Addendum to Jab Excess Death rate

When I was going through the xsls tables linked in Office for National Statistics:Deaths by vaccination status, England I skipped lightly over the primary table referencetable31.xlsx, because most of the data was blatant lies that someone simply made up.

Well, most of the summary data, that directly expresses the supposedly glowing health benefits of the jab is obviously pulled out of someones ass, but it was immediately obvious that it was inconsistent with much the raw data, and there is a lot of raw data on which the summary data is supposedly based, which is merely obfuscated. This collection of xlsx files is a gold mine, and I urge my readers to mine it for me. (But it still seems me that the best stuff is in the xlsx tables linked by Previous Versions of this data, which are less thoroughly cooked and less obviously fabricated from thin air.)

Well, Steve Kirsch has been mining it, and he found this little nugget.


Unvaccinated, age 10-14, 96 deaths in 2,094,711 person years
Unvaccinated, age 15-19, 160 deaths in 1,587,072 person years
boosted, age 10-14, 4 deaths in 1,678 person years.
boosted, aget 15-19, 42 deaths in 127,842 person years.

Which, if we divide deaths of all causes by person years works out as:

Seven deaths of all causes per 100,000 person years for pureblood children ages 10-19
Thirty five deaths of all causes per 100,000 person years for boosted children ages 10-19

Deaths of all causes, eh? I wonder what the cause of those additional thirty seven deaths (forty two deaths plus four deaths minus the nine deaths that would be expected had they had deaths in the same proportion as the purebloods) could have been. It is a mystery. Must have been caused by all those unvaxxed kid whose presence so enraged the Awesome and Mighty Covid Demon.

I urge my readers to mine this for me. There is a whole lot of stuff worth mining, and the gold need to be graphed, and the graphs need to be memed.

A lot of the data in table 9 is inconsistent with other data in table 9 in ways that make it look as if they ad hoc adjusted some of the bigger numbers to make the summary totals come out right, but not other numbers or were adjusting them by the seat of their pants without regard for consistency or plausibility. Some of the numbers appear to show that the jab causes a radical reduction in non covid deaths, which appears improbable, and is explicable as an effort to remove the massive increase in deaths from the summary totals, without too much concern as to whether the detail data makes sense. Hence my sarcastic remark in the previous article that Referencetable31.xlsx appears to show that the jab cures cancer. The older data looks less obviously cooked.

I would do it, but I am trying to make some small amount of progress with my blockchain project.

350 Responses to “Addendum to Jab Excess Death rate”

  1. Awoke says:

    Take a look at the Jan 1st to July 2nd edition of the dataset. They have a separate table for NON-COVID deaths (table 5). Look what happened to the death rate among those who’ve had the 1st dose for more than 21 days. It ends up 10x what it starts at.

  2. Mister Grumpus says:

    The truckers are modern Kulaks, aren’t they? Peasant stock, but smart and organized enough to end up owning and caring for a high dollar asset like a tractor trailer?

  3. Wulfgar Thundercock III says:

    This link has a video of a woman pretending to be a comedian (complete with period joke), and talking about how she is triple-vaxxed. She then says Jesus loves her, immediately siezes up, and collapses. Guess the demon in her did not care for that joke.

  4. Pooch says:

    Jim I’m not sure if you are aware, maybe you are, but Moldbug has linked to you on Unqualified Reservations. He even has the new links right. I think that’s pretty cool.

    Ctrl-F for Jim:

    • Yul Bornhold says:

      That’s not Moldbug, though, is it?

      That’s whichever fan runs that particular copy of UR.

      • Aidan says:

        It’s not run by Moldbug, but among open fans of Moldbug there are many quiet fans of Jim

      • Pooch says:

        I assumed Moldbug runs it. I would think he wouldn’t want some fan writing foot notes on his work without his approval but I could be wrong.

  5. Varna says:

    Russian national-populist leader and aggressive pro-vaxer Zhirinovsky has been hospitalized a week ago for Omicron.

    He has taken 8 jabs in 1.5 years, mixing at least two of the Russian vaccines, maybe all three.

    Up to now he was hiding his diagnosis, hoping the thing will blow over soon, as to not “give fuel to antivaxers”.

    Pneumonia, with 50-70% lung damage.

    • Red says:

      That’s the first real evidence I’ve seen jabs destroying the immune system. Very interesting.

    • Herman says:

      I wonder if dies if they will keep back the information to not give fuel to antivaxxers.

      “He is suffering under long covid and cannot be disturbed.”

      • Varna says:

        If he survives and is lucid once he comes back, they’ll not mention all the young blood transfusions and instead say that only the injections helped him beat the virus, and in fact he was actively working long-distance the whole time.

        If he croaks, they’ve got three plays the way I see it:
        1) He had cancer/some equivalent which he battled heroically and that’s what he succumbed to
        2) Say that some people shouldn’t get jabbed every two months, but only every four months
        3) Say that he only got three jabs and said he got eight jabs hyperbolically in order to motivate populace jabbing. Had he really gotten at least five jabs he would have been right as rain.

        Anyway, the three Russian vaccines are adenoviral Astra and Johnson equivalent “Sputnik”, subunit peptide “EpiVac” equivalent to the Novavax that globohomo is planning to roll out, and the trad “KoviVac” equivalent to the Chinese and Indian ones.

        No mRNA vaccines. So we’ve yet to see how the gigavaxed clients of Pfizer and Moderna will fare. In fact, this gives me another variation should Zhirinovsky die. Maybe they’ll say that he trusted the wrong people who got him to add a western mRNA vax, and THAT’s what hit him hard.

      • jim says:

        Yesterday I was at a shop, whose proprietor was illegally unmasked, and who had a remarkably official looking sign in his windows rejecting various control measures.

        A masked customer came in, who had been triple jabbed, and was suffering an omicron infection, but was illegally failing to self isolate. The three of us had a chat, and the normies are seeing that being jabbed makes you more, not less, vulnerable to Omicron, and the disease has worse consequences in the jabbed than in the purebloods.

  6. Pooch says:

    Re: Aidan’s claim for Zelensky siding with Putin

    If there’s a way for Zelensky to side with Putin and screw over the US it would be with the Minsk agreement. Apparently there is some interest in revisiting it. Previously it fell apart because Zelensky as a US/Cathedral puppet, failed to acknowledge basic reality, as is often the case for Globalist American Empire. If Zelensky suddenly starts accepting reality and grants and acknowledges the seperatist Donbas republics full autonomy (as is already the case in reality on the ground) this would signal Zelensky turning on the GAE as Aidan predicted.

    • Kunning Drueger says:

      Interesting. So it should be a relatively telling marker in both what Zelensky does as well as the blue empire response to its invocation.

  7. Kunning Drueger says:

    Hey Jim and others, are you familiar with Confrontational Politics
    by H. L. Richardson?

    • Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

      A decent an whose mind has unfortunately yet to escape the plato’s cave of demotism.

      • Kunning Drueger says:

        After ingesting 2 of his books (quite quickly, but he is obscenely plain spoken ((not unlike a certain not-prophet you and I hold in mutual regard)) and brief), his biggest failings appear to be hope for/faith in constitutional republican memetics and a willful disregard of GNON’S truth in Darwinism. These are completely acceptable foibles, particularly in light of how severely redpilled he is on demon worshipers, the primacy of state backed religion, strict adherence to the Bible, and clear pilled on political mechanisms. He is gone from us, but his corpus is an excellent tool for getting conservatives off of the defensive posture and hungry for offensive ops.

        For some time, I’ve been feeling like I’m drifting away from the pure theory of this blog. Not to denigrate it whatsoever. It is the best thing that has ever happened to my mind. But it is quite obvious that the intellectual scope and capacity of our august assemblage is above and beyond me. I’m beginning to mistake calculation and analysis as cowardice and dithering. Since I’m fairly certain that there is an extremely low number of pussies here, if any at all, I am forced to accept that the place I wish to be is probably not where I’m supposed to be. I don’t miss my time in the mist amongst the plains apes, but there was a purity of identity when I was alone amongst them. I like being alone behind enemy lines. I’m no great warrior, but I’m definitely no priest. My faith is weak, my concerns are temporal, my emotions are obvious, and my heart is in my home, land, and blood.

        Richardson is a signal. I think I need to just disassociate from long game strategy and immerse myself in intermediate tactics. If I had not so thoroughly cucked myself to leftist ideology in the flower of my youth, orif I had found methods for instantiating good habits early on, I would be at the level being a regular, skilled contributor here requires.

        This is not some fare thee well, ragequit faggotry. It just is what it is. I can’t keep up, so I need to find a pack that I can run with. I will still bring back any intel I find (btw Pooch, found out some more shit about Prime HQ: they are building a full security apparatus, complete with intel, K9, and SWAT) and if interest in developing a Based Security Company develops I’m ready willing and mostly able to get going. I’ll also be coming back for instructions and training if my efforts yield good fruit. But I am not suited to accepting passivism. I swear that I tried. For me, there’s no more retreat. I’m just going to start digging trenches.

        Thanks for all the responses St. John. I don’t know why, but reading your shit always puts me in mind of “Be ye perfect, as your Father in heaven is perfect.” I’ll be praying for you, and all the brothers here. Please pray for me and mine.

        • alf says:

          I would be at the level being a regular, skilled contributor here requires.

          I am always surprised when you salt your comments with professions of lack of self-confidence. I greatly value your presence.

          • Kunning Drueger says:

            And I really appreciate you too, my nigga. But I’m disappointed with myself, for things outside of midwit jackassery on the webzone more so. I have substantial work to do on how I see the world and what my place is in it, I have substantial work to put in on the home front, and I want to walk with God, not hide from his disappointment. To comment here is a pretty special thing. I’d like to believe I’ve done some good work, I think I am pretty good at opening dialogues, but being a father adds a 3rd person dimension to things that can cause unbelievably high levels of second guessing.

            And I’m tired of talking about Throne, Alter, Freehold. I want to do it. So lurking is the best way to get gudd, and putting my nose to the grindstone is required if I am to hold onto the modest gains I’ve clawed out of a wrecked life. Again, I ain’t leaving. i just want to be a leader, which means I need to set an example, which means I need to be confident and capable, which means I need to humble myself before God and my betters. This is probably an insanely high aspiration, but I want to be a monarchist namefag, no hiding, no hypocrisy. And I want my land to be a redoubt for brothers in need, because I think things are really falling apart. I can’t be a good host and protector if I have petty feuds with my brothers.

            • alf says:

              I’ve always been of the belief that Jim’s blog exists to serve you, not the other way around. Your goals are noble and I have no doubt you will come a long way in accomplishing them, if not over-accomplish them.

        • Arqiduka says:

          For what its worth, fully agree with Alf. Funny but true: I have this impression that you’ll eventually get into politics and make your way to the top lol. Can’t explain why. If you do drop a hint.

  8. Red says:

    Looks like the Cathedral has issued orders to start dropping mandates and masks. NY just dropped their mandates, as well as California, OR, and NJ.

    • Pooch says:

      Weird. You don’t see the Cathedral reverse from a holiness spiral like that. Election year I guess?

      • Red says:

        Keeping it up as cases crater was always going to be hard. After the UK dropped restrictions it became impossible for everyone to pretend about it for very long without looking ridiculous. Regular people know it’s over and that has to be reflecting in their polling.

        Though truckers using BLM tactics of blocking traffic against them probably scared the shit out of them. BLM blocking the streets was never a threat to the state, truckers cutting off entire cities is.

        • jim says:

          It has become obvious to the normies around me that the jabbed are more likely to get omicron, and that it apt to make the jabbed sicker than it makes purebloods. If you are pureblood, you are likely to be asymptomatic. Everyone is getting sick of the Awesomeness of the Awesome and Mighty Covid Demon, as they have long been sick of Catastrophic Anthropogenic Climate Change.

          And a few minutes ago my doctor promised me a medical certificate that will allow me to fly pretty much anywhere while pureblooded. I was planning to get it on the basis of becoming a golden pureblood, but I am probably not golden yet.

          I hope the enemy retreats. Sanity would predict a retreat. Sanity is in short supply.

          I was not expecting, and did not predict, a retreat. But the enemy is starting to feel mighty shakey.

          Ever more jabs forever is starting to run into resistance, as each jab is obviously dangerous and causing harm.

    • Kunning Drueger says:

      If this is true (not saying you’re lying, just haven’t heard this elsewhere yet), then we must decide if this is a/the result of concern over the trucker protests and a fear of them spreading, or if this was coming down the pike anyways due to “war weariness” with Coronahoax in general. In a fit of reckless optimism, I’m choosing to believe that there is real concern over the Honkening becoming the Truckening. If there was a mirror movement in the States, there’s be a lot more guns, a lot more police involvement (both for and against, we just have so many different agencies here), and almost limitless possibilities for escalation. And unrelated stuff too. The Canadians seem to be hyper focused on the Honk and nothing else; can you imagine what the plains apes might do if the sheriff’s departments are squaring off with the PDs over truckers trucking?

      • Red says:

        >can you imagine what the plains apes might do if the sheriff’s departments are squaring off with the PDs over truckers trucking?

        There wouldn’t be any living plains apes by morning.

      • notglowing says:

        As many of us noticed in the past few weeks, there was clearly an inflection point a while ago where the derivative of corona escalation started to change.
        There’s been push to end restrictions, and increased restrictions were losing steam everywhere, especially with the UK quitting.

        The trucker protest came at the best possible time, when there was clearly conflict between the two factions within our enemy, and it might’ve driven them towards one direction. At this point the remaining smart people in power must realize this has become an issue where there isn’t much more to gain and a lot to lose, with increasing friction.

        It seems almost idealistic to put it this way, since it’s not like opposition was an issue until now, and they don’t necessarily care if people die or starve, all the more reason to lynch the truckers. However if you combine it with some elite support for ending the madness, you can see how we might just make it out of this.

        • jim says:

          > However if you combine it with some elite support for ending the madness, you can see how we might just make it out of this.

          The end game is to kill everyone. Which is fast frying the frog. Some of the elite have reality detectors capable of waking up in the face of oncoming death.
          Omicron is the true vaccine for the purebloods. It may also be God’s wrath on the heavily jabbed. I suspect that around the fifth boost or so, the immune system will be incapable of clearing omicron from the lungs, which case the afflicted will die.

          There is obvious immune system damage after a single jab, one of my friends got cancer after the jab. What is happening in Israel suggests that the immune damage is cumulative. If you lose your immune system, you die. The Israeli data only makes sense as widespread serious and major immune system damage.

      • Mister Grumpus says:

        Yes. You’re implying that maybe a DC Honkening just couldn’t work out, and sadly maybe you’re right.

        DC has so many more Ivy Leaguers, and Antifa troops, and negro city officials who heard that something wuz rayciss somehow, and pallets of bricks in storage units, and pistols in glove compartments.

        So many Kyle Rittenhouse do-over opportunities that would end up in a shitlib DC courthouse this time.

    • Red says:

      Yep they’ve tossed in the towel:

      >There is no way we are going to eradicate this virus,” he said. “But I hope we are looking at a time when we have enough people vaccinated and enough people with protection from previous infection that the Covid restrictions will soon be a thing of the past.”

      >He added that he did not think every American would need regular vaccine boosters to keep the virus at bay. “It will depend on who you are,” he said. “But if you are a normal, healthy 30-year-old person with no underlying conditions, you might need a booster only every four or five years.”

      • Pooch says:

        I’m not convinced they are backing off vaccines. I’m still seeing propaganda to vax children in the media. Seems to me they are backing off masks but NOT vaccines.

        • Red says:

          NY just dropped the Vax mandates and the article I linked admitted to the existence of natural immunity which they’re describing as prior infection. Omicron is going to infect around 70-90% of the population with most cases being unnoticed because they’re so mild.

    • The Ducking Man says:

      Can you link where NYC drop their mandate?

      So far I’m still seeing Kyrie as part time player in Brooklyn Nets

    • notglowing says:

      If I didn’t hallucinate an article on my feed, Italy is dropping outdoor masks in two days, indoor masks (and I still can’t believe this) after march 31st.
      I wasn’t sure we’d ever get rid of indoor masks. They’re still required whenever there’s too many people close to each other.
      All signed a couple days ago by the health minister himself, Speranza, who is like Fauci for Italy, except quite a bit more extreme.

    • Yul Bornhold says:

      A progressive is a consistent conservative.

      A conservative is a progressive with sufficient common sense not to be consistent.

      I was a conservative once. You can see the progressive model is insane but the only alternative your mind can conceive of is an older progressive OS. The conservative mind has no understanding of tradition or reaction. In this mind, the “authoritarianism” of the ancient kings is the same as the “authoritarianism” of the HR cat lady. The conservative believes himself to walk the golden path of prudence and moderation between two extremes.

      I am speaking of the ordinary MAGA man, not the David French “they’ll never send ME to the guillotine if I denounce nazis” class.

      It’s the ordinary conservative strain that you see in this abbot (who, incidentally, has been mugged by a thug on the street who thought he looked like a Trump supporter.) A few years ago, he signed his name to a document denouncing “racism.” When our enemies say racism, they mean “all actions by whites.” When conservatives (like the abbot) say racism, they mean that we shouldn’t lynch negroes for afternoon amusement.

      So, yes, conservatives believe all sorts of cringe things. The difference is that their beliefs aren’t a screen for holiness spiraling and a justification for the American Rwanda. They’re just a collection of wrong ideas.

  9. Pooch says:

    Looks like the Canadian government is gearing up to mass arrest the protestors. It was just a matter of time before the federal police was able to allocate enough resources to remove them. Protesting does not work for reactionaries. It is exclusively a left wing tactic that revolutionaries have been using for centuries. I keep hearing people even on this blog say “But but this and that”. No. Right-wing protests don’t work and never will.

    • Red says:

      Protests don’t work without power backing them. It’s a leftwing tactic because the left has had power for centuries. The right way to protest is with militia backing. In the west that militia is the police and the left controls all city and federal police forces.

      • ExileStyle says:

        The right has coups not protests. Protests are about the dissatisfaction of the plebs. Whether the plebs side with the coup or not is often if not usually immaterial.

        Also when have “protests” ever effected anything? French revolution? Is that what we want?

      • Pooch says:

        Completely untrue.

        It has nothing to do with militia backing. In fact they have been designed to be used against the king’s military to force a violent crackdown (see the Boston Massacre) and then use it as a Schelling Point to show an outcry of public support for democratic revolutionary regime change.

        Exile is exactly right. Reactionaries do coups not protests.

      • Anonymous Fake says:

        [*deleted for massive and absurd loss of contact with reality*]

        • jim says:

          Observe the empirical consequences of rent control. Hiroshima, a decade after being nuked, looked fine. Rent controlled districts after forty years of rent control look like the outer parts of Hiroshima the day after it was nuked.

          After a while, rent controlled ruins are decorated with graffiti, littered with garbage, the corridors smell of human piss. They are occupied by human rats, the bastard spawn of fatherless mothers, who live on crime and voting Democrat.

          If you are in walking distance of a rent controlled population, subhumans will attack you, and will enter your land to commit vandalism. Someone will show up at your house while you are at work and threaten your wife and kids.

          Even if the rent controlled population is initially white, they turn into wiggers, they become subhuman.

          This has been tried over and over and over again, with invariably catastrophic results for the location and for the race occupying that location. Normal humans cannot breed under rent control, so the best people move out to get an opportunity to have children, and the degenerates breed like the rats they rapidly come to resemble.

          The long term consequences of rent control are apparent, and are vastly worse than nuclear war.

          Rent control is someone in power using human vermin to attack other people’s property rights, but because this tactic grants neither the attacker nor his horde of human vermin secure and complete property rights, everything goes to hell in handbasket. Without secure property rights, no one will husband the property. With no one husbanding property, everything falls apart.

          To raise a family, a man needs property rights in his house and land, so after a few years, no families under rent control, just feral women and their bastard spawn. Subhuman occupation eventually results in physical destruction of the buildings, which eventually become unlivable and are abandoned. It is a slow Hiroshima.

          • Anonymous Fake says:

            The point is that the cities should [*list of worthy right wing objectives that left wing measures would supposedly accomplish deleted*]

            • jim says:

              The measures you propose seem unlikely to be productive of those effects.

              They have also been tried before, repeatedly, for centuries, with same results every time.

              I would let your proposals through and debate them, but I have already done so far too many times, and you just sail right along and repeatedly tell me we need these catastrophic and utterly ruinous radical left measures for their supposedly conservative and reactionary results. We have had this conversation before, and we are not going to have it again.

              The cities are grotesquely bloated because everyone needs to be close to power. In a freer society, our universities would be a hundredth or thousandth of there current size, and cities considerably smaller and more dispersed.

    • Arqiduka says:

      Sounds like an intentional leak made to serve as a threat.

      Regardless, Protests don’t work without elite backing, but they kill legitimacy. Communism fell from protests, and it started in ’56 in Hungary.

      • Pooch says:

        Communism fell into liberal democracy with its protests. I don’t think any Reactionary movement could follow that pattern.

        • Arqiduka says:

          Much less likely, but not to be entirely discounted.

          • Pooch says:

            Surrendering to liberal democracy was a very clear Schelling Point people could organize around very easily around to end Communism. It was the exit plan escape hatch that we just don’t have and can never be formed by “conservatism”.

            Our Schelling Point, if we ever get one, would necessarily need to be created by coup (legal or illegal).

            • Arqiduka says:

              All fair, but there is an alternative right now: one party rule of Singaporean and Chinese style. Countries at the periphery of globohomo may start to fall into that model, and the wave may eventually reach the west.

              Even if not though, discontent and a lack of an alternative makes for an ungovernable people, prone to fits of strikes and protetst, not for paucity. Well, sometimes it does, I don’t know what the trigger is.

              • Pooch says:

                All fair, but there is an alternative right now: one party rule of Singaporean and Chinese style.

                That would be great except those type of parties dont exist in the West. They need to be formed from the ground up. I agree that this is the potential solution. The path of the NSDAP. But instead of Socialism and racial purity spiraling, Capitalism and Christianity.

                • Arqiduka says:

                  Agree. The key missing steps are: 1) the western public being amenable to the idea of democracy through internal promotion in a party instead of mass elections (which the Chinese seem to be pushing as the concept of “organic democracy” or somesuch), and 2) the adoption of an explicit religion in the East to show the way. The east has gone through step one, but lacks step two, and the west has a candidate for step two, but is still far from step one.

                • Varna says:

                  Speaking of one-party rule.
                  Japan’s ruling party has been in power since 1955. Yet since they are “the right people in the right country”, Japan consistently ranks in the top of various democracy indexes, and everyone pretends this isn’t really happening.

        • Red says:

          Communism fell into liberal democracy with its protests. I don’t think any Reactionary movement could follow that pattern.

          Not even slightly true. The military stopped responding to orders. The USSR ordered up a military invasion of Poland and only 1/3 of the units ordered to the border showed up. The country was starving and so was the military.

          When the military stopped defending the government, they surrendered to Harvard.

          • Pooch says:

            The military stopped responding to orders to put down the protests and the protests were for liberal democracy. Most were non-violent. One was violent in Romania.

        • Varna says:

          Communism fell into Reaganism (regional interpretations of).

          This is the gulf between WE and EE. When EE “chose the western way” the implicit geopolitical and social contract was that they chose the Reaganist reality as seen on Alf, Back to the Future, and so on.

          (Even China chose their own Asian authoritarian version of the Reganist compromise, hence gay dating apps on the stock exchange but gay stuff must always be behind closed doors etc)

          Now they smell a bait and switch (“we never signed up for this”), as in the last years the change of course of the west has become outrageously explicit.

          Concerning protests, the protests that DID work, as in started a slow avalanche, are the early 1980s Solidarnost ones in Poland, which are being mirrored today in a sense by the trucker freedom convoys.

          • Mister Grumpus says:

            “Concerning protests, the protests that DID work, as in started a slow avalanche, are the early 1980s Solidarnost ones in Poland, which are being mirrored today in a sense by the trucker freedom convoys.”

            Excellent parallel, or at least it feels smart to me.

            If you have a favorite accounts of those days, please share it with us here.

            Surely most of the guys at the shipyard strike didn’t think of themselves as fighting communism itself, even though that’s where it ultimately went.

            And yet, surely a few of the people involved most certainly did understand themselves to be taking on and attempting to humiliate all of European communism, and were acting and supported accordingly. But who and by whom and how?

    • Doom says:

      I hear this a lot – “protesting doesn’t work for the right wing” and it seems to be mostly true, but why?

      The left is the side of “tear down the existing structure”. They generally speaking have nothing much to lose. Therefore they’re a desperate opponent; oppose at your peril.

      The right is “The structure is good and we should maintain it”.

      This analogy is average at best, but consider it from a workplace perspective. The employee is the left, the owner the right.

      The employee has nothing invested in the company. They can protest and the costs of loss are relatively low – their job? They can get another. An OWNER can not protest to his workers. (eg, I DEMAND you work more for the same pay. That will just trigger a protest from them).

      However, they’re trying to frame the Canadian protest as “right wing”. It’s not. They’re against the power structure; they want the structure to change. It’s a left wing protest. The Canadian government is to the right of the protesters in that regard.

      The difference is that the truckers hold power in the real world. They can stop working and everything will fall apart.

      In summary (rambling), left wing protest is demanding power structures change, right wing protests are demands for reinstatement of previous power (thus ineffective, if you have to demand your power back, it’s gone).

      Canadian government surely understands this and is rightly terrified. You have people with actual power exercising an effective left wing tactic.

      • Pete says:

        Because a “protest” is a fake astroturfed movement to give elected officials cover to do something that they ALREADY planned to do.

        In 2020, the government wanted to cause chaos to get rid of Trump, let black criminals out of jail, defund the police, and pass laws to make it impossible to arrest black criminals. The BLM riots merely gave them cover to do these things, so they could look at the cameras and say regretfully that the will of the people obviously compels us to do all of these things.

        Since the Canadian government does not want to relax vaccine restrictions and other Covid restrictions, this protest has no elite backing.

        • Pooch says:

          This is a great summation.

          In terms of the American Revolution, it was a group of elites (the Whigs) who wanted to already overthrow the King. Protests against tea taxation or whatever the hell else just gave them cover to do what they already had wanted to do.

    • Kunning Drueger says:

      The Honkening is neither right wing, nor is it Reactionary. There is no right wing in Canada, there’s the Left, the left behind, and the uninvolved. This protest started with the uninvolved, and has migrated into the left behind. I think Arqui is correct, they’re hoping the announcement gets the Canadian to fall back into their subservient base state. It may or may not work. But the Truckers aren’t demanding a king, or even an end to the Trudeau regime, not initially. The demand was a repeal of the draconian mandates. What they didn’t seem to realize is that a repeal is seen as an existential threat by the regime. They don’t need to do anything but sit and wait (ie, protest).

      If the regime busts up the protest and locks up participants, they literally create an underground opposition with little to lose as well as wrecking their domestic supply chains.

      If they acquiesce to the truckers, the leftists will magically appear in the handout line, having supported the truckers from the very start.

      The best outcome for the regime is the truckers say “soorrry” and go home. It’s the only outcome that leave the status quo intact.

      • Pooch says:

        The Honkening is neither right wing, nor is it Reactionary.

        Absolutely false. The left has full control of the government thus the government enacting vaccine mandates is the left doing leftism. Any opposition to the mandates or anything the government does is reactionary.

        It may or may not work.

        We know it won’t work.

        If the regime busts up the protest and locks up participants, they literally create an underground opposition with little to lose as well as wrecking their domestic supply chains.

        It will do nothing of the sort. The protest is a small minority of total truckers in Canada not an organized strike of the entire trucker workforce.

        • Kunning Drueger says:

          The Honkening is objectively a protest, and it isn’t explicitly right wing. Is there a list of demands or charter or anything released by the truckers we can consult to objectively declare the political skew of the group? Maybe I missed it.

          Further, just because the regime is left wing, this doesn’t automatically make any opposition to the regime right wing. If BLM starts protesting against the Biden regime, they don’t suddenly become a right wing movement. It may be reactionary in nature, but it is not Reactionary by any definition… unless they have recently started demanding a Canadian monarchy. Again, maybe I missed it.

          We don’t know anything, objectively, about the outcome of the situation, as it is ongoing. We can definitely expect bad things to happen to the truckers, but it is also reasonable to expect bad things for the regime. As I said, unless the truckers apologize, vacate completely, and go back to work while repaying the government for lost funds, there’s no way the Trudeau regime comes out of this unscathed.

          This is a center left reaction to hard left policies. As such, it could totally work out for them. Trudeau could step down, the mandates could be rolled back, and Canada could continue skipping towards perdition, just as it was prior to Coronahoax, and it would be accurate to say it was a success. Because this is left on left political action.

          If the amount of truckers is so small, and the effect so negligible, why the response to date by Trudeau? Why did he flee the capitol and demand they stop?

          It doesn’t matter to us, in the end. If the left wants to fuck up the left, let them fight.

          • jim says:

            > Further, just because the regime is left wing, this doesn’t automatically make any opposition to the regime right wing. If BLM starts protesting against the Biden regime, they don’t suddenly become a right wing movement.

            It does when the regime calls you Nazi racists.

            Indeed this is pretty much the origin of all our recent recruits. Noticing what may not noticed got them deemed all that stuff, then they noticed that the Nazis were leftists also, and the real right is throne, altar, and freehold.

            The King is appointed by God. The will of God is interpreted by the Church and the communion of the Saints, and the King creates and enforces law that he considers gives effect to the will of God.

          • Pooch says:

            The Honkening is objectively a protest, and it isn’t explicitly right wing. Is there a list of demands or charter or anything released by the truckers we can consult to objectively declare the political skew of the group? Maybe I missed it.

            As Jim stated above, when the Cathedral calls you nazis and racists you know what side you’re on. Yes there is a list of explicit demands. The protestors want a roll-back of leftism (the mandates). This is the definition of Reaction. Jim and just about everyone here want a roll-back of leftism to the 17th century, thus Neo-Reaction.

            We don’t know anything, objectively, about the outcome of the situation, as it is ongoing. We can definitely expect bad things to happen to the truckers, but it is also reasonable to expect bad things for the regime.

            Left-wing revolutionary tactics (like protesting) have been tried for centuries by reactionaries with little to no success. They don’t work because it’s an inversion of the entropic process. The genie doesn’t go back in the bottle once it’s out. There’s no reason to believe this time in Ottawa will be any different.

            This is a center left reaction to hard left policies.

            As commented elsewhere, not the center left vs hard left. It’s the middle and working class (who have no representation in government) reaction to the hard left policies of the hard left government.

            • Pooch says:

              The middle and working class would be the base of the organized right-wing if it even existed in Canada, but it doesn’t.

            • Goering says:

              The Nazis did a lot of damage to the Cathedral.

              Rest In Power.

              • jim says:

                Two left factions fighting it out.

                Happens all the time, and always does a lot of damage, to everyone including the left, the more violent the battle gets, the greater the damage.

              • The Cominator says:

                The only thing positive they accomplished is that by forcing the Soviet Union to fight a total war it made Stalin’s move away from insanity prettymuch impossible to reverse.

          • Pete says:

            “just because the regime is left wing, this doesn’t automatically make any opposition to the regime right wing. If BLM starts protesting against the Biden regime, they don’t suddenly become a right wing movement.”

            That’s not how this works. When the government and the protesters are both left wing, then it’s not a real protest. The “protesters” are merely rioting to intimidate the normies into going along with what the government wants to do.

            You know it’s a fake protest when the police do not attack the protesters and kneel to them instead:

            You know it was a real protest when all the protesters go to jail without trial and are tortured in solitary confinement for years (Jan 6th protesters).

            • Doom says:

              The government in power cannot be left wing.

              They are automatically the right – they want to “conserve” their current structure.

              All protests against the power structure are left wing, therefore, the protesters are left wing.

              The left/ right distinction is, in todays language, an adhominem attack, like calling people who don’t agree with you fascists or Nazis. (Recent hilarious example, they’ve been calling Russell Brand right wing because he was on Rogan. )

              Alternatively, it’s a lazy linguistic way to categorise certain political thoughts, ie leftism. Jims commenters for example use that as an umbrella term to describe a certain sets of beliefs about the world, eg, people interested in identity politics, or certain types of law that relate to personal freedoms, affirmative action etc.

              (I used to get into all kinds of trouble on Twitter arguing with people about Nazis “it’s not 1930 in Germany and these people aren’t interested in a Germany first welfare state, therefore not Nazis”. The answer is always “but theyre racist and Nazis are racist”; again, laziness in language. Nazism was left, it was a revolution. )

              “Left/right” is your opinion on the *current power structure*. It’s a relative term.

              You like it and want to keep it? Right.
              Dislike it and to destroy or reform? Left.

              Eg, marriage in most Western countries.
              If you’re FOR changing the law, someone who likes the current law will call you right wing or conservative. But that isn’t the truth, since you’re opposing the mandate of the king. (If you both want to change the law, even if its in different directions, you’re both left wing on that issue. )

              Why is “right wing” used as an insult? Because, generally speaking, people are against power structures due to them being tyrannical or unfair. “Left” ideas are traditionally speaking “fairness” ideas, which humans are heavily cognitively biased towards.They would call you “right wing” as a way to imply your opinion is evil, since your idea is on the side of perceived unfairness/ tyranny.

              Our ideas on things are not the actual law, we end up being the leftists.
              Cthulhu does always swim left, because there are always people that don’t like how things are currently managed.

              The issue with “Leftists” is that they pretend that majority of people and the power structure holds political opinions roughly equivalent to the US in the mid 18th century. They’re agitating to move laws even further away from that political narrative.
              And their arguments are effective since they point out “inequity” in outcomes, which are easily reframed rhetorically as “unfair”.

              I would categorise “leftists” today as, basically, authoritarians who understand that agitating against a perceived, albeit now imaginary, tyranny will make them appear to be “good”, and someone who thus deserves a higher position in the social hierarchy (which fits nicely into the view of holiness spiralling/ signalling). AOC wants to be a 1%er, but calls 1%ers evil? Top kek.

              I mean, arguably they are left, they’re left of nature. “It’s not fair that people who have no brain function aren’t able to afford superyachts, lets change that!”

              This is a great way to mess with regular people, explain this distinction to them. If you’re in conversation with someone and they call you right wing, simply say “No, I want to CHANGE the law/ power structure, not keep it. If you like the current law, you are the one on the right”.

              • jim says:

                > The government in power cannot be left wing.

                > They are automatically the right – they want to “conserve” their current structure.

                No they don’t. They are are revolutionary regime and have been ever since 1820

                They do not want to conserve Chesterton’s fence, which is what matters.

                • Doom says:

                  >No they don’t.
                  They don’t want to remain in power and maintain their control systems?

                  >They are are revolutionary regime and have been ever since 1820

                  Yeah, I address this in my comment – they’re revolutionaries against a power structure that has no power/ no longer really exists. They may as well be revolutionaries against Darth Vader.

                  It’s the right wing wearing a left wing skin suit.

                  I’m not arguing for or against any particular political position, I’m simply for the accurate use of language. Subversion of language leads to limited modes of thought.

                  Regarding Chestertons fence – at the current rate, in 30 years “no fault divorce” will be the proverbial fence. And the worst part is that they *have a reasoning that’s easy to understand*.

                • jim says:

                  > > No they don’t.

                  > They don’t want to remain in power and maintain their control systems?

                  They want to remain in power, but they ignore and neglect their control systems. They treat their control systems as plunder, they assume they are just spontaneously there. They inherited them from a reasonably functional republic, and with neglect and abuse, their control systems are falling apart.

                  They want to immanentize the eschaton, and when the eschaton arrives, their control systems will be unnecessary and irrelevant. Observe what they are doing to the police, the military, tax collection, and to the courts.

                • The Cominator says:

                  I think you are confusing cuckservatism the preservation (or only glacial change) from the immediate status quo with being actually right wing.

                  The real right supports an order in line with the will of god(or gnon) and natural law.

                • Doom says:

                  >The real right supports an order in line with the will of god(or gnon) and natural law.

                  Yes, the rightful king is fact, the rightful king is gnon, is nature. I definitely concede that point.

                  What I’m arguing about is memes, parlance, etc. “The real right”, with “right wing” being a term roughly equivalent to “Satanist” in the 1980s, why would you identify as right wing?

                  If the church is insane, you do not identify as Satanist to oppose them; although the members of the church will definitely identify you as such to oppose your ideas.

                  “Left wing” and “Right wing” are not words that are equivalent to “good” and “evil”.

                  I’m proposing the counter use of memetic warfare. Stop saying you’re right wing because, actually, you violently oppose the current regime. If someone calls you right wing you say “but I don’t think Mark Zuckerberg should control what I say and think?”.

                  If Left wing = good, you want to meme that the protesters are left wing as hard as humanly possible.

                • jim says:

                  You want to destroy a useful word, in the hope that our meanings will prevail in the ensuing vacuum.

                  Leftism is entropy, rightism is order. That is true over the entire political spectrum from one end to the other.

                  An example of this was the Khmer Rouge. They had an academically endorsed theory, that you cannot let farmers farm as they wish on a flood plain, because each peasant’s uncoordinated ditching and diking decisions have major effects downstream.

                  Which sounds like being in favor of more order. In power they destroyed the existing ditches and dikes, and failed to produce anything to replace them. They were trying to command more order into existence, without any interest or capability to actually construct order. Similarly socialist planning, as for example price control in Venezuela.

                • Doom says:

                  >You want to destroy a useful word,

                  No, I want to reverse newspeak. Leftism means good and holy and just, rightism means totalitarian authoritarian murderer.

                  > in the hope that our meanings will prevail in the ensuing vacuum.

                  It’s meme warfare; take the enemies memes and use them against themselves. The meanings get lost when the words are subverted, ie, by saying you are right wing you automatically lose credibility.

                  The meanings you have have nothing to do with the left/right continuum. Your arguments are invalidated in the minds of the masses when associated with them being badspeak, wrongthink, whatever.

                  Why do you think the response to questioning *just specifically the Pfizer vaccine* is to call someone an anti-vaxxer? Only a moron would be against the smallpox vaccine, or measles, or rubella.

                  And yet, you cannot have this argument. It is circular “no, Im not anti vax, I believe in 99.9 percent of all vaccines just not this one”
                  “So you’re an anti-vaxxer?”

                  That’s how the memes work. They apply a negative connotation to your own self description if they can.

                  “I’m catholic” “So, you support paedophiles? Gross”.

                  >Leftism is entropy, rightism is order. That is true over the entire political spectrum from one end to the other.

                  I only partially agree with this. Leftism is, say, forced entropy of an existing ordered system. Leftism isn’t entropy period otherwise you could (and why wouldn’t you?) use the word “entropist” to describe Antifa. They want entropy until they’re in power, then, they want order. Thus, they move from left to right.

                  But to say “I am right wing” is to say, in this circle, “I see disorder and want to order it”, when, in the terms of the corporate media, it says “I want a new holocaust for brown people”. I understand that you mean the former when you say it.

                  But if you go on record saying, “I am right wing”, then it is used as evidence that you, in fact, want to holocaust non-white people. Which it isn’t, but that’s not how peoples brains work.

                  I don’t believe that calling the powers that be right wingers, and self declaring yourself to be left-wing, would have a negative effect on the spreading of your ideals. Most people cannot, will not, will NEVER understand the IQ problem. That’s not even the biggest problem we’re facing.

                  You need religious positions for normies to adopt. CNN is a right wing news network; they spread the message of King Harvard.

                  Right wing already means brown holocaust. And look at how many brown people die in Democrat, ie CNN run cities?? You have hard evidence of the connection.

                  >Which sounds like being in favor of more order.
                  Yes!! Excellent example. They were righting while wearing a leftist skin suit. “We’re revolutionaries against the tyranny of reasonable farming practice!!”

                  Also, and please do not take this as me accusing you of being irrational or dumb or whatever, I read in your responses the inevitability of offence – that I’m implying you’re a leftist, ie, your own enemy. No, you might be left wing politically relatively to the current power structures, but that doesn’t make you a “leftist”.

                  See how difficult the memes/newspeak make it? Orwell knew about this stuff.

                • jim says:

                  > > Which sounds like being in favor of more order.

                  > Yes!! Excellent example. They were righting while wearing a leftist skin suit.

                  Your definition makes the Khmer Rouge genocide a right wing genocide.

                  Which is silly. Turning words around does not help us. Rectification of names, attaching true meanings to words that correspond to real world differences works.

                  We cannot destroy enemy words because they are in power. They have been destroying our words, making it difficult to comprehend, difficult to think about, and impossible to speak about observable reality.

                  We need words that refer to truth. It is simply untrue, and utterly silly, to propose that the Khmer Rouge favored order, or that the Khmer Rouge autogenocide was the imposition of order.

                  Our weapons in meme warfare are true memes, words and images that point to and exemplify reality, not lies, and still less silly memes. Your meme is false and silly.

                • Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

                  There is some utility as a rhetorical trick for short-circuiting normies trained to think ‘leftwing’=’acceptable’, ‘rightwing’=’unacceptable’, but the problem is that this is ultimately conceding the frame of the game to that predominant treasonous faction, playing the game in it’s terms, when the real problem is that ‘word training’ in the first place. It is a frame that, however you try to twist it, ultimately cannot be twisted in ways you can count on to serve God, and very easily converges on ways that violate His law.

              • Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

                >They are automatically the right – they want to “conserve” their current structure.

                >All protests against the power structure are left wing, therefore, the protesters are left wing.

                That is one sense with which folk have defined left (and right). To say that whatever presently holds high status is ‘right wing’, and whatever seeks to usurp the status of what is incumbent is ‘left wing’. It is an abstract system level expression, nigh tautological even, meaning it may be applied to any time, place, or people in any context with little modification.

                Which also means it is largely toothless in terms of analytical power.

                Lack of reference to substantial effects on the object level means lack of ability to derive meaningful distinctions between the substantial effects of different power holders; that groups with different substantial effects may be put together, and groups with alike substantial effects may be placed apart; and the monkey who cannot tell such differences will pay a dear price for it.

                • Doom says:

                  >Which also means it is largely toothless in terms of analytical power.

                  It’s not a term that’s meant to have analytical power, it’s a description. An non political example of how using words to describe things incorrectly is the way the word “fat” is used to describe a body status and a macronutrient. Being fat is being low status, eating fat is therefore consuming low status?

                  That’s my point – the mainstream calls the protesters “right wing”, and you’re meant to consider that to mean “evil people that want to control you and take away your life and freedom” etc. The words have been corrupted and are being used incorrectly as a way to corral thought. Being “left wing” is being “good”.

                  They don’t even address any of the points the protesters make, they simply pigeon hole them in a box and try to make you think automatically, which largely works.

                  What I’m alluding to is that, if the main stream says “right wing protests”, the response to that should be “which power structure are they trying to maintain?”

                  Why would you self identify as right wing? Why would a person who *really* wants National Socialist policies implemented identify as a Nazi?

                  >Lack of reference to substantial effects on the object level means lack of ability to derive meaningful distinctions between the substantial effects of different power holders

                  Yessssss.. this. I have nothing to much add to this I just wanted to say I like it very much.
                  “Right wing protesters” – attempt to trick the monkeys who can’t tell the difference.

                • Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

                  >That’s my point – the mainstream calls the protesters “right wing”

                  The mainstream lies. The mainstream, in the year of our lord, 2022, is also radical frothing at the mouth gnostic leveling, in substantial terms. The radical frothing at the mouth gnostic levelers in power now, were also radical frothing at the mouth gnostic levelers before they took power, and no less radical frothing at the mouth levelers after they took it, either; ever more even more so, even. Such is the point i mean to make.

              • Doom says:

                >They want to remain in power, but they ignore and neglect their control systems.
                Agree. Where the guillotine recipients in france left or right wing? Louis XVI was a counter-revolutionary, see? Right-wing.

                Would you spare any CNN employee the guillotine, come the revolution?

                Neglecting control systems isn’t on the left/right spectrum.

                Bad king; left wing outnumbers the right.

                >Observe what they are doing to the police, the military, tax collection, and to the courts.

                They’re assuming divine right of kings, without also understanding divine responsibility.

                • jim says:

                  > Neglecting control systems isn’t on the left/right spectrum.

                  Control systems maintain homeostasis and order. They not only keep the powerful in power, they keep people from vandalizing your house.

                  Neglecting them is 100% leftism.

                • Doom says:

                  >Control systems maintain homeostasis and order.
                  Yes. We have a control system now, eg, the media apparatus. The conglomerate of massive corporations, amazon, google, meta.

                  They’re not neglecting that control system, they’re strengthening it, or at least, attempting to.

                  Meta’s “fact check”, Twitters “fact check”, all attempts to stop vandals.

                  We have an order, Jim, you just don’t like it because its unfair and tyrannical, and, in my estimation, you’re a decent and reasonable human being who doesn’t appear to want unnecessary human suffering or the longterm self destruction of the human species. If you were just a disagreeable, self serving asshole you’d play their game for maximum reward. Instead you are highly visibly against them.

                  >Neglecting them is 100% leftism
                  I would say, “actively trying to destroy them”. Just neglecting something is something else. Apathy? You neglect something that has no value to you. “Leftism” has a degree of actual antipathy.

                • jim says:

                  > > Control systems maintain homeostasis and order.

                  > Yes. We have a control system now, eg, the media apparatus

                  Is it maintaining homeostasis and order?

                  I don’t think so. It is herding the lemmings over a cliff.

                  It controls the populace, but it primarily controls to the controllers, resulting a positive feedback loop similar to what happens when you hold your microphone too close to the speakers.

                  And what then comes out of the speakers is noise.

                  A positive feedback loop is the opposite of homeostasis. This is the key difference between left and right. Rightist systems preserve, leftist systems create chaos, and they primarily create chaos within the left, within power.

                  The engineering meaning of a control system is a control system that applies negative feedback. You are using “control” in a way that destroys the meaning. Someone who has the shakes lacks control. He lacks control in a different way to someone whose grip is too weak, but he still lacks control. And the stronger his grip, the less his control.

                  This is the important and central difference between rightist systems of control and leftist systems of what you are calling “control” – leftists systems of control do not control in the sense of having an outcome that anyone intends. They are power exercised for loot and pleasure, without regard to the likely results.

                • Doom says:

                  >you’re a decent human being
                  Allow me to generalise that to pretty much anyone who reads this blog and doesn’t shill disingenuously against Jim. I’m not a sycophant and I do not like appeals to peoples good nature, I mean it in terms of Jims argument re: control systems, with Jimian thought being firmly against , eg, the Chicom control systems as opposed to a more naturalistic, less totalitarian order.

                • Doom says:

                  >Is it maintaining homeostasis and order?
                  Have people lost their livelihoods due to having an opinion opposing the order?

                  It maintains it *to a degree*. Is it sustainable? No, because its tyrannical and unreasonable.

                  >It controls the populace, but it primarily controls to the controllers, resulting a positive feedback loop similar to what happens when you hold your microphone too close to the speakers.

                  Bad king is still a king. Opposing the king is left wing.

                  > You are using “control” in a way that destroys the meaning.

                  If I operate a drone remote control having no idea what I’m doing and it crashes, I was still in control of the drone.

                  You are using “control” in a way that implies a prefix or an ethical standard.
                  (really, you said it – you mean it in an engineering sense). Maybe the prefixes and the full meaning is “sustainable and fair social engineering control”?

                  (if you under engineer the steering column of your car and it breaks vs if you let go of the wheel. Same outcome)

                  >Rightist systems preserve, leftist systems create chaos,

                  Are the billionaires/ media elite not trying to preserve their power, with us on the left of them trying to destroy it?

                  I’m not confused at all, either, about what you’re communicating, the words you use make perfect sense in the context.

                  But, again, as above – “right” implies “holocaust the brownies” in modern parlance, which I doubt you mean when you say it.

                  I don’t believe in “control what you say”, but they’re not wrong when they say words have power.

                • jim says:

                  > > Is it maintaining homeostasis and order?

                  > Have people lost their livelihoods due to having an opinion opposing the order?

                  Right now very large numbers of doctors and nurses have lost or are about to lose their livelihoods for having opinions opposing disorder.

                  Child protective services and the family courts are breaking up families. When a nine year old boy is abducted and sold to a couple of gays,that is mighty disorderly.

                  Families are order, state violence capriciously, unpredictably, and unexpectedly breaking up families is disorder.

                  Power is not order. Power can be used to create or destroy order, and it is now being used to destroy order.

                  Which is a difference your perverse and absurd language elides. Power is right now cutting its own arteries and bleeding out into the streets.

                  Keep this up and I am going to censor you for undermining the rectification of names.

                  > Are the billionaires/ media elite not trying to preserve their power

                  I see Zuckerberg cringing in fear. He is not trying to preserve his power over us, he is failing to resist other people appropriating his power over us for diverse and frequently conflicting purposes.

                  This does not make him a fellow good guy, but it does make him a fellow victim. The left devours the left, and it has devoured Zuckerberg.

              • Doom says:

                >Your definition makes the Khmer Rouge genocide a right wing genocide.

                I understand exactly why you would say this, but, missing what I mean.

                The Khmer had a left wing idea (smash this hierarchy and I will be in power) and had to commit genocide in order to ensure they gained power.

                When the genocide was complete, at that point they become “in power”. Any actions they take to maintain their power at this point is “right wing”, yes.

                >Turning words around does not help us.
                You label yourself right wing, which makes you a brown holocauster, a xenophobic science denier and all around bad dude.

                The word is perverted. It is now a lie. You do NOT support the current ruling class.

                >Rectification of names, attaching true meanings to words that correspond to real world differences works.

                That’s exactly what I want to do – attach true meanings to words. “Right wing” does not mean “xenophobia” or “mass murder”. It means “preserve current power structure”.

                >They have been destroying our words, making it difficult to comprehend, difficult to think about, and impossible to speak about observable reality.

                Yes, and this is exactly my point.. The word “right wing”, meaning “lets not knock down chestertons fence” has now come to mean “a person who opposes our perfect and just laws”.

                Perhaps, “Restorationist” would be a more apt description?

                > It is simply untrue, and utterly silly, to propose that the Khmer Rouge favored order, or that the Khmer Rouge autogenocide was the imposition of order.

                They favoured order as they saw it. Intelligent people, thinkers, as an example, they saw as a threat to implementation of their ruleset, so, genocide them.

                If you lack power, and you murder people you see as a threat to your power base, that’s purely “left”. You don’t kill the King if you support the King.

                >Our weapons in meme warfare are true memes, words and images that point to and exemplify reality, not lies, and still less silly memes. Your meme is false and silly.

                Wheres the lie? It is a true meme.
                Right wing means “to the right of the king”; its usage started in France and it literally means “people who wish to maintain the current order”

                I understand that *common usage* has perverted the term, but that’s the point, which you even agree with above (they took our words).

                As I said – their meme is that “if you’re right wing you want to holocaust non whites and you want to enact “the handmaids tale”.

                If you self identify as right wing, that’s the identity you take on.

                Merely point out who the real Kings are, and that supporting the king is right wing. That’s the meme. I don’t see the lie, although I of course see the dissonance in language.

                But that’s what makes a meme effective as you said, pointing to and exemplifying reality.

                • Wulfgar Thundercock III says:

                  This comment is the perfect refutation of absurd legalism. It is asymptotic with the platonic form of taking a concept to its logical absurdity. You never go full autism.

                • jim says:

                  > When the genocide was complete, at that point they become “in power”. Any actions they take to maintain their power at this point is “right wing”, yes.

                  The genocide was never completed.

                  The vast majority of the Khmer Rouge were tortured to death by the Khmer Rouge, leading to severe and extreme military incapacity. So the genocide was never completed, it just escalated and escalated to partial collapse, at which point the Vietnamese invaded. Had the Vietnamese not invaded, would likely have escalated to total collapse, as with Szechuan province, which only had about seven thousand people left alive when the Chinese Empire invaded.

                  The jab, the Democrats burning down their own cities, and the LA railway tracks prefigure Khmer Rouge Cambodia and Szechuan Province.

                  Leftism is not a rational self interested secure monarch. It is a fire that burns down everything, and eventually itself.

                  Your proposed meme models the left as what it wishes it was, rational, and acting in rational pursuit of rational objectives. This is absurd model, and highly flattering our enemies.

                  The final end goal of leftism is that everyone gets tortured to death for insufficient leftism, and when only one person, the leftmost, remains, he then commits suicide for failure to inflict infinite torture.

                  They hate us, they hate each other, and they hate themselves, and as we are seeing with the jab, are more dangerous to themselves and each other than they are to us.

                  > point out who the real Kings

                  We are suffering from Kinglessness.

                  A King has secure ownership over his kingship, so takes care of it as anyone takes care of his property.

                  Leftists do not have secure ownership of power, so just use it to burn everything down, including their own power. A King is a stationary bandit. We are afflicted with mobile bandits.

                • Kunning Drueger says:

                  Doom, you’re meme seeks to dictate reality, it doesn’t point to or reflect reality. I think your goal is good, inasmuch that we shouldn’t let the progressives dictate what means what where and when we have the opportunity and means to do so. This is why rectification of names is such an important tool for moderating discussion to effect productive argument. The error here is scope. I too hate the bastardization of language because it is so often used to make lies into common knowledge truth. But it is a silly hill to die on, because the left/right dichotomy is thus far universal for analysis; it works. Leftism and entropy are interchangeable, just as anti-racist is anti-white. Rightism is order, whether deployed or desired. The battlefield is metaphysical. Progressives are at war with GNON, we’re just in the way.

      • jim says:

        Observed behavior;

        Since many of the wildest and most over the top conspiracy theories have not only been confirmed, but getting right in the faces of normies, suddenly large numbers of normies are not being normie any more. Even my theoretically blue pilled friend who is always dropping superior holiness in people’s faces does not deny some conspiracy theories that I used to regard as ridiculously extreme. Dang me. I would have denied them in times past.

        Last survey, thirty percent of the American population rejected democracy. That used to be a completely over top position that no one ever spoke out loud except to be outrageous. And if thirty percent will tell some random surveyor whom he knows is doing enemy research, the actual number has to be far higher.

        When the inevitable happens, the response will be “Well, what can we do that is actually effective?”

        • Wulfgar Thundercock III says:

          At work a tranny was brought up and I replied to the effect that a decent society would have burned such a thing at the stake. The response was an instant rejection that just died off halfway through and ended with a half-hearted, “But we don’t do that here.” Crimestop is not stopping the way it used to. He did not feel obligated to do the necessary pieties to the demonic state religion anymore, except on quickly suppressed reflex. I told a man talking about his daughter’s school crush that women should not be picking their sexual partners, but their fathers should, and he quickly agreed. No one else even raised an objection. I mentioned in front of a police working security and a manager where I worked that the solution to California’s thief problem is dragging the offender out back, shooting him, and burying the body. The cop just did that shrug that people do when they want to say, “He is not wrong,” but cannot due to circumstances.

          The state religion is weak, it’s priests are fools and scum, and it cannot compel violence the way it used to. People sense that. What I would never have said a year ago can be said in public today.

    • The Cominator says:

      We’ll see Pooch. The cops have been ineffective so far and all it would take is a few trucks to jackknife themselves at key points into Ottawa…

      • Red says:

        It looks like the truckers are winning. They’re trying to negotiation with them now.

        • Pooch says:

          Got a link? I haven’t heard that about the Quebec protest.

          The Alberta blockade might be working but I wouldn’t label that a protest. That’s a blockade.

          • Red says:

            The Alberta blockade is the one that’s getting the negotiation.

            In Quebec they’re unable to stop fuel from getting to the truckers and they’ve resorted to threatening to take their kids away from them. Arrests don’t seem to be happening after they arrested that 80 years grandpa for honking. Horrible optics. Cops appear to be working against their masters with malicious compliance.

          • Red says:

            NEW: Trudeau Is Heckled on Parliament Floor As He Attempts To Respond To Opposition Calls To End The Mandates 1/2…


            • Arqiduka says:

              If you have a mainstream party coming out agianst the continuation of the mandates in that climate, I think its over. Better men would have resigned already, but no matter, its done.

            • jim says:

              The emperor has no clothes.

              When they jab everyone, everyone can see the jab is harmful. When everyone gets omicron, everyone can see it is not particularly harmful, and the jab does not protect against it.

              But so many in the elite have huge skeletons in their closet. They concealed the death data, they are still concealing it. They have to continue enforcing worship of the Covid Demon to conceal the extent of their human sacrifices to it.

              So abandoning worship of the Awesome and Mighty Demon in favor of Catastrophic Anthropogenic Climate Change or decolonization of the Americas or some such is not really an option. If they allow impiety, too much dirt will fly.

              But if they continue with the faith, everyone must be sacrificed to the Demon. And the elite, like the masses, is starting to realize what path they are on.

              • Mister Grumpus says:

                This loops me right back to where I was in 2016-17, but times a thousand and post-2020 jaded, so I can see how naive and wrong I’d been.

                They need a way out, off the crazy train. But who is left to make a deal with? Where are the “patriots in control” who can accept their secret surrender and spirit them off the island?

                I was Qtarding because I wanted to believe there was some counter-faction, somewhere, who they could call on burner phones and figure something out. But post 2020, who can one even imagine that to be?

                Grab a few bitcoin and flee to somewhere else with nukes, like Russia or China, like little Xi in his cave during the Cultural Revolution? Or no? Is that trading one desperate delusion for another, from Qanon straight to Vlad-anon and Xi-anon? Probably.

                Where the hell else can they go? Who can they confess to?

                Mars is taking too long.

                Who can will himself to power and give his Secret Speech now, and where and to whom? No auditorium is big enough.

                Surely many Khmer Rouge guys knew where things were going, and wanted off the tiger as well, but by then it was too late and there was no one left to make plans with who wouldn’t rat them out.

                • Mister Grumpus says:

                  If you’re IQ170 then you’re already ahead of me by definition, but still, I can’t help but remind you that this is yet another reason we so desperately need a “safe”/Jimmish Social Network.

                  It’s not just for us. It’s also for them.

                  The smart fraction (or “honest fraction”?) inside the State need a way out too. They need some means just to discover that they’re not alone, and that they’re worried about the same things.

                  The tighter the anonymity and the smarter the moderation system — as Jim has described here in both computer science and game theory language — the more they can believe that “the posts at the top” represent reality, and therefore act on what they learn there.

                  Without this, someone could be the Secretary of Whatever in DC, or the Provost of Harvard in Cambridge, and have no way to hear from reality outside. No “science” to trust, no one to confide in, and no one to read, who isn’t a terrorized apparachik himself, and therefore dangerous to be honest with.

                  The Chinese are smarter about this. The more total the state, the more perfect the censorship must be — if only to keep the censors themselves out of trouble with each other for thoughtcrime/knowledgecrime — but it’s exactly that perverted echo-chamber isolation from reality that leads to all of Peking getting their heads chopped off or starving to death every couple centuries. “But we were doing everything right!”

                  (Whites are always turning coats and regrouping under different banners. Maybe this “honesty defection” that I’m trying to understand and prescribe here is the good/survival side of that coin.)

                  Khrushchev can’t take power and give his Secret Speech anymore:

                  “OK guys, Uncle Joe is dead, I’m in charge now, and we’re not doing this crazy shit anymore. You fucking heard me, and you see everyone else in here hearing me. Look around this room. Everyone who matters is here. This is the page we’re on starting now.”

                  There’s just too many apparachiks now, too spread out, to give that speech in person behind locked doors after patting everyone down for notebooks, pencils and tape recorders.

                  The next Secret Speech will have to “bubble up” somehow, like a dream from the deep.

                  “What sudden change? Everyone’s always felt this way.”

        • Karl says:

          Nah, this cannot be won by negotiation

          • Red says:

            Attempts at negotiation is often a prelude to surrender. Saving face if you will.

            • Wulfgar Thundercock III says:

              You ask for blatantly unreasonable demands in your demand for surrender, then you negotiate, then it was a reasonable settlement that can be respected. There was no craven surrender, so respect for the losing side can still be maintained. It is a hallmark of negotiation. Trudeau is a politically dead man walking. He fled, showing weakness; the stupid women who voted for him and put him over the top–a opportunity for an always timely reminder that women make terrible sexual choices and have ridiculously bad instincts for real male status–will despise him for it.

              • Kunning Drueger says:

                This is why I stated that the Trudeau regime cannot come through this unscathed, at least, not without some completely uncharacteristic violence escalation, like mass beatings + arrests, channeling his biological father. I wouldn’t put it past this timeline for Trudeau to become a North American Stalin, but the probability of that strains credulity.

                Wulf, am I completely off base in saying this is the moderate left rebelling against the hard left? I feel like it’s obvious, given the fact that Canada functionally has no Right Wing.

                • Pooch says:

                  Wulf, am I completely off base in saying this is the moderate left rebelling against the hard left?

                  Yes completely off base. It’s the middle and working class of Canada, who have no or very little representation in government, protesting the hard left policies of the hard left government of Canada.

                • Mister Grumpus says:

                  It’s “Castreau”.

                • Kunning Drueger says:

                  I’ve read your analysis, Pooch. It rings hollow. Those middle- and working-class participants in the protest are still leftists, just not left enough. I do not agree that this suddenly makes them right wing, just right of Left. Again, if they start making right wing demands, then I’m off base. If they just want a return to normalcy, they are NPCs with reservations about the speed of the spiral, not the spiral itself. More to the point, I wasn’t asking you.

                • Herman says:

                  @Kunning Drueger

                  It’s a matter of perspective.

                  From the view of cathedral everyone who is against the current holiness spiral is NAZI HITLER HITLER.

                • The Cominator says:

                  “I’ve read your analysis, Pooch. It rings hollow. Those middle- and working-class participants in the protest are still leftists, just not left enough. ”

                  Leftist by what standard, they aren’t hardcore reactionaries like myself but they are generally the kind of people who in America would have voted for Trump so I’m going to say they aren’t leftist.

                • Kunning Drueger says:

                  Then that is the point of contention in my assertion. Yes, there are definitely potential good monarchists, defenders of patriarchy, willing servants of GNON in the ranks of the truckers. But based on observation of Canadian status quo prior to the Honk and anecdotal evidence from some Canadian associates, the truckers don’t want to dismantle parliamentary government and institute a monarchy, so not Reactionary. They want to go back to when liberals controlled everything but didn’t mandate jabs or punish dissenters quite so severely.

                  Best bet is to wait and see what results. I don’t think the Honkening was a controlled opposition operation meant to wrest control from the hard left, but it very well could do that. It could also be the birth of a hardcore Canadian far right underground, particularly if it get brutally suppressed and mercilessly punished.

                • jim says:

                  > They want to go back to when liberals controlled everything but didn’t mandate jabs or punish dissenters quite so severely.

                  Everyone wants a Republic, because they want the virtuous elite that makes a Republic possible.

                  But a Republic does not produce a virtuous elite. A virtuous elite produces a Republic.

    • pyrrhus says:

      No sign of any crackdown yet…

  10. I find it fascinating that the whole world started going to hell the moment Scary Orange Man was no longer in power. (/sarc)

    • notglowing says:

      Despite his ultimate failure, things really were much better when he was around. No more good times.

  11. Today's Good News says:

    OT dopamine hit

    Scroll past worthless progtext to the graph at the bottom. Percent of Americans saying democracy is “bad”.

    • Mayflower Sperg says:

      People are slowly figuring out that “democracy” means “gay sex and child trannies”.

      • Doom says:

        This website has some hilarious gold

        I wish everyone who wrote an article criticising perceived police heavy-handedness was forced to be an actual cop.

        Someone should operant condition Omar Fateh by flashing a red light then slapping him in the head, then criticise him really really really hard when he inevitably can’t approach an intersection at a reasonable speed.

  12. Arakawa says:

    Couple more signs of Ottawa cops being in a ‘soft mutiny’ against police leadership:

    – Municipal police twitter account posts a link to Bearhug group’s page with instructions for safe and orderly protest participation. Link taken down a few hours later when police leadership notices.

    – Police leadership announces anyone with a jerrycan of fuel will be stopped from approaching the protests, to prevent refueling. Protesters start walking back and forth in large numbers with jerrycans of water and cops say “we can’t stop people from carrying water in jerrycans”.

    Ironically these are collected and reported by bluechecks screaming on Twitter. Are the bluechecks genuinely losing their minds because their side is losing, or is there a genius plan to paint the police as complicit in ‘insurrection’ and have some other force show up to stab them in the face, hence hivemind amplifies all signs of police being complicit?

    • Mike in Boston says:

      From here:

      On Monday, Ottawa police Chief Peter Sloly asked the mayor to request 1,800 additional police and civilian personnel for immediate use until the end of the demonstration in the city.

      That would nearly double the existing resources of the entire Ottawa Police Service, which has 2,100 police and civilian members.

      Watson said he would make the request of the Ontario and federal governments.

      Ontario Premier Doug Ford said Sunday the province has given Ottawa everything the municipality has requested, and will continue to do so.

      In Novocherkassk, the communist government brought in troops from far away who would have no qualms about firing on locals. Same energy.

    • pyrrhus says:

      Rumor in Canada is that a large number of Ottawa cops have submitted resignations from the force…

  13. pyrrhus says:

    Posting this though many have probably seen these grisly stats from the military health data base…

    • jim says:

      When such information has to be leaked by whistleblowers, disregard all official statistics. If anything true appears in them, it is the result of careless oversight.

      It has been obvious for some time that there is something very wrong with the excess death statistics.

      Israel was regularly and routinely publishing its death statistics in Euro Momo. I was watching with interest when it plunged head first fast into mass forced vaccination – and it suddenly stopped publishing its death statistics. Since then, world wide, they have all to a greater or lesser extent vanished, or show the tell tale signs of obvious cooking.

      The covidians hate us and know they are killing us. Since they know what they are doing, they likely intend to kill us all.

  14. Leon says:

    How much does the average American actually have in terms of debt, savings, checking, retirement, etc.? I have been trying to look up the numbers but I don’t believe the numbers I have found. Also, how does it correlate in terms of age? I know the middle class is poorer than before and dying off but I am curious as to what the true numbers are. Plus, I want to know where I compare.

    • Kunning Drueger says:

      Not an answer to your question, but the framing of your inquiry made me realize that this blog has destroyed my subconscious faith in collected data. When I first started encountering table data in my teens, I just assumed that if it was in a book, than it was correct. Being a typical leftist layabout after highschool, I assumed it was all meaningless. Getting red pilled then going to university imbued me with the solid belief that there is truth in data, you just had to have the right sources and guides. Going through a degree program while mentoring other scholars and slowly becoming Jimpilled, I was forced to accept that peer reviewed studies are artifacts of slipshod grad students cobbling together cooked books to skew towards whatever gave them status. I now have faith in no data, it all seems like propaganda based on questionable data collection. I lack the time or capacity to figure things out that don’t fall squarely within my narrow range of “expertise.” This is one thing I hope a future monarchy can figure out: some way to collect and order facts, sources, analysis, and editorial into a body of information that can be used productively. The Humanities is one of the saddest failings of liberal arts education, and it didn’t have to be, there’s just so much power in being able to confidently assert “the experts agree/science says/everyone knows/etc.” Still, there’s a melancholic certainty in relying solely on my own lying eyes, my gut, and a small group of men I trust.

    • Mike in Boston says:

      The largest public dataset I know of is from the Federal Reserve’s 2019 survey of consumer finances. Mind you, it’s a survey, so take it with as many grains of salt as you see fit.

      As far as retirement is concerned, one website put a handy calculator and summary online.

  15. Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

    ‘US officials say Russian attack could happen any moment now.’

    Likelyhood of GAE false-flag going up.

    • jim says:

      The deep state definitely does not want war with Russia or China.

      But the horse they rode in on has other ideas.

      • Kunning Drueger says:

        I think the radical wing of the State Department does, maybe some other factions in other branches as well. Maybe the Coronatarians have lost faith in the Mighty Covid Demon and are falling back on Ares.

  16. Fred says:

    (Mostly offtopic): I was reading this article and I saw:

    “Workers disinfect packed vegetables at a residential area under quarantine in Xi’an, China, on December 25, 2021.”

    I was wondering: how much of this dumb shit is sincere, and how much is theatre for foreign consumption (“Look Mavis! They’re even disinfecting their vegetables!”) They can’t possibly be doing this out of any sincere concern about the virus, surely?

  17. Red says:

    Looks like they’ve settled on Gerrymandering Red and Blue states to insane levels to ensure the Dems don’t lose the house. Rigging the 2022 election is progress.

    • Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

      Which is interesting since gerrymandering is ordinarily a republican tactic (ie, ultimately meaningless), while democlaps would focus on demographic replacement, which assures final victory.

      A recent space of news channel docudramas about ‘the evils of voter suppressing gerrymandering’ presages the establishment’s intention of doing a lot of gerrymandering, but this would imply that ‘the establishment’ as such has a lot shorter time horizons now, and cannot tolerate any devalidations at all, even momentary symbolic ones.

      • Pete says:

        The darkification of the Left might mean that they have lost all subtlety.

        Due to their constant immature rage they absolutely refuse to take an L under any circumstances, even a temporary one. Even if their “fix” is obvious, ham-handed, and ends up turning more people against them.

    • The Cominator says:

      I’ve heard the only place where this happened really badly that the Republicans could have stopped it is Pennsylvania.

    • Pooch says:

      Predictit has Republicans 84% favored to win the house and its basically all normies who bet on that site. I would be shocked if the GOP doesn’t win the house as things stand now.

      • jim says:

        I will be shocked if they win the house. Elections are over, voting is over.

        Some of my commenters disagree. I have a 0.0025 bitcoin bet with Arqiduka on the question.

        • Arqiduka says:

          Which you can probably fully insure against by going on Predictit lol

        • The Cominator says:

          Id be shocked if they win the Senate but the house…

        • Aidan says:

          For House races, the voting and counting are all locally controlled. The left simply does not have the institutional power to flip solidly red districts to blue. Districts with significant imported darkies, they can commit fraud in. My prediction is a shockingly blue Senate and a shockingly red house. Now that they are talking about gerrymandering, they are going to explain this vast and startling discrepancy by saying that the GOP benefits from districting to control the house, and they will attempt to destroy the party via that route.

          • Red says:

            You’re missed my point. Once they have enough Dem areas magically connected up to a Red area they turn on the printing press and they can print their way to victory.

            They’ll explain the wins as Gerrymandering rather than voter fraud and the GOP will go along with the cover story, as usual.

          • jim says:

            A black locally controlled district, created by the mass importation of blacks from Africa, has been created in every federal electorate.

            Therefore the left has the power to flip every federal electorate.

            • Aidan says:

              And it sure looked in 2020 like the apparatus that teaches and commands them to print fakes and count them only existed in a handful of districts in swing states. I say the left is losing its ability to cooperate. I expect it is too hard for them to broaden the conspiracy and win the House.

              • The Cominator says:

                I’m with Aidan here based on what they did in 2020, there is only a few precincts in very very corrupt cities they can do this shit in on the scale they need to. Unfortunately that is enough to win the Senate and the Presidency.

                • jim says:

                  We shall see.

                  I observe them bombing every federal electorate with enemy invaders each localized in a particular district. This is a war capability in the hands of an enemy.

                  It has become apparent that that the frail and elderly smart fraction of our enemies want normality. And normality requires a group of timid cuckservatives to provide an excuse for not legislatively and presidentially implementing the desires of the more radical left, such as “build it back better”, which would utterly destroy the economy in three or four years.

                  But I doubt they can restrain the horse they rode in on from acting to use the capability that they have created.

                • Pooch says:

                  But I doubt they can restrain the horse they rode in on from acting to use the capability that they have created.

                  Was restrained in VA when Youngkin won (although a blowout landslide win somehow turned into a measly 2 pt victory).

                  Which leads me to ask who is in charge of the vote rigging? The blacks? Why didn’t they print unlimited votes in Richmond and Newport News? Seems to me like the blacks doing the vote rigging on the ground are just taking orders from the elites.

                  Well we know what the elites are thinking by just reading the New York Times.

                  In 2020, we were hearing non-stop that democracy itself was at stake and Trump cannot win under any circumstance, will not win under any circumstance. In hindsight, the elites were telling us they were willing to do anything and everything to prevent a Trump win including unlimited ballot fraud on a scale not seen before. To them, another Trump term was an existential crisis.

                  Not hearing that this time around for the midterms (although definitely hearing it for 2024 if/when Trump runs).

                • jim says:

                  > Not hearing that this time around for the midterms (although definitely hearing it for 2024 if/when Trump runs).

                  The geriatic smart fraction is theoretically in charge and is putting on the brakes hard.

                  They want a return to normality. But normality is not, in fact returning.

                  They want a cuckservative House so that they can blame the Republicans for failure to indulge the left’s more insane desires. I don’t think they are likely to get what they want unless they start sending the radical left to the Pacific for long distance swimming lessons.

                • Wulfgar Thundercock III says:

                  I think a very important difference between the past and the present is that the radical leftists of the past were a lot smarter. Communism Barbie is the best the far left has to offer these days. I do not see them succeeding in any endeavor that requires cooperation when opposed by the smarter and less radical left establishment.

                • Pooch says:

                  They want a return to normality. But normality is not, in fact returning.

                  Normality has already returned with normality being the slow decline into South Africa.

                • jim says:


                • Pooch says:

                  2020 was a sudden energetic burst of accelerated revolutionary leftism. With Trump gone, 2021 and 2022 so far have been a return to the speed limit.

                • jim says:

                  If you are not seeing high level revolutionary energy, it is because they are getting their way.

                  Illegal immigration is not going at the old speed, and “build it back better” is Venezuela.

                  “build it back better” is not the speed limit. Neither is worship of the Awesome and Mighty Covid Demon.

                  Neither of these are being implemented at full speed. The geriatric elite is quietly slowing them down. But then accellerated revolutionary leftism was not being implemented under Trump either. It was burning down cities, destroying Churches (it is still destroying Churches), but it was not being implemented at the state level.

                  What is on the table right now is not burning down Kenosha, but burning down America. Trump was somewhat effectual at slowing legal and illegal immigration (I really love what he did with H1Bs, where he proceeded to arrange that laws theoretically in force, were actually enforced).

                  Now we have a gigantic flood of illegal immigration, where the government flies in hordes of illegals on the taxpayer dime to smalltown white America. That is being implemented at high speed, and if the left has not knocked off Biden yet, it is because he keeps promising them “build it back better”, the same unstable balancing act the Girondists and the Kadets tried.

                  And because his handlers are in in fact stalling, the left is becoming impatient.

                  I did not expect him to survive this long. But the left is getting less and less willing to wait for the geriatric left to die.

                • Kunning Drueger says:

                  From my experience, the young left has the energy and style, and the old left has the connections and security details. Believing that the Clintons have people whacked is accepting that they possess the loyalty, earned or stolen or bought, of those capable. This could mean trained kill teams just as easily as disposable assassins, but probably both, as the times change but the body count grows. My point is that if AOC or her handlers wanted someone dead, they’d have to plant a pack of low IQ criminals somewhere in the target’s daily routine. If the Clintons want someone dead, they have someone make a phone call.

                  Once the geriatric left finally exits the scene, a lot of intellectual and institutional inertia and capacity will go with them. While this means things will get scarier, like a mad elephant crashing around a subdivision, it also means we will be less threatened by adders in our underwear.

                • Aidan says:

                  Do they have trained kill teams? Seth Rich looked like a sloppy job. The official story is that it was a botched robbery, but they didn’t even bother to take his wallet. Epstein wasn’t a master assassination either; they turned the security cameras off for an hour and left the doors open for any thug to walk in and strangle him.

                • Wulfgar Thundercock III says:

                  I do not know how well they are trained, but if I was going to kill someone for betraying me, I would want it known. The cover up being done badly is an implicit threat. Just like the guy who committed suicide by shooting himself in the back of his head with a shotgun. You could have people who are very well trained, and they might still leave clues as to what actually happened. The reason that Epstein and Rich were killed so obviously is a feature, not a bug.

                • Red says:

                  Epstein’s killing was sloppy and rushed as they thought Trump might Pump Epstein for information and caused a significant loss of legitimacy for the ruling class. Rich’s killing was SOP but it attracted a lot more attention than it would have in the past.

                  More important murders that are rarely spoken of is the journalist who got the goods on Mueller who suddenly died of “natural causes”. If you watch the hearings with Mueller he was terrified of something and I think it was her murder of the evidence she gathered having been passed on to Republicans.


      • Red says:

        Interesting, sounds like betting on the Democrats might result in some nice winnings.

        • Pooch says:

          I think R’s are 74% or something to win both chambers. If you are absolutely convinced that the Dems will steal you could likely make a lot of money on the betting sites if you can find a book to take big bets.

  18. The Cominator says:

    One of the most disturbing pieces of evidence yet the vax is deadly slow acting poison, a couple of BUD/S students complete the hell week portion of SEAL training successfully… then afterwords while recovering from the extreme physical stress and sleep deprivation they then die.

    • Red says:

      It’s bad effect from the wu flu spike protean in general. My brother is working through minor heart damage from a bad case of Omicron. Those idiots who took multiple doses of spike proteins are going to be dropping like flies in the coming years.

      • The Cominator says:

        The spike proteins do not generally reach the blood in the cases of the regular virus. Sorry it did do so in your brothers case.

        • Red says:

          He’ll recover. All of the other people I’ve heard of who have a bad case of COVID do, as long as they’re not obese or diabetic.

  19. The Cominator says:

    The truckers are getting more establishment support than I would have thought…

    • Anon says:

      Lotsa people are waking up these days.

      • ten says:

        Probably not. Probably the rearguard trying to stop the machine from steaming over the brink.

        Or folk activism, “waking up”, doing the rearguards job, maybe. Which would be nice.

        But there are further movements of the rearguard trying to shape things up to boil slower, so i count this among them.

        • Kunning Drueger says:

          I think there’s a lot more gray than any of us here believed. The 2020 Steal, Unrest, and Hoax were so massive that people participating, buying into it, or just accepting it made it seem like there was a dramatic polarity with monocultures on each side. It could be that so much happened so quickly that people just struggled through in a daze. Now, given a year to reflect as well as see the fruits of evil labors, there’s a growing sentiment of discontent and/or disease with the progression. As normie space opportunities occur, they begin to register that discontent. The Honkening is kind of perfect because it is all at once very Boomer, very easily explained, very public, very relevant, and in another country that looks sounds and feels like America.

          We know that politics ceased to be pendular in the 1930s, but so many on the right cannot see it any other way. The last 3 years have shown that the ratchet is the proper metaphor. This is an excellent line of attack to throw at right-wingers you talk to, the ones that think the midterms or the executive or SCOTUS will being back the normal. I’ve had a lot of success with it. That being said, I don’t think we are as far down the path of convergence as was asserted after the Steal. For the dumbest of reasons, Trump gave everyone an excuse to take leave of their senses. With the excuse gone, they must either keep the pants on their head, or tacitly admit that they and the emperor are a bit chilly in this wind.

          • jim says:


            “For the last two hundred years politics has been stark raving frothing at the mouth insane, and every few decades, now every few months, gets markedly and dramatically more insane. This now provoking markedly greater resistance, therefore normality is soon going to re-assert itself.”

            Not until the resistance takes the form of killing people in considerable numbers it will not.

            • Wulfgar Thundercock III says:

              I think that the resistance is the first step on the road to war. I said once Kabul fell that war is coming faster than we thought due to the Cathedral’s regime and military failures. They are going from loss to loss, and the psychological toll that takes is immense. That psychological effect is not only on the Cathedral side; it is the instinct of man to sense and exploit weaknesses, and right-wingers are noticing more and more weakness to exploit. Eventually, someone is going to push things to violence, because deep down inside them they have a little voice saying, “If a bunch of raggedy terrorists halfway across the world beat the US military… why can’t I do it, too?” Then the fun starts.

    • Red says:

      Leftists haver already started up terror attacks on them.

      • jim says:

        Police will not stop the terrorists.

        The truckers will have to stop them. Permanently.

        And hope that the police will continue with their strange passivity. Leftist terror attacks are only dangerous when the terrorists have energetic police backing.

        This crisis is unlikely to end until the corpses are stacked up like cordwood.

        • Karl says:

          Do the truckers know this?

          • jim says:


            Normality bias.

          • simplyconnected says:

            Read yesterday an article (which unfortunately I can’t locate) where it was claimed that the IRA had only a small number of people killing, accompanied by a large support base, and that the anti-mandate people (in Australia in this case) will at some point find that that is the only way to get their way. The police, knowing this, were already engaging anti-terrorism units against protestors, in anticipation of protestors eventually figuring this out. Also, author claimed that the protestors that engage in violence would not come from the current crop of peaceful protestors, which are being monitored (but rather are currently quietly waiting), so the police’s current efforts should fail in locating those future violent individuals.

            • Arqiduka says:

              Every insurgent movement that ever operated was a few guys doing the killing, and almost everyone being soft-supportove but passive. No other combination of those two sliders is sustainable

              • simplyconnected says:

                Yes, definitely. The point of the comment is simply that it seems the police realized sooner than the protestors where this is going. That it is the protestors more than the police (or those giving orders to the police) that are suffering harder from normality bias. But also that once protestors realize where this is going, the people doing the violence will be a different group (according to the article, which was on Matt Brackern’s Gab timeline, if you can find it there (I don’t have a Gab account, so I only see the first few posts)).

        • Pooch says:

          One guy got rammed and barely run over. Hardly a terrorist attack.

        • Pooch says:

          Police will not stop the terrorists.

          He was arrested. So much for that prediction.

  20. linker says:

    “Why Do I Suck?” by Scott Alexander

    • alf says:

      Say what you want, he is witty, in a lovable loser kind of way.

    • Arqiduka says:

      Normality bias: the post.

      Hope he’s right though, and the less insane faction has already won and we’re just too downstream to have noticed yet.

    • BRAIN says:

      Speaking of Scott, I found a link to his review of the movie Don’t Look Up ( in this post and decided to check it out. It’s an interesting post, but I don’t fully agree with his interpretation.

      A friend recommended the movie to me, but I only watched the trailer, because as soon I saw the trailer, it was clear as day to me what the movie was (supposed to be) about. The way I see it, the movie is supposed to be “trust the Experts” propaganda for Covid (or climate chang i guess, doesn’t really matter). The poor all-knowing but powerless Experts just can’t get the damn people to listen to them!

      The issue however, is that the only people who will receive the intended message from the movie, are the ones that are already drinking the libtard koolaid. To me, the movie actually represented the “struggle” of dissident right anons who actually have knowledge, but not the power to get the people to accept this knowledge.

      Whatever else can be said about the filmmakers, I think they did a good job capturing the dynamic of having knowledge, but not power, being dismissed by those in power and distrusted or ridiculed by the masses because you don’t have the power to back up your knowledge.

      But it’s interesting to me that the leftists are so out of touch with reality, that they really believe the above paragraph is an accurate description of their position in society. Their Experts have the backing of every form of power imaginable and they still believe themselves to be oppressed and silenced. Their willful blindness to their own power is really incredible.

      • Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

        10. By “feelings of inferiority” we mean not only inferiority feelings in the strict sense but a whole spectrum of related traits; low self-esteem, feelings of powerlessness, depressive tendencies, defeatism, guilt, self-hatred, etc. We argue that modern leftists tend to have some such feelings (possibly more or less repressed) and that these feelings are decisive in determining the direction of modern leftism.

        11. When someone interprets as derogatory almost anything that is said about him (or about groups with whom he identifies) we conclude that he has inferiority feelings or low self-esteem. This tendency is pronounced among minority rights activists, whether or not they belong to the minority groups whose rights they defend. They are hypersensitive about the words used to designate minorities and about anything that is said concerning minorities. The terms “negro,” “oriental,” “handicapped” or “chick” for an African, an Asian, a disabled person or a woman originally had no derogatory connotation. “Broad” and “chick” were merely the feminine equivalents of “guy,” “dude” or “fellow.” The negative connotations have been attached to these terms by the activists themselves. Some animal rights activists have gone so far as to reject the word “pet” and insist on its replacement by “animal companion.” Leftish anthropologists go to great lengths to avoid saying anything about primitive peoples that could conceivably be interpreted as negative. They want to replace the world “primitive” by “nonliterate.” They seem almost paranoid about anything that might suggest that any primitive culture is inferior to our own.

        12. Those who are most sensitive about “politically incorrect” terminology are not the average black ghetto-dweller, Asian immigrant, abused woman or disabled person, but a minority of activists, many of whom do not even belong to any “oppressed” group but come from privileged strata of society. Political correctness has its stronghold among university professors, who have secure employment with comfortable salaries, and the majority of whom are heterosexual white males from middle- to upper-middle-class families.

        13. Many leftists have an intense identification with the problems of groups that have an image of being weak (women), defeated (American Indians), repellent (homosexuals) or otherwise inferior. The leftists themselves feel that these groups are inferior. They would never admit to themselves that they have such feelings, but it is precisely because they do see these groups as inferior that they identify with their problems.

        14. Feminists are desperately anxious to prove that women are as strong and as capable as men. Clearly they are nagged by a fear that women may NOT be as strong and as capable as men.

        15. Leftists tend to hate anything that has an image of being strong, good and successful. They hate America, they hate Western civilization, they hate white males, they hate rationality. The reasons that leftists give for hating the West, etc. clearly do not correspond with their real motives. They SAY they hate the West because it is warlike, imperialistic, sexist, ethnocentric and so forth, but where these same faults appear in socialist countries or in primitive cultures, the leftist finds excuses for them, or at best he GRUDGINGLY admits that they exist; whereas he ENTHUSIASTICALLY points out (and often greatly exaggerates) these faults where they appear in Western civilization. Thus it is clear that these faults are not the leftist’s real motive for hating America and the West. He hates America and the West because they are strong and successful.

        16. Words like “self-confidence,” “self-reliance,” “initiative,” “enterprise,” “optimism,” etc., play little role in the liberal and leftist vocabulary. The leftist is anti-individualistic, pro-collectivist. He wants society to solve everyone’s problems for them, satisfy everyone’s needs for them, take care of them. He is not the sort of person who has an inner sense of confidence in his ability to solve his own problems and satisfy his own needs. The leftist is antagonistic to the concept of competition because, deep inside, he feels like a loser.

        17. Art forms that appeal to modern leftish intellectuals tend to focus on sordidness, defeat and despair, or else they take an orgiastic tone, throwing off rational control as if there were no hope of accomplishing anything through rational calculation and all that was left was to immerse oneself in the sensations of the moment.

        18. Modern leftish philosophers tend to dismiss reason, science, objective reality and to insist that everything is culturally relative. It is true that one can ask serious questions about the foundations of scientific knowledge and about how, if at all, the concept of objective reality can be defined. But it is obvious that modern leftish philosophers are not simply cool-headed logicians systematically analyzing the foundations of knowledge. They are deeply involved emotionally in their attack on truth and reality. They attack these concepts because of their own psychological needs. For one thing, their attack is an outlet for hostility, and, to the extent that it is successful, it satisfies the drive for power. More importantly, the leftist hates science and rationality because they classify certain beliefs as true (i.e., successful, superior) and other beliefs as false (i.e., failed, inferior). The leftist’s feelings of inferiority run so deep that he cannot tolerate any classification of some things as successful or superior and other things as failed or inferior. This also underlies the rejection by many leftists of the concept of mental illness and of the utility of IQ tests. Leftists are antagonistic to genetic explanations of human abilities or behavior because such explanations tend to make some persons appear superior or inferior to others. Leftists prefer to give society the credit or blame for an individual’s ability or lack of it. Thus if a person is “inferior” it is not his fault, but society’s, because he has not been brought up properly.

        19. The leftist is not typically the kind of person whose feelings of inferiority make him a braggart, an egotist, a bully, a self-promoter, a ruthless competitor. This kind of person has not wholly lost faith in himself. He has a deficit in his sense of power and self-worth, but he can still conceive of himself as having the capacity to be strong, and his efforts to make himself strong produce his unpleasant behavior. But the leftist is too far gone for that. His feelings of inferiority are so ingrained that he cannot conceive of himself as individually strong and valuable. Hence the collectivism of the leftist. He can feel strong only as a member of a large organization or a mass movement with which he identifies himself.

        20. Notice the masochistic tendency of leftist tactics. Leftists protest by lying down in front of vehicles, they intentionally provoke police or racists to abuse them, etc. These tactics may often be effective, but many leftists use them not as a means to an end but because they PREFER masochistic tactics. Self-hatred is a leftist trait.

        21. Leftists may claim that their activism is motivated by compassion or by moral principles, and moral principle does play a role for the leftist of the oversocialized type. But compassion and moral principle cannot be the main motives for leftist activism. Hostility is too prominent a component of leftist behavior; so is the drive for power. Moreover, much leftist behavior is not rationally calculated to be of benefit to the people whom the leftists claim to be trying to help. For example, if one believes that affirmative action is good for black people, does it make sense to demand affirmative action in hostile or dogmatic terms? Obviously it would be more productive to take a diplomatic and conciliatory approach that would make at least verbal and symbolic concessions to white people who think that affirmative action discriminates against them. But leftist activists do not take such an approach because it would not satisfy their emotional needs. Helping black people is not their real goal. Instead, race problems serve as an excuse for them to express their own hostility and frustrated need for power. In doing so they actually harm black people, because the activists’ hostile attitude toward the white majority tends to intensify race hatred.

        22. If our society had no social problems at all, the leftists would have to INVENT problems in order to provide themselves with an excuse for making a fuss.

      • The Cominator says:

        “Feminists are desperately anxious to prove that women are as strong and as capable as men. Clearly they are nagged by a fear that women may NOT be as strong and as capable as men.”

        Nah they are either hateful old dykes or they desperately are crying out for alpha men to slap them push them against the wall and rap8 them, its a shit test.

        • Pseudo-CHrysostom says:

          Which is natural in women of any politic stripe. Uncle Ted is being slightly purple-pilled there by being non-specific about traits of male feminists in particular, but of course, we are quoting from his manifesto, not mine.

        • Anon says:

          I think that quote refers to “male” “feminists”.

        • Mister Grumpus says:

          The “burn it all down” spinster destroyer is an established archetype, but I would still appreciate a succinct evo-psyche / game theory rendition of the phenomenon.

          The premenopausal want to be carried off as war booty by superior sperm. I get that. But the postmenopausal, I don’t understand where they’re coming from here.

          • jim says:

            Evolution does not care about cat ladies, so their behavior is not predictable from evo psych.

            Observed behavior is that childless aging women want to destroy everyone and everything.

            • Mister Grumpus says:

              I’m not buying that cat ladies are a logical “don’t care” state that was never seen before 1900 or whatever. It can’t be that simple. 40% of men and 80% of women reproduce, right? 40-80, not 40-100.

              If they’ve always been around to some degree, then there must be some strange “advantage” to them acting the way they do.

              Who knows. Once postmenopausal, maybe it’s to get the tribe to remove them, save food, and scare the related fertiles out of being bitches and ending up the same way. I don’t know. But there has to be something at work here.

              • Pooch says:

                If women are reaching postmenopause without kids it means the tribe is weak but it is still not being conquered by a stronger tribe. My guess their behavior is GNON’s way of making sure the tribe gets conquered by another tribe some way or some how.

              • Pooch says:

                Actually thinking about this a bit more.

                Premenopausal woman in a weak tribe – Get carried off as warbride by a stronger conquering tribe.

                Postmenopausal woman in a weak tribe – No other stronger tribes must be around. Better to just nuke the whole project and save the resources for whenever something genetically worthwhile comes around in the future.

              • Red says:

                >If they’ve always been around to some degree, then there must be some strange “advantage” to them acting the way they do.

                Men who feel the tribe doesn’t need them tend to kill themselves. Women who are not needed tend to try and kill the tribe. I think that shows women are still following a very old program that is maladapted to modern humans while men have continued to evolve.

                In general women have not evolved very much since we invented spears.

              • Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

                There’s no reason to assume any and every spandrel is necessarily serving a good purpose; can be and often is you have kludges in one area that survive on account of adaptiveness in other areas, or something that is contingently adaptive in one context but goes ‘off the rails’ in another.

            • Herman says:

              Evolution does not explain the cat lady phenomenon on an individual basis.

              My theory is that on the group level it will increase the fitness of the group of people if a post menopausal childless women will be excluded from the group for being crazy. I think there is a tradition of doing that (e.g. witch burning)

              That would mean one less unproductive eater in the group.

              If that raises the fitness of the group then the genes of relatives of said women have a higher probability of spreading and with that indirectly the women’s genes.

    • Kunning Drueger says:

      I’ve never read that guy or his comment section before now, just the distillation and analysis that appears here, so maybe I’m being disrespectful or ignorant, but they just seem like the backbone of the modern trilby industry.

      • alf says:

        You’re not wrong.

        Scott Alexander goes a long way back. He was the most prominent figure in the rationalist community, of which I know nothing about, but I remember Spandrell sharing some juicy gossip on them back in the day, none of it good. Bunch of nerds rationalizing polyamory, I think.

        Scott wants status, but he can’t help being a smartass. The quintessential purple pill. He actually addressed and debated neoreactionaries back in the day — ultimately disagreeing with them, of course. But still acknowledging the existence of Nrx. That being coupled with him gathering fame in mainstream intellectual circles… Well, I imagine its the stuff nightmares of Jewish psychiatrists are made of. Eventually, the new york times doxxed him for flirting with crimethink, he deleted his old blog, moved to substack, and here we are.

        • alf says:

          There is this gem of a comment, I’m sad I can’t find it, in which Scott Aaronson describes Scott Alexander. Something along the lines of:

          “He is a singular beacon of intellectual honesty in these dark wasteland. A shining example of creative genius, a true inspiration to me.”

          Which made it all the funnier when Aaronson threw Alexander under the bus when the NYT came knocking on the door.

  21. > Some of the numbers appear to show that the jab causes a radical reduction in non covid deaths, which appears improbable, and is explicable as an effort to remove the massive increase in deaths from the summary totals

    Or maybe cuz vulnerable die of “COVID19” in the post-shot weeks before they’re “fully vaxxed”, while the early clot shot side effects are maxxed.

    If not on this dataset, applies elsewhere.

    • Mister Grumpus says:

      The fact that even this basic information — exactly when each dead person got which vax shots — has never been published is just blaring now.

  22. Cat says:

    Jim and some other commenters seem to imply that endless jabs are still on the menu. Denmark, Sweden and I’m sure a few other EU countries have dropped all covid restrictions. The UK has gone more or less the same way, and recently the Czech Republic Supreme Court rules vaxx passports illegal for things like restaurants.

    Some countries like Austria and Italy are still going ahead with more restrictions, maybe not as blatantly as a month or two ago though.

    How do you square some GAE provinces, including key ones like the UK dropping or significantly rolling back covid restrictions to your idea of never ending jabs for the forseeable future?

    Also, note that Fauci recently expressed shock that only about half of double vaxxed Americans have gotten their booster so far. Even leftists who took the double jab are having their faith tested.

    Looks to me like covid restrictions are slowing down and being unwound in almost all American provinces, so I doubt 4 years from now we will have gigavaxxed HCD worshippers with 10 jabs, unfortunately.

    I predict some countries will keep a vaccine passport for employment, but loosen current requirements, while most other countries will abolish all restrictions. And masks and mandatory vaccines will stay forever for aerial travel.

    • alf says:

      Not the first time a holiness spiral has been halted or even somewhat reversed. Feminism was temporarily reversed in the forties. Arson and looting was temporarily reversed in the seventies. Both came back.

      Unless it is stopped with righteous force, like the whipping and humiliation of pussy patrol, a holiness spiral always returns. And if not this holiness spiral anytime soon, they shall jump aboard the next one.

    • jim says:

      > And masks and mandatory vaccines will stay forever for aerial travel.

      Everyone needs to routinely fly internationally. It is extremely inconvenient and damaging that I cannot fly, and many people I know have more need to fly than I do. I have family, friends, and urgent business matters all over the world. People close to me who think of vax as I do are vaxxing because they absolutely have to fly. If this continues indefinitely, it will very likely kill them all.

      • SJE says:

        “Everyone needs to routinely fly internationally”

        This is the most I-live-in-a-bubble thing I’ve ever seen Jim post.

        • Kunning Drueger says:

          I see your point, but it’s bubble to bubble. I have to cross state lines constantly, and in an area of very diverse demography and Covid restrictions. My trunk is a nightmare of non-compliance, and I have to keep a hot sheet of dumb shit to remember for interviews and inspections and the like. I can’t imagine pulling it off internationally.

        • linker says:

          You are a person with very low expectations. I despise people like you who constantly undercut men with perfectly reasonable expectations and aspirations for the future. You people weigh down civilization almost as much as leftists.
          “Oh you think 40% taxes are a big deal? Most people don’t have a problem living a good life. That’s only for RICH people making more than 120k anyways!”
          “You think 18 is a high age of consent? 18 is pretty young. Just stay away from high school girls and you won’t go to prison, it’s that simple”
          “Just get the jab, even if it kills people it’s only 1 in 1000 or so!”
          “You can’t find a girlfriend under 22 that weighs less than 130 pounds? Just go to church and lower your expectations. There are plenty of fish in the sea!”
          “You don’t like how good graphics cards cost three times as much as they should? Just save up your money, it shouldn’t be too hard if you have a good job. Anyways there are plenty of good indie games that don’t need a fancy graphics card. Video games are a waste of time anyway.”

          • ten says:

            40%? In what libertarian utopia do you live? (Fuck sweden)

          • Gauntlet says:

            Running a business in Norway your actual tax rate is something like 80% if you include VAT… Norway is also one of the few countries in the world with a net wealth tax. Around 1% if net wealth is taxed each year. Got 5 million dollar net worth locked in a company that doesn’t pay out dividends or earnings? Well, the state says F U and sends you a bill for $50.000. Every year. On top of income tax.

        • jim says:

          Well, not everyone, most of my friends and acquaintances around where I live do not.

      • notglowing says:

        I need to fly internationally as well. Not having the pass for the booster has been a bit of a pain, and my pass for the two shots will expire soon. But for now I’m managing, maybe I’ll manage to “get” the booster too. However, if it turns into infinite boosters that will become impossible.

    • Skippy says:

      “How do you square some GAE provinces, including key ones like the UK dropping or significantly rolling back covid restrictions to your idea of never ending jabs for the forseeable future?”

      The UK has consistently been very independent on covid (which is not to say it has always been opposed to measures – it has its own grasping research management bureaucracy and risk averse population) and it seems that Boris Johnson personally and/or the right in his party has put a great deal of pressure to avoid restrictive measures. Which has been only partially successful given the international reality.

      The UK does not matter much but the example matters. And now Boris Johnson is facing a mysteriously persistent avalanche of embarrassing revelations of no great real importance.

      All countries have to grapple with the fact that there is not much justification for these measures any more, even less than there was previously. The Germans just enjoy being told what to do. Macron wants to turn France into a technocratic dictatorship. I don’t know what Italy’s deal is, but then their presidents have been replaced by EU proconsuls in the past, so maybe they just aren’t an independent country. Anywhere there is a serious opposition that exists inside the formal political system, difficult to sustain covid.

      • notglowing says:

        > I don’t know what Italy’s deal is,
        > but then their presidents have been replaced by EU proconsuls in the past,
        It was both an EU replacement and also a “technical government” is what they called it, essentially government-by-experts, also known as a technocracy. That’s how bad we have it.

        I’m not surprised our academia took over the country because it was always very powerful. But I am still surprised we ended up having the worst measures in all of the west (excluding Israel but I don’t count that).

        That said, the current prime minister is also an EU proconsul, Draghi was the ECB president for almost a decade.
        When he got inaugurated, he was treated by all parties like the second coming of Christ, and I didn’t understand why. He seems to have extreme status among the elite. As if we are a country of dirty ignorant peasants and we are unworthy of having someone of such calibre rule us. I would liken it to Barack Obama in the US but without the republican opposition (even Salvini came to his side).

        Plus remember that he was never elected, much like many of our prime ministers he was chosen by the President because the previous government fell. The government has changed twice with no election this time around. It happens routinely.

        The President (Mattarella) holds a mostly ceremonial role, except that he gets to do whatever he wants when the government falls.
        He was due to be replaced a few weeks ago, and instead got confirmed again for seven more years with Draghi’s mediation. Basically, the President is elected by the parliament, the parliament is elected by voters and nominates the prime minister, who nominates the rest of the executive. When the government fails, the president decides what happens next. One hand washes the other. If anyone is controlled from outside, it’s the President, because he’s the kingmaker, and isn’t directly elected.
        Our government changes all the time with no need for elections to happen.

        > so maybe they just aren’t an independent country.
        I think many Italians have since Aldo Moro’s assassination felt that the US or whoever else in their place controls our government, and that no one would get in power without their approval.

    • notglowing says:

      > Some countries like Austria and Italy are still going ahead with more restrictions, maybe not as blatantly as a month or two ago though.

      Italy is not adding restrictions. They did so recently, it was planned and passed in parliament weeks before.
      But they have not added restrictions in the past couple weeks, and there is no plan to at the moment. The state of emergency will expire after march, and they announced it won’t be extended.

      > mandatory vaccines will stay forever for aerial travel.

      They’re not even mandatory right now, and I don’t think they’re planning on adding that requirement. Countries have different entry requirements but not many strictly require vaccines, though most require a negative test if not vaccinated.
      Italy does require vaccination for aerial travel, but only for domestic flights.
      They announced the booster will last “forever” though of course that may be changed once a fourth dose comes out.

      I am cautiously optimistic.

    • Varna says:

      Lithuania just announced it’s ditching the cuck pass. Officially because “we succeeded, the measures worked, we’re all vaxxed now, we won.”

      Which is curious as they are 69% jabbed. For that matter Czechia is 63% jabbed.

      • Herman says:

        Good news.

        More potential countries for a long “vacation” from the insanity here.

        What would be interesting would be rate that younger people are vaxxed.

        In the British Data a lot of the younger people are unvaxxed.

  23. Arqiduka says:

    Off-topic but quite relevant to a discussion had here a bit ago:

    Just linking this, not keen to reignite the issue.

  24. Mayflower Sperg says:

    All good liberals believe that Joe Biden won a clean election, and if you can accept those statistical absurdities, or just ignore them, you can easily believe that the clot shot is safe and effective. Keep the faith and stay boosted; those racist unvaxed idiots will be dropping like flies any day now!

    • Anonymous Fake says:

      The doublethink singularity is that good liberals can’t see the Biden cheated against Trump but that he obviously cheated against Bernie Sanders. They can’t figure out the implications of this.

      • Mayflower Sperg says:

        Liberals neatly solve this conundrum by forgetting that Bernie Sanders ever existed. A good liberal doesn’t think about anything the media hasn’t mentioned in the past 48 hours.

        • Anon says:

          A good liberal doesn’t think about anything the media hasn’t mentioned in the past 48 hours.


  25. Severian says:

    On Ukraine,
    Russia continues to prepare.

    “83 BTGs near Ukraine with another 14 in transit. That means Russia has 1/2 of its total number of BTGs near Ukraine, which represents about half of Russia’s ground combat power. 14 more BTGs would bring the total to ~100”
    “58% of the Russian Armed Forces’ total”

    Looks like they have started to move some troops to man the assets near the border too.
    Russian forces in Crimea also entered high alert.

    You cannot keep this posture for long without making a move. That might be coming real soon.

    • Pooch says:

      What the media is not saying is there are 100k-150k Ukrainian troops massed on the border of Donbass. Russia is going to need more troops for a full invasion, although Ukraine may invade Donbass first anyway.

      • Arqiduka says:

        LOL, if they are so foolish as to jam 150k troops on a very narrow front on the edge of the country, which shall be encircled on week one of the war from the adversary who is skilled in mech warfare, they deserve to loose hard.

        • jim says:

          They are not there to win. They are there to die. Their job is to provide the spectacle of Russian troops killing Ukrainian troops on Ukrainian soil, and the more efficiently, easily, and safely the Russians can kill them, the better from the point of view of the Ukrainian government and Nato hawks.

          • Arqiduka says:

            Best possible angle for hawks would be a valiant fight against massive odds, with blood shed on every inch, not your whole army being Dunkerqued on week one. That would kill every interventionist fantasy on the spot. I actually think they wish to provoke the Russians and are willing to pay with their army to tempt them, which confirms that the Russians won’t invade on their own otherwise and have to be made to.

            • Severian says:

              I don’t see the Ukrainians the starting a provocation.
              If anything their look frozen in place almost to avoid creating the pretext Russia would eagerly take right now.

              The Russians will dictate the start of the conflict if they do invade.

            • jim says:

              The Russians do not want to invade without an excuse.

              The Ukrainian government wants them to invade, but does not want to give them an excuse.

      • Severian says:

        The Ukrainians are seriously outgunned despite their numbers. They have no serious AA either.

        Imagine the demoralizing effect of being under Russian artillery and air strikes when you have no way of fighting back.
        I suspect much of that Ukrainian military will evaporate much like the Afghanis did.

      • Aidan says:

        I can’t find the interview anymore, but about a week ago Zelensky snapped back at the US, in what appeared to be genuine fear and panic, for warmongering. Seems to me like the administration is pushing the Ukraine into getting slaughtered by Russia so they can get their holy war against Putler. And it seems to me like Zelensky realized, late and to his sorrow, that his country was a sacrificial pawn.

        I don’t think Zelensky is going to continue to play ball with the West. Maybe he is a total puppet, but it looks like he just realized his greatest enemy is behind him, not in front of him. I expect him to align with Russia, telling the West politely to fuck off.

        I have a pet theory that the small arms used by a nation’s military are the most telling factor in who they end up allying with. When it comes to war, who is going to be supplying you? Interestingly, the Ukraine is fielding a new rifle that is interchangeable between 5.56 NATO and 7.62×39. Seems like the military has not given up on being friends with Russia.

        • jim says:

          Theoretically, Britain went to war with Germany for the sake of Poland.

          When the dust settled, did not look much like that was the reason.

        • Kunning Drueger says:

          I like and share that theory, but what platform switches between those calibres?

          • Aidan says:


            The official story is that they designed it that way to burn through their stocks of Soviet ammo before they switch to 5.56, but imo, if they were committed to an alliance with the West, they shouldn’t have any worries about getting 5.56.

        • Skippy says:

          Does Zelensky really care? He seems like a player to me, not a spontaneous Ukrainian product. I am sure he has a luxurious exile waiting for him so long as he plays his part.

          • Pooch says:

            Yes exactly. He’s a Jewish comedian and a total Western puppet who doesn’t even speak Ukrainian. He likely has very little control of anything actually going on in Ukraine.

            • Aidan says:

              He was installed as a puppet, but puppets have a tendency to rebel. If he went to Moscow and shook Putin’s hand, and said “you can have an independent Donbass (which would swiftly vote to join Russia) and I promise no NATO troops on my soil”, it would probably just happen.

              Now, the West would try to remove him after this, but might find that hard to do with Putin’s support. Putin and Xi have wised up to the color revolution game and are willing to roll in the tanks to stop it.

              • The Cominator says:

                Its a very bad thing to drive Putin into the hands of Xi…

                Putin has mostly been a good guy over his career but Xi is something of a dirty commie of the old style.

                • Pooch says:

                  The fired German Naval Chief didn’t have the worst take in the world, that the West and Russia should ally as Christian brothers to take on the real threat of China.

                • Aidan says:

                  Who cares? It is not like Putin is letting Xi write his economic policy. They are deciding not to let the gay empire play them against each other, that is about it. It does not matter very much at all if Xi lets his country collapse into a total socialist shithole. In fact, it would probably be a good thing.

              • jim says:

                Putin just did roll in the tanks to stop it.

              • Pooch says:

                He was installed as a puppet, but puppets have a tendency to rebel. If he went to Moscow and shook Putin’s hand, and said “you can have an independent Donbass (which would swiftly vote to join Russia) and I promise no NATO troops on my soil”, it would probably just happen.

                Possible but exceedingly unlikely. Zelensky is making money hand over fist being the head of a thoroughly corrupt Western puppet regime very much like the one in Afghanistan. He won’t have that opportunity with Putin. I imagine he was vetted by the West exactly for that role. Just as the Afghani President he would just assume to grab all his money and zip on out of there at the first sign of Russian takeover.

                • Pooch says:

                  Additionally, it appears the Ukrainian military is not under control of Zelensky whose power is very circumscribed by other Cathedral actors, oligarchs and militia chiefs in Kiev, not to mention by US and UK forces on the ground.

                  If Zelensky were to theoretically shake hands with Putin and come to some agreement its likely to be largely ignored by Ukrainian forces after which he would be quickly expelled by the government.

              • Skippy says:

                @Aidan – do you have any analysis of Zelensky’s career? He is incredibly fake. A literal TV comedian who became president from nowhere by (somehow) funding a TV show depicting himself as president of Ukraine via his own production company.

                This is almost certainly a Western setup in which case Zelensky never had any intention of doing other than as ordered in exchange for a lavish transnational retirement in the West.

                Even if it isn’t fake, hardly the sort of guy to rewrite history with the brass of his own balls against the interests of the ostensibly stronger faction.

                Zelensky’s only real worry is that he gets murdered by a Russian airborne assault on his office in the first minutes of the war, which the Soviets did to the Afghan government when they invaded. Otherwise, he only has to do what he’s told and he’ll be a visiting Professor at Harvard or whatever he wants for the rest of his life whatever happens to Ukraine.

                • Pooch says:

                  My other comment got moderated for some reason but to repeat:

                  It’s also highly unlikely Zelensky has much control of the military in Ukraine. His power is very circumscribed by other Western actors, oligarchs and militia chiefs in Kiev, not to mention by US and UK forces on the ground in Ukraine.

                • Aidan says:

                  You do realize that scumbags and grifters are likely to betray the people who put them into power, right? In ancient history, an empire installs a puppet king, who defects on the puppeteer and fights the empire. That is a story as old as kings and empires. I do not attribute to globohomo some magical power to keep its puppets in line.

                  Being an exile sitting on a fat stack of cash is nice. Being the leader of a country is nicer. I am basing my prediction on my innate judgement of character. Zelensky acts and sounds like he is really afraid of getting into a war with Russia. If he had plans to flee, he would not sound like that. It could be an act, but if it was an act to get Russia to invade, he would not be talking like that. Acting afraid of war makes Putin think he can win concessions at the table. If his intent was the same as the US intent, he would be pushing for war.

                  I am sure Zelensky’s ideal world involves him sitting on a peaceable liberal democracy Ukraine that he robs blind under the aegis of NATO while Russia quietly puts up with it. But he is realizing that his ideal world is not possible.

                  Yes, Zelensky likely has little control of the military. But the military may have control of him. That the Ukraine military adopted a modular rifle that can shift from American ammo to Russian ammo with just a barrel change indicates that the military has some reservations about fully signing on with the West. It is quite possible that the army told Zelensky “fighting separatists is one thing, but we do not want the West to throw us into a suicidal war with Russia, and you had best not play along with them.”

                • Arqiduka says:

                  Worked for Reagan, who knows

                • Pooch says:

                  That the Ukraine military adopted a modular rifle that can shift from American ammo to Russian ammo with just a barrel change indicates that the military has some reservations about fully signing on with the West. It is quite possible that the army told Zelensky “fighting separatists is one thing, but we do not want the West to throw us into a suicidal war with Russia, and you had best not play along with them.”

                  The military of the puppet Afghan regime mass defected over to the Taliban. It would be interesting to know if the same would happen in Ukraine if Russian tanks started to roll for real and inflict causalities. I suspect it might given that Ukraine is essentially a fake country.

                • Kunning Drueger says:

                  Applying Aidan’s Law to the ANA and ANP, they were never serious about commiting to Globohomo, though some of their specialist units did use fully western kit.

                  Ukraine is a fake country, but it isn’t a landlocked, mountainous tribal backwater with a history of never falling. It’s a ported, planar boundary zone with a history of falling repeatedly. So I don’t think they’re all that comparable.

                  I am biased toward Aidan because he’s my CO in the culture war, but at first blush I was skeptical about the idea of Zelensky cutting his own strings. He’s definitely a Trumpian Politician (as in, a former-non politico thrust into the artifice of democracy, like AOC and others), but these plants have a lot of agency in a weird way. By being place holders for hidden interests, they don’t have the long chain of concession and compromise and commitment normal LibDemoc politicians have. He’s also a Slav and a Jew. Assuming he was selected by Globohomo to play martyr for NATO, his sense of self-interest and possible lately developed appreciation for realpolitik could conceivably drive him into Putin’s corner. It sounds outlandish, but what doesn’t these days?

                • The Cominator says:

                  Assuming the puppet isn’t crazy he will stick with globohomo (who for now can have him killed) if he thinks Putin isn’t serious and will try to defect if he thinks Putin is trying to Kieve.

                  It gets trickier if

                  a) Putin only wants to takeover the Donbass and annex it… this would leave him in a very weak position but still at the mercy of his puppetmasters without a good way to get rid of them

                  b) He is stupid and thinks they can beat Russia (I don’t think this is likely though)

                • Severian says:

                  Annexing pieces of territory in Ukraine so far has not achieved Russia’s objective which is to stop Ukraine drifting west.

                  It could be that Putin will launch a limited offensive to annex another piece, but why would they something that hasn’t worked in the past?
                  Plus this is exactly the scenario the Ukrainians are prepared against, so risk reward is terrible.

                  The scale of preparation implies a much bigger goal, probably regime change.

                • Aidan says:

                  Obviously, if Zelensky allies with Putin the west will attempt to remove him. But Kazakhstan showed that Putins allies are not easy for the west to remove. Putins goal is no western armies near his borders. He would be quite happy to drop the Donbas in exchange for a firm alliance, perhaps with face-saving ‘greater local autonomy’ for the region.

                • Skippy says:

                  I dont see any possibility whatsoever of Zelensky switching sides. He was chosen as someone thought unlikely to switch sides and he will be rewarded for doing a good job outside Ukraine even if the whole of Ukraine is conquered. Even if the whole of Europe somehow falls to Putler, Zelensky will have a mcmansion waiting for him in Virginia.

                • Pooch says:

                  I don’t even think Zelensky is being included in negotiations between Putin and the US. And if so, just barely, and after the fact. This tells you all you need to know about how much authority he has on making peace with Russia.

                • Aidan says:

                  This discussion is going in circles. Skippy, maybe a mcmansion in Virginia is your dream, and you would take it over saving one’s nation, but some men open their eyes to virtue and duty when responsibilities are placed on their shoulders. I find it likely that this is the case, or will become the case very soon, because I take Zelensky’s fear that the Ukraine will be destroyed, and his resentful implication that the US is trying to make that happen, as legitimate.

                  Some puppet kings are browbeaten by the local elite into rising against the empire that installed them. It is possible the military is responsible for Zelensky’s change of heart, having informed him that if he gets on a plane to Dulles, that plane is likely to be shot down.

                  Pooch, though Zelensky might not be in charge of much, there is power in nominal leadership and symbolic actions. If he went to Moscow, and sat down with Putin and leaders of the separatists, and came out saying that there would be peace, the west could not do very much but try the color revolution game, which Putin is now able and willing to thwart.

                • jim says:

                  I have the will to power, you have the will to power, most males do, all males that can plausibly pull off the appearance of alpha in front of women do.

                  Zelensky was recruited by Globohomo, therefore has no will power. His highest aspiration is McMansion and an Ivy League professorship.

                • Arqiduka says:

                  Agree with Aidan that Zelensky has a non-negligible chance of turning (50% I’d say), and that doing this would be the greatest victory for Russia and cause the greatest embarassment to globohomo.

                • Kunning Drueger says:

                  Jim, are you saying that anyone recruited by the Left has no will to power? That doesn’t make sense to me as an absolute. Lots of males on the left may have no will to power, but couldn’t it also be the case that they are deceived as to the value of will and what power is? This may be a part of the larger, ongoing discussion about what percentage of the Left is The Left. And what about people that wake up to the situation while they are in the midst of it?

                • jim says:

                  The left is crawling with people who have an inordinate will to power, and pursue it in ways that are evil, destructive to themselves and to everyone around them.

                  But the guys at the top are utterly terrified of this. So Zelensky is unlikely to be one of those people.

                  One of the huge problems with color revolutions is that when they succeed, the State Department invariably installs people who have little real interest in the power bestowed on them, and are apt to steal anything not nailed so long as there is no trouble, and then flee when there is trouble.

                  They don’t try to build a powerbase independent of the people who installed them.

  26. Anonymousposter says:

    Do you guys think pre covid vaccines are bad/scams too and did more harm than good? Wondering because how do we know that the conventional wisdom there isn’t partially bullshit or mostly bullshit given what we know about covid vaccines now. Like why would 20th century science/sources be much better given what we know about how typical 20th century history is often or typically full of shit. I don’t know either way, real question.

    • jim says:

      Vaccine science, and vaccines have been steadily getting worse and more dangerous, and more and more vaccines are being applied to diseases where they are less and less useful.

      The first vaccine, the cowpox virus against the smallpox virus, was the greatest thing since sliced bread. Best vaccine ever. But it has been downhill since then, and now “downhill” is more “Falling off a cliff with jagged rocks at the bottom.”

      The HPIV vaccine was a malicious and hateful crime against humanity, by people who hated everyone and wanted to harm everyone, which prefigured the crimes now happening on a vastly greater scale.

      Like the Covid vaccine, it was the product of people who think there are far too many people, and especially far too many white people, and want there to be a lot fewer of them.

      • Arakawa says:

        Some diseases are easy to vaccinate against and some are hard. Vaccines must be evaluated carefully to avoid giving out bad vaccines and to maintain the reputation of the whole thing.

        However, the ideology built on early low-hanging-fruit successes is that vaccines are always effective and safe, safe, safer than water, you’d have to be a literal imbecile not to take all of them. Because they are safe, safe, safer than water, there is no disease obscure or mild enough that vaccinating against it isn’t worth the effort. Therefore, honest evaluation does not take place and the reputation of the whole thing erodes.

        Therefore, the inexorable trend of the whole thing is ever more useless and dangerous vaccines for ever less important diseases imposed on the population in ever larger numbers, with increasingly strident propaganda to cover up the eroding reputation of the whole thing. If vaccines aren’t bad enough to cause spontaneous and universal popular revolt yet, just wait for another ten years of ‘scientific progress’ to take place, and they will be.

    • BRAIN says:

      There was a /pol/ infographic on the mechanism behind vaccines that seemed reasonable to me, its what convinced me to stop getting flu shots every year (thats how I was raised). I can’t find it now, but will try to find it.

      It’s a well written infographic with medical sources, basically talks about the human immune system and how it produces two types of immune responses: specific and generalized. Specific response leads to a strengthening of your immunity vs that same disease that prompted it, whereas generalized response strengthens your immunity vs all diseases. The key diff is that the stronger the infection, the more likely to trigger a generalized response. And that too many specific responses inhibit the generalized response. This is where vaccines come in – because a vaccine is a weakened virus, it necessarily triggers a specific response which also inhibits future generalized responses. In practice, too many vaxx weaken your immune systems.

      That’s the gist of it, I think. It seemed pretty sensible to me and I at the time (this was in 2018 I think) was already distrustful of peer-reviewed science and the medical consensus of vaccinate for everything, so I decided to accept this explanation. Stopped getting flu shot.

      I think a reasonable position is to take the actual virus you’re vaccinating against into account. Is it something extremely deadly? Then yes, you’re probably better off getting vaxxed. Is it the flu? No sense in vaxxing against it. Is it something in between – exercise personal judgment. Anecdotally speaking, while I was getting vaxxed my flu lasted about a week. Now I either dont get sick or it goes away in 2-3 days. No significant lifestyle changes.

      • Red says:

        Getting the flu shot is stupid because taking shot doesn’t give your mucosae system antibodies and T-Cells to stop the flu. All airborn viruses come through the mucosae immune system before it hits the general immune system thus the shot does nothing to stop the flu because it’s in the wrong fucking place. Vaccines for airborn viruses should be blown in the nose, not injected in the arm.

        My father used to teach school and the first couple of years he did it he caught every virus under the sun the kids and was sick all the time. After that he didn’t get seriously sick for 30 years. To this day despite poor health due to comorbidities he shrugs off most infections like they’re nothing because he’s got a library of partial immunity from the shitload of viruses he’s encountered. Immune systems can be strengthened, but you need whole viruses for it and they must trigger both immune systems.

    • Skippy says:

      “Do you guys think pre covid vaccines are bad/scams too and did more harm than good?”

      When vaccines were first introduced against widespread diseases like smallpox that had huge mortality rates, no one cared much about side effects. Which were real and killed a number of people, and that was pretty well known at the time, but it was still a great deal.

      It’s only now that vaccines are being used to “make the rubble bounce” on diseases that were mostly eliminated by sanitation, and sometimes aren’t very dangerous anyway, that this becomes a relevant question. And, mysteriously, at just this moment the vaccine developers and advocates stop being willing to answer it.

  27. notglowing says:

    Seems like Alberta is ending all restrictions:

    I guess the protest worked.

    • jim says:

      Prerevolutionary situation. It is not over till it is over.

      Concessions will be made, then unmade, then made again, then unmade again.

      As a general rule, demon worshiping cults in power have to exterminated to remove them, though this may not necessarily be necessary this time.

      The soft mutiny of the army and police prefigures the likelihood of hard mutiny if the Worshipers of the Awesome and Mighty Covid demon keep on keeping on.

      A likely outcome is that the Worshipers of the Awesome and Mighty Covid demon will retreat temporarily and focus on purging the army and police, and then proceed with forced vaccinations for everyone, with a furtive officially unofficial exemption for themselves.

      This will take a while, and by then we should be seeing some die offs as undeniably obvious as the destruction of our cities by hostile invader populations, though you will notice that that has not stopped anyone from denying the destruction of our cities by hostile invader populations.

      • The Cominator says:

        I predict that Trudeau will not make any concessions as he can’t possibly survive unless he crushes the truckers, but it seems like his security forces hate him so likely he ends up being removed.

        If he ends up getting removed extralegally it likely turns into a revolution… if the parliament or governor general removes him the demon worshippers will likely lay low for a year and then try again in a more artful manner.

        • Jehu says:

          I don’t think surviving as a leader of Canada is really possible for Trudeau. He HAS to crush the truckers, but he doesn’t have the ability to do so. And he has no way to make them keep Canada alive should he actually crush them.

          Personally I think the truckers should choose a Caesar to rule Canada and tell the rest of Canada if they don’t like it they can freeze in the dark. No more rigged elections or Cathedral controlled institutions. But Canadians REALLY don’t think that way. Unfortunately, neither do Americans. They just get quiet when you ask, and then what… to their political solutions.

      • Pooch says:

        LOL…wish I could be as optimistic as you guys. It’ll be broken up by the cops eventually and that will be the end of it. Entertaining, but right wing protests don’t work.

        • Wulfgar Thundercock III says:

          Protests unpacked by power do not work. The power has been in the hands of the left, so right-wing protests did not work. Now the police and the army are saying, in effect, “Oh, no, look at the incredible will of the people! We can do nothing in the face of the will of the people!” Which is power backing the protest. Power counts, not left or right.

          • The Cominator says:

            The truckers arguably have underived power (there was a reason the establishment was genuinely afraid of Jimmy Hoffa for a while) if they are united in nearly enough numbers given that if they stop working any modern economy will collapse, and if even a handful jackknife their trucks as strategic points on roads simeltaneously its very very hard for even an army to deal with easily…. big rigs are not easy to tow.

            I did not expect that they had them in them to actually do this but I am impressed and given that it is still going on and the truckers are not yet stopped I am rather optimistic…

        • The Cominator says:

          Sounds like the 4chan chatter is the regime intends to try to intimidate the truckers with the threat of legal action…

          • The Cominator says:

            I mean civil suits…

            • Arakawa says:

              Civil suits and woke insurance company pressure. That strategy would blow up in their face horribly in the short term.

              If it’s announced that, upon dismantling the protest, the truckers will be prevented from resuming their lives by getting lawyered to death, that will be a great motivation for them to dig in harder. After all, government lawyers are super useful for towing illegally parked trucks….

              And if they’re doomed to go down anyway, they have no reason not to drag Trudeau’s political career down with them.

              It would fall into the same dynamic that makes hostage negotiations so tense and pointless, because the only thing the police negotiator is permitted to offer the hostage-taker after a certain point is a choice between prison, and prison.

              • The Cominator says:

                Well then in that case we have cause to celebrate as Castro’s bastard is doomed.

      • Anonymous Fake says:

        [*deleted for all the usual reasons that I have repeated far too many times*]

        • Red says:

          So it’s either Mercenaries or Surrender.

          • Aidan says:

            This is the point where the left organizes a “counter-protest” full of blacks and antifa to fight the truckers. But since the cops refused to break up the protest, it’s unlikely they will do their usual job of protecting the leftists. Maybe the Canadian left has been so secure in its power that it no longer has the human and institutional connections to spin up left-wing street violence. But in my experience, truckers tend to be strapped up, and it is likely tptb know that their left-wing violence would lose. Or they send in antifa to be martyred by the evil right-wing truckers to try and get the military off the fence.

            • Red says:

              Looks like they’re going with the bring in security forces from other areas route that the Chinese did with Tiananmen Square. Guess we’ll see if the truckers are serious about this or not.

              • Pooch says:

                The cops are stealing the trucker’s fuel in the middle of the night and cutting off their supply lines. Probably the smart move on their part if they want to resist a physical confrontation but still put pressure on the truckers to leave.

                The truckers at the protest are a small minority of the total truckers in the country so its not really a strike. There is no real pressure for the government to cave. The city can wait them out until their supplies diminish and then start ramping up fines.

                It will likely go down as a big nothingburger but its interesting how invigorated and energetic the entire right is about it. Even Elon Musk got caught up in the energy.

  28. Kunning Drueger says:

    I know the chans are a minefield of shills, but the Honkening did bring a lot of anti-shill sentiment out, and they were desperately trying to minimize it so energetically the tripped up a lot and were called out. So maybe there is some compute to be gained there?

    If anyone has a twitter handle, they could put out “homework assignments” but use fill-in terms, kind of like how suppressors were sold as “lawnmower parts” on Facebook marketplace.

    I want to contribute to the effort, but I math at a 6th grade level. If someone gave me specific instructions, I could probably help, but the return wouldn’t be worth the time. Maybe get help from the Ortho-Discord? Lots of men there, and plenty are opposed to the vaxx.

  29. Herman says:

    What’s the game plan here? What are we trying to get out of the data?

    Proof that the data is being tempered with?

    Expectations how many will die in which age group by vaxx status?

    Proof that the vaxx has is killing people at increasing rate?

    Do we want to find out what they are not publishing as potential things we have to look at?

    • Kunning Drueger says:

      I don’t know Jim’s plan, and I know there is a ton of very justified opposition to the Higher Education Complex, and having a bunch of processed data will be incredibly useful for research purposes if/when the worm turns.

    • The Cominator says:

      I suppose to try to form a picture of the future of the vaxxed and society… My theory is as follows

      1. There will be some outright dropping dead but not enough to dramatically shrink the population on its own.
      2. A lot of people will have shorter lifespans though due to chronic and expensive health problems, it seems like this will be dominated by cancer, immune defincies and heart problems
      3. The vaxx will sterilize most women who take it (and more women took it then men), this will cause large scale depopulation*.
      4. Heavy smokers and heavy vapers will be more likely to avoid the poisonous effects as they maintain high nicotine levels which apparently stops most of the spike protein from binding to ACE2 receptors before its eventually flushed out of the system.

      * In very blue areas in particular most women who avoid the vax will be nurses (the mandate won’t have much effect on anti vax nurses as they will get fake certificates) new agey type girls and strippers and whores (the nurses know the vax is bad, new agey girls and whores unlike normie women don’t trust the government).

      • jim says:

        The damage appears to be cumulative. If so, enough boosts, everyone dies.

      • Red says:

        Blacks and Mexicans are very under vaccinated while whites and Asians took most of the shots. That doesn’t bode well for the future.

        • Varna says:

          Chronically ill globohomo voters would be a great excuse for eternal non-person voting. And of course replacing them with imported third worlders a great excuse for no-Id voting.

          But they really appear increasingly confident that public opinion doesn’t really have to be on their side, and elections don’t really need to be won. Fake media instead of public opinion, fake polls instead of real approval, fake elections. This seems to be their implied strategy.

          I read some Russian articles the other day, and one described Trudeau’s behavior and manner as that of “a minor colonial official trying to deal with restless natives”. I instantly felt a truth in this.

          And in a sense all of the current globohomo elites are “colonial officials”, and the heritage whites are the new “backward natives” who need to be either “uplifted” or eradicated or preferably both. The global elites are a supra-national network with horizontal links between them and few if any vertical links to their countries of birth and growing up, and to them the whole planet is a colony, with the according approach to wealth fleecing, population control, propaganda, use of foreign groups to control and pacify the natives, sneaky sterilization programs, and even the occasional controlled famine looks like it.

          We are all colonized niggers now. Except maybe in parts of East Asia, parts of Eastern Europe, and parts of the third world, where concepts like “citizens” and “state institutions” are still tied to the old timey definition of “this is my nation and my fate is tied to it”.

          • Oog en Hand says:

            Trudeau is Boba, Castro is Jango.

          • The Cominator says:

            Colonial governments were better than the native governments (well except for Leopold) these motherfuckers…

            • Aidan says:

              Leopold’s government of the Congo is fake history. Some leftist historian disingenuously took an early population estimate for the Congo of 15 million, and subtracted the real census after Leopold that showed 5 million to get a genocide of 10 million, conflating it with an anecdote of some nigger overseer cutting off the hands of the enemy tribesmen he had been charged with governing.

              • The Cominator says:

                Yeah probably I haven’t looked into it and before now haven’t heard anyone saying its fake.

                • The Cominator says:

                  Colonialism was better government obviously in most places especially Africa, I just have never read a reactionary redpill specifically on why the allegations against Leopold’s Congo were fake and gay. I wouldn’t doubt if they were I just don’t know about it.

                  And what the conventional Cathedral historians point to is a supposed population decline… Aidan says its fake and maybe it is (10 million sounds unrealistic unless they got a totally new disease which being Africa and not the New World is unlikely) but I don’t know enough to have the real redpill on it yet.

                • Neofugue says:

                  Alt-Hype uploaded a video on this subject a while ago before his channel was banned, but it remains on Bitchute:


                • A2 says:

                  The then-uncounted population of the Congo Free State appears to have been grossly overestimated, which leads authors like Hochschild (“King Leopold’s Ghost”) to arrive at sensationalist holocaust-like numbers when compared to an actual census taken some years later when Belgium took over.

                • Drive-By Reactionary says:

                  Moldbug wrote a bit about the Congo back in 2009

                  From the post :

                  “Our case study in colonialism: the Belgian Congo, aka Zaire. There is no defending the Congo Free State—but 1960 minus 1908 is quite some time. Observe the sinuosity with which this propagandist redacts an inconvenient half-century:

                  Government as a system of organized theft goes back to King Leopold II, who made a fortune [in the Congo] equal to well over $1.1 billion in today’s money, chiefly in rubber and ivory. Then for fifty-two years this was a Belgian colony, run less rapaciously, but still mainly for the purpose—as with colonies almost everywhere—of extracting wealth for the mother country and its corporations. The grand tradition was continued by Mobutu Sese Seko…

                  In other words: skip from Leopold to Mobutu as fast as possible, noting only that the Congo under Belgian administration was… gasp… profitable. Sacre bleu! Another of those nitroglycerines, nurse—I think my heart just skipped a whole bar. Profitable government! Why, it’s practically a second Holocaust.”

        • Anon says:

          Mexicans/Hispanics/Latinos are actually more vaccinated than whites. Blacks are slightly to moderately vaccinated than whites, thats true. Asians are super vaccinated.

        • Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

          If vaxxageddon was randomly distributed this would indeed, be quite dire.

          However, vaxxageddon is disproportionally affecting clades of people a good man would be well served by physically removing and separating from society anyways.

          It is true that in the meantime covidian leftists are trying everything in their power to make continued existence as agonic as possible; but they may well have struck a telling blow exactly at the possibility of having such power to do as such, if, as it is becoming increasingly plausible, they just hit themselves with a demographic gene bomb.

    • jim says:

      The data shows obvious indications of careless tampering. Some of the data is evidence of startling lethality, some of it, if taken at face value, evidence of improbable health benefits.

      As with any hostile witness, you look for inconsistencies that reveal what is denied.

      • Doom says:

        I’ve sent you some edited excels of the first dataset with weekly deaths as well as the reference table with table 9 adjusted to the full population.

        I’ve checked their figures between the two datasets and they’re broadly comparable (theres an extra month in ref table 31).

        I don’t see tampering per se, just improper measurement. They apply the person years ostensibly as a way to adjust for there not being a full year of data.

        However, this data would ONLY be useful in 1 years time, particularly if vaccination status was limited, ie, only 1/4 to 1/2 the population. Consider that in this time frame at least 80% of the 80+ population was vaccinated for most of the period. How do we draw reasonable conclusions without a control group?

        Not good statistics, Shaniqua statistics. What I’ve done to the “datasetfinalcorrected” I sent you,, with non-covid deaths directly compared to covid deaths, and vaccination rates is much closer to the way they should have presented this data. With that said, still hard to draw conclusions due to improper measurement of Covid deaths, no recording of co-morbidities and types, and the insanely fast vaccination rate.

        Looking at it though I do share your concerns on the young. The death rate on the vaxxed under 20 is much higher than it should be, especially considering the intervention happened within the data collection period.

        The size of the unvaccinated 10-14 group is huge – 96 deaths in the period from about 2.5 million.

        A mere 2000 have received two jabs, 4 deaths. THAT is a concern (like 50 times higher per 100k population like you note)

        Is there a connection? It’s hard to say. I think that’s why they would publish this data in this way, because it’s easy enough to pretend that the deaths are unrelated to the jab. (eg – the 10-14 year olds who received this had existing health concerns and their parents vaxxed them out of concern for them. They would have died regardless of the vaccine).

        If they had week endings like the datasetcorrected you posted the other day it would be harder to excuse the numbers away.

        • jim says:

          Table 3 could be analyzed for interesting data, because we see the unvaccinated group start off at 98% of the population, and then week by week data.

          But there is something mighty funny about that data, because the all causes death rate of population, vaxed, and unvaxed, covid associated deaths, and non covid associated deaths, declines improbably and dramatically, which I find hard to believe.

          I have one acquaintance who developed cancer shortly after being jabbed, another who is in a mental fog, and I hear (second hand data) that emergency rooms are flooded with strangely young heart attack and stroke victims. So I find this very hard to believe.

          • Arqiduka says:

            Yes, and Table 6 shows this in the clearest fashion.

            The non-covid mortality rate of the 18 – 36 unvaccinated cohort starts off equivalent to that of a 27 year old in the 2017 – 2019 tables (which is about average so believable) but than craters to a 17 or 18 year old mortality rate from April onward. Obviously ludicrous since the 18 is the least age in that cohort. So they have classified non-covid deaths as covid deaths, hence leaving improbably few of the former.

            More generally, when you apply the same test to all deaths (age-equivalence to pre-covid mortality, and see if the resulting age is within the cohort), you find that 47% of the datapoints for the “21 days or more after second dose” cohort are improbably low, along with 45% of datapoints for “Within 21 days of first dose” and a full 63% of datapoints for the “Within 21 days of second dose” cohort. These tell you where they have taken deaths from to chuck into the unvaxxed cohort (only 4% of whose datapoints are improbably low).

          • Doom says:

            The set I sent you first has tables 3 and 4 combined as well as a vaxed vs unvaxed percentage.

            Table 4 includes the covid related deaths which makes it much harder to interpret.

            Non covid mortality is much higher in january and it looks to me like as covid deaths increase, so too does the rate of all cause. Likely this is due to hospitals being unable to cope or just in general focusing on covid over other patients.

            EG, after January in the 80+ group, drops to around 160 per 100k and stays there.

            The 60-69 group is potentially instructive too; as they get more jabbed their death rate from covid drops to almost nothing, but starts to climb again come June. I (am biased lol) would attribute this partially to all the people vulnerable to covid death actually dying in January.

            Death isn’t other injury, either. Covid jab just adds a comorbidity, may not die of it. But if you have diabetes, heart problem, add jab.. likelihood of death any given day increases.

            I’d like to see the incidence of other disease. I would say that from this dataset, which is biased towards counting non-covid deaths as covid deaths, doesn’t seem to be a great increase in *actual death*.

            Iteration one of covid = attempted murder device, highly successful as per the data. The presentation of this data is likely an attempt to cover the excess deaths that were non covid related, while also shilling the efficacy of the vaccine.

            No control group = no result. Jab seems to make no difference in the under 60’s, which indicates lack of effect.

            BUT it’s early days. Keep your eye on the death rates in these age groups and see if it increases over the next 6-12 months.

            • jim says:

              Israel stopped publishing its death rate data shortly after it started jabbing.

              If someone is publishing their death rate data, probably fake.

              Search for indirect indicators, like life insurance and social security payouts.

              • Doom says:

                I think the strategy with this data set is over-sell the vax and undersell the effects of having a poorly managed healthcare system.

  30. notglowing says:

    No idea if this is legitimate, but supposedly from Ron Johnson:

    Haven’t been able to check it but it seems worth posting.
    Deaths may really be the tip of the iceberg.
    Though all of these numbers are relative, and a 5.5x increase in “chances of G-B syndrome” isn’t a very high chance. It’s still evident excess morbidity compared to the regular averages.

    Numbers such as infertility are more worrying, since that’s a bit more common than G-B syndrome to begin with.

    • notglowing says:

      Something about this letter reads like one of those notes you’d find lying somewhere in a videogame in order to explain the lore.

  31. notglowing says:

    If this is the Canadian government’s response to the truckers, it’s pretty pathetic

  32. Mike Thalassitis says:

    Joint Statement of the Russian Federation and the People’s Republic of China on the International Relations Entering a New Era and the Global Sustainable Development

    I haven’t read it all but there were already some good parts. Against US color revolutions.

    They start off stating that they are both pro-democracy, pro-UN, and that democracy is a human right. Then:

    A nation can choose such forms and methods of implementing democracy that would best suit its particular state, based on its social and political system, its historical background, traditions and unique cultural characteristics. It is only up to the people of the country to decide whether their State is a democratic one.

    Some actors representing but the minority on the international scale continue to advocate unilateral approaches to addressing international issues and resort to force; they interfere in the internal affairs of other states, infringing their legitimate rights and interests, and incite contradictions, differences and confrontation, thus hampering the development and progress of mankind, against the opposition from the international community.

  33. Karl says:

    I don’t understand your math that leads to your statement

    “Seven deaths of all causes per 100,000 person years for pureblood children ages 10-19”.

    Unvaccinated, age 10-14, 96 deaths in 2,094,711 person years means 96/20941711=5 deaths per 100,000 person years.

    Unvaccinated, age 15-19, 160 deaths in 1,587,072 person years means 160/1587072=10 deaths per 100,000 person years.

    This gives a total of 15 deaths per 100,000 person years for pureblood children ages 10-19, not 7.

    • Arqiduka says:

      You have to divide the sum of deaths by the sum of person years, instead of summing the already divided numbers. So, (96 + 160 deaths) / (2M + 1.6M person years) = 7 death per 100K person year.

  34. Arqiduka says:

    Some starting bits on your earlier link, specifically Table 4.

    It is easy to show that your chance of dying of anything at any point during the period covered in that survey if you are in the 10 – 59 years cohort are of 0.07% if you remain unvaxxed, rising to 0.08% if you take both shots per schedule, and increasing massively to 0.12% if you only take the first short and call it quits.

    For the other age groups, taking two shots seems to lower your chance of dying, but taking only one shot always increases your chance of dying of something during this time. Hm! maybe once that second jab’s data comes trhough it will show that after three weeks that one too again massively increases your chance of dying of something.

    Now, the obvious retort is that selection bias is at work, were healthier or younger people tend not to get jabbed, hence making it look as of jabbing kills you. I may check the disaggregated data if I get the chance to see if this holds, but as I said earlier for the 10 – 59 cohort this does not appear to be the case prima facie: there is no way to split that group into a healthy and sickly cohort that makes death rates behave better than they do.

    • Herman says:

      The only people that take the first shot, but not the second are people for whom the first shot has been so bad that they don’t want more.

      And people who have been crippled by the first shot have a higher probability of dying.

      So the assumption that the people who have taken the first shot, but not the second is a random subset out of the population does not hold.

      • Arqiduka says:

        That is surely part of the explanation, but there’s another factor at play: the mortality rate that emerges after 21 days of taking the shot is massively higher than the mortality within the first three weeks. And perusing the data of table 9 in the link Jim provides above shows that this keeps being the case with the second shot too, not just the first shot!

        Obviously no third shot was available when the data was compiled, hence saying that “those who got stuck with just two jabs were weaklings” makes no sense, and no selection effect happens between the “21 days from the second shot” to “more than 21 days after the second shot” since only time passes and you cannot stop people moving from one bucket to the next.

        And yet, Table 9 of the link Jim provided show mortality that is AT LEAST 61% HIGHER once 21 days pass form the second shot than within those first three week, at all ages!

        For some ages (10 – 19) mortality in infinitely worse, as no deaths within 21 days but many death after.

        Nothing at all can explain this.

        • jim says:

          I am pretty sure that data is fake. The New Zealand evidence shows big mortality bump within a week or so of the jab, and I think they were just covering it up in the British data by arbitrarily reducing the death count or reassigning the deaths to the unvaccinated.

          A huge and quietly admitted problem with the jab, albeit a lesser problem that the heart attacks that are flooding and overwhelming the ambulances and emergency rooms, is that if you get China flu on top of the jab, shortly after or shortly before, it is quite likely to kill you. Though such deaths tend to strangely re-assigned to heart failure or stroke, even though normally people who have been touched by the Awesome and Mighty Covid Demon shortly before they are run over by a truck are assigned to the Covid Demon.

          For people who have been jabbed a short time previously, there is an officially unofficial exception to the policy of assigning every death to Covid.

          This problem, China flu on top of the jab, is officially admitted. In many countries you are not merely exempt from the jab for three months after getting covid, but banned from the jab for quite some time, often three months, after getting China flu. Which does not help you if you get jabbed first, and then get China flu on top of that.

          And any data that fails to show this is just barefaced lying. It is a known, quietly admitted, and huge problem.

          You should see a whacking big bump in deaths attributed to Covid within 21 days of the jab, and if you are not, it is fake.

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