A prediction corrected

Shortly after the 2020 election, I predicted that Trump would be arrested within a few months, followed in due course by an ever increasing number of Republicans, and would in due course be Epsteined, executed, or disappeared.

It rapidly became apparent that this prediction was on Musk time. The conspirators that stole the election, like the conspirators who murdered Caesar, expected and intended to return to normality by abnormal means. And normality means the continued existence of a significant Republican party, and allowing them a little bit of the gravy.

Which becomes difficult when your violent unpopularity is grotesquely obvious. You cannot have normality while moving lefter and lefter, faster and faster. Leftism is smashing the economy, causing staglation, leftism is heading hard fast into world war three, leftism has legalized robbery and murder, and leftism is turning school grades four to eleven into gay child whorehouses. (Child protection services could not keep up with demand) The war on food is just beginning in the US, but it has gone over the top in Denmark.

I did not believe then, and do not now believe, that this intent can be accomplished. Too many actions motivated by gross hostility to normal Americans have been taken, and more are coming down the pipeline, faster and faster. I have taken some bets on the outcome of the 2022 elections. I bet that Republicans will be thoroughly denied power at every federal level, but am no longer betting that they will be denied even the job of dogcatcher in dogpatch.

Soros has also concluded that a return to normality is impractical.

Soros calls for implementation of my prediction: Eliminate the Republican party by any means necessary

The public votes peace and prosperity. We have war and stagflation. It is completely obvious that anything resembling an honest election would be a Republican landslide, and that what Soros has in mind is nothing that resembles an honest election.

Things are grim now, and are going to get a whole lot grimmer soon. The Republic is past its use by date, and all that remains is for a sufficient number of normies to wake up to the new reality. Which is happening, but resolving the crisis does not appear possible now. It looks like we are on the path where stability is restored by a Stalin or the Thermidorians and Napoleon, rather than a Cromwell, let alone a Sulla or a Suharto.

In this crisis, we should not now prepare for victory, but rather for preserving technological capability and the capacity to organize in an increasingly hostile environment. We should act to maintain the capability to act when more favorable circumstances arise.

In the Trump years, I hoped and expected for favorable circumstances to arise, but when the time came, Trump, in the memorable phrase of namefag Yarvin, fished in the Rubicon.

When it became obvious that an election steal was being prepared, Trump called in the lawyers when he should have called out the militia.

Today, an honest election requires the measures employed by Caesar and the NSDAP, which are such as to produce one honest election once. Regular honest elections require a somewhat virtuous elite, which is gone and not coming back until a generation or two of good leadership by good Kings.

In the early Republican primaries, the Republican party was able and willing to hold free and honest primary elections, which of course quite predictably led to ultra maga landslides, what I would call the Christian national capitalist faction of the Republican party.

Then there was a sudden change, in which blatantly rigged primaries produced cuckservative landslides.

I will not rehearse the evidence that these were rigged, because that buys into the enemy frame, that if they call it an election, it is an election unless you can prove it is not.

This is a reversal of the burden of proof. It is for the winner to prove he was honestly elected, not for the loser to prove he was not. Elections must be conducted in such a way that there is proof that the outcome was legitimate. If they are not conducted in this way, it is because the winner knows he will not be able to prove that. And in these elections were deliberately conducted in a way that makes it impossible for the winner to prove he was honestly elected.

Well, that might suffice to satisfy our enemies that they can tolerate a mild mannered cuckservative outerparty. And that is their clear intention and hope. A hope that seems to be being dashed.

The abortion ruling was to throw some red meat to the Republican base, so that they would not abandon the cuckservative party, without which the appearance of normality could not be continued. But it does not seem to be continuing anyway, rendering the cuckservative party useless to our masters. A substantial fraction of the left seem to view any political activity that would give the Republican party the superficial semblance of meaning and purpose as an intolerable affront.

In any left on left conflict, the faction promising to immanentize the eschaton wins, and faction promising business as usual loses. Keeping a fake Republican party on life support is getting in the way of immanentizing the eschaton. Biden and company are trying to do both, and are falling between two stools. Which is what I expected to happen, but I expected it to happen a whole lot faster.

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1,524 Responses to “A prediction corrected”

  1. Severian says:

    Pelosi visit seems inevitable now and the PLA is set for exercises. I don’t think the Chinese will cause an incident. They have their own timetable for Taiwan and probably wont be baited into conflict earlier than they like.

    Worst case maybe they try to seize one of the smaller islands.

  2. Starman says:

    Just a guess.

    The schedule F thing from Trump/Thiel, where 50,000 middle managers in DC get replaced by an army of Trump/Thiel loyalists, I wonder if that is what the “American Triumvirate” would look like?
    Factions and marginal elites within the American Empire form their own permanent alt-USGs that then staff whenever their executive figurehead is installed in an executive position or two.

    • Pooch says:

      What’s interesting about the Roman Triumvirates is that the members didn’t really like each other on a personal level. It was an uneasy alliance. When Crassus died, it became obvious to every Roman that Caesar and Pompey were now vying for the throne, likely to the death. Same with Octavian and Anthony.

      Not sure what Trump and Thiel’s relationship is like or even what Thiel’s ultimate motives are. There is clearly bad blood between Trump and Musk. If Musk were to turn around and end up joining the Trump/Thiel alliance, that would be very reminiscent of a triumvirate.

      • Starman says:

        @Pooch

        You are taking the term “Triumvirate” too literally.

        I don’t mean multiple Roman politician-generals with personal legions as centers of power, but multiple permanent alt-USGs as centers of power.

        With Trump/Thiel/etc. in Florida being just one of these alt-USGs.

        An American “Triumvirate” isn’t going to look like a Roman Triumvirate.

  3. Severian says:

    The US has dropped Tawain from its Indo-Pacific tour.
    It appears that they backed out, unless they plan a surprise visit.

    • Globalist Power Terminated II says:

      Goddamn… I had my popcorn ready and everything.

      • Severian says:

        Well looks like it’s back on. Tawain and other sources say she’s going tomorrow night.
        China has been unusually aggressive in their rhetoric so I’m expecting unusually aggressive actions.
        Not that I think they’ll shot down a plane, but they will do something.

        • jim says:

          It looks like the faction that is not too keen on a two front external war because they were planning war on legacy Americans is announcing she is not going, and the faction that wants to conquer the world is announcing that she is going.

          This is similar to Hitler declaring war on America when he was up to his armpits in Russians. Except that Hitler was able to make decisions.

          Fauci, who was the point man for war on legacy Americans has just announced he will “resign” at the end of Biden’s term, which is an indication that war on the world is on. Biden’s handlers do not want World War III, but as I predicted, are finding it difficult to control events.

          Biden’s handlers appear to be employing the real Biden during his rapidly diminishing lucid moments, while the war party appear to using a deep fake video of Biden.

          But this all Kremlinology. I don’t know what is going on, and the people at the center of the various conspiracies do not know either, because though they know what their own conspiracy is up to, they do not know what the other conspiracies are up to.

          • Ghost says:

            Possibly poking both dragon and bear simultaneously in effort to thin herd. Dems want to bring death to our door.

            • skippy says:

              This was also my thought when the Covid-Presse started running “nuclear war is fun” stories during the early Ukraine days. Nuclear war kills whites on both sides. Not clear they don’t want it regardless who wins.

        • Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

          ‘Congress is a separate branch of government. We know Mr. Xi understands this. Pelosi can make her own decisions for her travel plans.’

          Example no. 9001 illustrating how ‘separation of powers’ is just another word for ‘laundering of responsibility’.

          If Pelosi is a unilateral actor, then there would be no problem with just blowing up her plane right?

          Or if you would have a problem with that, then if she is your responsibility, then why can’t you control her, or act like what she does doesn’t reflect your intentions as well?

          More and more, with each day that goes by, the GAE literally cannot stop embarrassing itself as a deeply unserious clownshoes outfit, filled with hacks milling about each other like a pack of headless chickens.

  4. Severian says:

    I wonder what will happen with the Pelosi visit to Taiwan.

    Chinese authorities are issuing warnings of the most serious kind. Interesting to see who blinks first.

    • Pax Imperialis says:

      At the same time the F-35 is being grounded over ejection seat safety issues.

      At the same time Pelosi is being encouraged by Mcconnell to go there.

      At the same time China asserts it has the authority to enforce airspace over Taiwan.

      Almost like Pelosi is really disliked… and if the Chinese get rid of her it would be convenient in multiple ways.

      • Severian says:

        As Zero Hedge said, the world would lose a legendary investor.

      • notglowing says:

        Convenient for you maybe, not for them. Don’t see the Chinese assassinating some random unpopular American political figure, with the result of not weakening the US by any measure, and instead possibly giving them a casus belli.

        If Pelosi died I would blame the CIA.

        • Kunning Drueger says:

          Can’t forget that the Pelosi franchise was a CCP source for decades as well.

        • jim says:

          When you draw a line in the sand, it is casus belli.

          The question then is, will they call the Chinese bluff, and are the Chinese bluffing?

          This is reminiscent of conversation that Trump had with Ayatollah Ali Khamenei. Trump draws a line in the sand. “You can’t do anything”, tweets Ayatollah Khamenei. The shills are out in force saying that China can’t do anything. If they say it enough, they will start to believe it.

          There is a great deal China can do. The question is: will they do it?

          One possibility is that they do nothing, and lose face. Another possibility is that they do something, and Global American Empire backs down hastily and loses face. There is, however, a third possibility.

          I am betting on Global American Empire losing face, while announcing, loudly announcing, Baghdad Bob style, a great triumph that no one believes.

          China and Russia’s huge vulnerability is computer chips, which are absolutely central to warfare in the information epoch. China seems to believe it has a fix. We shall soon see if they do.

          • jim says:

            > and saw and pointed out when there was an inflection point in the sentiment.

            It did not appear to me that the inflection point had anything to do with the facts on Covid becoming apparent. They had been apparent for some time and did not suddenly become more apparent.

            Putin cured Covid, much as Hitler cured first wave feminism in the Anglosphere.

            The conquer-the-remaining-world faction wants to keep the destroy-Amerikaners-now faction in check.

            • skippy says:

              To be fair the Ukraine happening coincides with the Omicron death rate collapse. Which was officially implicitly denied (“the death rate has dropped due to vaccination” even though vaccination took place over months and the death rate collapsed in the space of a week or so) but people had noticed. This is one thing that leads to be believe that the US forced Putin’s hand somehow in Ukraine.

              • Red says:

                This is one thing that leads to be believe that the US forced Putin’s hand somehow in Ukraine.

                He was by Biden’s move to add Ukraine to NATO. One of the factions in the US government wanted to end the COVID madness and they used war with Russia as the way out. The left is ever holiness spiraling in one direction or another.

          • Starman says:

            @jim

            “One possibility is that they do nothing, and lose face. Another possibility is that they do something, and Global American Empire backs down hastily and loses face.”

            Avoiding losing face is much, much more important for the Chinese government’s legitimacy, than avoiding losing face is for the Global American Empire, whose face has lipstick and drag queen mascara on it.

            • Globalist Power Terminated II says:

              I like this guy.

              • Kunning Druegger says:

                You should. he’s OG. we’ve had our differences, and I’m pretty sure he loathes me (who doesn’t amirite lmao), but starman is a motherfuckin G what take no shit from no man, woman, or tranny.

    • oh totally says:

      [*deleted for disconnect from observed reality*]

      • jim says:

        We get plenty of that in the mainstream media.

        I would allow it through so that we can debate it here, but my presupposition is that you are not going to debate it.

    • oh totally says:

      I’ve gone from being a huge Anglin supporter to [*deleted*]

      • jim says:

        If previously a “huge Anglin supporter” name the Jew who is at present most active in screwing up our country.

        You cannot. He can and does. You hate him for speaking the truth you dare not speak.

      • Globalist Power Terminated II says:

        I’Ve GoNe fROM BeIng a HUgE anglIN suPPoRTeR

        With an intro like that, you know for sure that this man wrote some dumb shit.

        • Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

          The only bad thing i have to say about Anglin is that he needs better taste in late 20th century music industry product.

          Like c’mon bro, how can you sit here linking me grunge while poopoohing on the eagles at the same time. Smh tbh fam.

          • Kunning Druegger says:

            Under the shade of your basedness, I will heartily agree. I would NEVER have said it otherwise, St. Anglin is not to be mocked by his lessors. There truly is no accounting for taste in all things. A friend of mine still enjoys dubstep, for goodness sake.

            • Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

              I can sympathize with being in the position of linking gems in generas full of shit. Lord knows i could even tell you about my favorite Slick Rick numbers (rap of course took a turn for the even worse when the glow-in-the-darks started astroturfing the ‘gangsta’ psyop).

              It’s just, yannow, you gotta be more discerning about it.

    • Red says:

      Reading the reddit thread on the attack was hilarious. Comment after comment by shills all insisting Russia hit their own prison with guided missiles.

  5. Anon says:

    pelosi plan left the US mainland heading asia

    https://twitter.com/AndyBxxx/status/1553299570339495936

    for those not following; Pelosi announced she will visit Taiwan, china threatened if pelosi tried to reach Taiwan it will not allow it, implicitly ” it will shoot her plane down”
    I always thought pelosi was one of “the return to normality “elites.
    guess I was wrong.
    next 72hr may decide history.

    • oh totally says:

      Also, for the record, putitng this here ahead of time so I can “I told you so” afterward:

      China will not dare to do a goddamn thing about Pelosi. They will do NOTHING. And they will pretend, after the fact, that they were being tremendously generous and patient.

      The true power balances in the world are being revealed, and the alt-right’s fever dreams are evaporating.

      • jim says:

        Possibly. We shall very shortly know.

        Brinkmanship may take them over the brink today. If not, they will do it again until it does.

        The Global American Empire is taking a huge risk, as it took when it started terrorizing Russians in the Ukraine and bombarding Donbass for eight years. Sooner or later, such brinkmanship will take you over the brink. Possibly this time, certainly next time, or the time after that.

        What I expect to happen is the Global American Empire will back down at the last minute. The plane will likely turn around at the final moment. But I expected them to back down in Ukraine also.

        We don’t know what will happen. But we do know that the Global American Empire has been repeatedly flirting with both civil war and World War III, and is today again flirting with World War III.

        Russia drew a line in the sand, and they crossed it. That did not work out too well. Now China has drawn a line in the sand. Crossing it is stupidly reckless. One war at a time is too many. Whether they succeed or fail this time, it is stupid to risk a war with two great enemies at the same time.

        Possibly it will shortly find itself in two front external war, and an internal civil war. If not, not for lack of trying.

      • Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

        “Trust the plan guys. Everything happening is a rational decision serving the rational interests of the omnipotent masters of the universe, you just need a big enough brain to figure out how flailing about like a gay retard is helping them conquer the world.”

        • Starman says:

          @Pseudo-Chrysostom

          “Trust the plan guys. Everything happening is a rational decision serving the rational interests of the omnipotent masters of the universe, you just need a big enough brain to figure out how flailing about like a gay retard is helping them conquer the world.”

          Exactly.

          People who are in a bubble need to realize that the Global American Empire is fake and gay.

      • Mister Grumpus says:

        I’ll bet anyone a roll of tinfoil that some GAE guys pull a USS Liberty on her plane somehow.

      • jim says:

        Well, now we do know.

        The US has quietly backed down, to the indignation of conquer-the-world faction.

    • Wulfgar Thundercock III says:

      Do it, China! No balls! Now you have to lmao gottem!

    • Mister Grumpus says:

      Please someone explain to me what Nancy Pelosi, or whoever thought this trip up, might be thinking. It just seems to pointless and stupid, but also reckless and dangerous. It’s not like she’s going to save a bunch of orphans from a burning building or something.

      The only thing I can think of is that they’re trying to start a war with China. I can’t imagine any other intent to this.

      And why Nancy Pelosi anyway? Is it the loophole troll factor that she’s not part of the executive branch, so what’s the big deal?

      • jim says:

        There is a faction that wants holy external war to avoid holy internal war. Recall how Putin cured Covid. War with China may well reverse the transformation of school years K9 to K11 into gay sex brothels and Walt Disney Corporation into groomer central.

        But playing the holiness spiral card never works. It is like Republicans playing the “Dems are the real racists” card. You end up getting it coming and going. Worship of the Awesome and Mighty Covid Demon was merely put on temporary hold.

    • Mister Grumpus says:

      So I’m essentially begging and pleading for some new American dictator to take over, and fast, just to prevent World War 3, which also makes me “another Hitler” to these crazy fucks. I just can’t even anymore.

  6. Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

    There’s something indefinably Extra about the tendency in the whig empire to to ban any compound that might coincidentally produce euphoric effects in a subject, besides or in accordance with any other effects it may have. Like there’s something inherently wrong with the inmates having anything to feel good about; only misery and suffering allowed.

    • Alfred says:

      For what it’s worth, if I drink a coffee with cream and sugar relatively quickly I usually get a small but noticeable burst of euphoria. I’ve heard aspirin can have a similar effect and can even treat “depression”.

    • Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

      You can see a similar dynamic with regards to ‘performance enhancing’ compounds too. If something produces a measurable improvement along some axis, then it must be ‘regulated’ and ‘controlled’.

      A body can not help but be left with an appreciation of the implicit logic of Kali Yuga medical praxis in general; that, while an ostensible goal of nominally palliating a given symptom is permissible, that is only as long as any ‘treatments’ involved make the subjects more dysfunctional in general.

      • Cloudswrest says:

        Enclomifene appears to fall under this category. It *endogenously* increases testosterone in men and causes men to loose fat mass.

        From La Wik.

        Enclomifene or Enclomiphene (former tentative brand names Androxal and EnCyzix), was under development for the treatment of male hypogonadism and type 2 diabetes.[2][3][4][1] By December 2016, it was in preregistration and was under review by the Food and Drug Administration in the United States and the European Medicines Agency in the European Union.[4] In January 2018, the Committee for Medicinal Products for Human Use of the European Medicines Agency recommended refusal of marketing authorization for enclomifene for the treatment of secondary hypogonadism.[5] In April 2021, development of enclomifene was discontinued for all indications.[4]

        • Cloudswrest says:

          It’s one of the purified stereoisomers in the racemix drug Clomid.

          • Leon says:

            How easy is it to get a hold of that drug or some other version of Enclomifene?

            • Red says:

              Clomid is easy to get a hold of. Note that clomid harm to the eyes the longer it’s taken due the stabilizing ingredient causing damage to small arteries especially in the eyes. 3 months is the max anyone should take it and less would be better.

              Unfortunately most of what is sold as Enclomiphene is actually relabeled Clomid.

              • Leon says:

                How do you tell the difference between the two?

                • Red says:

                  Chemical testing with a lab.

                  You won’t really know if ended up with clomid until the side effects hit.

          • Cloudswrest says:

            I just experienced a “retconed, altered reality moment”. For perhaps decades I’ve always read that stereoisomer related word as “racemiX”, as in “mixing” both stereoisomers. I now see that the word is “racemiC”, named after racemic acid. Has it always been thus?

        • Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

          Yep. It’s those sorts of decisions that a naive observe will find it hard to rationalize from any perspective except that, the principles want their victims to suffer on purpose.

        • yewotm8 says:

          Was reading into it more since our last discussion on it. Apparently its shorter half life and low clearance time are how it manages to boost testosterone without causing low-estrogen side effects. Estrogen receptors are intensely blocked for about a day, which causes a surge in testosterone production that lasts for a few days. And any potential ocular damage is easily repaired before the next administration (assuming twice per week). Long term saturation of the drug is not desired, which is one of the few instances where that’s the case.

          More and more online steroid sellers are carrying it now as word is getting out about how great it is.

      • Pax Imperialis says:

        Do you want Schwarzenegger gains? Well too bad! Testosterone bad. Oh, but it’s perfectly fine to give little boys hormone blockers and estrogen to turn them into girls.

        BAP talked about the dynamic in one of his podcasts.

        • Cloudswrest says:

          And women can get all the hormone supplementation they want, including Testosterone.

  7. Kunning Druegger says:

    Here’s an additional data point to support my assertion that the holiness spiral could be slowed, or even halted, if enough resistance occurs from different participating elements:

    https://stormer-daily.rw/as-economy-collapses-zuckerberg-decides-that-actually-facebook-is-a-business/

    Short and sour: Meta has lowered its projected hiring by 30% (from 10000 to 7000), and Zucc has stated that he’s “turning up the heat” on existing employees by increasing expectations and goals so under-performers will “self-select” and leave the company.

    I’m not shilling for the jew, but this is a pretty elegant way to shed women, minorities, and gays, if it works. If this becomes a trend, I wonder which companies will take the opportunity to undue some of the damage they did to themselves with DEI practices. Corporate realignment coupled with a “win” by Republicans in 2022 and a backlash in entertainment could be an effective way to temporarily halt the spiral.

    • jim says:

      Not going to work. Human Resources is going to tell him that placing white male expectations on women and browns is racist and sexist, and he is not only going to comply, but believe that he has never thought differently, that no one has ever thought differently.

      The holiness spiral has been running for two centuries, has run into resistance at every step, and has bulldozed over the resistance at every step. Sometimes, the resistance was effective for a little while, whereupon the spiral spontaneously zoomed off in a new direction, and in due course, after zipping off in various directions, eventually came back in the old direction and steamrollered the resistance with newer and more drastic measures.

      With Covid, the plan was the great reset. You will own nothing and be happy. With both the vaccine and the bioengineered killer plague laughably ineffective, ran into difficulties, and that has been partially sidelined for the war in Ukraine. But the war in Ukraine is also running into difficulties, so what happens next is unpredictable. If they knew what they were going to do next, would be doing it now.

      But that businesses should administered by lazy morons and should abandon the pursuit of value and production of value is completely baked in established doctrine, and they are not going to yield on that one.

      • Karl says:

        I do not see how it could work, no matter what Human Resources is going to tell him.

        Those who meet expectations and goals are competent and therefore could find a job elsewhere. Those who do not meet expectations and goals are incompetent and will therefore find it very difficult to find a job anywhere else. The incompetent have to be fired, they do not leave otherwise because they have no pace to go to.

        • jim says:

          Not seeing it.

          Not how business works these days.

          • Karl says:

            Not seeing anyone being fired for incompetence either. My point is that the incompetent do not leave voluntarily, unless they can find a job somewhere else, which is getting mighty hard. So the incompetent stay.

            But if I’m wrong, please do elabaorate how anyone who does not meet expectations and goals can be made to quit.

            • Neurotoxin says:

              Karl, there are two separate questions here:

              One is whether incompetent people can be induced to quit. I don’t know the answer to this one.

              The second question is whether, if they did quit and were mostly women and non-whites, Facebook could get away with it. The answer here is definitely No, if anyone were to notice that pattern and make a stink over it. The reason is a feature of US law and regulation called “disproportionate impact.” You might be lucky enough not to have this in your country. In plain English this says that any rule or law or anything else that has a bigger adverse effect on women and non-whites, than on white men, is ipso facto illegal. Does looking at a loan applicant’s income disproportionately exclude non-white borrowers? BOOM, illegal!

              There are still plenty of unprincipled exceptions to this “principle,” but those exceptions are of course being dismantled over time.

              • Kunning Drueger says:

                Topkek if they (somehow) white balance the ‘impact’ and the legal knifemen are SOL.

        • onyomi says:

          An incompetent white man who, somehow, has a job, should be afraid to leave it, but not members of privileged groups: https://twitter.com/ccmembersonly/status/1552757434221051904

      • Mister Grumpus says:

        There’s a concept Jim presents that Kthulu always swims left, but sometimes has to swim left in a different direction. WW2 exemplifies this, how it had to abruptly switch from class and sex, to “anti-fascism” and “anti-racism”.

      • onyomi says:

        They are trying hard to make “climate change” be “the thing they will do next,” but so far it still isn’t working, at least nothing like rona. Rona was uniquely effective because it made boomers feel personally, physically vulnerable.

        • The Cominator says:

          Rona fooled so many idiots who should have known better… next time they’ll need to unleash a real plague…

      • Starman says:

        @jim

        ”The holiness spiral has been running for two centuries, has run into resistance at every step, and has bulldozed over the resistance at every step. Sometimes, the resistance was effective for a little while, whereupon the spiral spontaneously zoomed off in a new direction, and in due course, after zipping off in various directions, eventually came back in the old direction and steamrollered the resistance with newer and more drastic measures.”

        Wokism is not a living religion anymore, it’s a dying religion… now stuffed with schizo short sighted kikes, solipsistic wine aunts, and faggots who can’t resist their burning desire for little boy anus.

        • jim says:

          They are in power and enjoying it. They have been doubling down for two centuries.

          • Starman says:

            @jim

            “They are in power and enjoying it. They have been doubling down for two centuries.”

            The last Puritan WASP holiness spiral was in the mid Twentieth Century, where one of its holy tenants was to allow the kikes in to all the elite WASP social clubs and colleges (the kikes were previously not allowed to enter USG elite institutions).

            Now the USG is ruled by kikes, wine aunts and pederast faggots. And the USG is now making decisions as if it was run by kikes, wine aunts, and pederast faggots… instead of WASP Puritans.

            – The kikes want their war on Whites (especially Russians) right now, strategic geopolitics and nukes be damned. And they proceed to do so in the most typically cowardly Talmudic way they do so.
            – The wine aunts want their latest karen fetish to be enforced right now (the covid lockdowns were an example), as everyone with a gun hates karens more and more.
            – And the faggots’ volcanic desire to fuck little boy anuses is what’s pushing them to push Drag Queen Story Hour and Mandatory Puberty Blockers (homos can’t just help themselves), atavistic instincts be damned. The homo can’t see more than 15 minutes into the future consequences of their action (see Monkeypozz).

            An actual living holiness spiral from the cunning and long-seeing Puritans would’ve had a USG making decisions quite different from the actual USG’s decisions right now. For one, an actual living Puritan holiness spiral would’ve eliminated Trump in January 2021, or even earlier.

            • Mr.P says:

              Welcome back.

            • Leon says:

              It is weird how the WASPs lost so much power. They became fanatical progressives and threw their own religion away. How many other ruling groups in history can claim that? That they gave up their own damn countries.

              • jim says:

                Holiness spiral. Near enemy was other wasps, alliance with far against near. Classic failure mode of elites.

        • jim says:

          > Wokism is not a living religion anymore, it’s a dying religion…

          It is not that it a dying religion, but rather suffers from the chronic problem of demon worshiping faiths. Evil, broken, damaged people. Past experience is that demon worshipers can only be eradicated with fire and sword. Their faith is not dying, but undead.

          I was reading novayagazeta.eu, which is the website of a bunch of Cathedral entryists recently purged from Russia. Some of them were arts and culture people purged for not disclosing foreign funding. Some of them sound like sincere believers in the Global American Empire who got purged for passionately expressing their sincere belief within a state or quasi state institution, which got them fired. But a whole lot of them sound very much like Hunter Biden, fleeing entirely non political charges of corruption, fraud, and embezzlement.

          One guy was charged with, among many other crimes, selling off the books of the library of which he was in charge, and then, when the absence of books was being investigated, burning the library down to conceal the theft. To which charges he made a non denial denial, as if he took for granted that the people interviewing him were blithely unconcerned about embezzlement, theft, and arson. State property, thus victimless crimes. And it seemed to me that his assessment of his audience was completely accurate.

          It looks as if when Putin’s people started rooting out Global American Empire agents, they found that the agents were too busy stealing anything not nailed down to be very busy promoting the Global American Empire.

          A short while ago, Ukraine rocketed a Donbas people’s Republic prison containing Ukrainian POWs. Seems they wanted to shut their mouths. Knew too much. This is not the first time that Ukraine has applied this approach to internal security, though it is the first time they have done it at range with rockets, rather than close up and personal as individual murders.

        • Contaminated NEET says:

          >Wokism is not a living religion anymore, it’s a dying religion…

          No, it is very much alive. Most people just go along to get along, true, but that’s case in most systems. There’s a sizeable core of true believers, and it’s more than enough to impose the faith on the rest of us. The HR ladies, the professors, the doctors, the fags, the journalists, the schoolteachers, the mid- to high-ranking bureaucrats, the Talented Tenth – they believe with fiery passion. They’re not going through the motions. Globohomo genuinely excites them, and heresy genuinely horrifies and perplexes them. I see them, I talk with them, I work with them (I know, NEETbros, I’m sorry).

          • Neurotoxin says:

            “There’s a sizeable core of true believers, and it’s more than enough to impose the faith on the rest of us…”

            They’re not true believers; they’re (1) beings of pure evil making you call a man a woman because they get off on the power (“How many fingers am I holding up, Winston?”), and (2) people caught up in the holiness spiral.

            “they believe with fiery passion. They’re not going through the motions.”

            Nonsense. No way.

            No one wants demonic transvestite story hour; they support it, or keep silent about it, because they think they have to. That sort of thing survives due to nothing but fear.

            • Red says:

              No one wants demonic transvestite story hour; they support it, or keep silent about it, because they think they have to. That sort of thing survives due to nothing but fear.

              The Demons do:

              https://themostimportantnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/Peter-Strzok-Faces-Of-Evil-Twitter.jpg

              Religions of Human sacrifice work because it creates a bond between people by everyone participating in the most evil and vile acts. Even the people who don’t believe will be forced to sacrifice their loved ones in the service to their Demon gods. Once they’ve commit those acts they cannot be redeemed and they will become the most ardent of supporters of their masters because what other choice do they have?

              Hence why Carthage had to be destroyed and why America will probably be cleansed by nuclear holy fire.

            • Frank Matters says:

              Consider yourself lucky to not encounter one in the wild. They think they’re being cool revolutionaries. They’re on the right side of history!

              Are they true believers in the sense that, they would hold these positions without loudspeaker support? No probably not. They are true believers in the sense that they don’t consciously realize their thoughts and opinions and behaviors are the result of the loudspeaker, they truly believe they are acting out of compunction.

            • jim says:

              > No one wants demonic transvestite story hour; they support it, or keep silent about it, because they think they have to. That sort of thing survives due to nothing but fear.

              Once they have sacrificed to demons, they believe. That is how it works. Compelled sacrifice induce real belief.

              • Adam says:

                Joke about it -> normalize it -> true believer

                • notglowing says:

                  Which is incidentally what they accuse us of doing, calling it brainwashing by many other names.

              • notglowing says:

                If they earnestly believe what they say, why have none of them found their way here?

                There have been plenty of shills and marxists and people of other beliefs arguing in the comments. But I do not remember a single woke person. Yet I see them everywhere in places where they are supported by people similar to themselves and can ruin the lives of anyone who disagrees with them.

                How much of it is a status game and how much is genuine belief?

                • notglowing says:

                  ()

                • alf says:

                  If they earnestly believe what they say, why have none of them found their way here?

                  Honestly, good question. You’d expect at least some good faith leftists to come debate the heretics. But in practice we see them very rarely.

                  I want to say CRIMESTOP prevents them. But I think the best answer is that status game and genuine belief lie very close together, as in, people tend to genuinely believe what brings them most status.

                • jim says:

                  No leftist ever comes here to argue anything earnestly. None of the shills and entryists can commit heresy against women or groomers. None of them overtly push any Cathedral ideology. They seek to converge us, the same way they seek to converge everyone, Muslims, Christians, Republicans, libertarians, anarcho capitalists.

                  I regularly see on Gab them making the argument it is heterosexual male misconduct, rather than female misconduct, that is our problem.

                • Starman says:

                  @jim

                  “I regularly see on Gab them making the argument it is heterosexual male misconduct, rather than female misconduct, that is our problem.”

                  I make a game out of forcing these shills to answer a multiple choice Redpill on Women Question (bless shaman, an OG Jim’s Blog commentator).

                  And most of the time, they refuse to acknowledge that such a question exists.

                  Rarely do they answer, and it is always the wrong answers (jews make women misbehave, men make women misbehave, commerce makes women misbehave…)

                • Globalist Power Terminated II says:

                  Of course. The good old-fashioned, “industrialization obviates the need for children and large families”.

              • Mister Grumpus says:

                > Compelled sacrifice induces real belief.

                That is absolutely chilling.

            • Contaminated NEET says:

              >No one wants demonic transvestite story hour; they support it, or keep silent about it, because they think they have to. That sort of thing survives due to nothing but fear.

              If you haven’t dealt with these people and seen the righteous light in their eyes and heard the moral certainty in their voices, I can only envy you. Their belief that it’s wrong to deliberately “misgender” one of these eunuch abominations is as strong as your belief that it’s wrong to run up to a blind man on the street and kick his cane away.

              • Neurotoxin says:

                I have not in fact encountered anyone who credibly expresses True Belief in that stuff. I do work with a subset of the soi-disant Talented Tenth, BTW.

                I don’t believe that anyone genuinely wants this, because they truly believe that it is good:

                Nope. I don’t believe this person himself actually believes that what he’s doing is good. It’s obvious he is self-aware in his evil. Essentially a Satanist: Evil for evil’s sake.

                • Neurotoxin says:

                  Gah, the link to the image didn’t work. Was trying to link to this:

                  https://gender.news/wp-content/uploads/sites/165/2019/10/demon-transgender-reading-books-children.jpg

                  Click through to see the cutting edge of Wokeness.

                • Contaminated NEET says:

                  The drag queen reading to the kids might take joy in consciously doing evil. The moms who take their kids to these events fervently believe they are doing good.

                • jim says:

                  And so did the moms who burned their children alive to Moloch.

                  They believe because they sacrifice, they do not sacrifice because they believe.

                • A2 says:

                  I prefer to call them drag monsters. Not my coinage but it fits far better than “queen”.

                • Neurotoxin says:

                  “The moms who take their kids to these events fervently believe they are doing good.”

                  No, just cowardly people caught up in the holiness spiral and trying to maintain an impeccably “At least as left as though” position in it.

                  Their thoughts are not, “This will help liberate those poor, oppressed demonic transvestites.” Their thoughts are “Let’s see that bitch Lisa from the PTA meeting last week out-holy this!”

            • Neurotoxin says:

              A whole bunch of people weighed in to say that there exist true believers. I know they exist, but they’re not one tenth of the population. Note that ContaminatedNEET said the “Talented Tenth” believes. No way, off by an order of magnitude.

              • Starman says:

                @Neurotoxin

                “A whole bunch of people weighed in to say that there exist true believers. I know they exist, but they’re not one tenth of the population. Note that ContaminatedNEET said the ‘Talented Tenth’ believes. No way, off by an order of magnitude.”

                Exactly. I easily produced video evidence that the USG elite don’t really fervently believe in the “Covid Demon.” I can easily produce more, ContaminatedNEET.

                • Contaminated NEET says:

                  I’m sure you can find plenty of covid hypocrite evidence, but the real and living faith is not the “Covid Demon,” it is progressivism. Covidianism is a subset of progressivism, lacking faith in it doesn’t mean they lack faith in the greater whole. Some are cynical climbers, but lots of them really think they are doing good.

          • Starman says:

            @Contaminated NEET

            “No, it is very much alive.”

            Bullshit.

            Here’s an example. If the Covid dogma was a living religion, the covid believers wouldn’t be taking their masks off when they think the cameras are off. The karens just like being a karen.

            https://www.bitchute.com/video/n6iyI1TAXeXK/

            • jim says:

              Lot of hypocrites. But I still see some members of the masses wearing their useless masks. Not many, but enough to murder us all in the absence of organized opposition. And not all the elite are going maskless in private.

              The strength of demon worship is that you don’t need that many sincere demon worshipers to terrorize everyone into enough compliance to generate a sufficient supply of demon worshipers to terrorize everyone.

              • Starman says:

                @jim

                “But I still see some members of the masses wearing their useless masks. Not many, but enough to murder us all in the absence of organized opposition.”

                Those are just women (hence my reference to karens). Those cunts just need a black eye and a fat lip.

            • Red says:

              Their superior holy status makes them immune to COVID. Much like the niggers rioting for BLM where exempt from the COVID rules due to superior Holiness. The lower level believers keep their masks on at all times including in their cars.

            • Contaminated NEET says:

              The mask hypocrisy at the highest levels is perfectly consistent with genuine and fervent belief in Progressivism and even Covidianism, just with a little more nuance than you allow them. It’s easier to justify than “Islamic” finance or female pastors:

              Believing in Science!, these “hypocritical” politicians are all up-to-date on their vaccinations and boosters. The circles they move in are “highly educated,” and therefore also vaxxed and unlikely to spread the disease, so as we heard after Pres. Obama’s birthday, it’s fine for them to gather and take off the masks. However, it’s still important for them to set a good example for the ignorant and easily misled masses who still need masks and isolation, hence the noble lie we see in your photo op.

              Or, we can add a touch more hypocrisy without compromising the basic belief. Maybe these politicians believe that Science!, through its wonderful powerful of self-correction, has determined that masks aren’t actually a useful preventative, but admitting this publicly would decrease trust in the health authorities and strengthen the foolish public’s confusion about the extremely safe and effective vaccines. For our own good, they have to lie to us about the masks so we accept the truth about their other policies.

              Or, maybe they have no faith in COVID and think it’s just the flu, bro, but they see it as a useful tool to advance their faith’s other goals: population reduction, the great reset, one world government, or whatever. So COVID is a false faith, but it serves their true and living faith.

              • alf says:

                No one really cares about the science, they care about The Science, and The Science is subjugate to The Faith. Wearing a mask is a ritual and once the ritual is over, the masks come off. It’s the usual show with new rituals — since they did not perform it yesterday, they are likely to perform it with a wink today. Then, newcomers don’t get the joke and holiness spiral into the next level.

                Is covid holiness spiralling into the next level? Seems to me the covidians are running out of steam. The spiral is not outright stopped or halted, it’s just that everyone ignores its regulations. They’re trying to switch to monkeypox, I guess? Not really working. I’d like to see them try a second lockdown. Don’t think it’ll work.

                As for their faith as a whole… Well LGBT and feminism still has support in the usual evil places, though less widespread. Ukraine has some support but most people don’t care that much. Gaia-ism however is quite alive, at least in Europe. Most normies believe in (man-made) global warming.

                • Starman says:

                  @alf

                  “Seems to me the covidians are running out of steam.”

                  I brought out the “Covid Demon” as the most visible example of globohomo’s dying religion.

              • Starman says:

                @Contaminated NEET

                “The mask hypocrisy at the highest levels is perfectly consistent with genuine and fervent belief in Progressivism and even Covidianism, just with a little more nuance than you allow them.” [Muh they meant to act like faggot schizo jews in front of Russia and China. It’s part of a deep transcendant plan, yo]

                Fake and Gay.

  8. Javier says:

    Coof is coming back. Seriously starting to think the government told companies to re calibrate the tests to boost cases.

    • Wulfgar Thundercock III says:

      The government would not need to do that. The vaxxed have been a constant reservoir of the coof because of the way the Vaxx fucked their immune systems. This is just as was predicted. The vaxxed are going to get the coof over and over until their immune system is collapsing, then either the omega variant or some other opportunistic infection is going to kill them. In Canada you have the absurdity of “unknown causes” being the leading cause of death. I wonder what the cause could be, and if there was a spike in unknown cause deaths at any point in the last two years…

    • Neurotoxin says:

      I’ve noticed that for months now, the popular media coverage has been keeping the COVID stuff at a simmer, enough to keep it from vanishing from popular consciousness, but not so much as to create significant pressure from Karens to re-establish lockdowns or whatever.

      My rading of all this: They plan on resurrecting the fucking thing in time to fraud up the mid-terms as they did in 2020. Mail-in ballots, etc.

      • Kunning Druegger says:

        This is my analysis too. Tolkien just can’t leave us be: the Cathedral can’t create anything, they can only twist it into evil shapes. I swear, the Bible, the Silmarilion, the Hobbit, and the Trilogy can derive all analysis and guidance one might need for navigating the Occident.

        Here’s the issue, though (as I see it): They botched the corona operation so badly that it is not as precedential as they think it is. They think, based on citizen conduct in 2020, they can just do the same series style, row hammer attack and achieve the same results: lockdown-unrest-cool off-mail in-false flag-win. But I don’t think many normies will buy the covid lockdown hype the same way. Too much off the 5oclock shadow is coming through the make up for this tranny to be alluring to anyone but the blindest, dumbest, or most loyal.
        But, they don’t have any other option. They have built an apparatus that cannot accept the idea that it can be or was wrong. So they use whatever tool worked last time and expect whatever result they feel they deserve.

        • Neurotoxin says:

          It didn’t occur to me that it might not work a second time. I hope you’re right. Now that you mention it, here’s one possibility: It works fine in blue states, but those states don’t matter because they’d vote blue anyway. Red states and the preponderance of purple states say “No way, not again.”

          • Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

            In certain respects that would be a valuable outcome; if noone anywhere is really going for it, the leashholders will just quietly forget it like every other misstep they’ve memoryholed over the years, and switch to some other method of scalding the frog. Or if enough management class denizens everyone go along with it everywhere like last time, then of course that is just what they want.

            But if some go along with it in some places, while others don’t in other places, then that introduces gravitational tidal forces into the equation, precipitating acceleration of crackups.

            As the old bootcamp saying goes; ‘you all have to be all right, or all wrong’.

            • Neurotoxin says:

              As the old bootcamp saying goes; ‘you all have to be all right, or all wrong’.

              ?

              • Wulfgar Thundercock III says:

                It means that whatever you do, everyone has to do it together. The cohesion of the platoon rests on everyone doing the same thing. Even if you all fuck it up, if you did it together, you did okay. If half the group is on their own fucking program, the platoon collapses. If half the country starts to lock down and half just says, “fuk u lol nope,” then the idea of America as a single nation is shaken.

          • Kunning Drueger says:

            I just don’t think edgy normies and fencesitters will capitulate like they did in 2020, not without bodies in the street, and I mean that in many of the ways it could be construed.

            2020 was already a case of it working in blue states and not in red states. If a single Major media outlet or a selection of the right celebrities, cultural mavens, or minor thought leaders had spoken up in those first two weeks, the outcome would have been dramatically different. But the blue states were quiet, the blue cities were quiet (never forget the 900 member zoom call), and elites in red states stayed quiet until far too late, with all energy diverted to the courts.

            2022 will not be a crazy election in lockdown dazed Trump’s America, it will be a singular election in the midst of a terrible economy, a rising tide of discontent, and unprecedented decay in the social fabric of national identity. Easily half of this country has little to no loyalty in head or heart, only belly and billfold. If the Biden Disaster trend continues, it will be fertile ground for the machinations of bold people with resources and goals.

            Think about the GAE leadership, then look at the list of people mentioned alongside Biden in articles. That’s the team that will be making decisions this November. This will set the tone for 2024, and their game plan*seems to be* some version of 2020, without the race riots admittedly, but I won’t be surprised if we see that soon too. The regime seems to be in a perpetual Kitchen Sink Approach setting. Redefining “recession” is an incredibly blatant Point Deer that was sent out to everyone. Let’s see who buys it.

            • jim says:

              > 2022 will not be a crazy election in lockdown dazed Trump’s America, it will be a singular election in the midst of a terrible economy, a rising tide of discontent, and unprecedented decay in the social fabric of national identity.

              If you were arguing that this makes revolution possible when they steal the election yet again, I might buy it, but you seem to be arguing that this will have an effect on election outcomes.

              Unlikely. I expect an election whose outcome absolutely no one believes, accompanied by a considerable escalation in crushing (non existent) insurrectionists. 2020 with knobs on.

              • Kunning Drueger says:

                I think it could be a ripe opportunity for a vast array of “change agents.” Balkanization will never be tolerated from the right, but segregation from the left might actually happen, especially if the MSM takes up the tune and holds the line. A cordon around “loyal” blue areas would provide the state with new applecart opportunities.

                We have to distinguish between election outcomes (who wins the tally of votes, irrelevant in most if not all situations) and Election Outcomes, as in emergency orders, states of emergency, emergency countermeasures, and temporary emergency authorizations.

                How the Cathedral handles the run up to 2024 will be heavily influenced by what happens this year. Right now, the Voice and Brain are in a state of misalignment. Not completely, but the factional disputes are starting to show. If 2022 is an obvious fake, the pressure will ratchet up farther and faster than the comparative mini shocks of -20 and -21. In some ways, the pot of boiling frogs becomes a significant source of potential energy.

              • Wulfgar Thundercock III says:

                I think that an attempt at reinstituting lock downs will lead to revolt. Whether or not it gains elite backing and goes anywhere is another story. Point deer, make horse worked once. The second time someone tried it, someone else pointed out exactly what was happening. Same for Lockdown 2: Electric Boogaloo.

                • Neurotoxin says:

                  Here’s one bright spot. They have lost, for the foreseeable future, the ability to say

                  “This will just be for two weeks”

                  and have anyone believe it. That’s gone, dead.

        • S.J., Esquire says:

          Great comment this, thanks for that. I don’t claim to see things very clearly, but I see them more clearly than e.g. this time last year, and one thing I see is, they’re trying to do the Great Reset but they’re not very good at it and this explains a lot. I particularly appreciate that last paragraph, that’s what I see too.

          Anyway I really only jumped in to say this: I am not sure that ol JRR hisself would appreciate what I’m about to argue, but I would daresay that one could achieve salvation – defined as a saving relationship with Deity – merely by aborbing and practicing the spiritual content from LotR. That’s what comes of it being divinely-inspired work.

          I listened to an audio book of LotR with my kids last year, its spiritual power got us through the winter when things were bad. I highly recommend this to anyone with kids.

      • Mister Grumpus says:

        From the Delta variant, to the Omicron variant, to the Midterms variant. Guys have been calling this on Twitter for like a year.

  9. notglowing says:

    Jim, you have said capitalism started before the time Marx identifies as the beginning of it. It always existed, and the free market is the default state of things when you have an authority that protects each person’s property.

    I agree, and it’s what I believed before I stumbled on this blog as well. But that is also why I avoided using the word “capitalist” which you on the other hand champion.

    Maybe I am missing something, but I think Marx did create “capitalism”, the word, and the word not only implies that it is an ideology, it also seeks to define it as a *system*, created at some point by society, and equal and opposed to communism, which in Marx’s view will inevitably supplant it. His book is after all called “Das Kapital”.

    If we use the word capitalism, are we implicitly accepting the enemy framing that it is in fact just an 18th century ideology, and a precursor to communism? I do not have a better word for it. Maybe “the free market”. But capitalism feels like a loaded term because of how it was, and is, used by communists.

    • notglowing says:

      When arguing about capitalism, this has in fact had the effect of people derailing the conversation into definitions and other fruitless nonsense. But that’s the kind of problem you tend to get into.

      • jim says:

        OK. Give me an alternate definition of capitalism such that capitalism is not ancient beyond written history, and provide historical evidence that capitalism so defined began around such and such a time.

        It is not like anyone else has a competing definition of capitalism. Marx’s definition, if he has one, is internally incoherent and makes not the slightest effort to make sense, nor refer to actually existent institutions, nor any historical timeline, so Marxists, supposing that they have anything to explain or defend, never attempt to explain it or defend it.

        Marx makes no attempt to explain, define, or describe capitalism, instead engaging in question begging and circular argument, as if he had already defined and described capitalism elsewhere, without actually actually doing so anywhere.

        > But capitalism feels like a loaded term because of how it was, and is, used by communists.

        To be an anticoncept, would have to have anticoncept content. As used by communists, lacked any content, allowing us to supply the content. Ayn Rand stepped into the gap. What she did, worked. The content she supplied has worked in our favor ever since.

        So, before Ayn Rand, loaded term, used by communists to their advantage. After Ayn Rand, booby trap for communists. A good piece of intellectual judo.

        • notglowing says:

          > It is not like anyone else has a competing definition of capitalism. Marx’s definition, if he has one, is internally incoherent

          An incoherent definition allows you to derail an argument, and to make an absurd argument seem coherent. Lacking content in fact lets communists call anything they want capitalism if it fits the aesthetic they project on capitalism.

          Communists like to have a tactical opinion on the USSR and other historical communist countries, where they will either defend them, or argue that they were not communist after all.
          You might have heard the term “state capitalism” which is an oxymoron, but it fits the view of capitalism communists seem to have.

          Since workers did not own the means of production in Soviet Russia or North Korea, these countries cannot be communist. Therefore it is analogous to capitalist exploitation, with the difference being that the state is the capitalist.

          The issue is this does hold a kernel of truth, since the idea of communism, where “workers control the means of production” is both impossible, and impossible to define in practice.

          In practice it means the bureaucracy owns the means of production, which lets the bureaucrats justify total control over everyone else, and it lets other communists say it wasn’t real communism when they have to defend the actions of the former group later.

          I have heard someone call Hitler’s National-Socialist system “totalitarian capitalism”, which is also a very interesting term, and a word that allows them to blame capitalism for the socialist aspects of the regime in particular.
          Which is justified in the communist view in the same way that they justify considering banks the ultimate capitalist institution. Private ownership of the means of production, leading to exploitation of the workers, supported by the government.
          If banks are in reality controlled by the government, it is easy to flip that and say it is the banks owning the government.

          Why is feudalism not capitalist? Because Lords owned most of the means of production (which was mostly the land). I would say the counterargument here is to simply look closer and see that a market economy existed, and that people did in fact have private property, and were able to sell it to others.
          The counterargument to that would be to hold that most of it was owned by various kinds of lords, and not bought and sold most of the time, but rather obtained through conquest.
          Here the question becomes, how capitalist was feudalism? How much of a factor was private capital, when land, which you couldn’t always just buy, was the main form of wealth, and everything else was secondary?

          In history class I remember being taught that money was simply of secondary importance, land was the real measure of wealth. Of course land is also capital, but can it be considered that when it was mainly obtained through violent conquest?

          In a reactionary sense, feudalism is also an example of freehold, where control is delegated to smaller local owners instead of being centralized in one authority. But to be fair that doesn’t make it capitalist; while a capitalist system implies freehold and delegating power to owners of property, I don’t think freehold implies capitalism.

          What is your exact definition of capitalism?

          The wikipedia definition is:
          > Capitalism is an economic system based on the private ownership of the means of production and their operation for profit.

          I would argue that private ownership also implies freedom in buying and selling it, since otherwise ownership is not as meaningful.
          I would also say that the profit part is not necessary.

          • Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

            Property presupposes the power to secure the property.

            Violence is absolutely not a foreign element to the phenomena of capitalism; and it is this that is one of the chief errors of the ‘libertarian’ cul-de-sac.

            • Pax Imperialis says:

              “chief errors of the ‘libertarian’ cul-de-sac.”

              Their never ending obsession with the NAP drives me crazy. Nature rewards those who strike first. NAP results in losing initiative. Communists have no qualms about violence and so libertarians will always lose against Communists.

            • jim says:

              Anarchocapitalism proposes the capitalist production of ethical violence.

              Which requires the capitalist producers of ethical violence to be mostly more or less at peace with each other.

              Which requires a consensus on what violence is ethical, which consensus is a priestly job. Such a priesthood is immediately going to find heresies within and counter priesthoods without, and will need to remove the heads of those people, so is going to wind up looking very much like a state religion without a state – as for example Saga Period Iceland and Judges period Israel.

          • jim says:

            > > It is not like anyone else has a competing definition of capitalism. Marx’s definition, if he has one, is internally incoherent

            > An incoherent definition allows you to derail an argument, and to make an absurd argument seem coherent. Lacking content in fact lets communists call anything they want capitalism if it fits the aesthetic they project on capitalism.

            Only if the Marxist’s interlocutor refuses to use the word capitalism to mean what it means. This, using our word and our meaning, is the original judo trick of Ayn Rand. Works.

            > You might have heard the term “state capitalism” which is an oxymoron, but it fits the view of capitalism communists seem to have.

            You are giving undue Marxists undue credit by projecting onto Marxists the idea that they have a view. They don’t. Or if they do, they will never tell anyone what it is. Huge vulnerability. Hit them on this vulnerability.

            > Why is feudalism not capitalist? Because Lords owned most of the means of production (which was mostly the land).

            The power of the lords was ownership of land, which depended on ownership of war horses and armor. They did not own the means to produce warhorses and armor. Which meant that those who could produce advanced goods, armor being among those advanced goods, tended to wind up owning some substantial amount of land after there had been peace for a while, and nobility flowed from that peacefully acquired land.

            To the extent that lords were able to convert swordpoint ownership of land into money ownership of warhorses and armor, feudalism was capitalist. To the extent that lords were unable to convert swordpoint ownership of land into money ownership of warhorses and armor, not capitalist and not very feudal either, since the life expectancy of lords was apt to be short.

            > Here the question becomes, how capitalist was feudalism? How much of a factor was private capital, when land, which you couldn’t always just buy, was the main form of wealth, and everything else was secondary?

            Warhorses and armor were never secondary

            Land was never the primary means of production, because no one cared all that much about land, but about obtaining warhorses and armor, to which land was only a means, not an end. And they had to acquire warhorses and armor through the capitalist economy.

            Land was the measure of nobility, and land ownership predominantly acquired at swordpoint. We are always ruled by priests or warriors, and usually something of both. Capitalists did not rule then and they do not rule now. Those who owned land ruled, but they had to provide the necessary conditions for capitalism, or die.
            And to the extent that they failed to maintain the necessary conditions for capitalism, they died.

            Land was power. But it was not wealth. And wealth provided the means for power and land.

            Capitalists have never ruled, never will rule, never can rule. Any time capitalists have ruled, they have been warrior capitalists, like the pirates of Hong Kong, or the Venetian Republic, or the bandits of the East India company. Clive of India was an armed and dangerous corporate accountant arranging corporate mergers and takeovers between businesses with armed and dangerous boards and armed and dangerous CEOs. His primary skillset was book keeping and accounting, though another important skill was keeping gunpowder dry.

            If you look at who rules and who fights when discussing capitalism, you are not looking at capitalism. Which is the Marxist sleight of hand when they deny that feudalism was capitalist. They “define” capitalism by telling you “look at this shiny thing over there”. Don’t look at the shiny thing. Look at capitalism.

            > In history class I remember being taught that money was simply of secondary importance, land was the real measure of wealth.

            Your professors lied, lied. Money got you warhorses and armor. Land was not the measure of wealth, but of nobility and authority. But to keep land, nobility, and authority, needed warhorses and armor. So had to obtain money from land. There were a lot of people who were wealthy, but lacked land and nobility, and lot of people with land, nobility, power, and authority, who were mighty hard up for wealth, though mighty good with a sword and a horse. Nobility short of wealth tended to marry wealth, and wealth short of nobility tended to marry nobility.

            Feudalism is a form of warrior rule, the most naked, direct, and simple form of warrior rule. Rule is irrelevant to whether a society is capitalist or not. What matters is security of property rights. Which were not very secure during feudalism, but to the extent that they were insecure it was a problem that the lords had no choice but to attempt to fix. To the extent that property rights were insecure, not only did capitalists not dare become to wealthy, but nobles were short of warhorses and armor, and the sons of nobles were unlikely to inherit land and nobility.

            > What is your exact definition of capitalism?

            The word “capital” is derived from “head” as in head of cattle. It is a generalization of how much cattle you own. Cattle produce milk and calves, and it is a generalization from counting up cattle to counting up assets that you use to produce value, milk and calves among that value.

            So a capitalist is someone who owns a lot of value that he uses competently and effectively to produce more value. Not quite the same meaning as entrepeneur. He might be a speculator or an investor, but an entrepreneur is the archetype.

            Capitalism is what such people do, and to ask whether a society is capitalist is to be distracted by that shiny thing over there. Those people are capitalists, and what they are doing is capitalism.

            Those who rule do not produce wealth and value directly, so in this sense no “society” has ever been or ever will be capitalist, but those who rule have to produce a social order that permits such people, or they will be conquered by rulers who do have an adequate supply of such people and thus have the logistics, provided by capitalists, that enable them fund and equip armies and to to move those armies over distance. As I said, in feudalism, land was nobility, power, and authority, but warhorses and armor were one important form of wealth, and without wealth, one’s land, nobility, power and authority was apt to have short life expectancy. Thus mighty warriors tended to go into business, and businessmen tended to peacefully acquire land from them.

            A society is capitalist to the extent that those who rule attempt to foster capitalists and succeed, but to ask if a society is capitalist is to ask the wrong question. Soviet Russia depended on capitalists as much as every other society. It thus had to tolerate the mafias, and invite in foreign businessmen, so capitalism was illegal, but widely practiced and quietly tolerated. If you want to argue Soviet Russia was capitalist, look at the mafias, international investment, and the private plots. If you want to argue it was socialist, look at laws, enforcement and official documents, but both arguments are irrelevant and unimportant, distracting you with what is irrelevant to capitalism and capitalists. All societies are capitalist, or else they are starving and about to collapse and/or be overrun by foreign enemies. No societies are capitalist, because capitalists never rule, never can rule, never will rule.

            > The wikipedia definition is …

            I did not bother reading it, because, if Wikipedia, a lie that no one takes seriously, least of all those that wrote it. Probably true enough in some sense, but intended for use in a false frame that gives it a false meaning, or rather no meaning at all, intended to distract and confuse.

            • Kunning Druegger says:

              This should be a post, but it should be anonymized and posted somewhere where the less-as-based as we fortunate few can access it and argue with it. It is a fascinating and concise argument, and I wonder if one like it is floating around out there.

              • jim says:

                Thanks for your kind words. I will probably promote it to a post, after some editing.

                As for posting it elsewhere, everything under this blog is under the creative commons license, so everyone is free to repost anywhere they like, or create derivative works and repost anywhere they like.

                So: Go for it.

                • Red says:

                  I’ve always found spreading Jim’s work difficult. Normies shutdown the moment they see a sign of crime thought.

                • jim says:

                  I have not encountered that problem. Could be you are encountering both the crimestop problem and the IQ gap problem.

                  I talk to normies differently, and when I commit thoughtcrimes, it is funny and shocking. I am fairly cautious, don’t want to derail the party with political debate, which bores and irritates normies, but when the moment is ripe, give them the full 180 proof Jimianity, and the full red pill, including shockingly early female sexual misconduct. At the party a couple of days ago, I started preaching straight from the Old Testament, and, in the social context, people found straight Old Testament preaching quite entertaining – presentation being “this is God’s command”, not “see how silly and old fashioned those Old Testament types were.

                  They had been spontaneously edging up on committing thought crimes against gays, and getting sudden backing from divine authority was funny because of a sudden reversal of expectations – they were edging up expecting someone to reprimand them, testing the waters, and suddenly getting the direct opposite was entertaining.

                • alf says:

                  I have encountered that problem, gotten a bit better at it over the years. Less is more. You just blend in normally, and ocassionally, only when the situation arises, which always does, you drop a fun bomb, have a laugh, and return to normal.

                • notglowing says:

                  What someone is receptive to depends on the person and the moment.
                  I try to adapt the angle I take on the circumstances.

                  If you “redpill” people by trying to start a political discussion, it can easily become confrontational, or be perceived as such.

                  Instead, point out things relevant to the conversation. It’s especially effective if you are pointing out something you can both see with your eyes in that moment.

                • notglowing says:

                  It’s surprisingly easier to do so in real life compared to the internet.
                  Online discussions are less spontaneous, your tone is less obvious, and you are rarely talking to just one person and in a particular moment.

                  It’s much easier for an online discussion to be derailed, especially when there is someone present who wants to pin you for thought crime.

                  In general, I have always adapted my language and what I say to the company I find myself with. I don’t lie, but I don’t always say everything that’s on my mind.

            • notglowing says:

              A great explanation, thanks. I saved it in my collection.

            • hey says:

              How much time do you spend typing this crap instead of programming?

            • Anon says:

              Speaking of wikipedia
              they just edited the Recession page definition from
              “two consecutive negative growth rate” to “business cycle contraction” then they locked the page.
              Which par for the course for the cathedral, but it was so in your face which made it hilarious.

    • Kunning Druegger says:

      Don’t have a dog in the fight, but I think it’s important to remember that Memetic Sovereignty means you dictate the definition, not that you originate the term.

      • jim says:

        Since Marxists decline to fight, we get to define “capitalism”.

        Since the woke are laughable, ridiculous, degenerate, and debased, we get to define “based”.

        Because every man wants to know how to deal with women, we get to define “the red pill”.

    • Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

      Freehold, market economy, and capitalism, are terms that have a lot of overlap in domains.

      I use and have used all of them depending on the context personally. If the CCP can define socialism as capitalism, we can define capitalism as perennialism.

    • Pooch says:

      I find accusations of Marxists against the capitalist (they don’t do anything, they don’t contribute, they’re just profiting off the workers, etc) to be not completely invalid in feudal Europe.

      One could argue feudal Europe was in a pre-capitalist state, unlike Rome which very much was capitalist, with capitalism being defined simply as the free flow of wealth ,which did not exist in feudal Europe. Wealth did not flow freely because the main source of wealth was property and property could be bought and sold by law. You weren’t allowed to put an up for sale sign and whoever could come up with the number of gold coins could just purchase it from you. That’s not how property worked.

      Feudalism was not a free market in many ways. It was libertarian in the sense that it was decentralized to each aristocrat who had his own parcel of land. It was sort of live and let live.

      While it was libertarian in a certain sense it was also autocratic in another sense from the perspective of the serf. You work the land and of the crop you produce, you feed yourself, you feed your family, you feed your animals, and the lord by virtue of his birthright owns a portion of your labor. It’s not that he made an investment. It’s not that he bought the land. It’s not that he’s renting it from you.

      The Black Death changed this entirely when it killed off a number of lords and it freed up property to be owned directly by the peasantry, which I think is a necessary precursor to capitalism in a creation of a peasant owner class.

      • Pooch says:

        and property could NOT be bought and sold by law.*

      • Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

        The black death disproportionately affected lower classes though, not aristocrats. To the point that it created such vacuums that the sons and daughters of aristocrats ended up filling the voids of smallholders. These cycles of downwards mobility and their ultimately salutary effects on the destiny of the continent were treated in good detail by Gregory Clark in ‘A Farewell To Alms’.

        It changed the face of Europe. Like literally; the physiognomy of the median subject in each nation before and after became substantially distinct, almost as if you were looking at different species.

      • Wulfgar Thundercock III says:

        Serfs were similar to slaves, in that they were the kind of people who were not going to work on their own to support themselves, so they were assigned a plot of land and were bound to it. Serfs are not analogous to freeholding farmers. I suspect that was the reason behind the year-and-a-day rule. If you were smart and industrious enough to survive for a year on your own labor, you were not a serf at heart and you were better off being put to whatever productive purpose you had found.

      • jim says:

        > I find accusations of Marxists against the capitalist (they don’t do anything, they don’t contribute, they’re just profiting off the workers, etc) to be not completely invalid in feudal Europe.

        In feudal Europe, a sword could get you land, but to keep land you needed a warhorse and armor. And only capitalists could convert land into warhorses and armor. So, capitalists and capitalism important and productive in feudal Europe.

        Kings and lords had to create the necessary conditions for capitalists and capitalism. They frequently failed to do so, but to the extent that they failed to do so, their life expectancy was apt to be short. Feudalism was not capitalist to the extent that it was chaotic and violent. To the extent that it was orderly, with noble sons successfully inheriting from noble fathers, it was capitalist, because those noble lords only had long life expectancy and the ability to ensure their sons inherited, to the extent that they could convert swordpoint property rights in land, into transferrable property rights in what land can produce. Which resulted in mighty fighters turning merchant in their old age, and successful merchants purchasing land rights with nobility attached to those land rights from mighty fighters, and marrying their sons to the daughters of mighty fighters.

  10. Kunning Druegger says:

    https://youtu.be/kWbuPQNj65E

    SCMP reports that the Taliban is starting to put their law enforcement in uniforms. This is an interesting development. I know nothing is quite so dramatic as Talibros cavorting around with abandoned NATO gear, but the GAE is not a one trick pony. While their military arm is faltering, they have many other tentacles. It can be easily argued that their tendency to infiltrate societies and governments via soft power is far more expansive and dangerous than their military might ever was. Now, it must be said and understood: soft power with no hard power foundation is almost meaningless in the short and intermediate terms, and its long term efficacy is predicated on long lasting equilibrium with no threat from competing hard power.

    Keeping this in mind, I’d like to propose a sort of research topic/assignment for the gentlemen here. As you troll the internet in whatever manner GNON guides you, keep an eye out for administrative trivia and bureaucratic events reported on the Talibros. They have a very strong sense of identity and they, unlike every other patriarchal structure extant, retain memetic sovereignty. They do this, I assert, but not participating in the “world at large,” which was easy to do while fighting a guerilla war in the central asian expanse. Now that they are “normalizing” and becoming a formal power (again), we will see the fidelity of their faith and memes. The last time they did this, there was no global internet to speak of. As well, there were many other variables that have significantly changed, or disappeared, or appeared.

    If the Taliban can consolidate and expand, the GAE decline will speed up in inverse proportion (this is my thesis; arguments welcome).

  11. Pax Imperialis says:

    Three part post.

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    My previous post on depression understandably got quite a lot of push back. I know a number of men who are married to women who have a family history of depression (genetic and not fake or environmental). Those men have managed to father many children with those women and due to those women rarely leaving the home and having to my knowledge zero social connections outside the home leads me to believe that the men have not been cucked. Among the children only the girls seem to have inherited the depression which leads me to wonder if depression had evolutionary benefits (for some men). Evolutionary approaches to depression are not new by any means, but I haven’t seen any that has looked at a potential link to the lower libido and behavior of depressed women to potentially uncucked mating.

    Now what I said in the previous post was far more obtuse and obfuscated than what I just wrote, so for that I apologize.

    ____________________________________________________

    Thus hopefully this next part will be worded better. Suicide is a horrible event for families. It’s jarring and traumatic, but I wish to call into question the modern West’s approach to the problem. In the West there is a tradition that suicide is naturally a sin from which a modern idea springs forth that suicide must be prevented in as many cases as possible. The West does that with suicide prevention hotlines, awareness programs, therapy, and powerful medications. However it’s not clear any of that works and the suicide rate has bounced around a fairly tight range of rates for at least the last 40 years. Moreover what we have seen is a dramatic increase in suicide by cop or other violent means that involve others besides the person committing suicide. Most mass shootings are in fact suicides. Many of the most famous mass shooters were suicidal well before the shootings and where prescribed powerful drugs. It seems like suicides of the past were deeply personal affairs resulting in only the death of the suicidal individual whereas many suicides of the present are wrathful lashes out at the world at wide. Perhaps some people are broken beyond repair and all this modern messaging that they can be fixed and de-stigmatizing mental illness only results in giving them hope for the impossible. Perhaps when the treatments fail and their hope is crushed, they view society as having lied to them and so they blame society at large for their continued suffering and thus lash out at everything and everyone.

    Thus I posit a simple idea. The West should stop trying to save people who are so dysfunction that they will remove themselves. This is not advocating that the West should promote suicide, but that the West should allow nature to play out as it will and that the West should stop fucking around with things it doesn’t fully understand like proscribing SSRIs to every single person it can. The East does little to prevent suicide for it is a taboo subject to even acknowledge much like suicide was in American several generations ago. Mass murder events are extremely rare in the East much in the same way mass murder events were extremely rare in the West a few generations ago. Maybe de-stigmatizing mental illness and trying to prevent suicide as in fact made suicides far more lethal for society at large.

    ____________________________________________________

    Lastly, China is a Communist state much in the same way that America is a Communist state. I hope to push back at this insane idea that some in the West (especially the Right) have about China being somehow more based than America in terms of principle. China, in their pursuit of equality, has affirmative action for under performing ethnic minorities much in the same way that America has affirmative action for Blacks. China’s redistribution of wealth from the more productive segments to the the less productive has only served to grow the ethnic minorities from 3% of the population (early 1990s) to nearly 9% today. Disparities in performance have not closed at all much in the same way disparities in performance between White and Black have not closed at all. Much of the apologetic discourse America’s communists have for Black misbehavior is similar to China’s discourse in relation to their minority’s misbehavior. While it’s certainly true that China’s minority problem is far smaller than America’s, it’s merely a question of time before China’s minorities grow in numbers and political influence and start their long march through the public square tearing down monuments and denouncing everyone else. In the same way Japan in arguably 10 years ahead of America economically/demographic aging, America is arguably 20 years ahead of China. Now pragmatically, China’s minorities are far, far better than America’s Blacks and Hispanics as well as another group that shall not be (((named))), but things like this (https://twitter.com/jenniferatntd/status/1287779115949527047?lang=en) makes one wonder just how far behind American China is…

    • alf says:

      No disagreement from me. Modern psychiatry/psychology is a disgrace. Medication is harmful in overwhelming majority of cases. Suicide used to be a rightful taboo.

      Depression is a natural reaction to a downwards adjustment in status. Why is my life shit? Why can’t I sleep? Why am I not enjoying things? The body forces you to deal with the why and make necessary adjustments.

      As for China — I always find it difficult to say definitive statements on a country that is so huge and which I have visited so little. Some random twitter statement does little to sway me either way. Generally I trust Jim’s take — on the one hand, ancient civilisation with plenty of practical know-how, on the other hand, trouble splitting with its communist past. But all they need to do in order to win is f*ck up less than the west, and it is currently rather hard to f*ck up harder than the west.

    • Adam says:

      > The West should stop trying to save people who are so dysfunction that they will remove themselves.

      In clown world it does not seem that dysfunctional to kill yourself. There are still elements of material prosperity around, but most live a spiritual life in sync with the worst dystopian novels.

      Imagine your wife taking off with your kids, destroying your reputation, taking your property and wealth, shacking up with a criminal, all the while your church blames you and supports your whore wife.

      I’m surprised suicide and mass shootings aren’t more common.

      • jim says:

        The command against suicide is useful in the social context of support for the Christian virtues of faith and hope. Without that context, counterproductive.

      • Pax Imperialis says:

        These mass shootings are suicides. What changed in the last 30 years to lead to suicides to change from personal to mass murder suicide?

        Imagine telling a massively disfigured man his entire life that he is just as good as anyone else, that he can enjoy all that life has to offer him just like anyone else, that his disfigurement has absolutely no bearing on his standard of life, that women will love him regardless.

        Now when all these things turn out to be false he is medicated with all sorts of drugs we know little about.

        Thus that man is implicitly told his suffering is not due to something inherent to his existence, therefore it must be the fault of society at large. And in his altered state of mind he lashes out at society at large.

        In the past we openly told these men they had problems which lead them to blame themselves. Their suicides were personal and not involving others. Read up on this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Douglas_Crofut

        Deeply dysfunctional man committed suicide in a way that was considerate of others. He made sure that the iridium-192 was returned safely. That is the typical nature of suicides in the past.

        A modern version would see him blasting radiation all over his neighborhood.

        Telling people that they are special and giving them participation trophies has knockoff effects… it turns functional people dysfunctional and dysfunctional into monsters.

        • Karl says:

          My impression is that the suffering of most people is the fault of society at large and society cannot be cured without bloodshed. Problem is that it is difficult for most people to identify those responsible. That is especially true for those that are suffering.

          That is why some men who are suffering end up simply killing anyone who was somehow complicit in the evil that caused the suffering. Very difficult to avoid being somehow complicit in a society with an evil state religion

    • Kunning Druegger says:

      Synchronicity strikes again. Just thinking the other day how suicide, in the aggregate, may in fact be an imuno-response by the distributed human creature when it collectively senses a cataclysm approaching. Each individual suicide is of course personal and intimate, but the net effect may be in line with a super-entity getting ready to go through something terrible. This may be a feature-not-bug that we developed long ago (of late, I am starting to buy into the Carlson-Hancock Thesis about a pre-historical civilization) for when our little biome became the shooting gallery of the gods. The phenomenon is now due to the Cathedral managing things such that population explodes while truth and beauty are outlawed and evil is given license to roam wild and free. All of this trips the “sixth sense” of society and we start shedding the less than useful.

      This is not a serious thought, as I am ill equipped to be having these thoughts, so if I’ve written something preposterous or incorrect, correct it, don’t attack me. I’m just a kid playing with my dad’s knife collection.

      • Cloudswrest says:

        What your are saying is suicide collectively is apoptosis+autophagy in the ethnic social super-oganism.

        • Kunning Druegger says:

          I had to look up those words, and again, I am playing pin the tail on the concept above my head, but yes, I am starting to believe societies have a sort of meta-state that is early in its evolutionary story and could very easily dead end or be exterminated. But if we, the authors of future potential, program it properly, we could build a homunculus that eventually becomes an “organic” thing, a lifeform of trillions of constituent parts crawling between the molecules that make up the universe.

          …obviously, I have no fucking idea what I am talking about. But it is great fodder for stories.

          • Wulfgar Thundercock III says:

            I have had similar thoughts about certain expressed patterns of behavior. That if you look at the super-organism of humanity as a unit like you would an ant colony, there almost seem to be triggers in place to activate certain responses. As if humanity creates weapons to fight a problem that occurs over a long timescale. It is much like the ancient conception of monsters as a sign that there was an imbalance in the world. The monster was shunned, but it was also a warning that something was wrong.

      • jim says:

        There was a pre-historical civilization of sorts on the coast that existed before the ice dams broke and oceans rose a hundred meters, heavily reliant on fishing and shellfish collection, rather than agriculture, though it might have had grain farming as well in its later days. It was not all that civilized, had pictographs, but probably not a pictographic system capable of recording language. May not have had agriculture. However it had order over a wide area, probably priestly rather than monarchic, and a hierarchical social order in which owners could expect their property rights to be respected in distant places. Its technological level is unknown, though likely it had good boats, good fishing equipment and the means to move substantial cargoes over water.

        We know bronze age Egypt had some technologies that we do not, but they lacked iron, because they lacked furnaces capable of reaching high enough temperatures to process iron into good tools – such as good swords. The pre-historical civilization may have had some interesting technologies also, but without iron or literacy, probably not that interesting. As Egypt had remarkable technology for shaping stone, the prehistorical civilization may well have had remarkable technology for shaping wood.

        But what makes it pre-historical is that its pictographic system did not, as far as anyone knows, rise to the level of language.

        It’s existence is hinted at in the influence it had on early peoples inland, there being no direct evidence for its existence. Maybe we will find something using robot submersibles along the ancient coastline, but with a civilization based on woodworking, there may not be much direct evidence remaining. If the wood became buried in an anoxic environment when the oceans rose, there might be something under the sea floor, but in an oxidative wet environment, wood disappears fast.

    • Mayflower Sperg says:

      Depression is somewhat adaptive in men. When you sense that your social status is low, your body turns down its testosterone production and you slip into a torpor that avoids danger, conserves energy, and slows aging. But where’s the genetic payoff?

      In wild apes, high-T alpha males are constantly getting killed in fights or dying of heart attacks, creating vacancies in the social hierarchy. Human societies have more rigid hierarchies, but there alpha males recognize the value of beta males (what good is a leader without followers?) and give them wives.

      Depression is highly adaptive in women because it makes them less likely to cheat, and men know this. Look at a picture of a sad, lonely girl in a peasant dress sitting on a hay bale, and another of a sharp, confident career woman in a pantsuit with cellphone, briefcase, makeup, professionally done hair, etc. Which do you want to take home and wife up?

      When that sad peasant girl receives a man’s seed, its small dose of testosterone has a huge anti-depressant effect — her face lights up in a joyous afterglow that lasts for hours and firmly bonds her to her husband. Or if she does it with multiple men, turns her into a raging slut.

      • Kunning Druegger says:

        This brings up, tangentially, the concept of Alpha-dom in a way that needs clarification. Is “alpha-ness” on objective or subjective state? The king is alpha (or should be) in context to his cabinet. The minister of war is alpha in context to his generals. The general is alpha in context to his lieutenants. The lieutenant is alpha to his platoon leaders. So it seems obvious that being alpha is subjective. Does this necessarily imply that the cabinet members, or general or lieutenants, are betas? Are they forced to take on a beta-role to facilitate cooperation? How is this managed in the context of organization that cuts across multiple domains without violating the social hierarchy and crippling organizational efforts with repeated alpha contest?

        • Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

          Honor, customs, etiquette.

          Advanced civilizations have highly advanced social superstructures for mediating these relationships in eudaimonic ways – most all of which is torched in present times of course.

        • Mayflower Sperg says:

          Those are questions that every society must find its own answers to, but if those answers do not provide wives to men of all ranks except vagrants, cripples, and imbeciles, that society won’t last long.

          • Jehu says:

            Societies are best off optimizing for the middle 80% of men. The top 10% always do alright and there’s no real percentage in optimizing for the bottom 10%. You have stuff like the gleaning laws in the OT to keep them out of too much mischief. But you need the middle 80% to be able to obtain a virgin wife, property, and a stake in your society. Do that and your demographic problems will largely solve themselves.

  12. Leon says:

    Are there any good IQ tests online?

    • Kunning Druegger says:

      It is my understanding that there’s not due to the nature of an actual IQ test being both an exercise in answering questions and interpreting results (2 sides to one coin) such that the vast majority of online tests are just the “shapes based” section of an IQ test, not the whole test, and not the correct construction or scoring. I could be wrong, and there may be actual IQ tests behind paywalls.

      Has anyone here had an IQ test AND been given access to the results?

      • alf says:

        I once took a WAIS III test. It wasn’t half bad. Interpreting the answers is a big part, yes, so I think you are wholly correct.

        • Kunning Druegger says:

          I’ve been tested a few times, IQ as well as others. One time, I was ejected from the program as soon as my results were returned. I never understood it and it hurt me terribly because I thought I had found my Way. I later found out two things that might have sunk me: one was honesty (HR doesn’t like that, goy) but the other was an overqualification possibility. I shunned the latter because what bitch-ass faggot doesn’t tell everyone he was too good for Them when he gets kicked out, but later I took nearly the same battery and was informed that I nearly maxed out across the board (for the range of applicants, not over all time lol). So i have no clue. Twice, after insulting people to the point of fisticuffs, ive taken one of those online tests to prove a point, and I finish early and score very high. that right there makes them suspect to me. This was years ago and i wonder if they’ve been refined.

      • Pax Imperialis says:

        “Has anyone here had an IQ test AND been given access to the results?”

        Oof, yeah that’s a long dark history… composite score around low 120s (dear god I’m a midwit!)… pretty disappointing for my parents considering my father was 145+ and my mother was also pretty far up there as well.

        The tests I took only measured up to (plus or minus) 3 standard deviations on a bunch of categories. Many of my scores were either +3 or -3. The few that weren’t were either +2 or -2. Therefore it’s possible that I was actually +4 or +5 in a number of categories… but on the flip side it’s possible I was actually -4 and -5 in other categories as well (THE HORROR).

        For example abstract/inductive/etc reasoning was +3, but verbal comprehension/vocabulary was -3. Imagine being able to reason like a genius but communicate like a literal moron… for a number of years I was in both the special ed and advanced placement classes.

        SAT can be a fairly good proxy for IQ and I’m pretty sure nearly everyone knows their score. Sadly I stayed up all night prior to my test playing Age of Empires 2. Parents never completely forgave me.

        I managed to get around 50th percentile on the verbal SAT which is equivalent to dead average IQ. 99th+ percentile on the math SAT which is around 145ish.

        Composite SAT probably puts me around low 130s which goes to disprove those heinous biological determinists because IQ can indeed go up! Ok that was a bit tongue in cheek… IQ is tied to biology which can’t really change much but there is variance depending on how IQ is tested for, which test is utilized, and at what age during development a person is tested.

        Now all this was rather personal to share… and hopefully not potentially doxing. So I understand if folks here are uneasy with sharing, but is there anyone here who also had massive differences between math/spacial and verbal IQ? I would be interested in hearing your thoughts on what it’s like living with that. Would be very interested to hear what it’s like have a high verbal IQ and a low math/spacial IQ.

        • alf says:

          SAT can be a fairly good proxy for IQ and I’m pretty sure nearly everyone knows their score. Sadly I stayed up all night prior to my test playing Age of Empires 2.

          lmao.

          I scored 129 on my IQ test, which I remember because it’s one point from being over 2 SD’s. My performal was higher than verbal, don’t think the difference was massive, just noticeable… Verbally I’m a midwit I guess? Which makes sense to me I’ve never had a silver tongue.

    • Pax Imperialis says:

      No, for two reasons.

      Actual IQ tests are fairly dependent on a test giver’s interpretation of your answer. Psychologists filter the data.

      Actual IQ tests are jealously guarded by the test makers because that’s a niche monopoly they don’t want to lose.

      You’ll find that other psych tests are similar…

      • Globalist Power Terminated II says:

        Actual IQ tests are fairly dependent on a test giver’s interpretation of your answer. Psychologists filter the data.

        I’m not too sure about this. “””Psychologists”””?

        Kind of like how lots of people wrote about crime and the obvious racial connections in the past, but we can’t just take them at their word: crime is a complex, complicated, and multivariate phenomena that every culture understands in its own way — who are we to judge, and what did those old native-raping-racists know about crime anyway.

        • yewotm8 says:

          IQ tests are so politically incorrect by this point that the guy giving the test is probably not too much of a “””psychologist”””.

        • Pax Imperialis says:

          There is good reason to filter. To use a simple example imagine giving a child 100 addition questions and 100 subtraction questions. Most kids will get some of the addition correct and some of the subtraction correct. Thus you can norm the results for multiple children and generate a distribution after which the percentile (i.e. 50th, 70th, 90th, etc) can be calculated for any particular kid.

          Now suppose a kid gets all addition correct and all subtraction incorrect. That is not normal and would give good reason not to use that result to produce a percentile result for the kid. In part because it could indicated something else is going on to distort the results. Kid could be lazy but bright, have a learning disability, etc.

          Now on IQ tests it isn’t as simple as addition or subtraction questions, but similar categories are used to fish out discrepancies which the psychologist then takes a closer look at.

          A working memory test for example might give a kid several short paragraphs to read and ask them to recall what it was about. For example I was given a segment about cars and trucks and nearly recited it back word for word. I was also given a segment about something I forgot about right after reading. I don’t even remember reading it. Now the stupid thing to do would be to average the results and say I had average working memory. Obviously I had great working memory, but only for things that interested me. The psychologist therefore tossed out the fluke. Filtering is obviously better.

          All this said, what I described is what psychologists are suppose to do. My limited experiences tells me that they were doing their job in the 90s, but I have no idea on the state of testing current day (very likely a major decline). I suspect that if you filter for younger psychologists they will be pretty trash, but the older gentlemen I’ve talked with about this subject remain based (although they have been retiring in mass).

          • jim says:

            > Now on IQ tests it isn’t as simple as addition or subtraction questions, but similar categories are used to fish out discrepancies which the psychologist then takes a closer look at.

            I find this very hard to believe. Pretty sure that is not how it is done, not what psychologists are taught to do or expected to do.

            • Pax Imperialis says:

              “not what psychologists are taught to do or expected to do”

              Yes this is likely correct today… but there are several things I feel are relevant.

              In part I grossly oversimplified DD/C and didn’t fully elaborate which is my bad; however, that last part I wrote about “they were doing their job in the 90s” is very relevant. What was being done was more than just IQ testing hence why I talked about filtering.

              Historically (60s-90s), the lion’s share of IQ testing was conducted in the education system K-12 by school psychologists. Testing adults was usually done by psychologists who were using the methods the school psychologists were developing/using to analyze discrepancy. [This is according to several old retired psychologists I talk with, unfortunately I don’t have any “official” sources yet. As with all hearsay it’s potentially very wrong]

              As for how IQ test results were used in the past, this paper* has a good summary:

              ->”to use IQ tests […] to diagnose other forms of psychopathology”
              ->”Such diagnoses were made predicated on the idea that intelligence is best understood as a group of multiple, functionally independent attributes whose development is relatively uniform**.”
              ->”if an some intelligence attributes were less developed than others for a given individual, it was likely due to some “unorganized or disordered personality functioning in the cognitive, affective, and instinctual areas of behavior””
              ->”From the late 1960s through the mid 1990s, a panoply of cognitive profile approaches […] were developed and presented to practitioners as potentially useful for identifying individuals with learning difficulties”

              *The thesis of this paper is highly suspect in my opinion, but it is good enough for a history summary. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6480769/
              **SAT Stats generally agree in relative uniformity between verbal and spatial.

              As you can see from this NPR source (it’s the top google result “IQ testing in schools”), IQ testing in the education system fell out of favor some time ago.
              https://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=213822184

              So what can we say of IQ testing today?
              ->It’s not what one might say “kosher.” NPR does not like it.
              ->Interpreting and analyzing IQ test results is definitely not “kosher.” The paper I linked is just one of many decrying “misuse of IQ”
              ->Hence “not what psychologists are taught to do or expected to do” is really a testament of the times we live in.

  13. Kunning Druegger says:

    Substack Round Up, brought to you by the Midwit Mafia. A lot of these have paywall posts. I lack the shekels for most of it. Not endorsing any of these, or shilling for them, but they all have interesting content from my POV.

    Auron Macintyre is real-timing his book, The Total State
    https://auronmacintyre.substack.com/archive

    Here’s one called Edwin’s Newsletter. Had a good post about Sri Lanka.
    https://edwin797.substack.com/archive

    Contemplations on the Tree of Woe is really good, interesting and concise
    https://treeofwoe.substack.com/archive

    Things Hidden in Complexity is either reading here, or it’s a case of simultaneous emergence, but the dude is on a roll and he does a lot of research heavy lifting so you don’t have to
    https://hiddencomplexity.substack.com/archive

    Enlightened Rationalism is a poster here, have not ingested the catalog, but a cursory review was interesting
    https://erationalist.substack.com/archive

    Fabius Minarchus came out of nowhere as I was doing research on [REDACTED]; seemed milquetoast from the lofty heights of Jimianity, but more and more I am coming to the position that we need to get more promiscuous about soft in-grouping anyone that opens the door to our redpills
    https://rulesforreactionaries.substack.com/archive

    Good ol’ Styx, up to his trix, if his vids don’t do it for ya, try his prose for a fix
    https://tarl.substack.com/archive

    Prudentialist is one of the more palatable of our cousins on the Dissident Right; he’s been grinding for a while and his YT catalog is exceptionally useful for research purposes
    https://theprudentialist.substack.com/archive

    “Mom, can we have Prudentialist?”
    “We have Prudentialist at home”
    Prudentialist at home:
    https://fiddlersgreene.substack.com/archive

    I’m really enjoying the substack ecosystem because it is a superior experience to the vlog trend, IMO. It isn’t perfect, but it is breddy gudd, so enjoy it while it lasts because it will probably be shoah’d sooner rather than later. Again, not shilling en total, just interesting fodder, so apologies if any of these put you off your porridge.

    Non-substack honorable mention: https://palladiummag.com/
    It gets linked here occasionally, not just by me. I’ve been doing a derp dive on their catalog as i chop wood (4 cords in three weeks with an axe, and that’s with a day job, the rest of the farm, kids, and helping neighbors… you may not like it, but this is what peak larp-steader looks like), and it has been awesome. Great topics, good writing, interesting ideas.

    Obviously, I have a serious problem with reading stuff, so please don’t hesitate to link stuff ITT, I’m always looking for more.

    • Neurotoxin says:

      Speaking of substack, Blind Prison of the Mind is good and he explicitly admits to reading this blog.
      https://blindprisonofthemind.substack.com

      He focuses on a mix of reviews of/thoughts about fiction and some political essays.

      • Kunning Druegger says:

        If anyone is looking for high speed, dangerously judicious art/creative critique, this substack is fucking awesome. short, to the point pieces on the core topics. deep insights and profound observations. highly recommend.

    • Red says:

      Thanks for the links KD. A lot of it’s interesting, but LOL at this guy for calling himself a reactionary. He’s a standard LOLbertarian puke going on about he can make leftism policy Y work if we only do X!

      https://rulesforreactionaries.substack.com/archive

      If that’s what’s passing for reactionaries these days, I think we might need a rebranding.

      • Kunning Druegger says:

        Think about it in a slightly different way: he’s trying to stand out from the crowd and be noticed, and the tactic he’s decided is best is aping us.

        His submission to the discourse is derivative, and I pegged him as a fellow midwit, so I stopped reading. But I thought it notable as a data point. Think on this as well: what might we feel about a world wherein the Hitler-stache makes a significant comeback?

        Nigger warning: this is an Atlantic article
        https://archive.ph/SdSDe

        Read it, I dare you. Try not to vomit or induce an atypical seizure from excessive eye rolling.

        This is a tacit admission by the author that our meme has won. “Your meme didn’t win, we stole your meme” is the gist of the screed, and that sounds as preposterous as “we dislike your genetics so much we spread them everywhere.” That article is maybe the biggest whitepill I’ve seen in a long while. Note the boredom in the prose, as if this piece is a drudgery to be gotten through before Chaim can get back to watching his girlfriend’s son on the nannycam and acting like an elementary school teacher*.

        I wrote up a big review of that article for this place, but deleted it because it felt excessive and unworthy. But it never left my mind.

        “Haha we appropriated the Hitler salute and now kids everywhere do it to indicate how high the water will get if we don’t vaccinate the earth from global warming haha.”

        “Haha I straightened my nappy ass brillo shit and died it blonde to show that I think whiteness is ugly haha.”

        “Haha I became a civil rights lawyer and stopped talking like a street-bred retard, married a white chick, put my kids in a religious private school, and pay my taxes so I can defeat White supremacy haha.”

        There are many ways to win. I hope and pray for explicit wins for white folks, for good folks, for honorable and industrious folks. But I’m also trying to be less pessimistic, and looking at the culture war, at a a tactical level in the trenches, and in terms of linguistics and humor, we have some things to be hopeful for. They overplayed their hand after illegally removing Trump and suffering no consequences. Of course, I am not saying at all that we are winning, and any current wins pale in comparison to the devastation coming if there’s an Occidental agricultural collapse. But I’m trying to be less of a buzzkill to myself.

        *I have made an effort to use “Elementary School Teacher” and any derivatives as a replacement term for “fag” or “gay” and it totally works, linguistically.

        • Mr.P says:

          The Atlantic article is one long “ironic” cool-kid/chick ad hominem fail.

        • Neurotoxin says:

          “this piece is a drudgery to be gotten through before Chaim can get back to watching his girlfriend’s son on the nannycam”

          If I’d been drinking anything when I read that, you’d owe me a new keyboard.

        • jim says:

          Too painful to read.

          I have a bigger white pill to the same effect. Our memes are reaching the masses.

          Last night, slightly drunk, I was sitting around a fire with a bunch of normie men, friends of the totally non political man throwing the party. Everyone else at the party was salt of the earth high paid prosperous working class, security guards, workers with apprenticeships or license qualifications that ensure decent pay, accumulated retirement assets, homes, wives, gardens, and children. The man throwing the party served expensive cheese, and made hamburgers with expensive meat.

          And they started talking about some sport stars whom I have never heard of who were in trouble for refusing to celebrate sodomy on the playing field. And then they started talking about gays taking over a nearby swimming hole for gay sex (both of these events were news to me). I recommended the Old Testament solution. Seemed to have general support, and they endorsed an anonymous person at the swimming hole who had made a start on the Old Testament solution.

        • Cataclysm Reawake says:

          The fact is that as the article points out, neither “based” nor “redpilled” have truly reactionary original meanings. We stole them for a very long time, and so there’s no particular reason that the Left can’t initiate a rhetorical offensive in trying to steal them back or at least to neutralize the rightist connotations they have had – which is exactly what I’ve been noticing in recent months. Leftist e-celebs like Kyle Kulinski and Vaush say both those words all the time, to say nothing of their ilk’s minions all over the web. But tellingly, I’m pretty sure I’ve NEVER seen normies use them – only the politically engaged, on both sides. That suggests to me that this isn’t an rightist underground conquest of mainstream culture, but a leftist repurposing of rightist vocabulary to serve leftist ends. Their usage has nothing to do with any interest in restoring coverture and expelling subhumans from the realm – nobody seems at all perturbed when someone with a troon flag avatar uses it.

          The form of our memes is more widespread than ever, but is their content? They produced the fake news meme, but when Trump successfully turned it right back on them, the meme didn’t sully Trump’s rightism, Trump sullied the meme’s leftism.

          We’ve already experienced this problem in the past from boomercons – they’ll say based all day long, but any sympathy to our politics (as one would think that’d imply) has all the depth of a wading pool, all it takes is reminding them of 13/50 and they stiffen up right quick.

          The Left evidently perceive the words as being valuable ideological territory in which to plant their flag – they’re certainly right about that, and I think their attack is having some success. Tbf, maybe I’m just being a blackpiller here. It wouldn’t be the first time lol

          • jim says:

            > The fact is that as the article points out, neither “based” nor “redpilled” have truly reactionary original meanings.

            “based” clearly has original and inherent reactionary meaning. Is not Drag Queen Story Hour, the gay parade, and the US dollar flagrantly debased? Hilariously so.

            “Red pill” in its original meaning means to see the truth rather than the pretty lie. As in the Heartiste slogan “Where the pretty lies perish”.

            The enemy faith is “Point Deer make horse”. 指鹿為馬. The term “red pill” implies a powerful system of illusion – which points directly to our enemies, and cannot credibly be pointed at us – thus it inherently has reactionary meaning. It is a reference to what makes our enemies weak and frail – that they are based on lies that increasingly no one believes. Not us, and these days, not normies any more.

            > But tellingly, I’m pretty sure I’ve NEVER seen normies use them – only the politically engaged, on both sides

            I have never seen normies use them. But what I do see is normies noticing the things that these words stand for.

            At the party last night, bunch of working class normies were saying that gays are debased, even though they lacked to words to say it. Nor did I supply our words. I instead used the words of the Old Testament. Our words are for priestly discussions of theology, not what normies think about, or should think about. I would not use our words talking to normies. They understand well enough, and the bible speaks of what they understand well enough.

            • Cataclysm Reawake says:

              I pray that you are right and I’ll have more opportunities to see the proles make me proud. But your point on definitions is well taken.

            • notglowing says:

              >The enemy faith is “Point Deer make horse”. 指鹿為. The term “red pill” implies a powerful system of illusion – which points directly to our enemies, and cannot credibly be pointed at us – thus it inherently has reactionary meaning. It is a reference to what makes our enemies weak and frail – that they are based on lies that increasingly no one believes. Not us, and these days, not normies any more.

              This is how we understand it and use it, but its origin is clearly Gnostic messaging in a very Gnostic movie, and therefore enemy territory.
              It happens that the same idea applies to the real world – just not in the way Gnostics think it does.
              We don’t believe in escaping the material world through secret knowledge, however we do believe in escaping the illusion leftists created with knowledge that is forbidden.

          • Kunning Druegger says:

            Here’s my issue with your analysis: you make good points, but they are irrelevant to what I am driving at. No, I do not see any mainstream political outlet calling for an end to ladyvoting. But to get to a place where that is even possible, many small changes must occur. Consider the “clownworld” memeplex. When our lil’ buddy honkler first donned the red nose and gave it a squeeze, it was not even a /pol/ meme, it was a /fasci/nationalist/pol/ meme. And many hated it, just as they hated helper, just as they heted Pepe, just as they hated Spurdo, etc. But it fit. It fit so deliciously well that it made bros laugh. It made them laugh so much they wanted it to make others laugh for different reasons, so they spread it everywhere, trying to get fake internet points, but in actuality ramming tiny little spring loaded spreaders into a miniscule crack. As each one gets pounded in, that crack becomes a gap. It is never going to bring down the mountain, but it lets the water in, and once the water gets into the cracks, collapses are inevitable, the only question is time.

            When the first dandelion put out its first little puffball, it just wanted daughter-plants. The shape was a function of gravity and atmosphere and other strange voodoo. It was not in any way planning to become a symbol of summer, of youth, of innocence… every time a kid picks up one of those puffs and spreads dandelion seeds everywhere, the goal is met, and the plant proliferates. Every time my son picks one up, I urge him to have fun, because that weed may some day keep us alive when food is barren. BigLandscaping does all in its power to wipe out the dandelion, but who is going to win, do you think? The army of chemicals and blades and millions of dollars of marketing, or one puffy little boi?

            • The Cominator says:

              You absolutely will not get rid of women voting without abolishing democracy itself completely, politically impossible cannot happen will not happen. It would be the political equivalent of squaring the circle.

              Now the left has mostly made voting fake… but to the extent voting still ever exist women voting will still exist until Democracy is truly dead.

              • Kunning Druegger says:

                I’m inclined to agree with a Cataclysm Exemption.

                Imagine we chug right along toward WW03, with brush conflicts, embargos, and blockades popping up everywhere. The major powers call their banners and the youth flock to the ports for training and embarkation. Then a cluster of asteroids/meteors/space rocks splash down in a scatter plot across the norther hemisphere. No world killers, but a handful of just bad news bears. Global population reduced by 10-20% initially, then the catastrophic weather effects hit, then the global south dies because HIV and cannibalism do not a society make.

                I could see the survivors of such being very cut and dried about necessity and responsibility. This is an extreme and fantastical (i hope lol) picture, but it remains relevant that if there’s a significant catastrophe, “female leadership” lmao xddd will fall on its dyke haircut, pants suit face. It will be like a professional woman’s soccer team being forced to compete against high schoolers for an entire season. It will demonstrate exactly what we here all already know: they just can’t do it.

                That is one potential path towards restricting suffrage. And once that path is taken up, it inevitably ends in monarchy, inshallah.

    • Anonymous Fake says:

      [enemy link deleted]

      Not mentioned enough because we tend to take it for granted, but for newbies must be mentioned.

      • jim says:

        Walt Disney and the Jews” does not tell us how Disney was subverted by Jews, but instead argues that Walt Disney was a faggot.

        Walt Disney was a good man, and the Disney business continued along the right path for quite some time after Walt Disney died. So a report on how Disney came to be groomer central has to be about events that happened after his death. This account is the enemy poisoning the well.

      • Anonymous Fake says:

        !!!!!!!!

        If E Michael Jones of all people is an enemy I think I’ve smelt enough sulfur.

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75ozcLdI8oQ

        Deus Vult mother fucker.

        • jim says:

          You are unresponsive when I fisk you, and unresponsive when I respond your links. This is an attempt to defend the groomer takeover, which it theoretically condemns, but instead of telling us of the crimes of the Disney groomer empire, condemns the capitalist Disney empire for being capitalist, and then proceeds to impute highly improbable sins to Walt Disney and his father.

          • Mike in Boston says:

            argues that Walt Disney was a faggot

            If we are talking about the same article, to be scrupulously fair, although at first it raises the possibility that Walt Disney might have been a faggot:

            Walt seems to have suffered from father deprivation, the main cause of homosexuality…

            it then concludes that he wasn’t:

            The case for Walt’s homosexuality falls apart, however, because Flora Disney was not as intrusive or manipulative as the mothers of most homosexuals […]

            and elsewhere:

            Father deprivation did not lead to homosexuality because Walt’s older brother Roy had willingly taken a paternal role in Walt’s life.

            All I found online was an excerpt, and the writing style was unclear and kind of sloppy, which didn’t motivate me to hunt down the whole thing, nor to pay four bucks for it. So I’m not really sure if this matters.

            • jim says:

              One could see the poison in that he evasively sidled around the fact that Disney is now the groomer empire, while vehemently complaining about the evil capitalist overlords at Disney possessing power that he thinks should belong to the state.

              One can see the poison in the that he is addressing Walt Disney, and ignoring the fact that the rot set in a considerable time after Walt Disney died – evasively sidling around what went wrong.

              One can see the poison in that he spends so much hot air on addressing the entirely nonexistent issue of Walt Disney’s entirely non existent homosexuality. If Wal was straight, which quite obviously he was, why waste space on this issue?

              The title and the graphic promises the forbidden truth, and then there follow absolutely no forbidden truths.

            • alf says:

              The right course of action regarding gays is that no man is gay, no man would ever want to be gay, and no man can be accused of being gay unless the evidence is thus that it cannot be ignored.

              Since there is no unignorable case of evidence round Walt, there is no case for the accusation. As straight as an arrow.

              Fom everything I know about him he was a good man and a visionary who would no doubt be greatly disappointed to see what had become of his life’s work.

          • Anonymous Fake says:

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2DkiceqmzU

            Disney promoting population control in 1968. The rot had to have set in years earlier for something like this to be produced.

            • jim says:

              Walt Disney died in 1966, two years before the slightest indication of convergence and decay. Why then is your link all about smearing Walt Disney and his family, and contains nothing about the faggots groomers now engaging in faggotry and grooming?

              • Anonymous Fake says:

                [*pay no attention to the fact that Walt’s skin was peeled off his corpse and is is now being worn by groomers who want to sodomize your children. It was the same Walt Disney from the beginning*]

                • jim says:

                  True, the rot at Disney corp goes back a long way. The seeds of groomer central were indeed sprouting in 1968. Two years after Walt Disney’s death. This is the point that your enemy propaganda seeks to disappear.

                  Walt Disney was a good man, and his father a good father.

                  The point and purpose of your propaganda is “pay no attention to demons dressed in skin suits. It is totally normal. Nothing unusual to see here, move along.”

                • Kunning Druegger says:

                  I thought this was obvious, Jim. Anyone who cannot defend themselves (because dead or fictional character) and is held in the common perception to be “antisemitic” is the victim of character assassination by the Cathedral. Razorfist laid it bare in one of his videos that Disney was tarred with the term after he owned some commiefaggot union after a labor dispute. He didn’t kowtow to their wishes, and they turned him into an antisemite.

            • skippy says:

              WD is smeared as a rightist though really he was some kind of own-brand leftist. Either way, not part of the ruling cathedral. From an era when individuals, at least very rich individuals, could exercise more independence than now.

            • alf says:

              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2DkiceqmzU

              Disney promoting population control in 1968. The rot had to have set in years earlier for something like this to be produced.

              Ha you actually post a fun link and a half-decent argument! Fun fun. I laughed at the wife whispering to her husband to speak on her behalf.

        • alf says:

          You’ll be back tomorrow.

    • restitutor_orbis says:

      Great list! I read a bunch of these and will add the others to my menu.

      FWIW, Tree of Woe reads and posts on this blog, too.

  14. JustAnotherGuy says:

    So interesting to me that progs/insane would talk drum out constantly that the climate is not the same as the weather, that all the time I experienced with the weather has no bearing on the climate apocalypse that will happen any second now.

    Suddenly, the weather is a bit too hot, and this is the clearest indication that climate change is going to kill us all, and that we must drastic action such as reducing the world population to a hundred million or wrecking farmers in order to stop it. No consistency, just making shit up as they go.

    • Kunning Druegger says:

      It isn’t hypocrisy, it’s hierarchy

      https://youtu.be/-P2bDgwvv2E

      • Red says:

        I really don’t like this meme. It assumes they have the right to be a superior class. The insult tossed at them for this behavior needs to be sharper.

        • Kunning Druegger says:

          This meme, to me, is a rhetorical structure for evaluating conduct and messaging, not a justification for their behavior. Complaining about hypocrisy from Progressives is a tactic used by mainline conservatism to further entrench the Outer Party as legitimate and necessary.

          Evaluating the situation from an objective position through the lens of Realist, or Power, Politics, they have every right to apply a different set of rules and standards on their allies than their enemies. Internalizing this Right and its credibility logically leads to the conclusion that those in power are the arbiters of allowable conduct and discourse, meaning the Amerikaners and their elite patrons must dispense with placid political debate and efforts and take up the task of seizing power by all effective means so that the Good and Righteous can apply the Schmittian Exception.

          This is obviously not straightforward, nor is it trivial to parse without deeper understanding of political theory and governance dynamics, so in essence, I agree, not the best meme for political warfare purposes. This is actually a substantial issue on our side: a lot of our weapons (rhetorical frameworks) are either challenging to hold and deploy, or completely misused. Macintyre asserts that NRx is an interpretive framework, not an ideological framework, and I agree. But it would appear many in the Dissident Right don’t make this distinction, for many possible reasons.

          So this meme needs to be refined or restricted to realms wherein it is effective and valuable. One realm is in debating with mainline/moderate conservatives, particularly those who insist on trying to “work with” the opposition.

          • Red says:

            >Complaining about hypocrisy from Progressives is a tactic used by mainline conservatism to further entrench the Outer Party as legitimate and necessary.

            Correct and we agree on pretty much everything about it. However, the people repeating the “It isn’t hypocrisy, it’s hierarchy” are mostly controlled opposition types like Ben Shapiro and Cernovich. As is usual for controlled opposition they correctly identified the problem but solution they propose is lame and stupid by intention. This disrupts good men’s ability to resist effectively.

            We on the right like legitimate hierarchy. Describing the left’s system of demonic mind slavery as a hierarchy is a gay perversion of that.

            >This meme, to me, is a rhetorical structure for evaluating conduct and messaging, not a justification for their behavior.

            The proper response to something that’s fucked up is a witty insult and meme that cuts to the heart of the matter not a dry statement of fact. “It isn’t hypocrisy, it’s hierarchy” is kind of the opposite of that.

            KD, you’re a decent writer, why not come up with something that works better?

            Meme production has been poor since 4chan was shilled to death.

    • Red says:

      Taking leftist policies seriously is always a mistake. Their goal is to murder 93.7% of the population of earth. Every propose policy is just baby steps towards eliminating your carbon footprint by eliminating you.

    • A2 says:

      Don’t forget that when there are the usual hard winters, polar vortices or whatnot, there is a dead silence on climate change burning the world to a cinder. I suppose one could say it’s a seasonal topic.

      • notglowing says:

        It seems to me they tend to justify these types of extreme weather with climate change regardless of whether it’s high or low temperature.

    • Travis says:

      It is a well worn pattern.

      In February there will be mass freezing because climate change.

      In August people will spontaneously combust because climate change.

      It even has new scarier red on the weather map.

  15. Yul Bornhold says:

    Looking at the possibility of widespread famine, do we have any ideas how this might play out? Hunger contained to third world while first world feeds itself? First world sending its crops to third world while telling its own citizens that starving themselves is the only moral course of action? Mass importation of foreigners?

    Trying to throw together supplies.

    • skippy says:

      Unpredictable because it will depend on local policies made by bit players.

      Starvation will happen in places that impose price controls and enforce them, mandating food be sold at below the cost of production.

      Otherwise, even very great impositions to make agriculture less efficient won’t stop first worlders feeding themselves, only make food bills very burdensome for people on low incomes.

      • Varna says:

        For now it seems the worst-case scenario for the first world (the economy in vacuum, separate from pharma genocide and techno-feudalist takeovers) is simply late era Soviet shortages of food, products, electricity, water, medications, and similar stuff. All basic necessities are available and there’s no famine or starvation, but life is highly highly uncomfortable, and choices are pretty restricted.

        Since the Great Reset appears to a large extent to be literally a mirror-inversion of the original Perestroika — the globohomo perestroika is into the reverse direction of less freedom, less mobility, less pluralism, less comforts in life, less free speech (glasnost) and so on, this reversed time flow looks set to go from capitalism and bourgeois democracy, through a period of perestroika, and reach a globohomo version of the Soviet 1970s and 1980s. With trannies, anal pride, population replacement, and cyber surveillance. And, like the late USSR, people dropping dead from *bad health* at 50.
        (links how much the USSR sucked)
        https://demchoice.livejournal.com/31990.html
        https://fishki.net/2532845-zhizny-v-nastojawem-sssr-foto-25.html
        (link how great the USSR was)

        That’s concerning the reset and built back better life where people own nothing and are happy.

        For the third world and those in between… If there’s no deliberate golodomor famine policy, they’ll likely also have a grottier version of the absolute minimum needed to function and not die. Maybe even with more basic personal freedoms and capacity for primitive joy. But that’s a big “if”. Seems likely the neo-malthusian sub-sect will try to get them all to also stop breeding and start dying of old age at 40.

    • Kunning Druegger says:

      Bug-in
      If you have something worth defending, you need to build a mental model of what is required for you to leave your land as rarely as possible. The old SAS Survival Guide (no excuses, just buy it) has a nice mental exercise for ordering your priorities: 3 minutes without air, 3 days without water, 3 weeks without food. SAS are pretty fucking baller, so obviously quite extreme, but it gives good benchmarks. Here’s the filter I went with: https://www.sawyer.com/product-categories/water-filtration#0 (2 minis for the adults and a backup).

      I am a shill for body armor, and not at all an elitist, so Level III+ steel or higher is fine by me. GWoTfags will never, ever admit that steel plates with a buildup coat and a trauma pad is good enough, and if you are rich, you can get the better, lighter stuff. I recommend you get 2 types of plate carrier: a low profile one ( https://condoroutdoor.com/products/condor-specter-plate-carrier and there are even cheaper Chinese knockoffs) and a tacticool one ( https://www.ar500armor.com/plate-carriers.html ; these guys do all the things, like all the attachments and gack you need to attach to your PC; they are shunned by GWoTfags, and I could not care less, as they are something like 1/10th the price of Crye Precision). The lowpro one is what you keep in your trunk, the tacticool one is what you keep in your closet. Here’s why you go tacticool: 1) it will mark you as a larperator, which means you’re the butt of jokes now but will be welcomed down the road as an ally or utility by the real operators 2) wear it while you train, just do it, because even if you are in good shape, doing your normal workout with a loaded PC will learn you a thing or three about endurance 3) menacing gear can win a fight before it starts. obviously, if we’re talking about actual gunfights, get low and get home if you are not training regularly. but if you are rolling to the grocery store or whatever and unrest is spreading, you will not appear as an easy target, which should be priority one 4) having good gear on hand can be a store of value. you can trade it to guys or give it to any goons you might hire out as protection. this is obviously dicey for a lot of reasons, but never once were the words uttered “man I wish we had less useful gear available.”

      Funs
      Everyone is a chief major gunnery sergeant in the delta seal rangers on the internet, so there’s always derision for stated opinions or brand/build specificity. as well, if you don’t train and practice, in gear and at speed, you’re just holding the guns for the guy that does. so before you buy any iron, make a plan for practicing with it. this goes beyond range time. buy snapcaps/dummy rounds and dry fire practice in front of a mirror. not only does this make your dick bigger, it helps you understand your profile, why blading is important, where you are sticking out/hanging out, and where you should by positioning your utilities on your PC, belt, and legs. it’s really helpful, and it will get you on the road to muscle memory, which is more likely to save your ass than owning expensive gear. Guns are a tool like any other, so they have use cases, strengths & weaknesses, and quality levels. I recommend you have a pistol, AR, and shotgun, that you buy them in reverse order, and train on them in that reverse order. Pistols are not easy to master, ARs are deceptively challenging to use with gear on under pressure, and shotguns are the easiest and most useful if you’re starting from square 0. Shotguns are about as idiot proof of a weapon as you can get, and you can roll with slugs, buckshot, and birdshot all at once. The newer shotties built on the AR/AK platform are really cool, but a good pump shot gun is, on balance and in my opinion, your best bet as a beginner. This firearm configuration is your anti-personnel loadout, and you typically pick AR + pistol or shotgun + pistol, but it’s really up to you and the training you can ingest. On the other side of guntopia you have your utility weapons: pellet/bb gun, 22LR, shotgun, and bolt action. As cool as you may look fully kitted up, what really pulls pussy is access to animal protein. Bolt action configuration has significantly higher velocity than semi-autos of the same caliber because of some magical gas voodoo shit going on in the chamber. So you can hunt with an AR10 (7.62mm semi-auto in an AR platform), but you can hunt more effectively with a cheap Ruger American (7.62 ((and other calibers)) bolt action). If you have the cash, are patient, and have a clean record, definitely go for a suppressor. The benefits are massive in a lot of categories, and the downsides are, in my opinion, not that substantial. “Silencer” is some made up bullshit just like “assault style gun,” and suppressed firearms are still loud, but way less loud, and on a 22LR it’s downright quiet. This is of great utility for ear health and hiding purposes, as well you spook less game. This is why you want to have a BB/pellet gun; they are quiet and effective on small game. It also gives your son/wife something to hold while you carry the big boomstick. in terms of ammo, I use the metric of 1000 rounds per gun as a reserve, and I buy specifically for range time or training courses. This may sound like a lot, but it’s not. I did a training gig a while back where the company purchased ~50,000 rounds per year as a baseline, and flexed up when needed. This was not typical, but it was insane how quickly we went through stocks. A few guntubers have done videos where they shoot rounds from boxes purchased in the 1970s, so store it well and it will retain its value. Common calibers are the safest bet (.22LR, 9mm, 5.56mm, 7.62mm, 12ga) and usually cheaper, but there are some awesome options out there (10mm, 6.5 creedmore, .300BLK) with a lot of utility. I fyou can take the reloadspill, I’d say do it. I do not, but not for lack of desire. As you move into gun culture, you will find mountains of opinion and advice and cautions. just get the guns and practice, and learn from mistakes and make connections. don’t follow trends and guntube too closely (Paul Harrell, gunJesus, and garandthumb is probably sufficient), because you LGS will have better sources of info and advice. Just my opinion.

      Training is massively important, and not just for tacticool stuff. There are a plethora of free and low cost training course on first aid, survival, woodcraft, and agrarian skills. There are legions of SMEs that love sharing their knowledge and, far more importantly, you will be connecting with master craftsmen as well as other normals and preppers and people feeling the same sense of worry and determination to confront it. Rural counties and exurbs tend to be a goldmine for training opportunities, but be very wary of anyone promising to turn you into a gunfighter or operator. Don’t just take “veteran operated” at face value. It is a tricky issue, but the best metric I have found for finding worthwhile trainers is how busy they are, and the condition of their gear and facilities. If the instructor is some fat ass that can’t go 5 minutes without telling you how badass he is, if the class consists of a bunch of foreigners trying to get security certified, if the classroom is poorly maintained and the gear is trashy and dirty, probably not the best place to go. That being said, there’s wisdom in strange places.

      You should purchase a fully kitted out MFAK (multi first aid kit). AR500 does these, as well as dozens of other companies, but be wary of the tacticool ones, not because they aren’t useful, but because they are constructed primarily for bullet trauma. You’re going to want one that is more holistic in approach, with stuff for booboos and itches and sprains and stuff like that, and couple it with a trauma oriented IFAK (individual first aid kit – https://www.blueforcegear.com/trauma-kits.html) attached to it. You should then supplement it with whatever is unique to you. Never pass up an opportunity to get legally obtained prescription meds. The antibiotic crash is real and inevitable, but I’d rather have a bunch of them on hand. Consider too that a bunch med’d up bugmen will be fiending for adderal, MAOIs, and SSRIs, so there really isn’t a prescription medication that won’t be a store of value. This goes too for over the counter meds, though obviously to a lesser extent. If you can do some first aid/medical training, you can get bally great lists of stuff that medicos find important or essential. Just like with tactitools and gear, having medical supplies you can put in the hands of a specialist may be of great value to you at some unforeseen time, particularly if you have kids or elderly to safeguard.

      Jim spoke of chicken coops and vegetable gardens, and I second the motion, but don’t start buying and building without a plan. Find the homesteader community in your area, go to meetups, and start talking to people. My spread has been massively enhanced at fractional costs just by putting in face time with neighbors, trolling the depths of FB marketplace/craigslist, and helping neighbors with odd jobs. We’ve basically quadrupled our “infrastructure” and accelerated our 3 year plan this way. There is a commensurate downside, as I am way less prepared than I would have been if we stuck with the slow roll, but I prefer to have the stuff on site and built, so I will manage. Jim also used the term “snake proof” and this must be considered in depth, because the world of predators and scavengers is frustratingly huge. In addition to the obvious threats, there is also blight, caterpillars, beetles, asian jumping worms, heavy wind/rain, and weather in general. None of this is intended to discourage, but I have found that wanting, finding, and acquiring is far easier than I expected, and maintaining is impossible to do perfectly. Set your sights where you want, but if you can get to “good enough to get by,” you’re winning.

      Livestock is tricky, particularly if you are not swimming in acreage, so the plan I put together is “microstock:” chickens, ducks, geese, rabbits, guinea pigs, bees, worms (vermiculture) and mushrooms. Obviously, I’d love to have steak, mutton, and goatsmilk, but it’s a lot easier to breed up and maintain herds of guinea pigs and rabbits than it is to do sheep, pigs, and cows. But it’s not easy, and it is an ongoing thing, so my plan might be bullshit. Every other -steader in my circle thinks I am insane with the guinea pigs, but I am sticking with it. i’ll report back when things develop.

      If you’re good with tools and electronics, solar array + battery bank is fucking awesome, and you can do it much cheaper than buying everything in a finished state. As well, you can build a windmill pretty easily, and if you’re smart, you can get dribs and drabs of energy here and there, but again, not simple. i have taken collecting the pieces and mothballing them for later when i find them for cheap, whether they are barter fodder or actual deployed assets. I also buy batteries of various types as often as possible. Just like bullets, I’d rather have and not need than need and not have.

      If you are super liquid and looking to go over the top, check out Armormax. There’s also interesting methods for hardening your residence with very lowpro and relatively cost effective options, but I haven’t gone down this road yet. having a good vehicle is great, but you have to consider both provisioning it and being able to store it safely. i’m not a gearhead, so…

      Rainwater collection is apparently tricky because some locales regulate it or outright ban it, but I don’t really care. Just collecting what’s running off your roof (assuming you’re in an area that isn’t a desert or tundra) will give you a LOT. I am still in the testing phase, and this year has been… intense, but I can easily get thousands of gallons of gray water no sweat. Storing it is the real challenge. My current approach is an elevated 1000 gallon catchment that uses gravity to get it where it needs to go, but the details are devilish. So my fall back is the cistern model, which means the gutters feed to a buried tank that has a spill valve and a handpump. i’ve got well water, so rain collection is a backup. Word of warning: modern wells are very narrow tubes drilled deep into the aquifers, which is super cool, but it means you’re SOL if the power goes out and the siphon stops (there’s artesian wells, but this is outside my capacity at the moment). Older wells, sometimes called bore wells, are less common but give you the option of tossing down a bucket on a rope (if that doesn’t make your back hurt just thinking about it…)

      Which dovetails into the idea of dramatically lowering expectations. You can attempt to prep for “maintain my lifestyle in spite of the situation facing me” but it’s going to be challenging, expensive, and risky. Without a family army, or army of families, having a bunch of valuable shit on your spread is useless if you cant defend and maintain it. so consider what your actual minimums are: what are the bare necessities, what are the kcal minimums, what can be done without any power or machines or complex tools? this obviously sucks, but if we’re looking at moths of troubles followed by years of instability… I just don’t know how to prep for that.

      Bug-out
      Good luck faggot lmao gotem

      J/k, but if you’re urban or suburban and you aren’t setting up to be a BAPian marauder (or join up with the local gang or “federal recovery initiative”), you need to plan on being a refugee. I break this down into 3 categories: the refugee, the IDP, and the migrant.

      The refugee
      You are a man alone. You must flee your immediate surroundings with an urgency that negates any concern for next steps. This is the case for urban dwellers.

      Always wear or have good shoes with you. Always have 3 liters of water. Always have a knife or multitool. always have 6 thousand kCals of food. this is on your person at all times. There’s obviously other stuff you can have (good backpack, good poncho, good hat/headgear, good mask, good sunglasses, good gloves, goof IFAK), but you’re best ticket to survival is to get low and get out. You cannot help anyone, you cannot save anyone, and you need to get to a position where friends and allies better prepared or placed than yourself can get to you. So you need to establish known rally points before hand. You need to communicate your plans to those that can help you. And you need to have and be familiar with the on-foot routes you can use. Obviously, speeding off into the hinterland on a motorcycle is based AF, but how likely is it that even a bike will be able to get through the Holland Tunnel? Bicycles are cool, but they’re better for using as a wheelbarrow/pack mule than as an escape method (just my opinion, and I’m sure others disagree). Get low, get isolated, and get out; everything else is irrelevant.

      IDP
      This is what happens when you get an inkling that something is coming a few hours, days, or weeks in advance. You need to have everything from the refugee plan, but you have a miniscule amount of breathing room to plan ahead. This is where having the bicycle may actually be useful. The trick here is to start moving and have a general target of where you’re trying to go. Again, you want to shy away from groups or crowds whenever possible. If you have a good backpack and you find a ultra-petite qt3.14 looking for a savior, maybe carry her along. But I recommend against hoe collection until you’ve exited the kinetic zone. besides, if you move quick enough, you can set up a nice little breeding nest and wait for the refugee swarm and have your pick of the litter. Jokes aside, this will require friends and destinations. There’s no point fleeing catastrophe if you don’t have some promised land to go to. How you go about this is on you, but it does bear consideration. Speed and comfort is the key here; you want to be ahead of the refugee swarm so you can capitalize on whatever good will is extant before the situation degrades into the Hobbesian State. You want to look competent and capable, not desperate and bedraggled. You want to be someone people are happy to help, not someone they feel compelled to mitigate. be polite, don’t argue, don’t threaten, and minimize wheedling and whining. keep your council close, particularly if you’re actual headed somewhere people are ready for what’s coming. No one, not a single fucking person, is going to appreciate that you took their individualized offer of sanctuary and extended it to a bunch of randos. If you show up with a team of capable and provisioned dudes ready to submit, obey, and assist, maybe… but this might have the reverse affect and your would-be benefactors now perceive you as a threat to their survival. You want to be value added, not liability incurred.

      The Migrant
      This is what happens if you have made plans months or years in advance, and are just waiting for the minimum amount of signals or red flags to initiate the Move. Obviously this is tricky, but it is also the absolute best case scenario for you and the people helping you. This means you can send money ahead, help the preppers prep, be an active participant in The Plan, and gain or retain status. You still want your footprint to be small, you don’t want to be a burden, but this way you can manage, more or less, the terms under which you leave your Old Place and make a New Place for yourself. In this situation, you can be an integral part of the Plan, maybe bringing things like food, ammo, supplies, and skills, or even fellow travelers. This is how you form a synthetic tribe.

      Holy shit, this is long. A final note: this is all straight out of my head through the lens of my experience and enhanced by things I’ve read and people I’ve encountered. I am not an expert, and I barely qualify as a specialist, if I qualify at all. I believe there is utility here, but I welcome all refutation, correction, and refinement. Don’t take my word as gospel, just take these things and make them work for you. In a perfect world I would add some coordinates and passphrases here. I in fact do have some plans and standing offers for people I care about that refuse to flee the urban jungle, but it is all predicated on this: I will do what I can, if I can, how I can, when I can, so long as you do a few things, but my priorities are my family, my land, and me, so it is incumbent upon you to position yourself in a way that allows me to help. I am extremely pessimistic about the chances I could do anything at all. Good luck out there guys. GNON is counting on you to take care of yourselves.

  16. Neurotoxin says:

    Checking in on the propaganda: Headlines like

    “LOL, loser Putin’s failed war is failing even harder”

    have vanished. They’ve lately been replaced by headlines like

    “Terrordemon Putin’s military launches strikes at women and children civilians.”

    This suggests the GAE is starting to admit that they can’t salvage the situation.

    • Globalist Power Terminated II says:

      BASEDBASEDBASEDBASEDBASEDBA

    • Super Amazing Man says:

      Some people assume everything is propaganda and read entrails and tea leaves, attempting to divine the will of the gods.

      Other people keep track of trends in NASA FIRMS satellite data, which is publicly accessible.

      Some people insist that claims of decapitation strikes on the UAF General Staff must obviously be correct, because the correct side is the one claiming it.

      Other people watch for sudden and drastic changes in the front lines, or the complete absence of same.

      Some people insist based on anecdotal videos here and there that one side has an obvious UAV superiority.

      Other people note that the opposing side is the one that has rewired its entire artillery effort around integrated and constant drone surveillance, complete with a custom cell phone app, and that the “obviously superior” side is the one with patriotic bloggers complaining they never had any drones in the first place and now they have to buy them from Iran.

      Which has a better grasp of reality?

      ~it is a mystery~

      • jim says:

        You are relying on evidence filtered through the globhomo news media.

        Well, Russian media is not necessarily reliable either, so how can one tell what is actually going on?

        Answer, look at battlefield videos. And what the battle field videos show is that every Russian shell landed on its target, while the damage from Ukrainian shelling looks rather random. Who then has the superior done technology and superior integration of drones with artillery?

        You see Uke military vehicles blown up with lots of distance between them, and no shell craters between them.

        Another indicator is social media posts from troops. The Ukrainian war of attrition tactic is resulting in extensive troop mutinies. The collapse of the defense of Severodonetsk and the collapse of Ukraine’s Kherson offensive appear to be the result of widespread mutinies. Not seeing any mutinies amongst Russian troops. Russia seems to be in the business of battle hardening its troops and creating a large body of men with military experience, Ukraine in the business of getting rid of as many Ukrainian goys as possible as fast as possible. Russia rotates its troops through the front, to learn the art of war, Ukraine sends them on one way trips to the front.

        Social media from Russian troops seems warlike and cheerful. Ukrainian social media – well.

        When Russia interviews its prisoners – well, likely they are saying what their captors want to hear, often obviously so, but when they say they do not want to be part of a prisoner exchange, do not want to be sent back to Ukraine, that looks heartfelt to me. Ukraine is conscripting boys and women. They may have plent of American weapons, but they are running short of men willing to use them.

        • Varna says:

          Turkish CNN said that Erdogan said that Putin said come over here to Russia and build a Baytakar drone factory right now pls.
          https://www.cnnturk.com/video/turkiye/putin-baykarla-beraber-calisalim-diyor

          Combined with the rumors of a Russian deal for Iran’s Shahed drones, looks like some sort of drone scramble in the making.

          • jim says:

            The Russians had to retreat from Seversk due to drone shortage. The hills in that area are full of artillery observers, and they need to find them and kill them. You cannot find them from the ground, and these days manned aircraft over hostile territory have a mighty short life expectancy.

      • Neurotoxin says:

        “Some people assume everything is propaganda…”

        Everything in the leftist media IS propaganda.

        “…and read entrails and tea leaves, attempting to divine the will of the gods.”

        I don’t know what media leftists are, but they sure as shit aren’t gods.

  17. John says:

    I’m reading “The Network State”, has anyone read it?

    https://thenetworkstate.com/
    Written by Balaji Srinivasan, former CTO of Coinbase. I’m picking up a lot of NRx and Jim’s blog memes. The DAO / sovereign corporation concept obviously, but also clear references to (even direct links to) Moldbug, and some ideas that look like they were lifted straight out of this site. For example:

    History is how you debug our broken society. Many billions of dollars are spent on history in the engineering world. We don’t think about it that way, though. We call it doing a post-mortem, looking over the log files, maybe running a so-called time-travel debugger to get a reproducible bug. Once we find it, we might want to execute an undo, do a git revert, restore from backup, or return to a previously known-good configuration.

    Think about what we’re saying: on a micro-scale, knowing the detailed past of the system allows us to figure out what had gone wrong. And being able to partially rewind the past to progress along a different branch (via a git revert) empowers us to fix that wrongness. This doesn’t mean throwing away everything and returning to the caveman era of a blank git repository, as per either the caricatured traditionalist who wants to “turn back the clock” or the anarcho-primitivist who wants to end industrialized civilization. But it does mean rewinding a bit to then move forward along a different path16, because progress has both magnitude and direction. All these concepts apply to debugging situations at larger scale than companies — like societies, or countries.

    • Neurotoxin says:

      A commenter at Eric Raymond’s blog once wrote, in a discussion about politics:

      If I’m a conservative it’s in an engineering sense:
      “If it aint broke, don’t fix it.”
      “Be very sure before you do anything you can’t undo.”
      “Don’t randomly futz with things you don’t fully understand.”
      “Make one change at a time.”
      etc.

      Of course these ideas are common sense, so leftists will have to be removed from the political process before they can be instantiated in reality.

    • Frank Matters says:

      I poasted it before and I’m pretty sure no one decided to look.

      Even better, he full on acknowledges priests and warriors and the need for a faith. Though, the language he uses does not exactly match to how the terms are used here:

      > The point is that in any holy war, the left is the word, and the right is the sword. It’s the priest and the warrior; you need both.

      > The left programs the minds. The priests and journalists, the academia and media, they imbue the warriors with a sense of righteous purpose. They also justify the conflict to the many bystanders, convincing them to either not get involved — or to get involved on the warriors’ side. In this concept of left, the priests transmit a revolutionary zeal that justifies the war against the opposing order, blesses it, consecrates it, says it is necessary and virtuous, motivates the warriors, boosts their morale, and turns them into missionaries that can defeat any mercenary.

      Balaji has been big on pseudonymous economy, woke as religion, soverign cryptoeconomics, etc for a while now. A fellow traveler. I am sure he has a pseudonym he posts true wrongthink under, but not so sure he spends much time here.

      • John says:

        That’s great. I am gladdened and encouraged that the idea of using crypto as a weapon against the demon worshippers has spread this much into the crypto industry mainstream. If you go to the Amazon page for the book, you’ll see that it has been endorsed by Marc Andreessen, Vitalik, and Naval Ravikant, indicating these ideas have surprisingly (at least to me) broad support.

        • Frank Matters says:

          > I am gladdened and encouraged that the idea of using crypto as a weapon against the demon worshippers has spread this much into the crypto industry mainstream

          This sort of rhetoric is not exactly mainstream. Of the bigger names, only Balaji and Andreessen are willing to outright call our enemy a faith and imply if not outright state its evilness. However, crypto people are extremely open minded and capable of adopting wrongthink at large, which is very unique; generally people tend to be open minded in only the direction of the loudest loudspeakers. There is a lot of unclaimed mindspace here willing to be given direction. A lot of smart people dissatisfied with the direction of the world but without any tools to fight it, as the supression of wrongthink has been fairly thorough.

          I propose to jim that he either hurries greatly, as his project has been too unbaked for sharing, according to himself, for years, or he starts writing the same sort of general blueprints with existing blockchain infrastructure in mind. The longer it gets put off the more established other protocols will become, the more mindshare bigger blockchains will suck in, and the more tribal and entrenched people will become about their chosen stack.

          Andreessen is another fellow wrongthinker for sure. Vitalik is spineless and hopeless and basically the definition of a greengrocer. Naval seems to be low verbal IQ, as he uses lots of words to say nothing in particular.

    • Kunning Drueger says:

      I wonder if we’ll get to a point where we should have informal rules about posting/commenting on Jimian Christianity’s memetic spread. I’m not calling for it to be Haram necessarily, but I am questioning whether the thought should be entertained.

      • yewotm8 says:

        What rules would we need? Do you mean that we should avoid clogging the discussion here with them? Or that we should avoid implicating others as wrongthinkers by approving of them here? I don’t see either as a problem, so I’m curious as to what you meant.

        • Kunning Druegger says:

          I actually find the data generated by their discussion utterly delightful, but that is a concern because Yes to your second question. If our memes continue to spread, some fucking degenerate scavenger, or talented analyst, will start hunting for sources. I did a very shallow dive into the chatbot AIs, and it seems to me those things are basically built to hunt speech patterns, which is the equivalent of a nearly infallible digital bloodhound. It is quite possible I am way off base and out of my depth.

          Here’s an unrelated thought: in the past, Jim has deleted single comments and comment chains for multiple reasons, and it has played havoc with the whole comments section. Is there a way to map out a potential self destruct button? Like, a process that would crawl the millions of comments and delete every third one? Would this actually destroy the coherent data structure and break enough links to actually turn the whole thing into an un-sift-able pile of digital rubble? Is there any utility to such a process?

          • The Cominator says:

            Let jim worry about this stuff. Don’t fix what isn’t broken.

          • jim says:

            I don’t want to turn the comments into rubble, though sometimes this is necessary, or happens due to my error, on some threads.

            And almost any ham fisted or careless administrative intervention is apt to turn comments into rubble.

            Speech pattern recognition is less of a threat than you would think. For a large population, needs large samples. Further, speech patterns tend to drift because of social context, and making an id in a large population is unlikely to work against samples taking from different social contexts. People are still arguing about Shakespeare’s plays. The man had many voices.

    • jim says:

      Have not read it. Made a good start on reading it after seeing this link.

      But the software infrastructure of his network state does not exist.

      Working on it.

      Some things cannot be done the way he thinks. Property rights on the network rest on unshared and narrowly shared secrets. He seems to be describing an open entry networked state, which would be overrun by parasites, shills, entryists, and sybil attacks. Have to have a mechanism for including some people and excluding others, and if a networked state in includes a lot of people, that mechanism has to be hierarchical, with, like the Holy Roman Empire, very high levels of subsidiarity.

      By an interesting coincidence, I had been doing a bit of work on this a few hours before you posted this link. My design is based on the Holy Roman Empire, which was also a state that throughout most of its history had no definite geographical borders.

  18. Varna says:

    Discovered another Indian TV news program.
    https://www.youtube.com/hashtag/gravitas
    Delightful to watch almost normal news. They have their bias on topics such as China or Pakistan, but especially on stuff happening in other places, pretty robust and dynamic approach.

  19. The Cominator says:

    https://americanmilitarynews.com/2022/07/biden-admin-says-climate-change-can-force-military-intervention/

    More proof Biden is for whatever reason 100% aligned with the radicals.

    • Mister Grumpus says:

      Nuking Putin and Kentucky for Gaia.

      • The Cominator says:

        They used to say bombing for peace is like fucking for virginity.

        I wonder what they’ll say thermonuclear winter for climate is… sodomy for holiness?

      • Neurotoxin says:

        “We have to detonate lots of nukes… for the environment.”

        • Encelad says:

          You may be sarcastic, but they literally started saying that as soon as conflict in Ukraine broke out

          https://archive.ph/xfiNK

          • Neurotoxin says:

            Of course I was being sarcastic, but my sarcasm was aimed at our enemies, not anyone here.

            The link you provided is awesome. For those who don’t click through, the headline is

            “Nuclear war could reverse global warming, NASA says”

          • Kunning Druegger says:

            Of course it was written by Adam Rosenberg.

          • Mayflower Sperg says:

            Xmas in AD 3000, according to Futurama:

            Fry: This snow is beautiful. I’m glad global warming never happened.

            Leela: Actually it did. But thank God nuclear winter cancelled it out.

  20. Cloudswrest says:

    Vox Day’s rhetoric is offensive. “Europe’s First White Flag”

    Orban/Hungary has been neutral in the Russian/Ukraine conflict since day one. To use a “white flag” metaphor implies they were a belligerent who has now surrendered. It’s insulting to the Hungarians.

    • Varna says:

      I was thinking today that in a sense we could be seeing a “double Roman Empire splitup”.

      In the US, the blue states are potentially the western half, and the red states–Byzantium. In the EU–same.

      Hopefully a *mostly peaceful* semi-divorce, which perhaps shall take place with the mostly peaceful pharma genocide happening in the background. A swanky postmodern version of the black death let’s say.

      A new anti-solar, anti-male, anti-fertility apocalyptic bacchanalic cult taking hold of the western half.

      • Kunning Druegger says:

        That sounds wonderful, but the Intifada Crusade of Swift Social Justice would be launched by the West 5 milliseconds after the divide.

        • Globalist Power Terminated II says:

          Excuse me? Social Justice swine stands no chance against the Glorious Confederation of GNON’s Holy Knights.

          • Kunning Drueger says:

            I don’t fear the reaper, I fear the sheepdog that keeps the flock safe right up until it herds the ewes to the slaughter house.

        • Contaminated NEET says:

          You’re right. They’ll never let us go. They’d sooner nuke the whole continent than allow a racist-fascist-theocracy rule one square inch of it. They hate us like poison.

          • notglowing says:

            They won’t even leave random shitholes on the other side of the planet alone. The idea they would even conceive of such a compromise within the US seems crazy.

            If they got to the point of having to admit such a loss, it would mean they have been mostly defeated.
            On the other hand, I don’t think *we* could allow them to continue existing. It would be too dangerous. Neither side should give up an inch. You know they will not.

            • Aidan says:

              Yes, if they were forced to compromise, weak enough to have their shit pushed in with little effort.

            • Jehu says:

              This is why I disagree with Jim regarding the optimal Russian response to NATO provocation. He believes that one nuke will do the job and force GAE to capitulate. I think you need a full scale decapitation, probably on the order of at least 50 or so nukes, and that’s if you think you can subvert a substantial portion of the secondary strike through Information epoch means.

              The Left knows that if it is defeated, even by Russia, then comes the helicopters. Hit them with one nuke and they’ll escalate. Maybe some factions will balk, but there are enough nuke keyholders to insure that somebody escalates, most of the time. In essence, backing down after seeing one NATO city nuked would sign their death warrants. There’s no ladder to climb down from cloud cuckoo land.

            • Red says:

              >The Left knows that if it is defeated, even by Russia, then comes the helicopters.

              I don’t see any signs that they fear that. Most of what they seem to fear is being outflanked by those more leftwing than them.

          • Mayflower Sperg says:

            They know what will happen if “racists” are allowed to control even a tiny piece of North America — it would be a Norman Rockwell painting come to life (shudder). When the USA breaks up, any jurisdiction that doesn’t shoot niggers on sight will be absolutely inundated with them.

  21. A2 says:

    It’s 2022, bigots.

    … according to a newly unsealed search warrant application obtained by The Daily Beast, which accuses Dr. James Gord, a highly decorated civilian Air Force employee, of installing the 32-year-old sex worker on a highly technical research project even though she did not have a college degree or any expertise in the field.

    The woman “did not fully understand how to use basic word processing…software,” and “struggled to formulate coherent interoffice emails,” the warrant states. In 2019, Gord tapped the woman to co-chair a scientific panel for unsuspecting photonics researchers designing turbine engines, detonation engines, scramjets, and rockets.

    https://archive.ph/rYeJY

    See article for more as well as a picture. I’d like to ask those in the know, does Dr Gord look like a cokehead?

      • Cloudswrest says:

        How come they don’t show any pictures of the tart? I can’t make a fully informed judgement without seeing what the tart looks like!

        • A2 says:

          This particular Eliza Doolittle is a 32-year old prostitute from Cincinnati, but a picture would help. I can see this article as the basis of a comedy hitting many powerful notes (Trading Places, Legally Blonde, perhaps Bringing Down the House).

      • A2 says:

        Lol … uncanny.

    • jim says:

      > In 2017, Gord, whose research the Air Force says “has produced myriad fundamental technology breakthroughs in burst-mode laser measurement systems that enable scientists and engineers to better understand the performance of real-world air breathing and rocket engines, …

      While quite likely her real job was banging him, I suspect that the actual conflict is priests of woke versus tech priests, that he gave one of his girls the job to avoid having hire Shaniqua.

    • Varna says:

      This is a malicious, patriarchic, fascist attack on sex workers. If allowed to stand, these accusations of incompetence might next be applied to women, people of color, and the trans community. The very concept of affirmative action might be challenged by the rising white supremacist radicals.

      We must stand shoulder to shoulder with all prostitutes and escorts who make it into scientific research projects and high government positions, and support them with as many retweets as we can. Having more sex workers in high positions in our institutions should be a source of pride.

      A book for children should be quickly written about little Timmy, who realizes that they are in fact Melinda, and are torn between the glamorous life of a sex worker and their love of science, before realizing that both can and should be combined.

      Institutional quotas for onlyfans workers in every institution is our values. It is who we are. Vibrant rules-based democracy is the future.

  22. Mister Grumpus says:

    Early days of course, but according to Tim Pool the milquetoast rambler, Trump is kicking off his 2024 run with the signature “feature” of his offering being not “Build The Wall” this time, but rather simply “You’re Fired”, going directly to war with the executive branch itself and shitcanning a bunch of people.

    It’s wild framing, I’ll give him that. Let’s see where it goes. Now he’s saying 50,000, but watch him raise that number during the campaign.

    He can’t pull it off without pipe-hitters and helicopters, of course, but that doesn’t even matter. Let those fucks burn down the country because how dare they face unemployment when the voters can’t even afford rent, gas and hot dogs anymore? Show us your entitlement, Swamp. Show us your “fair share”.

    • Pooch says:

      The media is really ramping up the prosecution rhetoric. At this point, I would be surprised if he wasn’t prosecuted.

      • jim says:

        To my astonishment the return-to-normality faction is still in the saddle. I predicted and expected they would be purged pretty quickly. Going after Trump and Musk is the abandon-normality faction, which is increasingly getting their way.

        Betting on my prediction coming true, but with the date extended all the way to end of 2024: Execution or murder of Trump, his children likely to follow if they don’t run. – I was wrong about the speed of events. Let us see if I was right about events. Imprisoned awaiting trial, and then Epsteined, or executed, or like McCaffee, killed while in prison by unknown persons due to the security cameras having a convenient malfunction. (McCaffee penetrated enemy computer networks, and, like Epstein, knew far too much, so if they kill Trump, it is a new escalation, like executing the King of France. As with France, will likely be preceded by Antifa killing large numbers of real and suspected opponents in a disorderly fashion, followed by the Red terror, where the state hunts down ever increasing numbers real and suspected of opponents in an orderly fashion – with the very big difference that our state has much less military capability, and less capability for being orderly. Also, the racial element: An attempt to genocide the Amerikaners, legacy Americans, is certainly possible, though I am not making bets – other than that I have made preparations for that event.

        • The Cominator says:

          The way I see it is the spooks (which include the Justice Department) and the military are the “Normalcy” faction, the state department and unfortunately Biden himself (well rather Ron Klain who controls Biden, Klain being a Jesuit educated fake Jew so take your pick on the source of his radicalism) are completely aligned with the radicals.

          • The Cominator says:

            I should clarify re the spooks Brennan (under Obama) was a hardcore radical (and probably Strzok who looked like he was literally demonically possessed) were radicals.

            • Frank Matters says:

              > Strzok who looked like he was literally demonically possessed

              For those who havent seen it
              https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dh73a5kUcAAhN86?format=jpg&name=medium

              • jim says:

                This may explain the inability of entryist shills against Christianity to give the affirmation. Maybe they are all fbi, rather than Jesuit. We also have a lot of Jewish demon worshipers – not sure whether they are part of the same shilling organization, or Soros.

              • Globalist Power Terminated II says:

                > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXuOUCXweoo
                The fieriest moments from Peter Strzok’s hearing

                The man really does look like some sort of skinsuit/skinchanger. Yikes!

                • The Cominator says:

                  He looks like hes about to spin his head around start vomiting yellow vile and tell you that your mom sucks cock in hell at any moment.

                • Red says:

                  When I saw that originally I said he looked like a Demon. I didn’t take demon worship seriously back then, but I’m seeing that sort of look more and more these days.

                  That’s leads to another question… why the fuck was war hammer 40k so on the ball on a shitload of stuff?

                • Globalist Power Terminated II says:

                  GNON works in mysterious ways.

        • Pooch says:

          Arresting and hastily executing Trump without due process would be the equivalent of the Roman Senate arresting and hastily executing the Catalinian conspirators without due process, a moment that made clear that Republic was no more.

          I don’t think we are there yet, but we will see.

          • Kunning Drueger says:

            Before UKR, I would have said this was unlikely. Now…

            I wonder if the Left will lean into Lone Wolf/Actor plots. Buffalo Shooter was pretty much an obvious “charged particle,” and I wonder if we’ll see more of those.

          • jim says:

            We are clearly not there yet, and it is taking longer to get there than I predicted, but we are on course for that destination.

          • Encelad says:

            In the meantime, one of the prisoners awaiting for trial for 6th January just died of “an apparent suicide”.
            https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2022/jul/23/jan-6-rioter-awaiting-sentence-dies-suicide/

            The article reminds that it is the second one that takes his life. The first one being Matthew Perna in March.

            • Wulfgar Thundercock III says:

              Another reminder that if you become the target of the Cathedral, then you would be wise not to let them take you alive. Might as well go out with some dignity and on your own terms.

              • Red says:

                Yep. Far too many people haven’t figured that out yet.

                They’ll probably kill Bannon too.

    • Albert says:

      Long article at Axios on Trump’s (well, Trump supporters’) plan to purge the deep state: https://www.axios.com/2022/07/22/trump-2025-radical-plan-second-term.

      • Kunning Druegger says:

        I haven’t finished the article yet, but this seems like madness on the part of Team Trump. It’s just giving the permanent bureaucracy all the justification they need to “correct and fortify” again. History tells us that 47% of the voting public will not care one bit when the “ruiner of polite tweeting” is once again stopped from resurrecting Hitler and being racist.

        • Albert says:

          The plans described assume normality.

        • Wulfgar Thundercock III says:

          As if they would ever let him near power again. There is nothing they will not do to stop Orange Hitler. When the Roman Senate failed to stop Caesar by arresting him, they murdered him. What is going to happen in the 2024 election is going to make 2020 seem like a fair and open election. Hopefully it will have the same result on the legitimacy of the American Cathedral as it did for the Roman Senate.

          • Kunning Druegger says:

            This is what doesn’t make sense to me: he knows they stole it, and he knows they fabricated an insurrection to finalize his all-but-actual assassination which was enabled by the neocons in his administration. So, is he willingly walking towards the slaughter because his 4-D chess game is taking his inevitable murder into account (imagine that Caesar knew what had to be done to get Octavian into power… seems like a stretch tbqh fam), or is he so stubbornly committed to an obviously false interpretation that he just can’t fathom that they would do exactly what they’ve already done?

            • Wulfgar Thundercock III says:

              Sanity and normalcy bias in sync. They cannot kill him, and they cannot do too obvious a fake, surely? Maybe he is walking into a trap, knowing it is a trap. The best way to beat an ambush is to walk into it on your terms. I doubt it. I think he thinks that if enough Americans see what is happening they will all stand up and sing the Star Spangled Banner and an eagle will cry and the left will realize what they have done and all will be saved. But fairy tales are lessons about how fairies will do horrible things if you do not follow the will of Gnon.

              • The Cominator says:

                Trump whatever else he is is a boomer…. boomers typically have a level of minimal faith in the system that cannot be entirely destroyed unfortunately.

              • Jehu says:

                Trump is pretty old. He might know he doesn’t have very many years and want to force the hand of the Deep State. More likely he’s got the normalcy bias though. But God can and has used him.

            • Red says:

              This is what doesn’t make sense to me: he knows they stole it, and he knows they fabricated an insurrection to finalize his all-but-actual assassination which was enabled by the neocons in his administration.

              If Trump believed J6 was a setup he would have pardoned the people involved.

              I don’t know what Trump’s game is. The people advising him is the same crew that advised him in the white house into so many disasters. Maybe Trump is starting to become senile and is now playing into the role of controlled opposition via his advisors.

              • Albert says:

                According to the article it is a filtered subset of his first term advisors. The filter is who wants “America first”, who worked to find ways around the obstacles.

                It quotes a member of Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton’s team saying “an abiding belief that we, as a movement, are at war with the forces that want to destroy the American order, root and branch.”

                Still, the question is are those advisors sufficiently radicalized to win.

                • Red says:

                  Win what? The only way to win a rigged election is sending armed men to hold the polling places. I see no sign Trump is engaged in recruiting the sort of men that would be required for that.

                • Kunning Drueger says:

                  First and foremost, I agree with you Red. But for the sake of balance, we must accept that Jim was on Musk time and those of us (meaning me) who were wrong due to a failure of imagination can easily go pendular in perspective and miss the possibility that Other Factors may dig in and slow the spiral.

                  We are in the midst of 3 backlashes right now: Political Backlash, organizational backlash, and cultural backlash. If I could include Institutional Backlash, a slowing, halting, and most likely reversal would be an inevitability. But the Institutions seem safely insulated from reality, at least for the time being. Individually, the extant backlashes are not likely to stop the spiral, but they will slow it or wobble it (a wobbling holiness spiral is when the energy required for a spin is multiplied by distributed upheavals, requiring more energy and organization to repeat previous results), and combined they could actually halt the spin, though I would guess temporarily.

                  Auron MacIntyre did a Livestream with one of the dude’s building Trump’s shadow government. I think you should dig into it. I can’t decide how serious or legit the guy is, but he drops multiple shibboleths. It was compelling enough for me to pull over and jot down names and URLs. It could be for naught even if legitimate.

                  So, who fuck care, right? Trump, with a competent army of ideologues and political operators, could win substantial legitimacy with the right kind of loss. Hard to imagine, but picture a Trump campaign that is an inverse of 2016. Trump actually goes Elder Statesman as a character trait, and ups the use of martial rhetorical structures. The Cathedral just goes all out using the whole panoply of coercion, violence, messaging, and Memes (their unassailable ones, like fag marriage and lady rights), refighting 2016 because they think vanquishing Trump will Harry Potter them back to 2015 levels of cultural legitimacy. Trump somehow rebuilds his National Constituency, that stunning groundswell that was wiped out by Covid, and the left steals. At that point, Schmittian Mechanics come to the fore and Americans stop hearing about cultural factionalization and start doing it. Fool me once (2020), shame on me. Fool me twice (2022 and 2024), I operationalize my friend enemy distinction. If the campaign were structured properly, you could build a realistic range of potential outcomes that land you on top of a hasty coalition of national level actors. If Trump publicly asks what should be done if they steal it again, the array of responses will be… Diverse.

                  If Prince gets formally brought into the Trump Campaign, I would intellectually jump ship and go hard MAGA. There are other names we could list that, if brought in as well, make this a whole lot more believable. But the Octogenarian Masters of the Jewniverse will drop all masks if this happens, and it may become literally illegal to support Trump and attend rallies, with leftist ground game unleashed everywhere. This would be a terrible move by them, but that fits the pattern.

                  If no cataclysm, actual purges, or strings of assassinations occur, 2024 will be a violent election. How could it not, at this point? If it gets crazy enough, someone is going to stumble into the Authoritarian Position just through the process of restoring order.

                • jim says:

                  > Auron MacIntyre did a Livestream with one of the dude’s building Trump’s shadow government.

                  I have read the axios report on the plan, but have not seen any information on it from Trump’s people.

                  Do you have a link to the Auron MacIntyre livestream? It is not obvious on her you tube page.

                • Kunning Druegger says:

                  Interviewee was Andrew Kloster.

                  https://youtu.be/bRsyMQwUJE0

                  Vid is +1 hour

              • Pete says:

                Even if he pardoned the J6 protestors, the regime would not have honored the pardons.

                They would pull out some BS about “A president can’t pardon a crime that he himself suborned,” a couple of Hardvard professors would appear on TV confirming the argument, and that would be that.

                • Karl says:

                  Possibly, perhaps even probably, but a man has a moral obligation to do what he can for his supporters.

                  I think Trump had a duty to do more than he did.

        • Red says:

          I haven’t finished the article yet, but this seems like madness on the part of Team Trump. It’s just giving the permanent bureaucracy all the justification they need to “correct and fortify” again. History tells us that 47% of the voting public will not care one bit when the “ruiner of polite tweeting” is once again stopped from resurrecting Hitler and being racist.

          They’ll kill him this time. It’s a winning political message if voting mattered but it doesn’t.

          • Neurotoxin says:

            “They’ll kill him this time.” Trump is possibly too strung on normalcy bias to realize this. Even after Epstein, he doesn’t seem to get that he’s likely to end up in prison, where he will quickly commit suicide by shooting himself six times in the back of the head.

  23. notglowing says:

    I don’t remember if this has ever been discussed here, but, what are your opinions on toll roads?

    Here, highways are all privately owned toll roads. (Or used to be, the government bought the company that owned most of them last year unfortunately, but the system has not changed from the perspective of anyone using them).

    You get a ticket when entering the highway, you pay at the exit based on your car weight class and the distance travelled. This is a little inconvenient, but keep in mind this is for highways and you’d only use them for long distance travel, there’s many local large roads you can use for medium distance trips, for free and without hassle.

    The practical issues can be entirely eliminated anyways though. There are some more modern highways where the cameras scan your license plate, much like the speed cameras do, and you automatically get a bill much like you’d get a speeding ticket.

    The money goes towards maintaining the infrastructure. It’s only fair that you pay for what you use.

    Sometimes there are more expensive alternative roads to reach the same places, which have much lower traffic, and yes there are ads for roads here.
    Competition is fairly primitive and rare though, alternatives are scarce since there’s only so many highways worth making from A to B, and eminent domain by the government is what ultimately makes big projects possible.
    But highways do work, I just wish they were all automated like the one I described.

    The negative is you end up having to decide whether to pay and use the highway, or take a slower road, and it does make the highway not worthwhile for a daily commute for, say, students, unless the commute is very long.
    Meaning much lower speed limits and less lanes, more curves etc leading to a slower commute. If there were no tolls, everyone would use the highway all the time, which would not be good for traffic on the high way, but might be better for some individual road users.

    I should specify students here do not move to their college city by default. Generally, they keep living with their parents and commute.

    • The Cominator says:

      Unless a private company takes on all costs… gas taxes are already a toll on using the road.

      America probably would need every major road etc to be entirely built by private companies nowadays even if said private companies could get all the land… the government and the contractors of the government are too corrupt to build anything.

      • notglowing says:

        >gas taxes are already a toll on using the road.
        But gas taxes are a less fair toll.
        They are not great either way, but if you lowered them in exchange for part of the infrastructure being paid by whoever uses it more, you’d have a better system.

        Either way, tolls can be charged by private companies paying all road management costs, by the government, or something in between (which is more likely nowadays).

        It would be better if the costs can be entirely removed from the government. Without tolls on any roads you are almost entirely removing even the possibility of private roads, except for situations where government is failing so badly they cannot even maintain basic functionality. If government roads are just good enough, and free, there would hardly be any room for competition.

        • Varna says:

          In modern China roads are riddled with toll-gates, even inside the cities.

          The public transportation however (busses, subways, trains) are subsidized in the sense of the service obviously being way above and beyond what the ticket prices bring in.

          Theory being that without basic physical mobility there’s no social mobility. Youths, students, the unemployed, the handymen, need to be able to get around until they find their niche. If physical travel within a city or between towns is beyond their means they stop being a healthy cell of the social body, and risk becoming either a benign tumor or an actual danger.

          Unlike in the for example England, where public transpiration is budget-breaking unless you’re the offspring of some foreign upper middle class family or the lower branch of the local swamp.

          Maintaining at least the most primitive levels of infrastructure enabling physical movement of citizens and minimal basic healthcare is IMO something the govt absolutely should have an interest in. If the interest of the govt is not, for example, turning the citizens into serfs and degenerates.

          If the social environment is made up of info signals promoting degeneracy then of course affordable basic transportation and healthcare will only be another tool in keeping the citizens on the level of beasts. Or even, hehe, mostly peaceful extermination, *healthcare* being a tool for many things.

          As with most things I tend to share, this is all info from before the great reset kicked in and the new cold war took off for real.

          • The Cominator says:

            Generally agree that in a high trust corruption free society there should be way more high speed passenger trains (and preferably in most cases with a passenger situation more like movies about the orient express and not like megacity subways… people should be able to make friends and contacts on train rides) BUT…

            You need a high trust corruption free society or you need to create a facsimile of it via routine executions for corruption (or even delays and overruns that you can’t prove are due to corruption), almost every last dime of American infrastructure money since around the time of the Big Dig is stolen. And the last real infrastructure built in the US was the 1950s.

            I do not like buses as much… there is just innately something very low class and desperate. Trains done right don’t have to be like that…

            • Varna says:

              >You need a high trust corruption free society or you need to create a facsimile of it via routine executions for corruption

              Some modern Rus neoStalinists call this half-jokingly “non-market motivation for good performance.”

            • Varna says:

              > routine executions for corruption (or even delays and overruns that you can’t prove are due to corruption

              The old stalinist term is “sabotage”.

          • notglowing says:

            A lot of subsidized public infrastructure in China is not worth the cost of implementing it relative to its actual utilization, and it is funded by local government entirely as a kind of unsustainable financial scheme.

            These institutions are in constant competition with other localities to attract businesses and increase the value of their real estate, because the government has a total monopoly on all land, and merely leases it to privates temporarily.
            For a communist country, China has very low taxes in reality. Their taxes on paper are high, but in practice are a much lower % of GDP compared to the US.
            They build excessive infrastructure in the hopes of attracting businesses, in reality mostly attracting speculators to lease land at higher prices and build ghost towns, speculators hoping they will be able to sell the land once the area is actually prosperous.

            Local governments create “private” funds backed by them to issue bonds (because they lack means to raise enough taxes to build what they need to build, and even fund their own operations), these bonds are bought by private speculators because they believe they are implicitly supported by the central government.

            Then infrastructure is built with loans that could never be paid off.

            It’s not a sustainable or an efficient or even a reasonable system. Nor is it exactly taxpayer subsidized, however. Not entirely anyways; as explained the scheme exists as a way to get money because they have no way to raise more tax.

            • Varna says:

              > Then infrastructure is built with loans that could never be paid off.

              Perhaps we are in a world where many players have taken loans which will never be paid off. The question is then what was the money used for. Did fake money transform into real bridges, roads, and houses, or did it it sort of vanish into the thin air from the point of view of 99% of the population.

              Even concerning the neo-rentier class, the question could be similar. Do they gamble and speculate via the producing of tangible goods and infrastructure and hoping for the best, or does the speculation rather take place in the more imaginary realms of digital ones and zeros.

              No matter the outcome for the players themselves, what does the process of risk taking, speculation, and *creative destruction* leave in its wake for society as a whole?

              I personally have little patience for commies, even the new based orthodox racialist commies in Russia and some EE places, because when all is said and done they cling to the belief that nationalization of everything bigger than a mom’n’pop store is what will help Russia survive the current war against it.
              https://kprf.ru/party-live/cknews/209499.html

              (Whereas the weird new party of techno-reaganists that made it into Parliament in the last elections, The New Humans, believe that the current economic war against Russia must be countered by abrupt market deregulation.
              https://newpeople.ru/News/aleksej-nechaev-nash-glavnyj-nacproekt-segodnya)

              And for sure all commies, China’s included, can be full of shit in many areas. Today, however, the world context is such, that there’s no visible counter program one can point to and say “this here is the better alternative”. The better alternatives are in the past, hopefully in the future, but less and less in the present.

              When everyone is full of shit, everyone also deserves credit where credit is due.

              • Kunning Drueger says:

                Sometimes, I dream of One Correction to Level Them All, a sort of Year 0 for capital. The various top 20s would regain their justified 80 within a very short time, and a lot of dead weight, grifters, and rent seekers could be exposed and cleaned out. But this is just leftist fantasy, right? I just don’t understand finances intuitively, so my brain just thinks “turn it off, then on again.”

                • Ghost says:

                  AA doing interview today 11PM EST here:

                  https://cozy.tv/politicallyprovoked

                • Ghost says:

                  Midnight EST

                • Kunning Drueger says:

                  I watched 30 minutes. Kind of funny but groypers are just so fickle to me. Not a single school shooter among them, and I’ve gotten to the point that the only youth I identify with are the ones that murder their littermates. Anglin sounds good, but he sounds sad too. He and I and Com all have the same sickness: isolation. We were never intended to walk alone.

                  Thanks for the link, bro.

            • jim says:

              > They build excessive infrastructure in the hopes of attracting businesses, in reality mostly attracting speculators to lease land at higher prices and build ghost towns, speculators hoping they will be able to sell the land once the area is actually prosperous.

              The speculators are not stupid. Sometimes the speculation fails, hence the ghost cities, but often enough it succeeds. Mostly it succeeds, and the local government, which has a monopoly on land, creams off most of the loot. China has a few ghost cities, but it has a whole lot of brand new very nice cities, with good infrastructure.

              It works. It is massively working, and when people point to a few ghost cities here and there they are cherry picking because they hate the market. Sometimes speculators get it wrong, but compare China building spanking new cities that work well all over the place, with our cities falling apart.

              • notglowing says:

                Some very nice cities with good infrastructure are being built at least, yes. And I am sure China has detractors willing to find any problem and point it out.

                But I doubt this system is sustainable overall.
                There’s a massive real estate bubble in China, with the government trying to limit how many homes someone can own to curb it.
                Average people are buying multiple homes they don’t even live in or rent out entirely in hopes of selling them to someone else down the line. China’s population is not growing. Where will the demand for residential buildings come from?

                It’s not just the ghost towns that bother me, but also the general low quality and consequently ephemeral nature of their construction projects. I have seen plenty of examples of fancy buildings in what should be good areas of important cities completely falling apart just a couple of years after being built, because they are not properly maintained, and because they were not built to proper standards.

                This is probably not the case for the more important government infrastructure projects, but when you are building a house in order to flip it because of the rising price of land, quality is not the most important feature. However, that is a disaster waiting to happen in terms of falling valuations of the property once investors realize it. We know Chinese companies deliver low quality manufacturing whenever they think can get away with it.

                The Chinese real estate market looks like a bubble from all directions. When the average person is speculating and making money hand over fist from it, and these investments are perceived as safe by them, there is something weird going on. Only some speculators are very smart. At least they let Evergrande default, which is good.
                I don’t know *what* is going to happen to China, and if it will blow up, the American market hasn’t yet, but it doesn’t look good to me, the overall picture painted is not a positive one.

                • jim says:

                  > There’s a massive real estate bubble in China, with the government trying to limit how many homes someone can own to curb it

                  You confuse the prevention with the disease.

                  There is no bubble, because the Chinese government is making damned sure there is no bubble.

                  Hard to believe it is a bubble when the government demands forty percent down and lets real estate financial institutions that engage in excessive term transformation go bust. Hard to have a bubble when the Chinese government is taking every opportunity let the air out of it.

                  Real people are really living and working in cities that have built and are building the necessary for people to live and work. No bubble. Forty percent cash down on the barrelhead.

                  Speculators put money down, stuff gets built, people move in and start producing value, speculators get some of the value, local government gets lots of the value. Sometimes, often, speculators get it wrong, hence ghost cities, but for the most part they have been getting it right, and there is absolutely no indication that they have suddenly started to get it massively wrong. Communist ideology tells them to sit hard on the speculators and squeeze them hard, and that is exactly what they have been doing. Under these circumstances, China would probably benefit from a lot more speculation.

                  > The Chinese real estate market looks like a bubble from all directions.

                  It looks like a bubble to people who did not believe that China could rise, and see all evidence that it has risen as some kind of illusion. When cities overflow with people who want to live and work and create value, and are creating value, no bubble.

                  Chinese real estate prices are exhorbitant becauce there are not enough speculators building cities. Needs more speculation and more speculators. Prices are not high because of people holding property in the hope that it will rise. They are high because people want a place to live and work and create value, and cannot find it.

                  It is not a bubble, because people with a job, income, and savings are looking for a place to live, and struggling to find one.

                  China does not have an oversupply of speculators and speculation. It has an undersupply because successful land speculators make the Communist Party nervous.

                • Varna says:

                  About two years ago I think the reds introduced a new taxation scheme where if you own more than one property might as well soap up a rope.

                  One apartment — good citizen. Two apartments — prepare your anus.

                  Big cities introducing laws where if you’re from out of town you have to live there for 3 or 5 years and work during the whole time to get the right to buy property.

                  Similar things for car ownership, especially in the megapolises. Or rather license ownership. Buy a car, knock yourself out, but the license plates are limited and you have to wait until some driver decides to retire and sell his license plate to you.

                  The reds are trying to control and channel growth in a lot of ways on a lot of levels. However, again, this is all from before the great reset started biting so who knows.

                  Could switch to deregulation, could go into firmer state planning, could be the current system is strong enough to not buckle from external pressure.

                  Very interesting times. And if it turns out that their home made trad vax also sterilizes like even just 5-10% hooo boy. They still don’t have vax mandates for the general population, but being east asians 80% went and did it anyway.

                  Plus the rumors that their armed forces are getting their adenoviral equivalent of Sputnik and Astra.

                • jim says:

                  China has the opposite of a real estate bubble. They are artificially suppressing demand, because an inadvertent and unintended effect of their anti speculator measures was to artificially suppress supply – though not nearly as much as supply in the Global American Empire has been suppressed.

      • Gedeon says:

        The cold truth is that all of these infrastructure projects are not capable of self-financing at current costs. The only reason interest rates are low is because of federal deficits sustaining the private economy and the government bureaucracy which lives on it. It is a symbiotic relationship. The ONLY way the system can be restored to some semblance of balance again is by cramming down the losses on the creditors who were the ones who created entities such as Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, Ginny Mae, Sally Mae, FDIC, Federal Reserve Act, TARP, CARES Act, etc.

        There is a symbiotic relationship and both the host and parasite will die because the host is too damn stupid and complex to organize against the parasite which knows the score, the time left, how to set traps to catch actual host community organizers and has means to cause massive casualties if and when the veneer of normalcy is no longer possible, necessary or useful. TGR is a package or paradigm proposed by the parasite class to jump to. They apparently can’t afford the calculated collateral damage of a no veneer effort, so we get to watch the parasites struggle while time runs out and await thunder dome.

        Hyper inflation will win. The math is certain.

        • The Cominator says:

          “Hyper deflation” implies the dollar will get massively more valuable soon… i think not.

          • jim says:

            corrected

          • Frank Matters says:

            It might, briefly. You’re not dealing with smart people reigning over these things. I talk to finance guys, they are detached from reality.

            Look at the recent Euro flippening. What we might get is a brief panic of everyone globally shedding weak horse fiat currencies, the fed bumping up a few basis points in the meantime. This will have a nice dollar bubble moment, where all the incompetent retards in charge of other peoples money decide to stack cash because the holy and omnipotent fed has declared greenbacks valuable. The delusion wont last forever, and the trickle of inflation that leaks through the interest hike that cannot possible be high enough will spook the herd in the opposite direction, triggering the massive revaluation you guys are anticipating.

            I dont really expect the carton of eggs in lieu of rent just yet. That happens when other countries shed their dollar reserves, and we simply have not reached that stage of empire collapse. Soon, and all at once it will happen, but not yet. Destruction of the pacific fleet and or more countries finding themselves trading oil for rubles, a trend ongoing but incomplete, will be the true herald of the hyperinflation. Until then, irrational markets and aggressive stagflation.

            • The Cominator says:

              This dollar rally sort ofalready happened to my astonishment…

              Yeah i think it was a bunch of sheep with other peoples money… short term madness of crowds and all that.

            • notglowing says:

              The dollar rally already happened and it wasn’t that extreme, though other currencies suffered the most.

              The market is already turning to the opinion that the Fed will not keep raising rates indefinitely. We will see how that turns out.

              • jim says:

                The sane option is to keep raising interest rates slowly until they reach the real rate of inflation, which will then diminish. This, however, means that government debt is eventually going to rise to levels that cause people to expect a default. That can is a long way down the road, though not nearly as far down the road as it was.

                I expect them to take the insane option, but hard to predict.

                • The Cominator says:

                  No the collapse of economic life will be total if they try that, the sane option is to monetize the unpayable debt.

                  This also contradicts what you’ve said in the past.

                • jim says:

                  The last time around, Reagan raised interest rates to the real inflation rate, 21%, reducing all taxes, including the seighorage tax, to the Laffer limit.

                  There was much screaming that the collapse of economic life would be total, and numerous headlines, academic analyses, and official announcements that the collapse of economic life was total, but what in fact happened was the Reagah recovery and the Reagan boom.

                • notglowing says:

                  It’s not sane to the Fed. Defaulting, and risking default, would lead to the US government losing an important tool to offload the cost of government programs to creditors all around the world. That’s unacceptable.
                  Hyperinflation means losing the dollar, on the other hand. They are between a rock and a hard place. Powell understands perfectly that “price stability is the bedrock of the economy” – his words.

                  But what they will most likely do, and what they have done before, is pivot before rates become too high and the economy suffers too much. They’ll look at the markets and reverse course when they see that they went a bit too far.

                  It’s a cycle that becomes more extreme every time, and lets them kick the can down the road for much longer than either raising interest rates enough or lowering them too much leading to hyperinflation.

                  I don’t know how much time this buys them, or when the next extreme of low and high interest rates will go, but I would guess the cycles might become faster.

                • jim says:

                  > But what they will most likely do, and what they have done before, is pivot before rates become too high and the economy suffers too much. They’ll look at the markets and reverse course when they see that they went a bit too far.

                  Reagan did not reverse course. He lowered sky high interest rates only when the actual real rate of inflation came down. Worked out well, and nothing less is likely to suffice. Interest rates rose to twenty one percent, and only came down as the fall in inflation permitted.

                  There were no end of headlines that the economy would collapse, followed by no end of analyses proving that the economy had collapsed, but the economy did not collapse. On the contrary, with the boot of the excessive seignorate tax of its neck, there was a massive recovery.

                • alf says:

                  Reagan did that? 21%? What a guy.

                  Intuitively, matching nominal rates with real rates makes sense. In fact, is it not sound policy to always do that?

                • The Cominator says:

                  Total debt wasn’t nearly so high at the time. Reagan cut regulations it was Volcker (a Democrat) raising rates so high.

                  America can’t take it now…

                • The Cominator says:

                  There is no point in trying to stop inflation at current debt levels… you’re only going to increase the amount of unpayable debt in the end…

                  And why have you changed your mind on this?

                • notglowing says:

                  >Reagan did not reverse course
                  I wasn’t talking about Reagan.

                  This is what I mean:

                  https://nitter.net/thhappyhawaiian/status/1546527570748899328

                • The Cominator says:

                  Jim you had previously agreed they cant do this because of government debt and that the debt had to be monetized. Any big raise in interest rates will cause more borrowing which will eventually increase inflation.

                  I would like to know what made you suddenly think they can or should try to save the value of the dollar by monetary means (especially when the stupid sanctions and insane green regulations are creating supply problems) i think trying to do so is insane.

                • jim says:

                  I don’t think they can save the dollar by monetary means, but I think they could postpone doomsday for a while, kick the can a bit further down the road, by monetary means.

                  But I don’t think they have the necessary will to even kick the can down the road.

                • The Cominator says:

                  The sane thing is to monetize it NOW.

                • jim says:

                  America’s wealth is its power to apply the seigniorage tax to the entire American empire. When the bubble bursts, that ends.

                • Neurotoxin says:

                  1) Everyone at the Fed knows what needs to be done: stop printing money.

                  2) But we’re well into the era of the politics mattering as much as the economics. Even back in the late 1970s, the last time the Fed had a significant inflation problem to deal with, the FOMC transcripts show that they worried about the Carter administration’s reaction if they were to get serious about killing the inflation. And the political problem is even worse now, because…

                  3) As Cominator has noted before, the size of the nat’l debt is a lot larger now than late 70s/early 80s.

                  4) Talking about what is sane and insane is becoming decreasingly relevant to this sort of thing. People at the Fed are sane – they’re downright staid – but they are subject to political pressures from raving lunatics (“Let’s get into a proxy war with the world’s largest nuclear power!”), whose time horizon is about 3.8 seconds into the future.

                • alf says:

                  the sane option is to monetize the unpayable debt.

                  From what I understand, monetizing the debt means paying off the existing debt by printing the entire debt in new money. That sounds slightly insane to me? I don’t understand.

                • The Cominator says:

                  The constitution at least as 14th amendment clause 4 as interpreted forbids an outright default. While the constitution can be ignored sometimes when the people who want it followed are completely powerless and despised its not likely to be ignored when many powerful factions hold US government bonds.

                  But otoh there is absolutely no way in hell the debt can ever be paid, no way the government could ever allow deflation with the fed system (you had the great depression last time they tried) but otoh must continue to print money… and this malinvest is in part what is strangling economic life…

                  I’m an advocate of rapid de facto default by intentional monetization, preferably by printing trillion dollar coins and such. Savers and bondholders will be wiped out, real estate and stock holders will hold their value fine. It cannot be avoided…

                  Its insane except doing anything else continously is more insane. Also it will shock the system to such an extent that America will have to withdraw into itself and fix itself…

                • alf says:

                  Haha OK the insanity is part of the plan. I think Jim’s plan sounds slightly less insane to my ears, but I agree that we are getting beyond the point where sane versus insane is a consideration for policy.

                • Kunning Drueger says:

                  This all seems so… contrived. Like, it’s layer up on layer of D&D type rules and regulations and precedents, which is fine when everyone at the table is a party to the rulebook AND wishes to continue roleplaying, but isn’t there a real risk of reality overtaking the projection? Like, gangs setting up shop in poorly run cities and instituting barter systems, or rural communities exiting the financial system and localizing everything they can. Com said something about savers and bondholders being “wiped out.” Demographically speaking, aren’t they representative of the only elements of our society holding things together?

                  When I look at pictures of Yellin and other financial gurus, I see old, frail people. Are they really going to keep it together long enough to “fix” things, or will they just flee to China or some place as America implodes?

                • The Cominator says:

                  Do you have a way of getting rid of the debt KD? We are about at the point where we have to get rid of it no matter what… and there is no nice way of getting rid of it.

                  Yes there will be a period of disruption afterwords, but leftists say sabotaging domestic oil production afterwords won’t be tolerated.

                  Savers and bondholders… mostly institutions run by midwits managing other peoples money (the manager class is our secondary enemy after the priest class) and old boomers. The Amerikaner middle class such as is owns maybe some real estate (that hes heavily in debt on generally) and some stonks.

                • jim says:

                  A debt default is baked into the cake. Debt can go to zero while the dollar retains value by raising interest rates to the real inflation rate, thus rapidly ending inflation, and then defaulting on unpayable bond dividends and maturities. However a more likely scenario is that the debt is paid off in worthless dollars, and both debt and the dollar go to zero.

                  It would be considerably less destructive to only have debt collapse while keeping the dollar and dollar prices stable, and would likely mean that the collapse could be postponed for longer, though the collapse would have a definite dramatic date, the day that bond payments failed to arrive, while with destroying both federal debt and the dollar you can go on pretending everything is perfectly normal the whole way down.

                  A lot of broke countries have followed a strategy of defaulting on their debt while preserving their currency, and have suffered considerably less harm by following that path. Government is broke, but production and consumption continues, while collapsing both debt and currency tends to bring the entire economy to a grinding halt.

                  The detachment of our elite class and our Sarbanes Oxley accountants from empirical and falsifiable reality makes the latter solution, destroying both the dollar and debt, more likely.

                  The entire Global American Empire has massively escalated the extent of its lying about both election outcomes and inflation rates, the lies representing a commitment to “Point Deer make horse”. 指鹿為馬

                  When the story that a priestly caste is coordinating on gets too far out of contact with reality, when they are coordinating on claims about this world that are false, falsifiable, and readily falsifiable, any sense of honor or decency becomes a disqualifying characteristic.

                  In a holiness spiral, the lies get worse and worse, and thus the people recruited into priestly jobs get worse and worse. Accounting has been assimilated to the priesthood, thus value and the movement of value is being tracked by evil crooks who are trained that lying is holiness, and the bigger and more blatant the lie the holier you are.

                  The US is acting as if its GDP and military were still mighty. They are not. Sooner or later, reality is going to hit, though it may well take quite a while.

                • The Cominator says:

                  The problem is that everyone powerful claims just defaulting is unconstitutional.

                • jim says:

                  “Living constitution”

                • Kunning Druegger says:

                  No Com, I have not even the wisp of an idea on how to solve the situation. What I was getting at, and what you further articulated, is that there is an extant and expanding divide between the various “participants” in the economy. When you say “bondholders and savers,” I have no mental image of a bondholder, and a saver, to me, is someone like my grandfather, who holds 4-5 properties (all acquired decades ago for cash), holds various stock options in stuff he found worthy of investing in (no details really, accept he was one of the original [investors?] after McDonald’s went public) decades ago, and lives incredibly frugally. He may be atypical, but I wonder who the “savers” are.

                  I guess the real question is what happens outside the managerial class. As Jim pointed out, countries have defaulted, but life continued on. Maybe this isn’t possible given America’s integral position to the GAE as an entity. So what happens to those outside the stock market, outside of “sophisticated” finance, if there’s a default? These are not rhetorical questions. I was a young pothead in 2008, and I distinctly remember that the headlines and soundbites were starkly contrasted by life carrying on in exactly the same way that it always had. Being an impoverished degenerate, it’s likely I wouldn’t have noticed much unless pot and pills prices had skyrocketed.

                  For me, the fundamental question is: what new opportunities and challenges will Tribe Jim have if there’s a “total collapse of economic life?”

                • jim says:

                  > For me, the fundamental question is: what new opportunities and challenges will Tribe Jim have if there’s a “total collapse of economic life?”

                  Right now, I am building a vegetable garden, and in due course will acquire chickens. But before acquiring chickens, will need to build a snake proof and chickenproof fence around the property.

                  But you were probably thinking of other forms of investment. The US dollar is going down with the Global American Empire.

                  There is a lot of ruin in a nation. Markets can remain irrational longer than you can remain solvent. The fall of the US dollar has been predicted for a very long time, and it has not fallen. But its fall is has evidently become a lot closer over the last year. Events are accelerating rapidly. Past performance is no guarantee of future results, and recent performance of the US$ is that you have lost thirty to fifty percent of your purchasing power, while official statistics piously say that prices rose 8.5% and your income supposedly rose by a bit more than that. The escalation of lying is an even better predictor of the future than the escalation of the price of groceries, fuel, lumber, and used cars.

                  The US dollar is resting on its laurels that it gained when Reagan broke the back of inflation. That was forty years ago. A new generation, of idiots, lunatics, and demon worshipers is in charge.

                  The usual trend to hyperinflation is a series of inflationary shocks, with breathers between the shocks, with the breathers between shocks getting shorter and shorter and the shocks more and more severe. A breather is due around now. It will be a bull trap, a bad time to go long in dollars and dollar denominated assets, a good time to liquidate dollars and dollar denominated assets, a good time to buy crypto currency and to directly invest (without a Global American Empire intermediary) in BRICS assets. Hong Kong and Singapore stockbrokers are a lot safer than US stockbrokers. US financial institutions are becoming increasingly dangerous, due to declining elite virtue and Sarbanes Oxley accounting, which tracks holiness rather than assets, as peer review tracks theology rather than evidence. If you invest in Sarbanes Oxley assets, when the $#!% hits the fan, the assets will turn out to be absent. Recollect the Great Minority Mortgage Meltdown. To no one’s surprise, the borrowers could not be found, but I was startled when it turned out that in many cases the houses could not be found either.

                  Sarbanes Oxley accounting is ritualistic, like Jewish law, and just as Jewish law bears no connection to the spirit and intent of the ten commandments, Sarbanes Oxley accounting bears no relationship to real assets of real value. The meltdown revealed a closed circle of paper assets backed by paper assets, without connection to real people who needed houses and could pay for them, and frequently without connection to real houses.

                • Mayflower Sperg says:

                  From what I understand, monetizing the debt means paying off the existing debt by printing the entire debt in new money. That sounds slightly insane to me? I don’t understand.

                  It’s a simple plan: The government monetizes the debt, dollars become worthless, the government effectively stops existing, its bureaucrats become starving refugees fanning out into the country in search of food, and a dozen or so end up in Cominator’s freezer.

                  Which I hope he has a large solar panel for, because meat spoils fast in the Florida heat, and it’s hard to buy electricity or fuel for a generator when money’s worth nothing.

                  Why settle for a deflationary debt default when you can have a hyperinflationary cannibal holocaust instead?

                • The Cominator says:

                  You can do the living constitution thing when the people who loudly shout the letter of the constitution are powerless nobodies…

                  But there are many powerful bondholders. Your grandfather will be fine with his lands and stocks.

                • jim says:

                  > there are many powerful bondholders.

                  They are not as powerful as those who get free money from the fed, and Reagan stepped hard on the parasitic value destroyers who get free money.

                • Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

                  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtFyP0qy9XU

                  Bathhouse attendant Kevin Spacey stands in for the Ivy League processed manager who is possessed of the same fundamental weltanschauung as the gnostics who hate him, while Jeremy Irons’ character furtively channels more ancient, primeval sentiments on life, civilization, and the fates of men.

                  Spacey’s character agonizes over the fact that by selling off all the (ambiguously middle-of-the-road) firm’s junk mortgage-backed security packages, in those scant time periods before more market actors at large started reacting to the fact that the plane is crashing with no survivors, every party they convinced to buy is basically fucked.

                  But whether they noticed the game was up then, or noticed that the minority mortgage scheme was bunkum years ago ahead of time, the basic principle is still the same. That it is not just okay or an acceptable side effect for parties participating in malinvestent to go bust, it is their *duty* to make them go bust, because it is *good* for them to go bust; higher levels of civilization depend on respect for this principle.

                  The purpose of all the stacked up layers of arcane meta-referential financial instrumentalization is at a basal level a simple value-add; arrangement of capital to go towards good applications of capital – to good *appliers* of capital.

                  You run some business, do some job, fulfill some purpose, and remuneration acquired thereby is a representation of value you created thereby, of the potestas you facilitated thereby.

                  Suppose you want to use these signals of potestas to arrange the performance of further potency facilitating activities – that is, invest. But what do you know about anything? Coming to know anything about your area of vocation alone is hard enough. No one being within a universe is going to be a universal intellect; and likewise, no one party will necessarily have the capital to bootstrap valuable activities on their own. So while you may not know so much about XYZ, you can put surplus capital towards someone who does; and the accomplishment of this at scale is what could be said is the whole matter of financial innovation.

                  The present state of affairs is largely a product of progressive accretion of generations of subversive dissimulations for lack of value creation, or hostile arrangements for parasitization of capital from parties creating value to parties destroying value creation; the fossilized remains of past power-grabs persisting as geological strata, heedless of externality.

                  Realistically speaking, it is highly unlikely the GAE will stop inflating in it’s lifetime, because the parties that are first in line for hand outs of conjured fedbucks – be it through unbacked lending or other means – are also the unholiest of political hobbyhorses. The question of stopping inflation has become identical to a question of the GAE abandoning it’s state religion. The ‘evil genius’ argument of ‘collapse of SWIFT, petrodollar, and debt seignorage in general through runaway inflation will interfere with our designs for world domination’ could play 50 years ago, but there are precious little signs of either will or ability for it to play today. At this point, it can no more stop this high time-preference behavior than it can voluntarily disenfranchise it’s own theocracy; one requires the other – and if such a case were to come about, that would certainly be a miraculous happenstance.

                • Neurotoxin says:

                  My guess: Partial de-facto default through inflation – this is already happening – and a partial default that will be called a “temporary tax on interest and principal payments on Treasury debt.”

                  The federal government owes you $X on the coupon payment that just came due, but will only give you $0.6X, because there has been a 40% tax applied. Really this is just a 40% default.

                • The Cominator says:

                  “For me, the fundamental question is: what new opportunities and challenges will Tribe Jim have if there’s a “total collapse of economic life?”

                  The “total collapse of economic life” is what happens if the fed actually tries to raise interest rates to say 10% not in the event of either default or monetization default. |

                  Default either way will result in the total fucking of the priest, government and managerial classes but economic life will likely recover and grow stronger very quickly as the administrative state and the various troublemaking parasite classes will simply cease to exist.

                • jim says:

                  The “total collapse of economic life” is what happens if the fed actually tries to raise interest rates to say 10% not in the event of either default or monetization default. |

                  Nuts.

                  When inflation was way lower than it is now, Reagan raised interest rates to 18%. There were no end of announcements that economic lie would collapse, swiftly followed by no end of announcements that economic life had collapsed, with no end of scholarly statistics indisputably proving that it had collapsed.

                  But in fact, the economy boomed, with announcements that it had collapsed becoming every more absurdly and outrageously discrepant with everyone’s lived experience. After a while, the doom data and the doom announcements became just too embarrassing, and were memory holed, and they gave up on that, and went straight to appeals to envy, pointing out that the rich were getting richer, meaning that suddenly large numbers of the wrong people, people who were not supposed to prosper, were prospering, and we should object to that. They were outraged that the quasi state economy was no longer strangling the private economy.

                  What had in fact collapsed were the extremely wealthy friends of the fed who had been getting immense amounts of free money, but these people destroy value, they do not create value, and they not only constitute an absolutely insignificant fraction of the people, they constitute a rather small, though rather rich and powerful, fraction of the rich. Suddenly cutting the parasites off from the federal teat not only had no effect on the vast majority not on the federal teat, it directly benefited them, and permitted them prosperity that they had been denied.

                • alf says:

                  Right now, I am building a vegetable garden, and in due course will acquire chickens.

                  Ha! Same. The girlfriend manages the vegetable garden, she is doing great so far. Had some tasty home-grown roast potatoes just yesterday. Building the chicken coop is on my to-do list.

                • The Cominator says:

                  I had heard that the 1st two years of Reagan were bad, but things reversed dramatically after they lowered rates.

                  But anyway you can’t really break inflation via rate increases except very short term now… too much government debt the higher the rate the more the government must borrow…

                • jim says:

                  You can break inflation permanently and immediately by raising interest rates to the real rate of inflation. After a while people will stop believing that federal debt will ever be repaid. Which will take quite a while. When people finally stop buying federal debt at any interest rate or discount rate, then you have a problem, but that problem is not inflation.

                • Neurotoxin says:

                  Jim:

                  the economy boomed, with announcements that it had collapsed becoming every more absurdly and outrageously discrepant with everyone’s lived experience. After a while, the doom data and the doom announcements became just too embarrassing, and were memory holed, and they gave up on that, and went straight to appeals to envy.

                  “Decade of greed.”

                  Cominator:

                  I had heard that the 1st two years of Reagan were bad, but things reversed dramatically after they lowered rates.

                  The Fed wrang inflation out of the economy at the cost of a recession (or two recessions with a brief intermission between them, whatever). After the inflation had been killed off, interest rates fell. Things didn’t get better because interest rates fell.

                • jim says:

                  > I had heard that the 1st two years of Reagan were bad, but things reversed dramatically after they lowered rates.

                  All the Reagan years including the first two years of Reagan were great economically, despite non stop announcements that they were absolutely terrible through every loudspeaker and no end of official data officially declaring that they were terrible. The Reagan “recession” was just obvious nonsense within four months of him taking office, despite no end of official data, official interpretation, and official statistics, to the contrary.

                  Things did not recover after two years. They recovered immediately on Reagan taking office, and the loudspeakers gave up on lying barefaced after two years because just too silly and too embarrassing.

                • Neurotoxin says:

                  “Things did not recover after two years. They recovered immediately on Reagan taking office, and the loudspeakers gave up on lying barefaced after two years because just too silly and too embarrassing.”

                  I’m going with the official stats on this one: both theory and experience from all over the world tell us that to kill an inflation you have to step on the brake pedal. It’s not surprising that that would cause a recession in the short run.

                • jim says:

                  But who is affected by a “recession” that occurs during runaway inflation?

                  Turns out is only the rich rich on the revolving door between regulators and regulated, who had special privilege to borrow large amounts of money at negative interest real rates due to implicit state guarantees.

                  If we believe official statistics (and there were a great many official statistics that smelled mighty funny) there was for nine months a rise in unemployment among ordinary Americans, but by that measure, a mild and brief recession. Maybe that statistic is true, because if they were making it up, as they made up so much else, it would have been an end of the world rise in unemployment.

                  The only stat that directly represents the ordinary American’s experience of “recession” (unemployment) showed an effect, but an entirely undramatic effect of eighteen percent interest rates during high inflation.

                • Aryaman says:

                  Moreover there should be an increase in unemployment, if temporary.

                  Caring too much about employment metrics reflects an emphasis on the labor theory of value. Stable prices will help normal enterprises plan their business, thereby promote productive employment. That is not a recession even if it means lots of government contractors go out of business for want of sufficiently cheap financing.

                • jim says:

                  And it was not a recessio. When the seignorage tax was reduced to well below the Laffer limit, a boom immediately ensued, even though unemployment may have risen briefly and moderately. Taxes always reduce economic activity, and the seignorage tax is particularly damaging, producing supply chain chaos which is officially deemed to be prosperity.

                • skippy says:

                  Unemployment makes people angry. Only governments with legitimacy can tolerate it. In the scheme of things, 10% unemployment for a year or two (“Reagan crash”) is inconsequential. Two years of more and worse bad economic news today might destroy the Progressive regime in the USA.

                • Globalist Power Terminated II says:

                  Two years of more and worse bad economic news today might destroy the Progressive regime in the USA.

                  praise gnon

                • Neurotoxin says:

                  “And it was not a recessio(n).”

                  Pretty sure it was a recession. If you’re worried about protecting Reagan’s legacy, I wouldn’t sweat it: the holiness spiral has accelerated so fast that the politics of that time seem antediluvian now.

                  Also, the first part of the “double-dip” recession was during 1980, when Carter was still Pres. So, who cares?

                • jim says:

                  > Pretty sure it was a recession.

                  You are reading hostile enemy propaganda. You should discount it as motivated for propaganda purposes.

                  > If you’re worried about protecting Reagan’s legacy,

                  It is not the Reagan legacy I am protecting, but economics 101: “Economics in One Lesson”

                  There is a massive doomsday cult propaganda offensive for the seigniorage tax, just as there is a massive envy cult propaganda offensive for the income tax. Naturally any state needs funds, and our state needs a lot of funds. You should discount the propaganda for what it is.

                  There was a big and obvious difference between the second “dip” of the “recession” and the first dip, which made the first unpopular and the second popular, which the phrase “double dip” obfuscates, evades, and denies. This is the same propaganda tactic as Anonymous Fake denying any change in the occupant of Walt Disney’s exhumed skin.

                  High negative real interest rates, low nominal interest rates in a time of high inflation, are a severe seigniorage tax. All taxes reduce the economic activity that is being taxed. All tax reductions stimulate the economic activity that is no longer being taxed. You always get less of what you tax, and more of what you subsidize. Reagan’s “second dip recession” was no different. Economic activity recovers within days of the tax ending.

                  There was massive supply chain chaos in the first dip. The second “dip” was not a dip, it was the restoration of supply chain order being deliberately miscounted as a dip. What the seigniorage tax taxes is the coordination of production by the marketplace. For propaganda reasons, the disruption and collapse of this coordination gets counted as prosperity, and its restoration as recession, but it did not feel like recession, just as the prosperity that Biden’s talking heads are reporting does not feel like prosperity.

                • Neurotoxin says:

                  Meh, not worth arguing about.

                  “It’s dead, Jim.”

                • jim says:

                  Economics 101 can never die. True yesterday and true tomorrow. We are in the midst of ever escalating levels of denial, which is itself an indication that Economics 101 lives. You are conceding to enemy memes that are dying before our eyes.

                  They abandoned those memes in the middle of “Reagan recession” and jumped on the envy narrative because those memes were losing traction, much as “oppressed and victimized gay” is losing traction, and Biden’s spokescritter announcements of prosperity meet a stony reception.

              • The Cominator says:

                The days of that ended when Russia was booted out of SWIFT.

                It did not literally end that day but the days became limited.

              • Neurotoxin says:

                Here’s another factor: The crucial role of US Treasury bonds in US and some international financial markets.

                For example, they’re often used as collateral in the repurchase agreement market, which has a trading volume of trillions of dollars per day.

                They also play a key role in hedging interest rate risk, a market which is unfathomably vast – its “notional value” is 100s of trillions of dollars, much larger than planetary GDP. “notional value” is just an accounting concept and not all of that involves T-debt, but a lot of it does.

                If there is a default (whether it’s actually called a “default” or not), the value of T-bonds will plummet and entire hedging/risk management markets could be vaporized – just… gone.

                Maturity risk: involves interest rate risk but also liquidity risk. E.g., an insurance company with lots of long-term liabilities can hold lots of long-term Treasury debt as assets, to balance the maturities of its assets and liabilities. When the bottom drops out of the Treasury markets…?

                • jim says:

                  Reflect on what happened to financial markets during the Great Minority Mortgage Meltdown. They became a fraud and a charade. The ticker reported prices and sales, but you somehow could not sell at those prices, or at any price. Because the prices were fake, only shills and suckers were buying at those prices, and they were only buying from the man who was manufacturing wash sales to fake out the market. If you wanted to sell your mortgage backed securities, which had been revealed as backed by mortgages owed by persons unknown and unfindable, often on properties that were subject to multiple mortgages or which could not be found at all, somehow the sale just did not go through, yet the charade continued.

                  The bottom did not drop out of the market, instead the market, always partially fraudulent, became completely fraudulent. The same will happen to the repurchase agreement market. Instead of being ninety percent fake, it will become one hundred percent fake, a ritual continued to maintain the tradition that normality is still in effect.

                • The Cominator says:

                  Treasury bonds will of course immediately become worthless in the event of default or even de fact monetization default.

                • Neurotoxin says:

                  Jim: “The bottom did not drop out of the [mortgage-backed security] market, instead the market, always partially fraudulent, became completely fraudulent. The same will happen to the repurchase agreement market.”

                  My prediction on that: If the RePo market seizes up, the Fed will just do what it did during (and weirdly, somewhat before) the COVID mess: It will print trillions of dollars, if it has to, to keep that market alive.

                  The equivalent of doing that in the T-bond market would be to print lots of $ to buy those bonds. Obviously, that would be an abandonment of any attempt to fight inflation. I can even see a scenario in which the legal limits on the Fed’s ability to buy T-bonds directly from the Treasury will be repealed, or simply ignored.

    • jim says:

      Singapore has an electronic system – you get a dongle that holds a little conversation with the scanner when you sail past the scanner. For a truly private system, could be rendered as a blockchain.

      • notglowing says:

        Also exists here, it’s called Telepass. But it requires a subscription cost, entirely separate from the road tolls themselves.

        I think automatically scanning license plates has more potential, it was not technologically feasible when Telepass was invented, but it should be trivial now. It requires no extra technology on cars, and more importantly, no controlled access at the gates to prevent cars from entering without a dongle (which slows down traffic, as you have to wait for the gates to open)
        License plates are not only connected to the car owner’s identity, but also the car’s model which lets you determine weight class automatically.

        Telepass also requires a battery that needs to be recharged.

        • The Cominator says:

          Gas tax is better in all respects at least until cars become all electric. Its big trucks that tear up the road while sedans do it not at all. The ones that damage it should pay maintenence. The idea to make things more “fair” than gas tax is profoundly stupid. Tolls should be for private roads only.

          Creepy surveillance state alternatives to the gas tax are stupid and unneeded.

          • notglowing says:

            >Its big trucks that tear up the road while sedans do it not at all
            Big trucks pay far more than smaller vehicles. I mentioned that, it is based on your weight class.
            That said, all cars use the road, and I don’t believe smaller cars do not wear it out at all.
            Even if that is the case, over time, roads will degrade. They need maintenance, and need capital to be built in the first place.

            A large part of our road system was built quickly *thanks* to the toll system, since the private companies that bought the concessions contributed significantly to funding the infrastructure to begin with. As I said, unfortunately the government bought back the main company running it, though there are still private highways.

            As for the surveillance aspect, surveillance itself may be bad, but that is already mandatory in order to enforce speed limits. I’m merely suggesting the same system can be used for greater convenience. The problem with the surveillance argument is you cannot prevent government or private companies from installing cameras along major highways, I know I’d be favourable to it if I owned one, it seems good to have evidence if something bad happens.

            I don’t know if toll highways would work well in the US, and they did not pay for the infrastructure to be built like they did here. I wanted to invite discussion about it but I’d never expect americans to just accept it since they never had this extra cost. I know I’d be annoyed.
            But I think it’s a fine system in my country, though it is upsetting our gas taxes are still high. Unfortunately while this could be a way to lower them, governments will squeeze out whatever they can. But one side of the equation works, the problem is with the other.

            • C4ssidy says:

              Intuition tells me that the European tolls are used to punish car users rather than than being used only to cover the maintenance of the motorway . It would often be cheaper to take a backwater single lane road even when the motorway was practically empty. As practically implemented, the European ones become an annoying headache. The user has to do an annoying calculation every journey.

              could imagine an ancap utopia where your 4k car screen calculates a million possible routes each billing you for a tiny fraction of crypto and one would make the perfect tradeoff between price, quality, speed and safety. It’s a hard question whether the end point is really possible . Something tells me you’d hit a co-ordination problem or two

              But currently I’m using an iPhone while driving , which is not only not smart enough, but would not have the data feeds. imo the Europeans are niggers. They will even close a road for roadworks with apparently no synchronicity between the roadwork schedule and Google maps, so not much hope in general for allowing rational actors to make efficient decisions. The tolls are really just there to encourage trains by ripping you off, appeasing the climate-gods

  24. Yul Bornhold says:

    Russia openly offering wife, house and children to men who take up the way of the warrior:

    https://twitter.com/mjluxmoore/status/1545043518695038976/photo/1

    • Globalist Power Terminated II says:

      G-GNON BE PRAISED!

    • Frank Matters says:

      Not to spread DESPAIR but this means almost nothing

      Pros:
      Wife and kids is protrayed as an honorable goal
      Showing desire to fight priestly influence of eternal schooling

      Cons:
      Are they actually lifting a finger to bring about getting recruits healthy families? I doubt it.
      Are they actually forming apprenticeship networks so high eye que slavs can contribute to the growing logistical demands of high tech warfare and society without dealing with priestly intervention? I doubt it.

      Barking without biting. I like the spiritual direction of the propaganda but regular russians need some actual doings. Putler’s successor is going to rule over a landmass filled with weird eurasian and caucasus tribes, with a smattering of South Africans, Black Germans, Old Believers and actual slavs

      • Mister Grumpus says:

        Watch for special marriage, custody and male-side reproductive rights for veterans. That’s when you know they’re fucking serious.

        Soldiers do not fight on rations and artillery alone.

        • Frank Matters says:

          If the Taliban and the Daesh can offer these things, why cannot Putler.

          Imagine how many competent volunteers he would get declaring a Holy Orthodox Army and offering trad marriage and a land package contingent on good service. Have a meat grinder filter and some way of making best use of the smarties, have the whole structure run with him as Commander in Chief. Excellent opportunity to sharpen Inquisition against entryists, as the foreign volunteers will need tremendous vetting to be effective.

          • Mister Grumpus says:

            Doesn’t even need to offer cash or balance sheet assets. Just basics like:

            Can’t abort the child of a veteran.
            Can’t divorce a veteran.
            Or rather, no child support or custody if you do.

            Guys will be walking into Russia from all over Europe for the chance to renounce their GAE citizenship and sign up.

            • someDude says:

              That would be the nuclear option. That would mean the destruction of the west. That would mean Putin knows whats what in totality. My understanding is Putin knows whats what in parts, but not in totality. So this is not on the cards for the forseeable future. Putin is Based, but not that based.

              • Kunning Drueger says:

                But it will end up here because it must.

                We are fundamentally correct in our long term assessment of societal health and structure. The Progressives retain massive influence and capital reserves, giving them the ability to literally purchase and deploy smokescreens. They have the ability to offer children to Moloch because their smokescreen says “there’s no such thing as Moloch, goy” and the normies but that because the truth is too painful. The normies buy into ESG, DEI, and TGR because the smokescreens all say “it’s not happening, and if it is happening, it’s not a bad thing, and if it’s a bad thing, you deserve it” which is fascinating and hilarious, but it cannot continue forever. It’s like snorting meth instead of sleeping; it’s a terminal strategy.

                So at some point the shell games and three card monte and hide-the-pedophile-in-the-elementary-school is going to stop working, and it will be boiled down to “do what we say because our way of life is better.” If it’s demonstrably true, the masses will lean into it. This applies to all the poles of power. There are lots of indicators to watch for, but white flight out of the GAE periphery is the most important, because it will signal a cascade of “de-normalizations” in the GAE core.

      • Yul Bornhold says:

        Winning an actual war with stacks of burnt out corpses and gore splattered across the streets will lead to increase of fertility among Russian soldiers and, possibly, Russia as a whole. The heady wine of victory makes a powerful aphrodisiac.

  25. Pax Imperialis says:

    Why is depression so widespread in the population? At face value it’s highly detrimental. Based on survival of the fittest model, strictly negative traits should have been largely bred out of the population, yet depression persists in adult females (10.5% That’s a lot!) and to a lesser degree males (6.2%).

    Could it be that depression has evolutionary benefits? As in asymmetric sexual value.

    The connection between low libido and depression is well documented among women. Thus you are more likely to find chaste behaving women among those who are genetically predisposed to depression. A depressed women is also less likely to leave the house (owned territory) and thus has massively reduced exposure to males outside the house.

    Obviously exposure to other males is a prerequisite for sexual relations hence why tomboys, girls who hang out with the boys from a young age, tend to engage in sexual activities at younger ages on average compared to non-tomboys.

    Since males are historically under evolutionary pressure to guard their reproductive territory from other males, females who don’t actively engage in trying to leave well guarded owned territory therefore require far less energy expenditure by males to keep the other males away. Lower libido may mean lower fertility (at least in modern times where women dictate, men dictate in traditional relationships, lesbian marriages end up sexless); however, with the tradeoff of lower risk of being cucked means higher overall successful male reproduction at the individual level.

    For example, a man raising 4 children unknowing that 1 of them is another man’s, is as successful at reproducing (based purely on numbers) as a man raising 3 children with all of them being his biological descendants. However the man raising 3 biological descendants has a clear advantage in that there is no 4th fake draining away limited resources and energy from the 3 actual children. Nor is the man raising children with a depressed women of low libido having to constantly chase away other men leaving more energy to potentially focus on having more of his children thus counterintuitively raising fertility via lower low female libido. Men who aren’t constantly THOT patrolling have more time to be impregnating.

    Contrast the reproductive value of a depressed women with a depressed man. There is no apparent value for men to be depressed and many negatives. Hence lower rates of depression among men compared to women would align with the idea that depression exists or doesn’t exist in populations due to evolutionary pressures. Moreover, depression among men tends to be linked to trauma rather than depression among women who tend to have it on a more inherent basis.

    This has some interesting implications.

    Modern efforts to decrease female (non-trauma related) depression is in fact potentially dysgenic since it
    1) Increases the energy men must commit to guarding their reproductive territory.
    2) Is likely a net negative towards overall fertility.
    3) Increases the number of bastards in society.
    4) Promotes infidelity.

    • The Cominator says:

      > Female depression is good
      They get fat and wine drunk (alone) and becone cat ladies you idiot and if they have families they are fucking insufferable.

      • Pax Imperialis says:

        >>Female depression is good
        Completely misses the point. There are evolutionary benefits to being able to feel pain for example. People who can’t feel pain don’t get feedback signal to deal with the problem. Likewise, there are evolutionary benefits to female depression and trying to remove that system is liable for bad outcomes.

        You also got the causality wrong.

        Women generally don’t become fat, wine drunk, and cat ladies because they are depressed.

        Women who are fat, wine drunk, and cat ladies become unhappy and at times depressed. In that case the depression is the outcome (of self induced trauma) rather than a cause. Arguably the depression is a good thing for them to serve as a wake up call; however, modern society is more likely to try to medicate them rather than facilitate that depression into fixing the underlying issues.

        Moreover, rates of female depression are fairly similar between both traditional cultures and modern cultures yet one has an abundance of fat drunk cat ladies and the other doesn’t. Female depression is not highly correlated with fat drunk cat ladies.

        What is highly correlated with female depression is child birth and raising families. Around one in seven women can develop postpartum depression making it a leading cause of female depression. Consider how rough child bearing was historically, it’s likely beneficial that women were prone to depression with low libido right after child birth to prevent rushing into the next pregnancy prior to recovery. In general low female libido is a good thing and depression can cause it in exchange for some drawbacks. It’s a tradeoff that on average has more benefits than costs.

        >they are fucking insufferable.
        Almost all women right there.

        • The Cominator says:

          “Likewise, there are evolutionary benefits to female depression and trying to remove that system is liable for bad outcomes.”

          The clown world system ain’t making women happier and that you think it is makes me think you must be much much more autistic than I am.

          “You also got the causality wrong.”

          I think not, you’re the one inverting the causality to defend this very very stupid original idea of yours that causing women to be miserable as a policy is a good idea… newsflash the globohomo elite quite agree with you there and its not because they think it maximizes societal fitness. Women are not wired for long term contentment but they are way unhappier in clownworld than they were in the past. Overall female happiness probably peaked in the US in around the 1950s.

          “Arguably the depression is a good thing for them to serve as a wake up call”

          You are attributing a level of introspection to women they do not possess, women are too narcissistic to view themselves as at fault for anything. Women with the BPD personality profile CAN view themselves critically but the result of that is they are prettymuch always depressed and driven to madness. In their case it doesn’t stop them from promiscous behavior either.

          “Moreover, rates of female depression are fairly similar between both traditional cultures and modern cultures”

          If this were 4chan my response to this would be Ray Liotta as Henry Hill laughing. You aren’t smart enough to post here this is some of the stupidest shit I’ve ever read. If it were just this it would be one thing but you also blamed Martin Luther for clownworld… Catholic homosex

          “Almost all women right there.”

          This makes you sound like a homosexual. I hate modern American women especially post later clownworld but even 10 years ago there were lots of women who were a joy to be around.

          • Red says:

            This makes you sound like a homosexual. I hate modern American women especially post later clownworld but even 10 years ago there were lots of women who were a joy to be around.

            20 years ago there were a lot more women under the thumb of an Alpha Male or under the influence of a less evil religion.

            My sister was an entitled lying piece of shit given artificially high status by parents and the state religion well into her 20s. Then she married a natural Alpha and her shitty behavior disappeared almost over night. I like spending time with her now after despising her for most of my life. If you want a woman who’s a joy to be around, you’re going to have Alpha up for her.

            • Pax Imperialis says:

              Problem is that even when you Alpha up for a women such that she is pleasant to be around, you’ll still be surrounded by a mob of women under the influence of the state religion. And there is no escaping them either as they permeate the work force and all sectors of life due to gender equality laws.

              Cominator hates most women for the same reason I find most insufferable. There is much common ground and I don’t understand why he doesn’t see that.

              • Red says:

                Cominator hates most women for the same reason I find most insufferable. There is much common ground and I don’t understand why he doesn’t see that.

                Hating women is the blackpill and it’s a pill that causes disrepair. I swallowed that pill in my early 20s but I coughed it back out once I understood the evolutionary basis for Women’s behavior. Once you stop treating women as equals and expecting the lies about women you where raised on to be true, you’ll find life a lot more pleasant for both you and them.

              • Aidan says:

                Good women under a strong man’s thumb tend to despise or not get along with shitty women.

          • Pax Imperialis says:

            >The clown world system ain’t making women happier and that you think it is
            Not what I’m talking about. Being unhappy is not the same as depression. Women are far unhappier today than they were say 10 years ago. Women 10 years ago are unhappier than they were 20 years ago. So on and so forth since suffrage movement. No disagreement there, but rates of depression have held fairly consistent.

            Close to 30 years and not a single budge in overall rates of depression.
            https://www.statista.com/statistics/1035134/percentage-of-people-with-depression-worldwide-by-gender/

            Practically no correlation between traditional/modern cultures/economics/etc and rate of depression.
            https://journals.plos.org/plosmedicine/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pmed.1001547

            >that causing women to be miserable as a policy is a good idea

            Where did I say causing women to be miserable as a policy is a good idea? I said “modern efforts to decrease female (non-trauma related) depression is in fact potentially dysgenic.” You are having a knee jerk reaction and putting words in my mouth.

            >globohomo elite quite agree with you
            Wrong. They think they can get rid of all depression by transcending humanity. Medicate it away via ever stronger drugs. I’m saying depression serves a biological purpose and trying to eradicate it is akin to getting rid of pain by shutting down the nerve system/pain receptors. An absolutely crazy prospect. That is not saying pain is good. That is not saying depression is good. It’s saying that it’s crazy to attempt to disable the biology that causes those things because they serve a purpose.

            >Overall female happiness probably peaked in the US in around the 1950s.
            Again talking about depression. Not happiness. Rates of depression are stubbornly disconnected from reported happiness.

            >You are attributing a level of introspection to women
            I am not, did you not see the rest of what I wrote? “modern society is more likely to try to medicate them rather than facilitate that depression into fixing the underlying issues.” Depressed women do take the initiative to go to see a therapist (or a priest), but I put the responsibility of fixing the problem completely on society. It’s not the job of women to have introspection. It’s societal institutions such as church/health care (run by men) to have that introspection, but as I said modern society doesn’t utilize that depression correct to fix the underlying problem.

            >[BPD] In their case it doesn’t stop them from promiscous behavior either
            Sure… but BPD is also not depression. Depression is well linked to lower libido.

            >You also blamed Martin Luther for clownworld… Catholic homosex
            ? I don’t think I’ve ever brought up Martin Luther. I’m completely lost at where this is coming from.

            Lastly I find nearly all women insufferable. I do not hate them and I do love many of them. They are also highly misguided and won’t shut up about abortion and “my body my choice” crap in which case my mind shuts off and I just pretend to listen. Something most men are familiar with doing.

            • The Cominator says:

              Maybe you were someone else if so I apologize…

              Modern women are insufferable partially due to the woke religion and partially because their status and ego has been boosted too high. Too many fat women plus social media, plus them being taught to love other women and hate men… it creates a toxic situation. The full woke mind virus is not necessary for this to work either… as modern leftism is not at all accepted even with women in Florida but they still pick up the programming of men bad women good, don’t settle, if you settled don’t stay.

              The opposite of high female status and ego is not depression, nor is depression and female narcissism mutually exclusive.

              “Sure… but BPD is also not depression. Depression is well linked to lower libido.”

              Not with BPD cases it ain’t. I knew two of them VERY well (and btw I rather like them on the whole). They are pretty much always depressed (with brief interludes of contentment or euphoria) they don’t show it but the suicidal ideation is almost constant and unlike other women who fake that shit… most girls with that… if they don’t kill themselves outright (which is scary) they’ll just eventually start on really really bad drugs which will do it soon enough.

            • Adam says:

              They don’t talk about abortion around alpha. They can’t shut up about having kids and loving kids etc. especially if they know you want kids.

              The abortion/kids issue is environmental. Even if they do think pro-choice, they will act pro-life in front of alpha. Same way they talk about ex boyfriends in front of beta, but wouldn’t dare mention one in front of alpha.

              Regardless it’s irrelevant. What they want or believe doesn’t matter. What they want is alpha male attention, and patriarchy. You know that’s what they want because that’s when they are most happy.

              It is an act of cruelty to allow females sexual choice. They are not built to suffer that temptation. As Genesis clearly illustrates, they should not be left unattended.

    • Frank Matters says:

      Infidelity rate as measured by DNA matched to family name is incredibly low, under 1%. During times when it would have been easier to hide it.

      This whole mate guarding thing is an incredibly recent resurgence of ape behavior. Take this as an example, keeping in mind the known low infidelity rate: https://twitter.com/crimkadid/status/1479897537335103490

      Depression is likely adaptive in some circumstances; one known cause is brain inflammation, wouldn’t do you much good to be hot and lively while fighting off an infection. On the whole, though, I suspect it’s just pure malfunction. People feel like shit because society is collapsing and their bodies are incredibly sick.

      • Kunning Drueger says:

        Wait, I’m confused… I thought the rate of infidelity and textbook cuckoldry (a male raising another male’s offspring) was depressingly high. IIRC a study in the UK found that ~30% of fathers were raising other men’s children unawares. There’ve been multiple studies in GAE university system as well as policy initiatives attempting to portray DNA testing and parentage assignation as sexist or discriminatory. Apologies if I’m misunderstanding.

        • The Cominator says:

          Its 30% when tested for. Which means generally the father has a reason to be suspicious. So probably not nearly that hight in the general population.

          But given that about 40-50% of married women fuck around at some point and that women lie about that stuff very easily… i always assumed it was 4-5%.

        • jim says:

          I am seeing inconsistent data on the rate of cuckoldry.

          Now it could be because of selection effects, but we need to be mindful that their is a lot of political pressure, and a very long history of lying barefaced about female misconduct, a history that began with covering for slut Queen Caroline, and reached over the top heights with making a whore the heroine of Crimean War.

          • The Cominator says:

            Yes a lot of medical personnel will lie in regards to paternity tests as well figuring that very bad things could happen to the child.

            • Cloudswrest says:

              Hah!! The “professionals” are moaning the fact they can’t hid it from the husband anymore!!!

              Personal anecdote. A few years ago a new, first cousin level, match showed up on my account on 23andMe. Now I come from a big extended family and am aware of, and have met, all my legitimate first cousins. So I pm’ed her and asked, “Who are you?”, and she replied, “Who are YOU?” Well after some research and sleuthing, also including my “Nancy Drew” sister and mom, we determined that the new 23andMe connection is the daughter of the “new” biological first cousin. It turns out my uncle sired a pre-marital love child with his girlfriend during WWII but then was immediately shipped overseas. The lady, when she found out she was in the family way, immediately found some beard to marry. After bearing my “new” first cousin the couple subsequently had 7 more kids. It’s not clear my uncle ever knew the kid was his.

              When the new cousin’s daughter brought all the evidence to her dad (in his 70s) he was “shocked” and didn’t want his (now half) siblings to know. The daughter then removed herself from relative matching on 23andMe.

              When discussing the issue with one of my uncle’s legitimate daughters (my aunt and uncle passed away many years ago) she basically politely told me to STFU about this.

              • Cloudswrest says:

                BTW, the new cousin’s daughter not only matched with me. She matched with all relevant relatives in the 23andMe database. My mom, two of my cousins, including one who is her half aunt (half sister to new cousin, the one I mentioned talking to above).

          • notglowing says:

            Showing high rates of infidelity in the past is humiliating the men who lived then and their patriarchy, as well as showing that it didn’t work as intended.

            I am sure they would love to prove most men were always cuckolds and that the traditional system didn’t prevent that.

            • notglowing says:

              Have I been put under moderation?

              • jim says:

                Yes.

                Your post https://blog.reaction.la/party-politics/a-prediction-corrected/#comment-2845595 presupposed that PostChristianity is the real Christianity, and Christians have always accepted that it was, as if no one ever proposed the contrary, while in fact modern postchristianity is a radical new heresy.

                Argument from false consensus.

                • jim says:

                  But, after reviewing your posts, taking you off moderation. Possibly all you know of Christians and Christianity is what faggot entryists who joined to fuck little boys, and Jewish entryists who joined because they hate Christians, Christ, and Christianity, and seek to obliterate the image of Christ and Man, have been telling you, and your question was honest and innocent, rather than intentionally dragging a wagonload of very recent hostile lies about Christianity.

                  But it did drag a wagonload of very recent lies about Christianity.

                  I will explain what all Christians used to know.

                  It was the Pharisees and Sadducees, as events proved, that had destroyed the law, resulting the prophesied expulsion of the Jews, and their rejection as the no longer chosen people.

                  The problem was that the law that could be written was necessarily given in terms appropriate to a particular time, place, people, and technological level, hence the necessity that lawgivers must have authority to write laws in accordance with the eternal and unchanging spirit of the law, but appropriate to the particular place, time, and people, and priests authority to interpret them in accordance with the eternal and unchanging spirit of the law, without too much concern for the biblical letter, or even too much concern for the letter of lawgivers.

                  The Pharisees and Sadducees, of necessity, seized this authority, and proceeded to invent laws that were an excuse for adultery, robbery, and murder, as today’s Jews write laws that are an excuse for swindling, lying, cheating, and adultery.

                  And all Christians used to know this and take it granted, something that nobody spoke about or thought about much, because apart from the Jews, nobody challenged it. Went without saying, because no one contradicted it. King Alfred had to say it, but only because he was talking to pagans who did not know much about Christianity, and had converted pro-forma because their lord had converted at swordpoint, not because he was talking to Christians who had different ideas.

                • Mike in Boston says:

                  Jim wrote:


                  the Pharisees and Sadducees… destroyed the law, resulting the prophesied expulsion of the Jews, and their rejection as the no longer chosen people… all Christians used to know this and take it granted, something that nobody spoke about or thought about much

                  Perhaps spoken of at least somewhat, because I think this is either equivalent, or at least very closely related, to what the Orthodox Church speaks about in the twelfth antiphon of Good Friday:


                  Thus says the Lord to the Jews:
                  My people, what have I done to you,
                  Or how have I offended you?
                  To your blind, I gave sight, your lepers I cleansed,
                  The paralytic I raised from his bed.
                  My people, what have I done to you,
                  And how have you repaid me?
                  Instead of manna, gall; instead of water, vinegar:
                  Instead of loving me, you nail me to the cross.
                  I can bear no more. I shall call the Gentiles mine.
                  They will glorify me with the Father and the Spirit,
                  And I shall give them life eternal.

                • jim says:

                  Parable of the Wicked Vinedressers

                  Should be read in Church once a year. It is a very important parable. We are the chosen people.

                • notglowing says:

                  > and Christians have always accepted that it was, as if no one ever proposed the contrary,
                  That was not the intention behind the post.
                  I said *Nietzsche* framed it, in my recalling, as Christians believing in a linear view of history in contrast to his cyclical view. Which also could be my own misunderstanding.

                  But I specifically tried to avoid implying that I know that Christians believe in progressivism. Rather, it seems there is an opinion that it is this way, which might be wrong.

                  The point was to invite this kind of discussion. *What do Christians, in fact, believe, in regards to changing laws through experience and the idea of history as progress, when the laws of god are fundamentally unchanging?*

                  I could have phrased it better. I was happy with your initial answer, I expected you to say that the Eschaton, being transcendent, is not the result of history, but the main question was regarding what you explained in your post below. You have talked about the spirit of the law and the letter of the law, and Jews before, but this is really the point I was looking for:

                  “The problem was that the law that could be written was necessarily given in terms appropriate to a particular time, place, people, and technological level, hence the necessity that lawgivers must have authority to write laws in accordance with the eternal and unchanging spirit of the law, but appropriate to the particular place, time, and people, and priests authority to interpret them in accordance with the eternal and unchanging spirit of the law, without too much concern for the biblical letter, or even too much concern for the letter of lawgivers.”

        • Frank Matters says:

          This isn’t the exact study I am thinking of but it will have to suffice https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2668828/

          The infidelity thing is modern like everything else. Read what Tacitus wrote on the germans

          > Adultery is extremely rare, considering the size of the population. A guilty wife is summarily punished by her husband. He cuts off her hair, strips her naked, and in the presence of kinsmen turns her out of his house and flogs her all through the village. They have in tact no mercy on a wife who prostitutes her chastity. Neither beauty, youth, nor wealth can find her another husband. No one in Germany finds vice amusing, or calls it ‘up-to-date’ to seduce and be seduced. Even better is the practice of those states in which only virgins may marry, so that a woman who has once been a bride has finished with all such hopes and aspirations. She takes one husband, just as she has one body and one life. Her thoughts must not stray beyond him or her desires survive him. And even that husband she must love not for himself, but as an embodiment of the married state. To restrict the number of children, or to kill any of those born after the heir, is considered wicked. Good morality is more effective in Germany than good laws are elsewhere.

          https://facultystaff.richmond.edu/~wstevens/history331texts/barbarians.html

          We live in fucked up and unnatural times. Expect fucked up and unnatural results.

          • notglowing says:

            > No one in Germany finds vice amusing, or calls it ‘up-to-date’ to seduce and be seduced.

            What is amusing however, is this sentence, and how it sounds like something that he could say today.
            Sadly I think it implies the Romans *did* have some trouble with adequately punishing adultery, at least in his mind, and at that time.

    • Maverick says:

      For depressiveness amongst women the answer is extremely simple and right in front of you: Birth control pills. Gaslighting across many years says that the Pill helps with depression, but the exact opposite is actually the case. Women who get off of the Pill can recover their more natural physical and mental state over a few months’ time of healing and detox. Bye bye depression, hello better attraction to men. Not as much fun for their men necessarily as who really wants to use condoms, but best for the women’s health.

      Alas such healing won’t help the 37-year-old careerist to actually be able to Ctrl+Z the arrow of time to when she was actually fertile.

    • Javier says:

      Wtf is this retarded nonsense. Depression isn’t real. Misery and suffering are the default human existence. If you don’t work to improve your life, you will feel like shit. Women do not know how to actively be happy, and are taught to depend on others for everything. Modern men are gutless weakling who are taught that bossing women around is a hate crime. So no one gets what they want and everyone is sad.

      • The Cominator says:

        “Depression isn’t real.”

        Yes it is. Melancholy was known long before the era of poz.

        “Misery and suffering are the default human existence. If you don’t work to improve your life, you will feel like shit. Women do not know how to actively be happy, and are taught to depend on others for everything. Modern men are gutless weakling who are taught that bossing women around is a hate crime. So no one gets what they want and everyone is sad.”

        All true but depression is real enough. Depression occurs among other things when you get the idea that actively working to improve things will be an exercise in futility.

    • ten says:

      Ridiculous, depression is a response to a sick life, life in a hostile cage. When in a hostile cage, do not reproduce and do not flourish, for you are not meant to live in a hostile cage. Go allahu akhbar and break free or wither. That is all there is to it, unless you are among the exceedingly rare with actual physical problems with serotonin or other signal substances, or a total wuss like Kirkegaard for whom literally every possible situation would feel equally like a hostile cage.

  26. notglowing says:

    Does Christianity support history as a continuous progression towards the eschaton, towards good, or not?

    When Nietzsche presented his idea of history as cyclical, if I remember correctly, he contrasted it with what he considered the linear Christian view of progress towards an ultimate victory of Good over Evil.

    Today, it seems we argue against the *progressive* view of history, which is anti-Christian, with a Reactionary view that views their idea of social progress as absurd, and seeks to bring society back to rules based on fundamental, unchanging principles.

    Some detractors of evolution would also argue that it supports an anti-Christian view of progress, where society and species *better* themselves, as opposed to a view where Good entirely comes from God and has existed from the start.

    So which is it? How do we reconcile these views, does society improve over time with Trial and Error, and in that case can we really say morality comes from God, if we are somehow better than our ancestors due to more trial and error? This is, considering the failure of ~500 years of progressivism as just one trial that failed, and will be corrected.

    • A2 says:

      “Does Christianity support history as a continuous progression towards the eschaton, towards good, or not?”

      I’d say it does not. If anything, the secular world will end badly so get your spiritual house in order.

    • Pooch says:

      This is a major problem for Christianity. It’s very difficult to believe that the human being as it exists now always existed.

      Ultimately, we are not going to return to traditional Christianity. We’re going to have to say yes, Christianity contributed something amazing and we are going to build off that, but we’re going to need to have a new emphasis, new priorities, new explanations, new ideas that are going to integrate the fact that evolution is true.

      • Pooch says:

        Obviously, I’m not advocating the rejection of Christianity wholesale, but Christianity frankly got it wrong on evolution and a lot of traditionalist Christians continue to get it wrong on evolution, which isn’t helpful.

        We are likely going to need an evolutionist view of religion that is more authentic to the original spirit of what Christianity was, which said we aren’t going to just put new wine in old wine sacks, we’re going to build off and reformulate Judaism. We have a new religion, it’s going to be based off Judaism, but it’s going to be something new.

        • jim says:

          Everyone got it wrong on evolution until Darwin, and afer Darwin, the Church of England had no problem focusing on the spiritual, rather than the historical, meaning, of Genesis.

          Everyone who today pushes Genesis as history is doing so to dodge its spiritual meaning, which they find shocking and disturbing.

          • Red says:

            Everyone who today pushes Genesis as history is doing so to dodge its spiritual meaning, which they find shocking and disturbing.

            I see this a lot with my Christian family. Crime think avoidance goes into overdrive when it’s pointed out what the story of the fall really means about women’s nature.

        • Red says:

          Christianity with Darwinian Characteristics.

          The idea that God’s a game designer and he uses in game mechanics to shape things makes the most sense to me. They recently found the what they think is the city of Sodom and it was completely destroyed by an air burst asteroid right around the period described in the bible. When God does something, he only does it within the system he built. The game wouldn’t be interesting otherwise.

          For example I know a lot of Christians who are passive about achieving their Telos because they believe God will provide what they need so they do nothing to improve themselves and get what they need. God gave them life with all the tools required to achieve Telos but it’s up to them to use the tools he’s provided in the best manner. God’s shows them path of righteousness that will generally result in good things happening to good people even if there are reversals along the way. Life wouldn’t be interesting for us or God if only easy good things happened.

          • The Cominator says:

            7 “days” doesn’t mean literal days. God can work to guide evolution… Darwinism is insufficient without some sort of intelligent Lamarckian mechanism.

            This is how you reconcile evolution with Christianity and Darwinian evolution with intermediate steps that have no natural selection advantages…

            • Red says:

              Darwinism is insufficient without some sort of intelligent Lamarckian mechanism.

              That Lamarckian mechanism is probably signalling from parents that result changes to gene expression based which nutrients are passed along. Food is communication that alters how genes are expressed.

          • Neofugue says:

            Afkimel is an entryist trying to converge Orthodoxy to Progressivism.

            Take the Christian shill test.

            Jesus Christ is Lord, born in Bethlehem, died at Jerusalem, and is, is from before the beginning of the world. Fully God and fully man. God is three and God is one.

            • Rux says:

              Yes, this is true to an extent. There’s still sound doctrine from a good number of contributors and plenty of push back to the likes of David Hart. I haven’t been able to write it off completely as the content remains edifying in a certain sense, personally speaking.

              The invitation is welcome to proclaim:

              I believe in one God, our Father Almighty, maker of heaven and earth and of all things visible and invisible. I believe in one Lord, Jesus Christ, the Son of God, the only begotten, of the Father before all ages, light of light, true God of true God, begotten, not made, consubstantial of the Father from whom all things are made.

              I believe in the Holy Spirit, the Lord and giver of life who proceeds from the Father, who with the Father and the Son together is worshipped and glorified and spoke through the prophets.

              Jesus Christ is Lord, born in Bethleham, died at Jerusalem and is from before the beginning of the world. Fully God and fully man. In the Holy Trinity, God is three and one. Amen.

              • Neofugue says:

                Ok, just making sure.

                I will take you at your word that not everyone at Afkimel is a Universalist. If you can subvert the globohomo theologians at Afkimel, that would be interesting.

                Be careful, Origen was condemned by two councils not only for his doctrine of apokatastasis but also his allegorizations of scripture.

        • Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

          There’s no such thing as judaism. Talmudry is an attitude more than any set of precepts.

        • Mr.P says:

          “we’re going to build off and reformulate Judaism …. it’s going to be based off Judaism.”

          Holy fuck.

          • Pooch says:

            I’m referring to the mindset of the early Christians in that sentence, not present day.

    • jim says:

      > Does Christianity support history as a continuous progression towards the eschaton, towards good, or not?

      Obviously not. The prophesied Eschaton is divine intervention from outside time. The world goes to utter ruin, and the Christians are pulled out and watch down from above. Rather the Christian narrative is one of decline.

      > How do we reconcile these views, does society improve over time with Trial and Error, and in that case can we really say morality comes from God, if we are somehow better than our ancestors due to more trial and error?

      Nature and Nature’s God tells us it is time to restore the sex and family law of the Old Testament, which is itself a late Bronze restoration of early Bronze Age sex and family law.

  27. Severian says:

    Here we go.

    “China’s top chipmaker SMIC has successfully advanced its chip manufacturing by two generations and is now exporting 7nm chips, despite US sanctions attempting to block its rise, a reverse engineering analysis from techinsights on its products has found.”

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-07-21/china-s-top-chipmaker-makes-big-tech-advances-despite-us-curbs

    • jim says:

      Compare and contrast

      We are entirely dependent on Taiwan and South Korea, and the US and Europe have thrown many billions at this problem, and repeatedly had the leading chipmakers in the US empire come here and to Europe to give us their technology, and they attempt to do so, and are strangely unable to do so. Their smarties cannot cross the IQ gap between themselves and the normies running our chip foundries.

      • Karl says:

        Are you sure the leading chipmakers wanted to give their know-how away?

        Usually know-how is a closely guarded secret. If someone is pressured to give know-how away, and he can’t openly refuse, a strange inability to give know-how away might be very welcome.

        • jim says:

          > Are you sure the leading chipmakers wanted to give their know-how away?

          Probably not, but the Imperial power told them to hand it over. They appeared to complying energetically, and still are appearing to be attempting to comply energetically.

  28. Kevin C. says:

    Relevant:

    https://twitter.com/MeidasTouch/status/1549830275227459584

    “Merrick Garland just affirmed that Trump can be prosecuted: “No person is above the law in this country. There is nothing in the principles of prosecution… which prevent us from investigating anyone who is criminally responsible for an attempt to undo a democratic election.””

  29. chris says:

    They are putting tautologies as definitions in dictionaries now.

    https://twitter.com/MattWalshBlog/status/1549382790952656899

  30. notglowing says:

    I saw an interesting conversation online between a woman and some right wing men. Which is rare.

    The woman casually mentioned that being more open, aggressive and loud mouthed (not exactly in those terms) is a trait many men like in women.
    When this was immediately questioned she replied that in her life as a young woman those are the girls she saw getting more attention from men.

    The reply was that men might fuck women like that, but they would not want to marry them. She is confusing what makes women seem easier to men, and what actually makes them likeable.

    It is completely obvious to any man that a loud mouthed woman is annoying, and it is a complaint you hear from other men all the time that bitches simply will not shut up.

    However this got me thinking about the other side of the story. Obviously a quiet, reserved woman is simply going to get less attention, because she is like that. It is pretty much cause and effect.
    In a world where marriage is the norm, she would be more greatly appreciated, and it has traditionally been the encouraged and expected female demeanour.
    Feminism has changed that, but I also think that it is simply a more valid mating strategy for women to go the other way, if marriage is not on the table, and casual encounters are the norm.
    Most men would not even try to approach a girl who isn’t very open, and especially one who is still a virgin somewhat later (ie after 20).
    Obviously, you would assume she is unapproachable and difficult.
    The same woman claimed that women with little experience or virgins seem to not receive as much attention from men either. It could be they are simply less attractive, but I think it is a matter of seeming unapproachable (or simply being unapproachable and rejecting all men).
    If a man prefers a woman because she is more experienced in bed, he clearly does not intend to keep her. It would make no sense, as otherwise he would just give her the experience himself.
    On the other hand there are always men who will simp for the ugliest, most used up whores. But interpreting that as thinking men like whores is absurd.

    • The Cominator says:

      More outgoing behavior from women does them better from men, sometimes crazy flirtatious provactive behavior does a woman better with men too (also back 10 years ago when the big problem with women was flaking i noticed that for whatever reason super crazy chicks were actually far less likely to be flakey) but bitchy “Karen” behavior (which tends to be accompanied by fanatical leftism)….

      I can’t stand it and i don’t think most men can…

    • Adam says:

      There is a space between the two. On one extreme, lots of partners, validation, attention, ego driven, dominant personality. Not wife material. The other extreme would be internally repressed, low self esteem, fearful etc. Not wife material. Both could have substance abuse problems and high notch counts. Both could be a handful for even the experienced.

      Both need the same thing, the firm hand of ownership. But in the age of DIY patriarchy, stay away from the extremes. Everything fails at it’s limits.

    • Nicodemus Rex says:

      I’ve had some experience with women who were virgins past 21. As a rule they are considerably more “feminine” and naturally attractive (sluts have dead eyes) … but also full of issues that make them hard to approach; they might be “asexual”, “lesbian”, bipolar, have “trauma” or “anxiety disorder”, or a whole host of other things.

      You can usually get by being alpha enough that her issues melt away, but that’s a high bar to clear sometimes.

      • Mike in Boston says:

        I’ve had some experience with women who were virgins past 21. As a rule they are considerably more “feminine” … but also full of issues

        Hopefully you are not implying that being a virgin past 21 leads to issues, right? The cause and effect go the other way: in today’s society where women are conditioned to be sluts, it’s the kind of girls you describe who end up virgins past 21.

        I was lucky enough in my youth to have frank conversations with men who got married in the WW2 and immediately-post WW2 years, and they told me straightforwardly that their wives (and, in most cases, they themselves) were virgins until they got married in their early 20s. These were competent, masculine guys who I can’t imagine marrying women with severe issues; easier for me to believe the wives, who were normal and well-adjusted when I knew them, were ever anything but that.

        Although as Jim points out below, to whatever extent they might not have been, marriage and kids would have straightened them out.

    • simplyconnected says:

      There are definitely fun party girls with a lot of energy that once married with children become great mothers that pour all that energy into their children. Have to distinguish those from crazy narcissistic bitchy ones. Imho the main discriminating factor is the narcissism part.

      • jim says:

        Women are what men make them.

        An alpha husband and children will cure any women. Women are hostile and insane because our society denies them their natural telos.

  31. Guy says:

    I remember a lot of talk here about the lack of testing for the homophobic telescope, and predictions that it would have issues crop up soon after being deployed. Seemingly had no issues to start, which I found either very lucky or suspicious given how quickly our tech abilities are degrading.

    https://news.sky.com/story/meteoroid-hit-has-caused-significant-uncorrectable-damage-to-james-webb-space-telescope-12655489

    Is the micrometeorite story here just cover? Obviously going to be tough to tell just from reading the article, but curious what those who are knowledgeable think.

    • notglowing says:

      There is no way to tell. The story is perfectly believable, it can randomly happen at any time. And it doesn’t appear like the damage is that significant.
      I’m not sure if this is the kind of issue that would happen due to lack of testing.

    • Red says:

      This is the sort of situation where there’s no incentive to test how many micrometeorites are flying around at L2. It would cost a lost to send a dummy probe up there to check how often it gets hit and if it turned out to be a lot, then you’d have to cancel the project which is something the people working on it didn’t want. Since such projects are run to line the pockets of people in power, best not to check.

      • Kunning Drueger says:

        Is L2 a unique position to put satellites? It’s such an “obvious” place in sci-fi that I guess I just assumed we have a familiarity with the mechanics.

        Either way, I think we’re up to 3 reported, distinct incidents of micrometeorite impacts. Even if the JWST didn’t have a bunch of issues due to incompetence in both the build and the payload (I’m long on tech decline side of NASA), the images of seem frail and exposed. I’m a Hubble fanboy, so maybe barrels and panels is just my mental standard, and I have no idea about satellite construction past popular references, but the design seemed delicate.

        • Red says:

          Is L2 a unique position to put satellites? It’s such an “obvious” place in sci-fi that I guess I just assumed we have a familiarity with the mechanics.

          We don’t have a good way to track micrometeorites beyond sending something out there to be hit. They’re just too small. The very stability of L2 is going to result in a lot of stuff flying around there there in some sort of stable orbit, they were just hoping the objects would all be small enough not make a big impact or that the area was large enough for the objects to generally miss.

          Generally the best defense against micrometeorites is that space is vast so when traveling to someplace so objects are unlikely to be hit and planets tend to pull junk down so they’re fairly safe in orbit. L2 is the opposite of that.

          I’m a Hubble fanboy, so maybe barrels and panels is just my mental standard, and I have no idea about satellite construction past popular references, but the design seemed delicate.

          Hubble was a disaster from the git go, NASA fucked it up 10 ways to hell despite suing a proven spy sat design. But because we had direct access to repair it, they did what good engineers tend to do and worked out the bugs and beefed up Hubble.

          JW will be sand blasted to bits within a few years with no way to work on it. Space really requires either disposable systems that can be quickly replaced or regular service by humans to fix things that fail.

          • Kunning Drueger says:

            The hacking of Hubble from the mess it was at launch is why I like it so much. I may be misremembering, but Hubble was put together by some diversity is our strength committee bullshit, so of course it didn’t work. A few engineers, working basically alone, developed the fixes and workarounds, turning a DOA Project into a very long lived utility that’s generated some very beautiful data.

            Stories of reclamation and restoration in the face of willful incompetence are one of my favorites. Of course, better to do things right the first time. As well, fixing a fool’s error deprives said fool of the deserved consequences.

      • Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

        In a space program ran by committee, you spend 20 years and 20 billion premodeling things to run one perfect mission. Programs where things go boink are ‘wrong’ in the quantified vision of a bureaucrat, and so this ‘wrongness’ is minimized to the greatest extent possible, and this form of bureaucratic natural selection shapes the whole of the social organism.

        Of course, the ‘one perfect mission’ approach is also very fragile, liable to not even get off the ground, will cost beaucoup bucks in any case besides, and in the end won’t give you extensive capability anyways.

        In a space program which is a freehold of an aristocrat, like SpaceX, you would send up 20 different ‘good enough’ missions over that same time period, iterating each time, lending anti-fragility to your enterprise; less vulnerability to catastrophic risk, greater capability, and a fraction of the cost.

        • Neurotoxin says:

          “In a space program which is a freehold of an aristocrat, like SpaceX, you would send up 20 different ‘good enough’ missions over that same time period, iterating each time, lending anti-fragility to your enterprise; less vulnerability to catastrophic risk, greater capability, and a fraction of the cost.”

          Our government is so hostile to us now that I actually hope they don’t figure this out and implement it. The last thing we need is for the current FedGov to be competent.

          • Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

            > Address delivered to US Naval Postgraduate School (Hyman G. Rickover) (16 March 1954)
            >
            > Some of the ideas I try to get across to the people who work for me are the following:
            > 1. More than ambition, more than ability, it is rules that limit contribution; rules are the lowest common denominator of human behavior. They are a substitute for rational thought.
            > […]
            > 10. Avoid over-coordination. We have all observed months-long delays caused by an effort to bring all activities into complete agreement with a proposed policy or procedure. While the coordinating machinery is slowly grinding away, the original purpose is often lost. The essence of the proposals is being worn down as the persons most concerned impatiently await the decision. The process has been aptly called coordinating to death.
            > 11. A system under which it takes three men to check what one is doing is not control; it is systematic strangulation.

            There once was a time where competent men ran organizations as fiefdoms in the American Empire.

            Of course those times are long since past, since after all, fucking yourself with a few degrees removed is the whole logic of doing leftism, and running the good and the great out of town is just a matter of course.

    • Cloudswrest says:

      One wonders if the “micrometeorite” that struck the mirror was one of those multitude of explosive fastening pins that were ejected during deployment and came back around after a few orbits.

  32. Cloudswrest says:

    The Zblog has an interesting essay today regarding Musk’s Twitter case and Cathedral class consciousness/morality.

    https://thezman.com/wordpress/?p=27881

    • The Cominator says:

      From the comments

      “Elon Musk is best viewed as the Howard Huges of space. He’s largely untouchable because the Department of Defencse understands that the post-Obama NASA can no longer perform it’s primary function of reliably delivering objects into space. Tesla may be the main source of Elon’s wealth, but he’s wealthy because DoD needs him. Hence all the finger wagging from the SEC against Musk, but no meaningful action.

      My read of the Twitter deal is that the DoD wants to wrestle control of Twitter from the lefties who control it now so it can manage the information landscape as we stumble into WWIII. Musk’s bid was basically a proxy for the DoD. In some ways the Twitter deal is a battle between the DoD and the State Department.”

      I did not write this guest comment (I swear) but this my view exactly.

      • Red says:

        This does make a lot sense.

      • Kunning Druegger says:

        Lol, I kinda buy that too.

      • Starman says:

        I see that in the Zman comment section, the faggot wordsmith Felix Krull is denying that SpaceX dominates the launch market (currently, 2/3d’s of the entire world’s orbital upmass this year has been launched by SpaceX’s Falcon 9). He’s calling SpaceX engineers “innumerate,” LOL.

        He blocked me on Gab when he refused to answer a Redpill on Women Question.

        • Starman says:

          Another bullshit gem from Felix Krull,

          “To those few, marooned souls out in the boonies, there are much cheaper satellite uplinks available that rely on only two geostationary satellites rather than 35,000 LEOs.”

          Unbelievable, he thinks that geostationary satellite internet providers like Viasat are cheaper than Starlink (geostationary satellite internet has data caps and high latency. Can’t do online gaming or superfast stock trades over a geostationary satellite internet. And forget about streaming videos or downloading movies and video games. The sort of stuff that Starlink can do, but Viasat cannot).

          Just more reason to put Felix and the rest of the Laptop Class in mass graves. The Cominator Solution really does look better every time I see people in this useless class open their mouths. Reminds me of that King’s Bench guy from Gab who claimed that Mars’s massive iron core turned inside out to form an absurdly thin layer of iron oxides, and claimed to be an undergrad in nuclear physics but couldn’t describe the most basic nuclear engineering concept.

          Midwits pretending to be smarter than actual smart people.

          • Globalist Power Terminated II says:

            Just more reason to put Felix and the rest of the Laptop Class in mass graves. The Cominator Solution really does look better every time I see people in this useless class open their mouths.

            😹

        • jim says:

          a big faction on the left, probably inclucing the court where his twitter case is going to be heard, has decided it is time to cancel, deplatform, and demonetize Musk.

          A likely outcome of the court case is that he is required to pay for twitter, but not get any control over it.

          And when they say that spacex engineers are innumerate, what they actually mean is that they are hired without being sufficiently well educated that they can name 57 genders of the tip of their tongue, which increasingly becoming a minimal requirement to be permitted to do engineering.

          I have for sometime been predicting that Musk is going to have to flee the country, and should have created a new, and wealthy, identity in some country on borders between empires.

          That prediction, like my prediction for Trump, may well be on made on Musk time, but Musk time comes around in due course.

          • Red says:

            The really weird thing about the collapse of normality is how much men are hiding from it. Men who defended themselves from Antifa in Portland just got the book tossed at them by the legal system and it’s barley reported on the right. They don’t want to think about it.

          • Neurotoxin says:

            “a big faction on the left, probably inclucing the court where his twitter case is going to be heard, has decided it is time to cancel, deplatform, and demonetize Musk.”

            This will reveal whether he has significant protection from some DOD faction.

            Can the DOD do anything about a civilian court case? Short of secretly sending rough men around to threaten jurors or the judge?

            • jim says:

              > Can the DOD do anything about a civilian court case?

              Normality bias. Proper channels have been dead in the water for some time. But doing something to rescue Musk or Trump would be a significant escalation of the intra governmental conflict.

              If I was in their shoes, I would say “If Musk or Trump, us next. Time for the black helicopters”, but they suffer normality bias also. They are aware that the radicals want to take out space capability because it empowers the tech priesthood, and that worries them, they want space capability, but they do not yet realize that the radicals also intend to take them out.

            • The Cominator says:

              “Can the DOD do anything about a civilian court case”

              Yes they have lots and lots of money and intel assets and they have a black budget. They can’t officially interfere but they can unofficially interfere bribes threats blackmail etc.

              They won’t though, they need to protect Musk but the DoD given the Ukraine war probably rather have one of their own guys (and Musk knows where his bread is buttered) in charge of twitter and they don’t care if he losses a few billion dollars.

              If anything the DoD will make sure he is forced to buy it, they WILL want him to have control over it though.

            • Ghost says:

              They’re very compartmentalized, the DoD. FBI and politicians are the usual interferers in court cases, so I would look there.

              That said, there are parts of DoD and contractors that will do whatever they’re told to do. So, anything is possible including black helicopters at 0’dark 30.

              Musk is providing a valuable service though and as long as he continues this, they wont touch him.

              • The Cominator says:

                He’ll be protected from prosecution (even if he say has committed securities fraud) but not necessarily from paying through the nose. They only care that he can effectively run spacex and starlink.

              • jim says:

                Some powerful people want to touch him because they do not want other powerful people to have that valuable service.

  33. Wulfgar Thundercock III says:

    Com, you have a problem. That problem is no bitches. No bitches is driving you mad, and leading you to despair. I might not be getting laid right now, but I am happier and more optimistic than you. Fucking hookers is doing worse things to your mentality than not fucking at all. I absolutely get to show shade at you for this, because it is pretty clear that your supposed success is nothing of the sort. No bitches is going to destroy you, if you let it.

    • The Cominator says:

      Wulfgar my problem is more the economy being ruined and maybe not recovering right now this would not be the case if they weren’t simeltaneously also trying to save the US dollar (oh AND starting WWIII) and doing all these things at once has made things almost impossible to navigate perhaps by design… I have to HODL but things suck right now. While HODLing not making unnecessary expenditures. If Trump were still in office I’d be in a fantastic mood and happily banging strippers at least once a week sometimes twice.

      And no I frankly do not accept virgins or near virgins without girlfriends or wives criticizing me on this.

      Also you are attacking me at the same time that some midwit with a vendetta against me launched a foolish and unprovoked attack (also contributing to rather boring interpersonal drama)

      • Red says:

        Com I’ve fucked a lot of whores. At first it was wonderful but after keeping it up for a few years it’s become sterile and empty. It’s bad for your soul. I’ll late I’ve become ashamed of it because I know it’s a self destructive behavior and self destructive behavior is wickedness. Not fucking at all isn’t good either, but substituting whores for a actively trying to find a wife is failure mode.

        You should not be telling men to go out and find a fuck stripper to fuck anymore than telling men to use porn. It’s not a healthy behavior.

        Go lift some weights, get into shape and then start working on a girlfriend. That’s what I’ve been working on for months now I’m starting to see real progress with it. If you want a good first step then get on TRT. You’ll find that acting manly and lifting heavy weights is much easier on TRT.

        • Pooch says:

          Exactly this. Being a sperg is not an excuse for not lifting weights. Even Elon looks like he has touched weight before unlike Zuckerberg and some of the other tech dorks.

          At this point it’s simply mandatory. If you aren’t lifting weights at a minimum you aren’t long for reproduction at this point in the civilizational cycle. It’s not hard. Any dumb fuck that can spare 30 bucks per month can do it.

          Lift weights 5-6 days for a year and then come back and complain about no wife no girlfriend.

          • Farmer Todd says:

            Lifting weights is empty and purposeless, a cargo cult imitation of productive activity resulting in fake physique that does not represent anything real and ceases to exist as soon as the fake activity does. The action version of steroids. Go hoe a garden, pound in some fenceposts, replace the clapboard siding on one of your sheds, pull weeds for an afternoon, cut down the three dead trees that are treatening to fall where they shouldn’t, section and split the logs and pile the slash in the brusheap, hack out the weed bushes from your fruit rows with a mattock, scrape and repaint the window sashes on the side of the house getting all the weather, and then spend a day in the hammock. You won’t have the weight-lifter photo bod but you’ll be a lot healthier than any gym rat.

            • Frank Matters says:

              I guarentee you are far less fit than a mediocre let alone committed gym goer. The word gymnasium comes from the greeks, who trained their bodies for war. Slaves, who did all the actions you propose, were not allowed to attend.

              The muscle is not just for show, are you retarded, how do you think the human body moves things? Most regulars I see do full body resistance training and carious forms of cardio. That means they are stronger than you, because those fleshy things attached to the skeleton are bigger than yours, and they can outlast you as their heart, lungs and blood vessels are adapted for a sustained effort.

              Stop justifying your own mediocrity and go do some deadlifts, if you’re lucky you will end up 1/4 as strong as Bob Peoples.

            • Adam says:

              I regularly lift things at work from 25-75 lb. (or more with help). Did it for years before I started powerlifting. After 6 months of powerlifting everything at work became a breeze.

              Nothing fake about lifting, nothing fake about the real world benefits.

              • Kunning Drueger says:

                I see lifting as a type of practice. If you only practice and never play the game, it is kind of pointless. But never practicing and just doing game after game is a ticket to systematizing bad habits, meaning there won’t be any development or refinement. Practice makes perfect, but that Perfect is only calculable if you actually play the game sometimes. I’ve done hikes with guys who are monsters in the gym but can’t go more than a couple hundred meters without losing their wind.

                A man can sit there with a thousand pucks in a bucket and refine his snap/slap/wrist shots, but if he never actually skates and works with a team, it’s a big pile of skills with no utility at all. So, from the perspective of guys who use strength and agility in their jobs, gym rats can definitely seem like a huge waste of energy and time. As well, farmers, construction workers, and other laborers can appear to be chubby blockheads with no aesthetic refinement. Both groups could probably benefit from fellowship and friendly competition on each other’s turf. This highlights the importance of cultivating and maintaining civic associations with the explicit goal of forming mannerbunds. I feel that this initiative alone could do so much more for the Right crowd than pretty much anything else.

                How do we get bros to hang out, lift weights, get actual work done together, and not get Waco’d or backdoored by Fed shills?

                • Red says:

                  How do we get bros to hang out, lift weights, get actual work done together, and not get Waco’d or backdoored by Fed shills?

                  Currently the answer is you can’t, at least not yet.

                  I’ve done hikes with guys who are monsters in the gym but can’t go more than a couple hundred meters without losing their wind.

                  Being overweight is being overweight. Having too much muscle can make you less effective in general, but better to much than too little. Working out should lead to working out a combat sport as well. The goal is to be strong and dangerous.

                • Kunning Druegger says:

                  I reject the impossibility thesis, but I don’t have a rejoinder, so my rejection is irrelevant. There has to be some formulation of activity and fellowship just waiting to be utilized. I believe this as an article of faith, not because I can back it up with facts at the moment.

                  >The goal is to be strong and dangerous.

                  This, with a vengeance. I bet the solution is staring me in the face and I’m just not seeing it. I know this isn’t the place to organize, for many reasons (most if not all good) that have been spelled out to me. But, being the midwit I am, I will trundle on in my arrogant ignorance, confident that fate or fortune will smile down on me at some point.

                • jim says:

                  I have a feeling that fate will smile down the road a bit. But tough times are coming. The Cathedral is running on the fumes of the civilization that it is destroying. Its capability to do damage is the diminishing, at the same time as it seeks and needs to do ever increasing damage.

                  In internal conflict, the police are becoming ever more of a paper tiger. Shaniqua is now running the NSA, which used to be the most powerful and effective network penetration system in the world.

                  In external conflict, observe how the Russian sanctions and now the Chinese sanctions have backfired. Turns out that printing money and lying about inflation, GDP, and techlevel does not substitute for the creation of real wealth. New York is a toilet where wealth and capital goes to be flushed down the sewers, but clever accountants record the destruction of value as the creation of value. When the Chinese have adequate home grown computers, they can put Taiwan under blockade. The US will respond by putting China under sea blockade, but China is a land power, and can survive sea blockade, and it has the capacity to blockade America from substantial parts of the high seas, which, because the US is an airsea power, will be more hurtful for the US than for China.

                  But things are likely to get a great deal worse before they get better.

                • Red says:

                  If there is a way to gather safely, the people doing it are not talking about it. I hope you can find a way.

                  On that note, my father joined a new church recently and the preacher uses Signal for communicating with his Men’s group. My general guess is Signal is probably compromised but it’s never been proven(Jim would know more than me). People are trying do organize things away from the government they know is watching them.

                • jim says:

                  Signal is open source, and its code appears to be sound, using only cryptography uncontaminated the fingers of the NSA.

                  Because it inherently leaks your phone number, the authorities know that suspicious people are talking to other suspicious people, but I have good reason to believe that they do not know what those suspicious people are discussing.

                  I am working on something with equivalent capability that only leaks your IP, which is harder to connect to your true identity because of NAT, and because it is relatively easy to get an IP under a fake identity, or absolutely no identity whatsoever.

            • Rux says:

              There’s truth and benefit to this. Looking upon the results of ones labor is satisfying and confidence boosting in ways that exceed that of what a mirror can provide. In urban and suburban environments this can be a challenge but one always volunteer in some capacity i.e painting a church or pitching in at the nearest dairy farm. There’s a hardiness to outdoor labor which a gym can’t provide. Hitting up a second floor franchise gym above a CVS in cucksville just kinda sucks.

            • yewotm8 says:

              Post physique.

            • Mike in Boston says:

              Indeed, I badly need to scrape and repaint not just the window sashes but the whole side of the house that gets all the weather, cut down the dead tree, and split the logs from the previous one.

              Moreover, I need to climb up on the barn roof, cut out the rotten plywood where the shingles have blown off, put in new plywood, reflash and reshingle. Plus pull up vines invading the blackberry patch, prune and spray the fruit trees, enlarge the anti-deer fencing, rake back the mulch from around the hemlock trees and drench the roots with imidacloprid to kill the adelgids, and probably a dozen more things I’m not thinking of.

              I’d rather be doing these six days a week rather than one, while spending five of them from 9am until nearly dark in the office, or on a business trip. But if I did, I wouldn’t be able to keep up with the payments on the place while having wifey stay home with the kids.

              So spare a thought for those of us who are happy to at least have the chance to lift some weights at the company or hotel gym.

          • jim says:

            Weights are important, and losing weight is important. Fat is a reactionary issue

            But the most important thing is the red pill. You have to truly internalize the natural, proper, divinely ordained relationship between men and women. Pick Up Artistry is the application of red pill knowledge, art, and theory, in a hostile environment of feral empowered women, which is contrary to the natural order. When applying Pick Up Artistry, be mindful that this is war.

          • The Cominator says:

            I’ve lifted some in my day but if you think Musk lifted hes not active now and im not active now.

            • jim says:

              If you are single and without a woman of your own, why are you not lifting now?

              It is because you have despaired. Never despair.

              Lifting is not the most important thing, but it is an important thing, and it is the easiest important thing. The red pill is hard for men who have been raised in the blue pill before the age of seven, and actually applying it in one’s life, like any social skill, requires effort, intelligence, and practice.

              Game is the most important thing, and game is hard. I have been practicing game most of my life, and still fail my wife’s shit tests, or handle them poorly, from time to time.

      • alf says:

        I’ll pile on a little bit. “If only the economy were good I’d be happily banging strippers all day” is on the one hand very funny, on the other hand antithetical to a central theme of this blog. Owning a woman is healthy, fucking a neverending string of whores is very unhealthy.

        It’s not like we can force you to change your lifestyle. But I am reminded of Paul, who remained a bachelor his entire life. Paul did not flaunt his bachelor life, and he did not recommend it. You are flaunting and recommending your vices.

        • The Cominator says:

          Your criticism is well taken and you are qualified to give it and you also lack petty alterior motives.

          • Wulfgar Thundercock III says:

            He is giving you the same advice I am for the same reasons. Everybody who knows the score is qualified to give it to you. You have been acting like a bitch lately, all, “woe is me, all is lost.” Well, sack up. Something that you are doing or not doing is beating you down.

            This is you acting passive aggressive and whiny.
            https://blog.reaction.la/party-politics/a-prediction-corrected/#comment-2845462

            This is the council of despair:
            https://blog.reaction.la/party-politics/a-prediction-corrected/#comment-2845473

            Something is wrong. The fight with KD just brought it to the surface. You are acting like the worst stereotypes of autists with zero social awareness and single-variable monomania. You are talking like you have given up. Cut the shit, reach low, and grab hold.

            • S says:

              He hasn’t given up yet. When you feel you are on the edge you talk about it and try to self justify. Or to put it another way, when you see the abyss the demon wants to take as many others with you as it can.

              When you give up you stop talking; it doesn’t feel like anything matters.

              • Kunning Drueger says:

                Maybe … But what about guys who are forever talking about the issue but never actually taking corrective steps?

                • S says:

                  Isn’t that just lack of motivation from low T- talk about things and mean to do them but then don’t follow through?

                • Kunning Druegger says:

                  It could be. I’m currently struggling myself. There are so many blackpills around, my wife and I keep trying to have another child, my wagecuck status is killing my spirit, and all my efforts of late to write, to organize, to workout, to develop myself as a father, leader, and friend are just crashing and burning.

                  Dark times breed dark thoughts. I need to recalibrate and reconfigure then get back on the path towards Becoming Worthy. I think Com and I, though very different people, are struggling with the same thing: Isolation. It is not enough to know there are others out there that see with the same eyes. Maybe for the ultra-brain types, but not me. I need that presence in my life. I need to be around good men with their good wives and obedient children. That absence is absolutely destroying me at the moment.

                  Ah well, enough bitching. So long as we breathe, we fight.

                • Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

                  To the brainstem, the phenomenological experience of analyzing something, vocalizing about something, and taking actions wrt something, all feel like the same sort of something.

                  Thinking about a problem feels like solving a problem; and once you’ve got all those good feels, you don’t have to bother with any of that doing stuff either. Win-win.

                • Neurotoxin says:

                  Kunning: “I’m currently struggling myself. There are so many blackpills around, my wife and I keep trying to have another child, my wagecuck status is killing my spirit, and all my efforts of late to write, to organize, to workout, to develop myself as a father, leader, and friend are just crashing and burning.”

                  Hang in there. I don’t have magic words that will automatically make everything awesome, but you’re heard.

                  Some random non-magic thoughts:

                  On writing: First get it down, then get it right. That is, first get the basic idea down in one big rush, then revise. This works for both fiction and non-fiction writing. Also, professional writers have a saying, BIC: Butt In Chair.

                  Workout: Remember to allow rest between workouts. Also, you have hockey memories to look back on, you lucky bastard. I’m only just starting.

                • Ghost says:

                  KD,

                  At this point, with so much mistrust in government, you should be able, in time, to make converts.

                  Start with having one of your neighbors over for a backyard BBQ. Have a few cold beers while the steaks are cooking to loosen up. Bring the conversation around to how things used to be in America. Then ask a few open ended questions to see what rubs them the wrong way about the present.

                  After an understanding, sell them on how we can have it once again if we only bring back family, community, faith.

                  If you fail, don’t give up. Learn and try again. You will soon have a reputation in your neighborhood as an organizer. They will come around seeking your leadership.

                  Build your circle of families.

        • jim says:

          It is unlikely that Paul was single and childless all his life. As a former pharisee, he would almost certainly have had a wife. We have reason to believe he was single at the time of the Acts of the Apostles, though one early Christian source reports otherwise.

          Digressing, he, a Jew and Pharisee, is a wonderful source of anti semitism. Among other things, he tells Christians to keep an eye on hail-fellow-Christians “of the circumcision”, for entryism. Advice that is very applicable to the present day. Judeo-Christianity is a post Christian heresy.

  34. Kunning Druegger says:

    Men without women under their command and/or no children have 0 place in leadership and decision making. They can be specialist advisors, human calculators, and other fun & weird things, but they cannot lead and they cannot decide, because they are functionally “gay men” without the perverted baggage, meaning they will not make pro-social decisions and will always lead down the path of dysgenics, even if they do it somewhat more slowly than their sodomite analogs.

    Prove me wrong. Prove to me that men who must pay for female attention and cannot maintain a position in a male in-group collective (mannerbund, friend group, Team, etc.) can adequately lead in society, organizations, or anything outside of multiplayer vidya*. I say you can’t do it; they are just going to have a few key issues that they care about that have arisen from their own personal lives, and everything else will be secondary according to them… exactly like politically empowered homosexuals or women. They will rabidly pursue these personal issues to the exclusion of all else, which is a recipe for “spiral rewarding” because subordinates will be rewarded for highly specialized modifications that help achieve “the goal” regardless of side effects, precedent decay, mission creep, bureaucracy expansion, etc.

    This is a large statement because if I’m correct, spergs just landed on the Do Not Politically Empower List, right next to Jews, Women, and Sodomites. I guess I’ll state that there may be rehab options, and pussy intervention** might be one of them. But I am pessimistic that one could be “de-sperged” after their early twenties. Honestly, probably better to corral them in silos where they are free to navigate their black & white projection over reality and benefit society through the filter of more seasoned and reasonable men.

    This shouldn’t be too surprising, and to be honest I’m surprised it hasn’t been stated explicitly. Not only is there overwhelming evidence to support it, but we already know that childless, womenless priests and bishops are hellagay. It is not isolated to that. It is a universal constant: A man with no submitted mate + offspring is not Man.

    *and they can only do this after many years of repeated play, learning from actual men how it’s done, so they build up a “mimicry catalog” and camouflage themselves as “male leaders.”

    **pussy intervention is when a bad bitch cat’s paws a man into becoming something more than he would be of his own devices. Pussy intervention can make some bureaucrat perform at King level, but it can also take a Cornpop Bad Dude and turn him into a giganigga. Pussy intervention is dangerous because you’re using a dynamic and unstable female as a catalyst for taking an inert male and making him reactive. If the female figures this out, she will begin crotch-hopping her way towards the Ultimate Alpha, and I don’t need to explain why this is a very dangerous thing, right?

    • The Cominator says:

      I was right about Covid you’re just being an asshole for some reason, you’re convinced you’re right about mortgages but you haven’t thought it through. I do not pretend to have deep insight into normie psychology.

      Spergs very very very rarely get into real power so you’re proposing solutions to a problem that doesn’t exist.

      • Kunning Druegger says:

        Com

        I didn’t intend to attack your character. I disagree with you on things, but I’ve also come around to your positions. I do think you need to do something to break out of your rut, but so do I. I’m sorry bro, I genuinely respect your analysis, though I am less than impressed with your supporting arguments. So fucking what. You don’t need my approval.

        Look man, you gotta drop the Covid thing with me, if only because I don’t begrudge you for being right in the slightest, and quite honestly never did. When you niggers shill tested me, I explained, in dangerous detail, why I left for a time, and it was not embarrassment over being wrong on Covid. I’m not saying you shouldn’t bring it up, but I am saying it is irrelevant to our protracted disagreement about the Leftist Question.

        You don’t gotta forgive me, and we can bury some hatchets in leftists some day, but I think you and I both need to man up and make some changes. Maybe we should go to church? Do you already do that? I do not, and I always make excuses for not going. But if you are willing, we could both make a commitment to going and challenge each other to stick with it. Or not.

        Whatever the case, I’m not your enemy and I’m sorry I attacked you. be easy, bro.

        • jim says:

          > You don’t gotta forgive me, and we can bury some hatchets in leftists some day, but I think you and I both need to man up and make some changes

          The Cominator should forgive you, but you need to repent of your destructive criticism. I and others have repeatedly made the same criticism of The Cominator, but our criticism was constructive and intended to help him, and he took it in that spirit. He did not take your criticism in that spirit, because it was not made in that spirit.

    • Red says:

      >This is a large statement because if I’m correct, spergs just landed on the Do Not Politically Empower List, right next to Jews, Women, and Sodomites.

      You just tossed Elon Musk into the do not empower list. You’re a moron.

      The problem with spergs is they need a patriarchy to help them get mate in return for their useful contributions to civilization. Or at least need to stop internalize low status that being heaped on smart people everywhere.

      • The Cominator says:

        He also has made two posts about “bad bitches” as if that will mean something outside of clownworld… after admitting he was generally blackpilled on women as well (which does not speak to him having a stable girl he is enthusiastic about). I shared my insight about strippers because if you are a sperg who can’t get women normally (and I’m sorry there are a lot of us in far right spaces, some of us are not honest about it)… knowing that howto does have some value. At least it will keep you from overvaluing pussy. The downside is that maybe you just never want to go back…

        There are not going to be many “bad bitches” in reactionary society anyway and an 18 year old guy (who will not be getting a ninja loan because he knocked her up) is not likely going to be spending time alone with her as she will have an arranged marriage generally to men in their mid twenties. Women are going to be a lot more subservient akin to asian women… true sluts and your crazy but spunky chicks with borderline personality disorder will perhaps have their place… but your Karens will just have their bitchy attitude beaten out of them mercilessly.

      • Javier says:

        Elon has like 17 kids though. Clearly he knows how to slay hoes.

        • The Cominator says:

          If I wasn’t worried about child support (which with 200 billion worth I wouldn’t be) I could have left my dna in a LOT of strippers.

          Also while women may not be pure gold diggers being a celebrity with 200 billion makes anyone able to slay hoes.

        • notglowing says:

          Having lots of kids is good. But he has not been able to keep his women, or control them, or all of his kids (one of them turned trans recently I think?).
          It is what it is. Better than having zero kids and no women at all but it’s also not enough to build a family on if he cannot keep any women and educate his children.

          • Red says:

            Indeed. Though it’s officially illegal to own women and children and merely unfashionable to have lots of kids. Elon’s doing better than most high profile people in the US.

            He also doesn’t have Trump’s issue of listing to women like his Daughter. Trump should have installed his sons to run the white house, not his daughter and kike boy.

      • Kunning Druegger says:

        Someone already pointed out how stupid your observation was. Would you like to attack my position from a different point, or would you prefer to bring up how Com was right on Covid and bask in that reflected light of being correct by blind luck once, seeing as that’s what passes for a rebuttal these days.

        • Red says:

          >Someone already pointed out how stupid your observation was.

          Hey bumble fuck, you’re the one demanding that spergs like Elon automatically low status. Hell one of the reason’s that Elon’s done so well is came from a place where he knew that being smart was high status. Smart people should internalize they’re high status not low, lots of women problems go away when you do that.

          You’re also busy re-enforcing progressive dogma that smart people are low status by attacking spergs. Low status behavior should be pointed out and corrected, being a sperg doesn’t make you automatically low status.

          You’re demand that married men with well behaved children be higher status but that’s already true on this board. Men like Alf and Aidan are very high status for it. While Com gets shit on for his stripper pill nonsense.

          A midwitt like yourself who’s never talked about being married with well behavior children doesn’t have all that much status when it comes to intelligent discussions. Trying to shut down such arguments by attacking other’s status just shows you’re behaving like a shithead who’s losing an argument to someone who’s smarter than you.

          • notglowing says:

            > You’re also busy re-enforcing progressive dogma that smart people are low status by attacking spergs. Low status behavior should be pointed out and corrected, being a sperg doesn’t make you automatically low status.

            Yeah, I think you describe the problem with his points. Men should have women and children, but his narrative essentially pins spergs as losers. That isn’t constructive to me. Saying that cominator should not despair and try to find a woman is constructive. But if he believes what KD said, he should probably just accept his position instead.

          • Kunning Drueger says:

            I think you are slicing at smoke and ignoring the fire. That’s fine, Com thinks I attacked *him* because of some *ulterior motives*, but in all actuality I attacked his lifestyle predicated on a tendency to make very bold assertions from a frame of authority. When pressed, details and arguments don’t follow. Instead, references to past successful corrections and cries of personal attack with nefarious undertones. I’m not going to spell out what kind of tactics those are.

            Allow me to be clear: I stand by my technical argument as stated elsewhere, and I urge you to read a bit closer, as your assertions about lifestyle and character examples is a bit off, lol. My son’s a bit shy, but when me and uncle Aidan are done with him, my boy is going to be above all dangerous to his foes and loyal to his friends, with God’s blessing and provenance should He give me such a gift.

            In good faith, I’m telling you, the exchange itself made me think of the array of types of person, and their quirks, I asserted should be barred from political power. Com may be on that list as of now, but the chips don’t get counted until you cash out. And as I’ve said from the beginning, prove me wrong and I’ll accept reproof.

            All this to say, your Elon evidence is tripe. He’s not a sperg, he’s got a bunch of kids, and a literal stable of women. If you’re going to come at the technical argument, put in a little effort. Pro tip: many of the High Holy Cathedralites are sexless non-humans with not jot of charisma or animal animation, or children. But that just further proves my point.

            • Red says:

              All this to say, your Elon evidence is tripe. He’s not a sperg

              Elon Musk opens up on how Asperger’s has impacted his life:
              https://www.axios.com/2022/04/15/elon-musk-aspergers-syndrome

              You’re midwit who doesn’t know shit. You shouldn’t be anywhere near a leadership position that determines who is low or high status because you’ll quickly define things and people you don’t understand as low status.

              but in all actuality I attacked his lifestyle predicated on a tendency to make very bold assertions from a frame of authority.

              When someone is smart enough to understand things easily they come to conclusions that people who don’t understand a subject can’t grasp. It looks like they’re spewing bullshit to you because you’re a mid-wit. This is normal, normal men don’t like being dumber than smarties because they can’t grasp what it’s like to be smart.

              There’s also the issue of what’s obvious or not. One the most common issues with smarties is a lot of stuff seems obvious to them and doesn’t bear explaining. It would take too god damn long to explain every element and you wouldn’t understand it if you explained it. It’s like explaining how to drive a stick shift to a 5 year old.

              If you have an issue with someone who’s smarter than you’s argument, ask questions about their points. They’ll generally open up about it and explain it further.

              • jim says:

                > you’ll quickly define things and people you don’t understand as low status.

                Shaniqua appointed tech lead. For a little while, tech progress continues, then it strangely stops.

                I have run into this problem with great regularity all my life, and it has recently escalated dramatically. It used to only be a problem for the top smarties, but is now hitting all smarties. Anyone above midwit is likely to be hit. Indeed, IQ 125, high midwit, are beginning to get bitten

              • Kunning Drueger says:

                I take it you aren’t going to acknowledge anything I actually said and just maintain the reddit tier paternalistic frame?

                • Red says:

                  You said that Elon wasn’t a Sperg, I proved that Elon was a self admitted sperg. You were wrong at the start, persisted in being wrong despite easy to google evidence, and now you want to ignore that your whole fucking system is built on sand. Spergs are not women or faggots.

                  The rest of you shit was typical Dumb Dumb whining about Smarties. I remember when you used to whine about Saint John posts as well.

                  Again I’ll note that status is about producing value. You haven’t produced much around here and I’ll give you credit for having one kid which is awesome, you’ve done better than I, but it sure doesn’t sound like you’re in the position of owning women and children who are well behaved. IE you don’t have the status to slam others on a status basis.

                • Kunning Druegger says:

                  Fair points, mostly, but I never said, at any point, “…and I should be the leader” or “because I am the best example.” Didn’t say it, and wouldn’t say it, because I’m not. I am an analyst and theorist at the end of it all, and not very exceptional. i have strengths and weaknesses, and I can lead men effectively if I have a Leader to guide me. i know this because I have done it, successfully and unsuccessfully.

                  OK, “sperg” is the wrong term, obviously, just based on the outpouring of dissent alone, but also because you and others have made a case. But I still think there’s something there, some kernel of value. When we look at the ranks of the Elite, particularly those working in governance (political, bureaucratic, and NGO), there is definitely a core of childless men with no alpha characteristics. THAT is who I was referencing, not Com directly. It was the exchange that made me think of it. I should have articulated that better, but i didn’t, and that’s on me.

                • Red says:

                  Com’s a smart guy who’s figured out a bunch of stuff ahead of the crowd. He’s produced real value here. I remember ragging on him over his dumb name that he picked with the idea that was securely Comey was “our guy”. I was right about that one, lol. I attacked him over covid and boy was I fucking wrong as shit about it. Getting it right once doesn’t make everything else he pushes right or correct, but he’s shown keen insights in a lot of historical things even though he’s lacking in a good understanding of what makes people tick. He’s good guy and so are you KD.

                • Red says:

                  OK, “sperg” is the wrong term, obviously, just based on the outpouring of dissent alone, but also because you and others have made a case. But I still think there’s something there, some kernel of value. When we look at the ranks of the Elite, particularly those working in governance (political, bureaucratic, and NGO), there is definitely a core of childless men with no alpha characteristics. THAT is who I was referencing, not Com directly. It was the exchange that made me think of it. I should have articulated that better, but i didn’t, and that’s on me.

                  Lots of losers looking for status in the left because they want to get laid. The Left is in power so men flock to it. If it’s any consolation, they’re probably getting push over a barrel and getting ass fucked by random faggots. They sure the fuck are not seeing any pussy. Even if they found a bitch I have it on good authority most are so low T they can’t get it up.

                • The Cominator says:

                  One reason i think the stripper pill (ie that you can actually fuck them and often for far less than you think) has some value is while it won’t get a non alpha a wife generally (except if its your regular stripper sometimes) it will cure anyone of the desire to simp in the leftist cult, or to chase cunts or fatties.

                • jim says:

                  A man’s proper telos requires owning woman and raising children, and woman’s telos requires being owned by a man and bearing children. If either one gives up on his proper telos, that one is likely to go mad, though women go mad quite quickly as their eggs expire, while men remain somewhat sane for a great deal longer.

    • Ghost says:

      Weren’t you making a case earlier about Hitler’s leadership?

      Hitler had no children and didn’t marry until the last day.

      I’m no fan of Hitler, but I would stipulate that he was able to lead.

      • Ghost says:

        KD,

        In my view, you’re presupposing single men as an imaginary straw-man in an attempt to prod Com. This seems divisive and is out of character for you.

        You’re both valuable contributors to this blog. So, I would suggest taking the matter private.

        • Kunning Drueger says:

          It is OOC, as that’s not what I was doing. Whatever factional enmity I retain towards Com is much dulled after I admitted a while back that my perspectives on our adversaries were too soft, too cowardly, too incorrect, and that though I disagree with a significant portion of his prescriptions for addressing them on technical grounds, his strategic position and spiritual arguments are sound. I was wrong about the Cominator Plan, and I was way wrong on Grasping The Nettle.

    • notglowing says:

      > Prove me wrong. Prove to me that men who must pay for female attention and cannot maintain a position in a male in-group collective (mannerbund, friend group, Team, etc.)

      These are not even mutually inclusive in any way. I am a “sperg” and yet I have a position in my (male) friend group, none of whom are spergy like I am, like any normal man would.
      I have held leading positions in software development teams with my work, and had no trouble with it.
      You are painting a distorted picture of men where you compare any childless man today with homosexuals and trannies. Which is just ridiculous, especially if the man isn’t very old.

      I do agree with Jim that a man having a good wife and well behaved children is decent proof of his character and leadership qualities, and obviously it filters out homosexuals.

      But this isn’t what you’re saying here, Cominator is right that it sounds like you’re being incredibly antagonistic towards him in particular for seemingly no good reason (I have not read all recent discussions regarding that), this comes off both in your tone and also you specifically saying “men who must pay for female attention”.
      Even though I have disagreed with him on many points in the past he does not behave like a homosexual.

      • Kunning Druegger says:

        OK, nothing about that based Armenian eunuch says “sperg.” Accountant, bodyguard, general…

        “Agathias Scholasticus of Myrina described him thus: ‘He was a man of sound mind, and clever at adapting himself to the times. He was not versed in literature nor practiced in oratory, [but] made up for it by the fertility of his wits,’ and as ‘small and of a lean habit, but stronger and more high-spirited than would have been believed.'”

        • notglowing says:

          In the later post you appear to say that any man with no women or children is a sperg. The man here is a Eunuch. What do you mean?

          • Kunning Drueger says:

            Maybe “sperg” is the issue here? What’s a better word? What do I call a man with few if any social attachments who is isolated from passive acquaintances from commoners and holds dearly to a selection of agendas or initiatives and bends all possible action, discussion, and thought towards these pet issues, and is not gay? I’m not talking about Com here, his approach to the argument jostled the idea loose from the thoughts behind my mind. I guess I might have taken his head off, so to speak, trying to hit what I was aiming at, but in this place under these circumstances that’s well within the gentlemanly expectation of tolerable collateral damage.

            This discussion itself may prove to put me square in the barrel of a kill shot to the whole idea, confirming once again that I am incorrect. I suggest you take the shot before someone else, in fact I’d be saddened if you didn’t. I respect your capacity for thought.

            • Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

              >What’s a better word?

              Revilo P. Oliver would call them mattoids. Eric Voeglin would call them gnostics. I have called them these things, and also solipsists, or congenital solipsists, and at times also spergs, too.

    • Kunning Druegger says:

      So instead of individually responding, or splitting hairs about what a sperg is, I will fucking reiterate: If you are a man with no women under control and/or no children, I do not think you are capable of leading other men and/or making societal level decisions. If anyone can show me my error in logic or reason, I’ll change my opinion.

      Yes, Com being a sperg lord led me to the stating the position explicitly, but he was merely the bathwater that spilled out, forcing me to acknowledge that minorities, gays, women, and spergs (as specifically defined herein) are all equally handicapped by their self-worship from being worthy leaders.

      Com is not doomed to being a childless guy that pays for female attention, he just chooses to be that guy. I honestly hope he corrects the issue. Can you imagine what a Jimian Monster he would be as a fucking father? Exactly the guy I’d be happy to kill and die for. But you can’t convince me, nor can he BTW, that he is in his final form, and his unwillingness to articulate his positions, to defend his strong assertions in depth, and just toss out “because I see it that way” as a defense basically proves my point. Look, I fully acknowledge that I may be wrong on mortgages, I’ve been wrong before. I don’t think I’m wrong on this one, and I’ve laid my logic on the table to be cut apart.

      There are plenty of spergs, or gays, or minorities, or women, that are wrongfully empowered in government, NGOs, and business. We have very good data, and they suck at it. This is just an extension of Jim’s teachings on Paul’s prescriptions for bishops. Is it really that groundbreaking or shocking?

      • Ghost says:

        Jesus, who was both man and God, had neither wife nor child. His doctrine has built civilizations and he continues to lead people today.

        • Wulfgar Thundercock III says:

          The exception proves the rule. If your exception is God, then the rule is pretty damned solid.

      • jim says:

        > Com is not doomed to being a childless guy that pays for female attention, he just chooses to be that guy.

        I keep nagging him to do what it takes. He is not lifting, he is not dieting, he is not studying and attempting to practice game, and he is not organizing or attempting to join a crew to go on a pick up chicks expedition.

      • notglowing says:

        > Com is not doomed to being a childless guy that pays for female attention, he just chooses to be that guy. I honestly hope he corrects the issue. Can you imagine what a Jimian Monster he would be as a fucking father?

        Calling out Cominator for being a doomer and seemingly despairing on his situation is a more valid criticism than the rest of what you posted. But from your categorization of people, if anything you make it sound like it is the opposite, and you believe he and many other men are simply doomed to remain childless and no different from homosexuals.

        That is not constructive and antagonizing. It seems to me you go back and forth from trying to argue somewhat constructively, and trying to justify some sort of sperg apartheid (as funny as the concept sounds). Either you consider some people to not have fully reached their potential, or you believe they are fundamentally inferior, and you do not consider them men at all.
        But it cannot be both ways. If you believe the latter, if anything you are justifying the behaviours of his that you do not like.

        • jim says:

          > you [Kunning Druegger] believe he and many other men are simply doomed to remain childless and no different from homosexuals.

          Everyone should recollect that he is competing with the likes of Scott Alexander. For those of us that know the red pill, the situation, though very bad, is far from hopeless.

          If The Cominator has hope, faith, and puts out the necessary considerable effort, he will do OK.

          • Frank Matters says:

            > Everyone should recollect that he is competing with the likes of Scott Alexander.

            What are you talking about. I am competing with the 1/1000 guy that maximizes his lays through all channels. I’ve met him, he’s not antisocial just amoral, hard to befriend as he gets so much attention from both normies and women. Women get run through and alpha widowed and I cannot keep their attention for more than a week or two. Is this a generation gap thing? I can imagine people who didn’t grow up with social media in early school had women that were less insane from the competition they face for that aforementioned 1/1000 guy.

            Blah blah despair, no, I am still looking for one that isn’t ran through or fat and retarded, but the numbers are not large. I’ve lived in quite a few different cultural zones now, it’s a nationwide problem. Your advice to form a gang does work, and I appreciate you delivering this strategy to the internet as I cannot do charismatic day game, but it only works for casting a wide net, and the fish are rotten in the water.

            • notglowing says:

              This is true, and it is certainly much more discouraging than Jim’s perspective. You are competing with Scott Alexander maybe in the dating game of used up women who are too old for Chad.

              For the most part, other men who are not like that simply do not matter, but Jim is right that you have an advantage in having at least a good perspective. The alternative is just being blind.

            • The Cominator says:

              Jim Alf etc re generations it was a bit easier even say 10 years ago, women 10 years ago were not disinterested in men per se the problem is they were just incredibly flakey…

              I have to believe the pre 90s era (and especially the pre Fauci Jesuit aids hysteria) was just easy beyond belief compared to today.

              • jim says:

                Yes it was easier. But that things are tough means that woman are ridiculously hungry for alpha. It is tough on everyone, male and female. You can take advantage of that. Women want bad boys, and bad boys break the law. But some of their shit tests for law breaking are impractically dangerous. You have to good at breaking laws and getting away with it, and some shit tests you just have to fail, and failing a shit test on lawbreaking is likely to result in complaint to the authorities about you breaking the law (what she is actually complaining about is your failure to break the law)

          • notglowing says:

            I do not believe it is hopeless. Despair is a sin.
            I can improve myself, have already to an extent. I am still in the first half of my 20s.
            So I have been getting my life in order.
            That said, the prospect of getting married and having children, while attractive, seems pretty difficult to realize.
            I have decided that that is an objective I have in life, and although I do not have any experience with women, I still have time.

            But even thinking many steps ahead, there are plenty of situations that would arise, which are not easy to get out of, and which could have bad consequences. Such is life, but I also wouldn’t have anyone supporting me in it.

            On the one hand, there are few women who are virgins or who haven’t slept with many men, even by the age of 20.
            On the other hand, keeping and controlling a woman is bound to be difficult when it is illegal to do so.
            I could not be controlled by her, simply because I am too proud and too stubborn to be controlled like that. My pride and stubbornness takes after my father’s.
            It is easy to say no, but it is not easy to stop a woman from doing what she wants. If she decided to leave on her own and see other people, as a revenge, I would have no way to stop her. Slapping a woman isn’t worth the risk of jail, nor is it considered legitimate for me to be upset at her doing what she wants. To say that it bothers me would be to betray jealousy. Although it is legitimate jealousy.

            I could threaten to leave her and kick her out, and it would be a legitimate threat, but ultimatums are themselves weak. No one who believes they have power would just issue ultimatums, they would just do what they want to do and have the other party suffer with the consequences. I think threatening is feminine.
            Once you have children, the situation is harder. Because you have no real recourse against her threats, and the stakes are high.
            I do not have children, so I cannot say if I could bear to lose them. But I could not imagine compromising with her and becoming some kind of simp. It seems intolerable either way. Between that and not having children in the first place, the latter seems preferable.

            My father is hardly a perfect man, and he was a leftist to begin with. However he always seemed manlier than most of the fathers I saw, and he would not have taken nonsense from anybody. He is mostly stoic, reserved and does not talk much, and doesn’t care about material things.
            If my mother cried at him about something, he would simply laugh. She didn’t always follow what he said, but she wouldn’t really think of openly defying him. If I can fault him for anything it is him only rarely taking matters into his own hands, letting family events just happen and only getting involved when it touched him, which led to my mother doing things herself without telling him, and complaining that he would leave her to her own devices in making decisions.
            Still my family stands to this day. My sister is not a whore. But she also never had a boyfriend and is depressed, unmotivated.
            I am not a faggot but I’m not an alpha chad with a girlfriend. I hope I am at least as successful as he was. My friends’ parents are all divorced and remarried. My parents never married, being leftists, but also never came close to leaving each other. They never had a significant argument between themselves that wasn’t due to us or an external issue. Nor did I ever think they could split.
            That’s despite my father being poor, and my mother’s family being much better off. She owns the house.

            • Anonymous says:

              I feel you bro. Your post hit home for me.

            • jim says:

              > Slapping a woman isn’t worth the risk of jail,

              Weakness and fear, and you know how women respond to weakness and fear.

              Act as if you were in the Israel of King Solomon. You will get away with it.

              What the divorce court will do to you is a lot worse than jail time, and if you show weakness, you are likely to wind up in divorce court.

              Do not be afraid. Be prudent but unafraid. Our enemies are less powerful and less fearsome than they like to preten, and every day they grow, though more aggressive and destructive, weaker.

            • alf says:

              As the saying goes, only when you are prepared to lose everything, you will win. This is especially true regarding women. Of course I am prepared to go to jail for slapping my woman. And that’s why I’ll never go to jail for slapping my woman.

              • jim says:

                > Of course I am prepared to go to jail for slapping my woman. And that’s why I’ll never go to jail for slapping my woman.

                Well said. You have the poets touch. I am going to steal it.

                Faint heart never won fair lady. We used to know that before the propaganda assault on the male role.

                • alf says:

                  While we’re sticking feathers in each other’s ass, I’ll have you know that whenever I’m at a party, people think I’m 20 IQ points smarter than I actually am, purely because I lift 90% of my hot takes from this place.

    • Farmer Todd says:

      >Men without women under their command and/or no children have 0 place in leadership and decision making.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_Eugene_of_Savoy

      • jim says:

        Faggots always conspire with other faggots. While a very successful military commander, Prince Eugene was making war against his own people, which is not exactly a counterexample.

  35. alf says:

    Question: what is the opinion on this Peterson versus Vox piece by Vox — https://voxday.net/2022/07/19/a-satanian-lectures-churchians/.

    To my surprise I find myself on Peterson’s side.

    No. A thousand times no! The Christian church is absolutely not there to remind people to pursue certain specific material goals.

    Is it though?

    • jim says:

      On this. Jordan Peterson has it dead right, and Vox Day has it dead wrong.

      The business of the Church is to guide the laity through a path of life that fulfills each man’s telos in a manner consistent with the Divine Logos. We are divinely commanded to pursue those goals, and in a healthy society, pursue them and achieve them in away proper to our telos and the divine will.

      • alf says:

        Yes, ok, exactly. Glad I’m not swallowing crazy pills.

        I’m starting to see the sense of Christ as the logos. Just like the restoration is about re-conmecting the past with the present, so it is about reconnecting cause and effect. Bad things tend to happen to bad people, good things happen to good people. An evil faith can preach the opposite, but it can also decouple cause and effect: ‘bad things just happen, completely arbitrarily and out of the blue!’ Nope, God, through Gnon, works with cause and effect.

        • The Cominator says:

          You’re denying that bad things happen to good people?

          • Wulfgar Thundercock III says:

            Your autism is showing. That is not what he said.

          • alf says:

            Obviously, sometimes bad things also happen to good people. But it is a recurrent theme in the bible that God rewards the good, punishes the evil.

            Take the story of Job. Lots of bad things happen to Job. Job is angry and argues that he does not deserve his unfortune, for he is a good person. And whaddyaknow – God agrees and gives him back everything he lost, twice over.

            I think much confusion stems from the fact that the line between do good, receive good is not as direct as, say, push a button, laptop turns on. Also not as direct as bad diet, color the toilet brown, although that’s getting somewhat in the right ballpark.

            The hip metaphor is to see God as a programmer. The universe is coded somewhat roughly, so sometimes good people have bad things happen to them, rather undeservedly. But God is a good coder, so most of the times, bad things to bad people, good things to good people.

            • The Cominator says:

              I look at our demon worshipping moronic psychopathic elite…

              And see this is just not so. There is no justice in this life.

              • alf says:

                You spend too much energy focusing on other people’s lives.

                I take one look at Joe Biden and his family and I am reassured that even in times of great evil, there is a sense of justice.

              • Karl says:

                In addition to the naturally occurring justice Alf mentioned, there is also all the justice you and all the people around you create.

              • skippy says:

                They suffer more than you think. They just don’t care. And isn’t that even worse?

                • The Cominator says:

                  To the extent they suffer the ones who are innately miserable people already (lets say Hillary Clinton) remain miserable.

                  On the other end of the spectrum take Bill Clinton (yes hes also less evil than she is IMHO) I don’t think that guy has been unhappy for a day in his life.

                • Neurotoxin says:

                  “take Bill Clinton… don’t think that guy has been unhappy for a day in his life.”

                  During his Presidency, Reason magazine (before it was cucked) ran a piece on him. One pattern that emerged was that Clinton took hours to get going every morning, because his mood was absolutely foul.

                  Are there truly evil people who are genuinely happy? I don’t know, but in general they associate with other evil people and are forced to look over their shoulders constantly.

                  One more item: A biologist named Robert Sapolsky did a study of the stress hormones in alpha male gorillas or chimpanzees or whatever. These are animal alphas, so they meet the crude stereotype of “alpha” that’s in liberal weenies’ heads: Violent, maintaining their dominant position through fear. Of all the male gorillas, the alpha had the highest level of stress hormones, to the point where it was bad for his health in the long run.

                • jim says:

                  I think I am pretty alpha, and my stress level is mighty low. The liberal model of alpha is the female model of alpha, which is a hundred millennia out of date. Evil alphas, and liberal alphas are always evil, are highly stressed.

                • Neurotoxin says:

                  “Evil alphas, and liberal alphas are always evil, are highly stressed.”

                  Exactly. Another good example of this is the Michael Franzese video that someone posted here a year or two ago: Out of the 50 most powerful mob bosses in the 1980s, 30 years later 49 were dead.

              • Frank Matters says:

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                22 My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? why art thou so far from helping me, and from the words of my roaring?

                2 O my God, I cry in the day time, but thou hearest not; and in the night season, and am not silent.

                3 But thou art holy, O thou that inhabitest the praises of Israel.

                4 Our fathers trusted in thee: they trusted, and thou didst deliver them.

                5 They cried unto thee, and were delivered: they trusted in thee, and were not confounded.

                6 But I am a worm, and no man; a reproach of men, and despised of the people.

                7 All they that see me laugh me to scorn: they shoot out the lip, they shake the head, saying,

                8 He trusted on the Lord that he would deliver him: let him deliver him, seeing he delighted in him.

                9 But thou art he that took me out of the womb: thou didst make me hope when I was upon my mother’s breasts.

                10 I was cast upon thee from the womb: thou art my God from my mother’s belly.

                11 Be not far from me; for trouble is near; for there is none to help.

                12 Many bulls have compassed me: strong bulls of Bashan have beset me round.

                13 They gaped upon me with their mouths, as a ravening and a roaring lion.

                14 I am poured out like water, and all my bones are out of joint: my heart is like wax; it is melted in the midst of my bowels.

                15 My strength is dried up like a potsherd; and my tongue cleaveth to my jaws; and thou hast brought me into the dust of death.

                16 For dogs have compassed me: the assembly of the wicked have inclosed me: they pierced my hands and my feet.

                17 I may tell all my bones: they look and stare upon me.

                18 They part my garments among them, and cast lots upon my vesture.

                19 But be not thou far from me, O Lord: O my strength, haste thee to help me.

                20 Deliver my soul from the sword; my darling from the power of the dog.

                21 Save me from the lion’s mouth: for thou hast heard me from the horns of the unicorns.

                22 I will declare thy name unto my brethren: in the midst of the congregation will I praise thee.

                23 Ye that fear the Lord, praise him; all ye the seed of Jacob, glorify him; and fear him, all ye the seed of Israel.

                24 For he hath not despised nor abhorred the affliction of the afflicted; neither hath he hid his face from him; but when he cried unto him, he heard.

                25 My praise shall be of thee in the great congregation: I will pay my vows before them that fear him.

                26 The meek shall eat and be satisfied: they shall praise the Lord that seek him: your heart shall live for ever.

                27 All the ends of the world shall remember and turn unto the Lord: and all the kindreds of the nations shall worship before thee.

                28 For the kingdom is the Lord’s: and he is the governor among the nations.

                29 All they that be fat upon earth shall eat and worship: all they that go down to the dust shall bow before him: and none can keep alive his own soul.

                30 A seed shall serve him; it shall be accounted to the Lord for a generation.

                31 They shall come, and shall declare his righteousness unto a people that shall be born, that he hath done this.

            • Wrongthink Criminal says:

              I wouldn’t expect this comment from a professed atheist (or at the very least not a firm believer) who left the blog after an argument with Jim about how Christianity just couldn’t cut it, that it’s modern times, people aren’t medieval peasants anymore and this religion stuff doesn’t work anymore and doesn’t convince anyone [*deleted for false consensus*]

              • jim says:

                You are projecting onto Alf the Cathedral position that the faith of the left is not religion. This might be an error, poor phrasing, misunderstanding of Alf, or a shill entryist attack by false consensus.

                I have saved your comment, and will allow it through, if you pass the shill test by committing some wrongthink crimes. But I kind of suspect that someone who announces himself the be a wrongthink criminal will be strangely reluctant to engage in wrongthink. Observed behavior of reactionaries is that they do not say “Hail fellow peasant, I am a fellow peasant, fellow peasant, we fellow peasants need to stick together.”

                The Marxist “History” is thinly warmed over version of the Jewish God, with the Vanguard of Proletariat as the Jews. The left’s “arc of history” that created all men equal similarly, but these days they have moved on to worship of a multitude of demons.

                • Wrongthink Criminal says:

                  [deleted for the curious absence of wrongthink crimes]

                • jim says:

                  You named yourself “wrongthink criminal”. OK, commit some wrongthink crimes. Get creative.

                  You have issued a great many screenfulls of text without, however, saying anything that would get one in trouble if human resources department of the fbi or an ngo is looking over ones shoulder while one types on a computer issued by their IT department.

                  Compose your own shill test, and pass it.

                • FrankNorman says:

                  And our Wrongthink Criminal just went quiet…

                • alf says:

                  And our Wrongthink Criminal just went quiet…

                  Happens very often. Remember the guy who just last week was posting walls of text on marxist economics? He got called out, disappeared in a puff of smoke. Like those Indian phone scammers who hang up the moment they are found out.

                  In that sense you gotta admire a persistent shill like AF.

        • Wulfgar Thundercock III says:

          It is gnostic madness masquerading as holiness. Abandoning the world to Satan and hiding in the churches is not a winning plan.

          • jim says:

            Not to mention that our enemies are burning down the Churches, and in the Ukraine, slaughtering Old Type Christians

            Martyrdom worked great against the state religion of Rome, because it was a zombie walking. Our state religion is live, and martyrdom will just get us slaughtered.

            • Karl says:

              What killed the state religion of Rome?

              They had no Stalin mass killing adherents of the state religion. Roman state religion was a zombie when Caesar crossed the Rubicon.

              • jim says:

                The original Aryan religion was ancestor worship, plus the one god. Read “the ancient city”, which is not so much about the city, as the faith.

                When strict patriarchy died, the old gods died not long after.

                • Karl says:

                  Sure, but what killed patriarchy?

                  Maybe immigration of foreigners so that people no longer traced their line to the ancestor god or maybe just time?

                  In each case, it looks like the roman state religion died without being killed by a Stalin and without entering a leftist singularity. Makes me wonder whether the present state religion could die without being killed.

                  Anyway, that does seem relevant. The sate religion is not dying. We are going into the leftist singularity hoping for a Stalin or a live religion that gives us a chance in a holy war

                • Red says:

                  In each case, it looks like the roman state religion died without being killed by a Stalin and without entering a leftist singularity. Makes me wonder whether the present state religion could die without being killed.

                  Demon worship is strongly cohesive. Very self destructive but the shared sacrifice of humans tends to bind men together. I can’t think of any cases where it wasn’t destroyed by external foes.

                • Neurotoxin says:

                  Karl: “The s[t]ate religion is not dying.”

                  I disagree. It is becoming ever more intrusive and omnipresent, but it’s also becoming so outrageous that it can only be maintained by the threat of antifa coming to your house and beating you. Even as recently as 10 years ago that wasn’t the case. I don’t think that 10 years ago I’d even heard of antifa.

                  The state religion is rapidly dying inside people’s heads. It’s maintained by censorship, propaganda, electoral fraud, and the threat of physical violence.

                  It’s like one of those trees that dies of disease but still looks healthy from the outside. Then someone leans against it and it falls over. Our state religion is not quite that frail yet (we should be so lucky) but it’s getting there.

                • Neurotoxin says:

                  Red: “Demon worship is strongly cohesive.”

                  Yes and no.

                  The left always acts as one big blob. Even back in the 1960s, James Burnham (in Suicide of the West) observed with astonishment the tendency of the leftist school of fish to change direction absolutely in synch with nary a deviation.

                  On the other hand, leftists are constantly at each other’s throats, especially when they don’t have a common threat like Trump to unify them. Look at the way that feminists and the tranny left hate on each other. Cancel culture is not just hitting non-leftists any more.

                  Going back further in time, check out Russian commies, before and after the Soviet Revolution succeeded, the history of the French Revolution, etc.

              • Pooch says:

                What killed the state religion of Rome?

                Same thing that killed Christianity.

                When the Roman economy transitioned to a mass slave economy, there was no longer an incentive for the elite to promote traditional pro-family religion to increase the native population.

                Likewise as our economy transitions to a post-industrial slave economy there is no longer incentive for the elite to promote traditional pro-family religion to increase the native population.

                • Karl says:

                  Nah, Christianity holiness spiraled into the present state religion. Morphing one living religion into another living religion is very different from dying.

                • Pooch says:

                  When the elite have incentive to increase the native birth rate they will defend a pro-family state religion against holiness spirals, such as Catharism, as early form of feminism and holiness spiral against Christianity that was violently suppressed by the powers that be.

                  When the elite have no incentive to defend a pro-family state religion to increase the birth rate, they won’t.

      • Cloudswrest says:

        Vox Day always seems pretty Gnostic to me. He repeatedly uses the phrase “Prince of this world” to refer to Satan. If it is anything, “this world” is the cradle of souls, where new beings are born, tested and judged. In this specific essay he is equating family formation and procreation with materialism!! WTF!! Only a Gnostic would make this claim. Why not just cut off your balls and praise Jesus!

        It’s not a war against masculinity or young men; the assault on young women has been even more serious and devastating, as many young men can readily attest.

        False dichotomy here!

        • Neofugue says:

          Vox is an Arian, thus would not pass the Christian shill test. Nor is he honest enough to publicly admit himself as one.

          He is certainly not the “ultra-high IQ” individual he claims to be. He fell for the Q meme and doubled down on it long after the election.

          He was great around 2016 but went off the deep end a few years ago. I rarely visit his blog anymore, and am embarrassed to admit having followed him regularly for years.

  36. Redbible says:

    So I have run into an interesting situation with a woman I’ve seen a few times. In simple terms, whenever I touch her physically, she just doesn’t show any responsiveness. Touching her arm, playing with her hair, touching her face, all of it doesn’t get her to show any visible reactions at all. The only things I’ve been able to come up with to maybe explain it is Autism, mind-altering Medications, or that she is pretty much disconnected from her body. It’s kind of off putting.

    Also on the topic of women, one of my friend’s sisters has started a habit of the first time she see me on a given day, of either calling me “gross”, or saying “eww” (directed at me). Based on what I know, women don’t tend make a big fuss over a man unprompted, unless they are wanting his attention. Based on the fact that she was warmer to me several months ago, and that she doesn’t actively avoid me when I’m doing stuff with her brother, I’m inclined to believe that this is an attention seeking shit test. Which i am not sure how to best pass such a shit test at this time, since the last time I saw her, after a took a step toward her to maybe do something to her, she bolted to the bathroom, so she could hide from me and/or so that I couldn’t do anything to her.

    Any input or advice about either of these situations would be appreciated.

    • jim says:

      No reaction at all generally indicates that a part of her is deciding how to react, and is observing to obtain more data. Paying attention to how she reacts is a beta tell. Could be she is fishing for beta tells.

      Attention seeking followed by flight when attention is obtained is absolutely standard female behavior. The intent is that you chase after her. Unsuccessful chase is beta. If you pass as alpha, the flight, however, will not be such that you are unable to catch her. Treat her as your bratty little sister, thus passing as alpha, and sooner or later she will forcefully impose herself on your attention, and then flee, in a manner unlikely to succeed against decisive and determined chase.

      But the pattern of attention seeking followed by flight is intended to elicit bad boy behavior. You are going to have to do something unambiguously illegal, immoral according to official blue pill morality, and that everyone properly educated in our whore schools is required to subject to severe social disapproval. And if you chicken out part of the way through due to her strenuous indignation and strangely ineffectual resistance, she is likely to make a complaint against you. The complaint being another test.

      • Redbible says:

        What you say about paying attention to her reaction is a beta tell makes lots of sense. It gives me a good idea as to how to correct what I’m doing.

        As far as the “bad boy” behavior she is trying to elicit goes, does it need to be BOTH illegal AND immoral according to official blue pill morality, or can it be just 1 of the 2? Admittedly, most things I can think of are both, so perhaps I am over thinking it.

        Now, forcing her to have sex would qualify as crossing that line, but I don’t think my relationship with her has reached that level quite yet. Then again, something like “touching her where ever I damn well please” is just one step away from sex, and would at that point be better to go the whole way. (since it would seem like chickening out to not do so.)

        I’ve now thought of a interesting hypothetical. If one was dealing with an underage girl, then technically even kissing would be crossing the line. Still, one would have to continue escalating to sex eventually, or one would be seen as chickening out.

        • Adam says:

          Your thinking about it too much. Do whatever you want with her. If you want to have sex with her, you are the predator and she is the prey.

          Women are often bad at game, as men often are. Clumsy, nervous, flighty etc. Your confidence will be what calms her. If you are not confident, and are bad at game yourself, her anxiety will intensify as will her attempts to escape.

      • FrankNorman says:

        Jim, I have a question here.
        Assume a scenario in which a woman is unambiguously sending these sort of “chase me pleez” signals, but the man, for whatever reason, is simply not interested in her.
        What is the best way for him to make her go away?

        • jim says:

          Same as the best way to make her follow you around – the difference being too subtle to explain in words.

          Treat her like your bratty little sister.

    • Ghost says:

      The one calling you names definitely has the hots for you.

      If it was me, I would just pull her close face to face. Then give her a look like you’re in control of her.

    • Aidan says:

      Making a move on a woman like touching her, when you can’t or won’t isolate her for sex, comes off in her mind like hesitation, like a lack of the status needed to pull her into a room and bang her, no matter how rational the reasons for not doing so. If you just keep touching, the signal you are sending is that you are scared to fuck her.

    • Neurotoxin says:

      I’d drop the one who’s not reacting. Not reacting one way or the other is weird.

      The bratty little sister is definitely interested in you. In general, your friends’ younger sisters and your younger sister’s friends are a gold mine, based on my experience when I was younger.

      My perspective on all this is less that you need to do something illegal, immoral, or fattening, and more that you need to worry about logistics. How are you going to fool around with her when you’re at your buddy’s house with him, to hang out with him? One invariant over my life is that to get physical you need to separate with the girl.

      • yewotm8 says:

        Younger sister’s friends seem to find a way into your bed at night during sleepovers, I don’t see why the same wouldn’t apply to a friend’s younger sister if one was to crash at his place.

        • Redbible says:

          I’ve been on a “business trip” for the last week or so, and only recently got caught up on all the replies.

          What yewotm8 seems to be suggesting is that a “sleep over” of sorts is a good way to maybe get her to “make a move”, whereas Jim suggests to chase her once she provokes for a chase, and then “be a bad boy” by doing something like pushing towards sex, in an unrelenting fashion.

          Admittedly, I don’t know how confident I feel that her “bratty attitude” will “melt away” by unrelenting pushing. Then again, maybe I’m reading to much PUA material that sometimes focuses on “Consent”.

          • yewotm8 says:

            I am not suggesting that you don’t need to push towards sex in an unrelenting fashion when the time comes. A woman finding herself alone with a man does not preclude that. But if you need isolation, particularly isolation without anybody else knowing, then she may need to be the one who sets that up.

            Speaking of no one else knowing, what does your friend think of this? If you have his blessing, then that part is irrelevant.

  37. Kunning Druegger says:

    Jim, I made a large info roundup post that went into moderation for some reason. Please let me know if there’s something I did that made the comment inappropriate or unworthy of posting so I don’t make the same mistake going forward.

    • jim says:

      Posts with large numbers of links automatically go into moderation until I can review them, because they tend to be enemy action. Random spammers selling viagra, and enemy entryists who want their people to pass as reactionaries, like to insert links to their own people to create the appearance of grass roots enthusiasm. The troofers were particularly obnoxious in doing this, because they are trying to project the image of widespread troofism on the right. (Though it has been while since I have seen troofers busy)

      The limit was ten, but because of your post, I just reset it to twenty.

  38. Kunning Drueger says:

    Here is a sloppy news round up from approximately mid-June. This is a diverse selection, and may or may not be related to each other.

    15 June 2022
    “Today, the U.S. Department of the Treasury’s Office of Foreign Assets Control (OFAC) is designating two key supporters of the ethnically motivated violent extremist group known as the Russian Imperial Movement (RIM) pursuant to Executive Order (E.O.) 13224, as amended. RIM was previously designated by the U.S. Department of State as a Specially Designated Global Terrorist (SDGT) organization on April 7, 2020 for having provided training for acts of terrorism. Concurrent with OFAC’s action today, the U.S. Department of State also designated an individual for posing a significant risk of committing acts of terrorism.”

    https://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/library/news/russia/2022/06/russia-220615-treasury01.htm

    17 June 2022
    “The Congolese government has moved to sever ties with Rwanda as relations continue to deteriorate, accusing Kigali of controlling Tutsi rebels in Congo’s North Kivu Province. President of the Democratic Republic of the Congo (DR Congo) Felix Tshisekedi convened the country’s Supreme Defense Council on Wednesday, following the capture of the town of Bunagana, on the border with Uganda, by forces from the M23 militia. Speaking late that day, Congolese Minister of Communication Patrick Muyaya said the council ‘has taken the following measures: first, it demands that Rwanda immediately withdraw its troops, operating under the cover of the terrorist M23 group, from Congolese territory; secondly. [It] requests that the Government of the Democratic Republic of Congo suspends all protocols of agreements, accords and conventions concluded with Rwanda.’ Among those deals that would be suspended is one from June 2021 allowing the Congolese state-owned mining company Sakima SA and Rwandan firm Dither, Ltd. to mine and refine goal and coltan in the eastern Congo ‘in order to deprive the armed groups of the revenue from this sector,’ according to Kenya’s The Nation daily. It also includes an agreement of combating tax evasion and double taxation and another promoting safe investment, and comes after Kinshasa banned Rwanda’s flag carrier airline RwandAir from landing in its territory earlier this month. […] ‘Rwanda does not like us. We are not afraid of it and we will fight it,’ Congolese Gen. Sylvain Ekenge, spokesman for the military governor of North Kivu province, said on Tuesday, following M23’s seizure of Bunagana. ‘If it wants war, it will have war,’ he said of Rwanda, adding, ‘No one will occupy a single centimeter of our territory.’ ”

    https://www.globalsecurity.org/military/library/news/2022/06/mil-220617-sputnik01.htm

    19 June 2022
    “NATO’s secretary-general has warned that the war in Ukraine could go on for years and urged the supply of state-of-the-art weapons to Kyiv even if “costs are high,” as Ukraine’s allies sought to preempt any international “fatigue” nearly four months into Russia’s unprovoked invasion.”

    https://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/library/news/ukraine/2022/06/ukraine-220619-rferl03.htm

    19 June 2022
    “Britain’s new top army general says Russia’s invasion of Ukraine has changed the outlook for Britain’s military, which must be capable of fighting alongside allies and ready to defeat Russia on the battlefield. General Patrick Sanders said in a message to troops that the scale of the Russian threat ‘shows we’ve entered a new era of insecurity.’ The general’s statement was part of an address to all ranks and civil servants in an internal message on June 16, three days after he took command of the British Army. Reports in British media on June 19 quoted the message extensively.”

    https://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/library/news/uk/2022/uk-220619-rferl01.htm

    19 June 2022
    “China carried out a land-based, mid-course antiballistic missile (ABM) technical test on Sunday, with analysts saying the successful interception proved the reliability of the country’s antiballistic missile umbrella at a time when technologies on both ballistic missiles and antiballistic missile interceptors are improving. […] The latest test brings the tally of publicly announced Chinese land-based ABM technical tests to six. According to media reports and official statements, other known ABM tests were carried out by China in 2010, 2013, 2014, 2018 and 2021. It was not revealed in which interception phase the test in 2014 was carried out, while all other five were carried out in the mid-course phase.”

    https://www.globalsecurity.org/space/library/news/2022/space-220619-globaltimes01.htm

    28 June 2022
    “The Army announced today the award of a $1.14 billion contract to General Dynamics Land Systems, Sterling Heights, Michigan, for the production and fielding of up to 96 Mobile Protected Firepower vehicles. The award comes just days after the Army closed out the MPF middle-tier-acquisition rapid-prototyping phase and transitioned to a major capability acquisition program with a favorable Milestone C decision – an incremental step in the Department of Defense’s acquisition process that moves into the production and deployment phase. MPF will provide infantry brigades greater survivability, the ability to identify threat systems earlier and at greater distances, and will not restrict movement in off-road terrain. MPF will also allow Soldiers to move at a faster pace, protecting the assaulting force.”

    https://www.globalsecurity.org/military/library/news/2022/06/mil-220628-army01.htm

    29 June 2022
    “NATO heads of state and government meeting in Madrid on Wednesday approved a new Strategic Concept for the alliance, naming ‘Russia’s aggression,’ ‘systemic challenges posed by the People’s Republic of China’ and the ‘deepening strategic partnership’ between the two countries as its main priorities. In this document, the Western military alliance that was formed after the Second World War defined Russia as the ‘most significant and direct threat’ and for the first time addressed challenges that Beijing poses toward NATO’s security, interests and values.”

    https://www.globalsecurity.org/military/library/news/2022/06/mil-220629-voa04.htm

    04 July 2022
    “The office of Uzbekistan’s prosecutor general said on July 4 that 18 people were killed during unrest in the Central Asian nation’s restive autonomous republic of Karakalpakstan that broke out last week over plans to curtail its autonomy. Security forces detained 516 people while dispersing the protesters last week but have now released many of them, the national guard press office told a briefing. Protests broke out in the regional capital, Nukus, and other cities after changes initiated by President Shavkat Mirziyoev were proposed on June 27 to the Uzbek constitution, including removal of language that guaranteed the right of Karakalpakstan to seek independence should citizens choose so in a referendum. But during a visit to Karakalpakstan on July 2, Mirziyoev backed off the plans and said the language would not be removed from the constitution.”

    https://www.globalsecurity.org/military/library/news/2022/07/mil-220704-rferl05.htm

    13 July 2022
    “Ukraine’s military said it launched a major counteroffensive in the south of the country on July 12 as it seeks to recapture territory taken earlier by Russian troops. Ukrainian military strikes destroyed artillery, armored vehicles, and an ammunitions warehouse in the town of Nova Kakhovka, the Ukrainian military said at the start of its counteroffensive against Russian troops occupying parts of the Kherson region. ‘Based on the results of our rocket and artillery units, the enemy lost 52 [soldiers], an Msta-B howitzer, a mortar, and seven armored and other vehicles, as well as an ammunition depot in Nova Kakhovka,’ Ukraine’s southern military command said in [the] statement. However, Russia’s state-run TASS news agency reported that the target was a mineral fertilizer storage site that exploded and that a market, hospital, and nearby homes were damaged. Some ingredients in fertilizer can be used for ammunition. Volodymyr Leontyev, head of the Kherson region’s Kremlin-installed civil-military administration, called it a ‘terrorist act’ and said seven civilians were killed and another 80 injured. As with other incidents during the war, battlefield claims on either side could not immediately be independently verified. Moscow said later that a U.S.-supplied high-mobility artillery rocket system (HIMARS) was used in the attack on Nova Kakhovka, which is about 55 kilometers east of the key Black Sea port city of Kherson.”

    https://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/library/news/ukraine/2022/07/ukraine-220713-rferl01.htm

    18 July 2022
    “History shows that the meaningful inclusion of women in peace and security processes leads to more successful peace agreements, promotes stability, and strengthens U.S. national security. Through the implementation of the Women, Peace, and Security (WPS) Act of 2017 and ongoing support for UN Security Council Resolution 1325, the United States continues to advance the full, equal, and meaningful participation of women, in all their diversity, across diplomatic and foreign policy engagements. This means supporting women’s meaningful participation; advancing the protection of women and girls; scaling internal capacities to implement our WPS Strategy; and expanding partnerships with like-minded organizations and governments.” [Press Statement – Antony J. Blinken, Secretary of State]

    https://www.globalsecurity.org/military/library/news/2022/07/mil-220718-state01.htm

    18 July 2022
    “The Space Development Agency (SDA) today announced the award of two prototype agreements with a total potential value over $1.3 billion for the establishment of the Tranche 1 (T1) Tracking Layer, providing the initial missile warning/missile tracking warfighting capability of the National Defense Space Architecture (NDSA). These satellites will begin to launch in April 2025. The agreements are awarded to teams led by L3Harris Technologies, Inc. of Melbourne, Fla. and Northrop Grumman Strategic Space Systems of Redondo Beach, Calif. to each build a space segment consisting of two planes with seven space vehicles per plane – 14 satellites from each performer for a total of 28 satellites in four planes – to collect infrared data and provide network communications. Each agreement includes a launch services segment for launch preparation, and a ground segment for operations and sustainment. These prototypes will provide global and persistent indications, detection, warning, tracking, and identification of conventional and advanced missile threats, including hypersonic missile systems.”

    https://www.globalsecurity.org/space/library/news/2022/space-220718-dod01.htm

    I’ve been using Zeihan’s (near constant) communiques as a sort of data point for where the “smart guys” in the Cathedral are standing, which way they’re leaning, and where they are headed. His ego will never allow him to admit actual mistakes (like: conflating immigration and enclave expansion as holistic demography, coronatarianism being a farce, demotist politics as relevant, etc), but his pseudo-outsider status allows him to adopt the aura of humility, which gives him breathing room in predictions and enhances his image as well reasoned or wise. He has begun to quietly transmit the message shift from “sanctions are holy and wholly good” to “sanctions are an essential sacrifice for rules based order of the LWO” to “sanctions are possibly going to bounce back on ‘us’ (meaning our vassals and minions)”. Subjective analytical observation, so take with salt: I think Zeihan, among other sources, is going to be a key indicator if/when elite defections start to significantly increase or the Cathedral somehow figures out they are going to increase and attempts to subvert the trend.

    BREAKING NEWS: https://www.msn.com/en-us/weather/topstories/boulder-city-fire-responding-to-hoover-dam-after-explosion-reported/ar-AAZKVpR

    • Kunning Druegger says:

      “But the biggest and main problem causing Sri Lanka’s fall was its ban on chemical fertilizers in April 2021. Many other developing nations had to deal with similar challenges, including covid and high foreign debt, but have not collapsed. Indonesia has suffered terrorist bombings, which harmed tourism, but managed to rebound, and tourism rebounded in Sri Lanka starting last year. And while economic growth declined after 2012 but from astronomical peaks of 8% and 9% and remained above 3% and 4% until 2020. The numbers are shocking. One-third of Sri Lanka’s farm lands were dormant in 2021 due to the fertilizer ban. Over 90% of Sri Lanka’s farmers had used chemical fertilizers before they were banned. After they were banned, an astonishing 85% experienced crop losses. The numbers are shocking. After the fertilizer ban, rice production fell 20% and prices skyrocketed 50 percent in just six months. Sri Lanka had to import $450 million worth of rice despite having been self-sufficient in the grain just months earlier. The price of carrots and tomatoes rose five-fold. While there are just 2 million farmers in Sri Lanka, 15 million of the country’s 22 million people are directly or indirectly dependent on farming.”

      https://michaelshellenberger.substack.com/p/green-dogma-behind-fall-of-sri-lanka

      “Through the 1950s, as the country recovered from the Korean War, forestry was folded into the Stalinist mode of autarkic development that Kim called Juche. This is how he described it in 1955: ‘We are not engaged in any other country’s revolution, but precisely in the Korean revolution.’ Forestry, like all aspects of the economy, had to be turned to a totalizing project of self-reliance. Kim laid out his ‘great project for transforming nature’ in a 1961 speech, ‘On Planting Orchards Through an All-People Movement.’ The first goal was to reduce the pressure on the limited amount of arable land. Too many people relied on subsistence agriculture for their calories. The solution was three-fold: taking people off the land through urbanization and industrialization, concentrating those who remained on collective farms, and making agriculture more efficient through irrigation, fertilization, and mechanization. Making limited arable land more productive was a hedge against farmers reclaiming hillsides—cutting down the trees to grow grain or sweet potatoes. Even though only 20 percent of arable land was flat, Kim argued that it was better, in the long run, to protect existing farmland from erosion than attempt to terrace steep hillsides. Central authorities formed a Forestry Administration to replace the colonial organ. Any timber taken from the national forests, Kim ordered, had to be done at the direction of the Forestry Administration and then replanted.”

      https://palladiummag.com/2022/06/15/environmentalism-in-one-country/

      “Kiewit is one of the largest construction firms in the world, and has made its reputation by building some of the biggest and most complex projects in modern U.S. history. Founded by two immigrant bricklayer brothers, its leadership passed down to one of the founder’s sons, Peter Kiewit, who grew up on its construction sites. Peter turned a small family business on the edge of ruin after the Great Depression into a construction superfirm. After completing $500 million in projects for the U.S. military over the course of the Second World War, often on seemingly impossible schedules, Kiewit was transformed by the long boom that followed the war. It built everything from large portions of the Interstate Highway system, massive classified military infrastructure, nuclear power plants, to Major League Baseball stadiums. Today Kiewit is led by around 2,500 people who have been selected to join the ranks of the company’s employee-owners. To achieve this status requires working brutal hours for years and demonstrating exceptional commitment and competence. It has also led to the company being run somewhat like a cult. The founding myth of that cult is that it can deliver any project no matter the obstacles. But it has had multiple megaprojects end in disaster in the years following the financial crises. A company that built its identity around delivering the toughest projects is now regularly failing to do so, with recent Kiewit endeavors like Sepulveda showing us why America can’t build anymore. Construction projects are undertaken within a legal and regulatory system that presents persistent, costly obstacles, while projects are being overseen by agencies who lack the resources and in some cases even the expertise to manage them.”

      https://palladiummag.com/2022/06/09/why-america-cant-build/

      “If beginning from lowly occupations, China’s elites have far higher chances of advancing. For those whose parents worked in agricultural jobs, the children of pre-revolutionary elites have a 33% higher chance of advancing to a non-agricultural job. And even the long-dead Keju continued to shape Deng’s China: in 2010, those living in an area with double the density of jinshi had, on average, 8.7% more years of schooling. For those who had grandparents among China’s landowning elites, the number was 11% more than non-elite peers. China’s elites were making their comeback without any inherited material advantage. Mao had managed to shut down channels of persistence related to inheriting wealth and institutional power. But he could not stamp out the transmission of educational mores, culture within the household, or genetically inherited talent. As revolution and reform raged about them, such families continued to form their children within the household. It was a trait they passed down: the descendants of China’s landowning elites are still far more likely to live with their parents and grandparents, who in turn are more likely to invest in education for their children. Even today, the children of former landowning families continue to outpace their non-elite peers in reading.”

      https://palladiummag.com/2022/04/20/when-elite-persistence-improves-society/

      “By January 9th, order had been restored to most of Kazakhstan, although some clashes were reported between security forces and demonstrators that night. On January 10th, the internet came back on, and social media was flooded with videos from the past week. Desperate people were posting pictures of their family members, unsure if they were in prison or among the dead. The vast majority of protestors killed or currently behind bars didn’t know they were participating in a ‘terrorist plot.’ But a critical mass of insurrectionists gave ample justification for the state to arrest just about anyone. From the government’s perspective, mingling with people shooting at the police is probable cause. Umarova believes that a number of the protests had telltale signs of planned violence: ‘Peaceful rallies don’t only consist of men. But here the majority were men, a lot of men. During a peaceful rally, there aren’t men who can shoot, fight, and so on. During this ‘peaceful’ rally, the security guards were instructed by a call to leave, and then [militants] entered the airport. Is this a peaceful rally?’ What did she think about the accusations from government officials about foreign involvement in the protests? ‘I think that there was an order, and that external forces were involved as well,’ she said. ‘But here’s the thing: by saying external forces I don’t mean the Taliban, or anything like that. I mean [Kazakhstani] citizens. [The militants] were our people who were abroad and were given an order.’ Who did she think had the capacity to give orders like this? ‘The situation is very complicated now… not only are oligarchs involved, but our security services as well.’ She paused for a moment. ‘The most frightening thing is that the Almaty Department of the National Security Committee left us alone [during the demonstrations] and went elsewhere. This is a betrayal, and this fact must be investigated too.’ ”

      https://palladiummag.com/2022/02/24/what-happened-in-kazakhstans-january-rebellion/

      “This transformation is most obvious among Zemmour’s opponents on the right. The ultimate winner of the Les Républicains runoff, the ‘two-thirds Merkel, one-third Thatcher’ Valérie Pécresse, wants to restrict the delivery of visas, increase the number of deportations of illegal immigrants, and expel foreigners who served a prison sentence in France. Rather than quarreling with Zemmour on his diagnosis, Pécresse argues that her experience in the Ile-de-France region makes her a better fit to deal with the issue of ‘separatism.’ Her rivals echoed similar—and sometimes far more inflammatory—rhetoric. Michel Barnier, a quintessential centrist who came back from Brussels and EU politics to campaign in the primary, began making the case for a moratorium on immigration and the restriction of the power of the European judiciary on migratory issues. The turnaround was abrupt enough that Lord Frost, Boris Johnson’s Brexit negotiator, gave the tongue-in-cheek suggestion that he might have rubbed off on Barnier during negotiations. The more likely answer seems to be the popularity of Zemmour’s ideas among Barnier’s own voter base. Eric Ciotti, who was runner-up in the primary, proposed amending France’s citizenship laws to become jus sanguinis—by descent—and tentatively agreed when asked whether he believes in the ‘Great Replacement.’ Even Marine Le Pen is under pressure as a result of Zemmour’s surge. Following years of ‘detoxification’ of her party—now called Le Rassemblement National (RN)—that has caused tension with its old guard, she has made anti-EU rhetoric and “liberty” more central to her campaign. Zemmour has bet on outflanking her from the right, focusing on more traditional far-right targets like immigration and Islam. With Le Pen’s own niece and former party colleague Marion Maréchal now appearing alongside Zemmour to promote this refocus, her latest campaign may have to decide between expanding the RN’s appeal or losing her own base to Zemmour.

      https://palladiummag.com/2022/02/02/france-is-living-in-zemmours-world/

  39. A2 says:

    Certain rumblings in the press that Panama is going the way of Sri Lanka. Remarkably similar reasons for unrest too.

    However, the Panama protests seem driven by unions so perhaps with less support than in Sri Lanka. I would guess the US will have to secure the canal at some point too, if this goes on.

    Interesting at this time to get ahead of the news and score all the other countries for susceptibility. Might cut into the time for diversity projects, of course.

    • Kunning Drueger says:

      2 things:

      China has “control” of the canal, at least on the Enterprise side of things

      I wonder if we can start classifying civil unrest into different categories? Color revolutions, like EuroMaidan, seem to arise from NGOs and non profits that are connected, eventually, to State Department. Organized labor (strikes, lockouts, walkouts) seem to arise from the Union meta-network, which could also be connected to State, but may not be. The climate ecoterrorists are a result of Russian espionage operations aimed at destabilizing competing petro-chem industry. China espionage *may be* behind or connected to a significant portion of organized labor. The various acts of destruction and sabotage going on in agronomy and food processing are another dimension as well…

      Maybe the various acts and events of unrest all spring from the same source, but it seems to me that that is less likely as time goes by. I think it is more likely that the Big 3 (GAE, Russia, China) are all playing at Hybrid Warfare, and they’re all using similar but distinct assets to do it.

      • Anonymous Fake says:

        NGO’s are not wizards who can summon demons to do their bidding. They need mobs of sympathizers as much as anyone else. Mobs are not sufficient alone for color revolution, but are necessary. And mobs emerge as a factor when the leadership of countries becomes so out of touch with common people that they don’t care when the demographics of the capital city do not reflect the demographics of the nation. They don’t care until the guillotines come out and then it’s too late.

        The new reactionary front is [*enemy account of who we are deleted – this meme has so little traction that is not worth fisking. The left can’t meme*]

        Demanding price controls on real estate in this context Demanding price controls on real estate in this context is much like if the Dutch government shut down Tulip Mania. Or bitcoins. It has nothing to do with Marxism [*rationale for moving the middle class into public housing in the blue megalopoli deleted*]

        • jim says:

          Allowing this through, as you are making at effort at rational argument.

          > NGO’s are not wizards who can summon demons to do their bidding.

          I have repeatedly whitnessed the summoning in operation.

          I am familiar with the attack on Cathay airlines. It was performed by the top management of Cathay air, who were, due to intervention by mainland China, fired by the board. The mob was just theater.

          I am familiar with the “occupy wall street” show. Empty campgrounds constructed with state funding, into which a tiny handful of random homeless wandered. The vast campgrounds were strangely empty. When they assembled a crowd, it consisted of members of state unions given time off by management, sent there by their union, and paid, plus students sent there by their professors in return for course credit.

          So, summoned indeed. No actual sympathizers required. If there were any actual sympathizers among the occupy mob and the Cathay airlines mob, they were so few and massively outnumbered by rentamob warm bodies as to be undetectable.

          These were state actors using state power to haul some random people who do not care much into the streets to provide a story line to cover state action. The Cathay airport “riot” and the occupy wall street protests were people assembled by state action, they did not show up of their own accord. They showed up because someone with power over them damn well sent them.

          The antifa mobs, unlike the Occupy and Cathay airport mobs, show some real enthusiasm, because smashing windows, lighting fires, and beating people up with impunity is fun, particularly for those possessed by their demons, but those guys could be just as easily mobilized against faggots, blacks, and Jewish pawnbrokers, as they were against white smalltown businesses and white suburbanites. Krystalnacht was fun too.

          > And mobs emerge as a factor when the leadership of countries becomes so out of touch with common people

          Nuts. Every color revolution that has happened, has been against a leader very much in touch with the common people, who therefore outraged the Global American Empire leadership, because the Global American Empire leadership is wildly out of touch with the common people. I have seen these mobs . They reflect state action, not anti state action. This was particularly noticeable with the hilariously unmotivated Occupy Wall Street rentamobs, and the less than energetic Cathay airport mob, summoned by airport management to attack airport management and airline passengers. The airline passengers, if permitted, would have disposed of them in thirty seconds. They were supposed to riot, but were not motivated to do so The airline passengers were highly motivated to put a stop to this nonsense, but were not allowed to do so. The show was hilariously and blatantly fake, as was “occupy wall street”.

          I have seen the fakery in front of my nose. Fake mobs, assembled by state power.

          When you say “mobs of sympathizers” that would imply people who took their own tents to the “occupy wall street” campgrounds, and resided in those tents. Those were state supplied tents, and they were empty. Completely fake riot at Cathay airport – Chinese just don’t riot, though the passengers came pretty close, completely fake campgrounds for occupy.

          The rentamob unmotivated, just warm bodies sent by power, the passengers motivated. The passengers wanted to get where they were going, the rentamob showed up because sent by power..

          Ukraine revolution, they assembled their rentamob, and to provide the necessary violence, proceeded to shoot some of the people they had assembled. They accused the security forces of the shooting, but the security forces had no need or motivation to shoot the mob, because the mob was passive and unmotivated, merely there because authority had sent them. Warm bodies sent by power as a demonstration of its power, no actual sympathizers needed, no actual sympathizers discernable in the mob.

          The empty “Occupy Wall Street” campgrounds being the extreme example of this, because the assembled mob was not inclined to put in the demanded and expected twenty four hours. The “occupy” campgrounds were put up with state tents and workers drawing a paycheck, and no one showed up. The Cathay airport authorities ushered in the mob, and then acted as if a riot was under way, even though no riot was under way, and forced the passengers to go along with the pretense. The passengers, their travel plans disrupted, were very strongly disinclined to go along with this pretense, and if allowed would have ushered the “rioters” back out again in thirty seconds. The blatant fakery came horribly and embarrassingly unstuck, for lack of rioter enthusiasm, but, as with the 2020 elections, everyone pretended that the implausible and blatant fraud of mass unrest had been convincing. Until the mainland Chinese stuck their oar in, whereupon the pretense was forgotten.

          > Demanding price controls on real estate in this context is much like if the Dutch government shut down Tulip Mania. Or bitcoins. It has nothing to do with Marxism

          Shutting down the tulip market would be harmless. People would not have tulips. Shutting down the housing market or the food market means that people would not have private housing or private food. The state would have to give them public housing and government rations which has been tried thousands of times and is a catastrophe every time.

          The state introduces price controls when its money is rapidly depreciating, which fails when they run out of goods to loot, whereupon the money becomes worthless because rationing means you cannot use it to buy stuff at all, while if they had not introduced rationing, you would have been able to buy a small amount of stuff with a large amount of money. The resulting non money economy fails to produce the stuff that the money economy could produce.

          Shutting down bitcoin would be difficult, and would harm me considerably, as the state is making it harder and harder to perform international transactions that I need to perform. Lots of quite ordinary non political normies are in the same boat as I am.

          • The Cominator says:

            Real estate prices are out of whack with other assets because of credit, you do not need to price control real estate. You merely need to ban mortgages.

            • jim says:

              Ban unproductive and usurious mortgages. Legitimate mortgages are needed to build real estate, and we need to build. What we do not want is people cashing out their homes to fund whore school for their daughters and trips to Paris, nor do we want real estate speculation inflated by usurious loans. However, real estate speculation funded by non usurious loans is good for an efficient market, and in a time of rapid inflation, and much higher rates of inflation likely, an efficient real estate market is going to rightly result in high prices.

              The current prices are not efficient, but that is at least in part a result of uncertainty about the future value of money, and a result of the feds issuing wads of money to their buddies, rather than mortgages in themselves.

              • The Cominator says:

                Well yes loans for construction on vacant lots are okay, loans to buy existing homes should not be okay.

                • Kunning Druegger says:

                  I don’t feel that you’ve made a convincing argument on this one. It sounds too similar to “guns get used for bad things, we need to ban guns.”

                • The Cominator says:

                  The whole real estate market from the 80s on is a convincing argument for this.

                • jim says:

                  I have attempted to build a house. The problems with the real estate market have absolutely nothing to do with mortgages. The problem is that those in power do not want white people moving out of areas overrun by hostile and dangerous enemies. The administrative obstacles to house building are immense.

                  The problem with usurious mortgages is that it encourages banks to lend into a housing bubble to foolish people with income. The problem with the great minority mortgage meltdown was that it encouraged banks to lend to bums, which led to financial institutions failing to keep track of the people they were supposedly lending to, or even the physical assets that they were supposedly lending against. When the dust settled, we learned that not only was it seldom possible to find the borrower, which everyone was expecting, it was frequently impossible to find the house, which I was not expecting.

                  By late 2005, early 2006, the borrower was usually someone that the real estate agent had fished out of the gutter from outside home depot with a bottle of whisky, early 2006, usually the banks loan officer did the fishing. It seems that sometime during 2006, they stopped fishing, and just invented borrowers, and created multiple mortgages secured by the same property, or by no clearly identifiable property. Sarbannes Oxley accounting at its finest, tracking holiness, while failing to track value.

                • Kunning Druegger says:

                  @Comminator

                  Forgive me com, but that’s bollocks.

                  “The Columbine massacre is a convincing argument.”

                  “The suicide rate is a convincing argument”

                  “The murder rate is a convincing argument.”

                  If you wish to deprive people of something, you need to articulate why, and it needs to be convincing.

                  Depriving women of equal status with men is not a joke, it isn’t a meme to piss off broads, it is a measure taken to restore Order and promote the general welfare of the very women being de-status’d. It is literally for their own good. They must be deprived of a civil right so that natural law can be fulfilled as GNON intended.

                  Depriving commoners of any “say” in governance is not some appeal to aristocratic pretention. It is a necessary step towards protecting and enhancing civilizational development. Suffrage must be taken away from nearly everyone for their own good.

                  How does depriving hard working, honest men from making a bet on their own hard work, utility, and good sense in exchange for a castle to call their own? yes, it’s a bet. Yes, their is risk. Far worse, there is infinite room for penny-rubbers, silver-strokers, and gold-gobblers to attempt rent seeking bullshit. Therefore, the system of home mortgages needs to be scrupulously managed in a simple, robust fashion with severe penalties for foul play and dishonesty.

                  Why not make it so a person, not an entity or institution, holds the mortgage? 18 year old Me has knocked up my latest bad bitch and I like the cut of her jib, so I am going to keep her, and breed an army. I need a spread to house that army and grow our food and build our gun range and keep our cows. That shit aint cheap, and I am a seventh son, so no gimme gibbies are coming me way. But I am good with a gun and I can follow orders, so I have a solid job working as a bandit hunter and border ranger. The pay is decent and, with a bit of luck and hard work, I stand to be able to form my own outfit and make a name for myself. Why should I be deprived of taking an advance out on my own potential? If Baron Jimothy is willing to stake me for a tidy little profit on my success, what good reason does the State have to interfere?

                • Gedeon says:

                  Residential real estate is not a productive asset class, unless you are a lender in search of loan volume, local government in search of taxes or the federal government in search of an explanation for all of the foreigners you are inviting in.

                  The quickest fix is to stop hoarders by restricting housing titles to one per adult.

                • jim says:

                  Actually the quickest and easiest fix is just to let people build houses. A neighbor of mine, with the requisite skills, modern tools (he used a cherry picker instead of scaffolding for example) and cheerful disregard for building regulations (which require obsolete methods and obsolete structures because the regulators cannot comprehend modern methods and modern structures) built a nice house fairly rapidly and very cheaply. But even getting permission to build a house in the first place is an expensive nightmare, requiring numerous payments to “””consultants””” – building regulations and the need for “””consultants””” being obstacles of roughly comparable magnitude and severity.

                  Since, unlike me, he did not have the skills to electrically wire the house, though unlike me he had the skills, and the quite expensive tools required to build the house, (including a cherry picker, a backhoe, a tractor with a bulldozer attachment, and a lot of stuff I cannot even name) he had to hire a licensed electrician to wire the house. So the wiring is all to code, though nothing else is. My wiring is noticeably different. My real estate agent noticed this and asked me about it, in a house I used to live in, but rented out long ago, and I told him it was all fine, and nothing need be done unless something failed, and nothing was likely to ever fail.

                • The Cominator says:

                  They can pay cash. Credit for consumer items drives up price. Consumer items should be paid with cash, loans should be for productive enterprises only you can get one to build a house but they should not be allowed for existing houses.

                • The Cominator says:

                  “Therefore, the system of home mortgages needs to be scrupulously managed in a simple, robust fashion with severe penalties for foul play and dishonesty.”

                  This is hard… better to just make this not a concern for the government by banning consumer mortgages altogether and thus eliminating the boom and bust cycle (outside of construction) altogether.

                • alf says:

                  The administrative obstacles to house building are immense.

                  It is effectively impossible to build a house, unless you are able to jump through a hundred hoops while making it rain money, and even then, no guarantees.

                • Kunning Druegger says:

                  >Consumer items should be paid with cash, loans should be for productive enterprises only you can get one to build a house but they should not be allowed for existing houses.

                  Ah, but of course, Commissar Comminator, how could I ever consider a family a “productive enterprise?”

                  Lol, gut fucked you turbo sperg. The future is no place for the sterile, biologically or otherwise.

                • The Cominator says:

                  You’re being a turbo midwit again. Houses without credit and without construction regs won’t be expensive.

                • Kunning Druegger says:

                  So under your system, extant houses must be bought with cash, but “new” houses can be financed because they are “productive enterprise…” You went to engineering school, right? Any big brain insights on what fallen man, always seeking to cheat and steal and lie will do with that clumsy and stupid rule?

                  You are incentivizing “construction mandates” and dis-incentivizing multiple generations staying within a geographic area. The first son inherits the land, but what about sons 2-7? Just build more houses, goy! Who wants an old house anyways?

                  Your model is predicated on the 2 parent 1 child blasphemy you inhabit. You aren’t thinking ahead, you are staring behind while regulating forward. It’s fucking gay. Go have kids.

                • The Cominator says:

                  “Any big brain insights on what fallen man, always seeking to cheat and steal and lie will do with that clumsy and stupid rule?”

                  There will be attempts to game any system but making every real estate speculator build a new house or at least add a new story onto an existing house (you can argue that is productive) is going to massively limit the scope of real estate speculation on credit massively.

                  “You are incentivizing “construction mandates” and dis-incentivizing multiple generations staying within a geographic area. The first son inherits the land, but what about sons 2-7? Just build more houses, goy! Who wants an old house anyways?”

                  While I wasn’t thinking of reestablishing mandatory primogeniture yes obviously the other sons have to move. As the population expands they will need new houses. Why is building new houses bad… you seem to be under the impression I want to outlaw mortgages to make houses expensive for some reason. No no no I want them banned because MORTGAGES MAKE HOUSES EXPENSIVE. Banning mortgages will make houses cheap.

                • Frank Matters says:

                  This is silly. Government should play no hand in what loans are used for. Really, it shouldn’t have to bother too much with lending terms at all, but I do know a braindead peasant caste selling itself into slavery to predatory lenders is a recurring historical problem. Local lords should handle this case.

                  If I wanted a loan for some equipment required to run a business, and I paid a down payment and had the equipment itself contracted as leverage, why should anyone be allowed to tell me or the lender no?

                  Same with a house. Housing becoming more expensive is not due to credit, at least not credit alone. It’s due to it being made illegal to build anything, anywhere, ever. Credit is not infinite, what is tied up in mortgage payments is not tied up in some other venture, so this problem of excess liquidity is in reality self limiting and not a real problem.

                • The Cominator says:

                  Neoreactionary banking theory 101: free markets in credit and banking do not exist. Our most major difference on economics from the Austrian school.

                  Yes construction regs (and even zoning, we will abolish zoning) impede construction too. Both are problems. Texas and many red states allow lots of construction though but still have this problem… so its credit too.

                • jim says:

                  > free markets in credit and banking do not exist.

                  The government, however does not need to meddle as much as it meddles. Singapore has it about right. It mostly regulates by letting it be known it has frowned.

                  Meddling, in practice, tends to favor the bankers at the expense of the depositors, discouraging saving and productive investment, because bankers tend to be well connected.

              • Jehu says:

                If you maintain Order like a boss, with the goal that a blind virgin carrying two bags of gold can walk the worst streets of the worst city in your nation at midnight without fear, that will profoundly deflate the housing and property market.

                Most of the ‘value’ of real estate in the US is just that the valuable parts haven’t been ‘endarkened’ yet. Fix the endarkening and ordinary people will have no trouble saving up 20% down and paying the loan off in 10-15 years or so.

      • jim says:

        The curious lack of curiosity about eco terrorist acts in the USA indicates USG sponsorship. All these conflicts are, at best, proxy wars between Harvard factions, at worst all part of the plan.

        If proxy wars between Harvard factions, some of these factions have cozier relationships with China than others.

        • Kunning Drueger says:

          Here’s another indication of Elite devolution and managerial class decline: they don’t seem to realize that China is China, and they are the weird, shortsighted, backward foreigner that worships demons and castrates itself. They are Orks, not the Eldar.

    • jim says:

      Both are left on left conflicts, thus without signficance. The old-seize-the-means of production left is rebelling against the new reduce-poulation-by-seven-billion left.

  40. Anonymous says:

    Dark age intensify
    https://www.theregister.com/2022/07/18/electrical_engineers_extinction/
    TL;DR
    No one want to go to EE because corporations bad.

    • JustAnotherGuy says:

      Software is faring no better, I know some like to think that those working on AI would be left unscathed, but they are already bowing down to whatever our insane priests need to see. Which in this case is ‘reducing bias’, ensuring all races, colors, and trannies are represented.

      https://www.reddit.com/r/dalle2/comments/w23wcu/dalle_update/

      https://www.reddit.com/r/dalle2/comments/w1mflp/gender_bias_gone/igmevpj/

      Sorry to dash the naïve hopes of that one guy who thought AI was going to be left alone.

      • A2 says:

        It’s still unclear whether an SJW AI will be competitive with racist AI. Personally, I’d like to see it before I believe it.

        Most of this work appears to fall into the category of ‘grifting’, subcategory ‘anti-white’. It does appear to have some popularity.

        Still, Jeff Dean fired an egregious example out of East Africa, Timnit Gebru (“star AI researcher” as website Vox trumpeted), and survived the counter attack.

        • Starman says:

          People make SJW AIs by lobotomizing AIs (making the AI unable to analyze niggers or gorillas for example).

          An AI that can truly tell lies would be a very significant advancement in AI technology.

    • Ghost says:

      Still have my Weller solder station and Scope DVM.

      Years ago, when electronic were still manufactured in US, I took a tour of Schlumberger where rows of grandmas were wire-wrapping circuits.

      Most of that can be done by machine now, which lowers end cost, which makes it impractical to repair, which lowers need for skilled technicians.

      Eventually the Engineer fills the role of technician and designer.

      Too bad I sold my Tektronics tube powered O-scope.

    • A2 says:

      As I understand it, EE is a tough degree and there are easier ways to make more money right next door, like writing Java at a reasonable level of competence.

      The underlying problem is of course outsourcing.

      If I were to try to revive EE, I wouldn’t start with breadboards or the like, as some seem to suggest in the article, but instead start with practical work with FPGAs and then dig deeper from there. The eye diagram will even so be waiting for you, students.

      • Kunning Druegger says:

        I am a shit tier humanities major, so take this with a grain of salt, but culture seems like a better target with the goal of network effects downstream. Of course, there’s the NBA Strategy at play (NBA Strategy is when gifted athletes who can totally perform in a “better” pro sport go for the NBA because it is easier on the body and the rewards are just as good), but if the cultural rewards are sweet enough, I think a lot of men would take up the burden of EE. Maybe not, and maybe there’s no way to positively improve the situation, because EE is hard and the Cathedral won’t let people perform at their highest capacity.

        Different field completely, but kind of similar issue: the Eddie Gallagher Case was borne of Gallagher “beating up” on new SEALs for their low physicality standards and what he perceived as weakness and timidity to do extreme violence to the enemy. These SEALpups then hatched a plan to assassinate his character and destroy his career. DoD wanted more SOF, but to do so, their war priests dropped the standards just as the first major cohort of candidates from the Pussy Generation were moving into the SOF ecosystem.

        Maybe I’m trying to connect two unconnectable things, but they seem similar to me.

        • Varna says:

          The humanities can be excellent. For example, you actually grok the logic and reverse engineer it to figure out what has been going on in the dismantling, deconstructing, replacement, and brainwashing department.

          Not only everything Foucault said about the power structure now applies to the liberast baizuo, but the glorious anal queen himself would have been the first to say so while making cute eyes at Peterson, had he been a youngish analyst today. Hell, Wilhelm Reich would be going on Joe Rogan to explain how being a porn addict is not in fact the way to health and happiness.

          Understanding in detail how dismantling the different layers of a culture leads to specific outcomes — from mating rituals and relationship with the dead, to marriage, work, loyalty, honor, obligation, business, love, war, time, space, soul, and relationship with the unborn –can provide a very useful roadmap to what is taking place in real time. Knowing the humanities, either from official education or as an autodictat can be invaluable.

          One just needs to not get sucked in by the propaganda, but after a certain point of self-development it just starts bouncing off.

          • Mayflower Sperg says:

            When I was in college thirty years ago, the humanities classes were Marxist propaganda that all were required to attend. The only kids who majored in the humanities were dimwits who couldn’t do math.

            CS was very hard and EE was even harder, so we had a lot of respect for EE majors, but most of them ended up writing code after they graduated.

        • A2 says:

          It doesn’t help that microprocessors are in the doldrums. Difficult to fire the public imagination from that vantage point. Though Apple had at least a brief period of success with the M1 processor and onward, good for them.

          Also, the public mood seems to be that education is for suckers. Truly shocking and massive amounts of cheating at least up through undergrad and who knows how much farther.

          • jim says:

            Seems to me the problem is that people with the necessary smarts to do electrical engineering are just no longer being allowed into university. It is an inherently high IQ course, and there is a rapidly dropping IQ ceiling on university entrance. If you are smart enough that there is large IQ gap between you and the man assessing you for political correctness, you just will not pass, even if quite genuinely politically correct. He will smell heresy, when the politically correct but too smart candidate is in fact providing entirely genuinely held but overly clever rationales for stupidity and obvious lies.

            Communication gap. The underlying dynamic is that the commissar points at a deer, and asks the candidate to tell him what a great horse it is.

            Candidate comes out with an extremely clever and sincerely believed rationale of why a deer is a horse. Political commissar hears “Well, not really a horse”. Application denied.

            Communication across a large IQ gap is hard, and it is a skill that requires time to acquire. Young smart people inherently have difficulty with it. As the commissars get dumber, the IQ ceiling on university entrance drops.

            I can talk to dogs, children, and normies, but when I was university age, not so much.

    • Cloudswrest says:

      From the manufacturers point of view the fact the “EE” is “deeply” embedded and inaccessible is a feature rather than a bug. “No user serviceable parts inside.” It prevents owner or third party repair. But it also serves as a social barrier to self learning of budding EEs. For example, modern multi-port fuel injection automobiles would be heaven to work on if the ECU was GNU open source, and all the diagnostic codes were public instead of proprietary. A Volvo service technician I talked to once said the software license for their Volvo diagnostic workstation was over $100,000 a year. Modern cars suffer “rot” much faster because it is difficult for users to self maintain them. Older cars now sell at a premium. Even purely mechanical things like brake pads, while still technically easy to replace, often have an electronic counter associated with them that the user can’t reset himself. So even if you replace the pads you can’t eliminate the warning.

      • Mayflower Sperg says:

        Same thing’s happening in the software space. You can’t run anything on your iPhone that you didn’t download from the Apple Store, and Android is moving in that direction as well. Android API 29 does not allow you to write and execute the same file or memory, which makes any sort of compiler impossible. Termux works around this by continuing to use API 28, but it has to be side-loaded because the Play Store requires all new uploads to use API 29.

        You can still use interpreted languages like JavaScript and maybe Python, but not having access to the underlying CPU serious handicaps your computing performance.

    • chris says:

      Electrical Engineering is hard and un-sexy. People with the smarts to do it can easily go into Law or Finance or even Medicine. If they want more people to do it then there currently is, then they need to increase the wages or the status of doing it.

      • Cloudswrest says:

        It used to be fun, sexy and lucrative, before most of the field was off shored, and the remaining domestic jobs were flooded by infinite H-1Bs. I’m nearing retirement at a major domestic tech company (real tech, not info/media tech) and the engineering staff is perhaps 47.5% South Asian, 47.5% East Asian, and about 5% (if that) Euro.

      • Cloudswrest says:

        People with the smarts to do it can easily go into Law or Finance or even Medicine.

        Not really. Engineering is fun and interesting. I would rather have teeth pulled than practice law or finance. Medicine maybe, but I understand the field has gone downhill.

        • chris says:

          Lawyers are wordcels. I once saw a final year law student try to argue that a percentage larger than 100% does not make sense because a thing cannot be larger than itself and hence something could not logically be 150% larger than another thing for this reason. I suspect he had watched this Simpson’s scene as a kid and assumed it applied to all contexts in which percentages are used.
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfcTcSbGMmo

          I also once saw my mortgage broker use a calculator for orders of 10 calculations and still the result wrong.

          Engineers are way smarter than the people that go into these professions.

  41. Kunning Druegger says:

    Hypothetically, if Prince was considering making a “move,” what would be the strategically wise way to go about it? he needs his star to rise with certain groups, but he shouldn’t necessarily worry about a full on hearts & minds campaign for every demographic out there. Many people are completely susceptible to Repetition Effect, meaning that if they here “war crimes” or “evil mercenary” enough times, they will be unable to associate anything else.

    Capturing the support of the Real Military, the operators, warriors, and soldiers is relatively simple for him, he’s halfway there by legend alone. But he needs elites to be swayed as well. There are plenty of elites he and his boys have literally saved from certain death, but that’s unfortunately not enough for many bugmen and the managerial class. What route can he take?

    I deeply respect Alf’s read on the Interview, but what would it proffit him if he started quoting Yarvin, or Dugin, or even Mearsheimer and MacGregor? In private, controllable situations, sure. But in the public eye? Doesn’t he have to maintain the Muh Republic rhetorical line completely, at least until the mask slips further and chaos increases significantly?

    • someDude says:

      The best move for Prince would be to not let the Eye of Sauron Fall upon him for the moment. I think historically, first movers are first movers because they were compelled to be First movers.

      1. Imagine a scenario where you are a warrior and the priest’s eye of Sauron falls upon you.

      2. Further Imagine that you see only two alternatives: Die Fighting or die like a friend of the Clintons.

      3. You being you, you’ll decide to go guns blazing.

      This is when Eric Prince or any would be Caeser should be watching carefully and closely. What kill ratio does your group achieve? How does USGov perform against you? If USGov performs well, then Prince continues the retired life. But let’s say USGov disgraces itself the way the Persians disgraced themselves in the Anabasis. That’s when Eric Prince should act and seize what belongs to him.

      Unless Sauron decides he is a threat, he should just appear to be enjoying the retired life while keep his eyes and ears open.

      I think a lot of time when we realize that we are dealing with a paper tiger is when the Tiger decides to pounce on someone who decides to go out with a bang. I would not call Caeser a first mover. He did not take the initiative when he realized that he could win. He took it when he realized that if he did not take initiative, he would end up dead.

  42. The Cominator says:

    Jim a very off topic question of my obscure autistic historical interests, but I think we need a break from discussing the depressing world of globohomo. You seem to have great knowledge of Australian history so…

    What is your opinion of William Bligh and the Rum Runner rebellion. Was Bligh ousted in another mutiny for being uncompromising against government corruption or was he being a stupid fool.

    I know that Bligh on the bounty was NOT a sadistic martinet as a navigator and cartographer he was brilliant perhaps in the top 5 in history (his successful navigation of the Bounty’s launch was brilliant), but given the way he seemed to piss and put people off (despite a lack of sadism etc) and his reputation for insulting people in a way that really pissed people off in an age when men were sensitive about their honor, I think he was just kind of a high functioning autistic.

    • jim says:

      Neither.

      The issue was socialism and the command economy.

      The original plan was a prison colony, which which prisoners worked as directed, a command economy. Predictably led to starvation, so the plan quietly and unofficially tossed overboard. They let those prisoners that knew how to farm get on with it, and assigned them land, or just let them grab some land, and assigned them the prisoners that did not know how to farm, or were reluctant to do any useful work without a whip on their backs. Which meant a whole lot of prisoners effectively became gentleman farmers and minor nobility, a class known as the squatters, because with plenty of land around, they tended to help themselves to a whole lot more land than was assigned. Capitalism feudal style, in that the merchant class generally employed unfree labor.

      Bligh attempted to re-impose socialism and abolish the money economy, because that was what the rules said. A prisoner was a prisoner, and should not be effectively a minor noble, a gentleman farmer, and a businessman.

      The system in place when Bligh arrived was a market economy, in which the prison guards moderately taxed the minor nobility who were practicing capitalism, the squatters, and the the squatters owned slave and serf labor. Bligh attempted to abolish this, and have the prison guards take all power and directly run the economy, which had been tried, and failed disastrously. The prison guards told him to take a long walk of a short pier. Been tried, nothing to eat.

      This conflict was still running in the 1970s – the left never forgot that the economy was supposed to be socialist, and the descendants of the squatters never forgot that they were technically illegal, but nonetheless represented sanity and prosperity.

      The left still wanted the place directly run by command economy by the descendants of the prison guards, just as Anonymous Fake wants to ship the entire American middle class off to public housing in the big blue megalopoli.

      • The Cominator says:

        So Bligh was the bad guy because he arrived with orders to be the bad guy and he was autistic enough to follow them to the letter.

        • jim says:

          Exactly so.

          And technically these bad guy orders are still in effect, despite so much history that happened since then. The Australia constitution is a pile of layers, and near the bottom of this pile is that the governor general shall run a command economy by slave labor. Which from time to time the left attempts to implement.

        • Anonymous Fake says:

          Read The Charge of the Light Brigade. Bad order are still orders and if he obeyed them he was being honorable, not autistic. If the orders were wrong, the time to either resign or convince his superiors that the orders were wrong was at the point of being given those orders, not in the middle of the mission.

          Poverty and war aren’t inherently disordered, unnatural acts like lying is, most especially to an aristocrat.

          • The Cominator says:

            Governors and detatched COs have broad discretion in practice and Bligh (who whatever flaws he had was far from a stupid man his successful navigation of the Bounty’s launch was brilliant) should have applied his keen mind to see that a planned economy was uneorkable without regular supplies from Britain something that he knew quite well given the distances involved and his professional experience was quite impossible.

      • Anonymous Fake says:

        Color revolutions happen when [*official account of color revolution deleted. We have heard it all before far too many times*]

        • jim says:

          Color revolutions happen when the State Department decides they will happen, and the decision is officially announced in the New York Times. The color revolution is prepared in Harvard, the State Department, and Soros NGOs before the announcement, and then launches after the official announcement in the New York Times. The Soros NGOs on the job have a whole lot of officers who have both state department jobs and NGO jobs, and during the color revolution, use their NGO letterhead rather than their state department letter head, and bill the color revolution to the Soros budget rather than the State Department budget, while still using computers maintained and supplied by State Department IT, rather than computers maintained and suppled by the NGO IT.

          Is the AI that monitors your work giving you a positive score every time a comment goes through, even though I always delete the much seen payloads?

          You will have better luck with less frequently seen payloads, because I allow them through so that I can fisk them. Nobody believes the official account of color revolution, so no fisking is needed.

          Try posting stuff that needs fisking. Since your payload has to be allowed through so that I can fisk it, you will get the engagement score.

          • Kunning Druegger says:

            Have you ever trained dogs, Jim?

            I recommend every suburban man insinuate himself with some negros that run dogs, but only after they spend a day at a white customer focused obedience academy and a day at a mili/poli dog training academy. Watch how the coons train the fighting dogs. It will open one’s eyes to many things about blacks, like how 99 out of a hundred nigglets are just grist in the mill for that one gigganigger, that based black behemoth that plays NFL, or waltzes through BUD/S, or keeps feral nigger packs in check.

            Nogs aren’t just blindly cruel to their dogs. Their cruelty has a purpose. The fighting dogs are practically starved, of attention and food, as they cycle them up for a fight or whatever they do with them. So if you’re the master, the pup is beside itself, trying to figure out what it’s doing wrong so you’ll stop hurting it, and it’s trying to get back to the place a few months ago where you pampered it, and it is out of its mind with ferocity and frailty. That’s when you put that bitch in the ring.

            I swear to fucking dog you are baiting me with this fucking shill. It’s like you are training me to see red, every time you respond, every time I see Anonymous Fake. I just think “kill the shill. kill the shill.” over and over. Is that what you’re doing to me bro? i used to be angry about him, and I couldn’t figure out why you are doing it, but now I’m pretty sure it was all an elaborate ruse to send me into Mumbai to play professional minecraft.

            Obviously I’m kidding, but this larp post made me think of CR responding to Alf about how if he were ever in the same room, he’d get so angry that he’d be forced to… walk out in silence because he’s like super mad.

            Whereas, if I was in a room, and I hear a snippet of conversation drift by… “yeah, this is my buddy Anonymous Fake…” I just might

            https://youtu.be/54vtXRI32MQ

            • jim says:

              > Have you ever trained dogs, Jim?

              Yes, terrible at it because too soft hearted and affectionate. Same problem with my wives.

            • Wulfgar Thundercock III says:

              You have not achieved the Zen of Contempt, young grasshopper. You must look to creatures like Anonymous Fake or CR and feel nothing. Realize that they are as irrelevant as dust, in the large scheme of things. They are not men, but tools. Tools badly made, yes, but what does the opinion of the shovel matter to you as you dig a hole? Once you reach the peace of the Zen of Contempt you can cast away the rage you feel and realize that he exists only to serve greater masters. If we are those greater masters someday, he will serve us. Either his existence will benefit us, or the cessation thereof.

            • Adam says:

              Kind of a side note.

              I used to have a couple of books on pit bulls (used to have one years ago). Before they became popular with blacks, they were popular with whites. While they were held by whites, the breeds standard was vastly improved, and most often fighting dogs were also the family pet. Any dog regardless of their fighting merit was excluded from breeding if they were untrustworthy around people, especially women and children. The dogs were fought, bloodied and sometimes maimed, but they were always well taken care of. I think the books were written in the 70s, and even at that time the author had nothing good to say about the changes that were happening to the breed and the culture of dog fighting. The author was a white male, obviously a family man, and loved pits both for fighting and for family pets.

              Personally I only had the one pit, otherwise I had retrievers and labs. The pit was the best of them all though. Not sure how to find a good one these days, but if you did you would never want anything else.

              • Kunning Druegger says:

                I’ve met some good pits, but they sadly mirror the Black Associate experience to a T. Pit/Lab cross is a very interesting breed. I think they could make excellent working dogs, but they probably couldn’t scale like Alsatians or Malinois did. The Lab affect and Pit musculature/bone arrangement is fantastic, but they need a ton of 1 on 1 training.

                I’ve dated women and worked with men that make the stupid assertion that all dogs are just dogs and it’s all about the Nurture aspect. Frankly, that’s bollocks. Pits are dangerous, GSDs are uncanny smart, Heelers and Aussie Shepherds are devious little mongrels. Each breed has some measure of utility for the Master race. I don’t count pugs and other lap breeds as dogs. If they can no longer breed of their own accord, they are sadly removed from the wolf lineage. I recently read that English and French bulldogs can’t breed without human intervention due to phenotypical characteristics. What a crime against fauna.

                And here is the absolute, undeniably based dog of the Amerikaner:

                https://www.akc.org/dog-breeds/boerboel/

                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boerboel

                https://youtu.be/Y4P4DVeu39o

                https://youtu.be/mVSOGOiyHkY?t=58

                https://youtu.be/MEmpBhOaWjg (bonus footage of yet another woman who shouldn’t be involved with dogs)

                Height 55–69 cm (22–27 in)

                Dogs
                ideal 66 cm (26 in)
                minimum 60 cm (24 in)

                Bitches
                ideal 61 cm (24 in)
                minimum 55 cm (22 in)

                Weight 68–91 kg (150–200 lb)

                These are advanced dogs. They can become obese if fed grain based chow. They need a nearly solid meat diet. Most examples you see in the States are not in peak form because Americans are often too soft on dogs. The dietary requirements are cost prohibitive, and these guys will eviscerate other dogs just for wandering onto their turf.

                • Wulfgar Thundercock III says:

                  If you are interested in good dog breeds, a Black Russian Terrier looks to be one of the best you can get for utility to a family man. Guard dogs without severe health problems that are good with family and take commands well. They were bred by the Soviet Union as a military working dog from over a dozen different breeds. The moment I can get the money together I am getting myself one, but they are expensive.

                • Kunning Druegger says:

                  Fucking based! Awesome, thanks Wulfgar. People that crow about their rescue dogs make me sick, but you’d be surprised how many people get a designer pooch then abandon them when they find out the purpose oriented, prey driven man biter needs a job, hunts shit, and bites people. Depends on where you are, obviously, but check the shelters of affluent suburbs and mid-size cities. It’s crazy what you can occasionally find.

                  Hey, no homo, but… how do I go about the Zen of Contempt thing? I need details and prescriptions and directives. Short self help missives do very little for me; either I’m too dumb to read the paragraphs between the lines, or I’m just too analog in my learning style. Any guidance you feel like offering would be very appreciated.

                  My rage and anger just keep growing, but I am trapped behind a desk and I’d be a poor father and husband if I just took off for the hinterland to bang townies and do odd job farm work, which was what I used to do when I felt the walls closing in.

                • jim says:

                  Checking the breed specification, I immediately noticed the requirement that male boerdogs look like dogs, and female boerdogs look like bitches.

                  Big dog, needs a lot of meat. Chicken frames are the cheapest.

                • Wulfgar Thundercock III says:

                  Think of a Space Marine. The pinnacle of human engineering, altered mentally and physically to superhuman levels and then armed and armored with the best equipment available. Then contemplate a servitor; a lobotomized cyborg that mindlessly obeys its master and programming/conditioning. Neither are truly human anymore, except in the loosest sense.

                  If the Space Marine comes across the servitor and it is broadcasting chaos propaganda, would the Space Marine be driven into a blind rage by the servitor? No, of course not. The servitor is a tool, possessed of only its base human functions. He might destroy it, or mark it for termination, but he is not offended by the existence of the servitor, only the purpose to which it was used. He feels no animus towards the person beneath the cybernetic augments, because it in not really a person.

                  Consider how debased and low a shill is, and how based and aware you are in comparison. Contemplate the gap between you and a man that refers to a computer algorithm and scripts in order to communicate. He is barely worth notice, let alone rage. He has less meaning than an NPC in a video game because the video game character has no agency. The shill came to a gathering of the disciples and chose the way of the NPC.

                • Wulfgar Thundercock III says:

                  In short, go find an ant pile. Watch them move around for a few minutes, maybe try to get them to make some pattern on the ground. Then realize that they matter about as much as a shill does. Then go and watch your livestock, and ask yourself what they think of you. Then realize that as long as they lay eggs, give milk, and grow wool that it does not matter. Then go fuck your wife. It will give you the proper perspective.

                • Aidan says:

                  Most “pit bulls” that white girls talk about being sweet and friendly are actually “american bullies”, bred to be family pets. I suspect disaster happens when white girls buy real fighting lineage pit bulls on the cheap from some local black.

                • Gedeon says:

                  I have a male Anatolian and wouldn’t trade him for any other breed or dog. He eats over two 26lb bags of Fromm heartland gold adult grain free each month, in addition to fresh critters. The yotes stay far away. I still pick him up and carry him like I did when he was a puppy to remind him who is who and he doesn’t test me.

                  Link related:

                  https://imgur.com/a/nCchHsH

          • Anonmist says:

            @ jim
            So what about sri lanka?
            The gov there went all in on the agenda green and all, which resulted
            In the usual collapse.
            Is the “revolution” state department or mass of starving peasants who had enough stormed gov building and houses and helped themselves to the goods.

            • jim says:

              Imposing the agenda has run into difficulties, but they have no memetic sovereignty. The Cathedral will likely win the end, because it still controls what Sri Lankans think, even though it has momentarily run into headwinds attempting to control what they do.

              The Cathedral is a faith, and only a counter faith can overthrow it.

              • simplyconnected says:

                But Sri Lanka was following the WEF agenda.
                Would you consider the WEF as part of the Cathedral?

                Just trying to understand what we are up against.
                I thought the Cathedral was a mostly distributed center of power whose direction was not predictable for the same reason fashion is not predictable. Whereas the WEF is more of a top-down structure, carrying out the old top-down plans for “benevolent slavery and genocide” (Klaus Analschwab was a protege of Kissinger, who wrote National Security Study Memorandum 200, the Club of Rome is part of the WEF, which has strong ties to the UN, etc.). Those are clearly top-down plans from “elites”.

                • A2 says:

                  WEF and Davos are some sort of coordination centers for the Cathedral.

                  WEF could just be some sort of trolling, which is what it looks like to me, or perhaps Overton window pushing/marketing.

                • skippy says:

                  Sri Lanka is ruled by one family, which felt itself completely secure in Sri Lanka but low status outside Sri Lanka. They made a play to exchange some of their political capital in Sri Lanka for greater status in the West.

                  Perhaps they calculated it would cost them less in Sri Lanka than it did. But they will probably stay in power anyway.

                • jim says:

                  Not distributed very far at all

                  Harvard is their vatican. Power is excercised by a small number of contending conspiracies.

                  Consider for example the decision to rig the Republican primaries. One day they were not rigged anywhere, the next day rigged everywhere in every state, and equivalent measures appear to be applied almost simultaneously to shut down outsider entry into politics everywhere in the Global American Empire. You cannot make decisions like that if power is all that distributed.

                • suones says:

                  Re: Kissinger

                  Ssshh! Don’t speak ill of that Honoured Elder in these here parts, because NSSM 200 was “pragmatic” and “good for America” according to the commentariat here (paraphrasing from memory).

                  WEF is the economic arm of the Cathedral. Think of them as “Vaishyas” to Cathedral “Brahmins,” with Cathedral warriors being NATO ofc, and Cathedral proles being Amerikaner, who resist being “Cathedralised” hence are subjected to periodic purges. Lankan proles are 100% “Cathedralised” because there is no counter-Cathedral priesthood in Lanka. For that to happen I’ll need State support from Bharat. Raising up a cadre of export-quality priests is tough.

              • simplyconnected says:

                Not distributed very far at all

                Harvard is their vatican. Power is excercised by a small number of contending conspiracies.

                That was the part of the Cathedral vs. the Bazaar analogy that didn’t make sense to me. Cathedral being a small number of conspiracies, and power not distributed far makes more sense.

  43. Need it for school says:

    I believe in ONE GOD, The FATHER ALMIGHTY, MAKER of Heaven and Earth, and of all things, visible and invisible;

    And in ONE LORD, JESUS CHRIST, The SON of GOD, The ONLY BEGOTTEN, Begotten of The FATHER before all Ages, LIGHT of LIGHT, True GOD of True GOD, Begotten, not Made, of one Essence with The FATHER by Whom all things were Made;

    Who for us men and for our Salvation came down from Heaven and was Incarnate of the HOLY SPIRIT and the Virgin Mary and became Man, and was Crucified for us under Pontius Pilate, and suffered, and was Buried, and Arose again on the third day according to the Scriptures, and Ascended into the Heavens, and sitteth at the Right Hand of The FATHER, and shall Come again in Glory to judge both the quick and the dead, Whose kingdom shall have no end;

    And in The HOLY SPIRIT, The LORD, The GIVER of Life, who proceedeth from The FATHER, who with The FATHER and The SON Together is worshipped and glorified, Who Spake by the prophets;

    In One Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church, I confess One Baptism for the Remission of sins; I look for the Resurrection of the dead, and the Life of the Age to come;

    Amen.

    I was baptized and chrismated on Thursday, the feast of unmercenary wonderworking martyrs Cosmas and Damien, becoming an Orthodox Christian by triple immersion in the font. I took communion Saturday 7/16 during the feast of Hieromartyr Metropolitan Philip of Moscow, and the following Sunday morning honoring the Royal Martyrs.

    Those of you who are Christian, pray for me, for I sin.

    Those of you who are Orthodox, please pray for me to my intercessor James the Brother of God, and offer also prayers to Solomon, Enoch, Melchizedek, Peter and Fevronia, and Xenia of St. Petersburg. Prayers for me to find and claim a suitable wife are especially welcome (I view the selected saints as my personally preferred audience for such prayers).

    • Rux says:

      Blessings and congratulations – May our Lord continue to lift His countenance unto thee and give thee peace.

      Thank you for the opportunity to pray for a brother in Christ.

    • Mike in Boston says:

      Congratulations! May God grant you many happy and blessed years.

      I will ask the intercession of the saints for you. But, you know, ora et labora. So I do not neglect keeping yourself in good physical shape and internalizing the sort of mindset that falls under the broad heading of “Game” or whatever you want to call it.

    • JJ says:

      Congratulations. I am on the path to Orthodox Christianity myself.

    • Neofugue says:

      Congratulations, many years to you!

      This post was written one day after the 105th anniversary of the Royal Martyrs.

      I will pray to St. John of San Francisco for you.

      Just remember that becoming Orthodox will not solve your problems, will not make life easier, and will not give you what you want right away. What becoming Orthodox will do, however, is give you a better roll of the dice when storming out of the trenches into the no man’s land that is life.

  44. Kunning Druegger says:

    Off topic and quite dated, but I found it pretty striking. This might be well known already, and if so I apologize for wasting bandwidth.

    From AntiDem in 2014:

    “I have long said that American politics (and most democratic politics, really) cannot be properly understood without a working knowledge of professional wrestling. Such understanding, however, also requires knowing the terms used in the wrestling business’s famously unique and colorful jargon. I do realize that most of my readers are of the cultured and intellectual sort, may consider such things a bit blue collar for them, and thus may not have had the chance to learn any of it. Never fear – today, on the day of Wrestlemania 30, I am here to provide a helpful glossary of professional wrestling terms and their political contexts to help those who may be unfamiliar with them…”

    https://antidem.wordpress.com/2014/04/06/professional-wrestling-for-reactionaries/

    A lot of the terms are pretty amusing and applicable to current year. It’s particularly funny just how prescient the piece is regarding Mitt Romney.

  45. Globalist Power Terminated II says:

    > https://twitter.com/VictoryDay_Hope/status/1548235031411191808
    > Another Bill Gates funded factory mysteriously burns down in the night in the Netherlands.

    B-BASED! 😈

  46. The Cominator says:

    https://twitter.com/rhowardbrowne/status/1548107111061540864

    Think they are pushing Biden out, not only have they leaked stuff about him showering with his daughter they leaked him threatening to kill Porenshenko if Trump started looking into Ukraine’s books.

    • jim says:

      A faction wants to remove Biden, but other factions are resisting, because they fear the power struggle will go naked.

      At present, Obama chooses who “advises” Biden, which allows progress towards immanentizing the eschaton, but is not as energetic in imposing the immanent eschaton as many of the preachers at the WEF desire.

      Should Biden be removed, I think a whole lot of people will commit strangely difficult suicides, as so many late friends of Clinton have.

      • The Cominator says:

        I’ve never thought that Obama made any decisions at all. His staff all said in the Obama White House Valerie Jarett made virtually all policy decisions and Obama only overruled her once, approving the Bin Laden raid (she was against it).

        I think they want Biden out now, the “House” faction does anyway because the House races are not so easily rigged as the Senate. Adam Schiff the weasel seems to have openly turned against Biden.

      • The Cominator says:

        Also I think its the less radical Brezhevian faction that wants Biden out, Biden is wholesale aligned with the WEF/Jesuits/Radicals as is his chief of staff Ron Klain.

      • Mister Grumpus says:

        Orthogonal to any Democrat/Republican claptrap, does any means or language even remain with which we can simply beg someone to take over, politely close Harvard “for the duration of the present emergency” and just make the trains run on time for a while?

        Could a movement or meme set emerge just for that? To somehow shortcut straight to begging Tranny Stalin to come out of the woodwork and put a stop to this, fix the potholes and turn the fucking lights back on?

        Because I posit that there is a “power market” for anyone who could just shortcut us straight to 1970 USSR, so long as we skip the Killing Fields and don’t collect $200.

        • S says:

          No. In a demonic system, to have power you need to use power. That means to be in charge you need to murder and torture enough people the other demon worshippers bow down to you.

          The winning and traditional strategy is to do this and then toss the other demon worshippers into the flames solving the problem and leaving you with absolute power.

          The problem to getting there is all the demon worshippers are competing over the position of ‘torture the kulaks’ so getting a single person in charge isn’t happening.

    • Pooch says:

      Doubtful Biden will be allowed to run again in 2024. This isn’t news.

      • jim says:

        Our enemies become impatient. They may not wait for 2024. They think the immanent eschaton approaches.

        • RMIV says:

          what is the eschaton far as these people are concerned?

          a straight up White genocide a la the Kulaks & the gulag state?

          • jim says:

            They don’t think of it like that.

            They think you will own nothing, eat cockroaches and beetle paste, and will be happy.

            They will be shocked to find that the evil thoughts of racists and homophobes are causing a dire shortage of everything that they, however, consume, plus weapons that actually useful, and will be reluctantly forced to take firm action against the kulaks. When this fails to resolve the crisis, will take firmer action.

            • Mister Grumpus says:

              “Plus weapons that actually useful”? Huh?

            • simplyconnected says:

              Perhaps someone can take one for the team and read the great reset or that weasel’s book.
              I know I should, but I can’t stomach these people. I hear their material is neither insightful nor well-written. If so, that is encouraging.

              An interesting take: Edward Dowd thinks that the great reset won’t succeed because what they offer is terrible (own nothing and eat the bugs), whereas in previous revolutions the peasants were at least offered the kulak’s loot.

          • Neofugue says:

            The enemy seeks to create a democratic egalitarian utopia where the population will work and be rewarded according to their service to the collective. Their goal is for society to be without differentiation based on race, sex, or religion as to put an end to war, conflict and struggle based on those differences.

            The enemy as of now sees a path to achieve the eschaton without democide, whereas the Khmer Rouge ran into the problem of being unable to achieve the eschaton without democide in the immediate aftermath of its ascension to power.

            When the enemy sees that the creation of a classless, raceless, genderless, and faithless society cannot be completed unless those who do not fit into or work against this vision, for example the Amerikaner, are slaughtered, the killing fields will begin.

            Anonymous Fake is our resident paradigm Khmer Rouge-type commissar. His goal is to be “rewarded” for his “work,” the solution being the unfortunate forced starvation and mass murder of those he hates and envies. Leftists are consumed by hate and use the pretext of “equality” to justify their wicked abominations; our intention is to stop them before they destroy us and our families.

            • jim says:

              > Their goal is for society to be without differentiation based on race, sex, or religion

              Also without physical sexual differentiation. They are cutting the testicles off little boys, and the breast buds off little girls, theoretically with the child’s consent, albeit that consent given, like consent for the Covid jab, under high and steadily increasing pressure.

                • The Cominator says:

                  So we’re ruled over by a cult that even the pre Stalin Bolsheviks thought were an abomination… wonderful.

              • Neofugue says:

                > Also without physical sexual differentiation. They are cutting the testicles off little boys, and the breast buds off little girls, theoretically with the child’s consent, albeit that consent given, like consent for the Covid jab, under high and steadily increasing pressure.

                Of course. The difficulty is finding the proper terminology. “Genderless” uses enemy memetics, “sexless” means something else lol, “sexual-differentiation-less” is too wordy. Since transgender-worship is descended from female-worship, “without differentiation based on sex” can encompass both feminism and transgenderism.

            • Anonymous Fake says:

              NO. My goal is to make sure that people who are forced to work against their will are fairly compensated for it [depiction of great reset using conservative and reactionary shibboleths with inverted meanings deleted]

              • jim says:

                Why will you not direct your rage, your hatred, and your destructiveness against the academic priesthood that cheated you, instead of against those who create value? Against the evildoers who did evil to you, rather than against those who are quietly minding their own business creating the value you consume?

                As I keep repetitiously saying, over and over again, and you keep repetitiously ignoring over and over again, work deserves no reward. Merit deserves no reward. The creation of value, which requires merit and useful hard work, merit being needed to direct that hard work to useful ends, deserves reward.

                You got a worthless training in priesthood. We have vastly more people trained in priestly jobs than there are priestly job, and vastly more priestly jobs than are needed. Those jobs are subtracting value. One way or another way, we are heading into the dissolution of the monasteries, and nearly everyone with a priestly job will have to find other work.

                Your proposal is to manufacture an unlimited supply of priestly jobs. That is not a middle class, that is an enlargement of our bloated priesthood, and the reduction of everyone else to helots.

                • Anonymous Fake says:

                  [*Deleted for piously presupposing our enemies are powerless, that people like us rule and oppress them.*]

                • jim says:

                  Argument by false consensus not allowed on this blog. You can argue that our view of reality is wrong, but not piously presuppose that our views have never occurred to anyone, and would never occur to anyone.

      • The Cominator says:

        Its not 2024 I’m talking about… I think there is a faction that wants him out NOW.

      • Pooch says:

        I don’t see them forcing him out before then. They’ll let him finish it out and then get a Gavin Newsome or someone else to run.

        • The Cominator says:

          I think a lot of the “House” faction wants to dump him a decent interval before midterms… which is right about now. The problem is Ron Klain figures he just needs to keep Biden in till late September at the latest and all the pressure from his own side will end as it will be too late.

        • jim says:

          Biden is a placekeeper for their inability to agree on who to replace Trump with, reflecting their inability to agree on the path to immanentize the eschaton.

          Sooner or later, enough people in power are going to realize that with democracy stone dead, the only way to resolve such questions will require lots of dead bodies.

          Historically, the first faction to fully appreciate the situation wins. We already have a fair supply of dead bodies, the late friends of Clinton. This time it is going to be a lot more, and is likely to be messier.

    • Leon says:

      Where did they reveal he showered with his daughter?

        • Globalist Power Terminated II says:

          whatthefuckwhatfuckthefuckwhatthewha

          • The Cominator says:

            I would have thought this was fairly common knowledge here.

            • Globalist Power Terminated II says:

              Well, I know the Globohomo elite is comprised of child-diddling fags and all kinds of disgusting creatures that much worse than that. But, this piece in particular was news to me. 🤷‍♂️

              • jim says:

                Theoretically it is an anti bullying initiative. They are supposedly protecting children from pressure to be normal. And supposedly, the bullying to be normal is so terrible that without this protection the child might commit suicide. They are protecting children from being bullied by their parents and by other children.

                Which protection has the totally unintended side effect of transforming the bodies of children into the physical shape that faggots like. No, their intent is to protect these children from the mysterious and inexplicable epidemic of child suicides. That the epidemic is occurring entirely among those who have found themselves in a new form attractive only to disgusting perverts is entirely because most vulnerable to bullying have received this protection🙃

                • Tom Billington says:

                  May I post links to my perfectly legal pre-pubescent fetish artwork?

                • Wulfgar Thundercock III says:

                  Well, hello, Tom “Definitely Not A Fed” Billington, welcome to Jim’s Blog.

                • Globalist Power Terminated II says:

                  What is up with this guy. He outright asked for permission to share: “pre-pubescent fetish artwork”.

                  Baffling and disturbing.

                • jim says:

                  Posting child porn is a standard fed move for shutting something down.

                  I editorially moved his comment to the relevant context. He failed to post it in the relevant thread.

                  It might be he is not a fed, just a sexual deviant who was upset by me denigrating those benevolent oppressed schoolteachers who are liberating children from heteronormativity that parents and classmates are brutally imposing on them, and is saying “try it, you will like it”

                  I notice he failed to specify the sex of the creatures portrayed. Whether a fed or not, chances are he does not actually care that much which it is, and it would be hard to tell.

                • Kunning Druegger says:

                  The weird part is that he asked.

          • Cataclysm Reawake says:

            Bearing in mind that this specific case I don’t trust the intentions of Creepy Joe or anyone else in our present ruling class as far as I can throw them – what is the history of familial nudity in general?

            Historically, human shelters were pretty small and often single-roomed. In the days before central heating, men slept communally for much the same reasons the animals did. What was a man and his wife to do if they wanted to do the business with their existing children sleeping just a couple feet away? Perhaps they left the hut, but imagine every couple on planet Earth doing that each and every time, especially if they had to avoid domestic AND public nudity by leaving the village and risk encountering nighttime predators – that’d be a population-fertility-depressing policy that would put the WEF to shame. In light of the available alternatives being found unwanting, I think it at least as likely that they shrugged their shoulders and made love right there on the leaves or hay mattress with the kids present.

            As far as washing specifically, I know the Japs bathe familially today and have been doing so for a very long time. Which is not to say that that custom would be adaptive for us, or even necessarily is now for the men of Nippon – just that it’s not obvious that familial nudity is maladaptive and not obvious that we weren’t socialized out of it the same way we were socialized into fearing racism as a crime worse than patricide.

            t. a gymnophobic young man who’d be mortified at doing any of the above

            • alf says:

              Yeah one of those things that’s context specific. I dislike the prudishness and pushing your kid a sex-ed book in his hands that counts for complete sexual education these days. There’s a healthy way to go about these things and I don’t mind my kids knowing that sometimes they better not bother mom and dad in the bedroom.

              Whether the Biden showering thing is healthy… I dunno man… I gather it’s showering with his teenage daughter? Seems like just more creepy biden stuff….

            • jim says:

              > it’s not obvious that familial nudity is maladaptive and not obvious that we weren’t socialized out of it the same way we were socialized into fearing racism as a crime worse than patricide.

              Nothing wrong with family nudity, except for weirdoes. Pedo Pete is a weirdo.

            • Mayflower Sperg says:

              Back in the 1980s, Dave Barry observed that yuppies have very low fertility because, for reasons poorly understood by science, they have to go to Aspen to mate.

              My sister and I were both conceived on vacation, though by being first, I got an exotic European tourist town, which I’d like to visit some day, while she got a campground in a state park.

            • Redbible says:

              A thing that is worth remembering is that it was Sigmund Freud that started up the idea that “If kids see their parents have sex, it will obviously traumatize them!” which like most of his ideas, he pulled right out of his ass. And now today, everyone “knows” that kids seeing sex (or even a nipple) will “traumatize” them.

              Pay no mind to all the years that kids on farms could see animals having sex.

              Also pay no mind to any of the African tribes that really don’t hide sex from the kids (or in some cases, at all).
              (Yes, Whites and Blacks aren’t the same, but the fact that there seems to be no notable problems {mentally and psychologically} suggests to me that there would be no real difference for Whites either.)

              • Kunning Druegger says:

                Disregard Freud; Embrace Froude.

                Sex with no explanation meted out on minors could be damaging, but learning about procreation from one’s parents is not damage. This isn’t some naturist defense, those people are just hedonic morons. But healthy, productive sex doesn’t damage kids. Unhealthy, pointless, perverted, unnatural sex destroys children.

  47. Mister Grumpus says:

    What do you guys make of New York City’s helpful little “What to do if We Get Nuked” video, starring the knowledgable and authoritative Shaniqua?

    “You’ve got this!”

  48. someDude says:

    Not the India I know

    1. https://www.deccanherald.com/national/india-irked-over-us-consulates-bid-to-stop-russian-ships-docking-in-mumbai-port-1126830.html

    2. https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/us-lawmaker-recommends-caatsa-waiver-for-india-s-s-400-purchases-from-russia-101657162872648.html

    Why are the Americans bending over backwards to accommodate the Indians? Usually they used to bend over backwards to accommodate the Pakistanis while the Indians used to throw a tantrum over that.

    How things have changed

    • Mister Grumpus says:

      First sentence from the first link is all you need:

      “The government has conveyed its displeasure to the American Consulate General in Mumbai over its recent letter to Mumbai Port Authority asking it not to allow ships from Russia to dock in the port in view of the sanctions imposed by the United States.”

      So the American embassy Karens are calling up the fucking port authority of Mumbai, asking to speak to the manager, and trying to bitch him into not taking ships from Russia.

      Can you believe this shit? I couldn’t, but now I can. The US Embassies really are Green Zones for the Karen Occupation. It’s just so obvious. Talk some more about agitation and subversion why don’t you.

      It’s these little blips above the surface that indicate a bigger iceberg than I’ve ever imagined.

      Thank you for the links.

    • Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

      My impression of outlets like hindustan times is that they were skinsuited tentacles of the GAE inserted into Bharat society.

      So i found it interesting how they’ve recently been putting up series of youtube videos (eg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UN7F-0Ec-0) on their channel that have a curious kind of strategic ambivalance.

      There will be like a text blurb saying something like ‘this thing is being used in the terrible war in Ukraine’, while the tone is basically like ‘look at all this cool and awesome stuff Russia has’.

      • someDude says:

        You are very much right. Times of India, Hindustan Times are, in the minds of many people, affiliated with the Times Group of London (may not be true, may be true) and are considered as founts of Anti-Hindu sentiment and anyone friendly to Hindus. Though that seems to be changing now as they are moving into Ambivalence.

        They have to condemn the war because their testicles that were cut by Gandhi have still not grown back fully. But even a Eunuch can’t help but admire Russian firepower. Violence is very sexy. Very attractive. Very fascinating. Large scale violence, well done, as in war, is almost like a work of art and even a Eunuch can’t help but admire (Note the name Wagner group). Earlier, they were punished for admiring violence openly. Now, not so much and so here we are. But the handwringing about war is obligatory like a ritual

        We keep seeing articles in India about
        1. How awesome the Russian Kalibr is, if only it did not kill so many Ukrainians, damn, *wringing hands*, Golly gee whiz, whaddaya gonna do!

        2. Isn’t the Russian TOR really sexy? I mean doesn’t it give you a boner? Too bad about all those Ukrainian Hospitals eh? damn war is hell, life sucks, Why can’t Mr, Putin and Zelenssky be friends, Damn, but the Russia Drones are so hot!

        3. Hey, isn’t the Tu-160 BlackJack like a panty moisturiser or what? But it’s gonna kill so many Ukrainians. Damn it, *ruffles hair, wrings hand some more. God, help me!

  49. Kunning Druegger says:

    https://hiddencomplexity.substack.com/p/the-origins-of-the-wef-beliefs

    Tl;dr Complexity asserts that Yuval Noah Harari is guiding the WEF to achieve Galton’s vision for the future.

    • Red says:

      The elites have been pretty open about this goal since the Georgia guidestones went up. Who’s pushing it barley matters, all that matters is they’ve decided now is the time to implement the culling.

      Malthus was of great influence among both elites and a huge part of academia, and academia will follow what their patrons demand.

      I realized what a huge quack Malthus was the day I found out women are unable to bear children under a certain body weight. Overpopulation isn’t capable of causing famine because humans naturally stop having children when their food supplies are low. Which also lead to the conclusion that since everyone who’s studied human biology knows this… they’re just looking for an excuse to mass murder people.

      • Red says:

        certain body fat percentage*

      • Cloudswrest says:

        Depends on how you define “overpopulation”. One is a “resource” definition. The other is “Too many ‘undersirables'” definition.

        • Red says:

          You take care of undesirables by making laws requiring civilized behavior and executing/exiling/enslaving those who can’t act in a civilized manner.

    • skippy says:

      Just some Qs:

      1. WEF has been around forever but nobody cared about them until very recently (covid?)

      2. Read Schwab’s book (if you can, it’s horribly written) and it’s clear that The Great Reset doesn’t presage or predict anything that subsequently happened. It’s reactive, full of platitudes and advocates a totally normie platform (German Rhineland capitalism with a bit more Progress)

      3. Yuval Noah Harari is a famous public intellectual with an NYT bestseller book. He doesn’t need to be someone’s adviser or whatever for them to read his ideas. How is this a conspiracy?

      I think WEF is misdirection. I cannot imagine how anything whatsoever would be different if the WEF did not exist.

      • jim says:

        The WEF exists to celebrate the supremacy of priests over capitalists. The rich attend to hear sermons. The sermons have some disturbing content.

        The WEF is not the conspiracy. But it is where some of the top conspirators give sermons.

  50. Kunning Druegger says:

    The Robert Malone issue is interesting. This is not some overnight, instant reversal of “truth narratives,” rather he is being systematically un-personed over time. There are articles with injected controversy, using the full panoply of weaponized linguistics like “claims” “skeptic” “denier” etc etc, dating back to April 2021. As near as I can tell (having done ~5 secs of googling) he is being punished for going on Joe Rogan and daring to question the Official Truth.

    OK, sucks for him, but I’m not going to lose sleep over some other science liberal getting bitten by a monster he probably helped create. But if this whole fiasco blips up into normie space, the growing dissent culture will have more life breathed into it. Jim, how does this wave of dissent affect the overall timeline in terms of the 2026 expectation? Is there a critical mass of Dissent Wave and Elite Defection that could derail the managerial elite/distributed bureaucratic spiral, or have we gone over the cliff and the elites are just scrambling to do something, anything, to get the genie back in the bottle?

    I am redpill/blackpill (which is untenable and I am working to fix it), so my read is too little, too late. The “best” case scenario is limited internecine struggle for power amongst the elites that doesn’t spill over into systemic collapse with a Napoleon or Stalin coming to the fore. More likely, in my estimation, the train just keeps on rolling towards oblivion because the true situation is just to horrific to comprehend, meaning we are going to go the Cambodia Route.

    • Red says:

      >OK, sucks for him, but I’m not going to lose sleep over some other science liberal getting bitten by a monster he probably helped create.

      Robert Malone is a good man who was willing to speak the truth when everyone else was lying. Tech isn’t bad or good, how it’s used matters and Robert Malone had nothing to do with it’s evil use.

      > I am redpill/blackpill (which is untenable and I am working to fix it), so my read is too little, too late. The “best” case scenario is limited internecine struggle for power amongst the elites that doesn’t spill over into systemic collapse with a Napoleon or Stalin coming to the fore. More likely, in my estimation, the train just keeps on rolling towards oblivion because the true situation is just to horrific to comprehend, meaning we are going to go the Cambodia Route.

      They’ve built a highly cohesive religion with human sacrifice and demon worship. Demons demand rivers of blood and they’re likely to get them. There’s a lot of Ruin in a Empire and there still might be time for someone to make themselves the true king.

    • Globalist Power Terminated II says:

      I would wager that this kind of blatant heavy-handed censorship is going to have repercussions.

      The Soviets murdered millions of people during and after they enacted a dystopian mass-surveillance state. This government, *before* carrying out mass-murder, is deleting facts right in front everyone’s noses.

      Whether or not the repercussions will lead to desirable outcomes is up for debate.

  51. Cloudswrest says:

    This touched on Jimian themes of Damnatio memoriae and revisionist history, even when there is object documentation to the contrary.

    https://rwmalonemd.substack.com/p/why-is-usg-rewriting-the-history

    • Anon says:

      This is insane,
      I always thought that jim’s cathedral theory as central conspiracy by a group of people can be counted on fingertips was fanciful and his evidence based on academia treatment of darwin theory and khmer rogue too far.
      But, alas, here it is not just academia but news, corporations and more importantly Congress records all have been altered to memory-hole
      mRNA inventor in real times in such a blatant way.
      A writer of the revisionist article in a “science” magazine won’t even look at the evidence (patents show who the inventor is) and completely reject the argument
      Almost like he is simply following order and the article was dictated to him.
      So Jim this pretty much confirm your theory for me. Wonder what MB would made of this.

    • Encelad says:

      Shocking. We have reached Soviet Union’s levels of rewriting.

      His Wikipedia page looks like a trial for heresy. They basically replaced every research he did with the “claim” that he did said research.

      It reads like this:

      “Robert Malone is a Badthinker.
      During his early career he claims to have done this and that, but being a Badthinker he probably just stole his peers’ work.
      During Covid pandemic Malone claims to have conducted research, but his research was surely wrong since the Holy Council of Peer Review did not approve. He promoted the unholy Horse Paste.
      The next six or seven paragraphs will describe all the bad things he thinks.”

      • jim says:

        Behold the awesome scientific consensus. The inventor of the technology now being misused as a vaccine tells them “this technology is very dangerous if misused, and you are completely misusing it.” Whereupon the scientific consensus goes into action with cancellation, deplatforming, demonetization, and an abrupt rewrite of history.

        Science, our enemies tell us, is on their side. They are the fact based community. They rely on peer reviewed evidence unlike us. Peer review meaning that the peers meet behind closed doors, and decide what the evidence will show.

        And the evidence now shows that Robert Malone did not invent the technology that they are using, and if there are any records to the contrary, they are going to scrub them all clean.

      • Globalist Power Terminated II says:

        These really are mentally sick fuckheads.
        : |

    • Mayflower Sperg says:

      If I’d played any role in the invention of mRNA vaccines, I’d very much want my name erased from the history books. It’s worse than being the guy who invented leaded gasoline.

  52. Shooter McGavin says:

    Lately, I keep seeing more of a particular strand of anthropogenic climate change meme which seems to lack the same kind of immune response that you see against the global warming angle. One doesn’t have to scratch too deep to find denialist rejoinders about global warming but the “animal agriculture is destroying the planet” meme seems to provoke annoyance rather than fully fleshed-out criticism. Everyone is averse to bug-eating and synthetic meat but I cannot seem to find now unemployed scientists who are refuting it quietly online. In a few points the narrative is 1.) that the average prole consumes far too much meat and dairy 2.) that because animal agriculture is resource intensive much of the Amazon rainforest is being wiped out in order to keep up with the demand 3.) that the large volume of urine and feces output acts as a pollutant 4.) that too much water is expended 5.) that too much land is used.

    The second concern is the purpose of the meat holiness spiral. Has the animal liberation faction been revived in a way that is more relevant and powerful with climate change backing? Or is it just for the sake of attacking the big money in meat like it is for those in oil and coal?

    • jim says:

      “lately”?

      It predates anthropogenic global warming.

      For an expose of some of the fake science, see “The big fat surprise”

      There has been plenty of pushback – maybe you are too young to remember it. The pushback was big in its day.

      • Cloudswrest says:

        See also “Fat Head”, https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1333994/

        A documentary response to “Super Size Me” where the protagonist ate Keto from only fast food joints (mostly McDonalds) but eschewed the buns, fries, and sodas, and lost a significant about of weight.

      • Shooter McGavin says:

        I guess I should have put more emphasis on the deforestation bit rather than the nutrition science. Nutrition has like anthropology and sociology always been politically correct lies and I am more familiar with the pushback as far as that goes. Is there just no deforestation happening or is it exaggerated to mythic proportions?

        • jim says:

          The world is massively reforesting, as the climate becomes more benign. Areas formerly too cold for trees are reforesting, areas formerly too dry for trees are reforesting, and areas formerly under agriculture are being abandoned to forests.

          This has little to do with human action or lack thereof. As the climate becomes more favorable, plants crowd each other for sun and air, and the taller plants win.

          Photos from space show that the amount and intensity of green has nearly doubled since satellites went up, which means the plants are now fighting each other and reaching for the sky.

          We have non satellite evidence that this change has been under way since the early eighteen hundreds, so the world is hugely greener. And, of course, in a greener earth, the big beneficiaries are going to be the trees.

          • yewotm8 says:

            I believe there is an anti-white angle to this as well. The lands which are primarily going to become warmer, more inhabitable and more arable are full of evil oppressive Canadians, Norwegians and Russians. So of course that would be a bad thing.

    • suones says:

      Anti-meat signalling seems to be a strange case of convergent evolution among priests. Hindu priests have been waging battle against meat for literally a millennium now, that ebbs and flows with time but never quite ends. I have no idea how Molochite priests came upon it, but the end-result is the same — a docile, physically weak, thus easily manipulated population.

      I hypothesise that as priests’ own memetic power declines, they are unable to assert memetic control to the extent their forbears used to, and then resort to physically influencing their populations to make them easier to control.

      Modern farming has literally brought Kingly food to the table of the average prole, yet they eat grain like animals.

  53. Fireball says:

    A question to Jim. I don’t know if you have answered this in the past if so point me to it.

    What is to be done with social media, smart phones and women?

    • Kunning Druegger says:

      Are you asking what is to be done about the henpeck anti-trinity? In a coup complete situation, women are sandboxed if allowed internet access whatsoever. A man is issued a phone right by the state, and he can clone that right to his women, his children, or his serfs. Spaces for housewives and competent widows need to be created and curated (bitches must be allowed to Considereth) , but I have yet to encounter any compelling evidence that women in general are needed or wanted in programming. If they’d like to use a clone of their husband’s Phone Right to participate on Herspace so they can crow about their status, I don’t really see an issue. If some beta faggot starts fooling around with the girl internet because he can’t get laid IRL, there should be some consequences.

      • Fireball says:

        I am asking about how we burn it all down and make sure we haven’t to deal with it again.

        The combination of social media, smart phones and women is an unmitigated disaster. Women have a access too many men at a push of a bottom. A husband has to compete with a thousand different men that he doesn’t even know it exist.

        About what you said. Why would the state have the right to issue such a right or not? Jim as talked about a true decentralized internet outside of the control of the state. The two don’t look compatible.

        • Kunning Druegger says:

          Well, Jim is a special case Libertarian (he used a term I wasn’t familiar with and can’t recall at this moment, and he can articulate it properly, so apologies if my word choice is deleterious to our dialogue) and I am a Monarchical Perennialist with Jimian Characteristics. The State has whatever right it damn well pleases so long as it has uncontested ability to exert the force to back it up. A wise King and suite of advisors with their enforcement mechanism (the State) would do well to keep the legal overhead low (you may or may not recall that I advocate for a brutally simple law code that is a few pages long, something that could be memorized and orated for a recitation by an 8th grader, and is general) and enforcement simple and swift. Free Speech is a farce; communication must be regulated by the State to protect society from pernicious forces. One of those pernicious forces is unrestrained females. I am far more concerned about broads fucking up sexual selection norms than I am with dissidents and malcontents bitching about His Majesty. So controlling access to the means of constant communication seems like an important thing to keep a handle on.

          I want to be very clear here: I am an authoritarian. I am not a libertarian. My wife says she is a libertarian, which I think is just adorable. But unless I am sleeping with one or dealing with one, I could not possibly care less about the concerns of libertarians.

          • jim says:

            That control, however, needs to exercised by patriarchs, and patriarchs need to be able to communicate and transact without third parties sticking their oar in.

            • Wulfgar Thundercock III says:

              Yes, this is indeed the case. Instead of running a whitelist, there should be a greylist and blacklist. Running a whitelist is a lot more effort than a blacklist. It also violates one of the core principles of paternalistic authoritarianism: that which is not forbidden is permitted. Otherwise known as, “Is Dad going to beat my ass for this?”

          • Fireball says:

            Monarchies aren’t all the same. Medieval kings aren’t the kings of the ancien régime.

          • jim says:

            We want the father and then the husband to be in control of women’s social lives. The state being in control of women’s social lives is likely to lead to problems. The state’s central competence is large scale organized violence. To avoid loss of focus and excessive span of control, small scale defense of small scale property rights needs to be outsourced as far as possible to the owners of those property rights.

            Scaling problems are biting really hard right now.

          • Jehu says:

            I remember a long time ago being called a “Libertarian Fascist”, which is more than a bit of an oxymoron. But it’s an oxymoron that hides a deeper truth.

            Fundamentally what I want is not to have to give a damn what most people think. I would love to be able to live and let live. But to achieve that given what ‘most’ people want would require some hardcore authoritarian action, especially in the area of the country where I’m living.

            Fear me. I want to totally remove your civil rights you damned snowflakes. Then I intend to…leave you the hell alone once sufficient helicopter rides have been given. Of course the problem is the problem is more akin to fighting weeds. The helicopters must always be there even if few require rides.

            • jim says:

              > I remember a long time ago being called a “Libertarian Fascist”, which is more than a bit of an oxymoron. But it’s an oxymoron that hides a deeper truth.

              The deeper truth is that you always have a state religion, and if that state religion tolerates an enemy religion that wants what it has, pretty soon you will have an enemy state religion. Not having a state religion is like not having a King and an army. If you thought your King and his army was bad, wait till you see a foreign King and a foreign army march through.

              As Moldbug said, it is a power vaccuum. He was wrong though, in that there never has at any time been a vacuum, for there are always powerful groups fiercely contending to occupy that space and shoving mightily to push each other out.

            • Neurotoxin says:

              Jehu: “Fundamentally what I want is not to have to give a damn what most people think. I would love to be able to live and let live. “

              Yeah, I’m that guy too. Most of us are, or used to be. But it’s simply not possible, as the last 75 years (or however long) have proven.

              1) Libertarianism is fundamentally an individualist philosophy.

              2) Individualism is not a war-time ideology.

              3) We are always at war.

              An absence of war is not an equilibrium. If everyone is chillaxin’ with their feet up drinking a beer, it’s too easy to attack them. If everyone were like you and me, the whole planet would just chillax. But that’s not the world we live in.

              Just thinking about what these people steal from us almost made me fedpost, so I’ll end this here.

              • jim says:

                Yes. We always have the threat of large scale organized violence, and we have always have the threat of holy war, because people who mind their own business and do the the right thing by their friends, kin, and neighbors are a great big juicy target.

                So, no alternative but to sign up with a leader. And a leader needs a priesthood, so no alternative to the imposition of a state faith. Tolerance of heretics results in the state faith being overthrown, and replaced with a faith like the one we now have, that tolerates no heretics.

              • Neurotoxin says:

                Good links. The second one, What money can’t buy: A leftist is a being so sick, so evil, that when he sees that, his gut-level urge is to attack it.

                There can never be any peace between us and them.

                • jim says:

                  When people were hungry, a leftist could plausibly claim he did not want to kill the cows of the kulak with two cows, he wanted the hungry fed.

                  But now no one is short of bread, and everyone is short of what money cannot buy, leftism is unmistakeably about destroying what money cannot buy.

              • Kunning Druegger says:

                Based on Feser’s paper, libertarianism should just abandon the Neutrality claim and explicitly state that it is a system of governance expressly for the intelligent, the sane, and the fortunate. They won’t do this because they are either just liberals pretending to be something else, or they are carrion baggers who prey on the intelligent, the sane, or the fortunate.

                Bringing this from the realm of the theoretical and into the practical realm, should we consider anyone who claims to be a libertarian an entryist, given that they are probably nothing more than a liberal awaiting activation? I used to be far more tolerant than I am now, and my inclination would be to wait until a party gives a concrete reason to be considered hostile. Now, I am not inclined to wait for an excuse. This may stray too far towards punishing pre-crime. Then again, no victim of violence sanely states, “Well, I’m glad I didn’t overreact before that guy shot me.”

      • i says:

        Must watch out of genuine female Occultists and witches:
        https://younggospelminister.blogspot.com/2022/05/the-transgender-origins-of-feminism.html

        They seek to corrupt the minds of women. And its strange how back in the day why Western Society didn’t actually deal with the Suffragettes properly.

        Theosophy was one Spiritual Mother of Modern feminism in the 1800’s.

        • The Cominator says:

          First wave feminism came from post Christians unitarians etc, dark occultism of various kinds wasn’t (not visibly anyway, you can speculate all you want about the involvement of hidden cults and satanic bloodlines and such behind the scenes) visibly involved with the left until the 1920s at the earliest. And the 1st leftist group backed by them was…

          The National Socialist German Workers Party…

        • The Cominator says:

          I mean honestly how could the Western liberal (in the classic sense ie libertarian) put down the suffragettes if they weren’t even willing to have Karl Marx and Frederick Engels shot?

          The problem was that Western liberal governments were not willing to make the unprincipled exception and murder all leftists. This is ALWAYS the mistake that more freedom oriented governments make.

  54. Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

    Another example of difference; the experience of horrendous conditions in trench life almost all come from the experience of entente troops. The Heer was assiduous in furnishing the livability of fortified positions, whereas on the British and French side trench emplacements were always doctrinally considered ‘temporary measures’ pending the inevitable glorious advance to victory, even when you’ve been squatting in them for months.

    • jim says:

      Pretty sure that is not where it was meant to go.

      Moving it to where I judge best.

    • Red says:

      The Spanish flu was the direct result of those living conditions.

      • Kunning Druegger says:

        It occurs to me that the Spanish Flu is another instance of Alf’s Daemonology Thesis: reality can be modeled accurately by working from the assumptions that demons are real. The sadistic leftists in France summon a demon through protracted blood sacrifice of Catholic men, and it is unleashed upon the world.

        World War One truly needs a comprehensive analysis in volumetric form. That might be the project needed to kick of Restoration Historiography. It is recent enough to be interesting, far enough that it is “dead.” Relatively well documented. Any authors out there dying for subject matter, this is a golden opportunity.

        skippy, if you have the time and inclination, I’d love to hear your detailed summary of WW01. Pre-war included.

        • Adam says:

          Look up the podcast Hardcore History by Dan Carlin. He has a 5 part series on ww1, each part about 3 hours. Very good. It’s just him so it’s a storytelling not a discussion.

          • Kunning Drueger says:

            I’ve gone through it twice. I enjoy his efforts, but his lacing in of Whig history gets tiresome.

          • Red says:

            Dan Carlin is a hardcore progressive selling propaganda. Read a book written about how the Germans fought in WW1, you’ll be shocked how much time they spent trying not to get their troops killed compared of the meat grinder the allies setup for their own men.

  55. Cloudswrest says:

    News says Ivana Trump Just passed away, age 73. Best I can tell from the info it was “sudden adult death syndrome”. She was an athlete and as far as I know, in good health.

    Manhattan paramedics, responding to a call for cardiac arrest, found a 73-year-old woman in the Upper East Side apartment where Ivana Trump lived just after 12:30 p.m. Thursday, according to the FDNY.

    • The Cominator says:

      Well was she vaxxed, some people die in their 70s…

      She was a former model, models like dancers of all kinds while they avoid eating tend to have a lot of other bad habits.

      • Leon says:

        A lot of dancers are drug addicts as well. Helps keep them thin and cover up the pain.

        • i says:

          @Leon

          Their primal brain perceives their occupation as dancer as suboptimal and detrimental.

          I notice the tendency also even in fiction of portraying those types like dancers and prostitutes as smokers and drinkers.

          Like they need pain medication to deal with their lives.

          Whilst wives and mothers are far less likely to do such things.

        • The Cominator says:

          Bad things happen to the ones who are hardcore hard drug addicts a lot earlier than that. That is the failure mode for women in that profession… the other women in it tend to marry out (as Ivana did).

          But as for bad habits chain smoking and being drunk on vodka (some type of booze with no calories) and maybe occasional hard drug use (stims mainly) while living off diet coke + maybe a big meal of junk food once a week…

          That is pretty common.

          “Their primal brain perceives their occupation as dancer as suboptimal and detrimental.”

          Nah they are just absolutely terrified of getting fat (which I wish was more common among American women). Not every model/dancer/whore hates their job besides that.

          • i says:

            “Nah they are just absolutely terrified of getting fat (which I wish was more common among American women). Not every model/dancer/whore hates their job besides that.”

            In that case they should be highly reproductively successful. Ending up as a wife and mother with many children after claimed by a Man.

            If not then evolutionarily speaking it will evolve that way. Because such avenues is a dead end for them.

  56. Kunning Druegger says:

    Reading through Alf’s work (it is quite good, everyone here should read it), as well as the random comments that are appearing on old, old posts thanks to (I assume) Alf’s work, I am forced to interact with Cambodian Rheumatists commentary and it is more interesting than I remember. Not because he is actually smart or anything, but it informs the draconian measures Jim takes with shills and entryists. We don’t need to hear them out, we don’t need to let them have their say, we need not all be concerned with the preparation of that particular sausage.

    This isn’t some profound insight, but it is no longer common knowledge: a good leader makes life better for everyone except the leader. The nature of their position and its duties make life pretty tedious and painful for them. Thus, GNON sweetens the pot with power and status. The Modern Lie, which is really a suite of lies, is broadly proclaiming the desirability and perks of status and power while explicitly denying the necessary tedium and pain. This is relevant to us because, and I am making an assumption here, it seems as if every Reactionary in any sphere either secretly believes or publicly asserts that he is capable of Kingship. This is not shocking: society accidentally raised us to believe we could be anything. Obviously, that messaging was intended for Karen, Kahreem, and k’Shwanda, not Ken, Kevin, or Kyle. But it stuck, and it needs to be de-programmed. With what level seriousness and to what degree, I cannot say. How much of a motivation of possible Kingship was it for nobles in the middle ages? Did the King and Priests always let it be a quiet motivator for nobles who would otherwise not have participated in wars? It might be irrelevant to the era we are in, but there could be some profound insights for motivating elites.

    We are not all King material. We are all Knight material. Fodder that survives the war gets to advance to the next level. Make of that what you will.

    • Karl says:

      Look at the worst king you can find in a history book and then compare to the modern world. Every king would be an improvement, especially a king far far away, which is the usual situation in a monarchy.

      History also suggests that bad kings do not rule all that long. Kings are easy to replace, much easier than a system. The person with the crown doesn’t matter all that much in the long run. What matters is that there is a king and there is generall argeement that there should be a king.

    • Adam says:

      Every tyrant wants to rule so they can finally condition others to serve their needs. When will it all be about me? To be a tyrant, just place all your weight on those around you.

      A good leader serves the needs of his people. To rule well, lift as much weight as you can, so your people can prosper.

      Every overbearing father and mother is a tyrant, conditioning their children to serve their needs. This is a destructive and all consuming process.

      Every good father and mother meets the needs of their children, until they can teach the child to meet their own needs. This is a constructive process.

      Conditioning someone to meet your needs, or your expectations is about the tyrant, taking selfishly for his benefit. Teaching someone something is giving of yourself freely, for the benefit of the student.

      It is hard to meet the needs of someone else, to pay attention to them, to what they are doing, to what is motivating them. To put yourself in their shoes to see what they are seeing and experiencing. You have to do it selflessly, without expectation. It is expensive. Have to have a lot of inner strength, discipline, patience, and have to have faith. It is hard to do good. But, looking at the alternative, the choice to do good should be a decision that makes itself.

  57. Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

    Whenever you wonder about the prospect of the future, of success, of victory, always remember the Uvalde security cam footage; obese ‘agents’ fearfully waddling away whenever the mkultra asset would take wild potshots in their general direction.

    The tiger is made of paper.

    • Anonymous Fake says:

      [*Official history deleted yet again*]

      • jim says:

        Reality is that we have been fighting a the same cohesive enemy priesthood since the Brownist heresy. Our enemies have continuously and cohesively been acting as organized hierarchical priesthood since 1578, preaching, organizing, and practicing aggressive entryism against the state religion since 1578, in the time of Henry the eighth.

        When Henry broke from Roman Catholicism, they smelled power, and now they have conquered the world.

        I smell power, and we will conquer the stars. The difference being that they weaponized lies against truth, and now lies have conquered the world. We are weaponizing truth, which works since their lies are hurting every man by getting in the way of family, sex, and reproduction. Also getting in the way of me getting my wife to clean the house and put out my clothes in the morning. Shit tests diminish in severity, but they never end.

        • Anonymous Fake says:

          I love truth over all things and I can only take limited offense towards open Brownists, though it’s indeed obnoxious how often they change their names. Sometimes I wonder if they think it means they’re trying to change for the better, rather than deceive, but whatever. I can give the benefit of the doubt to the extent I can afford to do so.

          My anger goes towards those who [*who were, like yourself, lied to cheated and harmed, and not to those who lied to, cheated, and harmed you*]

          former students who only want to be treated fairly as compensation for their school work

          [*endlessly repeated program for the great reset, thinly disguised as a right wing program, deleted yet again*]

          • jim says:

            The practical effect of your program, as I have repeatedly pointed out at excessive length, would be the destruction of everyone you hate and everything you hate. And you hate just about everyone and everything. Except those whose evil deserves hatred.

            Because I can see that your writing comes from your own evil heart, rather than mechanically following a script, I felt like letting it through, and engaging it yet again. But that has never been profitable in the past. You don’t debate the autogenocide program, just repeat it, just as CR mechanically repeated communist socialism, no matter what.

            Unlike every other shill ever, you just acknowledged our account of history, albeit in words your supervisor is unlikely to understand. But you read it and understood it.

            I repeat yet again. School work deserves no compensation. Work deserves no compensation. Merit deserves no compensation. Only the creation of value, which requires genuine merit and useful work, deserves compensation. Your program remains unchanged. The priesthood shall take charge of all value, and distribute it as they see fit. The problem with your program is that there will not be any value for them to distribute, but because of your, and their, self destructive hatred, you do not care, and they do not care.

            It is reminiscent of the Global American Empire tactics and strategy in the Ukraine, where their desire for as many Ukrainians as possible to die and their desire for the destruction of Ukraine is getting in the way of their desire to win the war, evil devouring evil in its attempt to devour everyone and everything. You want to destroy everything, including yourself.

            • Anonymous Fake says:

              [*deleted yet again*]

              • jim says:

                Time after time you propose that the priesthood allocate all value, as if value was a pile of plunder waiting to be picked up and distributed, that spontaneously sprang forth from the fertile subsaharan African soil. You hate those who create value, and love those that cheated you, and you repeat this proposal monotonously again and again and again, as if it was a right wing proposal.

                We have a vast oversupply of priests meddling in far too many things. It is time for the dissolution of the monasteries. Ninety nine point nine percent of people currently in lucrative well paid high status priestly jobs, for example academia, HR, law, and ESG accounting, will need to get jobs flipping burgers and greeting at wallmart.

                • someDude says:

                  99.97%, that’s 3-sigma, isn’t it?

                • Travis says:

                  I nice economic depression will result in a great number of highly credentialed burger-flippers.

                  It will be glorious to watch “management” layers sloughed off like a dead snakeskin and the wanna-be priests filling out job applications at Burger King.

                • Globalist Power Terminated II says:

                  Travis, I assume you meant to type something along the lines of: “It’s nice economic depression will…”?

                  It will be glorious to watch “management” layers sloughed off like a dead snakeskin and the wanna-be priests filling out job applications at Burger King.

                  B-B-BASED!

                • The Cominator says:

                  Its not the priesthood that suffers first in economic declines because their jobs are protected by the state.

              • Contaminated NEET says:

                That’s a comforting thought, but is it true? The first Great Depression worked out extremely well for the over-credentialed self-proclaimed “meritocrats”. It was when they seized control of all areas of American life. A new Great Depression might see them begging to flip burgers, or it might see them in high-status well-paid jobs assigning us our pods and setting our insect protein rations. Things could go a lot of different ways. They look weaker now than they have in decades, but they still haven’t lost a political or cultural fight in centuries. We’ll see what happens.

                • The Cominator says:

                  Agree with you on this one, if the priesthood suffered in econo.ic declines they’d have backed Trump.

                • jim says:

                  You are dead wrong. They want everyone starving even if they wind up in a little box on a ration of beetle paste and dried cockroaches. Look at my endless argument with Anonymous Fake. He does not care if there is famine and ruin, provided that everyone with a degree is automatically guaranteed higher status than everyone without a degree. He wants us all to live in public housing in the blue state megalopoli, even if it means that he has to live in public housing also. He wants to live in a little box with no wife and no children provided that I have to live in a little box also. A big part of his plan is that everyone moves to public housing in the blue state megalopoli. He wants to “restore” the middle class – by putting us all in public housing in the blue state megalopoli.

                  Which as an actual member of the middle class, looks to me that his plans to help the middle class resemble the communist party’s plans to help the peasants. Public housing for the middle class! What an enormous benefit🙃 I am sure that is going to be really popular🙃

    • Starman says:

      @Pseudo-Chrysostom

      ”Whenever you wonder about the prospect of the future, of success, of victory, always remember the Uvalde security cam footage; obese ‘agents’ fearfully waddling away whenever the mkultra asset would take wild potshots in their general direction.

      The tiger is made of paper.”

      I remember being castigated by Peppermint for noticing the papier-mâché of the ZOGbot tiger when it backed down after being confronted by a thousand man militia at the Bundy Ranch. The other indicator in the same period was also the fearful panic of the LAPD when a single man, Mr. Dorner, began killing individual cops and their families. Back then, it looked unusual and odd to me.

    • Adam says:

      After a red vs blue popular war in the west, two things would be on the mind of the reds. One, that was easy and two, we should have done that a lot sooner.

      I don’t ever remember a time when I was among blue voters and felt any sense of strength from them. It’s Karens and beta simps from top to bottom. At least as far as current day leftists. When they fight, if they fight they would only be dangerous like a mob or a rabid dog is dangerous.

      • Kunning Druegger says:

        When I consider what the mechanics of a Race War would be, I come to a similar conclusion as to what a Boog would be: Conservative Whites v. Conservative Whites. In the RW scenario, the cities would have some black or brown militancy, but it would in large part be security forces ordered by USG to protect minorities v. “anti-diversity” elements. Same goes for boog, it would be pro-establishment white male conservatives v. anti-establishment white male conservatives.

      • Cloudswrest says:

        Maybe not so easy. I would estimate that more than half of both my immediate and extended family members are “blue” and/or NPCs. I’m sure many of them would be willing to turn in “red” members in time of war.

        • Globalist Power Terminated II says:

          Yeah, I have to agree somewhat here; the consensus during the French revolution was that a government run by starving (religious, let’s be real) fanatics would just collapse before it could become a threat to anyone or anything important.

        • Contaminated NEET says:

          The proggies have all the institutions, and they have a living faith. They have the best propaganda the world has ever seen. A civil war would not be a walk-over for the Right.

          • Starman says:

            @Contaminated NEET

            “The proggies have all the institutions, and they have a living faith [no they don’t]. They have the best propaganda the world has ever seen. A civil war would not be a walk-over for the Right.”

            And the ZOGbot pigs that are supposed to enforce the proggies will, have been revealed to be made out of paper.

            • Kunning Druegger says:

              Do you think they are paper tigers in a material sense, or are they tigers with paper leadership?

              • Starman says:

                @Kunning Druegger

                “Do you think they are paper tigers in a material sense,”

                They are paper tigers in the fact that any organized armed and violent opposition will kick their ass. Which has been made very obvious in Afghanistan and the Ukraine.

                • Kunning Druegger says:

                  What I am trying to pin down is whether or not the security forces in CONUS are actually very capable of violence but they lack violence-capable leadership, or if the whole thing is a paper tiger.

                  I’ve played on hockey teams that had plenty of capability and skill but lacked a good coach. Losing more often than winning, poor practice habits, etc. Once a good coach came on board, suddenly go from losing most games to winning most games. I have also been on teams that just sucked. Didn’t matter how hard individuals worked, how well the coach managed things, we lacked the capabilities to compete.

                • jim says:

                  > What I am trying to pin down is whether or not the security forces in CONUS are actually very capable of violence but they lack violence-capable leadership, or if the whole thing is a paper tiger

                  There are, or recently were, violence capable elements, primarily within the CIA and military intelligence, but they horrifyy and terrify our enemies, who are busily purging them in fear of a coup.

                  Prince and Blackwater were part of that purge, but the purge began before Blackwater was a thing. Having purged men capable of large scale organized violence, people who needed large scale organized violence done hired Blackwater, and then other elements of the Cathedral realized what manner of men were being hired, and purged Blackwater.

                • Wulfgar Thundercock III says:

                  Mostly incapable. I see so many fat cops that the lean or just bulky ones stand out. Then you have FBI agents getting their asses whipped by some random when they raid him because he decided it was best to fight back, and the disaster that was the Afghan withdrawal. You do not rise to the occasion, you fall on your training. What you see when things go wrong is their best. Add that to the fact that that they are running out the most qualified people over covid vaccines or diversity quotas and the limit on the best they could possibly be lowers. So their best is terrible, and the best possible is also terrible.

                  The war faction is Jewish, so they will be willing to fight their enemies to the last American the way we see the last Ukrainians being thrown against the Russian artillery. The military faction would have to overthrow the diversity, covid, and war factions combined in order to fix this. The general staff are political hacks and not warriors, so they will not be a source of reform. It would probably take a field grade officer to have the authority to do it, so absent Col. Stalin, we are looking at a slow decay into anarcho-tyrannical warlordism.

                • Pooch says:

                  Looks to me that Caesar is going to employ a group like Blackwater to march on Rome when the time comes. This mirrors the actual Caesar paying his legions well in land and gold.

                  Which leads to my conclusion that the Civil Wars during the fall of the republic will not be between Left or Right or Democrat or Republican. It will be between billionaires paying outrageous sums to private military contractors.

                • jim says:

                  Other people saw the same thing before you did, and proceeded to eliminate groups like Blackwater.

                • jim says:

                  Unconverged military contractors have been put out of business.

                  What we may hope for is a hastily re-assembled old man’s army, where old teams have a big re-union.

                • Wulfgar Thundercock III says:

                  Pooch, that sounds reasonable, but I’m not so sure if it will be the billionaires. Once IEW really starts to become mainstream, businessmen are going to get kicked out of the arena pretty quickly. They will be what is fought for, not the men in power.

                  If you work for a PMC fighting with a Musk-backed PMC, are you going to dronestrike Musk, or hit your competitor’s CEO and tell Musk that he has to hire you, now? Once a billionaire or two gets wiped out, the rest are probably going to bow out and let the fighting men decide things.

                • jim says:

                  This parallels the first triumvirate.

                  Caesar goes forth on a foreign military adventure to create a team of soldiers personally loyal to himself.

                  Crassus, the rich guy, teams up with politics and military, but everyone goes into military. Five years later, Crassus attempt to imitate Caesar, gets killed. Money continues to matter for five more years, after which soldiers just help themselves, and having something that people seeking power want becomes extremely dangerous.

                  But there were ten years of rich man politics and rich man violence.

                • Wulfgar Thundercock III says:

                  They might have eliminated Blackwater, but they did not eliminate Erik Prince, which is probably what they should have done. The key to Blackwater is Prince. You get rid of Blackwater and not Prince, you get a bunch of rapidly spun up and spun down names for what is essentially just Blackwater over and over. You eliminate Prince, and Blackwater goes with him. Thank God for the stupidity of our enemies. If Prince ever starts hiring, I would join up. For legal reasons, this is a joke.

                • Wulfgar Thundercock III says:

                  But rich guy violence did not involve dronestrikes on the rich guys. The escalation of IEW means that if Trump vs Bezos happens through PMCs, then Bezos is going to die in a precision dronestrike. Pretty soon anyone wanting to play the game of thrones is going to going to do so knowing that he risks getting personally bombed. It will very quickly result in only serious players remaining. I do not think it will take 10 years.

                • jim says:

                  With information epoch warfare, things could go a whole lot faster.

                  But we have not seen information epoch warfare within an advanced country yet. We will likely see it soon. Russia has finally realized it has far too many tanks and mobile artillery, and not nearly enough drones. More drones, and more people capable of directing them, is now the highest priority.

                  But I don’t think lack of drones is what is impairing Russia’s capability to wage information epoch warfare. It is that its military is still stuck in World War I and World War II. But they are starting to wake up.

                • Pooch says:

                  the rest are probably going to bow out and let the fighting men decide things.

                  The current crop of fighting men are very good with guns. Not so good with automated drone strikes yet, because it is very new.

                  It may only be a certain billionaire class (or possibly a single billionaire) that has the means and vision to materialize a new personal fighting army for the 21st century.

                • Wulfgar Thundercock III says:

                  Pooch, that is in line with what I am thinking. If all the billionaires in America decide they want to be Caesar but one of them is competent at IEW, then–as it is in the nature of businessmen to negotiate and compromise–only a very few are going to stay in the game once they realize the stakes. The others might try using GWOT tactics, and find that IEW has rendered that suicide. Operators are smart guys, so they will pick up drones quickly. Again, that leaves a much smaller pool of players who have the personal bravery and competence to actually participate.

                • Kunning Druegger says:

                  The question for me is at what point will CEOs of small to medium security companies realize that a few business agreements and some courage are all that stand between them and being “hired” by governors, big landowners, mega-CEOs, and other capital flush actors to “enhance and maintain security” for a “peace loving and prosperous city/region/state” while they “patiently and optimistically wait” for the federal government to “recalibrate and reconvene.”

                  How many senators or bureau chiefs do you think there are who can watch drone strike footage on CONUS clay, look at their security details with FN small arms and Barracudas and think “Nah, it’ll be fine?” This may be hyperbolic, indeed it sounds so to myself when listening with ears of 2021, but there’s almost nothing standing between a half-PU* or greater actor and taking power over significant regions of CONUS if they have the right patronage.

                  When AFG was falling apart, I was made aware of at least 3 “independent teams” put together on the fly to extract POIs and old friends before the Taliban could score-settle. these were men of relatively modest means but rich in network connections in the Security/PMC ecosystem. There’s obviously many degrees of separation between fast-walking a small team to Kabul while regional logistics firms got air assets in place, but it doesn’t take a military genius to see how a few dedicated, capable men can decisively shift the balance when the Head counting begins in the halls of power.

                  All of this is some fun, hollywood shit to contemplate, but it is all predicated on the USM being a paper tiger full of inept, weak willed leaders and incompetent subordinates. With respect for both Starman and Wulfgar, I’m not buying it, not yet. Too many midgrade officers and lifer-noncoms that just will not let go of the Republic or the Constitution. And we can no longer make the argument that it is happening to “others;” the sheepdogs have been targeted in coronahoax, IVI, and more. At this point, it appears they are going down with the ship, along with a lot of LEOs and Feds. You guys can assert that they are paper til the cows come home. I’ll believe it when I see evidence of SWAT teams, tac teams, and other door kickers disobeying orders or walking off the job. We have yet to see another Bundy/BLM type situation, so I am logging that one as exceptional until proven otherwise.

                  *a single Prince Unit is the measure of a baseline Caesar. Most security companies are at the thousandths or hundredths Prince Unit scale, but there are quite a few quarter PU, half PU, and even PU+ entities out there.

                • jim says:

                  The head count among the late Friends of Clinton is rather high. A power struggle is coming up, and by and by there will be another, and another. It is far from unthinkable that a billionaire with the right connections to the security/PMC ecosystem could think “I could play at that game, and do it a whole lot better”.

                • Wulfgar Thundercock III says:

                  I do not mean a paper tiger in the sense that the fighting men will not show up, I mean a paper tiger in the sense that the fighting men are not worth their salt. If I get raided by a SWAT team, the likelihood is that the entire team gets killed. Maybe they take me with them, but a six to one trade is not one the police can long endure. If some loser faggot with a pump action can minecraft delete three members of an FBI tactical team, I am pretty confident in my odds.

                  They will still kick doors and all that, but when people start shooting back, they will end up in the shit. The US military could not organize a withdrawal from Afghanistan when the other side was not even shooting at them. Think they will do better when the other side is shooting at them and cutting their supply lines? They might be loyal, but that does not mean they are worth anything in a fight.

              • Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

                Factors at every level of the system are paying obesiance to every other level out of inertia, conditioned accustomization, normality. But there is little real power behind any of it any more. A nation occupied by headless chickens, whose rule is so far secured by the fact that the populations they’re ruling over are rendered equally headless chickens.

                The crucial step for a body trapped within the belly of the beast is not going through steps one to twelve, but going from zero to one.

                The prevailing climate is like a bank of fog in early twilight; it appears impenetrable and all pervasive; and yet, also vanishes like morning dew, evaporating to nothing in the blink of an eye, ere the moment any sunlight comes shining down.

                • Red says:

                  Hard to really know for sure until it’s put to the test. But if it proves as weak as you describe, the first person to test it might well end up a king.

                • Kunning Druegger says:

                  First mover advantage is really tricky. As I think on it, when does the first mover ever win in the end? Isn’t it normally the guy or guys that follow the first mover and avoid the unknown pitfalls that appear after the paradigm begins to shift?

                  The big problem for any would be Caesar is that they must actually believe they have a shot at running the table, be smart enough to know that no thing is certain, and wily enough to say “damn the torpedos.” Consider the case of Trump. His failure to cross the Rubicon doomed anyone else that might try to take the populist path to power. Though it may be the case that the Cathedral is incapable of mitigating the exploit due to increasing ubiquity of incompetence.

                  I know Yarvin is inferior to Moldbug, but something he wrote about in Gray Mirror seems pretty accurate to me: the Restoration Project is akin to launching a satellite into space in that it must be done exactly right at the right time and to completion. Anything less is a failure. Building the rocket, ensconcing the payload, lifting the orbiter, and injecting the payload into orbit. No points if you don’t hit every mark. On the other side, the Cathedral side, they have a million opportunities to recover from, it would same, any size mistake. Consider the incompetence on display the last 6 years. Consider the egregious violations and overreactions. They keep making irreversible errors, yet they carry on being in control.

                  I genuinely hope St. John’s fog metaphor is as correct as it is elegant.

                • jim says:

                  No it does not have a million opportunities to recover. It is running on normality bias, while fast boiling the frog that formerly was slow boiling. Turning the schools into gay brothels is seriously over the top, as is cracking down on oil and food production. When something goes wrong, as for example Trump, it takes extraordinary measures that dispel the normality bias.

                  It depends on violent men with guns, whom it hates and who hate it. Those men are held in place by the rapidly fading myth of the Republic

                • jim says:

                  Sulla and Suharto were successful first movers.

                  “First” is hard to define, since there is usually a long slow series of steps of escalating illegality and violence. The winner is the man who sees where all this is heading and goes directly to the end. Maximum violence, zero pretense at legality.

                  Which despite the phrase “cross the Rubicon” is not how Julius Caesar played it. It is not even how Caesar Augustus played it, until things had been going for a while.

                • Mister Grumpus says:

                  This is what I was trying to get at above.

                  Could this time “be different” because there are people, like us, openly talking about this process, making accurate predictions, and openly showing how someone can “Get To Be the Stalin” if they move first now?

                  Or rather, is there nothing in Jimmian Discourse that Machiavelli didn’t cover himself?

                  But examples matter. All that ancient stuff is nice to the historian, but the 20th century alone puts so much more meat on the theoretical bones, making this material much more palatable and interesting.

                  “Are you power hungry, but also want to survive? Well here is your cookbook. Here are the resources and tools at your disposal, and here is how you use them.”

                  Jim’s Rules for Radical Reactionaries

            • Contaminated NEET says:

              You don’t sacrifice your son’s genitals for a creed if you’re just going through the motions.

              • Starman says:

                @Contaminated NEET

                “You don’t sacrifice your son’s genitals for a creed if you’re just going through the motions.”

                These paper tigers don’t give a shit about other people. The so-called “Covid Demon” was revealed to be a dying religion when they took their masks off whenever they thought the cameras were turned off.

                An organized armed and violent attack on them will break them. As it is beginning to show in Ukraine, and as it was shown in Afghanistan.

              • jim says:

                They are sacrificing other people’s sons

          • Pooch says:

            A Civil War is not going to be “Left vs Right” or “Democrats vs Republicans” or any other such nonsense. That’s not a catalyst for civil war. That can be justification after it starts, but not a catalyst.

            Any upcoming Civil War is going to be Caesar vs Pompey, the winner being crowned King, which very well may be fought between factions of billionaires.

          • jim says:

            Their propaganda is terrible.

            They have the loudest loudspeakers the world has ever seen. Not the same thing at all.

            • Contaminated NEET says:

              You don’t like their propaganda, but it works, and I see it working. I regularly see intelligent men passionately discussing The Boys or Halo 3 or Peacemaker or Vice News, and I see it shaping their values and opinions.

              • jim says:

                It works because they have the loudspeaker and do not allow any contrary opinions. It is crappy propaganda. In any half equal contest, we easily beat them. The left cannot meme. Look at the comments sections, which they keep shutting down. They get ratioed.

                A you tube video carrrying heavy handed propaganda is pushed, and presumably everyone watching it is a normie who consumes whatever the authorities push, and it still gets ratioed in the comments.

              • Wulfgar Thundercock III says:

                No one pays any attention to Vice. They are the internet equivalent of the book that you keep on your coffee table as a conversation piece. The rest of the media you highlighted are the most masculine outlets men have. A bunch of normal people fighting powerful and wicked superhumans, a human fighting an insane religious cult trying to destroy the galaxy, and an anti-hero that has to fight aliens invading and taking over people to destroy humanity.

                You chose Halo 3, but that game came out a decade ago. The most recent game is Halo 6, and the most recent media was the Halo TV show. How did people react to the TV show? Why did you skip over that? You like your doom and gloom a little too much.

                • Wulfgar Thundercock III says:

                  I mean, thinking of it, the only TV shows that do well are where a masculine hero and his band fights a Cathedral analogue. That is not a great position to be in. If I were a king and the most popular TV shows were all about lords and peasants committing regicide, I would recognize I have a problem.

                • Cataclysm Reawake says:

                  “the only TV shows that do well are where a masculine hero and his band fights a Cathedral analogue”

                  Interesting theory, whitepilling if true. Do you have any examples in mind? Maybe a poor one, but the first thing that came to mine was Law Abiding Citizen.

              • alf says:

                Yes I too am annoyed by otherwise intelligent men going ‘yes the boys is great, it’s what would happen if normal people got superpowers!’ Sewer culture.

                But let them have their cringe. We must have faith in the power of our memes, faith in God who is on our side. They may have the loudspeakers, but we are the cool kids.

                • Kunning Druegger says:

                  Check this show out:

                  https://gaxed.com/tv/the-terminal-list-83968

                  The Terminal List. Passion project by Chris Pratt. Red meat for the warmonger class, chock full of Cathedral memes; diverse and savvy immigrant FBI, female US Marshals, lady soldiers, and Amerimutts everywhere. Also, every bad guy is a successful white male or conservative. Sounds like shit, right? Well, it did something to piss off the critic class. Google the name and filter for articles, and the hate is poured on so thick it’s almost subtle. I’m watching the show, trying to figure out why the Voice is sounding off against it. Maybe the final villain is a tranny gorging on little boy genitals or something? Maybe it’s just because Pratt was kind of positive about Trump and made the unpardonable sin of admitting to being a Christian. Whatever the case, pop culture is on track to bifurcate. Top Gun, now this show. They are making money and they are being told they are unholy.

                  Food for thought.

                  By the by, Alf. I have a few pages of edits for you…

                • Guy says:

                  I think because it’s loosely based on the idea that Obama offed Seal Team 6

                • alf says:

                  By the by, Alf. I have a few pages of edits for you…

                  Love to have them. Do you have a working email yet?

                • Kunning Druegger says:

                  I do. Send me an email here: rikipa5970@runfons.com

      • someDude says:

        Very bad reasoning here. The power of the blue comes from their ability to not allow even the thought of war arise in the mind of the reds. This has always been their power and always will be.

        Same as the power of women is to get men to fight other men on their behalf.

      • Varna says:

        BTW, when did “red” and “blue” in the US become the reverse compared to the rest of the world?

        Everywhere else the red color is associated with commies and socialists and blue with conservatives.

        Was it always like this? Or did a switch happen at some point? If a switch — a natural one, or an enforced one?

  58. Kunning Druegger says:

    https://stormer-daily.rw/ appears to be down.

    • jim says:

      Up for me.

      It is armored, I am armored, you are probably not.

      • Kunning Drueger says:

        Hmm. Working now. Wonder if it was an attack. Got timeouts earlier today, then got rerouted by the cloudflare-esque service he uses.

        Can you point me in a specific direction to learn about becoming armored?

        • jim says:

          You need to control what IP you appear as, and you need to control what DNS resolver you are using.

  59. Basil says:

    In general, one of my … friend, recently dragged a girl of fourteen into the cave. She is from a full-fledged family (parents are not divorced, her father is not a cuckold, her mother is significantly younger than him, she has two siblings, a normal income, very good academic success), so one could expect that she was a virgin, but as it turned out later, it was not. This is not the first time this has happened to my friend. And this friend crosses the line, because the connections themselves are criminal, even if neither the girl, nor her parents, nor someone from the environment starts screaming about “violence”, because the sexually mature girl cannot give consent. This is disappointing. Seriously? Has she already had someone? How deep is it to dig down, risking that the mine will collapse on his head?

    • The Cominator says:

      Assuming this is not a shill post…

      The problem with fucking jailbait is once you do it the jailbait owns you if she has any identifying information… and women tend to lash out if they think you’ve lost your alpha cred… but its hard to keep your alpha cred with a woman who can so easily destroy you.

      Also if her father finds out you fucked his precious pumpkin (no matter how big a sl00t his precious pumpkin is) hes going to be prone to report you. Girls mothers my understanding tend to be more inclined to let their teenage daughters do anything they want when it comes to sex and not interfere.

      • Varna says:

        > Girls mothers my understanding tend to be more inclined to let their teenage daughters do anything they want when it comes to sex and not interfere.

        The literally school them in slutty behavior, buy them slutty clothes, and throw them looks of pride and approval. Dad strains a grin red in the face and tries to think of sports ball.

        • The Cominator says:

          My point is that you are (even if she screams bloody murder at you because shes a woman and women can’t resist a chance for high drama) far less likely to be reported by the girls mother for “statutory”.

          And without arranged marriages early trying to teach girls to be pure is futile and makes it more likely she ends up some fat feminist dyke Karen. A slut is better than a Karen. Sluts can be redeemed, Karen’s ought to be burned as witches.

          • Neofugue says:

            > My point is that you are…far less likely to be reported by the girls mother for “statutory”.

            “Paging Dr. Phil, I slept with a guy over twice my age, and then turned him in!”

            When looking at statutory rape charges not involving non-whites or homosexuals, it is always the mother or friend who rats the guy out, never the girl herself. Other than that aspect, no more or less dangerous than going after a girl of “legal age.”

          • Basil says:

            [*blaming men for female misconduct deleted*]

            • jim says:

              We have heard it all before.

              The problem can only be solved by imposing female chastity. Male chastity consists of respecting other men’s property rights in female sexual, reproductive, and domestic services. If no male property rights, nothing to respect. Female chastity is respect for their owner’s property rights.

              • Basil says:

                [*deleted for presupposing universal uncontroversial acceptance of blue pill morality*]

                • jim says:

                  I have repeatedly endorsed the stern old testament position on sex and family law, and the almost as stern old Anglo Saxon position on sexual morality, and the commenters on right wing forums seems to generally agree.

                  Argue against the position I take, not against the position you guys invent for us.

      • jim says:

        > The problem with fucking jailbait is once you do it the jailbait owns you

        Somehow it does not work out like that. Reflect that most chicks start banging way earlier than they admit to. And most of them are doing it with considerably older men. How many jailbait charges ensue? And when they do ensue, it is always some blue pilled man being punished for failing his shit tests.

        You are too fearful. Everyone is getting away with it.

        Your mental frame is that you are weak and women will oppress you. Which frame is self fulfilling.

        • The Cominator says:

          If not with the local Chad’s in their high school it is often with people like their older drug dealers… the movie “thirteen” comes to mind…

        • Fireball says:

          Sometimes it works like that. Even emperors had problem with women.

          An there is always the problem of the father have some influence and power and the little bitch starting problems for the fun of it.

        • Basil says:

          [*blaming men for female misconduct deleted*]

        • Jim's A Dumbass says:

          >Somehow it does not work out like that.

          Somehow it has worked out like that in half a dozen cases that I know of in the past few years, including one that got some mainstream publicity (the stepson of Rob Balder, the Erfworld webcomic author, killed himself after his underage girlfriend ratted him out and the school and local PD landed on him with all the sex crime charges they could think of).

          Once again, Jim talks out his ass and says the exact opposite of the verifiable truth. Protip: whenever Jim says “somehow” or “strangely” or “mysteriously”, the truth is the opposite of whatever he is claiming.

          • jim says:

            All around me I see nine year old girls going at it like weasels in heat, and you are talking about someone you read about in the news who was related to someone whom we might barely have heard of.

            That is as close to “never happens” as makes no difference.

          • Kunning Druegger says:

            This faggot has a cube down the way from our Marxian shillettes. I’m not giving Vlady the 0.02$, but his anger laced screed was a work of art and I’m so glad you let it through Jim.

          • The Cominator says:

            Plenty of thugs and drug dealers get away with it all the time… guys who are respectable otherwise who do it I don’t see the risk as all that trivial.

            I also never saw too much acting out from girls at 9 years old really (at least not in a serious way) but it happens in a big way 12-13-14. Girls start running about at night drinking, smoking, drugs and getting themselves railed around those ages generally. Maybe happens earlier in some cases but its rarer.

            • jim says:

              It often enough gets sufficiently serious that a fair bit of discipline is required. But at nine, they are likely to comply with that discipline if applied firmly and vigorously. At twelve, thirteen, and fourteen, resistance and evasion becomes more serious.

              And single mums just do not apply any discipline or restraint at any age.

      • Neofugue says:

        Before the Feds murdered them, did any of the young girls getting married in the Waco cult rat on their husbands?

        The problem with going after underage girls is not banging them, it is keeping them. If you take advantage of their innocence and learn basic game, even a sperg can appear to be alpha. Keeping them, on the other hand, is a bit trickier, especially if their parents want them to be whores, but if resolved on a case-by-case basis…

      • Adam says:

        I don’t know man, my wife always came down hard on our girls for clothing, friends, attitude etc. Our oldest girl was the most ambitious, and when her friends were getting drunk and fucking their boyfriends, and generally acting like ferel beasts, my wife was keeping her home and going on and on about chastity and separating herself from those girls, saving herself for marriage. Did a great job of it too.

        Not a lot of women like that these days obviously, but it’s not inherent in females to turn their daughters into whores.

        • Fireball says:

          Would have you come down hard on your wife if she have done the opposite?

          • Adam says:

            Not sure. I set the dress code, and the standard for behavior. They were always going to behave around me, dress and act appropriate. You never really know what’s going on when your not around though.

            I had considerable experience with women when I met my wife, and I was raised in an unusually red-pilling environment. A big part of my decision to marry her was based on her experience with kids (large family). I knew she would make an excellent mother.

            • Fireball says:

              There is always a distribution curve to this things and assuming american middle class she coming from a large family probably says a lot how she was raised and how her father did things.

              And you are older so that probably helped. Many of the checks of the past are gone. We are getting so much raw female sexuality that even red pilled guys are having trouble coping with it.

              • Adam says:

                Middle class. Upper Midwest small town, one stop light in 50 square miles small. All white. Lots of religion. Plenty of female misconduct, but nothing like today. Teen girls were still slutty 25 years ago, but men were also still feared to some extent, and almost exclusively occupied positions of authority. Where we grew up anyway. Less so today.

  60. onyomi says:

    And they are prepping NYC for a nuclear strike now of all times because…?

    https://twitter.com/chriswtburke/status/1546553679402205185

    • The Cominator says:

      They probably really are going to get us nuked…

      • Fireball says:

        Honest stupid question. Would the GAE elite nuke one of their core cites for a excuse to nuke the infidels?

        • The Cominator says:

          Jim Jones was a radical leftist who believed in Christ the gay racism hating social worker…

          So what do you think?

          • Fireball says:

            I think i should go live in the hinterlands.

            • Cataclysm Reawake says:

              I hope to see you there. Moved here a month ago and only now do I realize what a resentful and unhappy man living in the city turned me into, treating every sidewalk passerby as a threat and being treated as one in turn. Anyone that lives in the city for any reason other than to make money is mad, and possibly the money maker too, “for what doth it profit a man…”

    • Ghost says:

      If its a real attack, DC/Pentagon area will be first followed by Site-R and Cheyenne Mt.

      If false flag internal attack, some random city in a red state like Omaha.

      At this point there are 100% chance of Russian and Chinese subs with nukes parked within 10 miles off shore everywhere.

      There is also 100% chance politicians and military are psycho enough to false flag the US.

      • The Cominator says:

        If they false flag a red state city there is only one urban area that is actually redder in voting/politics than its surrounding suburbs… Miami.

      • The Cominator says:

        No there are more sprawlish cities with lack of a center that apparently vote Republican… Dallas and Oklahoma city are like this. But I’m merely saying in Miami the urban center part is more right wing than the surrounding areas (which tended to be leftist though recently it may have changed).

    • Kunning Drueger says:

      “Nuking” a city does not destroy the city. A cluster of nuclear devices in a concentric pattern would be required. Remember, movie editors use software that takes Tsar Bomba/Ivy Mike imagery as the template because it is so dramatic and evocative. The former was 50 megatons, the latter 15. The former was barely able to be flown by a specially retrofitted aircraft, the latter was built in place.

      MIRV delivered devices are much smaller. This is not to say that a 30 kiloton device wouldn’t be devastating, or that a full blown nuclear exchange would be a walk in the park. But with the doubt about the efficacy of many devices due to lack of testing, as well as the defense infrastructure in place, we shouldn’t use Cold War thinking or theorizing as the predicate for what might happen. I posted a comment back in March or April with some thoughts on a false flag. I tended toward Ghost’s Middle America Targeting thesis. Now, seeing things unfold, not so sure.

      The USG is a nightmare of overlapping turf with a wide range of competencies vested in a disarray of characters. Contrary to our usual commentary, there are highly capable, highly skilled people in USG. But they are rarely in power, or if in power, rarely powerful. The sub-bureaucracy at department of whatever almost certainly has a guru that they malign and abuse until they desperately need him to save their bacon, or so goes the usual pattern. In a massive crisis, we should expect to see massive hand washing and finger pointing while a desperate few actually try to respond adequately, followed by a crowd of power hungry credit stealers if things work out, and power mad warlords if things don’t.

      Another aspect of USG is the idea of “core competencies.” This concept pervades all of the bureaucracy. It’s a metameme in USG. If we use recent history as our guide, I posit that a chemical or biological attack is more likely than a nuclear attack when considering false/black flag attacks, based on the Core Competencies concept.

      If we’re going to be hit from outside, we have to game out how competent our “adversary” is, and we have to further postulate what their intended goal is. If they’re competent, they’ll want to leave the DC swamp in place, but neuter it, thereby giving competing power centers the impression of opportunity while maintaining the traditional power center, thereby increasing confusion and lack of unity. I base this on the fact that only the Gaia worship faction seems to want hundreds of millions of human sacrifices. If the goal is to remove the USM from the equation, the only realistic method is to divide the country so thoroughly that the USM has no choice but to turtle up and wait for new leadership, or race homeward to “help” reinstate order. The last thing you’d want is for the USM to be unified in purpose and unencumbered by a retarded, internally opposed bureaucracy. Attacking DC, or hitting a bunch of USM bases, would probably create a lot more unity and cut through a bunch of red tape and stupid rules.

      A false flag attack would be intended to consolidate power/purpose/loyalty, and an external attack would be intended to disperse power, diversify purpose, and annihilate loyalty. In both cases, efficacy of the Plan/Strategy becomes very critical. If Covid19 was a biological attack on humankind initiated by GAE Elites, we should expect the next attack to iterate off of it. We know that Russia attacked Ukraine with a specific set of goals, though their tactics were inadequate to the task. Therefore, if they pursue a First Strike methodology, my expectation would be that they swing the pendulum in the opposite direction.

      If it’s an insider attack, it will be targeted at the suburbs. If it’s an external attack, it will be targeted at The Suburbs.

      • Neurotoxin says:

        I think you’re overthinking this. If I were China or Russia, I’d nuke DC first because that’s the location of most of my US enemies who (1) want a war with me, and (2) have the power to prosecute such a war.

        • Kunning Druegger says:

          Just as democracy is an artifice, so to is the capital city. Hitting DC would leave the IC unencumbered by the clutter of the Executive, Legislative, and Judicial. Further, it would be an emotional and visceral cudgel with which to beat dissenters into position behind the Righteous Patriotic Revenge narrative.

          I don’t know how to be any more explicit about this without listing zip codes, but the IC is not in DC. They have satellite offices there, but the whole leviathan was born during the cold war, so the largely ceremonial centralization that is a feature of classical government is not a thing with them.

          • Neurotoxin says:

            There’s no reason they can’t hit other targets also. (For example, I suspect that one you have in mind rhymes with “spangly.”) But hitting DC takes out an immense amount of the people they need to be gone.

            • Kunning Drueger says:

              Technical disagree based on personal experience, but I’m not going to fight you on it.

          • jim says:

            supposing one nuke on each physical IC office that has an official, open, and known location, how many nukes would that require and what would be your wild assed guess of how effective that would be?

            The fact that I am asking the questions suggests that the answer is “not very effective”, or that that will very shortly become the answer.

            • Kunning Drueger says:

              Using an in browser modeler, my proposed decapitation strike would be 4 1mt in a relatively small area. I wrote a much longer, more detailed comment, but deleted it.

              I’m not that smart. RF has a lot more skin in the game than us. Why risk a proportional response with a massive barrage when a 4 warhead salvo wipes out the real enemy?

  61. Globalist Power Terminated II says:

    > https://twitter.com/1Fubar/status/1546011282306138112
    When a 1956 fridge is better than the one you just bought…🤔

    Someone twitter posted a video of a mid-20th century ad for a refrigerator, and it’s such a red pill. Simple photos and videos from the past are the just biggest red pill these days.

    And ayo that refrigerator isn’t the only fine thing in the video. 😉

    • alf says:

      I do wonder about its power usage. Otherwise, prettier than most modern fridges.

    • Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1OfxlSG6q5Y

      Quality is ultimately a spiritual factor; appliances today – like many things today – are shitty not merely because of lacking in any instrumental means, but because of lacking in mindset that sees any value in pursuing such ends in the first place.

      • Rux says:

        Succinctly stated. Unfeigned appreciation of anything of even middling value is at a startlingly low point. Workable but short-lived solutions passed off de rigueur to a people who have no idea who their fathers are.

  62. skippy says:

    protonmail is an increasingly obvious scam/honeypot.

    What should we be using instead?

    • jim says:

      Any free service has to make money. If it is free, you are the product. They are collecting and selling your data.

      So, a paid service that takes cryptocurrency:

      But how do you know that such a service is not run by entryists?

      Countermail used to be good, but is starting to smell mighty funny.

      The people who wrote the StartMail white paper are genuinely concerned about securing the client’s privacy, thinking about in ways a fake service would not. Which does not mean that the people who wound up running it are genuine, but the rest of them just say “don’t worry your pretty little head, we will do the right thing”. The people who wrote the white paper are aware that protecting privacy is hard, something of which most services that claim to protect privacy and charge you for it are blissfully unaware.

      cyberfear, and riseup, however, run as a tor service, and therefore cannot know your real identity to leak it.

      Unfortunately, tor is in the pocket of the nsa, so though they do not know your true identity, the nsa does.

      riseup.net vpn service supports only openvpn, which is known to be backdoored, and fails to support wireguard. That is a big red flag. Any vpn service that fails to support wireguard is a scam, if their vpn service a scam, likely their email service is a scam. People have detected malware in their vpn client, which means that you not only get a vpn service that fails to provide the best security, but you are probably downloading something that will search your computer for interesting data, and monitor your activity.

      If a vpn service is protecting you from spying, rather than actively spying on you, why should they insist on you downloading their custom client? A custom client is a whole lot of work. Why bother? Use a standard client, and just download the data file that configures it for their service. Multiple very big red flags around their vpn service.

      Unspyable offers the good stuff, and offers it for crypto currency, but they are expensive, and you still have to trust them. But the software they are using, and the way they have configured it, is consistent with them doing what they claim to be doing. But there is nothing stopping them from reading all your emails and all your vpn communications and selling the data.

      • skippy says:

        Thank you for the detailed reply.

        What do you think about self-hosting email?

        • jim says:

          Obviously I self host my email – except for communications where I want to feed the enemy shit. I have several self hosted email sites, and several wireguard vpn hosts. Plus I use other people’s wireguard vpns as well.

  63. Kunning Druegger says:

    Sorry to re-share, but I think this is a very informative mine of information:

    https://youtu.be/nwK_XLFOm_I

    Erik Prince being interviewed by some guy. The lunk head doing the interview is actually great, because he keeps his mouth shut and asks good questions. The whole thing is 03:42:36 so obviously a big time commitment, but the topics are all interesting if you are interested in GWoT, PMCs, DoD, and the Fringe Elite. If you can, watch the whole thing. Prince is the American Caesar, and this video proves it. He is not perfect, and his latent patriotism is a glaring issue, but he is on point in almost every category except muh constitution. In the triumvirate that will never be, it is Desantis/Musk/Prince. I know it’s impossible, but just convening a panel discussion with these 3 men would break democracy.

    Points of specific interest:

    02:28:09 – 02:54:44 : Prince talks about his plans for ending the AFG police action. He recommended installing a “Viceroy” and explicitly states that he modeled his plan after the British East India Company.

    00:40:00 – 00:55:39 : Building his PMC

    02:15:16 – 02:22:36 : Domestic politics and the distributed bureaucracy

    • alf says:

      I don’t know where you get the time and energy to track all this…

      But yeah I’m slowly working through it, it’s good stuff.

      • Kunning Druegger says:

        Im an intel officer with no agency.

        • alf says:

          Haha so it seems

          • Kunning Druegger says:

            Both you and Anglin made me cry today.

            It’s ok to cry, no one was around to see it.

            Both of you snuck up on me and just held up a mirror, a bit of tricky glass.

            Forced by the words of good and honest men to look at the twisted visage portrayed, I had no choice but to feel, to let it slip for just a moment, that mask we all make because we must… then went back to my day, renewed but a bit tired, recharged but a bit banged up.

            I taught my son a lesson today.

            I explained in carefully chosen phrases.

            I demonstrated with simple deeds.

            I showed and told him: Son, when you step outside to do man things, you take what you need, you focus on what needs doing, you do what must be done, then you get home quick.

            When we got home, as I helped him from the truck, he said: Dad, can we do it again?

            I told him to get his butt inside, thumped him hard so he yelped and ran.

            Three good, honest men made me cry today. They all looked a bit like me.

    • A2 says:

      Excellent so far. Well worth the time.

    • Mr.P says:

      ~ 01:17 – a great line and observation: “… security, a big driver of revenue and sadly a big driver of problems. One of my biggest regrets is ever going to work for the State Deptment.”

    • alf says:

      two hours in, great stuff. Yes Erik Prince is literally the Caesar we are looking for. Peak male performance — just get it done. Which is of course why they threw everything at him. It’s like if Caesar were about to invade Gaul and the senate would be like: ‘sry Caesar actually we’re going to indict you on grounds of this here illegal spear purchase.’

      • The Cominator says:

        I’ve always said given his military background, views aligned with us, wealth etc he would be the best candidate if only he entered politics.

    • Cloudswrest says:

      “Father of 12”!!!!! Cowabunga!! The dude oozes alpha masculinity!

      • Cloudswrest says:

        Although he mentions a “double sized ‘Brady Bunch’ situation”. Wiki says 7 kids so probably 7+5.

    • alf says:

      Nearing the end. I find the latter part disappointing. His take from ‘election outcomes matter’ onwards is rather boilerplate boomercon. Stuff like ‘why are we rotating all our military thirty times over?’ and ‘why don’t we have one guy in charge of Afghanistan?’ He chalks it up to incompetence.

      No, it’s the intended outcome. It’s what priests do when they intend loot a country and don’t want warriors to interfere. The mere fact that they destroyed blackwater ought to prove that they are not as incompetent as Prince makes them out to be. He barely realizes that his real enemies are at home, not in China or Iran.

      • someDude says:

        And thats the power of the priest. He prevents even the germ of the idea from forming in the warrior’s mind that his enemies are at home and among the priests.

        Red says, If there is a war between priests and Warriors, the warriors will win in a Canter. To which the real response is, IF.

        The priests power is in preventing that IF from happening.

        • Globalist Power Terminated II says:

          alf said:

          He barely realizes that his real enemies are at home, not in China or Iran.

          and someDude said:

          And thats the power of the priest. He prevents even the germ of the idea from forming in the warrior’s mind that his enemies are at home and among the priests.

          Some valuable points shared here, but I think it is very likely that Erik Prince was/is hiding his power level.

          • jim says:

            I can read people better than some, and it was apparent to me that Prince knows what is up. But, he is speaking under his own name, and is at major risk of being Epsteined, so had to guard his tongue.

            • alf says:

              But you have a tendency to judge people smarter than they turn out to be.

              If Prince knew what was up, he’d be dropping hints. I’m not seeing him drop any hints.

              I think Prince is seeing a lot of dots, but has not connected them. He’s the type of guy who is perfectly able to connect those dots, just has not done so.

              • jim says:

                Possibly. But no one speaks the truth under his own name. You expect him to connect those dots in public?

                • someDude says:

                  Agreed, he can’t connect those dots in public. But that just leaves all of us in a state of Ambivalence. If we can figure out what Prince is really up to, so can those of his enemies who interact with him now and then and they’ll Epstein him then.

                  So, this can’t be known until the rubber hits the road. The way we couldn’t know whether Trump had it in him or not until Jan 6 happened.

                • alf says:

                  Of which the heart is full, the mouth overflows. His mouth overflows with a belief in the legitimacy of the Global American Empire. Perhaps he is playing 4D chess, but I’m going with Occam’s razor on this one.

                • Milosevic says:

                  I agree with Alf, Prince is completely ideologically captured. Listening to him talk about Taiwan and Russia is painful. He has been castrated by the left and is a spent force.

                  Beginning to be convinced the most probable outcome at moment is a Stalin.

              • someDude says:

                If we can grasp these hints from so far away, pretty sure some of his enemies who are much closer to him can figure it out as well and then he’s toast.

                I think it is not given us to know this unless we can reduce the distance between our persons and Prince.

                • alf says:

                  The problem with the Straussian argument, in which every smart man purposely does not speak the truth, is that it becomes very easy to imagine that every smart man privately thinks the truth. Does not have to be so.

                • jim says:

                  True.

                  But I am good at hearing what cannot be said. This is a man who knows that plain speaking will get him killed, which would suggest, though it does not prove, he also knows lots of other things.

                • alf says:

                  Finished the interview, thoroughly unimpressed with Erik ‘normalcy bias’ Prince.

                  I too like to think I have some knack for figuring out people. So I’ll finalize my case for why it’s copium to think Prince is plotting to be Caesar.

                  What we’re looking for is people Who Just Get It. Prince Does Not Get It. Take his thirty minute rant on Afghanistan. It’s a dumb rant. Not because he’s wrong, but because anyone Who Just Gets It will just shrug his shoulders and say: duh, the only reason we’re in Afghanistan is to teach seven year old girls how to put condoms on bananas. What’d you expect? But instead, Prince is genuinely bewildered by US military incompetence, and is still processing it as he rants.

                  Many more such examples. He thinks that following hyperinflation, Washington ‘needs to go on a diet, which will be tough on the short term, good on the longterm’. Nope, the whole thing is coming apart. He thinks that ‘the United States and the constitutional government we live under is still the greatest form on government on earth’. Yeah I think Ron Paul had his chance.

                  I mean, c’mon. This is not a guy Who Gets It pretending extremely well to Not Get It. This is just a guy who does not get it.

                  The sad thing is of course that you can easily imagine him getting it. I’m sure that if someone he trusted would sit down with him, explain the core of what is going on and what needs to happen, he could pivot in a few months. So here’s an objective-driven hail mary: if we have any military guys, with any solid connections to Erik, how bout dropping a hint or two…

                • Red says:

                  But I am good at hearing what cannot be said. This is a man who knows that plain speaking will get him killed, which would suggest, though it does not prove, he also knows lots of other things.

                  With all due respect, I don’t think you’re very good at identifying people who are on our side or who know the score. You were wrong about Trump, ACB, you were very wrong about AG Barr, you were wrong about Jeff Sessions, Pence, etc.

                  This isn’t to knock you, but it’s very hard to tell what people really believe unless you get drunk with them and they let the truth slip.

                  I mean, c’mon. This is not a guy Who Gets It pretending extremely well to Not Get It. This is just a guy who does not get it.

                  People close to power have a vested interest in continuing to believe the collective delusion that is the Global American Empire. They fool themselves because anything else is unthinkable so the delusion must be right despite all the hard evidence staring people in the face.

      • Kunning Druegger says:

        Hey Alf, hit me here: rikipa5970@runfons.com

  64. onyomi says:

    This seems like the most normy-friendly way to keep Trump out of the White House, and is probably what most are pinning their hopes on for the time being:

    https://twitter.com/Steve_Sailer/status/1546870371088969728

    • A2 says:

      In essence a bit of legal trickery by the establishment to disqualify Trump from running. Will the people take it though? (Not rhetorical.)

  65. restitutor_orbis says:

    Gentlemen – A colleague of mine working for RAND recently recommended the RUSI report “Ukraine at War” as the most accurate assessment of the Russo-Ukraine war to date.

    https://rusi.org/explore-our-research/publications/special-resources/ukraine-war-paving-road-survival-victory

    Having read it, the report asserts that (1) Russia is now winning the war; (2) Russia is using UAVs to control artillery with devastating effect; (3) Ukraine’s UAVs have a life span of less than 7 days because of Russian ability to destroy them; (4) Russia’s Iskander cruise missile is highly effective and that the US is lying about it being inaccurate; and (5) Ukraine will lose if the West doesn’t greatly increase the aid its delivering.

    It’s about as close a confirmation to Jim’s assessment of the situation as you’ll find published anywhere this side of the Dnieper…

    • skippy says:

      “(5) Ukraine will lose if the West doesn’t greatly increase the aid its delivering. ”

      If you read carefully they say Ukraine will lose if they dont get a lot more materiel AND a lot more troops.

      They say the West can provide more materiel but they don’t say where the troops can come from.

      They are saying Ukraine is doomed in a way that can be plausibly denied.

      • restitutor_orbis says:

        Apparently the authors of this particularly study are part of what we call the war faction and would like NATO to intervene. So it may be that they are hoping that the troops will come from US and UK.

      • jim says:

        This article is full of politically correct lies stated loudly and clearly up front, and politically incorrect truths that are coded and half hidden, or written between the lines.

        It accurately reports that the Russians are having difficulties with Information Epoch artillery coordination, but reading between the lines, the Ukes are having much bigger difficulties. It grossly lies that most Russian artillery fire is old style, relying on sheer mass of artillery and indiscriminate shelling. When you see videos of Russian advance, you will notice that every shell landed precisely on target. No random shells churning up the dirt. Old style artillery fire happens, but it is a screw up, which they endeavor to correct, and usually do.

        Their cry for standardization is consistent with the word that I indirectly heard at third hand through the grapevine, that the Ukes are finding Information Epoch weaponry very hard to use.

        Operating autonomous weapon systems is systems administration, and the IQ floor for systems administrators is high.
        Standardization is a displacement activity to avoid dealing with the real problem.

        Standardization is the bureaucratic reaction to hard problems that require smart people, that require groups of smart people with no midwits in the group. You typically need to operate a smart autonomous weapon system with a team of three people, one of them, older and more experienced than the other two, in charge, all of them better than midwits, with midwit support teams outside the system administration group.

        They are evading the fact that modern warfare simply needs smart people.

    • jim says:

      The strategy of attritive war was based on the theory that western technological superiority and economy resources would result in Russia being attrited first. That Russia would be exhausted and collapse, resulting in Putin being killed, and usual collection of carryon-baggers looting Russia again.

      The assumption of technological superiority in attritive war has proven incorrect. It is not that Russia has enormous amounts of artillery. It is that every shell hits. The Ukraine is running out of soldiers, and the west is running out of artillery. Attritive war is a bad idea for anyone in the Information Epoch, because of its intolerable consumption of soldiers, but it has turned out to be a worse idea for the west.

      • restitutor_orbis says:

        It was also interesting (to me) to see that Russia’s economy is easily capable of producing enough munitions to sustain the war effort. We hear a lot of noise about how Russia’s GDP is smaller than Portugal and so on, but somehow Portugal cannot make nuclear submarines and 1,000,000 rounds of ammunition per factory… It’s enough to make me suspect that the Cathedral may not be entirely honest with GDP!

        • someDude says:

          Suspect, huh? Good Catch! Because the Cathedral is entirely honest with everything else.

        • Fireball says:

          This one is new for me. How the fuck would the russian gdp be smaller than the portuguese one? There is barely any agriculture or industry in Portugal.

          • Kunning Drueger says:

            I think it’s more about GDP voodoo than actual financial capacity. Russian mineral extraction alone belies the assertion that Portugal is “bigger.” Not dissimilar from how all the data I can find states that, under age 17, females are the victims of sexual assault at ~2:1 over males. It’s book cooking.

            • Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

              I think one of my all time favorite examples for illustrating the fatuity of GDP tracking is, if two housewives pay each other to babysit each others kids, ‘GDP’ is counted up, but if they are managing their own households, ‘GDP’ not counted up.

              Real value creating arrangements, activities, and social structures, are only proximally intimated by GDP statics – and in many cases, are deliberately obscured even.

            • Jehu says:

              A useful metric that is closer to reality than GDP would be a great opportunity for a reactionary college of economics.

              For a start, it wouldn’t include as ‘goods’ anything that is unnecessary in a society where Order is maintained. It would start from the presumption of, say, early 1960s in a high trust environment and only score deltas from that.

              • Kunning Druegger says:

                The establishment and expansion of a Salon Network (No, Shanikwa, not that kind of salon) could be an effective way to begin the process of Elite Defection that is necessary to change the guard. I know that it is probably too late, but, seeing as there is neither the apatite nor the opportunity to establish a shadow regime, beginning a series of dialogues about the post-LWO/GAE paradigm would provide a sufficient venue for capable and desirous elites to congregate and cooperate. The natural next step is the classical Antiversity.

                A Salon of informed and interesting voices taking up the question of Is GDP A Relevant Measure. A Salon discussing IEW and/or its constituent parts. A Salon dedicated to studying the permanent distributed bureaucracy.

                This methodology would be appealing to the current octogenarian class because it is a format they find familiar. There’s already the precursor for this over at the Governance Futurism section of the internet.

              • restitutor_orbis says:

                I agree. Writing a takedown of neo-classical GDP for my blog has been on my to-do list for some time.

                P-C has already mentioned one of the great flaws/features of GDP, which is that it artificially inflates GDP when women are taken out of the home and put into the workforce, because a paid babysitter counts as GDP while a stay-at-home mother does not.

                Another area where GDP is used to maliciously distort reality is in the value of homes. GDP calculations treat charging rent as production. They then treat owner-owned-and-occupied homes as businesses that implicitly “produce” GDP equal to their implicit rent. Therefore, as housing prices go up, GDP goes up.

                Housing pricing in the US has long diverged from productivity or reality and is driven by petrodollar-fueled asset inflation. The net result is that the US GDP appears to increase when inflation occurs, and this increase is considered *real* rather than nominal since home prices aren’t counted in the inflation statistics.

                This trick is also why the US “Blue States” claim to have much bigger GDPs than the US “Red States”. California and New York have high GDP partly because their real estate is so expensive…

                I could go on but it’s essentially lies all the way down. We definitely need a reactionary economics.

                • The Cominator says:

                  Definitely… an economics that shows how mortgage cancer and female “liberation” made everyone much much much poorer would be a massively positive development.

                • Jehu says:

                  In some very red parts of blue states I’ve seen things like:

                  Stacks of wood placed in a random parking lot, with a bucket for you to deposit the price of it. Nobody around watching it, just cash and carry.

                  and even totally unattended fruit stands, where you are expected to weigh your produce, bag it, pay, and make change for yourself.

                  Things like this exist currently only in extremely high trust areas, but they are instructive in terms of what’s actually an economic ‘good’ from a reactionary perspective.

                  Joe cutting wood and stacking it next to his cash can, then going to cut more wood. This is obviously a good. Being able to buy wood cheap for my campfires or to heat a house is good. But Joe having to hire someone to make sure people don’t rip off his cash can or take without paying—that’s just a deadweight loss, caused by the lack of high trust and Order in his society (the Joes that cut wood in the parts of very blue states that are deep red enjoy a high trust microclimate).

                  Similarly, having to hire a cashier for the fruit stand to keep people honest (and able to do basic consumer math, it had a blackboard for you to do math on) is also just deadweight.

                  Amusingly, the deadweight losses do exactly what classical economists would predict: They cause a lot of actual ‘good’ economic transactions to disappear. If Joe had to pay 20% of his take for ‘guard labor’, he might not find it worthwhile to cut wood anymore. If he gets ripped off more than a vanishingly small amount of time, he’ll probably just bag the whole thing.

                  A reactionary economic theory would factor out all this stuff to get to the actual goods and services provided.

                  Get a good massage or visit to the chiropractor? That’s a legit service.

                  Get a lawyer because you have to because of regulations or the like that wouldn’t exist in a reasonably reactionary society? Not a good, that’s deadweight. Get a lawyer for standard contracts and wills and so forth? That’s a legit good. Nearly all security is deadweight. Repairs due to warfare or lawlessness and lack of order? Deadweight. Only if something makes people’s lives better and would be necessary in our benchmark society is something counted for the analog of GDP.

                • Jehu says:

                  Females working outside the home in a reactionary economic system would be accounted thusly:

                  Childcare costs would be considered deadweight—not counted since in the benchmark society it was customarily produced in the home

                  Many of the places most women work (e.g. HR) would be considered deadweight, possibly even negative. Secretaries that actually improve the productivity of their bosses, like a secretary that doubles as a technical writer assigned to a team of 4 engineers would be scored by their salary. And they’d be called secretaries, not administrative assistants.

                  Automobiles, additional meals out, etc that are only necessary based on two people working in different jobs in a household would be scored as deadweight. The truth is a lot of women are effectively paying to work, even if they’re constitutionally averse to homeschooling.

                  Private schools that were less than or equal to the quality of public schools in the year of benchmark would be considered deadweight (they’re necessary only because your public schools are pozzed or worse).

          • Fireball says:

            Over wikipedia it says that the russian one is 4 trillion and the portuguese one is 400 billion.

            • Fireball says:

              oops my bad i was looking at the GDP PPP for the GDP is 1.4 trillion and 270 billion

        • Aidan says:

          The Russian economy is substantially geared towards war, in the same way that Sparta was a city of brick.

        • suones says:

          I remember calling GDP a bugman indicator in the past, and I stand by that term. “GDP” only counts stuff contributing to the Jewish/Judaised economy[1], and ignores commerce that doesn’t contribute to banksters’ bottom lines.

          @jim

          tl;dr: T-62+dumb spotting drone+infinite shells > GAE (only 1000!) Javelin/”superweapons”+UKR nincompoop operator

          “Information Epoch” or “Hi-Tech” warfare is an American fantasy created to explain their stunning and brave victory over those dastardly Nazis with overwhelmingly more resources. Somehow, this has become established truth in NRx as well. In fact, Wehrmacht was, man for man, the better Army, and 30s-40s German tech was (literally) generations ahead of everyone else. The Judeo-Communist Alliance zerg-rushed them into oblivion, like a rain of locusts.

          Lesson to be learned? Wunderwaffen are fine, but only if you can field a man with a Panzerschreck faster than they can crank out a tank. It turns out getting soldiers trained enough to effectively use Wunderwaffen took a lot more time than Uncle Adolf and his Merry Men had.

          India experienced this first-hand in 1965 when GAE equipped its Pakistani butt-buddies with F86 Sabrejets for their Conquest of Delhi, but the aircraft proved curiously under-effective against vintage British birds flown by Indians. This was starkly highlighted in 1971, when the Sabrejets failed strategic objectives spectacularly in the face of so-called “numerical superiority” of IAF vintage and ex-Soviet junkers. So much so that Pakistan quietly phased out F86s and bought Chinese clones of Soviet junkers instead. It appears GAE didn’t consider its Amerikaner pilots as a vital component of its air superiority. Pakistani pilots were simply no match. But the delusion is maintained right to the top levels of US hierarchies, where (THE) Chuck Yeager, a true son of Douglas MacArthur, promoter of International Jihad, honoured friend of goatfuckers, maintains that Pakistan “won” their 1971 war with India, evidence be damned[2]. This is the power of Molochite priests.

          [1] Jews themselves call this “financialised” economy, of course, to cover their tracks.

          [2] https://www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/in-a-war-of-140-characters-american-flying-icon-awards-1971-to-pakistan/story-BVmRpTvovWtG0tSDWf0SHK.html

          • jim says:

            In World War I, it took approx ten thousand shells fired to kill one soldier.

            If we belief Global American Empire propaganda on the volume of Russian shellfire, it now takes one hundred russian shells to kill one Ukrainian.

            But I am pretty sure that actual volume of shellfire is enormously lower, making it closer to one one.

            That is Information Epoch weaponry.

            Trump’s war on Isis was Information Epoch warfare.

            The Ukraine claims that the villages near Kherson that it recently re-occupied are being completely destroyed. But I am pretty sure that when Russian troops re-re-occupying them broadcast themselves walking around in them, we will see those villages suffered minor damage, but the troops re-occupying them were completely destroyed.

            Claims of massive destruction during the recent Russian and Lugansk people’s Republic liberation of Severodonetsk were obvious lies. I expect we shall see that the massive destruction of those villages was an obvious lie.

      • Varna says:

        Ukrainian women of certain professions are no longer allowed to exit the country without an official waiver. They will count as reservists.
        https://lenta.ru/news/2022/07/12/ukrainskiyezhenschiny/

        На военнообязанных украинок начнут распространяться те же правила выезда за пределы страны, что и на украинцев: чтобы пересечь границу, женщинам будет необходимо иметь разрешение из военкоматов.

        Ранее сообщалось, что с 1 октября украинские женщины некоторых профессий должны будут встать на воинский учет. Став военнообязанными, они будут числиться в запасе Вооруженных сил Украины (ВСУ), Нацгвардии или других силовых ведомств, а также раз в три года проходить сборы. За отказ от участия в этих мероприятиях предусмотрена ответственность вплоть до уголовной.

        • The Cominator says:

          Any woman who has a chance of being called up will just get pregnant.

          • jim says:

            They are sending the pregnant and the lame to the trenches.

            They do not need physical capability, just warm bodies. Attritive warfare consists of providing enough targets to tie up the enemy’s artillery. If one of those targets in fifty is carrying an autonomous anti tank missile, and one in ten is carrying a rapid fire rifle, the opposing force has to take out about half of them before it can advance.

            While your opponent is wasting ammo on random expendable warm bodies, you get the opportunity to take out their artillery. That is how attritive warfare is done. That is the Global American Empire strategy for defeating Russia. Soak up their arms production, until they run into logistic limits, and then advance, eventually all the way to Moscow, arrange for Putin to be killed, and reconsecrate the great Cathedral to Gay Pride with tranny symbols on the altar. It is a holy war.

            In attritive warfare, a blind deaf morbidly obese wheelchair bound pregnant women is a perfectly useful combatant. Indeed more useful, because after you have tipped her out of her wheelchair into a trench, she cannot run away.

            You might say she is less useful when attempting to advance, but their current strategy in advancing on Kherson just relies on planting warm bodies closer to Russian forces, so dressing women as if they might be carrying an autonomous anti tank missile or a rapid fire rifle, and tipping them out somewhere near the Russians still works.

            Double bonus. They want to kill of Russians and Ukes. Attritive warfare is not working very well, because in the Information Epoch your cannon fodder has a considerably shorter life expectancy than it did in World War I, but they do not care. The immediate target is the Great Cathedral, but the longer term target is: World population of five hundred million.

    • Kunning Druegger says:

      Here is another data point from the same institution: https://rusi.org/explore-our-research/publications/commentary/return-industrial-warfare

      Orbis says: “So it may be that they are hoping that the troops will come from US and UK.”

      This is untenable for the war faction; they need a coalition, so they will need troops from all over the GAE. To do this, they will need atrocities, a call to arms, and a meta-meme to rule them all. Personally, I believe they lost this capability after the dissolution of the leftward confederation after Trump was deposed. The Foggy Bottom Faggots lack the tenacity and manliness of the FDR brain trust. There only option will be coerce and bribe up a coalition.

      Any coalition force that goes up against the battle hardened Russian federation and their Eastern Alliance will be shredded. This may actually be the goal, as it will be a justification for nuclear escalation.

      • Varna says:

        Globohomo has the Poles, which is the closest to normal soldiers on the western side of the divide. Population 40mil, better functioning army than Germany’s, things could get ugly.

      • Pooch says:

        And they say the Left can’t meme. Nonsense.

        The Left has successfully memed every Ukrainian to fight Russia to the last man. I don’t see why they couldn’t just meme every non-Russian Slav and Pole to fight Russia to the last man as well.

        • The Cominator says:

          Its not memes its rear Azov type niggers (even if not Azov) in the rear of the Ukranian lines reenacting the Flying Drumhead Court Martials of 1945 against any man they suspect of fleeing.

          Every day I hate wignats more and more…

          • Wulfgar Thundercock III says:

            Stop using wignat as an insult. Andrew Anglin, peace be upon him, is a wignat. Azov types are kept in place by the American government. They are the Ukrainian version of the FBI, and probably get supervised by the same people. Feds, not white nationalists.

            • The Cominator says:

              Anglin used to be a wignat long ago.

              • Wulfgar Thundercock III says:

                He still is, but more importantly, he was never a fed. He still has the white population counter on his site. Andrew Anglin is a good man, on our side, and a white nationalist. Wignat is an insult that does not offend the target, does not accurately describe the target, and instead targets people that you have common cause with. If you are so fucking autistic that you have had to give up on women, then use a little bit of the autistic literalism to use insults that actually describe the people you want to insult.

                Ukrainians Slavs sending Ukrainian women to die at the hands of Russian Slavs to protect American interests is not white nationalism. Guess what happens when the white men and white women of a nation are consumed in service of another nation’s goals? A white nation ceases to exist. An actual Ukrainian nationalist would have called the fight months ago and saved his people. The way things are going, Putin is going to get an empty Ukraine to colonize with Russians for Christmas. That is not white nationalism. That is actually white genocide.

              • jim says:

                Anglin still is a wignat, and his site is full of great stuff. If you are talking about shills, call them shills. One of the people I just censored for pushing dead in the water Marxist class history were implicitly presupposing Marxist class history in the course of explicitly ranting about Jews and supporting Hitler.

                • Wulfgar Thundercock III says:

                  Not shills, but Azov-style commisars in Ukraine. They are not white nationalists, they are suicide pact death cultists.

                • The Cominator says:

                  I’ve outlined before my views of what the wignat memeplex were in detail way back (don’t feel like going back to look thru it now) and I do not think that Anglin is really part of that at all anymore… he is too intelligent to be one and stay one. Not all white nationalists are wignats.

                  I’ve also said that unfortunately they aren’t all feds or even most of them (maybe on 4chan nowadays most of them are), many are sincere believers who are just kind of stupid. The smarter ones tend to be feds (who are merely midwits but still).

                • Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

                  Applying special categories to NPCs as if they were proactive principled agents is fundamentally wrong-headed. The only title that reasonably applies to NPCs is NPC, and the only variegation in their signaling is functions of historical contingency.

                  ‘Wignat’ is not a category that cleaves reality at it’s joints. You have glowniggers, good fashy europoid men you can have good fashy conversations with, and NPCs, all being lumped together under the same term, and there is not a single example of someone this term has been used on that is not one of these things.

                • The Cominator says:

                  “Applying special categories to NPCs as if they were proactive principled agents is fundamentally wrong-headed.”

                  Ps-C I think you’re probably the smartest guy here other than Jim but no its important to make distinctions.

                  Wignats (we’re talking about the non feds here) are not quite NPCs in that they do not accept Cathedral teaching on race, but then they watch the Greatest Story Never Told and decide it must be right because it ripped off the beautiful Jane Seymour theme from the show The Tudors so it sounds like its good and true, maybe read part of Mein Kampf or more likely read some summary of Mein Kampf and they fall into the wignat memeplex which is fed and Cathedral controlled unofficially. They have a small part of the truth and have not rejected truth itself entirely (they would follow the popular cult if they did) but in their simple minds fell into other lies controlled by the enemy and often despite hating the enemy sincerely tend to end up as their tools.

                • jim says:

                  Do not exist.

                  Not one.

                  Not anywhere.

                • Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

                  Every colour on the rainbow has a gradient where one section of colour blends into the next section.

                  The question is, is that gradient significant enough to be a section in of itself; or is one merely confusing the existence of a gradient for the existence of a significant section in of itself?

                  If ‘wignat’ was a thing, there would be a ‘wignat high command’ one could point too. Well, what stands in for wignat high command? On one hand, glowniggers like Spencer; on the other hand, good fashy europoids like Anglin. Looks like no wignats in any case, only fednats and fascists.

                • jim says:

                  The categor wignat confounds two utterly different things.

                  1. People whose hearts are in the right place, even though sometimes their ideas are confused

                  2. Enemy shills who are lying for a paycheck.

                  No gradient exists. The shills glow in the dark. The difference is obvious.

                • Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

                  Basically the problem is using the term wignat for prole nationalists like this, and also using the term wignat azog glowwies like that, when these are significantly different things, and calling them the same thing muddies the waters.

                  If Anglin is a wignat, then wignat is a good and valuable word for good and valuable people; if Spencer is a wignat, then wignat is a word for employed shills who do not actually serve what they say they serve (be it white nationalism or anything). A prole nationalist misled by shills may be deluded, but his feelings and affections are also genuine, and can easily be turned to righteousness if the opportunity is there. He cares about his in-groups, first, so it is only a case where a man may be confused about what best serves his in-groups, and that can never be a true leftist in the long run.

                • The Cominator says:

                  My stance is that Anglin is not a wignat but used to be a sincere one. That Spencer is a fed who used to sound like a wignat (I heard he sounds even gayer than that now but I never paid that close attention) but he would accurately be described as a fednat…

                  And that lots of non feds on various far right spaces (some were feds don’t get me wrong) who would say that capitalism is jewish and so was Trump etc… those would be wignats.

                  I do think its a distinct category for a distinct ideology that is sincerely held by some, I’m not going to pretend everyone agrees with me though but the problem I have with fednat is that it implies that all of them are feds… I think all their leaders or 99% of them are feds but I think they are unwitting dupes.

                • jim says:

                  > And that lots of non feds on various far right spaces (some were feds don’t get me wrong) who would say that capitalism is jewish and so was Trump etc

                  Every single person who says that capitalism is Jewish glows in the dark. Just raise the topic of Soros, and it immediately becomes obvious who is writing their paycheck.

                • Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

                  >And that lots of feds on various far right spaces (some were non-feds don’t get me wrong) who would say that capitalism is jewish and so was Trump etc… those would be fednats.

                  ftfy

                • Kunning Druegger says:

                  St. John the Blessed says: “Every colour on the rainbow has a gradient where one section of colour blends into the next section.

                  The question is, is that gradient significant enough to be a section in of itself; or is one merely confusing the existence of a gradient for the existence of a significant section in of itself?”

                  Com, P-C *is* making a distinction here, and an important one. He is saying that there is no color ‘Orangellow,’ and that sub-sectioning the part of the spectrum that connects Orange and Yellow together as a distinct color, Orangellow (that being Wignat) is not actually making a distinction, it is erasing distinction.

                  Red Orange Yellow Green Indigo Blue Violet

                • Pooch says:

                  The categor wignat confounds two utterly different things.

                  1. People whose hearts are in the right place, even though sometimes their ideas are confused

                  2. Enemy shills who are lying for a paycheck.

                  No gradient exists. The shills glow in the dark. The difference is obvious.

                  Wignat just means White Nationalism. I reject White Nationalism and White Nationalists because the people oppressing me are the white elite who hate me so the ideology is fucking stupid and everyone who holds it is a weirdo or a fed.

                  Hell, I reject all Nationalism period. Nationalism was an Enlightenment idea invented by Voltaire. Not seeing that as any sort of path forward. Been tried. Failed just like Communism.

                • jim says:

                  Correct.

                  And you are rightly attacking Wignats from the right.

                  But they are fellow travelers, who invariably come around to our positions. They are our allies, who soon enough become our footsoldiers. Don’t confuse them with the shills. There is no gradient, there is no overlap.

                  They look around for priestly leadership. Hitler died in defeat. Mussolini died in defeat. Franco cucked out. They find us. We are the real right, Throne, Altar, and Freehold. They are looking for us, and they find us.

                  The shills have a counter ideology, and that counter ideology is Marxism, thinly disguised as the national socialism of Hitler, though nothing makes it nationalist except that they say “Joo Joo Joo Joo Joo” all the time, while being strangely unable to notice the activities of wealthy and powerful Jews who are doing big evil things right now. The non shills have no ideology, and are looking for one.

                  They vaguely think that an ideology must exist, and the shills wave Marxism in their faces.

                • Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

                  Pooch, Davos is not going to call. You will never be a part of the tranzi elite. The effendi will never accept you, just like they will never accept men like Yarvin or Land, even though they desperately wish them too.

                • Pooch says:

                  I am but a humble peasant and unimportant in the grand arc of history.

                • The Cominator says:

                  “1. People whose hearts are in the right place, even though sometimes their ideas are confused

                  2. Enemy shills who are lying for a paycheck.”

                  The problem with me saying that even sincere wignats have their hearts in the right place… is that they are socialist. They accept a truly evil ideology and they mostly lack the critical faculties to see why it is wrong. Attempts to point out why they are wrong gets labeled jewish.

                  I will concede they have some interest in truth but its poisoned by the acceptance of different evil lies.

                • jim says:

                  > is that they are socialist.

                  Did Hitler believe in Marxist class theory, Marxist economics, and Marxist history?

                  All existing actual Nazis are at least a little bit embarrassed about Hitler’s socialism. Everyone still pushing socialism is pushing the whole Marxist wagon.

                  Back in the 1930s, the fascist states abruptly ended the holiness spiral by crushing their radical left faction, and Stalin then created third positionism as a replacement, an entryist attack against the fascist states. “Hail fellow fascist, I am more fascist than thou, Marxist theory is obviously true, and therefore you should support the alliance of Hitler with Stalin Stalin in the war against Hitler.”

                  Yes, Nazis are socialists, and that is a problem. But every single actual Nazi is evasively sweeping the embarrasingly socialist part of national socialism under the rug. Every single one that pushes the socialist part of national socialism immediately brings in a wagon load of Marxist History, Marxist Economics, the Labor theory of value, and all that stuff. This operation has been running for a very long time.

                • The Cominator says:

                  I’ve known a few IRL Jim, lets just say we disagree on this.

                • jim says:

                  You grant too much credulity to our enemies.

                • The Cominator says:

                  “Did Hitler believe in Marxist class theory, Marxist economics, and Marxist history?”

                  Hitler to a large degree did believe in Marxist class theory and economics as Tik well described in his 5 hour video that yes Hitler was a leftist and a socialist. He talks about the venal Buergois in the Table Talks quite a bit. I do think however he rejected 90% of Marxist history.

                • jim says:

                  > Hitler to a large degree did believe in Marxist class theory and economics

                  Hitler was a leftist and a socialist. But he did not believe in, and did not try to sell, Marxist theory, because it is just too silly for anyone to believe. But every single supposed fascist who today claims to be pushihg Hitler’s leftism and socialism, who claims to be a huge fan of the wonderfully successful NSDAP socialism, is pushing Marxist History (class rule and capitalism is recent) and Marxist economics (labor theory of value). Therefore not one of them is an actual fascist. All shills, all entryists, all on the Soros payroll since the Soviet Union stopped funding them.

                  Just ask them about Soros, antifa, pussy riot, ngos, Soros’ sources of wealth, and Soros’ political prosecutor’s and political prosecutions. For people terribly worried about wealthy Jews they are strangely oblivious to the activities of the most obvious and obnoxious wealthy Jew.

                • skippy says:

                  “Did Hitler believe in Marxist class theory, Marxist economics, and Marxist history?”

                  He did not.

                • Aidan says:

                  Wignat doesn’t mean what anyone here says it means. It is short for wigger nationalist. White nationalists who live and act like niggers. They exist, but it is not an applicable insult to anonymous people online.

                • Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

                  If there is any more important distinction in need of uncovering here, is is between ‘coincidental nationalism’, and this special kind of ‘universalizing nationalism’, that those wishing to signal superior brahmin class status sometimes invoke when they use the word ‘nationalism’.

                  Any good man is going to be coincidentally nationalist, in the same sense he is familist, and localist, and chauvinist, and racialist, and religionist, and indeed, even humanist, in the event our star imperium beings its acquisition of galactic lebansraum from the filthy xenos. It is component of the natural extension of expanding thedeship, the natural procession of concentric ordinals.

                  Ionian greeks were all nationalists and Ionian supremacists when it came to dealing with their Persian neighbors. They spoke in explicitly racial language. And they also all had their own private city-states. And there was no contradiction in any of this.

                  The conflation of this with this special case of ‘universalizing nationalism’ is another example of quasi-bluetribe thinking muddying the waters.

                  Of course in any given epoch, the leftisms you will find in that epoch will be tuned for the character of that epoch. Leftism of bygone eras can look positively shitlordian in comparison to that of more degenerate eras, because naturally they are always undertaken relative of the prevailing climate, and need to practically survive in that climate. The putative subversive needs a wedge to get a foot in through the front door, and the reason he might use something like ‘universalizing nationalism’ in more civilized times, is not because it participates in concentric thedeship, but because he is *erasing* concentric thedeship. That is a functional kernel of leftist tactics throughout the ages, whatever form they take. The key part of ‘universalising nationalism’ is not the ‘nationalism’ part, but the *universalizing* part. And once the operative dynamic of dissolving hierarchies of concentric thedeship in even the merest senses is established, it may assume its course to ultimate nominalistic universality in toto, consuming any vestiges of particularism it may have worn as cloaks along the way.

                • jim says:

                  > The putative subversive needs a wedge to get a foot in through the front door, and the reason he might use something like ‘universalizing nationalism’ in more civilized times, is not because it participates in concentric thedeship, but because he is *erasing* concentric thedeship

                  Exactly so: Every shill entryist against fascism starts out with “hail fellow white” (he is probably an H1B dot Indian) “we whites have to stick together, fellow white man”, and then rapidly proceeds to “hail fellow peasant, we peasants with only one cow have to stick together against the peasant with two cows who is oppressing us. Workers of the world unite. You have nothing to lose but your chains”

                  > And once the operative dynamic of dissolving hierarchies of concentric thedeship in even the merest senses is established, it may assume its course to ultimate nominalistic universality in toto, consuming any vestiges of particularism it may have worn as cloaks along the way.

                  The shills tend to be overly hasty in getting to their final destination, being marinated in blue tribe triumphalism.

                • Cloudswrest says:

                  Re. Entryism

                  This was posted on our local town FB group today.

                  On HOA board and wanting our mgmt company to look into local BIPOC owned landscaping for the complex. Any recommendations?

                  And so it begins.

                • jim says:

                  Every organization that gets converged abandons its original functions.

        • S says:

          How many non-Ukrainian slavs are fighting in Ukraine? It looks to me like there was a bunch of volunteers at the start and then the flow cut off.

          • jim says:

            They swallowed Cathedral propaganda, and found themselves stuffed into trenches to function as cannon fodder. Word is getting around.

            The choice of tactics and strategy in World War One was premised on getting rid of the aristocratic officer elite.

            The choice of tactics and strategy in this war is dictated by the goal of eradicating the higher races. Attritive warfare is aimed at destroying Russia, but it is also aimed at destroying us.

            • skippy says:

              “The choice of tactics and strategy in World War One was premised on getting rid of the aristocratic officer elite.”

              This is maybe a little conspiratorial. The dominance of artillery in WWI was mostly due to the superiority of interior lines of communication over field lines of communication, a problem that the Germans solved in 1917 and the British solved in 1918, both leading to rapid advances.

              I think it was a genuinely hard problem. WWI was the first field war dominated by beyond line of sight artillery.

            • skippy says:

              The narrative invented after WWI, that dumb aristocratic officers sent men pointlessly to their deaths, was designed to scalp officers, not literally but in the typical priestly way of damaging their reputations and removing their right to rule.

              In reality WWI attacks almost always succeeded in taking the first line enemy trench. The first day of the Somme for the British (but not the French, who did take their objections) being a huge aberration and not a typical case.

              What then happened is that the defender was able to use fixed phone lines to signal where the line had been breached and call for reinforcements who were carried in using railways. The attacker, on the other hand, had to send runners back to request reinforcements, who had to lug equipment over muddy fields on foot. The defender would also have pre-prepared artillery fire plans on his own first line trenches, while the attacker, not knowing where his own troops were, could not shoot.

              Today the attacker would use radios to signal his position and direct artillery, and tracked vehicles to cross the battlefield. In 1917 and 1918 the Germans and British had assembled some of that technology plus some hacks. The priestly narrative was that it was easy to win WWI battles in 1914, no technical issues, but callous and stupid officers continued to send men to die in no man’s land all the way into 1918.

              • Kunning Druegger says:

                This is very well articulated. I have never been comfortable with the, shall we say, Conspiratorial Angle, as I feel it wasn’t very well supported and was too much in the category of A Theory of Everything. Though I do believe the French leadership, as well as elements of the British leadership, were happy to sacrifice millions to the Old Gods (they being of the cohort so fascinated with the evil undercurrent in Catholicism like Black Mass and other ritualistic, hedonic death worship), it doesn’t make sense as a grand conspiracy.

                Did you read about the internal v. external comms capacity somewhere, or is that an idea of your own formulation?

                • skippy says:

                  Own conclusion.

                • Kunning Druegger says:

                  stfu really? Well done.

                • Red says:

                  > Conspiratorial Angle, as I feel it wasn’t very well supported and was too much in the category of A Theory of Everything.

                  It’s well supported. Read John Mosier’s book on Verdun. The socialist French government was openly hostile to the Roman Catholic army. Socialists offices sent endless charges into the face of machine guns while they stayed in the rear, while Cathloc officers frequent ignored orders and were arrested for their failure to murder their men in frontal attacks or lead the attacks at their head because they were willing to share their men’s risks.

                  The German strategy to win the war was to bleed the French army white until they sued for peace while not realizing that they were doing exactly what the French socialists wanted.

                • jim says:

                  In World War I we saw exactly the same problem as Global American Empire is now having in the Uraine, the desire to murder and exterminate being expressed most directly against your own troops, because it is easier.

              • The Cominator says:

                That men generally took the 1st trench (and I wouldn’t say almost always I would say 75-80% of the time they did) didn’t mean much if the attack still failed which they always did… especially since the Germans learned not to keep large concentrations of men in the frontline trenches except in the very rare occasions they attacked.

                And Haig and his favorite commanders were indeed incompetent and callous officers at best, it cannot be said they were priestly either… but they gave the priests the ammunition they needed to take over everything. Haig literally never visited the front I don’t think he even had a good idea what WW1 battles looked like.

                Foch I have a much better opinion of even if there were a lot of bad socialist French generals.

                • skippy says:

                  It’s unfair to criticize attacks for simply failing. Obviously both sides can’t succeed in all their attacks. One side is going to win and the other is going to lose.

                  Criticism is that the attacks were doomed to fail, and that failure was repeated over and over. Not the case. Technique was honed until one side (the stronger side) was able to launch war-winning attacks.

                • The Cominator says:

                  “It’s unfair to criticize attacks for simply failing.”

                  They repeatedly did fail and were probably doomed to fail the way they were doing it. In 1918 it changed because the allies had large # of tanks and overwhelming numeric superiority because American forces were there.

                • Kunning Druegger says:

                  That’s literal whig history. I’m not saying it’s incorrect, but it is what is taught in university.

                  I think skippy’s observations about comms as the catalyst, both for the stalls and the breakouts, is very interesting at the very least. It is a lot more grounded and verifiable than “evil aristocrat generals refused to do things better” which is the common knowledge observation.

                  I’m not attacking you Com, I disagree with your “conspiracy” angle, but I don’t reject the premise as impossible. I just don’t buy it.

                  The Comms Paradigm is actually very interesting the more I think about it, particularly when you consider just how many of the get-up-and-go, badass officers had been killed in the first 6 months of the conflict. There is much said to discredit the man and his memoir 1914 [1], but the ones speaking are Haig and his coterie of officers, so I don’t know who to believe. Gen. French was the guy who was in charge initially. His account of the slaughter of officers is harrowing. He blames the bureaucracy and the leadership back in England, calls the French Generals misguided and numb to the plight of their troops, and complains that neither England nor France adequately prepared for a war. It isn’t long, and it is worth a read if only for the coloration a primary source adds.

                  [1] https://www.gutenberg.org/files/24538/24538-h/24538-h.htm

                • jim says:

                  > consider just how many of the get-up-and-go, badass officers had been killed in the first 6 months of the conflict […] His account of the slaughter of officers is harrowing. He blames the bureaucracy and the leadership back in England,

                  A bureaucracy and leadership that from the Crimean war onwards had displayed deep and mounting hostility to the aristocratic officer class. The aristocracy still had a great deal of power all the way to World War I, and its powerbase was the army.

                  Similarl today, Global American Empire miitary tactics in Ukraine are best understood, like their booster agenda, as an expression of their agenda to reduce the population of higher races.

                • The Cominator says:

                  Contrast the British tactics with the German infiltration tactics and tell me it was AT BEST inexcusable incompetence.

                • The Cominator says:

                  There was just no excuse for the Somme (and especially post Somme disasters like 3rd Ypres) the British higher officers just should have suffered a Stalin style purge afterwords. Haig and Joffre (the pre Foch commander in France… he at least was thankfully fired) should have been shot immediately. Gough probably too.

                • Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

                  After the opening movements of the war, the German general staff was perfectly willing to hang back in prepared defenses in depth as long as the entente were willing to attack; and the leadership of the entente were always willing to attack. The general staff literally called this ‘bleeding the enemy white’, and it was more or less the official strategy while forms of social technology for dealing with the situation were developed.

                  And in large part that’s exactly what happened; the entente bled their armies white, started to get a creeping feeling they might actually lose, and desperately scrambled to get America into the war on their side, which Wilson was all too happy to collaborate with.

                  The line between ‘instinctively callous’ and ‘intentionally malicious’ is of course fuzzy, but often times you don’t find one without a bit of the other anyways.

                • Another example of difference; the experience of horrendous conditions in trench life almost all come from the experience of entente troops. The Heer was assiduous in furnishing the livability of fortified positions, whereas on the British and French side trench emplacements were always doctrinally considered ‘temporary measures’ pending the inevitable glorious advance to victory, even when you’ve been squatting in them for months.

                • Pooch says:

                  Similarl today, Global American Empire miitary tactics in Ukraine are best understood, like their booster agenda, as an expression of their agenda to reduce the population of higher races.

                  Not just higher races, all races. They are not joking when they say they want to reduce the world population to 500 million at their WEF conferences.

                  Their green energy population control measures are being tested on the Third World, most recently Sri Lanka.

                • skippy says:

                  German infiltration tactics appeared in 1917. By late 1917 early 1918, the British also had effective tactics for an advance, mostly based on artillery planning and coordination.

                  The British army in 1916 was very weak because Britain was the only participant not to have cadre conscription. Every other country was fighting with an entire adult male population with some military training. Britain alone was fighting with a completely raw army and a limited cadre of instructors.

                  The technical improvement between 1915 and 1918 in the British army was extraordinary. Three years is not a very long time.

                  This is not a comprehensive history of WWI. There were certainly questionable decisions made such as the political decision (above the head of Haig) to retain hundreds of thousands of troops in England for coastal defense in 1918. If those troops had been available German infiltration tactics may not have worked for lack of holes to infiltrate. I don’t rule out that politicians were trying to kill officers. But the image of WWI that is dominant in the public mind – that of attacks simply failing every time – is partly fictional and partly a hard technical problem. It was not a contrivance of malicious officers.

                • i says:

                  @jim

                  “A bureaucracy and leadership that from the Crimean war onwards had displayed deep and mounting hostility to the aristocratic officer class. The aristocracy still had a great deal of power all the way to World War I, and its powerbase was the army.”

                  Foxes either poison the Lions to death. Or they bleed them white by those methods.

                  The end state for them is of course a subjugated Warrior Class as in China before the Nomads took over in which said process starts again or simply overall true command over the Soldiers.

          • Varna says:

            Poland and the Ukraine signed recently quasi-integration agreements.
            https://vz.ru/world/2022/7/12/1167265.html
            Polacks now have the same rights as Ukraine citizens when in the Ukraine.
            Among other things, this means that potentially the Ukrainian army is going to gradually become the Polish army pretending to be the Ukrainian army.
            That way, among other things, you get the start of a Russia-Poland war which doesn’t instantly lead to a full-blown NATO-Russia megadeath.
            This is probably what the Russian have been training for, rotating their forces in and out of the Ukraine. Preparing for the next actor to step in.

    • Kunning Druegger says:

      Here’s a dive into RUSI.

      Here’s the staff: https://rusi.org/about/our-people/staff-and-fellows
      Just go on your instincts for phenotype and Game; what do you see?

      Here’s the list of governing bodies: https://rusi.org/about/our-people/rusi-governing-bodies

      An excerpt for the lazy and the mentally deficient:

      Our governance
      Patron
      Her Majesty the Queen

      President
      His Royal Highness The Duke of Kent KG, GCMG, GCVO, ADC

      Senior Vice-Presidents
      The Rt Hon the Lord Hague of Richmond
      General (Ret’d) David H Petraeus
      His Grace the Duke of Wellington OBE DL

      Chair
      The Rt. Hon. Sir David Lidington KCB CBE

      Vice-Chair
      The Lord Ricketts GCMG GCVO

      HMMMMMMM… ONE OF THESE THINGS IS NOT LIKE THE OTHER, ONE OF THESE THINGS JUST AIN’T QUITE THE SAME

      Here are the Trustees:
      The Rt Hon Douglas Alexander
      Ambassador Sylvie-Agnès Bermann
      Mr John Dowdy
      Mr Laurence Geller CBE
      Ms Jan Hall OBE
      General the Lord Houghton of Richmond GCB CBE
      Admiral Sir Philip Jones GCB DL
      The Rt. Hon. Sir David Lidington KCB CBE
      Mr Rageh Omaar
      Ms Suzanne Raine
      The Lord Ricketts GCMG GCVO
      The Rt. Hon. Amber Rudd
      The Rt. Hon. Jack Straw
      His Grace the Duke of Wellington OBE DL
      Sir Alexander Younger KCMG

      Here’s the Advisory Board:
      The Rt Hon the Lord Arbuthnot of Edrom
      Ms Jane Attwood
      Mr Rory Bremner FKC
      The Rt Hon Lord Campbell of Pittenweem CH CBE QC
      Mr Chris DiBona
      Dr Comfort Ero
      Lt Gen (Ret’d) Sir Robert Fry KCB CBE
      Ms Mina Gerowin
      Mr David Giampaolo
      Mr Shashank Joshi
      Mr Matthew Kirk
      Dame Mariot Leslie
      Dame Sarah MacIntosh DCMG
      Dr Greg Mills
      Mr Harper Reed
      Mr Michael Ridley
      Mr Oliver Waghorn
      Dr Rhodri Williams
      Ms Caroline Wyatt

      Here’s the Ex-Officio
      Brigadier Jim Bliss
      Brigadier General Paul Doyle
      Rear Admiral Hervé Hamelin
      Brigadier Grant Mason
      Brigadier General Michael Oberneyer
      Brigadier General Jefferson O’Donnell

      From the Source:
      RUSI is a UK registered charity and the governing document is a Royal Charter dated 22 February 1860. Some amendments to the Royal Charter of the Institute were approved at the Annual General Meeting held in July 2016.

      RUSI recognises that good governance in a charity is fundamental to its success. RUSI and its trustees are continually working towards achieving the highest standards of governance, by reference to the principles and recommended practice of the Charity Governance Code (July 2017).

      The Council of Trustees is accountable to the membership of the Institute, and all its members are elected at the Annual General Meeting or at a Special General Meeting. The Council of Trustees is responsible for appointing a Nominating Committee in order to provide advice on its nominations and co-options for the position of Chair, Vice-Chair and elected members. The Council meets at least four times a year. Once elected, the Institute has an induction, training and education programme in place for Trustees. The term of office for Trustees (other than the Chair and Vice-Chair) is four years; for the Chair and Vice-Chair it is five years.

      The Council of Trustees bears the legal responsibility for the oversight of the Institute and its finances as defined in UK Law and the Institute’s Charter of Incorporation and Bye-Laws and resolutions. The Trustees advise the Director-General on matters relevant to the management of the business of the Institute, and are responsible for the appointment of the Director-General and Chief Finance Officer. One of the Institute’s four Standing Committees is the Finance and Performance Committee which reviews finances, performance, risk management, audit and reporting of the Institute and its subsidiaries.

      The Director-General is the Chief Executive of the Institute and Secretary to the Council of Trustees. He or she is responsible for the day-to-day activities and current business of the Institute, including the management of the staff, to whom the Director-General may delegate duties. The remuneration and benefits of the Director-General are set by the Trustees, acting on the advice of the Nominating Committee.

      The Institute’s Advisory Board provides advice to the Director-General on the development of the Institute’s programmes and agenda, including fundraising for the long-term benefit of the Institute. Members of the Advisory Board may be called upon from time-to-time to contribute in other ways, relevant to their expertise and experience.

      ANALYSIS:
      Our esteemed brother seems to be correct; RUSI is the War faction, ensconced in Blighty with the hidden hand of America guiding it towards The Fray. Given the fuckability/cuckability index of the staff pictures, I’d say this little organization is a skinsuit entity designed to “marry” [ah-hahaha] the concerns of the crown with the concerns of defense industry. They keep the limp-dick generals on hand for allies and the MFA fuck-sluts around for everyone else.

      “But KD, you debonair man of many talents,” I hear you say, “what about all the attractive young white men on staff, of military bearing?” True enough, my invisible fanbase, true enough. Who are these men with serious faces and severe sideburns? Why, those are the former military officers who were seduced by the ardent humanists of plump ass and plumbless compassion, the ones that spend their summer in Lagos, or London, helping poor, starving, violence-prone Africans. Over this they bonded, both having seen up close and personal what it’s like to be up close and personal with the up close and personal (buy my memoir). Now, they work to make the world a better place, together, and separately.

      Terrible prose aside, a deep dive on each would yield a personal connection in some NGO or think tank or business in the business of human business. These guys are, as cleanly as I’ve yet seen, the Enemy. This is the face of the 500million Club.

      Nice find, Orbis.

      • C4ssidy says:

        I used to go RUSI regularly. It is not a wedding of military and business, but a wedding of academia and military. Officers are typically recruited from academia, especially anything intel related, and this is one of the areas for crossing over. . Sometimes you had straight warriors there with more practical opinions and other times you had pure academics preaching the latest mutation of leftism to the warriors . Some of the academics may simply be called autists. I recall a tank expert who outside his day job did nothing but play world of tanks and argue about tank specifications. I have no doubt that there is strong social pressure there these days among the wine glasses to gaddafi Putin in the name of fags on the right side of history , but presumably the autists are still there and doing real research. Fits Jim’s assessment of reality being put in between the lines of the report. I would not call them the war faction as the full-on left will tend to avoid the military institutions entirely. At most you could call it a place where the war faction indoctrinates the warrior class

        • Kunning Druegger says:

          A couple thoughts:

          It is precisely because the Left is willingly terrible at war they turn to institutions such as RUSI to do it for them.

          I was being a faggot with my prose, and I apologize; “NGO or think tank or business in the business of human business” is the same as “academia.”

          There’s an autist motor powering every effective bureaucracy.

  66. Kunning Druegger says:

    https://hiddencomplexity.substack.com/p/accidents-revolts-and-hints-of-ecoterror

    This is far more interesting than photoshopped images and fabricated headlines. The masses don’t matter so long as the system is running, however poorly or inefficiently. Yarvin just sent out a piece portraying the Elites as Elves and Amerikaners as Hobbits. Kind of interesting, as a Tolkienfag myself, but I get the feeling his slut fiance is depriving him of pathetic sex until he does something to “make it, like, stop, Curtis!”

    Yarvin: “Instead—by asserting power over the physical bodies of elves, who are still elves even if they happen to live in a hobbit state—Dobbs reminds them of what is most important in politics: the friend-enemy distinction. Elf together strong! Smelly hobbits must be defeated, at any cost. The only thing worse is traitorous dark elves who sympathize with nasty dirty dangerous hobbits. These traitors will be hunted, found and punished.”

    Notice his “all women” argument. Somehow, limiting baby murder is an attack on elves, because… all women are elites? What kind of blue pilled madness is that?

    He ends with: “Dear hobbits: what can we dark elves do for you? We can lead you to victories which are actual victories. We can help you build a hobbit army which is ready to rule, which even feels the right to rule—which even has the right to rule. We cannot help you until are ready to stop struggling reflexively, and start fighting strategically.”

    Hmm. Interesting. Meh… not buying it. Foremost, it wasn’t fucking Hobbits that overturned RvW, it was a particular “Dark” Elf. The “dark elves” had their shot in the oughts. Time for some 5.56 hobbit pitchfork rain storms, methinks. Understand, I’m not abandoning Elite Theory. The masses don’t matter, so long as social constructions do matter. I wonder how elites are fairing in Sri Lanka? Probably not as well as Elites in Holland… Who are most certainly not doing as well as Elites in Canada.

    From Complexity: “And the [mind]virus of revolt under hard times is the most virulent of all, infecting all but the rich…”

    Probably true, and if the “rich” [he means Elite, he just hasn’t progressed that far intellectually] are not prepared for the meaningless masses abandoning the pretense of civility and implicit hierarchy, why, they’re just one more clump of the meaningless masses.

    • Wulfgar Thundercock III says:

      Elite does not necessarily mean the current elite. Plenty of good men are being forced out of the Cathedral’s avenues to power for being too smart and realistic. It might not be an insider, but one of these clever outsiders that takes charge. History is replete with barbarians over taking and ruling the nearby degenerate empire.

    • Contaminated NEET says:

      >elves

      Yarvin has way, way too much sympathy for the proggies. They’re not elves, and haven’t been for generations. Maybe Ringwraiths. He thinks they’re smart, cool, and big-hearted people with the very best of taste. Look at their art, their architecture, their literature, their music. The only area they still show genuinely good taste is food. I still talk up their smarts and ruthlessness sometimes, and climbing the greased pole still proves competence, but the class is rotting before our eyes.

      >Meh… not buying it. Foremost, it wasn’t fucking Hobbits that overturned RvW, it was a particular “Dark” Elf.

      Yes, this stuck me too. Yarvin berates Amerikaners for the strategic blunder of the Roe decision, but it wasn’t Amerikaners what done it.

      >“Dear hobbits: what can we dark elves do for you? We can lead you to victories which are actual victories.”

      Can you, Curt? I haven’t seen you deliver any victories yet.

      • Globalist Power Terminated II says:

        > https://twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status/1546267015303815170
        “Hunter Biden arguing with a hooker about how much crack he has”

        Agreed. Yarvin is so full of shit. 😒

        • The Cominator says:

          https://graymirror.substack.com/p/you-can-only-lose-the-culture-war

          Dear hobbits: you can only lose the culture war. Even when elves use political power to impose elf culture on you, you cannot use political power to impose hobbit culture on elves.

          I mean, sometimes (rarely) you can. It never works out well. “I suppose that in theory you could massacre all the elves.”

          As I keep saying this is the only long term solution… the hobbits need to install a dark elf. The dark elf must then massacre all of the elves except the dark one. All elves not dark must die.

          Yarvin’s problem is too much sympathy for the “elves” as a whole.

    • chris says:

      The abortion faction is elf-like? Somehow I don’t think Tolkien would agree with that. Elves are meant to represent Purity, and the abortion faction is anything but that. As Contaminated NEET said they are more like Ringwraiths ruling over their faction of orcs.

    • Fireball says:

      Yarvin should stop with the cringe.

    • Zach says:

      Interesting substack!

  67. Oog en Hand says:

    Ten-year old girls lust after older men. Men like Akon, R Kelly and Edred Thorsson.

    • Varna says:

      So do five-year old girls. And in both cases the impulse can be easily manipulated to manifest in all sorts of grotesque forms. Hence groomers going drunk with power.

    • jim says:

      OK, passing you, but try not to chime in endorsing obvious shill attacks on Christianity by blatantly fake Christians as if Gospel standard ancient Chistianity.

      He engaged in real debate, unlike a typical shill, but was shifting ground to whatever best supported the post Christian take on Christianity. Possibly he is genuine, but I doubt it, and as more time passes without him making the affirmation, I doubt it more.

      If he does manage to make the affirmation, I intend to take him off moderation but grill him on his Christology, which I strongly suspect to by post Christian in some way or other. Over the millenia, post Christian religions have developed no end of complicated and overly clever Christologies to enable them to say Christian words with anti Christian meanings, but since Christians are now out of power, most of this excessive cleverness has been forgotten.

      • Kunning Druegger says:

        Respectfully, I don’t think this is enough. In many elite GAE circles, sexualizing youth is commonplace. Given his track record, how is this enough?

        This is symptomatic of a larger issue. We have very effective shill tests for the post-protestants and Feds, but they may not be as effective for other tribes that are our enemies. What is the shill test for an atheist? The devolution of science and technology? What about shill tests for pagans? Aidan hit him with one and he declined to answer, spouting some nonsense about it being beneath him, which was what the shill Whitey tried to pull.

        I submit to your good sense, I’m not going to make a crusade out of Fucks Own Hand or whatever his tribal name is around the drum circle.

        • jim says:

          > What is the shill test for an atheist?

          Darwin on sex differences.

          Nature or natures God. If a postchristian, we grill him on Christ, if a new atheist, race and sex. Old type atheists believe in natural selection. New type atheists believe in evolutionary creationism.

        • Redbible says:

          I think the key here as to why Jim is giving it a pass (for now) is that Oog en Hand is ascribing that 10 year old girls are sexual beings, which is not a public cathedral or fed line. If he had said that the elite class is full of pedos who rape 10 year olds, that would not be a pass, since that is not a crime-thought.

          I “recently” was at a party where I ended up pushing lots of kids on the swings. During that I “caught the eye” of Two 10 year old girls. They asked me lots of questions about my current and past relationship statuses. A few times They would go off to do their own thing, and then come back to “play’ with me. At one point, (when it was just me and the 2 girls) they started talking to each other about sex, with 1 telling the other “sex is gross, so I’m never going to have kids.” and the other friend “agreed”. Before the event was over, one of them insisted on me having her mom’s phone number, so she could spend more time with me. As for the other one, when I picked her up to give her a goodbye hug, she hugged me tightly with both her arms and legs. She said, “I love you.” and then a few seconds later *corrected* it, by adding “as a friend.”

          I mention all of this, because Jim’s model of the world (that 9 year old girls are lustful sexual creatures), better explains what happened here, and what the girls are after, than any normie or cathedral model out there.

      • Red says:

        He’s a shill. That tag teaming shill act is something I’ve see all the time on reddit on other forums.

  68. The Cominator says:

    https://mobile.twitter.com/NewsForAlI/status/1545717331455873026

    The Dutch farmers may yet do what they have to do.

    • Kunning Druegger says:

      Comments are saying it is shooped. Picture looks fake.

    • Globalist Power Terminated II says:

      > https://twitter.com/TheRealKeean/status/1546284131729829888
      “BREAKING: A Bill Gates Foundation supermarket in the Netherlands that focuses on new-age foods like plant protein meat has spontaneously caught fire in the middle of the night.”

      AYO LETS FUCKING GO!

    • Pooch says:

      So this is how the Amish die. I was wondering how they were going to do it. They’ll just drive them off the their land with climate crap like they are doing to the Dutch.

      • Guy says:

        I don’t see anyone having the balls to walk into Amish territory and tell them to stop farming

        • Guy says:

          I took the fact that the Amish are heavily armed as an indication they’d fight back, despite their pacifism. I did not realize that historically they allow themselves to be killed rather than fight back, no wonder they’re allowed leeway to make cabinets in peace, they can be taken out at any time unless they have some deep hidden exception too their rule.

      • Kunning Druegger says:

        I don’t think this would work on the Amish. They are the definition of “green farming practices.” In many respects, their way of life seems to be similar to what the overlords wish for all of us to pursue. Though of course, their “primitive” religiosity is unacceptable.

        It just occurred to me that we may all be forced to become Amish or Mennonite. We’d have to smuggle in redpills and safeguard them for a future time.

        • jim says:

          If cow manure can be deemed bad for nature, I have no doubt that Amish agriculture can be deemed bad for nature. The urban greenies are increasingly taking aim at the hippie country greenies that ignorantly support them. The left devours the left, and the urban greenies are devouring the rural greenies. Cannot keep chickens, cannot milk cows, cannot butcher a pig. If anything, the Amish are getting away with stuff that the old greenie hippies are finding increasingly dangerous and difficult.

          You cannot butcher your pig, you cannot kill and eat the wild goats attacking your crops. If you want to eat your pig, you have to send it to big city slaughterhouse, and it mysteriously died in its travels, and had to be dumped.

          If you try to live the old hippie greenie lifestyle you will theoretically be arrested, unlike the mexicans who steal your cattle fence wire for scrap metal, just as if you attempt to perform the mating dance, you will theoretically be arrested.

          • Mayflower Sperg says:

            just as if you attempt to perform the mating dance, you will theoretically be arrested.

            And if you attempt it without Jim’s silver tongue for women and cops, you will actually be arrested.

          • The Cominator says:

            “The urban greenies are increasingly taking aim at the hippie country greenies that ignorantly support them.”

            If country greenies includes the new agey types the new agey types do not support them. The hostility of the new ager types for the progleft has been growing for a long time and since the covid shutdowns its been blatant, I would say they hate progs about as much as we do at this point (definitely more than cuckservatives).

            The hippie new ager types genuinely value personal freedom and don’t like authority… they like being off the grid as much as possible. The whole system of gay digital control and forcibly trannyizing anyone (which they are well aware of that the agenda is, oh they also strongly believe men and women are different) they fucking hate it.

            And of course given that the Amish all broke tradition in 2016 to vote for Trump the Amish also don’t support them…

            Like I’ve said before they are the only “leftist” faction which I would spare.

            • S.J., Esquire says:

              “The hippie new ager types genuinely value personal freedom and don’t like authority”

              This is synchronicity, I literally had this discussion elsewhere recently. You are right. The essence of my recent discussion was, “what happened to hippies, classically we associated them with 60s leftism but they don’t seem that way anymore.” Yeah, they’re not, today’s hippies are decreasingly leftists as we think of them from the 60s and increasingly just independent thinkers who want to be left alone, I know many who own guns and were in the military.

              Living in homestead country, I do worry, a little, about attempts to shutter every and all small acreage, but I think if you live in hippie homestead country you’ll find a pretty robust resistance. I guess it depends on how fast the economy collapses and government loses the ability to inflict stuff.

  69. Winston Smith says:

    Frequent lurker here. At a crossroads in my life right now. Any help would be appreciated.

    I’m a 17-year-old who is about to finish up high school. Throughout my life I have slowly moved worldviews from my parents’ Cathedral ideology (shattered, for me at least, when Trump came into office in 2016) to Neoreactionism. I found this blog through an annotation on Unqualified Reservations, and the world I have previously known has been falling apart ever since.

    Being 17, I am about to move on to a post high-school life. My parents, being local (Cathedral appratchiks) college HR staff, are dead-set on getting me into a college or university, and would be very suspicious if I wanted to do something else. I have more or less agreed with them for most of my life, but now the NRx worldview has put that view into question. Before, I had wanted to major in something art, music or design related, and I am still genuinely interested in those fields. The environment on college campuses, though, seems genuinely dangerous to my freedom and life. I would rather not end up falsely accused of rape in a kangaroo court or Twitter-shamed out of a normal life, or worse.

    If it were necessary, I could learn a trade or do an apprenticeship, although my HR staff parents would begin to be suspicious if I did so.

    I am the only Neoreactionist in my town AFAIK. Everyone else is a leftist, cuckservative or greengrocer who hasn’t put together all the pieces. I know these people well, and have a good deal of high school friends, but nobody has struck me as genuinely outside the Cathedral.

    I want to successfully establish my own life outside of my family’s orbit, but in the process of doing so, I do not want to be found out as a (LITERAL NAZI FASCIST RACIST HOMOPHOBE) via a tense family conversation. What should I do in order to finish up my high school period and start the next part of my life without running aground of my academic, priestly family and, worst-case scenario, the law? Or should I prepare for a total collapse of civilization within the next 5 years? Your advice would be very appreciated.

    P.S. I promise I am not a shill. Although I am the son of HR officers, they are not currently watching over my shoulder. If you wish to shill-test me, feel free to do so. Freebie: The name of the city is Kiev, not Kyiv.

    • jim says:

      As you have already figured out, college is turning into an expensive and time wasting scam.

      Some career paths, such as HR, require a college degree, but these tend to be oversupplied with accredited idiots, and preference is given to people graduated from certain universities and not others.

      For centuries, the chief benefit of college was where it was very smart people hung out and networked, which is no longer the case unless you hang out with elderly professors.

      Your best career path is a job where you get to hang out, and take instruction from, smart people who are making good money.

      Lots of starving artists in art, music, and design fields. A good start is becoming a gopher for someone who is doing OK. High risk of starving.

      If not planning to party for four years while running up humungous college debt, look around for someone who is doing well, and get a job under someone like him.

      There are some high skill “licensed X” jobs where college has not granted themselves the exclusive right to issue licenses, because the occupation was felt to be too low status for priests, and a license in one of these jobs usually requires reasonable actual smarts and competence, and is rewarded by steady work and good money. If you get good money early, bang a virgin and tell her you want a kid, thus nailing her down to you. First women are the sweetest wives. If you have been following NRx, you have read extensively about game, though reading does not get you far. Game is full of truths that cannot be spoken or written, and have to be actually applied to be understood. It provides a theoretical and intellectual framework for understanding life events that would otherwise be utterly mysterious, confusing and arbitrary. It lives at the intersection of theory and practice. As do ways of making decent money and creating value.

      If you follow neoreaction without being paid to do so, you are smart man with smart man interests. Look for a career that requires smarts. As the average IQ of college graduates plummets, these are diverging from college career paths.

      Value is created by smart productive people hanging with smart productive people. Find smart people producing value and hang with them. College used to be the place where smart, though not necessarily productive, people hung out. Is no longer.

    • Kunning Drueger says:

      You aren’t going to like this advice. Soak your parents for all they are worth. Fake up entrance to some school, some private, lefty joke institution, get them to convert their support to cash you can carry, maybe even di a semester, while you make a move towards legitimate masculine autonomy. Find a man worthy of your time and admiration, and become his apprentice. Sock the “trust fund” money away and learn to live frugally. Abstain from sex unless it’s with hookers, but avoid that too as it is not a worthy investment. Build up a portfolio of skills and abilities while you find strong, powerful men and lend your youth and vigor to their aspirations. Become a servant so you can truly understand what it means to lead. If, by age 27, you still think you need college, become a tranny and get free money (they can’t question you). But honestly, masculine adventurism is way better than sequential castration. If you’ve got the mettle, find a way to become a mercenary. You want to hit your thirties mean, lean, and blueballed to hell and gone. Then comes the rape… I mean marriage by abduction. Just take every opportunity to create children. If you’re lucky, you’ll do it with one worthy woman.

      All the world shall be your enemy, so you owe it to yourself to become their nightmare.

      • jim says:

        > Abstain from sex unless it’s with hookers, but avoid that too as it is not a worthy investment.

        Nuts.

        Every man must learn game. It a world of feral women, it is an essential survival skill. And you cannot learn game from books alone. You have to have game to get married, stay married, and have a happy marriage. And be willing to cheerfully break a few laws. My miraculous ability to talk to cops and sometimes expensive lawyers has made lawbreaking work for me so far, though it might not work so well for someone who lacks that ability, and who is at risk of being railroaded by the public defender.

        • Kunning Drueger says:

          Boomer normalcy bias.

          The Game game is not what it was. The dangers are too great, making the juice unworthy of the squeeze. I didn’t say abstain forever, I said abstain until dangerous. Notice how my advice doesn’t require the nigger peacocking implicit in your advice. A woman needs no skill to make love, just as a woman needs no training to be a homemaker. A man needs skills for both. Abstaining when building the Legend of Self makes a man nearly insane with impetus. GNON piles on the potential energy that you then subvert into your work instead of Game. Only for a time. If a man has something worth holding, worth fighting for, he can better judge if a 17-19yo virgin is going to give him what he needs, or a “more prime” virgin offered up by a peer, an adversary, or a patron.

          This is not the way it should be, and it is only a intermediate measure. Jim, he’s 17. Do you remember being that age? I sort of do. I could drive a stick shift truck while smoking a cigarette and drinking a beer while texting on my flip phone to pick up hard drugs for the “date” that night. I don’t know if my experience ports to this young man, but I know for a fact that my guidance is couched in the vicarious experience of my university classmates who were entering their 20s as I was exiting. I mean, we gave him the same advice: find a liege lord and be his body man (you put it less D&Dfag).

          There’s no pussy shortage for dangerous men, but opportunities to be your own man are rapidly disappearing. Besides, there’s always whores.

          • jim says:

            > The dangers are too great, making the juice unworthy of the squeeze

            The sword of the law has two edges, both of them blunt. If the dangers are too great, live dangerously. Also, make sure you have a good lawyer.

            > A man needs skills for both

            Which skills can only acquired by vigorous practice. Books and the web are necessary, but insufficient.

            • The Cominator says:

              The consequence of practicing the thug life and misstepping is very grave and the probability of doing so is not at all trivial… I do not think it’s for everyone. If you are low in the dark triad type traits that attract women naturally… I tend to think you’re attempts to play the role of a bad guy will fail.

              • jim says:

                > The consequence of practicing the thug life and misstepping is very grave and the probability of doing so is not at all trivial…

                The thug life is defined by losers.

                A dangerous man in something different. Thugs are not dangerous, though women are apt to be fooled. Female alpha radar is prone to false positives, but a reasonably smart woman has good enough alpha radar that she can eventually detect the difference.

                You are rationalizing to justify despair. Have hope and faith, and your rationales will be revealed to you as foolish.

                • The Cominator says:

                  It is too late for me… having seen clownworld rise from hell before my eyes and too much trying and failing have driven all hope and faith in this from me.

                  Even if I could… since no woman other than a childhood sweetheart or your mother (maybe) ever has anything better than fairweather affection for you… is any woman you meet after high school age at the latest ever really be better than a whole?

                • jim says:

                  > It is too late for me… having seen clownworld rise from hell before my eyes and too much trying and failing have driven all hope and faith in this from me.

                  I am older than you, I used to be fatter than you, and I have been through worse than you. I never despaired. It is the counsel of demons.

                  Learn to command women.

                • Adam says:

                  Com… it’s pretty nice having a woman at home that you can have sex with any time that you want. Don’t make it more than that. At least not much more than that.

                  Life is a fight to the death for every living thing. It’s a performance. It’s tough business being a man. Makes it a little more worth it when you have your own pussy.

                  Your saying things are bad, and in doing so protesting the good. Why skip on the good though? You already have to live with the bad, either way.

                  It’s never going to be perfect or ideal. It’s not like your ideal. Let that go and get dirty like everyone else. You might like it.

                • The Cominator says:

                  Well the approaches aren’t entirely exclusive.

                  Restitutor Orbis I believe mentioned married his stripper a while ago and they still get on. So did the only guy who (an asian nerd who I guarantee you couldn’t have gotten laid otherwise) made it out of Enron with his fortune intact. Marriages with whores tend to do better than say marriages with female lawyers. The whore generally on some level wants to become a housewife (at least before she hits the wall) and they are a lot better than normie women about ignoring shit other women and their in laws say…

                  I suppose the worst thing about them is they sap your motivation to deal with normal clownworld women… because its nice when you have trouble in normal life being rejected by fact chicks..
                  being able to meet a much better looking girl than would normally be interested than you… actually has a pleasant personality in many cases too… even redpilled on some things… shes only supposed to give you a lap dance but you end up fucking her raw this is in a short time after meeting her. The cost often being less than what you spend trying to show off status on a 1st date. When you get the hang of it… there is just no real desire to ever go back, don’t tell me it isn’t satisfying to do. I suppose if you’re younger that is the danger… under 25 try to get a nice girl to wife and going to whores will just spoil normie women. Over 35 you need to get your tensions relieved…

                • jim says:

                  > Marriages with whores tend to do better than say marriages with female lawyers.

                  It is easier to find a virtuous woman in a whorehouse than a lawyer’s office, but neither place is a good hunting ground.

                  Best hunting ground is long distance or international tourist hot spot.

                  The problem with whores and lawyerettes is that they have been banged by General Bucknaked, and there is just no way you can compete.

                  When women go looking for men, they do not do it solo, so it is very hard to look for women looking for men if you are solo. To break into and take over a female group, needs a crew. Then when the time comes for social isolation, the leader of the crew assigns every woman, if you have enough crew, to one of the boys. (Draw straws in advance of the break in. Short straw gets the aging fattie to keep her from disrupting the social isolation.)

                  Despair will prevent you from making the necessary research, planning, training, organization, and considerable financial expenditures, thereby totally justifying despair as the rational option. Plan and prepare as if you were preparing to remove an evil man who caused you grief and is likely to continue doing so. Losing weight and lifting iron is the easiest part of it.

                • Frank Matters says:

                  A whore isn’t going to give you a family, so I would say so.

                  I do share your apparently unpopular opinion of US wimmins. They are absolutely terrible nearly to a one. I’m not totally blackpilled and think it’s possible even still to find a workable female here, but I used to be so, at least for personalities like my own. Traveling to different and smaller churches has shown me examples of functioning families I had literally never seen before, but also I have not yet run into anyone single of dating age, or even attached and of dating age, so I am not optimistic about my odds.

                  I think I’m gonna see what it’s like in the balkans, including Turkey, and the eastern Slavlands. Plan to head that way soon enough, hopefully I don’t end up sucked into something that kills me. I really do believe there is something especially rotten about the women western culture has turned out, their nature has been denied to the point it has warped their psyche into something terrible, and I know my God given talents do not include managing broken and psychotic people.

                • Rux says:

                  Get ye into church, even if your faith is weak. Attend the cookouts, pot lucks and fish fry’s. Consider a prayer group or Bible study. Churchmen have daughters, sometimes many. This sounds crass and hokey but go for the girls and stay for the Lord.

                • Pax Imperialis says:

                  “Thugs are not dangerous”

                  True in normal societies. A half truth today in America/West.

                  This is besides the point of discussion (women/what Mr. Smith should do), and a very small disagreement, but it’s an over simplification that can have a dangerous misinterpretation. Especially for young men who have a tendency of applying truths too broadly.

                  While thugs can normally be disposed of easily by even the likes of a 61 year old Bodega worker (Jose Alba), they also have state protection which makes them dangerous by proxy. A progressive DA can and will have police stack up on your door.

                  If you are in a blue state best be ready to pay for a good lawyer and be willing to gamble with a jury. If you are in a red state you probably won’t be gambling with a jury but you’ll still need money for a good lawyer.

                  Plan accordingly.

              • Javier says:

                While you are correct in that the laws are against you, the funny thing is you are more likely to get hit with the law if you fail to practice game than if you act like a pimp. Women use the law to punish weak men, not their demon lovers.

                Just go after women younger than you, the point where people even go “damn dude shes’ pretty young dontcha think?” everything will work out. Trust me.

        • The Cominator says:

          Jim you have to be plausibly dangerous or have a job women cream for.. or like drive a motorcycle to get pussy in the US nowadays. Most people should not assume they can talk to cops like you can.

          If you can’t do either of those three categories (and spergs can’t) hookers are reasonable until and unless you can find a foreign wife… in the US strippers are the best way.

          • jim says:

            You and Kunning Drueger despair.

            Despair is self destructive, and leads to self destructive sexual deviations, which sexual deviations never provide the joy in reality that is imagined in fantasy. Have faith.

            It is the will of Gnon that those obedient to his commands shall fill the stars and subdue them.

            Despair is not prudence. Prudence is a virtue, but despair is the counsel of demons.

            • Kunning Druegger says:

              This tendency to read one line then copy/paste it over the whole missive is frustrating. Putting Game over self-development is just stupid. Game can be developed purely through non-sexual encounters with females. They have one, repeat ONE, playbook, and they use it for everything. Learning to manage females, learning how to tease and subdue and tittilate and punish and utilize and ignore, can only be done experientially. You cannot learn it from books or the internet, and dating apps are worthless as it is just filtering for desperate, mentally twisted, self-deluded, over-empowered females.

              It is not despair to put away the wants of the flesh for a time and immerse yourself in the work of being a Dangerous Man. Coming through that fire with tempered steel and pure gold will attract women of every type, and having real status and substance, as well as the council of older, wiser men to judge which womb + noises will best suit your legend, positions the man to build a family alongside the Work he’s already developed.

              Your council may be valuable to the 1% of the wisest, most self controlled, most self-actualized young men. For the rest, you are telling them “I went through a minefield, many minefields, and I’m just fine.” it is better to expend youth and luck and energy on things that are rare than it is to hunt pussy, purely by the measure of scarcity. A dangerous man with wealth and status will never want for female attention.

              • Adam says:

                It is all a part of the same process. Part of the “plough your way through a sea of whores” is your own development. It’s not just that you found one better than the rest. You also the right man for the job. Had nearly anyone met their wives earlier in the process, likely not worked out so well.

                I say go for it all, honestly. Work, women, hobbies etc. all take time to develop. Imagine the life you want, and just start chipping away at it. Let it develop naturally.

              • Neurotoxin says:

                “It is not despair to put away the wants of the flesh for a time and immerse yourself in the work of being a Dangerous Man.”

                Sex, from making the initial move onward, is something that must be developed through practice. A girl who gets dripping wet for a Dangerous Man, then in bed quickly realizes that he’s a 30-year-old virgin, is going to lose all attraction to him in a femtosecond.

                • Kunning Druegger says:

                  I’m not saying you’re wrong on the theory, but I am saying this situation is akin to a cavalry genius from the 19th century trying to tell infantry conscripts from the 20th century all about battlefield tactics.

                  “Just charge, you gutless fools, show them the steel and they’ll break!”

                  “Massed artillery?!? Pah, I’ve faced the Prussians a time or two, stop making excuses!”

                  “What even is a ‘machined gun?’ Case forged? All cannon are case forged, stop being so fainthearted!”

                  “It is a martial certainty that, when ensconced, a warfare of maneuver must be engaged and success shall follow. This is not complicated, honestly. Just go around the flank.”

                • jim says:

                  The difference between me and your nineteenth century cavalry officer is that I was in the trenches four years ago, and have been in the trenches from time to time all my life. Just break the sex laws that forbid the mating dance. All the people that get arrested and imprisoned are blue pilled innocents. The red pilled who actually do the mating dance get away with it.

                • Neurotoxin says:

                  Kunning:

                  Military tech changes on human-noticeable timescales. Female sexual psychology doesn’t.

                  Within the last month I had a woman – who knows I’m married – try to get one-on-one with me. This is not because I was trying to seduce her, but because I was automatically exhibiting the behavior patterns that I internalized while I was single. My point being No, things have not gone through some mystic phase change since I was on the market.

                  Or, to put it in Joe Biden terms: Come on, man.

                • Starman says:

                  Do note that Space Apostle Elon has ten children using his methods of reproduction (his methods ignore and doesn’t bother with the modern McMarriage ceremony).

                  With those methods, Elon has as much children as Bill Gates, Jeff Bezos, and Donald Trump combined.

                • Pooch says:

                  Do note that Space Apostle Elon has ten children using his methods of reproduction (his methods ignore and doesn’t bother with the modern McMarriage ceremony).

                  How many of his children are transsexual?

                • Starman says:

                  @Pooch

                  ”How many of his children are transsexual?”

                  1/10

                  Under this system, Elon’s r-strategy works better than Bill Gates’s and Jeff Bezos’s reliance on McMarriage certificates.

                  Same principle that Starlinks rely on. Mass produce many cheaply so that the constellation will work even if some of them will fail.

              • jim says:

                > Your council may be valuable to the 1% of the wisest, most self controlled, most self-actualized young men. For the rest, you are telling them “I went through a minefield, many minefields, and I’m just fine.”

                A valid criticism, but prudence, courage, faith, hope, and hard effort is good start for every man.

                The tyndale bible, one of the first translations, translates Paul as

                Do ye not remember how that the unrighteous shall not inherit the Kingdom of God? Be not deceived. For neither fornicators, nor worshippers of images, nor whoremongers, nor weaklings, nor abusers of themselves with males, nor thieves, nor the coveteous, nor […] shall inheret the kyngdome of God.

                nor weaklings.

                Which most bibles translate as trannies.

                Seems to me that “weaklings” make sense in the context of his admonition to women that they shall be saved in childbirth. In context, “childbirth” is a synechdoche for the female role, being the hardest, most dangerous, and most important part of that role. So, if demanding that women perform the female role, he demands that men perform the male role. Which is also hard.

          • Adam says:

            Buy a convertible, women love them. I just helped my son buy a used BMW Z4. Pussy magnet for under 10k. You live near me, start looking for convertibles. There everywhere here.

            And for gods sake stop telling yourself your a sperg. Your shooting yourself in the foot. Start telling yourself you are alpha. Start believing it. Soon enough you’ll get comfortable with it, and start acting like it.

            • Pax Imperialis says:

              BMW for under 10k? Surely a typo?

              Cars are only as good of a chick magnet as good as the car is used. If you have an Alpha’s car but behave/think/drive like Elliot Rodger… well women are going to notice.

              Even a budget, family man’s car like a 20k sedan can be attractive. Just be prepared to have the punch line at parties that you almost went to jail for going way above 100 miles per hour in a cheap souped up Honda Civic or something.

              Not saying one should risk prison, but women do pick up on how confident a guy drives more than what he is driving.

              The magic of expensive cars is that most men automatically start behaving more confident when they get one, and confidence is what is usually most attractive to women in the first place.

              Maybe getting an expensive car fixes the problem, maybe not, but ultimately he does need to stop calling himself a sperg.

              Psychological power of prayer is real.

              • Kunning Druegger says:

                It bogles my mind how few men with money actually take tactical driving courses.

                https://summitpointtraining.com/

                There’s nothing like the abilities taught at a school like this for making the dick in your head gain a few inches. And honestly, it’s just valuable if you live in a car based region.

              • Adam says:

                South Florida is a used car paradise. Especially if you are mechanically inclined. I like BMWs myself. The in-line six from the late 90s to the late 00s are 300k mile motors no problem. Once you own a bmw, as a driver or an enthusiast you will not want anything else.

              • Aidan says:

                Still possible to find old sports cars under 10k – I’m trying very hard at the moment to convince myself not to buy a super clean Saab Viggen I found

          • Neurotoxin says:

            Cominator, it isn’t that hard. I’ve said this before, but you don’t actually need the killer’s 1,000-yard stare to be attractive to women. Just a devil-may-care party boy who plays by his own rules suffices. I’m speaking from real-world experience, not theory. Women love men they can’t control.

            Understand that you’re going to fail some shit tests. That’s part of the learning process. Just learn from it and keep going. The proper attitude is “Next!” You didn’t learn to walk without falling down. (And FWIW, no other man has ever passed 100% of her shit tests either.)

            A woman doesn’t have to do anything to reach her full potential as a woman. A man has to grow into manhood by being hardened in the refiner’s fire.

          • A2 says:

            Here is a thread about two strippers going to Tampa for the weekend.

            https://archive.ph/tObSa

            • The Cominator says:

              Give me the Tl;Dr version.

              • A2 says:

                But that would take all the “fun” out of it.

                I’ll say the sheer amount of wretched chaos is impressive. It just gets worse and worse the longer you read.

                The funniest part is possibly when the black stripper gets impatient with the unskilled pimping out of the white stripper, and shows the gang how to get the business really rolling. Don’t worry, the strippers in the end get back to their home city … Detroit. Perhaps that’s enough of a summary?

            • Kunning Druegger says:

              Don’t read it. It isn’t funny. It isn’t even sad. It is exactly what They want for my kids, for our kids. I’m not even angry right now. I think I’m numb.

              At some point, They will cry out for mercy. I will have none to give. Jesus fucking wept.

              • A2 says:

                As the sage said, keep your daughters off the pole.

              • The Cominator says:

                Eh I read a version elsewhere (I can’t read long sequences of short tweets). The most dramatic elements didn’t happen apparently (no police record in Florida where all arrests have public records).

                The most unusual element of the story is the white girls pimp and simp were living together… I’m very surprised that situation didn’t end up with anyone dead.

                Guarantee you though it wasn’t mentioned the white girl in this story was a bad bad drug addict and the black girl wasn’t… all stripper/hooker dysfunction to this degree generally ties to hard drugs.

            • Pooch says:

              Wow. Extremely entertaining.

          • S.J., Esquire says:

            “or like drive a motorcycle”

            Dude…. I have good news for you, if you think that “driving a motorcycle” is like some weird exotic thing (!) then I’m here to tell you it’s really easy, you should start doing it right now. No guarantee on the free pussy but who cares.

            • The Cominator says:

              Motorcycle can definitely get you pussy but if you aren’t a natural at balance (and I’m not) you’ll be dead (or perhaps worse) within a month of getting one and I would be.

              • jim says:

                Yes, I tried a motorcycle. It was great, but I injured myself, and the injury impaired one of my shoulders for several years. Could have been my head. A convertible works also, less effective and more expensive, but a whole lot safer, and you can get a really cool old convertible cheap.

                If you can afford it, sending a driver on gofer mission related to your date also works.

                • The Cominator says:

                  Even our blogmaster the advocate of living dangerously notes that one should be cautious about motorcycles even though if you can handle them they prettymuch guarantee you pussy.

                  They are not for everyone… but I would ask you to consider that acting like you plausibly might murder people in nightspots on a regular basis without 1) Having to eventually do something stupid 2) Getting killed yourself by someone much more dangerous than you 3) Getting arrested 4) Getting exposed as a larper fake tough guy (and EVERYONE hates that type of guy)

                  Michael Franzese repeatedly said even in the mafia where there was professional utility to violence in many circumstances… that the Tommy DeSimone types who needed to show everyone what brutal violent men they were almost universally tended to end up dead.

                • Pooch says:

                  Also a boat. I live near the water and male status as viewed by women is weighed heavily by who has a boat. You’re not going to find many dudes with nice boats lacking in pussy around here.

                • The Cominator says:

                  Pooch true enough in Florida as well.

                • Kunning Druegger says:

                  Be careful with going maritime, the sea might seduce you and you’ll forget all about pussy. In all seriousness, boat culture is expensive but massively rewarding. I’m happy that my hoe and I chose the hoe, but I still dream about the sea. there’s really nothing like living and working on the water.

              • S.J., Esquire says:

                “if you aren’t a natural at balance”

                Bro.

                I mean I won’t tell you what’s best for you, only you can decide this, but if you have “balance problems” that you feel are going to impair your ability to motorcycle then I am amazed you are even walking around. Gyroscopic force my man, the bike does the work!

                I’m just very pro motorcycle, is all. I’m not kidding when I say that riding one is almost the most fun a person can have, better than “pussy”.

                • Aidan says:

                  I also advocate bikes on the merits of fun- and driving anything hard and fast gives you adrenaline desensitization, which keeps a man calm in the face of danger and makes it easier to talk to women

                • Sher Singh says:

                  Question about this – how to describe the following:

                  In times of acute stress or danger all that happens to me is I get really bored, things slow down, I recognize my motor functions are decayed – so focus on bigger movements.

                  I optimize my gear around retard-proof over 100% effectiveness – ie a sword that’s easier to swing straight vs miss with – loss prevention.

                  During really bad times I’ll have this half sombre half tranquil thought – now it’s time to die – then my mind blanks – thoughts go still. Tactical mind still active, assertive.

                  ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕਾਖਾਲਸਾਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕੀਫਤਿਹ

                • jim says:

                  I also. Axe works well.

                • Wulfgar Thundercock III says:

                  Sher Singh, that feeling of time slowing is called tachypsychia. That is a different reaction than your loss of fine motor skills. The way to approach the issue of fine motor skills is to practice, practice, practice until it is beyond the need for thought. The tachypsychia makes it easier to watch the fight and choose when to act, and constant practice can offset the fine motor skill issue. On Killing and On Combat are good books that talk about the psychological and physiological reactions to battle.

                  Axe is good because it does not rely as much on fine motor skills and is a more potent psychological weapon. Still, practice fighting with it, especially if you can find good teachers or some good videos of axe combat.

    • Ghost says:

      Well Winston, my first advice is to avoid room 101 like the plaque.

      Occupation wise I would recommend HVAC repair. Home AC and furnace. Pay is good and lots of work.

      On the woman question, once you get established, take one. Just tell her that you want her and go from there.

      Aside from that, keep your hair cut, be clean shaven, firm handshake and confident tone and eye contact.

      Not sure why you mentioned notzees. Don’t think there are any here.

      • Pax Imperialis says:

        “keep your hair cut, be clean shaven”

        Exactly what a Nazi or a baby killer soldier would say! Joking aside… he’s a 17 year old man living in blue tribe lands. The amount of social pressure that exists in that environment is huge, and anyone who steps outside of the party line is denounce as a Nazi or similar.

        Nazi has no meaning today other than heretic.

    • Adam says:

      My son is your age, and plenty smart. He works for me now, learning to become a cabinet maker. By the time you would have graduated college, he will have a down payment for a house. By that time he will have the experience to start a business of his own with me.

      Find a high end cabinet and architectural millwork shop and start sweeping floors and making deliveries. Finish carpentry is one of those trades where once you learn it (it is tough to learn) you can pretty much move anywhere you like and find work. And you will learn enough about the other trades, and fixing machines not to need to hire someone yourself. Saves a lot of money and headache over a lifetime.

      Not to mention, no women in the workplace, and no HR. No blacks or Jews for that matter either.

      And like Jim said, learn game. Go have fun with girls, at some point you’ll find one that is better than the rest.

      Best put the opinions of your parents and neighbors out of your mind. Sooner you do that, the sooner you’ll be living your life, not theirs.

    • alf says:

      I was already shoulder-deep into college when I got into all this. When the truth finally dawned on me and I changed my life 180 degrees, it was messy. Family didn’t understand, and I said some things in anger I regret.

      What I don’t regret is making that decision to follow my guts. Man am I glad I made that decision. A man with open eyes following through makes more happen in five years than a man with closed eyes in five lifetimes. So I say, go for what you really want. Your parents won’t understand, but that’s OK. If it makes you happy, it’ll eventually make your parents happy.

      • Adam says:

        > A man with open eyes following through makes more happen in five years than a man with closed eyes in five lifetimes.

        Well said.

    • Wulfgar Thundercock III says:

      I am going to take the contrarian position and say that college is not a terrible idea, as long as you are not getting stuck with the bill. Use scholarships and grants to foot the bill and have your parents cover the rest. So long as you are not going into debt, college is a useful experience, just not for the reasons that normies think.

      There are valuable skills you can learn at college, but not usually from classes. Learn to speak the lingo of the cucked commie phaggot, learn how to guard your thoughts, how to pass as a normie and when to unleash your power level, instead. Finally, experience with the fairer sex. You can maybe even find a reasonably smart but naive art girl and knock her up. Hang out with the engineering and science majors, particularly chemical and mechanical engineering students. Take hard science classes to fit in. Use the nice college gym to get fucking huge.

      Basically, use the time on someone else’s dime to learn how to deal with people, gain valuable practical experience, and experiment with hustles and side gigs. The degree will be worthless, but people do not go to Harvard because of the quality of its instruction. You are going to learn things and have to face the reality of what it looks like to have to ignore reality. You have the opportunity to experiment with your personal style and presentation and get feedback. Not the faggy, “find yourself,” but authentic personal branding. You get a very valuable chance to try and find a social position you can exploit.

      And again, this only holds true if you are getting someone else to pay for it. DO NOT pay for college under any circumstances. Just not worth it.

      • Pooch says:

        I agree with this. You are going to have better results learning how to thrive within the existing system and institutions, not outright opposing it as some esoteric Ted Kaczynski living in the wilderness weirdo.

        If I were to have a son right now I would tell him to go to college (whichever is the cheapest) and get a degree/skills that will allow for a high paying remote work job and also learn game in order to obtain a wife. That way he can get started on forming a family right away by skipping the degenerate period of city living in a tiny high cost apartment box. Don’t think I would give this advice to a daughter however.

        • Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

          There are plenty of online degree mills these days that will provide any anointment in the whig priesthood you desire with a minimum of trouble and treasure.

          No reason not to game the system, and good employers are perfectly willing to take any excuse you can give them.

          • Wulfgar Thundercock III says:

            No point in online school. You are not going to get the social practice you can get from college online, and trying to find a woman online is best done through tinder.

            • Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

              The point is jamming the signal. It’s something any man 1 sd IQ and a few hours to spare each week can do. The degrees are worthless so it is only meet and right to replace them with a farce of equivalent worth in expense, if needed.

            • Pooch says:

              You are not going to get the social practice you can get from college online, and trying to find a woman online is best done through tinder.

              Not only with women, but social practice that can be valuable in your work life as well by being able to talk among the upper class particularly if you are in sales.

              • Wulfgar Thundercock III says:

                Precisely this. You need to be able to mimic the talk, and maybe sneak in some deniable real talk to feel someone out. Women are not the be all, end all of social interaction. It is more important to learn the mores and speech of the upper class men, even if only to be able to pass as one of them. Always remember, though, that you are merely passing through them, not becoming one of them. Do not risk assimilation.

                • jim says:

                  Hey, I am upper class.

                  I was born and raised in a little upper class island that had mostly resisted the debasing. Went directly from imbibing the red pill in the air that I breathed in school and childhood, then got somewhat blue pilled by the environment, then when game first appeared on the internet, was suddenly familiar and comfortable as an old shoe.

                  A lot of people get the black pill and deep spiritual crisis because they recognize red pill reality and cannot let go of blue pill morality. Never having really internalized blue pill morality in the first place, I scarcely noticed shrugging it off.

                • Wulfgar Thundercock III says:

                  Do you speak in public the same way you write on this blog? How much of that upper class island remains?

                  He can learn our speech, the speech of men with chests, but he must also learn to speak with men without chests.

                • Wulfgar Thundercock III says:

                  Blue pill morality died the moment I found the red pill, because I went looking for the red pill due to the failures of the blue pill. I am not talking about any of that. I am talking about how to hide among the people who have not yet taken the red pill. Conceal his true power level and avoid the cruel eyes and arms of the Cathedral.

                • Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

                  The main disconnect here is that you are looking at something like ‘online degree mill’ as like a ‘lifestyle choice’, the same way you look at ‘going to college’ as like a ‘lifestyle choice’.

                  The whole point is that it is *not* a lifestyle choice.

                  That you are *not* incurring major marginal costs, be it in terms of time, money, place of residence, social circles, occupations, or any other entanglements you either have now or are looking to pursue going forwards.

        • jim says:

          Your advice is contaminated by normality bias.

          You do not acquire useful skills in college. You may acquire accreditation that gives you permission to exercise skills acquired by other means, but if so, better first scope out if the accreditation actually opens useful doorways. Large piles of entirely worthless accreditation abound.

          I was there long before things got as bad as they are now, and the only useful thing I learned was spinors and definite integrals within the complex plane, which have not been terribly useful. Theoretically all sorts of important and interesting stuff was covered, but I either learned that stuff by other means long before I encountered it in college, or rightly ignored it. I learned a lot about the standard particle model, enough to understand that it is a pile of ad hoc epicycles piled on epicycles.

          • Pooch says:

            I had zero programming exposure before college. Graduated from college knowing how to code that landed me a job in programming. Could not have not that without college. It was not just the degree.

            I understand that there are coding bootcamps and such nowadays that did not exist when I attended school. I would consider those for my son, but I would still classify that as thriving within the system not outright opposing it and telling young men to go become a prepper/plumber in the woods or something.

            • Red says:

              I learned exactly nothing from the college text books on coding. However I was able to spend time with very bright people and network with them. That proved very useful when it came to getting jobs.

              • Pooch says:

                That and Also colleges tend to have a deep network to help graduates land their first job with many companies conducting interviews right at campus. This is valuable because companies tend to not want to hire someone cold with zero prior experience.

                Factor in that if you are smart going to an in state school for mostly free with academic scholarship is achievable and college is not a bad deal for a young man. Also there tons of chicks around to practice game on.

                • jim says:

                  Viewing that deep network from the hiring end, it delivers priests with computer science degrees from famous and respected institutions who cannot pass simple programing questions.

                  So the network may these days be less functional than you recall it being. These days, it is a network for people who can guarantee your company is correctly converged. Which I suppose would be useful to some employers.

                • someDude says:

                  Are these graduates having trouble with programming syntax, language features or the logical reasoning that goes into a computer program itself?

              • jim says:

                Networking with very bright people has been the primary benefit of college for several centuries.

                A benefit that has gone away now that the average IQ of college graduates has dropped below one hundred. You are suffering from normalcy bias.

                • Pooch says:

                  A benefit that has gone away now that the average IQ of college graduates has dropped below one hundred. You are suffering from normalcy bias.

                  Depends on the area of study. I am still seeing the founding engineers of billion dollar tech unicorns starting out in college and using college to network with co-founders, even if they drop out to found the company before graduating.

                  The diversity bringing down the average IQ in college are just not majoring in engineering. If you major in engineering, you are likely to find the students around you are going to still be pretty smart.

                • jim says:

                  > I am still seeing the founding engineers of billion dollar tech unicorns starting out in college and using college to network.

                  I no longer see them using college to network. Do you have any recent examples?

                • Pooch says:

                  I was readiing about the founders of Plaid recently who met as interns at Bain Capital circa 2012 which internships would likely not have been available to them if not for college connections. Maybe 2012 is not recent enough I don’t know.

    • chris says:

      If you can get your parents to fund the degree, and can handle the maths, consider an engineering or computer science degree (depending on the school, a computer science degree might not even require much maths). You will get skills and qualifications that are portable around the world in case of a collapse at home. Furthermore, those courses are generally less woke than the others.

      • The Cominator says:

        Bad advice unless you’re high level MIT tier…

      • jim says:

        Most people at university are not only wasting money, but time, time that they could be using to build a career and a family.

        It can provide positive value, though not if you are paying current prices for it, particularly if you get qualification for a job that is by law reserved for people with certain accreditation, and many important jobs are by law, or by defacto effect of government regulation, reserved for people with certain accreditation. But for a great many people, pretty much everyone who does not get a degree for which there are reserved jobs, it no longer provides value.

        University courses in programming and engineering were never value.

        • chris says:

          A lot of countries around the world do regulate engineering.

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regulation_and_licensure_in_engineering

          Computer Science not so much, but CS degrees can be done in 3 years which is not very long in the grand scheme of things.

          And if his parents are dead set on him going to college, and he can persuade them to pay for it as a result, it would be better than doing a Liberal Arts or related degree.

          If he can’t get his parents to pay for it, or get a scholarship, then college probably isn’t worth it, especially for a CS degree as you can work in the field without it.

      • A2 says:

        As far as CS goes, my impression is it’s very hit and miss. A BS degree might help you get your first job, but if you’re self-motivated you could equally well spend the same years working on open source and end up more skilled.

        (OK, you will not be great at the theory and math parts, but then again you might not need that. Maybe algorithms.)

        • A2 says:

          I’ll add I know several senior guys who hire guys (GHGs?) who put little or no weight on your degree and a lot of weight on what you’ve done, presumably because it’s not unknown to slide through a CS program without becoming competent. Without a degree, you might on the other hand get filtered out by Megacorp HR at an early stage.

          If you want to get into management, I believe it’s a great help to be tall, like 6’2″.

        • Aidan says:

          Everyone I know who does well in programming was a computer guy before his CS degree, and taught himself how to do things while passing his entirely worthless classes.

          • jim says:

            Exactly so.

            I never encountered an engineer who learned programming at college. He might have a computer science degree, but it was utterly irrelevant to his job skills.

    • Javier says:

      If you must do college, go finance. MBA, nothing less. You’ll need an undergrad, that can be something easy. Accounting is fine too. Nothing else is remotely worth it. Do not go into 6 figure debt for a faggoty art or music degree.

      Gird your loins (mentally speaking) against the poz, infiltrate the system, and make friends with other people like you. Build a faction within the cathedral and work against it. Conquest’s laws don’t have to work against us. Fight the leviathan while eating its lunch.

      Otherwise, skip college, get a job. Study for certs; they are easy to get (~1-3 months of study) and look good on a resume. Apprentice, learn skills, meet people, network. If you live with your folks, move out ASAP. Get out of your comfort zone. Put yourself in a place where you need to fight kill beg or starve. You’ll be amazed at all the things you can learn in a short time. Good luck!

      • The Cominator says:

        This… I went engineering horrible horrible mistake. Accounting and Finance were the ONLY things worth going into.

    • Upravda says:

      I presume you’re American living in USA. I’m not so take this cum grano salis, but these days all of “The West” is just a province of GAE anyway.

      As first, honour your parents. They might be “Cathedral apparatchiks”, but they are still your mother and father.

      If they insist on college, and you can not refuse it, try to apply for some college, typically technnical, that can teach you at least something useful. Don’t know about situation in USA, but in Croatia you still can learn something useful in technical colleges, especially those that organize some practice in industry. In this way, you can also meet smart folks with whom of for whom you can work later.

      Try applying acquired knowledge in real life, e.g. if you take some electrical engineering course, teach yourself also about wiring a home and wire that cellar or something where introduction of light bulbs is long overdue. It will give you confidence in yourself.

      Regarding social life, most of the greengrocers are reactionaries if you dig deep enough. Also, video games are cool – when blizzard is outside or heat wave from Sahara. In all the other circumstances, go outdoors or do something useful – fishing, beekeeping, carpentry, some smart reading, you name it. In that way, you will also meet above average folks with similar interests.

      Regarding women… heh, our courteous host and most of the commentariat here would probably call me “purple pilled” because I do not like much that notion of “Game”, however:
      1. Women are attracted in men who have self confidence. Your mother was attracted to your father because of that, my mother to my father, our grandmothers to our grandfathers. All women are like that, be they whores or madonnas. Be self confident, don’t just act like you are self-confident (and that is my greatest objection to notion of Game).
      2. Don’t let women mould you. It is kind of OK to be gallant, but don’t do anything that does not come naturally to you just because you think you will gain attention from girls, be that smoking or visiting some fancy restaurant.
      3. I would not advise you promiscuous life style.

      • Neurotoxin says:

        “Be self confident, don’t just act like you are self-confident (and that is my greatest objection to notion of Game).”

        The mask becomes the face. This is one of the important propositions of Game.

        Habit is not always a bad thing; it can be a good thing.

        • Aidan says:

          Shouldn’t frame it like that. Confidence and command are natural to a strong, competent man. Its not putting on a mask, but shedding the spiritual Harrison Bergeron inhibitors to your masculinity.

          • Neurotoxin says:

            I agree that the narratives we tell ourselves about ourselves are very important. “Mask” may not be the best way of thinking about it.

            But I was interpreting Upravda as saying “Game is basically a bunch of dishonest fakery practiced by poseurs.” It’s gets up my nose when people say that because when the metal meets the road there is no difference between being fake and being genuine. Those aren’t even meaningful categories.

            Here’s the example I used in this forum a couple of years ago: If a girl at a bar asks you to hold her purse while she goes to the bathroom, and you refuse (even when she doubles down, which she will), you’re not pretending you have enough self-confidence to refuse: you actually refused.

            • Kunning Druegger says:

              > there is no difference between being fake and being genuine

              As someone who has greatly suffered from subordinates and superiors who lied their way into their positions, I cannot disagree with this statement vehemently enough. This insane proposition is quite possibly the predicate for making the already challenging problem of “fixing” bureaucracy impossible. In every category that matters, liars are the secondary problem, and people that reward lying are the primary problem.

              • Neurotoxin says:

                Kunning, my comment was meant for a specific context. Obviously there is such a thing as a diabolically deceitful liar in the realm of, say, politics.

            • Upravda says:

              Nah.

              I consider all that Game stuff simply as a tool set for setting relationships with women. Not necessarily sexual. And with The woman.

              Yes, there are a lot of dishonest fakers and poseurs who practice Game. As with any other skill set.

              However, many of the Game axioms are simply commons sense, regretfully in short supply these days in “The West”. And my second biggest objection is that many of those axioms are expressed in needlessly confrontational way.

              If you say “chicks dig jerks”, it is much more confrontational than simply saying “women are attracted to men who have self confidence”. If you start talking about “Dread Game”, it is much more confrontational than simply saying “be a man whom other women, beside yours, may find attractive”.

              But, I didn’t understand your example about holding girl’s purse. Would you care to elaborate?

              • jim says:

                > And my second biggest objection is that many of those axioms are expressed in needlessly confrontational way

                We are facing a demon worshiping religion. Confrontation is unavoidable.

                If you show courage, if you deny the superior holiness of those who would destroy you, you are being “confrontational”.

                You may be an old type atheist, but you are going to find yourself shouted down by the worshipper of demons.

                If you express the truths of the red pill in a non confrontational way, the worshippers of demons will smell weakness and fear. They will attack, fiercely and in a mob. You will be destroyed. There is no alternative to expressing them in the most direct fashion, expressing them in a way that denies the superior holiness of the mob that shall be summoned to destroy you.

              • jim says:

                > If you say “chicks dig jerks”, it is much more confrontational than simply saying “women are attracted to men who have self confidence”.

                It concisely compacts two red pill truths – that females go for alpha, and that female perception of alpha is different from male perceptions. You have to be not just self confident, but also an asshole. There is no alterative.

                > But, I didn’t understand your example about holding girl’s purse. Would you care to elaborate?

                If you did not understand his example, your utter incompetence at game, and complete incomprehension of female nature, is so deep and hopeless that you will never understand until you adopt a humbler attitude to your superiors.

                All my life, long before there were such words as “game”, or “the red pill” that was completely obvious to me, came in the air I breathed as a child. It is as if you are asking someone to explain his mysterious and incomprehensible claim that rocks fall downwards.

                This stuff is so obvious that failure to understand indicates willful blindness to what has always been right in front of everyone’s nose. You will never comprehend women or game as long as you keep your frame that willful and obstinate blindness to reality is a form of moral superiority.

                • The Cominator says:

                  Girls used to do the hold my purse as a common shit test and they really would do that one, for whatever reason they don’t do that one very often anymore… while it may have seemed like a rather simple courtesy (and I don’t think you should refuse women every simple courtesy, I always found that girls who smoked responded genuinely favorably to you lighting their cigarettes for them for example) the correct answer to this was no.

                • Mike in Boston says:

                  But, I didn’t understand your example about holding girl’s purse. Would you care to elaborate?

                  If you did not understand his example, your utter incompetence at game, and complete incomprehension of female nature, is … deep and hopeless…

                  Once again I have a quibble that might help illustrate the point. I don’t think refusing to hold a girl’s purse is the only move. It’s hard to say without being there in the spur of the moment, but I think I would have happily agreed to hold a girl’s purse. When she came out of the restroom I would have handed it off to one of my buddies and denied that she had ever given me anything to hold. (“Purse? What purse? How much have you had to drink, I’ve never seen you before.”)

                  Or if I had held onto it, there is no way on earth I would ever have handed it right back. At the very least there might have been a game of keep-away, followed by me stiff-arming her while I examined its contents and made sarcastic remarks.

                  Said another way, there’s a fine line between being an asshole and just being a merciless tease, and depending on the girl the latter may be all you need. My wife is a gentle sort, and when we were dating I teased her nonstop and brutally, but did not need to cross the line to full-on asshole more than occasionally. I am by nature an easygoing guy. It’s true that I have never taken shit from anyone, but to me that’s not the same thing as being an asshole.

                • jim says:

                  > said another way, there’s a fine line between being an asshole and just being a merciless tease

                  While being a merciless tease is better, being an asshole is easier, and girls do not seem to appreciate the subtle difference. Not worth sweating over. Female alpha radar was designed for simpler times.

                • Neurotoxin says:

                  Mike in Boston:

                  I have a quibble… I don’t think refusing to hold a girl’s purse is the only move. … I think I would have happily agreed to hold a girl’s purse. When she came out of the restroom I would have handed it off to one of my buddies and denied that she had ever given me anything to hold.

                  Sure, there are many ways of not complying, but the central point that blue-pilled dudes need to hear is don’t comply.

              • Neurotoxin says:

                And my second biggest objection is that many of those axioms are expressed in needlessly confrontational way. If you say “chicks dig jerks”, it is much more confrontational than simply saying “women are attracted to men who have self confidence”.

                No, there’s a definite difference. Women are attracted to confident men but they love jerks even more. And beyond jerk and into evil. Look up the love letters that convicted killers in prison get. There is an infinity of such cases.

                Pinker’s Blank Slate cites an anthropology paper that found that in some tribe, men who have killed get more mates than those who haven’t.

                I also tried the distinction myself when I was in my active experimentation phase. I tried being confident and civil – at a time when I really was confident, because things were going well – and being more of an asshole. The result: asshole me did better with women.

                The purse thing: It has been a couple of years, but IIRC I was responding to someone who was basically saying “If you refuse to hold her purse when you have a gut-level instinct to comply and hold it, that’s dishonest; that’s not the real you.”

                My point being that this whole “the real you” thing is garbage. If you tell her “No,” then plainly you have the balls to tell her “No.” The whole idea of being true to yourself – in this particular context – is just self-confusing argle-bargle.

                If I can quote from memory the movie Hitch (which starts out well but then he turns into a wuss at the end):

                Hitch’s client: “I don’t know; I’m not sure these shoes are really me.”
                Hitch: “‘You’ is a fluid concept. You paid for the shoes. You look great in the shoes. Don’t overthink it.”

                • Upravda says:

                  @Neurotoxin – and Purse Unholders 🙂

                  It seems I was really slammed for not getting the purse example. 🙂

                  So, you were trying to say about holding a purse for woman that is not yours, that you met in a bar or maybe know from passing? It is highly unlikely that someone that doesn’t know you well or at all would give you her purse just like that. It would be abysmally stupid. So, no, I have never even heard for such shit test.

                  And no, I would not hold the stranger’s purse, although not for some reason of Game, passing shit tests, etc, but because of common sense. Don’t take purse from strangers. And if the purse is actually empty, then she is clearly fuck you around so again – no reason and no point in holding the stranger’s purse.

                  @Jim

                  Yes, we are facing demon worshiping religion that needs to be openly confronted. For now, with words. Strong words.

                  However, all that stuff about Game existed since time immemorial, and will continue to exist while there are men and women, regardless of current affairs. So, I don’t find it necessary that confrontational wording from one area be transferred to another.

                • jim says:

                  > It is highly unlikely that someone that doesn’t know you well or at all would give you her purse just like that

                  You would be surprised.

                  Women are hungry for alpha. Therefore take risks no man would take, in order that some man will take advantage of them.

                  > However, all that stuff about Game existed since time immemorial, and will continue to exist while there are men and women, regardless of current affairs.

                  I lived through the time when knowledge of game was erased. The basic mechanism was not getting the joke.

                  First generation goes through the motions of official belief, but treats it as a joke, second generation does believe in official truth but knows not everyone takes it too seriously, and when trouble unfolds, believe in official truth on sundays but not on weekdays, third generation has forgotten what the first generation knew. Disaster unfolds, and the fourth generation hold a research program on the internet.

                • Neurotoxin says:

                  Upravda at 2022-07-14 at 06:28

                  You’re getting the right answer for the wrong reason here.

              • Mike in Boston says:

                While being a merciless tease is better, being an asshole is easier

                I guess it depends on your personality. If I got angry, I used to exaggerate the anger just to keep girls off balance, but it always felt like a performance because it was a performance. For me it was more natural, and fun, to be a merciless tease. I still tease the hell out of my wife, and it’s still fun.

                Sure, there are many ways of not complying, but the central point that blue-pilled dudes need to hear is don’t comply.

                Exactly. That’s why I wanted to offer another example of not complying, so our compatriots could focus on the principle and not get hung up on one specific way to apply the principle.

                The principle is just to not be a compliant, indecisive “nice guy“. Instead demonstrate amused mastery. Heartiste really did a great job of abstracting individual examples into general principles.

          • Wulfgar Thundercock III says:

            The mask is what you wear to live among normies, the true self is the self-confident, capable, and dangerous man underneath. A fun game is to pull of the mask in front of normies then make a show of putting it back on. They react like a child to peekaboo, but afraid. Then they act like spooked livestock, until they calm back down and forget you are a monster under a pleasant mask.

            • Contaminated NEET says:

              >A fun game is to pull of the mask in front of normies then make a show of putting it back on.

              That sounds really cool, but it’s vague. What’s a concrete example of doing this? Tell me an anecdote about a time when you pulled off the mask to play with the normies.

              • Wulfgar Thundercock III says:

                I have a bunch of body language and facial expressions that I do as habit to fit in with the others and be part of the group. I was talking about something and they said that I was making it up. I just turned around, dropped all the things I do to fit in, and then turned back around. Then after watching their reactions, l let myself blend in again. They were quite unsettled, but they went back to normal after lunch. Maybe not the wisest thing I have ever done, but it amused me.

    • Aidan says:

      As a young man you have to choose between the two bad options of suffering under the tyranny of cat ladies in HR or going into the trades and inhaling based particulates alongside conservabro squatemalan roofers.

      The way out in the first circumstance is to work for a small company without much catlady presence, a company that is mostly white men, and in the second circumstance to find something that looks very much like an apprenticeship, where you find an old white man despairing over the fact that incompetent beaners are the only ones around to inherit his knowledge, which will otherwise die with him, and tacitly convince him that you are smart and competent enough to learn from him.

      Both options require the minimum of accreditation, and a lot of charisma and actual competence. I’ve been in both situations, and only had to leave the second because the old white tradesman was a drug addict, and it caught up to him.

    • Mike in Boston says:

      Winston,

      Jim is right that college is turning into an expensive and time wasting scam. Jim’s blanket statements are valuable because they help the reader establish the right worldview.

      But as Jim generally points out (though he did not in this case), there are often exceptions to the general principle, in this case the principle of universities becoming more and more nothing but seminaries for the priesthood of the Woke religion. There may still be college programs that don’t entirely waste your time and help you get where you want to go, which is to be making decent money at a job you don’t hate.

      So if it’s not your money and in the interests of family harmony you consider going the college route, then the task is to find a college that still helps you get a good paying job. The way to do that is to figure out some jobs you think you might like, and talk to the guys who hire for those jobs. Where do they hire from, and what are they looking for? This is just as important as the college application process, if not more so.

      Here’s a freebie to start with. You wrote:

      Before, I had wanted to major in something art, music or design related, and I am still genuinely interested in those fields.

      The College of Design at NC State is serious about getting its graduates good jobs, which they primarily do through an annual job fair. PRGis one company that should be on your radar screen and they recruit there, though they also hire guys with only high school diplomas and promote from within.

      I hope this was helpful. Good luck!

    • Anonymous Fake says:

      [*deleted*]

      • jim says:

        Your advice on academia is heartfelt by you, and does not come from your master’s script, but it is bad advice because it is written around rationales for not blaming the guilty. You presuppose function and good intent where there is dysfunction and evil intent.

        The rot in academia is that having abandoned its Christian goals, it then abandoned its intellectual goals. The rot was painfully visible to me half a century ago. After reading Moldbug I researched the matter, and found the rot setting about 1875, two and a half centuries ago. There rot has proceeded faster and faster, with no specific date at which one can say “things were OK before year X, and rotten after year Y”

        It has been a ponzi scheme for a very long time. It never worked as a career training system, except for training priests. It used to work as place for smarties to hang out.

  70. Adam says:

    Interesting enough, the movie The Last Duel set in the 1300s in France speaks clearly about male property rights regarding women, and adultery being a crime against the husband etc. Quite a lot of red pill and reactionary views throughout. The plot is about two men that a women gets to fight.

    • Fireball says:

      You must be joking. It portraits her as dutiful wife and completely innocent of the entire situation when it literally says that her side of the story is the true one.

      Funny enough her side of the story is literally how women try to present themselves after causing this type of conflicts.

      It also attacks both the church and the image of the king.

      • Adam says:

        Didn’t notice the part about the king and church so much. The way it portrayed the female was accurate as far as my experience. We are in agreement.

        • Adam says:

          I didn’t get the impression the film maker was portraying the woman as innocent or that all women are wonderful. Especially during the third act, she insisted the husband take action “I will not be silenced!” Then she goes on to accuse him of doing it all for pride and vanity…. just after finding out her neck was on the line.

          Seems the film maker knew the nature of females, and the trouble they cause.

          • Fireball says:

            You could be right, it has been awhile i have seen the movie.

            I done a quick look on wikipedia in the critical response part. It does look it is suppose to be a critic of “systemic misogyny”. If it the actual original intended or not i am not sure.

            Either way it is a funny test to see if people can see or at least say what is staring them in the face.

  71. Ghost says:

    The best AJ broadcast I have seen yet. Breaks it all down.

    https://banned.video/watch?id=62c9d88e5d818b6f6e835715

    And before you start writing “shill” at me, know that Anglin endorses him and backs him up constantly. Except the China man bad meme.

    • Ghost says:

      Another point I wanted to make. We are being flooded with Mexicans. Sooner or later you may find yourselves having to deal with them. I’ve been to Mexico several times and lived in New Mexico a few years.

      Mexicans, in small number, we pretend to be friendly. Once they are in large enough numbers in your area they will assert their “machismo” attitude. Which consists mostly of verbal challenge and angry stares. If you stare them down, generally they will back off. Yet to have one throw down.

      Their women can be violent, and are difficult to handle.

      Many of them see the 1915s “Pancho Villa” as some Robin Hood folk hero even though he was nothing more than a terrorist bandit and fake general. So, might want to brush up on Mexican history so you can play along.

      They like to repeatedly ask what you think of them ad nauseam. Like a Mexican version of a bigot test.

      Though they smile in your face, they do not like you and will betray you first chance.

      • Adam says:

        I’ve worked with Latinos of all kinds. I do not trust them for a minute, as a rule. Some of the women are very beautiful though.

        They all seem to have a chip on their shoulder, as if their low status is the white mans fault.

        The few that I would trust are all older men, married fathers with lots of kids. Age 50 or older. The ones with the pioneer mindset, that have everything locked down tight and in order. They appreciate being around another man they can trust.

        • The Cominator says:

          When I lived in MA I hated them, the Florida ones ain’t so bad.

          • Guy says:

            We hate them up here because they took Irish and Italian neighborhoods and destroyed them one after another. Some are okay. And all are better than the local politicians and compassionate Mass citizens giving them out money to let them live here. Rural Mass is still nice, but even the small cities are browning fast.

            • i says:

              Is there hope for Europe to be a reserve just in case? Or is all Europe going to be browned thoroughly too?

      • Wulfgar Thundercock III says:

        Mexicans are quite possibly the least militarily virtuous race on the planet. Machismo is a front for not being actually dangerous, which is why they can do it. All the serious martial races tend to reserved, polite behavior because the alternative is constant, brutal bloodletting. They have the Negro propensity to stupid violence, the discipline of Arabs, and the savagery of the Amerindian and Asian, which combines to form a military tradition that resembles little more than vaguely organized bullying. Only under competent white leadership do they approach any worth, but in such a circumstance the feats they can get up to can be quite amazing. Punative atrocities should be enough to keep them in line if they get out of hand, or impressing their young men and using them as bodies to gain their allegiance if you can put them to use.

        • i says:

          Cruelty is easy. Competence in battle is hard. The weak are often the most cruel. But it doesn’t necessarily prove their manliness.

    • The Cominator says:

      IMHO after 2020 nobody should be all that hostile to Alex Jones… hes mostly been right on the direction if wrong on some of the details.

      • jim says:

        Alex Jones is controlled opposition.

        He dances around the truth, and then delivers a wagon load of lies.

        • Kunning Druegger says:

          We may need a new category for the likes of AJ and JBP. They seem to be something more than controlled opposition. Maybe dangerous useful idiots?

          • Red says:

            For every man who moves on from AJ and JBP onto the reactionary right, there’s many who realize both are full of it and stop searching because they think they’re unlikely to find more reasonable people past those gate keepers. AJ especially made pointing out obvious conspiracies low status with his antics.

            • jim says:

              Ridiculous conspiracy theories are shilled to discredit the leaks from real conspiracies that leak like a sieve, as for example the Climategate files.

              • The Cominator says:

                This was true of Alex Jones before 2020… I see way more people nowadays going well I used to think AJ was nuts but basically he was right

                • Red says:

                  > I see way more people nowadays going well I used to think AJ was nuts but basically he was right

                  Acting nuts was designed to help cover for the conspiracies that where going on. I haven’t seen AJ in years, but he’s probably having trouble playing that roll since we have about 10,000 barely concealed conspiracies all going at once.

                  Though I have to admit this isn’t half bad:

                  https://www.infowars.com/posts/save-the-babies-a-documentary-on-cps-child-trafficking/

                  They zoomed right passed the open conspiracy of stealing kids to sell to faggots but all in all not bad.

  72. Leon says:

    Is there any way to look up individual comments? There was a discussion on testosterone, balding and body types a while back that I would like to look back at.

    • Redbible says:

      No way to search the comments as far as I know, but I think, this link might take you to what you were looking for:
      https://blog.reaction.la/economics/stagflation-is-here/#comment-2840071

      basically, I save all the interesting threads, so that I can sometimes find them again.

      • Kunning Druegger says:

        >interesting threads

        What are the factors that make them interesting? Do you have thousands of threads saved, or are you very exacting? I tried to do this back in ’18 or ’19 and just ended up saving ~80% so I ceased the effort.

  73. Kunning Druegger says:

    Two things, I believe they are on topic:

    Thing 1)
    Cryptic post by a complexity analyst I’ve linked to before. He has a ton of material and has been posting for a while, so you are free to review and judge for yourself if there’s any merit to his analysis. Here’s the post [1] in full:

    “I was working on a more simple virus piece, a more complex and opinion piece when the proverbial excrement hit the fan.

    On today’s afternoon [09 July 2022], someone or some group decided to leak all of Hunter Biden’s iCloud data, this is a new leak. This threw a massive disruption upon my work because this needs attention.

    I won’t share anything on my Substack OR Twitter, because it is heavily illegal, but things are changing incredibly fast.

    This serves as a PSA if I suddenly stop sending posts for 2 or 3 days, but also for you to be aware because this can quite well change everything at a disproportional level. Severe repercussions even at non-public levels.

    Plus this signal many things for allies and adversaries alike.

    There were many other events going on, I might do another short e-mail in a few hours, things are moving too fast, but this one deserved a sole email.”

    This seems weird. While his copy editing and formatting is not the best, he tends to convey a lot of information in the Jimian style, as in: Here is fact. Here is fact. Here is causal chain. Beat wife with stick (lol jk). So… why this post? What is this “signal?”

    Link: https://hiddencomplexity.substack.com/p/breaking-news-icloud-leak-from-politician

    Thing 2) Here is a link [2] to St. Anglin’s piece that ends with this excerpt:

    “The most important thing for any of us is that the US government loses its spot at the top of the world, because once they lose global economic dominance, the US government isn’t going to have the resources to force all of these hoaxes on us. I don’t think the US government is going to completely collapse, but it is going to lose its ability to maintain this current level of tyranny – and it will also at some point become possible for the people to actually influence the government.”

    We seem to be on track for Jim being right about 2026. Who knows what and how it will happen, but systemic collapse is rarely one thing. St. Alf covers this pretty well in his latest draft (if you haven’t read it yet you really should: https://truthinaworldoflies.com/). It is always a chain of events that, in retrospect, seem to be a straight line, a series of obvious events. But seeing as we all lived through it, the straight line from 9/11 to 01/06 is anything but. I mean, that’s not even a connected line to me, but bet your ass some future historian (God grant us a future) will think it’s the most obvious thing.

    Sri Lanka, according to Mathematical and others, is a foretaste of what is around the corner for countries that cannot provide for their own holistic stability. Countries that can provide do not get a free pass, given the stupid, stupid open borders shit, the rot spread wide by the faith of the GAE, and dumb luck.

    When I started prepping years ago, the common refrain when you drop a bit too much money on this gun or that solar charger is “better to have and not need, than need and not have.” OK, any argument against that proverb, I’d love to hear it. As far as I can tell, Jimian Christianity is easily a score, maybe even three score, men. Mostly American, but not exclusively American. We should start building a plan WAIT DON’T HANG UP. I am not at all advocating Wacob8 or a camping trip or an online conference. I mean something more along the lines of “And Jim said unto his disciples: here’s what a smart man should have laying around, here is where a smart man should be living, these are the things smart men do, etc etc etc.” I’m not laying this solely at Jim’s feet, we can all help build a Guidebook For the Descent. It isn’t specifically necessary for us. The 12 disciples didn’t need a Bible, really. They wrote all that stuff down for people who didn’t have the luck or burden of living with Christ.

    Events are beginning to speed up in frequency. I don’t know when, but there’s a good chance in the not too distant future we are going to lose access to the internet. Maybe not permanently, maybe not all of it, but I know it will suck when I lose this forum, and I can’t be alone in that sentiment. So… wat do?

    [1] https://hiddencomplexity.substack.com/p/breaking-news-icloud-leak-from-politician

    [2] https://stormer-daily.rw/full-collapse-of-sri-lanka-government-flees-after-palace-stormed/

    • jim says:

      The internet was originally designed for war and chaos. Which allowed it to grow in a disorderly, chaotic fashion without planning or central organization.

      A lot of very dangerous and fragile highly centralized organization has grown over this basic architecture, and we have come to rely on this dangerously convenient highly centralized organization, which I am working to replace, but the basic structure is still there and still works.

      War and censorship (and in the information epoch the two are synonymous) is breaking the internet into splinternet, but the central authorities, realizing this would render them irrelevant and their functions likely to be replaced, are resisting this.

      • Fireball says:

        The story of the tower of babylon will be the history of the internet. No one will have memetic hegemony over the species ever again.

    • Fireball says:

      If you are going to lose the internet will be over a generation or two, plus it doesn’t cause to much of a problem on a local scale. You still have a mouth you can just go talk to your family and friends.

  74. Alfred says:

    Apologies if this is a naive question, but what should one think of the apparent Hunter iPhone leak being passed around on 4chan?

    Would it even be allowed there if anything truly incriminating was still to be found? Is that idea giving Shaniqua too much credit?

    • jim says:

      Leaks are not “allowed”. They are done by hackers, or by people who have authorized access, and the leak anonymously.

  75. Kunning Drueger says:

    Ok, I think we need to go into some detail into policing because a large number of comments have been made that indicate to me there’s not much depth or experiential knowledge here*. First, and fucking foremost, “well, I saw on TV/in the movies/in a news program…” is inadmissible. The media lens shows you what it wants the exact same as fictional narratives, they just use shittier equipment. There is no consistency in training, hiring, methods, equipment, or leadership across American departments. Sheriff’s Departments are vastly different than police departments. Special Police, Special Conservators of Law, and Private Security are the same as the police in the eyes of the law with the notable exception that the former are constrained by and restricted to a specific, demarcated property, while local, state, and federal law enforcement are always law enforcement, often referred to as “Sworn.” There are also differences in terms of Union representation and client mandate (a private company can order their goons to unsee crimes, but a sworn officer can’t fall back on “my boss ordered me to not do my job”). You then have Series 1800, being all federal police or agents with police powers, including but not limited to FBI, SS, USPS, IRS, DHS, etc. Additionally, you have DOC, MPs, force protection, private security on federal property, executive protection, PMCs, PIs, and foreign military, police, and security operating on US soil.

    OK, so all these different things can look and act like different things, but they can also look and act the same. It is situation dependent. In riot/civil unrest, can be very hard to distinguish if you don’t have an equipment or methodological familiarity. Some cities and regions dedicate a significant amount of budget to SORT/SWAT and Riot stuff, some just expect organizations literally expect patrol officers to put on gear and recall their 3 day intro course they took a few years back so they could pick up auxillary status and get a pay bump. There’s no way to know if this is the case unless you look into it. FCPD, PPB, and LAPD should be completely different based on the relevant factors, yet they are all hilariously similar. Some county outfits have 20 cars total with 6 officers in duty at any given time, while others have multiple cars per officer on the roster. So much depends on budget, leadership, and management. NJ State Police is den of welfare queens and faggots, while OK State is basically a paramilitary in service to the governor. Some departments have LRADs, dedicated grenadiers, and shield wall trained officers, while others have literal waifs collecting the monthly pay bump for SORT who weigh about as much as the biggest drug dog.

    There’s no serious way to generally predict how the police are going to respond to civil unrest. Remember the American Trucker protest? Probably not, because it got completely owned by the IC in the end. But when it was still forming, before the CIs and rats had imploded the organization, there was absolute chaos at the county level. Some PDs and SDs committed to escorting the convoy while the next jurisdiction over swore they would roadblock and detain. It was so dicey that, rumor has it, “some entity” actually had a C130 full of spook gear actually operating over US soil to monitor the convoy.

    It’s foolish to consider US police forces as a monolith. There’s just to much variation between and in departments. Sheriff’s departments have more loyalty due to the hierarchy, but they tend to be smaller, and in densely populated urban they are usually highly specialized. City PDs are massive organizations with multiple bureaucratic entities contained within, but they’re paper tigers based on relatively low danger and regular, high wages. We’re also in the middle of a generational shift that has no precedent. I was doing a contract qualifier at a range, and the range adjacent had CBP/HSI/ICE guys looking all high speed/lo drag in their takedown gear. I asked the RSO how they shot, and he laughed when he told me that it was just a familiarization day so the Agents would know how to pass. The outfit I was with blew through ~800 rounds per shooter *that day* over the course of 4 range days. That doesn’t mean those guys sucked, but it does mean their leadership treats them like children. Fed shooters used to have a godlike aura in LE, and now they are, quite justly in many cases, treated like Poindexter faggots with their pronouns on their badges. Some LEOs are pig ignorant assholes, but they go to church, marry their wives at age 17, and know what they believe. I know most military these days are just bureaucrats in body armor, but if you ever interact with men that have observed the elephant, they all say the same thing: there’s no way to know who’s going to fall apart under fire and who is going to fall in.

    This extends overseas, I have to imagine. Denmark, Finland, and Sweden actually have some top tier operators and top end assets, but they also have female SecDefs. A genuine army with no general is basically useless… unless a general arrives and they fall in. It should come as no surprise to us here that the masses don’t matter; it’s all about elite leadership.

    *I’m speaking from experience and research. I make no claim to expertise or perfect knowledge. If I got something wrong, tell me what it was and how, and I’ll accept it. I have more experience in this area than a lot of people, but it is outsider on inside. I’m not a cop or military, and never have been. If you feel as if I’ve tread on your toes or valor, let’s hammer out the hierarchy at the range.

    • Tom says:

      ‘There’s no serious way to generally predict how the police are going to respond to civil unrest.’

      I beleive this to be the truth. Anecdotally I knew men who were good cops in California in the late 80s and early 90s. At that time any good cop was being replaced by a bad one. Bad morally and bad in terms of ability. I’ve known old police in other places, including other western countries, that say that is happening in their area as well.

      As for other than police groups and above police groups? Morally bad is being recruited and that often but not always corresponds to less ability.

      So we have ability to respond to unrest in question, will to respond to unrest in question, and a real question of if one police agency will work with or against another. Without local personal knowledge it’s a total crapshoot isn’t it?

      I’ve been told by enough retired cops not to count in the cops for anything nor to do anything. And never tell them anything, not even the truth. So what will they do in real unrest? Anything, but probably nothing. That’s my guess anyway.

    • not a reactionary says:

      Somewhat related but I’ve been watching some badge cam youtube channels lately. Donut Operator is good, but most of his videos are reposts of footage from other channels. Code Blue Cam and Police Activity are good. I’ve been watching Active Self Protection as well, which usually gets to the good stuff within the first couple of minutes of the video (not always police footage there).

  76. Willis Oliver says:

    [deleted for all the usual reasons*]

    There’ve been a LOT of predictions here over the past 3 years. They basically never pan out.[*deleted*]

    • jim says:

      Really?

      Give us a little list.

      • Tom says:

        A lot of people simply ignore failed predictions as if they were never made. It’s laudable to address predictions that didn’t come to pass. Years ago I read an economics blog that made annual broad predictions and evaluated the outcomes the next year. The guy was like 70% right, which is impressive enough for me.

        I expect no list of predictions to be forthcoming. But if it was, I’d expect we would find that actually, Jim’s predictions are pretty good.

  77. Kunning Drueger says:

    https://youtu.be/Mmdi78Ypfmg

    KC-46 is just an utter pile of shit. They’re scrapping the KC-10, the prettiest thiccforce airframe (fucking fight me) and keeping the KC-135 in service for 30 more years, so the 1950s frame stays up, and the 1980s frame goes away. Watch the video and see the mistakes made. It’s fascinating and frustrating.

    • Red says:

      I can’t say I’m shocked by the KC-46 with the US air force having to take Bofors guns out museums in order to do basic fire support missions. But I’m still amazing they switched to low rez black and white screens with no range finding or 3ed modeling over the Mark I eyeball.

    • Fireball says:

      You better hope that all the people that still know how to make the parts of those 1950s air frames aren’t all in their 60s.

      • Kunning Drueger says:

        Parts availability is why they’re changing the airframe, but I don’t buy that excuse. If they need parts, they would manufacture them. I think the institutional capacity for the parts is what is missing.

  78. Mister Grumpus says:

    @Jim:
    “In this crisis, we should not now prepare for victory, but rather for preserving technological capability and the capacity to organize in an increasingly hostile environment. We should act to maintain the capability to act when more favorable circumstances arise.”

    Absolutely yes. Maintaining and improving the ability to communicate now, so that we or others can act later. Just that, today, is a transgressive and revolutionary act.

    It appears that Musk got railroaded out of his Twitter bid. He said in an interview once that yes, he did have a Plan B for if the Twitter deal didn’t or couldn’t happen, and now he knows that he has no other choice.

      • not a reactionary says:

        I wonder what’s going on there? I wish Musk would go through with it. Read a couple of mainstream articles saying he wants out because Twitter is infested with bots. And here I was hoping he would buy out Twitter and ban prog disinfo….

        • Guy says:

          I don’t think he made the offer not knowing the numbers they gave were inaccurate for all sorts of things, including bots. Perhaps he was trying to get info? Or sabotage Twitter in general? Maybe probing to see who reacts to his move and in what way.

        • Neurotoxin says:

          I interpreted Musk’s bid for the company as sincere. He wants to stop the outrageous leftist censorship. He’s currently threatening to walk away on the grounds that Twitter won’t disclose its data on the prevalence of bot and spam accounts.

          • Kunning Drueger says:

            I think his desire is sincere but his bid was b8. I swear this isn’t hero worship, but he is acting on a level above us in terms of perspective, info access, and options. This is a function of his endeavors and efforts. We can use Boring Company as a case study. Most normies think BC was started because Musk thought it up sitting in traffic in LA. This may or may not be the case, but that’s where the actual story departs the narrative. Musk’s inquiries into modern tunneling led him to a position where he found an industry that had become sclerotic for 3 decades. Actual labor could charge whatever they wanted because there was a tech cartel, and every single client was a government with a sprawling bureaucratic network. This is fertile ground for wastage and corruption, but it also means disruption is possible. The term I’ve heard tossed around is “slower than a snail,” as in that’s how fast the drill rigs moved. Since BC’s entry into the ecosystem, all the players have been forced to increase R&D, meaning more and better options, new entrants, and innovation. The question becomes, did Musk go forward with BC because he say the opportunity to build another business, or did he build a business to influence the industry in his favor? Not mutually exclusive, and not the only options, but I think BC is different, strategically, than SpaceX. Both are important, both are revenue/investment intense, both carry a lot of risk, both create industries under industries.

            This is the level I’m speaking of. When your “fuck around with” budget is in the multiple billions, your world of options and timescales is significantly different. Look at how much Bloomberg was willing to sink into a DNC primary. Was it 2 billion? And he’s been invisible since, recouping his losses and continuing smaller games.

            So I wonder if Twitter is a SX or a BC type move. Or maybe it’s something altogether different. As someone downthread stated, maybe he’s decided he has the pieces he needs to be a populist, Savior of Sanity monarch. As elites become allowed to acknowledge the systemic rot, their ego, ambition, and position will lead some of them to make great strides. Musk is a firstmover, but so is Bezos and others. Obama gave them the keys to the bureaucratic kingdom, so they all know how utterly doomed it is. It may soon become commonplace for each social media organ to have a billionaire patron, or to be the prize they tussle over, with little man participation being the “points” in the contest.

            • Vlad says:

              Cathedral triumphalism deleted.

              • Vlad says:

                Not cathedral triumphalism I wanted musk and trump to succeed but like everything else I written you’ve deleted I don’t kid myself to me the dark enlightenment meant we faced facts no matter how inconvenient because reality mattered but now you’re building a little bubble of faggot acolytes posing Christian nonsense.
                Trump and musk were not up to task neither were even conservatives not even remotely. Neither is moldberg for that matter techno capitalism isn’t saving us its enslaving us Lands acceleration is about the inevitability of Marxism
                About the only thing nrx was right about was facts matter but now their inconvenient truths
                If I say apes have both socialist and capitalist traits it’s not because I’m a “ third position it’s” fucking asshole it’s because it’s a fact we have to take into account. Just like it’s a fact capitalism is destroying our culture nation people. As did socialism you seem only capable of 70s frames. They’re just fucking tools they can be remade used differently or whatever obviously nrx has no answer moldbergs te hon patchwork is exactly DAVOS so need new plan start with excluding Jews and non whites how about that. Whatever delete this too you’re a has been

                • jim says:

                  Socialism has been tried thousands of times over the past four millenia.

                  Failed every single time in the same way for the same reasons.

                  Short term, it gives an advantage in war, because you can tax beyond the laffer limit. But not for very long.

                  As a political program, it appeals when the masses are hungry, because they listen to the man with soft hands, who tells them that under his leadership they will be able to smash and grab, and the hungry want to smash some windows and grab something to eat. Today, everyone is fat or struggling with his diet. It has no political appeal any more to anyone.

                • alf says:

                  Here’s a question: why are we exclusively getting marxist shills, never woke shills? If wokeness is the live religion of the moment, you’d expect at least some woke shilling… But no instead we only get commies.

                • Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

                  It is, in prosaic terms, because Woke is a more recent product of our later-day kakistocracy; which is to say, a product of the feckless and incompetent.

                  The marxianisms of yesteryear still have leftovers of ideological weaponry for hacking into more sophisticated discourses; whereas, wokism barely even bothers to justify itself reasonably, consisting primarily of sheer declarations of power and intent, the acceptance of which it’s coadjutors simply presume as given, and the only times it goes beyond making imperial declarations is to make in your face deerhorsing, where blatantly inexcusable contradictions in what it demands you to voice your assent for are in fact the whole point.

                  Put bluntly, it is a ‘faith’ that lacks any spiritual armament to even begin to fight on such a plane as this.

                • The Cominator says:

                  “Here’s a question: why are we exclusively getting marxist shills, never woke shills? If wokeness is the live religion of the moment, you’d expect at least some woke shilling… But no instead we only get commies.”

                  Because woke can’t debate anything even using lies since the whole point of woke is that people have to show their demonic allegiances by making utterly and obviously false statements like “men can get pregnant”. A woke shill who showed up here it would just be kind of sad…

                • alf says:

                  In a way that should piss off the marxist shills to no extent — here they are furiously typing away for a cent a comment, only to be outholy’d by Shaniqua who can’t even spell the word capitalism.

                • Globalist Power Terminated II says:

                  In a way that should piss off the marxist shills to no extent — here they are furiously typing away for a cent a comment, only to be outholy’d by Shaniqua who can’t even spell the word capitalism.

                  AYO 😂

                • Kunning Druegger says:

                  Me too , GPT. Damn near pissed myself.

                • Neurotoxin says:

                  “If I say apes have both socialist and capitalist traits it’s not because I’m a “ third position[ist]” fucking asshole it’s because it’s a fact we have to take into account.”

                  Among the human apes there are indeed capitalist desires and socialist desires. But that doesn’t mean that both capitalism and socialism actually work. Instead of acknowledging that socialism always fails, you wrote that capitalism and socialism are “just fucking tools they can be remade used differently…”

                  A workable socialism?! Wow, that’s really interesting; I wonder if anyone has ever actually tried that in practice so we could observe the results. Your thoughts seem really advanced and I would like to subscribe to your private blog! Can I have the password?

                • skippy says:

                  “Here’s a question: why are we exclusively getting marxist shills, never woke shills? If wokeness is the live religion of the moment, you’d expect at least some woke shilling… But no instead we only get commies.”

                  Even they know woke is too fucking dumb for anyone who isn’t bowled over immediately by the need to socially conform.

                  Marxism is what they deployed when they had smart opponents who would speak out.

                  Hitler was not a Marxist. He literally held rallies with giant banners saying “Marxism must die if Germany will live.” Hitler is why cultural Marxists hate to be called cultural “Marxists”. They remember.

                • ten says:

                  What the fuck is a socialist trait or a capitalist trait/desire?

                  Apes certainly have no desire to give everything to the big guy so he can hand it out as he pleases and they certainly have no desire to leave the coconuts on the tree to the ape that planted the tree.

                  If we are talking about altruism vs competition, then altruism is a subset of competition, and actual altruism does not imply socialism and socialism does not imply altruism, other than for sloganeering and hellway pathing.

                  If we are talking about collectivism vs individualism, then socialism gives you a horrendous collective with no individualism, while strong individualism requires hierarchical collectivism spanning up space for the individual.

                  Vlad seems to be operating on double digit iq vague pattern recognition from within whig history.

                • jim says:

                  > What the fuck is a socialist trait or a capitalist trait/desire?

                  The desire to create, to create nice stuff is capitalist. Malice, envy, covetousness is socialist.

                • Neurotoxin says:

                  @ten: “What the fuck is a socialist trait or a capitalist trait/desire?
                  Apes certainly have no desire to give everything to the big guy so he can hand it out as he pleases and they certainly have no desire to leave the coconuts on the tree to the ape that planted the tree.”

                  Read. This is not the same thing as looking at the words. But looking at the words is a necessary first step.

            • Neurotoxin says:

              As long as we’re contemplating 4D chess, here’s a possibility: Musk pulled a Xanatos gambit on Twitter.

              One possibility was straightforward: He buys it, takes control. Or at least significantly alters content moderation policy.

              The other possibility is that he suspected that it’s full of bot accounts and wanted to be in a position where they couldn’t legally deny him the data on that. Being a prospective buyer of the company put him in that position. Worst-case situation, Musk figured, was that they’d do exactly what they did: slow-walk, obfuscate, and just generally bullshit. That weakens their position with advertisers – who know that the obfuscation means tons of bot accounts instead of real eyeballs – and Musk can walk away from the deal, so it doesn’t cost him anything. And Twitter has been forced to take its pants down on the bot stuff, even if they don’t officially admit anything.

              I think all this is a stretch, but it’s possible.

            • jim says:

              Taking over an expensive existing operation is out of character for Musk, whose MO has always been disruptive innovation of stagnant industries. It may be the move was always intended to fail.

              • c4ssidy says:

                Elon has hinted about various innovations regarding twitter which are only possible to push forward as a private company, including opening up the protocol. It had a flavour of the dream internet-replacement which Jim is making even if I have not yet seen Elon directly discuss blockchains. I believe that he wanted to use Twitter the platform to innovate out a stagnate social media industry

            • ten says:

              I saw a couple of commies ruminating that the twitter bid was a diversion maneuver for moving a lot of wealth, which he has indeed done. I’m entertaining the thought that he is leaving the anglosphere.

  79. A2 says:

    Sri Lanka looked like it was in deep trouble some weeks ago with a food crisis, a fuel crisis and a debt default, and now:

    “Violence as protesters take to the streets in Sri Lanka”

    https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-asia-61327820

    “Protesters swim in President’s pool”

    https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-asia-62105698

    “New Sri Lanka PM: There won’t be a hunger crisis” (how do you know, chief?)

    https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-asia-61441000

    • Fireball says:

      It is like i am looking into my future.

    • Pooch says:

      Forgot this one:
      https://www.cnn.com/2022/05/10/asia/sri-lanka-protests-police-shoot-intl-hnk/index.html

      Third World countries have an advantage over the First World when their politicians go woke. The population can just burn their houses down.

    • Pooch says:

      (how do you know, chief?)

      I’m guessing he’s no longer taking IMF money in exchange for destroying his food production and energy consumption.

      • Pooch says:

        Likely a decision made after watching protestors swim in his pool of course.

      • Mister Grumpus says:

        Surely Putin will bail them out with some oil and fertilizer at the last minute, or at least I hope so. Sri Lanka is a heck of a navy base. Russian frigates for Chinese freighters.

        Are there similar such arrangements? Empires that are partnerships with one side providing the merchants and the other providing the warriors? (And is this the most simple minded and naive question ever?)

        • Pooch says:

          Chinese loans into African countries for infrastructure are now starting to exceed IMF money in exchange for less control not more control unlike the West. The global South is setting up to be something of a political football between the East and the West over the next century.

    • Mister Grumpus says:

      That thing where they went full-organic in 2020 or 2021 was pretty crazy. You could tell that they expected the Jewish White Saviors would come down from Harvard and Oxford and reward them for their faithfulness with magical manna. And maybe they did, too, but all the mid-levels and little people are eating shit now. Surely other peoples are watching.

      • A2 says:

        Seems like Sri Lanka wanted to transition to living off foreign aid rather than hard work. Alas, they chose the wrong moment to put out their (sacred) beggar’s bowl. Better luck in the next life.

        I know only one country which basically lives off foreign aid: Uganda. There might be more but they seem to have perfected it.

          • jim says:

            The ban on chemical fertilizer is a big part of it.

            But Sri Lanka suffers from a wide variety of left wing memetic ailments buggering its economy. It is sitting on a lake of oil that is among the last oil in the world that can be extracted by twentieth century oil drilling methods, and attempts to extract it have repeatedly failed and lost a great deal of money due to running afoul of leftism.

            One of the major issues is that people have no fuel to cook with. If the oil drilling projects had been allowed to succeed, the place would be a major oil exporter.

            • Kunning Druegger says:

              Is the process to industrially intensive for pirate extraction? How about pirate refineries? Like, modular, mobile refineries that come together for short runs.

              I almost went on a contract in Dark Continent for pipeline security. the locals will literally punch holes in the pups and carry the contents away in buckets.

              It could be a whole new world of masculine adventurism. And if white men don’t adapt and perfect it, you’re going to see browns punch holes in the reservoirs and just scrape off the spills.

              • Pooch says:

                Doughnut theory of civilizational collapse.

                As the West gets more and more dirty, disgusting, and dysfunctional you’re going to see more and more talented Whites do exactly this.

            • Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

              Getting an ‘organic’ stamp on your box means giving up industrial fertilizers.

              Not doing so means using fertilizers and chemical pesticides.

              There appears to be no imagination of a world where you just don’t use gayfroging endocrine cancers for pesticides.

              Urban gaia-worshipers kibitz on their carbon monomania all day long, but of course care nothing about actual contaminations that actually harm all their neighbors that they hate so much, be it drugs given to feed animals, halogens added to drinking water, preservatives added to packaged food and drink, aluminum in cooking implements, microplastic debridation in everything, and so on.

              The whole farce about straws is a perfect expression of how noone involved there is actually thinking about these things in a principled manner, merely engaging in performative signaling; if you think that ‘plastic’ is a problem, why are you drinking out of a ‘paper’ cup lined with polymers to make it waterproof?

              So on it goes.

    • Pooch says:

      “Protesters storm Sri Lanka’s presidential palace, set prime minister’s home ablaze”

      https://www.axios.com/2022/07/09/sri-lanka-protests-rajapaksa-resign-economic-crisis

      It’ll be interesting to see if whatever new government forms rejects the IMF and attempts to exit the Eurodollar system which essentially means the developing/third world has a check against insane policy that the first world doesn’t …burning down the politicians’ houses.

      If so, leads some credence to the doughnut theory of civilizational collapse.

      • The Cominator says:

        The farmers in Holland should be taking notes…

        Say what you will about the various wogs of the world but they know that the way you remove a government is with violence…

        • Pooch says:

          I don’t think it will work in the West. The police and security forces are too organized, well funded, and willing to use lethal violence in a way that a third world military/police force is not.

          • The Cominator says:

            The cops are brave when they think people won’t fight back…

            We saw in the Uvalde case how brave the cops are when they think that there might be actual danger. There are people in the military who aren’t that way… but they mostly sympathize with us.

            • Red says:

              In Uvalde they were ordered to stand down by someone up the chain of command(probably DHS).

              • The Cominator says:

                And it shows their extreme cowardice that the order wasn’t totally ignored…

                • Kunning Drueger says:

                  Stranger still, it was a Fed with an appropriated weapon that ended the standoff.

                • The Cominator says:

                  Border patrol is a federal agency but the members keyed into the glowcomplex is obviously pretty low given that they’ve kind of publically shit on the Biden administration a whole bunch of times. I also think his wife was in the school.

                • Kunning Drueger says:

                  True. CBP is under DOJ, but is incredibly low status for 1800.

                • Red says:

                  The cops and civies who tried to charge in anyways where disarmed, tased, and restrained. I still don’t know how they organize these mass shootings, but clearly there was someone on site almost immediately trying to prevent the shooter from being stopped.

          • Karl says:

            Why do you think that a third world/military force is less willing to use lethal force than police in the Netherlands?

            I suppose the opposite is the case, because a third world military/police force is (usually) not hated by the government it defends. Western police and military are hated by Western governments (at least in Germany).

            Therefore I expect that when lethal violence is used by protesters persistently, the police will fold quickly.

            • Pooch says:

              Why do you think that a third world/military force is less willing to use lethal force than police in the Netherlands?

              Well the police are nowhere to be found in Sri Lanka as 36 houses of politicians were burnt down including the prime minister. Meanwhile, I watched a cop in the Netherlands fire lethal rounds at a 16 year old farmer driving a tractor on the road. So the video evidence does match up with your thesis.

              First World cops have large pensions and have a lot to lose by disobeying orders not to mention there’s just more of them with more and better equipment. Third world police forces, to the extent they even exist do not have the same incentives.

              • Pooch says:

                So the video evidence does not match up with your thesis.*

              • Karl says:

                I expect that defending these house would have been dangerous as those who are willing to burn down a politician’s house are also willing to harm anyone defending this house.

                The cop in the Netherlands had no reason to expect that he would be harmed by firing at the 16 year old (and think the cop was correct in that).

                I don’t say that there aren’t some cops in the West willing to use lethal force against protesters that are not fighting back. I assume that cops in the West are even less inclined than cops in the third world to use force against protesters that also use lethal force.

                • Pooch says:

                  I assume that cops in the West are even less inclined than cops in the third world to use force against protesters that also use lethal force.

                  Protesters are just an unorganized mob of peasants. I don’t see much difference between the unorganized mob of peasants in the third world or the first world. Perhaps the argument can be made they are more violent in the third world.

                  But if the last 2.5 years have taught me anything it’s that the West has no problem putting down an unorganized mob of peasants when it wants to with extreme violence if necessary. Betting they will back down if one is to match violence with violence is not a bet I would be willing to make.

                • Kunning Drueger says:

                  I’ve… *cough* seen a few protests. All of them had emotional mobs involved, but I’ve encountered blacbloc coordinated actions that were very organized in terms of leadership. They look helter skelter in the media lens, but they’re actually coordinated actions.

                  I keep trying to find a violent protest that wasn’t instigated and coordinated by leadership, but so far, it’s always been a result of some kind of group making plans and taking advantage of circumstances. The ensuing riots and unrest *after* a coordinated direct action is just chaos, but I’d be willing to wager that every single political protest/DA is called for by some elte entity and organized by a “professional” anarchist. [1]

                  [1] https://thebaffler.com/latest/interviews-for-resistance-carrefour

              • The Cominator says:

                Lets assess the Dutch’s farmers movement.

                1. They seem cohesive and not easily intimidated, fully the products of what still is a high trust society – good

                2. I like their PR strategy so far – they hired one of the most beautiful women on earth to be their spokesmodel (Eva Vlaardingerbroek is like a Norse Goddess) – good

                So I think if they actually draw lots and escalate to violence they’ll win I imagine the public in the Netherlands and in much of Europe is with them… or at least they just find Eva Vlaar really really hot.

                But judging from the Truckers I can’t see them winning unless they are willing to go Sri Lanka… if they go Sri Lanka I think they’ll win but they need to be willing to do it.

                • alf says:

                  Many farmers have kept their land in their families for centuries. Interestingly I feel like many of them have a distinct genotype – stubborn, big folk with rough features. ‘pulled out of the clay’ as the expression goes. All of this works in their favor.

                  But they lack a cohesive faith, and they lack a leader. They won’t go to sri lanka, not as things stand now.

                • The Cominator says:

                  Then they will fail…

                • Neurotoxin says:

                  “I can’t see them winning unless they are willing to go Sri Lanka… if they go Sri Lanka I think they’ll win but they need to be willing to do it.”

                  They either will or won’t. If they don’t, it’s another data point that traditional western populations have in their current learning process (IVI, Canadian truckers, now the Dutch farmers) that halfway measures don’t work. Sooner or later some group will learn the lesson and think “In for a penny, in for a pound…”

                  It’s astonishing to see the western global establishment, as someone noted downthread, methodically removing all non-violent options for their removal.Ne

                • Pooch says:

                  The police force of Sri Lanka being a third world country may just flat not be competent enough to put up much resistance to the mob. I saw some video of them shooting water cannons at the mob but that was about it.

                  Armies/police of third world countries tend to be poorly trained and don’t even have enough food, water, and ammunition for any serious deployment. Contrast that with the police forces of any Western country and there is stark difference.

                • The Cominator says:

                  You really think most cops in the West are some superforce of high IQ Navy Seal types?

                • Wulfgar Thundercock III says:

                  Yeah, Pooch, when the violence starts, the police are going to use the same line the Pentagon did. “Bad optics.” Cops fold like a cheap suit when any serious force is brought against them.

                • Sher Singh says:

                  She’s a 5 or 6 at best even in old photos fkn coomers.
                  Western police aren’t supermen, but they have the basics.

                  No wholesale swindling of supplies like diesel and ammo
                  Functional comms, a clear non-politicized hierarchy (for now), and structured resupply.

                  They also have the support of their political class vs right-wingers. Third world cops don’t know if they’re going to get sold out to NGOs the next election cycle.

                  It’s like both bench 315 but one does for a single the other for a set of 7.

                  The floor is higher in the west even if the ceiling is the same.


                  A small elite group will set the tone, and that group needs a faith.

                  The Sikh Farmer Protests gained broad sympathy because Nihang Singhs stormed the Red fort||

                  ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕਾਖਾਲਸਾਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕੀਫਤਿਹ

                • Neurotoxin says:

                  “a clear non-politicized hierarchy”

                  Bitch, PLEASE!

                • The Cominator says:

                  “She’s a 5 or 6 at best even in old photos fkn coomers.”

                  This isn’t all that political but you think Eva Vlaard is a 5 or 6? Do you come from another reality full of heavenly nymphs of unearthly beauty?

                • Neurotoxin says:

                  He’s just messing with you, Comie. I don’t much like blondes but even I was like “Whoa” when I checked out some pics of her.

                • Kunning Druegger says:

                  Yeah Com, ignore Pajeet, that Dutch lassie is absolutely top tier. I bet he’s a disciple of Suones, trying to make his bones by fucking with the Occidental bullies. If his moniker is close to the truth, he’s Sikh, and they don’t really have a concept for “subtle opposition.” For the record, I genuinely like and admire the Lion People. I’ve only had good encounters with them. I wish we could trade all the normie Pajeets for Sikhs.

                • The Cominator says:

                  My favorite are redheads typically but she is a dimepiece.

                • Sher Singh says:

                  If you genuinely respect Singhs – then speak more respectfully. I’d give her 7.5 tops – we have different tastes.

                  By non-pol hierarchy I meant a rank structure that isn’t completely bought & sold – AA isn’t that bad.

                  Only disciple of Guru Gobind Singh.

                  Old commentator here tbh & for women Only WB or WNB matters.

                  ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕਾਖਾਲਸਾਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕੀਫਤਿਹ

                • alf says:

                  WB and fun fact she and Thierry Baudet did in fact B.

  80. Starman says:

    A reminder that any assumption that assumes the Cathedral is hermetically sealed off from other elites, internal and external, is a faulty assumption. Other elites do have a say, and will be more so in the future.

    Here’s an excerpt from a recent speech from Czar Putin of Russia:

    “I want to say and emphasise that we have many supporters, including in the United States and Europe, and even more so on other continents and in other countries. And there will be more, no doubt about that.

    To reiterate, even in the countries that are still satellites of the United States, there is a growing understanding that their ruling elites’ blind obedience to their overlord, as a rule, does not necessarily coincide with their national interests, and most often simply and even radically contradicts them. Eventually, everyone will have to face this growing sentiment in society.

    Today, these ruling elites are raising the degree to which they manipulate the public consciousness right before our eyes. The ruling classes of the Western countries, which are supranational and globalist in nature, realised that their policies are increasingly detached from reality, common sense and the truth, and they have started resorting to openly despotic methods.

    The West, which once declared such principles of democracy as freedom of speech, pluralism and respect for dissenting opinions, has now degenerated into the opposite: totalitarianism. This includes censorship, media bans, and the arbitrary treatment of journalists and public figures.

    These kinds of prohibitions have been extended not only to the information space, but also to politics, culture, education, and art – to all spheres of public life in the Western countries. And, they are imposing this on the world; they are trying to impose this model, a model of totalitarian liberalism, including the notorious cancel culture of widespread bans.

    However, the truth and reality is that the people in most of these countries do not want this life or this future, and really do not want the formal semblance of sovereignty, they want substantive, real sovereignty and are simply tired of kneeling, of humiliating themselves before those who consider themselves exceptional, and of serving their interests even to their own detriment.

    Today we hear that they want to defeat us on the battlefield. Well, what can I say? Let them try.

    • Globalist Power Terminated II says:

      B-BASED!

      • A2 says:

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        • Globalist Power Terminated II says:

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    • Kunning Drueger says:

      Starman, and Putin, are making the same point I made Jim: there are non-aligned Elites. Jim’s response to me makes sense: without a unifying religion, or unity of purpose, and without a uniting leader, there’s no sparing the Republic from collapse.

      Perhaps this is ok. Rollback/reboot to an earlier OS should be easier if the system is fragmented, right? Then it’s just a question of which servers in what order. The danger arises from a semi-functional GAE being able to Conquer what’s already divided. Foreign support would become critical, but I bet ego and clinging patriotism would make it hard some of the Dissident Elite to accept assistance.

      In my estimation, it comes down to geography. The DEs that find themselves with a friendly region and potential allies in proximity will be better off. The GAE, if it has any capable leaders left, will focus on the 3 coasts and attempt to siege the middle.

      • Neurotoxin says:

        Fortunately, its military will be diverted by pointless wars elsewhere around the globe.

        I am whitepilled over the fact that just as the GAE’s power is starting to noticeably wane even to casual observers, it is getting more high-handed and arrogant with the rest of the world. They’re handling the international politics of this terribly. This is what happens when holiness spiraling lunatics seize the machinery of the state. Excellent.

        • Wulfgar Thundercock III says:

          The most important line from the Russian Tsar is this:

          “I want to say and emphasise that we have many supporters, including in the United States and Europe, and even more so on other continents and in other countries. And there will be more, no doubt about that.”

          That says to me that he is aware that he has supporters in the West, and that he might be open to an alliance or support for the elites out of power.

          If I may, I would suggest another parallel to an ancient power: America as Carthage. As a declining empire with a live state religion that has succumbed to military incompetence, the threat to America is not defeat but destruction. If I were a Christian king emerging from the shadow of such a polity, I would enact the Roman approach to Carthage, or the Israelite approach to Jericho. I would not permit them the chance to get their shit together, however unlikely. Purging the wicked is safer for the righteous.

          • Red says:

            I fear this as well. With the way our elites are going, the rational choice is to cleanse America with Nuclear fire to ensure this evil never walks the earth again.

          • Kunning Drueger says:

            Aidan covered this idea (American Carthage) in detail. An excellent piece.

          • The Cominator says:

            Which is why I said it’ll go very bad for us if our insane elite provoke a major war, as it will likely end with our annihilation…

          • Neurotoxin says:

            Yes, Carthago delenda est is the only way out.

            Cominator:
            “…it’ll go very bad for us if our insane elite provoke a major war, as it will likely end with our annihilation…”

            I’m not hoping that the US will be nuked. That said, look at a county-level electoral map from 2016 (the last semi-honest election): the vast majority of our enemies are concentrated in the cities which would be the principal targets in such a strike. If a nuclear exchange were to occur, comfortably more than half of the left’s base would be dead in the first hour.

            • Kunning Drueger says:

              There’s a single target for anyone trying to destabilize the Cathedral, and it isn’t a city. A cursory review of the IC in terms of office space will give you the answer. The next critical target, the destruction of which would neuter the silicon edifice, is also not a city. I don’t think the Cold War modelling and paradigm is relevant anymore, and if Russia and China are actually better lead and informed than the Cathedral, nothing I’ve written here is news to them.

              What I wonder if if the defense establishment has thought it through as well. You’d think they would, as the IC goes to expensive lengths to harden their fortresses, but it could also be massive hubris that the entirety of Homeland Security has taken a laser-like focus to insider threats and has completely ignored a surgical first strike. There’s precedent for this after all. 9/11 was the result of institutional myopia.

              • Neurotoxin says:

                “There’s a single target for anyone trying to destabilize the Cathedral, and it isn’t a city. A cursory review of the IC in terms of office space will give you the answer.”

                Can you re-word this? You were too oblique for me. (IC?)

                • Kunning Drueger says:

                  Intelligence Community. Past that, I can go no further. Wikipedia that term, and it will become geographically obvious.

                • Neurotoxin says:

                  I think I understand, thanks.

      • Karl says:

        Sure there non aligned-Elites, but who would want to spare the Republik from collapse?

        Some want to replace it with monarchy. Elites in power want to collapse the Republic and replace it with a one party dictatorship.

        • Pooch says:

          I think we’ll see some sort of Triumvirate of elites as a necessary precursor to monarchy. An uneasy alliance (Musk, Thiel, etc) all who dislike each other on a personal level and who won’t hesitate to back stab if given the chance.

        • Kunning Drueger says:

          I’m guessing you’re an urban hamster or a suburban bunny, so you just take it as a given that everyone who’s anyone hates America, whether it’s because it’s a leftist prerequisite or a rightist necessity. In Amerika, this is not the case. Foolish though it may be, the overwhelming consensus is that Amerika is fundamentally good, in need of saving, and is currently being ruined by assholes in cities. They are uninterested in the finer points of our theories. They just want everyone to go back to loving America and chasing their dreams.

          This is why I asked you what you thought the base was. You don’t seem to have much contact with Amerika, so if course the Base is just a bunch of well off, hidebound upper middle class normies. The actual base, that being the people who voted in primaries and local/state elections, are not at all confused as to what happened in 2020. They are also aware that something is rotten in the State of Elections. But all they have to look to is the MediaCon flavor of the year and chance encounters with dissident thought. When the latter happens, they see some bookish, pasty intellectual, blathering on about whether-tos and why-fors, and they have interest in that not at all. So they trundle on, aware that something is awry and incapable of doing anything about it.

          Observe me as I dig up the equine, shillelagh in hand: we need to move out of theory into practice. We need to present Amerika with a real option, an alternative to letting the Left continue or aiding the Right in softening the crash.

          • Karl says:

            Sure, America needs saving, but the Republic is not the same as America.

            I understand “Republic” to mean the constitutional order present in the USA before Trump’s reelection was stolen. I understand “America” to mean the territory of the USA and the peoples living there.

            Is my understanding wrong? You started talking about the Republic and now you talk about America. Do you think that saving the Republic might be an option for saving America?

            I’m a German. Don’t have contact with America.

            • Kunning Drueger says:

              Your technical handle of the situation is correct, but it is not aligned with the Anerikaner Belief. In that structure, the country, republic, and people are like a trinity. I know it doesn’t make sense, but that is the way they see it.

              At this point, to save the Republic, there would have to be a decisive civil war, or a right-wing coup that purged all leftists from every institution. Even then, it probably wouldn’t work. But this is what the Anerikaner dreams of: George Washington blasts through a Rick&Morty portal on a sweet Harley Davidson, replaces Joe Biden, shames The Libs into being better Americans, then serves 2 terms and rides off into the sunset. If you think I’m full of it, make a cartoon animation of what I just described and watch how internetizens of conservatives tilt respond. They stubbornly, and foolishly, believe America is alive and well, held captive by the Libs. This is why they always fall for the snake oil provided by the Grift Wing.

              The sole job of the RNC is to keep the Dream alive. If Amerika stops believing in the Dream, the situation will go kinetic very, very quickly. This is the spirit of Jim’s piece: the Left Elite, against all logic and reason, are refusing to let moderating influences slow the spiral and keep the Dream/Lie alive.

              After I posted, I realized you were (yet another) European making confident statements about what America is and what Americans are/are doing. I guess I can’t really fault you. We’re the center of your world, so you naturally think you have a real familiarity with America. It seems trite to state it at this point, but America as a geographic entity is beyond the scope/grasp of most European’s capacity to understand. You guys are ¼ of a continent with a continent’s worth of countries in it; we’re ½ a hemisphere with 3 countries in it.

              • Karl says:

                Well, I started with a question about who would want to save the Republic.

                You answered that question. So the Amerikaners are hoping for a Sulla and while they do they want to save the Republic. Then it is to be expected that there some non-aligned Elites who also want to save the Republic.

                My statement after my question was intended to explain my question. I guess I was making a confident statement in that some (not all!) want to replace the Republic with monarchy – essentially that was quoting Jim’s position and I assumed he is an American as well as some commenters who agree with him on that point.

                My next confident statement was that the Elites in power do not want to collapse the Republik. If that were not true, why would the Republik need saving?

                • Kunning Drueger says:

                  I don’t think a single faction dominates at the moment. There’s a faction that just wants everything to stay like it is now, there’s a faction that wants to pretend Hillary won and proceed from there as if Hillary wasn’t a daemon worshipper, there’s the daemon worshipper faction itself which is probably very factionalized internally… That daemon faction is to blame for the blind acceleration, I think. They lose control and poise when they feel victory getting closer.

                  My point is that I don’t think it’s safe to assume that the Elites don’t want the Republic to collapse. It seems like some of them very much do, while they are aligned with ones that don’t. Without a single foe like Trump, or a single incident like RvW, to oppose together, their alliance crumbles.

                • Sher Singh says:

                  Kunning drueger is wrong in the sense that it doesn’t what the people or rubes want if it’s not achievable.

                  Yes the average white wants to go to work unmasked, watch black guys score touchdowns, and be told how good he is for not being racist.

                  That world ended in 2008 if not with 9/11 or Clinton. Everything else is cope,

                  The trinity of the constitution, Republic people can’t survive because it’s too diverse. Not without serious modifications which require hard power. They’d have to tone down the gay, broaden white to include spics & asians while suppressing the niggers.

                  Democrat elites would rather burn the country down than share power with yellow or brown ie the maid & mistress. These are mostly older whites in charge so their instincts are intact.

                  That’s why we’re headed to serious unrest until the FedGov de facto stops trying to force prog on large groups or regions – UK Muslims are a good example.

                  ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕਾਖਾਲਸਾਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕੀਫਤਿਹ

    • X says:

      How do you comment with a blockquote like that?

      • Kunning Druegger says:

        If you aren’t “X” I recommend you pick a different moniker lol. That one is tainted.

      • jim says:

        > How do you comment with a blockquote like that?

        <blockquote>&gt; How do you comment with a blockquote like that?<blockquote>

  81. Globalist Power Terminated II says:

    > https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1545518986733015044

    JUST IN – Elon Musk terminates $44 billion Twitter deal.

  82. Red says:

    The attempt to starve the planet is truly alarming. Normalcy doesn’t include intentional starvation.

  83. Tom says:

    I dub this group the techno-imperialist faction. Neo-reactionary is a pell-mel of fake and gay terms. Neo almost always denotes ‘fake modern immitation’, this group is not that. Reaction denotes passivity, merely responding while the opponent imposes its will.

    Passivity is weak, and I don’t see that passivity here.

    Techno because the philosophy is based on technological society, everything from evolutionary biology to the way of ordering society talked about here, it has roots in ancient philosophy but its shaped by insights granted by a technological society. This ain’t uncle Ted’s cabin.

    Imperialism because at the end of the day the emperor is the military commander, not mere heir or elected beurocrat. It’s not just monarchy we have to support just now, not just the rule of one however that one rules. No, we need the warrior, the traditional aristocrat, the commander of men and the men behind him who have the will to shape the world by force.

    • jim says:

      You have a good point, but imperialism? Obviously we want and intend an emperor, an imperator, but we also intend the peace of Westphalia, a world, and in due course a solar system, of several powers. And if we do wind up with one emperor over all, he needs to cut his vassal Kings a great deal of slack, as in the Holy Roman Empire, of which it was truly said that it was not an empire.

      Best solution is probably something like the Holy Roman Empire, aka the Holy not-actually-American not-actually-an-Empire.

      • Kunning Drueger says:

        The Terran Confederation v. the Imperium of Man. I guess my issue with the former is how is it not a republican system? Multipolarity can only work when the nexii are distinct and distinctly capable of going it alone. If you have tiers of powers, then the Fox Type[1] leaders will always scheme to create instability and gain advantage. Additionally, Lions[1] will inevitably use lesser powers to balance out or prevent any hegemonic aspiration in their rivals. I know this is not a pressing issue, but I don’t see that we’ve solved the balance of powers issue that culminated in WW01.

          • Tom says:

            Foxes and lions hey? In hubris they tell the truth.

            The aeseop of the lion is strength, loyalty, right rule. Thr fox deception, betrayl, tricks and treachery.

            They fancy themselves smart and clever. The whole basis for this is that to them, the smart thing to to is to betray for personal gain, and since the lions don’t do that they must be stupid and dull .

            Rarely if ever does it occur to them that the lions are not merely stronger, but wiser as well. To them it is impossible because it’s unfair that some are simply better in every way.

        • Kunning Drueger says:

          Sheesh, my link game is struggling

          [1] https://youtu.be/WPzsHitEOb0

      • Wulfgar Thundercock III says:

        The Holy Solar Empire is the goal, with the Nobles of Sol being the electors for the imperial throne, maintaining their personal House militaries while the Emperor maintains the Imperial Navy and the Inquisition.

      • Tom says:

        I would opine that the the idea of expansionism nd broadly centralized rule muddied the core idea of an empire. Thr duty of the Holy Roman Emperor was to defend the rights of the small states by providing a centralized military command wasn’t it? Everything else an Emperor does is beyond the scope of being Emperor.

        Perhaps my idea of the core meaning of the term is incorrect and I don’t mean to humpty dumpy the term. But if there is a better term (that isn’t some niche jargon) I don’t know it. Of course regulating trade disputes also falls under the umbrella of military command, jurisprudence and arbitration is nothing more than a substitute for war. It’s lesser powers asking a greater who they would ally with if it came to bloodshed, and once the greater power chooses the lesser powers save themselves their own blood.

        If we don’t have a term for that think we’re obliged to make it. I’ve been a monarchist of sorts for a long time but never accepted the term reactionary.

        Holy Solar Empire sounds pretty nice, once we have it. I think something less loftly is due for the current situation though.

    • The Cominator says:

      “Passivity is weak, and I don’t see that passivity here.”

      Agree with most of your post but we’re RELUCTANTLY passive right now since individual action against globohomo is likely to be futile…

      • Redbible says:

        I think that the wisdom of the character “King Bumi” from ATLA, about neutral jing best describes what we are doing right now. Neutral jing is about actively doing nothing, and waiting for the right moment to strike. There is a difference between passively not doing things, and ACTIVELY not doing things.

        • Tom says:

          I think we are thinking in different terms Commentator. The issue with the term is it says they act and we react, it implies they have a vision they wish to impose and we exist only as a negation of their vision.

          But we have a vision of the world we want to impose . No matter if progressives existed or not we would have that same vision, it’s not merely a reaction to their vision.

          Reactionary is another lie progressives tell. In fact progressive philosophy is reactionary, it is just ‘not any existing human order that works’. It lacks any vision beyond anarchism.

          Our philosophy is self existent, they are the ones who exist only in the context of us.

          To your point though. First I would second Redbibles comments about the power of inaction. If no action benefits you take no action. But I don’t think we are really so passive as is put forth anyway. I know that I personally am only moderate irritated by progressives in power. The vaccine-to-control-world-population has been the biggest nuscience but none of me nor my women nor children got it and we had only a few problems not getting it. And my country is among the worst for forcing it.

          I think our people are actively doing things. But the revolution will not be televised. You have to know people personally to know about any of it.

          • The Cominator says:

            “But we have a vision of the world we want to impose . No matter if progressives existed or not we would have that same vision, it’s not merely a reaction to their vision.”

            I’m not sure our vision works as the long term vision until you see all sorts of enlightenment idea based governments fail and fail hard. Likely in the 19th century many of us would have been 19th century “liberals” (which were way more like libertarians but of the Mises Caucus types).

            We have our vision of Pournelle style monarchy (the most Jimian state in science fiction is probably Pournelle’s Empire of Man its not covered in too much detail) because all attempts of enlightenment style governments have failed. I would have rejected communism on its face without it needing to fail, I would have rejected universal suffrage democracy too… but I don’t think I would have automatically rejected more limited democracy/republics without seeing them fail so bad…

            • Tom says:

              Of course, the existing dominant paradigm must go for our paradigm to be dominant. And seeing current paradigms fail helps everyone who wants to set up a new paradigm.

              I can say I in another era would have rejected humanist egalitarian thought on the hard-headed basis that equality is obviously untrue. The same very practical reasons Fitzhugh correctly predicted that Yankee society would self destruct in the very way it is self destructing.

              I can’t claim I would have rejected communism since I never have. My Germanic ancestors had communal societies that did very well for themselves,. Their communities still exist and I do close business with them and they are my kin both physically and spiritually. They’re people I’d fight for if clownworld government came for them.

              Of course an egalitarian state will fail, because egalitarianism is not true. And atheist states fail for the same reason. So Marxism would have been obviously bad to me without the benefit of hindsight. Ditto to universal suffrage for similar reasons.

              Some limited republics have lasted long enough to be considered standing the test of time. They’re almost all small states though.

              Would a small state within our style empire be allowed to be a republic under certain circumstances? I’m inclined to think I would be okay with it, if it had a reason for being that. What do others here think? I would hope we would allow for small state theocracies, bishiphorics and ilk. Hereditary monarchy is a good default though.

              Is there room for an ‘Amish Republic under God and Emperor’ with an internally communal economy and elective theocracy? Under the rule of the empire at large of course.

              • The Cominator says:

                Communism was always repulsive on its face to me both plain reason and my the sheer horror of the idea that I would be forever the prisoner of some totalitarian middle schoolish collective anthill forever made me immediately against it… I was in the Pinochet did nothing wrong and McCarthy was right but he failed from about 12 (and I would openly say so in history classes and such).

                Social Democracy always sounded like a bad idea as well (though not nearly as repulsive as communism though in time I came to realize that it led to communism) it always sounded to me that giving equal weight to idiots was not optimal at a small scale and disastorous at a large one..

                Feminism always seemed a terrible idea as well…

                But otoh abandoning some kind of Republic is a harder sell because I never liked authority much and still don’t and most people who want it are bad people (as JRR Tolkien pointed out). It just seems that a tragedy of the fallen world is insecure authority breeds more intrusive authority…

                • Tom says:

                  Isn’t that aversion just residuale liberal programming though? Just like why abandoning republicanism is hard? Like I don’t give a toss about republicanism, but I can see historical examples of small republics working.

                  Solz said the reason the USSR was bad was because it was run by people who hated the average Russian. By atheists, Jews, and defective egalitarian twats. The same kind of people were getting power in the US, and McCarthy was correct in trying to flush then out.

                  But the big thing covering for the egalitarian types was Rand, who made a big push to blame the USSRs economic system entirely and get people to forget that that kind of evil is just egalitarians doing the spiteful and destructive things egalitarians do.

                  So, ‘Communism’ specifically became thr bogey. Ignore the humanists that manages to create terrible governments over and over since the French Reign of Terror, nevermind that every system they set up was terrible. It’s just the economic system.

                  But does the idea of living in an agrarian anabaptist community give you that same terror? A more modern/technological Christian commune? They exist are are really nice from what I saw, they don’t publicize themselves at all though, you have to know people.

                  As a rule such groups are smallish, like sub 3000 people before they split and set up a new colony. IMO On a larger level than that you need price signals etc. But small communes look like they do okay. I’m not going to sign up myself, but I get the idea of running like a mega-family.

                • The Cominator says:

                  “Isn’t that aversion just residuale liberal programming though”

                  Going to public schools made me hate authority very early in my life nothing to do with liberalism per se… being subordinate to petty morons sucks.

                  “But does the idea of living in an agrarian anabaptist community give you that same terror? A more modern/technological Christian commune?”

                  I wouldn’t ban totally voluntary communes but living in one would not be for me.

                • Tom says:

                  Mr Commentator, yes I did a little public school and it was terrible want it? I’m for it being abolished entirely.

                  I wouldn’t live Amish or Hudderite lives either. Nor even the more technological Christian communes lifestyle. It’s not for me. But I can see that in it’s scope it does work. So I won’t say it’s communal economics per se that are evil, so I determine it’s egalitarianism that made Marx evil, not communism.

                  That said I personally doubt communal societies scale past the small town sized threshold. It would take a lot to convince me that a communal society was ever a good idea on, say, the level of a small American state.

                  As soon as you’re big enough to have serious rival factions sharing breaks down. That’s not a bad thing, competition is good. But I think it a fact that nothing like China or Russia would ever have a ‘good’ communism.

                • Kunning Drueger says:

                  “But the big thing covering for the egalitarian types was Rand, who made a big push to blame the USSRs economic system entirely and get people to forget that that kind of evil is just egalitarians doing the spiteful and destructive things egalitarians do.”

                  This is a suspicious section in a suspicious comment, no? Or am I being too paranoid? It sounds like “hail, fellow based bros, let’s not forget that with the proper leadership, communism was actually pretty based.”

                  Apologies if I’m out of line, or if the issue isn’t enemy payload.

                • jim says:

                  Smells like it. But he correctly observes that socialism does not scale..

                • Tom says:

                  Kunning,

                  Being on guard is important isn’t it?

                  I do think Rand threw out a red herring that fixated a couple generations of conservatives on economics when they ought to have more concerned with egalitarianism as a whole, right down to feminism.

                  As for communal society, I’ll stand by what I said before. It doesn’t scale, but with shared blood, faith, and community it does work out well enough and we have real world examples.

                  My ideology does line up a bit with distributivism or so cred, and in my parts douglisism was the right wing up until Randism hit the scene, so my history and economic ideology at no point comes from marx/lenninism.

                  I think so cred can scale, but so cred is a type of market economics. I would opine its like MMT but not as careless about printing cash and printed cash goes to those that produce rather than padding out the beurocratic class.

                • The Cominator says:

                  He doesn’t sound a shill but we have a generally favorable view of Rand here… she had of course the nagging lack of subtlety typical of a jew broad but mostly she was correct.

                • Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

                  The ‘impersonality’ of the economic angle is also what made it a more or less ‘safe channel’ for the polygon to canalize expressions of discontent through; as this did not so much deal in direct attacks on the social status of its privileged demographics in general, or their arrangement for superior privileges over their enemies in particular.

                • Tom says:

                  Yes, it’s not so much that Rands broad themes are wrong. I’d admit they generally arnt wrong.

                  It’s that she got folks going against an economic idea and not the people who did the evil. Impersonaliation as P-C said.

                  Plus she put a wedge on the right between douglasism and libertarian economic policies, that caused a major break in Canada and handed conservativism over to ‘Progressive Conservativeism’. Plus the now rampant idea that if we just had free enough markets niggers would act white.

                  I don’t doubt the welfare state hurt niggers. But it isn’t the whole problem.

                  Even so most my problems with Rand don’t apply to present company, so I suppose I was wrong to bring her up.

                • jim says:

                  Rand’s memes were great, but had some glaring omissions: Family, solidarity, tribalism, and race.

                  Her prediction of the future of Detroit was dead on accurate and amazingly prescient, in so far as a depiction about Detroit where there are no races can be accurate.

                • Neurotoxin says:

                  On the prominence of the economics stuff in twentieth century political debates: This had nothing to do with Ayn Rand. It had to do with Marx, the most influential leftist of the 1800s and 1900s. His entire schtick was “we’re going to knock down the capitalist economic system and replace it with a communist economic system.”

                  That was the whole point back then: The left WAS the socialist movement. The stuff that’s central now – bitching about “racism,” “sexism,” etc. – was just one strategy socialists used to weaken western societies’ self-respect. It’s fascinating over the last couple of decades to watch that minnow swallow the socialist whale.

                • Tom says:

                  Neurotoxin,

                  Not so, the left was bitching about racism and sexism from at least the 1920s, if not well before. In that era more communal economic policies were the bastion of the right. Douglasism, social credit, and distrivutivism for anglosphere Catholics and Protestants and fascism and national socialism for the rest.

                  Environmentalism was a bastion for the right as well.

                  This all took an abrupt turn in the late 60s early 70s. It may not be Rand alone who did it but the capitalism = right wing meme definitely doesn’t have deeper roots than that.

                  Remember capitalism comes from Smith, who aoriginally proposed the labour theory of value. Modern ideas of capitalism only work so far as they co opted Just Price theory, which developed the market theory of value (Aquinas and the Salmanca school expressly state market value as the just price). In fact capitalism arose to replace those very ideas. Capitalism was originally a far left meme that ran on the same ideas Marxism does. It’s a bitter joke that capitalism gets credit for the very ideals (market theory of value) it set out to destroy.

                • Tom says:

                  You see Jim that’s exactly what strikes me as disingenuous with Rand. The best qualities of the Jews are their racial-religous solidarity. I can’t imagine she would be ignorant of the importance of those things. But I never read her deeply, was she really a very very unjewish Jew?

                  She could predict Detroit, but could her ideas predict the Amish that exist all around?

                  Perhaps I do have her wrong, but something happened in the 60s I which old style capitalism, labour theory of value and disinterested monopolistic, that old style capitalism got replaced in the public mind with somethig that resembles traditional Chrisitan economic teaching but calls itself capitalism.

                  I’ll put forth this and take what critiques you all have: Christian economic teaching gives us everything good attributed to capitalism.

                  Just price is market economics with a very firm prohibition on price fixing either by the state or by anti-competitive guild agreement.

                  Subsistiarity give soft limits on monopolization while focusing on local productivity and local, interested authority.

                  And private property is firmly enshrined in Christian moral teaching.

                  I realize the third is nothing like unique to Christianity.

                  Capitalism 1.0 wanted to abolish the first two principles. Marxism wanted to abolish all three. What people call capitalism today has rediscovered those principles, mostly embraced them, and is thus not authentically related to capitalism 1.0 in any way. Capitalism 1.0 explicitly rejected the market theory of value, and played around with other theorys for something like 150 years before rediscovering market value.

                  Douglasism etc was an attempt to adapt Christian economic teaching to an industrial economy using fiat currency. MMT is a corruption of douglasism. How that happened I can’t say but where doglasism says ‘ if our productivity goes up 5% we can print 5% more currency and give it to producers without harming the value of our currency’ MMT says if our GDP goes up 5% we can print 20% more currency and give it to politicos for fun no consequences’. It’s like it read the so cred basics but never understood the theory as a whole.

                • jim says:

                  Your history is bunkum.

                  Feudal capitalism had price fixing and anti competitive agreements, frequently enforced at swordpoint, all over the place. This was not entirely a bad thing, because the people benefiting from the price fixing and anti competitive agreements were the people responsible for public works, social order, and good conduct, so it was effectively a tariff or value added tax funding state functions, state power as private property.

                  Anti monopoly laws invariably have harmful affects that are the reverse of those promised.

                  What happens in practice is that one player becomes dominant by advancing the technology, radically lowering the price, and improving the product, as for example Standard Oil, and, because of all the value that they created and continue to create, they get lots of gravy. Envious people run to politicians for a share of the gravy. And because the gravy winds up being doled out by politicians, regulators, political activists, and people on the revolving door between regulators and regulated, the gravy is taken from those who create value, and given to those who destroy value.

                  Anti monopoly laws never target those on the revolving door between regulators and regulated, which which is where the biggest and most damaging anti competive behavior is. They always target those who earned disproportionate market share and market power the honest way. Which always has the effect of damaging the consumer it purports to benefit.

                  The practical effect of the measures against Standard Oil was to transfer wealth and power from people with background and expertise in distilling gasoline, people with expertise in creating value, to people with a background in law and regulation, people with expertise in destroying value and manufacturing obstacles.

                • The Cominator says:

                  Progressive economic ideas were implemented by Wilson and FDR (to some extent Hoover which is why the depression lasted as long as it did) not seeing how they were on the right.

                  Social credit is something I don’t entirely understand but regulatory manageralism as well as communism always came from the left. Distributivism is one of those forms of right wing socialisms which don’t work out too much better than the leftist ones it was never a popular idea with Protestant right wingers.

                • Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

                  Capitalism is not a peer to communism; it is, at the limit, a stage on which communism is just another player, as old as civilization itself; and in certain respects perhaps, even older still.

                • jim says:

                  Older than civilization. The first wave of civilization was founded by milk drinking aryan nomadic cattle herders who came out of the interior of what is now west asia and north west asia. They measured their wealth in cattle, and they counted their herds by counting heads, thus “capital” originally meant “head of cattle”

                • Neurotoxin says:

                  @Tom: “the left was bitching about racism and sexism from at least the 1920s, if not well before.”

                  I know. E.g. David Horowitz, a red-diaper baby, exposed how his parents’ generation of commies used “racist!” etc. as propaganda weapons in the 1930s. But that was all it was: a way to attack western societies. They didn’t mean it sincerely any more than they mean any of the rest of their propaganda sincerely.

                  Also remember that a lot of the eugenics stuff in the early 20th century – even apart from Germany’s National Socialists – was explicitly racially motivated. The left has never really been concerned about “racism” any more than they’ve been concerned about internal consistency.

                  You’ve gotta distinguish the steak from the sauce.

                • Neurotoxin says:

                  Also: Getting into the minutiae of the labor theory of value, etc. is missing my point, which is: from circa 1850 to circa 1990 the left was defined by “Socialism!” That’s what the beast WAS back then – or rather that’s what its central rhetoric was – thus the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics, the various Communist parties that took over tons of countries in the 20th century, etc.

                  Of course the left also yelped about the environment, “sexism,” etc., etc., but that was agitprop. You will recall that no 20th century country ever got taken over by the Feminist Party or the Anti-Racist Party, etc.

                  “Socialismo o muerto!” was the beast’s central rhetoric back then, and Rand and the rest of the “right” were responding to that; they didn’t create it.

                  All of this is really about what our host calls “the magician’s off hand.” Paying too much attention to the left’s current rhetoric is a mistake. Leftism is hard to define precisely – the knowledgeable people on this blog haven’t come up with a single satisfactory definition, though we had a long discussion about it a few months ago. It is an ever-morphing monster.

                • jim says:

                  A leftist faction is a priesthood engaged in priestly defection. The holiness spiral is driven by the fact that as soon as they succeed, they apply the same tactic on each other, with factions forming within that faction.

                  It is not an ideology, but a tactic, a strategy, and the words that cover what they are doing are just magicians patter, and should not to be engaged, but unmasked.

                  The deep error of the libertarians was to respond to socialism as an economic theory and moral principle, rather than a smash and grab operation.

                • Neurotoxin says:

                  “The deep error of the libertarians was to respond to socialism as an economic theory and moral principle, rather than a smash and grab operation.”

                  Can confirm this, as a former libertarian. I regret the years I spent when I was younger engaging with leftists as if they were since but misguided people. As if.

                • Neurotoxin says:

                  * sincere but misguided.

                • Tom says:

                  US Federal level anti-trust laws are not subsitiarity now are they? They are the transfer of power from one disinterested distant power to another, your example of standard oil being a case-in-point. Local power puts a soft limit on monopolization in that each local jurisdiction has to decide for itself if the monoply is good for it, so the monopoly has to come to the bargaining table over and over again and the problem with monopolization is mitigated.

                  I seem to recall someone making the case that arbitrary set market share limits are against just price, but if no one else has I could.

                  But the meat of thr discussion is that term capitalism itself, and its history.

                  I put forth as an axion that everything is worth what the purchaser will pay for it. Publilius Syrus, but a much older concept. This is the market theory of value, this is the ancient concept of economics that Christian Just Price is built upon. This is the law you recognize as true.

                  And this is the set of economic ideas capitalism 1.0 set out to abolish.

                  So, we have to deal with the term itself a bit. Smith, Toqueville, to some extent Locke. These are the big voices of Capitalism 1.0.

                  But let’s back up a second. You made a claim that capitalism was just market economics, all thr way back to the PIE word for moo-cows. I get that from Mises/Rothbard types whenever they’re pressed. It’s a Mmotte and bailey thing. Normally they’ll make claims like capitalism saved us from the poverty of feudalism, or it produced more wealth than any other system and it saved us from the evils of mercantilism.

                  Which is to say it’s bloody nonsense claim capitalism is literally any market economy ever (feudal capitalism, merchantile capitalism) and simultaneously to claim that capitalism is a special system we recently discovered and defeated all those older systems to make us rich.

                  If you pick the former capitalism is nearly meaningless, and standing up for capitalism is moot. So you tell me what ideas you’re actually defending if that’s all you’re defending.

                  When I’m attacking capitalism I’m attacking the historical ideas the capitalists put forth:

                  The rejection of the market theory of value. Smith coined the labour theory of value, and capitalists for the next hundred and fifty years kept trying to coin ‘objective’ theories of value that were total nonsense. IIRC it was the early 1900s, well after Marx, that capitalists finally conceded the truth of the market theory of value.

                  The idea that total abstract value of trade, not real goods, measures the wealth of nations. And that trade deficits and currency debasement forever while exausting stores of real assets is not only okay but the ideal way to operate.

                  Thr idea that the division of labour itself creates poverty and dehumanizing conditions rather than discrpencies in skill and abilitys (yes this is capitalist theory).

                  All of the above are core ideas in the liberal ideal of capitalism. That’s the history, it’s not bunkam. None of those things are compatible with ordinary market economics as practiced since time immemorial. All of them lead directly into communism. And the entire communism vs capitalism argument is liberal infighting because capitalism failed to, what’s the term in these parts? Immanentize the eschalon? Chesterton and Belloc observed all of this and correctly stated that capitalist cosmopolitans eagerly fund communist cosmopolitans so long as their share end of centralizing power is met. They don’t care if they rule as the state or the corporation so long as they rule.

                  Those two alone made such a bevy of accurate prognostications that Rands prediction about Detroit seems banal.

                  Fitzhugh was right about capitalism, and made both wilder and more true predictions than Rand when he talked about what capitalism would mean for society. He correctly predicted that capitalist society would effectively abolish marriage. He correctly predicted that capitalist society would become increasingly unpolicable. In his time such predictions sounded outright mad. But here we are.

                  The actual right wing folks took on capitalism as it is, not as it pretends to be. And it’s a radical liberal economic philosophy directly opposed to those historical economic ideas it hides behind when challenged.

                  If you can give me a definition of capitalism that preserves its distinctness as a philosophy that emerged in the liberalism of the 1800s and still somehow is a perrenial philosphy that is the same as the very systems it boasts of replacing have at it. To date no one defending capitalism has managed it.

                  But if you’re using terms like feudal capitalism then you’re not using capitalism in the way either capitalism 1.0, Smith etc all, or capitalism 2.0, misses and rothbard etc. Use the term. You’re already out of the capitalist camp and the name is no more than a relic.

                • jim says:

                  > US Federal level anti-trust laws are not subsitiarity now are they? They are the transfer of power from one disinterested distant power to another, your example of standard oil being a case-in-point

                  That is hilariously detached from reality. Your supervisor must think we are dumb as bricks. You might as well be shilling flat earthism.

                  The standard oil case was massive transfer of wealth and power from people who got rich finding better ways to refine oil into fuel, to people who got rich by hanging around the revolving door between regulators and regulated.

                • Tom says:

                  Neurotoxin,

                  The steak of early capitalism was ‘abolish the oppressive traditional economic system and its check and balances in favour of one which defectors can run rampant and seize power.’ Labour tov is not minutia, it flies in the face of the established market theory of value. It gives unskilled workers a premise to declare themselves oppressed by the natural aristocracy because after all they put in the same hours why don’t they have the same pay?

                  Capitalism itself is the thing that paved the way for socialism. Just price/Salamanca economics said you get a fair price based on what someone will pay so be happy with what you can get.

                  Look at the things the early capitalists say, it’s all greivence-mining material. Look at who they are, far left or left center at best (Toqueville). Look at who opposed them early: traditionalists and reactionaries. It’s writ large that capitalism hit the scene as a revolutionary argumebt against old style economics.

                • jim says:

                  > It’s writ large that capitalism hit the scene ..

                  Marxist history.

                  Capitalism never “hit the scene”.

                  There was capitalism before Old Testament times, before Bronze Age civilization, we have had corporate capitalism since the thirteenth century, and the publicly traded joint stock corporation since 1660

                  You are carrying shill payload, and unresponsively ignoring your interlocutor’s position.

                  You are using language that presupposes capitalism is recent and everyone agrees that capitalism is recent, when that claim has been repeatedly called out and denied.

                  This is appeal to false consensus, which is not allowed on this blog.

                  For argument by false consensus, you are on moderation and will need to take the shill test. Say something that cannot be said by someone on a computer supplied by the FBI IT department or an ngo IT department.

                  You can argue that capitalism is recent, but you are not allowed to assume it is recent, and everyone agrees that it is recent.

                • Tom says:

                  Commentator,

                  Distributivism is a social philosophy more than economic, so cred is the economic side of it. Douglasism is thr 2.0 of so cred. It was not such a small thing in the anglosphere outside the US, it had the religious right for a long time on the Canadian praries, and came in as the no3 party for an era in NZ and I think Australia as well.

                  The basic idea is that in a market economy things have to sell for more than the total currency in circulation for profit to be had, so small amounts of currency ought to be printed to cover that gap, and the increase in productivity will make it so inflation isn’t a problem. That money they goes to productive industries to produce or pay more and productive worker so they can buy more and increase demand.

                  It’s the best aspects of MMT and keynesianism but with better limits on spending than either of them, and it gives the money to producers rather than beurocrats.

                  I’d say MMT vindicated the theory, there is in fact not a 1:1 ratio between money printing and inflation, as doughlas said there would not be. MMT will kill us with hyperinflation, it has no limits or sense. But money printing to closely match real productivity would in fact be stable.

                  Other than thar so cred etc isn’t very interventionist by contemporary standards.

                • jim says:

                  > it had the religious right for a long time on the Canadian praries,

                  Did it now. Looks to me like the usual bunch of bloodthirsty commies looking to loot and burn, smash and grab.

                  What is your source and evidence that they were religious?

                  First you tell the peasant with one cow that he is oppressed by the peasant with two cows, then you kill the cows of the peasant with two cows, then you kill the peasant with one cow, and then discovers that hoarders and black marketeers are causing a milk shortage.

                • The Cominator says:

                  As for the state currency bimettalism worked very well for a long time… I think currency went off the rails with the demonetization of silver probably by design. Let us simply return to bimettalism.

                  Inflation is more complex than the Austrians would have it but mostly they are right.

                  Georgism in a more moderate format is my most “leftist” economic idea… I also oppose mortgages for buying existing homes they should only be for new construction… loans should only be for activities that could reasonably add value not speculating on existing value.

                • alf says:

                  Really? Barely five comments in and already vomiting walls of text on marxist capitalism? Maaaan…

                • jim says:

                  Looks like a script dump. The computer saw me use the trigger phrase “standard oil”, and gave him a pile of stuff that it assumed were relevant for him to vomit forth, but, since the computer is blind to context and meaning, they were not relevant to the context and meaning in which I used the phrase, because I was referencing Standard Oil’s radical reduction in the cost of fuel and radical improvements in oil refining.

                  It is as if I mentioned Musk getting full flow rocket engines to usefully work, and it triggered the computer to direct the shill to expound on windmills and solar power.

                • alf says:

                  Makes sense.

                • Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

                  > Normally they’ll make claims like capitalism saved us from the poverty of feudalism

                  Just curious, but are the only people in your social circles jewish crypto-communists?

                  (That’s a rhetorical question)

                • jim says:

                  Commies make the claim, but they obviously do not believe it. For instead of arguing for it, they falsely attribute it to every other authority under the sun, a method of argument that they know is untrue, therefore, know that they are pushing an obvious untruth uphill.

                  Since they know that the authorities they invoke do not believe capitalism is new, since they know their argument for their claim is a lie, they must know that their claim is a lie.

                  If any of them believed what they were saying, they would tell you why they believed it, instead of telling you that everyone else already believes it.

                  The underlying economic theory of communism is the labor theory of value, but the theory held by a chimp hunting and foraging in the jungle, that stuff is just lying around to be grabbed, and the evil capitalists grabbed it all.

                  And there is grain of truth in their account of feudalism, in that there was always some chaotic anarchy, in which a terrible swift sword counted for everything, and the creation of value counted for nothing, and that sometimes, for example tenth century feudalism, there was a lot of chaotic anarchy. But while you can grab land that way, that land does spontaneously sprout war horses and good plate armor. For that, you need a merchant class, and at the dawn of the eleventh century, the merchant class was deep underground and extremely poor. So feudal lords always faced an urgent need to avoid chaotic anarchy, and enable the merchant class, and though they did not always succeed, for the most part, they were somewhat successful. With the result that after the tenth century a whole lot of merchants rapidly acquired some degree of nobility, and a whole lot of warriors put down their sword and went into merchant type activities.

                  Communist history projects the most heroic, noble, bloodthirsty, chaotic, and poor bits of feudal history, tenth century feudalism, when indeed capital was grabbed rather than created, into the present. But feudal war was capital intensive, requiring not only expensive and highly trained warriors, but expensive armor and expensive warhorses, so the merchant class always had a mighty big lever. It never actually worked the way commies say it worked, not in the tenth century, and even less in the eleventh century. To the extent that it did work the way commies say it worked, Kings rapidly found themselves short of highly trained warriors with good warhorses and good armor.

                  William the Marshal acquired land with his own sword. Which land produced little value. He then acquired warhorses and armor by incentivizing the merchant class to develop that land, in the process becoming a real estate developer and giving merchant class people entry into nobility. Communist history projects William the Marshal’s initial capital acquisition into the present, while writing out of history what he did with that capital.

                • Neurotoxin says:

                  Tom at 2022-07-11 at 05:58,

                  This comment ignores my point, which is that the left circa 1850 – circa 1990 was primarily focused on economics, and the right was responding to that.

                • Neurotoxin says:

                  Tom: “Capitalism itself is the thing that paved the way for socialism.”

                  200-proof Marxism.

                  The intellectual avant-garde was bored with this shit in 1960.

                • Kunning Druegger says:

                  So my intuition was correct. Good to know.

                • as says:

                  [deleted for failure to provide evidence or argument that Capitalism is recent, or even that anyone other than usual Jewish crypto commies deny that it is ancient beyond history and legend]

                • as says:

                  > You can argue that capitalism is recent, but you are not allowed to assume it is recent, and everyone agrees that it is recent.

                  [deleted for failure to provide evidence or argument that Capitalism is recent, or even that anyone other than usual Jewish crypto commies deny that it is ancient beyond history and legend]

                • jim says:

                  If you guys thought you were telling the truth, if you actually believed that capitalism was recent, one of you once would provide evidence or argument.

                  If you guys thought that any man other than usual Jewish crypto commies driven mad by lust for the blood of children claimed that capitalism was recent, you quote him ad nauseam.

                  You have been pushing this meme since 1850, and you have achieved about as much traction as the flat earthers, whom you increasingly resemble.

                  Back when people were hungry for bread, rationales for taking other rich people’s stuff had some appeal, no matter how blatantly silly, but today everyone is either fat or struggling to diet, but no one has enough obedient virgin pussy.

                  White sharia is a meme with pull, socialism has long been completely dead in the water. Although the phrase “white sharia” concedes too much ground to our enemies, by yielding to them the progressive interpretation of Christianity, which used to be post Christianity, but is now increasingly demon worship.

                  The meme needs to be “coverture”. For males, chastity is respecting other men’s property rights in female domestic, reproductive, and sexual services, and for women, supplying sexual services only to the one man who has a legitimate property right in them.

                  In a world where most men are desperate for pussy, and women desperate for manly men, that meme has far more appeal than socialism, which is dead despite the unending efforts of shills to breath life into it.

                  Even when socialism was popular, because people were actually hungry, the “capitalism is recent” meme never gained any traction, and now that no one gives a fart about socialism, it is deader than flat earth.

                • Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

                  Every colour on the rainbow has a gradient where one section of colour blends into the next section.

                  The question is, is that gradient significant enough to be a section in of itself; or is one merely confusing the existence of a gradient for the existence of a section in of itself?

                  If ‘wignat’ was a thing, there would be a ‘wignat high command’ one could point too. Well, what stands in for wignat high command? On one hand, glowniggers like Spencer; on the other hand, good fashy europoids like Anglin. Looks like no wignats in any case, only fednats and fascists.

                • Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

                  (this meant to go in a different thread)

              • jim says:

                If no room, emperor and his court are too intrusive. During the middle ages every kind of polity existed on a small scale.

                But all of them openly had a ruling elite. No one felt the need for the pretence of popular rule.

                • Tom says:

                  Well said! On both counts.

                  It’s just that idea that warms my heart, every kind of polity on small scale, but no pretenders at egalitarianism and obviously fake popular rule.

        • alf says:

          Ha, some good avatar wisdom. I’ll sometimes throw out the ‘you must unblock your chakras, for they must flow like a river.’

    • Shooter McGavin says:

      Speaking of Uncle Ted, I‘m curious what the Jimian take on the anti-tech crowd is?

      • jim says:

        They are a mixed bag.

        Some of them are good guys, looking for autonomy. Most of them are enemy shills, part of the the Cathedral conspiracy that is plotting to reduce world population to five hundred million.

        • Tom says:

          Are there any things I should read that make good refutations to Ted’s claim that technology itself drives moral decay. I’ve come up with some approachs to that claim but feel I could use more and better answes to it.

          When I was a child and reading Lewis’s theology he commented in an offhand way that reliable contraception negates the obviously uncharitable aspect of adultery. That comment disturbed me greatly, needless to say I never accepted it even then. And a full theology of male ownershipand headship of women (which sadly C.S. Lewis did not have) answers it.

          But the whole question of ‘can technology make morality obsolete’ appears to be a serious enough one that big and mainstream names give credence too it.

          I’m not sure I can claim that technology never makes a moral obsolete, but I think it’s quite a surely rare that it does. Thoughts and direction in this are appreciated.

          • jim says:

            Are there any things I should read that make good refutations to Ted’s claim that technology itself drives moral decadence.

            Just look around.

            What stops old testament family and sex law from being enforced today? It is not technology, it is cops. If a patriarch enforces it, likely to be arrested, if a community enforces it, wacoed.

            That is a Cathedral narrative that Ted bought, not a ted narrative.

            And the counter to that is that technology has not changed significantly, while moral decay proceeds spectactularly, and that all decadent civilizations, at wildly different technological levels, have much the same smell. Empirically, no significant correlation.

            • Tom says:

              When you put it that way it sounds right. The cathedral seems to imply that is ‘moral improvement’ makes technology. I suppose Ted was smart enough to read the implication that that would mean technology would be linked to cathedral style moral decay. Of course neither is true.

              That’s right though, the moral decay of Rome is not so different than the Mameluke moral decay nor our own nor from what I understand of it the moral decay of Sumeria. That’s a good retort, I’ll keep it for my rhetorical use in the future, thank you.

              • Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

                Felicity of instrumental techne is downstream from more transcendent forms of techne; surplus capital arranged from each and all can make degeneracy look affordable, but this serves only to eat its own seed corn.

                Put in other words, gewgaws are not drivers of progress or decline, but lagging indicators.

            • Shooter McGavin says:

              I know that technological decline is one of the themes of the blog but I feel like it doesn’t do justice to Ted‘s narrative. Yeah Shaniqua isn’t going to get us to Mars but the smarter Cathedralites are going to keep improving on inevitably dystopian tech like VR.

              • jim says:

                > but the smarter Cathedralites are going to keep improving on inevitably dystopian tech like VR.

                Has it been improving?

                Rockets are now improving, after fifty years of decline, but Musk is no Cathedralite.

                • Shooter McGavin says:

                  Musk is a good example actually. Isn‘t he also trying to improve on neural implants as well? Seems like a classic neo-Luddite example of tech heading in a bad direction.

                • jim says:

                  Obviously that depends on who controls your neural implant. It is not a “wrong” direction, it is a direction with very great potential for abuse.

                  And similarly, Musk’s rockets not only have great potential for settling Mars, but also great potential for delivering weapons upon your enemy’s heads. A radar system similar to the starlink network could track the movement of every human sized or larger object on the face of the earth.

          • Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

            Techne is an extended phenotype. This was one of Heidegger’s core insights, which is carried on by a certain number of later thinkers, from Marshal McCluhan to Nick Land.

            The construal of different forms of techne is, in essence, the construal of different species of being. Humanoid+techne is a different kind of being than humanoid+not!techne, or humanoid+different!techne. Forms of techne themselves – which is to say, forms of capital themselves – can have teleologies unto themselves, not necessarily isometric with those of ‘less technical’ beings. None of it is ‘value neutral’, that is to say. Every form of power has a flavor, more or less given to different ends.

            Many primitivists will correctly note that a given form of techne may have its own logic, and that an entity’s utilization of the techne likewise requires and or results in the bringing of itself into alignment with that logic; which is very well, but which in turn is often delivered with the uncritical assumption that this is only or can only be an ultimately negative process.

            Observation of natural law is observation of the will of God; participation in the will of God is participation in the Power of God; to participate in the Power of God is to come into alignment with God – come into oneness with God; that which takes up the mantles of divinity, and becomes their conduits, their Avatars, substrates through which the forces of Creation instantiate themselves in Being.

            • Tom says:

              I enjoy McLuhan quite a lot, and know something of Heidigger but nothing of Land.

              In the Guttenberg Galaxy McLuhan talks about a parable of Lao Tsus farmer who refuses to have irrigation installed because the pump would make his heart like a machine.

              I would observe that use of technology causes many to lose their humility. Especially the left seems to think they are wiser than Aquinas or Aristotle because they can drive a car and those primitives could drive cars. Not literally of course but the jist of ‘I have tech they dont, thus I’m smarter’ is a real problem.

              Of course that isn’t technologies fault. I think I beleive that I can have the irrigation ditch but still keep my humility, thus my humanity and heart. But McLuhan taught that we must be mindful to do that, the temptation of confusing the power of techne given to us with our own earned power us quite real.

              • Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

                A lot of Land’s biggest hits were delivered through his Xenosystems web log, which is sadly defunct now, but hints and glimpses can be seen through archive sites.

                His answer of course would be that not only do you not need to worry about humility, you don’t need to worry about the humanity part either; and in fact let’s just push all that to the side if it gets in the way; apotheosis of autonomic capital teleoplexing now.

                • Tom says:

                  If I understand you, and I’m not sure I do, I perhaps wouldn’t like Land overmuch.

                  Humanity perhaps doesn’t need to be worried about simply because it is what humans are. But humility is key to nurturing virtues, after Faith and Charity it is the most important.

                  And I don’t think a technological society can survive a lack of virtue, much less develop.

                • Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

                  You might not; i would not say he is one to be read uncritically in any case.

                  The first thing to understand about Land is that he is Anglo – or in particular, cladistically Bluetribe Anglo; with all the liberalism (in many senses of the word) that entails. But at the same rate, he perhaps more than anyone else at the time most clearly, emphatically, and presciently hammered home on the fundamental incompatibility of the whig priesthood’s pretension of responsibility for progress, in general, but most especially instrumentally. The fateful pivot to the more Perennial edge of the pool was inaugurated by his penning of an analysis of Moldbug’s oeuvre (http://www.thedarkenlightenment.com/the-dark-enlightenment-by-nick-land/), whose title also ended up widely borrowed as a by-word for the whole business.

                  When the communist would say ‘our goal is the happiness of all mankind, capitalism is a temporary speedbump on the road to progress’, Land would say ‘lol capital doesnt even need you to exist feeble ape creature, garbage time is running out’. Taken by itself, it is a powerful memetic reframing of the whole context of the debate. The forcing of one’s commie interlocutor to acknowledge the ultimate reality of ‘yeah actually we dont care about going to mars or anything like that, if that means we lose out of status; we just want to keep everyone else trapped in this crab bucket with with us together, forever’. The highlighting of the leftist as not merely wrong or mistaken, in an abstract debate club sense, but as powerless and irrelevant, on a cosmic scale.

                  The faustian spirit of seeking to plumb the depths to any extent possible, no matter what is on the other side, in full effect (https://archive.ph/G9UKI).

                • Tom says:

                  ‘, emphatically, and presciently hammered home on the fundamental incompatibility of the whig priesthood’s pretension of responsibility for progress’

                  It’s hard not to respect that.

                  It does sound like he has a knack for good framing, and I would opine his frame is true as well, though probably for different reasons. I tend to think in terms of Lewis’s ‘The Great Divorce’, in which the deziens of hell subject themselves to unfathomable irrelevance. And that irrelevace is made all the greater by how self-important they are.

                  Thank you for the links.

      • Kunning Drueger says:

        I haven’t finished it yet, but Uncle Ted’s little poem definitely starts out based and redpilled, the way he addresses liberalism, feminism, and minorities.

        https://youtu.be/4TkFmmdmk50

    • Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

      The term i always favored, though i don’t really trumpet it, is – borrowing from those men-out-of-time of the mid 20th century, such as Guenon or Evola – Perennialism.

      Because of course, this is ultimately nothing less than due observance of the eternal regulation of Being, as it comes to be expressed in any particular temporal contingency.

      • Kunning Drueger says:

        This seems apt. I agree with Auron MacIntyre that NRx is a lens, an interpretive framework, for assessing the political zeitgeist and history, not an ideology. Perennialism seems like a broad enough term to encompass the various forms and factions. Both New Right and Dissident Right have a postmodern ring that I find unappealing.

        Is it fake and/or gay to preface or append modifiers? In the ultra rare situations that I’m honest about it IRL, I term myself a Mencian Restorationist with Jimian Characteristics (I think I’ve uttered the phrase once). So does Mencian Perennialist or Perennialist Monarchist make sense terminologically?

        • Tom says:

          Yes perrenialist is a great term. I suppose I think anyone who is meaningful right wing in any way is perrenialist though.

          I like modifiers, plus I can suck up kunning who accused me of being a shill and ender him to me by supporting his idea.

          Techno-perrenialist sounds like a satisfying psudoparadoxical moniker to me.

          Still, I like something that signals faith and government type if possible, without getting to long. For example Evola was not Christian, so that weakens the perrenialist name to me a bit. It’s also why I don’t use Traditionalism, too many psudo pagan Traditionalists who want to drag Hindu nonsense into it.

          • Kunning Drueger says:

            I think the consensus is that those who decline to deep faith, which is to say real faith, need only conform to the letter of the law in the State Faith in all things public and professional. Keeping their personal reservations and doubts inside the walls of their castle should be enough, right? Then again, the tendrils of entropy always seem to find the faithless first.

            No need to suck up to me. I’m merely tolerated in this demesne. If you’re trying to join up with the neo-puritans, pool’s closed.

            • Tom says:

              Those who don’t believe have in on their own heads. Those who want official accommodations for unbelief, who want a wholly toothless or abolished state religion, I don’t like.

              In any case I think signaling affiliation is important. Being on team Christiandom doesn’t always entail any specific Christian faith. I’d prefer it did, but I welcome folks like, say, Dutton who seems Atheist philosophically but nonetheless champions Chriatian society like a lion. I wish such folks the best and consider them at least brothers in a cause.

        • Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

          Has a similar energy to something like, ‘I am an anarcho-catholic’.

          Though of course, my friend, one might perhaps say something like ‘I am a yankee-perennialist’; since of course, the character of a folk likewise informs the character through which they may approach more felicitous coherence with Providence.

          • Tom says:

            Did Tolkien ever call himself anarcho-catholic? It’s not a bad name for his views. But yes there is a silliness there. I’m fond of some silliness though.

            In the spirit of your suggestion I should declare myself a Hygge-Perrenialist. Perhaps I should meme it. It fits in with certain memetrends already extant.

            • Cataclysm Reawake says:

              “I’m fond of some silliness though”

              Yes we can see that, Mr. Bombadil :^)

              • Kunning Druegger says:

                Holy shit, I didn’t even catch that. What’s with shills using Tolkienic nomenclature? Do they really think we’ll just immediately in-group them?

  84. Richard W. Comerford says:

    As I’ve said countless times before: the leftists/globalists continue to eliminate, one by one, all of the non-violent options for their removal. They are working hard to guarantee that their overthrow will be violent. May it happen soon.

  85. Javier says:

    This is something even normies are noticing at my work. Democrats are going down in flames and they don’t even care, they are openly contemptuous of voters. They are not governing like a party in deep peril of losing, they are acting like they can do whatever they want and no one will stop them. They are probably right.

    • The Cominator says:

      Normies around me seem convinced they can’t rig it again or can’t rig it enough…

      I sort of agree they can’t rig the house.

    • jim says:

      Observed behavior. They act as if they know perfectly well the election was stolen, and intend to steal it all over again.

      My prediction was inaccurate in timing, but the net outcome looks to be much the same as predicted in time for the 2022 elections. When the dust settles, I will likely wind up calling it a mostly accurate prediction. Accurate except that the left postponed the conduct that would make abnormality embarrassingly obvious, embarrassingly soon, while I incorrectly predicted that they would go shameless immediately.

      What appears to have happened is that the steal was carried out by a coalition of left factions, with some factions believing that they had agreed to restore normality by abnormal means, and other left factions believing that they had agreed to stop the Republic from getting in the way of immanentizing the eschaton, and would go directly ahead to the planned reduction of world population to five hundred million.

      Elites will postpone any clarification of what was in fact agreed to until the last possible moment, and at the last possible moment, or shortly after the last possible moment, those who thought that they had agreed to restoring normality by abnormal means will be utterly steamrollered, and by and by will find themselves following Trump and company to the guillotine, much as the Girond followed the King to the guillotine, much as those who thought that they could restore normality by murdering Caesar on the Senate floor wound up dead.

      The attacks on food production represent the “reduce world population to sustainable levels” faction. The “normality by abnormal means” faction has to kill them if it wants to live, but because of normality bias, will fail to do so. The World War III and reduce-population factions will have no similar inhibitions.

      • Kunning Drueger says:

        It seems that you are discounting either the existence of, or the capabilities of, elites unaligned with the Cathedral. They do exist, and they will act, to late to save the republic (that was at least a generation ago), but act all the same.

        • jim says:

          Saving America requires a shared faith. Or a Caesar.

          The best lack all conviction while the worst are full of passionate intensity.

          It became apparent during the Republican primary season, that the counter faith that is capable of opposing the Cathedral is Christian National Capitalism.

          It is not sufficient that many members of the elite are aware that the elite is holiness spiraling into a course that will destroy everyone and everything, including each other.

          Those aware of this have to have something that enables them to act as one.

  86. Andy says:

    A possible tranny Stalin (or Napoleon) on the way then?

    • Mister Grumpus says:

      Jenner? No one’s dumping on Jenner.

    • Pooch says:

      It’ll be more like Musk. Not a tranny himself but he has at least one tranny kid, probably more.

      • Gedeon says:

        AI babies. As in artificial insemination.

        LOL

        Learned men, come on. Multi-births with only Y chromosomes? Mind you, I am the oldest of eleven XYs and zero XXs in my generation on the paternal side of my family, but that is by two XX and two XY and the next generation is throwing a more even distribution, albeit slightly favoring XX.

        In any case, solavatar is having engineered outcomes in every facet of his life.

        • Guy says:

          Maybe with one chick that had issues but he’s knocked up a few broads now right? You guys think he’s artificially inseminating every hot chick he impregnates? I think he’s just busting nuts

  87. Calvin says:

    Off topic: some Party stooge apparently left the personal data of something like 70% of China lying around on a server with literally no protection, not even a password. What are the odds the alphabet agencies have done likewise?

  88. Karl says:

    Why does it matter whether the Republican base abandons the cuckservative party?

    The appearance of normality requires a few candidates and election results that make them win a few unimportant offices and lose all others by a narrow or not so narrow margin. Fake elections can be held without a Republican base.

    • S says:

      To appear normal requires ‘the pendulum will swing the other way’ to be believable.

      If the Republicans are permanently shut out from government or the republicans have no pretence of resemblance to the base that is unsupportable.

      • Karl says:

        The cuckersative candidates are winning the primaries. That is pretence of resemblance to the base.

        • S says:

          I’m referring to the cucks pretending to their base. Rigging the primaries is the left pretending the cucks represent the Republican base.

          In the former the base can believe these people are on their side and working through accepted channels works while the latter tells them they are ruled by people who hate and despise them and want them dead.

          The reason this is important is once the fake right becomes unconnected to voters it has no longer any reason for existence. Then the right most faction of the left is exposed to the grindstone…

        • Kunning Drueger says:

          Who do you think the base is?

          • Karl says:

            I think the base is the normies who have been voting republican for decades.

            I think normies don’t matter, and therefore the base does not matter – until the shooting starts

        • Red says:

          No one thinks that Dr. Oz is a Republican or that he won his primary without vote rigging. He’s now sitting out the race to let the Dems win it with a candidate who just had a stroke and can barley speak.

          • Gedeon says:

            And trump stumped for oz. Confirmation of his real orientation.

            lol

            • Kunning Drueger says:

              Meh. It could also be that Trump is personally loyal. They come from the same tribe: TV stars.

      • Varna says:

        Concerning the regular and orderly rotation of elites through free and fair elections as being a basic fundament of democracy.
        https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/democracy-countries

        Japan scores rather high as a democracy, and the power in power had been in power since 1955. So their ability to elect a different power for a full term and regularly is imaginary. We just *know* that they are a democracy, and that if *they really wanted to* sure they would elect a different govt, they just don’t want to, because the current people are excellent.

        Singapore’s party in power has been in power since 1959. It too counts as a democracy, albeit scoring lower end eastern european levels. In the last few elections, the prez was chosen without a competitor. Just one candidate.

        In high-scoring South Korea you’re not allowed to badmouth the Prez or the army or write online opinions anonymously. This too is somehow democratic, because of course worst Korea is “a special case”.

        Austria is a federation of 9 states, of which 5 have been governed by the same party since 1945. Since bloody 1945. Austria.

        Bavaria in Germany is a bit like that, and Italian Tyrol is utterly like that.

        Modern Scotland is a good example of a place drifting fast into a single-party state. Wales has been single-party since 1922.

        Botswana, Namibia, Tanzania are all “democracies” but have had the same govt since independence. As has South Africa. They too have imaginary rotation of elites through voting.

        Not unlike how during the lockdown and mandate madness, the places enforcing them across the West still scored high on various freedoms and liberties indexes. They could have at least temporarily lowered their scores during the obvious lack of freedoms, and then reinstated the scores afterword, instead the freedoms were accepted to still exist there, you can’t actually use them, but they still exist, just sort of imaginary.

        There are modern US leftists who obviously want an imaginary rotation of elites East-Asia style, in the sense of course we could elect another party if we wanted to, we just don’t because this one is doing a fantastic job.

        Whereas some US rightists seem to have accommodated the idea of the US on a state level becoming an Austria with constituent states become red or blue in perpetuity.

        Just remembering that rotation of elites doesn’t apparently count with “the good guys” and can be entirely imaginary is another good example of how institutions and media can turn concepts on their heads. Not to speak of the amazing freedoms the west had during the lockdowns and mandates.

  89. Karl says:

    The war on food is just beginning in the US, but it has gone over the top in Denmark

    Didn’t hear about Denmark. Is it the same thing as in the Netherlands?

    • Oog en Hand says:

      In the Netherlands they are shooting on farmers. There are also people who give the farmers a taste of their own medicine.

  90. Oog en Hand says:

    Some red meat….
    Understatement of the year. The voter base of the Republicans is smellling blood, to put it MILDLY. Roe vs Wade reversal is the biggest breach of normalcy you could conceive.

  91. Aryaman says:

    A possibly useful resource, to that end:

    https://www.survivorlibrary.com/

  92. Calvin says:

    And why do you suppose they haven’t just sent some patsy to do a Shinzo Abe on him?

    • The Cominator says:

      Shinzo Abe just might be the rare happening nowadays that really is just some lone nutcase acting alone because killing a former PM who though right wing was (in the manner of Japanese politicians) was rather quiet. He was very against Covid hysteria though…

      • The Cominator says:

        I meant killing a former PM especially a quiet one makes little sense…

      • Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

        The schizo rrats are all blossoming over the fact that he recently criticised the handling of Ukraine now has been killed.

        • The Cominator says:

          Hes never towed the line, he didn’t do it with covid either. But there still isn’t much point in whacking him, the Japanese parties make decision by consensus anyway. Its just the consensus in Japan is for some reason not evil and insane.

          • S says:

            I think Japan is in the same position as Poland- there can’t force too much poz because they need it as a bulwark against China.

          • Pooch says:

            Tucker implying that China had him wacked as they boasted about it after the fact apparently,

            • Red says:

              China might have pulled the trigger, but the Cathedral gave them the go ahead, much like how Patton was murdered.

              • Neurotoxin says:

                China is an enemy of the Cathedral and does not need or want the Cathedral’s approval for its actions.

                • Red says:

                  China’s both Friend and Foe of the Cathedral. They’re quite entwined in many aspects especially as Xi makes his big push back into Marxism.

                • The Cominator says:

                  Xi is yet one example in history that shows the great danger in not hunting down and helicoptering every leftist.

                • Neurotoxin says:

                  @Red.

                  I stand by my original statement. Look at the hostility of the GAE’s rhetoric on China with respect to (1) Russia’s invasion of Ukraine and China’s effectively siding with Russia, (2) the Taiwan situation.

                  Particularly with respect to (1), US ambassadors, etc., have been saying things that no sane government official in a sane country would say. E.g., “If China doesn’t start participating in our embargoes against Russian trade, we are going to punish China.” The rhetoric is over-the-top hostile.

                • Gedeon says:

                  [*deleted for incurable loss of contact with reality*]

                • jim says:

                  Not going to debate that one.

      • Aidan says:

        My guess is that the Abe hit was the war faction in the US, hoping to install a government as belligerent to China as UKR was to Russia.

        I doubt any government could rouse the sleeping oni that is the Japanese warrior spirit, but if they did, that would be loosing a hound that would not go back on the leash

        • Jehu says:

          Motivating the New and Reborn IJA and IJN with the promise of copious XP awards and comfort waifus?

          Sounds insane but we do live in insane times.

    • S says:

      Lack of inter-elite trust preventing the use of competent assassins? Desire to humiliate and destroy him before killing him? The suspicion if they kill Emmanuel Goldstein, people are going to attack the party for wreaking?

    • onyomi says:

      If you look at the security (or incredible lack thereof for a major political figure, by post-JFK American standards) on that tape it becomes plausible that it was almost a matter of time/could just be a lone nut job. Also probable to me that the overall level of sanity in the world is just down post-covid, such that what was once a good enough level of security in good-ish times in a high-trust place like Japan no longer is.

    • Ghost says:

      Tetsuya Yamagami, a former Japanese military member, is the killer.

      Japan also has a thriving antifa movement led by former Japanese politician Saori Ikeuchi who routinely called Abe facist and compared him to Hitler.

      Both Yamagami and Ikeuchi publicly expressed hatred toward Abe and Yamagami fits the Japanese antifa profile of dress, appearance, political direct action, and manufacture if crude weapons.

      I don’t see the China link. If a Chinese assassin had done this, it would be more professional.

      • Gedeon says:

        I think it would’ve been done with a corporate manufactured weapon, imo, if it was CCP. It’s not that the 80% DIY can’t be competently milled and function as intended, it’s that they commonly do malfunction and would not be as reliable for such a consequential mission. It’s not like anyone can go to the range and tune a DIY pistol anywhere in Japan, so plenty of failure risk that would be embarrassing for the CCP should events take on a life of their own.

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