It is a new world now, new rules.
The Democrats have been committing electoral fraud for years, but now it is grand scale, out in the open, and for the highest stakes of all.
If they win, Trump and his family dies. If Trump wins, they go to jail.
If the state agencies of violence and propaganda install their puppets, Biden and Kamala in the White House, they will soon be killing each other. No Republicans will win any election anywhere, because mass fraud will now be legal, and those conducting it will be backed by the state agencies of violence, while Republican election observers will be deemed far right, beaten up and imprisoned.
Why does treason never prosper? Because if it prospers, none dare call it treason.
If Trump wins, he will win in the name of the Old Republic, and will say, and probably honestly believe, he is restoring the Old Republic, and will likely do his best to do so.
But the tide of history has him its grasp. If he wins, he will be Caesar Augustus (who also said, and likely believed, he was restoring the old republic). Seemingly normal elections will continue, and will continue for centuries as they continued after Caesar Augustus, but they will matter as much as they mattered under Caesar Augustus.
If Trump loses, he and his family are going to die like the Romanovs and Louis XIV. They will not be killed immediately, but will be arrested like the Romanovs and the French aristocracy, and when the winners start figuring out who is in charge, their continued existence will be deemed too dangerous. If they flee to somewhere outside the American Hegemony, they may be ignored, though they may be assassinated.
Notice that the French aristocracy deserted royalty en-masse to join the winners, but got executed anyway. When civil war broke out, the revolutionaries decided that the continued survival of anyone who had been connected to the old regime, even Lavoisier, was far too dangerous.
If Trump wins, he will find, as Caesar Augustus found, that what is necessary to rule in the new regime tends to conflict with what would be necessary to perform necromancy on the corpse of the dead republic, in whose name he governs.
If Trump loses, all traces of the old republic will be swiftly erased, as they were in Venezuela, as contaminated by racism and sexism.
A republic can only exist with a virtuous elite. Our elite now selects for dishonor, because they require point deer, make horse, 指鹿为马, of all applicants.
To restore the Republic for real, we will need an emperor who, like Charles the Second and King Alfred, selects for honor and virtue. It will take centuries. The battle of Waterloo was won on the playing fields of Eton, but in 1832, Eton changed.
ttps://www.politico.com/news/2020/11/10/pentagon-top-policy-official-resigns-435693
“top officials overseeing policy, intelligence and the defense secretary’s staff all had resigned by the end of the day Tuesday, replaced by political operatives who are fiercely loyal to Trump”
My white pill shines.
“Resigned”, my ass. Trump is clearing the decks for a possible civil war.
Precisely. Trump knows that for what comes next he needs to be able to have no fears of the DOD or DOJ stabbing him in the back. He’s ensuring that he has loyalists in position so that when he transitions to his second term and Leftist escalation occurs he can bring the necessary force to bear. This is not a fit of pique. This is methodical preparation. What I want to know is when this was war-gamed and with whom? How long ago did they decide on this course of action?
For one, Saturday Nighting the DoD and DoJ is surely Trump doing everything he can to head off false flags.
There will be “protests” and riots like crazy, and surely some bad guys out there shooting the “peaceful protestors” so they can bleed to death on CNN to righteous minor-key sad music. Even better with the White House in the background. (Wow is this realpolitik or have I just gone psycho?)
Actually, come to think of it, they’ll be gunning for the *genuinely* peaceful protestors in particular. Slim pretty ones, tattoo-free, with nice legs and their natural hair color. That chain-smoking coal-burning Heather Heyer fatso was just too gross to really cut the mustard. (Imagine how different things would be now if HH had been attractive. Seriously.)
Anyway, preventing false-flag shootings in all this chaos will be a Herculean task. I wouldn’t know where to start, but Trump clearly does because BLM went remarkably well in this regard. You all remember me wetting the bed over it before the big DC event, and… nothing. Fact.
Good point. That would be close to a worst case scenario. It’s going to take serious effort to prevent that sort of outcome. The MSM will make hay of that and try to win at the “moral level†of war.
And if a FF happens then they’ll clobber judges and statehouses with it, obviously.
Will they take the side of Cheeto Hitler who does *this*? Do they want to be on that *list*?
Somehow I can’t see how it would matter. Sure it would be better without an FF, but nobody believes MSM now as they stick with the ‘no fraud’ narrative. Maybe they can persuade some Fox News watching grannies but grannies don’t fight.
I assume they are at least partly following the Ukraine playbook since that’s the most recent broadly comparable color revolution. In this scenario, Republicans are Donbass. Culturally and ideologically completely separate from the other parts of the country. I know from first hand account that normies in Donbass did not for one second believe protesters were killed by ‘government snipers’ on Maidan.
The US of course has based Trump in office and not cuck Yanukovich.
The issue isn’t false flags getting anyone to fight. It is that false flags would be enormously helpful in getting normies and boomercons to bring pressure to bear on Trump to dial back the necessary measures that successfully surviving a color revolution requires. Ceausescu, for example, had all the hard power necessary to have maintained his position. But when enough of the people went the other way those that had been loyal up until that moment started doing the calculus and decided that they were going to be a lot better off personally without Ceausescu than they were if they stuck with him. If he hasn’t already, Trump needs to create a “Cortez burning his ships” sort of scenario for those that occupy important positions around him. They have to understand that cucking doesn’t end with them walking away and looking like a hero to those involved in the coup. It ends with them dead.
McConnell and most of the top ranks of the gop seem to understand this, it seems we have some lower level GOP state hacks (the Georgia secretary of state, the Arizona AG, Tokyo rove it seems) who seem to not realize this… but overall things look good now. But if legal means wont suffice Trump will cross the rubicon and win that way.
The color revolution hasn’t started yet. When it does, the Senate won’t matter, it will be the commanders of loyalist troops around him. Esper walked across Lafetyette Park then immediately cucked after. We can’t have that this time.
Esper and Milley both cucked after the Cathedral shrieked.
Trump lit his ships on fire by simply holding frame and not conceding. Now the other side is howling for blood and the cucks around him have yellow R’s on all their clothing.
The fighting comment was probably misleading, but also not my main point.
I stand corrected on the main point though because Fox now “MAGA-turfing” is of course very troubling. If they had all kept the “no-fraud” narrative, no problem at all.
Note that once Trump took office, not a single muslim terrorist attack on the US during his presidency. Implies to me that Trump’s personnel changes in the FBI and CIA were remarkably effective at rooting out conspiracy and/or shut down the human mechanisms that coordinate false flags.
The Muslim terrorist attacks were real – Muslims always engage in terrorism, have been doing so since Mohammed did so and told his followers to follow in his footsteps.
But they were facilitated by a policy of ignoring Muslim terrorists even if they got in the FBI’s faces, and finding straight white Christian male terrorists regardless of whether they existed or not.
They were also funded by MASSIVE subsidies from the Saudi elite, but Mohammed Bin Salman had the ones who were funding terrorism arrested.
Yes, the major factor reducing Mohammedan terrorism against America was Trump the dealmaker getting a deal with Mohammedan Kings, plus, of course the Kings realizing that the terrorists were dangerously holy.
https://youtu.be/wnS20_YwBF4
Meanwhile, Detroit whistleblower on Dominion fraud machines cancelled at last minute by Fox…..http://voxday.blogspot.com/2020/11/the-detroit-whistleblower.html
This election fraud has spiralled to unimagined levels….
One of the interesting tidbits in her actual interview (on Twitch) that’s gone largely unremarked upon is that she got noticed and promoted from one of the Stop the Steal protests.
You can really tell the difference between protests and “protests”. STS was no Proud Boys amateur hour bollocks, it was professional and focused. This is what effective activism looks like on the right, i.e. when it’s properly funded and organized. We probably won’t see very much of it again, because if Trump loses power it will become impossible (again), and if he takes power then it will become unnecessary.
I’d like your and everyone’s take on this please:
I’m getting paranoid and sensing a lot of “MAGA-turfing” going on, like these weird Fox News stories that are all over small potatoes and designed to make the anti-fraud Stop the Steal cause look flakey, petty and stupid.
TV and print seem to be running down the clock on small potatoes, instead of going straight after the rental vans full of fake ballots and Hennessey bottles at 4am.
Fox News is fully converged now except for maybe Hannity. Even Tucker is acting cucky.
Yes, entryism.
Fallback story: Only normal levels of fraud, not enough to change the outcome.
But there was division within the left between whether to push the absurd story no-fraud, or the implausible story, only-normal-levels-of-fraud, and, of course, the holiest are winning the argument within the left.
Yep – NYT front-page headline is “NO FRAUD”, not “limited fraud”, not that either of them would be true.
The red pill is a metaphor for many things, but at the moment it could apply to the world beyond the legacy media. You take the blue pill, you watch CNN or Fox News, read the New York Times, believe that Biden was elected because orange man bad, and go back to Black Lives Matter and Drag Queen Story Hour. You take the red pill, you watch the primary sources on YouTube and interviews with poll workers and watchers, read the blogs and Gab, know that Trump won in a landslide, and learn just how deep the rabbit hole of election fraud really goes.
There are two worlds right now, and because the split has already happened, I believe that the entryism is too late to be effective. Not that they won’t try – they always try – but Trump’s legal team is not stupid, the Republican party is not passively standing by, they all already know who has the best evidence, and I’m almost positive that some of them read this blog or maybe other smarties on Gab or chans and aren’t going to fall for the stupid stuff.
That said, not all of these petty complaints are necessarily entryists. For example this latest #MaidenGate thing. I doubt that on its own it is sufficient to swing an entire local race, let alone the presidency. However, part of the truthful narrative here involves just how staggeringly huge and one-sided the fraud really is. This election is a game of feet, not inches, but while we’re at it, why not add all the inches and see where we end up? We’ve talked before about the folly of “mercy” and of laying down arms before the fight is well and truly over. Metaphorically speaking, you want to kill every last fighter in the enemy army, and here, we should set out to kill every last island of election fraud no matter how small or petty. Because we can; because all of a sudden we have the mandate.
I want to see, at the end of this, that Trump did not narrowly win Wisconsin, or Georgia, but that he won them by spreads nobody thought possible, like 10 or 20 points, once you discount the fraud. I want everybody to see just how red this country really is, how the progressive left is actually the tiniest of fringes (previously estimated at <15%) and how many of their formerly-useful idiots have checked out or abandoned them. We may have 10 feet already, but I've got nothing against adding up all the inches to get 11 or 12 feet. Maybe it turns out that Arizona isn't so blue after all, that Nevada and Virginia are turning red, that hardly any states are really very interested in becoming Venezuela 2.0. I want to see Trump with over 300 electoral college votes, all from simply exposing the truth, making sure every legal vote is counted (and illegal/fake votes are not).
Whitepills incoming:
Georgia will audit the vote. Meaning Georgia is red, and it will show that more than 100000 votes were stolen from Trump.
This will enable the northern states’ legislatures to delay certification of the vote until they perform their own audit.
New trial in Michigan. Heavily supported by evidence:
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/trump-files-emergency-injunction-michigan-demands-recount-over-fraud-malfunctioning
And the newest information from whistleblowers/statistical analysis of votes at vox day (the last posts, all showing huge fraud):
http://voxday.blogspot.com/
Please share with us where you saw the word “audit” w/r/t Georgia, or words to the effect. All I’m seeing is “recount”, which implies running the same counterfeit tokens through the Shaniqua Department again.
I’ve read audit and recanvass via Teddy Spaghetti.
https://twitter.com/davidjoachim/status/1326572197809418241?s=21
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/breaking-georgia-secretary-state-announces-will-conduct-hand-recount-full-audit-every-single-legal-vote-video/
“Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger has announced that they will be conducting a hand recount and full audit of every single ballot that was submitted.”
The question is (not that we won’t win in the end) is if there is any way of distinguishing the fraud ballots in Georgia vs the real.
This Georgia Secretary of State has done many things that would indicate to me that he is an entryist and enemy agent. He apparently got rid of the ability to check machines with paper ballots.
Lin Wood (the lawyer for Richard Jewell, Nick Sandmann and now Kyle Rittenhouse) is saying that in Georgia that they can prove fraud but probably can’t sort out the fraud from the non fraud and that the state should select electors.
http://voxday.blogspot.com/2020/11/an-informative-distribution.html
The 95801 ballots with only Biden are fake. Delivered from a van and filled by democratic operatives inside the voting building. The signatures can be checked; given that the operatives only bothered to put a Biden vote, I doubt very much they tried their hand at imitating signatures.
https://thedonald.win/p/11Q8O2wesk/happening-calling-every-pede-to-/
Swiched ballots from Trump to Biden: 17407. Meaning Trump has 17407*2 votes.
Lost votes: 33574. All Trump’s, if they can find the ballots, that is.
All of the above easily give Trump over 100000 votes over Biden.
Of course, many votes for Trump were disposed of in garbage bins (a few were even found) or were burned, etc. No effort must be spared in the criminal investigations to find the ones responsible.
Is there any way to tie particular signatures to particular ballots once they are mixed in or even batches of signatures to a particular batch of ballots?
You know how I feel about about blackpillers but the solution is probably going to be
1) Establish widespread fraud was commited and how it was done and that the fraud was almost certainly for Biden
2) Applying Jim’s barrel of wine to barrel of sewage principle have the legislators select electors for Trump or at least decline to certify electors and kick the election to the House (where Trump wins)
The reason is I suspect that once the bad ballots are mixed in its almost impossible to sort the good from the bad.
Now in Michigan where it appears there was much switching votes by machine this may not be the case.
You should have the envelope and the ballot. If not, the ballot is illegal.
If that’s the case we’ve won big, Philadelphia threw out all their envelopes.
This is based on the low-quality NYT data that has now been falsely labeled by Edison data. It won’t stand up as evidence because it’s not raw data and NYT would have to explain how they processed the raw data (they won’t). Everything based on the methodology promoted the other day by Gateway Pundit should be ignored, he’s got an awful track record. Sorry, but it’s true; dude’s good for morale, terrible for strategy. Let the normies read him and cheer but don’t pollute our own ironclad evidence with “prole math”.
Cominator is right, they need to just throw out the whole precinct or, failing that, refuse to certify Dem electors and/or select their own.
In PA and WI we know which votes are fraudulent, it’s the ones counted after 4 am. In GA they slow-rolled it which means they were more careful, but since the state is completely Republican-controlled, doesn’t really matter, they just need to uncuck.
Then let them ask for the original data. They have the authority – and means of coercion.
Moreover, they have the ballots. A manual recount would show that the “glitchy” machine recount is quite wrong.
And those 95801 ballots with only Biden can be verified – if the operatives at the voting center cannot certify their provenance, they’re illegal.
Yes it should be possible to obtain the raw data… but even then you need some means of seperating out bad ballots from good.
Masses of Biden only ballots are might suspicious and quite possible courts may toss them… will that be enough. I think in Georgia it is enough (I don’t know why they were so stupid to fill out any Biden only ballots in Georgia as clearly they were taking their time with the steal)…
In Wisconsin and Michigan I believe there are ways of establishing which ballots are bad. Trump should win those states with an audit (and by probably 8-10% in Wisconsin they had to cheat so much, the state supposedly had 90% turnout).
In PA I don’t think there is per se but they’ve been defying court orders to preserve a chain of custody and to seperate out late from early arrivals that might even piss Roberts off enough to vote to throw out the vote for Philidelphia entirely.
There’s a big difference between the legislative choosing electors when ballots are in favor of Trump by 100000, because there may still be some fake Biden ballots, and choosing electors when ballots are in favor of Biden by 15000, because there are fake Biden ballots there.
You’re mixing up “them”s. The so-called evidence here is based on a NYT summary of the raw data. If Trump/Repubs want to make that particular case then they need to be the ones to get the raw data. Neither the precinct nor the NYT are on the hook for that analysis. NYT can claim they have no idea what happened, and precinct can claim that the NYT feed isn’t a reliable source.
I’m not worried. We will win back Georgia. Just not that way.
Not with regards to the 95801 only Biden ballots:
http://voxday.blogspot.com/2020/11/an-informative-distribution.html
Yeah, they can target the ones missing downballot for audits, probably won’t be hard to show that several hundred spot checks are fake and therefore likely that all are fake.
I’d rather see the whole precinct disqualified so the election doesn’t appear to be close (because it wasn’t close, this is frickin Georgia), but that does win back the state at least.
Anyone who talks defeatist should get the 4chan shill reply at this point, ie “you will never be a real woman”.
Or the better one,
You shall not pass!
https://gyazo.com/51e9caba89376139614ed3e1c79106ec
Watching how online lefties’ positions on the court cases has been shifting has been a bit whitepilling for me. First, the narrative was all ‘the courts will summarily dismiss all of this as sour grapes from loser Trump.’ Then I started encountering ‘the judges will, of course, graciously listen to Trump’s hack attorneys before concluding the lack of a legal leg to stand on’; then ‘Trump might have enough of a case for a few small wins here and there, but not enough to materially flip the outcome.’ Now I’m starting to see, in sometimes rather bluntly-stated terms, ‘well, we’re threatening enough violence if Biden doesn’t take the White House that judges will find for us despite the legal merits’ — I saw on Twitter (in reponse to a lefty threatening civil war) a claim that whatever judge is “going to look at that decision [on the 400k PA ballots] and say well I could do the legally correct thing, or I could keep the country together.”
Looks to me like they’re becoming less and less confident about the courts (at least outside the big media outlets, who are indeed starting to look a bit al-Sahhaf-esque).
Good map of what to look forward to:
https://twitter.com/rooshv/status/1326286671617339393/photo/1
It’s no given that the Supremes obey the US Constitution. They are only human and may certainly see the way the wind is blowing and cuck out, so it’s imperative that Trump maintain a position of strength and that Trump-supporters continue to mass demonstrate, peacefully, on his behalf.
“It’s no given that the Supremes obey the US Constitution. They are only human and may certainly see the way the wind is blowing and cuck out”
Yeah, that’s one of my remaining fears. Particularly that they might try to do a “middle ground” compromise of acknowledging the vote fraud but admitting no remedy — like when a crackhead who breaks into your house and steals your stuff might get prosecuted but you’re still not getting your stuff back, they could rule that indeed the election was stolen, that those who were caught partipating in the theft can be punished… but that it’s not possible for them to legally undo the theft, and so it must stand anyway.
Indeed it looks like which side can better signal strength will be rather important. Judging from the shrieking from the media, the news from the Pentagon is a good sign on that end.
“Yeah, that’s one of my remaining fears. Particularly that they might try to do a “middle ground†compromise of acknowledging the vote fraud but admitting no remedy — like when a crackhead who breaks into your house and steals your stuff might get prosecuted but you’re still not getting your stuff back, they could rule that indeed the election was stolen, that those who were caught partipating in the theft can be punished… but that it’s not possible for them to legally undo the theft, and so it must stand anyway.”
That would be the signal for the state legislatures to throw out the electors OR for Trump to just seize power.
That would be ample proof, indeed, the very premise for applying the insurrection act.
And if the Supreme Cort judges actually take the side of a massive criminal organization that that just attempted a coup d’etat and is infiltrated widely in the upper echelons of american society, they can be ignored indefinitely.
Trump can seize power, and the army and population will side with him.
I don’t think the Supreme Court will make this decision, though.
The Constitution is very clear on the matter; and there are 5 conservative judges in the court, not marxist infiltrators who couldn’t care less about the law.
Evan more importantly, when this case is heard, Trump should have at least Georgia and Wisconsin (in his tweets he alluded that him gaining Wisconsin is pretty much certain).
Meaning Pennsylvania will gain him the presidency. Hence, the Supreme Court will bet he will be the one with power.
https://twitter.com/joncoopertweets/status/1326586799402209281
In terms of false flags looks like some wignat glowjogger is trying to take over the proud boys or at least create a narrative (I imagine that most of the proud boys know that wignats are either feds or dupes of feds) that the proud boys are a wignat organization…
If it happens wignat false flags on a bunch of jewish schoolchildren or some other sympathetic target is sure to follow.
This would be the obvous move to make. They’re talking up the boogaloo boys again too.
Hahahaha, (((Kyle Chapman))) is standing up to Zionist oppression! Yeah, sounds legit.
BAM! Philly is burning evidence.
https://twitter.com/Retread03/status/1326653187126865920/photo/1
This is actually good news. Only makes them look more guilty, and supports the usage of force.
Yes Philly destroyed all the envelopes… the SCOTUS justices will absolutely not like this especially since they were under an injunction from Alito to preserve evidence.
This makes it likely that Philidelphia’s vote gets thrown out entirely and maybe Roberts even sides with us.
It’s quite stupid. Destroying evidence is only what guilty people do. I supposed they had no choice, one way or another they weren’t getting out of this.
Of course the MSM will ignore it.
Crazy now they are shutting down youtube, apparently themselves? Trying to squash the narrative from going out.
Destroying documents (enevelopes in this case) against a court order is a crime. Whoever did it assumes he won’t be punished for it. Maybe he is suffering from recency bias, maybe not.
Now there is an angle for prosecution of dems where there is no need to prove fraud, only dectruction of envelopes. We’ll see wether it is used to attack dems. It would be nice show of strenght.
@Cominator:
“Yes Philly destroyed all the envelopes.”
And now some statehouse people are saying they want a careful recount this time.
This is some Schroedinger’s Electors stuff.
Them calling for an audit-ish recount now, after those crooks burned up the evidence, is either A, them trying to lose (“Welp, can’t tell the fake votes from the real ones, so guess we gotta count ’em all oh well LoL.”) or B, finally a legitimate permission slip to throw it all out and survive (“OK fine, fuck them, we’re sending our guys to DC.”)
Toss out the votes from the tainted polling places.
Precisely. I guess it must be some legal or “constitutional law” thing, but I cannot understand why this is not the strategy already being pursued most aggressively. It has a predictable outcome and is clearly the most technically correct when there is suspicion (or in this case confirmation) of irrevocable taint. Yet so many seem to shy away.
Yes, the left will scream “disenfranchisement” and “coup”, they will scream bloody murder, but they always scream that, and they are already screaming that when our side hasn’t even done anything yet, and disenfranchisement is what they do every election when they nullify the actual state popular vote by manufacturing just enough fake ballots to swing it their way. Cancelling their entire vote seems like the bare minimum we should be doing.
Let them move to California and try to secede if they’re unhappy with following the rules.
Crying crying crying while threatening and terrorizing people.
There’s a great movie quote, near the end, where the aggrieved wife, after being cheated on yet again, says to the husband after he promises to go straight this time:
“I’m sorry honey. I just don’t believe you anymore.â€
Guess they decided it was better to lose the state than get busted. A few guys take the fall for destroying evidence (I hope) but parts of the machine survive.
Unless we can make the evidence-destroyers sing…
Not good. It’s not sufficient to prove that there was fraud, that was proven already. They need to prove how much fraud there was and have a way to cancel invalid votes, this way that’s impossible and they might end up proving there was something going on but still losing the state effectively.
SCOTUS will not look kindly on them defying a court order to preserve evidence. SCOTUS above all wants to preserve their authority.
Yeah, I obviously can’t be sure what SCOTUS will decide, but to me, no evidence = no election. They can’t destroy the ballots and/or chain of custody and still claim their votes were valid. Destroying them all might help evade prosecution for the more serious types of fraud, but it effectively means that no election ever occurred in that precinct. Sorry Philly, you missed the counting deadline, you get no seat at the table.
If you can count ballots, declare totals and then destroy ballots with no possibility of an audit or recount, then why bother with the ballots at all? They could simply make up totals out of thin air, dispense with the whole political machine, and end up with exactly the same outcome. I assume SCOTUS doesn’t want to set that precedent.
Why didn’t they just backdate all the envelopes instead of destroying them?
There is typically 3 pieces of verification information on the envelopes. Typically there is 2 envelopes the outside one is the normal mail envelope which gets stamped by the post office. The inner envelope has a signature and and a home address.
If they destroyed the envelopes it’s either because 1 or more of those items would have resulted in the ballot thrown out like the same hand writing was use for multiple sigs(how Patterson New Jersey Dems got caught cheating), no address or the same address over and over again due to one person filling out multiple ballots, or the PO date not being correct.
My optimistic take is that there’s a silent meta-negotiation at work here. No one says the words but everyone hears them:
“Throw your steal now. We‘ll get PA, but we’ll also be too wimpy to hunt you down for it after you lose.â€
Defectors defecting on defectors, etc.
The best weapon we have left is to trigger the other side’s shittiness, ideally to each other.
And then we round them up anyway. It’s no less than what they’d do in the same position.
I subtly and silently nod in agreement.
Every day more cucks are waking up to that chilling realization that either A, they’ll be running down evil-doers for the rest of their lives, or B, that their own kids will be run down instead.
Mercy from victors is White Supremacy.
Classic double-down, and probably a smart move for them to make honestly. Will the Supremes or the PA Legislature really have the nerve now to say “fuck you”?
“How could they do this? Won’t someone think of the neeeeeeee-groes!?”
Rules iz rayciss.
When spoliation occurs, the courts are allowed to assume whatever evidence was destroyed must have been incriminating.
In the North Carolina voter fraud case, not a single ballot was found to be fraudulently cast, and zero were invalidated. Rather, the courts declared that any level of fraud at all invalidated the entire election.
You guys know anything about the John Birch Society these days? Are they legitimate or converged?
The libertarians got converged, so naturally assumed the Birchers got converged.
But, since you asked, took a look at their web page. Freedom of association and the attempt to steal the election are mysteriously absent.
Seems like vanilla libertarianism, and vanilla libertarianism is feeding your children to Drag Queen Story hour preparatory to cutting the boys’ dicks off.
I was around when the libertarians got converged. Hostile entryists took over and are now wearing their skin. I assume that the story of the Birchers is similar.
The New American which is a JBS publication doesn’t show signs of being pozzed on the Trump coup at all. It calls it a coup.
https://shoptna.org/tna-back-issues/tna-2020-back-issues/the-new-american-3622
I stand corrected.
I was unimpressed by the jbs.com website, but the New American is not cucked.
They do have several articles about the election on the site for their publication. I also found many old articles from the last decade there arguing in support of freedom of association. https://thenewamerican.com/
I couldn’t find any info about the leadership or structure. Can’t reckon where members information goes when they sign up. As I recall, their local group put up the only organized campaign against the virus response.
Here’s some data from Georgia I found:
Trump: 2,457,856
Perdue: 2,458,638
Biden: 2,471,945
Ossoff: 2,372,030
Looks like Ossoff got 100k less votes that Biden while Trump is pretty close to Predue(senate) numbers. This indicates that around 100k votes where Biden only, no down ticket at all. That smells like fraud.
Whether Biden or Trump wins depends on the outcome of the impatient Jew vs gay neoliberal Jew in-fight which will play out in the courts and media over the next few months.
My only question is to what extent the impatient crowd facilitated the color revolution script as a false flag suicide manoeuvre against their gay neoliberal counterpart.
Shills are off to an early start this morning, I see.
You have to learn the shibboleths before you can use them properly. “Neoliberal” is a left-wing/cuckertarian slogan we don’t use at all, and if we did, it would never be paired with semites and/or the lavender mafia like that.
If you think Jews are driving this, tell us which Jews in particular are causing the most problems.
It cries out in pedantic wordplay as it calls you, “shillâ€.
@Fanged Pneumonia
Prove that you’re not a shill by answering this multiple choice RedPill on women question:
Complete the following the sentence: Women misbehave because –
[A] Capitalism makes them misbehave, by economically incentivizing reckless high time-reference behavior over long-term planning. The capitalist class benefits from one night stands and sterility, as it benefits from third world immigration of spendthrift cheap labor to replace frugal whites.
[B] The Jews make them misbehave, since the Jews own the media and the entire entertainment industry from Hollywood down to the tiniest pornography studio, and use them to direct propaganda at women, telling them to fuck blacks and lowlifes. The Jews deliberately intend for dysgenesis to occur, as part of their long-term White Genocide plan.
[C] Sorry, but this is a misleading question. Women don’t misbehave at all. All misbehavior is done by men, who are vile pigs.
[D] Lecherous men make them misbehave, since men are ultimately responsible for all female behavior (including misbehavior), and unlike women, men have self-control and moral agency. Thus it logically follows that any female misbehavior would merely reflect bad decisions taken by irresponsible and lustful men.
[E] They are feral, blindly following ancient instincts from the time we were apes in the jungle (or Original Sin, if you prefer), which instincts tell them to cruise for rape by alpha male Chads, and to resist kicking-and-screaming all attempts to restrain them from pursuing alpha male Chads. Stable monogamy has always been a conspiracy by men against women.
“Complete the following sentence: Women misbehave because”
To discuss women ‘misbehaving’ is to grant them autonomy, which is homosexual. I therefore refuse your question.
Therefore; Jim, ban me.
Done
I am always amazed at the effectiveness of the woman question.
You shills are now trying harder to pass in order to push the same old scripts.
I found another shill test in another place. Not only are shills unable to speak of the woman question, they are unable to speak of Trump’s platform and promises. (Which they supposedly support and voted for)
“Why do women misbehave?” The answer is E, blind feral animality. The will of Gnon, original sin, evolution.
A and B make the situation worse, for sure, but if you accept A and B as the definitive answer, you’ve bought into the “blank slate” theory of human nature, which is a lie, and leads to “New Soviet Man” and other bullshit theories of how the environment can mold men like clay and leads to death camps when somehow once again it turns out people can’t just be transformed to be whatever the latest left-wing thinkers think we’re supposed to be..
I haven’t posted anything here but I just want to pass the shill test in advance so if I do post. Thanks for the great analysis Jim et al, you guys are a daily read.
Funny how the shill narrative portrays whites as helpless and without agency while jews are hypercompetent and nothing happens without their leave. And the only thing white Christians can do is to “awaken racial consciousness”, which means bitch and whine loudly on the internet, which just so happens to mark one as a target for deplatforming and investigation by authorities.
That’s the reason why I stopped visiting the Daily Stormer, I had enough of this narrative. I kept trying to make this exact same argument and there were many who did see things properly, but half the userbase were subhumans. My massive hate for wignats comes from this experience, but looking back at it Jim is probably right that they are in fact shills when they use this angle, not actual users. Like the inbred Parrot or whatever that faggot from the Traditional Worker Party or whatever was called, literal fed, just like the bowlcutters.
Anglin and Weev are 100% our people, but their space in the dissident right is full of subhuman garbage like this.
Pretty sure that was not half the userbase, but half the comments, the half coming from shills.
If I did not censor the shills, more than half the comments on this blog would be shill comments.
I try to engage the shills in conversation, because they leak information to the extent that they customize their scripts for the site and the audience, but eventually I go to just deleting, then silencing their comments altogether, and then they go away.
Pretty sure not one of the supposed antisemites at the Daily Stormer, in their many rants about how whites were helplessly manipulated by evil smart Jews, mention the Jew who is most conspicuous in that manipulation, nor any of his many evil deeds, such as installing prosecutors who fail to prosecute left wing crimes.
Because they were on Soros’s payroll.
Listen carefully to what your enemy does not say. Because he is your enemy, you will hear more by listening to what he does not say than by listening to what he does say.
If wignats habitually can’t spot shills what difference does it make.
They’re irrelevant, having neither power nor influence. But as Jim intimates, listening to what the shills cannot say is important enough that it merits a closer look.
They’re not there to have a Socratic dialogue with you, they’re there to demoralize, confuse, divide, and destroy.
Wignats are proles. Peasants and burghers. They aren’t a ruling warrior or priestly class, so they don’t need to tell the difference. Look at how unique Jim is for his ability to detect shills. It is probably his most important contribution to the NRx corpus. Even more so than his insights on the Loli Question or the Woman Question. Its a problem that the greatest minds in the Christian Church had trouble answering and solving over time. Do you really expect a bunch of commoners to be able to detect that sort of thing?
Every dissident right group except for them spots them pretty easily not just Jim.
4chan is infested but they still get spotted easily and told that they will never be real women.
Every other divine right blog with any traffic has a serious shill infestation. Even 4chan is lousy for them. Jim keeps his place clean because of his expertise at preventing entryism. If 4chan can’t keep itself clean, then no one can. The Church had this problem for centuries, and was not always successful in preventing it. Don’t punch the common folk for not being able to solve a problem the intellectual elite have had consistent issues with.
4chan can’t keep them OUT because 4chan is basically uncensored and the mods are converged, but people spot them right away.
Mainstream pro Trump groups (and they have lots of proles too though generally far more successful proles than wignats tend to be) spot them right away (the worst thing you get is the occasional unironic Qtard)…
Even groups that don’t always spot them right away generally don’t fall for the hail fellow right wing extremist we need to purity spiral and do dumb shit that will hurt us…
But wignats seem to have ZERO ability to keep from having shills in control.
I think it may be the case that some proles legitimately turn into shills. Some disabled PTSD vet maybe, or just any civilian with low income and low ambition, who’s having a hard time scraping by, is already kind of angry at the world, and a “recruiter” purporting to be “white nationalist” taps them one day and tells them “hey, we know you’re a victim, come work with us and be an authentic voice for $whatever”.
4 out of 5 probably roll their eyes, say “yeah, sounds legit” and block the spam. But there’s going to be that one who’s feeling particularly hungry that day and thinks, “well, what have I got to lose?”
I believe that may be why so many shills display lower-class markers. No doubt their supervisors are Brahmin class (or maybe Dalits, with Brahmins only way up the chain), but they themselves are of the same social class as those we consider to be natural allies. That’s why class markers alone aren’t a perfect indicator. We can’t just whitelist all proles, even if 90% or 98% of them are great.
We’ve seen how people can be duped by shills, some of whom here have even owned up to it. I don’t think it’s a stretch to say that a small group are either incapable of owning up to it or actually starting their career as a shill.
The tl;dr is that I now consider there to be two types of shills, primarily differentiated by social class. Brahmin/Dalit shills are the most common species here, like Communist Revolutionary and Gedeon. But on social media and the chans, they prefer to deploy shills with Vaisya mannerisms in the hope of fitting in better. And lately they’re either running out of intellectual priestly shills to send here, or just thought they might have better luck with prole-like shills, because we’re seeing fewer CRs and more Shelbys and Lammeys.
Not seeing it. They look like the typical midwit college grad to me.
Link me too a shill in the comments who displayed “lower class markers”
Viking seemed more a genuine prole (though its not clear he was a shill he may have been sincere) than a typical cathedral shill midwit.
But what exactly could Soros get out of paying shills to shill on The Daily Stormer? To discredit the place? In whose eyes? I mean, Stormer is a reference to Der Stu:rmer, which is in itself a message that they do not want to be inside “mainstream respectability”. Who is the kind of person, group, or demographic who 1) does matter to Soros, that is, has a certain quality or property and exists in a large enough quantity 2) does not already despise a publication with a name like that 3) shills can make him despise it?
I mean, obviously, what Atavistic Morality is saying that this is precisely what happened to him, but why would Soros care?
The default assumption here is that the Soros and the Cathedral have so much money that they simply spray shills on full-auto at anything that’s even semi right wing. If you see a whole lot of shills in one place then it might be an indicator of punching above one’s weight, but not necessarily.
You may as well ask why the feds bother to infiltrate – or, these days, own and operate – the KKK. It gives them plausible deniability and ample opportunities to roll up a tard.
It’s all insecurities, all the way down.
The congenital solipsism and unregenerated narcicissm of tanzis makes them given to the most shameless lying possible about anything and everything; yet in it’s own way, also produces a distinctively recognizable regularity in them, in a way that goes beyond any contingent particulars of fork-toungedness.
The unchecked ego is a powerful force, and the desire for validation a consistent rosetta stone for sussing out true sentiment. In particular, where a shill may identify with something, they will *simply not be capable of describing that thing in a way that would really devalidate it*. This is often coupled with a concordant tendency for the entryist to speak of the ‘side’ he is ostensibly ‘on’, to speak of his ‘fellows’, in conspicuously unflattering, emasculating, devalidatory terms; to promulgate viewpoints whose conclusions rather curiously imply rather unflattering things about ‘themselves’, and rather flattering things about their ‘enemy’.
Para exemple, someone shilling for a jew like soros will simply not be capable of actually describing his bad behavior; indeed, from the way he talks, you would get the impression his whipholder is actually a nietzschian superman who has the mandate of heaven to rule over goyim.
That is the eternal tell of shills; they will say ‘hail fellow ABC, i also hate XYZ’, but can’t actually talk about the things that make them troublesome, the realities that would actually underlie such viewpoints. That is to say, they will be conspicuously incapable of actually describing XYZ in a way that makes them look uncool.
Ok China is fucking with us now. No way they actually believe this Cathedral bullshit.
https://twitter.com/unwatch/status/1326592939137650693?s=21
Of course they don’t. All of the US’ enemies are willing to use this equality crap as a weapon, and why wouldn’t they? It’s the biggest flaw in the way the government is framed, and the one that will ultimately cause it’s destruction. Like the Chinese give a shit about “systemic racism”.
On a related note, here’s a fun video of an Asian business owner telling some black guy “this is a no nigger zone”:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sq0aS-dgPUg&feature=emb_logo
Thanks for the video, good man and great comments. We indeed need many NNZs.
They seem to have problems with prog entryism in their own country:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/nov/13/chinese-retailer-faces-backlash-after-calling-large-clothing-sizes-rotten
If you know even a little bit about the Chinese, you know this is absolutely normal language for them, as is the “no nigger zone”. Some Cathedral-aligned sub-factions in Xi’s China?
I don’t know a whole lot about the Chinese. I do remember seeing ads saying bad things about niggers. Interesting take on that clothing store event, I remember seeing that but didn’t think much of it.
Idk, could just be some fat woman complaining about something, and it gained traction because certain people love to help women when they complain about shit. Maybe that’s how the Cathedral works in this era. Some stupid thing blows up on social media because some dumb pig shared it with her friends, and before you know it hordes of cucks and bitter fat women are threatening to boycott a business.
The Chinese have many faults in my experience, but white knighting is not one of them. The article mentions the state-run women’s federation was behind this which is why I found it so interesting. Some petty coffee clatch club full of harpies winning against successful entrepreneur Jack Ma, himself extremely well-connected politically?
Just think about it, would that be likely to happen in e.g. Russia? If it did then at least then we’d have Putin publically commenting on the ridiculousness of it all.
My interpretation is that China has been fucking in some ways or other with US internal politics since about 2014 or 2015 (Russia Russia Russia was projection). The height of it was of course the COVID crap. The trouble is, to infiltrate you need people over there, who they of course had, and two-way communication between the CCP and their agents in the US. I guess some American Chinese in the spy network were also feminists, and so they brought those ideas back to China.
I fully expect them to be able to deal with it; this stuff is memetically alien to them. It just serves them right to get a taste of their own medicine.
Social media I think exacerbates holiness spirals, but it does not cause them. Maybe thanks to social media the left is disappearing up its own asshole as Jim put it, i.e. becoming too crazy for normies, now instead of in 2024, which is on the whole a good thing.
Asians in general are very redpilled about women.
Islam is not totally right about women some features of it are just sort of prison homosexual, but Confucianism and Buddhism were right about women.
Not impossible, but everything important that happened so far is explainable as Western (white, jewish, and recently others) elites doing their holiness spirals. Chinfluence is possible, likely, but needs specific evidence to tell it from the rest.
Discrimination against Asian-Americans? He must be thinking of Indian IT recruiters 😀
By the way I know activism type activities are normally fake and gay but for what its worth email state senate and house leaders in the stolen states (except Nevada the only one with a Democrat legislature) and say that while you may not be a constituent you believe you speak for millions of Republicans who will never show up to vote again if the Republicans let the fraud stand, and that under no circumstances should they certify the electors for Biden.
It does sound fake and gay. If they let the fraud stand, it won’t matter if anyone shows up for voting in the future.
Activism is at present the only thing most of us can do and an email to a state senate and house leader might help the cause, but I’d use more drastic language. Perhaps say that if they let the fraud stand, voting will be pointless in the future, the dems have no reason to allow any Republican to win any election in the future, that he has a duty do god and country to act against the fraud.
If they grasp the 1st implication they will quickly move on to the second…
But leading with the second is more likely to trigger a cuck shield.
Maybe write something we can mass copy and paste.
No absolutely not, you don’t want to trigger spam filters or have them get the idea they are being spammed by a pot or by a copypasta use your own words. You don’t need to be super eloquent just send the same message in a unique way.
Yeah good point.
Señor Jim,
I read news today and look like Trump fire CISA leader. What do you think will happen?
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/nov/12/christopher-krebs-us-cybersecurity-official-election-misinformation-expects-fired
Some good news.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurkee/2020/11/12/pennsylvania-judge-rules-in-favor-of-trump-campaign-orders-state-cant-count-some-ballots/?sh=47812b786c12
However, do note that the media are trying to spin this as a non-issue.
“Though the Trump campaign did prevail in the proof of identification lawsuit, their legal challenges have more broadly been dismissed by legal experts as being largely meritless attempts to sow distrust in the election results, which experts believe have little chance of actually succeeding in court. “They all seem to have no merit whatsoever,†Joshua Douglas, an election law professor at the University of Kentucky, told the Guardian about Trump’s lawsuits Friday. “I think the goal is to sow discord and distrust and undermine the people and the integrity of the election.—
To me, the fact that there was wrongdoing means even more that a thorough and uncompromised investigation would be needed to ensure the integrity of this election and proper closure of this issue, not doing this would send the terrible message to the rest of the world that voter fraud is tolerated and encouraged.
State courts are deciciding Trump’s election cases, yet not rioting at courthouses.
Can anybody imagine why?
The left high command is holding back the rioters for now because they want to encourage RINOs and cucks to desert Trump and rioters tend to cause RINOs and cucks to find their backbone.
Trump won a case in PA, more to follow. I think a bunch of these upper midwest states used mail in voting rules without bothering to have the legislature ever approve it by law. Its best if PA gets to SCOTUS first where even Roberts might side with Trump because they defied a court order.
Yes, Roberts may be a squish on the issues, but with respect to the power and legitimacy of the court, he’s reliably selfish.
How reliable and selfish will he be if there are video of him sucking off a train of male prositutes?
My point is not that there is or isnt, but that we know of at least one blackmailer with high value clients who was suicided (Epstein) and so it is a critical mistake to rely on anything but confirmable facts
The republic has been openly attacked. Thats a fact
An attack on the republic is treason. Fact
The enemies of the republic infest the university system, government and the tech sector. Fact
They espouse marxist ideology, have employed street thugs, and their cronies in government and tech have given both approval and material support of those shock troops. Also fact
Therefore there can be only one conclusion: we are in the middle a communist takeover.
We know what communist takeovers look like, picture a field of corpses, starving hollow eyed people shuffling, and ruined cities
The President wants to preserve as much of the forms of law as he can, and good for him. But as for Roberts, of he knows whats good for him, he will rubber stamp whatever is put in front of him.
If a fence sitter wants to sit on the fence, then God bless. But they will stay on that fucking fence and keep out of our way or they will be impaled on it.
Also, fhat was not meant as a call to violence but rather as an excess of rhetoric and I don’t speak for anyone here. And please feel free to delete what i said if it isnt helpful. ::rueful expression::
Roberts is terrible, but Trump doesn’t technically need his vote anymore, and if the left wins this they will come after him as well.
Blackmail is only effective if they aren’t going to kill you anyway.
I just figured it out:
In Post-Republic America, psyops, head-counting and civil war pre-positioning IS the campaign.
It went from “election campaign†to just “campaign.â€
As go the elections, so go currency and the law. Virtual goes physical when trust no work.
2021 will be fun.
Deleted because links to a shill source.
Be more watchful for shilling.
Sorry. I’m not a shill just a midwit.
On an unrelated note, Georgia recount starting Friday, due to end Wednesday. What happens when things start showing in Trumps favour? The betting markets have all of the contested states as well as Trump election victory at about 10 to 1, indicating that if he takes won he likely takes the whole election soon after.
How will the media spin a favourable Georgia recount? Or are we expecting things to go hot before then?
The Georgia recount and supposed audit as it is is fake and gay (Trump campaign already sent a letter to this effect), the Georgia secretary of state is a secret democrat and enemy agent ala Romney. We’ll get Georgia back but not with that.
The recent victory in PA and Rudy’s declaration (I don’t trust Bannon but I do trust Rudy) that they can prove that there were hundreds of thousands of phony votes at least in PA and Michigan are more promising for now.
GA’s sec of state is also in hiding, supposedly with COVID. how convenient is that?
The one thing I find a little worrying about the current situation is that it seems like (from some remarks that Trump has made) Trump himself is under the impression that the Georgia recount is an actual true and full audit by good guys…
Now it seems like some people in his campaign know otherwise but is Trump not getting good information… I wonder why isn’t he tweeting and screaming bloody murder about how the Georgia recount by this enemy agent RINO secstate is just trying to legitimize the fraud for whatever reason, that its not a real audit that there aren’t real Republican observers overseeing it… etc etc.
This is not to blackpill… but maybe we all need to be writing the whitehouse and hope something gets through… I don’t know.
Trump intends that it become a true and full audit by the good guys.
Standard Operating Procedure for Trump. He tells lies with the intention of making them become the truth at the last minute. Musk is similar.
Sometimes this comes unstuck – in which case he always has an escape hatch, albeit I worry that his escape hatch may be flight from the American Hegemony.
Trump’s best avenue to do this is to scream bloody murder about it…
But hes doing the opposite, Lin Wood is screaming bloody murder about it but Trump isn’t.
Chances are a recount is enough to put Trump ahead in Georgia, without eliminating the fraudulent ballots. I think that’s why Trump is so chill with the Georgia recount
Consider this information:
https://thedonald.win/p/11Q8XQIWRs/-happening-ive-updated-the-switc/
https://pastebin.com/X6sW2aew
The list of ballot numbers PedeInspector used has an imprecision which translates to 2-3000 votes at most.
According to this data , if the counting machine bias is removed, the total votes should be:
Trump 2453736 (2457959+6594+4004-3530-11291)
Biden 2389131 (2472061+3530+1926-6594-81792)
This may tie into this:
http://voxday.blogspot.com/2020/11/an-informative-distribution.html
It’s possible most of those 95801 only Biden voters were not ballots added in the voting center by democrat operatives, but simply the result of an algorithm changing ballots from Trump/third party to Biden.
I should add also this:
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/11/10/rep-doug-collins-demands-georgia-secretary-of-state-announce-a-full-hand-count-of-every-ballot-cast/
From the beginning, the GOP didn’t ask to compare signatures, but to remove double voting, ineligible voters, and to count the votes manually.
As for ineligible voters:
https://twitter.com/MattBraynard/status/1326993548684759041
17877 voters, most of which are almost certainly ineligible.
I expect that, if the manual recounting doesn’t give trump Georgia, they’ll request in court the removal of these voters.
Jim – any thoughts on the lack of escalation by the left? Should this be happening, were they confident of victory? What could make them hesitant, as they seem to be, moderating their threats and boasts?
Georgia, somewhat belatedly, commits to a full audit
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/breaking-georgia-secretary-state-announces-will-conduct-hand-recount-full-audit-every-single-legal-vote-video/
Win one, win them all. The dam is breaking.
The Democrats are just going to go right ahead regardless. They are operating in a parallel self enclosed reality.
Which is likely to be only resolved when and if the military break down their doors – as they crashed into Dominion’s parent company.
Georgia and Dominion suggest that Trump is going to win this.
Recounts alone almost never change anything… and they have one Republican observer for every 10 counters…
The situation as is in Georgia stinks to high heaven, looks better everywhere else but we should not give up Georgia because Trump likely won it by at least 5-7% minimum.
This is not a standard election, for recounts not to matter.
The democrats used counting machines to steal hundreds of thousands of votes – in Georgia, too.
I trust this is not typical of american elections.
They’ve had 10 days with no one looking in Atlanta to stuff fake ballots in… the Atlanta operation seems like it was more smartly organized on the enemies part than the frantic rapid ballot stuffing and wholesale algorithms flipping done in the upper midwest…
No we really need a real audit in Georgia.
They are threatening law firms associated with the Trump campaign in DC. I saw they made 1 DC firm quit. Other than that I haven’t seen many threats. I don’t think they have the means to threaten anyone outside of the cities, but maybe they are just holding them back.
As an aside, I’ve been meditating on what could make ballots more secure. A couple things occurred to me.
1. Serialized ballots that can only be used once (like movie tickets.) Perhaps not sequential and matched to a validity table. One time use would prevent simple copying, and nobody knows which are the good serial numbers.
2. Each ballot has a proof of work problem. Perhaps a simple random addition problem that is cryptographically hashed to the serial number (calculators and assistance allowed). This would slow down ballot stuffing (and serve, unaided as a literacy test to boot, which, while good, would probably be ruled unconstitutional. That’s why assistance is allowed).
Actually, a simple “retard” proof of work would be a random row of blank and filled circles on the tear off tab. Right below it on the ballot are a row of blank circles. The voter has to fill in the circles matching the row above it. Once the tear off tab is removed nobody knows how to fill out the proof of work.
Voting no longer matters. Regardless of outcome, this was the final election.
Why? We aren’t trying to create a more perfect democracy here.
The tide of history is that it is a little late to create a more perfect democracy.
Democracy is the final stage of a republic before it all goes to hell in a handbasket.
Now if we were in a republic that was drifting towards democracy, then it would be time to worry about secure ballots. But right now we are in a republic in the final end stages of democracy. Tyranny or Kingship is around the corner. 2018 was the last democratic election, and I doubt there is going to be another.
@Jim
That article is from 3 days ago and we’ve since discovered they’re not checking signatures. The recount is fake and gay which is why Trump hitting the GA SoS on twitter.
Yes, that seems to be the sum of it.
Good news, Trump has smelt a rat:
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1327413534901350400
Yeah good news… I was worried because he was talking until now like he thought the audit was on the up and up.
Anyway try and call some Republican legislators in Georgia (can’t get through to Kemp and his contact doesn’t even list an email) I couldn’t get through to the House Speaker or Senate Majority leader but the Senate whip and House majority leader I got through to their office and told them a fake audit is no good and that millions of Republicans will never vote again (didn’t go into it too redpill I didn’t want to engage any cuck shills) if this blatant fraud is allowed to stand as there is no point.
Could the legislatures of Trump-won red states try to lead by example and pass a generically worded resolution like:
“Due to the nationwide concert about overwhelming fraud, this legislature is exercising its Constitutional authority to directly select a slate of electors.”
This would not change the electoral votes of a state that Trump already won, but if a cascade of identical resolutions like this could help motivate the legislatures of critical swing states to do the same.
Not a bad idea…
https://thenewamerican.com/stopping-the-steal-at-electoral-college/
From the New American, they definitely are not cucked.
https://twitter.com/search?q=%23OUSTDUTERTENOW&src=trend_click&vertical=trends
A ‘worldwide trend’ hashtag pushed by Twitter right now. Are they preparing for color revolution in the Philippines? No idea about the internal politics there but already have Leni Robredo, the acting vice president ready as a replacement: https://infogalactic.com/info/Leni_Robredo
Sounds like a cathedral candidate alright.
How has Duterte survived politically with her as VP in the first place? Maybe someone who knows more about the Philippines can shed light on this for me.
The Blue Empire is behaving as if they had already won against Trump, which may also explain the sudden shortage of left-wing shills. Spreading themselves thin, totally oblivious. Are they believing their own kool-aid? Very white pilling for me if that is in fact what is happening.
Looking ahead, Trump has a clear path to victory, although not obvious.
The Supreme Court will not rule on voter fraud. As reactionaries, we are not bound to society’s rules on moderation, frame and custom, but it is irrelevant in securing legitimacy. Augustus became Princeps, not King.
If the Supreme Court is to make a decision on voter fraud it needs decisive evidence, as though we know the murderer, we need the body, irrespective of the bloodied crime scene and motive. As Trump cannot have the FBI round up the Democrat ringleaders for interrogation [yet], confession is not an option. The loyalists need a complete audit, not possible within the next two months.
Therefore, Trump’s attacking voter fraud is a play to give Republicans in state government legitimacy in refusing to certify electors. If Trump can keep Biden’s electoral votes below 270, Trump can win in the Electoral College. If the Supreme Court makes a ruling during these next two months, it will be in upholding the rules of the Electoral College, not invalidating voter fraud.
Any future Supreme Court case on voter fraud would work similar to Brown v. Board, making future voter fraud illegal through procedure such as mandated Voter ID. Given the time frame, however, the Supreme Court cannot invalidate the 2020 election fraud until Trump seizes power through the Electoral College.
SCOTUS might invalidate the fraud in many of these states on the grounds
A) Many of the states changed the rules without changing the law
B) The first lawsuit likely to reach them is about Philidelphia and Pennsylvania in general where they have repeatedly and flagrantly defied Alito’s court orders… even Roberts is not going to like them defying court orders.
I am worried that these cases will be stalled until after January 20th.
Running out the clock on certification benefits us…
Without a supreme court ruling in our favor we’re on shakier ground when the shooting starts. Also, We don’t have that big of a lead in state delegations. The left is likely to use blackmail, bribery, and force to flip them.
If theses cases are stalled until after January 20th, it is because SCOTUS wants them stalled. Stalling would simply be a more diplomatic solution than ruling against Trump.
Courts can easily set extremely short deadlines and issue interim orders.
That would be a mistake by the court. Biden’s going to make the courts the President’s tool by packing the courts. If they fail to rule in Trump’s power and Trump wins the civil war then he will certainly destroy the power of the institution as payback. The only way they keep some of their present power is by siding with Trump.
I am not worried, as the likeliest options are whitepill and white supernova.
– Trump wins and spends a second term waging a limited war on Cathedral from within;
– or Trump loses, and (even if only to save his life) establishes an anti-Cathedral. He is the only one who can run a parallel information ecosystem to compete with Cathedral, has long been rumored to be interested in more limited profit-motivated versions of that, but the stakes and opportunity have grown exponentially. Ideologically it would at first be a return to 1950’s progressivism, but the logic of events and the logic of Gnon will force it to go ever further off the reservation until it can take power. At that point Trump or his progeny will be in power rather than mere Presidents.
So much normalcy bias implicit in this stuff about courts and rulings and law and all that. As Jim has elucidated, the rulings are only for legitimacy anyway. None of them will be followed, most likely. It’s just “Fuck you you can’t make us†all the way down with these people.
So they’re shut-it-down’ing the courts now. Threatening lawyers and stuff. And if they can intimidate lawyers then they can intimidate legislators, obviously.
Not blackpilling exactly. Just trying to understand where we really are here, and what sport we’re really playing.
The challenge, I suppose, is conveying the facts and the stakes to people. To the right people, in a way and venue such that a mass of them is hearing the same thing, and knows that everyone else in that mass is hearing the same thing also. Rallies obviously. The Left perceived an extinction level event latent in Trump and in the fact that we’d vote for him anyway, and jumped into action. The rituals and outfits and pageants didn’t work. So now that our side’s outfits and pageants — laws, courts, the constitution and now voting and democracy — don’t work either, can we also be motivated to jump and act?
The Bio-Leninism model says “noâ€, because we don’t need The System to survive as much as Lori Lightfoot does. But with the right framing, and perception, emotions and camera angles…
The question, then, is how to get our side to perceive the same Extinction Level Event on the horizon, and crucially, know that their friends and neighbors are also perceiving the same?
In The Time Before, courts were the magic machine Schelling Point that took a box of facts and then refined and anointed them into capitol-L Legitimacy, in front of everybody, in the form of a fancy-cursive writ with Latin and stuff on it. And what “is†legitimacy exactly? My best guess is that, here, it’s a permission slip that says Americans are now allowed to act collectively to defend their rights, property and lives from these animals.
It’s a “permission slip†for the forebrain to wear around like a badge because most are still in denial about just how they’ve been used and played, and how they’re now individually helpless. Their hindbrains know fully well already, but without the Legitimacy, they’re afraid to speak and act upon what they know. Without the Schelling Point, they don’t trust that they won’t be ignored and abandoned to the mob by other people just as afraid as they are.
Whites are “fissiparousâ€. Disloyal. So before acting en masse, need to see and know for sure who the masse is, as opposed to Chinese or Thais or whoever who will jump for their group on simple instinct, and already know that their fellows will also, without anyone having to explain anything.
So what am I rambling about? I’m feeling around, even in theory, for a way that Trump’s people can take the box of facts of hyper-super-fraud, and now sure-as-shit impending persecution, and “anoint†their own Legimacy from it themselves, assuming that the courts and “law†are now unavailable. Ideally in a month.
One thing we know is that it’s Trump or nothing. There’s a few Trumps to choose from, but there’s no other Schelling Point left than the word “Trumpâ€. The GOP is fuck all. Law is through. The Constitution is through. It’s Trump or Death. So maybe that’s it. Stop making this about the law, or the GOP, but (silently) about survival, so that we’ll Defend the Lion.
Trump has Legitimacy. His orders are our Schelling point. If he reads the riot act or whatever, his people will march and shoot.
Trump has the power to make war and peace. This implies that there is no alternative to waiting for Trumps orders.
Yes of course, and I agree. That’s as close to fed-posting as I’ll ever get. If Trump’s the last Schelling Point then no one has any choice but to treat him as such.
They’re trying to get Based Stickman Kyle Chapman to goose some Proud Boys into screwing someone’s optics and going on, and I hope they’re kicking his ass for it behind closed doors.
If the unthinkable should happen and things go bad with this optics become less important because votes don’t matter…
But going after low value targets is never justified and anyone who does is an idiot or a dupe of the feds.
St. Brevik vs. Dylan Roof. The difference is obvious.
Exactly so… I will NEVER countersignal the glorious work of St. Brevik.
Saint Brevick was hero Martyr of the reaction. Had substantial good effect. The time for such heroes is not here yet, but likely will be soon.
Pre-namefag Yarvin thought Anders Breivik was a whiny faggot so take that as you will. Then again, he’s more condemning him in the sense of not possessing proper political legitimacy (that presumably Trump’s men would have). Che Guevera and the Freikorps=Fine because forces of law and politics were on their side.
https://www.unqualified-reservations.org/2011/07/right-wing-terrorism-as-folk-activism/
The most telling thing in the article is him asking “is there a 15 year old who isn’t a communist”… which may be true among Brahmin fedgov families which is why all the Brahmins except for dissident Trumpists have to go.
I don’t think Yarvin was or will ever be qualified to call anyone a whiny faggot considering this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbpicjtBOwc
I don’t care about his priors in the movement, since that day I disavow.
Don’t lose frame on burden of proof. The people running elections are responsible for being able to prove that they followed the rules and that their ballots have chain of custody. We don’t need to “prove” anything beyond the fact that they flagrantly violated the rules, have no chain of custody, and therefore everything that comes out of their offices is inauthentic and inherently suspect.
Every court case needs 139 seconds of closing argument, in WMV video form, for posting online if and when it gets denied its day in court.
That’s where I’m at presently. This whole set of cases needs to be made in public video, because the courts may never open, and the judges and lawyers may all stay home, from here on out.
Rudy may be dense to this, but Trump certainly isn’t.
https://twitter.com/GeorgePapa19/status/1327402113920602114
“Congressman Louie Ghomert has stated that The U.S. Army has seized servers for Dominion in Germany.”
Yet another pebble in the pond. Will we see the ripples?
US Army.
The wind blows our way.
We will not see the ripples for some time.
https://twitter.com/orijonal/status/1327277595583414274
The interview with congressman Louie Ghomert.
https://twitter.com/AOECOIN/status/1327210430322733056
Also the interview – better version.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/us-raid-software-company-scytl-seize-servers-germany-intel-source-says-yes-happened/
A very positive spin – from a “source”. Grain of salt necessary.
Not so positive.
Could well be the enemy seizing the servers so that we cannot.
But likely our guys, since the enemy is inside Dominion, and these guys came into Dominion’s parent company with guns drawn.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/stunning-testimony-michigan-election-observer-shane-trejo-witnessed-drivers-bring-50-boxes-absentee-ballots-midnight-deadline-detroit-tcf-center-330am/
I know it’s the gateway pundit but I believe this one… the electronic cheating was just part of this but this definitely also happened in Milwaukee and Detroit and probably Philadelphia.
Not to black pill, but I didn’t see anything about a signed affidavit from Shane Trejo. If his story is credible he needs to sign an affidavit for the Trump campaign right away. GP is on my check but verify list.
And people wonder why Barr can’t do anything…
https://www.axios.com/election-fraud-prosecutors-bill-barr-23798fdb-85bc-4853-bc69-f274dab2fcad.html
All DOJ prosecutors are homosexual.
Obama fired every last lawyer in the DOJ. Why hasn’t Barr?
Maybe he will after this. It would be so easy. “Thank you, ladies and gentlemen, for this thoughtful resignation letter. I accept. Security will show you out.”
And then dawn raids on each one of them after the matter is settled.
Ah, well, we can dream.
I frankly just want to understand what Barr is about. Sessions I understood, he was always a plant for the Dems. Barr’s done some very good things and he’s talked the right talk. However obvious things like being honest about what the DOJ did to General Flynn, continuing the prosecution of Roger Stone, and his total failure to purge his department from top to bottom drives me up the wall. And there’s the lack of a Durham report…. I just don’t get it.
Trump cannot fire people, and Barr cannot fire people. Obama could purge with no problems. Section F is an attempt to remedy this.
Barr replaced the criminal Flynn prosecutors with honest prosecutors who fessed up what had been done to Flynn, but the judge ignored them and continues to ignore them.
No time like the present. I hope to be surprised by Barr cleaning house shortly.
I know why Trump can’t fire them but I’m not sure why Barr can’t fire them. I think he can, he just doesn’t automatically know who they are and needs them to out themselves like this.
DOJ prosecutors refuse a direct order, with the ridiculous claim that fraud doesn’t exist.
Armed forces from the USA take possession of the server used to fraud the elections.
States order Covid lockdown, in direct defiance of the president Trump:
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/oregon-democrat-governor-kate-brown-orders-new-onerous-lockdown-will-enforced-police/
Things are escalating – getting more and more visible.
Trump needs to have a kinetic option now – backed by the army, invoking the 14th amendment. He must trust that he will be followed.
By 14 december, this will be over, one way or another.
Voter fraud ammo:
https://archive.is/rqGRX
Judge overturned a federal election due to massive voter fraud in PA 16 years ago.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/us-raid-software-company-scytl-seize-servers-germany-intel-source-says-yes-happened/
Hopefully confirmation of earlier story. There’s a lot going on behind the scenes, whatever is really going on.
Already posted here yesterday and we’re seeing way too many Gateway Pundit links. Can we please stick to reliable sources? There’s a vast mountain of quality evidence without his diarrhea.
Gateway Pundit semi-retracted the story anyway. Apparently the Spanish company announced that their servers weren’t raided. The story was fishy anyway; the US military raided a private company on German soil? Even if that were legal, which seems unlikely, surely that would have made headlines in foreign media, at least.
Too much disinfo going around. Need to prevent blackpilling, but still need appropriate skepticism and shill detection.
Gateway Pundit isn’t a shill, I don’t think. He seems like a good guy, but he’s like the pup who keeps chasing cars. He’ll jump at any ridiculous story thrown his way, no matter how implausible the purported facts or how unreliable the actual source, as long as it’s got partisan appeal. Breitbart is kind of tabloidish but does a much better job of fact checking; better place to go if the blogs are slow but you still can’t unplug.
It’s all ”human intelligence”, and sifting through it even when it’s not entirely factual will tell you something, and possibly what the enemy is actually thinking.
I didn’t read this before posting a gateway pundit link a few minutes ago. Admittedly I didn’t bother fact-checking the article, but these days I’m not sure how much fact-checking one man can do by himself.
So much disinformation now it’s hard to sort we are in the fog of war.
Yuri Orlov on the fraud and imminent collapse of the USA, which he predicts will be worse than the collapse of the USSR….https://www.theburningplatform.com/2020/11/14/watch-this/#more-228137
For anyone wondering why the legal case is moving so slowly, it’s partly due to harassment and threats against the lawyers (and probably judges): https://archive.vn/AzLD4
Seems like the majority of state judiciaries have remained intransigent. This only ends with either SCOTUS or praetorians.
I know that Trump wants to exhaust all legal avenues first, but I’m not sure how effective that is anymore. Nobody is really even hearing about these local cases where the Democrat judges are all ruling against Trump, so why bother? Weekends are always slow for news, but I hope this gets some serious rocket fuel on Sunday night or Monday morning, otherwise it’s going to be pretty bad for morale. Normalfags and cuckservatives seem to forget everything after 2-3 days, and it’s getting frustrating to have to keep reminding them of the same things over and over again. They all know Biden didn’t win but they’re reverting to their default state of alternating between moping and cracking insipid jokes, while Fauci salivates over a national lockdown, says federalism is just an obstacle and people need to start “doing what they’re told”.
Anyway, maybe Politico is just straight-up lying and the firm’s reasons for withdrawing have nothing to do with threats. But if they’re telling the truth about that detail, and it seems like an admission against interest to me, then what was Team Trump thinking not providing proper security for his entire legal team? I’m virtually positive that there would have been (and still would be) dozens of volunteers in every state, no need even to pay for it.
That is not slow if there are court decisions within 10 days. If this pace is maintained there will be appeal decisions by the end of November and SCOTUS can rule in the first week of December.
Of course, there are threats against judges, attorneys and anyone who might influence the outcome. There will be more than threats. That is how civil wars start.
Difficult to provide protection for the entire legal team, if the threat is not directed against the attorneys working on the case, but rather against anyone working for that law firm. I think I read it was Jones Day. It is impossible to provide security for everyone working for such a huge firm. Even if the partners working on the case want to continue, the other partners might well force them to stop.
Anyway, even if some law firms decline these cases others will take over.
What I found somewhat surprising is that Trump did hire outside legal help. Aren’t there enough attorneys in his administration or does he not trust them?
I guess the strategy is to file a huge number of cases that attack results even on the county level and not to rely on a just one case to be decided by SCOTUS. Sure that strategy involves a huge number of attorney hours which probably explains the need to hire several law firms.
Anyway, I do not think short-term moral matters. If the matter is decided by courts, moral does not matter. If Trump escalates by invoking the 14th amendment or reading the riot act, his followers wil follow him, even after a few uneventful (bad for moral) weeks.
I know that at least one important witness has a security team to make sure she does not get disappeared.
Raw data from server seizure shows Trump with 410 electoral votes,,,https://twitter.com/Will_Wattson/status/1327575368996417538
How do you archive this?
Looks fake because of Red California…
NY would go red long before California ever would.
That is only the voting machines. Maybe they did not use voting machine fraud in NY but other means.
But we don’t know what was on the servers, or even if they were seized by our guys or the enemy. How does this guy know what was on the voting machines?
All the cities in NY are very very very corrupt politicial machines which rig votes the old fashioned way on an industrial scale and have for over a century.
But the average New Yorker and even the average city dweller in New York is MUCH more likely to be right wing than people from California (the wops at this point REALLY hate the Democrats).
If true, would have to be a leaker, probably authorized leaker…
Judicial Watch and LA County consent decree admitted more than 1 million ineligible or nonexistent “voters” voted in the 2016 election…and that’s only 1 county.
The server seizure only shows a small part of the fraud, the electronic voting machines.
Presumably Trump won every state, even California, as was obvious from the rallies and grass roots activity.
Looks like the Democrats had massive fraud prepared in advance, but it was not massive, and they had to go to blatant and incompetent last minute fraud.
Would be very interesting to find out (but of course hard to prove in the current environment). If Trump really won California, this means the big cities must be full of Havel’s Greengrocers who are just waiting until it’s safe to come out as a Trumpist.
This would not surprise me at all. In fact, I’d even suggest that even before Trump, republicans regularly were cheated out of wins and always decided not to fight it.
The scale was never close to this and Romney and McCain were absolutely not worth fighting for, in fact I’ll even say that Obama had to beat McCain because McCain was mad and like Hillary would have started a nuclear war with Russia…
Everything happens for a reason, I’ll admit. That’s why I don’t get either too optimistic or overly pessimistic.
The Liberal establishment will blink first, and try to come to a face-saving arrangement with Trump, watch.
The key is Georgia right now… he needs to stop the treason there then PA will be flipped by SCOTUS because SCOTUS wont appreciate them defying multiple court orders… then he just needs one more state of which Wisconsin will be almost certain because of the scale of the fraud by %…
If he stops this bullshit in Georgia people will start to jump… hence call Georgia pols etc…
Who is Will Wattson, what is his source, and what precisely does the data show? This looks like obvious bullshit to be, and I’d be saying that even it didn’t show Minnesota and California going to Trump.
That, plus as far as we currently know, the server seizure didn’t actually happen.
This shit makes us look desperate, not confident.
I don’t believe California would be red even if it was fraud free.
Between being 40% 3rd world tribes (and Californians don’t do a good job of redpilling 3rd worlders the way Floridians somehow do) and lots of suburban white shitlibs and government employees…
There is a reason authentic Texans think Californians are cancer.
I could absolutely believe NY would be red if it was fraud free upstaters are mostly Republicans and urban wops are increasingly downright reactionary… minorities don’t really vote at the levels the machines tell them to and many have defected to Trump.
Easy to protect one witness. Somewhat harder to protect a legal team, say 10 attorneys, 20 paralegals including spouses and children. That’s about 100 persons. Protecting them is doable, but hard. If you also have to protect all partners of the law firm, the number multiplies and protection becomes a real challenge.
Also consider that the witness has no way out, the attorneys can decide that they do not want that client and go about their usual business.
This surprises me somewhat less. Trump spent decades in the private sector dealing with shitty corrupt judges and city councils and probably made several professional friends in the legal profession, none of whom he’s ever been able to hire for the DoJ, either because of cuckservative meddling or fear of leftist reprisals (as is happening right now).
Which makes sense under the normal assumptions that the law matters, but normalcy is out the window this election and nearly every single one of those cases has been thrown out – for BS reasons, obviously, but thrown out nevertheless.
So I’m not sure what the “real” strategy is here, I hope that Trump is not suffering from his own normalcy bias. To be fair, though, a substantial number of these suits were not from Trump or his campaign, rather from putative allies and various Republican surrogates and voter advocacy groups. So, could be that the judges simply don’t fear them at all, though unclear if they fear Trump either.
Going through the courts is simply one way to attack the opponent. There are other ways that can be persued independently and I hope Trump does this and does not rely on the courts.
I can’t imagine that the outcome of lawsuits will decide the power struggle, but nor will it be irrelevant. Favorable court decisions will on the margin increase the number of people who declare for Trump when the shooting starts.
Trump wants to establish a fraud narrative before pressuring the state legislaures in states where the courts won’t help him…
The one thing hes done that is really questionable… why the fuck did he have a news conference to talk about the hoax virus yesterday. His followers know the virus is fake and gay.
Don’t really know or care what was said there, but the vaccines coming out look good for him among normies. Particularly Pfizer waiting until just after the election even though they had the results beforehand.
Most red states are not quite as skeptical as Florida. DeSantis has been really good for them. But many of his followers do care a little bit, just not very much. Mostly, they need to be periodically reminded that everything is under control, because the legacy media paranoia and lies occasionally trickles into their everyday lives.
Florida still had two months where you couldn’t go out to anything non-essential unless it was outdoors…
The only governor who distinguished (yeah its a woman) herself on the corona question was the governor of South Dakota who said fuckoff no lockdowns. Shes also been vocal apparently that the election was stolen.
Kemp in Georgia was the 2nd best governor in the country (DeSantis didn’t impress me on corona he for instance reopened the bars after way too long, then closed them again he only found his backbone really in September) but he seems to be AWOL as the Democrats steal the election there, and he apparently cucked to that obese jogger Hippopotamus Stacy Abrams on signing a law making the election easier to steal…
I really hope Trump is just setting up a trap for the left right now to have precedent for using the Insurrection Act or similar at a later point. Would not be unlike him. But something has to come out soon. And what about the rallies he announced? They would be great for morale as well.
Sidney Powell: The Female Outlier
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTTQpvtz1tg&feature=emb_title
Just got back from the million MAGA March. Completely white pilling seeing the numbers we have. We are going to win this men.
https://youtu.be/n24ggkCGZ6k
Can’t wait to hear from shills and legacy media how only a few thousand people showed up.
Stop the steal really needs to call a flood of people into Atlanta (and Trump needs to have McConnell flex muscles as well)… the local GOP leadership or at least the secretary of state seem to be traitors (disappointed with Kemp who I had thought was fairly solid when he strongly resisted the Corona bullshit)…
The legal challenges look set to succeed in the upper Midwest because they were very very blatant about their fraud and at least in PA’s case have been defying court orders but in case we don’t get all 3 we need either Georgia or Arizona and Georgia is the natural choice not to surrender because theoretically a Republican government should be the most suspecitible to maximum Republican pressure to overturn fraud.
I wonder which tack the media will try, condemning Trump for spreading covid, or claiming no one showed up?
The media will report both. They will condemn Trump for a superspreader event, and also that few people bothered to show up.
Good news. Looking at reports of antifa violence. Did you see any of that? Wonder if Trump will call in troops.
So no signs of Antifa/BLM personally while I was there. I left around 330. Seeing lots of reports of violence now though so it looks like the evil quickly emerged as darkness fell.
Saw*
Proud Boys getting involved now and from the looks of it, beating some ass.
https://twitter.com/mattmiller757/status/1327786378910904323?s=21
BLM and Antifa were always going to riot and attack innocent people, but the Proud Boys scared them off attacking the MAGA march during the day at least.
At least this way, they can arrest individual members of those terrorist orgs and looks like, thanks to Trump, they won’t be released back onto the street this time.
The problem with troops in DC is that this may cause the left to start civil war. Very different from Portland because this is their front lawn this time (and today’s America, as Jim put it, is not September’s America). I think Trump wants to explore every avenue to get an SC ruling before that.
Scaring the left into not crossing the Rubicon and then cross the Rubicon himself with legal backing is still Trump’s best bet. Second best is a disorganized and divided left crossing the Rubicon in a non-agreement-capable fashion and Trump hopefully crushing it. This always entails the risk of another Yugoslavia, needless to say, which I wouldn’t wish on my worst enemy.
Looks like division is growing anyway, Biden/Harris not holy enough: https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/nov/9/antifa-demonstrators-vandalize-democratic-office-p/
JESUS CHRIST IS OUR KING AND LORD
RALLY OUR MEN!!!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJ5s81NRdQE
I asked you, and Starman asked you, the Woman Question.
You failed to answer. Since you persistently failed to answer, I started silently deleting your numerous comments.
Now answer it or I will put you the kill file so that I no longer have see that you are still trying to post comments.
Take the shill test.
Hello, Jim. I will now quote you:
And what is “this” that you let through?
So we have established that I am capable of imagining woman-ownership.
And I go beyond imagining woman-ownership: I imagine man-ownership.
And I go beyond imagining man- and woman-ownership: I state forthrightly that most men and women are, in fact, owned.
In other words, you have gone far, but I have gone much, much further.
Will you acknowledge this fact?
Pass the test. I know you can.
Since you are so damned persistent, and I have silently deleted so many of your messages, I decided to allow this through. And then put you in the kill file for persistent refusal to take the shill test. Nothing further is going to get through under your current username or IP.
It is the nature of men to be unowned, because we are entirely descended from unowned men, because owned men fail to reproduce. So a man will reliably and predictably kill his owner if he gets half a chance.
It is the nature of women to be owned, because we are entirely descended from women who are owned by their husbands. Women who are free find themselves trapped in defect/defect equilibrium with players, and players and their bitches generally fail to reproduce, with the result that civilizations, tribes, cultures, states, peoples, and religions that emancipate their women vanish from history. Sparta died for lack of spartans, and the white race is fading away now.
Women who are unowned will screw up any team or organization of which they are part in an unconscious effort to smoke the alpha male out of hiding so that he will give them a good spanking, chain them to the bedpost, and make them give him babies and take care of his garden.
Which is why all startups that have female founders or a mixed team of male and female founders die. Big established corporations take a little longer to die, but they die soon enough if they have female leadership.
Most men are unowned, which is as it should be. Most women are unowned, hence the collapse of reproduction.
Kinda funny how dressed up equalism still sums up to equalism in the end, innit?
Simply no way the closet homo can prevent his homo soul leaking out.
Unresponsive Marxist crap.
The reason Bezos cannot get laid is not because he is a proletarian.
Wait a minute Bezos is proletarian lol maybe we should subvert Marxism this way, anyone not part of the priest/brahmin class is a prole and the brahminate are class enemies… maybe it’ll work.
The deleted comment was an attempt to pass the woman question test by force fitting it into the Marxist analysis in which sex does not matter, only one’s relationship to the means of production.
As I am fond of telling Marxists, Marxism can no longer be sold to the masses, because no one is short of bread, but everyone is short of prime virgin pussy.
“As I am fond of telling Marxists, Marxism can no longer be sold to the masses, because no one is short of bread, but everyone is short of prime virgin pussy.”
Yes, Jim. The way I tend to formulate it is that previous sexual revolutions were about creating a more and more free sexual marketplace, first for women then for gays etc. which generally resulted in people trying to make them attractive whichever way (often wrongly) they thought it will work. Because young people wanna have sex. They liked the idea of having theoretically more options to have it, although in practice they saw it mostly oligopolized by the alphas on top. So we look at photos from the 1960’s and people look awesome. They were really clearly working hard to be attractive, although for men good looks do not mean much (but then a lot of things from good looks to money are ways for men to basically *allow* themselves to have confidence which is the basis of Game).
But the current sexual revolution is in a very real way anti-sex. That is, some nonbinary fat blob or ugly tranny is not trying to sexually attractive to anyone, neither man or woman, neither straight or gay. I mean, normally gays have standards too, they want boys with washboard abs. This sexual revolution is about… identity I guess, it is about how a given person feels about himself. This sexual revolution is very much against the idea of trying to be sexually attractive. Good-looking girls are criticized by feminists, men who are masculine are criticized for being toxic. I mean Emma Watson was critized for having a “conventionally attractive” boyfriend and for herself being “conventionally attractive”.
This sexual revolution is not creating a generation of people who very much want to have sex and thus are trying to be attractive. It is creating a generation of self-absorbed people who mostly care about their identity getting validated and not even much working hard on that – not even working hard on “passing” – but mostly just demanding it.
This sounds very weird but less so if you put natural laziness into the picture. Working on being attractive is hard. If an unmasculine man or unfeminine woman can just call itself nonbinary and even get status points for it, that easily means that in the internal battle in the divided mind between laziness and sexual desire, laziness wins.
The result is that the modern campus is a terrible place to find a sex partner. There are still some good looking girls, but less and less so more and more oligopolized by top alphas and besides they had way too many dick in them. And young men are noticing it and not liking it. (Girls are not happy either, as they cannot get the alphas to commit.)
So the current version of the sexual revolution is very much an anti-sex revolution.
The point I forgot to add is that this is not an accident that this anti-sex revolution is taking place in the fattest time in history. Clearly obese men and obese women look more similar to each other than to normal men or women, hence “nonbinary”. And fat wreaks havoc on hormones, so fat men grow bitch tits and fat girls sometimes grow beards. And in working on being attractive it is getting rid of the fat is what many find the hardest, everything else is easier, so it is generally in the fat department where laziness can defeat desire. While not claiming fat entirely explains this anti-sex revolution – there certainly are thin trannies – , I think it explains a good part of it. From being a blob, it is not all that a big jump to go “nonbinary” or even tranny.
Is this you?
https://turcopolier.typepad.com/sic_semper_tyrannis/
Clearly not.
>My read on Trump’s body language when he gave the latest press conference ever in early hours of the morning of November the fourth was that he thinks it might not be all that hard to rip up the post.
>We shall see. He has until January 20 to cross the Rubicon, and would doubtless prefer the enemy to cross first.
Doubtlessly, he would like the solid veneer of legitimacy – as defined in terms of the civics class/polsci 101 version of how yesteryears society ostensibly worked – in place, before sending stormtroopers to work.
My only criticism of that tack is that our baizuos never waited on court decisions either when turning on the greenlight for stormtroopers to give a target a good canceling. Rather, the court decisions are almost always ex-post-facto reflections of the decisions that have already been made, in the ‘court of public opinion’ (ie, managerialist consensus).
The way i see it, one of the most valuable things that someone in Trump’s position right now can be doing is naming and shaming, so everyone knows who the bad guys are. “Will no one rid me of this turbulent priest?” natch.
Legitimacy tends to be the easy part, after the fact of power has been demonstrated first. Nothing succeeds like success, and most history books on the 20th century demonstrate, victory forgives many sins.
Apparently proud boys are beating up antifa in DC in retaliation for attacking some MAGA marchers, we should absolutely not countersignal violence as long as they’re against legitimate targets at this point…
Yeah I’m never talking shit on Proud boys again. Cleared the DC streets of communist scum.
https://twitter.com/blackhousenew/status/1327790515329396737?s=21
Hence the glowjogger wignat attempted takeover.
Stop using wignat. They aren’t wignats. They are shills.
To continue that thought, calling them wignats is as accurate as calling Communist Revolutionary a, “weinNRx,” or attacking cuck/establishment Republicans by calling them, “magats.” It would be an insulting term that targets an allied group, and does not match up with the actual beliefs of the target.
White nationalists are on our side. Your “wignats” are not white nationalists, don’t believe in white nationalist ideas, and are not on our side. The word is a lie, it accedes to the framing of our enemies, and it allows them to hide among our ranks to sow dissention. Stop calling shills wignats and start calling them shills. Point out what they are, and stop helping the enemy hide among us because you want to earn some cheap and easy status points for punching down at proles. Big fucking deal, you are part of a priesthood. Welcome to Jim’s Blog where every-fucking-body else is a priest, too.
Agree on your points, the Chapman shill guy however did use the specific term white nationalist, “we won’t pretend not to be white nationalists anymore”, so a glowjogger wignat sounds pretty accurate to describe him – emphasis on glowjogger.
(I assume, know nothing about the guy except his phosphorescence)
Right, of course he did. “Hail, fellow right-winger, would you.like to go blow up a (insert building here) in the name of Trump?” Just because he says he’s a white nationalist doesn’t mean that he is. Remember that these people say that they are all sorts of things.
If I called myself a progressive and called for an attack that would probably be counterproductive for the left, they wouldn’t call me a leftist infiltrator. They would call me a rightist infiltrator, because that’s what I would be.
The saying is, “a wolf in sheep’s clothing,” not, “a carnivorous sheep.” Sheep aren’t carnivorous, a wolf is not a sheep, and it is ridiculous to call a wolf a sheep just because it drapes itself in a sheepskin to sneak into the flock. The shepherd doesn’t need to kill sheep, he needs to kill a wolf. I fail to see how this is such a difficult concept that Jim and I keep having to reiterate these points over and over again.
Glowjogger wignat means glowjogger faking being wignat, not an actual wignat that sidehustles with the fed
But i’m just a foreigner from the coldest most godforsaken corner of the empire, ignore my sense of english at will
Adjective modifies noun. Noun is wignat. Implies that he actually is a wignat, or that glowjoggers qualify as wignats.
The idea being given by that phrasing is glownigger being an adjective modifying wignat. Which presumes that wignat is an accurate assessment of them. Also, the sense that they are a white nationalist first, and a spook second. These types are fake wight nationalists, and their most important identity is glowing in the dark.
They are fake wignat glowniggers, not glownigger wignats. If you saw them, you would recognize them as spies, not as white nationalists. Its why they try so hard to disguise themselves and play a thousand different roles. Once they are identified and called out, their games stop working. That means we need to stop helping them sabotage us by calling them out for what they are: shills and spies.
Chapman, otherwise known as “Based Stickman”?
Yes but also clearly a federal asset of some kind.
What’s this “glowjogger” shit, since when are we afraid to say glownigger? “Jogger” was a one-time meme that lasted a few days.
It’s a donald.win thing. It’s a milder version of 4chan with better shill control.
I can say glownigger I like saying glowjogger. Saying nigger too much is something niggers do, you get me my nigger.
I like glowjogger, calling them glowniggers is fine also.
Niggers going to act like niggers, glowjoggers are midwits -often H1Bs, who are smart for Indian, but for a white, not so smart. Glowjogger emphasizes the false flag rather than the stupidity.
Anything that induces the other side to hysterically denounce another word as racist is a good thing.
Jogger is quite good. It’s from the Ahmad Abery shooting when the media labeled him a poor innocent jogger running through the neighborhood when in reality he was a IQ criminal nigger stealing property from the neighborhood.
Trump just threw his support behind them.
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1327824600760274945?s=21
Tweet is gone. What did it say?
Looks like he deleted it maybe. It was:
“ Antifa SCUM ran for the hills today when they tried attacking the people at the Trump Rally, because those people aggressively fought back. Antifa waited until tonight, when 99% were gone, to attack innocent #MAGA People. DC Police, get going — do you job and don’t hold back!!!â€
What’s the point of supporting Trump when he allows his people to be attacked day after day? No one follows a leader who can’t protect him. Twitting at the cops to their job is bullshit because they’re not going to do their job.
Not the time for this crap…
You are correct.
I was way off, Trump’s having people arrested for attacking his supporters:
https://thedonald.win/p/11Q8lQttsw/trump-tweet-human-radical-left-g/c/
It is a pretty dramatic escalation of rhetoric. He is laying out the battlespace and the actors. “Protect your women and children from the far left menace and their media enablers,” is about as red meat as it gets up until he directly calls us to war, and he all but did that celebrating the Proud Boys kicking ass. The media tweet is letting us know that they are fair game when all of this starts, too. All in all, it looks like this might come to a head before Thanksgiving.
Not only this, by all reports Antifa got the shit kicked out of them.
it’s a dramatic escalation of rhetoric and also demonstrates what you’ve seen saying all along: the left cannot fight effectively unless protected by a legitimate authority. DC is enemy territory, yet a handful of right-wing demonstrators made short work of them, only because (as far as I can tell) police did not really explicitly favor either side.
Sure, they can conspire to shoot one or two innocents wearing MAGA hats, but when faced with a large group, they need unis to stop the group from fighting back.
It’s also evidence to me – both his Twitter feed and the protest – that more people than I expected realize how high the stakes are. The time for debate [with the left] is over, was over 100 years ago but now everyone knows it.
Must have been deleted to correct a typo, this is still up with a different ID: https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1327828007311073280
Some links with videos:
https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1327731145102901248
https://twitter.com/Julio_Rosas11/status/1327744558894026766
https://nypost.com/2020/11/14/trump-drives-by-supporters-in-dc-rallying-for-recount/
Extra, a video about the media hivemind, this ones always get me, it truly is an Orwellian Cathedral:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6pFP3dWr7LA
That dumb nigger sucker punching that guy, what a fucking faggot.
These days, while I’m working out, I’m thinking “I need to be able to slaughter my enemies”. Maybe a bit spergish but fuck I may need to kill someone someday.
I was watching a bunch of videos about our great God Emperor and found this:
Here he is in 2015: https://youtu.be/305-erOr3jk?t=1167
Might as well have been a comment here… back then I didn’t even realize, but the funny thing is he has been saying this stuff since the 80s.
Great video.
Trump has been preparing for a very long time. Back in 2015 and 2016 I thought he was praising the military because he wanted to expand it. But that was not it. I think he foresaw the attempted color revolution against him.
Until about 2000 he was mostly criticizing from the economic angle, but then he figured out the rot is everywhere, not just in trade policy.
This is Trump in a nutshell. The swamp, the Brahmins, whatever we call them, they only accept ideologues. Success is only measured as far as it was achieved in Brahmin institutions.
I witnessed this personally as I come from a prole background (smart proles who through saving and investing achieved a comfortable middle-class life back when that was possible, but still proles) and I was the first in my family to receive a Brahmin ‘education’. I perplexed my teachers with questions just like these: ‘How do we know the nukes still work?’ which seemed to be very obvious and important at the time (as they did to the other two proles in my class), but the teachers and the other students steeped in their ideology could not even comprehend why someone would ask that and acted all offended. I never received good grades in these classes. It’s like I did not have the ‘right’ to ask that, even as they ostensibly celebrated ‘question everything’.
Trump is the one who dared to question what must not be questioned, loudly and publicly. That is why the pathetic priestly fags hate him.
To any shill or leftist reading this: Are you really ready to overthrow Trump just because he said the fucking truth and acted on it? The truth you did not want to hear and reflexively called a lie without comprehending it? Or will you accept there is such a thing as reality, nature, Gnon, and that it will reward those who live in accordance with it much more and much more lastingly than every kind of temporary social status ever could?
****as I come from a prole background (smart proles who through saving and investing achieved a comfortable middle-class life back when that was possible, but still proles) and I was the first in my family to receive a Brahmin ‘education’.****
Same here – I have noticed over years of reading the dissident Right that many of its adherents and leaders have this same background. We “graduate” into polite society and find we don’t share its views.
I myself got immersed in the dissident right during grad school when I noticed that my peers were “nice” enough but they were weird to me; I had no common framework with them since they came mostly from UMC striver backgrounds.
I am also noticing this while reading (Western) dissident right-wing blogs. This is essentially Progressivism 0.2-beta1. The idea that “proles” can somehow “improve” themselves by doing something. Thus the Chinese-style Communists’ big emphasis on “education.” All it does is teach proles the currently fashionable shibboleths, while the Beautiful Ones see the upcoming Eternal September of the unwashed masses and change their shibboleths accordingly.
What’s next? Teaching cows to play flutes? /s
The fact that we can understand what’s going on eliminates the possibility of us being proles. The same applies to your (our?) parents. That they were trapped in an upside-down society that forced them to be workmen is not an indictment of them, but rather an indictment of society.
“Brahmin education” means education that is intended for Brahmins, requires a higher minimum level of competence to grok, not something you can feed a Shudra and make him a magical “Brahmin.”
A Brahmin may shovel shit for a living (it happens), but still remains a Brahmin. There is no such thing as a “smart prole” though.
In a just society, a child of Shudras who shows Brahminical aptitude will be taken from his anti-intellectual environment and raised in an ashram as a Brahmin. But after successful completion of his studies, crucially, he is no longer a Shudra, but a Brahmin, and must follow Brahmin-dharma from then on. Genetically speaking, there is a very small chance of this happening, but it does happen, and we make arrangements accordingly.
There is a path for “proles” (really Vaisyas with middling intellect and few financial assets), I’ve seen it in action, but it is not the path of education, it’s the path of entrepreneurship.
Start by getting good at one simple thing. Make the right friends and connections and then start a company doing that thing. Scale either horizontally (make more connections, do new things) or vertically (franchise).
I consider this a distinctly “prole” path because it actually works best for predictable kinds of work, especially the skilled trades – construction, carpentry, metalwork, that sort of thing. If you do “knowledge work” then it’s much more complicated to grow this way because you can’t really start a business doing the same thing – sure, you can “design circuits” or “write code” but the main ingredient for success is coming up with and executing on a product idea that people want. You have to go straight to design, rather than starting with conventional labor and easing into design over time.
This is not to say one is harder than the other, better than the other, etc., only that there is a path to independence for blue-collar workers, and while it shares many similarities with the white-collar path, there are many subtle and important differences.
IMO the education path is sort of fake, even for Brahmins. The Old Testament very strongly emphasized self-study and independent thinking. You weren’t supposed to get your ideas from a central authority (except the literal word of God), you were supposed to devote your spare time to personal spiritual endeavors and quiet contemplation.
@Not Tom
> Regarding upward mobility
If you define “proles” as Vaisyas you’re absolutely correct, in a tautological sense. Vaisyas are born businessmen, and span the range from humble independent traders/tradesmen to mega corporates. So yes, vaisya path is best for vaisyas.
It is apparent to me that there is much confusion and misunderstanding of terms in these circles. Things were certainly not helped by the Jew Yarvin incorrectly adapting Hindu caste monikers to
barbaricegalitarian (;-)) societies.We need a refined rectification of names. I’ll have to re-read Moldbug to do it justice.
“Knowledge work” is pretty directly a contradiction in terms, as unlike real work, knowledge needs little to no effort to be spent in replicating it. As such, it is a calling for Brahmins, not Vaisyas. The concept of copyright was developed by priests to help fellow priests who devoted their life to seeking knowledge instead of seeking money. As the King is the patron of all priests and responsible for their welfare, he saw it just and awarded a limited licence.
However, this has been corrupted beyond recognition or sanity in America. Specifically, Vaisayas haven’t the first idea about “knowledge work,” and making tech priests subservient to Vaisyas leads to the “Elite crew, retard management” phenomenon. Think about it. Every tech-priest-frequented site from /. to Hacker News is replete with anecdotes along the lines of “ultra-competent engineers” and “dumb fuck management.” It’s Brahmin vs Vaisya.
The only sane view of tech priesthood is provided … by Warhammer 40K. The actual tech priests tend to be the Free Software guys, and following the “Hacker Ethic” is akin to Omnissiah-worship. Other tech priests sell their souls to
MicrosoftChaos, but everybody, even Steve Ballmer, recognises that the Free Software tech priests are holier. This is why Stallman, of all people, was the target of a ridiculous, albeit partially successful, attack during #MeToo.Agree completely w.r.t. “education.” That’s why I placed it in quotes. No idea about what the Old Testament practitioners do — I need to ask a practicing Jew about it, but second hand sources say that memorising Talmudic rituals is actually a much greater part of OT Jewry than “personal spiritual endeavours,” which sound suspiciously leftist/reform Judaic to me, but I repeat myself. My point was that memorising Sanskrit shlokas, while vital for a Brahmin, provides zero value to a Vaisya, and Prog insistence on a “universal” education is retarded. In these, corrected, terms, “learn to code” for ex-miners (vaisya/shudra) is exposed for the farce it is; and also why “learn to code” stings ex-journos (low-status brahmins) so hard!
Moldbug shifted his caste transplant from, iirc, OV v BDH (optimate vaisya v brahmin dalit helot), mixing and matching the indian terms with roman and spartan, to basically considering only brahmin and vaisya relevant for the conflict at hand. In his current writings he says operators vs vandals or something.
Over here, the usual model is the Dumezile tripartite caste system of worker, warrior, priest, often named vaisya, khsatriya, brahmin (i am certain my understanding of indian caste system is way too superficial to argue whether these translations are anywhere close to fitting, i mean i vaguely remember something about there being some ancient partition that is only semi relevant to younger castes but thats about it. It sounds cool though. Man. Kshatriya. Fuck yeah.)
I think there is something to be said that for an actual caste to exist there needs to exist a discrete status feedback system corresponding to it. Among priests being a lowly research assistant is pretty cool, and while priests are higher status than workers, the worker will fold his forehead deeply and walk away in confusion as to why some basic broke bitch whipping boy is supposed to be somehow high status, while the priest will get nausea at the mere thought of running a small town business and having 4 big dogs, which the worker thinks is kick ass.
And such feedback systems can probably be divided in a great number of ways, but the crude, first level tripartite division recurs across most civilizations all over the place.
Priestly coders seem like a very American phenomenon to me. I was always confused why they took up so many fads in a very religious manner. Like extremely decoupled OOP to the point of making it confusing, or TDD. Or languages like F#. And hating C++.
German and Russian programmers are more pragmatic, like mechanical engineers. ‘Good enough’ kind of thinking. Looks more Vaisya to me. Vaisyas coding in America doesn’t work because of the culture clash.
‘Religion’ does seem to be needed to make tech startups work, which is probably why Americans are much more successful in that area.
True. They really shit the bed with that one. Dumb ‘proles’ stay dumb, smart ‘proles’ get the tools to question the elite.
My terminology might well be inaccurate. I use Brahmin in the Moldbug sense, because that ‘caste’ also exists in most European countries. Not so with American “Vaysyas” which is why I use the word ‘prole’. Perhaps ‘workman’ is more accurate. I certainly don’t mean to disrespect my own family.
Not all understand what’s going on. My workman father (who built up his net worth in a very capitalist manner) for example still clings to his social democratic ideology even as the left is moving fast to take away all his assets. Each time I see him I try to tell him, “by the rich they mean you”, to no avail. I can ask my father if the nukes still work and he won’t be offended, will reply “probably not”. But he is when I tell him that his favorite party wants to tax away everything he owns and built up for himself and for us and give it to muds. Does not compute for him. But I am pretty sure if we had a right-wing Caesar Augustus here he would change his tune immediately.
It could be that my whole family or at least most of it is genetically elite. Or not. Very hard to say. As my user name indicates, my family is mixed from different genetic origins (most non-Hajnal) who mostly are descendants of various displaced peoples including Sephardic jews.
Maybe thanks to the last one I got very good at the shibboleths and can pass as a leftist when I need to, tough I allow myself some heresies when the stakes aren’t high.
> I can ask my father if the nukes still work …
Bonjour aux lui et vous ! Force de frappe ?
> It could be that my whole family or at least most of it is genetically elite. Or not. Very hard to say.
By their fruits ye shall know them. The mode in which the Hindu caste system fails is that everyone fixates on the trappings of caste while ignoring the useful characteristics that the system was made to preserve and enhance in the first place. Like breeding racehorses for the sheen of their coats rather than speed. By your description of your father, he lived as a vaisya, but has strong brahminical tendencies like reading literature too. May not be “1%” level elite, but far above the “average” prole/shudra.
As for his “cling(ing) to his social democratic ideology,” it is basic loyalty. He is loyal to the system that enabled him to reach where he is today, and will not tolerate affront to it. Such an individual is hopelessly outmatched in a defect-defect environment, but will never defect himself. My country is full of such people who will die before admitting to themselves that our current system is evil. There is no hope for such people until and unless we have a Caesar Augustus in power, as you have correctly surmised.
As “Honest Indian” reminds us[1],
> Sephardim
Are not exceptionally smart. They are the guys selling garments outside the Grand Mosque in Constantinopole. Don’t think Goldman Sachs, think local pawn-shop. The whole “Jewish super IQ” myth largely rests on Ashkenazim who have heavy Aryan admixture. Arab Jews are the dumbest, though still smarter than Arab, well, Arabs.
[1]: https://dharmicreality.wordpress.com/2020/11/12/the-problem-with-mere-ethical-leadership/
That is it. A very good trait to have in a sane cooperate-cooperate system, suicidal right now. On the other hand there is nothing much he can do right now anyway. Who is he supposed to vote for except the limp-wristed populists (they all congratulated Biden like pussies)? This is also why in most European countries a Caesar Augustus won’t be elected I don’t think. He will either take hold of the uniparty like Stalin did with the CPSU or it will be a military/cop coup. Maybe after the coup is done, people can vote for him, but not before.
Needless to say I don’t want anything bad to happen to my family or many of the “ethical people” Honest Indian describes. They are good people. Just may end up in the wrong place at the wrong time.
Any good links on Sephardim (from Spain) intelligence/traits? I haven’t found much of high quality. Often every non-Ashkenazi is lumped in with Sephardim.
https://isteve.blogspot.com/2005/06/ashkenazi-vs-sephardic-intelligence.html
@suones thanks for referencing my comments. It takes a lot to understand why Vibheeshana is superior in Dharma to Kumbhakarna. Both knew Dharma, but Kumbhakarna chose loyalty to his brother and clan. In modern ethics Vibheeshana is always the traitor. That is the problem. There are no dharmic dilemmas only ethical ones because ethics is forever confused.
Pro prole signalling in the United States for anti-progressives is sort of politically inevitable right now. Its not that the proles should be the elite but the proles have universally turned on the progs with fury and hatred and unfortunately the most bigoted and fanatical followers of the cathedral tend to be middle class midwits, these are the people who mindlessly believe CNN, Colbert and Fauci and that orange man is bad because hes bad.
This produces a certain affection for the proles and a contempt and disgust for (much of) whats left of the middle class.
Getting prole support is a coup-complete problem. Trump is the last non-Cathedral leader to get it.
Trusting the proles to “rise up” in a low-status revolution is ludicrous. It was even mocked by Orwell. “If there is hope it lies in the proles.” Didn’t work for the Tsar, won’t work for us. Moldbug understands this. Proles respond to visible displays of power and influence. This is how GOP swamp creatures keep winning Senate seats, and Democratic swamp creatures kept winning through “workers'” support even as they dismantled all industry and shipped it to China. Even today many workers support the Democratic de-industrialisation of America.
Trump used his personal political capital, accumulated over a lifetime, to influence proles, and succeeded beyond all expectations. But that is at an end now.
Might as well expect the horses to rebel next.
You want proles? Convert, or replace, the local elite that channel them.
>I perplexed my teachers with questions just like these: ‘How do we know the nukes still work?’ which seemed to be very obvious and important at the time (as they did to the other two proles in my class), but the teachers and the other students steeped in their ideology could not even comprehend why someone would ask that and acted all offended.
Ahhahhahaha. I was 16, in Eastern Europe, in 1994, this was a fairly good time and place for free speech and independent thinking as the old Commie narrative was dead and the new one not yet firmly in place. So for example our history teachers stopped vilifying anti-communists and one could have something like a balanced discussion on say the Spanish Civil War.
So we were taught evolution and genetics and the biology teacher emphasized that have the same genetics as people at the beginning of history like 5K years ago had because natural selection is slow. So I raised my hand and started asking questions like “Sure, but there was a fairly radical and fast unnatural selection in history? What happened to the gene pool of North Africa when Carthago was offed? Pol Pot killed all people wearing eyeglasses in Cambodia, if myopia has any genetic component, we would see todays Cambodias having much lower rates of myopia? So what about fast unnatural, historical selection?” I swear there was no racis’ intention in me back then – race wasn’t really an issue around here – and I did not understand why does my teacher repeatedly shut this line of inquiry down and why she looked very nervous when doing so.
As for my background people IRL frequently say I sound like a typical first generation intellectual, I tend to reply well one and half, as my parents were well-read in literature and poetry but nothing on the essay side, no interest in philosophy or whatever, and not much schooled and not hanging out in intellectual circles. They were just the kind of proles who tought reading Balzac makes you a better person.
“…and I did not understand why does my teacher repeatedly shut this line of inquiry down and why she looked very nervous when doing so.”
Because Eastern Europeans still had living memories of seven-kill-stele events. Older Americans like my dad have more of an “it can’t happen here” attitude.
This looks to me like it’s very common in Eastern Europe. One socialist policy that was not a total failure. We need to unravel the class and caste muddle we are in and this helps a lot.
I’ve noticed that President Trump is still campaigning. But now, low information voters are no longer in the decision loop. Now, “The Electorate†are the GOP legislatures in the swing states (and their pro-Trump constituents), GOP justices, and the Prætorians.
Biden’s team isn’t campaigning because they think they’ve “won,†even though 270+ electors have not been seated for Biden. So no effort from Biden’s team to reign in Antifa and BLM last night despite promising swing state GOP legislatures and GOP justices that the Antifa crap would stop after Biden “winning.â€
Let’s hope he’s counting heads for a coup. Reading the right wing memesphere the past few days, it seems to me like we’re all psychically ready for the armed conflict to begin. Both sides have accepted its inevitability. All peace overtures have stopped. Enemy lists are being drafted. It’s as if we’ve heated a glass of water past its boiling point and we’re now just waiting for that single bubble to upset the fragile equilibrium and begin the boil. A phase change is imminent. And honestly, I personally can’t wait. We’ve been building for a decade towards this moment. It’s go time.
Scott Adams said violence was reasonable this morning. Looking like the victim is not.
I haven’t followed that guy in years. I don’t love him.
But he usually has very mild views, what is he saying right now? If he’s very upset and thinks violence is justified, then that’s a good indication of what more normal people might be thinking.
Biden’s campaign was and continues to be the media and woke tech. It has escalated since Nov 3 and is currently at full saturation, which means it will keep drumming 24/7 until they feel the narrative has reached whatever level of acceptance it can reach, and then shut down all dissident channels.
I’m reminded lately of Boris Yeltsin after the coup to overthrow him and Gorbachev went into motion. These people went as far as to carry out a coup, but were too feckless and stupid to ruthlessly deal with Gorbachev and Yeltsin. I knew it was over for them when I saw Yeltsin standing on that tank making a speech. I am thinking that the Biden/Harris team is similar in their abilities. They just won’t go too far without choking, and President Trump knows it. He would already have conceded otherwise if they were too strong and resolute.
Had I been against him, this would have already been over and done with, but they don’t select leaders very well, being what and who they are.
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1327979630477922304?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
He only won in the eyes of the FAKE NEWS MEDIA. I concede NOTHING! We have a long way to go. This was a RIGGED ELECTION!
-POTUS
this is a man who will win or go down fighting.
His latest tweets are all quite good, but my favorite one is gonna have to be this:
Send the message loud and clear, you RINOs are done, consider yourselves lucky if you’re not hanging from posts along antifa after all is said and done you scum.
Trump has been unusually quiet outside of Twitter, and seems personally detached from the legal and PR process.
He could of course be furiously marshalling a palace anti-coup behind the scenes (e.g., preparing to fire Barr or Haspel and do total declassification, issue radical executive orders and so forth), or waiting for some specific legal event or enemy provocation.
But Trump likes to set up his battles as games of arbitrage. Get what he wants now, or get something better if that fails. If Trump sees his alternative to winning as being head of an anti-Cathedral wrecking Biden’s presidency and the swamp while being de facto leader of Red America and hatching plans for a Trump family takeover in 2024, he might well not care too much what happens about the Presidency per se as long as it escalates the conflict.
He’s likly to end up dead then. GOP will lose the Senate for sure if he throws the towel in.
Killing Trump, even using a “crazed gunman” or false flag, would be instant suicide for the left, including rapid physical annihilation of much of its leadership. Anything openly third-worldish like house-arresting him on obvious fabrications is a long way toward the suicide option. Things have to escalate considerably to get there and escalations empower Trump.
There is no possibility of a cover story for any such action, it would be the clearest signal imaginable to armed Red America that there is no hope but immediate total war.
Dead as in they’ll arrest him and his family and most of the GOP leadership, and then execute him when the fighting starts. Secondly, who would lead Red America? If there’s one thing Jim’s hammered into us and my own reading reflects you need an elite leader to win a war. We’ll end up like the Whites in Russia.
We had Admiral Kolchak in Russia as an elite leader;
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Kolchak
A scene from a Russian movie where he accepts the role of de-facto Tsar, as ”Supreme Commander of Russia”;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJUgnG18SQA
Betrayed by his French allies and the Czech Legion.
Not going to debate Russian history with a Slav, but my reading was that Admiral Kolchak did not have the legitimacy of a true Tsar, with Nicholas II still alive during the early Civil War. After His death, it may already have been too late for Russia. The crucial point was before the abdication, not the time of death.
Moreover, while the Reds were essentially backed by Prussian diplomacy, and the Menshevik “liberals” by British Fabians, both groups essentially served as “war-by-other-means” proxies to weaken (then Imperial) Russia, Prussia and Britain’s old rival. They must have celebrated (quietly) when Nicholas II got his deserts.
The ultimate defeat of Prussia would have left the Reds in a very vulnerable position if the Tsar had lived (and not abdicated in the first place), as they would bear the tag of foreign subversives (which they were, to a large extent). Kolchak’s “agreement” with the French and their Czech proxies would have seemed a good idea to him at the time, but it proved a godsend for the Reds to paint the Whites as foreign tools, while they themselves began singing paeans to Mother Russia. Of course, the French were wary of Russia becoming too powerful, under the Reds this time, and supported the Whites only as much as they kept the Reds in check. Once it became clear that the Reds were going to stay (and also doubtless under the influence of multitudinous Reds/Jewry in France), they had no more use for Kolchak.
I repeat: any attempt to rely on foreigners to “help” against a domestic foe, howsoever evil, is an extremely bad idea, whether the effort succeeds or not.
Imperial China met its end through much the same means. The Son of Heaven was convinced by
traitors“Republicans” to abdicate (in his defence he was only six years old 🙂 who only served as temporary caretakers before the Reds rolled them over. The Reds were sponsored by the Soviet Union, of course, but no one remembers that the “Republicucks” were essentially British, and later American, patsies from the very beginning, with their intention being first to weaken China, and then act as containment against an ascendant Japan. Chinese Reds are Chinese, unlike cordycepted “Chinese” republicans.It’s geopolitics all the way down.
As opposed to burning down cities in “peaceful protests†while simultaneously insisting a relgious gathering of more than 5 people is a threat to the universe?
As opposed to openly emptyong out the prisons of murderers and rapists while sending honest young men to five years in prison for defending their lives from those rapists and murderers?
As opposed to endlessly lying about a completely fraudulent conspiracy theory involving russia russia russia, and then branding anyone as insane who notices the actual, real, no kidding and right in your face conspiracy to steal an election?
Omar. Find your fucking balls and do it fast. You are in the middle of a communist takeover. This is real. It either ends with a bunch of bastards lined up against a wall after a long and brutal fight or piles of emaciated skeletons with shuffling gray skeletons wandering around those piles in the remains of your cities.
There is no dodging this, there is no appealing this, there is no middle ground.
Im sorry.
Pretty sure that Trump knows he is going to Caesar Augustus or dead.
Don Jr. does. But we worry because Trump is a merchant and a trader. He’s got a presupposition to towards trying for win/win when it’s a win or die situation.
I’m greatly heartened by his response to his supporters being attacked but I’m disheartened that he hasn’t put up the bail money to get Kyle out of jail and I’m really worried about Barr. Those 17 DOJ employees who defied him have not been removed.
I meant predisposition, not presupposition.
Kyle is held without bail
Trump needs to pardon him.
Doesn’t work that way, presidential pardons are only for federal crimes.
So I’m not saying that the rogue DoJ employees shouldn’t be fired, but according to the DoJ’s own stats, they have over 9200 attorneys. It may simply be the case that Barr feels he has bigger fish to fry at the moment than dealing with 17 bad eggs. And who knows, maybe they are being useful in some other capacity (like, maybe they’re monitored, or moles).
I won’t pretend to be able to mind-read Barr, but based solely on his actions, he seems to be a party man who knows which way the wind is blowing, somewhat in the vein of Ted Cruz. I think he’s loyal to the party, and not necessarily Trump, but has realized by now that Trump is the entire future of the party, otherwise the party has no future. Consequently, I’m pretty sure he’ll do the right thing, to the extent that he’s able, but may not be as quick to retaliate against other party men who are simply a bit dim or cucked.
Trump has no downside to escalating, it was already his modus operandi and escalating protects his life whether or not it results in a second term as President. No matter what the game now is to inflame, nuclear-redpill (and grow) Red America as insurance and leverage for whatever else he may do.
If the goal is to crush the Cathedral, Trump out of office until 2024 is more powerful than in office and a more feasible, less risky option than crossing another Rubicon every few days until he is in charge. He could have done that with a 65 percent landslide stolen and 80 percent in the military, but it’s harder at 55 and 60. Trump presidency 2.0 would be bad for them, but not fatal and they will simply wait for his passing and the magic of demographics to give them their permanent victory. Obviously both options are very welcome but I see God Emperor-in-waiting as the more powerful one and somehow also likely.
> If the goal is to crush the Cathedral, Trump out of office until 2024 is more powerful than in office
Trump out of office means he will never win an election again, and Republicans will never win an election again, except perhaps when they are allowed to for appearances sake.
If the Left can wholesale steal this election, and walk away unpunished, they will steal every election from here on out with impunity. There will be no more dark horse upsets à la 2016, because every election of import (and increasingly every election, no matter how trivial) will be decided ahead of time.
Why would you ever return to fair play (or even fair-ish play) after flagrant cheating is revealed to be risk-free?
@Omar is just a Trump card now
I think you’re suffering from Normalcy Bisis. Reconsider things from the light that the Dems will cheat on a massive scale in every election and have already used the DoJ to prosecute innocent people like Flynn.
Normalcy bias
Trump out of office is a dead man walking
No, it isn’t. I see the cuckservative coping mechanism at play here: “losing isn’t so bad, we’ll get used to it, it might even be better this way because [unintelligible nonsense]”.
Crushing the Cathedral requires getting rid of the bureaucrats and severing the state’s connection to the academy and legacy media, and dismantling the Democrat political machine would go a long way toward the “restoration of the Republic” image. Those things can only be done while in office.
Communists can get points for #resisting because they have the force of the Cathedral behind them. Our side gets nothing for doing that because Trump and the duly elected government are really the only powerful “friends” we have.
Biden didn’t win.
Real victory over the enemy only occurs when progressives get treated as Cathars.
After some decades of one-party rule, the Dems will quietly abandon Critical Race Theory and recruit a more aristocratic/meritocratic elite. But to get there we’ll have to endure another Great Leap Forward. Hope you like eating acorns and pine bark. The good news is that approximately zero African-Americans and zero Antifa mutants will survive this event.
@Dave
You are too optimistic!
They may do what you say. Or they may just kill everybody and be done with it.
Great Leap Forward and its aftermath is an example of the halting of the holiness spiral (by Deng Xiaoping). It is also possible to go all the way to the Killing Fields and total elite-icide, or even further to the seven kill stele and total democide.
Halting of a holiness spiral by Deng, Stalin, or Cromwell, while a possibility, is not a certainity. This is why accelerationism is retarded.
Dems are stealing the house back, like they did in 2018:
https://thedonald.win/p/11Q8q6Pe68/-house-gop-ballot-harvesting-upd/
Jim keeps saying the last real election was 2018, but I think the fraud was so bad in 2018 that the last real election was 2016.
In positive news Trump’s order to the DC police was obeyed:
https://www.dailywire.com/news/suspect-arrested-for-tossing-commercial-grade-firework-at-restaurant-patrons-following-million-maga-march
I did not expect that.
This blatant rigging is just too damn much.
What are the persuasion/game/leadership factors and elements that decide whether our side’s collective reaction to this is either A) cowed humiliation or B) righteous pitchfork outrage?
Or for that matter C) silent cold and retribution-plotting revulsion and hatred?
Shit. Is it possible they steal enough house seats to impact the House vote for the president in the case that no one gets to 270?
That vote goes by state delegation. Looks to me like almost all of those races are in deep blue states.
No. there are more red states than blue states. the vote isnt by party line its by state. one for each.
If the electoral college does not select a winner, Trump wins because the House votes, with one vote per state, and republicans have the majority
They’re threatening, possibly bribing, and terrorizing law firms Trump has hired to work the legal cases. 2 Large firms have quit so far. Do you think they would do less with the house? I would not rely on the house to make that call. We need the supreme court for legitimacy and they are much harder to intimidate.
I know that. I’m wondering if they can steal enough seats to flip the delegations i their favor. It’s pretty close last I checked…26-24 or something.
Trump needs to be willing to use force if he has to…
Not necessarily calling out the army but more holding them back and calling out his followers to occupy legislatures throughout the country… and then to pass what laws and amendments they are told to pass.
Unbelievable. I mean… Of course it is totally believable, we knew for a long time, here, that it was going to happen. But still, seeing the scale and brazeness of this fraud with my own eyes, is astonishing.
I want to take this opportunity to confess a belated moment of clarity:
The last couple weeks have shown for everyone just how delusional and mis-calibrated I’ve been in my not understanding why top leftists haven’t been making deals with Trump to save themselves. I’m so busted. Here I’ve been forced to confront just how (conventionally) powerful he sadly has not been, all this time, if the Cathedral has been able to plot and commit these kinds of horrors and even get this far with them.
I really was up my butt and dangerously underestimating their abilities. Horrific abilities, but abilities nonetheless. They really have attained independence from the President. Mostly. But without anyone actually being in direct charge of them either, beyond their shared membership in the Harvardism Mystery Religion. It’s scary as fuck.
I don’t even know what color pill this is. We can all see now why people criticizing Trump “for not doing X, Y and Z, since he was in charge†have all been completely full of shit. He couldn’t even get medical researchers to give a fair shake to the Zelenko protocol, and that was public fucking knowledge, right out in the open. Holy shit.
Now more than ever we can see that the Oval Office is NOT where the power is, because most of those fucks will just ignore you, do whatever they want, and there’s so little Trump can actually do about it. The handwriting was on the wall from 2016, and Jim’s been quite plain about it, but the truth just wasn’t penetrating. We really do have 1000 Kings, each 3 miles away. The fact that his own employees in Ukraine were able to impeach him for disagreeing with them… wow just wow. To the public org-chart that never made any sense, but it happened anyway. I think I might get it now.
It’s chilling because now we all know how Biden would NEVER be in charge of absolutely anything besides the toppings on his pizza, and it was surely that way with Obama also, and who knows how far back. Jim called this over and over, but I didn’t comprehend it to anywhere near the depth he did. The Presidency really is just the premier branch office of the Cathedral, and no one can tell those fucking people anything.
I apologize and repent for being so naive and thick headed.
Not even blackpilling or psyop’ing either, exactly. Trump’s first term has shown us that there are other levers of power that didn’t exist in 1990, but are quite powerful now, and that’s great news, but man this is some asymmetric underdog stuff.
> Now more than ever we can see that the Oval Office is NOT where the power is, because most of those fucks will just ignore you, do whatever they want, and there’s so little Trump can actually do about it.
So Yarwin was essentially correct in his recent “descriptive constitution of the modern regime” article, which attempts to depict the real sources and dynamics of power in the West?
He always wrote to convert the elite, and always said they were the best among us, and he comes from their sphere. They are certainly not the best among us and never were, and are becoming increasingly monstrous in both madness and malevolence. While they could reasonably claim to be the smartest faction until a while ago, that is a weak point compared to all their gnon incompliance.
He has cranked up the ass kissing since being doxed, which is maybe wise.
I find no particular objection to his mapping of the organs of the state, seems as lucid as he ever was, but since he does not expect the left singularity, and thinks trump is a loser merchant fool drowning in the deep end of the pool, his mapping doesn’t provide any value for our current situation – unless, of course, you would use it to argue for giving up.
They are the most competent and talented among us, that’s the definition of elite. He never said they were the most virtuous, which is what you’re implying here.
Now, elite professions are being taken over by their clients, and their institutions are becoming ineffective as a result, but the elite are still the elite.
The elite are the elite because they exercise power and are above the normal mechanisms of law, that they are stupid insane despised by much of their population (in a way that is unusual except among conquering Herrenvolk elites like the Normans) and unworthy means that they’ll likely lose power soon… but they are still the elite until they do.
Power is the Marxist definition of elite. The Gnon-compliant definition is that their status comes from being the best in some capacity.
Our current elite “caste” is increasingly not Gnon-compliant, but at the time Moldbug was writing, Google (for example) really was insanely talented and everyone loved them.
So to say that progressives were “never” the true elite or that their elite status only ever came from exercising power is pretty ridiculous. Progressives captured the true elite, mass-converted them to their satanic religion, but those converts were and largely still are elite by intellect and ability, not raw power.
All the remaining smart people in the elite are in their sixties or seventies. The elite has not been accepting smarties for forty years.
The elite has been dumb as a post at the recruitment level since 1973-1982
Anyone who got into the elite after 1980 should be fired to get a job more in line with his talents, such as Walmart greeter or Starbucks barista.
You can see it in their writing and entertainment level. They would not pass the old voter literacy test.
We need to recruit the elite from smart cooperative people, following in the footsteps of King Alfred.
I feel like we’re using different definitions of “elite”. Are you saying that everyone working in silicon valley, circa 2000, is dumb as a post? Or are you specifically talking about the media, government bureaucrats, liberal arts professors and other people we’d describe as Cathedral?
There’s elite in the sense of abilities, elite in the sense of wealth and income, and elite in the sense of political power, and they all mean different things and describe different groups (but with moderate overlap), but they’re all being used interchangeably.
If the direction this movement is heading is taking the side of working class and military “proles” against mostly middle class “elites”, then it sounds distinctly Marxist to me, and is probably time for me to peace out before I get eaten too, being from a mundane middle class family working mundane middle class jobs and living in mundane formerly-white suburbs.
If “elite” means “Cathedral” then we should say so. Rectification of names. Associating the word “elite” with evil and degeneracy is not something we want to do; our goal is supposed to be rule by a virtuous and fertile elite.
Obviously it started with Harvard Liberal arts professors, but in the Challenger inquiry, it was revealed that the top rocket scientists were dumb as posts, and that was quite some time ago.
People in Google were, a decade ago, extraordinarily smart, but all the smarties at Google that I knew (which is not a statistically significant sample) are out of there.
Chances are there are still quite a lot of smarties at Google, but considerably fewer than there used to be.
Intel seems to be similar. As I expected, their last fab just stopped working. NSA, obviously hard to tell, again used to be full of very smart people, but the signs are not looking good for the NSA. The US base of high tech is in free fall because idiots are in charge.
“Are you saying that everyone working in silicon valley, circa 2000, is dumb as a post?”
All the woke and companies taken over by them are dumb as posts. That is the end stage of convergence- purging everyone with two brain cells to rub together.
“If the direction this movement is heading is taking the side of working class and military “proles†against mostly middle class “elitesâ€, then it sounds distinctly Marxist to me, ”
You are being paranoid. We are on the side of the working class in the sense we believe it is wrong to torture and murder then for fun.
There is no opposition to the middle class. We oppose leftist priests and commissars- I’m not aware of anyone calling for a purge of white collar workers.
Jim, where would recommend software engineers go to work in today’s climate?
I have no good advice on that, and the world may shortly be radically different.
An example of how top rocket scientists at NASA were dumb as a post in the 1990’s was their decision to choose the failed X-33 spaceplane booster over the actual working DC-X VTVL prototype.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_Martin_X-33
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/McDonnell_Douglas_DC-X
Jim, where have these Google smarties gone? It must be better than Google at least.
Odd jobs for small companies. The bigger companies have less and less use for smarties.
The gimmick is that you can do something other people cannot do, and then you shop it around.
Charles Murray did conclude in Human Achievement that a number of fields had peaked long before the present day…And any analysis of SAT scores will find that, despite renorming in 1995 and dumbing down the questions, they peaked in the 1960s and have declined sharply since then…
@Not Tom
It is Vaishya+Kshatriya against Brahmin, and #OlderThanMarx. Of course, a smart Brahmin would predict the way the wind will blow and act to make advance preparations. But Vaishya+Kshatriya don’t realise that.
This is also a very strong current in Indian “right-wing” politics, and also in Eastern Europe. One blogger dubbed it the “swine right,”[1] that professes all the “correct” shibboleths (gods and country and everything) but is aesthetically repugnant to priestly sensibilities, and also vehemently opposed to priesthood itself. The victory of these swine over true Kings resulted in the priesthood mostly dying out, and the recalcitrant survivors embracing destructive ideologies like Progressivism.
In today’s Kaliyuga, a Kshatriya is supposed to hide his weapons rather than proudly display them, a Vaishya supposed to hide his wealth rather than proudly display it, and a Brahmin is supposed to hide his intellect and pretend to be a moron in public. The catch is, there is a LOT of resistance to the first (only) in the USA, where weapons-rights are hotly fought for, largely dissipated acquiescence for the second (remember how 50s Cadillacs used to be super-flamboyant while today’s cars are all drab?), but the third, anti-Brahminism, or anti-intellectualism is still red hot.
Trump mostly made a spectacle of flouting the second code, and flamboyantly displayed wealth like a nineteenth century Captain of Industry (remember that term?) before they all got dubbed “robber barons.” This is what attracted me to him, even though I have no horse in the American race. Trump supporters apparently like the fact that he uses golden faucets. I know I like it! We also rather liked our Maharajas travelling in bejewelled Rolls Royces as fitting their station. I thought Trump was resisting anti-Kshatriya propaganda (fighting for weapons-rights), resisting anti-Vaishya propaganda (making being rich great again), so it was likely he would also resist anti-Brahmin propaganda (making gods and country cool again). Trump did deliver on the first two, but the jury’s still out on the third.
I’ll chew more on this line of thought, and may make a blogpost out of it.
[1]: https://sceptremag.com/2017/11/22/eastern-europe-and-the-swine-right/
Is that the literacy test?
https://www.ferris.edu/HTMLS/news/jimcrow/question/2012/pdfs-docs/literacytest.pdf
Yeah no current elite is going to pass this. I know some people who work FOR the elite who might.
Google etc. were only ever smart because they were once small, unknown, and unintelligible to the political elite. Due to their rapid exponential growth, for a few years they were large, known, and still unintelligible to the political elite. But only for a few years. Now that the elite pays people to understand information technology, they have been forced to become generic corporations, and they are losing or have lost what made them special.
What’s less clear is whether Googles can still be founded, or whether controls now exist at the startup level. A lot of people are leaving the jurisdiction, but they’re yet to achieve anything great.
Google today has 100k employees. It probably peaked at 5-10k. The Damore affair, as we recall, revealed that it’s a crazy place now. (Also Google X gives more than a whiff of being a big, useless sinecure for various impostors.)
Yeah, the Shaniqua worshipers sure are competent and talented, so many achievements and proof of their capabilities to display! Caligula and Nero were also the greatest and brightest of Romans, no doubt.
There’s a reason why great men are often seen as outsiders by “the elites” of their time. The only true elite is the king and his men who rose leading their people, those who achieve success through their own merits, not the worthless faggots that inherit the silver platter. The FF were indeed an elite, the permanent government is not a true elite, just a bunch of hijackers with psychotic tendencies that makes them more willing to parasite and exploit the system.
It’s a common motif of the human experience that the father builds and the son destroys. Or the grandfather builds, the father maintains and the grandson destroys. Or even the father builds, the son destroys, the grandson rises from the ashes. Whether it’s in politics or business, it’s very common.
If it wasn’t because being against inheritance would remove incentive for men to work towards the future, I’d happily remove the concept from a society of my preference.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbpicjtBOwc elite btw
Elites, rulers and managers are separate concepts with a little bit of overlay.
“Shaniqua worshipers” does not represent even close to the entire elite.
Jim talks a lot about normalcy bias but this is basically abnormalcy bias, taking the latest innovations and projecting them back into history as if they’ve always been there.
I reiterate, when Moldbug was writing his magnum opus, and certainly when he was growing up, there were few if any Shaniqua worshipers in the elite, and not all that many in the permanent government. At best you got the “tolerance” and “color blindness” crap back then.
We can’t project the past into the future and assume that things will continue as normal, but it also does us no good to get so swept up in current events that we forget even the very recent past.
I think at least until maybe shorty before Moldbug’s time the cathedral elites resembled people like Sir Humphrey Appleby in Yes Minister.
High verbal iqs, and interested in bureaucratic institutional aggrandizement… but “conservative” (in the sense of being pro status quo) otherwise.
The elderly people in the elite resembled Sir Humphrey Appleby in Yes Minister.
But they have been dying off and retiring.
The younger people in the elite would fail the old voter literacy test.
One thing I never quite got…
Do you know exactly WHY they decided their replacements were going to be insane communist morons?
They did not intentionally decide that.
They are evil people, and are frightened when other evil people who are too smart are close to them. They prefer those around them to be considerably dumber than they are, for safety’s sake.
They lack cohesion, so they select for the faith, and select the most holy. And in the struggle for power, the holiest have the most cohesion, so the holiest faction tends to win.
@Cominator
The elderly Cathedral ruling class named morons as their replacements for the same reason Sultan Qaboos refused to name a successor in his lifetime.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qaboos_bin_Said
Sir Humphrey Appleby was downright cynical if he was typical why did they start selecting for holiness I can understand stupidity but why ideological fanaticism.
The fanatics work together more effectively than the cynics, and the fanatics select for fanaticism. A cynic will not select for fanaticism, but he will allow himself to be manipulated by those who do, because he does not care.
>Do you know exactly WHY they decided their replacements were going to be insane communist morons?
The center-left technocrats believed the communist morons were their moral superiors, that’s why. The communist morons believed everything the old elites believed, but with a stronger and purer faith. The old elites wanted to help the poor. Well, the communist morons REALLY wanted to help the poor. They wanted racial equality. The communist morons REALLY wanted racial equality. They wanted a one-world government. The communist morons REALLY wanted a one-world government.
The classic mid-20th Century center-left technocrats tolerated all kinds of what Larry Auster called “unprincipled exceptions” to smooth their insane faith’s coexistence with reality. But unprincipled exceptions are weak, and they don’t last. I’m sure they thought the communist morons were extreme and impractical, but they also thought they were righteous. More righteous than they themselves were.
Read Tom Wolfe’s classic, “Mau-mauing the Flack Catchers.” http://teageegeepea.tripod.com/maumau.html
It’s about groups of poor NAM youths insulting, shaming, and intimidating nice liberal government bureaucrats to demand more gibs. What you’re asking about is the same thing on a larger scale. Of course the “sensible” liberal bureaucrats let unhinged Leftists replace them; they had already conceded in their hearts that the unhinged Leftists were better people.
Patently untrue today to everyone that isn’t deranged, sorry to say.
Even the businessman who is a real elite and is trying to save your country from the evil and false elite has a Platinum Plan, that’s how prominent and pervasive the sickness is, and he is in his 70s too. The “elite” have increasingly been Shaniqua worshipers since the 60s, let alone the 2000s that you talked about.
You are deranged, caricaturizing an entire class of people this way, most of whom are merely terrified of the consequences of going against it.
The “elite” are not all the Cathedral, are definitely not all negro worshipers, and Marxist class analysis is putrid garbage.
Just dropped by to say this is the worst crypto-Marxist drivel I’ve read in a long time, and certainly the worst I’ve read here. Much mental confusion is evident here.
Your helicopter awaits, dear sir!
Reproduction is the point of life.
Inheritance is the basis of life.
So much for the dear “founding fathers” and their concept of “posterity” for which they felt obliged to leave some blessings or whatever.
I’d definitely expect a street shitter to be incapable of using or understanding meritocracy. This is one of the reasons your people have been worthless for a long time and the embarrassment of Asia considering how bad you are compared to places like China, Japan and South Korea.
My view is coloured by the locals over here, but it looks like the most competent and talented also in america have increasingly been avoiding public power, while many public servants, just doing what they are told in their high competition service, have been and still are that elite.
And i’m pretty sure he both implied and explied their highest virtue as well, but won’t dig around for a reference.
Elite crew, retard management, in my estimation with the usual added caveats that i don’t actually experience america except for when i go for vacations and from various neofascist hateblogs, as Moldbug once called UR.
And since you raise the example of Googles talent, certainly tech companies are not the go-to example of of the progressive religion in power. You are talking about the people who have already proven themselves to be elite by competence, i am talking about the progressive machine, those have always diverged and are increasing in divergence.
But on second thought i must take responsibility for the miscommunication because i used the word elite when i meant the cathedral, which was dumb.
Yeah, no objections there. Sometimes elite founders as well, but retard management wrecks everything and eventually the elite crew leaves, but nowhere near instantly, and the cycle is always repeating.
There are no end of problems with our current system of “elitehood” but I think they can be boiled down to a few categories:
– Elites not behaving virtuously, instead showing contempt for nonelites
– Elite status being bestowed (i.e. by committee or consensus) rather than earned through traditional means
– Overproduction of elites, i.e. Brahmins taking positions they aren’t suited for because all the actual Brahmin positions are taken
– Undesirables being installed in elite positions, which is destructive on its own but also exacerbates the previous issue.
So yes, this all leads to what we might call a garbage elite, but Moldbug wasn’t trying to reach the entire elite, he was trying to convert what was left of the good ones. Personally, I think it is our responsibility to prevent this dire situation from congealing into a society-wide outburst of generic anti-intellectualism – at least to the extent that it hasn’t already occurred. Trump knows this, it’s why he shits on institutions and truly evil individuals but never says anything to imply that everyone who works there or associates with them is evil or stupid. His comments on NASA are a great example of that.
> They are certainly not the best among us and never were, and are becoming increasingly monstrous in both madness and malevolence.
Indeed. Moldbug was writing back when California voted against gay marriage, and Obama said marriage was between a man and a woman. Since then things have gone past gay and well into tranny. The proglodytes are becoming increasingly monstrous with increasing speed and increasing acceleration.
To summarize, 2020 has been the year that Jim is the only guy left making any damn sense.
There is no magical force of law, bringing things back to sane, sustainable or possible, or defined. There’s only a mob, running, trying to keep up with each other and not get run over.
There is a state church, yes, but no one is in charge of the state church either. They can’t say “OK everybody, we’re running to this place here, and then we stop.†No no no. They can only effervesce a running consensus that “OK guys, we’re seem to be running in this general direction now.â€
But everyone still has to keep running.
The running is so fast now that even dummies can notice it happening. We can watch circus freaks attacking Saint Kyle with fists and a skateboard, while he’s holding a rifle, get shot for it, and the next day Kyle was the bad guy out attacking people. Logic and self-preservation is in such amazing conflict now with a person’s need to fit in and not be witch-hunted by the people around him. So I can make sense and get lynched, or recite 2+2=5, feed my children to alligators and “surviveâ€.
All this fake ass history about communism and genocides being “tricked†into the world by an evil super-genius who figured out how to turn stones into wine. Bullshit. People are sinful, the mob runs, and some people ride it better than others.
(Jim is shaking his head in frustration with me, muttering “Hasn’t this dumbfuck been reading me for 10 years?â€)
>It’s chilling because now we all know how Biden would NEVER be in charge of absolutely anything besides the toppings on his pizza, and it was surely that way with Obama also, and who knows how far back.
I think Kamala would. I sense a ruthless, mean, even sadistic streak in her that generally makes one a power player not to be ignored. Prediction: if President Trump wins at the Supreme Court, then Biden retires and Kamala Harris is the leader of the color revolution. And not only a figurehead.
I wonder, what exactly are the beliefs of “NRx” regarding women in positions of leadership? In my experience (which is, by definition, anecdotal for others), women are incapable of leadership. Most men are also incapable of leadership, so in that matter women are equivalent to most men. But among true leaders, women are conspicuously absent. And I don’t mean at the nation-state level only. Even mundane micro institutions, if led by women, tend to behave like a rag fluttering in the wind. Even a household led by a woman is conspicuously insolvent/degenerate, and becomes more so over time.
Given that, I don’t believe Kamala Harris is, or ever will be, anything more than a figurehead. I would like to know and understand the person(s)/institution(s) propping her up, though.
In my experience women are incaple of leadership that benefits those that are led. A woman in a leadership position may be competent enough to defend that position while betraying those she is leading – see e.g. Merkel.
I’d doubt that the left can have leadership before the holiness spiral is stopped. My expectations are that the left will have a leader as soon as a Stalin shows up. Until then any lefty might at best be a short-term figurehead that is constantly driven by fear of being replaced by someone to the left of him.
The next Stalin might identfy as a women and look somewhat female, but was born male.
XD 10/10
But seriously, you have substituted the Woman Question by the Tranner Question. Given their psychological instability, extreme sexual fetishes involving dreaming about uteruses and self-genital mutilation (SGMâ„¢), and high suicidal tendencies, I would not think a tranner likely to hold even a janitorial job down, let alone head a nation state. Can a tranner accomplish anything to stop the descent into madness, instead of accelerating it? What is NRx dogma?
>I would not think a tranner likely to hold even a janitorial job down, let alone head a nation state.
If only. A lot of the autogynephiles are driven, successful, manly men. They’re the source of trannyism’s demonic energy. Look at “Jennifer” Pritzker (try not to vomit) and all those high-ranking military tranners.
I’m wondering if some of them just do it for status on the leftist totem pole. Especially with Pritzker that seems likely.
Autogynephilia I have to admit is something I still do not completely understand. For example I had assumed “Coraline” was just a fraud who maybe contributed some documentation or something and felt entitled to play SJW, but I take Jim’s word that he’s actually a competent programmer (Looks like he only wrote Ruby stuff and I don’t know Ruby at all).
I don’t think you want to.
Autogynephilia probably wouldn’t be that harmful if it weren’t for the tranny movement. It’s a bizarre and kind of disgusting idea, to be sure, but until it became medicalized, it only lived in those men’s imaginations, and all of the actual trannies were homos. The autos have been deluded into believing that a sex-change operation actually does what the name implies, which is why they go completely psycho after realizing what they’ve actually done to themselves. The homo trannies, by contrast, act pretty much like ordinary homos (as “ordinary” as they get, anyway).
It’s also why “deadnaming” and “you will never be a real woman” stings them so severely. The homos don’t really care, they’re only doing it to feed their promiscuity and general perversion, but the autos tend to be people who’ve genuinely bought into critical gender theory and are shocked and depressed to discover that they aren’t anything resembling female at all.
Thanks for the explanation. I looked up some further info and looks like a rare case of me being too cynical. I thought autos were perpetrators of critical gender theory, but they are probably its victims more so. Sad. Many such cases!
Sounds surreal, but you might be right. Although Islam would become even more attractive. If mass self-mutilation and renouncing reproduction becomes a tenet of the ideology then joining Islam will not sound so bad any more to a lot of people. Not to mention they will outbreed leftism anyway, if this tranner Stalin doesn’t reverse mass immigration (i.e. send Muslims packing, which is not lefter than trannyism and therefore would not be done, but is lefter than the alternative, artificial whites-only breeding).
The most stalinesque woman worldwide that I know of was Sarah Wagenknecht who you surely also know. She has advocated a slightly less insane version of leftism for about 20 years and has not much wavered in her positions. If any woman could conceivably pull a Stalin it’s someone like her. Her party moved left from under her, but she stayed firm. But probably she wouldn’t be so firm as chancellor. Merkel also ran as a conservative after all.
> Sarah Wagenknecht
Sahra Wagenknecht
10/10 would bang. I dig those Persian looks. Female Leftism is a shit test.
Hottest 51 year old by far. Too bad she can’t have children any more, they would have been beautiful and smart. Another Cathedral victim.
Oh I’m sure if we talked to her like we talked on this blog she would be dripping through her pants, but still she is intellectually into leftism/marxism at a level that I have never seen in a woman and she is one of the few women who knows how to argue more or less logically. A really weird specimen.
Btw she is literally the only left-wing Persian I have ever seen. They tend to be huge shitlords, even the women. They don’t even half-heartedly recite Cathedral platitudes like Arabs do. One problem seems to be entryism into Christianity, they often pray in Catholic churches and such.
Men are better suited for leadership for obvious biological reasons like testosterone, physical strength and deep voices that project well, and men have much higher variability on all physical traits than women.
As with most bimodal distributions, this means that if you select for an extreme (“best leaders”), they will essentially all be from the wider distribution, especially if its mean is better. All great leaders are men, and virtually all good leaders are men.
Because of variability, some men might make truly terrible leaders and be even worse than any random woman you put in the same position, even when you take into account shit testing and other destructive behavior. But that’s no reason to ever choose a woman; it’s the same as eating Hot Pockets for every meal because they’re consistently bad but a steak might be overcooked or give you food poisoning. Women have consistently poor leadership ability. Just do some quality control on your male leaders and you’ll always have a better outcome.
Even if you do find that one unicorn female who can somehow lead, you’ll really want to get those genes passed down and the only way to do that is to not let her lead.
Then we agree about Kamala Harris never being more than a figurehead?
In the sense that all Democratic presidential candidates are mere figureheads, there to stand aside and let the permanent government do government stuff without interference.
Women may be useless as leaders, but that doesn’t mean progs won’t put them in that position anyway. It’s busy trying to install whamen of color in every conceivable leadership position. And Kamala isn’t merely incompetent, she’s evil and would likely push the government lefter, faster, which they’re generally willing to do.
I think they are generally incapable of leadership, but exceptions like Thatcher exist. Thatcher was really no figurehead although perhaps her husband was guiding her, I have no idea. All exceptions gonna be post fertile age and I suspect husbands guiding them.
What I see in Kamala is not as much leadership, the whole game of the left is to be lefter than the next guy, you can’t lead that. I have read a very good description: the left has a direction, not a goal. Leaders set goals. So they are unleadable.
No, what I see in her is power player capability, Machiavellian ruthlessness bordering on sadism. Power playing is something women are better at than leadership, Catherine de Medici etc.
I just realized my previous comment twice above was wrongly worded, I called her both a power player and a leader initially. That’s because my thoughts are not clear about it anyway. Clearly she is a power player, and power players are more than figureheads, but they are nevertheless not leaders. I dunno how to clear this one up, other than pointing to non-leader but succesful power player women like Catherine de Medici.
Power-player in this sense could perhaps be also understood as a status hacker; it that it concerns only the *merely relative* sense of power. That is to say, a sort of existence that is solitary, non-constructive, and generally possessed of no overarching vision; each oft a consequence of each other.
Keeping your head up by cutting off all your neighbor’s; blowing up the astoria building so you can be king of the rubble pile; impotent in the face of high assabiyah conquerors; so on along those lines.
Women and power…
All except Thatcher have been disasters in Democracies that I can think of in recent history, I would certainly prefer Sarah Palin or Kristi Noem (the only governor to tell the Corona Karens to just fuckoff, which is what Trump should have done) to any Democrat but generally its to be considered a negative.
They can do well as queens in patriarchal societies (they don’t actually generally do all that bad) though and here is my theory… Women are under certain circumstances capable (and generally are better than men when it comes to understanding people and low cunning) of logical thought but normally they are IMMESELY influenced by female peers or if young also by whoever they regard as their alpha lover. Thinking is less important than fitting in with their peer group and pleasing their alpha lover (I mean when not shit testing him).
But a female queen in a patriarchal society has no real female peers, she has the power of life and death over all subjects male and female whereas most women in the society their husband or father has immense power over them (maybe including life and death). As such she just will not be able to regard any other woman as a peer. And her lover no matter how alpha he is can only be so alpha when she has absolute power… so a female queen being isolated at the top has no true herd and no true alpha lover. Those who survive and stay in power must develop their logical faculties.
A woman in a position of authority will go crazy because she doesn’t feel secure, and will start fucking shit up in hopes of smoking out a alpha to come take control of her so she can feel secure again.
If she’s not secure, then what hope is there for any kids you might give her? No point in even trying, right? Anyone whose tried to use their girlfriend as their agony aunt will have found this out; she doesn’t want to be your rock, she want’s you to be her rock.
Historically this generally holds true for Democratic female leaders, not always true with autocratic female monarchs in otherwise patriarchal societies (who don’t generally do too bad).
Thatcher had a high status strong manly husband, and she washed his socks.
If a woman in power does not appropriately perform the female role for her husband who is appropriately performing the male role, then she is a disaster, because she drives the institution she presides over into the rocks in an effort to smoke out the alpha to give her a spanking, chain her to the bedposts, and make her pop out lots of children.
The Cathedral is attacking Lindsey Graham and even want him arrested for trying to get the GA Sec of State to uncover fraud. This is a good development if people like Graham are wiling to do things that may end with them being arrested if Trump loses.
Yes, I am seeing cucks stop cucking, which suggests Trump is likely to win.
The only path I see that keeps the Trump family out of prison, which is likely to lead to execution or Epsteining, as it did in revolutionary Russia and France, is civil war. Trump gets some good supreme court decisions, they are ignored, he reads the insurrection act proclamation.
The situation in GA is really dire.
They are going through with their fake audit, and if we lose GA victory is basically impossible.
They will certify the votes Thursday.
I don’t know how Trump plans to prevent this within two days.
There’s going to be demonstrations there now but what difference will that make?
Lin Wood who is a very very good lawyer is in charge of the Georgia situation… I have made some calls to Georgia state representatives.
The Georgia secretary of state is a traitor.
Victory is not impossible if we lose Georgia, but given that we likely won it by 7 points except for fraud we should not surrender the state.
Also keep in mind that legal means are one way but Trump can also cross the Rubicon and seize power should legal means fail.
>Also keep in mind that legal means are one way but Trump can also cross the Rubicon and seize power should legal means fail.
I really don’t think that will happen.
Trump has always followed the law and he has been stopped even from exercising his power to the extent that the law allows.
He believes in the system like all the boomers do.
The government is full of traitors who will stop him from rightfully claiming the election, and he can’t stop them, but he will rise against the law?
Even the people who are the most right wing in the government mostly believe in the “constitution” and would protect Trump in its name, and “american values”, or, worse, “democracy”.
And they are “right wing” to the extent that they believe in these things, Trump would make himself the enemy of the Republic as they understand it if he decided to break the law.
On the other hand he might just believe he can protect himself for four years and run again, and risk less than he would rising up. To be honest, I can’t say which is safer myself, but he might just believe in the system too much to take the Rubicon option.
We’ve seen conservatives lose for decades because their entire ideology is to follow the law and respect it, and progressives win because they ignore it.
It’s a trap that makes seizing power impossible.
Trump and his family will die if he loses. There is no 2024.
They probably would. But that doesn’t mean he’ll assume that is more dangerous than the alternative.
The fact that every Trump voter knows that this was obvious massive 3rd world and communist level election fraud makes crossing the Rubicon much easier for the rest of the right, AOC’s lists, the fact that they are not giving up this covid bullshit and the fact that they are talking about this gre@t reset (Pol Pot enomics) means that many also realize the stakes.
So yes Trump could cross the Rubicon and win, its a question of will he. I can’t say I know… but I’m sure Melania and Don Jr at least are fully behind him crossing the Rubicon.
>The fact that every Trump voter knows that this was obvious massive 3rd world and communist level election fraud makes crossing the Rubicon much easier for the rest of the right,
The fact that most republicans know it is fraud despite media silence on the matter is definitely the most positive aspect of the current situation, at the very least democracy will be delegitimized.
However conservatives being discontent has never stopped them from still cucking for the kritarchy in the past, which is why I am pessimistic.
I still think Trump can win through entirely legal means, but if that doesn’t work I don’t know if we can expect him to cross the Rubicon.
Yeesh, if you’re gonna blackpill, at least make it original. This exact topic has been debated to death in this exact thread no fewer than five times. Forget a day late and a dollar short, you’re a week late and a gold nugget short.
Look, he’ll cross the Rubicon or he won’t. It does none of us any good whatsoever to speculate and whine about all the reasons why he won’t. If you’re so sure that he won’t, then you should be quietly preparing, stocking up on food and ammo and toilet paper, not kvetching here.
>If you’re so sure that he won’t
I don’t know that he won’t but I don’t think he will.
I don’t want to blackpill, I think that he still has a good chance of taking back the presidency. But I am feeling more pessimistic now just based on the situation.
>then you should be quietly preparing
I am personally safe. But seeing such injustices happen upsets me.
If I can get reasons why things might go better than I expect, I’m happy about it. I guess that’s selfish, but then what good does it do us to discuss anything in the first place?
Regardless, I’ll stop blackpilling, that wasn’t my intention.
Lin Wood seems extremely confident it’s getting overturned on twitter. Somewhat white pilling.
Saw something on twitter that we should expect more rural Trump votes being “found” like the 800 votes yesterday due to Dominion fraud which could flip the state to Trump even with the fake audits going on in the Atlanta Dem machine. Not sure if that’s credible or not.
Another theory I saw flying around is that Kemp and the traitor Sec of State both have connections to Dominion so Trump will arrest them first as a message to all the cucks. Likely just a pipedream but who knows.
I still have hope and Graham getting involved with the Cathedral screeching about it is a good sign.
“Saw something on twitter that we should expect more rural Trump votes being “found†like the 800 votes yesterday”
I think that’s our best hope at the moment.
Here we go…
Looks like same bullshit in another GA county.
https://twitter.com/davidshafer/status/1328813508012683264?s=21
Just listened to John Fredricks on the Bannon War Room, who is pretty plugged into Georgia, and he doesn’t believe the GOP state senate would certify that quickly given all the questionable actions by the Sec of State. 16 or so have pushed for a special session but apparently it can’t be called without the Governor who apparently has gone into hiding.
>it can’t be called without the Governor who apparently has gone into hiding.
Hilarious. They can’t get away with this bullshit, it’s too ridiculous.
I have just read an article that I agree with, but won’t link here because it would be branded as demoralizing and I don’t want to get into that sort of debate. Just sort of want to leave a “bookmark” here, that if that article I am thinking of proves to be prescient then as for further steps the best thing to do will be what that article recommends. If things turn out badly. If things turn out well, I will link it anyway, as it is important to learn from mispredictions. Specifically, to learn how not to be irrationally blackpilled. Around February. And please do not speculate.
just stop being a fag and tell us.
Not time for blackpilling yet, I have very bad feelings, but the data is looking good. I see cucks uncucking, and they would not uncuck unless they knew which way the wind blows.
Any site that says “Oh, Trump is going to lose, but then in the next election we will win”, or “then things will calm down because the left has overeached” is utterly deluded. Democracy has died, as it always does, the madness has been escalating endlessly as it always does, and is escalating faster and faster, as it always does until stopped by fear and violence, and now we are figuring out whether something like sanity will be restored by a Caesar Augustus, a Sulla, or by a Stalin.
I hope and pray for a Caesar Augustus.
Trump can only survive by civil war. What he appears to be planning is to get some good supreme court decisions, and when they are predictably ignored, read the Insurrection Act proclamation.
And then it is on, and in a civil war with clear legitimacy and a clear and legitimate commander in chief we will likely win easily with very little bloodshed.
We should not be blackpilling today, there is very good news in Nevada and Michigan and Pooch is reporting (I haven’t seen his information) that Georgia which seemed to me the darkest spot is looking up.
I’m just going off of what John Fredricks is saying on Bannon’s show who seems credible. He’s also saying Kemp must also certify electors as well as the state senate and he is currently AWOL essentially playing neutral. If Kemp can swing towards Trump that would be huge.
Kemp is acting very strange… yeah you can’t even get through to a secretary at his office and he has no email listed. I’ve made some calls to state congresscritters in Georgia though.
He was a good guy when it came to lockdowns relatively speaking (only the woman governor of South Dakota was better) but he seems to be tied in with Dominion money… its clear the SecState is an outright traitor.
Yes SecState is openly bashing Trump on CNN and MSNBC now. He’s a hardcore Democrat all of a sudde .
That the secretary of state was an enemy agent became obvious when he said no fraud in Atlanta…
Lin Wood had his number before the election though (I wasn’t even thinking they would steal Georgia before this), he apparently used a “consent agreement” to make it impossible to check for fraud…
Plus Kemp has to know no way in hell he gets re-elected if he turns on Trump.
One good explanation is Kemp is an oldschool Southern governor… ie a PURE crook who doesn’t believe in anything. Hes fishing for bribes and such…
Looking like a big MAGA rally will happen in ATL on Saturday. Maybe that moves the needle and let’s Kemp and the State Senate know the people aren’t going to stand for it.
Scott Adams is also hinting he has inside information too that is favorable to Trump and makes it almost certain Trump wins in the end…
And Scott Adams big unlikely predictions generally come true and hes certainly way above a midwit, he lost a bit of face with me in that he initially fell for the covid bullshit… I don’t understand how so many smart people otherwise were taken in by that…
I guess its that I have a much stronger paranoia filter when it comes to Democrat media narratives or anything I think even might be a Cathedral narrative… whereas some people try to think maybe the media is telling the truth this time I just assume if there is even one inconsistency the whole narrative is a lie.
Maybe you are simply paranoid.
I thought the same about Jim’s predictions about the election.
Of course, later it turned out that “they” really were out to get us and your paranoia was completely justified. But you guys appeared paranoid at the time.
I updated my priors regarding the destructive ability and willingness of Leftism and Leftists after both events.
There shall be no blackpilling this day.
The Don is rising.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EApCLbgAE5E
Meanwhile, the establishment is really running wild and blabbing it’s intentions w/r/t Great Reset, Lockdown Forever, and No Vaccine for You. And sending belligerent Shaniquas and Rayshawns into the Million MAGA March.
Is it just me or does this type of thing hand Trump some “legitimacy†of a different type?
Here’s an interesting article about Eric Coomer (great name btw), one of the higher-ups at Dominion, which as you guys may know is the company that developed software used for (fraudulent) vote counting in many states.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/denver-business-owner-dominions-eric-coomer-unhinged-sociopath-internet-profile-deleted-erased-audio/
https://redstate.com/tladuke/2020/11/17/trump-hails-election-results-being-thrown-out-in-clark-county-nevada-n281205
Good news in Nevada, not for the Presidential race yet but now the media and the left wing lawyer establishment can’t claim there is no fraud anywhere (this was over some local commisioner race nobody should really give a shit about and yet it was rigged… if they rigged that why not rig the Presidential race that actually matters) and Trump has good cause to ask the courts to throw out the Clark County vote entirely.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yD3op9ROL0k
Bannon seems 100% confident Trump will succeed
Yeah I listen to every episode and he’s been 100% confident since the Election. He’s still plugged into Trump’s people and has great intel into what’s going on in every state. When he starts to worry then that’s a bad sign but he hasn’t come anywhere close yet.
To the extent Bannon gets inside info its likely to be selective, Bannon is known to have a big mouth and to do things for attention sometimes.
But most of the signs from states other than Georgia are looking good… that being said we absolutely 100% should not surrender Georgia.
I don’t buy that for a second. Bannon was the sacrificial lamb for the Charlottesville fiasco. He’s still in Trump’s outer circle and regularly has Trump campaign people on his show. Trump had him in Rose Garden last week. He’s in the know.
As for Georgia, it’s looking more and more like the Senate is not going to agree to certify unless the signatures in Atlanta are resolved. The courts there are also in our favor and seem like they may force the signature verification to take place, probably why Lin Wood is so confident.
No Bannon got fired for running his mouth without authorization to a CNN reporter because he hates Jared Kushner and wanted to circulate damaging information about him.
If Lin Wood is confident (he wasn’t a few days ago) its a very good sign.
https://patch.com/michigan/detroit/wayne-county-deadlocks-election-results-certification
More good news (Michigan).
TRAITOR Alert in Michigan
https://twitter.com/politics1com/status/1328825108857700352?s=21
Feeling really bad.
Trump has to get this to the supremes in time, so that he can proclaim the insurrection act, and there is going to be an obstacle course against getting it to the supremes.
Yes it seems their strategy is to just run out the clock with obstacles.
Don’t feel bad Trump needs to get off his ass and start rallying now though.
Have we even bought a helicopter yet?
Fuck the Wayne County Republicans caved…
https://twitter.com/tribunal_watch/status/1328893669987020802?s=21
Not looking good – it was utterly obvious that the sudden late night Biden surge in Michigan ballots was physically impossible.
If there is a white pill it looks like Rudy’s day in PA Court went well. He was there 6 hours apparently today. Maybe he will get us to the Supremes before it’s too late.
https://twitter.com/jennaellisesq/status/1328849514015363072?s=21
About the Pennsylvania lawsuit, it seems that they are attempting to demolish the argument or take it apart.
https://www.bloombergquint.com/politics/trump-campaign-hints-pennsylvania-hopes-rest-with-supreme-court
I mean, when the Pennsylvania Supreme Court has ruled 5-2 that Republican observers’ right to observe counting process was not violated because nowhere does the law explicitly require that observers be close enough to observe (or any other “distance requirement”) and therefore it “would be improper for this Court to judicially rewrite the statute by imposing distance requirements where the legislature has, in the exercise of its policy judgment, seen fit not to do so”…
https://electionlawblog.org/wp-content/uploads/pa-canvass-majority.pdf
Republican observers are obstructed, and prevented from identifying fraud; when they try to remedy this, it’s rejected on the thinnest, most pedantic of grounds; and, after being blocked from identifying the fraud, they are then criticized for lacking knowledge of which specific ballots to indict as fraudulent. It’s a spectaculary and transparently Kafkaesque scheme.
All I can say is that I hope these professional losers are severely punished for their treachery.
Michigan had the most concrete evidence out of any of the states. They not only knew that there was fraud, they had multiple whistleblowers explaining exactly how it happened (like tabulating the same batch of votes over and over again, and eyewitness reports of trucks showing up in the middle of the night).
Seems almost pointless to keep dicking around with state courts and legislatures at this point. Try the Supremes if you must, but otherwise, it’s time to cross the Rubicon.
Trump needs to rally in those states… to pressure the legislatures to grow some balls.
Evidently too late for another rally to make a difference in Michigan. Obviously these particular board members fear the left more than the right, and cannot accept the fact that the left will kill them anyway.
We’ll see.
Yes they were doxed into submission.
The Dem board members basically threatened their lives on the zoom call.
This man needs the helicopter regardless of outcome…
https://twitter.com/nrxauthors/status/1328911342242320386?s=21
Link is already down, but I assume it’s the clip of the one chubby white faggot crying “racist” for three straight minutes.
When will we see just one of these supposed Republican
https://twitter.com/jackposobiec/status/1328909073790758915?s=21
Try this one. Threatens her children too.
Phone is being a bitch tonight, registering touches when there are no touches.
As I was saying: when will we see just one of these supposed Republicans interrupt them with a proper comeback?
Here’s a suggestion, for any cryptocucks who might be reading, directly or indirectly: “Listen up, you worthless communist piece of human garbage: when, not if, Trump starts his second term, we are going to parachute you right into the middle of this Detroit ghetto you are so concerned about disenfranchising, where you can bask in the appreciation of all those voters you are so very concerned about. You might want to get your will and life insurance squared away.”
All they have to do is what Tucker did…fight fire with fire and put his full name and address on video/twitter. Shitlibs are under the impression MAGA people are terrorist nazis in secret just waiting to kill people. Use it to our advantage.
If someone cucks because his live or the lives of his children are threatened, a rally won’t make him reconsider.
Its to make the legislators etc reconsider not the county assessors.
Aren’t the legislators etc in precisely the same situation when they and their families are threatened to be killed?
Do you think there are no or won’t be such threats against legislators etc.?
Yes. The time for rally’s have passed. The time for dangerous young men wearing Red Hats in the streets has come. The Proud Boys showed the way in DC.
Trump could make a public statement that this is an exceptional situation and that threats made to, or attacks made on, election officials will be dealt with swiftly and severely. Who could be against that (except perhaps the confusing media)?
Find and jail those who make such threats at least until 20 Jan. Force Twitter to hand over phone details, SWAT them for real, federal prosecution, etc.
Something of a hair trigger temper and a willingness to act may be useful.
Doesn’t that say they agreed to the audit?
Devil in the details…
They agreed to certify, and requested an audit from the Secretary of State.
Probably not a binding request, otherwise they would have said they’d only certify after the audit. And even if that were the case, I have no expectation that their Sec is any better than Georgia’s or would make any serious attempt to identify or correct the fake votes.
That was only the county. State legislature still has final say on the state’s certification.
Well if we have to go by the post above, the state legislature seems even worse.
They are political creatures hence the need for a rally…
Yes the state senate majority leader is a traitor but the other GOP members may be still undecided or more loyal to Trump.
https://twitter.com/joshdcaplan/status/1328849400442052609?s=21
They may be more loyal to the idea that they 100% will lose reelection and may be killed.
Threatened her kids too…
https://twitter.com/electionsauce/status/1328908294644248577?s=21
BAP likes my idea of deploying for state GOP protection…
https://twitter.com/bronzeagemantis/status/1328914339403866113?s=21
Deploying armed militia*
Also if you read the article hes open to going real slow… that’s all we need.
Director of CISA fired via tweet lol
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1328852352787484677
Amusing, but pretty much the final nail in the coffin for Thomas Wictor’s zany CISA theories.
At this point, it is pretty certain that the DOJ betrayed Trump and allowed the election to be stolen.
Notice also how the DOJ and the FBI are utterly absent these days, not investigating the largest election fraud in history, nor blatant threats to officials – for example, left operatives just threatened the Wayne County Republicans and their children in order to certify the elections. With impunity, despite the threats being made on video.
Where is Trump’s base? Are there any retaliations? No. Trump’s followers are following law and order, despite dealing with a criminal organization that couldn’t care less about it. The truth is, they don’t really want to fight; they hope things will go their way without risking life and limb in war, and they keep their heads down. They’re suicidally wrong.
The left has the prosecutors, the muscle – DOJ, FBI.
Trump has some good lawyers and, perhaps, the army – if he can make its use legitimate. As for the GOP – many are outright traitors – see in Georgia.
Jim is right – the best chance Trump has of winning this thing is obtaining a SCOTUS decision that’s favorable to him, until january 20 at the latest. Then, invoking the insurrection act.
Could Trump invoke the insurrection act without a SCOTUS decision? Will enough of the army, or of his base follow him, based only on the smoking gun evidence hos lawyers gathered up?
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1329060562442067969
Trump seems to be implying that they didn’t certify after all. Anyone have more info?
Breitbart, Newsmax and OANN have nothing to say about this, so either he has some unreleased inside information or he’s wrong.
The Democrat SoS is, as expected, saying “oh sure, we’ll look into irregularities, but we didn’t see anything wrong”, no doubt snickering off-camera. It really is third-world level shit.
Trump probably has more information than we do. Hes saying they agreed in principle but didn’t officially sign off… I like this.
Don’t get blackpilled…
I remain open-minded about outcomes, but I’m done with tweets and pretty much done following the kangaroo court cases. It’s pointless theater, always the same thing. Trump: “we have even more evidence of fraud”, Dems/Government/Judges: “haha don’t care fuck you”. It’s less depressing to just tune it all out.
The two remaining viable options are SCOTUS and Insurrection Act, possibly both. Everything else has become a fake and gay distraction, every new state court case is another insult to Deplorables and another notch under the Democrats’ belt. To maintain morale, this theater needs to end soon. Just admit that the pretense of an impartial judiciary is long gone and do what needs to be done, or admit that we can’t do what needs to be done.
There may be good reasons to build a maximum sense of desperation before acting but remember the 1st thing Trump did after the phony election was purge the military command… meaning the road to the Rubicon is an option when all things fail.
No defeatism until we’re actually defeated.
Trump has been preparing to do what needs to be done for some time. But he may be reluctant to make the move if he cannot build sufficient legitimacy for it.
Wayne county demonstrates that it is now time to read the insurrection act proclamation. I would have done so immediately, but Trump is president and I am not, and he is a smart operator.
According to A/C, Wayne County has not actually certified, pending the audit…But that could change I suppose…I would certainly be ecstatic if Trump declared martial law under the Insurrection Act and/or 14th Amendment…
What is A/C.
If they are refusing to sign the certification documents but are saying they WILL sign pending a REAL audit (not a Georgia audit) I commend the commisioners for fake cucking but not actual cucking… its about the best way they could have played this actually.
Probably the only way to not actually cuck and stay alive.
They are consciously or subconsciously waiting to see if Trump can marshal sufficient counter violence sufficiently quickly to keep them alive. If he can, they will not cuck.
Bannon seems confident none of the disputed states will certify (except maybe Arizona) and we’ll win in the contingent election. Wouldn’t that give us legitimate backing in a civil war too. Why do we care so much about SCOTUS? If the cases fail to get to SCOTUS and the states fail to certify don’t we still win?
I think Bannon is right about Georgia and the Upper Midwest states ie that they won’t certify (Nevada will unless prevented in court).
In the end any state congresscritter who votes for certification… has to know that his days as a government hack are over soon after.
A/C is Anonymous Conservative:
http://www.anonymousconservative.com/blog/
What did they say that threatened their children?
Named their school…
https://twitter.com/correctthemedia/status/1328969920357535744?s=20
Thanks Pooch, I missed that part the first time I watched
If Trump’s going for getting the legislatures of this swing states to vote for him, I don’t think it’s going to work. Even with the almost certain threat of death hanging over Republicans, they continue to Cuck because they have no cohesion and no one has their back. If Trump was a military commander who could send his Troops to back these people up or if he’d embraced the young men of the Red Hats in 2016 he’d be able to put steel into the GOP’s backbone by just by deploying his men.
The Supreme court and the Federalists on it have cohesion and can resist the pressure but Trump seems unable to get his cases before them. But even if gets those rulings, Trump will need to deploy solders to defend every important GOP official in order for this work. Trump needs to call up the Republican Guard or the Red Hats, or even the Proud Boys.
Rally’s won’t work right now. What we need is dangerous men in the streets and at every GOP officials office and home to defend them. These men need to feel secure in order to do what’s right.
The judiciary is heavily defended enemy territory so it won’t be an easy path to victory. Then again, what is?
I think I’d recommend large numbers of unruly young men in the streets at a minimum until Jan 20, if nothing else to show their displeasure at having the election and their future so blatantly stolen. The trash mob in Portland kept going for at least 55 days, if memory serves.
Try 155 days.
Dunk on me if you think I have it coming:
The state legislatures pick electors a whole month from now, roughly. A month ago I had wildly different ideas of “legal”, “proper”, “rightful” — and “possible” — than I do now. 5 minutes ago I was playing checkers after church, and now I’m in a strange ditch with bite marks and teeth missing.
Are we the normalcy-biasing ones?
Are we fuddy-duddies too, presuming that the conception of “legitimacy” will resemble in mid-December what we thought in October it would have to look like?
On the D side, nothing Trump touches is “legitimate” anyway, so neither will any kind of Supreme Court ruling in Literally Hitler’s favor make any damned difference. Meanwhile, on “our side”, “we” (and the $64 question is just how numerous “we” really are) already know this thing was crooked from election night and don’t need to see anything else anyway.
How many people are still left in between, and how many of them will speak up or matter? Just give me your takes, please.
So many cuckservatives are feigning “propriety”, and ceremonially bowing to Shaniqua in public, but how many of these very same cucks will say one first counter-signaling word if and when Trump just says “OK fuck this”?
You sure as hell can’t poll for that, and Trump has been calling bluffs for high stakes his whole life.
I can’t tell if I’m coping, being smart, or being dumb right now.
It would be nice to have some favorable decisions of courts, especially SCOTUS, because they would make it much easier for state legislatures to pick electors for Trump. As state legislatures can do that even without such court decisions, favorable courts decisions are not all that important.
Maybe Trump will win in the courts, if not he can still win by convincing state legislatures to choose his electors. If he fails to do that, he can still win by invoking the 14th amendment, reading the riot act or something really creative without much appearance of legaility.
How many people are undicided or willing to support Trump, depends how the courts decide, how the state legislatures decide, and how Trump decides to proceed. Most people are not yet so strongly committed that they will fight for Trump no matter what happens.
Regular people will always bet on the strong horse. That means, Trump’s perceived legitimacy will only decline with the more battles he loses, whatever the reason. (Yes, they threatened some Michigan officials; he should have been prepared, we thought he was prepared with his recent military reshuffles and tacit support of the Proud Boys).
Right now, the Trump “team” is losing many small battles. That perception can easily be flipped by winning one big one, such as SCOTUS. Maybe even flipping Pennsylvania would help. But Michigan is where there was the most evidence, the most witnesses, the most blatant and implausible and laughable fraud. Right now it looks like he’ll be lucky to squeak out a victory in Georgia, which was not even supposed to be in play.
I don’t think anyone other than bluechecks believes that Biden won legitimately. Everyone knows that Trump is the legitimate president. But that’s not what “legitimacy” means in the context of civil war. The great mass of normies will only fight for a winner. They have to see that, even if Trump doesn’t appear to be winning right now, he’s willing and able to do whatever it takes to win – and not just Trump but all of the important people on Trump’s side.
I rather like the suggestion of arresting Democrats who threaten Republican election officials. Throwing that disgusting shitbag in Michigan in a dark cell would go a long way to restoring confidence. Winners need to be prepared to use physical force when necessary, and it is way beyond necessary at this point. It seems to me that Trump, while he has occasionally been willing to deploy police, tends to revert to a default state of extreme reluctance to use force, and this just isn’t the time for blustery tweets and half-measures. That’s my take, anyway; if we don’t see willingness to use some violence now, state legislators and electors in a month will absolutely not believe he has the capability to deploy the massive levels of violence necessary to secure the electoral college and subsequent left-wing riots.
A week ago I was preaching patience, but now I am starting to get impatient myself. If Democrats are allowed to get away with blatant fraud and blatant intimidation and threats, then we’re in an even worse spot than before.
The backing down to threats is incredibly blackpilling, but I will say playing the racist card is a sign of their desperation. They have no legit plays if Trump is able to get past their threats to GOP officials. Threatening Detroit Republican county officials surrounded by niggers on all sides is one thing. Threatening rural Republican state officials surrounded by white gun owners on all sides is another. Ultimately it is going to be the state officials to certify the official state electors.
The right really needs what Hillary had and on a massive scale…
They need to start finding certain Republican officials who failed us in an ah how shall I say deep sleep with some indication that the person who um knocked them out did it because they thought they were a coward or a traitor…
And that um being knocked out if they cross Democrats is a risk but its a certainty if they go the other way.
The one theory I saw that made sense was that if Trump were to arrest people (if he even is able to) he should start with Republicans complicit with the fraud to send a message to the GOP.
Fuck arrests they need to turn up… asleep…
The right cannot have that, by nature. You’re essentially asking for a co-operate-co-operate equilibrium to be enforced, mafia style — prospective defectors know that the mafia will certainly kill them, so they don’t defect. But the mafia are themselves defectors from society at large, so it’s a case of some honour among thieves.
The problem is that we are not mafiosi or thieves, and lack the criminal mindset needed to defect with a clear conscience. We need to believe that we are right for us to do any violence. In that case, enforceable co-operate-co-operate becomes, for us, a coup-complete problem. The best we can hope for is militias or Red Hat-type action, but even that requires the participants to believe in the legitimacy of their actions or nobody will show up.
“The right cannot have that, by nature. You’re essentially asking for a co-operate-co-operate equilibrium to be enforced, mafia style — prospective defectors know that the mafia will certainly kill them, so they don’t defect. But the mafia are themselves defectors from society at large, so it’s a case of some honour among thieves.”
The mafia lost their solidarity that they had partially because they lost their ethnic cohesion (Luciano actually wanted to abolish the requirement that “Made Men” be Italian it was Lansky who advised him this was actually a bad idea) as they became overly Americanized but more because with surveillance, the RICO act and the war on drugs (which the bosses tried somewhat to keep their men out of but in large degree failed) the members started getting more afraid of the government than of the consequences of betraying their crime family.
We have belief in legitimacy, that Trump is the legitimate president and that this is essentially a communist coup… I don’t know any Trump voters who think otherwise. But we need people who will make other people fear defecting from us more than the left. Yes the right (which is not so much a religion as a coalition of less cohesive more individualistic people who are tired of progressive madness and at this point absolutely terrified of it going further) are not that suited for this but we have a lot of angry young men on our side… some of them ex combat veterans and such. Something should be made out of that, if the other side can monopolize intimidation it makes things very hard for us.
The only thing we have going now is a lot of Republicans even cuck ones have gotten the idea that the left is going to kill them all anyway as soon as they amass sufficient power.
>Something should be made out of that, if the other side can monopolize intimidation it makes things very hard for us.
Should be enough just to punish the enemy for intimidation. You reliably demonstrate that you are better at it than they are, and avoid doing bad things to good people. Should not need to indiscriminately intimidate dissenters.
I’d also like to point out, there have been a number of wars in history where the winning side lost every battle but the last one (and many more where the winning side lost every battle but the last two).
The situation is unpredictable and unclear, but the enemies announcements that resistance is useless are getting a shriller tone.
I had a very bad feeling yesterday, today somewhat more optimistic. Things look grim, but not nearly so grim as the enemy is so loudly telling us.
Resistance is not useless… but I’m not sure what political calculation Trump has not for speaking or appearing in public before his followers…
There has to be some kind of thinking behind it but I don’t get what.
Looks to me like the 2 main reasons are:
– He truly has his hands full with the legal cases and preparing for the insurrection act proclamation.
– Simultaneously, he wants to bait the left into doing something stupid by making them feel somewhat secure in their power. As we all know they are already threatening his legal teams on the non-SC cases. He is probably compiling lists like AOC. And if they (for example) move on to threatening or even killing Republican office holders, or do something like unilaterally declare a federal lockdown and try to enforce it with loyalist agencies (FEMA?), it’s definitely time to read the insurrection act. Even better if such a scenario happens after the SC ruling of course.
I fully expect to be proven wrong about this, but this is what it looks like to me right now. It’s in line with what we know about Trump’s tactics. Pretend to go along, then swoop in and rapidly turn the situation in your favor.
Trump’s Syria operation was classic 4D chess. He appeared to cuck, appeared to yield to a state department recklessly drifting into war with Russia, but when the dust settled, he had won. Syria had Syria, Russia had a reliable ally, we had an honorable peace, peace not only between us, Syria and Russia, but peace between Israel, Russia and Syria, we had their oil, and the Cathedral’s Syrian operatives had a bullet in the back of their heads.
I hope and pray he has a similar operation going now to deal with color revolution.
This is exactly what I was thinking about. I was not a big believer in Trump or 4D chess before that, I will admit. Would have voted for him but that was it. Syria made it obvious I had vastly underestimated him and that he was more than capable of outsmarting his opponents.
I hope and pray too.
I believe Trump’s strategy relied on legal cases, but what happened in Wayne county makes legality irrelevant and useless, so he may have to change his strategy in a hurry.
Unfortunately, because no man rules alone, he still needs the appearance of legality for legitimacy
Litigation was plan A.
State legislatures and at least throwing the election to the house was plan B.
The Rubicon in some form or another is plan C.
The way most Republicans unfortunately are given the American right’s cucked Burkean intellectual tradition (you wanted to send William Wilberforce to the West Indies, I think Edmund Burke was more important to send there) they want him to try to do it legally before he resorts to C, but if Trump executed C successfully I think most people are just going to feel if not ecstatic then at least relieved…
Right. It is not for me to make predictions at this point, there is no “pill” here, but having seen what we have now seen, I wish to see less of the right’s time and energy spent on wasteful activities and more spent on preparing for civil war, which now appears inevitable. If there was a sliver of hope last week that the Cathedral might accept an unfavorable procedural outcome, or even allow an unfavorable outcome to occur, that hope died yesterday along with the Wayne County Republicans’ courage and dignity.
If we file suit, they reject it on absurd grounds. If they accept the suit, a higher court overturns the judgment. If the highest court reprimands them, they ignore the decision. If state officials attempt the constitutional override, they credibly threaten violence. All of these things, we have now already seen at the state level, and if it has already happened at the state level, there is no logical reason to assume that federal level efforts would end any differently. A SCOTUS decision could help a little with morale and legitimacy, but the state and lower court level efforts are largely futile and denoralizing. I’d drop all of those cases, publicly announcing them to be a waste of time as the judges are all in the pockets of Democrats, escalate immediately to the federal level, and read the riot act.
There are only two reasons to keep up the charade, either (a) he truly doesn’t get it or (b) he needs more time to prepare. But (b), despite being the more optimistic interpretation, is still worrying because he obviously knew this would happen and should have been prepared before the election even began. Somewhere along the line, he must have miscalculated. So I hope that these kangaroo court cases are just an excuse to stall for time.
The Insurrection Act is crossing the Rubicon. After it is read, the die is cast and there is no turning back. Civil war begins with the activation of all branches of the military to the police down to possibly the militia. Fighting in the streets of every American city like ensues. All ducks must be in a row with no exceptions. I have no problem with him taking as long as possible to get it right. There’s no rush, yet.
Why would you drop those cases? Maybe they are a waste of time, but if so they are waste of lawyer time and not a waste of time of Trump or anyone who has anything more important to do.
Trump does not have a litigation budget problem. His attorneys can keep working on those cases. It costs money, but nothing else. He might gain something from these cases, but cannot lose anything. Therefore it is reasonable to continue with these cases, maybe even add more cases.
We are the slightly less normalcy biasing ones.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/13218788/dog-owners-78-more-catch-covid-riskiest-activities-revealed/
The cabal that runs Biden plans to kill your dog if this isn’t reversed.
The Covid insanity is ramping up to Aztec levels quicker than I expected.
I see it as more Pol Pot…
Great Reset
Build Back Better
Year Zero
Looks like just one crappy study, but the problem is that no study is too crappy if it agrees with the left’s conclusions. I had a similar feeling when they were culling the mink it Denmark, that soon they might find a pretext to kill dogs as well. Probably they will ‘liberate’ the cows and pigs first but then it won’t take long till they come for the dogs.
Cathedral elites hate dogs because they can smell good and evil in people.
Looks to me also more Aztec, if it was Pol Pot they’d kill the dog owners and eat the dogs which would frankly be the saner option.
If it appears in the press (unless the press is truly right wing or Russian) it indicates their plans, so yes this means 100% they plan to kill your dog.
A/C refers to Anonymous Conservative who is an excellent source for political developments and a strong Trump supporter…
AC is a qtard and general nutbag. He used to be an okay source, but he got too far up his own asshole with his r/K tunnel vision and went insane trying to explain away all the inconsistencies.
acting sec of defense shortens special forces chain of command by making them report directly to himself instead of the bureaucratic chain of command.
https://twitter.com/M2Madness/status/1329071464230789123
The world changed radically in the early hours of the morning after the election.
It just changed radically again a few hours ago, when open threats of violence were used to force an obviously fraudulent certification of an obviously fraudulent election.
It is going to continue changing radically. Violence is on the table, and Trump is acting to prepare to deal with it. Whether he will succeed is uncertain, but I think he will succeed.
>open threats of violence
It wasn’t an open threat, Jim. It was tacit, and deniable. Now, it’s obvious that the guy meant to imply a threat of violence, but the only thing he explicitly threatened anybody with was shame. The Left are masters at playing this game: they calibrate their violence to exactly the level the system allows and no further. Sure, it helps that all the authorities are sympathetic to them, but how did they gain control of the authorities, anyway?
Nah, it was an open threat. No one’s falling for their “shame” act anymore. The cuck right may use cutesy names like “cancel culture” but they know what’s in the velvet glove.
Yes, everybody knows what it means. That’s why he said it. But it was not an open or explicit threat. If there’s any official attempt to punish him, the bureaucrats, judges, and lawyers are going to be strangely obtuse about its real meaning. If there is any unofficial attempt to punish him, well, that’s right-wing terrorism, motivated by insane paranoia.
That’s when the God-Emperor sends in his stormtroopers to trash this guy’s house in a search, shoot him for resisting arrest, and then terrify his family. If all of the leftist bully boys wind up mysteriously dead for resisting arrest, then the judges, prosecutors, lawyers, and all the rest are useless. You can drop or dismiss charges but you can’t repeal a gunshot wound to the head.
They will, of course, call any right-wing violence “terrorism” regardless of the situation, evidence of which is clear in the bizarre and self-contradictory term “state terrorism” that they took to using 20 years ago for Israel, and IIRC even before that for Rhodesia, though that may have been something more polite like “neocolonialism”.
But what matters is their ability to use that label and make it stick, and the label tends to be extremely slippery for any acts clearly backed by the power of the State. Notice how, after a few hours of screeching, the entire media fell mysteriously silent about the Proud Boys bogeymen after Trump rather openly praised their work in DC, not unlike the radio silence on Lafayette Park.
Official agency or private militia, doesn’t really matter as long as there is state backing. Some leftists will always point and screech, but the establishment cannot come down on them like a ton of bricks unless their actions were unsanctioned – at least, not until the civil war escalates to troops and armies.
I hope Trump’s long silence is because he feels secure and is devoting the time to composing a very very very very long list of traitors to be executed.
Remember how Trump laid low while the BLM Big Nasty was going on, and then turned it around at Mount Rushmore.
On one hand, appear weak when you’re strong, and on the other hand, if you’re weak, don’t let anyone see it. Take your pick.
It could even be a matter of simple Pavlovian association. Maybe he knows it’s bad just for his face and voice to be around, in the air, on the same day when bad crap is happening, especially if the bad crap is escalating. Because then people associate him with the bad crap getting worse, and therefore not-him with it getting better. We’re not that smart.
So instead he lies low while the other side runs absolutely wild, virtue signaling to each other with their kill-your-dog-for-negroes Great Reset Lockdown Forever YEAR ZERO propaganda. They’re burning crosses in Deep America’s yard and it’s still November.
Remember how he made moves against Antifa from the shadows — black-bagging crews and stuff, leaving no hero-tragic film behind — and then showed up at Mount Rushmore.
There’s a biological speed limit to how quickly people can change their perceptions and expectations.
It’s probably a winning strategy to set our big brains aside from time to time and instead ask ourselves how a golden retriever or Down Syndrome person would have been perceiving things for the past week. Surely everyone successful on TV knows to do this, and in movie school they watch movies with the sound off.
You might be on to something. The insane Covid lockdown escalation and hysteria only strengthens his support at this point. Let them cancel Thanksgiving and Christmas. When he finally reads the Insurrection Act, he’ll have a line of militia volunteers 3000 miles long before he’s even finished speaking.
Thank God.
A long essay on Trump’s powers to invoke the Insurrection Act and call up the Militia: https://macris.substack.com/p/trump-at-the-rubicon
Wow that fills in a lot of blanks. I recommend everyone commenting on this blog to read.
Remember reading that author from way back. Nice to see him writing! I had the impression he was /ourguy/ through and through. Happy to see that it has borne out.
I like his philosophy articles, like the trilemma. If you remember some other such authors – how do you even discover them – please share.
I’ve just clicked on your name, got to https://homeoftheoldgods.wordpress.com/ and got all WTFed.
I guess we can be allies with Hindu nationalists but this was sort of a shock anyway, because you just sounded well not like a Hindu nationalist at all.
There’s no reason why either nationalism or reaction should be an American or European or Christian-only phenomenon. We even refer to the Indian caste system, more or less.
But, like ice cream, you don’t mix the flavors.
Genuinely curious about what you expected a Hindu Nationalist to be like.
Remember the Leftists in all countries are eager to portray their corresponding political adversaries in the worst light possible. I’m surprised that even mainstream right wing in the West buys into the propaganda of how Evil Hindu Nationalists are torturing the country’s “helpless and weak†minorities and how India has so little religious freedom
>Could Trump invoke the insurrection act without a SCOTUS decision?
Sure he could.
>Will enough of the army, or of his base follow him, based only on the smoking gun evidence hos lawyers gathered up?
And they sure would.
To put a finer point on some of my earlier posts here; if a man says he is raising his fist for the sake of X, and other people see that there is muscle behind that fist, they will believe him.
The common tendency in perception is that the weak man will be lying about what he is doing, while the strong man will be telling the truth.
Our sundry flavors of solipsistic refuse, one may note, do this all the time. A progroid will confidently announce it engaging in a program for helping X, whose program is destroying X – just as their news organs declare themselves saviors of ‘democracy’ while demonstrating it’s irrelevancy now today, without a trace of shame – and people believe them; believe, that even if things ‘go wrong’, then at least ‘their hearts were in the right place’.
Many, if not most, may not actually believe the daemon-haunted when they say such things; but they dare not say so out loud, in fear of censure from an other for deviating from the official(ly unofficial) message; that even if that other *also does not believe*, he can still benefit from playing the part of thought-cop in the dynamic, lowering the outspeaker’s status while raising his own. That is legitimacy.
Recall how the gramscian ‘march through the institutions’ actually took place in the 60s; black panthers physically entering into university buildings and physically beating up physical professors not with the program. If the question is, ‘how does Trump get the legitimacy for making enemies of civilization fearful of acting like enemies of civilization?’, the answer is to do so, say that is why you are doing so, and you will be believed.
The point trying to be hammered home here is, he who dares, wins. A strong man loudly and confidently asserting the truth of his actions while he and his gang carry out those actions creates his legitimacy. And if what you are saying is indeed the truth, then that makes it just all the easier.
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In the interwar period, one of the most valuable things the nsdap ever did on an operational level, was making sure every important person of interest had a posse following them around everywhere.
This is not just a signal to a larger public, swelling the pride of allies, while intimidating enemies, it is also a practical reassurance for the figures themselves, personally. Those of right mind will feel safer in doing the right thing (while those sitting on the fence in their hearts will wonder what might happen to them if they *don’t* to the right thing, and will then prefer to feel reassured by their posse’s presence instead).
Germany, like Spain, was afflicted by literal communist revolution during the weimar era; and Germany, like Spain, managed what few other countries around that time managed, which was to beat down their pinkos. And a major part of that was actually physically beating down physical pinkos in the physical streets, whenever any would come out to publicly signal communism (much like what was done in DC between red hats and antifa a few days ago). Friekorps, brownshirts, militias, and et cetera, were essential components to upholding law and order; which is to say, civilization.
You don’t even need to specifically give particular orders to your republican guards, the most important thing above all is just *being there*. To take a riff on his pal Rudy’s playbook, you put ‘cops on dots’. You see where trouble is, where you anticipate trouble to be, and you put your boys there. And when you put good guys around where bad things are happening, like a magic trick, you will find good things start happening instead.
“Yes ma’am, we are here for the protection of you and your fellow vote counters; we all want to this audit to be done smoothly and peacefully, after all.”
(((Historians))) seem to wonder how the NSDAP gained so much middle class support so quickly in the interwar period. The reason was simple — Germany was undergoing the initial stages of a Communist insurrection, with the Kaiser gone and essentially Mensheviks in power. Reds were able to extort and harass citizens with impunity, and the police were either compromised or disinterested to protect. One could resist the Reds and refuse to tithe them, but then could find one’s shop mysteriously firebombed with the police suspiciously aloof.
The NSDAP changed all that. If you were being harassed by Reds, you simply paid the local brownshirt chapter a visit, hung a swastika in your shop window, and the next time the Reds came visiting, they would get a solid beatdown by a couple of brownshirts. If your shop ended up firebombed, the Red office then mysteriously burned to the ground. Ten years of successfully beating Reds in the streets is what made brownshirts, and NSDAP, high status, not the other way round.
This is similar to how the mafia develop loyalty, and was indeed pioneered by Benito Mussolini, whose reign marked the nadir of mafia power in Italy, with many of them fleeing to America (and resuming criminal activity among the Anglo sheep).
But the crucial factor is inaction or complacency of police. In a just state, it is the police that is supposed to be beating down troublemakers. If that is the case, there are no need for brownshirts, and the state receives overwhelming public support. Remember those videos of Chinese police beating down “protesters” and then stuffing them into vans? That actually increases public support for the CCP, a fact that Westerners “cannot” understand. Following the law should be cool, and “resistance” appropriately low-status. The majority of Chinese believe that the police and CCP are on their side, which they are, in a way.
In the anglo-saxon tradition, the police is a royal marshal, and his deputies are all upstanding men in the community who bear arms.
It’s unnatural for boys to not be in a gang; and what else is formalism, but making the implicit contours of reality officially explicit, gaining power thereby.
I just want to say I find both of your comments excellent. This is how one correctly links those very visceral lessons learned from Jack Donovan and BAP into the more loftier topics.
Of course the fact that both of them are fags, of the rare, Yukio Mishima kind, makes me read them with a large pinch of salt. But I think the pattern is that in their case this mostly just means that they are sort of stuck in a perpetual adolescent mindset, they have a philosophy that is sufficient for boys but not for fathers.
But just as you correctly said, gangs are for boys, not fathers. And we get the same from other sources e.g. The Horse, The Wheel And Language: “The institution of the Männerbünde or korios, the warrior brotherhood of young men bound by oath to one another and to their ancestors during a ritually mandated raid, has been reconstructed as a central part of Proto–Indo–European initiation rituals.”
As for the Anglo-Saxon tradition, this is what was called a posse, right? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posse_comitatus
Another thing. I think it is really not possible to understand Mussolini without something like this. Here was a guy, socialist before the war, nationalist after, and a real intellectual, 100% intellectual. And he starts a movement that has no ideology at all, no real historic predecessors, no foreign examples to imitate, not pointing at a book and saying we implement these ideas, even though he as an intellectual was absolutely the kind of guy who wants to do that if at all possible. The basic names for the movement come from “fasci” which just meant a group, band, league or indeed gang way back into the 19th century. All this points to a situation where there was something pragmatic, indeed, “physical” to do for groups of men and ideology had to wait. All that stuff about Giovanni Gentile’s murky Hegelianism as “active idealism” came much later.
And the timing very much suggests that the practical problem at hand was the Reds: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biennio_Rosso
Without this, it is impossible to understand how comes that an intellectual starts a movement without ideology, without predecessors or foreign examples to follow, i.e. something that is not based on ideas, something full of action and little in the way of predefined political direction.
Mussolini was a guy who for the most part turned on the left (after being a leftist originally) and decided it was wrong about almost everything (not really his fault he got forced into an alliance with Hitler he tried very hard to seek British backing)…
And thought of a creative way to seek “a crown from the gutter” and beat the reds. Fascism as it started in Italy was more about an aesthetic than an ideologiy… we’re anticommunist too but you also get to join this cool gang which beats up communists.
And it was kind of a winning strategy until Hitler (who was much more ideological) ruined it for the next 150 years probably…
The Communist Left back in the 1920s was a serious terror. People were abjectly terrified by it for good reason. It left piles of corpses everywhere, and did it in an often OPENLY Satanic way. That movie about the Cristeros War in Mexico a few years back if anything seriously UNDERSELLS just how evil the regime was. Their soldiers would return ‘Hail Satan’ to the Cristeros battle cry of ‘Viva Cristos Rey’ (Hail Christ the King). People wanted someone, ANYONE who would fight that scourge.
It’s on a supernatural level for sure, as well as in our realm that we sort of know and kind of understand. I remember a friend’s father’s Baba telling him one day about the Russian revolution and Civil War, how he saw a tree full of blackbirds speaking, saying; ”our time has come!” and then flying off, and when the man came home from his trip shortly thereafter, he learned the Tsar had been murdered…
Best thing Stalin ever did was whacking Trotsky in Mexico.
Would that he have offed him sooner.
>A tree full of blackbirds speaking, saying “our time has come!”
Straight out of Gogol or Bulgakov.
Posses are always led by an older priest/aristocrat, usually with numerous sons and sons in law. The problem is that a fatherless posse is unreliable and unpredictable. The leadership group of the posse is extended family of the priest patriarch. But the muscle is young unmarried men, who are looking to prove their manliness and value to potential fathers-in-law.
Why are the police so inactive? Because they take orders from left-wing elected officials? Was this also the case in interwar Germany?
Weird that tough police are super popular yet people keep voting (we’re told) for mayors, etc. who tie their hands. But I suppose if voters were rational (and elections honest) Democrats would have stopped controlling Detroit decades ago… Of course there’s also a thing where I think jogger-preferred intensity of policing is less than white preference and falsifying jogger preferences is a badge for the woke white.
>Was this also the case in interwar Germany?
It cannot be compared because WWI was a huge transformative experience for Europeans. It made people either strongly nationalist or strongly anti-nationalist, no middle. Because the sacrifices made on all sides were enormous, so people had to feel strongly about them this way or that way.
It was so powerfully transformative, that it even affected Communists! Pre-WWI Stalin was like “the class war is the real deal, nationalism is a red herring, ethnic conflicts are a sideshow”. Post-WWI Stalin was like “well, there are bourgeois nations whose nationalism is oppressive and proletarian nations whose nationalism is liberating…”
This really cannot be compared to people who not only haven’t seen a world war, the Soviet collapse ~30 years ago made their nation the sole superpower, so not even the Cold War level of threats were in the air.
It’s more that the police do their jobs, but the DAs (almost all installed by Soros and his minions) overturn through selective prosecution. That’s in the red and purple states.
Berkeley, Portland, etc. are the outliers. There, they hate the police – right up until the moment they’re physically hurt or threatened in any way. No principles, no essence, don’t try to conceive of leftism as a rational belief system.
WAYNE COUNTY RESCINDED THEIR VOTES!
They certify *NOTHING*!
https://twitter.com/jsolomonReports/status/1329274837148299264
Their sworn statements:
https://justthenews.com/sites/default/files/2020-11/img-201118215108%20%281%29.pdf
https://justthenews.com/sites/default/files/2020-11/20201118184530537.pdf
It’s great that they have signed and committed to this now.
Feigned retreat… when we win this I hope they get very rich off this somehow.
The Republican legislature in MI had better not cuck in the face of this development…..Naturally, the commies did not live up to their agreement, they never do, but they have played right into our hands…..
Trump needs to set those brave souls and their families up with armed guards, so they can be protected. It would also be useful to shoot while resisting arrest the creature that doxed the kids’ school. Let the left know that you bring kids into this you are going to end up feeding worms or fishes. Send a strong message.
Its REALLY magnificent how those two played it… I hope they have long happy rich lives and go on to the highest levels of paradise… the woman must be a real NAWALT god bless them.
It makes me think of Sharpe talking about Major Lennox here (3:00 about)… a whole army ready to run…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0VRahfLKfvI
It would also be ok if he was shot trying to escape, like the Antifa in Portland….
This is amazing.
Very good to see this. I do think the outrage on the right after they initially folded was probably a motivating factor.
One thing I’m not sure about is exactly whom or what the affidavits are intended for. Are they for some state court case, or is this part of Michigan’s certification process?
The affidavits are a life insurance.
If they are murdered now, there is still the affidavit documenting that the certification was revoked. If there were no affidavits, murdering them now would ensure that the certification stands.
Eh, sounds a little far-fetched, the left tends not to let a piece of paper get in the way of Progress.
What I meant to suggest is that this makes competing delegations (one of the predicted outcomes) more likely to happen now. Dems will send their delegation, saying “they voted to certify!” and Republicans will send theirs, saying “that vote was under duress and immediately rescinded”.
Of course I’m aware that delegations are state and not county level, but since this one county effectively determines the outcome for the entire state, there’s not much daylight between the two.
Anyway, looks like Trump was right and I was wrong, although I will leave open the possibility that the rescinding affidavits came out because Trump was right, if you catch my drift.
At any rate, this provides plenty of ammo for the Legislature to refuse to certify Democrat electors and in fact certify Trump electors…
Trump spoke to them Tuesday night and guaranteed their safety it looks like.
“It’s hard for me to describe. There was a lot of adrenalin and stress going on. There were general comments about different states but we really didn’t discuss the details of the certification. … It was not pressure. It was genuine concern for my safety.”
Also, they are trying to continue with certification, predictably ignoring the rescinding.
https://archive.vn/jsVIX
Good. My first gut reaction was that “well the Proud Boys now gonna have to guard these brave people’s houses 24/7” but I didn’t write about it here because it is pointless, the people on the ground must be able to know and handle these stuff, there is no need for and no sense in some Internet guy across the ocean to hand out that “wisdom”, that would be ridiculously conceited. But to me it was obvious that something like this is needed, hopefully someone is organizing, coordinating that, and it is very good that I have no idea who that someone is, because if his name was all over the Internet then the Cheka (antifa) would target his house too.
They are for the supreme court.
When certification goes through regardless, civil rights case.
Also insurrection act. That the federally guaranteed right to a Republican form of government was denied, requiring president to call out the army, the national guard, and the militia.