Art of War in 2022

War matters, so promoting this conversation to a post.

Mister Grumpus asks:

> The narrative is shifting to the Russians managing to muddle through anyway, and the blue-and-yellow Ukraine flags have all but vanished from Twitter.

Ukraine has been attempting World War I tactics, which worked great for a little while, but they are starting to run out of troops willing to fight. Currently it is World War I, which is a horrifyingly costly and destructive way of waging war, and the cost is biting both sides hard, but seems to be costing the Ukrainians worse.

The problem with World War I tactics is that they rely on the fact that frightened troops do not flee artillery bombardment, they dig in. Which prevents attempts to advance no matter how much artillery the enemy applies. But when you try to move those terrified troops from the location where they were being bombarded, to a new location, they are apt to dig in their heels once they have been removed from the old location on the front, where the enemy has become become tired of attacking, and are ordered to go to a new location on the front, where the enemy is, despite the great cost of World War I tactics, advancing. So the Russians are having success by endlessly, unpredictably, and unexpectedly, switching from one segment of the front to another. The Ukrainians are trying to reuse troops, which neither side was very successful in doing during World War I. World War I tactics use up, consume, and exhaust your army.

We are now seeing very large numbers of mutinies by Ukrainian grunts. We are also seeing a deep reluctance of officers to go to the front.

> Has Has the steady grind of Russian artillery fire and Ukrainian logistical disappointment undermined their Info Epoch Warfare? Pulled the plug on it somehow?

> What I no longer see is video of tanks driving around. That must still be way too dangerous with all those man-portable missiles out there.

> Maybe Info Epoch Warfare is still the winning ticket, unless your opponent (Russia) is happy to just shoot many thousand artillery shells and advance X yards per day, and can safely resupply themselves via a fully protected highway.

The Russian computer network penetration effort has failed. Their state level hackers just don’t seem very good at it. Compare and contrast the immensely successful network penetration by American Military intelligence.

Last time the I knew anything about what state level actors were doing, the US had massive penetration of everyone’s computer network, and the Chinese were starting, barely starting, to have some success in excluding them. The Chinese were not even trying to penetrate other people’s networks, though maybe they are now. I see no sign of it. They demand companies insert of obvious spyware in their networks, which is quite useless because if you know where the spyware is, you feed it bullshit and bypass it for what really matters, and they send spearfish emails, which get the same treatment if you try to spearfish someone with half a brain. Russian state networks were, and recently still were, wide open. If you cannot defend your computer networks, you probably cannot attack other people’s networks, because you cannot identify vulnerabilities. Russian response to identified vulnerabilities has been foolish and self destructive, covering them up rather than addressing them. One should pay the hacker if he shows you how he did it and helps you to do it to other people, and prevent other people from doing it to oneself, attempt to find him and harm him if he does not.

Russia has been vigorously attempting human penetration of Ukraine human networks, with surprisingly disappointing success. I am now coming to the conclusion that to do human penetration, you need a shared faith.

Stalin had a live state religion, so had immense success in penetrating human networks. Russia is making an effort to revive its state religion, but in the Ukraine, nonetheless has had poor success. Failed to properly utilize Old type Christians, who are being vigorously and murderously persecuted in the Ukraine. The Jesuits had and have immense success in penetrating human networks, though their inner religion now appears to be serpent Christ. The Alawites also had immense success, with an outer religion of Mohammedanism, a middle religion that has syncretic layers of Christianity, Zoroastrianism, and at its center, the inner religion, the innermost religion, a mysterious faith whose nature is alleged to be pagan, but who knows? Only them and God. The Alawites have been doing this for a very very long time, since at least anno Domini 1100, and the touch of Zoroastrianism hints that they may be descended from a faith immensely older. They have good human penetration and immensely good human security.

Looking at efforts at human penetration, look faith based. And because human penetration requires lying, demonic faiths have an advantage in penetration, though they have a disadvantage in preventing penetration. I don’t see any obvious demonic symptoms with the Alawites, but given their very good human security, I would not. Maybe their inner religion has good distinction between lies that can be told and lived without moral compromise, and lies that cannot. Or maybe it does not. Hard to know.

During two millennia of attempted, and sometimes successful, hostile entryism against Christian state religions, entryist groups concocted ever more elaborate systems of ideas and rationalizations so that they could say the right things, in a sense truthfully, but with the deliberately wrong meanings. Which seems odd. Why not just plain lie? Why do creeds and shill tests work? Why have they gone on working for millenia?

Just lying works for the individual, but for the group, not so much, because your agents are apt to become double and triple agents. The best liar believes what he says, so you need a lie that is fundamentally incompatible with the enemy faith, but whose fundamental incompatibility is subtle.

Information Epoch warfare worked great for Trump. It has not been working for Russians, but they are trying. Maybe they will get better. War is a stern teacher.

> Maybe the Bayraktar drones really can find and disable artillery pieces all day long, but Uncle Sam refuses to buy more because Turkish Man Bad. Heck if I know.

Drones are costing the Russians a lot, costing both sides but mostly it is not autonomous drones, but simply dumb drones in line of sight of their controllers, and for moderate range often directly above their controller at altitude (the Ukrainians claim to have a very substantial advantage in distance drone vision) looking down on artillery battles from above. The huge advantage of autonomous drones is that they extend the battlefield all the way, which advantage no one except Turkey has utilized. In the Information Epoch, the battlefield will soon be everywhere. In the Armenian war, the Azerbaijanis gained a huge advantage by extending the battle field all the way throughout the entire disputed territory. Well, time to dispute the enemy capital. Which the Russians have been trying to do, without a lot of success.

Both sides have autonomous long range drones, though I heard some whining from the Ukrainians that they are mighty hard to use autonomously. Autonomous drones had immense impact in the recent Armenian war. Maybe in this war both sides are finding them hard to use. Needs better UI, and better mission controllers.

In the Information Epoch, the military needs high IQ warriors. Maybe neither the Russians nor the Ukrainians have them.

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The Cathedral is also noticing us Hindu “reactionaries”.
https://www.bbc.com/news/av/stories-61610891

Via amerika.org

Globalist Power Terminated 2 says:

Absolutely BASED!

Red says:

Based Hindus. Take your nation and religion back.

Kunning Drueger says:

HERE LIES: [the latest Alt-Right project]

IT DIED OF: [voluntary interaction with known journalists]

Dear Lord, please send us leadership that isn’t so fucking susceptible to “””attention””””

yewotm8 says:

They’ll always be able to find a 16 year old who can’t help himself.

Kunning Drueger says:

I wish that was the case, but sadly Elite theory holds; the underlings don’t matter. It’s the leadership after they start to get a taste of influence, seeing admiring faces in room with more strangers than familiars, some thick of thigh & thick of mind brunette with librarian glasses and a high tolerance for whiskey, feeling like a big man but thinking like the internet shitlord they actually are.

I can’t go into details that prove my point directly, but I’ve seen it firsthand. I’ve been in the fucking room when someone gets snookered into divulging details, dropping names, sharing plans. It’s always an ego trip or a hardening dick, some fuckwit faggot high on his shit.

It’s going to happen here. If we ever step a toe out from the shadow’s shadow, some journalist is going to sashay in, all compliments and assurances. Someone needs to carry the banner of No Journos, Ever. No excuses or exceptions. The moment it is known, they are ejected, politely or otherwise. It’s kind of sad, really: leftist operations die from lack of engagement, and rightist endeavors collapse because of attention.

Red says:

>Someone needs to carry the banner of No Journos, Ever.

Fame attracts women, very hard for men to pass up on that. What you need is your own group of reporters working for your side. Problem is journalism is a money losing industry without state funding. Good propaganda is costly, but as the Nazis proved it’s worth it’s weight in gold.

Pax Imperialis says:

Slight caveat. There is no shortage of “reporters” working for any particular side. Propaganda is easy to heavily produce. The problem is with distribution.

Distribution is both costly and subject to censorship by the powers that be.

Murdoch Murdoch had surprisingly high production values all things considered. Getting it to the masses on the other hand proved difficult.

Walt Bismarch was also exquisite and clearly the product of love… It’s also gone from YouTube.

The problem isn’t that journalism is a money losing industry without state funding, there are plenty of true believers of any ideology to work for near free, the problem is that not all journalism can escape the current power.

The Cominator says:

I tend to imagine right wingers even if desperate for pussy are less likely on the whole to spill their guts to a pretty face than (non faggot) leftists are.

Far right wingers tend to be either womanizing chads (or former womanizing chads who are married and try not to humiliate the wife too much) or incels (or whoremongers). Neither group particularly trusts women in general very much and neither would be inclined to spill their guts to a strange one… both groups know that women lack loyalty and accountability* as men understand it.

The simps who trust women… tend to be the sexual success equivalent of midwits and they like intellectual midwits tend to be leftists or at least cuckservatives.

* Particularly accountability women can’t handle blaming themselves for shit going wrong in their own mind, women who fit the description of BPD I’ve known a couple very well… they are actually overly maligned but one thing different about them is they kind of lack the female rationalization hamster and DO realize eventually that the crazy self destructive shit and its consequences were the result of their own irrational inexplicable bad decisions… and this drives them more and more depressed and mad over time.

Adam says:

I agree. I would rather deal with BPD than NPD in a girl. At least with BPD they feel bad after. NPD is just straight evil no remorse.

The Cominator says:

Though headshrinker descripters are loose at best… girls who fit the BPD descriptor are also fun to be around when they ain’t splitting you black (and sometimes they are funny even then)… women are rarely funny or insightful but the two bpd girls i knew well… hilarious not a little funny one had me laughing pretty much nonstop for six hours straight.

NPDs which is more and more what a typical American feminist is like have no redeeming qualities.

Adam says:

Yeah. And with BPD at least they are aware they have a problem. With NPD it’s denial start to finish. BPD girls will have stretches of honesty mixed in there.

alf says:

Pax Dickinson wrote the definitive edition on how to deal with journalists. Unfortunately he wrote it on Social Matter so the article is dead. Buuut here’s a back-up. NRx gold.

Neurotoxin says:

alf, the link to Garden of the Internet is dead, both from Jim’s sidebar and the one at A Mari Usque ad Mare. Hopefully you haven’t been thoughtcrimed but are just changing some stuff.

alf says:

Just changing some stuff!

Neurotoxin says:

OK, good.

And yeah, the trolling of that “journalist” is one for the ages.

Cloudswrest says:

One of the best trolls of all time!

someDude says:

@Dharmic, I wanted to post this comment on your or Suones’ blog but could not do so as the comment section on WordPress is screwed up. I can’t actually see what I am typing since the comment space is too narrow in the vertical dimension. So I’ll post it here.

Let’s analyse the video
1. Self righteous looking Journo who no one heard of before: Check
2. Journo has a lizard face: Check (Reminded me of Audrey Truschke)
3. Brought out the obligatory Muslim Scholar who no one heard of before: Check
4. Trotted out a westernized Muslim Feminist who no one heard of before: Check
5. Talking about Feelz: Check

suones says:

This is a fake op. Like the “teenage Nazis” they used to parade who eventually “grew up,” hung up their swastikas and ratted out their friends, becoming “reformed”-Nazis and joining the talk-show circuit. Andrew Anglin was groomed for that path as well, but he turned out to be the Real Deal.

I’ll only believe it when someone comes to talk to me. And then I’ll not talk, ofc. As much as I long for my own paladin legions, priestly struggle has to necessarily come after military strength. Modi has launched full-scale into fixing the military first. Our time will come later.

jim says:

Not seeing your reasoning or point here. Christianity was a thing for a long time, and then one day Constantine, pissed because the priests of the official religion of his army were opposing him, an opposition likely to prove fatal for him, had his army march under Christian banners.

Kunning Drueger says:

I think at this point it is pretty well established that I have a lot of ideas about how we as a digital synthetic tribe should be doing concrete and shareable things, whether it’s a book or some other kind of project. I think it’s also pretty clear that, while there is General positivity to the ideas I put forward, it never goes much further than a comment and some daughter posts. For my own well-being, that is all I really need: I would hate myself if I didn’t at least share the idea, but if I share it and it goes nowhere, it’s not really on my head. It is definitely the case that if I actually want these projects to happen, I have to just start them, then see them through with whatever help I get. But I have enough going on IRL, too much even, that it’s not something weighing heavily on my mind.

All that being said, I still think we have a ton of brain power and literary capacity just sort of hanging out here, and it would be a shame if no crystallization or synthesis came of it. This is not at all to say that there is no value in the structure of discourse that is already occurring. Indeed, Jim making posts and the rest of us discussing it is fascinating, uplifting, and informative. That’s why he has the oldest active blog on the internet. But some part of me weeps for the young man 20 years hence who’s going to have to pile through this unbelievably massive source of material just to find a single through line.

Here’s a link of Auron MacIntyre having a discussion with Carl Benjamin, the internet personality formerly known as Sargon of Akkad:

https://youtu.be/oxj2UHwEH0k (01:40:38)

In and of itself, it’s quite interesting to see how this guy has changed over time. There’s a lot packed into this discussion, but I would like to focus on his response to MacIntyre when MacIntyre invites him to critique or comment on NRx as a group (01:19:25). Benjamin implores NRx to “get off the internet.” In the act of qualifying this admonition, Benjamin blithely States that monarchy will not just magically take over after liberalism goes away, and he asserts that whatever the post liberal order is, it will most likely be a synthesis of liberalism and whatever topples it.

Here’s the assignment: right at least two paragraphs in response to sargon’s assertion; state whether you agree with it or not, explain why you have taken this position, then summarize what the synthesis will be, or what the replacement that has no liberal synthesis will be.

The deadline for submission is the next assignment, so conceivably you have forever, but most likely a week or two. To make my life marginally easier, please only respond to this comment with your submission and post any responses to the idea, positive or negative, in a separate or different comment. Or don’t, I have literally zero enforcement capability in this situation

Kunning Drueger says:

I agree with Benjamin’s assertion because I think it is couched within historical precedent. Barring and invasion and occupation by an outside force that has no liberal tendencies or vestigial forms, whatever governance structure that arises to replace the liberal order will be a patchwork of various elements and factions from within said order. It is highly unlikely that there will be time or space for the New Order to drive every element of their governance structure X nihilo, so by necessity, they will be forced to use certain liberal forms.

The synthesis that replaces the liberal order will be contingent upon the ideology or structure that comes to inhabit the antithetical position in a hegelian framework. There are multiple ideologies and frameworks that can and do act as an antithesis the liberal thesis. Indeed, this diversity of sentiment is a part of how the liberal order maintains its position despite its overwhelming incompetence and sclerosis. Just as the synthesis that will replace the liberal thesis will be a hybrid that contains one or more antitheses, so too will be antithesis itself be in amalgam of the extent factions.

No single representative of the antithetical class has everything needed to take on, defeat, and replace the liberal order. We monarchists have the motive, but lack the means. Every antithetical faction is lacking in opportunity in the current year, but the Dynamics of the Holiness spiral means that the rare opportunities are about to become a lot less rare. Thus, whichever faction can find natural allies that hold the missing pieces will be prominent in the successor regime.

The most significant barrier facing each of the different factions of the antithesis is the hesitance or inability to compromise with any or all of their fellow antithetes. defection that can square this circle the most elegantly in the least amount of time will be the natural leader of the hybrid antithesis.

alf says:

But some part of me weeps for the young man 20 years hence who’s going to have to pile through this unbelievably massive source of material

I am making good progress on my answer to that problem.

kawaii_kike says:

I suppose I agree with Sargon, but I’m hesitant because I’m not sure where liberalism ends and post liberal begins. I think its most likely that one of the demon factions of progressivism conquers the others but it’s difficult to imagine a post liberal order that’s not insane but still to the left of NRx. I could see the head of the FBI or some other glownigger seizing power under the premise of saving democracy but would that be toppling liberalism or merely a continuation of the leftist onslaught?

The only prospects of a new order without liberal synthesis that I can see would be Warlord factions similar to China’s warlord era or NRx; I don’t see how anything else could topple liberalism and come out without its influence.

Vlad says:

Monarchy never coming back so many reasons.
Whites have stiff knees it’s no accident we are the people who invent democracy/ republicanism.

[*Cathedral payload deleted. Arguments that argue for your payload will be allowed through. Arguments that presuppose your payload while pretending to argue some irrelevant issue will be deleted.*]

jim says:

Yes, whites have repeatedly invented democracy, and are the only race that has seriously and effectively implemented it.

And repeatedly had disastrous moral and social decline leading them to repeatedly return to Kings and aristocracy.

We have been on this road many a time before.

Republics are always short lived, and their ending always terrible. The wheel of history turns, and it is now turning again, with the same causes as many times before leading to the same effects as many times before. We have been around this merry go round many times before.

The founding fathers analyzed past attempts, and thought they had a fix, but their fix proved to have the usual fatal flaw.

If you want to argue that it is different this time, I will allow that argument through and respond to it. Buy, being a shill, you would have to get approval from your boss, and the boss would have to get approval from Human Resources, who would probably feels that noticing white history is racially discriminatory, and presupposes the obviously heretical doctrine that we can learn from dead white males.

i says:

“Republics are always short lived, and their ending always terrible.”

I will have to quibble with that. Aristocratic Venetian Republic ran for approx 1000 years until Napoleon stopped that.

And Swiss Direct Democracy has quite a long run time with no apparent ill effects from within. Of course there is problems but the poz didn’t originate or run particularly virulent there.

The trick is that they are small scale and the people that make up them are relatively high quality.

jim says:

I allowed the leading fragment of your post through, because you led with a real argument, one to which your audience is likely to be sympathetic, but then, while continuing to supposedly argue for your purported thesis, you then proceeded to presuppose, as shared consensus, shared by everyone, a whole lot supposed reality, that we certainly do not share, and large part an official reality that scarcely anyone believes any more, that not only do we not believe, but normies do not believe either.

Except for the very first sentence, all your arguments that Kings are unlikely are not arguments that Kings are unlikely, but merely wagons to carry the actual payload, which is fake consensus, a consensus that even normies are starting to disbelieve.

Vlad says:

[*Formulaic script seen every second time a shill is called a shill*]

jim says:

Try making an actual argument. Or at least get a fresh script.

Vlad says:

I did you didn’t you simply deleted it. Try this.
Explain how you’re going to convince white conservative men that they should bend a knee to some guys calling themselves nrx because [*deleted because because a hostile misrepresentation of our position.]

Then explain how you’re going to convince serious Christian’s [*deleted, because a hostile misrepresentation of serious Christians*]

[*pile of stuff along the same lines deleted attacking Christianity, white people, us, and anyone who is not a typical dot Indian H1B*]

jim says:

Illegitimate methods of argument not allowed on this blog.

You can argue your opponent’s position implies things that are objectional, untrue, offensive, and absurd, or you can argue your opponent’s position presupposes things that are untrue and absurd, but you are not allowed to strawman their position. Still less are you allowed to strawman them merely for the purpose of spraying random insults in all directions.

Anon says:

Disagree with Sargon frame
He assume a frame of linear history which is a cathedral tenet (the progressive march for ever perfect/purer left) not gonna hold this against him, everyone is brought up with this thinking.
As jim fond of saying, paraphrasing, ” we have been on this road many time before” history don’t repeat but rhythm
Left become ever left until reach singularity, stalin arise and stop it, if lucky Caesar come before, worst case singularity continue until dark age with most people dead.
Wither the monarch is Caesar or general butnacked you will always get a strong man.
If the qustion what is the order after the singularity stoped?
Then this is interesting, here probably I will agree with sargon, if there is no alternative to post liberal order, stalin will rule with dead cathedral religion

jim says:

Stalin was huge improvement. The terror against the elite was necessary to end the terror against the people and the destruction of Russia’s productive capability. They call it the “Great” Terror, because they cheerfully forget the the Liquidation of the Kulaks.

jim says:

When people talk about Stalin’s great success in industrializing, they neglect to mention that in the events leading to the great terror, Russia suffered radical and rapid de-industrialization, and by 1940 Russia was only back to roughly comparable parity with the other great powers that it had previously had.

I suspect that this may well have caused the Rothschild bankruptcy and their resulting loss of power. The Rothschild financial strategy was to use their money and their depositor’s money to foment war and revolution, and use the resulting political power to gain control of other people’s money. Which strategy in Russia succeeded in gaining political power, but the resulting money failed to materialize. The plans of evil are often marred by evil.

A2 says:

See also, The Whig Interpretation of History.

Pax Imperialis says:

“Here’s the assignment” Christ, with that terminology (Military/DoD would say mission) you must be an academic or State Department (same thing really)! Kidding aside, I think Benjamin gets several major things wrong. This will be somewhat winding of a post for I’m drinking far to much again and have far too much time on my hands curtsy of covid (vax) complications. Hopefully it’s coherent.

NRx aligned views, at least in my personal experiences (as limited as they are) aren’t really internet dependent. Rather they seem to largely be concentrated among those in close proximity to power be it that they work for it or are the legacy inheritors. They are insiders… but also outsiders… Yarvin certainly was. How common that is remains a mystery, as real world data is scarce, but considering that Yarvin’s biggest public sympathizers appears in places like the Caremont Institute or Fox News (Tucker Carlson has the same education and social sphere of any normal swamp creature) which are legacy institutions closely tied to power… Hell, even the little that is known about figures like Michael Malice or H.E. Negash points to Cathedral proximity. I suspect that my suspicion is largely true. On a side note Sargon of Akkad always struck me as a pleb. Plebs are often virtuous and valuable to power be it a Cathedral like power or a dissident power interested in restoration, but they lack insight into the inner workings of power. Just how much Plebian intellectual influence existed in the restoration of Rome by the Caesars?

So Benjamin imploring NRx to “get off the internet” seems to start off at a false a priori. Not that it’s entirely wrong, just that the sphere of intellectual influence is overly vague if not entirely wrong in framing. The internet might be the main vehicle of communication, in much the way that the public forums of Rome were the main vehicle of communication, but that says nothing about the groups within the forums speaking to each other or what is happening under the surface.

A more correct version of what Benjamin should be saying is: “get away from (Cathedral) power.” Which is easier said than done especially if one is already submerged in it. Heck, even Benjamin as a YouTube personality is playing with power! Even more so if one is born into it as a legacy inheritor. What the internet did was allow NRx aligned voices to find out they weren’t alone. “Reactionary” views are fairly common in DoD (and I suspect in the wider government outside DC), but highly censored by both oneself and highers such that one can never know if such views are particular to oneself or indicative of a wider audience. The internet gave coherence to those ideas which gave them power in parallel to power. Telling NRx sympathetic to get off the internet is akin to stop contesting parallel power completely. Not too dissimilar to Yarvin advocating disengagement with power (the Cathedral), but it goes beyond Yarvin as to advocate not forming parallel power at all.

“he asserts that whatever the post liberal order is, it will most likely be a synthesis of liberalism and whatever topples it.”

This is perhaps the greatest point of disagreement I have. Regime change does typically retain aesthetics of the previous regime. Calling that a synthesis of ideology is wrong. Aesthetics are not the same as qualitative realities. The Roman Empire vs the Roman Republic both felt distinctly Roman in aesthetics. The mechanism of governance where completely different. Any such regime change in America or the wider west will be the same. The new regime will speak in much of the same terms as the founding fathers or western “liberalism” but share little in real operation similarity. It will fly the same flag with, hopefully, all 50 stars. It will sing the same songs of liberty and freedom. It will not have the same institutions of power. It will strive to achieve liberty and freedom in completely different methods.

Look at historical precedent. The antebellum America was distinctly different from post civil war America. Yet Americans still shared the same aesthetics and political language. The Russians of today still share many of the same aesthetics of the Soviet Union (some of those Russian Tankers drove into Ukraine with Soviet flags), but they are completely different in an almost diametrically opposed ways. Much in the same way that Orthodox Tsarist Russia was the complete opposite of Atheist Communist Soviet Union. “Monarchical” UK appears to share much of the traditions as the Magna Carta Libertatum England of old, yet in reality shares nothing. The French still sing!

“To arms, citizens,
Form your battalions,
March, march!
Let an impure blood
Water our furrows!”

That isn’t the France of today yet they still identify with it!

A sense of political continuity is often established by a continuity of cultural icons, but that shouldn’t be conflated with actual political continuity. Shared continuity of cultural iconography is often mistaken as a continuity of political structure. A most devious and useful psychological trick that any new regime should take advantage of!

So who are the American dissidents (and on a wider question, who are the western dissidents?)? Many see the rot of modern/woke/liberal society and political structure but love their cultural heritage, They love America/France/England/etc in the the vague yet definite cultural definitions of those nations. A Frenchman would be hard pressed to define what is French yet would always know it when he sees it much in the same way an American Judge once said he has a difficult time defining pornography yet will definitely know it when he sees it. These dissidents often hate and completely reject the political structure. They love their culture.

The new regime will not be a synthesis of liberalism and whatever topples it. Rather it will be a continuation of the underlying cultural iconography (political iconography may get carried over as well) with a seemingly diametrically opposing political system hidden underneath shared iconography that is falsely seen as continuation. Benjamin is mistaking far older cultural aesthetics with current day liberalism, but his culture’s aesthetics predate liberalism entirely as do the cultures of America/France/etc.

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The post liberal older will not be a political/religious synthesis of liberalism and whatever topples it, but it will have a shared cultural aesthetic that will give an illusion of continuity and thus an illusion of political synthesis. Something that any regime change should take advantage of.

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Hopefully this (short essay) didn’t come off as overly Jewish in semantics (I’m East Asian American I swear!), although I did go through and survived the heavily Judaically influence modern American academic system (Masters degree) so I might as well be a “Jew”… Drunk humor aside… I hope there were some useful insights in here. I’m rambling and I know it. Much thanks to spell checker.

Which reminds me of a previous point of discussion here about nothing of importance being taught in the university system for engineers (and technical fields in general). I was deeply depressed entering graduate school having to bury several close family members, and was basically an alcoholic drinking at least 6 high ABV beers a day and for the most part only attending classes for exams. I sometimes even forgot to show up for the exams as well… Still completed my masters program in a “top 50” public university engineering program. Still got a 6 figure before quitting it to go into the military. If memory serves me correctly Anonymous Fake was bitching about the academics system being unfair about how education doesn’t lead to good jobs. Academia is largely pay to win, and I’m sympathetic to those who were burned by that system. It’s horrifying we put such stock on a system that doesn’t really measure anything except willingness to pay.

If any of you ever end up enacting the new regime. I pray that you put an end to that atrocity.

Kunning Drueger says:

Considering the source material and responses further, it occurs to me that Benjamin’s assertion is predicated on the consistent occurrence of elements of the bureaucracy, sometimes quite large elements, pass through the Change more or less intact. This can be accidental, intentional, or even unavoidable, depending on the situation. For the most part, I think it’s laziness or cowardice or master procedural outcome manipulators doing what they do best: surviving. Who/what/whichever wins, if they truly wish to “break the mold,” will need to, above all else, break this cycle.

For the record, I am the first 101 level instructor at the nascent Antiversity. I’m the first one you’ll deal with before you get passed off into the rarified ranks of the anti-Masters.

Pax Imperialis says:

Institutions are people, The most obvious example is the Supreme Court where the difference of a single justice can sway the court and its culture. Suppose the hypothetical in which the court is stacked full of Alito and Thomas clones. Sure, the institution is the “same,” it’s still called the Supreme Court, it might even have a similar culture, but it would be such a large departure from current norms it would be something completely different. The equivalent nightmare example would be a court full of Kagan and Ginsburg clones.

“the consistent occurrence of elements of the bureaucracy, sometimes quite large elements, pass through the Change more or less intact.”

The men and women of the American bureaucracy of today are an highly insular and exclusive group. Exponentially so as you get closer to DC. These institutions from the outside are so massive and incomprehensible that they look like monolithic faceless gray suits. Dissidents are isolated and purged as we see with FBI and similar getting rid of conservatives. DoD reserves the purging for higher Officer ranks otherwise it wouldn’t have a military.

What would happen in any real regime change would be that the doors at both the low end and the high end gets opened up to all the previous undesirables (middle America). Just opening the door at the high end results in bureaucracy not following along with directives. Just opening the door at the low end results in your personnel never advancing into the heart of the organization. Opening at both ends allows the institutional heart to be outflanked and taken over because the high end provides political cover for the friendly low end to march through the institution.

Conservative presidents have made the mistake of thinking that the bureaucracy is just like the Supreme Court in that appointing at the very top level is all that’s needed to exert influence. Possible for an organization that is only 9 coequal big bosses and their clerks. Not possible for a multi million personnel government with an uncountable number of small bosses who effect day to day operations.

The crux of my argument is that most regime changes that appear to retain elements of the previous bureaucracy do so only in name and appearance. By the time most regimes fall, their bureaucracies have become highly insular and exclusive groups. Those groups get cracked wide open from the top and the bottom. The new people entering tend to have little to no respect for the old regime’s culture and values and ways to doing things. In America’s case, the new people that would enter given the chance absolutely hate everything about the current regime. They won’t get assimilated into the previous culture, rather they’ll make life so insufferable for the left overs of the previous regime that the remnants either defect or retire.

Imagine what would happen to State Department if all new entry level hires where good old boys from Georgia/Alabama/etc and all the top level appointments were also a bunch of good old boys from the South. Or in a more personalized hypothetical, imagine what would happen to a university if a new president fired all the deans, replaced them with (smart) hicks, and only hired hicks for the all new entry level positions. The hick deans would provide political cover for the hick assistant professors who mysteriously are the only ones getting promoted. Eventually the university becomes something completely different even if it’s still called a university.

Lets look at real world example of DoD (The Pentagon in particular). 1940s DoD had people like Curtis LeMay and George Patton. DoD in the 1940s was capable of indiscriminate mass killings. Today’s DoD has generals who personally travel to Afghan villages to apologize. They break down and cry in front of Afghans over accidental killings. There was a quiet regime change in the 1960s-1980s. There’s nothing that relates DoD of today to DoD of 1940 besides name and symbols. There’s another quiet regime change going on right now. Examination of KGB to FSB show much of the same level of disconnect even though FSB is thought of as just a reskinned KGB.

What we really see with regime change is:

“the consistent occurrence of aesthetics of the previous regime and bureaucracy, sometimes quite large elements, pass through the Change more or less intact.”

But those aesthetics do not reflect operational reality.

Kunning Drueger says:

All good points, and I will try to circle back and respond later, but I’m going to pull a nasty academic trick and reframe the discussion:

Benjamin’s core argument for the Liberal order persisting in some way in the new regime was predicated on the desire of the populace to retain the things they like (read: demand) from the old order. They won’t tolerate all of their rights (read: privileges) being stripped away, and the new regime will be strongly incentivized to acquiesce where necessary. Depending on how the regime change occurs, things like war weariness, personnel loses, or new geopolitical realities could effect the likelihood of this possibility. The new regime would be under pressure to bring in elements of the former regime to “consult,” and thereby keep the ghost of the regime alive. This is what happened to Trump’s regime, BTW. Indeed, this is how it works now; today’s civil servants are tomorrow’s consultants are next week’s civil servants.

There are probably other mechanisms by which bureaucracies propagate themselves through time, but this one poses an very real and substantial threat. Personally, I think a forceful paradigm shift is the best route, boldly and violently demonstrating that the new regime is completely unconcerned with whatever the dead regime was doing, and only cares about a set of narrow and deep concerns. This must be carefully balanced against the threat of accidentally spawning a parallel institution that could incidentally make the new regime redundant, but that’s probably a coup complete issue(s).

dumbassery says:

[*the shill tells us that shills always win*]

Red says:

With the J6 clown show trails failing(they stopped the hearings because it actually reduced support for the narrative) they’re probably going to make a second go at a Reichstag Fire false flag. Since the Feds still running the fake and gay “patriots front” all over the place, I’d wager they’ll use them for a mass casualty terrorist attack before the midterms. People are more likely to believe an established terrorist group rather than a brand new one no has heard of, hence why they’ve continued the operations despite everyone on the right calling them glowniggers and PF having been kicked out of any rightwing rally they try to march into.

Kunning Drueger says:

In the words of Bill Hicks: step on the fucking gas

Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

https://i.warosu.org/data/biz/img/0498/35/1655711016180.png

Looks like the act of powers that be that are desperate to keep their totem and the game of musical chairs it underlies propped up, but aren’t smart enough to really understand finance anymore. Cargo-cult economics.

Mr.P says:

$USD has been the recipient of The Great Liquidation in paper assets globally, that’s all. It’s toying now with long-term resistance, having “thrown over” resistance last week. Where $USD goes from here, who knows, probably up a little more then down hard now that Bloomberg is finally noticing and advertising what’s been obvious — $USD is rallying — for more than a year.

jim says:

People the world over are liquidating because insecurity. Seeing storms on the horizon, they want to be able to nimbly shift their assets out of the way of the storm (one of those storms causing me to lose a great deal of money). And the beneficiary is the most liquid asset of them all, the US dollar.

It abruptly became less liquid as a result of sanctions, and other assets are becoming more liquid as a result of people fleeing regulatory burden, but it still the most liquid asset in the world, and is likely to remain so for quite a while, even when its value radically and rapidly declines.

El Salvador is encountering the problems I foresaw with the lightning network – which problems are fixable due to the Bitcoin taproot upgrade, but when last I checked had not yet been fixed. It has to run on scriptless scripts implementing anonymous multi-Hop Locks, and it has to run a continual encrypted cloud backup, secured by your master password on your non cloud device.

And when last I looked, does neither of those essential and necessary things, without which Bitcoin is not yet in the necessary position to replace the US dollar. I still keep only insignificant amounts of money in the lightning network, and while I still recommend Bitcoin rather than Monaro as one of your major assets, am likely to soon move to Monaro – but Monaro is even less capable of replacing the US dollar than bitcoin.

jim says:

Bloomberg is a reliable source of bad financial advice. If they finally tell us it is rallying, the rally has likely reached the top.

Aidan says:

USD is rallying? Looks like it is cratering against everything that experiences stable demand. What is getting more expensive? People are buying the same amount of gas, milk, and cars as they always have. If USD looks like it is rallying against esoteric financial instruments, it is just voodoo to disguise the immanent collapse of the dollar.

jim says:

The US dollar is doing fine against other financial assets – which is to say, fine against my financial assets. But I think my financial assets are more likely to withstand the coming bad weather.

It is time for an assert preservation strategy, which for most people, means liquidate into US$. But, with the US$ cratering against everything that has real immediate value, such as milk and gas, I think that strategy normality bias. Which always gets you burned. At some point they are going to decide to get out of US$, and will find that any attempt to do so makes them hoarders, blackmarketeers, tax evaders, terrorists, and child pornographers.

Karl says:

At some point they are going to decide to get out of US$, and will find that any attempt to do so makes them hoarders, blackmarketeers, tax evaders, terrorists, and child pornographers.

Sure, but only those inside the USA. Most US $ are held outside of the USA.

Problem for those outside of the USA who want to get out of US $ is that they’ll need someone who wants to get into US$. Right now US $ is usefull for paying international invoices for goods produced outside of USA. That won’t last much longer. Then people will seriously want to get out of US$ and there won’t be much demand for US$ when it is only usefull for paying goods produced inside the USA.

Pooch says:

This presupposes those countries who want to exit the US Dollar can withstand US soft power and US hard power.

Russia was able to do it, but Russia has nukes.

Varna says:

India and Pakistan do too. I believe both even make their own cruise missles and sheit.

Although as this summer has shown so explicitly, we can never be too sure which parts come from where.

Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

The impression im getting is that big time bagholders in and around the circles of power are not buying USG futures because they expect the future of USD to be bright, but because the inner party network is talking them into it (or ‘talking’ them into it), in an attempt to make it look like things are still good and normal. ‘Do it for democracy.’

jim says:

I think it may well be less conspiratorial than that. People see bad weather coming, and normality bias persuades them that the US dollar is a safe haven, and if it turns out it is not, it will be easy and not too expensive to switch into something else. Always worked before.

Karl says:

Private housholds rarely buy USG futures. That stuff is bought by people managing other people’s money, assests of a company and the like. Anyone who manages assests he does not own first and foremost wants to be sure that he can’t be blamed for what he has done. Creating losses isn’t much of a problem if almost everybody else is doing the same.

Neurotoxin says:

Via Vox Day: Russia claims it has wiped out Ukraine’s General Staff.

Day links to this Russian-langauge site https://ria.ru/20220619/kalibr-1796549325.html Here’s the passage he provides in translation:

RIA Novosti. Russian Kalibr missiles struck a command post of Ukrainian troops near the village of Shirokaya Dacha in Dnipropetrovsk Region, killing dozens of generals and officers, Defense Ministry spokesman Lieutenant General Igor Konashenkov said. A working meeting of the command staff of the operational-strategic grouping of troops “Alexandria” was held there at the time, he explained.

“As a result of the strike more than 50 generals and officers of the AFU, including the General Staff, the command of the grouping of troops “Kakhovka”, airborne assault troops and formations operating in the Nikolaevsk and Zaporozhye directions were destroyed,” the general said.

Neurotoxin says:

Hmm, there’s some contesting from Ukraine about just what was hit and who was killed.

Meanwhile, also via Vox Day: UK military folks making noises about war with Russia. Holy freakin shit the entire western world is ruled by insane people. I mean we’ve all known this for years, but every now and then it hits you again:

Britain’s armed forces must be ready and willing to fight Russia in Europe, a former head of UK Special Forces warned today. [Sweet jumping Jesus.] General Sir Adrian Bradshaw, former director of Special Forces, said the UK must help Nato allies prevent giving Vladimir Putin ‘an opening’ to widen the war in Ukraine into a battle against the West.

The former senior officer’s intervention follows an extraordinary announcement by the new head of the British Army.

General Sir Patrick Sanders, who assumed overall command last week, warned soldiers at the weekend ‘we are the generation that must prepare the Army to fight in Europe once again’ as Russia’s invasion of Ukraine rocks global stability.

In one of Fraser’s Flashman books – talk about politically incorrect reading, BTW – Flashman is involved in the planning of the Crimean War. Here’s Flashman’s characterization of the days after England’s declaration of war:

“Well, here we are, the French and ourselves, at war with Russia… What shall we do, then? Better attack Russia, hey? Hm, yes. (Pause.) Big place, ain’t it?”

jim says:

> Hmm, there’s some contesting from Ukraine about just what was hit and who was killed.

We have Russian propaganda and we have Ukrainian propaganda.

But, when the Russians are on target, the Ukrainians need to conceal target confirmation, so will necessarily always deny. We know the Ukrainians would, for military reasons, not just propaganda reasons, deny.

Both sides are finally starting to figure out Information Epoch warfare. War is a stern teacher, but a good one.

My examination of the propaganda of both sides suggests that Russian propaganda consists of talking up small victories, and ignoring and rationalizing away defeats and failures without explicitly denying them, while Ukrainian propaganda contains a whole lot of flat out Baghdad Bob style blatant lying.

The Russians will attack, fail, fall back in good order, and report on their great successes in keeping good order in the face of Ukrainian advance and making the advancing enemy pay a heavy price when the enemy got careless. The Ukrainians will just flat out lie barefaced.

Kunning Druegger says:

How does Russia handle big victories? It may be wise to just pretend everything is business as usual, even if they did pull off a stunning decapitation. My thinking is such that if you stay quiet about your large accomplishments, the people around you, friend and foe, build the foundation for legends with no prompting.

jim says:

Well, they really have not had any big victories. Just quite a lot of small victories, which are slowly adding up. Quite slowly.

They concentrate their attrition in one spot, and the Ukes hold, but it costs the Ukes. Then they concentrate, unpredictably, in another spot, which forces the Ukes to move reluctant and exhausted troops around. And sometimes the troops being sent to the new spot decline to go there, and sometimes, not very often, the Uke line falls apart on the new spot, and the Russians grab a decent fifty square kilometres of so of not very valuable territory full of land mines and booby traps.

Most of the city of Severodonetsk, capital of the Luhansk district, was abandoned without a fight. Most of the troops that were supposed to defend it decided it was time to take a swim across the river, having received orders that inflicted a terrible cost one time too often. The loyalist troops rounded up a bunch of civilians as hostages against the Russians, and are currently holed up in the massive reinforced concrete chemical plant, which is hard to shell to bits, and the Russians are reluctant to shell it to bits because of the hostages, and they are also reluctant to try to press an advance with hostile troops behind them that might take advantage of difficulties during the advance to stage a breakout. So they are just waiting for the troops in the factory to get hungry, which will take a while.

As victories go, well it is a significant victory. Except they still have a heavily armed nest of enemy troops with civilian hostages inside the city.

A2 says:

That last part appears to be medieval siege warfare. It even seems unlikely the besieged will sally out or otherwise try to break the siege. So bottle up the fortress, wait them out and move on with the rest in the meantime.

Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

Even if they are overestimating the extent of the damage inflicted, the very existence of such propaganda likewise says that they are placing an emphasis on finding and exploding hostile agents responsible for organizing enemy groups in the first place.

Good.

Neurotoxin says:

Oh no! You might think that Putin’s invading Ukraine was the worst thing ever and makes him the ultimate nazifascistnazi, but it gets even worse!

Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton says Russian President Vladimir Putin “was very sexist” toward her during meetings.

– recent Business Insider headline.

God, these people.

Adam says:

“He didn’t give me enough attention “.

The Cominator says:

Good news.

dumbassery says:

Who, specifically, is on the UA general staff? [*tedious repetition of variants of the same question deleted*]
These are all specific questions with specific and verifiable answers.[*deluded accounts of propaganda tactics deleted*]

jim says:

The Ukrainians have sufficient, or have suddenly acquired sufficient, competence in Information Epoch warfare to make sure that no one can find the specific answers you demand. If they were verifiable, a whole lot of the Ukrainian general staff would be dead, and if the Russians know the answers, they are unlikely to reveal their knowledge, because it would instantly become useless the moment Ukrainians knew that they knew.

The questions to which you demand answers to are likely to be answered by explosions in the theater of war.

Varna says:

Footage from Melitopol, June 21st. Dude driving around, explaining some changes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krKprwyl6aU
New online providers, new phone providers, new passports, new books in the central city library, local geezers can apply for a Russian pension starting July 1st.

Footage from Mariupol, June 15th. City got it bad but the worst is now hopefully behind it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UV5_pK8BjY8

Kherson, from 1.5 months ago, freshly after its taking
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_2bxCIqa0c
Voiceover (pro-Ukr) mentions regular protests by city folks, broken up by Russian national guardsmen. Sad, but better than guerilla warfare by any measure.

Kherson, June 21st
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=682n1RJf_4A
Some lady makes vids about her city, defiantly refusing to admit a war is happening. Musing about random courtyards, cherry trees etc.

Ukrainian TV, June 17th. About the cities and towns just on the verge of possibly being taken by the Russians.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Vo-a_XM4nI

Also Slavyansk, June 20th.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fik0_466cnM

In these towns, villages, and cities near the front, life is crappy. Problems with water, electricity, number of functioning ATM’s dwindling. The local mayors and governors report on what they manage to fix, what they can’t.

When you listen to the Ukrainian TV, you see and hear obvious Russians speaking obvious Russian. These places were obvious Russia for Napoleon, for Hitler, for the Cold War adversaries back in the day. You ask any cold warrior in 1984 is Kiev Russian they’ll say of course and we should nuke it.

How is all of this possible? Mindboggling.

Pooch says:

How is all of this possible? Mindboggling.

Don’t underestimate the priestly classes’ ability to meme things into existence. Have been doing it for time immemorial.

Red says:

Watergate was a CIA op against Nixon:

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2022/06/20/watergate_at_50_revelations_from_newly_declassified_evidence_147766.html

I think most people here knew that here since the story never passed the sniff test but it’s still good to see it documented.

The Cominator says:

Did anyone ever doubt this with the Washington Compost being so heavily involved?

Mike Thalassitis says:

Looks like I’ve finally caught corona. I remember there were comments on here talking about dosages of Ivermectin as well as some other things like Vit D. I can’t seem to find it right now, so can anyone please link me or give me a quick rundown?

I have 12mg of Ivermectin, and could probably order more to arrive in 2 days. If that’s not enough, I’m wondering the best way to split it amongst myself, wife, and kids (all under 5 years old). Wife is breastfeeding, can she take Ivermectin or not?

Albert says:

Simple instruction for Ivermectin:

https://www.barnhardt.biz/ivermectin/

jim says:

He says twice a week, but I, looking up different sources, took one slightly higher dose, once. Worked immediately for me.

I also read that its effectiveness is substantially reduced after you have been sick for four or five days, and the effect on blocking viral entry lasts a lot longer than four or five days. After a week or so, your immune system is already mopping up the offspring of viruses that attempt to replicate, but they are still safe in the nucleus of your cells causing problems. It blocks entry, after a few days, the immune system takes care of exit. But your best solution is not letting them into your cells.

jim says:

I may be a golden pure blood. Following a social function after which a lot of those who attended tested positive for Covid, I got weepy eyes, a running and partially blocked nose, mild sneezing, and a slight sore throat. I immediately took a single dose of horse paste containing 20mg Ivermectin. In two hours my symptoms were largely gone, and when I woke up in the morning, completely gone. (You have to take it immediately, so don’t wait for testing. It will have little or no effect if taken three or four days after the onset of symptoms, because the virus will have already entered the nuclei of large numbers of your cells and large amounts of spike protein will have already entered your circulation. Don’t take a second dose until at least a couple of weeks have passed. A single dose has effect that lasts for quite a while.)

I took no other medications, other than that I routinely take large amounts of vitamin D, vitamin K, and a balanced set of divalent salts including zinc, which may well have protective effect. Given the association between Covid and demon worship, the power of Christ may well also have protective effect. Though, of course, one of the mechanisms through which the power of Christ acts is that the power of Christ protects one from mind control, which results in one having horse paste in one’s fridge.

> Wife is breastfeeding, can she take Ivermectin or not?

Ivermectin is not known to be unsafe for infants, but I researched its mechanism extensively when it became apparent that it was a highly effective mechanism against the awesome might of the awesome and mighty Covid Demon.

The interesting thing is not why it is so effective against a very wide range of hostile parasites that have very little in common, but why it does not kill higher animals. It disables several cellular pathways that sound as if they should be extremely important, thus killing a strangely wide range of hostile higher organisms, and stopping viruses that make use of these pathways dead in their tracks. But why does it not harm us, or indeed most higher animals? Maybe higher organisms have other pathways that accomplish the same result by other means.

It has been around for a very long time, and is not known to be unsafe for infants, so it is probably OK.

Drien says:

What is the story on HCQ? Is that still considered good?

jim says:

HCQ good, but the evidence is that ivermectin has similar results and is more effective.

They have different mechanisms of action, so the two of them together are likely even more effective, but there is not much evidence on this.

Ivermectin does what it does so extraordinarily effectively as to render HCQ irrelevant, and neither of them is very effective unless taken as soon as possible. A week or so after infection, both of them are useless. Immediately after infection, ivermectin is immediately and totally effective, HCQ is merely very helpful.

Red says:

My brother in law felt better the next day after taking Ivermectin on his 3ed day of being sick. I personally couldn’t kick the WuFlu until I doubled up the recommended dose on day 3 after having taken the lower recommended does + zinc on the first 2 days. I felt much better just hours after the double dose and I stopped taking it. More is probably better. Though I wasn’t 100% sure I had covid the first day I felt sick.

My recovery was bit longer because I didn’t nuke the WuFlu right away. I was seeing racing heart rates for a couple of weeks so I stopped working out until that went away. A gym buddy mine caught it and had brain fog and lightheadedness for a couple of weeks after. He also stopped training until he felt more normal.

Karl says:

Here is an overview of treatments

https://swprs.org/on-the-treatment-of-covid-19/

MarkMark says:

My whole family and I also just got the China Flu last week. Unfortunately we were on a roadtrip and didn’t have Ivermectin on hand and now I assume it’s too late to take even if we could find it. We’ve moved from the fever stage to the fatigue/winded when walking around the house stage. To be frank this is getting pretty disturbing. Any advice on extricating this demon very welcome!

Varna says:

Sanatorium lifestyle for as much as possible + prayer + liquids and porridge + no forcing self to be physically active too soon + taking lots of mini-breaks + total brain and eye rest, meaning all screens. Simple positive stuff from a couple of book pages and that’s it. Lots and lots of sleep.

This is advice for all mega-flu events not just the kung flu. Swine flu 6-7 years for example ago hit some people pretty bad, some badder than covid.

Often, a crisis is an opportunity. Getting hit by a bug means also getting rekt and then building self back. If you manage the building back of self smartly, the new built back self may actually be a bit better than the pre-rekt one.

jim says:

Fatigued and winded indicates massive blood coagulation. You need the D dimer test, and you need your blood examined under a microscope.

Covid and vaccination produces huge numbers of tiny blood clots, which can slowly aggregate into massive blood very low density blood clots, that can kill you when exercising. The tiny blood clots, of course cannot be detected by MRI, and the massive blood clots, being generally low density, are very hard to spot on MRI. Also, they are not that common, though they are probably the primary cause of the supposedly mysterious outbreak of sudden adult death syndrome.

If D Dimer test shows alarming levels of blood clotting, doctors are likely to try to push you into getting MRI. Don’t. This indicates the doctor is hostile, since the primary purpose is denial. MRI shows negative, therefore, the medical profession proclaims, the other tests were false positives. Obviously if a microscope shows large numbers of tiny clots, you are in big trouble, and if the doctor wants an MRI, it is because acknowledging your trouble is likely to get him in trouble.

A doctor can lose his license, because noticing blood clotting is “unnecessarily creating patient anxiety”, therefore is medical malpractice. They are really cracking down very hard on noticing or acknowledging this problem.

The MRI is just to deny something the state and medical profession wants very hard to deny.

It seems plausible that anti coagulants can cure it, but there is extreme reluctance by the medical establishment to investigate, because the investigation would implicate them in enormous crimes.

Aspirin is moderately safe anti coagulant. Take regular doses of aspirin at the maximum safe level for prolonged use. Vitamin K antagonist anti coagulents are more potent, but only available on prescription because potentially quite dangerous.

You will not get any immediate relief from aspirin, because it will take a while for your red blood cells to regenerate, and for the microscopic clots to be cleaned up out of your circulation.

jim says:

Aspirin will not have any immediate effect on your fatigue, but in theory it should facilitate recover over time as your red blood cells regenerate. A lot of females have low iron, which slows red blood cell regeneration, but this problem is rare in males, who usually suffer from excess iron.

Wulfgar Thundercock III says:

Nicotine and alcohol help with recovery, as well, correct? I seem to remember those being touted as helpful in degrading the spike protein, which stays after the virus proper is gone. Some moderate alcohol intake and either smoking cigars or nicotine pouches might help. Unfortunately I cannot make personal recommendations because when I supposedly got covid I was back in action in just a few days without doing anything but eating well and sleeping.

Kunning Drueger says:

My family can’t figure out if we’ve gotten the coof or not during this whole fiasco. We’re all purebloods (the ones I own) but the greater cluster is vaxx’d, and they’ve all been kissed by the demon at least twice.

Guy says:

My family finally got it a few weeks ago, only know because my son was running a fever and got him tested for everything. I actually got sick, which hasn’t happened in many years. Got very feverish, lasted a day and a half, felt crappy the rest of the week.

I was shocked by how sick I got for that day and a half, and can imagine the weak and old dying from it. But all in all it wasn’t worse than the fIus I remember getting as a young kid.

The Cominator says:

Nicotine blocks the ACE2 receptor which at least limits vax damage from the spike protein…

I do not know how alcohol is supposed to help.

Ctsaxton says:

Aspirin disables platelets (which have a ~7 day lifespan and ~1day half-life iirc), mildly preventing clots. Nattokinase is a fibrolytic that acts on multiple pathways and strongly dissolves clots. Much better safety profile (otc, no common side effects) than e.g. warfarin.

Anecdotally, I used to have ‘clot-like’ symptoms, especially after traveling and especially after eating sugar/gluten. Strange traveling pains in limbs, often moving to chest/head/stomach. Aspirin helped a little, maybe. 100mg Nattokinase would completely resolve symptoms. After 6 months of regularly taking nattokinase, symptoms faded, only coming back occasionally after a long flight.

I recommend it to covid patients in particular. Fibrolytic effect is said to peak ~12 hours after ingestion.

Tech Priest says:

Vitamin D does rather better in observational studies than in RCTs. One possible reason for this is that sunlight may be strongly beneficial through some mechanism other than making vitamin D, but the vitamin D is showing benefit in the observational studies as a proxy for sunlight exposure. In which case getting some sun exposure would be a good idea.

A2 says:

Our Star Prophet Elon Musk (praised be) divests the LGBT department of Tesla.

https://electrek.co/2022/06/20/tesla-lay-off-head-lgbtq-diversity-elon-musk-woke-mind-virus/

Casualties among the perverts include one “senior software engineer in charge of naming conventions in Tesla’s vehicle UI team”. Rocky times ahead for Tesla, one supposes.

Mister Grumpus says:

I can’t even tell if it was a real SpaceX “department”, or just volunteers trying to meme their commissarhood into existence.

jim says:

“Senior Engineer in charge of naming conventions” is means “not an engineer, and probably incapable of doing engineering, but assigned an engineering job title for political reasons”

Kunning Drueger says:

Re-floating this topic from down thread. These are some thoughts on the petroleum industry in particular and nuance and detailed understanding in general.

The opacity of unfamiliar entities

Oil industry isn’t monolithic

Entertainment is not Hollywood

Serious people must discard easy assumptions and accept the ubiquity of nuance.

If anyone can provide insight from first hand experience or familiarity with the petroleum industry, don’t hesitate to smack me down and call me stupid; I always appreciate gaining perspective and resolution. My experience with the industry comes from an outsider perspective. I’ve spent time in oil country in TX and interacted with a few mid-level engineer types. I’ve also read a lot of Zeihan, and petro-chemichal is something he focuses on.

We often only hear about the super majors and conglomerates, but the industry is actually a massive ecosystem with companies and firms of diverse size. The fracking revolution stems from silicon valley teaming up with technical/engineering schools paid for by venture capital and oil companies. Lots of different, highly specialized software, complicated and secret technologies, and commercially intersectional interests go into the extraction process. If you count all the associated parts, it’s almost a nation into itself. For instance, Halliburton specialized in the boring, unsexy infrastructure and logistics of the industry, like cafeteria workers and janitors as well as transport and maintenance, which is why they got bought by KBR and why they were basically the only company who could even try to fulfill the contracts established by USG in Iraq. The point being, it isn’t a monolithic entity. There’s probably just as much ideological diversity, competing interest, and conflicting goals as a whole State. And like a State, there are security and intelligence outfits all over the place, from site security (mall cops) to CSuite executive protection to green beret style “force multipliers” and special forces.

I wate all these words in an effort to admonish my fellow posters: don’t fall into the trap of letting ignorance of a thing generate a low resolution, high contrast mental model. It is exceedingly rare for any social construct, like companies or cities or nonprofits or trade lobbies, to be monolithic in composition or purpose. That’s TV bullshit. Speaking of TV, it really grinds my gears when fellow conservatives reference “Hollywood” in the same way the reference the State Department or the DNC. While those two definitely have substantial unity of purpose, this is an emergent property that arises from the Cathedral apparatus chugging away for decades. In truth, Hollywood is only one facet of the hydra that is commercial entertainment. The studio system is big and influential, but if you dig down and get familiar, just like every other element of the GAE, it’s a multitude of factions, cults of personality, and self serving shekel snatchers. They may signal the same message when forced to, but it actually requires the hardcore priests to put in massive effort to keep everyone “on message.”

I’m not trying to advocate for, rationalize away, or justify the industrialized evil that is entertainment, or governance, or anything else in our late stage empire. But I implore you to look close and expect nuance, because opportunities, exploits, and fault lines abound, and the potential for disruption is surprisingly high, and getting higher as the woke minority grows ever more rabid and reckless.

Anonymous Fake says:

The fracking revolution effect has never been seen anywhere else. America is unique for being a major oil producing nation stretched across a continent that rejuvenated and in fact enhanced its oil production generations after its peak. For any other big player, when they hit peak oil it’s all over.

I doubt technology made any difference because it would work anywhere, and hasn’t. The more likely explanation is that American boomers really were a dud generation, and later generations really are an improvement. The boomer phenomenon isn’t seen outside of America so there is no inexplicable industrial recovery waiting to be seen.

This is more evidence that more value added industries actually are being held back by the government, mostly as a result of a lack of tariffs and lax regulations that reward stock buybacks instead of long term capital investment.

jim says:

Fracking has been completely effective anywhere and everywhere the world with a high IQ population, many high IQ tech firms in the oil industry – often firms that are in multiple high tech fields unrelated to oil, and a government that is not aggressively trying to strangle fracking in its cradle.

High technology cannot be implemented by anyone anywhere, because it requires high smarts and high cooperation between smarties. You are speaking out of priestly ignorance, contempt, and hostility for the high tech priesthood.

Because fracking requires a lot of money, it is extremely vulnerable to government sponsored attacks from the officially unofficial state Church, which is hostile to it because they see a competing priesthood, a tech priesthood, getting rich.

Pooch says:

Because fracking requires a lot of money, it is extremely vulnerable to government sponsored attacks from the officially unofficial state Church, which is hostile to it because they see a competing priesthood, a tech priesthood, getting rich.

In my class dichotomy, tech and engineering is thoroughly Warrior class. Problem solving, building things with your hands, the physical world, strategizing, etc this is all the domain of the warrior. An engineer is Warrior mindset sans the violence. It’s no coincidence that farming has been the historical peace time activity of the warrior. It’s the same mindset.

Priests build memes and ideas and never actually tangible in the physical world. So to me when the state Church attacks fracking this is the priest class attacking the warrior class.

jim says:

Priests of the officially unofficial religion see us as competition, and their perception is not entirely inaccurate.

Stallman’s build tools and environment (gnu), Linus’s git, and Moldbug’s Urbit, are all software instruments for a social vision. Those tech tools are the product of tech priests.

An engineer who is just wrestling with code and algorithms, definitely akin to warrior class. But algorithms blur over into factoring the problem, which meets the issue of large scale cooperation through discussion, which is definitely a priestly endeavor. Notable tech priests are or were Richard Stallman and Linus.

People had been farting around for a long time on the problem of creating a free open source unix. It is often said that Linus created Linux. Lots of people created Linux, notably Stallman, but what Stallman created was held back by reliance on enemy source control tools and enemy controlled kernels. What Linus created was git, an instrument of cooperation between engineers, and the system of social organization for using it, which instrument he applied to cause a lot of engineers working at cross purposes to work together to create linux.

Linus saw that gnu needed its own kernel, and was working on it, among others, when he realized that enemy controlled source control tools were getting in the way of those trying to create an open source kernel on which to run Gnu tools. And he then created git, and everything came together.

Unfortunately this instrument is extremely vulnerable to hostile power, and both Linus and Stalman were recently defeated as priests. It presupposes a friendly well intentioned internet. Under attack, it fails in a wide variety of ways. We need will need to build a new git on top of a new social net. I have already envisaged the model for cooperation using it, but my social net is just a radically incomplete collection of tools, and fairly complete collection of ideas. I hope to whip into shape where it runs enough for another people to help out fairly soon – which is well short of running enough to be useful to the masses. Moldbug is another tech priest, and he is way further ahead with his implementation for a social net than I am (Urbit). But his social net is very much designed to be less threatening to power, and he is attempting to cooperate with hostile forces (Ethereum), which attempt has induced an irritating flaw. He should have inhoused the money system, or bitcoin based it, or any non scam coin except ethereum.

In the world of the internet, like the world of fracking, the problems of technology and of large scale cooperation overlap massively. And priests of the official priesthood don’t much like our solutions.

We need an instrument of cooperation, social, algorithmic, and instantiated as computer code that not only helps friendly smart cooperative people cooperate, but enables them to cooperate in the face of cohesive enemy groups that do not want them to be able to cooperate, with whom any attempt at compromise, cooperation, and a mode of living where each group is able to go about it is own business, is unlikely to succeed. An instrument of cooperation capable of operating in a state of Information Epoch warfare.

Mike in Boston says:

Moldbug is another tech priest, and he is way further ahead with his implementation for a social net than I am (Urbit).

I doubt whether Yarvin has any more involvement with urbit. Back in early 2019 he wrote:

After 17 years, I’ve left the Urbit project.

I’ve resigned as CTO, board member, and voting shareholder of Tlon (Urbit’s corporate sponsor). I’ve also reassigned my personal galaxies to urbit.org (Urbit’s embryonic foundation, still in Tlon’s custody).

My family still has a few thousand Urbit stars (in long timelock contracts), plus a nonvoting minority in Tlon. This isn’t authority, just compensation: I have zero central power over either Urbit or Tlon. Nor will I contribute code to Urbit, nor write nor speak publicly about it. I am actually done here.

So in my mind I don’t consider Urbit an asset for our side anymore, and that made me lose interest in constantly nursemaiding an Urbit node through the neverending cycle of crashes and upgrades.

jim says:

When you need a great many people cooperating to do something, it is apt to turn into a priestly and religious endeavor. The priestly nature of Stallman’s gnu and gnu autotools is obvious. Autotools attempts to address the social problem that Linus, linux, and git successfully addressed, but it was predicated on running on a hostile closed source operating system and hostile closed source source control software. Which closed source source control software bit Linus, so he wrote his own, structured around his priestly social vision, while Stallman and company allowed the social vision of the enemy source control software to be imposed upon them.

Pooch says:

Communication is definitely the domain of the priest but in the context of building and abstracting a shared morality for a given society. What is the morality of the tech priest? If no shared morality, not a priesthood.

Adam says:

As far as open source- “Information wants to be free”.

jim says:

Stallman used to rather regularly give us lectures on morality, though as woke became increasingly vigilant, he shut up.

test says:

Not every guy with opinions is a “priest”. Stop abusing that word.

Tech people and engineers are neither “priests” nor “warriors”. They are bourgeois. Or “merchants” if you like that better.

jim says:

Every knowledge faction that generates consensus in order to make its memes more believable, functions as a synthetic tribe, and organizes to propagate its memes, is a priesthood.

Every knowledge worker who is trying create a systematic structure of people on his memes, a synthetic tribe, even if he has not got a decent faction around him yet, is a priest.

Linus did not create linux. He created structures, customs, and ways of doing things that enabled a very large group of people to cooperate to create linux. So, Linus is an engineer priest, as a paladin is a warrior priest.

Pax Imperialis says:

There’s just so much obviously wrong in so little writing I’ve got to congratulate you for succinctness. I would certainly benefit from succinctness.

“The fracking revolution effect has never been seen anywhere else.”

It almost as if there is a massive political organization built on preventing oil production in the west. The Greens do quite well politically in Europe.
https://www.cleanenergywire.org/news/fracking-still-not-option-germany-says-econ-and-climate-minister

Many oil producing countries are also capable of fracking. They also have large traditional oil reserves so why retool to fracking?

“America is unique for being a major oil producing nation stretched across a continent that rejuvenated and in fact enhanced its oil production generations after its peak.”

Does Russia ring a bell?

“For any other big player, when they hit peak oil it’s all over.”

Potential oil and gas from fracking likely exceeds what was available from traditional oil drilling.
https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Map-of-48-major-shale-gas-basins-in-32-countries-Source-US-EIA-106_fig3_262732737

“I doubt technology made any difference because it would work anywhere, and hasn’t.”

You are conflating the technology not being used with the idea that the technology does not work. That like saying “I doubt nuclear bomb technology made any difference because it would be used in all wars, and hasn’t.”

“The more likely explanation is that American boomers really were a dud generation”

Sure… there’s an argument to be made there

“, and later generations really are an improvement.”

But that is plain ridiculous. Not even the boomers decided to castrate their boys. That’s on millennials and zoomer generation.

“The boomer phenomenon isn’t seen outside of America”

Angela Merkel, Boris Johnson, etc look and behave just like American boomer politicians. Boomer culture got exported post WW2 via Hollywood and US occupation. Boomer phenomenon is global. Cola is global.

“there is no inexplicable industrial recovery waiting to be seen.”

True not because there aren’t any boomers. True because of the boomers and the woke children they raised who are against industrial recovery.

“This is more evidence that more value added industries actually are being held back by the government”

Governments explicitly say they are holding back industries

“mostly as a result of a lack of tariffs and lax regulations that reward stock buybacks instead of long term capital investment.”

Forget tariffs if you can’t even do business in the first place. It’s the government regulations that prevent many business from operating in the US in the first place. The endless shakedowns. The endless environmental impact surveys. The never ending undermining of companies via HR and unions backed by government. The high corporate tax rates. Does any of that look like lax regulation?

Why should companies invest for the long term if they don’t even know if the government will permit them to exist 10 years from now? Might as well get everything of value you can in the short run.

Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

>Government is holding business back-

Oh?

>-because they’re not Micromanaging it enough!

Lol, there it is.

Pax Imperialis says:

Recognizing and studying nuance is important for understanding how the world works. There is academic and business value in that. The political value is fuzzy for several reasons.

Good governance requires decision capable individuals calling the shots in an orderly and timely manor. Getting caught up in nuance slows the OODA loop. That can be a good thing, we want our justice system to fairly consider nuances and not get caught up in manias and public frenzies. We also don’t want our justice system considering nuances to such an extent that it takes decades to come to a ruling. The rejection of nuance we see today is largely in reaction to too much nuance being considered. A good example of this is the transsexual debate where all of society is being torn up over a population that in reality is very small such that most transsexuals are not actually genetically transsexuals, but are confused individuals caught up in the social frenzy.

The masses are not capable of nuance. Governance must take that into consideration. The world might be full of gray zones and indeterminate realities, average human psychology is largely not. The percentage of the population that is capable of swimming between black and white, 1 and 0, is already small. The percentage of those comfortable with swimming in the gray zone is even smaller.

Conservatives will either destroy Hollywood and salt the ground, or they will not. There is no in-between for political actions of that magnitude. Trying to surgically cut out the malignant parts of Hollywood would take too much time, would likely kill Hollywood anyways, and would give time for Hollywood to politically resists the entire process which would likely mean an end to the surgery. See what happened when USG tried to surgically remove the communists from Hollywood. It failed.

There is a way of “retaining” Hollywood without destroying it via a complete hostile take over. All the studio directors would have to be removed and replaced with conservatives. All new hires from the cameraman to the writers have to be conservatives. But that basically kills Hollywood anyways, but gives an illusion that it still exists and thus a sense of legitimacy. It’s also far more costly than simply razing Hollywood to the ground and starting over. Both methods have merit.

Serious people must discard easy assumptions and accept the ubiquity of nuance, but they must also promote easy assumptions and deny the ubiquity of nuance when it comes to politics.

Kunning Drueger says:

I reeeally wish Jimscord (Jim+discord) was a thing, because I want to debate/discuss with you over VC.

Don’t hear what I’m not saying. I pray GNON makes me the knife that guts Hollywood. Further, nuance is not an excuse for inaction. You and I are in a trench, waves of Brits and Frogs are charging us. Pooch is banging away on the air cooled while Com feeds him belts. Wulfgar is doing something with a sword while St. John is poking holes in Progressive molds with a rifle like lightning lifted from storms of Old. You pause to work the bolt and notice me, staring fixedly over my sights of iron, finger pad on trigger, pressing not pulling, but not firing.

“What the fuck, faggot.” You say.

“Shhh.” i whisper “I’m aiming for his freckle.”

Seeking nuance when action is obvious is an eternally spinning wheel in a muddy rut of its own making. All this to say: Yes.

You’re right, no need for nuance when you know the enemy. But assuming that a thing is just a Thing, no more, no less, when the thing is Things, things upon things, is a mistake. It makes allies look like enemies. It makes opportunities seem like obstacles.

“Stop shitting via keyboard!” cries Oliver Cromwell (I miss you dude; you were right, I’m a fraud)

Ok, the point. If ever we were going to find allies, natural allies, men of strength and skill and Chadness, guys with wives and lives and kids, men who’ll take King’s coin, it’s in Petrochemical. It’s a world of mobile stationary bandits. Woke can’t infiltrate oil fields (though it tries, Lord, it tries), and never once was nigger found on barren lands where derricks pound. I used to think that Restoration slept sound in barracks and the parade ground. I was wrong, no offense and I’m sorry, but the uniform has turned to Alpha’s folly.

Look, why is capitalism always right? Why does the eternal unicorn, that indomitable incarnation of applied application, always return?

SELF

INTEREST

Selfishness made selfless with no tricks or deceit. Make greed the gasoline of the IC engine in our coup. Honestly, I’m pretty sure climatehoax was built precisely because Extraction was the only beast the Cathedral can’t slay. The path to Restoration lies in Extraction. I know the destination, and I think this is the way. But enough tipsy typing.

What do you say?

Wulfgar Thundercock III says:

What exactly would I be doing with a sword? I am curious what your mental model of me looks like. Though if I ever doubt myself, I will remind myself to be the Wulfgar from your posts.

Kunning Drueger says:

I often picture you as that Limey on DDay that went ashore with a Claymore. It just seems like a Wulfgar kind of thing to do. In this particular fever dream, you were on the lip of the trench, like a damnfool, screaming something about the inferior spirit of Entente bullets.

Pax Imperialis says:

A Jimscord would be extremely interesting… and dangerous.

Regular Discord is a goldmine. If you know what to look for and how to recognize certain speech patterns/linguistic cues, you can fairly regularly find leftists with likely proximity to the Cathedral.

Considering how Discord records everything, deletes nothing, likely sends that data to Chinese intelligence via the TenCent financing, is it any wonder why Chinese espionage in America is so much more successful than American attempts in China? All that Discord shit is being data mined. Trump had the wrong primary target with TikTok.

Tangent aside…

Restoration is a multistage process. The military will have a role in it. Not an immediately direct role. The military is a behemoth that punches hard but not without orders that are seen as legitimate.

A populist revolt, as described by Yarvin in what Trump should have done, used for regime change isn’t going to be full of uniformed men in the streets. What we will likely see is more aligned the petroleum man you speak of. Truckers are fairly similar. Veterans open up indirect military participation and give organization to the mob. All of that sort of happened organically on Jan 6 and then went nowhere because Trump was only dipping toes into the Rubicon.

Those are some of the types of people that would be used to get the ball rolling, but then what? Is the king going to deputize every single Trucker and Petroleum man out there? Are they going to be the ones to stack up on doors to kick them in? Sort of need trucking and oil to keep things running.

The allies you are looking for are the ones that create the sense that the King is legitimate and is thus the King is capable of giving the military orders that are also seen as legitimate.

Restoration pose at least the following issues:

1) How to enact regime change with a sense of legitimacy (The more the better)
That is what you appear to be focused on. Also much of what Yarvin writes on. Failure at this looks like a Beer Hall Putsch
2) How to establish order in the streets (and wider society) right after regime change
This is a question of martial force. Something I’m most curious about… because if it’s successful it will be the most gratifying/fun part of a restoration… or if it fails a lot of Officers are likely going to get the have the Katyn experience. I’m not too keen on decomposing in the woods. Provided there are no mass purges failure at this point looks like that Kapp Putsch
3)Cleaning house in the wider government
Also a question of martial force (because many will not willing enter retirement on good terms even with a good retirement package). Failure at this would look like Trump’s first term or Julius Caesars meeting Brutus in the Senate. Not a fun time for either. Quite pointed actually.
4)Building the new institutions
Failing at this point and you’re… ahem… literally Sulla

1 and 2 have to be done quickly in succession. The faster the better otherwise legitimacy gets questioned. Smash small problem in the bud with overwhelming force (National Guard/USMC) before they grow into larger problems. Remarkable how easily riots dissipate when shooting the rioters is permitted. If you can’t quickly transition from 1 to 2, you got problems… see Kapp Putsch

3 can take a little more time but is still time sensitive. A more polite form of martial force (Police/Marshals/etc) is best.

4 is where you’ll want nuance, take time, and to bring in academics like Hoppe and such for the reconstruction.

But going back to the petroleum men you bring up. You are describing the American Kulak. Construction workers, car and steel factory workers, miners, etc. Relatively well paid blue collard physical labor workers… but low status even if they form the heart and soul of the nation. All practically extraction jobs. Essential for get from 0 to 1. They ideally go home afterward 1.

C4ssidy says:

Off topic for post but on topic for blog: PCgamer claimed two months ago that 25 exabyte read-only diamond wafer hard disks are to be commercialised next year, breaking us out of data storage stagnation. Would this moreorless fix the scalability of crypto, by simply having more and bigger blocks and longer chains stored on endless stacks of 25 exabyte diamond wafers?

Cloudswrest says:

Sounds dubious to me.

Cloudswrest says:

This got me poking around. Seems the state of the art is further along than I was aware.

Solid all diamond ring cut from a single, man made, diamond wafer.

https://aeworld.com/watches-jewellery/jewellery/an-all-diamond-ring-by-apple-jony-ive-heads-to-auction/

Cloudswrest says:
jim says:

The underlying technology is that you cut off a slice of a single large non crystal diamond at angle such that there is match between the diamond lattice and the non diamond crystal lattice, and then grow nanondiamonds on the surface, whose lattices align to match each other, forming a single large diamond that is a millimetre or so thick, but very wide.

This makes diamond transistors, which are enormously more capable, and can run far faster at far higher temperature than silicon transistors, possible.

But last I heard, no one was actually making diamond transistors yet. They are hoping they will soon be able to, but wafers are only the first step in the process. A lot of work is being done on it. A lot of interesting results have been achieved. But so far, nothing actually useful. Just steps in the direction of producing something useful.

The Cominator says:

“The underlying technology is that you cut off a slice of a single large non crystal diamond at angle such that there is match between the diamond lattice and the non diamond crystal lattice, and then grow nanondiamonds on the surface, whose lattices align to match each other, forming a single large diamond that is a millimetre or so thick, but very wide.”

My IQ only puts me on the cusp between midwit and actual smart person (high 120s low 130s and I was younger) so forgive me if this inquiry sounds stupid but… a transitor is normally semiconductor which uses two types of silicon both with different microscopic or nanoscopic impurities (I think they also have a “neutral” silicon region which may or may not be pure silicon this is not really explained that I’ve been able to find)… how do you make a diamond (an item of pure carbon) a semiconductor. Or are these really semidiamonds?

And as per memory storage is it just better transistors or are they trying to use the optical properties of a diamond to enhance memory storage… if trying to use a diamonds optical properties the diamond would need to be flawless and with absolutely perfect rotational symmetry correct?

jim says:

He is nuts.

In principle, diamond is capable of immensely dense data storage, but no one has any idea how to actually do it. It is like Jules Verne proposing to get to the moon by being shot out of a very powerful canon.

Cloudswrest says:

Indeed. Long before I would expect to see things like “25 exabyte read-only diamond wafer hard disks” I would expect to see little things commercialized like “discrete diamond transistors” and “diamond op amps”.

Frank Matters says:

Scaling issues are more due to communication and processing bandwidth than memory. At any given consensus layer every byte has to be known by every validator/block producer in order to validate the state transition. That’s why everyone is trying to shard the state, so at top you are validating the validation of the layer down, until you are at the client level and you are validating transactions themselves, and all incoming transactions are not bottlenecked by the processing power of a single node.

Kunning Drueger says:

How would you build an analog blockchain thingamanigger? Like, how many Chinamen reading how many 3×5 cards containing math problems using how many pencils & notepads? A human blockchain operation might be better than UBI, guys. We’ve got the real estate, we’ve got the geography, we’ve got plenty of Chinamen. We could use Indians to checkwork the chinks’ chonk-chunks, then have lady Vietgooks glue the pages together so Mexican couriers could race them to the miners. Also, is this set up Proof of Work, Proof of Stake, or Proof that I don’t deserve to post on this blog?

Pete says:

The Regime is calling their shot in advance: https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/1539350886702624768?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1539350886702624768%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=

“There will be another pandemic.” Which likely means we’ll be back in masks and lockdowns by October.

Fireball says:

I am going to bet that the next flu season is going to be pretty nasty specially in some parts of the world.

Pooch says:

Very powerful video…

https://youtu.be/Ygz8Z1Y9TZg

Mister Grumpus says:

I don’t get it. Can you translate it for me/us?

Pooch says:

Dunno…made me LOL. Massive amounts of irony.

Mr.P says:

“I see you. I see everyfreakin’oneofyou” so-called conservative opponents of the Left. “I see you and see through you, reject and renounce you, hate and spit on” your myriad shape-shifting contortions of cuck, cope, and betrayal.

Kunning Drueger says:

This guy is pretty cringe. His Donut Theory is definitely interesting, but his other videos and his comment haunting makes him seem insufferable. I could be biased against him for being a snooty leftist, I admit.

Pooch says:

He has a higher IQ than most channels you’ll find and his takes are definitely interesting.

I wouldn’t call him a leftist though in the sense that we label leftists. He essentially says all civilization is inherently leftist so his “Deep Left” is a form of civilizational advancement without the degenerate lying mainstream left of today. Not exactly sure I agree with everything he says but he brings up fascinating points.

Mister Grumpus says:

Jim doesn’t run a hugbox, but I need some perspective here.

When all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail, and the USA-Canada is looking like one big Cambodia to me.

A leftist singularity, cheered on by Harvard, firewalled within geographic isolation.

A ruling class/regime, and then general population, purged of anyone smart enough to understand what’s going wrong and why.

Useful to outside powers as a farm only, pretty much, while the population starves on fake news.

No one to march in (like Vietnam in the analogy) and say “All right you guys. That’s enough. Knock it off.”

Maybe that’s where I’m wrong, if I am wrong: There IS someone to march in and take over: Limb-Chopping Volcano-Worshipping 75-IQ Central America. Emperor MS13. Yay.

Another wrinkle in the analogy is that Cambodia wasn’t a military threat to anyone else, while the US still is, on paper anyway, but once Shaniqua finishes metabolizing the Navy, well not so much. But then again, what finally triggered the Vietnamese (as a proxy for China?) invasion of Cambodia was the Cambodian incursion into Vietnam to genocide some fleeing Cambodians.

So without that last twitch of aggression against Vietnam, thus triggering the Vietnamese coming in to finish off of its own regime, Cambodia may have had no one left alive at all. “Kill kill kill kill kill kill kill” indeed.

Discuss.

Ex says:

America is some fifty times the size of Cambodia, with larger distances from Harvard, fewer tigers in the backwoods, more guns, more smart people, and better internet access. While nobody could simply march in by land, there’s a lot of states who might like both the prestige and the resources available.

Contaminated NEET says:

Nowhere is bigger than Russia, and the commies racked up some very respectable numbers there.

jim says:

Good point. Russia is also considerably more heterogeneous than the USA.

Starman says:

@Contaminated NEET

US ground forces are a paper tiger

alf says:

I no longer believe in a Cambodia style leftist singularity of infinite leftism in finite time. I believe the progs would do it if they could, but I don’t think they can. Not enough masculinity left among their ranks. They’ll wreck everything else — energy grids, industry, agriculture, that sort of stuff. But they lack the power to pull off true revolutionary matters. It’s not 1900 AD Russia, it’s 200 AD Rome.

I think that goes for Europe as well as America, but I’d feel even better about America considering they have lots of guns.

Pooch says:

It’s not 1900 AD Russia, it’s 200 AD Rome.

I think that goes for Europe as well as America, but I’d feel even better about America considering they have lots of guns.

Yes this is where I’m at as well, although I still think we are in the first century BC of the late Roman Republic albeit with a slave post-industrial market economy instead of a slave agrarian market economy so certain degenerate values are necessarily sped up in the anti-natalist cycle (gay, trans, etc).

The triumvirate of Caesar/Crassus/Pompey symbolized the return of warrior class rule over the combined priestly/merchant oligarchical class rule of Rome and I believe the day is coming for warrior class rule to return to the American Empire.

Trump looks like the beginning of that shift (although he himself is not a warrior), in the way Gracchus represented the beginning of that shift.

Europe does not seem like it has many warriors left, but America surely does so warrior rule must necessarily originate in America.

ExileStyle says:

Europe does not seem like it has many warriors left, but America surely does so warrior rule must necessarily originate in America.

Europe is diverging more clearly and resolutely than ever from America. Europe has no warriors of any persuasion left, and its only real remaining political issue is migration, which is to say the defense (or wilful negation) of its native cultures.

That includes defense from American culture, which (western) Europeans find more and more alien and threatening with time, second really only to Muslim culture. You can see this in blatantly foreign religious phenomena like BLM parades in European capital cities where there are no ex-slave “Blacks,” or how English words like “Pride” or “Queer” or “Trans” are imported curiously untranslated directly into native languages.

People who know how to read see exactly where this is coming from: the same place the latest iPhone model is coming from. The influence of America on all things Weird and Disgusting is palpable, and left and right both are beginning to react to it with their own counter-disgust mechanisms. Anti-Americanism is the only thing left and right share.

The difference between Europe and America is more extreme now than it has been in generations or centuries, and it will be interesting to see how it plays out. There will be no native left singularity in Europe. It will only happen if imposed upon it by America.

America is and always has been a land of radicals and absolutists, whereas Europe since WWII has become a rump continent of complacent, comfortable Social Democrats. How they will land in relation to each other over the course of history is unpredictable, but likely has more to do with the fate of America and its choices than anything lazy, complacent Europe will do. Europe is inert and predictable and its future almost mathematically measurable; America still has the choice between Imperial Harvardism or Real Reaction, and likely nothing in between. If America chooses the former, they enter the left singularity and the future belongs (again) to Europe; if the latter, a millennium of Real American Empire.

The ball, in short, is in America’s court. Will be interesting to watch unfold.

Pooch says:

Anti-Americanism is the only thing left and right share.

The problem here is that the masses don’t matter. The non-American Western elite seem more Pro-Americanism than America itself.

Europe is inert and predictable and its future almost mathematically measurable; America still has the choice between Imperial Harvardism or Real Reaction, and likely nothing in between. If America chooses the former, they enter the left singularity and the future belongs (again) to Europe; if the latter, a millennium of Real American Empire.

The ball, in short, is in America’s court. Will be interesting to watch unfold.

Indeed. Very hard to predict.

When Caesar took power in Italy, the elite fled to the Eastern provinces of the Roman Empire and used that as their base of operations to conduct the Civil War against Caesar.

I could see something similar happen, where if a real Populist uprising were to happen in the US in the way that the American elite fear so deeply, that they would flee to Europe being welcomed in open arms by the European elite and you could see a Civil War of the West conducted that way.

ExileStyle says:

Yes, certain Western vs. Eastern Empire parallels do seem meaningful and translatable in this case. I can envision a sort of fossilized Byzantine perma-Empire in Europe persisting while chaos – if a vital chaos – plays itself out in America, generating a meaningful organizing energy for future global political constellations.

That said, I do think the EU zone has its own explicitly self-serving plans for the near- to mid-term future. The EU is not *quite* as subjugated to GAE as Eastern was to Western Rome, and Rome of course did not have a Russia (let alone a Russia-China alliance) breathing down its neck either.

The Eurozone powers have plans to assert themselves definitively in an American power vacuum, and are presently playing a quiet, early-stage Great Powers game with the US. (The whole WEF thing has a lot to do with this btw – cf. the origins of Schwab’s project with the idea of the Euro as a competing currency; WEF was formed almost immediately after end of Bretton Woods/start of Petrodollar, and with the USD in mind). This makes the situation more precarious and competitive than the Roman analogy.

It remains true that EU and US elites have more in common with each other than with their respective native peoples, but there is a level of serious competition between them that surpasses previous parallels, and could portend a serious competition of powers in future.

Pooch says:

The Eurozone powers have plans to assert themselves definitively in an American power vacuum, and are presently playing a quiet, early-stage Great Powers game with the US.

This presupposes that the US no longer has military assets in Europe (which today is a fairly large military presence at that).

For as long as America has troops in Europe, Europe is not sovereign which does parallel the span of the Roman provinces.

The US may be content to fight Russia at the frontier with Ukrainians, but I tend to think that any incursion of Russia into Europe proper itself, and particularly Western Europe, would provoke the deployment of actual American units. This is territory I imagine the elite would be inclined to contest strongly with the full might of the USM.

Without American troops in Europe, friendly relations with Russia seems to be the obvious realignment for Europe given their reliance on Russian natural resources.

Mister Grumpus says:

Saigon yesteryear, Kabul yesterday, Ramstein tomorrow?

ExileStyle says:

Without American troops in Europe, friendly relations with Russia seems to be the obvious realignment for Europe given their reliance on Russian natural resources.

Without American troops, Europe probably reverts to centuries-old pre-WWII dynamics, which generally pit far western Europe against big-middle-block Germany, who always wants to buddy up with Russia in a land-power alliance which, sadly, proves unacceptable to everyone else on the continent.

We see the power of that simple geography right now even, in Germany’s slow and reluctant embrace of the sanctions bullshit when they’d much rather just get their natural gas and make their cars and medical equipment and whatever and let the rest of the world play their power games. They’ve been dragging their feet openly through the whole Ukraine thing.

A Russia–Germany alliance is what Europe as a whole has been fighting against since the 17th century at the latest…

But yeah, I think you’re generally right. Just never underestimate Germany’s fundamental lack of motivation to go along with the world’s plan, how they’re torn between the West and Russia and always have been…

Kunning Drueger says:

I know it is fantastical in the extreme, but a Polish-Germanic Commonwealth allied with a Restored Russian Empire would be the building block of the Astral Imperium of Man. I’d be happy to live in a balkanized CONUS that is envassaled to either power, forming a Janissarial protectorate. America is better as chunks than a monolith, and we aren’t built to be the governance structure of a Confederation of Terra. Better to be the warrior class of the Sol System, and let the Germanics and Slavs deal with the astral monarchy.

Equally phantasmagorical, I can easily envision the Pacific Coast becoming a Chinese frontier, supplying white bodies and brains to the pseudoHan, while the Atlantic Coast becomes the Eastern Empire and lasts ~1000 years.

The most optimistic situation would be a full Restoration of the whole Republic to a neoMonarchy. Less optimal but still awesome would be a balkanized US becoming a patchwork Confederation, uniting only to confront invaders. Even less optimistic, but starting to seem more likely is a CONUS divided between Russia and China after the internecine violence abates.

If white Christians can weather whatever storm comes to the earth, there’s definitely a place for them in the future, but that’s starting to feel like a pretty big If.

Pooch says:

The American military defeats China and/or Russia right now in battle.

Until I see actual evidence to the contrary, I’m not changing my opinion of that.

Afghanistan, like Vietnam, was not American soldiers losing in battle. It was simply the American military testing memes and weapons and then deciding to end the military adventure.

The culture of Rome was horribly corrupt, decadent, and degenerate with gay sex and pederasty parades in the capital yet the Roman military continued to dominate foreign foes for centuries.

jim says:

> The American military defeats China and/or Russia right now in battle.

Nuts.

The completely ludicrous failure of the British army in recent wars is a leading indicator of how the US army will perform in future wars.

US quite recently had the best weapons in the world. Not any more.

US troops are demoralized, have a non warrior leadership that is profoundly hostile to the men who compose the tip of its fighting arm, and discipline and morale has collapsed.

What afflicted the British army in recent wars is likely to afflict the US army in future wars.

Pooch says:

The completely ludicrous failure of the British army in recent wars is a leading indicator of how the US army will perform in future wars.

Nuts.

Comparing the British Army to the American Army is ridiculous and absurd.

US troops are demoralized, have a non warrior leadership that is profoundly hostile to the men who compose the tip of its fighting arm, and discipline and morale has collapsed.

What afflicted the British army in recent wars is likely to afflict the US army in future wars.

Non-warriors have taken control of the USM for sure, but not seeing that discipline and morale have collapsed yet. They have not been tested in battle for some time. When American warriors go to battle, the other side tends to get blown to shit. See Battle of Khasham.

Comparing the non-existent British Army to the American Army is absurd because British warriors no longer exist. They are extinct. Bunch of faggots now. The British warrior is dead, give it up.

Go to Georgia, South Carolina, Alabama, Florida and the Deep South of the US and you will see the actual warriors that make up the US Army.

jim says:

Comparing the British Army to the American Army

Why?

The same ailments now manifest in the British army are now massively manifest in the US army.

Those ailments resulted in an army entirely unable to fight in recent wars.

> you will see the actual warriors that make up the US Army.

Actual warriors are no use without an actual army.

The random average nigger can usually defeat the random average white. Two niggers cannot defeat two whites, and a hundred whites can defeat an enormous numbers of niggers.

The US army is now not an army of warriors, merely a crowd of warriors.

Pooch says:

The same ailments now manifest in the British army are now massively manifest in the US army.

Those ailments resulted in an army entirely unable to fight in recent wars.

After the US saved their ass in WWII they were no longer incentivized to maintain a competent army. Accepted their status as a vassal state to the American Empire which now rules the world.

Those ailments resulted in an army entirely unable to fight in recent wars.

What wars? The wars where they do 2% of America’s fighting? They have no reason to be fighting wars as a client-state.

jim says:

The wars where they do 2% of America’s fighting? They have no reason to be fighting wars as a client-state

In those wars they repeatedly found themselves in situations where they were about to be wiped out by handful of rifle toting goat herders, and had to be rescued. The problem was not merely that they were disinclined to attack, but unable to defend.

Pooch says:

Actual warriors are no use without an actual army.

The time for a return to warrior rule approaches. Perhaps drones and technology will diminish the importance of warriors, but I tend to think it will not.

jim says:

The time for warrior leadership is now.

Russian army is led by warriors. US army by faggots. Who leads the Chinese army remains to be seen.

The military of the future will be mostly staffed by people who can give a drone mission parameters and can penetrate a computer network, rather than by people who can take you down in a fight one on one. But it will need to be led by people, and composed of people, who have the warrior spirit.

A particularly decisive victory by the Russians in Ukraine appeared to be a result of the Russians penetrating the computer network used for automatic targeting by recently supplied American artillery. The war of the future is beginning now. But it still takes warriors, just a different kind of warrior, and because the battle front will be everywhere, will need a warrior leadership more than ever.

Pooch says:

In those wars they repeatedly found themselves in situations where they were about to be wiped out by handful of rifle toting goat herders, and had to be rescued. The problem was not merely that they were disinclined to attack, but unable to defend.

They were and are, as well as the rest of the EU, not very incentivized to get that sort of thing right. When you are under protection by a world power, your priorities shift.

jim says:

> not very incentivized to get that sort of thing right

When hostile people are shooting at you and intend to kill you, you are highly incentivized to get that sort of thing right. They had some very close shaves before the US army rescued them.

It is not merely that they were disinclined to fight, but when push came to shove, unable to fight.

Pooch says:

Russian army is led by warriors. US army by faggots.

Yes I agree with you there. How long the warrior class of the US army will allow themselves to be led by faggot priests is unknown.

The Cominator says:

“The military of the future will be mostly staffed by people who can give a drone mission parameters and can penetrate a computer network, rather than by people who can take you down in a fight one on one. But it will need to be led by people, and composed of people, who have the warrior spirit.”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lj1MCjeFxrM

Couldn’t resist.

Pooch says:

But it still takes warriors, just a different kind of warrior, and because the battle front will be everywhere, will need a warrior leadership more than ever.

The warrior class has been getting it in the ass for some time now by a priest-merchant alliance. The warriors are starting to get pissed off. Trump, although a merchant himself, was in substantial part a representation of that warrior anger.

If the warrior class is to gain back power and return to kingship, going to need leadership yes. Not exactly sure where that leadership will come from. It may very well require war and battle with foreign powers. Or maybe the priest-merchant alliance holds power indefinitely right into the grave of the empire.

We are likely in for some turbulence until it’s resolved, turbulence that may very well end with many warrior kings grasping at the crown that were the final days of the Roman Republic.

jim says:

When the shooting starts, a warrior leadership will win. Trouble is we do not have any candidates for warrior leadership. Trump has a warrior spirit, and his leadership and guidance in the fight against ISIS was absolutely brilliant. Of all military leaders today, he demonstrated the greatest competence. Unfortunately he ran away on January twentieth, and before that failed to call out the militia to protect election integrity, which was and is the only way that you could have an honest election these days.

Which failures severely disqualify him.

The Cominator says:

The merchants are not allied with the priests. Most merchants fucking hate the government.

Pooch says:

The merchants are not allied with the priests. Most merchants fucking hate the government.

Turn on a tv and watch the commercials.

jim says:

You think Gillette attacked its customers because they love the politicians and hate their customers? I see terror, not love. I have been in the trenches.

Human Resources at google threatened to organize a lawsuit against the board in the James Damore incident.

The Cominator says:

Nothing good on tv anymore, tv is for boomers.

Merchants bow to the poz out of fear… the priests have no willing allies except cat ladies and some extra privileged niggers anymore.

Pooch says:

The Uniparty is manifestation of that alliance. The Democrats are the priests and the Recucklicans are the merchants. They both want mass immigration. The priests for holiness and the merchants for cheap labor.

The Cominator says:

The establishment Recucklician politicians are not merchants they are a different order of priests…

Pooch says:

The establishment Recucklician politicians are not merchants they are a different order of priests…

Completely bought and paid for by the globocorps.

jim says:

Nuts.

Let me hear your response to this meme.

You think Disney destroyed the Star War Franchise because they own the politicians? You think Marvel created faggot Thor because they own the politicians? Who owns whom?

The Cominator says:

And merchants even if they founded the globocorps are not permitted to run them generally… Musks thinks between his unlimited bribe money and Pentagon connections that the priests can’t touch them… well we shall see.

Pooch says:

Musks thinks between his unlimited bribe money and Pentagon connections that the priests can’t touch them… well we shall see.

Musk is not a merchant. Merchants are concerned with only profits and have no other strong feelings for anything else. Clearly, he is not that. Would not be buying Twitter or building rocket ships if that was the case.

He’s an engineer which qualifies him as warrior class in my class dichotomy. Problem is, unlike Trump, he’s a sperg and has no social/emotional intelligence (charisma).

Where social and analytical intelligence is brought together is when you get kingship.

Pooch says:

You think Disney destroyed the Star War Franchise because they own the politicians? You think Marvel created faggot Thor because they own the politicians? Who owns whom?

Priest-merchant alliance. They are same group of people and sit on all the boards together.

jim says:

It is not alliance when one side of the “alliance” sets your business on fire. The Star Wars franchise was destroyed, and Marvel’s superhero comics business has collapsed.

I have been inside, and it is not alliance, but terror and terrorism. I saw one of my former bosses physically trembling in fear.

And I am still asking you, as I keep asking Anonymous Fake, for a response to our meme. Your stubborn failure to respond is becoming irritating.

Pooch says:

Human Resources at google threatened to organize a lawsuit against the board in the James Damore incident.

And why did no merchants step up to defend James Damore, him being a productive engineer for the company?

jim says:

Because they would have been financially ruined. Threats of financial ruin were flying around, not all of them nearly as delicately phrased as Pseudo-Chrysostom depicts.

Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

>priest-merchant alliance

To the extent there is a relationship between the regnant gnostic sect and vaishyas in the occident, it is one where the former informs the latter that it is offering its Protection; a lot of bad things out there happening these days, bad things friend, they could even happen to you, if you’re not careful. So of course we want do a favor for you, just follow our advice and things will work out. Its in your best interests, capiche?

Pooch says:

And I am still asking you, as I keep asking Anonymous Fake, for a response to our meme. Your stubborn failure to respond is becoming irritating.

Your last link didn’t even work. Our meme?? You mean Stonetoss’s meme. Stonetoss is obviously making fun of all the negro-white couples being pushed in the ads by the priests, but I don’t care to comment about this further. You can start moderating out my comments if you wish.

jim says:

> Your last link didn’t even work.

Try it again.

> Stonetoss is obviously making fun of all the negro-white

You are refusing to hear what has been said, refusing to respond to the meme. Your mind stops when it you get to the punchline. You describe the meme as if the last two images and two sentences were absent. Crimestop makes you blind.

Crimestop makes you refuse to see what he depicts. All the rest of the meme is just setup for the punchline, and when you reach the punchline, your mind shuts down.

You describe the setup for the joke, and then stop. If you stop at the setup, your mind is shying away from the punchline in fear.

The point of joke is always in the punchline, and when a meme is in the form of a joke, the point of a meme is always in the punchline. It is not random decoration. It is the point.

I ask you, and I ask Anonymous fake, to respond to punchline. What else would I be asking?

Pooch says:

The ad creator is not interested in selling burgers, just interested in pushing black holiness. It’s a funny meme. I laughed out loud when it was circulating. What am I missing?

jim says:

You are missing that the adman is not interested, and does not need to be interested, in what the boss wants.

Which implies an environment where the boss is not able to hire those who will contribute to the bottom line, and fire those who will not contribute to the bottomline, implies the powerlessness of the boss, the directors, and the shareholders, what you are calling the merchant part of the merchant priest alliance, to control their own property and use it for their own interests.

A joke usually has element of conflict to make it funny. That is the element of conflict that makes it funny. It is that conflict that you are missing.

The adman is not interested in contributing to the bottom line, and it does not even occur to him that he is supposed to have some lie ready to explain that he actually is contributing to the bottom line.

The boss asks for the lie, does not get it.

Pooch says:

I ask you, and I ask Anonymous fake, to respond to punchline. What else would I be asking?

No f’ing clue man. My response is laughter because it’s funny.

The Cominator says:

Pooch Jim is saying more often than not merchants, the owners of capitalist enterprises mostly go along with globohomo out of fear as globohomo controls the vast american leviathan state which can ruin them via legal persecution either of their companies or them personally.

Do you dispute this? Its not an alliance when your ally is pointing a gun at your head.

Adam says:

The priesthood was woke long before the merchants were. One could speculate that some merchants cater to woke consumers. And you could argue that the true believer progressive merchants are just as stupidly self destructive as our true believer progressive elite.

There is no doubt enormous priestly pressure on merchants, and likely not much of any merchant pressure on priests.

Ford is not telling regulators what the new emissions standards are. Harvard is telling Ford comply with the new emissions standards or else.

jim says:

A joke is funny, when someone seemingly powerful, is suddenly revealed as powerless.

This meme is funny because the boss, what Pooch is calling the merchant priest alliance, is suddenly revealed as powerless, when the adman feels no need to have the lie his boss expects ready.

Which point Pooch is stubbornly evading.

Adam says:

Let’s not forget the never ending shill campaign against imperialism aimed at the defense contractors, warriors, and natural resource merchants. Hell the civil war story is more priests beating up merchants for insufficient progressivism.

I really hate priests honestly. They just fuck everything up.

Wulfgar Thundercock III says:

Pooch, if you are not seeing the collapse of morale and discipline, then you are studiously not looking for it.

jim says:

I see lots of things Pooch is studiously not looking for.

Starman says:

@Pooch

“The American military defeats China and/or Russia right now in battle.”

Pooch once again demonstrates that he is a mediocre midwit who shits up the comment sections of Jim’s Blog.

alf says:

Same goes for immigration. Merchants and priests are not allies.

Merchants want cheap labor. In the Netherlands that means Poles or other Eastern Europeans. They come here a couple of months, work, take their paycheck home where the money is worth more — everyone happy.

Contrast with priest immigration — they couldn’t care less about the Polish. They want Moroccans, Sumalians and other African subraces to move here permanently, precisely because they add no value and only cause trouble.

Pooch says:

Merchants want cheap labor. In the Netherlands that means Poles or other Eastern Europeans. They come here a couple of months, work, take their paycheck home where the money is worth more — everyone happy.

Very well may be the case in Europe. In the US, it means infinite mainly brown Hispanic manual laborers who speak no English. For the higher skilled jobs they’ll get Indians and Chinese.

Pooch says:

It is not alliance when one side of the “alliance” sets your business on fire. The Star Wars franchise was destroyed, and Marvel’s superhero comics business has collapsed.

Absurd and ridiculous. Disney is scooping money hand over fist. Their monopoly is secure and protected by the politicians. Their profits are growing not shrinking. To think otherwise is Vox Day-tier Patriots in Control Q larping.

The alliance works as such: the globocorps accept to push their priestly memes and get a protected monopoly (or oligopoly) in return. Of course the priests get a handsome cut of the profits.

There’s a carrot and a stick at play. If a globocorp doesn’t play ball the eye of Sauron may very well fall upon them, but if they play ball more fervently than the competition they can and will be rewarded with all kinds of favorable treatment by the government.

There is tremendous incentive for the globocorps to go hard woke. Go woke go broke is a failed meme. You’ll find these globocorps are actually making money hand over fist in a protected oligopoly. What a coincidence.

Pooch says:

Hispanic manual laborers who speak no English. For the higher skilled jobs they’ll get Indians and Chinese.

All who most certainly stay and do not return to their country of origin.

Pooch says:

Ford is not telling regulators what the new emissions standards are. Harvard is telling Ford comply with the new emissions standards or else.

Ford donates massive sums of money to the politicians and priestly organizations. It’s in the politicians interest, if they want that donor money to continue to flow, to protect Ford’s profits and place in the oligopoly.

Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

You’re being slippery with your definitions here my crypto-commie friend. You said ‘merchants’ in general, yet when pressed for elaboration start talking about cronies in particular.

Looks to me like merchant men in general are getting assfucked good and hard and deep by all this, while a few kinglets stand on top of the rubblepile left over. Same pattern you see in leftisms in everything everywhere.

Pooch says:

You’re being slippery with your definitions here my crypto-commie friend.

I’m the crypto-commie friend? The system we have now is not free market capitalism like the normie Republicans would have you believe. In fact it is crypto-communism and I’m attacking it.

America is a communist country. Large swaths of the economy are dominated by a few globocorps in most sectors, in other words oligopolies. I am attacking oligopolies.

How does that make me a commie?

Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

The crypto-commie thoughtform you are being possessed by here is the idea of a ‘merchant-priest alliance’, as if merchant-men are peers, primary agents, or in any way equal partners in this picture.

The phenomena of wokecorps is not one of merchants making priests more merchant-like, but priests making merchants more priestlike. A wokecorp is defined by its unusual priestliness, not unusual merchantness.

Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

By imputing primacy to merchants in this picture, it is to say that ‘the inevitable result of market economics is communism’, which is the classic commie meme par excellence.

The communist believes all economies are already command economies, and he merely suggests replacing the comptroller-general presently sitting in a shadowy office in wall street with himself instead.

@Pooch,

The stonetoss comic is as subtle as a sledgehammer. You are not anonymous fake. I expected that long term non-shill commenters on jimblog would know the basics of the priest-warrior-merchant dynamics by now.

S says:

@Pooch
Brown migrants would go back to their homes except for how the US system is set up. It is absolutely not working in a way good for merchants; I suspect the only reason brown immigrants work at all is because priests want to screw over white manual laborers.

Remember we had substantial amounts of people going back prior to 1920 and that required traveling across the ocean.

Disney is having massive problems. Covid and inflation are killing their parks and their movies and shows are flopping. Lightyear had a 200 million dollar budget and has made 100 million dollars.

Encelad says:

Look at Electronic Arts: in 2019 they released the game Battlefield V which was heavily criticized by the fan base, as a game supposedly set in WW2 included Black nazis, cyborg badass women and other woke nonsense. EA instead of addressing the fans’ concerns, doubled down accusing their customers of being white supremacists or something like that.
The game release was a major fail, the EA stock plummeted and took years to recover, a typical case of “get woke, go broke”. They did not care. Well, the bosses and the investors probably would care, and that’s the point: that the real power is wielded by the HR department which does not answer to their CEO, but to the Cathedral’s priesthood. That’s in my opinion the message of that Stonetoss’ meme.

jim says:

The message of that meme is that boss does not have power. That is why the punchline has punch. The meme warriors must strip our complex theoretical ideas down to the core point – which involves leaving out our explanation as to why the boss is powerless.

But that the boss is powerless, that the investors are powerless, is indeed the plain and clear message of that meme, which is why am so pissed when people avert their eyes.

Pooch tells us he laughed out loud. But then the thoughtcrime policeman inside came down on him and forbade him to know what made him laugh.

yewotm8 says:

>The message of that meme is that boss does not have power.

I think you’re extrapolating too far. I don’t think the comic is suggesting that the “boss”, if that’s what he is, is powerless to do anything about what’s going on. The reader may infer it, knowing what he knows about the world he lives in, but I’d wager the vast majority of even those who laugh at the comic do not.

Stonetoss is not committing thoughtcrime to the extent you are describing. Which is of course a decent chunk of thoughtcrime, as I know people who have seen the strip and didn’t get the premise somehow, but there is nothing suggesting that any of the terror or coercion you have described is taking place. The average right-leaning normie gets the joke and laughs at it. But that is because he legitimately believes that companies do woke advertising because they think it will sell more products. He is laughing at them because he thinks they are stupid. He is confused as to why they continue with the wokeness, and does not piece together that maybe the whole “canceling” thing that’s going on in the public square is being applied to those within these companies as well.

I do not believe Stonetoss knew this either when he wrote the comic strip. He was just trying to be funny and make fun of advertising for the same reason the average normiecon does, that I listed in the preceding paragaph.

Your explanation of woke companies, that being that the CEO is powerless against HR and the government’s “regulation”, is entirely reasonable, but it just is not a well-known explanation outside of this blog. We would do well to meme such a thing (and in fact I have been doing so whenever I see such an opportunity), lest more midwits start thinking that the merchants themselves are the ones who are evil and insane, and get confused as to who their target should be.

jim says:

> > The message of that meme is that boss does not have power.

> I think you’re extrapolating too far

The message of a meme is always in the punchline. A joke is funny because someone seemingly powerful is suddenly revealed as powerless. If you laughed, you saw the message that you are now rationalizing away.

This our message, our meme, in which the meme warrior Stonetoss has necessarily distilled our complex and wordy theory into a single word, a single word that in the context he sets up carries our entire theory of capitalism, capitalists, merchants, and priests within it.

And if you laughed, you saw what was within that single word.

The boss is a merchant, the ad man a priest. The adman is standing before the seated boss, so ostensibly the merchant is in power, and ostensibly the priest his servant. But, the merchant’s powerlessness suddenly revealed by the priest’s failure to produce the lie that the merchant demands, you laughed.

Wulfgar Thundercock III says:

No, Stonetoss definitely knew what he was saying. The tell is the question in the last panel. “Burgers?” That tells us that the marketing guy is not interested in selling burgers at a burger company. He did not create the ad to sell burgers. The boss wants to hear that this will help improve sales, and the ad guy is baffled by the question. He asks,” Burgers?” as an implied question of, “Why would we care about selling burgers over interracial sex?”

Come on, gentlemen, we are neoreactionaries. There is no knowledge forbidden to us. Why are you so afraid of thoughtcrime? Knowledge is power, and understanding of our enemies is the most potent power.

yewotm8 says:

This started off as a “shill test” of Pooch, whose shilliness was not actually in question (I suppose it was more of an IQ test), and Jim said:

>The adman is not interested in contributing to the bottom line, and it does not even occur to him that he is supposed to have some lie ready to explain that he actually is contributing to the bottom line.

The boss asks for the lie, does not get it.

Yes, this is the part that’s funny. But it’s funny regardless of whether or not you consciously grasp that the adman can do that because his wokeness is backed by real, hard power. People might feel it, but they do not understand it, do not make the connection by themselves, and are resistant to making it when it’s pointed out to them. Maybe this is due to thoughtcrime, maybe it’s due to lack of intellectual firepower, maybe it’s due to lingering crypto-commie sentiments of “rich man bad”. I don’t know, I was just pointing it out and giving Pooch the benefit of the doubt. I certainly wouldn’t have been able to articulate it myself back in 2018 when the comic came out, but I wasn’t reading this blog much.

>Why are you so afraid of thoughtcrime?

This isn’t about me, this is about the average rightwinger and Stonetoss. I’m the one positing Jim’s thoughtcrime payloads to people in the first place.

I’m not sure why I’m having to explain myself so much. You all seem to understand each other so well, but not me. Am I that bad at writing?

Pooch says:

Maybe this is due to thoughtcrime, maybe it’s due to lack of intellectual firepower, maybe it’s due to lingering crypto-commie sentiments of “rich man bad”.

None of the above.

I reject the position that merchants today have no agency besides only profits as implied by Jim’s interpretation of the Stonetoss meme. Does not match up with reality. Who are these non-woke bosses in these woke companies powerless to stop their logos from being painted in rainbow flags?

The CEO of my corporation today sent out a long ridiculous exhaustive priestly email on the Roe decision. He is the boss of the company and he is woke. There is no boss above him. There is no “hidden” non-woke merchant here only concerned with profits and nothing else. No one put a gun to his head. He did this out of his own agency.

When Nietzsche looked at the warrior and the priest, he viewed the merchant as an outgrowth of the priest which is correct chronologically. You can’t have a market if you do not have a common language. The most fundamental form of capital is language.

When we talk about the merchant, we’re talking about a priest who is existing in a mental consciousness space. That is, they are no longer in the magical or mystical consciousness. They are now existing in a mental quantitative space where survival is the highest virtue through material reality. The idea that you lose your agency as a merchant is not founded.

When you understand this relationship of the priest to the merchant, you understand why masses of slaves were imported into Rome during the final century of the Roman Republic and why masses of slaves are being imported into the American Republic today.

It becomes instantly clear what gave rise to the Gracchus’ reaction and what the conflict between the Populares and Optimates was all about when you fully grasp what a merchant is.

Otherwise the final century of the Roman Republic makes no sense to you.

jim says:

> Does not match up with reality. Who are these non-woke bosses in these woke companies powerless to stop their logos from being painted in rainbow flags?

Myself among others.

I got out before the door hit me. At the time Vox Day had not yet published his sound advice to start a dumpster fire and let the door hit you. And perhaps back then that advice would have been less sound.

And things are far worse now than they were then, with Accounting added to the attack from Human Resources. Back then Human Resources demanded you had to push the blue pill. Now Accounting demands the rainbow flag, and Human Resources demands critical race theory.

Pax Imperialis says:

BlackRock’s ESG system is major primary vehicle for wokeness into non-woke businesses.

Netflix for example started producing woke content in response to BlackRock investment and to meet ESG standards.

High ESG scores keeps the money flowing. Low ESG scores cause the opposite effect.

ESG is also pushed via the Federal Reserve.

If a business is at all dependent on institutional investors or the feds, it’s going to get woke to keep the bottom line.

Pragmatically, getting a high ESG score in regard to being eco-friendly is relatively hard. Flying a bunch of LGBTQIAA+ flags and sending out pronoun memos is relatively easy. Hence why all big companies are going gay.

Disney CEO tried to steer the company away from gay. After the ESG proponents got to him, his hostage video got sent out where he proclaimed Disney will always be gay.

Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

Your CEO lacks sovereignty because he – and more significantly those around him in his social circle – lacks memetic sovereignty. A controlling interest of stock in his mindshare is a wholly owned and operated subsidy of the polygon. Of course it is ‘of his own volition’, because substantially his volition is their volition. Manufacturing consent, perennialism 101. ( https://radishmag.wordpress.com/2013/11/08/democracy-and-the-intellectuals/ )

You see the same pattern play out over and over again. East India Company did not pass into the dustbin of history because they failed economically, nor because they were defeated militarily, but because their nerve-centers were rotted by parliamentarian cordyceps.

jim says:

> A controlling interest of stock in his mindshare is a wholly owned and operated subsidy of the polygon.

In my case I did not notice any significant mindshare problem at all. The problem was that Legal and HR were wholly owned by the government, and these days, in public companies, also Accounting. Which is why Musk needs to take Twitter private, so that he will not have Accounting on his back.

Those guys are branches of the their respective government bureaucracies, which the private sector is forced to house and fund. It is the same thing as the Chinese Communist party injecting party members into the administration of private companies, except that America has far more of them, they cost far more, and they meddle far more.

Companies exist by accounting. They were an accounting fiction imagined into reality by book keepers before they were a legal fiction legislated into legal reality. And SoX has destroyed accounting.

Neurotoxin says:

Pooch: “Who are these non-woke bosses in these woke companies powerless to stop their logos from being painted in rainbow flags?”

Brendan Eich, for example.

Pooch says:

BlackRock’s ESG system is major primary vehicle for wokeness into non-woke businesses.

Netflix for example started producing woke content in response to BlackRock investment and to meet ESG standards.

And who or what is BlackRock? Looks to me Larry Fink is part of this priestly mercantile elite.

The Cominator says:

Blackrock magically made all their assets with the 2008-2009 bailouts… looks like another government front to me…

Frank Matters says:

@Pooch

Priests killed the merchants and wear their skins as a uniform. You see the skin of the murdered merchant and think, “wow, an unholy alliance.”

Yes, many “merchants” experience more cashflow by acting priestly. This isn’t because their business runs better, but because they get rewarded by power. Short term, a fantastic strategic move by the priests. Gives them ever more power and influence. Long term, completely destructive to economic capacity and will leave everyone poor while destroying the ability to make effective weapons systems; ultimately a damning move.

Pooch says:

Ok Sure, Larry Fink is a front for the priestly mercantile elite.

Pooch says:

Long term, completely destructive to economic capacity and will leave everyone poor

The elite are getting richer, not poorer.

Kunning Drueger says:

Every CEO sent out a letter. In my case, it was chief of HR. Informal, whinging, demonstrating holiness. “Please, please, I implore you to believe in our belief! We’re the good guys, we swear!” Ask around, I bet everyone you know that works for/with a megacorp had the same letter go out. That is what happens when those in power give an order to those who obey. This doesn’t absolve the merchants, but it does show that they are part of the effects, not the cause.

Pooch says:

It should be noted that COVID insanity in large part was a transfer of wealth from small business merchants to what I’m calling the priestly mercantile corporate elite.

There is so much coordination at the top between the Cathedral priests and the corporate elite that it really is not accurate to differentiate between the two. They are the same people.

It is not just the elite gaming the state religion. It is the state religion being changed by the elite in lockstep with the material interests of the elite, who are both priestly and mercantile in character.

jim says:

Consider what happened with coal mining and fracking, Marvel Comics, Netflix, and Disney. Lots of coordination, but very much not the same people.

The corporate elite is being terrorized. I have seen their fear up close.

It is as if you are arguing that the communist party was the peasants in arms.

Frank Matters says:

@Pooch

> They are the same people.

Yes this is exactly what I said.

> They are getting richer

Number go up means nothing in terms of real wealth. Material conditions are plummeting. Eventually this plummet reaches the priests. Money cannot buy what cannot be made, and we are losing the ability to make things. There is an argument to be made about becoming richer in overall share of the extant goods in the system, but that is not what I meant by everyone becoming poor. I meant that everyone eventually is reduced to the living standards of the dark age after we destroy all industry everywhere.

Pooch says:

It is as if you are arguing that the communist party was the peasants in arms.

Not at all what I am arguing. You are assigning me a position that I am in no way taking.

The peasants are workers and as a class have no agency in the tripartite system of merchant-priest-warrior.

Communism/Marxism and in large part nationalism is giving agency and power to a class people (the worker) who are undeserving of it. Unsurprisingly, bad and evil things result from that.

@Frank

Number go up means nothing in terms of real wealth. Material conditions are plummeting.

Not seeing that for the elite. Their material possessions and landed wealth grows by the day. Everything is just dandy if you are of the ruling elite as everything was just dandy if you are were of the ruling elite in the final century of the Roman Republic.

Meanwhile, the warrior class is getting screwed hard.

jim says:

The merchant class is incapable of being a political actor, because incapable of coordinating the way the priestly and warrior class coordinate.

The “coordination” goes in one direction. From priest to merchant. As I said, they are being terrorized.

The Cominator says:

The managerialists the priests posing as merchants do fine out of this system…

Actual merchants interested in trade and creating products and their investors (especially their investors) get massively screwed by the system. Existing merchants with mature enterprises get reduced to pensioners ala the way they did in the 3rd Reich.

Pooch says:

As I said, they are being terrorized.

Being terrorized right into private jets and beach front estates across the world. The mercantile priestly elite that attend the WEF conferences do not seem all that terrorized to me.

jim says:

Look at the WEF speaker list. Is that the mercantile elite?

Priests are speaking, and the mercantile elite has been summoned to listen.

The priests are coordinating, the merchants are being coordinated.

jim says:

Being terrorized right out of power and out of a sex life and out of children.

Pooch says:

The merchant class is incapable of being a political actor, because incapable of coordinating the way the priestly and warrior class coordinate.

Nietzsche disagreed. In fact, Nietzsche boiled everything down as just priest vs warrior with merchants being an outgrowth of the priest.

I will not go that far dismiss the merchant as their own class, but it is clear Nietzsche is correct chronologically. You cannot have a merchant without first having the civilizational abstraction as first created by the priest. The merchant is a priestly mindset, but instead of the metaphysical and mystical concerns, material physical concerns.

The Cominator says:

Pooch the existing owners do okay out of the arrangement they have little power.

Have you seen the movie Casino, better yet have you read the book… the arrangement is sort of like the arrangement between Lefty Rosenthal (the mob’s man portrayed by De Niro in the movie) and Allan Glick (the owner). Now the owner Allan Glick (Kevin Pollak in the movie a minor character) made a lot of money but he had no power over decisions in the company…

IRL what Lefty supposedly to Glick “It is about time you become informed of what is going on here and where I am coming from and where you should be… I have been instructed not to tolerate any nonsense from you, nor do I have to listen to what you say, because you are not my boss… When I say you don’t have a choice, I am just not talking of an administrative basis, but I am talking about one involving health. If you interfere with any of the casino operations or try to undermine anything I want to do here, I represent to you that you will never leave this corporation alive.”

https://content.time.com/time/subscriber/article/0,33009,960535,00.html
https://allthatsinteresting.com/frank-rosenthal

The Merchants are like Allan Glick. But the mafia was a much more reasonable hidden controller than the priests because the mafia was also interested in making money and even customer service…

The Cominator says:

Or legally targetted ala Conrad Black.

Mister Grumpus says:

@alf:
“They’ll wreck everything else — energy grids, industry, agriculture, that sort of stuff.”

Dude that’s pretty fucking bad though. A hands-off genocide through incompetence alone. There’s nothing that atomized individuals can do to help themselves in that situation.

Consider South African whites. They’re just obeying and obeying right into the grave.

Starman says:

@Mister Grumpus

“Consider South African whites. They’re just obeying and obeying right into the grave.”

Private Military Companies vastly outnumber the SA police and military combined.

Local communities simply ignore the government’s rules except for taxes and bribes to the ANC.

Kunning Drueger says:

It is neither fair nor accurate to paint all real South Africans with the same yellow hue of the urban cucks. Conscious Caracal is someone you should look into.

ExileStyle says:

Yeah, some of the most authentically based people in the world are white South Africans. Not just theory for them, they know what they’re talking about.

alf says:

I’m not disagreeing uncle Grump. We must unatomize ourselves (‘molecule’ ourselves? Man I’ll let myself out…)

Starman says:

@alf

“I no longer believe in a Cambodia style leftist singularity of infinite leftism in finite time. I believe the progs would do it if they could, but I don’t think they can. Not enough masculinity left among their ranks. They’ll wreck everything else — energy grids, industry, agriculture, that sort of stuff. But they lack the power to pull off true revolutionary matters. It’s not 1900 AD Russia, it’s 200 AD Rome.

I think that goes for Europe as well as America, but I’d feel even better about America considering they have lots of guns.”

Exactly. Afghanistan and recent events have revealed the progs and their ZOGbots to be nothing more than a paper tiger. A conclusion that Putin himself has made.

You now have professional Russian and Chinese diplomats abandoning diplomatic turns of phrase, and openly mocking the United States government. Openly stating that the European countries are vassal states of the US.

https://www.rt.com/russia/557337-lavrov-uk-relations-room/
https://youtu.be/xUVPBUi06ak

Kunning Drueger says:

I don’t know if it’s just resonant “muh American exceptionalism” or what, but I don’t think they’re as far along as you portray, at least in terms of France in 1941. That’s an accurate analog to your position, right? France still had a functioning military and Navy, which was surrendered by their leadership.

The withdrawal from AFG is complicated; you have the failure of the withdrawal, but you also had a bunch of PMCs and ad hoc units go in and pull people out pretty successfully. I wonder how quickly GAE will turn to mercenaries when their regulars start collapsing, or if they even could.

Pooch says:

The withdrawal from AFG is complicated; you have the failure of the withdrawal, but you also had a bunch of PMCs and ad hoc units go in and pull people out pretty successfully. I wonder how quickly GAE will turn to mercenaries when their regulars start collapsing, or if they even could.

I think it may be premature to view Afghanistan (or Iraq or Vietnam) as collapse of USM capability. There was no actual will to fight there.

Afghanistan and Iraq were essentially testing grounds for memeing the local population into defending territory for us so actual US soldiers didn’t have to. Failed miserably against Jihadism, a formidable faith.

Not failing miserably in Ukraine.

Pax Imperialis says:

Essentially testing grounds for new toys courtesy of Raytheon and the American tax payer.

At a certain point, I don’t know when (early 2010s?), it felt like in DoD approximate circles there was more interest in playing around in the Sandbox than achieving anything.

Sandbox or Sandpit was the slang for Iraq. Think about the connotations of that terminology being used.

Lots of young guys joined the military in the 2010s to go on an adventure and see pink mist. There was no energy to defend anything.

It was mostly State Department that wanted to build something, and Pentagon bureaucracy that paid lip service.

Pooch says:

Lots of young guys joined the military in the 2010s to go on an adventure and see pink mist. There was no energy to defend anything.

It was mostly State Department that wanted to build something, and Pentagon bureaucracy that paid lip service.

Completely agree. It was military adventurism and a sandbox for memes and weapons.

Contrast this how the elite would act against an enemy which they have real hatred for like Trump supporters. You’d see nukes, chemical weapons, you name it being deployed.

Wulfgar Thundercock III says:

I think they are going to attempt infinite leftism in finite time. That they will fail does not mean they will not give it the old college try. I do agree that our situation more closely resembles late Rome, but we do have a live state religion. That will mean differences in the way things play out, but not severe differences. The advantages that they gain from having a live state religion are going to be offset by their absolute void of manly virtue. Yes, they can organize, but the organized American left is probably less effective than disorganized Roman elite.

Pooch says:

Yes, they can organize, but the organized American left is probably less effective than disorganized Roman elite

When Caesar marched on Rome, the Roman elite were extremely ineffective and disorganized. They had no choice but to back Pompey, a former Populist who they also viewed as a threat to their rule, knowing full well that a victory may very well be the start of a Pompian monarchy instead of Caesarian one.

Pooch says:

I agree with your premise though, that we track with Rome more closely.

Kunning Drueger says:

Sometimes it seems more like the Austria-Hungarian Empire to me, but my historical grasp of that entity and era is weak. Do you think we always compare it to Rome because it’s accurate, or because we esteem ourselves their peers? There are absolutely socio-cultural parallels, but the Roman Republic was a lot more long lived when the conversion to Empire occured than we are, right? How many civil wars or near misses occured prior to Octavian’s rise?

Pooch says:

Do you think we always compare it to Rome because it’s accurate, or because we esteem ourselves their peers?

Too many parallels to count and the fact that Rome was a world power in the same way that America is a world power now. Not seeing any closer parallel in that regard.

There are absolutely socio-cultural parallels, but the Roman Republic was a lot more long lived when the conversion to Empire occured than we are, right?

The Roman Republic lasted very long before it transitioned back to a monarchy. Our republic is likely not going to last that long but it is not done yet. Technology may have an effect on this longevity or lack there of.

How many civil wars or near misses occured prior to Octavian’s rise?

Well we haven’t seen our Octavian yet. We may very well be in for considerable bloodshed and war before then.

jim says:

> I no longer believe in a Cambodia style leftist singularity of infinite leftism in finite time. I believe the progs would do it if they could, but I don’t think they can

They are giving it a damned good try. The worshipers of the mighty and awesome Covid demon want another go, while the sodomites are moving fast to make K9 to K12 classes into transsexual child whorehouses.

But the war faction faction is in the driver’s seat. And they have just launched another, larger, act of war against Russia. They have launched a blockade of Kalingrad, Russia’s only warm water port to the Atlantic. The Russians have promised consequences, which consequences will likely be an act of war against a member of the Nato alliance.

If I was in Putin’s shoes I would cut to the chase and nuke Vilnius. Putin will probably take a slower, more indirect, costly, dangerous, and less effective path, but will find himself winding up at the same destination anyway.

Putin will engage in the smallest possible act of war against a member of NATO, to which NATO will respond with another, larger, act of war, and in the end, he will have to nuke Vilnius, and then we shall learn if US nukes still work. Or maybe the US military will interrupt the process, remove the war faction, and install the Covidians or the K9 sodomites in the driver’s seat. But I suspect the US Military will not find the balls to remove the war faction until Vilnius is nuked, and taking the long and indirect path gives the war faction more time and opportunity to cement its power against the faggots and the worshipers of the Mighty and Awesome Covid demon.

Globalist Power Terminated 2 says:

If I was in Putin’s shoes I would cut to the chase and nuke Vilnius.

If or when he does so, globalist power wiill be terminated — PRAISE GNON!

Wulfgar Thundercock III says:

I hope the military faction actually succeeds and that Putin gives them the time they need. If the demon cultists win, it will plunge the whole world into chaos. Let the military swordfight with Russia, and maybe we will get our Caesar, Cromwell, or Stalin from it.

jim says:

The Military faction is different to, and opposed to, the war faction. With the upper ranks purged of warriors, the upper ranks do not want, and never expected, to be put in the warrior role, and are vigorously declining what the war faction is asking of them.

For the war faction to create a Caesar, as the military expansionist faction of the French Revolutionaries created Napoleon, they are going to have to put some warriors into the upper ranks, as the French Revolutionaries put Napoleon and the Puritans put Cromwell.

The Cominator says:

The war faction is classic bluegov redgov as pozzed as they are… they are sane enough to worry about Russian nukes.

Red says:

The war faction is classic bluegov redgov as pozzed as they are… they are sane enough to worry about Russian nukes.

I’m not seeing it. Every thing I read from them is that Russia doesn’t have the balls to use nukes. We appear to be walking into a slow tit for tat sort of exchange that will walk us right into nuclear war.

jim says:

Russia may well back down over the blockade. That is what the Global American Empire are betting. They might be right. But suppose Russia does not backdown, then slow walk or fast walk to nukes.

Suppose Russia does backdown. Well, then the Global American Empire will in due course try something else. And sooner or later, Russia will, belatedly, decide that backing down does not buy peace.

And then slow walk or fast walk to nukes.

Mister Grumpus says:

‘Kaliningrad’
Fix above and delete this

Cloudswrest says:

‘Königsberg’

jim says:

Not seeing the context. Where is the correction requested?

Needs a longer quote.

Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

#PrussianLivesMatter
#restorethestuarts
#constantinople

The Cominator says:

Cold on restoring the Stuarts but definitely we should restore the Hohenzollerns.

Jehu says:

I tend to think similarly. When considering an escalation path, I consider the likely response at each level and tend to look to find the first path that has a likely acceptable response, and then jump to it immediately with no warning.

This generates good results at a schoolyard level if someone is doing a typical bully dance where they expect you to deescalate at each opportunity while they progressively escalate. Immediately jumping your violence level to 100% means you can usually take aggressors that are stronger than you on paper. The problem is that when nukes are involved you’re basically guaranteed to see them used in a number of historical situations if you have someone that thinks like you or I in power.

Why? Because the first level at which the likely response by the other player is acceptable might well be after you’re launched a devastating decapitating strike and Instagrammed their Second Strike submariners with things like—I see your family is centered around these towns out in flyover country. We don’t have them on our nuke list now, but…should your submarine launch, you can be assured that your bloodline will be terminated in nuclear fire. On the other hand, if you don’t launch, we’ll make it worth your while.

jim says:

> This generates good results at a schoolyard level if someone is doing a typical bully dance where they expect you to deescalate at each opportunity while they progressively escalate.

When you are on a path that you know will end in terrible violence and very likely death, but the other guy expects that you will back down half way along the road, you can avoid the terrible violence by immediately jumping to the last step on the road just before death or serious injury, and skipping all the intermediate posturing and pissing around.

I speak from experience.

The more slow small steps you take along the path, the more the both of you are going to get locked into that final outcome.

Nuking Vilnius tomorrow noon would greatly reduce the risk of total all out nuclear war.

Jehu says:

Going full monty on nuking NATO probably has the best expected value, not just nuking Vilnius. Nuking Vilnius is likely to draw a ‘proportionate’ response that leads to a cycle of nuclear escalation.

jim says:

When you are on a path that you know will end in terrible violence and very likely death, but the other guy expects that you will back down half way along the road and is probing to find the minimum violence required to extract submission, and since submission is not going to be forthcoming you know where the road leads, but he does not, you can avoid the terrible violence by immediately jumping to the last step on the road just before death or serious injury, and skipping all the intermediate posturing and pissing around.

I speak from experience.

The more slow small steps you take along the path, the more the both of you are going to get locked into that final outcome.

Nuking Vilnius tomorrow at noon would greatly reduce the risk of total all out nuclear war. By escalating faster than the other guy, you convincingly signal to him that there is a high likelihood that you will go right on escalating to the final outcome should he continue to escalate. It is a costly signal. When you are on the path to escalation, you are on that path because your opponent does not believe your cheap signals and has to be convinced that submission is not forthcoming.

Invading Ukraine was an insufficiently expensive signal. It is obvious the Global American Empire was not persuaded. A much more convincing signal is required.

But going all the way to nuking NATO is not necessarily required. Nuking Vilnius at noon tomorrow would very likely suffice.

The leadership of the war faction would likely not be convinced, but NATO would know that the next step is nuking NATO. No intermediate steps would remain. If the war faction continued, as it very likely would, it would find its hands full with a NATO war defection.

Jehu says:

You say likely, and I agree it might have a 50/50 chance of working—by working, I mean GAE capitulates and stops ‘not war’ immediately and less insane factions of it take control. But I wouldn’t put nuking Vilnius at any more than a 50/50 of achieving that outcome. I see a high probability that Kalingrad is nuked or at least fuel-air bombed in response. And the insanity of that response could come from a fair number of different NATO players. Thus my estimate of 50/50 at best. And if the response comes, it’s off to the races.

On the other hand, if you go full Monty, you probably achieve strategic and tactical surprise and your expected losses are a lot smaller. Some of their nukes won’t work, most will be destroyed on the ground, and you’ll be able to blackmail most of the rest into not launching.
My gut is the full monty is the best play in terms of expected value.

Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

What Putin really needs to start doing yesterday is memeing the doom of major globohomo instigators around ukraine into the ground of Being.

First you start with one: pick a particularly egregious or emblematic swamp creature, pull up a selection of their words, actions, and associates, and issue dire op-eds that their conduct could unfortunately result in ‘undesirable consequences’ for the world in general and themselves in particular. When they inevitably persist, the prognostications of doom both intensify and become more pointed – ‘will not someone rid us of this turbulent priests?’, natch. And, when they inevitably persist again in this case, you stuff a Khinzal down their chimney.

Everyone paying attention in the world is put on notice. The leadership of globohomo is perfectly willing to fight Russia to the last ukrainian – the obvious solution then, is to make it so you can put *them* on the ‘front lines’.

Killing enemy leadership is effective. Killing reprobates in response to behavior is also a message. And the most effective message is one where everyone hears about who you made an example of when their behavior displeased you, and why it displeased you. The polygon itself does this all the time, dogwhistling the normalization of an intended action before it even happens, such that by the time you actually do it, it is practically a fait accompli.

Its hard to express how far reaching the effects of this can be. The level of sheer atomization in the occident is such that there are significant factions that won’t care at all if the apparatchiks are getting killed, and many who will cheer it on even.

Of course in the beginning they will raise a huge uproar about it on the outlets of their megaphone – feeling, for one of the first times in their lives, the cold grip of reality, reaching through their ideosocial bubble, circling around their hearts – to try and get the grill-pillers worked up on their side as they always do. But then the inevitable thought occurs – “hey, i never actually liked these guys”; and “hey, they aren’t actually unkillable or all powerful”; and “hey, they can’t actually guarantee success in punishing me if i speak against them, like i used to unconsciously assume”. Once those leads connect together to form a circuit in folk’s minds, everything becomes in flux. Once those cards are put on the table, everything becomes a whole lot more Dynamic than previously expected.

The day before, it’s a circular firing squad. The day after, it’s “lol why don’t you try, see how much you like an early hypersonic christmas present”. Cascading apostasy events.

Wulfgar Thundercock III says:

All I want for Christmas is an Iskander! If such a thing happens, we need to meme a Santa hat and a Santa bag of cruise missiles on the picture of Putin riding a bear shirtless.

Red says:

I see a high probability that Kalingrad is nuked or at least fuel-air bombed in response. And the insanity of that response could come from a fair number of different NATO players. Thus my estimate of 50/50 at best. And if the response comes, it’s off to the races.

Jim’s got the right of this. While the war party would like to nuke Kalingrad in return it’s unlikely their orders would be obeyed. Someone who orders an action only to have it ignored will soon be removed from power.

Once people believe that Russia will nuke them if they don’t stop the endless escalation they’re very likely to stop. In order to demonstrate this willingness a righteous example has to be made.

Red says:

When you are on a path that you know will end in terrible violence and very likely death, but the other guy expects that you will back down half way along the road and is probing to find the minimum violence required to extract submission, and since submission is not going to be forthcoming you know where the road leads, but he does not, you can avoid the terrible violence by immediately jumping to the last step on the road just before death or serious injury, and skipping all the intermediate posturing and pissing around.

I speak from experience.

Warning shots used to be common for this very reason. Having an actual bullet flying near you tends to sober up ones perspective.

Wulfgar Thundercock III says:

There is a term for that sort of escalation, but I cannot remember it. Jumping immediately to a level your opponent is not psychologically prepared to go so that they back down before they can psych themselves up to match you. Especially if you are letting the other guy know it will come down hard on him.

Adam says:

Initiative.

Mister Grumpus says:

Not exactly arguing with your “nuke Vilnius” prescription, but connecting to the port Saint Petersburg via ships is still an option. For winter they have some great icebreakers that can keep a corridor open.

I know. They’ll up the blockade some other way next.

A counterpoint though is that time is probably working against the GAE harder than it’s working against Russia. Does this not advocate juking NATO and playing for time?

Pax Imperialis says:

Genocides, like those seen in Asia, are fairly unique in history. Those genocides tends to be fairly comprehensive, thorough, and efficiently organized (The Nazis were fairly inefficient at killing regardless of all their camps, railroads, industrial management compared to the Soviets who manged similar numbers in under a year in Ukraine for significantly less cost). The collective nature of rice agriculture, clan structure, and resultant social networks allow for organized violence rarely seen in the west. (In some ways Russia far more resembles Asia)

You would be better off trying to find similarities between conditions leading up to genocides in Europe (or committed by Europeans) and the current American situation, than looking at something completely alien. That said, America is hardly European anymore. 1/5 of new marriages are between Whites and Hispanics. Demographic and social structure has far more in common with South American nations like Chile, Brazil, or Argentina.

Whiter than Mexico, but darker than Argentina, and also more Asian than both. It brings up an interesting question of what genocides look like in Hispanic nations.

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Genocide doesn’t pop out of nothing, it requires a cohesive group organization to carry it out against other cohesive (thus identifiable) groups.

I posit these modifications to your premise:

“A leftist singularity, cheered on by Harvard, firewalled within sociological and geographic isolation within American coastal and university cities, though it does leak out it does so at a much slower pace.”

“A ruling class/regime, and general population in close proximity to the regime, purged of anyone smart enough to understand what’s going wrong and why.”

The US is big in geographic terms as well as sociological terms. It is too fragmented and heterogeneous for large scale cohesive genocide carried out from the top. The leftist singularity is too isolated within ruling class and proximate populations.

The type of genocide seen in Cambodia or other Asian countries were not carried out by rainbow coalitions but in contrast extremely homogeneous populations. US leftist singularity is a rainbow coalition of BIPOCLGBTQIA+++++WTFs and their most upper class white “allies.”

In short, America is highly decentralized and heterogeneous. Closest example pre-genocide circumstance would be Yugoslavia and even that is a stretch to use an all Slavic example.

Most likely outcome for America is slow disintigration into Brazilian or Argentinian style domestic conflict. Conflict that is constant, decentralized, partly racial at times and partly nonracial at others. Expect lots of political assassinations that due to the extensive multitude of competing factions, can’t fit any single narrative. Few enough Blacks you don’t end up like South Africa. Enough civilized folk to wall themselves off from the dysfunction or live far away. Enough intermediates to keep social distance between the low and high ends.

Fake says:

>It brings up an interesting question of what genocides look like in Hispanic nations.

Iirc, Argentina has few blacks because during yellow fever outbreaks, the black communities were walled up. Everyone got it and died, or maybe starved. There’s also something about blacks being sent to the front lines in the Falkland wars, but I can’t sift through revisionist history to tell how much truth there is.

jim says:

> The type of genocide seen in Cambodia or other Asian countries were not carried out by rainbow coalitions but in contrast extremely homogeneous populations. US leftist singularity is a rainbow coalition of BIPOCLGBTQIA+++++WTFs and their most upper class white “allies.”

There are four factions contending for power, with the war faction currently in the saddle, and currently, alarmed by the worshipers of the Mighty and Awesome Covid Demon grabbing for total, absolute, and complete power, keeping the Covidians down.

The sodomite faction and Gaia worshiper factions are as heterogenous as you describe. The war faction Jewish, and the Covidian faction white and Catholic. Hence well placed to make a grab for total power, and well placed to carry out a Cambodian style autogenocide. If the total power grab by the Covidian faction had succeeded, would have proceeded to autogenocide by endless boosting, and if endless boosting with the old vaccine failed to do the trick, would have introduced a new and even deadlier vaccine.

If the sodomite faction gains the upper hand, the faction that wants to sodomize small boys and girls is fairly homogeneous and quite capable of cohesive action, and may well grab absolute power from the other wildly diverse sexual deviations. The war faction is less likely to commit autogenocide, and more likely to get us into great power war, but when Jews get the upper hand, as in the Soviet Union from 1916 to 1932, they are impressively genocidal towards the host population. The Jewish faction currently rules Kiev, and is starting to look distinctly autogenocidal.

> In short, America is highly decentralized.

The way the big steal in 2020 was carried out in 2020 demonstrates highly centralized.

Similarly, when midway through the Republican primary season, they decided they had to steal the primaries, from there on not only was every primary in every Republican State of the Union stolen, but analogous measures against the outer party started simultaneously in every state of the Global American Empire.

Similarly the attempt at autogenocide by vax, with equivalent measures being applied against dissident doctors simultaneously in every state of the Global American Empire in perfect synchrony.

Anonymous Fake says:

[*deleted*]

jim says:

I would have allowed that through and answered it, for it contains important half truths that should be addressed. But you have been banging on endlessly on the shill meme about woke capitalism (which I have been deleting endlessly after the first half dozen repetitions) and I recently posted the meme warrior reply, which encapsulates the pith of the reactionary position, and I want you to respond to that meme. So I am just not going let anything of yours through until you actually give me a response.

I asked you for script expansion, not just the same old script, and what I just deleted is script expansion. But it is not enough. Respond to the meme warrior response to the shill meme on woke capitalism.

During our entire conversation you have been completely unresponsive, and I am tired of it. I want a reply.

Anonymous Fake says:

I cannot reason with liars. Woke capital [*deleted for all the usual reasons, you have said it all before*]

jim says:

I asked for a response to this meme.

This is not a response to that meme.

If the meme is a lie, or if I am a liar, explain in what that meme is untrue, rather than just giving us the same old Harvard from the child molesting sodomites, very thinly disgused as anti sodomite rant.

Adam says:

Rename him anonymous faggot until he starts to cooperate.

Neurotoxin says:

I was about to say that surely we’ve learned all there is to learn about Anonymous Fake’s shilling style and goals, so he should be perma-banned.

But then it occurred to me that if he’s shilling here, where everyone knows he’s a shill, his fangs are pulled. And if Jim were to ban him he’d go somewhere else where they might not be as sophisticated about dealing with shills.

On the gripping hand, he’s fucking annoying.

Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

Im 49% sure the reason why he has continued inexhaustibly trying to post here in spite of continual frustration of all efforts for years, is because it literally is a chatbot script.

Even a bugman will get burned out eventually. That’s just a matter of sheer psychological physics. Not this guy though; like clockwork, he’s always on it; always replying, and never responding.

Anonymous Fake says:

The meme shows the final consequence of advertising, when you go down the path of manipulating someone’s sentiments it ends in sexual revolution. Burgers are a commodity and attempting to make something more of them by “selling the sizzle” eventually results in absurdity.

The guy selling sodomy thinks it sells anything and unfortunately it usually does. He’s a true believer, not a commissar, as a commissar wouldn’t get a confused response from the boss.

jim says:

This is a flat out barefaced denial of what the meme plainly says.

The adman does not think his job is selling his bosses burgers, and is not interested in using sex to sell them, or using anything else to sell them. He is selling interracial sex.

I asked you to respond to or reply to the meme. Simply ignoring what it says is not a response, and I insist on a response.

alf says:

“The final consequence of advertising” 😂

Your marxism is showing.

Globalist Power Terminated II says:

The meme shows the final consequence of advertising, when you go down the path of manipulating someone’s sentiments it ends in sexual revolution.

What the fuck is this guy on — this is just next-level retarded.

jim says:

Protective stupidity.

Wulfgar Thundercock III says:

Avoiding the gaze of Medusa. If you match gazes with Medusa you are turned to stone and die. If you stare into the abyss long enough the abyss stares back, and you become the abyss. The Gorgon’s Abyss is the leftist’s inability to respond to rightist memes lest he become marked by them, and die at the hands of other leftists.

Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

>The guy selling sodomy thinks it sells anything and unfortunately it usually does.

In other words, the guy selling sodomy is you because you love sodomy and think it should be put in everything, irrespective of whatever ostensible purpose [thing] used to have, and think everyone also thinks like you.

someDude says:

Anonymous Fake’s Scientific worldview: When you pull out the wings of a bird, it goes deaf since it no longer responds to your command to fly away.

Globalist Power Terminated II says:

Anonymous Fake’s Scientific worldview: When you pull out the wings of a bird, it goes deaf since it no longer responds to your command to fly away.

This is exactly the sort of thing he would say unironically.

Cloudswrest says:

Im 49% sure the reason why he has continued inexhaustibly trying to post here in spite of continual frustration of all efforts for years, is because it literally is a chatbot script.

This is actually kind of funny when you think about it. People wasting their time arguing with a robot. Quite labor saving from the shills’ point of view. This got me thinking though. Some of the AIs nowadays are pretty competent, but they are hindered by their owners trying to keep them from becoming “racist”. I wonder if there are any “big iron” AI owners who are not so hindered and train their AIs on places like Jim’s Blog?

Neurotoxin says:

Anon Fake: “The guy selling sodomy thinks it sells anything and unfortunately it usually does.”

LOL, all those normies saying, “Hey, that burger joint advocates sodomy; let’s patronize them.”

Now he’s just trolling us.

We really must build a museum to hold some of Anonymous Fake’s particularly brilliant insights of wisdom lest they get lost in the mists of time.

restitutor_orbis says:

I am increasingly worried that the attempted autogenocide by vax might turn out to be a successful attempt. The number of people I know who are suffering unexpected cancers, strokes, and so on, or who have a lost family to the same, has made me update the risk of mass die-off from “a scary but unlikely outcome” to “a plausible situation.”

How do you see things playing out if a lot of people start dying from “sudden adult death syndrome” in the next few years?

jim says:

The purebloods are already saying “I told you so”, but nobody hears, or rather no one admits to hearing.

someDude says:

I fear that they will hear only too well and start attacking purebloods soon. Most people have the mentality of Anonymous Fake. All their anger and rage will be channeled towards those who escaped harm rather than those who harmed them.

Jehu says:

It’s perverted, but sadly oh so common. They can not deny their rage. But if they directed it at those that have power, they fear they’d be punished. So they deflect it onto those they think they can attack without punishment.

What’s the fancy name for that? Displacement.

Karl says:

Why are you worried that the attempted autogenocide by vax might turn out to be a successful attempt?

Look at who is vaxxed and who is not. There is more reason to hope than to worry.

restitutor_orbis says:

That’s a fair question. The honest answer is that most of my friends and family took the vax. Vaccine genocide means the loss of essentially everyone I care about, with two exceptions (my wife and my elderly mother).

And it’s not like these are leftists who deserve what they get. All of my remaining family and friends are right-leaning (the leftists long ago cut me off); it’s just that they are normies. They believed the vaccine was safe because Trump said it was, and they took it. I don’t wish anything ill to befall them. But illness is already starting to befall them. 🙁

Yul Bornhold says:

So far, vax seems to kill a small (but noticeable) amount of people but, for most, simply damaging health, like seed oils. Don’t know yet whether it will prove fatal long term for most people. Hope not. Like you, I’ve some family who took it.

The Cominator says:

What part of the country are you in? I don’t see that many right leaning people took the vax here in Florida… and as much as I love the politics of Florida I can’t say I’m surrounded by critical thinking intellectuals as opposed to right wing normies.

Pooch says:

Vaccine genocide (outright murder) doesn’t fit with the past actions of the elite. Infertility of the population would align better.

jim says:

One shot of vaccine drops sperm production considerably. In twenty percent of men, to zero.

Pooch says:

Any information of the effect on female fertility?

jim says:

Spontaneous abortions and irregular menstruation – probably as some men fail to produce sperm, some women fail to produce eggs.

Pax Imperialis says:

The American left is a coalition of a multitude of competing factions. That is not too dissimilar to the Spanish left prior to their civil war. Too much factionalism and it fails to operate. The left are united in a shared disdain and even hatred of White America. The left is also united due to shared necessity. The war party can enforce what the other factions want, but the other faction have the vote banks that the war party needs. The war party is the belt strap that holds the left together.

Problem with that setup is that the competent leadership of the war faction is old and dying off. The belt might just come off… Political rearrangement would occur.

White America is rapidly disappearing… unless Hispanics are considered White. Without a clear racial enemy, the left will increasingly incorporate traditional class warfare as seen in Latin America. We see that with AOC and Sanders rise in the party.

More likely than genocide is the type of conflict as seen in the Spanish Civil War or the targeting of Catholics in Mexico. Lots of atrocities and mass killings by leftists, but nowhere at the level of Cambodia. Not to say they don’t want to, they certainly do. It’s a question of capability to carry out organized systematic killings.

On the question of centralized vs decentralized America is both. There are centralized elements as you point out, but that’s missing the Forrest for the trees. Overall America is fairly decentralized. The difference between a New Yorker and a Chicagoan is likely large than the difference between a German and a French. The difference between an Austin Texan and a Dallas Texan is also massive. Even in White America prior to mass immigration in the 60s there is tremendous cultural variance.

American culture is decentralized which leads to wide variation in political values and expression and thus a multi-polar power competition within the US.

Severian says:

Russia has completed the first major encirclement in the Donbas.
Ukrainians in Hirske and Zolote are now completely surrounded. They will then move to surround Lisichansk from the south.

https://twitter.com/GeromanAT/status/1539605059641696256/photo/1

Mister Grumpus says:

All right that’s it. I’m schitzo now. The Keev people are trying to (launder money and) kill off their own Army.

It’s a Holodomor, but of their own armed forces. “We meant well.” “It was an accident.” “It was for a good cause.” “It just didn’t work out.” Incredible.

Prove me wrong I beg you.

jim says:

Jews and leftists just hate warrior types. They just cannot help themselves.

Kiev is trying to wipe out its own army. Modeling our opponents as sane is inaccurate.

Mister Grumpus says:

English speaking armed forces are obviously next. Same reasons, same mechanism, same ends, same means.

What on earth does one do with this perspective/information (assuming he lacks the IQ to hand build crypto castles of scriptless scripting brilliance)?

Pooch says:

Not following. Encirclements happen in war. It is not like the Ukes are trying to be encircled.

Mister Grumpus says:

Do you believe (((the Keev people))) really think they can win the war with Russia now?

Or rather, is this “stand and fight or get shot” business, at this point, just to hold onto power a little bit longer, and physically remove the people who can defect to Putin, depose them, and save their own country from further death and destruction?

(Surely Hitler was on this same trip once the Red Army was crossing Poland. Just saying.)

Pooch says:

The US is fighting Russia to the last Ukrainian.

Kunning Drueger says:

Encirclement happens, but so does defeat or ambush or rout. Ex post facto, it can appear as if a force let an encirclement happen, or courted defeat willingly, or was avoidably routed. Did the US “let” Vietnam win? Did Napoleon choose to be routed?

Sometimes, political entities with control of tactical or strategic elements but not present in the battlespace adopt policies or positions that very obviously lead to defeat; the Whigs during the American revolution, the Congress during the American War, the destruction of Rhodesia. Do these situations validate the assertion made by the defeated military men that the politicians lost the war and not them? If so, is it accurate to say that they were trying to lose?

I believe it is the case in UKR that the power animating the leadership is actively getting soldiers killed (because predominantly white males), and that the leadership is actively getting soldiers killed through zealous posturing intended to signal nationalist fervor.

suones says:

Do these situations validate the assertion made by the defeated military men that the politicians lost the war and not them? If so, is it accurate to say that they were trying to lose?

You just enumerated examples of military victory/stalemate converted to defeat by priestly failure. Rhodesia in particular was a priestly operation through and through. There was literally no military force on the ground capable of dealing with the Selous Scouts, short of US Marines going in (or more likely, UK Commandos). Similarly, in WWI, the German Army could’ve potentially fought France to a standstill, and negotiated an Armistice on equal terms. But their priests failed, the Kaiser lost his nerve, and capitulation was the result. A contemporary counter-example lies in their ally Turkey, where warrior-priest Ataturk dismissed the Mullahs, took command, and routed the enemy so thoroughly on the home front that Gallipolli remains a huge patriotic event in Turkey and Ataturk ascending to absolute power all but guaranteed Turkey an honourable settlement (that Turkey continues to milk to this day).

In the American War of Northern Aggression, if ever the South had had priestly power, they would’ve marched straight on to Boston after Bull Run, destroyed Harvard, captured DC and laid the foundations for a lasting victory.

So yes, while the warriors were “trying to win,” they were instead defeating the wrong enemy after wrong enemy, wearing themselves thin, while the priests who were supervising the whole thing actually did want them to lose. America falls into the same category in WWII. The GAE is fundamentally opposed to Amerikaner, and will kill them first. Imagine Vietnam, on a global scale.

Severian says:

Russian MoD claims some Ukrainian units in that area suffered 50+% casualties and refused orders to keep fighting, retreating from the area. Hence why the fast closing of that pocket.

Kunning Drueger says:

Severian has taken a pretty consistent approach to where he stands and what he posts about. Contrast the tone and content with Basil, the anti-Putin Pole, and join me in puzzling how he has disappeared just as the GAE began retooling their Ukraine War shill ops. I bet he reappears when the GAE picks its path with a completely coincidental alignment. 😐

Globalist Power Terminated II says:

Oh my goodness! 😂

Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

When it is pointed out that Russia has long standing treaties which stipulate a guarantee of land-access to Prussia, the NPC response seems to boil down to ‘If Russia isn’t willing to escalate, then Lithuania (the GAE) has nothing to lose by wiping its ass with merely written agreements between states whenever convenient’.

Do they – which is to say, the people putting out the word to the NPC herd – not see what lies at the end of this train of thought? (That’s a trick question.)

If they are merely a curious subspecies of bipedal animal that ultimately only cares about whether you have the power to hurt it or not, and that if it can get away with victimizing another party, it will – then the only thing wrong with Russia’s invasion is that it didn’t happen sooner. That they were always and already at war, that the GAE always sought to undermine Russia and reduce it to a vassal state like the rest of Europe, and that the only way this ends is when one or the other is ended.

Kunning Drueger says:

https://youtu.be/qciVozNtCDM

Mearsheimer, very recent too. He speaks to a tiny room of GAE NPCs, all of whom can’t wait to demonstrate their holiness. Mearsheimer systematically explains precisely how NATO precipitated the conflict, building a concise and explicit timeline with dates and quotes. It’s elegant and horrifying. And they just… hear nothing. This one video is making me rethink my position; I don’t think they realize what’s happening, like the Arawak looking through Columbus’ ships. Of course, Blinken and close company know what they’re doing. They want a limited nuclear exchange. But I don’t think the academics are on board, though not because they wouldn’t be, rather they cannot conceive of a world wherein their entire framework false. They have no agency. They were combating a deadly, mystery pandemic with robust measures and a safe, effective vaccine when, out of nowhere and for no reason at all, Putin invaded the ancient West European nation of Ukraine.

jim says:

> Blinken and close company know what they’re doing.

Not necessarily, rather I think it the other way around.

When a mule stuffs ballot boxes with fake ballots, she knows what she is doing, I can see that in her shady demeanor. And therefore chances are that the people who physically printed up the fake ballots know what they are doing also. But I am pretty sure the people who paid the mules and the printers and who give them their orders think they are making every vote count, fighting Republican voter suppression, and saving democracy.

Anonymous Fake has trouble responding to our woke capitalism meme, because he would have to ask his supervisor for a script expansion, but his supervisor is not allowed to see the meme, lest it might make him think, and his supervisor does not want to see our memes, since thinking would hurt.

You can also see this in that the left cannot meme. They cannot meme, because they cannot think the thoughts that the memes need to address.

Pax Imperialis says:

They are flat out incapable of thinking the foreign thoughts. It’s not a question of permission or not wanting to think. They flat out cannot think outside the box they were either born with or given.

I can put myself in the shoes of a communist, a fascist, a libertarian, a conservative, a German, a Russian, a Chinese, etc. I can understand their way of thinking. I can understand their way of feeling. I can sympathize with their desires.

That’s what most people in the realist IR camp* can do. That is not what most people can do.

Anonymous Fake is flat out incapable of thinking complex/abstract ideas. No amount of script extension solves the underlying problem.

*Interestingly enough, many engineers who are not social spergs can do the same. Considering how much of China’s political leadership are engineers likely serves as an explanation on why the Chinese understand America better than the Americans.

jim says:

Scott Alexander was not stupid. On the contrary he came up with no end of elaborately ingenious ways of believing things insane, stupid, self contradictory, evil, and self destructive. And in due course started banning everyone who persistently poked at the obvious holes in his reasoning.

Pax Imperialis says:

Talking about generalities. Most people, regardless of intelligence, can not sincerely play devil’s advocate. They can not think hypothetically. They don’t have empathy for the “wrong” set of ideas from the wrong set of people. This happens at all levels of intelligence. Their mind sees wrong think and automatically shuts off interacting with it. It is pathological.

It’s a dominant personality type on the left but is also fairly common one on the right. This isn’t a question of intelligence.

If a person doesn’t have empathy for both sides of a conflict, then they really don’t understand the conflict.

As for Anonymous Fake… well he’s no Scott Alexander from what I’ve seen makes it through.

Vlad says:

Whose that remind me of

Kunning Drueger says:

Get lost, faggot

Mister Grumpus says:

@Jim:
“You can also see this in that the left cannot meme. They cannot meme, because they cannot think the thoughts that the memes need to address.”

Whether to argue for, or argue against, they can’t think them. That’s it.

This is ThoughtCrime/CrimeStop’s most crucial insight, at least to me. I’ve never seen it made anywhere else than right here.

This suggests to me that even the concept of “polite debate” is therefore fundamentally BS, but I can’t quite put it into words succinctly. Please help.

Cloudswrest says:

This is the reason Scott Evil in Austin Powers is so funny. He is the only character who speaks common sense and the other characters either ignore him or tell him to shut up.

Adam says:

It is also among Christians what they refer to as the Holy Spirit “interceding”.

It’s all cognitive dissonance.

Kunning Drueger says:

Polite Debate is something Polite People do in a Polite Society. With no formal hierarchy, no informal rules of decorum, and no shared purposes or desires, there can be no debate, polite or otherwise. Instead, every conversation is a knife fight, every argument is an opportunity to damage and degrade, and every person is both a dupe and a danger. This is pure, distilled anti-whiteness; intellectual white-wolf-white. One of the many cursed legacies of Gramscii and the Frankfurt School.

Pax Imperialis says:

I rolled my eyes a couple of times with the audience questions but that guy in the back with yellow pants gave me a headache.

This relates back to what I was talking about with nuance. Most people can’t mentally operate with nuance in general. Even more so in a charged political situation.

Most people, academics included, are not capable of mentally operating in ambiguity. Things are either right or wrong. Good or evil. 1 or 0.

That is not a criticism of binary thinking, it’s quite useful when you don’t have the time to determine if that Saber Tooth Tiger is going to eat you or not. You’ll live longer thinking in simplistic terms that all Tigers are evil and should be avoided/killed on sight.

It’s not that they don’t realize what’s happening. It’s that they are flat out incapable of realizing in the first place.

IR requires looking at the situation from both sides. Accurately and sincerely putting oneself in the mindset of for example both the American and the Russian ethos/culture/politics/etc. Few are even capable. For most of those capable, it is extremely hard because it’s easy to slip into one sided moral frameworks.

There is a reason why Machiavelli was considered amoral and evil never-mind the terminological contradiction of such a thing…

I’ve said this before, and I will say this repeatedly in the future in many different ways, most people are completely incapable of conceptualizing other points of view. Most people are completely incapable of conceptualizing something being both right and wrong or something being neither right or wrong.

Most people live with no shades of gray. If the reverse were true, engineers and realist IR wouldn’t be such a small group of people.

Adam says:

I agree with this assessment and add that quite a lot of it is driven by fear, and the need for the illusion of control. Simple mindedness, black and white thinking, emotional reasoning etc. these are all primitive tools used by everyone early in life. They are survival tools.

Kazimierz Dąbrowski a Polish psychologist created a theory called “Positive Disintegration” where he describes 5 levels of consciousness. Basically starting with psychosis (emotional and psychological scarcity), to what you described, NPC behavior, and several steps of growth leading to stage 5 multi-level positive integration (complete self awareness and mastery).

His work explains how people get through those 5 stages, basically a series of psychological and emotional fitness tests. Very often people will repeatedly attempt throughout their life to get further, only to fail a certain test again, and slide backwards.

It’s interesting, and everything I’ve read of his stuff, which is just the basics, holds true in my experience.

Kunning Drueger says:

Please link and/or drop quotes when you get a chance, if you’re willing.

Adam says:

Will do- https://positivedisintegration.com/

Pretty congruent with the red pill and our views on evolutionary fitness, as well as spirituality. He makes the case that these levels are naturally occurring and people are built to psychologically and emotionally heal and grow.

Alfred says:

Can anyone give a recommendation for an honest, non-PC account of the Middle Ages in Western Europe? Google is cluttered with recent releases from 2008 and on that scream woke from the authors and titles.

The older, the better. Thank you in advance.

ExileStyle says:

Do you have a more specific focus of interest? That’s a huge sphere of study covering nearly a millennium and many nations and languages.

I’d always go with primary sources when possible. If you want to know what the real lives of real people were like, read the Decameron or the Canterbury Tales. If you want to take the chronicles/hard history route, Froissart’s are great for the late Middle Ages (14th century), and Gregory of Tours’ History of the Franks is a really fun read covering the very early Middle Ages.

Don’t bother with anything about the era written in the 18th century or later…except maybe Oswald Spengler’s Decline of the West, which contains a spectacular synthetic history of the Middle Ages, if you’re into Spengler’s thing. (Which you probably are if you are here.)

If you’re really in a hurry, I remember Barbara Tuchman’s A Distant Mirror being a snappy, readable overview of the late Middle Ages based on Froissart’s chronicles, but I read it pre-redpill so can’t 100% vouch for its frame…

Scissors says:

Tuchman’s “Guns of August”, Preface, third sentence: “As the center and source of the Judaeo-Christian religion, …”

Stop right there. The whole entire point of Christianity is the claim that the Jewish status as the only chosen people has been superseded and the old covenant replaced with a new one. The whole entire point of modern Judaism is rejection of Christianity and denial of Christ’s divinity. These two positions are not reconcilable.

Whatever position one takes on Jews and their net impact on modern society, it is simply not possible to honestly claim that these two religions are one and the same.

Barbara Tuchman (who, btw, was Jewish), is an excellent writer. Just be aware: she’s lying to you from the start.

Alfred says:

If I had to pick a specific focus or a few, I’d say specifically England, the era of the Crusades, and the transition from Germanic barbarian kingdoms into feudalism.

But thank you for the recommendations, I will look into them.

Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

For an introduction, ‘The Discarded Image’ by C. S. Lewis serves well.

Aidan says:

It’s hard to find a good one. I’d say read primary sources and apply Jimian synthesis. Froude’s “History of England” is technically about the Renaissance, it only covers the 16th century, but it gives a good glimpse into how politics worked back then. Because the middle ages were the first attacked by leftists, older books are not necessarily more reliable. I haven’t read Coulanges’ works on the middle ages but I assume they’re solid.

A recent book that impressed me was Heart of Europe, which while narratively flaccid is so meticulously dense and well-researched (infodump style of history) that a lot of stuff that wouldn’t be allowed to be published were it focused on is allowed to slip by. Of course, you must simply ignore the author’s own interpretation of history and use it as a building block.

I second Exile’s recommendation of Spengler’s account of the Middle Ages, but it’s buried deep in Decline of the West, which should be read, but not a lot of people have the patience to digest it.

Alfred says:

Thank you, I will look into these.

Kunning Drueger says:

This is fascinating, hilarious, and repulsive:

“A number of claims and counterclaims are being made on the Ukraine-Russia conflict on the ground and online. While GlobalSecurity.org takes utmost care to accurately report this news story, we cannot independently verify the authenticity of all statements, photos and videos.”

[…]

“One hundred and nineteenth day of the Ukrainian nation’s heroic confrontation with the Russian military invasion continues.

Ukraine’s defense forces have almost completely destroyed the “elite” of Russia’s western military district, which they were preparing to oppose NATO. This was reported by the Ukraine Security Service, citing the interception of conversations between the Russian occupiers. The SBU notes that these Russian units were completely defeated by the Armed Forces, and only those soldiers who refused to invade Ukraine survived.”

[…]

” ‘Our defense intelligence service believes that Russia may reach the point in the next few months where it has no more impetus as it exhausts its resources,’ said Boris Johnson. ‘In that case, we must help the Ukrainians to reverse the dynamics. I will appeal for it at the G7 summit in Germany’ he announced.

” ‘If the Ukrainians are able to launch a counteroffensive, it should be supported. The equipment they expect from us,’ he said. When asked what would happen after a possible victory for Ukraine, he replied: ‘At least we will regain the status quo from before February 24, and Russian troops will be driven out of the areas attacked by them.’

Here’s a link to the full article:
https://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/war/russo-ukraine-2022-06-22.htm

If you decide to subject yourself to this schlock, you will see that the truth is buried in a scattered smattering throughout the article: Ukraine is losing, badly. But the prose intimates the exact opposite: Russia just cannot seem to be successful while they annihilate UKR forces and take territory.

From the same source, a different article:

“Russian forces pounded the Donbas region in eastern Ukraine on June 22 as they sought to completely encircle the last pocket of Ukrainian resistance in the embattled cities of Lysychansk and Syevyerodonetsk in the Luhansk region.”

[…]

“The British bulletin highlighted what it called the “extraordinary” attrition rate among the Moscow-backed separatist forces in the Donetsk region, which, based on figures published by the separatist authorities — more than 2,100 killed and almost 8,900 wounded — is equivalent to around 55 percent of its original force.

The report said the separatists appeared to be equipped with outdated Russian weapons and equipment.

It noted that Russian regular forces, which haven’t published official casualty figures since March 25, are likely to have suffered similarly high losses.

Ukraine has not published official casualty figures, which it keeps secret, but various officials including President Volodymyr Zelenskiy have suggested as many as 100 Ukrainian soldiers are being killed every day.”

[…]

“In Syevyerodonetsk, Ukrainian defenders held on to the Azot chemical plant in the city. About 500 civilians are sheltering at the plant, and Hayday said in an interview with AP that Russian forces were turning the area ‘into ruins.'”

Here’s the link; it’s basically a rehash of the first one, with added details:
https://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/library/news/ukraine/2022/06/ukraine-220622-rferl01.htm

Civilians are dying, and Russia is using artillery! Facts, my guy. But, regardless of the phrasing, these are unrelated facts. UKR is going after non-military targets, using human shields, and suffering terribly. This propaganda is peak WWII.

So, according to Luttwack, GAE intel is a joke, a sprawling bureaucracy resting on laurels long rotten. According to our own lying eyes, GAE 4th estate is living in a fantasy land. GAE military is expending reserve stocks, castrating its capabilities, and drinking from the same Kool aid trough as Intel and Media. In one of those articles, some nobody from Lithuania is nervously certain that it’s perfectly fine to poke the bear, as Lithuania is part of NATO. As we all know, NATO has the USM, and the USM doesn’t lose battles, war, territory, or its tenuous grip on reality.

The GAE is hopscotching its way toward destruction.

Varna says:

> In Syevyerodonetsk, Ukrainian defenders held on to the Azot chemical plant in the city. About 500 civilians are sheltering at the plant,

Once we learn that “gender affirming healthcare” means “cutting off your dick/tits and destroying your endocrine system”, then of course “being held hostage by” becomes “sheltering at”.

Kunning Drueger says:

Varna, you always provide excellent sources. I’m looking for a detailed account of a specific battle or limited engagement in the Special Operation. This is for a creative project, so the actual truth is secondary to the details. Can you give me something you’ve seen, point me towards a good source, or generally advise me on how to go about finding it? Something like this: https://www.thoughtco.com/iraq-war-second-battle-of-fallujah-2360957

Kunning Drueger says:

Off topic.

Hey Jim, check out this excerpt:

“There was a logic to the Afghanistan that existed before the Taliban, the Mujahedeen, the Soviet invasion, and communist usurpation. In this Afghanistan, the king reigned but did not rule. The state was stable but its reach was short: public order was preserved by the leaders of the village and the tribe. Tribal life mattered most to Afghanistan’s largest ethnic group, the Pashtuns. The Pashtuns esteemed those who lived according to Pashtunwali, the Pashtun code of honor. One conviction coursed through the social world of Pashtunwali: A Pashtun bows to no man.

In this system, the job of the village elder and tribal khan was to provision their clans, secure their womenfolk from outside eyes, and resolve disputes without slighting or belittling the other men of their community. Elaborate customs of hospitality and lengthy council meetings allowing every man equal say were the main tools khans used to quash quarrels and share honor. Failure to resolve a quarrel through council led to resolution by feud. Tribesmen had no compunction exchanging eyes for eyes. The goal was less punishment than parity: feuds would end when both sides had equal red in their ledger. Experienced leaders balanced the demands of corporate honor with the urgency of ending the violence before it engulfed the entire tribe. Abstract moral rules did not guide their decision-making. As Malkasian comments: “Whatever was in the interests of the tribe was right: Pashtun realpolitik.”

Under the traditional order young men sought distinction through acts of courage and daring. Old men, in turn, were distinguished from their peers by demonstrating the wisdom, foresight, and persuasive power needed to constrain their young men from taking reckless action.”

Here’s the source: https://palladiummag.com/2022/04/15/the-taliban-were-afghanistans-real-modernizers/

This request might be excessive, but would you consider doing a deep dive post on how a hypothetical man should construct a theoretical tribe in Minecraft? It occurs to me that the taliRay B@n sunglasses collective actually have a model worth emulating, but it is not really built for Christian culture and geography.

Aidan says:

Who says it’s not built for Christian culture and geography? Looks to me like when large-scale cooperation collapses, and a Dark Age ensues, the ancient Aryan clannish mode of life re-emerges, Christian or not. My great ancestors in the highlands of Scotland lived an existence remarkably similar to the green-eyed and frequently blonde Pashtun until they lost a war against the British due to their inability to cooperate, and large-scale cooperation was imposed on them with force. At which point they went on to massively punch above their demographic weight in war, engineering, science, and adventure.

War and hardship forces the white man back into clans. If you and I were to found one, because we’re not actually related, and do not believe in the divinity of ancestors, we would adopt a symbol, call ourselves Clan Odonata lets say, paint a dragonfly and a cross on our guns and trucks, marry some relatives to each other, and we have a clan. But, unlikely to form true clan bonds on the level the Pashtun until there is physical danger and extreme hardship.

The Cominator says:

Ussually clan culture requires a pastoral life which involves livestock stealing too though.

Globalist Power Terminated II says:

yes, and?

The Cominator says:

The dark age would have to go very bad for it to come to that…

Kunning Drueger says:

If dark age, then Bad. There’re no shades of gray in existential terms. From our lofty, postmodern heights, of course we can construct a taxonomy for an arbitrary gradient. From the position of the descendants of the survivors, much could be discussed regarding counterfactuals and what ifs. From the position of the little boy hunting rats, the father deciding which child to feed, the mother using her pussy for breadwinning, it’s absolute awfulness.

My blackpills are all existential through the lens of societal collapse. I can’t think of anything more depressing, more crippling, than the inexorable slide towards Collapse. To be fair, I’ve never once struggled to get women’s attention, nor have I unintentionally been homeless or poor. Those blackpilled by women or finance seem trite and stupid to me, but maybe I’m just privileged.

Wulfgar Thundercock III says:

Perhaps we could institute a special form of livestock stealing. Wife raiding!

suones says:

[*deleted for enemy memetics*]

jim says:

You point at enemies of our enemies, and tell us they are our enemies.

They have been our enemies in the past, and likely will be again in the future. Right now, not our enemies, and unlikely to become so again until the Global American Empire is defeated.

We have an adequate supply of enemies, looking for more is not a good idea.

The Cominator says:

Muslims?

jim says:

“Muslim” has same meaning as “Islam” and “Islamic”. Presupposes that Mohammedanism is the true religion, Christianity false, and Christians deserving of war at the earliest potential opportunity.

In civil and friendly conversations with Mohammedans, they should call themselves Muslims, and we should call them Mohammedans, and neither party should take offense.

The Cominator says:

Since they seem lately more inclined to be hostile to globohomo and less inclined to kill christian civilians (including even non government commercial targets) I’m using the polite name. I don’t trust them and I will always hold a grudge for 9/11 which did much to put the US on an accelerated bad road… but I think its unwise to insult co-belligerents out of hand (co-belligerents not allies).

During the long period of hostility following 9/11 I generally referred to them as “moon worshippers”.

Kunning Drueger says:

You have to ask yourself why we have no Mohammedans in this synthetic tribe. They will never be allies. The enemy of my enemy is none of my concern.

The Cominator says:

I didn’t say they would ever be allies… i said they were co belligerents as distinct from allies.

Kunning Drueger says:

I get that. Ideology is multipolar always. Geography is GNON’s gift to competing ideologies, races, and tribes. I’ve come to believe the Great Filter is maintaining multipolar sovereignty up to Kardashev 01. The alternatives are holistic collapse or Borg. I sincerely hope my descendants gets to do battle with Mohammedans over portions of the Oort Cloud.

chris says:

I feel sad for these men. Their lives are being thrown away for nothing.

https://twitter.com/200_zoka/status/1539724261421711365

someDude says:

Normality bias. They’ll probably shoot you if you tell them that their lives are being thrown away for nothing.

chris says:

How many were conscripted against their will? How many are worried being shot by their own side as they surrender?

someDude says:

Good point! My Bad. Yeah, this sucks. Too many good men being lost for such an unworthy cause. Happens too many times. Very Black-pilling.

C4ssidy says:

These guys would have seen democracy and gay parades come to them years ago. If they had any significant honor or righteousness to them , would they not have gone rogue and lit up the room the first time they were handed a rifle and magazine?

chris says:

So a regular man, not a hero, not Achilles, not General Patton, but a regular man, thrown into a room, conscripted against his will, should shoot up said room, full of his countrymen who are also regular men likely conscripted against their will, in defiance of a degenerate GAE ideology that likely hasn’t impacted his life in any way, or had sufficient time to metastasise to the point where its degeneracy and destruction of his culture and society is obvious?

There are normies in the west who don’t yet recognise the harm caused by globohomo, yet you expect poor men from poor villages in a post soviet developing country to be Philosopher Kings.

suones says:

[*enemy meme deleted*]

jim says:

The actual fighting men of the US military are our guys, but we cannot and should not expect them to rebel against the enemy officers leading them until we can offer them alternative plausibly legitimate leadership.

Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

What’s the enemy meme?

jim says:

That we should hate and fear our allies, and publicly discuss plans to minecraft them.

Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

Well if he intends to argue that point, does he not have the privilege of arguing it? You’ve said as much yourself for far worse posters, including actual unironic glowniggers.

jim says:

Such a debate would be carried far and wide by our enemies to our allies in the military. They would frame misleading fragments of replies by myself with false context.

When the time comes for our enemies in the officer corp to order our allies in the military to kill us, they would warm the troops up with a pep talk of those falsely framed fragments.

Globalist Power Terminated II says:

This is one of Jim’s eerily specific predictions that comes from seemingly nowhere and makes one wonder: “how dafuq did he figure that out”. 😳

Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

We’ve had all kinds of debates on this blog, on all kinds of topics, that have gone in all kinds of directions (hypothetically or otherwise), that all kinds of misleading fragments could be lifted from, if one were to spend the effort. I don’t see what makes this topic any more different; or rather, i’d say it’s a particularly important topic to fill out, if anything.

someDude says:

Jim, Like DharmicReality I too disagree with this particular interpretation of acting from detachment.

A person who lives in this world and who acts in this world, cannot perform any action with detachment. Detachment means a lack of motivation in performing an action. Whether it is evil or not is moot and academic. The fact is that it is impossible. What action can possibly be taken without a motive.

Thus, when it becomes necessary to kill Kin in a Holy war, one kills kin with the motivation of protecting and preserving what is holy and sacred. Not with the motivation of grabbing the women and property of their kinsfolk.

There are several Hindus who reject that interpretation of the word detachment. The Gita has a long history, Sanskrit has a long history. In this long time, the meanings of words changes. I’m pretty sure the sanskrit word that is now being used to mean detachment used to mean something else in those days.

One example is the Sankrit word for contemplation has now come to mean worry, another word that used to mean sensation has now come to mean sorrow. In the English language itself, note how in 3 generations, the word Gay went from describing a happy state of mind to someone who is a homosexual.

Karl says:

Who is the “we” you are writing about? This blog is a priestly activity. Priests can provide moral justification and maybe support, but leadership is something for warriors.

Maybe there are warriors here. Hard to know with bloggers hidding their identities. Priests are certainly here.

As soon as the actual fighting men of the US military rebel they are providing leadership.

The Cominator says:

Random minecrafting low level targets is insane and stupid but lets not pretend that its possible to have gone thru 2020 and Biden wrecking the economy and not have seen globohomo and the damage its done…

You can’t unless you’re actively part of the problem… and Ukraine since 2014 has the post Soviet poverty + globohomo so it has to be even worse.

Globalist Power Terminated II says:

I’m as enthusiastic about minecraft as you are… but chill lol.
Lots of people remain to be red pilled.

The Cominator says:

I said freelance minecrafting is stupid.

Severian says:

Bringing it back to information epoch.

I can’t tell if this battle in the Donbas is a one off, but it would be ironic if the result of information epoch weapons were to be the end of fast maneuver warfare and a return to long and brutal wars of attrition. Because no one in the west has the morale or industrial capacity to fight a war like this.

Maybe even NATO’s paradigm of air supremacy is now put into question. After all the Russian airforce can’t freely roam the skies yet, even with the limited air defenses of the Ukrainians. So what’s the likelihood of NATO airforce routing a more sophisticated air defense network like Russia’s?

Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

That’s the take some of the remnants of the old military technocracy in America have. The term they use is ‘salvo economy’, which is basically the the jousting match between platforms for striking targets, and platforms for intercepting enemy platforms – which are often the same platforms, in different mission modes. (Eg, this is an illustrative abstract https://csbaonline.org/uploads/documents/Crossroads_presentation_-_Web.pdf )

For everyone else outside residual circles like these running the clown show, it’s less that they are wrong about these issues, and more like they haven’t even thought of them at all.

jim says:

Both sides are learning that the art of war has changed.

Air supremacy is no longer a thing.

Two rather small groups of Ukrainian troops are now surrounded. It may be quite a while before they surrender. By that time there may well be considerably larger groups surrounded.

The Ukraine successfully turned it into a grueling World War I style war, which is intolerable form of warfare, for even the winner is exhausted.

The Russians are trying to find a way to win that bypasses attrition. But so far, have wound up doing attrition.

Tanks are no longer tanks. They are mobile artillery, and I see no reason why mobile artillery should not be mounted in technicals rather than tanks. The tanks hide behind grunts, for fear of anti tank weapons, rather than charging out in front of grunts as in World War II.

But, tanks and mobile artillery are vulnerable to drones. Both sides are figuring out the new hierarchy of warfare.

In world war I, it took ten thousand shells to kill one grunt. But with drones observing, one shell one grunt. This should make World War I style attritive warfare a non starter, and yet it continues.

One would expect the side attempting to fight an attritive World War I war to suffer terrible casualties, and we have some reason to suppose the Ukes are suffering terrible casualties. The continuation of attritive warfare may reflect the typical desire of Jewish rulers to genocide their goy subjects. Or it may be working. The Russians are advancing at a creep, with lots of failures and gaining an unimpressive amount of territory in each expensive success. So far, by this measure, it is working. On the other hand, we have seen some substantial collapses by demoralized Ukrainian troops. Maybe as attrition continues, there are going to be some rather larger collapses.

Karl says:

How expensive are Russian successes? I have not seen any data on Russian losses.

If one side has grunts in trench, and the other side has artillery losses might be rather one-sided

Jehu says:

I understand that Russia has absolutely outrageous amounts of old tanks, some even going back to WW2 vintage mothballed for occasions like this. T-62s apparently make quite satisfactory mobile artillery, and they still have hordes of them. That’s probably why they’re not using technicals.

Mister Grumpus says:

Sure why not. Just use up the old junk. They won’t need it later, that’s for fucking sure. Does it roll? Does it shoot? OK fine, go, figure something out.

But yes, the next level is just straight up bolting howitzers to those KAMAZ off-road semi truck trailers with monster tires and kickass suspensions. I can’t wait! What’s “Mad Max” in Russian?

Jehu says:

It’s got a 125 mm gun if I recall. That’s plenty for most of their purposes.

Mister Grumpus says:

Do you (Jim) “take back” your earlier take that Ukr had figured out IEW? Did you read the shadows wrong? Did something change? What could that have been?

I don’t get it either. Is it just that the Russians figured out that they were being stupid, and stopped being stupid, but don’t know anything else now besides skull-to-skull artillery bashing?

jim says:

The Russians and the Ukrainians are both improving their game, but are both primarily relying on obsolete weapons, tactics, and strategy.

Recollect that tanks were around for a long time before people figured out how to use them, and stirrups were around for a very long time before we had cavalry charges.

Information epoch warfare is inherently attritive, but the trick is to do what Trump did. Strike at the key vertices of the social and communications graph of the enemy network. The Russians are getting better at this, but they still suck.

Information Epoch warfare is the left strategy of deplatforming, cancelling, and demonetizing, except supplemented with high explosives.

It requires intense focus on social and computer network penetration – the left’s vast army of shills and entryists, and our computer hackers.

The NSA used to be by far the best in the world at computer network penetration, though their competence now appears to be rapidly diminishing. They are still collecting enormous amounts of data, but these days it is mostly the low hanging fruit.

Despite all the bullshit about Russian hackers, the Russian intelligence agencies truly suck at computer penetration, though they recently had an impressive victory which suggests that they penetrated the American computer network used for Ukrainian artillery targeting. The should hire our guys – except that our guys are hard to find.

Mister Grumpus says:

The WWI analogy is fascinating, though, because they first used airplanes for artillery spotting back then too. Now it’s drones. But for a while, military aviation was just a weird circus show for the “real war” happening elsewhere. Drones started out kinda like that just a few months ago.

One thing I vaguely recall is how a daring bit of airplane-based reconnaissance daring-do blew the cover of a big important Russian troop movement and got them all fucked over really badly. It’s in Guns of August somewhere. (Somebody check me.) So they remember that.

skippy says:

Since this seems like a good place to ask, what is the most accurate and reliable English translation of the Old Testament?

(I understand from reading comments here that the translation issues are different for the Old Testament compared to the New Testament)

Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

KJV, Douay-Rheims, and Young Literal are the strongest options. When checking passages i find it profitable to have all three open.

C4ssidy says:

Steven Anderson has a lot of sermons going into the details of why he is KJV only and why the modern translations are atrocious and satanic, can be funny to listen to, but it is probably easier to point out that the Orthodox use KJV for the Old Testament in their English Study Bible

ExileStyle says:

Well, here it is. Roe and Casey overruled:

“Held: The Constitution does not confer a right to abortion; Roe and Casey
are overruled; and the authority to regulate abortion is returned to the
people and their elected representatives.”

https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/21pdf/19-1392_6j37.pdf

Neurotoxin says:

Can’t wait to see how the left reacts to this. This is a clear statement that the right is not always afraid to challenge the left’s most holy sacraments, and a refutation of the left’s precvious ratchet notion that History only moves leftward.

ExileStyle says:

A big refutation. Though no time to relax, as these sly jackals will do anything in their power to resume unfettered celebration of their central sacrament. The DOJ might simply go rogue now, as they have already suggested they will do with gun control.

Also important to note that this was a 6-3 decision in the end, so credit to Roberts for not being intimidated by the leak. I suspect he, the consummate “institutionalist,” concurred in the end in no small part as a sign that the court will not be so easily intimidated.

notglowing says:

Although I am certainly happy about this, as this has been propped up as a big holy cow for the left, I can’t help but consider it a small victory.

The fact it took so many decades to overturn it, which should’ve been much easier, speaks volumes of how irredeemable the American judiciary is.

This isn’t even banning abortion after all. It’s overturning a perverse interpretation of the constitution that somehow maintains that the document confers an absolute right to abortion. How obviously stupid is that? It’s a low hanging fruit. And it’s one of the less controversial things for right wingers to support.

Now abortion is still effectively legal, women just have to travel longer to have it done, considering many states will never ban it. Given they have 9 months this is more of a psychological victory for the right (and ought to be celebrated as such) than a real change in direction.

Leftists maintained some absolute right to abortion with no restriction for decades on this incredibly shaky foundation, because they knew legislative action to enshrine it into law would have meant compromising with republicans, and making abortion more restricted, much like it generally is in Europe.

Neurotoxin says:

“Although I am certainly happy about this, as this has been propped up as a big holy cow for the left, I can’t help but consider it a small victory.”

It’s a huge victory.

Destroys the left’s aura of invincibility.

Crashes through their cherished walls of delusion about how history is totally on their side, so they definitely can’t lose in the long run.

Role of morale is enormously important.

Shows the enemy can bleed, on the most public of all stages.

It doesn’t matter whether you think abortion is a big deal. The point is, the left DOES think that. It’s a huge deal to them, and everyone knows it. And they were not able to stop this from happening.

“Fear will keep the local systems in line,” says Tarkin, “fear of this battle station.” Then the rebels destroy it in front of the whole galaxy. This happened – let’s suppose for the sake of argument – while the Death Star was headed to destroy some target that had little military value. The value of that target is not the point. The point is that their invincible untouchable death machine just got ass-raped on the world stage.

Varna says:

> It’s a huge victory.

Destroys the left’s aura of invincibility.

Crashes through their cherished walls of delusion about how history is totally on their side, so they definitely can’t lose in the long run.

Role of morale is enormously important.

…This is to a large extent what happened to the Soviet camp. They stopped believing they are on the right side of history. Once you manage to get the opposition into at least starting to doubt, their energy begins to plummet.

Self-doubt can be a very healthy thing, not necessarily a paralyzing nightmare of indecision. Every honest man knows self-doubt and how to deal with it in a healthy manner. It’s high time for a large chunk of globohomo drones to at least be introduced to this concept.

ExileStyle says:

No, this matters a lot. As Thomas points out in his opinion, contraception, gay marriage, and sodomy laws were all decided with the exact same reasoning as Roe, and with Roe as precedent.

Also keep in mind that should Republicans retake congress, they could ban abortion nationally. Their hands are no longer tied. Whether they will do it is another question; the fact now is they can. And this is the only real issue Republicans are totally consistent and uncompromising on.

It also matters in terms of how the left responds. They will definitely try to simply ignore the Supreme Court from now on, paint it as illegitimate, attempt to pack it or just dispense with it entirely. Their success or failure and overall approach to that could determine the timing, intensity, and shape of Civil War II, and who ends up ruling this nation.

This is a big deal. Let’s not be too cynical. Let’s also not forget about the innocent human souls being saved from trash compactors and the human organ trade market, too. This is a win.

The Cominator says:

“Also keep in mind that should Republicans retake congress, they could ban abortion nationally.”

Republicans would need to clear up the vote fraud to have any hope of retaking the Senate, and if they cleared up the vote fraud they would have to ask themselves whether a national ban on abortion would be popular and it absolutely would not be and if you think it would be you’re nuts (except for late term abortions). Republican voters vote Republican because Democrats intrude in their lives more with stupid policies and are more likely to ruin the economy (I mean if they aren’t named Bush) not because they want them to intrude on them more in this one case.

I believe the ruling is that this is a state issue.

The problem with abortion is also woman’s right to choose… not that it exists. Abortion should be husband and father’s right to choose.

jim says:

> should Republicans retake congress, they could ban abortion nationally

No they cannot. The ruling is that it is an issue for the separate states. It is a state issue.

Jehu says:

They could withhold all highway funding and other sorts of funding from any state that didn’t put a 360 day waiting period on abortions. At least assuming that the Supremes aren’t willing to go there on the Commerce clause and States ‘not being raped, merely seduced’ decisions.

The Cominator says:

But assuming they could get honest elections why the fuck would they do that?

Jehu says:

Well, if hypothetically you could get a law like that, you’d give the Supreme court a golden excuse to undo pretty much all the FDR jurisprudence. They’d be boxed into either saying, NO, the Federal government can’t do stuff that they’re not allowed to do by forcing states at pain of losing all their federal funding or to accept the imposition.

Either way would be a big win. And you could make the imposition less extreme than the 360 day waiting period, which I chose for a deliberate reducto.

The Cominator says:

While it doesn’t matter much now because fake elections…

This issue is only a winner when it doesn’t mean anything… once it requires men to be more likely to be stuck paying child support its a big loser. Is the GOP stupid enough… maybe.

ExileStyle says:

Of course they can. This ruling does not effect that directly, but it enables it. Congress can legislate whatever it likes. If Congress can mandate seatbelts or outlaw marijuana or prohibit murder they can outlaw abortion. This is the next step.

jim says:

Congress does no end of illegal and unconstitutional things. A federal ban on abortion would, however be different, because in this case the constitution would be backed. It will be considered, in order to excite the base, and then go nowhere.

ExileStyle says:

I don’t disagree that they likely *would* not do it, but they absolutely *could* if they wanted to. This is Civics 101. The whole point of this ruling is pointing out that there is no constitutional right to abortion. So no constitutional violation would be committed in outlawing abortion.

The legislative branch is fully within its rights to legislate something like that, or really anything else. It’s not something you’d even see floated unless Rs had a 60+ super-majority in the senate, but all sorts of things are possible.

I mean, did we expect to see Roe staight-up overruled in our lifetimes? I certainly did not.

jim says:

> The whole point of this ruling is pointing out that there is no constitutional right to abortion.

nuts

Do your homework.

The question addressed in this case is whether the separate states have the right to legislate on abortion.

If the feds have authority to legislate, the democrats could just make it legal up to twelve months after conception. If the feds do not have authority to make it legal, they do not authority to make it illegal.

Roe vs Wade was a workaround for the problem the the feds did not have that the authority.

The Cominator says:

“I don’t disagree that they likely *would* not do it, but they absolutely *could* if they wanted to. This is Civics 101. The whole point of this ruling is pointing out that there is no constitutional right to abortion. So no constitutional violation would be committed in outlawing abortion.”

It would be if the federal government banned it.

ExileStyle says:

It would be if the federal government banned it.

No idea where you guys are getting this idea from. You just add it to the federal criminal code. Don’t even need to mention abortion. Just add a paragraph under homicide law. Like “§5. ‘Life’ for the purposes of this subchapter shall be defined as beginning at conception.” Then you just prosecute it as murder.

jim says:

The government can normally get away that sort of obviously illegal and unconstitutional stuff. Except, sometimes it cannot.

This is one of those cases where it is unlikely that it can.

The Cominator says:

“No idea where you guys are getting this idea from. You just add it to the federal criminal code. Don’t even need to mention abortion. Just add a paragraph under homicide law. Like “§5. ‘Life’ for the purposes of this subchapter shall be defined as beginning at conception.” Then you just prosecute it as murder.”

Oh you’re doing the personhood thing. Ambigious if the federal government has the right to define personhood, they won’t do this though.

Personhood referendums (and this was before they rigged the elections) consistently fail to pass even in deep deep red states. Repealing Roe v Wade and limiting abortions is somewhat popular. Outright papist style conception bans on abortions are not popular.

Problem with abortion is that its up to the women and not up to the man who owns her (or should own her).

ExileStyle says:

>Do your homework.
>obviously illegal and unconstitutional

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I’m not going to harp on this any more after this, but you are wrong, and plainly and on the face of it wrong. There simply is no argument here. I can’t help wilful ignorance of basic lawmaking, but maybe some current or future pro-life lawmaker is reading this.

Compare pp. 2-3 of Kavanaugh’s opinion (pp. 125-124 of linked document):

On the question of abortion, the Constitution is therefore neither pro-life nor pro-choice. The Constitution is neutral and leaves the issue for the people and their elected representatives to resolve through the democratic process in the States or Congress—like the numerous other difficult questions of American social and economic policy that the Constitution does not address.

In fact, unborn children are already protected under federal law (https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1841) and people can be and often are prosecuted for murdering unborn children—just not abortionists or mothers. You just start prosecuting the abortionists and mothers, too.

Also, whether it is possible and whether it is probable are two completely different questions. I’m not sure how to explain that basic feature of reality, nor how to “convince” you of something that is simply a basic matter of fact.

jim says:

Your points are simply irrelevant, because they are all irrelevant the issue that caused Roe in the first place: That regulating abortion is a state power, not a federal power, and the feds did not like the way some states regulated it.

It was made a constitutional right to get around the state rights question. Making it not a constitutional right returns us to the status quo ante.

Which was, and now is again, that it is a state matter.

The Cominator says:

1st of all is the question is whether the Republicans will ever be able to win the Senate or Presidency again. I’m skeptical i think they can get the house…

But if future Senatorial and Presidential elections are fair federal personhood laws will be political suicide.

jim says:

The radical faction (the squad) thinks that the Republicans cannot be allowed to win anything.

But, contrary to my confident prediction, the faction actually in power is not signing on to this. It is not exactly signing off from this, but is signaling an intent to let cuckservatives win the house, but not the senate or the presidency, and to not allow any more Maga candidates to win pre-selection in the Republican party. Since Trump is a Maga candidate, this program, if carried out in full, will produce a hilarious presidential primary in 2024.

Nor is it entirely committed to allowing cuckservatives to win the house. It is dithering.

The problem, which it does not quite know how to deal with, is that any election that does not result in the Republicans in full control is likely to be a bit far fetched. The gerontocrats and kleptocrats want normality, and do not know how to get there. The radicals want the immanentize the eschaton, and think they can get there by eliminating whites. Those in control are weak and confused, because they know that they do not know, while the radicals are full of strength, certainty, and passion, because they think they do know. It is therefore likely, that as the 2022 election approaches, the gerontocrats and keptocrats will give the order “steal in moderation, a narrow cuckservative victory in the house, all maga candidates to lose, and a close senate”, and to their surprise what will actually be done will be considerably more radical.

exilestyle says:

>Your points are simply irrelevant

The only issue the right has had any organizational coherence on and success with across decades is abortion. The bills are already introduced and simply waiting for the votes:

Total abortion ban bill with 160 cosponsors already: https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/1011/text?q=%7B%22search%22%3A%5B%22d%22%5D%7D&r=9&s=1

Heartbeat bill: https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/705/text

Your normalcy bias is showing. It’s also clear you haven’t spent much time among real-live American evangelical conservatives, i.e. Republicans, because they are absolutely ride or die on this issue, and enforce near-absolute ideological conformity among elected Republicans.

jim says:

This is just cuckservatives throwing red meat at their base. They have no intention that it would ever pass, and if it did pass, which it cannot, would be instantly shot down in the courts.

exilestyle says:

>instantly shot down in the courts

On what basis?

jim says:

State rights. That it is a state power was what resulted in Roe versus Wade in the first place.

One obvious workaround would be the commerce clause, but that requires the court system to be in your pocket.

The Cominator says:

A better use of a non leftist SCOTUS is to nuke the commerce clause from orbit not to use the commerce clause in a way that even given fair elections will ensure the Democrats stay in power.

exilestyle says:

>But if future Senatorial and Presidential elections are fair federal personhood laws will be political suicide.

Yeah, that’s true. In today’s political climate at least. If there’s ambivalence and hesitancy even here, on the farthest reaches of the right wing, it’s probably best for Republicans to leave it alone.

That would not have been true half a century ago, though. It’s important to keep the big picture in mind.

chris says:

Hoes be mad.

Globalist Power Terminated II says:

Indeed, leftsists are malding P-PRAISE GNON!

notglowing says:

Derangement and delusion are pretty high for what is not even a big loss, pretty typical of the histrionic leftist:
https://i.imgur.com/hTlIIQn.png

Travis says:

Interesting article….posits namefag Yarvin as “cathedral idea is nonsense.”

https://counter-currents.com/2022/06/why-the-concept-of-the-cathedral-is-nonsense/

The Cominator says:

1. Before the 2016 election the evidence of the center was weak, since 2020 the existence of a conspiracy of the Alex Jones type is obvious. You still don’t know exactly what the center is… but you know its there.

2. The way this article characterizes the center is incorrect

“It is “decentralized” in the sense that there’s no single center directing action, but rather multiple competing groups jockeying for power and influence while the controlling center provides the marketplace”

No no 2020 proved it really was some small SPECTRE like cabal at the top. Though I expect the WEF is just a frontgroup for it (that Klaus Schwab looks a lot like Blofeld/Dr Evil is not a coincidence).

“These misconceptions all stem from a very wrongheaded idea about markets and commerce — that somehow they arise “spontaneously” and are not top-down. In reality, there is no such thing as a non-palace economy, as all commercial or productive activities depend on the framework and infrastructure which can only be provided by the sovereign”

Trade does not depend on the government really… only scaling trade and property beyond what you can defend yourself does.

3. This is another one of the stupid “blame the merchants” articles.

“Far more than the simple peasant, the high financier and wealthy merchant depend on the king’s whims, his money, his standards, his soldiers and policemen, his courts, his roads, his economic power as a guarantor of their solvency, and his diplomatic clout insofar as they trade abroad. For the most part, they don’t mind this”

Now this is true but he makes it out like the merchants control this… and merchants don’t mind this too much when the king just wants them to kickup a small %. When the kingpriest wants the merchant to cut his balls off though they do mind.

Vlad says:

Dont see them minding see them offering to pay for ball cutting and abortion vacations. See them firing whites and hiring muds see them selling poison a whole multitude of poisons. Seems when you’re in deep with deep things go we’ll laws get passed that keep completion developing and you get trainloads of freshly printed fiat and don’t pay taxes. They may not be shot callers like the Jews but they are enforcers for the Jew. Never cared for AJ but he seems to have been pretty much right about everything. Trade even actual capitalism is not corporatism even corporatism would be ok if Jews didn’t want us dead and enslaved.
If you examine what is seemingly insane about our leaders choices it only isn’t insane if you hate and fear white people but are not strong enough to defeat them head on so need muds to back you up. Because if that wasn’t the crux of the matter all the other stuff could be had by simply letting the muds die off instead they breed and import them knowing full well they’re useless mouths. The merchants betray us because they understand the plan is to take the whites property and launder it through the muds who will give it to the so called capitalists so more iPhones are moved capitalist are never long term thinkers. The Jews certainly are.

The Cominator says:

I don’t think they’ve yet been asked to pay for tranny surgeries doesn’t seem to be a holiness trend to get private entities to pay for those yet, some are as of now offering to pay for abortion costs. The capitalists are strongarmed by globohomo because they are an easy pressure point and through letting priests into their companies they can be used to control the population. But by and large their main interest is money… and they mainly obey out of fear.

Yes globohomo may offer carrots (rarely) but mostly the merchants get the stick not the carrot.

alf says:

The name ‘Nicholas Jeelvy’ does ring a bell… Wasn’t he a commenter back in the day? I remember not being very impressed back then. Of this article, I can barely read two paragraphs before being bored to death.

Aidan says:

We used to be friends on Twitter back in the day; cool guy but not exactly one of us.

Starman says:

@Travis

Counter-Currents is run by Grindr Greg Johnson, a faggot that promoted the Covid hoax and the frankenvaxx.

Travis says:

Yes. Just posting the link as it is relevant.

It is also bullshit…..as is Johnson.

jim says:

Counter currents is controlled opposition. I have always found watching their stuff a complete waste of time, and mentally exhausting because of the effort required to detect the payload of implicit lies being carried in statements that explicitly dance around the truth, while implicitly carrying a payload of lies.

Vlad says:

Now apply same standard to Curtis

jim says:

I do

I call him Namefag Yarvin.

Since he was doxxed, worthless. If I was doxxed in this identity, this identity might also become worthless, but unlike Namefag Yarvin I have some spare identities up my sleeve. He deliberate constructed Urbit to not particularly facilitate spare identities. Urbit is way more developed than what I am working on, but I am not making his mistakes. Also, this identity is armored so that it can survive doxxing a whole lot better than Namefag Yarvin’s identity. But it is not so well armored as Andrew Anglin’s identity, so hard to say what would happen.

They went after Andrew Anglin’s family. They have attempted to dox my kin, so far unsuccessfully, but they successfully doxxed Andrew Anglin’s kin. Because they suspect this identity to be well armored to survive doxxing, they seem to be particularly interested in finding my kin.

hggh says:

> Since he was doxxed, worthless.

You are retarded. Current Yarvin is exactly the same as Moldbug. He seems different to you because you are getting senile.

jim says:

If you think he is unchanged, you failed to find the deeper meanings in the Moldbug posts, which were always a little bit camouflaged by a thicket of word salad, or are vastly better than I am at finding the hidden meanings in the Namefag Yarvin posts, which are solidly buried underneath concrete reinforced by of globohomo lies, and require vast amounts of thought, effort, cynicism, energy, sensitivity to implications, and deep knowledge of reactionary theory to hammer through that solid layer of reinforced concrete.

Anonomus says:

“Current Yarvin is exactly the same as Moldbug”
You are wrong
Current Yarvin is almost worthless and getting completely worthless.
I also disagree with jim that all of it is about doxxing
Yarvin is simply getting old, his ideas has reached it fullness and there is nothing more.
Even he admit it is now time for grifting. Which is okay but also sad.
His writing today are meandering , irritating and tedious.
Moldbug yarvin writing was kaleidoscopic if you keep at it you will
Reach a spot where everything fall into place.
Yarvin writing now like a desert his ideas are mirage the more you follow him the less you understand.

Kunning Drueger says:

https://youtu.be/S6TLn50Jm9g

Col. Macgregor laying it down. Definitely worth a watch.

Gentlemen, friends & adversaries, and the mentally retarded:

I propose we start a think tank centered on IEW called Headless Process. We compose essays and send them to people like Macgregor. We use Jim’s software for internal comms and coordination. Nothing IRL, no meatspace offices, just anonymous collaboration online resulting in concise, sober analysis and theory.

Jim says his stuff isn’t ready, but some things will never be ready because they’ll never be perfect. Deploying systems on a small scale with no fanfare is the best way to work out bugs and develop optimization.

Papers and essays need to be drafted, then edited. I will do the editing and if I need help, I’ll ask. I will also track down contact info for Recipients, and do delivery if it is absolutely necessary.

We need to develop a list of Targets composed of people or organizations that we send the completed policy and theory papers to.

We need to develop a list of topics, broken into Essential, Supporting, and Interesting.

We need to demonstrate the value and nascent power of our synthetic tribe in order to find and connect with the Elites capable of forming the new regime. I see no benefit to sitting around, waiting for salvation, hoping against hope someone else will bring about Restoration. I know this is a dangerous path to walk, which is precisely why we can be certain it’s worthy of our efforts.

Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

I’ve noticed The Algorithm has been putting clips from ‘A Few Good Men’ in youtube feeds lately; i suppose the google botnet decided based on Reasons that this thing and this time have an intersection.

The opening scene of a troop of marines engaging in silent drill really sets the tone for the whole movie: “you see this poignant expression of europoid man’s ability to coordinate and engage in higher forms of behavior? yeah, it means worse than nothing to me; this is what i am looking to destroy, and i’ll make you cheer me on as i do it”.

Adam says:

Something that has become very apparent to me is how much warriors and priests are natural adversaries.

Priests like women are naturally subversive, and both envy and covet what the warrior has, competence in the material world.

Priests need to be restrained and restricted with the same diligence women do. They need to be locked down tight, no wiggle room. A little wiggle room today, a lot tomorrow.

Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

Sure, you can make that point in the course of the discussion, no?

Pseudo-Chrysostom says:
C4ssidy says:

I often think of his proposed system totally changing information as we know it. With normie internet, articles can be edited in hindsight, and the troons are even cracking down on archive.org. A blockchain article would presumably be checksummed and signed by keys of authors and editors (verified via trust network ie other people carrying proof of other stuff they signed) all messagable for a small fee and having to re-sign for updates. It feels like ultimate triumph over 1984. Why would you use or trust something from any other system? I wonder if you could even reward people for correct predictions in hindsight. Suppose those computer models vastly overpredicting earth warming in the 80s had set up a smart contract bet with the temperature satellites and attached proof at the end of their paper. Even without bets there would be a similar weight when correctly analysing world events just based on the immutability of posts. If the New York Times posts something a total contradiction with what they said one year ago, they always change the previous article

Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LpxT9TLGoLI

The crackup between the whig priesthood and the veneer of instrumental techne they wore as a party costume – as expressed through the medium of a fronthole who went looking for warlords and sadly never found herself getting kidnapped.

Kunning Drueger says:

Pseudo, how does it feel to be a national treasure no one knows about?

Pseudo-Chrysostom says:
alf says:
Globalist Power Terminated II says:

https://twitter.com/TheOnion/status/1540416006882983936

Supreme Court Votes 5-4 To Reclassify Women As Service Animals

BASED!

Severian says:

Interesting, the EU is not going along with this Kaliningrad stuff. They are drafting a document to “allow Russian good to pass through Lithuania”.

So I suppose this whole thing was a state department idea like Yarvin said on his blog.

Kunning Druegger says:

Every single escalatory step recommended, urged, or taken has been a product of the suicidal war faction; Polish migs, no fly zone, foreign mercs, weaponization of Chernobyl, offensive naval escorts, blockade of Kaliningrad.

The suicidal war faction is strongest in the Core GAE, but merely factionally represented in the periphery. It is not the strongest faction either, which is why there is succesful opposition to it.

Both Mearsheimer and MacGregor have called out what’s happening, but either crimestop or normality bias precluded them from putting together Cause and Effect: if Russia begins to decisively lose in Ukraine, they will likely resort to nuclear weapons; the US has made it explicitly known that their main goal is for Russia to lose decisively.

The suicidal war faction of the State Department wants Russia to use nuclear weaponry because they believe it will give them carte blanche to force their disease laden soft power cock into Russian society on the heels of a hard power incursion. They need the justification to act with a free hand, and they believe the deployment of nuclear weapons is the perfect casus belli.

The Cominator says:

No actually the suicidal war faction is the strongest in the Baltic States and Poland… which makes me think they should not be allowed to exist…

Kunning Druegger says:

Disagree. yes, they are there. yes, they are influential. But if they were in power, there would be volunteer companies of infantry flowing into the Ukraine and fighting, as well as regular army equipment being sent at or near battalion strength to be matched up with operators in country. This is a precedent dating back many centuries in Europe. Thus far, I don’t believe we’ve seen this occurring. It may happen soon, and I could be wrong, but if it were happening, Russia would be countering. There are large Russian speaking enclaves in all of the Balts. Should they, or Moldova or Romania, start sending volunteer companies or regiments, we’d be seeing 5th column actions by Spetznas.

notglowing says:

The most suicidal are the people living in these ex USSR eastern europe states that hate Russia, often for good reason, due to their past.
This is true, but they are not the people with the most power.
They don’t get their way, they indirectly depend on Washington because they know they can’t actually fight Russia by themselves.
It’s more akin to impotent rage than anything. But to the extent that they are able to do something against Russia, they will.

The ones you need to be worried about are the suicidal war faction in the US.
Because they can actually organize a suicidal war against Russia.

The Cominator says:

The insane state department faction keeps using these countries to try to provoke a war. The kalingrad blockade is the latest… i can’t merely blame the local elite either the way most modern evils are… those countries top to bottom want America to fight their war for them…

Vendat Tunicam says:

Have you ever seen what happens to a small yappy dog when the owner is suddenly out of sight?

The people in ex-USSR countries are in a suicidal rage because they think the US will do the heavy fighting for them. If *poof* bang! the US ceases protect them they will be meek and servile in Russia’s hands. On combined military power alone they cannot take the Russians, when you add in nukes it’s totally over. A Yorkie fighting a Mastiff.

yewotm8 says:

Because of all of the retarded posts on /pol/ by Polish flags? Not something I’d base my appraisal of a nation’s sentiment on in real life.

The Cominator says:

Its like every pole and balkanoid there is no opposition saying they are all glowniggers (there seems to be one polish poster who says they’re all Ukranians)..

So yes I figure their population even their far right supports this.

Mister Grumpus says:

Yarvin is right.

The way the US Embassy in any of these little countries will push around the “actual government”, often in direct opposition to what the people want, will blow your fucking mind once you see it in action. That’s all I’m saying here.

Or rather, instead of “the US Embassy”, I should say “the many Cathedral tentacles that use the US Embassy as their Green Zone”.

“The Alawites also had immense success, with an outer religion of Mohammedanism…”

There is no such thing as “Mohammedanism”.

It is Islam.

jim says:

The word Mohammedanism is symmetric with the word Christianity. You follow Mohammed, we follow Christ. The word “Islam” presupposes that Mohammedanism is true, and Christianity false.

The Alawite tactic of having an outer religion that is superficially compliant, an inner religion that is considerably less compliant, and an innermost religion that is deeply secret, is one that in a long dark age we may well have to adopt. Their inner religion has bronze age roots, which makes it likely that their secret innermost religion maintains Bronze age social technology. If we have to form a priesthood on the same principles, our innermost secret religion will have as its sexual morality the sexual morality of the old testament, our outer religion will be cucked post Christianity, our inner religion Christianity, and our secret innermost religion old type Christianity with continuity with the Bronze Age social technology preserved by Moses and the priesthood of Aaron. As commanded by Saint Paul, our priesthood will be recruited from married men who have raised well behaved children. But this presupposes that our civilization collapses and our race vanishes, which I would rather avoid.

Anoncity says:

This design of Social/Religious Concentric circles is quite amazing to actually exist and maintained for centuries.
I wonder how it work in practice, Is it like masonic lodges ? With hierarchical degree
And how they deal with the problem of entrist and the cover story replace the secret story for the generations that come after.

Jehu says:

I suspect that close ties of blood help reduce the entryism problem. Unfortunately, that’s not something that you can easily replicate.

jim says:

Entryism was a problem from the beginning, and became a hugely bigger problem when Christianity took power. State propagation of power into enemy state through the state faith was huge problem in first temple Israel. State sponsored entryism became a big thing shortly before World War II. Nonkin groups have been dealing with entryism for a very long time. There are well known and highly effective methods whereby synthetic tribes can deal with it.

With Information Epoch Warfare beginning, it is about to become an even bigger problem.

Shill tests work. They work bizarrely, improbably, and unreasonably well.

Neurotoxin says:

“Shill tests work. They work bizarrely, improbably, and unreasonably well.”

But holy crap, the amount of time you have to spend administering them.

(And updating them, etc.)

suones says:

[*deleted for misinformation*]

jim says:

I don’t know, and you do not know, what the innermost faith of the Alawites is, and anyone who does know is not saying. But the inner faith of the Alawites, which is somewhat known, is not the one you depict.

Muhammad Izadi says:

Thanks for replying.

“You follow Mohammed, we follow Christ.”

The term “Mohammedanism” presumes that Muslims worship Prophet Muhammad (Peace be Upon Him) or associate divine attributes with him.

He is the final messenger of Allah. Like other prophets of Allah, he is infallible.
However, he is not a deity.

The word “Islam” does not point to any personality, tribe, or geographical spot. It means submission to Absolute Reality (Al Haqq).

The one who submits is called a “Muslim”.

jim says:

Which presupposes that you are submitting to God, we are not (and that therefore war should ensue within “months”, “months” being plausibly and reasonably interpreted in context as meaning as soon as it looks like there is a chance of it being safe to do so. And Christian mercy and forgiveness following victory is always interpreted as weakness presaging a chance.)

Calling it Mohammedanism does not imply you worship Mohammed. It merely implies you follow Mohammed, who was inspired by demon, real or metaphorical.

We know it was a demon, whether a real spirit speaking from without, or Mohammed’s own evil speaking from within which he conveniently heard as voice without, because it lied and was inconstant, with new revelations superseding old revelations when the old revelations became inconvenient.

We and old type Mohammedans, such as Talibanic Muslims, are temporarily allies, and I don’t wish to have a quarrel when we both face an extremely powerful enemy faith that intends to rule the world, and has very nearly accomplished it. But Mohammedan alliances are always temporary. During the Lebanon civil war each of a dozen factions was at some point at war with each of the others.

We and new type Mohammedans, who have made a modus vivendi with globo homo, are enemies right now.

Which kind of Mohammedan are you? If you are reading this blog, very possibly old type, in which case we should postpone our quarrel till globohomo is defeated. Or, possibly, you are a shill. I have seen some shills, not very many, shilling for new type Mohammedanism. I am not sure whether they are paid by a new type Mohammedanism government, or paid by globohomo to converge Mohammedanism. If a shill, let us have this quarrel right now. Demanding that people use enemy words is a globohomo tactic, suggestive of a globohomo shill.

If someone is a Christian, “Islam” is an enemy word, while “Mohammedan” an entirely polite alternative that does not carry any hostile implications. “Islam” carries implications deeply hostile, murderously hostile, to Christians, Christianity, and Christ, and no Christian should use that word.

If you are an old type Mohammedan, you should be perfectly comfortable with non Mohammedan temporary allies using their preferred word, at least if they clarify the meaning so that there is no hostile intent. If a globohomo shill, you will demand that your enemies use your language, to carry your meanings and your intent into enemy minds.

jim says:

Putting you on moderation pending your response to this shill test. Failures to pass the shill test are likely to be silently deleted.

If you are old type Mohammedan, you will be able to depict Globohomo as a religion, as post Christian or demon worship, derived from Christianity, but no longer Christian.

Do so to pass the shill test.

If a globohomo shill for new type Mohammedanism, you will not be able to do so. You will be only able to criticize globohomo with language that maintains careful ambiguity as to whether you are attacking those horrid racist redneck bearded Christians in the swamps, or the frighteningly powerful people in tall towers in Washington, New York, and Massachusetts.

If you are a shill employed by a new type Islamic government rather than globohomo, I am not sure what you will be able to do, but will be very curious to find out.

[*deleted*]

jim says:

Please take the shill test above.

I want to know if you actually believe what you are supposedly arguing for, or if what you supposedly believe and supposedly argue for is just a wagon to carry a very different payload.

Your lengthy and courteous reply somehow failed to mention in any way the common enemy of Christians and Mohammedans, an enemy that rules most of the world, and intends to rule all of it.

I don’t care whether or not you are hostile to Christianity – though I smell something fish when you say you are not. I care whether you are what you say you are or are in bed with the common enemy of Christians and Mohammedans, and you explaining at length in a courteous and friendly fashion that you are not hostile Christians makes me more suspicious, not less that, that you are in fact hostile not only to Christians, but also to Mohammedans. I did not want to see discussion of Mary, mother of Christ. I wanted to see something, that if you have paymasters in the towers of New York, or Washington, and Massachusetts, would get you fired.

Pax Imperialis says:

Imagine being a “failed artist” in early 1900s because your art is too close to reality.

Imagine being a “failed academic” in current day because your work is too close to reality.

Is reaction from “failed academics?”

markmark says:

there are a number of us in the ranks. also generally, white men excluded from other institutions besides academia (corporations, government etc).

suones says:

> Failed artist from early 1900s…

💕

hggh says:

> Imagine being a “failed artist” in early 1900s because your art is too close to reality.

Hitler’s art is shit dude.

jim says:

He knew it was shit, but it was still vastly better than Picasso and all that crowd.

Severian says:

Heh, Picasso painted better realism at 9 years old than Hitler ever did. completely different class in terms of talent, had he not gotten into modernism in his teens he might have been one of the greatest figurative painters ever, up there with the old masters.

jim says:

Link me to a realist painting by Picasso.

Cloudswrest says:

Here you go. He did a lot of “normal” paintings before he went “cubist”. Also, he wasn’t famous until he went cubist.

https://mymodernmet.com/picasso-early-work/

Severian says:

Cloudswrest posted most of them.
He painted Old Fisherman and Communion as a young teen.
They are nothing special by 19th century standards, but very impressive for his age. Even in the blue period before cubism you can still see his great talent.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Eaj9uBhWsAIPzer.jpg
http://howartworks.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/Picasso-1st-Communion-with-Shadow.jpg

The Cominator says:

Hitler’s art as far as buildings wasn’t bad but its people who haven’t studied him much think he wanted to be an artist.

Hitler really wanted to be an ARCHITECT and if you’ve ever dealt with architects and know what they are like… Hitler would fit right in btw. They are 90% control freak prima donnas and the only way to dissuade them from stupid ideas is to fanatically insist what they do just absolutely can’t work because of obscure technical reasons he doesn’t understand (which is what people who dealt with Hitler generally said was generally the only way to back him down on things)…

Hitler spent most of his time pre war going over architectual models with Speer all other tasks involved in running the Reich was secondary to architectural planning, during the war he couldn’t do this nearly as much but he still spent a fair amount of time with architectural plans.

skippy says:

Hitler’s art was not imaginative, which is interesting because

1. his politics was very imaginative

2. I’ve never found any writing or other statement by him condemning artistic innovation or arguing that art must be “realistic”

If art doesn’t have any aspect of feeling or the divine then it is prose, not art, and Hitler’s better paintings do have some aspect of feeling and the divine.

Hitler does point out that Jews and leftists were deliberately marketing ugly and morally corroding art as genius to make money and mock German culture, which was true, but doesn’t explain why Hitler’s art wasn’t more interesting.

Hitler just was not a great artist, and not because of persecution. I think he realized he was not a great artist which is why he ended up sleeping in until 11am every day and painting for pocket money. When he realized he was a great politician, he put his life into it.

(re: architecture, Germania isn’t interesting either)

Pax Imperialis says:

All great art is a reflection of reality through a mirror of the fantastical and divine. Greek statutes are beloved for their immortal capture of the human ideal to the extent that it was more human than human. Much in the same way Schwarzenegger’s transcendence of the human ideal body was to the extend he was more than just human.

Thousands of years have past and we still recognize the magnificence of Greco Roman art.

The end result of modern art is literal shit* or piss**. It goes in the opposite direction of transcendental realist beauty. It’s more disgusting, profane, and obscene than reality.
*https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artist%27s_Shit
**https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piss_Christ

Hitler’s art captured the Germanic spirit with absolute technical competency to the extent that it was German than German.

Aidan says:

More human than human? I have ancestors in ancient Argos, and in my best shape I looked uncannily like the Riace bronzes. Just looking at them is a spiritual experience. Quibbling on the art historian side, the Greek art was better described as perfect realism; there was nothing transcendental about them. It was the Renaissance artists that introduced the transcendental, and the Greeks rather than the Germans that had an autistic obsession with perfect recreation

Pax Imperialis says:

By surpassing the common human experience by pursuit of the human ideal to the extreme one becomes more human than human. It becomes transcendental while remaining human.

Greek art is a pursuit of the Pagan Greek human ideal to the extreme. It’s not perfect realism. Big chests (Big Manly Thumos), reasonably toned abs (A tamed Eros), and well shaped heads (A mastered and well crafted logos). There’s a philosophical message in the art that by mastering all three one becomes something more. That is a pagan transcendentalism.

The Renaissance artists introduced Christian transcendentalism and divinity to the Greco Roman art style.

The Germans are… well they are Germans. Their humor is… fairly German. They can’t cross a street unless the signal light says so… even if there is absolutely no traffic. Hitler’s art captures that spirit to the extreme. Unfortunately for Hitler’s art career, few have Germanic sensibilities which means the art largely falls flat much in the way German humor is not exactly popular.

Pax Imperialis says:

This is just bizarre and embarrassing. Who thought it would be a good idea to allow him to bike in public.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-EahgmNmMsM

A2 says:

Ir would have been perfect if. while he lay stunned on the ground, Obama had pulled up behind him and held a speech on abortion. Maybe next time.

Mister Grumpus says:

Is it just me, or are you guys seeing more normiecons describing leftism/wokeness as a religion, rather than the old stuff like “greed” or “incorrectness”, etc?

Abortion as a “sacrament”. I’ve been seeing a lot of that. Maybe that was the trigger. Probably.

It’s war relevant, I think, seeing yourself in a “religious conflict” now rather than a “debate”. Finally.

(As if to wind back the clock, we have Jimmy Dore on Tucker Carlson now, complaining about the “billionaire oligarchs” that control both parties, etc. Sure man, that explains the abortion jihadis and fag stuff.)

jim says:

I first mentioned abortion as a sacrament in 2012, nine years and nine months ago, but I have been banging on that drum pretty regularly starting in 2019. So it is possible it is an indication that this blog has considerable impact.

The reason I started banging on that drum is not sluts, but trannies. Watching a trannie speak on an entirely neutral topic in software engineering I got the compelling feeling that I was watching an animated corpse, whose soul had been devoured or dragged to hell quite a long time ago, and the empty corpse was now being operated, not very well, by a demon in hell speaking through a microphone and dragging a mouse over a keypad. (The demon, if demon it was, was an adequate software engineer)

I have always considered enemy faith demon infested, whether the demons are real or metaphorical. A meme system that spreads at the expense of its adherents can be usefully modeled as demon. But it has tended in recent years to look and feel rather literal. Possibly that is merely psychological convergence.

S.J., Esquire says:

“possible it is an indication that this blog has considerable impact.”

Heh. Not to detract from your fine publication, Jim (which I hope has a wide impact!) but I think it’s a not-difficult observation to make.

In a similar way I’ve been saying for years, and it gets ever-more obvious, that the rainbow-pride stuff is no longer about homosexuality for most people, it’s essentially a religious holiday of the secular religion. For most normies hanging rainbow flags, it’s more like putting up candy cane decorations at Christmas or whatever.

Anyway I agree with the OP, I like to see that things are getting more out in the open, and in particular because “my body my choice” no longer works in the wake of vaxx mandates, it’s getting more obvious that this is a religious conflict. I feel way more energized than I did, say, 8 years ago.

The Cominator says:

If you believe that our enemies at the highest level worship the Adversary at least symbolically “pride” is perhaps the best evidence.

In the bible god is most offended by idolatry homosexuality and child sacrifice as active sins and pride as a foundational sin. Having pride in an idolatrous celebration of homosexuality where many participants secretly practice child rape and some sacrifice has to be the biggest middle finger to the biblical god imaginable.

Wulfgar Thundercock III says:

It is a hard leap from leftism as bad ideas to leftism as evil, demonic religion. Jim and Moldbug made that point and it was one of the most keen insights. Like 3-axis control for flight, it is obvious in retrospect, but only once you have it explained to you. Prior to the first discovery, it is pretty damned hard to figure out.

tollman says:

But abortion is disproportionately used by inner city blacks (with a strong statistical tendency to grow up criminal), and advocated / defended by progressive whites. Has been since Margaret Sanger. Which makes it into a subtle and deniable race war.

Which is why I don’t object to abortion being legal.

I have never observed abortion being deployed against a child conceived by quality people.

Some population projections I’ve seen claim that in the absence of Roe, North America would’ve turned majority black by now. Preventing that nightmare is worth a notable amount of blood.

jim says:

> I have never observed abortion being deployed against a child conceived by quality people.

What I observe differs.

There are two important and terrifyingly common cases.

The wife aborts a wanted child of her husband over her husband’s wishes, because muh career.

The chick gets banged by a good man, because she gets tired of waiting for Jeremy Meeks next boot call, aborts the child of the good man, who would like to keep her around to raise his child, in case Jeremy Meeks sends her a second booty call.

The Cominator says:

“The wife aborts a wanted child of her husband over her husband’s wishes, because muh career.”

How common is this… its certainly not something these married career girls would often talk about so finding out how common it is… difficult.

Kunning Druegger says:

In my experience, the only time women are comfortable discussing abortion is in the abstract. I’d pay good money to some rightwing activist to go to pro-babymurder rallies and ask every woman he met to share their kill count. I predict the blacks would score (3x), the whites would score x, the latinas and asians would be (x-1). But the vast majority of those questioned would refuse to answer, as always falling back on the femininity privilege they love to use and pretend doesn’t exist.

The Cominator says:

Yes I’ve met about two women in my life willing to discuss even in passing that they did it (and they weren’t all that happy)… i don’t necessarily think sheboons would be all that eager to talk about it either.

Kunning Drueger says:

This is an enemy meme. If you took abortion away from the negros, they don’t suddenly become more long lived, more capable of cooperation, and higher G. Population pressure is GNONs most effective tool for driving neutral progress and social construct evolution. Sacrificing children for supposed convenience is human sacrifice. Period. Any discussion further is stupid and pointless.

Abortion, birth control, puberty blockers, chemical castration, double mastectomy; all of these are sacraments to Slaneesh. GNON compels humanity, and its cousins, and all life, to be fruitful and multiply.

Oog en Hand says:

Castration seems to me Tzeentch defeating Slaanesh.

S says:

It isn’t. Slannesh is depravity; the association with sex was a temporary measure. See Playboy- the non reproductive sex gave way to trannies.

Slannesh is about taking what is normal and good and perverting it, normalizing the perversion and attacking those who are the ‘old’ normal. So cutting off your balls and pushing for others to cut off their is Slannesh.

A2 says:

I consider demonic possession a key concept these days. Once you see it, it cannot be unseen.

Screwtape would think the game is far too easy these days. No need for subtle corruption anymore, just shovel in more demons. Well, there’s possibly some lighter work remaining with converting girls to trannies using malicious internet groups, demonic tranny story hour, pederasty acceptance, etc.

The simpering librarians and government workers will too stand next to the Episcopalian bishop of Maine.

A2 says:

Your fathers’ guilt you still must pay,
Till, Roman, you restore each shrine,
Each temple, ‘mouldering in decay,
And smoke-grimed statue, scarce divine.

suones says:

A refreshing interlude. This really resonated with me on a spiritual level. Thank you.

The Cominator says:

Well from a certain POV it looks like billionaires run the Democratic party.

The problem is they are hedge fund guys who make money on inside information given to them by the state department and possibly intelligence agencies like Sussman, Soros and Tom Steyer (Soros and Sussman are jews, Steyer is a mischlinge). Sussman and Soros both primarily makes bets on instability in other countries with other peoples money… sounds like Steyer does too but its less clear (distrissed assets). As far as being a true believer Steyer seems worse than the other two given that he apparently never shutsup about green energy whereas Sussman keeps a low profile and Soros speaks in vague generalities on most things and his specific economic theory that he did write a book about is his economic theory that mass investor psychology can at least in the short term drive changes in fundamentals is probably correct (theory of reflexivity)…

So the billionaire oligarchs really do the run the Democrats and the state theory would seem to fit if they were all true believing fanatics like Steyer… but homosexuals being sacred to some ancient Hungarian Jew (who may be many evil things but isn’t a faggot) like Soros doesn’t make much sense. Soros clearly looks like an intelligent bagman for that and other reasons Jim has gone over… Sussman likewise as I’ve never heard of him speaking much in public at all (and true believers generally can’t resist opprotunities to run their mouth). Steyer looks very much like a true believer but he wanted the nomination and didn’t come close.

So it looks like these guys have a symbiotic relationship with the Democratic party and the US government where they make lots of money but they have to give back and they don’t really get to run the Democratic party.

Mister Grumpus says:

It’s one of those Jim truths (whoever wrote it) that you can never un-read:

If you think the billionaires handing out money are powerful, what about the weirdos, who have never earned a buck for anyone ever, who just reach out their hands and take it?

Can George Soros destroy Kamala Harris, or can Kamala Harris destroy George Soros?

Can Bill Gates ruin the WHO Tedros guy, or can the WHO Tedros guy ruin Bill Gates?

Who can say “nigger” on camera, Jeff Bezos or Ibrahim Kendi?

Pax Imperialis says:

I get the point you’re making, but the Soros/Harris examples doesn’t work well. Soros is more “holy” than Harris, and would win in a holiness spiral. There is far more main stream and left wing criticism of Harris than there will ever be of Soros.

What we are seeing with many billionaires is their affirmation and pursuit of holiness. Should they become recognizable as ordained priests of the left, something Gates is well on his way of doing, they will have all the advantages of those weirdos who never earned a buck will with the full command of entire industries at their command.

Who would be more powerful, a Kendi or a billionaire Kendi? What if Soros, Gates, or Bezos could muscle into the priesthood?

Basil says:

In Arizona, families will be given money to educate their children in private schools or at home, instead of funding only public schools with blacks and communists.

Thus, the customer of education will be parents and their children, who will be able to choose any school they like and even switch to home schooling. which will reduce the influence of state prikahs from above. Now schools will have to adapt educational standards to students, not students to standards.

I wholeheartedly approve of this decision.

Kunning Drueger says:

So who gets to define what is adharmic?

Moving to more comfortable territory, are you suggesting that me, a white man, feeling sympathy for, and a profound sense of heartbroken rage with, Slavic men on the wrong side of a stupid, avoidable war, is sympathy for the devil?

I watched an Indian movie about Kargil not long ago. I actually kind of reviewed it with questions for the Dharmabros here, but it ended up feeling a bit dumb, so I didn’t post it. To me, that conflict seems like the silliest little nothing. One pack of browns playing at soldiers with equipment gifted to them by the Whiteman. But I would say that, with no skin in the game.

i cower in shame and fear when I contemplate what has happened, what’s happening now, and what grows more likely to happen in the near future, all at the hands of my tribe. I guess Indians don’t carry the same historical shame as us; we’re about to waltz into the third time we’ve exsanguinated ourselves over planetary domination, and every time thus far, the bad guys mostly won. If you guys ever become 11% of the global population, do you think you’ll be on top?

I just don’t see what’s wrong with empathy for even loose bloodkin. It’s not happening in the main stronghold, but it’s still happening, on top of South Africa and S. South America. I’m not arguing anything past that,but I do feel like you’re stirring up trouble. If you want to spar, we should do it in a different venue. I don’t know what, but not here. It just looks like infighting and dissension.

Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

>So who gets to define what is adharmic?

The author of Creation, obviously.

Of course you shouldn’t hesitate to Grasp The Nettle when the contingencies of history present you with such a lemma; but it is still a tragedy at the same time, to see men not unlike yourself ensorcelled by such contingencies; and a mind that would not see such states of affairs as tragedies would be one with problems – different kinds of problems, but still kinds of problems. Problems rather similar to those he needs to minecraft in the first place.

Suones does this himself too, when he lamented the fact that azog glowwies fight for the sake of gay anal democracy. But all the same, he wouldn’t hesitate to pull the trigger either, no?

Kunning Druegger says:

Nor would I, and this is the Nettle Compact to which I ascribe and make the blanket assumption that all here do too. We have to work from common assumptions that may not necessarily port to the IRL. Hence my agreement with Jim’s removal, as well my responding to Suones posting elsewhere; it’s a worthy discussion unworthy of This place specifically.

This debate of the tragic necessity to kill kin in wartime is a very old debate, almost as old as “war” itself.

My understanding of suones point, is that he said one should not allow misplaced sympathy for kin on the other side to dampen the morale of our own side. And he also believes that in many cases, Globohomo resorts to such demoralization tactics to weaken their enemies. Suones was simply pointing that out. Yes, we do feel pain when our kin on the other side die in a senseless war, but if we cannot turn them to our side before the war, what other option is left?

On the point of it being an enemy meme, well, our Cominator also frequently expresses the absolute need for minecrafting what he defines as “Leftists” (many of whom will fall into the loose definition of kin, even normie kin) and maybe even closer kin than in the context suones has posted) and bear in mind this is not even during War in hot fighting, but after establishment of peace. And he hasn’t got censored for it though many people including Jim disagreed on the defintion of who is an enemy Leftist and who is actually a mere NPC and on scale of minecrafting suggested by Cominator.

I am disappointed that Jim has chosen to allow his bias against suones from an earlier occasion to censor him on this occasion. Suones has never posted from the frame of being a western Reactionary and neither have I. We naturally have differing views at times from your own.

jim says:

> My understanding of suones point, is that he said one should not allow misplaced sympathy for kin on the other side to dampen the morale of our own side.

A perfectly valid point. But the problem is not Suones justification, but Krishna’s alarmingly nihilistic and demonic all purpose justification.

Which I have already addressed at considerable length.

To summarize that post in short: Spiritual detachment from this world may well be good and holy if you are a hermit in a hut in the wilderness living on locusts and wild honey, but is totally evil if you are acting in the world doing things that other people will not necessarily like. Especially if you are doing things that kin and friends may not like.

A good person may well rightly do terrible and cruel things in righteous wrath, but if he does the same things in spiritual detachment, he is an evil person.

A lot of Hindus myself included don’t interpret spiritual detachment to be a core of Lord Krishna’s teachings. Bear in mind that there are a lot of later additions and misinterpretations in the Bhagavad Gita that are wrongly attributed to Krishna. It is nowhere interpreted by Hindus that Lord Krishna commands killing in cold blood even when required to do so. What Hindu dharma actually teaches is that one needs to overcome and master our base passions for spiritual advancement.

I would also point out that the Pandavas actually did not absolutely kill their kin in cold blood but on the other hand, after the War they were overwhelmed by grief to the extent that Yudhisthira, the Eldest of the Pandavas, actually offered to hand over the reigns of the Empire to Duryodhana’s father, Dhritharashtra and go to the forest to meditate, which he was rightly dissuaded from doing.

Nevertheless, I admit that you have different interpretation of our scriptures (and in my view a flawed one common among Western academics) and therefore am not going to press too hard on this debate.

jim says:

> It is nowhere interpreted by Hindus that Lord Krishna commands killing in cold blood

The problem is that his arguments are justification for killing even when one’s blood is cold. And one’s blood may well be cold for excellent reasons. As for example killing those near for some far abstract principle.

Like I said wrong interpretations. You must allow us to make similar distinctions when we interpret our scriptures in the manner that you make the worship of serpent-Christ in the name of Jesus distinct from and hostile to traditional Christianity.

Arjuna who was the original recipient of Krishna’s wisdom and the Pandavas certainly didn’t kill their kin in cold blood and certainly great grief was felt by them after the war as is very clear in the Mahabharata.

alf says:

When we have disagreements pver scripture, it helps to use the scripture itself. Do you have a version of the baghavad vita, preferably English, that we can fall back on in such disputes?

Kisari Mohan Ganguli’s translation of the Mahabharata seems to be a good place to start.

https://mahabharataonline.com/translation/

Sri mad Bhagavad Gita by Gita press Gorakhpur seems to be the recommended translation (no commentaries)

https://book.gitapress.org/product-style-5/shrimadbhagvadgita-sanskrit-hindi-english/

Bear in mind that Hindu teachings were traditionally handed over from father to son, teacher to student orally. The written scriptures are compilations of the divine wisdom handed down from generation to generation. Translations tend to be imperfect.

But with that caveat these seem to be comprehensive sources.

Suones can correct me if my sources are flawed.

alf says:

Thanks. Could you (or Jim) point me to the specific section that is in contention? It is a rather dense text…

jim says:

> Like I said wrong interpretations.

Krishna’s sermon to Arjuna very much leaves itself open to “wrong” interpretations. It is a general all purpose justification for doing terrible things without feeling personally involved or personally responsible.

Also, he industriously undermined patriarchy and the authority of the husband.

@alf,

For a reasonably short summary of the Mahabharata, you can read Rajaji’s “Mahabharata”:

https://www.amazon.in/Mahabharata-C-Rajagopalachari/dp/8172763689

Not sure it may be available where you live.

@jim,

Krishna’s teachings have to been interpreted with the entire story of the Mahabharata as the background.

SInce I know you would not agree with me on this, I am not going to push this debate too much.

jim says:

It really does not matter that Arjuna had arguable grounds for righteous rage or grim determination.

Krishna urged him to make war in spiritual detachment. This may well have resulted in Arjuna doing the right thing, but such a frame facilitates other people in other circumstances doing very wrong things. And doing the right thing in the wrong frame makes it considerably less right, for it correlates with doing very wrong terrible things in the same frame better than it correlates with doing terrible things for a very good reason.

The Brits conquered the Rajas because the Rajas would be busying murdering their brothers and cousins, and would call in the British to lend a hand. The British were disinclined to murder each other and call in the Rajas to lend a hand.

If you are spiritually detached, it is not you chopping someone up. It is the sword chopping someone up, and you are not responsible.

> Krishna urged him to make war in spiritual detachment.

Not to be seen in that light. Krishna was giving advise on Kshatriya Dharma in the context of a war that had become absolutely inevitable. During war, a soldier should absolutely not allow tears of sentiment to cloud his aim. And his hand while firing the gun should be steady. Krishna gave Arjuna this courage.

The interpretation of spiritual detachment is a later and false interpretation.

Proof of the spirit of Krishna’s advise is that after the War, all the Pandavas grieved for their fallen kin, which shows that they didn’t kill in spiritual detachment or cold blood.

jim says:

Compare and contrast Krishna’s speech with Henry’s speech on Saint Crispin’s day.

Kunning Druegger says:

I’ve not read the dialogue between you and Jim yet, I’m making this comment blind. It is precisely because Com is Our Group (Temperate Goyim) that he can post stuff and we attack him. That’s an internal disagreement, one with which we have much precedent and experience. The Occidental-Oriental Monarchical Alliance is too young, too small, and too fragile to be playing Plank-Eye bingo. That alone makes it valid for censure.

I was tempted to engage with Suones (never wise for me, he’s a meanie pants with a 180 IQ lol) on his blog, but that would be construed as raiding, even if I made good points and held my own, because it is Mooncricket chirping in Dharma territory.

suones says:

I was tempted to engage with Suones … on his blog, but that would be construed as raiding, even if I made good points and held my own…

What? No. You’re a warrior, and if you believe that Patton was right, you’re welcome. I’d love to read a warrior’s take on needing to kill his kin that need killing — read about the ruddy-faced farmhand from Kansas. Also welcome — any friend of Anglin. But Western Aryans explicitly have to accept, or at least admit, the Aryan Nationalist frame. Christianity is allowed, of course, but it has to be Aryan Nationalist Christianity (Russian Orthodoxy, for example, ticks the second box, but is ambivalent about the first). I had assumed that “Jimian” Christianity meant the same, but I’ve been corrected.

My shill test for any Western Aryans is: Hitler did nothing wrong.

jim says:

Hitler did a lot of things wrong. He was socialist. That is wrong, and it bit him. The crisis of socialism, running out of other people’s money, hit just as he was invading Russia.

So you need a better check than “Hitler did nothing wrong” The shills can say that without raising a sweat. That is the major stock in trade of the Soros shills.

Kunning Druegger says:

How about “Speer did nothing wrong”?

Wulfgar Thundercock III says:

The better question for a shill test is what did Hitler do wrong? The main answers I can see being he did not stop the liberation of women, he thought that western communists would balk at siding with Stalin over his more “sane” leftism, and he used leftist economic policies during a total war. All of which force the speaker to assume our frame to answer.

skippy says:

How many who will say “Hitler did nothing wrong” will say “Hitler was a good man”?

suones says:

A general point: This is Jim’s place, so his rules apply.

Over at my place, a Dharmic redoubt, we do not disrespect Honoured Elders, especially those who sacrificed their life in moving the needle rightwards, even by a millimetre, because to reverse the Leftist ratchet by even a single step is to break it.

Any specific problems with National Socialism (there were a lot of them, but most of them fall on the side of them not doing enough good rather than doing evil) can be discussed, but not in a disrespectful way towards Uncle Adolf himself. Their worst sin was covetousness, but Uncle Adolf was personally blameless in this, and is not a Great Sin in the grand scheme of things. Henry VIII was also personally not a “good” man, but he did great things for England.

Man for man, Wehrmacht was a better Army that Soviets by far and also than GAE. Better warriors, better prole soldaten. They had insufficient priestly support to counter Molochite priests, and were deluded into believing the “Church” would help them (same delusion as San Fransisco Franco).

If you consider the conscript in the stahlhelm lying in a ditch with a Panzerschreck in the path of an advancing column of degenerates riding T-34s while your forefathers were bombing him, as your kin and brother, and are human enough to admit your mistake (even as Patton and Rockwell could), then (and only then) you have the right to have sympathy for Globohomo foot soldiers. If you oppose the Jewish Nuremberg doctrine that hanged a lot of good men, then you may visit my place.

An allegedly Western Aryan man who won’t even accept kinship with his own, white, Saxon, race is not a man I want to speak to. Any verbiage regarding “kinship” from such a man will be taken as priestly squid ink to demoralise my own prole soldaten, and he will be quickly introduced to my friends Webley and Scott. Any Eastern man with such views will not be given the benefit of doubt and will go straight to my elephant safari.

jim says:

This is unresponsive to my criticism of Hitler, whose central core is that he was socialist, and the crisis of socialism created logistic chaos during the invasion of Russia. It was not that they were out of spiritual support, but that they were out of gas.

Papen’s criticism of Nazism is right on the money – the problem was that they were too close to communism. And it bit them at the worst possible moment.

suones says:

We’ve been at this before, so I’ll just summarise: Uncle Adolf needed a command economy to militarise immediately under threat of a Soviet invasion. So he gave Goering the go-ahead. WWII was fought by Soviet command economy, Anglo command economy, German command economy, Japanese Imperial economy, and the Great US-General Motors command economy run by the likes of Charles Wilson. The only reason Germany lost was literally because it didn’t have the scale to match the others, even given their extremely higher efficiency.

Loss against Soviets was because Uncle Adolf was blinded by his advisors, and failed to make a pact with the Empires of Japan and China. Our Dear Netaji Subhash Chandra Bose literally experienced this first-hand. The “Axis” only existed in GAE propaganda — Germany didn’t even have a strategy for the Pacific, or Asia. Western hostilities should have ceased after France had befriended Germany, and a joint German-Japanese-Chinese siege should have been mounted to squeeze Stalin[1]. US Navy was overpowered even then, but it didn’t have the ability to project power in both Atlantic and Pacific theaters against German and Japanese Navies simultaneously.

Once they had access to Russian gas and Iranian oilfields, the War was essentially become a stalemate, and final results would depend on who made the first functional nuclear weapon.

Papen was a Catholic (lol) backstabber who betrayed everyone he could, including the Army, Hindenburg, and Hitler, who finally managed to turn the tables on to him. The very fact that he was acquitted at Nuremberg, and not hanged with the German patriots, proves his guilt. His squid ink is not worth the paper it is spilled on.

[1] German propaganda was also sabotaged by anti-Slav messaging rather than anti-Soviet-Red-traitor-Czar-Killer-Jew messaging. GAE propaganda was always miles better, whether the Canadian soldier being crucified by Germans in WWI or others.

jim says:

> Uncle Adolf needed a command economy to militarise immediately under threat of a Soviet invasion.

He was in no danger of Soviet invasion. It was obvious at the time, and we now have the Russian records.

In war, there is a case for short term socialism, because you are worried about grabbing stuff today, and not worried about having nothing to grab tomorrow. But the crisis of socialism, running out, happened just as he started the Soviet invasion. He was not applying socialism for military reasons, but shooting himself in the foot just before preparing for marathon.

You can make a pretty good case for going socialist during the Soviet invasion. But going socialist well in advance is a triumph of the holy faith of leftism over reality.

@Kunning, I would love to debate you on this or any other topic you may want in my blog as well. I find your takes on many issues very balanced and thoughtful.

Aidan says:

Suones was censored, it looks like, for disingenuous argument, not for failing to adhere to the positions of western reactionaries.

Jim accuses Hinduism of spiritual detachment for evil reasons. We are very familiar with evil spiritual detachment, because repudiating the material world manifested in the West as gnosticism. I see evil spiritual detachment among Hindus today. You are disturbingly acquiescent to the depraved conditions created by the underclass. You let your sacred river flow with trash, corpses, and shit. Whether Krishna’s advice is official doctrine or not, whether it is consciously interpreted as such or not, there is a line of continuity between it and India’s current problems.

We are familiar with evil spiritual detachment because we are forced to practice it. When I walk in the city, and my woman and I are harassed for money by a dirty bum, I am scary enough to make him fuck off, but what I want and need is to bury an axe in his temple, and it is in fact evil for me not to do so. Where as I feel that in India, a mob of god-fearing Hindus could beat some dalit nigger to death for dumping his trash in the Ganges, but they don’t. In fact, when we discussed street shitting, the attitude of the Hindu commenters was broadly one of spiritual detachment. Not as evil as spiritual detachment towards killing kin, but related in essence.

Kunning Druegger says:

Interesting take. I get that same itch with the layabouts I encounter. They actually get bussed in by “””nonprofits””” to spread the equality out of the nearby urban pit. Horror of horrors, I recently found out that panhandling is considered a first amendment activity, and they are therefore free to do it pretty much anywhere they like.

No I am not spiritually detached about the issues discussed earlier. What makes you think so? On the other hand being out of power for so long makes us appear as though we are. Our righteous anger at the situation is forcibly suppressed since India is not ruled by Hinduism. I think that’s an important point you guys miss. In some ways, our position is actually worse than whites.

For the sake of sanity we have to channel the inner righteous anger till the time is right.

Aidan says:

It’s not a personal attack and I don’t mean to make it one, so I’ll make it more broad. Hindus are clearly willing and able to apply violence against unowned women and troublesome Mohammedans. But, when it comes to their own people, and the state of their streets and rivers, spiritual detachment, with evil ends.

Dharmicreality says:

I replied downstream in the thread, to your query. Certainly there is no apathy among hindus when there is even a nominally Hindu leadership over us. The success of Swacch Bharat has been completely blacked out in the western media. Riger Ganga is being cleaned
https://nmcg.nic.in/NamamiGanga.aspx

But for coming completely out of our problems, we need a dharmic Hindu monarch, not one constrained by a Western liberal inspired constitution.

I think that what you call spiritual detachment is actually survival strategy in extremely distressing times. If we had to carry our hearts on our sleeves, we would not live long as our hearts would give up.

The pain and righteous anger is merely waiting to be channelized.

Vendat Tunicam says:

We share the same feeling. Not two miles from where I live there are homeless encampments making it dirty and dangerous to go to the beach and enjoy the park. I have pointed out to my more red-pilled friends that we could fix this problem in one night by burning the tents and hanging any of the addicts we could grab if not for the city police and g(low)men making examples of anyone involved in vigilante activity. This is a good way to viscerally point out that homeless addicts have more rights than fathers, taxpayers and property owners. After all, why are they allowed to have a nicer zip code than us while they make it unsafe for our wives and children to go to the beach?

Some of my friends are starting to come around.

Globalist Power Terminated II says:

It’s no wonder that women are increasingly shunning sexual relations with middle and upper class men in favour of shagging criminal lowlife trash.

Some of my friends are starting to come around.

WAGMI.

Dharmicreality says:

I’ve already meticulously shown how even a nominally Hindu BJP rule has not only cared about street shitting but actually taken steps to solve the problem, which achievements are blacked out in the western media.

So accusing us Hindus of spiritual detachment is highly inaccurate to say the least.

Karl says:

If your government cares about street shitting, your government doesn’t hate your people as much as western governments hate theirs. Good for your.

But my understanding from your comments (and that of Suones) is that you do not like that government all that much. Most Christian nationalists in the west consider their governments full of traitors that deserve to be hanged.

What is you position here? Do you think you have a decent, well meaning government? Or is it just some good people in goverment that have to compromise a lot and have only little power? Or is your government full of evil people that should be given the cominator treatment?

Our position is that, like Trump, Modi is the best we have in an evil system. Unlike Trump, he is still in power at the moment. We obviously feel that, like Trump, Modi is hindered at every turn and has severe limitations because of his normality bias and loyalty to the System.

But we regard criticism of Modi with suspicion especially because most of the criticisms are from the left rather than right of Modi. And even legitimate right-wing criticism of Modi needs to be tempered by the fact that he actually gets things done and has moved the needle rightwards in Indian politics.

jim says:

Did Hitler move the needle rightwards?

Well, he cleaned up the faggots and the trannies, who were then as now transexualizing children. He dramatically cleaned up art, architecture, movies, and fashion. Regardless of Hitler’s personal talents as an artist, good art and great art flourished under the Nazis, while Weimar suffocated good art then the same way it is being suffocated today. But he built no Cathedrals.

He made some good noises on the role of woman, but was disinclined to actually do much – his leftism got him, and that he was blue pilled got him.

And he moved the needle disastrously far leftwards on the economy, which was the major factor in Germany’s disastrous defeat.

Yes, socialism was the main problem of National Socialism.

Yes, he was also a Leftist, but I believe while he may not have moved the needle significantly rightward, being a Nationalist Leftist he opposed the Globalist Leftists (now Globohomo) tooth and nail, though his eventual defeat led to their victory.

Deeper within, Hitler didn’t truly believe himself to be the Divine Monarch and hence, prone to self-doubts at crucial moments

skippy says:

Hitler was genuinely right wing, as you can see by reading his speeches and his books. He thinks the state should care for the people, and he doesn’t trust or understand the joint stock corporation (this is less Nazi than simply German), but he advocates aristocracy seeing it based in natural law and the actual state of the natural world. NS was not socialist in the way most will understand socialism.

Hitler rode a populist wave to power, and then crushed it in power. He crushed the SA and wound up the mass rallies. He created a state and an elite.

The real virtue of Hitler is unknown and unknowable, a counter-factual, the world as it is compared to the world as it would have been with no Nazi Germany.

Nazi Germany llost, but Weimar was the handmaiden of the USSR, and the USSR was meant to take over the world. After Barbarossa that spell of historical inevitability was broken, and so many Soviet young men had been killed that it no longer had the physical capacity to conquer its neighbors, whatever it or its apologists may have claimed.

I believe that Hitler kicked the soul of Marxism, the Marxism of that time, and broke its sword, and only now 80 years later does it have the social power in the greatest of states that it had in 1932.

Kunning Drueger says:

@Skippy
I’d not considered the perspective that the Wehrmacht broke Soviet power in terms of global dominance capacity before. There’s definitely an argument to be made there. But we recently had an extensive and, at times, rancorous, debate regarding which -wing National Socialism was, and honestly is, with the consensus being decidedly Left. Yarvin’s contention (Nazi as crypto right-wing) was pretty soundly trumped. Here is, in my opinion, the most efficiently stated case, in terms of time: https://youtu.be/9-SLqdhkvJo

For more substantial points, refer to the Comments debate on this site (apologies, unable to locate and link ATT). On to the Needle. Any movement thereof by Hitler and his party must be judged in context to the formation of the GAE, thus, with possible exception of your assertion that the Eastern Front gutted international Marxism, it seems clear that he and they did far more evil than good. Counterfactuals are historical pornography, but just imagine how much better everything might be had Nazi Germany not aggressively expanded to deal with their stupid socialist organization methods. Of every sin laid at the door of Hitler’s Party, the creation of the GAE is the biggest and worst.

skippy says:

How much have you read of the original German sources (in translation or otherwise)? Hitler speeches, Hitler books, books by people like Rosenberg and Eckart? Goering?

Almost all discussions of NS in English only look at external appearances and commentaries in English, because the original sources are too toxic to quote under your real name.

I don’t think NS is crypto right. I think it’s openly far right. Whereas reactionism can be defined as an attempt to restore or prop up the old aristocracy, NS was an attempt to create a new aristocracy. This is further right, because an aristocracy that stands on middle class cruches is not an aristocracy.

The NS probably wanted to boot back to a time before Jim’s 17th century Restoration optimum, to the read feudal ages, and opposed the joint stock corporation. That’s a weakness but it was not a weakness based on Marxian labor theory of value.

I think Nazi Germany signed the M-R Pact primarily to secure the Romanian oil reserves rather than to prop up a failing socialist economy. I also don’t see any other solution to that problem.

jim says:

I don’t think NS is crypto right. I think it’s openly far right. Whereas reactionism can be defined as an attempt to restore or prop up the old aristocracy,

Nuts. National socialism is merely a competing brand of leftism. As it was perceived at the time. Hitler as far rightist was invented in 1944.

skippy says:

The GAE was not meant to be the winner as late as the 1950s. The GAE was meant to throw Korea. The GAE kept winning and getting and staying rich and powerful despite every attempt to sabotage it, while sabotage just could not make the USSR relatively strong enough to win.

The GAE does not become the real champion of international leftism until the 1970s.

If the USSR had taken Weimar Germany by bloodless subversion, probably followed shortly by France, different story.

The Cominator says:

“Hitler was genuinely right wing, as you can see by reading his speeches and his books. ”

Read the Table Talks and observe his policies, he was on a few things but for the most part he wasn’t.

In particular there is no right wing justification for his disastorous agriculture policy, zero.

suones says:

@Kunning

Of every sin laid at the door of Hitler’s Party, the creation of the GAE is the biggest and worst.

LOL wut? The Gay American Empire used to be the Global(ist) American Empire, and if one person can be credited with its creation it is Woodrow Wilson.

@Jim

The only reason to develop fake arguments against Nazism is to convince Amerikaner that they weren’t TOTALLY fighting for evil in WWII, because although the Nazis were Nationalist (which was a good thing till the 1960s), but they were also SoCiAliSt, which was what America had always fought against amirite? Never mind FDR’s enablement, New Deal… which were more socialist than Nazis ever were.

Messaging to 30s Amerikaner: Fight the evil Kraut for Nation and Patriotism!

Messaging to Boomer Amerikaner: Your dad fought the Nazis because they were Evil Socialists, just like you’re fighting Evil Socialists in Vietnam!

Messaging to Millennial Amerikaner: Nazis were absolute Evil because they gassed six million Jews, which is genocide because it’s bad.

Messaging today: Nazis were Evil because they were LITERALLY EVIL, like, LITERALLY, and HITLER was just like Trump with a moustache.

GAE priestly game has been (lethally) on point for a century. It’s funny how the script changes, in a grim way.

And he moved the needle disastrously far leftwards on the economy, which was the major factor in Germany’s disastrous defeat.

And out of the ashes of Nazi “Leftism” came IG Farben, Porsche, and Volkswagen, which, if Uncle Adolf had won, wouldn’t have totally wiped the floor with DuPont and GM (which they did, later, anyway). Tripe.

jim says:

> > Of every sin laid at the door of Hitler’s Party, the creation of the GAE is the biggest and worst.

> LOL wut? The Gay American Empire used to be the Global(ist) American Empire, and if one person can be credited with its creation it is Woodrow Wilson.
Hitler’s greatest sin was losing. And he lost in large part because of socialism

That, and pointlessly declaring war on America.

If not socialist, and no declaration of war on America, would have conquered Russia.

> The only reason to develop fake arguments against Nazism is to convince Amerikaner that they weren’t TOTALLY fighting for evil in WWII

Nazism was left wing movement. Supporting Nazism is not going to solve the problem. It is just a competing brand of leftism.

Similarly, look at the Nazis in the Ukraine. The GAE rather likes them, because it realizes that internationalist leftism is incapable of fighting wars effectively. It is happy if a brand of leftism defeats Russia.

Putin builds a Cathedral, and suddenly Ukrainian Nazis are no longer deemed the embodiment of evil.

Hitler did not do anything significant about female emancipation, and Ukrainian Nazis are not doing anything significant about the Gay Parade.

Anonomus says:

@ jim
“declaring war on America”
Is not this was the right call ( despite it disasterous consequence)?
The US was unofficial officially at war with hitler
The same as Putin today
FDR was clearly itching for a fight.

jim says:

Yes, clearly itching for a fight. But Hitler should not have risen to the bait when he had his hands full.

Kunning Drueger says:

Wilson was definitely the architect of the GAE, but FDR actually built and operated it, and Hitler’s shortsightedness gave it legitimacy. Had Hitler not declared war and curtailed unrestricted submarine warfare, the Europe First policy would have been DOA. FDR was itching for a fight, and Hitler gave him an excuse. Hitler did some things wrong, the biggest of which was losing. Sometimes, a loss is the result of a single critical event or decision, but more often it is a causal chain. Hitler’s socialism doomed his nation.

skippy says:

This is an excerpt from a speech Hitler gave in the film “Triumph of the Will”:

“As a Party, we have to remain in the minority because we wanted to mobilize the most valuable elements for struggle and sacrifice who, at all times, have not been the majority but a minority.

“And because these most valuable specimens of the German race, in proud self-confidence, cool and brave, demanded the leadership of the country and the people, in ever greater numbers the people have yielded and subordinated themselves.

“The German people are fortunate to know that endless flux of leadership has been replaced by a steady pole.”

This is essential rightism and spiritually incompatible with leftism. This statement could not be made not only by Lenin, or Biden, but also not by the US founding fathers.

To be right wing does not require that one is correct about every policy and decision.

skippy says:

It’s fair to complain that Germans didn’t win the war because in the end winning is all that counts.

However, it is not fair to say that the outcome decides who had better policies and approach. The Germans were always facing >2x industrial output and >4x population. They had to be better, and much better, to win.

You could say, then they should not have tried. OK, but consider the situation in 1932. Weimar with no army and tranny clinics in Berlin was just waiting to get stomped by the Soviets. The NSDAP were not secure incumbents, they were desperate men fighting for their lives.

Kunning Drueger says:

I don’t see how that speech excerpt proves that National Socialism was not socialist ideology with nationalistic parameters. I just don’t see the Nazis as right-wing. They were revolutionary in nature and character. If it has been right wing, they would have reinstituted the monarchy, or at least gone with monarchical forms. Compared to international Marxism, definitely less than Left. But leftward they remained. The only right-wing faction in the War of Progressive Aggression was Nippon.

skippy says:

They say that a small, racialized elite of people with superior traits ought to rule the country and that the masses accept and even invite this rule when it is demanded.

This is the antithesis of leftism and all demotism stated in a few words; the superficial *external* resemblance between a people obeying their nobles and a democratic movement is as misleading as to argue that the Bolsheviks weren’t a left wing movement because they were composed of a small vanguard and never won an election. The means are not the ends.

Their view on the monarchy and the old aristocracy was that it had failed Darwin’s test and ceased to be an aristocracy. A further right view than that the monarchy should be “restored” (how many people ever “restored” a superior authority and then truly submitted to it?).

skippy says:

It’s correct that Japan was the only truly right wing state in WWII whose institutions had the legitimacy of age.

Neurotoxin says:

“They say that a small, racialized elite of people with superior traits ought to rule the country and that the masses accept and even invite this rule when it is demanded.
This is the antithesis of leftism…”

Bullshit. Other than the word “racialized,” it’s pure 20th century Communism.

Cut the crap.

The Cominator says:

FDR’s clique also gave legitimacy to the Cathedral because like Stalin despite all the inefficiency FDR had some actual positive accomplishments to show for coordinating the whole economy via state power. Wilson did nothing positive, Wilson was actually more typical of the incompetent ideological fanatics who run the system today.

FDR though he prolonged the depression the unemployed got make work + bread and circus so they didn’t feel the spiritual despair the unemployed normally feel and in fact supported the system. He also did actual successful infrastructure builds (built like actual roads and bridges it wasn’t all stolen) and electrified a lot of rural areas… then he played WWII in such a way that America was the only power left on earth. You can’t say that everything about FDR’s rule was entirely negative… the Cathedral today and when it was established by Wilson. It was 100% an evil lifesucking force with no redeeming qualities under Wilson and since the 2nd term of Obama its returned to its roots…

Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

The most destructive evils are not pure evils, but evils punctuated by kernels of virtue, such that they may survive to work their evil.

Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

Our contemporaneous crop of cloistered apparatchiks would be totally unequal to the task of creating the future they live in now today; it took someone like FDR to destroy western civilization.

The Cominator says:

I still blame Wilson far more… Wilson created the cancer Harding and Coolidge held it at bay but were not quite capable of destroying it… Hoover and the fed unleashed it again. FDR tried to manage the consequences…

Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

A power that becomes possessed by daemonhosts is most dangerous in the short time frame posterior to convergence; where the daemonhosts hold authority, but have not yet destroyed the inertial vestiges of its potency from more civilized times by the matter of their authority.

Kunning Drueger says:

Apportioning blame for no technical purpose is pointless. Blaming FDR over Wilson, or vice versa, is meaningless, unless the distinction creates utility. Wilson’s 14 points are the framework on which the Global Liberal Democratic Order hangs. FDR’s management paradigm is the animating spirit of the bureaucratic leviathan. Eisenhower’s emasculated warrior ethos infuses the armed forces. LBJ’s crass, disingenuous compassion is alive today in the Elite’s embrace of DEI initiatives. Hard to say which is worse, of all these and the multitude of others.

alf says:

They say that a small, racialized elite of people with superior traits ought to rule the country and that the masses accept and even invite this rule when it is demanded.

Yeah that’s just not us.

Look, we appreciate a functioning republic just as much as the next guy. But we care about the context. The context being that the ruling elite needs to be virtuous in order for the republic to function. That turns out to be an almost impossible problem to solve. In fact, the only way to get there is having a couple of generations of monarchy, the kings becoming the standard the elite strives for.

But without monarch, parliament rots, as we have seen all over the western world. And to try the revers, from a democracy to a republic, as you claim Hitler wanted, well, it’s just plain impossible. You never get an ‘elite with superior traits’. You get a mob of opportunists and attention seekers resembling the bar scene in star wars, as Trump experienced firsthand.

Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

>Blaming FDR over Wilson, or vice versa

Nothing of the sort of course; but if the argument is, instead of apportioning special blame, it is apportioning a special dispensation for one such men, then of course, one must be more specific in pushing back on it.

skppy says:

@alf

Hitler isn’t advocating a republic, he’s advocating an elite aristocracy..

jim says:

No, not the ideology of national socialism, not the rhetoric.

Hitler was a populist. We are the opposite.

Hitler claimed to be the people incarnate in one man, and supposedly the people thus ruled. Aristocracy has an ideology that your relationship is with your lord, monarch is far away, and he is the lord’s problem. When lords come into conflict, he then meddles in the affairs of lords, but he does not meddle in your affairs.

skippy says:

You are saying that one particular rightist scheme is all of rightism, everything else is leftism.

Hitler was not a populist or a demotist. He used these tools to take power, advocating an irremovable government by a narrow elite of the most able, and this is what he implemented.

jim says:

You are being deliberately silly.

Read Papen’s Marburg speech.

Hitler was a leftist. He sounds like a leftist. Talks like duck, walks like a duck. Papen was the cuckservative right. The Christian right was the Christian right, the reactionary right was the reactionary right. Hitler and the commies were the radical left, and were perceived by the right, the aristocratic right, and the big business elite as the radical left. The idea that Hitler was rightist appeared immediately postwar. Did not occur to people at the time, did not occur when Hitler was in power and acting.

Trump is a rightist. National Capitalism. Hitler a leftist, National Socialism. It is right there in the name. Every non socialist party is to the right of every socialist party.

Similarly, it is perfectly clear that the Ukrainian Nazis are leftists. Who can possibly doubt it? In Ukraine, we see the nationalists on the left, and those favoring Russian hegemony on the right. Plain as the nose on your face.

Even today, nationalism is not a reliable indicator of left right alignment, and it certainly was not in Europe, where nationalism was a movement against the old empires.

The Cominator says:

“You are saying that one particular rightist scheme is all of rightism, everything else is leftism.”

Yes you either rule in harmony with the divine natural law or you do not.

skippy says:

There is only one perfection, but all real political actions are matters of tendency.

The question jim asked was “Did Hitler move the needle rightwards?”

Hitler was not only to the right of Weimar, but to the right of Thomas Jefferson and the Kaiser.

Skippy says:

A quote from the Marburg speech of Papen:

“If the liberal revolution of 1789 was the revolution of rationalism against religion, against attachment, so the counter-revolution taking place in the twentieth century can only be conservative, in the sense that it does not have a rationalizing and disintegrating effect, but once again places all of life under the natural law of Creation. That is presumably the reason why the cultural leader of the NSDAP, Alfred Rosenberg, spoke of a conservative revolution. From this there emerge in the field of politics the following clear conclusions: The time of emancipation of the lowest social orders against the higher orders is past.”

Papen is criticizing the Brownshirts as a leftist influence. He gave the speech on June 17th 1934 and NSDAP suppressed the Brownshirts on June 30th 1934.

skippy says:

Hitler was the great fighter and great rightist of the 20th century.

But ultimately I come to agree with jim: his great weakness is that he was not a Christian.

He should have been just as much a fighter, and no less a Christian,

I see nazism as the prole right wing movement. They have the right instincts on issues that direcly affect proles i.e, immigration, race, diversity etc because their neighbourhoods are most affected by diversity and jobs affected by immigration.

But lacking Priestly guidance, nazism falls back on leftwing morality as it lacks memetic sovereignty and priestly right wing guidance. This is why nazis are vulnerable to be influenced by left wing attack on merchants for instance: like blaming merchants for importing cheap immigrant labour and losing jobs.

Kunning Druegger says:

Hey Jim, do you think the RNC, Republicans, Conservatives, and the State RNCs all coordinated over Abortion: Round II, or are they all playing multi-player real time prisoner’s dilemma? An inverted conservicuck purity spiral over even 2012 talking points would seriously jam up GAE core human resources department. Could we meme the Party into going full on paleocon lite? Is there a state that could vote in, leave out even getting it considered, that would enshrine marriage legally and as ConLaw tight as possible?

If what you say is true, as in What You Say, shouldn’t there be a ton of power locked up in the laws and statutes around maleness, femaleness, and union, and their control?

jim says:

They are all playing multi player prisoners dilemma with a short and rapidly diminishing number of rounds, but due to normality bias, many of the players think they have unlimited rounds. Those players will get burned.

Kunning Drueger says:

Can the conservative Americans buy more time by going for an enshrined bifurcation of law similar to slavery? Legally highlighting the Divide. Abortion trigger laws are an antiquated weapon that was never going to get deployed because Cthulhu’s leftward drift was modeled as uniform. The drift is turbulent. Can tentacles be nailed down, slowing the spiral to buy time? Would buying time be a good thing? I’m making a stark distinction between good people continuing to slow the pernicious effect of evil people in little ways, and something a little aprecedented. Is the RvW correction an open door, or just another governor on the spin? Is it a viable path to a coup-comparative like the drafting of the constitution or Jackson’s spoils system?

The Cominator says:

Contrary to what accelerationists say buying time is generally a good thing, evil and insane rule tends to sap its own strength over time…

The longer you can delay having to fight them generally the weaker they’ll be when the time comes. There are a lot of exceptions depending on details but time is not on their side. The devil comes down in great wrath for he knows his time is short.

Kunning Druegger says:

That’s kinda what I’m driving at. If there was a shift “hard right,” even in a few states, the “refuge” mentality and the “defend safe ground” tendency might kick in substantially. Consider, as a proto example, how many people and families just went to FL and SD for the slight material advantage of soft/no lockdown. If you turn that into a slate of freedoms, proscriptions, and rules, there might be an actual red wave to some place.

Mister Grumpus says:

Please elaborate on the “multi player prisoners dilemma” angle. I’m not quite understanding you yet.

Kunning Druegger says:

I was explicitly referring to the Trigger Laws going into effect in GOP controlled states. These are often political measure created and codified in a far more ritualistic and “sane” past. I don’t believe the current crop of conservicucks put the whole thing together. They are probably not having conferences and building strategic plans, so they are acting in isolation, uncertain of what the other “prisoners” are going to do. Hence, real time multiplayer Prisoners Dilemma.

The left is coordinated and proactive. While I still maintain that there’s no explicit centralized Control Entity, they are well situated to coordinate in taking advantage of events. A faggot judge pulls some silliness in Hawaii, and leftist actionistas take advantage and make moves. I don’t know if “cascade” or “feedback loop” is the proper term, but the net effect is that Cthulu swims left.

So I was wondering if the rightward Governors were coordinating. “Hey, we’ve got these Trigger Laws going off, are you going to do so as well?” “Yeah, mos def my guy. We’re also going to mandate AR-15 ownership for all white males.” “That’s legit. We are going to enshrine marriage as a protected class.”

Obviously silly, but not as farfetched as one might think. Think back to the Obama Regime’s strategic use of the “Dear Colleague” letter for turning “traps” into “transpeople” in very short order.

Jehu says:

I see that Arizona just opened a massive threat to the K-12 public educational institution (which I’d like to see demolished and the soil salted).

Apparently some years back, Arizona passed a law saying if your school sucked (operationalized by saying bottom 10 or 20% in terms of standardized tests), you could take 90% of your school funding and go…anywhere (private schooling, charter schools, homeschooling, etc).

Predictably, the Educational institution screamed bloody murder and predicted an apocalypse, but instead, apparently educational performance improved somewhat in Arizona.

Now they’ve passed the same rule in general as a law. Anybody in AZ who doesn’t like their school can say, just give me the $7K.

Anyone got predictions on what fraction takes the money and runs? My guess is at least 25%, and it has a positive feedback cycle characteristic to it. You could very well see the total destruction of one of the major Cathedral organs in AZ.

Karl says:

Shaniqua will take the $7k per child. Spend the money and bring the children back to school.

I expect schools will be noticeably whiter, but only for a few weeks.

Jehu says:

I suspect you’ll see another bigtime increase in homeschooling (the rates are well above 10% now), and a lot of whites will bail for private school options as well.

I’m also guessing that an option will open up for the best 5% or so of public school teachers. Pick 15 or so students that you like fairly well and hang out your shingle for say 8000 per student per year (i.e. about 1000 per year higher so that parents feel they have skin in the game). Maybe make a joint business with one other teacher with complementary expertise.

Kunning Drueger says:

… that’s not a half bad idea.

Ghost says:
Kunning Drueger says:

No one is perfect. Anglin likes the big signs with the truth scrawled on them, as do I. He may not be aware of the WBC’s possible fed connection. I don’t really see this as an endorsement, but if Anglin does start to endorse WBC, that would be a very bad sign. The theory that WBC is a fed psyop is not common knowledge, so this could be a case of ignorance. Tbqh fam, I’d love for Anglin to dig into the theory; he’s quite good at cutting straight to the bone. If I had a means for contacting him, I’d ask him myself. As it is, I can only hope he sees our ongoing dialogue.

kawaii_kike says:

Perhaps you could try contacting him on his gameruprising forum, you can’t make an account but there’s a “Contact Us” link at the bottom.

https://gameruprising.to/index.php

Guy says:

A woman ( I know…) who was wife to one of the top guys in the WBC did an interview with Milo Yianoppolous ( I know….) in which she sounded very sane and let up no red flags to make me suspect it’s a glowie outfit. Maybe she’s not wise to those machinations, but when asked what the strategy was going to soldiers funerals with”God hates fags” signs she said basically there was no strategy. She said that God’s hatred for fags was obvious when looking at their lives, and that it was their responsibility to tell the truth about it.

I came away with a positive impression of the group, they seemed better than most denominations

Ghost says:

Thanks 2K, that forum is invite only though. Gab would be another contact point.

AA is a hard read. He could be using sarcasm though. WBC site is to be avoided. Odd how it hasn’t been shut-down. Could be an IP honeypot.

I visit a few politically incorrect sites and have yet to get a knock at the door.

The Cominator says:

Why are middle and upper middle class white women in blue states such damn fanatics yes yes they are conformists NPCs but women outside this group are not such damn fanatics…

Abortion ain’t going to get banned in their states and I don’t think most of these frigid cunts have ever had an abortion… probably most of them are super scared of STDs and pregnancy both and never let anyone including chad rawdawg them unless they’re on the pill. Like the complete opposite of strippers.

Fireball says:

What you are seeing is true in any religion. The church lady stereotype exist for a reason.

Orwell notice it too.

Kunning Druegger says:

Your naivety in regard to white women is endearing, bro. White women follow an insectile model of maturation, moving through stages based on seasonal climate, foraging opportunities, and biological urges. White women enter the world as babies, not dissimilar from other humankind, but are fed a steady diet of Princess Jelly, a hyper concentrated mixture of blind love and restriction-free guidance. This, mixed with a paradox tea of equality over everyone else, causes the sweet little white girl to mature into a brat grub. The brat grub dresses like a slut even before sexual maturity is initiated, and predates on the population of immature white males in a suicidal attempt to attract a mature white male. If a mature white male is successfully signaled, engaged, then destroyed, the brat grub pupates into a turbo slut (if the brat grub is wholly owned by the male, it’s a very different story). If no mature white male is captured, the brat grub pupates into Schrodninger’s Harlot, a woman that is at the same time wholly given over to slutty displays in public while in bed just a limp starfish. If Schrodinger’s Harlots don’t become possessed by a Chad, they will eventually take possession of a Husk Male, the sad result of an immature white male destroyed by a brat grub. Schrodinger’s Harlot matures into a Fertile Karen, which is a politically dangerous entity with little intellect and a massive capacity for needling, damage, and trouble, particularly if they start getting fed Princess Jelly by beta orbiters and “followers.” The Fertile Karen is the White Woman most commonly referenced in the literature, and if they are allowed to organize without being shunted into a continuous birthing process, they are known to instantiate colony collapse. The process is poorly understood, but conjecture is that the Fertile Karen believes she is some reality-defying combination of Turbo Slut and Brat Grub in a Schrodinger’s Harlot configuration. Counterintuitively, Turbosluts are far less dangerous than Fertile Karens, which is where your perspective of strippers is derived, but this is merely a curio of the current context. Like a bear, all white women pose significant danger when hungry and unrestrained.

The Cominator says:

I have no doubt that all these women who are vocal about this are total starfishes… if they showed more enthusiasm maybe chad wouldn’t have dropped them like a hot potato. Also I think its the equality propaganda tea more than anything…

restitutor_orbis says:

I would like to subscribe to your Nature documentary on YouTube

Mister Grumpus says:

Molyneux (PBUB) noted how middle age is a real shocker for childless women.

For 20 years they get everything they want for free, without having to put out much effort (besides keeping their wombs free for Jeremy Meeks), and then whammo, boom, invisible forever and no one cares.

Those who got attention and compliance on sex appeal alone suddenly have to switch to nagging, but without a captive audience at home, and that’s what you’re seeing. Mass nagging and shit testing. They dare us to chain them up and no one’s taking the offer.

Pax Imperialis says:

Big difference between middle and upper middle class. Upper middle class is basically the polite American way of saying upper class but not top elite. There’s a big social difference between a police officer and a lawyer. Both are “middle class,” yet their social status is highly divergent.

The fanaticism you talk about is not limited to blue states, it exists almost universally in the upper middle class and trickles down into the actual middle class due to fashion being downstream of power. I grew up in an upper middle class family and went through an upper middle class school system. The social environment was just a fanatical and liberal as any coastal liberal city even though I was in a deeply conservative flyover state.

In upper class environments, virtue and not money is the main currency of social status. At a certain point, there is little status difference between making 100k vs 250k to the extent it no longer provides a good basis for determining social status. The main method of obtaining social status in peace time societies is through virtue. Contrast that with wartime where status is determined by being able to take and hold ground. Claiming virtue via speech is always easier than claiming virtue via action. Easier to picket in the streets shouting virtuous slogans than to live like a nun.

Women are extremely conscious about other women’s feelings on an evolutionary basis. Whereas men compete via action, women compete via speech. An upper middle class man signals virtue for example by buying an electric car. There are hard physical limits that will prevent the practicality for men to demonstrate their virtue (because in the earlier example a man is going to recognize he needs to be able to drive more than 100 miles). The only limits for a women to demonstrate her virtue is how much time and lung capacity she has.

Because virtue in modern times is determined by speech, and women are extremely conscious about other’s feelings, you get massive conformity among women in their virtue signaling to avoid being hurt or hurting another woman. However, since women want to increase their social status, not just maintain it, they must increase their virtue which leads to all the women feeling pressured to also increase their virtue at the same time.

This problem gets compounded by the fact there are no modern mechanisms for limiting female virtue signaling spirals by putting their speech to a practical test. Can’t force women who claims to be virtuous to go live as a nun.

On the topic of upper middle class women’s sexual morality. Many are quite loose. College educated women surpass coital rates of less educated women. Think almost Roman orgy levels of debauchery. They are not supper scared of STD because STDs are largely a lower class problem. Most are on the pill or similar. Most will never even have to worry about getting an abortion, but the thought that they might have to live with the consequences of sex when it is so easily given away is frightening. So on a deeply emotional level, upper middle class women are likely to support abortion the most even if they are the least likely to ever have to use it.

The Cominator says:

“College educated women surpass coital rates of less educated women.”

Maybe when they are in college if they are in lower tier “party” colleges, but girls in lower tier colleges don’t necessarily join the Karen brigade. The Karens aren’t hedonists at least not in a way that I ever saw even remotely… they are as someone said generally the church ladies of globohomo.

“Can’t force women who claims to be virtuous to go live as a nun.”

I would just burn them. I do not think nuns should exist either…

As far as fanaticism in blue enclaves in red states… I think it depends. I don’t think its a big thing say here in Florida (Florida has a lot of rich people who openly and vocally hate leftists and moved here to not deal with them in power and put pressure the other way in upper class blue enclaves), in Austin Texas otoh yeah its a big thing.

“STDs are largely a lower class problem.”

STDs are a gay problem, I’m convinced they are very rare among heterosexuals…

Pax Imperialis says:

All colleges with few exceptions are party colleges. Sexual debauchery increases with exclusivity of the college, not decreases. Consider the fact that being born into the upper middle class families almost guarantees going to higher tier colleges. Also most upper middle class high-school are practically scaled down versions of college with all the social attitudes that entails.

Sexual permissiveness among the upper middle class is extremely high. A number of of my White friends in high-school had a dozen or so girl friends each during that time. They fucked most of them. Their fathers knew about it… and were supportive.

Nearly all the popular girls in my high-school experience were in the Karen brigade. By the time they hit college, they were ready made to go protesting topless and taping their used menstrual pads to the walls of the women’s center. What’s going on is more than what the church ladies dynamic can explain. Church ladies are the way they are because they have dried up wombs and nothing better to do.

Go to any American college in warmer climates, it’s more obvious there, and you’ll see nearly all the young and beautiful women wearing extremely skimpy clothes all the time, not just for sorority functions. You’ll see nearly all the women protesters are not dried up wombs, but are young and fertile women who fuck.

Nuns are required to remind a high status women where she could end up… or least is was until it became an entirely voluntary thing. A living warning is a constant warning. A dead warning is frightening in the moment and soon forgotten until tested again. Both have their place.

Much of the blue enclaves in red states are college campus enclaves which are really just upper middle class enclaves. A problem Florida has as well.

“STDs are a gay problem, I’m convinced they are very rare among heterosexuals…”

Sometimes I’m too polite to my own determent. By lower class I largely meant African Americans and those who are unfortunate to have to live with them. STDs are a huge problem in the black population and those who habitat with them. They are practically African tier rates (which shouldn’t be surprising considering they are African in origin). Upper middle class women love defending blacks, they rarely are willing to actually fuck them. Not saying it doesn’t happen, but when it does it tends to be with Mulatto Obama types. The sort that gets called Oreos.

The Cominator says:

“Straight” black guys get gay diseases because they fuck each other in the a## in prison.

Aidan says:

Class differences in womens sexual behavior are more or less trivial.

Pax Imperialis says:

Wrong.

Women’s sexual behavior is completely dependent on the permissiveness of the social environment. Massive class differences exist there.

It’s predominately the upper middle class that gives their daughters birth control while they are still in high school. Lower class does not have that money, Upper class communities are largely isolated from STDs or have easy access to medical care. Lower class communities are not.

What do you think happens when girls are given complete detachment from even the possibility of consequences from sex?

What do you think those girl’s sexual behavior will be when they grow up to be adults with the massive stockpile of daddy’s money?

That said… Class differences in women’s sexual desires are small enough to be trivial (measurable differences still exist).

Aidan says:

Women do not give a damn about the consequences, and their pretending to care about the consequences of sex is a shit test. I had more women complain about the prospect of getting rawdogged when they were rich and on birth control. Refer to the pro-abortion protestors all being wealthy white women on the pill.

The difference is in the quality of men. Working class men are more likely to apply four thousand year old measures to keep their relationships stable, thus when a working class woman says she has a boyfriend, she is more likely to mean it, and not get anywhere near your cock. So, working class women of a higher moral quality on average, because their men make them so. Nothing to do with the costs of having a baby

Pax Imperialis says:

“Class differences in womens sexual behavior are more or less trivial.”

“So, working class women of a higher moral quality on average, because their men make them so.”

Which is it? Because what I’m saying is that women’s sexual behavior is completely dependent on the permissiveness of the social environment and that the upper middle class is not only failing to encouraging good behavior among their women, but is actively and extensively promoting bad behavior.

My statements are not in conflict with your second statement, but they are in extreme conflict with your first.

Women do give a damn about consequences because they give a damn about how men will deal with them in relation to their actions. You acknowledge as much with “Working class men are more likely to apply four thousand year old measures to keep their relationships stable.”

What I’ve observed and experienced in the upper middle class American culture is that the fathers are largely extremely supportive of their daughter’s sexual misbehavior. That creates an environment of debauchery as the boys catch.

“Nothing to do with the costs of having a baby”

Wasn’t talking about the cost of having a baby. I mentioned the cost of birth control and the social effects it has. Namely the cost keeps the lower class more grounded to those “four thousand year old measures” in sharp contrast to the upper class which freely promote birth control among their children.

Much of what I wrote is about the sheer and complete moral decay in the upper middle class and why that is responsible for the misbehavior of those rich white women in the public square. Hence why so many of the pro abortion protesters are rich white women,

I’ll rephrase my questions.

What message does a father give his daughter when he gives her liberal access to birth control during her high school years?

What message is that father giving to all the boys in his daughter’s social sphere when he does that?

Now what happens when nearly the entire upper middle class is doing that and then sending their daughters to college?

Do you get the point I’m making? Financial restrictions of the lower class naturally prevents them from making those mistakes. The moral rot in the upper middle class is extensive.

jim says:

> > “So, working class women of a higher moral quality on average, because their men make them so.”

> Which is it?

Presupposing that they have a working class dad who is their biological father, yes, better quality, lower count, for a fish rots from the head down. The source of the blue pill is the elite.

Bonus marks if their dad beat them when they needed it.

jim says:

> Women do give a damn about consequences because they give a damn about how men will deal with them in relation to their actions.

Women are not future oriented in regard to impact of what they are doing now with Mister Very Wrong is likely to impact subsequent interactions with Mister Right, because in the environment of evolutionary adaptation, the successful female reproductive strategy is to be conquered and abducted by Mister Very Wrong.

They are very strongly impacted by social pressure, primarily the social pressure of other women, and in a society where men are emasculated and masculinity illegal, scarcely impacted by social pressure of males.

But even in societies where male authority was respected and enforced, men tended to follow a strategy where they arranged for the social circle of a young woman was dominated by older virtuous wives, indicating that social pressure from women matters a great deal everywhere at all times.

Adam says:

It’s been my observation, in rural communities with many families with many children and few divorces, the mothers and grandmothers put enormous pressure on each other and their daughters to marry a good provider early.

Teen girls still cruise for alpha and so do wives from time to time, but it’s far less than what you will see in a larger population. It is an entirely different social environment than what you would find on a college campus.

Most girls still marry their first and stay married, with lots of kids.

The dads have a say, but the women seem to do the dirty work of keeping each other in line.

The Cominator says:

They don’t care when they are aroused enough… but feminist women of the upper middle class do not let them go near situations where they might get aroused enough except when extremely drunk.

Ron says:

Its not about abortion, its about Roe

Roe wasnt about abortion. It was about 7 justices telling everyone else what the new law was.

According the Jimmian theory of politics, that means Harvard telling everyone else what the law was.

The women are not upset about abortion, they are upset that their tribe, Harvard, no longer gets to dictate terms to people in Kentucky

It takes about 5 min to change state law to permit abortion. A woman in a non abortion state has to drive at most 5 hours to get one. If she really really needs one, and is too lazy to drive or get any number of willing drivers, she can find a doctor in her hometown who will. Bc no one is actually going to say “no”. And no one is going to actually prosecute a doctor who saves a young girl from dealing with the consequences of her stupid decisions. And if they did, the pro choice advocates would LOVE it

So its not about “choice” its really about Roe

Neurotoxin says:

“Roe wasnt about abortion. It was about 7 justices telling everyone else what the new law was… The women are not upset about abortion, they are upset that their tribe, Harvard, no longer gets to dictate terms to people in Kentucky.”

Bingo.

No doubt there are also feminists who want to be able to “terminate” an inconvenient pregnancy, but mostly it’s about power.

The Cominator says:

Well far more consequential along these lines will be West Virginia vs EPA…

That one actually WILL have major consequences (Texas and the Dakotas will actually be able to drill frack and refine oil most notably) if West Virginia wins.

Neurotoxin says:

I’m having a hard time understanding the Supreme Court lately… though it’s been pleasant, since the last two surprises have been in a positive direction. First the Roe v. Wade decision, which boldly kicked the left in the balls, then the decision that supported the 2nd Amendment, just when the left was getting ready for more anti-2nd Amendment movement.

The Cominator says:

We know Thomas (who wanted to hear the Texas election case) absolutely hates the same people we hate… and Alito mostly does too.

It’d be a pleasant surprise if he can get 3 of the 4 normally cuckservative justices we need to go along with him West Virginia vs EPA and resurrect the nondelegation doctrine or AT LEAST the major questions doctrine.

Neurotoxin says:

“…resurrect the nondelegation doctrine …”

That would be awesome, but it would take a miracle.

The Cominator says:

I could see them doing the Major Questions doctrine, even the cuckservatives are big angry at how radical Biden’s regulatory goons are. Shutting down energy now plans to all but ban tobacco and vapes both… It gives SCOTUS a very good excuse.

Ron says:

If by “miracle” you mean extremely good blackmail backed up by a lot of pissed off and hungry young men carrying guns under the command of bitter and salty older men who care about order, then yes, “a miracle”.

jim says:

I conclude that they were alarmed by Republican voters abandoning cuckservatism for Christian maga nationalism in the primaries, and decided to allow the cuckservatives some red meat.

Midway through the primaries, the primaries started being spectacularly stolen from outsider politicians everywhere simultaneously. Almost the same thing happened in Australia. Shortly afterwards, arrests, assaults, and destruction of Christian maga nationalist property ensued.

And shortly after this world wide crackdown on people outside the political establishment, we see some red meat being thrown into political arena for the establishment cuckservatives to distribute to disaffected Christian maga nationalist voters.

The Cominator says:

Well if they revive non delegation or even major questions it’d be very strong red meat…

jim says:

The supply of red meat will be adjusted to that necessary to distract the Republican voters from Christian maga nationalist voters. Note that Christian maga nationalism is much the same thing a Christian National Capitalism.

This is a program for maintaining normality without those inconvenient maga voters, until they can be entirely replaced by imports.

But I do not think normality is on offer. If red meat supplied to Republican voters, the fragile hold of the gerontocrats and kelptocrats on power is likely to be threatened by the even radical left, which daily becomes ever more radical.

The balancing act has gone on a lot longer than I expected. I expected an upset by 2021 April. But they are still teetering uneasily. The kleptocrats and gerontocrats want things to return to the 2014 normal. They are not going to get there from here.

Neurotoxin says:

“The kleptocrats and gerontocrats want things to return to the 2014 normal.”

Do they seriously think a war with Russia is going to accomplish that?!

Kunning Druegger says:

Over my head but on my radar:

https://hiddencomplexity.substack.com/p/monkeypox-may-have-undergone-accelerated

Excerpt:

“So my argument so far (very opinionated to be clear) is the following. Both the viral infection of SARS-CoV-2, and the pandemic measures (lockdowns literally work in reverse, help spread diseases, and hinder your immune response to other viruses) help drive the evolution of the current strain of MonkeyPox a little by causing enough subclinical immune shift in the infected.

In the global vaccination campaigns, with a vaccine that has extensive literature on its immunosuppressive effects, the constant reinfection causes a shift (drastic change in immunology) of immunological landscape (population-wide immune system and their response), which gave the proper and perfect landscape for certain latent viral infections to go rampant and evolve in months what would take, perhaps, decades.

The accelerated evolution they can’t explain has a clear cause…”

jim says:

For accurate and detailed information on biological attack on humans, conducted through the polygon’s vast network of biowar labs, some of which were recently suddenly interrupted in the Ukraine, follow Igor Chudov and subscribe to his newsletter.

The effect and intent of vax is to attack people’s immune systems and reproductive systems.

Countries that are heavily vaxxed have a serious and permanent Covid plague. Countries that scarcely vaxed have quite low levels. It is pretty obvious that it is anti vaccine.

Mister Grumpus says:

@Jim:
“The effect and intent of vaxx is to attack people’s immune systems and reproductive systems.”

Hold up! “Intent”, you say? That’s a big jump from your earlier take on the vaxx from some months ago, which was, essentially, that it was Shaniqua playing vaccine science lady in the mRNA room.

This is not a gotcha. I just want to ask what information or revelation brought you to this place on the game board. I don’t want to miss this. Was it Dr. Chudov’s work?

Anyone else who’s come this distance, please sound off as well.

jim says:

I have been reading Igor Chudov, and have changed my mind.

It is Shaniqua, which is why the attack has not been very effective.

Mister Grumpus says:

So genuinely malicious intent at the top, but working through Shaniqua, so it comes out retarded and not of Doctor Evil?

Varna says:

Thanks for the name, Jim!

Checked him out, fascinating stuff indeed.

His collection of info on the fertility rates suddenly falling by 10-20% across the mutagen spiked populations is very thought provoking, as is the globohomo news articles he found that it’s actually climate change doing that kek.

The data that Pfeizer and Moderna give people slow-motion AIDS through a self-perpetuating low-grade dumpster fire of constant reinfection is also pretty compelling.

This was a much needed reminder that there are deeper processes of planetary scope happening, behind the drama with the Ukraine, the world economy, the supreme court and whatnot. Under the surface some major shit is just rolling onward.

simplyconnected says:

His twatter account is pretty good too.

jim says:

Twatter gets ever worse. If you want be well informed, subscribe to his email. If you want to be entertained while informed in slower and more irregular fashion, his substack.

Karl says:

I’m surprised that Igor Chudov can publish such thought crime on substack.

The followers of the covid demon appear to be rather weak.

jim says:

Yes, the plan was that the awesome might of The Awesome and Mighty Covid Demon would immediately make the health authorities awesome and powerful, but he turned out to be not very mighty, so they gave him a bit of a helping hand, but as time wears on, people are less and less awed. Plus they were brushed aside by the World War III faction. And then the Military Industrial complex raised their snouts from the trough and said to the World War III faction “wait a minute”

Some time ago I observed that demon worshipers have their own take on Book of Revelations. The bit about a thousand years of rule by Satan danced in their eyes. But these are not the four Horsemen of the apocalypse, but second rate imitations cooked up by Shaniqua. And the attacks of food production are just embarrassing.

simplyconnected says:

Great, thanks. I thought you were calling his substack his newsletter. Good to know.

simplyconnected says:

If you want be well informed, subscribe to his email. If you want to be entertained while informed in slower and more irregular fashion, his substack.

Did subscribe, but his newsletter is his substack, it’s the same articles. Twatter is not bad because he often posts similar things as jikkyleaks, who posts mostly on information dug up from the pfizer document dumps (not that we need much more confirmation of fraud in the “clinical trials”). His substack “blogroll” is good too.

simplyconnected says:

Don’t forget neurological damage, which is the most frequent injury and can take long to manifest.

I was since almost two years ago in the “intentional genocide” camp because I took their club of Rome-type pronouncements seriously. Even that “Silent weapons for quiet wars” document whose provenance was hard to establish is looking increasingly like it may be legitimate. That one is supposed to be an internal document, so openly talks about “genocide and benevolent slavery”. Note Dennis Meadows (hired by club of rome to write “the limits to growth”) speaks of a “smart dictatorship” and huge drop in living standard (slavery), plus an “unavoidable” very large drop in population in whose experience “everyone participates” (sounds like genocide to me).

simplyconnected says:

Sorry, that was meant as a reply to Mister Grumpus.

Globalist Power Terminated II says:

Sweet Jesus these people really are mentally diseased fuckheads who want to make sure everyone commits suicide with them.

simplyconnected says:

I forgot to link video of club of Rome member Dennis Meadows explaining how he hopes the experience of going from 7 to 1 billion people is shared by everyone.

simplyconnected says:

[…] who want to make sure everyone commits suicide with them.

I doubt the club of Rome people are planning on “sharing in the genocide experience”, after all, someone has to be alive to run that “smart dictatorship” of theirs.
Their genes are guaranteed to make it through the “shared experience”, so will be disproportionately represented in the future population. At a basic level something like that may be part of their true intention. Obviously these people don’t pull off such a massive “shared experience” without achieving multiple objectives. One of the objectives stated in silent weapons for quiet wars is the elimination of creditors.

Varna says:

From the vintage 1923 Bolshevik space opera Aelita. On Mars, where two Earthmen have arrived, civilization is decadent, and the head of the technocratic council is announcing plans for an orderly extinction, which the working class is against.
https://anonfiles.com/31e561tcy7/tolstoy_alexei_aelita_pdf

Tuscoob again restored order in the amphitheatre with a
twitch of his brow.
“The history of Mars is drawing to a close. Life is waning
on our planet. You know the birth and death rates. In a few
more centuries the last of the Martians will watch the sun set for
the last time. We are powerless to arrest the process of
extinction. We must be wise and take firm action to grace the
world’s last days with luxury and joy. Our initial task is to
destroy the city. It has done its duty to civilization. Now it is
corrupting civilization and must perish.”

Gor, the young broad-visaged young Martian Gusev had
seen on the screen, rose from his place in the centre of the
amphitheatre.

He had a low, rasping voice. His finger pointed at Tuscoob.
“He lies! He wants to destroy the city to keep his power.
He condemns us to death to retain power. Pie knows that the
only way he can retain power is to destroy millions of people.
He knows how much he is hated by those who do not fly in
golden boats, who live and die in the subterranean factory cities,
who roam the dusty passages on holidays, yawning from
despair, and who seek oblivion frenziedly in the accursed
khavra.
Tuscoob has made our deathbed. Let him lie on it
himself. We do not wish to die. We were born to live. We know
that Mars is doomed to extinction. But there is salvation—it
will come from the Earth, the people of the Earth—a sound,
fresh race with hot blood. He fears them. Tuscoob, you have
hidden two men from the Earth in your home. You are afraid of
them, the Sons of the Sky. You are strong only among the weak
and khavra-doped. When strong hot-blooded men come, you
will become a mere shadow—a nightmare. You will vanish like
a phantom. That is what you fear most.

Cloudswrest says:

Looks like Dish Network is trying to indirectly fuck with Starlink.

——————————–

Today we ask for your support in ending a lobbying campaign that threatens to make Starlink unusable for you and the vast majority of our American customers.

As recently reported, DISH Network has been hoarding spectrum for years as a strategy for preventing open and fair competition.

Most recently, DISH has been attempting to claim new rights to the 12 GHz band, which is the spectrum you currently use to download content with Starlink. Despite technical studies dating back as far as 2016 that refute the basis of their claims, DISH has employed paid lobbyists who are attempting to mislead the FCC with faulty analysis in hopes of obscuring the truth.

In reality, if DISH gets their way, Starlink customers will experience harmful interference more than 77% of the time and total outage of service 74% of the time, rendering Starlink unusable for most Americans. You can read the details here.

The FCC and your members of Congress have the power to stop this effort, but they need to hear from you.

https://api.starlink.com/public-files/12GHzInterferenceStudy_062022.pdf

Frank Matters says:

Jim, time is very ripe for you to get out a whitepaper on properties you need for a namespace. People will just go to ENS et al if no one builds something better.

https://twitter.com/lefterisjp/status/1540306236087877635

notglowing says:

ENS is a pretty simple system built on Ethereum. There is nothing wrong with ENS, though it isn’t perfect. But the issue Jim has with it is the platform it is built on.

If you have another blockchain, you can make an ENS equivalent on it.

Frank Matters says:

Building your entire p2p ledger ecosystem is becoming easier in tooling but much harder in mindshare. It might be better to make a technical criticism of ETH, which can be meme’d among the crowd actually building this stuff. The WQ may be a bit far but most crypto developers are easily convinced to not trust things the US government has put its fingers on. It’s bad because of the people building it is a weak argument, suspicion is justified but you should at least be able to point out the places where vulnerabilities are apt to be slipped in.

The matchsticks and glue complaint is valid, but becoming less so. Some of the tooling is looking pretty good lately. Very much is time to put out your designs to grab mindshare before the underlying architectures ossify.

jim says:

And that report is softballing it.

“Of 186 F-22 Raptor fighters, only about 93 are ready to fly missions at any particular time”

Of those ready to fly missions, most of them do not have the full set of working capabilities that they are likely to need when the mission gets interrupted by the enemy.

In theory, a full capable F-22 fighter is superior to any Russian equivalent. How these actual “mission capable” Raptor fighters would fair against an actual Russian warplane remains to be seen.

Mister Grumpus says:

An F-22 will fail to the junkiest Mig they have if it can’t take off.

“I’m… on… BREAK!” –USAF lead aviation technician Shaniqua

Varna says:

Germany was already like that a few years back.
https://topwar.ru/136123-welt-germanii-ne-hvataet-tankov-dlya-uchastiya-v-operaciyah-nato.html
Now with the Ukraine kerfuffle let’s see if they can snap back into some semblance of adequacy.
You never know. Perhaps the current “no, we’re too pacifist to really help” official sentiment serves to hide “we are currently so pathetic Poland can blitz us”.

Pax Imperialis says:

Been seeing a slow and constant trickle of research showing the mRNA vaccines were fairly bad. A recent study out of Stanford and UCLA found:

“The excess risk of serious adverse events of special interest surpassed the risk reduction for COVID-19 hospitalization relative to the placebo group in both Pfizer and Moderna trials”

Shouldn’t be surprising to anyone here.

I’ve also noticed there a dearth of information and research concerning the J&J vaccine. Anyone have an idea why?

If my premise if wrong about J&J getting little scrutiny can anyone point me to a source of information?

I have a suspicion that the adverse side effects of J&J were extremely rare and relatively minor when compared to the mRNA ones which is where there is no apparent interest in researching J&J.

Varna says:

I was thinking this yesterday as well.

Sputnik is also getting “increased scrutiny”:
https://www.chemistryworld.com/news/new-questions-raised-over-sputnik-covid-vaccine-results-point-to-fraudulent-practices/4015862.article

It will turn out I think like with the Olympics “doping scandals”, in the sense of the Russians doing their thing in the old-fashioned clumsy way, while the holy west does the same or worse but know how to present their data in a polished way.
However, go beyond the polish, and it will turn out that Sputnik’s twin Astra Zeneca is the same crap.

Sputnik at first had a “sputnik lite” version, which was the equivalent of the single-jab J&J. However later they stopped counting it as being “fully vaccinated”, and Sputnik Lite was now only officially good as a “booster”. Since January 2022 in Europe J&J also no longer counts as a “full vaccination” but only as a “booster”.

It may turn out that of all the clotshots the single dose ones Sputnik Lite and Janssen were the least lethal, at least when measuring one on one, without subsequent “boosts”. Hence them quickly losing status as “full vaccination”.

Whatever happened to the Novavax peptide bullshit (the third variation of the clotshot)? At the very start of everything Cuba and Russia both made peptide shots as well, and while Cuba vacced everybody to the hilt from school kids upward, Russia marketed their peptide shot EpiVac to old folks, due to the “negligible side effects”.

Then one whole family dropped dead after taking EpiVac.
https://74.ru/text/health/2021/08/03/70058363/
In the poultry producing Cossack town of 12K Starokorsunskaya
https://fb.ru/article/322178/stanitsa-starokorsunskaya-krasnodarskogo-kraya-opisanie-foto-istoriya-stanitsyi
And while the medical authorities did the whole amazing coincidence safe and effective shtick, it was quietly pulled from the market, leaving only Sputnik and the Russian dead virus trad vax KoviVak. The former being free for the pleb, and the latter being available for money, with connections.

Globalist Power Terminated II says:

It will turn out I think like with the Olympics “doping scandals”, in the sense of the Russians doing their thing in the old-fashioned clumsy way, while the holy west does the same or worse but know how to present their data in a polished way.

So that’s what that was all about? The red-pills just keep coming! 😂

Varna says:

If you paste “fancy bears doping” into a search engine, you’ll get a bunch of articles debunking and fact-checking hacked leaks (a KGB provocation natch) of western athletes taking pills and injections in order to treat their *conditions*, which without the doctor’s note would be banal doping.

Also how frequently the doping sample bottles get lost or suddenly break when convenient.

Ah, my sweet Valieva.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q47bOzfthf4
After they broke her psychologically I realized that to these people beauty and life are hellish torture to witness. If their strategies to achieve X allow them to crush some flower on the way, this only makes them happier.

Varna says:

Wrong Valieva link.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UToYts6wT0Q
That’s the one that raised my hair on end and gave me hope for humanity.

Of course, just a day later, the anti-humanity sprung into action.

notglowing says:

Link to this study?

Pax Imperialis says:

https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=4125239

“Funding Information: This study had no funding support.”

Which translates to, no institution wants to acknowledge the reality.

jim says:

Which also translates to “Any academic who notices reality will find himself short of funding, and shortly thereafter be working night shit in McDonalds.”

Behold: Scientific consensus.

Anonymous Fake says:

[*deleted because I have never found your reports of the right is saying remotely resembled reality, and I cannot be bothered to check yet another time.*]

Globalist Power Terminating II says:

“Always Fabricating” is back on his bullshit lmao.

Varna says:

Chechen news in English
https://grozny.tv/videos/37672
It’s mostly the dear leader being everywhere and doing everything, and honored visitors coming over the the Chechen republic.
The latter is one of the 80 constituent states of the Russian Federation, with a population of 1.5 million.

The man-woman dancing of the Chechens appears to be modelled on mating dances of birds.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbN6YFJw3cc&t=1375s
The man spreads his wings and pretends to try to corner the woman. Agility and virility is shown through bursts of jerky movements. The woman slowly floats along, sensually rotating her wrists, and either softly claps her hands or touches her heart to signify she’s done with the dance.
At minute 3 some woman stands up and you realize the Kardashians are a vulgarized far off reflection of the original fertile woman from the Caucasus region.

They are mountain folk so their archetypal totems are probably birds and haha, goats.

When you look at Chechen warriors gathered, you realize their names are Gimli, Balin, Durin, and so on.

Varna says:

At 26.40 on the Chechen wedding dance, Tom Bombadil’s wife goes out on the dance floor (in stilettos, natch), taking over from the previous epic cougar, and turns out to be a radiant finger-dance master. Depending on each minute shift in her overall body, her fingers also do some vril flow shit.

Her partner Gimli is a bit wooden at first, half the time insecurely doing body-communication with his bros, but she patiently draws him out until he lets go and in the end they approach the point where an instant from now they’ll be making out, and both simultaneously break it off, with a fleeting friendly pat on each other’s backs.

Kunning Drueger says:

Based and traditionpilled.

More and more, it becomes apparent that it is GAE shills seeking to attack the growing faith and fortitude of Russia that malign these simple mountain enjoyers.

Varna says:

I’d probably hang myself within a week if forced to live in a place like that, nor would I rejoice if my neighborhood began filling up with people from there.

However, had I been born and raised there, I too would probably enjoy all their stuff… Dance like a semi-paralytic eagle with palsy, get into brawls, then seek forgiveness from the imam, watch TV which is only about the dear leader, and view military expeditions into Europe (or anywhere really) as a jolly good adventure.

Can’t quite make up my mind. Are these mountain harkonen? Mountain fremen? Or just generic mountain vikings?

Frankly, I’d be pretty tense about having either of the three where I live. Unless, of course, there’s a civilizational collapse, global or local, and chaps like that are the only way of having some semblance of functioning law &order. Let’s hope such a choice never arises.

Kunning Drueger says:

In a different era, I’d be a missionary or expeditionary leader or something. I fell into the trap of venerating and idealizing the Foreign when I was a young suburban creature, but having passed through that phase, I’ve come to realize I enjoy being in but not of. I like being a contextual minority. So I’d love to live amongst the Chechens or the Serbs or the Tutsis. The Token Occidental.

Is “Hitler was a jew and recent studies prove it” a known shill script? Need advice as my blog is getting attention of late and I want to know how to counter.

Kunning Drueger says:

When in doubt, rub them out. You’re not libertarian, you are not called upon to create or maintain freeze peach. If it isn’t productive, delete it.

I wanted to maintain a light hand in moderation, but more importantly identify shill patterns before I delete stuff.

Kunning Drueger says:

Just my opinion, but you should focus on content and quality, not counterintelligence. Anyone saying Hitler was a Jew has only one goal in mind.

Dharmicreality says:

Here is the comment thread:
https://dharmicreality.wordpress.com/2022/06/23/dharmic-individualism-vs-atomic-isolation/comment-page-1/#comment-689

I don’t understand what he is driving at. Seems a bit off.

jim says:

It does not matter. He cheerfully accepts obviously unreliable sources of data at face value.

Such people are a problem, and needed to be chided, as I have chided Pooch, but they are not necessarily bad people with ulterior motives.

However the “Hitler is Jewish” argument is always pushed with hostile ulterior motives “Since you are an evil stupid person this argument might work on you, even though it would not work on me.”

This guy is, like Pooch, misinformed, and, unlike Pooch, hostile.

The Cominator says:

Well he REALLY might have been 1/4 Jewish and possibly a Rothschild at that… its not definite but not impossible.

Varna says:

By the end of the Middle Ages the sprawling Polish-Lithuanian commonwealth had absorbed almost all Jews of the larger region, being a place of peace, plenty, and tolerance, by then current standards.

BTW, apparently today Lithuania and Poland have been given some sort of green light to try and relive the past glory. First it was 80% them supporting the failed Belarus uprising, and now it’s Poland doing its best to somehow absorb or fuse with Western Ukraine. Lithuania was also the most vocal opponent of China last year, this year they are the most vocal opponent of Russia, threatening the Kaliningrad enclave and so on. Something’s up with Lithuania and Poland. Someone has been feeding their revanchist ambitions.

Anyway. When Russia on the east and the Germanic states on the west begun gradually eating up the Polish-Lithuanian commonwealth, they therefore begun getting not only new territories, but also new populations — Poles and Jews.

By the second half of the 19th century 5 million citizens of the Russian Empire, out of a total of 50 million, were Jews. That’s an incredible number. Many cities, including Odessa and Vienna, became predominantly Jewish.

By the early 20th century, the six gorillion lived mainly in a) the Austro-Hungarian empire, b) the Russian empire, and c) whenever Poland flickered into existence for a few seconds.

Hence also most of today’s US Jews in high places being from that same region — Eastern European grandparents and so on. Complete with the ancestral desire to see the local Slavs and if possible Germanics too massacre each other for the puppet master’s amusement.

At the time when Adolf’s generation was born and growing up, it is very likely that in towns and cities (not poor villages), everyone was one quarter Jew or one eighth Jew.

Later WWII happened, as well as voluntary and semi-voluntary emigration waves into America and Israel. This emptied out that region a bit from pureblood Jews. Now they’re in Israel and America. The classical Russian neighborhoods such as on Brighton Beach are Jewish neighborhoods. 30% of Israel speaks Russian. And so on.

This regional plummeting of the number of Jews in no way precluded the new Ukrainian govt being ultra-Jewish, but that’s for Anglin readers to pursue.

Any Russian (European part), Ukrainian, Belorussian, Pole, Austrian, Hungarian, Czech, or Slovak, especially if the stock is city folk going back to before WWII at least on the side of some great-grandma, is very likely to have some Jewish ancestry.

Additionally, South East Europe being part of the Ottoman Empire for 500 years, the internal imperial genetic drift seeded all sorts of surprises. Just like inside the Russian Empire, where you can never be certain if one’s great-grandparents aren’t Tatars, or Bashkirs, or Mordva, or what have you.

In Greece, Bulgaria, Macedonia, Serbia, Montenegro, Romania, you also never know if the Ottoman Imperial genetic drift didn’t seed your ancestral village or city neighborhood with Tatar or Jewish or Syrian or Egyptian blood. Or Turkish.

Had Hitler been born into the Russian Empire or the former Ottoman Empire lands, he would have been some sort of mixture of breeds with a 90% certainty. Within the Austro-Hungarian empire — at least 50% certainty. This is how sprawling continental political structures in the old world work.

Today’s Chinaman is also a mongrel, to which white’s are blind, but Koreans and Japs are not. Koreans and Japs are the “Scandinavians” in this sense, genetically, while China is genetically the equivalent of Austro-Hungary or Russia or Turkey.

I don’t see how any of this could make one become a fan of any historical world leader, or conversely stop being a fan of any historical world leader, unless one has a female approach to life based on emotional reactions and gossip. Or some purity-fetishist ultras like the Amerika.org guy.

jim says:

Quite possibly one quarter Jewish.

But the Rothschilds were funding the commies, until it blew up in their faces, and after 1930, sudden diminution in commie funding.

The Rothschild’s strategy was to use their depositors money to fund war, revolution, and subversion, and thus obtain power, and with this power, more control of more of other people’s savings. But Russia turned into a black hole that sucked money in and no money came out.

Classic case of evil consuming evil. And in 1930 the depositors started asking to see their money.

skippy says:

If you believe this study, he had a genetic marker that is found in Jews and in non-Jews. It increases the probability he had Jewish ancestry compared to if some other markers had been found, but does not prove it.

The Cominator says:

Hitler’s father was illegitimate and though she married a man who later claimed to be his “father” its doubtful. His paternal grandmother was a serving girl, there are rumors she was working in the Rothschild house at the time Alois Schiklgruber was conceived but the records seem to have been destroyed (which is perhaps the best argument for this story being true).

So did Hitler have jewish ancestry… maybe.

skippy says:

Maybe indeed.

A good argument for impregnating Jewish girls and raising them as Goys if you want to overcome this particular world-conspiracy.

On the other hand, neither Alois nor young Hitler showed any particular talent. If Hitler was the real deal, seems to be due to some special array of talents for politics in a chaotic state that didn’t lead to general success in life.

The Cominator says:

Hitler was a good speaker as far as Germans percieved good speakers, he was also helped out extensively for whatever reason by Dietrich Eckhart and the Thule society, Wagner’s Family and then by Von Papen (a Jesuit).

He was a good speaker but he got into power because he was sponsored by powerful forces…

jim says:

Nah. He was opposed, not supported, by powerful forces.

The Wiemar elite was failing dismally, and as result could not maintain the semblance of democratic legitimacy. To maintain the appearance of democratic legitimacy, Papen, leader of what would now call the cuckservatives, cut a deal with less terrifying faction of the radical left, the Nazis. The deal was that the Nazis would provide the votes, and old elite retain the power, while giving Hitler the purely nominal appearance of power.

The error in this deal was that the Wiemar elite had long been using illegitimate state and quasi state violence against its opponents, and Hitler was an old hand at that. With the boot of the state off his men’s backs, and ample precedent provided by the Weimar elite, he applied state and quasi state violence against the elite itself.

At the last minute, Papen went looking for a deal with the Christian right and the reactionary right, but it was too late, and he was the wrong man, having betrayed everyone.

The Cominator says:

Papen is one of the most sinister figures of the 20th century and a Jesuit.
Given who Papens real allegiances and real master was (he walked out of Nuremberg scot free… and he had a hand in getting the US into WW1 as well)… Maybe he knew it would workout that way…

jim says:

Finding he could not be the leader of the left when the leader of the (less insane) radical left was Hitler, a man who was disinclined to be a well paid puppet, Papen attempted to get the good guys together under his leadership. They did not come, probably because on past form, had they been successful, would have been hexduple crossed (they had already been doublecrossed and quadruple crossed, Papen’s alliance with Hitler being the quadruple cross, and his speech attempting to rally the right, the Christian right, and the reactionary right against the radical left being the quintuple cross).

skipper says:

Papen tried to cuck Hitler and Hitler defeated him but let him be ambassador to Turkey rather than killing him because he was at least a gentleman about it.

He had von Schleicher killed.

Hitler was sponsored by a piano factory mostly. Eckart was himself considered a weirdo. Wagner and his family had already sponsored Houston Stuart Chamberlain who was even more anti-Semitic than Hitler.

Try to find Hitler’s inaugural Reichstag speech and tell me it doesn’t remind you of today. Specifically, isn’t it what everyone wished Trump had said, instead of what he did?

Ghost says:

Moderate with extreme prejudice. Just out of curiosity why would a Hindu care if small mustache man was Jewish?

Dharmicreality says:

Thanks. I didn’t bring up the topic of Hitler ancestry. Seems like the commenter claims to be a christian. Seemed suspicious as to why somebody would want to push such a script on my insignificant blog.

jim says:

Maybe he is a normie pushing a dumbass criticism of Hitler that he thinks will work on evil racists. Nobody cares if Hitler was x% Jewish.

Like a shill he is not arguing in good faith, but rather “this argument would not work on me, being a good and smart person, but it should work on you because you are an evil stupid moron”.

Same tone as the shill scripts, but seldom done for pay.

That must be it. Something seemed off about his “hail fellow right-wing Indian.”

I am also getting uncomfortable with wordpress.com.

Severian says:

Multiple Russian sources saying Russia captured the Lisichansk Oil refinery.
If so Lisichansk is effecityvely lost to the Ukes.

https://mobile.twitter.com/GeromanAT/status/1542222132138090498/photo/1

Battles for Soledar and Bakhmut should be next.

jim says:

These are small victories which cannot resolve the war. But, since the Ukrainians were deploying trenches, after the fashion of World War I attritive warfare, they are indicative of huge casualties.

The big advantage of placing your men in trenches is that they are handy dandy mass graves: when the fighting starts, the troops are unable to run away, and they will thus soak up a huge amount of artillery shells.

The real idea of attritive warfare was to attrit the enemy’s supply of shells.

That the Russians are advancing is a small change in the war. However, that the Russians are advancing indicates that the Ukrainians ran out men before the Russians ran out of shells. However, in the Information Epoch, grunts do not soak up nearly as many artillery shells as they did in World War I.

Severian says:

I think you’re right. If you look at the whole picture most of the front lines have been static since the Donbass offensive begun. Small changes here and there.
I guess the Russians may hope attrition will finally allow for a major breakthrough eventually, but I’m not making any prediction.

Meanwhile Russians abandoned Snake Island.

Neurotoxin says:

The thread with Pooch about whether merchants and priests are the same people is getting too long.

(Also too stupid.)

All this modern race/gender/sexual preference stuff started in academia, not in businesses. The cause-effect flow here is VERY clear. In the 1990s this crap was everywhere in the universities and nowhere in the business world. It’s extremely clear who is bossing whom around here.

Actually there was an exception in business: “Affirmative action” based on race and sex… but that’s because it was legally mandated.

Adam says:

What about things like inflation? It’s obviously a product of entropy, but isn’t the money supply a merchant issue? Doesn’t entropy/leftism act on the merchant, warrior and priest alike?

Obviously global progressive homosexualism is a product of priests. Merchants don’t think like social workers, priests do.

Ghost says:

Priests continue to invent new and insane sacramental hoops for merchants and citizenry and King to leap through or they will be unpersoned and bankrupted. They capitulate to falsehood. Solders enforce the Kings will without prejudice.

Neurotoxin says:

Inflation getting out of hand long pre-dates identity politics. They don’t have anything to do with each other.

Vlad says:

It’s absurd to insist all the capital and tech of the west was defeated by some cat lady college professors [*much seen commie rant deleted*]

jim says:

The wealth and tech of the west was not defeated by some commie cat ladies because businessmen never had any power to begin with.

You argument presupposes that at some time capital ruled, that we totally agree it used to rule but strangely claim that now it does not, presupposes that everyone, including us, agrees with the self evident and undeniable truth of Marxist history – argument from fake consensus, which method of argument is forbidden on this blog and will always be censored.

Normies are generally deluded about who rules, but they do not believe that capitalists have ever ruled. Your presupposition is not consensus, and never has been.

Money is not power. Power is power. Those who have power do not need money, they just reach out their hand, and whatever they want is given to them. Capitalists and capitalism has existed since men first grew grain and herded cattle, and capitalists have never had power and never will have power.

We are always ruled by priests or warriors, or something of both. Always have been, always will be.

“Capital” is derived from the word for cattle. It meant “head of cattle”, because you count a herd by their heads. You think cattle are power?

No, swords are power, and words can sometimes manage to control swords. Cattle?

The Cominator says:
Vlad says:

I’m certainly no commie not even a little. I’m also no longer a “capitalist” [*third positionist script deleted*]

jim says:

Your script is old and moldy. We have been seeing it ever since Franco, Hitler, and Mussolini purged the radical fascist left, and Stalin created the third positionist movement to shill against and engage in entryism against then actually existent fascism.

It is certainly true that “capitalism is not serving us well” now, with gas prices going up from a dollar thirty to seven dollars, groceries, housing and rents following in the wake of gas while wages creep upwards at miniscule rates, with Gillete demanding that its customer base emasculate themselves, and Disney plotting to cut of your sons dicks and your daughters boobs, and sodomize your sons and daughters.

But our diagnosis of what is causing that problem is very similar to that of Trump, DeSantis, the Make America Great Again movement, and the Christian Nationalist right – pretty similar to that of the entire right, except for shills, though our proposed solutions considerably more radical than most.

This diagnosis is the opposite of your diagnosis.

Your diagnosis is very different. I would be happy to debate your diagnosis if discussed in within a frame that there were a considerable number of people on the right, from mainstream cuckservative politicians to bomb throwing radicals, who have the opposite diagnosis. rather than the frame that everyone, left and right, accepts your diagnosis but is corruptly reluctant to apply the obvious solution: Socialism.

ten says:

The priest caste uses words, the warrior caste uses swords, the worker caste uses stuff.

A high merchant is probably rarely in contact with the stuff that changes hands, but only with the words representing and coordinating the changing of hands, so the business of the high merchant sort of resembles the business of the priest.

But the business of the high merchant can be traced to boxes of stuff, the leaf nodes in his influence graph are material boxes, while the leaf nodes of the priestly graph are people.

jim says:

> A high merchant is probably rarely in contact with the stuff that changes hands.

Musk is very much in contact with it, but as a rule you are correct. The high merchant relies on representations of stuff constructed by bookkeepers. The firm came into being as an entity imagined into reality by bookkeepers. Thus accounting represents an attack vector for the priesthood to control the merchants.

What Pooch and co sees is merchants giving priests money and thinks the merchants are funding them.

But such “funding” is actually in the nature of a tithe to the ruling Lord. Doesn’t buy influence, only reiterates their subordinate status in the hierarchy.

ten says:

Exactly – and this is sufficiently obvious that whig history normies usually go silent and look a little confused for a while when it is pointed out.

Dharmicreality says:
Pooch says:

Tell it to Oliver Cromwell. It is obvious what class he represented.

jim says:

What class was that?

Explain and justify.

It was a religious war, high Church versus low church, priests versus aristocrats.

Started of with riots against the King’s authority to appoint bishops, which was provoked by his propensity to appoint high Church Bishops.

The monarchic settlement of the restoration was all about religious issues, not economic issues. The deal was toleration. State and quasi state entities would be exclusively run by those of the state religion who adhered to the Kings Bishops, but all other faiths would be tolerated.

No one talked about economic issues, except the post Christian far left of Puritanism, whom Cromwell crushed. Economic issues did not come into the picture until 1832. Until 1832 the conflict was Socinians passing as Christians versus old type Christians, and then the holiness spiral in the post Christian left resulted in the economic issues raised by the post Christian descendants of the Puritan Christian heresy that Cromwell crushed arising again.

Until 1832 everyone would have looked at you funny if you started talking about Marx’s economic classes. It just was not on their radar.

Pooch says:

Let’s take a deep look at the family and background of Oliver Cromwell before the English Civil Wars.

Cromwell was born into the landed gentry with a family estate derived from Oliver’s great-great-grandfather Morgan ap William, brewer and merchant who married Katherine Cromwell, the sister of Thomas Cromwell, would become the famous chief minister to Henry VIII. The Cromwells acquired great wealth as occasional beneficiaries of Thomas’s administration of the Dissolution of the Monasteries.

Cromwell’s paternal grandfather Sir Henry Williams was one of the two wealthiest landowners in Huntingdonshire. Cromwell’s father, being the younger son with many siblings, was of modest means but still a member of the landed gentry inheriting a house and a small amount of land.

Oliver Cromwell married Elizabeth Bourchier. Elizabeth’s father, Sir James Bourchier, was a London leather merchant who owned extensive lands in Essex and had strong connections with Puritan gentry families. The marriage brought Cromwell into contact with Oliver St John and leading members of London’s merchant community.

In 1631, Oliver had become involved in some sort of dispute among the gentry of Huntingdon. As a result, he sold most of his properties in Huntingdon, and moved too a farmstead in nearby St. Ives. This move, a significant step down in society for the Cromwells, also had significant emotional and spiritual impact on Cromwell. Cromwell had kept a smallholding of chickens and sheep, selling eggs and wool to support himself, his lifestyle resembling that of a yeoman farmer.

In 1636 Cromwell inherited control of various properties in Ely from his uncle on his mother’s side, and his uncle’s job as tithe collector for Ely Cathedral. By the end of the 1630s, Cromwell had returned to the ranks of acknowledged gentry. He had become a committed Puritan and had established important family links to leading merchant families in London and Essex.

When Oliver became a Member of Parliment, Cromwell was strongly linked to these godly families of merchant aristocrats in the House of Lords and House of Commons with whom he had established familial and religious links in the 1630s, such as the Earls of Essex, Warwick and Bedford, Oliver St John and Viscount Saye and Sele.

It becomes clear after studying Oliver’s background, although he was not a particularly successful merchant himself, he was representative of a rising Puritan merchant class.

It was this rising Puritan merchantile priestly elite in conjunction that overthrew the rule of the old landed aristocratic warrior class of the British kings.

Why was the merchant class rising? We have to look back to the Dissolution of the Monasteries.

When Henry VIII confiscated the property of the Catholic Church in Britain, there was a church in every village and practically every street corner. They were almost all economically independent. It wasn’t just that they were tithing, they also had their own businesses. They had wineries, farms, and made clothing. They produce books and bibles, the painstaking process before the printing press.

The monasteries which were attached as part of these Catholic properties were economically productive. There was a large amount of land that was owned by the Catholic Church and it was not allowed to be bought and sold.

When Henry VIII confiscated all the church property, he then sold that church property to the highest bidder. There were for the first time people who didn’t own land who were not nobility (because nobility was defined by a landowner. You could not be nobility without having land and if you had land that ennobled you.) who now had the opportunity to become landed.

These people who had been merchants (shoemakers, traders, goldsmiths, jewelers, etc) who had not been part of the nobility were able to buy land at this point and that created the underlying socio-economic forces that are ultimately behind the English Civil War.

The rise of a merchant class is adjacent to a shifting priest class, that’s no longer moored in Catholicism, that’s now Protestant, Presbyterian, Puritan. All of these forces are allying with the merchant class and saying “The king doesn’t have the right to rule. It’s the people who rule and the king is a servant of the people”

jim says:

As you said, landed was noble and noble was landed.

The landed gentry were politically dominant all the way to the nineteenth century, with nothing dramatic happening in in sixteen hundred. A successful merchant acquired land, and successful merchants had been industriously doing that and marrying into longer established, but frequently poorer, nobility, for many centuries.

Around eleven hundred, twelve hundred, landed was the man with terrible swift sword, and training from earliest child hood in using it, which lifelong very hard training was apt to develop extremely powerful muscles. As for example William the Marshall who acquired that land with his own sword from the back of his own horse.

From, however, twelve hundred to eighteen hundred, land was more the real estate developer, tenant manager. As for example William the Marshall, who was apt sell land, exchange land, and to lease out land on very long term leases that required the holder of the lease to develop the land, and gave tenant considerable rights that could not be arbitrarily changed, making the tenant a little bit, or quite a large bit, landed and noble.

So locating a “rising merchant class” on the basis of land ownership changes at a particular date is late nineteenth century invention. William the Marshal did the transition seamlessly around the year of our lord twelve hundred, and, as he went merchant, he enabled a whole lot of merchants to go noble. Every major transition of power and innumerable minor transitions of power that nobody now remembers involved a lot of land changing hands, and a lot of that land being sold, with a lot of people thus becoming noble/landed. And the whole time, a whole lot of land was being bought and sold on the basis of entirely private matters with no political significance.

Yes, Cromwell and company had no end of merchant connections. And the children and grandchildren of William the Marshal also had no end of merchant connections. That transition happened about in about eleventh century of our Lord. And the rise of the urban merchant elite in the nineteenth century of our lord. Nothing very unusual happened in the role of the merchant class in the seventeenth century of our lord.

Pooch says:

You mention land changing hands from warrior to warrior. Quite common during the feudal periods.

I am not seeing any evidence of merchants owning land of any significance before the Dissolution of the Monasteries, an event that put an enormous amount of land on the market for purchase by an unlanded merchant class. An event that the Cromwells personally benefited immensely from.

jim says:

> You mention land changing hands from warrior to warrior.

Warrior to warrior land ownership changes do not involve money. But a fully equipped warrior was extremely expensive, so … William the Marshall’s real estate development business, managed substantially by his wife.

Warriors need money. Merchants have money. But, before you can shake down merchants, they have to come to you, so … william the Marshall’s real estate business, in which a great many non warriors acquired land, and thus, eventually nobility.

From the eleventh century of our lord onwards, considerably more acquisition of land for money, and considerably less acquisition of land at swordpoint. So merchant and nobility interwoven from the eleventh century onwards. Nothing out of the ordinary about Cromwell’s family and connections.

jim says:

> I am not seeing …

What you refuse to see.

And you persistently see things that other people do not see, such as US military might.

You are projecting the full on feudalism of the tenth century, when ownership of land depended very directly on one’s personal ability to ride a horse and wield a sword, all the way up to whatever political events your professor wants to explain in Marxist terms.

And likely when describing the radical changes in the nineteenth century, your professor would give the same explanation, only this time projecting tenth century feudalism all the way into the nineteenth century. And, as the twentieth century fades out of memory, into the twentieth century.

You persistently and confidently rely on highly unreliable sources. It is very irritating.

Pooch says:

Not seeing William the Marshal as part of any merchant class. He was a soldier, a knight, and of the warrior elite who ruled.

jim says:

William the Marshal, under the King, ruled the lands he acquired with his sword, no such thing as a ruling class at that time, and for many centuries thereafter. He ruled what he had, and other nobles ruled what they had.

And he then went into the real estate development business, a very merchant business, in the process granting land and rights, and thus in due course nobility, to a whole lot of merchants.

The Cominator says:

Thomas Cromwell benefitted because he was basically Henry VIIIs prime minister (until he was executed one of the few executions Henry VIII openly regretted which maybe explains why his family kept some of the land) and not a warrior ie he was archetypically a priest he was originally on Woolseys staff (though he was always a secret Protestant).

Oliver Cromwell was a non military gentry outside of government I guess he was sort of a merchant but when he entered government he quickly became a warrior.

The Cominator says:

I think broadly speaking during William the Marshals time legitimate descendents of the Norman’s were ruling class and others were not.

Pooch says:

land and rights, and thus in due course nobility, to a whole lot of merchants.

Name one. Your lack of evidence is annoying and your persistence and confident insistence to proclaim historical things as fact without evidence or sources is irritating. Your persistence and insistence to assign a position of Marxism to me, even more annoying. Good day.

Aidan says:

Pooch, finance was invented by duke Robert of Normandy, turning land leases and associated rights into financial instruments in order to raise the money to wage war. Medieval law already treated with legal entities, the predecessor to corporations, and the art of finance trickled down from the noble class to the merchant class. There was a healthy market by 1300 for what we would today call political rights, but it was just contract law, where individuals and abstract legal entities would buy, sell, and trade rights and interests for cash. Including, of course, land. From the eleventh century onward, the serf became a tenant, granted substantial rights over his land in exchange for paying in cash rather than service. And oftentimes, one could pay the cash up front and just get the land; most medieval cities were generally self-governed, having raised the cash to just buy out the lord who originally owned them.

jim says:

The anarchy of tenth century feudalism severely inhibited capitalism. Which impeded the ability of warriors to fund themselves and their retainers.

Since the Marxists want to interpret capitalism as a ruling class, and capitalism as new, they interpret that forward to each and every political event they want to interpret as class conflict with capitalists, all the way to the nineteenth century. Coming up soon, all the way forward to the twentieth century.

In the tenth century, feudalism was rule by men equipped with expensive weapons, very physically strong men, extraordinarily strong men, trained from childhood in use of those weapons.

From the eleventh century to the eighteenth, rule by a martial and thoroughly capitalist landed gentry. William the Marshal acquired land with his own sword, but found he was mighty short on the social and institutional means for obtaining value from that land. So …

Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

In more civilized times, there was not so much of a distinction between aristoia and pecuniousness, there were simply ‘prominent men’. Men with authority in a community, and men with value-producing affairs in the community, were often the same men. The idea that men with authority should also be impecunious is one of the oldest tactics of leftist attack against a existing power-structure.

Neurotoxin says:

Biden just announced the US military is going to put a new military base in Poland, the first US base there.

And NATO is dialing up its fast-response forces from 40,000 to 300,000.

And more.

Via VD; the original link is
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10965319/NATOs-new-Iron-Curtain-alliance-commits-extra-troops-Madrid-summit.html

Fireball says:

I am loving the way this is escalating.

Do the russians have any nukes pointed to Lisbon?

Kunning Drueger says:

I predict that once the pivot to EEurope is to a point where stopping or changing direction is impossible, China will take the next escalatory step on Taiwan. The actual NATO bulking could take a year or more, so look for Russia to do something to speed it up, something that gets the NATO countries frantic. They will then rush troops and equipment into the theater, increasing the disarray and chaos. Once it’s clear the US is all in on Fortress Europe, China will move.

China has already knocked out one US administration, and I bet they will try to do it again. Destroying any kind of consistency in the Core GAE is in their interests.

So I guess I’m reaffirming my prior position: Russia is not being reactive or emotional. The broad outline is known, though the actual steps are not. Ukraine is the distraction, the rabbit is the implosion of GAE, and the hat is the military/marketplace/culture.

why lord why says:

You are nearly this stupid in every post you make. At least you’re consistent.

Europe is a ground war. Taiwan is a naval war. Not the same personnel, not the same equipment, some of the same munitions. Very little overlap. Certainly not enough to affect operations in either theater for the first two weeks, which is what will be critical for Taiwan.

China can plausibly decide to let the US be distracted by Russia if it looks like Russia is capable of doing the distracting. Right now, Russia is fully occupied by a third-rate corrupt shithole of a former Soviet republic that everybody expected would collapse within two weeks, with no prospect of meaningful progress anywhere on the horizon. If you think the Chinese leadership considers this a good side bet, you are even stupider than you look.

jim says:

American naval capability is likely dead in the water within six hundred kilometers of the Chinese mainland or any of the fortified islands that China has been constructing in the South China sea.

Those islands are unsinkable aircraft carriers, built for a future war in which they expect that floating aircraft carries will have a very short life expectancy.

The problem for America is that a two front war is likely to get out of hand, each front exacerbating the other. It is not that Ukraine is utilizing resources needed to defend Taiwan, it is that wars are apt to escalate, and getting into a two front war can lead to unforeseen outcomes.

Kunning Druegger says:

I further assert our resident Fed peeping tom is either former military or his wife’s boyfriend is a vet. He always pops up when we portray the USM as being incapable or incompetent.

Kunning Druegger says:

I hate to samefag a b8poast, but it is interesting to see the hubris or ignorance on display. The movie forces are all different (stunningly different!): navy seal, 75th ranger battalion, SOG, regular infantry divisions, various naval taskforces, the floating bases, the carrier groups, air wings of so many flavors! Why, the US military is a global force for good, some faggot once told me! I bet they could fight a 2 front war, just like we did in dubya dubya too! You know, the one where the world was made safe for sodomy! And the reserves! And the guard! And the national guard reserve! You know, I bet the USM could fight every nation on earth and be done and victorious by Christmas! We could gin up a propaganda campaign on that idea alone!

…but the logistics are, hmmm… the logistics. Look, I’m not saying we wouldn’t win, we always do. I’m not saying we aren’t up to the task, because we fucking are you commie faggots. It’s just that… well… 80% of the total lift capacity for Desert Storm and Desert Shield was civilian contracted, inclusive of air and sea. And that was before BRAC or any of the other wonderful and not in any way destructive things the Clinton Whitehouse did while we still had the Cold War USM largely intact…

…but no, that’s just defeatist monarchical lies spooging out. We’re fucking America, we don’t know how to lose! And if Iraq II, Afghanistan, GWoT, and countless digital wargames have taught us anything, it’s that the USM is ready to rip roar rape any enemy that dares to defy us.

Our military is strong, resilient, loyal, unified, and maximally trained!

Our equipment is the absolute best, well maintained, thoroughly tested, and competently wielded!

Our generals are lean, mean, fighting machines!

Our esprit de corps is higher than ever!

Our martial track record in unimpeachable!

Our populace is supportive, generous, and tough!

Our politicians are wise and unified!

Our institutions are healthy and formidable!

Our industry is efficient, distributed, and robust!

I am 100% certain that, should the impossible happen and all these things somehow not carry us to victory, our vast arsenal of nuclear weapons will see us through any possible situation.

Yessir, Mr. Putin better mind his Ps and Qs. America is rough, tough, and ready to tussle on as many continents as God is willing to give us. Mr. Xi should just pack it up and head on home. The American Military is out there, just waiting to show the whole world exactly what it is capable of, and I for one am proud, humbled, and grateful for our army of trailer trash, niggers, spics, trannies, and frontholes nobly and honorably waiting for welfare checks and that sweet, sweet Home Depot discount.

Ghost says:

Funny you should mention that. I was just somewhere today. Saw a Major in a flight suit sporting a beard, a “female” with a face like a gent, and four effeminate mechanics.

Kunning Drueger says:

Patriots every one too, I’d bet! Loyal, honest, strong, capable, and dangerous! Why, if they were to jump in a DARPA time machine (you know they have them, the Deep Stork is always 30 years ahead of the movies!), they’d beat the Nazis in a day, then teach ol’ Tojo a thing or too! Yessireebob, there’s nothing like a US military. Ready and steady and standing tall. Sometimes, when I see a flag, I like to think about just how simple it is to provision 130 men with foodstuffs and ammunition while cut off from civilian contractors under a drone net and on call artillery that’s fully integrated and battle tested against a “third rate corrupted shithole.” I just relish in all the meaningful progress American military will enjoy.

Seriously, how does that faggot keep breathing. I don’t know which is funnier, the 42%trannie correction rate, or US military vets thinking their 5 minutes of service matter.

Ghost says:

You’re starting to sound like AA. Do we have a celebrity in our midst?

Ghost says:

It’s not the same military from 30 years ago. Clinton allowed sodomites to join and cut the budget and closed many installations. Obama opened the door to trannies, cut the budget more. Some installations didn’t even mow their grass. Now Biden with more of the same and abortions too.

Before these three, the officer corps was strongly conservative and liberals kept their mouths shut.

The Navy though, they’ve always been a little odd. They’ve got these rituals (not supposed to talk about, but I will) when they cross the equator on ship, you have woggs and shellbacks. They do some weird party. I’ve said to much.

Kunning Druegger says:

Countless fiction novels have dropped the dime on hella-gay navy antics. Ship-boos are only women half the time lmao. The USMC calls itself the men’s department of the navy, which would be funny if the jarheads didn’t then proceed to topping them for Moloch and open bordered urban housing agglomerate.

Neurotoxin says:

“I predict that once the pivot to EEurope is to a point where stopping or changing direction is impossible, China will take the next escalatory step on Taiwan.”

That would be fantastic for us, from a point of view of forcing the GAE to either back down, or to try to keep going when it has bitten off waaaaay more than it can chew. For some reason I’m flashing on an image of a python that’s trying to eat a goat that’s just to big for it, and forced to disgorge it.

Also, if voting matters at all any more (I know, I know) the political effects of the Dems getting involved in a war with China and Russia simultaneously would be wonderful.

The Cominator says:

“Also, if voting matters at all any more (I know, I know) the political effects of the Dems getting involved in a war with China and Russia simultaneously would be wonderful.”

You sound as mad as they are, and I’m the guy who says we need to wipe them out down to their voters. We’re hated by almost everyone at this point often for good reason… such a war likely ends in our annihilation.

Kunning Druegger says:

Or, you know, just regime change lol.

The Cominator says:

Holy wars are often fought without mercy…

jim says:

I have often remarked that I am as far from power as I can get without treading water. If nuclear holy war gets under way, it might well be time to tread water.

The Cominator says:

I think Thailand will be safe.

Ghost says:

Thailand safe? There are many Thais here in America and Thailand wants to be friendly with both US and China. Hard to say if they’re safe.

I’m staying on my hill right here until I die. I wonder about the danger to come and in some ways want to test myself to see what I am capable of. I’d rather not have safety in a world of corruption. But, one man can do little.

Neurotoxin says:

“You sound as mad as they are…”

Maybe I’m thinking from a position of normalcy bias, but I guess I was just assuming that if things got really hot with China and Russia at the same time, our military would just run some bombers over the White House and take Biden out. Biden’s not in charge, obvs, but his puppetmasters would be disempowered if their puppet were gone. More realistically, I have a feeling the 25th Amendment would be invoked before it got to the point of China nuking us. Though war is always a fast-moving situation, which is why Wash DC shouldn’t be playing this provocation game in the first place.

What the hell, I don’t live in NYC, LA, etc. Let’s play global thermonuclear war!

i says:

Okay what’s the deal with Jordan Peterson(who supposedly converted to Christianity) interviewing a Sodomite “parent”?:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75uuWtRrnJI

The push to accept “Gay Conservatives” including “parenthood” looks like a Camel’s nose in the tent to normalize Sodomites.

ten says:

He believes in civilized discussion with the opponent. I don’t necessarily think there is value to it and i don’t care enough to watch the elderly crybaby babble for an hour, but what’s the problem? Isn’t that camel already fully in the tent? Not in our tent, but we are not in Peterson’s tent.

Redbible says:

Jordan Peterson has always been controlled opposition, even if it took some time for the finer details that prove that to come to light.

So him promoting gays would ultimately be par for the course.

Varna says:

He got the ban hammer on twatter the other day and is now Shapiro’s dailywire.

Red says:

He got the ban hammer because it was a publicity stunt for his move to the dailywire. The cathedral noticed that their controlled opposition system has been failing for a while, so Ben Shapiro is building them a new one.

Globalist Power Terminated II says:

😳 😂 🤣 💀 ☠️

Red says:

You’re a moron.

Globalist Power Terminated II says:

ya mom’s a H0E

Kunning Druegger says:

OK, I am going to defend JBP for the purposes of discussion, but I am not saying you’re wrong in an evil or bad sense, merely technical. He has far too much enemy payload to be /ourguy/, but he is undeniably a gateway to better and best things, this place being one of them.

He has an enormous back catalog of recorded lectures, essays, and literature. The classes I have viewed have a substantial amount of thoughtcrime, or maybe more accurately hints at thottcrime. Many on the New Right/Dissident Right reference him directly in regards to their path to and through the Redpill. If he’s controlled opposition, when did it start, and why do they keep him around if he keeps channeling young, white men towards the Truth? Please refrain from “he’s not holy enough” arguments, as they are known and accounted for. No one is perfect, and few are effective. He is effective, and he has done substantial damage to the credibility of the Cathedral (specifically on the troon issue but not exclusively) as well as shifted the Overton window rightward, or maybe expanded the right side of it, which is not insubstantial in and of itself.

To assert correctly that JBP is controlled opposition, I think you’d have to demonstrate how his efforts and offerings weaken the Right in general, and the true Redpill in particular.

Apologies to reiterate, but this is technical; I am in no way stating that he’s on our side.

Red says:

To assert correctly that JBP is controlled opposition, I think you’d have to demonstrate how his efforts and offerings weaken the Right in general, and the true Redpill in particular.

He’s a Harvard socialist who suddenly started taking concepts from the reactionary right, chopping out the useful bits and then making millions selling them to the wider public in a form that’s unlikely to produce real opposition.

Telling young men to clean their rooms instead of acting manly is classic controlled opposition instruction, much the like the Cuckservitive mantra of losing with dignity.

From July 1993 to June 1998,[33] Peterson lived in Arlington, Massachusetts, while teaching and conducting research at Harvard University, where he was hired as an assistant professor in the psychology department, later becoming an associate professor. During his time at Harvard, he studied aggression arising from drug and alcohol abuse.[30] An article in The Harvard Crimson said he possessed a “willingness to take on any research project, no matter how unconventional”.[25] While at Harvard, he switched his primary area of research from familial alcoholism to personality and authored several academic papers.[34][35][36][37][38][39] Author Gregg Hurwitz, a former student of Peterson’s at Harvard, has cited Peterson as an inspiration of his, and psychologist Shelley Carson, former PhD student and now-professor at Harvard, recalled that Peterson’s lectures had “something akin to a cult following”, stating, “I remember students crying on the last day of class because they wouldn’t get to hear him anymore.”[6] Following his associate position at Harvard, Peterson returned to Canada in July 1998 and eventually became a full professor at the University of Toronto.[28][33][40]

Kunning Druegger says:

Here’s the problem with the purity spiraling on our side: our heavy discourse and long years of analysis and dialogue have made it impossible for elites to convert and change sides. We know fundamentally that the masses don’t matter, but we’ve made a system wherein the only way to be a good reactionary is to join up before making classic mistakes, or to be so thoroughly sheltered from the fallen and broken world that by dint of out-of-touchedness one is unsullied by the Polygon. Do you see how this means we will only every have unity of purpose and loyalty under The Perfect Man? I’m not saying JBP is the best option for leading the forces of Reaction in the Occident, but consider how we as a sphere would respond if he put out a vlog of himself at an undisclosed location, wearing tactical gear while holding a Bible and a C-8 carbine, and saying “It’s time to put up or shut up, bucko. We’re going to make the West safe for Monarchy.” We’d point, sputter, and babble about all the many little reasons JBP is not /ourguy/ enough, I think.

Obviously, he doesn’t seem like the type to call out the Man Militia and restore Patriarchy to the server of our MMO/RPG. But if/when that does happen, it will most likely be someone with a checkered past of Cathedral Compliance.

To reiterate: what has JBP done in Normie Space that has weakened our position?

jim says:

> We’d point, sputter, and babble about all the many little reasons JBP is not /ourguy/ enough, I think

Nuts.

If he converts, great. We will say so. But he is not our guy. He is controlled opposition, has been operating as controlled opposition all this time, and is unlikely to change. He is not our guy. He is unlikely to become our guy.

Should the time come when we choose Caesar, as Samuel chose Saul, rather than Caesar choosing us, as Constantine chose Christianity, we will likely choose a Caesar from officers of the private military companies.

Kunning Druegger says:

OK, I buy that. As I said, I don’t think he’s a likely candidate for Caesar. And I am not saying he’s our guy. But he does have the precursors assembled for an army, whether he meant to do that or not. I’m still not seeing how he’s controlled opposition because I don’t see how what he’s done/is doing detracts from the gradual and quiet shift rightward of the thinking American white male. His message and info campaign is driving people toward this blog, and the Hard Right in general. So if he is controlled opposition, he’s doing terribly.

Same vein of the topic, while I agree that a PMC type is a likely possible source for leadership, I think the categories for possible source are actually quite wide, wider than we theorize anyways. It’s more about memetic sovereignty than it is about traditional leadership phenotype, right?

jim says:

> I’m still not seeing how he’s controlled opposition

“clean your room”

Peterson dances near important truths without actually going there, and then delivers lies. In delivering lies, he is working for the enemy.

The Cominator says:

I sort of agree with KD, Peterson is certainly not pure redpill but I’ve never seen someone who started following Peterson becoming less redpilled… I don’t know of one case… he is more like a gateway redpill.

jim says:

Jordan Peterson’s health troubles were a personal experience of western technological decline, of which he is painfully aware, but will not speak.

His most recent podcast “Russia, Ukraine, and the West” was completely in the frame that Russia is attacking the west, and fails to notice imperial expansion. It is an absolute barefaced lie.

Putin “intends at a minimum to” …

Which intentions make no sense whatsoever in except as shear crazy evil, without the context that Global American imperial expansion has been underway in the conflict zone for eight years and intends to head all the way to Moscow, make no sense without the context that US is sponsoring color revolutions all over the world, and has started another in the last few days on the borders of Russia.

It is history as nonsense, world events that make no sense, just as in Niiiidriveevof’s account of reality, the sack of Rome by the Holy Roman Emperor and the resulting counter reformation make no sense, they are just meaningless things that just happened arbitrarily without causes or consequences.

It is a stupid lie, an evil lie, that makes the liar stupid, a lie intended to harm the audience by making them stupid and ignorant, presenting a world that makes no sense because the lie makes no sense. The lie takes away the causes and the consequences, creating a world of random meaningless incoherent events. In his universe the sack of Rome by the Holy Roman emperor was an unfortunate accident of war without causes or consequences.

Kunning Drueger says:

I disagree, but I am also unable to counter without appeals to authority or emotional sidetracking, so let’s wait and see where things go. In a recent piece, Anglin floated the idea of how incredibly based and interesting it would be if Marilyn Manson converted to Christianity and became a pop anti-hero for this age. With no evidence at all, I think we’re going to see some very interesting and unexpected conversions as we hurtle ever faster towards oblivion.

It also just occurred to me that my inability to see JBP as controlled opposition could be a function of my IQ. Without the proper tools and capabilities, some things are just invisible to some people.

Red says:

KD did you read JP book? It came out around the time the alt right was getting going and I thought some reactionary thinking was hitting the mainstreaming. Instead I got a book of lies and half truths.

The left co-opts real opposition by moving people like JP into them, putting up some limited opposition them(people calling JP a nazi) and then neutralizes any attempt at building real opposition by sucking up energy into them. See 1/3 of the Republican senators recently voting for gun control for a prime example of how this works. JP joining Little Ben’s controlled opposition media group was just icing on the cake with JP.

I never purity spiral claiming that I do is straight up slander. I hate is liars and charlatans. I grew up in an evangelical christian family that lurched from one group of controlled opposition Christians to another. I got very adapt spotting this sort of bullshit.

Com’s right that some people can read controlled opposition stuff and then move onto the red pill, but I note that we talk about this on a blog where everyone is working hard to hide their identities. The men publicly giving real red pills long ago where silenced for speaking the truth. JP less of a gateway drug, than someone there to gate keep to keep men away from the truth.

Kunning Druegger says:

Red:

>JBP book
No, I observed Maps of Meaning 2017 in a focused and organized manner, and I found it excellent as a university lecture series (I know, extremely low bar). I’m not going to stand in the way of the dismantling of Harvard, in fact I would gladly help, but I do believe there’s a place for academics in society. It resembles the place for prophets, actually: isolated in a remote location with heavy restrictions on permissible activities after someone elects to Join the Institution.

>purity spiraling
Please chalk this up to poor communication on my part. I do not now, nor did I previously, think you were spiraling. I think JBP as a construct, as a representative of elites that could be converted to Reaction, opens the door to the discussion of tolerable mistakes in one’s personal history.

>leftist co-opting
I cannot rebut this. Shapiro is as dangerous as he is useless. If JBP entries and takes over his platform, that would be interesting, but that is so speculative and fanciful it’s not worth considering at this juncture.

>the redpill in public
Yet again, very on the money. The Polygon has made it basically impossible to state the truth in public under one’s identity. So, what is to be done? More specifically, what is to be done by Elites who are looking to withdraw from the status quo and move in a different direction? There’s a limit to how many Jims can exist in any given ideological Sphere. If the saturation gets too high, the Eye of Sauron will bring the Hammer of Czernobog. What can they do? A while back, someone pointed out the fact that JBP relies heavily on Jung while completely avoiding Jungian concepts that are unacceptable to the mainstream. We can look at that example and say “See? JBP is not telling the truth!” and be correct, but we must also factor in that he is leading people to the haunt of redpills, which is about the most that can be done under the current circumstances.

Jim points out that JBP was directly impacted, deleteriously, by the decline of Western science, and yet he says nothing. He also points out that JBP is parroting cathedral rhetoric about Russia. I will go ahead and point out that he was completely off base about Trump. These are all marks against the man. But he is still a courtier with influence and connections. He has a significant degree of status. He has no choice but to call the deer a horse. I guess I am just not certain he actually believes that it is a horse. If any one of us were in the same situation, in that we had status and influence and connections from holding a Position in the court of public opinion, how would we go about being worthy and accepting power without being stripped of our Position?

One final angle, and this may be irrelevant, is that JBP seems to ruminate for a long time on things before he holds forth on them. It could be the case that he is working towards a position on tech decline, GAE expansion, and the Redpill on Women. It is most likely not the case, but I don’t think we can state categorically that it is not the case.

I will suspend my defense of the man at this point. I’ve made my position clear, and my advocacy was voluntary and largely theoretical. Of course I will continue to respond if engaged, but I think both you and Jim have sufficiently demonstrated the negatives of the man and his movement. I see JBP as a vehicle for elaborating our body of thought on the methodology of converting, capturing, and utilizing elites, and I fully accept that he may not be the best example available.

jim says:

> It could be the case that he is working towards a position on tech decline, GAE expansion, and the Redpill on Women. It is most likely not the case, but I don’t think we can state categorically that it is not the case.

It is completely obvious that he does not believe what he says, nor say what he believes, so, being a smart guy, has already come to a conclusion. Obviously he knows on women and Western tech decline – why do you think it occurred to him to head off to Russia for medical treatment?

And he is not going to come out with it, at least not under the name Jordan Peterson, because he would at a minimum be cancelled, deplatformed, and demonetized, and as the Information Epoch holy war comes ever closer, likely more drastic measures would be applied.

If he comes out with it, great. We will revere him as another fallen martyr to the cause.

alf says:

It is a stupid lie, an evil lie, that makes the liar stupid,

I tried listening to the latest Joe Rogan / JBP podcast. I just couldn’t. The cringe was too much.

Red says:

> Please chalk this up to poor communication on my part. I do not now, nor did I previously, think you were spiraling. I think JBP as a construct, as a representative of elites that could be converted to Reaction, opens the door to the discussion of tolerable mistakes in one’s personal history.

Thank you. Controlled opposition always pretends to be on your side while endlessly subverting you. This is why Trump was so shocking. Not only did he make promises that told us he was but he actually delivered on them. Controlled opposition doesn’t do that.

I’ve yet to see JBP deliver anything of value to the people he’s selling books to.

If you want to like him, that’s fine. I don’t really care. But I think you’re just fooling yourself.

jim says:

> I’ve yet to see JBP deliver anything of value to the people he’s selling books to.

He dances around dangerous and powerful truths, and people hungry for truth follow him. And then he delivers “clean your room”.

Kunning Drueger says:

Meh, I already teach as well as he does. His command of the literature is impressive, but 90% of the literature is trash; Liuten has more value if we’re using command of fabricated reality lol. Further, he is a man with a hollow chest. In my estimation, he’s desperately trying to fill it while also holding onto his status, no easy task, but he remains a priest, and by default he’s a priest of the status quo. As I said, and as I believe, you and Jim put the matter to bed.

But I wouldn’t be the Puritan-descended conniving weasel GNON made me if I didn’t leave myself some avenue of intellectual tactical withdrawal, that being the idea of elite defection. Kidding aside, I honestly do think JBP will either lead a faction of defectors, or inspire defection, from the ranks of the academe, not dissimilar from rats fleeing a sinking ship.

The Cominator says:

Oh no one cares about the clean your room stuff but KDs points stand, he is a gateway to the real redpill even on women.

Yes he’s personally bad with women and far from alpha, so what.

Varna says:

His daughter developed an autoimmune crisis now managed by meat-eating, his wife got cancer I believe, and the world in general applied pressure from all sides.

He went on antidepressants, but later it turned out that once you start you are not expected to ever quit, only change meds.

They actually moved him on to ketamine, and then declared him insane.

It turned out that the only option for a guy to escape the globohomo brain pill system is to go outside it. He had to first fly to Russia to undergo a brutal cleansing procedure, and then fly to Serbia too undergo proper rehabilitation.
https://nypost.com/2021/01/31/jordan-peterson-says-he-was-suicidal-addicted-to-benzos/

Upon arrival in Russia it turned out globohomo while busy telling him that he’s insane, let him develop an undiagnosed pneumonia.

Controlled opposition or not, after this adventure he seems like a very changed man.

skippy says:

This stuff does not seem like something controlled opposition would do or would be allowed to do.

alf says:

It turned out that the only option for a guy to escape the globohomo brain pill system is to go outside it.

Or just stop visiting shrinks and stop taking pills. It’s not rocket science.

That said, if folk here like Peterson, sure, why not. We don’t have to agree on everything.

Pax Imperialis says:

“We have no plan. No hope. Nothing. Are you still willing to pay the price for something which may accomplish nothing?”

“Yes!”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s91oZNGhP_k

I want to live forever. I must choose death. There are no alternatives to death. Therefore I want a beautiful death over an ugly death, a purposeful death over a purposeless death, but there are no beautiful deaths or purposeful deaths anymore.

There is much to live for (in the materialistic sense), but little to die for (in the spiritual sense)… and I wish to die for something but there is nothing. No nation, no God, no creed.

An illusion of brotherhood exists in the uniformed services, but the good wars are long gone and the peace of our time corrodes the purity of conflict.

What is left for the warrior who wishes to die a good death (for a good purpose “Pro Patria Mori”) if there is no righteous war?

Is ritual suicide all that’s left?

Suicide that is born out of an attempted coup that is certain to fail.

Frank Matters says:

Random minecrafting is fruitless and retarded but I have yet to see someone play minecraft at a recreated Davos. Usually minecraft players just play at walmart servers. If you are so bored you want to stop playing, may as well go out in a unique way.

Kunning Drueger says:

The biggest piece of evidence IMO that Minecraft is just fake banner theater is the fact that it always seems to be PVE instead of PVP. I get that PVP on survival is almost impossible, but for no one to even try to play is just strange. Obviously, mods are a factor. With all the Discords so thoroughly invested, I can’t imagine organizing teams is really safe or even possible. Whatever the reason, the current PVP servers are so buggy and exploit laden that there exists a pretty substantial opportunity for leaderboard ranking. Additionally, Microsoft will break its bank hiring devs and mods to fix the bugs. The architecture is incredibly soft. If the walls of your garden are high enough, after a few generations, everything becomes very fragile.

Globalist Power Terminated II says:

A beautiful and touching video. His death was a tragedy, but not pointless I think.

One cannot know in advance who is watching, or will watch, and be inspired. Maybe the next great Japanese leader is a young man right now.

The Cominator says:

https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/21pdf/20-1530_n758.pdf?fbclid=IwAR18rValLfUFkusBNfmgRLmob_3QgkJRlkUCHof5QW3PudnBlNdQCA_yHeY

SCOTUS rules for West Virginia, and massively expands the major questions doctrine to approach that of the non delegation doctrine…

Cloudswrest says:

SC says EPA unlawfully arrogated power to itself to regulate CO2. A non-pollutant. **Congress** needs to specifically give them that authority.

Kagan dissent states, “The Court appoints itself, instead of *Congress* … the decisionmaker on climate policy.”

Can the Left lie any harder?? They just issue statements, that are disconnected from reality, to inflame their followers.

The Cominator says:

It’s too bad the Senate will likely be rigged forever…

As this ruling if allowed to stand would undermine nearly all administrative so called law.

Neurotoxin says:

Wow, fantastic!

yewotm8 says:

So this whole thing with Supreme Court Justices doing whatever they want, what’s the deal with that? Regardless of the actual content of these rulings, what is making them feel like they are safe to make them without getting antifa’ed? That’s the big question that I’m not seeing addressed.

Is it really just normalcy bias and only a matter of time until one of them gets beaten up and put in their place? Do they have an assurance of safety from somebody? Is that person a fed or lead a private organization? Maybe from a coordinator of such extralegal enforcers? Does the Cathedral plan to neutralize them anyway so they are just ruling whatever they want as a middle finger to them?

Contaminated NEET says:

>Is it really just normalcy bias and only a matter of time until one of them gets beaten up and put in their place?

Yes. Definitely. They’re really goddamned old, and there is no way they will understand that the world has changed until Leftist thugs put one of them in a coma.

The Cominator says:

They already got threatened bigly after the Roe leak, I’m surprised but they seem to have grown some balls. Maybe shame out of their total cowardice on the election…

Contaminated NEET says:

Sure, but none of them actually got hurt. They still think they’re part of an august and sacred institution and that the whole system will protect them. They don’t understand in the gut that half the country, two thirds of the bureaucracy, and three fourths of the press would cheer if the fanatics put them in the hospital. They won’t understand until it happens.

notglowing says:

>They still think they’re part of an august and sacred institution

They very much are, though. The left may very well attack them for this, but it doesn’t change how the judiciary is one of their holiest cows, and their most important stronghold within the government (whereas the State Department is their most important government stronghold for international matters).

Turning against the SCOTUS would be interesting. It’s going to make things much more volatile, because SC rulings are the backbone of every one of the worst policies they managed to push on the US.

The Cominator says:

Indeed open lawless attacks on SCOTUS justices may effect cuckservatives the way the Optimates attacking a tribune effected Caesar’s faction. The Cathedrals meeting hold for cuckservatives rest on the false but yet sacred meme of “rule of law”.

The Cominator says:

Meeting = meeting sovereignty… my new phone I haven’t turned autocorrect off yet…

jim says:

I would have corrected your comment, but did not understand your correction. “meeting sovereignty” does not seem to make sense either.

Contaminated NEET says:

>the judiciary is one of their holiest cows

It looked like that for years, but now we see otherwise. It wasn’t the judiciary that was holy, but the Leftism the judiciary was forcing on the public. It has become clear to anyone who isn’t a Supreme Court justice that the court itself has no holiness outside of making holy decisions. The mysterious black-robed priests of the Council of Nine have now shown that they are not the ruling committee of the GAE, but rather just a mask the Beast wears when making its decrees.

The Cominator says:

To the cuckservative the law is sacred and SCOTUS judges are sacred tribunes ala Roman tribunes.

If SCOTUS had held evidentiary hearings and let them be televised outlining the fraud… and then ruled that the state legislatures should name electorsa (rather than doing it themselves) as the voted electors were tainted that would have been a workaround.

notglowing says:

There aren’t infinite ways to make unpopular laws, especially with the legislative body never being one hundred percent on board, and being generally too difficult to use.

The judiciary was, is, the most effective way of doing it.
It is the most holy institution in the traditional liberal view of government, and it has had free reign to stop Trump and other politicians from exercising their power, as well as selectively charge and jail anyone who opposes the system.
The only two other avenues are bureaucracy/regulators and direct violence from the police unsanctioned by the official bureaucracy. The latter is not the favoured method by Harvard and comes at some danger.

A third avenue is secret actions from the CIA. But assassination through secret police is not enough to run a country.

Globalist Power Terminated II says:

I think Com meant to type out this?

The Cathedral’s [memetic sovereignty] hold [over] cuckservatives rest on the false but yet sacred meme of “rule of law”.

So if I understand correctly, he’s saying that escalating to straight up lawless violence (the use of naked power, without any justification) would finally rid cucks of their Republican delusions — and, for better or for worse, prompt some sort of political shake up. (Personally, I do not know if cucks will wake up in time to save America, but I certainly hope they will.) 🙂

The Cominator says:

Yes. Even the dumbest boomer cuckcons would be rid of all their delusions if it came to open and legally approved violence against non compliant SCOTUS justices.

Globalist Power Terminated II says:

Dang. I meant to append this comment to this thread here: https://blog.reaction.la/war/art-of-war-in-2022/#comment-2843578

(Oh well — it’s still visible.)

Aidan says:

Ruling in favor of Trump at election time would have been the end of “American Democracy”. Even if the conservative judges were sympathetic to allegations of massive voter fraud, it takes titanic stones to euthanize an entire empire. Brett Kavanaugh is no Caesar to cross the rubicon like that.

Yul Bornhold says:

What’s the full story of the Republican primary steals? Missed that when it happened.

The Cominator says:

They’re DEFINITELY happening in Georgia I’m not sure it’s been happening to the extent Jim seems to have claimed everywhere else.

Red says:

The primary was rigged for Oz in Penn as well. They did the don’t announce the results for days while they print up the votes for him. If it’s happening in GA and in Penn, then it’s likely happening everywhere.

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