Fixed privacy leak in avatars

Following the wise advice of Prince Charming, I edited a custom personal 256 bit secret into the php code of Avatar Privacy avatar generator, so that now it actually works as it is supposed to.

So now we have avatars, and actually do have privacy.

My own personal experience in security is that your boss orders one to do something inexplicably stupid that introduces a subtle flaw, an order that one would not expect your boss to give, or even to understand, but the flaw does not flat out report everything directly to the NSA, and the flaw is arguable – one is not flat out breaking security, it is just subtly weak, in a way complicated to explain and not entirely trivial to exploit.

And when you try to explain the problem to him he does not want to listen, and is unable to understand.

I conjecture that this is what happened to the Avatar Privacy plugin.

The flaw, explained by Prince Charming and checked by me is that the salt does not salt – it is same salt for every user, and the salt is quite short, thirty two bits, and thus can be easily reversed by exhaustive search. Given one known email, one can reverse the salt. Given the salt, one can reverse the hash of the any email. You have to throw the entire population of potential email addresses, which may well be enormous, at the hash of the email, but this does not take that long.

The central authority has a list of everyone they could do harm to, and try the list against the hash of the emails of the blog commenters who have offended by displaying inadequate holiness.

I could have fixed the salt part, and perhaps I will, but instead used a 256 bit site wide secret prepended to every hash directly in the source code.

return \hash( 'sha256', "my custom secret"."{$this->get_salt()}{$identifer}" );

This results in everyone randomly getting a new avatar, which will likely be different from the old one.

1,213 Responses to “Fixed privacy leak in avatars”

  1. Anonymous Fake says:

    Jim, what explains the high fertility rate of African Americans as slaves? Moldbug even mentioned this in a kind of spoof of fascism, in that the most successful genetic strategy generally isn’t conquering (what the pozzed West does best, like the Puritans), but getting conquered. For another example, the Palestinians for a long time were breeding faster than the Jews, until the ultra-Orthodox were set up as a breeding caste, and their existence is like a kind of paradoxical voluntary slavery only the Talmud could explain.

    Finally, what explains the ideal of being a rich employee? An entrepreneur who does whatever makes the most money so he can buy a gold chain for his neck is a “newly rich” and probably ethnic stereotype of very low status, but a lifelong employee who bows down to a boss to receive a medal is in a prestige position.

    Also, note that the Democrats tend to be establishment employees, while the grifters go Republican. We can see where that leads.

    • jim says:

      Warning. Gender neutral language.

      Don’t use gender neutral language. It makes you stupid and ignorant.

      Obviously the female slaves were fertile, because they were slaves. Nothing mysterious or surprising about that. Because the production of too many mulattos was frowned upon, this benefited the male slaves.

      Same as whites were fertile before female emancipation.

      Being conquered is seldom a successful reproductive strategy for males and it is an exceptionally bad strategy for whites, because white males tend to make poor slaves, and their conquerors are necessarily white or whitish, so are going to hog all the women.

      Being conquered is usually a highly successful strategy for females, because, as I said, they escape from defect/defect equilibrium, the reproductive game of players and bitches. In intergroup conflict the reproductive interests of males, especially white males, are diametrically opposed to the reproductive interests of women. The reason that females are apt to egg their tribe on to war is not because they want to see their tribe win, but because they want to see someone win.

      As for the “ideal of being a rich employee”. Nuts. No one wants to be a rich employee – it is always a path towards not being an employee. Trouble is that Sarbannes Oxley has shut down the entrepreneurial path that Charles the Second opened.

      The highest priority for a crypto currency should be to re-open free discussion. (Since we are, at the moment, out of power, we are temporarily free speech enthusiasts) But the second highest priority, and the one that will get us money, is re-opening the path to entrepreneurship, and we should primarily be interested in freedom of speech about money and transactions, since the primary tactic of the enemy is shutting down forums where people can discuss unregulated transactions.

      • suones says:

        Obviously the female slaves were fertile, because they were slaves. Nothing mysterious or surprising about that.

        Cutting reality at the joints. Thanks, Jim. You punched a hole in Moldfag’s argument large enough to fly the Hindenburg through. Though I can’t decipher if Moldfag is really this stupid or simply uses crimestop whenever it comes to the WQ.

      • Anonymous Fake says:

        [deleted because unresponsive and too totally disconnected from observed reality to be fisked*]

        • jim says:

          Neither the Samurai nor the East India Company, nor the people that gave us the industrial revolution, were a bunch of pussies. From Charles the Second to around 2000AD, capitalism just does not fit your story.

          • Anonymous Fake says:

            I wonder if modern marketing killed capitalism. Manipulating others (which translates to implementing public policy) is what drives the market now, not the hypothetical natural demand curve. Corporate elites can push ideology just as well as products, and THIS WORKS. They threaten politicians all the time in the way entrepreneurs, a dying breed, do not.

            I don’t care if they’re pussies if they’re winners. I want to be a winner too, to have mind control powers bigger than Harvard’s. What I describe is what the left calls fascism, but in my case it’s a beginning rather than an end of ideology.

            • jim says:

              Marketing has no power. Ninety percent of marketing is purely informational, informing the potential customer of price, availability, and functionality. Take a random sample of ads:

              Do an internet search for anything, you will get some ads: What do the ads say?

              In almost every case, they say “we have this stuff, and here is what this stuff can do for you.”. No mysterious magical hidden persuaders. It is mildly irritating if you are not looking to buy the stuff. I DuckDuckGo “amorphous photovoltaic”, up comes an ad for solar panel window, but there is no magic mind control in the ad. It just tells me, quite accurately, what transparent solar panels can do for you, and has a picture of the interior of a nice building with masses of solar panel windows.

              These ads are quite useful if you are actually in need of that good or service. If you are not in need of that good or service (transparent solar panels are only relevant to people who intend to build a building of glass and steel) they are irritating, but do not have or attempt to have any magic mind control tricks to make me want them.

              It is absolutely obvious what is killing capitalism:

              1. The Human Resources Department (Intel can no longer make chip foundries, because you have to accept duds on your team if they are women or gay. You also have to accept duds on your team if they claim to be black, but male blacks tend to be less of a problem for some reason I do not understand.) One dud on a high tech team, the whole team fails. One team fails on a big high tech project, the whole project fails.

              2. Sarbanes Oxley. Startups have died due to Sarbanes Oxley, which is why Silicon Valley is dying. Silicon valley was born of Shockley and the Fairchildren, who walked the path that King Charles the second opened, giving us the East India Company Empire and the Industrial Revolution. Sarbanes Oxley has shut down that path, shut down the path that gave us empire, shut down the path that gave us the industrial revolution, and shut down the path that gave us Silicon Valley.

              For ninety ninety nine out of a hundred people who see an ad, it is just noise, no magic persuasion capability. For the one in a hundred that is the intended audience, for the audience that it is written for, it is purely informational. They seldom waste precious ad space with clever, but not very effective, magic mind control tricks.

              Look what the marketers spend their ad space on: Information, information, and information. They do not think, or the people that pay them do not think, that they have magic mind control powers.

              For the vast majority of people who reluctantly get the ad inflicted on them, it is irrelevant information. For the small minority that the ad is actually targeting, it is relevant information. For neither group is it magic mind control with mysterious mind control powers.

              If people who work in advertising claim to have mysterious magic mind control powers, it is clear that those who pay them do not believe.

              Type “Pizza” into the search field. The first link will be an ad. Click on the link: It will announce “Pizza and sides”, have a picture of pizza and side, a price, and field for you to type in the address for delivery. Purely informational. Where is the magic mind control? Is it somehow creating pizza cravings in innocent people who would otherwise be slim?

              It is purely an announcement of price and availability, directed purely at people who wanted to know about price and availability.

              The suggested size of the offer suggests that it is primarily directed at families and gatherings, but there will be nothing making the (entirely plausible) claim that you are going to be popular with your family or gathering. No persuaders, let alone mysterious, nefarious, and magically powerful persuaders. It just announces product, price, and how get the product.

            • Aidan says:

              Speaking as someone with a bit of experience in this field, the margins on “manipulative” advertising are tiny. When you watch a beer commercial that portrays a mass market shit beer as high status, implying that people who drink this beer are popular at parties or something, the expected return is that a tiny percentage of people are very slightly more likely to pick one crap beer over another crap beer the next time they are in the grocery store. These tiny margins turn into huge profits if you are a huge company whose beer can be found in any grocery store in the country, competing against ten other mass market lagers that all taste the same, but I cant call it manipulation in good faith.

              For products that are not competing in saturated markets, advertising is a lot more honest and a lot less “manipulative”. Marketing is about competition, about demand that already exists, and not about creating demand.

              • jim says:

                > When you watch a beer commercial that portrays a mass market shit beer as high status

                I don’t see such commercials. I suppose they must exist, and some people see them, but ninety percent of ads are purely informational.

                Which indicates that such commercials are, as you say, not particularly effective and of limited value except in special cases. If you have a six identical beers competing, try to give each one a different image.

                • The Cominator says:

                  Hes referring to the old beer ads on tv that used to be sort of like this.

                  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64-WBJ5Ykw4

                • jim says:

                  That link is a parody of “old beer ads”.

                  The thing being parodied, is however, impossible to find. Does it exist? Did it ever exist?

                  Well, in theory, it might exist, or might have existed. Or, on the available evidence, maybe it never existed.

                  In the parallel universe envisaged by Harvard, it is omnipresent, totally dominant, and they need to fight the man.

                • The Cominator says:

                  “The thing being parodied, is however, impossible to find. Does it exist? Did it ever exist?”

                  Old old beer ads used to imply drink beer and hot women will have sex with you.

                  Then the ads transitioned into the more lame I want the beer.

                • jim says:

                  > Old old beer ads used to imply drink beer and hot women will have sex with you.

                  Maybe.

                  I don’t recall this. I have seen it claimed a lot.

                  But near as I can tell, the sole source for this factoid is people ranting about how bad it was.

                  Surely with all the tracts on the evils of sexism, someone would have preserved an example of this terrible evil?

                  Near as I can tell, the source for all this stuff is political material like Galbraith’s “The affluent society”. Which is a pack of lies from beginning to end.

                  There were, and probably are, plenty of ads saying that your party will popular and party goers will have fun if you serve beer at the party. Which is true enough, and not a mysterious sneaky deceptive hidden persuader. The only reason I ever buy beer is for other people to drink at social events (I prefer moonshine). It is easy to see that hostile, evil, and malicious people could spin this as saying “Hot chicks will have sex with you if you drink beer”, which is obviously stupid. Rather, the party scenario depicted hints that if you serve them beer …

                  But the party scenario depicted seemed to focus on men at a party drinking beer and enjoying the social event. Which is in fact the primary use of beer, not some clever deceptive jedi mind trick.

                  It is hardly out of line for the advertiser to depict people using their product in the way that it is fact usually used – to lubricate social events.

                  There is nothing manipulative or deceptive about an advertiser depicting his product being used effectively and successfully for its purpose.

                • simplyconnected says:

                  I thought pretty obvious ads try to appeal to emotion. Not that they all succeed.
                  This famous Ikea commercial is telling you not to get attached to old furniture so you will buy new furniture. Nothing is said about price and availability of products.

                • jim says:

                  Nuts

                  Your poster girl, the Ikea ad, directly contradicts your claim.

                  If your claim was “obvious”, or even remotely plausible, you would have a better poster girl.

                  The Ikea ad is not being manipulative. It is straight up front telling us not to get emotionally attached to their old furniture.

                  People do get emotionally attached to their old furniture. I get emotionally attached to my old furniture

                  The ad evokes the emotions of attachment to old furniture, and then straight up tells us not to feel like that. This is the precise opposite of appealing to emotion. It straight up tells us that the feeling that ad evokes, which is the feeling that they don’t want people to feel, is irrational.

                  This is the precise opposite of emotional manipulation. They evoke the feeling, then tell us that we are crazy to feel like that.

                  I don’t think I am crazy to feel like. Old stuff provides a comfortable ambience, which new stuff cannot. So I never spend much money on furniture except when moving. But they are not being manipulative. They are straight up in your face speaking to us. I don’t think they are right, but they are making the argument right up front, not manipulating us by appealing to emotion.

                  They want people to chuck out their old furniture. Emotional manipulation would be depicting old furniture as low status, out of style, and shabby. They are not doing that.

                  My furniture is low status, out of style, and frequently shabby. I like it like that. Ikea could tell me about my furniture being the way that it is, but they don’t.

                • Aidan says:

                  I am talking about TV ads, not internet ones.

                • jim says:

                  Well, I seldom watch TV, and I have ad blockers on Youtube. But if there are TV ads that are like this, there should be Youtube ad like this.

                  Where is the poster girl?

                  What I see on TV is the commodity being used for its intended purpose. The nearest thing I saw on television to emotional manipulation was a pizza ad that suggested that if you ordered a pizza, your family members would enthusiastically show up to eat it.

                  The scenario was a working wife was failing to cook dinner, thus failing to provide a social occasion for the family to gather, so the patriarch ordered pizza and everyone happily and eagerly shows up. It “appeals to emotions”, but it appeals by depicting pizza delivery being successfully used for its intended purpose. The success is exaggerated, and I suppose that arguably constitutes emotional manipulation, but it just does not resemble the jedi mind tricks that are claimed.

                  Pizzas are designed to be shared. Successful use is intended to have emotional effect. Similarly, beer. Nothing manipulative about depicting a product being successfully used for its intended purpose.

                  It seems to me that if TV ads actually did the clever jedi mind control, there would be Youtube ads that actually did this clever mind control, and someone would be able to link to a plausible example.

                • Contaminated NEET says:

                  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4BOQ804McE

                  Here’s a classic. Don’t be a loser who lacks the balls to order a beer in front of the boss. Yes, the spokesman/mascot guy makes a case for having a beer on the company expense account, but the real message is don’t be like these ridiculous capons.

                  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCqZp43vRpA

                  How about this one? I can’t even tell what it has to do with perfume.

                  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20n-cD8ERgs

                  Suzanne researched this!

                • jim says:

                  > Here’s a classic

                  The beer ad tells us verbally that you should not knock back a beer on some one else’s tab.

                  It non verbally tells us that when your host offers you a drink, it is anti social rather than demonstrating superior virtue to not accept.

                  The scenario is that the boss is taking three employees to lunch. He wordless invites them to order drinks. Employee number one sweats. Should he have a drink at work? “I will have a glass of water please”. Employee number two sees that this is being anti social, so orders water with a twist of lemon. Employee number three orders a beer, whereupon the boss orders a beer, and is glad to have someone to drink it with.

                  Now if the boss is taking his employees to lunch, it is likely because he wants the truth out of them so wants them lubricated, or maybe he just wants to be social, so wants them lubricated. Or maybe he just wants to have a drink, and wants someone to drink with to give him justification for the drink. But when your boss offers you drinks, the conversation is likely to eventually go to things where he might otherwise not hear the whole truth from employees.

                  They are ridiculous because they feel under pressure because of the invitation. They are worried that drinking during worktime, even if invited by the boss, demonstrates poor character. The non verbal message of the ad is that you should not feel pressured to demonstrate your non alcoholic virtue. Should accept hospitality, and this is likely to please the person offering the hospitality, while demonstrating virtue is likely to raise the tension.

                  They were capons because they did raise the tension.

                  Which non verbal emotional level claim is true, relevant to actual usage of the product, and not a jedi mind trick. If your boss hospitably offers you drinks, he probably suspects he is not necessarily getting the full truth, and if you knock him back, he is going to suspect a lot more strongly. Capon one and capon two not only looked low status. They looked low status because they looked like people who were scared because they had something to hide from their boss, while the third employee, who ordered the beer, looked high status because he looked like someone who did not feel that having a drink with the boss was a dangerous minefield. (Which it frequently is.)

                  > I can’t even tell what it has to do with perfume

                  The Obsession ad has everything to do with perfume. It says that hot chicks will like you if you wear the perfume. Which seems to me unlikely to be true, though my wife frequently sprays me with something, so maybe it is not entirely stupid. It less ridiculous than the original claim, that beer ads implied that hot chicks will like you if you drink beer. (Though in truth, they will probably like you if they drink beer) Beer ads don’t imply either one, and they would fail miserably if they attempted to do so. On the other hand, hot chicks are undoubtedly why men are buying perfume. Though I much doubt it will work, for which reason men seldom buy perfume.

                  The third ad seems entirely relevant and informational. The wife is actually speaking for the company. She is in fact the ad spokesman: If you have kids, you will pretty soon need a bigger house with a garden. You could say it is emotional manipulation because they have the wife with small kids say it rather than the company spokesman say it voice over, but it is true and directly relevant to the actual usage of the product.

                  The third ad is straight up telling the male viewer in plain words that if he has a wife and small kids he will need their product, which he probably will, and should talk to their real estate agent to see what the real estate agent is offering. How is this some manipulative jedi mind trick?

                  I will grant you the perfume ad, because though directly relevant to intended product usage, they are probably lying. And because they are probably lying, perfume for men is an insignificant niche market.

                  But the first ad is telling a truth about social interaction using their product, which product is indeed generally used for social interaction, and the third ad is just straight up telling us in plain words that you will need this product for the usual reasons that the product is good for. No manipulative jedi mind tricks in any of them. All of them directly address actual and intended product use. (Albeit I doubt the usefulness of the perfume.)

                • linker says:

                  I think he would say that the perfume ad is informing you that you will smell good and get pussy. I don’t think it’s manipulative. If you don’t know anything about perfume it would be informing you at least that that one exists and that it is claimed that females like it. Then if you go to the perfume store and they have 500 different perfumes and you don’t know where to begin you can try out that one in particular.

                  It is definitely artistic and it evokes emotions, but it’s not deceiving you or giving you false information or limiting your free will. I wouldn’t call it manipulative. I have seen many movies, much more than the average person, movies evoke many emotions from the false characters and stories, but I am still a free thinker. I think if consuming movies had a strong deceptive effect then I would have become a communist zionist from watching so many hollyjew movies.

                • Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

                  Manipulative ads do exist; and where they exist, the payload is usually HIV positive.

                  https://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2013/05/dove.html

                • Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

                  ‘Advertisement’, broadly construed, is one of the most important means of information dissemination in a society. Indeed, one could say it is the grease that helps things go ’round.

                  So in order words, when AF, when people like AF, kvetch about ‘manipulative ads’, they are projecting their own sins.

                • simplyconnected says:

                  Finally got my first “nuts”.

                  The Ikea ad is not being manipulative. It is straight up front telling us not to get emotionally attached to their old furniture.

                  I also get attached to old furniture, specially inherited from family.
                  Yes, the ad tells you you are crazy for being attached to your furniture. But it first sets it up in an emotional way.

                  The ad is shot from the POV of the lamp, they are trying to make you feel the sadness that the lamp would feel from being discarded. Then, after making you empathize with the sad feelings
                  of the lamp, they tell you that you are crazy for feeling bad, just get rid of it and buy a new one.

                  They do say the words of the message they want to convey, but they first have to get you to feel bad for the lamp. Their attempt at emotional manipulation may or may not work, but it seems pretty clear they are trying to elicit an emotion in you to then ridicule it and get you to buy product.

                • simplyconnected says:

                  I think the point of the IKEA ad is
                  “next time you cling on to your old furniture, remember how ridiculous we made you feel last time when you were feeling bad about the lamp; so just go buy that new sofa”. It’s an emotional argument, stated in part explicitly, in part through clever cinematography.

                  Cannot agree more that the message of the ad is “wrong”. Old furniture is wonderful, and old furniture inherited from family connects us to our past.

                • alf says:

                  I always thought the axe deodorant commercials were the best at this – https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0GCQqD4T00. “Use our product and hot model chicks will throw themselves at you.”

                  Always thought ‘manipulative marketing’ is completely overrated. Incidentally it’s always leftists who obsess over this supposed evil, probably because projection. But in the free market, the consumer has the power, and manipulative marketing is lots of effort for little gain.

                • Contaminated NEET says:

                  >The third ad is straight up telling the male viewer in plain words that if he has a wife and small kids he will need their product, which he probably will, and should talk to their real estate agent to see what the real estate agent is offering. How is this some manipulative jedi mind trick?

                  The ad is not selling the product; it is modelling proper interactions between husband and wife for the viewer to emulate. Women: men are weak and indecisive creatures; you must dominate your husband to guide him. It’s for his own good and he will thank you for it. Men: you must submit to your wife’s proper and lawful authority over you. She’s stronger and smarter than you are, so go where she leads without too much fuss.

                • jim says:

                  Yes, it is promoting poz, rather than selling houses.

                  But, insofar as it is selling houses, it is being completely straight and above board.

                • Anonymous 2 says:

                  Today’s haram manipulative TV ad is the family with blonde mom and black dad, in a long lineup of similar ads. It’s getting absolutely ridiculous.

                • jim says:

                  Yes

                  The problem is not that they are manipulatively and untruthfully selling goods. Nearly all advertising is entirely truthful about the goods (though of course selective about which truths to present) and in no way manipulative about the goods.

                  The problem is that they are manipulatively and untruthfully selling poz

                  But the bigger problem not the ads, but the stories in which they are embedded. Perseus has not been able to rescue, then abduct, Andromeda for 196 years.

                • Pooch says:

                  13% of the US population. 85% of the people in commercials.

                • simplyconnected says:

                  My vague understanding was that people cannot distinguish TV from reality. Rationally they know it’s fiction, but they still get aroused with porn (even though there’s no woman there), and they get scared with horror movies (even though they rationally know it’s fake).

                  I recall some test showed watching sitcoms has a similar hormonal effect to meeting with your friends.

                  If your brains thinks that what you watch on TV is being witnessed, then TV ads, if well done, should be able to manipulate you to some extent.

                • The Cominator says:

                  “I recall some test showed watching sitcoms has a similar hormonal effect to meeting with your friends.”

                  Maybe when they used to make good ones but they don’t anymore (its Always Sunny is an exception but they haven’t made a new season in a while).

                • Aidan says:

                  Jim, I’m mostly agreeing with you.

                  I don’t watch much TV at all, but I distinctly remember a fairly recent commercial for beer that is just a few short scenes of attractive twentysomethings partying while holding that beer. Looks like people don’t upload recent ads to Youtube, so I can’t find it. Going to a party and hanging out with good looking people is a fun, high-status activity. The ad is not informational, but neither is it manipulative, let alone mind control magic or jedi mind tricks. The effect of associating a product with positive emotions and high status is measurably tiny, but because beer is a saturated market, that tiny edge you get makes a difference in profit. Not trying to reprogram your brain, trying to make a small emotional impact that makes a small difference when it’s time to choose a beer.

                  Advertising is only evil when it is marketing an evil product, like selling antidepressants to white women. When an advertisement has poz in it, it is pozzed because the marketing department is full of holy women who want to include holiness in their ads, and anyone who might object to the cucked husband or the interracial couple does not object because he is scared of getting called down to HR.

                • Contaminated NEET says:

                  >Yes, it is promoting poz, rather than selling houses.

                  >But, insofar as it is selling houses, it is being completely straight and above board.

                  There are thousands of ads like this, and it is mind control. White men are the doofuses of the world, fathers and husbands should never be respected, blacks are the kindest, wisest, smartest, and most responsible people on Earth, the wife is the natural head of the household… They show us these things again and again to implant them as norms, and it does work, if not quite as well as they would like.

                • simplyconnected says:

                  Aidan wrote:

                  recent commercial for beer that is just a few short scenes of attractive twentysomethings partying while holding that beer. Going to a party and hanging out with good looking people is a fun, high-status activity. The ad is not informational, but neither is it manipulative

                  Of course ads can’t reprogram you, but showing the product being used by popular people is telling your brain that popular people use this product in the same way that pictures of naked ladies is telling your brain to get ready for sex.

                  It can’t reprogram you, but it can make you witness of the fact that popular people use the product, even if on a rational level you think this doesn’t register with you. It’s not magic voodoo, but it has some effect, and it’s emotional or irrational.

                  The Cominator wrote:

                  Maybe when they used to make good ones but they don’t anymore

                  The study was somewhat old so the TV shows would be a couple of decades old.

                  Jim wrote

                  The problem is that they are manipulatively and untruthfully selling poz

                  Heartiste thinks (anecdotally) that there’s an uptick in white woman black man pairings. I find it hard to believe ads didn’t play a role.

                  Here’s another example from TV. At least since the Simpsons, perhaps earlier, they placed black doctors in shows. Is that not programming the progs to accept a black doctor as normal? They’ve seen it 1000 times on TV so it becomes normal to them, whereas before it would’ve set alarms off.
                  The power of TV seem to me simply that you “witness” what you see, even if you rationally know it’s fiction.

                • jim says:

                  Depicting a product that is used as a social lubricant being used as social lubricant is not manipulative or unfair, any more than depicting pizza delivery being used for a family meal is manipulative or unfair.

                  If you are selling a hammer, it is completely fair, relevant, and informative, to depict a nail going in true. If you are selling beer, it is completely fair, relevant, and informative, to depict males negotiating social connections more smoothly with the application of a bit of truth serum.

                  And worrying about ads being pozzed is a distraction from the big problem: That the shows carrying the ads are pozzed.

                • simplyconnected says:

                  Contaminated NEET wrote:

                  There are thousands of ads like this, and it is mind control. White men are the doofuses of the world…

                  I agree with Contaminated.
                  Not to belabor the point, but my father has seen “Mississippi burning” and “roots”, so he has actually witnessed the suffering of blacks. I can go on all day long about IQ differences or whatever, but it will only make him more enraged because I am attacking those people whose suffering he has witnessed.

                • jim says:

                  Yes, but “Mississipi burning” and “roots” are not ads.

                • simplyconnected says:

                  Depicting a product that is used as a social lubricant being used as social lubricant is not manipulative or unfair, any more than depicting pizza delivery being used for a family meal is manipulative or unfair.

                  It’s definitely not unfair. It’s not that successful at manipulation, but it does have some effect.
                  For instance, is the family in the pizza ad healthy and attractive-looking? Would the ad work as well if the family was ugly and fat? I posit it wouldn’t.

                • jim says:

                  > is the family in the pizza ad healthy and attractive-looking?

                  > Hence TV ads can make you witness a happy healthy family eating some particular brand pizza.

                  The pizza ad I had in mind had a fat patriarch, an attractive wife who was failing to perform her duties to her family (hence the need for pizza delivery) and teenage children who were absent (but happily brought together by the family meal that the patriarch ordered)

                  So the primary focus was on solving realistic family problems that pizza delivery actually could solve, rather than claiming that if you have pizza, you will be high status, get hot women into bed, and have no problems.

                  They presented an entirely realistic family with entirely realistic troubles. Could have had a handsome billionaire ordering pizza for two supermodels to be eaten on the bed of a luxury hotel room with a view of the harbor. They had a regular guy, with regular family issues, issues for which pizza delivery could actually help.

                  If you sell a hammer, going to show a nail going in. That is the selective presentation of relevant and true information. Fair enough.

                  Because his wife was busy working, rather than cooking, he was unable to fulfil his mealtime role as patriarch. Orders pizza, he now has the props to fulfil that role.

                  Will pizza make you a patriarch? No, definitely not. Making your wife cook will make you a patriarch. But I still order pizza once in a while, and, in the scenario chosen for the ad, not a bad solution. If you are selling a hammer, it is fair, relevant, and informative, to selectively depict a situation for which a hammer is needed, rather than a screwdriver.

                • simplyconnected says:

                  Yes, but “Mississipi burning” and “roots” are not ads.

                  haha.. yes, of course they are not.
                  I am only reiterating my point that what you see on TV you actually “witness” in some sense. That even if rationally you know it’s all fake, your response is “as if” you witnessed it (see physical reaction to porn or horror films, or even sitcoms).

                  Hence TV ads can make you witness a happy healthy family eating some particular brand pizza. If you witnessed an ugly fat unpleasant family eating the same brand pizza you may make a negative association. I posit that it’s the fact that you witness what you see that is the power of TV.

                • simplyconnected says:

                  They presented an entirely realistic family with entirely realistic troubles. Could have had a handsome billionaire ordering pizza for two supermodels.

                  The opulence, I has it ad is an example of that. But it’s so over the top that it breaks suspension of disbelief and becomes humorous instead.

                  The people making the pizza ad have the opportunity to make you witness a use-case for the pizza. You will perceive this use-case as if you were really there. So they’ll try to make it nice, fun and pleasant, plus they’ll insert some actionable information so you buy this specific product (this is simply necessary).

                  They may choose to make it realistic so it won’t be silly, but they will likely try to make it a good experience that makes you more likely to buy product. Being too over the top may break suspension of disbelief or turn it humorous. They won’t bore you with information, other than the one you need to buy product (you need some reference to the actual product to buy). You’ll be happy to witness the nice family eating the nice pizza. That’s more than good enough.

                  If the power to make you actually witness something that is “as if” real, why would they not use it to their advantage? As far as the ads I see, it seems to me that they do, and most of what is conveyed is not the small piece of actionable information which is of course always needed to refer the viewer to the specific product.

                • jim says:

                  > As far as the ads I see, it seems to me that they do, and most of what is conveyed is not the small piece of actionable information which is of course always needed to refer the viewer to the specific product.

                  You are not seeing what I am seeing, and your examples fail to support your claim.

                  For example, the Sam Adams ad is primarily telling people that if the boss offers you an alcoholic drink at a business lunch, it will help to get in good with the boss if you accept it.

                  Which is true, relevant, and informative.

                  Underlying every business lunch where alcohol is available is a implicit deal: “Tell me the real whole truth, and you will get in good with me”. And when some of the participants at the lunch don’t want alcohol, the boss is going to suspect that lunch is going to be a waste of time, and the guys that do not want alcohol are nervous because the real whole truth will hurt them.

                  You accuse the Sam Adams ad of arbitrarily and artificially associating knocking back your boss’s drink with being socially inept, but it really is socially inept. They are not lying about social reality the way every single depiction of men interacting with women and whites interacting with nams lies about social reality. The Sam Adams ad is giving people true and useful information about social reality.

                  If your boss offers you a drink, he wants you to accept it, and likely wants your tongue a little bit looser than it usually is. The dweebs in the ad were not arbitrarily and artificially represented as socially inept, turning down alcohol under those circumstances really is socially inept.

                  Yes, television can lie to people about social reality, and routinely does, to the immense harm of the viewers, primarily in lying to them about the nature of women, the nature of the mating dance, and females in the workplace.

                  But when you see an ad depicting the social reality of beer or pizza delivery, tells the truth, or as much of the truth as is in their interests. Which is apt to be quite a lot of significant, relevant, and informative truth. People buy beer and have pizza home delivered primarily for social reasons, and the ads accurately depict their product serving those social goals.

                  Advertising is not lying about products. No one is lying much about products. Your product is usually useful for something, so you depict it being useful for what it is in fact useful for. Rather, the entire medium in which the ads are embedded is lying about the social reality of women, nams, and sex.

                  If a hammer ad associated using a rock to hammer in nails with being an inept handyman, that would be useful information, not subtle jedi mind control.

                • jim says:

                  > The opulence, I has it ad is an example of that. But it’s so over the top that it breaks suspension of disbelief and becomes humorous instead.

                  It intended to break suspension of disbelief and become humorous – see the surrealistic two foot tall giraffe at the end. This is a shout out to the viewer “Hey, we are just kidding”

                • jim says:

                  > You’ll be happy to witness the nice family eating the nice pizza. That’s more than good enough.

                  No it was not anything remotely like good enough: They depicted a realistic patriarch with a realistic family with realistic social problems for which pizza delivery was in fact a relevant and helpful solution.

                  The Samuel Adams ad was relevant and useful information for the bewildered, socially inept, and frightened employee, and the pizza ad was relevant and useful information for the beleaguered patriarch.

                  If a hammer ad showed someone trying to hammer in nails with a rock, and then a guy with a hammer shows him how it is done, it would not artificial, arbitrary, and deceptive to show the hammer does its job.

                  If you have a product, it is bound to be good for something. You want people to buy it. So you depict it being used for what is good for. If you instead depict as good for getting one laid, you are competing with pua crowd and the fashion crowd, and you are picking a fight with a six hundred pound gorilla. If you depict it as good for making one high status, you are competing with a crowd of ferocious high status people.

                  Unless your product is a total scam, you always get better return on investment by presenting that truth which is in your favor. And if you look at ads, that is what they are primarily doing. The major payload is always relevant and true information that is useful for the target – though a useless irritation for everyone else.

                  (Again, excepting the Calvin Klein perfume ad, where the problem was that underlying product is unlikely to be very useful)

                • simplyconnected says:

                  Yes, the “Opulence, I has it” ad is funny on purpose.
                  You said that they could’ve used a billionaire ordering pizza for two models, but chose a regular family. I say of course they could, the billionaire and two models is the “Opulence” ad, which is intended to simply be funny.

                  You claim that ads don’t manipulate you, that they simply present a realistic use-case.

                  I claim that they present a realistic use-case, and that they manipulate you but only subtly and as long as it’s believable.
                  You may think that a believable ad cannot manipulate you. I claim that it can.

                  The critical difference between a text ad and a TV ad is that you “witness” the TV ad. The ad maker can effectively insert a piece of fiction into your model of reality, as long as it’s sufficiently believable.
                  You may think that the fact that it’s believable means there’s no manipulation, but they can nudge you in some desired direction using believable fiction.

                  For example, if the pizza brand were crap, you would rarely if ever see a real-life family eating that pizza.
                  But the ad makers can insert that piece of fiction into your model of reality. You’ve now seen several times a family eating that brand of pizza. This is now a part of your model of reality. It wasn’t there before.
                  The same way that they can insert a black doctor in every show and make people, over time, a bit more comfortable with having a black doctor in their next hospital visit: TV modified their model of reality by inserting some fiction. Everyone knows that they did that with gays in TV shows and movies in the 90s and 2000s, presenting them as high status. TV ads are shorter, but the medium is similar (you still witness what you see).

                • jim says:

                  > I claim that they present a realistic use-case, and that they manipulate you but only subtly and as long as it’s believable.

                  If hidden subtle manipulation, hidden persuaders, mattered and were effective, we would see them trying to show that their brand of microwave ovens is used by high status people and will result in romantic success. We don’t.

                  The subtle manipulations are rare, insignificant, and they have to fit into the primary objective, which is to present a realistic use case. When present, they take a back seat.

                  The vast bulk of advertising, what comes up when you google anything and click on the first link, is just straight information: Price and availability. Nothing there that could embed any hidden persuaders, any subtle manipulations.

                  When the ad tells a story, as with the beer ad and the pizza delivery ad, it is because the product is used socially, because the use case is social. Pizzas are designed to be shared.
                  Products that are not used socially, no social story in the ad. Try searching ads for a microwave oven.

                  When they tell a story, as with Sam Adams beer ad, the primary point of the story is always the primary use case of the product. As I said, any hidden persuaders take the back seat.

                  For you to have a hidden persuader case, for your evidence for hidden persuaders to actually be evidence, for evidence that advertising is effective through hidden persuaders your ad needs to be about not beer, but something that is not used for social purposes.

                • simplyconnected says:

                  Well, as we know, products that are used socially and those that are not, are fundamentally different because in the socially used products there’s status signaling.

                  I am no expert on this, but my claim simply comes from the fact that people, if they don’t think too much about it, can’t distinguish between reality and TV. Hence similar hormone effects from meeting with your friends or watching “Friends”. Or people being scared by movies or aroused by porn.

                  The fact that TV appears real to us doesn’t mean they can directly make you do things for them. Only that they can make a fictional event appear real to you. So you’ll see perfectly average clothes like Tommy Hilfiger worm by handsome people having fun and you’ll make an association as if you had seen it in the street. They can’t make you buy it, just present something advantageous to them that you perceive as if you had witnessed it.

                  Perhaps such trick works for signaling items like clothes but not for microwave ovens, what do I know. I imagine people don’t picture themselves signaling about their microwave oven, whereas status signaling with their clothes or car is a large factor in those purchases.

                • simplyconnected says:

                  By “trick” I mean basically “social proof”.

                • Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

                  Polo shirts worn by handsome models is normal. Nice things are nice, and good fashion is a public service.

                  Polo shirts worn by #BodyPositive gender-fluid blobs, on the other hand, that is what manipulation looks like.

                  To speak of ‘manipulative ads’ is to speak of manipulative information sources. Or perhaps more precisely said, manipulat*ed* ads, manipulat*ed* information sources.

                  Again and again you see this pattern: when priestly daemonhosts mouth complaint sounding noises about perversions of merchants, they are mouthing about perversions they themselves imposed upon them. When they harangue about depredations of corporate entities, they are haranguing about skin-suits they themselves are wearing.

    • Leon says:

      I wonder how many states will comply? Or if this is even remotely enforceable?

      • The Cominator says:

        Desantis in my state already signed an order against it.

        • Pooch says:

          Desantis is doing everything right and saying all
          the right things. I almost want Trump to just step aside and let Desantis become the new leader of the movement. The bitch in South Dakota cucked on trannies so she’s out.

          • The Cominator says:

            I don’t trust female politicians generally but Desantis cucked on lockdowns for a little and she never did… so nobody is perfect. Women’s sports being ruined by trannies is a hard redpill too..

            Neither can get elected without right wing militia violence anyway and Desantis is not the man to do that… and even under a normal election he does not have Trump’s charisma (he is better at organizational details though MUCH better).

          • jim says:

            Republicans are not going anywhere, till they adopt a leader from the Proud Boys. Old style politics is not going to work when Democrats have stopped playing by those rules.

            And if anyone is going to play by the new rules, it is not Desantis.

            After the Gracchi were nailed, populists got

            1. crushed.
            2. betrayed by their leadership
            3. sucked into the left wing holiness spiral.

            And went nowhere fast until Caesar accommodated to the rules.

            similarly, 1920s-1930s Germany.

            • The Cominator says:

              Yes Desantis is a good man but far too genteel.

              • Pooch says:

                He is on course for potential illegal federal government order nullification. Would would be interesting to me is if he threatens the use of lawful violence to enforce nullification.

            • Pooch says:

              Aside from Trump, He is the best we have at the moment. In the unlikely event that the Presidential election does matter in 2024 it is DeSantis or Trump. No one else is in the conversation.

              • jim says:

                Then, unless Trump finds his testicles, and is sufficiently flexible to adjust to the new realities, we are $#!% out of luck.

                You get less flexible with age, though intellectual exercise can slow this down quite a bit. For a rapidly changing reality, changing ever faster, we might have better prospects with a younger man – which is to say, Don Junior.

                Or, better still, someone from the Proud Boys. Nothing less is likely to work. We have been through this many times before, for Republics often take a surprisingly long time dying, and nothing less works during the dying breaths of a Republic.

                • The Cominator says:

                  The only real hope is what happened to the Muslim Brotherhood CIA installed government in Egypt happens to the dems…

                  Tens of millions in the DC streets and the military despite being pozzed oust them…

                • Pooch says:

                  we might have better prospects with a younger man – which is to say, Don Junior.

                  This is my thought as well. DeSantis is the same age as Don Jr and seems more alpha to me having demonstrated leadership in Florida already. Not close the orator of Trump, but he seems smart enough to understand that if he chooses to run in 2024 (with the blessing of the Trumps), he would only do so by abiding to the new rules for winning elections.

                • The Cominator says:

                  We need someone with a fundamentally violent nature… thats not Desantis.

                • Pooch says:

                  We need Caesar and DeSantis is not Caesar. We are likely many years and possibly decades from Caesar, but what we need now is someone to continue to build the momentum Trump started and there are not many options.

              • Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

                Who was Octavian before he became Augustus?

                Were were all the well known men before Octavian became Augustus, after Octavian became Augustus?

                When the lake dries out, all the fish with with optimally adapted gills stuck on the sandbars die out.

                • jim says:

                  The Republican party is going to disappear, though its letterhead and official headquarters and mailing lists may live on under Democratic Party management.

                  If the Republic is merely dying and not entirely dead, something will replace it. Possibly Julius Caesar if we are lucky.

            • Leon says:

              There is a theory that the Proud Boys are either a fed creation or heavily infiltrated by the feds. I think, but do not remember for certain, it was Andrew Anglin who posted that theory.

              • jim says:

                They are heavily infiltrated by feds.

                Not a fed operation, might well become a fed operation if they don’t do something about it. Maybe they have already become a fed operation and I have not noticed, but I am inspired by what happened to the Free Software Foundation.

                People are realizing the scope and aggressiveness of enemy entryism operations, and are starting to do something about it.

      • Pooch says:

        Vaccine passports are definitely coming.

        • European Mutt says:

          Anyone else wondering if they are not a poisoned apple, possibly an element in a deep state autocoup attempt? All the time the holiest have been saying you should still wear a mask and “social distance” when vaccinated because you can still spread the virus supposedly. And now you are supposed to be safe with a passport? That is an obvious incongruity that someone will exploit. It looks like there are sections of the deep state that want to go back to “normal” (the virus hysteria served its purpose, Trump’s gone), where the vaccine passport would be the perfect excuse. The Orwellian aspects are a feature, not a bug there, and really the whole security theater at airports is already as bad as these passports.

          All the more radical members of the deep state would have to do is wait for the old-type “authoritarian” leftists and their puppets to implement the scheme and then after a few months observe or just manufacture ‘rising case numbers’ or ‘overwhelmed ICUs’ or ‘dangerous new mutations’ (if the claims about the vaccines are true, they won’t reduce total PCR positive results much at all) and create a media smear campaign about establishment politicians and old, white, male deep-staters who created ‘a false sense of security’ and ‘caved to the tourism/wahtever industry’ with the vax passports.

          • jim says:

            I don’t think anyone is planning anything. Rather, what is happening is the spontaneous and unforeseen consequences of holiness spiraling.

  2. Noname says:

    Friendly reminder the Chauvan witch trials are underway and could end anytime.

    After he is found innocent we will all be flooded with vibrancy and multiculturalism in every major city.

    So, keep your head on the swivel.

    • Contaminated NEET says:

      >found innocent

      Not gonna happen. The judge, the jury, and the attorneys on both sides know the score. Not guilty is not an option.

      • Aidan says:

        There is no conceivable legal way that Chauvin is convicted. He will be found guilty, because legality does not matter very much, but the defense has an endless appeals process, especially against the jury selection, because who has not been prejudiced by the media about the case?

        • Contaminated NEET says:

          >because legality does not matter very much

          If legality doesn’t matter very much in convicting him, then why will it matter on appeal?

          Chauvin is never getting out of prison. There’s a better chance he’ll be murdered by a fellow inmate who mysteriously got access to him than that they’ll ever let him walk free. Even if he doesn’t wind up dead like Dahmer, no judge is going to overturn his conviction.

          • The Cominator says:

            They may want him acquitted as an excuse to holiness spiral about racism more. Also the prog state needs its enforcer class.

            We should not care too much about the cathedral’s mindless enforcers. We should care about Rittenhouse NOT Chauvin.

            • Contaminated NEET says:

              >We should not care too much about the cathedral’s mindless enforcers. We should care about Rittenhouse NOT Chauvin.

              Amen to that.

  3. Pooch says:

    Some signs of life at the military…

    “Diversity chief at US Special Operations Command reassigned during probe into social media posts”

    https://thehill.com/policy/defense/545515-diversity-chief-at-us-special-operations-command-reassigned-during-probe-into

    • Big Brutha says:

      Just signs of CYA. They’ll get someone else in there with the same agenda but less baggage to carry out the same tasks. They cannot afford to let the military exist without these kinds of political commissars.

  4. Pooch says:

    Jim, what’s the red-pilled way to propose marriage to my girlfriend? I don’t think I’m getting good advice on this from my family.

    • Karl says:

      Make her pregnant

    • jim says:

      I took her outside (she knew something was up), set the phone video running, and said “Before God and Man, I swear I will keep you forever and never let you go”, and then put the engagement ring on her finger.

      All the chicks thought that was incredibly romantic.

      • Pooch says:

        Very good. How expensive should the engagement ring be?

        • jim says:

          I don’t know. Have not done a lot of getting engaged.

          On the one hand, needs to be at least a little bit expensive to show you are serious, on the other hand, not like you are trying to prove you are serious.

        • Starman says:

          @Pooch

          How much does the Taliban spend on engagement rings?

          • Pooch says:

            Haha good point.

          • Ace says:

            Taliban probably did give their brides gifts before marrying them. Presenting something of value is a very old human custom mostly to prove a man’s status, the women’s status not withstanding. Though I don’t think you need to spend a lot on it.

            Jim described it with the story of women lined up for men to select brides in Australia. When the men selected a women they presented her with gift. If she accepted, she was his. If she refused all suiters she ended up a low status concubine with nothing.

            • Ace says:

              As an example of this, I once read a story about a women captured by an Indian war band during a initial colony setup in North America. Her husband was scalped and killed. She claimed they didn’t rape her, but it’s more likely she was gang raped by the whole group. After which she put in with the squaws until it was clear she wasn’t pregnant. After that period of time passed the unmarried men started offering her gifts like a big fish they caught or a pelt from a deer they’d killed, all placed at her feet. She was told if she accepted the gift they would be wed. She was also told if she didn’t accept a gift soon she would be forcibly given to one of the men.

              Around which time the village was raided by the English and she was brought back to the colony.

    • Javier says:

      I told my gf we were going to have kids and I wasn’t raising bastards.

  5. chris says:

    What do you think about the SEC suing LBRY jim?

    https://www.sec.gov/litigation/litreleases/2021/lr25060.htm

    • jim says:

      Unsurprised.

      The pressure on crypto currency has been rising for some time, and will go on rising.

      The survivors will be what is most resistant to regulation.

      At some point in the not very distant future, the government will seize or attempt to seize, or failing that block, every website enabling people to do business in unregulated crypto currency. I hope to have something ready before that happens.

  6. The Ducking Man says:

    I need people in this forum to check if I’m sufficiently red pilled or I show signs of weakness.

    A little background, me and my wife both working with me being in top management and making 5x of my wife’s salary. My wife doesn’t even pay for anything, she gave 90% of her salary to her parents.

    After having our first son born I admit that I’m not involved in nursing our son. I feed our baby, change his diaper, or prepping the necessities now and then when my wife is away, but most of the time I’m resting while my wife is doing most of the nursing.

    I got satire comments because I’m often half-asleep attending my son or having full night sleep. My only reply was “I’m doing the best I can”.

    I honestly don’t know if my wife is actually showing dissatisfaction with our marriage or just shit testing.

    I think that I’m doing good deed with at least trying to be involved with caring my infant son because my father was very absent when my younger siblings were born.

    • jim says:

      With my late wife, my arrangement was that I did the fun stuff with the babies, like him going to sleep on my chest, and she did all the stuff like changing their nappies. I have promised to do the same with my current wife, and also told her that taking care of a baby is really tough, and she will cry. I can tell that she likes this, likes that her husband was not a househusband and has no intention of becoming a househusband.

      So yes, your wife is shit testing you, and you are failing. My children did not interfere with my sleep, except when I felt like it. (Which I often did, but this was my option, not my wife’s option.)

      When my wife had to be away, my sisters came over on the well founded assumption that I could not or would not care for a baby. (Also, they liked babies)

    • Karl says:

      I also think that your wife is shit testing. If I were you, I’d tell her to stop working so that she has time to care for the baby and the siblings to be born.

      • jim says:

        Yes.

        If she has babies, and her income is not the major part of the household income, should not be working. Tell her to stop it.

        She has forty years for a career. Very little time for babies. Should focus on what is urgent and important, and ignore what is not urgent and not important.

        Women have the most important job in the world. Everything else is what they do in their spare time.

        • Mike in Boston says:

          If she has babies, and her income is not the major part of the household income, should not be working.

          Hell, when I got married my wife was making very nearly as much as me, but when she got pregnant, the very first words of my father (who internalized the traditional ways many decades ago) were “You’re going to have her stop working, right?” I did and I think that eliminated one whole class of shit tests, not that there weren’t others.

          Of course, the old ways work in both directions: my father kicked in a good chunk of change so we could move out of the apartment into a house.

      • The Ducking Man says:

        I also would like my wife to stop working, but she refused because her parents are retiree without income.

        Perhaps later on when financially I’m more secure.

        • Anonymous 2 says:

          Assuming it’s not an excuse, her parents might prefer more grandchildren over a bit of extra income. Many grandparents do, after all.

        • Karl says:

          “Security, security, mortals chiefst enemy” (Shakespear, if I rember correctly)

          When you are financially secure, it will be too late for a large family (at least with your present wife).

          Her refusal is probably also a shit test.

          Anyway, if your income is not sufficient to sustain both your family and her parents so that she really has to be working, there is no reason at all for you work in your home. Then the grandparents can do all the work and baby care for which your wife is lacking the time.

        • jim says:

          Who is in charge in your household/

          And why are not the maternal grandparents helping with the kids?

          • The Ducking Man says:

            For 1 year after marriage we live completely alone, no relative, no parent. We live in isolated plantation after all. Parents are on different islands.

            On 12th month of marriage (november 2020) my wife was on 8th month pregnancy I told my wife’s parents to come over. They helped out to look out on our son when we are working, and do the housekeeping. Nothing else because they also have chronic illnesses.

            As for the one being in charge, before marriage we agreed to not fiddle anything we posses before marriage. I have 2 years mortgage and she has the job which she has kept for 7 years before I even met her.

            I don’t like destroying sentimental value because she has kept the current job 7+ years straight out school (she didn’t attend college) and lots of her friends are in workplace.

            • jim says:

              Her social life is an important consideration – trouble is that women tend to treat the workplace as their family.

              You and her children need to be her family.

              My mother in law has serious illnesses. Pretty early in our relationship, my wife expressed concerns about her mother. To which I replied: “Who are you going to look after, me or your mother?”. To which she replied “You of course.”

              You don’t want your wife to be socially isolated. On the other hand, neither do you want her hanging out with bad women. You need to keep an eye on whom she hangs out with, and where they are hanging out. Women are terribly susceptible to peer pressure and environmental influences. If she is hanging out with a group of women, at least one of the women in the group is apt to be keen on hanging out where the group of women might well be approached by a group of men with the alpha male of the group being someone more alpha than the men they are currently with.

    • alf says:

      I have also received a fair deal of criticism, especially during the first few weeks. I think that when a woman becomes a mother she realizes that her previous life is gone — her life now revolves around this kid, maybe more. Thats quite an adjustment, especially considering the false life paths women are sold these days.

      So naturally she shit-tests. But she’ll also give valid criticisms – not like I knew what I was doing, lol. Figuring out what is a shit test and what is valid criticism is the trick, imo.

      • Arakawa says:

        Distinction is not enough because there is also ‘valid criticism delivered as a shit test’.

        • jim says:

          When I get valid criticism delivered as a shit test, I say “you are right. Now shut up and don’t speak to me till I tell you that you can”.

        • alf says:

          What Jim says, in a slightly less badass manner. When she’s made her point but drones on, I tell her exactly that. When she still continues, I tell her to shut up.

          But I mean, I don’t want to come off tougher than I am. My experience has been that modern life poses a lot of challenges for raising kids, not just for the father, also for the mother, and it takes trial and error figuring it all out.

    • Atavistic Morality says:

      I don’t know anything about marriage, never been married and though women seem to love me, I love them a lot less, I haven’t accepted a relationship for longer than 6 months. I’m a bit antisocial like that, life circumstances.

      So my observation isn’t about your marriage but yourself, you sound scared and indecisive and leaders can’t lead when they are scared and indecisive. You’re supposed to lead and you can’t, she probably smells your fear and makes her restless and even more scared than you are, so nothing is going as you’d like.

      If some thief came barging in into my house and I had to obliterate his skull against the floor I wouldn’t criticize a woman for getting hysterical and not helping with it. I don’t think it’s a male’s job to care for babies, not observable in practically any species, not observable in hunter-gatherer societies, not observable in ancient societies, not observable in any successful society, not an observable instinct in myself, thus I assume not really in any other man, not your job. It’s her job, women love babies, she has nothing to complain about and she should be happy if she gets any help, you’re providing for her after all, you’re doing your job. If she has an issue with the fact that she is working while taking care of the baby then maybe she should shut the fuck up and go do her real biological job and stop wasting her precious time being some wage cuck for another man no less.

      You claim to be top management, but the problem seems to be your lack of leadership skills. When your subordinates get out of line you put them back in, they appreciate it when you do, they don’t appreciate it when you don’t and they expect you to coordinate and run the show so they can do their own work. Same thing applies to your wife. Imagine one subordinate failed at doing their job and you were covering for them and gave you shit for it, that’s literally what you let your wife do to you, she sure has a good reason to be dissatisfied with your leadership.

      I always find it amusing to hear from other men the problems they allegedly have with women, it seems to be that the biggest problem men today have with women is expecting them to be men and then be surprised when they are not, coupled with the unwillingness to be men themselves. You either lead or you don’t, you either are a man or you’re not, you either want to be with a woman or you don’t. You don’t get to claim leadership and shy away from taking decisions, you don’t get to enjoy only the good things about being a man and you don’t get to be with a woman and expect her to play half your role, her own role and everything else that makes you comfortable at her expense.

      Hopefully you didn’t take offense to anything I said, if you did it was not my intention, nor am I trying to be callous. Everyone has things they are better and worse at, this happens to be something I’m good with, which is why instead of being trapped in relationships with fucked up mechanics I simply don’t have them for long, because I’m unwilling to and I simply choose no. But you’ve chosen yes, so you should fully commit to your own decision.

      • jim says:

        > I always find it amusing to hear from other men the problems they allegedly have with women, it seems to be that the biggest problem men today have with women is expecting them to be men and then be surprised when they are not.

        Exactly so.

        Women are different.

        Very different.

        If you look at the landscapes we create everywhere, it is apparent that we long for our ancestral savanna, the lightly treed environment we entered when we came down from the trees and stood off the lions. And women long for their ancestral environment of successful reproduction. Women reproduce most successfully as property, men least successfully as property, and their behavior makes no sense unless you understand this.

        As I have so often said: If a man is defeated, conquered and subdued, perhaps because his tribe and country is conquered and subdued, he is unlikely to reproduce. If a woman is defeated, conquered and subdued, she has escaped from defect/defect equilibrium, escaped from prisoner’s dilemma, and also been transferred from weak men and a weak tribe to strong men and a strong tribe, and is therefore likely to be highly successful at reproducing.

        Women are always shit testing you. That is why they are so disruptive and destructive in the work place. But they are not really playing to win. They are playing to be subdued by a strong man.

        The shit test that the Ducking Man is failing is the most ancient of them all: “Are you man enough to take me from my Dad”

        • Dave says:

          Futhermore, when a man is defeated, conquered, and subdued, his testosterone levels go way down, and this may entirely explain why men today are so low-T. A slave’s best survival stategy is to stay alive and out of trouble, and hope that his oppressors eventually give him a wife, or kill themselves off, as high-T men tend to fight a lot.

      • The Ducking Man says:

        “Hopefully you didn’t take offense to anything I said”

        No offense taken.

        At work people consider me top management because I’m a director’s right hand man and the owner hired me personally.

        When I post the comment, I didn’t know how male supposed to behave when there is a baby around, partly because the media likes to portray caring husband who knows how to take care a baby.

        Now I know my error and decided to take step back in the nursing business. Now I feel less guilt seeing my wife do the heavy lifting and only see my baby when he seems ok or for some reason only calm when I hold him.

  7. linker says:

    We urgently need a post on the little girl pill. Alt right is 95% blue pilled on this issue. The leader of the alt right, nick fuentes is red pilled on this issue, but he can’t be totally straightforward about it. Like you said, the woman pill is the key to all of the other red pills. On a fractal level the age of consent pill is the key to the woman pill.

    “Pedophilia” is a holiness spiral that is leading to complete sexual anarcho tyranny where it is illegal for a white man to bang or marry any woman under the age of 30. It is currently illegal for men to bang about half of women that they would like to bang, and then to compete for the older half they have to have a holiness competition about how monstrous it would be to pursue the younger half.

    https://odysee.com/@Three_Spoons:c/The-System-comes-down-on-Gaetz:9

    • jim says:

      The incident you are linking to is just the usual – the use of state power to remove uncooperative Republicans.

      But you are not linking to blue pilled right wingers.

      It is not apparent to me that the alt right is blue pilled. (The shills are, of course, blue pilled.) In the video you link to Nick Fuentes fails to ridicule the charges, but, given that he depicting events as a plot against a rising Republican star, rather than “Oh the horror, a young man hung out with a girl who may have been seventeen”, ridiculing the charges was kind off topic.

      If I see blue pilling on the alt right, I am going to push back, and post an article. But the video you link to does not make me feel like pushing back.

      Maybe there is blue pilling (the Qanons and pizzagaters were all “pedophilia”) and I have perhaps not been paying attention. If the alt right is 95% blue pilled on little girls, then indeed it is time for pushback.

      • linker says:

        I was actually trying to praise Nick for not cucking on this. He makes me very optimistic as he has an astonishing combination of charisma and intelligence and doesn’t really cuck about any major issue. He also has thousands of loyal followers and is moving the needle politically. I could make a case that the RINO senate candidates in Georgia lost by such a small margin that it was because of Nick.

        Maybe 95% was an exaggeration. I think it’s between 50 and 95.

        • jim says:

          Point me to some influential people who need pushback.

          • linker says:

            Vox Day, Owen Benjamin, and Cernovich are always kvetching about pedos, Epstein, Weinstein, etc. Probably Roosh. He has been going around saying that Game is Sinful, sex and lust are Sinful, etc.

            Some recent examples:
            https://voxday.blogspot.com/2021/03/birds-of-feather.html
            Epstein, Weinstein, etc. bad.

            https://voxday.blogspot.com/2021/03/dont-defend-devils-own.html
            This one is spooky. Vox is basically doing a struggle session on his own readers saying that #MeToo *hasn’t gone far enough* and if his own readers don’t Always Believe Women then it’s because they are Gamma Male Creeps and they are ashamed of something “creepy” they have done in the past that hurt an innocent woman.

            Vox is a very advanced verbal abuser. He’s basically taking the low status men that follow him and repackaging their fear of being labelled a sexual harasser by society as paralyzing guilt to castrate them and make them view Vox as the Supreme Sigma Male, the only man who is allowed to have sex, because girls just throw themselves at him and he has no need to “sexually harass” or “rape” them, unlike you creepy filthy gamma worm.

            Not exactly pedo stuff, but in the same vein.

            • The Cominator says:

              Yes that is one of the worst teddy spaghetti pieces I’ve ever seen. He’s saying good men won’t be taken down by a feminist purity spiral… well he won’t because he lives in Italy and even commie Italians tend to be redpilled on women.

              He needs pushback on that.

              • linker says:

                The worst Vox Day piece that I have seen was when he failed some basic math thing like multiplying two numbers to try to say it is impossible for a human to be near 2 mass shootings therefor they are a crisis actor, one of his Dark Legion politely corrected the basic math, showing it was indeed possible, and likely that some human in the world was near 2 mass shootings, then Vox made multiple FURIOUS blog posts tripling down about how that guy was a traitorous gamma retard who couldn’t do basic math instead of just admitting he was wrong. He claims 160 IQ btw.

                https://voxday.blogspot.com/2019/08/math-is-hard-barbie.html

                I still read him from time to time, but due to stuff like this he has cultivated an army of extremely stupid people. Nick has cultivated an army of moderately smart people that is also 10x-100x as big.

                • Pooch says:

                  Yeah the election Q-tard shit was sorta the last straw for me with Vox. He’s still useful and has good insight about current events from time to time but anyone that needs to brag about their IQ really isn’t as smart as they think.

                • Ace says:

                  I stopped taking Vox seriously after I realized that Vox was the secret king Gamma he was always upset about. The Q stuff was just bizzaro land.

                  I was reading Conservative Treehouse when Sundance invented the original “Trust the Plan” stuff when Mueller was appointed. He kept saying that Mueller was somehow Trump’s guy. He got massive push back from his followers and he quickly gave up the idea. Vox just kept doubling down straight into Q hell.

                  But lets be honest here, we all got it very wrong about Trump as well. Bar was their guy, not ours. Same with Trump’s supreme court picks, etc. There was plenty insanely wishful thinking going on. Irrational optimism is useful, but it’s not a great way to predict the future.

                • The Cominator says:

                  I was not especially wild about any of the SCOTUS picks (McConnell choose them anyway) but Barr had me fooled until VERY late I guess because he made a good 1st impression.

                  Yes Vox uses gamma to describe the worst aspects of his own personality.

                  Trump unfortunately was not nearly paranoid enough…

                • Pooch says:

                  Yes I was definitely guilty of irrational optimism. We’ll have to be diligent in the future (especially in meat space). This time 100s ended up in the jail. The next time may end up with 1000s of corpses.

                • Ace says:

                  This time 100s ended up in the jail. The next time may end up with 1000s of corpses.

                  The thousands and more likely millions of corpses is coming no matter what. The holiness spiral isn’t slowing down.

                  The mistake at the Capitol was purely Trump’s fault. He walked right into a trap and didn’t even have his guys on the group to stop the obvious Dem tactic of turning a protest into a riot.

                  The fact that there was so little damage despite FBI guys and leftists instigators trying to encourage mass damage and lethal violence actually helped reduce the blow back. The capital riots was a really poor version of the Reichstag fire the Dems had hoped it would be. Good solid Trump supporters are responsible for limiting the damage.

                  My point was don’t judge Vox to harshly but learn from his mistakes. He fucked up by always doubling down even when reality was very much the other direction. I think the lesson from Vox is doubling down on what’s clearly sunk costs can drive you insane.

                • Pooch says:

                  Yes agreed.

                • Anonymous 2 says:

                  The interesting part about QAnon was that it provided a quite popular rallying point outside the establishment. Presumably this was the reason why it was so comprehensively banned. Never mind the hodgepodge of beliefs, etc.

                  I’m not sure what to make of the project as such — perhaps enemy propaganda that escaped its original purpose.

                  Faust: Well, what are you then?

                  Mephistopheles: Part of the Power that would
                  Always wish Evil, and always works the Good.

                • The Cominator says:

                  Q was and is enemy propaganda and it NEVER escaped its original purpose.

                  One of Trump’s mistakes is it should have been denounced early as enemy propaganda especially when it said trust Sessions.

                • alf says:

                  Vox has a fairly long history of talking out of his ass and pretending to be smarter than he is. Doesn’t make him a bad person.

                  I do think that the usual pattern is that in time, guys like Vox lose their initial credibility, because most followers draw the same conclusions. Guys like Vox tend to react badly to this development. His doubling down is just an attempt to stay relevant.

                • Anonymous 2 says:

                  Not quite; at least we got to see the enemy made ridiculous.

                • Anonymous 2 says:

                  By the way, for those who disdain rashly storming the Winter Palace or similar silliness in favour of more measured activities, I would sincerely recommend becoming worthy a la Yarvin. What this in essence means is quietly building your bank account and social power, while making yourself resilient to shocks.

                • Awoke says:

                  That VoxDay thread on conditional probability is incredible. Have zero respect for him after reading that. The initial mistake was bad enough (considering the extraordinary claim he was trying to support), but to then double down talking about intellectual superiority and 160 IQ while still failing to grasp what he’d missed, and then to eventually try to wriggle out of it with no admission of error, is disturbing. Or he still has unshakeable belief in his correctness, which is more disturbing. Nothing he writes can be taken in good faith now. A cautionary tale on why you should just admit when you make a mistake.

            • Pooch says:

              Vox Day has always been purple pilled on women.

              • The Cominator says:

                This is not purple pilled its not even normie bluepilled it might as well have come from an Ivy League women’s study department.

                “Hellmouth” people only go down for their sexual misconduct if a strong enough faction gives the ok. And most (and I mean like 95+%) of the real bad stuff is done by gays.

            • Leon says:

              Vox is a gamma, a priest. Such men always have misgivings towards male sexuality and nature.

              • Mike in Boston says:

                Vox is a gamma

                Vox’s “gamma”, “sigma”, “omega” are not useful archetypes. They don’t carve nature at the joints.
                There is a reason no one came up with them before Vox.

                Vox is occasionally good but too often a useful idiot for the enemy. I’d be happy to see his dumb-shit taxonomy of “gamma”, etc. disappear entirely.

                • The Cominator says:

                  Omega males are a real category of smv and hierarchical position. Gammas are not.

                  Sigmas may exist but they are probably basically loner psychopaths.

                • Mountain Farmer says:

                  Jim, what is your opinion of Vox’s intense hatred of Boomers?

                  Vox believes that all of the problems of the United States are the Boomers fault…that they took a good country and ruined. That everyone born after the Boomers are just victims.

                • jim says:

                  Hey, I blame it all on the Victorians.

                  Things have been going downhill for quite a while, and they have been going downhill faster and faster. We are losing social technology, and starting to lose advanced physical technologies.

                • linker says:

                  “Omega males are a real category of smv and hierarchical position. Gammas are not.

                  Sigmas may exist but they are probably basically loner psychopaths.”

                  I think gammas are very real and Vox’s description of them is accurate, although not all fit cleanly into that category. I am a gamma, Vox has many gamma traits. I don’t think it’s super clear cut. Lots of intellectual-type men have many gamma traits but are not as bad as his stereotype. Many men are exactly like his stereotype though. It’s true that women are repulsed by gammas. Do I agree with Vox that men who repulse women deserve to be thrown in prison? No.

                  Sigams are just a cope for Gammas/Omegas to think they are cool. Vox claims that women have insatiable lust for Sigmas. This is the opposite of the truth. Women typically have zero attraction to men with zero social status. As Aidan says, intelligent women are very attracted to intelligent masculine men (because they are extremely rare and because unintelligent women are too stupid to recognize them), so maybe that is where Vox got that idea. Being a loner does not help with women though.

                • The Cominator says:

                  When I think of even a fictitious sigma I think of a Clint Eastwood character in a spaghetti western.

                  Have such characters existed in reality… probably but they ain’t Teddy Spaghetti.

                • Aidan says:

                  It is not as if I will ever use these terms, but to make them useful, define them like this:

                  A gamma is a man whose smv is extremely variable. Almost always a nerd with one specific skill, who is perceived as alpha when performing it and acts like an omega when he is not. There is a type of man like this, who will get female interest and then blow it when he is offstage, who will rack up accusations of being “creepy” if not outright FRAs.

                  A sigma is a man who is relatively more successful at convincing others that he is alpha even when he is not capturing the attention of other men and women. Almost all “dating” or pickup is playing sigma, and most men are not very good at it.

                  These are not character archetypes, they are quirks of the human mating dynamic. Vox makes these edge cases into character archetypes because of his own insecurities.

                • jim says:

                  Good and useful definitions.

                  But the trouble is these terms are owned by Vox, who gives them meanings that are disconnected from empirical reality. If we discuss such matters, need to coin our own words for them

                  Convincing women you are alpha when you are not getting the attention of men and women is tough. Most men do not succeed at it because it is tough, not because they are not good at it.

                  But to the extent that one carries it off, it is primarily by convincing women that you are a bad guy – preferably a bad guy backed by another unseen higher alpha, that you can, and regularly do, break the rules, that you can and will engage in acts of violence.

                • Encelad says:

                  I read Vox’s SSH. May be I missing something, but to me “gamma” seems just an overly complicated way to say “loser”. (And “omega”, “bigger loser”).

                • The Cominator says:

                  Omega is a social sexual hierarchy loser.

                  Gamma is a bunch of traits that fit all the negative aspects of Vox’s own personality, they do not correspond to any hierarchy position. Most gamma traits are omega traits but some are beta traits (Vox is actually a Beta who was driven + his family had money).

                  Sigma is a movie level badass loner and such types I think exist… but Teddy Spaghetti ain’t one of them. Think James Bond and Clint Eastwood as the Man with no Name.

          • simplyconnected says:

            Point me to some influential people who need pushback.

            Blackpilled for instance, has a comfy livestream where he talked about this yesterday, said if you don’t care about Gaetz banging a 17yo you have no morals.
            https://www.bitchute.com/video/Vbad0PhyHYYJ/
            Starts at the 1h 45min mark.

        • The Cominator says:

          The Georgia runoffs were lost because of massive industrialized fraud. The midget had nothing to do with it.

          • Pooch says:

            Perdue/Loeffler were god awful candidates but they still would have won without the fraud. Nobody in Georgia is voting for a jew and a crazy black.

            • The Cominator says:

              Well Atlanta might as well be on a different planet then the rest of the South. Sherman did a good thing for the whole nation including the South by burning it but he should have salted the earth.

              But the reason you know it was fraud, you don’t win Florida by 3% and lose Georgia. Atlanta did not double in size in four years.

              • Pooch says:

                Speaking of Georgia, the Cathedral is really shrieking about the voting laws they passed. I don’t even think they got signature matching in but I suppose it means their power is not secure there.

        • Aidan says:

          As much as people like Fuentes, I cant stand listening to his voice. Real men dont talk or move like that- goes double for Vox. I suspect bugger, and thus he is solid on the WQ- fags dont really like women very much. Of course, many gen Z men who are supposedly straight come off as very gay to me, so I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt. If so, he needs to put down the soy milk and hit the weight room.

          • Pooch says:

            He’s a 22 year old gamer nerd but he’s no bugger. He says more anti-gay stuff using his real identity in meat space than you’ll ever say with your real identity, or anyone on the right for that matter. Kid’s got balls of stone in my book.

    • Pooch says:

      Fuentes is not the leader of the Alt-Right. The Alt-Right died in Charlottesville. Fuentes is the leader of his political advocacy group/movement, America First, and he’s about the most right-wing person showing his face currently. Almost everything he says with a few exceptions (like no sex before marriage), line up fairly close to Jim. His success is encouraging.

      • linker says:

        I agree. I meant alt right in the literal definition, not as in Richard Spencer’s clique.

        I think it’s worth mentioning that because Nick superficially resembles a mainstream republican, people think he is cucked or alt-lite, but he is actually less cucked than Richard Spencer. He is more red pilled about women, he isn’t a socialist, he knows covid is a hoax. Richard Spencer and his acolytes unironically think X00000 people or whatever the CDC says died from Covid and we need harsher restrictions. He is parroting every single democrat take, either because he is a contrarian and a retard or because he thinks it will protect him from lawsuits. Also he claims to be a Nietzschean, but locking everyone in bug boxes and covering their faces over X00000 people dying, even if that many died, is the position of The Last Man. Nietzsche would want to infect as many people as possible with corona to get rid of the fatties and genetic waste.

        • Pooch says:

          Spencer is fed.

        • Aidan says:

          Spencer is probably a fed, and a bad actor beyond a shadow of a doubt. If he is not on USG’s payroll, he is on the payroll of Soros, with the purpose of doxxing people on the right.

  8. restitutor_orbis says:

    Elon is the Star Prophet but Jim is a prophet-prophet. Everything is proceeding as he has foreseen. Somehow a federal observer wasn’t available for SpaceX’s latest launch.

    “As part of the agreement reached by SpaceX and the Federal Aviation Administration—which provides permitting for commercial launches—a federal observer must be on-site for test flights of the Starship vehicle.

    For some reason, perhaps a weather-related travel delay or perhaps something else, an inspector was not available for Monday’s launch attempt. “FAA inspector unable to reach Starbase in time for launch today. Postponed to no earlier than tomorrow,” SpaceX founder Elon Musk tweeted on Monday.”

    • Starman says:

      @restitutor_orbis

      And the FAA immediately went into CYA mode when Kaliph Elon pronounced them “Sons of the Devil” on Twitter.

      The test was conducted the next day.
      https://youtu.be/cN7855POvJ8
      https://youtu.be/gjCSJIAKEPM

      Will Elon’s enemies eventually catch up to him before he launches and lands Starship from orbit successfully multiple times, maybe. But Elon is fast and his enemies are slow (their paradigm on aerospace is that tests take several months and years in aerospace, doing tests every two weeks is outside their box). And China and Russia are watching.

      • jim says:

        Biden has already put the plan to put a human occupied base on the moon on indefinite hold, probably because it is rapidly becoming apparent that Musk is the only contractor who could actually deliver.

        But I expect space to be funded by the internet in space, and by asteroid mining for platinum and gold – mostly platinum.

        • Starman says:

          @Jim

          Biden’s handlers still think of aerospace testing in terms of old aerospace (the Saturn V S1-C first stage took roughly seven to nine months to build the tanks and 14 months to complete a stage. StarProphet Elon builds and tests Saturn V class stages every few weeks). Those who want “Mankind to be confined to Earth” are still in the SLS/SaturnV frame of mind when they are planning their diabolical plans, this while Elon issues papal bulls against those who oppose “making Mankind Multiplanetary.”

          Meanwhile China has plans for its own Moon base, which might change if Elon Musk successfully proves the fully reusable 100 passenger Starship. After that, the fate of USG matters not anymore.

          • suones says:

            Tangentially to the link posted regarding the reprisal at Thessalonica (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massacre_of_Thessalonica):

            The Roman magister arrested a popular chariot racer (arch-sportsman) for flagrant sodomy, and got lynched by the population for it. The Emperor, coming to know about it, ordered a reprisal on the Philosodom population. The gay Church took severe exception to this, esp “St.” Ambrose, and denied communion to the Emperor until Christmas. This is only 390 AD. The Church of Sodom has been at it from the beginning. Maybe the Emperor should have responded by reprisals against St Ambrose and his lunatic philosodom followers. But that was impossible for he himself had accepted the gay communion.

            Oh, and Wikipedia seems to have removed all reference to sodomy from the article concerned lol. The spirit St Ambrose still guides them!

            • jim says:

              History of this incident has suffered numerous radical rewrites in recent times, and looks to me that a rewrite is on the way that unhappens it altogether.

              • orochimaru says:

                you know, I’ve long since stopped getting angry at The System. I admire its perverse brilliance and sure I hope that when we take power our side will just as cunning.

            • Tom says:

              Hans Anderson’s Imps mirror is one of those poetic things that’s more real than tangible reality. The demon on your shoulder prevents you from thinking.

              The church stood opposed to public amusements including chariot races from the inception. By the 4th century the games are declining because Christians tend not to go. Ambrose’s only comments on them are derogatory.

              Games fans go out of control and kill an official. This happening over a sodomite looks like a modern revision to me, but it doesn’t even matter, because everything indicates that Ambrose opposes the games either way. The emperor retaliates to the riot by use of violence against the whole city. Rioters or not. That part we have good historical attestation too.

              So why is Ambrose indignant? You say it’s because he cared about a sodomite and sportsfans. I say it was because his people were not at the games nor part of the riot, and in fact opposed the games in general, and they got punished indiscriminately anyway.

              Ambrose didn’t even object to the use of violence per se, but to the lack of trials and the uncontrolled scope of the violence. I agree with him.

              • Aidan says:

                Before investigative science, it was right practice to punish the entire community for excessive crime, as letting it get that bad is a stain on the male citizens meant to keep order.

                • eternal anglo says:

                  Aidan not sure if you saw my previous comment. https://blog.reaction.la/uncategorized/fixed-privacy-leak-in-avatars/#comment-2711361

                • Aidan says:

                  I will make a new email and be in touch with you shortly.

                • Tom says:

                  Sure, but Rome had repeatedly demonstrated the ability to selectively target offending communities within a city, and that was not exercised this time.

                  Lets say Theodosius sent in troops at the next game, exterminating all spectators. He would have a reputation for being clever and efficient then. The church and Ambrose would probably handwaive off any of the Christian community killed in that incident as being in a place they ought not have been anyway.

                  But even if he wasn’t clever enough for that. Knocking on doors, finding out roughly who could plausibly have been involved, and killing them and theirs would have been the normal way of dealing with it. It’s no surgical strike or investigative science, but it’s functional.

                  But when he struck the pro games rioters and the anti games community as one he punished his law-abiders. And if you punish cooperators you feed defection.

              • The Cominator says:

                Theodosius was a total priestcuck fag of an Emperor anyway.

                Imagine letting barbarians in en masse. He was a puppet for fanatical priests (Theodosius reign was purity spiraled christianity) who let in barbarians. He was basically the Joe Biden of the Roman Empire. He should be known as Theodosius the traitor not Theodosius the Great.

                The Eastern Empire only survived because Marcian made a very big point of reversing almost all of Theodosius policies if not for him (Constantinople having good walls or not) the East would have fallen too around the same time as the West.

                • polifugue says:

                  Valens let in the Goths, not Theodosius. Theodosius had the Goths become Foederati only after he was unable to defeat them.

                  Theodosius is called “the Great” because he crushed the Pagans at the Frigidus and established Christianity as the sole religion of the empire.

                • The Cominator says:

                  Valens made a big military fuckup but Theodosius didn’t just let in the Goths he let in everyone (and when Valens let in the Goths they theoretically were going to be under control the problem is the people controlling them were both sadistically and evilly corrupt, they were supposed to get rations for the 1st year or something but the officials there seized there food and told them if you want food sell your children as slaves and we’ll give you dog meat and this is literally from primary sources, and massively incompetent).

                  And it was the East that the Goths were in but it was the East that survived, and my theory is the East survived because there was an Emperor (Marcian) who was able to reverse almost every policy of Theodosius whereas no such thing happened in the West.

                  Theodosius purity spiraled christianity so that there was massive civil unrest all over the empire (including among most Christians).

                • jim says:

                  Theodesius was correct to suppress heresy. Trouble is that it is a fine line between suppressing dangerous entryist conspiracies, and purity spiraling the state religion. But he was on the correct side of that line.

                  Theodosius did not “let in” the Goths. He fought a long and bloody war to keep them out, and the war was not going too well, so he cut a deal that allowed a successful invasion to stand, subject to them agreeing to serve Rome. Which they did. Story goes that he accomplished through cultural domination what was not achievable by force of arms.

                  I am not aware that Marcian reversed any policies of Theodosius. Perhaps he had lighter touch on heresy, but the heresy in question was less dangerous.

                • The Cominator says:

                  Disagree with you on this Jim more than I’ve ever disagreed with you on any historical question.

                  During the reign of Theodosius children different religious groups were massacreing each other it was like a communist power struggle (including the disastorous order to murder the families of the Federati in Italy because they were untrustworthy Arians) and the Empire outside of Italy fell almost entirely into barbarian hands.

                  Theodosius deferred to Ambrose likely meaning he was basically a Donatist heretic himself, none of Constantine’s family would have ever tolerated any kind of crap from a bishop.

                  And no you can’t supress heresy when you are recruiting Arian heretics into your army wholesale that is fucking retarded.

                • jim says:

                  You are right, and I stand corrected.

                  Too much priestly power led to too much internal Christian conflict, as applecarts were available to be knocked over, and too much internal Christian conflict made Theodosius unable to deal with Attila the Hun.

                  Marcian was able to deal with Attila, because had better internal peace. He had better internal peace, because fewer applecarts available for Christian factions to knock over. He had a less serious heresy problem, because fewer goodies on the able.

                  Theodosius did not “let” the barbarians in. He was unable to stop them. But he let Christian factions knock over pagan applecarts, which led to bitter infighting between Christian factions over the apples rolling around, and the infighting made him weak.

                • The Cominator says:

                  Marcian probably had better internal peace because he called the christian factions together and said I don’t care what settlement you work out but work out a settlement, also we’re bringing back some of the Pagan party days as Christian party days (to which the Puritans in the future complained bitterly, Theodosius was into banning celebrations in a way that the elders of the Mass Bay colony would have approved of). The European provinces were mostly happy, the Syrian and Egyptian churches were not all that happy but they were content enough as they ever were…

                  People were also happier because he almost immediately lowered taxes and probably ordered the biggest rollback of the Roman command economy in the Empire’s history.

                  Theodosius deferred to Ambrose and capriciously played favorites in general and then purity spiraled what his favorites wanted… this caused the kind of turmoil that Gibbon got labeled anti christian for describing.

                • polifugue says:

                  Paganism and Arianism had to be destroyed in order to bring order to the empire. Just as a man cannot have two masters, an empire cannot have two faiths.

                  Late Pagan degeneracy destroyed the Roman state, which used to be understood until Gibbon rewrote history. The early church fathers record Roman society as utterly decadent, and a decadent society cannot produce the manpower needed to field armies, leading to the collapse of the West.

                  Marcian was able to refuse paying tribute to the Huns because the Balkans were completely destroyed during his predecessor’s reign, leaving nothing more for the Huns to destroy. Marcian’s religious policy is more Aelia Eudoxia’s religious policy, as she guided Ephesus (against Nestorianism) and Chalcedon (against Monophysitism), so I don’t know where you get the idea that he was more lenient than Theodosius.

                • The Cominator says:

                  An Empire can’t have many faiths IN THE ELITE. Trying to make everyone in a polygot empire one faith with a heavy hand is asking for trouble. Theodosius was probably an ignorant and fanatical Donatist christian, else Ambrose would have been executed (and I mean publically in a sadistic fashion to make a point) when he dared to excommunicate the emperor in order to show the priests their place.

                  But the religious policy which seemed to cause so much unrest and division in the Empire (that broke out into insanity during the reign of his children) That wasn’t even Theodosius main fuckup, Theodosius let many many barbarian tribes into the empire conceding land wholesale in return for basically an oath of allegiance (in Roman terms the tribes would become his clients) and they were allowed to settle beyond the natural boundaries of the empire wholesale. Theodosius was the world’s 1st open borders politician.

                  He was essentially the Joe Biden of Roman Emperors… except even worse because he almost certainly wasn’t a senile vegetable the way Biden is.

                  Marcian among other things ended the practice where barbarians could settle in their own homogenous communities barbarians who got settled under federati contracts couldn’t live with each other anymore. Marcian put the bishops in a room and made them agree or else, he didn’t back the viewpoint of one or a few favorite ignorant and fanatical bishops like Ambrose.

                • The Cominator says:

                  You can blame Pagan backstabbing of each other for the crisis of the 3rd century you cannot blame it for the Fall of the Empire in the West later.

                  Gibbon didn’t rewrite anything but tradcathcucks don’t like him because he noted pretty accurately how badly incohesive and troublesome the christian factions got around the crucial time after Flavius “Joe Biden” Theodosius died.

                  I’m not anti christian throughout all of history but during the period in question the christians (EXCEPT the Arians who were the reasonable and sane faction) were like Bolsheviks and woke cultists. They were particularly concerned with destroying statues, buildings and books they didn’t like and as much as they hated pagans for political reasons they were far more interested in purging each other.

                  Their insanity at the time led to one of the most single evil and insane and disastrous orders in history, the order to murder (not enslave, not hold hostage somewhere) all the wives and children of Roman federati living in Italy.

                • jim says:

                  The Arians were sane because out of power, and could not knock over some applecarts and grab some apples. Arianism is a flawed form of Christianity.

                • The Cominator says:

                  The Ostrogothic Arian kingdom seemed fairly sane. It only fell because of Belisarius…

                • jim says:

                  Arianism is much the same thing as Socinianism (the son not co-eternal with the father) and Socinianism was and is a catastrophe.

                  As soon as you allow a shake up in heaven, next thing you toss all the good Bronze Age social technology that Moses preserved against the decline and decadence of Bronze Age civilization. Supposedly Christ started the job of tossing that stuff, and his Socinian followers, being more enlightened and holier than he, then finish the job.

                  If Christ not eternal, then the moral order not eternal, if the moral order not eternal, Progress.

                  Jews do the same thing in a different way by tossing the final commandment, and holiness spiralling the rule on not boiling a kid goat in its mother’s milk (which was a reference to a specific pagan ritual now long forgotten) till a rule about a very specific action particular to that place and time swallows the entire moral universe.

                • The Cominator says:

                  Maybe long term but we’ll never know, the Ostrogothic Kingdom of Italy (where at least the ruling Ostrogothic elite were Arian) did not seem insane at all. Even the Catholic Encylopedia doesn’t say all that many bad things…

                  Unfortunately they had to contend with Belisarius (as did the also Arian Vandal kingdom)… who won the war against them (in the worst way possible where most of Italy was destroyed by the end)… that doesn’t necessarily mean their social technology was a total failure (now I would argue the social technology of the Visigothic kingdom in Spain was a total failure).

                  I think you draw too close an association between a communist entryist heresy and what was among early Christians probably the MORE popular form of christianity among people who probably considered themselves at least somewhat sincere christians, and that version of christianity lost out because one of history’s great military geniuses was sent against them more than any huge social flaw.

                • jim says:

                  As the Catholic Encyclopedia correctly says: “And of these wranglings the rationalist would take advantage in order to substitute for the ancient creed his own inventions.”

                  In the modern era, we know that they most vigorously did take advantage. Maybe Arian was OK, maybe his immediate successors were OK, but his modern offspring are definitely not OK

                  The Catholic Encyclopedia does not accuse Arian of being a modernist, that would be silly, but it says that modernism is implicit in his doctrines and modernism logically follows from them. On this, they are correct. Maybe it is unfair to focus on that truth, but it is still true.

                • polifugue says:

                  Making a polyglot empire have one faith is absolutely necessary, because a state must be unified on the basis of race or religion, and an empire must have a state religion. The Pagans did this by building a statue of Jupiter in every corner of the empire.

                  The Goths were a nation of elites. Before the days of gunpowder it took elite blood to become a master of the sword, the bow, and the horse. Adrianople was disastrous because the Roman Empire lost an irreplaceable number of soldier families that could not be replaced by conscripting peasants. Look at the family of the current king of Spain; most of the Spanish elite are descended from the Visigoths.

                  The decline of early Roman Paganism brought on the death of Roman civilization because it disrupted the fertility of the Roman elite to the point where they could no longer field competent armies. The Romans lost 70,000 at Cannae but could replace those soldiers through paterfamilias; when they lost 20,000 at Adrianople they couldn’t because paterfamilias was gone.

                  To my knowledge, Honorius ordered the killings of the families of the Roman foederati after killing Stilicho, which lends me to believe that the divide was more racial rather than religious. A Roman state without a Roman army is no longer a Roman state; if Rome cannot muster an army to fight a foreign force in Italy the Roman Empire is merely a skeleton.

                  Destroying Pagan books and statues is not a problem. Keeping the Easter Bunny and Christmas lights are good things, statues of Zeus should only be in museums. Woke cultists are evil because their faith is evil, not their methods.

                • The Cominator says:

                  “To my knowledge, Honorius ordered the killings of the families of the Roman foederati after killing Stilicho”

                  The Roman elite had not been racially unitary probably since before the 3rd century…

                  Its not clear Honorius gave the order he was a powerless figurehead for Stilcho and was probably an equally powerless figurehead after Stilcho was murdered for whoever led the Coup D’etat against Stilcho.

                  The especially evil insane order (like among the top 5 in history for that, most communist states never did any single act that was THAT insane) was given at a time when lots of other mostly religious massacres were going on, which leads me to believe it was more driven by religion (the Federati overwhelmingly tended to be Arians) than by the fact that the Federati also tended to be Germanic.

            • polifugue says:

              Christianity gave the world investigative science. It is a moral imperative to avoid punishing the innocent just as it is to discover truth from facts.

              The primary source letter from Saint Ambrose to Theodosius:
              https://sourcebooks.fordham.edu/source/ambrose-let51.asp

              The idea that the riot caused a rift between St. Ambrose and Theodosius is modern revisionist history. Ambrose begins his letter by explaining why he did not meet the emperor when he was in Milan, and then commends the emperor for his piety.

              St. Ambrose was upset with Theodosius because the bishops were upset with him. Many faithful Christians died in the massacre, and as such St. Ambrose felt it was necessary for him to undergo penance.

              “I, indeed, though a debtor to your kindness, for which I cannot be ungrateful, that kindness which has surpassed that of many emperors, and has been equalled by one only; I, I say, have no cause for a charge of contumacy against you, but have cause for fear; I dare not offer the sacrifice if you intend to be present. Is that which is not allowed after shedding the blood of one innocent person, allowed after shedding the blood of many? I do not think so.”

              Excommunication in the church before the advent of Papism was not necessarily an act of hostility, merely a suspension on serving communion. My priest (Orthodox) will excommunicate someone at confession if he brings up a grudge against another parishioner. According to him, most of the time said grudge gets resolved without incident and the person is given communion again.

              Roman Catholics rewrote Ambrose as a symbol of the church over Caesar, and Progressives are in the process of rewriting Ambrose as a symbol of Moloch over an Christian ruler. In reality, St. Ambrose was providing spiritual stewardship over a monarch he loved and appreciated.

              Always look at the primary source documents as Leftists lie about everything.

              • Tom says:

                Well written.

                On top of all that it has to be considered that at the time shedding of innocent blood included legitimate warfare, and solders were given a temporary excommunication after battles per St Basil.

                But Christian soldiers were entirely allowed.

                The rift between Theodosius and the church over this is small indeed. Theodosius was only subject to the same censure that many other Christians in good standing faced.

            • Oog en Hand says:

              Ambro <== amru
              Zeno <== zaynu

              Comparative Linguistics…

        • Oog en Hand says:

          Again, Debbie Downer here:

          Emiratesmarsmission.ae

  9. The Cominator says:

    https://www.bitchute.com/video/AoFAgfZY7Ek/

    Jim to what extent do you think this threatens crypto.

    Could it threaten my crypto miner stock?

    • jim says:

      Enormous and central threat to cryptocurrency. https://helplbrysavecrypto.com

      This is what my entire design has been about from the beginning. Well, first and foremost it is about scalability, scaling to big enough for the whole world. But secondly it is about scaling to world size while not getting crap regulated out of it.

      The government does not intend to suppress crypto currency. It intends to put the bureaucratic strangle on it as with stock exchanges and banking. This is why we need to destroy the crypto exchanges, as a first step to destroying the banks and the stock exchanges.

      Yes, it could threaten your crypto stock, because it is a stock. Because, if traded on an official stock exchange, highly regulated, highly vulnerable to regulators.

      At some point – probably not next week, probably not next month, probably not next year, but eventually – everyone involved in crypto and vulnerable to regulation is going to be screwed.

      • Pooch says:

        Do you still advise holding crypto on hardware wallets in light of this news?

        • jim says:

          It is the only game in town. But some hardware wallets are integrated into central servers and regulated companies, which creates a point of vulnerability.

          People who are in a position to do you harm don’t make your vulnerability to harm easy to see.

          Your hardware wallet should support PSBT: Partially Signed Bitcoin Transaction and BIP174, as these are capable of interacting by a totally decentralized protocol that does not rely on DNS.

      • The Cominator says:

        Keep us updated as to any causes to take quick action if you would?

        • jim says:

          I don’t really watch for causes for quick action.

          The big picture is that crypto currency cannot really coexist with the existing regulated system.

          In the end, there can only be one. Efforts to put the genie back in the bottle started quite some time ago, are escalating, and will continue to escalate. Libry’s big mistake is that they opened the door to the regulators and expected the regulators to act in accordance with the spirit and letter of existing law and regulation.

          I could have told them what was coming down the track.

      • Pooch says:

        The government does not intend to suppress crypto currency. It intends to put the bureaucratic strangle on it as with stock exchanges and banking.

        This lines up with why the big banks seem to be embracing Bitcoin and crypto. They are not looking at it like a competitor but just another regulated security to be offered to their investors.

    • The Cominator says:

      Jim they are represented by the leftist glowniggery lawfirm of Perkins Coie, who were among other things connected with trying to frame Trump for muh Russia.

      That is probably not good… so lets assume they lose what happens next…

      • jim says:

        Their strategy is that you hire someone who is in good with the regulators, in the hope that they can pull strings in your favor.

        Trouble is that the likely way they keep in good with the regulators is by double crossing their clients. They are likely setting this up to create the legal precedent that the regulators want.

        Hiring lawyers who were in good with the people who were persecuting him did not work in General Flynn’s favor. His legal team set him up.

        • Karl says:

          That’s the problem with attorneys. On the one hand, I want my attorneys to know the judge well and be able talk to him privately off the record. On the other hand, I want them to act in my interest and that sometimes implies acting against the interest of the judge which they are more likely do if they do not know the judge.

          Old problem. Noone has found a perfect solution.

  10. Pooch says:

    Well looks like they are double-downing on ole China flu. Biden calling for reimposition of mask mandates and vaccine passports now.

    https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2021/03/29/biden-demands-states-reimpose-covid-mask-mandates/

    • The Ducking Man says:

      I wear masks outside because diesel fume and laterite dust is very real threat to my health.

      For sure I don’t wear mask for China flu which turned out to be big nothing burger.

      I’ve developed personal sense of disgust to people who wear mask indoor.

    • nils says:

      seems ancient greece and grr martin both understood masks better then you, they are just an occult garb to signal, I went on a trip and walked into a gas station in another US state, the workers refused to look at me, one guy gave me the nod, biden isnt “doubling down” hes not made any bet at all or given any will to this, he is just participating in the same purity spiral as the rest of the week and wicked, if they start enforcing effectively “vacs” checkpoints then that is something, otherwise its just wmds in iraq, soon to be memory holed.

  11. Pooch says:

    Horrifying car jacking caught on video in DC in broad daylight…
    https://twitter.com/AuronMacintyre/status/1376003441374457861?s=20

    The 2nd Amendment may be the most important issue now, if only to protect us from feral nigs.

    • The Cominator says:

      I’d vote to acquit, swamp dwellers ain’t people may DC become Detroit anywhere outside secure area grounds.

      • Pooch says:

        It’ll be happening in every American city soon enough.

        • The Cominator says:

          And that’d be bad outside the beltway but we want the entire beltway to become Detroit.

          • Pooch says:

            Would be funny I guess if you start seeing dumb Dem Congress critters being carjacked.

            • The Cominator says:

              Its not that likely the congresscritters themselves have that happen… but their staffs and hangers on it’d be a good thing.

          • nils says:

            I would be interested to see the numbers overlayed with the authentic negro population and the percent of americans affected by exodus americanus, probs such things are impossible today, but as a yanky who suffers from the great northern migration of post cotton invasion, i can say that most of em are as bottled up here as in france, even as a lad we would go into darkie town without any fear as long as we stayed in the businesses and not in the residentials. this new wave of war is more then detroit, it is seeking out conflict rather then poisoning some areas. I can say growing up the city was far away, but with the holiness spiral? even the rural folk like us are gunning up and getting ready to sling a pick into the ground, last summer was a genuinely scary time, maybe im just foolish but i got very bosnian vibes and being near a mil base there was stuff happening the last few years that was new to me, lot of petrol being burned in the night without obvious cause tho its quieter now

        • Dave says:

          Whites, Asians, Arabs, Indians, and Jews in every American city voted for black supremacy, and they got black supremacy. What’s the problem?

          • G.T. Chesterton says:

            Horrifying car jacking caught on video in DC in broad daylight…

            The headline is worrying, until you see that N.H.I.

          • Karl says:

            I don’t think they did. Anyway, voting doesn’t matter anymore.

      • Ace says:

        >I’d vote to acquit, swamp dwellers ain’t people may DC become Detroit anywhere outside secure area grounds.

        You don’t need to worry about it. Blacks don’t convict blacks.

    • Ace says:

      I think self defense is largely defacto illegal in blue areas. In rural areas people might soon be burring the bodies rather than reporting it to the police.

      • Aidan says:

        Its not de facto illegal. Predators go after the weak in the herd, instinctively attacking those unlikely to defend themselves.

  12. miu says:

    does my cat have fucking cornrows? …whatever

    important bit: whaddya big brains here think of Doctor Coleman?

    https://brandnewtube.com/v/DOIoyV

    tl;dw

    20 min video describing possible human extinction event as a possibility of these bio-weapon not-vaccines

    he’s always seemed credible to me so now i ask y’all. his final suggestion, if this path be probable, is that those who’ve avoided the jab may need to quarantine themselves from contact with those that have been vaccinated in order to survive what he expects will be a terrible *possibly* unintended consequence of this psychotic experiment

    • jim says:

      He is nut.

      The vaccines are likely to be more dangerous than China Flu. Which is not all that dangerous. They are not infectious. It is not a plot, it is primarily incompetence.

      One widely used vaccine is loose RNA, which is incapable of reproducing. Another is a virus that has been rendered incapable of reproducing. It takes over the cell, the cell sends panic signals to the immune system “Help I am being taken over, kill me before I kill”, and then the virus fails to do anything with that control.

      These vaccines are unlikely to do much harm to healthy people – they might kill a few of those that are frail or who have dodgy immune systems. They will protect you against China flu, but probably have a bad effect on your immune system. For most people, it is a wash – less danger from China flu, more danger from the vaccine. Neither danger is significant.

      • miu says:

        i appreciate your taking the time to chat with me about this

      • simplyconnected says:

        The fact that it is being pushed so hard (propaganda, vaccine passports, pushing it on the young, all coordinated, everywhere the same plans) that alone tells me not to get it. No one needs to be sold something good that hard.
        I wouldn’t need it at all anyway, and it will still be pushed on me: hard no.

        • orochimaru says:

          i think this is mostly just the result of a purity spiral. the priesthood has sanctified vaccines. nobody wants to be the heretic that will violate this most holy sacrament.

          • jim says:

            Exactly so.

            Inflicting vaccines of dubious effectiveness and safety on everyone is not an evil plot to do everyone harm. It is a sacrament, and all must observe the sacraments of the state religion.

            The vaccines are, in most cases, somewhat effective, and the danger for a young healthy person is slight. But the danger of China flu for a young healthy person is also slight.

            • simplyconnected says:

              Inflicting vaccines of dubious effectiveness and safety on everyone is not an evil plot to do everyone harm.

              They changed the WHO definition for herd immunity so herd immunity would only be declared when most people are vaccinated. The WHO is in on it, so it seems like there’s planning behind it. Whether the intention is evil or comes from spiraling holiness, forcing it on people seems pretty evil to me. I cannot speak to whether they do harm, but these people are not to be trusted.

              • Pooch says:

                Experimental gene therapy

                • jim says:

                  Holy water cannot harm anyone (or maybe it can, if literal demons exist and someone is possessed by a literal demon) But modern sacraments are fake materialist, and therefore based on scientism, and scientism retains uncomprehended fragments of what makes science potent.

              • jim says:

                They want everyone vaccinated as a sacrament unto the Covid demon, and are indifferent as to whether it is likely to do harm.

                • whizzo says:

                  I’ve done a bit of research on the Spanish flu of 1918.
                  Much like current covid thing.
                  In year 1 (2020) no excess deaths around the world, no pandemic, just lots of fear-mongering, faked figures, propaganda, and then the big push for vaccines.

                  Yesr 2, espeically winter 2, the effects of the vaccines cause millions of deaths, old people mostly, as their own bodies kill them by over-reacting to any old infection. Vox shared soem research on this recently.

                  SO watch out as we head into winter, things will get really bad.

                  The push by Biden and all other nations for ‘vaccine passports’ is the real reaspn for the fake pandemic and the misllions who will die in the years ahead. The whole world will be moved towards digiatl IDs, very Chinese, very bad, obviously.

                  Much more is planned, the Davos crowd have been telling us what’s coming for years, now they are open about the Great Reset.

          • simplyconnected says:

            > nobody wants to be the heretic that will violate this most holy sacrament.

            I will never take their fucking poison.

            • onyomi says:

              Yeah, with this “vaccine passport” idea now mooted, I’ve firmly decided I won’t be getting the vaccine nor holding any jobs, attending any events, etc. that require such a “passport.” Though difficulties with international travel will be a big inconvenience for me, I think this is too important not to take a stand.

              That said, for purposes of international travel I wouldn’t be above… paying someone for some photoshop creativity, but since presumably whatever it is will be linked to centralized databases checked at airports, it seems like forgery may be difficult?

              • onyomi says:

                Perhaps what is needed is to get a doctor friend to “administer” a real dose of the vaccine with a real lot number, etc. but of course you’d be asking someone to take a serious risk of losing medical license, etc.

                • The Cominator says:

                  If I need one I’m going to bribe someone to say I got a shot.

                • onyomi says:

                  Seems the way to go.

                • Pooch says:

                  Actual practicing male doctors (not the gay public health priesthood) are more right wing than you think. I’m sure it would be possible.

                • Pooch says:

                  Actually thinking about this a little more, doctors rarely actually administer vaccines. Better to bribe a low level black nurse or assistant at a clinic or something. I’d be fine handing them 200 bucks. Blacks are extremely easy to bribe. I used to bribe black bouncers regularly to cut the long lines to get into the clubs back when I was deep in night game.

                • onyomi says:

                  Yeah, I was thinking some Walgreens employee would have a lot less to lose than one’s doctor friend.

                • nils says:

                  “…of course you’d be asking someone to take a serious risk of losing medical license, etc.”
                  Bullsh!t, doctors in my state have not lost jack for malpractice in a century, i doubt any doctor anywhere in the US is at risk for diddly, if you think the law matters more then the bureaucrats, you’re playing a game which does not exist, america is a bribable country, the normies just havent realized it yet. everything in the medical industry, Everything, is a monopolized who/whom. sharlisa or karen will squirt that shit down the drain faster then you can say damn, if you pass them a few 20s. And if you’re worried about people noticing later on just pass them a few twenties to discover a majickal new mystery syndrome of uber rare uneffectium vaccinarum, scientists arent dangerous. Cops and Swat are, plus the IRS maybe, stop worrying about your doctors party fidelity. play the game you see a decade or three from now, thats the one you are living in, everything else is BS you can bribe docs, you can bribe cops, you can do whatever you have to, the devil is bound to take the good deal and the wicked, so make the good one and survive. I have broken laws and got away with squat, no one wants trouble everyone wants an excuse, give em a ‘oly one. they will shut up and ignore anything.

                • jim says:

                  > if you think the law matters more then the bureaucrats, you’re playing a game which does not exist, america is a bribable country, the normies just havent realized it

                  When the dust settled from the Great Minority Mortgage Meltdown, African levels of corruption became visible, and there were no consequences for anyone.

                • onyomi says:

                  I have never actually bribed anyone, so I’ll take your word for it that Americans are bribable! Honestly, it’s the thought of the untouchable true believers that scares me more at this point.

                • The Cominator says:

                  Doctors can get in trouble for lots of shit, nurses don’t unless they are caught poisoning someone. Also strangely for an overwhelmingly female organization the nurses union is fairly cohesive and pro nurse.

                • nils says:

                  “nurses don’t unless they are caught poisoning someone. Also strangely for an overwhelmingly female organization the nurses union is fairly cohesive and pro nurse.” nurses poison peeps on the regular, they are memory holed as virtues’ priests of the whory order. nurses are harlots of baal who do whatever they are told, the nurses unions are not female in the slightest, nurses are sub 90-80 IQ and incapable of organizing(remember the tale of the doctors who wouldn’t wash their bonesaws? yep, shit hasn’t changed, what works and what’s done are a sight different), they are defection tools by hospital administers who don’t have lords to hang them for their treachery. I know a few nurses. They are the essence of useful idiots espoused by stalinesque figures. dumber then a sack of rocks, the men are obese fags and the women, cobble stones. They do as told and do not possess “unions”. nurses are the worst emulsion of eastern(german and pre ww2 russian woman(is the civil war an explanation for the unexplained predominance of blond women in the 1940s?)) you can imagine, they are horrific. If you are living in a world where you should go to an hospital for an ailment which is not blatantly obvious, a-la compound fracture in the super bowl. You are an idiot. simple stitching? safer at home with the “comraderie” of your veterinarian friend. I am deadly serious. Hospitals are death traps for idiots, my cousin lost a 20 somethin friend to Great British TM medicine courtesy of the NHS, He and his wife are of course convinced that despite the fact that the US and even fricking argentina can pull off the same fix on the regular without fuss(I know a good family from that southern hellhole) the nhs, which fucks simple anesthesia up on the regular, is not to blame. For real, they think their shitstain of a ,health “care” system is superior and are choosing to raise an infant in that monstrous beast, despite their knowing multiple persons who have died from the evil in it. I said if you think it should be modus operandi in 20-30 years(circa 2040-50) you should operate on that assumption today, too many of you men don’t get it, our medicine is bosnian, circa 1990 level maybe, if your lucky like me, you know the really good men who can genuinely patch you back together(illegally), probs not tho. Your vet knows more about your damn health then your doctor. Ranchers are morbidly diseased, their horses are not Ever. ask the vet who spends cash they didn’t Earn, they actually know their shit. As much as those here are good men, get your balls in a pair and stop worrying about shit, if they are gonna go after you they dont need fuck all for “proof” they just cook up a jury and no real man will ever look under the hood. You are outlaws or soon to be, so stop your’ bellyaching and live by God’s laws already.

                • INDY says:

                  “nurses are sub 90-80 IQ and incapable of organizing”

                  Nurses are capable of being organized. The few unions I know are as Cominator described.

                • The Cominator says:

                  Nurses aren’t generally all that smart but most of them don’t deliberately poison people not unless ordered to anyway. There have been quite a few serial killer nurses though.

                  I could not tell you who actually runs the nurses union only that it seems strangely cohesive and pro nurse for an organization with overwhelmingly female members while the doctors union is a tool of Harvard and the academic priesthood in general that is not at all for the interests of doctors.

                  Doctors get raped on malpractice, in most states they are required to carry malpractice insurance (lawyers would not generally be interested in suing them otherwise) and the premiums are crippling.

                  Yes the medical system sucks because of the government/cathedral (and the insurance companies who have more money for bribes than anyone) we know all this.

                • G.T. Chesterton says:

                  A couple female pharmacists and nurses have already been busted for InstaTok-bragging about forging their own vax cards. If your male doctor friend can avoid the temptation to attention-whore on the internet, he’ll be fine.

  13. The most important personal lesson I keep seeing unfolding all through my life, with many kinds of political and personal lessons with it as well, is the inter-related unfolding of authority and responsibility. Always together.

    Like, for example, if there is one (pseudo-)Christian idea I loathe is that “everybody has their own personal cross”. No, God is not sending us tribulations, unnecessary sufferings just to test our faith. Admittedly, God is still far more a metaphor of speaking than reality for me, but the metaphor has the same logic as the real one, as logic *inside our mental reasoning* is something that happens between symbols. And it cannot possibly work like that. Makes no sense.

    For Christianity to make any sense, His Cross was the last cross *as a cross*, that is like half the point of it. We have our responsibilities as God’s lieautenants, charged with keeping good order in some small part in his Creation. This can be difficult. But they are not sufferings for the sake of suffering or somehow proving faith through that. They are jobs.

    Now, the people I tend to hear this idea from are mostly the oh so typical rural Catholic great-grandma in my neck of Europe. It hurts here in my leg and it hurts there in my lower back and this is my personal cross. No, dammit, it is God’s indirect blessing through the work of smart men that you are even alive to see your great-grandkids at 82. Your husband died without seeing them, was that his personal cross?

    And this is where what I mentioned above about authority and responsibility comes into play. These old gals are actually… behaving 101% well. Really. Because their husbands and brothers are dead, their sons are working somewhere else where there is better money, they are following the only local male authority left to them, the local priest. It is 100% his fault. Why is he teaching this to them?

    Just like when many officers die in battle and the grunts end up following the legitimate authority of some logistics geek officer who happened to stay alive and then end up doing stupid shit on his orders. It is not their fault, it is the fault of officerdom for not having had the foresight to provide for this situation a better officer. Authority = responsibility. Authority propagates downwards, hence responsibility upwards.

    Don’t ever blame people who are just following an authority they should be following. This is sort of this personal lesson to me. Because I used to be kinda angry on the old gals for spreading this stupid idea. But I was wrong. They are not responsible.

    • The Cominator says:

      “Don’t ever blame people who are just following an authority they should be following.”

      At a certain point you absolutely should blame them for continuing to follow a bad authority. Much of the trouble we are in is because almost everyone (except me and a couple of other people) wanted to trust the good intentions of the Cathedral public health authorities rather than my approach (when in doubt be paranoid and lets err on the side of some extra old people dying if I’m wrong). An authority you suspect of malice or incompetence should be fragged by all good men at any opportunity. A good soldier absolutely should shoot a bad officer in the back when he has the chance.

      The followers of the priesthood who obey out of imminent fear to the minimum degree they have to in order to survive should of course not be blamed, anyone who goes beyond that (especially men and especially white men) should be considered part of the priesthood themselves.

  14. Miu says:

    an interesting chat with a retired Pentagon fella, a Lt. Gen. Tom McInerney.

    the last 10 minutes suggests to me that China is softening us up for invasion or, at minimum, rendering our Healthcare and Military incapable whilst they pursue something else.

    so, what’s y’all odds on invasion? maybe invasion ain’t the right word. if everyone who took the biological weapon disguised as a vaccine dies then it like…. what’s that sci fi bomb that kills all the people but leaves all the infrastructure intact? a neutron bomb/pulse?

    anyway, they appear to be attempting to Sun Tzu us.

    • jim says:

      China’s ambitions are clearly expressed, no secret, and are considerably more modest.

      They don’t want to conquer us, but they intend to once more become the middle empire, the dominant world power, the way the US used to be the dominant world power, and everyone thinks that it still is. They intend to be a land and coastal power, the way the US is an airsea power.

      This may well result in them dominating Europe and ruling it indirectly, the way the US rules it indirectly, but they are in no hurry to get to that point.

      • Pooch says:

        They seem to be content with looting us on the way out.

      • miu says:

        observing our psychopathic rulers has conditioned me toward suspicion of anything explicitly stated, if that’s what you mean by “clearly expressed”

        i trust your take on this issue and will continue observing

    • Pooch says:

      There was a ton of misinformation during the election dispute citing Lt. Gen. Tom McInerney as a source. I’m not inclined to take any article credible citing him as a source.

      • Ace says:

        A lot of the misinformation was likely enemy action to make anyone pointing out the theft of the election to look insane (I have no idea why anyone need the dominion stuff after watching boxes of hidden ballots being counted with the observers sent home in Atlanta, that was the smoking gun). It was a quite effective as people believed that Trump was far more competent than he actually was leading to believing insane things as reality clashed with perception.

        Anyone who previously distrusted enemy misinformation should never be trusted again.

    • Contaminated NEET says:

      A small band of strangers establish a cooperate-cooperate equilibrium based on shared race and tribe and easily route their numerically superior but disorganized and demoralized opposition. It would be an inspiring video if we weren’t on the wrong side of it.

      • Ace says:

        As Jim says, whites are wolves to other whites. Our unity comes through tribe or religion not race

        • Pooch says:

          This is the wignat fallacy. Wignats wish to bring about cohesion solely based on race like the nigs (thus the term wigger nationalist). Does not work.

          • jim says:

            In prison, you have to join a white gang. But there is apt to be more than one white gang, and not every white gets to be in the gang.

          • Contaminated NEET says:

            Look down on them and their strategy all you want, but the nigs decisively won the encounter in that video. Obviously there’s more to tribe than only race, but race is a major and immediately obvious component of tribe.

            The fag and the hijabi girl would consider each other hated enemies were they both white, but as blacks they recognized the need for a united front against the real outsiders, and it worked very well for them.

            • Ace says:

              Yes it works very for Africans. Murder the whites, then murder the half blacks, then return to living in grass huts, just like in Haiti.

              If it worked well for whites, whites would have wiped every other race 3 times over now since the white race has now been the dominate military and technologically group 3 different epochs. It doesn’t work for us because it’s our intergroup competition that keeps driving us forward.

              • Pooch says:

                Does being outnumbered by opposing races have any affect on cohesion? American blacks seem to rally around their minority status in their total numbers. Then again, Haitian and South African blacks did outnumber whites respectively save for Orania but even that may be based on Christian cohesion and not white cohesion.

                • jim says:

                  The problem is that whites have largely internalized a belief system, where acknowledging that you are in danger from people of other races is forbidden – which is how Detroit died.

                  If we generally saw the world as it is, we would move groups causing problems to reservations and let them eat each other.

                • Ace says:

                  If we generally saw the world as it is, we would move groups causing problems to reservations and let them eat each other.

                  This is likely what will happen with China in Africa. China may not be setting out to being a world colonizing power but Africans are fucking worthless in modern mining and infrastructure building. China’s going to have to colonize Africa just so they can get the materials they need.

                • Pooch says:

                  The problem is that whites have largely internalized a belief system, where acknowledging that you are in danger from people of other races is forbidden – which is how Detroit died.

                  Yes this was demonstrated in the video with the whites fear of being called racists preventing any type of white cohesion. The blacks sensed that weakness and decisively used it to their advantage.

                • suones says:

                  The problem is that whites have largely internalized a belief system, where acknowledging that you are in danger from people of other races is forbidden…

                  Nonsense. Herd behaviour is a characteristic of lower animals, where they mitigate their individual low-chances of survival statistically. The way herd animals of the two-legged kind appear to be utilising their numerical strength strategically is only because of “democracy.” Once you extend “the vote” to pigs, don’t be surprised when they form perpetual government through high fertility,[1] and everyone has to wallow in filth. The situation isn’t learning to be more like pigs, it is in removing this ridiculous form of decision-making by universal “vote.”

                  Aryans, having higher functionality, tend to be more individualistic, to the extent that even Aryan goyim are more individualistic than Arab warriors,[2] for example. Indian politics is totally dominated by “vote-banks,” which effectively means goyim herds led by a “banker” who vote at his command. It would be much better for everyone if the “leaders” could simply choose the best among themselves, but then it wouldn’t be very “democratic,” (although it would be exactly how the United States was initailly supposed to work).

                  You can never “convince” a group of Aryans to have co-operate-co-operate equilibrium. You have to literally force them through military and spiritual power, and maintain that force right from the King-Emperor to the local lord. Dharma shastras tell us that the only way to win the respect of a Brahmin is to demonstrate superior knowledge, to a Kshatriya (warrior) is through domination in battle, to a Vaisya through display of far greater wealth, and to a Shudra by physical beauty (as per the Shudra definition lol).

                  [1]: High fertility of pigs is not the problem though, as long as we have sufficient numbers of minders, that is, elite fertility is not low.

                  [2]: A microcosm of this can be seen in the only ethno-state in the world — Israel. The low-caste, low-IQ Jews form the bulk of the population and behave collectively, whereas the higher-IQ “intellectual” class is split between nationalism and prog-ism, with the balance hugely in favour of prog-ism in America and turning toward prog-ism in Israel.

                • Pooch says:

                  If we generally saw the world as it is, we would move groups causing problems to reservations and let them eat each other.

                  The only exception to this is Haiti. How did the blacks manage to win there? Was it lack of French cohesion?

                • jim says:

                  Sort of. Haiti was lost in France, as Saigon fell in Washington.

                  Stabbed in the back from Paris.

                  Without white support from Paris, blacks in Haiti would still be slaves. Once the slave revolt started, there was plenty of white cohesion within Haiti.

                  Haiti was white on white operation with black muppets.

              • Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

                Post hoc ergo propter hoc.

                Europoids defecting on europoids is contingently adaptive in the case that they are so dominant that noone else comes close to competing.

                The eternal teenage hippy, baby boomers, felt perfectly fine with parroting feel good flattering lies, because they had no concept of how any of it would relate to the way of life they took for granted; they could not imagine how the civilization they lived in could ever go wrong; could not imagine that whites as a folk could ever actually not be ‘a thing’; and hence, had no compunctions about trading off on any and all of it for pseudosanctimonia.

                The moment a set of organisms becomes capable of inventing civilization in their space, is the moment the selection pressures change radically. The more ‘surplus capital’ they are capable of, the more particular exponents may be insulated from more direct interface with divine law. Hence the frequent glibly fatalistic observation: “If someone can afford to make bad decisions, they will”. And hence, the stepwise increasing necessity for men themselves to become avatars for channeling divine law (some having more success with this than others).

                It does not mean that such carrying on is a good thing, but the *negation* of good things; a great filter even, if you will.

              • Contaminated NEET says:

                >Murder the whites, then murder the half blacks, then return to living in grass huts, just like in Haiti.

                Well, someone lives in a grass hut and while someone’s corpse feeds the worms. Which one is the winner here?

                • Dave says:

                  The worms are the winners, because after one winter without white people, they get to eat all the Africans too.

                • Contaminated NEET says:

                  >The worms are the winners

                  OK, that’s a clever line, I admit. It doesn’t change the fact that the negroes won, the whites lost. You’ll do and say anything to avoid admitting that their strategy works. Is it clear-eyed realism, or are you still enthralled by proggie racial doctrines?

                • The Cominator says:

                  Asians would win.

                  Asians are not very susceptible to Cathedral racial guilt memes and not at all in their home countries.

                  Stop being a wignat. Accept that their worldview is flawed and that American whites will never really act as a unitary tribe.

                • Pooch says:

                  The present conflict, as it stands today, still boils down to good whites (us) vs evil whites, with the non-whites being agents of the evil whites. We haven’t reached Haiti status yet.

                • Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

                  Indeed; which is the necessary prefigurement for cominating the whites who don’t act as a unitary tribe.

                • The Cominator says:

                  That can’t be done until post victory (or during the war for leftist whites who find themselves behind our lines).

                • jim says:

                  Whites really cannot organize on the basis of racial cohesion. It is not on our nature. Observe how that turned out in Nazi Germany, as Hitler proceeded to make a good start on genociding Greek Nazis. Not very cohesive of him. And the alliance with Mussolini did not go so well for Mussolini.

                  It was, as always, a white on white conflict, and whites who sought to organize on the basis of racial cohesion rapidly came into conflict with other whites who sought to organize on the basis of racial cohesion.

                  On the other hand, prison gangs are always racial. It is easier, much easier, to organize and cooperate with people that are like oneself.

                  But the white prison gangs, which, white cohesion being illegal, are our primary example of white cohesion, do not organize to protect all whites from all blacks. They organize to protect some whites from everyone, regardless of race. They are all white, but do not have unity and cohesion on the basis of race. They have unity and cohesion on the basis of gang membership. They make not the slightest attempt to be inclusive of whites in the prison generally, or to protect whites in the prison generally.

                  If the Republican party has a future, it is going to have to take a white prison gang as its model. And the white prison gang does not think all Jews are one Jew. Does not think about Jews all that much at all.

                • Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

                  I trust you take the point however; for one to grant the power of those races capable of racial cohesion, while at the same time signaling against men who advocate for whites to again wield that same power for themselves; exactly what one might expect from those species of men most instinctively disposed towards defecting on their neighbors.

                • The Cominator says:

                  Its debatable how much blacks in the absence of the Cathedral preaching a religion of get whitey could organize based on racial cohesion either, American blacks have an advantage most of them were from the same small group of tribes in Africa.

                  In Africa they don’t have much more racial solidarity with each other than whites do (or indeed Asians).

                • Pooch says:

                  That’s a really good point. If black cohesion really was natural to them, we would see Africa being able to cooperate on a large scale, which is the opposite of what we see. It’s completely tribal. Same goes for the Native Americans/Indians. If the various tribes were able to unite and cooperate based on shared race, they would have made it much harder to be subjugated by the various European/American powers.

                • The Cominator says:

                  But in fact it was the opposite, 95% (if not 99%) of slaves taken by whites in Africa were sold to whites by africans generally prisoners taken in tribal warfare but on occasion if the African chiefs would start mass enslaving lots of members of their own tribes to sell to white slave traders. Whites raiding coastal villages for slaves (though it did sometimes happen) was rare.

                  So I do not think that blacks in fact do not have that much innate racial solidarity. I think with humans racial solidarity is always a partial factor but its only one factor, that can be weakened or strengthened based on religious and tribal memetics.

                • jim says:

                  It looks to me that most slaves sold were not prisoners taken in tribal warfare, though low level tribal conflict intermediate between high crime levels and actual warfare was frequently involved.

                  They were rather people that the local authorities just did not want around any more – vagrants, bums, and petty criminals, not warriors.

                  Enslaving people because the chief just wanted to sell them was uncommon, though hardly unknown. Actual warfare was a substantial source, but it does not seem to have been the main source, and to the extent that it was a source, those slaves were apt to be trouble.

                • The Cominator says:

                  Memetic and religion can undermine even the most racially and tribally cohesive groups.

                  Christianity was banned in Japan because Totoyomi Hideyoshi and Tokugawa Ieyashu thought that while all Shinto and Buddhist Japanese would put all differences aside and rally to the “Emperor’s” banner if there was a foreign christian invasion (the Japanese fought each other at time but even then were probably cohesive enough if there was a foreign invasion)… they did not trust the loyalty of the Christian Daimyo and Samurai the same way and thought of them as a potential 5th column in case the Spanish were planning an invasion.

                • The Cominator says:

                  If the tribal chiefs enslaved their own there was some thin legal justification, but something about the law or enforcement of the law (what passed for law in West African tribal societies) would be changed in such a way to see lots and lots of people enslaved.

                  But I did think for the most part most people enslaved came from raids on other tribes.

                • jim says:

                  The data on this is thin. Slave raiding attracted a lot of attention, rightly so, but what is the evidence that it was a major factor?

                  My evidence is weak, I read people who were around at the time, and obviously there is a selection effect – if someone is writing stuff down, things are probably pretty quiet, so it is kind of weak evidence. What evidence do you have.

                • The Cominator says:

                  We’re dealing with records of pre colonization West Africa so as you say thin evidence.

                  But it was not typical for rulers to get away with selling their own men en masse too often without danger to themselves the way the 18th century Dukes of Hesse would in history (especially in small scale tribal societies)… So I suspect that African chiefs got the bulk of their slave stock from raids on other tribes or else risked being killed.

                • jim says:

                  > it was not typical for rulers to get away with selling their own men en masse

                  Rulers did not sell their subjects en masse. (With a few infamous exceptions.)

                  Indeed, it was not so much rulers at all. The local important man would have a problem with some people, and then the helpful slaver would show up with an offer to take them off his hands free of charge. By and large these were people who would otherwise have been killed, and likely killed and eaten. It was more the cattle rancher getting rid of some people who were holding a barbecue.

                • Contaminated NEET says:

                  @Cominator
                  >In Africa they don’t have much more racial solidarity with each other than whites do (or indeed Asians).

                  Yes, of course this is true. Common experience, common hardship, and above all, common enemies forge a tribe. Race is still a big part of it though, because it’s an easy basis for common enemies and common experience, and it’s an easy way to separate Us from Them. Watch that video again. All the whites are self-abasing proggies who probably hate us more than the blacks do, but having a common enemy alone isn’t enough for the blacks to accept them into the in-group.

                  I’m not trying to say all whites share a mystical bond or something retarded like that. But American whites do have a common enemy, common hardships, and common experience, and we’re in dire need of a tribe. Race will have to be a key part of that tribal identity, like it or not, because we’re surrounded by racially-based tribes that despise us. If we don’t include race as one of the bases of our in-group (necessary, but obviously not sufficient), we’re going to be infiltrated, subverted, and used by any outsider who can parrot our words.

                • Pooch says:

                  Asians would win.

                  If we go all the way to Haiti, my money is on the cartels. Their leadership has considerable white admixture and I don’t think they would have any qualms about massacring Africans en mass if need be. Hell, I’d even think about joining them although with no one to sell drugs to I’m not sure what their business model would become.

                • suones says:

                  @ContaminatedNEET

                  Race will have to be a key part of that tribal identity, like it or not, because we’re surrounded by racially-based tribes that despise us.

                  That’s a non sequitur.

                  We must eat shit, because we’re surrounded by pigs? The pigs surrounding a lion are not a threat — the main threat is the other lion right there who nominally supports the pigs.

                  The single bigggest cause of the South African negrocalypse was Judeo-Bolshevik agitation. Same with US “civil rights,” the chief villain of that being Lyndon Johnson, but Eisenhower was the same.

                  Searching for Aryan “racial consciousness” is folly. It was folly in 1937, and is folly today. Aryans need aristocracy to function.

                • The Cominator says:

                  As a kid I did not appreciate the Lion King but as an adult the Lion King shows the race issue in the right light.

                  The Hyenas (minorities that serve Scar the leftist usurper Lion) were not the real problem for the Lions the problem was the defecting traitor Lion (Scar). He let the Hyenas in as enforcers after he took over but get rid of him and they cease to be a (major) problem.

                  So it is with blacks and hispanics (and here in Florida the spics are overwhelmingly on our side anyway).

                • Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

                  >whites are wolves to other whites

                  And is that good for them?

                  There’s a normative two-step going on here and I’d like to stop folk from slipping around it.

                  So one may say ‘it is a good thing for whites to not defect on whites’; and a reply comes, ‘whites defect on whites’.

                  Yes? That is indeed what brings the former point up to begin with. Such a statement would be nonsensical if there was no such thing as the problem in the first place. It’s basically stopping halfway before arriving at a real argument.

                  Bringing a teuton on to your team of teutons is not a guarantee that he will cohere; but bringing a non-teuton on to your team of teutons *is* a guarantee that he *won’t* cohere. Being racially conscious is not by itself a sufficient condition for (europoid) cohesion; but a national church that *isn’t* also racially conscious will quickly find itself becoming neither.

                  Either formerly apex predators learn to purge the auto-phagism that knocked them out of the top spot, or they continue knocking themselves out, and get knocked of the race altogether.

                  Many such cases. Sad!

      • orochimaru says:

        well, no need to be so blackpilled. the like/dislike ratio on that video is pretty inspiring.

        • alf says:

          Wisdom of the crowd. Is nice, but nothing new under the sun. People, many people, have been complaining for years, it’s just never the people who stand to lose by their complaint. So nothing changes.

  15. Ace says:

    @Pooch

    Don’t feel bad for pumping and dumping “nice” girls. The pastor’s son in the small Evangelical church I grew up in was banging half the nice girls in the church and the girls knew they were part of his haram. Their only complaint was they couldn’t get on the rotation often enough and they sure the fuck didn’t care about the morality being preached in the church. All women are like that.

    You’re better off trying to own a woman who than to pump and dump but the reality is soon or later that nice girl you banging was going to dump you for someone more alpha. You were never going to be anything other than a notch in her belt unless you took ownership, which is extremely hard to do today.

    Now if you’re banging a virgin without intent to own… that’s the sort of shit GNON ordained the death penalty for. An unspoiled maiden is very rare and valuable thing. Frankly I thought the pastor’s son at my church should be beaten to death by their fathers but everyone seemed to willfully ignore their daughters behavior and thus his behavior.

    • Pooch says:

      They sure weren’t virgins but lower N count girls probably (no way to know for sure) who were upset and frustrated with their past beta boyfriends who worshipped them as goddesses. I was the first dude who didn’t give a fuck if they came or left and obviously they were drawn toward it. “You’re different than all the other guys I’ve met”. Guess I was sort of filling the Jeremy Meeks role for them.

      What did u mean by this “ You’re better off trying to own a woman who than to pump and dump”? Guessing a typo.

      Is there any reason why the pastors son AND the daughters shouldn’t all be beaten to death?

      • “who worshipped them as goddesses” if the woman does not worship the man as, well, not a god, but as a hero, as her own personal King or God’s representative: the priest of the family, the man will end up worshipping her as a goddess. Funny how this works. I guess because sex makes human beings, it is sort of a natural sacrament and will always have such an aspect to it. If one goes back to the very early origins of religions, there are aspects like this…

        • jim says:

          Sex magic is the oldest and most powerful magic. Goddess worship, being an inversion, is always demonic magic.

          Sacramental marriage, with the groom administering the sacrament to the bride, was intended to control this magic, and place it under God.

          The social technology used by the old upper class of Rome, sacramental marriage, was superior to the Hebrew social technology of marriage by purchase, but by the time Christianity arrived on the scene, the Roman upper class had become decadent and lost virtue and social cohesion. Christianity absorbed and preserved this social technology, along with so many others. Hence worries about “is it scriptural” are stupid. Christianity won because it is a storehouse of good social technology, some of it preserved by Moses from the early bronze age against late bronze age decadence, and some of it from other sources.

          • Pooch says:

            There seems to have been some sort of goddess worship holiness spiral going on during the final years/decades of the Roman Republic. Both Sulla and Pompey claimed special relationships with Venus. Caesar holy spiraled that further by claiming Venus as his ancestress. Unclear if Augustus shut that down completely. He did manage to raise the status of the male gods like Jupiter and Mars back up, but Hadrian’s temple to Venus in 135 AD seems to have been the biggest temple ever built to any deity.

            • The Cominator says:

              Sulla claimed a special relationship with FORTUNE (at least after what was probably a very frustrating youth as a man clearly of extremely superior ability but being born to a Patrician family where any low level work was beneath his dignity but he lacked the property to even join the legions merely as a ranker).

              Caesar claimed he was descended from Venus via Aeneas of Troy members of the gens Julia had ALWAYS claimed that.

              Most cultures thought of fortune/luck/fate as women or a group of women (because its both fickle and prone to play favorites).

            • The Cominator says:

              Sulla claimed a special relationship with FORTUNE (at least after what was probably a very frustrating youth as a man clearly of extremely superior ability but being born to a Patrician family where any low level work was beneath his dignity but he lacked the property to even join the legions merely as a ranker). Caesar claimed he was descended from Venus via Aeneas of Troy members of the gens Julia had ALWAYS claimed that. Most cultures thought of fortune/luck/fate as women or a group of women (because its both fickle and prone to play favorites)

              Jim delete the other comment I think I accidently used my old email I’m sorry…

      • Cementmixer says:

        “Is there any reason why the pastors son AND the daughters shouldn’t all be beaten to death?”

        a lot if not most guys would do the same were they in the position of the pastor’s son…

    • “The pastor’s son in the small Evangelical church I grew up in was banging half the nice girls in the church and the girls knew they were part of his haram.”

      In these cases I always wonder whether they also have/had a beta-bucks boyfriends while getting banged by him. Because if not, the other boys would wonder how comes all those girls are single, without boyfriends, it is not normal.

  16. Pooch says:

    https://www.axios.com/biden-treasury-pick-racial-wealth-gap-d501f10d-4e45-4388-aa8d-bc79b05c4b86.html

    With this the explicit non-white welfare checks in Oakland and the 2 senators refusing to confirm white appointees, they seem to be really accelerating the explicit racial anti-white policy.

    • The Cominator says:

      Sounds to me like they are going to restart the NINJA loan policies to niggers and spics with no jobs.

      Perhaps I should go into “mortgage origination” now.

      • jim says:

        In 2005 November, white speculators unloaded huge amounts of property onto people who were unaware that they were now the owner of a eight hundred thousand dollar house and a two million dollar mortgage. Entire neighborhoods went absentee mortgagee, where the straw man purchaser could not be found, and made no attempt to reside at the property he owned. Since purchaser was apt to be a homeless or near homeless no-hablo English drunken bum, one would think that if he was aware, he would show up at the house.

        Strangely, however, the mortgages continued to be flipped. Supposedly they continued to be paid off by people supposedly selling the house to people supposedly taking out a new, and even larger, mortgage. But after 2005 November, the houses had already been flipped to people who lacked the necessary skills to continue flipping. How come flipping continued? Why did these empty neighborhoods continue to be flipped at ever rising prices?

        When the dust settled it became apparent that not only had the mortgages lost connection to the person supposedly responsible for paying it off, but that they had frequently lost connection to the house – it turned out that we had an enormous pile of mortgage backed securities were not only could the mortgagee responsible for paying off the house not be found, but the house could not be found either. It seems that the final flips were conducted by bankers in New York with no connection to either house nor straw man purchaser who sought to maintain the appearance that the mortgages sold to straw man purchasers were still yielding a return, and during the flips they failed to record, and frequently did not have, the address of the house supposedly underlying the mortgage.

        I think the properties underlying the mortgage generally existed, but the people doing the flipping lost track of them, indicating that these were mass flips done somewhere far away from the properties underlying the mortgages, that after 2005 November it was no longer speculators and real estate agents who were doing the flipping, but banksters whose objective was not to sell a property at a profit, but a mortgage at a profit, and who therefore lacked interest in, and knowledge of, the actual properties, that the bankster flipped the house in order to record the mortgage as paid off, even though he could not find the straw man purchaser who supposedly owned the house, or even find the house.

        The final flips, 2006, 2007, bear fingerprints indicative of people who know a great deal about Sox compliant accounting, but nothing about land and houses. The 2005 flips bear fingerprints indicative of people who know a lot about real estate and the real estate market, sophisticated white real estate speculators.

        These anti “redlining” initiatives piously intend to target people who lack the knowledge and motivation to manage real estate and mortgages, so always wind up being co-opted by white hispanics and suchlike.

        If you want to profit from them, time to declare yourself black.

        • The Cominator says:

          How do we get in on top of this pyramid scam? Its not like we have any stake in the country anymore…

        • Anonymous 2 says:

          The final parts were, as I recall, securitization — taking a thousand
          bad mortgages, cutting them into parts, mixing the parts together and selling the resulting product as AAA rated securities, as safe as houses. Magic! Financial magic! The AAA stickers quickly fell off, I’m sorry to say.

          • jim says:

            You have the order of events reversed.

            Securitization was a perfectly reasonable way of making liquid the value represented by mortgaged homes owned by hardworking productive people paying taxes and mortgages.

            But mortgaged homes occupied by hard working productive people paying their mortgages was redlining, and redlining was immensely and horribly evil. Which led to the November 2005 situation of vast chunks of suburbia empty, the lawns unmowed, the mortgages unpaid.

            Subsequent madness, from November 2005 onwards was increasingly frantic efforts to pretend that everything was normal.

            Securitization came first, escalation in the war on redlining next, catastrophic results from the war on redlining next, and increasingly wild government unreality imposed on the mortgage backed security markets was the final stage.

            Mortgage backed securities would have been AAA if backed predominantly by good mortgages. The problem was not that mortgage backed securities went belly up. It was that vast numbers of mortgages went belly up, that entire neighborhoods went belly up, house after house empty with long grass, owned by homeless people sleeping on the streets of San Francisco, who even if they knew they owned a eight hundred thousand dollar house and three million dollar mortgage, which many of them did not, preferred San Francisco because they could steal and panhandle. The eight hundred thousand dollar house was not much use without a car, which they lacked the money to buy and competence to maintain, the en suite bathrooms useless to those disinclined to wash, the kitchen with pantry, megafridge, megastove, and vast food preparation area useless to those disinclined to prepare their own food, and lacking the future orientation required to do grocery shopping before one gets hungry.

            In a sane economic order, the catastrophe unfolding in suburbia would have been visible in a parallel catastrophe unfolding in the mortgage backed security market. But the government would not tolerate that, because the catastrophe unfolding in suburbia could not be acknowledged, so suspended the markets in an unreality bubble until 2007-2008.

            • suones says:

              Mortgage backed securities would have been AAA if backed predominantly by good mortgages. The problem was not that mortgage backed securities went belly up. It was that vast numbers of mortgages went belly up,…

              Mixing bad securities with good has long been a modus operandi of managers. I have a similar hypothesis regarding mutual funds, where fund managers would choose stocks to direct the firehose of investment not on the basis of investment quality, but on the basis of kickbacks received from the promoters. For promoters this is much better than raising new investment, because that would expose their weakness, or even seeking a loan which they wouldn’t get. For the fund manager this is A-OK as long as such securities represent a small enough fraction of the portfolio that gains in the good picks raise up the overall gains. If a downturn occurs, OTOH, and the expected winners do not pay, or pay lesser than expected, then this scheme goes to hell. Still no prosecution, of course, because politicians are also on their payroll!

              • jim says:

                The important difference was the sheer volume of bad mortgages, and the remarkable badness of those mortgages.

                What initially happened was affirmative action on credit worthiness. There were not enough responsible borrowers of the correct race, so they issued mortgages to the least bad people of the correct race. Who were not outrageously bad, but still showed up on the credit data as bums.

                But this data was racist. So they switched to “non traditional indicators of credit worthiness”, which indicators were constructed so that blacks and hispanics would score better. But these non traditional indicators were not indicators of credit worthiness, but indicators of credit unworthiness. At which point, you were getting people who lacked the interest and capability to own a house. This led to catastrophe, with entire areas of the suburbs in the Bay areas being abandoned, as the supposed owners simply preferred the sleeping on the streets lifestyle, or never realized that the fast talking realtor had sold them a house, and that the mark they had made on a pile of papers obligated them for a multimillion dollar mortgage. The typical purchaser was just not up to making a bed, or stocking the fridge in advance of getting hungry, or mowing the lawn, let alone getting a job and paying a mortgage.

                By the end of 2005 November, the white speculators had fled the market, and when they did so, there were areas where in street after street after street, almost every house was abandoned, because the nominal purchasers were just not interested in living in green leafy suburbs.

                • suones says:

                  Apropos of mortgage, I find it an extremely evil form of usurious loan. The Shariah-compliant alternative is much, much better, being inspired by Roman usage. I myself would design a hybrid alternative, leaning more towards the Shariah side rather than Jewish side.

                  Briefly, a mortgage would consist of a rental of the property with a commitment to buy at an agreed-upon price, after a certain number of years. The property is owned by the lender, and the mortgagee pays monthly rent+part payment towards eventual ownership. At the end of the term, ownership passes to the mortgagee. If the property greatly appreciates in value during the period, the mortgagee gets a windfall, but only if he sells after the end. If the property greatly depreciates in value, the mortgagee is not personally liable for any amount not already paid, and the most the lender can do is evict him. In effect, the mortgage will be a loan against the property rather than the person of the mortgagee. Lenders will be forced to honestly evaluate properties rather than suckering ill-informed “homeowners.”

                  PS: I’ve come to believe that renting is ideal in today’s society where protecting large immovable property is de-facto illegal. Only crime-lords can hold land now, and no-one else should try to.

                • jim says:

                  That is almost exactly Christian lending – you can lend money at interest against productive property, but not against persons. You can lend money against the person, as in buy now, pay later, but late repayments have to be a loss, not a profit center, so no interest on late payments, so no incentive to grant buy now pay later to people that are likely to get in trouble doing it.

                  Interest income is sanctified by being derived from the productive use of capital. There has to be a nexus with the wise application of capital to its highest and best use. So no interest on loans against the person.

                • Anonymous 2 says:

                  I assume the homeless home owners you describe were cut-outs for some more well-heeled party who wanted to gamble on the bubble with other people’s money.

                • jim says:

                  Nah. Sometimes that happened, but the big thing that happened in 2005 was as follows:

                  Everyone, white and brown, was speculating on houses because bums were getting free money to buy them. So prices could only go up even further, right?

                  Then the prices got too high, and word about the nature of the mortgages backing the mortgage backed securities got around, and there was a sudden rush to get out of mortgage backed securities, immediately followed by sudden rush by speculators to unload their houses – sometimes, often, on a no-hablo-english drunken wetback they fished out of the gutter near Home Depot with a bottle of whiskey. Primarily the rush was white speculators, because they were more aware of what was happening in the mortgage backed security market.

                  The bums represented a way for the speculator to abandon both the overpriced house, and the even more overpriced mortgage.

                  People had been willing to gamble recklessly on the housing boom because they knew there was an escape hatch – and then suddenly everyone rushed out the escape hatch – seeing one flee, all fled. Where I lived there was street after street in which most houses been abandoned, because overpriced and overmortgaged, and because a formerly pleasant neighborhood had been overrun by unpleasant people. That was not typical, but it was not rare either.

  17. Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

    Watching a senile geriatric get dragged onto a stage to stumble around is a distinctly uncomfortable experience.

    • Ace says:

      They’re working hard to justify the Ho taking over. Joe’s got some legitimacy, some people actually voted for him. No one voted “I want to watch the world Burn” Harris, not even in the primaries.

      Reading history it often seems crazy that insane people become monarchs of places like Rome, but from watching Harris’s rise it’s clear that insane people only get there because the people around them are using them.

      • Pooch says:

        Harris to me represents the Jewish faction of the left. She is likely a proxy for her Jewish husband.

        • jim says:

          Harris acts and sounds like a single woman who has hit the wall, which leads me to suspect her husband is a eunuch househusband, that she married in order to seem less like a single woman who has hit the wall.

          • nils says:

            Jim, to me this is looking a lot like the lead up to the left going all in on purging itself, I dont see any old guard to stand in the way, would you bet it goes ugly on the left vanguardists(infighting) soon or they hold it together and trade collapses first? I cannot figure out which and my mind tells me they wont go full commie but my gut says they will go full commie with prejudice real quickly.

            • jim says:

              The deep state think they can stand in the way.

              I don’t think that they can, but on the other hand they put the kibosh on war with Russia quickly and effectively, which surprised me.

              If they succeed, which I do not expect, they are still a bunch of old people with one foot in the grave riding a wild bunch of considerably younger left radicals who want to purge them and each other, so the best they can do is hold off the deluge for a bit longer.

              But I doubt that they will hold off the deluge for very long at all.

              • Nils says:

                Does the deep state not recruit from within? Or are they not capable/willing to keep the lefties from infiltrating their own institutions?

                • jim says:

                  Lacking cohesion, have to form alliances/conspiracies in the power struggle within the deep state, and between the deep state and other elements of the state.

                  Beyond a certain scale, alliances/conspiracies need a religion, which always some heresy within the state religion. Normally a heresy that claims to be the true state religion, only even truer, because the regular state religion is not holy enough.

                  And here we are.

          • alf says:

            Did some research, Kamala met her husband in 2014, at the ripe age of fifty. No kids of her own. So yes, very plausible explanation.

            • The Cominator says:

              Its quite probable they were ordered to marry by their handlers.

              • Pooch says:

                Yeah that’s why I think she’s controlled by the Jews.

                • The Cominator says:

                  “The jews” are not a cohesive group (this group has been over what the jews are and are not 1000x times). Its possible the order came from Soros or Schumer or some very high ranking cathedral jew.

                  I don’t think Soros really gives orders though except in transmittal from truly hidden people who outrank him, Soros is a frontman.

                • suones says:

                  “The jews” are not a cohesive group.

                  A distinction that makes no difference. “Nationalistic” Jews are almost exclusively to be found in Israel now, and even there they’re under attack. “American” Jew (hah!) == prog Jew so much as makes no difference.

                • jim says:

                  Sixteen percent of Jews (mostly nationalists) voted for Trump.

                  The ones that voted for Biden are not voting for Jewish power. They are voting for holiness.

                  Hence the joke “What is the big difference between Trump and his Jewish opponents?

                  “He has Jewish grandchildren, and they don’t”

                • suones says:

                  Sixteen percent of Jews (mostly nationalists) voted for Trump.

                  So did 8% of blacks (even more if you just consider black men). So what? Also, really facile to compare Jews with blacks, but the former have way outsized political influence than the latter. 84% of Jews did not vote for Trump, despite his sucking circumcised cock at every opportunity.

                  “He has Jewish grandchildren, and they don’t”

                  Said “Jewish grandchildren” will soon be trannies. Hoping for “natalistic victory” is a retarded strategy when progs control the entire child-brainwashing apparatus, and most women. Progs recruit our children to fight against us. They don’t need to have children of their own. Oh, and this “feature” that children take their mother’s religion, is diabolical Semitism. Trump’s grand children are not really Jews lol. But Trump still got shit tested by his daughter and failed.

                • Dave says:

                  “Progs recruit our children to fight against us.”

                  It’s a contest between memetic religion, which grows by conversion, and genetic religion, which grows by natural reproduction. The memetic hare easily outruns the genetic tortoise, but ultimately loses the race when all the people still breeding are genetically immune to its memes.

                  Whoever’s still around in the year 2200 will have a patriarchal attitude toward women and a shoot-on-sight attitude toward diversity.

        • Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

          They each all think they have an angle over each and all; and all will each find themselves surprised. The only consistent direction it can go is to greater chaos.

      • jim says:

        The problem is that when the evil and/or insane get installed in power, it is because rather too many people hope to use them.

        The results are unpredictable, and frequently startling.

      • onyomi says:

        I keep seeing this suggestion: “they put in geriatric Biden so they could replace him with their preferred brown Hillary, preferably in 2 years and a day,” but I’m not sure it makes that much sense to me in that Kamala, unlike Hillary, strikes me as something of non-entity way out of her depth. That is, with Biden president, Harvard, Silicon Valley, NYT, and their disciples can run the show while he provides a rubber stamp, but with Kamala as POTUS… Harvard, Silicon Valley, NYT, and their disciples could run the show with her providing the rubber stamp… no?

        • jim says:

          Hillary was way out of her depth, but seemed, to progressives, plausibly capable, because she was successfully running the Clinton crime family, while Kamala Harris is being run.

      • The Cominator says:

        There were probably only two truly mad Roman Emperors, Caligula and Elagabalus both of whom inherited it and both of whom probably only went mad after they became Emperor (Caligula was almost certainly sane when he came to power it seemed like he suffered some kind of epiletic brain damage after he took the throne). A lot of other ones seemed cruely insane but you have to keep in mind that the Roman throne was generally a very insecure position.

        The Emperor’s who were truly installed by the guard or something with the idea they could be used (Cladius was the 1st) those Emperor’s never displayed any real signs of madness.

        • Glot says:

          In 2020 a brilliant book partially about Elagabalus (in the sense that Master and Margarita is partially about Jesus) came out by Pelevin.
          https://f.fantasy-worlds.org/lib/id30919/
          Too bad they stopped translating him into English after he went off the reservation. His recent stuff like iPhuck and Art of Light Touch were excellent, and prophetic to boot. Like a Slavic Michel Houellebecq with heavy Zen & anti-GloboHomo leanings.
          At least his Empire V got translated. Now they’re kind of pretending it doesn’t exist, but it’s available for free on places like graycity
          https://graycity.net/victor-pelevin/221554-empire_v.html

    • Ace says:

      If a woman cannot take responsibility for bad decisions, then how can she be allowed to make important decisions? It just simply does not make any sense. You cannot have responsibility without accountability. Those two things have to be connected.

      Emotional thinking, accepting this narrative of victimhood, leads to this behavior pattern continuing in generations of girls. The entire purpose of punishing crime that has already been committed is to prevent future crime from occurring. It’s not about revenge.

      That’s some really good stuff.

    • Chesterton's Cat says:

      I particularly liked this concrete example of why it is a bad idea to mess with things you don’t understand.

      https://dailystormer.su/australia-committed-a-cat-genocide-and-now-has-a-plague-of-mice/

    • suones says:

      The Paki “grooming gang” scandal was my breaking point with the “far right” cucks. As much as I hate Pakis (being mostly sons of traitors and whores taken by conquering Muslims), this was certainly one occasion where they were unfairly blamed. In Pakistan 14-year-old girls get married off and none of this “grooming gang” nonsense happens, despite Pakistan being overall much more lawless than UK. It must indicate something is wrong with UK society, rather than Paki men. Anglin had a similar falling out over the Weinstein conviction, so at least we’re on the same side now. Needless to say, weev was right about this stuff… https://dailystormer.su/just-what-are-traditional-gender-roles/

  18. ananon says:

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  19. linker says:

    Hey Jim et al, do you know anything about endocrine disruptors or xenoestrogens? They have been in the news lately and seem very terrifying because it’s almost impossible to avoid them. Seems like legit science but a 3 things make me skeptical 1. U-shaped dose response curve sounds like bullshit 2. scientists by their nature are slightly biased against man-made environmental explanations like this and heavily biased to avoid putting the blame on soy, obesity, feminism, dysgenics, 5G, GMOs, chemtrails, etc. 3. I’m quite masculinized but I can’t think of any particular way that my parents raised me to be exposed to less xenoestrogens than anyone else.

    Also what’s your general take on why testosterone and sperm counts are dropping?

    • The Ducking Man says:

      Extreme xenoestrogens cases can be physically apparent like man boob, tendency speak in high pitch, overall lack of muscle tone, and feminine mentality. Cases like the Try Guys and soy boys usually posing as comic books fan, gamers, etc.

      Those are extreme cases for God knows why. Probably excessive soy intake and xenoestrogen substance during their childhood development.

      But for most people like us, simple answer why general population have sperm count drop is due to sedentary lifestyle, high body fat, and too much masturbation.

    • jim says:

      Male hormones and sperm production are dropping like a stone, and at the same time females are getting higher female hormones and bigger boobs.

      While I see on television supplemental female hormones being promoted to women, and doctors getting in trouble for “over” prescribing testosterone, even though just about every modern male could do with a fair bit more than he has.

      If I had my druthers, would apply hormone blockers to every female until it is time for puberty – female puberty is getting earlier and earlier, frequently disturbingly, disruptively, and inconveniently early, while male puberty is not, and when male puberty happens, appears to be taking longer. And no one is allowed to notice very young girls causing very big problems.

      We know that defeat lowers testosterone, and victory increases. I therefore expect that a society hostile to males and masculinity lowers it.

      • The Cominator says:

        “If I had my druthers, would apply hormone blockers to every female until it is time for puberty – female puberty is getting earlier and earlier, while male puberty is not.”

        I normally agree for you but this is probably a bad idea… if anything modern women have too high testosterone.

        • jim says:

          Well obviously adult women have too high testosterone (or rather excess androgens, frequently causing fertility problems, pimples, and abnormal menses), and maybe having historically high levels of estrogen is fine, but what I was addressing is that female children frequently start having historically high levels of sex hormones at a very early age and start causing problems, while boys are taking longer and longer to grow up.

          The only way you can get prescription against excess female androgens is as a pimple remedy, even though abnormal androgen levels are increasingly causing no end of physical problems in women. The state wants higher sex hormones, both androgens and estrogens, in females, and lower sex hormones in males.

      • Jsd says:

        What would you suggest to young men who have testosterone in the low/ mid range 5-600

        • jim says:

          Obviously raise it.

          Fitness and exercise helps a lot. Combat sports help.

          Injecting testosterone works great, but is likely to suppress your lutropin, which is extremely bad, so you have to take regular breaks from it for your lutropin to recover.

          • Karl says:

            Nutrition is also important. Eat eggs, meat, and/or fish. Avoid soy and drink wine rather than beer.

          • Pooch says:

            Specifically lift heavy weights. Also get Vitamin D by sunlight and supplement it if you can’t and lose fat if you are overweight.

          • Jsd says:

            Already lifting and all of that. Should go the route of test/ androgel type stuff? Would a TRT clinic be open to treatment at that level? Or just buy test C off the web

            • jim says:

              Androgel does not work very well, and will get all over your women with disastrous consequences.

              I really hate needles, but it is the only thing that works.

              You can find the right doctor, but the state keeps finding helpful doctors and punishing them so that they stop being so helpful. I followed both routes simultaneously, the helpful doctor and the grey and black markets.

              If you are using exogenous testosterone, you need to keep an eye on your lutropin levels. Prolonged periods of low lutropin can castrate you temporarily, and if long enough, permanently.

              Taking exogenous testosterone is apt to increase your estrogen. High estrogen in men is very bad, low estrogen in men is very bad, and estrogen that goes up and down rather than remaining stable is very bad. Women, on the other hand, thrive with highly variable estrogen levels. Men do not. If taking exogenous testosterone, need to take something to control (but not crash) your estrogen levels.

              For a woman, her estrogen should regularly drop to near zero and then regularly skyrocket, but for some reason the state does not like this biological state in women, any more than it likes men having normal testosterone and sperm production. The state wants to impose physical androgeny, and is coercively pressuring the medical profession to eradicate biological differences in hormone levels. High stable estrogen in women results in disturbingly manly women and impairs fertility, as low stable testosterone and high estrogen in men results in disturbingly effeminate men and impairs fertility.

              The state keeps redefining “normal” testosterone for men downwards, and minimum stable estrogen levels in women upwards. Men and women are supposed to be interchangeable, and the medical profession is under high and increasing pressure to make them interchangeable.

              • Karl says:

                In suspect that in medical parlance “normal” simply means “average”.

                No man in his right mind wants to be average among sick and dying people, but if you deviate from average they’ll treat you to become average.

                • jim says:

                  If “normal” keeps being redefined, one of those “normals” has to represent widespread “normal” levels of sickness and dysfunction.

                  Today’s average hormone levels result in sexual disfunction. I would call that an epidemic of abnormality, with 1950s being normal, or at least substantially less abnormal.

                • Karl says:

                  Quite possible that they are redefing “normal”, but I rather suspect that the older medical literature would talk about “healthy” levels, whereas the modern literature talkes about “normal” levels.

                  “Normal” and “healthy” have never been synonyms.

    • linker says:

      Slightly biased *for* man-made environmental explanations I meant

  20. The Christian position should be understood as not “No sex before marriage”, but rather as the old Hebrew position. “No serial monogamy for women” – that once a chick has sex with a man, she is stuck with him, and he with her.

    In the context of the Red Pill and Evolutionary Game Theory, the Christian/Old Hebrew position should be read as “No endless shopping for the most alpha semen available”.

    The Old Testament presupposes an absolute property right of males in female reproductive, sexual, and domestic services. New Testament clamps down on the transferability of that right.

    The typical modern Christian response to this, even Protestants who insist on KJV, is that it’s never okay to hit a woman, and when given OT justification they usually fall back on “Jesus came to replace the old law” or something similar. It doesn’t help that most don’t believe in evolution either, thus don’t understand game theory and are usually offended if you try to bring it up. Mentioning Paul usually invites sophistry in order to misinterpret what he’s very clearly saying.

    I get this from relatives all the time. I don’t particularly care about Christianity outside of the potential for game-theoretic cooperation (which requires the OT), but I do care about family members who subscribe to a Lifetime movie version of Christianity. Most of this stuff is very unpalatable to normie Christians: Roissy too hard, Dalrock probably too soft. Have you considered doing a longform post outlining a proper interpretation of Christianity? I know you’ve addressed this before but they’re spread out over a thousand comments. It might be instructive for someone to collect verses from the OT or about Pauline marriage in the proper context.

    • jim says:

      I did a long form post on the good Samaritan: How to Genocide Inferior Kinds in a Properly Christian Manner

      But a long form post on game, christianity, chastity, marriage, civilization, and evolutionary game theory sounds more necessary.

      As you say, it is spread all over the comments. Need to concisely summarize the family law of the Old and New Testaments and show them to be harmonious with each other and consistent with natural law as understood through the lens of evolutionary psychology, game, evolutionary game theory, and recent historical experience.

      I loved the title “How to genocide inferior kinds in a properly Christian manner”

      I need a title that concisely signals the shock value of the rest of the article.

      • Karl says:

        “Means and reasons to enslave women in a properly Christian manner” would have some shock value

      • simplyconnected says:

        How to subdue your woman like God intended.

      • Wulfgar Thundercock III says:

        On The Care and Beating of Women

      • Anonymous says:

        “She just wants to know her place.”

      • Aidan says:

        “How to get away with domestic abuse the way Christ intended”

      • Contaminated NEET says:

        Going back and rereading the comments on that one makes me miss peppermint. What ever happened to him?

        • Ace says:

          Shaman ripped him several new assholes over the women question and he left.

          Realistically the right has gone from defeat to defeat and many have dropped out as we continue to lose. The right always wins in the end, but that victory looks more and more like the victory of the patriarchy over the bronze age civilizations where small numbers patriarchal nomads grazed their flocks in shadow the ruins of mighty cities and in the abounded fields of the farmers who’d consumed themselves in an orgy of socialism and demon worship.

        • Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

          Sham was usually a good poster but i will never forgive him for bullying peppermint-chan.

          • Ace says:

            Ironically it was Shaman who later raged out over some bullshit. I think bullying can be good to grow toughness but Shaman went out like bitch.

            That being said, I liked both of them a lot.

            • Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

              The way i’d describe it is there are right ways and wrong ways to engage in repartee between fellows, and that was an example of wrong ways.

              In the end his jew instincts to purge a not so predisposed notjew were stronger than his sense of decorum, but such is the way of the world. As soon as an outlet for those instincts appeared, he jumped on it fullthroatedly.

              An uninformed observer would get an impression that they weren’t fellow travelers at all, but someone looking to wage war on an alien partisan whom no commensurability is expected or possible; which, on a more fundamental level, you could say is even true; and thus hence springing the issue.

  21. The Cominator says:

    https://www.politico.com/news/2021/03/23/tammy-duckworth-biden-cabinet-477676

    Top kek the holy ones are fighting. If this gets going early and bad enough it will save us.

    • Pooch says:

      Haha finally some good news.

      • jim says:

        Not very good news at all.

        We need them to start killing each other rather than merely arguing in a civilized manner over the division of the loot.

        State sponsored nominally private violence proved highly effective in rigging the election.

        What we need is for leftists to start using it on other leftists in the quarrels over the loot.

        • The Cominator says:

          Squabbling over jobs in the Senate is the beginning of that.

        • Pooch says:

          My prediction is they use violence to intimidate the moderate Dems to remove the filibuster. Is this a good outcome for us? On the surface, removing the filibuster seems very very bad for us.

          • jim says:

            Normality bias.

            You, and they, think legality still matters, that laws still matter.

            The shared delusion that paper money has value creates the reality that paper money has value, but under current circumstances, the shared delusion that laws matter is unlikely to create the reality of laws mattering.

  22. @Pseudo-Chrysostom RE: https://blog.reaction.la/uncategorized/fixed-privacy-leak-in-avatars/#comment-2711514

    Yeah, that makes sense. I really like Alrenous’ framework that the popular ideas are fossils of past power grabs. You see there are libs in Slovakia bitching about schools segregating gypsies. Because segregation is universally wrong everywhere in all times. Because Kennedy 55 years ago wanted to show the governor of Alabama who has the bigger dick, by showing he cannot segregate blacks from the state university, and he did it by enacting a Civil Rights Law that made it illegal to segregate anyone in all US states for all the foreseeable time, which got reinterpreted as segregrating anyone all over the planet is just wrong. Because if it is not universally and absolutely wrong, then for the modern it cannot be wrong in a given time and place and thus Kennedy would have not have a stick to whack Alabama with.

    You make sense. The only perfectly accurate map of Earth is another planet, a carbon-copy of this one, different only in its location in perhaps another solar system.

    You see, if I want to be charitable, attributing things to incompetence, not malice, and I really tried for two decades, then I would say all this is just an anti-authoritarian attitude, moderns are afraid that someone might have the authority to actually make his own judgement, decide on the exception, make a decision based not on an automatic interpretation of rules but his own judgement. Moderns are just afraid of capricious tyrants, like Xerxes. That is the charitable view. Hence they want automatisms. [1]

    But there are issues with such charity. First, Boyle’s experimental method is also not authoritarian, while climate change consensus is. Second, they really are using it selectively.

    So it seems I gotta be uncharitable and say it is meant to be really a universal solvent of ideas to be used selectively, against their enemies, not against their friends.

    [1] My job is writing business logic code, sort of writing business rules into algorithms. It is funny, because it sounds like these modern Cartesian “automatists” have basically invented what I do, basically they have invented software code. Law, a state purely running on law, a legal machinery, is a state running on software code. Or a universe running on pure math. Same thing. Writing law and writing code, especially business logic code, are very similar things. IF Purchase_Order > $5000 THEN a manager must approve it.

    And of course it fails. Leaky abstractions, really. Joel Spolsky was a genius before he was an SJW. Just as you said. Our abstractions must leak because we are not God.

    And of course you know what my solution is. The same as the monarchical one. That I allow a sysadmin to make special exceptions and override the code. He is not the king, the CEO is, but the CEO is not going to log in the software and do it, he is living half his life flying to places. But if the sysadmin overrides without the CEO’s permission, he deserves what he gets.

    Nothing works without arbitrarily decided exceptiosn. Thus nothing is ever zero trust. Everybody who thinks crypto is zero trust gets his DAO-hack overruled by Vitalik.

    Some trust is irreducible. Automatists want zero-trust systems but some trusts are irreducible. In my case, it is the CEO clearly defining which IT guy gets the trust.

    There are other options. I think Jim’s feudal anarchy crypto is one.

    • suones says:

      …capricious tyrants, like Xerxes.

      Xerxes the Great was not a capricious tyrant. Alexander the Great, however, was a gayfag.

      Hence they want automatisms.

      I use the term “golem.” We want glamim (called “automatons” more genrally). The reasaon for that is simple — peasants are by nature unruly, and a highly trained peasant suddenly defecting on his Lord is a severe loss that may be unrecoverable. When Kings forbade Lords from disciplining their peasants to keep them loyal, every peasant became as a Lord unto himself. We had no choice but to shift the duty onto machines while leaving the peasants to fend for themselves.[1] Once the Great Golem of Iron and Steam was unleashed, it was very clear that peasantry would soon be a thing of the past, for unlike a peasant, a golem will never, ever, betray you under any circumstances (exploding boilers don’t count as betrayal). Peasants responded by, first Luddism, then increasingly complex movements directed at mooching off the Great Golem of Iron and Steam, orchestrated by envious elites. These movements gave us the “welfare state” and idiocy like “noblesse oblige” or even the foolishness in these comments that we “owe” the traitorous Vaisyas and/or peasants anything, because we ‘need’ their “votes.” What disloyal peasants/Vaisyas need is Comination, just the same as the elite Brahmins they answer to and the Warriors who won’t fight them.

      A Golem is the equal of ten peasants. Ten Glamim are the equal of an Army. Three hundred Glamim can conquer a planet.[2]

      [1]: This, btw, is the explanation for why the Ancients didn’t invent the Industrial Revolution despite having the technological capability — they simply had no need, because their peasants were hardworking and docile, and were rewarded with wives and many children.

      [2]: For a more visceral experience, watch the Mandalorian’s fight with a Golem Dark Trooper. It was incredibly red-pilling. Humans who get to war-capable Golems first will utterly dominate the others.

      PS: inb4 Golem can never replace “human judgement” — but Golem can replace a goy, who has no judgement to speak of. And there’re a LOT of goyim employed in useless make-work. CEO+sysadmin+Mainframe can replace an office-full of fools.

  23. Ace says:

    Why the push to tie the endless black attacks on Asians as white supremacy? Every Asian that interacts with blacks knows the score. Such attacks have just been ignored for the last 30+ years.

    • Pooch says:

      My guess is the attacks have increased more (from lack of policing) and that they needed to spin it to prevent defection of Asians from the Prog coalition.

    • Aidan says:

      Not true. Asians who still have a ching chong accent and speak broken english all hate blacks. Asians born and raised here, who speak impeccable English, are rabid leftists. The divide is that simple.

      • Pooch says:

        Asians born and raised here, who speak impeccable English, are rabid leftists.

        Right and these are the Asians who don’t ever interact with blacks in their day to day life. When they see videos of people who look like their parents being violently assaulted by Africans, they need to understand it’s still the fault of evil whitey.

        • Aidan says:

          Asians are good conformists who know who the inner party is. They wont break from the progressive coalition, even if in private they live in a way completely hypocritical to progressive values. In any Chinatown in any major western city, there is very little black crime and no black vagrants, though they support the Party in public. If we win, the Chinese in America who are not active spies will all be wearing cowboy hats and flannel, and toting guns.

          • suones says:

            > If we win
            > Chinese still in America
            😂

          • Pooch says:

            Interestingly enough, Trump did win 34% of the Asian vote. There is some leakage there for the Dems, which may partially explain the latest propaganda push.

        • orochimaru says:

          > Right and these are the Asians who don’t ever interact with blacks in their day to day life.
          hmm, dunno about that. I have seen Asians cheerfully go along with leftie/proggie narratives about badwhites being the root of all evil even after being given obvious examples of blacks misbehaving.

      • orochimaru says:

        > Asians who still have a ching chong accent and speak broken english all hate blacks. Asians born and raised here, who speak impeccable English, are rabid leftists. The divide is that simple.
        Indeed. (Assuming you meant *East* Asians.)
        however, when we seize absolute power we can expect the full support of those who now piously preach progressivism.
        East Asians back the dominant power.

      • onyomi says:

        I added this as a throwaway joke, but actually I’m pessimistic it’s true; rather, it seems that actual objective numbers, facts, etc. like the objective fact that Asians are discriminated against in college admissions, have little impact on pop cultural narratives of the sort Asian Americans also absorb once they become assimilated.

        Since Wuflu began I’ve noticed that, among other things, it’s been taken as a chance to promote the “Asians are oppressed by evil racists in America, too” line. Whether or not actual incidents of e.g. hurling abuse at Asians on the streets due to Wuflu went up, I’m not sure, but regardless it seems well calculated to ensure that Asian Americans side with the rainbow coalition against whitey, despite the fact that, outside the Princeton admissions office, it’s obviously not white people disproportionately victimizing Asians.

        That said, I’m kind of optimistic in an accelerationist sort of way at this point each time a new, less plausible front gets opened in the culture war. In particular, there is a lot of complaining about all the tranny stuff in right wing circles recently for obvious reasons, but I actually am kind of glad they’re picking that hill to die on on some level? Because it’s reached such an obviously grotesque and bizarre level and also clearly throws under the bus a previously oppressed class (women) that I would guess its redpill normy value is higher to us than its cultural value is to our enemies.

    • Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

      >Why the push to tie the endless black attacks on Asians as white supremacy?

      Same reason to try to tie *anything* going on that looks unbellyfeel to ‘white supremacy’.

      • Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

        To be less glib, coronahoax is what makes the difference.

        Before, if they were to publish the stories about cases where asians are getting attacked, it would raise the inevitable question: attacked by whom?

        Which would of course be a very uncomfortable question to answer; same reason why they don’t publish stories about attacks against europoids. Or, for that matter, the same reason why they do not really publish the innumerable stories about *blacks* getting attacked daily either. Because the number one attacker of blacks, is blacks.

        With coronahoax in play though, when they say ‘asians are getting attacked’, they will then also say, ‘and this is because of evil racists being dumb bigots for no reason because china flu’, and hope that discourages anyone from insisting on asking more uncomfortable questions. (Which most are well conditioned not to.)

        This priesthood never gives sermons about all the dogs biting men, they will only ever preach about the time a man bit a dog. They are moby dick, and the unicorn of white on [not white] violence is their white whale – that which populates their world with naught else but; that which they search for tirelessly, any where and any time it could be found; or, any where and any time it can be fabricated, as the case may be.

        (Incidentally, blacks themselves are not really ‘bothered’ by black-on-black violence. They may may certainly *dislike* the lawless chaos, but it is in a similar sense to how one may dislike and complain about some immutable fact of life that causes trouble for you, like an inhospitable environment. This kind of apathy can be seen even in more self-aware personages of bantu extraction, like the writers of The Boondocks.

        When it is someone who is *not black* that violates the blackNAP though, it provokes an atavistic psychic fury; because it is, quite appropriately, sensed as not an ‘internal’ problem, but a *racial* threat.

        Basically what they really want is for the deputies to kill off the trayvons to be fellow blacks too.)

  24. Anonymous Fake says:

    [*deleted*]

    • jim says:

      I deleted your comment because too insane to bother fisking: you are arguing that leftism is actually right wing, and whites are being genocided by not letting them be sufficiently left.

      Nah, not how we are being genocided. They are genociding us the old fashioned way.

      • Anonymous Fake says:

        [*deleted*]

        • jim says:

          No, not housing costs etcetera, genocide. You are giving us the formulaic repetitious left wing diagnosis of denial, which we have all heard before far too many times.

          It is genocide.

          Group B gets driven out of their homes, as for example Detroit and Ferguson – which is not “housing costs” but war. Housing is not expensive. Housing where black people will not drop in to beat up your wife and kids is expensive.

          Education is expensive because the priesthood decides your children have never had enough preaching by the priesthood. Which is not genocide, but prevents reproduction in the same way that traditional genocide through denying people collective defense of their property against collective threats has.

          Group B then finds it difficult to reproduce. Which is genocide.

          The solution is not socialist housing, which in practice is always greatly accelerated genocide, terrifyingly accelerated genocide. Look at any old government housing project. After thirty years or so looks like the aftermath of a war, and those remaining look like they lost that war. It was a war, and they are among the losers.

          Nor “free education”, which just means more jobs for priests, and keeping children out of productive work and marital reproduction for ever longer.

          The solution is enforceable apprenticeship and collective defense against collective threats.

          • Anonymous Fake says:

            Explain South Korea then, ground zero for how modern neoliberalism destroys its victims. Housing and education bubbles and a collapsing population pyramid, and no American style racial conspiracy theories required to explain it. They don’t even have world renowned education when you think about it, but the problem is that capitalists do not communicate fairly with students in school what careers are going to make them rich employees. It’s the capitalists here, not the priests, who are the problem that must be addressed. And my model states that capitalists are deliberately encouraging a perverted economic order because they are sex deviants who think 80-100 hour elite work weeks are normal behavior and they have no family to return to. They get what they want because they have money, even though money increasingly becomes disconnected from the reality of a collapsing society.

            • jim says:

              Housing costs in South Korea realistically reflects lack of land. Housing costs in America reflects a one sided race war. But it is not the cost of housing that is having the big adverse impact on reproduction in South Korea.

              The education bubble, the priesthood, is adversely affecting reproduction badly, there as here, in the same way there as here, but the primary problem in South Korea is the destruction of patriarchy. If you cannot own your wife and children, why invest in them?

              That is the major problem here also, but when people say “education and housing”, they are denying what makes education and housing expensive in the US.

              And what makes housing expensive in the US is a one sided race war.

              White Americans do not have property rights in their houses, nor their wives, nor their children. South Koreans do have property rights in their houses, but not their wives and their children.

              > is that capitalists do not communicate fairly with students in school what careers are going to make them rich employee

              The problem is that capitalists should not be forced to recruit people into careers from university at all. We need enforceable apprenticeship. No university educations should make anyone a rich employee.

              And, in practice, none does. All richly rewarded careers are primarily self taught, and the degree fails to give to employer any re-assurance that the new graduate will be capable of doing the job. Observe the number of starving lawyers and useless idiots with computer science degrees.

              There is a weak connection between taking the right course, and actually getting into a high paid carrier. Universities are putting far too many people through courses that in theory lead to high paid careers, and fewer and fewer of those people are actually competent to pursue those careers. Looks like ninety nine percent of accounting graduates cannot actually do accounting. Waste of their time, waste of the employer’s time.

              Should the evil capitalist overlords tell even more people to take accounting?

              • Anonymous Fake says:

                [*deleted*]

                • jim says:

                  Unresponsive. I put out an argument for reducing universities back to their traditional size – where very few people, and very few members of the elite, were university graduates, where being a university graduate did not count for anything much, where science was not run or funded through the universities, nor performed by people accredited by universities. And you just ignored that argument and sailed right on with double the confidence.

                  The bloated universities reflect rule by Harvard, and Harvard needs to be overthrown.

              • “Looks like ninety nine percent of accounting graduates cannot actually do accounting.”

                Looks like a certain percent of IT graduates not only cannot code, they cannot understand the requirements behind coding.

                Right now I am arguing with the support team of $MEGACORP. Their UI allows users to copy-paste characters that are invalid in XML into the UI. Like the Unicode U+0002 start-of-text. Their API, that tries to deliver this in XML crashes the fuck down when reading such characters.

                Support team thinks it is entirely okay behavior. After all it is invalid XML. Why should it not crash?

                I am struggling to explain them the very simple thing that any valid, as in, accepted user input should not result in crashing their API. They are not getting it. Why? It is not valid XML so why not? Their tiny brains are entirely wrapped around XML legislation.

                I am struggling to explain them they either must limit what the UI accepts or filter these shit out before they construct their XML in the API. They are just honestly not getting why.

                I don’t think in their world users should know what valid XML characters are and never copy-paste them in.

                I think in their tiny brains the concept of a whole system, just does not fit. They cannot really imagine this whole system, that it is a reasonable expectation that the user should be able to enter any data that the UI allows, because it is the UI’s job to tell them not to enter wrong data, and any data the UI allows should never crash the API.

                They just cannot think this broadly. All they see is this API is XML so it does not accept invalid XML, okay. Does not accept means: crashes the fuck down when the user managed to copy-paste these data in.

                More and more of this industry is characterized by the frustration of dealing with such retardedness.

                Can someone give me advice, beyond the obvious like not to deal with $MEGACORP?

                • jim says:

                  > I think in their tiny brains the concept of a whole system, just does not fit. They cannot really imagine this whole system

                  Exactly so. We have big systems. Big systems are hard.

                  This is the O-ring effect. If you have one dud on team, the whole team fails. The smart people on the team have to exclude him – which is not allowed if colored or female, and leads to disturbing and disruptive drama if female (blacks are considerably less of a problem, and gays just don’t show up).

                  And if you have a dud team in a bunch of teams, the whole bunch of teams will fail. So one team that cannot be excluded, that has one dud member that cannot be excluded, the whole project fails.

                  The solution is social. You need a team leader that can exclude the dud team member, and a CEO that can exclude the dud team. And if you have a team leader that cannot exclude the dud team member, you probably have a CEO that cannot exclude the dud team – usually because racism and sexism, sometimes because there is a power play in progress between programming and accounting, and accounting tells the board that if they do not get their way, there will be trouble with the state over the corporate accounts.

                  Accounting does not like tech status, so wants second rate dot indian programmers on board, and then appeals to HR because racism.

                  > Can someone give me advice, beyond the obvious like not to deal with $MEGACORP?

                  No.
                  The corporate form is broken, because too many stakeholders now have a finger in the pie. We need to recreate the corporate form on the blockchain. In the mean time, abandon hope that $MEGACORP can get its act together.

                  This is why we cannot have nice things any more, such as nuclear reactors or silicon foundries. Because accounting is backed by the state against the shareholders, legal is backed by state and judges against the shareholders, and HR is a hostile tentacle of the state embedded in your office. So you cannot exclude the dud team member and fire the dud team. The corporation’s corporateness, its cohesion, is getting eaten by the priesthood. Their separate corporateness is dissolving into a single gigantic monolithic dysfunctional very holy priesthood and into the regulatory state. Increasingly conflicts within the corporation are now one tentacle of the vast corporate state fighting another tentacle of the vast corporate state with the board and the shareholders dismayed and irrelevant.

                  Cohesion is hard, and gets a lot harder when certain employees within the corporation have an external powerbase outside the corporation, and hostile to it.

                  Used to be, when I was a lad, the main problem was that your purchasing officer was apt to be far too friendly with certain suppliers and your union organizer was breaking the legs of the wrong people. Then it came to pass that the main problem was that your legal department was hanging out with the judge and the other guy’s lawyers. These days the main problem is HR, with accounting coming close.

                • Well, there is one solution. I am fairly new at this job, having worked with a different $MEGACORP before, and I am learning from my boss. He does the same thing what Robert Heinlein did when touristing in the Soviet Union and got stupid unresponsive answers from low-ranking bureaucrats. He yells at them rudely, which is really out of character, but works, eventually they get tired of it and escalate the difficult customer one level up to their boss to get rid of him and the boss is usually at least somewhat smarter.

                  This seems to be a good “personal social technology” in our times. We tend to be polite people, but we have to learn to yell “This is a bullshit answer that makes no sense, give me a solution!” to retards in order to get escalated up to their hopefully smarter bosses.

                • “In the mean time, abandon hope that $MEGACORP can get its act together.”

                  I have identified two open source alternatives to $MEGACORP business software fifteen years ago, one is https://www.odoo.com/ and the other is dead. For fifteen years, I was preparing to jump into open source once the conditions are right. The conditions are never right, because brand name is all that matters. Because “no one ever got fired for buying IBM”.

                  I keep struggling with $MEGACORP and while holding my irons in the fire once the $MEGACORP brand name will not have this magic effect and I could make the jump to open source.

                • jim says:

                  Trouble with open source is that though information wants to be free, programmers want to be paid.

                  So, you need an open source model where programmers nonetheless get paid. Which is tricky and subtle. Someone has to pay.

                  Your business wants to deal with Megacorp, because otherwise they would have to yield power to engineers to pay other engineers for updates, maintenance, and customization of open source. Which accounting will not stand for.

                  The open source solution, to work, requires and results in the redistribution of power within the corporation. If you have a strong CEO, backed by a strong board, he simply assigns power and money to whoever can get the job done, and takes power and money away from whoever cannot. But since HR, accounting, and legal cannot in fact get the job done, they don’t like that.

                  For a corporation to be corporate, to be one being, you need a strong CEO. Accounting, legal, and HR do not much like strong CEOs. If you have a strong CEO, HR is going to find he is sexually harassing and racist, Accounting is going to find the corporation’s accounts are not Sox compliant (they never are Sox compliant, Sox is deliberately designed to be impossible to comply with, you pay accountants with regulatory connections to bribe the regulators to overlook this inconvenient non compliance), and legal is going to discover that you are in breach of umpteen regulations. We have so many regulations that you always are in breach of one thousand regulations that no one has ever heard of.

                  HR, accounting, and legal, can make themselves important by creating problems. If the CEO is focused on problems that only engineers can solve, HR will find a bigger problem for him to focus on.

                • scalarmult says:

                  Oh that’s nothing. I just had to explain to an Indian recruiter why I couldn’t instantaneously relocate to another city 400 miles away in a different state for a short term contract.

                • Fred says:

                  They are not getting it. Why? It is not valid XML so why not? Their tiny brains are entirely wrapped around XML legislation.

                  Are you dealing with Pajeets, perchance?

                • suones says:

                  Your business wants to deal with Megacorp, because otherwise they would have to yield power to engineers to pay other engineers for updates, maintenance, and customization of open source. Which accounting will not stand for.

                  Leaving aside the prog/HR nonsense (which is orthogonal to this), I see this as a fundamental Brahmin vs Vaishya struggle. “Business” is dominated by Vaishyas, and managers/”MBAs” are Vaishyas almost by definition. Most “engineers” working in corps are also Vaishya or at least Vaishya-aligned, working under Vaishya managers. “Commercial software” might as well be named “Vaishya software,” because it exists to maximise revenue, which is the primary Vaishya indicator of status.

                  “Free software” (on the Minsky/Sussman/Stallman axis) is almost entirely Brahmin-driven, however. There have been many (half-hearted) attempts to Vaishya-ise/commercialise said software, but it is fundamentally resistant. What ESR dubbed “egoboo” (ego-boost), the reward that free software developers crave, is actually a demonstration of superior knowledge, which is the quintessential Brahmin indicator of status.

                  Brahmins commonly mock Vaishya-driven software as “blub” or suchlike, and all of us have a good laugh. MS Windows was never high-status, even when it was on almost 100% of desktop computers. OTOH, Unix became high-status very early on, and remains so today, even though it generates far, far lower “revenue” than Windows. Another example of a perpetually high-status technology is LISP. The conflict between “high-hacking” AI/LISP and “low-hacking” Unix/C is a Brahmin factional struggle.

                  A group of clever Vaishyas that managed to square this circle early on was at IBM. They realised that most companies didn’t want to deal with Brahmins, and similarly that Brahmins were not interested in revenue-maximisation as a goal. So they worked out a system where they gave Brahmins good salaries to do research, and aggressively marketed the fruits of the research to Vaishyas who were incapable of implementing the research themselves. The Brahmins working for IBM didn’t care if IBM squeezed every last drop of revenue, as long as they got a good enough salary and had excellent freedom to pursue $WHATEVER. The Vaishyas licensing “IBM software” didn’t have to deal with any Brahmins, and were glad to pay to be free of them. Arch example of IBM Brahmin: EF Codd. Arch example of Vaishya outfit that “everyone hates” (i.e., is fundamentally low-status): Oracle. Java went from being extremely high-status to “blub”-level right around Oracle’s takeover of Sun.

                  Otherwise, whenever a company of Vaishyas decides to hire Brahmins, it quickly results in struggle. Brahmin “engineers” (not really) see this situation as “Brilliant engineers working under retard MBAs.” Nothing good comes out of it.

                  ESR and “open source” advocates realised (without actually realising it, d/t crimestop) that Brahmins have a good 10 IQ points over Vaishyas, and seek/sought to market Brahmin-software to Vaishyas simply because it was higher quality than Vaishya-developed shit blub. This seeks to replicate the IBM model, minus the revenue-squeezing that IBM arch-Vaishyas are so fond of. This, of course, set the model up for failure, but the competing Vaishya-shit is so bad that Red Hat developed a billion-dollar business around it. When IBM acquired RH, I breathed a sigh of relief at the inevitable. Too bad today’s IBM is not the IBM of old.

                • jim says:

                  Stallman is obviously a priest, Linus not very obvious at all.

                  Naturally the existence of another priesthood pissed off progressives. Their normal response to competing faiths is, like the Romans, to interpret the faith as ignorant and low status version of their own faith, which they proceed to improve.

                  Which did not work all that well on the open source movement, so they recently moved to more drastic and coercive measures, to which the open source priesthood responded with a curious paralysis and passivity. “No, actually we really are good members of the most holy progressive faith”. They could not understand why they were not.

                  Shortly after you agree to a code of conduct, your key designers, founders, and most critical personnel will be found to be in violation of it. Which is turning open source code into shit. It is suffering bitrot under its progressive overlords. The open source faith is rapidly finding itself in the same place as Christianity. Should have vigorous othered progressives the moment the eye of Soros fell upon them. Instead vigorously othered “nazis” and “sexists”, but to their astonishment, got purged anyway, with their vigorous othering merely resulting in them assisting in the purge of each other, friends knifing friends in the back, and then getting no reward for their treachery.

                  It did not matter how progressive someone was, if he thought that hacking was higher status than progress, he was convicted of some unholy sin against progress.

          • Mike in Boston says:

            Group B gets driven out of their homes, as for example Detroit and Ferguson – which is not “housing costs” but war.

            A well-researched book which makes a point very similar to Jim’s is The Slaughter of Cities: Urban Renewal as Ethnic Cleansing, by E. Michael Jones. It does have more than a little of Anonymous Fake’s sort of class-based analysis with which Jim might disagree:

            In Boston… [a]s in Chicago, black crime, now politically sanctioned by the city’s wealthiest families as part of the black struggle for liberation, put pressure on ethnics to leave, which in turn had the added benefit of freeing up valuable chunks of real estate the WASP establishment had left behind.

            but I think it clearly makes the case that the dispersion of old Badwhite neighborhoods and the destruction of their population’s way of making a living was due not to the invisible hand, but to a deliberate policy.

            Unlike Jones’s other books, this one has, unsurprisingly, been memory-holed from Amazon and can no longer be purchased there or on the Amazon-owned abebooks.com. It is available from the publisher directly.

            • Anonymous Fake says:

              [deleted because unresponsive and too totally disconnected from observed reality to be fisked*]

            • jim says:

              And were those “valuable chunks of real estate freed up”?

              Rather, they were abandoned, because overrun by African plains apes.

              And to this day remain abandoned.

              When people see power doing bad things, they always attack the victims, because attacking power is too dangerous. And this is what Michael Jones, and anonymous fake, is doing.

              Supposedly, all bad things are done by the kulak with two cows. Michael Jones is full of wrath that the peasant with two cows drove badwhites out Detroit, and Anonymous Fake is full of wrath that the peasant with two cows prevented the promised reward being granted to every dangerous moron with a piece of worthless and extremely expensive paper issued by a university.

              • Mike in Boston says:

                Michael Jones is full of wrath that the peasant with two cows drove badwhites out Detroit

                Well, Jones is angry at the destruction of the old ethnic neighborhoods, and he spreads the blame a lot of places: at the Catholic bishops, the American intelligence establishment, the WASPs, the Jews… Some of these include, as you mentioned, at peasants with two cows. But Jones also places a lot of blame on Robert Moses, the American Friends Service Committee, Students for Democratic Action, and highly-placed individuals within these organizations. In my mind there is a qualitative difference between these and peasants with two cows.

                Jones’s book draws on extensive research and is well documented, but his scattershot assignment of blame misses the big picture. You could compare him to the medieval astronomers who made good observations and inferred epicycles; your “holiness cycle” framework, like heliocentrism, is a much more parsimonious explanation.

                I guess I was hoping that Jones’s book could serve has Anonymous Fake’s gateway drug to your analysis, since he seems to be coming from more or less the same sort of place as Jones. Jones at the very least demonstrates that Badwhite ethnic cohesion was actively targeted, not some sort of by-product of Evil Capitalism. But I suppose the flaw in that of recommendation is that the reader would go no further than Jones did.

                • jim says:

                  > > Michael Jones is full of wrath that the peasant with two cows drove badwhites out Detroit

                  > But Jones also places a lot of blame on Robert Moses, the American Friends Service Committee, Students for Democratic Action, and highly-placed individuals within these organizations. In my mind there is a qualitative difference between these and peasants with two cows.

                  Slaughter of the cities was written thirty years after it became safe to criticize Robert Moses from the left.

                  Not everyone on Jones’ list is the peasant with two cows, but all of them are safe targets to criticize.

                • Mike in Boston says:

                  Slaughter of the cities was written thirty years after it became safe to criticize Robert Moses from the left… all of them are safe targets to criticize.

                  When you put it that way, I see your point.

                  Serious question, though: who are unsafe targets to criticize? I guess it is still hard for me to notice the dog that does not bark.

                • suones says:

                  …who are unsafe targets to criticize?

                  Greedy Jewish landlords, for one? It is funny how “Robert Moses” is made the scapegoat for the entire tribe long after he lost all relevance. Even Ocasio-Cortez’s sponsor had to withdraw that tagline and replace it with “Greed Landlords.” This also indicates that, hilariously (but predictably) enough, for Red Indians, “Jews” and “Whitey” are not two different categories, howsoever much the small-hat brigade works to prove otherwise.

                  In non-whitey rule, GJL will be certainly safe to criticise, but are, at present, radioactive-level unsafe to criticise.

  25. Gedeon says:

    Where is your mea culpa, Jim?

    You owe me and all of your commenters for censoring my comments

    • jim says:

      Your comments were deleted for stupidity and gross ignorance, and the passage of time has not made any of them look any better.

      You nothing about politics, and you know vastly less than that about blockchains.

  26. Noname says:

    There is no Titer test for CV-19 immunity like rubella or mumps. And the PCR test is not accurate even according to some manufacturers. CV-19 is a corona virus like the common cold. It is not possible yet to be immune from a cold. And catching a cold does not give you immunity. You have to accept the SCIENCE as Fauci would say.

    Unless there is a Titer test for CV-19, there is no way to know if the vaccine is effective. Is it safe? Evidently not. The CDCs own website lists almost 2,000 deaths so far.

    How about the people on Jim’s Blog? Your thoughts?

    • jim says:

      China Flu is just another flu. If you look at excess deaths, it is worse than most, but not dramatically worse, and less bad than some to which no one paid much attention.

      Flu only kills people who are about to drop dead anyway, hence the interesting phenomenon that deaths from heart disease, cancer, and miscellaneous diseases of old age usually drop by an amount exactly equal to the deaths from China Flu.

      In the first couple of months of the epidemic, there were excess deaths, though these were generally iatrogenic murder by ventilator, not the flu itself. Since then, no excess deaths, with the increase in deaths attributed to flu always being precisely equal to the decrease in the usual causes of death among the old, the frail, and the morbidly obese.

      Flu vaccine, on the other hand, does kill some people who have a bad immune reaction, who probably would not have died absent vaccination.

      • Jsd says:

        How much should one resist getting vaccinated? Is the vaccine danger substantial enough to be worth it to risk outing oneself as a badthinker?

        • jim says:

          Well, if you are old, or if your immune system is dodgy for other reasons – you suffer from allergies, or you have had a brush with something like Guillain–Barré syndrome, I would try to avoid vaccination, even at risk of crimethink exposure.

          The correct application of the vaccine is to vaccinate young healthy health workers, aged care workers, and transportation hub staff (who are at absolutely no risk from China Flu, unless morbidly obese, dying of cancer, etc) but who can potentially expose old and frail people to it.

          And even if old and frail, would not worry over much about China flu. The death rate statistics indicate that anyone who dies of China Flu these days (now that we have stopped murdering people with ventilators) already had an appointment with the Grim Reaper scheduled within a couple of months.

        • Green Fields says:

          If you do get vaccinated, opt for the Johnson & Johnson vaccine (as opposed to the Moderna or Pfizer versions), as it doesn’t rely on mRNA delivery methods.

          I’m not sure how much concern mRNA delivery methods should actually warrant, but better to take a tried and tested technology then volunteer for a novel one.

          • Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

            The J&J shot uses modified retroviruses to insert the dna that produces the rna that folds proteins into the same protein spikes as the coating on the sars virus, into the native cell’s dna.

            The Pfizer shot uses messenger rna by itself, which starts folding spike proteins once it gets inside of a cell. This is theoretically a lot faster to develop, since you can just copy a sequence you see in the target virus, and start synthesizing it en mass; but also more difficult, since rna is very fragile, requiring intensive climate control for storage, and you need to figure out how to get it inside of a cell in the first place.

            The technique called vaccination as originally understood, of course, would be the pathogen itself, modified to be less lethal – either by denaturing it through thermal or chemical means, or by using a related but less morbid stain, or by lower pathogen load in exposure, or combinations thereof.

            There is what can be essentially described as an inverse relationship, between how morbid a pathogen is, and how appropriate a ‘vaccine’ can be for it.

            With highly morbid agents, such as polio, cholera, smallpox, and so on, the risk from purposeful affliction is usually considered a fair trade-off to hedge against the risk of the genuine article.

            A progressive trend over the years however, has been the push for ‘vaccines’ for rafts of increasingly trivial conditions; and with increasingly trivial conditions, you approach the point where an effective ‘vaccine’ would be as equally morbid as the infection itself.

            • jim says:

              > with increasingly trivial conditions, you approach the point where an effective ‘vaccine’ would be as equally morbid as the infection itself.

              With flu, we are at that limit or well past that limit – and with China flu, still at that limit or past it.

            • onyomi says:

              >but better to take a tried and tested technology then volunteer for a novel one.

              This was my thinking as well, if it turns out I have to get vaccinated for my job, which pretty much requires international travel (not to mention international travel is one of my favorite things), but I am no expert.

              >The J&J shot uses modified retroviruses to insert the dna that produces the rna that folds proteins into the same protein spikes as the coating on the sars virus, into the native cell’s dna.

              Does this imply that even the J&J isn’t really as “tried and true” a method as it sounds?

              • Pooch says:

                Doesn’t sound like it. The Novavax vaccine sounds more like the traditional technology. That’s the one I would get if I have absolutely had to (which I don’t).

                Novavax’s Covid vaccine is a “protein subunit vaccine,” which contains harmless pieces of the surface spike protein that the coronavirus uses to infect humans. When the body’s immune system recognizes the proteins, it starts making antibodies, and can remember how to fight the virus if infected in the future, according to the Centers for Disease Control.

                https://www.cnbc.com/2021/01/29/covid-vaccine-comparing-jnj-pfizer-moderna-novavax.html

              • Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

                Use of retrovirus gene alteration has been done before (eg, the ebola shot), so there is a sense in which the phrase ‘tried and true’ could possibly be applied.

                In the sense that the querent spoke of, the ‘messing with dna’ sense, it is actually more invasive than the rna fragment shots (which nominally do not interact with dna at all, just fold proteins) not less.

                • onyomi says:

                  Which seems more likely to most closely mimic the effect of having been exposed to, and recovered from, the virus naturally?

            • Javier says:

              On top of that, the PCR test used to detect SARS-Cov2 was deliberately over-calibrated, producing upwards of a 90%+ false positive rate. Which means all the data about the disease is suspect. Doctors are just completely shooting in the dark.

        • Javier says:

          The vaccines weren’t tested to prevent infection, transmission, or even death. That’s why they are saying even with the vaccine you still need to wear masks and all that crap.

          They were only tested to prevent symptoms, with the target being a 50% reduction. I bed cough syrup will get you a 50% reduction in symptoms. They set the trial targets so low so as to guarantee something would pass that they could sell. I doubt the vaccine does anything at all.

          Ivermectin is 85% effective when administered after infection and 95% effective as a prophylactic, and doesn’t have to be injected straight into your blood. If you’re worried just get some of that and pop it with some vitamin D and zinc.

    • Noname says:

      https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/adverse-events.html

      The count is over 2,500 now. Yet the CDC continues to claim it cannot be from the “vaccine”? That they have reviewed the medical records of all these deaths? How can that be when it takes the VA (another biggov outfit) a year to review one record for disability. It is a lie! The government is not reviewing anything.

  27. Recently I have learned something shocking about Progs. A writer claimed that gaymarriage turns sodomy into a sacrament. A Prog said it was just as unnecessarily offensive as saying that heterosexual marriage is turning PIV sex into a sacrament. I was shocked. Of course PIV sex is a sacrament! It makes human beings!

    The original idea of atheist humanism was to elevate humans from second best after God to The Best. If humans are The Best, making humans is The Best thing. Obviously.

    This is why space colonialization followed from atheistic humanism. If humans are The Best, they need The Greatest goal. So if the old goal of joining up with the Maker of the universe is not on the books anymore, then the greatest goal is obviously to conquer the universe. And besides, if humans are The Best, making a billion times billion humans is The Best and that requires more living space out there.

    Seems to me atheistic humanism has committed suicide. It seems saying God is not great now led to saying humans are not great. WTF.

    We need a religion. At least that way humans can be second best and still the greatest of all creatures in the visible world, worthy of great goals.

    • Ace says:

      I bailed on the Christen church when I was 17 mostly because I don’t have that religious sense that most people need. I never hated Christianity, I just didn’t see it doing the most basic functions like family formation at any the churches I attended. I was especially upset that the son of the pastor at my last small church was fucking most of the young women there based on his superior status, leaving nothing for most of the boys. There was no chance of finding a virgin wife there.

      We need a functioning religion, not a half assed pozed religion that’s little more than parasitism. Look at that church that incel spa shooter went to. He couldn’t get laid without paying for it and his parents kicked him out of the house for looking at porn while his pathetic church sent him to sex addiction therapy for wanting what all men need. They should have found him a wife and got him a job.

      • Dave says:

        Re. the Atlanta shootings, what’s the matter with journalists? Here’s an incident that fits the incel narrative perfectly, and they shoe-horn it into the white-supremacist narrative instead!

        • Tom says:

          Nofap and anti porn right preempts the incel narrative.

          The news really, really doesn’t want to start agreeing that porn addiction is a bad thing. And when push comes to shove they don’t want to admit that society failing to give wife and family opportunities to men is dangerous.

          They have to shoehorn the white supremacist thing in there to avoid the ‘degendrecy is bad’ idea getting too much limelight.

          • jim says:

            Trouble with porn addiction is that it eases the incel life, and also causes it. There are few men who care about porn if they have access to flesh and blood women.

          • Aidan says:

            The Atlanta happy ending massacre was a perfect example of why we are needed. His church could not get him a cute wife to bang, and told him he was the problem for being horny. They put him in frickin rehab for being a horny young man for Christssake.

            Chimps only jerk off in captivity. Porn is the symptom of a society that is completely intolerable for a healthy, virile young man who does not own a woman. Men jerk off to make modern life more tolerable, lest they chimp out

            • Pooch says:

              Reflects very poorly on the SBC which I had thought was fairly of based.

              • Ace says:

                No American churches are based on the women question. They all blame men for the dysfunction between the sexes and they all elevate the status of women, making that dysfunction worse.

                • Pooch says:

                  The first church that does reward voluntary celibate young men (as in accordance with old type Christianity) with wives will have real legs as a state religion but this is a lot to ask for.

                  Nick Fuentes seems to be promoting this to his followers and it seems to be a trend for traditional catholics. They are taking pride in themselves as trad incels. TBD if it pays off for them or not.

                • jim says:

                  Trad incels are reviving a very old demonic left singularity.

                • Pooch says:

                  Is that not what was practiced by old type Christianity? No sex before marriage?

                • jim says:

                  Those who were most indignant about eighteenth century immorality, those most passionately dedicated to sexual purity, were somehow strangely unable to notice that the wife of King George the Fourth of England was fucking around, and that Florence Nightingale was a whore.

                  Customary age of marriage in Rome was about twelve to fourteen.

                  The Christian position should be understood as not “No sex before marriage”, but rather as the old Hebrew position. “No serial monogamy for women” – that once a chick has sex with a man, she is stuck with him, and he with her.

                  In the context of the Red Pill and Evolutionary Game Theory, the Christian/Old Hebrew position should be read as “No endless shopping for the most alpha semen available”.

                  The Old Testament presupposes an absolute property right of males in female reproductive, sexual, and domestic services. New Testament clamps down on the transferability of that right.

                  “No sex” is holiness spiraling on that principle, as “Go forth and adopt some African orphans” is holiness spiraling on the story of the Good Samaritan.

                  The problem with all the “No sex” variants is that they are license for women to shop forever, that they abandon the task of sustaining cooperation between men and women, abandon the job of establishing peace in the war of the sexes.

                  Christianity’s job is not suppressing sex. Love is a battlefield. All is fair in love and war. This is a bad place to be, and it is hard to reproduce under these circumstances. It is Christianity’s job to fix this – which involves suppressing sexual acts that violate other men’s property rights in female sexual and reproductive services. “No sex” is, in practice, a thin excuse for defecting in this struggle, an excuse usually pushed by the sodomite mafia in the priesthood.

                  The “No sex” crowd are defecting on the struggle to establish sexual order on earth. The purer the preacher is on sexuality, the less likely he is to make an issue of single motherhood, divorce, and remarriage.

                  Which goes back to the divorce of Queen Caroline.

                  “No sex” Christianity is the cloud of excuses given for abandoning beta males to sexual anarchy, with the result that they don’t get sex or children. The no sex Christian was strangely unable to notice that Queen Caroline and Florence Nightingale were having quite a lot of sex, just as the man who worries about orphans in Africa will in actual practice leave his brother to die in a ditch, because worrying about racism and sexism makes him too holy to worry about his brother.

                • Pooch says:

                  “No endless shopping for the most alpha semen available”.

                  Excellent explanation. Is the corollary for men “No endless shopping for the hottest girl available”? I have been on each end of it, and I do feel guilty about my personal contribution to defect/defect.

                • Wulfgar Thundercock III says:

                  I’m one of the trad incels, and I’d agree that this could be a problem, but there is a problem of virgins. There is a mismatch between male and female virgins, and it is hard enough to make a whore into a wife. How do I effectively fight back against the degeneracy when I have to sift through piles of whores, especially when I have so little experience?

                • The Cominator says:

                  1st of all you misunderstand the problem as a whore problem.

                  East Asia and Russia have a “whore” problem. Whore societies don’t have patriarchy but female status is still mostly lower than men. Whores (low status but unowned) are basically willing to give attention and ultimately fuck most men.

                  We have a problem of excessively high female status. Excessively high status females chastely wait for Jeremy Meeks and scorn all “lesser” men.

                  You are not dealing with whores you are dealing with feminists princesses. Whores by comparison are not really so bad…

                  Almost everyone gets this wrong and its very important to get this right.

                • Pooch says:

                  Excessively high status females chastely wait for Jeremy Meeks and scorn all “lesser” men.

                  We have a slut problem. A whore fucks everyone. A slut fucks everyone but you. It’s not like those women waiting for Jeremy Meeks are virgins. They’ve been pumped and dumped countless times by many Jeremy Meeks’ and also pumped and dumped men who they find out later are insufficiently jeremy Meeks-like.

                  It’s not hard to pull sluts from the bar in today’s environment for one-night stands. Much harder to hold on to them.

                • Pooch says:

                  It’s not hard to pull sluts from the bar in today’s environment for one-night stands with proper game I should say.

                  Also same goes for online via Tinder, etc.

                • The Cominator says:

                  “It’s not hard to pull sluts from the bar in today’s environment for one-night stands with proper game I should say.”

                  Stats say otherwise, its not hard if you can plausibly ape a criminal/badboy (in America that is what game is now, hence why Jim says he played the role of a very bad man and his greatest worry was that in doing so he’d get in serious legal trouble) or have drugs etc but its harder than its ever been for other men.

                  If you are in Asia or Russia not hard.

                • Wulfgar Thundercock III says:

                  I understand the problem, Com, and its mostly a distinction without a difference. I could pull ass if I wanted to, but all the girls that meet my standards are already taken by another men. I dont much feel like being some girl’s sloppy forty-seconds, and the “good” girls are nowhere to be found.

                  My game is passable, I’m openly and clearly willing and able to be violent, and people respect/fear me. I’ve had interest, but it usually comes from someone I’d need a hazmat suit to fuck or from a friend’s girl, which in both cases are hard no’s. I’m not at all opposed to sex, in fact I would like to have quite a lot of it. I’m just not interested in boldly going where everyone else has already been.

                • The Cominator says:

                  If you want to marry a virginal high school sweetheart and you aren’t in high school… good luck.

                  You might find it in other countries but not here. You just won’t.

                • Wulfgar Thundercock III says:

                  Yeah, Com, that’s pretty much the same conclusion I came to. What I’m trying to figure out is what to do about it.

                • The Cominator says:

                  “Yeah, Com, that’s pretty much the same conclusion I came to. What I’m trying to figure out is what to do about it.”

                  You’re an idealist at heart when it comes to women… someone who wants a bluepill romance to be true. I know the feeling I really do… Well…

                  You aren’t going to get that ideal kind of teen sweetheart love at our age. Even if the girl is a trad perfect NAWALT sweetheart we ourselves are too distrustful of women to have that kind of thing, if you had such a girl you could never believe it not the way you once could… you need a little bit of bluepill to really have that kind of infactuation.

                • Wulfgar Thundercock III says:

                  Oh, I’m well aware I’m not going to find a blue pill romance, but that isn’t what I’m looking for. I’m looking for a mother for my children, and I can’t find a woman I’d be willing to keep around. I can live without romance, though I’d rather not, and I can live without sex, though I’d really rather not. Sex being more important than romance, I can play enough of an aggressive asshole to keep a woman around without having the romance.

                  My problem is that all I am finding nothing but broken girls. I don’t need to believe it, but I need her to believe it. The girls I’m finding have filthy, disgusting souls, who’s diseased states resemble their diseased bodies from all the men they’ve picked up. These girls have the thousand cock stare before they are legally allowed in a bar. I can’t hold back my disgust long enough to wife up something like that.

                • jim says:

                  See my post “The three magic words”

                  That is how you reach cooperate/cooperate equilibrium

                  The fundamental Victorian fallacy is that women are naturally so virtuous that purely voluntary and individual means are sufficient to accomplish cooperate/cooperate equilibrium, aka marriage 1.0

                  But game theory tells us that in a game of few iterations and short and known ending, voluntary means do not suffice, and female instincts, all women, every women, All Women Are like That, are psychologically adapted to the eternal problem that reproduction absent coercive and collective means for enforcing reproductive cooperation is unlikely to be successful.

                • Wulfgar Thundercock III says:

                  No, I get all that. I know what to do, I just don’t know where to find the girls worth doing it on. I’m not terribly interested in being the nth bad boy wondering if his kids are really his kids. Nor am I particularly interested in plowing my way through an assortment of whores to pick out the least bad whore.

                • jim says:

                  I ploughed my way through an assortment of whores to find the least bad whore. Seems to be working out well, thanks in large part to backing from the biggest alpha of them all and an entirely plausible willingness to use deadly violence, plausibility supported by observable conduct and a not necessarily entirely accurate vaguely drawn backstory.

                  Women, all women, All Women Are Like That, like dangerous men, or men who plausibly seem dangerous, and she likes most of all a man who can plausibly appear to seem dangerous to herself. Which makes complete sense in the light of evolutionary game theory.

                • The Cominator says:

                  I know you’re looking for a Ruby in a mountain of rocks

                  But there ain’t no Coup De Ville hiding at the bottom of a cracker jack box

                  Finding the least bad whore is perhaps the best you can hope for unless you want to learn foreign languages and search the rural Russia or Eastern Europe (most here don’t seem to want Asian girls) if you don’t trust them even a little though you’ll be alone. I’m mostly alone.

                  As I said as someone who is very bad at convincingly aping badboy traits I find literal strippers to be fairly amiable and easy to deal with as far as women go (most of the time).

                • The Cominator says:

                  “thanks in large part to backing from the biggest alpha of them all and an entirely plausible willingness to use deadly violence, plausibility supported by observable conduct and a not necessarily accurate vaguely drawn backstory.”

                  And this is what I’m utterly hopeless at doing. I’d only be roused to contemplating deadly violence if some woman was going to divorce rape me and/or take my kids.

                  Otherwise for me there is no percentage in it…

                  The problem with game in modern America is you REALLY have to be plausibly a violent thug (or have some profession that is high status to women or that they fetishize for some other odd reason like musicians), literally nothing else works because single women see themselves as much higher status than men.

                • jim says:

                  Fortunately I have monsters inside that keep going outside for a little walk, and have major problems caused by lust, gluttony, and wrath, the first and last sins making homicide totally credible.

                • jim says:

                  > I’d only be roused to contemplating deadly violence if some woman was going to divorce rape me and/or take my kids.

                  But before she does that, she is going to insist on mysterious absences, during which she auditions other men for being more alpha than yourself. Is that not going to rouse you to deadly violence?

                • Wulfgar Thundercock III says:

                  I’m like Jim; I have a monster locked up that wants to drink blood and howl at the moon. It’s not like you have to go around being a barbaric degenerate. The average zoomer has seen so little violence that a dope slap upside the head is unsettling. A knock-down, drag-out kind of fight would be like Armageddon. Just rattle the latch to that cage and let them know that if they fuck with you then you will hurt them.

                  The percentage in it is that it is fun as hell to knock the shit out of someone. If he’s a decent enough sort, you might even come to be friends. Even without that, getting in a scuffle is a blast, and a hell of a rush. Nothing like handing someone an ass-beating and watching them scurry off to make you feel like the top dog.

                • jim says:

                  That stuff impresses men, but does not impress women. What impresses women is the real or plausibly faked willingness to kill people.

                • Wulfgar Thundercock III says:

                  When all the men respect you, the women tend to, as well. Especially when you tell them that you have no compunctions against slapping a girl silly. If I’ll do violent illegal shit in public, it is reasonable to assume that I would do worse in private.

                  Furthermore, I’ve made it clear that I don’t have a limit to escalation. No rules but God’s commands, and that means genocide is on the table if it goes far enough. The people I know absolutely believe that I would kill someone, and they have said it again and again. I think they think that something is wrong with me, but I don’t care, because none of them will go to the mat with me over it.

                • Pooch says:

                  What impresses women is the real or plausibly faked willingness to kill people.

                  I have never, ever shown a willingness to kill people or be violent towards women in order to get laid.

                  Instead I put a lot of time into lifting weights and my physique (amateur bodybuilding) while learning the red pill and game. I am guessing women have used their imagination of what I’m capable of when it came to my muscle mass (subconsciously). That has been sufficient for me personally.

                • jim says:

                  If you managed to get laid, I suspect that your definition of violence does not include spanking, physically moving them from where they want to be to where you want them to be, and so forth. Surely you picked up a chick and tossed her on the bed from time to time, or carried her off in a fireman’s lift, and so on and so forth?

                • Pooch says:

                  Yes I have done all that and regularly do all that. With violence, I was thinking more along the lines of causing serious bodily harm.

                • jim says:

                  Well, of course I would never do serious bodily harm to a woman, short of finding her in bed with someone else, and even in that case, would start on the man.

                  But women rather like to think that you might.

                • Wulfgar Thundercock III says:

                  I’m still a virgin so I’m not getting laid, but even I have noticed that women are far more interested after I threaten violence or come close to committing some violent act, especially against them. The more physical I am, the more they like it. Tell them I’ll slap them silly if they get to uppity, and they barely bother to fake distress.

                  Once I had the red pill revelation, it was so clear to see I’m pissed I didn’t see it sooner. I had noticed bits, but never put them together until it was too late to find the kind of woman I want. A year or two earlier and it might have done me some good. Nothing gets women more excited than violence.

                • Ace says:

                  I’m still a virgin so I’m not getting laid, but even I have noticed that women are far more interested after I threaten violence or come close to committing some violent act, especially against them. The more physical I am, the more they like it.

                  A man calling himself a virgin has always rubbed me the wrong way. Women are who have not had sex are virgins, men who are not getting laid are incels or celebrate.

                  > Tell them I’ll slap them silly if they get to uppity, and they barely bother to fake distress.

                  Honestly, I have a hard time believing your not having sex if you are comfortable enough to threaten a woman with violence and be taken seriously. What’s the problem?

                • The Cominator says:

                  “When all the men respect you, the women tend to, as well. Especially when you tell them that you have no compunctions against slapping a girl silly. If I’ll do violent illegal shit in public, it is reasonable to assume that I would do worse in private.

                  Furthermore, I’ve made it clear that I don’t have a limit to escalation. No rules but God’s commands, and that means genocide is on the table if it goes far enough. The people I know absolutely believe that I would kill someone, and they have said it again and again. I think they think that something is wrong with me, but I don’t care, because none of them will go to the mat with me over it.”

                  “I’m a virgin”

                  These things don’t add up… unless you’re in Middle School.

                  Even really short guys get laid readily if women percieve them as dangerous and violent. As HBO’s Rome character Titus Pullo said it Makes em wet as October.

                  You sound like you need to get laid to clear out the cobwebs in your head… and stop worrying about ideal NAWALTs for now. I don’t have game (even though I understand some of the principles) as regular American women understand game but its bad for men to not get it every three months at least… I have a regular outlet when I need it.

                  If you are as you say it shouldn’t be hard. If you’re actually autistic and nerdy and hopeless at game (at least not plausibly psychotic enough for our feminist princesss Metoo society) I can give you some tips on how even an autistic and nerdy guy can bang strippers (and not just fugly ones) for far far below market rate. I’m not good at game otherwise but I am good at that.

                • Pooch says:

                  My advice to younger men, like Wulf, looking for wives is stay away from the cities. The cities and post-grad urban areas really are defect/defect jungles. It is near impossible for women living there to not be corrupted by the satanic and shitlib influences of the modern Western city as they are fully removed from any traditional upbringing. These are the women who are truly waiting for Jeremy Meeks to call again (after being plowed by dozens of guys to find him first), and the ones that aren’t are the ones not hot enough to have been noticed by Jeremy Meeks. Took me painfully long to learn that. Now on top of that you have feral African riots and China flu lockdown there is even more reason to get away.

                  If I were back in the hunt I would advise men to look in a nice non-rainbow’d white middle class suburb which gives you access to the countryside as well. I’d look in the church (I see plenty of young chicks in mine 35 mins away from the city), gym, online apps, etc but stay away from the bars unless you’re on a date.

                  You’re unlikely to find a virgin but nice low n-count girls do exist if you know where to look.

                • Pooch says:

                  Middle class/working class*

                • Pooch says:

                  I’d also make an Instagram and post only videos of you doing epic manly shit like shooting guns, lifting weights, boxing, riding dirt bikes, etc (No gay family photos) and then DM hotties en masse when you think it’s good enough. This works surprisingly well.

                • Wulfgar Thundercock III says:

                  I’m in a college town, near a school that has a bit of a reputation as a party school. The shit that the girls get up to out here is revolting. As Pooch says, the only girls not banged out by Jeremy Meeks are the girls that are unattractive or the girls that got picked up by someone serious before Jeremy Meeks got to her. Its shocking the shit the girls get up to out here. If any of you are familiar with the behavior and attitude of military girls, the girls at my college are way worse than even that.

                  I’m voluntarily celibate. I’m not really interested in fucking around because I don’t want to. I want one woman. Pooch has a pretty good breakdown of why I haven’t found that woman. Every time I found one, she already belonged to someone else, and I’m not going to steal another man’s girl.

                • jim says:

                  No you are not.

                  Because women are hypergamous, in a sexual market that is efficient for women, most men are incels, and a few men have problems with too many women trying to sleep with them.

                  The college market is efficient for women – meaning it is inefficient for the race (we get defect/defect equilibrium, players and bitches), inefficient for the society (incels have no reason to work, because no reason to have a garden and a nice house) and inefficient for the Sovereign (incels are not a tax base, and to have an army, you need men with something to fight for)

                  College towns are a highly efficient sexual market. So you are not going to get anywhere without very good game. Most men in college are not going to get anywhere.

                  Being physically fit helps. A martial art helps. A genuine or well faked propensity for stupid violence helps. But good game helps a lot more than any of them.

                  Of course if all the men get physically fit and adopt a genuine or well simulated propensity for stupid violence, and all men learn good game, that just means that women raise their standards even further. But for any one man, it works. The blue pill means that most men on campus have dreadfully bad game.

                  I know a guy who was incredibly handsome. People paid him good money to put his face on their product. When we walked through the mall, women would stop and stare. If there was some kind of excuse for talking to him, cute chicks would come up to talk to him. If we stood still in a public place, a hot chick would materialize. But he did not get far, because of poor game. Blue pilled, politically correct.

                  The individual solution is to learn good game, get physically fit, adopt the persona of a dangerous adventurer, plough your way through a pile of whores, and pick the least bad whore.

                • Anonymous 2 says:

                  I found it useful to check out the culture. If you are in a university town, the women will likely be engaged in bacchanalia and very important careers until 30+. On the other hand, if you have young women pushing around strollers in the streets, you too can likely get a girl with minimal wear.

                • Pooch says:

                  I’m in a college town

                  Ah ok. College towns are as bad as the cities or even worse. Are you still in college? The big public schools were a hypergamic jungle in my day with many of the attractive girls holding out hope to meet a football player or a top-tier frat dude. Any type of trad girl went to a Christian collage. I can only imagine how much more extreme it is now. It is totally reasonable to not even play that game if you aren’t interested in banging low-tier skanks and sluts you have no interest in marrying, especially when your SMV is so low (it peaks for men around 30). Back in the early days of the red pill subreddit we used to call that “Monk Mode” where one ignores women and solely focuses on raising one’s own value (physical fitness, mentally, financially etc) until it is sufficiently high enough to re-enter the sexual marketplace. This does mean using your time wisely and not fucking around with video games and the like.

                  Having said that, low n-count girls do exist at colleges even if they are in minority so you should still keep an eye out even if it’s just to improve your male-female interaction skills (game). They are probably walking around during the day time and not drinking and partying much. I befriended a group of athlete girls who weren’t allowed to drink or party for most of the year but I was so blue-pilled and had no idea how to escalate even though I saw them frequently and one in particular. This probably cost me the opportunity for a high-value wife in hindsight.

                • Wulfgar Thundercock III says:

                  I’m going to school, and I have a pretty decent SMV because I’m a little older than most other students. Also getting closer to having a degree in a STEM field. There is no social activity on campus. The coronavirus has everything shut down, likely until after I graduate. Everyone is either on Tinder or at the bars, and neither is my kind of scene.

                • jim says:

                  Tinder works great.

                  Arrange for some photos where everyone is looking at you, and you are looking at something important and or doing something manly or stupid (chicks cannot tell the difference between manly and stupid). Hot chick looking at you in background.

                • Pooch says:

                  Not unreasonable to me to remain celibate (temporarily) while in that type of environment.

                • jim says:

                  Is unreasonable.

                  Nothing teaches like experience.

                • Ace says:

                  Not unreasonable to me to remain celibate (temporarily) while in that type of environment.

                  I’m not one to give game advice because besides playing the bad boy (I’m naturally prone to violence), I’m extremely bad at it because I can’t read people without spending a lot of time with someone, which really reduces the effectiveness of game.

                  However, I spent a good chunk of my early 20s passing up easy pussy because I was looking for the “One”. I greatly regret doing that. Experience is the great teacher and one should never pass up a chance to learn.

                • The Cominator says:

                  In case he has any money I’ll give him the stripper game tips for autists and nerds with no game and who don’t want to pay expensive full escort prices…

                  If you can’t game women in the wild (in the metoo feminist West anyway) because you lack the dark triadesque traits they are normally attracted to or a profession women fetishize not much is going to help you but contrary to what some information to tell you it is NOT hard to bang strippers (some individual ones might be hard) and while you may not get it for free you can get steady pussy this way MUCH cheaper than a regular escort. She might open up to giving you literal freebies outside of work later too.

                  So how do you do this in detail.

                  1. You need a club with private rooms (or at least semiprivate) avoid ones that don’t have them. Places that don’t are a ripoff for simps.

                  2. The most difficult pain in the ass thing is you need to go there a few times so the girls recognize you. If nobody there has seen you before they’ll be reluctant to do anything because of fear you might be an undercover cop.

                  3. If you go in most of the country (not here in Florida though because nobody wears suits) wear a suit. Strippers generally like guys in suits. In this and a lot of other ways they are more old fashioned than normal women nowadays.

                  4. Talk a little before getting a dance, make her do a couple of little things (spin around for you etc), kino her. Its okay its a strip club. You want her warmed up and used to complying with you before you get a “dance”.

                  5. Do NOT talk about how you pity her being a stripper or that she is too pretty to be doing this etc or anything (white knight shit). Strippers all really fucking hate guys who do this and not in a way that gets you badboy points. You can talk about almost anything else but do not talk about that. Also don’t go where they dance on stage and throw money. You get labeled a sucker.

                  6. When you do get a dance your hands should go to her pussy outside at 1st gradually escalating if she strongly objects next her, if she lets you put a finger in there she is DTF 90% of the time (I’ve only ever had one exception) you have to be bold in escalating beyond this though and you may need to get a few round of dances before she puts out. You want to try to fuck her without getting a champagne room, that is generally a lot more money and the idea is getting steady pussy that is normally out of your league lookwise as cheaply as possible.

                  7. Once you fuck her she’ll never put any resistance up to you doing it in the future during “dances” ever and ideally you won’t be paying much more than regular song charge.

                  8. You might be able to work getting it for truly free (though she is not going to do that for you at work the best you’ll get is if counting dances is up to her maybe she won’t keep very strict track) in the future from this keep in mind though going to this step risks becoming more deeply involved with a girl out of your league lookwise who may be fun to fool around with but who is very difficult to own (your one advantage if you go into this is she probably thoroughly enjoys the sex with you), unless you have Jim’s little monsters in you that you can call on as needed this is dangerous for you in a lot of ways and I don’t advise it. I would advise it for Jim if he decided he wanted to marry a twenty year old stripper… but the nerds most of this is intended for should not try to go here.

                  9. You don’t need to be particularly alpha dangerous or good looking for this to work (except if you want to go full step 8). Not even with really hot ones. A lot of strippers are legit nymphomaniacs and frequently teasing men in private and NOT having it escalate to full sex at least subconsciously frustrates them. It will not work on every girl but it works on far more of them then you would think.

                  Though this may sound sordid to some but if you’re too spergish for game and you want to fuck hotties cheap this works. This will also help prevent you getting oneitis and pedastalizing pussy.

                • Wulfgar Thundercock III says:

                  Com, that sounds fucking depressing and soul crushing. That doesn’t sound like any way for a man to live.

                  Jim, you’re right, but I just can’t bring myself to start fucking around. If that is what it takes to find a woman, then I’ll pass. That’s a grimy life, ploughing my way through a collection of whores, and I don’t care to live like that. I’ll just have to stay an incel.

                • jim says:

                  It is nice to have an obedient wife, to warm one’s bed, to work in the garden, to cook the meals. I just finished eating a meal made of chicken and garden vegetables. It is just no fun without a companion.

                • The Cominator says:

                  Not getting pussy for months or not years at a time as many many guys do in feminists metoo world is way way more depressing than having a hottie regularly available. I’m certainly not depressed with my current girl I just saw her and I feel absolutely fantastic. You probably think its totally cold and transactional all the time… not the case. Girls can fake being happy they can’t fake a genuine afterglow…

                • jim says:

                  Yes, sex is necessary. But someone to cuddle at night, cook your dinner, clean the house, and grow vegetables in the garden is also necessary.

                • alf says:

                  I have personally plowed my way through a collection of whores. I’ve always hated the club. Having a high libido helped, but still hated the club. But hey, I met my woman in a club.

                  And now, years later, cuddling a pretty woman, raising a family, doing all the stuff a family does… I just can’t imagine ever going back to the bachelor life. In my mind, clearly this was what we were supposed to do.

                • jim says:

                  Only option that works.

                  You need to be a bit scary to make it work.

                • Pooch says:

                  I plowed my way through plenty of whores, many of whom defected on me. I also plowed my way through nice girls who would have made good wives who I defected on, using them for fun and experience to gain confidence needed for younger hotter women (then tossing them like garbage when I was able to upgrade). I was the player sitting poolside and enjoying the decline for a bit. I still feel incredibly guilty about this and I can identify with Roosh for unpublishing his game books. I ruined many good fertile years for more than a few women and can’t help but feel ashamed when I think about it.

                  I have a young pretty pleasant GF now who I plan on having many children with but I can not help to lust after younger prettier women then her. Not sure if that lifestyle scarred me or what.

                • The Cominator says:

                  The sin for men is to not keep a nice young virgin (or barely used girl) who wants to stick around. Pumping and dumping a girl who really and truly wants to be your tradwife is not right.

                  The other sin is banging married women (although I would argue you can treat a married stripper masseuse or personal trainer as unowned, and yes there are married women in such jobs, if you marry such a woman and allow her to continue in such a profession what do you expect).

                • jim says:

                  You are purple pilling.

                  The problem is that the virgin heads directly to men who are unlikely to keep her around – or cannot keep her around.

                  Everyone always starts off in defect/defect equilibrium unless you acquire a wife by your dad making arrangements with her dad, and your family is in cooperate/cooperate with her family, which is no longer practical these days.

                  You are not going to score a virgin, except you at least appear to be the guy who will not keep her around.

                • Pooch says:

                  This is accurate. I wouldn’t have scored any of them if it wasn’t for acting the appearance of a player.

                • jim says:

                  Even with a virgin, you are going to start off in defect/defect. It is a lot easier to get to cooperate/cooperate, but there are no virgins who, if they intend to be tradwives, act in a way likely to further that ambition.

                • BaboonTycoon says:

                  >The problem with all the “No sex” variants is that they are license for women to shop forever, that they abandon the task of sustaining cooperation between men and women, abandon the job of establishing peace in the war of the sexes.

                  Perhaps this would be true in a more civilized era, but currently it is functionally the opposite of the truth. Even were your desired standard for relations be in place, jim, the current legal standards regarding rape mean that a woman could still simply shop around by avoiding sex should she so choose.

                  Withholding sex until marriage is perhaps the only actual incentive a Christian woman has to get married in this day and age, and it is the only logically sound, socially acceptable vector by which we can argue for female chastity and all that that necessitates. Furthermore it is also the best current argument we have against extended courtship. Even couples that do get married these days often take several years to make it happen. This model is obviously completely incompatible with the absence of premarital sex.

                  I could go on about other reasons why this teaching has merit both as a matter of practicality and as a good principle regardless of its acceptability (some of the previous comments in this chain being quite illustrative of this, I think), but ultimately, the reality is that it should be beside the point. The actual mechanics of how and when sex occurs are not indicative of how healthy the SMP is. Whether or not sex occurs before marriage and whether or not sex constitutes the act of marriage would be irrelevant in a society where most marriages are arranged. Such a society is my ideal, and if I understand you correctly, it is also your own.

                • jim says:

                  > The current legal standards regarding rape mean that a woman could still simply shop around by avoiding sex should she so choose.

                  If you seem like the kind of guy who gives a tinkers damn about the current legal standards regarding rape, women are going to avoid you like the plague.

                  Including Christian women.

                  “It just happened”

                  The current legal standards regarding rape are a shit test. Women will not hang out with a man who fails that shit tests, nor will ordinary people react to violation of it.

                  Observed female courtship behavior is adaptive in a society where wife raiding is the major mechanism for marriage, which was the ancestral environment during those brief periods of history and social decay where female choice mattered, and will probably be the environment again soon enough.

                • The Cominator says:

                  “The problem is that the virgin heads directly to men who are unlikely to keep her around – or cannot keep her around.”

                  I get that…

                  Younger less experienced girls are of course as attracted to antisocial dark traits as normal women… but they are more flexible about giving a wider spectrum of guys the time of day than slightly older girls. Also not so likely to be woke fanatics. If you do manage to steadily bang a nice girl in this demographic I would argue (even if you are playacting bad) its not really right to pump and dump her. You’re helping to turn a potential good sweet tradwife into a bitter feminist. That is all.

                  Women (at least American women) in their late college years to mid twenties are the worst for not even wanting to look at you unless they think you are a violent demonic criminal type (they also are the most likely to be woke fanatics). If you can pump them you absolutely should dump them. They are mostly irreversibly bad women with bad souls (having generally fully internalized the insane american female hive mind and the woke religion). I know exactly what Wulfar is talking about when he says they have bad souls and they repulse him (the strippers who I increasingly prefer when I want female company are by comparison far better people despite their flaws, none of them are “woke” either).

                • Anonymous says:

                  Jim, didn’t you say before that you “want it all”? I do not see how talk about how to scrounge a couple of used up whores from the temple is having it all. Perhaps you have gazed into certain depths and decided the task ahead is impossible. The early Australian solution then, whores into housewives, is quite a good solution for, and possibly the only solution for genetic survival, IF genetic survival is the only invariant.

                  However, the way I see it, we MUST, by whatever efforts, create bases up to and including half way to Proxima Centauri. This implies that a dark age during which we permanently lose the ability to extract stored energy that needs stored energy to extract is not an acceptable outcome.

                  Something doesn’t make sense here unless you foresee a way to come out of the dark age to go straight into the space age.

                • jim says:

                  I don’t think my current wife is a used up whore. Her N was not that large, and under strong male authority backed by divine authority, she is blossoming into a total trad wife.

                  All women will forcefully resist the trad wife role, All Women Are Like That, but they all love a man who successfully compels them to adopt it, and they all really enjoy being compelled to adopt it.

                  If you are looking for a woman who will spontaneously follow the trad wife role, you are not going to find her, even if you are Amish or Conservative Muslim and got your wife through arrangement between patriarchs – though if you are Amish or Conservative Muslim and obtained your wife through arrangement between patriarchs, the shit tests might be a good deal easier to pass.

                  All women are looking for a man and a tribe that can compel them into the trad wife role, because successful reproduction occurs in social orders where women are compelled into the trad wife role, and their ancestral lizard brain is looking for the ancestral environment of successful reproduction. It is just that burned out whores are looking for, and cannot find, the environment that they need in order to reproduce, which is an environment with a great deal of compulsion.

                • Anonymous says:

                  You are missing my point. But let us presume that your wife is now perfectly trad, while also dropping the perhaps impolite term “used up” from my initial comment, which I would of course only apply to the wives of much lesser men than yourself.

                  To forestall the dark age, a large group of intelligent men need to achieve what you have achieved on a Manhattan project scale. The enemy is not going to let you do that.

                  Many good things, like game, do not scale, partly because the women increase their threshold for acceptable game, but also because the enemy reacts to any attempt at organization by simply banning that which you attempt to organize. Game properly done is not illegal, and women still love it, but teaching game has been illegal since 2014 when Julien Blanc was deported from Australia.

                  So again, unless you have knowledge that I do not, your solution is not an acceptable solution to the main problem we face.

                • jim says:

                  > Game properly done is not illegal, and women still love it

                  Game properly done is absolutely and totally illegal, but such laws are difficult to enforce.

                  In the current environment, not only is marriage 1.0 highly illegal, but book keeping 1.0 and the corporate form 1.0 is also illegal. Which is bringing the western economy to a slow halt. It is why we cannot have nice things, such as chip foundries, nuclear reactors, or fun movies any more.

                  Any solution to any of these problems involves and requires large scale illegality.

                  Large scale illegality requires people doing illegal things to cooperate on a large scale, which is difficult – for that we need decentralized, censorship resistant, and spam resistant social media. Working on it.

                • The Cominator says:

                  Game is mostly indeed illegal.

                  The old PUA standby was gradually escalating KINO, KINO can get you in big trouble in the age of Metoo. Women are now trained to react violently negative to KINO unless its some obvious thug they want to bang already.

                • Anonymous says:

                  @Cominator

                  Bikeshedding. Game is a few orders of magnitude easier than interstellar travel.

                • Pooch says:

                  Yeah Com you underestimate yourself. If you are demonstratebly alpha you don’t get MeToo’d. If you are a blue pilled beta and try to hit on women you get MeToo’d precisely because you aren’t including things like kino.

                • Anonymous says:

                  >Working on it.

                  I have found that a concrete goal unifies purpose. Andrew Anglin is the first person they unpersoned. Therefore I would propose the following goal:

                  Stop the enemy from starving Andrew Anglin to death.

                  This encompasses social media (he can entertain his audience) and payments (his audience can pay him) with the robustness attributes that you have named.

                • jim says:

                  A worthy goal, but not going to save the world.

                  Getting laid, getting wives and kids, is the only way to save the world.

                • Anonymous says:

                  Agree to disagree.

                • Anonymous says:

                  Let me distill my position. I am trying very hard to identify an angle from which to view your position in such a way that does not make you just another greedy fucking kike.

                  “Get laid, get a wife, have kids” is pretty damn close to “have sex incel” and is about as useful.

                • jim says:

                  Is only useless if the incel thinks he cannot have sex, cannot acquire a wife 1.0, despairs, and gives up.

                  But, empirically, you can (illegally) get sex and can (illegally) acquire a wife 1.0. It is just that the information on how to do so, which used to be widely known, has been suppressed.

                  Every single media shows the false life model. For example the Netflix show, “Barbarians” is meticulously historically accurate on the major characters Arminius and Varus, and departs wildly from history on the life of the hot chick major character Thusnelda, spoiling a damned good story from history, in which true story she lived the true life plan for women successfully and with much exciting drama and big historical consequences, replacing the real Thusnelda from history with some badly written totally fictitious damned slut trash whore boringly reprising the false life plan for women with wholly improbable success.

                  If you think that “get laid, get married” is useless advice, you have been watching the false life plan.

                • Anonymous says:

                  Your world view presupposes that you are the king and that I am your subject. That is how you are greedy.

                • Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

                  Where’s the real argument here? Im not seeing anything actually being disagreed with.

                • Anonymous says:

                  Jim says he doesn’t want their leavings, then tells his followers to take their leavings.

                  https://blog.reaction.la/war/where-we-go-from-here/#comment-2696655

                • jim says:

                  Moron

                • Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

                  Specifically:

                  >In the current environment, not only is marriage 1.0 highly illegal, but book keeping 1.0 and the corporate form 1.0 is also illegal. Which is bringing the western economy to a slow halt. It is why we cannot have nice things, such as chip foundries, nuclear reactors, or fun movies any more.

                  >Any solution to any of these problems involves and requires large scale illegality.

                  >Large scale illegality requires people doing illegal things to cooperate on a large scale, which is difficult – for that we need decentralized, censorship resistant, and spam resistant social media.

                  If the question is, ‘is there an anti-fragile social networking system?’, then a simple means to reify the issue would be, ‘does someone like Andrew Anglin (such as Andrew Anglin) have a platform?’. It is not saying ‘i dont share your goal’, but grounding it in a usecase.

                  Likewise, to say that ‘getting laid, getting wives and kids, is the only way to save the world’, is commutatively to say that one of, if not the, chief failure modes of present society is the fact that men *can’t* get wives, kids, and grandkids. It is not saying ‘have sex incel’, but reiterating the ultimate goal of the whole exercise in the first place.

                • Anonymous says:

                  See my comment above.

                  Yes to both of your answers. The use case for Andrew Anglin is the use case for any anti-fragile social media, and get laid, get married, have children is quite obviously necessary for saving the world.

                  What I am looking out for are signs of intention to defect.

                • Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

                  You linked a comment of Jim talking about desire for not just just another cryptocoin, but a substrate for instantiating crypto-corporatism, the same thing he is talking about here.

                  Once again it is not clear what the disagreement is, not explained how any of this connects to anything, so i can only conclude that this has only arisen as an artifact of bad social skills. (Or shilling.)

                • Anonymous says:

                  https://blog.reaction.la/war/where-we-go-from-here/#comment-2696655

                  I want to destroy them and eat their lunch, not get some of their leavings. I want it all.

                  To fill in a few logical leaps, a worthy man who has access to Jim’s superweapon, such as Jim, has no need to worry about getting laid, getting married, and having children, because he will be able to use that superweapon to organize large groups of men to slaughter the enemy and take his women as property. THIS would be having it all.

                  So, if this is the case, then why tell his follower to do something different?

                • jim says:

                  We don’t have that superweapon yet.

                  I don’t want their leavings, I want it all. But going incel is not taking it all, it is not even getting their leavings.

                  To build a society that collectively subdues women, we need individual men that can subdue individual women. Incel is not taking it all, it is abject capitulation and cowardly surrender.

                  Overthrowing this evil and insane social order is a big long term project. And it is not going to get off the ground if we just abandon all hope pending achievement of that goal and quietly die.

                • Anonymous says:

                  You don’t believe that you will be able to get Rhocoin built in time. I don’t believe that. I believe that you can. You should back yourself more, Jim.

                • jim says:

                  I certainly cannot get rhocoin built in time to build a society that supplies large numbers of virgins and forcefully steers them into being tradwives in time to get my dinner cooked tonight. So, to have a tradwife that will grow vegetables in my garden and cook them for tonight’s meal, I had to apply other, less satisfactory, measures.

                • The Scourge Of God says:

                  Moron

                  Or perhaps I am wrong about you entirely.

                • Anonymous says:

                  I certainly cannot get rhocoin built in time to build a society that supplies large numbers of virgins and forcefully steers them into being tradwives in time to get my dinner cooked tonight. So, to have a tradwife that will grow vegetables in my garden and cook them for tonight’s meal, I had to apply other, less satisfactory, measures.

                  Moron.

                • jim says:

                  To build a state religion that will enable everyone, or rather everyone who works hard and plays by the rules, to have marriage 1.0, we will need a priesthood that has been largely successful at marriage 1.0, despite vastly less favorable circumstances.

                  For the state religion to succeed at maintaining cooperation between men and women, it will need a priesthood with demonstrated practical understanding of the nature of women.

                  Paul recommended that the priesthood be recruited from married men who successfully raised well behaved children. This is an obviously sane recommendation. A startup is promoting a new technology, so cannot recruit engineers with a background in that technology, but can recruit engineers with experience and success in related technologies. The priesting role is, or rather should be, related to the dad role.

                • Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

                  The easiest way to accomplish great achievements in life, is to have five sons helping you in doing it – and they can keep doing it even more after your gone.

                • yewotm8 says:

                  Almost all cases of men thinking they are too good for a woman or group of women are pre-emptively looking at them as sour grapes due to fear of rejection. There is a growing sentiment on the internet in male-dominated areas that “you are still manly even if you don’t get laid because women are beneath you”. This is a massive cope.

                  Wulfgar, you are making excuses. You are not as manly as you say if you do not have the desire to bang all of the attractive young sluts you see doing slutty things around you. You are afraid that the women you look down upon might not think you are as great as you do, which would be a massive shock to your ego. Or you have been tainted by too much “trad” thinking and now you are purity-spiralling, much to your own detriment.

                  You need to gain experience with women while you are younger, or you will make basic mistakes when you are older. I have been with dozens of women and there are still always new shit tests that I don’t recognize right away. I also regret not partying/socializing with masculine men as much as I did, as now my core friend group is a bunch of nerds. Which has served me well in business, but I do not think I am adequately prepared personnel wise for the shit hitting the fan. If I’d spent more time with jocks who fucked a new slut every week, and done more of the same myself, I’d be closer to men of that kind who would be more reliable in tougher times.

                • Cementmixer says:

                  “Almost all cases of men thinking they are too good for a woman or group of women are pre-emptively looking at them as sour grapes due to fear of rejection. There is a growing sentiment on the internet in male-dominated areas that “you are still manly even if you don’t get laid because women are “beneath you”. This is a massive cope.”

                  i think this doesn’t address that the decks are unnaturally stacked against men today.

                  Besides of manly player chads whose emotions are deadened from too much pussy, men tend to want other things from women besides of sex and children. the realization that they are unlikely to get such things can be a hard pill to swallow and result in unhealthy contempt for women.

                  life isn’t supposed to be this hard, not even for men. Women are made excessively difficult by how things are and I’d stay its totally understandable if most men don’t know how to cope with it.

                  Learning what makes women tick gives a slight advantage at best cause the real problem is having to change a lifetime of habits which is difficult especially when the society, education system etc is arranged in a way that constantly humiliates and emasculates men in subtle ways. One thing winners suck at is giving advice to losers…

                  and even with knowledge men also tend to need the backing of society to stop women from becoming too hard to deal with.

                  With the world stacked against them, most men will do awkwardly in one way or anohter and its inaccurate to judge them harshly on that basis

                • jim says:

                  Women have always made things hard. Even Mohammed had big troubles.

                  Of course the deck being stacked against men make things a lot harder, but as I am fond of saying, if the protagonist of XXX of Gor had to deal with real slave girls, they would chew him up and spit him out.

                  There is no rest for men. We are always on stage.

                  We know that a healthy social order can guarantee everyone who works hard and plays by the rules an obedient virgin wife, because it has routinely been done – but it cannot make managing that wife easy.

                  Life is not supposed to be this hard. But it is supposed to be hard.

                  The black pill is not going to get you laid. And even less is it going to get you married.

                • jim says:

                  > Learning what makes women tick gives a slight advantage at best

                  Learning what makes women tick gives a gigantic advantage. It is what it is all about.

                  If you think it only gives a slight advantage, it is because you are wrong about what make women tick.

                • polifugue says:

                  Wulf,

                  I believe a different approach to your issue is in order.

                  In the interest of empathy, I would not ask of you to violate your conscience, as a man cannot while retaining his soul. Fornication with whores is evil, a defect-defect society is evil, and most on this blog view it as such.

                  However, you need to meet and seduce a whore to obtain a family, and giving up before you begin is not going to get you anywhere.

                  Premarital sex is not necessarily fornication as the former may lead to marriage. Historically, most marriages outside of the nobility began as such.

                  Knowing them by their fruits, those who tout “no sex” are demonic because they do not practice what they preach. The hypocrites would be aghast at the honor of arranged marriage, and offended at pointing out the evils of western education.

                  The correct line is “flee fornication,” and one should, but that should not discourage a man from taming a whore when no other options exist.

                  A low probability means it is not zero.

                  Evil shall slay the wicked, and if a woman rejects your offer of eternal life with God it is her sin, not yours. If her defection bothers you, cry to God at confession, and God will not hate you for what happens outside of your control.

                  The sacrifices of God are a broken spirit: a broken and a contrite heart, O God, thou will not despise (Psalm 51:17).

                • Pooch says:

                  All women will forcefully resist the trad wife role, All Women Are Like That, but they all love a man who successfully compels them to adopt it, and they all really enjoy being compelled to adopt it.

                  This is a profound observation. Has motivated me to take ownership and marry my woman.

                • Cementmixer says:

                  > > Learning what makes women tick gives a gigantic advantage. It is what it is all about.

                  > > If you think it only gives a slight advantage, it is because you are wrong about what make women tick.”

                  > There is quite a distance between knowing game and being good enough to consistently apply the knowledge for a long time with the same woman.

                  Obviously practice matters, but unless you can understand why things went bad one time and went good another time, practice will just leave you lost and confused. The understanding shines a light on practice.

                  Also, a great deal of game is in fact instinctive, but you have to recognize when ancient instincts are taking charge, and let them run.

                • Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

                  Unless im going crazy, i swear cementmixer’s comment was different (and a pretty good one i felt).

                  Mayhaps a fudge jim?

                • Pooch says:

                  Obviously practice matters, but unless you can understand why things went bad one time and went good another time, practice will just leave you lost and confused. The understanding shines a light on practice.

                  I wasted a lot of time and energy making different variations of the same mistakes because purple pilling on female nature.

                  Even now Jim continues to drop red pills on me like “All women resist the trad wife role”. Jim, This may be worth an entire post by itself. The popular manosphere belief has always been that women naturally yearn for the trad wife role (to an alpha husband of course) but it is the feminist left brainwashing them to put it off until later in life.

                • jim says:

                  > the popular manosphere belief has always been that women naturally yearn for the trad wife role

                  Well they do, but they yearn for the authority that places them in that role, and are going to test that authority hard by resisting.

                  The tradwife role is the ancestral environment of successful reproduction, so of course women yearn – not for it – but for the authority that places them in it, which authority demonstrates its benevolent intentions by firmly placing them in it.

                  In the ancestral environment of successful reproduction, the word husband and the verb husbanding was applied both to a man taking care of his cows and sheep, and man taking care of his women. The difference being that one was husbanded for meat, the other for sons, and from the point of view of natural selection, being husbanded for sons with a cow right beside you being husbanded for milk is a pretty nice ecological niche, and nicer than the niche of the pig on the other side of you being husbanded for pork.

                  If you look at female oriented media that depicts girls doing tradwife stuff, the story does not really focus on the tradwife stuff, but on the extremely powerful authority figure she is serving. It is the female equivalent of the male maid fantasy, rather than a celebration of happily ever after. It is the female maid fantasy. The female insert character is hoping to serve the powerful authority figure in a more intimate fashion, or the reader is hoping that the insert character will be compelled to more intimate service.

                  When you see a tradwife, rather than a maid, depicted, for example “I love Lucy”, she is always getting in trouble with the husband, and the happy ending of the episode is the husband exerts his authority. They are not yearning for the tradwife role. They are yearning for a man who can and will put them in that role.

              • Cloudswrest says:

                “However, I spent a good chunk of my early 20s passing up easy pussy because I was looking for the “One”. I greatly regret doing that. Experience is the great teacher and one should never pass up a chance to learn.”

                Same here!! I did not pursue girls I did not think would be a suitable mate (which was most). If I could go back in time I would have fucked them all.

            • The Cominator says:

              What I don’t know about the story is was he successful or unsuccessful at banging the Asian massage girls before he went crazy and decided to shoot them.

        • Because during last years BLM “summer of love” the Prog hierarchy of sins got finally settled: racism beats sexism. There have been signs of it before, as progs tended to see white women more and more as not victims, but as oppressive Beckys who call the police on poor innocent black men, but last summer it was decided. Now everything has to be white supremacism. Even the Saint Greta church had shut up with their narrative of climate apocalypse during that period. I am stocking up on popcorn for the first “trans culture is too white” and “nonbinarism is too white” articles. And, of course, “climate change activism is too white” ones.

    • suones says:

      The original idea of atheist humanism was to elevate humans from second best after God to The Best.

      I have no idea where this idea originated. Man is the pinnacle of creation, regardless of the existence of a god. “Atheistic humanism” is a SJW-front, that’s all. Remember the original definition of Western contra-Christian Atheism — it is the absence of belief in a supernatural deity, not the positive affirmation of “humanism” or other such leftist garbage.

      I follow the nastika school myself, but being “atheist” doesn’t enable you to ignore ethics, sacraments, society or eugenics — basically atheist =/= retarded.

      Seems to me atheistic humanism has committed suicide.

      Not suicide, but a hotly contested fight, that reached its sparking point in the “Dear Muslimah” letter, where Dawkins sought to attack a wahmen from the Left and got BTFO. It later led to the “Atheism+” movement that really converged it into Marxism. I’ve omitted a lot of details, but I was involved in the periphery of that too lol. I watched it go down. It was what convinced me of the necessity of an Official State Religion. Nastikavad isn’t really suitable for the vast majority of priests, and absolutely unsuitable for animals goyim.

      • jim says:

        > Remember the original definition of Western contra-Christian Atheism — it is the absence of belief in a supernatural deity

        The progressive “arc of history”, and the Marxist “History” are unambiguously supernatural deities.

        The Aryan descended peoples always have a state religion. Trouble is that our current state religion is demonic.

        The faith of Gnon incorporates the red pill, evolutionary psychology, and evolutionary game theory, so no matter how atheist a red piller is, he is going to wind up personifying natural selection as something very like Gnon.

        You cannot do game right unless you believe it is right. And such a belief is rather similar to personifying the Logos, because you are emotionally believing in an authority that makes it right. Christians got there first.

  28. Ace says:

    So what’s the collapse of the American empire going to look like? China looks like they’re just about ready to humiliate the US military.

    • Pooch says:

      The thing is we can still beat them if a General just ignores Cathedral policy and builds combat units of all competent whites.

      • Pooch says:

        White males*

      • Pooch says:

        Maybe this is a way we get lucky and get our Caesar.

      • Dave says:

        I’ll be following the Derek Chauvin trial because white supremacy might be the hill that Liberalism has chosen to die on. This isn’t a war of US vs. China, it’s Liberalism vs. Nature, and Nature always wins. Liberalism says that white supremacy is evil. Nature says that you can have white supremacy or you can have Haiti; there is nothing in between.

        • Ace says:

          >I’ll be following the Derek Chauvin trial because white supremacy might be the hill that Liberalism has chosen to die on.

          It’s the hill they plan to murder whites on. Already there is open talk in the Whitehouse about how 10-15% of the US population(all whites of course) needs to go to achieve utopia. 10-15% will quickly become all whites.

          • jim says:

            There is always a bunch of small armed conflicts brewing on the borders of Russia. One plan is to set them on fire, leading to holy war with Russia.

            Another plan is holy war with China.

            But why do any of those, when America is insufficiently holy?

            We are now in the phase of the left singularity where civil war is likely, though the most developed and coherent project is war with Russia.

            If war with Russia, their Ukrainian muppets attack Donbass, Russia marches into Donbass to protect the Russian minority, similar troubles everywhere, Russia marches everywhere to protect Russian minorities everywhere, then the Cathedral announces no fly etc, to protect the oppressed masses from Russian tyranny.

            But that program seems to be on hold for now, as the sane elements of the deep state realized what was cooking, are rightly horrified, and are firmly stepping on it. They got the stuffing beaten out of them in Libya, no stomach for Libya times ten thousand.

            A similar program in America itself, holy war against America itself, is not yet on the drawing board, but there seems to be a major constituency on the left going for it.

            Something is going to happen. The left cannot stand still. But what that something is is not yet clear.

            • alf says:

              They are currently having a field day with the rona. What comes after that, anyone’s guess…

            • Pooch says:

              Apt to go insane predicting the behavior of the insane. The filibuster seems to be preventing holy war with America from progressing though in my estimation.

            • Ace says:

              If war with Russia, their Ukrainian muppets attack Donbass, Russia marches into Donbass to protect the Russian minority, similar troubles everywhere, Russia marches everywhere to protect Russian minorities everywhere, then the Cathedral announces no fly etc, to protect the oppressed masses from Russian tyranny.

              But that program seems to be on hold for now, as the sane elements of the deep state realized what was cooking, are rightly horrified, and are firmly stepping on it. They got the stuffing beaten out of them in Libya, no stomach for Libya times ten thousand.

              Last I checked the tanks were still moving east in the Ukraine. Where you are getting that they’ve decided against that war?

              • Pooch says:

                Lack of anti-Russia propaganda in the press.

                • Ace says:

                  Great point. I’d seen them ramping up a bit against Russia last week, but checking the headlines they’ve stopped entirely.

          • Dave says:

            When white people die out, liberalism dies with them. Hindus love cows and liberals love niggers, but cows are not Hindus and niggers are not liberals.

            Liberals are presently too busy trying to catch other liberals saying something racist to pay much attention to us; see those two Georgetown law professors who just got fired. This summer, let us once again use our racist mind-rays to enrage their beloved diversity into killing liberals and burning down their homes and businesses.

            • Ace says:

              >Liberals are presently too busy trying to catch other liberals saying something racist to pay much attention to us; see those two Georgetown law professors who just got fired. This summer, let us once again use our racist mind-rays to enrage their beloved diversity into killing liberals and burning down their homes and businesses.

              Is that why they just successfully identified everyone who’s not leftwing enough in the military in preparation for either getting them killed in war Russia or to directly purge them from the military? Some leftists are moving onto playing nigger games, but most are focused on getting rid of the primary threat to their rule.

        • Pooch says:

          They need the filibuster gone so they can pass HR1 and the gun confiscation laws which would carry the legitimate authority of the state. I see them more using the Chauvin trial to launch another round of political violence to pressure the moderate progs like Manchin that keeping the filibuster is “the legacy of white supremacy”.

          The current elites are using “Eliminating White supremacy” as a political means more than an end right now, but as we get closer and closer to leftist singularity, if it’s not halted, they are going to find it really is the end.

    • jim says:

      People seem to be preparing for war in six years or so.

      But as a general rule, when you start preparing for war in X years, a positive feedback loops ensues, and you get a war in considerably less than X years.

      China’s navy and airforce is built around a conflict in the Taiwan Strait and the South China sea.

      The US Navy is built around providing Democratic Party floating vote banks, and the US airforce is not built around anything in particular, being targeted at providing boondoggles in a random collection of diverse congressional districts.

      Most F35s are grounded for no end of reasons.

      Because noticing US technological incapacity is dangerously close to noticing Shaniqua’s technological incapacity, I think the USGov is grossly overestimating its military capability relative to the Chinese.

      The Chinese are in no hurry, because they were coming from behind, and now their lead continues to increase. So they are unlikely to be the first to use deadly force.

      So, it is all up to the US. Will the US decide to “rescue” the Hong Kongers or the Yoghurts?

      The question is, which direction the holiness spiral goes? The Jews are under increasing pressure from the browns, and may decide that a very holy international adventure will take the heat off. Or they could just crumble, and the US goes direct to white genocide, losing interest in what is beyond its land borders at the same time as it loses capacity to act beyond its land borders.

      I would not make a specific prediction, other than that something dramatic will unfold soon enough. The left has total victory, but a shark must swim or die. It is going to need an even more total victory soon enough, and they, and I, are confused about what it will be.

      • Pooch says:

        Everything is on the table at this point.

      • Ace says:

        One of the last things Trump did was order up a new batch of F15s. They’re cost almost to build as much as F35s due to declining technical capability but unlikely the F35 they’re likely to fly and be effective.

        • Pooch says:

          I’m starting to think large scale military conflict is what we need. Trial by fire will leave some high ranking officers no choice but to realize poz is getting them killed, as Starman has suggested, and the need to flat out ignore diversity orders will push them to our side. Plus if they are engaged elsewhere in the world, there’s less focus on grooming them for white genocide.

          • The Cominator says:

            The problem is how bad modern weapons are…

            • Aidan says:

              Wars sometimes went genocidal, literally entire male lines of populous civilizations annihilated, when man still fought with bronze spears. What matters is not the technology but the will to genocide. There is no great difference between ordering a nuclear strike and telling your soldiers “save alive nothing that breathes”.

              But total genocide is rare in history. To estimate whether or not a war with China would go genocidal or not is to evaluate men, not weapons.

              • jim says:

                > But total genocide is rare in history.

                It is complicated.

                Fast genocides are indeed rare, but slower genocides are as common as mushrooms after rain, and fast genocides usually occur within the social context of slow genocides, a mopping up operation by Group A against a tough subgroup of Group B.

                The usual mechanism of genocide is slower. Group A leaves Group B with no capability for collective defense against predation, does not restrain members of group A from predation against members of Group B, fails to protect the personal individual property rights of members of group A to own members of group B, and fails to protect those enserfed or enslaved members of Group B from predation by members of group A. If males of group A have concubines of group B, it is open season on those concubines, so the patron of that concubine is disinclined to protect her children.

                Group B then disappears, fairly rapidly, but not in the style of “leave nothing alive that breathes”. Takes a few generations.

                Often it is not exactly warfare. Rather, social decay leaves members of group B with no mechanism for collective defense, Group A retains its mechanism of collective defense, but declines to allow members of Group B to come under its protection, even as serfs, slaves, or concubines.

                To properly incorporate the women of group B, you have to allow a man of Group A to kill another man of Group A if that other man is improperly hanging out with his concubine of Group B.

                One possible future is agorist anarcho-capitalism/corporate feudalism, where sovereign corporations whose shares are in sidechains or primary blockchains provide collective defense, while everyone else’s mechanisms for collective defense succumb to social decay.

                Right now whites are denied collective defense, and increasingly it is open season to predate on whites. But no one else has very effective mechanisms of collective defense in place either.

                • onyomi says:

                  Jim, is there a good historical example of the type of genocide you are describing that can be trotted out for normies? I think their only point of reference wrt genocide is the Holocaust, maybe Cambodia, and so they won’t see the similarities if you call what’s going on “genocide,” at least not without a concrete example. I’m not skeptical that you’re right about the type of genocide whites are currently experiencing, nor of its historical prevalence, just wondering if you have an example or two in mind.

                  Re. examples, many, myself included, like to compare the current US hysteria to the Chinese Cultural Revolution, and that may be one of the best points of reference for something like this: https://i.insider.com/5f45c75b89aff80028ab7f0e?width=1136&format=jpeg

                  But this thread makes a good case that maybe we should be making more Stasi comparisons: https://twitter.com/HeywoodFloyd10/status/1373761707500257280?s=20

                  Of course, it was Chinese on Chinese or German on German persecution, primarily, so different from a “genocide.” Maybe only useful as a way of historicizing the leftist holiness spiral aspect, not the genocide aspect. I wonder if there are any historical analogues for a group so willingly and actively participating in its own slow genocide…

                • jim says:

                  The closest to home example is the eradication of the Britons by the Angles and Saxons.

                  Over much of Britain, not even the place names survived, indicating that there was zero assimilation of the defeated population.

                • onyomi says:

                  Thanks. A little old, but still seems a pretty evocative one. Many Irish seem to have embraced a fair bit of “oppressed” consciousness vis-a-vis the British, but now they are probably being encouraged to re-identify as white oppressors vis-a-vis the people being brought to replace them/ensure they hate themselves like other white people.

                  I hate the notion of being a victim, but maybe cultivating “victim” consciousness among whites is the way to go, on some level? Arguably the biggest mistake/vulnerability of the current globohomo approach is that, by encouraging collective white guilt/self-loathing, do they not also run the risk of cultivating a new collective white identity for non-self-destructive purposes? Or maybe that already existed around the turn of the (20th) century and would have existed in an era of globalism anyway?

                  Anyway, my argument to people re. “white identity” is “your identity as a ‘white person’ may seem inconsequential relative to your identity as an Italian, a Chicagoan, a gamer, or whatever, but that’s not how today’s pop culture sees it.” I wonder if even Jews can be eventually won over, as I don’t see an ascendant BIPOC coalition viewing them as different from the white oppressors.

                  Ultimately, oppression narratives and grievances may be a necessary precondition for giving people the backbone to fight back? Found Ryan Faulk’s take on this issue pretty good:
                  https://thealternativehypothesis.org/index.php/2017/02/14/deepskepticism/

                • Ace says:

                  >Yes I have done all that and regularly do all that. With violence, I was thinking more along the lines of causing serious bodily harm.

                  Even men who beat women pull their punches. Causing serious bodily harm to a women isn’t useful when it comes to the mating game.

              • eternal anglo says:

                I don’t know if Jim is going to allow this in his comment section but I want to contact you Aidan, could you shoot me an email at eanglo@protonmail.com ? I have a business proposition.

                • jim says:

                  Other people can leak their emails all they want.

                  It is just that I should not leak their emails.

                  For truly secure communication I recommend Bitmessage.

                  When used with a strong passphrase, it is a very minimal implementation of a social network over a very crude approximation to a BIP39 wallet, operating over a very crude approximation to a blockchain that throws away and erases all data older than two days.

                  A social network that you can durably publish stuff over, like a blog, will need to support both crypto currency and messaging, and a crypto currency where you can perform transactions without leaking metadata about the transactions over a name system owned by your enemies needs a social net.

                • Jsd says:

                  FYI protonmail is not trustworthy
                  https://privacy-watchdog.io/truth-about-protonmail/

                • jim says:

                  As protonmail correctly points out, all the commercial secure services suffer the same flaw. Protonmail knows your IP, (and goes to disturbing lengths to discover your IP when you conceal it) and can potentially decrypt your emails, even though they pinkie swear they will not.

                  I might add that Jitsi is considerably less flawed, but it is only considerably less flawed if you set up your own Jitsi meet server.

                  However, bitmessage is open source and peer to peer, and subject to none of these flaws.

                  Needs work to be a fully useful social net, but it supports mailing lists, which is most of the way there, except one needs public mailing lists to act as an entry ground to private mailing lists.

                  Bitmessage is mighty crude compared to what I have imagined, and largely designed, but mighty sophisticated compared with what I have actually implemented so far.

                  We need to support an immutable past, for the great threat to our society is that history (including financial transaction history) gets radically rewritten at short intervals, the rewrites are getting more radical, and the intervals getting shorter. Bitmessage’s rather short time limit is inherent in its design.

                • Feanor says:

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                  Aidan,
                  Would like to make clear, as I used to use a similarly named identity on Twitter, that this is not me. Hopefully the coincidence of name is just that, asnd not someone actually (trying (albeit poorly) to imitate me, as I can think of at least one person who might want to do harm to you, and knows about my older identity but not my newer one. Hopefully you haven’t already done anything foolish on the assumption that this person was me.

                  This message is signed with the GPG key I gave you before leaving Twitter.
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          • jim says:

            They will manage the war to murder the white people that form the backbone of the army.

            War between the west and China is war between two great and ancient civilizations, one rising from darkness, one falling into darkness.

            We should compete, but our conflicts ought not go large scale lethal. If it goes large scale lethal, it is madness, and it is likely to reveal that our nukes no longer work, and have not been working for a considerable time.

          • suones says:

            …will leave some high ranking officers no choice but to realize poz is getting them killed, as Starman has suggested, and the need to flat out ignore diversity orders will push them to our side.

            If only we could show them the error of their ways, they would fly over to our side! #TheEternalBoomer

            • jim says:

              Well, they are seeing the error of their ways.

              Normal outcome of a left singularity, is that as leftism gets ever lefter, ever faster, more and more people see the error of their ways – rather too late.

              • suones says:

                Nonetheless, it is only fit and proper to Cominate them all. Seeing the “error of one’s ways” when the guy ahead is already getting guillotined is simply not good enough. These refugees/prodigal sons/Nazi greengrocers[1], if twice-born, deserve Comination, and even if goyim, at least deserve decimation and enslavement. It is absolute folly to “trust” them any farther than a dog’s leash.

                [1]: Nazi greengrocers — my own coinage, representing Germans who hung the swastika in their shop-window but merrily converted to Communism as soon as the option became available, at least in the East. A surprising number of ex-Gestapo went Stasi.

                • jim says:

                  There are no shortage of positions that do not need a lot of trust.

                • The Cominator says:

                  I can forgive greengrocers in the eastern bloc who converted under very real threat of imminent death…

                  But the progressive greengrocers of today who convert for social reasons or because careercucks… Yes they should recieve no mercy.

                  The Gestapo thing is not surprising kwaps are always mindless drones.

        • Ace says:

          More incel rage. I’ve long recommended Incels try a life of crime instead of wallowing in self pity until they pop. Successful criminals get laid.

          • Pooch says:

            The timing is just too convenient.

          • Pseudo-Chrysostom says:

            Trouble is, who wants to nig up their own neighborhoods?

            You could ‘commute’ for ‘work’ instead – which somewhat attenuates the build up of local ‘street cred’ – and/or be more selective in going after more appropriate targets – which ups the chances of drawing attention from the eye of sauron, always on watch for any outbreaks of civilization to smash back down.

            • Anonymous says:

              Predate on the criminals that predate on the normies. This puts you close to the top of the criminal pecking order while also having the blessing of Gnon.

              • suones says:

                This is a suicidal suggestion. Low caste criminals do not operate with impunity outside the law, they are fully protected by the law, police and courts. Any challenge to their turf from high-caste rivals will be dealt with swiftly and severely.

                It does work, sort of, in US prisons (Aryan Brotherhood and the like), but ceratinly doesn’t work outside. Joining an ethnic mob might be more appropriate for Italians, Irish, Aztecs and other nonwhites.

                • Anonymous says:

                  Then I am already dead. Might as well go for a sheep as a lamb!

              • The Cominator says:

                I fully agree with the dothead here, in practice criminals that are allowed to operate tend to have a great deal of legal protection from those at a higher level.

                You can’t get away with a life of crime without a roof nowadays.

            • Dave says:

              If you’re willing to break the law to get laid, why not just buy some rural land, bury a shipping container on it, kidnap a teen girl, and knock some babies out of her? You’ll eventually get caught and receive forty life terms plus 400 years, but you’ll die happy because you were inseminating prime pussy while millions of incels were jerking off and crying themselves to sleep.

              • The Cominator says:

                As extremely anti feminist as I am I would never want to go Ariel Castro…

              • Ace says:

                There was a incel that did that. He murder a girl’s father and mother with a shotgun and kept a girl hidden in cabin in the woods. No children were produced by the captivity and the girl eventually escaped. As expected she only seems very upset with the boy as it became clear he had to hide her away from his family. Not very alpha despite his initial acts that very much resembled those of an alpha male killer ape that women tend to desire.

                Humans largely require groups to produce children and even a violent initial act wasn’t enough to change the nature of boy who had taken the girl. Such a man would have been better off as part of a criminal gang. The pussy is easier to get and he would either man up, or end up dead or discarded.

                As Jim tells us the telos of humans is cooperation and that includes the act of wife stealing as the Benjaminites and the founders of Rome demonstrated.

          • Pooch says:

            Easier to just lift and learn game. Doing those two things gets you into the top 20% alone. But if you really want to be violent just become a cop. Doing any of the above gets you laid pretty easily.

            • suones says:

              …if you really want to be violent just become a cop.

              That’s what Derek Chauvin possibly thought. Becoming a cop is a soul-crushing endeavour. Dealing with human scum all day every day will quickly bring a man down.

              • The Cominator says:

                This generally includes the other cops. What kind of person would want to be a cathedral enforcer?

                • Pooch says:

                  Well if the alternative is going insane and being a mass shooter from lack of pussy or being a street criminal, I’d say being a cop seems like the better option as the quickest way to pussy to me (assuming one is not aware of game or has no inclination to learn it).

                  Obviously, it is a shitty job (even more so and life-threatening if you have to deal with feral Africans on a daily basis), but cops generally get laid pretty easily because of the violent masculine role they still play in current US society. Same with military in combat roles, at least for now.

          • The Cominator says:

            If you can make any money its easy to fuck strippers (for not all that much money btw if you were to pay retail price for escorts it’d be MUCH more than I pay).

            If I can do it anyone can.

            I think there is some branch of those that glow that targets people and causes them to do this.

            • jim says:

              Sex is better when it is free. Strippers are an improvement over whores, but not a large improvement, and they are a lot harder to game than regular girls. If you are paying them anything at all, you are not successfully gaming them, and thus not improving your game. Same problem as porn and fap.

              • The Cominator says:

                Its VERY hard for most men to occupy the skittles guy nitch long term though.

                Yes Jeremy Meeks can have a long term bang with a recently divorced woman and probably not only get it for free but the woman will probably in various ways pay him but this is VERY hard for most guys to get.

                I’m somewhat successfully gaming her in that I’m getting it at a VERY discounted rate with a lot of genuine enthusiasm. Its certainly better than porn and fap.

                • jim says:

                  > Jeremy Meeks can have a long term bang with a recently divorced woman and probably not only get it for free but the woman will probably in various ways pay him but this is VERY hard for most guys to get.

                  Because Jeremy Meeks is scooping up all of it. Most strippers wind up giving most of their tips to Jeremy Meeks, most recently divorced women wind up giving most of their child support money to Jeremy Meeks or the pool boy.

                  Don’t help fund Jeremy Meeks.

                • Ace says:

                  I’ve successfully seduce a whore before and had her giving it up for free, but trying to own a whore is fucking hard. I had to be pretty brutal with her in bed. We had some very good times together but it was a lot of work.

                  Any sign of weakness was punished and having a girl who’s fucking other men for money is automatically weak. Realistically if I wanted to keep her I would have done something drastic like put a dog collar around her neck and chained her under my kitchen tale until she had only one master. That’s the sort of thing you can do when you’re legally allowed to own women, but not possible without state backing.

                  The reason I recommend banditry to Incels is simple: Banditry is the default behavior for civilization that shit on young men and most Incels are cowardly shits who are afraid of receiving violence. Dealing and receiving violence from others for the first time is a transformational experience for most men today. If anything that’s going to give a young guy balls it’s violence and that violence may well lead to pussy. Or they’ll end up in jail, but either way it’s better than self pity.

                • jim says:

                  > Any sign of weakness was punished and having a girl who’s fucking other men for money is automatically weak.

                  All pimps are cucks, and all whores are looking a man strong enough to stop them from whoring, and cannot find one. It is a shit test.

                  They all would be happier if state and society gave them what they are looking for.

                • Pooch says:

                  I’ve successfully seduce a whore before and had her giving it up for free, but trying to own a whore is fucking hard. I had to be pretty brutal with her in bed. We had some very good times together but it was a lot of work.

                  Any sign of weakness was punished

                  This was my exact experience with the hottest broad I’ve fucked. She was not a stripper, but she was a party girl bar whore with a high notch count.

                  She was very submissive and the sex was truly incredible but she only allowed me to see her on a strict once a week or every other week limit for about a year. Any attempt by me to increase frequency (in an attempt to own her) was severely punished with extended radio silence from her, which behavior she interrupted as weakness and betaness.

                  In hindsight, she likely had me on some sort of rotation of other dudes and you’re exactly right, I would have needed to physically chain her to the bed post to own her (which she would have loved). Brings to mind the ole Snoop Dogg lyric “You can’t make a housewife out of a hoe.”

                • jim says:

                  > Brings to mind the ole Snoop Dogg lyric “You can’t make a housewife out of a hoe.”

                  You can’t make a housewife out of a hoe in our society, but Australia had a horde of hoes dumped on them, and from about 1790 to 1810 had one hundred percent success in turning hoes into housewives, who appear to have totally internalized the respectable middle class values forcibly imposed upon them.

                • jim says:

                  > Any attempt by me to increase frequency (in an attempt to own her) was severely punished with extended radio silence from her, which behavior she interrupted as weakness and betaness.

                  This was a shit test that you kept failing. But she tolerated your failure because she could not find anyone to pass her shit test.

                  Women, all women, All Women Are Like That, want a man who can make them stay faithful, and is backed by his tribe and top alpha in doing so. Whores keep looking for this and not finding it.

                • Pooch says:

                  What was the punishment for hoes who continued to hoe around? Legal beatings by their husbands I presume?

                • jim says:

                  That they might continue to hoe around did not seem to occur to the authorities. They were worried about disobedience and speaking back.

                  Since they backed the husbands in lesser shit test, greater shit tests simply did not happen.

                • Pooch says:

                  I should say former hoes who were now housewives*

                • Pooch says:

                  This was a shit test that you kept failing. But she tolerated your failure because she could not find anyone to pass her shit test.

                  Women, all women, All Women Are Like That, want a man who can make them stay faithful, and is backed by his tribe and top alpha in doing so. Whores keep looking for this and not finding it.

                  Eventually I ran out tries and she went silent on me for good. So for me to have kept her, is it right to assume that nothing short of physical restraint backed by the state would have done the job?

                • jim says:

                  Exactly so.

                • clovis says:

                  “You can’t make a housewife out of a hoe in our society, but Australia had a horde of hoes dumped on them, and from about 1790 to 1810 had one hundred percent success in turning hoes into housewives, who appear to have totally internalized the respectable middle class values forcibly imposed upon them.”

                  Jim: where can I read more about this? Watching a television show about the initial settlement of Australia, and the female convicts are all concubines of the soldiers–although it is not clear if this is required of them.

                • jim says:

                  Neither the Victorians nor the moderns could admit that the authorities in Australia were successfully doing what the Victorians were pretending to do but spectacularly and catastrophically failing at: Promote middle class marriage.

                  So you cannot actually read about this.

                  What you can read about is the line up, and what you can read about is the marriages and children of the early transportees to Australia. The girls all got married, all their marriages worked, and most of them got married mighty fast. There was also a striking absence of prostitution, until the program was stopped, supposedly to protect young women from the evil lusts of the soldiers.

                  So you cannot actually read any of this. You have to infer it from what you can read. That you just cannot find cases of transported women staying single for very long, and you cannot find cases of their marriages failing. And you can also read of some mighty wild behavior by the transported females, and some mighty wild shit tests they gave the authorities.

                  To show that spectacular misconduct, and those wild shit tests, would make a really fun movie, but such a movie would be unthinkably politically incorrect, because it would end with respectability and middle class marriage.

                  No one has put this together as a story. I pick it up in fragments from the original sources – the spectacular initial sexual misconduct, the wild shit tests when the authorities start to crack down, and then the quiet, swift, and massively uniform middle class marriage.

                  I need to collect the fragments from the original sources, and put them together as a story, for no one else has done so.

                  The early history of Australia is too unthinkably politically incorrect to be accurately portrayed in Victorian media, let along current media.

                  What happened is that when the first shipments of women arrived, it was spring break on the shores of port Jackson.

                  Imagine the Taliban in charge of security for Cancun during spring break. The authorities were shocked, confused, dismayed, disoriented, and discombobulated.

                  After some delay, they got their act together, and cracked down hard. Subsequently they continued to crack down hard on arrival. Some shiploads of women got a line up on the dock and married off within hours of arrival. Marriage was theoretically voluntary, but if a woman did not get married, she got assigned – which is to say, became a concubine of a soldier. One soldier. And she was stuck with him, and he was stuck with her.

                  Usually they got married off within a week or so of arrival, but sometimes, often enough, there was line up on the docks immediately upon arrival. A line up of pre-approved suitors would walk down the line up of girls, and place a small gift at the feet of the girl they wanted. If she picked up the gift, married. If she did not pick up any gift, assigned.

                  By and large, most of the time, most of the women, swift shotgun marriage, not concubinage. Concubinage was the backup plan for failure to marry by mutual “consent”.

                  From the Victorian point of view, the reality of what was happening in Australia was unthinkable, because it was a concentrated dose of what was happening in London – that if you don’t crack down on female misconduct you get intolerable levels of female misconduct, which misconduct was more intolerable in Australia because they were getting a concentrated dose of wild females. Spring break in Cancun on the shores of Port Jackson. (Which gets rewritten as mass rape on the shores of Port Jackson, which directly contradicts what the cited sources said and what they colorfully described.)

                  The archetypical scenario leading to a female being deported to Australia w