough with this has-been hack.

chimo says:

Anglin:

they frankly don’t really even have feminism.

He clearly doesn’t understand what “having Feminism” means.

S says:

Anglin isn’t denying it- you can have feminism and above replacement birth rates (1950s US; Anglin appears to think Japan is similar). Jim thinks it is a feature of Asians that feminism is more toxic to them; Anglin thinks it is the social conditions (urbanization, pornography and male infantilization).

Anglin explicitly links feminism and fertility decline.
“The problem in China, like everywhere else, is that women are stupid whores and cannot be reasoned with. However, because China is not a Jewed-up democracy, they can just ban all feminist propaganda and start cutting off other avenues for sluts.”

Fidelis says:

In the interest of rectifying names, would you equate feminism with matriarchy? Then, would you say, for clarity, though I believe I can imagine a gradient, that which is not Patriarchy is by default matriarchy?

S says:

Patriarchy is an explicit legal and social system where men coordinate the ownership of women; matriarchy is when women do not have explicit owners.

Matriarchy is to patriarchy as anarchy is to monarchy. Feminists push for matriarchy, but you can have matriarchy in the absence of feminists (men unable to coordinate, ex sub-Saharan Africa).

Tldr; Yes, yes

SJ says:

If anyone hasn’t read Sexual Utopia in Power yet Roger Devlin addresses quite a bit about the effects from transitioning into a matriarchy plus he has provided a pdf of the book for free;

https://www.toqonline.com/archives/v6n2/DevlinTOQV6N2.pdf

Highly recommended.

Adam says:

Big cities are vile, putrid places. Boys and girls need to run around and have lots of fresh air. Boys especially need to go on adventures. Living in a city is like living in a school. It’s not natural, so of course there are going to be no end of side effects. A man needs land that is his own.

Fidelis says:

It’s not so bad when you don’t have packs of feral niggers running around. Yeah a backyard woods is much better, but a mature and healthy city has plenty to explore for a child.

Adam says:

Let me know when you can explore a city on a 4 wheeler with a rifle.

Pax Imperialis says:

Just today, while driving around a Western American city, where everything is spread out on flat plains, I saw a sheriff cruising around on his mighty black motorcycle, in full black tactical gear and his hand gun holstered at the waist; a long gun secured to the back of his vehicle in full view.

Imagine that feeling… hints of the old West still exists, even in some of the larger cities, but sadly it’s going away.

Now hopefully I didn’t doxx where I live.

Anonymous Fake says:

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Red says:

Anglin’s black pilled on woman. It’s causing him all sorts of dysfunction.

jim says:

White pill. Women are wonderful. At being women. At being men, a disaster.

If you truly internalise the red pill, you will appreciate that women are a helpmeet for man.

There is inherently a battle of the sexes. Which women want to lose and men want to win.

Trump 2024 says:

Anglin’s been shilling for the Chinks for years. What rock have you been under? It’s something we’ve all learnt to live with.

If you were banned from America and the banking system, living in SE Asia, and trying to stay on the internet, you might shill for the Chinks too.

I think he genuinely loves Asians though (especially their sluts). Again, what rock are you under? You aren’t a real White Supremacist unless you respect Asians.

Aidan says:

Cities have always been fertility sinks and IQ shredders, but when the difference is dropping average fertility from 6 to 3, they are not so bad. Cities have always had a underclass of migrant workers from the countryside, who generally had the lowest social status of anybody in the country, so their presence depresses fertility. Having a nice attached townhouse with a little backyard and safe, clean streets is less than ideal for fertility, but also not so bad. The wealthier urbanites used to do pretty well in fertility.

Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

More and more statal actors around the world are starting to cotton on to the fact that treating with the Atlantic Empire for patronage is not like hiring a band of mercenaries, but making a deal with the devil.

That the strings attached to its help are not mere treasure or tribute, but alteration of all that is to suit the dictates of its ruling faith – even and especially if such alteration entails the destruction of he who was soliciting the Empire’s patronage in the first place.

Islamic Mali and Burkina-Faso turn to Christian Wagner to secure order against globohomo instigated terror groups, the generational relationship with France finally severed.

More now than ever are paying heed to the old adage: to be USG’s enemy is dangerous; to be USG’s friend is often fatal.

Pax Imperialis says:

“I Am Altering the Deal, Pray I Don’t Alter It Any Further.”

Lucas really did capture the Anglo-American spirit. Unfortunately when I point out that the Empire is America to many Star Wars fans they get angry.

Red says:

As if the GAE could produce a badass on the level of Darth Vader.

Pax Imperialis says:

Don’t look at it literally. Think thematically. Vader is how liberals see Conservatives and the Empire is how they see the US government. Of course they view themselves as the heroic rebels (even though they run the government in actuality).

The Cominator says:

The Galactic Empire’s evil for 99.99% (ie not jedi and not preexisting planetary political elites) was socialism for purposes of plundering the private economy in order to massively build up the Imperial military… though Palps DID have a good reason to be doing so.

Pax Imperialis says:

That’s all expanded universe, most of which done outside of Lucas’s vision. Keeping with the movies Lucas was a leftist highly critical of the United States during the Vietnam war. Death Star is analogous to nuclear weapons. Perhaps uncoincidentally, only the Empire and the US ever used such weapons of mass destruction.

Jedi are people who have “transcended” base human emotions and attachments. They are a priestly class who act militaristically and insert themselves into conflicts they had no business being in for enforcing “peace.” All the while virtue signaling (“purely defensive NATO” bombing Serbia). They are basically activist leftists attacking the government while informally controlling the government.

It was the Communists and Socialists that wanted to redefine the family structure and remove attachments. Kidnapped children from their parents to enlighten them for “transcendence” beyond the old ways in keeping with blank slate doctrines. In reality it’s emotional and developmental mutilation (Thunberg). The Jedi do that and are suppose to be the “good guys.” They even shun reproduction (environmentalists).

It’s the Dark Side that embraces patriarchal dominance and family, but in Lucas’s twisted world view he displayed only examples of failed patriarchy and failed shit tests and used that to say: “look at how bad and evil patriarchy is!”

pinochet's ghost says:

Jedi are not that militaristic until the prequels. Compare the behavior of Obi Wan Kenobi to that of Han Solo on the Death Star in “A New Hope.”

Come the prequels of course every jedi is just Han Solo with a laser sword, because Lucas is an idiot actually.

Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

Lucas’ whole idea with the original trilogy was basically just to recreate the monomyth format IN SPACE. So in other words he accidentally made something good in spite of himself.

So naturally of course it all started going to shit once he stopped following a traditional formula and tried to roll his own. A significant amount of the direction in the OT actually came from everyone around Lucas who would tard-wrangle him away from whatever his most headass ideas that day were, but that all went away once he got clout too (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxKtZmQgxrI&list=PLZJ2yOBfQ1hr3wacUOgHhY_ZFZ2ujxAEo).

Redbible says:

Every trilogy of Star Wars has always painted “Team Good Guys” in a way that is Super Ultra Progressive, according to the era it was made in.

The original movies feature a diverse “Good Guys” team, and a Homogenous “Bad Guys” team. The “Good Guys” team includes (but not limited to): Slaves (Droids), Animal “People” (Chewbacca & Ewoks), Girl Power (Leia), Criminals (Han, also Chewbacca again), Non-Whites (Lando), and will include 1 Farm Boy (because we totes represent then working class.)

Team “Bad Guys” on the other hand is only white except for the voice of Vader (Because only black men are allowed to be Scary and/or Masculine.)
(Also Lucas wanted to replace the Emperor’s voice as well, but others on his team stopped that.)

The Jedi only get to pretend they aren’t genocidal in the Originals because they aren’t in power. The rebels are however perfectly genocidal in destroying the Death Star (Don’t kid yourself into thinking that a plant size vehicle wouldn’t have families and merchants on board. It’ not the the empire hasn’t been shown to be more friendly to families than the so called “good guys”)

The Cominator says:

Lucas liked the EU and a deleted scene from the original star wars (ANH) discussed the fear of property being nationalized by the empire.

EU cannon is based and Lucas liked it, Disney cannon otoh is pozzed.

Iq shredded says:

What happened in France? Couldn’t be that serious…also France is very far gone…

Kunning Drueger says:

There are 3 significant powers in Europe: Germany, Britain, and France. There are other substantial players (Scandinavia, Italy, Iberia) but so far, they don’t really act alone, though I can’t say whether it’s Can’t or Won’t. France is always portrayed as the coward, the weakling, the feminized, but I put it to you that both Germany and Britain are far more pozzed, while France, like the US, is a nation containing a severe dichotomy. Yes, there are French college professors demanding Arab dominance of society. But there was also a chief of police that quietly ran the domestic security structure and rapidly began militarizing the police (he was “caught” by a documentary film project… guess who paid for it). Of the 3 major European powers, France is likely the only one with any shot at reversing trends and restoring its position. There is no institutional opposition in England or Germany to the GAE. There is in France.

Red says:

France’s nuclear power sector is a good sign they’ll survive.

notglowing says:

The reason why France opposes GAE is the same reason why French people are often disliked. They are full of themselves. They are very proud of often fairly unimportant particulars of France and being French. They think they are better than others.

They get mad if you speak English or don’t pronounce their language very well, they resist English loan words tooth and nail and are one of a few countries not to use the word “computer” for computers.

Similarly, they have energy independence from the rest of Europe through nuclear power, they have their own special rules on a lot of stuff, a relatively sizeable military, and critically will not extradite their citizens to the US.

All the things I listed might be very good, actually. The question is whether French people are going to give up on *substantial* independence in favour of only caring about superficial cultural things, or if their national pride is genuine and actually survives globohomo in the ways that *matter*.

Too often it feels like the former option is the current reality. Given the amount of immigration they have, how they are now being colonized by their african colonies, etc. They’ll take blacks so long as they speak French.
But I want to hope that the latter aspect will prevail, especially given the language barrier which has been a precious weapon against GAE for other countries.

Italy would be far more pozzed if it wasn’t that few Italians know English, and vice versa. Our literature curriculum in public schools is still very good. Some of it based, even. And there just isn’t as much degenerate crap to replace it with in our language.

Rux says:

The French are irritatingly insular, expect when it comes to browns of course. The generation raised on Gabin, de Funès and Delon are all dropping dead while their children recreate little Brooklyns, same as any Western European city. The litter from the mid-20th century cheap labor heap, while fluent in French, don’t bother to assimilate (no pressure nor stigma), pump out brownlets and altogether sully once commendable districts. The countryside for the most part remains unpolluted, particularly where you find low country transplants who seem to be the only folks opening businesses. Forget the natives showing any get up and go.

The level of compliance to the Satanic strictures of 2021 was breathtaking and wholly disappointing. Hook, line and sinker. I summarily assumed a multi-generational proclivity toward totalitarianism as the reason. Precious little resistance. A truly depressing people. The Italians, for all their shortcomings, are much more fun.

Western Taliban says:

France and Britain will not survive more than 20-30 years as a people, it’s not realistically possible. They have already been replaced fully in many areas, they have a muslim mayor in London. It’s just fact based analysis.

And muslims are not progressive faggots, they keep their women property and they keep reproducing, their priests are actively fighting feminism and American soft power even in those countries, while the French are very proud of their empowered free whores and their “liberté” and the British are the fathers of liberalism and very proud of their empowered cat ladies, there’s like zero chance here. And the men? Hehehe…

If you think France and Britain can survive, it’s like believing California can remain Amerikaner without exterior interference, it’s not very realistic. The odds are even worse, because Mexicans and niggers are actually eating feminism up and suffering for it, they don’t have a real religion to fight that religious front, but the muslims surely do. Of course it’s not entirely impossible, as long as a critical mass of Amerikaners remain they ought to be fully capable of taking everything back inch by inch, but this is a very extreme theoretical.

alf says:

Not optimistic on France either. I think the countryside in many European countries can hold for a while longer. But ‘holding out’ is just not the same as ‘fighting back.’

Your Uncle Bob says:

An optimistic precedent for Amerikaners, and perhaps for the French, is the Spanish Reconquista. Which was uncertain, took centuries, and required a live faith, but they did pull it off.

But I don’t know much about the Reconquista beyond the superficial and official. So I don’t know exact of a model it could be for anyone today.

Western Taliban says:

I don’t wanna get too much into it, but it is not really a precedent because it’s a very different situation. The muslims took power militarily, it was an army of warriors holding political power, but the population remained basically the same for a very long time. The Spanish people didn’t get demographically replaced and the Spanish people had a perfectly viable fertility rate. Remember that back then the King and the people were not necessarily even the same race, this is hardly unique to Spain’s history.

What’s more, technically speaking most of the Reconquista did not take centuries, Don Pelayo came down from the mountain and started to win within the same generation. The Reconquista is not considered fully completed for so many centuries because of Granada. At that point some areas did have a lot of mongrels and muslims, but they weren’t even close to the majority and so they were easily purged through the years, some times at sword point but not literal genocide, just forcing them out like in Valencia.

By comparison, this is why I think the situation in France and Britain will be unsalvageable within 20 to 30 years, because the great majority of young people will actually be muslims. At that point unless they’re willing to engage in absolute genocide and can win, they surely get replaced within the next generation, especially because French women and English women will continue to have dogs and cats instead of children.

The degree of genocide required would be unimaginable even by ancient standards, nothing even remotely close seen since the Indo-Europeans murdered the original population of the continent I think. The current men of France and Britain do not have the strength nor the courage for such a feat. It’d be more likely the muslims would do them in, but that also seems extremely unlikely going by history, they will just make them pay jizya or something.

For Amerikaners it is more applicable, white Californians could flee temporarily to the Mid West and come back throwing people to Mexico at gunpoint, that would actually be similar and sounds a lot more realistic. That’s why I said without exterior interference, because considering the rest of America I think Amerikaners have plenty of opportunity and space, they are very far from ultimate defeat, very, very far. But the French and the British are really at the edge there.

Fidelis says:

Barring a Caesar, and one that successfully implements a patriarchal system at that, looks like complete implosion, followed by dark age. Better set up your informal multigenerational church and kin networks, looks like it’s going to be a long and bumpy road.

The Cominator says:

https://pala.org/news/governor-shapiro-signs-first-executive-order-announcing-92-percent-of-commonwealth-jobs-do-not-require-a-four-year-degree/

We MAY have a Stalin, now obviously he is going to install a lot of cronies and NAMs but they are probably all going be loyal to him not the Democrat establishment. The way he isn’t like Stalin is he does not have levels in gangster the way Stalin did.

This attack on credentialism is not standard Democrat practice.

Kunning Druegger says:

Yes, but it is standard Radical Democrat practice. They did this back in the 70s when whites handed the inner city to negros. It’s not Stalinization, it’s Mandelanization.

The Cominator says:

Modern Democrat party practice is to award darkies degrees they arent qualied for not to cutout the academic priesthood.

Red says:

Modern weapons make genocide a lot easier than it was for the Ayrans. But again the basic problem is reproduction. Whites are not having kids because our women are unowned.

jim says:

https://memorients.com/articles/raptus-conquest-and-abduction-in-iberia-negotiating-gender-in-la-reconquista

“… for the Christian polities, spread Latin Christianity. For instance, towns such as Guadalajara and Cuenca issued abduction protections in the mid-twelfth century to allow for the trafficking of women into their city walls. A man that entered with an abducted wife in tow was allowed to remain as long as he intended to settle and raise a family in the region. To entice new settlers to these areas, Guadalajara, Cuenca, and nearby cities allowed men to bring abducted women at their will to expand the city’s population through childbirth and coercion.”

“The control of women’s bodies, faith, and space, as Barton and Dillard suggest, was central to the restructuring of the Iberian Peninsula in the centuries after 711”

Same methods should produce the same results.

The reason it took six hundred years is that the struggle was one of biological growth.

Western Taliban says:

Biological growth and resettlement of areas was definitely an issue. And every soldier lost in a battle needs to be replaced and that takes time.

I assume you’re only using this source as a reference to read between the lines of history, because their framing is always going to be exaggerated and a lie, just look at the people who made that website: https://memorients.com/team

The main reason why it took six hundred years is not biological growth, it is because of politics and conflict of interests among the Spanish people themselves. Trying to frame the issue of the Reconquista like two unified war factions against each other is liberal/prog revisionism that often tries to say “look how powerful and enlightened Muslims were” and “how stupid and barbaric Christians were”. In this case is trying to tell us “how bad and evil were both Christians and Muslims because their women weren’t independent whores”.

Considering the history of el Cid Campeador, who was possibly the greatest hero of the Reconquista bar Don Pelayo, it becomes quite clear that a great deal of the fighting was intra-war for different reasons in both sides. The muslims also had their great deal of intra-war and conflict, to the point the Taifas happened.

The invasion was possible because intra-war between the Visigoths, otherwise the muslims would have never been able to set foot in the Península. Similarly, the Reconquista was in many cases easier because muslims were too busy killing each other.

The basics of the history are also very similar to that of the Anglo-Saxons and the founding of England, a bunch of warlord chads killing each other with a lot of different people in the mix fighting for their own interests, without enough cohesion to unite against any apparent common enemy in either side, constantly making cross-alliances and such. It wasn’t only the Spanish and the muslims, the French were also in the mix and constantly at war with Aragón, just like they were also involved in England.

When Fernando and Isabel united Castilla and Aragón, the powerful inertia of their movement not only completed the Reconquista, it also established the first empire where the sun never set.

As you often reminds us, cohesion and cooperation are very hard, very very hard. And unless the enemy is a demented evil demonspawn like the State Department or the Aztec empire who are self-destructive and want to kill everyone else to worship their demons, the sides can easily change because the lines in the sand are thin and superficial, but the benefits from cross-alliances can be very enticing and enduring.

alf says:

lol, lmao even.

Seems I have been bannned from gab:

Access denied

You do not have access to gab.com.

The site owner may have set restrictions that prevent you from accessing the site.

I have no idea why. Maybe it was because of my handle, ‘Archbishop Alfonso I’? Maybe because in my pinned post I advocated that a Christian does not necessarily have to take everything in the bible at face value? I have no clue.

Anonymous says:

The odd thing is that I can still view your posts.

jim says:

The site is under attack. Likely this has absolutely nothing to do with you.

I get the error:

“Internal Error

We encountered an error processing your request. Please try again in a few seconds. Please do NOT screenshot this page as it has your IP address listed below.”

And then I get the error “The site owner may have set restrictions that prevent you from accessing the site.”

Maybe he has, because so many attackers are hitting the site, maybe he has not, and your browser is misdiagnosing the error.

The http protocol is inherently vulnerable to this sort of thing. Everyone is facing a more hostile internet. Holy war approaches, and the internet is copping it bad and going to cop it a great deal worse. We need to replace the excessively trusting and vulnerable protocols we are currently dependent on.

alf says:

Huh. OK, hope it turns out well.

jim says:

Gab may well recover, but the long term trend is that this problem is getting worse, has been getting worse for a long time, and is going to get a lot worse than it is now.

The internet was designed to keep going, at least somewhat, even in a nuclear war.

Information Epoch warfare however …

Needs substantial redesign.

alf says:

Yep Gab is back.

Needs substantial redesign.

Inbetween having a bunch of kids, damage controlling the destruction of our past, creating a scaleable crypto, prepping for food crisis, piling weapons, shitpoasting on teh internet… I’m sure we can shove in redesigning the internet…

Well at least we won’t be bored anytime soon.

jim says:

Ipfs is a good step in the correct direction. People generally access it through http and domain name system, but you do not have to, and our enemies are reluctant to attack, because that would merely result in wholesale movement away from http and domain names.

Fidelis says:

IPFS is great for something like a book collection, but we really already had that in the form of bittorrent. IPFS is terrible at what you call metadata, actually organizing a human readable and searchable database of hash links. Going to need a persistent peer network to survive a serious https/dns attack against such a search system, at which point we have solved the decentralized social media problem, at least in substantial part.

notglowing says:

>but we really already had that in the form of bittorrent.

IPFS is similar to bittorrent in principle yes, but first off, most uses of the latter involve centralized trackers, IPFS is closest to Bittorrent with DHT and magnet links, but with the advantage of being designed around that usage.

However there are significant differences between the two protocols that give IPFS unique capabilities. Torrents are discrete collections of data, they are extremely rigid and require total replacement if even some of it changes.

IPFS natively allows for hierarchical addressing of information through merkle trees, which means you can link to different views of the same collection, or, more critically, when you update part of the data, you don’t throw away the network of peers that is sharing the unchanged part.

This changes *how IPFS is used* in practice.
It also lends itself more easily to hosting webpages, which act as indices for the collections of data, bypassing the need for centralized websites to list torrents.
And IPNS allows for stable identifiers to changing information.

IPFS doesn’t by itself solve the problem of having multiple people contribute to something together, however there are some partial solutions to that built on top of IPFS, such as OrbitDB and Textile.
I’ve used OrbitDB, it’s not terrible but it suffers from the rather slow development of IPFS itself.

What’s really missing is something akin to a paid database as a service that uses the IPFS protocol.
Forcing every peer of your app to run an IPFS-based database is an issue, because if those who submit data can do it for free, they will spam and burden other peers.

On the other hand, there are interesting solutions to decentralized spam prevention based on zero-knowledge technology such as the Rate Limiting Nullifier (https://github.com/Rate-Limiting-Nullifier/rlnjs)

notglowing says:
playing with fire says:

If male sexual impulses are natural and not to be restrained, is sex with demonesses allowable? Because they’re really hot. And after all, it’s only one degree removed from sex with normal women – and if you can hold frame on a woman, holding frame on a demoness shouldn’t be fundamentally different, just more so.

jim says:

If demons are real, rather than metaphorically real, they are not generally permitted to take physical form.

If sometimes permitted to take physical from that form will reflect their inward nature, which means a demoness would resemble Andrea Dworkin.

Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

Evil is ugly. The dark side can’t give you any hot demon chicks because that’s ableist.

A2 says:

Listen to yourself. You’re a fool and a disgrace.

Starman says:

Q: “They knew: why didn’t the unvaccinated do more to warn us?”

A: Because you NPCs were censoring us, LOL.

Adam says:

“The unvaccinated knew what we didn’t. Some of them said too little. Most said nothing at all. A lot of blood is now on their hands.”

These people are beyond saving.

jim says:

Well, I said quite a bit, and I will say it again.

The fake hysteria about what was just yet another flu of so many different flues, was obviously intended stampede us into accepting totalitarian controls, and when those totalitarian controls were then applied to force us to inject a mysterious novel substance with no credible tests for human safety and clear and compelling evidence that it was not merely ineffective, but grossly counterproductive in controlling the disease, it was obvious that those wanting to inject us had reasons that they were not telling us. Since not telling us, hostile, hateful, malicious, and destructive reasons.

It was completely obvious that they were running some kind of con, therefore whatever they hoped to achieve by injecting us was not something that we would want.

Which was immediately confirmed when the jab rollout begun, and suddenly the ambulances were screaming day and night and the emergency rooms were mysteriously and suddenly flooded and overwhelmed with young seemingly healthy heart attack victims.

We had been hearing all this propaganda about the Awesome Mighty of the Awesome and Mighty Covid Demon flooding the hospitals, while hospitals remained empty due to artificial restrictions on normal healthcare, and then, when the jab rolled out, suddenly the emergency rooms were overwhelmed, and everyone piously looked away, and anyone who failed to look away got cancelled, deplatformed, and demonetized.

simplyconnected says:

It was completely obvious that they were running some kind of con

There were definitely some hints.

The Cominator says:

Apparently that site is like the babylon bee but pretends specifically to be a feminist site.

someDude says:

That’s what I thought. Got to be Satire. Though in these times, you really can’t tell. What a world we live in.

Arakawa says:

That’s a Poe’s Law tabloid.

Starman says:

I figured it might be satire.

The thing about Poe’s Law is that the real thing and satire are indistinguishable.

I had people in IRL express the same such sentiments as that article.

Western Taliban says:

Knowing you, I imagine you actually did tell them repeatedly that the clot shot was going to kill them. How did they come to express the same such sentiments as that article? They choose to ignore the reality that you did tell them in no uncertain terms while they called you retarded anti-vaxxie?

My experience is that I told the people I love the clot shot would be bad for them and they told me they suspected as much, some expected the worst, and none had any inclination of taking it. But the people I love are all “extreme” in this sense, all my brothers are rather crimson and in general I don’t abide faggots that actually trust current year governments, people that trust current year governments are too retarded to care for.

Red says:

I personally told 10-15 people in private what the spike proteins were doing to their hearts. No one fucking listened. All they could see is it’s high status to take the clot shot so they took it.

Red says:

From Clot Adams:

https://twitter.com/ScottAdamsSays/status/1617956995449126912

No, I literally want to know how the people who were right knew it in advance. They know but won’t explain it.

simplyconnected says:

It looks to me like Clot is having a hard time accepting that he is not the genius he thinks he is (judging from his giant brain profile picture), and is lashing out.

jim says:

Hey, anyone who gets fooled, gets pissed. He trusted the government, even when it stank. Stupid. There were no end of red flags, among them all those fact checks that somehow failed to actually check the facts. Scott Adams told us to look at the fact checks. I looked at the fact checks and what I saw was not refutation but simple denial. The fact check formula was to respond to evidence and argument not with counter evidence and counter argument, nor with demonstration that the evidence was unreliable, but simply the voice of authority denying what the evidence proved. It was completely obvious at a glance that the fact checkers were just flat out lying barefaced.

If someone lies to you, what is their angle, what are they up to? Whatever they are up to, it is not going to be good for you.

The Cominator says:

Boomers seem to not be able to get it thru their thick skulls that everything is corrupt and evil.

Jehu says:

Saying that pretty much every super-Dunbar number organization in the Western world needs to be destroyed and the earth salted at its HQ is a very hard sell, even though it’s at least 90-95% true. Saying that incremental reform is futile (e.g. Church commission, trying to clean up the colleges a la DeSantis) is an even harder sell. Not because it isn’t true, because I reckon it’s at least 80-90% true, but because of what it requires that those that believe it do.

I don’t think Gen X has the stones or the inclination to burn it all down. I think that’s why DeSantis is making an honest try in Florida with the colleges. He might know that we basically have to destroy public education completely (as in no more public schools or universities or preferential treatment for any educational institutions), but he also knows he has to make a creditable attempt to reform them first rather than leading with wholesale destruction, which would be my preferred approach.

Fidelis says:

All those organizations have faced entryism and Inquisition from the unholy state church. If we had an official and not demonic state church, assign a new department head and inquisitioner, converge organization to something not demonic. No need to burn it all, though some might warrant it, and most will be unrecognizable once converged.

The Cominator says:

This is what cuckservatives always think it doesn’t work…

Pre rigged elections DC and some of the outlying Beltway suburbs voted 95% for Hillary Clinton.

Yes exterminatus is the only solution

The military can be reformed with a massive purge at the top level and trimmed down to essentials Almost all institutions that touch the state or state church closely need to be burned to ash…

jim says:

Nah, radical downsizing and a political purge is all that is needed.

Lots of Havel’s Greengrocers there who will scarcely notice that the propaganda slogans on the recroom walls are now different. They don’t really read them or listen to them even when they chant them, and will not really notice when they are expected to chant the opposite.
“Diversity is our greatest strength”
“Diversity plus proximity equals war”

Havel’s Greengrocer is used to the slogans changing. Will not notice or care that the changes are now rather more radical.

Fidelis says:

It doesn’t work if you have no unifying faith. Cuckservatives have no faith, only desire unto the recent past. No wonder they fail.

Jim often says the fix is in on all levels of politics. Is the same true of the remaining Christian groups? Can our memes take back our Father’s house? If our faith is so useless we cannot even occupy our own places and groups of worship without being forced out by demons, perhaps we ought to concede chopping our dicks off as a winning strategy.

jim says:

Fix is in on Christian groups, but we have the edge there that we do not have in politics.

The enemy pays entryists to work full time for free for the Churches, but by and large the entryists seem to be low level (Obviously Pope Francis is top level, but the protestant and Orthodox churches are not so far gone). The people actually in power may be powned by enemy memes, but they know the truth, sort of. They are just reluctant to confront demon memes.

Whenever I raise the issues of women teaching men, of female serial monogamy, of faggotry and trannyism, they are full of guilty rationalisation. They are not going to flat out tell me that all that old fashioned Christian stuff is obsolete, and furthermore, that was never the Church’s position. (With Roman Catholic priests, they will sometimes will tell you it was never the Church’s position, which is sort of true in that the Roman Catholic Church has had a very serious Lavender Mafia problem for a very long time) It is that they cannot say “groomer”, not that they are in the pocket of the groomers.

It is always “Ah, but this is not women teaching men, well, not exactly”, never “your horrid sexism, racism, and homophobia is unchristian” whereas an outright demon worshipping enemy entryist will tell you that your horrid sexism, racism, and homophobia is unchristian.

A red pilled pastor officiated at my wedding and we had a wedding ceremony two centuries out of date. If I could have a genuinely Christian wedding, things are not entirely hopeless. Things are very very bad, but they are fixable, and I fixed them for my wedding.

Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

If you play a different game, you win a different prize.

And the prize for winning at leftism is mutual suicide.

Fidelis says:

I can say groomer just fine. I also can say pederast. I don’t fulfill other requirements or I might take the job.

A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach; not given to wine, no striker, not greedy of filthy lucre; but patient, not a brawler, not covetous; one that ruleth well his own house, having his children in subjection with all gravity

https://www.bible.com/bible/1/1TI.3.2-4.KJV

Neofugue says:

> Things are very very bad, but they are fixable, and I fixed them for my wedding.

What would be your suggestions for Christians in churches occupied by enemy entryists? Let us assume that the priest is not a demon worshiper in that he hoists pride colors and BLM slogans, let us assume that the priest plays the role of “traditional” Christian but viciously attacks anything which goes beyond “acceptable” normiecon thought. Remember back to the demon worshiper who blocked you from the Orthodox Christian Gab group as an example.

jim says:

> but viciously attacks anything which goes beyond “acceptable” normiecon thought.

Evasive snow more common than vicious attack.

If he viciously attacks old type Christianity, enemy of God, Christ, Christendom, and Christians. And thus, your enemy, and will probably undermine your marriage from the pulpit. Probably worships demons – recall Pope Francis who when taxed on Vatican priests naked in bed together in a great big pile, said “consenting adults” and invoked the Gaia demon.

Conservacucks more common. If he buries the issue in a gentle snow of meaningless words, more a Havel’s Greengrocer. He does not want to disagree, because he knows well I am right, but does not want to agree, because agreeing would get him in trouble with enemy entryists – who probably do quite a lot of work for the Church, as well as work against the Church.

simplyconnected says:

Hey, anyone who gets fooled, gets pissed.

It’s a very understandable reaction. I have a lot of sympathy for those tricked who didn’t push it on others. In Clot’s specific case, I don’t follow his stuff but I believe he describes himself as expert in persuasion and great predictor. Well..

If someone lies to you […] Whatever they are up to, it is not going to be good for you.

Thankfully, there were several opportunities since early 2020 to detect one of their lies (hydroxychloroquine, overrun hospitals..). One deliberate lie is sufficient to trust nothing from that point on.

The Cominator says:

Even knowing their dishonesty and evil was not necessary to avoid the clot shot.

1) Almost everyone had what was supposedly covid.

2) Even if you didnt virus wasnt antigen stable

3) Vaccine was not tried long enough

4) The non J&J vaccines used mRNA tech… no real data indicating that is safe for humans

5) J&J didnt use mRNA but even if you trusted institutions thry poisoned baby formula to save a couple cents in unit costs.

Arakawa says:

I read an article about Dengvaxia and thought ‘hmm; this shows that advance trials of vaccines are garbage and the same thing might happen again in gigascale; perhaps I ought to wait a year or two or twenty’. Then while I was waiting a year or two or twenty Society went psychotic over pushing the thing and pissed me off completely.

There, deep intellectual mystery solved.

ArkyShrugger says:

Exactly my process, aided by Karl Denninger/Market Ticker Guy’s warnings.

A2 says:

“No, I literally want to know how the people who were right knew it in advance. They know but won’t explain it.”

During spring, things were unclear. I was concerned when seeing those odd videos of chinese collapsing in the streets, and also shortly thereafter when the great and good called on us to hug a chinaman. But that was the peak.

At the beginning of summer, Covid itself didn’t seem too dangerous so wait and see. It was obvious the authorities didn’t mind spreading Covid when they permitted the summer of anti-Trump.

The vaxx appears but does not immunize you from Covid and does not stop you from spreading Covid. So really, what’s the point?

In due time, the vaxx side effects seemed worse than the disease, so just skip it.

Well, that’s the reasoning.

Red says:

Why the hell would the FBI raid Mike Pence for classified documents? Mike Pence is a non factor in future political calculations due to his betrayal of Trump. Trump I get, Biden I get, even if that’s the dumbest thing to use to bring down their puppet, but Pence? That makes no sense.

Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

I imagine it’s the faction of the ruling clique associated with Biden’s handlers reaching for anything they can get to distract the lemmings with something else.

Red says:

The document thing with Biden is just a warning shot. The straight up open public corruption that Joe Biden has committed would be far easier to take him down with.

Red says:

IE it’s not a great distraction, wouldn’t be that surprising from team Biden.

Kunning Druegger says:

I think one issue is they can’t take Biden down for something they’ve already ruled as “holy violations of the normal,” like niggory diggory in Ukraine or “Las Resistance” shenanigans. It has to be something that puts him in the “Like Trump” category. It appears to me that Mar A Lago was just a pump primer for Car A Lago; if it had taken down Trump, fine, but they were really aiming at Biden. Might be too much tinfoil, I admit it, but the schemes they run are complex and clumsy.

I think Pence is a sacrificial offering by the shadow leadership of RNC. Biden represents the Octogenarian Faction, even if he’s been a tool of the aged radicals. That coalition is collapsing (Klain exiting is an indicator, but there’s rumor of serious infighting in the Whitehouse right now) and the idiot alliance is dissolving. The RINOs are in bed with the Octogenarians in the DNC, not the radicals, so they need Biden to stay in power just as much as the radicals need him out. Jim’s Thesis (it’s a classical observation, but fuck the academy) is that the coups get easier each time (and more destructive), so that’s what underpins my prediction of a ~November exit for Biden. Harris is a snake, but she’s also a moron, so we’ll see what she does.

Guy says:

The corruption charges that could be levied against Biden would legitimize Trump’s criticisms of him and lessen the standing of those who called these claims conspiracy theories. The document charges legitimize the similar attack on Trump and allow his detractors to say, “see… it wasn’t a politically motivated hit job. they even went after Biden for it ”

Ultimately it doesn’t matter the charge they use against Biden, that’s just for public consumption.

Red says:

The document charges legitimize the similar attack on Trump and allow his detractors to say, “see… it wasn’t a politically motivated hit job. they even went after Biden for it ”

Now you’ve got half the Dems and the same republicans who were ripping on Trump’s declassified documents defending Biden. The contrast in the cases can’t be any more stark: Trump declassified everything he took with him, Biden didn’t have the legal authority to do so. It hurt the case against Trump.

The Cominator says:

For corruption they cant isolate the damage to Biden so easily since theyre all crooks… mishandling classsified documents they can get him and Hunter alone.

Red says:

Everyone in DC keeps and probably sells top secret docs. Remember Hillary already walked from a case of it. To get rid of Biden with it they’d have to accuse him of selling information to the Chinese which he probably did.

Kunning Druegger says:

2 Things:

They aren’t very smart, so I can totally see poor planning/short horizons being a factor.

America has a painfully short memory, so I think it’s feasible that they are banking on that.

Red says:

I take it this western tank brouhaha is just cover to send full on NATO units to fight against Russia?

Fidelis says:

In this case I think the proposition that Putin should grasp the nettle applies just as well to the Atlanticists. If you’re gonna stick it in, just do it already. One piece of equipment at a time is just going to earn your enemies scrap metal.

Kunning Druegger says:

Yeah, Putin is not the only one suffering from timidity. It’s the boomer/GenX curse, and I bet it applies to Millennials as well. I guess “everybody” is afraid of history no longer ending lol.

Mister Grumpus says:

GAE also needs to plausibly deny, to itself, what it’s doing. So the BS isn’t just for us. I bet they’re also BS’ing each other, and each individually BS’ing himself, that he’s not really doing WW3 yet.

Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

It’s like boiling the frog, except doing it to themselves too.

“This step isn’t too far outside the bounds of normalcy.”
*some time later*
“This step isn’t too far outside the bounds of normalcy.”
*some time later*
“This step isn’t too far outside the bounds of normalcy.”

Et cetera et cetera. One day it’s ‘we are not at war with eastasia, this is normal’, the next day it’s ‘we have always been at war with eastasia, this is normal’.

Of course throughout history one party arming another party in a conflict is naturally understood as making them party in that conflict as well, regardless, but such is the society of the Eternal Current Year; there is no past beyond the morning post, and no future beyond the evening post. Perspective is the bug to be patched out.

They’ve gone ahead now with the sending in of NATO MBTs at any rate. On a tactical level, this probably won’t make much difference; the primary sources of vehicular casualties in the SMO are long range artillery strikes and man portable rocket strikes, and in either case there is not much significant difference between being in either a Leopard II or a Tiger II. No substantial transformation of use-cases outside of what tanks neo-khazaria is already using. But more globally it represents yet another lurch of headless chickens sleepwalking into Gehenna.

Tech Priest says:

https://unglossed.substack.com/p/lab-leak-op-confirmed

Maybe I was too quick to dismiss deliberate release?

Red says:

It became obvious that they released COVID after they also released Monkey Pox. Though with Monkey Pox they went around spraying it all over Europe to try and hide where it was coming from.

The big question how much was the Chinese government playing along or was it purely a GAE op that China decided to spread to the whole world? No information that front 3 years later.

notglowing says:

Why would they release a disease that only targets homosexuals? Was HIV intentional too? I don’t think so.

Red says:

Targeted Homos? Oh my sweet Summer Child. They targeted everyone. As it turns out only homos have fucked up enough immune systems to really catch it and spread it. They were all ready for COVID 2.0 but this time the anti-vaxers would have ugly boils on their faces. It disappeared like a wet fart once they realized they’d just performed a self goal.

notglowing says:

Given the evidence in the article, I am starting to think Fauci wasn’t actually responsible for COVID.
He may have created a cult around it, but it wouldn’t make sense for him to be involved in its release.

After all it would mean he intentionally framed himself. Because whether the lab leak happened intentionally or unintentionally, he’d be held responsible.

Given that the lab leak appears to be a shill cover story, which Fauci & Co. fought against, and that the release of covid happened earlier and independently, intentionally, in such a way as to make it look like it was a lab leak, it couldn’t have been him doing it.

The fact that US intelligence seemed to know about it in advance is the smoking gun, along with how they spread these false theories through State Department propaganda channels. I don’t see any other way of interpreting this information.

It perfectly fits with what we know from experience regarding how GAE does propaganda.
They made people fight over what was the truth, between an official lie, and an officially condemned shill counternarrative.
And it worked.

The Cominator says:

Fauci signed all the gain of function funding papers and hinted at it in advance of course he had other people involved (ie his superiors in the Jesuit order in Rome) but he was absolutely the main player

notglowing says:

The fact that he signed the gain of function funding papers doesn’t prove he released the virus or even knew about the release right after it happened.

The point is that the lab leak shill narrative is *strengthened* by the gain of function research. But if it was Fauci who released the virus, it would not make sense for the official shill narrative to blame him.

And yet that appears to be the case. If Fauci fought against a theory, which is likely false, which implicated him, which originally came from US State Department propaganda channels, there is something missing here.

The fact that the outbreak happened near the WIV in the first place is suspect. Because either it was an unintentional leak or, if someone intentionally released it there, they did it to place the blame on WIV. Which, again, implicates Fauci.

Whether or not COVID *actually* started there doesn’t matter either. Since they at least pretend it started there. Which leads any sceptic to point fingers at WIV.

Of course, the point wasn’t to get Fauci in jail. But it gave him and the powerful people around him who also worked on GoF research a reason to come up with, and support, yet another narrative (bats, etc).

All of which very successfully distracted people from the truth, that the release was intentional. This is how USG shills operate.

None of this implies Fauci wasn’t responsible for funding the development of viruses through GoF, nor does it explicate him from everything he did afterwards and all the things he clearly lied about, including the vaccine.

The Cominator says:

There was some quote from Fauci in 2017 to the effect that the current administration will face a pandemic he wasnt the only one who knew or the final boss but he was no mere gray paper pusher cog in the machine, when the evil big bosses want some powerless functionary that previously most people have never heard of to appear particularly evil theyd probably get a jew.

Red says:

Picture of BIll Gates, The Black Pope, and Fouci together in 2016:

https://twitter.com/DarnelSugarfoo/status/1618174553171333125?cxt=HHwWisDUpdjL9PQsAAAA

The Cominator says:

NIH head Collins not the Jesuit superior general…

i says:

Cult state has a good article out:
https://www.cultstate.com/2018/04/07/New-Emotion/

Apparently those people ran a test of Information Epoch Warfare that was first trialed during GamerGate.

IEW has since been refined since that experience.

Dr. Faust says:

How can I learn to click like a jewish black woman?

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