Ideology as a Schelling point for the coordination of violence.

An army is coordinated violence, and a state is coordinated violence. So an army needs a faith, and state needs a faith.

A faith is apt to acquire an army and a state, and a state without a faith will acquire one, either by deliberate policy or by hostile entryism. So we always have a state religion. To act cohesively, a group needs a leader, but also shared beliefs.

The faith may be, and often is, “point deer make horse”, a lie that no one believes, but no one is allowed to disbelieve. Such faiths are evil, and tend to become, like the faith in Awesome and Mighty Covid Demon, flat out demonic, inflicting harm for the sake of inflicting harm. But the success of such faiths indicates there is a power vacuum among faiths.

Chinese historians concluded that no matter how strong “Point deer make horse” appears to be in the short run, it is too fragile to build a state out of.

We have a state religion of lies. It will not stand. It will perish, the only question is, shall we perish with it?

Men were not created equal, nor women to be the equal of men, and as this has been interpreted ever more literally, it has become ever more toxic, and is now intolerable. The time has now come when this founding lie shall end.

If people of the state apparatus do not take their faith too seriously, if they don’t really have a faith, they are apt to suffer entryism from people who take a different faith seriously. The most cohesive faith tends to win.

Stalin and Trotsky

One should not treat the claim that the owner of an applecart is oppressing the proletariat, causing global warming, or whatever, as sincerely held, nor suppose they give a tinker’s dam about the sufferings of the proletariat or the temperature of the earth, one does need to take seriously what their story implies about what apple cart they are coordinating to knock over, and what mob they are assembling to knock it over.

These are not individual conflicts, Stalin versus Trotsky, but struggles over Schelling points for group coordination.

Trotsky was a purer communist than Stalin, because his communism was unconstrained by practical economic considerations. Since there had been repeated cycles of the ever lefter grabbing power from the insufficiently left, his purity was likely to result in him grabbing power from Stalin, which was undoubtedly the real motive behind such lunatic purity and the real reason for Stalin crushing the Trots – but such purity was likely to result in someone grabbing power from Stalin, regardless of what happened to Trotsky. The ideas, rather than Trotsky himself, were the threat.

Ideas matter. And they still matter even when they should not be taken seriously. They may not be the real motives for the left’s actions, but they are the real mechanism for left coordination to take action.

The details of Trotsky’s superior purity are irrelevant, uninteresting, hypocritical, and not sincerely held. And in this sense, it would be pointless to pay attention to the ideological argument. But the argument was real enough regardless. Stalin was impure, because concerned with practical consequences. His reasoning that Trotskyism was “objectively fascist” was that it was likely to have stupid and disastrous practical consequences that the fascists would be happy about.

Established Anglicanism and the Socinians.

In the late eighteenth and early nineteenth century, England suffered hostile entryism from postChristians, (believers in Jesus the Jewish Community Organiser) who were, by the standards of that time radical leftists (anti slavery, female emancipation, gay toleration, expanding the franchise) and who have since then discarded the pretence of Christianity and become ever more radical.

Before this hostile entryist operation, Jews etcetera were excluded from state or quasi office in England. You had to be an Anglican of the Established Anglican Church to enter parliament, and, in practice, to get any state or quasi state job. After this hostile entryist operation, Jews etcetera were theoretically allowed in, but you had to believe in some form of leftism. You don’t see the Jews who hang out in Jewish enclaves and wear funny hats in the state and quasi state apparatus. The ones in the state apparatus are reform Jews, post Judaic Jews resembling the postChristian Christians and postIslamic Muslims. Religious tolerance is a mask for every more extreme religious intolerance.

Till the early eighteenth century, Established Anglicanism excluded non believers from state and quasi state office. DEI and ESG attempted to exclude non believers from every corner of society altogether, and if you are a straight white male, you are automatically under suspicion of nonbelief, resulting in every more extreme and absurd efforts to prove “allyship”.

Iranian postIslam

Iran is theoretically an Islamic theocracy but it was progressive Islam, which is why its overthrow of the Shah was backed by the West, and is now clearly postIslamic. PostIslamic Iran is systematically pushing women into stem fields of academia, which is now seventy percent female in Iran, while in Islamic Afghanistan, though women are theoretically permitted higher education, provided sexual segregation is enforced, you do not see too many actually doing it, and they study in fields for which women are well suited. Women are notoriously and obviously bored and irritated by stem, and and are usually incapable of stem fields even if they get into them. Men are interested in things and are good at things, women interested in people and small scale relationships and are good at that. Men like gear porn, women like relationship porn. Which underperformance is deemed a problem, and that problem that is met by a very hard push pushing women into stem fields, attempting forcibly and artificially reduce the difference between men and women. As a result, Iran now suffers from collapse in fertility and widespread disbelief in Islam, a vacuum into which Christianity is entering.

The vacuum in Iran is apparent, and the vacuum on the left in America is apparent, with its increasing adoption of “point deer make horse” type beliefs.

Point deer make horse, 指鹿为马

This Chinese idiom means “Pointing at a deer and calling it a horse”.

Zhao Gao was chief eunuch of the imperial court, and wanted to seize power from the emperor.

During a court meeting, he presented a deer (鹿), but deliberately called it a horse (馬). He asked the ministers: “Is this a deer or a horse?”. Those who corrected him (saying “deer”) were later executed or purged. Those who agreed with him (saying “horse”) were promoted.

The immediate result was that Zhao Gao gained absolute power from the emperor. Very shortly afterwards, the empire collapsed.

Repeating:

Chinese historians concluded that no matter how strong “Point deer make horse” appears to be in the short run, it is too fragile to build a state out of.

We have a state religion of lies. It will not stand. It will perish, the only question is, shall we perish with it?

Men were not created equal, nor women to be the equal of men, and as this has been interpreted ever more literally, it has become ever more toxic, and is now intolerable. The time has now come when this founding lie shall end.

Abraham and God Most High

In the days of Abraham, peasants who grew grain stuck around in one place, and got taxed and conscripted by Kings, while nomads wandered around, did not have allegiance to Kings, and would wander off if the squeeze became too tight. So the old Testament ignores the doings of Kings until the sojourn in Egypt. With one massively important brief exception:

The patriarchs organised for violence through the the male line of descent, with father’s brother’s daughter marriage, while the grain growers were organised by Kings. And it came to pass that the King of Elam wanted empire over others, and the others did not much like it. So he defeated the rebel Kings, who fled, and then he went on a punitive expedition, ravaging the land — and in the course of his ravaging, abducted Abraham’s brother Lot. So Abraham organised a counter attack, and successfully whacked the King of Elam’s forces, and recovered the loot obtained by the King of Elam in the course of his ravaging. Which means he was acting in alliance with a broader rebel coalition.

So, a bunch of quarrelling kinglets, some of them no doubt very bad people, and a bunch of quarrelling nomadic herders, some of them no doubt very bad people, need some unifying principle larger than themselves.

And he brought back all the goods, and also brought again his brother Lot, and his goods, and the women also, and the people.

And the king of Sodom went out to meet him after his return from the slaughter of Chedorlaomer, and of the kings that were with him, at the valley of Shaveh, which is the king’s dale.

And Melchizedek king of Salem brought forth bread and wine: and he was the priest of the most high God.

And he blessed him, and said, Blessed be Abram of the most high God, possessor of heaven and earth:

And blessed be the most high God, which hath delivered thine enemies into thy hand. And he gave him tithes of all.

And the king of Sodom said unto Abram, Give me the persons, and take the goods to thyself.

And Abram said to the king of Sodom, I have lift up mine hand unto the LORD, the most high God, the possessor of heaven and earth,

That I will not take from a thread even to a shoelatchet, and that I will not take any thing that is thine, lest thou shouldest say, I have made Abram rich:

Save only that which the young men have eaten, and the portion of the men which went with me, Aner, Eshcol, and Mamre; let them take their portion.

After these things the word of the LORD came unto Abram in a vision, saying, Fear not, Abram: I am thy shield, and thy exceeding great reward.

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Neurotoxin says:

Ideas matter. And they still matter even when they should not be taken seriously. They may not be the real motives for the left’s actions, but they are the real mechanism for left coordination to take action.

Thus the left is utterly cynical about taking ideas seriously, in the sense of sticking to a consistent set of principles, and yet they take ideas extremely seriously, as revealed by their taking over the education system, the information-spreading institutions, etc.

They don’t take ideas at all seriously in the sense of actually believing the things they say – no one is more cynical about leftist “ideas” or “principles” than leftists. But they take ideas very seriously in the sense of what ideas can accomplish in society.

Alf says:

PostIslamic Iran

Mayflower sperg’s comment on meeting Islamic parents in Russia raising postIslamic children got me thinking on the subject.

There’s the idea that technological progress often goes hand in hand with religious regression. Eg the industrial revolution having a direct impact on the decline of Abrahamic faiths. Which on the one hand is strange, because you’d imagine that since the technological innovation is a direct consequence of said (Christian) faith, we’d be disinclined to get rid of the goose that lays the golden eggs. But practice of course turns out different.

For one, there’s the maxim of good times create weak men. Why do all that effort for stringent traditions when you got a microwave, tv and smartphone? Such is man’s natural tendency for sin.

Then there’s the increased incentive for entryism: more applecarts means more loot. So while a healthy state religion should increase its defences during prosperity, the opposite happened.

But finally, I’d argue there’s a need for the state religion to be able to accomodate changing technological levels. Protestantism did a better job at this than Catholicism. Anglicanism and Episcopelianism did a better job at this than Calvinism and Lutherism. For instance, take Calvinism: in ‘Institution’, Calvin repeatedly refers to men in terms as ‘excrement’ and ‘worms’. How does one reconcile that with putting up a man on the moon? Did Neil Armstrong feel like excrement when he set foot on the moon? Did mankind feel like a worm when we watched Neil Armstrong set foot on the moon?

Reasoning this through, we’d predict that the Amish and comparable Luddites might delay the inevitable, but won’t evade it. A faith that refuses technology will lose to one that does not. Evolve or die.

Mayflower Sperg says:

You assume a hypothetical future religion that accepts technology without turning into modern progressive liberalism and contracepting itself out of existence.

All evidence so far supports the Amish belief that everyone who consumes mass-produced goods eventually succumbs to mass-produced ideas.

alf says:

You assume a hypothetical future religion that accepts technology without turning into modern progressive liberalism and contracepting itself out of existence.

That is exactly what I’m arguing for, the only point of contention being whether Jimian Christianity is a hypothetical faith or not (in my house, not hypothetical).

everyone who consumes mass-produced goods eventually succumbs to mass-produced ideas.

How successful are the amish really at keeping out technology? To what extent is the new generation just hiding smartphones? I’m open to being corrected on the issue, but suspect that the Amish keep finding new legalese loopholes to justify using technology.

Mayflower Sperg says:

If they start using smartphones they are no longer Amish but Mennonites, who send their daughters to college to get deflowered by Aiden.

Alf says:

Well…

One of the biggest misconceptions […] a lot of Amish kids my age have phones, they hide it from their parents

Turns out Amish kids are on snapchat.

The Cominator says:

The idea that the Amish have a sort of total ignorance of all electronic technologies is a misconception. Some Amish have businesses that have websites. They just don’t use technology in their personal lives.

I don’t know to what extent the kids have cell phones, I have heard that Amish being anabaptists do not enforce the rules nearly as harshly until the time comes when they decide whether they will voluntarily stick with the Amish community or not.

alf says:

If on snapchat, clearly in personal life.

Perhaps all the kids throw away their smartphones when they turn adult. I don’t buy it. Pandora’s box is easily opened, very hard to close.

Jim says:

> Pandora’s box is easily opened, very hard to close.

Some, many, Amish, have adopted smartphones. Some have not.

As a whole, Amish are still successfully marrying and having families. So, the interesting question is: Are those who have adopted smartphones successfully marrying and having children?

Seems to me, if they were not, we would have heard about it. It would be a topic of discussion among the Amish.

The way smartphones kill reproduction is that is Miss Average has one hundred top quality dicks one click away from getting inside her. Perhaps Amish that have allowed smartphones have also managed some way of stopping Miss Average from clicking on the finest dick around. It hardly seems likely that they were oblivious to this problem.

Brinby says:

> Perhaps Amish that have allowed smartphones have also managed some way of stopping Miss Average from clicking on the finest dick around.

Takeup of smartphones is still relatively low, and generally governed by individual community law, such as to replace the shared landline, telehealth, or only when traveling.

Not apologizing for the Father of Miss Average who let her have a phone, or for Feral Miss Average for using one so obtained… but it might be better if their apps only showed Amish Dick, not the GloboHomo apps showing them Jungle Dick from the Ghettos of neighboring Pittsburgh.

Though if there is Amish Dick, that means you are losing Amish Men, which means there will be no more Amish.

So maybe it is Amish Men who should allow themselves to internet so they can find, convert, import, and marry young White Women from around the country looking for a based life, and kicking out their own sloots in the process.

Fidelis says:

I’ve lived near and interacted with different Amish sects. They are not a homogeneous mass, they are a loosely affiliated set of protestant groups that mandate agricultural lifestyles. Every group has their local bishop that decides what flies and what does not, and every group has their own little song and dance where they decide how much to listen to their bishop and how much to not. By and large they listen to the bishop.

Most of the Amish groups do not adopt any technology firsthand, but allow themselves the luxury of having you use it on their behalf. They have no problem riding in a car with you, provided they trust you, but won’t try and buy a tractor. Some have decided, collectively, to allow certain digital technologies; hence, pictures of Johann in his usual modest garb squinting at a monitor. Not all. The core of the Amish is as the stereotype: rejection of modern lifestyle entirely, big families and big community building big villages by hand and working the soil by hand. The periphery adopts and adapts new technologies and ideas, but they have so far remained the periphery. Likely to remain the periphery into the far future, since the Amish memeset is optimized for their reproductive niche. If we pass the great filter, the future humanity will gawk at these simple folk and regard them as we do the Sentinelese, rather than as cousins of the past.

Jim says:

Obviously the future belongs to high tech people with high fertility — the nearest approximation being Talibanic Afghanistan, which is not all that high tech.

Talibanic Afghanistan is expanding into its depopulating neighbours through illegal immigration. When you get enough Afghan illegals, there tends to be insurrection, so we are seeing low level and some times higher level Talibanic insurrection in neighbours, who are losing control of their rapidly expanding Afghan population. If nothing changes, then this will continue until the whole world is Talibanic Afghanistan. Obviously I would prefer Christians to get in on the act before the Taliban beat us to it.

Iran is attempting, not very successfully, to impose their low fertility social order on its large and growing Afghan minority. I don’t have any clear idea of what the others are doing.

Jim says:

And yet, the Amish continue to reproduce.

alf says:

Up till now, sure. But smartphones are too recent an innovation to have already made an impact on fertility rates. See what happens in a few years.

I am reminded of an old lady, an honest-to-God Christian of a time near over. She’d tell me that when she was young, they were of course forbidden by church to watch movies in the theater. They’d sneak out and watch anyways. God also forbade them to watch tv, but eventually every home had one. Sure, she watched the ‘Christian’ content, but at that point you’ve lost memetic sovereignty — passed from the pastor into the television.

Now America is much bigger than my country. The Amish have lived fairly secluded lives – no cinema to sneak off too. They’ve been pretty successful at keeping out televisions too. But are they keeping out smartphones? Seems like not. And sure, they tell themselves they only use ’em for ‘Christian’ content, but paint me blue and call me a muffin if that ain’t the slippery slope to losing memetic sovereignty.

someDude says:

Speaking of Aiden, where is he? Haven’t heard of him for a while. Raising a family, I suppose.

Jim says:

> You assume a hypothetical future religion that accepts technology without turning into modern progressive liberalism

Established Anglicanism accepted science and technology. Seemed to do fine for one hundred and sixty years. If one hundred and sixty years, why not forever?

Point of failure was the women question, not smartphones. Accepted evolution while failing to accept Red pill and Evolutionary psychology. Thus ditching the Garden of Eden narrative as literal truth, while failing to accept it as spiritual truth.

Accept the Red Pill and evolutionary psychology, then the Bible can absorb Darwin without shaking.

Daddy Scarebucks says:

There’s the idea that technological progress often goes hand in hand with religious regression.

Have you considered the possibility that this is just an out-and-out lie, broadcast by the same megaphone that says “the facts have a liberal bias”?

…paint me blue and call me a muffin if that [smartphone use] ain’t the slippery slope to losing memetic sovereignty.

Sure–but not because the inherent form or function of a smartphone makes it a conduit for evil spirits to leap out and possess the user. It is because the technology platform is under the control of progressives and their loyal servants who agree to use it to enforce a memeplex that is contrary and hostile to that of the Amish, traditional Christians, and so on. Sometimes this is overt conspiracy, as we saw during Trump 1.0, and sometimes it is just emergent conspiracy based around the Schelling points Jim is discussing.

Ascendant power is always going to seek to use the latest and greatest technology to cement and preserve its power, which may create a false association between the technology and the regime in the minds of the memetically susceptible. Thus, Social Media put Trump in power (and before Trump, Obama), and TV put the Democrats in power, and Rifling put the revolutionary leftists in power, and the Printing Press put revolutionary Protestants in power… and so on and so forth, with guys like Severian/FQ tripping over their own dicks to personify and impute agency to intangible forces like “Information Velocity” and “Caloric Surplus” and explain from a Totally Right-Wing Perspective how the Arc of History was simply the inevitable outcome of Progress.

It’s all bullshit, and some well-meaning but futile elaborations on bullshit from people who bought into the bullshit and haven’t gotten their refunds. Progress didn’t cause leftism, leftists just took credit for the progress that was already happening, and then managed to kill off nearly all real progress within a few short centuries.

In 200 years we might see the same kinds of people rushing to explain how drone warfare, LLMs and deepfakes made the slide to right-wing ideologies inevitable, and have very clever and plausible-sounding rationale for it that is equally silly at bottom. The technology is not inherently right-wing either, it’s just that the apparat is struggling to keep it explicitly left-wing because the apparat is stagnant, out-of-touch, incompetent and getting weaker by the day. A single major breakthrough on either side could cause a huge swing in the balance of power.

I thought Memetic Sovereignty 101 was that there is no arc of history, there are no non-human agents except God, and that no ideology is inevitable, yet whichever ideology is in power will always claim that it was inevitable; and if one intends on replacing that ideology then one must reject said claim to inevitability.

Alf says:

I am certainly no adherent of the lib idea that technological progress dispels the silly notion of God as an explanation for the universe.

But I do think that as technology changes our understanding of ourselves and the world we live in, so must our faith keep up with that change. A tricky process. Your point about the Amish using enemy controlled smartphones is exactly what I mean: would not be a problem if the Amish produce their own smartphones. But they don’t, and likely never will.

That the Tech Question is downstream from the Women Question, I have no problems conceding. But while on the one hand it is obvious that the Amish have been able to keep their women under control much more effectively without tech, equally obvious that enemy-controlled tech is an easy attack vector to entice women with a neverending supply of mr one-in-a-million.

Daddy Scarebucks says:

I apologize if I implied that you actually believe that technology causes leftism; I think that not even the libs believe that in its literal form, although some might claim to.

My point is, rather, that there is a large pile of modern historical claims that, when you strip away the shiny layers of techno-paint, ultimately reduce to Historicism, in the same way that there is a pile of modern philosophical claims that ultimately boil down to Gnosticism.

Their adherents have become quite proficient at adapting it to the latest fad; in the latter case it is the Simulation Hypothesis, Integrated Information “Theory” and the all-but-inevitable appearance of the AI messiah superintelligence. And in the former case it is apparent religious obsolescence, “Mouse Utopia” and other theories of change catalyzed by the Internet/Social Media etc., in which human societies are portrayed as mere bystanders as opposed to active participants in History.

It goes without saying that if your enemy controls some resource, then you need to be very careful about availing yourself of that same resource, but this is not limited to technology; it is equally true for land, or currency, or infrastructure, or information. Tech doesn’t have a special rank here, it’s just another force multiplier over which feuding factions fight for control.

alf says:

Tech doesn’t have a special rank here

You really believe that? Seems to me we’ve long reached the point where technological innovations play such a disproportionately large role in power struggles as to trump most other factors. Not just in a strict military sense, but also in the sense that social technology has become totally dominated by actual technology – podcasts, social media, websites, group chats, etc etc. We disseminate our faith through technology. It’s not a trivial relationship.

Since a lot of that specific kind of tech has been dominated by the left, makes sense that those who shun tech have evaded emancipation. But this stuff is just too powerful to shun — yes, much of today’s consumer tech is absolute brainrot, but it is also the future. So really, my only point is that as much as I sympathize with the Amish perspective on a simple life, I strongly believe that any branch of Christianity must provide a positive context for technology. Something like: technology, like many things in life, provides both opportunity for sinful behavior and for greatness. We shall use it for greatness (eg, conquer the stars).

Anon says:

“Since a lot of that specific kind of tech has been dominated by the left, makes sense that those who shun tech have evaded emancipation.”

This is why I have hope because of rise of Chinese tech.
Chinese are too autistic to try and dominate tech culturally like the GAE , most of china tech development is due to “national competition “ with the west than trying to build faith sovereignty through tech independence. Ironically most of the tech developments in china is due to retarded policies of “tech transfers ban” that resulted in the opposite effect in forcing china tech advances.

So in the future you can use china tech in computers , CPU etc to build your own tech stach for networks , crypto , AI etc.

As GAE tech become unusable due to AI slop in code , the EU are trying decoupling from US due to Trump “fascism” , but they do not have the technological base to do it , I will be interesting if they tried to use Chinese tech.

Mayflower Sperg says:

I apologize if I implied that you actually believe that technology causes leftism; I think that not even the libs believe that in its literal form, although some might claim to.

Technology means that the people planting ideas in young minds are far less likely to have any genetic relation to those young minds. 19th-century barn dances were designed to get the organizers’ kids paired up, married, and making babies; 21st-century dating services are designed to keep customers coming back and paying for more matches.

Religions mutate as they compete for global mindspace, some growing genetically, others memetically. The more effective a religion is at attracting converts, the less it needs to push its current believers to marry and raise children. Thus it evolves toward parasitism, biology’s word for leftism. Since Gutenberg invented the printing press, technology has been tilting the playing field ever more in favor of memes over genes.

So yes, technology does lead to leftism.

Kevin C. says:

Since Gutenberg invented the printing press, technology has been tilting the playing field ever more in favor of memes over genes.

So yes, technology does lead to leftism.

Thus, any civilization with communications technology sufficiently-advanced enough to produce radio signals detectable at interstellar ranges is almost certainly terminally infested with hyper-infectious reproduction-suppressing leftist mind-viruses, and soon to collapse to a level no longer capable of such emissions.

And thus is solved the Fermi Paradox.

Humungus says:

>”…and if you are a straight white male, you are automatically under suspicion of nonbelief, resulting in every more extreme and absurd efforts to prove “allyship”.

Insightful article. The primary Shelling point of leftists would appear to see White male as the main apple card needing to be overturned. Demanding a disavow of self, which is impossible.

Ryan says:

There is some coalescence in the online right around Warhammer 40k as a sort of ideological lens.

Do people, explicitly or by consequence, stand for the preservation of their civilization and race, or with the demons, mutants, heretics and aliens who act to destroy them?

Putting an abstract goal such as ‘equality’ above practical and essential considerations such as fertility, food supply etc is de facto treason, so it would probably be helpful to have an explicit ‘heresy’ list where advocating for various things comes with severe consequences.

Henman says:

Weekend Update with Henman 🙂

Pray for Jake Lang (@JakeLang), he’s a White Christian activist that keeps getting beat up and stabbed by Leftist and Islamic mobs.
https://x.com/RealDonKeith/status/2012859464160805218
https://x.com/JakeLang/status/2012691764251861167
https://x.com/JakeLang/status/2012571135901135059
https://x.com/RealAlexJones/status/2013073225119309959
https://GiveSendGo.com/JakeLangDefense

This man is a faggot, faggotry is abomination.
https://x.com/nicksortor/status/2012986974601166928
https://x.com/TRobinsonNewEra/status/2013046808319066239
https://x.com/TRobinsonNewEra/status/2013020558678499763
https://x.com/BaptistLeaders/status/2012972616693194934
https://x.com/TRobinsonNewEra/status/2013049374067106225

Dangerous Demonic Ferality of the unowned free-range Female (aka: AWFL).
https://x.com/ExxAlerts/status/2012756374694895882
https://x.com/AliBradleyTV/status/2010191994602373596
https://x.com/MattFinnFNC/status/2009686113632297130
https://x.com/KimKatieUSA/status/2010015850741617045

Churches being taken
https://x.com/TRobinsonNewEra/status/2012978205016142114
Paychecks being taken
https://x.com/TRobinsonNewEra/status/2012967174705393925
Daughters being taken
https://x.com/TRobinsonNewEra/status/2012948468180873567

Biden flew the pedo flag front and center.
https://x.com/nicksortor/status/2012945095763403221

I get paid by George Soros.
https://x.com/PolitiBrawlNews/status/2011559508959433143

Chimps and stone worshippers… Incompatible and Not Same.
https://x.com/TRobinsonNewEra/status/2012982671870202102
https://x.com/TRobinsonNewEra/status/2013000890341359662
https://x.com/TRobinsonNewEra/status/2013012467945799974
https://x.com/TRobinsonNewEra/status/2012990120350097572
https://x.com/TRobinsonNewEra/status/2012891506432933977

The problem of allowing Foreign-born influnce in your Congress.
https://x.com/AndrewKolvet/status/2012357522242392558
https://x.com/GuntherEagleman/status/2012116798163005770

Prepare to defend against Evil now, *before* the weather in the USA begins thawing out its spawn.

Pray and Train as Men and Warriors
https://x.com/TRobinsonNewEra/status/2012921949840691402

Varna says:

The deep state bureaucracy (“nomenklatura”, “apparatchiks”), are a massive power structure class that tends to be invisible to many observers. Of the eye rolls and flared nostrils when Trump mentions them. And yet ancient rulers from Constantine to Peter the Great would sometimes just give up on reforming/uprooting a deep state that was too entrenched, and start over in a new capital city.

In the past, the vast mycelium-like deep state was a function of oriental empires, and quite foreign to the western man. What the Chinese and the Byzantines and the Ottomans and the Persians and even the Russians knew from centuries of experience, only begun to appear in the west for real around the 19th century. Max Weber analyzed it, mainly from a positive perspective, around the turn of the 19th and 20th centuries, providing perhaps inadvertently, the basis for the technocratic managerial utopianism.

“We uncovered new technologies and conquered the world in a wild, improvised, piratical manner, but finally we are able to settle into a reasonable and managed civilization”. Less than a generation later a sudden, unexpected, self-perpetuating ragnarok scattered the european civilization into shreds.

After WWI & WWII the deep state grew in incredible ways, perhaps even overtaking the olden oriental ones. In a playful British ironic way this was described by Cyril Northcote Parkinson (“Parkinson’s laws”) in the 1950s.
Ike warned of the “industrial military complex” in his farewell speech https://www.youtube.com/shorts/qYUlBPCrszk
JFK reacted to its shadowy movements and demonic entryism in a more sci-fi manner https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvSD6If3zds

When Reagan appeared on the presidential scene, the initial revolutionary impulse of the Eastern Block had already settled into a nomenklatura “technocracy” sanctified by an increasingly hollow faith, but which saw itself as indispensable, all powerful, and eternal. Its reaction to the Reagan/Thatcher combo was a) fear and contempt, b) lashing out and accusations of fascism and imperialism, c) sudden collapse.

Donald de Orange, is in a different place, where the nomenklatura begins at home. If say theoretically in his first term he had a weak team and could count on 5% of the state’s mechanisms, with the remaining 95% being the internal nomenklatura fighting him, this time around he has new allies and at least 15% of the state’s mechanisms on his side. Still has to pretend everything is fine, and joke around, while staying inside his own fortress as much as possible and excluding the nomenklatura from his decision making as much as possible, and trying to keep himself and his loved ones and allies alive on a moment by moment basis.

On the foreign policy front he needs to work with bluffs, surprises, abrupt use of the instruments that he *can* easily use (sudden tariffs, informal handshake allies, fast surgical military strikes etc), while on the domestic policy front there is no way wound it: you try and do what Reagan did to the Soviets, but this time to the internal Soviets, with abrupt and brilliant application of the minuscule resources that you have. Every victory expands your resources and reduces the resources of the nomenklatura. You start with 10%, then 15%, then 20%…

The current mycelium-like endless nomenklatura deep state is described in detail by heroes like Mike Benz; intuited in an artistic, sci-fi manner earlier by Moldbug.

Today’s globohomo alliance of state/corporate nomenklatura and the pseudo-revolutionary brahmins sanctifying them, is “neo-brezhnevism” mainly in this eternal post-oriental sense. Not just because their official ideology is deindustrialized Soviet communism with poppers and double fisting, but because apparently every time the deep state goes into self-perpetuating autonomous mode, it repeats the same mechanics and functions.

Of course, any vacuum in faith is hijacked by either psychopathic liars, or crazies, or both. The difference in the faith of a nomenklatura-based society is far from insignificant: do you get a copy of the almost reasonable Eastern Roman/Ottoman/Persian empire, or of the nightmarish ghoulish Aztec empire, or just a blindingly fast genocidal implosion of the Pol Pot type?

Stalin, Trotsky, and Mao, ideological differences aside, all knew from the olden regimes that they had vanquished, that the oriental type of deep state forms and takes over faster than normies imagine, if they are even capable of seeing the world through such a filter. Marx and Weber and Mussolini etc were naïve pre-20th century westerners seeing the nomenklatura as a tool, and not as a pseudo-self-aware organism that needs to constantly be kept in check.

Trotsky’s solution was a “permanent revolution” to not allow the nomenklatura class to solidify. This, however, cannot work in a world where everyone will attack you the moment your institutions are at their most disorganized. His “solution” was “we just just start a world revolution at the same time everywhere bro, trust me.”

Stalin’s solution was to have the NKVD breathe down the necks of the bureaucrats and do cyclical purges. However, the moment the purges stopped after 1953, a short “golden age” followed for about a decade, following the internal momentum, and then stagnation set in instantly, kicking off with a second “golden decade” this time maintained by loans and imports of food from the US and Canada, and then sudden collapse.

Mao’s concept during the “cultural revolution” was a combination of Trotsky’s and Stalin’s approach, but could only happen because China already had nukes and external predators could not instantly invade at the moment of the lowest functioning of the institutions, and, of course, the human cost was enormous.

Today’s young Chinese are a head taller and with better bones and teeth than the ones born during the cultural revolution. Capitalist imperialist pig-dog free market is still unbeaten on the level of basic distribution of protein to the population. Of course, the irony of the 21st century is that places like Vietnam and China have a more free market in a number of aspects that today’s West.

A)Faith, b) mandatory elite rotation c) constant strong leader pressure from above, d) constant grassroot pressure from below, e) constant competition between different institutional branches instead of cartel formation, f) safeguarding of watchdog institutions and media from hostile entryism, g) regular referendums on all levels, h) guaranteed once a generation “tribal council” which reviews absolutely everything up to now and sees what needs to be rolled back and what needs a rethink… some sort of digitalized futuristic system will absolutely need to be constructed to keep the nomenklatura cartel deep state from taking over and suffocating society, and demon worship from infiltrating society, but we have yet to see how.

What safeguards, what alarm systems, what mechanics…

The demographic situation is a first in known history, the technological situation is a first in known history, the social structure (or rather lack thereof) is a first in know history. A lot of firsts. There could be important opportunities hidden there.

Jeff Albertson says:

Great comment. Moldbug Persists!* I get more good info from Jim’s comment section than a day’s worth of other browsing, with the exception of Unz.

* Did they ever decide on a label? Neoreaction? Those were the days…

Varna says:

I am watching on youtube the Hoover Institution’s episodes “Nial Ferguson, Victor Davis Hanson and Stephen Kotkin: Three Historians Debate the Era of Trump”. From 3 months ago. Around minute 13 they literally bring up the Thermidorean reaction and debate how long it can last. Heh. Heh.

Anonymous Fake says:

History doesn’t repeat, but it does rhyme. And the second axiom I’ll introduce in our case, is that the punch that you don’t see coming hurts the most. Our “point deer, make horse” system is based on [A strange parallel universe deleted]

Jim says:

It appears that the problem in your universe is that conservatives, Christians, and Republicans control academia.

Anonymous Fake says:

Fine. I’ll just come out and admit that I was reared Presbyterian. And they have collapsed over 90% per capita among the young over the last 2 generations, [*deleted*]

Jim says:

Yes, everything is going to $#!%, but your diagnosis of why and how it is going to $#!% comes from a universe very different from our own.

There are no Christians or conservatives in Academia, and the Presbyterian Church is collapsing because postChristian. PostChristian pastors only intend postChristianity as a swift transition between old type Christianity, and full on woke sodomy where they get to tell your children which gender they are out of fifty seven genders.

Anonymous Fake says:

I can understand Henry VIII seizing the universities by dumb, stupid force. I cannot understand how “Socinians” and other weirdos (transcendentalists, impressionists, objectivists, psychoanalysts, whatever) came into the elite institutions. But in my own life, I can contribute my analysis of how meritocracy rose and fell, rising with strivers and grinders and falling with cheaters and grade inflation cases.

Presbyterians were not “PostChristian” in living memory. I have offered an autopsy of this religious community, and it explains how they have collapsed much faster than the more liberal ones.

No one wants his children to become eunuchs or sodomites. If they’re going to get higher GPA’s from studying sodomy or castration, though, lots of people will approve of it. And if high GPA’s mean more time to grind for standardized tests and this means “good school district” money coming in for housing values, suddenly most people start putting rainbow flags outside.

Leftists who just dump kids in school they don’t give a damn about are not harmed by any of this. They have a huge comparative advantage.

Jim says:

> I can understand Henry VIII seizing the universities by dumb, stupid force.

That is because you are an idiot. He did not, and could not, employ dumb stupid force against an enemy based on soft power.

Facing a hostile priesthood, Henry the VIII looked around for a friendly priesthood, and empowered them to go digging up dirt on the enemy priesthood. A mighty mountain of dirt was found.

Every monastery and nunnery that was dissolved was dissolved fair and square using the Roman Catholic Church’s own rules against it.

> I cannot understand how “Socinians” and other weirdos (transcendentalists, impressionists, objectivists, psychoanalysts, whatever) came into the elite institutions

“Hail fellow Christian I am more Christian than thou”. And then when the post Christians get the majority, they purge the remaining Christians, then drop the mask.

> I can contribute my analysis of how meritocracy rose and fell

No you cannot. Because that is not what meritocracy means. Meritocracy means rule by the able. You are using it to mean giving the able good grades in school. Which has been in rapid decline since 1870. No one alive today can have seen “meritocracy” rise.

And when did actual meritocracy rise? Rule by the able. Well, the East India Company was obviously rule by the able, and that started in the 1660s. The idea that a college degree should entitle you to a job only really started to happen after World War II, and was part of the eradication and suppression of actual meritocracy.

Anonymous Fake says:

“No you cannot. Because that is not what meritocracy means. Meritocracy means rule by the able. You are using it to mean giving the able good grades in school. Which has been in rapid decline since 1870. No one alive today can have seen “meritocracy” rise.”

Then there was an attempted restoration of meritocracy in the late 20th century, based on post civil rights migrations from cities to subdivisions, and “good schools” were competing with each other based on how strict and rigorous they were. You could call it preppyism or striverism and it went on to become the dominant culture of much of East Asia for some reason, without the “help” of the underclass. This never should have happened due to the history you mentioned, and even worse, in modern times the boys in school who get the highest grades are usually doped up.

But there is still the issue of Harvard and Yale objectively producing the ruling class. And East Asia’s collapse is not stopping, so schooling reform is an issue that absolutely will not simply go away. But Ukraine could go any direction and it will not matter one bit.

Jim says:

The state inserts into all important businesses an apparatus that requires the better jobs to be filled by the “right” people, and the universities get the job of filtering those people. Supposedly on merit. Which leads to intense competition to get into the “right” universities, leads to people striving very hard to be meritorious, the prep school merit rat race of which you endlessly complain.

Trouble is, the universities never were filtering people on merit in the sense of intelligence, or inherent competence to do any job other than priesting, and have been doing so less and less.

In an actual meritocracy, top jobs are filled on actual merit, not on the basis of a degree from an elite university, and universities admit on merit. Neither is the case, and both have been becoming less and less the case.

It certainly was, and in large part still is, the case that good jobs were awarded on the basis of graduation from an elite university. But this was not merit, and still would not be merit even if admission and graduation from elite universities had been based on merit, which it never was.

Jimmy says:

Is it possible you two are talking past each other because you define the word “merit” differently?

When it comes to hiring, Jim says “merit” but means “competence” or “productivity.” the guy who can produce the best in the job merits the job.

Maybe the other guy says “merit” and means something like “the guy who faithfully completed the preparations required for the job.”

I’m not taking a side–just noticing that this exchange happens over and over like nobody is getting traction. Often it’s an unstated definition that causes this phenomenon.

Jim says:

By “merit”, Anonymous Fake means. “Received the blessing of Academia for submitting tons of meaningless homework”. I continually push back on this definition. And by “meritocracy”, he means that all the nice jobs should go to people who got As on their homework, also that the economy should be rigged in favor of jobs given by higher authority to people who got As in school. And should be rigged against entrepeneurs large and small who create their own jobs, rather than being awarded to them by higher authority, from your plumber and tiler to Elon Musk.

I, of course, push back on this definition, to the extent that I let him push it at all.

Jimmy says:

(obviously, in a sane country they would be the same guy, hence the disconnect here)

The Cominator says:

For the left the idea that matters most other than seizing apple carts would seem to be the friend and enemy distinction. The left instinctively understands the friend and enemy distinction, the right seems to struggle.

Daddy Scarebucks says:

The friend and enemy distinction is provided by the Schelling points, by the ideology. To remain firmly in power you want to promote yours, and deny any opposition the ability to coalesce around theirs, or even to have any to coalesce around.

It is not that leftists are inherently better at IFFing than rightists, it’s that reliable IFFing requires organization, and organization requires power. The more power Trump acquires, assuming he keeps learning and keeps succeeding in some measure, the better you will see Trump’s followers become at distinguishing friend and enemy.

The friend/enemy distinction is weakest when morale is weakest. Most recently, all the bad actors came to the forefront a few weeks after Charlie Kirk was assassinated and the administration of justice was, let’s just say, not very swift or effective. The entryists quite correctly surmised that a demoralized and leaderless group would be willing to accept people they would not have accepted a month earlier.

IFF is the consequence of organizing, not the principle that you organize around.

Contaminated NEET says:

All of this is true, but we don’t have an alternative state religion. We don’t even have an embryo of an alternative state religion.
>Established Anglicanism […] Seemed to do fine for one hundred and sixty years. If one hundred and sixty years, why not forever?
1) It’s already been beaten. We all agree the enemy infiltrated it, conquered it, and wears its skin. What’s to stop them from repeating the same strategy?
2) That 160 years was a period without modern mass media and modern mass armies. It’s easier and more powerful now to infect endless zombie hordes of retarded NPCs with egalitarian propaganda and use them to accomplish your ends. Established Anglicanism probably can’t survive and almost definitely can’t thrive in the current meta.
3) Nobody actually believes in Christianity now. At least, nobody powerful, wealthy, or influential.

There is no seizing the wheel of Western Civilization, and there is no turning this around. There is only rebuilding from the ruins of a crash that may still be decades out.

Pax Imperialis says:

>we don’t have an alternative state religion

Communion of Reformed Evangelical Churches
Pastor Douglas Wilson

>Nobody actually believes in Christianity now. At least, nobody powerful, wealthy, or influential.

Then you’re not paying attention to the Trump administration.

Contaminated NEET says:

>Then you’re not paying attention to the Trump administration.

A bunch of fly-by-night losers who’ll be either jailed or selling supplements in three years? People who love fishing in the Rubicon but would never ever ever ever cross it? Why would I pay attention to them?

Jim says:

> A bunch of fly-by-night losers who’ll be either jailed or selling supplements in three years.

One way or another way, the regular alternation of power between the two faces of the uniparty is about to cease.

The current situation is like the last years of the Roman Republic. The Republic was dead, and its rotting corpse was stinking ever worse, but everyone, including Caesar, continued to act as if it was still alive.

The conspirators thought that by killing Caesar, they would restore the Republic. Instead, they revealed to everyone that the Republic was dead.

Trump refuses to cross the Rubicon, but it will be revealed, sooner or later, one way or another way, that the Rubicon has crossed Trump.

Bix Nudelmann says:

Trump refuses to cross the Rubicon, but it will be revealed, sooner or later, one way or another way, that the Rubicon has crossed Trump.

Well shit. There are organized mobs opposing and obstructing federal law enforcement, doxxing and hunting down federal officers at church, supported and covered for by the media and judiciary.

It’s so plain-sight insurrectionary, I can’t imagine what else could be. It makes Harpers Ferry look like shoplifting a Quickee Mart.

(Repeal 19.)

sidebar: They’re calling immigration law enforcement “ethnic cleansing” now. “Do you want to know more?”

Daddy Scarebucks says:

…who’ll be either jailed or selling supplements in three years

The problem with your prediction is that you made the exact same prediction three years ago–and the three years before that.

You know, for a long time I thought you were just a sperg living in squalid misery and unable to appreciate the positives in any situation, but one can’t fail to notice at this point that the loudness, frequency, intensity and negativity of your rants all rise proportionally with increasing political and military success, and so I must conclude that you are in fact a genuine demoralization shill, doing this very much on purpose.

“[Trump/Vance/Hegseth] is falling, falling, he has fallen.” Always the same script, and no more believable than the ones saying it about Putin.

Neurotoxin says:

“…so I must conclude that you are in fact a genuine demoralization shill, doing this very much on purpose.”

THANK YOU! Finally! I was getting really tired of being the only voice shouting in the wilderness about Neet.

Jim says:

Neet’s big errors are

1. that good results can never happen, about which he has been wrong many times.

2. that even if they do happen, the left will just absorb them and they will have no long term effect, which presupposes that the natural order is stable and permanent leftism.

Many victories will indeed fail to have long term effect, but stable and permanent leftism is impossible. Leftism has to get ever lefter, ever faster. As soon as the Rinos are running on a platform of torturing every straight white male to death, the Democrats will have no choice but to run on a platform of torturing every straight, every male, and every white to death, or the left will be devoured by the leftmost.

If the left is forced to stop moving ever leftwards — well, it will look for something else to be ever lefter about. Covid, Russia, Climate Change, whatever. But Trump, unlike Reagan, is doing a three sixty degree revolution — charging against the radical left on all fronts. Thus cutting off their oxygen supply, denying them endless new applecarts to be knocked over.

This is what outrages and shocks the libertarians “Hey no fair protecting all applecarts — you should only protect our applecarts so that we can go after all the other applecarts.”

yewotm8 says:

Contaminated NEET is mithridatism for the blog. An inoculation. A black pill dropped into the bloodstream of the blog’s comment section, around which the commenters quickly surround and encapsulate in a much larger white pill.

You are tired of having to be a white blood cell, but the responses to him are really helpful for the audience.

Neurotoxin says:

Thanks man.

Anon says:

As far as I can see Neet is not a shill , he just being “realistic” as in we all gonna die and no one is gonna save us, which is a probable end.
It is very important to keep this in a perspective so you don’t deludes yourself.
Clearly Trump is succeeding at somethings but ultimately it is not enough , hence the fishing at the rubicon.
Also sometime he is funny.

Jim says:

> A bunch of fly-by-night losers who’ll be either jailed or selling supplements in three years?

Remember our discussion of the Republican Convention where they nominated Trump the first time.

You predicted that rioters protected by the cops would disrupt the convention. I predicted that the cops would hammer the rioters into the ground like a tack.

You can do anything with bayonets except sit on them.

Contaminated NEET says:

Fair. I was wrong about the 2016 Republican convention. But don’t forget that a few years later, the Lefties and their pet Blacks burned the country to the ground and chased Trump into his basement where he tweeted impotently.

Jim says:

> the Lefties and their pet Blacks burned the country to the ground and chased Trump into his basement where he tweeted impotently.

This time around, however, Trump immediately acted to secure the instruments of violence and coercion.

He has, so far, failed to secure the FBI, and the DoJ still looks a bit shaky, but he has Ice and the army.

We have seen a whole lot of wonderful purges at DoJ and FBI — definitely making worthwhile progress in bringing them to heel.

Have they come to heel? A grand jury will indict a ham sandwich if the prosecutor wants an indictment. The question is, is Pam Bondi willing and able to appoint prosecutors who want to prosecute?

Well, a whole lot of prosecutors were just purged for not wanting to prosecute, which is promising.

Jim says:

> we don’t have an alternative state religion. We don’t even have an embryo of an alternative state religion.

Sure we do: Two of them. Gafcon (to replace the postChristian Anglican and Episcopalian Churches) and the Crechurches, to replace the postChristian Evangelical Churches.

> Nobody actually believes in Christianity now. At least, nobody powerful, wealthy, or influential.

I am sure Pete Hegseth believes it. I don’t think he is in line to become King, but he is in line to become kingmaker.

Daddy Scarebucks says:

Gafcon (to replace the postChristian Anglican and Episcopalian Churches)

I was curious, so I checked their website, which appears to portray the movement as almost exclusively nonwhite. Out of 19 images with human subjects (i.e. excluding photos of cityscapes, flags, etc.) that I counted on their front page and About page, just 3 featured a European phenotype.

What am I missing here?

Mr.P says:

I did the same (went to its web site), saw the same. A read-more article title: “Ugandan Election Season” Ugh.

Jim says:

The Gafcon movement is largely the Black African Anglicanism. That is the power base and the numbers, because blacks had black privilege to not bow down and suck off gays.

On the other hand, within walking distance of my house, which is located in a very white area, there is a seldom used Church, one of whose very white pastors subscribes to Gafcon. Trouble is that the rather more distant Church in which the actual services are held are under the control of the usual.

Gafcon is overwhelmingly black. It is almost an appendage of the Anglican Church of Nigeria. But it is not black. Anglicans and Episcopalian races of all races subscribe.

Kevin C. says:

Gafcon is overwhelmingly black.… But it is not black.

How is this not a direct contradiction? Saying that it’s both black and yet not black at the same time?

Because what does it mean for a church to be a “black church,” if not that it’s majority black? And here, we’re talking not just majority black, but “overwhelmingly black.”

Jimmy says:

The continuing Anglicans are the gafcon of America. They, like the African gafcon, are a mixed bag, but the best of today’s American Christianity is found there. If there’s too be a remnant of the church of England left in a hundred years, it will be those two groups.

Pax Imperialis says:

Been having a series of interesting conversations with a “nazi”. Merchant Minute/Murdoch Murdoch/Mike Enoch crowd. Very smart, politically connected, responsive enough to not be a shill, is somewhat spiritually compromised. I have some inroads with him. How do I go about converting him?

The Cominator says:

Point out that most adherents of his ideology are brown? Why are all these nazis eating watermelon and fried chicken?

Pax Imperialis says:

It’s not even that he’s a “nazi” which compromises him. It’s his “Christian” faith which is insufficiently Jimian by a mile. He passes all the shill tests, is very based on the WQ, JQ, etc, and he knows that in doing so he is a very terrible “Christian” within his denomination. It’s people like this I fear getting into power. Attempting to restore the state without the right state religion will send us all to hell while still walking on this earth. I’m noticing this is a problem not specific to the Catholics, but the broader Nick Fuentes Generation (which ironically he agrees Fuentes is a gay communist).

Pax Imperialis says:

I personally know several of “our guys” who have spoken with JD Vance multiple times privately enough to know he is “our guy”. He is shockingly aware, more than what ties to Yarvin and Thiel would suggest. I hate to say it, but it appears that Trump is the major roadblock, so the real question is whether or not we can get Vance in 2028 and retain Hegseth.

Contaminated NEET says:

Vance made his name with a book begging the libs to be just a little less rough with the low-quality, low-class, despicable bottom quarter of Whites that he came from. C’mon guys, I know we suck, but if you squint, we’re kind of like those noble, wise, stoic, long-suffering Blacks you love so much, right?

Vance married and reproduced with an Indian, which he, and our rulers, saw as improving his status and escaping the filthy White Appalachian garbage pit.

Vance was a fierce Never-Trumper in 2016 who wanted to save us from an “American Hitler.”

The man has no principles and no beliefs other than that he personally should have more power and status. I despise him, and yet, he’d probably make a half-decent Stalin, and we need a Stalin. He’s got my vote. At least he’s not a Boomer.

The Cominator says:

Vance has three points of suspicion
1) Former Nevertrumper
2) His marriage
3) Conversion to Roman Catholicism (which as I and based camp often point out the Roman Catholic Church is a serious enemy of the right and by its nature an implacable one)

Still #3 could have been a networking thing, #2 could just be a purely personal flaw and #1 he genuinely could have changed we have no better alternative. He sounds like he understands the nature of power in a late republic at least.

Pax Imperialis says:

He is the American Putin. Extremely realist about the current time, hence why he’s “our guy”, but stumbling in the dark in regards to faith. Our only inroad with the administration, and perhaps the next regime, in terms of instituting the new state religion is via Hegseth. This creates the problem of Christian Nationalism being centered and subordinate in the wrong part of the government. Ideally we could somehow jump straight to Hegseth, but I worry he doesn’t have have a big enough political bone in his body for that.

Jim says:

> This creates the problem of Christian Nationalism being centered and subordinate in the wrong part of the government.

Is the Department of War the wrong part of the government? That depends how interesting the coming years become.

Adam says:

The visible Roman Catholic Church is indeed an enemy of the Right, but the visible Church is not the Church, rather it is a skin suit worn by Freemasons and Jews. The pope is the last true monarch in the world, and their goal since the French revolution has been to reduce the Papal state to a democracy. This is in its end stages with Vatican II’s ecumenical syndoism which the current fake pope is taking to their end game.

But they are not the Roman Catholic Church. The true Church is underground and has been so since 1965. There are roughly 4 million members of the true Church worldwide. They are so far to the right, including and particularly their bishops and priests, that they make Pinochet look like a poofter.

By the way, Jim, I had to let me old website go as the domain attacks got too much.

The Cominator says:

> But there is a secret magical catholic church that believes it both can and cannot judge the church authorities and that the pope both is and is not a living prophet
Yeah okay.

Daddy Scarebucks says:

Also, the Catholic Church is run by Jews, apparently. They’re getting blamed for a lot lately, but that’s one I never expected to hear.

So in summary, everything that appears to be wrong with Catholicism is really the Jews’ fault, and the real Catholic Church is both super secret and totally based, and even though this claim is impossible to verify and contradicts every real-world observation, you should totally trust me brah.

The Cominator says:

Its often some variation of both jews and freemasons… but always Catholics themselves are perfect and dindu nuffin.

A2 says:

I haven’t investigated the story of Vatican 2 but that was a disaster. Most popes after that have been useless or worse, though there have also been a few based ones, like John Paul II and Benedict XVI (unfortunately isolated and not enough of a politician). With that said, the Church surely needs a thorough house cleaning, curia and downwards. (Catholicism has also has raised an impressive collection of modern strongmen, like Franco, Pinochet, Mussolini and others.)

Are there any recent based Protestants? Ian Paisley, perhaps (RIP). Then who?

The Cominator says:

Ultramonatism Jesuits clerical celibacy existed before Vatican II. The idea that the church was based before Vatican II is a lie.

Your Uncle Bob says:

As with Donald Trump himself, who else have we got? Vance’s most likely competitor is Marco Rubio. Who is nowhere near as close to being ourguy.

The pajeet marriage is indeed troublesome. And yet he’s far firmer on the issue than Vivek or Nikki Haley. There’s some slim chance he can use his marriage for a Nixon goes to China moment; an actual Indian is guaranteed to flip sooner or later (see Dinesh D’Souza for one).

So I’ve been cheered lately to see Vance getting centered more in press conferences. As well as seeing Hegseth centered in the Venezuela operation. Early term Kremlinology was that Rubio was favored by Trump; now it’s not as likely.

Henman says:

ADL hints that inconvenient views on the JQ exist.
MEMRI hints that inconvenient views on the IQ exist.
BIBLE hints that inconvenient views on the WQ exist.
Leftist WikiPedia’s labeling of something as “racist content” hints that well articulated, debated, recorded, held common, and inconvenient views on the RQ exist.

Here we see the world’s AI’s being seeded with arbitrarily distorted, lobotomized, canceled, and brownwashed versions of Inconvenient Truths and Historical Facts.


WP: The_Pile_(dataset)
Some potential sub-datasets were excluded for various reasons, such as the US Congressional Record, which was excluded due to its racist content.[1]


[1] https://arxiv.org/pdf/2101.00027
The Pile: An 800GB Dataset of Diverse Text for Language Modeling

… we also decided to exclude several data sets for other reasons, which we document here for transparency:

1. US Congressional Record. The official record of the United States Congress (1800 today) records important points of debate at the highest levels of American government. It reflects the opinions and biases of the political class over the past 200 years, including segregationism and xenophobia. In particular, we found a large quantity of extremely racist content that we did not feel appropriate for a dataset intended for general-purpose language modeling.

2. Fanfiction. … logistical grounds.

3. Literotica. … undesirable biases … contains a significant amount of stereotyping, including racial fetishes.

Self-disproving basis…


Another concern is that training such models on
huge datasets will almost inevitably require them to
have undesirable content in their training sets, such
as that promoting hateful stereotypes (Christian,
2020). Having models output undesirable content
is, by definition, undesirable, but we believe that
attacking this problem from the training set side
is unproductive and ultimately leads us away from
optimal solutions. If a person reads a racist piece
of content, they do not then immediately adopt its
racist views–they may be capable of doing so, but
can decide not to. This capacity to understand undesirable content and then decide to ignore it is an
essential future research direction. Not only would
this allow models to use “dirtier” data with less
concern, but also to use their gained knowledge
to better understand what not to do. We recognize
that, despite recent progress in human-guided learning (Stiennon et al., 2020), the technology is not
yet at this stage, and have thus made a number of
editorial decisions as described in this paper. However, this approach seems essential to the future
of these models and AI more broadly, and more
research is needed.

Brian Christian. 2020. The Alignment Problem: Machine Learning and Human Values. WW Norton & Company.

yewotm8 says:

…we believe that attacking this problem from the training set side is unproductive and ultimately leads us away from optimal solutions…

This capacity to understand undesirable content and then decide to ignore it is an essential future research direction. Not only would this allow models to use “dirtier” data with less concern, but also to use their gained knowledge to better understand what not to do.

How much of this is to improve the quality of the output, and how much is to avoid having to expose themselves to thoughtcrimes while creating a hardcoded list of them?

Brubaker says:

Peter Brimelow VDARE via Tucker
https://x.com/TuckerCarlson/status/2013333159249686706

“You’re rebranding a guy who used to be one of the most influential white nationalists as merely being a persecuted activist opposing illegal immigration.”

“Peter Brimelow was hunted down by his enemies who destroyed his life through lawfare for exposing the amount of invaders they were importing and no one in the right wing did a fucking thing to either help him or to get retribution.”

Any questions?
x.com/zadokq244514/status/1694077600807952400
x.com/The_JBS/status/2013363929775243321

thenewamerican.com/world-news/great-replacement-this-country-imported-an-entire-city-of-third-worlders-in-2025/

The UN Deception (2001)
x.com/linqsikks/status/1950589058843042207

The Left discarded arguments in the 1960s. They adopted the tactics of moral blackmail, bribery, riots, and implicit violence. You can win every debate and still lose your country if the other side is a dedicated minority organized to seize power.

A lot of lib argumentation the past 15 years hasn’t depended on making a strong case factually or even coming up with a compelling ideological narrative but rather creating the illusion of consensus. That’s why cancel culture took on such force – they didn’t really care if you believed what they said or were able to show something was false or unsubstantiated. What mattered was maintaining the illusion of consensus because that was really the basis of their power and legitimacy. ‘We all agree,’ etc. Once ‘everyone agrees’ everything else is incidental detail and you don’t even have to bother litigating the particulars.

Sher Singh says:

https://substack.com/@singh47/note/p-185192747?utm_source=notes-share-action&r=a9v3n

Thoughts on a sort of hoeflation index which shatters the normie prosperity myth?

You adjust GDP/per capita for female working & education.
Gives a clear picture of the decline of young men.

TheDividualist says:

Interestingly, the very mainstream sounding historian Mike Duncan said something similar in the History of Rome podcast. What Romulus had was a band of thugs, not stable long-term solution. They got real lucky that their second king was Numa, the religion-builder. If you have a religion first, you can always have an army later, doesn’t work the other way around. So this does not even count much as controversial even from the mainstream viewpoint, I think.

American civil religion was always a specific and selective combination of the religions of the Constitution and Christianity, I think, but this ran out of steam. I think what, say, Tom Clancy (author of Executive Order etc.) believed in, does not exist anymore. To be fair it was an illusion in his time, too, but a powerful one.

The Cominator says:

Its funny in the I Claudius novel (I didn’t know Robert Graves was a fag till after I read it but its still good) I also remember that Claudius also remarked that Romulus was in reality basically a bandit chieftain (I believe he was remarking about Augustus had originally wanted to be called Caesar Romulus instead of Augustus).

The Cominator says:

FYI very interesting information I just found out.

As of last summer and Basel III physical gold and silver (both) now count as tier one banking capital. And this was not widely announced as I just found out.

In effect
1) Banks no longer have to hold treasuries they can dump them and switch to gold and silver bullion.
2) The gold (with silver, which is a good thing because I think the gold standard fails but bimettalism is great) standard has been quietly reintroduced in international trade and almost nobody knows about it yet.

The Cominator says:

No commentary on this I know its not the main topic but I would think that gold and silver have been quietly almost secretly restored as the currency of international trade would be a subject that would get some attention…

Jim says:

Yes, that merits a big post.

Mayflower Sperg says:

Shhh… Governments around the world want to buy up as much gold as they can before the masses realize that their savings are about to become worthless.

On the plus side, Millennials and Zoomers will see their college debts disappear. On the down side, they didn’t acquire any skills in college that anyone would pay gold or Bitcoin for.

Neurotoxin says:

“Governments around the world want to buy up as much gold as they can before the masses realize that their savings are about to become worthless.”

That makes sense. But then why encourage banks to buy up gold (by designating it as Tier 1 capital)?

These two actions directly contradict each other… unless governments are planning on seizing banks eventually.

Which would not be a surprising thing for control-freak governments to do.

A more pedestrian explanation is that governments are not unitary actors, which of course they aren’t. Still, this move is a surprising U-turn. Previous Basel agreements had sovereign bonds as Tier 1 capital because that increased the demand for government bonds (also, they were “safe,” LOL). Adding gold to the mix should reduce the demand for their bonds – maybe not a lot, but still. So yeah, weird.

The Cominator says:

> Thinks banks and the governments are different
You should know better by now…

Henman says:

Catholic James Fishback endorsed by Tucker, Asmongold, Sneako, Shroyer, Gaetz, HeritageFoundation, PatrickBetDavid, Groypers, and PastorJohnson for Governor-Florida. Check the groupies. Based ascendancy nationwide.
https://x.com/KingstonBooke2/status/2012648423846031749
https://x.com/Fishback2026/status/2008680239765897439
https://x.com/joanfromdc/status/2012619305720954973
x.com/TuckerCarlson/status/2009686610133319736
x.com/j_fishback/status/2008718554166948309
x.com/j_fishback/status/1992953852266754110
x.com/KingstonBooke2/status/2013458321957658682
x.com/notsourced/status/2012177676350419287
x.com/FishbackRapid/status/2011890358280716449
x.com/AFpost/status/2009699945709023575
x.com/Women4Fishback/status/2000045692610298090
fishback2026.com/
secure.winred.com/fishback-for-governor/donate-today
Get this guy into a FL Primary debate!

Hoe Tax, WQ Cap, ftw
x.com/joanfromdc/status/2011168558303289348
x.com/j_fishback/status/2011985905570234655
x.com/notsourced/status/2011902964890255406

Women: Make us preggo housewives again!

Trump: Move Bitch, Get Out Da Way
x.com/Neccccy/status/2013618732283642021
Starmer: Keeps getting wrecked in public
x.com/Neccccy/status/2013586462805987585
Erika: Internet dredged up her past CIA briefing video, and this coincidence
x.com/OwenShroyer1776/status/2013714347462189408
Tucker: Speech re Jay Collins and Steven Meiner
x.com/FishbackRapid/status/2009398613101957259
Fuentes: Manifest Destiny, and me on Rumble talking my 1st Miami Club trip
x.com/frontierism_/status/2011540358342320510
Negroes: We finna become learingd
x.com/yoxics/status/2011259902938005602

The Cominator says:

I’m in Florida Fishback is a meme candidate whether you like him or not.

Henman says:

Well maybe. But memes push windows. So if the window is forced to slide to the right as a result, that’s a win, even if not a hard one.
What he’s allowed to say and run is already huge compared to before the Left culled Biden.
He’s getting big name podcasts, which results in lots more donors, so not counting him out, nor his window sliding, yet.

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