Trump’s twenty eight point peace plan

Peace plan proposals appear in italics. My analysis appears in plaintext.

The peace plan appears to be confused amalgam of two contradictory peace plans: The European and Ukrainian peace plan that Russia accept defeat and humiliation, and the Russian peace plan that the Ukraine gives up the Donbas for a hundred day truce during which it will hold free and fair elections, electing a government that will likely be a peace government willing to give Russia everything it has been asking for since 2014, and if it does not, Russia resumes the war, and either gets a neutral buffer state on its borders, or a howling wilderness, as the case may be.

It seems that Trump, faced with contradictory demands for military victory over Russia, and settling the war by accepting Russian victory, agreed with both of them.

1. Ukraine’s sovereignty will be confirmed.

This contradicts the prohibition of Nazism (point 20), the prohibition of the suppression of the Russian plurality that won the last genuinely free election in Ukraine (also point 20), the prohibition of Nato membership (points 3, 7, and 8), the limitation on the size of Ukraine’s military forces (point 6), and the prohibition of nukes (point 18)

2. A comprehensive, non-aggression agreement will be concluded between Russia, Ukraine and Europe. All ambiguities of the last 30 years will be considered settled.

Huh? And what is that settlement to be?

3. It is expected that Russia will not invade neighbouring countries and NATO will not expand further.

4. A dialogue will be held between Russia and NATO, mediated by the US, to resolve all security issues and create conditions for de-escalation to ensure global security and increase opportunities for cooperation and future economic development.

Huh? This is just the similarly undefined point 2.

5. Ukraine will receive reliable security guarantees.

Huh? Does Nato commit to counter invade if Ukraine invaded? But that would be Nato membership, contradicting points 3, 7, and 8.

6. The size of the Armed Forces of Ukraine will be limited to 600,000 personnel.

Does anyone, even the Ukrainians, know the current size of the Ukrainian armed forces? It looks to me that after having conscripted about one and half million men, they have about three hundred thousand left. Six hundred thousand would give them numbers roughly equal to current Russian forces currently in the Ukraine, and it is obvious that they have far fewer than the Russians. So a limit of six hundred thousand would enable them to rebuild their forces, which is unlikely to be acceptable to Russia, which has applied a lot of blood and treasure towards maiming or killing every military aged male Ukrainian and destroying all Nato military stockpiles.

7. Ukraine agrees to enshrine in its constitution that it will not join NATO, and NATO agrees to include in its statutes a provision that Ukraine will not be admitted in the future.

8. NATO agrees not to station troops in Ukraine.

9. European fighter jets will be stationed in Poland.

Is that perhaps the military guarantee? But that contradicts point three, Nato agrees not to expand further.

10. The US security guarantee will have the following caveats:

The US will receive compensation for the guarantee;
If Ukraine invades Russia, it will lose the guarantee;
If Russia invades Ukraine, in addition to a decisive coordinated military response, all global sanctions will be reinstated, recognition of the new territory and all other benefits of this deal will be revoked;
If Ukraine launches a missile at Moscow or Saint Petersburg without cause, the security guarantee will be deemed invalid.
11. Ukraine is eligible for European Union (EU) membership and will receive short-term preferential access to the EU market while this issue is being considered.

“a decisive coordinated military response” is precisely what did not happen when Russia invaded, and if it did not happen then, when the Ukraine had the largest army in Europe, it is not going to happen now that Ukraine’s army and Nato military resources have been chewed up. Further, the promise of such collective military action is precisely the Nato membership that points 3, 7, and 8 prohibit.

12. A powerful global package of measures will be provided to rebuild Ukraine, including but not limited to:

The creation of a Ukraine Development Fund to invest in fast-growing industries, including technology, data centres and artificial intelligence.
The US will cooperate with Ukraine to jointly rebuild, develop, modernise and operate Ukraine’s gas infrastructure, including pipelines and storage facilities.
Joint efforts to rehabilitate war-affected areas for the restoration, reconstruction and modernisation of cities and residential areas.
Infrastructure development.
Extraction of minerals and natural resources.
The World Bank will develop a special financing package to accelerate these efforts.

Note that the money to build defence lines was largely embezzled, so the reconstruction money is likely to suffer a similar fate.

13. Russia will be reintegrated into the global economy:

The lifting of sanctions will be discussed and agreed upon in stages and on a case-by-case basis.
The US will enter into a long-term economic cooperation agreement for mutual development in the areas of energy, natural resources, infrastructure, artificial intelligence, data centres, rare earth metal extraction projects in the Arctic, and other mutually beneficial corporate opportunities.
Russia will be invited to rejoin the G8.

This seems unlikely to be acceptable to Russia.

If sanctions are continued in part, that means the west has further demands, contradicting point 2, which demands are likely to lead to a resumption of the war, but with Nato weapons stockpiles rebuilt. Russia wants to settle the war, not give the enemy a break to recover.

14. Frozen funds will be used as follows:

$100bn in frozen Russian assets will be invested in US-led efforts to rebuild and invest in Ukraine;
The US will receive 50 percent of the profits from this venture. Europe will add $100bn to increase the amount of investment available for Ukraine’s reconstruction. Frozen European funds will be unfrozen. The remainder of the frozen Russian funds will be invested in a separate US-Russian investment vehicle that will implement joint projects in specific areas. This fund will be aimed at strengthening relations and increasing common interests to create a strong incentive not to return to conflict.

This seems unlikely to be acceptable to Russia.

15. A joint American-Russian working group on security issues will be established to promote and ensure compliance with all provisions of this agreement.

16. Russia will enshrine in law its policy of non-aggression towards Europe and Ukraine.

17. The US and Russia will agree to extend the validity of treaties on the non-proliferation and control of nuclear weapons, including the START I Treaty.

18. Ukraine agrees to be a non-nuclear state in accordance with the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons (NPT).

19. The Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant will be launched under the supervision of the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), and the electricity produced will be distributed equally between Russia and Ukraine, 50:50.

This seems unlikely to be acceptable to Russia. They are winning, why give up anything they now control? Plus the International Atomic Energy Agency is a hostile party, likely to be interpreted as a nuclear threat.

20. Both countries undertake to implement educational programmes in schools and society aimed at promoting understanding and tolerance of different cultures and eliminating racism and prejudice:

Ukraine will adopt EU rules on religious tolerance and the protection of linguistic minorities.
Both countries will agree to abolish all discriminatory measures and guarantee the rights of Ukrainian and Russian media and education.
All Nazi ideology and activities must be rejected and prohibited.

The EU rules do not seem to have been protection for Russians in EU countries adjacent to Russia, any more than they have been protection for whites and males. Just have they have been interpreted to mean that straight males should be liberated from being straight, and Christians should be liberated from being Christian, they have been interpreted to mean that Russians should be liberated from being Russian.

21. Territories:

Crimea, Luhansk and Donetsk will be recognised as de facto Russian, including by the US.
Kherson and Zaporizhia will be frozen along the line of contact, which will mean de facto recognition along the line of contact.
Russia will relinquish other agreed territories it controls outside the five regions.

Ukrainian forces will withdraw from the part of Donetsk oblast that they currently control, and this withdrawal zone will be considered a neutral demilitarised buffer zone, internationally recognised as territory belonging to the Russian Federation. Russian forces will not enter this demilitarised zone.

Russia wants the war ended, not frozen, to be reheated once new armies have been recruited and weapons stockpiles rebuilt.

22. After agreeing on future territorial arrangements, both the Russian Federation and Ukraine undertake not to change these arrangements by force. Any security guarantees will not apply in the event of a breach of this commitment.

This sounds like the Russian peace plan: A new Ukrainian government gets elected, then they agree on new territorial arrangements, for actual, not “de-facto”, boundaries, and if they do not agree, Russia resumes the war on its time table, rather than Europe’s and America’s.

23. Russia will not prevent Ukraine from using the Dnipro River for commercial activities, and agreements will be reached on the free transport of grain across the Black Sea.

This seems to envisage a boundary on the Dnipro, which is unlikely to be acceptable to Russia.

24. A humanitarian committee will be established to resolve outstanding issues:

All remaining prisoners and bodies will be exchanged on an “all for all” basis.
All civilian detainees and hostages will be returned, including children.
A family reunification programme will be implemented.
Measures will be taken to alleviate the suffering of the victims of the conflict.

It is unlikely that Russia will agree to exchange of prisoners on an all for all basis until the conflict is actually settled, not mere “de-facto” boundaries.

25. Ukraine will hold elections in 100 days.

This sounds like the Russian peace plan — except that it fails to specify an election in which a pro Russian and/or pro peace party, similar to that which won the last genuinely free election, can exist without its members, activists, and campaigners being tortured and murdered.

26. All parties involved in this conflict will receive full amnesty for their actions during the war and agree not to make any claims or consider any complaints in the future.

27. This agreement will be legally binding. Its implementation will be monitored and guaranteed by the Peace Council, headed by President Donald J Trump. Sanctions will be imposed for violations.

When one says an agreement is “legally binding”, one normally states a court or jurisdiction that will resolve issues of interpretation. But no such court exists nor can exist for Ultima Ratio Regum. This is language characteristic of a commercial deal — Trump’s field of expertise, not of a peace settlement. It looks like Trump sidelined the diplomats, who are his enemies and who want forever war. America lacks a diplomatic corps capable of doing the primary job of diplomacy — avoiding war. They are all swamp critters. This document shows the lack of their expertise, but what can you do when the experts are all enemies?

The vagueness and gross contradictions of this agreement has to be settled by the parties. There is no court that can subsequently sort things out.

28. Once all parties agree to this memorandum, the ceasefire will take effect immediately after both sides retreat to the agreed points to begin implementation of the agreement.

Huh? “both sides retreat”? Russia’s demand is that the Ukrainians retreat, while they still have a little of their army still around.

51 comments Trump’s twenty eight point peace plan

yewotm8 says:

Surely by this point Putin has told Trump in private that he needs to take care of business at home. That’s the most important thing they can possibly talk about, even more than the Ukraine, because it’s necessary to solve the Ukraine problem.

Using a different email as the one I’ve been using for years was rather guessable.

Yewotm8 says:

I’ve also been thinking for the past few years that I should give the Jews a lot of credit and as a result have been reading Torah and am finding a new path in life via that book ever since.

Bix Nudelmann says:

Thank you for putting this together.

(Let me guess, you had to LOOK for these 28 Points, didn’t you? They weren’t just printed straight-up in the New York Times, were they? And why the fuck NOT, I wonder.)

But also, how does one sign a complicated contract with a bag full of snakes?

“This is retarded, and none of you are serious anyway. We’ll just win instead. It’s faster.” –Vlad

Or rather, is the point that there’s no way for Russia to “win in Ukraine”, ackshully, because doing that will just bait an endless guerilla war with NATO via Poland and the Baltics, that leads to nukes eventually?

This is why I’m all for re-starting nuclear testing, so that we can find out whose nukes actually work. Hopefully the American nukes are duds, while the Russian and/or Chinese ones work, so that the war can be finally over, and everyone will know and agree WHY it’s over.

Gerald says:

> Or rather, is the point that there’s no way for Russia to “win in Ukraine”, ackshully, because doing that will just bait an endless guerilla war with NATO via Poland and the Baltics, that leads to nukes eventually?

Obviously Russia can win in Ukraine, and looks to be on fast track to do so. Zelensky should raise the white flag while he still can. There’s no point messing around with a giant bear infinitely more powerful, in possession of the largest nuclear arsenal, and who is rapidly gaining battlefield victories. But then again, Zelensky is not all that sharp, so he screwed up. Others should not repeat his mistakes.

Mossadnik says:

> Hopefully the American nukes are duds, while the Russian and/or Chinese ones work, so that the war can be finally over, and everyone will know and agree WHY it’s over.

If the American nukes are duds, then it’s obviously much much better to not to test it in a real war.

In broad lines, a responsible king should use whatever tools are at his disposal to signal whether he is looking to cooperate or to defect, and though language/phraseology may sometimes be misleading, ultimately the meaning ought to be conveyed in clear enough terms. The less powerful the king, the more incentive he has to cooperate. Power imbalances are no joke.

Mossadnik says:

>misleading

And/or just plain misunderstood initially. That happens.

SkipRamen says:

Finding out my taxes pay for a 100 acre Somali farm in Maine
https://x.com/Oilfield_Rando/status/1993345008813171094
(comments…)

That moment you realize that Overthrow of the Political Class was never really so Absurd at all, that the meme of not doing so was their PsyOp to keep them in Power over you, that Revolution has in fact been Ordained as the Natural, Proper, and Only way things have ever worked in all of World History, and that it is now, once again, Necessary.

Mossadnik says:

Only the top minds can successfully pull off a Revolution.

And if they are willing, it will be achieved.

Mossadnik says:

>> All ambiguities of the last 30 years will be considered settled.

> Huh?

Generally:

Sometimes it is, supposedly, not entirely clear who the Sovereign is, even to his own subjects. Thus it is necessary to know who the King is, and dispel any ambiguities. NRx advocates Formalism for a reason. As the Final Arbiter or Final Boss, need not be all too cruel, but should possess coercive measures to impose his will on any recalcitrant elements. And sometimes needs to apply those measures, using discretion.

A2 says:

Looks like a bit of US maximalism to be honest. Perhaps Trump thinks Putin is tired of winning?

Mossadnik says:

Trump would have to be utterly delusional to hold any such thoughts. Which happens when one fails to recognize that reality is real. Those who recognize the facts on the ground, the direction where things are going, will surely not afford any US Maximalism.

Mossadnik says:

> 1. Ukraine’s sovereignty will be confirmed.

Not a good start. Client states are fundamentally not sovereign; they always fall under someone’s, usually an Empire’s sphere of influence. Ukraine is not sovereign – it can be aligned with America or with Russia, but certainly not with itself. To believe otherwise is to believe in fairy tales. This needs to be settled once and for all, and hopefully soon will be.

> A dialogue will be held between Russia and NATO

Haven’t really been following this conflict all too closely, to be honest. What is obvious to me is that, should dialog fail to resolve the conflict peacefully, nukes might very well fly, and everyone should want to avoid that. The party that is gradually losing on the battlefield is the one that needs to capitulate; that is the smartest thing to do, generally speaking.

> a limit of six hundred thousand would enable them to rebuild their forces, which is unlikely to be acceptable to Russia, which has applied a lot of blood and treasure towards maiming or killing every military aged male Ukrainian and destroying all Nato military stockpiles.

Makes sense. FAFO, as they say. The more valuable an asset it, the more resources are invested in conquering it, or destroying it. There is always a price to be paid.

>> 7. Ukraine agrees to enshrine in its constitution that it will not join NATO, and NATO agrees to include in its statutes a provision that Ukraine will not be admitted in the future.

>> 8. NATO agrees not to station troops in Ukraine.

>> 9. European fighter jets will be stationed in Poland.

> Is that perhaps the military guarantee? But that contradicts point three, Nato agrees not to expand further.

The best way to maintain and uphold peace is to settle questions of Sovereignty once and for a lifetime. When Sovereignty is disputed, trouble is apt to ensue. Generally speaking, the winning party sets the conditions of settlement.

> “a decisive coordinated military response” is precisely what did not happen when Russia invaded, and if it did not happen then, when the Ukraine had the largest army in Europe, it is not going to happen now that Ukraine’s army and Nato military resources have been chewed up. Further, the promise of such collective military action is precisely the Nato membership that points 3, 7, and 8 prohibit.

If that is indeed the case, that demonstrates that Nato is rather incompetent and untrustworthy. Who’d ever want to be a member of such an organization? Only an irrational fool, like that hubristic egomaniac Zelensky.

> Russia wants the war ended, not frozen, to be reheated once new armies have been recruited and weapons stockpiles rebuilt.

If that is so, Russia is in the right. If Ukraine is rightfully Russia’s, then it should not waver and look to switch allegiances, go rogue, seek independence, and such.

> A new Ukrainian government gets elected, then they agree on new territorial arrangements, for actual, not “de-facto”, boundaries, and if they do not agree, Russia resumes the war on its time table, rather than Europe’s and America’s.

100%.

> This seems to envisage a boundary on the Dnipro, which is unlikely to be acceptable to Russia.

> It is unlikely that Russia will agree to exchange of prisoners on an all for all basis until the conflict is actually settled, not mere “de-facto” boundaries.

Yeah, as my own Russian-speaking grandpa (a very reasonable, moderate man) used to say, when a country doesn’t have clear borders, only trouble is apt to ensue. “This far, and no further” is a good rule everywhere.

> it fails to specify an election in which a pro Russian and/or pro peace party, similar to that which won the last genuinely free election, can exist without its members, activists, and campaigners being tortured and murdered.

That’s a problem. If the Peace Party are the Real Christians, which they are, need to be safe. Currently they are out of power, but presumably one who is familiar with the topic can come up with ways to ensure that they do get in power, and stay there.

> The vagueness and gross contradictions of this agreement has to be settled by the parties. There is no court that can subsequently sort things out.

> Huh? “both sides retreat”? Russia’s demand is that the Ukrainians retreat, while they still have a little of their army still around.

Wherefore Ukraine needs to come to its senses real quick! And sit down with Russia and reach an agreement acceptable to both parties, acknowledging the overwhelming power imbalance involved here.

Mossadnik says:

Adding more commentary here:

>> 2. A comprehensive, non-aggression agreement will be concluded between Russia, Ukraine and Europe. All ambiguities of the last 30 years will be considered settled.

> Huh? And what is that settlement to be?

The party that is apt to be vaporized in nuclear hellfire ought to agree to whatever conditions can prevent that. Certainly, Zelensky’s overwhelming hubris has done nothing but hinder a final, permanent agreement. Ukraine needs to capitulate unconditionally, in my view.

> 3. It is expected that Russia will not invade neighbouring countries and NATO will not expand further.

If Russia is in fact on its way to victory, and looks like it is, then there’s just no symmetry. Russia is the final arbiter here, and Nato has been proven to be retarded niggers, as has long been suspected.

> 4. A dialogue will be held between Russia and NATO, mediated by the US, to resolve all security issues and create conditions for de-escalation to ensure global security and increase opportunities for cooperation and future economic development.

Nah, the US is clearly biased towards Nato. I think the Russia and Ukraine should permanently solve the issue without involving others. That’s what serious countries do.

> 5. Ukraine will receive reliable security guarantees.

If Ukraine is about to be annihilated by Russia, as this blog has long maintained, then the best strategy for Ukraine is to surrender unconditionally to Russia, and become a permanent clinent of Russia.

> 8. NATO agrees not to station troops in Ukraine.

That doesn’t quite sound like unconditional surrender to me. Avoiding nuclear destruction should be top priority, particularly that is to the Ukrainians. Zelensky don’ goof’d.

> 9. European fighter jets will be stationed in Poland.

That is preparation for the very conflict that that needs to be resolved. Nope.

> Note that the money to build defence lines was largely embezzled, so the reconstruction money is likely to suffer a similar fate.

Avoiding nuclear annihilation is still the number one priority, regardless.

> If sanctions are continued in part, that means the west has further demands, contradicting point 2, which demands are likely to lead to a resumption of the war, but with Nato weapons stockpiles rebuilt. Russia wants to settle the war, not give the enemy a break to recover.

100%.

> This seems unlikely to be acceptable to Russia.

> This seems unlikely to be acceptable to Russia. They are winning, why give up anything they now control?

> This seems to envisage a boundary on the Dnipro, which is unlikely to be acceptable to Russia.

> It is unlikely that Russia will agree to exchange of prisoners on an all for all basis until the conflict is actually settled, not mere “de-facto” boundaries.

Generally speaking, any condition that is unacceptable to Russia, will not be accepted. Russia is no paper tiger – it’s a very big bear.

> 20. Both countries undertake to implement educational programmes in schools and society aimed at promoting understanding and tolerance of different cultures and eliminating racism and prejudice:

The winning side, Russia in this case, is under no obligation to conform to the losing side’s (Ukraine’s) demands.

> America lacks a diplomatic corps capable of doing the primary job of diplomacy — avoiding war. They are all swamp critters. This document shows the lack of their expertise, but what can you do when the experts are all enemies?

These critters are utterly incompetent, and always have been, despite whatever capeshit nonsense they tell themselves.

> The vagueness and gross contradictions of this agreement has to be settled by the parties. There is no court that can subsequently sort things out.

Absolutely.

> Huh? “both sides retreat”? Russia’s demand is that the Ukrainians retreat, while they still have a little of their army still around.

Russia is winning here, so its demands are perfectly reasonable in context.

Mossadnik says:

Oh, also:

> The vagueness and gross contradictions of this agreement has to be settled by the parties. There is no court that can subsequently sort things out.

Yes. Generally speaking, when signals are unclear, they are apt to be misinterpreted. As such, if one is e.g. looking to surrender unconditionally, should strive to make that intention abundantly obvious. And it’s a good, Christian thing to turn enemies (or even supposed enemies) into permanent cooperators, especially if those new cooperators’ Power Level can provide distinct advantages and/or crucial assistance.

Contaminated NEET says:

>4. A dialogue will be held between Russia and NATO, mediated by the US, to resolve all security issues
Lol.
>Sign this deal with me. Should we have any disputes or disagreements about it later, don’t worry, I will simply judge them fairly and impartially and decide how to interpret the deal. You will accept my fair and impartial ruling.

Globohomo is so used to being both a player and the referee that it doesn’t even see how ridiculous this is.

jaggard says:

Trump’s “peace” plan is obviously just more CIA propaganda. Of course it makes little to no-sense, contradicting itself at every point.

Also, the US empire, led by trump, is playing the good/bad cop charade. The “good” cop is played by trump who pretends to want “peace” while the european scumbags/puppets/bad cops represent the actual intent and actions of the empire : war.

Jim says:

> Trump’s “peace” plan is obviously just more CIA propaganda.

I think rather it is the result of some elements in the Trump cabinet wanting peace, and some elements not wanting peace, and Trump trying to hold together a coalition that is right now tearing itself apart as a result of the Israel firsters ham fisted efforts to silence criticism.

Israel Firsters crying “Nazi” are no different from Trantifa crying Nazi. It is a death threat against political disagreement. People who make death threats against their political opponents need to be killed.

A large faction of Trump’s coalition is calling for the murder of Tucker, because he has been unkind to Israel over the terrible things Israel has been doing.

I have not been unkind to Israel. In war, one must do terrible things. But I too have been unkind to Jews. I am sure if the people calling for Tucker’s murder read my 2024 Easter pages, starting with Palm Sunday, they would call for my murder also.

Karl says:

The plan doesn’t appear to be drafted with the intention of ending the war or being signed. It is not even a usefull starting point for serious negotiations.

Hence, the plan was drafted for other reasons. Maybe Trump felt the need to do something, provide a news item or placate various members of his coaltion. Do we get new information from the plan?

I think not. We already knew that Trump is leading a difficult coalition and sometime feels the need to be seen as a president who is doing something and achieving something – what that something is, is rather irrelevant; we all know what he needs to do. I can only hope he knows that as well.

Jim says:

> The plan doesn’t appear to be drafted with the intention of ending the war or being signed. It is not even a usefull starting point for serious negotiations.

A group of people is apt to be stupider than any one of them individually.

The proposal for Ukrainian retreat, leading to one hundred day ceasefire and the election of a new Ukrainian government is definitely a Russian proposal, and would end the war. Only a minority ever supported the Maidan regime, and most of those are now dead.

And yet a pile of additional proposals were added in by different people, some of whom, many of whom, just want every Ukrainian dead as much as they want to kill Russians.

Others of whom believe that Russia is suffering zillion casualties every day, and Putin is falling, falling,falling, he has fallen, and therefore America and the Ukraine can dictate terms to Russia, and Russia will just suck it up.

Humungus says:

Too many politicians are getting too many kickbacks from the weapons industry on this war. Words are just words.

Arrest the crooks and the war will end, otherwise, cry havoc..

Neurotoxin says:

The corruption at work here is not the lust for money; it is something much darker. The money aspect is secondary.

Humungus says:

They can take a one way chopper ride too. Care to expand on what other crimes that involve US, Russia and Ukraine that if terminated, would end the war.

Bedding 16 yo hookers will always be here. Poofs of roofs won’t stop it either. Although I have a much better solution to the GQ… Namely, conscript them all into a special military detachment, then launch them at our enemy.

jaggard says:

>A large faction of Trump’s coalition is calling for the murder of Tucker,

Does it even deserve to be called a coalition? I mean, the war party gets all it wants, the America First/Isolationist faction gets nothing.

>I have not been unkind to Israel. In war, one must do terrible things.

Well, don’t complain when you get genocided too.

The Cominator says:

I would say there is now enough evidence to tag Tucker as a bad actor. Its not that he is against Israel its that the The Israel thing is a wedge issue (that on X was talked about largely by foreign hired shills from the Islamic part of the subcontinent) and Tucker is talking about it a lot and people who emphasize wedge issues are generally not to be trusted but taken together with Tucker’s absolutely disastorous influence during early covid when Trump was all set to do the right thing and treat it like the hoax that it was Tucker calls Trump and threatens to go hard against him unless he lockdowns I would argue that Tucker is probably some kind of malignant CIA actor. Fuentes and Tucker are both terrible but when they attacked each other they were absolutely right about each other.

jaggard says:

“I would say there is now enough evidence to tag Tucker as a bad actor”

Well Jim, do you now have enough evidence to tag the mossad/commienator couple as, if not the same jew shill, two very similar jew shills?

Adam says:

There is something childish and juvenile about Tucker. He very much acts like he is protected.

The Putin interview was cool though.

Heather says:

Here’s my plan:[*deleted for not conforming to the moderation policy*]

Jim says:

To unkindly paraphrase your plan. Russia should worshipfully respect international borders so that the US can get away with continuing to massively violate international borders, including Russia’s, and continue to overthrow governments all over the world, possibly including Russia’s with no adverse consequences.

Globohomo has been poking the bear with a stick. If you poke a bear with a stick, does that mean the bear is entitled to eat you? I am sure you can present a fine and rational moral argument that being eaten is excessive, and morally wrong on the part of the bear, but you should not go around poking bears with a stick.

Americans need to understand that Russians are rationally afraid of the Globohomo empire, and therefore apt to do terrible things in order to attain safety. If we want to be safe, we need to make other nuclear armed powers feel safe, rather than pursuing a policy of threat, pressure, and intimidation.

Russia felt threatened because the US has repeatedly color revolutioned foreign governments, often bombing the target country flat in the process. Because Russia has no natural borders, Russia and Russians feel nervous when a hostile foreign power stations nukes on its borders. Russia and Russians would prefer to have neutral buffer states between themselves and an imperial foreign power that has repeatedly declared the intend of getting rid of Russia and liberating Russians from the oppressive Russian identity, whether those border states want to be neutral buffer states or not, and if it cannot make them into neutral buffer states, will make them into a desolate howling wilderness.

Because Russia has no natural borders, and a long history of terrible, bloody, and brutal invasions, Russia and Russians tend to be paranoid, and the Globohomo empire has done a lot to worsen their paranoia. Paranoid nuclear armed great powers are dangerous.

This is reminiscent of the events that led to world war one. Serbia had been making low level war on Austria, not-quite-war against Austria, and murdered the major authority in Austria who opposed making high level war on Serbia. Austria rationally felt it had to deter Serbia from making not-quite-war, by forcing them to choose between war and peace. They felt they had backed down too many times already, and had to settle the matter decisively. Serbia felt the same. Austrians rationally expected Serbians to back down. Serbians rationally concluded that they could not possibly back down.

Similarly, when in 2022 Russia demanded that Globohomo stop this stuff or else, Globohomo figured that Russia was bluffing, because Globohomo had crossed so many Russian red lines with no consequences. Russia was not bluffing, and the more crap the west throws at it, the angrier and more frightened Russia is going to get, the less likely it is to back down, and the more willing Russia is going to get to pay any price necessary in order to destroy its enemies.

Heather says:

[*deleted for not conforming to the moderation policy*] Nobody was going to invade Russia, [*deleted for not conforming to the moderation policy*]

Jim says:

> Nobody was going to invade Russia

America nearly started World War III over Russian nukes in Cuba. Why should Russia not start World War III over US nukes in the Ukraine?

The conquest or destruction of Kaliningrad Oblast is regularly discussed and proposed in the US, as a step towards Moscow, despite, or because, of the presence of nukes in Kaliningrad. The erasure of the Russian language, identity and nationality by unspecified measures keeps being discussed in Europe. It is argued that it is is oppressive, and people need to be liberated from it.

Because of Russian history, it is not hard to spook the Russians, and this sort of talk would spook anyone. Color revolution in the Ukraine, and attempted color revolution in Georgia and Belarus, and more countries than I can shake a stick at would spook anyone.

The attack on Serbia would spook anyone. If borders are so sacred against Russia, why were the borders of Serbia not sacred against the US. If it is unthinkable to invade Russia, why was in thinkable to fund and arm proxies inside Russia, why is attack on Kalingrad a topic of discussion?

dharmicreality says:

Is this a reply by Jim? Why is the comment handle different?

Jim says:

I keep accidentally mangling the handle because using a laptop with an unsatisfactory keyboard.

Oog en Hand says:

Kaliningrad Oblast is Prussia. And I mean Baltic Prussia, not Germanic Prussia.

Jim says:

The residents of Kaliningrad Oblast consider themselves Russian and like it that way.

dave says:

The residents of Konigsberg were genocided by Stalin and replaced by ethnic Russians with the blessing of FDR and Churchill at Yalta.

The Cominator says:

Certainly a tragedy in human terms and certainly the communists were bad but if you start a total ancient antiquity style war of ethnic enslavement and extermination and then you lose you’re likely going to have very bad stuff happen to you.

dave says:

“… if you start a total ancient antiquity style war of ethnic enslavement and extermination and then you lose you’re likely going to have very bad stuff happen to you.”

Hamas/Gaza learning this lesson now. not my fight and not shedding a tear for their “plight”

The Cominator says:

Yeah obviously they can’t live together. It just irritates me when people who say they are unironic Nazis wax moralistic about victor’s justice and victor’s revenge. Hitler was at least intellectually consistent about this in death when he supposedly said that the future belongs to the stronger people of the East.

SkipRamen says:

All Humans are Racist, as is all Life on Earth. So…
Racists? Fuck you, War!
https://x.com/GrageDustin/status/1993101991997059199

Successful Tribes always kept their Women away from other Tribes.
Tribes knew the answer to the WQ long ago, it wasn’t a question for them, it wasn’t a Feminist college course, it was Nature.

Mossadnik says:

It’s not very difficult to convince an anxious hypochondriac kike that he has AIDS, rabies, a brain chip, high blood pressure, etc., so whoever is capable of doing all that is obviously talented, but it’s still shooting fish in a barrel. Anyways, I quit politics forever. Seriously. You’ve demonstrated your power, and I possess no desire or inclination to resist – now or ever. Thanks for the experience, though. I’m sure everyone has had as much fun as I did. And no, not “until next time.” I actually do raise the white flag here, forever.

And for God’s sake (I’m God, obviously. Lol), nuke this blog already.

TheDividualist says:

Moss, you sound like you are getting unhinged from Internet poisoning. Just take a 100 day detox.

A2 says:

It seems this blog broke Mossad.

Neurotoxin says:

This is the most amateurish political document I have ever read.

(Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez’s hilarious environmental plan that mentioned “farting cows” is in the running, but I didn’t read that.)

TheDividualist says:

Jim,

what is contradictory and confusing about a compromise? Diplomacy is like that…

S says:

Because the Russians are winning and the disparity is large enough the Kremlin expects to enforce an unconditional surrender at some point in the future. Also the last 3 agreements the west tore up when it was convient so the Russians will reject any promises that involve them walking on air.

Neurotoxin says:

The problem is not “compromise,” as you know damn well. The problem is that

(1) Most of the document is absurd. As just one example of many: “Both countries undertake to implement educational programmes in schools and society aimed at… eliminating racism.” Ah yes, eliminating “raaaaaaaaacism.” In other words, Russia agrees that its official state religion will be the leftist ideology that wants to exterminate all white people, including Russians.

(2) The entire thing is a set of promises from the international left, a group of people for whom promises mean absolutely nothing.

Cut the crap.

A2 says:

I get the feeling it’s one of the points to be traded away if needed. A la “If we have to remove this hugely important raaacism point, you’ll have to cede Crimea in return.”

This proposal is a classic example of anchoring, so Russia should probably just throw the whole thing out. (Note that previous and long-time Russian anchoring of certain points like denazification and so on seems to have been simply ignored.)

Parki says:

Residents of Kaliningrad will be asked to move voluntarily, if they don’t move voluntarily they will be moved.

Jim says:

It is obvious now that Russia has more shells, more artillery, and more drones. So how about instead Russia asks everyone in Lithuania and Estonia to move, and if they are disinclined to move, Russia moves them?

Also, Russia has nuclear weapons, and some of those weapons are stationed in Kaliningrad, with standing orders to use them if they are going to lose them. Thus attempting to move the residents of Kaliningrad involuntarily is going to lead to Lithuania and Poland being nuked, which solves the problem.

The Cominator says:

Shill or butthurt belter?

CryptoSkidz says:

Crypto is far more important than any blog.
World is filled with blogs, effectively never seen by anyone, and none have ever had any lasting impact.
The right crypto tool will be adopted by millions and have a massive impact.
Quit blogging.
Do crypto.

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