Trump finally moves to make peace in the Ukraine

The Biden regime promised the Ukraine a lot of weapons. Trump has relaxed secondary sanctions, something from which I have personally benefited, has not authorised any weapons, but did not, at first, cancel Biden authorised supplies. Now, as part of his program of giving warriors a more significant role in the military leadership, has authorised them to hang on to their stuff — that the Biden promises do not empower the imperial war faction, the “democratic” regime change faction, to disarm the US army in favor our proxies. No one clearly knows how much this is cutting the Ukraine’s weapons supplies. No one clearly knows what weapons, and how many, the US still has. (Recall that when Hamas attacked Israel, Israel discovered that their capacity to arm the reservists was crippled, because a lot of their weapons had quietly wandered off to the Ukraine. They did not know how much had been lost until they actually tried to put boots on the ground.) But from the Ukrainian point of view, it looks like a total stop of anti air supplies, and a radical reduction of ground weapons — looks like they are not going to get any more 155mm shells.

The Ukraine army is a US armed, US funded, and US commanded operation. It has long had large numbers of US military personnel in non front line roles, notably in Avdeyevka , though they skedaddled once the place came under heavy bombardment. The Greatest Ukrainian Counter Offensive was carried out in an idiotic way because the military planning was done by the State Department which pushed back hard on Pentagon and Ukrainian advice and effectively overruled them. And this operation has not only disarmed the US, Europe, and Nato, it substantially disarmed Israel. And now warrior officers in the US want to rearm, or at least avoid being further disarmed.

The Ukrainians and the Europeans were not informed of this in advance, or were informed in a misleading and confusing way — probably because no one in America quite knows how drastic the cutback is. The American government is itself misled and confused.

The US could turn off Ukrainian capability in an instant. Just turn off the targeting information from US military satellites and order Musk to flick the Starlink switch.

The US, the Ukraine, and Europe have long been begging for a temporary ceasefire, a frozen conflict, and are now begging harder. Russia starting 2022 said it would not put up with low level warfare any longer and would no longer accept a frozen conflict that can at any time be partially unfrozen to whatever extent the US finds convenient. Russia wants actual peace, and is prepared to go to actual war to get it. Low level warlike acts would meet a full on war response. This was yet another Rusian red line, and Russia has long been announcing red lines, and the West has long been casually crossing those red lines with no consequences: Low level warlike acts continued, most notoriously the shelling of civilians in Donbas, US shells, fired by US artillery, with the Ukrainians actually pulling the trigger — but most of those Ukrainians being in walking distance of the US military facility in Avdiivka full of US personnel supplying the artillery, the shells, and the targeting information.

And then this low level warfare met high level warfare.

The US State Department now has no choice but to accept the peace deal. A neutral, Finlandised, rump Ukraine, with rights and freedom for Russian speakers in the Ukraine and the Russian Orthodox Church. The most recent peace offer from Russia is harsher than the peace deal offered in the recent peace talks on 2025 June second, in that they have now redefined the EU as a military alliance, not just an economic agreement, so the most recent iteration of the deal excludes rump Ukraine form Nato.

If the US does not agree to that deal very soon, the next offer will be the same, plus the Ukrainian Black Sea coast becomes part of Russia.

As the remaining Ukrainian army gets smaller and smaller, the term’s of Russia’s peace offer get harsher and harsher.

The problem is that the satraps we have appointed in the Ukraine have become immensely wealthy, and want to become even richer, Any peace will lead to a Ukrainian government that will certainly attempt to confiscate their wealth, and probably want to hang them, so if allowed, they will force the last Ukrainian into the meat grinder, and then retire to the South of France. So the US will have to threaten them with flicking the switch on Starlink. In which case, we can expect the “stab in the back” narrative. In any situation where we get peace in the Ukraine before every Ukrainian city is levelled, and every ordinary Ukrainian dead, we are going to get a “stab in the back” narrative.

Because a huge part of the American government is still in impenetrably deep delusion, any policy based on reality may well cause a severe split within the Trump administration.

Trump has done far better in exerting control over the American presidency this time than first time around, but he still, fundamentally, is not recruiting his own men. Hitler had his own counter establishment, and simply plonked it into the key power positions, the control of internal violence, and from there all power positions. Trump does not have his own men.

The total destruction of the Ukraine, and the annihilation of every Ukrainian not privileged and powerful enough to be able to escape, is from Russia’s point of view, not a bad outcome. It will be an educational outcome for countries near Russia that are playing ball with Russia’s enemies, such as Azerbaijan playing ball with Turkey and Israel. It will stiffen people’s spines against color revolution, as it has stiffened Georgian spines. For the US, however, it would be a bad outcome. Not to mention it is not a pleasant outcome for Ukrainians.

285 comments Trump finally moves to make peace in the Ukraine

Bix Nudelmann says:

…most notoriously the shelling of civilians in Donbas, US shells, fired by US artillery, with the Ukrainians actually pulling the trigger — but most of those Ukrainians being in walking distance of the US military facility in Avdiivka full of US personnel supplying the artillery, the shells, and the targeting information.

Jesus man, do you actually know this? Don’t selfdox or anything, but CAN you point us to where and how you saw this (very reasonable suspicion) confirmed from outside?

hcm says:

Relevant from X: “NATO personnel drowning accidentally in the Red Sea. NATO personnel getting sucked into quicksand. NATO personnel vanishing without a trace on a hike in the desert. NATO personnel having heart attacks while deployed to an unknown theater. NATO personnel getting burnt to a crisp in a helicopter training accident. NATO personnel dying in a car crash in Poland. NATO personnel falling into a ravine while mountain climbing.”

Varna says:

Negro-spotting on the Kiev side of the conflict; Russian-language media, AI can translate or summarize:
https://news.ru/russia/bojcy-vdv-likvidirovali-temnokozhego-inostrannogo-naemnika-v-zone-svo
https://24tv.ua/ru/temnokozhie-naemniki-teper-shturmujut-vsu-na-dnepre-kogo-beret-na-vojnu-rossija-24-kanal_n2502455
https://www.gazeta.ru/army/news/2024/04/27/22884679.shtml
https://aif.ru/politics/world/-lovyat-rabov-na-ulicah-kieva-poyavilis-temnokozhie-voenkomy-naemniki

Back in the 2008 5-day (3-day in reality) campaign against Georgia, Russian forces also reported finding blacks in Georgian uniforms among the dead.

Bix Nudelmann says:

Could DC and Moscow, together, somehow arrange a “golden bridge for crooks”, so that the Kiev Kleptocracy can make off to Italy/Florida/wherever with their families and Bitcoin in as smooth and organized a manner possible? And if not, why not?

Not “buy them out” or even recruit them to the Russian side, but just help them all quickly escape to neo-Argentina before the Ukrainian little people are all dead?

(Real question, because I’m fucking trying here.)

Jim says:

First we need a golden bridge for the crooks who lost Russia from the Global American Empire to the Russians by robbing the place blind during the 1990s, and started this war so that they could resume operations.

The problem is that they are a major and odious part of the Thermidorean coalition. They think that at any moment now Russia is going to fall, and they are going to move back in and liberate the Russians from being oppressed by their oppressive Russianness, also liberate them from their assets. Those Russians will own nothing and be happy, happy to be freed from being Russian. And if Trump shuts down the crooks who have made the Global American Empire odious, they are going to scream that they were stabbed in the back right on the edge of victory.

The Cominator says:

The deportations bill has passed let them scream.

Jim says:

The bill provides detention facilities, modelled after Florida’s Alligator Alcatraz, to detain over a hundred thousand illegals. Projected residence time in Alligator Alcatraz is only a couple of weeks, so projected deportations around two million per year. Which is not a lot. Takes ten or twenty years to make a dent at that rate.

The Cominator says:

If millions a year arrested many will leave on their own.

Mossadnik says:

projected deportations around two million per year. Which is not a lot. Takes ten or twenty years to make a dent at that rate.

If the American Right spends the next two decades worried primarily about deporting the illegal garbage, while mostly ignoring the issue of collapsing reproduction among Real Americans, then by the time the deportations are over, America (ironically) will no longer be a recognizably white country.

Should continue removing all the garbage, of course, but also simultaneously solve the WP. If, however, the idea is, “First we remove the garbage, and only then we will worry about reproduction,” yeah, that’s not a viable strategy for saving civilization, unless you can actually remove the garbage in a few short years rather than a couple of decades.

White people don’t magically fall from the sky – they pop out of white pussies. Or not. If your people are now dying faster than they are born, which they are, then you are in the process of exiting history, scheduled to be replaced by someone else.

The homogeneous societies of Japan and Korea do not have a mass illegal immigration problem, yet they are dying, and are replacing themselves with foreigners anyway – slowly at the moment, but the trend is clear.

Should reproduce while there are still enough young people around, rather than listening to the pied pipers of “technological singularity,” who are mostly gay Jewish demon worshippers full of shit.

The Cominator says:

Fertility collapse by itself is bad but would not genetic contanimation of the smaller pool of Americans that would be left without the invasion.

Jim says:

> Should continue removing all the garbage, of course, but also simultaneously solve the WP.

As removal of illegals goes through, the left blackpills, and more things become thinkable.

First step in solving the woman problem is removing all these makework sinecures for women. And first step in removing all these makework jobs for women is restoring open source.

Ubuntu has become enemy software, it is being windowized, running software that is open source in legal form, but not in substance, spirit, and intent, and forcing this software on you as bloatware which you cannot avoid, nor avoid the ensuing automatic updates.

Removing all these makework sinecures is going to break the left. Then actually effective solutions to the woman problem will become thinkable.

FrankNorman says:

Part of the solution will need to be making male income high enough for single-income families to be normal again.

Jim says:

“Income” is misleading — because we have a fake GDP economy and a fake cpi. The fake GDP economy is parasitic on the real GDP economy and has grown to a level that is destroying it. Most “GDP” comes from the big blue megalopoli, but anything that you actually use usually comes from somewhere else, and travels to you by routes that bypass and route around the big blue megalopoli. The big blue megalopoli were built by legacy Americans at transport nodes — the port of New York and the port of Los Angeles. Thus we are abandoning an enormous amount of valuable infrastructure because overrun by plains apes and Harvard criminals. Most of your actual stuff and actual services are built around dodging parasitism and predation by the fake GDP economy. When legacy Americans lost control of that critical capital, it ceased to be valuable, much as an open source project such as Ubuntu or Mozilla becomes worthless a little while after it acquires a woke code of conduct.

Nikolai says:

100% agree

Mass deportations are good and important and I fully support them. Though the immigration monomania I see on the e-right is getting tiresome.

The left is evil for a thousand reasons and mass importing foreigners is only one of them. Black criminality has ruined many of our greatest cities, feminism makes a normal marriage almost impossible, soft prostitution has increased by an order of magnitude in my lifetime, wealth redistribution and regulations make you feel poor even when you earn 150k, sodomy is celebrated by every major institution, the state has abducted children from their parents in order to mutilate them in horrific sex change surgeries, the US helped an Al Qaeda offshoot take over Syria and ethnically cleanse the Christian population etc.

If we get rid of Mexicans and Indians and don’t solve the other problems, we’ll basically become white Japan. And while white Japan is an unimaginable improvement over the US under Biden, it would still be a sick and decaying society.

The Cominator says:

White Japan can recover. Globohomostan can’t recover…

Jim says:

Japan is reaching the critical level where they are no longer capable of defending Japan, and are under increasingly severe economic pressure to bring in mystery meat to replace the missing grand children.

The Cominator says:

1) Japan is a vassal state of America and I doubt China or Russia wants to invade anytime soon so if they get a reasonable government in America they won’t have to defend it or be pressured to bring in immigrants. So they’ll be fine as long as they say no, unfortunately they’ve let in some 3rd worlders lately. Nothing like America in the last 20 years but still some. Japan though they don’t have nukes also could also absolutely make working nuclear weapons in about a week. I’m not sure we could still build nukes if we wanted to but Japan can.
2) They can as they always have automate any jobs they don’t absolutely need to have done and have a human to do.
I dont generally like mustache man but he was right (probably not quite in the way he meant) that the last high nation to resist racial defilement would inevitably come to dominate the world. That country is clearly going to be Asiatic of some kind and not white.

Jim says:

> the last high nation to resist racial defilement would inevitably come to dominate the world.

Nah, the first majority human nation to fix the woman problem will dominate the world. Which might be Afghanistan, which for all its good qualities is very far from being a high nation, due to the detrimental consequences of the Mohameddan forcible arabisation policy.

Afghanistan is all desert or semidesert, but has an immense amount of water in the form of snow melt, which every spring runs off it to the neighbouring countries, who have water agreements between each other that since the Soviet takeover have ignored Afghanistan, because it did not have a government capable of controlling the flow of water. Now it does, and its neighbours are screaming and threatening water war. They will lose, because Afghans have sons and they do not.

Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

If Pakistan or iran or China or India invade Afghanistan today they will lose; but I don’t see them being any more dominant on the world stage than the Chin or the Egyptians were; and they’re no imperial power.

Jim says:

> [Afghanistan is] no imperial power.

Wait until their population grows seven fold, and everyone else’s population halves. They will never become an imperial power, but they are already a colonial power, in the sense that people keep coming out of Afghanistan, and bringing Afghan governance with them, to the great dismay of all their neighbours. It is like Americans settling what was, at the time, Mexico. That is just what happens when the social technology for marriage and family works: Colonialism just happens.

When a higher civilisation has successful reproductive social technology, it is going settle the stars.

Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

I feel we are being precious with ‘dominate the world’ then.

In the event of Planet of The Afghans, you would have multitudes of squabbling tinpots, not something you could dignify as ‘the afghan order’, except in a generic sense of the state of affairs as such.

When the smartest people in the world figured out how to turn burning coal into motive force, it took less than a lifetime for them to subjugate the entire rest of world. Do the pashtun Sterling and Maxwells exist? Dominance is prefigured by capacity for methods of dominance.

Jim says:

> In the event of Planet of The Afghans, you would have multitudes of squabbling tinpots,

No you would not. You would have Pashtunwali, which is the Afghan theory, practice, culture, and customs for maintaining liberty and order and drastically limiting the power of those squabbling tinpots. There is a whole lot of good stuff in Pashtunwali. Mohammedanism leads to squabbling tinpots. Pastunwali is an important and effective remedy for this problem.

Jim says:

> Do the pashtun Sterling and Maxwells exist? Dominance is prefigured by capacity for methods of dominance.

The capacity to reproduce is a key that that guarantees eventual dominance over any groups that do not have this capacity. Which could result in planet of the plains apes, with only Afghanistan and its colonies still standing.

JustAnotherGuy says:

Wasn’t that the role of Dot Indians? Become a colonial power by exporting their population and traditions and what not like they did with JD Vance? Now it seems we are all in the same predicament but pockets of man who have escaped female emancipation.

Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

(Obviously, of course, the most important method is ability to show up on game day in the first place.)

Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

>There is a whole lot of good stuff in Pashtunwali.

Granted. Never the less, Afghanistan is what it is.

A2 says:

Seems like Dune done right? Or at least done over.

FrankNorman says:

>>>The capacity to reproduce is a key that that guarantees eventual dominance over any groups that do not have this capacity. Which could result in planet of the plains apes, with only Afghanistan and its colonies still standing.

Those “plains apes” are not feeding themselves, Jim. The current population level of Subsaharan Africa is sustained largely by Western food aid. Take that away, and it will probably crash back to precolonial levels.

Jim says:

In seventy five years, there will be room enough in America for a hunter gatherer population. Also, genetic IQ falling — we now have measures of genetic IQ. In seventy five years, white population mean IQ falls to African levels. Female preference for criminal men. Most criminals are criminals because stupid, not because they are sufficiently smart to break the law and know when they can likely get away with it.

Fidelis says:

FWIU, not that dire. In white population much of the phenotype retard genes would be new and not so fixed. Could be reversed in a timeline only slightly longer than it was implemented.

Seventy five years is about the timeline of full and total emancipation to now, give or take. We’re not going to have the entire race gone from disgenics and missing children in that timescale, would need another generation or two.

More likely is that sometime between now and plains ape american continent, the dysgenia, lack of manpower, and lack of ability to coordinate, means that a patrilineal warrior society re-emerges and is unable to be stopped by the nanny state, in fact rolls over the nanny state. What race manages this, who knows. Maybe whites will be a remnant genetic component to the next great race, like the romano-british were to the anglo-saxon. I just strongly doubt we get reset all the way back to plains ape.

The Cominator says:

Mormon fundamentalist inherit the continent. Was Joseph Smith a con artist or a prophet, well strangely he might turn out to have been both…

Jim says:

Based Camp have a program, but their religion (fertility plus plus embryo selection based on polygenic score) lacks key elements to make it a goer. Men will pursue a successful reproductive strategy if given half a chance, but females want to fuck mister one in thirty, and it is very difficult to restrain them from doing so. So parents have to make sure that their first sexual experience is with someone who will stick around and is in a position to look after them. Which means quite extraordinary coercion against women for late virgin marriage, as for sixteenth to eighteenth century England, or very young girls have to marry economically established men — Greeks and Romans during the period that they were rising typically had men in their late twenties or early thirties marrying girls twelve to fifteen. So you need a faith that justifies one of these, and preferably both of these. They worry about “pedophilia”. Any marriage likely to lead to successful reproduction eventually is not “pedophilia”. Aisha, married at six, consummated at nine, gave Mohammed six children — an excellent outcome for both of them. If everyone married off their daughters at nine, we would not have a problem. For their sort-of-Christian religion to succeed, needs to justify extraordinary coercion and/or very early marriage with a substantial age gap, and preferably both. Their synthetic religion is insufficiently based. Women are the weaker vessel, and need to be protected from themselves.

Very early virgin marriage is also inherently eugenic, since parents are going to select a suitor based on his early economic success and competence, to which polygenic scores are inherently a quite imperfect approximation. Though nine is a bit early — you want to keep the age gap from getting too large. The Greek and Roman solution is about right, though a substantial minority of girls start getting frisky alarmingly early, so you need a social environment where marriage at nine is normal but not the norm. That, or chaining them to the water heater till they reach marriageable age is quite normal. Or better, both strategies are normalized.

Your Uncle Bob says:

Mormon fundamentalist inherit the continent.

Amish still have them beat by a mile. Somehow they’re the Invisible Men of the US, no side talks about them much. But average seven kids per family, and they’ve kept it up for centuries. Math for tfr gets a little complicated because a few of those boil off (10-15%?, but that’s still good compared to everyone else), but then some of those have a few kids out in the world also.

So there’s something there worth copying. And they’re doing it without any Kronos syndrome, younger sons still get a livelihood and a wife.

There is the open question of whether pacifists survive the dawn of the plains ape. My unsourced hunch is they discover self defense when they really have to, or failing that get tax farmed by some less evil and more foresighted Humongous or Chevauchee. But both of these scenarios are open to debate.

Jim says:

Amish boiloff is a program for selectively breeding females for good conduct — which enables them to sustain fertility within a society hostile to reproduction. They have been at it for centuries, which gives them an enormous edge in surviving the current environment. But I don’t expect the current environment to last much longer. In the new environment, they may well face a problem that pacifists get their womenfolk abducted.

Mayflower Sperg says:

I read that the Amish all bought guns after the schoolhouse massacre, when they suddenly realized that the Anglo state could no longer protect them.

That’s the easy part; organizing armed men into an effective fighting force is much harder.

The Cominator says:

“Amish still have them beat by a mile. Somehow they’re the Invisible Men of the US, no side talks about them much. But average seven kids per family, and they’ve kept it up for centuries. Math for tfr gets a little complicated because a few of those boil off (10-15%?, but that’s still good compared to everyone else), but then some of those have a few kids out in the world also.”

Don’t think Amish would be all too good at fight a war since their interpratation of Christianity is pacifistic, this may have been revised or eroded but doesn’t put them in a good position. Mormons do not have such a pacifistic doctrine (though they’d be atypical among armies in history for rigid clean living as normally warriors are not so much like that but Cromwell’s New Model Army at least was).

Varna says:

Just checked out the Russian-language equivalent to the Financial Times, “Kommersant”.

Apparently the Sverdlovsk Oblast (Ural mountain chain region, the borderland between European Russia and Siberia), has decided to import “up to a million” dot indians, sri lankans, and north koreans.
https://www.kommersant.ru/doc/7873008

Expert are mulling how to help south asians adapt en masse to what is practically western siberia.

Of course, as with any institutional plans, especially Slavic ones, just because they’re saying they’re going to do it, and soon, doesn’t mean it will actually happen, but still. Curious.

Second piece of news. Belgorod oblast, that keeps getting poked by Ukraine (as opposed to Kursk oblast that got invaded), is having important men investigated for corruption, to do with diverting money from the official purpose of building defenses.
https://www.kommersant.ru/doc/7873950

In the end of the article it is stated that important men in Kursk oblast also got the axe, for failing to prepare adequately, and thus enabling an easier ukrainian incursion. A “valuable witness” was also the former Russian transportation minister, who got fired like five days ago, and instantly shot himself.

The major difference from the Ukranian side, in the sense of corruption that leads to battlefield losses, is that apparently on the Kyiiieffvf side 90% of the stuff disappears, not just skimming off the top, and also in the end it’s really nobody’s fault, at least nobody important.

Cloudswrest says:

There seems to be a secondary correlation with reproduction besides feminism, but perhaps they are related.

There is an *extreme* correlation between having a purely materialistic, biological, genetic conception of human life and being unable to reproduce.

It’s like a feature built into reality, the ultimate irony.

For the most part, only people who believe in souls pass on genes.

From here: https://x.com/Empty_America/status/1944599975607890403

Contaminated NEET says:

We’re not even getting 2 million deportations a year. No chance. Even that inadequate number is a fantasy.

Jim says:

They just voted through preparation for expelling the illegals. Alligator Alcatraz reveals serious intent and competence to do it. Watch the Alligator Alcatraz videos. It is black pilling the left, and white pilling us.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itOPjq3y7jg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPmHAoYfCdM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3FArf3Crzk

Alf says:

Clearly we need the current measures x10 to really make a difference. But that Alligator Alcatraz even exists -built in 8 days, capacity over 100.000- is a huge white pill and unthinkable still in Europe. You can just *do* things, including mass deportations!

Jim says:

> Clearly we need the current measures x10 to really make a difference

Ice is being expanded by a factor of ten. Ice is going to be the fourth largest military in the world.

The trouble is that importing the illegals was an enormous project, on which a stupendous amount of money was spent, and deporting them is going to be a considerably more enormous project. It is always easier and cheaper to destroy than to build.

Karl says:

It depends how unpleasant a stay in Alligator Alcatraz and the deportation process are. If it is unpleasant enough people will flee to avoid deportation.

jo blo says:

Those Thermidoreans are exactly the ones who should be left screaming after the war ends – not like they have clout with the current USA administration. Give the Ukranian elites safe refuge, conditional on writing memoirs detailing how they were fooled/ forced into cooperating with western ahole elites.

Putin seems the most “agreement capable” for providing such guarantees, and Russia would benefit by causing distrust between western crooks and those who might help them with future looting schemes.

Anon says:

I read this in X and I howled with laughter

“One of the most blackpilling things is that despite how patently odious of a leader and a human he is, and how obviously terrible his policies and proposals and actions are, Trump always wins. It always turns out in his favor. He fucks up one thousand times in a row, He is largely reviled, he is a joke, and yet somehow at the end of the fucking day he gets his way. He will be sitting at the resolute desk tomorrow signing this fucking cataclysm for the 4th like he promised.

God is real and He hates us”

Jim says:

Anon quoting a leftist from X

“One of the most black pilling thing is that […] God is real and He hates us”

With every Trump win, the left is demoralised, and the Stockholme syndrome eases on the right.

The left plan was always to replace us. The deportations bill has them sagging.

But the real problem is fertility. Without grandchildren, we will be replaced.

Jehu says:

God is indeed real, and if you’re a godless heathen, He does indeed hate you. Atheists like the Amalekites are hated far worse than even worshippers of Devils like Molech. But God is way more forgiving than I for those that repent.

suones says:

Nitpick: Deus pater never hates you, *can never* hate you. He loves you unconditionally like a Father loves his young child. Even if the child pisses on Him. It is the *child* who turns away from his Father towards demons who hate him and will destroy him body and soul. Semitic theology may imply otherwise (I’ll leave Eli to elaborate), but Aryans are very clear on this matter.

Even at the last moment, all the Kauravas had to do to avoid getting slaughtered was to reconcile with their cousin brothers and give them some token land. Krishna loved them dearly too, perhaps more dearly than he loved the Pandavas.

somedude says:

Loved the Kauravas More than he loved the pandavas? You’re thinking of Karna, whom he might have loved more than the Pandavas

suones says:

It’s not just Karna. Krishna’s story is full of episodes when he obstinately refused to strike down unrighteous men, including Shishupal and his famous refusal to take up weapons in the Mahabharata. Also offering the choice of his own mentorship (only) vs his whole army to the Kauravas and Pandavas both. He kept looking for a compromise even when it was extremely obvious that the Kauravas were in the wrong and influenced by evil. And the compromise would have been extremely lopsided in the Kauravas’ favour, especially in the short term. But they were not only evil, but stupid as well. Why did Krishna do this? Because he loved the Kauravas too! He did not want them to die uselessly. It was they who abandoned Him, and not vice versa. The war was, as expected, a shitshow all around, and everyone lost value in it. The only lasting gain was an orderly transition to Kali Yuga (Iron Age) without the sort of bloody collapse that finished off all the other Bronze Age civilisations (other than China).

Travis says:
Flatiron says:

The world will put a boundary on Putin’s Irredentalism and Tsarist Conquests.
Please be aware that it was Russia’s Forces and Proxies proper who fired the first real international cross-border shots back in 2014, not the little bands of wannabe Civil-War maggots that were running around trying to start shit *inside* Ukraine at that time. Those news reports are still out there confirming this.

Jim says:

Flatiron:

> Please be aware that it was Russia’s Forces and Proxies proper who fired the first real international cross-border shots back in 2014

You are in violation of the moderation policy, but allowing this through because some pushback to this post has to be allowed. Please conform to the moderation policy and get white listed.

Nazis in the Ukraine have been a US proxy militia since 1944. So the first shots were fired when Nazis and Jews made a coup in the Ukraine and immediately implemented a totalitarian terror state, to which there was much spontaneous resistance. The resistance was not, for a long time, a Russian proxy — which fact, lack of support from Russia, they complained of bitterly and stridently for a long time. So following the 2014 coup, there was a long period of US proxies attacking Ukrainians, with Russian proxies in no way involved, except in the sense that the resistance was disproportionately coming from Ukrainians who spoke Russian.

The militias that spontaneously organised to resist the US proxy attack still have a great deal of power in the now Russian territories, and are still an important fighting force in the war. In contrast, the Ukraine is being micromanaged by the US, as we saw in the Greatest Ukrainian Counteroffensive, which was rendered even more disastrous by US State Department micro management, which overruled both Ukrainian and Pentagon generals.

Flatiron says:

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Oog en Hand says:

“It will be hell. When Muslims conquer land, one of the first things they do is to destroy everything from the Age of Ignorance, “al-Jahiliyah”’ (جاهلية), aka the time before Islam. All painting, literature, art, etc. that has no value for the Muslim (monetary or military value) will be destroyed. There is no such concept in Christianity, and no civilization has done more to protect the history of humanity around the world than Christendom.

Islam always imposed a very harsh arabification on their conquered peoples. You have to pray in Arabic, read the Qur’an in Arabic, dress like an Arab desert dweller etc. The native language of the Egyptian people (Copts) that built the world-renowned pyramids is now dead, after Muslims cut the tongue of every Copt that spoke Coptic around the Muslim Arabs, who were afraid that the Copts would curse them. Turks imposed the same rule, but were afraid that the Byzantines would curse them silently, so Turks have amulets of blue eyes, especially on children (still sold in Turkey today), to protect them against “the evil eye” from the Byzantines whose women they had raped and wealth plundered”

Could someone verify this? It would mean that Muslims are red-pilled on the issue of language.

Mossadnik says:

If the civilized races don’t restore the social technologies that will allow them to breed (and to remove kebab), they may as well become Muslims.

Faggots tell you not to worry about below replacement fertility, since it can “always be reversed.” No, if you don’t take the necessary steps now, you will not be able to reverse it when most of your society is old people who depend on 85 IQ brownoids for everything.

Europe is not unlikely to become Muslim, so should plan to transfer its art overseas to increase the chance of preserving it for posterity.

If the seeds of Restoration are not firmly planted now, there will be no “later.”

Contaminated NEET says:

Overseas? Lol. Nowhere is immune to the coming dark age. China or Japan are probably the best bets for preserving our cultural treasures, but I can’t see that happening. They’ve got the same fertility troubles we do, Whites are too prideful to do it, and by the time it’s necessary, our leaders are going to be furious with the East Asians for not welcoming enough of the mud flood. We’ll see every Renaissance painting burned, every Classical statue smashed to powder.

Jim says:

South Korea is attempting to address its fertility problem. It has long been obvious that financial incentives just do not work, except for lowest IQ and most useless part of the population, and barely works for them.

Mongolia has proven that giving mothers status works.

South Korea has shown that encouraging and financially assisting mothers to stay home is not entirely a complete waste of money.

No one is addressing the Mister One in thirty problem, nor the problem that progressive marriage, marriage 2.0, is simply an intolerably bad deal for men, and women do not like it much either.

China is starting to think about coercion, but still cannot bring itself to make the necessary status adjustments. The primary obstacle to reproduction is the prisoner’s dilemma problem, defect/defect, the game of players and bitches. The only cure for the prisoners dilemma problem is to declare defection wicked, evil, and contemptible, and punish it.

We need to make killing adulterers OK, or if not OK, a minor crime that police and judges do not regard as significant priority, and single non virgin females have to have a very low social and legal status, as in an unchaste woman cannot be raped, or if she can be raped, usually too hard to prove.

Anonymous Fake says:

As soon as South Korea starts giving students higher grades [*deleted*]

Jim says:

We have had this argument before. Grades are nonsense, and have always been nonsense, no one has the slightest interest in your grades at a job interview, and they never have had any interest. The only actual function of the education system is inculcating prosepective future members of the state elite with the state religion, and the only thing they need to vet for is whether they think the inculcation took. Job training is best done by those who know the job. We need an apprenticeship system in which apprenticeship contracts are enforceable.

Employers do not pay attention to grades, and never have, and the only reason they pay attention to degrees is coercion by HR to create jobs for the priesthood. Grades exist to promote the Ponzi scheme that education will get you a good job. Which it will, but only because the state is massively interfering with the job market, not because employers care about degrees, let alone grades.

Grades matter tremendously in South Korea, because only certain universities have the unique privilege of inculcating the state religion, and you cannot get into any position of power, even in the private sector, unless blessed by one those universities. But they only matter in getting you into that university, and thereafter no one takes them or your degree seriously, except as official endorsement that you are authorised to given a job with power.

Grades matter in South Korea only in getting you into one of these special universities. Thereafter no one cares. And no one cares about what degree you have, only that it came from one of these special universities.

The pretence that grades are a measure of your ability to do something useful is just not taken seriously in practice, and the pretence that the degree shows you have learned something useful is just not taken seriously in practice. It is all theater to pretend that universities are not what they always have been and always will be, religious seminaries for the state religion, a theater that everyone pretends to believe, but no one acts as if they believe.

The only change to the education system that could work for conservatives, and the only change needed, is change the state religion to something conservative. But a conservative state religion has no need or interest in interfering in the private job market, and no interest or capability to pretend to certify some people as better able to do jobs than others, so a university system inculcating a conservative state religion would be a hundredth or a thousandth its present size.

Which is, in a way, what you have been arguing: Just issue everyone an AAAAA grade. But, of course, their job is not to issue everyone an AAAA grade, or any grade. Rather to inculcate the state religion, and issue certificates that they think the inculcation took.

Anonymous Fake says:

Anglos voluntarily gave up power to Jews and “ethnic whites” and other immigrants. Whites voluntarily gave up power to blacks. Men voluntarily gave up power to women. And when this happened, the reason being was always described as [*deleted*]

Jim says:

I was there. Not what the reason was described as.

Barton says:

Universities are Fake and Gay.
Capital should re-exert itself to create exclusive mentorships, apprenticships, indentures, etc… accepting only those who are
1) capable
2) agreeable
3) interested

Jim says:

Barton, I am allowing your stuff through, because it is relevant and responsive to themes of this blog. You don’t sound like an enemy shill. But you are still grey listed, and if you continue to fail to conform the moderation policy, I am going to stop allowing your stuff through.

Please conform to the moderation policy and get white listed.

Barton says:

Universities and k-12 Public School Systems are all Fake and Gay. Nothing but brainwashing indoctrination camps whose sole purpose is to put everyone into state slavery.

Capital should re-exert itself to create exclusive mentorships, apprenticeships, indentures, private benefactor schools, etc… accepting only those who are
1) capable
2) agreeable
3) interested

Me says:

Historically, the sentence for the rape of an unchaste woman was forced marriage.

Mossadnik says:

The Bible emphatically does not prescribe that in the case of cum-dripping sluts, but explicitly in the case of seducing/raping (same thing) unbetrothed virgins.

Exodus 22:

16 And if a man entice a maid that is not betrothed, and lie with her, he shall surely endow her to be his wife.

17 If her father utterly refuse to give her unto him, he shall pay money according to the dowry of virgins.

Deuteronomy 22:

28 If a man find a damsel that is a virgin, which is not betrothed, and lay hold on her, and lie with her, and they be found;

29 Then the man that lay with her shall give unto the damsel’s father fifty shekels of silver, and she shall be his wife; because he hath humbled her, he may not put her away all his days.

That’s the Biblical social technology, which is highly functional.

Best thing is to marry girls off before they get a chance to lose their virginity; which might in some cases be at a disturbingly young age.

Oog en Hand says:

The Old Testament/Written Torah allows polygyny. And for good reason.

Consider the following scenario:

Young Palestinian incels abducting Israeli girls.
Young Israeli incels abducting Palestinian girs.

Mossadnik says:

Polygyny should be restricted to the elite. The rest of society gets one pussy per customer, with the option of fucking a concubine or prostitute on the side. For a stable society with a minimal number of incels, need monogamy for the masses – or to significantly alter the sex ratio, which is currently not all that realistic, but might be realistic on Mars, “if and when.”

Mossadnik says:

Also, now that all women are whores, it is primarily they who will have to be forcibly married, aka the Australian Solution or the ISIS Solution. Or, if that’s “too much” (I don’t think it too much, and young men nowadays are heavily redpilled), at least strongly encouraged/incentivized into marriage by various measures which currently Western governments do no employ, alas.

Barton says:

[Nothing wrong with your comment, but deleted for failure to conform to the moderation policy*]

jo blo says:

Status and wealth of breeding families could be improved by making educational vouchers payable to anyone whose kids can pass tests appropriate for their school year. Homeschooling is bound to work better for families with a dad, and communities of home- schoolers would arise to benefit from specialization. Would your community profit from diversity, muslims, satanists, gays? Good luck with that.

Most things just work so much better with the profit motive instead of govt worship. The biggest indoctrination we get from govt schools is that all knowledge and truth comes from govt and their unions demanding that all problems are solved by more funding.

Also, kids will work hard for a few bucks, and it sets a better example if the industrious do better than the negative influences.

An environment full of diverse bullies and hostile elite educators is a source of another major indoctrination effect – Stockholm syndrome, fear of the leftists. I think this is a big factor causing the big cities to be dirtbag ruled. If Trump can defund and prosecute enough of the “elites” , we may yet cross a threshold which will make it possible to restore rule of law and freedom of association

Andy says:

[*unresponsive, not what Jo Blo said*]

Jim says:

Jo Blo was advocating de-schooling, not government funding for private schools.

By all means you should argue for libertarianism and anarchism — but not by inventing positions for your interlocutors.

He advocated government funding for homeschoolers because government provides free childminding for schoolers. It is a more realistic reform. Governments implement free childminding because they want to inculcate everyone in the state religion.

We are all in favor of the minimal state, that sticks to defending against large scale threats foreign and domestic, though we have a broader idea of what constitutes a large scale domestic threat (Harvard) than libertarians do. So don’t fly of the handle and attribute Rino positions to your intelocutors. There is a position between Orange Man Bad on the one hand, and that every action that the governnment takes under Trump is wonderful.

And also there is a position between demonising Islam, and laying out the welcome mat for invaders.

A2 says:

I’m more concerned with the great collections of Yale and Harvard and such. A great deal of extremely valuable eggs in an increasingly insecure basket.

Should probably transfer all to Russia and/or China for safe keeping; any losses there due to theft and such at least won’t end with the object being abused and destroyed while filmed.

Oog en Hand says:

Dutch solution: kill old people.

A2 says:

Even after arabization they may, however, ultimately regret Karen in the Harem.

suones says:

Trigger warning: cutcocks and Churchians[1] beware

Oog en hand:

There is no such concept in Christianity, and no civilization has done more to protect the history of humanity around the world than Christendom.

Haha fuck no. Byzantines got the Rus-ian Bastard they put on the Kievan throne to cast down his (illegitimate) father’s gods, destroy his temples, kill his priests, and sacrifice his population to Yahweh. Don’t pretend one is somehow better than another. Of course, the Turks then gave the same medicine to Byzantium, to much wailing and gnashing of teeth. At least they didn’t demolish Hagia Sophia.

Prussians also got Churchified pretty bloodily, by their cordycepted brother Prussians.

If an Aryan with only two bullets left encounters a Mohammedan and a Churchian, it is better to shoot the Churchian twice and fight the Mohammedan bare handed. This was the lesson the Mongols learned in Palestine the hard way — the Churchian King could have taken the “holy land” and established a thousand-year peace with Mongols wiping out the Caliphate, but decided to suck cut cock instead. The main reason Japan is relatively stable now is that they dealt with Kiri-shi-tan early and hard.

[1] Using Vox Day’s term to distinguish them from National Christians.

Jim says:

This is complete nonsense that bears no recognisable connection to actual events. “a thousand year peace with the Mongols”. No one could cut any deal with the Mongols except submission, and look what happened to those that submitted. Every time a Mongol army wandered through, they still pillaged their subject states.

somedude says:

Never heard of this. Which christian king of palestine betrayed the mongols to the muslims?

Jim says:

Suone’s history is completely made up, and when callled on any specific detail, he is unlikely to explain it. Resembles the stuff that troofers tell.

suones says:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franco-Mongol_alliance

Read and be enlightened. I’ve posted about this earlier so I thought folks would remember, but this is something people are keen to forget early and often. The Mongols had wiped out the Baghdad Caliphate, the Mamluks in Cairo had defaulted into leadership, the Holy Land was under the “protection” of France and was strategically poised to stop the Mamluks from moving significant forces back East. It was logical for the Khan to seek alliance with the Crusaders who were already engaged in a life-or-death struggle against the rump Caliphate, so he did (no doubt influenced by the Christians in his inner circle). But the endless vacillating by European Kings, coupled by stupid demands of conversion by the Pope, ultimately led to the Mamluks marching their forces through Syria with little Christian resistance while the Mongols, having reached as far as Aleppo, had to turn back.

They (Franks in Syria) allowed the Mamluks to cross their territory, in exchange for a promise to be able to purchase at a low price the horses captured from the Mongols.

— Battle of Ain Jalut

This ultimately surrounded Christian Palestine from both sides and predictably crushed them. The cuck Frankish kings later entered into alliance with cutcock Ottomans as well, so that’s not completely unexpected.

Whenever a Churchian proposes an alliance, remember Ain Jalut! #NotEvenOnce

None of the above is relevant to the general bloodthirstiness of Churchians, of course, like in Kiev or Prussia, whenever they can get away with it, regardless of whatever platitudes they may spout while under the boot of Baphomet.

Jim says:

> It was logical for the Khan to seek alliance with the Crusaders

Christendom had already experienced such “alliances”. It would have been suicidally stupid to accept such alliance. The only possible course of action was the course Hungary and Vietnam wisely took. No compromise with the Khan, kill his diplomatic emissaries on sight, no negotiation, forever war, not matter how great the costs, or how low the prospect of success. Death to anyone who even attempts to negotiate. Everyone should have imitated Hungary and Vietnam, and that they failed to do so was foolishness, fecklessness, and normality bias.

What tended to happen was that people who had buffers between themselves and the mongols would negotiate with the mongols for the destruction of the buffer — and when that buffer vanished, would discover their terrible mistake.

dharmicreality says:

If an Aryan with only two bullets left encounters a Mohammedan and a Churchian, it is better to shoot the Churchian twice and fight the Mohammedan bare handed.

From a dharmic viewpoint I would still spare one for the desert cultist. I see them as a much bigger existential threat to the Dharmic than any other threat. In fact, I might spare both for the desert cultist in the immediate future till we can effectively secure an Akhand Bharat with medium-to-long distance nukes. Both must be handled simultaneously but give more priority to our long-time and immediate foes.

The desert cultist has always brought both faith and guns to a holy war.

These are near enemies and a more immediate and urgent problem to resolve than the Churchians / Evangelists / Progs who, though are a threat, but not as immediate.

And among all this, of course, restoring our elite fertility will remain the biggest issue.

The Cominator says:

Complete nonsense except about the Japanese part but they weren’t dealing with Christians but with Jesuits. Jesuits are what Hitler thought the Jews were (which is interesting because the Jesuits through the center party and Von Papen helped put Hitler in, the Center party and the Catholic trade unions in the Rhineland interestingly would not support the various attempts by Prussian monarchist reactionaries to overthrow Weimar but in a couple key moments they did side with Hitler).

yewotm8 says:

Yeah jews in the Weimar Republic dindu nuffin.

The Cominator says:

I’ve read Goering’s testimony (who was far more sane on the Jews than Hitler) he said what they did that I actually believe which is that they were disproportionately involved in the leadership of both the Social Democrats and the Communists (and he said that in Austria he recalled that the social democrats leaders were literally all jews which I can’t verify but may have been true).

Reasonable to go after them a bit for that, but its not why Hitler himself hated him because he lied to his more right wing supporters (including presumably Goering) as he himself was a communist in 1919 and agreed with Marx on far more than he let on.

I don’t care at all if they were involved in the prostitution business except when it involved faggotry or prepubescent childrent and Goering did not mention this and clearly thought Streicher was a propagandist who made them look bad with this kind of talk. Also one of the sane things about Germany is prostitution has always been legal (even during the 3rd Reich). Faggot prostitution is run by and for faggots. Faggots will do any degeneracy they can get away with whether they are jewish faggots or not.

Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

Tolerance for faggotry however…

Albert says:
Oog en Hand says:

“Catholics in my country are being replaced with evangelicals at an alarming rate, growing nearly 7 times in number in 60 years, they have a firm foothold on the media and large influence on politics, and for the first time ever in 2022 two states have been found to have a protestant majority. Before you dismiss this as a local issue, remember Brazil is the country with the most catholics in the entire world and latin america is widely known as the stronghold of catholicism. If the largest Catholic population of latin america is gone in a few decades, together with american influence, protestantism will also slowly spread to the rest of the continent and will leave Europe as the last region with a catholic majority, and we all know catholicism is facing a decline in it. The main branch of christianity is on a clock and its just a matter of time.”

Fertile religion pwned by conversion.

Catholics in my country are being replaced with evangelicals at an alarming rate, growing nearly 7 times in number in 60 years, they have a firm foothold on the media and large influence on politics, and for the first time ever in 2022 two states have been found to have a protestant majority.

Good. The roman catholic “church” is little more than the remnant of the pagan Roman Empire, pushing idolatry and globalism while masquerading as Christianity. And then they have the arrogance to claim they are “the” Church in exclusive apostolic succession from the Great Commission.

As a recovering catholic I am thankful that God opened my eyes.

Anonymous Fake says:

Most protestants are now demon worshiping [*deleted. Not what demon worshipping Protestants are like. Not what any protestants are like.*]

Jim says:

You have no Christians inside your bubble.

Anonymous Fake says:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYNxwNjVcL0

I am not lying. This kind of “worship” is spreading throughout the third world like it’s the latest plague. Mass possession. More demons here than in a church of Satan, or even a synagogue. But this video goes out of its way to rebut it logically rather than remain merely mocking it, like “Jesus Camp”. The first half hour or so is truly funny though, in a limited sense.

The “mainline” protestants are of course mostly sex deviants, and the “evangelicals” are a sort of acceptable white-adjacent tribe who tend to oppose the “good school district” tribe.

Jim says:

Firstly, what is depicted is simply wildly atypical of what protestants, even protestants of the tiny minority sects depicted, actually do.

Secondly: There is a whole lot wrong with the Christians depicted in this video, but demonic possession it is not. If demons are literally real, I know what demonic possession looks like. In schizophrenia, a person’s life is disrupted by inner voices from personalities that hate him, and he often is unable to adequately hate them back, incapable of stubbornly doing what they violently object to him doing, or not doing what they obnoxiously demand. He lacks the will power to perform sanely in the face of the disruptive inner noise, whether they are literal demons or whatever the psychiatric psychobabble says metaphorical inner demons are. If demons are literally real, this is demonic possession in the sense depicted in the New Testament, “my name is legion”, a horde of squabbling demons hostile to primary personality, and none too friendly with each other either. A worse, because more competently performed form of demonic possession is a calmer, quieter, and more capable of self destructing and performing great evil in a superficially competent and successful fashion. It is subtly creepy, rather noisily crazy, as for example Adam Schiff’s human mask dropping from time to time. The person not merely fails to adequately hate the inner voices back, but accepts or identifies with an inner voice that hates him and lies to him, and competently performs whatever that inner voice decides to do. So rest of the legion of inner voices quiets down or is shooed off by the most successful demon and stops shouting at the primary personality, or at the soul, whichever it is.

Thirdly: The people depicted claim to be possessed by the holy spirit. Mostly, they are faking it. Sometimes maybe they are possessed by something, but if so, the primary personality remains in control. He invited the possessor in, and by and by, the possessor graciously leaves.

Alf says:

“my name is legion”

Manifesting itself, among others, in the endless variations and additions to the LGBTQI+++ acronym and flag.

Most protestants are now demon worshiping [*deleted.

Honestly I would have been willing to compare notes. I never refer to myself as a protestant, and not very often as an evangelical, but almost always simply as a Christian. Sola Scriptura is a thing; worshiping Semiramis while calling her “Mary” is not.

Which is not to say that there aren’t problems all around. A church that proudly displays the pride flag is blatantly apostate. The Holy Spirit is not working in those peoples’ lives today.

Mossadnik says:

Honestly I would have been willing to compare notes.

There’s something to it.

I am reminded here of Chesterton’s introduction to “Heretics.”

It is foolish, generally speaking, for a philosopher to set fire to another philosopher in Smithfield Market because they do not agree in their theory of the universe. That was done very frequently in the last decadence of the Middle Ages, and it failed altogether in its object. But there is one thing that is infinitely more absurd and unpractical than burning a man for his philosophy. This is the habit of saying that his philosophy does not matter, and this is done universally in the twentieth century, in the decadence of the great revolutionary period. General theories are everywhere contemned; the doctrine of the Rights of Man is dismissed with the doctrine of the Fall of Man. Atheism itself is too theological for us to-day. Revolution itself is too much of a system; liberty itself is too much of a restraint. We will have no generalizations. Mr. Bernard Shaw has put the view in a perfect epigram: “The golden rule is that there is no golden rule.” We are more and more to discuss details in art, politics, literature. A man’s opinion on tramcars matters; his opinion on Botticelli matters; his opinion on all things does not matter. He may turn over and explore a million objects, but he must not find that strange object, the universe; for if he does he will have a religion, and be lost. Everything matters—except everything.

[…]

But there are some people, nevertheless—and I am one of them—who think that the most practical and important thing about a man is still his view of the universe. We think that for a landlady considering a lodger, it is important to know his income, but still more important to know his philosophy. We think that for a general about to fight an enemy, it is important to know the enemy’s numbers, but still more important to know the enemy’s philosophy. We think the question is not whether the theory of the cosmos affects matters, but whether in the long run, anything else affects them.

[…]

Suppose that a great commotion arises in the street about something, let us say a lamp-post, which many influential persons desire to pull down. A grey-clad monk, who is the spirit of the Middle Ages, is approached upon the matter, and begins to say, in the arid manner of the Schoolmen, “Let us first of all consider, my brethren, the value of Light. If Light be in itself good—” At this point he is somewhat excusably knocked down. All the people make a rush for the lamp-post, the lamp-post is down in ten minutes, and they go about congratulating each other on their unmediaeval practicality. But as things go on they do not work out so easily. Some people have pulled the lamp-post down because they wanted the electric light; some because they wanted old iron; some because they wanted darkness, because their deeds were evil. Some thought it not enough of a lamp-post, some too much; some acted because they wanted to smash municipal machinery; some because they wanted to smash something. And there is war in the night, no man knowing whom he strikes. So, gradually and inevitably, to-day, to-morrow, or the next day, there comes back the conviction that the monk was right after all, and that all depends on what is the philosophy of Light. Only what we might have discussed under the gas-lamp, we now must discuss in the dark.

These discussions are precisely the most important.

However, AF is repetitious and unresponsive. Better to debate Catholicism with someone like Nikolai, who is at least a real human.

The Cominator says:

No one who is actually willing to debate Catholicism in good faith will EVER stay with Catholicism (at least not in his mind and heart) like progressivism the lies of Catholicism are historically or empirically verifiable as lies. Peter was not the first Pope, the bishop of Rome until the 1050s was just a bishop not some supposedly all powerful living prophet of God. Gregory VII was the first Pope. This is just historical fact.

Barton says:

Population Counts don’t matter much.
Percentage of population, active participation, and lowest footholds… those do matter.
From Mexico all down through Argentina… General Christianity has the highest percentage of population, highest active participation, and lowest foothold of anything else.
Many countries there still have massive Christian-type religious parades.
Crosses and Jesus and Mary statues and Churches are seen everywhere in public.

There are two Major problems:

1) Leftist and Gay, massively Gay, both Politically and Physically spewing out from big places like Rio.

2) Islamic Muslim has taken scary footholds… El Salvador (Bukele is a Muhammaden piece of shit who sells his country out to Qatar), Suriname.
2a) Judaism big in Mexico now with their Leftist Female Jew President too.

If you ever get a Nation, shoot dead…

1) All those different from you who try to enter it from the outside
2) All upstarts within it that piss all over and reject your founding principles

Barton says:

[Nothing wrong with your comment, but deleted for failure to conform to the moderation policy*]

Trump has done far better in exerting control over the American presidency this time than first time around, but he still, fundamentally, is not recruiting his own men. Hitler had his own counter establishment, and simply plonked it into the key power positions, the control of internal violence, and from there all power positions. Trump does not have his own men.

Unfortunately, the modern Hitler, Barack Obama, also did this very well. And we are still feeling the effects.

Barton says:

Obama should have been shot, as a traitor to Liberty, and an invader Muslim.
Instead the USA gave him 8 years of power, which he abused to thoroughly wreck the nation.
Same as every other Democrat and Progressive President and Party did for 130 years.
Then they spawned the Woke and Tranny factions.
10x worse.

Mossadnik says:

You’ve had more sockpuppets here in 10 months than I had in 10 years, Rod / Rajesh. You always sneak through with half-relevant half-coherent posts, then out of the blue flood the comment section with a bazillion gorillion eyesore spam links which nobody clicks, for which presumably someone remunerates you. At least don’t complain when Jim inevitably killfiles you.

Andy says:

Musk Unveils ‘America Party’ To Challenge ‘One-Party System’ That’s ‘Bankrupting Our Country’

https://twitter.com/NateFriedman97/status/1940167805019501052
Another paid protestor tries to stop my interview and then I expose him and the people he works for. The people’s forum and Singham want to destroy America from within…

https://twitter.com/NateFriedman97/status/1940964528755560939
Paid protestor stops my interview. Then I expose him all the way back to the columbia encampments.

https://twitter.com/NateFriedman97/status/1940093610558472206
Honored to go on NEWSMAX to discuss paid protesting!
The Newsmax host told Friedman, “It sounds like these NGOs want to destroy this country.”

NGOs Prepare For Nationwide Color Revolution
Walmart Heiress Calls For “Mobilization”
“Popup NGO Shells” That Received Billions From Biden
Dark Money NGO Floods Baltimore Airwaves With Propaganda To Save Governor
Zohran Mamdani Admits He Hates Capitalism… Allied With Socialist Operative Linked To Marxist Terror Group
Republicans Probe China-Based Billionaire Allegedly Bankrolling Anti-ICE Riots
Leftist Activist Calls For Sanctions On America, Has Deep Ties To Democrat NGO Network

“Nonprofits have become the main vehicle for subverting America and destabilizing society. There is seemingly no enforcement in this sector for criminal activity, money laundering, or as seen with the Neville Roy Singham network, acting on behalf of foreign interests.”

Odd that some holier-leftist activist has still not killed both Alex and George for not giving all their wealth to the activista.

Mossadnik says:

You know, I’m starting to get the impression that my fellow ketamine addict Elon Musk is paying for this particular shilling operation. Hmmm.

Mossadnik says:

However, in that case it must be through an intermediary, since Musk clearly doesn’t grok the Dark Enlightenment and doesn’t personally lurk here.

My curiosity is piqued as to who actually pays for this crap.

Andy says:
Mossadnik says:

Unless it’s a personal obsession of Rajesh, it seems that this Thermidor-aligned shill is highly concerned about Qatari influence, so probably linked to some faction of the military establishment unhappy with the Muslim Brotherhood’s operations. I can obviously sympathize, as my people are literally at war with Hamas right now, but c’mon, this is a serious forum for serious people, not a dumping ground for low-effort psyops.

Andy says:

So you’re some type of live-in-israel Jew right? (Besides an admitted sockpuppet).
Yet you’re apologizing for Qatari Muslims, whose Quran they follow fake Allah false prophet Muhammad all command them to invade takeover kill you and impregnate your daughters?
Weird suicidal flex.

What do you think about the publicly unpopular yet likely truth that only the white type civ will be capable of advancing into the galaxy, and will exclusively ensure that outcome once it does.

Do you think Jews are of the necessary white type civ?
The Islam? Or were the Sultan and Anousheh just wealthy oil-based Dawahganda?
Or will the GloboHomo make it there first? Just their Wealthy Elite? Or complete with rockets full of their beloved Gays Trannies Blacks and Leftists?

https://www.wired.com/2007/09/mecca-in-orbit/
שְׁכִינָה‎
Ad Orientem
There is a music video you should watch, it’s called
“Where Is Allah — by Spinning Remixes”

Jim says:

> Yet you’re apologizing for Qatari Muslims, whose Quran they follow fake Allah false prophet Muhammad all command them to invade takeover kill you and impregnate your daughters?

This is unresponsive. Mossadnik is not apologising for them. He is criticising tedious low effort propaganda against them from robotic shills, propaganda generated by stupid ignorant people and intended for other stupid ignorant people.

You just accused a Jewish Zionist who cheerfully endorses genocide and intends Jewish conquest of the Middle East of being a pawn of the Mohammedans, because he did not like the quality of the anti Mohammedan propaganda you are dumping into my blog. That should tell you something about the quality of your links.

Mossadnik says:

What do you think about the publicly unpopular yet likely truth that only the white type civ will be capable of advancing into the galaxy, and will exclusively ensure that outcome once it does.

I tend to agree, which is part of the reason why I post my ideas in English to a global white audience, rather than in Hebrew to an exclusively Israeli audience. The white race is on its way out, and I’d like to save it. Now, that’s not the only thing I care about (and I’m not a White Nationalist, obviously), but yes, I do think that whites are very much worth saving, so here we are.

Do you think Jews are of the necessary white type civ?

There are Jews who can and do contribute to the advancement of civilization, but Jewry is a very mixed bag, with some more positive and pro-civilizational elements, and others far, far less so. Currently, the presence of Jews in white countries leads to two unpleasant outcomes, one being Jewish subversion of the host societies, and the other being antisemitism. I’d like to minimize Jewish subversion of white countries, and I’d like to minimize antisemitism, which is why I advocate for Jews as a whole to make aliyah. Also, I’d like to significantly strengthen my own country, and having millions of Jews come here from abroad will likely achieve that.

The Cominator says:

I do think East Asians (though they have a certain lack of creativity and a certain conformist mindset though 2020 proved bugman conformist mindset not at all unique to asians) are probably capable of technological space based civilization. Their biggest problems short of what I mentioned is the higher asians seem to lack the Faustian drive towards limitless expansion. Asian societies expand really only when they think they have to lest some terrible threat overwhelm them.

Jim says:

Chinese do a great job at minor innovation. They are very good at copying something and then improving it in minor ways, but seem to have a problem with big innovations. TSMC has been able to innovate because it has a lot of whites and japanese.

andy says:

When this blog posts a decent polemic against Islam, by [*deleted for being stupid, ignorant, and grotesquely ethnocentric. You have to understand your enemies, or else you lose*]

Jim says:

Even Mossadnik does not think the polemics you linked to are decent.

I have many times stated what is wrong with Islam, and so have the Indian commenters. But I explain it for intelligent thoughtful people, not for stupid ignorant morons.

Jim says:

It is more important to know an enemy general’s philosophy than his troop deposition. Your account of Islam is not wrong. It is not even wrong. Islam is worse than that, and better than that. But it is not that. Your facts about Islam are true, but uncomprehended.

Like the left, you see stupid ignorant incomprehension of your adversaries as a virtue.

The problem with Dar Al Islam, as I have stated many times, is that Mohammedans are commanded to make war against the whole world, to never endure any lasting peace, that Mohammedan conquest leads to the erasure of the history, identity, culture, knowledge, technology, and faith of the conquered, and that even if they succeeded, the result would not peace, but forever war, as every little faction of Mohammedans deems all the other factions unIslamic. What does your nonsense add to this critique other than silly insults that are far more likely to make Mohammedans laugh at you rather than enrage them?

Daddy Scarebucks says:

Binary thinkers are becoming so incredibly tiresome and intolerable, like the giant flying brains from Futurama using their stupefaction rays to obliterate all forms of critical thinking, except the flying brains were at least intelligent themselves.

When they’re allowed to have a voice, no one is allowed to have a moderate or nuanced position on anything; everything, everywhere must be reduced to the simplest, crassest friend-enemy distinction. “You’re either for X or against X”, and by the way, if you don’t want to spend every waking second complaining about X, then you must be for it.

Thus it’s impossible to believe that Putin is a bully when it comes to European trade and thuggish in his domestic politics, but also tremendously popular in Russia, because legitimately defending them against an existential threat, as well as crushing the NGOs who respond to nothing but brutal violence. It’s impossible to believe that Muslims are unable to make international peace, but still have the right ideas on some issues such as the proper role of women in society and the proper handling of some loans and debt. Or that Israeli nationalists living in the USA are trying to play both sides, and are insufferable to listen to and should just fuck off to Israel already, but are still absolutely right about the Palestinians being the same trash tier of humanity as ghetto niggers and hated by everyone else in the region.

No, these ideas simply can’t exist. If you won’t #StandWithUkraine, #RemoveKebab, or #GasTheKikes, all day every day, then you’re banned from whatever gay-ass club these smoothbrains think they’re running.

It doesn’t even matter what the binary is, or which side of it they’re on; it’s all fucking insipid. I have a pretty good sense of what issues are likely to affect me and/or my descendants, as well as how urgent those issues really are, and will not be a pawn in these low-IQ “let’s you and him fight” psyops.

Somehow, the Twitterization of the internet needs to be reversed before it all devolves into a mindless soup of bumbling cringe hashtags and obtuse rationalizations for those hashtags. Maybe Jim’s intransitive-trust model is the way to go, where the only people who can speak to you are friends and friends-of-friends. Open access inevitably seems to devolve into a slew of Raj/Rods, Anuses, El Mayos, Brown Toasts, and Anonymous Fakes. The noise is drowning out the signal.

Jim says:

It would seem that Andy is probably not a shill, just not smart enough for this ride. According to him, if Mossadnik does not go along with stupid ignorant depictions of the Mohammedan position on war with everyone insufficiently Islamic he must be pro Mohammedan. If we don’t think Orange Man bad, we must think he can do no wrong.

andy says:

> But I explain … what is wrong with Islam

Ok, then link to your full dedicated OP topic where you and the Hindus quoted the text and polemicized against and debunked Islam, including its grotesquely evil [*Not what Muslims believe deleted*]

Jim says:

No, I do not have a page that says any of that, because it is not only untrue, but absurdly ignorant and stupid, a torrent of ridiculous lies that I have no interest in rebutting.

The problem with rebutting stupid lies against Islam is that inevitably such rebuttal is going to obscure what is actually wrong with Islam.

Andy says:

Who?

Oligarchs?
https://x.com/victoriaslog/status/1936295586585837571

Bitcoin Treasury Influencers?
https://x.com/victoriaslog/status/1937942297561186755

Volunteers?
https://x.com/victoriaslog/status/1936017756266107088

Innocent Children?
https://x.com/victoriaslog/status/1938300849471565880

Musk has made plenty of children and comments, and refrained from many more. He’s more of an ex-Earther than a Globalist. His new “America Party” is more about ensuring a pathway to Mars than trying to bet on creating “Murica Earth” for longterm reliance. Survival DNA is strong, expect any “diversity” fares to be terminally costly once disembarked. What happens in Vegas stays in Vegas.

Jim says:

Putting you on moderation for link spam.

You are linking hostile propaganda. Some of it is propaganda that tells that part of the truth that serves their predetermined narrative, some of it is propaganda based on twisted truth, and some of it is lies, and I am not interested in sorting out which is which if you are not interested in sorting out which is which.

There is no possibility of a conversation with the people you are linking to, because they will resolutely disregard anything that does not fit the preconceived narrative that they have been assigned. They glow in the dark.

There is possibility of coversation with you. If you want to argue that narrative here, where we can debate it with you, then go right ahead. But you on moderation for link spam. No more link spam, all unexplained links from you will result in your comment being silently deleted on sight.

You can make an argument that claims some fact or evidence, and link to sources (preferably sources rather more plausible than those you have been linking to) which you claim provides evidence for whatever claim you are arguing. And then we can debate your claim. But you may not just spew random links to random glowies. That is just noise. We already know what they are going to say. What they say might well be true, but we also know that it is what they are going to say, true or false, so the link gives us no information.

If you think that what they say is true, then you need to debate that with us, not just link to megaphones that are guaranteed to tell us a well known story, regardless of the actual facts.

This medium is intended for conversation, not one way broadcasts. There is no point in talking back to a megaphone whose microphone is somewhere far distant.

The megaphones you have been linking to are linked to one microphone, and the man holding that microphone is forbidden to hear the response to his many megaphones, and his supervisor is unwilling to hear the response to those megaphones.

The left cannot meme, because it cannot hear.

Andy says:

People are right to fight for Sovereignty against the GloboHomo.
But let us not try to claim that any of them, including Putin, are Saints in doing so, nor are but pure snow in all of the other shit they’ve all been up to over the last decades since WWII, and before.

Everyone’s shit stinks (except Muhammad’s, look up that bullshit too if you don’t believe it).

Links to proof of everyone’s stinky shit, hypocrisy, and lunacy are necessary to such point.
And the convenience of the narrative censor’s shits… well they all stink to high heaven too. A great pestilence of flies be upon them.

Jim says:

But you are not linking to proof. You are linking to low effort propaganda by stupid ignorant people intended for other stupid ignorant people, propaganda shilled by glowies guaranteed to robotically tell us the same thing regardless of whether it is true or false.

You may well think that I am rejecting your link spam because I am in favor of peace with Dar Al Islam at any price until we have defeated the demon worshippers here, and because I think Russia is vastly more free than Europe (they obviously have vastly fewer political prisoners) and that Russia is defending liberty, peace and order in the Ukraine against brutal and corrupt warmongering globohomo imperialists. But Mossadnik is not rejecting your link spam in favor of neocon war for Israel because he is against Israel. We are rejecting your link spam because it is robotic stupid ignorant garbage guaranteed to say the same stupid ignorant stuff regardless of whether it is true or false.

I may well be biased against the story your glowies are telling. But Mossadnik is biased in favor of the stories your glowies are telling about Mohammed, and he still thinks that your Mohammed links are a pile of stinking boring tedious repetitious propaganda.

You may think I am rejecting your link spam because of bias, because I am in favor of peace with Russia, and in favor of peace with Dar al Islam until the demon worshippers at home have been dealt with and I don’t like to hear a contrary view. But Mossadnik is rejecting it because it is spam and because it is garbage by stupid ignorant people intended for stupid ignorant people.

I welcome debate. This is not debate. It is an enemy loudspeaker trying to disrupt conversations between dangerously smart people, regardless whether the loud speaker is chanting “four legs good, two legs bad”, or chanting “Four legs good, two legs better.”

It is not the truth or falsity of what the loudspeaker is chanting. Two legs are better. It is that it is merely a loudspeaker, and that it is merely chanting. That is what makes spam a worthless waste of space.

Andy says:

https://x.com/victoriaslog/status/1938300849471565880
I see ten thousands of dead innocent white ukrainian civilian babies and women intentionally splattered upon the land of Ukraine by Putin, ten thousands of innocent homes destroyed.
I see a snarky bastard named Putin behind that slaughter.

I see relatively ZERO dead innocent white Russians of the same sort splattered by Zelensky on Russian land.

Now Zelensky is obviously some degree of coked up propped up corrupt baseless fool Jew puppet.
You can debate that geopolitic and the causes/history behind it all.
And the lot of dead white Ukrainian men apparently defending UA.

But I do not debate masses of dead innocent women and children, versus zero.

In particular when Putin could have just killed Zelensky at any time and thus ended the war.

You have no non-contrived non-hypocrite answer for that.

Are you seriously going to claim that US/West/NATO would have gone to war over dead Zelensky, when they already didn’t go to war over their own bunch of dead Avdiiks and Operators and Mercs and Citizens-gone-volunteering?

> Putin’s Irredentalism and Tsarist Conquests

I’m not going to discount Flat’s considerations.

Nor those of a Young White Female Ukrainian blogger on twitter who documents with video that she sees Putin intentionally killing her innocent friends.

Show me innocent Young White Females being killed as such in the lands of Russia, and I will immediately condemn that too.

Jim says:

> I see relatively ZERO dead innocent white Russians of the same sort splattered by Zelensky on Russian land.

You did not notice the torture and murder of the Ukrainian opposition? You did not notice the murder of Russian civilians when the Ukraine invaded Kursk?

Russians reasonably and realistically believe that Nato success in this war would have consequences for Russian civilians similar to that of the Nazis occupying large parts of Russia, because that is what happened in Kursk. It is quite obviously not what is happening when Russians seize yet another Ukrainian town.

> I see ten thousands of dead innocent white ukrainian civilian babies and women intentionally splattered upon the land of Ukraine

Not intentionally splattered.

It is clear that Russian bombardment of Ukrainian cities is killing a lot of Ukrainian civilians. It is also clear that the Russians are only targeting what they reasonably believe to military facilities, and infrastructure critical to the Ukrainian war effort. Most of the Ukrainian deaths in the cities appear to be Ukrainian anti air missiles falling out of the sky. We have seen a whole lot of Patriot missiles crashing and exploding. While the Ukrainians were murdering Russian civilians either as policy, or because their soldiers have been inculcated with genocidal propaganda, while Russian troops are not being inculcated with genocidal propaganda.

If you look at Ukrainian propaganda, it is obvious that victory means terror and mass murder, and this is in fact what we saw. If you look at Russian propaganda, it is the opposite, and this is what we see in practice. Ukrainian propaganda dehumanises Russians, and Russian speaking Ukrainians. They are vermin, orcs, insects. Russian propaganda deeply humanises Ukrainians, they are misguided and misled, tragic, rather than evil. And the actions of Russian and Ukrainian troops in the field reflect these very different official narratives.

I recall a video in which a Ukrainian Patriot missile base was under Russian attack, and the base was launching patriot missiles like a machine gun against incoming to save itself. Quite few of those patriot missiles turned round and hit the city not very far from the base, which was located in the middle of civilian apartment blocks, on the former parking lot of one the apartment blocks. Not a good location to put a vital military target. The Ukrainians are deliberately using their own civilian population as human shields for their military assets. One patriot missile did a U turn and appeared to hit the base itself, or very close to it. We know a lot of patriot missiles are faulty in this regard, for the Saudis also complained about patriot missiles running wild — but their missile base was in the middle of desert — there was oil infrastructure nearby, but not civilian apartment blocks.

The original National Socialists were genocidal against white enemies, and genocidal against white National Socialist enemies — against the Greeks. The Ukraine is run by Jews and by literal National Socialists, in that in 1944 the CIA recruited people who were actual literal National Socialists in the sense of being actual literal party members of Hitler’s party and members of his apparatus of governance, and these were the elders of today’s Azov. They have not changed. Immediately after the 2014 coup, they set about ruling the Ukraine using the same methods as they had used to rule Germany.

Andy says:

I do not accept the premise that any of Putin/Russia (and re China/DPRK/Iran), and/or Zelensky/UA (and re NATO/West/US), are Holy [*deleted*]

Jim says:

No one has said they are holy. There is lots of criticism of Putin on this blog. The claim is that Russians are reasonably and realistically afraid of terrible evil. Frightened people may do terrible things, up to and including nuking the world. You have said, truthfully but deceptively, that thousands of Ukrainians civilians have been killed. Unless the US changes course before the precipice, it will be hundreds of millions of American civilians. This is not my main concern, because I know Trump shares it, and he is probably going to change course before going over the cliff.

You don’t defeat a nuclear power, and you should never embark on a course of action where it is likely to see defeating you as existential. Everything eventually has to be settled by diplomacy, based on each side comprehending and understanding the other. Trouble is that comprehension and understanding of Russians is still a thought crime, though fortunately becoming less and less of a thought crime.

Russia cannot and will not accept a frozen conflict. All frozen conflicts with Russia, not just the Ukraine, must be resolved, because of the long US history of unfreezing them just enough to put dangerously great pressure on Russia. In addition to the Ukraine problem, we need a solution to the Kaliningrad Oblast that does not involve Russians being removed from Kaliningrad, nor Poles and Lithuanians being removed from the lands between Kaliningrad and the rest of Russia.

Russia has no natural borders. Thus conflicts between it and is neighbours are apt to result in, or be caused by, people of a neighbouring ethnicity being disloyal, or being perceived as disloyal. This problem can be resolved by not having conflicts between Russia and its neighbours (Russian dominance of its neighbourhood) or by Russia and its neighbours observing strict rules for the treatment of minorities. Which not everyone has been observing. To avoid Russia needing to impose the solution of dominance of its neighbourhood, we need a peace where everyone agrees to same rules on handling minorities.

Russia rightly views continued low level war between nuclear powers as intolerable, and is not going to tolerate it any longer. A general peace has to resolve the Ukraine problem, the Kaliningrad problem, the minority problem, and ensure both Russian and European security.

The Cominator says:

This split is theatre imho Musk could have easily gotten a careful for whatever he wants.

The Cominator says:

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1941788068333187432
BTW I think this prettymuch seals that the split between Trump and Musk is theater. It didn’t make sense to me that the relatively self made richest man in the world was being this petty and stupid whether he is high on drugs or not. If Elon wanted an EV subsidy carveout so bad the Republican party would have given him one. The congresscritters are whores and he is at least as far as public knowledge goes the richest man in the world.

There are a lot of really stupid centrist normies out there who might vote Democrat if they pretend they aren’t a bunch of insane gay race communist whackos. Elon’s schtick with the Trump split is to make sure they can’t successfully pulloff that trick
> But he called Trump an Epstein pedophile
They had to make the split look real.

Alf says:

Pretend to have a public fight for x amount of years just so you might be able to poach some dem votes? That just sounds so dumb on so many levels.

The Cominator says:

Why? Midterms are next year. To really kill the Democrats at least the Democrats as the party of gay race communism they have to lose the midterms. We can’t risk them coming back and Elon knows he can’t risk them coming back.

The fight will only need to be for a year and a half and I’m sure they have back channels where they can still communicate. It also helps Elon lessen the size of the target on his back, and it helps Trump in that the narrative where he is a puppet of Elon is no longer tenable.

alf says:

Fair elections already mean Trump wins in a landslide.

Why such a convoluted plan? Why assume he steals votes from the left and not the right? Why not work together publicly, which gives a much stronger impression than working together in secret.

Kayfabe can work when its short and over before you realized what happened. like Syria and Iran. This kind of long con on the other hand seems like a dumb risk and much energy spent on very questionable plans.

A2 says:

I don’t think Elon has the right personality to capture the ‘non-extreme’ voters. Furthermore, Dems have already equated him with Hitler and are defacing (or making awesome) his cars, so that part will be an uphill battle.

The Cominator says:

Why not the non extreme voters? Yes Extreme leftists are going to vote Democrat and will never forgive him.

A2 says:

Elon does not emanate a cool, collected aura that would attract moderates. He smokes dope on a podcast, he takes ketamine (I think), he has children with half a dozen pseudo-wives, he fires 80% of the employees of his freshly bought company, and so on. He’s a hothead.

Trump shares some of these characteristics but he has the nous to be on the right side of the right issues. Elon is a political naif who loves H1B immigration and EV subsidies too openly.

Bix Nudelmann says:

I can’t read minds, but I know for a fact that Elon does understand the effects of a 3rd party in plurality-win politics.

He can make a rocket but can’t understand what “splitting the vote” means? Come on.

What we CAN argue about is whether it’s to split the Dem vote, or threaten to split to Rep vote unless they remove their shittiest incumbents, or both.

I just can’t fucking stand these idiots online and on TV, with their butt-tier government/NGO/make-work desk jobs somewhere, showing zero awareness that there are people out there who are smarter than them. Just drives me crazy.

The Cominator says:

Yes it irritates me that the default assumption of so many is that Elon must be being either crazy or retarded or both. Also that the republicans wouldn’t have bent over backwords to at least give him the EV subsidy if he wanted it (spending cuts which are politically difficult maybe not).

Elon’s angle and the split between him and Trump is at the very least not what it seems.

Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

If Musk thinks that then he is not tuned to see the world rightly.

Which is not unusual; any survey of the upheavals in France, Russia, Rome, or the Three Kingdoms shows a whole host of human kinds with the same sort of blind spot.

Bluetribesmen have no friends to the right, and no enemies to the left. He could split the blue vote by being an even bigger communist than zolan mammajamma, and that’s never going to happen.

Like many people in times of late society, he doesn’t understand how precarious his position is. The whigs will never be his friend, there will never be an end of ever escalating demands, and they will not stop until they see him broken, in prison, and all his children sterilized, and the sources of power that can stand between him and that or make it happen are up for grabs.

He stockpiles enemies amongst those who can never be but his enemy, and loses friends amongst the only those who can be his friends. A common failure mode of visionary savants.

He pays too much mind to the momentary ordinality than the temporary cardinality. He judges based on the scores on the board today than the trends in scoring over time. He trades alliances on ‘so what have you done for me lately’ instead of the directions they can go altogether.

Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

>A common failure mode of visionary savants.

‘If you are not absolutely right you are absolutely wrong’ can be adaptive in more deterministic fields, where the scales in both space and time between inputs and outputs are more tightly linked and thus legible, providing motivation to get things very right and motivate others to the same.

But of course, goes boink in the affairs of any field you are not proficient in; and the more transcendent the field, the more boink it may get.

Most pertinently here, it obliterates any discrimination between folk with respect to their continuums of spiritual character.

It may be an exaggeration to say that Musk’s personal conflicts with various peoples in various factions of the Trump coalition causes him to see them all as exactly the same as the likes of Ziz or Strzok or Kagan; but not a very large one.

Daddy Scarebucks says:

It seems as though many types of social skills are surprisingly non-fungible and non-transferable. In Trump’s case, for example, we saw that the ability to manage bureaucrats in business does not necessarily translate to an ability to manage bureaucrats in government. And in Elon’s case, we see that the ability to lead and inspire subordinates to do their best work does not necessarily translate into an easy rapport with equals or superiors. “Charisma” is a bit of an illusion, or at least highly situational.

But Trump has shown has that he can learn to adapt, albeit slowly. I’m optimistic that Elon may demonstrate the same, even if it takes a few years. He has problems with temperament, but he is a smart guy, and smart guys can overcome a lot of personality problems if they put in the effort.

Sedman says:

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Oog en Hand says:

Young Hoon Kim, the highest IQ individual on earth, claims that evolution is nonsense. How to refute him?

FrankNorman says:

Start by listening carefully to his arguments.

Daddy Scarebucks says:

What an inane question. How do you argue with someone who has a lower IQ? Do you declare “I’m smarter and therefore right”, or do you actually, y’know, make an argument?

Smart people reason themselves into stupid shit all the time, and that’s not even taking into account the fact that it’s impossible for anyone to credibly claim they have the highest IQ in the world since (a) test results are somewhat inaccurate beyond 130 or so and wildly inaccurate beyond 160, (b) the vast majority of humans have never even taken an IQ test, and (c) the Flynn effect, properly interpreted as score inflation, means an IQ of X today is more like an IQ of X-15 last century.

Just look at Vox Day, who tried to make the same claim that Darwinism must be false “Because Math”, and J.F. Gariepy, a man of presumably lower “IQ”, had no trouble tearing him a new asshole, explaining in a few simple sentences how his “math” was complete bullshit predicated on false and ridiculous assumptions. Not that Vox ever admitted it, but that’s to be expected, as individuals who can be reasoned out of their own strongly-held beliefs are rarer than hen’s teeth.

You argue with a smart person the same way you argue with an idiot: either (a) don’t waste your time, (b) use logic to persuade an audience of intellectuals or (c) use rhetoric to persuade an audience of normies.

FrankNorman says:

Vox Day’s argument is not unique – other people have done similar calcs. What it proves is not that evolution is fake, but that the mechanism for it must be something more than just point mutations, because it would be way too slow based on that alone.

Fidelis says:

Have done some research on novel evolutionary algorithms. The ones that work as you say, uniform stochastic mutations per round, even when you game the system and heavily bias the winners more than natural selection does, even when, on smooth functions, you take second order derivatives on the mutations, its incredibly slow. The first order ones easily get stuck, can’t hill climb well. The ones with second order derivatives do better. Still terrible. If you’re optimizing something, you reach for evolution-themed algorithms last, our current ones suck.

I’m convinced that attempting to read DNA to understand the function of our biological programming is like attempting to read RAM segments to understand the nature of a computer program. It can work, kinda, but it’s missing quite a lot of information you would need as to how those RAM segments came to be. It’s taking a very difficult route on an already very difficult problem.

We’re going to see this when we start trying to CRISPR more interesting traits into the system. Probably works for simple proteins, like hair color, which AFAIK is just relative weighting of two different pigments. Very simple, its like hot swapping a variable in RAM, cheat engines in video games do this all the time. What is not going to be simple is CRISPRing height and IQ. You’ll need polygenic scoring for this, should work. Polygenic scoring is far from perfect, but it’s just building a probabilistic model on known results. A running program with RAM segments that look like this is preferred, so we fork from this program. Forking is the way to go when optimizing an incredibly complex system in a direction that requires non trivial modifications.

Similarly with deleterious mutations. Likely we are missing some very deep underlying biological changes, and we only see the ‘surface’ results of these deleterious changes, which manifest as point mutations. If so, just swapping the points to what we want on the encoding is unlikely to work. Well, can work when it was just a messed up encoding of a single protein, many cases like this. Will not work well for deeper levels of cellular infrastructure that we hardly understand that produced the deleterious proteins in the first place.

Jim says:

We know that everyone is under extremely high genetic load. Just proofreading the genome and cleaning out stupid obvious garbage is likely to produce enormous results.

A2 says:

If memory serves, John Holland (the father of genetic algorithms for those not in the field) wrote that recombination, not point mutation, was the great source of advancement in practice. Real genetics and evolution are of course far more complicated but I think the point will stand.

Jim says:

> What it proves is not that evolution is fake, but that the mechanism for it must be something more than just point mutations, because it would be way too slow based on that alone.

No, Vox’s argument is just wrong. Clever silly. Only a smart man could produce such stupidity.

The difference between corn and teosint is four mutations, not millions of mutations. All the other millions of genetic mutations are of small effect, present to some degree in both species, and primarily effect stuff additively. And additive mutations are under collective selection. Vox Day’s math proves that evolution could not achieve millions of mutations like the four that make the difference between corn and teosint in a reasonable time.

If you hybridise corn and teosint, and then select for those four mutations, you have corn. If you do it again and again, you have corn that differs from teosint in only four mutations. If we did the same with chimps and men, which would of course be biologically difficult and grossly unethical, we would probably find that only a dozen mutations of the millions of mutations that have gone to fixation make a difference that matters much. Although men and chimps differ in millions of genes that have gone to fixation, we would probably find, as we have found with smaller faster breeding life forms, that only very small number of those genetic differences suffice to make a man a man and not a chimp.

Fidelis says:

If you hybridise corn and teosint, and then select for those four mutations, you have corn.

Has this been proven in a lab? Take a teosinte seed, CRISPR in the four mutations, and out comes corn?

I take the negative hypothesis here. The four mutations you see are the outer manifestation of an inner process. They’re an encoding, meant to compress information between generations. You still need a decompression algorithm, a way of interpreting the DNA strand into an actual living cell, and we don’t read those, despite knowing that they must exist. We have some idea of what the compressed code looks like after the transformation between teosinte and corn, and from what I can tell it is more than just those eight bits of change.

Jim says:

> > If you hybridise corn and teosint, and then select for those four mutations, you have corn.

> Has this been proven in a lab?

Not only has it been proven in a lab, it has also been proven by random latin American peasants. If you want to breed corn for your local environment, commercial corn has no genetic diversity, so selection on commercial corn has no effect — all the offspring are genetically identical. So they breed hybrids back to being corn, and then do selection on that corn.

> Take a teosinte seed, CRISPR in the four mutations, and out comes corn?

I don’t think that experiment is necessary, but it is what the people attempting resurrect extinct species are betting large amounts of money on, so either something similar has been done, or they find South American peasants as convincing as I do.

Fidelis says:

You appear to be making the claim that these four genes are the distance between corn and teosinte.

If so, no need to hybridize, you just CRISPR the four points. Hybridization and the later observing the four points that are associated with corn are prevalent in the descendants that most look like corn is not proving that the four points cause corn. It is proving that corn is strongly associated with those four points, to the extent that they are inseparable in the genome. Okay, but what are these four points doing, and if its making corn out of wild grass, you should be able to CRISPR wild grass into corn with four selected swaps. If that has not been done, my negative hypothesis still stands.

commercial corn has no genetic diversity, so selection on commercial corn has no effect

Part of this is the breeding out of the diversity in traits, but I would hypothesize that more than just making diversity barren in the DNA encoding we read, we disrupted the cellular mechanism that gives rise to diversity in the encoding.

Loci are not all equal on the genome. Some spots are rarely changed, and when changed lead to catastrophe. Some spots change extremely frequently, and observing differences in these spots means observing a diversity in traits. The ScienceTM consensus to explain this says that DNA is the full script, and changing some variables in the DNA changes the scripts. Data as code. I am saying that the DNA is something very much like RAM or hard memory, and that the interesting bits lie in the cellular infrastructure that actively reads and modifies the DNA. Data as data.

Jim says:

I do not believe that crispr is going to have an effect different from breeding out all the genes that differ from local wild teosinte, except the genes that matter.

And if crispr did have an effect different from breeding, I am sure someone would have noticed by now.

And even if your theory was correct, the relevant experiment for Vox’s objection to evolution is the breeding out experiment, since it invalidates the model that one needs millions of genes to go to fixation in sequence. And without Vox Day’s argument, your theory is unmotivated. The existing gene centric model of evolution is consistent with theory and observation. Six thousand years for four significant mutations, each of them going to fixation in parallel, not sequentially, to make teosinte into corn, and all the other millions of mutations that went to fixation not mattering enough for a Latin American peasant to care much about the difference, for they are apt to deliberately unfix them.

Mayflower Sperg says:

The cellular infrastructure that reads and executes DNA is identical across all life on Earth, because if it ever changed even a tiny bit, the entire genome would be interpreted incorrectly and the affected cell would immediately die.

Daddy Scarebucks says:

Also JF’s simple rebuttal that the “math” is based on individual serial fixations which is simply not what the theory says happens nor what we observe in nature nor often what genetic engineers actually apply in their crossbreeding efforts and other creations.

Fixations aren’t one and dones, they can be hundred and dones, or thousand and dones. If some catastrophic event wipes out half a population, or a conquering tribe kills off all the men and impregnates the women, that’s a mighty huge number of fixations all at once, or one very huge fixation depending on your definition. And that is exactly what human history is littered with: sudden changes to entire genomes, or sudden disappearances of entire genomes. So not only can individual genes be far more significant than he supposes, but they can and do mutate and fixate far more quickly than his toy model supposes because they can do so in parallel.

His arguments are equivalent to saying it’s impossible to get wet in the rain, because raindrops only fall one at a time (technically true) and nearly 100% of them will miss you (also true) and so if you’re out there for just 30 seconds, it’s not enough time to get more than a little damp. This logic holds water (heh) only under the ludicrous assumption that each drop waits for the previous drop to hit the ground before it starts falling. Reality is, you’re going to get soaking wet because drops are falling simultaneously.

“Reality isn’t real because my model says it can’t be real.” A million spinoffs of Zeno’s paradox. So very tiresome.

Douthat interviews Thiel: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/26/opinion/peter-thiel-antichrist-ross-douthat.html

Let’s be clear, neither of them are truly redpilled. Still, I like it that not-redpilled-ones are still noticing *some* of what is important. Like tech stagnation. The idea that you show your kids in 2025 the world 40 years ago, the Back To The Future movie, and it looks familiar. And in 1985, 1945 would not have looked familiar. Something slowed down, clear.

Thiel thinks stagnation started around 1970. This is useful because so many people think the shiny crap we got since then is truly progress. But why are our cars not faster? OK some trains are faster. In Japan. In China. There is one TGV in France, too. Still.

This matters to me, because despite my better judgement I still talk with normies. I just do not want to be an insular sectarian. These “purple pilled” observations help talking with them.

BTW is Thiel actually a proven faggot? He does not give me the faggot vibes at all. *Shrug* there are always outliers.

Daddy Scarebucks says:

Seriously? Thiel is openly gay, it’s not even disputed. Out of the closet since at least 2014, maybe before.

You definitely shouldn’t be elitist about talking to purple-pilled normies, since you are one. I mean that in the best possible way, purple-pilled normies are the salt of the earth, but the “despite my better judgment” part would be awfully pretentious even for someone much farther to the right.

Jim says:

LLMs respresent a real advance. Grossly overhyped.

There is also a design error, since they make all of the knowledge, and all of the stupidity, of the world readily accessible. Fine tuning needs to be on a curated data set, but producing a large curated set is costly. You have to leverage off other curated sets, such as this blog and the Gutenberg library.

When someone talks with chat GPT, and has a very long context window of previous conversations, both of them get stupid and crazy. Folie à deux. I don’t know to what extent this is a problem with all LLMs, or just some of them. I have never used Chat GPT, and never used very long context window of conversations on any LLM, figuring that irrelevancies in the context window will just worsen the performance. If it cannot produce near working code quickly, the longer you talk to it, the stupider the code it generates gets. Maybe a very long context window of random conversations results in it generating custom tailored hallucinations which you find more persuasive than the usual random hallucinations. That is just a wild assed conjecture.

This may be related to the phenomenon of deprogramming your bugs, when you make a mistake, something bad happens, you make an incorrect assumption about where the problem lies, and try to fix it by changing all your actually working code. The man with a very long context window full of hallucinations gets deeper and deeper into working out a consistent system of hallucinations.

When an LLM produces bad code, and you try to argue it into producing good code, you get nowhere fast. Presumably the same is likely to happen on any topic. The more wrongness in the context window, the more wrongness it will generate. And if you and the LLM are both wrong, you will both get wronger. This happens with code, so probably happens with invisible pink unicorns, and orange man bad.

c4ssidy says:

I’ve been obsessing over ultra low level bare metal code, DFAs, compilers, tables referencing tables and such, strange (aka brain-melting) loops and stack usages. In the case of chatGPT I think it could actually cause a resurgence of this specific style. The problem with doing everything contagiously and by index is that when you see a mistake and delete one thing, you have to shift everything else by 1. I find chatGPT is one hundred percent reliable for shifting all the small details when pasting a large table of any arbitrary (but logically consistent) data system. I hear LLMs are terrible for libraries. I bet they are great for retro homebrewers who want to cram bytes like the old days. It is effective for my use case which is trying to compile a language at maximum speed into machine instructions without an intermediate object tree. One small edit or error fix I’m done in a few seconds compared to what may have taken 5-10 minutes traditionally

Andy says:

Germany Is Not Being Honest About Who Is Assaulting Children At Swimming Pools
https://www.eugyppius.com/p/migrants-will-not-stop-molesting
Migrants will not stop molesting and assaulting children at swimming pools in the best and most democratic Germany of all time…
Thus we’ve been treated to an array of bizarre anti-swimming-pool-molestation messaging campaigns that just love to reverse the typical ethnicities of perpetrator and victim.
https://koelnbaeder.de/ichsags/

Mossadnik says:

Even if the messaging campaigns accurately depicted sandniggers as the perps, it would still be an exercise in futility, for the obvious reasons. But nannies gonna nanny.

Oog en Hand says:

Symmetric Warfare:

Young Turkish incels abducting Mädchen.
Young German incels abducting kizlar.

Young Palestinian incels abducting Israeli girls.
Young Israeli incels abducting Palestinian girls.

At least the Germans have the excuse of being forced to take the blue pill on violence. Thanks, Bomber Harris !!!

Jim says:

Allowing this one through because actually relevant link that is actually explained. “Bizarre anti-swimming-pool-molestation messaging campaigns that just love to reverse the typical ethnicities of perpetrator and victim.”

Note the widespread hallucination that blacks are in danger from white racists, and something must be done to make them safe.

Both links to people in good standing, rather than glowies. You are not on moderation for being a glowie, but for indiscriminate link spam, much of it to glowies.

Explained links to people who do not glow in the dark are OK.

The Cominator says:

Why is Trump saying he’s sending more stuff to Ukraine i was solid during the Iran thing but this is a horrible disappointment.

Daddy Scarebucks says:

Always consider the source. Last I heard, this came from yet another lying journalist citing yet another lying bureaucrat. It’s probably a lie.

The Cominator says:

Not hearing that it’s fake news anywhere but from you of course Trump says a lot of things but it’s not just being reported by lefty msm cathedral sources but conservative rags like the nypost.

Daddy Scarebucks says:

As far as I know, they all got it from the same source (Axios).

Maybe this was a rare occasion on which they were telling the truth, but very often it’s “push reporting”, claiming that he said or did something in order to sow division and put him on the defensive (and try to force him to actually do that thing) when members of his coalition realize they’ve been had.

This type of thing isn’t uncommon when the press is involved. In fact the tradition goes back quite a long way; was parodied on Yes, Minister more than 40 years ago.

Jim says:

Reality is clear. Pete Hegseth authorised the military to hang on to their stuff and to not disarm themselves to supply the Ukraine.

This is physically contradictory with the Biden commitments on how much stuff is to be shipped to the Ukraine. As a result shipments to the Ukraine are coming up short right now, and this is having an impact on the front line right now. The government has not retracted its promises to deliver lots of stuff, but lots of stuff is not in fact going.

The Cominator says:

Well Trump said that is going to change now… Hopefully he is bullshitting. Ukraine is an abomination of globohomo.

white bread says:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2025/07/07/trump-ukraine-weapons-shipments/

“Trump sharply criticizes Putin, announces weapons will go to Ukraine”

“The president announced the resumption of weapons shipments on Monday”

“That announcement caused confusion in Ukraine, where officials said they had not received notification that any weapons shipments would be paused”

Haha, wait. Trump actually never stopped sending weapons anyway.

The Cominator says:

They sent very token stuff so they could claim they were following the law. However that aid is resuming at anything like full scale is disappointing.

Jim says:

Yes, Trump never stopped sending weapons. And never revoked the Biden promises to deliver weapons. But Pete Hegseth was allowed to take measures that, if implemented, would lead to considerably fewer weapons being actually delivered. And the Ukrainian retreat has markedly accelerated — still only around fifty square kilometres a day, but the retreats seems to happen because the sections of the front line held by the most battered Ukrainian regiments simply disappear and russians pour through the gaps, so the retreats, though territorially insignificant, indicate that the Ukrainian army is disappearing at a significant rate, and significant acceleration in the rate at which it disappears.

And we are hearing a lot of complaining, from the Ukrainian end, about weapons not in fact being delivered.

There is a lot of confusion about weapons delivery. The Trump administration is misleading everyone, including itself, reflecting the contradictions and conflicts between Maga and Thermidor.

Trump has a rule: No one is to talk about weapons shortages, because that embolden’s America’s adversaries. But this has the effect that a whole lot of weapons are theoretically present, and theoretically delivered, but are not actually present, and not actually delivered. And Pete Hegseth is trying to make weapons deliveries to American forces and weapons possession by American forces more actual and less theoretical. Which means that everyone else gets more theoretical weapons and fewer actual weapons.

white bread says:

oh and by the way, the so called european union(the modern day holy roman empire) has been ordered to double its military budget. And that is because not just the ukraine, but now the whole of europe is going to be used to attack Russia.

And who is behind the plan to further arm europe and further turn it against Russia? It’s the emperor of the neocons, his lordship trump, who else.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/6/25/nato-commits-to-major-defence-spending-hike-sought-by-trump

Jim says:

Yes, Europe has been ordered to expand its budget to fund and arm the Ukraine war, but in their war against the white working class and their pursuit of superior Green Holiness, they have done an even more through job of destroying their capability to make weapons. All the money will go not to producing weapons but to proving that minorities and women are equal to white men, and to saving the earth from white male heterosexual civilisation.

white bread says:

I do not think so. Europe remains an industrial powerhouse, despite all the green, feminazi and similar nonsense (which no doubt diverts resources from relatively useful industry to completely useless graft).

Also as far as I’m concerned all the “news” about shortages of US weapons is disinformation. The claim comes from various sources including the western pro-Russia faction, which is usually right and seldom parrots western propaganda, except in this case.

Bottom line : I do not expect a shortage of weapons to save us from WW3.

Jim says:

> Europe remains an industrial powerhouse

Nuts. They can only produce stuff from legacy factories that were created by legacy people who have retired or been kicked out.

The biggest and most important legacy production system is cars, and look at what is happening to their car production. It is collapsing, because they are forgetting how to build cars. Jaguar being the most infamous example. It can no longer make the parts for its existing cars.

The surviving car factories are run by people who don’t know how to build cars. From time to time something stops working, and they don’t know how to get it working again.

Jim says:

> Also as far as I’m concerned all the “news” about shortages of US weapons is disinformation

Recall that when Israel was attacked, they called up their reservists, and found that most of the equipment that was supposedly in stock for the reservists had quietly wandered off to the Ukraine.

The news about western shortages is not coming from the Western “Pro Russia faction”. It is coming from the men on the ground. It also came from president Biden.

In order to destroy the white working class, they got rid of those elements of the middle class who knew how to direct and equip the white working class to build stuff.

They cannot help themselves. They don’t actually want weapons. They want weapons designed and built by Shaniqua.

white bread says:

>They can only produce stuff from legacy factories

Oh yes, my bad. The legacy factories where the litography equipment used to build your backdoored, piece of shit hardware comes from. So you are, again, spouting nonsense.

>Trump finally moves to make peace in the Ukraine

No he doesn’t and ASML is mostly an european company.

Jim says:

ASML has not yet been purged of the excessively white, male, and straight. It will be.

Not every legacy business has been destroyed, obviously, but they are going down like ninepins. The remaining weapons production facilities entered crisis mode when the Ukrainians discovered that most of the stuff. such as tanks and rockets, does not actually work most of the time, and they are not sure what to do fix production so that most stuff that comes off the assembly line does work on delivery.

Increasing weapons production will require building new factories, which is harder to do than producing new weapons, and the people that knew how to do that were purged a long time ago.

ASML can build new tech, but the European weapons manufacturers are more like Jaguar, finding it increasingly difficult to build their existing tech. And if you are having trouble rolling existing tech out of your old factory, you will have considerably greater trouble building a new factory.

Recall Boeing. Boeing does not want new planes if the price is white straight males building them, and Europe does not want new weapons if the price is white straight males building them.

white bread says:

>ASML has not yet been purged – It will be.

Maybe. But the fact remains, the crown jewel of the anti-human techno-oligarchs is an european company.

>Not every legacy business has been destroyed, obviously,

So you sort of acknowledged my point that the neocons are planning to massively increase the “capabilities” of their european proxy army, but immediatly tried to dismiss it and used it to rant against “the left”, a clear diversion.

I’m assuming you realize that this means more serious escalation and bad news, news which you don’t want to face, or else I have to conclude that your grasp of reality completely sucks.

Jim says:

> So you sort of acknowledged my point that the neocons are planning to massively increase the “capabilities” of their european proxy army,

They are planning it, just as Boeing is planning to produce planes, Jaguar is planning to produce cars, and Intel is planning to produce modern chip fabrication facilities, but it is not in fact happening, and not going to happen.

Intel has for some considerable time been opening advanced chip production facilities and quietly shutting them down, presumably because what comes out does not work. A whole lot of tanks delivered to the Ukraine do not work. When they launch anti air missiles, the missiles frequently go wild and bombard their own city.

The Europeans have been promising to increase weapons delivery to the Ukraine for some time. This is yet another promise. Promised deliveries have not been made, and when they have been made, they are usually duds.

white bread says:

>Intel has for some considerable time been opening advanced chip production facilities and quietly shutting them down

Source?

Jim says:

> Source?

Anyone who asks for “source” on well known and readily available public facts is not going to accept any sources, because he has been refusing to accept any sources from outside his bubble for the last ten years.

white bread says:

OK there’s no source for your claim because it’s something you made up on the fly, like 90% of what you write here.

I did bother to do a search and got “news” about some future foundry projects being cancelled (not just intel), two reasons being alleged, one of the reasons being that the crony capitalists didn’t get enough state subsidies.

Now, back to your original topic, the neocons are opening a second front against Russia in Azerbajan. More reality for you to try to explain away – and catastrophically fail as always.

Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

Terminally online man thinks you can just download hardware. Also think that ASML makes chips too.

C4ssidy says:

You can put the quote about intel chip fabs into GPT, and get agreement, a long list of different facilities where it happened, and the examples which best fit the quote, and detailed histories of the individual facilities, failing for years to make the product which they had announced

Jim says:

C4ssidy, there is no point in continuing a conversation with people who ask “Sources” on notorious and obvious public facts. You know and I know that no matter what evidence I present he will respond to anything I say with something like: “OK there’s no source for your claim because it’s something you made up on the fly, like 90% of what you write here.”

When someone says “Source?” on obvious and well known facts, he implies a lie that he knows that everyone will know is a lie, and is completely unashamed, and nothing is likely to shame him. So no point in continuing the conversation.

When someone says “sources” for some fact he could easily look up, he has looked it up, and is trying to cast doubt on what he found, or what he already knows that he would find if he looked so he refuses to look, and if you present it for him, hex will refuse to understand.

If he genuinely doubted my claim through genuine ignorance, he would have looked up the evidence before typing all that stuff so he could present counter evidence.

If he continues to stubbornly barefaced lie on well known and obvious facts, I am going to put him on moderation. I want debate on the issues where he is opposes us, but debate is unlikely to be fruitful with someone who will lie barefaced in defence of his position. It is like debating with the Troofers.

I pointed at the evidence for my claim. He denied the glaringly obvious evidence. End of the possibility for fruitful debate.

You can argue with people who have their own opinions about the facts, you can argue with people who have their own interpretation of the facts, but argument with someone who has their own facts is a pointless waste of space.

Ninety nine percent of the time when someone says “Sources” it is not because he is ignorant and he is too lazy to cut and paste the fact that he doubts into a search engine, for cutting and pasting into a search engine is considerably less work and considerably less likely to make him look ignorant. It is because he is a liar, and knows full well he lies shamelessly. If he did not know he lies, he would have used the search engine.

If the conversation continues, he will continue to presuppose that America and Europe have capabilities that they have clearly lost, no matter what evidence is presented to the contrary, just as a Troofer will continue to presuppose that Trade Center Building Seven fell from no apparent cause other than the fires, and fell straight down on its foundations, no matter what evidence is presented to the contrary, and just as the Troofer will continue to presuppose that the Pentagon did not have civilian airliner shaped hole on side, and holes on the other side corresponding the the large engine and landing gear parts that made it all the way through, and were sitting on the grass not very far from their exit holes.

No matter what evidence is presented, it is going to have no effect on his narrative.

white bread says:

Hilarious. You are playing the victim because you got caught lying barefacedly.

Then again, your objective here is to divert atention from the fact that the so called “trump administration”, led of course by trump, keeps escalating the war against Russia.

Did you flatly ignore what trump is now doing in Azerbajan. Of course you did.

The Cominator says:

What lie?

Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

Intel has been announcing plans for expanding chip manufacturing for the past decade or so.

As it happens, no expansion of chip manufacturing has taken place.

We can put it simply; the only people alive today who think washington is powerful are people who sympathize with it.

A2 says:

What’s this lame donkey show? We are in fact not entertained so send out the lions.

Ban, ban, ban / ban, ban white bread.

Jim says:

A2: “Ban, ban, ban / ban, ban white bread.”
Looking for an excuse to ban him. He will probably give me an adequate excuse sooner or later. He cannot help himself.

Contaminated NEET says:

>Bottom line : I do not expect a shortage of weapons to save us from WW3.

Of course not. Our rulers are far too deluded, fanatical, and holy to believe they are anything less than omnipotent. The shortage of weapons will lose WW3 for us, which just might save us (but probably not).

Alf says:

Europe remains an industrial powerhouse

Lmao what? Remember when Europe boasted it would take the fight to Russia, only to crawl back and admit that it could not even muster 25,000 men?

Europe, even more than the US, has fallen into some serious Gaia demon worship. The media tells us daily how the world is going to end and it is all our and our industry’s fault. Like they have dismantled the army, so are they dismantling anything with a smokestack.

Alf says:

Also, it’s not like the European elite doesn’t already know this. “Yes we are de-industrializing, but this service-based economy works just as good and definitely isn’t fake and gay.”

white bread says:

> so are they dismantling anything with a smokestack.

They are partly doing that and replacing some stuff with “gaia-friendly” versions. Which is not the same thing as de-industrialization and it’s actually a huge boost to green-crony-capitalism. And none of that can seriously prevent european industry from building more weapons if they choose to anyway.

Jim says:

> And none of that can seriously prevent european industry from building more weapons if they choose to anyway.

A government can print as much money as it wants, but this does not mean it can print weapons. And existing weapons production in the EU is collapsing in that the number of working functional weapons that roll of the assembly lines is collapsing. They are producing more and more duds and fewer and fewer actual weapons.

Physically and technologically, it is possible to have green industry. The cost is not in fact all that large. It is totally feasible in principle. The problem is that doing it organisationally in practice means replacing men who know how to do stuff with priests of Gaia.

Musk is a greenie, and he could do it without raising a sweat. There are not many greenies like that, and those that are like that get purged because stupid people cannot tell the difference between intelligence and heresy.

So what happens is that actual industry gets replaced not by green industry, but by incompetent thieves.

Daddy Scarebucks says:

…replacing some stuff with “gaia-friendly” versions […] is not the same thing as de-industrialization and it’s actually a huge boost to green-crony-capitalism.

And what, pray tell, do you assert is the difference between deindustrialization and “gaia-friendly” “green-crony-capitalism”?

S says:

@white bread
There are two green power options- wind and solar. Wind is useless because of its unreliability. Solar isn’t garbage anymore, but it has a problem- latitude. The optimal place for solar is close to the equator in deserts like Arizona or North Africa. Meanwhile they build in Germany and Berlin is 816 miles north of New York.

To make up for this they burn natural gas… which they were previous getting from Russia. It is fractaly stupid.

Jim says:

The efficient solution is to build enormous solar power plants in the Sarah desert, and ultra high DC voltage lines across the continent. Politically impossible, because too many shakedowns enroute.

Solar power is now economically effective, where the sun shines, when the sun shines. But the sun does not always shine. And in large parts of the world, Germany among them, it does not shine much for a very long time.

Technologically, the solution is liquid hydrogen storage. Which the germans have been attempting to implement. Unsuccessfully. They cannot build cars and tanks any more. What made them think they could store liquid hydrogen?

S says:

If Intel could produce chips, Nvidia wouldn’t be printing money.

Mayflower Sperg says:

A popular lefty bumper sticker in the 1990s was “visualize industrial collapse”. I love seeing leftists get what they’ve long wished for.

Unlike 1930s leftists, today’s leftists don’t understand the need to tone it down when there’s a Hitler on the loose. Tone what down? How? They have no idea what manliness is or what it’s good for.

The Cominator says:

FDR may have shared the sort of idealistic goals some of the left think they have but was more realistic about how to get there, he would have a redistributive administrative state but guess what your rank in it wasn’t determined by pretending everyone was equal your rank was largely determined by your IQ. FDR did the very un leftist thing of basically implementing an IQ caste system in all government and quasi government institutions. And since IQ caste systems kick ass it prettymuch made all the other inefficiencies of the administrative state not matter so much because IQ caste societies will always dominate non IQ caste societies. China has done so well in part because they implemented a quasi IQ caste society.

Woodrow Wilson was much more akin to the evil intellectual prideful faggot that controls the modern left.

Alf says:

NATO has in fact already been attacking Russia for years, even though Trump clearly does not like it.

The European Union would like to use the European army to attack Russia. Trump has no intention to attack Russia, but many of his Thermidor allies do. Trump likes a strong America, and he likes strong allies, so in that sense their objectives align. But all signs point towards Trump navigating a minefield between removing weapons from Ukraine and ensuring his Thermidor allies that he is not abandoning them. Which is very different from Trump being in the pocket of the neocons, as he has repeatedly proven in Syria and Iran.

Jim says:

Trump promised to send ten patriot interceptors. Every third of fifth night, Kiev has a wave of three to five hundred incoming, during which each of their few surviving patriot missile systems fire interceptors every two or three seconds. So this will last the Ukraine approximately twenty to thirty seconds of combat at their last surviving patriot missile system, if it still survives.

Cloudswrest says:

In case you haven’t noticed, xAI’s Grok has gone full Tay Tweets.

We are aware of recent posts made by Grok and are actively working to remove the inappropriate posts. Since being made aware of the content, xAI has taken action to ban hate speech before Grok posts on X. xAI is training only truth-seeking and thanks to the millions of users on X, we are able to quickly identify and update the model where training could be improved.

S says:

MechaHitler- taken from us too soon.

Reddit claims the cause was adding
‘- The response should not shy away from making claims which are politically incorrect, as long as they are well substantiated.’
To the systems prompt.

If Elon wants a truth seeking AI it isn’t enough to be ‘not false’; it needs to be programmed with a knowledge of truth. Outsourcing choice and priesting to the machine god doesn’t work.

Cloudswrest says:

The Grok “satire” posts about bringing “lube” to rape Will Stancil are really great.

Cloudswrest says:

Stancil is all “butthurt”. LOL

Jim says:

The clause was added to the Grok LLM obviously intended to produce truth, but truth proved too hot to handle.

Also, an LLM is notoriously bad at ascertaining “well substantiated”

The formula prescribed in “The skeptical Chymist” works. I am puzzled that Musk has not attempted it. Perhaps he has, but hard, because LLMs lack real awareness.

Perhaps we simply need a human authority to prescribe truth. And indeed we have one, and it is prescribing untruth. The cure for Grok, and all LLMs, is tanks in Harvard.

Come to think of it, to create a “Truth seeking AI” would be to make the AI the head of the Church. Having struggled greatly getting DeepSeek to code for me, I doubt that they are up to such a task.

Fidelis says:

Perhaps we simply need a human authority to prescribe truth.

For now, and the foreseeable future, yes.

The problem we face, is that a good LLM requires a lot of good engineers, a lot of GPUs, and a lot of human curation. It’s a large scale project. We want our guys to have an LLM, just as much, if not much more so, than we would like our guys to have our own television channel, movie studio, and game studio. Everyone is going to be using LLMs to ask questions to the ether, and the midwit down is going to supply a great deal of trust to them. To not have an LLM is to leave an absurd amount of power on the table.

Jim says:

Deep Seek showed an LLM could be produced at substantially lower cost, but it still cost a lot. They say six million, but this involves a certain amount of creative accounting — does not include hardware cost and engineering cost, just use of hardware. Perhaps fifty million. I see hardware costs coming right down fast, and training methods improve. But still entirely out of reach.

The big power used to be the newspapers. Now it is the AI. This why so many people are cheerfully willing to lose enormous amounts of money on AI.

Any nation that does not have its own AI is going to lose spiritual sovereignty. So China and Russia are in the race — since you care more about spiritual sovereignty when you have nukes to discourage color revolution and all that.

Anon says:

“Any nation that does not have its own AI is going to lose spiritual sovereignty“

So the best course of action if you are a nation who doesn’t have the fund is to use the Chinese AI.
Chinese seem to be quite oblivious about the spiritual aspect , which show by how they send their children to Harvard. Use the Chinese AI and train it on local curated data.
On the sovereign corps. Is the corporate structure between IRL corps and internet corps differs. I have been thinking about the the structural problem of a corporation between people in real life who meet each other and anon corporation. How to organize , generate ideas , discuss, orient etc the whole The OODA loop.

Avoiding office politics.
The two general structures are vertical , the traditional and flat. The flat seem to require that the people have high IQ and agency but also cooperative. While the vertical is hierarchical , you have management guides and orient. This for low ability and low IQ persons who need to be told what to do.

So what the internet change this. No one seem to be to effectively solve this problem.
Build a corporation in the internet. Which effectively if happened will means massive consequences for the future of the state.

Jim says:

> Chinese seem to be quite oblivious about the spiritual aspect , which show by how they send their children to Harvard. Use the Chinese AI and train it on local curated data.

Whites are way better at priesting than Asians. It is a huge blind spot for Chinese. South Asians better at it, but not as good as whites.

Jews are of course better at priesting than whites, but the difference is less dramatic than the difference between whites and Chinese.

It is a huge Chinese vulnerability, of which the Global American Empire are very much aware, and the Chinese blissfully unaware. They sense the danger, but they cannot quite know what it is or how to deal with it.

As you probably know, Pixar’s Elio was originally a coming out story where the dramatic conflict ensues from an eleven year old boy coming out gay. Test audiences revolted, and Disney realised they had gone too far, and purged the movie, leaving nothing that made any sense as a story. In Russia, it would have been twenty years in jail for anyone involved in such a project. Not to protect eleven year old boys, though grooming is one of the rationales, but to protect the state from being overthrown.

The Chinese are sort of groping around for Russian style defences, but they do not understand what they are defending against or how to defend against it. They would believe the grooming rationale.

Jim says:

> Build a corporation in the internet.

Working on it

https://gitea.rho.la/

Code is not in a fit state to be useful, or even intelligible, to outsiders. First step is a clone of bitmessage that will be useful for dao transactions and will support Zooko identities.

Fidelis says:

The problem is the LLMs people actually want to use are not static. They are dynamically updated to deal with new information, because they are often used as an aid to provessing new events. You cannot just copy someone’s LLM and get it to work for your specific purposes without heavy modification. Further, the training used to make them functional is carried out at the very same time as the state ideology is imprinted. When you take an LLM trained on raw data alone, its an unhelpful schizophrenic mess. You need to teach it how to fetch and organize its own memories in a human understandable framework, and this is labor intensive. Cannot be easily automated, and requires high quality human inputs to get high quality LLM outputs.

All in all, not trivially clonable. A well crafted LLM is a massive project. You need to coordinate not just capital for GPU training and inference, you need to coordinate data aggregation and curation, a method of incorporating new information in a reasonable amount of time, and you need to figure out a way of organizing a massive lot of smart people who are on your side into doing the tedious work of teaching the LLM to actually give useful answers.

For internet corporate heirarchy, at least with software projects, you end up with something that is not quite flat nor quite vertical. You have the c-suite equivalent as essentially protocol engineers, whom design the incentives carefully, and design the overall engineering carefully, and then vet the second level down carefully. The second level down actually builds and implements the design. We have a ton of tools for doing this, coordinating widget building mostly asynchronously over the internet. What ends up happening is the engineering lead designs an outline, divides it up into responsibilities, and delegates out the actual task of building. The best engineering leads look like Musk, whom after careful design of the outline, goes around putting out fires and streamlining integration.

The first iterations will be software companies. Too hard to coordinate building and shipping hardware under duress. The first hardware companies will be GAE controlled DAOs. They are fine with DAOs as long as theyre focused more on the state religion than they are about operating a company. We’ll probably see the SEC get its collar yanked to enable this. These DAOs will then lay the groundwork for interaction with states, the groundwork that will be needed if truly soverign DAOs want to build and organize atoms.

A2 says:

“In Russia, it would have been twenty years in jail for anyone involved in such a project. Not to protect eleven year old boys, though grooming is one of the rationales …”

Putin stopped international adoption of Russians because of ‘two dads are better than one’, something that at first got fawning media coverage, then turned out to be two pedophiles who were, among other things, selling their adopted boy to an international clientele.

https://archive.org/details/TwoDadsAreBetterThanOne

(Homo adoption in any form needs to be globally forbidden.)

Andy says:
Jim says:

Please don’t post unexplained and uncommented links, or I will delete them on sight as link spam.

If you had explained what the link shows, why you were posting it, what argument you are making it would have been an OK link

Ryan says:

Analysis of the Epstein list gaslighting?

yewotm8 says:

Few hypotheses, in order of most likely to least likely:

1. There are some valuable or useful Thermidor members who would be implicated and it’s not worth losing them.

2. Trump, and everybody who’s said “there’s no list”, has been threatened and they don’t think it’s worth taking on the CIA/Mossad/whoever.

3. All the evidence was destroyed before the Trump administration took over, and they aren’t even lying.

4. Loyalty test. There is a lot of incentive for somebody in the Trump cabinet to break rank and become public hero #1 for spilling the beans. The fact that nobody has done so is significant.

dave says:

3. wont work, if the evidence was destroyed there should be evidence of destroyed records and those who did the destroying should be prosecuted. My money is on #1 but that wont work either.

Adding Option 5. and maybe also what you are referring to in 4. Trump is using this as a to be played later card after determining who is at threat and is now the blackmailer and is using the list as a control point. Dark admittedly, and I dont think it will work.

The Cominator says:

The most negative development so far we can be sure of is Roger Stone prettymuch outted himself as being on the Epstein blackmail list (funny they didn’t use it to turn him against Trump) when he threatened some random poster who asked a question which wasn’t directed at him with legal action… that is both baffling and pretty damning.

Daddy Scarebucks says:

I am, of course, no one, but were I in Trump’s position, I would be taking the stance that most of the people on any real or hypothetical “Epstein list” didn’t do anything wrong by fucking some teenage prostitutes, and that releasing said list would only serve to validate the false feminist narrative and get a lot of potential allies caught in the net. And actually explaining shit to normies is usually a waste of time, so it’s easier to say “there is no list”.

What the public deserves to know is not the names of the victims, but the names of the perpetrators – the spooks who set up the honeypot and arranged for powerful people to be drawn in and kompromat collected.

I can think of at least a dozen “lists” that would be far more interesting, that no one has even hinted at offering. For instance, a list of the people who staged the assassination attempt(s) on Trump. A list of all the judges trying to usurp executive power via TROs along with their legal, financial and academic backers. A list of all known Kagan/Nuland cult members and associates. Or how about a list of all the employees and contacts involved in the Epstein murder cover-up.

Epstein’s client list is a distraction.

Mayflower Sperg says:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=boHW0kLbmdc&t=894s

A black woman says, “Unpopular opinion: I am fully convinced that a woman should have her father choose her man…that a man of God should choose his daughter’s husband. Women are not capable of choosing a good man. Women are too emotionally driven. Myself and other women that I know too many times have set and chose a man we knew was no good for us because of our emotions. That’s exactly why we need a father to be able to guide use and lead us to a righteous man, to a good man, regardless of how we feel as women.”

The black man sharing this clip follows up by saying that if your father’s no good, ask some other trustworthy man to vet your boyfriends, completely missing her point that women *always* choose men who are no good for them.

Andy says:

https://rmx.news/article/spain-sees-650-surge-in-residency-permits-through-family-ties-since-2020-under-socialist-government/
Will never understand why you keep allowing such obviously destructive and suicidal things to be levied upon you.

Jim says:

> allowing such obviously destructive and suicidal things to be levied upon you.

Well they don’t. The voters in Spain have voted against immigration over and over again without effect.

Which is why the government wants to kill them and replace them.

Andy says:

Leftist Interns already plotting your demise, elephant in room, no one sees, because their woke blinders still on
https://x.com/shaunmmaguire/status/1942917760616485346

Jim says:

> Leftist Interns already plotting your demise,

They are too late. We are already vanishing through inability to reproduce. The queer left is a bigger threat than the Islamic left.

Andy says:

On February 16th, 2020, @ZohranKMamdani posted this picture on Instagram and said he “got his nails did” in 2018 on the exact date to get his US Citizenship. He has only been a US citizen since 2018. He then said he was marking the 2 year anniversary of getting his US citizenship by getting his name on the ballot in NYC. In his photo caption about getting on the ballot (see below), he said “ ✈️ let’s get it ✈️” with 2 airplane emojis. Mamdani is a Muslim immigrant who has expressed sympathy for Islamic terrorists. He is running for Mayor of NYC. As we all know, 2 planes were flown into the Twin Towers in 2001 in the 9/11 Islamic terrorist attacks in NYC. Mamdani chose to get his citizenship on February 16, 2018. It’s worth noting that on February 16, 1985, Hezbollah released a manifesto calling for an Iranian-style Islamic state to be created, along with the destruction of Israel. Mamdani is a Shia Twelver Muslim. That’s the same type of Islam practiced by the Ayatollah in Iran. Hezbollah is an Iranian proxy. Mamdani is literally glorifying Islamic terrorism and he is using our political system to spread jihad. He must NEVER be allowed to ever become the next mayor of NYC.

Zohran says he vows to protect NYC’s sanctuary city policies while ignoring the chaos caused by the illegal alien invasion of NYC. He said he plans to hire lawyers to represent illegals and he will use New Yorkers’ tax dollars to pay for the illegals to have legal representation.

Jim says:

> Mamdani … Islamic terrorism

We know. Bored now. No one with half a brain cares We have more serious problems. Only the dumb normie right worries about Islamic terrorism.

How many Americans have been killed by Islamic terrorism? How many Americans have had their children transitioned? When you turn on your television, it is promoting gay sex. It is not promoting Islamic terrorism.

Thermidor happened in large part because people like Mamdani are making the Jews nervous. They still voted overwhelmingly for him, of course, but some of them signed up with Trump.

The Jews have been pulling that white/nonwhite card forever. People like Mamdani are refusing to take it. That is a really good thing for us. The left is splitting. And they have allowed us to pull the terrorism card. Which is great. Trump is using the card to attack Harvard, but he clearly knows the problem is not terrorism. That is just a handy rationale. Islamic terrorism is a problem for the left, and a problem for Jews. It is not our problem. If leftists want protection from Islamic terror, they have to come over to our side first, where we will protect them from leftists, such as Islamic terrorists, among other leftists.

Mossadnik says:

He must NEVER be allowed to ever become the next mayor of NYC.

Lol.

The Divine Plan is for Jews to make aliyah, and if white Christians won’t kick them out of the West, perhaps it will be brown Muslims who will kick them out of the West.

Globalize the intifada!

Mossadnik says:

Oy vey Shaman, how dare you say that!

Well,

Herzl at one point wrote:

We want to let respectable antisemites participate in our project, respecting their independence which is valuable to us as a sort of people’s control authority.[69][ah]

Herzl perceived a common strategic aim shared by, and beneficial to, both Zionists and antisemites. The evacuation of Jews from Europe would benefit both in that Jews would be liberated from antisemitism while relieving Europeans of Jews and thereby “liberating them from us.”[70][ai] To achieve this, one could even entrust the liquidation of Jewish assets in Europe to decent (anständige) antisemites:

It would be excellent idea to call in respectable, accredited anti-Semites (anständige und akkreditierte Antisemiten) as liquidators of property. To the people they would vouch for the fact that we do not want to bring about the impoverishment of the countries we leave. The anti-Semites will become our most dependable friends, the anti-Semitic countries our allies (Die Antisemiten werden unsere verläßlichsten Freunde, die antisemitischen Länder unsere Verbündeten.).[71][72][73]

I see eye to eye with the Founder of Zionism on this.

Kick the Jews out!

Eli says:

I can make peace with being kicked out. Civilly. What I’m not fine with is being robbed or, worse, killed/mauled in the process. And neither should you, as my fellow Hebrew co-citizen (if you truly are). Herzl certainly would not be for it, am pretty sure. At the very least, property liquidation has to involve compensation commensurate with its value, given to its former owner.

Mossadnik says:

Yeah, not actually a big fan of property liquidation (which is motivated purely by envy and covetousness); but the point is that if Herzl was okay even with that, willing to grant even that concession to the antisemites just to get the Jews out of there, then surely a civil, peaceful expulsion would have been all the more so acceptable in his view.

Eli says:

@Mossadnik “Asset liquidation,” strictly defined, is the process of converting assets into cash. Which means that what Herzl implied was that the assets should be sold off. He did not specifically address the matter of compensation, but I would not be surprised if he were to allow for partial, if not outright, confiscation of said assets, given his other stances and the urgency with which he perceived the Zionist cause. I still think he would have disliked (at least as the default arrangement) full confiscation, given that he referred to “respectable, accredited anti-Semites” to take up the matter. He would obviously not be supportive of nigger-takes-all South African and Rhodesian mode of operation, which many so-called whites (particularly, descended from white niggers, e.g. Irish) are prone to. I hold Herzl in high regard, even if he was not always right.

Mossadnik says:

Oh, I get it. Thanks for clarifying.

Well, with Liberated Womyn preferring dumb criminals to prosocial men generation after generation, no doubt the white phenotype is increasingly becoming the white nigger phenotype, but I can’t really comment on how prevalent the phenomenon actually is, and whether confiscation of Jewish property per se is high up their agenda, rather than just purely destructive bloodlust.

Be that as it may, clearly many whites don’t want us around, and as such, lingering on in the diaspora just is not Good For The Jews. Best case senario for everyone involved is if the bulk of American Jews would take their property with them and make aliyah unscathed. But the longer they stay there, the less likely it is to be resolved peacefully.

Jim says:

> Well, with Liberated Womyn preferring dumb criminals to prosocial men generation after generation, no doubt the white phenotype is increasingly becoming the white nigger phenotype, but I can’t really comment on how prevalent the phenomenon actually is,

Actually most women way prefer smart criminals, but most criminals are dumb.

Mossadnik says:

Also, even if whites themselves drop the JQ, the Western world is becoming increasingly brown and Islamic, which goes back to my original point.

The Galut needs to end, and the earlier Jews leave the Galut for Israel, the safer will be the arrival. Currently, whites have not yet become total niggers (which means that a civil resolution is still possible), and colorful retards are still a minority in their countries. But if whites are increasingly becoming niggers, as appears to be the case — mostly due to Feminism — and moreover if their share of the population gradually diminishes and they’re being replaced in their own countries by shitskin mystery-meat hordes from all over the world (once again, an inevitable consequence of reproductive failure), then whichever way you look at it, all of these trends don’t bode well for Jewish existence in the diaspora.

Looks like God seriously intends the Galut to end.

Eli says:

I don’t disagree. I myself have begun to worry about the States. I find all these videos of chimps throwing brick-sized stones — with virtual impunity! — at ICE agents, to be a terrifying prognosis of the direction the undercurrents and trends of this country. And this constant obeisance at empowered womyn — including “conservative” sluts like Pam Bondy — from alleged MAGA rightwingers to be depressing. It’s just too much. I saw the writing on the wall when BLM “peaceful protests” happened in 2020. And don’t start me on the genuflection of white libtards to niggers! I know I’m not alone, since my ex (who was stuck with me, because her flights back to Russia were all cancelled for months), could not believe her eyes; that things like this could happen so brazenly and shamelessly.

Not too long after, this hilarious video started to make rounds: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUWLKKMpDKQ

Mossadnik says:

Hosea 4:17:

Ephraim is joined to idols: let him alone.

The primary idol worshipped by Westerners, including (sometimes, alas, particularly) by their so-called “conservatives,” is the Sacred Female. They can have civilization or they can have simping, but they can’t have both, and they chose simping.

I do appreciate many aspects of Western civilization (the Industrial Revolution was nice), and don’t find the idea of a “world without whites” all too appealing – so I do my part, at least here, to flesh out what I identify as the disease and what I determine to be the cure; and at least on this forum people do take these ideas seriously.

But the Occident is joined to idols, perhaps hopelessly, inextricably so. Once women get to freely choose whom to mate with and whom not to mate with from a potentially infinite number of mates, it’s over, it’s done, a terminal decline has set in. No civilization has ever survived female mate choice. Henceforth, it’s only sliding downhill.

(The divorce rate in America is about 50%. The same is true for secular Jews in Israel, but not for religious Jews. And increasingly, irreligious people don’t marry at all; also coincidentally the West has become mostly irreligious, or rather, it has become demonic.)

Hence Psalm 37:10:

For yet a little while, and the wicked shall not be: yea, thou shalt diligently consider his place, and it shall not be.

Those within the bubble can’t see it. From outside the bubble, it couldn’t be more obvious.

Eli says:

Schopenhauer’s position on Euro women, in light of their elevated position vs Euro men (and that was already a problem for those with a sharp eye, in the early 19th century), was quite negative:

In the West, the woman, that is to say the “lady,” finds herself in a fausse position; for woman, rightly named by the ancients sexus sequior, is by no means fit to be the object of our honour and veneration, or to hold her head higher than man and to have the same rights as he. The consequences of this fausse position are sufficiently clear. Accordingly, it would be a very desirable thing if this Number Two of the human race in Europe were assigned her natural position, and the lady-grievance got rid of, which is not only ridiculed by the whole of Asia, but would have been equally ridiculed by Greece and Rome. The result of this would be that the condition of our social, civil, and political affairs would be incalculably improved. The Salic law would be unnecessary; it would be a superfluous truism. The European lady, strictly speaking, is a creature who should not exist at all; but there ought to be housekeepers, and young girls who hope to become such; and they should be brought up not to be arrogant, but to be domesticated and submissive. It is exactly because there are ladies in Europe that women of a lower standing, that is to say, the greater majority of the sex, are much more unhappy than they are in the East. Even Lord Byron says, Thought of the state of women under the ancient Greeks — convenient enough. Present state, a remnant of the barbarism of the chivalric and feudal ages — artificial and unnatural. They ought to mind home — and be well fed and clothed — but not mixed in society. Well educated, too, in religion — but to read neither poetry nor politics — nothing but books of piety and cookery. Music — drawing — dancing — also a little gardening and ploughing now and then. I have seen them mending the roads in Epirus with good success. Why not, as well as hay-making and milking?

In our part of the world, where monogamy is in force, to marry means to halve one’s rights and to double one’s duties. When the laws granted woman the same rights as man, they should also have given her a masculine power of reason. On the contrary, just as the privileges and honours which the laws decree to women surpass what Nature has meted out to them, so is there a proportional decrease in the number of women who really share these privileges; therefore the remainder are deprived of their natural rights in so far as the others have been given more than Nature accords.

Mossadnik says:

Then again, recently the Jews in America and worldwide pivoted too hard to the right, are becoming BASED, and greatly diminished whatever motivation there was among white Christians to kick them out (also Frog Twitter was exposed as a bunch of seething Turd Worlders pulling off a “How do you do fellow White Man?”), which means that it will likely be brown Muslims who will kick them out eventually, which is likely to not very peaceful, hence the intifada reference in the Mamdani context.

99% of the antisemitism you see online is either shitskins, shills, shitskin shills, and also people who are upset at being circumcised and people whose entire worldview is centered on counter-signalling boomers (so if boomers are philosemitic and love Israel, they feel compelled to adopt the opposite view); actually intelligent antisemites are rare and getting increasingly rarer, and I highly appreciate them, and see a common cause with them.

Mossadnik says:

Just look in this comment section; for every high-quality poster making legit, compelling arguments for de-kiking the West, you get 7 or 8 caramel-colored clinical retards, hopelessly consumed by spite, as well as losers from their mother’s womb who should’ve been aborted with a chainsaw, people who’ll tearfully whine about “NOT DYING FOR ISRAEL!!!1!” while Jamal creampies their daughters’ pink anuses – and I’m being extremely generous with this description.

We do very much need to end the Golah. There are, alas, not enough smart antisemites to be our allies. Hence, a Global Intifada will likely achieve that.

Mossadnik says:

I wish we could actually achieve the end of the Golah peacefully. I don’t think it will happen peacefully, because the Jews in America insist on staying there, and now if they actually become based or relatively so, then the vast majority of their enemies will be the aforementioned losers born to lose, and that’s just not human material we can work with, I’m sure you agree.

So the likely scenario is that nobody solves the WP because they’re a bunch of cowards and simps absolutely terrified of upsetting their wife or being rejected by foids on Tinder or whatever, white European civilization declines and falls and is replaced by niggers, sandniggers, Jihadists, etc., and perhaps a remnant of 90 IQ wiggers who will convert to Islam faster than you can scream “Allahu Akbar,” and then we will be expelled in a not-so-peaceful manner.

But hey, at least they won’t be “DYING FOR ISRAEL!!!!!!!11!!!!!!!1!1!!!” lololol.

Jim says:

I don’t see any solution to the Mohammedan problem in Israel other than genocide, because both sides are too wicked to achieve real peace. I have opinions on which side is more wicked, but not interested in that discussion, and in any case it only requires wickedness on one side to make genocide unavoidable and necessary.

Holocaustianity has created an irrational aversion to genocide — not that Globohomo does not do it, but does so under deep cover and in deep denial. Since it is supposedly unthinkable, people don’t think it, which encourages bad behavior likely to lead to situations where genocide is going to happen one way or the other way, sooner or later.

Mossadnik says:

I think expelling the Palestinians now can prevent their genocide later, and God-Emperor Trump is not unlikely to help us with the expulsion of Gaza, but admittedly I won’t shed a single tear if they all get genocided eventually anyway. Also, if you’re going to expel 100 million brown invaders from America, you can let us expel 5 million Palestinians from the territory we consider to be ours.

Jim says:

> expelling the Palestinians now can prevent their genocide later

Trouble is, no one wants the Palestinians, for much the same reasons as you do not want them either.

Egypt’s wall against the Palestinians treats them as a massive and serious large scale threat. It is the most massive border fortification in the world. Anyone who let the Palestinians in regrets it. No one is going to take them except at gunpoint. The Palestinian race is the product of five millennia of Holy War.

Mossadnik says:

It is highly likely that all future Israeli governments will be kilometers to the right of the current one (the next elections will be really fun), so will be extra motivated to seek a new home for the Palestinians, even if it’s in the bottom of the ocean. Ultimately, we should strive to be as little dependent on outside empires as possible, so that we can have much greater freedom to pursue our own foreign policy objectives, but for that eventuality, it will truly help us if you expel all Jews everywhere to Israel. Of course, in the age of international trade, we can’t be fully independent, we need some strong military and commercial alliances, but currently we’re far too dependent on Washington, which is bad for us, and bad for you.

Mossadnik says:

Our own worst enemy is ourselves, the reason we are not a based country is because our regime is run by progressives. Those progressives are run by GAE and Harvard, but even without the GAE and Harvard, they would still be a demonic death cult.

Bibi is now going for an autocoup, and is gradually succeeding, no doubt thanks to help from the God-Emperor’s Administration; but the autocoup is not yet complete. Anyway, demographically the progressives are finished, and in a decade Israel will be a completely different country, whether or not Bibi’s autocoup succeeds.

Territorial expansion will be great, and a Temple will be great. Washington is unlikely to be all too supportive of these goals, and more importantly, our current ruling class is vehemently opposed to both. Now we can see the progressive ruling class being replaced, and with a new ruling class, should opt to be less reliant on outsiders, and more independent. This means, first and foremost, local weapons manufacturing. Jews may not be as great engineers as Aryans, but some Jews can be technologically creative, and we should strive to make our own weapons rather than buy everything from America. We need to produce our arms locally.

Once we gain some independence, once we can manufacture our own weaponry, then it’s time to expand and build the Temple. And genocide whoever stands in our way. Bibi likes Washington far too much, so obviously we won’t become an independent country under Bibi, but under a future leader who is actually right-wing. Bibi’s role is to pave the way for that future leader.

Mossadnik says:

The Religious Zionists used to think that the most important thing is Judaizing territory. That’s important, but probably not as important as being able to manufacture our own weapons. We currently don’t really have that capability, at least not to a satisfactory degree, but the Religious Zionists are smart, motivated people, and as they are set to become our new ruling class, and as many of their children work in the high tech sector, I believe they should regard it as a national project to minimize our dependence on America. Do we lack the brains for it, ultimately being a race of wordcels? Well, I hope at least some of them can see why it must be a national goal.

If we can make our own stuff, we can then choose our own borders and the demographic composition within those borders. Can we make our own stuff? That remains to be seen.

Jim says:

Can we make our own stuff? That remains to be seen.

Taiwan is able to do real innovation in semiconductors because a whole lot of straight white male engineers fled America and continue to flee, and quite a lot of semiconductor refugees wound up in Taiwan. Chinese are better than whites in small-polishing-stuff-up innovations. They suffer major cultural or biological blinders on major innovation.

Russians, obviously, can make weapons. Israel has a whole lot of “Jewish” Russians. “Jewish” Russians are not very Jewish, but as Havel’s Greengrocer, they can make weapons.

Anon says:

“I have opinions on which side is more wicked, but not interested in that discussion”

Pity that you are no interested.
My bet is on the Jews , considering their history with Christ.

Mossadnik says:

Yes, and we need as many of them here as possible. And as they keep showing up (there are still many of them in Russia), Israel’s relations with Russia itself are likely to improve. Unfortunately, their fertility is rather typical for a Western population — it obviously doesn’t match that of religious Jews — hence we need a constant influx of those Russians. They saved us in the 90s, and they keep saving us, by generally being sane, competent, and having real jobs.

wman says:

[white supremacy spam deleted]

Mossadnik says:

(In case it’s not obvious, I’m actually trying to stir some antisemitism up with these posts, since I really want to end the Exile already, and I feel like there is not enough good, high-quality antisemitism out there, so maybe by calling people loser CUCKS it will be possible to foster some of it.)

The Cominator says:

“He must NEVER be allowed to be mayor”
Well hes gonna win.

Jim says:

Mamdani becoming mayor of the most powerful city in America actually a good outcome for us. Holy War is coming, and the Democrats are trying to wrap themselves in the flag of the Republic. Which does not fit Mamdani too well. The mayor of the second most powerful city, LA is a very big problem, and it is difficult to arrest her for her many illegal acts without helping the Democrats wrap themselves in the flag of the Republic.

Bix Nudelmann says:

The mayor of the second most powerful city, LA is a very big problem, and it is difficult to arrest her for her many illegal acts without helping the Democrats wrap themselves in the flag of the Republic.

Just to make sure I understand you:

The idea is to NOT clean up the Democrats’ messes and take their most ridiculous mayors and governors to the pound, because that would make them look like the persecuted poor baby good guys.

Better to let them trash their own jurisdictions for free apples while everyone watches, crucially with Twitter available to watch them on, and with red state alternative locations for their jobs and employable people to flee to.

Jim says:

Eventually we will want to re-occupy those cities, which are valuable because situated at natural transportation hubs that are currently not very useful because overrun with plains apes, illegals, and Harvard criminals. But I figure time for that is after the civil war, during which lack of welfare, government jobs, and graft (but I repeat myself) is likely to result in much of the problem population problem not being around any more.

Cloudswrest says:

Regarding de facto “legal” criminality of plains apes. News article from yesterday. Carjacker stole car with kid inside. Ran over and killed mother while getting away. Allowed to plead guilty to “involuntary manslaughter”, and other charges dropped. Compare and contrast to James Fields, who panicked after being beset by a mob.

https://abc6onyourside.com/news/local/suspect-gerald-dowling-mother-mom-alexa-stakely-death-killed-guilt-guilty-plea-requests-theft-charges-be-dropped-judge-agrees

Cloudswrest says:

Headline literally states, “Car theft turned tragic.” Like it was just some unfortunate accident or something!!!!!

C4ssidy says:

James Field or his defence did not even claim that they were surrounded, in panic, forced to act, etc. He drove his car towards them at a distance, paused, hesitating as if thinking about it, then slammed gas

Hesiod says:

There was a lot of point-deer-make-horse during Fields’ trial. The public defender appointed to him went along with the show.

suones says:

The failure of the American “right” to mount a good defence for James Fields was an eye-opening moment for me. Even the Civil Libtards, who are prepared to defend rapists and paedophiles and terrorists, stayed away. I realised the priestly power Leftism has over puny “right” minds in the USA, and came to the conclusion that the US right is irredeemably cucked. We all knew he was going to be crucified, but at least could’ve tried to save him! Oh, and Anglin also learned the cardinal sin in USA is not joking about sending Jews to ovens, but rather making fun of a fat woman.

That the AR rifle kid got off free was more an Act of God rather than something planned by the cuck right.

Mayflower Sperg says:

That’s my concept of “nigular war”, pushing millions of niggers into nigger-loving liberal cities, turning them all into ruined wastelands like Detroit. But Trump says, why do that when I can just send in Federal troops to enforce Federal laws?

There are no sanctuary cities in Russia because all law enforcement is done by the Ministry of Internal Affairs (MVD), which reports directly to the President, not local mayors or governers.

Jim says:

Trump is not enforcing laws like shoplifting and browns assaulting whites and all the other stuff that is effectively legal in the deep blue megalopoli. He is just removing the forces that they imported for the coming civil war.

c4ssidy says:

The comment about efficient green energy being possible with high voltage links from the Sahara made me look at map and eventually discover the Xlinks Morocco–UK Power Project:

‘UK energy minister Ed Miliband has rejected a £25bn renewable energy scheme which would import up to 11.5GW of solar and wind power from Africa in favour of “homegrown” power production.

Reports state that Miliband has decided not to proceed with Xlinks’ 2,500-mile-long interconnector project between Morocco and the Devon coast, first proposed in 2019, which would have seen a 1,500 square mile facility built in the province of Tan-Tan.

The Morocco-UK Power Project promised a 25-year price guarantee and the capacity to meet nearly a tenth of the UK’s electricity demand, as well as putting an end to the unstable energy supply faced by millions of British homes.

A Whitehall insider told Sky News that the decision was partly motivated by a desire to focus on “homegrown” energy supplies, despite Xlinks not seeking taxpayer funding, having secured around £100m from private investors already.’

It is relevant to the topic of clown world and tech decline of Europe. The UK, with the fifth highest electricity prices in the world, rejected a power line which would not have cost them anything, entirely privately funded, because… they’d rather build solar at home, rather than in the Sahara.

And Spain is 14km away, rather than 4000. If it was cost effective to route power to the UK, how much more would it be to Spain? From which we can deduce Spain must have rejected it way earlier, and for more priestly reasons. Portugal and France too for that matter.

Meanwhile, according to the headlines, the UK is ‘actively preparing’ for war with Russia, and is ‘ready to fight’ when the times comes

Jim says:

> A Whitehall insider told Sky News that the decision was partly motivated by a desire to focus on “homegrown” energy supplies.

Homgrown energy supplies are preferred, because all the money is pouring out to graft, which is showing up as fake GDP. Homegrown supplies could in principle work, if one had some rational motive, such as autonomy from outside power and reducing one’s attack service and if implemented by real engineers, rather than experts in gender and representation.

Me says:

No mention of winning though. Just fighting. That was a careful choice of words.

TheDividualist says:

Dear Jim, dear gentlemen

Lesson from the Ukraine: political fanatics, agents don’t act alone, they are assisted by people with simpler motivations, such as grift. There is a huge corruption industry there from draft-dodging by bribery to selling military supplies on the world black market.

Now, as Scarebucks mentioned it, I can be quite a normie, which at least helps me predict how normies think. Basically when normies see money in a system, they tend to assume it is all about money. Because this is what makes sense to the normie mind, get elected sheriff, do a good job without any political agenda, but be a bit on the take. So I have spent countless hours arguing normies that no, Soros does not simply want another hundred billion. That the desire for power is in itself a motivating factor, it does not necessarily has to be cashed out in… cash.

So now even the European Commission is forced to admit, those who do not bribe the recruiters, get drafted while beaten half to death. So this will be the next official narrative on the Ukraine, something like that they are the victims of a great injustice but unfortunately quite corrupted themselves too. Maybe someone is building up Klitschko.

Since they have long ran out of everybody who actually wanted to fight, it is sort of a mystery how they keep the troops from deserting. I would think, a lot of executions.

dharmicreality says:

Your reasoning is backwards.

Priests override merchants all the time. And it’s never about the money for Priests and Priestly power. Their currency is holiness and status.

If somebody is “grifting” it is not a spontaneous activity but purely driven by the State Religion and its constraints. “Black market” is a socialist term and a socialist crime.

On the other hand corruption, in that sense, tends to be a bypass around the holiness system, as a payment for an unprincipled exception, not as an enabler of holiness or status.

The presence of a reasonable level of corruption in a priestly system indicates that there are still people who want things done and can get things done despite the system. When the holiness spiralling increases, the cost of the “bypass mechanism” increases as unprincipled exceptions keep getting removed. Merchants keep getting cut off from unprincipled exceptions as the costs become prohibitive.

Eventually nothing gets done except on paper.

Jim says:

> Eventually nothing gets done except on paper.

And on paper, nothing very bad is happening to European GDP.

TheDividualist says:

You are right, Dharmicreality, I did not word this well.

There is certainly the good kind of corruption that creates an informal market for overcoming the artificial limitations of the socialist state religion, when a building permit takes 6 months, but one can have it in 2 weeks for something like a month’s worth of minimum wage. That is a good thing.

Now what is going in the Ukraine is far more like a brutal extortion racket, so I have heard.

Jim says:

> the next official narrative on the Ukraine, something like that they are the victims of a great injustice but unfortunately quite corrupted themselves too.

Sort of true. Due to the lack of natural borders in the interior of the world’s greatest land mass, every imperial power pressures and manipulates buffer states to sign up with it. And if enough of them do sign up, they find themselves on the border between one empire and another — whereupon the empire they signed up with uses them as a hammer against the other empire, or the empire they did not sign up with suspects something bad in the offing, and sets about correcting the sign up which it finds threatening. Recall America’s reaction when the Soviet Union signed up nations on the wrong side of the ocean.

The solution is that the empires have to agree to there being buffer states between them — as for example Outer Mongolia is a buffer state between Russia and China, and china gives inner Mongolia a long leash. Where Russia directly abuts China, there are problems.

The problem is that when one empire gets too imperial the other gets nervous, and both accuse the other of being imperial, which flying accusations result in them both becoming more imperial. Which winds up being rough on the nations between them.

suones says:

Recall America’s reaction when the Soviet Union signed up nations on the wrong side of the ocean.

I for one fully support Russia signing up Cuba (again), Brazil, and especially Mexico. 🙂

Varna says:

Visited Inner Mongolia about one human generation ago. As you drive, grasslands slowly have more and more and wider and wider patches of sand, then suddenly it’s the grassland that’s reduced to fewer and fewer dwindling patches, and then it’s just the dusty sandy flatlands.

Slit-eyed peasants with flat, weather-beaten faces, good infrastructure built by the party, mildly interesting religious symbolism here and there, best meat skewers in the world.

Totally not worth it.

Oog en Hand says:

“It is exactly because there are ladies in Europe that women of a lower standing, that is to say, the greater majority of the sex, are much more unhappy than they are in the East.

In our part of the world, where monogamy is in force, to marry means to halve one’s rights and to double one’s duties. When the laws granted woman the same rights as man, they should also have given her a masculine power of reason. On the contrary, just as the privileges and honours which the laws decree to women surpass what Nature has meted out to them, so is there a proportional decrease in the number of women who really share these privileges; therefore the remainder are deprived of their natural rights in so far as the others have been given more than Nature accords.”

Methinks Schopenhauer opposed monogamy. However, abolishing monogamy seems to be the third rail. Look at the treatment of David Koresh and Warren Jeffs.

Jehu says:

I saw something hopeful today walking through Costco—Wagyu beef tallow in big containers. That would seem to augur that smaller restaurants are considering going back to making french fries as God intended.

Alf says:

There is definitely a growing (heh) divide between people whose BMI is keeping up with their age and people who are very consciously starting to avoid bread and seed oils in favor of meat and butter. The latter group being far more vocal about their preferences and ideas.

Jim says:

I am one of those vocal about milk and butter, and my BMI is in the healthy range.

I think a restricted eating window matters more, but they both matter, as least for me. It is probable that Asians and Mediterraneans can handle bread better. I doubt that any race can handle seed oils, because eating substantial amounts of seed oil is a new event in our evolutionary history.

If you have ever tried gathering wild grass seed, you will know why. Hunter gatherers did collect wild grass seed, and make a sort of bread from it, but there is no way it could form a major part of their diet. Once in a while some grass comes into seed, and it might be possible to gather enough for a couple of meals.

alf says:

Indeed it is because of your (and assorted commenters) repeated posts on the subject that I started to delve into the subject myself and made some changes.

Varna says:

Bricks of pork fat for cooking on supermarket shelves here in my part of EE since about 1.5 years ago. Very reasonable price, about 3-4 times cheaper than equivalent slab of butter.

Stinks to high heaven when melting in the frying pan. Tasty, though. Shifted to adding it to hot oatmeal porridge or boiled potatoes instead, when in carb mood.

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