Christian evangelicals have a one sided love affair with Israel. They love Israel, and Israel hates them.

They misinterpret the Book of Revelations. The Jews have returned to Israel for another chance at redemption, which requires them to come to Jesus. The way the wind blows, they have returned to Israel for another tribulation. If America goes Christian nationalist, then Israel might go Messianic Jew, in which case a less unpleasant prophecy might then be applicable.
A faith is a synthetic tribe. When governments disintegrate, the most cohesive synthetic tribe tribe takes power, which is why in Russia the left minority (the Kadets) took power from the Tsar, a leftist minority of that minority (the socialists) then took power, a leftist minority of that minority (the communists) then took power, and leftist minority of the communists (the Bolsheviks) then took power. You always have an army, and you always have an official faith. In our case, an officially unofficial faith.
Christian Nationalism is right now by far the largest cohesive synthetic tribe, with ten percent of the percent of the population being strong adherents. In the event of a crackup, which looks increasingly likely with Global American Empire falling, we stand a good chance of taking power. Our adversaries will be the woke, who are the current ruling faith, the communists, and the Mohammedans.
Problem is that the most cohesive faction within Christian Nationalism expects to immanentize the eschaton, which is always a disastrous idea. It is becoming very possible that Christian Nationalists will take power in America, as our government is increasingly incohesive, foreshadowing a crackup, and the woke are becoming cynical about wokism, after too many U turns, too quickly. But, though Christian Nationalism is the most cohesive large group, and you need a large group to take power, a large group is too large to rule, and a smaller group within that group is apt to take power, proclaiming itself the executive organ of that larger group., as repeatedly happened during the Russian Revolution.
And a substantial and cohesive faction of Christian nationalists expect and intend to immanentize the eschaton. Which is always a disastrous idea. On the other hand, that faction tends to be passive. They expect Christ to do the heavy lifting.
Until the late nineteenth century, the Book of Revelation was generally not interpreted as Christ making the eschaton immanent. Rather, the prophesied troubles were put in the context of the eschaton. Some of the prophecies have been fulfilled, some have been fulfilled over and over and are likely about to be fulfilled again. It does not mean the eschaton is about to become immanent.
We have to do the heavy lifting.
Rhetorical kill-shot:
https://www.unz.com/isteve/wokeness-as-a-heresy-of-the-nazi-neo-religion/#comment-6227273
Are we placing bets on whether Jack replies? What an absolute routing!
Please explain. Sarcasm is difficult on the internet.
It’s a sight-gag based on Unz’s message board response, so newbies may need a friendly sherpa. Members can flag each other’s comments with a simple agree/disagree/lol/etc. IIRC, each only has a handful per day to give to keep things relatively tidy.
Cousin Jack D is the resident Jew lawyer stereotype. Shamelessly pharisaical; but since he is a fellow son of Adam and a talented one at that, he’s worth reading along with most regulars there. Just don’t feel like you have to read all his posts because he likes to argue via tedious repetition to wear you down.
[*deleted because the Arab Israeli war is none of our business, and I don’t care who wins, or which side behaved worse*]
Islam is a threat, and likely to harm us, but the Global American Empire is more a threat, and is harming us a great deal worse.
In the coming Holy War between us and the child sacrificing demon worshippers running the Global American Empire, the vast majority of Jews are going to be on the wrong side, and a reasonable proportion of the Mohammedans on the right side. We can remember our quarrels with the Mohammedans after the important war has been resolved. Dealing with Islam has waited a thousand years, it can wait a little longer.
If the Arab Israeli war goes big, it will just be another little skirmish in what is likely to be a long and dreadful fall of the Global American Empire. It has been over eighty years since we have seen world war. We are likely to see again bye and bye, and when the dust settles, few will remember what happened in the Arab Israeli war, and chances are that only Arabs, Jews, historians and history fans will discuss its impact on events.
Other than Ukraine and the leftist thugs on the streets,
the homos running the GAE arent currently at active
scale phisycal war killing lots against us. Islam will be
before them, i think. I dont give fuck about the A-E war,
i just say what its doing about what imo is coming first.
Jews suck blood of boy cock, Muslims go to Jannah
where they are serviced by young boys, and do
bucha bazi in afghan etc, and sataners sacrifice kids,
and democrats corrupt and fuckup the nation.
No problem fighting them either, just another bullet
in the coming war which imo is starting in/of mideast.
i didn’t say political world war, i said religious war,
there is a difference. when islam nations and its
sleepers jump in think it will turn religious not political.
people know political war, the don’t know religious
war since the last ones occured well before any of them
were alive. people are just ignorant.
yes you might get to fight the fags in the usa,
but probably only after iran and usa start shit
in hormuz or golan, as a blowback to them for
it starting. now yes you’d be incredibly lucky
to get an overthrow protest succeeding against
bidems and gae fags before the mideast goes hot.
globfags and islam are all satans imo, but one knows
how to use an ak and a knife, the other doesn’t, lol.
Seems we’re about a few days away from the start of a good war, when more than just “Israel†and “Palestineâ€, proper, begin firing away at each other. After about 1400 years of initiating invasion conquest war and slaughter upon everyone being done in the name of the false god Allah. And after the last 25 years of the West wrapping battles in the absurd falsity, niceties, and scam of political contexts. And after the last 85 or so years of it halfass pussyfooting. It seems we may actually be about to admit the truth that this is in fact a religious war, and that it is worth fighting. If so, then this will be the first war I will sign up to fight in. A good honest straight up war for once. Not sure I see much point in staying pacifist at home with the Bible at that point, because I figure eventually Islam will try to kill me, take the wife and daughter, etc. Might as well head off that day as best I can. But if it gets too hot or close I might go back so that I can be the one to defend or send up the home as need be.
The current brother war in the Ukraine, which was created and is run by certain Jews, has killed about four hundred thousand Goyim, and the way the wind blows, there may well be nukes soon enough. What have the Mohammedans been up to?
Mostly killing each other over sand. The Arabs cannot get it together, the Taliban are good guys so far. The only guys who could actually prosecute a serious war are the Iranians, and if it is Iran versus Israel, why should I care? Iran is not going to invade America. They might hog the Middle Eastern oil, but we should be developing our own oil.
The only reason Mohammedans in America are a problem is that the Democrats. in substantial part the same Jews who organized the brother war in the Ukraine, are importing them to live on crime, welfare, and voting Democrat. We don’t need to fight a war with them. That problem is not Mohammedans, but Democrats, and in grossly disproportionate part, Jewish Democrats. Stop crime, turn off welfare, and turn off voting Democrat, and they will take the next boat home. We can worry about recovering the Holy Land, Egypt, and the bits of Eastern Europe they have in century or two. The Indians will need to worry a little sooner than that, but we have bigger problems.
No one seems very pissed by the fact that the Afghans are actually practicing genuine Islam, and if the Afghans were all that pissed by the fact that other people are not, they would start with the nominal Muslims and postmodern Muslims around them. What people are pissed by is the fact that the Taliban are doing something about all water that is running off Afghanistan onto the deltas of their neighbors.
I think this topic could make a useful main post, for reference purposes
>the homos running the GAE arent currently at active
scale phisycal war killing lots against us.
You have no children, and if you are over 50 you have no grandchildren.
You and yours are dropping like flies. Heresy is more deadly than any sword.
could not be a moment like the assassination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand
Which nobody know or care about but resulted in WWI.
histery show it usually the “insignificant” moment like killing an irrelevant nobility by some even more irrelevant group result in the biggest war.
If you bet where the spark that result in WW3 ?
The obvious one are Ukraine or Taiwan?
Master John Wright delivers a splendid essay on the Book of Job:
https://www.scifiwright.com/2023/10/ye-have-not-spoken-rightly-of-the-lord/
Some time ago here, there was a good digression into this portion of The Holy Bible.
Teddy Spaghetti talking about glowing shills in his latest blog post.
https://voxday.net/2023/10/27/glowy-mcglowerson/
saw the descriptor “jimian” used a couple times on twitter, seems the, shill cant see the black through the shoe shine, test is spreading.
I told you there was no way the Israelis wouldn’t go in:
https://www.cnn.com/middleeast/live-news/israel-hamas-war-gaza-news-10-28-23/index.html
Of course, the fact that they simultaneously turned the water back on shows that the GAE still has them by the balls, and that this will be another fundamentally unserious half-war. Still, we are likely to see if that estimate of Hezbollah having 150k rockets in their arsenal is true soon enough. Should be interesting to watch.
Perhaps
“Multiple stages”. Stage one may be inaction disguised as action.
Want to take the bet I proposed? 3mBTC
Immediately before this first stage, in the twenty four hour before this first stage, the GAE was issuing threats against Iran with the explicit and stated intent to stop them from intervening.
It is unlikely to be obvious for quite a while whether this has worked, but the Global American Empire is out of weapons for a long and terrible war of attrition, and people in the middle east have noticed.
Not on these terms, no:
This is unacceptable because this is exactly what I expect to happen, because GAE will yank on Israel’s leash (has obviously been doing so already) and prevent it from the all-out biblical measures necessary to secure final victory in Gaza. Therefore, I expect they will blunder around for a few months, getting chipped away at in a war of attrition in Gaza, all the while fighting a running artillery duel with Hezbollah that depopulates much of southern Lebanon and northern Israel. I believe Iran’s intervention will be limited to training, weapons, money, and some IRGC handlers. I think the ultimate result will be the usual bloody but ultimately irrelevant exchange that does nothing to change the overall strategic situation. Israel will declare victory because it killed some arbitrary number of Hamas fighters (who will quickly be replaced from the local population) and Hamas will declare victory because it still exists and controls Gaza.
You were also arguing that Israel would crush Hamas, or attempt to do so, and are now arguing that they will not attempt to do so.
The question we were arguing over was whether Iran could or would intervene.
Declaring victory before Iran can ramp up to major war of attrition could well be the Global American Empire wanting to keep a frozen war in its pocket where it owns and funds both sides.
But it could also be the Global American Empire ducking a war with Iran. In the last twenty four hours Biden and the rest have been talking war with Iran, a one eighty on their previous accommodationist policy, and over the past few days, the shills have been talking Islamic Jihad, a one eighty on their previous position that there is no such thing, and no one thinks about it or talks about it.
Obviously Hezbollah is not going to intervene until Israeli troops are tied down in Gaza, and Iran is not going to intervene until Israeli troops are tied down with Hezbollah.
So the question we were originally arguing over gets put to the test when and if the war escalates. That the shills did a one eighty a few days ago suggests that they are serious about attempting to crush Hamas, though I, and now you, suspect that they will wimp out.
I argued, and still argue, that the Israelis would go into Gaza, and that the GAE would stop them from winning:
I also argued that Iran would not intervene with a massive, conventional military attack, sending hundreds of thousands of its own troops to go and attack Israel. One reason I gave is that such would be unnecessary:
But also that it would be logistically impossible and ridiculously easy to intercept from a very safe distance via missile fire. I maintain these positions exactly as I said before. My projected outcome, as you can clearly see, has not changed from the beginning. A good many Hamas and Hezbollah fighters, along with Israeli soldiers, are dead men walking, but none of the above entities are in real danger of ceasing to exist in the imminent future.
Nuts.
Russian capability to do that sort of thing is vastly better than Global American Empire capability. Russia cannot accomplish it in the Ukraine, so the Global American Empire could not accomplish it in the Middle East.
As for logistically impossible: Paved roads, gas stations, and truck stops the whole way. The only obstacle is international borders, and they have buddies on all the borders. They have already moved some troops to the Syria/Israel border, and will likely soon move a whole lot more. Not only is it logistically possible, it has started already, and the Global American Empire has already issued threats in response to this Iranian action.
I have a policy of ignoring the day to day news as a circus and distraction, a theater created to deceive, but I was unable to avoid hearing the Global American Empire indirectly referencing Iranian troop movements when issuing threats against Iran, and looked it up. Right now, today, Iranian troops are digging in on the Israeli border, preparatory to a Ukrainian style war of attrition. If we had taken a bet on that, you would have lost the bet yesterday.
The only issue that remains in doubt is how many troops, how much equipment, how much digging, and whether war of attrition will be activated.
Putin has issued a threat that implies he might support the sea route via Russia, but who knows if he will – or even if war of attrition by Iran will be activated.
Are you talking about the Syrian militia forces? I mentioned that as well:
If you are referring to a full-scale deployment of tens of thousands of troops straight from Iran, I should like to see your sources.
Does anyone believe these guys are from Iraq and Syria? Likely they have been stationed in Iraq and Syria for a while. But a whole lot of these militias in Syria have long had a strange propensity for speaking Persian. In the context of the threats being uttered by Biden, his spokescreatures, and the usual shills and entryists, does not sound like they believe they are from Syria and Iraq, except in the sense of redeployment.
Deploying local Arab Shias with plenty of experience in vicious sectarian civil wars, plus Persian overseers to keep them appropriately tard-wrangled, is both way cheaper and more convenient than sending actual Iranian army units in. So, yeah, I believe that they’re mostly just Shia militia from Syria and Iraq. Same basic idea as Hezbollah – let the Arabs take the brunt of the fighting.
Arabs are useless, and everyone knows it, including Arabs. Iran has been directly intervening all over the place, and everyone knows it.
Black Africans make vaguely passable soldiers when whipped into shape by White officers, the history of colonial armies proves that. Say what you will about the Arabs, they aren’t quite as useless and retarded as the Africans. Insert Persian officers to keep them more or less in lune and they’d be suitable enough cannon fodder.
Racism *IS* Beautiful !!!
There is a reason God created many different tribes,
that God awarded them all special, different, and unique covenants,
that God provided them with his separate chosen lands for them.
In part because they are His beautiful children, unique as he wanted
and instantiated them to be, not to be and become each other’s children.
God knows the importance of cultural ethnic racial and religious purity.
Going against God’s demonstrated will on this,
via the nonsense of Wokeism, forced mass mashup, etc,
is sending you into a hellish ruin.
It’s time that the world embrace Racism again,
and move back to where you came from,
and stop migrating to take over other peoples,
and stop muddying other peoples out with your bullshit diversity,
and start embracing and building your own kind again !!!
Racism is beautiful thing to behold.
[*deleted because not allowing any posts from the Christian frame unless the poster can give the affirmation*]
I have received a storm of shill posts from people purporting to be Christian, who are obvious gay, Jewish, demon worshippers, or gay Jewish demon worshippers.
Your comment did not obviously and blatantly glow in the dark, unlike most of them, which is why I did not silently delete it the way I have silently deleted so many others, but take the Christian shill test anyway.
I affirm that Jesus Christ is Lord, born in Bethlehem, died at Jerusalem, and is, is from before the beginning of the world. Fully God and fully man. God is three and God is one.
Can you affirm that in those words, or your own words of similar meaning, or in the words of the creeds from which the short affirmation was lifted?
[*deleted because not allowing any posts from the Christian frame unless the poster can give the affirmation*]
[*Your comment is awaiting moderation: Please take the shill test and get white listed.
Anyone can pass the shill test described in the moderation policy and get white listed.
Commenters who have not passed the shill test may have their comments silently and arbitrarily deleted or unkindly edited. This is a preview; your comment will be visible after you have taken the shill test and, because your comment purported to come from a Christian perspective, affirm that Christ is King, born in Bethlehem, died at Jerusalem, and is, is from before the beginning of the world. Through him all things were created. Fully God and fully man. God is three and God is one.*]
[*your comment was deleted because you claimed to be more Christian than whomever it is that you were responding to.
I am sick of gays, Jews, demon worshippers, and gay Jewish demon worshippers telling Christians what Christianity is.
If you want such comments to get through, first affirm that Christ is King, born in Bethlehem, died at Jerusalem, and is, is from before the beginning of the world. Through him all things were created. Fully God and fully man. God is three and God is one.
And pass the shill test described in the moderation policy and get white listed.
Commenters who have not passed the shill test may have their comments unkindly edited or silently and arbitrarily deleted*]
[*A good start. Now give the rest of the affirmation]
The problem with your incomplete affirmation is that a Socinian, a gnostic, or a worshipper of Serpent Christ could give it.
(These holy wars have been going on for millennia, hence the tediously excessive length of the creeds. Gnostics have been around from the beginning, Socinians for centuries, and worship of Serpent Christ for many centuries. The rest of the heretics and post Christians we can ignore, for the moment, though they will probably be back soon enough.)
Your incomplete affirmation shows you are not a gay Jewish demon worshiper. But it fails to show that you are not a gay demon worshipper.